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Sugar Slang
  • Posted Mar 1, 2016

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Welcome to the Sugar Bowl, gents! Below are some Sugar slang terms that every Sugar Daddy should familiarize himself with.

POT

stands for Potential Sugar Daddy. You are considered a POT up until an arrangement has been mutually agreed upon by you and your Sugar Baby. After the messages have been exchanged and a first date or first meeting has been set, the only thing left is to determine if you two share chemistry. If chemistry is there and the connection is genuine, the chances of solidifying an arrangement are pretty much guaranteed.  

NSA 

No Strings Attached, or “friends with benefits”. NSA is simply an agreed upon condition that you will both check your emotions at the door, and not let them get involved with your arrangement. This is an ideal arrangement for people who are looking for something outside of a traditional relationship, or in addition to. But that doesn’t mean that two people don’t care about one another. The allure of an NSA arrangement is that it simply sets both parties up for an honest relationship that could be built off a friendship, without the pressure of a commitment.

Please note, there is no transaction occurring in an NSA relationship, just two people who have agreed to have a non-traditional relationship. Again, NSA is simply a scenario where two people hang out,  maybe sleep together, but do not make a commitment to each other.

Splenda 

Try as he might, a Splenda Daddy is a man who strives to be a SD, but just doesn’t have the funds to pull it off. He may be sweet and charming and the perfect gentleman, however, his finances, his professional life and his personal life are in disarray. He simply does not meet the requirements of a Sugar Daddy.

Salt Daddy

The complete opposite of a Sugar Daddy, a Salt Daddy is one who tries to impersonate, but is broke and has no intention of picking up the bill, ever. He can neither afford, nor offer a Sugar Baby any beneficiary means. A Salt Daddy aims to deceive unsuspecting SBs and typically tries to rush the intimacy aspect of a relationship (i.e. asking for nude photos upfront). Red Flag.
What are some Sugar slang terms you want to share, or want more information about?

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1,036 Responses to “Sugar Slang”

  1. Darby says:

    Hello to all.

    I am very new to this world of SD SB. I also don’t fall in with mainstream as well. I will be blunt I’m a 42 year old punk rocker.I Would like to know The likely hood of me finding a SD.I feel that a SD is the only way to be exposed to culture other than poverty I am extremely intelligent but I can experience the things I’d like and I don’t like games and it seems like a SD is he he best way for me to go.I want to learn everything in life I can.And want to truly live life and have lots of sex with the right person.I am finding it hard to present myself in a way mainstream Society would even give me a chance any help would be much appreciated

  2. Anonymous says:

    why haven’t I seen this yet! I have come across so many Salt Daddies, now I know what to look for and what not to do!

  3. rcheli says:

    Two Bagger. One for her and one for me in case hers falls off.

  4. erika says:

    you should add eye cabbage, lol instead of eye candy xD

  5. PychoKiller says:

    sugar slang = whore talk

  6. SweetYoungNatalia says:

    It’s nice to have a reference on what these sugar terms mean. It’s very helpful for someone who is brand new to this lifestyle. I’d like to see more articles in how to avoid a salt daddy. That would be very helpful and sure would avoid drama.

  7. Sugarlushsugar says:

    Reyna, you look pretty, and smart. Good luck! Just remove the “high” expectation. First meet should be short. Like 1h. I have committed the error of hanging out for too long and it turned out horrible (I got so drunk hahaha and treated him like a regular guy).
    Pay your taxy but ask him to refund when you meet. If he doesn’t, he’s not getting another meet up, obviously.
    And don’t bring your kid as an excuse for short meeting, or anything. 4 y o child is not a baby anymore. They are funny little guys with personality. I don’t have children, but it’s the cutest age! You can find a babysitter or kindergarden is good option.

    @anonymous Umm….what is she supposed to write in the “about me” and “what I’m looking for” then? Of course about her self. It is actually nice that she has plans and motivation, and SD could write the art space under his company and get some tax reductions thanks to it.
    PS! I don’t like SD who can’t write profiles. They write some bs where they should be writing about themselves and what they are looking for. It does’t seem credible if they can’t fill even that simple form.

    • Another anonymous says:

      @ Sugarlush

      Sure, she will write about herself. But it would be nice to include where her plans and the plans of her POT SD will intersect. This way it looks that he is expected to be among the very top providers with a very specific list of requirements and he is promised a very nondescript hell of a time.

      • Anonymous says:

        So sugarlush, with such a weak profile then the only thing a SD can use to determine a POT SB is with her looks. Sorry to say but Reyna’s looks do not justify what she is asking for. A HIGH expectation demands top 1% in looks. We are talking Miss USA or Vic Sec models. Reyna is far from it.

      • Anonymous says:

        You really think only top 1% can be given a high or substantial lifestyle in every case? Have you not seen some gfs and wives, and affairs of uber wealthy men? You think only the hottest women in the world reap high financial rewards for their time with men.

        You are wrong and are stupid fool.

      • Another anonymous says:

        @ Anonymous

        Well wifes do not exactly count, unless we see their pictures from the time the got married. :-)

        And yes, there are men that can dedicate 200k of their pretax income to sugar. And one of them can end up in an arrangement with Reyna. But these men are rare, Colorado Springs is not the best place to look for them and finding them might require very long time.

        Reyna is asking for a car, a place to live and a cell phone. she also stated that such things as taxi or babysitting are a problem for her. So it does not seem that she has a lot of time to wait for the arrangement on the high level, that would be a statistical oddity.

    • Sugarlushsugar says:

      Yes, sure “high” (8000.-) is not correct. Not sure about living cost over there though.

      Maybe delete some of the expectations. I mean no stranger will come and fix all your life.
      Asking a flat is not wise, you should be able at least to provide a home for yourself. Imagine if he gets bored – then you are homeless.

      • Anonymous says:

        If they like you and are generous enough, believe me they will.

      • Sugarlushsugar says:

        Maybe… I’m new here too.

        But it seems scarry to live only on sombodys money. I need independence. Otherwise I’d marry one of the guys I am dating.

        The ideal case for me is that SD gives me money for what I need for my professional life and career. And ofcourse some extra to buy some sexy lingerie. Never ever I want SD to be my only income.

      • HunniDarling says:

        I agree with @sugarlushsugar on this one.

      • HunniDarling says:

        Its supposed to be fun…’dating’…not and end all be all.

  8. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Anonymous

    Maybe Reyna did not notice, what high means, true. But even wore red flag is the request for credit card on top of allowance. Overall with the things she mentioned about her career, art interests and plans for her daughter, she will have tough time here. Basically she is planning to be a stay at home spouse with expensive hobby and a child from previous relationship. I wish her good luck looking for the top one percenter who will fulfil those dreams, but it might be a long wait.

  9. Guest says:

    There are many more gorgeous intelligent classy naughty well adjusted women over 20.
    Very much the case in Australia.

  10. Guest says:

    CLARITY Please :)
    This post states that “Please note, there is no transaction occurring in an NSA relationship, just two people who have agreed to have a non-traditional relationship.”

    Q: is not a SD-SB r’ship ‘non-traditional’ and no strings attached?
    Theres fore you could have:
    SD-SB NSA relationship
    SD-SB bf-gf type relationship

  11. Another Anonymous says:

    @ IHF2030

    Welcome back Sir, nice to see you here.

  12. Reyna P. says:

    I am curious as to the whole monetary thing. Every POT that I have spoken with wants to meet first. But they don’t want to pay for my kid’s babysitter, or my cab fare, or any other minor pre-date necessity. I may sound uppity but I am struggling as a single mom going though a divorce without child support and starting from scratch to rebuild my child’s life and mine…..and I simply do not have the funds necessary to get dressed up, rent a car or take a cab, take off work for the weekend, pay a babysitter, etc. etc. What is appropriate to ask or do in this situation? Is it okay to ask for money up front? Do some men actually offer and really come through and pay for expenses like these? Are there any men willing to start the arrangement as an online arrangement and then working from there to meet up for the first time, but also still paying the SB? Thanks for reading, I hope to get some good answers soon haha. Have fun out there!! Cheers, Reyna

    • Another anonymous says:

      Dear Reyna:

      Your profile will make it very dificult. For the starters you are asking for high allowance, that is $ 120,000 yearly after taxes, more than 200k in pretax income. Very few guys will even look at your profile at that requirement. As to on line arrangements, those are even less frequent. So you have very much decreased the pool of potential SDs.

      And if there is a potential SD who is able to afford to drop 200k a year on you and on what appears to take care of your career and daughter, he will definitely expect that you will be willing to put A LOT of effort in an attempt to secure him as a SD. Not to offer just an on line arrangement, while getting above 10k a month.

      On the other hand, there are guys who will pay for the expenses of the meet and greet. And the meet and greet should not require to take off for the weekend, it should be a short meet in a local coffee place.

      I hope this helps a bit, but the first things you need to do is to polish your profile and to decide whether 10k is a realistic target.

      • Anonymous says:

        10k is realistic if it weren’t online only.

      • Anonymous says:

        $10k for a month or two perhaps, and then you will be back on the search for a year or longer for the next stint.

      • Anonymous says:

        Looked at Reyna’s profile. Nothing in it says what she has to offer for 1K/mo much less than 10K/mo. It is all about her. She wants this, she wants that. Her looks do not justify her expectation. Plus she’s a smoker with a child. Is she for real? Another example of sugar delusion.

      • Anonymous says:

        She may not have understood what “High” means on SA. Sure, smoking and having a kid by a loser dad (as evidenced by her need to be on SA due to lack of car or a place to live) are problems. OTOH, she is not asking for much: “a junker” car, “a cheap apartment,” etc.

        She is decent looking, for now; may still have 2-5 years left in her, especially if she can quit smoking.

      • Anonymous says:

        Oh good lord…

    • Another anonymous says:

      @ Anonymous

      But of course, 10k a month is absolutely realistic. Btw what currency are you talking about? :-)

      • Anonymous says:

        you’re an idiot.

      • Anonymous says:

        The currency which Arab men offer, probably even more. :)

      • Anonymous says:

        What Arab men? The Qaddafi father and sons have not been looking for any SB for 5 years.

        The Gulf sheiks and their scat-loving gang have lowered their one week of no-holds-barred sport-f*ck and scatting by multiple men and dogs from $100k to about $10-30k. That’s a once-in-a-life time, or at most once-in-a-few-years, “opportunity” if you are into that. They are not interested in having you back every week or every month or even every year.

    • IHF2030 says:

      Amazing, time for some Guinness and cashew.

    • Zach says:

      “Do some men actually offer and really come through and pay for expenses like these?”

      Yes, some of us do.

      “Are there any men willing to start the arrangement as an online arrangement and then working from there to meet up for the first time, but also still paying the SB?”

      I would not believe there are. There is no way to know if you wish to have an arrangement with a woman you haven’t even met.

      • SugarD says:

        @Anon -whoever
        In the end my comment is for @Reyna -from one SD’s opinion. What she is doing so far isn’t working for her . You know the old saying about doing the same thing expecting different outcomes -craaaazy !

        I think I would be OK with a Pot bringing her baby to a M&G-like a coffee thing ,not drinks and dinner . I once had an SB who lived 2 hrs out of town . She was a single Mom and we worked around the Baby’s sleep/wake cycles at her home . It sucked actually. We had private time with the baby screaming in the next room . After the 3rd visit I decided to hit it and go back home instead of spending the night .I spent enough years with my own kids doing that stuff.

      • SugarD says:

        Posted in the wrong stream

      • erika says:

        ive met a few who will pay for play online..

    • SugarD says:

      @Reyna ,you are going to have to make an investment in your business- and that is the business of Sugar ,Inc. Even the SBA won’t give interest free loans . Some Pots might give you cab money and pay for a sitter ,but you are talking $100 to meet someone who is a total unknown to them . Get yourself to a local coffee shop near your home ,take the baby if you have to.

      SDs want their SB’s undivided attn. Unfortunately, a single Mom’s #1 is the baby -bar none. So it will be harder for you to attract a guy who wants to work around your parenting schedule .

      The High ask is absolutely a non starter and you should drop it to Negotiable anyway. Get in the game and the right SD might appear. Girls who ask High I will not even see. They are either ignorant of the realities or haven’t read what High stands for .

      • Anonymous says:

        Take the baby if you have to, wtf? That’s bad parenting, can’t believe you’re condoning it. Second, a baby is everyone’s priority, whether single mom, single dad, couple, you name it. A sugar daddy doesn’t come before your offspring, that’s just common sense.
        And lastly, nobody cares about who you see, as many people filter differently and have different budgets, not to mention you might not even be in the same country as her. She is not looking for pay per meet types, so she won’t be looking at you either. High stands for high, let’s make it simple. You either afford it or you don’t but cannot simply ignore it as many (or the majority actually) girls will put just that, and some can pull it off, some cannot.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Anon 9:16am

        A single dad on SA trying to be an SB would have an even harder time than a single mom trying to be an SB. However, most single dads on SA are SD’s! That means he has plenty resources to hire people to look after his children when going out on a date, very likely the mother of the children or regular babysitters that he uses frequently. A single mom would not have any difficulty becoming an SM, finding either a male or female SB, if she can afford it; however, most women with money prefer not to pay for any SB, male or female. In fact, most SD’s ex-wives have no difficulty dating, thanks to child support from SD’s.

        Anything is possible, but a person’s time/effort/resources are limited. Chasing statistical tail events are for the dumb people doomed to failure. Finding a High as a smoker single mom is as likely as winning the lottery, or getting hit by a car driven by a billionaire and subsequently reaping millions from accident compensation; the probability of death from a car accident is much higher!

      • Anonymous says:

        We were talking about children being the first priority in a person’s life, not whether they could take care of them financially or not. Well, duh! This isn’t about being an SB or SD, just common sense. If you think that anyone will put you before their offspring, you might as well be the dumbest person in the world.

      • Anonymous says:

        @ Anonymous

        Sure the biological children will be the first priority. That is actually a problem for Reyna, the POT she is looking for will probably have his own biological children and prioritize them over her daughter.

        But in the reality of the sugar bowl, a SB with kids can be a a single mom, who really needs help with cash flow, thus she will be always pressed for time/babysittineg/kids schedule. A single dad SD probably is a bit older and does have some cash to spare, so his kids do have the babysitter, the boarding school or anything in between. A single dad, who cannot afford a babysitter will be a very problematic prospect for sugaring.

      • Anonymous says:

        Sure the biological children will be the first priority. That is actually a problem for Reyna, the POT she is looking for will probably have his own biological children and prioritize them over her daughter.

        What are you on about? Why should a POT’s kids come into play. Of course he is gonna look out for his children first, they are his. I am sure the same would be with other relatives, kids come first. Not sure why you got here from what I wrote.

      • Another anonymous says:

        @ Anonymous

        The way Reyna is describing the plans for her and her child, the POT should be responsible for such things as Reyna’s daughter’s school or trips to Paris. A huge commitment that might compete with the tuition for SD’s own children.

      • Anonymous says:

        “If you think that anyone will put you before their offspring, you might as well be the dumbest person in the world.”

        And SD’s know that. That’s why it becomes a negative factor in pricing. What SB brings to the table is her time and availability. Everyone has only 24hrs in a day, and 7 days in a week.

        What the SD brings to the table is money. Unlike everyone having the same 24hrs in a day and 7 days in a week, different men have very different amounts of money and income. Some men have much more than others, even after setting aside for their existing commitments.

      • Anonymous says:

        Reyna should be taking care of her daughter’s school on her. You can expect money, gifts, labels and a car but can’t expect strangers to pay for your kid’s schooling. That is absurd to even mention, a grown adult woman should not be doing or saying that. If you don’t want a SD what are you gonna do, leave your daughter without an education?

    • Njbaby says:

      Not trying to offend any SBs here, because we all want the finer things in life, but there’s no such thing as something for nothing. How would an online arrangement even work? POT SD’s aren’t coming here just to drop money for nothing. They wouldn’t be successful in their own lives if they thought that’s how the world works. Clearly they’ve put effort into their jobs and education, and came out on top. Why shouldn’t a SB have to put effort in from her side? An arrangement is a deal between two people, that means they both have to bring something to the table. And I’m not just talking intimacy. You’re not an escort, just like he’s not an ATM.

    • LittleBlackCat says:

      Woman to woman, I thought I would share my opinion and views. Take them for what they. I am saying this out of a good place in my heart. I tend to speak my mind, even when it’s unwarranted and if I do happen to offend you, I apologize. So, I was reading this blog and noticed that a few people starting poking at you, so I took a look at your profile. Now, I am no better then you or any girl on the website. This isn’t a competition because I believe men have a specific taste for woman and one man’s opinion may be completely separate from the next man. With all this being said, I would definitely adjust your profile. I am not a mother so I can’t speak from that point of view. However, I would definitely keep my personal life off the web and if you met a man, and started to converse with him, maybe bring it up there? Your expectations are completely different story. Men like to feel as if they are in control, they are the “alpha”, they tend to naturally give more. I find I get more when I am not asking. I completely disagree with the men stating above that no one will pay you that much. I just think that when you come in with an expectation that’s unrealistic you won’t tend to see the same results as you wished and hoped for. Also, don’t sound so money hungry or materialistic. I have found and gone out with some incredible men over the years. I am single and have a few men that I see regularly. A few Americans that come into Toronto for work, and a few Canadians. I find that keeping a balance since I am single is the most helpful. These men have lives and like you and I need help with a specific area in their lives. It’s a give and take relationship as any other relationship would be in your life. I approach these relationships the same way I would with a boyfriend. I am quite firm and lay down the ground rules and boundaries before anything. Nothing worse than being separate playing fields. I also have a few guys that I just see (with the sugar daddy aspect attached) If you don’t have that balance, you can become far to dependent on the man and it will go south quite fast. Stay humble girl, set your goals to a realistic setting so men are able to achieve these goals for you, and you both are happy. Look, I am a smoker, definitely have some weight on me. Some men want a size 2 which hey, all the power to them. Some men prefer a woman with some meat on her. Its all just a personal preference and most men even will acknowledge that self confidence does make a world of a difference. Please do me a favor, and stop relying on men for your sole income. It’s basically unachievable. It’s when they see that you are putting the effort into the relationship as hard as they are that you will well rewarded. Remember, it’s a two way street. I hope this helped you!

    • LittleBlackCat says:

      Woman to woman, I thought I would share my opinion and views. Take them for what they. I am saying this out of a good place in my heart. I tend to speak my mind, even when it’s unwarranted and if I do happen to offend you, I apologize. So, I was reading this blog and noticed that a few people starting poking at you, so I took a look at your profile. Now, I am no better then you or any girl on the website. This isn’t a competition because I believe men have a specific taste for woman and one man’s opinion may be completely separate from the next man. With all this being said, I would definitely adjust your profile. I am not a mother so I can’t speak from that point of view. However, I would definitely keep my personal life off the web and if you met a man, and started to converse with him, maybe bring it up there? Your expectations are completely different story. Men like to feel as if they are in control, they are the “alpha”, they tend to naturally give more. I find I get more when I am not asking. I completely disagree with the men stating above that no one will pay you that much. I just think that when you come in with an expectation that’s unrealistic you won’t tend to see the same results as you wished and hoped for. Also, don’t sound so money hungry or materialistic. I have found and gone out with some incredible men over the years. I am single and have a few men that I see regularly. A few Americans that come into Toronto for work, and a few Canadians. I find that keeping a balance since I am single is the most helpful. These men have lives and like you and I need help with a specific area in their lives. It’s a give and take relationship as any other relationship would be in your life. I approach these relationships the same way I would with a boyfriend. I am quite firm and lay down the ground rules and boundaries before anything. Nothing worse than being separate playing fields. I also have a few guys that I just see (with the sugar daddy aspect attached) If you don’t have that balance, you can become far to dependent on the man and it will go south quite fast. Stay humble girl, set your goals to a realistic setting so men are able to achieve these goals for you, and you both are happy. Please do me a favor, and stop relying on men for your sole income. It’s basically unachievable. It’s when they see that you are putting the effort into the relationship as hard as they are that you will well rewarded. Remember, it’s a two way street. I hope you were able to get some sort of clarity.

    • erika says:

      ive been doing this for a while, i always leave my arrangement at “negotiable” i dont want my dates to feel like transactions. i want to have fun and actually enjoy the guy im with. if all youre worried about is the money, its a huge turn off for most of the guys. you also can expect them to just give you 10k. i started off with 1 guy who we would go on dates and bar hopping and at the end of the night he would give me $250, i did that 4 times a month which left me with 1k. as we got to know each other and go on more dates and talk, we became more boyfriend/girlfriend, we were comfortable with each other.. he would then give me my $250 weekly allowance and then get me small gifts and other things.

      2. i dont talk about my kid unless they talk about theirs. some will be very understanding, some wont. i always plan my dates a week or two in advance, another arrangement i had my SD would give me money for gas and tolls or buy my train tickets. when you talk to them you have to let them know thats what you need. and no guy wants to pay for your kids to be babysat, its why i dont mention it, i figure it out on my own and go from there

    • anon123 says:

      Seems like a pretty small risk to pay for a babysitter for an hour or two while you go meet someone who may start giving you $10K a month. Just saying… when it comes to risk vs reward, I think I’d bite the bullet and pay a babysitter $30, and pay $15 for the uber, if the potential upside is walking with $2500 after a second meet. This whole grand experiment presents risks for both sides, at some point both sides have to take a chance… It’s that or just sit tight nd wait for the unicorn to appear.

  13. Fundude says:

    @Rem

    I am getting that moderation thing as well.

    Hopefully, they can “moderate” this place similar to that other forum with maybe a little less PC police.

    We shall see. Don’t know how you can moderate anonymous though.

  14. Zach says:

    “Why, when there are so many not-so-ideal SBs would a man NOT be more flexible with age or looks?”

    Some of us are making adjustments as you speak. It’s extremely difficult to find quality women on SA. You have to make adjustments or leave the game. I would rather have a very good SB than a very young, very attractive, and very bad SB. I never thought I would become flexible when I first came here, but it is what it is. Am I settling, per se? Probably, but for me it’s either that or leave. I don’t have time right now for traditional dating.

  15. Anonymous says:

    “She just got negative feedback from a decent amount of SDs and signed off.
    She also tried to talk younger SBs out of arrangements with “older guys because they aren’t attractive” whereby they left the “older SDs to the older SBs”. That failed miserably as well.“

    How can someone be so dumb to lie, when all evidence for his lies is so easy to be found in the other blog?
    Then you really are a complete idiot…

    1. She had NOT had ANY negative feedback.
    2. She signed off because of all you and your proxies’ downvotes. Even regulars there expressed their surprise about the unreasonable down votes.
    3. She did NOT try to talk younger SBs out of arrangements with older men. She expressed her surprise when a young SB openly admitted to not feel any attraction to her older SD.
    4. She has NEVER -nowhere ever!- told to leave the older SDs to the older SBs.

    And about your usual bullshit about “older” SBs trying to eliminate the younger competition, that is really the most ignorant thing I have ever heard:
    – Her SDs are not searching for young SBs
    – She is in Europe, majority of SBs is in US.
    – She is never without SDs, she has even presented some of them to me and other SBs.
    – She helped me and other young SBs a lot. She wanted to pay forward to another blogger who helped her. This person has left blog too btw. It looks like everybody who gives sound advice to newbies needs to be chased away…

    I know her, I appreciate and respect her, and I DON’T accept a dumb fake “SD” discrediting her with your ugly lies!

    • Fundude says:

      Elaine stop it lol

      • Anonymous says:

        You’re so predictable @Fundude. Of course you were going to say I was Elaine.
        Well, sorry for you, I know how much you miss her, but I am not. And I doubt she will ever come back here as long as you are poisoning this blog.
        But go ahead and see her and TVC behind every anonymous poster, it makes you look so intelligent! LOL I was a regular poster when your stupid ass was not yet here.

        It never happened to you, did it? People taking up for you? The only thing people do is calling you a liar and an idiot.
        Who will want to confirm your stories? Who will confirm you are what you say you are?
        @Jaybird 923 maybe?
        Well, she doesn’t seem to be very impressed by what she knows …

      • Fundude says:

        Please don’t pretend you’re not Elaine

      • Anonymous says:

        Please make yourself not look stupid by calling everybody Elaine or TVC.

  16. SugarD says:

    OK Homies, got a question for you .
    Got a note from an SB-essentially- come over and fuck me today. Private photo shows an attractive young lady. She states she has not met an SD yet that she wants to sleep with. She needs money for an “urgency”. Has no car but offers to M&G at her place, and go upstairs if I pass muster.The cost is in my budget.

    Too good to be true -yes ? Strangely enough ,I am skeptical although to motor over and fuck a random babe does appeal to me . Set up ? Or just an UTR Pro ? I don’t think I can do it -sounds waaay too easy .

    • Anonymous says:

      Motor over and fuck a random baby? Sounds like you are the UTR Pro to me. Keep it classy!

      • Anonymous says:

        Typical John in disguise or not so much in disguise on the site. I always delete and block his type, since you can figure them out a mile away.

      • SugarD says:

        Did you notice the 2 threads by young (mid 20s) “SDs” ? Apparently there are guys trying IRL dating on SA . Some SDs on a local blog brag that they pay allowance for a few months then the SB falls for them and cancels the allowance . Whaaat ? Women on SA willing to date for free ? What is this world coming to ?

      • SugarD says:

        Ooops ! Sorry to let my testosterone loose. What I Meant to say ,is drive over to ask my love interest to my church bake sale -to get in touch with her feelings about a possible relationship.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        How is he a john when she’s the one who contacted him and made the offer.

        @SugarD I would pass if she wanted to meet at a hotel bar then go upstairs that would be different

      • SugarD says:

        Thanks @Jay -that is my thinking as well.

        @Anonymous
        “Typical John in disguise or not so much in disguise on the site. I always delete and block his type, since you can figure them out a mile away”

        Tsk Tsk -the mods would be all over you on Reddit for this shameful Neg behavior .

      • Anonymous says:

        tsk tsk, I noticed others on the reddit blog called you out or insinuated u for being a gross john and looking for cheap p2p there as well.

        P.S. this is not reddit or fundude and dave would have been banned long long ago.

      • Anonymous says:

        How is he a john when she’s the one who contacted him and made the offer.

        Why? Bc he is the one that said the offer was almost too good to be true and he would motor on over to her asap if not for fear at getting held up at gunpoint.
        Duh! lol

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Anonymous11:03 doesn’t make him a John. For most men if you offering it up they’ll take it. You can walk into a bar and tell five random men you’re horny and ask them if they want to leave with you and you’ll get a yes. It’s not rocket science it’s the nature of the beast.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Anonymous 11:03 doesn’t make him a John. For most men if you offering it up they’ll take it. You can walk into a bar and tell five random men you’re horny and ask them if they want to leave with you and you’ll get a yes. It’s not rocket science it’s the nature of the beast.

    • Anonymous says:

      be careful you don’t get held up at gunpoint. It sounds too good to be true and very risky. There was a scam on CL like that – chic invited married guys over and when they went to the room the dude came out with a gun…. catch-22 on steroids.

    • Fundude says:

      I would pass unless its in a hotel room you setup.

      She is likely going to attempt to rob you if you come over her place.

      How do you know she doesn’t have a boyfriend that won’t attempt to stick you up? Too suspicious.

    • Sugarlushsugar says:

      Doesn’t have to be a guy with a gun. Probably just a random prostitute.

      • Anonymous says:

        that is true, but 81% of crimes committed involving a gun are by men, so it is just more likely there will be a man involved, but not 100% certain.

  17. Fundude says:

    Notice how none of the SDs agree with a delusional SB (wouldn’t doubt it was TVC) stating she only goes for guys with >50 million dollars and is very “picky”.

    She literally got told by every SD that she was delusional. Of course that led to her wanting to “regulate other opinions” on that website.

    Without the moderator, that would’ve easily devolved into the abyss this place has become.

    When a delusional SB gets told on this blog, it just demotes into name calling.

    • SugarD says:

      Yes ,that story was a crock of s**t ! Some dude there says he does deals that are richer than that one. I don’t believe any SD is that stupid .

      • Anonymous says:

        You probably do not believe there are $20,000 or more spent per table at bottle service bars in NYC and LA either.

        Because you cannot afford then that must mean it does not exist. Of course.

        😉

      • Anonymous says:

        Exactly!

      • Anonymous says:

        So I was a bit naive on bottle service places. I was at a super nice rooftop bar in NYC a few years ago. I sat down with my SB at one of many empty tables. The server, bless her heart, informed me that it was a bottle service table with a $15k minimum. I got up quickly, but I thought it was rather odd that this bar had a ton of people standing around and no one at tables. It didn’t make sense to me, but for $15k, I can stand and drink until I fall. Can I afford $10k to $20k for a night of drinking — yes. Will I ever do it — no. It doesn’t make me poor or frugal rather intelligent.

      • Anonymous says:

        Well you didn’t want to pay $15 for a table, that doesn’t make you frugal or poor.
        It’s just not worth for you, but for others it is.
        Look upon it this way, would the table system exist and survive, if there were no takers?

        It is soooo narrowminded to reject everything that’s out of your own reality….

    • Anonymous says:

      Probably because there are no rich daddy’s in the blogs. Zero

  18. sd with open eyes says:

    It’s hard to get motivated to go to premium when the first 10 messages you get you have no interest looking at.

    • Anonymous says:

      It looks like if you are in a top 25 metro population area that the supply of SBs is still pretty good. I am in about a number 50 metro area, and I haven’t seen anyone that makes me want to upgrade my account.

  19. Fundude says:

    Reason why TVC, Elaine, etc have left the previous sugar forum. Just look at this post from your typical SA type of blogger. Notice how no SD agrees with her but basically says she is full of shit in a “nice” manner:

    {{https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/49iqbe/are_there_any_of_you_that_demand_allowance_or_a/}}

      • Fundude says:

        Im not the one crying. I found it very amusing actually.

        Delusional SB gets told. They even called her bluff by asking her to post her profile, which of course she wouldn’t.

        The only ones who believed her bullshit were the SBs who wanted to believe it.

      • Anonymous says:

        You need to get laid @FunDude or find another hobby besides calling everyone on the internet you disagree with a liar.

      • X says:

        Why would she post her personal profile for the men to harass? She’s clearly not dumb.

  20. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Kore

    The not so ideal age or not so ideal looks are visible during meet and greet. The awful personality can be hidden and shows up only after few meetings.

  21. Sugar Baby says:

    hilo

  22. Jaybird923 says:

    @Fundude you are such a liar it’s unbelievable. Something has to be wrong with someone who can straight up lie like that especially when there are several witnesses and written proof on the blog that’s readily available and accessible.

    This is a prime example of what’s wrong with this blog. Your presence here is toxic

  23. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Kore

    I second SSSD, it makes things easy. As to restaurants and bars, if I go to the same place, it is most likely a place where I have also been for many business occasions. And quite frankly they cannot care less anyway.

  24. Fundude says:

    In reference to the reddit sugar site:

    Actually, the moderation has cleaned things up dramatically.

    If you notice, SDs are freely talking about allowance numbers in different areas without concern for name calling.

    The usual female blog trolls have been toned down dramatically.

    “NYCBROWNBABY” gets on there to bitch that men won’t give her an allowance and flake on her. She gets told that her attitude is bad and she needs to have more realistic numbers. NYCBROWNBABY gets angry and gets warned to stop it.

    TVC keeps her fucking mouth shut too. She has nothing of value to add either to the blog outside of insults.

    You never see TVC making a thread on there and barely comments. TVC is ultimately useless as a poster.

    Elaine already left as well because no one is buying the bullshit about “older SBs” get paid more or the inflated allowance nonsense these women spew.

    Yes you will have some down voting of SD comments that appear to “limit” allowances but the discussion appears quite productive on there.

    The numbers are FAR lower than stated by the worthless blog women on here as well who just name call and troll when SDs don’t agree with their nonsense.

    Most of the dudes are stating under 2K/month as well on that reddit website.

    • Fundude says:

      Also, you don’t see the TUMBLR SB bullshit on there. If women give ridiculous numbers or claim to be “older SBs that get substantial allowances” from “younger guys”, most SDs on there won’t believe it.

      Once the free exchange of ideas occurs between SDs and SBs, the truth is more easily ascertained on both sides. Neither SDs nor SBs can really get away with ridiculous commentary without hitting reality.

      On this SA site, you will get the less desirable SBs claiming ridiculous numbers or arrangements. When a blog SD disagrees, she will devolve into name calling the SD, attempting to shut him up. This leads to a spiral with name calling and lack of productive conversation.

      • Kore says:

        @FD Most of it sounds like BS anyway. Which clever SB is going to publicize her wins? It’s going to gain her fame and if she gets recognized by a competitor, she’ll have a likier chance of losing her higher bracket SD.

        As for age.. Where most younger SBs come across as self-entitled, insecure, inexperienced in life and romance, possibly threatening and untrustworthy, etc etc (according to previous blog posts).. Why would a man not opt for someone more responsible?

      • Fundude says:

        @Kore

        Very simple, men like younger women physically, Men find women in their 20s to be in “peak” appearance from every study done on the subject. This is true of men of ALL ages.

        Most men are not interested in a “friend” or someone to “hang out with”. They are paying for something that they couldn’t normally get easily.

        When asked in that subreddit the thing “sugar daddies” valued the most, the vast majority stated pictures and “easy to get along with”. The good majority wanted women under 30 as well.

        Also, you make an assumption that older women are easier to get along with. From this blog, plus the experience of many SDs, they don’t find any correlation between age and maturity.

        In fact, many older sugar babies are more jaded due to significant drama in the past.

      • Kore says:

        Yes, but I am sure that is the description of the IDEAL SB. As in, the cute 25 year old who is, “easy to get along with.” Apparently, the getting along with is pretty hard to do – which brings me back to my first reply to you.

        Why, when there are so many not-so-ideal SBs would a man be more flexible with age or looks? He wouldn’t have a choice in a way.
        My point is that it’s possible that an older or perhaps a non-bombshell might still be successful with sugar out of practical reasons, not ones based solely on idealist physical attraction.

        I could go so far as to say that you sound like IHF the way you bring up @Elaine’s age so often. You don’t like it, but I don’t understand why she’s being begrudged her success.

      • Kore says:

        Why, when there are so many not-so-ideal SBs would a man NOT be more flexible with age or looks?**

      • Anonymous says:

        “the truth is more easily ascertained on both sides. Neither SDs nor SBs can really get away with ridiculous commentary without hitting reality.”

        Ah….., so that’s why you are not posting there… Got it!

    • Anonymous says:

      Somebody woke up grumpy wumpy.

      Not gettin’ any still huh dude? being so angry does not help that cause.

    • FatB'StardSA says:

      @FunDude

      I do not get it. You claimed the reddit blog was moderated by feminazi’s. This seems like an ideal place for TVC15…

      Why would feminazi’s kick out @Elaine and the other blog SB’s and let you post their?

      • Fundude says:

        @FB

        Elaine wasn’t kicked off.

        She just got negative feedback from a decent amount of SDs and signed off.

        She also tried to talk younger SBs out of arrangements with “older guys because they aren’t attractive” whereby they left the “older SDs to the older SBs”. That failed miserably as well.

        The place is very PC but still it appears to allow SDs their opinion without name calling/shaming language.

        The vast majority of SDs speak IDENTICAL to me in terms of their value system (outside of a few older guys with little money for arrangements) in terms of their ideal arrangement. They just say it “nicely”.

        We don’t have that luxury here because once we bring some reality to this area, there is a barrage of shaming language/name calling from the older SBs/less desirable SBs that get called out on their delusion.

        The moderators kicked me off due to posting on the redpill and saying “nasty stuff” on the redpill. That I found quite distasteful.

        That is why I don’t post on there but I enjoy reading their stuff.

      • Anonymous says:

        Fundude is truly a lying idiot. Elaine was told to not be judgmental in her tone by other SBs and hasn’t left. There’s no negative feedback by SDs because of her age, because they would get a warning as well. Judgmental people don’t do well in the reddit forum.

    • Anonymous says:

      No idiot, Elaine left because you and your proxies constantly down voted her and tried to stir your usual shit. She probably didn’t want to give you the chance to do to those people’s blog what you did here. All you have stated about what happened or was said over there where lies, to push your predictable and boring agenda. Oh, and very easy checkable lies btw!

      I am an European SB and once was an blogger here, before it became the lunatic park it is now. Elaine has helped me a lot with advice and when I found myself in real deep financial trouble she has presented me to one of her ( yes, wealthy!) ex SDs. I am not the only one she has tried to help and I know other bloggers can confirm this personally. So it pisses me off when an useless bighead like you @Fundude, discredit her and chase all other interesting bloggers away.

      Why are you so fucking obsessed with her? Because such woman would not even allow you to come close enough to shine her shoes? Because she is moving in a society where you could only be the doorman? Because you are a sad loser and cannot stand others’ success? Because she is so much smarter as you and constantly exposed you ignorance? Because she is old enough to detect and expose the bullshit you and your brah’s are constantly spewing here?

      I have said it before and I will say it again: You’re a sad clown and a miserable loser.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Elaine is kind, helpful and legit as she helped me as well in the past. @fundude u truly have serious issues to be so obsessed with her that u make up falsehoods and try to disparage her character. Getta life

    • Anonymous says:

      Elaine didn’t leave because of that you dumbass, she left because she gave a judgemental tone as a reply to an SB there. I’m not even sure she left altogether.

      Bottom line: Don’t make shit up that never happened idiot.

    • Anonymous says:

      Most of the dudes on the blog aren’t having 18-22 supermodels as their Sb’s either so no, they won’t give more than 2k and they’re usually the cheaper end of the SD’s, meaning most women are looking for higher earning men.

      • Anonymous says:

        My SB is a 29 year old, recently separated, smoking hot yoga instructor. I will have nothing to do with women under 25. I am sure there are some under 25 year olds that are great, but I set my lower limit at half my age. No 18-20 yo super model for me thanks.

      • Anonymous says:

        Not even a teeny weeny 23? Jk

        I guess it depends on taste and yeah, men much older especially those half your age+ would need to compensate more for their shortcomings.

      • X says:

        LOOK OUT FOR THE COMMENTS FROM SDs SAYING THEY ACTUALLY DATED MODELS, eveb though they just stood in creepy guy’s basement nude for use of his $$ camera.

      • Anonymous says:

        “I guess it depends on taste and yeah, men much older especially those half your age+ would need to compensate more for their shortcomings.”

        why would someone compensate more for someone they aren’t interested in?

    • Anonymous says:

      I’m laughing so hard at a new thread there this morning.

      SB claiming $17k in gifts without even needing to flirt and that she is ‘very picky’ in selecting whom in the crowd of men worth $100 million that she will deign to spend time with.

      How long till she gets eviscerated?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        She’s not getting eviscerated. No one is allowed to say they don’t believe her or that they wouldn’t be interested in a SB like her. Everyone is o ly allowed to tell her congratulations and keep up the good work.

      • Fundude says:

        She got told by literally every SD on the blog lol

        Not one SD believed her bullshit story and called her bluff about her profile. Of course she wouldn’t post it.

  25. Anonymous says:

    So, now the blog is finally been taken ober by trolls and bots ….
    I hope SA is happy now?

  26. FedUpAnon says:

    Someone to spoil me like their daughter :)
    I am a poor student from a poor family

    Wasn’t that in Bohemian Rhapsody, Galileo 😉

  27. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Kore

    Good question. Personally I think it is better to check in without any company.

  28. Kore says:

    I have a topic.. About returning customers.

    So … does anyone feel a bit awkward for visiting the same hotel with different partners? I’m guessing that high society is used to it, but i still find it a bit weird.
    So far, i haven’t experienced this (before i get some clever comments from hypocritrolls), but at some point, i figure i might run into a more liberal SD who like to experience new women in old places.

    • Anonymous says:

      Gosh, she’s alive. Welcome back!

      • Sugarlushsugar says:

        Havn’t had the hotel experience yet.
        But a SD introduced me a really nice lounge where I took another date myself 😀 I just like the place.

        In general, if I continue pursuing S-lifestyle I must widen my knowledge about local bars. I am doing it allready, but more because I do not want to meet my friends or other SDs while on a date, not so much for the service personnel.

      • Kore says:

        @Anon Thanks. ^^

        @Lush I’d do it too, depending on how often I think I’ll go there and with whom (PDA or not). I know that staff members recognize regular customers and I am sure they gossip…

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I get the situation you’re describing (SD/SB bringing différent partners to the same hotel) but what exactly is the question?

      • Kore says:

        It was about discretion in general and if anyone even really cares whether the un/important people around see that they are sexually promisucous. If that makes a difference to them, and if, how they avoid it.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Thanks for the clarification

    • Anonymous_SSSD says:

      I never check in with my sb. I always check in early by myself and then text my room number to my sb. We never leave together either. Always staggered departures.

    • erika says:

      yes all summer i was going to saratoga, i was staying at the same hilton inn and i was going to the same bars, every weekend with a different guy , it was kinda funny but awkward

  29. Alonebutnotlonely says:

    Please excuse my ignorance, but what is SLR? SLF?

  30. Anonymous says:

    New invention of the myth of allowances:

    e5985b311

  31. Florence says:

    I wonder where’s my friend Blake Anonymous lol

  32. Fundude says:

    LOL NYC Brown Baby is your typical SA blog female.

    She is now on SLR bitching about how no men want her for an arrangement and are all “time wasters”. After a bunch of SDs tell her she could come off as abrasive, she goes nuts on everyone lol

    I have a feeling her dumbass will be back here soon too lol

    • Jaybird923 says:

      She promised to behave after the PC police complained about her tone.

      • Fundude says:

        LOL she got a warning after she yelled at MidWest faggot dude.

        Can’t make this shit up.

        HA HA HA HA

      • Fundude says:

        MidWest faggot claims to be “red pill” etc.

        He is also funding this “sugar babies Roth IRA” because it would cost him “a million dollars to divorce”.

        His stories are illogical from any financial standpoint. Dude is a clown and a fraud.

        But overall I think SLR is pretty good. Some very good SD posts.

    • Anonymous says:

      You know something else that’s great about SLR?

      The much more toned-down presence of that TVC twit.

      She can’t monopolize the whole conversation by virtue of having more free time than anyone else, and you can literally feel the cognitive dissonance of her aching to unleash her snark but having to hold it back because she’s afraid of getting warned pulse through the (blessedly fewer) comments she does make.

      It’s blisssssssss…….. :)

      • Anonymous says:

        TVC stop talking about yourself

      • Fundude says:

        Actually, the moderation has cleaned things up dramatically.

        If you notice, SDs are freely talking about allowance numbers in different areas without concern for name calling.

        The usual female blog trolls have been toned down dramatically.

        “NYCBROWNBABY” gets on there to bitch that men won’t give her an allowance and flake on her. She gets told that her attitude is bad and she needs to have more realistic numbers. NYCBROWNBABY gets angry and gets warned to stop it.

        TVC keeps her fucking mouth shut too. She has nothing of value to add either to the blog outside of insults.

        You never see TVC making a thread on there and barely comments. TVC is ultimately useless as a poster.

        Elaine already left as well because no one is buying the bullshit about “older SBs” get paid more or the inflated allowance nonsense these women spew.

      • Anonymous says:

        Liar liar Wal-mart boxers on fire :)

  33. Anonymous says:

    Is SA dead? That is the question…

    • Jaybird923 says:

      It seems like the trolls have finally succeeded in driving most of the posters away …

      • Anonymous says:

        So now they can start talk to themselves. :-)

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Unfortunately they won’t do that. If their interest was in having discussions with like minded individuals they wouldn’t have been on the blog in the first place since there are plenty of other websites/forums where they could do that.

        They might disappear for a bit now that they don’t have an audience but as soon as the blog gets back on track they will reappear to disrupt things.

      • Anonymous says:

        Wonder if it will ever get back on track. Most interesting posters gave up and left.
        You are one of the last Mohicans! 😉

      • Jaybird923 says:

        lol I know :-)) discovering the blog was a refuge for me. I spend most of my time hiding in plain sight or having to suppress my personality. Here I found other intelligent individuals that I could have interesting discussion with on both sugar and non sugar related topics. I guess I’m not willing to give up on it yet…

      • Anonymous says:

        Even Josh left, and we thought he’d never leave.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I think he’ll be back eventually. he’s taken a hiatus before and returned.

  34. Jaybird923 says:

    Wow this blog is dead today. Looks like everyone abandoned ship and went over to SLF…

    • Nameless says:

      jay or maybe they went on a date instead of wasting their time on the blog

    • Anonymous says:

      Because SLF gives people the chance to freely talk about sugar, without trolls insulting and name calling!

      • Nameless says:

        slf has some good topics and is very useful for finding information on how to have a good arrangement the problem I have with this site very few contribute to the conversation I suspect it’s because people fear getting banned or kicked off the site so how is this better from here the result is the same no one posts anything because of fear how are we suppose to learn if we can’t speak what’s on our minds I’ve never approved of calling people names even if they have boneheaded opinions we can agree to disagree

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I agree with nameless on this. They do have interesting topics but the conversation is stifled by over moderation. Anyone who doesn’t give a PC kumbaya answer is down voted. It’s like watching TV in black and with after being accustomed to HD technicolor.

        I don’t mind the heated disagreement or the occasional name calling. Our biggest problem on this blog is the individuals who come here simply to cause trouble and stir the pot.

      • Anonymous says:

        The difference is that people find the info they are looking for and feel free to ask advice. Maybe it’s just me, but isn’t that what a sugar blog is meant for?

      • Anonymous says:

        “Our biggest problem on this blog is the individuals who come here simply to cause trouble and stir the pot.”

        True that!

    • SugarD says:

      @Jay ,is that pic you ?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Yes Sir

      • SugarD says:

        Wow ! Pretty hot girl !

      • Jaybird923 says:

        lol thanks even though you can’t see my whole face :-) And I agree with you about the anonymous thing everyone should have to pick a moniker It won’t prevent some having more than one but it would go a long way in helping to cut down on the nonsense and make having discussions easier.

      • Florence says:

        Wow disgusting taste, some men like chubby girls and others asian monkeys

        I’ve changed my name btw lol 😛 Now i’m Florence

      • Florence says:

        SugarD you should see the complete picture, that would be even more scary. Always that a woman doesn’t show all her face, it’s cause she’s more than ugly otherwise she would be proud to show this

      • Anonymous says:

        Ah, so care to elaborate why we don’t see your face not even partially then?
        What does it say when a women does show NO face at all @Florence monkey?

      • Florence says:

        I’m not a real monkey, that’s the difference but here the asian yes, she’s a real monkey, not me, i just was using that name cause was funny lol.
        Second i don’t show my picture here cause someone that gorgeous like me can’t exhibit her picture next to some disgusting characters like the asian monkey and others, my picture doesn’t belong to here lol

      • Anonymous says:

        You’re a complete nutcase.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Hello stalker. I don’t like the new name you should stick with monkey or maybe buffoon would be a more apt moniker. I wonder what it says about a person who continually logs onto a blog seeking another’s attention and then claims not to be obsessed with them… Once I again I am flattered that you dedicate so much energy into trying to get me to notice you.

      • Florence says:

        Haha you still don’t know the meaning of stalk and obsession, i have been here for less than a day and i’m stalking people Or obsessed with people? And i don’t care if you primitive don’t like my new name cause i’m really Florence though others and you don’t like this fact and regarding to the buffoon meaning, you should learn this meaning as well, retarded primitive cause what you are saying is incoherent, you never understood all of my comments since i joined the blog otherwise you would know that i was using baby monkey as part of all the irony in this blog, but your brain can process this so that’s why you are relating incoherent stuff with me lol
        btw each time i come, for some reason i see tons of messages by some characters like the asian monkey and others, is this their life? haha

      • Florence says:

        Andddd in all case the real buffoon is that face and not my comments lol

    • SugarD says:

      One thing I like at LSF is everyone has a name. This Anon thing is ridiculous. If we all went back to sticking with a name then we would be accountable-and will be less likely to just throw some inane offensive comment into the mix -to stir the pot .

      • Anonymous says:

        Yeah like Dave really cares, he admits to his antics and clearly puts a pic up. Even some of the Anons tell him to get to his sense, but no.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Dave is someone who should’ve been banned from posting long ago…

      • Anonymous says:

        Well, it is remarkable that all the persistent trolls here post with recognizable nicks.

  35. Anon Baby says:

    I think it’s best if I delete my account too as I only really enjoyed an arrangement with one man.

    Actually I’m just going to select the highest allowance and never log in again. It seems to matter little what I put on my profile.

    • Anonymous says:

      True, what matters here most is location and time.

      • Sugarlushsugar says:

        Good decision Anon Baby. If they have nothing else than money to give, they better give a lot.

        I am talking with my first grayhaired POTs and it is obvious that ALL they care is how the girl looks. So that makes me care only about how much they can give.

        I am still though hoping to find a true sugardaddy who also likes my personality.

      • Anonymous says:

        Being attractive is a must. But many and many guys are just photo collectors, I think they enjoy offering things they can’t provide and then satisfy their egos but refusing you.

        I am talking to you idiot pot who vaporises after seeing photos, don’t be such an a…. and tell something. Silent treatment is disgusting and you are supposed to be more mature!!!

      • Anonymous says:

        Second that!
        Just a “Sorry, but no” before they poof would make it so much more digestable.

      • Fundude says:

        Or maybe they don’t find your pics that attractive?

        Why would they argue about their lack of attraction? They would just delete the post and stop responding.

      • Anonymous says:

        Nope, too many pic collectors on here, or they ask what allowance you need after clearly having it on your profile and then disappear. These men are failures.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        That is annoying if the person isn’t listed as negotiable than there is no need to ask them what allowance the are seeking. That’s the whole point of picking a budget category.

        There was one guy who contacted me and told me that my range was practical for me but not for him since he had two kids to take care of. He was listed at negotiable when he clearly was not in a position to negotiate…

      • FedUpAnon says:

        They are ranges are they not? So how does a potential SD know whether you are 3 or 6k? They don’t have crystal balls, just hairy saggy ones 😉

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Fedup if that comment was directed at me then he knows what range you’re in. if he can only afford the lower end of that range that’s what he should offer and she’ll either accept or decline. Or if he can’t afford the range at all he should leave her alone.

        But pretending not to know so you can give your woe is me speech is not cool. If minimum is what you can do then don’t list yourself as negotiable just put minimal and let those interested in that range contact you.

      • Anonymous says:

        The bird’s been grumpy lately

      • FedUpAnon says:

        It’s aimed at Anon 10.45. All budget brackets are ranges. If you select substantial, do you want the minimum, the maximum or somewhere in the middle?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        LOL Really? How so?

      • FedUpAnon says:

        Oh yes, aimed at you too Jay :-)

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Fedup :-) In that case he will know where in the range she falls by making her an offer in that range AFTER the M&G. Asking beforehand is just a tactic to try and low ball her. The same way you guys don’t like being asked for an exact number before you’ve met the SB we don’t like it either.

        For most where in the range they are willing to accept depends on the fringe benefits and the amount of time and energy you must invest into the arrangement.

      • Anonymous says:

        Fun dude, sometimes your smartassness back fires…

        Nobody expects anyone to dissert about unattraction, but it is out of courtesy to tell they are looking for something else.

      • Anonymous says:

        Only once a guy gently told me my pictures where not what he was expecting from my profile pic. (a very unrecognizable one) No problem! We wished each other succes and moved on.I personally preferr that to the ones who just poof without a word.

        I only show my private pictures after some messaging, so it is not the silence after having seen the pictures (fortunally that didn’t happen often), but the poofing after messaging that annoyes me.

  36. Sugarlushsugar says:

    Btw, if I delete my account will my sent messages be deleted also, or they stay in inbox of the receivers?

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Stays in their inbox but when they view the message it will say account no longer active. If they delete the message they can no longer retrieve it. SA has gotten rid of the deleted message feature.

      • baby monkey says:

        If i would have that asian monkey face of jay, i wouldn’t show this cause i would feel ashamed, seriously, this woman doesn’t have embarrassment but anyway thanks for the incomplete picture jay, if it would be the complete picture, probably it would be more scary

      • baby monkey says:

        If i HAD that asian monkey face of jay, i wouldn’t show this cause i would feel ashamed, seriously, this woman doesn’t have embarrassment but anyway thanks for the incomplete picture jay, if it would be the complete picture, probably it would be more scary

        This is the correct text =P i mistyped the first text LOL
        ANYWAY ENGLISH IS NOT MY FIRST LANGUAGE LOL

      • TVC 15 says:

        No kidding.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        My biggest fan is Back!!! How are you Monkey? I see you’re still obsessed with me. Very flattering how much attention you pay me :-)

      • baby monkey says:

        Wow you still copy me when i said that you and another characters were my fans, please get a personality jay. I obviously was bored so i came here and suddenly i was horrified by your photo and obviously i had to say something regarding this, gosh

      • baby monkey says:

        In addition you should learn the meaning of obsession cause it doesn’t apply to me, i have been here just for some minutes today after a long time far of the blog, so chill out real asian monkey!

        I want to say as well that the only monkey thing in my life is my name here lol

      • Anonymous says:

        Seriously, this woman doesn’t have embarrassment but anyway thanks for posting ingnorant insults again @monkey!

      • Anonymous says:

        Those comments about Jay’s looks is getting to a ridiculous extend, how old are you to make comments about someone’s looks?

        Those comments make it obvious money and class aren’t interconnected or listing “classy” on a profile doesn’t really make someone so.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Of course you’re not obsessed with me. yet the one and only thing you do is seek me out to spew your nonsense.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Happy spring avatar, Jay 😀

        Pretty, pretty

        Sorry to follow w googly eyed corndog. Gonna change it soon…i swear!

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @YGTBKM Thank you :-)) I don’t mind the corn dog but your anonymous admirer seemed to.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        I couldnt resist making a double-decker corn dog sandwich.

        Youre caught in the middle, and there’s nothing you can do about it, Jay!

  37. Fundude says:

    LOL I think TVC has mental problems

    • Anonymous says:

      I think some people here commented on your mental condition a few threads below. Read it.

      • Fundude says:

        TVC,

        Why do you argue with yourself as anonymous? Its amusing that you think we don’t realize that.

      • TVC 15 says:

        Why are you so obsessed with me?

      • Anonymous says:

        Because he is a “cub” in disguise, with a secret crush on milfs and doesn’t know how to get to them otherwise.
        In real life he is not attractive enough to grab their attention. They are out of his league.
        So he jerks on interaction with them here, because that is all he will ever get. :-)

  38. Anonymous says:

    Wow, what’s with the hispanic invasion of the blog? haha

  39. Nameless says:

    hi did anyone read the thread at SLF about the Russian sugar daddies dumping their babies because of low oil prices that got me wondering if anyone knows someone affected by the bear market in commodities we have been experiencing in the past year and a half

  40. Anonymous says:

    My grandpa is cooler than yours.

    e25300f41

  41. Anonymous says:

    Flashing crosses, 63 is young and what else is new?

    e4154a4

    • Anonymous says:

      Don’t forget the horoscope compatibility! Srsly this has to be one of the most ridiculous profiles I’ve ever seen and he’s been here since ’06, btw does his fourth public pic show you a different one?

  42. rembodler says:

    @Dave.

    Dave..eh..look.
    So far I have not messed with you and you have not messed with me. I suggest we keep it that way? Believe you me, I can say some very hurtful things too.

    The Real Dave says:
    March 5, 2016 at 5:27 am
    I remember a few blogs ago rem was bragging about how many women he pulled from this site and had on his roster , so now he’s relegated to exchanging emails with a blog poster that’s a 6 at best .

  43. Anonymous says:

    Anyone else thinks Dave is pushing his minimal agenda? If you do please put +1 in your comments, thank you.

    P.S: I am not TVC.

    • Anonymous says:

      +1

      • Anonymous says:

        +1 and I’m not TVC either

      • Fundude Vol.2 says:

        TVC don’t try to hide behind anonymous we all know it’s you lol

        You can’t make this shit up. These old feminists are trying to take me down, ME!!! They can’t beat this sixpack and triceps, and my surgeon hands, sorry gotta go my blonde, hot, 23 year old blow up doll has arrived in the mail, have to entertain with it for a while before my fleshlight comes.

        See ya!

      • Catcher 22 says:

        +++ Vol.2. ???

      • Anonymous says:

        Fundude Vol.2, You forgot to mention something very important!

        “FAT” @ Fundude. They’re FAT old feminists!

    • TVC 15 says:

      +3, and I am TVC.

      It’s flattering the trolls think I made up the +1 thing, but really they need to get out more.

      And Fundude Vol. 2, I think I love you.

  44. FatB'StardSA says:

    @SSSD

    If intellectual heavyweights like @Jaybird, @TVC15 and @YGTWHATEVER seem to be agreeing with you so you must be much more clever than I thought.

    Thanks for correcting my faulty assumption about you. I have another situation you might be able to help me with. It seems as though some of the blog posters have accused me of being an impostor. This false allegation has damaged the reputation of my blog persona and resulted in several POT SB’s rejecting my request to cum on their face because they no longer believe I am the real FatB’StardSA. I would greatly appreciate you advise on how to proceed to punish the offending parties.

    Have a nice day :-).

    • Anonymous says:

      Maybe you should provide proof on your behalf and then we can play as judges and decide if you have stolen or not the identity of the real FB.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I would think the thought of you holding up your fat gut to find enough of your penis to stroke with your thumb and forefinger is punishment enough… I for one don’t think I’ll ever be the same again.

      • Anonymous says:

        I don’t even think I’ll ever be the same again after reading this

      • Jaybird923 says:

        LMAO sorry I didn’t mean to traumatize someone else

      • Anonymous says:

        Love it

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Thank you for ruining my life, Jay.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Lol Am I going to have to start a support group?

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Speaking of ruining lives…

        It has been brought to my attention that Anonymous hates corndogs, and is frightened by googly eyes.

        In consideration of his or her polite request, I will be changing my avatar.

        Maybe March 6th should be declared National Corndog Day in its honor.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Jaybird

        I have lost a bit of weight actually. My gut is now small enough to fit in the space between your breasts.

        Probably small enough to fit in the space between @YGTBQUIET’s ears as well.

        Have a nice day :-).

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Yawn….Why bother commenting if that’s the best you can do?

      • TVC 15 says:

        Thanks for the visual, Jay

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Jaybird

        It’s hard to top someone whose humor amounts to writing +1 or LOL.

        Have a nice day :-).

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Correction it’s hard to top someone who is your intellectual superior. But I do find your repeated attempts amusing. So keep it up. Maybe one day you’ll succeed.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        ROFL
        LOL
        LMAO
        +1

        I am learning from the masters!

        Have a nice day :-).

  45. Anonymous says:

    It’s dissect dave’s life day on the blog. This helps me build the other characters you all represent better, thanks

    • I’ll post my next avatar with my minimal girl in it tomorrow :) I’ll let the panel of men decide how attractive she is . well I got to go hang with her tonight and fvck her . take care !

      • Anonymous says:

        Look forward to it. If she has some unique trait or characteristic I can add her in as a less common character

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        I know Im just another person on a mostly anonymous blog, but I would like to kindly request that you do not post the picture of an unknowing person. I highly doubt that any woman would agree to take a photo with you should she know how you discuss your exploits here.

        I am not at all interested enough in having a point proven or curiosity satisfied that Id support such an exploit.

        Id also kindly request that SA give a tiny bit of a fuck, and take note.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @YGTBKM I didn’t even bother. Anyone who feels the need to do something like that for the validation of strangers, is not someone who’d understand how disgusting what he’s supposedly planning on doing is. Never mind the fact that it’ll have the opposite affect since it’s not an act that inspires admiration but pity.

      • A Nonnymouse says:

        If it’s anything like the previous pic, it will be our dave posing next to some hapless girl who has no idea who he is.

      • TVC 15 says:

        +1 @ YGBKM

        SA, we know you read these posts. Don’t let that moron do this to that girl.

  46. The Real Dave says:

    @SSSD … ” Instead of being bitter and obsessive about making life difficult for the ex, delegating the most time-consuming routine part of child raising to someone with lower opportunity cost and paying her well to do it would help your own success and satisfaction level in life.” – you are what is wrong with society today, you can’t outsource, raising a child. I don’t care what Jezebel dot com tells you. the child misses the love of their mother and father and that love can’t be replaced. You sound like my ex she thought she could be superwoman and run the show. now shes 35, with a pair of fake knockers, which look better than the set Refund Gap Jaybird has, no husband, over-the-hill, and her only solace is the Instagram likes she gets from 70 year old pervs like Frank95.

    • Anonymous says:

      Well, I think everything is better as being married to you! :-)

      “the child misses the love of their mother and father and that love can’t be replaced”
      Now that’s the first sensible thing I have heard from you since on this blog!

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        ” now shes 35, with a pair of fake knockers” =

        “She was ‘sposed to buy your shorty Tyko with ya money…went to the doctor, and got lipo with ya money…walkin’ around lookin’ like Michael with ya money…,” kanye says.

        :(

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Then again…you seem to have a hard time recognizing what natural breast look like, so it could possibly be that your wife just bought some new bras. Ha.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        *breasts

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @YGTBKM well at least we know she ain’t a gold digger because we all know Dave is a broke ____ lol

      • The Real Dave says:

        @ Refund Gap . The SA market still supports even broke “n*g*ers” like me paying @ minimal a 22 year old hottie who is an 8 with a slim body, works at Neiman and is majorly into fitness. If the market didn’t support it, I wouldn’t have an SA account. She is free to look elsewhere but still comes back to me for some odd reason. Maybe you can explain it to me my dear.

      • Anonymous says:

        Very easy to explain:
        We all know your rich fantasy life! :-)

      • Anonymous says:

        You scam ’em?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        The 8 is more like a 4-5. Being into fitness = squeezing her fat ass into spandex yoga pants to run errands. works at Neiman in the loading dock processing inbound shipments. And she keeps coming back because well she never had a man treat her so nice….doesn’t the Olive Garden have tablecloths and metal utensils? And all the salad and breadsticks she can eat.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Jaybird

        ROFLMAO

      • The Real Dave says:

        @ Refund Gap..sounds like you speak from experience ? :)

      • Anonymous says:

        YGTBKM I enjoy your witty responses but could you please change your avatar I cringe every time I see that

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Ha…you have a problem with corndogs? Or is it the googly eyes?

      • A Nonnymouse says:

        Dave, no need to write that you are a n*g*er.

        We KNOW you’re a nagger!

        Nag, nag, nag, blah, blah, blah.

      • TVC 15 says:

        Yeah, even if he paid substantial and the sex was fantastic, it still wouldn’t be worth having to listen to him.

    • SSSD says:

      No outsourcing required. That “her” was meant to be the mother of the child. I’m still very much involved in the raising of my child besides providing resources to the mother, who takes care of most of the daily routines. I was at her PTC only a couple days ago with the mother, something a dad with normal 9-5 jobs wouldn’t even be able to do.

      I certainly agree that children need love from both moms and dads. Unless one is reigned to becoming welfare family (which would bring all sorts of other opportunity deficiencies to the children later), time with children is a luxury at price premium. The most efficient way of ensuring children getting sufficient time from parents and still having high standard of living is having the more productive parent work more while having the one with lower career opportunity cost to spend more time with the children. It’s called division of labor, competitive/relative advantage in trade: even if the father can do 100 units of good per hour for the children while the mother can do only 80/hr, it is still a good idea to have the mother take care of the children most of the time if the father can earn 200 units of income per hour working elsewhere vs. the mother’s 50/hr.

      “Most of the time” not all the time because the incremental unit subjective value of paternal guidance and maternal love to the child is not linear. The first few units are much more valuable than additional ones; at some point a satiation point and plateau is reached and additional units of input generate no additional return.

    • Another anonymous says:

      @ Jay

      The question is whether he was broke, when she married him. :-)

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I’m going to take an educated guess and say yes. Most likely one of the reasons she divorced him. Especially if she’s career oriented. She probably married him thinking he had potential and he never lived up to it. Divorced him thinking she can do better but I’m guessing that she failed to realize if she couldn’t do better than Dave when she was younger and had less baggage she’s probably not going to well now. Thoughts…

      • SSSD says:

        My guess is that she could have done better, a lot better, but chose to marry Dave for his looks, and her own narcissism to show off her friends and bridemaids, many of whom are probably no longer her friends by now.

        I agree, now she no longer has any option.

        A few words of advice from her grandma having the would-be bride’s best interest at heart and a life-time experience, before she married Dave, would have avoided this triple tragedy/disappointment.

      • Anonymous says:

        Doesn’t matter if she can support herself, she can find a sugar baby too and compete with dave or scam them, all she needs or maybe a gold digga hubby.

      • SSSD says:

        That’s precisely what she thought: Dave was her gold-digger hubby! See how that worked out. LOL!

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @SSSD I don’t know what she looks like but we’ve all seen Dave while not a troll I definitely wouldn’t marry down to have access to his genetic material. And I agree that she probably out earned him. The fact that he can’t support/provide an adequate household for him and his son with out her second income is proof enough of that. No grown man chooses to live his mother for help raising his son if he can afford not to.

        My brother got sole custody of my nieces but he didn’t move in with my mother he bought a new home closer to us so we can help out. We could pick them up from school while he was at work, do their hair babysit when he wanted to go out but he maintained his own household for him and his daughters.

      • Anonymous says:

        He turned out to be a gold digger. Not good!

      • TVC 15 says:

        To play devil’s advocate, if you’re a single parent, living with a helpful grandma seems a distinctly good idea even if you can afford not to.

    • Catcher 22 says:

      @Jay and @ygbkm. Inquiring Minds gotta know: Why are you wasting your time even reading this degenerate’s posts, much less actually responding.

      • TVC 15 says:

        Because this is not a sugar blog. Didn’t you know? This is the Troll Olympics.

        Personally, I’m hoping for a bronze.

  47. FatB'StardSA says:

    @SSSD

    Here is an interesting situation that I hope you can help me understand. I have a “friend” who claims he has developed the perfect model for male/female relationships and yet he continuously trawls to SA world trying to convince a SB to procreate with him without any success. I think he is full of shit and/or delusional. What is your opinion?

    Have a nice day :-)

    P.S. Are you the same clown who wanted to sue a blog poster for defamation of his blog persona?

    • Anonymous says:

      You were mistaken when assuming “without any success.” That’s as far as I can go on the subject at this point.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @SSSD

        I am happy you have found success in finding incubator(s?) for your offspring. With any luck your superior genes will create an exponential population growth of men who can pay 4X the national average in child support.

        Have a nice day :-).

    • SSSD says:

      Women are heavily influenced by opinions from others. When young women listened to grandma’s wisdoms, like a century ago, they understood that a man’s youthful face and six packs go away quickly over time, therefore she should try to secure a mate that could provide her and her offspring with resources and security over the long run. That was the dominant mating strategy back then.

      When young women are left to influence by their own peers only, we end up having ghetto bravado with little substance as the dominant mating strategy (“alpha”), which was characteristic of the tropical primitive “societies” that never even invented the wheel on their own before being discovered by the more advanced civilizations. On a personal level, unlike the grandma, the youthful peers simply don’t have the life’s experience to help her look beyond the next few months to few years, therefore incapable of advising her for her own long term well being.

      That’s why a more mature and longer term perspective is necessary, and I’m willing to provide it to the youthful audience.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        “When young women are left to influence by their own peers only, we end up having ghetto bravado with little substance as the dominant mating strategy (“alpha”), which was characteristic of the tropical primitive “societies” that never even invented the wheel on their own before being discovered by the more advanced civilizations.”

        oh my…youve always been good at making a sharp turn toward a cliff.

      • SSSD says:

        Gotta keep the drama level up, so the audience doesn’t get bored :-)

      • TVC 15 says:

        What were we saying again about repetitive nonsense? :)

      • Fundude says:

        I agree with this assessment

  48. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Sugarrush

    A) tell your surgeon friend to jump the pond asap. His tolerance of bs will go down every year and USMLE as well as PGY-1 through 4 consists mainly of bs, especially for an experienced surgeon

    B) show him SSSD’s post. Despite FunDude’s disagreement, that model is right and produced Vast number of SDs (punt intended)

    C) charge your surgery friend a price of laptop for business advice

    Good luck in sugar. You are a good sport. Btw what part of Europe are you at? I might need a 12 hour friend there next month. :-)

    • Sugarlushsugar says:

      Haha great, thanks! I will try that.
      I am in Spain at the moment. If you bring me a Macbook pro from overseas as a present then you have the 12h friend secured :)

      • Anonymous says:

        C’mon for a mac pro, really?

      • Anonymous says:

        Hey, these are expensive in Europe! 1,5 to 2 k, so not that bad for 12 hours ?

      • Sugarlushsugar says:

        I’m not sure how much they are in US but I’v heard cheaper. Anyways will be the first thing I hope from my Daddy. I am practical like that. If they would give me Gucci bag I’d sell it and buy a laptop.

  49. Fundude says:

    @SSD

    You economic analysis of surgeons is illogical.

    Surgeons could make more individual money under that system you quoted, even at 20% of the fee. That is largely due to the vast majority of the surgeon’s bill being hospital OR costs and overhead.

    If that was significantly reduced, the surgeon could actually net more from the surgery itself.

    • A Nonnymouse says:

      You are correct.

      It’s insurance companies, drug companies, and hospital holding companies that make the real $$$$. Or, shoul I say, the executives of those companies. The stockholders get diddly squat.

  50. Anonymous says:

    Delusional SD:
    Self-employed, divorced, income 100k, offering “substantial”….

  51. Fundude says:

    @MMA faggot

    You’re still around? LOL

    Just stop it, you haven’t even responded to me with any specifics. We all know you are some little comp nerd.

  52. about Brandon Wade . I really doubt he has side action on this site . there is no way he could remain anonymous ans not get outed . his wife’s a gold digger she would divorce him in a heartbeat and get his $20 million .

    to the poster who asked if I pay child support . I don’t . I successfully took my ex so called career woman to court and cutoff child support after paying it for 3 years . the female judge hated the attitude of my ex and noticed I was doing all the work of raising our child . the arrogance of modern day females has come back to the bite them in the forms of men’s rights attorneys , post wall lonliness of women , and barren womb b” tch es. .

    • Anonymous says:

      Child support payment is for your CHILD and not her.

      • The Real Dave says:

        for her it was punishing me for leaving her. I was with the child more than she was you fvcking idi0t explained that above. READ !

      • SSSD says:

        Your first mistake was marrying / reproducing with a woman with higher career opportunity cost than your own. She was punishing you for her own mistake “marrying down.”

        What people don’t realize is that, in the business world, employees are promoted until they reach positions where they are ill-suited for (then the promotions stop due to mediocre performance). Most women seek employee jobs, not entrepreneurial jobs that are truly stimulating. They may find early career success, then eventually reach that plateau, where men have much better tolerance for repetitive nonsense than women do. That’s when women realize that they should have paid much more attention to their earlier reproductive opportunities and the satisfaction/validation that route would bring.

      • TVC 15 says:

        Men have a higher tolerance for repetitive nonsense? Haha. You forget that women routinely listen to men.

      • SSSD says:

        Women listen to men in order to get promoted or get paid. That’s why 95% of marriages either end in divorce or make the wife unhappy/unsatisfied: the promotions have stopped, and she already has 50% of everything.

        Most employee jobs consist of repetitive nonsense. Men take pride in that “experience.” Women are more likely to be bored.

      • SSSD says:

        listen to men’s repetitive nonsense.

      • TVC 15 says:

        I am! I am! What more do you want?

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        +1 @SSSD

    • Fundude says:

      Good stuff Dave.

      Equality is awesome!

    • SSSD says:

      That rational and dispassionate woman judge has a career too. There is nothing wrong with a woman having her career (after the kids are old enough to go to school), so long as she does not put that ahead of her children; just like there is nothing wrong with a woman meticulously taking care of her own looks and body, so long as she doesn’t put that ahead of her children. Not being sexist here, but it is a lot easier to derive satisfaction and validation from raising one’s own children (90+% probability) than from building a truly successful career (less than 10% probability) or staying forever young (0% probability). Narcissism about her own career or her looks to the detriment of her children might just be indicative of low IQ.

      OTOH, unless she is truly neglectful of the child, taking the child and suing her to obviate child support payment may have been compounding mistake on top of mistake. Given your income is significantly less than $200k, and her having a career, the court mandated child support is likely only a few hundred dollars to no more than $1500/mo or so at the most. For that relatively small sum of money, you are giving up your freedom and having to live with your mom, so you can have someone looking after the kid when you work or play. Sounds like a lose-lose situation. The red pill didn’t go down when you tried to swallow it. You are approaching your peak SMV years. Your imperative should be pursuing more reproductive success on top of taking care of your existing child. Instead of being bitter and obsessive about making life difficult for the ex, delegating the most time-consuming routine part of child raising to someone with lower opportunity cost and paying her well to do it would help your own success and satisfaction level in life.

  53. I remember a few blogs ago rem was bragging about how many women he pulled from this site and had on his roster , so now he’s relegated to exchanging emails with a blog poster that’s a 6 at best .

  54. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Sugarrush

    You are absolutely right about the expensive education in the States. But a version of geographical arbitrage works wonders. Free education in Europe, USMLE, four underpaid years and voila, a reasonably paid American surgeon with no school debt is here.

  55. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Rem

    Personally I do not feel the need to insult anybody, yet I enjoy that this forum is very vigorous, adjectives are free flowing and the anonymity allows people not as much telling but more importantly hearing things, that one hardly hears in real life.

    • rembodler says:

      I used to agree. Not anymore.

      • Aurore Dupin says:

        Lets do reddit, Remmo!
        I’ve been there for a couple of weeks. None called me a man there yet.

      • rembodler says:

        Aurora… This is very silly, but do you want to talk…hahaha…that will date me …in private?

      • Aurore Dupin says:

        It is OK, Remmo.
        auroredupine at yahoo dot com. I wish we can meet. You can tell YGTBK that you touched my crotch. And report back to her.

      • rembodler says:

        Aurore
        You got mail…;-).

      • Aurore Dupin says:

        Oh, Remmo.
        U can get any girl you want…or are u trying to catfish me? shame on u.((((:

      • rembodler says:

        Aurore…I understand what you are trying to do, but I do not need any advertisement on the blog… I mean it. Thanks, anyway.

      • Anonymous says:

        What’s your email Rem? I would like to see you too, now I’m jealous. :(

      • Aurore Dupin says:

        ;))).

      • Aurore Dupin says:

        NO! he is all mine.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Remmy I’ll admit to being jealous too. Not because I care what you look like though…

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Yes, yes…please report back!!!

        @Aurore

        The tone of your recent post has a little more vulva than the previous ones…perhaps you really did take my advice. How lurvly. Your picture, though, seems less fake than the last two.

        I did notice something in this recent thread …not gonna say what it is yet, though.

        It would be delightful if you are a woman. And I would certainly owe you an apology. Yep. I would.

    • Anonymous says:

      I have no doubts about @Rembodler good looks, you can get the idea from his avatar.
      It’s his personality that sucks.
      Attacking and insulting other posters, twisting peoples words to make them fit his agenda or trying to make them look like liars.
      And crickets every time he’s called out for proof.

      “If people are polite and civil, I would never be rude to them.”
      “You never hit first”
      “Only if people behave uncivilized… It makes sense to hit them back.”
      “I do not enjoy bickering”
      “I want to get other sugar people experience, listen to what genuine SBs have to say”
      “I have absolutely no urge to insult other people, unless they try to kick me first.”
      “I find it sad this here is in a state it is.”

      You seriously can’t be serious @Rembodler …you can’t!
      That is; unless you’re a DPD case!

      You are considered one of the trolls here by many posters. There might be a reason for that?
      Other than @Fundude and @Dave you are intelligent enough, so maybe some self reflection would help?

      • Anonymous says:

        He’s mentally ill. I’m not saying that as an insult, just a fact. This guy has some serious mental issues, and I suspect all three of them that come here causing the bulk of the trouble, do.

      • TVC 15 says:

        +1

        Mind you, what does that say about the rest of us who continue posting here? 😉

  56. rembodler says:

    My@Reddit experience
    …so far has been very positive.
    While one has to leave his humor at the door, their aggressive moderation certainly helps to ensure productive discussion. As I said before, I do not enjoy bickering. I want to get other sugar people experience, listen to what genuine SBs have to say and share my perspective. I have absolutely no urge to insult other people, unless they try to kick me first.
    If people are polite and civil, I would never be rude to them. You never hit first, a karate coach was very firm on that one. He liked to be attacked (especially by one of the newly minted advanced belts) and then somehow miraculously appear behind your back, with his fist gently, but firmly planted in one’s undefended lower back. He would never hurt any of his pupils, but with his fist being where it was, one had to know they lost. The fight was usually over in a couple of minutes, if that.
    Only if people behave uncivilized… It makes sense to hit them back. Turning the other cheek was always lost on me. If one does not have any enemies…something is wrong. Being universally liked is probably impossible even for a Pope or Mother Theresa.
    I find it sad this here is in a state it is.

  57. Another Anonymous says:

    @ KnownAim

    Would you care to share with us, what was your longest arrangement?

    @YGBKM

    Did you see that triple xxx description?

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      On the last page? Gonna go next door and check. Hope I ain’t trekkin’ all the way over there for nuffin.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        yep…all the way for nuffin. You still havent done your homework.

        Whatdya say we chop it up to missed humor…or a bad joke.

        Unless…youd really like for me to explain…which seems quite exhaustive for a week-old joke that fell flat.

  58. Anonymous says:

    601th post!

  59. Another Anonymous says:

    @ FunDude

    Their PGY-1s are obnoxious.

  60. Another Anonymous says:

    @ FunDude

    Not all doctors, just surgeons. :-)

  61. Fundude says:

    Why does TVC’s dumbass sound relatively reasonable on the reddit blog but a total fucking psychopathic feminist cunt on this blog?

    • Anonymous says:

      Probably because there’s no hostile idiots like you attacking her over there

      • Fundude says:

        Her bullshit doesn’t sound unreasonable even with allowances lol

        What happened to the 10k for platonic shit?

      • Anonymous says:

        10k for platonic or 50k for sex and other shit, which one do you think would pick?

      • Anonymous says:

        That one wasn’t me. That one hasn’t even mastered English yet

    • Anonymous says:

      Has she ever stated something unreasonable which is relative or talk about allowances on the blog? No, she has only made her points clear, nothing to do with this.

    • Midwestmmadude says:

      You got crushed on Reddit and I’m crushing you next week at the mma gym little fun dude.

      I’ll videotape it and post your beat down on YouTube. Footage coming soon.

      • Anonymous says:

        Crush his ass and this rembodler’s ass. They both need a good ass whooping the way they treat women on here.

      • Anonymous says:

        Can’t wait for it. I’m gonna watch gladly, with some popcorn and beer.

      • TVC 15 says:

        Yep, I’d pay to see that.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        What kind of brute-ape shit is this?

        How about you climb your Neolithic asses back into the caves from which you came, and beat each other over the head with clubs until you out-do yourselves.

        @Fundude

        I sincerely hope you change those underoos of yours before you go. Nothing worse than a teste falling out during an ape fight.

  62. Fundude says:

    LOL at all the angry feminist SBs defending Frankie

    How cute

    • Anonymous says:

      No, I think they prefer older men who pay more versus younger who pay less. Nothing wrong or ‘feminist’ about that.

      • Fundude says:

        I can respect that lol

        So far, I don’t see much probs for dudes like me on SA though.

      • TVC 15 says:

        Actually, the reason is that we prefer intelligent, witty, friendly men to idiotic, hateful braggarts. I know that’s complicated, so no surprise that you buffoons are struggling to understand it.

    • Frank95 says:

      Defending me?

      That would presuppose that someone was attacking me.

      Haven’t seen anything here yet that would qualify as anything more than a slap with a wet lettuce leaf.

      If you think anything said about me here is an attack, then all I can say is you have led a very sheltered life.

  63. Another Anonymous says:

    @ SugarD

    Actually Sugarrush was talking about prices in euros. So we might be seeing the ultimate effect of socialized medicine on surgeons incomes. I think I will vote for Bernie Sanders, I do not like those surgeons anyway. :-)

    • Fundude says:

      yeah fuck doctors!

    • Sugarlushsugar says:

      Surgeons in Europe earn much much less than in the privatised America. You can’t really compare. A top graphic designer can earn more thatn mediocre parttime surgeon here, if we go to extreems.

      • SSSD says:

        Medicine in America is not a private free market either, but a heavily subsidized and regulation-induced price bubble.

        The overwhelming majority of medical expenditure in the US is born by taxpayers, through Medicare and Medicaid. Supply of doctors is artificially restricted through board licensing and zoning control on hospital facilities. The free market price for surgery is about 20% of where it currently stands, as evidenced by Oklahoma Surgical Center’s price menu compared to most major hospitals. I feel bad for young doctors who have half-million-dollar student debts, and private holders of hospital bonds. Those debts were induced by the price bubble.

        Doctors will see relatively declining income regardless whom is elected president.

        In other sugar-related political news: Trudeau is likely to lead to the break up of Canada in the next Quebec referendum. That will lead to the Canadian Maritime Provinces joining the US, and quite a lot of pretty SB’s coming to the US. Have you guys seen how pretty the offsprings of Royalists are? Let’s just say, they are on average in a lot better shape than the offsprings of those stayed behind. Either that, or it’s the French Acadien gene.

      • Sugarlushsugar says:

        @SSSD Good to know. That is why I never desire to America. Because you pay so much for education and afterwards it is a jungle to make living.

      • TVC 15 says:

        SSSD – you are delusional about Canada. It’s the Yanks who are desperate to escape up here, not vice versa. You’re right about the women, though; total babes, eh?

      • SSSD says:

        Take a look at your map: when Quebecois vote for independence in a couple years, the Maritime Provinces and New Foundland will be physically cut off from “central Cananda.” Those provinces to the east of Quebec will have no choice but joining the US, both economically and politically, becoming the 51st state. Then the hot babes there will be eligible for Pell Grant for attending colleges in Boston and New York :-) finally reclaiming some of their ancestral birth rights as descendents of Loyalists that lost properties to confiscation during the American Revolution.

      • TVC 15 says:

        When’s the next referendum, SSSD? Here’s my prediction: never. Unlike you I have friends and family in Quebec and I promise you, they’re all sick of that nonsense. They know perfectly well Quebec has the rest of the country over a barrel and they’ve got no reason to want to chance it alone. And even if they did, good luck getting it past the First Nations. Just not happening.

      • SSSD says:

        2018. With the oil price collapse, and collapsing Canadian housing market soon, there will be a lot of bankruptcies. Life will be more difficult in Canada; the central government won’t be able to keep fattening itself and subsidizing Quebec, while further centralization policies will irk the Quebecois.

      • TVC 15 says:

        You may be right about all the above, but there still won’t be a referendum. Canada’s like a big Italian family; we’re constantly squabbling, but we’ll stick together. We know how good we have it, all we have to do if we forget that is look south. 😉

  64. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Sugarrush

    Can you share with us what type of computer you need for your school work? You do not seem to have problems to access SA or tinder. And a regular computer should be a pocket money for a surgeon.

    • SugarD says:

      LOL -ACA has decimated Drs incomes . Unless a Doc is in a cash and carry specialty like cosmetic surgery or in a super high volume practice they will not be sugaring so much anymore .

      • KnownAim says:

        regular quacks then? these days maybe should join the queue to demand legalising cannabis

      • KnownAim says:

        mind, they could be a trust babe immune to property prices and rents and could totally “pay it forward” or back rather as in contribute for ripping off non trust babes in many ways

      • Fundude says:

        Guess they better start thinking about getting an MBA from a top school then SugarD

    • Sugarlushsugar says:

      I need a laptop with enough ram and graphic card for video and photo editing. For SA I use tablet or phone.
      Btw the surgeon was/is a tinder fling. I could not as for money from him…..or could I. How?
      The POT (lawyer) earns much more money compared to the (tinder) surgeon – we are in Europe with public health care (actually he said he wants to go to america exactly for that reason). Even thoughh,, I do not know how to take tinder date to the next level, so that he would buy me a decent laptop. Any ideas?

  65. Sugarlushsugar says:

    Haha. The 12h got much attention. Actually I would do it for that money, maybe even for less, depends what he wants and how he looks, how interesting he is. PDA with a grandfather in my home city thoug – no way, even for that money.

    Today my favourite POT told me he is not looking anymore, cause it is too materialistic here on SA. He could offer only inviting me out.
    I did not tell him that yesderday I had a fabulous tinder date with a sugeon who invited me to everything without me asking anything. We had amazing conversations and finished the night with amazing sex. I would do the same witht this POT if we had met on tinder. BUT just for fooling me that he can help me at first and then coming out with the only drinks story, no way I agree to this. I have tinder to relieve the stress these salty SA men are causing me. Haha joke! But really, I want to have fun too…i just started with tinder nd it is ctually fun compared to this place here.

    Really, I think men who can or rather want to offer ONLY DRINKS instead of helping SB to get BETTER LIFE life should be kicked out of this site. Go to tinder! They may be cute and fun and sexy, but they don’t serve the puropse. Actually they make me sad…

    So, I’m just venting ‘ cause I’m sad about that pot. I have to do a university project and my computer broke and I can’t do it without. I hoped my pot would help me get new one. :S Now I have another promising POT who to answer but I’v got the feling allready that this SA page will not bring me what I need. Too much hassle for too lidle revard.

    • KnownAim says:

      yay, well done, I must say you can get more joy from “normal” sites, if you discriminate

      • Sugarlushsugar says:

        Discriminate? What do you mean?
        It definately was more satisfying than the SA date.

    • Zach says:

      I’m sorry to hear that. It’s not that much different on this side either. Girls who don’t even want to meet and want you to send them money for texting or talking on the phone haha.

      • KnownAim says:

        Talking on the phone is a chore and causes brain cancer, if you want to talk, buy them lunch at least to talk over.

      • Zach says:

        Agree, but that’s the problem lol. Not too many girls even want to meet. So many are just looking for online arrangements, text arrangements, or phone arrangements while I’m looking for something in real life.

      • KnownAim says:

        Might depend on your area. I prefer meeting to idiot pro bono sexting, hence I no longer even share my phone number unless they organise to meet. I see no risk to myself in meeting at a public place for lunch and the guy travels. Often shitheads here want the girl to travel then moan they had a schedule change and set yo up for a rape basically.

    • SugarD says:

      @Lush
      Well ,girls are here mainly for financial help -right ? If you just want to get laid Tinder-type sites work fine . I doubt any Tinder hookups give you a fist full of money at the end of the night

      • KnownAim says:

        Lols, “normal” sites kind of do, if you play them right. More like “what’s your price” in fact, you tell them they have to buy you lunch then ask for petrol money 😉 and more for more.

      • KnownAim says:

        Usually guys on the likes of funbuddy would keep you fed and fuelled until you get bored of the whole thing

      • KnownAim says:

        and it would be mostly platonic except they might try to smooch but again, if you are meeting at a restaurant with cctv, they cannot push it too much really

      • Sugarlushsugar says:

        Yes, it is like this. But then again, I havn’t seen any money coming from SA guys. (I don’t do pay-for-play, maybe that’s why).
        The Tinder date was more gatifying because there were no expectations, I got drinks and good sex and the guy was really flattered by my interest, while SA dude gave me free drinks but was very judgmental after our date and made me feel bad about me asking the money…what is kind of half of the deal.

      • Sugarlushsugar says:

        Btw, I did not have any PLAN to sleep with neighter of them – it just happened with the Tinder surgeon.
        And it would have happened with the SA guy if he would have sticked to the point that this is an arrangement-dateing site.
        I had chemistry with both of them. But..he just became flaky when I started to talk about money…and now he is resentfull.

        My conclusion is just that SA does not work or you have to be cold hearted calcukative bitch to make it work and say what they want to hear when they want to hear.
        It is better to make your own money and have sex with tindr or some random semi-familiar men, if you are not into relationships.

      • SSSD says:

        @SLS,

        Sorry to hear you ran into a wrong guy. A real SD would have made a numerical offer or said yes/no to your ask. If both willing, then either that evening or on the 2nd date properly seduced you and discretely put allowance in your purse.

        Him getting mad at your mentioning money? Unless you are doing that within the first few minutes (i.e. coming across like a pro), he might have been a scammer like “Dave.”

      • TVC 15 says:

        He is a scammer. He got angry because he realized he wasn’t going to get the free sex he was after. Guys who contact women on SA and pretend not to know that money’s expected deserve to have as much of their time and money wasted as you can stand. Be sure to order the most pricey item on the menu, along with as many expensive cocktails as you can drink.

    • Anonymous says:

      Tinder is free, and the sex is free. SA costs to join, costs to have an arrangement, but is platonic only?

      Where is the logic? Brandon SA is dead :-(

      • Anonymous says:

        Probably because older, married and wealthy men use this site and can afford to. I don’t think they would do very well on tinda’

      • Anonymous says:

        They are not doing very well here, rinsers, scammers, cam girls, and platonics :-(

      • Anonymous says:

        I have had only one girl agree to a non platonic arrangement, and she is a fraud. She hasn’t tried to scam me yet but she is using fake pics, even sent via WhatsApp of a cable channel model who has implants and tattoos. She states she doesn’t have tattoos or implants (they are not in the stolen pics she has sent).

      • SSSD says:

        @Anon 5:45pm

        What were you offering them? if you don’t mind me asking.

        In my 6+ years’ experience on SA, after the initial interviews, offering $3k/mo had 100% acceptance rate; $2k/mo 80+%. What usually happened in each round of search was actually embarrassment of having too many excellent candidates willing to take the offer! I’d have to choose and cut out some otherwise very highly qualified and adorable candidates, simply due to someone else being slightly better: like a little more pleasant in communications or logistically easier to arrange meetings.

      • Sugarlushsugar says:

        Tinder guys do not often get sex and the ones I have met tell me that girls there want a relationship…..or are too ugly :S

  66. Anonymous says:

    e5f4c1e21

    if that is a woman, I am fricken Jessica Alba

    • KnownAim says:

      Scary, probs a TS/TV. I heard a real horror story of a mutual friend dating such in real life post meeting them in real life …. he then invited his mate + his OH to vet ….. hilarity and awkwardness ensued … at least the desperate guy had doubts ….

    • SugarD says:

      His profile definitely states Trannie-maybe he changed it after seeing your comment.

      • Sugarlushsugar says:

        Who is the tranny? How can I see the profile?
        I am super curious, ‘ cause I was onece asked f I am a boy….it was hilarious. ..but then again I suppose it happens here. He said it hapens.

  67. Anonymous says:

    Can someone explain to me why SA disabled right-clicking on images? I use the TinEye plugin for Chrome to verify images and now I can’t. What are they trying to do by disabling this functionality?

    • Anonymous says:

      Just guessing – I think they want to make it difficult to download pictures. Try CTRL-click.

    • KnownAim says:

      Must be very recent, I google search images and it always worked

      • Zach says:

        Right click no longer works. You’ll have to do it the long way.

      • KnownAim says:

        you are right, just tested it on that trannie profile. ok, print screen it, trim, create facebook page, upload to there then do google search 😉 you are also welcome to donate to my paypal 😉

      • Zach says:

        I never check pics. I just go by how a woman is, how she treats me, what her goals are, and in the end if her pic was real and current.

        She will tell me things about herself as she’s ready. I don’t need to become a private detective for sugar dating. It’s a lot more relaxed to keep it simple and let it flow naturally.

      • KnownAim says:

        Seeing how many non-SDs are trying to get laid and not support I do try to make sure I know who exactly they are ….. I have a stash of pics to send to someone’s wifey but delaying betting on karma credits ….. anyhow the longer it is delayed and the more people they mess up the more chance they get a good hit with no knowledge of where exactly it came from …

      • FedUpAnon says:

        I said this the other day lol and no one believed me. What’s the long way?

      • Anonymous says:

        SA are trying to hide the number of profiles using fake pics. They don’t remove fake pic reported via the site anymore. The number of deletions is very high, 90% of all emailed potentials in my inbox have disappeared – SA is dead :-(

  68. if the SA staff cannot decipher the difference between so called sugar dating versus escorting then that shows that this type of situation will never replacing good ole fashion h00king because it’s too vague to define . no man will pay a woman long term when he can sleep with multiple women and no woman wants to be known as an escort / h00ker.
    this is doomed to fail .

    • Anonymous says:

      Think SA is doomed to fail?

      • yes . if Brandon wade sells this site then you know he wants out when that happens . he’s such a non believer already that he decided to get married instead of using his own invention

      • Anonymous says:

        How do you know he does not see other women too? You think he is faithful to his mail order Russian bride? Are not too smart, are ya?

      • SSSD says:

        Brandon got married when it was necessary from a marketing perspective to make a dating site acceptable to the mainstream talking heads that still promoted marriage.

        Over the last half decade, the marriage rate in our society has collapsed. It has become increasingly clear that marriage is a bad deal for men (been the case ever since marriage was invented, as Mencken wrote a century ago in “In Defense of Women”) . . . while for the women, what protects/benefits them in the long run is not marriage but child support: 90+% divorces do not involve alimony because the men in those cases don’t make enough to pay more than child support. This simple statistic will quickly dawn on the women: 90% marriages are bad deals to women too! Marrying 90% of the men out there is a worse deal than being the term-partner to and reproduce with the other 10%, 5%, 2% or 1% of men.

      • KnownAim says:

        marrying is the safest way to get it on tap if you can pay :p I would also prefer straight 50% of everything to a mere “allowance” …. provided it is 50% of substantial net assets and income stream and not debts and debt collectors harassing

      • SSSD says:

        In that case, you would need a man who is smart enough to have made the fortune himself yet dumb enough not to have employed legal devices such as irrevocable trusts to protect himself.

        Entering a marriage with those expectations is likely setting oneself up for disappointment and bitterness after divorce.

      • KnownAim says:

        you have to declare these trusts now or be charged with fraud lol

      • KnownAim says:

        clever dipsticks are never too clever … just pay up already 😉

      • SSSD says:

        Any woman is free to fantasize about marrying Leonardo DiCaprio or Sergey Brin . . . doesn’t mean either of them would propose to her , nor she is getting any DNA material from either man, or even a hand shake.

        There is a legitimate justification for mandating paternal responsibility in child-rearing, as well as the necessary maintenance of a reproductive partner. OTOH, the lottery mentality of the marry-to-divorce-rape-the-husband crowd, and profiteering lawyers egging them on, have quickly turned the battle cry of “50% of everything” to 50% of Zero.

        The median woman statistically only deserves marrying the median man, who makes only makes about $1M in a life-time after tax. The opportunity cost is quite low indeed.

      • Sugarlushsugar says:

        I think SA is doomed because a lot of the men on this site is not open to really support their SB.
        What I read about the founder was that he was not able to get any girl. Now he has. What is wrong with that? If he is happy with this woman? Whats wrong with marriage or being faithfull? He literally was not able to get any pretty girl!
        If SA fails it is because of the users and not because the founder got married.

    • SSSD says:

      Dave, don’t you pay your ex-wife (child support) and your mom? Are they not women?

      Now, imagine yourself making multiple times what you do now, then supporting and helping past women long-term where your own children are involved, is really not much of a burden, is it? You’d still have your own freedom. Win-win, much better deal for the man, and the women too: not having to out-do the Joneses in a neighborhood full of similarly rich housewives and not having to mate-guard in her 40’s and 50’s against a clutch of nubile 20-something girls trying to get into the pants of her husband.

      SA is doing great as our societal conceptualization of pair-bonding (trading sex for resources/security for herself and her offsprings) gradually shift from “life-time marriage” to limited term-based. The “for-life” format has become infeasible as average life span has increased from about 40 years to 80+ years.

      • KnownAim says:

        Guys, if you happen to sire offspring it would not matter a bit if you were married or not for child support. There was this extremely useful precedent of some ginger tennis player shagging in the broom cupboard and DNA testing went from strength to strength since. This is where all those bareback demanding perverts should stand up and listen up btw.

      • KnownAim says:

        Personally I do not do the pill and expect “partners” to wear some silicon, go for a snip or face and pay the consequences

      • SSSD says:

        Legally mandated child support is the same regardless marital status between the parents. That amount is quite fair to the man who can afford it, and makes a significant difference in the woman’s quality of life: $2k/mo over 20 years is half a million, or more than 50% of an average woman’s life-time after-tax income. If the man is willing and able to double it voluntarily (as condition for not proposing to marry), so much the better: she would have 100% of an average man’s life-time after-tax income assigned to her, without any such man consuming anything himself or any chance of such a man divorcing her and taking away 70% of that contribution.

        When the annual allowance is over $14k, paying to an SB would legally trigger 40% gift tax, whereas child support payment is not liable to gift tax.

        Not marrying enables a high net-worth man avoid alimony payment and especially asset division. Given the sugaring context, the woman is likely joining the team after the man already has revenue generating enterprise in place, and would generate the same revenue with or without her (probably more compound growth if not for her spending during the marriage, but that’s besides the point); it makes little sense for her to take half when parting company if it ever comes to that, not to mention her ability to manage her half would be questionable. Fighting it out in divorce court would only lead to bad feelings and interference with future co-parenting.

      • SSSD says:

        BTW, the 100% of an average man’s life-time income would be coming in at double the rate over 20 years instead of the 40 years that the average man works in a life time. Essentially not only retroactive getting all the average man’s earnings before marriage age, but if the co-parents get along well with each other, and the mother has such need, the payment can voluntarily continue after the 20 years. Although for her own sake, its a good idea to develop a career of her own after the kids are old enough to go to school on their own, just to keep herself productive and sharp.

  69. Anonymous says:

    I love these profiles:

    What I’m looking for

    I have absolutely no idea what this means as I’m only knew but I’m just going to talk rubbish to fill up the fifty space field in which needs to be filled so yeah I’m blabbering on. Yadi yadi yada! Lol! I’m a makeup obsessed freak and can’t buy enough makeup! I’m makeup in the brain makeup makeup makeup! Wake up, make up. However, I also like being natural and giving my face a break from makeup

  70. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Sam

    Be careful with ROH. I have suggested a similar program for 12 hours and I was told, that a lady in her 20s cannot be expected to enjoy it.

  71. Anonymous says:

    GFE was removed and Tag the sponsor too.

    That means 2 things:
    1. SA DOES actually read the blog, but moderates VERY selective.
    2. The resident trolls have complained about disclosure of their favorite hangout.

  72. Anonymous_SSSD says:

    ec3acab31
    Wow, openly advertising as a sexual surrogate partner, sex therapist. LOL!

  73. Anonymous says:

    SSD didn’t get banned, but I did? for realz? What a new experience…In the 21st century? lmao.. I so want to make a personal note on this topic, however I shall refrain for reasons that will bite me in the ass otherwise. So, as all experts were saying, please, educate me to understanding, do that I will not be a lost cause! Pretty please!

    • Anonymous says:

      BTW, The below was a sincerity, and a sincere, devout “pretty please”, not some half baked venture from a bakery that cannot deliver. It is certainly from one that knows that sweets are for the sweet and to have one to drool at your baking, b/c the way to a man’s heart is through his stomach, or perhaps some old school rhetoric, well, what if it is?

  74. Alonebutnotlonely says:

    I see that “GFE” was removed from the blog—

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Lol it wasn’t very smart of them to use a known escort term on the blog as a sugar slang. until they put it here I had never seen the word associated with sugar.

      • Alonebutnotlonely says:

        Yeah—surprised me too—I guess no one proofreads the blogs before they’re posted :-) Still odd that I would be threatened with banishment for using the term they listed as a typical SA arrangement—maybe I should have e-mailed first and said “really?”

      • S says:

        I had never seen GFE until I came to SA lol. I thought it was a sugar term not an escort term. I’ve been walking around for over a year using it hahahahaha.

      • rembodler says:

        “…For with much wisdom comes much sorrow; the more knowledge, the more grief.”
        Ecclesiastes 1:18

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Seeking Arrangement…

        The GodFearingExperience

    • Anonymous_SSSD says:

      GFE is a straight hooker acronym from the redbook days. Lol! Never a sugar term.

    • KnownAim says:

      GFE sounds like a salt daddy term actually – f*ck and f*ck off, no?

  75. Another Anonymous says:

    Ad mentoring – sure, obvious nonsense to offer, very questionable to ask for

    Ad hanging out for 12 hours – a SD who can physically have sex for 12 hours straight is a wonder of nature. So what exactly hanging out means outside of intimacy?

  76. Amber says:

    the shaming that goes on here at this blog really isn’t nice. accusing people of being escorts because they won’t take slave wages. accusing people of being social misfits because they can’t sit in a room for 12 hours straight with someone. switching someone’s words around so you can attack them with fake things is so wrong. i don’t even see for what really. shouldn’t a blog like this be used for support? well yeah. why all the hate? why all the anger? why all the attacks? there are other places you can go online for all that. why does it have to be here where we should be supporting each other?

    • Fundude says:

      LOL this place has become a shit show.

      However, the sugar babies (particularly the less desirable older/BBW feminist ones) started the shit with name calling and shaming language with their omega cuck White knights.

      • Anonymous says:

        We never cuddle new-comers here. We want them to succeed in the sugar bowl. That means, we hold them to adult standards. This is not a place for children.

        That was clear from the day when the first profile reviews got torn to shreds and completely re-written.

    • Anonymous says:

      How did you survive the sleep-over’s in your childhood and early teens? Girls don’t actually sleep much during those sleep-over’s.

      Did you not date in college or high school? how did the 3-4 hour limit work back then?

    • Sam I Am says:

      Sad but true. It used to be more supportive. I even took a group of SBs from the blog that we’re having a tough time out for a LV party years back. If you go back far enough on the blog you can see references to it.

    • Anonymous says:

      “LOL this place has become a shit show.”

      Says the “man” who comes here only to stir shit, attack real sugar participants and play his broken record. Over and over and over again.
      Turning blogs into shit shows and calling people names seem to be the only “pleasures” in his miserable life.

      “I am not invited, so now I will come and ruin your party too!” *whiny voice and stamping feet*

      Jealous is what jealous does.

    • KnownAim says:

      @amber, grow thick skin before coming here; observe. ignore.

  77. Fundude says:

    Did that omega faggot Frank talk shit to me? LOL

    That was amusing.

    Frankie shhh. Go get some viagra or something and STFU. No young woman wants you saggy balls

    • Anonymous says:

      He certainly shows he is alpha to you in his wit. You got burned by him and your replies are never witty, intelligent or even funny to at least give us a laugh.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        +1 the best he can do is call him a derogatory name because he doesn’t have the ability to counter in the same manner.

      • Fundude says:

        Yes saggy balls is very alpha

      • Anonymous says:

        See, you cannot even come up with anything better as insults again.
        He pisses you off because he is much more man and much more Alpha as you will ever.

        Not by telling, but by showing.
        Over and over again, he makes you look like the idiot you are and exposes your ignorance.

        Sorry to break the news for you.
        You’re the village idiot here and everybody knows, except you.

      • TVC 15 says:

        +1111111111111111

    • A Nonnymouse says:

      Just curious fundude.

      Do you think frank cares what your opinion is?

      Do you think any of the SBs here care what your opinion is?

      Do other guys here see you as their leader? Do they acknowledge your superiority?

      If not, then maybe it’s you that’s the “omega”?

      I mean, if all you have going for you in life is coming on a couple of sites and calling people names….

      Sad, but hardly alpha material.

      Perhaps you might like to say why women might prefer you compared to frank. At the moment, I wouldn’t like your chances.

      That’s not to say frank is high up the totem pole. Not at all at his age, sorry frank. Merely to say that you’ve got nothing going for you by comparison.

      What are you going to do fundude, bleed on him?

      • TVC 15 says:

        +1

      • TVC 15 says:

        Frank would be the obvious choice. You could have a conversation with the guy; you wouldn’t be rewarding a woman-hater; and as far as I was able to tell from his avatar, he isn’t fat.

      • Fundude says:

        Frank’s a weak beta lol

      • Anonymous says:

        “Frank’s a weak beta lol”

        Says our weak beta troll!

      • A Nonnymouse says:

        Well, yeah Fundude, given franks age that might be a fair call.

        But you aren’t really any more desirable as a partner. Seriously, if it came to a choice between you and franky, I wouldn’t bet on you winning with most SBs.

        So, I suppose that makes you a weaka beta.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Anonymouse , you’re right, if there was a choice i would go for Frank. But there is no choice because Fundude is not even an SD ?

      • Anonymous says:

        Franks intelligence and wit, anytime! I cannot stand bigheads around. Nothing more unattractive for most women as lack of humor,
        manners, intelligence and bragging!

      • TVC 15 says:

        Yep. Even if Frank were a thousand years old and looked like Quasimodo he’d still be the obvious choice.

      • Anonymous says:

        True, I never go for young SD’s and if I did, i would not go for someone like these guys. Even if they could offer more money, which they can’t but let’s pretend, I would not be able to stand an hour with them because they cannot offer anything substantial such as a good conversation or a thoughtful debate.

      • Anonymous says:

        I have a 36 yo SD from NYC and believe me, nothing wrong with! 😉
        But someone fake like Fundude? Never!

  78. Another Anonymous says:

    @ KnownAim

    Ad being on call 24/7 – that is an empty statement, if you do not know the expected volume of calls. For a job irl it is easy to be on call for a client that calls once a month and a nightmare for a busy client.

    Ad screening – yes, absolutely, you proved the point for me. The last thing I want is to take a SB to a cycling trip in Tuscany, just to be told that museums and cycling are boring.

    Ad networking – outright impossible in my line of work.

    • KnownAim says:

      That is how Amber described it. I would accept £3,000 for once weekly at mutually agreed times.

    • KnownAim says:

      There is one arab looking dude here offering “high” demanding heaven and earth but he is offering “high”. It would not do for me personally though. I would not mind marriage on local contract and divorcing the shit if he proves unreasonable laters

      • Anonymous says:

        Mind giving his profile?

      • KnownAim says:

        gone now oddly enough … must have got sorted or reported … or maybe he did not have that much income/assets you have to filter “high” here to something manageable

      • KnownAim says:

        but you can always send me ££ to my paypal for more time searching 😉 I am not at all publicly minded as yet. donate to me = I’ll donate my time

      • KnownAim says:

        oh wow, he was a merely substantial pig e8a474221 but wait, here is another one who wants trial rides = potentially all salt e06030b2 … wants to fuck first and maybe pay later, needless to say both pigs are not from good families …. market trader types = AVOID

      • Anonymous says:

        I think you are doing yourself a disservice @KnownAim.
        One is verified and a paying member since 5 years, the other one just looks like a typical rich, spoiled but real Knightsbridge Arab to me.
        I have been with one myself and I can assure you he was the best SD ever. No strange kinks, extremely rich, no bla bla and a very nice person. And yes, found him on SA.
        I wouldn’t discard them like you just did, you would be surprised to know who are really behind some profiles….

      • Anonymous says:

        I wonder if that Arab is legit.

      • Anonymous says:

        Well, why not?

    • KnownAim says:

      cycling IS boring (and not at all conducive to fitness for an office bound worker either) and so are museums if one has see enough and is not striving to become a professional artist

    • KnownAim says:

      stiff emaciated cyclists and runners with hunchback posture look pathetic, this may kick in in or just after the middle age, but these types do need expensive therapy from that condition

    • KnownAim says:

      of course males recon they look glorious just because females are naturally politer and give plenty of eye contact …. that merely means they hope for a pay rise or a good marriage with all due perks ….. not like we admire your hunch or pot belly …. in fact marathon runners tend to combine the pot belly and hunch with stick thin legs in middle age, unlike people who occasionally lift or kettle bell etc

  79. SugarD says:

    Got my first rejection email(3 complaints for rude and lascivious behavior) from the mods at Reddit LOL -I’m so proud !

    @Amber
    “i’m sorry but idk anybody who can spend that long with somebody”(3 hrs)

    Whew! Actually you would be perfect for my needs ,but short and sweet pop ins are escortish unless you are seeing only one guy .

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I’m surprised you lasted this long with out getting in trouble lol

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Was it the thread with the Craigslist ad girl that finally did you in?

      • SugarD says:

        LOL That was it ! I think I was being very gentle with them. The regulars over there are so mellow-well , maybe even beta/omega. ” Well ,that was really great ! Good job!”

    • TVC 15 says:

      So if she’s perfect for your needs, does that make you johnnish?

      • SugarD says:

        Good point @T. What do you call a guy who only has an hour or two to spare for his SB /week and who are monogamous ? For a year ! Are we escort/john ? If she is seeing 5 guys/week unknown to me am I an accidental John ? A Sugar Cuckold ? She would be a hooker for sure . If we go out to dinner first and I play the Mandolin for her before shedding her clothes am I covered in the John department ? Does that make me a bona fide SD ? Who knows ? It is complicated.

    • Amber says:

      @SugarD no i didn’t say 3 hours. i said i didn’t know anybody who could spend 12 hours with somebody. omg xD this blog.

      • Sam I Am says:

        Hmm. I’ve spent 12 hours easily. Most recently in London: lunch in Chelsea, shopping at Harrods, opera at ROH, tasting menu at Sketch. Voila, over 12 hours. In Asia you can even tack on private karaoke and make it much longer…

      • SugarD says:

        The thing is @Amber, if you don’t enjoy spending time with an SD and just want to get your pay and run perhaps this lifestyle is not for you . CL or BP might be the place .

  80. Alonebutnotlonely says:

    The description of “GFE” sounded nice, so I added it to my profile—don’t do it! Here’s the message I received from the Administrator denying the change: “‘GFE’ is an escort term. Soliciting escort services on this website will result in your account cancellation.” WTF? Why discuss it in the blog as being used in a profile if using it will get your account cancelled—

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Lol that’s SA for you say one thing do another. Did you tell them where you got the term from?

      • Alonebutnotlonely says:

        Yes I did—the blog above says: “If you list this acronym in your profile, it means you are in search of the ‘Girlfriend Experience’.” But listing it gets your account cancelled? I know all about GFE and PSE from the “pro” side of things—if that’s what I want, I know where to find it—it’s not what I was looking for here—

    • Anonymous says:

      Typical SA double standards! LOL

      • Anonymous says:

        In fact, i was quite surprised to read it in the blog topic.
        Because me too was thinking it was an escort term.

    • KnownAim says:

      what does it mean again? ah GF experience … as in shag and f*ck off with no allowance ? … sure you should be banned lol

  81. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Anonymous

    “Problem is you want us to enjoy the same things you do.”

    Well if you want a long-term SD/SB relationship it would definitely help if you share at least some interests of your SD. Otherwise you will quickly become easily replaceable soulless body.

  82. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Amber

    Where do you live, if I can ask? And I am really surprised by that 3 or 4 hour limit. I do have two SBs, we do travel together and one of the things we enjoy is the opportunity to do stuff together outside of the bedroom. Like concerts, sightseeing, skiing, jet skiing, you name it. If my SB want to be on line and text with friends instead, it would be a huge red flag.

    • KnownAim says:

      But would you describe it as 24/7 on call? presumably you screen for similar interests out of the bedroom. plenty of salts here want someone who wound do boring shit with them like cycling or walking, or they describe attending functions as some “perk”, which is really a job … but might work for some who need that kind of exposure, if indeed hanging out with the SD at functions would be a sort of free advertising for whatever ….. sadly usually peeps are sorted for business connections and fully dig why an older guy brings a younger girls so it’s a waste of time in terms of free networking ops

    • Amber says:

      hanging out for 12 hours not doing any of that. there’s no guys here interested in doing any of that stuff. they just want to hang out and i can’t hang out for 12 hours and i don’t think anybody can. sorry nobody i know can. it gets boring.

  83. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Amber

    If 3 to 4 hours is the maximum time you can spend with anybody, then you are probably not a sugar baby material. Sooner or later your SD will talk about overnighters or traveling together, and asking for personal space after 3 hours will make it difficult for both of you.

    • Amber says:

      i’m sorry but idk anybody who can spend that long with somebody so yeah. as for overnighters that’s different since you have sleep time so that gives you a break.

    • KnownAim says:

      overnighters should = more perks

      • Amber says:

        uh yeah omg and these guys on this blog want you to be able to sit and talk and or have sex for 12 hours straight and there’s something wrong with you if you can’t? xD so funny

    • Sam I Am says:

      I agree. Every SB I’ve ever had has no problem with 12 hours together. I would not be able to have an arrangement with a three hour time limit.

  84. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Amber

    Did it ever occur to you, that if you meet only low baller, that just might be the market reality? From what you say, you are in comfortable situation and do not need the arrangement right away. So maybe you just need to wait a long time for the way above market offer.

    • Amber says:

      yeah i think you’re probably right. really all i’ve seen around where i live is guys who don’t really seem to come from money. and yeah before anybody says it i’m willing to travel but 3 hours away even makes no difference. the market’s bad here and that is exactly why i came here at first to vent. sorry if this was the wrong place to vent but idk anywhere else to.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Nothing wrong with venting here, just keep in mind that no matter what you post that there will be someone who disagrees with you. Part of the territory, don’t take it personally. If you came on and said $3,000 was a lot of money there would be a vocal group that disagrees.

      • Amber says:

        xD okay thanks. this place is so crayzeee

    • Anonymous says:

      It’s worse than that: whoever created this “Amber” character is projecting a female version of a typical male social misfit.

      If a guy is old enough to have a job that makes more than $50k a year (to be able to afford his $3k/mo living expenses), but has never had a girlfriend ever that would stay overnight (or more than 3-4 hours) . . . we’d all know he is a neckbeard social misfit in college and high school.

      Normal girls have sleep-overs since they are about 6 years old! Those last much longer than 12 hours: typically starting 5pm for dinner to at least 10am the next day after breakfast if not noon, 17+ hours! Dating in college also involve overnights; even “plates” bounced out of bed by football captains immediately after sex don’t brag about being kicked out bed.

      Keep getting low-balled just means “she” is not pretty enough; otherwise, “she” would at least have received high promises from scam artists like “Dave.”

      Just in case in the 1% chance that I’m wrong, and “Amber” is real, well, thank your lucky stars, girl. Things could have gone far worse:

      1. You could have run into “Dave” promising you a high number and low frequency, then never give you anything after sleeping with you;

      2. Some semi-con artist could have promised you a number and frequency that you could accept, then pumped and dumped you after a month or even a week’s pay.

      3. Frankly, pardon me for being brutally honest here, your critical and non-communicative personality is not likely to be able to keep a legit SD for long, who would expect you to perform and do the emotional maintenance for the relationship (i.e. being patient and understanding etc. instead of jumping to conclusions and thinking the worst of him) as he brings resources to the table. If he wants drama, he wouldn’t be on SA: there are plenty women in real life who want to reel in a man with money, and willing to put out for free before trying to ensnare him with drama.

      Every one of these outcomes would make you feel worse off than not finding anyone at all.

      If you are really so inexperienced with normal male-female dating, having never spent more than 3-4 hours with anyone, well, you’d be better off getting off the site and practice dating in a setting where you are not expected to perform.

      • Anonymous says:

        I don’t know anybody who would have fallen for that, I mean Dave and any other Dave would just get a slap across his face and told to give the money before the panties hit the floor, not after. As for the second opinion, I only do monthly so I don’t know how p4p feels.

      • Amber says:

        i’m not even reading all that but how nice. now i’m being called a social misfit too xD. must be the not being able to just sit and talk for 12 hours straight.

  85. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Amber

    Two months is probably a short time anyway. But it also might be something in your profile, that gets unwanted attention. We can ask local blogettes whether they mostly get verbally abusive answers after they refused an offer.

    • Amber says:

      and no it’s not my fault people are abusive. guys here just don’t like no. they do it on dating sites too.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I’ve never had anyone be disrespectful or abusive to me after I’ve rejected them. One of three things usually happen either they don’t reply, they thank me for letting them know and wish me luck, or they wish me luck and tell me if I change my mind to let them know.

      If you’re constantly getting the same reaction it might be the way you word your rejections that’s setting them off or your profile is only appealing to the assholes.

      Either way you are the common denominator and need to take a closer look at what you’re doing or have someone else you trust to be honest and unbiased look at your profile and tell you what they think.

      • Amber says:

        i get what you’re saying but it’s just how guys are here where i live. the guys i get from other areas never get like that and many have told me i have a really nice profile. i know it’s easier to just try to fix it from my side but i don’t really think i can. i can’t change other people and how they act.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Fair enough. I don’t live in your area so I don’t know what the scene is like there.

      • Marie says:

        Thank you for these blogs. I have met an individual who misrepreted his financial assets and was going on disability. He was trying to move extremely fast and was throwing out dollar amounts for immediate quickies. For sure splenda. I was told I was failing our potential relationship and he really liked me. I asked to meet in the morning to discuss our relationship. He agreed. Then texted me a no thank you. I agreed, but early next day he was calling. I chose to ignore call. PS, this sugar daddy didnt want to read the blogs. I thank you for the blog and one sugar daddy that befriended me and gifted me with his knowledge and experience.

      • KnownAim says:

        Nopes, guys generally go into butt wounded alligator mode in real life on well explained rejection …. they just cannot reconcile their wants with what is or is not available …. it is even funnier that they choose to stalk laters <<>> bloody hell …. how do they even dare … there is no challenge as such = pay up already = how hard can it be ??

      • Amber says:

        yeah Aim you get it. i’ve had guys who were oh so sweet 5 min earlier go into omg do i really need to call 911 mode in a split second. no it’s not me and how i’m rejecting. no it’s not my fault. it’s just how some guys are. they get violent and abusive when you reject them.

  86. AnonymousSSSD says:

    So what happened to the deleted msgs on SA? I can no longer recall old msgs. I used to be able to bring up old msgs I exchanged with someone when I click restore. That function no longer works. Any idea why they did this. I don’t like it.

  87. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Amber

    Just the last comment. At 9.23 you have never done this before. At 9.41 you know that most men are verbally abusive when you refuse them here. That is an admirably steep learning curve. 😉

    • Anonymous says:

      She has never done it because she has refused them all? :-)

    • Amber says:

      yeah i’ve never been in an arrangement before and yeah i have refused them all because so far all i’ve met on here are low ballers. and yeah go ahead attack that too. i’ve been looking for 2 months and so far just guys who want to hop to a hotel room for $200-$300. no thanks gross.

    • KnownAim says:

      Refuse them. In real life it is very entertaining how they get all shitty and then come to your doorstep begging, on that occasion you can call the cops and they would have the restraining order or cry big tears, come to their senses and just bugger off.

      • Amber says:

        ikr but it’s all sooo annoying. be so much better if they’d learn how to control themselves.

      • TVC 15 says:

        It would also be nice to win the lottery, have a flying car, never grow old, and never die.

  88. rembodler says:

    {{http://thefederalist.com/2016/03/03/millennials-support-bernie-sanders-because-their-colleges-are-a-joke/}}
    I think this is not funny. More like…scary. I hope this was a hoax.

  89. Anonymous says:

    Okay, first there was platonic arrangements – dinner, look but don’t touch. Then there were webcam arrangements, dirty pics, videos, live shows – Why not join a cam site? Then there were texting arrangements, flirting by text or WhatsApp but no pics. Now there is the speaking terms arrangement, a non sexual female voice at the end of the phone – nothing sexual, no meetings :-(

    Where do they get the idea that SD’s want this? I can assume there are a few oddballs, just as there are a few paypigs- obviously with mental health issues.
    I just don’t get it?

    • Anonymous says:

      They are just looking for easy money and no sex.
      Tumblr, IG and SA advertising is not really helping either.

      • Anonymous says:

        Look if they wanted money and sex they would join an escort site or a harem.

      • Anonymous says:

        An escort sees how many clients a week? Does she know who is the other side of the door? Yes, it’s both sex for money, but like an 18 year old stripper marrying an 80 year old – it’s not quite the same 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        True, except escorts get more money and see more men. Sex for money equals prostitution because you’re still having sex and getting money, no word twisting is gonna change that.

      • KnownAim says:

        The desirable ratio for the ladies is less sex for more money/better lifestyle …. how hard is that to understand ???

      • KnownAim says:

        no one is going to want to shag some broke dude every night, at leat not for long, maybe they lied their head off and it takes time for the debt collectors to start visiting … in which case they will be nexted or booted and the lady would try to make sure the next romantic itemactually got net assets and income

      • Anonymous says:

        “The desirable ratio for the ladies is less sex for more money/better lifestyle …. how hard is that to understand ???”

        For “lady of the night” perhaps.

    • Anonymous says:

      perhaps they are void of their sex organs, weak hearing, poor eye sights, mute, below 46 pounds and share an inability to hold up their torso, much less their pinky.

    • KnownAim says:

      if guys honestly paid, there would be no issue. Get first wife, set her up in style. Get bored. Be civil, still keep her in style, get second wife, set her up in style, get bored, repeat. But then douches are kind of financially impotent these days. I heard of only one proper bloke who basically keeps both women in style, and nopes, he is not arab, just a builder here :p

  90. rembodler says:

    My problem with the original poster (Amber) was her tone. Calling her POT “loser” and “cheap”. That was totally uncalled for. Not every offer made to you will be acceptable, but there was nothing “low ball” about it. All she had to do, was to say “thank you, but no” or try negotiating the arrangement. All the negativity and contempt could have been spared.
    I think I am going to ignore Anonymous posts from now on. If you do not have any ovaries to post under a consistent nick, u r not worth replying.

    • Anonymous says:

      yes, wish you were never able to write or speak for the rest of your life. A world without your voice and breath will be one step closer to fleas free.

    • Amber says:

      i called him a loser on the blog only. i was upset and venting. i didn’t insult him or be mean to him at all. i was nice and told him i just wasn’t interested. i’m always nice even when they aren’t. i blocked him because some men okay most men on here get verbally abusive when you tell them no. as for trying to blame me for your bullying sorry that’s not going to work. i was respectful to everybody here and never attacked or insulted anyone in any way whatsoever. he was cheap. it was a lowball offer. nothing’s going to change those. he was cheap and it was a lowball offer because of all he wanted. you can’t give someone your whole life without getting back even enough to live on. i think you know that. i can’t imagine you’d be that dumb and be successful at the same time xD.

      • Another anonymous says:

        @ Amber

        Just out of curiosity. What part of the country do you live in? And how much money do you need to live on?

      • Anonymous says:

        Don’t worry about it, AA. She is just a hardened backpage provider trying to upsell her usual $150/hr trick for as much as possible on monthly subscription basis. What normal girl, or even beginner escort, would prefer hotel over home?

      • Anonymous says:

        I think a lot of SBs prefer hotel over home!
        And not only for safety reasons!

      • Anonymous says:

        Then you have either been meeting hardened escorts, or not having met any SB’s because you are a woman.

      • Anonymous says:

        I am an SB myself, I am not an escort and I prefer to meet my married SD in a hotel.

      • Amber says:

        ewwww for the last time i am not an escort. nothing against escorts to any who are here but i would never. and yeah hotel seems better since it’s a lot safer. who am i going to run to for help at his house if something is off? you’re trying to insult me by calling me an escort but you know what? not happening. it’s gross to me but yeah wtvr. do you think you can stop being so mean for just a second and look at other people like human beings? or that’s too much to ask huh.

      • KnownAim says:

        rubbish. hotel = safety, bring alarm, no sugar = they wasted booking, plus have to run from the cops potentially. home = you invited, so rape charges are hard to press plus neighbours might notice something. no brainer. also, who wants a broke dude anyway? now if the broke non-entity works for the cops or local housing/government, the less they know = the better.

      • Anonymous says:

        KnownAim == KnownEscort?

        The “home” refers to the SD’s home, not the “in-call” location where the escort is running her business.

    • Anonymous says:

      I wonder why you don’t say the same to FedUpAnon or TheRealDave when they do the exact thing but ×10 worse.

  91. Amber says:

    @Anonymous
    “It was clear from the beginning.
    And trust me: they DID understand.

    Succes with the other pot!”

    yeah they’re just trying to antagonize me. i can see that now. i mean i see everything all switched around from what I said and new things added. it’s almost funny if these weren’t grown men. i’m not an escort. i’ve never even done this before. i don’t want to quit my job. i’m not uneducated. i’m not earning minimum wage. and whatever else these very imaginary minds have come up with. i think if i even say who i am it’ll only just be picked apart and attacked anyway so not wasting my time doing that either. i didn’t disrespect or attack anybody when i got here and expected the same courteousy in return. my mistake here i guess. if you hate women so much you should probably just stay away from them would be my advice. and thanks for the good luck anonymous! so far so good but we’ll see. what really worries me is between the guys i’ve met and then the guys i see on here if there are actually any decent men on here at all.

    • Anonymous says:

      There are decent men on SA, but only very few of them post here.
      They’re too busy making money! 😉

    • Anonymous says:

      Why did quitting your job ever become a consideration then? He never asked you to quit your job. Sugar is not a replacement for a full time job that is not easily replaceable because the duration of sugar is not contractually enforceable, and there is no recommendation letters or resume entry that would make you more attractive to the next “employer.”

      • Anonymous says:

        How could she have been at his back and call 24/7 and having a job at the same time, genius?

      • Anonymous says:

        Ever heard of flex hours jobs? Ever heard of running one’s own business? I have no idea what “back and call” means, but “beck and call” is a matter of speech, not literal . . . as most woman take hours to dress and put on make-up’s. A little give-and-take is normal. She was not interested in engaging that hypothetical client, which may or may not ever existed; she just wanted the drama of boasting having received a $3k offer and rejected it.

      • Amber says:

        um it came up because i would’ve had to quit my job to tend him 24/7. last i checked i couldn’t be in 2 places at the same time. and um nothing to boast about an insult. his offer was so insulting. it’s a put down and last time i checked put downs weren’t something you boast about either.

      • Amber says:

        and omg since it seems like you have to spell everything out here xD i never considered quitting my job. why would i have? so i could end up homeless? oh yeah what a dream.

      • Anonymous says:

        Is he invalid/disabled? Why would he need tending 24/7? This drama is becoming more and more absurd: “on-call” does not mean not having other jobs when not called to duty. Many doctors and lawyers are “on-call” while juggling other lines of employment. National Guardsmen/women are theoretically “on-call” too, yet they hold down full time jobs and some even 2nd jobs and schools on top of their regular jobs. One certainly understands 12hrs over a weekend is not 24/7.

  92. SSSD says:

    @KnownAim

    1. Women typically get worn out after more than 2-4 hours of continuous intercourse. Even the vaginal wall might become torn. “Ripping her a new one” may sound fun and make a deep impression on her when carried out once in a while, but not something to enjoy every day.

    2. Only a fool would waste all his time on a woman while neglecting his empire, and such a fool would lose both quickly.

    3. The best antidote to Female Hypergamy is Male Polygamy. A man who can afford $10-15k per month or more on women is much happier spending the same amount on 2-3 different women than on “the one.” The very knowledge that she is “the one” makes her think she can do better and consequently become unreliable. Exclusivity from a woman is a turn-on for men, but exclusivity from a man is a turn-off for women: instinctively perceived by women as desperation and unable to do any better. Men’s protective instinct want to take care of the woman who is attractive to him but can not do any better elsewhere: she is his special gem/snow-flake; whereas women want nothing to do with a man who can not do any better so she can be free to get laid by the man chased by all her friends!

    4. Nothing in that list from the hypothetical guy is out of ordinary for normal dating relationships, except for the video part, but given how frequently even young female movie stars leak out intimate videos and photos, even that is not out of ordinary for the current generation. The real question is how much does it take for him to “buy love”; the real answer is: if the price is significant, it is not worth it. He’d be far better off finding someone else who is willing to grant him the always-conditional female “love” at much lower price or nearly “free” . . . perhaps even multiple someone else.

    5. Sugar is a substitute for rich parents, part-time job, or part-time secondary job, but it is not a substitute for career building in conventional fields. A career of sex-working would be even more front-loaded than a career in gymnastics or figure skating. People, especially women, have a hard time endure living standards downgrade / going backwards. Extremely front-loaded career paths tend to make people depressed in the long run due to earning power decline as one ages. Unlike gymnastics and figure skating that offer publicity which may lead to good marriage prospects to lock in peak value, as well as coaching career to fall back on in the worst case scenario, sex-work career offers nothing beyond declining pricing power in the long run. If your Aim is indeed to become a sex-worker, then what you need is someone who can advise you how to invest your peak earnings wisely.

    6. That $20/hr job may not be worth much right now, but is a first step in a career earning much more later. Sugaring, just like having rich parents, can enable you to take the $20/hr internship with better resume value than a $25hr/job that has less resume value, can enable you to get a degree and build a better career in the long run, can take care of the burden of child-rearing early so that your career would not be interrupted in a few years just when your career is about to take off in your early 30’s. These are more productive uses of sugar resources; sitting on one’s ass and doing nothing would be a waste of sugar resources just like rich brats wasting the good fortune of being born into wealth families.

    7. Those women doctors and lawyers with expensive education and mountains of student debt yet work very little after wedding are actually poor marriage prospects. Sure, one of the two parents needs to stay home when any of the kids are under 4 years old so they don’t suffer from abandonment anxiety from attending “day care,” but after that phase, modern household appliances and commerce have obviated the need for a parent to stay home full time unless the couple decide on home-schooling. Having a job or a business of her own, even if a money-losing one, would go a long way towards keeping her occupied so she doesn’t devote herself to the endless game of out-doing the Joneses including becoming a “Tiger Mom,” an insufferable burden on the kids. Incidentally, I consider that another reason why men in the top 1% should engage in catch-and-release, ending up supporting multiple upper middle-class households, instead of becoming slave to a spoiled wife and rotten kids either copying mom’s laziness or losing any sense of independence under a helicoptering set of parents suffering from way too much time and too few kids.

    • Anonymous says:

      Cliff notes on every point please. If any of the advice does not make it into a book and onto the NY best sellers list, you are a complete waste of time. What is worse is you waste the bandwidth, others’ time and space occupation of this blog. Your existence is a waste of the oxygen supplies of this earth. May all the w_rst a _ _ident that happens today happen to you.

      • SSSD says:

        Did your attempt at cursing get into the NYTimes’ Best Seller’s List?

        The words apparently made an impression on you, dear, and caused you to waste more bandwidth on the subject.

      • Anonymous says:

        @SSSD, I don’t need to get onto any list. I don’t need any impression and I am not a dear.

        I just wish you the w_rst a _ _idents today. Plain and simple.

      • Marie says:

        Karma, I dont personally think I would have the right to tell someone is a waste of air. I kept reading for something productive. Not a cat fight. Like is there appropriate edicate of asking for monthly support. Not here to be a fool and I’ve never done anything like this.

  93. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Jay

    Yep, you are probably right. It sounds like a high volume escort behavior to me.

    Actually I wonder about some local contributors. Their approach to men, intimacy and time spent together seems so awkward that they sound like a claustrophobic guy who tries to make living doing speleology.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      That’s essentially what it is. Most of them are seeing multiple men that they feel no liking or attraction to. It’s all about the cash. There’s nothing to distinguish their behavior from an escort’s but somehow by labeling themselves SBs they think they are different. I have no problem with escorting/prostitution as long as no one is being forced to do it or underage.

      But that behavior is not a SR. The line that is continually drawn between both worlds is that sugar involves some sort of bond beyond the monetary/sexual exchange.

      • Anonymous says:

        I think you know most men on this blog don’t agree about that bond unless it’s in your vagina so I am sure they are guilty too.

      • Anonymous says:

        yep

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Of course the men are guilty of it too. That’s why most of the per a meet guys annoy me. It’s almost always per a sexual encounter and not per a meet and the excuse is always the same “I’m busy so I can only meet once a week”

        Don’t try to french it up and pretend you want something more meaningful. Yes you can only meet once a week but why can’t the activity be non sexual at least one of those weeks and she still gets her per a meet allowance?

      • Anonymous says:

        The men are as delusional as the women.

    • Anonymous says:

      When you where in you 20s yourself, did you like to spend 12 hours with the friends of your (grand)parents? Having brunch, visit a museum, having dinner and going to the opera with them? And now I am not even talking about the intimacy part!

      ….It’s not only SBs being delusional.

      • Another anonymous says:

        @ Anonymous

        Thank you for proving my point. That is the crux of the matter. If a girl in her 20s dreads the company of a guy 15 – 20 years her senior and she dreads the way comfortably-off guys in that age group spend their free time, then she is not a sugar baby material.

        Nothing wrong with that. She can spend the time with her peers and ignore the older guys, she can sell 90 minutes of her intimacy as an escort or she can try to sell 90 minutes of her time as a platonic rinser. But she should not plan to be a SB, she is just not cut for it.

      • Anonymous says:

        In theory you are right, but you know very well we are not talking about a 20yo with a 35yo in most of the cases.

        “What is wrong about 12 hours with your SD? That would be a nice brunch, a bit of time say at the museum, some intimacy, opera and decent dinner. It seems to me like a great way to spend 12 hours.”

        It seemed to the poster like a great way to spend 12 hours.
        But the bigger the age gap, the more likely we don’t like the way you guys spend your free time. And vice versa of course.

      • Another Anonymous says:

        @ Anonymous

        It is easy to understand, that bigger the age gap, harder it is to find common interests. I am just pointing out, that a lady who dreads the time spe

    • SugarD says:

      The bottom line is:

      some women will do anything for money and
      some men will do anything for sex .

      Hopefully many couples enjoy a real intimacy together but many are just “on the job”

  94. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Sugarrush and other bloggetes

    Please enlighten me. What is wrong about 12 hours with your SD? That would be a nice brunch, a bit of time say at the museum, some intimacy, opera and decent dinner. It seems to me like a great way to spend 12 hours. Why such indignation?

    • Anonymous says:

      Because it could be 12 hours in a dungeon/basement, locked up, deprived of food and drink and him using all sorts of tools on every opening you have. You want to scream but your mouth stuffed, your hands are tied. All you can think of is how close am I meeting death.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      It’s because they don’t actually like or are attracted to the SD. They can keep the facade up for a 2-3 hours but not for that long.

      • Anonymous says:

        Liking older men, girl that illusion is sold to men. In the end money is the force behind the arrangements, and without it there wouldn’t be any.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        It’s an illusion that you sell to line your pockets but for some it’s the truth. I’ve always dated older men because that’s who I find attractive so SA is perfect for me smart successful men in the age group I perfer.

        Unlike on traditional dating sites no one is suspicious about why I’m interested in them. Don’t judge everyone by your preferences.

        Am I the norm? No. I accept and understand that most young women prefer someone closer to their own age. But I and others like me do exist.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Jaybird923

        What is your preferred age range?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Mid 40’s to mid 50’s. Give or take a few years. It’s not just about age if you take care of yourself and I find you attractive I won’t turn you down because you’re a couple of years older than my range… but if you look like the main character from the tales from the crypt I’ll pass no matter what age you are. :-))

    • Amber says:

      12 hours is a long time. first of all it has to be on a weekend or it’s going to mess everything up. then it’s just a long time to spend with anybody. that said really i would do it if someone was paying me and i’d do it happily if it wasn’t all just in bed. it’s still a long time tho 0_0

      • Another anonymous says:

        @ Amber

        Really? So you never spend a full day with your friends? Never have a boyfriend coming over at 7 pm for dinner and leaving by 7 am?

      • Anonymous says:

        That’s friends and people her own age!

      • Anonymous says:

        “That’s friends and people her own age!”

        Then she and you should stay out of the sugar bowl, and sticking to escorting instead.

      • Amber says:

        actually no that’s just too long to be around anybody. who does that? 12 hours? sorry i don’t believe that anybody spends that much time together no offense. like maybe 3 or 4 hours and i just need some personal space.

      • Anonymous says:

        No, why should we stick to escorting?
        You guys get what you want; our youth and young bodies.
        We get what we want; the financial help and the perks.
        Isn’t that how arrangements are supposed to work?

        Problem is that you expect us to enjoy the same things you do.
        But with men our grandfathers age, that is just not very likely to happen.

  95. Anonymous says:

    e15454e41

  96. lili says:

    I would like to have your opinion about my profile
    https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e7796ad11/view

  97. Anonymous says:

    41 is a great pretend age to pick.

    e9a86561

  98. Anonymous says:

    General question:
    Who does reply to evident “copy/paste” messages?
    I find them quite annoying … :-(

  99. whenever an SB who is 5 inches taller than me, has substantial or above listed on her expectation, is out of state (meaning far away from my location ) , has read my profile and my salary , yet still sends me a message and wants to talk to me , tells me she isn’t getting anything remotely close to what she desires and the bargaining power is in my hands . minimal ye shall get as a response !

  100. Anonymous says:

    You seriously can’t make this shit up…

    @Fundude says:
    March 2, 2016 at 3:09 pm
    “When you give an opinion they don’t like, they just get to the shaming tactics and name calling”

    At the same time:
    “old hags”
    “Pieces of shit like Frank”
    “Moron”
    “Douchebags like Frank”
    “Post wall feminist”
    “Fuck TVC”
    “omega mangina old guy”

    Schizophrenic disorder much?

    I wonder if there is ANYBODY left (apart from his troll brah’s)) who doesn’t recognize this guys mental issues and takes him serious?

    • Anonymous says:

      He has megalomania.

    • Fundude says:

      Yeah they don’t like being talked to in the way they speak to others.

      Awww too bad

      • Anonymous says:

        You seriously can’t make this up. Maybe it’s time to go and see a doctor. … Schizophrenia is serieus shit!

      • Anonymous says:

        I haven’t seen anyone besides TVC say something about you in a mean manner, except her saying you’re fat which isn’t that demeaning as you have a pic on, and the people you call fat don’t.

      • Anonymous says:

        A mental facility will remove his male parts and ask his mother to sign a release form. There is absolutely nothing a mental facility, anywhere in the world can assist in his case. His mother, “Son, I am so glad you are home with me 24/7, my feet needs massaging and my panty hose needs to be pulled up after you wipe my bottom.” “I have been able to release #2 and need your big toe’s assistance.” Fundude, “yes, mama, love and miss my duties so so much!”

  101. rembodler says:

    I think most of us are starting to get a vibe what Amber’s job is…:)).

    • Anonymous says:

      How, for not wanting 3k for 24 hour service and quitting her job? I think we see what kind of affairs you like getting into…:))

      • Anonymous says:

        “On call” is not 24hr service. Doctors and lawyers “on call” typically only work no more than the normal number of hours of their peers, just more on-demand hours.

        Nobody asked her to quit her job. She would be well advised to have a job of flexible hours or at least get an education/training that would give her higher paying jobs in the future even if her SD provides more than her living expense. She wanted to “quit her job” because she never had one besides escorting!

      • Anonymous says:

        Please tell us where exactly she did say she wanted to quit her job?

      • Anonymous says:

        She actually said he wanted her to quit his job and be with him 24/7 meaning overnights. Surely, not 24 hours per day as he has to work but meaning sex would be on the table everynight, just like a relationship or a girlfriend. For that little, I wish him luck if wants to create a harem with that allowance.

      • Anonymous says:

        Exactly, she never said SHE wanted to quit her job.

    • Anonymous says:

      @rem, don’t worry about amber’s job. Worry about your own job. You will be out of a job very soon. No amount of shoe licking or begging will save you from being completedly bankrupt and cease off from L_FE. :)

      • rembodler says:

        Hun…do not worry about my job. Just keep doing your tests, Hun. And I will have my job. And once you stop doing your tests, Hun…I will get a big fat bonus. Just remember, my job comes with pension. Yours, while well paid, comes with nothing.
        Maybe an occasional sting and a brief jail time…:)).

      • Anonymous says:

        @rem, we and all beings alive or death wish upon you, extensive jail time in maximum security prison, pensionless life, numberous test tubes and daily bloom sticks, rusted chains and broken glasses be your bathroom rituals, amongst 250 pounds weight on your chest every second of your honey life. The same sincere wish goes to every family members of yours, including your granddaughter even in the case that you cannot bear children, your step grandchildren. :)

  102. Fundude says:

    @Amber

    My solution to this dilemma:

    Obtain 10K/month allowance from a under 40 year old male who looks like Brad Pitt for a platonic relationship where you meet about once a month or so.

    Shouldn’t be that hard to obtain. I hear about those stories all the time on TUMBLR. Why are you wasting so much time on this salty dude?

  103. Anonymous says:

    @Fundude is a jealous piece of shit himself.

    Other people, successful in sugar, piss him off and get attacked.
    Especially the ones who don’t lower themselves to his vulgar level and reply him in an intelligent and witty manner. And by doing this expose his ignorance once again.
    That’s why he hates such people as @Frank, who does this all the time. :-)
    They are far out of his league and he knows and that outrages him.

    Pathetic loser!
    Poor wannabee!
    Trolling numerous blogs and being nasty, because that’s the only way he is able to get some (negative but who cares?) attention.
    Like the little bully, ruining others birthday party because nobody ever comes to his.

    [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAKUy8Q9j-Q]]

  104. Jaybird923 says:

    There’s an interesting topic that’s popped up on the reddit blog that I’ve personally thought of before but never asked about. If there’s a medical emergency while SD/SB are together how do you handle it?

    So many in this lifestyle aren’t even honest with each other about their names, what do you tell the paramedics? Who do you contact?

    Hopefully no one will just runaway and leave the other in distress but it’s been known to happen like with that google exec case.

    • KnownAim says:

      Something worth discussing with them to come up with an alternative emergency contact and a comfortable story for the paramedics. Mostly a problem if the SD is married or in the public eye. Although if they are wealthy, they might have a trusted PA to take over on such occasion.

      • Anonymous says:

        Once was with a (married) SD with some health issues.
        I had his PA’s number just in case.
        This guy was always somewhere nearby his boss and knew about me, so he would have taken care of everything.

    • Nameless says:

      hi jay yes I’ve read that I don’t know why that would be a problem any sugar baby that’s with me after the meet and greet knows my real name and where I live I’m not married so no wife to contact to pick up the dead body I do have two friends that are named and have phone numbers to contact if I have a medical emergency but it’s just me I’m prepared to in case something goes wrong

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Nameless it shouldn’t be a problem but it seems to be for some. How many times have we had people both male and female post that they don’t give their real name to avoid blackmailers and stalkers. I doubt they disclose any medical conditions they might have either,

      • Nameless says:

        jay it goes back to trust there is none on this site haveing said that those people should consider what risks they are taking if don’t want to be found dead in a hotel room

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Very True. Lack of trusis one of the biggest issues in the sugar bowl. Unfortunately when you combine large sums of money and sex it draws out all the scammers and con artist.

  105. Amber says:

    @all
    i’m sorry i really thought when i wrote my op

    “another low ball offer from another loser. i’m getting so tired of these guys. he offered me $3,000 and i’d basically have to be on call 24/7 and with overnights every weekend too. this is so unrealistic. if i have to be on call 24/7 whenever he wants me that means i can’t work and i sure can’t live on only $3,000 a month. what is wrong with these guys seriously??”

    it was really clear. guess i was wrong and thanks for finally understanding what i was trying to say. i mean if the amount was something i could actually live on i would’ve been more than happy to do it but it’s not so yeah. hopefully things with this other guy go better.

    • Anonymous says:

      The drama is quite unnecessary. The fact that you would even consider quitting your job means that you either have no job or have a near-minimum wage job. If your cost of living is more than $3000 a month, which requires a job that pays at least $20-25/hr for 40 hours in a week to pay the bills . . .

      The logical conclusion is that you are a professional escort stirring nonsense and trying to talk up price. Good luck with “this other guy” or shall I say, “these other guys” :-)

      • Big Guy says:

        Excellent Point you make. Also, Pay-Per-Date is simply the best option so that no one owes each other anything when the night is over

      • KnownAim says:

        Talking out of your bottom much? No SD is worth bothering about unless they do something life changing in a positive way. Even $20 jobs are dreary necessary evil I would expect a man to make quite unnecessary. Even female doctors here only deign to work very part time. :p Guess who makes up the difference? Yes, the OH of whatever description.

      • Anonymous says:

        Big Guy are you into prostitution? Because what you wrote sounds just like it. Re-read it.

      • Anonymous says:

        Anon at 2:52 am, yes, BIG GUY is in prostitution. $75K certified by his high school superior knowledge. If his pet is at his size, how can he successfully subsidize its food intake? Cost $200 a day for both his and the pet’s nutritional lovely absorption.

    • Anonymous says:

      It was clear from the beginning.
      And trust me: they DID understand.

      Succes with the other pot!

    • Marie says:

      Negotiation is like chess. You say no and get what you want

  106. Anonymous says:

    KPF is probably the most important Sugar Slang I have heard and what really rules. The sbs want to increase the numerator, and the sds want to increase the denominator.

  107. Amber says:

    really didn’t know I had to be so specific to get people to understand. i’ll try to remember everything he wanted so here it goes

    had to be available 24/7 for meeting
    he wanted daily phone calls and texting
    he wanted full overnight weekends. i mean like with him alllll weekend from fri night to sun night
    he wanted phone sex during the week if he was too tired to meet
    he wanted to be able to reach me any time of day or night
    he wanted me at his house no hotels
    he wanted me to be monogamous to him
    he wanted me on b/c because he didn’t like condoms
    he wanted me to think about what kinks i’d be open to and give him a list of the ones i might try
    he talked about wanting vids of me but i told him there’s no way i’d do that one

    probably something else i’m forgetting. but really if i have to quit my job to tend a guy then sawry but i need enough to live on and $3,000 isn’t enough to do that. i’m sure maybe this would somehow be good for another baby and that’s fine. i’m not trying to disrespect anybodys plan but just for me i can’t live on that. respect my right to decline thanks.

    • Anonymous says:

      People sometimes assume the worst for both extremes. Don’t take it personal.
      I got what you were getting at earlier and your post made sense to me. He wants an on call gf or almost live in situation and you did the right thing in turning him down.
      If you really liked him as future long term boyfriend material then am sure you would have been more open to that arrangement, maybe?
      but looking at it from a logical perspective of an arrangement he expected too much and offered too little.

      • SSSD says:

        Negotiation is a two-way process. He gave a list of his wishes. It was your turn to present your terms. “On call” probably does not mean 24/7 continuously, just like lawyers “on call”/retainer are only expected to work when there are cases. I doubt he has the libido to keep going 24/7, not to mention he probably has his own business or work to attend do.

        He seems to prefer something more akin to normal dating in terms of interpersonal contact. If you prefer more of a transactional relationship and his fee is not sufficient to change your mind, then tell him.

      • SugarD says:

        I agree with SSSD. Counter him and explain what you WILL do for $3K. Maybe he is throwing Hail Mary but will settle for a down and out .

      • Anonymous says:

        The act of sex is not the end all be all like you men think. It could be she does not want to spend multiple evenings and ALL weekend as a gf would with such a little allowance.
        It is not all about the actual sex act but time and expectations. Spending hours talking, dinners, on call24-7, all weekend long every weekend ect. His offer and list of demands were not worth a negotiation. Just like an offer I had the other week. It was not worth a negotiation.
        in matters of relationships and intimacy not all of us women care to negotiate it out like a business deal either- it takes away the fun. It might not be *logical* to u men but that is female thoughts and honesty. If we have other potential SDs, don’t feel desperate, aren’t so attracted to him anyways, then we can and DO walk away without much thought or reflection on it.
        An offer can be so low and offensive that walking away or telling them how delusional they are is the most dignified thing one can do.

      • Anonymous says:

        “It could be,” it could be you are “Amber” and/or you never had an arrangement? :-)

        $3000/mo is not little by any stretch of imagination. It’s probably higher than 80-90% of all fulfilled promises on SA. It may well be the highest numerical offer so far for “Amber.” I’m in one of the highest income metro areas in the US, and when I was searching, mentioning potentially $3k/mo resulted in 100% enthusiastic acceptance to dinner invitation as first date with no pay; when the actual $3k/mo offer was extended to the ones passing the interviews, the acceptance rate was 100%. I only interview girls between 18 and 25, at least a 7 and mostly 8 or 9 on the 10-point attractiveness scale, non-escorts and non-smokers, either college/graduate school students or recent graduates.

        Yes, that guy does come across a little too needy, but it could just be his tactic to ensure that “Amber” is not a shoot-and-scoot escort booking a full calendar of guys by the hour.

        If you truly believe men consider sex is “end all and be all,” then tell him the $3k number is acceptable, but everything besides the sex has to be stripped out. Perhaps even offering $500 each 2-3hr meet-up’s and 6 meet-up’s in a month . . . just to see if sex is the “be all and end all” for him. I rather doubt it. If the man only cares about sex, he doesn’t need to spend $3k/mo. $3k/mo is way more than what weekly visit to escorts would cost him.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      We can only offer advice/form an opinion based on what is written. If you want advice that is of use to you, you have to provide enough details to form an accurate picture of the situation. Now that being said, Based on this post I would have declined also.

    • Candy says:

      That’s ridiculous. I don’t know how any grown woman could live on $3,000 in LA. But it’s probably a good deal for a really young girl who doesn’t have much else going on!
      withsugarontop.com

      • Anonymous says:

        Did you always make $50,000+ per year throughout your adult life? That’s what it takes to have $3000 per month after tax. Were you always prostituting yourself on the side to make up for the short-fall?

      • Amber says:

        @candy ikr it’s just really really ridiculous. i’m supposed to do worse in this than holding a job? i don’t think so. it’s supposed to be adding to my life not making it worse.

      • Anonymous says:

        Why did you jump to the conclusion that he wants you to quit your job? It’s a bad idea to quit your job even if he offers $10k/mo, as there is no telling how long he will continue paying you at $10k/mo. That is, assuming you have a legit job.

    • Rick says:

      The Amount is High for most men, which is the good side for you. But his demands were pretty ridiculous. I like occasional texts to keep in touch and answering mine in a timely manner are reasonable, but expecting you to basically sit around and wait for you to call is over the top

    • Sam I Am says:

      That is really quite a list. But you are saying your objection to it was cost of living… so at what level of support over $3000/month would all that make sense to you?

      • KnownAim says:

        That number is OK for odd weekly meets with a bit of advance agreement. Actually most non-SDs here were saying, oh come on, he did not mean his list as no one is able to perform that often 😀 😀 😀 yeah right Yep…. one could guess they had many problems, not just financial impotence 😀 😀

    • KnownAim says:

      I agree, the idiot was either taking the mickey or just a plain idiot. If one were married to him, they would be walking off with half of everything, provided he actually has any net assets. Must be one of those “high sex drive” cases who cannot afford it though. his demands are worth upwards of 15k

    • Fundude says:

      My solution to this dilemma:

      Obtain 10K/month allowance from a under 40 year old male who looks like Brad Pitt for a platonic relationship where you meet about once a month or so.

      Shouldn’t be that hard to obtain. I hear about those stories all the time on TUMBLR. Why are you wasting so much time on this salty dude?

      • Anonymous says:

        And here goes the ‘productive discussion’ FD always has with himself, which he eagerly seeks and complains about on the blog threads.

  108. SSSD says:

    Wall Street Journal just put together an interactive calculator that shows in what percentile your income makes you (among individuals over 16 years old and reported positive income):

    {http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2016/03/02/what-percent-are-you-2/}

    The median individual income (50% line) in the US is $25,780, or just over $2000/mo, pre-tax.

    The cut-off line for top 20% is around $61k pre-tax, or close to $40k after-tax (payroll, federal income and state) and retirement funding, roughly $3k-3.5/mo to spend on everything.

    The cut-off line for top 10% is around $88k pre-tax, or just over $50k after-tax and normal retirement contributions, roughly just about $4.5k/mo cash to spend.

    The cut-off line for top 5% is $121k pre-tax, or just about $75k after-tax and retirement set-aside, roughly $6.5k/mo cash to spend.

    The cut-off line for top 1% is around $310k, top 1% for men is around $370k, pre-tax. After tax and retirement funding, that translates to about $15k per month available to spend on everything. At that point, most men earning that level year after year consistently probably have spouse/children/ex-spouse to pay.

    • SSSD says:

      1. $3k/mo allowance puts the person directly in the top 20-25% in terms of after-tax spending power even if she has no income of her own. If her own income brings home another $2-3k/mo after-tax (i.e. median), her spending power would be well within the top 5-10%. Incidentally, Brandon recently on the Jenny McCarthy show changed the calculation of the $3k/mo from “allowance” to “everything the SD spends.” The average SD probably spends $1k to $1.5k per month on entertainment with the SB and venues besides allowance.

      2. It takes only a little over $1k/mo to move a person’s after-tax spending power from 50% (median) to top 20%, yet $9k/mo to upgrade from top 5% to top 1%. The steeply non-linear distribution curve explains very well both female hypergamy the male romantic tendencies / disappointment:

      A. It makes sense for the young woman who still has the opportunity, to be extremely hypergamous: the top 1%, 2% . . . 5% bring so much more resources to her offsprings, literally multiple times, perhaps even 10x or more in some cases.

      B. Men’s romantic devotion to wife up someone is also understandable: most male ancestors by definition could not be in the top 1% or even 5%, therefore had to trade life-time slavery to ensure reproductive success. His neuralogical and hormonal systems are shaped by evolution this way to ensure that he would sacrifice himself to achieve reproductive success even if he is not much of a success in life. In reality, he is setting himself up for failure and disappointment in personal happiness: 90% of wives who have not yet divorced their husbands report they would not marry the men again if the clock could be turned back! In other words, in addition to the 50% divorce rate, an additional 45% of married couples can not afford divorce; the real success rate for marriage is 5%! For the other 95%, “happily ever after” is simply a biological fraud upon the individual in order for the genes to perpetuate themselves!

      For men in the top 1-2%, it makes so much more sense to have a “catch and release” policy, so the women can be well-supported (even afterwards if any children result), so she can enjoy a living standards significantly above her own surroundings (even if relocated to a house of her own provided by you), instead of having to compete against other aging rich housewives living off their husbands’ steep income curve next door. As H L Mencken said a century ago: A happy man is one who makes $100 a year more than his wife’s sister’s husband does.

      For men not in the top few percent, instead of whining, work hard and try to lift yourself up. Until you make it, avoid marrying or having children. It’s not just a “modern” or “western” or “feminist” problem; it’s always been a problem. Find solutions.

    • SugarD says:

      Good analysis -a little lengthy but—- SBs should read a stripped down version to explain how ridiculous their Sugar demands are . I for one am not trying to vault an SB into the top 10 % of earners on my dime . I just want to make their lives a little easier. Ergo ,Practical is more than enough to accomplish that goal. Guys who pay more are basically wasting money.

      • Anonymous says:

        Well, you’re basically an idiot. Women come here for different reasons and some are of different quality, young, old, meet up once or 4 times a week so each arrangement is different. If like that SB who posted about 3k for a 24 hr service was requested, it would be ridiculous, and the min. for that which I believe anyone would accept is 6k. Now, for goals, if someone has tuition due to pay or wants to startup a business, I am not sure the allowance in the practical range would do that.
        And lastly, people can choose what they want to. If they won’t accept something for 10k, they will accept something for 50k. Everything has a price, even fucking old men.

      • SugarD says:

        Well ,that hit a sensitive spot I would say. You are right -each to his own .

        Ask and ye shall receive –or not. One thing that is a given -at Minimal/Practical I can entertain quality young women all day long . How many of these quality women can earn Moderate on up -all day long ?

  109. Anonymous says:

    who made up the term “arm candy” and what was wrong with that person?

  110. TVC15 says:

    Is it just me, or has everyone else lost access to their deleted messages?

  111. Sandra Jean says:

    Could I get some feedback on my profile, pretty please?

    • Michael says:

      She was more like a beauty queen from a movie scene.

    • Fundude says:

      Not bad profile

      Much better than most of the old hags on this blog who will critique your profile.

      Don’t take them seriously.

      • Anonymous says:

        blah, blah, blah

      • Anonymous says:

        “Much better than most of the old hags on this blog who will critique your profile.
        Don’t take them seriously.”

        Says the airhead who has never in his live been an SD.
        Don’t take hime seriously, nobody does. :-)

    • Anonymous says:

      A good start. One suggestion, instead of saying “I have heard I make for some great company”, trying stating right out affirmatively that you think you are great company and follow that statement by giving some examples or descriptions of how you are.

    • Anonymous_SSSD says:

      Profile is decent. Are you open to seeing married men and to intimacy? You need to put that in your profile or you’re just wasting peoples time including your own.

    • Sam I Am says:

      I think it is a bit short and generic. When a profile is on the short and high level side then more weight will be given to the photographs. In which case you should at least have one that clearly shows your figure (not racy or inappropriate, just your figure). That helps people set their expectations for whatever slim, athletic, or average actually means.

      Best wishes for a successful search.

    • VA Gent says:

      I especially like your “in the sun” title. You’re an attractive young lady. I’d lose the pic with your friend (does she know you’re advertising with her pic included? Are you implying she’s part of the deal?). Maybe write a bit more detail as to things you like and/or are looking for. Good luck!

  112. Anonymous says:

    The ‘guys’ here are very weird. It’s no surprise that no female who’s here supports them, not even the new ones. Maybe they should change their thinking.

  113. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Anonymous

    On top of fun argument, there is the fun of arguing with people without any social and other restrictions. Take Frank, here we yell at each other, insult each other and poke fun of our sexual preferences. Irl he is a multimillionaire with accomplished engineering career. If we run into each other, it would be on the level: “Good evening Sir, I would appreciate your opinion about a difficult issue. “

    • Anonymous says:

      Good reply.

    • rembodler says:

      I do not see a problem if occasional sparks fly as well. As soon as it is (mostly) productive. And taken in good humor. Maybe it is too much to expect.

      • Anonymous says:

        “Occasional sparks” are ok, as is good humor.

        It’s the personal attacks and twisting people’s words @Rembodler.

    • Fundude says:

      I don’t think I’d be nice to a douche bag like Frank in real life unless I got some value out of it.

      What value does he offer me?

      So why would I be nice to an omega mangina old guy?

      That isn’t to be a tough guy or nasty, I just wouldn’t be inclined to being nice to him in general.

      • Anonymous says:

        So you’re nasty to anyone by default, if you get no value out of them right? Because being nice is overrated nowdays.

      • Fundude says:

        Incorrect

        Im nice to people I can respect even if they have no value for me.

        Pieces of shit like Frank would require having value for me to be nice to him.

        Understand?

      • Anonymous says:

        Why do you call people on the internet ‘pieces of shit’ if you never met them?

      • Anonymous says:

        Because he’s a piece of shit himself

      • Anonymous says:

        Bam!

      • Anonymous says:

        +1

      • Fundude says:

        TVC posting as anonymous again with the +1 lol

        What a moron lol

      • Frank95 says:

        If you met me in real life Fundude, all you are required to say is: “Would you like fries with that?” Surely you could manage that?

        You don’t like Elaine, and
        You don’t like JayBird, and
        You don’t like Josh, and
        You don’t like women in general, and
        You don’t like men who respect women, and
        I bet you don’t like it when your female team leader reams your butt for burning the fries.

        I must admit that I don’t feel all that special here.

        Now, I’m off to sob myself to sleep, devastated because some anonymous guy in Walmart boxers next to an unidentified Ikea cast off doesn’t like moi. Oh, that’s right, my SB is coming round in half an hour. Guess I will have to sob myself to sleep some other night.

      • Anonymous says:

        Walmart boxers, BURRRRNNN.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        LMAO

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Frank95

        “…my SB is coming round in half an hour.”

        Good thing you posted @Frank95. You can let your SB read your latest post when she arrives to show her how desirable you are to other women like @Jaybird and @Anonymous.

        “Look baby, I don’t need game…the blog SB’s love me!”

        Have a nice day :-)

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Now now my crazy little impostor, don’t be mad at frank because we found him witty. If you keep trying maybe one day you’ll finally get it right and I’ll LMAO at one of your posts instead of LOL at you

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Jaybird

        You complimenting someone about their wit is equivalent to a deaf person complimenting someone on the beauty of their voice.

        Have a nice day :-).

  114. Fundude says:

    FUCK TVC

    End post

  115. Another Anonymous says:

    If mature means old, yes guilty as charged. Being old gives you a lot of time.

    As to chasing away, actually I mostly enjoy good arguments. YGBKM, Jay or Frank are my favorite opponents here. And I miss Elaine, she is fun to disagree with.

    • Anonymous says:

      Okay, fair enough. As long as it is for argument’s sake or good fun doing so. Mean spirited- not so much fun.

      If people were not attacked so personally then I am sure they would come back. No one minds good banter, including disagreements and a respectful argument, differing viewpoints ect but much of this lately is way outta line.

    • rembodler says:

      My problem with female bloggers here (with obvious exceptions) is that they want to hit below the belt, throw a huge stone at you, call you a john, an idiot, a douche a cheapie and not being responded in kind.
      If everybody were civil, that would not happen. That is why relatively new ppl come here and act accordingly, because they see all the douchebeggary and think that is how they are expected to behave.

      • Fundude says:

        Correct

        When you give an opinion they don’t like, they just get to the shaming tactics and name calling.

        They just don’t like it when you do it back to them.

        Fuck em, hit them back.

      • now you know what led me to scamming . many guys into believe that I did it but I got to the point that I was extremely angry at their antics and their treatment of me so I hit back with manipulation and scum baggery.

      • Anonymous says:

        But you weren’t on the blog but irl. Rem was specifically talking about the blog. Are you saying women treat you like this IN REAL LIFE? lol

      • Anonymous says:

        Probably even worse. That’s why he’s so angry.

      • Anonymous says:

        Look who’s talking!
        The resident trolls.

  116. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Rem

    Yep, it seems my psychological profiling might have been a bit overboard, but it chased TVC15 to illegality. Well semiillegality. The use of the word forte is a complete give away on her side. :-)

    • Anonymous says:

      You appear to be a very mature ‘SD’. Guess that is why you are here all the time trying to ‘chase’ others away and stir up trouble.

  117. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Anonymous

    Of course the discussion about divorce goes under the marriage divorce category. What other divorces are there?

  118. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Amber

    Just do the math. An SD whose schedule, libido and erection will support a daily meeting for intimacy is a rare bird indeed. So if the calls are going to be for intimacy, there might be one or two a week. So for a lady with flexible time or really low pay job, it might be a good deal.

    As to guys working for 3k, I know few doctors who happily carry a pager for similar money, if that means being on call for a really low volume facility,like a small nursing home. If they are called onice a week and they can handle the call in few minutes, why not? Of course nobody will do it for high volume of calls and work.

    • Anonymous says:

      And he keeps stirring the pot. On and on and ON

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        I agree with AA.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        You will not be “working” 24 hrs a day, and you really can’t calculate it that way. If it feels like going to a job that you dread, you should probably quit, and get one that you actually enjoy.

        I think you should’ve given it more reasonable thought, or got a little more clarity before concluding he was a salt.

        For some, I think that “on-call” means, “I’m not sure when I’ll be able to get away, but Id like for you to make time when I can.” Am guessing there is at least ball-park predictability, and reasonable consideration of your requests in the matter.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        I just realized…

        I mistakenly attributed/mixed up part of sugarlush’s post with yours, Amber. I think that most of my comment applies, though.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @AA @YGTBKM I agree with your assessment of the situation. The mature thing would’ve been to ask for clarification and express her concerns about the terms. Instead of blocking a man who wasn’t rude or disrespectful to her. Maybe it’s a good thing for him, she saved him from wasting time and can concentrate his efforts elsewhere.

      • Anonymous says:

        The way @Amber described it was that he wanted her to be available to him whenever he wanted and to stay with him during the week and all weekend as well.

        Maybe I interpreted it wrong but think if someone wants that much time, then they are looking for more of a gf situation. Not a *lets meet whenever I can get away each week’ kind of thing but I respect you also might want your weekends for yourself sometimes*.

        I agree with what you say @YGBJM and you are being optimistic but we did not get the SD’s side and everyone here is assuming details based on a general idea of what she said. I still think he is asking for too much if what she said is to be taken literally.

  119. Amber says:

    lard have MARCY! i never expected all this. i’m sorry but i think some people are misunderstanding what im saying or something. i think $3,000 for a month’s allowance isn’t a bad amount if it’s just some meets a month. what this guy wants though is me available at any time of day all week and that could mean up to 7 meets a week. i think anybody would agree that $3,000 for that is way too low. i’d be willing to meet up to maybe 3 times a week for that but not everyday. that ends up meaning i can’t work. i can’t even basically have a life. and all that for only $3,000 where that’s not even enough to live on. could you see anybody having an employee on call 24 hrs a day for that small amount as a salary? then i’d be giving sex too sooooo. yeah really i just think people are not getting what i’m saying. and to this crazy guy calling me a man i just don’t know what to say to that. it seems so far out there. would a guy really work 24/7 for someone for $3,000 a month?? i don’t think so.

    • Amber says:

      anyway you know what it doesn’t even matter because i already blocked him and i’m just not even going to think about it anymore. i just wanted to vent but yeah nvm.

      • rembodler says:

        Hahaha…the poor chap had a lucky escape. If he is offering a Moderate allowance, he probably did not even noticed you blocked him and now talks to 9 other women.

      • Amber says:

        idc if he’s talking to somebody else. i just hope she’s smart enough to get away like i was. i’m still talking to the other guy i was talking to while talking to him and will see where that goes. that’s just how it is. give me a cheap offer. i give you wave bye bye. you can try to troll me all you want or bully wtvr but obviously $3,000 month for 24/7 access is ridiculous and anybody with half a brain is recognizing that. see now these are the kind of guys i came here to vent about. cheap lowclass idiotic men who are just trying to shoot for the stars using a bubble machine. i just hope there are better men on here than just these types.

      • Anonymous says:

        There are @Amber, it’s only that most of them don’t post here. 😉

      • rembodler says:

        Hahaha…@TVC no longer dares to use her nick here, so she just trolls as Anonymous for most part…

      • Anonymous says:

        grow up, @Rembodler

        As if you do not ‘troll’. You are one of the worst ones.

      • rembodler says:

        @TVC
        You labeling me “the worst” is a badge of honor…;).

      • Anonymous says:

        i am not @TVC but being you are a supreme douche of the highest regard at least you own up to it and readily admit.

      • rembodler says:

        Whatever you say, TVC, darling. Whatever you say…

      • Anonymous says:

        He has problems with paranoia and thinks everyone is TVC

      • TVC15 says:

        It’s almost flattering.

    • rembodler says:

      The whole point was that you said before it was a salty offer, which it was not. Even SA calls it Moderate. You will probably expect other things, like dinners, hotels, shopping. It all adds up. This is a normal offer, nothing wrong with it. U can negotiate the specifics, instead of coming here and whining about the amount of dollars and smear the man who offered it to you.

    • Anonymous says:

      @Amber, it is not like they are misunderstanding.
      They PURPOSELY misunderstand you, just to push their own cheap agenda’s.

    • Sugarlushsugar says:

      Of course it is ridiculous! I got a similar offer:3000 euros for 3 weeks. But he wanted me to back my things and live with him for these 3 weeks in a hotel, as if I have no other things to do.

      Then there was another guy who visits my city once a month and wanted to know how much is 12h together. I told him it would be 500. I mean, ‘come on, I do not want to be 12 hours straight together even with my best friend. It would be so tireing, except that with my friend I can show bad mood and tiredness.

      These men probably do not understand that we are humans and have personal lives also.

  120. Anonymous says:

    March 2, 2016 at 11:44 am
    ‘Us against them’

    SD against SB

    Man against woman

    The details are are baited with feminism, racism, money, war, once in awhile an actual talk of an arrangement is peppered in but not before they are accused of posting as the opposite gender, if they do post something normal.

    That is all it is here. Everyday same old same old.

    Add to that politics, sex, marriage voting ever. Anything to stir the pot in regards to the blog being manipulated.

  121. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Anonymous

    Ad alimony – of course it was not on your list. It is an area where females in Western world have huge advantage over males. So feminists are not going to mention it. Yet divorce WHENEVER SHE WANTS IT and alimony disputes will go hand in hand.

  122. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Equal power

    Universal voting rights are established in Western world, females are majority of voters. As to female leaders of major nations – presently Brazil and Germany, relatively recently Pakistan, India, Argentina and Britain, USA and France probably in close future.

  123. rembodler says:

    To those of you who so desperately want to believe Amber.
    Re-read his message. It is full of inflammatory language. It caters to the lowest of the low. And look how desperately the female blogettes want to believe him.
    I kinda wish I made “Amber” myself…just to prove the point…;)))).

  124. Anonymous says:

    ‘Us against them’

    SD against SB

    Man against woman

    The details are are baited with feminism, racism, money, war, once in awhile an actual talk of an arrangement is peppered in but not before they are accused of posting as the opposite gender, if they do post something normal.

    That is all it is here. Everyday same old same old.

  125. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Anonymous

    Sure I would not expect females in sword fights. And their political rights in middle ages were not exactly stellar. But today in Western world they have equal political rights, but somehow their fighting participation is still on medieval level.

  126. Fundude says:

    Reddit will be no refuge for the delusional SBs on this forum

    Here is a moderator post from a sugar daddy mod:

    {{https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/48hqhw/to_the_new_sbs_entering_the_bowl_here_are_ugly/}}

    Wonder why TVC is back then?

  127. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Anonymous

    Ad right to divorce

    It actually said right to divorce, WHENEVER THEY WANT. So the issue of alimony, assets and custody is a fair question. If a lady decides to exercise the right to divorce, because she wants to and she found a guy she prefers, yes she can get the divorce, but why is she entitled to anything else?

    It is similar to job contracts. I do have a severance package in my contract, but I sure cannot claim it if I just do not show up at work, because the competition got me a better offer. :-)

  128. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Why should women fight the wars they did not start

    Well wars are usually started by a small group of people, but the potential victims are in millions. So when Luftwaffe was bombing London, English women were joining wrens and defending their country.

    Otherwise it is a logic, if it was some stranger guy, who set the house on fire, why should females help to put off the fire?

    • Anonymous says:

      Men start wars all the time, it’s like a favorite past time hobby to them. Not giving a shit about the consequences at all. Most world leaders who are men are egomaniacs and psychopaths.

      • Anonymous says:

        The last time I checked, Hilary was still a woman when she ran the State Dept, so were Susan (National Security Adviser) and Victoria (Under-Sec. for European and Eurasian Affairs). The three of them were in charge of launching the uprising in Syria.

      • Anonymous says:

        Is H*lary a man? Was either Susan or Victoria a man?

      • Anonymous says:

        Only goes to show your ignorance. Women were in charge for starting the war in Syr: Hil, Susan and Victoria . . . respectively in charge of State Dept, National Security and European/Eurasian Affairs.

      • Anonymous says:

        Only goes to show your own ignorance. Three women were in charge for starting this war: Hil, Susan and Victoria.

      • nobody disputes the peculiarities in people’s personalities . oh sure and women are not narcissistic and power hungry ? just look at Instagram so called models , divas on reality shows , or gold diggers on this site !

        if men start wars we also started all the corporations and modern inventions to which no female contributed. , so by that token you should not get equal pay.

      • Anonymous says:

        3 women were in charge of starting the mess in Syr: H-C, Susan and Victoria.

      • Anonymous says:

        3 women were in charge of starting the mess in Syr: H (whose name is being filtered by SA), Susan and Victoria.

      • Anonymous says:

        3 women were in charge of starting the mess in Syr: (she whose name is filtered by SA), Susan and victoria.

      • Anonymous says:

        3 women, not men, were in charge of starting the mess in Syr.

      • Anonymous says:

        (name filtered by SA), Susan and Victoria.

      • Anonymous says:

        Hilarious, Susan and Victoria.

      • Anonymous says:

        Instagram so called models are escorts, gold diggers on this site, but of course, you are on a sugar daddy site after all, reality show people are fame and attention hungry.

  129. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Women and war

    Given their historical underrepresentation in positions of political power, female political leaders are quite bellicose and usually ordering men to do the fighting. Empress Maud, Marie Medici, Catherine the Great from remote past, motley collection of queens in English history or Golda Meier from last century.

    And in present day women are at helm or close to the helm of major nations like Germany, Brazil, Argentina, USA and hopefully France. They are already ordering mostly male police force and sometimes armies into harms way.

    Why is this even controversial? After all I would gladly take baroness Thatcher over any and all currently available male political leaders.

    • Anonymous says:

      When there were no gubs but the fighting was done with a sword you surely wouldn’t expect women to fight would you?

    • Anonymous says:

      It all started with this:
      “How many feminists are volunteering to fight in Afghanistan? Northwestern Iraq or eastern Syria? How many feminists are volunteering to fight ISIS”.

      And my simple question was why females where supposed to volunteer for testosteron wars they never started

      So ok sorry, my fault, I admit I was badly wrong, there have been at least 10 of them who did!
      ….. in the last 2000 years!

  130. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Amber

    The numbers are very simple. In order to be able to afford and willing to provide more than 3k post tax a month, your SD needs to be above average generous guy in the top percentile of income. Thus you should be above average available lady from the top percentile in attractivity and desirability. Then there will be a match and an arrangement.

    And if you can easily refuse 3k a month, then probably you have plenty of your own income, so you can comfortably wait for the match. Good for you.

    But you can easily understand that out of job lady with overdue rent would view the offer you got as very appealing and would not vent about a crazy low baller.

    • Amber is a female faker trying to skew the conversation in favor of delusional expectations

    • Anonymous says:

      “And if you can easily refuse 3k a month, then probably you have plenty of your own income, so you can comfortably wait for the match. Good for you.”

      Exactly! :-)

      • rembodler says:

        That was not the problem. The problem was that he (Amber) states that 3k is a laughable offer. Offers are being refused for many reasons, we live in a free country. Calling that offer “salty” is how he tries to create controversy…

      • Anonymous says:

        No, her problem was it being too low for what was asked in return. :-)

    • Anonymous says:

      3k for 24 hour service monthly? I’d rather be with arabs for two nights and get 40k.

  131. Scarlett_E says:

    Anyone willing to check out my profile and give feedback? I am new to this:)

    • Anonymous says:

      you need better pictures, because you look closer to 30 than 24.

      you need to say some of your interests. How often you can meet? Are you open to long distance or travel?

    • AnonymousSSSD says:

      I agree on the pics. They make you look 30. Get some nice clear ones that show off your allegedly “slim” figure. The one that shows your thigh doesn’t look to slim. Your profile reads like every other profile. It’s not terribly exciting. Are you open to married men and intimacy? You need to make that clear in your profile or your going to waste a lot of your time. You’re cute but not drop dead gorgeous, so you’re going to have to step it up a bit if you ever hope to secure that moderate allowance you seek. Good luck and be safe!

  132. Amber says:

    thanks everybody who answered me. i read all the replies and appreciate the support. i dumped the low baller and i’m moving on. to the person who said it was a vent you were right. i keep getting all these guys who keep throwing these low ball offers like the $3,000 a month guy and it just gets frustrating trying to deal with cheap guys like this. i’m starting to think that not many men even have money who are on this site but i’m not ready to give up just yet.

    • Fundude says:

      Unless you are a supermodel, expecting higher allowances isn’t going to happen.

      Just give up now, your attitude is too bad for this stuff.

      You will just keep bitching about “salty” SD that don’t give you money because you are “fabulous” since you watch Sarah Jessica Parker.

      • Jen says:

        I disagree. I have had arrangements in which I was reviewing an allowance of more that $3000/ a month and that’s not including the other perks… And trust me I’m no supermodel.

    • rembodler says:

      I think “Amber” is a male troll trying to stir $hit. So that we all jump onto that calling “her” spoiled delusional and so on.
      Good try “Amber”.

      • Amber says:

        i wouldn’t want anybody to call me whatever and my attitude’s not bad. i think you both need to read my other post to understand what i’m talking about. you don’t have to start attacking me without even know what i’m talking about.

      • Anonymous says:

        They attack every female.
        Has nothing to do with you.

      • rembodler says:

        I repeat: Amber is a male. Trying to create drama. Let’s move on, nothing to see here.

      • Anonymous says:

        Amber, unfortunately there are no actual SDs here. Just the ones who juggle multiple cheap girls for pay o play. They think if u give a girl more than $500 per meet-sex/act and a slap on the butt then they are
        getting scammed.

        You are being more than reasonable and anyone with good intentions will not try and discourage you from posting by calling you a man. That is the same old tactic used time and time again.

        @Amber, you might find the sugar lifestyle forum on reddit more palatable. It’s troll season on here, unfortunately.

      • Anonymous says:

        Lmao!

        I thought they said they wanted new girls to post? Does that mean only girls who post about low scale allowance offers?

        Too bad they don’t make the rules in the real world, huh?

        You go @Amber. Do what feels right for u and ignore the haters.

      • Fundude says:

        I don’t think Amber will want to go to reddit lol

        Here is a recent post by one of the moderators with MANY SDs agreeing that 3k/month for any extended time is very rare. Only top women can achieve it.

        {{https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/48hqhw/to_the_new_sbs_entering_the_bowl_here_are_ugly/}}

      • Anonymous says:

        I see a theme here.

        To discourage anyone rrading from seeing other facets.

        Problem with this. People who know better do not pay attention to what anyone says they should or should not accept without knowing details of them or their life.

        And, FYI, the average arrangement is 3-6 months. That is not news and there are outliers for both under and over this. Just like allowance ranges.

    • ANONYMOUS says:

      Personally, 3,000 is not that bad… now the whole on call 24/7 thing is a bit ridiculous.

      • Anonymous says:

        Exactly her point. I did not see her saying the amount was too low but that the demands are too high in relation to the allowance.

        Of course, the resident ‘sd’s’ are not talking about that. They think you can have real live, live in sex doll for $500 I month, I guess. either they have never been married or are poor.

        3k is not bad but his demands for what he expects for that $3k are.

        Logic or reading comprehension problems?

      • Anonymous says:

        Resident “SDs” are poor.
        That’s why they are so pissed off every time they hear about SBs getting allowances they could never afford, because they are as as high as their own monthly stipend. Sour grapes! 😉

      • rembodler says:

        His point is that 3k per platonic meet is what he expects. Anything else is salty.

      • Anonymous says:

        ‘His point is that 3k per platonic meet is what he expects. Anything else is salty.’

        @Amber never called her pot salty or said she expected platonic dates.

        She did mention he expected 24/7 service.

        Way to skew the facts to fit your agenda.

      • Anonymous says:

        Resident “SDs” are poor.
        That’s why they are so pissed off every time they hear about SBs getting allowances they could never afford, because they are as as high as their own monthly stipend. Sour grapes! ?
        ___________________________
        +1

      • TVC15 says:

        Yep, it really irritates them to see women getting allowances bigger than their welfare cheques.

    • rembodler says:

      36k a year post-tax is about 48k salary. There are families living on less.

      • Anonymous says:

        And there are SBs refusing it. :-)

      • rembodler says:

        There is absolutely nothing wrong with claiming to refuse anything on the anonymous blog. Especially something that never was offered in the first place…;)).

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        ha

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Interesting that you find Amber to be a man, but fell in love with Aurore Dupin. You funny, rem.

      • Anonymous says:

        He loved aurora dupinme cause she only wanted a couple extra items at Macy’s. Low expectations, low allowance and big round blurry titty pics make men go weak on the SA blog .
        😉

      • rembodler says:

        @YGBKM
        Do u find it interesting how female bloggers (including yourself) never question a bitchy male hater who calls 3k “chump change”? All are in agreement “she” is genuine…;)).

      • Anonymous says:

        @Rembodler

        Where exactly did @Amber called $3000 “chump change”?
        Care to share?

    • Anonymous says:

      No, she is most def NOT a troll. A good SD or one who wants more than a few pay4plays STARTS at $3,000.

      The trolls are the cheap ass wannabe fucktards or straight trolls who post all day like any REAL SD would do. I mean right 😉

    • Anonymous says:

      For 3k tell him you could meet once a week.

    • IndianaSD says:

      While you’re free to value yourself at whatever level you want, the market will dictate your true sugar value. If you’re getting a bunch of offers at $3k/month, that’s your value in the market. You can either accept that or keep looking for the unicorn that’s going to give you the allowance you’re looking for.

  133. a member since 2012 . she wants moderate and the following : “I simply want to have fun, try new experiences, and be pampered by the right person. Looking for someone younger and very attractive. Not interested in relocating”

    she told me that she hasn’t had an arrangement yet . that’s 4 years , the market dictates that she is asking for too much and her needs won’t be met .

  134. Another Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous

    Fascinating. Women did not start the wars, so they do not need to fight in these testosterone fights.

    By the same logic bundeswehr soldiers do not have to fight under Angela Merkel, baroness Thatcher should have ordered females to fight Falkland war and males in US military can refuse orders if Hillary is elected. After all why should men die in some postmenopausal fights?

    And of course apologies to baroness Thatcher, the great leader of her nation and a truly inspiring example for any female or male, that determined effort can lead to success against very long odds.

    • men created all the inventions and the major companies and corporations . why should you get equal pay for mens inventions ?

    • Anonymous says:

      Never mind Thatcher. When the anti-Assad war started, Hilary was running the State, Susan Rice was National Security Adviser, while Victoria Nuland was Under-Secretary for European and Eurasian Affairs. The trio of female chickenhawks started the war.

    • Anonymous says:

      Never mind Thatcher. When the anti-Assad war started, women were in charge of the State Department (H*laryC), National Security Council (Susan) and European/Eurasian Affairs at the State (Victoria). The trio of female chicken hawks started the war.

    • Fundude says:

      Once again, these bitches don’t want equality. They want the good stuff from traditional relationships while not any of their obligations.

      They don’t want to have to serve the country in the military or be drafted.

      They want equal pay for less work/less performance/less hours/more time off/etc.

      They want alimony/divorce benefits and child benefits.

      Its all about supremacy.

      • Anonymous says:

        People are free to choose whether they want to serve the country or not. This isn’t communism.

    • Anonymous says:

      Angela Merkel has not started any fight, Hillary didn’t start any fight.
      Yes, Thatched started one, but is that all you could come up with? The Falkland war in 1982? In 34 years one female has started a war! Pffew, impressive example, really!
      ONE “post menopausal” war against how many “post penopausel” wars?

      Now, in 2016, at this very moment, there is 66 ungoing conflicts in in the world.

      So your example is poor to say the least.

      • Fundude says:

        Hillary supported the Syria war and Libya war.

        Angela Merkel is also bringing in large numbers of Islamic immigrants that she wants military/police MEN to stop from raping women.

        What are you talking about you moron?

      • Anonymous says:

        Ok, and now about the other 66 wars please?

      • Fundude says:

        Your logic is so poor its shocking.

        The argument was that why should women be allowed to be leaders of countries where they can start wars when only men fight the wars?

      • FedUpAnon says:

        The Argentinian’s invaded the Falklands…

      • Anonymous says:

        My God…you’re such an idiot.
        YOUR logic is so poor its shocking!

        “The argument was that why should women be allowed to be leaders of countries where they can start wars”

        No bighead, the argument was; why should females fight testosteron wars they didn’t start.

  135. long term arrangement = b.s.
    if I was paying moderate or above I wouldn’t be with one woman more than a month .
    however, there are exceptions where an old greaseball man wants a dildo shoved up his colon and is willing to pay top dollar for this consistent service – see damnvixxen for a shared experience

    women’s rights = go get your equal pay why don’t you ? you don’t need to be on SA.
    a woman should be automatically be given custodian/parental rights. that’s not equivalent to suffrage . that’s called entitlement . getting a divorce because hubby doesn’t pay attention to you but the gardener does is not equal rights that’s calls entitlement .

    you don’t DESERVE a long term arrangement on this site becuase you say so . the market determines the price and YOUR price . I pay minimal now for some top shelf vagina . the market (the female) is willing to accept a nice dress as payment every month. I don’t care if SA does not have a less than minimal pay scale . too bad . this isn’t socialism . i live in the USA. lastly , long live Donald Trump!

    • Anonymous says:

      @TheRealDave is that avatar of the monies you created to scam SB’s?

    • Anonymous says:

      But you cannot afford to pay moderate, so you have no idea! :-)

      • even if I could , I wouldn’t . retread my first sentence and the middle . the market dictates the price . if I was a billionaire i would still only play $1 for a candy bar . why should I pay more . now someone as old and crusty as Frank95 has to pay more because the market (vagina) does not support his offer . there is a price to pay for that too. having saggy grey haired unshaven balls on your face . pick your poison honey .

      • Anonymous says:

        As I said, you have no idea.
        So better not show off your ignorance all the time. :-)

      • I do have an idea . the market can be scaled it’s common sense . you just discredit what I say because you want to skew the blog in your favor without giving me a valid counter argument

  136. Anonymous says:

    It’ll be great to have advice on finding a SD it’s been hard . But hey I’m new to this whole thing.

    • ATLSD says:

      Go to Lets talk sugar for real advice.

    • ANONYMOUS says:

      Some great advice that was listed on another forum:

      Well the things to watch for include:

      A) SB states that she requires chemistry before intimacy. However, she still wants an allowance during the getting to know you phase. Don’t start the allowance payments until chemistry is established. If you start the allowance first, you might never get to the intimacy phase while continuing to pay

      B) Pay for meet should be the order of the day before consideration of monthly allowance. If you give a monthly allowance upfront, especially without establishing trust, there is a very high chance she will rinse (take off with the money) without seeing you for the rest of the month

      C) Dont fall for the sob stories about rent, utilities being turned off, etc. You will often lose contact through texts/talking on the phone but get messages later that SB needs money ASAP due to an emergency.

      D) Make sure she understands your wants/concerns for the arrangement. Determine a level of allowance you feel comfortable with pursing that makes both parties happy during the first few meets.

      E) Keep multiple options on the table, especially at the beginning stages, so you don’t get shook up about rinsing, flake behavior, etc.

      Make sure you both have fun as well because its a mutual thing!

  137. Anonymous says:

    A reminder for the “Alpha” Red pillers here.
    These are the rights -your so called- feminazi’s are fighting for all over the world:

    Suffrage
    Entrance to (higher) education
    Right to drive a car
    Allowed to have a bank account
    Pleasure from sex
    Right to have an abortion
    Work in any profession they want and get paid the same as men in that profession
    Choose their own partner / spouse
    Divorce their partner / spouse whenever they want
    Not to be beaten / abused / raped
    Allowed to have property
    Freedom to go wherever they want
    Freedom to dress to their liking
    Freedom to making their own choices
    And most important: THE RIGHT TO LIVE WITHOUT FEAR!

    You guys call it hardcore feminism, we call it common sense!

    • Anonymous says:

      Yeah, but you have all that already. And you’re only interested in equality when it suits you.

    • Anonymous says:

      Are you talking about Afghan women or Western women?

      • Anonymous says:

        I am talking about women in general and what feminists are fighting for.

      • Anonymous says:

        How many feminists are volunteering to fight in Afghanistan? Northwestern Iraq or eastern Syria? How many feminists are volunteering to fight ISIS? None whatsoever! How many feminists are fighting Radical Islamists in Britain that are raping thousands of under-age girls in Britain? None whatsoever!

        Instead, “Feminists” are dogging effeminate men of the West into surrendering all desire to have sex under the cloud of “rape culture,” and want to import real rapists from the Middleast! “Feminism” is a giant sh*t-test reflecting the unbridled irrational female instinct to secure robust Y-chromosome, even if at the risk of destroying civilization itself.

      • Anonymous says:

        Do you have statistics and proof that absolutely no feminists whatsoever are directly or indirectly fighting for and assisting these issues and causes or does it make for better typing rage?
        Feel better now that the vitriol spewed from your brain to keyboard?

      • Anonymous says:

        How many females have started the wars you are talking about?
        So why exactly would they have to volunteer in those testosteron fights?

      • Anonymous says:

        Bc if they volunteered in actual wartime fighting in Middle East, if captured, the first thing is they are raped dum dum. Ask some of the female military persons who have come back to tell you about what it is like bc you sure are not over there yourself!

        Misogynists never cease to amaze

      • Anonymous says:

        The last time I checked, H.C. was a woman (running the State); Susan was a woman (running NSC), and so was Victoria (under-Secretary for European and Eurasian Affairs). The three of them were in charge when the fiasco started.

    • Another anonymous says:

      @ Fighting all over the world

      Divorce their partner / spouse whenever they want

      See this is a good example. Sure the wife should have this right. But if she is divorcing her husband because she just wants to and wants to move in with her new boyfriend, why should she be given assets and alimony?

      Work in the same profession – great, how about doing equally risky jobs in those professions?

      And quite frankly feminists in many cases cannot care less about Afghan or Saudi women, those are just good smoke screens for being a professional justice warrior, as tragic and embarassing as an abolitionist would be in 1880 looking for some remote country with slavery, just to be able to keep the fund raising machine going.

      • Anonymous says:

        @AA I didn’t see any mentioning of alimony or moving in with new boyfriends. Just the right to divorce. And getting the same salary for the same job. Who in his right mind could be against that?

      • Fundude says:

        @Anon

        That already exists for >20 years you liar.

        Feminists aren’t fighting against alimony/asset rape of Western men.

        How come these “independent” feminists don’t come out against alimony? Aren’t women “equal”?

        What mainstream feminists are fighting the Islamic rape culture? I don’t know of any outside of marginal figures.

      • Anonymous says:

        If I remember well, some of your “hardcore feminazi’s” here have stated more than one time to be against the those alimony laws. :-)

      • Fundude says:

        Who gives a shit what some random anonymous feminist poster states.

        All the major feminist groups including NOW are fighting against alimony reform in states such as Florida.

        Thats the real feminism. Its female supremacy.

    • Fundude says:

      Feminists aren’t fighting for shit in the third world/Muslim countries.

      They are mostly privileged White upper middle class/upper class women fighting against “rape culture” in the West while keeping their mouths SHUT when it comes to Islamic true rape culture.

      I have yet to see any mainstream feminists say shit about it.

      Western feminist is all about privilege and special treatment for White women.

      TVC don’t try to bullshit us

    • Anonymous says:

      Don’t forget fighting against those whose favorite tagline is:

      “What would women offer if they didn’t have sex?”

  138. FedUpAnon says:

    Mutually beneficial meetings and liaisons. I am happy to meet for nights out/nights in, holidays and other social events and maybe MORE….. I expect to be kept in the lifestyle that I desire but you will be VERY WELL REWARDED. I do reward those that are deserving. You will need to prove you are NOT a time waster so be warned. If you are genuine then I guarantee you will be happy with your choice of BABY xx

    Why are they all scammers?

    • FedUpAnon says:

      Fun loving bubbly 25 year old looking for friendship only kind hearted and very genuine Strictly no sexual induendos I like to be spoiled, what girl doesent Dinner dates Holidays Event Plus 1 All considerd with right arrangement

    • Anonymous says:

      How is she a scammer if she’s telling you upfront about what you’re getting?

      • Fundude says:

        She is pretending there will be the potential for intimacy.

        For all of those situations, no allowance until intimacy is confirmed. Don’t allow any SB to string you along while paying.

      • Anonymous says:

        And you think there won’t be any intimacy? For me I don’t care, I have enough disposable income to get them and let them go, their loss.

      • Fundude says:

        @Anon

        Most SDs feel the same way.

        Since the literally get >5 messages per day from attractive women (I do currently without an active account), I can just setup an appointment with the next one.

        I don’t need to waste time finding “chemistry” while paying for it.

      • Anonymous says:

        “Most SDs feel the same way”

        How do you know, are you one of them? :-)

    • FedUpAnon says:

      She replied:

      Luscious Leanne
      A cash deposit in my bank account x

    • AnonymousSSSD says:

      Whether she’s offering intimacy or not, who knows? The attitude and lack of humility in her words are what turn me off. No thanks!

  139. Anonymous says:

    Hooray!! Finallly our resident attention whores have managed to grab SA’s attention!
    Great job Brook, dedicating 2 complete paragraphs on @Dave and @Fundude and describing them in “Salt” and “Tag the sponsor” to warn SB’s. Thanks!

  140. Anonymous says:

    Read the book, become the book. We are all a book: Let yourself go, for once. Read, and stop being so damn accusatory, and look through a different set of eyes or stay the mule in the field with blinders on, that never changes his scenery. the choice is yours.

  141. Amber says:

    another low ball offer from another loser. i’m getting so tired of these guys. he offered me $3,000 and i’d basically have to be on call 24/7 and with overnights every weekend too. this is so unrealistic. if i have to be on call 24/7 whenever he wants me that means i can’t work and i sure can’t live on only $3,000 a month. what is wrong with these guys seriously??

    • Anonymous says:

      @ Amber

      They make more money than you. To them, $3K is more than what most desperate, under-educated women make a month, in a full time job. They do not question, upon the offer, that you do not even make $3K a month, after taxes, and will certainly accept their offer.

      They look at it as, if you will not, another victim will.

      You decipher yourself by letting the ones who low-ball you, gather a few herpes diseases, a few other std’s and then they will come back to you, because you held your ground, and they realized you were a good girl. OR, you let them pass, and take their chances to find herpes, STD’s, AID’s, and then regret the fact that they did not appreciate an honorable lady. Before long, the regular Match dating site and the SA sugar site will blend upon itself and seek out people based upon character because disease will rapid otherwise. Hang in there, says sugar baby monkey, as others laughed her off…

      I suggest to heed her silly warnings.

      • FedUpAnon says:

        You know your worth, the going rate is $15K for one platonic meet and greet. Hang in there, I mean who would offer such a lowball offer of $3K :-(

      • Fundude says:

        Fed,

        Actually the sugar forum had a great discussion about the average family salary discussing how few true SDs there could be.

        Ergo, 3K/month is significantly above the average allowance. Most allowances are for lower than 3k/month for shorter periods of time.

        Most SBs earn far less than 3K/month post tax as well.

    • Anonymous says:

      For a live in doll? Probably 10k is the lowest I’d accept.

    • Anonymous says:

      How is that lowballing? What do you make at work? Assuming you have one! :)

      • Anonymous says:

        Are you kidding? Meeting two to four or five times a month- or, once or twice a weekend for a travel trip is one thing for $3,000 a month. This guy wants her to drop whatever she is doing, 24/7 she said, and see him whenever he wants. Get your head out of your bum. It depends on how much she likes him bc if I was really attracted to him I might consider that offer but
        it doesn’t sound like she does very much, so it is not a good offer in her situation.

        Also, what a girl earns outside of sugaring should not be the sole factor in what she can ask for or get while sugaring. She could have wealthy parents, not work and do sugaring for fun. What she offers and her desirablity for what she offers in an arrangement will determine this. Not her part-time job pays at starbucks=what she should expect in an arrangement and be happy with anything more than her hourly wage at starbUcks. Am I really explaining something this elementary?

      • Another anonymous says:

        Really. An independently wealthy young girl with wealthy parents, not working and doing sugar for fun instead of dating who ever she wants for fun? How frequent is that?

      • Another anonymous says:

        @ Anonymous

        Speaking about higkly paid people versus part time Starbucks job. What is their opportunity cost difference?

      • Anonymous says:

        About as frequent as getting a girl, on call 24/7 for $3000 a month. It is a less common example but if I recall the SB that killed the Google exec came from very wealthy parents. Not the most shining example but girls from wealthy families sugar too.

        SBs who are not desperate for the money but want extras and luxuries are here as well. Every SB is not on the site out of desperation due to a minimum wage job with little to no income.

      • Anonymous says:

        Re: oppur unity cost.

        I get what you are trying to imply but depends on what other offers one has or if the opportunity is not worth the cost to peace of mind. I am willing and able to walk away from an arrangement of i do not like the terms.

        I do not consider it a loss imo

    • Another anonymous says:

      @ Amber

      Why is it such a big deal? If the 3k a month after taxes (most likely above 60k yearly before taxes, above median family income) is a chump change for you, next him and just move on.

      • Anonymous says:

        I don’t think it is about the money only. the demands and expectations do not align with the money offered as compensation for expected time and demands.

        It sound like she is moving on but we all a right to rant here on occasion.

        Unless you are one of @FunDude club then you rant and rage 24 hours a day loL.

  142. Anonymous says:

    @ southern sb,

    Love, with in whom has my heat at best…From your wheel chair vistims to the men that pause on their canes, to the men who drive a hot rode and squeal their tires at your sexy ass, burning rubber to prove to you, that they have other means of rubber to burn, if y9ou will just flip your log hair in their direction and gaze at them.

    If men were fashioned to hone in on Jay, Elaine, You and the cherished ladies (ah hem, ladies that comment here, not the trash), there is a difference you know as well as I.

    Then, perhaps, once again we would find the days where the man MUST compliment the female, or at least bare fair game in a competitive sexual indulgence of words and if such is no6t presented, nor kept than it does become a “tango, foxtrot” world, that retains no value.

    Kudos to you and all of the ladies of the blog that know how to wrangle the nonsense to commence and can give AN ADEQUATE synopsis of the date and companionship/exquisite sexual competence that the mate provides to you. Otherwise, it is an incompetence, that in all honesty, none of us prefer to discuss, for shame upon the one with whom we could link back to us, and we prefer not to expose the embarrassment of choosing.

  143. Jaybird923 says:

    Jesus! I’ve been reading the posts on that tag the sponsor website ….the things people are willing to do for the almighty dollar… I don’t know why I’m surprised

    • Blake says:

      You know it…..

    • FedUpAnon says:

      You mean Hard sports, Water sports, and an Arab gang bang for $10K a week?
      Whilst in reality we know $15K platonic dinners are the norm?

      • Anonymous says:

        Arab? Oh, that is the ultimate hot spot my friend. The sexual freaks that women beg for, along with the women who convulse in hysterics for the men. The men who shake and shimmy over the women and have a two edged tongue, just to have a taste upon their lips for the Arabian nation. It does noyt mean that they are Islamic. It does not mean that they are betraying their country. It simply implies that they have tasted the desert and come upon an oasis that quench3d their thirst, greater than any other sexual partner to date could, and they desire the same or another in liken.

        Slam dunk, boo-yah! What do the mere-mortals offer? Far from what has been experienced in comparison. lmao, you are welcome. :)

      • Anonymous says:

        A.K.A. Ebonics means that the sex was the beast they have ever had. What did you think? If you couldn’t figure out that the participants comment meant the above comment, then apparently, you have never has sex outside of your own race.

        Explore a little, travel, live a little, or stay in your little box. Its up to you. :) Stay in your skinny jeans, while others explore what is now in style and hopefully, your skinny jeans become some super sensitive, autistic defensive news that stays an object of science. lmao, but we doubt it.

      • Anonymous says:

        lmao.. Did we say the “beast”? That must be why he received his own article in the daily newspaper. But he was the beast and the BEST, that reserved his own space in the “cloud” and took up so much space…That you wound up having to find your own back up cloud. This one we recorded and protected, his sex was sooo damn good, that we refused to let anyone infringe on the rights of what wee had protected, whether you could see it or not. We knew what we found and saw, and that is all that matters. We bought proof to the back up rights in the cloud. Riding that man like a Unicorn in the clouds. Good God, a liquid dream. Moderator needed.

      • FedUpAnon says:

        You really need to get out more 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        @ FedUpAnon,

        I need to get out more?

        Says the loser posting on a blog. Spare me, would you like me to turn you over in the sun? So your back side does not scorch?
        You are nothing more than a flimsy particle, like parchment paper. Give it up.

      • FedUpAnon says:

        Loser or on another planet screwball nutjob? I am only unlucky in NSA sex with girls out of my league, the rest of my life is fine. Hence, why I can afford such Unicorns er SB’s if they existed 😉

    • Nameless says:

      what things is that jay

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Scat, sleeping with a 13 year old down syndrome boy, inserting fish into the rectum just to name a few

  144. FedUpAnon says:

    Splenda or Salt is how you are shamed on Tumblr for not accepting that $15000.00 platonic dinner dates do not exist. Why not have RINSER or SCAMMER posted above?

    • Fundude says:

      Thats why those bitches are on TUMBLR in an echo chamber bullshitting each other on mythical allowances.

      Perfect place for a fat and stupid feminist like TVC lol

      • Anonymous says:

        @ Fun Dumb,

        You are sooo jealous that no woman here is pasing your cock as the one above, Get over yourself. Apparently, there is an Arabian running wild or silently that can out-do, you.

        I would say that you are confident. But, with the best of intentions, we have yet to see a woman come on the blog, to testify of your Doctorate claim to fame. However, other have commented to the performance claim of fame to riding a camel and laying in passionate silk sheets that you have never provided to date. Don’t hate, just appreciate.

        You can always write a song. Want to hear it? :Lets hear it, hear you go…

        I would offer up a tune, but I am not the musical lyricist on the blog, therefore I presume you are in hiding. Do you have an iconic link to project us to?

      • FedUpAnon says:

        I had no idea web devices were allowed in padded cells. Well, you live and learn :-)

      • Anonymous says:

        @ Fun dude (Get ready for a book…I am offering you more than you do me. I have to jack off to your comments) When will you make me wet? To where will jump another mans bones based on your words? That is what a true artist can do. What are you? water color in the connect the dot lines?

        I bet money and of course, not the monopoly kind, that if you did TVC, that you would not regret it. You hate on her so much, that she just might be the “Totally Vivacious Cable Channel” (a.k.a. TVC) that you ever encountered that you make your channel go public with sex so good that you know you would make money off of.

        Shame on us all for thinking such. lmao, yeah right. Just like all of the legal porn channels that you pay for apologize fir all of the money that they have made over the years, decades, centuries and for the newfound talent/yeah right.

        But hey, Bro…We will believe what you tell us because we follow you as an iconic blog figure, so we are all ears’ to your thoughts, no doubt.
        That is, unless Elaine of JayBird, or Another female figure can decently argue the false argument made here.

        Tune in to Seth Myers, Saturday Night Live, Jimmy Fallon, you name it (American based only, of course) and this topic is nothing new and nothing new discussed.) Again, this is “Bro, Americana” talk for auditions, nothing new and nothing that cannot be discussed, as normal commentary of the ages to see as if it will be passed along to the ages.,

        Last comment, I can have the Rock, like a wmma, or an Arabic man that is cocked, locked and loaded in sexual, elite, passion that supersedes as an MMA fighter, but slowly lays the woman down and slowly makes love to her all night long over a 6-8 hour period? OMG, He is a game changer. I say “lets go places” (like a commercial, can you?, goodness, I want to be hanging on to more than his words and call him by more than his name and whatever he says it will be, as long as he is in agreement with me, will be. Then again, he has to know me, to know what will be.

        That is where the ball is dropped and where the lack is intercepted to loss. I