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Perfect Arrangement: New Prices, Infinitely More Matches

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You asked, and we listened. PerfectArrangement.com is rolling out a new set of prices to better accommodate every Sugar Daddy’s needs. Whether you’re just dipping your toes to test the waters, or jumping feet first into Sugar Dating, let our matchmakers help make the most of your Sugar Dating experience. Perfect Arrangement is here for you.

Launched in May of this year, PerfectArrangement is a matchmaking service, specializing in Sugar style relationships. Unlike its sister website, SeekingArrangement, every date is hand-picked by our dating experts for a completely personalized experience. You get the dates you want, when you want.

Sifting through messages, setting up dates time after time can be tiresome. You’re a busy man, so let us take the hassle out of dating. Ambitious? Motivated? Student perhaps? Or a blonde bombshell? Our matchmakers will make it happen, catering to each individual’s needs.

Interested but not convinced? We have a package for you. Our new $500 Sample Package allows you to experience the benefits of PA without the commitment. It includes one match based on your preferences, along with a first date and consultation with your matchmaker. We even make the dinner reservations for you. You just show up!

If you would rather let us take the reigns, our premium package offers a year of unlimited matches and first dates based on your preferences for $15,000. Also included in this package is email and phone support with your matchmaker. This package is perfect for the serial daters, those who have particular tastes, or just like to try different flavors. Below is a complete price list of what Perfect Arrangement has to offer:

Sample Package:
$500
One match based on your preferences with a first date and consultation.

Introductory Package:
$2,000
5 matches with first dates based on your preferences.

Perfect Ten Package:
$4,000
10 matches with first dates based on your preferences.

Premium Package:
$15,000
One year unlimited matches with first dates based on your preferences.
Email & Phone Support
Monday – Friday 9am to 5pm Pacific Standard Time

Mixer Package:
Starting at $20,000
A personalized mixer with 10 girls based on your preferences.

VIP Arrangement Package:
$25,000
One year unlimited matches based on your preferences.
Email & Phone Support
Monday – Friday 9am to 5pm Pacific Standard Time
Complimentary VIP table at all SeekingArrangement events during your membership.

Custom Package:
Beginning at $5,000
A Maker will help design a package to fit your preferences.

If you are a Sugar Baby currently on SeekingArrangement.com, you can use your same login information to create a profile on PerfectArrangement and have potential Sugar Daddy dates waiting in your inbox. If you are serious about Sugar, sign up and you never know, you may just be an excellent match for the perfect Daddy.

We truly appreciate the business of our Sugar Daddies. We know how hard you’ve worked. We know you value your time, much like your success. Spend time dating only the best. Sit back. We’ll do the rest.

How would you describe your ideal match? 

 

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803 Responses to “Perfect Arrangement: New Prices, Infinitely More Matches”

  1. Martha says:

    Does anyone know when this is coming back? And did anyone use this?

  2. dink18 says:

    Who lives in Baltimore,Md (Guys)

  3. Holly says:

    I’m quite new to this and met up with a man last week who was much older than I am. I was a little hesitant at first, but he offered me a lot of money and sent me a picture of the transaction… We stopped in at a bar for a drink at the beginning and I told him how my friend was in a car accident, to which he responded that he would BUY her a new car the next day. I’m not usually naive but he seemed as though he was loaded, and he kept persisting (telling me how he really loves to help people out), so we thought, “Why not?” I am now about 100% certain that he is a money launderer. Should I just drop it and block his number? I’m not really sure what to do…

    • Attica M says:

      too much too soon, very suspicious.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Translation: I’m certain this man is a criminal but I can’t resist the prospect of getting easy cash so I’ll come on a public forum and “ask” for advice. Hopefully someone will tell me what I want to hear and that way when/if things go wrong I won’t have to take responsibility for my actions. After all I received bad advice.

      • Passion_n_Excitement says:

        I love sarcasm. Especially sarcasm that is over the top. Kudos to Jaybird for calling a spade a spade. And Holly. The saying became a saying for a reason. “If it seems to good to be true it probably is”. I will leave you with this. Ask yourself a valid *logical question. “Why is this guy offering so much when he doesn’t even know me”.

  4. Ace of spades says:

    I love your website!!

  5. Sweetlia says:

    Hi, so I made an account there and the site stated that it should be approved within 48 hours…however it has been about a week. Has anyone else had that issue? Or even had success with the site (this is for SDs and SBs)? Thank you!

  6. romanese says:

    coucou tout le monde , nouvelle dans l aventure sugar baby. un tutoriel peut etre? comment ca marche ?

  7. dviud says:

    I seek relationships of mutual agreements that make us both happy ready for anything

  8. FLEURINE says:

    je suis Fleurine jeune belle Black 1.76 et 59 kg souriante élégante , discrète et sans prise de tète

  9. Ell says:

    Posted my question on this blog a coupla days ago thank you guys for the responses. So just updating about the situation: I’ve finally told him this over a text message which I figure out would be the easiest way. And you guys were right, he immediately dismissed it and tell me how that’s not going to happen (giving me fixed allowances) and how to me it is more about money instead. And mentioned if we agreed on an amount he might only see me for a few hours a week only but still providing that amount as agreed is me expecting to see him because I needed the money. It’s probably the most ridiculous reply ever and said it’s mutually beneficial as I got ‘some’ cash off him, dining and drinks. What a loser Fake SD this is.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Thank you for keeping us updated. Sorry what we suspected turned out to be true. In the future discuss the type of arrangement you’re looking for during the messaging stage. Not the allowance amount save that for after the first meet unless he brings it up.

      Everything that happens to us whether good or bad is an opportunity to learn. Keep the lessons you’ve learned in mind for next time but don’t make the next SD pay for what happened with this one.

      • Kore says:

        @Jay Some SDs say from the start that they will provide the allowance but don’t want to talk about it to keep the relationship natural. What then?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Are you asking a real question or is this your idea of sarcasm?

      • Attica M says:

        how can a relationship not be natural even after discussing an allowance? if anything that finally gets it out of the way and on to the fun.

    • Kore says:

      @Ell Some SDs are pretty sensitive about it not being like a transaction. I’m sorry you lost him, but he would’ve continued to get the better end of the deal if you’d let him. It’s good you put an end to this now, before having promised him exclusivity just for dinner and drinks with a tip. I hope you find a better SD!

      • SD says:

        She didn’t lose him Kore, she dumped his ass ! Girl power !

      • SD says:

        Guys want to believe that a hot young girl is with them because of their animal magnetism and savoire faire. Girls who can fake it enough to make him believe it will be most successful .

  10. kiaqtpie says:

    lol I love just reading the comments

  11. Anonymous says:

    The blonde from Ghana is gone now as well. I reported her last night.

  12. Anonymous says:

    Re: 100% of the Pussy…

    The reason pussy has currency is because most men want to fuck four times as many women available to him, and most women want to fuck quarter as many men are available to her. That creates a demand-to-supply imbalance of 16:1.

    The pussy price goes up when man is needy.
    The pussy price goes up when the man is not confident.
    The pussy price goes up when the man is in a hurry.

    Conversely,

    The pussy price goes down when man is not needy.
    The pussy price goes down when the man is confident.
    The pussy price goes down when the man is not in a hurry.

    Money has very little to do with the price of pussy. It sure is nice to have to compensate for the lack of the three factors above.

    If you don’t agree with 16:1 ratio then come up with your own…but it is NOT 1:1…it is much higher than that.

    • I agree with your PPFT (Pussy Price Fluctuation Theory). Not so sure about the ratio.

    • Justme says:

      Bahhahahahh. …disagree due to the fact that every cookie is different. Yes similar but oh never the same. You can experience something like mines but to get mines you have to earn it. My cookie is special because there is only one in the world. It holds the value like a one-of-a kind treasure because it is. That my sweet…is priceless. #changeyourmindset #lesscockyegos #moreclassylady

  13. Anonymous says:

    DTF = Down to Fuck

    DTS = Down to Suck.

    Duh = Duh!!!

  14. Raine-Alexa L. says:

    These comments lol

  15. Anonymous says:

    Re: Screen better.

    If she’s a decent actress and his little head is active, then there’s no way to “screen better”…

    Every man who gets fucked by his woman had thought to himself that “she’s different” and then he had an emotional and financial baseball bat up his ass.

  16. LinkPlease says:

    Can someone link me the URL for Tumblr and where I can see some of what’s going on?

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Just go to Google and search for sugar baby tumblr.com and you get the links to several pages . Tumblr is like a network of blogs it’s not like this one . There hundreds of different blogs on different subjects

    • Attica M says:

      actually tumblr is a great place to see artwork and porn. thats what i use it for.

      also fashion and funny gifs. i dont know why people dont like it, but those that dont are usually pretty old.

  17. Anonymous says:

    Re: Tumblr girls…

    The best way to protect yourself from the Tumblr girls is to remove photos and use an alias too gar removed from your name.

    • Anonymous says:

      *far

    • Anonymous says:

      I agree. The married SD’s here are particularly vulnerable. The princesses over there discuss how to do reverse image searches and how to extract sensitive personal info especially on married SD’s so they can use it to blackmail him. They have all kinds of blacklists over there. The full SA profile is uploaded and they do not blackout your pics. The whole world will now see you as a dirty old man who is married and a cheap pervert. What a scary world the sugar bowl truly is.

    • Anonymous says:

      Well…the Tumblr girls don’t give a shit. For them, the stupider the SD the better.

      • Anonymous says:

        Never let the “little head” do the thinking for your big head. Money is in short supply. Pussy is plentiful. If you succumb to their GPS (Golden Pussy Syndrome), they will break your bank.

  18. Anonymous says:

    After sending her beautiful nude photos she wants to see my manhood…flaccid and hard. Never happened to me. What do I do now?

  19. Anonymous says:

    Just looked at tumblr Jeeze !! What a bunch of lazy ass ,self absorbed Beyotches we are dealing with ! Some of these girls are rude ,crude, and socially unacceptable . But the sad truth is -they own 100% of the Pussy. And they know it .

    • Anonymous says:

      Tumblr is where the rinsers hang out. If you don’t offer 10K/mo or more for a platonic arrangement, you are outed over there as “salty” and your SA profile will be put on blast. They will post your pictures, text messages, and all the info they can get from you. Their “Bible” is a book called Ho tactics. It is a step by step guide on how to milk money from gullible men for nothing in return but the pleasure of their mere existence on earth.

      • Anonymous says:

        Lovely

      • Wow. That’s terrible.

      • Raine-Alexa L. says:

        Damn, where have I been?! Ya’ll should really be careful with some girls, I have a coworker that literally feeds off of married men knowing she can blackmail them. I don’t understand, you’re getting money from this guy and you wanna tell on him?! What a way to block your blessing, lol.

      • GermanGirl90 says:

        What the hell is wrong with some people?? I’m a woman and I’m ashamed of what some of the women on this planet are capable of! Just want to let you know that not all of us are like that – decent women still exist!

      • Anonymous says:

        @GermanGirl

        You seem like a decent girl indeed.

      • GermanGirl90 says:

        Thank you! Good education and having a heart help, I guess 😉 Seems like it’s something to be proud of on SA…

      • Kore says:

        @GermanGirl90 “I’m ashamed of what some of the women on this planet are capable of!”

        Yes, I totally agree!

        “Just want to let you know that not all of us are like that – decent women still exist!”

        And that is exactly one of the reasons I’m on this blog. :)

      • Kore says:

        @GermanGirl90 I wish you’d lived closer! We kind of have a similar history and it’d be good to know some nice people in real life that are involved in sugar.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      “they own 100% of the Pussy”

      For the right price you might be able to get controlling interest LOL

      • Anonymous says:

        That didn’t work out for the Hunt brothers and their attempt to corner the Silver market . I doubt if I will do better. LOL

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Haha no Pussy Thursday for you :-))

      • Jaybird923 says:

        punctuation marks are very important that comment reads totally different than what I intended.

        Haha. No pussy Thursday for you?

      • fuhgeddaboudit says:

        The punctuation didn’t help

      • Jaybird923 says:

        It was a play on words in reference to the Hunt brother thing… Silver Thursday/ pussy Thursday. I guess if you don’t know about it the joke makes no sense. :-)) oh well

    • Anonymous says:

      Like I said, be careful of the girls you contact on SA. A lot of the SA girls are tumblr girls and vice versa. What you say here will be put on blast over there. They can upload videos and pics of you and every message you have sent on SA will be available for the whole world to see. And they all laugh and giggle about it, egg each other on, and high fives all around. So you better be a gazillionaire giving Bentleys and beachfront condos for a platonic relationship or find yourself outed as a fake sugar daddy full of salt.

      • angie says:

        LOL, I do own 100% of the Pussy, and if your an ugly old man, why would i have a platonic relationship with you without that substantial financial support? you are ridiculous. We’ll laugh at you because you think were niave and dumb. Sorry.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Simple solution … don’t contact the girls listed out of your budget range then you don’t have to be worried about being blacklisted.
        You guys are screwing up the system. If no one contact them they’ll either adjust their asking price/ expectations, linger on the market for months hoping someone will give them what they want, or they’ll take themselves off the market.

        There’s nothing wrong with them asking for what they want. The girls that the market deem worthy of their asking price will get it.

      • Anonymous says:

        money still trumps pussy in this world

      • naive is one thing, dumb is yet another

        theyre are some out their who dont no the difference

    • Anonymous says:

      The other bizarre thing about tumblr is unlike SA where the TOS clearly states escorts are NOT allowed, escorting is fully encouraged over there. So the same SB’s who complain about cheap SD’s on SA post proudly about their escorting exploits and how much money they make. They upload pics of hundred dollar bills called “money shot”. There are also lots of undrage girls posting and asking adive on how to be a rinser and sugar ababies. They post tons of naked pics over there. It is the wild wild west of the sugar world.

  20. So, has anyone signed up for PA?

  21. SD says:

    “I’m not looking for money or gifts; ideally, I would love to go to a nice dinner somewhere quiet and have some good conversation. I would also sincerely appreciate some financial advice so that I can be in a position of supporting myself comfortably on my photography work. I would prefer someone no more than 15 years older than me, and there is to be no expectation of kissing or sex.”

    At least this one does not want Money or gifts. Now I can see a platonic relationship with a gal who just wants company and advice . I wouldn’t do it but then I am looking for more.

    • Anonymous says:

      I doubt if she will have any takers. I have a feeling she signed up for the wrong dating site. I think she should be on match.com or eHarmony. It looks like she just wants to hang out with someone from time to time with no money or physical activity involved—like a friend without benefits. Why can’t she find someone like that in real life?

      • Anonymous says:

        She is doing the same thing as teenage boys used to claim to do with Playboy magazine: reading the articles. LOL.

    • Anonymous says:

      platonic relationship is a waste of time, i have male friends for that…and i get paid for financial advice, why would i give that away for free?

    • Anonymous says:

      Best financial advice I can give her is this: Get The Fuck Out Of Photography. There is no money in it. Anyone with a cellphone that has a 15 MP camera in it can take a picture just as well as you do.

      • Anonymous says:

        also give up on the idea that you can get something for free in life. you get what you put out. you dont put out, you dont get

  22. Attica M says:

    how this site doesnt find scammers better is beyond me but i guess it really doesnt concern the owners.

  23. Riviera Undercover says:

    I emailed a 35 year old who is really 43. I googled her number after her WhatsApp photo looked nothing like her SA photo. Well it’s her but several stone heavier and older. Do I reply back or block on SA? I haven’t chatted on WhatsApp…

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      She is in London on SA, Devon on Google, and Australia on LinkedIn. Seriously, you couldn’t make this up…

      • Kore says:

        Block her. I find it crap when people lie about their appearance. It’s a sign of low selfesteem and high maintainance.

    • Elaine says:

      @Riviera

      If shaving off weight and years would be a reason to block, I guess 50% of all profiles should have to be blocked.

      I would let her sweat and ask for a videochat on Skype. :-)
      Most effective way to weed out this crap!

  24. Riviera Undercover says:

    Smushball hasn’t been updated in a week. Anyone know of any alternatives? It’s the only pussy I get :-(

  25. Riviera Undercover says:

    Any guy is welcome to look, 40/80/160 km of any major city in Yorkshire…
    Find me one…

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I have some other SDs that I help screen profiles. I’m pretty good at it. If you’re interested I’ll help you

    • noname says:

      i had a look lots of girls there but the problem is they want a lot more money than your willing to pay looks like you will have to adjust your allowance amount or put up with the crap you have been dealing with good luck in your search

  26. Riviera Undercover says:

    I am close to giving up lol:

    Young dark haired sugar baby looking for fun and excitement

    What I’m looking for:
    Looking for generous sugar daddy/momma to spoil me and treat me well

    Email: I’m just looking to be treated well, preferably a sugar daddy without meeting, just cheeky emails and other forms of contact x

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      Me: I am not seeking a virtual arrangement, are you comfortable with a normal arrangement?

      Her: No sorry just virtual fun

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I’m starting to think you are purposely seeking out these profile for your own entertainment

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        Nope, she was the only non ugly one who had joined within a reasonable radius of where I live…

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        Strange considering her occupation – Full time sugar baby…

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        Maybe I should contact Kel1979, who is “Looking for love”
        and is a 1/10 …

      • Jaybird923 says:

        So everyone in your Area is ugly or want platonic/virtual arrangements? Looks like you’re going to have to 1) lower your standards and find a nice average looking girl. 2) increase your budget to see if you can convert one of the hot girls 3) look for a SB in real life.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        Or the woman that has “Real people only!” whilst google images reverse search thinks she is Kelly Le Brock…

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        Ah it is Kelly Le Brock…

      • Niyaful_ says:

        I do still find that annoying and yet amusing at the same time. There are pictures that you can tell right away that are not actually legitimate. When a simple google search of an image, shows results of clothing catalogs or a or soccer player or actor/model who can’t even speak English. Or some unknown other sort of famous person that can’t be recognized easily.

    • SouthernSB says:

      I’m having something of a virtual arrangement, but I don’t want to. All I’m looking for is someone to see on a regular basis to have a mutual arrangement with where he gets my witty and intelligent banter along with intimacy and I get gifts and an allowance. I’m not looking for some outrageous amount, just enough to supplement my income.

  27. Anonymous says:

    Just had a pleasure of communicating with a Blonde “girl” from Ghana. Promptly reported her. Let’s see how long SA takes to remove him.

  28. Anonymous says:

    During the past week…

    I have been contacted by three cam girls…I reported all of them. Two are gone. One is still up.

    I have been contacted by three strippers…I reported one of them. I should have reported the rest…If I come across them again then I sure will.

    • rembodler says:

      Stripping is legal and is not against SA rules… There isn’t anything obviously wrong with a stripper SB. As soon as she follows thru on SB part of the deal….
      I do not understand, what exactly is the problem?

      • flyR says:

        Despite stories about the virginal college students stripping their way through college most studies show that a high percentage are also engaged in commercial transactions on the side. It substantially increases the probability of their bringing various bugs to the party.

      • rembodler says:

        @flyR
        Judge not lest ye be judged, buddy.
        Some may say, the older you are, the more women you slept with, the more chances are that it is you who are bringing the bugs to the party. And yes, some bugs you can weed out, but not others (like HPV). Having sex is taking the chance. And yes, the stripper might have sampled a few clients. But you probably have 20 years on her, where you sampled what’s between their legs. There are bugs lurking there, my friend. I hope u realize that.

    • Anonymous says:

      The strippers demand upfront money for their “time”. They have no intention of making an arrangement. Strippers are basically rinsers.

      They are worse the hookers…they are trained in skimming money from men…at least a hooker comes with an intention of putting out for the right price.

      • rembodler says:

        That is BS. I had a couple strippers as SBs, and they were no better, but certainly no worse than any other SB having an “average” job or being in college….
        If you let a girl to “rinse” you… I put an onus on you, buddy. Sorry.

      • Anonymous says:

        Sure. Go ahead.

      • Attica M says:

        some people want some sort of down payment when meeting b/c some have gotten nothing at all and time wasted.

        since joining this site i follow a lot of SB blogs on tumblr and i know one personally. there is a lot of trust that needs to be built of course, but neither party wants to be scammed.

        I already have =/

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      I wish they would delete those that request advances to prove you are genuine, they don’t often delete profiles with fake pics.

      Check out karina r in the UK who has a Gucci Bamboo ad as her profile pic…

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        Ah it’s Gal Gadot, the new Wonder Woman…

      • Elaine says:

        @Riviera

        SA is very selective in their “selections”.

        I have a close up from a part of my (OWN) face as profilepic.
        Numerous the times SA deleted it, because they “can’t allow close ups” ….
        WTF?!

  29. Anonymous says:

    The best thing about a lower allowance is that either she is desperate or likes you enough to accept that amount.

    • SB TVC15 says:

      And either way it’s the best, eh?

    • The best part about a platonic, high allowance arrangement is that either he is desperate or likes you enough to give that amount.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Where ever there are the vulnerable and desperate you’ll always find those that prey on them….

    • Anonymous says:

      As someone said, the quality of woman does not go up with allowance requirements. The high allowance only means that she is either greedy or in a jam.

      Pick a “Minimal” girl and increase her living standard. She will appreciate you for it. It will be like charity…of increasing living standard of women.

      • You do realize that there are some situations in which a minimal allowance* (say dinner, cab fare and a bottle of perfume or a “charitable donation” perhaps, will do little for increasing one’s standard of living, right?

        Is this about women you consider to be greedy based on their standard of living, or your own desire to pay the least and get the most?

        I think the qualifier is in what one is ABLE to give versus what one is willing to give in light of what would qualitatively improve one’s standard of living, or in optimizing one’s experience.

        Brings to mind experiences I had over seas where I had the privilege of meeting some of the most humbly generous people Ive ever encountered. There were times when people of the least means would give so generously, considering their means to do so. These were very small yet rich gestures that were graciously appreciated. In terms of monetary value, these werent things that I could really cash in on, but I knew that these people were sharing what they were able. What more can you really ask or expect of a person? There were other times when people of the most means shared generously, quite abundantly actually, considering my means. These were large gifts to me, a comparatively smaller or moderate drop in the bucket for them yet benevolently given and graciously received all the same. In neither situation–despite how “little” or how “much” may have been given–was I treated cheaply**. And of course, comparatively speaking, is the situation where one gives what may be qualified as a moderate and abundant gift considering both parties’ means.

        As it applies here, I think that how allowance is given and received sometimes lies in the intention. Sometimes, a mere matter of practicality. As it may pertain to a SB’s individual standard of reasonable living, this may or may not be an arrangement that is feasible. It doesnt make her greedy, though Im not dismissing that there are cases where greed applies.

        It is one thing if a guy with say a $60k, $80k, $100k, $120k income or whatever was to say, “Im not a rich man+, but I enjoy and appreciate you, and want to share what I can.”

        That I can respect. What you spout throughout the blog reads more like blatant exploitation.

        No one is saying that one should compromise his own financial stability. To deliberately seek to pay minimal allowances to, and maximize your benefit from those you consider desperate (while denying them what would be considered a mutually beneficial arrangement), merely because you can, is vulturous++. No less so than women who prey upon men with the same opportunistic, malevolent intentions++.

        Am not quite sure why, for some people here (both SBs and SDs), sugar has to carry such an air of cheap sleaze and disregard.

        *I know that you mentioned practical as well, but I feel comfortable inferring that you only consider girls in that range with intentions of haggling them down to the minimal obscurity of a shilling, or at least collecting their nude photos.

        **You can give/get a higher allowance and still treat/be treated cheaply.

        +This is not to say that because one is rich, he is more giving nor that a SB is entitled to substantially higher allowance simply because he has it to give.

        ++In neither case is this to remove the vulnerable from the responsibility of safeguarding themselves.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @YGTBKM well said

  30. Anonymous says:

    @Kore

    Prostitution is legal and generates $18 billion in Germany. Do you know any/many prostitutes?

  31. rembodler says:

    I used to talk to women of the type “Substantial – Platonic”, just to see what is in their head.
    Until I finally realized that it is nothing that is in their head.
    Now, if I get messaged by someone like that, I politely decline.
    At best, she will offer to take her panties off on the webcam…Holly Molly.

    • Anonymous says:

      I now prefer talking to Minimal…and interestingly more and more Minimal are popping up at SA.

    • Anonymous says:

      I do not talk to anyone above practical, it doesn’t make sense to me that a college student needs more than 4k a month, so the rest are just greedy

    • Anonymous says:

      Most of the women with substantial and high expectations have pretty weak profiles. Mostly one sentence only. And they only say what they want (all about me, me, me) and never what they offer to the arrangement. IMO, the actual allowance can really only be determined after meeting in person. Asking an X amount of dollars on paper is pretty worthless.

  32. flyR says:

    PA is sort of like giving a pimp $20K for introducing you to someone who might have sex with her.

  33. Riviera Undercover says:

    Well this weekend was interesting, one woman wanted 2500.00 GBP just to meet for lunch, seriously. Another needed 9K for her Masters, but wanted 4.5 or literally anything. She kept on about the 9K. The usual emotional blackmail or scam. I went as high as 2K pro rata then I got blocked on WhatsApp …

    • Anonymous says:

      I think a reevaluation of the women you choose to talk with is sorely needed. seems you love wasting your time on self entitled women

      • IHF2030 says:

        I would say that most women on this site are self-entitled, and delusional, so it is hard to avoid them.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        One of them actually was mentioned below:

        Option 1 :
        Meet at a hotel or somewhere secure at least every two weeks. Would loved to be pampered. I’m up for anything. Message me x

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Of course in this case she’s the problem not the guy that sees she’s asking for 9k when he’s only can/willing to offer 2k. Why bother contacting her in the first place if she was asking for 3 or 4K I’d say try your luck there might be room to negotiate down but contact someone who’s listed at more than 4 times what you’re offering is a waste of not only their time but yours as well.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        Her profile was option 1 above. She has amended her profile recently: I’m fun, ambitious, always up for a laugh. Need to fund my education. Message me for pics xx

        The email conversation was “My fees are £9000, but I’ll settle for half. I’d be grateful for any amount to be honest, I’ll work for the rest. I just need to make half in two weeks, so that I won’t be withdrawn from my masters”

        Maybe I took the “grateful for any amount to be honest” too literally…

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Most likey she thought that by asking for 9k but saying she need half Men would think they were getting a bargain and jump at the chance to give her 4.5K

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        If you gave her 4.5K, I don’t think you would see her again. I am not even sure if I believe her story now. It’s like the girls about to be evicted but can’t see you because of the stress they are under. Next…

    • Anonymous says:

      Women here are just fine…no better or worse than the cross-section of women you meet elsewhere.

      If and when SA stopped giving them stupid ideas about money for nothing…then more and more arrangements will actually start happening.

      • Anonymous says:

        IDK-Not too many women would ask for money to sleep with a guy . The SB/escort pool is probably less than 10 % of the female population

    • Kore says:

      @Riviera 4.5K for how many meets? The UK is expensive, but .. ??

    • flyR says:

      The only people I know who want $2,500 for lunch are politicians and they are in fact master practitioners of the worlds oldest profession.

    • Anonymous says:

      I met a lovely recent college grad asian woman for coffee a few months ago, and she told me that she was looking for $1000 / date, which would be platonic dates to start. I gave her the polite word that such is totally unrealistic . . . and for some reason she hasn’t logged into her profile here for weeks and weeks now. Gee, maybe I was right. (Too bad, she was cute. Fortunately, this city is FULL of cute asian college cuties. Some put out; many don’t.)

  34. Sarah_Rose says:

    What the heck?! That seems like a stupid ridiculous amount of money to pay for an online “dating” site. The men I’ve worked with seem far too intelligent with their money to be blowing it on something like this; which is why I’d assume they are well off anyway. Good luck PA.
    And I agree…where’s the SB benefit if it already costed $500 for one date you didn’t even pick? Weird.

    • Anonymous says:

      PA is an unnecessary service, which is touted as a “solution” to the problem SA proactively creates, that is, egging women on unnecessarily so the arrangements don’t happen as often as they can right here.

      • Sarah_Rose says:

        Glad I wasn’t the only one who thought this! I read more of the responses after I posted. I haven’t had any issues on SA. Love it actually. Though, I’m not an “entitled princess” either, lol. Always feel like I don’t do enough for my SDs.

    • Jose says:

      @Sarah Rose
      Your attitude will most likely bring you success in the sugar bowl. The general consensus here agrees with you that PerfectArrangement will remain a fledgling concept, never to grow wings and soar into the heavens.

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      Self-promotion, or mere coincidence that you post for the first time on the day that the newest episode of the reality series in which you are competing airs?

    • Anonymous says:

      @Sarsh_Rose has posted before in previous threads.

      • Fair enough.

        So, coincidence?

      • Anonymous says:

        I have no clue what you are talking about. I know that you are going to go on and on with your riddles, so it is useless to ask what exactly you are referring to.

      • k

        Thanks for sharing. You could try reading, but that might be asking too much.

      • Anonymous says:

        As expected…your riddles are oft-tiring. You could’ve said “read her profile” but that would be too productive use of 1s and 0s and you wouldn’t have any of that.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        We had access to the same information. I apologize that you spent two hours trying to figure out how I pulled such a padlocked riddle out of my whore ass. I should’ve been more giving. But alas, you worked out the kinks, Naughty-Naughty Anaughtymous.

  35. Anonymous says:

    so wait so, guys are paying the site to meet people. this just all seems too much but i guess if you want the best. i hope these women are sex traffic girls.

  36. Anonymous says:

    Re: legal age of consent

    Man approaches girl in person…sweet talks into sex…state line is not crossed…can the age of consent be used as defense?

    Man approaches girl in person…sweet talks her into sex…state line was crossed…can the age of consent be used as defense?

    Man approaches girl on the Internet…sweet talks her into sex…servers are located heavens know where…state line may or may not have been crossed…can the age of consent be used as defense?

    Man approaches girl on the Internet…sweet talks her into sex…server are located heavens know where…state line may or may not be crossed…money was given to the girl…can the age of consent be used as defense?

    Are the Feds involved somehow or is the matter in district attorney’s hands?

    Discuss with your attorney before taking such risks.

    • SD says:

      well you are a barrel of optimism . How many of you(us) have consulted attys before the M&G ?

    • Anonymous says:

      As long as m&g was public, no harm was done. If she looks young and/or behaves young, ask for at least two pieces of ID.

    • Jose says:

      Definitely a risk you have to take if you are meeting someone who claims she is 18 years old. If you follow tumblr, a lot of underage girls over there ask for advice and tips on how to be an SB. I would definitely ask for an ID, but those too can be faked. However, most fake ID’s are used to purchase alcohol illegally. Doubt if a girl will fake an ID to pass of as an SB. Caveat emptor.

    • Josh says:

      @Jose

      Correct…IDs can be fake but it tkaes a lot of guts to confidently pull off two fake IDs.

      Take photos of the fake IDs if you want to CYA a little further.

      • Jose says:

        Unfortunately, even if you have pics of the 2 fake ID’s, it will not save you from a possible statutory rape charge. All it takes is for a bitch like Gloria Alred to get involved. The public humiliation alone for “raping a child” should make you consider celibacy forever.

      • Anonymous says:

        Well, if you were evaluating the information with your little head instead of your big head then you asked for it.

  37. Ell says:

    Hi everyone, first time posting on this blog. I’ve recently got involved in a sugar relationship with a SD and I’m relatively new in the sugar bowl. We constantly exchange text messages and had already met a few times so far for dinner, drinks and more (weekly). He’s 20 years older than me and honestly one very good looking man for someone of his age. But I’ve realised I made a mistake because we didn’t discuss the terms and arrangements on the first time we met (because he said he don’t like girls to ask how much can he provide on the first date) but I’m looking for a fixed allowance a month. He’s only given me an amount for cab and food every time we meet (insufficient) and gave me double of that because I went on a night out the night after we met and gave me a nice expensive perfume.

    The intimacy was great and I don’t feel forced when I am with him but the problem also lies when he asked if I will be monogamous, fall in love with him or be his girlfriend aka being exclusive? Well, we meet on SA clearly so that’s not what I wanted but I didn’t answer.

    I enjoy being with him but I feel it’s not enough that way and the problem is I don’t know how to initiate this topic of getting our expectations beforehand. I haven’t had a successful arrangement with a SD I liked so far so I don’t want to lose him. Will it be too late to discuss expectation and what should I do? HELPPP!

    • Anonymous says:

      Never too late to discuss details of the arrangement. If the physical part has started, the financial part should also. If you are holding up your end of the deal, so should he. It is called mutually beneficial. If you are not interested in developing a deeper relationship, then go tell him that. Honesty is the best policy.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      This is supposed to be mutually beneficial and if it’s not that way for you than you need to speak up. The longer you let this drag on the worse it will be. Discussing how much on a first meet might be off putting for some, but you should be able to discuss the type of arrangement you’re looking for.

      If he’s looking for something more organic (pseudo girlfriend) that he gives nice gifts, take out, and gives money to at his discretion; and you’re looking for something more structured with set expectations then you both just wasted each others time.

      Just tell him “I enjoy spending time with you. I really like you and appreciate the gifts you’ve given me but the reason I joined the site was because I needed help financially and I would like a fixed allowance that I can rely on. Is that something you’d be open to discussing?”

      He might be okay with it or you might lose him but if you were happy with the way things were you wouldn’t be on a blog asking for help. Good luck

    • SD says:

      Well Ell ,ell’s bells ,you are in a pickle. He sounds already like a gift Daddy .

      So here’s what you need to do. Have a face to face if you feel comfortable enough ,or you might prefer sending him an email which will give you time to think about what you are saying and not be swayed by his hand on your leg or his sparkling blue eyes sending you “I want to fuck you ” messages . Tell him what you expect out of the arrangement ,and that you didn’t before becoming intimate because you were new to this ,and overwhelmed . All true I imagine . Stick to your overall guns, but be a little flexible as to payment times ,etc. Don’t be shocked if he runs because if he hasn’t already brought up allowance on a regular basis he probably isn’t a real SD. So far he has gotten laid for free -minus the date costs,and to boot ,he wants an exclusive .

    • FlyBoy says:

      How much is a “nice expensive perfume”? $60 lol

      You will get nothing from this guy! He will fuck you until you get the courage to say something and then tell you that he doesn’t like shallow materialistic girls.

      Kudos to him for playing you!

      Cheers :)

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I was thinking the same thing but wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. There are always exceptions … maybe he’s one of them?

      • anonymousSSSD says:

        Agreed. Sounds like he took advantage of her naivete. Doesn’t like yo talk about allowance on first meet or second for that matter is bs. The questions about monogamy, being his girlfriend, etc. are a little wierd as well because this is not the site to find a gf. I think you will be hard pressed to get an allowance out of this guy now that you’ve set the precedent that you’ll give it up for dinner and a bottle of perfume.

      • Kore says:

        @SSSD Yes, SA isn’t the place to find a girlfriend, yet there are so many SD profiles that state that they are looking for ‘one.’ In other words, expecting that in return..

      • IHF2030 says:

        Why in the name of Zeus would any guy try to seek out a real girlfriend on this site?

      • Kore says:

        @IHF2030 It’s not the best place, but it doesn’t rule out the possibility of a traditional relationship if two unicorns meet.

    • Jose says:

      I hate tumblr/Instagram rinsers just as much as the next guy but you don’t appear to be one of those. However, it looks like you are being taken advantage of. So lose this guy and find yourself a real SD. If it is not mutually beneficial, then why hang around? I am sure you can buy a $60 perfume on your own.

    • Kore says:

      @Ell At this point, if you talk with him about an allowance, he would feel very insulted. Just tell him that you can’t be exclusive because of your financial situation and see how he reacts. That’s what I would do in your position, anyway..

      • Kore says:

        Also make sure to tell him how you feel about him. Be honest.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Ell I agree with core tell him you have to whore around because of your financial needs that’ll work for sure!

        @Kore great advice! Looks like I was wrong that wasn’t stupid at all!

      • Anonymous says:

        since when is being in a non-exclusive arrangement equivalent to whoring around? sounds like slut shaming to me as well as shit starting

      • Jaybird923 says:

        It’s not slut shaming idiot. I didn’t say there was anything wrong with it if you want to have multiple SDs it’s your life… to each his own. The point which you’re too dim to understand is that it’s stupid advice to tell an SD who wants an exclusive arrangement that you can’t be exclusive because of your financial needs. Especially when the OP said she didn’t want to lose him.

      • Anonymous says:

        I think I know who the idiots are here.

      • Kore says:

        Wow @Jay, you’ve really stooped to a new low. And evidenced a new level of stupidity:

        “..tell him you have to whore around..”
        “It’s not slut shaming..”

        What is it then? And what’s wrong with prostitution? Do you think a whore’s dignity is worth any less than yours? That a whore’s less worthy as a human than you are? How do you judge someone who’s reasons you don’t know and whose consequences you don’t deal with?

        Let me make this clear to anyone who’s reading; there’re only two surefire ways of practically avoiding prostitution in it’s totality:

        1) Do not have sex in a relationship that involves money.
        OR
        2) Do not give/receive money in a relationship that involves sex.

        This includes relationships with girlfriends who haven’t developed feelings for you and wives who have lost theirs. And, of course, SBs.

        Intent is the only denominator – not the number of people you have sex with (but I take it starts with one).

        Ok, so now that we’ve made clear that the number isn’t important – the only difference about your advice to Ell and mine is that you suggest she ‘whore’ for him alone. What I’ve suggested doesn’t necessarily mean she has to ‘whore around.’ It’s having the freedom to see other people taking your financial needs into consideration.
        If she had an amazing raise tomorrow, she might want to sleep with someone other than a SD that doesn’t meet his end of the bargain.

      • Kore says:

        Either way, she will probably end up loosing him at some point if he doesn’t pay up or if she doesn’t choose exclusivity. I’d just tell him that I have practical reasons for it, despite liking him. It’s better than leading him on by leeching his money away and not being able to be exclusive for him as he’d like.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        ROTFLMAO!!! My God you’re ignoramus! Don’t get hurt trying to pat yourself on the back for that bit of stupidity.

        @Josh and @Remmy I think you guys might be right about most women and logic. I won’t argue with you guys anymore.

      • Kore says:

        Yes, Jailbird? Have nothing constructive to say again?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        How to Deal With Dumb People

        3 Understand that you won’t be able to change their minds. This is another important point to get before you get yourself mixed up with stupid people. You may think that reason or sheer facts will win out every time, and that a stupid person will walk away thinking, “Wow, I never thought of it that way…” after you’ve given him or her a double-dose of logic. However, this is unlikely to happen; if a person is dumb, then he or she is also likely to be set in his or her ways.[1]
        If you realize that, while you may have very valid and reasonable opinions, you won’t be able to convince a stupid person of your point of view very easily, then you will stop trying. And if you stop trying to make a stupid person see your point, then you will be much less likely to get frustrated.
        Remember that your goal is not to make the stupid person agree with you; it’s to make yourself stay calm and sane while dealing with him or her.

        I think when it comes to you I’ll be following this advice from now on

        [http://m.wikihow.com/Deal-With-Dumb-People]

      • Kore says:

        Ironic! I’ve actually stayed calm the whole time! ^^ It’s you who’s just been swearing around – initiating, provoking and bad mouthing where you please like a troll princess. 😉 I’ve told you multiple times that you are welcome to ignore me, you don’t need to keep repeating it and then replying to posts I didn’t orginially direct at you. The OP can just choose whose advice they want to follow, so mine counts as much as yours. 😉 😉

        Didn’t realize you had to look that up, sweetie. Now, if that’s what you really feel like – again – you are more than welcome to follow it! :)

      • Anonymous says:

        i hate getting into a battle of wits with an unarmed person

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Anonymous Exactly!

      • Kore says:

        Illogical. You can’t get into a battle of wits with an unarmed person. 😉

    • noname says:

      Ell sounds like he’s looking for a girlfriend instead of a sugar baby the other’s have given good advice best you do what they suggested

    • Anonymous says:

      you either like him enough to not receive an allowance, or you just be upfront with him, although it does seem like the toothpaste has already been squeezed out of the tube, good luck, this guy doesnt seem like a real sd

    • uboat509 says:

      I agree with the other posters. Just be honest and request the same. This is a mutually beneficial arrangement, and while the gifts are welcomed and appreciated, I am pretty sure, you need to be clear that you are seeking a monetary allowance as well, as you indicate in your post. No, it is not too late because it has never been discussed. Bring it to the conversation as “by the way, we need to discuss the monthly allowance”. Be mindful he might not want to continue, if that is a deal breaker for you, which it seems (insufficient), just be prepared, and also be prepared to what you can accept as reasonable for you, and in terms of what you offer, and what you bring into the arrangement.

    • Hey Ell,

      It sounds like youve been generous with your affection, and genuine in your attraction for him. I agree with others that this should be mutually beneficial. I know that some consider this type of relationship “a gift daddy arrangement” but I wouldnt exactly consider things like meals and taxi fare “gifts”. The taxi fare is a necessary means for you to be accessible to him, it’s not beneficial to you. The meals may be nice, but surely do nothing as far as bettering or advancing your situation. Unless, of course, you consider these things enriching and/or enjoyable experiences beyond your means. To suggest that you commit to an exclusive relationship when he has not extended a beneficial gesture seems premature and misaligned considering the premise under which you became acquainted. I think your choices are:

      A) Say nothing, get nothing
      B) Say nothing, hope for the best
      C) Say something, get something
      D) Say something, get nothing

      To be fair, I think that silence can sometimes be mistaken for acceptance or satisfaction with the arrangement. So it could be that because youve not addressed it, he thinks youre cool with it. I have heard guys (here on blog and otherwise) say that this is the type of arrangement theyve had, and it works for them and the SBs theyve encountered. It could be that he thinks he’s providing you with things that you cant provide for yourself, or things that youre satisfied with despite your ability to provide them for yourself. He might feel sufficient, abundant even, in his givings. Had a guy tell me once that there are lots of women who cant afford to eat at nice restaurants, and they are happy to have the type of culinary experience that they might not otherwise. I told him that I very much enjoy eclectic and fine dining experiences, and would be happy to join him, but that it wouldnt be something Id consider an arrangement. He promptly lost interest. He visits my profile now and then…perhaps to let me know that the deal is still on the table.

      I also think that some guys come to the site looking for a SB, but ultimately are hoping for more of a gf type situation. I think this is sometimes the case even for legitimately nice guys. But if this is not what youre looking for, then you should move on.

      So about your guy, he’s either going to be open to an allowance, or he’s not. If saying something offends him because this is his idea of being a “gift daddy” and you genuinely enjoy his company and affection despite his frugal? allowance, then you need to ask yourself if you want to continue enjoying his company under the current situation as you might with a guy that youd met on another site, through a friend etc, or move on. With whom you decide to share yourself at that point is your business. I think that any SD who is serious about keeping the attention and exclusivity of a quality SB knows that he will have to demonstrate a beneficial investment to take her out of the pool.

    • flyR says:

      You never get a second chance to make a first agreement ……….

      One thing you might do is explain that your goal is certainty – knowing that if you are holding up your part of the arrangement a regular allowance will flow . If that’s not in the cards then
      option A – say goodbye and start looking
      B – start looking and after you have found someone say goodbye
      C- keep old and new
      D-Try to convert him

  38. SD says:

    Two things: 1)Joke of the day “A sorority girl with high standards.
    Needing assistance every now and again. Not asking for too much. If your looking for physical attention, I’m the wrong woman for you.” She posts her pic with a dude-I guess her high standard. I can’t wait to give her money to treat that boy to nice gifts.

    2)Anonymous #1 thru 10 -please put SB or SD next to your anon. The content usually tells but it is not always obvious. It is hard to keep track of the players

    • FormerAnon says:

      boy that is too bad she was really really attractive too she would make a great SB if she actually was willing to be an SB….the real laugher is her profile said “needs attention”…..very needy indeed

    • FormerAnon says:

      here is another real winner I found while searching yours…..talk about dichotomy and confusion I am not sure what the hell she is looking for besides your money of course…..well I think she is, but it almost sounded like she did not want THAT

      well there is ONE thing that is clear if you look like her dad you will probably be blocked

      ok and I guess you can buy her a drink and smoke her out as well….so that is a positive

      ********************************************************

      About Me

      College student, cheerleader, sorority girl, petite, barely legal. If these are any of your favorite porn categories, you’ll really enjoy my company.

      Ill tell you my flaws first because if you can’t handle those, you need to not even bother.:
      I’m a horrible texter and even worse with flaking out on plans.
      I’m probably that girl who never slept with you in high school.
      I’m incredibly high maintenance and notoriously late for everything.
      I’m sarcastic and I’ll challenge you, and I’ll tell you when you need to shave your beard.

      I just finished my undergrad and am working towards my Masters in Occupational Therapy for the next few years. I’m originally from New Jersey, and am now working on becoming independent while living and working in Boston.

      By the way, the sarcasm is an act. But if you’re offended, you should probably just move along.

      What I’m looking for

      I’m new at this so I’m not sure if I’m looking for love or employment.

      I’ve always been attracted to success, ambition, and someone who has their life together. I’m past the point of playing games in relationships and I’m tired of dating boys. If you sound too good to be true, don’t be offended when I’m skeptical.

      I’m not here for the money or the expensive dinners, I’d rather get to know you over drinks or a bowl.Don’t introduce me to your parents, your kids, or your friends. I’m not interested in commitment or a pure business agreement but I’m open to giving chances if you pique my interest.
      I don’t mean to sound shallow but I need to be physically attracted to you to have a connection.

      Here’s some deal breakers you should know before you message me that will likely get you ignored:
      1) any mention of kink or sex that you are into or anything you’d “like to do to me”
      2) any use of outdated slang in efforts to sound “young cool and hip”
      3) any resemblance in appearance or nature to my dad (Middle aged European white guy with a beard, it’s pretty common)
      4) don’t message me if you have no photos.

      I’m used to being spoiled growing up so don’t think your bragging impresses me. Don’t try and lure me in with vacations and gifts because if I’m not into you, I won’t accept them. There’s a reason for my high standards, it’s worth the effort.

      If you wouldn’t say it to a woman you met at a bar, don’t say it to me on here.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        “If you wouldn’t say it to a woman you met at a bar, don’t say it to me on here.”

        That’s the only thing in her whole profile I agree with. From What I’ve read on those blacklist site some guys think the fact that they are in a position to offer financial assistance gives them license to talk to some of the women in the most degrading fashion that they can.

      • Kore says:

        @Former 😀 It shows that she’s ‘barely legal.’ Very scattered thoughts, but it kind of makes sense if you draw a median through her extremes.

        From what I’ve understood, she’s here looking for someone to love or have a business relationship with.

      • Anonymous says:

        She might be barely legal because she is borderline retarded therefore legally barely capable of giving consent. College graduate means at least 20-21 (even if the person is a genius and finishes college in 3 years instead of 4). That is not barely legal in any jurisdiction. If she is indeed in Boston as she claims in profile, the legal age of consent in MA is 16.

    • Anonymous says:

      My sole purpose in life is to succeed in business and make a lot of money so someday I can finance the Playstation and Xbox games of the loser BF of a “sorority with high standards”. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!
      My right hand is free and baby oil is pretty cheap. No thank you.

  39. FormerAnon says:

    here is today’s bargain of the week!…..not one, but TWO SBs and even better guys…….wait for it……wait…….wait….they are NON-SEXUAL! so they WILL NOT TOUCH YOU!

    but hey it is “two for the price of one!”…..or as those of us with a brain like to say nothing for the cost of two!…..hurry now guys these two will not last long

    • The biggest bang for your buck:

      One sugarbaby, multiple personalities with matching wigs.

      [http://randommization.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/unicorn-horn-wig_2.jpg]

    • spirit_greywolf says:

      Oh that’s a riot! I about fell out of my chair laughing!! That’s AWESOME and yet so indicative of a bunch of recent profiles.

      “We’re fun, open-minded, but we’re not looking for anything sexual but we’ll make you feel young!”

      Uhh, I already feel young. And if I need a burst of adrenaline I’ll go race my motorcycle around a mountain with tons of curves, or fly and race drones I build at the part. I don’t need arm-candy to feel “young”… Priceless!!

      Wolf

    • Anonymous says:

      These entitled princesses are basically looking for a sucker to fund/finance their unemployed XBox-playing, weed-smoking, beer-drinking fraternity boy toys with their chiseled abs and tribal arm tats. So you give them 10K a month and take them to dinner where sit across the table for you while they bore you to death about how they sucked and fucked their loser BFs

    • Anonymous says:

      Here is another gem:
      Seeking to be wine & dined, intellectual conversations, no creeps. Does NOT have to be a physical relationship. WE primarily want verbal stimulation. Just great company overall!

      So I guess if they want verbal stimulation, I will them they look great and then text them a picture of hundred dollar bills. Everybody wins!

  40. Anonymous says:

    “im not looking for sd that play games and only wants one thing.”

    If you only have one thing to offer then SDs will go for that. The corresponding scenario would be if the SD has only money to offer…then some women would just go for that.

  41. […] so las ich gerade, muss sich der Herr nicht einmal mehr selbst um ein „Arrangement“ kümmern. Für schlappe 500 USD sitzt die Dame frisch gebadet, geschminkt und in liebevoller […]

    • Kore says:

      Als ob die meisten Frauen auf SA nicht frisch gebadet, usw zu eine Treffung kommen wuerden? Es gehoert sich doch zu normale Datingetikette.

      Ausser das oberflaechliche Heraussuchen von Frauen wird bei PA nichts so viel neues angebeoten.. Die organisiern fuer dich zwar den Tisch vielleicht, aber das restliche Verfahren laeuft genau so ab wie bei SA Arrangements soweit ich es verstanden habe.

      Vielleicht wer viel Geld und wirklich wenig Zeit faende, dass es sich lohnt. Sonst ist das fuer 500 nicht richtig, denn das Geld ist nur das PA Gebuher. Es kommen noch die zusaestliche Kosten dazu, naemlich die Aktivitaetenkosten und den Allowance gibts auch noch.

  42. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    I might have tried this as a first dip of the toe into online sugar…after being on the site as long as I have been, it seems pointless to go this route…especially when it feels like I’ve already talked to or excluded every profile locally…

    I wonder how the matchmakers are chosen, how they evaluate and what communication they provide between the SD and SB profiles…

    Maybe the blog load would be lightened since there are so many experts on sugar on here?

  43. Anonymous says:

    Seeing more and more of these one sentence profiles on SA.
    Age: 18
    Expectation: Moderate
    What I am looking for: Looking for someone who will pay me an allowance each week to help out with school in exchange for pictures! :))

    • Anonymous says:

      no, you shouldnt have to send pics for money, you should get payed just cause you are young and you think you are pretty, that is usually my response to them

    • Anonymous says:

      There you go. Why should young women have to do anything to get money?

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        I offer to send them photos of money in return, when you ask how much do they want they tend to get really confused…

  44. Anonymous says:

    Kore13 says: “Yes, i’ve noticed some like to gang up in their little clique for a bitchfest. ^^ And one can’t help but wonder which anon is actually a different person.. I don’t take it seriously. :) They can continue to make asses of themselves…”

    Absolutely, Kore.
    You are my only Joy of the Blog, the pure sunshine and the source of infinite and most profound truth and wisdom. If you post your email address here, I will start sending you donations and gifts, just because I appreciate you as an ultimate delight for my aging brain cells…

  45. flyR says:

    Sunday Ramblings Looking back on SA

    I got a nice note from an SB from across the country whom I had helped with her profile. Really just encouraged her to set her sights higher in terms of quality of man and quality of relationship including a major edit of her profile.

    It reminded me of the number of women who have been on and then left the blog who were intelligent and successful in sugar and in life. There’s a vastly disproportionate amount of angst over so called rinsers and schemers and too little talk about the quality women here. To be sure they do exist but they are in the minority.

    If you are struggling with life you are probably going to struggle here either as an SB or SD. I doubt the message will help many elevate their behavior but hopefully it might encourage some to not LOWER their expectations or behavior.

    Yes there reality sugar and the median ALLOWANCE is far lower than the puffed up numbers SA pushes on the press. While SA is obsessed about the $ there’s equally important issues of social and sexual compatibility, how each is treated and what kind of people are involved.

    If you are ending up with fleas you’re probably acting like a dog.

    • == says:

      Do you still give profile advice? :)

    • spirit_greywolf says:

      Flyr – those are excellent points. The points of the equally important issues of social and sexual compatibility and who is involved, etc., play a large part.

      And you are correct about the SB’s struggling with life also being ones to struggle online here. I can say if they got their life a little more in order, their prospects of finding someone that would treat them well from here would grow exponentially.

      My simple rules of “coffee first” or “Skype first” if they are further away has done more to weed out the players, gamers and “Don’t I look Pretty So Pay Me” scammers than anything else. The ones that say “I’m tired of being jerked around so I expect a gift for coffee” I politely turn them down. Their inability to choose well shouldn’t force me to pay a price :-) I often gift a little anyway simply for them taking the time. It’s not much – but it’s certainly better than whatever job they typically have for that hour of time out of their life. And I do this if they’re nice and are someone I could see having an arrangement with. Humble ones usually never expect it, and it’s just nice to see them light up at the fact that there are nice people in the world. Some people on here would call it “chumming”. I don’t. It’s not enough to elicit the gold-diggers but it’s certainly enough to show I appreciate their time.

      • flyR says:

        My experience is that there’s a vast universe of women who just want to be treated like a friend, partner, intelligent woman and know that their partner gets pleasure from pleasing them and being pleased by them, appreciates the things she does for him and knows that he is genuine. My guess is that in this world of virtual friends and high mobility many have fewer real friends.

        Too few SD’s understand the criticalness of the first 1,200 seconds you are naked together.

  46. Jaybird923 says:

    YAY!!!! I’m officially a proxy. :-)

    • Catcher 22 says:

      You are a very convincing proxy. You sure had me fooled all this time :-)

      • Jaybird923 says:

        That’s because I’m a genius. I’ve been able to maintain five different personas, all with different personalities and have only now been found out. And apparently I’m receiving a check from SA to do it. :-)

    • Josh says:

      Congratulations on becoming an “official” and unanimously-accepted proxy.

      What this proves is that anyone who writes logical prose is Josh’s proxy.

      It also proves that the ghost of Josh is as effective as the man himself. 😉

    • Anonymous says:

      @Josh sucks ass.

    • Catcher 22 says:

      Well, I always suspected that @lovelynyours was your proxy. She impressed me with how how intelligent and articulate her postings were. I was sorry to see her leave the building. Perhaps you will bring her back one day. :-)

  47. flyR says:

    Even thinking about signing up for Perfect Arrangement is a message from god that you have a near terminal imbalance between cash and brains .

    • Anonymous says:

      Can those who don’t believe in god get a message from god?

      In other words if an atheist thinks about signing up with PA, does he get a message from someone or no?

      • Kore says:

        I’ve heard often that everything is an act of God, so if you look at it this way, a call from the finanical advisor would also be God sending you a message. ^^

      • Anonymous says:

        So the atheist’s lack of belief in God is inconsequential?

      • Kore says:

        I’ve heard often enough how nonbelievers will burn, so it would appear so.

      • flyR says:

        Yes , in the case of Perfect Arrangement the message is go for it you’ll come back a more humble man

  48. Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous

    “i happen to know that fundud is actually a woman, she and flyboy are the same woman”

    How do you “happen to know” that?

  49. Anonymous says:

    So this @Anon is not @Josh as the message is not ending with an emoticon?

  50. Anonymous says:

    Can anyone find TellmeEVRYthing anymore? She was attempting striptease competition scam on me. I asked a bunch of questions to frame her so that the SA staff can have the proof…then reported her. She seems to be gone.

  51. Wordsmith says:

    “let us take the reigns”

    Only a monarch who reigns can take the reins.

  52. Anonymous says:

    @Kore – you may not have noticed but Fundud Jailbird and Josh (now Anon) are all the same person and it trolls the blog to get a reaction so it can argue with people – best to ignore the troll.

    • Anonymous says:

      You forget to include @rem and @cryptic, no? 😉

    • Anonymous says:

      Also flyR and FlyBoy. This is all the same split personality…

    • Confused says:

      Are they all one and the same person employed by SA to make the blog look busy? :(

      • Anonymous says:

        Yep. Saves Brandon a lot of cash… Well, wait… That person is free, s/he just enjoys it…

      • Anonymous says:

        everyone already knew this

      • Confused says:

        So all the “arguments” here are contrived?

        Kinda makes sense…no one is moderated or banned…like EVER. :(

      • Anonymous says:

        Thought it was hilarious last week when Jailbird vouched for the authenticity of fundud

      • Anonymous says:

        i happen to know that fundud is actually a woman, she and flyboy are the same woman

      • Anonymous says:

        I happen to know all of these ppl are Fat Bastard… They live in the same retirement community in SoFL and come up with a new web persona at least once a month…

      • Confused says:

        So FatBastard = Josh = All the others?

      • flyR says:

        If you have read a few of my posts you would understand that I am the last guy on the earth SA would employ

      • Anonymous says:

        @flyR
        U denying it just proves I am right. U r precisely the guy SA will employ because everyone will think you are the last guy they will employ…
        I am so smug for my shirt…

    • Kore13 says:

      Yes, i’ve noticed some like to gang up in their little clique for a bitchfest. ^^ And one can’t help but wonder which anon is actually a different person..
      I don’t take it seriously. :) They can continue to make asses of themselves.

      • Anonymous says:

        well, josh as annon is easy to tell, he ends every post with the winking emoticon

      • Traveling Man says:

        Yes, pay no attention Kore. In guy world, we call what they do a “circle jerk”, or you could say a “Circular firing Squad”, kinda like morning DJ’s who laugh at their own stupid shit that’s unfunny to the rest of the world

      • Kore says:

        @Traveling Man They should make a new site. SeekingAttention.

        @Anon I am too new to have noticed.

  53. BusyCEO says:

    The “Sugar Bowl” has been around for years, regardless of what ‘label’ you want market it as. I commend sites like SA, SD4M, et al, for creating an actual business sector and hopefully profiting for their efforts. However, as a highly successful SD, I enjoy the ‘cat-and-mouse’ of sifting through messages, ascertaining needs and goals, and moving forward towards real meets. There is so much that can be learned about the potential SB during this process, why would I give that up? I think I will pass on PA as I like to ‘drive.’

    ~BusyCEO

  54. Anonymous says:

    I knew that women’s propensity to bullshit had its benefits too:

    “Since we were married in 2008, I have had two strokes, and one of them left me with horribly slurred speech. I could hear how my voice sounded, but I could do nothing to correct it. My wife kept encouraging me to talk to her, telling me that she didn’t care how I sounded, only that she wanted to hear my voice. Because of her encouragement, I kept talking to her and eventually my speech returned to normal.”

    • Kore13 says:

      Unfortunately, some of the crazies (that’s all you’ll attract with this attitude) even go so far as to procreate with the likes of you. Hopefully, the children are better educated with a more nonsexist, civilized mindset.

    • Anonymous says:

      Sweetheart, if I had male kids I would advise them to sugar, from the get go, instead of getting married UNTIL the fucking laws in western countries changed. :)

      • Kore13 says:

        You mean in the U.S. Europe is slightly different.

      • Anonymous says:

        US, Europe including its stinky asshole UK, Australia and Canada.

      • Kore13 says:

        It’s not as big a deal in Europe as it is in the U.S. I’ve haven’t heard a single European man say he’d rather not marry because he’s afraid of the woman taking advantage of the legal system. Not even one!

        I’m kind of sick of hearing so many complaints about ‘women.’ As if the center of the world is where you live – no, not all women are the kind of women you’ve dealt with. If they are taking advantage of the legal system, then make efforts to change it. If you can’t change it, it’s most likely because the stupid people who caused those laws to be put into place still outnumber the stupid people taking advantage of it.

        As a non U.S. woman, I don’

      • Kore13 says:

        As a non U.S. woman, I don’t like hearing how all women are stupid, etc etc because of those you’ve encountered where you live. I’m sure that there’s one out there that might be to your liking, so instead of being a pessimist, maybe you can try a more realisitc approach.

      • Anonymous says:

        You have not run into a racist Englishman and you “haven’t heard a single European man say he’d rather not marry because he’s afraid of the woman taking advantage of the legal system.”

        That means you have neither met too many Englishmen nor too many European men.

      • Kore13 says:

        No, I haven’t run into that many Englishmen here, and I doubt I will run into that many racist ones outside of the UK. I live in Europe and there are plenty of men here from this continent.. And plenty of women who don’t want to make babies and give up their jobs, etc.. A whole different world from the shallow ‘take me shopping’ gals who some U.S. men end up wedding for a strange reason.

        Which reminds me, what happened to owning up to your mistakes? And how do you end up marrying someone who might stab you in the back that hard? Yes, I think it’s better not to marry if you think she’s the type that will abuse the law to her advantage. But placing all women under this image you have of the ones you’ve encountered. Nope.

  55. Jaybird923 says:

    63 post out of 443 post by one person and not a one contains anything useful or entertaining…. at least to me

    • Anonymous says:

      😉

    • Kore13 says:

      Knowing your capacity to understand and make use of thingsn this isn’t surprising.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      65 posts :-))

      • Kore13 says:

        Don’t worry, you’ve beat me by default by having been on the SA blogs longer.

      • Kore13 says:

        “Why is that the people I could careless about are the ones who just can’t help seeking my attention.”

        So much of BS trying to provoke with your trollish comments. Just like before, there’s evidence of you doing this by creating a post anew about this out of the blue. Nothing to benefit anyone except your own ego. Nice move.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        “Knowing your capacity to understand and make use of things this isn’t surprising.”

        I mentioned no names. I made a comment on a blog and you attacked me. :-((

        It isn’t my fault that I can’t understand the asinine and illogical nonsense you post all day long to every post any one writes. You’re a big meany Kore.

        On another note have you ever read John Steinbeck “Of Mice and Men”? Every time I read your post it brings one of the characters to mind…

      • Anonymous says:

        It’s the weekend – I was just giving you a taste of your own medicine.

        This is a blog – not many people ask a certain person for adivce, so everyone’s free to express themselves.

        No, I haven’t read the book, but have you researched the psychology behind trolling?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        LOL You’re such a twit … but I like you :-)) Enjoy the rest of your day Kore

      • Anonymous says:

        I haven’t read the book but I did stay at Holiday Inn Express last night. Does that count? 😉

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @ANON Are you suggesting that Holiday Inn Express has mice :-))

  56. Anonymous says:

    @Kore13

    “Oh, let me correct myself.

    Sorry you had a bad experience, but not ALL women are not like this.”

    [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYdbxSRIWu8]

    If that is too long a video…then I can provide you a shorter variety. 😉

    • Kore13 says:

      No need. Yes, the video is too long for me, but the fact that you are so close-minded is a put off. I don’t care to discuss with you any longer about this. If you don’t like my adivce, the least you could do is ignore it when it’s not directed at you.

  57. Anonymous says:

    How this thing works? Do they guarantee matches before you pay? I’ve been here for more than a month and not a single meeting! Dozens are viewing my profiles everyday, and when it occasionally happens that I message first, I often don’t get a reply. When they message, they don’t suggest meeting, talk like jerks and make offers that are not aligned with what is stated on their profile. Goes from “I am willing to pay 4000-15000$ per month and I am basically like Mr. Grey” to “Oh I have an SB in the same city. I used to have a three-way arrangement for 2 years and I’m looking to replace the girl.” Another one, I’m looking for a swinging partner. Others I pay 1200-2000$ per meet. All this without discussing an arrangement or setting up a meeting. Is that a site guys use to pick girls as escorts? I’m confused…

    And here you have SD complaining that women play them… Go figure.

    • Anonymous says:

      This is not Match, POF or OKCupid…There are a lot more women compared to men.

      This site plays off of what marketing people call: The “lizard brain” among marketing people.

      That is, pussy motivates men…money motivates women.

      If you are fat, ugly, old or non-White, the above will happen to you. Sorry it is what it is.

    • Anonymous says:

      Also, women have been getting paid for using their pussy/womb for eons. It’s called marriage for the most part and prostitution in some cases.

      So Don’t bring your escort/john dichotomy here.

    • spirit_greywolf says:

      Many of the “Lizard Brain” guys on here haven’t a clue on how to use a doorknob, let alone write a decent introduction or approach women with civility.

      Seriously, I usually have to wait less than a week then approach a woman here and they treat me like a breath of fresh air. I actually write to them. I communicate. I use punctuation. I spell check. These all appear to be concepts that are lacking on a LOT of guys. No, I am not saying ALL of them. Of course there are a number of us that actually KNOW what we’re doing.

      If however you’re not attracting them it could be the way you approach them, the content of your profile, or you might simply live in the middle of a cesspool of asshats. There’s still good ones – you just have to tailor your approach like a fine hook to catch them.

      Throw a turd in the water and you’ll get lots of stuff that eats poop. Throw something meaningful in the water and you might catch something you actually want :-)

      Wolf

  58. rembodler says:

    I always find it hilarious when they block you. Not for saying anything rude or being explicit – blocking you instead of simply saying “No, thank you and good luck!”
    I guess if I can write back – after being blocked – I would say: “Oh, sweetie… Do not worry, just say “no” and we are done! That is what polite civil people do. I have another five conversations going and, by the way, thank you for narrowing it down for me!”
    Maybe that is precisely why they block you, so you cannot tell them that?

    • Anonymous says:

      I have not had many blocks even after disagreements…they just stop responding. Most of the time I will see check mark, which means they have read my comment and ignored it. If they ignore a couple of my messages, then I move on.

      When they do block me I was pretty much expecting it.

      The only time I was pretty much dumbfounded was when we were having pretty decent conversation and boom…I was banned…could never figure that one out. 😉

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        Did they view a private photo? If I was Richard Gere I wouldn’t be on SA…

      • spirit_greywolf says:

        Yeah – that happened once to me, too. Things were going swimmingly then “BAM” the block hammer dropped. I like to think she might have confused my profile with someone else’s (at least my ego likes to think that)… There have been days I wanted to set up a separate profile just so I can “get the last word” in and then block THEM.

        Oh I know – it’s so childish but it would be fun sometimes I think :-)

        Wolf

    • Minnie says:

      The opposite is true. When you message guy, they never take time to reply and say no. They simply look at your profile and ignore.

    • no name says:

      rembodler its highly likely thats the case they don’t want to hear the truth the ladies are not very sweet when their not getting any sugar

      • SouthernSB says:

        I just thank the guys for viewing my profile and wish them good luck in finding the girl of their dreams.

    • Anonymous says:

      Many women claim that they have “no filter.” Yet another crock of shit statement from women.

      Women in general have “no filter” when they are not getting their way.

  59. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Anonymous

    Assuming it was a serious question; the “ad” thing was probably my doing. It is a loan word from Latin. Basically it means “regarding” or “in relationship to”.

  60. Welp, gang…Am off to go and sleep in a tent. Daddy’s on a budget. Five dolla’ holla’.

    Probably wont be able to play again until Monday :(

  61. Anonymous says:

    Most women on BackPage are black. Should it be called BlackPage?

  62. Anonymous 3 says:

    @yougottabekiddingme

    “And some of them will do you for free…

    …then hold out for the alimony.”

    Bingo…that’s where the rubber meets the vagina…so to speak. 😉

    • Am talking about the ones at home with the kids :)

      What a glorious spectrum of whoredom!

      Whores here, whores there
      OMG, there are whores EVERYWHERE!!!

      Hell, I might blow a guy to take his place in line…depending on how long the line is. A minute on the clock is a minute off the block. Gotta keep it moving!

  63. Anonymous 2 says:

    A woman who refers to BackPage on this blog is no different from the one who came from BackPage to earn more. 😉

    • Anonymous says:

      Interesting considering johns from BP are the ones posting price point percentages that they think women are DTF at. That is someone who has frequented with an escort for sure. $1000 doesn’t even come close to being in the same room with, much less being sexual with some of the guys on this site. For those guys no amount would ever be enough.

  64. Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous

    “Go back to backpage with ur stupid statistics that are for backpage.”

    Fuck off…you either no nothing or came here from backpage to earn more. 😉 !!!

  65. Anonymous says:

    @Kore13

    “It won’t matter if you’re good at signals or not if you find the right girl. She’ll help you out.”

    Women’s relationship “advice” to men is useless. Women’s relationship “advice” to other women is disastrous. 😉

  66. Anonymous says:

    @Kore13

    ‘“Women are neither capable nor interested in “loving” a man, even if he is the father of their children.”

    Sorry you had a bad experience, but women are not like this.’

    Really? Most divorces are initiated by women, and when non-marital relationships fail, it is women who dump the man.

    • Kore13 says:

      Oh, let me correct myself.

      Sorry you had a bad experience, but not ALL women are not like this.

      • Kore13 says:

        “Women’s relationship “advice” to men is useless. Women’s relationship “advice” to other women is disastrous.”

        Yes, you’ve said this already. If you can’t take any advice from from women, I suggest at least using softener on your towels.

        Wait, don’t take that advice either. 😀

      • Anonymous says:

        Correct. You know NOTHING about male self-masturbation but that did not prevent you from dishing out your dumb “advise.” :(

      • Kore13 says:

        Self-masturbation? 😀

      • Kore13 says:

        Just curious.. what makes you think that womens’ advice about relationship to men is stupid?

      • Anonymous says:

        @Kore

        Because cause and effect is pretty much an insurmountable challenge to most women…UNLESS they are:

        1. Naturally blessed by the skill, or
        2. Are professionally trained by men in gaining such skill

      • Kore13 says:

        Oh, then maybe you can try to avoid generalizing about womens’ adivce? You’ve just listed two exceptions yourself, so not all women are like this.

      • Anonymous says:

        OK give me a percentage of women that fit the exceptions described in #1 and #2, and if you are close enough then I will correct my statement.

  67. Anonymous says:

    Women here will give you lectures about class, standards, etc., but it all boils down to dollars.

    More than 80% will do you for $500. Almost 100% of them will do you for $1,000.

    • Anonymous says:

      Let’s break it down further…

      10-20% will do you for $100.
      30-40% will do you for $200.
      40-50% will do you for $300.
      More than 80% will do you for $500.
      Almost 100% of them will do you for $1,000.

      Therefore, this whole PA charade is useless. 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        20-40% will do you for $100.
        40-60% will do you for $200.
        60-75% will do you for $300.
        75-90% will do you for $500.
        90-99.9% of them will do you for $1,000.

        i think is more accurate

      • Anonymous says:

        Whatever floats your boat @Anon. 😉

      • NaomiABZ says:

        I would disagree. If there’s one thing I have learned form joining this website, it is that I am unable/unwilling to lower my standards very much for money. If I see a man’s photo and my first reaction is something along the lines of “Oh hell no!” (which unfortunately happens a fair bit), then there is absolutely no way I will consider anything intimate with him regardless of the offer.

      • Anonymous says:

        Go back to backpage with ur stupid statistics that are for backpage.

      • Anonymous says:

        @NaomiABZ

        Yours is a typical idiotic female response. The percentages above have NOTHING to do about moving a woman from “Oh hell no!” to “I will.”

        It has to do with how to break down the $ levels where most women outside of “Oh hell no!” domain will bite.

      • And some of them will do you for free…

        …then hold out for the alimony.

        What filthy whores 😀

        Id consider having sex for a scoop of my favorite icecream…

        if I was really craving it…

        and Id left my wallet at home…

        and the handsome man behind me kindly offered to buy it for me…

        two cones, one stop…compare and contrast…one lick at a time…sometimes two…yum!

        Yes, please, kind sir.

        What a filthy whore ;D

      • Kore13 says:

        “Yours is a typical idiotic female response.”

        Countered by an even more idotic male response.

  68. Anonymous says:

    I have started seeing “Ad” being used in front of sentences. What does that mean?

  69. Ace of Spades ;) says:

    I also gave you guys four new sugar babies, one boy, a diamond daddy, and a fourth Venezuelan babe coming soon. :) <3

  70. NeedAdvice says:

    This may be one of those things if you have to ask, you probably aren’t ready for the answer. But, how does this really work? Is the ‘agreement’ between 2 people something that should be written down? How many days a week? Will you text back within, say 3 hours? How much money and when? Seems a bit transactional but I am clearly doing something wrong. Example, meet a girl, go out for a nice dinner get to know each other for an initial meeting. Then, maybe later than week, talk about the ‘deal’. Agree to the deal. Fulfill my end of the deal in terms of $. Go out again next week, have a great time, suggest staying over, no dice. Go out again week after, get a room and she goes ‘oh, I have to work early in the morning, so I can’t stay over tonight, but it’s your turn to fork over more money.’ I can relate that maybe I wouldn’t be someone that the girl would ‘normally’ date but hence, the $ aspect comes in to offset that. This happens a lot. Or the girl gets the idea that I should pay for her ‘company’. Or spend time chasing the girl trying to get a first date. We exchange messages; we talk some, but any time I suggest meeting, crickets or some excuse or the girl has something else going on. I am just tired of this and I am doing something wrong here. I’m relatively new as an SD to the sugar bowl and the lifestyle sounds great – I just want to make it happen and maybe need to be taught or instructed on how to do this better. Is there a formula that should be followed? I am fine with changing up my approach. To be honest, I just thought this SA thing would make it easier to date (without the games) and it’s just been harder and far more costly. Without sounding to whiny, help? LOL

    • Anonymous says:

      you have failed miserably in the giving of money before the panties hit the floor, think of it this way…theirs an imaginary string going from your wallet to her panties, or pay her up front and TRUST her…lol. gl with that

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Your problem is that you’re assuming the girls you’re meeting with are looking for the same type of arrangement that you are. Some people just want to show up, have sex, and collect their money. They are not looking for the intimacy/companionship that you seem to be looking for. Yes there are supposed to be lest games but you also have to be able to express exactly what you’re looking for.

      If you want someone who wants to spend the night, communicate in between meets, etc. then say it. If it’s not for them most will walk away because it requires too much of a commitment for them.

      You don’t walk into a car dealership and tell them you’re looking for a car. You tell what features you’re looking for and they show you cars that have them or models that have more than you asked for.

      In other words it’s your money don’t be shy about expressing exactly what you want to receive for it. They will either accept or decline but at least you won’t be wasting your time.

      Since the women are not taking your money and running you’re obviously doing a good job at screening them. No need to join the pay for play crowd like suggested. Just be more open about what you need.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Also some people are not actually looking to meet for real this is simply entertainment for them. So don’t take the ones who go ghost when you suggest meeting personal. It happens to everyone.

      • DontlikeSDterm says:

        Jaybird — great points. And some profiles suggest one thing when that’s not what they are really looking for. I read a profile recently from someone interesting who talked about looking for a long term situation with a single guy she respected/trusted but when I emailed her, she made clear she would never stay overnight, although she was certainly willing to show up for an hour or two a couple of nights a week (to me that’s more of an escort than an arrangement). Some want to go on dates, while others emphasize how important discretion is to them (meaning they don’t want to be seen in public with you.). The key is communication. Then again, I’m having a hard time finding what I’m looking for in my area (which is really a less drama/no games girlfriend) although I do find in many areas of the country there are attractive well-educated women who are looking for a less drama/no games boyfriend, who can help with the things going on in their life and take them to nice places they would like to go.

      • Ace of spades says:

        If it’s about money than it’s not about love

      • Ace of spades says:

        If it’s about money than it’s not about love. Love is the answer to your dreams. I promise. Keep seeking money but it’s not what you need to manifest but it sure is fun.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Ace of spades

        Why are you bringing the L word into this conversation?

        Women are fully capable of loving a child, especially their own flesh and blood. They are also capable of loving their parent and/or siblings.

        Women are neither capable nor interested in “loving” a man, even if he is the father of their children.

        If you study what “love” demands…then you put a man and a woman in a romantic relationship and implement such demands, women fail miserably.

      • NeedAdvice says:

        These are all great items – I thought I was being clear, but maybe I am not and I can make an effort to be even more explicit. Generally speaking, the girls I have met have been good social experiences. Look like their pictures, been fun to go out with and more. I don’t take the ‘going ghost’ too personal – I get the weirdness of dating. God knows I have lost interest after a date or 2, so that happens. I guess just be more black and white – again, just thought this would be easier. It’s just been discouraging. It also comes down to me not being really good with reading signals from women – my fault I know and I just thought it would be easier with the $ aspect.

      • Anonymous says:

        $ is the best control mechanism for women. But how you use the $ is as important.

      • Kore13 says:

        “Women are neither capable nor interested in “loving” a man, even if he is the father of their children.”

        Sorry you had a bad experience, but women are not like this.

      • Kore13 says:

        @NeedAdvice Mine to you has ended up a few posts below.

        There are girls here with high demands. Just keep looking and be a bit patient.

        It won’t matter if you’re good at signals or not if you find the right girl. She’ll help you out.

    • DontlikeSDterm says:

      I’ve been here for six months or so, and have figured out a couple of mistakes. On the other hand, I don’t think I’ve been scammed, except for the first time, which doesn’t sound as bad as yours. The key is communicating expectations. To me, its important to establish a relationship of some type before anything mutually beneficial. Lets get dinner/coffee/drinks, test the chemistry, and understand each other’s needs. I also think it’s important up front in emails to state what you’re looking for, e.g., I’m looking for someone to stay over on a regular basis. I’m happy to take time until a women is comfortable staying over but … comfort is mutual … I’m happy to buy dinner and drinks while we’re figuring out the comfort but not happy to start allowances until we’ve decided we’re comfortable enough to spend time staying over. And “Oh … I thought you were staying over tonight, all my cash is at home” is a good home. If you’re discussing allowances, you need to be at least semi-direct and agree on how many nights are we going to stay together. If ongoing communication is important, you need to discuss that.

      • Anonymous says:

        that is way too much common sense for an internet blog, and it has no place here

      • DontlikeSDterm says:

        I’m still figuring things out … but I do know how to say, “if you parents sign your lease, I’m happy to pay your rent” or “it seems to me that you’re not really looking right now for something regular, so how about whenever it works, we get dinner and come back and hang out.” That seems to be pretty easy to find, even in my area, although I frankly prefer something more stable.

    • Anonymous says:

      Upfront money to SBs is the dead horse that we beat here again and again and again and yet again.

      There are three formats:

      1. The SB gets paid at the beginning of the arrangement duration (week, month, etc.)
      2. The SB gets paid as the arrangement progresses. Some call it pay for play, pay and play, pay for performance, etc.
      3. The SB gets paid at the end of the arrangement duration.

      Most SBs will push for #1 claiming that it is the “respectful” way to engage the SB. They will refuse #2 on the grounds that it sounds like prostitution. They will also refuse #3 as they have bills to pay and/or they can’t trust the SD enough to pay at the end.

      The way to get them to agree on #2 is to offer #3 as the “respectful” way to go. They will push back. Then you “reluctantly” agree on #2 as “temporary” measure until the mutual trust is built.

      Most of them won’t last but a few weeks or months. Those who last beyond that period can be considered for upfront payment…but I can assure you that even a well-behaved SB will play games with you after she gets the upfront money.

      Some of the women will try to argue that if you screened them well then you would not have to worry about paying upfront. Don’t believe that. 100s of millions of men “screen” women for weeks, months or years before marrying them only to get a boot because they are not “happy.”

      Women are like Brits…they are “happy” in their misery.

      • Anonymous says:

        [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1581252/US-writer-sees-Britons-happy-when-miserable.html]

      • rembodler says:

        You know how there is a saying: “Do not leave your belonging in the car – do not make a good guy a bad guy!” Same is women and upfront money. The money is now long spent, but the SB still has to deal with you, find time, doll up, shave etc. – and all for nothing! they are gonna do all of that and get NOTHING! And then she thinks one of two things:

        1. I will text “that one”, tell him it is an emergency and ask him to give me more, or
        2. I found “that one” and it was easy. I can spend my next week looking for another one and have the rent money by the end of the month. Ad screw “that one”, I am worth so much more!
        And so it goes.

    • Kore13 says:

      @NeedAdvice I agree. I think you should tell them sooner what you are after – this way, you will save money on the first meets and possibly reduce the number of women who see it as something purely transactional.

      I prefer when a SD tells me from the beginning what he’s after – I get to know him better from they way he tells me and it’s nice to know what will be expected of eachother. This way, we don’t have to ‘waste’ time before realizing whether we’d work or not.

      Otherwise, I personally never bring up the allowance. If the SD doesn’t bring it up and we’re still speaking, it’s because we trust each other.

    • Bartolo says:

      “You’re doing it wrong.” If your instincts are that bad, I doubt that typing out a list of procedures and answers to your questions will actually help you.

      You might want to save your money and look elsewhere. You’re going to spend a lot of $$ for platonic dates.

    • Anonymous says:

      OMG we need an intervention here

      When you buy a house there is an escrow —— everybody puts their stuff in a safe place and when it is all there the home is yours and the sellers have their cash.

      NEVER provide an allowance for a first naked adventure

      for the SB – never get naked or put anything pink in your mouth before there is cash

      If you have been involved with sugar for more than 3 years you can violate the rules but you are probably wise enough not to .

      POF is the equivalent of entering escrow. it is time to man up now or just prior. UNLESS you have absolute confidence that the SD will fulfill his promises

      • Anonymous says:

        the escrow equivalent is that the young woman exchanges her panties for the envelope……. a little transactional yes

        The touch of the artist is to keep it light and fun in whatever medium works……

    • no name says:

      needadvice im not sure i understand your post but i do remember what it was like to be a new SD we don’t have schools or forums to teach us how to be good sugar daddies like the ladies do so we have to learn this the hard way through trial and error make sure you have a amount that you can afford to spend and not regret loseing it also make sure you understand what you want out of a arrangement and tell the lady what your looking for and be prepared for a lot of rejection not all the ladies on here are looking for what you want so be perpared to go through a lot to find the right one lastly relax this is suppose to be fun there are nice ladies here that want to be with you but it does take a bit of work to find them good luck in your search

    • FormerAnon says:

      Here is the number one mistake I think that all parties both male and female make on this site. The expectation that this site provides a quick way to offer up a check box list of likes and dislikes and common interest and then BAM!….Arrangement!!.

      The reality is this site is little different than many other “dating sites” with the exception of one thing that SHOULD BE (but is not always) clear and that is one party expects to be pampered and taken care of to a degree and that neither party has expectations of the arrangement becoming a long term relationship. This is not always the case, but it would take IMO a large amount of very poor communication on behalf of both parties for this to not be clear. Of course there are the liars, cheats, scammers ect just like in ANYTHING dating related or real world related.

      This site screws themselves and their users when it promotes the idea that it is all “easy street” and making an arrangement is as simple as a few emails and come coffee and an arrangement is made.

      Lets compare and contrast this site to a traditional dating site shall we. Traditional dating sites you have men pretending that they are looking for a long term relationship and women pretending as though they are looking to move slowly in a relationship and to let it build before there is a great deal of “expectations” (pressure to us guys).

      The reality is there are a lot of guys that will say or do anything to get into her pants and then after a few times of that they never return calls or take her out again. Sadly for the women there are many women on these sites that will pretty literally toss “it” in your face and then as a male when you do what males do and have sex with her well suddenly your phone is “exploding”, she is showing up at the places you hang out with friends unexpectedly like she is your wife or GF, she is knocking on your door 20 minutes after you are home from work and if you nicely let her know that you were very clear the other night that sex after 2 dates does not mean you are headed down a 6 month path to marriage her reaction is either to offer to have more sex right then and there or she freaks out and gets angry at you.

      Now let me be clear these are generalizations and there ARE nice men and nice sane women that do not use their hooha as a tool for barter and men that can resist the urge to “hook up” if they know it will create false expectations or if they have decided the relationship is not heading anywhere long term and sex will make her believe it is. But the point being it takes A HELL OF A LOT OF WORK to find those individuals in a sea of buffoonery on those dating sites. Those dating sites are not just “list out what you like and don’t like and “match””.

      THE SAME THING APPLIES HERE. The difference is here a male expects the female to be somewhat younger, she should have less baggage or she should be able to compartmentalize her baggage and unload it on her BF, friend with benefits, her cat, her mom or anyone else but her SD. The SD has the expectation of sex being there and little or no baggage and expectations )other than allowance and pampering) attached to it and no longer term expectations.

      BUT AGAIN BECAUSE OF POOR MARKETING OF THIS SITE and because of the general nature of some people to be full of BS you still have to WORK to weed through he freaks and geeks and to find something that works for you.

      Some people simply do not do well with “long term”, some people simply are not in a position in their life where ling term will work because they are too busy with work, they know their life will change after they complete their education, they are unhappy with the types of people they meet in “age appropriate” or “traditional” dating scenes yet they still enjoy the company of the opposite sex especially when they do have time to recreate or dine out or go out for entertainment.

      Hopefully two people can weed through the BS (just like on match or POF or EHarmony) and the poor marketing of this site and those sites and find something that works, BUT IT WILL TAKE EFFORT which is the truth these sites will NOT tell.

      She is tired of the broke, drunken, tribal armbanded, flat bill hatted, food engorging, money sucking dude brah……he is tired of the clingy, clock ticking, baggage carrying, desperate single 40yo with 2 kids and a crisis of the week.

      But alas because of the poor marketing and the lies of this site you have the $200 pay to play fake SD and the 19yo “princess” with the chastity belt that only comes off for the tribal armbanded dude brah after she has a few (dozen) fru fru drinks that she had to buy for herself (along with his brewskies) at the bar. So now you need to weed through THEM to get what you desire.

      The point is it will still take work now you are just weeding through a different pool of the same types looking to misrepresent themselves in a different way.

      • Anonymous says:

        Did you really have to waste all those 0s and 1s to say pretty much NOTHING?

        The bottom-line is that if this site stopped egging on women with idiotic ideas…then the female-to-male ratio would drop–say from 8-to-1 to 2-to-1–but more arrangements would be made.

  71. Anonymous says:

    Interesting observations about “British sense of misery (err ‘humour’)”

    [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1581251/British-humour-dictated-by-genetics.html]
    [http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1581252/US-writer-sees-Britons-happy-when-miserable.html]

    • Kore13 says:

      A superficial and narrow-minded article.

      Here’s a link to some of the Rod Martin’s (the scientist they mentioned in the first link) publications:

      [http://www.humoursummerschool.org/01/articlesNhandouts/PosPsych.pdf]

      I found the bit about coping with stress important.

      I live in a place not too unlike the one described in your second link. Still, it’s a question of getting to know the people.

      • Kore13 says:

        Sorry, posted the wrong link.

        [http://www.researchgate.net/profile/Rod_Martin/publications]

      • Anonymous says:

        @Kore,

        What’s the purpose of providing these links?

      • Kore13 says:

        FFS to prove that the Brits might not be schadenfreudig. Rather that they laugh about painful things in an attempt to better deal with them.

      • Anonymous says:

        No…they are miserable because they are not able to invade others’ lands as they used to be able to with impunity, and their kings and queens are powerless.

      • Kore13 says:

        I know you’re bitter about the Brits. It’s ok.

  72. FlyBoy says:

    Perfect Arrangement! Only a beta would think of such a ridiculous concept.

    Cheers :)

  73. CuteAsPi says:

    What a very interesting concept. I’d like to see how business structure progresses…

    • CuteAsPi says:

      …how this* business…

      Is there no editing a comment?

    • rembodler says:

      @CuteAsPi
      seems the consensus here is that the “business structure” would not progress too far any time soon.
      And yes, editing would be nice – at least for people like you who dare to sign into a chat using their genuine profiles.

  74. flyer says:

    This topic sounds like lives of the flakey and flatulence ………………………… If you are desperate and dumb enough to fork over this type of cash to SA you deserve what you get.

  75. Riviera says:

    Latest email:
    Her: Is it okay if I ask you a personal question? I understand if you wish not to answer, but why are you a SD?
    Me: I was in a 14 year relationship that ended when my partner left me when I had cancer, when I recovered she wanted to comeback. Most women my age are basket cases after divorces, women that would normally be in your dating zones i.e. 35 plus are panicking looking to find the one, the father of their child, I don’t want to date the female equivalent of me, I attracted to those that aren’t attracted to me, those that are attracted to me I am not attracted to, I prefer Sundays in bed not in Ikea or Homebase (the hot dogs and meat balls sometimes make up for it), you can do kinky things in an arrangement…. The list is endless…
    Her: Isn’t it emotionally damaging though knowing that someone simply wants to use you and doesn’t really care about you as a person? That everything they do is simply a means to an end, and they will feign empathy and kindness simply to get their hands on your money? Are you really happy and content with that?
    Me:You screen those out, you find someone you can build a rapport with.

    I should have said fuck yeah, If they are hot! But she is more “personality” than good looking…

    • Riviera says:

      I also realize that most hot girls are fakes/scammers/rinsers now that I use Google reverse image search or Tin-Eye. All those years thinking I had just missed out on a Unicorn…

    • Anonymous says:

      Your answers are way too long. I would have said “I gots money, I wants me some young tail”. And No, my feelings will not be hurt anymore than your pussy will be.

  76. THEATLSD says:

    The Tumblr and Instagram babes should be raving over the new PA site since they all want a whale or unicorn. They can now fight over the 5 SD that will be on the VIP pages.

  77. Anonymous says:

    @Kore13

    “@Riviera ? I love the British sense of humour!”

    Just another cliche…

    What is the “British sense of humour”?

    The British “sense of humour” is to make fun of non-English and hoping that no one notices that they are ridiculing non-English.

  78. Anonymous says:

    Search for Iamyourprincess

    WTF?

    • Riviera says:

      What’s wrong with that? I have seen far worse…

    • Anonymous says:

      I saw that profile. Yeah I have seen worse. Makes you kinda scratch your head though. Are there really SD’s out there going for that type?
      I doubt if they would be successful in match.com or eharmony. So why would anyone provide her with a monthly allowance?

  79. NotMarkyMark says:

    Here’s an interesting bit:

    Her Profile:
    About Me

    I prefer natural over fake. I’m old , can’t compete with all these super hot young chicks running around, and I am always 2nd best.

    What I’m looking for

    Simple. I have no clue. Nothing seems to work out anyways.

    Here is our interaction! I’m 59. She’s 28.

    ME: Hi! Not everyone is looking for young and hot. Those girls are usually inexperienced and flaky. I much prefer someone a little older, with a bit of experience, a vivid imagination, and wanting to please and be pleased. Is that you?

    HER: It is, but I guess then here is the part where I am a jerk :p I guess as much as I complain about things I too have preferences and an age range that usually does not go any higher than 50-55….and that can be rare depending on the guy. See how much of a jerk I am? Isn’t that always the way it seems though. But thank you for the message :)

    HER: You seem very nice from your profile and again I appreciate the message. Similar qualities but I guess I just stick to my age range (which is a lot more than most girls actually).

    ME: You’re not being a jerk, perhaps not tremendously open-minded, just discriminating. I’m not so sure about the age limit you are imposing on other women. I have encountered that mind-set less than a handful of times. Nearly all the women are receptive to men my age. But I understand your preference and I understand your lost opportunity.

    HER: You do not have to be so unkind towards me and I think it is better I would never have been with you. You can’t say I am allowed to have preferences and then tell me I am discriminating and not open-minded when you have only have read two small messages from me (it is also very contradictory). If so many women were open to that, then you would have someone by now. If all I wanted was money then I could have easily been with tons of guys. You seem insecure and decided to take a jab at me in return. I do not even have a clue what you mean that I imposed an age limit on other women. They can do whatever the heck they want. I have just noticed that, up until now, I have never really gone for anyone over 55. You seem devoid of logic. I really do not think I lost anything with you, you have a bad attitude.

    Then she blocked me

    • Anonymous says:

      She was decent and respectful. You were being an ass.

    • Anonymous says:

      she seemed like an idiot to me, and yes, she was close minded, im not in my 50’s, but is there a big difference between 55 and 59?

      • Anonymous says:

        Is there a big difference between 50 and 54?

        Is there a big difference tween 45 and 50?

        Is there a big difference between 40 and 44?

        People have their own jacked up ideas…respect and move on.

      • NotMarkyMark says:

        Especially to someone who is 28.

      • Anonymous says:

        Oh I get it. Since she’s 28…any age over that number should be all the same to her as she has “expired”?

      • Anonymous says:

        My friend…if someone is respectful then you respect their choices whatever the heck they are…and move on.

      • SB TVC15 says:

        It’s not a big difference to me, but obviously it is to her, and she’s got as much right to stick to her preferences as any SD. Mark should have just accepted that, and he was doing fine until “I understand your lost opportunity” (kinda whiny).

        Having said that, she overreacted. But wasn’t her profile the first clue she was a bit neurotic?

      • Kore13 says:

        “My friend…if someone is respectful then you respect their choices whatever the heck they are…and move on.”

        I think the same, but I don’t get how you think he was being disrespectful.

        Besides, “Nearly all the women are receptive to men my age,” I don’t see what was rude in his reply.

      • DontlikeSDterm says:

        On Match in my area, it is virtually impossible to date women in their 40’s — even if they’re 48, they don’t want to date anyone over 49. In contrast, its much easier on Match (and more so on OKCupid) to date women in the 25-35 range who are more open to dating guys in their early 50’s compared to women in their 40’s.

        I’ve gotten a couple of emails from women in the 40-45 range that say they don’t think they could deal with the age difference with a 52 year old. I thought about saying … I get it, I usually date women in their 20’s but every once in while reach outside of the range in search of more meaning …

    • rembodler says:

      @NotMarky
      You are wasting your time arguing with the @anon. No harm in that and you can go on. Just as soon as you know. She is just looking for an opportunity to say something nasty.
      I do this myself sometimes, argue with anons here. I have to be at the computer, with little to do (part of my job description is to sit here and do nothing most of the time – as soon as my employer thinks that a few minutes I am actually being productive are worth it).
      Women normally (with some rare exceptions, like Jay…;-) have no clue what logic is, but they love to be argumentative.
      It is clear to most people who have to be logical (that is how men come up with $$$ to support the enterprise) who won and who lost the argument.
      And so it goes.

      • Anonymous says:

        @rem

        Do you think that a 28 year-old was respectful to a 59 year-old who was disrespecting her, or was that the other way around?

      • NotMarkyMark says:

        How exactly did I disrespect her?? I thought I was rather gentle.

      • Kore13 says:

        @NotMarkyMark You used the word, ‘discriminating’ and she took it the wrong way.

      • NotMarkyMark says:

        Oh..sorry for having a vocabulary.

      • Kore13 says:

        @rembodler Maybe where you live.

      • Kore13 says:

        @NotMarkyMark Having a vocabulary is fine, but not everyone interprets it the same way. I would’ve realized what you meant and wouldn’t have reacted the same way.

        I have to agree with the other poster. It’s probably better to stay away from her if she is so unstable that she can’t realize that you didn’t mean it as an insult.

      • NotMarkyMark says:

        @kore13 No problems there. She blocked me before I could respond to her diatribe.

      • Kore13 says:

        @NotMarkyMark She’ll have to think over this without your help then – she’s brought it onto herself.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Remmy xoxoxo high praise coming from you :-))

    • Riviera says:

      I would have moved on from the polite “fuck off”…

      • Riviera says:

        Having checked out her profile, I wouldn’t have emailed such a plain Jane with the personality and spirit of Eeyore…

        A touch of make up wouldn’t hurt either…

    • Kore13 says:

      Actually, this reminds me of Jay. Misinterpreting things and then getting emotional about it while struggling to stay logical.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Lol I love it ! Why is that the people I could careless about are the ones who just can’t help seeking my attention. I’m flattered that I mean so much to you. Ha emotional indeed.

      • Kore13 says:

        Actually, I was just trying my hand at how you’ve been towards me.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        LMAO you’re so delusional. It’s almost making you interesting.
        :-))

    • Anonymous says:

      Her profile makes it sound she is bitter. She thinks she is old at 28 and she can’t compete with the younger SB’s. She says she has no clue what she wants and nothing works out for her anyway. So I am not surprised your conversation with her turned sour. There seems to be lots of emotional baggage. I personally don’t think 28 is “old” to be a SB

    • THEATLSD says:

      Sounds like you were talking to my sister.

    • historicgal says:

      Wow, and here I thought I was being a bitch for telling the guy who asked for naked selfies in the first message to go fly a kite.

      But I do agree, what more could you expect when the profile starts out with a complaint? Maybe it’s not her age, but her attitude that makes her come in 2nd.

      • Riviera says:

        Guess what most potential SB’s private photos are?

      • Riviera says:

        Your personal pin-up – Most pin up’s when I was younger before they became non PC where naked centrefolds. Maybe change your profile name to lower expectations?

      • Kore13 says:

        @Riviera Really? They have nudes in their private pictures? Also showing face?

      • Riviera says:

        Topless with face, full nudes without head, maybe model or boudoir photos with face, lot’s of asses – especially if of a certain race.

      • Kore13 says:

        Hmm… Are there more Brit girls with nudes? The 3 SDs that have asked me for some were all Brit.

      • Kore13 says:

        I’ve had minimal contact with Americans, but the few Aussies weren’t demanding like this either. The non native English speakers were also not.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        I don’t demand nudes, but I do request (or expect on SA) revealing pics i.e. lingerie, bikini etc. I received one pic on WhatsApp from a professional who looked hot clothed but would have to pay me if naked…

  80. Anonymous says:

    Why many men and women think that all pussies are the same?

  81. Riviera says:

    Who will I contact?
    Option 1 :
    Meet at a hotel or somewhere secure at least every two weeks. Would loved to be pampered. I’m up for anything. Message me x

    Option 2 :
    I’m not a escort so don’t bother emailing me a price for ‘one night’. I’m looking for someone who will provide me with companionship and knowledge in exchange for my company.

    Hmmm, decisions decisions?

    • Anonymous says:

      bang #1 while still shopping for better if you like

    • anonymousSSSD says:

      #2 is quite demanding, isn’t she? Lol!

      • Riviera says:

        She is still seeking a substantial allowance, even if I do take her to Pizza Hut with a copy of the encyclopedia Britannica…

      • Jose says:

        Shaking my head at these women who think we should pay thousands of dollars for the pleasure of my company. They can’t give me investment advice like Warren Buffett. They can’t discuss theoretical physics like Stephen Hawking. I doubt if they bring a violin and play classical music for me. They can’t discuss sports like an ESPN nalyst. So what is so expensive about their company?

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        What the?

      • SB TVC15 says:

        Then go hang out with Buffett, Hawking, and Perlman instead. Nobody’s stopping you (except maybe their bodyguards).

      • Anonymous says:

        Women must be paid to breathe. That’s what Oprah says, no?

      • SB TVC15 says:

        Nobody’s making anybody pay anybody for anything. If you don’t like it, you can walk — which some posters here seem to keep forgetting.

      • Anonymous says:

        Nobody’s making anybody post shit on the blog. If you don’t like it, you can walk — which some posters here seem to keep forgetting.

      • SB TVC15 says:

        Oh, but I *do* like skewering the obtuse! No complaints here! 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        I know that you have a pretty intimate relationship with shit that you like to stir again and again and again and again…

      • Kore13 says:

        @Riviera 😀 I love the British sense of humour!

      • SB TVC15 says:

        I prefer to think of it as puncturing over-inflated balloons. But you pick whatever analogy makes you happy. :)

      • Anonymous says:

        Lmfao @SB TVC15!

      • SouthernSB says:

        @Jose-What are you looking for the talent winner at the Miss America Pageant?

  82. Anonymous says:

    Asking women for nudes is loads of fun.

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      Especially since you’ve already shared that it’s the needy who send nudes.

      You kinda suck a little bit, anonymous.

    • Anonymous says:

      Needy is where things happen. Man’s needy for pussy and pussy’s needy for his resources.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Do you have a need to be boastful of your exploits of said needy women?

      • SB TVC15 says:

        Looks that way!

      • Anonymous says:

        If it was not so sad I would laugh :( A guy bragging about paying desperate women to stand being in his company? #Supersad

      • Anonymous says:

        If you think that young women are meeting older men because they love their company, you are delusional.

      • Anonymous says:

        If you think that independently rich men have the burning desire to show up at a 9-5 job, then you are delusional as well.

        Some may like to do some kind of work but you will have to be very careful dealing with them. They can throw in the towel whenever they wanted.

      • Kore13 says:

        “If you think that young women are meeting older men because they love their company, you are delusional.”

        Older people, men and women, have more knowledge in general than people of my own age. I wouldn’t mind meeting them for their company.

      • Anonymous says:

        @kore, even though you write stupid shit most of the time…you are a good woman at heart. FWIIW…I respect that. :)

      • Kore13 says:

        Thanks, Anon. I know that the following I’ve said has been stupid:

        Women emotionally abuse men sometimes and take advantage of being the ‘weaker’ sex.
        SBs aren’t clever for bargaining the allowance.
        Men that say stupid things for no good reason are crappy.
        Etc.

        But I just can’t help it since I don’t think logically, but at least getting approval that I am a good woman really made my day.

      • Anonymous says:

        @kore, really? approval from strangers makes your day?

      • Kore13 says:

        You must think yourself so clever like some of the others here.

      • Anonymous says:

        no, actually it was a serious question

      • TrophyPearl says:

        I’m 55 and had just last week nice date with 29. And she didn’t asked me anything but she says, she very much enjoy our evening and my company! When I asked her about xxx, she replied NO I wanted you so enjoy! So, what you though not always true, if it fate it will happen doesn’t matter of age.
        Cheers

    • historicgal says:

      So is using the block & report button.

  83. Jose says:

    For shits and giggles, I logged onto the Perfect Arrangement website. In the welcome page, the only clickable option is the top of the line VIP $25K package. Any other package, you have to “contact them” and fill out a form. They are really going for the gold on this one.

    • SD says:

      They might sell 2 packages ,but money is money and that will pay one more marketing genius’ salary for the year. Most businesses have an upsell good or service. This is just one of theirs

      • Jose says:

        The website is confusing. This blog says you can buy a “sampler package” for $500. But the website says custom packages start at 5K. If you look at the website, it seems that the only option is 25K. So unless you read this blog, you wouldn’t know there are many several packages starting at $500. The website is pretty plain in my opinion. Needs more bling.

      • Riviera says:

        Hence the new prices post 😉

  84. sugar bitch says:

    Dude I wrote the worst joke on here earlier. To anyone that read it, I apologize. Human trafficking is a major issue in this world today and its no laughing matter, nor something to joke about. Its an issue we are facing and rather serious. Sometimes we say stupid jokes and get caught up with other people’s jokes. I am sorry. I am sorry for all the women voluntarily and involuntarily involved in human trafficking. Major loss of life and all life has intrinsic value. Please excuse my ignorant comment.

    • Jose says:

      No worries. We all know it was a joke. I doubt if anyone here condones human trafficking. Besides, there is a very good chance that if you participate in it, Liam Neeson is gonna find you, and then he’s gonna kill you.

      • Kore13 says:

        😀

      • sugar bitch says:

        Thanks for accepting my apology. It is kind of a sick joke, but its like the kid that jokes about bringing a gun to school and one day actually does it. You never know who is reading and who might get carried away with these hypothetical ideas.

      • sugar bitch says:

        SA “put me on a corner” of there website once upon a time. I got offered trips. Luckily all the men were ethical and nobody made me do anything I did not want to do. I am a high risk taker. I took the trips that looked good to me, not for money, but for adventure.

        What about the MissTravel website. These websites are somewhat dangerous.

      • sugar bitch says:

        On a brighter note, I had blast in New Zealand and Argentina, but an awful time in Uruguay. He was married! I had no idea. I am not going to be a homewrecker ever!

      • Kore13 says:

        @sugar bitch His home’s probably wrecked already anyway. If it hadn’t been you, it would’ve been someone else.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        What if sleeping with a married man stabilizes the home?

        Sometimes?

        Anyone?

      • Anonymous says:

        this blog has hit rock bottom with the new usual characters

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        If you think this is rock bottom, you ain’t seen nothin’. Huhn uhn…you haven’t.

      • Kore13 says:

        @yougottabekiddingme 😀 I leave that up to the SD to decide.

      • THEATLSD says:

        @YGBKM
        THere is a whole logic to the “it can help the marriage” theory. If done right one could have the best of both worlds.

  85. SD says:

    I really like kissing

    How do you all feel about it in the early phase of an arrangement before feeling all soft and fuzzy about each other ?

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Do you guys just have sex with out kissing? If you can’t bring yourself to kiss someone you probably shouldn’t be sleeping with them. For me the kiss determines whether it moves beyond that or not. If you’re a horrible kisser or there’s no spark when we do then that’s pretty much it for me.

    • Kore13 says:

      @SD Not so much during much the early phase. I don’t have a kiss drive, so I reserve that for the people I feel more intimate with.

      • SD says:

        I find Kissing so much more intimate than fucking-but I do like the total body contact from stem to stern. Many SB -bloggettes anyway –seem to come from more of a BF type of relationship. That is -got to feel the chemistry,fall in lust, then take it to the next level . All that is fine and dandy but guys–this guy anyway -just want to connect as many dots in as many holes as possible .

      • SD says:

        I recommend faking it if you can’t get into it . A fav previous SB I was crazy about did not like to kiss -me at least . She had everything I wanted except for that . When she asked for a raise I might have done if she connected a little more emotionally .

      • Anonymous says:

        More than one Pot SBs tell me that sex is fine but no kissing . They are saving that for their BF.

      • Anonymous says:

        im fine with no kissing as long as anal is available

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I guess if you’re just in it for the money than it makes sense

      • Reb. says:

        Plus, it is really rare to find an older man who knows how to kiss properly.
        One guy would literally LICK my face. I never ever open my mouth to French kiss these guys because their tongue will never leave your mouth then.
        One would hold onto my mouth like a dramatic 1920’s movie kiss and would not move his lips for 15+ seconds. I would feel like I was suffocating.
        I did have a SD who was an amazing kisser. Never shoved his tongue in my mouth or licked my face. It was a dream.

      • Kore13 says:

        @SD I agree that kissing is much more intimate than sex in a way.

        @Jay Believe it or not, you can care about a person without kissing them the first few dates!

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Kore = Promise reincarnated

      • Kore13 says:

        Jay, is it that hard for you to accept that I might not be a superficial bimbo? I’m sure you’ve looked at my profile and it’s obvious you’ve been following my comments… Still, your posts are vicious.

        You’ve just been misintrepreting my comments then criticizing me for it, then reposting what I’d said in other words.

        If I don’t feel like kissing people because I reserve some degree of intimacy for the those I bond with (takes more than the first date!), I don’t understand how you jump to the conclusion that I’m in it just for the money! If I cared only about that, I would say it flat out or whine about not getting enough like other girls.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Kore for some reason you seem to think that I spend my time posting about you. Except for the last comment I made about you being Promise reincarnated, I have yet to address you or respond to any of your post on this blog. And the last one was only because you called me out directly about something no one was talking about. Who said anything about caring about people? We were talking about kissing in an arrangement.

        I don’t find you interesting enough to warrant the amount of attention you think I’m giving you. My comment about the money was in reference to this post

        “More than one Pot SBs tell me that sex is fine but no kissing . They are saving that for their BF.”

        In the future if you don’t see an @Kore next to my comment then it’s not directed at you.

      • anonymousSSSD says:

        No kissing? That’s escort talk right there.

      • Kore13 says:

        @Jay Fine, but you’ve already discussed with me without putting @Kore in front of it – not just this last comment, just so you know.

      • Kore13 says:

        @anonymousSSSD Have you given an allowance to a girl for just kissing and not having had sex with her?

      • Kore13 says:

        Also, I haven’t said that I would never kiss a SD. Just that it takes time for me to do that – whether it’s with a SD or with a potential boyfriend doesn’t make a difference.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @KORE Copy and paste when I’ve discussed anything with you on this current blog and I’ll gladly acknowledge my mistake. I had already decided to minimize interactions with you on the last blog. Just because you think I’m talking to you doesn’t make it so. After this I’ll go back to ignoring your post.

        I have to go deal with an idiot who doesn’t know it’s illegal not pay people for the hours they work because he doesn’t want to pay overtime.

      • Anonymous says:

        Kore13
        @anonymousSSSD Have you given an allowance to a girl for just kissing and not having had sex with her?

        That’s the kiss of death right there

      • Kore13 says:

        @Jay No, I will not waste my time doing that – it doesn’t make much of a difference to me

      • Kore13 says:

        And yes, please ignore my posts – I’ve already made it clear that I don’t like your trolling. Of course, if you bitch about me, don’t be surprised that I reply, whether you write @kore in your post or not.

      • BorisBalkan says:

        Kissing a sugarbaby? Wow, what a concept!

    • SD says:

      @Reb

      That is a good point . There are some girls whose kissing style just fits with mine –and others’ who are a struggle . Each to his/her own but I like a slightly open mouth turned at a 75 degree angle to each other -firmly applied with an occasional flicker of tongue and a nibble in between kisses.

      My current SB opens her mouth wide and I just about fall in. A couple needas to train each other to adapt to our Kissing style . I guess there’s no right or wrong way . My slender Caucasian lips sadly do not fit my AA lover’s luscious wide and full lips .

      Here’s a question . Do you all think that all lip sizes can “fit” all others, or is there an anatomical pairing that just doesn’t work ?

      • Reb. says:

        Lip size does not matter, in my experience. The best SD kisser I had was a man with barely ANY lips haha.

      • SD says:

        Ah that’s good to know !

      • Kore13 says:

        So long as there’s lip to nibble on, it’s fine. What I found made a difference to me was the firmness. It was with a girl who had very firm lips and it was a total turn off. I’ve never kissed a man with lips that firm, so I can’t tell if it was because of gender or just the firmness.

  86. Kore13 says:

    PA does offer more confirmation – the SB knows the SD has the money, the SD knows that the SB looks the way she does. They would’ve been better off using this here on SA.

    • no name says:

      iagree kore thats what this good for it does show the sugar daddy has money but a sugar daddy is not going to add this expense on top of the allowance he pays a sugar baby so that means at 500 a pop this comes out of a sugar babies allowance if hes paying 51k a year like SA is claiming thats not a big deal but some on here are claiming they spend 1000 a month that would be a serious bite out of a ladies allowance

      • Kore13 says:

        @No name I figure a SD who doesn’t have that much to dispose won’t want to switch to PA.

        It seems the PA approach is pay per meet. I don’t understand why they didn’t eliminate the ‘negotiable’ budget option if they do the match making for you.

      • Kore13 says:

        @SD You put in financial parameters (example: 2k/4 meets max = 500/meet) and they find the SBs that match that. There doesn’t have to be any negotiation from either SB or SD.

        It’d be much more hassle free to have this information on hand before a person has to ‘waste’ time chatting only to decline offers.

        The way they’ve set it up, they’re inviting the SBs from SA to PA, and these will probably continue to demand what they are here… The SBs who care primarily about the money will probably continue to think that bargaining is an option. It shouldn’t be that way. I prefer the take it or leave it approach for the dicussed expections.

      • Kore13 says:

        The SD can calculate for himself what budget he can afford after subtracting activity costs because I doubt that will interest the SB if all she’s after is the allowance. It’d be better, then, to just adjust the budget amount.

      • no name says:

        kore from what i can see its not a pay per meet the sb doesn’t get any money from the fee it seems their arranging a meet and greet where the 2 of you have to work something out after the date

      • Kore13 says:

        @no name Even better. So they want how much for scanning through the SA database on the SD’s behalf?

      • Kore13 says:

        They just want to have no part in the money issues so they can’t be held legally accountable for anything if things go wrong.

  87. FormerAnon says:

    I am going to start a service where I get an old white van and for between $500 and $3,000 I will ask you your preference in streetwalker/prostitute and then I will drive around in the creepy van and pick up a selection of streetwalker/prostitutes for you to choose from and even give you and your selected concubine a ride to the nearest low rent motel.

    I am also taking investors to get in on the ground floor of what I think will be a great franchise opportunity.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I might be interested in investing…What do you anticipate your start up cost to be? Who’s your target market and how do you plan to reach them? What percentage of the market do you believe you’d be able to lure away from traditional sources for this service that already exist? And how do you plan to circumvent any legal hurdles? You’ll need a really catchy name. Have you thought of any?

      • Sugar bitch says:

        I could be your supplier. Casinos in Jaco has wide, varied selection, USA business laws need not apply. Hooking is tolerated and tax free!

      • Sugar bitch says:

        Just kidding, this is really a terrible joke. Shit.

      • FormerAnon says:

        Startup cost will be about $10,000 to $12,000 basically whatever I can get the creepy white vans for and then I will add on $3,000 to the price for the franchise fees and $2,000 for the wrap for the van

        Target market is any horny male with money burning a whole in their pocket. Better if they are inebriated at the time so they will not want to take the risk of driving the streets themselves. I will also target craigslist and backpage users and other WWW prostitution site users.

        For the legal issue I am not conducting any actual prostitution or any illegal activities I am a “matchmaking service” and any agreement between the parties involved is between them.

        I was thinking HoVan, HoesOnTheGo, GoForHoes, HoHookUp, HoMatch

        The creepy white vans will also have the advertising on the side in the wrap like the vans that drive around the Vegas Strip with the girls to your room and of course the 800 number to call.

      • FormerAnon says:

        Also a 7% monthly payment of all sales will be turned over by each franchise owner as well. down the road I hope to have something like HoUber where the hoes give the corners they are standing on and the johns have their location and perhaps they can even have a “facetime” and then I can round them up and match them even easier.

      • Kore13 says:

        @FormerAnon I like the names you suggested, but it has to be more vague.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I think your budget for the white van is a little high. If it’s going to be wrapped then the exterior conditions don’t have to be that great. You should be able to get a van for at least $4,000-$5,000 cheaper. Then you can charge the franchises the same $15,000-$17,000 you initially quoted and increase your profit margins from $3,000 to $9,000+

        Your marketing method will work for now but you should look into investing in a mobile app, so there’s a direct link to your target customers without having to go through 3rd party websites. I like HoesOnTheGo it has nice ring to it.

        I would suggest that all transaction for the franchises be processed through a corporate owned and operated site so we can keep an accurate accounting on how much money each franchise is actually making. We don’t want to be short changed when it’s time to collect our 7%

    • Anonymous says:

      We laugh but it is not a bad idea. “Van Go” is already taken . Why not use “Van Cum” ? The clients would have to be id’d so LE wouldn’t have too easy a time stinging them .

      • no name says:

        i was thinking of ho’s on wheels but im sure thats taken too

      • sugar bitch says:

        Dude I wrote the worst joke on here earlier. To anyone that read it, I apologize. Human trafficking is a major issue in this world today and its no laughing matter, nor something to joke about. Its an issue we are facing and rather serious. Sometimes we say stupid jokes and get caught up with other people’s jokes. I am sorry. I am sorry for all the women voluntarily and involuntarily involved in human trafficking. Major loss of life and all life has intrinsic value. Please excuse my ignorant comment.

    • anonymousSSSD says:

      Ha! This idea reminds me of the bang bus videos.

  88. Anonymous says:

    Why do men like blowjobs?

  89. FatB'StardSA says:

    I have a feeling that the $500 plan will work very well for SA.

    A lot of SD’s who sign up on SA have little success. In the past, many SD would give up and leave SA after 3-6 months of disappointment. Perfect Arrangement offers these SD’s a final “hail mary pass” and SA gets to suck an additional $500 out of the SD.

    • Bartolo says:

      What is the evidence for this?

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        You would not be posting on the blog if you had an easy time getting an arrangement. That is all the evidence I need.

        Have a nice day :-).

    • no name says:

      fatB why do you say a lot of SD would give up after little sucessin 3 to 6 months i don’t know what the sucess ratio is for sugar daddies on this site but it seems strange you wooldn’t have sucees on here with so many ladies on here even if you don’t look like brad pitt many ladies don’t care as long as you treat them well and are generous

    • The 3-6 month disappointment span has been echoed by men Ive spoken with. “I wont be renewing my membership,” is a common claim. One was going to throw in the towel after one month, but SA offered him a 3-month package, so he went with it. Have done SB searches in several different areas, and the waters seem pretty rough :/. The numbers game isnt doing much for the quality of this site. Have been told that there are lots of women with drug addictions and unfortunate psychological struggles sprinkled amidst cam girls, catfish, desperadas (first meet: “I need money for my phone bill” :/), and brazen ladies of the night.

      • no name says:

        yougottabekiddingme i know there’s a lot of garbage on here but i think of it as panning for gold you have to go through a lot of gravel to find a nugget of gold its a numbers game just keep trying until you find the right one if your truly wealthy instead of a pretend sd you don’t need this site men have been getting younger women for ages long before they thought of these websites

      • I think I get what you mean.

        Will have to disagree, though, with your opinion that if one is truly wealthy or a real SD, he wouldnt be on this site. There are many reasons why one with abundant means or attractive attributes would be on the site. Your comment could very well be juxtaposed with the statement, “If a woman was a real class act or SB of beauty and substance, she wouldnt be on this site.” If both hold true, then what is anyone, including you, doing here?

      • no name says:

        yougottabekiddingme i was refering to the sugar daddies that said they were ready ready to quit here i still don’t understand why their having a hard time i met many nice ladies on here but if their wealthy they can get one off the site if they can’t find one here as for me your right i don’t need to be here but i work a lot so this saves me time so far this has worked well for me

      • no name says:

        yougottabekiddiddingme im sorry if i sounded cold hearted its my hope that anyone that joins the site finds a arrangement that makes them happy it can be difficult at times to find that right one so i can see how someone can get discouraged but no one needs to be here were here because we want to be the idea is to find a arrangement that enhances both parties lifes and makes them both better off than they were before

    • anonymousSSSD says:

      @Fat bastard….Quite frankly, you have to be either completely broke, a complete idiot or an ugly fat troll not to have success as a SD on here

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        Now that you have thrown down there gauntlet why not post the profiles of SB’s you have had arrangements with for everyone to see how successful you are.

      • Riviera says:

        I also disagree, I have had two arrangements that both lasted over two years. When I found one on SA in 2006 we both knew what was expected and everyone I met did too. Now girls want virtual/online arrangements, to sell photos, to cam, platonic arrangements, to scam and con, to rinse and lead you. Now we have Fin Doms, and Princesses. Now trying to find someone, say a degree educated sales person that is bubbly and confident, intelligent, relatively attractive, easy going and caring is as rare as a Unicorn…

  90. Reb. says:

    Just got a (first) message from a guy saying I should get a “real job” and not ask for an allowance…. on a sugar daddy website.

    *Sigh*.. the future of SA, again.

    • SB TVC15 says:

      Classic. Next he’ll go on Grindr and complain because everyone’s gay.

    • FatB'StardSA says:

      @Reb

      SD’s like to mentor the women on the site and he was helping you by telling you that, based on your profile and photos, it is not worth your time trying to be a SB.

      Nothing wrong with some constructive feedback!

      Have a nice day :-).

    • no name says:

      reb sorry you met a jerk on here im sure your a classy lady that will do fine without him

    • Anonymous says:

      Good one @Fat.

      @Reb needs reality check from time to time. 😉

    • Kore13 says:

      @Reb. You must’ve written something on your profile that made him say this.

      As for work – every job is important and it’s important that people do them.

      • SB TVC15 says:

        “You must’ve written something on your profile that made him say this.”

        Yeah, because men never send idiotic messages to women on the internet just because they feel like it.

      • Kore13 says:

        @SB TVC15 I haven’t gotten one on SA so far – not even close, which is why I said that. I didn’t realize that there were poop-for-brains SDs that took the time to spam SBs for no good reason.

      • SB TVC15 says:

        Well, now you do. :)

      • Kore13 says:

        @SB TVC15 Either way, if I’d written what my occupation was and it attracted messages like that, I’d consider removing it from my profile. I don’t know what else the SD meant by finding a ‘real’ job.

      • I once got a message from a completely bogus profile. It was quite laughable, actually. Even had a phone number set up with a bogus voicemail greeting. Can only image the types of voicemail messages that have gone through that voicemail. Am sure someone somewhere is laughing quite heartily.

      • SB TVC15 says:

        Kore, you’re not getting it. Reb never said she wrote her occupation on her profile. Some men are simply offended by the very idea of sugar babies and take it upon themselves to educate us in the error of our ways. In other words, a troll trolled Reb because that’s what trolls do.

      • SB TVC15 says:

        YGBKM: You must have written something on your profile that made him send you a fake message from a fake profile with a fake voicemail greeting. Remember, when a man harasses a woman, it’s always the woman’s fault.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        careful SB TVC you’ll get accused of being a troll :-))

      • Kore13 says:

        @SB TVC15 No, I didn’t get it at first because it doesn’t make sense that a man would pay money and use some of his time writing messages like that. It would only make sense in two cases: She’s written something on her profile that’s very self-entitled. Or he’s got money and even more time to waste.

      • Kore13 says:

        @SB TVC15 And it’s not always the woman’s fault, but I don’t have sympathy for superficiality, harmful jealousy, over emotionality or bat shit craziness.

        Saying things like, “I deserve more because my life is hard right now,” or “you’re rich and I’m not, so just take me shopping,” etc..

        Yes, I’m sceptical when a SB says things sometimes because I can’t always tell what the whole story is from a few sentences. You don’t have to take the opposite extreme and act as if I said that being harassed by a man is ok. It’s most definitely not.

        Harassment is hard to gauge with some girls. Some girls feel harrased by, “you’re sexy,’ just because it came from an unattractive man. If an attractive man says it the same way, it’s a compliment.

  91. VitesseSD says:

    20k for a 10 girl mixer?

    That’s 2k per girl, at that price it had better be an orgy.

  92. Anonymous says:

    If I wanted assistance, I would have hired a virtual assistant to help me with setting up dates for some dollars per hour.

    • Reb. says:

      My ex-SD is a known oil tycoon. His “personal assistant” actually contacted me through the website and would pick out the women he’d meet. When I met him in person, he said he barely knew anything about SA, just that she’d be his match maker. She got paid well..

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Reb

        “She got paid well..”

        Did you meet him on April 1st? His “personal assistant” was probably having a bit of fun with him…

        Have a nice day :-).

      • Kore13 says:

        @FatB’StardSA Why’s it implausible? Money also buys shortcuts.

    • Anonymous says:

      Of course he was an oil tycoon. You wouldn’t dare date a corn tycoon, would you? 😉

    • Anonymous says:

      Check this out: [http://www.pixte.com/749911/20-worst-tourist-photos/20/]

    • no name says:

      if your looking for platonic arrangement you could replace the sugar baby with the virtual assistant and save even more money

  93. anonymousSSSD says:

    This new website will fail. It’s just idiotic.

    • Anonymous says:

      As I said elsewhere, it would not have been idiotic if they genuinely wanted to help those who wanted help.

      However, they intentionally made it difficult for people to make arrangements at SA and then came up with this idiotic service.

      • Reb. says:

        I totally believe Brandon purposely drove SA into the ground just to give PA a fighting chance for more $$. So seedy, Brandon! I would not be surprised if his next website actually made women pay.

    • rembodler says:

      The only way this will work…
      …if they can make a convincing case that one gets access to a completely different pool of SBs that does not overlap with SA. It does not even have to be a “better” pool, just different.
      I doubt they have a new pool to draw from, so…
      …it won’t.

      • Anonymous says:

        Unfortunately, there is no new secret stash of high quality SB’s to draw upon. They are basically cannibalizing SA and hoping to squeeze more juice out of a faltering concept.

      • Reb. says:

        If the pool looks like the women from the SA calendar, PA will never survive.

  94. Reb. says:

    Well, these prices are cheaper than Millionaire Matchmaker Patty. She charges 35k for a mixer and 25 women will be there.

    • Anonymous says:

      Those who want to afford $35,000 don’t hang around here, and you should know by now that most of the SDs who hang around here don’t give a shit about your point of view.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      The difference between Patty and SA is that her service is for traditional dating. Once a match is made the man is expected to pay for dates.

      SA is for sugar they expect you to pay thousands for an introduction and when a match is made you’re expected to pay thousands more for an allowance plus dates and etc.

      That’s one of the many reasons why this will fail. Plus Patty has casting calls where see actually see the person interviews them and makes sure they are what the client is looking for. SA is basicly going to do the same thing you do for yourself look at a bunch of online profiles (without vetting them) and set you up with them.

  95. Traveling Man says:

    These packages are just an SA “Wealthy, Stupid and Lazy” poll!! How many dummies will bite?

  96. Riviera says:

    I haven’t seen this before:
    This member has not entered this information, message them and encourage them to complete their profile.

  97. Jose says:

    The guys who can afford to pay the VIP 25K package will not be found lurking on this website. These guys are so successful in real life they are practically fending off women left and right.

    • Reb. says:

      As a sugar baby, I want other sugar babies to keep assuming that, so there are more rich men for me!! Lol. Trust me, famous people (like movie directors and the like), along with CEOs of giant corporations are on SA. You’d think they wouldn’t risk it, but they do.

      • Still clueless says:

        So goes the urban legend. This would not be the pool they would swim in. It’s just a rumor to help get girls to sign up. Please point out a profile of such a famous person or CEO.

      • Reb. says:

        I mean.. Larry Ellison is a known SA member (although a scammer and creep), he is worth 50 billion. The movie directors/producers were all married. I am not outing them on here.

      • Jose says:

        LOL. Movie directors, yeah right. There are so many starlets and wanna be actresses in Hollywood that a movie director would have no need to go to SA for some action. Have you not heard of the term “casting couch”? And the only CEO’s lurking here are the one’s living in their mother’s basement. SASAThtkindelusionalmyth that SA is propagating to

      • Anonymous says:

        sure@Jose. You sound like you would know, as an assumed poor or average income male member, what high net worth SD’s are, or are not on the site.

      • Anonymous says:

        Not everyone will choose to shit where they eat every time, Jose.

      • Anonymous says:

        You talk of shit? [http://www.pixte.com/749911/20-worst-tourist-photos/20/]

      • Reb. says:

        Jose.. You’re a male and you’re ego is being bruised knowing there are wealthier men on the site, I understand. You may not want to accept that CEOS are on the website, but it is reality.

      • Reb. says:

        your*

      • Still clueless says:

        @Reb. As I said, an urban legend. Ellingson, haha, heard that one before. As for oil tycooon, are there really any of those left anymore? Please point out a profile of any such CEO, movie star, producer, etc. C’mon, there can’t be any problem in showing it here (if it exists) because if they were for real they know it’s in the public domain.

      • Still clueless says:

        *Ellison

      • Jose says:

        Larry Ellison, yeah right. I also heard that Bill Gates, Warren Buffett, Mark Zuckerberg, the Koch brothers, and the entire Walton gang are members of SA. People who are worth billions of dollars and are kinky will not sign up for a public dating website. There is huge underground network known only to a select few that caters to the whims of the ultra rich. They would not risk their identity by signing up on SA.

      • Anonymous says:

        You really are clueless, @stillclueless! Good name pick. ;D Make a fake female profile and find them for yourself, if you are so curious. They are a few here and only clueless asshole idiots would actually ask to ”out” them on the blog.

      • Anonymous says:

        [http://thedirty.com/gossip/hollywood/proof-that-oracle-larry-ellison-is-on-seeking-arrangements/]

  98. Riviera says:

    We need a platonic drop down now. Just spent five days and 80 messages to find out she’s frigid…

    • Jaybird923 says:

      five days and eighty messages and sex/intimacy didn’t get discussed?

      • Riviera says:

        Day one:No i am open to a physical relationship but after we have gotten to know each other first. Im a believer in that the bases of a good relationship is friend.

      • Riviera says:

        I’ve actually just come out of a platonic agreement, some people genuinely just want companionship. Also some sugar babes have more than one sugar daddy at a time. I’m sorry but I don’t think we are on the same page. I hope you find what you’re looking for. x

      • Riviera says:

        I think she is another 3 month girl…

      • Jose says:

        Rinsing 101. Dangle the carrot in front of the SD. Not too far or you will scare him away. Not too close or he may actually physically touch you. Ewwwww.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        That’s wrong. I don’t like the outright deception. It ruins things for the girls who genuinely want to get to know you before becoming intimate.

      • Anonymous says:

        By the way Brandon did come up with Carrot Dating website. LOL!

    • anonymousSSSD says:

      @Riviera…I would have nexted her after that day one msg. That thing was filled with sb code words for “I will never be intimate with you.” Read between the lines mi amigo.

  99. no name says:

    $25000 thats a years worth of allowance for sugar babies from what ive seen on this blog so how much does the SB get if you buy the vip package does she get nothing because you spent it all on a package good luck with this

    • Anonymous says:

      yes, you should always assume the blog speaks the truth and NO sb’s make over $25,000 a year in allowances, according to the really busy ‘sds’ who post here on a consistent basis bragging about how cheaply they pay their ‘sbs’. uh huh, yeah that makes tons of sense!

      • rembodler says:

        Relax, Hon. Take a chill pill maybe?
        We do not assume that “No SB makes over 25,000/year in allowances”.
        All we assume is that a FEW SBs make that.
        I mean real SBs, of course, not blog SBs. And, you, you certainly make a mil.

      • Anonymous says:

        nice ‘spin’ there and way to exaggerate and twist what was said :-))

      • rembodler says:

        …part of my job description.
        You kinda…have to do better than that to win arguments, sugar.

      • Anonymous says:

        Yeah, a REAL SD would be very concerned about ‘winning’ whatever on an arrangement blog. That is very important to his job description. 😉

      • rembodler says:

        You are so very right, Hon.
        “Real SD”, an alpha male, will be watching how his stocks are doing in Hong Kong, checking on his clients or his patients. That sort of thing.
        You, undoubtedly, will know.

    • Anonymous says:

      alpha male and real sugar daddy are not synonymous. Betas or omega males can be sd’s too which is how you are able to try and pretend to be one. 😀

      • rembodler says:

        Honey. U need to take some STEM courses, to add to your women’s studies and feminism history.
        So…you say omegas CAN be sugar daddies? So even if I am an omega, I CAN be a REAL sugar daddy? So… Why would I pretend to be one?
        U r ok, Hon, no worries. As soon as you have a pretty fresh face, perky boobs and a tight pussy. Do not worry about logic, leave this to men…sorry, have to dash, the market in Hong Kong is on the move…

      • Anonymous says:

        It is ok. Reading comprehension and being literate is not for everyone. You are good at writing incoherent make believe stories about Hong Kong tho!

      • Anonymous says:

        …at least I am good at something.
        And if you eat fewer potato chips and join the gym instead of watching daytime TV…You might be able to finally get into that size 20 dress. Good luck!

      • Anonymous says:

        Why do you keep coming back for more embarrassment- must be a masochist. You should get back to Hong Kong now. They need your full attention. 😉

      • Riviera says:

        @ anon

        You just come across as a troll….

      • Anonymous says:

        I think @rembodler brought it on himself by his trolling but dude got ROASTED in the process. Nice roast @Anonymous LOL! The ”SD’s” on the blog lurv to dish it out but cannot take it.

      • SB says:

        #Preach:……………

        It is about time someone said it. I see way too many obnoxious and borderline psycho comments by a few of the so called SD’s on the blog. But, if any of the girls reply back—then they are the trolls? That is funny logic right there.

      • SB says:

        #Preach:…….

        It is about time someone said it. I see way too many obnoxious and borderline psycho comments by a few of the so called SD’s on the blog. But, if any of the girls reply back—then they are the trolls? That is funny logic right there.

      • SB says:

        #Preach:…..

        It is about time someone said it. I see way too many obnoxious and borderline psycho comments by a few of the so called SD’s on the blog. But, if any of the girls reply back—then they are the trolls? That is funny logic right there.

      • Riviera says:

        SB which anon was I referring to? You have already made up your mind lol…

  100. Anonymous says:

    Even though operators are standing by, I sincerely doubt the phones are ringing off the hook with hordes of members credit card in hand. How is the 25K package beneficial to the SD or SB? There is no guarantee the SD will get laid, and the SB will not see one stinking cent of that money. The only person who benefits from this is the website owner.

    • Bartolo says:

      I was assuming that the SB gets some of it.

      • no name says:

        bartolo i was assuming the SB would get some too but ive done some searches on this and it looks like no they don’t but they pay for the date because they select the place where you will meet if the date goes badly you don’t get a refund they just rematch you with someone else

  101. Bartolo says:

    So what the customer is paying for is “first dates.” Obviously, when one looks at the pricing, “first dates” range from $500 down to $300, depending on how many you pay for up front. As others have written, I (and in my case a moderately attractive 56-yr old; no GQ model) can get unlimited first dates in that price range. If I want to. Which I don’t – my first dates are typically coffee dates or glass-of-wine dates that simply assess chemistry. While I treat for coffee or wine, I do not “pay” for said first dates.

    What gentleman cannot do what I do, and needs this service??

    • Anonymous says:

      This is basically “What’s Your Price” except times infinity. I don’t think WYP is doing very well so they have to come up with a new gimmick and put a nice big red bow around it to justify the exorbitant prices under the guise of exclusivity.

      • Riviera says:

        I have chatted to a few girls who are on WYP, they didn’t even get a nibble. Has anyone any positive experiences? And this new site has been going since May?

      • Anonymous says:

        I used to offer $50 at WYP. Got some dates. Then reduced to $40 per meeting. Got some dates. Then reduce to $20 per date. No one has accepted that yet. 😉

      • Riviera says:

        My hot Unicorn neice treats me, although she does tend to bitch and whine. Did you get laid on WYP?

      • historicgal says:

        WYP is an exercise in irritation & fantasy.

        Men make offers, or accept offers, but never “unlock” the date or actually contact a girl to plans.

        The rare few who actually do end up in a date will try to talk their way out of the donation, or conveniently “forget”.

        On top of it all, there is still the risk that they are an inept jerk who spends the entire date telling you how sexy his secretary is.

      • Anonymous says:

        Only one time. The girl was also on SA. 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        Are you sleeping with your niece now? :(

      • Riviera says:

        No my brother would kill me, and ewww 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        @historicgalI used WYP for a short TIME. I never accepted a date for less than $150 and the guys would generally offer $200 to $500 for a first date. Yes, there a few who would never unlock the date, or would try and be creepy in the messages before meeting, but none of the men I met tried to get out of paying the agreed upon date amount after we were on the date. Well, one did through email before the date, but at least he tried before meeting. I would say 50% of the men who sendt decent date offers followed through with the date and paid either before the date started, or after it ended. I met one of my SD’s through WYP.

      • Riviera says:

        How many have you had? You make it sound like a conveyor…

  102. Anonymous says:

    So the VIP package at $25,000 only offers email and phone support from 9-5 Monday to Friday. What should I do if my date won’t suck me off and it is 7:30 pm on a Saturday night? Do I get a partial refund?

    • Anonymous says:

      ROTFLMAO!!!

      For $25,000 they need to have a SA representative hovering around so that if SB does not behave he/she can whisper terms of meeting to them.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Didn’t you see the section about the vouchers? That’s the $30,000 package though. Anytime your date refuses to blow you can redeem a voucher and the matchmaker will.. just keep your fingers that your matchmaker is a woman

      • Anonymous says:

        Hmmm…what are you suggesting? If the date would not do something then the matchmaker will? 😉

      • Jaybird923 says:

        No for $30,000 you get 5 vouchers for blowjobs only. The sex vouchers are included in the $50,000 package and for $100,000 you get one year unlimited vouchers for sex or BJs. They can only be redeemed Monday-Friday 9am-5pm pacific standard time.

      • Anonymous says:

        So you need to set up dates between 9 am and 5 pm?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        No of course not you can set up the dates for whenever you like. If it’s after regular business hours you just call in the next business day to redeem your voucher.

        It could be nice. If you’re having stressful day in the office matchmaker shows up blows you at your desk you decompress … mutually beneficial for all involved.

    • Anonymous says:

      I have this nagging feeling that the “email and phone support” is just a link to a porn website and a 1-800 number to a phone sex operator for $2.99/min so you can take care of business yourself. Basically a “self-help” guarantee.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Only if you call after hours. The interactive automated system will “assist” you with your needs. But there is no fees it’s included as part of your package.

  103. Anonymous says:

    I have had too many women negotiate allowances and when the clothes come out they have some issues with their skin, boobs or pussy…which is less than desirable and could have been the reason for her to settle for lower amount and make an arrangement quicker.

    New approach best and quickest arrangements ask for nudes. Delusional will not share nudes. Cite “standards”.

    Needy and escorts will. Weed out escorts and work with the needy. The idea is NOT to abuse the needy…but to get to some kind of arrangement sooner rather than later.

    • Anonymous says:

      never pay until after the nut

    • Jaybird923 says:

      And you guys are always complaining about women not knowing what they want. I think men are just as bad. You complain when the woman won’t negotiate and accept a lower amount and now the women who settle for a lower amount must be less than desirable. I won’t send nude pictures to anyone and I’m nowhere near delusional.

      On another note What do you consider issues with boobs and pussy?

    • Lilya4ever says:

      What skin, boobs abd pussy problems are those? I am curious.

      • Anonymous says:

        I am curious as well, i’ve never encountered this

      • Lilya4ever says:

        Maybe is because many adult woman don’t look like a model-post-pubescent-girl with tits turned into the Moon.

      • the struggle

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      • Anonymous says:

        1st and 4th url does not work.

      • Riviera says:

        I must be becoming desensitized to these childbirth recreation cakes, because I must say: that vagina cake looks delicious” It did look rather good,

      • Cant say that I could bring myself to eat a child-bearing vagina cake. Total mind f*ck.

        1st url

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        4th url

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      • The urls dont work still. Sorry, pal :(.

  104. Anonymous says:

    There is no need for an expensive ass service.

    The reason arrangements are difficult to make at SA is that first they herd a bunch of idiotic SBs on false promises…egg them on with fantasy-talk so arrangements won’t be possible…then come up with an expensive ass service to “solve” the problem they created to start off with. LOL!

    • Anonymous says:

      They have to come up with newfangled ways to squeeze more money out of their male paying members, while continually encouraging delusional tumblr rinsers to secure a 10K/mo platonic arrangement. So the paying members are dwindling, while the hordes of delusional SB’s are increasing. A perfect recipe for disaster.

  105. rembodler says:

    If I were to put in my profile that I will pay 500 dollars to go to dinner with me, I will get a date with 100% of SBs within a 100 mile radius…
    Anyone thinks this is going to be a success?
    …anyone?

    • Riviera says:

      As successful as Seeking Fantasy :-)

    • Anonymous says:

      @rem correcto.

      They will give phone numbers of all their siblings, cousins, and best friends to have a date with you for $500 a pop.

    • Anonymous says:

      You are right. I would rather give the $500 sample package fee to the SB rather than give it to the website owner. How is this beneficial to the SB’s? The girl will not see any of that money.

  106. ihf2030 says:

    This is very strange, I must say!

  107. Jaybird923 says:

    Why couldn’t they wait until next week to post this blog?

    • Anonymous says:

      Because some genius at SA thought that the new iteration was a winner, and wwould roll in the dough. 😉

      What they don’t get is that they herd a bunch of idiotic SBs on false promises… egg them on so arrangements won’t be possible…then come with an expensive ass service to “solve” the problem they created to start off with. LOL!

      • Jaybird923 says:

        They didn’t create this service to solve a problem they created… they created a problem so they’d have a market for this service. :-)) Like I predicted months ago genius strategy.. except for the fact that very few people who’ve seen how low the quality has dropped on SA will be willing to pay them more money to set up dates with the same girls they can find on SA for cheaper.

      • Anonymous says:

        Perfect Arrangement is not going anywhere in terms of success. The paying members need to send emails to SA to stop jacking around with the existing service.

  108. Riviera says:

    I don’t end up with Cat do I?

  109. Riviera says:

    Sounds excellent, no really….;-)

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