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Traveling Etiquette for Sugar Babies

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Around the time we launch MissTravel.com, we realized one thing: Sugar Daddies love bringing their Babies on vacation with them. And why wouldn’t they? What man doesn’t love vacationing with arm candy at his beck and call.

But it’s not all fun in the sand. Just like traveling to outside the country, every Sugar Baby must be equipped with proper etiquette tips when it comes to traveling with a Sugar Daddy. “Sometimes you’ve got to dance with the one that brung ya.”

Leave the Attitude at Home

Okay. So maybe Daddy Warbucks decided to book the trip to Aruba during the middle of finals, but remember that it was your choice to come along. Keep the attitude in check and try to enjoy trip. You’re already there.

Understand the Purpose of Your Trip

If your Sugar Daddy brings you to Hong Kong while working on a merger, 9 times out of 10 you will only see him for dinners and after work. Try to plan an itinerary that matches his, that way you won’t feel abandoned with nothing to do except get massages, facials, and room service—wait, that is not too shabby either.

Be D.T.E.

That’s not a typo. Unfortunately, a large number of younger Sugar Babies would rather shop or get massages versus going on a hike or zip lining. Be Down To Explore. Trust me, your Sugar Daddy will be ever grateful that he brought you.

Now that you know, what are you waiting for? Grab you Sugar Daddy and vacation in the lap of luxury!

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  2. Well I’m pretty new to this and I have specifics that I need and want with my Sd just like I’m sure he does too. Now when you run across a guy who is only wanting sex.. after their profile is way different than I’m pretty pissed once we start our agreement. And it ends up as nothing. Why ca nt their be a SD that’s willing to be whst he is supposed to be? Is it so hard to find a man to hang out bond and have perks while I’m getting my needs taken care of too? Don’t say something about yOu can do tHis n that n not hold up to ur end. I want to be respected and not lied to. There is just maybe a small chance you will get what your looking for being a SB. Doesn’t anyone else think once u make an arrangement it should be held in order the way it was discussed? And yes discretion and honesty should be held reardless. Some people have other lives and are looking for that extra help and a new friend. #ranting

  3. WCSD says:

    @SkinnyDarling – It is amusing to think that he could ever be turned that way, and I’d be shocked if it came from the sugar realm! I quite like FB. He reminds me of talking in a locker room after hockey….no filter. And that is a good reason why men and women get dressed in different rooms in sports! Are there people who are sensitive to it? Absolutely, and I completely agree that his personality (and goal on the blog) is to bring that out. I find it amusing that people don’t learn to ignore people who are just trying to push their buttons….but that isn’t new, in life, or even on this blog. Hell it was happening long before FB joined us! Keep up the good work FB!

  4. London Girl says:

    He is an equal opportunities FatBastard, he just needs the lurve of a good (or bad) woman to bring out the inner SkinnyDarling…

  5. Jersey Darling says:

    Hello London!

    Rosie, I agree with you but I’m looking at the whole picture of the way things were presented and I’m not buying it 😉 I tend to call out trolls quickly on here and I haven’t been wrong yet…

    FatBastard may have a bit of snark, but I quite like him as well. He makes nasty comments about everyone equally.

  6. London Girl says:

    @Spicey, we’ll agree to differ then, Personally I think he’s really funny but then I’m not a particularly sensitive soul myself.

    In the UK it would be typical blokey pub humour and anyone who got offended by it would be considered a bit uptight.

    But there you are, two nations divided by a common language…

  7. SugarySpicey says:

    London – sometimes they are jokes, and designed to elicit response, but occasionally they show an underlying poor opinion of the women he dates, and/or an assumption that all of us on the blog are a bunch of useless Cee U Next Tuesdays with only sex to offer the world. As for his opinion that we’re hookers, that comes out in his subtext all the time.

  8. London Girl says:

    Lo, maybe you’re just being a little over-sensitive towards him and his remarks? I tend to take them as being purposely designed to elicit a response from those of a sensitive disposition, most of them are fairly tongue-in-cheek.

    You might want to work on that before you move to Spain, Europeans have a tendency towards being a lot blunter than Americans.

  9. Rosie says:

    @Jersey

    I don’t really care about verifying Micah, but I can say from my experience, not EVERY pot SD who is willing and able to fly a pot SB into his city for dinner is expecting intimacy. It’s very, very rare, I know. Especially now with the death toll rising of the types of SDs who used to sign up for SA when it was new. But I do believe they are still out there.

  10. Lo says:

    London maybe you don’t know the back story and have conveniently ignored the umpteenth condescending comment FB has made towards us females on here but I have no desire to go back and prove anything to you..wish there was a mute button somewhere…

    Sugary I’ll be moving there in the fall, so essited for tapas. And good luck on the date tomorrow night..

  11. lil_tm says:

    “@lil_tm, maybe with your carpet munching experience you could learn to lay linoleum?”

    And if I were a guy, I could learn to lay the pipe. They always have the advantage!

    “Apparently if it gets laid properly you can walk all over it for the rest of your life… Now what does that remind me of???”

    These boots were made for walkin, and that’s just what they’ll do…. 😉

  12. SugarySpicey says:

    Jersey – I’m “nexting” I’m totally nexting, but for the moment he could weasel his way back in. Once he’s been replaced, he’s done for.

  13. SugarySpicey says:

    Phish … damn autocorrect!

  14. London Girl says:

    @lil_tm, maybe with your carpet munching experience you could learn to lay linoleum? Apparently if it gets laid properly you can walk all over it for the rest of your life… Now what does that remind me of???

  15. lil_tm says:

    “and a Fish concert”

    Phish? I actually love Phish..It’s the hippie mentality.

    “Hi lil_tm, did you miss me”

    Just when I thought you couldn’t get any more attractive, you grew a ZZ Top beard!

    “I never suspected you for a carpet muncher. You are so hot”

    I know…carpet is very fibrous, hence the heat. One day I’ll be able to get a real job like you and won’t have to subject myself to a life of toil. 😉

  16. London Girl says:

    @Spicey, NEXT!

  17. SugarySpicey says:

    London – that’s the problem, I don’t mean it. I want him to stop over-thinking everything, go back to his wife (or not, I don’t really care) and let us commence the adultery! Too much silliness already!

  18. London Girl says:

    Ah I see, tell him to get in touch if he makes his mind up, if you like him then it’s too risky.

    Walking away will make him appreciate you more too! Just make sure you mean it when you walk away, no weakening…

  19. SugarySpicey says:

    London, he’s totally lovely, sweet, and funny. And, completely generous and adoring. He’s also newly separated.

    Problem: after being all of those things, but before intimacy, he said that his feelings were too intense to be casual and that he can’t be starting a relationship (as in a real, dating, not just sugar) while he’s trying to decide if he wants to save his marriage.

    Blech! Why can’t I just be the other woman?

  20. Lil_tm says:

    When it rains it pours.

    This is so true. Why can’t it be more sporadic?
    It’s like when I open myself up to date, I get overwhelmed by the influx. So, I have to worry that I’m picking the right one and it stresses me out. Sometimes I just decide I don’t want to date at all because if this.

  21. London Girl says:

    I missed huge chunks of the blog while I was away, who is this surgeon? He sounds lovely from the little I’ve read so how come you’re not interested?

  22. London Girl says:

    @Spicey, some SB’s are intelligent and accomplished and some aren’t, I think FatBastard’s poking is usually at the ones who try to pretend they are something they quite clearly aren’t.

    I think he also has a very English sense of humour in that he enjoys winding people up, some of the more sensitive SB’s on this blog seem to be particularly susceptible to it!

    Speaking only for myself, he makes me laugh out loud with some of his comments!

  23. SugarySpicey says:

    Hey Micah – you’re fine. Just keep participating and the troll hunters will settle down. We can be catty sometimes, but consistency proves itself in the end. People just misunderstood things in your post, chalk it up to that and we’ll all move on. No drama.

    Lo and London – I don’t think anyone was putting another down for working retail. It can just be tiresome the way SoftiB refuses to see (despite months of evidence to the contrary) that some SBs are intelligent and accomplished (or working their way to be so). He sees us all as hookers, with a side job in the sunglasses shop, waiting to be “saved” from our life of shame. Wooden spoon or no, I find it a bit offensive that he’ll chose to stir it up by looking down on all of us, then get offended if we launch the same joke back in his direction. I find it annoying when one chooses to make assumptions that he has been informed are incorrect. But still he deigns to chat with us daily even though he talks about us as if we are all equivalent to a bunch of truck stop tramps.

    Lo – when do you leave for Spain?

    Jersey – He has a perfect record of being reliable/dependable but I’m really trying to put things behind me with the surgeon … that’s not where happiness lives. So, I didn’t really respond to the dinner suggestion, we’ll see if he pushes it.

    But, good news! My Austrian wants me to fly there in July, I have a date tomorrow night, and an SD that had gone quiet has just started emailing again. When it rains it pours.

  24. MicahSB says:

    Most of what I’ve been doing in the past few days is trying to justify myself here and prove that I’m not a fake. It’s getting a little tiring because I want to move on and use this place for advice and general SD conversations…
    @Jersey. You can re read my post about receiving 10 related or suspectsd DD/lg messages and nowhere did I mention that happen over a day. I said about 10 in total.
    Well ill just put it out there. Is there a way I can prove myself . Outside of here. So we can all move on?? Or will I have to move out of your blog ? Which I like :(
    If there’s a way I can . Let me know. I have proof of everything I’ve written here.

  25. London Girl says:

    Hey Jersey!

  26. London Girl says:

    @FatBastard, I’m falling for you all over again, I’m buying you a big wooden spoon for your birthday so you can keep on stirring it up!

    “don’t mind fb he thinks our greatest possible outcome is to become retail workers.”

    Isn’t it amazing how many people who are so sensitive themselves feel that it’s perfectly all right to look down on other people who haven’t had the opportunities they have…?

  27. Jersey Darling says:

    My, this blog sure does bring out the trolls doesn’t it?

    @Spicey, re: the surgeon: I have to admit, when someone I like talks about getting together I don’t get excited about it unless they have a good track record. This is why it’s so important for men to actually stick to what they say and not send mixed signals – it’s what allows the girl to feel comfortable, put down her guard and actually get excited to see you. Otherwise she’ll go into that space of “will I really see him? Is he just stringing me along?” and that’s not sexy for you or for her. You can create powerful butterflies, use it!

    Re: Body Hair – I don’t have any sweeping generalizations about it except that I generally detest mustaches. But I’m open to anything depending on how it looks on the person. Facial hair can be pretty itchy/uncomfortable for kissing. I’ll second that on the right person, stubble is sexy!

    By the way, Micah as soon as I saw what you wrote about DD/lg and how many messages you got a day as a result I planted you firmly in troll category. Those who actually use the site know how unlikely that is, and your date with the gentleman who flew you in – while I was at first willing to give it credence – was also unlikely. Most men who fly you in will have some expectation of intimacy and are usually successful at getting it because 1) you are not in familiar surroundings and 2) you feel indebted. It’s one of the many reasons the general wisdom is to have the man come to you.

  28. FatBastardSD says:

    @Rosie

    You are correct after all. I take this SD/SB business very seriously. 😐

    @Lo

    “don’t mind fb he thinks our greatest possible outcome is to become retail workers.”

    Don’t be afraid. Join us.

    @MicahSB

    “…its too conflicting for me to let him spend these insane numbers when just a little of that would help me out…”

    It’s quite thrilling to do this , try it and you will see! One of my hobbies was to pay homeless people to fight each other, eat broken glass,etc. It was really affordable and provided hours of entertainment.

  29. Rosie says:

    “We have something to offer society other than our looks, so we get a pass :-) . I kid, I kid…” -FatBastard

    We know you’re not kidding, FB. Full many a truth is oft told in jest. But this place is like one big dysFUNKtional family so we still love you.

  30. Lo says:

    don’t mind fb he thinks our greatest possible outcome is to become retail workers.

  31. MicahSB says:

    @Kathy Amen

  32. MicahSB says:

    Typos “my heart * has suffered* a sufficient trauma…”

  33. SugarySpicey says:

    Once, summer of my 19th birthday
    Burlington, Vermont and a Fish concert
    The guy with the Korn tattoo
    And the amazing abs
    … and the tongue ring.

    And his hippy stash made me quiver, because he knew how to use it.

    The rest of you gentlemen, do not. Must go.

  34. MicahSB says:

    @Fat what if the thing is aspire to the least in this world was to be as successful as the successful men I’m attracted to? I have decided to focus on my career for all the right reasons (independence, confidence, self accomplishment ) but was naturally never the career driven person. I’m a romantic. I’m a nester. It’s my nature. Some might call it submissive. I feel immensely empowered by giving and caring for someone I put on a pedestal because I trust them enough to deserve it. I cook, I clean, I give head, I love.
    Unfortunately my here has suffesre a sufficient trauma recently that had me take the drastic measure of caring for me for once. I don’t come with a baggage tho. I still have the same priorities and making millions isn’t one of them. Nor using someone else’s. I just want to have a good time and be taken care of for a while. I will always give more than I am given. But I need to feel what it’s like to be on the receiving end again because the last one left me empty.
    I’m doing great things and embarking on a great adventure. I have no shame in my pursuit for sugar dating. It’s has brought me some great things unexpectedly in the past and has never changed me as a person who I have deep respect for.

  35. Noob_SD says:

    @ lil_tm The only thing worse than an ugly mustache is body hair that looks like a chia pet.

    Hi lil_tm, did you miss me … :)

  36. Rosie says:

    Stache = womb broom.

    No, thanks!

  37. Kathy says:

    That depends on your definition of success, FatBastardSD.

  38. FatBastardSD says:

    @Kathy

    Kathy says:

    June 5, 2013 at 1:03 pm
    “Micah — I don’t know how old you are, but if you’re still in college eating Ramen, then you must still be in your early 20s. Honey, don’t feel like you’re any less than he is just because he has money and you don’t. You’re at a different stage in your development than he is. That’s all.”

    I don’t like to be the bringer of bad news or instigate, but you have it wrong. Statistically speaking he is very likely to be much more successful than she ever will be.

    That is all :-).

    @Principium

    The blog is best characterized by the following saying:

    That which is true is not new and that which is new is not true.

    London Girl says:
    June 5, 2013 at 3:30 pm

    “Why do men still insist on keeping their hairy faces, backs and overgrown pubes??? Considering how pedantic most men are about female body (and facial!) hair, the very least they could do is a bit of a tidy up…”

    We have something to offer society other than our looks, so we get a pass :-). I kid, I kid…

    @lil_tm

    I never suspected you for a carpet muncher. You are so hot :-).

  39. SugarySpicey says:

    Sweetie and Lo, unfortunately no, there has been no contact with the surgeon since the discussion of dinner – which would occur next week, if at all. But I’m really trying to just be done with him, he’s a waste of time!

  40. London Girl says:

    And he had a ‘tache…

    Just shows you how times have changed!

    Proof positive that human evolution hasn’t stopped completely…!

  41. London Girl says:

    Eurgh! No no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no… 70s hair anywhere on the body should be dealt with severely, especially if you plan on being seen in public or private with another member of the human race…

  42. sweetie says:

    Lil “The ladies really used to swoon over him, I think. ”
    Different times, different tastes.

  43. lil_tm says:

    “Men with 70s pubes shouldn’t expect too much attention to be paid to the region!”

    Lol…you just reminded me of this decrepit magazine I found in my aunt & uncles shed when I was little.
    I opened it and inside was a centerfold of Burt Reynolds rockin the stache AND equipped with the 70’s hair all over.

    The ladies really used to swoon over him, I think. Poor guy..I saw him on tv recently and he looked like he was really falling apart.

  44. Principium says:

    I may reinstate your status back to Lo, from Ho; if you share with the blog the dynamics of your “mini” arranegement.

    I can’t be blamed for being an arsehole all the time, if I have offered you an out 😉

  45. Lo says:

    hahahahah sweetie luckily he’s on the other site i use

  46. London Girl says:

    Men with 70s pubes shouldn’t expect too much attention to be paid to the region!

  47. London Girl says:

    Yep back hair is even more revolting than facial hair…

    Why do men still insist on keeping their hairy faces, backs and overgrown pubes??? Considering how pedantic most men are about female body (and facial!) hair, the very least they could do is a bit of a tidy up…

  48. sweetie says:

    Lo, do you think Twinkie reads the blog? hehehe!!!

  49. Lo says:

    that’s LO to you. And I’m not THAT desperate thankyouverymuch.

    lol sweetie he has a small nose and average sized hands

  50. Principium says:

    @ Ho: Give him a second chance. He maybe a great backdoor swordman. Always make lemonade out of lemons that life gives you 😛

  51. sweetie says:

    Lo, that’s terrible and funny at the same time! How big was his nose/ foot size? Let’s see if it’s a myth…

  52. lil_tm says:

    “@lil_tm facial hair should just be made illegal!”

    The only thing worse than an ugly mustache is body hair that looks like a chia pet.

    “The only man in the history of the universe that looked attractive was Rhett and even then it was only forgivable in the historical sense.”

    And he had dimples…who can resist those??

    “Stubble on the other hand”

    Yummy. :)

  53. Lo says:

    LMAO I was happy with how things were going and I was very attracted to him–he is 6’4 and has the look of a pro athlete. We were laying out at the pool all day and then later things got kind of frisky. I already knew when I had my hand on his pants that it was probably small but I was secretly hoping he was a grower. Then it came to the “big” reveal which ended up being the smallest I’ve ever seen. We then proceeded to have air sex meaning all I felt was air. He wanted to go several times but why? It felt more like cardio than sex. I was so sad ):

  54. London Girl says:

    @lil_tm facial hair should just be made illegal!

    The only man in the history of the universe that looked attractive was Rhett and even then it was only forgivable in the historical sense.

    Stubble on the other hand…

  55. Principium says:

    @ Lo: the concise way of saying it is’, “fake it till you make it”

    Inquiring minds want to know as to how you discovered the size of Mr. Handsome’s equipment. Don’t prompt me to address you as a Ho again 😉

  56. Lo says:

    ahh happy for her

  57. lil_tm says:

    “I’m sure there must be something hideously wrong with him but here’s hoping!”

    haha…we do think alike.

    Perhaps he’s missing a leg?

    Re:moustache. AGREED.
    A while back a man on here messaged me five times with no response. I guess he thought if he sent me a pic, I would cave. The problem is that he had a stache…a stache that looked like he tripped and fell in a pile of barbwire that was now attached to his upper lip. Not cute.

  58. sweetie says:

    Lo “Sugary where did u disappear to?”
    She’s busy with the surgeon!

  59. Lo says:

    Micah just be real with him. If he has enough money to fund his travels to see you, stay in nice accommodations and dine on gourmet, he has enough money to give you to pay for expenses, to look pretty for him, etc. No need to scrape together a few coins in order to afford a manicure and other needs–he’s a SUGAR daddy right? If he’s not he should stay off a SUGAR daddy site. Losing patience for guys like this who take advantage of nice girls like you who maybe aren’t so forward.. this isn’t match.com he can’t pretend he didn’t see an allowance figure on your profile, get money. You are a hot, budding, educated piece of ass who has her shit together, kind of a unique combination on sites like these so get yours.

    Sugary where did u disappear to?

  60. London Girl says:

    @lil_tm they don’t have to be exact clones, I could live without the moustache! But that southern accent on a man…

  61. lil_tm says:

    “Or maybe I’ll come to the South and embrace my inner Scarlett, do you know any Rhett Butler clones?”

    We shall do both. Why limit ourselves? 😉

    Maybe not an exact clone, but there are some fine distinguished gentlemen in the South, and frankly my darling, I am quite certain they could not resist your british accent…..or your sarcasm. 😀

  62. London Girl says:

    I’m a little excited, I reactivated my profile in a “let’s see” mood and am meeting what seems to be Mr Perfect… So far ticking all the boxes… Looking for the same kind of relationship as me… Funny, good-looking, charming, sophisticated and really smart… I’m sure there must be something hideously wrong with him but here’s hoping!

  63. London Girl says:

    Or maybe I’ll come to the South and embrace my inner Scarlett, do you know any Rhett Butler clones?

  64. sweetie says:

    P “To bend over and call Mel Gibson!”
    Hehehe, P! That was a good one :)

  65. lil_tm says:

    “@lil_tm you should come to London! You and I and our sarcasm would have a ball!”

    I knew that from the first day I ever posted here and spotted you…and yes, I would looooooooovey love love to come to London! 😉

  66. London Girl says:

    @lil_tm you should come to London! You and I and our sarcasm would have a ball!

    Hey peeps, just saying hello

  67. lil_tm says:

    “When a pot SD jets you across country for a nice dinner date, it can easily cost $3,000-$5,000.”

    I see. I was only asking because I remember the amount mentioned seemed like a lot for one date.
    Then I decided i really didn’t give a rats behind, I was just questioning my instincts. 😀

  68. Principium says:

    To bend over and call Mel Gibson!

  69. MicahSB says:

    @Principium. I’m Jewish…. what are my options now?

  70. Rosie says:

    When a pot SD jets you across country for a nice dinner date, it can easily cost $3,000-$5,000.

  71. Principium says:

    @ Micah, you have sinned against the Church of the Anti-Christ (me) I have a hard time believing your confessions!

    You now have two choices:

    1- to agree with the Lord of Darkness and to amplify your confession

    2- to ignore the LoD and to redirect your stories.

    I must warn you that I may find the latter choice bigoted 😛

    P.S. I’m seriously gone now.

  72. MicahSB says:

    @Kathy. we seem to have a lot in common when it comes to our childhood and background.
    Apart from the constant inquisitions i do appreciate all the helpful comments and advice from this blog :)

  73. MicahSB says:

    @lil_tm
    2 way flight in 1st class with one transit was already about 1200$
    4 car services wer about 180$ each
    1 night at the Hilton was 179$
    Patio bar with drinks and oysters, steakhouse with wine and bubbles, and he bought an exeptional Bourbon bottle because my profile says i enjoy whiskey.

  74. lil_tm says:

    @ Micha
    What exactly did your guy friend spend $3000 on during your date? Just curious.

  75. Kathy says:

    Haha!!! Thank you for the background… Please enjoy your banishment! =)

    Peace and blessings

  76. MicahSB says:

    before i even go through all the messages id like to (RE!)justify my use of terms! (sigh) for Principium!
    I recently moved to the south of the US for an Internship! my lodging is paid for IN A YOUTH HOSTEL where i share A DORM with different summer interns and travellers! I’m 25 years old and already completed my degree which i pay for (priorities) from my own pocket. i decided to leave the very lucrative service industry after saving some money and pay my dues in the field i want to develop my career in. I work my ass off! i get paid enough to budget bills and cook for myself. Im not unhappy about my situation its an amazing adventure i have embarked on! everything is very exciting for me here but i cannot look or be the woman i would want to be next to a man who is financially INTIMIDATING to me.
    i am not desperate. i find enormous pride in being able to live a standard life and i keep my eyes on the prize (my professional work finally getting recognized). i have turned down 2 POT with allowance in the past week alone.

  77. Principium says:

    My story? Willing and able only when I wanna be. I’m known as being a complete brat to some people! I’m a bad guest too. I walk around my host’s houses at nights, I eat their food, I drink their beer and at times, I have been known to miss the toilet bowl when I take a leak. However, I’m generous to a degree and I compensate my gracious hosts :)

  78. Principium says:

    I’m now going to ban myself for a few hours and let the love fest with ClooneySD and his black Amex to foster. Anyone else wants to have their balloons popped before I go into banishment?

  79. Kathy says:

    Ha! Thanks, Princi… So what’s your story?

  80. Principium says:

    Who said that our edu system sucked in this country?! Note that Micah’s tremendous improvement in her English is a great testament to our superior edu system 😀

  81. Principium says:

    @ Kathy: Last week Micah was transferred to a new city through her work for a period of three month, but she must have now had a change of mind and went back to college. It happens 😉

  82. Rosie says:

    Lol, lil_tm. Sometimes I’m a little bit country….and a little bit rock ‘n roll. 😉

  83. Kathy says:

    “I just prioritize on more essential expenses) and let me afford the personal care i want in order to feel more confident next to him ( some clothes, a bikini wax, a haircut…) without the help, I will feel like we are being kept on distinctive casts where i only get a taste of the fun when i see him and the rest of the time i’m just struggling or feeling innapropriate.”

    Micah — I don’t know how old you are, but if you’re still in college eating Ramen, then you must still be in your early 20s. Honey, don’t feel like you’re any less than he is just because he has money and you don’t. You’re at a different stage in your development than he is. That’s all.

    I was the first in my family to go to college… and I always secretly had a fear that I wasn’t going to be good enough… It didn’t matter how hard I studied or how many academic honors I accumulated; I felt that I would never be accepted by other professionals as an equal… I had been homeless… I had been a stipper… I come from a broken home where at different periods I was abused by each of my step-parents. I had issues…

    Once I got my foot in the door with my first career and started actually accomplishing my own successes and garnering the respect of my peers, my self-esteem soared! And yours will too.

    Another thing I realized is that all of those “professional elites” who I had been afraid would never accept me are IDIOTS!!! Oh my sweet GOD! I can’t tell you how many incompetent morons I have worked with and cleaned up after.

    So take this piece of advice… Don’t ever walk into a room assuming anyone there is better than you. They’re not. And don’t approach this arrangement (relationship… whatever it ends up being) feeling like this guy is better than you. He has more resources… That’s all. You are going to have amazing accomplishments of your own. Trust me… Your past has nothing to do with your future other than the lessons you choose to glean from it.

  84. Rosie says:

    MicahSB

    Oh that was just my thought in general regarding allowance vs. investment. Wasn’t really tying it in with your situation. That guy sounds like dreamy BF material though!

  85. lil_tm says:

    …except for Rosalita. She’s no country bumpkin and she’s a sweetheart!

  86. lil_tm says:

    “the trusting, warm & fuzzy noblemen get their heads cut off”

    We all get our heads cut off at some point, naughty or nice.

    I believe there are true and good people out there, they are just hard to find. And they usually come from the country. 😀

  87. Principium says:

    @ BeckySB: while I find you entertaining, just like M Night Shyalaman flicks, past the first and the second one, everything else is becoming less and less interesting…

  88. Rosie says:

    Lol @Princi!!

  89. Principium says:

    @ myself: I actually don’t feel that badly at all. Semi “apology” retracted!

  90. Principium says:

    Micah, I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt, but there are some glaring inconsistencies in your stories. You ought not play with SBs emotions on this blog! Tsk.. Tsk…

    I feel bad about pooping on everyone’s parade, but just like the Game of Thrones, the trusting, warm & fuzzy noblemen get their heads cut off 😉

  91. lil_tm says:

    “A politician would refer to it as an investment”

    I disagree. That sounds like strictly business and i don’t care for the sound of it.

    “A smart SB knows how to turn that part of the arrangement into something sexy, so the giver never feels like a loser who pays for sex.”

    Icey Spice, no matter how you dice it or sugar coat it, it’s got an ugly underlying layer that you really can’t do anything about.

    I like to think of it as friends with bennies, but the nature of it accelerates the relationship past the dating b.s. and the wondering where its going and what it’s all about.
    Any guy I’ve ever been serious with has helped me in any way needed and i do the same. It’s the same thing without the strings. As long as you don’t abuse it and become needy, I don’t see the problem. I know I would do anything I could for someone I care about who needed it and I don’t see why I would want someone in my life I couldn’t depend on.
    I wouldn’t want to be involved with someone too dense to know if I was pulling a fast one and using them. I prefer a dynamic of mutual respect and admiration.

    “I just prioritize on more essential expenses) and let me afford the personal care i want in order to feel more confident next to him ( some clothes, a bikini wax, a haircut…) without the help, I will feel like we are being kept on distinctive casts where i only get a taste of the fun when i see him and the rest of the time i’m just struggling or feeling innapropriate.”

    I can understand this. If you are struggling financially, going out to nice dinners and drinking fine wine won’t help you. Yea, it’s nice to partake in that lifestyle, but when you go home and have to face reality that it’s just a fantasy for a few hours, what good is that?

  92. MicahSB says:

    @Rosie Yeah but if this was traditional dating ( I think thats the way he sees it… without the pressure for commitment because im just naturally laid back and pressure free)
    would it be too early to “invest in my future” ? Doesn’t he need to care more about me, or fall for me? what if this is all very convenient for him at the moment but he doesn’t feel the need to invest… i guess that would kind of be a deal breaker. I mean i do look classy but at some point he should be able to see how my living condition could use his help. he should get the urge to help out …

  93. Rosie says:

    Re: Allowance vs. Investment

    I found some SDs love to help a girl pursue a dream and happy to invest in her ideas and goals. This approach works well for guys who aren’t comfortable with the term “allowance”. He’s investing in your future, which will ultimately lead to financial stability. It also takes the whole feeling away that he’s “paying you to date him.”

  94. MicahSB says:

    Its been 24 hours since ive landed back to my home and the fact is I am thinking about this man a lot (not obsessing) and it makes me smile and i really cant wait for our skype conversation tonight and also I’m very much attracted sexually. That kiss was the perfect tease. I want him. Those clues are naturally enough for me to understand that i like him and that I’m willing to compromise on the ideal SD relationship I was aiming for. I’m not thinking full on relationship nor do I think he is either (hes the dating type SD not the boyfriend type just yet) but I really want to see him again and plan whatever adventure he has in mind for us without thinking about the allowance anymore. @Dashel has a good point though… “help” is a way more appropriate term for what id like to get . The issue im having is an internal dilemna; I want to see and date this guy who spends insane amounts of money just to see me but what if he flies me every weekend or twice a month and just spends 4-5k on transportation while im sitting here in my dorm room eating ramen noodles and saving up for a manicure or perhaps a cute outfit for the next time i see him …. its too conflicting for me to let him spend these insane numbers when just a little of that would help me out (its not like i didnt work 2 jobs right now!!!!! I just prioritize on more essential expenses) and let me afford the personal care i want in order to feel more confident next to him ( some clothes, a bikini wax, a haircut…) without the help, I will feel like we are being kept on distinctive casts where i only get a taste of the fun when i see him and the rest of the time i’m just struggling or feeling innapropriate.
    I got engaged to my one of my SD’s once ( a long time ago). I know that things dont always go the way you got it planned but my ex started from giving an allowance to just simply paying for all my expenses or buying me outfits and acting just like a generous lover rather than “paying for it” i would just have to say “hunny, im heading out to get my hair done for tonight” “ok baby i left the card on the desk, love you!”

  95. Kathy says:

    Yes, I’m with Dashel… I hate the term “daddy” and “baby” in the context of arrangement making. You’re right… It IS demeaning. I’m a competent, independent mother of two who manages my own household and career. Not some little girl begging my daddy for an allowance. I try to steer clear of men who will not treat me as an equal. Yes, they are providing financial assistance that helps me support my daughters at a level I otherwise couldn’t… However, I am bringing my own time and talents (not only the physical talents) to the arrangement also.

  96. SugarySpicey says:

    See I think men look at it all wrong, it’s foreplay! A smart SB knows how to turn that part of the arrangement into something sexy, so the giver never feels like a loser who pays for sex.

  97. flyr says:

    A politician would refer to it as an investment . . . . . . . . .

    Perhaps it is really exclusive (or semi exclusive) crowdfunding in any event I think Dashel is on the right track.

  98. Dashel says:

    I dislike the term allowance as it feels demeaning.  I like to use “help”.  I don’t even really like the terms “daddy” and “baby” (other than tongue in cheek) because it’s just weird.  The biggest hurdle to all this for me is still the transactional nature of it.  I have no problem being generous and “helping” though, which is semantics I know but it works for me.  That also coincides with needing to trust the person I’m helping.      
     
    Since I’m on the topic, another word that still makes me cringe is “pamper”.  I always think diapers and even in context it’s along the lines of “duh”.  Kinda like a guy saying he likes BJs :)
     

  99. colored.rocks says:

    Yikes! I haven’t traveled (with someone) in a while, and thats why college sucks!!

  100. flyr says:

    @SD Guru “relate to how generous and how willing he is to provide an allowance.”

    If he has the capacity but struggles with the thought of an allowance make it a marketing/semantics problem. It’s an investment opportunity. My sense is that there are a number of men who feel that if they are providing an allowance it’s like hunting with poison gas, it means they are not a worthy hunter anymore.

  101. Noob_SD says:

    @ lil_tm: Stop for a second and quit playing hard to get … You’ve got to give our budding romance a chance … :)

    @MicahSB: I didn’t know that there was this much interest in “non-traditional stuff/relationship”.

    @Princi: Sometimes I wonder if some of these profiles are put up as a joke ….

    • SD Guru says:

      @Micah SB
      “Here’s the problem. This guy is dating material when I just really want sugar dates.”

      I wrote about guys like that in my blog. Following is an excerpt. You’ll need to decide how important the sugar is to you.

      Here’s one of the most counter intuitive lessons for SB’s to learn. That is, a SD’s wealth, income, and lifestyle may not directly relate to how generous and how willing he is to provide an allowance. He has to be able and willing to do so. Some wealthy men are willing to spend lots of money on fine dining, travel, and gifts because they think sharing a piece of their lifestyle is good enough to be a SD. But when it comes to providing an allowance they think there is a stigma associated with it as if they’re too good to be “paying” for a SB. Therefore, for SB’s who are looking for an allowance, these wealthy men will just end up wasting their time.

  102. Principium says:

    @ noob, I speculate that profile is a fake and either conjured by a Dom oriented guy. Stylistically it is too masculine!

  103. MicahSB says:

    @Noob the DD/LG Demand is actually HUGE on SA. i got about 10 SDs message me wanting a DD/Lg relationship. this girl is going to be quite popular.

  104. lil_tm says:

    “I have always been interested in what makes things work so it’s not a lot of effort but rather thinking about what’s happening.”

    I am that way, too. As usual, I was joking. :)

    “@lil_tm: If only I could catch you …. red handed or not 0;)”

    Then you may wanna drop that turkey leg. 😛

  105. Noob_SD says:

    Noob_SD’s profile of the day!

    This one was way too long … but the end of this profile was very interesting. Goes to prove that there is something for everyone on SA :)

    I’m Seeking: Sugar Daddy
    I Expect: US$1,000 – $3,000 monthly
    Description: I am looking for a Man who adores the art of spanking. I’d like to have a Man who takes an interest in important aspects of my life, provides guidance and motivation… and will be a Stern Disciplinarian if I fail to meet my agreed goals.

    It would be great if you could help me with my physiotherapy studies, but that is secondary, really.

    As a student I have such a tight budget – rent and standard living expenses are difficult some months. The leap from a a fine arts background into medical/science studies is a big one and working part time has seriously detracted form my marks.

    Would be insanely hot for My Sugar Daddy to leave his hand prints on my bottom and legs when I’ve been baaad. Or maybe a paddle.

    Or cane.

    If it hurts when I sit down for a few days afterwards it will help me focus on my work.

    When I get the results I >should< be getting you'll have made a big change in my life AND enjoyed the wonderful art of spanking with someone who gets off on it.

    For me, the spanking and the control is more important than the sex. Do you like spanking that much too?

  106. Noob_SD says:

    @lil_tm: If only I could catch you …. red handed or not 0;)

  107. flyr says:

    @lil “@flyr…I see you’ve really put a lot of thought into this. ”

    I have always been interested in what makes things work so it’s not a lot of effort but rather thinking about what’s happening.

  108. lil_tm says:

    @flyr…I see you’ve really put a lot of thought into this. :)

    @Noob..and here I was thinking I was the wily one and you caught me red handed.

  109. Noob_SD says:

    @ lil_tm I’m not sure what the appeal factor is compared to the other, but it’s getting lots o’ lovin. Do they feature profiles on the main page or something?

    You put my thong picture up there … didn’t you? … :)

  110. Lo says:

    hey spicey, the SD who gave you the thousands–was he a sissy? or regular SD?

  111. flyr says:

    @lil “Do they feature profiles on the main page or something?”

    On the opening screen they feature some “verified ” SB thumbnail pics it seems like there is a lot of repeats of some profiles.

    On other screens they also display “featured SB” thumbnail photos It is not clear how they select but there are some apparent high frequency appearances.

    My guess is that both generate a lot of “viewed your profile” counts as the viewer is reacting to the photo only with no knowledge of location, allowance or other data. Sort of like stopping to look at the shoes in the window.

    If your profile made it to featured it should get a lot of hits. If you are getting a lot of hits from distant places then this may be the cause but there may also be something in your profile that puts you at the top of searches.

    As mentioned earlier the default search display order is by latest profile and often the option of sorting by latest signon is not displayed. For those who hide their signon data some bad news . When the sort by signon option is used you were on between the one before and the one after. Not clear if the data is from the sign on time or the signoff. If you want to appear higher on the search results the more frequent changes to the profile help as it apparently counts as a new profile. This is not terribly significant if someone is doing a very focused search but in a dense area such as LA it makes a huge difference, unless the search is very specific.

    A 10 mile radius search from Beverly Hills for a SB , up to 5K non smoking
    25-35 age produces about 1400 results. If you did your profile in April you may be way down the list from someone who did their profile May 1 and then never checked back.

    .

  112. lil_tm says:

    @ Micah
    That’s super exciting. Sounds like he made all the right moves for ya. :)

    FWIW, I just want to say that dummy $3-5k profile is bumpin’
    I’m not sure what the appeal factor is compared to the other, but it’s getting lots o’ lovin. Do they feature profiles on the main page or something?

  113. DianaSBinOC says:

    Congrats Micah and Kathy!! It’s always great to hear about amazing first connections:) So happy for you both!!!

  114. sweetie says:

    Micah and Kathy, I’m glad things are looking better for you. Good luck, ladies!

  115. Kathy says:

    Wow, Micah! I’m so happy for you! I really hope things work out. I can’t really add anything to the advice that was already given. My very first arrangement was with a man who I felt that kind of connection with… We didn’t discuss the arrangement, and I really hoped for something more… But he was separated from his wife who was living with the man she cheated on him with… Unfortunately, he ended up going back to her because they had a two-year-old daughter together… So make sure he doesn’t have any baggage laying around that could muddle things up.

    On the other hand, I’m really excited about this guy who messaged me from WYP. We’re having lunch Thursday, and going climbing together after work… We really seem to have a lot in common, and at the very least, this may turn into a long-term friendship. He’s already talking about going up Rainier with me next year… And he’s promised to be generous with me… (Maybe sponsor all or part of my trip? Could I be so lucky? Fingers crossed!)

    I guess the best advice I can give is take things slowly. Let him be generous to you. And enjoy the journey. If you don’t feel comfortable talking about an allowance, I totally agree with flyR. Talk to him about what your goals are… what you’re passionate about… and perhaps he will financially support your development towards those goals.

    Good luck! =)

  116. Jersey Darling says:

    @Micah – What you write is uncanny because I feel like I was just there with my last date.

    I agree with Spicey and go more traditional (unless what you really want is an allowance) – do not be intimate until you are ready and let him woo you. It is perfect that he didn’t try to rush intimacy with you; hopefully he’ll keep it that way. You may need to have a conversation about being more traditional so expectations are clear, but for now I’d wait to see how things unfold. Perhaps the lifestyle change will be worth it to you instead of an allowance.

  117. Dashel says:

    Good advice flyR and Spice (buddy cop movie title right there. Maybe Angelina Jolie and Jason Stathom.)

    I’d only add: make sure this guy isn’t a bug chaser.

  118. flyR says:

    Micah –

    Sounds like you have five of six issues settled , you are way ahead of the game
    He likes you
    You like him
    He can afford both you and fun
    You look forward to sex
    He looks forward to sex

    Now you need to create an environment where sugar is transformed from an awkward burden to a make him feel good investment opportunity. He may feel that he does not want to “spoil it” by paying to have sex with you – so eliminate that part.

    You need someone to believe in you and to help you become a success which will be good for society – yes I know this sounds corny .

    Let him know that you do not need to be wined and dined – his intellectual company is awesome . You need someone willing to invest in you and that he will be proud of you .

    There are people in life who really do want to help others move towards their dreams. (vs those who simply want to take) . You may find that you get both.

    However good it looks, keep your sensors deployed – does he want you for what you are or what you make him look like.?

    Report back

  119. SugarySpicey says:

    Micah – converting a noob SD/BF wannabe to an SD is tricky. I would suggest you take things slow, let him show his generous side a little. This may turn into more of a generous BF than an SD. But, if you like him, let it develop naturally – it doesn’t always have to be about an allowance.

    Give it a week or two and see what develops organically without bringing up the allowance issue, he may surprise you. Just don’t have sex until you’re excited and ready to have sex.

    I posted a blog about allowance etiquette if any new SBs are interested: sugarmytips.wordpress.com/2013/05/26/sugar-baby-etiquette-101/

  120. MicahSB says:

    Hey guys, my post got lost in the feed yesterday because I used a different device and it was “pending moderation” or something. I was on my way to meet my POT in another state. Please Go back if Ur still curious about it…
    Well the date went AMAZINGLY. This man is a GEM! He’s a gorgeous hazel eyed 40 year old broker with grayish hair (HAWWWT) , a black AMEX (Amen!), he drives a Jag and a Harley. He reads russian litterature and loves the ballet. He has a 3 story bachelor pad with a Gillion feet ceilings! He picked me up at the hotel and took me for cocktails and oysters. We went to a beautiful restaurant and sat at the bar and had steak (I love sitting at the bar in restaurants, it’s very laid back and easy) he’s such a real and unpretentious man. He seems really confident but he has every right to be.
    Other thing, he’s nuts about me! Like crazy! He was showing me off and complimenting me constantly, he made me laugh and feel giddy. I won’t lie, the black Amex when the tab showed up was also a huge turn on. We kissed, cuddled and that was it. We wer both turned on but he was not pressuring me and although I would’ve jumped him right there and than I made him wait.
    Here’s the problem. This guy is dating material when I just really want sugar dates. Bringing up the sugar seemed so out of place . It felt like a real date. I hinted that I wasn’t looking for love or commitment at this point of my life nor was I closed to it completly. This man is a newb. Not an SD and I doubt he’s even an SD in the making. He spent about 3k on this date like it was nothing but there was no gift or enveloppe or allowance discussion. i dont know how to convert him. We met on SA! It shouldn’t be that hard to tell him my real intentions. He mentioned traveling and going on all sorts of adventures.( I would love to!) I think I could work on him as a longer term investment. I dont want to throw him off. Also I like him. I really like him. What do I dooooooo?

  121. Dashel says:

    Good morning everyone. I’m in a very good mood today. :) hope you’re all well.

    Kathy look at it this way, it can only get better from here! Bad luck has to end at some point.

    Noob good luck with the model!

  122. Jersey Darling says:

    @Noob – I think you are the clever one and you’ve learned from FatBastard that when someone portrays themselves as fat on this blog we all come to the conclusion that you are fit and gorgeous!

  123. Noob_SD says:

    @ Jersey D why don’t you try a picture of yourself for your gravatar? Inquiring minds want to know

    Jersey, You are the clever one … A little entertainment – it started as a joke and I stretched it as far as it’ll go. We form opinions of people based on what we see, there is a lot more to a person than meets the eye. If only we’d all pause to understand the other person.

    Lil_tm, You can still call me big boy, I still have a big heart :) One of these days, I’ll put up a real picture.

    Going to sleep … night sugars … I have less than 5 hrs before I get up for work.

  124. lil_tm says:

    “@Noob, why don’t you try a picture of yourself for your gravatar? Inquiring minds want to know”

    Yes you big, burly behemoth of a man…show Jersey the good stuff! 😀

  125. Jersey Darling says:

    The bug chasing story can’t be real. At least the part about her dying. People can live with HIV healthily for years nowadays, so unless this event was 10+ years in is past I don’t buy it.

    And I’m with lil, you couldn’t pay me to respond to that guy.

    @Noob, why don’t you try a picture of yourself for your gravatar? Inquiring minds want to know 😉

  126. flyR says:

    Wow, all the horror stories and it’s not even Halloween.

    The bug chasing story ( if it is real) is worse that it sounds as the male engaging in hetrosexual sex has a far lower chance of infection than the female from what limited guidance I have received from my flight surgeon. It reminds me – Where is DR Jack, he just disappeared . Hopefully with one of our bloggies…….

    It seems that 6 months ago we had an much greater number of “she dunn me wrong ” stories on here and the SB’s were having a pretty good time or not sharing the bad stuff.

    The $300 a week for constant availability – In Santa Monica that wouldn’t get your dog walked twice a day.

    My perception is that I am getting more unsolicited , “instant sugar” notes near the end of each month……

  127. Noob_SD says:

    @ lil_tm awwww..now don’t be like Fatty and try to put words in my mouth.

    Okay lil_tm, You can call me big boy … ever heard the song “Big boys” by Elvis Costello ? One of my favorites …

  128. Kathy says:

    Hi guys,

    Well, I have the texts here on my phone. I’m not screwing with y’all. But I do hope you’re right about him screwing with me. Because that story seriously made me sick to my stomach.

  129. lil_tm says:

    “I see how you are … We were talking about “self-interest” a while ago and you mentioned about how you care about the world, the hungry children blah blah … and now you are lining up to make fun of my misfortune”

    awwww..now don’t be like Fatty and try to put words in my mouth. I find it rather endearing, Big Boy. You don’t mind if I call you Big Boy, do you?

  130. Noob_SD says:

    @ lil_tm LOL..Noob How much do you pay for a plane ticket? Just wondering.

    I see how you are … We were talking about “self-interest” a while ago and you mentioned about how you care about the world, the hungry children blah blah … and now you are lining up to make fun of my misfortune …

  131. Noob_SD says:

    @Princi … What are you talking about? The bug chasing thing … Once in a while you got to give these stories a push, some life :) If you are talking about my avatar … that is me in the aisle seat :)

    Fellow SDs: On another note, I found a former penthouse/playboy model (or so she claims) profile …. reasonably close to me. A well written profile too …. :) Sent her an email .. let’s see what happens …

  132. lil_tm says:

    LOL..Noob How much do you pay for a plane ticket? Just wondering. 😀

  133. lil_tm says:

    “Even if it’s true, this guy is clearly messing with Kathy or Kathy is messing with us.”

    That was my initial reaction. Beck is that you?? 😉

  134. Dashel says:

    Gut reaction yeah still BS. As for the video, “But then went online and there were several sites…” I dunno, not convinced by that guy. is there maybe an infinitesimally small subset out there that did this? Anything is possible. Also I saw this: [img]http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4895012.stm[/img]

    Several UK-based websites deal with the phenomenon, as do many more in the US, where the phenomenon of bug chasing was originally reported.

    Bug chasers supposedly look for “conversion parties” where HIV positive men have the opportunity to pass on the virus to multiple partners.

    Dyer finds that the overwhelming majority of the talk is pure fantasy.

    Men who say they are bug chasers and gift givers fail to stand by their claims on camera and one man who gave an anonymous interview subsequently appeared to be lying to the production team about his activities.

    His findings are echoed by the HIV charities.

    Will Nutland, head of health promotion at Terrence Higgins Trust, said: “The concepts of ‘gift giving’ and ‘bug chasers’ are definitely based more in fantasy than reality.

    “Most gay men with HIV do not want to pass HIV on, and most gay men who do not have HIV do not want to get infected.”

    And Deborah Jack, chief executive of the National AIDS Trust said: “There is very little evidence of people trying to get infected with HIV.

    Even if it’s true, this guy is clearly messing with Kathy or Kathy is messing with us.

  135. Principium says:

    Noob, what was the creature?! I just had my dinner!

  136. lil_tm says:

    I thought it was b.s. too…then I looked it up and it seems real.

  137. Noob_SD says:

    Is it Dashel? Behold the power of Google …

    [img]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yErNVwD3w-0[/img]

  138. Dashel says:

    Yeah I’m gonna throw a big bullshit flag on the bug chaser thing. Penalty, false start. Repeat second down. Someone is screwing with you, or you’re messing with us hah :)

  139. Noob_SD says:

    @ lil_tm Now that is some sick sh*t ladies and gentlemen.

    It is sad … but that does appear to be real. Quick Google search reveals “Bug Chasers” … where there are people who chase the bug (HIV strain). That is sick!

  140. Noob_SD says:

    @ Spicey Noob! How did you find my profile?

    She also has a picture of what she is describing … without a single piece of clothing … and no it is not a private picture … Surely, that can’t be you ? :)

    PS: I am not joking about the picture …It’s there

    On another note, I think I am going to give this travel thing a shot … I have always enjoyed travel. When gravatar updates you can get a feel for what travel with me is like … Blog-SBs, any takers? :)

  141. lil_tm says:

    ^Oh and

    P.S. I wouldn’t answer that ninja if he had the only key into the gates of heaven.

  142. lil_tm says:

    “I’m sure you know what that is, but in case you don’t, it’s a sexual swap party where one couple that comes HIV positive, but their identity is kept secret until the end of the night after the sex takes place… names are placed in a hat to determine who you sleep with so whether or not you end up with the HIV positive person is totally left to chance… then after the sex takes place at the end of the night the infected couple is announced, so at that point you find out if you have been exposed to HIV… My girlfriend and I both ended up being with healthy people, but her friend that went down with us of the other couple was with the guy that was HIV positive… She ended up contracting it that night and because of underlying health issues, she did develop full blown AIDS… We buried her last September actually.”

    Now that is some sick sh*t ladies and gentlemen.

  143. SugarySpicey says:

    Noob! How did you find my profile? I thought I’d hidden it! Damn! Now I’ll have to spend hours crafting another masterful work.

  144. Principium says:

    Noob, I honestly do not recollect having visited any McDonals ever since the turn of the new Millennium! LOL.

  145. Noob_SD says:

    Princi – Grasshopper, I can teach you how to join the club … McDonalds is your friend here … :)

    In the meantime, from the wonderful world of SA – here’s another beautiful profile from an SB:

    Description: Rather dominant/independent. Seeking casual acquaintance, at first.

    Arrangement I am Seeking

    I’m Seeking: Sugar Daddy
    I Expect: US$1,000 – $3,000 monthly
    Description: Seeking partner in crime, seeking a submmissive, slutty bitch-man to worship me in my fine-ness, and my fine ASS. I will expect an allowance for my time and attention. Will discipline and cherish the right boy-man.

  146. Principium says:

    Noob, you and FBSD have this market cornered. There is no place for me in here :( Sniff, sniff…

  147. Noob_SD says:

    Not for a million bucks, Princi. Rosie wants to bounce on it, Jersey can’t take her eyes off of it ….

  148. Principium says:

    Hey noob, wanna swap bellies?

  149. Principium says:

    Hey Kathy, he literally sounds too fcuken hot. I may wanna go mountain climbing with him now! Hahahaha 😛

  150. Noob_SD says:

    @ Kathy It’s official… I have completely lost all hope for the human race…

    Sorry to hear that. But I would encourage you to rethink your stance a bit, even though you may not feel like that right now. I would recommend viewing everyone through the prism of lowered expectations, then you won’t feel so disappointed. The “trust” is the last part you should hand out to someone/anyone, till they have proven themselves, through their words and deeds.

    “Love all, trust few and do harm to none” – William Shakespeare

  151. Kathy says:

    It’s official… I have completely lost all hope for the human race…

    This “gentleman” from Missouri wanted to make an arrangement with me. He’s a bit of an adrenaline junkie, and we were talking about crazy things we’ve done with our partners. As we were texting and getting to know each other, he decides to share a story with me. The following is exactly what was texted to me:

    “The biggest risk I’ve ever run was in 2002 before I got married… I was dating a girl in the swinging lifestyle and she and I and another couple in the lifestyle went to a sexual roulette party (also called a bug party) in Nashville.

    “I’m sure you know what that is, but in case you don’t, it’s a sexual swap party where one couple that comes HIV positive, but their identity is kept secret until the end of the night after the sex takes place… names are placed in a hat to determine who you sleep with so whether or not you end up with the HIV positive person is totally left to chance… then after the sex takes place at the end of the night the infected couple is announced, so at that point you find out if you have been exposed to HIV… My girlfriend and I both ended up being with healthy people, but her friend that went down with us of the other couple was with the guy that was HIV positive… She ended up contracting it that night and because of underlying health issues, she did develop full blown AIDS… We buried her last September actually.

    “So the rush is having sex and not knowing if you are with the infected person… Amazing orgasm I will admit; but doubt I’d ever play it again… too risky.”

    OH MY GOD!!!! How do I even respond to that??? I am so depressed from just reading it… And I’m blown away by the unthinkable stupidity of it. These people need to be nominated for a Darwin Award.

    He keeps texting me, and I just can’t respond to him. I have absolutely nothing positive to say. I hope he takes the hint and just stops texting. I don’t have to be in love with a man in order to have sex with him, but I do need to find something in him that I can respect and admire… And there is nothing here that I can respect and admire.

  152. sweetie says:

    Diana “I may decide to hide my profile again and return around Halloween. At least I’ll know where to go trick-or-treating. lol”

    Hehehe! You’re right, too many SD wannabes.

  153. DianaSBinOC says:

    @Dashel-

    “@Diana wow 40-50 blocks. So are there more fakes than genuine guys on here?”

    Yes that is the complete truth.

    Look at reviews and you’ll see in general the men are talking about how great the site is. Even one guy posted a review about how he gets an endless supply of sex from young beautiful women at $100 without a clock interrupting him. No regular dating site would ever provide a similar guy that kind of luck.

    The exact number is 44 blocked on this site. 65 on another SD site. I will say the other site’s blocked numbers are higher based on a few members that close their profiles ,create a whole new fake identity yet send the same identical message they used previously.

    Remember the site owner said “If you have any disposable income you can be a sugar daddy too!’. Someone’s disposable income could be $3. He could probably offer a sugar baby a nice stick of chewy candy. Still he would fit the description quite well:)

    I may decide to hide my profile again and return around Halloween. At least I’ll know where to go trick-or-treating. lol

  154. SugarySpicey says:

    I just find it crazy when these cheapskates meet us in person what makes them think we would possibly want to entertain their offer of $300 a week for hours of sex and a Big Mac? Don’t they have eyes, and a mirror?

  155. Lo says:

    Kathy just read your post…okay these “SDs” are getting ridiculous. They should stick to posting “wealthy benefactor” ads on craigslist.

  156. Lo says:

    Micah your “pot SD” sounds horrible. Three hundred IF you’re good and open minded enough? WOW BLOWN AWAY BY SUCH GENEROSITY.

    spent the day with the cute pot SD. He wants to hang out for too many hours for too little money, and his weiner is tiny. I don’t think this is happening.

  157. Kathy says:

    Hi All,

    Thank you for the warm welcome.

    Micah… Sorry about the coffee experience… I had a similar situation this week… Guy claims to be a doctor… He stood me up for our initial meeting. Then he apologized… He had bronchitis and was running a fever and overslept.

    Okay… I was totally willing to forgive that… But then he wants to meet over at his house. I told him that I wanted to meet in public first and discuss our arrangement agreement. He offered to meet me at a MCDONALDS!!! And then go straight to his house to pound my a**!

    At this point, I just had to ask him if he had actually made an arrangement before and what kind of women he was making arrangements with. (Prostitutes? Dumb ones?)

    He said that he, “Usually younger than you but thought you looked hot enough.”

    Wow! Thank you! I’m so happy that you found me just barely attractive enough to stick your d*** in me. No wonder this guy is 44, divorced, and apparently f***ing 20-year-olds without the life experience to see through him. No woman with any sense would tolerate him!

    By the way, I’m 35, and my belly may not be as flat as it was when I was 18, but I have beautiful curves, an infectious smile, perfectly perky breasts, an insatiable sex drive, and a mind of my own. Thankfully, I’m in a situation where I can pick and choose my arrangements. So I don’t have to put up with a**holes like “the doctor.”

    On the bright side, I just met this guy on WYP… He lives out of state, but his mother lives near me, and he visits her several times a year. We both love hiking and climbing. He’s going to take me out for sushi and climb Pinnacle Mountain with me Wednesday. I’ve told him all about my plans to climb Mt. Rainier next year, and he’s TOTALLY stoked about maybe going with me… I am feeling an incredible connection! (YAY!!!)

  158. SugarySpicey says:

    Dash – no pics, just lots of dirty sex.

    Sweetie – Yeah, the day a writer gets to that level of confidence is the day they start churning out complete crap. But it’s nice to pretend when needed.

  159. sweetie says:

    Sugary “What if he thinks it’s terrible?”

    Well, then his loss, dear! I hope he knows better than that.

  160. Dashel says:

    Book? Are there pictures? Oh or pop ups? Those are fun.

    @Diana wow 40-50 blocks. So are there more fakes than genuine guys on here?

  161. SugarySpicey says:

    Sweetie – Surgeon isn’t a potential, he could potentially be a BF. We talked about everything, for hours, before he got all spooked. He’s totally open minded, it’s more that question, “What if he thinks it’s terrible?” I couldn’t stand the fake, polite, “Oh, it’s good, just not really my genre.”

  162. sweetie says:

    Sugary “the dinner hasn’t happened yet. But then I’m pretty sure after we discussed dinner he went and bought a copy of my book and the thought of him reading it is so painful I might have to hide from him forever.”

    Sugary, from now on, don’t tell potentials you wrote a book, unless they’re open minded enough…

  163. MicahSB says:

    Ohhhh I’m at the airport 😉 I really can’t wait to meet this POT. He sent a limo (town car) to pick me up and booked me a two way First class ticket for a 24 hour trip to go visit him :) also a nice room at the Hilton. I have 4 limos booked for every trip until the one that gets me back home from the airport (how classsssy! I’ve had flight paid for before but no one ever cared how I got to the airport!). I got the confirmation email from his American Express agent and he spent over 2k just to meet me!!! He said he would come at the airport but that I can chose to take the limo if I feel safer and that if I don’t like him than I have my escape plan and I am not in trouble ! This is getting me all giddy! Haha!
    He is a newb on the site , recently divorced, 4 children! I have no idea if he’s into the allowance thing although its pretty obvious he can afford it. I don’t know how I’m going to suggest it because I have a feelin he’s romanticizing me a little and might feel bad if I hussle… I will tell him that I’m looking for something fun and not too serious but I’m praying he is on the same page. We really get along (I would date him if that’s what I was looking for but I want to be single at all costs right now because of unresolved issues with the ex) , we have a real chemistry and shared numerous laughs (my deal maker ) how do I keep Him in the SD mind frame?

  164. SugarySpicey says:

    Rosie – the dinner hasn’t happened yet. But then I’m pretty sure after we discussed dinner he went and bought a copy of my book and the thought of him reading it is so painful I might have to hide from him forever.

  165. lil_tm says:

    “the worst part is hes not bad looking and im not that high maintenance… if he had remotely tried to impress me or charm me a bit i would absolutely show him my wild side and the allowance would add to my excitement! but he turned me off sooooo much because i can already picture him demanding everything im not comfortable with and clearly not caring.”

    In my opinion, a man who is genuinely interested in a girl cares about her comfort. That’s just the way it is because that’s what gentlemen do!
    I am sure we have all dated men who would offer us their coat if we were cold and we’ve all dated men who wouldn’t care if we had to walk home in a blizzard naked.
    I make a point to stay away from the latter…in sugar dating and in regular dating.

    Yea Micha..stick with #2. He’s being thoughtful enough to care that you are comfortable. It’s enough pressure already as a girl flying somewhere on your own to meet someone you’ve never met before.
    Let us know how it goes.

  166. DianaSBinOC says:

    I received a message from a really handsome SD but again I’m feeling the “fake vibe” and people wonder why I block. lol Saves me the trouble of getting yet another ridiculous message from one of them. I’m thinking this will make a total of 45 or 50 blocked fakes so far on this site alone. So glad that feature is available.

  167. Noob_SD says:

    @ Rosie Can I bounce off that yellow jello belly? Just once? Mmmmmm!

    If you’ll sit in my lap and rub my belly gently afterwards … for a while :)

  168. DianaSBinOC says:

    “$300 a week??? You could probably make that slinging 10-day old salami and salmonella infested turkey at your local Subway! Gross!! And he wouldn’t even buy you a discounted coffee mug? Ew. NEXT. Hope your pot SD #2 date is better. Keep us posted.”

    I got an offer of $200 a week while the guy sat on cam in his study slurping down Starbucks. He was 70. <—Not my type and that allowance? lol never going to happen.

    The fake I told you about? Well he tried to convince me he wasn't a fake and that we should meet. He gave me some user name for a site and that's when I found him on the fake list. Yah for google. He's wealthy but he gets off on getting women to do things and laughing when he provides nothing in return. That's his high for being on this site. I figured that out just chatting with him a few times which is why I kept blowing him off when he asked to meet:) Haha!

  169. Rosie says:

    Also, everyone. STOP calling this blog entry an article. You can’t really compare articles to blog entries, its like comparing a page in a book to a movie.

  170. Rosie says:

    @Spicey

    I want to hear more about this date with the surgeon!

  171. Rosie says:

    @MicahSB

    $300 a week??? You could probably make that slinging 10-day old salami and salmonella infested turkey at your local Subway! Gross!! And he wouldn’t even buy you a discounted coffee mug? Ew. NEXT. Hope your pot SD #2 date is better. Keep us posted.

    @Noob_SD

    Can I bounce off that yellow jello belly? Just once? Mmmmmm! 😉

  172. Noob_SD says:

    @ Beach Girl Noob_SD~ omg, on your gravatar you, did you lose weight??? lol

    I hope not. My previous avatar was making Jersey want to poke her eyes out. I did put on a shirt and pants … I aim to please :)

  173. Beach_Girl says:

    Noob_SD~ omg, on your gravatar you, did you lose weight??? lol

    Micha~ be careful and always have a plan. If you are going to see someone in another state. Be prepared, if something happens make sure you can be safe.

  174. Noob_SD says:

    @ MIcahSB

    Sorry to hear about the bad experience with the Coffee Shop SplendaDaddy. These Splenda Daddies make life difficult for the real SDs.

    On your upcoming meeting – Jersey gave you excellent advice. Be careful and always leave yourself an out – if you feel uncomfortable about anything, at anytime.

    Good luck :)

  175. Jersey Darling says:

    Micah,

    Be careful with flying to meet someone the first time. I did that (before I was ever on this site, but I was on a wealthy dating site) and when it was apparent we didn’t click within the first hour he left me alone the entire trip. It was awful – I had no car to get around or anything, and there’s nothing worse than the feeling of being stuck in a hotel room and he kept stringing me along, so I could never fully relax.

    Just FYI… good luck and be safe!

  176. Dashel says:

    Good luck with this second dude Micah, he sound infinitely better. First guy seems pathetic. Flyer nailed it though, better to find out quickly.

  177. flyr says:

    Micah – Sorry to hear of the disaster , sounds like a three striker

    reduced commitment from him

    increased commitment by you

    control freak

    Bright side of things – you got to see the best of him and you discovered it early

    It’s also possible he decided he was in over his head and rather than apologizing wanted you to say goodbye……

  178. MicahSB says:

    Well this is why i mentioned earlier i wasn’t desperate for an SD even if i was moving to a new city… ill keep looking till i get a good one and my dreams of lounging on a terrace drinking mimosas and shopping all day will wait :)
    On the plus side, Ive been chatting with another POT online who is very cuttttte and very interesting. the conversations with him are amazing and he makes me laugh a lot (basically dating material if thats what i was looking for). He is new to the concept so im not sure he is going to bring up any allowance … which is why i wasn’t taking him too seriously but he became very eager to meet over the last few days. He lives in another state so i told him he should come down on the weekend to meet because im not comfortable meeting someone for the first time in another state.
    Instead, suggested to pay for and send me confirmations for a 2 way flight, a hotel reservation ( so i don’t feel pressured to sleep at his house) and a car service that is picking me up from home to the airport and from the airport to the hotel and back home as well… all for one day and just to meet me. sounds like a winner! so I’m flying to meet him tomorrow. fingers crosssssed.

  179. SugarySpicey says:

    Sorry Micah – looks like you found a sampler! Gross! I hate the “do me everyday in everyway” for peanuts, pseudo-SD!

  180. Jeanandtshirt76 says:

    Been away for a little while, just wanted to thank everyone for their responses to my last post, pretty much what I figured, just wanted another opinion to make certain I was not losing my mind. I’ve decided I think it’s pretty much time to end it after finding out a few more things. Amazed at the games some people play!!

  181. MicahSB says:

    Just to let you know that the meeting with the POT SD was an epic FAIL!
    The pressure for sex wasnt only the predominant matter. It was unbearable! The SD lowered the allowance that was originally hinted and basically said that he would be willing to give me 300$ a week if i wer “good enough” “open minded” and “really fun”. I told him that i was busy with my 2 jobs and writing and that i needed some freedom so I would commit to make myself available at least twice a week and he basically brushed off my need for any personal time and said ; ” we will make time as much as possible, ill meet you for quick meetings between your shifts” UMMMM ! i said twice a weekkkkk!!!!! if you think im gonna go out of my way to include these “meetings” in my schedule EVERY DAY for 300$ a week? He isn’t married but wont even take me out for dinner…. we wer in a cofee shop and let me tell you, i looked AMAZING! He was nearly drooling … i pointed out a little coffee mug that was for sale in the coffee shop like “hey! this is adorable!” and he sarcastically laughed as in “im not buying you that”
    on to the next…. the worst part is hes not bad looking and im not that high maintenance… if he had remotely tried to impress me or charm me a bit i would absolutely show him my wild side and the allowance would add to my excitement! but he turned me off sooooo much because i can already picture him demanding everything im not comfortable with and clearly not caring.

  182. Beach_Girl says:

    Dashel~ awe :( sorry you didn’t get to your SB much …
    I think you’re right, a pretty face and no substance doesn’t last long!

  183. Dashel says:

    I’m sure there is some mathematical expression plotting hotness to personality. I know I give a pretty face every opportunity ;). But yeah it fades quick so it typically never gets off the ground really.

    I’m good thanks! Things are OK with the SB. She just got back from one trip and now heading out again so haven’t seen her much.

  184. Beach_Girl says:

    Dashel~ part of my post just got lost :( How have you been? How is the SB?

  185. Beach_Girl says:

    Dashel~ I’m good! working too hard but good 😀
    I haven’t been intimidated by someone in a while… wow, I think last time was at least 3 years ago, that I remember As for a great body, not sure I would “put up” with someone just because of that or a pretty face 😀 I dont like to play games, well those games 😛

  186. Dashel says:

    Hey BG how are things going for you? I went with something different for this blog initially but I ended up going back to what I’m used to.

    I think some people can be intimidated by a partner who is also adept and insightful. And then you have those willing to put up with someone because of a pretty face or a great body. This goes for men and women obviously . I don’t know if either are more or less prevalent here though.

  187. Beach_Girl says:

    Hello Sugars

    Jersey~ Awesome, I hope it works out for you sugar girl 😀

    Spicy~ How is the search? Diner with a surgeon?

    Dashel~ When you change the name? We all want the other person to bring something to the table. I would lose interest too if the other person couldn’t bring something to the relationship

  188. Dashel says:

    I was at a wedding last night and I was thinking about the SA blog when Prince’s “Kiss” came on.  Combined with the alcohol everyone on the dance floor was getting into it.  Such an affectionate bunch!  :)  I also had some good conversations with friends and family about the whole tradeoff of more money less personal time.  I have an opportunity to make more but I’m not sure of what the demands will be.  We will see how it shakes out.
     
    @Kathy I agree with what you said about SD’s bringing something to the arrangement.  I’d say that’s mandatory for me.  Everyone has something to bring, some more than others.  If you’re not adept at expressing yourself it’s a big negative and I’d lose interest quickly. 
     
    Good luck Jersey and Spice Girl! 

  189. Jersey Darling says:

    He was from SA. It was very good, hit a bit of a snag at the end though. There was a very good connection there and I really enjoyed my time with him and could see long term potential. The ball’s pretty much in his court now so it depends on if he wants to see me again and if he (hopefully) decides to sweep me off my feet!

  190. SugarySpicey says:

    No Jersey, it is upcoming we’re still figuring out a date. How was your date – SA or WYP?

  191. Jersey Darling says:

    Spicey, is dinner with the surgeon tonight? We want details!

  192. Johanna van Zanten says:

    So basically this is all just all about catching a sponsor to mutually gain some benefits, whatever those might be. I see an exploitation in this arrangements and the danger of being hurt for the person who is naive and finds a match that is exploitative or even dangerous. Too many women are exploited and been held as sex slaves or killed. There is no protection once one is taking off with this unknown person. What an uncomfortable arrangement. Well, those that do proceed with this basic arrangement based on greed, good luck. Is there possibly the underlying hope to catch this person or otherwise manipulate him or get him/her to provide the benefits in a more permanent arrangement?
    It rather stinks in my view, as human relationships require more than mutual exploitation and some of us are striving for mutuality and equality in relationships.

  193. Rosie says:

    ⌃⌃ Those things should be an obvious given, but you never know with some people.

  194. Rosie says:

    The “walk-away” message I felt the blog post was trying to convey is:

    – Be grateful for the luxury trip your SD is giving you.
    – Be self-sufficient and plan your own things outside of seeing your SD between his meetings.
    – Be open to your SD’s suggestions on things to do in whatever city/country you’re in.

  195. FatBastardSD says:

    @flyr

    “If I were a SB and read the blog topic intro I would be reaching for the poultry shears and looking for Brandon. It’s an incredible insult to SB’s of all levels .

    Only the true bimbo would want to limit her HK adventures to the spa. It’s an incredible opportunity to get out do things, meet people , try things, boat rides, watching people shop , learn some history etc, enjoy the architecture, the list is endless.”

    I think there has been an error in reading comprehension. The article makes no implication that a SB in HK would only want to visit a spa. Maybe I have missed your point but then again I don’t understand most of your postings anyway.

  196. Noob_SD says:

    @ flyr If I were a SB and read the blog topic intro I would be reaching for the poultry shears and looking for Brandon.

    I think Brandon has moved on. I haven’t been around here/sugaring long enough, but I am not sure if he is planning for growth of this site any more. The site quite frankly is pretty archaic – but minimal upgrades coupled with maximum marketing would keep this a cash cow for some time. I wouldn’t be surprised if the competition eats into that pretty soon – so he would be looking for growth elsewhere. When I say competition, I am talking about other dating sites offering the option to check “Will you consider an SD/SB relationship?” “Allowance amount/range?” “Meeting frequency?” This may exist already – if it does, it is my ignorance, as I don’t go to those sites.

    With that being said, society will get conditioned, if things go down this direction, that dating = allowance ($). Almighty lucre rules. Speaking of which, I read a profile from an SB about how she goes to church 3 times a week or more – but she is looking for an SD/SM arrangement. Her profile name is “holyghostchick”. Almost wrote to her asking, what a god loving/fearing woman is doing in a site that caters to philanderers.

  197. flyr says:

    If I were a SB and read the blog topic intro I would be reaching for the poultry shears and looking for Brandon. It’s an incredible insult to SB’s of all levels .

    Only the true bimbo would want to limit her HK adventures to the spa. It’s an incredible opportunity to get out do things, meet people , try things, boat rides, watching people shop , learn some history etc, enjoy the architecture, the list is endless.

    Some of the wise SBs here would probably offer the advice to understand that sugar is highly perishable and when you travel do some research but also be open to opportunities.

    ) . There’s a lot places in the world where American may not be able to travel in 5 years.

    It raises the question of the vision driving SA………….. Sometimes they seem to be running a rescue mission for those who lacked the intellectual ability to make it as a vegas showgirl. It’s far from the reality and the opportunity.

    Switch Rant Mode Off – Ride Bike

  198. SugarySpicey says:

    Flyr – the problem with your scenario is that if a lady really enjoys your company, and then you end up upstairs, assuming that goes well for both, she’s going to get an oxytocin boost that makes her want to bond just as you’re ready to leave town. That is not a feeling us girls like.

  199. flyr says:

    @BeachGirl ” I have gotten those emails that say “I’m in your town next week, want to hang out?” I hate that. It makes me feel like a tour guide/escort.”

    Your’r absolutely right if it is conceived in that manner. Much better if it is focused on potentially doing something and it’s clear that there’s no commitment at each step

    meeet for late AM coffee at a nice place on the river

    if there’s comfort we go rafting with a pickup group
    , the guide’s flexible on last minute change

    done with rafting we decide if we want to share dinner
    it’s casual

    at the end of dinner we decide if we want to go further.

    The key is that at each step there’s fun and if there is no next step it’s not a wasted day. It lets the SB maintain the initiative which I think is really good for both at this stage.

    And yes, I have had one or two decide after coffee or the rafting that it was fun but time to say goodbye. The flip side the SB can also suggest that she come up the night before

    Kept classy and obligation (on the part of the SB) free it can work well. Just my thoughts.

    It’s not some stroke of wisdom, but rather built on the ashes of failure

  200. SugarySpicey says:

    Eeeeee! Dinner plans with the surgeon, he got my book and wants me to sign it. (What’s the emoticon for squealing like a teenager while trying to play it cool?)

  201. lil_tm says:

    ^Yup, that will get the juices flowing for sure.

  202. SugarySpicey says:

    Kathy, “I love the adrenaline rush of having someone who looks forward to seeing me and finds me exciting, mysterious, and desirable…”

    Amen sister! That’s what I enjoy about the sugar bowl, it amplifies desire and desire ability.

  203. sweetie says:

    Hehehe, Cruella Deville! Sorry, dears, sometimes these profiles just rub me the wrong way and I can’t help but send something mischievous in return. Who would have thunk sweetie was such a law and order girl…?! A ver cuantos machos me odiaran manana… pobrecita dulcecita. :)

  204. sweetie says:

    I’m incorrigible sometimes! Better make a career out of it.

  205. sweetie says:

    Oh, Robin Hood is out on SA tonight! Run and hide!!!

  206. sweetie says:

    Had some vino tonight and some latino music, it feels nice to live! Anybody salsa here?

  207. sweetie says:

    flyr, you little poet! that’s a little much, dear.
    I love poets, they’re just not up to the real world, sorry.
    such a heartbreak!!! ouch, still hurting!

  208. Flyer says:

    Re blog “topic”

    It’s like the scorpions served at the old trader Vic’s . Each came with a gardenia floating in a seashell filled with a rum drink. The fresh gardenia was there to remind you it was a new drink but without deeper meaning.

  209. Flyer says:

    @kathy. – keeping lives private does not mean not mean not sharing a lot of things within the sugar relationship. There are rewards from taking the time to share an assortment of vertical time especially if one has knowledge, access, interests that are new to the partner or just take the time to do things that are special to both

  210. Beach_Girl says:

    Hello Sugars!

    Kathy~ Welcome to the blog, This is a place to rant, get advice and have fun 😀
    This blog post was bad, it is as Noob_SD said, promotion for their sister site. In bad taste too. Not every SD is looking for arm candy or only to have sex. There is someone for everyone. It takes time to find them.

    Noob_SD~ I agree that it’s hard on SA to find someone that understands. I believe that it’s all the promotions Brandon is doing, saying things like “every guy can be a SD, you don’t need money” etc. And a lot of SDs & SBs are here for the wrong reasons.
    I am sure you are not along in wanting to find someone that is more than arm candy, I certainly want to be more than that. Not that I’m all that, but wouldn’t like to be referred as such. I want someone to have a connection/chemistry etc…

    Wow, I can’t think, it’s too hot lol.. it’s over 100 F and there is no wind, I have no air conditioning (the damn thing broke) and I am hot!!!

  211. Noob_SD says:

    @ Kathy SDs are not the only ones with something to bring to the arrangement… SBs can also provide wisdom and mentorship… Some of us are much more than arm candy.

    Ignore the article … I am not finding any substance in that article either. Someone above aptly said that SA is promoting their travel arrangement site. I, for one, have no interest in an arm candy. Nor am I seeking an SB for a physical only relationship. I doubt whether I am alone in this. The difficult part is finding someone who is on the same wavelength as you are. I have not been successful on SA in the last 2 months. It is not all because I didn’t find what/who I was looking for – schedule can be a spoiler as well.

    Again… Please excuse my rant… I just needed to get that off of my chest.

    No need to be excused. This blog (comments) is for ranting, fighting (arguing) and sometimes fun stuff. Can be entertaining sometimes :)

  212. Dashel says:

    “I tend to remember the good times, and then my mind plays tricks on me to the tune of, “hmmm was it really that bad”

    Oh god yeah that’s dangerous. Funny you mention that I had that just today. I came across a gift from an ex and started thinking about her. Wonder how she’s doing, we had so much fun, laughed all the time blah blah blah… I should give her a call…

    NEWP! Bad idea. She was great but to call our relationship mercurial would be an understatement. Better to stick to our few texts every 3 months or so. Safer that way. 😐

  213. lil_tm says:

    “I just wish I could think back on them fondly, like a really great vacation, rather than with regret and sadness.”

    Well, if you’re thinking about your bf that passed away, that’s a lil different….and perfectly normal, I would think. 😀

  214. lil_tm says:

    “I’ve actually found I can do that. It must be my mutant power: blocking out all the crazy and remembering the fun times.”

    This is exactly why I think a memory erase pill would be a good idea.
    I tend to remember the good times, and then my mind plays tricks on me to the tune of, “hmmm was it really that bad” 😉

  215. Dashel says:

    If you really loved someone it’s delightful to think back on that time with them. I just wish I could think back on them fondly, like a really great vacation, rather than with regret and sadness.
    Spice

    I’ve actually found I can do that. It must be my mutant power: blocking out all the crazy and remembering the fun times.

  216. Dashel says:

    Communication is so important. And when you try to and get no reciprocation, you may as well hang it up.
    lil

    I finally learned that lesson not too long ago. As long as I tried though it makes it easier to accept, whatever the outcome. Cant fix everything!

  217. SugarySpicey says:

    TM – I would hate to lose the good memories. If you really loved someone it’s delightful to think back on that time with them. I just wish I could think back on them fondly, like a really great vacation, rather than with regret and sadness.

  218. lil_tm says:

    ^Or a memory eraser pill would be just groovy.

  219. Kathy says:

    “What man doesn’t love vacationing with arm candy at his beck and call.”

    Please excuse me… I realize that there are many different types of individuals who come to this site with different desires and needs. But as a SB I am somewhat offended at the idea of a potential SD reducing me to the role of arm candy… Outside of the “sugar world,” I am an accomplished woman and so much more than a bobble to dangle from a man’s arm.

    I began my adult life as a homeless, 17-year-old high school dropout. When I gave birth to my first daughter at 19, I did everything in my power to become an example of the woman I wanted my daughter to become. I graduated college with honors. I’ve had a very successful career in the nonprofit world, and I’ve dedicated the last six years of my life building programs to transform people’s lives so that they can find a path out of homelessness to a sustainable life.

    Unfortunately, my divorce has left me in an uncomfortable financial situation, and my chosen vocation in the nonprofit sector does not provide the income needed to support myself and two teenagers. Additionally, I deeply enjoy catering to the needs of a man… I love the adrenaline rush of having someone who looks forward to seeing me and finds me exciting, mysterious, and desirable…

    Earlier today, I read the profile of a man who said that he wants an arrangement where each party keeps their private lives private… I know that he meant that he doesn’t want a drama queen pouring all of her problems onto him… and I agree… I don’t want someone wining to me about all of his problems either. However, when you make an arrangement that is strictly physical, you cut off the opportunity to share your stories and experiences… It’s an opportunity for growth and mentorship. SDs are not the only ones with something to bring to the arrangement… SBs can also provide wisdom and mentorship… Some of us are much more than arm candy.

    Again… Please excuse my rant… I just needed to get that off of my chest.

    Please have a blessed journey all…

  220. SugarySpicey says:

    Lil & Guru – reading Guru’s blog reminded me of something: watching someone else’s heartbreak trainwreck is always so uncomfortable – you can see it coming! But for whatever reason, when we’re in the line of fire for heartbreak we can’t do schnitt to prevent it. Forget Viagra, create an “I’m totally over you” pill and we’d all do better.

  221. lil_tm says:

    @Guru
    Re: Mixing Love & Sugar

    That is really unfortunate and it’s situations like those that scare us about jumping into relationships. I’d imagine part of the reason you had a hard time moving on is because you were completely bamboozled and wanted to decipher how it happened.

    I have been in a similar situation in regular dating where a person sort of gets a hold on you and don’t see it coming and then you’re left standing wondering what the hell happened. The silver lining is that you and I both dodged a bullet in those situations…not that it makes it hurt any less when it’s actually happening. :(

    It’s hard, because even if you are truthful and authentic to try and avoid issues down the road, that doesn’t ensure that the other is paying you the same respect. Communication is so important. And when you try to and get no reciprocation, you may as well hang it up.

    I believe that last e-mail was from her and I don’t think her husband, if she even had one, knew about you.

    But we learn from our mistakes, right? *hugs*

  222. Beach_Girl says:

    Hello Sugars!
    100F and no air conditioning?!?!? crap…

    I wouldn’t go on a trip with someone I didn’t know, I sure wouldn’t feel comfortable.
    Going away with a SD is different, you know them, like them and know you are safer.
    Flyr~ I have gotten those emails that say “I’m in your town next week, want to hang out?” I hate that. It makes me feel like a tour guide/escort.
    I am sure you send out a better message than that.

    I had a SD friend here in town this week, it was nice to hang out with him, but I’ve known him a while and we are friends. I was the tour guide, because I wanted to be. Although it wasn’t a great time of year for visiting, it rained most of the week, he got to see my city and It was fun. It’s different when a SD is a friend lol.. just saying 😀

    Have a good one Sugars

  223. AngieDarling says:

    Boo…How come it does not show my photo?

  224. flyr says:

    I’m with JD on some skepticism on blind trips…….. I have arranged to go on trips with potential SB’s as a first date but the deal was that we would meet at the general aviation terminal, talk and go for coffee to see if it was really a good idea.

    This was done under the SA umbrella but with the mutual understanding that it would be an occasional travel arrangement. One of the best all time mini-vacations (very nice beachfront hotel in a small fishing town)

    I have also had good experiences just contacting SB’s in the area where I go flyfishing /rafting / hiking and asking if they are interested in spending time together. It’s developed into occasional but long lasting sugar relationships

  225. Jersey Darling says:

    @The blog post

    Just another advertising piece for their sister website, why would you expect an in depth article? 😉 But I’ve considered using that site… although I’m personally scared of the idea of traveling with a complete stranger until I know them better. Have any of you guys used it?

  226. Jersey Darling says:

    @Spicey – 6 inch heels to Home Depot?! *faints*

    You should give me heel walking lessons! Haha. I can do heels and do have one six inch pair, but while I’ll wear them out occasionally (like if I know I’ll be sitting most of the night hehe) I mostly save them for the bedroom.

    My date was very, very good :) Hoping to see him again soon!

  227. Lo says:

    Grab you Sugar Daddy and vacation in the lap of luxury!

    Love. You is the new your.

  228. sweetie says:

    “What man doesn’t love vacationing with arm candy at his beck and call.” Wow, this sounds crass! And I thought both parties want to be there and it’s not an obligation for the SB ’cause she’s getting paid.

    @Bastardito “You are not paying an allowance, we are.
    That is all :) .”

    SDs, if you resent giving the allowance, don’t be a SD!

    @Damien, I initiate contact as well when I see a profile I like, no biggie at all.

  229. Lo says:

    lol you guys are cracking me up right now…

  230. Beach_Girl says:

    Hey Spicey! How have you been?

  231. Beach_Girl says:

    This Article is bad, I mean if you chose to go on vacation with your SD, wouldn’t you be happy ? Leave the attitude at home lol… omg…

  232. SugarySpicey says:

    Hey Beach!

    Good luck with the date Jersey?

  233. AngieDarling says:

    This was an interesting read. I’m new to the sugar bowl and feel like i’m still learning. I just went on my first trip with my sugar daddy and it was AMAZING. Here is what i learned:

    1. Zero drama.
    -It seemed like my sugar daddy was so used to being with “crazy” high drama women that he actually wasn’t used to being with a women who had a good head on her shoulders, relaxed and confident. At first we struggled because he seemed to be trying to instigate drama… Or he would accuse me of feeling or behaving like a princess, drama queen, nothings-good-enough-for-me, etc.
    Eventually after several talks a few days into our trip, he relaxed, he realized i wasn’t going to suddenly turn into this raging drama queen. I had a very go-with-the-flow attitude and i let him lead the way. In the end he said it was his best trip, and we are planning the next one 😉

    2. Be grateful.
    -It’s good for your spirit. Just don’t waste your energy trying to be a bitch. Just don’t.

    3. Show your excitement.
    -My SD told me how much pleasure he got out of watching my excitement. It makes him feel good about himself, and perhaps he is even living some of the excitement through you. But be genuine.

    4. Don’t expect anything.
    -You know what your arrangement is. I knew he was paying for the trip and meals, But i never expected anything outside of that. Everything else became a wonderful surprise!

    5. He wants you to make him look good.
    -Smile, be pleasant, confident, calm, friendly, laughing, charming, funny, smart… We went to a pool party and even some of the women were commenting to him how sweet i was. Which then attracts attention to him. And of course i’m going to let him enjoy that attention, and not get jealous. He will adore you more for it in the end.
    Also, don’t talk only about yourself when socializing. I would include stories about the two of us and experiences we shared, or tell him to tell that story about ‘that one time’.

    6. Give him a little bit of space each day.
    -I never made a fuss if he wanted to go golfing with the boys or do his own thing. He needs his down time and so do you. You give him some space and he will look forward to seeing your smile again (and he will probably be thinking about you while he’s gone).

    7. Read him.
    -Find your groove together. Figure out his personality type, his likes, dislikes, turn ons and try to compliment that. If you can read him and just naturally know what he wants or doesn’t want, you’ll be the best company ever.

    8. Give respect and expect respect.
    -I know i said no expectations, but i always expect my SD to respect me. I admire him, I’m respectful and polite so there are no excuses for him to not treat me the same.

    Just a few suggestions i learned from my experience. Happy travels! xo

  234. Beach_Girl says:

    Hello Sugars!

  235. SugarySpicey says:

    Softi- it’s not a freebee, I don’t sell. But, perhaps you could be so very adoring and devoted that you could make me feel like you were, in fact, the most desirable man I’ve ever met.

    Then I would have no choice but to rub your neck while you kneeled in front of my chair with your face nestled between my legs. Need a diagram?

  236. FatBastardSD says:

    @SugarySpicey

    “A man I was with would only ever feel attractive, smart, and powerful. I only mention reality on the blog.”

    That is a good start. But to really make it believable you need to internalize these thoughts. I recommend you do 100 affirmations in the mirror every:

    My SD is the sexiest man alive. FatBastard deserves a freebee

    would probably do the trick.

  237. ContentSB says:

    @FB — Haha…well, I removed myself from sugar awhile ago…so maybe I’ve lost the entitlement attitude that I was probably guilty of at one point. I’ll do my best to keep that at bay :)

  238. SugarySpicey says:

    Softi – “You are not paying an allowance, we are. That is all.”

    A man I was with would only ever feel attractive, smart, and powerful. I only mention reality on the blog.

  239. FatBastardSD says:

    @ Principium @Dashel

    “This most definitely has a bearing as to why there are so many men on SA looking and hoping for a GF.”

    To be fair, some of us SD’s need a little extra help (in the form of an allowance) to get over the hurdles that out personalities and appearance give us. Thank god so many women are gold diggers :-).

  240. FatBastardSD says:

    @ContentSB

    “It seems like common sense to be grateful for the experience and not whine/complain…and if you’re not totally narcissistic you would expect your SD to have other engagements and be willing to do things he might be interested in during his free time. But evidently not?”

    You are obviously an “outlier” SB in terms of attitude. Don’t be tempted by the dark side…

  241. FatBastardSD says:

    @DorkyGuy

    I never realized you had a humanitarian streak in you.

    @Guru

    My attitude must be influenced by my distain for women :-).

    @SugarySpicy

    “Why can your eyes see the effects of age but we’re supposed to be blind to it?”

    The answer to this is so obvious I thought that even SB’s would get it but for those who don’t here it is:

    You are not paying an allowance, we are.

    That is all :-).

  242. ContentSB says:

    Huh — This article isn’t quite what I was expecting…granted, I understand it’s probably difficult to consistently come up with new material revolving around 1 subject matter…but I was kind of hoping for…more? It seems like common sense to be grateful for the experience and not whine/complain…and if you’re not totally narcissistic you would expect your SD to have other engagements and be willing to do things he might be interested in during his free time. But evidently not?

  243. SugarySpicey says:

    Jersey, from the last blog:

    Lol, Jersey, I wore six inch heels to Home Depot this weekend. But I think it’s different when you’re super curvy you don’t have as much leeway (you’d tip over)! I look pretty Alice and Wonderland innocent IRL, so I can get away with slutty shoes. And I wear a lot of red.

  244. SugarySpicey says:

    So the skirt may have been scooted up an inch, or three for Gravatar effect. But, I don’t think men hold a short skirt against you, as long as you don’t go super short + cleavage before 5:00, and you can pull it off without looking chunky or jiggly.

    • SD Guru says:

      @lil_tm & FatBastard

      Interesting discussion about NSA from the previous blog. Here’s my take on it: “What is NSA?“.

      @Dashel
      “Speaking of ordinary dating sites, whats the ratio of men to women on SA?”

      On SA the ratio is about 1 to 10. On regular dating sites it’s usually 50/50 or worse for men. Here’s my take on “Sugar Dating vs Regular Dating“.

  245. Dashel says:

    Ha I see. Looks hot, proceed.

  246. SugarySpicey says:

    Dash – All he needs to pay attention to is telling his buddy that I’m hot. I’ll be more appropriately attired when I see him again next week.

  247. Dashel says:

    Whadda ya think gents, skirt too short for the Doctor’s Office?

    Yes if he’s doing anything that requires him to pay attention. :)

  248. Noob_SD says:

    What a lame article!

  249. SugarySpicey says:

    Whadda ya think gents, skirt too short for the Doctor’s Office?

  250. SugarySpicey says:

    Nope Dash, I’m a blonde, and I don’t put a face pic on my profile.

  251. DorkyGuy says:

    We should all do our part…

    [img]http://now.msn.com/squeezing-breasts-can-stop-cancer[/img]

  252. Dashel says:

    Sloppy seconds.

    Of the guys I’ve actually met from SA… I think it’s been about a 50/50 split on whether I approached them first or vice versa.

    Jersey

    Ah ok cool. Yeah I get a lot more messages here than expected but given the ratio I suppose it makes sense. I have to say *most* of the women here give half ass messages. I just looked back and I actually got a really good one. But she’s in Utah. Spicey are you a redhead? :p

    Dashel-you know how to hold a discussion with a girl, so you have that going for you. I know it sounds silly, but most guys on there don’t even have that going for them.
    I’m used to, “Hey girl, can I get your digits” or naked pics I didn’t ask for. Yea…well thought out intro, buddy!

    lil_

    That’s what kills me. Cant even get to the discussion. My well thought out, funny, clever, concise interesting email is being drowned out by idiots derping spam emails of dick shots and one liners. 😉

    For the umpteenth time, regular dating site if a guy is > 40 years of year = COMPLETE SH*T SHOW!

    Even women who may not get a second look on the main street, will get inundated with messages. This most definitely has a bearing as to why there are so many men on SA looking and hoping for a GF.

    Principium

    Amen brother. Testify.

  253. Angela says:

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