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Tips From The Sugarbowl

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In a Sugar Daddy’s world, there’s often a desire for finding a special someone who brings a sense of needed distraction — and an occasional partner in crime *wink*.

Before jumping headfirst into the Sugar Bowl, we polled site members for a bit of advice geared toward the first-time Daddy, or those who simply need to brush up on their Sugar game.

1. “Be respectful to Sugar Baby members…”

This was overwhelmingly the number one piece of advice from Premium Members! We heard this over and over again and it was pleasant to see the level of respect amongst our community.

We know that there will be occasions where a Sugar Baby becomes someone other than who you met on the first date (or the inverse). That’s okay. Just remember that whom you’re staring down from across the dinner table while stabbing away at your new potatoes is a thinking, feeling human being that wanting to fill some type of void in his/her life — much like yourself. So Mr. Pot, quit trying to call the kettle black!

If you find you’re becoming short with a Sugar Baby, consider stepping away from the Sugar Game for a little bit. Clear your head, re-compose, and figure out your next step.

Next steps are influenced by knowing and communicating your boundaries (gifts, budget, sexual expectations, level of discrepancy) as well as those of your potential Sugar Baby.

The moment coherent communication ends between you two, ultimately is where animosity begins. This rule applies to any sort of relationship. In short, treat your Sugar Baby (and potentials) with the level of respect you’re looking for in a Sugar partner.

2. “No asking for sex. SA is not an escort service!”

This one is a topic we at SA battle time and time again. From varied stories cascading the headlines to the occasional member we have to boot with a firm sayonara!

SeekingArrangement is a community centered on the Sugar lifestyle. Sugar Daddies, keep in mind that the moment you begin interacting on our site, you become a living piece of the integrity our site looks to uphold.

Our Support Team receives escort-related questions from on-the-cusp members frequently. Do you know what we tell them? We advise that our Sugar Baby community is built of aspiring business professionals, caretakers, mothers, full-time students … and all in-between. No escorts.

These are everyday women – many hard-working – who seek a supplement to their day-to-day lives. If something more buds in the process, embrace this. However, if you come across someone who makes you feel uncomfortable, as with any dating site, communicate with us. We will remove that member promptly and you can carry on finding your perfect Sugar Baby drama-free.

3. “Hold off on exchanging any gifts until you’ve met in-person.”

We get that exchanging gifts is a way to show your worth, appreciation, or beckon a bit of anticipation for Sugar partners who frequently spend time apart.

Our Premium Sugar Daddies insist: absolutely no exchanging until you’ve had some quality face time.

Look at it this way, by allowing yourself time to get to know your potential or recently selected Sugar Baby, you can save yourself the hassle of wasting money on someone who may not appreciate the intention of your gifts.

If this news reaches you too late and you find the recently lavished Sugar Baby is not someone you want a long-term affiliation with- open up and start talking. If you lead with honesty, there’s less animosity after the dust settles. Cut ties, and get back in the Sugar Bowl.

How do you know what your special girl really likes until you’ve spent time getting to know her? Trust us, you’ll see a lot less store returns and a lot more returning the favor!

 

What advice would you pass along to newbie Sugar Daddies?

 


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1,198 Responses to “Tips From The Sugarbowl”

  1. I’m seeking a generous SD/SM, but I want someone I can be companions with, laugh with, turn to for advice, and be a true friend to as well as exploring with in an intimate way. But I am a lady and don’t mind waiting for the right one. I have however, been having a hard time finding the sugar my heart longs for. Any suggestions, tips, or advice?

  2. Joe says:

    I set up an account on here and I refused to have sex with one of the guys for $150 and he reported my account so they requested my id and when I sent them a photo of obviously blocking out my address and middle name but kept my first and last name and date of birth and everything on it but they still susspended and deleted my account and now I can’t get back on

  3. LolaBgood says:

    member/ef75ee9f/view

    Thank you. I have two more photos pending approval.

  4. cryptic anomaly says:

    @Lola – I can look at it for you if you like. My profile is -enchantme-

  5. LolaBgood says:

    Who is gives the best profile critiques?

  6. SBFranticpace says:

    I am black and proud of the color of my skin, i love black women , i love white women , i love asian women and bi racial women , in short i love older wiser women. And with each day my SM makes me understand its the brains and mindset of an adorable intelligent woman that makes a man drool, yes we maybe the animals we are and be driven by testosterone, but common sense has instilled in a certain type of reasoning . Note to self: So taking my SM for movies … Ermmmm yes in case you surprised , i take my SM out !!! she is so worth it

  7. SBFranticpace says:

    Truly SA is amazing , first SM = a trip to the Maldives all expense paid , a once in a life time experience. Not to self: I was right about dating older women all along.

  8. Kevin says:

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  10. David DG73 says:

    Here are a few things I would like to get off my chest about this site:

    (1)Women who are selling sex. There are way better sites to get an escort than SA.
    (2)Women selling pictures. Really? It’s free on the internet.
    (3)Women who say they want an allowance just to be friends with you. I can buy a guy friend a beer, and it would be cheaper, why do I need a female friend?
    (4)Can I report all the above ?

  11. David DG73 says:

    Here are a few things I would like to get off my chest about this site:

    (1)Women who are selling sex. There are way better sites to get an escort than SA.
    (2)Women selling pictures. Really? It’s free on the internet.
    (3)Women who say they want an allowance just to be friends with you. I can buy a guy friend a beer, and it would be cheaper, why do I need a female friend?
    (4)Can I report all the above ?

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  13. hototrot1 says:

    Sometimes I have instant attraction and sometimes it takes time. Waiting a few dates shouldn’t be a problem. And what’s expense when future happiness is on the table. Paying for dinner a few times shouldn’t break an sd’s bank. I don’t believe an allowance should be paid in a getting to know you stage, however.

  14. CucumberOnLids says:

    lol@ Bagina

  15. yougottabekiddingme says:

    @KeKe and Jaybird

    It’s all pink on the inside ;p.

  16. Josh says:

    New blog is up, people.

  17. KeKe says:

    @Jay they come in black, white and tan of course 😉

  18. KeKe says:

    @Cryptic.. I think there a need to be concerned about being “played”. The SD’s complain about the girls who aren’t serious or scammers and the SB’s complain about the guy who tries to give as little as possible. Makes me feel lucky to have found my SD. I entertained the concept in January and joined. And meet some in February quite accidently. We have real chemistry. I’m damned lucky!

  19. Jaybird923 says:

    @YGTBK lol Is there free shipping and handling? And what colors do it come in?

    • Fakwadavid says:

      I just need a woman in my life to haul for him to come to yo just need a woman in my life to haul for him to come to you

  20. yougottabekiddingme says:

    @KeKe

    Maybe we should do an infomercial.

    “Introducing the Baaaagina! It’s a vagina*! It’s a purse! It’s an ummmmmbrellaaaa! Use it indoors, outdoors or even in a tent. On a train, in a plane, and, of course, in the rain :D. Get your Bagina at a limited time offer of $5000….per month, duh! Order now, and get a bonus bagina of equal or lesser value absolutely free!”

    *The integrity of the Bagina as a vagina is not guaranteed, and is sold As-Is, without warranty. Estimated yield varies from tri-weekly to try weakly.

  21. cryptic anomaly says:

    @keke – Thanks Keke, I could just be an anomaly as per my user name and I’m not knocking anyone for their choices, rather it just seems really different to me nonetheless.

    @Rembodler – Fair enough. Not knocking it as such just curious as to me that would feel a little weird not knowing who I am with and whether or not they are just using me for the day, playing games etc. I am rather cynical so for me taking the time is worth it.

  22. rembodler says:

    @Cryptic
    “…but for me the idea of entering into an arrangement with someone off a first meeting is just weird. Or are some of you guys just talking about P4P…”
    I had great arrangements that lasted months “off the first meeting”. We went shopping, sightseeing, cruising, travelled, stayed in, went out.
    My marriage – where I supposedly had “time to know” someone – was, by and large, prison time in comparison.

  23. KeKe says:

    I think I like how you Aussies do it. Lol

  24. KeKe says:

    @Cryptic.. Agreed! How is it more money to meet up for coffee or lunch? Also feel it’s different for you because you desire a girlfriend type of arrangement.

  25. cryptic anomaly says:

    I don’t know what some of you do out there but I can’t see how you can have an arrangement without knowing the person. Maybe it is different for me as I have legal brothels and escorts in my country but for me the idea of entering into an arrangement with someone off a first meeting is just weird. Or are some of you guys just talking about P4P?

    Also I never mentioned anything about dinner dates per se, just short meetings over coffee, it’s not expensive and saves a lot of bullshit if you start to notice the SB is not right in some way.

  26. KeKe says:

    @YGTBKM…lol.. I like having a good quality handbag. This is true. But I like to change it up too. Lol

  27. yougottabekiddingme says:

    @KeKe

    Because men like their wives’ baginas collapsible, reversible and water-proof, but according to Chrissy, women just want a good handbag.

    Apparently, the answer is multi-purpose baginas.

  28. Promise says:

    Has SA ever written any blogs for Sugar Mama’s or homosexuals?

  29. CucumberOnLids says:

    darn double post.

  30. CucumberOnLids says:

    @OnlineNew- I noticed the same.

    **I’m getting duplicate comment detected* How is that possible?

    I would say the 46 and down interactions have been different although they seem to be the busiest which means you have to catch up with them or you’ll miss out.

    @charlotte – I have NO PROBLEMS with SBs over 23…I have, however, found that the 18-23 category behave similarly…the 23-27 category behave similarly…the 27-32 behave similarly…the 32-40 behave similarly…and the few I’ve connected with over 40 (in my sugar profile mind you…sugarbloggies are very different) were cookie-cutters of each other.

    I could elaborate, but that’s enough for now…I choose to break the age-based search down like that because that’s how they’ve acted (obvious outliers and exceptions of course)

    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    SDs in similar age groups sound the same almost to the point where you think they actually know each other.

    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    @Chrissy-The Marlboro Cowboy and I did not work out. He was more interested in mentally tormenting me more than anything sexual or you know my obvious wit and intellect and although he was willing to pay to watch me squirm it just was not worth it.

    Curious… Can you tell more? Squirm? Torment?

  31. CucumberOnLids says:

    @OnlineNew- I noticed the same.

    I would say the 46 and down interactions have been different although they seem to be the busiest.

    @charlotte – I have NO PROBLEMS with SBs over 23…I have, however, found that the 18-23 category behave similarly…the 23-27 category behave similarly…the 27-32 behave similarly…the 32-40 behave similarly…and the few I’ve connected with over 40 (in my sugar profile mind you…sugarbloggies are very different) were cookie-cutters of each other.

    I could elaborate, but that’s enough for now…I choose to break the age-based search down like that because that’s how they’ve acted (obvious outliers and exceptions of course)

    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    SDs in similar age groups sound the same almost to the point where you think they actually know each other.

    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    @Chrissy-The Marlboro Cowboy and I did not work out. He was more interested in mentally tormenting me more than anything sexual or you know my obvious wit and intellect and although he was willing to pay to watch me squirm it just was not worth it.

    Curious… Can you tell more? Squirm? Torment?

  32. KeKe says:

    @YGTBKM… but why!! :-(

  33. yougottabekiddingme says:

    @ATL

    Am 20 minutes pregnant ;p.

    @Struggle

    Will check my mail! :)

  34. yougottabekiddingme says:

    A marriage therapist I know shared with me that the frequency of sex in marriages, over the course of time, looks something like this:

    Tri-weekly—> Try weekly–> Try weakly

    :/

  35. rembodler says:

    @Cucumber
    I am divorced=single, so I have no idea what u r trying to say. When I talk about your attitudes, I refer to your complete and blind focus on the money. I also suspect that you are not 30 anymore. Age is merciless and will define the type of men who will click on your profile. The way you write, strikes me as shallow, self-centered and generally unpleasant and I am sure, that will also spill into your SA communications.

  36. KeKe says:

    @Charlotte… He’s never been into sex as much as I am. He is affectionate in the grab/ smack your ass as he’s walking pass kind of way. Lol. The only time he has shown more sexual interested than myself is when I was pregnant. Only because I’m sick ( throwing up every day/ nauseous) until I deliver. We went 8 months without sex for both pregnancies. And with my son 3 months postpartum because I had a bad tear.
    I have an extremely high sex drive. So I don’t think I fall into the norm category. I can and would like to have sex everyday. Luckily I don’t need it every day. What happened with us is that it started out okay. At least once a week then it was once every two weeks then once a month to every couple of months. And so on. But I’m an all or nothing. If I get it sporadically ( but with some frequently say every month or two) I get antsy and want it all the time but when we go long bouts it’s like my hormones shut down and I can manage.
    So now I’m in the antsy department. I want it all the time since I’m getting it pretty regularly ( once a week). My SD jokes that I’m going to kill him. Lol.
    I know Josh finds it interesting that so many blog SB’s have high sex drives but I really do. Every boyfriend/ husband / SD says they haven’t dated anyone like me. It’s good and bad though.

  37. CucumberOnLids says:

    I’m curious as to what is referred to as a “free love society”. What do you mean by that?

  38. CucumberOnLids says:

    rembodler says:
    June 2, 2015 at 8:26 am
    @Cucumber
    When you describe your attitudes… I am not surprised these are the kind of men you attract, dear.

    I’m not surprised with the majority of men on most of these sites. You’re not seeking divorce right? So you desire a SB that will be not only be fun but respect your marriage enough to not create problems. I have yet to date the married SD.

  39. Jaybird923 says:

    @Online I know right lol I didn’t see Josh’s post until after I submitted mines. But my aim isn’t to be mean. I just don’t think sugarcoating things is a productive way to help people. And she is new maybe she’s unaware of how her profile comes across. I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt.

  40. Charlotte says:

    @YGBKM

    Haha thanks for insight.

    @ONSD

    I am walking on the line hence my incoherence.

    @THEATLSD

    Does that mean I get extras?:O

  41. Chrissy says:

    @Struggles
    I am BACK! The Marlboro Cowboy and I did not work out. He was more interested in mentally tormenting me more than anything sexual or you know my obvious wit and intellect and although he was willing to pay to watch me squirm it just was not worth it.

  42. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Jay – that was remarkably nice…I thought you were unleashed by @ATL and now that @Josh has commented, I thought you’d be double barrel blasting…

  43. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – thanks for the minimalistic rewrite…

    is that better @Jay?

  44. Jaybird923 says:

    @Fluffi I did take a look at your profile and like online said you are attracting exactly what you say you aren’t looking for. Your profile has no personality, you’re to confrontational and worst of all you advertise yourself as nothing more than a series of warm holes and get mad when men take the marketing at face value. Your whole profile is a string of bad innuendos about sex and what you want men to do for you. What did expect but Johns. There’s no mention of what makes you special,hobbies, or what you will bring to an SDs life beyond sex. If a mentor/companion is what you’re looking for you need a complete overhaul of your profile. Right now it screams BP pro.

  45. Josh says:

    @ONSD

    As you said, if you look and write like a whore, you will attract johns.

  46. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @charlotte – I have NO PROBLEMS with SBs over 23…I have, however, found that the 18-23 category behave similarly…the 23-27 category behave similarly…the 27-32 behave similarly…the 32-40 behave similarly…and the few I’ve connected with over 40 (in my sugar profile mind you…sugarbloggies are very different) were cookie-cutters of each other.

    I could elaborate, but that’s enough for now…I choose to break the age-based search down like that because that’s how they’ve acted (obvious outliers and exceptions of course)

  47. struggleisreal says:

    @Chrissy is back?!!!!
    The gods do hear me! hehe

    How are you keyboards dear? How is Marlboro man?

  48. struggleisreal says:

    @ATL
    I’m so glad to hear that IRL POT is stewing along nicely! I hope it continues to!

    @YGBKM
    Oh my dear, how I have missed you! I think I emailed you once or maybe even twice, but I am sure it is your throw-away that you never look at. So glad to have you back.

  49. Chrissy says:

    @ygtbkm
    My phone does the same thing. My best friend tells me it is because my vagina is as big as my purse, a huge gapping bagina. 😀

  50. THEATLSD says:

    @YGBkM

    Will have my babies??

  51. Jaybird923 says:

    @Online ATL is the Dark Lord of course he has control over me. lol
    @ATL Thanks for the permission :)

  52. THEATLSD says:

    @Struggles

    :) (happy face blushing)

  53. yougottabekiddingme says:

    @Charlotte

    According to hearsay…

    After age 23, following a grand finale fireworks display from your far-too-mighty orifice, your vagina wilts to a worthless pile of demands, and your youth escapes your body through your deflating nipples. I think it actually makes a sound. :(

    Then you convince some rich or well-enough-off but poor unsuspecting guy into marrying you through a series of trickery and manipulation, spend the rest of your fermenting years (fine wine gets better with age, my ass) bitching, complaining, sabotaging, crying and eating until you’re a “few extra pounds” heavier, at which point you divorce that ungrateful bastard who doesn’t know your worth, and try your damnedest to rake in half his life earnings (cha-ching, bitches), and then…create a profile on Seeking Arrangement, and find yourself a SugarBaby, or resort to rebound f*cking your high school, video gaming boyfriend, his uncle or the mailman for free.

    In other words…the end is eminent. That’s why I always say…

    “Live each aging sugar-day like it’s your last.”

    Ok…I don’t actually say that. That would be ridiculous.

    I would probably go with…

    “You better twerk, b*tch!”

    Oh oh oh!

    Or “Reel in that c***, lady!”

    [motions a reel and fishing line, humps air]

    Wait, wait! Even better…

    [in a calm and soothing voice]

    “Embrace your aging vagina. Beyond age 23, no one else will.”

    Nope. They won’t.

    I do have one question, though.

    Why does my phone auto-correct vagina? What the hell is a bagina? Is it what happens to sugar babies after age 23? Their vagina turns into an inflatable bag of rugae?

    You see…there’s just no hope.

  54. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    If I reset the search as a male SB looking for a SM, there are only 5,436 profiles globally available…if we were to hold them to the same standard as the SD as far as assets and income, there would probably only be a handful of SM that could support even Moderate (based solely on income and assets like has been done by female SB of the SD profiles)

  55. THEATLSD says:

    @Charoooolette. Mon dieu. You are still number one in Europe. And I merely spoke of her ass. Whilst you, I find the whole woman beautiful.

  56. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    Interesting experiment…opened a SB profile as a male, looking for SM…within 100 miles, only 36 profiles…NOT A SINGLE ONE IS A TRUE SM…they are all SB profiles from the Assets and Income designated…and only 9 had a status of “online” but, even then, EVERY profile once clicked into had a “active” designation at least 1 day ago…

    Now I need to quit with this number stuff for a while…too much needs to get done…this is why I hate when I’ve got so much to do at the office and not enough time to see Student!

  57. struggleisreal says:

    I think the following advice that @ONSD offered is spot-on:

    “Typically, allowance range is discussed, intimacy availability is discussed before a coffee meet (or between scheduling and actually meeting someone for coffee)…however…it is made clear the first meet is a NO EXPECTATION meeting. Usually, if conversation has included kids, we would discuss babysitter need or if she’s traveling to me (VERY rare, because I want HER to be comfortable with surroundings and be closer to her life) a travel expense will be agreed to…I’ll almost always be sitting on a gift card for the place we’re meeting or something else (I’m not a foot guy like @ATL, so I don’t do shoe store)…if she doesn’t bring up any finances outside our prior babysitter/travel, I’ll give her the gift card at the conclusion of our meeting – if she starts dumping about expenses and financial need, she’s not getting gift card and will not get a second “date” scheduled!

    It’s the SECOND meet that’s key for me…if she’s interested in continuing, she will step into some intimacy with me…if I’m interested in continuing, I’ll offer allowance to begin after full intimate connection is established…

    If, at the conclusion of the SECOND meet either of us isn’t “feeling it”, we’ve “wasted” about 90-minutes of our lives between the two meetings, and I’ve “wasted” a couple hundred on the expense of the two meetings…”

  58. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Struggle – GB is just weird…nothing against it – to each his own…but, weird…although, I’m sure you ALWAYS smell like sunshine and happiness 😉

  59. struggleisreal says:

    @ATL
    Hehe, I saw that!
    You are intelligent, adept, and handsome. :)

  60. StruggleIsReal says:

    @Keke
    Yeah, GB and I travelled to CA for a wedding and just got back. It was awesome! My baby brother is now on his way to visit for a couple days, then we leave to spend about a week with his family in NM. Meet the parents… Here we go!

    @ONSD
    I completely sympathize with your situation regarding perfumes. I actually get migraines from some perfumes, even if I “like” how they smell. My mom now has quite an arsenal of fine perfumes because of gifts etc that I am unable to wear. But sometimes I have been around her when she is wearing them and I actually will get a migraine then. I have to wear very clean, light scents. But even those can be “signature scents”.
    In fact, I feel that more understated scents are the ones that stick with you the most.

    On a funny note, GB literally sniffs me. It took me a while to get used to. And it’s not just because I’m all clean and smell all fresh. He will actually sniff my mouth upon waking and tries to catch me before I shower after working out etc.

    Scents are intense for me. I know exactly how my childhood babysitter smells still to this day. It is one of my favorite smells and I have asked her what it is. She doesn’t know. I think it was just her skin and hair.

  61. Charlotte says:

    @THEATLSD

    “@Fluffi. Bunny I saw your pics that linked off Disqus, it was not your SA profile. You have an awesome ass. BAM!!”

    I had thought we had a veery special chemistry, now it is over you are no longer Daddy :(

  62. THEATLSD says:

    @Flufi
    Also You reap what you sew.

    Go at Jaybird

  63. THEATLSD says:

    @Jay and Onsd thanks nothing but love from here.

    @Fluffi. Bunny I saw your pics that linked off Disqus, it was not your SA profile. You have an awesome ass. BAM!!

  64. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Jay – does @ATL have some control over you? Bravo ATL! 😉

    I’m trying to maintain the positive environment…I’ll give her a chance to ask for help…I’m not going to put up with straight bitching though!

  65. Jaybird923 says:

    @Online Poor Baby. That’s okay then. You don’t have to be mean to anyone. I’ll wait for Josh Since I’m following ATL’s rules I have to wait for an SD to get the ball rolling. lol

  66. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Jay – I can’t…that’s the problem…I can’t be mean first…I have no problem lashing out when attacked, but I NEED to truly believe there is good in everyone…otherwise, why would I sugar 😉

  67. Jaybird923 says:

    @Online You were not harsh enough. Try again and this time cut the nice guy stuff :)

  68. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @ATL – if you want to be blocked, I’ll have my SB profile block you as well, just need your ID 😉

    Here’s the other part about “safety” with profiles…if you’ve hidden your profile, your profile is still visible to people if you Visit their profile…

    Which means, if you click on the person’s profile “lurking” yours, you’re sending HIM a message you’ve viewed HIM…perpetuating the cycle of him lurking you!

  69. Jaybird923 says:

    @ATL I’ll block you. So you can feel special.

  70. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – was that nicely harsh enough for our new contributor?

  71. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Fluffi – I clicked through to your profile…you’re attracting the exact profile you despise!

    While you’re right…there will be a certain level of bullshit and douchebag contacts, when you announce your occupation is “Sugar Baby” all you’re going to get is random hook-up and “how much” communications!

    If you want to attract a different kind of SD, you need to write your profile to THAT type of person…ignore/block/report those that fall into the bullshit and douchebag categories accordingly…search yourself for THAT profile and reach out to those profiles with something of value drawn from HIS profile…wait for the communications to come back…schedule a first meeting…secure the arrangement…

  72. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @YGBKM – Just “confirmed” the process…logged into my SB profile and blocked my sugar profile…logged into my sugar profile and when I clicked to the “Visitors” page saw my SB profile and clicked it…went to the profile without a problem…clicked the “Message” button and saw:

    We’re Sorry, But You Are Blocked By This Member…
    Find someone new to talk to (was a link to the search page)

    So, there really isn’t a way for someone to block a member from viewing another profile…which is a bit sad…

    Thanks for the clarification as well…now I think I’m following 😉

  73. Fluffi Fhucbunni says:

    The tone of the article is well placed, weather the SD’s appreciate it or not, Sadly the “quality” of some women is also really sub-par too.

    Let me see you naked, let’s cam, what’s your number,I’m in town tomorrow let’s party and then….. FU B****

    THAT is the sum total of the conversations I’ve had here when I ask for a little more than random streetwalker propositions. THAT is not the behavior of a cultured or educated man of means, though I am really beginning to wonder. Granted, I’ve seen quite a few women who have even less class, but that’s no grand surprise either.

    I spend hours just deleting the hundreds of “pic collectors” junk mail, then the “lets cam” and other trash only to find out the guy is just talk and full of hot air. A multimillionaire who cant scrape together $50 for some cheap shoes? Seriously? Really?

    No real shocker though, it’s the same type of man on every site out there. It’s just to bad because some of us are serious!

  74. Josh says:

    *too loud.

  75. Josh says:

    @Charlotte

    “@Josh

    You aren’t anti-feminist, you are very feminist on the contrary”

    Shhh. Don’t say it told loud. Madame @flyR will think that you are yet another of @Josh’s proxies.

    That said…I am anti-idiots; male or female. 😉

  76. yougottabekiddingme says:

    @online

    I think they are trying to sell anonymity, maybe. Maybe SA is ok with it because some sort of identifier is used to purchase or validate the upgrade (with the exception of money order mail-in), I think.

    Re: My earlier comment

    Haha. Sorry, online. Ok Translation.

    SA’s promotion of empty profile upgrades facilitates a “put out less, get more” approach much like figuratively virginized sex.

    You no likey? ;p

  77. Charlotte says:

    This age 23 thing… You are no longer a SB material after 23?

  78. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @ATL – all it took for me was to ask a SB why she chose negotiable if she was expecting more than $1,000 per visit?

  79. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @YGBKM – If it is true that you can bypass typically required fields and all a SB has to do is use a .edu email address to obtain Premium Membership status, why even ask any questions at all on the SB side?

    I shared the numbers within 50-miles of me…nearly 50% of members (raw numbers show 44%, but with the overlap of age 23, I’d say nearly 50% is close enough for this illustration) are in the 18-23 age group with an easy way to take a class at a community college or technical school and get a .edu email address.

  80. THEATLSD says:

    That’s the YGBKM we all know and love.
    (At least me)

    BTW I’ve never been blocked, I’m feeling left out :(

  81. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    I’ve been blocked by profiles in the past…it has not stopped my ability to view the profile (whether I’m paid as a member or not)…the only notification is when I click on the “Message” button and I’m taken to the message page…If I’ve been blocked, there is no text box for me to type in and there is a message that says “You’ve been blocked by this member and cannot communicate with the profile” or something like that.

    I think SA would be more safety conscious if they added an ability to block your profile from view for specific profiles…especially since that would allow a SB (or I guess SD) to block their new arrangement from viewing their profile, allowing the profile to continue to add arrangements without the original parties being able to see the activity!

    Sounds like it would work great for the juggling crowd…there was a recent blog post about it…surprised they haven’t launched it as a premium service!

  82. yougottabekiddingme says:

    @online

    Uh huh

  83. yougottabekiddingme says:

    Re: profile lurker

    Maybe his profile is hidden. Orrr…maybe it’s a blog lurker. Or maybe his profile isn’t approved?

    Have a previous pot-turned-creep that lurks my profile. I didn’t block him because he has refrained from messaging as I politely requested, but he still views my profile. If someone blocks you, I think a specific “You’ve been blocked” notification pops up.

  84. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @YGBKM – ?????

  85. Charlotte says:

    @ONSD

    It is like part 1 of marriage kills love.

    Curious things asexual or aromance people get married.

  86. yougottabekiddingme says:

    SD to virgin SB:

    “It’s all about the hymen, baby. What-what in the butt? Say whaaat? You no likey?”

    Re: Premium membership

    One of the things I actually remember reading in the listed perks of premium membership, was that it allowed you to bypass required registration fields. Hymen intact.

    You no likey?

  87. Jaybird923 says:

    @online It’s super weird because I’ve never blocked anyone or communicated with anyone by that name but at least once a week I’ll receive a message telling me that my profile has been viewed by this person. when I click on it I get the same thing every time… member unavailable. Oh well I guess I have my first stalker. Maybe he’s just checking out the pictures

  88. Charlotte says:

    @ONDS

    I prefer it to be British Shaal-lotte if possible :(

  89. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Charlotte – now…I’m not sure for wifey…she has no problem cuddling on the couch with a movie, kissing, wants to hold hands in public…but…it is never the right time for sex, and when it is, nothing outside the bedroom unless I want it not to be the right time for sex…it’s weird, because it wasn’t like this dating or engaged or even first year or so of marriage…but quickly became this…

  90. Charlotte says:

    @Josh

    You aren’t anti-feminist, you are very feminist on the contrary, you want women to be financially and emotionally and probably socially ( like no imarriage) independant or at least not dependant on a male.

    Also aganist female shaming, like ” put an attractive woman who is insignificant and probably with a limited intelligence, it is better if you get her nakes in most scenes and have sex for a couple of times with the main character”.

    Your ideas mind me of a funny french song about liberal women, reading Elle and so on.

  91. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @GP – I saw @Charlotte and remembered…you had asked me how I pronounce Aunt (a sibling of my parents)…it’s ANT, nothing but that…family that lives in the south LOVES to say it in the southern drawl around me, because I WILL correct them when they’re here…

    Charlotte made me remember because of the difference in pronunciation between Charlotte (Shar-lit), NC and Charlotte (Shar-lot), MI…

  92. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Jay – I don’t look at the “Visitors” or even the “Favorited Me” sections of the page unless I’m actively looking…but I have gotten that message from Search Results and Homescreen Profiles…

    We’ve discussed issues with the “Block” status on SA before…because when you Block someone, it just prevents them from sending you messages, it does NOTHING to stop them from viewing your profile or public pictures.

    Maybe SA has updated it’s “Block” status without communicating things to members? Maybe you’ve been blocked by that profile, so you can’t see HIS, but he can still see yours? That would be disturbing, because then a SD could just block profiles and continue to view them, without the SB having an ability to block his profile’s view…very disturbing!

  93. Josh says:

    Many MGTOWs and anti-feminists don’t like Anita Sarkeesian.
    [https://www.youtube.com/user/feministfrequency]

    I actually like her. Man falls for woman, man save woman, etc., should be removed from not only games but also from Hollywood stories. These media should show women carry their own weight.

    I recently watched Tracers. The female character was pretty much unnecessary, and the main character ends up with her. Pretty lame if you asked me. I guess those scenes were necessary to attract female audience.

  94. Charlotte says:

    @Online and Keke

    If you don’t mind I am curious about…

    Is it like they don’t like anything at all and having sex is like a duty or just enjoy the intercourse without love-making?

    We have been reading about sexless marriages and debating if asexuality can dissolve the marriage without divorce. And it is very interesting.

    But hard to determine if people are asexual or aromance, latter doesn’t like the affection process but enjoy the intercourse and the way around for asexual people.

    It is funny how men get nothing if divorce was pronunced upon fault ( not being sexed ) but women get compensation for not being sexed.

  95. Jaybird923 says:

    Has anyone had this happen to them. I keep getting viewed by the same profile and whenever I click on it I get a message saying that the member is unavailable. How is that possible? Can you view profiles if yours is deactivated?

  96. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Charlotte – Agreed…just as telling as the “I give as good as I get” or the like…the short profile was Negotiable…the blank one didn’t even have an Expectation selected!

  97. Charlotte says:

    Figuratively virgin… I thought it only existed in overly oppressing patriachal cultures, but even then some people tell if the only reason you don’t get intimate is to keep your flower untouched, you are “figuratively” no virgin.

    @OnlineNewbieSD

    What about profiles with ” if you want to learn about my desired arrangement, message me ( wink ) “. With no real info. And especially “negociable”.

  98. Jaybird923 says:

    @Keke No problem lol the longest you enjoyed yourself that’s all that matters no need to elaborate :)

  99. KeKe says:

    Look into that

  100. KeKe says:

    Okay the short of it!

    @ATL thanks for answering my question.

    @Jay… thanks. . ( it was more elaborate. Lol)

    @Online. .my husband and your wife must be related. Boring vanilla sex.
    And the feature member must be random… SA should really loom into though.

  101. KeKe says:

    Ugh. I just wrote a long post and then refreshed my ph!!!!

  102. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    Oh…just clicked to the second unfamiliar face…not more than 30 words between tagline, about and looking sections…and 7 of those words are expressing the desire for nothing sexual…man, a “Featured Member” with no desire to provide anything but companionship…not looking good for SA!

  103. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    Here’s another example of the “approval process” causing problems for SA…

    Just went to the homescreen for my Sugar profile…”Featured Members” tab had two faces I didn’t recognize…clicked the first one…didn’t even have a tagline, text in the “About” or “Looking” sections…didn’t even have an Expectation Level set! How is this a “Featured Member”? It provides NO incentive for me to purchase a membership to the site if THIS is the caliber of FEATURED MEMBER on the site!

    Had one last night…clicked on the profile picture and got the “Profile has been removed or deleted” page…really…a “Featured Member” that isn’t active anymore? What a waste of a local space on the homescreen!

  104. Jaybird923 says:

    Hello everyone. I’m all caught up. There’s been some interesting conversations going on since I’ve been MIA. @Online I get where you’re coming from with the false flattery. It’s a huge turn off. @ATL good luck with the IRL POT hope it all works out for you. @Keke I hope you enjoyed your Birthday weekend :)

  105. rembodler says:

    @Cucumber
    When you describe your attitudes… I am not surprised these are the kind of men you attract, dear.

  106. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @KeKe – I agree with the “figurative” virgin being just stupid…but…to each their own beliefs and justification for lifestyle 😉

    I’m very glad I could bring some entertainment to YOUR life today…it’s not shaping up to be a great day at the office, so I can at least feel I’ve accomplished SOMETHING today 😉

  107. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @ATL has it exactly right…on both accounts…I wouldn’t use SB/SD language on someone IRL…it’s all about benefactor or sponsor or even scholarship under the right circumstances…

    Oh, and the “girlfriend experience” has SOME emotional expense attached, but the best of those women know the line not to cross toward dramatage (sabotage through inserting drama in the SD’s life)…

  108. THEATLSD says:

    @Keke
    To turn someone into a SB. For me I would present it as a benefactor. Once you know their situation a statement like “What you need is a benefactor to help with your situation” or “to get you on your feet”.

    A SB and GF are both expensive, one does not have the emotional expense attached to it.

  109. KeKe says:

    @Online. ..you have me in stitches this morning. “figurative (meaning the crowd that doesn’t count oral or anal as sexually active”..And I find that appalling that they believe that O_O

  110. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @KeKe – glad I can provide some entertainment 😉

    No, I don’t care what age…unless she’s a virgin in the literal as well as figurative (meaning the crowd that doesn’t count oral or anal as sexually active) sense, there’s no way I’m going to be THE best at EVERYTHING…I’m just a realist (remember, I’m a numbers guy)…however, I do get consistent compliments on specific things…if she says I’m the best at one of those, it doesn’t surprise me…

  111. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @KeKe – YES! That, to me, is a part of the Sugar…wifey is a “light’s out, bedroom, missionary lover”…on the rare occasion we are intimate…Sugar lets me have an outlet for the things I like, to experiment a bit with location and positions…it also gives a judgement-free option for the SB to express what she might want to try…which has resulted in some WONDERFUL experiences for me as well 😉

  112. KeKe says:

    @Online… LMAO @
    Don’t get me wrong…I might be the best at SOMETHING (A king), but I KNOW I’m not the best at EVERYTHING (THE king)…

    If she’s young. It’s possible! Lol
    My SD is one of the best when it comes to penetration. And I have a pretty good frame of reference. Lol.

  113. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @YGBKM – I thought my most recent post explained that…a SB should let her SD know what she likes sexually, because a good lover will want to make the experience GREAT…just like she should listen and pay attention when the SD says what he likes.

    However, when EVERYTHING is the best, it feels VERY acted and escort-ish…like…you’re paying me so everything is going to be GREAT! Which, to an attentive lover, will probably come off as “you’re horrible and I just need to get this done so I can get to my next appointment or back to the lover who knows what I like”

    Better?

  114. yougottabekiddingme says:

    It appears we posted at the same time, Online ;).

    I think I follow.

    So, you’d want your SB to be more realistic in her flattery as opposed to the one shot for stardom act that an escort might put on. Yeah?

  115. KeKe says:

    @All..Do you find it easier to experiment sexually with your SD or SB..meaning bring up things you are interested that you wouldn’t in a traditional relationship because sugar is involved.

  116. yougottabekiddingme says:

    I mean…

    Whatdya mean by, “Treat me like A king not THE king,” in the context of a SB vs escort experience, respectfully.

  117. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @YGBKM – I had one SB that our first meeting with intimacy EVERYTHING I did was “oh my god, that is the best I’ve ever had”, “the biggest I’ve ever seen”, etc…I’m sorry, but if it’s ME that’s the best you’ve ever had at EVERYTHING, you’ve had a very sorry sex life!

    Don’t get me wrong…I might be the best at SOMETHING (A king), but I KNOW I’m not the best at EVERYTHING (THE king)…

    is that better?

  118. Koran says:

    This has made a few post that i have read and i can’t help but wonder, Is “Josh” always angry?

  119. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @YGBKM – I agree, to a point with the editing concept…if the input box were larger, I would agree completely. However, if I’m on my phone, there’s no scrolling ability to proofread, and if I’m on a tear, I may not even realize how much I’ve swiped before I look back. On the computer, that’s fine, because I have arrow keys to scroll up and check things out, but mobile, not so much…

    I’m not sure how editing can be a tool for the abusive person, except to post something inflammatory and after a few comments are added to the conversation an edit makes it less inflammatory? But, that could easily be a rule that only allows editing prior to comments or replies or whatever, right?

  120. yougottabekiddingme says:

    @ATL

    Bah!

  121. yougottabekiddingme says:

    “Treat me like A king not THE king.”

    Never heard this expression. Whatdya mean?

  122. THEATLSD says:

    @YGKM

    I keep forgetting comas and I’m afraid by doing so I will piss off “The Oxford Comma” queen.

  123. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @cucumber – also, I’m a gentleman…I don’t get all handsy…In fact, I demand SHE make the first gesture…not the first MOVE, but the first GESTURE…what does that mean? I’ll ask if she thinks things are moving in the right direction for her…I’ll send her a message after the first meeting indicating an interest in something more private (especially since she’s had some time to think about our conversation)…I have had the second meeting end up at a hotel…I’ve had the second meeting be at a restaurant near a hotel…I’ve even had SB say, “I just wasn’t feeling it” after the coffee…if I had made it p2p and been intimate, that would make ME feel like a john…I would rather take up to 90-minutes to get to know someone, kiss them and see if I am compelled to want to rip her clothes off in a fit or passion, or if there’s really nothing felt during that kiss…

    THAT’s why I think the “get to know you” “courtship” is a more efficient way for the SD to get a feel for the SB…now…it’s not as beneficial for the SB, of course, since she has to invest the 90-minutes in the process as well…but she shouldn’t have been forced to change her life significantly for the 90-minutes, and she’s had two positive meetings with a gentleman that covered some mentoring, conversation about desires, needs, wants…intimacy conversation, a kiss and maybe more if things are moving toward the arrangement…

  124. THEATLSD says:

    @ONSD
    Crossed “baths” Damn I missed that. Hopefully that was a real life Freudian slip.

  125. yougottabekiddingme says:

    Re: Editing

    Proofread ;p.

    Typos can be annoying, but quite easy to make, especially with autocorrect on phones. While nice for correcting spelling and grammatical errors, edited and deleted posts can throw a thread out of context, and also be a utility for abusive or offensive comments. Ive participated on forums where editing was not allowed. People are more cognizant about what they post. The gist in those spaces was post responsibly and respectfully.

  126. KeKe says:

    So clearly it’s to each their own. I think 5 dates is too much. And one might be too little. I think there shouldn’t be any expectation of sugar on either side.
    It really is how comfortable you feel after meeting. I was ready to jump all over my SD after our first date. LOTS of making out. Lol But we also communicated a lot for two weeks prior to our “official” date. Everyone just do what works for you. No judgment.

  127. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @cucumber – I think you misunderstood…or I misrepresented…I would not wait 4-5 meets for intimacy…if, at the end of the second meet we’re not kissing, I assume we’re not a match for intimacy OR allowance…

    I don’t want to jump to the hotel at the first meet…did that once or twice early on with SA…only met escort-type (over actors with intimacy) and I’m not into that. Treat me like A king not THE king.

    Also, I’m not saying there’s NO compensation…part of the process is finding someone I’m compatible with for longer-term (at least for me) which means a first meeting might include some networking suggestions or mentorship for school or job prospects…if SB thinks it was a waste of time, I’ve not added to her life and we’re probably not a match for intimacy OR allowance…

    Does this make better sense? Yeah, 4-5 meets…no way…90-minutes, close to her life (minimal travel)…shouldn’t be out of the question…

  128. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @SDaddy – I actually think the “courtship” process is cheaper than jumping to allowance at the first meeting.

    Typically, allowance range is discussed, intimacy availability is discussed before a coffee meet (or between scheduling and actually meeting someone for coffee)…however…it is made clear the first meet is a NO EXPECTATION meeting. Usually, if conversation has included kids, we would discuss babysitter need or if she’s traveling to me (VERY rare, because I want HER to be comfortable with surroundings and be closer to her life) a travel expense will be agreed to…I’ll almost always be sitting on a gift card for the place we’re meeting or something else (I’m not a foot guy like @ATL, so I don’t do shoe store)…if she doesn’t bring up any finances outside our prior babysitter/travel, I’ll give her the gift card at the conclusion of our meeting – if she starts dumping about expenses and financial need, she’s not getting gift card and will not get a second “date” scheduled!

    It’s the SECOND meet that’s key for me…if she’s interested in continuing, she will step into some intimacy with me…if I’m interested in continuing, I’ll offer allowance to begin after full intimate connection is established…

    If, at the conclusion of the SECOND meet either of us isn’t “feeling it”, we’ve “wasted” about 90-minutes of our lives between the two meetings, and I’ve “wasted” a couple hundred on the expense of the two meetings…well less than the expected p2p “donation” locally…or…maybe equal to a single p2p encounter, but with less drama and better conversation. Because, if I was just in “Sugar” to pop one off every now and again, I’d be on BP as a john, not on SA as a SD!

  129. CucumberOnLids says:

    Never thought I’d say this but I have to agree with both Josh and Super on this one.

    “Getting to Know” you on either end is a sham. If the SD wants to run out on 4-5 days just for dinner and no allowance of any sort he’s wasting the SBs time.

    Same could be said for the SB that wants a “Getting To Know You” allowance for 4-5 meets sans intimacy. Both in general are playing the game of getting their part of the arrangement but not providing on their end.

    This is how SB and SDs alike get taken for a ride. A SB keeps “collecting” and sees no real reason to do anything more on her part because she’s already getting what she desires.

    The SD collecting time, attention or whatever ego boosts he’s seeking is doing the same because for him regular dating would be the ultimate draw. If all of these women were knocking his door down on Match an arrangement wouldn’t be necessary.

    @Online- That 70yr old SD is exactly this way. He uses 40 year old pictures on his profile, pushes for dinner by message two and then once he appears you realize “liar”. Then out of just common decency you sit through and listen to the guy go on and on about how his wife never slept with him and how he craves intimacy meanwhile any discussions of allowance keep being pushed out. Then of course the overkill constantly hugging that felt suffocating and not natural. The guy even asked to kiss me and I thought wtf I just met you. He tried to grab my head anyway where i moved out of the way just in time. He then got loud which is something I noticed in conversation when I tried to bring some truth to why most women here are not going to be interested in what it appears he’s seeking.

    The man was trying to run a con game and kept stating “I’m a romantic” but honestly he’s just old and selfish.

    The guy eventually tries that I’m looking for the love of my life after he’s wasted an evening you could have spent with someone that wanted an actual real arrangement. Now I didn’t have dinner with the man because I’m not into blind dates. I also don’t do dinner if I have no clue what the other party is seeking. Still the guy just wouldn’t leave my presence and honestly thought he could talk me into “just cuddling , I’ll compensate you”. Notice “compensate” doesn’t have a real number or figure. It’s a random “whatever I feel like giving you comment”.

    He even tried to act like he didn’t see allowance desires on profiles when every profile set up requires you select something.

    Typically I find out what they’re looking for online so I don’t even have to waste my time meeting someone that isn’t going to be a match for what it is I seek. This is the con. For this man he’s so happy to even get a message back that he’ll pretend to be a billionaire if he has to. I just got lucky and refused his “can I come in and just cuddle” proposal which could have ended with me being a “statistic”.

    Now in general I don’t meet anyone that can’t openly discuss what they’re seeking. I’ve avoided many fakes on this site just by conversation alone. This time I decided to try a different approach which is something I’ll never do again.

    Another issue is emotional attachment. If he’s married or otherwise not a suitable match for “happily ever after” then I’m also not seeking to date him allowance free for 4-5 dates. That’s way too much time to spend with someone without them being a future prospect for long term committed relations of a non sugar.

    Now imagine if you meet 10 different men that are doing the same and all require 4-5 dates to test “chemistry”. We already know they’re not going to sit back and keep their hands to themselves. It’s going to be pushy antics and who wants to fight off 10 different time wasters for 50 dates at the price of dinner? No one has that kind of time and no one should commit that amount of time to anyone on this site. It’s ridiculous.

    Imagine if an SD did the same spending $500 per meet on 4-5 non sexual dates plus dinner. Go ahead and add that up! If he did that with 10 different SBs he’d be out of $25,000 without sex ha! Good luck suggesting that one.

  130. KeKe says:

    @ATL…Yaay! Sending more vibes your way!

    @ALL SD’s…How do you turn someone into an SB and is it cheaper? Lol

  131. KeKe says:

    @SDaddy… Cheaper really? I think it would be cheaper to find someone you have a genuine connection with. This would limit the flakes. The ones who are good for a couple of meets and disappear. Anyone can be good for a couple dates. Like me for example. I’m habitually late. Being on time was my New Year resolution. If you’re a stickler about that your done with me by date 4. Lol. I’ll probably be on time for only one. You might think it’s a ones off it’s only two dates.

  132. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @ATL – yes, editing is SORELY missed! Let’s hope the forums are up and running in the NEAR future!!!!!

    I’m excited for your IRL opportunity! Keep everyone posted! It does take longer to cultivate the IRL options, because of appearances to bystanders…and can be a bit tricky once engaged when you do cross paths often in mixed company.

    Your first post even said that you crossed “baths” which I thought would make for much better reading and interaction 😉

  133. THEATLSD says:

    That last line should be POT POT SB. I’m not in the market for a SD. I miss Disqus edit feature.

  134. THEATLSD says:

    That previous post was address to @ KEKE

  135. THEATLSD says:

    Early in this blog or previous one. I had posted that I had a IRL prime candidate so basically a Potential Pot.
    Even though I was planning on taking a sugar break until fall, this is too good to pass up and not give it a try.
    Without going into details we cross baths 1-3 times a weeks, there are other people around so I to have tread lightly.
    I am getting a good vibe from her but don’t want to misread the situation. (This is where a wing woman would be helpful) Last week when we crossed paths I was hoping for a little give and take and there was a lot more then expected so this week I was hoping it continued and it did. I will keep you posted on POT POT SD.

  136. Josh says:

    “Getting to know” is a sham, which very rarely pans out. Even if it does, it would be extremely expensive for the SD.

    If a woman can get $3,000/month just for breathing, she will either try to repeat the money-for-nothing with another SD or raise her demands for the time when she does something.

  137. SuperDaddy says:

    If i wanted to pay for 4 dinner dates before sex why would I ever consider an allowance or anything similar?
    I would just date in the conventional way.
    That would actually easier and cheaper than your version of SA.

  138. cryptic anomaly says:

    @ FlyR & YouGottbeKiddingme – Yes exactly that in terms of the getting to know you stage. As I mentioned previously one of the other blogs mentions to not talk about some things. The problem is you want to break the ice and see what each other are all about, you have one thing you definitely know you have in common which is Sugar so talk about that. I like to know what a woman wants from the deal if it is money, or gifts or whatever is of value to her, sometimes it is something that isn’t tangible.

    By talking about all of that stuff you break the ice and find out pretty quickly if you are compatible or not. Might not be so important in a P4P but even then I would suspect that you both want to have some comfort factor around each other.

    My usual method is to have 2-4 meetings/dates and just chat, I am rather cynical so I like to see if someone is playing a game with me or not as you can pretend once or twice maybe but cracks tend to appear pretty quickly if they are lying to me.

  139. yougottabekiddingme says:

    Re: Getting to know each other

    I quickly lose interest in the tedious back and forth, inch-at-a-time exchanges. I think it helps when you are both able to convey and gather a good sense of each other through your profile and correspondence. When the time comes for an in-person meet-and-greet and subsequent visits, it’s nice to have already established chemistry. I think it moves things past the awkward stages a bit more fluidly.

    One of the biggest things is actually being the person you present. The online presentation has to translate in real time.

    For me, the “get to know you” stage is more a matter of getting comfortable with love/arrangement languages, if you will, and getting to establish sexual compatibility.

    During these initial stages, I don’t think there are “expectations” for sugar in either direction. Though I do find it reasonable, expected and appreciated for the potential gent to cover date expenses, and for the potential lady to express interest and attraction through gestures of affection. I think that small gestures in both directions are appreciated bonuses.

    In some cases, I think an extended period of get-to-know-you can work, if you’re both enjoying each other’s company sans sugar. Extended get-to-know-you periods and platonic arrangements with sugar aren’t oft happening.

  140. KeKe says:

    @Struggle. So MIA lately. Your boo must be back in town :-)

  141. yougottabekiddingme says:

    Struggs!!!

    Hey, lady 😀

    All well?

  142. flyR says:

    How long does it take to “get to know” a sugar partner?

    If you start with the foundational agreement that sugar is discussed openly along with other dimensions of the relationship and time is taken to learn about the other person it should not take to long. Making sugar and intimacy concurrent seems to help with the velocity.

  143. cryptic anomaly says:

    @ Charlotte – There really wasn’t any drama involved. If you get the wrong SB or in your case SD you risk drama as well of different types. Just depends on your partner really.

    @ Rembodler – You don’t pay while you wait for intimacy. If she expects to be paid anything while she decides if she is ready or not than clearly this is not for her.

  144. KeKe says:

    @Josh..I quit with you! Lol

    @GP..yeah… I think most women want a love like the that… ” A notebook” type of love. I end up doing a “ugly cry” every time I watch it. Puffy eyes and snotty nose. Lol

  145. StruggleIsReal says:

    @MrsPeach
    Tearing me up upon my return! That’s lovely. Reminds me of a country song I love– “This Ain’t Nothing” by Craig Morgan.

    @YGBKM
    HAI!!!

  146. Promise says:

    Good night GP.

  147. yougottabekiddingme says:

    [covers mouth]

  148. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    Ok. Sorry. Said my piece. Rough few wks here and more to come. And given I have to get up before the crack of dawn, I bid you all peace and good will. Night all.

  149. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    @KeKe
    You are so right about just knowing each other’s “love language.” It didn’t take long before late husb and I were finishing each other’s sentences, almost knowing what the other was thinking or about to say. It was give and take and take and give between us. He washed, I dried sort of thing. Sometimes I washed, he dried. LOL And for me, it wasn’t the gifts, etc, it was about just BEING with him in that moment. A walk in the park or just sitting and holding his hand on the sofa. And after he became ill, it was helping him do anything he wanted. I gave him ALL I had.

    If you want to know what REAL love is, watch a husband hold his dying wife’s hand as I did for almost 3 wks last yr before she passed. My parents were married for over 63 yrs.

  150. Josh says:

    Sweetheart, the love languages business comes into play when the two of them are on the unnecessary path already. 😉

  151. KeKe says:

    @Josh… and physical touch! I must not forget that. It my other love language. 😉

  152. KeKe says:

    @Josh

    Women in general are incapable of loving men the way men love women.

    True. I feel the reverse is also true. I think in general people have different ways of expressing their love and if you don’t know and understand their love language you’ll never love them the way they prefer to be loved.

    My love language is quality time. I don’t need or want expensive”thing”. I won’t look back in life and think about the expensive necklace my SD bought me for my birthday. I’ll remember the book about Germany he gave me while pouring over all the places he wants to show me and if I go the trip. That is my husband’s disconnect with me. He thinks because he is not spending every weekend with his “boys” until 3am like he did for 8yrs. I should be happy. I’m not. He’s home but doesn’t talk to me or even try to have sex with me.

    His is acts of service. When I cook or clean or do anything around the house it’s showing love. So that’s what he does. He gives me a clean house and a maintained yard. But that is his love language not mines. So we have a disconnect. I did the wifey stuff (his love language) but he never gave me my love language. If you don’t know how the other wants to be love it’s not going to work. That goes for both men and women.

  153. yougottabekiddingme says:

    “How often do you hear women laying down their lives for their men?”

    Love…

    An actual battlefield. Obviously.

  154. Josh says:

    @KeKe

    “@Josh…are you anti love?! Lol”

    Women in general are incapable of loving men the way men love women. How often do you hear women laying down their lives for their men? For women, men are utilities. Therefore, deciding to start loving a random woman is a lose-lose situation for men.

  155. KeKe says:

    @Josh…LMAO! It wasn’t shit at all. He was just randomly using the word. Probably heard my future ex say it about some clutter I had on the kitchen counter or our bedroom. He’s a neat freak. Lol

  156. KeKe says:

    @Josh…are you anti love?! Lol

  157. Josh says:

    Must be dog shit?

  158. KeKe says:

    Night ATL!!

  159. KeKe says:

    @GP…funny story.. When my son was 4 or 5..we outside and I can’t remember what we were doing but my son pointed to something and said,”what’s that shit?”. At first I just looked at him. I was so surprised. So I asked him,” What did you say”. He looked at me so serious and impatiently said, “what’s that shit?”. I was dying inside. I had to walk away. I came back and said, “shit is a bad word. Little kids shouldn’t use that word” . He just nodded his head so serious-like and, “oh okay… but mama what is that! “

  160. THEATLSD says:

    @Keke. Thanks. I will explain tomorrow I need to go to bed I have to get up in a few hours.

  161. KeKe says:

    @Josh…great article. One of my coworkers just did a paper on artificial sweetners. Scary stuff!
    I booked mark the article about EFT. Looks very interesting.

  162. Josh says:

    @rembodler

    Correct. There’s no hope when SA is hell-bent on egging these women on to screw men over any which way they can. They even came up with a contest @ONSD mentioned earlier.

    OnlineNewbieSD says:
    May 27, 2015 at 7:46 pm
    Oh, I’m now officially disgusted with SA…my SB profile got an email today from SA with a contest to follow SA on Instagram, post beat SB swag pix and win red bottom heels…almost exact words…no wonder the blog is so focused on SB, denigrating SD, push for posters against SD perspective…so depressing!

  163. Josh says:

    “he loves her and wants to care for her for the rest of their lives?”

    Duh!!!

  164. rembodler says:

    Josh says:
    June 1, 2015 at 7:09 pm @rembodler. I was just going easy on our latest delay-in-intimacy SB-wanna-be through the question approach.

    You are becoming too lenient, oh Guru-san…;-). These youngsters, they do need some stern whip.

  165. Josh says:

    @Keke, correct. She can whine about family issues to her girlfriends. That’s what girlfriends are for!!!

  166. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    @ONSD and @KeKe
    Folks, it’s all in how the kids are taught and what the example is at home.
    My son thought “Stupid” was a “BAD” word that should never be said, until he was about 10. LOL The interesting thing is when they hit about 12 or so and they think they are not being heard saying bitch or words that rhyme with that, or worse – and YOU hear them. I had so much trouble NOT laughing out loud.
    Course, I will admit late husb did hear 3 yr old stepping on bugs at grandma’s house, screaming, “Damn Ants!” LOL. He said it took him about 4 times, asking son what exactly son said before it sank it. Of course, by that time, child had said, “Damn Ants” multiple times and by then, in front of the grandmother. LOL

    @Josh
    “I just don’t understand why a man would want to make a pain-in-the-ass gf/wife out of a sweet sugarbaby.”
    Joshua Honey, perhaps because, um, he loves her and wants to care for her for the rest of their lives?

  167. KeKe says:

    @Josh

    Only the part where she is slaying dragons. That part is also totally her and excites me to hopefully help her with.

    So your saying if she’s a go getter your more invested. Yes, that would be exciting/ inspiring. Much more interesting to hear someone talk about how they are improving their life versus moan about their woes.

  168. Josh says:

    “@Charlotte.. They say chocolate gives you the same effect as love.. none of them seem good for you. Lol”

    I think it is sugar and not necessarily chocolate. An experiment on mice showed that 94% mice preferred sugar over cocaine.

    [http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2007/08/23/is-sugar-more-addictive-than-cocaine.aspx]

  169. KeKe says:

    @Josh..she looks amazing!

  170. Josh says:

    @KeKe

    “@Josh… lmao..have you ever had an emotional connection with your SB, where you wanted to know about their life outside of you?”

    Only the part where she is slaying dragons. That part is also totally her and excites me to hopefully help her with.

  171. KeKe says:

    @Josh… lmao..have you ever had an emotional connection with your SB, where you wanted to know about their life outside of you?

    @All. I would think an SD would always question if the feeling are real and genuine if it started out as sugar. That’s why I deleted my profile.

    @Charlotte.. They say chocolate gives you the same effect as love.. none of them seem good for you. Lol

  172. Josh says:

    @rembodler

    I was just going easy on our latest delay-in-intimacy SB-wanna-be through the question approach. 😉

  173. Josh says:

    This photo is just WOW!!!

    [https://twitter.com/DavidCaplanNYC/status/605416851825410050/photo/1]

  174. rembodler says:

    I find the idea of “waiting for intimacy until we know each other better” totally preposterous and incongruent with the SA concept. What is that I need to know about her – that cannot be learned after we bed each other? After all, it is not a gift she bestows on me; I am expected to pay the tuition etc. Truth be told, I never had that problem, someone “wanting to know me”. If anything, everyone I met wanted to secure the arrangement in a way it is normally secured.

  175. KeKe says:

    @All… has anyone seen Caitlyn Jenner? She looks better than Bruce! !

    @Cryptic…you have mail!

  176. Josh says:

    @Charlotte

    Great analogy. :)

  177. Josh says:

    Today my SB started talking about all the family shit she is going through. I cannot imagine having to deal with that if I were in a regular “relationship” with her.

  178. Charlotte says:

    @Crypic

    I have nothing aganist it, but it would be hard to seperate yourself from, and a lot of drama in the end.

    I even like the idea…

  179. cryptic anomaly says:

    @ Josh and Charlotte – To me it didn’t feel much different to sugar really but that is probably also due to what I’m normally like and what I enjoy doing.

  180. Charlotte says:

    @Josh

    It is like cocain effect, it is sweet feels rewarding so you need more and more and get your life ruined? I never did drugs but read love and cocain had the same effect, probably they both ruin your life in a way ( lauging ).

    Why would a SB want a real BF out of a SD? It is boring.

  181. Josh says:

    @IHF2030

    “Hmm, I wonder, how often to sugar arrangements morph into real relationships?”

    I hope not too often. I just don’t understand why a man would want to make a pain-in-the-ass gf/wife out of a sweet sugarbaby.

  182. yougottabekiddingme says:

    re: whatsapp

    I like it, too. I mostly use it to communicate with my international friends, but have found it nice for sugar chatting as well.

    Had one potential flip out at the suggestion, though. Went all paranoid-schizo then dumped me. Ha.

    Good thing my number is linked through my Hushed account.

  183. cryptic anomaly says:

    @IHF2030 – I have had a woman who started off as a SB become a girlfriend. We didn’t even do the arrangement thing at all. She liked me and that was it. If you read many of the profiles from SB’s a lot of them read more like dating profiles than women seeking a business transaction. Although obviously they will still get spoiled anyway.

  184. IHF2030 says:

    Hmm, I wonder, how often to sugar arrangements morph into real relationships?

  185. cryptic anomaly says:

    @Keke – Still waiting on that email!

    For me it is about hanging out, I just want it really laid back and also to have some connection with the SB. I guess there is a risk of developing feelings that but that could happen with anything even P4P. Just depends on how heavy those feelings get.

  186. KeKe says:

    @Charlotte… I have Whatsapp! It’s how I communicate with my SD.
    :-)

    @Cryptic…Why do you want a girlfriend experience with sugar? Is it so you can have the experience without the headache of a real girlfriend? Don’t think the that opens you up to one or both of you developing real feeling that can cause complications?

  187. Josh says:

    @boldlyshy

    “intimacy eventually”

    Are you a virgin?

  188. Josh says:

    @ONSD

    “@hot – you’re going to have @Josh jumping in because you’re talking about magazines and advice for women ”

    Facebook (the photo exchange network for women of all ages) is full of such “advice.”

    People can post whatever the fuck they want. It’s their First Amendment right. However, if/when they start dishing out specific sugar advice, then time permitting I “may” chime in. 😉

    PS: I have been pretty busy with stuff lately, so I am not posting much. You are the Guru by default. LOL!!!

  189. flyR says:

    @Charlotte “Many and a many girls on SA are looking for a SD to change something in their life but it always starts with clothes and shoes and and purses.”

    Those are usually the ones who disappear at the first level of filtering. Some of the more successful SB’s have weighed in on the relative value of stuff cash mentoring/helping with connections
    Stuff is a distant third unless the cash is going to the boyfriend or drug dealer assuming they are different folks.

  190. Josh says:

    ‘Tis time for a new blog.

  191. cryptic anomaly says:

    @Boldyshy – Yes you can build a relationship first. It is probably better and nicer to do that unless you both want and agree on P4P of course. There aren’t any hard and fast rules as to how this should all work.

    On one of the previous blogs here it had some pretty bad advice in my opinion, saying not to talk about certain things. In my opinion everything should be spoken about, communication should be upfront and honest, expectations expressed on both sides.

    For me and I think many SD’s no money or allowances would change hands until an agreement is made and there is some proof of the SB’s interest/commitment. So if the SB is serious about building a relationship than that is fine but she might have to be content without allowances etc before an agreement is settled on.

    That is my ideal situation to be honest, I want a girlfriend experience as I have heard it referred to as.

  192. Josh says:

    @Promise

    I find red pill stuff interesting to know what the logical arguments red pillers use to go their own way. It is fascinating stuff, which helps validate my own observations of how women roll.

    I am not a MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way). I am MGPTOW (Men Getting Pussy Their Own Way).

  193. Charlotte says:

    This blog needs a a kind of whatapp or skype group probably.

  194. LadyScarlett says:

    ‘So my question would be…is it normal for SDs/SBs to get to know each other for awhile before they become intimate, like they would in a typical relationship?’

    @boldshy, yes, it can be like that–very much so, depending on the man. Some here prefer things to developp that way, in fact.

  195. KeKe says:

    @ATL…throwing the vibe! Did you catch it? :-)

    What’s going on? Why do you need it?

  196. THEATLSD says:

    @All. Can Y’all throw some sugar vibe at me. Thanks

  197. KeKe says:

    @YGTBKM… I’m glad your weather is nicer than Chicago’S. Have fun enjoying it!

  198. yougottabekiddingme says:

    @KeKe and ATL

    Hey, guys :). Sorry to post and run the other day. Went on an impromptu excursion this weekend. Ive been well, thank you. Have been working and traveling quite a bit lately. Couldnt ask for a better spring and early summer. Well…I suppose I could, but it’s been substantially pleasant thus far, so I’ll just enjoy it as it comes.

    @ Georgia

    Hello there, sweets ;). Keeping it naughty but nice, eh? Cheers to that.

    @Nephesh

    You are brazen yet brilliant. Yep, a rare gem. Also, I thought your comments regarding biased blog posts were objective and well-written. I dont know your story, but you seem to be taking a proactive approach to your own growth while figuring out life in a way that works for you. In time youll discover ways in which to dance to the beat of your own drum while fine-tuning it to the rhythms of the world in which you wish to thrive. Yep, it’s essential. Once you master this art, youll find yourself in substantially swell places. Uh huh, you will.

    Anyway, if you still happen to be reading…welcome along. And if you happen to find yourself off-put by the goings on here…just take a hiatus and restore a little faith in humanity. Im not completely sure that people mean actual harm here…there are a few things to be learned in the midst of it all. I do hope you are able to find some things useful to your honing and pursuit :).

    @Hot

    Nice list. Thanks for sharing.

    Great to see some new contributors around!

    @all

    Cheers to healthy, happy sugaring! I’ll drink to that :D.

  199. KeKe says:

    @ Online. . Damn! She doesn’t have a brother or male cousin to take care of that. I had a guy try to intimidate me with stalking. But my dad side is cops and my mom side…let’s just say I know people. Lol. Anyway I told my cousins on my mom side and problem solved. Never heard from him again. She need to call in some favors or call the cops. The longer it continues the worse it will get.

  200. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @KeKEe – yeah, thought I was safe for spelling…guess I shouldn’t have been so focused on early education and letter recognition 😉

    On the other topic…yeah, I have said that…but…the shit he’s pulling is actually scary, like actual stalking shit and technological stalking…

  201. rembodler says:

    @Boldlyshy
    I have never went on more then 2 dates on SA before the arrangement was consummated. As irl and more so on SA there is a concern on woman’s part, if she makes it too difficult, the gent will go elsewhere.
    And, unless you can offer him something very special, he likely will.

  202. KeKe says:

    @Online! Lol…nooo. lol. I feel better. That’s as bad as me

  203. KeKe says:

    @Online… I would just end it. I’m trying to not to become anymore emotional invested than I am. Less chance of “sabotage”. But he is just a genuinely nice guy. The more I get to know him the more I realize how wealthy and cultured he is. But he is so down to earth. I feel extremely comfortable around him. BUT… I still would walk away if he started acting like the guy your talking about.

  204. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @KeKe – I loved it the first time I said “tell your mother to stop being a b-i-t-c-h” (spelling it out) and the not even two year old turned and looked at wifey and smiled and said “b-i-t-c-h”…really earned some brownie points on that one!

  205. KeKe says:

    I need to work on #48. I curse like a sailor. I never realized it until my son broke a crayon at daycare and said, ” what the hell”. That was embarrassing…

  206. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    I think I shared the story about the past contact that found out her boyfriend had a SA profile…he treated her like crap…she’s now reluctant to try to end things (he’s pulling some scary shit on her)…you feeling like it is bf/gf with your man was more what she thought…now,she just doesn’t know what to do…

  207. KeKe says:

    @Online.. how did I underscore your point?

  208. Catcher 22 says:

    @Hot. Thank you for sharing the 100 points list. Sure, some of the points seem dated, but overall the list is full of basic wisdom that could benefit most of us. Too many people, and not just the younger generation, are truly clueless when it comes to what constitutes basic manners, elegance and class. Perhaps SA could adopt the list as a future blog topic.

  209. THEATLSD says:

    @Hot. I go all out for my SB and get Luvs Baby Soft or Lip Smacker.

    @Boldly. Welcome to the dark side. There are still a few classic SD left, like Online and myself. It seems fewer out there. As far as intimacy after 4-5 meets something should be going on doesn’t have to full boar but moving that way.

  210. Charlotte says:

    @Boldly

    My sugardaddy and I are dating, no intimacy so far, he is very responsive to my needs, exams and tells me about his day everynight by mail. We live in diffirent countries.

    So I guess you don’t get intimate immeditely but it is like you don’t get an allowance immediately either. For some people at least.

    You can find a man with whom you connect and really like if you don’t mind the age gap. If you really didn’t like him at all, it could be annoying for him to keep you as his SB either. These things works on both sides, SD pots are as much human as SB pots.

    Good luck in your search.

  211. boldlyshy says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD Thanks for getting back to me so quickly! c: I like your icon.

    I’m looking for more of a boyfriend/girlfriend type of relationship, which would of course include intimacy eventually. I’d want someone that I connect with intellectually, and emotionally. I would prefer an exclusive arrangement — if the SD had other lovers, I’d understand, but for my own safety, I’m not sure if I would feel comfortable.

    So my question would be…is it normal for SDs/SBs to get to know each other for awhile before they become intimate, like they would in a typical relationship?

  212. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @boldlyshy – half the comments on here make it seem like it’s an escort site because there is a significant majority of members that treat it like it is an escort site. It’s called pay2play (p2p) or pay4play (p4p) sugar.

    You can find many willing participants on BOTH sides of the arrangement on this site…

    However

    You WILL find SDs that are looking for a “relationship”…that includes intimacy…with you.

    If you are asking about a “relationship” where intimacy is NOT involved, you’re on the wrong site. Even the most mentor-type SDs will at some point want or demand intimacy…

    If you’re thinking more along the lines of boyfriend/girlfriend type relationship, that’s how I see Sugar, even though I’m married.

    Ask some more questions…welcome to the blog!

  213. hototrot1 says:

    @Charlotte

    “I like the list though, thanks Hot!”

    You’re welcome.

  214. boldlyshy says:

    I’m super new to this, and would appreciate advice. Half the comments make it seem like this is an escort site where men pay women for sex. Are there SDs here that you can build a relationship with?

  215. hototrot1 says:

    @Charlotte

    “Tying ( not sure about the spelling) a scarf on a bag is a bit like Dior/ Hermes / S. Ferragamo trick, it doesn’t look good unless it is a small but fine scarf, I love the look but hard to wear.”

    I like the look too, but it has to be a really nice scarf and bag combo. You’re correct about that.

  216. Charlotte says:

    Tying ( not sure about the spelling) a scarf on a bag is a bit like Dior/ Hermes / S. Ferragamo trick, it doesn’t look good unless it is a small but fine scarf, I love the look but hard to wear.

    About perfume, erm I love perfume, I cannot do without perfume, but I hate bath&body works kind of scents, it smells too sweet and heavy. A little bit of a good quality perfume ( EDT not EDP) doesn’t smell unless you come close enough to kiss.

    And wearing perfume has perks like vanilla scents turn women on subconsiosly and lavender scents turn men on subconsciously.

    I like the list though, thanks Hot!

  217. Promise says:

    @Josh Do you take “red pills”?

  218. hototrot1 says:

    @ONSD

    “@hot – you’re going to have @Josh jumping in because you’re talking about magazines and advice for women ”

    Nothing to fear but fear itself. HaHa.

    I had a boyfriend once who didn’t like me wearing perfume or makeup. It was cool, but I missed my perfume. I’ve never been big on makeup.

  219. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @hot – you’re going to have @Josh jumping in because you’re talking about magazines and advice for women 😉

    Also…so you know…it’s not the sweet “cheap” scents that set my allergies off…it’s almost everything…

  220. hototrot1 says:

    “when someone reads to have a signature scent”

    Unless the sb has never picked up a woman’s fashion magazine in her life, that’s not new advice. Some people young and old just don’t know how to use fragrances or makeup. Some people never have parental figures or elders who teach them anything. I was a tomboy until I was about 25 (late bloomer here!) but I never forgot the teachings.

  221. hototrot1 says:

    @ONSD
    “@hot – okay, that makes some sense…you should have prefaced it or something!

    Man…but…I hope some SBs listen to my comment! I have allergies and a couple of times I’ve been almost physically ill because of the perfume!

    Of course, there’s also the quantity issue that plays into the equation with allergies as well ”

    That’s why I usually mix my scents with baby oil or just get the lotion version. Sprays can be overwhelming. And I only use good stuff. Nothing like sickeningly sweet, cheap perfume. Yuck!

  222. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @hot – the trouble is that, especially with the younger generation nowadays, text is a literal medium…emotionless…when someone reads to have a signature scent, she may be bathing in it (at least that’s been some of my experiences)…of course those were usually the “Light Smoker” that were obviously chain smoking “light” cigarettes – it would be hilarious if it weren’t true!

  223. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @hot – okay, that makes some sense…you should have prefaced it or something!

    Man…but…I hope some SBs listen to my comment! I have allergies and a couple of times I’ve been almost physically ill because of the perfume!

    Of course, there’s also the quantity issue that plays into the equation with allergies as well 😉

  224. hototrot1 says:

    @ONSD

    “Oh, and elegance is best WITHOUT cologne/perfume because of possible allergies with your guests…same with candles, spritzes on sheets, etc.”

    You’re too literal.

  225. hototrot1 says:

    @ONSD

    I found it on some website a long time ago. Some of it is useful. I look at it from time to time. I think it might have originated in the 1800’s LOL.

    I posted it because someone else my find use in it as well. I have a very elegant grandmother and the longer I live I find her advice very useful. A lot of the advice sounds like stuff she told me that I rejected when I was younger.

  226. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @hot – what prompted that? I started looking through, but some read like they came out of the 1800’s! Tie a scarf on your handbag…REALLY?

    Sorry…there were others that hit me as well, but the scarf on the handbag just had me scratching my head!

    Oh, and elegance is best WITHOUT cologne/perfume because of possible allergies with your guests…same with candles, spritzes on sheets, etc.

  227. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @cucumber – remember Mr. 70 or Mr. 60 still live under the belief that for enough money, they can have a FYT on their arm, or in their bed…

    This goes to @FunDude’s formula for sugar…

    Allowance is directly proportional to the chances SD can find and “land” someone of the SB’s caliber on his own, IRL. If the chances are fairly common, he’s not going to spend a lot on her…if chances are like a snowballs chances in hell, he’s going to have to pay (sometimes significantly) for her company/intimacy…

    Now, I know that’s not exactly what @FunDude said, but I think that’s the way it can be said…because…even if he’s 40, a bit overweight, but still athletic, full head of hair, treats women with respect and dignity…if he can’t land a 20yo size 2 IRL (because it’s a snowball’s chance) he’s got to pay something 😉

    If he’s mid 30s, got a washboard stomach, all the right build and hair and such, he’s probably able to find a 20-21yo size 2 and take a crack without being laughed out of the club, so he’s paying much less, if at all 😉

  228. hototrot1 says:

    100 Ways to be Elegant
    1. Send Thank you notes, always and to everyone.
    2. Practice good posture
    3. Speak more softly
    4. Listen without interrupting
    5. Wear solid colors
    6. Ignore fads, or use them sparingly
    7. Have a signature wine that you serve at home
    8. Wear only 2-3 accessories
    9. Have impeccable manners
    10. Read on a variety of topics
    11. Maintain a budget
    12. Study the arts
    13. Have one signature perfume/cologne
    14. Show restraint in expressing anger
    15. Learn the art of conversation
    16. Learn French
    17. Wear a trench coat
    18. Learn how to wear a scarf
    19. Wear a tuxedo, when one is called for
    20. Practice quality over quantity
    21. Don’t yell or scream
    22. Learn to dance the waltz
    23. Have one fabulous signature meal you serve guests
    24. Remember birthdays
    25. Go on picnics
    26. Wear dresses/suits more often, and on dates
    27. Simplify your life, your home and your calendar
    28. Wear pearls
    29. Open the door for ladies
    30. Let him open the door for you
    31. Remember that it’s more important to be kind than it is to be right
    32. Serve coffee or tea after meals
    33. Arrive exactly on time
    34. Don’t complain
    35. Dress to travel
    36. Be well travelled
    37. If you’re a women, don’t wear black shoes between Memorial Day and Labor Day…wear spectator pumps instead
    38. Keep your home clean and uncluttered
    39. When guests stay over, put a small pitcher and glass for water on their nightstand, along with a book they might enjoy
    40. Learn how to host a small dinner party
    41. Have one subdued solid color scheme throughout your home, use accessories to add color
    42. Learn how to make the perfect martini
    43. Learn how to tie both a regular tie and a bow tie (whether you’re a man or a woman)
    44. Be a lady or a gentleman at work, especially when delivering a difficult message or when tempers flare
    45. Wear lovely/handsome hats
    46. Don’t point out the mistakes of others
    47. Wait your turn patiently
    48. Don’t curse
    49. Chew each bite 20 times
    50. Sip your drink
    51. Learn proper etiquette for all situations
    52. Accept compliments graciously
    53. Be quietly self confident
    54. Don’t boast
    55. Be respectful of others
    56. Have fresh flowers in your home
    57. Write a letter rather than send an email to those you love
    58. Keep your nails well manicured
    59. Maintain your shoes and clothing
    60. Don’t ever lose your joie de vivre
    61. Be well groomed
    62. Remember that money does not equal elegance, nor is it necessary to be elegant
    63. Wear less make-up
    64. Wear well-fitting clothes
    65. Spray lavender on your sheets
    66. Be positive
    67. Learn to politely say no
    68. Be concerned with making others feel comfortable
    69. Maintain good health
    70. Don’t overindulge
    71. Hold yourself to high standards
    72. Turn your mobile off at dinner PLEASE
    73. Wear simple, classic hairstyles
    74. Think before you speak or act. Ask yourself, can anything good come from this?
    75. Apologize quickly and sincerely
    76. Have integrity, even when no one is looking.
    77. Don’t speak ill of others, or gossip
    78. Always take a gift to your host or hostess
    79. Tie a scarf on your handbag
    80. Take a clutch in the evening
    81. Wear well fitting jeans with either a long sleeve white shirt or solid sweater for more casual events
    82. Only wear sneakers for exercise
    83. Use white sheets, white towels, white dishes
    84. Be sure your clothes are pressed
    85. Your car’s horn should say “pardon me, but do you see me?”, rather than “get out of my way!”
    86. Overdo empathy
    87. Light candles in your home
    88. Go for walks in the park on Sunday
    89. Give others sincere compliments
    90. Understand your own worth
    91. Learn how to open a bottle of champagne
    92. Dress appropriately for the occasion
    93. Do small favors for others, without expecting anything in return
    94. Say please and thank you
    95. Take the time to stop and listen to others, especially children
    96. Take responsibility for yourself and your own happiness
    97. Keep a journal
    98. Give thoughtful gifts, rather than expensive ones
    99. Less is more
    100. Savor the moment

  229. CucumberOnLids says:

    @cucumber – I posted numbers for SBs, not SDs for you! Was that right, or did you mistype what you wanted?

    What was your search for?

    No it was exactly what I needed Online Thank you again:) I was trying to figure out if it was really hard for Mr. 70 year old to find women around him that are maybe closer to his age.

    Another 60 year old Pot ( Not for me because umm no to unprotected whatever the hell) We’ve talked for what seems like three weeks and I asked him why hasn’t he moved to one of the 55+ communities too. He’s paying over $2300 a month for an apartment where he spends many months traveling. He could save up to 15k a year if he moved closer to the beach and moved into one of the active senior communities.

    The 70 year old lives only blocks away from Leisure World but acts as if there aren’t any women around. It’s like hello these are active senior communities right there.

  230. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @cucumber – I posted numbers for SBs, not SDs for you! Was that right, or did you mistype what you wanted?

    What was your search for?

  231. CucumberOnLids says:

    #FrakOffPatientZero

  232. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @KeKe – I had a point to the question…and you actually underscored my advice to someone with your elaboration in the answer!

    I wouldn’t roast you for being with a married guy in more of a bf/gf situation…that would be my PREFERENCE for the “feel” of the arrangement anyways!

  233. KeKe says:

    @Online. . I would either go straight hood and curse him out or become a fabulous actresses and try to get more “sugar” from him. After I cried a bucket of tears.

    And not because he is on SA but because we have a girlfriend/boyfriend type of relationship. I’ve just been referring to him as SD to distance myself because he’s not staying and he’s married.

    Don’t roast me here. I’m being honest. Lol

  234. CucumberOnLids says:

    Thank You OnlineNewbie!!
    Kisses!
    So @cucumber – there were 0 in location only, so I did the 50-mile radius

    45-55 471
    56-60+ 59

    I’m about to give Mr. 70 year old a piece of my mind. Actually nevermind he’s already wasted enough of my time with his lies.

    I feel like a walking GoogleGlass since some of these guys get the brilliant idea to use 40 year old pictures.

    By the time I meet them I’m sitting there searching their face,looking at where their eyes, mouth and nose line up and then saying “ohh there he is!”. So annoying!

    I will never meet anyone that can’t talk allowance first. I decided to take a different approach and that was a dumb move on my part.

    Thanks again Online:)

    In better news I’m sticking with the 46 and down crowd. Ease in conversation, they get to the point about what they’re looking for and I don’t feel I’ve aged a decade talking to them. Plus not once have I been asked for unprotected anything. So there’s a few handsome guys that contacted me thus far so a few Pot meets for the week. One is like “ooh you’re hot” and he’s 39! Yes!

    Every single one of these 58+ is pushing for unprotected sex. Gross. One guy tried ooh you’re going to be my future wife! Riiight do I look desperate to get married? Stupid.

  235. Promise says:

    @ONSD Gotcha. I’m basically here every day until my driving school starts since I’m on summer vacation now.

  236. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @KeKe – meaning you didn’t find him in your searches, but now that you’re “together” you find him on the front page of SA or something as you’re helping someone build a profile…

  237. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @KeKe – that’s right…now the brain is connecting dots again 😉

    So…how would you feel if your SD (since you met him IRL, this is important) had a profile on here and you found it?

  238. KeKe says:

    @Online…Sexy Looked at it and said it wasn’t bad but to change a couple things. I did but I literally met my SD IRL right after so I wasn’t on much. Then I deleted it because I freaked that he might find me on here. Lol

  239. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Promise – it does mean something that you’re here…if you see me get a couple of messages together, and it’s been like a half-hour between posts and no one else is talking, just let me know I’m not talking to myself 😉

  240. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @flyR – this is the first that crass, out of the blue, for me…I’ve had responses to my first message be that crass, but nothing sent to me without provocation!

  241. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @cucumber – there were 0 in location only, so I did the 50-mile radius

    45-55 471
    56-60+ 59

  242. Promise says:

    “@Russian – are you here? I feel like I’m talking to myself again!”
    I’m here if that means anything. Hi.

  243. flyR says:

    @online

    I get notes like that on occasion . I think the first of the month and rent due stimulates them

  244. flyR says:

    cucumber you need a radius with the Zip unless it is huge

  245. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @KeKe – Did you ever ask for guidance on your profile?

  246. flyR says:

    @ Charlotte – I loved the French countryside and you are correct that the people are generally a lot friendlier, especially if you know a few words of French. But I could sit for hours in a sidewalk cafe in Paris watching the women walking by. There’s such an awesome natural enthusiasm and sensuality and energy.

    Tragically I see France in a death spiral The politics of France has made it too expensive to have children and their immigration policies have brought foreigners who share no interest in their culture.

  247. CucumberOnLids says:

    @OnlineNewie-Can you do a search for me? SBs 45-55 SBs 56-90 ZIP 90740

  248. KeKe says:

    @Josh and Online…. I’m going to have you do my next profile. I’m pretty sure online’s shitty SB profile gets more traction than I did. Lol

    @Catcher.. thanks so much. I looked on the site when Struggle first mentioned it but didn’t notice any corsets. I’ll look again.

  249. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Russian – are you here? I feel like I’m talking to myself again!

  250. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – You’ll appreciate this…JUST got a message from a SB profile on here, unprovoked (meaning I had not visited her profile, saw her in a search result or had any other contact AT ALL):

    SB: Let me blow your cock, and your mind.

    Visit her profile (because I can’t believe the audacity to lead with this)…

    “classy” college student (hey, at least she didn’t go to collage!)
    “stylish”, “outgoing”, “attractive” were other words she used to describe herself…all she could say about what she was looking for was something about taking good care of someone that takes good care of her…

    I think I’m actually going to report this because of the message…

  251. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Charlotte – @Josh has a point…if I were a young woman LIVING Sugar, knowing what I know now…I would be very successful…if I had no experience and had to listen to my peers, I would suck as Sugar…if I were a SB my age, with my experiences, I would probably do just fine with the right person…but it would take the right person…

  252. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Charlotte – I don’t think there’s an emotional or psychological WEAKNESS in paying someone before you meet…I just can’t imagine doing it myself.

    However, I have and will compensate for travel if she’s making her way to me, or for childcare if she needs a sitter for our time together…but…even then, it’s given AT the first meet, not before.

    I’m not one to demand clothing specific to a meeting…most of the time, it’s more about how the clothes look on the floor or at the foot of the bed anyways 😉

  253. Josh says:

    @Charlotte

    Knowing what I know how men and women roll, I would be VERY successful as a younger SB. However, if I were the same age as I am today, I would not be as successful, but would be more successful than the women my age.

    That said, it would be unfair to assume that much younger women would know how men (or even women successful with men) roll. I would be working off of horrible advice provided by peers; older women; and Cosmo, Ms, Elle, etal

  254. Charlotte says:

    @Online, It is possible to get paid without meeting but it is easy to think there is an either emotional or pyschological weakness in the paying person. If taking advantage of these weaknesses is ok, we are living a false a dream here.

    But being rational isn’t a very common trait, so yes everything is possible.

  255. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Charlotte – I agree…although I’m not sure I completely agree…there are some profiles written so blatantly that they deserve $5k to be in the same room and THINK about intimacy. Although, believing some on blog that there is opportunity to get paid that much or more without even meeting the person…who knows?

  256. Charlotte says:

    I believe there is at least some per play chance for everyone.

  257. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Charlotte – I would not be successful as a SB…although, my shitty SB profile I created to use for the numbers research seems to be attracting attention (and I made it as horrible as I would think it could be)…so…maybe there is hope for even the worst profile in connecting with someone?

  258. Charlotte says:

    I wonder how successful you would be as a SB OnlineNewbieSD and Josh.

    Online thanks for advices, again :)

  259. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    Here’s another tip for pictures in your profile…DELETE ALL THE SPLIT PICS and the MULTI PIC PICS!!!

    When you put more than one picture in a single frame, it can be confusing, and lead some pots to think “what’s being hidden?”

  260. Charlotte says:

    @FlyR

    I haven’t been to suburbs in Paris unless for the airport, but yes there are a lot of shows and nice places to visit and some of these places are really unique like Louvre, but I still think Paris is overrated, any big city in mediterranian climate offers various activities during summer.

    Talking about clothing and SD pots, mine must be reading the blog, sent me a link to buy some “nice” clothing because he wants me to dress-up in a specific manner.

  261. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    Being the blog’s resident “number’s guy” it dawned on me today…I have ALWAYS focused on the Expectation when I looked at things…what if I looked at the agism issue always addressed in horror stories and the reality of someone looking for something in a common age range…so, here are the numbers, again a 50 mile radius from my location, no filter for build, race, hair/eye, income, assets, expectation, smoking/drinking, etc.

    SB:
    18-23 552
    23-27 317
    27-32 180
    32-40 120
    40+ 85

    SD:
    18-23 7
    23-27 21
    27-32 39
    32-40 86
    40-50 110
    50-59 48
    60+ 17

    Of special note…I did NOT see a ton of inflated assets or income in the younger categories…many assets at 100k incomes at 50-75k. relatively doable in early 20s in a sales job.

    Also, for as many stories I have listened to about the guy being in his 80s, it must be he was told he looks like he’s in his 40s, because even the 50-59 was not overly represented in the numbers!

    Yes, I know I used the same starting number as the ending number from the previous category…this is the “fudge factor” I decided to use because not everyone is truthful with their age, so this gives some wiggle room for the classifications about how old someone is.

    If you have different priorities for grouping the ages, let me know…Here are my reasons (focused on the SB side obviously)
    18-23, younger generation, probably still undergrad or early career oriented
    23-27, early profession or extended graduate school (medical/legal type career minded woman)
    27-32, usually looking for something they haven’t experienced yet, career or family oriented but need something else
    32-40, either the first marriage didn’t work or some other life transition has prompted the investigation into Sugar
    40-60+, this would be the “older generation” of Sugar…still an audience, and usually just the same as 32-40.

  262. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    Oh, here’s another issue with pics:

    Carseats…if you’re taking a selfie in a car, and your profile says “0” for kids, make sure you can’t see the carseat in the back seat of your selfie…no matter what you say about being a nanny or babysitter, SD probably isn’t going to believe you…just saying

  263. jaybird923 says:

    The last anonymous was me Georgia

  264. flyR says:

    Re Paris

    Charlotte is right that there are wonderful places outside of Paris but there’s also a lot of fun things to do in Paris.

    There’s an energy in the city, especially on a summer evening that’s really special. But there are a lot of neighborhoods that are really sucky. .

  265. Anonymous says:

    @Georgia thanks for the chat I don’t get use it as much as I would like. Paris is a beautiful city and I hope you get a chance to see it

  266. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Cucumber – EXACTLY!

  267. CucumberOnLids says:

    Oh, and I really do HATE this format for the blog…does not make for a quick update on the happenings when I’ve been away.

    Sorry for anyone that asked me a question or addressed me specifically, if it’s important enough to you, repost or reask and I’ll see if it’s in the feed for me to respond!

    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    I felt the new Disqus was bringing people and chats closer plus you could respond to comments directly. Now you can’t remember what you wanted to post.

  268. CucumberOnLids says:

    ^I’d pass on that clown. @Reb

  269. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    @Charlotte
    I know. I’ve heard the stories. Friends have told me how rude the French are to Americans. But from my first French lesson in third grade, going there has been on my “bucket list.” My late husband hated to travel and would have never gone with me, even if and when we could have afforded it. There just seems to be something so, I don’t know, magical about the city, sitting on a sidewalk café, wondering the streets, listening to the people, watching reactions, etc. Oh well, perhaps another life.

    See ya’ll, another busy day in HOT’Lanta. Bye for now!

  270. THEATLSD says:

    @Catcher22
    Thanks Major Major

    @Reb
    That sounds too good to be true. I would proceed with caution.

  271. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Charlotte – I wouldn’t know if it ever happens, but I’m guessing the way I’ve had reactions from SB profiles on SA, it will happen from the SD as well (meaning, I’ve been told that from SB profiles…why wouldn’t the reverse happen?)

  272. Charlotte says:

    @GeorgiaPeach

    I live/ study in Paris, maybe we can have some wine, if you visit Paris, or find a parisian SD. But it is truly overrated. There are nicer places in France, but Paris is “oh la la Parii!” untill you realise you need a gas mask to take subway :)

  273. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – thanks for that…you’re exactly right…my point was he probably isn’t interested in HER, just her clothes.

    I think I’ve made it clear before, I have no problem with someone who is gay.

  274. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    Here are some more picture tips, as I glance through the search results this morning…in no particular order of importance…

    1. if you list body type as “Slim”, it is important to make sure your one public photo is not of you in a poncho/moomoo/beach-coverup…especially if you have breasts…it just makes you LOOK big! Wear something form fitting, it will help the SD know you understand your body.
    2. if you used to be a model, don’t blur your profile pic of when you WERE a model (even through the blur, you still look 20 years younger than clear profile pics) and put clear pictures of your current body type (internet average, certainly not real life average)…you need to own your body NOW to have someone appreciate your body NOW!
    3. the discussion here is right, if the room isn’t clean, don’t let it show in the background…it takes all of 5 minutes to stuff everything into the closet (or under the bed, or behind the mirror) so that the background of your picture is clean and presentable…if you can’t take care of that detail, how can a SD expect you to remember the date and time of your meet?
    4. there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to have a toilet in the background of the picture…I don’t care how immaculate the scene is, the toilet will KILL any interest in all but the potty SD!
    5. SMILE…for Christ’s Sake…if YOU aren’t happy, how will a SD think you’re going to make HIM happy?

  275. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @JayBird
    Oui, mon ami, c’est une très belle langue. Mais il peut aussi être un peu déroutant. J’ai voulu se rendre à Paris depuis que je suis âgé de 10 ans. Peut-être… un jour. Ok, I’ll stop. LOL Thanks, Ms. Bird. I do love the French language. 😉

  276. Charlotte says:

    “3. He’ll decide you’re too beneath his station in life and move on to another SB pot…”

    Does that really happen?Wow!

    Many and a many girls on SA are looking for a SD to change something in their life but it always starts with clothes and shoes and and purses.

  277. Josh says:

    “Let’s be honest about something…is the guy really going to be able to tell if it’s designer label or not? Probably NOT…and if he can tell from the dress what the label says, he’s either in the industry or he’s gay.

    Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  278. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    Oh, and I really do HATE this format for the blog…does not make for a quick update on the happenings when I’ve been away.

    Sorry for anyone that asked me a question or addressed me specifically, if it’s important enough to you, repost or reask and I’ll see if it’s in the feed for me to respond!

  279. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    RE: Profile Pictures…and changing room shots…

    In my description of SB profile pictures, I had even recommended to women who didn’t have a “little black dress” or sundress or whatever that made them feel and look sexy but not sexual to go and get a picture in a changing room if they had to…I think I’ve changed my mind on it though…

    There are three reasons you don’t NEED the changing room picture:

    1. I don’t know ANY woman who doesn’t have at least ONE dress that makes them feel “pretty”
    2. If you don’t have a dress that makes you look pretty, go to Goodwill or any of the various other discount or resale shops and find one…you should be able to find a designer knock-off (or even a real designer dress) for less than $10…that should work with almost every budget.
    3. If $10 is too much, watch the sales and get something from a retail store that is out of season…I’ve seen (and heard the wife talk about) $5 sales at department stores and stores in the malls…

    Let’s be honest about something…is the guy really going to be able to tell if it’s designer label or not? Probably NOT…and if he can tell from the dress what the label says, he’s either in the industry or he’s gay.

    Here’s the “last resort”…go to the high end store – with a girlfriend. Try the dress on. Step OUT OF the dressing room for her opinion and have HER snap a picture of you in it with a wall (not a rack of clothes) behind you. Now, you look more like you have the dress than “aspiring” to the dress.

    If you are invited to a first meet at a restaurant where you will be expected to dress above your current wardrobe, you need to tell the SD there could be a problem. He will do one of three things:

    1. Send you a gift card to a store to be ready for the event (then you know you’ve got Richard Gere as a SD, and you’re his Julia Roberts)
    2. He’ll suggest another restaurant (or ask you if YOU have a recommendation).
    3. He’ll decide you’re too beneath his station in life and move on to another SB pot…

    Sorry I’ve been out of things…very busy weekend…not sweet enough though!

  280. Catcher 22 says:

    @Keke. @ATL. HelloMollyFashion.com was highly recommended by @Struggle. It is in Australia.

  281. Reb says:

    Has any SB received this message? Seems like a stereotypical time waster. Wtf at those questions and wanting a new app to talk. He said he recently joined, but I remember the weird questions (like the kissing one) on a different account.

    I’m prepared to offer an allowance of $7,000 per month – would that work for you? So I joined the site recently and to be honest I’m not sure it’s for me… Everyone on here seems to be some sort of creeper or freak lol.. But you seem normal so I hope you are? :) It just seems like everyone on here is looking to have me pay for sex and that’s not at all why I’m here… Like I said in my profile, sure I want to be attracted to the person but it has to be more of a connection and not just a one night stand… I hope that’s what you’re looking for also.. Anyway, my business has really taken off lately so I’m in X once a week for meetings… I figured with all of the time and money I spend going out I might as well stop wasting it on bottle service and help someone else achieve their dreams.. I guess I appreciate people who have goals you know? What are yours?

    So I have five questions for you..

    1) I’m thinking about buying a condo soon… If I put you in charge of decorating it, what sort of look would you go for?

    2) I think you can tell a lot about a woman by how she dresses. How would you describe your style? What would you wear for our first date?

    3) Are you a good kisser? This is a big one for me as I feel like kissing is a lost art and people just move on to other stuff too fast… How would you kiss me if I let you?

    4) Tell me about the best boyfriend you ever had. What was so great about him?

    5) If you only had $10 to buy me a first date gift, what would you get me? Once you’ve answered the questions please download the Viber app and send me your cell #… I’ll text you through the app as I keep my work texts separate from personal… Hope to hear from you soon… Ciao!

    P.S. I’m in town X so let’s meet up, but it would have to be in a public place.. No offense, just a precaution for my safety because you just never know… Thanks..

  282. Jaybird923 says:

    @Georgia Bonne nuit madame dormez bien

  283. Jaybird923 says:

    @Georgia lol are you using a translator? Un plume (masculine) is a pen and une plume (feminine) is a feather that’s what I was talking about. Trying to remember which object is masculine and what’s feminine is a nuisance.

    Mais il est une belle langue,compliqué, mais belle. Maintenant, je vais arrêter avant tout le monde se fâche à cause de la française

  284. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    Bon Soir Mon Amis

  285. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    @Jaybird
    No problem.
    Oh, miel, nous avons tous nos jours âne intelligents. J’étais juste d’être drôle avec KeKe. C’est déroutant mais. Une plume masculine ? LOL

  286. Jaybird923 says:

    @Georgia lol I’m showing off and being a smart ass. sorry couldn’t help myself

  287. Jaybird923 says:

    @Georgia Oui madame je sais que.Je parlais des objets spécifiques comme la plume Ou un bateau. Mais merci pour la leçon française :)

  288. Josh says:

    @flyR

    If @flyR weren’t clearly female, her last post would have put her in the gay category…not that there’s anything wrong with that.

  289. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    @JayBird
    LOL
    Yeah.. LA.. is girls. LE is boys. LOL

  290. Jaybird923 says:

    @Charlotte the accents are a necessary evil you’ll get use to them. The thing I hate abouy french is remembering the masculine and feminine objects

  291. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    @flyer
    Doggone that sounds like a great idea!
    What’s the saying, “A little bread, a little wine and Thou?” LOL

  292. Jaybird923 says:

    @ladysage hello curvy goddess. I thought you were gone for good. Glad that’s not the case

  293. flyR says:

    Charlotte – Perhaps you arrive at his hotel room with a nice bottle of wine, fresh bread and meat and cheeses from the specialty shop……. you for dessert …… and then a walk and evening on the town with late dinner . If he likes chocolate, nipples dipped in freshly made gourmet chocolate sauce.

  294. KeKe says:

    @Charlotte.. okay I was thinking that. Lol
    @LadyS… will do!

  295. LadySage says:

    Good night. Email me if I disappear to long. My email is above.

  296. Charlotte says:

    @KeKe
    I forgot. LOL
    “la cote noire”.. translates to the Black Coast.

    I meant black side. Cote is Coast coté is side, aspect, these e’s with accents kill me.

  297. Charlotte says:

    I cannot sleep! I need a sugardaddy to lullaby me into valentino dresses, hermes bags, la perla lingerie:(

    Keke, if you can bake it should be fine. Or you can take a cooking class if you have time. Just don’t serve him strange recipes you find on net…

    We meet with my SD abroad, I cannot even prepare cappucino for him at a hotel room :(

  298. KeKe says:

    @FlyR.. what if the SB can’t cook :-(

  299. KeKe says:

    @GP… that doesn’t make sense. Lol..

  300. hototrot1 says:

    “Men don’t come home from a tough day and re-arrange the furniture due to some misplaced gene that was essential in the caveman days. Same color hair in all pics is best”

    LOLOLOLOL

  301. hototrot1 says:

    @Flyr

    Your posts are funny and kind of crazy. They make me think you are like a fly buzzing around, landing only to offer your little bon mots. You provide visuals and everything. Cinematic experience.

  302. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @KeKe
    I forgot. LOL
    “la cote noire”.. translates to the Black Coast.

  303. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @KeKe
    [http://www.ask.com/web?q=translate+french+to+english&qsrc=178&qo=hpSearchSuggestions&o=0&l=dir]
    OR just do a search for translate French to English…. LOTS come up. Josh said he uses the internet translate features a lot for Spanish to English and vice versa. LOL

  304. flyR says:

    @ Charlotte – if the SD is single asking him over for a home cooked dinner or bringing the fixings to his place can be a nice way of saying thanks and giving something special.

  305. flyR says:

    part of the problem with profile photos ( in addition to the terminal flaws) is that

    a) the sb forgets the mission of the photo

    b) the SB’s ideas of what’s classy are shaped by the largely gay designers of women’s clothing.

    The SD wants to know
    What you will look like NAKED – It might be just part of you. In one legendary photo the sb had a distinctive profile photo of her laying on the beach that featured her shoulder, back and wonderful butt.
    ALSO wants to know

    That you are taking this seriously

    That you have some class

    That you have some taste

    That you are happy and look open

    Men don’t come home from a tough day and re-arrange the furniture due to some misplaced gene that was essential in the caveman days. Same color hair in all pics is best

    The mirror selfie that has a sinktop littered with junk does not send a good message, Neither does a bedroom with cloths scattered about, especially if a pair of mens boxers is included.

  306. KeKe says:

    Night Charlotte!

  307. hototrot1 says:

    Sorry @Charlotte Somehow I missed this part of your statement. I think the same.

    “Anyway I don’t know American standarts and in Europe it is a good sign that the person you are dating knows goingout etiquette.”

  308. KeKe says:

    @Charlotte.. “la cote noire”.. translate please :-)

    @ATL… I don’t think my SD would let me pay.

  309. Charlotte says:

    @FlyR

    We met on SA and I am supposed to ask for something. He is in his early 40s and yes successful, which I find attractive ( why I am on the site).

    But as I like him, I don’t want to lose him, so putting a price is a bit hard.

    And it is 4am here, and my English is turning to pumpkin, should get some sleep. See you later.

    Thank you for the awesome chat and advices!

  310. KeKe says:

    @LadyS … I was retelling a story between my sisters and I. So I was probably a little more “real” than he’s use to. Lol. My sister’s know about him and wanted him to come to my party. ..O_O…NOOOO. He’s not ready for that yet. Lol. It was on the South side of Chicago. My “crazier” sister was all “tell him to come on. Nobody is going to do anything to him” While my more conservative sister was like, “Noo sister don’t you send that white man off”, Your going to send that man into culture shock”. There may have been some twerking last night. Not by me though. I can’t twerk to save my life. Lol

    I can’t (well actually I can) him driving to south side of Chicago by himself. He doesn’t even understand why it’s not a good idea to be there. And would probably get pulled over for a narcotic search. Lol
    @ATL..Thank you! !

  311. Charlotte says:

    @THEATLSD

    Wait you are a SB that picks up a bill once in a while. Damn girl where do you live??

    I try to be a sugarbabby not there yet.

    And if I have a nice SD who takes care of my needs, keeps me happy. I ouldn’t mind inviting him a place of my choice and pay it. And I want to have good time not living on a man.

    In the long turn this small gesture can be a good investissement. And as he is covering for my needs he is indirectly paying for it. No need to be too greedy.

  312. hototrot1 says:

    @Charlotte
    “In Europe we tip and my tipping reference was european tipping, I am supposed to get an excellent service if I am dining at a palace or 3 star Michelin Restaurant, this is a part why they get ranked. Tipping is a reward for getting something extraordinary. I think it %5-10 of the bill for normal service extratipping is diffirent.

    Nobody has to eat at home because they expect excellence considering lieu’s standarts. Getting not excellant but extraordinary service at an average place is usually extratipped.”

    What you’re describing is European culture. Bravo for Europe. Sounds fair and reasonable. That’s not American culture. There are some things I’m sure I’d find egregious in Europe, but I wouldn’t change things to fit my idea of how things should go. Europeans have a specific name for U.S. people who do this. “Ugly American” I believe.

  313. flyR says:

    @Charlotte ” Next time I won’t date with a like-able SD, because it gets all complicated.”

    Freeze , put your brain in neutral and set the parking brake. Turn off the ignition.

    Assuming that your sort of SD is somewhat older and at least reasonably successful AND you met in a seeking arrangement venue it should be no problem. Being with someone you like is what this is supposed to be about and what separates you from industrial debutantes.

  314. Charlotte says:

    @Keke

    “I’m a simple girl who made it out the hood. My hood tendencies will and do pop up when I’m upset or pissed. Just today he told me I talk different. He said, “Most times very proper but then sometimes black”. O_O… LOL”

    Haha, tell him to keep you pleased if he doesn’t want la coté noire.

    “Yes, perhaps we should do like Europe and forego tipping altogether and make restaurateurs pay their employees adequately, but it hasn’t happened yet. You don’t want to tip? Stay home and make yourself a big bowl of Rice-a-Roni. Light some candles and dim the lights. That solves that.”

    In Europe we tip and my tipping reference was european tipping, I am supposed to get an excellent service if I am dining at a palace or 3 star Michelin Restaurant, this is a part why they get ranked. Tipping is a reward for getting something extraordinary. I think it %5-10 of the bill for normal service extratipping is diffirent.

    Nobody has to eat at home because they expect excellence considering lieu’s standarts. Getting not excellant but extraordinary service at an average place is usually extratipped.

    Anyway I don’t know American standarts and in Europe it is a good sign that the person you are dating knows goingout etiquette.

  315. hototrot1 says:

    I can speak proper English and I can speak Hood. Sometimes I speak Henglish. I’m bilingual like that. I actually grew up basic middle class, but some of my family lived in the hood. And some in the country. If you can’t talk to your people, who can you talk to?

  316. THEATLSD says:

    @Charolette
    “I don’t mind paying it, but in this case he cannot look at the bill either, I hate these kind of curiosity.”

    Wait you are a SB that picks up a bill once in a while. Damn girl where do you live?? 😉

  317. LadySage says:

    @keke I’m laughing so hard. I had a challenging upbringing as well. Most of the people I grew up with are dead or in prison. It usually doesn’t show. It is a character builder, and gave me zero tolerance for airs of entitlement. Here is my email theatric.geriatric g mail

  318. Karen says:

    Also fake it till you make it as they say, LOL. If someone can pull it off and feels comfortable with nice items or wearing them and looking good, then go for this, yes! I prefer more allowance than extravagant gifts but each situation is different.

    Yes, hototrot1 if any person has ever worked in service industry then they appreciate a generous tipper more, and generally tip more themselves. Even if in other countries where tipping is not required.

  319. THEATLSD says:

    @Keke

    I’m not surprised by his reaction. And with his accent to boot.

    Got the email. If I find it I will get it to you.

  320. hototrot1 says:

    I try to not dine out with bad tippers. I don’t care who it is. I’ve stopped going out with girlfriends over this. I believe in 15%. That’s the American way. If I was in Rome, I’d do it their way. Only time I dip below that set amount if service is bad, then it’s a penalty.

    I’ve worked in the service industry and the most demanding people I’ve ever known were the non-tippers. Disgusting. You’re not eating takeout. You’re paying for the service and the ambiance and a host of other things when you eat out. Plus tips go to not just the waiter, but the bus guys and whoever else.

    Yes, perhaps we should do like Europe and forego tipping altogether and make restaurateurs pay their employees adequately, but it hasn’t happened yet. You don’t want to tip? Stay home and make yourself a big bowl of Rice-a-Roni. Light some candles and dim the lights. That solves that.

  321. Charlotte says:

    @ATL
    “Lastly, for Charolette you should never know how much the bill is or what SD is tipping you don’t have a dog in that fight. Just enjoy the meal and time together.”

    Exactly, there is no need for him to let me know how much he is paying and how much extra he is tipping…

    I don’t mind paying it, but in this case he cannot look at the bill either, I hate these kind of curiosity.

  322. KeKe says:

    @GP…Thanks girlfriend! I’ll check it out later. Or better email that link. I’m still going to respond to your last email.

    @Charlotte… I’m a what you see is what you get kind of a girl. I’m not putting on airs. The truth will come to light anyway. I’m a simple girl who made it out the hood. My hood tendencies will and do pop up when I’m upset or pissed. Just today he told me I talk different. He said, “Most times very proper but then sometimes black”. O_O… LOL

  323. Karen says:

    Charlotte, I agree price does not mean quality and that was exactly the point I was trying to make. Another point was that at least they are trying to look nice, if they were not looking silly or like wannabes in doing so. I do not think taking a picture in an expensive dress is trying too hard in all cases, if one cannot afford. Maybe they like the dress and wear it well. So what? Maybe new SD will be buying soon and putting them in dresses that they previously could not afford.

  324. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @KeKe
    WOW! Found another.
    [http://www.steelbones.com] Steel Bones showroom is now located in Seabrook, Texas on Seashore Circle. Perhaps a nice weekend in Texas for a fitting might be in order. Getaway weekend? Check out their site. WHOA.
    [http://www.steelbones.com/products-page/womans-wear/overbust/]

  325. cryptic anomaly says:

    @ Karen – Just speaking for myself. I like the girl next door. The woman who just posts a pic of herself in jeans and a t shirt, little to no make up, normal brushed hair. That intrigues me so much more than the all the pouting, make up caked on, stripper/hooker wannabe’s in expensive but cheap looking outfits. I want someone I can actually hang out with.

    @ HotToTrot – Yeah I get what you are saying, I do agree with it. If they aren’t honestly attracted to other women than they are kind of just making a joke of it. Also humiliating for themselves as the guys usually just laugh at them afterwards anyway.

  326. THEATLSD says:

    @Karen

    I never said they were low quality or low class. I was making an observation that I know to be true because I have had that discussion with a POT, that they think some SD don’t have a clue.
    I also realize they probably can not afford the dress at this stage of their life. Thus, being a SB.
    I definitely would rather see them in a nice drees and HEELS then a dirty bathroom.

    As Charolette stated buying a the same dress at TJ Maxx instead of Nordstroms is the smart thing to do. Both of my SB were very thrifty with the Money and gift cards I gave them. One loved Macy’s gift cards because she would get all those crazy coupons.

    Lastly, for Charolette you should never know how much the bill is or what SD is tipping you don’t have a dog in that fight. Just enjoy the meal and time together.

  327. hototrot1 says:

    @Cryptic
    “If I were to take it really seriously I would say it is making light of women who really are gay. It is backward but I have to wonder what came first, women getting onto each other impress men or men wanting that to happen. Seems one doesn’t happen without the other.”

    It bothers me and I’m not even gay. Like a kind of blackface or something. Cultural tourism. All the rewards and none of the negatives.

  328. LadySage says:

    I don’t think your skills will ever falter @atl. I have two years max. Probably a bit less.

    I will come out of hiding someday!

  329. KeKe says:

    @Charlotte…that the thing. He is very honest that he was not a good husband. Always gone on travel. His wife has mental illness. He couldn’t deal with it but stayed for the kids. He’s very self depreciating. I see that he wants a Healthy relationship. To redeem himself do to speak. Not sure we will work. They are separated. She has a boyfriend. Lol

    @ATL..funny you said that. I only went into VS for underwear. But it was some try on a bra get a panty for a dollar promotion. So I did. I liked the bra and told the sales lady to write it down for me. I did it away from him because I know he was going to say it but I didn’t need it now. But the sales lady came up to me and started talking about the bra and gave me the information in front of him. He was looking so cutely confused. “Why do you not get this now? ” “This makes no sense. “It okay to remember how we meet” “I’ll buy this. Look look and get whatever you want”. He’s so sweet. Yes please email me the link when you think of it. Kmp kmp yahoo.

    @Lady…NP?! That’s awesome. Good luck. Your hard work will pay off big time!

  330. IHF2030 says:

    Sadly, class is something lacking in many would be sugarbabies.

  331. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @KeKe
    “Do you know where I can get a quality leather corset from. My SD wants to buy me one”
    Have you tried google to search? I found this one… maybe it will work for you. [www.shapercorset.com/] Will look for others… wanna help my gf please her man! Sounds like you had a great BD – good for you! Your guy sounds like he gifted you in several ways too! 😉 Nice.

  332. Charlotte says:

    @Karen
    “THEATLSD, In all fairness, at least the girls are trying to look nice. It is better than taking selfies in dirty bathrooms in cheap clothes or panties. Just because they cannot afford the dress does not make them low quality. Class is not something one can buy anyway.”

    Price doesn’t mean quality and trying too hard is unclassy, serving yourself diffirent than what you are is also unclassy.

    A whole set of a good lingerie can be as expensive ( cheap dress reference ) as a casual designer dress, as mention edabove taking agent provocateur example.

    One doesn’t have to put pictures in fancy coctail dresses, especially one will cost like 5k $ ( like average Valentino ). You cannot hide who you are in the long term so better make it clear in he first place.

    Some people want to date at 3 star Michelin restaurants but don’t know how to eat the food. This is unclassy.

    Being yourself if more attractive and classy.

  333. Charlotte says:

    @ Cryptic
    ” I read one profile on here a while ago where the woman was saying she wanted a SD who always tipped 15% or above. Why would she care given the tips wouldn’t be for her!”
    She isn’t a fine men connasseur hence not looking for a connasseur. Over tipping looks like extravaganzy but actually sign of being short on some etiquettes.

    @.

    Agent provocateur has no leather corsets, they are all about lace and maybe some lace but mainly ribbons like grosgrain. Sadly…

  334. Karen says:

    THEATLSD, In all fairness, at least the girls are trying to look nice. It is better than taking selfies in dirty bathrooms in cheap clothes or panties. Just because they cannot afford the dress does not make them low quality. Class is not something one can buy anyway.

  335. THEATLSD says:

    My summoning skills are still intact.
    Thanks for stopping by Lady Sage. I was worried you got Ebola.
    Bummer on hiding you profile, that was sight to behold.
    Perfectly understandable going into hiding if you are busy. This game is a big time suck.

    How long until you finish with school?

  336. . says:

    KeKe says:
    May 31, 2015 at 5:43 pm
    @ATL… Do you know where I can get a quality leather corset from. My SD wants to buy me one

    Try Agent Provocateur :)

  337. cryptic anomaly says:

    @HotToTrot – Yeah I know heaps of guys who go nuts over 2 women who don’t need them. I think some still believe it is taboo. I really don’t know. If I were to take it really seriously I would say it is making light of women who really are gay. It is backward but I have to wonder what came first, women getting onto each other impress men or men wanting that to happen. Seems one doesn’t happen without the other.

    @ THEATLSD – Hate fish lips and duck lips! Tongues out, giving the finger, on another dating site women seem to think it is cute to post pics of them with fake mustaches. Because you know, what man doesn’t want a woman with facial hair!

    @ Charlotte – I like your views on tipping. In Australia we don’t tip at all really but in countries where it is part of the culture I tip what I feel has been earned. I read one profile on here a while ago where the woman was saying she wanted a SD who always tipped 15% or above. Why would she care given the tips wouldn’t be for her!

  338. THEATLSD says:

    @Keke

    @ATL… Do you know where I can get a quality leather corset from. My SD wants to buy me one ”

    Australia. I’m not kidding.
    This was brought up a wile back by one of the SB, don’t recall which one.
    If I remember I will post the link.

    Glad to here you had a good birthday and STOP with the ” I’m feeling weird about the gifts”. That’s why you are in the game plus it’s your birthday. Just make sure you thank him and don’t start telling him it’s too much. I guarantee he does not want to hear that. You are starting to sound like Struggles :)
    YOLO (cliche of the day)

  339. Charlotte says:

    “@Charlotte… Yes, sometimes it is hard liking your SD so much. We just get each other. I can talk to him for hours or just sit quietly in his arms. But I don’t think I could have it any other way. As I’ve started to fall for him, I have to remind myself that he is leaving and he has a wife.

    It does feel weird to get such an extravagant gift and so much money from him because I genuinely care him and don’t want to give him the impression that I am only about the money.”

    I understand you perfectly, I don’t want to be seen as if my only reason to like him was money. But hey we actually met on SA!

    I am happy to hear your SD keeps you happy and I think we are similar in someways so don’t mind me telling maybe you wouldn’t like him so much if he wasn’t married, it spices up the whole story and his wife probably gets all the bad of him. Don’t let sugar delude you!

  340. LadySage says:

    @keke, I am in healthcare. I’m a nurse, about midway through my NP.

  341. KeKe says:

    @LadyS… you work in medicine also? Are you a nurse?

  342. LadySage says:

    @keke happy birthday. Yes, we are persistently short staffed. I think I’m going to request leave this summer and go relax somewhere tropical. I need a breather. Thank goodness I love what I do!

  343. Charlotte says:

    “Another side is the SB trying to look impressive in that dress…”

    Wait! Really? Should you REALLY tell a girl who is aspiring to be SB to dress off instead dress up to impress men? ( Laughing )

    “other side is the SB trying to look impressive in that dress thinking the SD are stupid and will not know its a changing room at Nordstroms. Also that they, the SB, are more upscale then they really are. What many SB seem to forget is that most of the “real” SD would never be a SD being stupid. Though there are few Trust fund SD that seem to be mental Giants.”

    Someone was talking about calviar and champagne while not being able to afford pizza. This fits here nicely. I work in clothing, well preparing a project and it is unbelievable how cheap a good quality timeless garment can be. Seeing this Nordstorm Harrods mentality, it isn’t surprising some babbies are constantly in need of money.

    A successful person can easily compare quality and price and doesn’t overspend only for a brandname ( only highlighted) unless he has no idea about the product. Overspending can even be a turnoff.

    If you want to know if a SD is real pay attention his attitude towards quality/ price comparisons and tipping, a real connasseur will never overtip for an average service especially at an upscale lieu, while keeping extraordinary service at an avarage place nicely rewarded.

  344. KeKe says:

    I couldn’t get the link to work @ATL

  345. KeKe says:

    @LadyS.. glad to know you are around. Working hard this weekend?

  346. KeKe says:

    @ATL… Do you know where I can get a quality leather corset from. My SD wants to buy me one 😉

  347. LadySage says:

    Hello People of the Page. You summoned me with mention of my moniker 😉 I’m around. Focused on work and school. I did remove my photos and hid my profile. I got a bit busy with career obligations and chose to hide rather than be flakey.

    I hope everyone is well.

  348. THEATLSD says:

    @Chrissy. I’m going to one up you on the light saber vibrator.
    There is a whole collection of Star Wars sex toys.
    Including, (drum roll please) a Darth Vader vibe!

    Hopefully the link below works.

    [[http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/feature3.jpg?w=1300&h=682]]

  349. KeKe says:

    Hello blog peeps! My birthday weekend is coming to a close. My sisters threw me a surprise party. It was so much fun! Then I had an overnight with my SD. He gifted me a really pretty and unique cross pendent by a German jeweler. Took me shopping at VS and gave me a birthday card with $$$$ to put on my great card.
    @Charlotte… Yes, sometimes it is hard liking your SD so much. We just get each other. I can talk to him for hours or just sit quietly in his arms. But I don’t think I could have it any other way. As I’ve started to fall for him, I have to remind myself that he is leaving and he has a wife.

    It does feel weird to get such an extravagant gift and so much money from him because I genuinely care him and don’t want to give him the impression that I am only about the money.

  350. Charlotte says:

    @Josh

    I think that is ok, he is a perv when he sends a shot of his *cough cough*…

    But please make sure price tag isn’t shown, it is unclassy.

  351. THEATLSD says:

    @Charolette

    “She is giving ” subtle” hints about how georgious she would look in this dress? So her SD would get her this georgious dress to undress?”

    I believe there is some truth to that. Though if I just spent a wad of cash to buy it, lets leave it on for a while so I can enjoy it 😉

    Another side is the SB trying to look impressive in that dress thinking the SD are stupid and will not know its a changing room at Nordstroms. Also that they, the SB, are more upscale then they really are. What many SB seem to forget is that most of the “real” SD would never be a SD being stupid. Though there are few Trust fund SD that seem to be mental Giants.

    “Next step should be trying fine lingerie to send SD shots,so he can get them.”
    Damn right girl. (Is trying on lingerie permitted)
    Also, leather corsets!

  352. Josh says:

    @Charlotte

    How about SD sending a pussy shot for SB to get a hint?

  353. Charlotte says:

    @THEATLSD

    Thanks and

    “The other gotcha is the SB taking a mirror selfie at a store in the changing room, wearing a really nice or expensive dress they can’t afford.”

    She is giving ” subtle” hints about how georgious she would look in this dress? So her SD would get her this georgious dress to undress?

    Next step should be trying fine lingerie to send SD shots,so he can get them.

  354. THEATLSD says:

    Speaking of mirror selfies in beautiful long dresses, Lady Sage where did you go?

  355. THEATLSD says:

    @Charolette. That was a good pic of you the angle was not crazy.

    @ CA I’m just hoping all the “fish lips” and “tounges out” go away.
    The other gotcha is the SB taking a mirror selfie at a store in the changing room, wearing a really nice or expensive dress they can’t afford.

  356. hototrot1 says:

    Hot1 & Hot are both me btw. Trying to learn the gravi thingy.

  357. hototrot1 says:

    @Cryptic
    “@ HottoTrot – Are you HotToTrot1 and without the 1?? I assume you would be. Anyway, I am probably one of the few men who aren’t turned on by two women making out or having sex etc. It just doesn’t do it for me and really I have to question the idea of a man liking 2 women who don’t need him. But to try and answer your question, it does seem that many women are Bi now days or Bi in the sense that they will make out with their friends to try and turn guys on. It is a trend that started in the 90’s.”

    It does seem trendy. But, now guys expect it! Between the trend and 24/7 porn access, a girl can’t win. I have guys look at me the way they use to look at girls who didn’t give bjs back in the day. Sad part is “real” lesbians have it hard. It’s cool as long as it’s part of some guy’s fantasy. A little backward I think.

  358. cryptic anomaly says:

    @THEATLSD – Yeah younger SD’s would exist but I think they would be very few and far between. Not a smart way to reduce your market as an SB anyway.

    Speaking of weird photos, I have to mention this one. The woman is in her 40’s which is fine but she likes dog grooming by the look of her only photo. The thing is it is of her posing with this small type dog that has all it fur shaved from mid point of it’s body down. It just looks like a plucked chicken to me! Just a really weird pic to post. Put me right off.

  359. Josh says:

    Weird angles are to hide their bodies. Bathroom shots are idiotic to say the least.

  360. Charlotte says:

    Catcher 22

    Uhmm Strange angles like my gravatar that I changed?

    Strange angles and Strange poses are ” Vogue ” to blame. Men say models are hot, so these girls try to make vogue-alike picture to be ” hot”.

  361. Catcher 22 says:

    Regarding the earlier discussion of SB profile pictures, what’s with the selfie shots taken in the mirror of a cluttered and unkempt bathoom or bedroom? Very unappealing . Also why so many SB pics taken at weird, unnatural angles? What are these girls thinking?

  362. Charlotte says:

    @THEATLSD

    Thanks again!

    I hesitated clicking on your name, for some reasons lol!

  363. THEATLSD says:

    @Cryptic. I’ve SB that have “I’m only looking for SD around my age”. These are late 20 something’s. Good luck with that. (The do exist at least 1 that I’m familiar with)

    @Charolette. Why the question mark after my name?? Also u can use the website box to link to a page or picture. If you want. It makes your name a link. Click on my name. ( That’s not directed at you, just me having fun)

  364. Josh says:

    @Promise

    You’re 20 years too young sweetheart. There’s no benefit in pretending to be under 21 when you actually are under 21. LOL!

  365. Charlotte says:

    @THEATLSD

    Hello Daddy?

  366. cryptic anomaly says:

    @ HottoTrot – Are you HotToTrot1 and without the 1?? I assume you would be. Anyway, I am probably one of the few men who aren’t turned on by two women making out or having sex etc. It just doesn’t do it for me and really I have to question the idea of a man liking 2 women who don’t need him. But to try and answer your question, it does seem that many women are Bi now days or Bi in the sense that they will make out with their friends to try and turn guys on. It is a trend that started in the 90’s.

    Yeah I can see how posting a pic with your son/daughter who is hot and looks mature when you are claiming to be younger than your real age would be a silly thing to do as well. Some people do look older than their actual age though, I have noticed that a lot on regular dating sites. Then again maybe these women are lying about their age!

    I don’t see the point in lying about age. Especially on a Sugar Daddy site, I have been told by some women that I am not old enough to be a SD! I didn’t think it mattered too much really and besides isn’t 41 better than 61?

    I don’t exclude at all on age. I do like younger but hot is hot whether you are 18 or 80. Ok 80 is probably unlikely but I’ll still decide on a case by case basis lol

    Also I agree with you that there are a few SB’s out there who are looking for a rich boyfriend as opposed to a SD. Nothing wrong with that but it does explain why they cancel out certain ages. Although they probably also have an “Ick” factor when it comes to SD’s over 50 etc.

    For the record I have been told a number of times that I look younger than 41.

    @ Reb – You will probably find the same people on the other SD related sites anyway. I think Brandon is flooding the market now.

  367. THEATLSD says:

    @Charolette
    Hello beautiful

  368. Charlotte says:

    @THEATLSD

    Thanks I hope it worked!

  369. THEATLSD says:

    @Charolette
    Go gravatar.com. Create an account and use the same email as you do here on the blog. It will then link to it.

  370. Charlotte says:

    “IHF2030 says:
    May 31, 2015 at 1:51 pm
    Charlotte..So you desire a sd that you don’t like? Isn’t a generous real boyfriend preferable to a sd that you don’t like? Women are weird!”

    Haha, doing women’s ultimate duty ” to complain”.

  371. Charlotte says:

    trying to put one…

  372. IHF2030 says:

    Charlotte..So you desire a sd that you don’t like? Isn’t a generous real boyfriend preferable to a sd that you don’t like? Women are weird!

  373. IHF2030 says:

    hototrot1..Who are these sd who feel obligated to be racially inclusive in their preferences?

    RussianSb…It never occurred to me to look in the metro for attractive Russian girlies. I did like that Russian women were very forward in approaching men, even if only for making “joint venture”.

  374. Charlotte says:

    How do you get avatars?

  375. Promise says:

    @Josh I don’t do that. ???

  376. Josh says:

    Women tell each other how young they look. It is part of their fitting-in ritual. So if at least one woman tells a 40 year-old that she looks 25, then her age is 25 for men’s consumption.

    Now if another woman comes along and assesses her age to be 20, then her new age is 20 for men’s consumption.

  377. Charlotte says:

    @FlyR

    “Charlotte – It does not have to be an investment in a specific project. He is investing in you by giving you some space to pursue opportunities or finish an education or both”

    If he said he would offer me X amount because he wants me to be exclusive, ready to travel and responsive to his mails, I would take it but asking is annoying because I like him. Next time I won’t date with a like-able SD, because it gets all complicated.

  378. hototrot1 says:

    In addition, an sb who’s filtering out 55 year olds, doesn’t want a 55 year old point blank period. Just like a man who wants a much younger woman. Sure there are women his age who look better than a lot of the younger sbs, but it’s the “young” component he wants most. So, I don’t think that’s really the smartest move. And it looks insecure and insecurity on a supposedly successful man is unattractive.

  379. hototrot1 says:

    I always tell the truth about my age. I find some men want a woman who could be there daughter as oppose to their grand daughter. Some want younger, not youngest. There is someone for everybody. I don’t judge men on their ages. Like Jaybird said, if they look good, it’s all good. But when people lie, it’s a red flag for me. What else are the lying about?

    Besides, sugar isn’t just about wanting a younger woman, it’s about having something you don’t presently have. Some men marry women that society or their family thinks they should have, so they might find an sb who’s not so much younger, but different. Maybe she’s a different culture or she’s a BBW or fulfills some kink that wifey won’t do. Lots of reasons for sugar.

  380. THEATLSD says:

    @YGBKM. If your lurking out there good to see you are alive and kicking.

  381. THEATLSD says:

    @Russian SB lie about their age also. I’ve seen some that are easily closer to 40. Claiming to be in 20’s. Which is mind boggling since the whole idea is meeting someone.

  382. Jaybird923 says:

    @Russian #1 because they are insecure about their age and reason #2 because they want to inrease their chances of coming up in the search results most of the younger SBs don’t incude 55+ in search criteria. I personally don’t care if you lie about your age if you look younger than you are, keep in shape,etc.

  383. RussianSB says:

    I can afford young SB and I am proud of it !

  384. RussianSB says:

    I don’t know why all 60 y.o. SD here write that they are 50 ! They should be : ” I am 60, and proud of it ! “

  385. hototrot1 says:

    @Cryptic

    I believe you posted something up top about group pictures on profiles. Funny enough, someone recently viewed my profile with what looked to be his 20/30 something-year-old HOT son in the picture. His age is listed as 51. Um, I don’t think so! lol He looks ok, definitely older than 51. If he hadn’t had his son with him, it wouldn’t have been so noticeable. I guess some people think Hotness rubs off. hehe

  386. hototrot1 says:

    @RussianSB
    “I am definately not sub,no, thanks, I am humiliated here everyday by men who 20 years older and 20 times uglier, but they still can find some imperfectness in me :)))))”

    Tell the truth and shame the devil! Not one lie told!! LOL

    I know I’ve been called a ho, bitch, hoodrat and a sundry of other unsavory descriptions around here, but I am really just a simple lady. I like vanilla sex, with some *agression* from my man. I can be sub-like, but not a real sub.

    Back on the topic of looks. My current off again is the complete opposite of me in every way. Well, we both have strong personalities, which is why we’re off again I suppose. I’ve always dated tall men, 6ft and over. My ex-husband is 6’5″. I’m 5’6″. He’s…drumroll…5’3. How’d that happen. 5’3″, Jewish and older than both of my parents, on paper we are an odd couple. But he is has a very powerful presence. Makes other men in the room look small. Dominates most conversations. That’s what initially attracted me to him, not just the money part. The quintessential Napoleon. hehe Never an easy going moment with him.

    This new guy I’m talking to is about 6ft and only 14 years older than me, but but has a quiet power that is intriguing. I’m curious to see how this will turn out. Fingers crossed.

  387. RussianSB says:

    And to be dom – it is big phisycal job to tie and spunk someone by hours. My tender little hands not created for that, not talking about emotional part.

  388. RussianSB says:

    I am bisexual, but noway my man will heard it from me. After “50 shades of grey ” I was affraid BDSM will become fashionable, so I gently try to talk about it starting with movie – and get negative reaction… such relief !
    I am definately not sub,no, thanks, I am humiliated here everyday by men who 20 years older and 20 times uglier, but they still can find some imperfectness in me :)))))

  389. RussianSB says:

    I like extreme beauty in men, but there has to be at least one feature that’s a little “off”. Something that offsets the beauty.
    Yeah, even Cary Grant used to have big mole on the left cheek, but delete it.

  390. RussianSB says:

    INF2030, girls in the clubs&bars are smokers (I read your profile). And most of them have kids and husbands they need to support. You look in the wrong places. Have you ever go down to Moscow metro to find a good girl ?

  391. hototrot1 says:

    Question: why do most men I meet these days ask if I’m bisexual? Where have I been? Are bisexual women the norm now? And why do their faces deflate when I say no? Is this something I will have to start lying about in the future? Do some women lie about this to keep men’s attention? Inquiring minds want to know…

    I’m straight and can certainly appreciate female beauty, I think Penelope Cruz is too beautiful for words, but I don’t get down like that. But, I feel almost awkward saying it now. Perhaps it helps me understand some of these sds who feel pressured to be “racially inclusive” in their dating choices.

    I like penis ONLY. Can I say that out loud???

  392. hototrot says:

    On the subject of male beauty:

    I like extreme beauty in men, but there has to be at least one feature that’s a little “off”. Something that offsets the beauty. I remember reading a book about Marlon Brando. When he was young and performing “Streetcar Named Desire” on Broadway, he broke his nose in a backstage fight with another actor. The producer of the show told him not to get his nose reset because he was too beautiful before, now he looked “like a man”.

    As far as pretty men go, I think Jonathan Rhy Meyers is stunning, but he looks edgy and a little mean, so that makes him sexy. Otherwise, too pretty.

    I do have a thing for odd looking, ugly men sometimes though. Like that ugly dude from “Girls”. Most times, I never know what I like until I know. I can write down a list of what makes someone “perfect” and throw it all away for someone who has none of those qualities the next day.

  393. hototrot1 says:

    I have my windows open. Love the night air.

  394. hototrot says:

    Our date is for after his trial, mid June. Too long to wait. Argh! But we’re emailing nightly. I hate that. I want to cut him off until the date, without seeming rude. I really, really like him as I’ve posted many times before. We’re already talking summer concerts, “future talking”. He’s so Zen. I don’t know how to deal with it, honestly. I tend to attract maniacs lol

    We met IRL so we I know we have some physical chemistry, still I hate internet romances. Anyhoo, I’m up at 3 in the morning. Anybody else awake?

  395. flyR says:

    Charlotte – It does not have to be an investment in a specific project. He is investing in you by giving you some space to pursue opportunities or finish an education or both

  396. Reb says:

    So… has anyone heard anything from Perfectarrangement? I tried signing in for the first time in months and it says “Whoops! There were some problems with your input.
    Your session has expired! Please login again”
    I assume they are scraping the idea…?

  397. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    @Josh
    Thank you Josh. From the way this blog has been traveling lately, I’m not sure THEY know what is next here. Do wish they’d hurry though. I thought disqus was crazy, but going back to this with no editing, etc. is almost as bad. I’d really like to see that “Forum” format in place – SOON, please SA?\
    Thanks!

  398. Josh says:

    The rumors of my influence over the editorial team are highly exaggerated. 😉

  399. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    @Promise
    “@IHF They only post new blogs when Josh asks.”
    LOL. That’s not necessarily always the case Promise. SA does apparently have some guidelines they use to present a new topic here. Generally it appears that there must be over 1k comments posted. Josh makes the request when Josh feels the need, I don’t think even he believes he has that much “power” here. LOL. And I could be wrong… but I don’t think so. Perhaps one of the moderators on SA will clarify what it takes for a new topic to be presented on the blog.

  400. Promise says:

    @IHF They only post new blogs when Josh asks.

  401. cryptic anomaly says:

    @Charlotte – It is the number one gripe men have about women on regular dating sites as well. The group shot etc. I just don’t think many women think about it and yes the extra people are irrelevant.

    @Russian SB – Yeah that would be put me right off!

    @IHF – Are there any new topics about Sugaring? I think they have all been covered at least from the SB perspective. Although we have choked up the chat log here so a new one would be good. We just chat about what we want anyway lol

  402. IHF2030 says:

    I’m in the mining exploration business and every time I go to Russia all the women in bars and clubs say the want to make “joint-venture” with foreign men

  403. RussianSB says:

    Not all russian girls are crazy like me, I am the craziest one.

  404. RussianSB says:

    You can start any new topic here.

  405. IHF2030 says:

    How come Russian girls are crazeeeeeeeeeeeee but Ukranian girls are nice?

  406. RussianSB says:

    As is blog topic ever have impact on our chat topic !

  407. RussianSB says:

    A muslim girl write : why boys not write to me on FBook ? Maybe because I have picture with all my brothers ? Where they are with all their friends ? And all they with their knifes?

  408. IHF2030 says:

    Can we have a new blog topic, now, please.

  409. Charlotte says:

    Profiles with irrelevant people are would be annoying unless these people are brought to dates. Reading the profile and learning the attractive one is out of game is disappointing.
    Pretty obvious the potenitial SB/SD knows the other person is much more attractive or pleasing to some people so taking the advantage up false attention.

  410. cryptic anomaly says:

    @Charlotte – I say that you can never have too many friends so no need to fight over me lol! Feel free to email me if you wish just to chat.

    crypticanomaly73 at g mail dot com

    Since this blog is about tips, something I have wanted to put out there for a while. Just saw a profile of a pretty young woman, good profile. But what is it with posting pics with men in them? What am I supposed to think there? Is he your brother, boyfriend, husband, bodyguard, pimp?? It might sound silly but there are attached and married women on here so what am I supposed to conclude from that?

    Also posting pics where you are with female friends, which one are you? What if I like your friend better? Not to mention do your friends know they are now posted on a Sugar Daddy site!!

  411. Charlotte says:

    @Cryptic

    Thank you, Keke was first to pursue you, maybe better leave you for her, considering I have a potential SD. Unless Keke is attractive and finds me attactive and you find both of us attractive. lol!

    But I shall mail you, to get some advice if you like :)

  412. cryptic anomaly says:

    @ Charlotte and Keke – I am 41 so I guess not far off the mid 30’s mark. I like a variety of body shapes and sizes but I am definitely put off by too skinny or overly athletic.

    My email for the 2 of you is crypticanomaly73 at g mail dot com

  413. KeKe says:

    @Charlotte… I understand. You don’t want to under/over value yourself But if the chemistry is there even if you undervalue he probably give you more in the long term .I always get more than I ask for if I even have to ask. I n a good relationship he will want to help you as long as you don’t make him feel like a wallet ( per online SD). You sound like a long term type of gal anyway.
    The money for a start up sounds great.

  414. Charlotte says:

    FlyR

    “Charlotte

    Allowance no

    Opportunity to invest in your future YES

    Same $ different title”

    You made it sound a lot better, thank you! I could suggest a few start-up ideas that he could partially fund and maybe get some shares. I have a business plan waiting for approval to get state funding to some extend, he could help me with the rest maybe, I will bring it later if it really works between us.

    @Keke; yes, it is even contraversial for myself to let it go by the flow. But it is the first time I am having a sugardaddy and hard to calculate my price especially not knowing the marketshare of my kind.

  415. KeKe says:

    I’m a little in love with Kevin McKidd (Owen)From Grey’s Anatomy.

  416. Charlotte says:

    @RussianSB
    “Everybody falls for face, men and women.
    But, I personally think that men must be just a little more attractive than ape. Beauty make man feminine. You know what I am talking about,when looking on tv at beautiful young actors, I imagine boy with wig and realise what a beautiful girl he can be ! I am very realistic about mans looks, because, same as russian women famous for their beauty, same russian men known for being not attractive. Buy we have our rising star with “Bred Pit” looks (google obitaemui ostrov, pictures), who immediately were stolen by
    Hollywood. All other actors working in Hollywood – brutal looking men having parts of bad boys, or personal security. That is typical russian man looks, unfortunately. Sometimes such looks in conflict with tender, peaceful, harmless and kind person inside.”

    I totally agree with you, I love “ugly” but strong men, ideally with some wrinkles, discolouring hair, strong manly manners. Charming prince should grow up some decades for my taste, this is why I am on this site. But my main attraction is hands both on men and women. I cannot forgo hands for anything but even on this note I hate womenly delicate hands on men and vice versa on women.

    I hate when people, who are into gayish looking boys, comment on how slavic girls prefer “ugly machos”.

  417. KeKe says:

    @Russian…My sisters swear by dating unattractive guys. Lol..They say the ugly guys treat you better. I sort of agree. I dated a guy so fine once I couldn’t believe we were together. Lol. And it was the worst sex ever. I really kept thinking it might get better. He was so nice to look at but oh god it never did. I don’t even look at extremely attractive men anymore. He killed it. Lol

  418. flyR says:

    Charlotte

    Allowance no

    Opportunity to invest in your future YES

    Same $ different title

  419. KeKe says:

    @Charlotte… There seems to be a little debate between a set allowance and going with the flow. I’m on a go with the flow type of arrangement with my SD. But if you need a certain amount you may want be honest about it so it’s not a problem later. But I agree you have to see how things mesh so to speak. I’ve never had a relationship start off SA. Mines have all been IRL to sugar. First with an ex boyfriend and now my current guy. So it’s a lot different. I’m not sure which would be easier. The guy who knows up front or the guy you slowly turn into a SD. Lol

  420. Charlotte says:

    @Josh

    Sad thing you while you cannot compare apples with pears, you can prefer one over another.

    But you are right :)

    Maybe I should fish for these into-surgery-sugardaddies to get 10cm extentions on the right places ( laughing)

  421. RussianSB says:

    I call it “child with killer looks “

  422. RussianSB says:

    About face vs body.
    Everybody falls for face, men and women.
    But, I personally think that men must be just a little more attractive than ape. Beauty make man feminine. You know what I am talking about,when looking on tv at beautiful young actors, I imagine boy with wig and realise what a beautiful girl he can be ! I am very realistic about mans looks, because, same as russian women famous for their beauty, same russian men known for being not attractive. Buy we have our rising star with “Bred Pit” looks (google obitaemui ostrov, pictures), who immediately were stolen by
    Hollywood. All other actors working in Hollywood – brutal looking men having parts of bad boys, or personal security. That is typical russian man looks, unfortunately. Sometimes such looks in conflict with tender, peaceful, harmless and kind person inside.

  423. Josh says:

    …the same race and similar age. :)

  424. Josh says:

    @Charlotte

    “Even though getting a nosejob or botox/fillings are a lot easier to get 10cm taller.”

    You would not compare apples with oranges. You would compare two type of apples. 😉 So you would compare pretty face and not so pretty body and vice versa in two people of the same height.

  425. Charlotte says:

    easier than to get***

    Sorry!

  426. Charlotte says:

    @Josh

    Even though getting a nosejob or botox/fillings are a lot easier to get 10cm taller.

    Pyschologically we are set to trust people with symetric features. But some studies suggest wearing too much makeup does the opposite effect.

    But yes easier to tone up or down your body. I still insist on beautiful hands, impossible to cheat.

  427. Josh says:

    Along the lines of what @Keke wrote, more people are biased toward pretty face because:

    1. People basically interface with others through visual and verbal communication which requires them to deal with face more than the rest of the body.

    2. Face pretty much stays the same while the rest of the body can be enlarged or toned without massive surgical intervention.

  428. Charlotte says:

    @Keke

    Thank you for the insight, I will let him make the decision, I believe he will put me in a comfortable situation financially or professionally. It is easier to negociate expectations once seeing if the situation all together “floats our boats”.

  429. KeKe says:

    @Charlotte. You met him on SA. He understands the concept of allowance. If you want to know how to ask. I’m probably not the person to ask. I’m too blunt. He already asked you wanted you wanted. I would just say I want an allowance of $$$$ a month. I don’t really sugar coat things. Say it and get it over with.

    Sorry for late response. I have a 4yr old age 7 yr old crawling all over me while trying to watch License To Drive.

    As far as how much? I have no idea what it costs to live in France.I would assume several thousand of dollars. But you weren’t even it for money. If he took you on trips and wine and dined you what else do you need for every day life there if you don’t work.

  430. Charlotte says:

    @Keke
    “Really? No sex? That part sounds boring. Lol”

    Haha,it was “no sex” at the first meeting I think, I hope?

    I don’t mind getting an allowance, I would shop my fine lingerie myself while waiting for him but I really don’t know how to ask it or what to ask.

  431. KeKe says:

    Really? No sex? That part sounds boring. Lol

  432. KeKe says:

    @Charlotte… I would guess it depends on what you are able to provide? Is he expecting you to go on trips with him whenever he wants companionship? If you’re not able to work because you need to be available an allowance sounds reasonable to me.

  433. Charlotte says:

    @Keke

    I met with this guy on SA, travelled another country with him ( it was safe all private rooms plane tickets on my name and he assured he didn’t expect sex). We got along, waiting for my exams to end so I can travel again with him again.

    Actually I would be happy to get some advice because he asked me what I expected from him. And I don’t have any idea, I had started to sugar because I was willing to play ” young women” who receives fine lingerie while waiting for her lover, and maybe some mentorship. As he isn’t this kind of man, I should expect an allowance and I am really lost…

  434. rembodler says:

    @CucumberonL.
    You are absolutely right about the law aspect of it. I just think… that offer was purely in her mind, truth be told. So we both were talking hypotheticals. I suspect even the most straightforward guy is not that straightforward. It is like asking on this forum, “hey ladies, anyone here DTF?”

  435. KeKe says:

    @Jay…oh honestly don’t care if someone has a hot body or pretty face. I need personality.

    I agree either or can be fixed. Not sure which is easier. To fix the body, the person has to have the right mindset. It a mental struggle to work out and eat appropriately.
    Plastic surgery is a quick fix but it could get botched.

    @Charlotte…who is this almost sugar daddy. Tell me more. Lol

    @YGTBKM…It is indeed nice to see you around here again. I feel like I don’t get a chance to get to know you before you disappeared.

  436. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @KeKe
    Well, not long after I joined this blog, it was “Ass Week” I thought perhaps it’s time for “Boob Week”… but then, that word does have a lot of different meanings. LOL. Perhaps another name could be suggested. LOL

  437. KeKe says:

    @GP…Nice!

  438. GeorgiaPeach says:

    WOW. Gravi finally came thru! Whatcha think? LOL

  439. Charlotte says:

    @Keke
    “@Charlotte…average in America is a size 12(44 France). Cryptic is Australian so a size 16 over there.But he specifically said BBW. So not slim! :-)”

    You got me into thinking holidays out of Europe, I don’t mind if he feeds me on fine bakery goods to get his ideal body shape but now sticking with my “almost sugardaddy” and watching weight.

  440. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @KeKe
    GO for it Darlin! Hope you had a great evening out!

  441. GeorgiaPeach says:

    OMG! YGBKM is BACK! HELLO!!!!!!!!!!!
    LOL
    Couldn’t stand it huh?

  442. Jaybird923 says:

    @keke the pretty face hypothetical’s body was as bad as the Hot body’s face. And takes place in the present so none of that I’d work with him/her to get in shape, plastic surgery etc.

  443. KeKe says:

    Because if they dress nice, no one but you knows what she/he looks like anyway but the face can’t be bagged and everyone sees that and judges. ..

  444. KeKe says:

    @Josh. Why?

  445. Jaybird923 says:

    @Josh No wise one please enlighten me

  446. Promise says:

    I’m waiting for Josh.

  447. KeKe says:

    @Charlotte…average in America is a size 12(44 France). Cryptic is Australian so a size 16 over there.But he specifically said BBW. So not slim! :-)

  448. yougottabekiddingme says:

    And the audience responded in unison, “Why, Josh?”

  449. Josh says:

    @Jaybird923

    “I thought more would prefer the hot body combo.”

    Do you know why more preferred otherwise?

  450. Jaybird923 says:

    @All my little hypothetical didn’t go the way I thought it would. I thought more would prefer the hot body combo. This was interesting thanks everyone for participating :)

  451. Charlotte says:

    @Keke

    Haha, shame, I thought I could be a match as well but I don’t know what he considers as average, slim is average in France.

  452. KeKe says:

    @Cryptic
    I tend to like average to curvy, even BBW to an extent but an unattractive face is deal breaker.

    You who! Over here! Hello love..what was your email again? I think we could be a match! :-)

  453. Charlotte says:

    Last Anonymous was me, I didn’t pay attention the on information form. Sorry!

  454. Anonymous says:

    @cryptic anomaly

    “@ Charlotte – I would choose pretty face over body everytime. I don’t have a specific type body wise, I tend to like average to curvy, even BBW to an extent but an unattractive face is deal breaker.”

    Could you be a younger SD like mid 30s? I find in real life younger men prefer face over body especially ” venus-alike” body in my brothers description.

  455. cryptic anomaly says:

    @ hottotrot – I sense you just want to fight about this as I feel I have been rather clear when stating that I was referring to black sb’s who have grumbled on blogs. I don’t know how much clearer I can get but whatever.

    @ Charlotte – I would choose pretty face over body everytime. I don’t have a specific type body wise, I tend to like average to curvy, even BBW to an extent but an unattractive face is deal breaker.

  456. Jaybird923 says:

    @Cucumber No touch of the Downs. Why is everyone so determined to make my ugly face/hot body person into a monster but no one’s said anything negative about the pretty face/bad body person.

  457. Promise says:

    @Josh Oh thank you for explaining. I was asking Lady Scarlett about what she meant because (as I’ve stated before in the past) I have an Autistic older brother. :)

  458. Josh says:

    Do various diseases, illnesses and disorders exist? Absolutely. However, over-diagnosis is rampant and almost everyone seems to be on one or the other drug(s).

    Autism spectrum is one such range of over-diagnosed disorders.

    For example, instead of cutting children’s sugar and simple carb intake down and instead of testing them for vitamin and mineral deficiencies, a good number of children (mostly male) are being diagnosed and drugged for ADHD and other related disorders.

    That said, if after taking the proper precautions in terms of eating habits and lifestyle modification along with proper testing, if the ADHD symptoms persist then proper treatment must be carried out.

  459. Promise says:

    @Josh Why?

  460. Josh says:

    @Promise

    [https://youtu.be/tvFh84SGksQ]

  461. Josh says:

    As long as they are happy, it is not necessary for every man and woman to hook up with the opposite sex.

    Why is it that the “awkwardness” of men is ALWAYS highlighted? Women can as well be awkward in meeting men, and as a matter of fact, they are.

    When either of them decide that they want to meet the other, they will find ways to do so.

  462. Promise says:

    @Lady What do you mean by “autism spectrum”?

  463. CucumbersOnLids says:

    @Jaybird923-That sounds bad. When you can’t even say “he has lovely eyes” it’s like he probably has that “touch of downs” look.

    ____________________________________________________________________________________

    rembodler says:
    May 29, 2015 at 7:44 pm
    @ Charlotte

    Well… She sounds very immature, so I was mostly pulling her leg.
    I understand that a woman wants to feel appreciated first for her soul and only then for her prowess in sexual department, including disk sucking. The same as the man wants to be liked for his fine qualities other than $ amounts he shells out.
    But we should accept that – since we are on SA – that sex and money are going to be a part of the conversation. I do not disregard the importance of the finesse, but if one claims to be free and open-minded, she should accept that finesse is just a glitzy wrapper for his money and her body.

    This is all well and good but it’s a little less about finesse and more about LAW. If pretender SD members keep approaching SBs like this they’ll bring the wrong type of attention to the site. All it takes is the right officer trying to move up and all of you SDs will be fossils talking about the good ole days of sugar dating and how it’s a shame you’re spending $700 an hr to play footsie with a non sexual BBW escort.

  464. Josh says:

    @DowntownLASD

    “Respect is foundational to the Sugar Lifestyle.”

    Respect is foundational to pretty much any relationship.

  465. flyR says:

    @ Lady If you hang out with some of the MIT and CalTech guys they are too weird for most of the mainstream young women. Many have difficulty in communicating with the outside world. Many years ago their dads would arrange for a more experienced woman to help them bridge the worlds.

  466. LadyScarlett says:

    Interesting article, flyR. Makes sense with some of the tech guys. They are often socially awkward or on the autism spectrum.

  467. flyR says:

    The byline was fix sexless marriages but the text was much more on teaching them how to physically relate to women ( or I assume how women relate to men) Interesting that some of the techniques involve counselor and client mutually touching to get the lesson across. No wonder the white collar birth rate in the US and Europe is plummeting to the point where France will never recover.

  468. Josh says:

    Helloooooo Madame @flyR, you conveniently forgot to mention “fix sexless marriages” from your assertion in an earlier post as to why those 40 year olds were contacting experts.

  469. flyR says:

    @ downtown – could not agree more .

    Part of the magic of sugar is that you are looking for what the relationship can be right now not worrying about what it will be like with inlaws and outlaws, kids, all the other uncertainties.

    A little respect and care makes a modest amount of sugar go a long way….

  470. flyR says:

    from vocative

    Sex And The Valley: Tech Guys Seek Expert Love Advice From Therapists
    Tech guys are flocking to experts to learn how to talk to women and fix sexless marriages

  471. Josh says:

    Of course, “man up” is waiting in the wings to be used in an up-coming comment?

  472. DowntownLASD says:

    Respect is foundational to the Sugar Lifestyle. Without mutual respect, this is (at least from the SD’s perspective) a hook-up site. So, whatever the expectations of each side of this arrangement, never stop going a couple of extra steps to make certain that the other is respected.

    I have been a steady SD for seven years, during which time I’ve had four major arrangements. I’m not an extravagant SD and I never will be, but I’ve had success with some of the most beautiful women I’ve ever met because not once have I neglected to make them feel more special. And when an SD does that, the money takes a back seat to the building of a relationship (albeit a short-term, recreational relationship).

  473. flyR says:

    “A 40 year old virgin man is a few million times better off than 40 year old mind-and-wallet-raped divorced with restraining order against seeing his three children.”

    A man has to decide if he is going to live his life in fear, living in a sterile world devoid of risk and meaning or take some chances and live a far fuller life that includes hanging out at the edge of the envelope on occasion.

  474. LadyScarlett says:

    “It is no surprise that according to a recent article male techies in SF are the prime clients of sex therapists. Lots of 40 year old virgins….. Perhaps some hanging out here.”

    Just read the last few comments, but interesting…was doing some research awhile back on sites similar to seeking arrangement but more exclusive and selective, and there already are some exclusive matchmaking services(by invite only, and not escorts or marriage, but something similar to sugar baby/benefactors) for techie men on west coast, according to someone I know who was helping me with something.

  475. Josh says:

    The definition of mind rape continues.

    When the man says “NO”, the woman must not chase him from room to room mind fucking him.

    NO FUCKING MEANS N N N N N N N N N O O O O O O O O O

  476. flyR says:

    @online “”Entertainment factor is still huge…Student is not a “10” but she’s a solid 7-8…but her entertainment factor is a 10, when she’s on her game. It’s worth it for the entertainment!””

    My perception is the SD who is obsessed with arm candy to impress (or just feel good) is going to put 95% of face /body. Too often it comes packed with a vacuous or worse brain.

    There are a lot of 7 8 9 s who are gifted in many areas including niceness, intellect, enthusiasm, knowledge of areas the SD might have missed, sensual exuberance .

    There’s really little difference from the SB who is obsessed with the largest allowance and the SD obsessed with the cheapest sex. Outside that arena there are a lot of folks looking for an arrangement where sugar is a catalyst.

  477. Josh says:

    @flyR

    “Lots of 40 year old virgins…”

    A 40 year old virgin man is a few million times better off than 40 year old mind-and-wallet-raped divorced with restraining order against seeing his three children.

    If Brandon ran an honest to goodness service he can make shitload of money with those 40 year old virgins.

  478. Josh says:

    The definition of mind rape continues.

    When the man says “NO”, the woman must not chase him from room to room mind fuck him.

    NO FUNCKING MEANS N N N N N N N N N O O O O O O O O O

  479. Josh says:

    Madame @flyR chimes in to masquerade her female opinion as that of a male.

  480. flyR says:

    “””The targeted listener decides if he is being mind raped””””

    That’s about the dumbest fucking thing ever posted on the blog………………………….. and that’s a galaxy of stupidity.

    It is no surprise that according to a recent article male techies in SF are the prime clients of sex therapists. Lots of 40 year old virgins….. Perhaps some hanging out here.

    It is almost as stupid as a women’s libber claiming that a man visually molested her.

    The blog’s starting to sound like a bunch of liberal arts men discussing how to screw a lightbulb in.

  481. Jaybird923 says:

    @keke sorry your birthday weekend isn’t going the way you’d like.

  482. Jaybird923 says:

    @Charlotte Someone in shape. Not a pretty face more distinguished handsome. Lol I hope that make sense. I know what I like when I see it. I also have a thing for salt and pepper hair I have no idea why but I have always found it sexy.

  483. KeKe says:

    Good looking face/ not hot body.

    My night is jacked! My sister did my hair. Took forever. It didn’t come out right. Had to try and salvage it. My SD took a shot at my sister. Said I should have used the yellow pages and got it professionally done ( but my sister went to school for hair). I told my sister. She got huffy. He got ticked.. I thought the shit was funny.

  484. Charlotte says:

    @Jay
    So I am bored as well

    What do you consider as hot body or face? @everybody

  485. Jaybird923 says:

    @Goddess LOL soo…. That means you choose the hot body/ugly face combo. It only took five post to figure out. lol :) And yes sitting on the face is allowed so is turning off the lights.

  486. Goddess says:

    Hmmm…can’t I just sit on his face and enjoy the rest of him? Is that an option? OK, sorry, I’ll go sit on my hands now. :(

  487. Charlotte says:

    @Rembodler
    “I understand that a woman wants to feel appreciated first for her soul and only then for her prowess in sexual department, including disk sucking. The same as the man wants to be liked for his fine qualities other than $ amounts he shells out.
    But we should accept that – since we are on SA – that sex and money are going to be a part of the conversation. I do not disregard the importance of the finesse, but if one claims to be free and open-minded, she should accept that finesse is just a glitzy wrapper for his money and her body.”

    You are right, I don’t know much about the sugar I am new, but it is pretty obvious sex is in the center of the arrangements.

    And it isn’t very rational to claim to be open-minded and want to stay traditional/ conservative. This is a little bit about the amount I guess. If she was offered 1k EUR for a per play she wouldn’t probably take it offending ( talking general not about Nephesh).

    When you only read SA’s claims about the sugar world you easily get the impression of being paid to taken lavish dates / holidays and hey you aren’t even obliged to have sex.

    Also; this sex is ugly talk, don’t particiate in it unless you want to lower yourself attitude is somewhat disturbing.

  488. Jaybird923 says:

    @goddess No deformities good hygiene and good teeth/smile but the rest of his face is jacked up

  489. Promise says:

    @Chrissy I’m with you 100% on hygiene.

  490. Goddess says:

    OK, well was just trying to be funny but okies, I’ll get moar srs. (Sorry, see! can’t help it!) If I had to choose…damn…uh…crap…hmmm…how ugly are we talking? Hunchback of Notre Dame ugly or Golem from Lord of the Rings ugly?

  491. Jaybird923 says:

    @Goddess I’m not angry lol I just want you to pick one or the other. I have a low tolerance for dramatics and nonsense and sometimes it comes across bitchy when I’m just exasperated

  492. Goddess says:

    night night lovely Georgia! xoxoxo You too! :)

  493. rembodler says:

    @ Charlotte

    Well… She sounds very immature, so I was mostly pulling her leg.
    I understand that a woman wants to feel appreciated first for her soul and only then for her prowess in sexual department, including disk sucking. The same as the man wants to be liked for his fine qualities other than $ amounts he shells out.
    But we should accept that – since we are on SA – that sex and money are going to be a part of the conversation. I do not disregard the importance of the finesse, but if one claims to be free and open-minded, she should accept that finesse is just a glitzy wrapper for his money and her body.

  494. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    Ok All, time for this old woman to call it a night.
    This week has done me in, as they say. LOL
    And next week will be worse. Oh well, maybe by keeping up this pass and not eating, more weigh will dissolve. LOL

    @Chrissy, I am so happy to see you back! Really. We missed you here and that was chatter about that!

    Sweet dreams ya’ll. :)

  495. Chrissy says:

    @Jay
    Ah typo, meant molting like a snake.
    I am still going to stay with my answer. I love a good smile and teeth.

  496. Goddess says:

    *Backs away slowly from the angry lady* LOL

  497. Jaybird923 says:

    @CHrissy lol His lips looked like they were malting.
    And none of the hypothetical guys/girls have a hygiene problem. Does that change your answer or does it stay the same?

  498. Chrissy says:

    The real deal breaker for me is hygiene, I once met a guy that the thought of his mouth being on my body was so unsettling. His lips looked like they were malting. I think that makes me lean towards attractive face/unattractive body.

  499. Jaybird923 says:

    @Josh Thank you for answering the question and for the jab too. The reason I picked that combo is because if he has a good personality I can get pass the face but I can not get pass being touched or having to touch someone I find physically repugnant. Sorry

  500. Jaybird923 says:

    @Goddess This was a hypothetical question with only two options. No one asked for feelings or what makes you tingle. It’s supposed to be some thing fun and silly to pass the time. A simple one or the other will do. But thank you for “participating”

  501. Anonymous says:

    It does not make me a feminist, it makes me a tree hugger!

  502. Josh says:

    @Jay

    For most women ugly face/hot body because most women are only good for one thing, and the hot body is useful.

    However, if the woman is fun, then pretty face and not so great body as I would be focusing more on the face when we hang out.

  503. THEATLSD says:

    @Jay
    Gotcha. Yes I would do them, especially if they present themselves well. Which was spoke of earlier in blog.

  504. Charlotte says:

    @Jay

    Yes, I am good at French but I understood the question. I care about hands more than his body or face. But ok it is a part of body so I will say body, while hands are the most important and I don’t like the too much muscle.

  505. Goddess says:

    Ha @JayBird923, I did though. My taste really does vary, some guys look good but zero sex appeal. Some guys are shockingly sexy with their disposition. I am flexible body and face wise as long as he makes me tingle in my special places. If I wanna touch abs, got my own, my hips are like handlebars. :)
    Also my programmer is my main guy right now, tough shoes to fill.

  506. Jaybird923 says:

    @ATL no physical deformities but you would look twice if she was walking down the street to make sure she’s as ugly as you thought the first time.

  507. Jaybird923 says:

    @Charlotte Do you read french? If yes maybe I could explain the question better for you.

  508. THEATLSD says:

    @Jay
    Yes I guess so

  509. Charlotte says:

    @all If you had to choose between a SB/SD with a pretty face and a not so great body or a SB/SD with and ugly face and a nice body which one do you pick? (clearly I’m bored please indulge me and play along) I would choose the ugly face/ hot body combo

    Beautiful hands… Both on SB and SD.

  510. Jaybird923 says:

    @ATL why are you on the fence about it. Are you wondering how ugly LoL

  511. THEATLSD says:

    @Charolette
    That was tragic love. And he was the sugar baby. He had nothing and her the Queen.

    @GP. Yep still here I don’t work normal hours I have to deal with other countries. Have to be on there clock sometimes.

    @Jay
    Tha SD that did see the humor was obviously full of himself. I can believe it I been told crazy stories by numerous SB.
    And your right about feeding the sugar.
    Im with you on the face body type. I think??

  512. Jaybird923 says:

    @Goddess This is what Josh was talking about. You said a whole lot of words and still managed not to answer the question. :)

  513. Charlotte says:

    @Rembodler
    “That guy was honest, that is what he wanted and he told you so in not so many words. If our nanny society tells you ‘this is not Ok, to tell a girl that!” and shakes its head – why you, of all people are offended?
    That guy, he still might discuss with you all these intellectual things…eh..astrology, self-empowerment and mind rape… but you both are on SA and if you are not going to…provide him with oral pleasures, none of this astrology crap matters, right? He also knows that pleasures are not likely to be free – and they will not be, right? So he tells you what to expect. And Canada, being a lot more advanced on the matter of P4P than her “Neighbor Down South” and with a lot of this being legal and freely available, that is not exactly such a demeaning offer?”

    When settled for x times of meetings for Y purpose and you get Z amounts of monthly allowence. How is this diffirent from per play?

    But some people like developping a respectful communication before taking things intimate. We cannot blame someone refusing to have sex for x amounts of money with a total stranger, but we cannot either blame the stranger for offering X amounts of money for wanting to have sex.

    Her comment about this guy was totally irrelevant, where comes the problem.

  514. Jaybird923 says:

    @Promise Small World!

  515. Anonymous says:

    Does sex and money grow on trees? Hmmm….So, if I climb you like a tree to find your “woody”? Ahhhhh :)

  516. Promise says:

    Ugly face, hot bod.

  517. Goddess says:

    Is there a third option @JayBird923? I suppose it depends on the fellow. If a guy looks at me the right way, that alone can send chills up my spine. :)

  518. Promise says:

    @Jay “I am Haitian but was born and raised in Miami.”
    ME TOO!

  519. Jaybird923 says:

    @all If you had to choose between a SB/SD with a pretty face and a not so great body or a SB/SD with and ugly face and a nice body which one do you pick? (clearly I’m bored please indulge me and play along) I would choose the ugly face/ hot body combo

  520. Goddess says:

    @rebodler, maybe an introductory letter asking “do you happily suck dick for the right amount of cha-ching?” would have helped? Just my assumption. Ha, once had someone ask me who is servicing my holes, that was rich. I think that would make a fanciful holiday card. We had such lovely/clever banter for a little while too til that happened, quel dommage. :)

  521. Josh says:

    @rembodler

    “And Canada, being a lot more advanced on the matter of P4P than her “Neighbor Down South” and with a lot of this being legal and freely available, that is not exactly such a demeaning offer?”

    The reality may be a bit different. With liberalism comes strengthened feminism.

  522. Goddess says:

    @Josh I have no idea what you mean in such regard. Hmmm…loss of coherence in statements, perhaps I will better understand with a more verbose approach. I was merely stating the obvious you charmer you. :)

  523. rembodler says:

    Nephesh says:
    May 29, 2015 at 4:59 pm @Promise
    “Why is that okay? He is just as annoying as the guy who sent me a message “$400 to suck my dick” and I feel like reporting him just the same.

    Nephesh… I am disappointed. You try to be a ‘free mind” and now you sound like a little hypocrite. That guy was honest, that is what he wanted and he told you so in not so many words. If our nanny society tells you ‘this is not Ok, to tell a girl that!” and shakes its head – why you, of all people are offended?
    That guy, he still might discuss with you all these intellectual things…eh..astrology, self-empowerment and mind rape… but you both are on SA and if you are not going to…provide him with oral pleasures, none of this astrology crap matters, right? He also knows that pleasures are not likely to be free – and they will not be, right? So he tells you what to expect. And Canada, being a lot more advanced on the matter of P4P than her “Neighbor Down South” and with a lot of this being legal and freely available, that is not exactly such a demeaning offer?

  524. Jaybird923 says:

    @Charolette Thank you. :)

  525. Josh says:

    @Goddess, I did not “compare” you with @Nephesh. I suggested that both of you should fight it out as to who writes better nonsense. Take your most recent comment along.

  526. Charlotte says:

    @Jay, it is a conception this is why I used it instead of ” sweet” or “smooth”.

    You reflect the ” warm sunny country ” background let it be Haiti or Miami, ( written in green with envy;))

  527. Jaybird923 says:

    @Georgia He works hard so he can feed his sugar habit. lol

  528. Goddess says:

    It’s weird @Josh would compare me to Nephesh, she has a romanticized view of debauchery and she’s WAY more compliant than I would ever be… or was until his charms finally WORKED and had her take off 2 hours later. Have to admit, she certainly hung in there but think you cock blocked OnlineNewbieSD. Am I allowed to say cock block? Ah well. :) @OnlineNewbieSD, yes, I was working. I’m sorry it drove me away from my priorities, you lovely people. But now you can rest a bit easier, I have returned while trying to recover my work from last night, the timeout helped. :)

  529. Jaybird923 says:

    @charlotte That explains it that is a term we use also douce when I saw it I knew you had to be from a french speaking country. I am Haitian but was born and raised in Miami.

  530. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    @ATLSD
    You’re STILL at the office? WOW. Waiting for the Friday traffic to die down? LOL. It’s been a real bear this week with the rain, etc.

  531. Charlotte says:

    @THEATLSD;

    Wasn’t it a bit romantic in the beginning his becoming ” bad man”?

  532. THEATLSD says:

    @Chrissy

    I can’t pull that link up at work. But I’m sure it’s good.

    It was time for Darth to return to menace all the SB.

  533. THEATLSD says:

    @Jay I have to deal with every type of personality at work. We have a room full of Type A due to the nature of the work.

    Plus I have a nick name at work that scares people even though I’m the nicest guy here.

  534. Charlotte says:

    @Jaybird;

    I am from an Eastern-European/ Euroasian country but studying in France.

    Where are you from yourself?

  535. Chrissy says:

    @ATL
    The Darkside has returned! I will get out my lightsaber dildo! I am ready to duel!

    OMG there really is one! [[http://starwars.trendolizer.com/2014/12/star-wars-inspired-lightsaber-dildo.html]]

  536. Jaybird923 says:

    @Charlotte Maybe I missed it. I don’t know if you’ve already told us, but where are you from?

  537. Charlotte says:

    @Josh,
    “As they say, attitude is more important than aptitude. Most women in the Western world have toxic attitude toward men. The first step is to neutralize that attitude and the next step is to make it flirty, charming, and maybe intoxicating to men.”

    I haven’t grown up in a totally westernised society, so for me it is really badly seen to walk on your men especially your “man” to prove your equality.

    But I won’t take someone’s negative comments about my pride in myself only because he is male and especially on this site paying for me.

    The line between being ” douce” and “voiceless” is very fine but Blog helps me to maintain my ” value” while being a ” douce” towards people especially pot sugardaddies.

  538. Jaybird923 says:

    @ATL I’m so sorry for you. You’re a brave man to show up to work everyday knowing what you’ll have to face. lol

    I got contacted by an SD that was like that I actually read the whole 9 paragraph profile. And when I messaged him back I told him that this morning I woke up thinking I Had to shorten my profile but after reading his I decided mine wasn’t that bad. Can you believe he got upset? I included a smiley face and everything.

  539. THEATLSD says:

    @CHRISSSSSSSSSSSY

    Welcum back blondie. I’m glad to see you are over your traumatic experiences with those SD.

    New furniture to break in. The smell of fine Corinthian leather.

  540. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    Sorry Folks – I’m trying to catch up:

    @RussianSB
    Thank you so much for the compliment, but Guru Josh is partially responsible.
    He helped me a great deal with it. I go back on occasion now and tweak it. I know I’m “out of the league” here because of my age, but you have no idea how many “views” I get and even a few messages from time to time – from all over the place. It amuses me a great deal, if nothing else because I do enjoy writing. I certainly have no aspirations that I would ever have and SD/SB relationship, but I have discovered many friends here and I enjoy their chatter, well at least most of them. LOL

    @ONSD
    So the next question is, how do you pronounce “AUNT”?
    Are you one of those who says “Ahhhhnt” or one who says “ANT”?
    Being originally from the western side of Virginia and now in Georgia I am quite amused by the differences in annunciation of this particular word. With your response I’ll tell you the difference, based upon what I told when I moved to South Carolina, at the ripe young age of 23. LOL

    @Josh
    *Blushing* I don’t get many compliments these days. Thank you, Sir.

    @KeKe
    Certainly BIG Wishes for your special day! Enjoy and have some FUN GF!
    Eat, drink and raise some hell for me too! LOL

  541. THEATLSD says:

    @Jaybird
    “Just be straightforward and say what you have to say I’m pretty sure you don’t walk around talking the way you write.”

    I think your wrong. She does probably walk around talking like that. I work with people like that. Her profile I would skim it and move on to much babbling.

  542. KeKe says:

    @Promise. It was yesterday.I’m 36 Gemini. Hehe
    @Josh.. Thank you!

  543. Jaybird923 says:

    @Nephesh Contirbuting to the blog? More like trying to impress us with your brilliance. If you did indeed read the blog you would see how we communicate with each other and the vibe we have going. No one is asking you to leave everyone is welcome to contribute. Just be straightforward and say what you have to say I’m pretty sure you don’t walk around talking the way you write.

  544. Josh says:

    @Nephesh

    “I apologize, I obviously have a different idea of what a discussion blog is about. I wont be returning to check this thread and if anyone has anything to say to me I’m not hard to find.

    Enjoy.”

    Many SBs come her to sharpen their sugar game. Some of the blog SBs and SDs help them in doing so.

  545. Josh says:

    @Charlotte

    “Now with your comment I assume I am on the right path.”

    Yes you are sweetheart…

    As they say, attitude is more important than aptitude. Most women in the Western world have toxic attitude toward men. The first step is to neutralize that attitude and the next step is to make it flirty, charming, and maybe intoxicating to men.

  546. Promise says:

    See Josh can be nice, and I’ve only been on here for a few months.

  547. Josh says:

    @Nephesh

    “Haha! I could put them in my profile, would that seem like I’m trying to hard? Would people assume I’m being pretentious?”

    I did not want to give you specific advice but here is a quick one. Your profile is boring as fuck. Your photos are even worse.

    Take the testimonials and phrase them somehow in your “About Me” section. That may lighten up your profile a bit.

  548. Promise says:

    @KeKe when’s your birthday? This blog was posted on my mom’s 60th. Today is my cousins (the one that graduated) and yesterday was his fiances. :)

  549. Charlotte says:

    @Josh
    ” @Charlotte is a new blogger to observe as well. ”

    Thank you.

    I am quite new in the whole “sugar bowl” and learning a lot from the blog especially responses give good insights when you don’t know where to/ how to begin. Now with your comment I assume I am on the right path.

  550. Josh says:

    Happy Birthday @Keke :)

  551. Jaybird923 says:

    @Josh Another one Oh my God I’m Blushing. I haven’t blessed anyone in the sugar bowl with my wit yet. I’m still looking for the perfect one for me (notice I didn’t say perfect man)

  552. Nephesh says:

    I apologize, I obviously have a different idea of what a discussion blog is about. I wont be returning to check this thread and if anyone has anything to say to me I’m not hard to find.

    Enjoy.

  553. KeKe says:

    I would try to follow along but I’m getting ready to go out. It’s my birthday weekend. :-)

  554. Josh says:

    @Jay

    Her education is listed as High School. If that’s the case, she is trying to over-compensate with thick, boring prose. That’s why I had asked her about her country of origin.

  555. Josh says:

    @Jaybird923

    Since I am not interested in hooking up with ANY blog SB, my criteria of evaluating them is to assess how they could provide good company to their respective SDs.

    You have an interesting wit and style of dealing with men. I am sure you bring value to a good number of SDs in the sugarbowl.

  556. Jaybird923 says:

    @Nephesh Jesus F-ing Christ Are you a philosophy or English Lit. major testing your term paper out on us? For God’s Sake just say what you have to say without all the prose. It’s beautifully written but 75% of it was unnecessary.

  557. KeKe says:

    @Jay… I’m feeling honored too! :-)
    Thanks @Josh!

  558. Jaybird923 says:

    @Josh A compliment from you? I am honored

  559. Nephesh says:

    @Charlotte
    No offense taken, I have done the same thing, made a SD profile for my area, and I agree with you.

  560. Nephesh says:

    Haha! I could put them in my profile, would that seem like I’m trying to hard? Would people assume I’m being pretentious?

  561. Josh says:

    Also, @Keke has not posted today but writes good stuff. @Charlotte is a new blogger to observe as well.

  562. Nephesh says:

    @Josh,

    I read the comment that you quoted and I agree with you. I thought that was clear in my original comment which stated “I’m very aware of how our society is imbalanced; how men are generally assumed to be predators, how men’s sexuality is demonized so that he can’t even admit that he’s just looking for sex, because it makes him abusive?”
    Perhaps I was not as forward as I could have been about my support of men’s sexuality and their right to offer money, which is a representation of emotional security in the end, for other types of emotional security (as in nsa, discreet, ect)

  563. KeKe says:

    Hope everyone is having a happy beginning to the weekend.
    @Cryptic…I made the wallet statement because you should no interest in giving me your email until you thought you I made what Kenna made (300k). I wasn’t offended, it was funny.

  564. Charlotte says:

    Oh, by the way, I didn’t mean you Nephesh about over-estimating, I had a look on european profiles.
    I am sorry if I made a misunderstanding.

  565. Promise says:

    @Neph I’m not on here to attract blog SD’s either, but more to see what the site is like from their point of view.

  566. Josh says:

    @Nephesh

    “I wish there was a section for references or testimonials.”

    Put them in your profile. :)

  567. Nephesh says:

    I wish there was a section for references or testimonials. While I may not be able to prove my value, it has been proven and the opinions of the men in my life matter more than some jaded bully.

  568. Josh says:

    The purpose of the “said topic” is to provide us with with fresh space to BS on. Most of the regulars just yap, and don’t give a shit about the “said topic.”

    This is what I wrote about the “said” topic and pretty much moved on because there is no point in “discussing” this site’s ridicule of its paying members:

    Josh says:
    May 26, 2015 at 1:44 pm
    Something NEVER changes at SA. That is, looking down upon the paying members with condescension.

    Bravo! You may be out business sooner or later, but no one can tell you that you sold yourself out and started working on behalf of those who actually paid your bills.

  569. Nephesh says:

    Furthermore, your opinion is not the only one, or the right one. While I may not seem interesting to you I am very okay with that, it seems like you are interested in being right, and I am definitely not interested in anyone so arrogant.

  570. Charlotte says:

    Nephesh,

    It is a common way to attack someone you like, don’t take it bad. He probably enjoyed your discours and trying to provoke you for more.

    After reading blog messages, I made a SD profile and happened to understand ” don’t exaggrate your value” message. I admit I expected to find a higher attractiveness ratio, not saying these girls are ugly but maybe over estimated their value for what they offer.

  571. Josh says:

    @Nephesh

    “All you have done is accuse of being a conniving bitch”

    Hmmm, I never said that…but I am sure that you know yourself better…

  572. Nephesh says:

    I’m not participating in this blog to attract anyone. I thought the purpose of a blog was to discuss said topic.

  573. Josh says:

    Observe how @Promise, @Jaybird, @RussianSB, GeorgiaPeach, @Chrissy, etc., interact with men on the blog. You may get a bit more interesting to men then.

  574. Josh says:

    @Nephesh

    Sweetheart, the more you write the more you will reveal how boring–and full of shit–you are. Hence, getting offended by the Guru, who allegedly claims to know how women roll. 😉

  575. Promise says:

    Sometimes he gives good advice.
    @Josh Have you already told her about sabotage?

  576. Nephesh says:

    @Promise
    Why is that okay? He is just as annoying as the guy who sent me a message “$400 to suck my dick” and I feel like reporting him just the same.

  577. Nephesh says:

    Well Josh, If you have nothing constructive to say why are you in a discussion blog? All you have done is accuse of being a conniving bitch, and you do it all without grounds for your assaults. This is bullying, and I thought we were better than that.

  578. Promise says:

    @Neph Josh offends a lot of people. *awkward laugh*

  579. Josh says:

    @Nephesh

    I don’t give specific advice. Sorry. Maybe others can.

  580. Nephesh says:

    @Josh
    I’m offended at your accusation of me being a mind rapist. In any situation the listener has every responsibility to say, “I don’t want to talk about this. I don’t want to talk anymore” Your assumption that I do not respect the wishes of other people is unfounded and cruel. If you can describe how my words eluded to my being a mind rapist I would love to hear your point of view and consider expressing myself differently.

  581. Mindy says:

    My expectation level was “negotiable” because I was primarily seeking mentorship and some experience. I felt it’s hard to measure the intrinsic value of these things in dollar amount so it’s negotiable. :)

  582. Josh says:

    The victim could record the mind rapist and prove his rape.

  583. Josh says:

    The targeted listener decides if he is being mind raped.

  584. Josh says:

    @Nephesh

    “How does one rape a mind anyways?”

    Talking a man’s (or a woman’s) head off in a non-public setting against the will of the listener is mind rape.

    PS: Bullshitting in public setting should continue to be protected under the First Amendment in the United States (and similar laws in other jurisdictions).

  585. Nephesh says:

    I still don’t understand what mind rape involves. Are you suggesting that a woman’s nonsense is mind rape? Who gets to decide what is nonsense and sense? If it doesn’t make sense to you that does not mean it is nonsense.

  586. Josh says:

    Women rape their partners’ minds all the times. It should be declared a punishable crime the same way spousal “rape” is a crime.

    Similarly, even if a man listens to a woman’s nonsense and then changes his mind as to if he was a willing participant or not, then she should be charged with mind rape. There should not be any statute of limitations.

    So if a man thinks that he was mind raped 20 years ago by a woman then she should be put behind bars until she proves her innocence.

  587. Nephesh says:

    No one needs to meet with me if they don’t want to, technically it’s not rape if it’s willing. How does one rape a mind anyways?

  588. Josh says:

    I am ass-u-ming that you are expert in raping men’s minds?

  589. Nephesh says:

    @Josh,
    Like, what does oh joy mean? I assume you’re being sarcastic but what is your point?

  590. Josh says:

    @Nephesh

    “I…find myself attracted to men who know what they want: dominant men that are confident enough to talk me into giving it to them…If you want more pictures or further conversation give me a reason to give it to you – relationships are not effort free.”

    Oh joy…!!!

  591. Josh says:

    “I love Hitchcock!”

    How about Tarantino?

  592. Nephesh says:

    My pictures are being approved atm. Enjoy your show.

  593. RussianSB says:

    Nephesh – you are open to people, but still, difficult to say you are boy or a girl from your main profile picture. All that make me run …. and watch “Sabotage” (I love Hitchcock!)
    See you guys, tomorrow another boring day in vacation paradise.

  594. Nephesh says:

    @Russian, ONSD said “too bad shes on blog now – she sounds like someone I’d have connected with!”

    I’m confused. Super secret agent? I think we are all super secret agents…

  595. RussianSB says:

    Not issue – just someone play “super secret agent”. We are in the web to meet people, not to hide from them !

  596. Nephesh says:

    @rembolder,
    Maybe that rinser and so called ‘gent’ are gems to each other.
    @Russian & ONSD
    Thanks for the advice. Your points make perfect sense, and I’m guna go change my profile now. xxx

    What is the issue with getting to know bloggers more?

  597. RussianSB says:

    You looking for gem, or for professional adviser ?

  598. rembodler says:

    @Russian
    “…if you did read Nephesh post, you should understand that she is that rare gem. But, if you, guys, are blind …”
    I agree with you, Russian. She certainly could be a Mermaid to one lucky fisherman. What I was trying to say, a Mermaid can still give a pretty lousy dating advice…;-)).
    To everyone, including herself, as it seems.

  599. Charlotte says:

    @ Cryptic Anormaly

    “@ Charlotte – Judging by appearance is an interesting topic. Whether a man realizes it or not most times he likes the way a woman looks because there is something about her which sparks something in him. An appearance that makes him think of someone he had a crush on or a fantasy or anything else. For me personally I prefer the girl next door type, so looks do matter to me even though I obviously want chemistry as well. In terms of race or skin colour well people like what they like, I am not that attracted to Non White women, even when I see one that I think is pretty I still am not attracted as such. I’m not into the whole PC bullshit thing going on so couldn’t care less if someone wants to scream racism about that, like I said we all like what we like.”

    It is perfectly understandable if someone feels more attracted to certain types of girls. And is more like positive discrimination than racism.

    And in all honestly if one is paying x amounts of something to maintain a relationship with a woman even after paying the site, it is because they want someone of their preferences. There is nothing wrong it, especially on this site.

    When, making my comment about looks, I was considering the fact that women on this site was above some attraction criteria.

  600. RussianSB says:

    In business I ignore lots or items with “negotiable” price, everything has its price, and under “negotiable” often some monkey business hiding, like “when we see WHO buying , then we will make numbers from the air”. There are price categories – that is start point, and then it can be negotiated.
    To all – sorry for my cynicism.
    And, still, all the males, who “are not allowance guy”, “I am zero allowance guy ” will be under “negotiable” cover.

  601. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Russian – agreed…and on her profile you need to be ready to read as well…but there’s something great in those words 😉

    it’s too bad she’s on blog now and didn’t just hit my search, she sounds like someone I’d have connected with!

  602. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Neph – so you understand my humor a bit more…I’m from Michigan, but I say “soda” when referring to “pop”…I get weird looks at restaurants, because they know I’m local, but I don’t use the local vernacular…I also say “no worries” regularly and that’s not an American phrase…

    I enjoy and celebrate those differences…it’s not derogatory, it’s celebratory and a part of my humor 😉

  603. RussianSB says:

    @Rembodler (I hope it is Rembo+Bodler), if you did read Nephesh post, you should understand that she is that rare gem. But, if you, guys, are blind …

  604. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Promise – thanks?

  605. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Neph – my opinion is that for your situation, you should probably choose Practical or Moderate as a category, then in your narrative, explain what you just did in that post…it’s true, EVERYTHING is a negotiation…but…if having “Negotiable” in your profile attracts the p2p SD (or the hooker/john profiles) it’s better to put SOMETHING ELSE!

  606. Promise says:

    @ONSD You’re so nice.

  607. rembodler says:

    @Nephesh
    “The reality I’m trying to bring up is that everyone is a gem to someone…”
    That statement is as naive as it is impractical. The rinser looking to collect $300 for doing you a favor of sending her a Western Union transfer is not a gem to anyone. Neither is a gent who escapes the room after successfully tricking a woman to bed him in HoJo. These are obviously extreme examples, just to illustrate.

  608. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Neph – if you’d like to send me a message, please send it to onsdthrowaway at gmail. I don’t pay for a membership for my “privacy” account, so I can’t get that message you sent 😉

  609. Nephesh says:

    @RussianSB
    Some people, like myself, aren’t looking for one sort of arrangement. While I would be thrilled with a high monthly allowance I realize that I may not want to give as much as that allowance warrants. I will not know what I want from someone, what I am comfortable giving and getting, until I meet them. Every person is different and the most important thing to me is that I’m comfortable and enjoying myself. So every interaction is negotiable, I’m not going to claim that I only want moderate assistance because for the right Sugar Daddy I would be happy with an arrangement that reflected the time/energy that I spend, and if that isn’t much then I’m willing to get the same in return. Does this mean I do not know what I want? Because while I may not know what form my desire will come to me in, I know my desires, I know what I want, just not what it looks like.

  610. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Neph – I spent enough time in Michigan’s U.P. that “eh” is a common issue and a laugh for me…and I couldn’t help myself when you asked @Josh about assumptions he might be making because you were from canada 😉

  611. RussianSB says:

    @Georgia, read your profile – you are a poet ! Or a soul singer :)

  612. RussianSB says:

    @Online, I will sign under your petition about ” negotiable “, it is why all that categories were designed. But SDs here all negotiable. We all adult people here, SDs , for sure, should knows their budget for play. And SBs should know their wishes too.

  613. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Neph – if you had said it JUST LIKE THAT you would have heard celebratory fireworks and parades…there is a short attention span on blog at times 😉

  614. Nephesh says:

    Nationalism follows close behind sexism in my books. What does saying eh have to do with being Canadian? I’m sure Texans sound different than Californians, and to assume that a west coaster would speak like a Texan is offensive no? Consensual reality is so disillusioned, eh?
    I’m loling and thank you for your comment ONSD.

  615. Nephesh says:

    @rembolder
    I don’t know why you seem to think that my post has nothing to do with sifting through the rubbish in order to find a gem. The reality I’m trying to bring up is that everyone is a gem to someone, and the trick is in having a clear idea of what YOUR gem looks like and then being able to communicate that through your profile, and most importantly respect it for the aspects that make it special.

  616. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Neph – I appreciate your profile…and you don’t end your posts or profile with “eh” so you’re not completely canadian 😉

  617. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Neph – pretty close (chose a significantly depressed city nearby to be less appealing to the random visitor)

  618. rembodler says:

    @Nephesh
    While it is refreshing to see a young inquisitive female mind, not utterly concerned with $/hour/date, I would venture a guess that it will be lost on most of us, concerned with the practicalities of sifting thru the rubbish in order to find a gem. I think most (me including) believe that once a gem is found, we will know what to do. While this may not necessarily be true, I find it a useful goal. In other words, one should study an art of fishing and not so much a Kama Sutra with the Mermaid.

  619. Nephesh says:

    Yes Josh. I wonder what kind of assumptions you are making, which stereotypes you are applying to my person…

  620. Josh says:

    Were you born in Canada?

  621. Nephesh says:

    @onsd,
    Was curious as to your location, is that factual?

  622. Nephesh says:

    @Josh
    Outter Space.
    aka Vancouver Canada.

  623. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Nephesh – the profile you visited is not the sugar me, just the hiding from public scrutiny me…therefore no pics, not even real stats…but thanks for checking me out 😉

  624. Josh says:

    @Nephesh, where are you from?

  625. Nephesh says:

    Thanks ONSD, I have a very clear idea of who I think I am, but I do not presume to merely talk about what I like or what I think or what I consider good or bad like some other people in this thread. What does one opinion matter in the end? It’s merely preference. I don’t think everyone here deserves to hear my preferences because many of you can’t seem to respect opinions that differ from your own. I try to formulate my ideas in terms of widely relatable feelings that are triggered by common issues we all face instead of acting like a sociopath.

  626. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Nephesh – for a first post, it was rather long…I was thinking to myself “who the hell does she think she is”…but it was well written and though out…I’m happy to learn more about you and your reasons for being in the Sugar Bowl!

  627. Chrissy says:

    @Josh
    This Chrissy would so never engage in that female logic. If I wasn’t going to let him touch me I would at least let him watch me touch myself.
    @ONSD
    Yeah I haven’t broken in all of the office furniture yet. I should order a shock therapy chair and say I need it to condition patients.
    @Catcher
    No one can hold me down! Not even shackled in a SD’s basement.
    @GP
    Thanks! I have missed everyone.

  628. Nephesh says:

    I just want to clarify that my post was intended for women and men. I was trying to illustrate the lack of self awareness that results in the externalizing of responsibility for both genders.

  629. Josh says:

    @Nephesh, you are funny in your own peculiar way.

  630. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – perfect reference!

  631. Nephesh says:

    @Josh
    I figured this thread could use some points that actually addressed the issues you all are complaining about. Seeing how your response is lacking any sort of intellectual standpoint I’ll consider my time wasted.

  632. Josh says:

    @Nephesh you should get together with @Goddess and see who can write better nonsense.

  633. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @chrissy – so, now you have new office furniture to abuse?

  634. Josh says:

    @Nephesh

    Long speech. You feel better now?

  635. Catcher 22 says:

    @Chrissy! Nice to see your return. I have been worried about you, and am happy that you have finally been released from whatever institution you had been confined to :-)

  636. Josh says:

    Watch 17:50 – 18:15

    [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZ1b1SlcANM]

  637. Nephesh says:

    This thread is almost impossible to follow. I don’t see why anyone should expect to be treated with any more respect on this site than they do in the rest of society, there are assholes everywhere – to assume that you are exempt from running into them is technically feeling ‘entitled.’ That being said, when I do receive respect I value it. I am not going to waste my energy being angry at people who are discriminatory, or at people who are disillusioned about how deep and genuine this kind of relationship can become. In contrast, I try very hard to find the people that are aware of how genuine it can be.

    I think there is a degree of public face that must be saved, this website is constantly scrutinized as a place where women could be taken advantage of and the only reason it’s more prominent than the issue of men being taken advantage of is because of our cultural history of patriarchy. I’m very aware of how our society is imbalanced; how men are generally assumed to be predators, how men’s sexuality is demonized so that he can’t even admit that he’s just looking for sex, because it makes him abusive?

    I’ve known male friends on this site who have been con’d, scammed, lied to. Women assume that their looks and body are desired and aren’t even aware of the gifts they have to give beyond physicality and therefore end up seeming self-centered and materialistic when they may just be at a loss to their true potential.

    The union between a man and a woman (adjust terms according to personal sexual orientation) can be so pure; it is in our nature to bring our unique energies to the table and give and take with others who have qualities that balance ours. It is age old and obvious that older men desire younger women, it’s bloody genetic for fucks sake; science says that men and women reach maturity at different ages. It’s normal for someone that has more to want to give to someone that has less – as long as they believe in the integrity of where their money/time/energy is going. Not long ago the wealthy were patrons to artists – is this any different? In ancient Sri Lanka the king had a harem; the women in this harem were respected, honoured, and valued as being exactly what they were, women. A womans touch is valued to a man, and a mans touch is valued to a woman. Why does our society not acknowledge this primal interaction as something to be respected? Something to call sacred? Perhaps it is because there is a good way to do it (which hardly gets done) and a bad way to do it (which gets publicized and perpetuated, hurt people hurt people…) Marriage used to fulfill the job of glorifying the union of man and woman, and since we have done away with the concept of marriage (in this intensive purpose) it is as if we did away with the reverence of connection.

    All I ask of people is that they are genuine. I ask you to look inside yourself and find your gifts, the special talents like compassion, optimism, critical thinking, creative thinking, humor. Look inside yourself again and find the parts of yourself that are begging to be heard; the holes that crave to be seen. Find out what you are truly missing in order to be balanced. Is it positive reinforcement? Is it someone to lighten the mood with a new perspective? Is it someone to bounce your ideas off of? Or is it that you are looking for someone else that needs you, so that you may feel needed, so that you may feel important. Are you looking for a purpose beyond your daily life? And if so, what do you want your purpose to breed? What goal that is bigger than your individual life are you trying to accomplish? Less racism, less suffering due to young people being misguided, more travel because travel brings self discovery…

    Be aware of yourself, of what you have to offer and what you need in order to be fulfilled, and don’t waste time with people who don’t want what you got and don’t have what you need.

  638. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    Hi Chrissy!
    Welcome back to Guru’s world. LOL
    Among others of course!

  639. Promise says:

    @Chrissy That’s……nice?

  640. Chrissy says:

    @ONSD All is super-terrific! I escaped the clutches of overbearing Cowboy, vacation, switched jobs, working 60 hr plus weeks . . . boring life.
    Now back on the market and all the joys of that!

    Glad to see things are going well with student. Hope they stay that way.

  641. Goddess says:

    Ha @Chrissy, @Josh is a hot one indeed because you know right away he’s a bit of a challenge. I’m liking the men of the blog thus far. :)

  642. Josh says:

    @Chrissy, LOL!

  643. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Chrissy – Hey there…long time…hope all is well?!

  644. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – I’m not saying that…but I know a crowd who will think it when someone waxes poetic with banter with Guru…

  645. Chrissy says:

    Whenever I rage fap thinking about Josh I totally imagine him doing yoga half naked. His golden Guru body glowing in all it’s glory.

  646. Josh says:

    Hmmm…so @Goddess = @Josh as well now?

  647. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – be careful…there is a crowd who will think you’re talking to yourself again 😉

  648. Josh says:

    I am the Guru.

  649. Goddess says:

    LOL you’re funny Josh, and quite astute. Is it that I am foreign really? One must wonder. 😉

  650. Josh says:

    American women don’t write like you…that’s why. :)

  651. Goddess says:

    Oh, from the Caribbean originally. I still have a home in the Leeward Antilles on a high hill overlooking the horizon. Why? :)

  652. Josh says:

    @Goddess, you are not from the US. Where are you from?

  653. Goddess says:

    Ah, my IP. Well this is true. I botched data on my profile a bit for privacy sake. None of my friends and family know I have a kinky streak. I just turned 33 and from the vicinity of Leesburg but not Leesburg itself. :)
    If the site asked for my age rather than my birth date though that info would be entirely accurate. It was not my intent to deceive however. Just being mindful of the permanent nature of putting things online.

  654. Josh says:

    @Goddess, where are you from?

  655. Goddess says:

    Also @Josh, I don’t blame you for not providing free advice, plenty of people get paid thousands for a single webinar. 😉 I am on all the good FREE ones where the gurus give a hand out and leg up advice wise. Like I said, I am not going to lament decisions made in regards to an SD. :)

  656. Goddess says:

    Hmmm, OK, steering clear it is. But life has been really good for me this past year. No idea what you could do to hurt me, I’m not incredibly sensitive @Josh. :) Also, as stated, I’m not really actively looking on SA, if I find someone great but I have two offline prospects I would like to pursue first and “see where things go”. Plus well, lost hours of work last night so this is a timeout. Nothing stated has been inaccurate on my part. :)

  657. Josh says:

    @Goddess,

    “@Josh seems to have gotten too confident in his clairvoyant abilities and is a tad more cynical than the average bear.”

    You might want to steer clear. Best of luck at SA.

  658. Josh says:

    @Goddess

    I don’t provide free advice anymore. They problem is that I don’t provide paid advice either. LOL!!!

    @ONSD is your best bet as he seems to enjoy helping SBs. 😉

  659. Goddess says:

    ha @OnlineNewbieSD, it might be that I’ve less of the “clingy” vibe and more a “cut to the chase” type of gal. Never been one to beat around the bushes. :)
    Negotiable as a category for me = whatever the SD decides= just dandy. I don’t like the idea of being compelled to do anything or compelling someone else to do anything. More a “cross teh bridge when we get there”. One of my three sites launched and attended my first promo event and meeting very hot well to do guys without much issue so… I must be doing something right, haha.
    And honestly stalking really sucks. Had two or three at the promo, and had a couple of real world stalkers and that is the only time as a woman I wish I had a man around as a form of security, LOL. So I totally understand.
    @Josh seems to have gotten too confident in his clairvoyant abilities and is a tad more cynical than the average bear. 😉

  660. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Goddess – you haven’t sent any flags waving for me, yet…but I did have a cyberstalker type from SA…asked for help on her profile and went a bit batshit crazy (as @Josh would say)…she’s blocked, but I think there’s an occasional hit from a newly created profile from her…

    I’m STILL not a fan of Negotiable as a category…I will continue to encourage both SB and SD to choose a category, then you can say in your profile what you will negotiate. There are just too many in that category to start with…and the ones that are actively soliciting arrangements tend to be the transactional type, which makes pots lump you into that category quicker!

    If I were headed that way, I would certainly set aside some time to talk…you can also feel free to send me a message at onsdthrowaway at gmail

    See, now if I get hit by a cyberstalker, I can just create a different email account and still have access to the contacts I want to keep from this one!

  661. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    Thanks guys!
    Yeah, I am kind of hot today.
    Probably doesn’t help that it’s >80 deg here in ATL and I’m trying to keep bills down, so using ceiling fans instead of AC. Everything is sweating here now. LOL (Maybe that will also help with the weight.)

  662. Goddess says:

    @Josh also I would love to know what part of me you think is faux because I would love to impart clarity on the matter sweet cheeks. :)

  663. Goddess says:

    Hahahaha, @Josh yes, but my rules of attraction are not set in stone. I think tying up someone is a nice alternative to sleeping with someone sans chemistry. I am happy it is a deterrent because a guy would have to REALLY be into me in order to try to pursue despite that. (See what I did thar?) 😉
    Also OnlineNewbieSD, love the batman phone idea *takes notes*. A chat over chai about advice without sex, kink or money being part of the equation is great for me, ergo my “negotiable” on my profile. I can find advice and mentorship more valuable than monetary investment. Time is valuable, I get that so in that case I would be have to be worth that coffee break methinkst. :)
    As far as discretion goes, I know it well and I am not one to air dirty laundry publicly. I know it was a playful suggestion so no worries, you’re safe. Pretty much why I reeled those dreams in to some degree. 😉
    Honestly I would not stalk some reluctant fellow when well, a girl does have options at the end of the day. :)
    Both of my best friends for a long time were extremely alpha and we had no issue with getting along and somehow both thought marriage would work, haha. So I can’t be all that scary. I would prefer a sub guy because well, letting kink go would be hard. It would have to be something big there for that to happen. :)
    I had my share of difficulty in life (due to just circumstance, it happens) and I definitely never whined, complained or self pitied. I always made the best of things. Life is awesome that way and you become better for it so yea, not the creeper SB trolling SD accounts. That is very outside character for me, no worries. :)

  664. Jaybird923 says:

    @Georgia it’s a great site. I always see things I’d like to do but in the end I end up lounging around the house in my underwear reading a book.

  665. Josh says:

    @GeorgiaPeach

    I have also waged war on my gut. Down a few pounds already with portion control and workouts.

  666. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @GP – there is a contingent of men who buck that trend (pun intended)

    You are on fire today!

  667. Josh says:

    Hahahahaha!!!

  668. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    @Josh
    Thank you Honey.
    (I’m also waging a war on this extra weight! LOL)
    The old adage of “guys don’t make passes at gals who wears glasses.”
    Well, now a days, “guys also don’t make passes at gals with fat asses.”
    LOL

  669. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – I’m just waiting for the crowd to start commenting about you complimenting yourself (@GP=@Josh)

  670. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – RE: @Goddess – that’s why I have the profile review account on here…so I can look at those and not have it get back to my Sugar account…

    I don’t have a problem with someone contributing to the blog…she hasn’t stepped out of bounds as far as I’m concerned…

  671. Josh says:

    @ONSD

    @GeorgiaPeach is smart, witty and FUN. :)

  672. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    @Online
    Thank you.
    (I’m also polite and mannerly.)
    😉

  673. Josh says:

    @ONSD

    @Goddess is full of shit. But since she is smart enough to refrain from messing with the @Guru, he will leave her alone with her own devices. LOL!!!

  674. Josh says:

    @ONSD

    I think that you explained it better. I am chivalrous without being asked, as in holding doors, ladies first, etc., with total strangers. However, I was talking about her proactively expecting me to be chivalrous for whatever nonsensical reason of her own. That’s a no no. Fuck that shit.

  675. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @GP – you’re hilarious…

  676. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – notice…above I said her pictures made me believe she would be entertaining for me…I hadn’t read her profile, just looked at her pictures…

    I saw her post about a small town, so I went back to look at the small town…she’s close enough to major metros to be inundated with pots…it’s her goal situation that is limiting her…and I only got that from actually reading the profile 😉

    I would have read her profile first, but she wasn’t asking for help, so I was just glancing instead of examining 😉

  677. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    @Josh
    So, you’re not a “door opener” kind of guy, huh? LOL
    It’s ok, I hope most females know how to use their arms and particularly their hands/fingers for pulling on things. LOL

  678. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – pretty good definition of “entertaining”…I would probably go a little light on the chivalry portion (because it’s natural for me to be chivalrous, however, her STOPPING to have me open a door would not fly)…

    As a married SD, the quick thinking is key to keep things flowing in public…if someone approaches, she should be ready to contribute to the story in some way to maintain the perception of business/mentor meeting, rather than lovers!

  679. Josh says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD

    “@Goddess – I just looked at your profile…your pictures belie your true identity…if your “What I’m Looking For” is accurate, you and I would NOT be a match”

    I didn’t get around to commenting on that. I knew once you read her profile you would change your stance. LOL!

  680. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Goddess – I just looked at your profile…your pictures belie your true identity…if your “What I’m Looking For” is accurate, you and I would NOT be a match, and your prospects on SA are probably very small in number…but you should still be able to find something more transient to entertain you between entrepreneurial tasks 😉

  681. Josh says:

    @GeorgiaPeach

    From the top of my head…

    1. Does not delve into “gender war” related shenanigans or even thoughts when she’s with me.
    2. Does not expect chivalry out of me.
    3. Possesses sharp wit.
    4. Is an impromptu BSer.
    5. Is able to go with the flow to enhance our fun together, and not at the expense of one or the other.

  682. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Goddess – is your profile location accurate? If so, you’re not in a small town…you’re within an hour of a MECCA city…at least for my type of SD…if you’re okay with some transient Sugar, or remote Sugar, you should do VERY WELL!

  683. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Jay & @GP – now ladies…there’s no need to fight…I appreciate you BOTH…but my memory was that it was a SD that first brought it up?

  684. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    @JayBird
    I am quite sure we must be both of “great minds” – yours is just a bit younger than mine, while mine is a bit more “experienced.” LOL

    I scanned thru possibilities for meetup.com but I’ve been so busy this week, I haven’t had time to stop and actually find one. I’ve had to work at the office an extra day this week and I’m helping out with my church’s VBS next week by doing prep work – spreadsheets with volunteer info, etc. So it’s been a very full week, plus just trying to keep up a little here. LOL I am sure I will find something in the next couple weeks though. Thanks again for that site though, I’d never heard of it.

  685. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Goddess – does that mean you’re usually in a skirt/dress? 😉

  686. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Goddess – I firmly believe in @Josh’s stance…blog SBs are not allowed to be in an arrangement with me…it could get too messy on blog 😉

    However…”getting together” whether virtually or in reality is a possibility. And I use quotes because it’s non-sexual. I had lunch with @SexyRockstar and drummer with Student. It was fun. We continue to talk about getting a group of contributors together in Chicago, I’m hopeful!

    There’s no reason an entrepreneur can’t talk to someone about the trails and tribulations of starting and managing a growing business…I would completely agree about the priorities…My stance: #1 – Family; #2 – Business #3 – Sugar…I won’t fault a SB who has a family emergency and has to cancel last minute (if it happens often, that’s another story, because I don’t like drama)…I also try to ignore my phone and email when together, but have a specific number that will ring, regardless of how my volume is set (I call it the batphone)…office knows it is only to be used in extreme emergency situations (because I may be in an important “meeting”)…I have a GREAT story about that batphone issue with a past lover, I would also give some leniency to an entrepreneurial SB that got a “batphone” call while we were together…because mentorship and investment go hand-in-hand 😉

  687. Goddess says:

    As far as fun factor on my end goes, I have always had a real attraction to sophisticated men and I’m pretty primal. I’m just waiting to get one naked but it does take someone making an impression on me which very seldom happens. Also, on the up side I’m wearing pants today. I consider that an accomplishment. :)

  688. Jaybird923 says:

    @Georgia did you have any luck finding an exercise group in your area?

  689. Jaybird923 says:

    @Georgia I must disagree … Unless we both happen to say the same brilliant things at the same time there were a bunch of conversation threads going on simultaneously . Are we both great minds? lol

  690. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    @Online
    Excuse me “JayBird” it was me. LOL

  691. GeorgiaPeach12 says:

    @Josh
    So, do tell, please. What do you consider as the “fun factor” with your SB’s?

  692. Jaybird923 says:

    @online That was me. I say the most brilliant things lol

  693. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    Now, I had to separate this post…I’m wondering if any other SDs have had this type of experience…

    I’m sitting at the dealership because of a car issue…my cell phone rings, it’s a number that looks familiar, but not in callerID…I decide to live dangerously and answer it…it’s a young sounding woman who saw an ad I had placed in a local publication (now I know it was forwarded from the office) with a great proposal about another advertising possibility…blah, blah, blah…I very nearly hung up (because I couldn’t get a word in during her script) but her voice caught my attention and my mind immediately started thinking, “I wonder if she’s as hot as her voice sounds”…only to be startled back to reality by “Okay, I’m done, what do you think?”…I said, “I really need to see samples, be able to examine some numbers”…she said, “how about lunch?”…I thought, “well, here’s the perfect opportunity to see for myself” and said, “I think I can make that work…when were you thinking?”

    We’ll see how this goes…might be a longer-term cultivation as a backup in case Student falls victim to sabotage 😉

  694. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – I’m glad you caught that…it was included specifically for YOU!

    Whoever posted in the recent (like up to three blogs ago) memory banks about this being the REVERSE of the dating world is COMPLETELY right…and it took TODAY for me to specifically catch it!

    In the “regular” world, the FYT (that’s fine young thing, because I refuse to recognize the child molester’s acronym) gets to dance around with all the DYS (that’s Dumbass Young Studs for those wondering) competing for her attention…but…in the Sugar Bowl, there really are dozens of FYT available to the SD, whether it’s IRL of on SA…she’s confused, because the DYS will walk through fire to get in her pants and she can’t understand why the SD wants her to dance around a bit before letting her get in his wallet!

    Entertainment factor is still huge…Student is not a “10” but she’s a solid 7-8…but her entertainment factor is a 10, when she’s on her game. It’s worth it for the entertainment!

  695. Josh says:

    @ONSD

    You’re so right about having an “entertaining” SB.

    I find most women to be boring as fuck for me, and the princesses want me to enhance their fun and finances instead.

    That’s why I am lax on age, weight, looks, etc., but more interested in the fun factor.

  696. Goddess says:

    LOL! @RussianSB is hilarious. But you’d look fabulous doing it darling. 😉

  697. RussianSB says:

    @Online, I deside to write in my profile : ” I want to show me a hard times ! “? Why, do you think babysitting drunk oligarch is an easy job ?

  698. Goddess says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD, oh trust me, I had a lot of growing up to do, LOL. In my early 20’s I held adventure in my heart like a lot of these young SBs and you know, it was a wonderful time. I wanted to see the world, meet new people, taste new foods and in that vacuum working as hard as I do now was not a priority. Owning and managing a business is not smooth sailing, takes work and sacrifice and totally understand that. Obstacles, setbacks etc are expected and sometimes you have to recalibrate and figure out how things work. This all takes a tremendous amount of energy vs sailing the Caribbean in a skimpy bikini sipping on cocktails and wearing Louboutins on her perfectly manicured feet. That would be amazing and it totally is for the younger SBs, they have time to live la vida loca. There’s mutual benefit there when the guy works and his young, bubbly and fun SB is his down time. Upkeep is work (to look gorgeous daily) so these girls are making real efforts to keep their Daddies happy in my opinion, the legit ones. I think quintessentially that works for most SDs as again, I don’t know if I can every really go totally off the clock. Checking emails, texts and voicemails daily is a must and handling orders at least for the foreseeable future.
    An investment SD is precisely what I was seeking so maybe we would be well matched. :)
    Honestly I do love the other version of sugar though, especially as a young girl in college. Not having a full schedule allows me the time to focus on my projects. I don’t see that happening for a girl who’s in school or currently working in a set schedule. So there’s all delightfully different brands of SBs out there. I like girls with whimsical energy, they are LOADS of fun too. :)
    Definitely not my raison d’etre to say my scenario is better, it would be misleading haha. Most days my hair is up in a messy bun and I do my own mani pedis vs perfect hair, makeup and manicured hands and feet. So there’s always a tradeoff. :)

  699. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @rem – you’re right…I don’t search for Substantial or High…and I only look through the Moderate for profiles that look like they could demand the 5k plus, to see if I can get a deal 😉

  700. Jaybird923 says:

    @Online lol yes Sir 😉

  701. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Jay – I was also trying to provide the SD counterpoint to what you outlined…in the same way I did originally with you for your profile 😉

  702. rembodler says:

    Moderate, Substantial, High…
    It is amazing how many aspiring SBs who put “High” in their profile have no idea in the slightest what it really means in SA terms… My suggestion to the aspiring SDs is to ignore that category and soldier on with your introduction. If she really means her “High”, she will let you know or block you. And you can happily move on to someone more reasonable.

  703. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Jay – I wasn’t reprimanding…this time…I save that for special situations 😉

  704. Jaybird923 says:

    @Online I wasn’t disagreeing with you. I was offering an insight/possible reasoning for why. At least in my case you were right about the negotiable category.

  705. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Goddess – you sound like my kind of SB…I’m what I call an Investment SD…I like to know the allowance is going to be a good investment in the SB’s life…if you’re in Sugar to boost a marketing budget for a business, that’s investment AND mentorship…and you’re profile pics tell me I’d be entertained by your company 😉

    It’s too bad there aren’t more SBs that understand that side of Sugar…it would make my Sugar experience a lot easier on SA!

  706. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Jay – Something about 3k in the bank being better than 7k in a dream world…also…the guy willing to do 7k is happy to START at 3k, spoil in addition to the allowance, then move things to higher allowances when she proves her value to his life…

    Oh, and, if she really expected 10k a month, or 7k, she really needed to make her profile exhibit that level of sophistication…she was sporting a Minimal profile, in my opinion.

    That’s why I like Moderate for SBs…it tells the Substantial SD he’s getting a “deal” at the start, but it also gives the Practical SD hope he could negotiate a starting in his budget range. Negotiable is mediocre, escort, p2p, etc. I know, it’s my opinion, but when you look at the numbers and the profiles, you MUST face the FACTS (that is, if the numbers have ANY base in reality – which is being questioned now)

  707. Goddess says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD, ugh, that sucks. Especially since time is remarkably valuable in the business world. I can empathize with the guys here. My best advice? Try skyping before meeting. I don’t see why there would be an issue with scheduling a skype call before meeting and if the SD is more comfortable with face off cam for fear of being recorded, totally valid. Hopefully she will understand the need for privacy. I had to learn how to maneuver the internet quickly because there’s a lot of possibility on here if utilized properly. And omg @10k, I could make millions in a year with that kind of advertising budget, hahaha. I used to spend a lot on my jeans and purses but my priorities have shifted. You only live once though. Enjoy ladies and gents, enjoy!

  708. Jaybird923 says:

    @online I think the problem with some of them is they don’t want to sell themselves short. They are afraid if they put practical they’ll miss out on the guy willing to pay high. If they put high they can negotiate. Maybe he won’t give her $10,0000 but he might agree to $7000 but if she puts $3000 the same guy that might have been amiable to $7000 will only give $3000. At least that’s my take on the situation.

  709. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Goddess – taking things offline quickly can be a great strategy…when both of you are being honest and communicative…I find that SBs are quick to schedule something offline, but just as quick to disappear from existence right after scheduling it!

  710. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    Had a funny interaction…a message from a SB, her profile indicated High Expectation level…I responded with a polite, I think our Expectations are too different, but thanks for the interest…she responded that she was open to negotiate, and has since changed her profile to Negotiable…

    Do I think she’s really Negotiable? Not really…and this is ANOTHER reason to avoid the Negotiable profiles! She really expects 10k a month and more, but is willing to negotiate with a profile that is set at Practical? How would she expect to be happy with 3k a month when she’s expecting 10k a month?

  711. Goddess says:

    Forgive the typos, my dyslexia is mildly acting up and should have proofread that one. 😉
    As far as the men go, well…I mean I am not expecting to meet someone who will be my prince charming, will be comfortable with my having a similarly busy schedule to his and desiring to create my own little empire and who has had nothing but positive experiences/is new and is yet to be jaded. At the Sugarbowl yes, I would say chances multiply tenfold. Or any such venue. The more Sugarbowls the better, and practical daddies should leap at this opportunity to meet anyone on here who did capture his attention. It is just so different emailing someone back and forth vs locking eyes across the room.
    Also I too currently reside in a small town. I budget my way around my vacations and plans if any though most are work related nowadays so no worries, I can relate. Even greater urgency for getting out there in a festive venue where people are having a good time vs ominous back and forth leading probably nowhere. Men do not chase after me online, that much I do know. I get the hellos, let’s get to know each other but fine example is a wannabe sub finally met me last weekend and he has been WAY less busy than ever before. My energy is entirely different online vs offline. People thought I was this sweet innocent thing LOL. I say the sooner you take things offline, the better. Skyping is a great way to break ice if you do seek online.

  712. Goddess says:

    @hottotrot I didn’t know it showed but don’t mind either way. Thanks sweetheart! But have to say I love my carbs, I just happen to be big on cardio and strength training. No diets for this girl! In fact eating throughout the day helps my metabolism. (Sorry everyone for short derail. @ss1959 you seem to be sturring the pot by purporting that the site has poor filter, and in a way that made me chuckle. :)
    I think they do have an approval process but human error happens with so many people. Additionally, the beauty of being wealthy is being able to fly wherever within a week when schedule clears to meet someone and hopefully that trip won’t place you solidly in the poor house. I see no issue with speed dating a bit til you snag someone vs never doing anything and failure to launch. Makes sense yea? :)

  713. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Russian – Yeah, stats going to dustbin would destroy me! Hahahahaha

  714. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Russian – glad to hear I’m not talking to myself!

    Just received a message from a profile saying “I want you to show me a good time”…REALLY?

    SBs…you MUST speak to what you can bring TO the SD, NOT what you want the SD to bring to your life!

    Your “About Me” section should talk about situations and activities where you enjoy being with a successful man, not a laundry list of likes that Instagram SBs have said gets them cash…

    Your “What I’m looking for” section should describe traits of the man you want, not a list of the brands, sites, locations, stores, etc.

    Holy Shit…it’s not THAT diffi ult, but it DOES take some work!

    Sugar might not be how you earn your living, but it IS a type of job, and those successful in the Bowl treat it as such!

  715. RussianSB says:

    Then all statistics go to dust bin ! Awww, no !!!!

  716. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    Yeah, there’s something funky going on with SA…I had exchanged a couple of messages with someone and as I looked to respond this morning, her picture was grayed out in the Inbox…then, when I clicked through to the actual message, it said her profile was no longer active (but the green !ight indicated she was online)…what is SA doing here? It feels like all reality has left the building…can’t trust activity indicators, can’t trust search results, very few actual SB profiles IMHO…not cool, at all!

  717. RussianSB says:

    There is appfoval team ! When I place in my profile part of James Brown song ” It is a man’s world ” – the team write to me that very day, that content must be approptiate :)

  718. RussianSB says:

    @Online- you are not alooone …

  719. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Russian – I feel like you have in the past…tough carrying on a conversation with yourself!

  720. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @SS – could you imagine the OUTRAGE if SA revoked the membership of every SB profile that was reported as escort? Or every SD profile that was rude or obvious john?

    I think we’d be down to a couple hundred SBs and a couple dozen SD!

  721. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Promise – I hope you reported it…that’s why I tineye profile pics…oops…just told every stripper and escort to use pictures different from Eros and BP…but I don’t think they’ll understand this conversation anyways…

  722. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @SS – agreed…however, during the Disqus blog Jeff said there IS a team approving profiles, watching posts and building content…it’s tough to believe when you hear stories about profiles with a rate card, messages talking about “wanting a black slave”, even the pictures with a stripper pole, or in a strip club changing room…where is the quality control for those approving?

  723. hototrot says:

    @Goddess
    I hope you don’t mind me referencing your profile, but your body is sick!!! Wow. I don’t think I’m eating carbs today (:

  724. Promise says:

    @ONSD You don’t know how right you are. I remember seeing someone with a Kpop star as their profile picture. The celebrities name was even in their username. I’m waiting to see if any SD’s have seen girls with Beyonce as their profile picture.

  725. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    The trouble with an article about where SBs and SDs come from is…there are SBs and SDs are EVERYWHERE! It’s STILL a matter of writing to find your best match, posting pics that accentuate your narrative and show reality of who you are, communicating desires/expectations/minimums in a respectful way, following through on commitments, under promising and over delivering, avoiding sabotage once you’ve started the arrangement…and…drum roll please…be entertaining and positive!

  726. ss1959 says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD: “I think the problem is there really isn’t anyone approving profiles”

    I suspect you’re right, but then why pretend there’s an approval process? Just let profiles post automatically and cut out the delay.

  727. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @SS – I think the problem is there really isn’t anyone approving profiles…when I created my profile assisting profile (because I didn’t want my Sugar profile connected to the SBs I was helping) it was blatantly obvious by the language, like if you see this profile you asked for help on your profile…maybe it was approved because it was obvious?

  728. hototrot says:

    @Goddess

    “If you have a hard time meeting people, try different methods. I had a guy holding my elevator and on his knees begging for my attention while I ignored him and called a cab. They’re out there. But asking a group of incompatible guys about their preferences is a TOTAL waste of time and energy.”

    If you live in an urban center, this really shouldn’t be a problem if you’re attractive. Heck, even unattractive women get hit on constantly in NY. Men like women. But, I grew up in middle earth aka Kansas, and I know how hard it can be for people in less populated places. I think there should also be a post tailored to the types of cities/towns sbs and sds come from. This one-size fits all format isn’t working.

  729. ss1959 says:

    @Promise, had a bit of breathing room from work so have been spending time outside running and cycling and hiking and such. But now it’s back to the grind and distracting myself here.

  730. hototrot says:

    I would love to see a freelancing article.

  731. Promise says:

    @ss1959 I haven’t seen you in forever! Has life been good?

  732. hototrot says:

    @cryptic

    @ HottoTrot – You will find that I am rather non egotistical, my comments weren’t about black women in general, if you re-read what I wrote it was aimed at the black women who complain about it, not black women in general. And by no means do I think a whole race of women are crying over their soup because men don’t favour them. So when was the last time a “Sista” as you put it approached me in real life? A few days ago, we had a nice chat and a coffee. Thanks for asking. I’m sorry they never approach you as you answered “Never”.”

    This topic has been run into the ground and the level of outrage at the alleged entitlement black sbs have for white sds is laughable. I think your premise might have had some legs in blogs past, but hardly true now. A few experiences documented does not a movement make. If you read most posts by black sbs, you’ll find that many are doing alright in the sugarbowl. But harping on the disgruntled few, makes you sound like you’re gloating. And gloating about a narrative that bares no resemblance to real life is silly.

  733. ss1959 says:

    No escorts on SA? Really?

    Saw a profile last week where she listed her rates by the hour and half hour!

    Who approves these profiles?

  734. ss1959 says:

    What the heck is a “level of discrepancy”?

  735. Mindy says:

    @LaniDoe
    “Maybe I expect too much, haha, but oh well. I’d rather be picky in this regard.”

    I think it’s okay to be choosy. If you’re uncomfortable about something at the beginning, then probably it’s best to follow your intuition and not proceed further.
    In your case, maybe you can send a short follow up message to remind them?

  736. cryptic anomaly says:

    @ IHF2030 – Thank you, they do come across that way as if every 4th SB must be African American.

    @ HottoTrot – You will find that I am rather non egotistical, my comments weren’t about black women in general, if you re-read what I wrote it was aimed at the black women who complain about it, not black women in general. And by no means do I think a whole race of women are crying over their soup because men don’t favour them. So when was the last time a “Sista” as you put it approached me in real life? A few days ago, we had a nice chat and a coffee. Thanks for asking. I’m sorry they never approach you as you answered “Never”.

    :-)

  737. Goddess says:

    If you have a hard time meeting people, try different methods. I had a guy holding my elevator and on his knees begging for my attention while I ignored him and called a cab. They’re out there. But asking a group of incompatible guys about their preferences is a TOTAL waste of time and energy.

  738. IHF2030 says:

    Good to see that lil miss ghetto “fabulous” is back in rare form.

  739. hototrot says:

    “affirmative action sugaring??? That’s freakin hilarious!”

    Again, most black women are not into you like that. Just because a few desperate (for money) chicks complain on this board about not getting chosen, doesn’t mean a whole race of women is crying in their soup over you. Get over yourself. Think about it, when’S the last time a sista stepped to you in IRL. I’ll answer that question myself: NEVER.

  740. hototrot says:

    My crush just set a date with me after a trial he has to participate in. I won’t say more because I don’t want to jinx it!

  741. IHF2030 says:

    affirmative action sugaring??? That’s freakin hilarious!

  742. Jaybird923 says:

    @cryptic Okay I’ll check it out.

  743. cryptic anomaly says:

    @ Jay, Just emailed you. xxx

  744. Jaybird923 says:

    @cryptic on another note, this line made me laugh my ass off.”some of them carry on as if they think there should be affirmative action sugaring.”

  745. Jaybird923 says:

    @Cryptic I’m hurt! I had so many plans for us. There were so many places we could be lazy together. Tell me I’m the exception to your rule. LOL

  746. cryptic anomaly says:

    @ Promise – Yeah I saw that about submitting blogs and clicked it but unless they respond to me I still don’t know where to submit a blog.

    @ Keke – How did I make you feel like a wallet?

    @ Cleopatra – You have the right attitude, different men like different types of women. If some men don’t like black women then the black SB’s need to accept that, some of them carry on as if they think there should be affirmative action sugaring.

    @ ONSD – Yep, I want to know that the woman gets what this is really about. Some think it is money for nothing and for that I blame the bimbos who go Dr Phil etc who false advertise this site. Hope it goes well with your Pot SB.

    @ Cucumber – In regards to the Lily saga, no she didn’t say she was against being intimate but I was in a tired and grumpy mood and she did come across as being all about what she wants, none of which included what she could offer. I know she was just asking a question but it was the way she came across to me nonetheless.

    @ Charlotte – Judging by appearance is an interesting topic. Whether a man realizes it or not most times he likes the way a woman looks because there is something about her which sparks something in him. An appearance that makes him think of someone he had a crush on or a fantasy or anything else. For me personally I prefer the girl next door type, so looks do matter to me even though I obviously want chemistry as well. In terms of race or skin colour well people like what they like, I am not that attracted to Non White women, even when I see one that I think is pretty I still am not attracted as such. I’m not into the whole PC bullshit thing going on so couldn’t care less if someone wants to scream racism about that, like I said we all like what we like.

  747. Anonymous says:

    lanidoe – “can’t keep his word”

    I think it is a good concept, but seriously the death penalty for littering.

  748. Jaybird923 says:

    @Cucumber LOL prepare yourself for the onslaught

  749. CucumberOnLids says:

    Child Support Worries? Get a Vasectomy or find someone that enjoys anal preferably another guy. /m|=^.^=/m\

  750. FunDude says:

    @Fly

    I agree

  751. RussianSB says:

    Site also use shill to calculate rude or escortish (both parties) members.

  752. THEATLSD says:

    Good job Russian and your right. If a SB/SD writes a one liner if they are real what are they going to be like in real life.

  753. RussianSB says:

    Shill is fake cool profile to attract new members.

  754. THEATLSD says:

    Shill
    a person who poses as a customer in order to decoy others into participating, as at a gambling house, auction, confidence game, and DATING SUGAR SITES

  755. RussianSB says:

    No, now I know – I google all new words.

  756. Jaybird923 says:

    @ATL what is a shill?

  757. FlyBoy says:

    FunDude:

    You don’t agree with prenups? Gold diggers would never sign a prenup and will expect half of your shit, alimony, child support, your house, etc.

    It has nothing to do with gold digging. She is a bitch and you are a weakling. Marrying a woman that will not follow your lead will result in a shit show of a marriage, whether you are living in the US or the traditional middle east.

    As far as my opinion of prenups; they are essential.

    Cheers :)

  758. THEATLSD says:

    @Russian. Are saying you do not know what a Shill is?

  759. Josh says:

    I would rather have @Russian brand of gold digger than a boring kind. I like her humor. 😉

  760. RussianSB says:

    And , generally, if gifl write one sentense in profile – imagine how fun and entertaining shd is in real life !

  761. RussianSB says:

    THEATLSD one text girl, can be froud, most of that few-days-living profiles don’t care to fill all the forms of the profile.
    I always read, even crazy 3 pages profiles, I so dissapointed when guys have short and simple self-description . No, I like sparkles and jokes in profiles !

  762. FlyBoy says:

    No Russian, I am not one of the veterans. I have been on this blog for a few months, that’s all. I, however, read some of the old blog comments and the conversation was much more fun than it is right now.

    Cheers :)

  763. FunDude says:

    @Russian

    Prenups are good. We can agree.

    @Flyboy

    You don’t agree with prenups? Gold diggers would never sign a prenup and will expect half of your shit, alimony, child support, your house, etc.

  764. RussianSB says:

    THEAT LSD.
    So, SA also have shills (I learn a new world ) ?

  765. RussianSB says:

    Flyboy, they so severe on uou, but seems that you one from veterans – I remember your gravatar from old times ! Unlike all that angry folk. I miss Tina and Midwest, they were so wise and polite ladies.

  766. THEATLSD says:

    My two cents on the “when to revoke access” to private pics. It’s different for SB then SD.
    The SB’s receive a lot more hits, requests then SD’s. With that said a SD should respond relatively
    quick but 24 hours is not enough time. If they are picture collectors they will copy the pic in the
    first hour so that should not be a factor. As for SD revoking, I rarely unlock my pics. I have to have a message
    or two and some interest or I will not unlock them. When I do I usually unlock for a week then revoke if
    nothing comes of it. I did find out something from one of the SB I was conversing with. I revoked the pictures after about
    5 days, I saw she was online a lot and figure she had no interest she then messaged me and asked to unlock pictures. She apologized but explained that she gets so inundated with messages it takes a while to go through them all.
    As for responding to every message, I did that in the beginning then after a while I realized some of these SB are just “shills” for SA and others rarely responded unless they were interested.

    I did send a message to a smoking hot SB in another state that requested my pics. Her profile narrative was one run sentence
    written in text form. This girl could get substantial or high if she wanted but the narrative was so bad it probably turned off any SD of means in her area. I sent her a nice message and gave her some advice on upping the ante. Her response. “I’m not reading all that.” Ok, continue to marvel in the fact no real SD are contacting you. What a DB.

  767. RussianSB says:

    God, make the same mistake that thd man who offered that to me.
    Prenuptial agreement.

  768. FlyBoy says:

    I know he can afford an allowance. His problem is far more severe than being broke. At least being broke can be remedied.

    Cheers :)

  769. RussianSB says:

    @FunDude, I am not golddigger, I agree to sign pren-up.

  770. RussianSB says:

    @FlyBoy, actually I think he can afford allowance, but he is like “noway , biotches you will get it from me ! “

  771. RussianSB says:

    FlyBoy, he has name for everyone, nothing personal. I wonder how he will label the couple, obviously boy are talented !

  772. RussianSB says:

    You call me a golddigger, oh, you are so soft tonight, you can do better !
    From you it rather compliment.

  773. FlyBoy says:

    The only one’s who hate ‘gold diggers’ are the broke ones. This is an eternal and universal truth.

    Cheers :)

  774. RussianSB says:

    No, I think they are nice couple for a kid like you. I also hope that your scan will help to find out that they are fake – you good at that !

  775. gentleman soul says:

    Jaybird923
    @anonymous was it your intent to remain anonymous or did you just forget to add your name?

    Hi all , so sorry -in my excitement to send my thoughts out I forgot to fill in the name.

  776. FunDude