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The Sugar Affair Recap
  • Posted May 7, 2014

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Thank you everyone for coming to our New York event.

For those who didn’t make it, we are planning another party in the near future, so look out for email announcements.

For Babies last Friday at Yotel in NYC, meeting a Sugar Daddy was easy. The Sugar Affair was not just an upscale event swarming with eligible benefactors, it was a chance for everyone to make the right connections.

If you’re wondering what exactly went down, or have any post event questions, read on. For questions, leave it in the comments and I’ll answer any remaining queries.

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In the beginning, sugar seekers started arriving at 8:30pm in hopes of being the first to meet a new flame. I had the privilege of checking people in at the door, and scoping out all the gorgeous users who decided to come out.

Dapper Daddies in black tuxes perused the buffet of charming women atop the modern rooftop terrace. There were two ladies for every Daddy, so many side conversations were composed of very happy gentleman getting plenty of attention.

By 10pm, the place was packed with masked minglers. Over 300 of New York’s beautiful people enjoyed tuna tartare and a plethora of tasty desserts, including a few adorable cupcake shoes.

Thanks to a few outgoing partiers, the dance floor was heating up as Daddies showed off their moves… or at least made valiant efforts. The skilled mixologists paired with the seductive allure of masked attendees was enough to make even the shyest Sugar Daddies hit the dance floor by the end of the night.

The Sugar Affair VIP

Our VIP room was spacious and exclusive, where top tier Daddies could get know the ladies a little better. The swankiest party goers got to sit down next to Founder and CEO Brandon Wade for an intimate setting complete with bottle service.

There were several media present at the event. This New York Post article  gives an awesome recount of the event, though she failed to mention all the attractive men I saw. From the looks of this soiree, a life of sugar is definitely one to consider.

The Sugar Affair Party

At 11pm, the masks came off, and all were invited to reveal their true forms. Bombshell Babies and silver foxes were tipsy by this time, and friendly conversations began to transform into affectionate exchanges.

The terrace was a bit chilly, and I observed several scenes of Daddies snuggled with three or four ladies under plaid blankets and heating lamps. It seems all the gentlemen in VIP left the party with exactly what they came for.

When last call rolled around, many members had already left with someone they’d met at the party. The official after-party was at Suite 36 where guests could extend their night dancing and munching on late night snacks.

Overall, the event was a raging success.

Daddies who were skeptical at the beginning left with the cream of the crop, and in some cases more than one Baby. Several attendees told me “You guys should do this every month!”

Even the security guards and bartenders of Yotel were impressed, and said they’d love to host another Seeking Arrangement event, and it wasn’t just because they got hit on by beautiful women. The caliber of this event was a step above, and the crowd was like none they had ever experienced. A big shoutout goes to Justin, our brilliant party planner at Ifill Events, without whom none of this would have been possible.

Fortunately for those who missed this ball, we’re planning another one soon. It seems that people love our events, and for good reason. We pride ourselves in luxury and satisfaction, and promise to deliver.

How was the party for you?

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641 Responses to “The Sugar Affair Recap”

  1. ertulo says:

    congratulations

  2. aninashe says:

    Its a shame such an events never take place here in beautiful London.

  3. euphoria says:

    I like my iphone. I have an app that changes the number every time i call a new person. But ive figured out that if you call someone from a blocked/restricted number, the real number will still show up on a phone bill. So now I have a cheap $2 per day phone that i just put a min of $10 per month on. I use it to interview new pots. If I find one that is worth my time then I give him my number and don’t reload the $2 per day number. yay!

  4. Samantha says:

    Are u planning to organize this kind of party in London?

  5. Jj says:

    @Southern: Most land line services offer a call id block feature as a matter of security for the line holder; usually it is *67, *69 (star on keypad). Check your local phone book as it should have details.

  6. Josh says:

    @Kindred Spirit

    Well the land line and basic cell phones work when your life and business does not revolve around your cell phone. It is my alarm clock, watch, email checker, intrnet browser, personal check depositor, weather checker, camera, navigator, flash light, etc., etc., etc., and last but not the least flirt machine. 😉

  7. KatPaw says:

    I personally am lost with out my cell phone!

  8. Kindred Spirit says:

    SouthernSB, you are not alone! :)
    I prefer my landline (cord and a cordless). I use a pre-paid, very basic mobile phone for when I travel, but otherwise it sits in a drawer at home.

  9. FlyR says:

    Killing caller I’d Check with your phone company Codes differ

  10. SouthernSB says:

    WTH…That post looks like an senior wrote it after they got in the liquor cabinet. Please forgive that totally unreadable post.

  11. SouthernSB says:

    @Richard-Thanks I knew there was a use for this blog other than listening to stories about “rinsers” who have no intentions of holding up their end of the bargain. Although, if the men they have they are talking to are so lonely and desperate as to be swayed by a bunch of spoiled brat manipulators who don’t even like them who am I to say anything about it?
    @Josh-Sorry, I do have a touch tone but believe it or not it does have,are you sitting down, a cord!!

  12. Josh says:

    @Richard

    I am still looking to get a spot in you logic class. 😉

  13. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB

    Dial 1167 before the destination number to block your number from showing up on the other side. Since you have the land line, I went one step further and assumed that you have a rotary phone. LOL!

    If you have a digital land line phone then you punch *67 before the destination number.

    Test it with someone you know to get comfortable with this feature.

  14. Richard says:

    @SouthernSB – Yes, you can. Use Google Voice and you can make calls from any phone line or from your computer using a microphone and speakers. You can also text from your computer. I’m sure there are other similar services out there.

  15. Kms2014 says:

    Good advice, Richard.

  16. Kms2014 says:

    “The discussion of the guy wanting a phone number raises a red flag because the normal request is to talk not for the number. It might have just been inarticulate wording but a sensitive pot sd would express a desire to talk a and left the mechanics or timing to you. It’s. a a small red flag, don’t close your eyes or be overly focused on the sugar”

    Yes, exactly…never give my number out to someone, unless they show this respect, however, there are some scamsters out there who are ‘that good’, too, so always be aware and such…

    Have seen this book before, flyR but now might have to read it (:

  17. SouthernSB says:

    @Richard is there a way to hide your phone # if you have a landline? I don’t actually own a cell phone. I know I know, I’m the last living person without one.

  18. Richard says:

    I think FlyR has some good advice. There are crazy and borderline crazy people on SA, both male and female. I’ve had two women who made pretty significant threats against me, sparked by nothing more than me expressing a lack of interest in them. I’m sure women on SA have similar stories.

    Under no circumstances would I give anyone you’ve just met online your real mobile number (use Google Voice or one of the other services). Nor would I give them your real name or any information they could use to find out your true identity. I’d also suggest you use Google Image Search to check out any images you post, many times they will link directly back to one of your social media accounts.

    Once you have established a baseline level of trust then you can start sharing more information. Lots of predators out there, so be careful!

  19. Josh says:

    @flyR

    Now that’s the fodder for making the hell break loose here at the blog. 😉

  20. FlyR says:

    One additional point. deBecker did the questions that most police departments use to screen for the potential for domestic violence it’s in the book. Twenty simple questions. After the fact OJ scored a perfect 20

  21. Josh says:

    @Kms

    Did I ever say that flyR were nonsensical or invalid. You must’ve confused me with someone else. 😉

  22. FlyR says:

    THE VOICE

    Highly recommended for every young woman. The Gift Of Fear. DeBecker

    the essence of the message is that we are bombarded with messages of political correctness, courtesy etc that lead good people to do stupid things. There’s also the need to maintain situational awareness and finally a threshold . In the worst case you need to think about the difference between a resource predator and the far more dangerous social predator.

    The discussion of the guy wanting a phone number raises a red flag because the normal request is to talk not for the number. It might have just been inarticulate wording but a sensitive pot sd would express a desire to talk a and left the mechanics or timing to you. It’s. a a small red flag, don’t close your eyes or be overly focused on the sugar

  23. sugarsparkle says:

    Happy Friday! (((hugs)))

  24. KatPaw says:

    Happy Friday Sugarrrrrrrs

  25. Kms2014 says:

    I actually think FlyR made a very sensical and valid point, in regards to listening to that ‘voice inside you’. How many women have been taken advantage of by a predator, online or in a real-world setting, when they did not listen to the ‘voice’, or basically their intuition, inside their head? Women, who wanted to ignore or not answer, yet were worried they might be perceived as a ‘b**ch’ or rude, by men or society. Not really my idea of ‘deep’ thinking…more likely, just trusting your own instincts with a sprinkle of common sense. Janebaby is clever to want to err on the side of caution. Lots of scam artists on this site, both male and female.

  26. Josh says:

    @SunShineSD,

    I do not think there’s a right or wrong way other than listening to the voice inside you. 😉

  27. SunshineSD says:

    @Josh,
    I take it your primary focus in life is the pursuit of your own individual happiness, yes?
    Since sexual nirvana for you is cheap and never more than a month away at any time anyway, do you consider avoidance of pain a higher order of happiness?
    How many moons do you think you have left in your sand clock? What about avoiding pain in those months ahead?

  28. Josh says:

    @SunShineSD

    I told you that for deep thinking you should ask flyR. For example, a man asks a woman her phone number and this is what the deep thinking flyR has to say:

    I do not think there’s a right or wrong way other than listening to the voice inside you.

    Above is equally good answer if you had asked him:

    “How long do you think a society like that would last?”

  29. aliceS says:

    Jane Baby I was so stupid not so far ago. This men called me every 10 minutes. When I didn’t respond. He called about 8 times a minute and send me a text message why I’m not replying. Like please pick up your phone I wanna to talk. It was going on for a week, till I discovered block option on my phone. And we exchanged 3 emails or so, and I spoked only once with him over the phone. So, be very cautious about who you are willing to give your number 😉

  30. JaneBaby says:

    Thanks, everyone, again, for your help and opinions!

  31. flyR says:

    yes m4m = gay male

  32. Kms2014 says:

    @flyr…Never read that…will have to check it out.

    What is M4M? Male for male?

  33. Zack says:

    Just noticed H. R. Giger died two days ago.

    Maybe he just stopped moving.

  34. flyR says:

    we’re not far from the reality of Bradbury’s The Veldt .

  35. flyR says:

    ” I asked if we could just email a few times first but he said he needs the number. I want to trust my instincts, but I know I’m not an expert on the etiquette here…”

    Needs the number? That’s a strange choice of words. Does he mean he wants to search your number on google (something you should do) , be able to hear your voice or something sinister.

    I do not think there’s a right or wrong way other than listening to the voice inside you. A few email exchanges will let you know something about the intellect, reaction to questions , how he addresses you. Then I think a call is appropriate. If you have caller ID blocked on your phone you might ask him for his number and call him. Others have mentioned the disposable phone numbers and such.

    The googled SB numbers have produced a number of surprises including “professional services ads” craigslist ad under M4M and similar.

    I think you are being reasonable waiting for a few email exchanges.

  36. Kms2014 says:

    Still love that book, though (:

    Also, don’t people use google voice still? Think it is free?

  37. Kms2014 says:

    Exactly, better in theory and for rinser reality, than US economy…although, was good concept and made more sense back when it was written 😉

  38. Josh says:

    @Kms

    It’s a good one for rinsers.

    However, if you apply the above to the US economy, it will shrink to 20% of its current size. 😉

  39. Josh says:

    @JaneBaby,

    Do interrupt, please…

    It is a real need. It provides instant contact and gratification.

    You will have to invest in a disposable number from Hushed, etc. None of my SBs have my real phone number. I have not had to cancel my number on anyone yet, but who knows when I will need to do so.

  40. Kms2014 says:

    Janebaby…no worries…intellectual discourse on this blog is a bit of stretch, hehe 😉

    I don’t give out any numbers unless I feel a good vibe, and the man behaves like a gentleman…if someone is pushy, wants to text and get your number, before they ask much about you, or your name, then I never bother answering them. It’s just something you get better at figuring out, once you have gotten a little experience (:

  41. Kms2014 says:

    Actually, just take the whole paragraph from book and email to any ‘rinsers’ that I often read about on here.

    “”Money is your means of survival. The verdict you pronounce upon the source of your livelihood is the verdict you pronounce upon your life. If the source is corrupt, you have damned your own existence. Did you get your money by fraud? By pandering to men’s vices or men’s stupidity? By catering to fools, in the hope of getting more than your ability deserves? By lowering your standards? By doing work you despise for purchasers you scorn? If so, then your money will not give you a moment’s or a penny’s worth of joy. Then all the things you buy will become, not a tribute to you, but a reproach; not an achievement, but a reminder of shame. Then you’ll scream that money is evil. Evil, because it would not pinch-hit for your self-respect? Evil, because it would not let you enjoy your depravity? Is this the root of your hatred of money?”

  42. JaneBaby says:

    I hate to interrupt the more intellectual discourse… but I had another question, if anyone didn’t mind: how soon or how often (or how never!) do you give out your cell number? Always erring on the side of caution, I asked if we could just email a few times first but he said he needs the number. I want to trust my instincts, but I know I’m not an expert on the etiquette here…

  43. Kms2014 says:

    I’m not a fan of Sarah Palin…but along the lines of shallow…she is/was a pretty hot woman, in her heyday.

  44. Josh says:

    An xbox player beats deep thinker any day of the week.

  45. Josh says:

    @Kms, don’t worry Richard will confirm within 2 hours that Sarah Palin is a man. 😉

  46. Josh says:

    Kms, “Of course, women have kept you men from nuking us all years ago” is just a personal opinion, yes? 😉

  47. Josh says:

    @Alice

    9 out of 10 dentist prefered naked pictures of beautiful women over Nietzsche’s philosophy. the tenth one hadn’t cum yet by the time poll closed.

  48. Kms2014 says:

    Love stoic…I can be a little dark, though. Of course, women have kept you men from nuking us all years ago, ehehe 😉
    Is ‘Atlas Shrugged’ too cliched now? In regards to living in a welfare state…I always loved these quotes from book…

    “Money is your means of survival,” and “The verdict you pronounce upon the source of your livelihood is the verdict you pronounce upon your life.”

  49. SunShineSD says:

    @KMS

    I read enough Nietzschean volumes to recognize his neo-Stoic bend, but I remain an Epicurean Materialist. I do not believe most human beings, male or female, can stay in Super-Ego state for entire life. While pride/hubris can hold sway during moments of important decision making (for better or for worse), men do need carnal rewards at least from time to time in order to carry on. That’s why like I said, women historically held a key to why men pushed themselves to building civilizations even if they never worked much on pouring over the blueprints or pouring the bricks.

    Being a materialist, I recognize material consequences to human decisions / actions; being an Epicurean, I also see how perspectives and mental state can have an impact on decision making and actions.

  50. aliceS says:

    Josh so which ones work for you and which don’t? Btw you have an email or maybe two? I send to you as usually a bunch of a naked pictures for approval 😉 jk lol

  51. Kms2014 says:

    Well, deep thoughts can equal boring…ehehe. SA is where shallow meets rinse, wash, repeat, fleece…ect., ect., ehehe!

  52. Josh says:

    “How long do you think a society like that would last?”

    That is a question for someone who can handle such deep thoughts. Try flyR or Zack, maybe?

    I like to talk about “classless”, “shallow” stuff, such as, what kind of women work for me and what kind of women don’t, TODAY!, especially on SA. 😉

  53. Kms2014 says:

    Have you read, ‘The Will to Power’, SunshineSD?

  54. Kms2014 says:

    Sometimes, the posts on here remind me of Nietzsche…deep thoughts today 😉

  55. Beach_Girl says:

    Richard~ Thank you 😀

    Kat~ thanks… 😀 I know 😀 one day

  56. SunShineSD says:

    @Josh

    That’s why I do not subscribe to “superior” vs. “inferior” linear scales. What women select for can be entirely random, and their choices nonetheless would produce pronounced effect; e.g. the various complexions that evolved after human ancestors came out of Africa.

    In any case, I was not talking about genetics pe se, but impact on the behavior of men (and culture). What men would work their asses off to build civilization if the women in their society would just get drunk and get high with other men staying behind goofing off everyday? How long do you think a society like that would last? LOL.

  57. Josh says:

    @SunShineSD

    Aha, well of course all those women were being impregnated in stealth mode by the carriers of superior genes while their respective men with not so superior genes were toiling the earth.

    The puzzle is now solved for all eternity, o you the carrier of superior genes.

  58. Josh says:

    @flyR

    Comfy rides on the turnip wagons are keeping these women oblivious to all the wonderful options and opportunities contemplated by the sage SDs here.

    So I in addition to DarkHorseSD’s proposed program in #7 I propose…

    9. Get an educational program going at the local level to get young women clued in while they continue their rides on their respective turnip wagons.

  59. SunShineSD says:

    @flyR

    Obamaphone service from America Movil . . . $20/mo
    School Lunch and Breakfast . . . $3/day
    WIC food packages . . . $20/wk

    Having a baby to get on welfare is like starting a new life by getting on a boat in Miami and sail in reverse direction to Cuba. Gaining minimal baseline government safety net in exchange for giving up all upside potential from capital accumulation. Why would anyone born in the land of free want to do that. LOL.

    I agree with you the dysfunction is largely due to cultural acceptance of failure, and perhaps the mistaken emphasis on conspicuous spending as bling/signs of wealth/success instead of actual accumulation of productive potential and wealth-producing assets.

    @Josh @DarkHorse

    Not me per se, and not genetic superiority per se, but women in a human society have the historical power and responsibility for selecting successes and rejecting failures. Their forceful kicking in the ass was responsible for tearing men of all generations from the contemporary toys and distractions, from today’s tablets all the way back to the days of games on stone tablets. There wouldn’t be a human civilization as we know it if the females ancestors of today’s women had focused on putting out for and procreating with the loser and scumbags of their own generations.

  60. flyR says:

    6. The challenge is often making women aware of the opportunities and the steps to achieve that opportunity. Sometimes it’s just a little step – putting together a program for high school seniors bound for a community college can graduate having completed the work required to qualify and pass the pharmacy tech exam. It’s the difference between getting a $8 / hr job and an $18/hr job to help them get through school.

  61. Josh says:

    8. Amen to that @DarkHorseSD.

  62. DarkHorseSD says:

    7. $135M government program promoting SunshineSD as the better option.

  63. Josh says:

    @SunShineSD

    “6. Let’s not forget the most important: letting the women know that they have better options in life”

    How can any one foreget o you worthy one with superior genes.

    Of course, women shouldn’t keep riding the turnip wagon for too long. It’s not good for them.

    If I may add mmy two cents…

    7. There’s is direct corelation between one’s fall from a turnip wagon and the time one rides the same.

  64. DarkHorseSD says:

    Alice, you have overnight to sew your own short skirt and start a fresh new life in the morning. xoxo

  65. flyR says:

    True there’s not a huge amount of cash but food stamps are cash in the hood.

    You also need to add the cost of their Obama phones, free school breakfasts and lunches, free healthcare, WIC benefits, section 8, subsidized electrical, gas and phone service (if you look at your utility bills you’ll see your surcharges)

    If they live in LA the police will look the other way at no driver’s license or insurance. That’s another couple thousand dollars transferred to other drivers in the form of uninsured motorist coverage, lost wages etc from injuries caused by uninsured drivers. There’s also subsidized public transit etc.

    I’m not saying it’s glamorous living but there are a lot of working people who get by on less.

    A little bit of historical trivia – Section 8 was designed to get poor families into quality housing by empowering them to be able to rent apartments in the open market. Since the statute of limitations has passed I’ll admit that even with the government payment of rent to the landlord the typical single mother welfare recipient was not a good prospective tenant due to their lifestyle. We started out admitting some but the probably 60% were problems. Since one or two bad tenants can make an 100 unit apartment undesirable for the other 98 tenants we had no choice but to be selective .
    We loved the older and handicapped Section 8 tenants.

    Unfortunately the Section 8 program got hijacked by those who wanted to use bundles of section 8 vouchers to demonstrate economic feasibility for some of the most abusive scams local politicians could fabricate.

    We have done a lot of work inside one of the nation’s largest school systems. Much of the problem lies in the acceptance of failure, culture of education and the pop culture of today.

  66. SunShineSD says:

    6. Let’s not forget the most important: letting the women know that they have better options in life 😉

  67. SunShineSD says:

    @Fatty
    “What do we do about those shitty single mothers who live with the scumbag father off the record and use the money to by drugs IPhones and 20″ rims for the car?”

    Good question. Here are what I can think of:

    1. Making the mother realize that she is in a very precarious position, where all savings would be in his name, and he can dump her at any time and walk away with what is essentially their joint savings.

    2. Making the mother realize that she can lose her subsidy if any one of the infractures is discovered: de facto live-in scumbag father, drugs, hiding income and etc.; all of these things she can do on her own dime, but not at taxpayer expense.

    3. make sterilization a condition for receiving substantial welfare, say, over $1000/mo all combined. Welfare should not become an incentive to bring more babies into poverty. One mistake is allowed, we are all human, but not a second one. There should also be more incentives for adopting children and giving up child for adoption, so the young woman can carry on with her own life without the burden while giving the child a better future. She can get the child back after she makes own life better or something.

    4. double child support requirement on the father, and give 50% reduction back to current level if the scumbag father submits to voluntary sterilization.

    5. teaching young women the horrendous reality of living off welfare with children. It’s not something to be made light of. I’m not fond of the welfare system, but IMHO many fellow opponents to it are doing their own cause a tremendous dis-service when they make welfare sound like quality living. We have a young generation now that is already under-motivated and very much used to idling and “getting by”; we certainly do not want more of them to sign up for the “getting by” on welfare. That would destroy their future, and destroy our own future.

  68. KatPaw says:

    @Richard
    Thank you very much!

    @ Beach
    Yes your in need of major fun and nothing to worry about time!!!!

  69. Richard says:

    @Alice – Also VERY nice. We need to import you to the US. :)

    Happy Birthdays Kat and Beach! :))

  70. Beach_Girl says:

    Kat~ Yes, in need of lots of fun for sure 😀

  71. aliceS says:

    Richard :) nice:) airforce you say :)

  72. KatPaw says:

    @ Beach Girl happy birthday to you too!! To bad we couldn’t celebrate together!! You’re in need of a fun night!

  73. Beach_Girl says:

    Kat~ Happy Birthday… mine is Sunday… 😀 have an awesome day xoxo

  74. KatPaw says:

    @josh ohhh stop! Lol No shoes needed for this lady to say meeeeowwwwww puuuuurrrrrr
    Richard is a cutie. Lol

  75. Josh says:

    @Richard

    If an SB does not appreciate you greek god look, then the hell with them. Stay with the Playboy models you are so used to.

    However, next time before you send your picture to any class-questionable ladies please make sure that you send them a pair of Loubs (as in shoes, not as in two tubes of KY jelly OK). That will ensure that they will feign likeness regardless of what they really though about your picture.

  76. KatPaw says:

    @Richard lol Yummy!!! You are a handsome devil!!

    @alice I’ll forward to you!! Heehee

  77. Josh says:

    @SunShineSD

    Your last message was kinda short. I am disappointed. :( Don’t let FB bother you with snide remarks. He appreciates not!

  78. Richard says:

    @Kat – Sent you photos. Feel free to forward to Alice. I don’t think I have her email. I apologize in advance if the reality doesn’t match your image of me. :(

  79. SunShineSD says:

    @Fat @Richard

    Far from it, I’d advocate taking the kids away from the single mothers before giving the entire sum of money directly to them. In reality, neither solution would be practical.

    In principle, every child should not go hungry, and ideally every child should get quality education. There is however a difference between finding solutions that can bring those goals closer to reality vs. going through the motions of goody-two-shoes and making the situation worse. The mother has already proven to be a bad accountant, taking more money from other mothers and fathers in middle class families and giving that to her directly would only result in even more poverty and privation among children and families. As I mentioned, the existing welfare system is already extremely inefficient; pumping more money into it would only make the situation worse. It’s not just the welfare recipients, but also the myriads of industries and bureaucracies gaming the system and making profit off that cash flow while making important necessities of life like housing and medicine less affordable to lower middle class families who are not on welfare.

  80. aliceS says:

    Can I get one too? The picture, I mean

  81. KatPaw says:

    Ohhhhhh and RICHARD you still owe me a pic! lol please feel free to send it to katiemcdstoybox at gmail! 😉

  82. KatPaw says:

    When I was a young single mom I went to DSS for help but didn’t qualify because I made to much $ but after bills were paid there was nothing leg if not – because bills more! Yet I’d see these bitched hair weaves nails done with tons of gold driving nice ass cars it sure PISSED me off!

  83. aliceS says:

    Richard, in La Perla and Louboutins I wouldn’t need a sd and/or I doubt i would drive a broken car

  84. aliceS says:

    I would prefer to be raped by someone more powerful :) like a genuine sd lol :) if I could pick up. With sd there’s always a chance, that he might trow a check on me after all :)

  85. Richard says:

    @Alice – Half naked works. Assuming the other half includes La Perla lingerie and Louboutin heels. I’ll fix your car. :)

  86. aliceS says:

    So if I understood it right I should run around half naked to get what I want :) how many times you think I can make it as rinser?

  87. Josh says:

    @Alice.

    Who says that a sugarless SB does not have much options.

    What is your preference dear? Get raped at a mechanic shop or at the American consulate?

  88. FatB'StardSA says:

    If SunshineSD and Richard would be in charge we would give the money directly to the single mothers who would budget and plan carefully to get the maximum benefit. Sounds good except what do we do about those shitty single mothers who live with the scumbag father off the record and use the money to by drugs IPhones and 20″ rims for the car? Of course this never happens. Poor people only shop at Walmart buying figurines of animals and shitty towels.

  89. FatB'StardSA says:

    People game every system.

  90. KatPaw says:

    Lol interesting convo today!

  91. FatB'StardSA says:

    @SunShineSD

    The “real news” people who believe in evolution (and peer reviewed science) like to state that these women and children are abandoned by the father. Why not go live in one of these areas and see how many are actually living with the father off the record in order to get benefits.

  92. Josh says:

    My bad…it is $5/hour (without tips) when sober, on the ground.

  93. Jj says:

    @Alice: Visa would be no difficulty for you! Follow @Richard’s advise and head toward the nearest US Consulate; guaranteed results!! You’ll be on the plane before sunset!!

  94. Josh says:

    @Richard

    “@Alice – With an ass like that, just put on a short skirt and drive your broken car to the nearest repair shop. I’ll bet you get it fixed VERY cheaply.”

    Alice please be real honest, what would you do without such sage advice? So every time our resident uber logician dispenses advice, you’d better drop everything (including tour panties?) and pay attention to the master.

    The fair market value of such uber logician’s time is $10,000/hr at 10,000 miles above ground in his private jet, $5000/hour on the ground when sober, on the ground.

  95. aliceS says:

    ٩(͡๏̯͡๏)۶ where is Sugardoll?!

  96. aliceS says:

    Richard it’s France lol. I might be raped in a meanwhile by a bunch of uneducated Muslim* not offending the religion, who aren’t used to see half naked females on the streets 😉 guess my car is not worth it. I will fix it by myself tomorrow. Already figured out what I can so 😉

  97. Richard says:

    @SunshineSD – How dare you introduce actual facts! Next you’re going to tell me that climate change is real and accelerating, the earth is more than 6000 years old, or we evolved from apes. :)

  98. Richard says:

    @Alice – With an ass like that, just put on a short skirt and drive your broken car to the nearest repair shop. I’ll bet you get it fixed VERY cheaply. :)

  99. SunShineSD says:

    @FlyR
    The “$40k” is mostly third party pay, not cash or purchase decision made by the recipient vis cash retention. $18-24k ($1500-$2000/mo) of that is probably Section-8 rent subsidy for a 3BR apt/house. It’s much much more than what a normal family making $40k would pay in rent simply because it’s 3rd party pay, so the family has no incentive to economize and find smaller housing that would leave them more cash on hand. The hassles of Section-8 bureaucracy also ensure that landlords would not let units into Section-8 unless he/she has not other choice. That means the overwhelming majority of subsidized housing are in projects or neighborhoods barely one step better than projects, rife with crime, drugs and terrible schools combined with high property tax rates. For example, in Manhattan, it would likely be in East Harlem while charging whatever the rent cap allows for NYC. Analogous to Economist magazine BigMac Index, the SB index for EH is allegedly $1500/mo whereas the MidTown NYU SB index is allegedly $3-5k/mo. So what if the taxpayers are billed $3-5k cap allowed for the city, the real benefit that the beneficiary gets is much lower. The frictional loss due to the bureaucracy, the irresponsible tenants not paying their own bills and the landlord who really don’t want to be in the game is enormous. It’s probably as bad as dealing with SB’s who only show up a few days before rent is due. LOL. None of the people really want to be there.

    Out of the remaining $16-22k, $10-15k is insurance for the family of 3. Once again not a cent actually goes to their pockets.

    What they really get is about $420/mo (or $5k a year) in food stamps for a family of 3, and a couple thousand what-nots from various agencies and non-profits. A total of about 7k after housing and insurance. That’s really not much of a life for a family of 3.

    Some studies also include public school “benefit” as if those schools/day-jails in tough neighborhoods with rampant truancy could compare to the private schools costing $20-30k a year.

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  101. aliceS says:

    This what you can do when you are bored and sugarless and you are a lucky owner of an broken car 😉

  102. aliceS says:

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  103. Josh says:

    @Richard: I would like to apply for your tutelage to learn logic. Are there any openings left or are all spots already taken? 😉

    Please don’t let FB interfere with your logic lessons through his constant harassment. He is just jealous of your tall stature and class AND logic is not his cup of tea.

  104. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Richard

    Asshole

  105. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Richard

    I thought you only dated Playboy models so why would you be meeting up with poor single moms on welfare? Are Playboy models poor single moms?

  106. FatB'StardSA says:

    I wonder where Richard gets his “real news” from. Maybe when he meets all of those single mothers at Walmart (none of whom are SB material because they are all fat, ugly and in love with gaudy trinkets according to him). Typical Liberal asshole, in love with the underclass yet treats them like dirt at the same time.

  107. KatPaw says:

    @flyR, SunShine & gentle(man) soul
    lol thanks!!
    And gentle :-p to being and “old” girl lol I don’t look a day over 26 lol

  108. Richard says:

    Flyr – There’s “research” showing a lot of things. It is quite possible that the cost to the government (including all administration and overhead) is that high, but that unwed mother isn’t getting anywhere near $40k/year in cash or equivalent assistance. She’s getting health care for herself and her children under Medicaid, some welfare assistance (depending on the state), food stamps (SNAP), maybe some housing assistance (which she doesn’t see as a cash benefit), etc.

    The “welfare queen” is a myth and has been for a long time, at least since welfare reform started under Clinton.

    Rather than believe the right wing propaganda, I’d suggest talking to some single mothers who are actually receiving public assistance. A fair number of them on SA, I imagine. The reality is quite scary.

    I, for one, don’t believe any child should go hungry and I think every kid should receive a quality education. No matter what mistakes their parents made.

  109. n says:

    @SunShineSD: Thanks for the additional very detailed talking points for my private time with the SB. 😉

  110. SunShineSD says:

    Uncle Sam’s sugar is the proverbial “giving them just enough ropes to hang themselves.” To be eligible and really “benefit” much from the welfare programs, she has to stay below certain income caps and asset caps; the effective marginal tax rate for a Section-8 recipient getting jobs paying more than $15k/yr is something like 60%! due to 33% income having to go to replacing rent subsidy on top of food stamp reduction and the normal payroll taxes and income taxes that everyone pays. So the disincentive to work legit jobs is extremely strong. The asset cap means even if the person makes a living getting paid at cash jobs under the table, she can not save up more than can be safely stashed under the mattress. That means no down payment for a house or the verifiable income to take out a mortgage when normal lending standards are in place (when lending standards are ridiculously low, buying a house would be just another rope long enough for the victims to hang themselves anyway).

    The ages of 25-45 should be the years of capital accumulation: both in terms of physical asset build-up and human capital in terms of resume building and professional experience. The income and asset caps associated with welfare programs essentially ensure little of that base building can take place.

    For normal people not on welfare, the 45-65 age period should see the take-off of exponential wealth growth after the base-building in the previous 20 years. Whereas for those having spent the previous 20 years under the welfare income and asset caps, the capital base would be non-existent, and she would have to compete in the labor market against 20-something year-olds. It’s a recipe for life-time and generational poverty.

    Going through those numbers made me realize that there is a market demand for rescue operations before the potential victims step onto that trajectory of destruction. There is a need for the relatively well-off and available to volunteer and provide a proper middle-class environment for raising the next generation children and putting the woman back on a viable career track regardless what silly financial mistakes she made earlier in her teens and early 20’s. . . Pentioning off the middle-aged wife (making sure she is still well provided for) and shacking up with hot young SB’s to give her and her children a prosperous future is the morally and socially responsible thing to do! LOL.

  111. flyR says:

    Richard – There’s research showing that the total benefit package for an unwed mother and a couple kids can run $40K+ per year. That’s pretty good for someone whose economic value is about $8 / hour on a good day.

  112. Jj says:

    @ Alice, gorgeous “fart box…. pooper”!!! Indeed. You ever thought of visiting Naples???? Florida, that is!!!

  113. Jj says:

    @Josh: Thigh Gap; smigh gap!!! Check out the “Bikini Bridge”!!!!!

  114. gentle(man)soul says:

    Happy Birthday Kat !! You are a hottie even for an “old ” Girl

    Alice –That is a fine ass –no butts about it !

  115. SunShineSD says:

    Happy Birthday Kat!

    @Alice: cool text graphics.

  116. Richard says:

    Anyone who thinks getting pregnant and living off “Uncle Sam” is a desirable or even feasible plan has been watching too much Faux News. You should do a little investigation of your own. Or, better yet, talk to some single mothers who are struggling to make ends meet. For example, the food stamp program is a huge boon to corporate farmers, the average benefit per person is less than $140 per month and there are lots of hungry kids out there.

    That kind of ignorant statement is akin to saying black people were better off when they were slaves. Otherwise known as what Michelle Bachmann, Rick Santorum, Pat Buchanan and Ann Coulter think.

  117. flyR says:

    Happy Birthday Kat

  118. Josh says:

    @flyR: You carry on as well with your sage words. And don’t let FB question the intrinsic value of your posts. He’s just a fat bastardly simpleton.

  119. KatPaw says:

    @alice
    THANK YOU!!!! Purrrrrrr

    @Josh
    Meow!! Thanks lol I don’t think I look expired at all either! Purrrrr

  120. Josh says:

    @SunShineSD: I am taking diligent notes of everything you have been writing lately. Your words of wisdom will come in handy to impress my SBs during our private few hours a month. Don’t let FB interfere with your service to SDs and SBs alike. 😉

  121. Josh says:

    @Richard

    “Who cares about quality or exclusivity if the price is low enough? Or, in the SA equivalent, you cater to men like Josh. Who is very satisfied, apparently.”

    I know that you secretly love me. A day doesn’t go by without thinking of me, yes? 😉

  122. Josh says:

    @KatPaw: Happy 32nd Birth Day. And you don’t look “expired” to me at all.

    @alice: Nice artwork.

    PS: Now that is a purrrrrfect butt Alice, and I can see even from the back that there is thigh gap.

  123. aliceS says:

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  125. KatPaw says:

    @Doc oooo a birthday massage hmmmmm 😉

  126. Doc says:

    Happy birthday KatPaw. I also might know someone who might be willing to give you a massage.

  127. KatPaw says:

    @Midwest SD
    I’m in KY but I might just be too old for you turning 32 today! Lol of course I know I look much younger then that! Plus truthfully after I hit 30 I became confident in my skin and who I am. Lol

  128. flyR says:

    Sugar Sam – The missing component of the sugar life is that in addition to the welfare there’s a vast cash economy and many are collecting both. Estimated that 40% of the folks in LA are working for cash.

  129. SunShineSD says:

    Life on the modern day equivalent of the slave plantation, with free housing, free food, free medicine and free education all provided at the discretion of the slave master Uncle and his foremen bureaucrats . . . is not as rosy as the the numbers appear to be. The biggest item in that list is section-8 housing; not only is the waiting many years long, but more importantly most landlords in good towns would not rent to the typical section-8 applicants simply due to the latters’ inability to meet job requirement; that means, in most cases the kids would be doomed to terrible school districts even if the mother gets Section-8 housing. Without the big housing piece, the rest are chump changes unless the recipient has significant medical expense every month.

    While I do agree that many of the aid programs are very wasteful and not at all conducive to uplifting the poor from poverty (and the tax cost of running them may well drag many middle class families into poverty), there’s nothing to be jealous about the life supported by the “sugar Uncle Sam.” Uncle’s program is beneficial to slumlords in shady towns, big agro businesses, Mexican billionaire owning American Movil, and the hospital/insurance/banking complex, what the alleged recipients actually get is quite pitiful. Girls getting themselves pregnant to get onto welfare are really ruining their own lives, for life. Uncle Sam’s sugar is worse than Splenda. After the kid turns 18, how is the pretty young thing turned into middle aged fat lady in her 40’s fed on cheap food stamps and idled for nearly two decades due to aid program eligibility caps, supposed to support herself for the next two decades? there’s likely a gap of 20 years before Social Security kicks in at 65.

  130. flyR says:

    “”The 18-30 aged woman is in the prime of her looks and beauty. This is an amazing power, but all of these women hit the wall by 30. “”

    Lots of strawberries are grown where I live and there a great farm stand a couple minutes away. A hundred or so flats of naturally ripened strawberrys picked only hour earlier.

    You can pick the most ripe ones that will be incredibly delicious today , great tomorrow and gone the next day or some a little less succulent that will be very good today, tomorrow and the following three days if properly cared for.

  131. Josh says:

    And the state provides the best sexual situation to its SBs. Drum roll please…

    They don’t need to sleep with the state SD…ever.

    They can sleep around with the xbox players of their liking. Actually, they can even entice the xbox players of their liking with free boarding.

    And since the state SD is celibate, no eyebrows are raised for it having hundreds of thousands of SBs at any given time. 😉

  132. Josh says:

    Stste is the biggest sugar daddy. It pays Brandon’s “practical” amount when you add rent, food stamps, Obamaphone, Medicaid/Obamacare, etc. 😉

    State SD is pretty “standards less.” The SB can be butt ugly, cannonball fat, no teeth, no hair, missing limbs, whatever. Actully, the state SD prefers the most undesirable SBs out there. 😉

  133. Josh says:

    Midwest

    “We are contributing to the problem.”

    Sugar is a very small part of the overall picture. Most women would get a husband or a job. Some would get pregnant at a conjugal visit and have the state as her sugar daddy for the next 18+ years. 😉

  134. flyR says:

    ” During our last date, I mentioned that if I gave her $1000 a month, would that make her life a lot easier. She was ecstatic and said that would free up about 25-30 hours a week, and it would make her life so much less stressful.”

    The southern california version – “I can work two nights and two days a week at In and Out Burger* (while going to school) or spend one day at the beach, one day at the library , one night with my school friends and one night with you. ”

    *In and Out pays substantially more than others.

  135. RSD says:

    I always tell my SBs that they should be cashing in their youth and beauty for something more permanent. But the fleeting nature of time isn’t apparent till later in life.

  136. Midwest sugar daddy says:

    The 18-30 aged woman is in the prime of her looks and beauty. This is an amazing power, but all of these women hit the wall by 30.

    This is not to say that there are not very attractive women 30 and over. There are a ton of them on SA and in real life. I wish I would meet one.
    But society tells women 18-30 to use their beauty to their advantage. I have no problem with this. But there is an expiration date. If women want to jump on and off the carousel with men during this period, go for it. If they think that it is easy to get a prime mate after 30, realize that it gets a lot tougher the older you get.

  137. DarkHorseSD says:

    Also I had a lengthy arrangement with a massage therapist – real and good one – and another of modest length. It’s great to be able to get a good massage as part of the relationship.

  138. DarkHorseSD says:

    There are some people who do offer massage or say they are therapists and may or may not be escorts that may or may not actually perform after you give the money, but I personally haven’t noticed them recently nor see a big increase.

    I don’t like when someone is using an SA profile for a free advertisement of professional services and don’t pursue them.

  139. Midwest sugar daddy says:

    @KatPaw I give amazing massages. Are you in the Midwest lol. Some observations regarding the 20 something crowd from work and SA:

    The work ethic varies, but seems to be lower than it should be to be successful. I see a lot of the entitlement attitude in this group. It varies from person to person. I think that arrangements serve a purpose for the SD and the SB. But lets be real. We are contributing to the problem.

    A cute SB gets paid $1000 to $1500 or more per month after tax for some work and fantasy play with us sugar daddies. They would really need to work a lot harder to earn this amount of extra money in the real world. It is setting a bit of a dangerous precedent.

  140. Josh says:

    Massage therapist = rinsing escort?

  141. KatPaw says:

    Man I could use the service of a good massage no happy ending needed thanks! Lol

  142. RSD says:

    @alicsS, Richard, Josh – I guess the consensus so far is to avoid “massage therapist” SBs

  143. Josh says:

    @RSD

    I believe they are more interested in diversification rather than happy ending clients similar to their massage business.

  144. Richard says:

    @RSD – I haven’t seen that. I’d pay more for a really good massage by a CMT than a mediocre massage with a “happy ending.” I can handle the ending myself. 😛

  145. FatB'StardSA says:

    @RussianSB

    Alan B’Stard. I like it!

  146. aliceS says:

    RSD here massage announce in press mean prostitute is looking for a customer

  147. RSD says:

    I wonder what the SDs think of the proliferation of “massage therapists” on SA. Is “massage therapy” a code word for escort? Are they just looking for regular customers for their “happy ending” massages?

  148. aliceS says:

    Josh lol I’ve gone crazy tonight :) don’t worry, will be back to a good girl soon :)

  149. JaneBaby says:

    @Midwest sugar daddy – haven’t gotten anything from the blog gods yet! I imagine they’re busy…

  150. Josh says:

    @Alice,

    WOW! 😉

  151. KatPaw says:

    Puuuurrrrrr
    alice thank you sweetheart!

  152. aliceS says:

    Evening infidels :) kitty happy birthday :) <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

  153. KatPaw says:

    Lmao

  154. Kms2014 says:

    Hehe 😉

  155. Jeff says:

    Were there any Sugar Mommas there?

    I am a (male) sugar baby and would love to meet a Sugar Momma. The more dominant she is, the better I like it.

  156. Josh says:

    @Kms

    Yes it is indeed kinda boring but some information posted is very interesting to say the least. 😉

  157. Kms2014 says:

    Blah! Look how boring the blog is today now that sausage fest has taken over 😉 Y’all have fun now beating on your chests to see which one of you can yell the loudest, in jungle now 😉 Hehe, fun crazy boys, :-ppp

  158. Josh says:

    @NC Gent

    Very interesting interchange indeed!

  159. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question: What would be the success of a marketing campaign to sell a PUA course to impotent men?

  160. DarkHorseSD says:

    Rinser I am reading as a very generic term for basically sucky unrequited experiences in the discussion here now.

    I’m in NYC today and if you stay home it’s a lot cheaper. :)

  161. FatBastardSA says:

    I lived in Spanish Harlem and Washington Heights. Not everyone there is rich and $1500/month would be a big bonus for many.

  162. NC Gent says:

    Richard — I was in NYC last week for a couple of days. I spent more than $100 a day in cab fares there. It is definitely a whole different cost of living structure.

  163. NC Gent says:

    I agree wholeheartedly Richard.

    Also, DarkhorseSD — following up on what you said yesterday, I haven’t ran across many rinsers, but I am guessing the higher the cost of living, the more likely one is to encounter rinsers — desperate people do desperate things. What things indicate rinser… the two I encountered had two things in common — they wanted to meet right away with very little communicating before (I suppose that takes time and reduces the ROI). They also said wanted to take some time to get to know me before being intimate. The latter is a huge rinser flag.

  164. FatBastardSA says:

    @NCGent

    That is interesting. I would have expected a blank look followed by her asking why you think she is a prostitute.

  165. FatBastardSA says:

    @Richard

    I used to buy ammunition at Walmart. Good prices, bullets don’t jam. When the zombie apocalypse happens I will be prepared.

  166. DarkHorseSD says:

    Great anecdote NCGENT!

  167. DarkHorseSD says:

    If you are a sub as an sd, what are the chances you would notice modest rinsing or complain about it?

  168. DarkHorseSD says:

    The current “generation” with described problems goes well into their late 20s by now. I expect the make up of post-college SBs who would join SA is below the average of those in college that would join, and that probably has a lot to do with it.

  169. Richard says:

    @NC Gent – Will you attract more SBs to join the site if you say the “average allowance is $3k per month” or if you say “about 1 in 10 women actually find an arrangement” and “the average arrangement lasts 4 months and a typical allowance is $1500 per month.”

    Also, as I’m sure you realize, there’s a huge difference between expenses in NC and NYC. $3k/month is only $100 per day, which doesn’t go very far in Manhattan.

  170. Richard says:

    @Fatty – My secret is out. I shop at Walmart every day. I especially like the little porcelain figurines of animals and old ladies, and the towels that clog the lint filter on your dryer the first time you wash them. I’ve also found it a great place to meet potential SBs (I have a fetish for arm fat and muffin tops) and the lighting is so flattering!

    (Exclusivity is important to me. I prefer monogamous relationships.)

  171. NC Gent says:

    So I met someone offline recently, and we have been on four dates now. She has no knowledge of seekingarrangement. During our last date, I mentioned that if I gave her $1000 a month, would that make her life a lot easier. She was ecstatic and said that would free up about 25-30 hours a week, and it would make her life so much less stressful. Then I asked what if I offered you $3000 a month. Without missing a beat, she said I would think you were a moron and-or had some really weird expectations, and I wouldn’t hang out with you any more.

    Someone asked if SA sets up unrealistic expectations, and I definitely think they do.

  172. FatBastardSA says:

    @Richard

    Based on the allowance numbers you have posted before you are pretty much in the Walmart category yourself. Have things changed?

  173. SunshineSD says:

    @flyR

    In my own experience, the college and graduate student SB’s were actually more honest and more reliable than the 20-something but not in school crowd. Just like the labor market issue that you mentioned, I think the real problem is generational difference: the current generation of youngsters have very poor work ethics combined with widespread bad habits compared to the generation or two before them. IMHO, Brandon’s focus on college marketing is an attempt at raising quality and respectability of the SA, and reducing the ratio of pro’s taking advantage of the website.

  174. FatBastardSA says:

    @Richard

    Exclusivity is a great thing to admire when you have the mentality of a teenage girl.

  175. DarkHorseSD says:

    Well, if you can’t get to the SBs who aren’t rinsers, are they relevant?

  176. FatBastardSA says:

    “Some sort of power/exponential/Gaussian/Poisson distribution is just the nature of the beast when large numbers of independent events are taking place (like numerous SD’s and SB’s making selections/decisions).”

    Your distribution is of what exactly? Allowance, length of duration, #orgasms per meeting,etc.? Why are they independent?

    “The exact parameters in these functions can actually evolve over time…”

    Do you really think you are saying anything worth while?

    “SA has no idea how many arrangements occur, how long they last, or any actual allowance amounts. I suspect, just based on my experience, that a very small percentage of women who join SA actually enter into long term arrangements and that the allowances are almost always much less than the targets on women’s profiles.

    Real data would ruin the SA marketing story. But my information is only anecdotal so I could be wrong.”

    I hate to agree with Richard but this is obvious.

  177. Richard says:

    @Flyr – Yes, but you make the average consumer very happy by allowing them to buy crappy consumer products at Walmart for a pittance. Who cares about quality or exclusivity if the price is low enough? Or, in the SA equivalent, you cater to men like Josh. Who is very satisfied, apparently. :)

  178. SunshineSD says:

    @flyR

    “Often” only in the sense that there is a lottery winner every week, and on average 100 people are killed in car accidents in the US every single day. Since each person can only live his/her own life, the chances of any happening in one’s own life is extremely remote.

  179. Josh says:

    I am not unhappy with SA at all. It works beautifully for me. The name of the game is numbers, and Brandon has got them.

    Thank you Brandon. You’re ma man. 😉

  180. flyR says:

    “position oneself in the fat meat part of the curve to achieve success instead of chasing statistical tails ”

    Not discussed is that the statistical tail often leads to Donald Sternling’s pocketbook or that of a Mideastern potentate or derelict son thereof. I was amazed at how many of them were running around London with their Lambos and two digit plates.

    SA with their focused marketing to college women has done for sugar what open borders did to the unskilled labor market. While allowances are down so is quality.

  181. SunshineSD says:

    @gentle

    I have hauled myself out of water, and sun-tanning on the beach for a while now . . . just to check if I’d be happy living without intimacy but focus on business and kids only, as I would be doing in a couple decades when I turn 60. At 40, it’s likely my last chance choosing between settling down with one person for the next few decades vs. continuing on my own brand of sugar trail a couple years at a time + multiple life-long commiments to multiple children and mothers.

  182. Richard says:

    SA has no idea how many arrangements occur, how long they last, or any actual allowance amounts. I suspect, just based on my experience, that a very small percentage of women who join SA actually enter into long term arrangements and that the allowances are almost always much less than the targets on women’s profiles.

    Real data would ruin the SA marketing story. But my information is only anecdotal so I could be wrong.

  183. SunshineSD says:

    @FatBastard,

    Some sort of power/exponential/Gaussian/Poisson distribution is just the nature of the beast when large numbers of independent events are taking place (like numerous SD’s and SB’s making selections/decisions). The exact parameters in these functions can actually evolve over time; parameters derived from fitting past data may not even hold true for the future. The point in understanding such a distribution is to avoid the typical follies of assuming linearity, and position oneself in the fat meat part of the curve to achieve success instead of chasing statistical tails and waste time. It would be interesting if SA provides a real-time graph on distributions from both sides to help users select where they want to be in the market.

  184. gentle(man)soul says:

    @SunshineSD

    “The point of hypothetical numbers is not to prove that the numbers themselves a accurate but to illustrate the likely statistical distribution.”

    Speaking of statistical relevance, how is your harem/family building social experiment going ? Do you have any Pots in the pipeline / Pregnancies on the way ? I see a reality show brewing here . Now that would be worth watching .

  185. FatBastardSA says:

    @Josh

    “Until the term is properly defined and understood how can one say that the percentage of rinsers on SA is less than X%, around X% or more than X%?”

    You know you cannot and you are correct.

    The 3-6 month duration is also a made up number. It fit’s into my own SA experience but that does not mean it is true for everyone.

  186. Richard says:

    In my experience (which is anecdotal) for the women I have corresponded with enough that such behavior might occur, I have encountered about one “rinser” per twenty women. I tend to be very picky about appearance (sue me, I’m shallow) and only contact women that are exceptionally attractive. I suspect that population has a higher percentage of “rinsers” than the average woman on SA.

    FWIW.

  187. Josh says:

    Until the term is properly defined and understood how can one say that the percentage of rinsers on SA is less than X%, around X% or more than X%?

  188. FatBastardSA says:

    @SunshineSD

    “The point of hypothetical numbers is not to prove that the numbers themselves a accurate but to illustrate the likely statistical distribution.”

    You can use made up numbers to justify any statistical distribution, thinking this distribution is correct or “likely” is quite humorous. You can fit whatever power law to what ever imaginary numbers you wish. When we see some real data we can compare which distribution fits the data the best. You can continue impressing the blog now.

  189. SunshineSD says:

    Typo: 0.16% not 0.36% in the top bracket.

  190. SunshineSD says:

    @RSD @KMS

    Yes, SA has the logrithmic scale about right: each price point being roughly 2-3 times the one below it, approximating Transcendental Constant, how people “experience” the significance of numbers. What they need next is a way of getting across the pareto ratio: say, 80% in the $1-3k bracket, 80% of the remaining 20% (16%) in the $3-5k bracket, 80% of the remaining 4% (3.2%) in the $5-10k bracket, 80% of the remaining 0.8% (0.64%) in the $10-20k bracket, then the remaining 0.36% in the $20k+ bracket. That’s probably what SB’s demand side.

    From SD’s supply side perspective, perhaps every percentage above moves down one bracket (i.e. 80% being below $1k, in terms what many SD’s really want to pay) appproximates the reality even better. LOL. The one-bracket statistical mismatch may well explain why some SB’s have to juggle multiple SD’s.

  191. SunshineSD says:

    @FatBastard

    The point of hypothetical numbers is not to prove that the numbers themselves a accurate but to illustrate the likely statistical distribution.

    Why, yes, I am quite successful in banking/finance. Thank you very much. Even for those not particularly successful in bankin/finance or numbers, I’m sure most people have experienced “pareto ratio” in much of their lives if they have achieve any degree of success even if they do not know the phrase itself: 80/20 distribution, 80% time/effort on 20% of subjects. If SD spends 80% of his time/money on 20% of SB’s that he comes into contact with, the statistical average including all SB’s that he has gotten in touch would grossly understate the duration of relationships where 80% of his time has gone. Put it another way, it’s the difference between averaging across instances vs. averaging across time.

  192. KatPaw says:

    @FB
    I have way more important things to use that type of money on vs a single article of clothing. Plus truthfully I have a hard time spending money on myself.. Don’t get me wrong I love when others do.. It’s just when out shopping by myself I always rationalize better ways to use the money.

  193. FatBastardSA says:

    @SunshineSD

    “Based on these hypothetical numbers…” you must be very successful in banking/finance since you choose hypothetical numbers to support whatever hypothesis you want to prove. :-).

  194. FatBastardSA says:

    @SunshineSD

    “The average duration is 3-6 months. That means the decent/good ones last much much longer.”

    No it does not. Making up hypothetical numbers does not support anything in the real world. Until SA publishes survey data and we look at the distribution we don’t know anything. People lie in surveys anyway.

  195. FatBastardSA says:

    @KatPaw

    Interesting. I have spent Herve Leger bandage mini dress money on a Hugo Boss blazer, and my Zegna suit was more money. I keep and wear my more expensive clothing for a really long time (which means that I am hopelessly out of date fashion wise) which helps me justify the cost.

  196. SunshineSD says:

    The average duration is 3-6 months. That means the decent/good ones last much much longer. If one goes through two one – night stands before finding a year – long relationship, the average for the 3 is less than 5 months, but the person has spent 12 of 14 months in a year – long relationship, not mostly in 4-5 month relationships.

    Likewise, rinsers may show up more often than their actual percentages simply because they are on the market more often than real SB’S that go off market when the latter are in a relationship. E.g. If 10% of all candidates in the registered pool are rinsers, real honest SB’S spend 3 months looking for SD between year – long relationship whereas rinsers constantly on the prowl . . . Based on these hypothetical numbers, at any instant check on the pool of available candidates on the market, fully 50% of the seeking would be rinsers! Simply because real honest SB’S are seeking only 1/5 the time if she spends 3 months seeking between year – long relationships.

    IMHO, the real percentage of rinsers among all registered SB accounts is less than 10%.

  197. KatPaw says:

    Lmfao damn I can imagin spending that on a dress truthfully! The most expensive dress that’s in my closet was a gift and I didn’t even see the price till after. ($300) don’t get me wrong I LOVE it! Can’t imagin spending a grand on a dress

  198. DarkHorseSD says:

    So far the trip to the bus terminal is paying off. She looks over 18 and has been good natured.

  199. DarkHorseSD says:

    There was also proposed Zachary Posen Jacquard dress in burgundy $567 from $1890

    Herve Leger bandage mini dress dark grey 607.50 from 1350

  200. DarkHorseSD says:

    Tie-died bandage dress in light blue

    Original $2905
    1094.89 62% off

  201. Russian SB says:

    DarkHorseSD – what color was that dress ?

  202. DarkHorseSD says:

    I thought NSA meant No Stinking Allowance

  203. Kms2014 says:

    I thought it meant non sexual arrangement? Same thing, though 😉

  204. Russian SB says:

    NSA – NO SEX ALLOWED ? What young ladies minds made from ? I am sure it is National Space Agency !

  205. Kms2014 says:

    “RSD says:
    May 13, 2014 at 11:23 am
    I wonder if SA is inadvertently creating a lot of frustration by its monthly allowance structure, which calls <1K minimal, 1-3K practical, 3-5K moderate, 5-10K substantial, and 10+K high. I can see why someone ambitious would shoot for "high", assuming that that's the category where the best or richest or most real SDs would be, and be disappointed with anything less. Plus, who wants to settle for average/moderate in this world? The SBs who tend to do the best are the ones who know their exact needs in dollar figures and can decide if the SD's allowance will cover that or not."

    Very good comment, RSD (:

  206. Russian SB says:

    FatBastard, do you know british tv-series about Alan Bastard ?
    “THE NEW STATESMAN”
    You will love it !

  207. Russian SB says:

    Dominant SB, welcome !!! We hope you will punish all bad boys in blog ! Now, everything going to be under control.

  208. Russian SB says:

    Actually, as a spoiled brat, I will surprise you, Sugars. I am for double standards. What is sugar arrangement for man ? He pays you allowance for you to be available ( better always ready ), and if you have two SDs – you will not be available. Good, if you can manage – but you cannot. Some women even cannot time managing their manicure and dantist in one day. I am even not talking about asking your SD bigger allowance ( with time I always do that, and it works ) because of your needs, but not running arround in search of more and more SD.
    I have problem to find free time for dates in fancy restoraunts with nice people. What I am going to do with 3 SDs ??

  209. Josh says:

    I am not interested in the losing virginity stories. Mostly boring because women are literally preoccupied with the “don’t hurt me” theme.

  210. Josh says:

    In 1959 they had radiobox players. So the women dragged their radiobox player men to the chick flick and both said “awwwww” together.

  211. Russian SB says:

    Oh, for all the virgins in the blog :
    Keep posting about your first experience, we are exited and curious !

  212. Russian SB says:

    Fof all the virgins in the blog :
    Get rid of your virginity and come back to Sugarland.
    Will someone appreciate it, dear Jane ? NO, it attract perverts and scare decent men.
    Who will appreciate it – muslim who marry you. We not looking for that.
    To be rude – you not sertificated for sugar deals.

  213. Russian SB says:

    Josh – she did it , she did it ! They have “awwwwwwww” from male Xboxers audience too !

  214. Russian SB says:

    DarkHorseSD – at least you can be sure that you scamming by girl and not man this time. Herve Leger ( not Ledger) dress is something from a hottie wishlist, something Somaly pirate never heard about. Share your bad experiense with us, don’t listen to blessed fools. Maybe , one day, they shoot a grate comedy from all that stories. I am not picking on you, I have grate bad story too. Not horror story, but funny.

  215. Josh says:

    @Russian

    Of course. How else would they get a collective “awwwwww” from the female audience?

  216. Russian SB says:

    I am watching sugar movie now ” That kind of woman” with Sophia Loren.
    I bet she choose Xbox boy. Same old story.

  217. Eloquence says:

    lol,,,It is a full moon tonight! and I wrote “climb” and she says “mount your goddess.” and Girl under you = G.U.Y…. yeppers…the blog is crack to a drunk person wishing they were being laid. I am not in shame of stating it, its healthy… See, even Horsey agrees! :)

  218. DarkHorseSD says:

    “Reverse the roles, you gave her sugar and she took you to a high level rock concert with backstage passes, but said goodbye and went off to have sex with the drummer. You did not get that which was the foundation of your involvement.”

    I’m taking that deal :)

  219. Eloquence says:

    on this note… I am out… I want a guy that I can slowly climb like Lady Gaga’s song.. “G.U.Y.” and with Kat’s additions… PUUURRRRRRRR

  220. Eloquence says:

    I’m actually for the first time being honest without Homer or Chauncey or any other lyrical assistance at the moment bc I am a few sheets to the wind. my punctuation would make SugarySpice cringe and from a females perspective…well, I am appreciative that you are not degrading my point of view for once from one of the “Goodfellas” or “Goodladies” for once. I agree GREATLY with KMS on MANY subjects “Go KMS with my POMS POMS” :)

    and I laugh till I roll on the floor at Fatti’s comments and he makes me want to rub his belly just to get him to comment more :)

    I tip my hat to you tonight Josh, well done :)

  221. Josh says:

    I guess that you may lick all the salt because the next female may not be as interested in such delicacy.

  222. Eloquence says:

    no one that I am aware of. I have to create a profile first. lol. I was burned by the inundated men on the sight that expected to “romp” on the first date and don’t get me wrong… I LOVE the art of making love and to lick the salt off the nape of a mans neck that I am attracted to like the next female, however, I felt that the caliber of male that I was seeking wanted a “rinser” look and so I removed myself from the site. so does my 2 cents make a dollar or more anymore considering I am no longer on the site?

  223. Josh says:

    And who suggested that you were?

  224. Eloquence says:

    Josh,

    Ok dear… I apologize. Thank you for the informative link.
    No dear, I am FAR from a “rinser”.

  225. Josh says:

    The driving emotion for a man is shame. “You’re not man enough” is the one of the age-old technique to shame a man into doing what he might not want to do otherwise.

  226. Eloquence says:

    Shall I give you a ride on my golf cart Josh? You look like you need a lift :) You know me… I am just “putting” around…

  227. Josh says:

    Here is the link to read up on rinsing and rinsers.

    Google the following:

    Rise of the ‘rinsers’: Meet the women trawling the internet for rich men to fund their extravagant lifestyles By Sadie Whitelocks

  228. Eloquence says:

    and “putter her motorboat mouth” all over him, in his lap, at any chance given…because he gave her something no one else did. Possibly it happens daily.. Im sure it does. But since.. I live in the “neck of the woods” I wouldn’t know. Shooooeeeweeee, its hot in here now. FORE!

  229. Eloquence says:

    Josh,

    Rhetorical question:

    How many men feel confident in their manhood (bc it always eventually somehow goes back to this) just as Alice said “pimp her ride” and in a sense, yeah, who wants to age ungracefully… (all of Hollywood has had their “ride pimped” as far as looks are concerned…) and would give that to a NEW SB or ANY SB at the drop of a dime and be confident enough to know that she would NOT bite the hand that feeds her?

  230. Josh says:

    Style = convoluted, run-on sentences.

  231. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question: How many SB prefer an arrangement that requires putting at some point compared to the one that does not require putting out at any stage of the arrangement?

  232. Eloquence says:

    not yelling @ you dear… I simply forgot to insert the word “seen” itself.

  233. Eloquence says:

    No, I have not SEEN the “rinser” video.

  234. Eloquence says:

    @ Josh,

    No.. I have not the “rinser” video. Where do I find it? Such “style” reserved for the bog? and what “style” of mine are you referring to Josh?

  235. Josh says:

    I am curious. Is this how you communicate in real life or such style is merely reserved for this blog?

  236. Josh says:

    I guess you have not seen the rinser video.

  237. Eloquence says:

    well.. If it is entitlement.. alone that is called a rinser… then I could be a coined one but I am NOT. Im my opinion I think that Spicey, Sweetie, Alice, Ms. Kitty, KMS, Elaine, Jane, where ever Ms. Sugardoll went and many others who have popped in and off the blog are correct in many ways… I simply do not “chime in”. There are so MANY variables associated with EACH man. That if what I think it was gentleman or Richard stated earlier on the blog – is looking for – why no tput those specifics directly in his profile and then all the women who feel that’s adequate and can handle such a relationship within the age constraints should “apply within”.

    I also agree with other comments… Hey, I may be “average” versus a Cali girl with plastic, however, I also desire a man who knows if he doesn’t like all my attributes, or if I don’t, that he can alter accordingly to have a kitty purring in his lap easily with loyalty. Is that so wrong?

  238. Josh says:

    “I’m still lost on the “rinser” topic.”

    Why?

  239. KatPaw says:

    Really it’s not till Thursday but had to do that little scene now.. Lol
    How ever I am still on the search for a good SD lol I know good things are in store!

  240. Eloquence says:

    Happy Birthday Mrs. Kitty!!!!!!!!

  241. KatPaw says:

    Hey all this talks of gifts WHERE is mine? Lol it’s my birthday I deserve gifts!rain gifts down on me baby! ( ok sooo playing had to be the spoilt entitled “rinser” )
    Purrrr kitty feeling back to her self.. Back to reality both feet firmly on ground again!

  242. Eloquence says:

    @ Flyer & @ Gentle

    What if she wants the Oscars, political events, phenomenal love making and a gift to see if there is a hopefully emotional attachment as well? to show a deeper connection possibly? I am still learning…. so I am just giving am “emotional dreamer” point of view.

    since I’m still lost on the “rinser” topic.

  243. flyR says:

    @gentleman ”

    I need some honest opinions on this question. My SB has asked me for something as a gift. This request came a couple of days after we enjoyed a romantic and expensive weekend together which was nice but also pretty expensive.”

    It goes back to the reason she is here and the nature of your agreement. Most are here to augment their income and for a vast array of other reasons. My guess is that no sugar and you can say goodbye, not because you are not a nice guy or that you did not do nice things for her but because it did not help to achieve her goals.

    My perception is that unless there is an agreement to the contrary, nice trips, dinners, etc are not a substitute for sugar but rather a supplement.

    Reverse the roles, you gave her sugar and she took you to a high level rock concert with backstage passes, but said goodbye and went off to have sex with the drummer. You did not get that which was the foundation of your involvement.

    This is not to say that there are not SB’s who would be perfectly happy with concerts , access to high level political events , races Oscar shows etc in lieu of sugar but most came here with for the sugar.

    Don’t feel that your generosity and great lovemaking are not appreciated.

  244. Josh says:

    @DominantSB

    “I may not fare well on this site since according to Josh, a college educated black female should expect to be seeking on this site for 5 years because those are the real world standards.”

    I have no clue what you are talking about. I have never said any such thing and if this is your loose interpretation of anything I might have said then I would like to see what I did write. Thanks

  245. aliceS says:

    Fat Bastard lol I have a hidden nude picture with me being black and running through the bushes with the spear in my hand lol

  246. FatBastardSA says:

    A Nigerian Scam artist located in France that is :-).

  247. FatBastardSA says:

    @aliceS

    The problem is that you log in from France and every SD will see that so they know you are not in Switzerland. You have to state you are in France and looking for an arrangement in Geneva in your profile otherwise every SD reading your profile will think you are a Nigerian scam artist. Some might not believe you are real anyway. Your face picture is better than a lot of the ones I have seen on SA. Get someone to take the best face picture they can and use it in your profile. You look very fit in your main picture, take a picture of your body in a bikini from behind. Send me any nude pictures of yourself you may have.

    A “moderate allowance” might be possible for you in Geneva but it is a lot of money for most other places. A “practical” allowance might be more realistic. This is not an insult (as any real SD will tell you). Unfortunately there might not be enough SD critical mass in France or Switzerland to get you an arrangement no matter what you do.

  248. aliceS says:

    And I try to avoid the face pictures. I look like retarded on each. That won’t help me attract anybody. I’m definitely not photogenic :/

  249. aliceS says:

    Fat bastard thank you 😉 I’m obviously not in Switzerland, I just said so. I don’t have to much luck anywhere. I was from France USA and now Switzerland. Nothing changed. My pictures were modified. I had more of the main picture, was advised to delete. I deleted. Added new ones and still nothing.. i think maybe if they saw I changed country twice,that I’m a whore or what??

  250. FatBastardSA says:

    @aliceS

    Your main profile picture is fantastic, the others less so. You need a better picture of your face. The other two are not useful, add a bikini picture from the rear instead.

    You have a Southern European look to you. I can imagine that this may not be an advantage in Switzerland (or with many Swiss), but I would expect you would be quite successful with many of the foreign nationals who move in and out of the city.

    There are some errors in your profile but the general format and the content is good.

  251. Kms2014 says:

    Or, you can ask, Elaine, for my email…and I will email it to you (:

  252. Kms2014 says:

    What is your email…will email you (:

  253. aliceS says:

    Now your turn :)

  254. JaneBaby says:

    @Midwest sugar daddy – Thank you! I look forward to being able to contact you.
    @gentle(man)soul – Awww. I feel a great loss. If you ever decide to check out the west coast… :)
    @aliceS – my profile is pending now!

  255. Kms2014 says:

    Ah, okay 😉

  256. aliceS says:

    It is hidden 😉

  257. DarkHorseSD says:

    ATM, instead of paying SA, have you tried hanging out at the bus terminal in an orange leisure suit?

    On my way there now.

  258. Kms2014 says:

    Oh okay, nice profile, Alice (: You should add the cool legs pic one you had as an avatar, on profile, too (:

  259. Kms2014 says:

    Thank you, FB…I cannot carry on with my day until I get a nice note from you 😉

  260. Kms2014 says:

    @dominantSB, did you just join SA? Don’t listen to negativity…you will do fine, on SA, no matter what your skin colour, if you market yourself to the right SD (:

  261. FatBastardSA says:

    @Kms2014

    Yes I will. Anyone who thinks you are ” intelligent woman so strong of character” based on your blog posts is not worth listening to.

  262. RSD says:

    aliceS, I press your name and “Profile Not Available” comes up

  263. RSD says:

    I wonder if SA is inadvertently creating a lot of frustration by its monthly allowance structure, which calls <1K minimal, 1-3K practical, 3-5K moderate, 5-10K substantial, and 10+K high. I can see why someone ambitious would shoot for "high", assuming that that's the category where the best or richest or most real SDs would be, and be disappointed with anything less. Plus, who wants to settle for average/moderate in this world? The SBs who tend to do the best are the ones who know their exact needs in dollar figures and can decide if the SD's allowance will cover that or not.

  264. Kms2014 says:

    What is your profile number, Alice?

  265. Kms2014 says:

    “DominantSB says:
    May 12, 2014 at 1:05 pm
    I really do enjoy blogs such a these, I may not fare well on this site since according to Josh, a college educated black female should expect to be seeking on this site for 5 years because those are the real world standards.
    OK then.
    Kms2014 I so enjoy your well written and verbose counters on here. An intelligent woman so strong of character and mind surely must intimidate those you knock off their artificial pedestals. And I’m sure you’ve had your fair share of contenders. You are a walking inspiration mi’lady. *curtsies*”

    Hey, Dominant SB…thank you for that! Very sweet of you…I didn’t see this yesterday, but welcome to the blog (:

    FB, are you going to insult me on this now? Hehe 😉

  266. RSD says:

    @AliceS: “RSD NSA mean no strings attached”. Yeah, to me that’s what NSA means, but there have been SBs reported on the blog who thought NSA means no sex allowed.

    @DarkHorseSD: I agree that some SBs are looking for nice dinners, trips, etc. The SD has to measure up the SB and decide what will make her happy, as the SB seldom knows what exactly she is looking for.

  267. aliceS says:

    No. This one its not me. It’s an avatar I found out via Google, mine are in my profile :) be my guest.

  268. DarkHorseSD says:

    Josh: years ago there was a disconnect between what SA told the SBs the support level meant and what it told the SDs.

    Support was defined for SBs essentially as money in your pocket, ie allowance. For SDs, it was the allowance and spending on trips, meals, gifts, dresses…

    I looked last fall and I think SA has put sd version on the SB side now.

    However, I observe most SBs tend to assume by default that support is purely allowance, often don’t read the site’s definition (if it in fact is now coordinated to the sd side)

    So the disconnect endures.

  269. Kms2014 says:

    Wow, Alice…that avatar is you again?…nice picture! It is very dark but sexy!

  270. FatBastardSA says:

    I think the 3-6 month duration (or less) is simply due to the fact that it becomes too difficult to keep pretending you care about the other person.

    As a SD I have to pretend that I am interested in what my SB thinks or does outside of the arrangement and my SB has to pretend like she enjoys being with me. Most of us are not good actors and it becomes really obvious we don’t care about each other. At that point wanting a new SD/SB is easy.

  271. DarkHorseSD says:

    NYC must be the rinsing capital of the world then…

    …which it could earn for good reason.

    I don’t know about this 3-6 month thing. Most of mine have been longer – far longer. When you pick decent people they last longer.

    And there are the ones who reach out a couple years later and say let’s get together. That counts for something too.

    The one I just spent 15 hours overnight with I’ve known since January, with a gap not seeing, and looks like she’ll stick around.

    Well, the fact is most of the guys and girls are not like me and it isn’t going to last very long for them.

  272. aliceS says:

    RSD NSA mean no strings attached :) by the way I’m free and no one want me :/ I don’t think I look worse than this avatar :(((

  273. DarkHorseSD says:

    RSD wrote: “Watching sex, lies, and rinsing guys. The girls claim it is NSA (i.e. no sex allowed), but I have my doubts. In my own experience, lots of SBs claim they don’t have sex with specific individuals (their husbands, their fiances, their live-in boyfriends, their non-live-in boyfriends, their other or previous sugar daddies, etc), yet somehow they have sex with me. So either I am absolutely irresistible, these other guys have no desire for sex, or they are lying. I typically assume the latter.”

    :)

  274. DarkHorseSD says:

    To expand on RSD RE MidwestsD, some do value the fine dining, trips, etal. Spend your money where she values it. If the two of you don’t match up well in valuing where the money is spent, find another who does.

  275. DarkHorseSD says:

    Elo: rinsing involves fraud, deception…it’s a con game. Yes it is a problem. True sugar is expected to be upfront, mutual and delivered as expected. Even if not, rinsing is beyond the pale.

  276. NC Gent says:

    I have met a couple of rinsers and they didn’t inflict much monetary damage. The two I met were younger and quite narcissistic. I am guessing they thought that I should consider myself blessed and fortunate that they bothered showing up :) I would say the rinsers are a small percentage of the SB population.

  277. Eloquence says:

    major spelling errors – Websters new edition sidekick.. gees.. however, you understand the words im trying to convey, none the less.

  278. Eloquence says:

    @ Josh

    My points.. Run on sentences, here we come (bc I am in a rush)

    Why mention the beautiful attire or expensive shoes another man bought the SB’s? The previous daddy or daddies obviously appreciated the time allotted helping them weave “socks” into a POT-holder as well as the woman appreciated not getting “burned”.

    I was only referring to the mirror comment due to the super imposed notion that the majority of “male” initiated coments have continued to impress upon the Psyche of readers that a decent SB/SD relationship/arrangement is only allotted a 3-6 month window time frame at best. Sooooo – why get upset if the SB choses to utilize your advice and move on after 3-6 months? Arent you training some the way in which you would like by auto suggestion alone?

    Furthermore, the cost of meals are written off as a business expense along with the hotels accomodation’s & travel arrangements and these expenses should not be held over the SB’s head as part of her “allowance” or budgeting factor, imho.

  279. RSD says:

    Watching sex, lies, and rinsing guys. The girls claim it is NSA (i.e. no sex allowed), but I have my doubts. In my own experience, lots of SBs claim they don’t have sex with specific individuals (their husbands, their fiances, their live-in boyfriends, their non-live-in boyfriends, their other or previous sugar daddies, etc), yet somehow they have sex with me. So either I am absolutely irresistible, these other guys have no desire for sex, or they are lying. I typically assume the latter.

  280. gentle(man)soul says:

    Midwest sugar daddy says:

    I need some honest opinions on this question. My SB has asked me for something as a gift. This request came a couple of days after we enjoyed a romantic and expensive weekend together which was nice but also pretty expensive.
    Josh is correct . Girls have this amazing ability to discount support (allowance ) as unexciting and not indicative of their “specialness ” to their Daddy . I see this in my employees (all women) who pocket their year end bonus but bitch because they haven’y gotten their raise yet . Perhaps it’s human nature . Perhaps your SB has been reading too many blogs by entitled rinsers who advised readers to work their Daddies .

    Since you enjoyed your time with her I would not dump her ,but draw the line in the sand . Reinforce your deal( Allowance,trip ,whatever =companionship/sex whatever .) Gifts are at your discretion and generosity but not to be assumed her birthright because she gave up the pootie .

    FlyR, Gentle Soul: I am considering entering local politics as an exploration of something more. Why not? I am inclined to send pics of myself “in the open” even cross borders. Is that a mistake?

    Depends on what those pictures contain . Someone will always use any opportunity to slam an opponent . Sugar dating is controversial to say the least . Good luck with that .

    @Jane

    I’m East Coast darn it !

  281. Midwest sugar daddy says:

    @Janebaby I travel to the west coast occasionally. SD, please get my email to Janebaby. I would love to talk with her. And add Alice while you are at it 😉

  282. Midwest sugar daddy says:

    @RSD @Josh @Richard and others Thanks for the opinions and viewpoints. My arrangement has been pretty good so far. Maybe I am just being a little too hyperaware of the rinsers.

    I am sticking with the money in the pocket theme. I am also acutely aware that people in general do not often appreciate what you do for them. Men and women. I am going to keep the communication lines open and my rinser radar on high alert.

    @Alice I agree with Richard! Too bad you are not in the states. Your previous avatar was good and this one is even better. Hope you have a good SD to spoil you.

  283. Richard says:

    @Alice – If you look like your avatar photo you can be my SB any time any place! 😛

  284. aliceS says:

    Jane Baby 😉 keep us updated if you don’t mind. I wish you a great fun, cause mine first time was awful lol 😉

  285. JaneBaby says:

    @gentle(man)soul, Beach_Girl, Richard

    Sorry for the delayed response, guys, and thanks again for chatting with me on the matter. As for why I’m still a virgin at this age, before this, I was tunnel-vision focused on other things in my life: mostly school and finding a job. When I sat back recently, I realized that a relationship where I could take care of someone else and sex were two things greatly missing in my life — however, I have no interest at the moment in settling down or there being a potential of someone seeing it that way.

    Richard, I’d say that I’m good looking but not gorgeous. I do know how to take care of myself, dress well, and play to my assets.

    Gentle(man), I’m on the West Coast!

  286. RSD says:

    @ Midwest sugar daddy, the way I see it, if you give an allowance, gifts are not part of the deal. The way I put it to SBs is, “I am, by nature, a cash-daddy not a gift-daddy. I give you x dollars per month so you can buy yourself whatever you want.” If you give in, there will be no end to the requests for gifts, sob stories for more money, etc. But also, what Josh said is true, the money you spend on the “date” is money you spend, not money the SB gets. It’s better to keep dating expenses reasonable and focus on increased allowances. I understand the desire to live out our luxurious fantasies with SBs, but from the SB’s perspective, expensive meals and hotels and shows do not pay the bills.

  287. RSD says:

    I don’t think rinsers are the majority of SBs on this site, maybe 10%. It’s not easy being a rinser, but I’ve met a couple. One didn’t put out but kept trying to get me to buy her absurdly expensive shoes, etc. The other rinsed me a bit, but did put out when I asked, but kept rinsing away. Her closet was full of absurdly expen$$$ive designer items from previously rinsed men, and she did rinse me good. But knowing about the phenomenon will definitely make me more rinser-immune in the future. Thank you blog!!

  288. Zack says:

    …we on SA to make the finest…

    Josh: That is why you are an epic “fail” here. The blog self-selects higher than your “norm”

    www youtube.com/watch?v=iGmb25WETes

    www youtube.com/watch?v=81QluTS-mWc

    two-fer elq :)

  289. Richard says:

    Strange, I haven’t noticed even a hint that any of the women on the blog are “rinsers.” They all seem quite honest and appreciative and are looking for that one good arrangement. Did I miss something?

    Many people, in the sugar world and elsewhere, are dishonest and will try to get something for nothing. If you’re the least bit trusting you will occasionally get burned. Happens with customers, friends, acquaintances, girlfriends, spouses, and even strangers on occasion (eBay, etc). Personally, I don’t allow the bad behavior of a small minority to make me bitter nor do I assume that everyone is “out to get me.”

    I’ve been taken advantage of a couple of times by women I met on SA. Not a lot of money, nor did I allow it to go on for long. I regret the wasted time more than anything, I can always make more money. I don’t let it change my generally positive outlook on life and on people. YMMV.

  290. Josh says:

    That should work Alice. :)

  291. Josh says:

    @Eloquence

    “If so many men are bashing women as “rinsers” they why not look in the mirror? (bold for me to say with no formal back up of paragraph to justify the comment) but do I need to?”

    This exactly what I was referring to earlier. When a woman comes crying that she has been wronged, no one on the blog tells her to go in the mirror or “you asked for it.”

    But when a man complains he is told “you must’ve asked for it.”

    The group of men who are scamming women are not blogging here nor the womn who are rinsing men are active on the blog.

    If a man defends the actions of a scamming man then I would consider him a closet scammer who has not had the opportunity to scam yet.

    If a woman defends a rinsing woman then I woukd consider her rinser wanna be who has not figured out how to swindle men yet.

    And the above “men” and “women” references are rhetorical and don’t point to any man or woman on the blog.

  292. aliceS says:

    Elaine maybe it should be remixed to the sa site needs like
    Uhm
    I noticed you at SA
    I found your profile very attractive
    Uhm..
    would you do the arrangement with me?

  293. Eloquence says:

    wow… 1975, eh? Never read the lyrics until today and in the memories they cry more, more, more… And it goes both ways with men & women. If so many men are bashing women as “rinsers” they why not look in the mirror? (bold for me to say with no formal back up of paragraph to justify the comment) but do I need to?

    You typically see the good or bad in others that you see in yourself, have been, think about, or can be… And who said its bad??? Are we on SA to make the finest potholder of socks known to man? or to find what we are missing elsewhere…regardless if its rinsed, washed, dirty or dry…isn’t beauty in the eye of the beholder? And do you go to a “shop class” in high school with the professor saying “Here is your finished project that I “would of made you make” instead I have decided for you to disassemble it as a major grade.” Nope-ers.. The professor hands you a bunch of miscombobulated looking pieces that to “you” have no rhyme or reason however, through the semesters and when you graduate, those pieces made your masterpiece. (SUPER GRIN!) :)

  294. Zack says:

    www youtube.com/watch?v=Vz89H0DfVTk

    [grin]

  295. aliceS says:

    Or maybe this :) can’t add YouTube link, cause it’s forbidden song in France lol
    Uhm
    I’ve noticed you around
    I find you very attractive
    I’ve noticed you around
    Uhm
    I find you very attractive
    I find you very attractive
    Uhm
    Would you go to bed with me?

  296. aliceS says:

    Should I use the French phrases while replying to the sugar daddy? For example
    Voulez-vous coucher avec moi, ce soir? :)

  297. aliceS says:

    Kms2014 I was never offended by dark horse, at least, nothing that I am aware of, as well as by Elaine, which I like and respect very much. It’s just sometimes some people get along and some don’t. But I can’t offend someone just because he doesn’t like same person as I do. Guess it’s pretty legit and similar to the real friendship, we all have friends who hate each other, but like us lol.

  298. Josh says:

    I should have included in the previous comment that if the quantity of blatent rinsers is X then the quantity of rinsers wanna be is many times X. They just haven’t figured out how to rinse without putting out.

    WYP is a “formalized” congregation of amateur rinsers.

  299. Josh says:

    @FatBastardSA

    “DH’s stories are beneficial because other SA SD’s can see that they are not alone”

    I was not aware of the rinser phenomenon until I ran into that video I posted. So I focused more on “escort like” behavior.

    Actually escorts at least put out. Rinsers have no intention of putting out to start off with. SA has plenty of rinsers with a variety of flavors.

    Sharing of SB infractions causes frequent uproar because rinsers don’t want to be called out.

  300. Josh says:

    @Midwest,

    There is never any appreciation for what SD “spends.”

    What matters is what ends up in their pocket. So focus on putting more in her pocket if the current arrangement has any future.

    Or keep the above in mind for future arrangements.

    Best of sugar success. 😉

  301. FatBastardSA says:

    @Zack

    I never have any idea what you are talking about and I don’t like your choice of youtube videos. What are we going to talk about?

  302. Zack says:

    DH: If you are willing to contact me, please do. Why not?

    FlyR, Gentle Soul: I am considering entering local politics as an exploration of something more. Why not? I am inclined to send pics of myself “in the open” even cross borders. Is that a mistake? I’m not hard to find, if the powers that be desire. (Who is?) Yeah, honest to a fault. Should I stop? I can’t control what is known about me…I can make it true. Advice?

    Teq, FB…might as well (better) talk to me than about me?

    Josh: Please reap what you sew.

    Russian SB: Can I immigrate?

    …”I’m surprised at all bitterness here on both sides. I have been involved as an SD for more than a decade. There’s an abundance of attractive, nice, intelligent, healthy, incredibly sensual SB’s with very reasonable expectations.”….here’s to hope. Cheers!

    www youtube.com/watch?v=5zey8567bcg

    Alice…HOT gravitar!

    Josh: Hand sanitizer is typically $1. Does that fit your calculus? [apologies for feeding the troll]

    From Richard: wisdom: “Some bad, although I’ve been able to make those very short and not really memorable”

    flyr, dh…the blog isn’t salvageable yet. acrimony= 7/10.

    Is this masochistic?…I think I should try dating a lawyer…

    @ all: oral on a woman seems, to me, a lot more…”flexible” than on a guy. it’s not an even trade. That’s a good thing, imo.

    …” Because I’ve launched a major new marketing push” like begets like. You know this. You will come back to that after your fury…

    @KMS…DH is a goodfella. Chill? (bleh, I used to hate that expression.) We all have “rough times” 😛

    @MWsd..scamdar is correct. Don’t drink the kool-aid yet. WAAAY too soon? Go long term?

    FBSD: can we talk yet?

  303. DarkHorseSD says:

    Midwest you are doing the right thing – if anything maybe end the arrangement and therefore don’t accrue and pay any more allowance.

    Assuming its a bad one…how bad is it exactly???

  304. Midwest sugar daddy says:

    I need some honest opinions on this question. My SB has asked me for something as a gift. This request came a couple of days after we enjoyed a romantic and expensive weekend together which was nice but also pretty expensive.

    She seemed appreciative during the weekend but I honestly thought that she would have been a little more appreciative. I am not talking sex either. The sex was good. Weekend was mostly good considering this was new for both of us.

    My rinser radar is going off and I am getting the vibe that she is turning and burning this arrangement. I am going to shut this request down. She will get her agreed upon arrangement money. She can use it for this request if she wishes.

    It shows a lack of respect for the fact that I just spent a ton of money on a weekend for us. I am 40. She is 24. Appreciate the response and advice.

  305. FatBastardSA says:

    @Kms2014

    “Why don’t people stay on topic, or stop with all the negative whining posts, then, perhaps, some new bloggers, who might want to post, or ask questions…but are scared of the negative vibes, might then do so. No one wants to listen to a whining man, or endless silly juvenile rhetorical questions that have nothing to do with SA.”

    We don’t need you to become the blog neighborhood watch, we already have a moderator.

    It’s funny when a group of blog posters (you know who you are) bitch and moan about how they don’t post anymore because of the bad attitude of the blog, etc. No one gives a shit if you don’t post anymore, the blog will be fine without you.

    DarkHorseSD does whine a bit. You bought a membership for SA not YPN (Young Pussy Nirvana), deal with it like the rest of us try to. DH’s stories are beneficial because other SA SD’s can see that they are not alone and it will actually take a lot of work if they want to keep using the SA site.

  306. Kms2014 says:

    Hehe, that is comical 😉 Really, Alice, you think DH is nice guy? He was extremely rude to, Elaine, who happens to be one of the few on here with sound advice worth listening to. But,really, if you think he is a ‘cool’ and ‘insightful’ guy, than you have a right to your opinion 😉

  307. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    Because we are straight shooters, not gamers, don’t particularly like the games women play AND have the unusual audacity to articulate our thoughts candidly? 😉

  308. aliceS says:

    Good night Ice Daddy :)

  309. aliceS says:

    Hi peach 😉 Kms2014 I like dark horse, and Josh as well. Don’t know why so many females in here have so many issues with them lol. Try to be flexible and see things from their point of view.
    Anyway have a great nice, I’m going to sleep VERY VERY VERY HAPPY AND EXCITED AND WOOHOO big day await this SB lol.
    Katpaw bad kitty it’s a good kitty,aand you can’t satisfy all. Be selfish sometimes, even if others will see you as a bad kitty lol

  310. Kms2014 says:

    Hi Peach (:

  311. Peach says:

    So glad it’s summer! Just wanted to say hi to everyone!

  312. Kms2014 says:

    Sure, Josh…there you go again, when you know very well that ‘exaggerations’ of mine, are your exaggeration, actually..and you know better, too 😉

    I shouldn’t have called DH a name, yes, but is really have ignored most of his posts, in the past, bc 90% are negative. Haven’t seen the humorous ones, but will take your word for it, nonetheless.

  313. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    “I mean, Darkhorse is a very negative wanker that only contribution to the blog, is that of a ‘whining’ one. Would you like someone/runners? to step in and protect you from such an outrageous claim?”

    It think that you are a pretty good writer, exaggerating kind nonetheless. LOL!

    I don’t think that there is a need for direct personal attacks. Let’s keep it at the argument level please? :)

    I do like DarkHorseSD’s sense of humor. And I don’t think that he has been disrespectful to anyone on the blog.

  314. Kms2014 says:

    Yes, Josh…and you never insinuated anything of anyone else, or accused anyone of falsehoods? Yes?….Please.

    Why don’t people stay on topic, or stop with all the negative whining posts, then, perhaps, some new bloggers, who might want to post, or ask questions…but are scared of the negative vibes, might then do so. No one wants to listen to a whining man, or endless silly juvenile rhetorical questions that have nothing to do with SA.

  315. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    “KMS your posts referring to what I am writing and doing are so outrageously false I will thank you to never refer to me again.”

    This seems to be the way some of the bloggers roll here. You write one thing. They will come up with an outlandishly negative interpretation and then others will accept that outlandish interpretation as if thatvs what the original commentor posted.

    Case in point. Kms came up with the latex glove from somewhere in her anatomy. Then Richard came up with his followzup questions.

    This EXACT thing has happened many times to me in the past.

  316. Kms2014 says:

    Then, leave…no one appreciates your negativity.

  317. DarkHorseSD says:

    FlyR, and when it says moderate?

    The fact is there are tons of women that suck you into conversations telling you everything you want to hear and them after a while they go bat shit crazy with their “type of arrangement”.

    Some of them will get you to a meeting and rinse you for a meal for starters. Others do it beforehand in the communications. Others wait until a period of time into the relationship, ie. before sex. Then there are the ones that launch months into the arrangement.

    I’m not going to pretend these things don’t happen and it’s all smiles using SA, or living life, or otherwise.

    Why am I posting about bad experiences? Because I’ve launched a major new marketing push on SA and that is what happens! So I write about some of what actually goes on…instead of the fantasy writers.

    And what happens when you search? You come across tons of bad experiences until you find a good one, on average.

  318. Kms2014 says:

    I mean, Darkhorse is a very negative wanker that only contribution to the blog, is that of a ‘whining’ one. Would you like someone/runners? to step in and protect you from such an outrageous claim?

  319. Kms2014 says:

    Yes, because you are a bit of a negative wanker.i have ignored in in past for that reason.

  320. DarkHorseSD says:

    Alice, I didn’t even give her “oral” …..

    It was all text (message) lOl

  321. flyr says:

    @ Dark H “There is no way to filter someone who starts asking for big numbers well into a conversation when they are negotiable or moderate on profile.”

    If it says negotiable I’ll ask them to confirm that they are comfortable with my range before proceeding with meeting or even lengthy conversations. I do not see any real purpose in “hard” negotiations to bring down the allowance. I’ll share with them why I think I am a good choice and leave it at that. Those negotiated into a “deal” are usually unhappy.

  322. DarkHorseSD says:

    KMS your posts referring to what I am writing and doing are so outrageously false I will thank you to never refer to me again.

    Would the blog runners please request of her to do so?

    I absolutely never refer to her for good and sufficient reason.

  323. aliceS says:

    I hate when guy try to do an oral on me. Gosh it’s a turn off immediately

  324. aliceS says:

    Dark Horse I understood from your comment that you actually bought it for her lol
    Kms2014 it was fine, haven’t had too much time to do all I want but still it was fine :)

  325. Kms2014 says:

    @soulman..at least you have no problem with oral, on your SB like some men do on here….

  326. Kms2014 says:

    Well said, Sir Richard (: Why shouldn’t one look at SB dating as similar to real life? I want something ‘real’, with a SD, so it is no different to me, however some say:

    “I am monogamous with my SB when I ask her for the same respect . Tit for Tat so to speak . I have had more than one SB at a time on occasion ,and have accepted our relationships as a working one as opposed to a real SD/SB one .The girls involved were -like you said on occasion -working several Daddies at one time . More fun and money -no ? True love and respect with multiples ? Not likely . So don’t criticize the guys for doing the same thing that you are .Just agree to be cut of the same cloth as we are .”

    So, he is monogamous, but has more than one SB at a time, on occasion, while accepting it as a ‘working one’ as opposed to a real SD/SB one….how many contradictions was that, in just one paragraph?

    At least I am honest with myself in what I do, and always want a real connection, no matter what, even if I am dating two men at once(which, I haven’t even done much, but they knew about it, so is not a game). It is never fake or a ‘working one’. Just like real dating…don’t some men and women date more than one person at a time, in order to figure out who/what they want? Does not mean they are being intimate with both parties.

  327. gentle(man)soul says:

    Kms2014

    So…am just curious….If a sugar baby wants to ‘take her time’ and feel comfortable with you, before sexual intercourse, then that is a ‘no go’, for you, however, the SB who will ‘put out’ right away, before you start allowance is the more desirable scenario for you?

    Yes ! I don’t have time to cultivate a long term relationship. I have a small window of opportunity so have to make the most of it . And once they meet me they are usually ready to go anyway LOL .

    Do you think the average college co-ed who isn’t a SB has had more sexual partners than a SB that is of the same age? Do you go down on women who are not SB? Just curious…

    They are all the same sexually . And I go down on any woman I am interested in . Like my brother opined above, oral is the way to orgasm . I too like my Baby to get her first O before I consider my needs .

    And yes, I was called ‘less than desirable’ for myamation of, perhaps, enjoying dating more than one man at once….

    I just prefer a girl who is monogamous for my SB as I am investing emotional energy in her . I am happy to go to bed with any attractive girl who sees other guys but I will not be emotionally into her . In my mind she is a semi pro if not a pro .

  328. Richard says:

    I have had a mixture of experiences since joining SA. Some bad, although I’ve been able to make those very short and not really memorable. Some mediocre (both the women and the sex). Some exceptional…and those are the ones that I’ve invested my time and money into, and the relationships that have lasted.

    Kind of like “real” life. :)

    P.S. If you think using a latex-clad hand to get your women off really rocks her boat, then obviously you enjoy it when she gives you a hand job while wearing a condom, and really don’t care for fellatio. Right? 😉

  329. Kms2014 says:

    But DH is specifically focusing on bad SB, who are not in his allowance range, anyways? Why not forget those, then search for the ones that do match, and don’t just focus on themselves. Or, is it more ‘fun’ to play defeatist, pessimistic, cynical? Anyone ever heard of ‘screening’ or, are you only looking at the ‘hottest’ pictures of bimbos and gold-diggers? Why not screen for someone who is in college and has goals, and aspirations written on their profile, or what they offer YOU. There are profiles like this. Stop looking at only the pictures, and you might find one.

  330. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    “If we don’t write about the bad experiences as warnings and examples, the blog is a worthless lala land where rinsers fleece the unsuspecting.”

    Very true. Interestingly enough, some (most?) of the blog SB choose to insist that the bad experiences may just be few and far between, and are avoidable by careful screening.

  331. DarkHorseSD says:

    I looked it up. Miss8000 of ATL has Moderate on her profile. And I mention specific allowance numbers in my profile, none of which are 8000.

    She claims she hasn’t met anyone in the few months to a year she’s “on and off.” (Classic bad sign) Also her profile is clearly over 2 years old. (Inaccuracy in history is a classic bad sign)

  332. Kms2014 says:

    @darkhorse, I believe Alice misunderstood that your SB soliciting for a new frock was actually delivered. At least she sent you a ‘sale’ item. This woman apparently is a bargain shopper/hunter 😉 does that carry over into SD shopping, too…hehehe

  333. DarkHorseSD says:

    Bought what “shit”?

  334. Kms2014 says:

    @Josh, hey asking about ‘gloving’ or even ‘double gloving’…what is the harm in that? Reminds me of a doctor visit…If a GP or OBGYN can do it, then why not you? Innocent enough…could even be incorporated into some good ol’ role play…Excuse me SB, while ‘Dr. Josh tantric’ puts on his…’snap snap’ wait, just one more glove and done, ehehe! And yes, that was TMI right there 😉

  335. DarkHorseSD says:

    Lets just say I’d much rather give an SB oral than ship her a $2150 Herve Ledger dress (discounted to $1000 plus $25 overnight shipping) to wear when we first meet. Lół

  336. Josh says:

    @Kms

    I am “glad” that you are getting into the nitty gritty. I do wash hands before touching her down and after the handiwork and before continuing on with the rest. 😉

    I think that is waaaaay TMI. Sorry other bloggers, and if you are curious still then you know what to do. 😉

  337. DarkHorseSD says:

    FlyR – unfortunately your advice has minimal real world application. There is no way to filter someone who starts asking for big numbers well into a conversation when they are negotiable or moderate on profile.

    If we don’t write about the bad experiences as warnings and examples, the blog is a worthless lala land where rinsers fleece the unsuspecting.

  338. Kms2014 says:

    @Alice, how was Poland?

  339. Kms2014 says:

    @Josh, do you take a shower and wash your hands with a tub of GOJO afterwards, or just wear gloves while giving these tantric massages? Ehehehe 😉

  340. Josh says:

    No I don’t go down on any one unless I feel comfortable to go bb, which has been a very few women in my life.

    SB taking lead DOES NOT constitute putting out before the allowance is in place.

    For me SB taking lead means that she has naturally made up her mind within the first 30 seconds of meeting me as to which way she is going and is comfortable with confidently taking it to the next step.

    And with all due respect to those who see it as one way street I do draw pleasure in giving my SBs massages and in playing with them to give them multiple orgasms before intercourse.

    As a matter of fact, every subsequent time my SBs meet me they want (demand?) free massages telling me that I give great massage. I also know a bit of tantra so that helps with the “handiwork”. 😉

  341. aliceS says:

    Uhm… hi all. I tried to read all, but damn, it’s just so much. Btw Dark Horse I can’t believe you really bought that shit for her! I mean, seriously? ??? Why???? Lol

  342. DominantSB says:

    I really do enjoy blogs such a these, I may not fare well on this site since according to Josh, a college educated black female should expect to be seeking on this site for 5 years because those are the real world standards.
    OK then.
    Kms2014 I so enjoy your well written and verbose counters on here. An intelligent woman so strong of character and mind surely must intimidate those you knock off their artificial pedestals. And I’m sure you’ve had your fair share of contenders. You are a walking inspiration mi’lady. *curtsies*

  343. Kms2014 says:

    Oh, FB, such the insightful deep thinker, as usual.

  344. FatBastardSA says:

    There instead of their. I have shamed myself on the blog :-(.

  345. FatBastardSA says:

    Flyr and Richard are a bunch of wankers who write shite on the blog. There input is about as valuable a Zack’s.

    “Thank you again, for allowing me to count my blessings today, in that this blog is not a good representation of the actual sugar dating world for everyone involved.”

    We all know that your posts have nothing to do with SA reality Kms2014, but I am happy that you have finally come to your senses. Have a nice day :-).

  346. FatBastardSA says:

    “Yes, some women can achieve orgasm from intercourse. But not as many and not as often as most men think. And it takes skill on the part of the man, very few women can orgasm from you pounding away at her for the three minutes it takes you to come. :)”

    Big difference between not knowing do do something and not wanting to do it. Is this SA or Match.com?

    P.S. Thanks for the sex education class Dr. Ruth.

  347. Kms2014 says:

    @Richard…I bet your bottom dollar that they don’t even bring their poor SB a BOB or allow them to use one, for fear of seeing any sort of pleasure on their faces, due to ‘their time’ payed.

  348. Kms2014 says:

    Besides the often insightful and respectful input of flyR and Richard…and a couple others, I must say that this blog has done something of a favour to me. It has made me appreciate my past and present SD(s), who are NOTHING like some of the ‘gentlemen’, or their truly ‘messed’ up minds, in regards to their view on both women and arrangements. Thank you again, for allowing me to count my blessings today, in that this blog is not a good representation of the actual sugar dating world for everyone involved.

  349. flyr says:

    Richard pssst you’re sharing the knowledge of the true “secret handshake”

    OK I see the point, if you have to tell them they are not likely to understand the information.

  350. KatPaw says:

    @Richard lmao ohh I needed that today!!

  351. Richard says:

    Any man who is not enthusiastic and at least somewhat skilled at oral should realize you’ve possibly eliminated any chance of your partner having an orgasm. If you’re okay with that, fine, perhaps your money will compensate for your selfishness. But then don’t claim that “women don’t enjoy sex.”

    How much would you enjoy sex if your SB brought you to a state of extreme sexual arousal and then stopped as soon as she came but before you did?

    Yes, some women can achieve orgasm from intercourse. But not as many and not as often as most men think. And it takes skill on the part of the man, very few women can orgasm from you pounding away at her for the three minutes it takes you to come. :)

  352. Kms2014 says:

    @flyr…I bet your grandfather had no problem with women is his life, yes?

  353. Kms2014 says:

    So…am just curious….If a sugar baby wants to ‘take her time’ and feel comfortable with you, before sexual intercourse, then that is a ‘no go’, for you, however, the SB who will ‘put out’ right away, before you start allowance is the more desirable scenario for you?

    Do you think the average college co-ed who isn’t a SB has had more sexual partners than a SB that is of the same age? Do you go down on women who are not SB? Just curious…

    And yes, I was called ‘less than desirable’ for my proclamation of, perhaps, enjoying dating more than one man at once….It was insinuated that I was not ‘a clean ride’ and sexually prolific, and that men do not want this. They want a virgin, but oh wait….don’t want a virgin because she won’t know what she is doing. Just a woman with no other sexual partners or history, whom is a sexually experienced thunder cat in bed 😉

  354. flyr says:

    My grandfather gave me some priceless advice regarding the care and feeding of SB’s when I was 4 years old “ladies first”

    I’m also a great believer that for most sugar relationships, the foundation is “laid” in the first ten minutes of nakedness. If the SB’s had at least one great, unrushed, , oral induced O it has a high probability of launching the relationship in a good direction. A “duty” of course not –

  355. Josh says:

    I don’t think that anyone called you “dirty”. As a matter of fact, no SD called any blogging or non blogging SB “dirty”. Also, no SD ever said that the reason for their refrain for cunnilingus had anything to with anyone being “dirty”.

    It was one currently inactive SB who just made up the reason without bothering to ask why I don’t go down in my SB.

    I never bothered to explain why I don’t because the more you wrote the more that blogger went on tangents.

    Now MY reasons for not going down has to do with fear of STDs.

  356. Kms2014 says:

    Being selective doesn’t equate to looking for a husband, or something similar…the last thing I want is a husband right now, ehehe. But, have one SD right now…would I be dirty if I wanted to date another one? Hehehe 😉

  357. gentle(man)soul says:

    Sugar Dating IMHO is different from IRL dating . Many of you allude to your quest to find an SD as if you are looking for a husband . I applaud holding yourself to a high standard ,but I repeat my Rhetorical questions from several days ago . “Why are you on here (this site) and What are you looking for ? ” Lets make them real questions ,not rhetorical .

    I’ll start . I am here to find a 20 something year old girl who is attractive to me ,smart enough to entertain me , and willing to be my lover when I want her to be . Period . We aren’t going to marry ,or ever meet each others’ families , or raise each others’ kids(hopefully) . In return I will pay her an allowance we both agree to ,and I will treat her as my treasured angel for whom I am extremely grateful.

    BTW , I love ,love,love giving oral sex and would not select an SB who would not like to receive it .

  358. Kms2014 says:

    “If you treat your SB like a rental car you’re likely to be treated as a customer rather than a friend with benefits. If it is not working make a change -”

    @flyr…best comment I have seen in awhile (: soooo true 😉

  359. Kms2014 says:

    FB, not all SD have an aversion to oral sex on their SB…in fact, some get off on giving their SB pleasure, since some men…yes, ‘some men’, actually find it sexually ‘exciting’ to give a woman pleasure, just like many, yes, ‘many’ women find it a ‘turn-on’ or sexually stimulating to see a man’s face when it is given to them. Am I being too explicit here 😉 hehe

    Of course, your decision to not do this act is entirely up to you, but know that if your SB ever gets tired of the one-sided view you have, then do not be surprised if she seeks greener pastures…

  360. SouthernSB says:

    @FB
    Awww, you really know how to charm a woman.

  361. Kms2014 says:

    “I am monogamous with my SB when I ask her for the same respect . Tit for Tat so to speak . I have had more than one SB at a time on occasion ,and have accepted our relationships as a working one as opposed to a real SD/SB one .The girls involved were -like you said on occasion -working several Daddies at one time . More fun and money -no ? True love and respect with multiples ? Not likely . So don’t criticize the guys for doing the same thing that you are .Just agree to be cut of the same cloth as we are .”

    Also, I never said anything bad, or criticized any men on blog about having multiple SB, like you apparently have admitted to. However, I was criticized for eluding to and saying that I liked the attention of more than one SD, or sometimes enjoyed dating more than one SD at a time, yes? (Also, never did I mention sleeping with all of them..was more of a weeding out process in dating, just like real-life dating is a weeding out process for a good match) It was called, what did you say?…

    “many guys like a “guaranteed clean ride” ,a girl not exposed to STDs from other –shall we say –sexually prolic SBs as KMS purports to be. BTW ,even condoms do not totally protect anyone from STD possibilities, particularly oral .”

    So, I was basically accused of being ‘dirty’ and ‘sexually prolic'(assume you meant, ‘prolific’ here). When has any man on this blog been accused of that? I only wish I could be cut from the same cloth as you men are, since then I would never be called dirty or sexually prolific…if I were a man, who spoke of wanting or enjoying more than one SB’s attention, or affections, then I would be applauded and admired, by other men, yes? Ehehe…just a thought 😉

  362. SouthernSB says:

    Sorry for the typos, but for some reason my spellcheck isn’t working. BTW, does anyone know how to disable the sticky keys?

  363. SouthernSB says:

    @Richard
    I don’t think there is a woman alive who didn’t wait for marriage who hasn’t had a man bail out on her after they had sex. Some men just enjoy “the challenge” and will dump a girl after she gives in, even if it takes him a whole year to get her in bed. Most of the time, it’s the players who are perpretrating this “crime” against women, and you can bet they are the first ones to be out right before a major holiday or birthday.

  364. FatBastardSA says:

    “Is this why certain bloggers feel that oral sex on their SB is ‘dirty’?”

    It has nothing to do with being dirty. If I am giving an allowance then it is all about me. The SB can get oral sex from her BF if that is what she needs.

    “I have been involved as an SD for more than a decade. There’s an abundance of attractive, nice, intelligent, healthy, incredibly sensual SB’s with very reasonable expectations.”

    You also run marathons and work as lumberjack while subsisting on a handful of organic blueberries, the rest of us are not as fortunate. To say there is an abundance of such SB’s is as idiotic as saying there is an abundance of 30 year old attractive and interesting SD’s on the site. These SB’s and SD’s exist on the site but they probably find each other very quickly. The remainder of the SB’s get the FatBastardSD experience which starts off with them rubbing my belly and telling me how sexy I am and gets worse and worse…

  365. Kms2014 says:

    “I think this idea is so pervasive it affects women in sugar relationships as well. Although some women are definitely purposely gaming men and trying to get as much as possible before them without giving up sex, I think many are afraid that once they actually have intercourse the men will disappear.

    I’ve encountered it a couple of times, in both situations with younger women. Anyone else seen it?”

    Yes, Richard, this is a very normal fear that some women have, since most women have experienced the ‘hump and dump’, or ‘hit it and split it’, if you will forgive my lack of eloquence, of the matter.

  366. Kms2014 says:

    “Kms2014

    ” I am naughty, and proud…I get a bit of thrill from excitement of more than one man’s attention for me as a SD…and want more than one SD, sometimes–not always, and definitely not 4 or 5, ehehe…But, I like having more than one, sometimes. It is fun–this lifestyle can become a bit addictive, and can get carried away.”

    @mansoul…notice, I said ‘attention’, not sex fiend. Everyone likes attention and to have options, so that one can make a better decision on what exactly you do want, or who is a best to pick for a SD…or, to maybe, date a few SD POTS, in order to decide who is the best match, just like in real life dating. I look as sugar dating as real life dating, since the men I date are men I would date in regular life as well. I don’t go for the old men who want a 25 year old girl…I go for the ones who seek a little more than just the physical. It doesn’t mean you are sleeping with each man you are dating. No…you didn’t hit a nerve, but get tired of double standards on blog. I guess men want the illusion on here…but, is anonymous
    blog, so sometimes you guys get the truth, in both the male and female perspective, and it seems to be hard for some men to accept that women like options, just like men do. Just being honest…

  367. Richard says:

    Many women think there is something magical about intercourse, and that once a man has had sex with them (meaning vaginal penetration) that they have lost some sort of bargaining chip. I’ve heard many women express a fear that once a man has intercourse with them they will leave.

    In many cases it’s based on their own experience, and the fear is not completely unfounded. Many men do get off on the conquest and will leave once they’ve “had” a woman. You see this behavior often in movies and television. I suspect many women also learn this fear from their mothers.

    Ironically, some women will do every sexual act BUT intercourse, including some that many consider much more deviant, but save actual vaginal penetration until they are “sure.”

    I think this idea is so pervasive it affects women in sugar relationships as well. Although some women are definitely purposely gaming men and trying to get as much as possible before them without giving up sex, I think many are afraid that once they actually have intercourse the men will disappear.

    I’ve encountered it a couple of times, in both situations with younger women. Anyone else seen it?

  368. gentle(man)soul says:

    Kms2014

    ” I am naughty, and proud…I get a bit of thrill from excitement of more than one man’s attention for me as a SD…and want more than one SD, sometimes–not always, and definitely not 4 or 5, ehehe…But, I like having more than one, sometimes. It is fun–this lifestyle can become a bit addictive, and can get carried away.”

    My discussion was not aimed at you Kms other than quoting(misquoting ? )what you said . Whew ! I hit a nerve I guess .

    True that I view women who have multiple sex partners as undesirable for me -particularly when exchange of $$ takes place . Call it what you will.

    I am monogamous with my SB when I ask her for the same respect . Tit for Tat so to speak . I have had more than one SB at a time on occasion ,and have accepted our relationships as a working one as opposed to a real SD/SB one .The girls involved were -like you said on occasion -working several Daddies at one time . More fun and money -no ? True love and respect with multiples ? Not likely . So don’t criticize the guys for doing the same thing that you are .Just agree to be cut of the same cloth as we are .

  369. RSD says:

    I’ve taken it slow with SBs before. It’s not a bad idea to find out who I’m sleeping with first. Many times I’m so glad I didn’t sleep with someone. But perhaps I’m on the sexually conservative side of things.

  370. KatPaw says:

    What can I say I’m human I have faults. Lol

  371. Kms2014 says:

    Thank you, flyR…for being a sensible voice of reason, on an often negative blog environment (:

  372. KatPaw says:

    Feel free to email me flyr can’t say I’ll be the nicest of responses.. Just not myself and taking it out on others is bad.. :-(

  373. flyr says:

    Bad kitty ????? inquiring minds want to know

  374. flyr says:

    8K per month Simply filter your searches and you will not have to waste your emotional capital on such things. If I get a note from an otherwise appealing but way out of budget sometimes I will write back thanking them for their interest , reminding them that my posted budget is what I think I should be spending and wishing them well. About half the time I’ll get a note back saying that they overstated their requirements to discourage tire kickers ( probably not a good idea – do it with words) and that they want to talk.

    I’m surprised at all bitterness here on both sides. I have been involved as an SD for more than a decade. There’s an abundance of attractive, nice, intelligent, healthy, incredibly sensual SB’s with very reasonable expectations.

    Yes there are takers and users and haters, but it’s pretty easy to eliminate most of the bad ones for the cost of a cup of coffee or glass of wine.

    If you treat your SB like a rental car you’re likely to be treated as a customer rather than a friend with benefits. If it is not working make a change –

  375. KatPaw says:

    Wish the last couple days never happened! Ugh this kitty going to go curl up till this gloom passes.. What I get for being a bad kitty..

  376. DarkHorseSD says:

    “If you are a SD looking for that 1% be prepared to waste money. The up side is that you will eventually find a great SB if you have deep enough pockets. My guess is that the SD who would be able to recognize the 1% would not be using the site though.”

    It would be faster to wait for one to fall out of the sky, through your roof and into your bed holding the results of that afternoon’s STD tests while you are watching tv in the evening and still awake enough to have sex, which you won’t because you two are going to take it slow. ŁôŁ

    Note punctuation with form of el oh el

  377. DarkHorseSD says:

    Josh: Replace your ‘Women’s Logic’ theories with Rinser’s Logic and what do you get?

    I think you will find explained much Non-Male Logic behavior amongst that set of women.

  378. Kms2014 says:

    By the way, to the men on here who actually know what a proper ‘mutually beneficial’ arrangement is and entails…and for those who just respect women, in general…I thank you for being on the blog, even though the the environment is quite negative, lately (:

  379. Kms2014 says:

    “many guys like a “guaranteed clean ride” ,a girl not exposed to STDs from other –shall we say –sexually prolic SBs as KMS purports to be. BTW ,even condoms do not totally protect anyone from STD possibilities, particularly oral .”

    Hahaha, where did you get that? Because I’ve mentioned I like to have more than one SD before? If you only knew! I haven’t been sexual with that many of my SD…much less in my regular dating life. Once again, women are ‘sluts’ if they have had more than a few sexual partners and men are ‘studs’, if they are able to pull many women, or want ‘several’ SB, or even SB options going on at once. And yes, this is misogyny! Not only that, but ”assumed misogyny’, since I never said how many SD I’ve had or have had sex with. What a sad little small-minded world some of you guys live in. So, let me get this straight…(and I am speaking to the ‘you know who(s)’ on here, not the sensical males….you guys don’t want a ‘virgin’, except for her ‘product sales point’ of a lessened ‘std’ risk…but, due to lack of sexual prowess(i.e., experience with sex) as she is not as valued either, since she will be inexperienced. However, if a SB has had more than a few partners, or has had more than one SD at a time(even though only intimate with one, even if she is seeing two), then she is a dirty raging pro ported slut? Is this why certain bloggers feel that oral sex on their SB is ‘dirty’? How about men who have many sexual partners going at once? Or, have more than one SB going on at once, which is very commonplace for some SD 😉 Am I right? In this is what has been said?

    Also, have news for you…some women that are not even SB or even close to being in ‘sugar land’ or whatever you want to call it, and are just your everyday college co-ed, or 20/30 something, can be just as sexually active, if not more, than many women who are SB. Just some food for thought, since some girls I went to college with would take home random guys from a bar, almost every weekend, but their family, friends, and future boyfriends thought/ assumed they were practically virginal. This happens in both sexes, in that it’s like Forrest Gump says, ‘you never know what you’re gonna get’, so if you are worried about STDs have YOU and your potential SB(potential real life girlfriend), too, take an STD test. Simple as that.

    And yes, Josh, it is Darkhorse’s fault, if he continues to focus on picking the wrong SB or women, in his real life(or, at least ONLY focusing on the negative aspects of it). Not only that, but complains constantly about it. Like the saying goes, ‘insanity is doing the same thing over and over, then expecting different results’. Stop doing the same thing…stop dealing with selfish SB or women, and focus on women who have something more to offer YOU. I can understand if a bad experience made him upset or bitter…haven’t we all had them on here? But Reeeeaaally, either change your methods and learn from the past(like many SD and SB do), or get out of this lifestyle, since it obviously isn’t for you if it is turning one into a completely negative aura. Like someone else said, on here recently, ‘this world is not for the weak of heart or those who are not emotionally strong’.

    Did I just make too much sense, by the way? I will know if I did, by all the rude comments I will get after this. Seems the more sensical one is correlates to how many rude comments one gets in return, by certain posters. The more nonsensical comments get a ‘here here, we are men, all women are evil following, lately.’ If certain guys on here really think all women are so evil, then why not get off SA altogether? this is surely not the place to change/make your opinion get any better, since you will always focus/project on that of which you hate.

    Let the crazy woman hating/GPS comments(and now slut shaming me, too, I guess) begin, ehehe!

  380. KatPaw says:

    Yay! Termites back :-(

  381. KatPaw says:

    Meow sugars.
    Have a great Monday.

  382. gentle(man)soul says:

    Josh says:

    @JaneBaby via @ Josh

    This subject has come up before, and pretty much the “unanimous” consensus of the bloggers was that sugarworld was not the best place to lose one’s virginity.

    Jane, I could hardly wait to answer this when I came back from the weekend !
    1) tactfully post that you are a virgin ,or at least inexperienced.

    many guys like a “guaranteed clean ride” ,a girl not exposed to STDs from other –shall we say –sexually prolic SBs as KMS purports to be. BTW ,even condoms do not totally protect anyone from STD possibilities, particularly oral .

    many guys love breaking in a virgin to the joys of sex

    And many guys like a girl who is not sexually promiscuous. To some ,sex should be enjoyed as a benefit of a meaningful loving relationship.

    2)Sugarland is a good place to lose your virginity.

    Assuming your new partner has sexual skills . That is a BIG ASSume . The risk you take is that some fumbling SD with borderline function and worse skills could negatively impact you and your idea of how sex should be .A talented lover would enjoy teaching you how to give and receive pleasure .

    3)Go slowly ?

    It is not likely to happen in Sugarland .Most guys are paying to play, and play soon. There are many reasons for this . Married SDs have very limited times they can get away and want the biggest bang for their buck. Single guys can have their pick of SBs who will readily put out if they want to begin the sugar arrangement .So competition will be merciless .And as Josh said, Sugar arrangements have a very short shelf life so the nature of the beast is short and sweet .

    So what is a virgin to do ? Put your profile up Jane , be up front and honest about your needs ,and screen like crazy to make sure you get the best 1st time . And as always happens in Sugar life ,YMMV. Or crudely put , you pays your money and takes your chances . Good luck ! BTW ,where are you in the USA ? Hehe ,I might love to take on the job of introducing you to nirvana .

  383. FatBastardSA says:

    99% of the time “Take it slow”, “organic relationship”, etc., are all code words for “looking for a sucker”. Do not bother with these SB’s and direct them to the WYP site.

    If you are a SD looking for that 1% be prepared to waste money. The up side is that you will eventually find a great SB if you have deep enough pockets. My guess is that the SD who would be able to recognize the 1% would not be using the site though.

  384. FatBastardSA says:

    Too many expectations from SD’s on the site and what SA can provide.

    Women who are willing to have monogamous relationships are looking for men willing to provide real commitment (most SD’s are not) and won’t be rushing to join the site. Expect your SB to be sleeping around and shopping around for other SD’s.

    Delusional SB bitches with unrealistic expectations. The nature of the site itself and the current marketing campaign is guaranteed to attract these kind of women. A SD will have to search hard to find a good SB.

    An SD accounting executive with a good six figure salary and a Mercedes is not equivalent to Mick Jagger or Steven Tyler. It will take more than a $500 membership to find a hot woman 20-30 years his junior to be romantically interested in him even with an allowance.

  385. Josh says:

    “Take is slow” is a sibling of “I am a good girl I don’t sleep around.”

    I a happily ever after (Disney) scenario “take it slow” for a few weeks or months is OK. In a sugar “relationship”, which typically last for few weeks or months, “take it slow” is way too risky for the SD.

  386. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    I totally agree with your advice to DarkHorseSD. Being a man, it’s always his fault. 😉

  387. JustATequilaSD says:

    Well, it’s been fun everyone. My little foray back into the sandbox is done. I’ll pop back in now and then.

    Elvis has left the building.

  388. Kms2014 says:

    Would someone like some cheese with their whine? 😉 ehehe /-: = technically, means ‘undecided’, me thinks, but looks like a dumbfounded or disappointed sign to me.

    If one starts to focus on the positive, instead of always the negative…for example, focus on profiles and women who are not all about ‘me, me, me’, or ‘I, I, I’, then you might attract something closer to what you seek. Like attracts like, and if you are always giving off negative vibes, like the ones you do on here, then that might be part of your problem in not finding what you really want, or seem to be looking for.

  389. DarkHorseSD says:

    Amen…

    Who turned SD into Sucker Daddy?

  390. DarkHorseSD says:

    “I think this behavior is appaling, and I’m quite shocked that there are men who have money that they can just spend on literally nothing. The egos of these women are also out of this world, there is nothing in their mind but themselves. The word “rinser” in itself, implying they would rinse the victim of their money, is almost sickening to me. It’s all just so cynical and totally lacking empathy, simply one of those things where you might say it makes you lose hope for mankind.”

    www .bubblews .com/ news/ 2188113-rinsers

  391. DarkHorseSD says:

    “I think this behavior is appaling, and I’m quite shocked that there are men who have money that they can just spend on literally nothing. The egos of these women are also out of this world, there is nothing in their mind but themselves. The word “rinser” in itself, implying they would rinse the victim of their money, is almost sickening to me. It’s all just so cynical and totally lacking empathy, simply one of those things where you might say it makes you lose hope for mankind.”

    Amen

    bubblews.com/news/2188113-rinsers

  392. DarkHorseSD says:

    Or mid 30’s in Atlanta wants 8k/mo…what are you, a catalog model for one of the major fashion retailers? Are you in Playboy or dancing at Hustler?

    Everybody is out of control!

    How about the 50yr old on WYP asking $300 for a first date?

    Wow /-:

    And what the hell is /-: ????

  393. DarkHorseSD says:

    “If you are paying $20-$50k per year for school”

    These young ones are so accustomed to being an expense line item costing 100-150k/yr and are so young they still have that childish lack of concept that money comes from somewhere. (you just go to bank and get more when you need it.) Plus they haven’t paid their own bills yet with money they earned in a productive job…

    They are totally out of control, expecting to just move on to the next stage of being pampered and supported as of right.

  394. DarkHorseSD says:

    Wow /-: I’m being hit up for things like shipping (overnight for only $25) $1000 Herve Ledger dresses to a profile’s home so she can wear it when she meets me.

    How’s that for wow?

  395. Josh says:

    Conversely, from the mutual benefits point of view, it has ALWAYS worked out better for both of us when the SB took the lead. 😉

  396. Josh says:

    24hoursofhappy do com 10:16 AM

  397. Kms2014 says:

    Just…wow…squared now :-/

  398. Josh says:

    My batting average in the “take it slow” arena is a big fat ZERO.

    I accept it. It’s ALL MY FAULT. I should’ve screened better. *rolling eyes*

  399. RSD says:

    I would consider a two-step arrangement where there could be a two or three or four date period over a couple of weeks without sex and at a greatly reduced per meet allowance. It would allow us both time to see if it would work. Just as an SB may be pressured for sex, pressure on the SD can be immense to quickly decide on the arrangement and pay up when he barely knows the girl.

  400. flyR says:

    @Josh ““Take it slow” is NEVER proposed from the SB side as “let’s take it slow from both sides. I don’t put out and you don’t pay until I am ready.”

    It is ALWAYS proposed as “I will put out whenever I am ready (which is 99% of the time NEVER) but you will take care of me starting immediately.””

    “Always” ?

    perhaps in some populations but that should be part of the very early screening process. Of course there are girls out there looking for a SD willing to put sugar in the bowl to see if their goodwill will be returned. Just like there are guys who’ll suggest let’s worry about the financial side of it tomorrow and not let it spoil the evening.

    I’ve also advanced sugar on very rare occasions and am probably batting 66% on those. Comfortable with the couple who flaked that I learned about them early. But not something I would do on a regular basis. There’s nothing wrong with meeting 3-4 times before game on as long as both expect that nothing happens on either side .

  401. KatPaw says:

    Think I have to agree on

    Wow…/-:

  402. Josh says:

    @Kms

    If the “Wow” was for my comment then let me be more specific.

    “Take it slow” is NEVER proposed from the SB side as “let’s take it slow from both sides. I don’t put out and you don’t pay until I am ready.”

    It is ALWAYS proposed as “I will put out whenever I am ready (which is 99% of the time NEVER) but you will take care of me starting immediately.”

    The only “take it slow” has any currency for me is when sugsr does not flow from either side while the “take it slow” SB is making her mind up.

    Is that Wow squared or super juvenile or mega misogynistic for ya? 😉

  403. Kms2014 says:

    Wow…./-:

  404. Josh says:

    I have zero interest in virgin aside from the fact that the positive about a virgin SB is that she is less of an STD threat.

    I would never deal with an SB who wanted to “take it slow” for any reason whatsoever. Been burned on that path more often than what I like to admit.

  405. RSD says:

    On the topic of virginity, my current SB never had intercourse before we met. She was 25 at the time and didn’t say anything about the issue other than saying that she wasn’t very experienced. It didn’t cross my mind that a 25 year old virgin may exist on SA. We did it quite early on and I quickly if not immediately realized that she had never done it before. I didn’t bring up the issue because it seemed awkward to put someone on the spot about whether she was a virgin or not, but months later she volunteered that she had never really had intercourse before me. I don’t know, there is a thrill to being someone’s first in theory, but in reality I’d prefer an SB who is comfortable with sex but not into sleeping around too much (kind of like myself, I suppose). The issue is not that I am looking for someone experienced who can be an acrobat in bed (I’ve never found that with any SB from SA), but because of emotional and attachment issues pertaining to being someone’s first. That all having been said, if I like an SB and she wants to take it slow because she’s a virgin, it would be ok, but not indefinitely; I’d start looking for her replacement if things didn’t move along reasonably.

  406. Josh says:

    @Tequila

    The Tori question came to kind in relation to the entitlement attitude. That’s all. I agree. She may not have been in front of camera sans the daddy Spelling factor.

  407. Josh says:

    Happy mother’s day to all mothers. :)

  408. Kms2014 says:

    You too, Katpaw and everyone else…Happy Mama’s Day ((((: xoxox

  409. KatPaw says:

    Happy Mother’s Day to all the sugars that have kids! Beautiful day today! Purrrrrrrfect!

  410. Beach_Girl says:

    Hello Sugars!

    Happy Mothers day to all the moms here :)

    JaneBaby~I agree with Richard and Flyr, don’t post that you are a virgin on your profile and make sure the SD you find is willing to wait and be sensitive to your needs. Why haven’t you been with anyone, is it because of a belief or something? Are you sure SA is the right place to lose your virginity? Why come here?

  411. DarkHorseSD says:

    Happy Sugar Momma’s Day

  412. FlyR says:

    It’s distressing to see so much of the event comment devoted to an increasing obsession with cash for session with mutually denigrating mind games thrown in for sport.

    Brandon has not helped in his relentless pursuit of the very young with the focus on money and shopping for stuff for the ego. My guess is that the young SBs operating in this part of the envelope are likely to be damaged in the process , meeting spicey’s. “Damaged people, damaging their partners”

    If you are paying $20-$50k per year for school why not pursue an SD who has more knowledge to joffer than your typical Professor in an area in which you are interested, perhaps related to your studies or a completely unrelated area. You’Re an artist trapped in an MBA program find someone whose focus is art, perhaps so with a business tie. Perhaps you want to experience offshore sailboat racing, flying, hanging out with rocket scientists or entrepreneurs. Dream, think, put it in your profile.

    I think the same advice goes for the single mother looking to lighten the burden and have some quality time. Think carefully about what you want, what would make your life better beyond the financial benefit.

    The encouragement of very young SBs has done for sugar what open borders has done to job opportunities for our young people. Entry level “compensation” has been adversely affected. The SB who competes only on the basis of youth suffers both in the rewards and the term . However there”s a huge demand for of something more than the cash and trinket addicted SB suffering from gps

    Re virgin SB – younger I would say “give love a chance”. But you presumably have done that and my guess is that you are comfortable and enjoy oral. I’m with dh on not putting it in your profile. Rather stress that you are looking for a relationship to develop and that you are patient and your partner will enjoy the journey. Make sure it’s someone you a re comfortable with each step of the way.

  413. Richard says:

    @JaneBaby – Given that you aren’t a teenager most potential SDs are going to assume you are sexually experienced. I wouldn’t disclose your virginity in your profile but, as I said before, wait until you discuss intimacy in general. You’re going to definitely want an SD that is interested in a long term arrangement and is willing to be wait for intimacy. I think some men would be thrilled to introduce you to the joys of sex. Finding one that is also gentle and patient and concerned with your pleasure as well as his own is going to be a challenge, though. Just being honest. :(

    Out of curiosity, why are you still a virgin? Is it a religious thing or have you just not dated many men?

    Are you reasonably attractive? This might sound cruel, but men are shallow, and physical attractiveness is likely the most important characteristic on this site. If you’re beautiful you’re much more likely to find an SD that will be willing to wait for intimacy.

  414. SouthernSB says:

    @Josh
    Church mice are very low maintenance and skinny due to the fact that they don’t eat much. They only eat the crumbs from the pastor’s table.

  415. SouthernSB says:

    @All the SBs who have children. Happy Mothers Day!!! You raise the people who will rule the world!!! Hope you have a good one!! I just got the best Mother’s Day present of them all. My daughter is graduating!! After 8 years, she’s finally going to do it!! I am mega-proud of her!! One day Sugars your children are going to make you all so proud that you all are going to be crying for joy in your coffee cups too. Today we are all meeting up at my mother’s house and breaking out the Veuve Clicquot.

  416. Kms2014 says:

    @Tequila…did you really believe me when I said I only wore ‘pants’? Ehehe 😉 Was joking, dear….I assure you that I have only the proper lady bits(in past and now 😉

    Also, I think if you assume most SB are going into ‘exclusive’ arrangement mode, without the ‘talk’, first, then you might be mistaken…Just like regular dating…just because two people have been dating awhile, and even slept together after some times dating, does not equate to an ‘exclusive’ relationship, unless it has been discussed(in most instances). Personally, I do not automatically think ‘arrangement=exclusive’, unless that has been agreed upon or requested, just as in regular dating. In fact, have had an experience where was told I was not expected to be exclusive, even though we were in an ‘arrangement’, so different strokes for different folks.

    You wrote too much for me to address the rest…have headache today. Hope you understand
    …and even though I have always worn skirts, as well as pants, I appreciate your input. Xxo

  417. DarkHorseSD says:

    The copy and paste solicitation asked “what do you think?”

  418. DarkHorseSD says:

    “I think there is nothing in your profile and you need to give me a reason to show some interest.”

    Is that an appropriate response to a profile with nothing but 5 words in each section and a chest only photo when a generic ‘I’d like to get to know you’ solicitation is sent twice to me?

  419. JaneBaby says:

    @JustATequilaSD – Thanks for replying. I hope someone worthy is getting to enjoy that sexual greatness. Sorry, the ‘little deflating’ didn’t mean to sound defeatist! I haven’t actually made a profile yet. I wanted to have this figured out first.

  420. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Eloquence
    “None of us can take our time back”
    Not a battle of the sexes, IN A SUGAR RELATIONSHIP, I feel the same way about SugarMommies and their Sugarbabies. You want your Sugar to be in a position to consistently provide. If you can’t be understanding, if you want it to be truly equal, then pay your exact 50% of every sugar activity. But that’s not why we’re here, is it?
    “drunk texting? anyone?”
    I like it. Now take off yer clothes, post about it. 😀 Picture link, anyone??

    @SouthernSB
    “men are mammals”
    AWESOME UNDERSTANDING OF MEN. Your ex-hubby obviously doesn’t know what he gave up.

    @Midwest SD
    “I am ready to move on if she flakes or screws this up”
    LOVE IT. Keep it in mind…always.

    @Josh
    “Chinese and Indian kids are graduating lean, mean and economic fighting machines.”
    How are the parents making those “grown” 18 y.o.’s do this?

    “Is Tori Spelling millionaire 100s of times over or dead broke?”
    Is 90210 still on? This is probably the bottom of my “who gives a shit” list. She only got on the show because her daddy owned like half of hollywood. And that was after the nose job. I’m sorry I dedicated these sentences to her. Moving on.

  421. JustATequilaSD says:

    @JaneBaby
    “I’m a virgin.”
    I would say to sign me up immediately, but I guess I’ll let someone else go first, so you’ll have something to compare my infinite sexual greatness to.
    Other than that, don’t worry about the ignorance and the questions. Take your time. Many daddies will want sex very soon. If you’re ok with that then great. If not, then wait cuz that’s great too. I don’t know if I’d put it in my profile, but I’d bring it up when we started to email/talk/text/etc. And bring your own condoms just in case of fire (in your pants.) If you’ve been hanging around the blog, you’ve probably heard that there are sb’s out there that have no idea what they’re doing in bed…and they’re not virgins. So don’t sweat the performance either way. And I agree with most of Richard’s post too.

    “I’m worried that I’d just be wasting a lot of pot SDs time by getting close to them only to reveal this kind of ‘issue’.”
    There are some SD’s that will specifically look for you strictly based on your virginity. Again, I’ll say don’t sweat it so much.

    “That’s good to know! A little deflating…”
    Do you want an SD or not?? Fix your profile. Do your searches. Read your emails. Wait. Lather, rinse, repeat, until you find your SD. Pretty much same as every other sb.

  422. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Kms2014
    “don’t be heinous, or I’ll not do it up the a**s!”
    I would HEINOUSLY put it up your a**s! Wait, didn’t you just tell me you have a penis??? I’m sorry, but I can’t move to Bangkock, even for you. Are you sure it’s not one of those “super-clits”?

    “Double standard, much?”
    I do not specifically condone cheating on his wife. That is a contract that he’s already broken (or not, in Katpaw’s case.) I don’t know who breached the contract first in that instance. In this new contract between him and his sb, I’m assuming that he has kept his part of the bargain THAT THEY BOTH AGREED TO, and she hasn’t. There has to be some level of honor even among theives.
    While on the subject of double standard…let’s do a hypocrisy check. Are you telling me that you’re the type of sb that breaks commitments and lies to her SD’s on things you’ve agreed on? Are you telling me you don’t care if your SD breaks his commitments to you because he’s already lying to his wife? Notice I didn’t say “expect”, I said “don’t care”. Tell me you at least TRY to screen for someone that you think will be honest with you. And, double st(I’ll be waiting for your double standard apology.)

    “proper allowance adjustments made for exclusivity”
    ROTFLMFAO, the ENTIRE allowance is based on exclusivity. I understand you may want a back up plan. I can’t guarantee the relationship will work out if you are exclusive. But, I can guarantee I will end if you aren’t.

    “and want more than one SD, sometimes–not always, and definitely not 4 or 5”
    I’d bang you like I was 4 or 5 guys. DAMMIT, I KEEP FORGETTING YOUR LITTLE FRIEND.

    “my SD brought up being exclusive recently”
    Even though I immediately expect exclusivity in any relationship, if you can get extra money bump for going duo, I say go for it. Threesomes are over-rated. Hell, if you can get him to put a ring on it later on, unleash your “little friend” on that SD.

  423. JaneBaby says:

    @Josh – Thanks for the reply, Josh. That’s good to know! A little deflating… but perfectly understandable.

  424. Josh says:

    However, based on your age, it would be very difficut for an SD to really believe you.

    That said, you are way passed you teens, which was the case with another virgin who was advised to call off sugar due to her age and lack of general worldly experience, you may tread carefully, take your time, and find an understanding SD.

  425. Josh says:

    @JaneBaby

    This subject has come up before, and pretty much the “unanimous” consensus of the bloggers was that sugarworld was not the best place to lose one’s virginity.

  426. JaneBaby says:

    @Richard – Thank you for scrolling back up! I wasn’t sure if reposting was rude or not. I’m 27. So I don’t get the bonus of being in the especially young range either. I’ve been intimate with a woman before, but I can’t say either of us were especially knowledgeable. Since you’re so surprised… I’m worried that I’d just be wasting a lot of pot SDs time by getting close to them only to reveal this kind of ‘issue’.

  427. Richard says:

    @JaneBaby – Wow, that’s a question I never thought I’d see here! How old are you? Do you have much sexual experience other than intercourse? If so, you can certainly start slowly with your SD, not moving to intercourse until you’re ready. There are many ways to make a man happy. 😉

    I wouldn’t be in a hurry to reveal that you’re a virgin. When you reach a comfort level with a potential SD that allows you to discuss intimacy in general you should also disclose your inexperience. I tend to date older SBs, and they tend to be experienced sexually, but there are some on the blog that prefer younger SBs, so perhaps they’ve encountered your situation.

    It would be a major issue for me, to be honest. But, again, I tend to look for SBs in their 30s or older.

  428. JaneBaby says:

    Whoops! By the time my question was approved to post, too many other things had gone by!

  429. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB,

    What other characteristics does a church mouse have other than being broke and quiet? 😉

  430. SouthernSB says:

    Tori is broke as a church mouse until Candy kicks the bucket.

  431. midwest sugar daddy says:

    @DarkHorseSD Lol. I am having decent luck for only being active for a couple months. I am looking for the 21-25 range. These are mostly the hottest SB’s in my area, but sometimes the most problematic due to maturity.

    @Josh I have been a lurker, so it is nice to post and continue to learn.

    @Richard I really like your posts. Don’t go away yet. I need to get my game up and ensure that I am slaying SB’s as they come.

    In actuality, I have been able to get into the game and have a good time, at least right now. I get the illusion aspect and I have kept up my guard to ensure that this arrangement works for me and my SB. I am confident that it is for now, but I am ready to move in if she flakes or screws this up. The ratios in my area are good, My age and appearance do allow me some advantages if I need to pick up the next hot SB.

  432. Josh says:

    I am light on sugar activity lately because of some very good reasons.

    As a matter of fact I have tens to messages I have not even read.

  433. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question: Is Tori Spelling millionaire 100s of times over or dead broke? 😉

  434. Josh says:

    I hear you @RSD. When I graduated I had a personal loan of a few hundred dollars from a housemate. I paid it off within a couple of months within graduation because I had an “awesome” hourly job in my field of interest paying $14/hour.

    Today, dorms fees and facilities in colleges and universities add thousands, if not tens of thousands, of dollars to the college loans.

    Part of the blame may go to the parents who pay for colleges. Some of my friends are paying for their kids expenses so that they may enjoy the “college experience”, which is bullshit in my book.

    Chinese and Indian kids are graduating lean, mean and economic fighting machines.

  435. RSD says:

    In reality I’m a sugar dating addict myself so I don’t judge anyone for sugar addiction.

  436. Kms2014 says:

    @ RSD…yes, this is very true. I can understand that. I’m actually kind of in that situation now, in that my SD brought up being exclusive recently, so I prefer long term as well, if it is with someone that is close to my age and have a true connection with…. I do enjoy the excitement and fun of having a small SD harem of two SD sometimes, but when I have done this, was only intimate with one…Also, if there are really deep feelings, then only want one SD, and hope he wants the same. This lifestyle can get addictive, though, and some of these girls(especially young) get a taste of the ‘finer things’, then let it go to their heads, or it becomes a little addictive…I am guilty of this, in some aspects, since it can be exciting and new….so, perhaps, you can understand if they let it go yo their heads a little, if they are new to this lifestyle…

  437. RSD says:

    AliceS, whatsyourprice seems totally dead to me. Where I live, which is a huge city, it appears that about six girls log in to WYP every day. SA is much better.

  438. RSD says:

    One thing I notice in general these days is that young people expect to have so many luxuries. When I went to college, I had a small, portable, battery-run, black and white TV. Later I had a 20″ color tv which was better than my friends’, so they’d come over and watch tv at my place. My wife had an 11″ black and white tv when I met her just after professional school (this is in 2000 btw, not the 1960s). I didn’t have a car till my last year in college (I took the bus, the train, got rides, etc). I grew up with upper middle class to wealthy, though not extravagant, professional parents. My friends, many of whom came from rich backgrounds, lived similarly simple lifestyles, and they are all, without exception, successful and wealthy today.

    Nowadays though, it seems like every 20 year old expects a 46″+ flat screen HDTV and DVR in every room, cable TV with every premium channel, the latest cell phone with unlimited data plans, and a nice set of wheels. And what they enjoy in wants and needs they lack in ambition and vision for the future. I guess the difference is living today or living for tomorrow.

  439. aliceS says:

    Uhm… sa site just send me a message, that I should join whatsyourprice.com site? Seriously? ??? Wow

  440. RSD says:

    Well, Kms, I think I go for longer-term affairs where the SB becomes more like the second wife. It has its pluses and minuses for both. I make it clear at the beginning (usually in my first message and then again in my first meet) that I’m looking for neither a fling nor happily-ever-after but something that would last several months to a few years. My allowances have been at least $4k/mo, which is plenty for a young single person to live comfortably off where I am. I ask for little, just someone who shows up on time twice a week for an hour and a half and who can handle a simple, honest affair. It’s essentially a take-it-or-leave-it deal and I don’t get the sense that the girls on SA, at least where I am, get better serious long-term offers.

    The issue of wives finding out I usually do address. I’ve been sugar dating for over six years and I am still not sure if my wife knows and doesn’t care or doesn’t know but doesn’t care to dig into things. Worst comes to worst, if we get caught, I could give the SB some severance money and she can find another SD.

    On the topic of finding another SD, in my experience my long term SBs don’t get back on SA. Two that I particularly have in mind have said that they realized they got lucky the first time and don’t want to try their luck. I guess it wasn’t a lifestyle for them but a fantasy or a rough patch in life. Or perhaps they got so many scammers and johns messaging them that they’re not temped to go back. Who knows.

  441. Kms2014 says:

    I am naughty, and proud…I get a bit of thrill from excitement of more than one man’s attention for me as a SD…and want more than one SD, sometimes–not always, and definitely not 4 or 5, ehehe…But, I like having more than one, sometimes. It is fun–this lifestyle can become a bit addictive, and can get carried away.

  442. SouthernSB says:

    I like to be exclusive to my SD (I’ve only had one, but it’s just my nature not to cheat), but I consider SDs to be men and to be a little like sailors, you know a woman in every port. I would never expect a SD or any man to really not be a cheater and that includes my now ex-husband. Men were not made to be monogamous, they are mammals not birds and they feel they need to spread their genes amongst as many of female recipients as possible. I’ve come to terms with that simple biological fact. I just don’t want to hear about all his conquests. I’m a woman, and my feelings get hurt if I don’t feel like I have a man’s total attention. If Halle Barry can’t keep a man from cheating, and she can’t, who am I to think I can?

  443. Kms2014 says:

    Hey RSD…I see your point, and understand your not wanting her to sleep with multiple SD….That is only normal. However, I was just pointing out that I didn’t think it was fair, if the scenario was expected, without the talk first, and proper allowance adjustments made for exclusivity. See, from a SB point of view, can be a little scary if she only has one SD, who is married…what if, his wife found out and stopped things immediately? I suppose, there is a little more risk in having a married sugar daddy, so some SB might want to leverage a little. Not to be a prostitute, but to be on the safe side. Not saying this is what all SB are thinking, but what would worry me, personally, if the wife was not privy to his secret SB world. There are the extreme examples, yes, of some SB saying they will be exclusive, but plan on looking for four or five others, but on the other hand, maybe, she wanted just two. I can see your point, though, if you have asked this, upfront, and made arrangements for adequate allowance amounts.

  444. KatPaw says:

    Lmao 1 hubby and 1 SD is plenty.. no more for me I’m not greedy

  445. RSD says:

    Kms, I don’t mind SBs looking for a bf but juggling multiple SDs to me is treading a fine line with prostitution. Anyways if I offer an SB a monthly allowance of $4k+ and ask that she not look for any other SD the ball is in her court. If she continues to look, I will continue to look for her replacement as well. It never ends well for the SB then. I am not looking for someone who is sleeping with five guys who are each sleeping with five girls etc; it’s asking for STDs and drama from the other guys involved in the SB’s life.

  446. JaneBaby says:

    Hey everyone! Being new here, I’ve got a question and much thanks to anyone in advance for answering. The thing is, I’m a virgin. While I’m perfectly eager to learn with someone I’ve grown comfortable with, I can understand that a daddy might not want to put up with the ignorance, questions, and any perceived emotional issues. So, my question becomes: when should this be brought up? I’d like to be able to give having a connection a chance, but the last thing I want is an expectant daddy to feel led on or like I’m trying to trick my way out of being intimate.

  447. Josh says:

    Lack of misandry on the blog automatically translates into “juvenile opinions and misogynist rants.”

  448. Josh says:

    I don’t believe that the blog is dying at all. The drama is down, and that’s based on the proactive decision the blog administration has taken to keep low of. The lack of drama directly translates into reduction of posts per day.

    Anyone who has anything to post should post without being harassed. However, if anyone posts anything and is countered within decent limits of discourse then he/she has the choice to either respond back or ignore it or defer the response to a later time.

    Personally, I like the bloggers who are posting now and have no problem with anyone else who chooses to post. If some bloggers have stopped posting due to reasons of their own then it’s their choice as well.

  449. Richard says:

    @Zack – I don’t read the blog regularly anymore and rarely feel any desire to post. I don’t see any real dialogue, mostly juvenile opinions and misogynist rants. There are some exceptions, but few. Just my opinion.

  450. Zack says:

    Josh,

    It feels to me like the blog is dying; that it is less friendly, less useful, and likely less read than a few months ago. Do you feel it is a more comfortable and productive environment than 6 months ago? Than 2 years ago? What metrics do you use? I’d suggest unique views, “new” posters, or the frequency of pejoratives.

    Eh, well, I guess perhaps I’m feeling down seeing people I liked to read leave.

    www youtube.com/watch?v=RiE1KUS-pAM

  451. KatPaw says:

    @alice
    Drive safely!!!!
    @Kms
    Thank you. Lol just another day really but eek I think I’m ready to stop remembering that I’m getting older. Lol I’m being a silly girl a number is nothing but that.. Lol

  452. Kms2014 says:

    Be safe, Alice (: Happy early b-day, Katpaw! Xxo

  453. aliceS says:

    Katpaw I’m fine :) thank you. I will be on the road tonight. Back in France tomorrow :)

  454. KatPaw says:

    @Josh it’s doing great! Thank you! Back to normal thankfully! :-) lol Yay for getting older but wiser lol

  455. Josh says:

    @KatPaw

    How is your neck doing? And happy birthday, girl. 😉

  456. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    Yes we can because you do it in a mutually respectful manner. 😉

  457. SouthernSB says:

    @Elaine
    Good morning, you have mail.

  458. KatPaw says:

    @alice aww that’s sweet. How you doing sweetheart?

  459. aliceS says:

    Katpaw we can create some sort of an virtual party in here for you. Josh I hope sd can voice their perspective all the time. Because as many male have problems with understanding females, in the same way, females have problems with un coding male thinking process :) I’d like to know what difference we might have about same topics

  460. KatPaw says:

    Eeeks can we stop with the age thing with my birthday in 5 days I don’t want to think about getting into that “old” category! Lol

  461. FatBastardSA says:

    “My sister is 54…and just gave up dating 20 year olds in the last couple of years.”

    I guess this explains why there are very few Sugar Mommies on SA. 54 year old women date 20 year old guys IRL already.

  462. KatPaw says:

    Good morning sugarrrrrrrrs!

  463. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    The fully qualified sentence is:

    ”I am a lady but also have my southern belle REDNECK tendencies.”

    And to learn what a “redneck” is, you’ll need to watch Jeff Foxworthy’s videos. 😉

  464. Josh says:

    @midwest

    “As a new, fit 40 year old sugar daddy, this blog has been helpful.”

    This blog was not always helpful to the SDs. It used to be the brow-beating and outright harassment zone to SDs by SBs and their mangina supporters.

    At this time SDs are voicing their opinions and sharing their experiences without instant harassment.

    Let’s see how long the current state lasts.

  465. aliceS says:

    Kms2014 my autocorrect does the same lol. Specially when I try to reply to someone serious, or important to me. Then my face is covered with shame :/

  466. DarkHorseSD says:

    I need help translating the following comment into Male English:

    ” I am a lady but also have my southern belle tendencies.”

    Thank you.

  467. DarkHorseSD says:

    Midwest SD says: “As a new, fit 40 year old sugar daddy, this blog has been helpful.”

    I’m 10+ years older than you. Can I help you to find another website?

    Oh, and welcome or greetings.

  468. DarkHorseSD says:

    Yeah…don’t be heinous was in the profile. Awesome. She’s in my Favs

  469. Kms2014 says:

    Haha, I meant, is this site where one hopes* to seek honesty! truth and honor? Hehe, but perhaps, ‘hoes’ was a bit of Freudian autocorrect slip? Is autocorrect a bit of a perv, now? Always seems to be changing my innocent words into nips….I meant, ‘slips’..blast you, perverted autocorrect!

  470. Kms2014 says:

    “RSD says:
    May 9, 2014 at 4:08 pm
    D Dubs, in my experience, an exclusive and lasting arrangement only works when the SB and SD meet, agree to an arrangement quickly, and both delete their accounts within a few hours and avoid the site. When the girl doesn’t delete her account and keeps logging in, I do the same, and I end up finding someone else (my ability to replace an SB far outweighs her ability to replace me). But if you like her, keep her around while you keep looking and let her keep looking.

    I hate when SBs lie though. If she says she is exclusive but I know she’s not, I just make another account to entrap her in her lies (what’s $60 to buy a permanent break-up excuse?). Then I dump her right away or keep her as long as I want and when I’m tired of her BS I just say that I can’t go on with the arrangement because of the lies.”

    @RSD…I am curious…aren’t you married? So, you want your SB to be exclusive, but you are married? I’m not judging, but find it interesting when married men get miffed, when their SB is not completely exclusive…A bit double standard, yes? I can understand if the SD is single…and I can understand not wanting any STD’s brought home, but really, expecting exclusivity seems a bit demanding, since you are a married man. Just my opinion…

    @Tequila…you said this:
    @RSD
    “Then I dump her right away or keep her as long as I want and when I’m tired of her BS I just say that I can’t go on with the arrangement because of the lies.”
    I’d just dump her before she showed me how well she could steal as well as lie.”

    So, tequila, you think it is okay for him to lie to his wife about his affairs, but if his SB is not 100% honest with him, then she is a liar and a thief? Double standard, much? Some women are here should be more honest, but really? Is this site where one hoes to seek honesty, truth and honour? Realllllyy? 😉

  471. Kms2014 says:

    Heya Alice! Are you still in Poland?

  472. Kms2014 says:

    Ahahaha! ;-p

  473. Kms2014 says:

    Someone found my profile *gasp*. do believe I put, though, ‘don’t be heinous, or I’ll not do it up the a**s!

  474. Josh says:

    “don’t be heinous.”

    Was that in the profile?

  475. Zack says:

    do we really want to start on Ky Fried Movie?

    www youtube.com/watch?v=lENb6OzabPs

  476. DarkHorseSD says:

    Best word in a chic’s profile this week…

    Heinous. As in, don’t be heinous.

  477. Zack says:

    Elq…you’re drunk.

    Call me? 😛

  478. aliceS says:

    Evening all 😉 hope everyone is fine.

  479. Eloquence says:

    You the one that’s hella bad… the one you never had? drunk texting? anyone? elooooo??? lol..ok, Ill gain my composure any minute now….

  480. Eloquence says:

    and where in the world is OnyxP? and Sugary? Sweetie?…Marko…polo?

  481. Eloquence says:

    @ Tequila

    None of us can take our time back…. time is the most precious element. What if they are like me and have adhd and are not the most technologically inclined… bless my soul.. at this day and age of what I heard exsisted at my meger age of a babe….yet and still… its a battle of the sexes. no?

  482. JustATequilaSD says:

    @D Dubs
    Skipping over the lies and bullshit makes life easier for both parties. I had a girl tell me she didn’t have time to talk because she was busy. I had been working late on something, but would put aside time to talk to her. One night she texted that she was busy and we’d talk in a little while. Then, after an hour or so, I texted her, and she said she was still busy. Then she logged into her SA account a few minutes later. She seemed so surprised when I told her it wasn’t working out. Politely explain to your sb what you want and ask her if that’s what she had in mind. If not, move on.

    @All: While I’m thinking about it, my time is ALWAYS more valuable than your time. If you can’t understand that, you’re missing the point, and we can’t be together.

    @RSD
    “Then I dump her right away or keep her as long as I want and when I’m tired of her BS I just say that I can’t go on with the arrangement because of the lies.”
    I’d just dump her before she showed me how well she could steal as well as lie.

  483. RSD says:

    What I find interesting both in the NY Post article, with people I know in real life who voice their opinions about sugar dating, and with many of the comments on this thread is the notion that all sugar arrangements are carbon copies of one another. In reality, yes, the basic idea is to throw in money to sweeten the deal for a younger hotter girl, but there are so many variations depending on the individuals involved. SBs can have true attraction, devotion, or love for their SD, and the SD’s fascination with his SB and his desire to take care of her may not be purely out of sexual desire.

    When I was 35, I met a 24 year old SB who was absolutely in love with her mid-50s SD and was only looking for another SD because she could not take her strong feelings for him any more (as she put it, she fell totally in love with him to the point that it was painful not being with him all the time). She thought I was way too young for her (she said several times how it was hard for her to date someone 35 years old–way too young for her in her mind). Needless to say, she ended up back with him, and I was quite happy that they were able to work something out since her heart was with him. Her attraction for someone more than twice her age was genuine and real and she loved having sex with him and I don’t think that a better monetary deal was what she was seeking.

    And some women are truly attracted to older men. I know of a 27 year old who is totally in love with her 53 year old BF who is her father’s age. No money involved (as far as I know), and she’s the one who wants to marry him; he’s scared to get married.

    I’ve seen a spectrum from whores who’d sleep with anyone for cash to those seeking true love and happily-ever-after on this site, and many shades in between. Yes, some SBs have scammed me and ran with what seems to me like a pittance, but others have offered to pay back their allowances because the relationship was not about money. In one particular case, an SB refused to accept my allowance for the meet-and-greet dinner because she really liked my company and did not feel like she needed to get paid for it (I guess she was expecting it to be payment for an unpleasant dinner as opposed to something she would gladly volunteer for). My current SB really wants us to continue our relationship without any allowance even though she will be financially independent in less than two months. She is not with me for money, although her falling on hard times is what brought her to this site.

    The media and the public and members of the sugar bowl tend to concentrate on particular stereotypes of sugar dating, and I don’t think these are representative of the gems that are out there.

  484. Josh says:

    “my ability to replace an SB far outweighs her ability to replace me”

    I am NOT that picky. The above works for me as well. 😉

  485. RSD says:

    D Dubs, in my experience, an exclusive and lasting arrangement only works when the SB and SD meet, agree to an arrangement quickly, and both delete their accounts within a few hours and avoid the site. When the girl doesn’t delete her account and keeps logging in, I do the same, and I end up finding someone else (my ability to replace an SB far outweighs her ability to replace me). But if you like her, keep her around while you keep looking and let her keep looking.

    I hate when SBs lie though. If she says she is exclusive but I know she’s not, I just make another account to entrap her in her lies (what’s $60 to buy a permanent break-up excuse?). Then I dump her right away or keep her as long as I want and when I’m tired of her BS I just say that I can’t go on with the arrangement because of the lies.

  486. Josh says:

    “Did I settle for less?” may be the most frequently asked question by a women in relationship.

    THAT is core reason why women sabotage their relationships. 😉

  487. Zack says:

    D Dubs, I’m not sure if it has been mentioned, but if you are viewing your SB’s profile, she can tell you are logging on, even if you have your timing blocked.

    Is this your first SB? In any case, she might settle down after a while. Talk, be gentle, keep to a budget that does not cause you stress.

    Think honey rather than vinegar.

    SB’s–when you were new, and you found a “good one” SD…were you satisfied (until the arrangement soured), or did you keep looking? Was it a matter of having a safety, or did you vaguely feel you might be settling for less than you might find if you kept trying?

  488. Kms2014 says:

    Hmm, yes..bone collector could be taken in two different contexts, I suppose,yes? Ehehe 😉

  489. Josh says:

    Of course you are jk with the “bone collector” reference, yes? 😉

  490. midwest sugar daddy says:

    I really enjoy reading this blog! As a new, fit 40 year old sugar daddy, this blog has been helpful.

    I have a decent arrangement with a 24 year old student who also works. I agree with the opinions on the sugar babies who constantly log in. There could be a multitude of reasons for it, but true trust must be suspended to a degree to be in this lifestyle as a SB or a SD. She may be looking for another SD, but if she bails, I will move on. My knowledge base is much higher now and I can move on to the next sexy coed with even more info on how to do it right.

    Lets face it, we all want a better deal. Most 20 something SB’s have a short attention span, hence the 3-6 month average sugar relationship duration. They also think that more is better. You have to accept that as a likely outcome due to the age group and emotional maturity. I think it is just part of the game. The numbers favor the SD in the end, as long as he is a good option with some real cash.

  491. Kms2014 says:

    Data collector is better than bone collecter, I guess? Data, on a SA blog…hmm, good luck with that endeavor, ehehe 😉 xx

  492. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    “Best practices for SDs : develop fetish for your women being with other men. It’s worth it ;)”

    That’s a great idea. 😉

    Other SDs, if any, don’t bother me.

    I am usually more concerned about a jealous fb/bf/fiance/husband, etc.

  493. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    As I am a data collector, I like to know these things. 😉

  494. Kms2014 says:

    Nothing like the frequency of a 22 year old Kazakh stud…sorry, reminiscing my dirty old pervert lady days 😉

  495. Kms2014 says:

    Who cares what they called her(and doubt she did, either) as long as she was likely getting very satisfied, in terms of frequency 😉 ehehehe!

  496. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB

    Do/did your neices call your sister a pervert or a cougar or something else? 😉

  497. DarkHorseSD says:

    “I can’t believe that the women at the Sugar party were acting like that. They are a bunch of spoiled entitled brats. But then I partially blame Brandon too, for marketing this party to college aged girls looking for men that are one foot out of the nursing home”

    Had a lot to do with why I didn’t travel 15 mins from my apartment to go. Now if I were promised something more than 5 hand picked college girls in VIP, I’d have bought a gold ticket.

    Seriously, I have increased my spending substantially lately to expand my search and experiment with other strategies. I fought an inner battle several times over buying a gold ticket, but there were things about the event that made me turn it down…even buying a “2 for 1” for $125 didn’t appeal.

    But SA isn’t created exclusively to entertain me.

  498. DarkHorseSD says:

    Best practices for SDs : develop fetish for your women being with other men. It’s worth it 😉

  499. SouthernSB says:

    @Gentle(man)soul
    I think that is a good deal for a SB. I think that a SB should be able to at least feed themselves and pay their rent and utilities before she gets in the game (not that I’m despairing the girls who need absolutely everything taken care of). I think sugar should be for extras and it should be fun. Sugar shouldn’t be a job, in any sense of the word. Prostitution is a job and SBs are not prostitutes. I like the idea of being exclusive due to the fact that you are you don’t have to worry about STDs and you can have a better relationship. I for one like talking to my SD on the phone (I don’t have a cell phone so I don’t text) and I like the anticipation of waiting till the next time I get to see him, that way the sexual energy builds up and then BAM it’s time to see my SD again!! Besides, I’m something of an introvert and I need my space. So even though I like being exclusive I don’t even ask that of my SD, just as long as he wears protection and he doesn’t talk my ear off about his other SBs.

  500. SouthernSB says:

    My sister is 54 and her boyfriend IRL (she doesn’t sugar, but I talk to her about everything) is 36 years old. My sister loves to go out with men that are much much younger than she is and just gave up dating 20 year olds in the last couple of years. It’s not because they stopped hitting on her it’s just because she got sick of listening to her daughters tell her that they were embarrassed, by her dating guys that were younger than they were. She actually gets hit on by guys who went to elementary school with her 21 year old daughter!!

  501. SouthernSB says:

    My former X-Box player was 11 years younger than I was. I had to get rid of him though, because he was costing me too much money. I was his SM without even knowing it. All I wanted from him was a summer fling and it turned out to be a four year journey of him eating my food, taking my money, sleeping in my bed and the last straw, taking what was suppose to be my car. I swear, the man is like a stray puppy, feed him and he never goes away. I see him sometimes, but I will not give him money and under no circumstances will I feed him nor let him stay the night. I don’t want to get sucked into his life again, he’s just too much for me to take and I don’t want to take care of anyone anymore, especially anyone that will cost me any money, with the exception of my family, of course.

  502. gentle(man)soul says:

    @ Beach Girl

    Richard~ I think some SDs want exclusivity, I think… not sure here, that it’s more about being the “only one” or something for some…but I could be wrong… an ego thing, you know?

    Exclusivity is valued as 1)affirmation that are good enough for each others’ needs and 2) protection from STDs. I demand Bareback of my Babies

    I seek out a Baby who’s needs are in line with what I can provide .

    Unless she gets greedy , I should be all she needs . I want her to be available when I want at the drop of a hat .Of course I factor in her work/school and family requirements. It IS a two way street . Being married I will have the more challenging schedule. I also want her to be at a place in life where she is working hard at a career or school, is too busy for an IRL BF and doesn’t want the hassles anyway ,makes enough money from parents or work to take care of her basics. I also determine that she is not a sex maniac. I will take care of her physical needs but don’t want her needs to exceed the frequency I can provide . If she needs sex every day she will collect SDs and have an IRL BF servicing her .If she needs money she will doing the same. I don’t want to catch some STD from her multiple partners. I come in to the relationship with neg STD screen and I expect the same back .

  503. Josh says:

    If the NY Post article and the rinser video I poasted in the previous article are any indication of the state of affairs in the sugar world, then these women are ipading their way to the bank. The most important thing is to be extra careful with your body fluid exhange, and play the field. If paranoid, then get tested before hitting the sack together. 😉

    I WOULD NOT worry about something I have NO CONTROL WHATSOEVER ON.

  504. SouthernSB says:

    @Elaine-I know how you feel, the blog is making me feel a little disheartened too. I don’t quite know why, but I might take a little break from it also. I’m going to send you a rough draft of my profile, or should I say what I have so far. My mail is dviv.dc@gmail com. Thank you for wanting to help me out.
    @Everyone-I can’t believe that the women at the Sugar party were acting like that. They are a bunch of spoiled entitled brats. But then I partially blame Brandon too, for marketing this party to college aged girls looking for men that are one foot out of the nursing home. I’m in my late 40’s and even I draw the line at men in untied orthopedic shoes. Heck, if I wanted that I could just chuck it in and date the men in my building. No I wouldn’t get as much money but then again what would I have to really do, with them in their walkers and wheelchairs. I don’t want to be with a guy that is going to remind me that one day my daughter is going to drag me off kicking and screaming to a home. That’s just depressing. Yes, I like men that are older than I am, but I at least want them to be in good health, after all how are they going to be able to keep up with me if they are going to bed at 8?

  505. Josh says:

    My favorite on 24hoursofhappy dot com is at 12:28. The girl could be great entertainer when she grows up.

    I think that they replaced to one from 1:16. I will have to find it where it went. LOL!

  506. DarkHorseSD says:

    “You do the same thing. Keep looking for an upgrade and tell her that if she is still looking you will too. Make it clear that she is easily replaceable if she insists on shopping for multiple daddies”

    “She’s extremely attractive and probably gets a lot of messages. She’s only been on the site a few months, so I’m sure there’s that curiosity factor to keep reading all these messages.”

    “And I have fought fire with fire and just decided to keep talking to other potential SBs myself and I’m debating meeting a new one this weekend.
    But I would prefer not to. I just figured I had to because despite what she said to me, she is likely doing the same thing. It’s almost like I want a backup plan in case she bails, and that is really not fair to the potential SB”

    Unfortunately there is rarely a way around playing some form of game. Stay focused and don’t delude yourself that something is innocent – it won’t be. Learn how you can work with it…and get more open at accepting it…and set your rules and boundaries.

  507. FatBastardSA says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    I think a woman can very easily get a guy 15 years younger to have sex with her. Getting an attractive guy who is 15 years younger to actually date her and/or give an allowance is another story.

  508. FatBastardSA says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    “Hi Honey! I’m home!

    Long night wading through the Pay Me for Booty Calls profiles.

    Bring me my slippers.”

    You make it sound like a bad thing. Where you expecting this to be a dating site or to find someone who wanted a relationship?

  509. FatBastardSA says:

    @D Dubs

    She is looking for a better deal. If you found a hotter SB who did everything you asked and wanted less you would drop your SB in a second. You have made no commitment to her in any meaningful way (an arrangement is not a commitment). If you manage to have a real relationship with her then things may change.

  510. DarkHorseSD says:

    Elaine, don’t leave the blog. You are the only SB capable of performing the miracle of getting a guy 15 years younger than you to have sex with you.

    We need that diversity of perspective and depth of talent.

  511. DarkHorseSD says:

    Hi Honey! I’m home!

    Long night wading through the Pay Me for Booty Calls profiles.

    Bring me my slippers.

  512. Beach_Girl says:

    Hello Sugars

    DDubs~ Hi, welcome back! Again, you always go looking to see if your potential SB is online, why does it matter? did you make the arrangement? Did you talk about not going on the site? Why are you going on the site, just to check up on her? WTF, lets all grow up a little… Communicate what you want, what you don’t want… it’s simple.

    Gentle~ If you have a SB, why would you go looking online for her? Did you communicate that you wanted to be exclusive? Did you ask why she logged in? So, if the only reason you are on loggin in is prospecting, why are you on there? maybe she is checking up on you just as you are on her?
    Communication…
    And yes, it is hard to find a great SD, but really, if he was spying on me and jealous of stupid things, I don’t think we would be a good match…I had a SD and he didn’t care if I was online or not… He knew I was on the blog and I didn’t hide if I did what ever… To me, communication is key.

    Richard~ I think some SDs want exclusivity, I think… not sure here, that it’s more about being the “only one” or something for some…but I could be wrong… an ego thing, you know?

  513. gentle(man)soul says:

    Richard
    With this talk of monogamy I have a question for those married SDs out there. Do you expect monogamy from your SB while you’re still having sex with your wife? And do your SBs ask about it or seem to care?

    Absolutely ! The double standard is alive and well . Most SDs active in the Sugar world have little to no sex with the SO . If sex was great we wouldn’t need to go elsewhere .

    Having said that the Baby is going to do what she is going to do . There is no way you can prevent it .The risk to her is that she could lose a good Gig with a Daddy she values .If I am paying a $3K allowance for a weekly visit and I find her on the site ,she’s gone . I don’t think it is that easy for SBs to find a good SD . Right Sugars ?

    There is no reason to be on the site unless you are prospecting -period . Curiosity is certainly there ,but that might need to be something she will have to seriously consider doing without if she wants your company (money)

  514. D Dubs says:

    I plan to see her a couple times a month, and for a long weekend at a time. Each visit includes an allowance.

  515. Richard says:

    With this talk of monogamy I have a question for those married SDs out there. Do you expect monogamy from your SB while you’re still having sex with your wife? And do your SBs ask about it or seem to care?

    I was seeing a married woman for a while and she still had occasional sex with her husband. But, according to her, it lasted about three minutes (no joke) about once a week and she said she just considered it a chore, never got any pleasure from it. I couldn’t have cared less.

    I wonder if it’s similar for you married SDs.

  516. gentle(man)soul says:

    @ D Dubs

    It sounds like you are a “trip Daddy” This is an occasional hookup for the trip that doesn’t involve a regular relationship . If you only take her somewhere once every month or two that certainly doesn’t qualify as a “relationship ” Just be glad you have a hottie to sleep with on your travels . On the other hand, if you plan to see her on a regular basis I think an arrangement and request for monogamy is reasonable .

  517. KatPaw says:

    @D Dubbs And I agree with flyR she could be searching for plan b if you poof. It happens. :-/

  518. KatPaw says:

    D Dubbs~ see yes you provided for that weekend but she had no clue if the future is a positive not at least till next meet is set in stone.

  519. flyR says:

    Most fathers of teen age girls have learned not to ask a question if they might not want to hear the answer and the information is not going to change the other party’s behavior.

  520. flyR says:

    “Thanks for the responses.
    I don’t think she notices that I am logging in because I have that info blocked on my profile. Is there another way? I also looked and she hasn’t “viewed my profile” in a long time.”

    I don’t know what your sport of choice is but most people do some window shopping, what woman doesn’t walk by a display of shoes and pause for a moment to see what’s there even if she has no interest in buying. I’ll look at wines, cars, guns, flyfishing gear, boats, airplanes and women with no intent to act.

    There’s also the checking of what’s there as an ego boost or plan B if you poof.

    And finally the prospect that you are simply one of a number of studs in the stable.

    Most all of us would prefer that we are the one and only. The 19 year old who rocked your world 30 minutes after meeting you is probably not too reserved about sex in the rest of her world, sugardaddys , casual hookups etc .

    I would far rather that she had another SD than be hanging out in the clubs of west Hollywood.

    D Dubs – “fighting fire with fire” by talking to others is not a solution if you are looking for an exclusive SB. Either work it out to a comfortable position or move on.

    As a general principle (rather than a rule) the SB involved for trinkets is far more likely to double up than is the serious student or single mother who each have a gap in their financial structure but also value the things they can experience in a sugar relationship.

  521. Richard says:

    @D Dubs – Ask yourself why it matters. She might be logging in out of curiosity or to simply read her messages. Every woman I’ve met on this site has shared entertaining stories about the strange, funny, or downright creepy messages she’s received. Maybe she just enjoys the attention.

    If you are halfway attractive, actually give her an allowance, and can carry on a conversation without leering (not to mention don’t wear orthopedic shoes, tied or untied) then you are probably in the most desirable 5% of men on SA.

    If her logging into the site bothers you, tell her that. But it just shouldn’t matter. She could be “cheating” on you with a live-in boyfriend, be married, go out and have unprotected sex with multiple partners on the 28 nights a month you aren’t together and you’d likely never know. In the scheme of things logging onto SA is pretty innocent. :)

  522. Josh says:

    After the first few days of curiosity, not many “regular” girls log on that frequently. The “players” would though.

    However, please keep the technical aspect of SA in mind as well. SA does not kick you out automatically after certain period of time. So I could be online all day long and only be checking the site only when I get a notification.

  523. D Dubs says:

    KatPaw,
    I believe the arrangement was started. I have provided an allowance for the one weekend vacation we’ve been together so far, and have plans for another soon. There was also frequent intimacy the first trip.

    I really only want one SB myself.

  524. D Dubs says:

    Josh, I want to be monogamous with her in an arrangement sense. It wouldn’t bother me if she were to date someone in her town closer to her age. We are about 15 years apart. As I said earlier, I’m still looking around because I don’t want to be the only monogamous one in the relationship

  525. KatPaw says:

    D Dubbs have you started the arrangement? As the saying goes don’t count your chicks till your eggs hatch! If in an arrangement I don’t log in unless I need to contact an old SD friend.. Or if it isn’t a solid agreement or if it “open”. I prefer to handle ( really only have time for) 1 SD.

  526. D Dubs says:

    Speaking of which, she must be awake for today because she just logged on again and is online again. Last time was around 1 am last night. Every. Waking. Hour. lol

    Yeah this could drive someone crazy. Doesn’t make sense to even look.

  527. Josh says:

    @D Dubs

    “I don’t think she notices that I am logging in because I have that info blocked on my profile.”

    Well, the only reason somone would block his/her login ststus is because they have something to hide. She has just not caught on to the technical side of SA.

    Are you monogamous with her?

  528. D Dubs says:

    And I have fought fire with fire and just decided to keep talking to other potential SBs myself and I’m debating meeting a new one this weekend.
    But I would prefer not to. I just figured I had to because despite what she said to me, she is likely doing the same thing. It’s almost like I want a backup plan in case she bails, and that is really not fair to the potential SB

  529. Josh says:

    @gentle

    You’re CORRECT. 😉 :)

  530. D Dubs says:

    Thanks for the responses.
    I don’t think she notices that I am logging in because I have that info blocked on my profile. Is there another way? I also looked and she hasn’t “viewed my profile” in a long time.

    I did kind of bring it up the last night of our trip. I asked that if we decided to keep getting together a couple times a month (with an allowance) would she continue to speak with or meet other guys, and she said “no”. Yet here she is “online now” and with continuous log in times all day and night.

    She’s extremely attractive and probably gets a lot of messages. She’s only been on the site a few months, so I’m sure there’s that curiosity factor to keep reading all these messages.

  531. gentle(man)soul says:

    D Dubs
    I just. met a great girl on the site on a weekend trip and we really hit it off.
    However, despite this, she is logging back onto this site all day long on nearly a bi hourly basis.

    Get used to it Bro . Most (not all ) SBs are out for all they can get .They will work multiple SDs to maximize their income . As Elaine said yesterday ,these young babies are with us “geezers” for one thing only -do-re-me .

    You will drive yourself crazy worrying about it and even if she says she will shut down her profile she can make a new one . My 1st SB did exactly that after she swore up and down that I was the only one .At the end I found out that she was working three guys telling us all the same thing.

    You do the same thing. Keep looking for an upgrade and tell her that if she is still looking you will too .Make it clear that she is easily replaceable if she insists on shopping for multiple daddies

  532. gentle(man)soul says:

    @ Josh

    “The only positive fucking reference was from Seeking Arrangement’s founder and CEO Brandon Wade, “a sugar daddy is a mentor, provider and gentleman.”

    Josh ,that’s because none of us studs were there !

  533. gentle(man)soul says:

    @ Josh

    “The only positive fucking reference was from Seeking Arrangement’s founder and CEO Brandon Wade, “a sugar daddy is a mentor, provider and gentleman.”

    Josh ,that’s because none of us studs were there !

    @DDubs

    Monogamy is a rare thing in the SugarBowl . I played the constant checking game with SB # 1 and eventually found her with a new name and profile . We had the discussion even but she was still looking for 3 2 ,3 ,and 4 . Many of these girls can’t resist the temptation to pad their bank accounts with
    easy money. My advice to you is forget monogamy . Delude yourself into thinking you are her one and only and you will be happier . Most of them cheat (not all ) and most of us do as well . As Elaine and others said above , these youngsters are with you for your money (and a free trip to where ever )

  534. flyR says:

    Tracking log on’s

    Paying members can “hide” their last log in , but there’s a way around that.

    Through a remarkable series of chance events I was able to match some data from the woman from the south at the party with a profile and exchange a couple of notes with her. My take was that she is probably very real and happened to find the needle in the haystack. No I am not going to ID her

  535. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    “I think it is getting time for me to retire from the blog…”

    Well, I don’t think that you are leaving anytime soon. 😉

  536. elaine says:

    @ Katpaw

    I feel I am getting bitter from the sweet.
    And I dont want to reflect this on the blog.

    As for personal reasons I can not leave sugar, I will leave the blog for this moment.
    That I had already decided this morning, before Zack’s post.

    Wish you all a lot of fun in Sugarland, and maybe I”ll come back again if again I feel to.
    For the moment I think I have shared everything on this blog that I felt to share.

    Ciao,

    Elaine xxx

  537. KatPaw says:

    @Tequila lmfao

  538. KatPaw says:

    Elaine I sure hope you don’t leave the blog!!! I love hearing your insight and experiences and opinions! If you do leave please email me to keep contact katiemcdstoybox at gmail

  539. JustATequilaSD says:

    @All
    OK, so I’m catching up on the new blog topic bear with me.

    re: 75 y.o. women
    “By ridiculing and reverse examples about a woman 40 years your major, I try to make you guys look upon it from the SB (female) point of view.”

    Males and females just don’t have the same point of view. I’d bang a 75 year-old woman just because she’s in the room, just because The Kraken wanted to, just so she can brag to her friends, or just so she can someday die happy. 😀

    And if she goes down on you, ask her to take her teeth out first, and then you hold on to something.

    Sometimes they get intimidated by me, and think they may break their hip when one of us climaxes.

    re: the Nashville girl from the article
    “I read the NY Post article. The girl pictured from Nashville is attractive, but unless she is double teaming her SD with her sister every night there is no fucking way she is getting $4K/month.”

    For 4k/month in Tennessee, I can get a better looking girl along with that girl’s sister, mother, and grandmother all at the same time with me and on video. Bad, I know, Jerry Springer bad.

    re: bringing your sb to the event
    “He’s prospecting for another baby to add to his collection . And she gets to as well .”
    She’s helping him find her replacement and doesn’t even realize.

  540. Elaine says:

    @ Zack

    You are right.
    I think it is getting time for me to retire from the blog…

  541. Zack says:

    Sorry about that last website link. I’ve not used this computer in a while, and didn’t notice the old spam before submitting.

    Pay no attention. fnord

  542. Zack says:

    Gently, Sir. We’ve become so strident that people seeking advice rather than pushing rhetoric have become as rare as… respect? friendly sugar? honesty?

    DarkHorse: I like you. No allowance asked 😛 Hope you meet someone special again. Someone attractive to you and trustworthy. But if special were common, you’d probably raise your expectations 😀

    Elaine, DH, want to kiss and make up? 😛

  543. DarkHorseSD says:

    Dubs: get even…keep logging in over and over…if that doesn’t break her, text and stuff a lot with your phone next time you are together.

  544. DarkHorseSD says:

    “I think the venue and program was tuned to bring out the SB’s who most trade on their appearance and the SD’s who rely on their wallet. A match made in heaven.”

    OR,

    The SBs who trade on their disappearance and the SDs who relinquish their wallets. A match made in Hell.

  545. Elaine says:

    @ D Dubs

    Talk about it with her!!

    It might bother her and it will end , or it is for sure going to bother you and it will equally end.
    Be both clear about mutual expectations and it might last.

    Maybe she sees you logging in and has the same thoughts?
    If you want her to be exclusive, propose this.
    Being exclusive doesn’t neccessary mean “strings” in Sugarland it is just an agreement with a pricetag on it.

    I know it is not easy discussing these things, but only being upfront from te beginning will make these kind of relationships last.

  546. Josh says:

    @D Dubs
    “What do you all think about this?”

    I think that the only way to know if an SB is logging on bi hourly basis is by logging in on a regular basis. 😉

  547. D Dubs says:

    Quick question –
    I just. met a great girl on the site on a weekend trip and we really hit it off. We’ve made plans to do another trip in a couple weeks. We text frequently since but sporadically. I really like her and we decided to move forward with a continuing arrangement.

    However, despite this, she is logging back onto this site all day long on nearly a bi hourly basis. I know these relationships don’t come with strings, but this is really bothering me. I don’t want to bring it up for risk of ruining what we have started.

    What do you all think about this?

  548. Eloquence says:

    Ohhhh, no one to get their panties in a wad..lol.. I was just teasing.

    I would fly my Unicorn in through the drive through for Java Juice too!

  549. Beach_Girl says:

    FBSD~ 1k for coffee… I would do that lol… I don’t think that it works that way though… lol… And I am not that cute!!! lol

  550. FatBastardSA says:

    @Beach_Girl

    I never said they looked bad. I think they look nice in fact. Looking nice and being given $4K/month or $1K for a coffee date are very different things in my book.

  551. flyR says:

    I think the venue and program was tuned to bring out the SB’s who most trade on their appearance and the SD’s who rely on their wallet. A match made in heaven.

  552. Beach_Girl says:

    Hello sugars 😀

    FBSD~ I don’t think they look bad the SBs in the pics… I am sure there are some SBs that look good… I look like my photos, I think?

    Josh~ lol… are all SBs not pretty? thanks :( lol

  553. Sasha says:

    Woah, orthopedic shoes and silver haired men flying around the room like Zorro with masks made out of pantyhose?…..Sounds like my kinda party LOL 😉

  554. Josh says:

    @Eloquence

    Say what?

  555. Eloquence says:

    That’s right guys… everyone cannot be flawless and immaculate to the porn fetish envy now can they? Imagine you spending your hard earned money on making a woman look flawless for another man’s gain of modelesk unattainable perception of nympho mainiac class… The idea alone… “oh my”

  556. Josh says:

    Correction: the American journalists have a persistent idiotic fetish of trying to “balance” their coverage.

  557. Josh says:

    @FatBastardSA

    You are correct. The photos of the SBs are not that enticing, and none of the SDs are kicking themselves to have missed the event.

    That said, the American journalists a persistent idiotic fetish of trying to “balance” their coverage.

    I would have been OK if this stupid reporter had attempted to balance her coverage and had mentioned that “by the way, there were some decent looking men” and/or “by the way, there were not so hot looking women in the crowd.”

    But NO, men must be demonized and women must be put on pedestal. That’s how the media rolls at current times. :(

  558. FatBastardSA says:

    @Josh

    To be fair the SD’s at the event may have been as bad as the story portrays. The SB in the photo is not exactly supermodel material either.

    What is surprising is not the hatchet job that they did on the SA party but that the SA team actually link to the story like it provides a good image for either SD’s or SB’s. I suppose as long as the $3K/month and $1K/lunch theme is in print Brandon Wade figures it is good publicity.

  559. Josh says:

    “the female logic prone to justify just about anything and everything”

    Hmmm…;)

  560. Josh says:

    My favorites on 24hoursofhappy dot com are at 12:28 and 1:16

  561. Josh says:

    @Eloquence

    As usual, I have no clue what you mean. 😉

  562. Eloquence says:

    @ Josh

    If it were not for the lovers of this life, what joys amongst sorrow would arise in our memories?

    Yes, I compare men to stallions and yes, any age of a man’s heart is still as young as the days as when he was still sprouting.

    Now, where are all the gentleman who view the un-polished ladies the same favor? And for one fine gem of a mare or one you will to polish… how many more fillies or mares are in the stable in heat?

    Do the young co-eds believe that if his hair be white that he can truly see no farther than his spectacles will allow?

    My dears, what life ever worth living has been worth living without “tender attachment”?

    Would we need a Super Hero if there were no villain?

  563. Josh says:

    I still can’t get over the fucking article from fucking New York fucking Post.

    Every fucking reference to men was fucking demeaning and every fucking reference to women was that of fucking entitlement. Check this out:

    All female references:

    1. “Dolled-up co-eds”
    2. “The 21-year-old junior, in a red dress and platinum heels”
    3. “A brunette danced with the elderly man with orthopedic shoes, but when he leaned in for a smooch, she turned her cheek.”
    4. “ seasoned sugar babies”
    5. “I haven’t found one that’s attractive to me, and my standards aren’t that high,” said a 25-year-old co-ed who traveled from Nashville with her longtime sugar daddy.”
    6. “The blond Army soldier said her 59-year-old benefactor — who was diagnosed with terminal cancer — pays $4,000 a month for both her and her sister’s living expenses.”
    7. “I grew up with money. I’m not a poor person,” the woman sniffed. “My parents still give me money, but only a certain allowance.”
    8. “She said a businessman from Dubai gave her $1,000 to have coffee with him at a Times Square Starbucks. She sees a 40-something man who gives her $400 to $800 every time they hang out. It never goes beyond kissing, she said.”
    9. “she said, holding up a Louis Vuitton bag.”
    10. “I like luxury. It doesn’t matter what age they are.”

    All male references:

    1. “a short, balding gentleman with a gourd-shaped nose”
    2. “two geezers in black suits — one shuffling around in untied orthopedic shoes.” As per Urban Dictionary, “In the U.S.: An old man, particularly one who is either cranky or eccentric. Rather derogatory term.”
    3. “a graying widower from Chicago.”
    4. “I’m not going to downgrade to some NYU boy who buys dollar beers.”
    5. “older, wealthier men”
    6. “Two slick-haired guidos didn’t bother with masks or suits, opting for jeans and button-down shirts.” According to Urban Dictionary “A sad pathetic excuse for a male; not necessarily of Italian descent, but most likely; usually native to the New York/New Jersey Tri-State area.”
    7. “One white-haired man flitted about the room like Zorro with a mask made from pantyhose.”
    8. “As the night wore on, the sugar daddies began groping women in plain view.”
    9. “A 50-something man in a gray blazer felt up a girl’s neck before grabbing her behind.”
    10. “When one Bronx gal broke the ice with another silver fox, he sniffed, “Oh, no, I want a girl from Manhattan,” and turned away.”
    11. “elderly man with orthopedic shoes, but when he leaned in for a smooch, she turned her cheek.”
    12. “I haven’t found one that’s attractive to me, and my standards aren’t that high,” said a 25-year-old co-ed who traveled from Nashville with her longtime sugar daddy.
    13. ”59-year-old benefactor — who was diagnosed with terminal cancer”
    14. “He tries so hard to make me happy,” she said. “He’s going to be my No. 1 sugar daddy until he goes.”

    The only positive fucking reference was from Seeking Arrangement’s founder and CEO Brandon Wade, “a sugar daddy is a mentor, provider and gentleman.”

    This is the fucked up state of pop culture to demean men. To what fucking end?

  564. Eloquence says:

    However… I would like to go to one of the parties…. I s’pose I’m just jealous…

  565. Eloquence says:

    @ Katpaw

    WOW on the article is right…

    I am laughing so hard tears are streaming down my face about the masked man who paraded the room with a mask made from pantyhose!!!

    Its like a MasterCard commercial and then in the distance you see the masked man jump off furniture to see them say “priceless”.

    Duhn dunna duhhhhhhh!!!!

  566. KatPaw says:

    @josh Double edged sword there are the men that pretend to be “SDs” and the entitled snot wannabes playing at “SB” so each true SD and SB runs the risk of being “burned”. Proper screening helps prevent this. I personally hate having to “ask” for something and talking $.. I like “A lady never makes first offer”

  567. SunShineSD says:

    The typical attractive SB’s are surrounded by voices hostile to the SD: her female friends are putting down her liason out of jealousy (only a tiny fraction of women have the natural capital to attract real SD’s, simply because only a tiny fraction of all men can afford to play), and her male friends are telling her to ditch the SD so they can get into her pants. . . combined with the female logic prone to justify just about anything and everything (ref: the earlier “teach him a lesson” from even a respected blog SB), the temptation for an SB to flake out is enormous.

    Not trying to justify her con-artist behavior, but these are the perspectives from her POV that I can think of.

  568. Josh says:

    KatPaw

    I believe that you and other female blogers are decent SBs for the SDs of your liking.

    However, historically whenever an SD has brought rouge SB behavior on the on blog he has been told that he must have caused the SB to behave that way.

  569. KatPaw says:

    @Josh re “rinseres” yeah equally if not more disturbing.. I get where all the good SDs get jaded by entitled little ….. See to me it’s more then money and sex ( yes it plays a part!)
    If I don’t enjoy being with someone no amount of money would make me do it. I actually do like older men always been attracted to them.. Lol when I was 21 I had the hottest thing with a gent who was in his late 40s. No sugar involved.. Lol

  570. DarkHorseSD says:


    “He tries so hard to make me happy,” she said. “He’s going to be my No. 1 sugar daddy until he goes.”

    See the sisters aren’t even exclusive, so this is also a mission to bring home secondary daddies. What are they taking in in total per month from all daddies? Can they replace Cancer Man’s 4k when he croaks?

  571. DarkHorseSD says:

    Did she travel with the SD? Isn’t he on his death bed? Isn’t she just using the 4k/month from cancer guy to pay for the scouting trip to NYC to upgrade and possibly relocate to the big show?

    Why isn’t 4k enough to fund her sister’s trip too? Well sister can go to next event.

  572. gentle(man)soul says:

    @ Josh

    ” SB travelling to a sugar event with her SD? What’s up with this picture?”

    The family that cheats together eats together –or something like that. He’s prospecting for another baby to add to his collection . And she gets to as well .

  573. Josh says:

    “I haven’t found one that’s attractive to me, and my standards aren’t that high,” said a 25-year-old co-ed who traveled from Nashville with her longtime sugar daddy.

    SB travelling to a sugar event with her SD? What’s up with this picture? 😉

  574. gentle(man)soul says:

    @ Elaine

    EWWWW ! Sex with a SM 40 yrs my senior –gross, disgusting !! She would be 100 + and a bag of bones . But ——if she ponied up $5 K/Month —welllll–$10 K , then I could do the deed once/week ,or at least tell her we did it . Dementia has it’s advantages .

  575. DarkHorseSD says:

    I think Ms. Nashville is hot too. Blog time stamps prove I saw her first.

  576. Elaine says:

    @ Darkhorse

    “would you grab the money and run, if that possibility was presented on a silver blatter?
    The word is out …”

    Looked like you presented it as my advice to SB.

    Never mind.
    Misunderstanding probably.

    I am here to chatter a little about the diverse Sugar experience, I don’t pretend to be “Dear Abby”! :-)

  577. Josh says:

    The talk about women wanting more or as much sex than men is nothing but positioning as far as majority of women are concerned.

    Yes, a small number of women are nympho, and that’s understandable. But a majority of women need a reason to have sex.

    To hold down a 20-something as a trophy bf to stand tall among gfs is a reason to submit to his sexual needs.

    The laundry list of reasons could be profound to fickle but there has to be a reason. 😉

  578. Josh says:

    The current laws in the western world are not conducive to happily ever after from men’s vantage point. They are better of with the sugar illusion rather than the marriage illusion.

    It is the same lot of women whether you arrange with them against a smaller portion of your net worth for a controllable period of time OR against 50% of your net worth and 100% of time subjugation in the case of marriage.

  579. DarkHorseSD says:

    @ATM: I’m rich and I’m depressed because no one will like me no matter how much money I give them

    The above is punctuated by lol

  580. DarkHorseSD says:

    Elaine, you didn’t present that as advice and I didn’t present it as your advice.

    Have you given any advice since the get even idea?

  581. Josh says:

    @KatPaw

    Did you see the rinsers video I posted in the last article. They were equally ungrateful. :(

    @All

    I have no problem with handling illusions in terms of why EXACTLY 20 year-olds are hooking up with me.

    Since i am an empirical kinda guy, what I am trying to get a hanle on is what kind of “relationship” I should expect with SBs after I refuse to give them the arrangement amount in advance when they ask for it.

    SD’s input is the most valuable.

  582. Elaine says:

    @ Bastard

    Reminds me of the extremely wealthy Pot I was once talking to, with an incredible, extremely long wishlist.

    We had nice Skype conversations and he was very interested and said I was exactly what he was looking for. After having been only with young SB so far, I was presentable to his family, friends and businesspartners, and that was what he was looking for at his age, being in his 50ies now.
    Then we came to discuss allowance (what I normally never discuss, but he pushed for an amount)
    When I told him, he exclaimed in real amazement that for this money he could get two 20 year olds!

    Well, be my guest, go get yourself two 20 year olds then!
    Being so rich and then wanting to save on the cost of a life partner (it was supposed to be a live in arrangement)
    …Really?

    It was a year ago, and he is still searching, wonder were the two 20 y. olds have gone *LOL*

  583. Elaine says:

    @ Katpaw

    Yes they are indeed!
    But hey, remember also the untied orthopedic shoes they had to support! 😉

    @ Bastard

    If your calculations were the right ones, at my age I should pay my SD an allowance!

  584. Kms2014 says:

    “FatBastardSA says:
    May 8, 2014 at 9:06 am
    @Kms2014

    If a rich guy told me he was depressed because he did not know if people only liked him for his money I would tell him to shut up and be happy that anyone liked him at all.

    Both SD’s and SB’s think they can handle the illusion, only the strong survive!”

    You are very right about this, FB…it takes a strong person(emotionally) to handle this world, I think…not for the weak of heart 😉

  585. Kms2014 says:

    “FatBastardSA says:
    May 8, 2014 at 9:11 am
    @Kms2014

    Correction: She is double teaming her SD with her sister every night OR her SD is the second ugliest man on SA. I take first place on that one.”

    Hey, that is why SA is so great…there is someone for everyone, and if you wouldn’t pay her $4,000, then there is obviously someone who does want to(sans, triple teams at play, I would guess, too 😉

  586. Kms2014 says:

    “Zack says:
    May 8, 2014 at 8:55 am
    If a sugar relationship is an illusion, is a martial one a reality?”

    If the marriage is based on mutual respect, true friendship and love, common interests, lifelong goals(or, at least goals beyond 3-6 months) and not just an arrangement for money(that typically lasts for only 3-6 months as many state as the average SD/SB relationship on here), then I would say, yes, this marriage example I just gave is based on reality, more than an average sugar relationship. Of course, many sugar relationships have these same attributes, but would they have happened, if money were not involved?
    Are they building a life and family together(excluding SunshineSD and his sperm bank, of course).

    This is just a generalisation and my opinion….or, is it my illusion of reality 😉 ahahaha!

  587. FatBastardSA says:

    @Kms2014

    Correction: She is double teaming her SD with her sister every night OR her SD is the second ugliest man on SA. I take first place on that one.

  588. FatBastardSA says:

    @Kms2014

    If a rich guy told me he was depressed because he did not know if people only liked him for his money I would tell him to shut up and be happy that anyone liked him at all.

    Both SD’s and SB’s think they can handle the illusion, only the strong survive!

  589. KatPaw says:

    I couldn’t believe how shallow and ungrateful the “SB”s in the NY Post were! Wow entitled much? Eww

  590. Kms2014 says:

    FB, you seem to have a very one dimensional viewpoint on how sugar relationships should work, or be paid. Just like in regular dating, ‘one man’s trash is another man’s treasure’…one SD’s $4,000 SB(maybe, very intelligent and can perform very well), might be another SD’s opinion of a $1,500 a month SB(only based on looks alone).

  591. FatBastardSA says:

    I read the NY Post article. The girl pictured from Nashville is attractive, but unless she is double teaming her SD with her sister every night there is no fucking way she is getting $4K/month.

  592. Zack says:

    If a sugar relationship is an illusion, is a martial one a reality?

    Was Monica Lewinsky a Sugar Baby?

    Does what the Clintons do matter to her?

    Why am I asking rhetorical questions?

  593. Kms2014 says:

    Some think they can handle the illusion, then, sometimes, I got the questions from a couple of past SD ‘what is in this for you’?, ‘why are you really with me?’ ‘Is this real, would you do this if the money were not in the picture?’ They were very smart, intelligent men…but, could they truly accept the illusion? I would say, some ‘think’ they can going into this world, but what happens when the reality comes to fruition, is another story…then, this might become a harsh reality, versus a soft illusion for some who are not prepared for the consequences. I am all for this illusion, just do not let it, or your ego interfere with
    what it really is most times…

  594. FatBastardSA says:

    @Elaine

    No SD that I have met has expressed surprise that a SB does not find them very attractive. If a SB did find the SD very attractive then there would be no arrangement and she would not be a SB. A woman who skips meetings, does a hit and run is a con artist and not a SB.

  595. Elaine says:

    @ Bastard

    You are right, and as long as the drive is fun and they don’t complain about the price and high fuel expenses it should be ok, no?

    But don’t drive a Porsche and get shocked if it consumes more fuel as a Smart because you preferd to fool yourself it wouldn’t. Choose the right car!

  596. Elaine says:

    @ Darkhores

    It is easy to cut and paste part of my text and present it as bad advice to SB and to underline your own statement.

    But you know very well that I am very, very much against these SB practices!

    Just acting as the Devils advocate for SD being surprised by these unsympathetic hit and run practices.

    By ridiculing and reverse examples about a woman 40 years your major, I try to make you guys look upon it from the SB (female) point of view.

    Just to make it clear, without approving of this behavior!!

  597. FatBastardSA says:

    @Elaine

    Most people who drive expensive sports cars have never driven these cars to their full potential and don’t have the ability to do so. They are still fun to drive.

    @gentle(man)soul

    Well said!

  598. Elaine says:

    You pay a price, and as long as that price is in line with your expectations it should be ok I guess..

  599. Elaine says:

    @ Gentleman

    It is ok to live in an illusion, that is what Sugar is about, isn’t it?
    You are one who at least is very upfront and realistic about it. :-)

    But just don’t be too surprised when those SB’s hit and run when they get the chance.
    How unforgivable their behaviour might be in my eyes!!

    My statements were a (harsh) counterpart to the surprise often exposed by blog SD, about their SB not being into sex, hit and run, trying to skip meetings etc.

  600. DarkHorseSD says:

    “The women at the party were “rinsers.”

    The level of lack of appreciation of what they get from SDs is appalling to say the least.”

    In NYC all women are having money shot at them from fire hoses and have no need to appreciate, respect or reciprocate.

    What am I looking for exactly? I’ve spent so much time not finding anything worthwhile, I can’t even think about what I might be looking for.

    “would you grab the money and run, if that possibility was presented on a silver blatter?”

    The word is out and these websites are stacked with con artists fleecing men browbeaten into chumming for chics. There is a sucker born every minute…no need put up with a savvy experienced mark.

  601. gentle(man)soul says:

    con’t : Some older gents are hotter and fitter than many young ,age appropriate guys . I’ve heard that more than once from SBs singing their love song after an enjoyable session . Illusion ? Who cares

  602. gentle(man)soul says:

    @ Elaine

    ” Well If you want to bang young hotties when in your 50 or 60 ies, you will have to accept that they are doing this only for the money, not because they find you irresistible. So if they find a way to get your money WITHOUT having sex with you, you shouldn’t be too surprised I think. That’s the price you are paying.

    Illusion my darlings ! I am happy with the illusion that these hotties are with me because of my sexual prowess,dashing good looks ,debonair demeanor . Not to mention a few bucks . My Favorite SB was uncomfortable with me in public because of the societal prejudice , but clearly loved our time together . Or she was a great actress . Either way she made me feel good about us .

    You see Elaine , our egos are such that we cannot fathom the possibility that our girls don’t find us amazing .

    And the bottom line ,we are not looking for a wife , we are looking for a young hot girl who acts like she thinks we are THE BOMB.

    And ,don’t discount the possibility that some of us older gents are fit,

  603. Elaine says:

    SD I meant of course..

  604. Elaine says:

    @ KMS

    Or dancing and kissing with a SB with “Untied orthopedic shoes”.
    Gosh…immagine his underwear!
    I guess white rib cotton *LMAO* :-)))))

  605. Elaine says:

    @ KMS

    Wahaha, good example, you just made my point! *LOL*

  606. Kms2014 says:

    I might be banned for this,but cannot resist…hehe, imagine fondling a 65 year old woman’s breasts…now, imagine this poor 22 year old woman, having to fondle the saggy balls of 65 year old man, ehehe!

  607. Richard says:

    Anyone think the NY Post article might be more accurate than the SA spin? :)

    I really hate to see the two biggest sugar myths promulgated (by Brandon Wade, apparently): (1) sugar without sex is commonplace; (2) the “average” allowance is $3000/month. I understand it’s just marketing, and his business is based on attracting as many ignorant hot young coeds as possible (thereby attracting as many SDs looking to bang hot young coeds) but there’s a better approach that would be more profitable. 😉

  608. Elaine says:

    @ Josh

    No, it is NEVER justified!
    But it happens too often, and there must be reasons, thinking all SB are just evil is too simple in my opinion.
    And I didn’t say you or Gentle are that old! I was talking in general.

    As I just used the 75y. woman as an example, to try to clear my point.
    Just try to remember when you were 20, and how old a 60 y old looked?

  609. Kms2014 says:

    Watch ‘Harold and Maude’, Joshy Woshy 😉

  610. Kms2014 says:

    “@Kms2014

    And your answer to the rhetorical question is? ”

    Hypothetically, if someone called me ‘pervert’ for dating a man 15 years younger than me…then I would laugh and say, ‘why, yes I am…a dirty old lady me is’, eheheh! Once again, though, I do prefer my age or older….

    However….Elaine has a good point…let’s say, when I am 50 or 60, this scenario of a 22 or 23 year old that I dated, at 37, is now much different ballgame, in my opinion, in terms of my later age, at 50 or 60….At 50 or 60, he is 28 to to almost 40 years younger than me….so, yes, I think this would definitely raise eyebrows and this older me might get called worse than ‘dirty old woman’ or ‘pervert’. It isn’t as much the norm for this type of thing for much older women to be with men that young–would be very taboo…but might also put things in perspective, from a young 20 something girls reluctance to want to
    have sex with a 50 or 60 year old men…just saying….

  611. Josh says:

    @Elaine, 75 is not the average male age here. SA claims it to be low 40s. I guess that the real average in 50s after correcting for the possible misrepresentation of age.

    And neither me nor gentle are far from SA’s (or my) average SD age.

    You can’t tell me that men in their 40s and 50s are so unattractive that running away with small amounts of money, at the expense of an on-going windfall, is justified.

  612. KatPaw says:

    Wow just read the NY post article.. Wow..

  613. Elaine says:

    @ Josh

    But the whole discussion started with the question why SB’s hit and run for as few as a week, or month allowance?
    I was a little provocative by using the “P” word, but I think that shouldn’t overshadow the fact.

    If you were, let’s say 35, would you have sex for money with a 75 y. old woman?
    Would you be eager to go down on her and jump her bones of?
    Or would you grab the money and run, if that possibility was presented on a silver blatter?

    ** ATTENTION, I AM NOT SAYING THIS BEHAVIOUR IS OK!!! **
    (Because you should avoid finding yourself in a situation where you need to have sex with whoever, if only for money)

    Just a retorical question…

    Already partly answered by the NYP article about the party.

  614. Elaine says:

    @ Josh

    It would be exactly the same.

  615. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    And your answer to the rhetorical question is? 😉

  616. Josh says:

    @FatBastardSA,

    I believe in freedom of choice and association. 😉

  617. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD says:

    “…she isn’t due to contact you for another 1.3 weeks. Stop being such a stalker.”

    @Gentle, since you are out already and not grtting that money back do you mind playing it along and see what category of allowance your SB justifies that money for. I am guessing she is going to categorize it as a “gift”, but I want to get the empirical data from you. 😉

  618. Josh says:

    @elaine

    “@ Josh and FB

    My answer about cougars/pervs in prior blog topic.”

    And what was my rhetorical question? 😉

  619. Josh says:

    Finally read the NY Post article.

    The women at the party were “rinsers.”

    The level of lack of appreciation of what they get from SDs is appalling to say the least.

  620. FatBastardSA says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    What are you looking for exactly?

  621. elaine says:

    @ Zack

    A tuxedo and ” Untied orthopedic shoes”
    OMG, can somebody give me his profilenumber please ?
    Sounds irresistible to me ! 😉

  622. Zack says:

    Ok, so I read the NY Post article…and I’m thinking, “I wonder if the author is single?” heheheh

  623. DarkHorseSD says:

    @ATM: If I could just find value for what I’m paying, but I don’t feel I’m getting it anymore. What else she does I care little.

    However, what else she does impacts on what value she has available to provide. There is the interaction.

  624. elaine says:

    @ Josh and FB

    My answer about cougars/pervs in prior blog topic.

  625. FatBastardSA says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    “Josh, what good is getting a 10k allowance from an sd you meet at the party when you don’t have a security guard or bartender to buy Xbox games for?”

    An interesting topic I have thought about in an attempt to rationalize my own shortcomings :-).

    Should a SD care that a SB would sleep with him to support an XBox playing BF. The XBox playing BF uses charm/good looks to get the girl while the SD uses his financial ability to get the girl. We all have strong and weak points we use to survive. You could argue that the SB loves the BF and not the SD but I would wager that deep down (so deep that most would never admit it), the SB would like the XBox playing BF to be more like the SD in many ways so even the love trump card is not so clear cut.

    As long as the SB is keeping up her end of the arrangement who cares where the allowance goes.

  626. DarkHorseSD says:

    Prior blog:

    “I just advanced my Current SB one month’s Sugar since she was in need . Gone ! Its going on 3 weeks now and I haven’t heard from her . Quiet as a church mouse .”

    Idiot, she isn’t due to contact you for another 1.3 weeks. Stop being such a stalker.

  627. DarkHorseSD says:

    Have you read that article! Oh wow.

    I’d like to hear about that Bronx girl that got jilted. I might be on her like Putin on Crimea.

  628. DarkHorseSD says:

    Josh, what good is getting a 10k allowance from an sd you meet at the party when you don’t have a security guard or bartender to buy Xbox games for?

  629. Kms2014 says:

    “@KatPaw,

    Let’s keep it simple. The woman is in her 40s/50s and the guy is in his 20s. Is the woman a pervert or a cougar? ”

    If the guy is her sugar daddy, then would call her a sugar baby :-p Hush up little boy, let sugar mama baby come and teach you about life and love.

  630. Josh says:

    Come to think of it, all kidding aside, I would love to find out if any of those beautiful young women indeed went home with one of the security guards or bartenders.

  631. Josh says:

    “Even the security guards and bartenders of Yotel were impressed, and said they’d love to host another Seeking Arrangement event, and it wasn’t just because they got hit on by beautiful women.”

    I guess those women did not get the correct memo. Those few hours were reserved for hitting on the 6 to 7-figure earning SDs and not on the security guards and bartenders, hello? 😉

  632. Josh says:

    Also, the question is not what any one of us thinks of those women as pervert or not.

    The rhetorical question is that if tomorrow morning anyone who used to call them “cougars” starts calling them “perverts”, then what will be the effect of that change on the cougars/perverts? 😉

  633. Josh says:

    @KatPaw,

    Let’s keep it simple. The woman is in her 40s/50s and the guy is in his 20s. Is the woman a pervert or a cougar? 😉

  634. KatPaw says:

    My personal feeling is if they are under 18 ( and that’s pushing it I really feel more around 21) whether your and older man or woman.. You’re a pervert. Lol but besides that hey what ever floats your boat! 😉

  635. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question: What would be the effect of calling older women who go after younger guys pervert instead of cougar? 😉

  636. Josh says:

    These “masksb are sure hiding their identities. Totally discrete. 😉

  637. aliceS says:

    Oh my. Those ladies look so good at the party. If I compare me and them I have no problem finding 10 difference between the two pictures :(( arrggghhh I need a serious “pimp my ride” thing I guess

  638. Zack says:

    Any ideas on the next one? Would some be welcome? 😀

  639. KatPaw says:

    Woohoo lol

  640. Josh says:

    Virgin blog. Finally! 😉

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