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Top Tips For Gay Sugar Daddies

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Sugar comes in many forms, and LGBT arrangements are one of the many variations. Most Sugar Daddy advice applies to all genders and sexual orientations, but there are some top tips specifically for gay Sugar Daddies.

OPEN HONESTY

This is important with all arrangements, but especially in the LGBT community where people seeking arrangements may or may not want to be monogamous. Both sides need to be upfront about relationship expectations and how promiscuous they want their partner to be. This is a no brainer, but everyone should be wearing protection either way. Don’t be afraid to delve into your Sugar Baby’s lifestyle. If he is the experimenting type, or an avid drinker, etc. these could be signs of a dead end road ahead.

CLOSET COORDINATION

We’re not talking fashion here. Choosing an arrangement over a traditional relationship might mean that he’s not openly gay. This rule of thumb goes for Babies and Daddies. As with any type of relationship, be respectful and approach the topic with grace. Be extremely careful when approaching the topic, and always use discretion, such as not calling or texting first. If your discretion is of utmost importance to you, communicate that message in your profile.

G.U.Y.

For many gay men, this is a very important part of a relationship. Without making him uncomfortable, or being too blunt, ask if sexual position preference is important to him. Some men might not want to be intimate at all, but if you don’t match in the bedroom, it might not work out. This could be a way to transition into potential fetishes you and him may share.

CUNNING CONVERSATIONALIST

Being talkative and having meaningful things to say are not one in the same. With younger men, seek out someone who can offer mature conversation. An easy discussion topic to start with is school or work. Learning about these two things will give you a launch pad to start negotiations. If he spends his weekend racking up credit card debt at Nordstrom, he may just be looking for handouts. Don’t be afraid to let him carry the conversation. If he can hold his own on the topics of art and wine, he may be a keeper.

BROADEN YOUR HORIZONS

Since there are not as many LGBT as heterosexuals, the search pool in your area is likely smaller than the average Sugar Daddy. Mix up your location, or set your radius wider when using the search function on SeekingArrangement to maximize results. If you open to travelling, that could be something worth including in your messages to potential Babies.

Good luck! The Sugar Gods are on your side! May they be forever in your favor.

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1,220 Responses to “Top Tips For Gay Sugar Daddies”

  1. PrinceDaniel says:

    Hi, I am a top class SB, well mannered, travelled and experienced in life SB, based in London. I lived in a few countries and appreciated the beauty of the world and the generous heart and precious soul of my man! I am keen on finally meeting… YOU! :) Hit me up!

  2. Jesse says:

    I have been a member for 2 years now and have absolutely no luck in finding a sugar daddy. I live in Houston, TX so I should have many options, In the 2 years I have gotten 2 messages and nothing came of them. I have messaged a good amount of men but none ever get back to me. I feel like I must be doing something wrong. Would someone be willing to take a look at my profile and tell me what you think, maybe give me some ways to be more appealing?

    My Username is: J_sugar94

  3. Anonymous says:

    How to Find A Gay Sugar Daddy Relationship
    There have always been many gay sugar daddy/houseboy type arrangements. Indeed, a sugar daddy relationship can be ideally suited for gay Daddies and Babies. (For many reasons: no children of their own, open relationship, social dynamic, etc.) Although it appears there are many successfully sugar daddy relationships from Seeking Arrangements; gay sugar daddy relationships might be more difficult to start. So what’s the problem? What follows is just my opinion and observations.
    An Actual Daddy Needs To Have An Interview Process
    A sugar baby who demands a commitment of money (or being paid before meeting or on the first meeting), is ensuring they will not find a Daddy interested in an actual sugar daddy relationship. The Daddy who immediately says they will give you money first, is probably not going to turn into a sugar daddy relationship. Instead, the Daddy who wants to meet first for coffee, lunch, dinner; to see if there is compatibility is the Daddy actually intent on seeking a sugar daddy relationship.
    This may appear inverse to the Baby who is looking eager to find a Sugar Daddy. Yet, by not being willing to meet for dates to see if there could be mutual feelings and compatibility; the Baby precluding the possibility of finding an actual daddy relationship. Instead, what the baby will get is meetings with someone, who is looking for a one-time meeting. Look at it another way, the faster the daddy jumps into it; the shorter it will last, and the more likely it is not going to be a sugar daddy relationship.
    Why is this so? Because the Daddy is not just interested in a sexual relationship by itself. A Daddy is seeking a caring relationship on some level with the Baby. A Daddy is not just going to give money to a random cute Baby for the sake of agreeing online to do so. Feelings don’t work that way. It is the feelings that develop (friendship, companionship, physical, love, paternal) that sustain a Sugar Daddy Arrangement. The best approach for a Baby is to try to address what the Daddy is looking for in the relationship. Trust me, this Baby will stand out on SA.
    Nearly always, the Baby messages on SA, only speaking of their need for money. Hardly any Baby ever mentions anything about what Daddy might be expecting or seeking in a relationship. Nearly all Babies message on SA only about their interest in Daddy giving them money. That’s it. Indeed, I have thought more than once, to save time, I should just mail them money. No need to even meet them.
    To maintain a sugar daddy relationship (or any relationship) a Baby needs to understand what Daddy needs in the relationship. Try caring about what the other person is interested in to successfully start a sugar daddy relationship.
    Indeed, the apparent Daddy who agrees to an allowance of some amount before even meeting the Baby, is not actually going to be a sugar daddy relationship. And there won’t be an allowance either. Instead, the prospective daddy who is wants to meet first and develop something by going out several times is the one that can possibly develop into a sugar daddy relationship. To be clear, it is appropriate to communicate online before meeting, what the sugar daddy expects to be able to contribute to a sugar baby if a relationship developed, but its counterproductive to require a commitment without the interview process of meeting in person for coffees, lunch, dinner, etc.). I think it is even appropriate for a Baby to ask about income level. This might be more well received if Baby himself offers discussion about what he expects to be able to commit to a relationship, in time, activity, romance, feelings, and future.

    Why is this so? What motivates the Daddy in a Sugar Daddy Relationship?
    The daddy that throws you a couple hundred dollars for meeting right away – I doubt that will turn into anything (other than an escort situation). That requires no feelings and does not provide what an actual sugar daddy is looking for. A sugar daddy is motivated by a mutual relationship and feelings. If it weren’t feelings, then why would a daddy give money (it must be either feelings, romance, physical relationship, etc.). It’s certainly not the satisfaction of just giving money to a random stranger.
    It’s alright to discuss before meeting, what Daddy can foresee as a feasible allowance if a sugar daddy relationship developed. But a baby would benefit most from agreeing to meet for coffee, lunch, dinner, first, before expecting a commitment. That is how you find an actual sugar daddy relationship.

    Unrealistic Reach Is Preventing Babies From Finding An Actual Sugar Daddy
    Many babies on SA have selected on their profile, financial “Lifestyle” requirement levels that are unrealistic for gay sugar daddy relationships.
    For example, “High” is $10,000 per month. Keep in mind, gay Daddies are being contacted by numerous babies. Even for example, babies in third world countries, and those saying they just need some help with expenses, yet selecting the “moderate,” “substantial”, “high” requirement. This makes no sense. They are requiring a daddy provide them with $10,000 per month. Indeed, they are stating a requirement for daddies who make more than a million dollars per year. Let’s be honest, a daddy is unlikely to contribute more than 10% of the daddy’s monthly income to a Baby. Obviously, if it were a closer dating relationship situation it could be different. Yet how could such a relationship ever start, without meeting. Most gay Babies are not successful in finding a gay Daddy because they demand commitment of money, or have in their profile an unrealistic requirement, before even meeting.
    Finally, at least outside of “New York or Hollywood,” I don’t see a gay daddy in average city USA, that is going to commit to giving several thousand dollars a month. It doesn’t make economic sense when considering the income level of even successful wealthy working professionals. For a Daddy to commit to, for example, a “Practical” level, even if you assume a daddy is going to give you 10% of his monthly income; means you are only looking for daddies who earn at least $30,000 a month. And you are saying you would not be in a sugar daddy relationship if daddy only gave you $500, $1,000, or $2,000 per month? Ask yourself, are you expecting to find a gay sugar daddy who earns $30,000 a month. By requiring an unrealistic income requirement in your profile, babies are precluding nearly all Daddies who may be serious about a sugar daddy relationship. Given this, anything listed on a profile other than, “negotiable,” is probably counter-productive to finding a potential actual gay Daddy.

  4. samuel says:

    am looking for gay SD

  5. samuel says:

    Please am looking for a good sugar daddy

  6. Dylan69 says:

    i always wonder what other SB profiles look like and what they say on there info lol

  7. Raven M89 says:

    I would like to ask what people think of My profile, I am new to this, never had a SD but as far as longer term relationships go, this could be my kind of site. feedback please?

  8. Eric Bordan says:

    Useful tips for becoming a sugardaddy. I personally like using analtoys during the times when he’s not there, that’s a useful tip in my opinion. Instead of going to some other guys and cheating on him, it’s better to please yourself. :-) Just my two cents. 😉

  9. DCdapperboy says:

    Well I’m going to jump on in here! I’ve learned a lot about this site since about 2012-2013, and what I’ve learned on the gay end of things, is well disturbing and troubling. About 80-90% are using this site so they DO NOT have to pay a professional at their going rates. This IS an easier and cheaper way, while masquerading as a sugar daddy. The sad fact is there are faces that have been here for YEARS, yet the sugar bowl is in their favor 8-1, and they can’t find a suitable sugar baby years later ? BS! I’ve met several guys on here. I believe one showed me he was real, the rest were anything but in person. One breezed into DC here and decided he was going to play up wanting a relationship to have a touring companion for museums, then writes back after spending all day with the claim of no chemistry, but there certainly was enough to spend the night… Didn’t ask for a dime! I decided to see if he was going to be an actual gentleman. It’s so EASY to put a profile on here and write that you’re a wealthy affluent person, when it’s not the truth. One guy on here masqueraded as a billionaire tied to the Rolex foundation, and lured in a dozen younger guys, including myself, which I uncovered a criminal catfish going back to late 90’s embedded deep in social media…eat your heart out Nev Schulman, you don’t have a story like this one. What you think are gentleman, are only players with one thing on their mind and then it’s off to the next boy. And don’t let me forget about the picture collectors and Skype creeps, it’s never enough for them. So I have yet to meet any substantial gentleman on here. The ladies have a leg up on this, compared to the males. A lot of hypocrisy involving the gay sugar baby side of the equation. It’s very sad, because I’m one the true “kept” guys and it was more than sugar, it was a true relationship. Classic kept relationships are rare from what I lived. And I was told time and again, any serious true sugar daddy worth his salt doesn’t want their baby being employed for the sake of it…again hypocrites!

    • GAlexF says:

      I salute you, fellow gay SB and apparent veteran. I only had one SD ONCE and it was a houseboy/daddy thing. And the minute I got sick, FROM A COLD BECAUSE I MOVED IN DURING A BLIZZARD BECAUSE HE WAS DEMANDING, he decided he didn’t like the human side of me and worked me to death, treated me like garbage, and then tried to kick me out one week after I moved in. He made me blow him while I still had a sore throat and that really made it hard to get better. I will never forget how he treated me. The rage and the heartbreak was excruciating. If I EVER see him again, I will drag him to the nearest alley and slit his fucking throat with my bare fingernails. I swear to HELL BELOW I will never forgive him for what he did to me.

      • DCdapperboy says:

        GAlexF,

        OMG I’m so sorry for you!! Yes I’ve gotten the impression the dads have figured out low cost slave labor as a ploy to looking for a relationship or “houseboy” (RED FLAG warning to follow for other male SB’s). I’ve even had several offer me this…. $15 an hr Um NO! I’m looking for a partner where financial isn’t issue between a real connection and chemistry, and that means they PROVIDE just like a husband provides for a wife. And this whole bullshit about gay marriage has got under my skin, when we have these gay guys supposedly financially well off, yet they make employment or going to college as a requisite to begin anything, yet many of them want the same fucking recognition as the heterosexual roles have. Can anyone see the clear contradiction ?? So what gives why the male domestic is expected to work, but if a female domestic doesn’t have to work, it’s accepted as normal.

    • Caomhin says:

      I can cook, clean, iron shirts, keep a garden, fantastic with children, good with pets too, well read and more than able to play your fiddle. But I ain’t sucking toes.

      I lost my virginity but not my innocence – or wit.

      I’m a rather mature wain. What we Celts call our babes.

      Decent, honest, caring, heart of gold – and yours or anybody’s – for a doughnut.

      Chicken hunters need not apply as I certainly will not tear in the plucking.

      Say “hello”. May be too sweet to be wholesome but offer some nutrtional value.

      Forever or…

      a day.

      Faithfully

      Forty Shades

  10. Tuna says:

    I am new here. Frankly I expect to meet with a lady with elegance and dream natural breasts. I long delayed this desire of mine. Any suggestion? How should I announce this?

    Thnk you in advance !

  11. lunarosalinda says:

    my perfect live is , meet sugar daddy with mature man,who we can (respect,caring and loving) eachother…..xxx

  12. Ace3 says:

    I know it’s a small market out there, but I may also be doing something wrong. Is my profile okay to even warrant a response from some of the sugar daddies out there? Any advice would be much appreciated.

    • un_common says:

      your profile (i.e. “about me” & “what I’m looking for”) is not exciting enough. this is the tiny little box that you’re given to allow your personality to shine – your cunningness to show – and your sexyness to waft… this is where your sugar daddy breathes it all in like a fine perfume and is dying to know more. The point being, sass up your profile, let your proverbial skin show a little.

  13. walkingdeadfan says:

    been on this site for more than a year and had absolutely no luck with meeting anyone. no one responds to my messages at all and no one messages me either -_- i guess there’s just no luck for gay sugarbabies using this site -_- i mean, i can’t possibly be that ugly 😛

    • elaine says:

      I am afraid it is such a small market…. :-(

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      You are a cute guy…great smile, nice physique. I do think that your pictures and profile content are a bit adolescent…more suitable, perhaps, for traditional dating site or hookup site, maybe. I think a good place to start is deciding why you want a sugar relationship (some, unfortunately, are driven by motivations that sometimes prove detrimental…greed, quick cash, materialism, desperation etc). Hopefully, your reasons and approach are aligned with good intentions and outcomes for both parties. Next, think about the type of man youd like to attract, and invest in developing yourself accordingly (your interests, demeanor, diverse experiences, communication style etc) to attract him. Refine these attributes until they become genuine and natural qualities…faking it ’til you make it will only get you so far. Be patient but deliberate in the tone you set, and potentials you engage.

      Not sure that there are many active forums for gay sugar, but here are some I posted earlier.

      [https://www.seekingarrangement.com/blog/blog/2016/02/05/top-tips-gay-sugar-daddies/#comment-477768]

      While gay sugar babies do represent just a small percentage of members here, I do think that there are potential male suitors for gay sugar babies, as well as gay sugar babies who’ve had success. Unfortunately, the SA blog is not a very welcoming or supportive place for them to share their experiences.

      Best to all in pursuit.

      • walkingdeadfan says:

        to be 100% honest, im really not demanding that much (or atleast I guess im not) I honestly just want a man to share his home and life with me. A guy who wants to travel the USA with me too (im not looking for abroad vactions but i dont mind them). and a guy who’ll eventually move me in with him to Florida or the carolinas or any other place thats warm and sunny with palm trees in the USA (besides California because it’s too dry, dead, and overrated but i definitely wouldnt mind it at all if he wanted us to live there instead) He wouldn’t even have to be rich either, we could live in a trailer park for all i care, as long as he has internet so i can still make my youtube videos.

        it kinda brings me down a bit because i would have feelings for him. and i dont go out or party at all either. i’d be his stay at home house boy.

    • Anonymous says:

      It is not a small market. It’s a sad fact for women, but half the blog and half of the SD sites are filled with gay and no men. Every other man at a gas pump is gay. Otherwise, the men on the blog would respect and be kind to women instead of complaining that they are being “princesses”. Only gay men talk like the men here. These people are so in the closet that you might as well call them a coat hanger. Hang in there.

    • Anonymous says:

      Walkingdeadfan,

      The fact is you will have contend with a lot of older guys who are players, who want cheap sex and say what they want for you to give it up, then they will say there’s no chemistry and be back on the site, to find the NEXT pigeon to play for sex. The usual suspects have been here for well over 4 years now, and they will make new profiles. None of them will tangle with me, cause it didn’t take me long to figure out the motive behind most. I’ve tried many times not to judge a book by it’s cover, but this is where you have to. If they don’t look and fit, they’re more than likely just posing to fool younger guys. THIS SITE is the rudest of them all, which makes me have further reservations about the validity of the members here. All and all it’s a site for gay/bi/closeted to find a young boy, fool them into sexual activities, and maybe pass 20 or 40 bucks to them on the way out, and then it’s BACK to this site to find another. They all know it’s a large pool of chickens here, so best selection and cheaper than streetwalkers!

    • Devoland says:

      I think a lot of it has to do with specific preferences related to fantasy. I always say: “there’s something for everyone.”

  14. yougottabekiddingme says:

    Virgin blog, Party People :)

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  15. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Frank

    Of course it is an arbitrary change, but in political rhetoric it is always justified by “Rich should pay their fair share.”

  16. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Frank

    Ad Webster – as much as I see your point about definitions, it actually does not work that way. People use the words the way they want to and Webster editors later on catch up. So if there is enough couples referred to as SD/SB where the guy is not older, and despite not being rich he can provide allowance from his high cash flow, then the meaning of the word will develop and later on gets accepted to Webster.

    • Frank95 says:

      That’s true. But at the moment, it’s really only a few people here using that expanded definition. Further, there’s no agreement here either to that changed definition.

      The practical point though is that while the authorities tolerate the traditional SB/SD arrangements, they come down hard on escort/john transactions, and the authorities tend to think along the dictionary lines when looking at policy.

      So, while I see the commercial reasons why SA might move downscale, and define SB/SD more loosely, there are definite dangers.

  17. Anonymous says:

    Check out this subreddit:

    {{https://www. reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/}}

    • SugarD says:

      Interesting . There are a lot of blogs out there. In the end though ,I don’t worry about it . I have my budget in mind and I usually offer near the top of it . If the SB is aggressive about money I NEXT ! her . I seek girls who are appreciative of what I can afford. I don’t want to feel like she is settling .

      • Anonymous says:

        Most if not all will only settle. It’s the hypergamous nature of women. As soon as she spots a new higher and better POT she’s outta there.

      • SugarD says:

        True .But I have had pretty good success maintaining longer term babies . Who knows if they are riding the CC ,but I feel like the ones I pick are not overtly greedy and are glad to have the help .

        Moving into the Pro Sugar service involves a more intense leap down the morality ladder ,so they need to have that internal convo about being an escort vs. just a college girl who is getting a little help from a friend . If they need full support with room ,board ,and tuition + more they will need to escort/Sugar . I screen those out since you can tell from their Ask or the verbiage in their profile. Here’s an example :a teenager skinny little white girl.
        ” I want lots of money so I can take care of those I love and myself ” Your money your rules. I require pretty things ” . She’s not even in college and I predict will ride the CC at $150 /Pop X 10. She won’t find a Daddy who will pay her Ask,so she will have to use a multiplier . She’s cute ,but I won’t even approach her .

      • SugarD says:

        Substantial -I forgot to add.

      • Anonymous says:

        If they need full support with room ,board ,and tuition + more they will need to escort/Sugar

        Not true, at least from my perspective. Most arrangements cater either to tuition or rent/mortgage payments. Escorting and sugar shouldn’t be placed on the same scale, one is a bit risky and requires a totally different mindset. You don’t need to be an escort to sugar. Most SB’s here are happy to accept what they are looking for in terms of support and allowances from one guy, as long as he can cover most of her expectations. Most also don’t want to have multiple SD’s as it’s not practical. Women want security and commitment from only one guy, and sugar is not different.

      • SugarD says:

        @Anonymous ” as long as he can cover most of her expectations.”

        I basically agree with you . That is what I’ve found. But there in lies the rub .If her expectations are high ,a certain type of girl will resort to escort sugaring if not provided by a single payer . I .like you ,find girls who are not into the CC ride by nature and do not want to think of themselves as escorts . They will accept one SD who makes her life at least a little easier . I avoid the ones who seem greedy on the surface of it .

      • Anonymous says:

        If her expectations are high ,a certain type of girl will resort to escort sugaring if not provided by a single payer

        On the contrary, I have found those who have a set budget on their mind and won’t budge from it. I think it’s a great trait standing your ground and I have seen that if they don’t get what they’re looking for, they will most likely skip sugaring and shut down their profiles altogether, rather than go into escorting.

      • Anonymous says:

        My SB gets $1500 a month. On her profile, she had listed her expectation as High. When I asked her about it, she said over a $1000 a month seemed high to me.

        Bottom line — most of the SBs, especially newer ones, don’t bother to look at the financial guides that SA provides with the limits.

      • Anonymous says:

        Anon above can yiu elaborate more on how you got to contact her as she was listed as high and you had a diff expectations range in mind, or maybe you could have paid high but she shot it down.

      • Anonymous says:

        My profile listed my allowance as practical. I contacted her. We exchanged some messages, we texted, we met, we discussed allowance. She never read what the allowance ranges meant.

      • Anonymous says:

        What made you contact someone with a much different expectations range than yours?

      • Anonymous says:

        Applause to Anonymous @

      • Anonymous says:

        @ 10:33 am. Thank you for understanding your market base.

  18. Anonymous says:

    33? More like 40.

    ebfa71841

  19. Fundude says:

    @Kwown Aim

    Fundude is NOT into fat entitled bitches of ANY age.

    I though that has been clearly iterated by myself approximately 1000X on this blog.

    Apparently, my work hasn’t been done!

    Im surprised I have to keep saying this lol

  20. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Rem and Frank

    The discussion about definitions is interesting. Too bad the US government did not read it. A 40 y/oguy with less than a million in assets but income of 800k a year is considered rich by IRS and taxed accordingly. And I would also venture to say that he can easily afford to be a SD. For that matter very easily if he has 25 years of working career ahead of him. On the other hand a freshly retired guy who took lump sum retirement package might be technically a multimillionaire, but his cash flow will be stretched by adding a SB.

  21. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Diligent

    It is absolutely ok to have differences of opinion. I actually welcome them and disagreements do not make people trolls. What makes people trolls are comments like yours from yesterday at 5.22, you know nothing about your opponent’s financial situation, but you comment on it in rather negative way.

    • Diligent says:

      So now you’re trying the good guy tactic haha. That’s not going to work here. Anybody who wants to can go down and see the guy pulled out the insults before I did. You keep insighting various arguments because you know your position isn’t solid. That’s ok. But you can go do it alone. This is wasting my time.

      Broke guys don’t belong on this site. It ends there.
      Have a good life, goodbye.

  22. rembodler says:

    Frankie, I just asked my SB to check your profile…Sorry.
    U r making just a bit over what I am making…forgive me for saying that.
    And I consider myself hopelessly a middle class and poor as a church mouse. Maybe in Australia you are a rich man?
    In the US a man making about 200,000 is…well, doing OK. Not stellar, but Ok.
    Please, do not act like you are a millionaire…and none other belong here?
    U appear a bit, shall I say…ridiculose?
    Just saying…;-))).

    • Frank95 says:

      Rem,

      Go argue with Webster if you think their definition of Sugar Daddy is wrong.

      Now, funnily enough, I have suggested previously that SDs be prepared to substantiate their financial ability to sustain a sugar relationship. You pooh poohed that suggestion. So, I am happy to put my money where my mouth is for genuine SBs. Are you?

      You quite correctly point out that income alone doesn’t mean that someone is wealthy.

      So, you might send your lady friend back for a look. She missed the net worth amount. Which omission makes your conclusion suspect. (Putting it delicately).

    • rembodler says:

      Frankie, I will tell you the “hole” truth: I saved nowhere near as much as you. But, honestly, I do not see the difference SA-wise. All that matters to a lady-friend, is your current cash flow. She does not care whether one will have a cushy retirement (like you) or will live off the state when old and senile (like me). All she cares is right now. So net worth…I am not so sure is relevant.

      • Anonymous says:

        I am not sure where your point is Rem. I thought the point here was whether people who aren’t millionaires can afford a SB.

      • rembodler says:

        My point is, they can…:)).

      • Frank95 says:

        The difference is that according to the definition you ain’t a SD. Call youself something else. Make up a new term if you don’t like “john”.

      • rembodler says:

        Frankie, Frankie…
        So why apply your Webster rules only to people you do not like (like poor @Rem here)?
        Why didn’t you tell your buddy Vixen she has no business being here? According to the same Webster definition…;))?

      • KnownAim says:

        Too true, the SD/SB thingy has a max shelf life of two years. One could hope to realise something out of the net worth figure after a couple of years of marriage perhaps, but very rarely an arrangement results in a good substantial parting gift.

  23. yougottabekiddingme says:

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    • Devoland says:

      Thanks for sharing. As much as I enjoy a nice round of uncomfortable conversation – for me personally I prefer it over a nice 3 course dinner and wine with intuition and physical gestures. The whole online anonymity thing doesn’t really do it for me. #toeachitsown

  24. Anonymous says:

    We need a new page. Not that there’s anything wrong with being a gay. More power to the gay people. But leaving a homosexual page on, on a largely heterosexual website has gone on for way too long. Gay people should congregate here, exchange numbers and have fun.

    • TVC 15 says:

      Nobody cares anymore who’s gay or who’s not. That’s one of the best things about the modern world.

    • Diligent says:

      They’ve left shit up longer than this and nobody complained except for the fact it slowed peoples load time down. Stop living in 1952. Most gays are out of the closet and just average normal everyday people who surround you haha. Live with it.

  25. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Diligent

    Actually Anonymous was absolutely right, total assets and being a SD are to large extent not correlating. But even more importantly Rem was right, troll is gonna troll.

  26. rembodler says:

    I do not think this site only houses “broke guys and fat women”. Only a miserable depressed troll who never had any serious SA arrangements would seriously believe that.
    I do think, however, that troll probably belongs to one of the above mentioned categories.

    • Diligent says:

      I would prefer to belong to either category rather than to your category “Insecure John”, so be it. We agree to disagree. We don’t like each other. Have a nice day.

      • rembodler says:

        Hahaha…John or not, I am pretty secure, buddy.
        You, on the other hand, need some serious help. I suggest diet and exercise first, and finding the job, second.
        Then come here and we will disagree…

      • Diligent says:

        So besides being insecure and depressed which you already told the blog a few days ago, your problems are being overweight and unemployed. Damn that all really sucks but thanks for going into detail. It gives some insight into why you treat people the way you do on here.

      • rembodler says:

        Diligent – u are in need of some serious help.
        Sorry, you cannot afford my services… but the Health Department might be able to step in.
        Good luck!

      • Diligent says:

        And one last ditch attempt. Like a dying battery haha. Rem you lost this before you even started it and you know that so now it’s on to harrass Frank I see. You’ll never make it with him either. He’s too saavy for you too.

  27. Anonymous says:

    This subject was about gay sugar daddies. Why are 90% of the responses here about girls and vaginas?

  28. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Diligent

    Actually one does not need to be a multimillionaire to be a SD. But supposed you are right, then it would be good to remember that multimillionaires are about the top percentile in the male population. So the pot SBs should also be the top percentile in desirability of female population. Sadly that is not the case.

    • Diligent says:

      Right and that’s why we’re a site filled with broke guys and fat women.

    • Frank95 says:

      Well, a million invested might yield $40k per year. That’s hardly a lot. Three million giving $120k per year is getting there.

      So, let’s call $3m the lower end of wealthy.

      According to Webster: : a rich, older man who gives money, gifts, etc., to someone (such as a young woman) in exchange for sex, friendship, etc.”

      By definition, unless someone has more than a few millions, he doesn’t fit the definition of a SD. Our opinions don’t count. The fact is that unless a person has those sorts of figures, they ain’t no sugar daddy. Don’t like it? Go argue with the nice people at Webster.

      Of course, nobody is stopping anybody calling themselves the Queen of England if they want. It’s just that reality stops outside their heads.

      • Anonymous says:

        im sorry frank what you said here makes no sense i know the numbers you used are for example only but on 3m you earn 120k do you not have to live off of that how much is left over to pay a generous allowance to SB according to SA the average sugar daddy makes 250k a year so to match that you would need 6.5m useing your numbers again to match that income how many people have that much on this site when i think of a SD i think of a millionare but allowances are not paid out of net worth they are paid out of income so maybe someone does not not need that much to be a sugar daddy just a thought please fill me in if i missed anything its late here so maybe i did miss something

      • Frank95 says:

        Simple anon, as you guessed I was giving an example of what I though might be an example of “rich”. “Rich” is part of the Webster definition of a SD. If a guy isn’t rich, he isn’t a SD. That’s the definition.

        So, what do you think “rich” means?

        Or do we need to get a dictionary for that too?

      • Anonymous says:

        thanks for the insult i know what the definition of rich is but it seems SA hasn’t read your webster definition of rich i was just pointing out in your example those millions you have don’t generate enough income to pay a sugar baby a generous allowance so how are you better than someone earning a good income in the end of the day the sugar baby doesn’t care how much your worth she only cares if you can pay a allowance

      • Frank95 says:

        Why are you arguing and getting upset with me anon @ 12.12?

        It’s the people at Webster who made the definition.

        Why do people feel the need to shoot the messenger, just becsuse they don’t like the news?

      • Diligent says:

        All the broke “SD”s are going to jump you with anonymous nicks now Frank. Don’t even have the balls to use their usual nicks on here. See because they take all this personally, knowing their broke. So they get emotional about it haha.

        Good luck to you anyway
        Cheers

      • Anonymous says:

        frank i wasn’t angry at the definition of a sugar daddy it was you implying i didn’t know what rich is i do know very well what rich is i agree the term sugar daddy is loosly used here and shouldn’t be used here because they are not truly rich but its a term SA uses and its a different term than the one webster uses i was just pointing out in your example that 1 to 3m while that is a nice nest egg it is not rich it doesn’t generate enough income to provide a generous allowances if you want to call your self rich because you have a million dollars go ahead but i fail to see how anyone can say they are rich with a income of a 120k per year

      • Anonymous says:

        dilligent im not hiding behind a anon i had a name on this site and someone stole it so i see no purpose in having a name when any idiot can come here and take it i wasn’t attacking frank he posts some useful comments on here but i questioned his example and i failed to get a reasonable answer on how that is rich

      • Anonymous says:

        Are you noname by any chance? If so your female counterpart is n0name, with a zero on the moniker. If you want to be irreplaceable however then pick a new moniker, not just noname and get an avatar that’s unique.

      • Frank95 says:

        Anonymous @ 11.00am

        I think we are agreeing a lot. The point I made way back, and you point to here, is that SA is using the term in the way that I point out is wrong. The upshot, as many others have pointed out in other discussions, is that there are now lots of hookers and johns here calling themselves SB/SD. This makes it harder for genuine SB/SD, but also at some stage is likely to attract the attention of the authorities.

      • Anonymous says:

        frank thank you now we seem to have found some common ground yes i agree they’re lots of hookers on the site and men who act like johns nether should call themselves sugar babies or sugar daddies but a legit sugar daddy will find someone and enter a arrangement then he will let his membership slide because he doesn’t need it but a john will always have his membership active because hes in a constant hunt for new girls its this kind of person that this site depends on to pay the bills so i don’t see whats going to change as long as this business model is used

  29. walkingdeadfan says:

    I’m still kinda mad that I’m not getting any luck with this site at all. I’m not demanding anything at all… >:(

    • Fundude says:

      Why would some gay dude pay your ass for dick?

      Gay guys fuck each other in the asses for free CONSTANTLY.

      Why would they pay for something that is abundant and free?

      • Anonymous says:

        asses and dicks are available all over and ready to pay instead of paying so ….change ur profile to zero expectation 0000000

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Never get tired of being ignorant and stupid do you….

      • TVC 15 says:

        The funniest part is that he’s clearly proud of himself

      • elaine says:

        Why do I get this vision of a little boy shouting :”Poop!”, gniffling and looking around proud, making sure everybody has heard him and saw how brave he was to shout out such a naughty word.

        Most normal boy’s grow over this kind of behaviour around age 6 though…

      • Devoland says:

        Like I always say: “There’s something for everyone” – and there are valid and sometimes psychological reasons for people to want to engage in certain behaviors that can be based upon sexual desire. There are some guys out there who harbor no expectations and genuinely just want to assume the parental, helpful role (hence the moniker) and there are others that need an object of affection and nothing more. I think that’s a pretty accurate gamut – with and infinite amount of possibilities falling in between.

    • SweetYoungNatalia says:

      Don’t give up! I’m sure you will find your special guy!

    • Fundude says:

      @Feminist bloggers

      I lived in NYC for some time.

      I am very confident in my assessment. I was friends with plenty of gay dudes.

      There was no shortage of sexual action.

  30. SweetYoungNatalia says:

    Broaden your horizons! That’s a good motto.

  31. Victoria says:

    Hi!
    I have my very first meeting for a chat tomorrow and I feel really nervous. I think my profile tells exactly what I am looking for but I want to make sure I am managing expectations more than ok here… could anyone have a look at my profile and give some tips for first-timers like me? I don’t want to get cold feet…
    Many thanks

  32. Sugar Baby says:

    i am african with huge cock and am bisexual, anyone cool can chat me up… 😉

  33. FedUpAnon says:

    You do realise that e4f966741 has a massivee bulge underneath her breasts.
    Anyway the hot one requires an advance, I am not risking being scammed.

  34. Anonymous says:

    I recently went back to SA. Things certainly changed. There are a lot more “clickers”. They just read your messages and do not even check you out. Before almost everybody will check out the profile.
    Also, a lot fewer of them now write back. Again, before most will write back, to figure out what the deal is. Now they maybe go to your profile and check it out, just to never write back. Most only check it out once every three days or so.

    • Blogger says:

      That’s because there are a slew of young guys here so the girls are getting shitloads of mail now. It’s like a regular dating site now where you’re mostly ignored unless you have the looks.

      • Anonymous says:

        I know that has been prevailing thought. However, when I log in with my fake female profile, I do not see that new young crop of handsome young guys you are talking about. Unless they are all LD and offer to fly local girls out.

      • Anonymous says:

        thats true they dont wanna check you out. well am a huge top for any sugar daddy or mummy am bisex

      • Blogger says:

        I didn’t say they were handsome. I just said they were younger.

    • rembodler says:

      I think the amount of chicks increased, but the ones that are serious about it, their number is about the same. I also think there are a lot more platonics and delusional (not obvious, with Substantial in the profile, but the ones “know my worth” types, who expect anyone daring to text her be a multimillionaire.
      Just keep up the good work, the fish is still there.

      • Diligent says:

        If you’re not a multimillionaire, you have no business as a SD/SM. That’s the same kind of insanity that breeds the mentality of girls who expect to get paid for nothing. There’s no difference.

      • Anonymous says:

        Diligent. I hope u r joking, because otherwise u were either born an idiot or your mum dropped you one day and you fall on your head.
        If SA were to only serve multimillionaires, Mr.Wade would be living in his mother’s basement.

      • Frank95 says:

        I think the point is, anonymous, that the definition of SB/SD implies that one needs to be a millionaire to be one.

        SA is now getting into the escort/john demographic, and the escorts/johns are trying to call themselves SB/SD, perhaps to make themselves feel better.

        Just wait till the dictionary catches up, then it’s fine.

      • rembodler says:

        My guess – she was both born an idiot and got dropped on her head… To say anything that retarded.

      • rembodler says:

        Frank, I do not think you are on the Board of SA… If you are, maybe make tax returns mandatory for SDs to sign up?
        Mr. Wade will be so pleased with your suggestion…

      • Diligent says:

        Anonymous must be another broke guy trying to pass as rich on here since it looks like I hit a nerve there.

      • Frank95 says:

        You missed the point rem.

        Words have meanings. At the moment, according to Webster:A sugar daddy is “… a rich, older man who gives money, gifts, etc., to someone (such as a young woman) in exchange for sex, friendship, etc…”

        If you have a problem with any of that, go talk nicely with the people at Webster.

        However, till that time, young guys who aren’t rich looking for cheap pussy aren’t Sugar Daddies, and the women they have sex with for peanuts are not Sugar Babies. You’re entitled to your opinion, you aren’t entitled to make up facts.

        Using words that mean one thing to describe something else, well wheelbarrows in June tempt my navel, but not much Autumn. See, it makes it so much easier if one doesn’t have to be bound by silly conventions such as assigning meanings to words.

  35. amazing me says:

    there’s a reason for this being called ‘Top’ Tips for Gay Sugar Daddies
    right bottoms? Funbottoms

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      The more you taunt Fundude with your ignorant homophobic attempts at humor, the more he will respond with ignorant rants of his own.

      Wanna keep an idiot busy?

      Re-read this post.

      The first-place prize for biggest idiot, by the way, is a gold-plated trophy from the national women’s bowling league of 1974.

      May the best idiot win.

      • Frank95 says:

        FD/FB observably, supplies ignorant rants without any provocation. I don’t think there’s any correlation between his rants and anything posted here. That’s not how bullies operate.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        You dont think there is any correlation between homophobic shaming language and FD’s feminist rants?

        Surely he rants on his own, but probing doesnt help matters.

        Actually find Amazing Me’s comments quite disrespectful and offensive. No less so than someone going to the Brown Sugar blog, and calling someone a nigger lover. No typo.

        Carry on as you will.

      • Frank95 says:

        I was making the point that bullies will act that way independent of any action by others. While they may use the actions of others as their excuse, “I hit her because the house was dirty yer honour”, bullies are not deterred in the least by non provocation.

        Having said that, not responding to them is the best policy. However, discussing them and the phenomenon of bullying in the third person IS quite helpful to victims.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Two bullies spar using hate speech and group-specific shaming language as weapons…

        The victims are those whose voices arent heard because theyve been indirectly shamed back into the closet.

        straight-talk

      • Frank95 says:

        I am more concerned when the attacks are on the likes of DamnVixen. I get even more concerned when others pile on as well, rather than provide support. I agree that using hate speech is wrong, but it’s not the point I’m about.

      • Diligent says:

        You’re better off talking to FD because when no one talks to him he whips out a billion aliases and fucks up everyone’s mind on the blog.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        “I am more concerned when the attacks are on the likes of DamnVixen. I get even more concerned when others pile on as well, rather than provide support. I agree that using hate speech is wrong, but it’s not the point I’m about.”

        What point are you about?
        What does Damn Vixen have to do with it?
        What does the point that youre about and Damn Vixen have to do with the comments to which I applied, if those comments are not the point that youre about?

      • Fundude says:

        Still yapping about my fantastic self?

        CUCKS gonna cuck

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Still walkin’ ’round with that wedgie?

        Unravel your breeches, and get a life.

        Cocks gonna block.

      • Fundude says:

        The shorts are too tight because of the large package underneath.

        Ergo, it would be unbecoming to change the design

      • Frank95 says:

        I think he left a dump in his diaper.

  36. Anonymous says:

    Latest wannabe SB with an entitlement attitude:

    {http://www.marketwatch.com/story/kanye-west-wants-a-1-billion-from-facebooks-mark-zuckerberg-2016-02-15?link=MW_home_latest_news}

  37. Stranded says:

    That music is old.

  38. rembodler says:

    I wish all our blogettes a great Valentine’s Day.
    Hope their boyfriends or SDs (real or imaginary) are having a great night ahead…;-)).

  39. flyR says:

    The article seems to have been written without any attempt to organize the analysis , discussion or conclusions.

  40. KnownAim says:

    FD is posting links for FB 😀 kinda fitting on a gay link ….

  41. elaine says:

    Yeahhh, c’mon let’s compare, cool!

    42 yo, negotiable, efed7966
    24 yo, substantial, e776432c

  42. Kitty says:

    I’m sure there are people who think she is attractive, and maybe she is a really nice person, but I think she is too old to be a sugar baby. That’s just my opinion. To be honest, and no offense to her, the 2nd one looks too fake and possibly a transgender.

  43. Fundude says:

    The old feminist bitches should stick with Barbara Streisand

  44. SouthernSB says:

    FedUpAnon:You can never compare a forty year old to a twenty year old as the most unattractive twenty year old is going to look much more attractive than the prettiest forty year old, because twenty years old are younger. If you are looking for twenty years old, look for them and stop berating forty years old. I don’t know why that older woman asked for a substantial allowance, maybe she doesn’t understand the concept of the site or she’s been listening to the hype. Maybe she’s the most attractive woman of all her basic little friends. I don’t know, but what I do know is I would hate it if any of you would come along and start picking apart my profile and my pictures. I have a thick skin, you have to in the bowl, but all this is getting to be too much. Give these women a break already, we get it, you don’t think that women who are over thirty should be in the bowl. But remember a man of seventy is twenty years older than a fifty year old. Just saying.

    • elaine says:

      @Southern

      “as the most unattractive twenty year old is going to look much more attractive than the prettiest forty year old”

      Are you kidding or did I just misunderstood you?

      There is beautiful 40yo and ugly 20yo. Beauty is not always automatically related to youth.
      Often? Yes!
      Always? No!

    • KnownAim says:

      Ha ha, you must be kidding, there are some very bloated teenagers around … who also have no clue generally …. but maybe that is precisely what the likes of FD are looking for ….. welcome to the courts dealing with the underage matters

    • Fundude says:

      @FD

      Fundude is NOT into fat entitled bitches of ANY age.

      I though that has been clearly iterated by myself approximately 1000X on this blog.

      Apparently, my work hasn’t been done!

    • amazing me says:

      you’re def so right again funbottoms
      you know what you want, sweet bottoms

    • FedUpAnon says:

      Then why do I have a crush on Sarah Rafferty?

  45. elaine says:

    How can someone who is NOT -nor has ever been!- an SD have “noticed increased delusion among the most unattractive women with attractive women being more reasonable.” ?

    Just wondering…. 😉

  46. Fundude says:

    LOL

    These comparisons show that you don’t get what you pay for.

    Plenty of hot women that are reasonable and plenty of unattractive/older/fat women who are delusional.

    I have noticed increased delusion among the most unattractive women with attractive women being more reasonable.

    Crazy times.

    • KnownAim says:

      Generally speaking, a bloke feels an itch in his pants = he is responsible to provide house, food, clothing, I am happy to modernise it a bit to include a good car and personal trainer. Really that is the only relevant measure. Plenty of women who are kind of old or fat are still on a good allowance from a family trust ….. just saying. No one in their right mind would be aspiring to less.

    • Fundude says:

      If those bitches are on an allowance from a “family trust”, why are their dumbasses on here?

    • KnownAim says:

      I do not know if they also double up on here, I just know they get trust allowances lol …. Those are a lot more common that you imagine :p

  47. Lawrence says:

    NYT is too liberal of a newspaper to trust anything they have to say about Islam.

  48. KnownAim says:

    make netanyahu seem ….

  49. KnownAim says:

    Rich enlightened muslims who buy each wife her own house are OK. Rapefugees though make seem Netanyahu a very reasonable man.

  50. KnownAim says:

    They are probs both pestered ad nauseum, and decided that guys should pay for harassment. The one who would look after animals could be a really good option for geriatrics on a budget 😉

  51. PadawanSD says:

    I am a Padawan SD (i.e., green). I would like to hear from Jedi Master SDs about their stories of being scammed and rinsed so I can upgrade from Padawan to Jedi Master. I am sure the Master Jedi SDs got rinsed and scammed early on. I would like to learn from them.

    Thank you!

  52. Anonymous says:

    Happy Valentine’s Day. ?????
    How are you all spending this day? I know how I am ???

  53. FedUpAnon says:

    Profile of the day:

    About Me

    Young blonde girl looking for sugar daddies to send me money and gifts! NO DATING NO MEETING NOTHING SEXUAL

    What I’m looking for

    NO MEETING NO SEXUAL TALK NO DATING JUST GIFTS and COMPANIONSHIP!

  54. amazing me says:

    mmmmm
    if i could just order up that “Sears” bad boy we could be in nevaeh
    hey there bottoms…

  55. elaine says:

    The hypocrisy of -non in the sugarbowl participating- men, who clearly aren’t considered SDs complaining about quality of women on this website is beyond amazing lol

  56. Fundude says:

    Is it me or is the quality of the women on this website in the shitter?

    There are tons of women I wouldn’t date for FREE (95%+) on this website demanding higher allowances.

    Am I crazy that the delusion appears dramatic on here?

    Thank God Im dating someone. I feel sorry for the SD brahs on here!

    • Fundude says:

      Also, I think the myth about the “nicer” or “more attractive” MidWest girl can be put to rest after checking out the profiles on here.

      I love this website though for its sociological/economic theory value.

    • Anonymous says:

      yep gone down hill big time

    • Anonymous says:

      Why do you care then?
      Most men aren’t looking to date here, they come to get away from that. I am sure the younger SD’s could date easily if they wanted to.

    • KnownAim says:

      There are even shorter and fatter SD brahs (who are also super ugly) but with a bigger wallet, which is what matters lol …. ’tis not about procreating the best genes, you know ….. although …. ability to amass a good size well stocked wallet ….. could well be something to consider as far as the gene pool goes these days

  57. Fundude says:

    @Angry Blog Feminists

    Why aren’t you taking orders from the leader of the feminist SBs on this blog, the mighty and logical TVC?

    Surely, you should ignore me due to being a “troll”.

    Now carry on ladies. TVC has spoken!

    • KnownAim says:

      You are a touch deluded. Surely feminists would be busy sucking up to Bi Clinton woman who had her own “small loan of a million dollars” unless it was an outright gift …. post feminist ladies however like the d*ck to take care of them without all the bullshit about “interviews” and crap …. there was nothing ever wrong with the old fashioned marriage contract – the guy has to publically sign up to provide house, food and clothing (to a good standard) before even being allowed to meet the lady without a chaperone. Happy to modernise it a bit to include a good car with fuel supply and a pony and tennis lessons :p

  58. elaine says:

    The hypocrisy of -non in the sugarbowl participating- men, who clearly aren’t considered SDs complaining about “old”, “fat”, “unattractive” sugar babies is beyond amazing lol

  59. Fundude says:

    @FB

    Someone has to be honest with these women.

    If there aren’t dudes like myself (or you), this place will become a bullshit TUMBLR blog whereby fat/unattractive/old “sugar babies” complain about “salt daddies” or men who “don’t make enough money to be sugar daddies”.

    The hypocrisy of older/fat/unattractive women who clearly aren’t considered “conventional” SBs complaining about “poor” sugar daddies is beyond amazing lol

  60. Anonymous says:

    All of the people that you allow to hurt you, creates chaos, and they influence your future with baggage. You take on their issues and scenarios and you carry their angst. Think back to the blogger who said “damaged people, damage people.” She intentionally knew tha she was depositing damage into other people’s lives, smuggling her issues to drive other people’s emotions that she encountered.

    Now, take a positive, responsible SB, that owns up to her responsibility in lif, that has a positive outlook on life because she decided. Essentially their past would remind them, but not decide them. Huge, huge, huge difference.

    Leverage the lessons of the past without lugging around the lessons of the past into your future. So self inspiring and I wish you all well. No more sunsets will come with me on the blog. I no longer gift this place a foothold/staging ground. ✈️ Taking off!

  61. Anonymous says:

    Oh yeah, I am all in this time. All in, to be MY biggest fan and there will be no more bread crumbs to leave. Dog me out as usual, call me out as usual, the enduring, encouraging, defending personality is gone. Now, you can victimize your readers as you see fit, on your own accord. You can no longer read what I write unless I decide what you have access to. So, let’s see what you got. If you want to be my lap dog, I will let you, for a nominal fee.

    It feels so good to finally be as egotistical as the rest of you.

  62. Anonymous says:

    What happened to leadership on and off the field? The kind that brought the speed of victory and unlimited respect based on competitive performance that drew crowds, not only on sportsmanship, mannerisms, but instincts to ones that carried valure.

  63. FatB'StardSA says:

    Glad to see that @FunDude is still a voice of reason who keeps the blog from becoming a delusion SB echo chamber.

    Have a nice day :-).

    • Anonymous says:

      So tired of the same limp dick men and commentators upon this space. Eat em up with Ebola and keep on trucking like a bone afied asset that is depreciating yourself because your heart is full of poison and fucking over as much as you fuck. Too bad all your SD’s can’t get together and find out what your position really is, like a mouthy politician who begs for a vote and then never fulfills a damn word. Take away fellas. This space is now yours to supremely tarnish every SB’s dream and Believe that there is no advice left. She is a lower grade version of baxkpage, unless she is not on your shit list and has made the grade to be a flawless model with impeccable f’ing you at a price. All the energy of caring what the hell Yout lowlife thinks, that shipped sailed 2 years ago. Sucks to not be able to write about it except on occasion. You could, if you were doing your job. Go find Lisa, Tanisha, lequesha, Mona Lisa, Sue-Eeza, your new tease-a, oh yeah, Goodbye Felisha. My embarrassing, sneeziah, I pass, and call amnesia. Where is the anesthesia?

    • Fundude says:

      Someone has to be honest with these women.

      If there aren’t dudes like myself (or you), this place will become a bullshit TUMBLR blog whereby fat/unattractive/old “sugar babies” complain about “salt daddies” or men who “don’t make enough money to be sugar daddies”.

      The hypocrisy of older/fat/unattractive women who clearly aren’t considered “conventional” SBs complaining about “poor” sugar daddies is beyond amazing lol

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @FunDude

        Even worse is the “age shaming” on the blog. Every post from the older (40+) SB’s is about how they find men like @Frank95 disgusting and could NEVER imagine having to sleep with a man(?) like him.

        How much abuse can @Frank95 take before he snaps?

      • Fundude says:

        @FB

        Frank is a weak fucking cuck. I hope they continue to shit on that cuck. His weakness and cuckhold status offends me.

      • Anonymous says:

        I a SB who has contribute to this blog in the past and I am far under 40 yrs old. Not all of your correspondents are over 40. Regardless, if they are, it is not a catastrophe knowing they are more in shape and take exceedingly good care of themselves, based on the current 18-25 year olds,
        That are as round as a basketball and proud of their gut. The ones that flaunt their obesity, and make no mistake that they expect you to compensate by going down on them as they avoid your cock, like the plague. And then expect the man to “do” all the work, while they lay there, because they are quite in-quote: “young and attractive”.

        I would certainly, based off of those statistics, find an in-shape, older woman that loves to give and receive, as I do and appreciate my time, effort, and sexual intricacies of adoration, versus this new age, spoiled shitless as lay there like a log, mentality.

  64. Anonymous says:

    question, I hear that there are sds with 50k income , don’t understand how they can participate in this , even if they are single, after taxes and rent and car and insurance not sure if there is money left for a sb. in ny I know that It is tough.

    • A Nonnymouse says:

      Simple, they aren’t SDs. They can’t be.

      They’re just ordinary guys looking for girlfriends, or freebies.

      These freebie seekers promise to pay, but never deliver. But really, if someone is so naive as to believe these guys will come up wth money, it’s sad, but what can you do?

      • Anonymous says:

        Sounds like the “under promise and over deliver” SD that is trying to make a point here. Funny, he is an action seeker that does exactly what he says is intolerable. Shame on the freebie seekers that you manipulate, for the fuck of it, and nothing more.

        What happened to “state what you will do, do it, and follow through and allowing all of your statements an actions supersede the expectations. What about? Over promise, over deliver, and be met exactly where your expections are, which is over stimulated and overly pleased in exceeding abundance.

        Maybe that’s too much to ask from a person like you who personafies below mediocre outcomes on the frontal lobe. It would be a shame if others didn’t suck up to you and honor your degrading stance. Have to keep those men on their toes by giving less, so you can skim the cream of the crop into your in box. All because the men were followers to your advice. Good play.

        Don’t forget that every great game comes to an end with a playoff game. More men should get in the game. You know, providing solutions and appreciating You people are so full of dung and delisoonal. That’s right, you denying her more income is no different than aan who is married and provides his SB a single wide trailer. How dare her greedy ass ask for a double wide while he provides Louis citron for his wife, Hermes and Chanel clothing.

        But, the Audacity of his SB asking for a double wide and her car payment should make her a cheap ass whore and a gold digger. Well, that right there would make me and anyone else certainly hit the pavement of SA and find a new SB that will appreciate me and All I do for her. There are some serious ungrateful women on this site for sure.

        More like, this site is seriously looted with cheap minded, cheap pocketed and ill intent men. May this year bring you all exactly what you sow for. May you reap only what you speak and what you give. If you are penny pinchers based on what you speak, then may your business suffer, may your dicks stay limp, may you not be given anything from a SB or any woman in public and may your wives divorce you and take everything you own bc your wives are foaming at the mouth wanting a sexually exciting an that spoils them and knows what their favorite color is. It is apparent that no one from this blog offers anything but that which is not desirable. And only our left over feces is what the blog men provide these days and have for years. You men are nothing more than a dollar menu meal at McDonald’s. No wonder you hog the blog day in and day out. The wealthy men that actually love women are living life while you guys grow wrinkles here. Lmao. accomplishments in others lives besides only yourself gratification, would give you an insurmountable amount of prospects.

        You know this already. You only provide what you have to and still sip on the froth, after you have long since stopped brewing and air bubbles are a sound of sucking the bottom out of ever cup.

        Give it some time of trial and error and the men will wake up because the women are going platonic for a reason. An unsolicited, un spoken Union, called “tired of your played out Shyit, unless you are fronting the bill”. And so this site states, a woman doesn’t have to ask, a man provides without asking. What happened? You fall off the turnip truck?

    • Anonymous says:

      They’re delusional.

    • Fundude says:

      Yeah its like those older and fat women claiming to be sugar babies.

      I don’t understand how they can participate in this.

      • Anonymous says:

        so right

      • Anonymous says:

        So says the SD who gets off on giving advice as a dignified SD representative who eggs men on to not pay, on a SD website of all places. As if SB’s are the IRS, under cover trying to collect his taxes.

        Says the man who has been raped by feminists and is bitter as hell that he is married to one. One, who pushes her agenda on him 24/7. Don’t forget, the man who posts his good picture, from his collage days. How ironic. I spelled your college intellect, just the way you like it. Smooches.

      • elaine says:

        @Anonymous

        Uhmmmm, he is NO SD.
        And never been, so he has no clue what he is talking about.
        Just don’t pay attention.

    • flyR says:

      $50K income SD ??

      Odds are not good but consider the possibility that he has vastly understated his income by intent or accident. $/month and it’s a pretty good prospect.

      • elaine says:

        @flyR

        Afraid not……

        More and more of these low income “SD” flood the site..
        And no, they are NOT underestimating, in some cases even OVER estimating their income!

        Result of SA marketing to make the site mainstream in their hunt for more and more members.
        They now proudly flaunt 5 million members.
        More then + 1 million new members in one year!

      • Anonymous says:

        flyR that could be happening but i think the bigger problem is this site wants to be main stream like a regular dating site so in stead of being a niche market for wealthy men anyone can come here at any income level on the flip side you have many ladies that are average looking or worst but still expecting substantial allowances when they they have no ideal what mutually beneficial means because of this it becomes much harder for the legit SD and SB to find each other we can whine all day about how salty sd are and how how out of touch sugar babies are but i don’t blame either one its SA marketing that is the cause of this problem so lets not fight among ourselves over this

      • KnownAim says:

        Running this site must be bringing good $$$$$ and entertainment ….. to the owner ….

      • flyR says:

        Elaine and Anon

        It just struck me that the site may be appealing to the pervs who just want to look at pictures and communicate. I don’t know – you would think that someone who was just here to pretend would at least lie about their income. Does not make sense….

  65. Anonymous says:

    Becauese, the ones wandering around in the desert lost, see a mirage. They do not know they are in the desert. Nor, did I at the time. I thought, boy howdy, he cares and this is a man who will treat me right, I am more than just a piece of meat. Had I known I was wandering around in a mirage, at the time, I would of caught a flight to the ocean, no doubt.

    Steve Harvey and many others have said it first and best. “A man will not treat a woman lesser than she allows him to.” That is the mirage. It depends on where your head is at, to know what is perfect for you. Wander around in the desert long enough, and you will taste the difference on what is real and what is fake.

    Some people get to experience the desert with a tour guide and know they are merely on a vacation and hence, know the difference.

    • TVC 15 says:

      Oh, sometimes a man will definitely treat a woman as lesser than without her permission. That’s the right time to make herself scarce.

      • Anonymous says:

        Heels in hand already, making a dash for it, in my sleek pencil dress! Lol

      • Fundude says:

        Sometimes a feminist bitch treats a man as his lesser without his permission.

        Thats the right time to become scare to her, especially with money.

      • Anonymous says:

        At least your finally being honest about your girlfriend. Good for you. Let it out.

  66. Anonymous 88 says:

    Hello, I’m new. I was wondering, for those who have had successful arrangements, How long do they normally last? Do many SDs & SBs have multiple arrangements? If so, are the allowances varied per person or do you set the same amount across the board? What are typical deal breakers (besides moving away, new relationship, etc?). When a Pot SD say they are ultimately looking for an FWB, it means he is looking for sex for free, right? What about Pots who say they are not willing to pay for sex? Why are they even on this site then?

    • problem is says:

      good grief!! another one who refuses to do their homework and asks for all the quiz answers!!

    • SD experience in numbers says:

      @Anonymous 88

      About type/length/allowance of sugar relationships, it varies quite a bit. I can only talk about my own experience, which does not seem to be the norm. My relationships last for more than 1 year, they are monogamous, and the allowance varies with needs and circumstances.

      As for FWB and not paying for sex, just ignore them and pursue others who provide the “sugar” component of the relationship.

      Good luck.

    • Anonymous says:

      Tell those pots it’s ok because you’re not a slut, you only do platonic.

    • TVC 15 says:

      Your question re why men who don’t want to pay are on this site is eternal, like their presence, and there will never be a satisfactory answer.

      • elaine says:

        Well, I think there is na very simple answer.

        They try their luck to get sex for free, as do their female counterparts who try to get money for free.

        No rocket science!

      • TVC 15 says:

        I understand that. What I don’t get is why they don’t go to the many, many sites where women ARE giving it away for free. In other words, if you want water, why would you go to the desert instead of the ocean?

      • elaine says:

        Because at those sites it is a reverse situation; very few real and attractive women and a lot of other men to compete with.

        So they try their luck here.

      • Crash says:

        Truth be known the women on match are a hell of a lot more attractive than the land whales who hang out here now. Women used to be pretty here but that’s old news.

      • elaine says:

        Well @Crash, maybe I have a very stupid question for you then….
        Why are YOU wasting your time here?!

      • Fundude says:

        Why are women who are platonic on this website?

        Why are women who are far too old to be sugar babies on this website?

        Why are women too fat to be sugar babies on this website?

        Its eternal like their presence.

      • Anonymous says:

        Why are women who are platonic on this website?

        Hello? That’s the point of the website, that’s what’s advertised not sex for money. Do you know how that sounds?

        Why are women who are far too old to be sugar babies on this website?
        Why are women too fat to be sugar babies on this website?

        I don’t know, probably looking for a niche market?

      • elaine says:

        Why are men who are NOT SDs commenting on this website? …

    • flyR says:

      Anon 88

      How long will the relationship last – 20 seconds to 20 years,

      FWB – no sugar

      Not looking for intimacy – just give me your money so I can spend it on my
      druggie boyfriend

      Multiple SDs – Yes on occasion

      Multiple SB’s – Yes on occasion

      Exclusive – Depends on the meaning of exclusive (yes there are exclusive relationships)

      My profile – It is a marketing document, not something to be thrown together late at night, speilcheck is your friend .

      Product Differentiation – Don’t try to appeal to everyone, pick a target market or do two profiles

      Basic principles – sugar normally begins when you are prepared to have sex with the selected SD . Prior to POF you and he should have an agreement on the important issues ….

      Don’t expect perfection in an imperfect world… but do learn from mistakes

      • Josh says:

        Product Differentiation – It’s all about salt…salt. Learn salt marketing from Morton. 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        Learn from Morton salt Co.

        Uh huh, sure thing. While all other product buyers are now purchasing sea salt, kosher salt, or have banned salt, leaving a no additional additive salt diet.

        Makes so much sense.

    • A Nonnymouse says:

      Successful arrangements are ones that suit the individuals concerned an d their circumstances, so “How long?” is hard to define. But months/years is typical.

      Some SB/SD have multiple arrangements, but at some number, “multiple arrangements” becomes “hooker and john”. I’d say the number is 2-3, but that’s just imo, and others would differ.

      Allowances might vary according to various criteria. If one was full on BDSM, and another was straight intimacy only, you’d expect different allowances.

      Deal breakers, that’s individual. Eg, different bedroom stuff, ability to converse intelligently afterwards, the list goes on…

      FWB, nope that’s not free. You both get a benefit. Him intimacy, you whatever it is you want out of the relationship. So, you ask what benefit you get out of it in return for giving him his benefit. Adding friendship to that is good. If you get no benefit, it’s not really FWB.

      If they aren’t willing to pay, don’t even waste time considering why they are on the site. You’ve already wasted too much time. Next him.

      • Anonymous says:

        FWB, nope that’s not free. You both get a benefit. Him intimacy, you whatever it is you want out of the relationship.

        This has to be the worst advice ever given.

      • TVC 15 says:

        It makes more sense when you add on the rest of the paragraph.

  67. Anonymous says:

    Thanks for giving the SB’s a bad reputation.

    {{https://www. instagram.com/p/BAXjTAUM2mz/}}

  68. Anonymous says:

    Any takers?

    ef81f27

  69. Fundude says:

    Good feminism video:

    {{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fAvm15ThV4}}

  70. rembodler says:

    The SD Song.

    I am gonna be flamed by our cynical resident blogettes, but I will say it anyway.
    Yes, women come here motivated by money. But deep down most of them do not want to admit it, even to themselves. So if you give them an excuse to like you, they will think of this (and not the money) as their primary motivation.

    There is nothing wrong with us. Yes, we are usually older. But we are intelligent, we have seen the world, we speak a few languages. We are confident in what we are. Unlike younger men, we are not afraid to poke fun at ourselves because our credentials, wealth and smarts protect us. We have been with a few women (oh, God…ok, more then a few). And yes, maybe we do not have these abs of steel anymore. But we are in good shape, we run in the mornings, we go to gym every day.

    And if you think just because you are so much younger – you are so much better…it is OK. We will wave you goodbye. We will move on. We have been rejected before, we know it is not a big deal. We wish you well. Very sincerely.
    We do.

    • Fundude says:

      Women love the dollar dollar.

      Them “bitches aint fooling nobody”

    • elaine says:

      @Rem

      “Yes, women come here motivated by money. But deep down most of them do not want to admit it, even to themselves. So if you give them an excuse to like you, they will think of this (and not the money) as their primary motivation.”

      Yes that is correct.
      And more or less the same point I was trying to make about the excuses SDs make up for theirselves for the same reason. Not wanting to admit it!

      What could be the reasons for SDs here, always talking down on young males as “Deadbeats”, “xbox players” etc. ?

      But it’s ok.
      Everybody with more then 2 braincells and a minimum of self-knowledge knows why we are all here.

      Though, a little less hypocrisy about our reasons would be refreshing for a change.

      • Anonymous says:

        elaine yes it would be nice if there was less hypocrisy about our reasons for being here but in many parts of the world this is still not accepted by society at large thus the deceptive wording to disguise the true purpose of why were here

      • elaine says:

        @Anonymous

        I don’t think the reasons for this hypocrisy lays in the outside world.
        If you don’t want anyone to know about your sugar life just keep it hidden and don’t talk about it with people around you.
        But c’mon, we are supposed to be adults, at least be honest to yourself.

        And this blog is anonymous, so no reason to hide your reasons.
        In fact for most it is the ONLY place where we can talk about our sugarlifes freely.

      • Anonymous says:

        elaine i wasn’t speaking for myself personally i just feel people are not comfotable speaking the truth how many shows are there where the ladies all claim they didn’t have sex with their sugar daddies or a older sugar daddy putting down a young male as a reason SB will want to date them instead were not on a anonymous blog im reading these comments through a search site but i agree with you that you should say it like it is and not sugar coat it

    • baby monkey says:

      “so if you give them an excuse to like you, they will think of this (and not the money) as their primary motivation” hahaha

      Yeah, that’s why THEY WON’T care your wealth boy, THEY JUST will want you as YOU ARE!

      older and naive, not a good mix

  71. SD experience in numbers says:

    SD life made easier

    Following up on the discussion of @flyr, @elaine, and others about “loser” boyfriends, there are two major factors that have helped SD’s in recent years:

    1. The rules of the dating game have swung all the way towards what guys want, and away from what girls aspire for. This nudged a lot of girls towards trying the sugar bowl, where they get tangible benefits and better experience.

    2. The prevalence of online dating, and notably hookup sites, has diminished the stigma of having profiles on websites that cater to tabooed activities.

    The main beneficiary of this has been the legitimate SD. It is unbelievable how easy it is to have a fantastic relationship with a quality SB less than half of one’s age. IMHO, this is by far the best mode of physical and emotional satisfaction for older men today.

    Two quick comments:

    – I agree with the consensus that everyone is motivated by their own desires, but sometimes these desires include an element of helping someone else, either as an ego boost or as a natural male tendency towards females.

    – As evidence for the higher acceptance of sugar relationships in general, almost all the girls I met in my recent search said they signed up for the site because one of their friends had success on it, whereas in my previous search the common answer was “I heard about it on Dr. Phil”.

    • TVC 15 says:

      +1

      SA was recommended to me by a friend.

    • Anonymous says:

      I already hate your friend.

    • elaine says:

      @Sdexp.

      “The rules of the dating game have swung all the way towards what guys want, and away from what girls aspire for.”

      I am living in another continent and another culture, this is absolutely not the case here.
      Probably that explains my different POV on the matter. :-)

      • SD experience in numbers says:

        Good to hear that. In the US, things have evolved to where the man has almost all the leverage in dating, and almost none of the leverage in marriage. No wonder…….

      • TVC 15 says:

        I’m not American, but “dating” is bullshit here too. That’s why I went sugar. And I think n0name is from a different country to both of us but I don’t doubt she’d agree.

      • n0name says:

        It depends on finding the right site. Getting odd dinners is really not hard, but I hate the expectation of the “no strings” crap as in FBW …. “soul mates” is yet another ruse. You really cannot trust the guys to do the marriage or volunteer arrangements. At least on this site it is spelled out.

    • SouthernSB says:

      Frankly I heard about it in my “Social Problems” class. It was actually written in the book. As soon as I got home from college I looked this and as many sites as I could, up. That was like three years ago. Sugarbabies are written about in every sociology book under either “deviant behavior” or “social problems.” I can’t figure out why Brandon has to do any advertisement at all, since his site is mentioned in every sociology book in the country.

  72. flyR says:

    Moderator – Please let us move to a new topic……… President’s day would be fine…….

  73. flyR says:

    elaine- I would never even pretend that I “am doing them a favor”

  74. Anonymous says:

    @nObrain – “call i what you like, if you are a gent you have to help a damsel in distress or just be a plain shit = up to you”

    Want to be treated like a lady, then act like one. Until then you are just another ho in a long conga line of ho’s.

    You don’t get it both ways, Feminism made us see women as equals. Enjoy.

    • TVC 15 says:

      Want to be treated like an SD? Act like one. Until then you’re just another wannabe in a long conga line of punters. :)

      • Anonymous says:

        +12

      • Anonymous says:

        Plus 12 is for TVC.

        I don’t think you are crazy and you have to realize that if your free target market is SB’s and paying memebers, pay for SB’s… There is a reason that no one is responding. IF men are not stepping up their game and giving their best, what in the world make you guys think the women need to give their best either? This is a street. And this street, is a two way street. If you continue to go down the same street and fall in the same pothole that knocks your car out of alignment and this street offers you nothing and is never fixed, then both the paying members and your free members say to themselves…”Hmm, lets break this habit and choose a new street to go down today”, considering 5 street’s can give me access to the one I need to be on.

      • Anonymous says:

        12 is @TVC’s dress size.

    • Anthony says:

      The bitterness wreaks

    • n0name says:

      Ok, pr*ck.

  75. Fundude says:

    IM MOTHERFUCKING TRIGGERED!!!!

    {{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6agT48Im2w}}}

  76. rembodler says:

    @Elaine
    All women are here because they want the money. However, if you did any “peer-reviewed “studies that show that being uninterested in their peers is not a factor at all in their decision to be on SA, would you kindly supply a reference to that publication?
    “…We all know most young girls are here for other reasons, NOT because they are tired of their peers.”

    • elaine says:

      @ Rem

      As soon as you tell me where exactly I did say:
      “being uninterested in their peers is not a factor at all in their decision to be on SA”

      Ok? :-)

  77. FedUpAnon says:

    Latest email:
    I’d say it could take 6minths to. A year to feel comfortable to be intimate x

    Not even worth replying to :-(

  78. elaine says:

    @flyR

    You know how I think about you and how I like your posts, but THIS is EXACTLY what I meant in my answer to @SugarD about denial:

    “a girl next door type tired of deadbeat dates with guys who think a feast is 4 quarter pounders with cheese and fries, watching football with a blowjob at halftime, a quickie when the game’s over”

    Do what you want to do, but don’t deny it or excuse it by making it look like a favour you are doing them “saving” them from “deadbeat dates with guys….etc.etc.”
    We all know most young girls are here for other reasons, NOT because they are tired of their peers.

    Now just frankly admit you like young girls, that’s fine, that’s what most men are searching for here. :-)

    • flyR says:

      Elaine – I’ll cop to part of the charges

      I like intelligent women
      I like strong women
      I like positive women

      I have dated and sugared across a 25 year spectrum and found happiness along the way.

      My sense is that a higher percentage of the over 30 crowd has experience some substantial disappointments along the way and that’s translated into a both a hardness and often over sensitivity.

      To their credit many of the over 35 are interesting, beautiful and awesome lovers. Frequently they are also looking for a permanent relationship.

      • Elaine says:

        @flyR , it is not the fact that some older men like younger girls. It is the lame excuse of “saving them from deadbeat xbox playing … etc” I expect that denial from other posters, not you ?

      • TVC 15 says:

        Yes, the pose of selfless heroism is highly entertaining.

      • problem is says:

        and that’s no shyiet!! @ FlyR among the more “mature” ladies

      • A Nonnymouse says:

        Yes, all those lying women who put in their profiles that they like to go out to restaurants, dress up etc. They really prefer a burger and a six pack and gimme the $$.

        Classy. But SDs take note. It’s some senior SBs that are saying this. So tone down the restaurants, outings etc, otherwise you risk being called Captain Save-a-ho.

      • elaine says:

        @A Nonnymouse

        Why don’t you ask them if they prefer to dress up and be taken by you to a Michelin star restaurant, or being given the extra money you would have spend on that?

        My guess is that in that case they would prefer the burger in t shirt and jeans. 😉

        PS. I would never call anyone Captain Save-a-ho, I am not judging anything other as hypocrisy and not calling things at their name.

  79. Kyle says:

    I didn’t know that posting here that I gave women a lousy $100 on M&G would cause that much of a controversy so much so to even be accused of being a girl? WTF hahaha….. $100? A lousy $100??? Are girls giving you bad attitudes of entitlement? then you need to learn how to screen better……. your problem not their……. and definitely not mine

    You get out what you put into something. If you’re looking for bargain hoes you’re going to get bargain hoes and have to tolerate everything that comes with that. This is all I’m saying on the subject…….. nobody has time for this shit

    • Anonymous says:

      @Kyle
      U surely should pay.
      I don’t think a 100 would be anywhere near enough for a woman to waste a couple of hours on such a d*ck.

    • A Nonnymouse says:

      Well yes, I can see why you’d have to pay, kyle.

      However, others don’t have to. It may be a bit unfair that you are expected to pay, and others are not, but that’s life.

    • Anonymous says:

      i feel sorry you have to pay to meet someone others do meet and greets for free if you want to pay money for nothing be my quest

    • Anonymous says:

      Well, I guess guys that are cheap and have no money will be complaining the most. and I agree here that they must date massively randomly without screening.

  80. flyR says:

    “Some of these bloggers have no respect for the other bloggers or even respect for the blog.”

    Who woudda ever thought

  81. flyR says:

    RE: the economy

    There’s lots of concern about Wall Street, ISIS, employment but the surest indication of a sagging economy is a wave of old SB contacts coming out of the woodwork. Six in the last week who dropped off the radar up to 20 months ago ( probably found other SD or decided to opt out) .

    Re: first date

    lots of good comments esp ugottab

    Gentleman offers – dependent on the situation single mother needing to hire sitter, long drive to place convenient to SD, public transit or uber .

    If an SB walks into a first meet without having received an offer of some limited help then it’s really too late…… However, if it’s my decision to not proceed I’ll make some gesture of good faith. Also think it is good to make it clear at the end of the meeting if there is no further interest, but do it in a positive way (assuming the SB is reasonably close to the promises) . Exception – on drugs, takes her phone to the restroom and disappears for a while, is a bitch (especially to staff)

  82. Anonymous says:

    Money for MG
    I do not think most of us are bothered by the money per se, after all it is not all that much in the grand scheme of things. It is the entitled attitude and our unwillingness to support it.
    I think that many girls also just focused on scoring some fast cash because they are in a bind. They have no intent to ever enter in the arrangement, just to get some “easy” money to cover the immediate expense. Why do I want to be involved in that peculiar version of “GoFundme”…

    • Jaybird923 says:

      “Why do I want to be involved in that peculiar version of “GoFundme”… ”

      Because it’s what jesus would do?

      • rembodler says:

        @Jay
        Jay…your Grammy must’ve told you that you shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God…

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Remmy Yes sir. I’m duly chasten. Should I get on my knees in penance for using the lord’s name in vain? Would that suffice or do you think more is required…

      • rembodler says:

        More might be required to ensure you are physically incapable of speaking any more profanities…Blasphemy should not be taken lightly. A Holy Communion…might be beneficial.

      • rembodler says:

        I mean, the Lord’s Supper…taking Christ in oneself. That sort of thing.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        of course you are right such an egregious sin would require more. I am eager to atone. If you believe taking a sip from the chalice and the swallowing of the sacred elixir will aid in his looking down upon me in favor and forgiveness, I will willingly yield to your wise counsel and instructions…

      • Anonymous says:

        i never thought of jesus as a sugar daddy but hey whatever works its a new era

  83. Anonymous says:

    Police report:

    In my area there was a news report about SA . A”SD” 29 yr old was arrested for abduction and sexual battery. He discovered his SB who was spending the night was screwing another “SD” so he barred the door not letting her get out ,then banged her out . She

  84. Bruce Wayne says:

    wow another stir created but it seems to be by one blogger, whose sanity I question.

    I get that maybe the SB asked for $100 because she wasn’t interested in me. I am not naive and I recognize that not all women (even women my own age) are going to be into me. I have M&Gs where I am not attracted to the SB (like in this one). I don’t ask for a sexual favor because I wasted time and money and wasn’t attracted to her.

    Some said I should have screened better — was I supposed to ask her how much she was going to charge me for the M&G? I told her I would compensate her for her travel expenses (she didn’t hire a sitter; she didn’t miss work). She traveled all of 5 minutes to meet me — so what was her expense — like $5 tops? I was prepared to offer $60 for $5 in expenses — I am not sure how that is cheap nor how that makes me a sucker. It was going way above and beyond what I had promised.

    I don’t have a lot of problem finding women on SA. It is getting harder, but I can still find them. People have a lot of different approaches.

    Other people posted that they never had someone ask for money at the end of a date. I have probably been on 50 M&Gs and it was the first time it ever happened to me too. That is why I posted — if it was a common occurrence, I wouldn’t have posted.

    This is the last I will say on it. If she was expecting $100 to drive 5 minutes and have lunch with me, she should have expressed that when I offered to pay her travel expenses. If she wants to be paid $100 to have lunch with an older guy, she needs to go to WYP and listen to the crickets and check her empty mailbox everyday.

    On an unrelated note, I am glad to see SA is finally moderating some posts.

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      I havent read most of what was posted on Feb 11 (gave up early in), but I did see your earlier post when you mentioned the $60.

      I think that $60 is a reasonable and considerate gift.

      I never ask for or even expect gifts on a first meet. Ive gotten some generous gifts on first meets, and, of course, it’s always appreciated. For some, I think that a first-meet gift is a standard token. I think it leaves a sweeter taste in even the most bitter rinsers’ mouths, and softens the blow of rejection. It’s a get-out-of-jail-sugarhell-and IG salt-flaming free card (salt-flaming…a ygbkm original ha). Think of it as a direct ascend to purgatory or, in some cases, heaven…where you will be kindly judged.

      A good rule of thumb, i think…

      “A lady never asks, and a gentleman always offers,” said some wise person somewhere.

      But here’s the thing…

      If you try to make it rain with train fare…you deserve to have lemon juice squeezed in your eyes…by accident, of course.

      There is a certain amount that you should just keep to yourself…for the parking meter, or to upsize your #4 value meal…or to save an emaciated child from starving for a donation less than a cup of coffee per day.

      What I mean is…

      Either dont give a gift, or give a gift that doesnt make your mother’s ovaries have regrets.

      For a lunch or coffee meetup…

      Consider giving a gift amount or gift card that would cover lunch at a similar establishment.

      For a dinner or cocktail meetup…

      Consider giving a gift amount or gift card that would cover dinner at a similar establishment.

      just my thoughts :)

      • SugarD says:

        generosity is always appreciated on either side. None of my Pots have ever given me an extra squeeze,hug, kiss on the cheek ,etc after the M&G . I didn’t expect it but it would go a long way towards endearing me to her and perhaps be a little more generous in my offer to her .

        Having said that,I never give money or cards to a Pot . I live in a suburban area and there might be a 20 min drive max but so far only one person asked -and she was an UTR.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        UTR…

        UnTrainedRinser?

        UrinaryTractReliever?

        Urban D1ct1onary says UnderTheRadar

        And, yes, a squeeze, hug, kiss on the cheek is appreciated when showing interest with affection.

      • SugarD says:

        UTR means under the radar escort -in other words -escort lite. She only screws 4 /day instead of 12.

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        I thought it was “untrained rinser” also

        great minds?

      • Anonymous says:

        utr i love that expression

      • Anonymous says:

        @YGBKM. I’ll have a gift of peanut butter for you for our first meet.
        “Salt Flammers” I love it.

      • ATLSD says:

        That’s Anon was me ^^

      • TVC 15 says:

        Salted and crunchy, no doubt

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        @ATL

        Peanut butter…you sure know the way to my lady parts. 😉

    • elaine says:

      I wouldn’t bother about the “stir” too much.
      Since we have “SDs” posting here with grandmothers of the age 45, and others only here to create turmoil and push their agenda’s, I would take most comments of those “experienced Sugar experts” with a trainload of salt.

      I think your approach is correct and gentle and I can completely understand the negative taste this SB left in your mouth.

      I am still surprised though about the large scale it happens, if I believe the SDs here.
      Never have heard it mentioned earlier by my pots or SDs.

    • Frank95 says:

      Bruce,

      I made a comment about the screening process before. So, I’ll respond to that.

      I always ask enough in the initial messaging that I know approximately how far away from the M&G point a pot is. If it is a long way, I’ll offer an amount to cover the travel cost up front, and before the meeting, and honour it.

      Otherwise, I specifically say that the M&G carries no obligation for anything on both sides, again in the initial exchange of messages.

      The result: I’ve never been asked for any sort of payment at the M&G, ever.

    • Anonymous says:

      It is about the class that wealthy guys have. Was she different from the picture ? Did she have different attitude than in her messages? Those sorts of things…

  85. FedUpAnon says:

    The new breed of SB – ea42dd441

    Not attractive, platonic and substantial..

    • NYCBrownBaby says:

      lmao

    • SouthernSB says:

      That woman hasn’t been 27 for the last 20 years. In fact if she is 27 then I’m 19 and I haven’t been 19 for the last 32 years. I don’t know why they try to lie so badly about their ages, geez if they’d just be honest they would have better luck.

      • elaine says:

        Hi @Southern good to see you back!

        I DO believe she is around her 30s though.
        Could be 27 or 32, but I don’t think she is much older.

        So congrats for you being 19 again! 😉

        But whatever the case, her expectations are ridiculous.

      • SugarD says:

        Hey @Southern ,how’s it shakin?

        I agree that she is a few decades older than her stated age . Up close and personal I suspect her age will show .

      • TVC 15 says:

        Hi, Southern. What did you wear to your cold weather date?

  86. Josh says:

    Some of these bloggers have no respect for the other bloggers or even respect for the blog. They come here to unload their mental diarrhea. Such people must be blocked if nothing else than just for the sake of the size of the comments section.

  87. Anonymous says:

    Why settle here? They can go to WYP,. if they want to settle. It is called, What is your price, for a reason. It is called Miss. Travel, for a reason, SA is called SA, for a reason.

    If you cannot provide enough incentive for a woman to meet you on Sa, then apparently you are bargain hunting and deserve to move to back page or WYP?

    If you are bargain hunting further, go to back page and find an honest to God hooker, who will fulfill your parched dreams for a price.

    It is not so difficult people. GO, where you know that what you need is found. Do not continue to infest a pool that cannot meet your needs and you knew this before you showed up. If I was your parent and you pissed in the pool, I would tan your hide for such disrespect by not knowing what you knew before you entered the pool. You knew where the bathroom was and where the pool was. They are two different places. I discussed with you the topic of, if you have to pee, tell me, and I will willingly, walk you to the bathroom. There is a time and place for everything. If you cannot decipher the difference as an adult, you do not belong in this pool. Go back to the blow up pool behind your parents house.

    You know, the blow up kiddie pool that some of you hang out of, as the only portion in the actual water of the pool is your ass, bc it is half blown up, bc you are lazy in your parents backyard. Where you sip your “pop a top beer”, can, and get-a farmers tan. You guys, bless your hearts (love you elsewhere, if ever I can attest that claim) are NOT welcome here. See what I mean people?

    • NYCBrownBaby says:

      if they could only think like this . Most guys don’t like the idea of getting a hooker because of guilt and pride but they choose the different route to make them feel better , basically switch the scenario . Instead of getting a hooker , they get “a girl next door type ” who is low on funds and he is the only one that can help her (damsel in distress scenario).

      Point 2

      If a man cant find something in one place , he will search somewhere else . thats why u see guys looking for orgy participants , subs to tie up and ppl who think n know that hookers are on here.

      just a quick insight on why WYP not working for a lot of ppl . I have gone out on abt 4 dates . 1 thing in common . All the girls there are escorts and hookers from Eastern Europe . it became known for that in a sense . so guys will go there just for that .

      • SugarD says:

        “why don’t they go on BP ?” comes up constantly in SB posts. Stop it ! We don’t want a girl who screws dozens of Johns/day -or even 2 . What I hope to find on SA is a fairly naive girl to whom sex can be fun but who is not riding the CC -either for pay(Hooker) or a college slut. I don’t want to trade secretions with multiple other visitors to the vagina

        I know many here are Pros and sluts ,but I seek (and provide) a monogamous experience.

      • SouthernSB says:

        Good for you Sugar D…that’s what I’m looking for too. I’m not in your age range though. I keep myself in my lane and don’t try to compete with the college girls by lying about my age or asking for allowences that would buy me the Hope diamond. All I want is a suppliment to my income, a few nice gifts, and a small return to the life I had when I was growing up. Hey, life happens and we all can’t stay in the same income bracket that our parents had. I’m not looking to get married and I’m not looking for some Cinderella fairy tale. Fairy tales are for children, and only five year olds are princesses.

      • SouthernSB says:

        “Allowances” I did spell it wrong, and now I’m correcting it. I shouldn’t get one if I can’t spell the word.

      • Anonymous says:

        southern SB im sure you can get a allowance even if you can’t spell it we all knew what you meant

      • elaine says:

        @SugarD

        “why don’t they go on BP” only comes up every time male posters come up with arguments that suit better to BP as to SA.
        Simple as that. :-)

        Some men just don’t understand the difference, and we kindly remind them.

        “If the cap fits you should wear it!” 😉

      • flyR says:

        “girl next door type who is low on funds ”

        perhaps she’s a girl next door type tired of deadbeat dates with guys who think a feast is 4 quarter pounders with cheese and fries, watching football with a blowjob at halftime, a quickie when the game’s over ……..

        A suggested test for SB’s is to think ahead about how you will feel about having been with this SD in 10 years. If you don’t think you will smile don’t do it.

    • Josh says:

      @NYC

      What’s your interest in writing here?

      Do you like to read what you write or do you not even read what you write?

      • NYCBrownBaby says:

        if you dont like it just move along dear. I dont notice u so u dont have to notice me. quite simple really . Was replying to what Anon said . Im not releasing mental diarrhea. N if you feel like ppl are doing that dont read the blog . start your own topic or wait until a new blog post to come up. im sure that would be a fresh start for you.

  88. NYCBrownBaby says:

    QUESTION FOR SDs

    I have heard the phrase ” sbs have high and unrealistic expectations ” and that we should be realistic abt the “market value” . What i wanna know is what do you sds think is an unrealistic expectation and what is the “market value”

    P.S not calling out anyone on the forum its just that i have seen and heard this across many forums . I just want to know where all this is coming from

    • Josh says:

      SBs are fine. It is SA that eggs them on to “know their worth” and “not to settle for less” and that the “average” allowance is $3,000/month…yeah right.

      This helps SA to drag SDs out by making it almost impossible for women to “settle for less” as they don’t want to be cheated out of the imaginary money, which is supposedly floating about the sugar land.

      When it comes to men, most women have problem being pragmatic. For them either the older man pays umpteen amount or they are more than happy to go back to/stay with their broke young projects.

      • NYCBrownBaby says:

        what is the average allowance to you ?

      • Reb. says:

        “what is the average allowance to you ?”

        The problem is, these blog “SD’s” don’t really have the typical SD income, so they don’t know what a wealthy SD would pay. They freak out at anything over THEIR budget because they think the world revolves around their views. They think women are lying if they receive anything over their own budget. The problem with the “average allowance” is depending on the quality of SDs on the site. In bumfkc Kansas, the average could be $300 per month while in NY, it is 5k per month, so they can’t grasp reality.

        For instance, I am flying out to meet a SD in 2 weeks. He just paid for my first class flight of $500 by sending an online airline gift card, but… to them I am lying! Lol.

      • elaine says:

        Well @Reb, I must admit that a FIRST CLASS ticket of $500, doesn’t really sounds very credible to me either….

      • Reb. says:

        “Well @Reb, I must admit that a FIRST CLASS ticket of $500, doesn’t really sounds very credible to me either….”

        What do you mean? I live near NY, so $500 for fc is normal.

    • SugarD says:

      Good question @NYC.

      In the mid Atlantic market I have no problem with very satisfactory SBs in the $800-1000 /month. Quality does not go up with higher allowances. After all ,most of us are looking for FBs and not life partners. Keep in mind that extras are added on -such as events,dinner,gifts,trips. We have to consider the whole cost package when taking on an SB

      Anything over Practical in my opinion is unrealistic. Not impossible but the vast majority of SBs are not so exceptional so as to earn higher allowances

  89. Anonymous says:

    I know this sounds terrible, but I wish I knew who some of the characters on the blog are so I can refer them to a good psychiatrist. I think a few people here will greatly benefit from therapy. I mean absolutely no disrespect, but some comments show bookcase patterns that are just hard to ignore.

  90. FedUpAnon says:

    What I’m looking for

    I’m laid back and easy going, I’m willing to try anything and just want to have fun I’m not too comfortable with anyone over the age of 22/23

  91. Anonymous says:

    @SDs, promise yourself and stand your ground.

    FUCK VALENTINE’S DAY!!!

    There is no benefit to be had by spending ANY, I MEAN ANY, amount on the Valentine’s Day on any of these women, whether SBs, wives or other women in your life…make some excuse. To start to wean them off, give them a non-Valentine gift this year. Then see how it goes the next year. With time they will get the message.

    If you want, you may spend a little bit of money on girlfriends though. After all they put out for so little.

  92. Anonymous says:

    SA stats
    One noticeable difference: a couple years ago if you click her profile, she would almost always click yours, to check you out. I noticed it happens less. The only girls who write back (obviously only half of them) are the ones I messaged.
    I get the vibe that a lot of girls have unrealistic expectations, but instead of settling for what the market value is, they just drop out.

  93. Anonymous says:

    A final thought to all the seriousness about being faithful and issues of treating women like garbage and damaging others…if his dick wasn’t good and his sex wasn’t worth staying for, the bitxh would have never lasts as long as he did. Doesn’t mean the next bitch will want how coxk like her, that’s for sure.

    Let him try to run the same game with no dividends to the woman. And are of she stays…lmao, negatory.

    But if he built something to start with on solid ground and then provision the funds before his a hiring behavior and tactics and the woman/women fell victim, then..:I understand the damage he produced and turned into a sick “getting off on it” tactic

  94. n0name says:

    This page got tiresome….. someone start a new one pls

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Here’s a better options… maybe you stop posting. I for one believe this might alleviate the tiresome nature of the blog. Plus it’s so much easier than starting a new page. :-))

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Lol that’s not what it’s for :-)

      • Jaybird923 says:

        they moderated your post now @n0name Looks like SA wants you to stop posting too

      • Josh says:

        I am glad that they are moderating @n0name’s nonsense now. It was about time.

        Everyone should have the opportunity to express themselves. However, those who have no regard to the page size and how it becomes excruciatingly slow due to inane posts should be moderated or totally blocked.

  95. n0name says:

    Lololol, ’twas not an SD posting …. that might put it into perspective .. women often put out, have their babes and get eff all… There is a noname and n0name 😉 makes for more fun perhaps.

  96. rembodler says:

    @Elaine
    When I started a few years ago, I thought exactly like you. I met a couple women who seemed nice and were not pros. I gave them a month worth of allowance, not right away obviously (I was not that dumb even back then) but after some time. One just disappeared. Another started to slack off.
    Yes, it does not make much sense, but that is what happens. Once it happens to you, one would be silly not to make the obvious conclusions.

    • n0name says:

      you failed to provide well basically … there is responsible polygami and any old shit …. and your ways probably qualified you as the less flattering option

      • rembodler says:

        @n0name
        I think from now one I am just going to ignore you. They should pay better to your guards at the asylum.

    • elaine says:

      @rem

      I am not saying one shouldn’t learn from his experiences.
      Nothing wrong by not avoiding to be scammed.
      You and I have our disagreements about things, but I do think you have a reasonable POV on your arrangements.

      I just can’t imagine these scams happen on such a large scale though!

      • Anonymous says:

        elaine it is hard to imagine this happening but it does i like to think we live in a better world but but you can see by the number of poster saying this that it must be so

      • n0name says:

        He sounds like a cheap skate… maybe that is his general problem

      • Anonymous says:

        @ n0name

        He never wanted to provide, nor did he, unless all hell broke loose or their was a crisis once a year t once every 3 years. The point is, has he been providing for all the free sex hreceoved, the encouraging texts, the gifts he refused to take with him and turned down, the insults he made constantly that certain women were not worthy of his time bc they did not look like his porn tapes. Jesus, we coul go on here and will not. He is a has been and a wasted point of conversation.

        Not all men are such “pieces” where they use and abuse women in this space. However, when you damage women to this degree for years at a time, then you are damn right, they seek counseling and ten come back on the blog and profess what their all mighty counselor informed them of. That, “damaged people, damage people.” Well, no shit Sherlock. But, how about admitting that the people you sought outside of the ones who damaged you, the new people were not damaging to you. You damaged them and got off on it and you pissed in the whole pool and called yourself clean. Stop telling half the truth and speak the whole truth from more than your biased, therapeutic outcome from hat your therapist recommended for one, not the whole troop. Let’s get real people. Let’s get so real that either you flow in te dal or you are just a burnt out light and keep it that way until you low again because you dining the rest of us, was not the purpose. Hell, we were putting into you and diming everything we had access to, just to make your single light shine. Don’t shit on us all, just bc you don’t have faith.

      • Anonymous says:

        @ Anon 5:04pm

        What if we had an SD who got rinsed by a scamming SB on first meeting, then kept going back to the same scammer again and again for years? getting scammed by her every time. How would you feel if he kept coming back and complaining what a heartless bitch she is?

    • n0name says:

      Not enough allowance … lol anyone would slack off on a bad deal

    • Anonymous says:

      @ Rem

      Did she slack off bc she felt like you were giving her “running away” money? Or, did you stay consistent and so did she? If you slack off on whatever you need most? Do you still expect a SB to stay consistent? while she needs most exactly what you do? called sex, called attention, called love, called energetic, seducing of any scenario, you post.
      If you do not invite a SB to chat, do you think she will evoke you on her own? What if her knees knock afraid you are married? What if she fears you are hot in the kitchen with another at present? What if she is a freak in the making and fears you will demean her, if you knew what she wants? What is she longs for a good daddy and is awaiting a man to call the shots and her be beckoned at the right timing?> and you let her down? No history making headlines, if you let her down. She cannot read minds and awaits your instruction. What if she is not a pro and desires a man to treat and be a pro to? only his pro, where he hangs his hat on that fine ass? What if…what if.. while ya’ll sit and nickel and dime the equation and she is a reader in her college dorm that second guesses herself in her college dorm with her friends that giver her the “one, two punch” and give you a TKO, IN their opinion and when you contact her again, you are down for the count and OUT, BEFORE YOU STARTED. It is a growing concern on matching up participants based on anticipation of the already existent participants who have made themselves know. What if you wind up with one whom you think you know, based on research, and you know not at all because you are limited in realizing, your research was a falsification of security/falsification of a wild child, that is truly a nun almost, in experience.

      Thoughts?

  97. Anonymous says:

    I am laughing so hard, at dude man below, I can hardly breath. The guy tells married men to take their wives to a spa, or a spa retreat and invest in her, in order to get laid.

    Back in day, I, as a SB used to sex text a married man (in my defense of being a dumb ass and thinking he walked on water and have since woke the hell up). While he was yearly on a spa retreat for his wife. While she read a book and STILL continued to ignore his ass, while she bathed in the sun and was relaxed as hell from personal joint massages.

    I got paid nothing on a continual basis for sex texting him, my time, the cheap ass never bought me a massage. The cheap ass never put any thought into anything that involved me nor my time. But, he dam sure wanted all o my time, all of my attention, all of my sex talk to get him off and left me in a continual stance of “unrewarded for my good and continuously devoted behavior”. He used me and abused me for years.

    SB’s, your time is money. And if $60.00 is a man’s version of rewarding you and he is bitching on a blog over it, then he sure as hell needs to go to baxkpage and not SA.

    It took me a long ass time to realize I was swindled on an ongoing basis by this man. And he certainly there in my face everything he did do or me yearly, as if I was supposed to be on my knees monthly to thank him for free. These are the same men who hire pro’s when they are out of town and kick out $3,000 for an hour with a woman who is flawless in looks and treats him as a passing thought. But, if you let these men, they will work you to be a fat, hairless, woman who has nothing to show or yourself when you are 45 because they spend moons on their wife to “approve” of them when their wife married them for their money, not their dick. So you bring up the slack by wanting his dick and his money in equal fashion and he works you until you are worthless and moves on. He doesn’t care about you. He never will and never has. Get your money ladies or walk. Say next like the men here and you will be just fine.

    • elaine says:

      The sugarbowl is a place for damaged people damaging other damaged people…

      • rembodler says:

        …and then go on a blog to tell other damaged people about it…:))).

      • Anonymous says:

        No, Elaine you are flat out wrong, like a hospital with a dead flat line.

        The sugar bowl is a space where men who are decent can attract decent ladies women and receive exactly what they desire, without damage from either party.

        It is the damaged people who are wealthy who inict purpose damage on the in wealthy, on purpose, in order to minimalist their expectations and damage (in many cases) the innocence, bc they desire others to hurt as they hurt.

        That, in and of itself, is NOT, I do repeat, NOT, what a true traditional SD/SB experience and definition is not is it why and how this space was created to be. Period

        And you of all people Elaine that sings praises that your SD’s are goo to you, carry you as a mistress and your ability to associate and disassociate as needed based on what each relationship requires, is rather shocking to hear from you. All saint Elaine.

      • Anonymous says:

        Pretty much, all about being a victim and blaming others even though they have hurt people themselves and now purposely set out to do so.

      • elaine says:

        I am no saint, and I will be the first to admit that my ability to associate and dissociate and my desire to be the mistress of married men, instead of being the SO of a loving but boring John Doe, is not “normal” and finds it roots in damage.

        “Normal”, happily married men are not actively searching for SB/mistresses on a sugar site. Young “normal” girls are not having sex with men their grandpa’s age for allowances.

        This is not judging -I take part of this lifestyle myself-, it is just my observation that there is a lot of damaged people in the bowl.

      • elaine says:

        And btw. the “damage” text was a quote from an old blogger, not mine originally.
        The @Anonymous, to whom I adressed it knows what I meant.

      • Anonymous says:

        @ Elaine

        I course you know I know what it means.

        I even know wether spy was started and how the whole “genre of phrase” began. I care enough to keep my mouth shut bc I cared so much, it utterly broke me. With a man that was so self centered, that he couldn’t realize real, when I was in his face and accepted the fact that everyone “in this space” was a daged person, damaging other people. This was/is the extreme that the person took to the extreme to influence all kinds. The innocencent, the half damaged and the ones who were damaged, that needed to hear it. However, the person took the icing on the cake and spreaded it wide, to seal a deal, without specifications on te box, that it dos not apply to all.

        The imposter was someone who had been hurt by their mate, and they continued to inflict damage on all whom reached out to them. Innocent, and mid-life border line inflicted. But, the nail was drug as if all should be treated the same based on te damage that was inflicted by one. That, is where the problem brewed and festered.

        You cannot, no one can continue to treat other people on the same bias is that one treats you or the whole shop goes down. It is not our fault, maybe it is Half your fault and their fault or maybe it is all their fault and none yours. But damn, stop treating others like they are speaking for the 1% of shitty person in your life as then infected the rest like a virus.

        There are plenty of EV’s eye who would give their pussy, arm and a leg, a butt cheek and then some, to have half of what the married, egotistical, spoiled rotten birches receive on a daily basis and now take it for granted. All men and women should not be lumped into the same category. It is unfair and unsound. And, that my friend, is the damage.

    • SugarD says:

      Shazaaam ! Someone has been hurt and I am sorry for you . But ,that is no reason to mistrust the entire system -or all males. All guys are not users like this Dude . Get some counseling and go find yourself a good man .

      • n0name says:

        Right … and who exactly is the good man on here ????

      • SugarD says:

        @Elaine
        “Normal” happily married men are not actively searching for SB/mistresses on a sugar site. Young “normal” girls are not having sex with men their grandpa’s age for allowances.

        I agree. We’re all effed up including me -I admit it. Yet I am here like all the rest of you. It fills a need that needs filling and is available.

      • elaine says:

        @SugarD

        I am here too.
        But at least you and I freely admit that we are effed up. :-)

        So many others still in denial, coming up with lame excuses and pretending only THEY are right and the rest is wrong.
        Or simply attacking others to make themselves feel better.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Elaine and Sugar D I make three. I freely admit and accept my issues :-))

    • Anonymous says:

      He certainly won’t care about you if you have the attitude of the poster above that is for sure.

      Respect is earned it’s not a given. I care a great deal and want to care about my SB, a lot of Pot SB’s get wrong though during the messaging stage, as I also care about myself I keep walking.

      In short if you want a caring arrangement than you have to care in return, if you just want the money then you will have to deal with the guys who just want sex.

      • Anonymous says:

        Don’t preach to me about caring. I was the caringest woman a man would dream or ask for and never looked at it as a dollar sign investment. I was emotionally and sexually invested in the man for
        years. He knew it and took advantage of it. So, do not come at me with some half cocked paragraph of your tired words of wisdom that cannot even break the sound barrier of a conscious thought. Next!

      • Anonymous says:

        Aweeee, yeah. This shit is on like Donkey Kong around here, my little Butterscotch.

        Social acceptable behavior,let us discuss in greater detail and let’s hone in on what DOES a man really expect for his money? How slack the men perform, in and out of the bed when it is not a p4p arrangement? How slack men become in appreciation, when it is not a monthly allowance? They show up every damn day. Fucking daily, sex texting 24/7, and expect to get their own free ride bc they gave you $2,500 or a month. Are you fuxking kidding me? No wonder men seek out sugar babies. They are cheap as fuck men that want to et a better rate than backpage and also to find purer women who do not have “per day” clients in order to narrow the man’s chances of disease. Let’s all get for real here. Ya’ll sugar coat this blog with such a film that they had to pass a new bill in congress for millions to investigate the whole ordeal to look into “sugar coating”. As a news announcer proudly says “the dynamics, levels and layers within sugar, raw sugar, sugar cane, as the Splenda version on the sweet-n-low” if you know what I mean.

    • n0name says:

      funnily enough it was not a bloke either …. this page is indeed strictly for lols 😀 😀 an di fit seems out of place internet is slow here too

    • Anonymous says:

      Sorry to hear your experience. I thought the idea about dating a married man (having no ever leaving his wife) is so that you don’t fall in love.

      If you are a romantic woman, and tend to fall in love with the man you are with, then find a single or divorced man deserving of your time and devotion, and treat him well, without the putting on him baggage from the previous guy :-)

      Also, it can be self-damaging to insist on comparing to what other women are getting from the same man: that other woman can be his own daughter or the mother of his children. Chances are the entertainer or employee, even the top performing one, is not going to get the same benefit package as his own flesh-and-blood gets.

      • Anonymous says:

        Thank you, silent sugar daddy whom is married and in the closet, for responding. The prosecution calls for another advocate for a witness or does the prosecution test its case under oath, that you are guilty as charged? Anyone? Can anyone answer the question her and do so, without embarrassment to everyone. I would like to call a boob for a character witness here.

        There is not much left here but Boobs that would even interject and win the case that you, yourself are a real butt at times.

      • SSSD says:

        Amicably divorced. So the ex-wife can appreciate occasional spas and vacations as rewards for doing a good job baby-sitting my kids, while I have the time and resources to date and make more babies without jealousy among different women and without a blank check sitting out there for half.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        SSSD,

        Am I still welcome on your island? May I, please?

    • n0name says:

      only it was not a man so the whole diatribe needs re-writing

    • n0name says:

      hence no money = no honey in this book lol , but sorry you put out for nothing

  98. Anonymous says:

    @Bruce Wayne – Sorry Bruce but reading your comments I see why you have little luck. You are too easy with the money, it shows a lack of self respect on your part.

    A SD who is too generous from the outset is like a woman who is too easy sexually, they won’t be respected.

    Take your time, no money till arrangement agreed upon and consummated. Decent women will understand this, why are you compensating women for meeting you for lunch? Did you not buy them lunch anyway?

    Self respect = Better quality SB’s.

    Self respect will filter out the time wasters and rinsers during the messaging stage.

  99. elaine says:

    Can anyone please explain me what sense it makes for a SB to scam a half month allowance and run?

    • Anonymous says:

      n0name was promoting meeting fee. Half a month for first time between two people new to each other is quite reasonable, just in case the two turn out to be incompatible in the intimacy department despite good chemistry at the dinner or bar.

      • Anonymous says:

        “first time” as in consummation, not meeting & greeting.

      • Anonymous says:

        noBrain is a rinser who doesn’t care about the SD in the first place.

      • n0name says:

        I am all for proofs of commitment. you commit for three months yo shower me with the full 100% consummation benefis over three months and not some kind of other longer bullshit timescale. geddit?

      • n0name says:

        call i what you like, if you are a gent you have to help a damsel in distress or just be a plain shit = up to you

      • Anonymous says:

        Most damsel-in-distress do not deserve rescuing. Eliminating their distressful genes from the gene pool would be beneficial to future children. White-knights who attach their own genes to the distressful damsels deserve to have their own gene blotted out as well.

        It is far better to invest time and resources on the women and men who are happy and successfully handling their available resources. Reinforce success, never reinforce failure.

    • Anonymous says:

      If she has no intention of having sex with the SD and sees the SD as a sucker who is throwing his money around as if it were blank paper, it makes perfect sense.

      She uses the SD to get the cash, when it starts looking like he wants a return on his investment she runs.

      A lot of these idiot SD’s who give money on first meets and provide cash etc without an arrangement in place will never see the SB again.

      I don’t blame the SB’s either. The SD is older and if he thinks he is being some kind of White Knight Mangina Save a Ho then he deserves to be ripped off, of course he just writes it off as the price of finding a SB.

      Bullshit, it’s the price of being an idiot.

      • elaine says:

        @Anonymous

        Ok, suppose this is the theoretical sense.

        But doesn’t it make more sense to go for a steady SD you like, with a steady monthly allowance?
        Instead of constantly having to search for new pot SD’s, messaging with them, meeting with them, trying to squeeze money from them?

        And for what?
        Some chump change or in best case half a months allowance?
        So if your guys estimation of $1000 allowances as average is right; $500?
        And how steady is the stream of pot SDs in an average location, and with a 4 SBs : 1 SD rate? How often and how long can she repeat that?

        Bottom line; I can’t really believe there is a lot of girls doing this as a common practice… It just doesn’t make sense….

      • Anonymous says:

        @Elaine – Yes it does make more sense – if the woman actually is willing and interested in being a SB who provides something in return for her allowance.

        If the woman is just wanting to scam the SD then it makes a great deal of sense to work it so you get paid just to meet up for a chat and then never see him again. Easy money when you want it for never having to do anything.

        You could apply the same theory to con artists, you could make more money by actually building a reputation and working, but the con artist wants the money for nothing so they are happier taking less but also doing less.

        Some of these women too expect a few hundred dollars just to meet up. And remember they aren’t doing anything for it. How often can they get away with this? Again she invests little, free membership, send some messages, see what happens.

        There are lots of scammers out there Elaine, different scams and women who want to be paid just to say hi.

      • Anonymous says:

        The head count percentage might be low, but they over-represent themselves in the candidate pool because they are constantly searching. If a rinser has to have 4 to 8 suckers a month to meet her budget quota, as opposed to an honest SB needing only 1 steady SD in a year, she is going through as many SD’s as 48 to 96 honest SB’s do in a year!

        The opportunity cost of a rinser’s time is her employment opportunity doing other lines of work that she can find (perhaps minimum wage or less), not the rate she’d be rewarded if she were an honest SB; she has no intention of having an honest conjugal relationship with any SD.

        It is crucially important for SD’s to guard against rinsers, just like it is crucially important for SB’s to guard against “Dave”-like male scammers. Otherwise, the ecosystem would deteriorate very fast if such flagrant and notorious bad behavior were rewarded. Otherwise honest people would quickly emulate scammers if the system rewards scammers.

      • Anonymous says:

        +1 to the anon above.

        As a general rule, the reason people get scammed is they expect something for nothing/little effort.

        If a man is promising big before he has met or gotten to know the SB than he is desperate and is looking for a quick fix. Likewise a SB who is promising sex on a first meet is also desperate and will most likely take the cash and run.

        Invest time and effort in getting to know each other without the sex/money angle and go from there. Nothing good comes easily or quickly. No matter how much sex or money you throw at it.

      • Anonymous says:

        @ expect something for nothing…

        Erne, not when you have invested over months and months and months after knowing the SD for years and his cheap ass still treats you like a $2.00 whore. There is no one here on this blog who is an advocate for the good SB’s who invest and invest and wind up with shot they wind up holding b they invested feelings and a true encouragement and longing for the SD. No one here addresses this issue. If it is all about a 3 month stint and no emotion, then you are damn right, the fat fucker will pay and we will begin to view all the men as fat fuckers instead of real men that have a heart. 10-4, for you loud and clear.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Anon 4:08pm

        1. Don’t invest emotions in a person who is not available for emotional attachment due to existing marriage that he has no intention of getting out of.

        2. Assuming you have taken care of point #1 above, it’s just like any other kind of dating: if you want material benefits going beyond the duration of his hormonal urge and your youth would sustain you, produce a baby for him. Simple enough, just like any other kind of dating. They call it “the ball and chain” for reason.

    • rembodler says:

      After the first couple meets in the arrangement I always “advance” her one date forward. This way if I cannot meet for some reason the following week, she is covered.
      This is very reasonable.
      IMHO, not reasonable will be to give the whole thing a month ahead or to give anything substantial before the arrangement.

      • SugarD says:

        I always tie allowance with performance . It just works better.

        Whenever I advance money it ends up biting me in the ass . I didn’t have change for a thousand one visit so I gave her 2 weeks pay. Wouldn’t you know ,the prepaid visit took 10 days to occur. I lost a week -as did she-and got anxious that she was flaking with my money. Since I only see one SB I got horny ,which is the worst !.

        It’s important to keep them honest and a little bit anxious to please Daddy. 100% comfort is not good.

      • Anonymous says:

        Pretty sad there bun, if were not communicating with her daily, then her take was, you are/were not invested. You can blame her all you want, but if you were not vocal and in communication with her, who’s ass is on the fire/chopping block? Oh lookie Lou, it’s called “you”. Next?

  100. Anonymous says:

    You know I always thought I was a cheap azz but after reading a lot of these posts I feel better about myself……..

    I’ve met a lot of girls off this site. Mostly just met not had an arrangement but only with a few. I’m a selective SOB like that. But EVERY girl I’ve ever met I’ve paid for her travel expenses. Every girl gets the same shit though. I don’t like to waste time doing calculations about it……

    I just take $100, shove it in an envelope and hand it to her at the end of the meet whether I’ve decided to take her or not. WTF it’s the right thing to do…..

    Thought I was always cheap just doing $100…… fuck that’s loose change to me and I’m not the richest guy on planet earth……..

    • Anonymous says:

      except you’re a woman and you never met or gave anyone anything.

      • Anonymous says:

        +1

      • n0name says:

        Nopes, I met a rather sweet POT SD once and I broke my rules travelling, but at that particular time travel was kind of OK, and he gave me a nice envelope somewhat in excess of the quoted amount, shall we say …. I am not sure why SDs under 170 want to meet taller girls …. it just not going to work ….. on many occasions ….. I know I can intimidate people if they are expecting to meet a bimbo and then I dispense great stories 😀 😀 😀 Then they get really worried perhaps 😀 😀 😀 I am certainly not the type to initiate smooching 😀

      • n0name says:

        100 bucks should be small change …. and it is really very small change and not that impressive either

      • n0name says:

        Rubbish …. probs under 40 non-SD … or would you rather cry your eyes out because you cannot afford or you wanted a pro bono scenario? I met a pot, who was sweet, but his idea of allowance was buying some chocolates …. hhhmmmm we, met, discussed, I got my petrol, he was nearly crying, I felt borderline bad …. but but but …. why would I be a charity for the guy when he does not want to be a charity for me???

      • Anonymous says:

        I don’t give money to street beggars for the simple reason that I don’t want them to take over sidewalks. Rewarding street beggars a couple hundred dollars a day is a slap in the face for every hard working minimum wage worker who earn an honest living.

      • Anonymous says:

        noBrains doesn’t have any credibility either.

        I agree with the Anons, you don’t give easily to SB’s as that will make them think they will never have to do anything, not to mention once they get their cash they will just disappear after one meet anyway. A nice easy way to make money for nothing.

    • SugarD says:

      “free money ” is a bad practice and makes you an easy mark. You tend to appreciate things more when you earn them.

  101. Bruce Wayne says:

    and one last comment on this to provide perspective…. how would it have been received if I told her I expected a hand job or blow job for my time and effort? It would have gone over worse than her request for money. Why is it ok for the SB to ask for money on the meet and greet, and not ok for the SD to ask for sexual favors?

    • Frank95 says:

      Sounds like you need to pre-filter a bit more before the meeting possibly?

      But I sort of regard the women who ask for money just to meet (other than travel expenses which are fair enough) as being the same species as guys who ask women to “audition” for free – scammers. However, it’s such a painfully obvious scam, that surely only minimal numbers ever get caught on either side of the gender divide. Surely?

    • Anonymous says:

      Because sex is different from money, it’s intangible it’s private and sacred. Money on the other hand is tangible.

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        To women, it is private and sacred; to most men, it is a physical act.

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        so are you saying that it is acceptable to ask for tangible things, but not intangible things? I think BOTH are tacky.

      • rembodler says:

        That is a very “romantic” notion of sex. Whoever feels this way, is probably better off not join SA.
        Just to be devils advocate, I would say it is exactly the opposite. If you give away sex, you still have as much to keep giving. If I give away money, I have less money to give…:-)). So asking for a “sample” of sex is less damaging than asking to “sample” the money.

      • Cryptic Anomaly says:

        If sex is so sacred to women then why do they sell it? Why can they turn the affection on and off just by seeing the money?

        Please, sex is probably less sacred to women then it is to men.

        The SB’s who want money just to meet are great actually. It tells me they are scammers and I move on.

      • Anonymous says:

        +1

    • Anonymous says:

      Wasn’t the what’s your price, sister site of SA just that?

    • TVC 15 says:

      I would not ask for money for a meet & greet because I think it would be tacky, unless I was on wyp where that’s the whole point.

      • n0name says:

        I would, if they were an utter bore with no prospects …. I can spot a pro bono affair seeker a mile away. If they had a nice personality and had a few stories as well, I sometimes keep them as a “friend” … Some guys are really nice and I am happy to discard the looks and a bit of a tummy, if they come across well. With the others …. it is like …. right, your wife does not fancy = I can see why …. maybe some guys should make more effort at home really. Why not cozy up to wifey, take her out, get her a nice spa trip… book a joint personal training session … if they fancy a slimmer shape but fear frying pan treatment ….

      • n0name says:

        The trouble is the guys still buy into that bullshit that there are hot women out there desperate for sex with anything that moves …. erm nopes …. that is how males operate

      • Anonymous says:

        There you have it, gentlemen, if the girl asks for a fee at the end of M&G, she is not into you.

    • Anonymous says:

      bruce it doesn’t hurt to ask if shes asking for money if you have the allowance ready many sugar babies are ready to get at it because they want to be paid

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        Not judging, but I don’t have sex as part of the meet-and-greet.

      • Anonymous says:

        ive never had anyone ask for money for a meet and greet its on SA that no sex or money gets exchanged so you have a meeting and see if everything is agreeable if all goes well you can start a arrangement ive never given money on a meet and greet but i do give a gift and thats fine you don’t have to have sex on a meet and greet

      • Anonymous says:

        I’ve never been asked for $ for a M&G either….. never had it happen….. not yet. Maybe it’s because I always tell women ahead of time that I’ll be covering their travel expenses……

    • n0name says:

      You;d have to start a proper allowance then. Simple.

    • Anonymous says:

      @Bruce Wayne – Sorry Bruce but reading your comments I see why you have little luck. You are too easy with the money, it shows a lack of self respect on your part.

      A SD who is too generous from the outset is like a woman who is too easy sexually, they won’t be respected.

      Take your time, no money till arrangement agreed upon and consummated. Decent women will understand this, why are you compensating women for meeting you for lunch? Did you not buy them lunch anyway?

      Self respect = Better quality SB’s.

      Self respect will filter out the time wasters and rinsers during the messaging stage.

  102. Bruce Wayne says:

    It appears I have created a stir. Just some points of clarification. I drove 40 minutes, she drove 5 minutes for the meeting. She was very attractive but we didn’t click – the conversation (or lack thereof) was painful and at times awkward. She said she had a college degree but I highly doubt it. Despite of having no intention of entering into an arrangement with her, I was prepared to give her $60. When she insisted I provide it, I balked. She lost 2 hours and maybe $2 in gas. I lost 3 hours, gas and a meal. I view it as a cost of finding an SB.

    • Frank95 says:

      Just curious Bruce, what was the $60 for?

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        a gesture of good will and so she didn’t lose money having lunch with me.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Bruce Wayne
        “a gesture of good will and so she didn’t lose money having lunch with me.”

        Why would she have lost money having lunch with you? Did she take time off from work?

    • n0name says:

      Make a donation, you can afford it

      • Anonymous says:

        Never give donation to street beggars if you don’t want them clog up traffic. Just because one can afford it, doesn’t mean one should reward bad behavior. Rewarding scammers is a slap in the face for every potential honest counter-party no getting the funding. With resources, comes responsibility.

      • n0name says:

        what bad behaviour? not signing up to half of everything to shag? men do have to pay, relax

  103. rembodler says:

    Maybe those of you who don’t like the rules can explain to me why do we need the notion of marriage? Of child support? We are all nice people, once we split up, certainly the partner make more money (predominately a male) will feel his moral duty to support the woman he was with and his child? That is the only point I was making, really. Some people will still do it,rules or not. We are not talking about cases where people are honest and decent, although they surely exist. So please, do not preach that “you get to know someone and they are decent and you can trust them”. If anything, that should apply to marriage. But isn’t it nice, ladies, that there are laws that cover you once you figure out that someone is not decent and you cannot trust them…?

    • Cryptic Anomaly says:

      A lot of these things like the harsh divorce laws, child support etc are there to cause further disruption to society. After decades it is working too, less people are getting married, less babies being born, it’s a means to an end.

    • n0name says:

      I simply lurve the rules such as no sex till marriage as in basically you sign up to give up half of everything 😀 I also lurve the child support on strength of DNA testing and the recent Michigan laws he he he

    • n0name says:

      you live in a strange land, guys love to sod obligations but use them as an excuse to sod the next obligation yada yada I have to pay to the ex … whilst the ex most likely gets eff all

  104. Wintermagic says:

    Not giving up in my long searching, but I do have to say, I’m finding a lot of folks with an ethnicity preference. By all means that’s normal, most of everybody has a preference in who they would want to date. But to actually post “No Blacks, No Asians, No Hispanics” is a bit depressing. At-least it will trim down my already small list of decent gay SD’s.

    • TVC 15 says:

      Think of people like that as saving you time by revealing themselves without you even having to meet them.

    • Cryptic Anomaly says:

      Some people will list their preferences because they get sick of certain groups messaging them. I knew a woman who wasn’t attracted at all to Indian men, she didn’t have it listed and would be messaged by lots of them, she was polite in declining but many of them would then insult and attack her, pretty much proving why she didn’t like them in the first place.

      Hence why some people just list their preferences.

      • Wintermagic says:

        See that is something I can understand, whoever you are referencing to clearly explained she’s had a bad experience with a minority on this site exclusively to the point of harassment. Sadly that’s not the case in the Gay SD community. There are half thought profiles labeled with “White’s only”.

  105. rembodler says:

    I think the rules exist to protect everybody. If you asked someone not to smoke right next to you, they could be nice and stop. Or they can say “screw you” and continue. But then the rules protect you, you do not have to ask and the other person cannot continue. Otherwise an unpleasant man with a gun will tell him to stop or lay down on the floor and spread his legs wide opened.
    The rule about no honey – no money is not there to protect a guy from entering into an arrangement where she will eventually follow thru. It is to protect him from the scammer who never plans to do it in the first place. You can rely on asking nicely to return the money that was obtained on false pretense. Or say that 5k is a chump change for you – especially here on the anonymous blog. Or be smart about it.

    • NYCBrownBaby says:

      there has to be trust on both sides . I dont that rule exist for men thou.Just being honest.

      • rembodler says:

        @NYC
        Trust is ok. But tell me.
        If I were to leave my car keys on a windshield of my expensive European car and leave it some sketchy neighborhood in NYC…and then come in week and whine that my car is stolen?
        Would you feel sorry for me? Because no one should take my car, it is not theirs…
        Or you would tell me that I am an idiot and deserve my car stolen?
        All I am saying, you ignore “until the panties” rule – you deserve your money to be taken, with no reparations. No sympathy here.

      • TVC 15 says:

        Fortunately, each of us gets to make up his or her own rules.

      • Anonymous says:

        Damn right!! Wouldn’t want some of these tight azzes making my rules……..

    • Cryptic Anomaly says:

      Exactly. The rules protect the SB too though if she is smart. A man throwing about wads of cash will want something in return, he could get aggressive if he is turned down and feels like he is ripped off.

      By taking your time and slowly getting to know each other you at least get a sense of what the person is like. All we ever hear on this blog is “Chemistry” well that can take time and it can’t be bought.

      Most people get conned because they want something that is too good to be true or something for nothing. It doesn’t work like that. Invest some time and effort and avoid being cheated.

    • Anonymous says:

      There are no ‘rules’ here. Each situation and arrangement is different. If that works for you fine, go ahead with it. But don’t make it your job to tell others what works and what rules shall apply to them. Most will want to take their time to get to know the other person in an arrangement, and aren’t interested just in the physical part or what’s down there.

      • rembodler says:

        @Anon.
        Oh, please forgive! In my ignorance I thought that is partially what we all are doing here – telling others what works and what does not… Unless somehow the only person who has all the knowledge is you. To tell me what to do. But I am sure, a humorless sod like you will not see the irony…

        “…don’t make it your job to tell others what works and what rules shall apply to them.”

      • Anonymous says:

        Maybe because there are no written ‘rules’ here. Ever thought about that?

    • Frank95 says:

      I understand what you’re saying rem. I’m not so much thinking of the “panties” saying as being a rule, rather I can’t imagine anyone handing over money before that happens. Paying someone to travel is a bit different, since they obviously have real expenses to cover.

      But, other than that, I’ve never even had an SB even suggest it seriously. I’ve had a few talk about a monthly allowance, for sure. However, when I’ve asked if that meant they trusted me to pay them after a month, every single one has thought pay per date to be the best idea “until trust has been built”. Further, I’ve never had any trouble getting the concept of “mutually beneficial” across. 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        Don’t fool yourself into thinking this is any different from escorting. Sex+P4P=John not a genuine SD who wants an arrangement.

      • Frank95 says:

        Anon@8.46,

        Always happy to pay a monthly allowance at the end of the month, if that makes someone feel better.

        Not sure how the frequency of allowance makes an iota of difference. What makes the sugar bowl different from escorting is that there’s a relationship+sex+money vs escorting is sex+money. It’s also the way the law distinguishes it too. Frequency of payment doesn’t enter into it. If you think that being paid monthly vs per visit makes a difference, your local LE might have something to say.

      • Anonymous says:

        You are just talking your book, because you are scam artist with no intention of fulfilling your end of an agreement, and probably never had an SD lasting more than a month anyway. The monthly option was offered: at the end of the month.

    • n0name says:

      You can afford a donation up front and then if it does not work you simply do not continue. Plenty of guys these days have no intention to start an allowance, so no money also means no honey. No sex until marriage was a wonderful principle. You could agree a weekly allowance for the first month too. Now weekly or monthly allowance is a lot less risk than half of everything :p

  106. NYCBrownBaby says:

    lol Interesting topics today

    • NYCBrownBaby says:

      Don’t expect anything on the first date . You don’t expect anything from me so i don’t expect anything from you. I live in the city , If a guy wants to get me cab or uber thats the norm.

      SA even advertise on porn sites lol . No surprise that they would be adverstising on thedirty.com . THAT EXPLAINS THE INCREASE IN YOUNG SO CALL SD .

      SB please be aware some of these guys are apart of some sponsor expose squads . That expose sugar babies and escorts online . They pose online and expose chats ect . just a heads up

  107. Anonymous says:

    ““It’s been my experience that it’s impossible for women not to fall in love. I think that’s asking something unnatural from a woman,”

    LOL What a crock…”

    @Jaybird – The Anon who stated that is a massive Mangina who still believes that women are these helpless little petals who need saving from the evils of the world. He is ripe for picking by all the rinsers on here.

    In my experience I have found that many women whether it be Sugar or normal dating don’t want to be tied down in such a way and although they may want male company they do not want to be dependent or have him dependent on her.

    So I agree with your assessment, what a crock.

    • crypticanomaly says:

      Correction, that Anon may very well be a woman anyway. Internet day at the psych ward again.

    • Anonymous says:

      @Anonymous,

      “@Jaybird – The Anon who stated that is a massive Mangina who still believes that women are these helpless little petals who need saving from the evils of the world.”

      Unless she is an MMA fighter, she still needs “saving”.

      If police is not available then she still needs “saving”.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I found that statement to be a crock for two reasons… 1)For the reason you pointed out, women aren’t helpless creatures with no free will who falls in love with every idiot she dates/sleeps with. 2) Because it’s a bullshit rationale to justify his behavior/what he really wants. He said it himself he likes variety. Which is fine but don’t try to pretend what you’re doing is in the best interest of the girls.

      How is it better for them to think they’ve found an arrangement with long term possibility only to discover after a month that they have to start the search all over again? It’s one thing if things just don’t work out and quite another to go into it knowing no matter what you’re dumping her after a month.

      If variety is what you want then you should be honest about it and let them know before hand or in your profile that you’re only looking for short term (1-3 month)arrangement. I personally wouldn’t waste my time if I know in advance but some might be perfectly fine with it.

      • Anonymous says:

        At first, Jaybird, I believed you were deceitfully placing words into my mouth; however, I went back and looked at my post and can see where there could have been a miscommunication.

        “No problem, but I don’t do that because I like variety. I’m more of a stability slash predictability guy.”

        This does not mean that I like variety. I was stating that I don’t do what I do because I like variety. I do it for the reasons I stated. Hence, placing, “I’m more of a stability slash predictability guy” afterwards.

        If one reads the entire post more carefully they can clearly see that I am not the personality type which favors a revolving door of females. I have not even taken sexual liberties with most of my SBs. It is more of a philanthropic situation for me, although yes, I do admit that I gather entertainment from doing such.

  108. Anonymous says:

    Amazing. Everytime I give praise to a SD, the only patriot by my side is TVC.

    Interesting. Apparently, no men on the blog revel in satisfaction of a man who brings his a game, his only game, his full throttle to make a woman holler, his anything, that is not bare bones to the table, uh huh…

    And the men of the blog go silent. Lmao. Ladies, please open your eyes and realize that men of SA in vast majority are not the pathetic cheap skate representTion of the blog that call all women bores and say no money until the panties hit the floor. To this, you say. Well sir, I shall pick up no dirt others on your old nor shall my sister find a speck of dust for me to fulfill my job until you can pay me adequately. This way, no energy is exerted for no good reason and this way, they realize that you will not begin to put “work” I to the relationship, until they do. A REAL SD does not ask what you need, he provides and the. You commence to as well. It is a chain reaction. This other nonsense is scammer 101 at its best.

    • Anonymous says:

      Ever consider that many of us started off completely different and found out that many of the women on here are just boring rinsers? Ever considered that we have high standards and that many of these women cannot meet them and so instead of improving themselves they attack us with lame shaming and guilt trips?

      You seem like a White Knight Mangina type. Many of us are real, genuine men and do not see our role in life as providing for women. Equality and all that. Make sense?

      • Anonymous says:

        I take it as well that you are the same Anon who below carried on about paying travel expenses. What do you want me to do hand them $3 for the train? I don’t look to meet women who are too far away.

        Some serious retardation on the blog of late.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        “Bitch betta have my [train] money?”

      • crypticanomaly says:

        @Kidding Me- Yep, there you go dance like a monkey for the $3 bitch, dance I say! lol

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Not sure you would get any takers, cryptic.

        Cant make it rain or even sprinkle with $3.

        Unless it’s $3 in pennies.

        But that would just be wrong.

      • cryptic anomaly says:

        But I covered your train fare!!!

  109. Anonymous says:

    Such a tough crowd tonight on compassion for a woman’s stance, considering most decipher based on how they have been treated. Nothing like a breathe of fresh air in the mix to add a level of authority when one speaks and dismissing the rest, as the squabble.

    Puurr, kitty got stopped in her tracks and them some! :)

  110. Anonymous says:

    @ Big Red

    You keep chewing on your big red there, andwt someone else cross the line that entices a woman with money, flare, Glare and a Protestant of “darling, now we are here” and they will remove you from the (I.e.) line that you have drawn, and never cross you path again.

    • Anonymous says:

      Meaning…it is someone who speaks, acts, and solves the problem and leaves you to tidy up the leftovers.

      • Anonymous says:

        Not the female in question as leftovers, the leftover females, from the one you chose to bypass. Hehe. They didnt, they put the whole damn hwy in park for this one. Mad respect big daddy. You still got mad game and cahonna’a to back up the action. #strutyourswagwithyouregotisticalself, much ablidged.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        who the hell is Big Red?

  111. BigRedLine says:

    I envisioned it as a large strip of duct tape going down the middle of a room. Some are so simple in their thought process. It amazes me.

  112. Anonymous says:

    My SD experience today was “awesome sauce!” One who knew me before time began and laughs at my antics. One who was a “surprise” encounter that always kept me on my toes and was always a breathe of fresh air! That is what the newbies cannot even begin to compare to. You can, if someone would mentor you there. Or, you have enough exposure in life to have the adequate essentials of common courtesy to get you there.

    Again, a learned trait by watching, in order to mimic from a mentor who infuses an inbred/common courtesy mindset.

  113. Anonymous says:

    Always appreciated when the woman likes the package, the gift, and the sender! Purrrrrr

  114. rembodler says:

    I think if a woman indeed wants to see “whether there is a connection/chemistry” and wants to take a bit of time before being in bed, that is perfectly fine. I am however, at a loss, why a gent should pay her while she is doing that. Either u r someone who is genuinely interested in knowing someone and then you do not need any money. Or you are just trying to get money for nothing and your “let’s see where it goes” is a ruse…
    If a guy gets sucked into paying for “let’s see where it goes” he has only himself to blame

    • TVC 15 says:

      Some men like to give women small gifts on meeting. I think it’s charming, but I don’t ask, or get upset if he doesn’t.

      It can also be used to imply that more is forthcoming when it decidedly is not, yet another good reason for not jumping quickly into bed.

      • rembodler says:

        @TVC – I think you have a bit of reading comprehension problem. No one is saying – certainly not me – that you should “jump quickly into bed”. I am saying the opposite – if a gent is willing, take as much time as both of you are comfortable with.
        Just do not ask him to pay you while you are deciding, contemplating and pondering…

      • TVC 15 says:

        Rem, I wasn’t implying you said that. I was merely sharing info about a gentleman’s possible motive for giving a gift early on, and suggesting a lady should wait to discern his true intentions. :)

      • Sugar D says:

        TVC 15 says:

        Some men like to give women small gifts on meeting. I think it’s charming, but I don’t ask, or get upset if he doesn’t.

        +1

        In my experience most SBs want to get on with the allowance phase and are willing to get intimate rather quickly . I do not see SBs who project a wait and see aura about them .

    • n0name says:

      Erm … and how would I know he actually has the money ??? To buy a lunch and bring a gift should be a very small beer.

    • Anonymous says:

      The arrangement shouldn’t be physical based only, otherwise what’s the point?

    • n0name says:

      “Why Men Do Not Listen And Women Can’t Read Maps” actually explains very well that women need a good provider and that is the price men have to pay for sex, by way of marriage or however else. All that “connection” talk is really mainly twaddle and avoidance tactics. Very few women would refuse a genuine proper care package.

      • TVC 15 says:

        Well, I would, if I didn’t like the man offering it. That’s the beauty of feminism, it gave me the option. Definitely open to the right guy’s package, though. 😀

      • n0name says:

        Well, if they are not offering my dream comes true scenario, I would certainly find a lot of faults with them … Some guys just hope someone might like them “for what they are” sans the willing provider attribute … hhhmmmm …. just not going to work …. feminism is not all it is cracked up to be – glass ceiling is real and thick

      • TVC 15 says:

        For sure! But at least now we can survive without a provider. We can say no to a much greater extent than before. There’s nothing small about not having to tolerate some horrible man just to be able to eat.

    • baby monkey says:

      well obviously you shouldn’t pay her while she’s doing nothing, are you serious? lol Yeah and when someone says “some men like to give women small gifts on meeting because i think it’s charming” this is a ruse as well

      “either you are someone who is genuinely interested in knowing someone and then you don’t need any money” are you serious rem? perhaps you meant “either you are some gold digger who is ‘genuinely interested’ in knowing someone and then you don’t need money?” what? it’s SA rem, do you know why women come here? MONEY, the rest is just ruse

      • Anonymous says:

        This is really true. I think we need to remember where we are and what type of women come here. That’s not to insult the women but these aren’t the types that are going on anything very “deep”.

        If I wanted someone to choose me on the fact that I’m a great man, I should go somewhere else. But no I stay here, where my ability to support is at the top of the list. It’s just the way it is.

      • rembodler says:

        You are simplifying it.
        Yes, there are core “values” in the bowl, money and bonking. But if you have been in a few arrangements, you would, no doubt, know the difference between someone who is in it purely for the money and who is not. There is no big red line, same as there is no big red line between SBs and escorts (SDs and Johns).
        Obviously, the extremes of each are very different, but where they border each other- it get very confusing….

      • Anonymous says:

        It is simplified because it is simple. Where arrives complexity arrives delusion. I have no need nor desire to delude myself. I prefer to envelope myself in reality. I understand that you cannot do the same though and this is ok.

        I do see a “big red line” (rather comical) between escorts and SugarBabies. I would never become confused on this. Again, I understand this is not within your capability, and this is ok also.

      • rembodler says:

        Hahaha…. But understanding that you are a condescending depressed prick is totally within my ability…
        Have a nice evening – just do not drink yourself to death!

      • Anonymous says:

        Last text of lady humps, goes out to @ Mr. cryptic, lmao Cruptic indeed. Shit, he put to be thankful that we are not saying that this goes out to althoemers or arthritics for hi age. For real bro, grow a few and understand that many you call atheistic can duck you sideways from Sunday and still keep a line o SB’s, if they knew what that’s. Offered. You are clueless bro.

      • Anonymous says:

        Fuxk an a…allow me to rephrase…Many. That you state are arthritis as challenged, based on age, could run circles around you, based on what they bring to the table. Not only sexually, but also financially. Which indeed makes the younger SB (over 25), laugh at your nonsense. Some o these men are so well kept and so well endowed, along with old school values and courtesy, as well as financial compensation, in a trio that is the opitomy of only what you yourself would accept from a younger doe. Yet, you throw it off as a bih-gone that the older generation cannot provide and only an uneducated at times and then super educated at times, Ina fake can provide. You contradict yourself so much that the sway of the party, sways without you and stopes castin their vote on your favor, yours or for your pitiful sake, even in your direction. Stand for something, or keep falling for anything. The rest o us know how to handle real life
        situations. The character that comes with it, baby boy, we are purring in extacsy. Why don’t you start licking until you find you some.

      • baby monkey says:

        Rem you would be very easy to manipulate with a bit of ruse by some brainless actress. when i said these gold diggers don’t want to marry? lol i thought it was obvious, but some men are very easy in this matter, still.

      • Anonymous says:

        Hahahahaha remolder got OWNED…….

      • baby monkey says:

        and i didn’t see anything depressive in anonymous, rem please don’t project yourself in other users boy

    • n0name says:

      “Either u r someone who is genuinely interested in knowing someone and then you do not need any money” ROFL … it is an arrangement site, not a juliet seeks useless romeo site….

      • Anonymous says:

        And who said Romeo had to be useless? But I’m probably asking a plumber how to do electrical wiring.

      • TVC 15 says:

        Of course he wasn’t. He was wealthy & titled, & married the girl. :)

      • Anonymous says:

        And they both ended up dead, but I guess it’s better to die trying.

      • TVC 15 says:

        That was all a misunderstanding. 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        They got suck in traffic, they certainly did not die in traffic. They were cofnizant to half ass pull over. You must sit in mid traffic. However, if two people were to shimmer and shine in traffic and run down the lane…ummm, do you real think they would get run over? Lmao, I doubt it. They would just make prime time news. So, come with something better, @Rem.

      • Anonymous says:

        Shyit, it is about time this BBW, that weighs more than anyone who has known her, has ever seen and still tells her she is “fine” and “doesn’t get herself”, considering she still weighs less than everyone’s wife she knows. But to her, it is lost bc it is ore pregnancy weight and the gates to she has ever know and yet men still vye for her pictures. Apparently, she is too damn hard on herself and the blog makes her hate herself more because it influences that only boys would want a gay SB boy figure. While a straight man says, I knew you prior and now and I will take you with curves and all and love up on your sexy luscious lady humps. Because personality wise and sexually, I liked you then, as I do now. It is rare, but fuck your closed minded circumstances of ignorance. Hear and watch me roar as I change this dynamic that you shun. Shit just got real. Good day to you, Mr. dyslexic.

    • Anonymous says:

      No problem taking as much time as is required. I actually like that myself, but as you say, I will not pay her an allowance for it.

  115. Anonymous says:

    n0name and TVC are again at their rinsing promotion…
    Most sane people would not waste money on just wining and dining random women if they have no intent on arrangement. If you went on such a date, with “a punter with no intention” it is you who is an idiot. Accept your loss and move on. Next time, be smarter. A man, especially if he is such a punter would and should laugh at your offer at compensation for your time…
    But than, as we well know, the closest TVC and n0name came to having anything male in their bed, was Teddy The Bear…

    • n0name says:

      Better teddy the bear than some useless type below minimal or a fraud wanting a “relationship” …. guys make this fundamental mistake thinking girls crave sex as much as they do; No, I would not mind a good level of real practical care, then I might put up with what the guy wants. I do not fancy poisoning myself with the pill to pleasurise a useless twat. Not short of offers to get laid, but actually I am not into xbox boys who live with parents or any suchlike useless equivalent, which includes older persons experiencing midlife crisis … only they failed to set up a blind trust for frolics to alleviate :/

      • Anonymous says:

        Can you imagine ^^something like that to hold an interest of a man with a college degree for more then “like, 5min, like, lol”?
        I don’t think so either.

      • n0name says:

        Oddly enough, it can be hard job to get them move on on time …. … but maybe those degrees suffered certain dumbing down …. or there are many more undiagnosed early altzeimers should be patients …. they should remember to treasure the PA who keeps the diary and the junior who does all the work :p

      • Sugar D says:

        @nOno
        guys make this fundamental mistake thinking girls crave sex as much as they do

        +1

        I’ve found that to be true. We ASS ume a lot of things but most girls I’ve met over the years associate sexual desire with either mind altering drugs/alcohol ,or emotional attraction. If they are into you emotionally then they are up for sex and might even enjoy it . If not it is a chore to be gotten through .

    • TVC 15 says:

      You forgot the cat.

    • Anonymous says:

      TVC and noBrains are everything that is wrong with the blog and sugar in general.

      Why would I pay a SB to meet me for what is basically an interview? If the SB is genuine than she knows she will have to invest a little bit of time into it and meet a few SD’s, not for sex, not for anything other than chatting over a coffee or a drink for an hour or so to see if there is any chemistry.

      Fuck paying them to turn up and fuck paying for their gas or travel. They are hoping to get paid for this, they can show how serious they are by not expecting to get paid for the get to know you stage. A serious and genuine woman understands this and also it takes the pressure of her as well.

      It’s the rinsers who play it for as long as they can and then run off without ever providing anything in return.

      Best way to ward off the rinsers and fakes, state clearly in the messaging stage – No money until arrangement agreed upon and consummated.

      Save yourself time and money. Spare suffer the fools.

      • TVC 15 says:

        At least I’m concise.

      • n0name says:

        “Interview”? Dream on

      • Anonymous says:

        Keep thinking like that. If you’re not willing to make an effort, why should she? Forgot this is a sugar daddy site?

      • Anonymous says:

        “Fuck paying them to turn up and fuck paying for their gas or travel.”

        Part of that I have to disagree with. Some of these girls are in a very bad way. Asking them to pay for their own gas/travel is unreasonable. It’s pocket change for us but could break the bank for them. It’s no big shit.

        In an ideal world, I would pay girls to meet too for the same reason BUTTTT too many girls out there try to make a living that way so unfortunately the good ones have to suffer because of that.

        But the travel? I have and always will pay for that part. My conscience wouldn’t sit well with me if I didn’t.

        If you’re going to be in an arrangement with a woman from a different class level (which is mostly every woman you will meet on here), you have to try to understand where she’s coming from.

        To do anything else is to just look at her as a piece of meat and not even human. You can just use hookers if you have no desire to get to know someone. Again no big shit.

      • Anonymous says:

        Oh boo fucking hoo Anon.

        I don’t request women to meet me who are out of town so it is just a train fare at best. If they can’t even afford that then there is a serious problem.

        What do you want me to do, hand them $3? Come on!

        And noBrain, it is an interview, it is YOU who wants the money, so impress.

    • Anonymous says:

      TVC and noBrains are everything that is wrong with the blog and sugar in general.

      Why would I pay a SB to meet me for what is basically an interview? If the SB is genuine than she knows she will have to invest a little bit of time into it and meet a few SD’s, not for sex, not for anything other than chatting over a coffee or a drink for an hour or so to see if there is any chemistry.

      Fuck paying them to turn up and fuck paying for their gas or travel. They are hoping to get paid for this, they can show how serious they are by not expecting to get paid for the get to know you stage. A serious and genuine woman understands this and also it takes the pressure of her as well.

      It’s the rinsers who play it for as long as they can and then run off without ever providing anything in return.

      Best way to ward off the rinsers and fakes, state clearly in the messaging stage – No money until arrangement agreed upon and consummated.

      Save yourself time and money. Don’t suffer the fools.

      • n0name says:

        Perhaps washed out wannabe interviewers are the fools, like anyone needs an extra sh*tty boss paying minimum wage or not even paying and asking for trial rides 😀

      • Anonymous says:

        Well have fun then noBrain. I know you don’t get anywhere on here.

  116. Bhoover93 says:

    Any advice for a new SB that lives in a very rural area, and very little potentials altogether?

    • Anonymous says:

      Move? Try and do what a lot of female SB’s do and offer webcam shows? Not sure how much luck they really have though.

      • Bhoover93 says:

        True story, though I’m like you, wonder how much luck the webcam shows actually have hahaha.

      • Anonymous says:

        The mistake a lot of the girls offering webcam only make is they expect to get the same amount as women who are offering actual sex.

        You have to weight it all up, a webcam show means obviously no touching and also the woman doesn’t even have to leave her house, so it has to be cheaper than a lap dance and a lot cheaper than sex.

        If they added all of that into the equation they could make a fortune for doing nothing more than stripping for a few minutes for some guy who is watching and pulling himself.

      • TVC 15 says:

        Weigh up whether the money you will make is worth having those image on the internet forever.

      • Anonymous says:

        +1 TVC

      • Bhoover93 says:

        But that’s if they weight all of that. I like to think I’m smarter than that but then again most times I’m mistaken. You never know I suppose, but that is something I could try. I mean just living in such a rural area, makes meeting people tougher, but then maybe at the same time I don’t ” sell ” myself well enough. The world may never know haha

  117. Bruce Wayne says:

    I had lunch with a pot SB today. It went ok – nothing spectacular. I drove about 40 minutes to meet her at the restaurant she selected. When we walked out, she informed me that I needed to give her $100 for the time she spent getting ready and having lunch with me. I told her she needed to voice that expectation when we set the date. Ironically, I was going to hand her $60 before she said that.

    • rembodler says:

      Same here.
      If an SB asks to be paid for a dinner date, I always say my goodbyes. Having said that I always give a $50-60 gift card to an SB who have not asked.

    • n0name says:

      I’d ask for petrol, if they failed to produce anything at all by the time of the good byes, especially if they want to paw with that… In fact, I’d ask even guys from “normal” sites to fill a tank, especially if they are not any kind of a prospect …. as in looking for normal dates etc etc

    • n0name says:

      It is a lot of time to prepare and get to the place and sit there for a couple of hours …. if it is clear they are testing out midlife crisis, just in case someone got madly in love with them, but then, no they do not really want that either …. they might at least come up with a nice gift …

      • Sugar D says:

        @nOno At a M&G you are on a job interview and need to put your best foot forward-plus some other selected body parts . @Rem and others are super nice to give a gift card in addition to a fine dinner .Your arrogant attitude will not win the day when it comes to Sugar acquisition .

      • n0name says:

        I am not looking for a tired bossy type either, might at least get a tank of petrol for attendance :p Most of them were not looking for an arrangement, a kind of pro bono affair. Which is fine, if they compensate for waste of time on my part.

      • TVC 15 says:

        My understanding is that n0name feels there should be compensation for time wasted by punters with no intention of ever entering into an arrangement. I heartily concur, but how likely is it?

      • n0name says:

        Highly likely, in my neck of the woods, they would mostly oblige; obviously it would not be a request to “compensate” but more like help out a damsel in distress …. one has to devise way to discourage ineligible dross. I’d agree to meet about anyone in a safe public place 😀 lol One way to get dem vaguely balanced meals tickets 😉

      • TVC 15 says:

        I dislike asking. I think a gentleman will offer.

      • n0name says:

        If they are a gentleman.

      • Anonymous says:

        Ladies wouldn’t whore themselves out in the first place.

  118. Anonymous says:

    Funniest profile of the day, too bad it doesn’t add up. What are YOUR numbers?

    e31b38541

    • Anonymous says:

      SA has been advertising on “thedirty dot com” so they are getting all these young douche bags on here that are more than likely $30k millionaires. I decided.

      • elaine says:

        That’s exactly what we needed….. :-(

      • Anonymous says:

        Steady increase of younger males (20s) on here for about 8-10 months. This site is ripe for getting free pussy if you’re in your 20s

      • Anonymous says:

        With age, one realizes that there isn’t such thing as “free pussy”. I mean, here and there, but there is always a price to pay. I am sure a young stud Cornell frat president was getting a lot of free pussy. Except that sometimes free pussy backfires and suddenly you are not so hot no more.

      • Anonymous says:

        I’ve been finding it easier as I get older to attract good looking women whether they be in my age group or younger. The young guys joining up here are a God send actually as they highlight the difference been maturity and the Nintendo crowd.

    • n0name says:

      Looks like he got some award …. actually probably not bad marriage material locally, if someone can straighten him up 😀 😀

    • n0name says:

      Clearly not any kind of an SD though …. but if he is making that money from his businesses at 23 for real …. could be he had a “small loan” and not entirely stupid … does not look like a down and out type … one cannot expect young males to be intelligent in many various ways …. he is fit and maybe good at IT, not entirely ugly …. hhhmmm that is a lot for a male as it is 😀 😀 Hopefully he still has a pair of clued up parents who are not total jerks.

      • Anonymous says:

        Not a bad guy but obviously a bullshitter. Marketing himself on his age and using shaming tactics to go along with that. Has a lot of energy. Might make something of himself someday if he gives shit games like this up

      • n0name says:

        What guy is not a bullshitter though? 😀 😀

      • Sugar D says:

        He is a Sugar Boy and probably like most 23 yr olds-addicted to X Box and partying .

        But if he has the dough to pay an allowance he can get in the game just like the rest of us creepy old dudes running around behind the wife’s back. His Abs look Photo shopped . IDK about you guys ,but I don’t envy 8 packs or desire them on my SBs. It’s a little too extreme. A teeny bit of silky skin covering a toned body is just fine.

      • n0name says:

        UK guys very very very rarely have any intention whatsoever of paying allowances lol. Some are more honest than others and they are looking for a “partner”. Translate = pump and dump.

      • TVC 15 says:

        A relayayayayshionship

  119. SD experience in numbers says:

    How to avoid overheating

    This post may resonate more with single SD’s that prefer longer-term sugar relationships (which I understand is the exception here), but here goes.

    Scenario: You did a thorough search, made a careful selection, and started a new sugar relationship that you hope will last for maybe years. You made it clear that this is a SD/SB relationship that will remain so until it ends, however long it lasts. Allowance and meeting frequency are settled, and there is wonderful chemistry going on. What is the problem then?

    The problem, for single SD’s who prefer monogamy, is that the “hope” that the sugar relationship may evolve into something more permanent is *impossible* to eliminate from a SB’s mind. The irony is that this can enhance the quality of the relationship greatly, as the SB is investing more of herself to make the SD happy. However, there are two serious risks for letting that happen:

    1. If left unchecked, it will gradually lead to tension and drama that will end the relationship on less than amicable terms.

    2. Enjoying the ride would be borderline dishonest on the SD’s part, since he enjoys extra care based on false hopes. The *best* part of sugar relationships is how upfront and equitable they are.

    With that said, I would appreciate practical tips on how to avoid this overheating *without spoiling the rapport* of the relationship. There are obvious things like tactfully reiterating the ground rules when these symptoms occur, but maybe the esteemed posters here can add other tips based on their experience or wisdom.

    • Anonymous says:

      This may or may not work for you, but I have a set expiration date for all arrangements, no exceptions. Start looking for a replacement before you cut her out though, or you might end up getting weak-kneed.

      You can’t keep them around too long. The longer you keep them around, the higher their hopes get. I’ve found that one to three months works best for me. I wouldn’t suggest you push it passed the three or four month mark unless the only thing you have going for you is your wealth. Then I would say you might be able to push it to about six months but anything over that is just asking for trouble.

      • SD experience in numbers says:

        @Anonymous

        Thank you for your input. I certainly see the merit in what you are saying, and it does apply to perhaps the majority of men who like variety more than they like stability. I don’t mean marriage-stability, I mean 1+ year relationships. For me, these longer relationships have a quality to them that beats high-frequency variety. They reach a level of comfort that is great for the soul.

        I appreciate that you took the time to share your views.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        1-3 months? How exhausting.

      • elaine says:

        @SDexp.

        I can try to tell you how it worked for me in diverse LT arrangements, but I have to say these men were married, so that’s different.

        But ok, here’s my 2 cents from the female POV.

        What I found is that clarity and clear borders from the beginning worked best.
        My most successful arrangement last already 2 years and the success factor is to keep a certain emotional distance, we have great times together, but are not involved in each other emotional lives.
        I mean, we talk a lot about everything, but certain (emotional) topics we avoid. As an example; we discuss business related problems but never private ones.

        This clear borders avoid feelings of love to develop.
        There is physical attraction, friendship, trust and good sex. We enjoy each others company, but there is no jealousy or drama,
        When it is time to move on, we will part as friends.

        I think also non exclusivity helps to not get too attached. As do strict agreements on when exactly to meet (only 1 or 2 x per week) and not too much communication inbetween.

        Two times it went completely wrong, we both got too much attached and looking back, that happened because we didn’t kept emotional distance.
        We shared to much of our deepest feelings, we had emotional discussions and shared too much of our private lives.
        Those were the 2 arrangements that didn’t last longer as 6 months.
        Drama developed and the goodbye was painful.

        Knowing the female mind, it will not be easy to find females to understand this concept and being capable to not develop “hope”.
        It just goes against our nature.

        The reason I am able to do it has to do with having my life in order, not wanting a “full-time” man, not being financial dependent and most of all: my age and experience.

        But in 95% of the cases, the borders and clarity will have to come from you, the male.
        We are just wired differently and most women just can’t, especially after a while they get too attached to a men they spend so much time and intimacy with and who enhances so much her lifestyle.

        Succes!

      • Sugar D says:

        Date a married man -period. I make it clear from the start that I am married and that ending that marriage is not an option . Within that structure I enjoy expressing love and affection with my Baby-not just sex . My Fav long term SB (1 1/2 yrs) always told me when I fantasied about a more “permanent ” relationship that she would NEVER -EVER be able to bring me into her real life. At the same time she would tell me she loves me. It was always a perfect combination . I love you –but

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @SugarD I don’t think dating a married man would work for him…

      • Sugar D says:

        well @ Jay ,it is a gay topic LOL . I can’t keep track of who is a what sex.

      • elaine says:

        @SugarD

        I hope you see the difference in real life! 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        @SD experience

        No problem, but I don’t do that because I like variety. I’m more of a stability slash predictability guy. I’ve just learned that you cannot keep them around any longer than that or you end up hurting them. I don’t want to hurt anyone, so I’m more or less forced to do it this way.

        I’ve had longer arrangements, one lasting over four years, another over two years. Both of those women ended up very hurt when it was time for *me* to move on. I don’t want to put anyone (or even myself) through that again.

        This works better for everyone. When I see them beginning to hook on, I just give them a gentle nudge in the opposite direction. It’s a lot easier on them.

        I know someone will say, “You do this because it’s a lot easier on *you*”, no, it’s really not. I wish it was.

        It’s been my experience that it’s impossible for women not to fall in love. I think that’s asking something unnatural from a woman, but if you can somehow manage this then I highly commend you.

      • Anonymous says:

        It’s getting too hard to tell the difference in real life between sexes. I’ve given up. When I think it’s a girl it turns out to be a guy. When I think it’s a guy it turns out to be a girl. I just give up on this shit

      • SD experience in numbers says:

        @elaine

        Wonderful message. I appreciate your thoughtfulness.

        The two salient tips is that *I* need to take the lead in keeping the boundaries, and that discussing intimate feelings is risky.

        Thank you.

      • SD experience in numbers says:

        @Anonymous (who talked about hurting the SB’s feelings)

        Excellent point, and it does resonate with my experience in previous SD/SB relationships. The only thing I would add is that a break-up that happens when things heat up too much, but is done tactfully and respectfully, can lead later to getting back together with clearer understanding of the boundaries and with the benefit of the already developed rapport and comfort. Happened to me only once so I cannot tell how typical this is.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        “It’s been my experience that it’s impossible for women not to fall in love. I think that’s asking something unnatural from a woman,”

        LOL What a crock…

    • CaribBoutiqueOwner says:

      Simple, be upfront with you sugar baby, give her the freedom to have her own life but spoil her so much that she never wants to leave you. Therefore she will not feel forced, it will alway be her decision and even if she meets someone somewhat interesting, he wouldn’t be much competition. It’s a win win!

    • Jaybird923 says:

      @SD Experience Not all women are looking for marriage and to settle down. I’m not but I do prefer monogamous long term. Find someone who wants you in their life but doesn’t need you. I think dependency breeds the desire to make you a permanent provider.

      • SD experience in numbers says:

        @Jaybird923

        This is certainly a good way of doing it. I have found it difficult to ascertain, though. Sometimes the girl approaches the sugar relationship with the right boundaries first, then a phase transition happens at some point.

        Even simplistic rules like choosing a SB in her early 20’s so she is not concerned with marriage yet, or choosing a SB in her mid 30’s so she is mature enough for a sugar relationship, are far from being full proof.

        I guess the difficulty is that people sometimes change their goals depending on the person they are with. The irony is that the better the match turns out to be, the more likely that things will head in that direction.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Weakness is usually why arrangements transition into something else. yes you set boundaries but when those boundaries are tested/crossed if you don’t put your foot down you give the other party permission to keep crossing the line.

        At the first sign of intrusive questions, jealousy,drama,etc. You say something instead of giving them a pass you stop it before it goes any further. It always starts small and get bigger. A simple ” we agreed ___ is off limits if that no longer works for you I understand. We can end things now, no hard feelings”

        It’s shows you’re serious about the boundaries you both agreed to and that you’re willing to walk away if they try any more nonsense.

      • SD experience in numbers says:

        @Jaybird923

        Good point. Let me suggest a slight variation. The SD certainly needs to act if the SB crosses the agreed boundaries. However, often times this is done gradually and is not crystal clear whether it is a manifestation of a “moment of affection” or part of a master plan. I think the SD should give some benefit of the doubt in order not to spoil the flow of the relationship, and act proportionally if things continue in the wrong direction. It may be playing with fire, and the SD would certainly be walking a thin line, but perhaps it is worth the extra effort and the extra risk.

        Having said that, I am the one who came here for advice, so it could be that my natural approach is not well advised. :-)

      • Jaybird923 says:

        You natural approach is the problem lol that’s what I mean infractions always start small it gets bigger over time every time you let something slip by it gives them license to keep pushing the envelope.

        Also your desire to not rock the boat is what I mean by weakness. It’s always easier than to confront issues head on but when you do that you end up in the situations you’re seeking advice to correct.

        One of two things will happen if presented with the statement I posted before either she’ll straighten up or she’ll walk either way you avoid what you don’t want…the emotional hassle when you end things.

    • HoustonGirl* says:

      Find someone that is married.

      In my experience I have found a lot of men that like the fact that I am married. They know upfront that I am never going to leave my husband and therefor do not have to worry about me getting too emotionally evolved.

      • HoustonGirl* says:

        *involved

      • SD experience in numbers says:

        This will certainly help, and is somewhat similar to the SD himself being married, because this largely eliminates other possibilities in the sugar relationship.

        In my case, I am monogamous. This is not a moral statement; it is just what I actually enjoy and am comfortable with. This is why my sugar relationships are more vulnerable to “overheating”.

        Thank you for your response.

  120. rembodler says:

    I think the news that “SA is dead” is premature. So are constant lamenting that SA lost its class, that all SA female members are hookers (especially funny that when coming from women, I simply love that conviction that except for her, the Princess, the rest on SA are escorts and cheap P4P barflies).
    As three years ago, I still find it necessary to write 20some women to score a couple of dates. I still think it is a worthwhile process because what comes in the end of it are normal intelligent pretty young women. You find a good one, you treat her well – all your efforts are paid off. You just have to have a bit of common sense and in the end you will have what you want. Obviously, there are unrealistic expectations on both sides. But I found that a woman with unrealistic expectations could be pretty easily spotted from the getgo, in the course of a couple of hours chit chat. You tell her goodbye and you go back to the search engine.

    • NYCBrownBaby says:

      No female on here is calling themselves the princess. I HATE THAT WORD SO MUCH . ITS OVERUSED AND TIRED….. . Whenever a SB wants to point out an issue abt something . she’s a princess , she feels entitled BLAH BLAH BLAH . smh save it . Maybe the ugly has not hit u has yet .The fact is for men u get approached by escorts and a couple a pros and then u can move on .

      For the SBs we have to deal with harassment both on SA and off . I have had issues where a john screenshot my profile and placed it on some exposed woman website and was trying to blackmail me out of 500.00 lmao
      ( this was like 2 years ago , when SA was not a mainstream thing) . Alot of other girls have dealt with worse . Pimps on here recruiting sex workers , human sex trafficking , scamming , Pic collecters who get off on just u giving them access to your pics .

      No one on this forum is a princess. If she is pointing out an issue that she or a fellow SB is having nor do i believe any SB here is so caught up with herself that she thinks she is a diamond in the ruff . cut the entitlement insults .

      SBs and SDs have COMPLETELY different experiences on SA . It’s time both of us accept the differences and not bash anyone because the reality of it all is no SB on here aint no Princess and No SD on here is no BRUCE WAYNE . FACTS

      BAN THE Word PRINCESS ON THE FORUM!!!! ugh lol

      • Anonymous says:

        @NYC
        Actually, I was not aiming that at you, certainly not most of it. Maybe except for the lamenting part…;)). You sound very reasonable, I agree with a lot of what you said.
        It is always possible to have a bad experience with online dating. But I think this is as true for SA as for “Christian Mingles” or whatnot. Men will always be looking for sex, whether or not they can “afford it”. And I would not pile up pimps and sex traffickers together with picture collectors. One is a serious crime while the other is weird and annoying, but pretty benign.

      • NYCBrownBaby says:

        @Anonymous Exactly thats all i was trying to say . Maybe too reasonable lol. Didn’t take it too personal was just making a statement. everyone’s experience is different. u should check out the reviews for SA.com n u could get an understanding of what everyone is going through . Online Dating u gonna end up with a lot of nonsense overall . I just think that SA has gotten so famous that there are 10 different niches that dont belong here . last SD said he was reading a bloomberg report about money distribution in relationships and SA was apart of it . thats how he learned while others caught the mini documentaries , the dr phil show , the bethenny show on youtube . No one can find the real sb and sd . then those who are genuine get swept up in the game

      • Anonymous says:

        “And I would not pile up pimps and sex traffickers together with picture collectors.”

        One in the same. A lot of the pic collectors collect pics to scam other guys. I don’t think people realize how much illegal shit is happening on this website……

      • NYCBrownBaby says:

        yep . a whole bunch of stuff is happening including underage girls who claim that they are 18 but actually 16 n want to live life like kylie jenner lol. Eventually SA will get caught up in something they can’t handle. same thing happened to CraigL.com they set up a system , implement clauses even disclaimers. if SA does not get smart they will be trouble down the line

      • Anonymous says:

        “No woman on here is calling herself a princess.”

        Within 25 miles of my town there are 193 profiles with the word “princess” in them. None of them say, “I am not a princess.”

    • Josh says:

      You’re correct. There aren’t any princesses on the blog but there are tons in the profiles. :)

    • sugar baby monkey says:

      what you are saying is ridiculous, because there are not normal women in SA, ok what you call ‘normal woman’ perhaps is the typical prostitute who is studying in a college and what you call not normal, should be the prostitute that her only activity is being a prostitute. then in SA you just will find prostitutes of many types of course but prostitutes after all

    • Anonymous says:

      There are a lot easier ways to get pictures to “scam” guys than doing it thru SA…

      • Anonymous says:

        Not if you want the right type of pics from the right types of girls. This is the best place out there

  121. Anonymous says:

    i find it funny how sbs complain how there are no Sds on that blog. There are no SBs on that blog, I will tell you, or at least very few. Do you really think that obnoxious idiot n0name can get a man in bed with her? She is just a troll. And yes, she makes another idiot, TVC, look smart. none of them are SBs, that is for certain. And they dispense advice as if they know shit…

  122. Sugar Baby says:

    Im a new Sugar Baby on here but I dont want a sexual relationship, can anybody give me some tips on anything at all, really?

    • With a Bow on Top says:

      Sigh.

    • With a Bow on Top says:

      This is definitely not the place for platonic arrangement help. Hahah.

    • NYCBrownBaby says:

      Not bashing u or crushing your dreams . There is a small chance of that happening here. If you are not ready to have sex in a SD relationship because u think its prostitution or its morally wrong to you but you want the benefits of an SD . Don’t force yourself to find a SD at this point . I was once like u in the beginning and i did not join the sugar bowl because of the very reason i gave earlier. Once you’re mentally ready then thats when u will open up fully to the sugar universe and the sugar gods will bless you . Since u are new. Please do your research on both sides . Check tumblr search sugar baby and u can skim through the results ( i don’t care what anyone wants to say there is advice there to protect a lot of new SBs , SO SUCK IT). Do a lot of research on what the men are saying as well . u can google “how to be a sugar daddy forums ” and you’ll see the good and bad of these men.. This will let you know how to approach a situation . that’s all i got to say. may the sugar gods forever be in your favour.

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        @NYC you are too nice. I dont even have the energy to give newbie SBs like that advice anymore because its not worth it. Those are the ones that live in the delusion that you’ll get something for nothing. You’re better than me that is for sure.

      • NYCBrownBaby says:

        @BOW i was once like her so i feel where she is coming from. i could smell the innocence from a mile away couldn’t turn my back lol.

    • Josh says:

      @Sugar Baby

      Don’t let the naysayers discourage you. Know your worth and demand to be respected as a princess, nay queen, you are.

      Dang I did say “nay” myself…sorry. 😉

    • Anonymous says:

      I have a tip for you…….. get the fuck out of here and go home

    • Anonymous says:

      Don’t feel pressured into anything, ease into the arrangement just like any adult relationship but one step at a time. If he wants full load sex in exchange of money, he’s not worth your time.

  123. NYCBrownBaby says:

    A large amount of SDs here and SBs think that sugar dating is Pay 4 Play and that is what SA is turning into. A new backpage for quick sex n cash . Those who are looking for One steady SB and SD are hopelessly searching to find each other through the mess. If there is any SDs and SBs on the site left they are lost in the sugar universe trying to find each other .

    There are forums out there beside here , dedicated to SA for guys who want to trick girls into having sex with no allowance and string them along as long as possible without giving anything in return . These forums get 1000 hits a day because lets be honest every guy wants to fuck and they’re looking for the easiest way to do it without having a gf and going out at bars to try and pick up a chick for a One night stand which result in rejection . SA , OKC , T*inder all sites that make it somewhat easier to get a bang

    Women use these sites to look for rich guys cuz all women wouldn’t mind marrying into money and that’s the truth. There are forums dedicated to girls rinsing , gold digging and how to escort using these platforms. SA has lost its way and they know this. That’s why they are trying to create new websites every other day . There is no “barrier to entry” anyone can join and that’s what causing the problem . You got underage girls here , pros , tag teams lol , men who are into sex slaves and the list goes on ….. too many niches smh . How are you suppose to find a real SB and SD . Doesn’t make any sense

    • Anonymous says:

      “Those who are looking for One steady SB and SD are hopelessly searching to find each other through the mess.”

      Hopelessly is correct. Some enjoy repeating the definition of insanity over and over again. The rest of us have just decided to become monks and forget the whole thing.

      “There are forums out there beside here , dedicated to SA for guys who want to trick girls into having sex with no allowance and string them along as long as possible without giving anything in return .”

      Wish there was just a forum where I could meet a woman who wanted to put some effort into something haha.

      SA, OkC, PoF, Match, it’s all the same. Just a steady program of narcissistic women looking to take advantage of you in one way or another.

      Now…. where’s my goblet??????

  124. FedUpAnon says:

    You can only report five people a day, WTF? I have spotted 5 fake pics today, and now an underage profile. Too bad, I can’t report it :-(

    I have just made a perverts day :-(

    • Anonymous says:

      Don’t waste your time. Most of the girls on here are fakes in one way or another. Just report the minors for their own safety.

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      Hey FedUp!

      Dont be dismayed!
      Dont be discouraged!
      DONT GIVE UP!!!

      Launch a boots-on-the-ground, grassroots campaign, and fight for change!

      Report 5 fake profiles a day for the next 200,000 days, and youll have eradicated 1,000,000 fake/illegitimate profiles 😀

      Dont think youll live another 548 years?! Dont be so pessimistic! Enlist a few friends or 5000, and wipe out an entire fleet of shadesters in no time :)

      Si se puede!

    • Sugar D says:

      Minors? How do you know ? Did they actually put their age at under 18 ?

  125. sugarbaby says:

    how many pictures should i put on my profile?

  126. Katy B says:

    in terms of payment, how does it work? are you paid before or after a date. is it cash or transfer?

  127. Anonymous says:

    N0name makes TVC seem like a fucking genius.

  128. With a Bow on Top says:

    I agree with @Anonymous. I personally don’t mind sex being a part of an arrangement but sex isn’t going to be a part of an arrangement without an allowance. Everyone is different though and has their own reasons. Many have been burned due to rinsers/game players/etc so they think P4P is the best route to go.

  129. FedUpAnon says:

    Typical profile:

    About Me

    18. This world is merely a hive and I am the one and only queen Bee.

    What I’m looking for

    No intention on going on a date.

    • Cryptic anomaly says:

      The SBs should have to pay to join. Allowing them to join for free encourages all these scammers and time wasters. They can sign on and post crap and it goes good matter to them as they haven’t invested anything.

      In turn SDs get less patient and are less willing to invest time and money in getting to know SBs.

      Cause and effect.

      • keiti says:

        I didn’t pay cause I don’t know if it is worth it. It doesn’t mean I am a flake

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        Thats exactly how [sugardaddie.com] is set up and I never had any luck on their for the 6 months i used it on and off.

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        Same shit different toilet. It doesn’t you’re going to deal with it either way.

      • Anonymous says:

        @ Cryptic

        I disagree. Yes, there are time wasters and that goes for all sexes. But, for the single moms that look hot, are not time wasters and are making ends meet barely as it is and joined the site, that cuts this market out. For young newbies, who have student loans and are just starting out and have no extra spare change on expenditures, you just cut this market out. Now, if your game plan is going for the successful, already established SB’s who keep men in rotation, you have a market base. Forge successful woman, already established in her career and wants a fu** buddy, you have targeted this market then. For the older crowd who still sugars, same algorithms apply but different scenario in the process, same outcome. You either cut them off or cut them in based on financials.

        If women who are “down on their luck”, “looking to come up”, “looking to maintain”, or “looking to upgrade”. So what is the real target market here? Everyone being treated equal and all of us have to work and grind on a dime? Or only the pros and established ones already?

      • Anonymous says:

        If sugardaddie.com is set up that way, then you already have a base to start with. The female payers are players, or they keep their accounts long enough and close them once they can provide or find an established man to provide for them, long term. Or, they hustle and keep their options open. It is no different than common sense. Or, they stay on, like the men and know they will work whatever comes their way (if it works) and keeps their avenues open. No different than a business taking on more than one customer in order to ensure that is they ever lose their main client/bread winner, that they will inevitably, no go under.

        I do not understand why so many SB’s get so much slack for this. Considering, men does this I a. Regular basis because they are business minded. It is called Customer Service.

        Either you are polite and serve (all parties included here) or you do not, and your competition takes
        your clientele. The problem from each side is when the man is loaded and he doesn’t serve and says “next” and same with the female, she thinks she is so hot that she will not lose and te man says “next”. It is not a racial debate, it is not a financial debate. It is one where respect is key and if you pair a p4p aggressive man with a woman who desires an old school Ed/SB relationship of ethical “respect” without delving in due diligence of what each party needs, you lose after a short term stent of “attempt” and “loss of funds/energy”.

      • Anonymous says:

        SD/SB relationship, not Ed/SB.

      • NYCBrownBaby says:

        @Anon SD.com is the biggest scam lol profiles are fake , they generate messages from profiles automatically to you .too much Nigerian and Credit Card scams lol .Brings back memories when i just started sugaring . Definitely not worth it . Unfortunately SA is the only website that has an awesome modern layout and does not look like its servers are running from the cyber internet

      • TVC 15 says:

        If I had to pay, there is no way I would be on the site. A lot of women are the same. That’s why bars have ladies’ nights and that’s why it’s free for SBs to join. You think it’s tough to find a good SB now, this place would be a desert if we had to pay.

      • Sugar D says:

        Girls should’t pay -period. I would rather filter through the time wasters but still have all the real SBs in the mix . The filtering process is time consuming but kind of fun and a challenge .

        I recently signed up on SDie dot com and was shocked at the number of scammers there . Really hot profiles attach their email address in the text. When responding they require you to sign up on a “free” dating app that captures your contact and CC info .Go Phish.

        We are lucky on SA since it is the most pure of 5 or 6 sites that I have used over the years .

  130. NYCBrownBaby says:

    An issue that i have seen on SA every since the new year . Men as young as 19 on here looking for SB and a huge increase in guys who make 50 k a year…. what the hell is going on with that . Then they offer pay 4 play …….. smh. this site has gotten too mainstream n will implode on itself

    • n0name says:

      Perhaps “platonic” is the natural response to that non-SD explosion

      • NYCBrownBaby says:

        MHMMM that maybe true . SBs basically strategizing against all these none SDs who are just looking to bang. PLATONIC is our only defense.

      • Anonymous says:

        1. Never accept pay 4 players. They are basically pump and dumpers. Monthly allowance or it’s a no go. I am sure most aren’t interested in a $200 per meet.
        2. Don’t stress on the intimate part much. If you’re not comfortable having sex at first, tell him. If he pushes for it, next him. You should not be pressured into anything. This should develop naturally.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Anon – you are obviously an idiot and have no slightest clue what you are talking about. There are certainly fewer SDs than SBs. If you demand money upfront, the guy will simply block you and go to the next one.

      • NYCBrownBaby says:

        @Anonymous there are more girls that boys here , that is true . Men don’t like to get to the point . They want to dance around the conversation because they don’t want to feel like they are buying coochie . You have to ease in the topic of allowance . Take it off SA , talk about what you’re looking for , what does he do, has he had any experience with being a SD before and that would come up . If he is not responsive at that initial stage he has no interest or is a phony .

        FOR THE OTHER ANON

        I know better now not to do P4P . I only do allowance. I love sex lol and is more than happy to do it with a SD that i am attracted to.

        MEN feel pressured in a lot of situations in life . lol . Pressured to marry the girl, pressured into a serious relationship , pressured in starting a committed SB relationship and giving allowance lol and the list goes on . In every scenario , a woman should try to ease in the conversation to not scare away the man . it’s just how i see things .

    • With a Bow on Top says:

      @NYCBB yep. They’ve ruined a good thing. I almost kind of think there should be an invitation only Sugar site. Verified SDs and SBs only.

      • NYCBrownBaby says:

        Yeah but true SDs will never do it . They have too much to lose . They want to keep everything private . Thats what high end matchmaking services are for . There are a very few real SDs on this site . I don’t think that there are men on SA who are multi-millionaires (this is just my opinion) but there are men who make a good amount of money and get bored and this is what SA is for.

      • Sugar D says:

        @NYCBB
        In every scenario , a woman should try to ease in the conversation to not scare away the man . it’s just how i see things .

        Makes sense BB. Both parties should back off demands and take it more organically. I think most of us know what the needs are . Girls aren’t dumb and realize that guys want sex . And guys who sign up here realize girls want allowance . So do the M&G, take as much time to “get comfy” without money or sex , and things most likely will work out .

      • Sugar D says:

        “Men as young as 19 on here looking for SB and a huge increase in guys who make 50 k a year”

        having said that above, there are plenty of men(boy -men) who want a free lay and think they can game the system. Just as there will always be girls who do the same . Some boys will never pay ,and some girls will never lay.

  131. Anonymous says:

    Some people on this blog are smoking some really bad shit……..

  132. FedUpAnon says:

    Virtually every girl on SA in my country is now platonic :-(

    What gives?

  133. Cryptic Anomaly says:

    @Bow – “Most don’t even have the common courtesy if they do get access to your photos to even say they aren’t interested. The more annoying bit is when someone is outside of your current location, requests access, then tells you I’m not interested in anything LD, then what was the point in request ion photos from someone who you had no intentions of meeting or having an arrangement with? I’ve never understood that game that male members play.”

    SB’s do that as well. I had Private Pics, no public ones and although I understand that you will want to see who you are talking to, like you I think it is a courtesy to at least chat a little first not just hit the request access to pics button. Again as SB’s are hoping to be paid for this, I think it is even ruder when they do it.

    So not just a male game, women play it too.

  134. Cryptic Anomaly says:

    @Lola Lo – I would say the same, 95 out of 100 would want sex at some point, of the other 5, 4 are lying for whatever reason and the remaining 1 is probably impotent is hoping for some other kind of sexual experience from the SB.

    Think about it this way, how much fun would it really be to just go out and have dinner dates? Think about it from your perspective, how about I take you to all these great shops and let you look at all these clothes and try some on and at the end of the day, I say “That’s it. Not buying anything for you. Time to go” it would feel like a waste of time and a tease, right?

    • n0name says:

      A good allowance is best. And leave the choice of shops to me. I am not into cardio sports walking numerous crap shops either. People have to decide on something relatively risk free for both parties. Asking a girl to attend more than a one “viewing” date on pro bono basis is hardly generous …. maybe buy her something or give a nice card with cash already.

      • n0name says:

        Especially since you like us to fit in your schedule just to go for some mere poxy coffee so much

    • Anonymous says:

      If it’s only physical then you’re not really interested in any other part of the arrangement or the other person. Now what would that constitute?

  135. n0name says:

    a ha ha ha they do not like references to t*nder hack 😀

    • n0name says:

      or maybe they do not like whole weblinks ….

      • n0name says:

        here is something for the non-SDs who have a problem with the idea of p*ying and the girls being “entitled”. I bring good news – just google the recent t*nder hack … it was about long entertaining chats which turned out to be guy on guy 😀 😀

      • n0name says:

        So, fellas, maybe you ought to join an upmarket gentlemen’s club for the chats and lack of embarrassment? No idea what Garrick charges these days in relation to usage v platonic SBs … Would you rather chat to someone older than your granddad or potentially gay, or just a plain bro in the same kind of boat?

      • SugarD says:

        @nOname

        Babe, you definitely did not take your meds today. Keep this up and friends close to you will green sheet you .

      • n0name says:

        It seems incoherent because they do not like web links evidently- they were “moderating” that post and now it is gone … so you just have to google t*nder hack to appreciate 😉

  136. Lola Lo says:

    I know this has probably been discussed before but what are sugar daddies actually looking for? I know it’s specific to the sugar daddy but generally speaking. Is sex definitely required? or is that discussed between the sugars before any dates? help please, new sugar baby here

    • Anonymous says:

      95 out of 100 SDs require sex.
      The rest require sex on the first date…;)))

      • n0name says:

        That 5% can screw selves, that is why I usually refuse offers to travel to their general area. They can meet me at a safe public restaurant locally to me. If they hope getting laid in lieu of allowance = they spend on travel, not me.

      • n0name says:

        Incidentally, bona fide SDs should forget budget meets ideas near “their work” as that is one of the unsafe rapist filtering factors …. a “coffee” date an SB has to travel to screams it is a pot rapist who would text once you are half way there with some baloney “work” excuse to switch the location at the eleventh hour to a non-public-place one …. …. need I explain more

      • n0name says:

        you got a powered job = you invent a business meeting etc

      • n0name says:

        In fact your glorified job is of no consequence whatsoever unless we get good immediate benefits

      • TVC 15 says:

        Generally a gentleman will travel to meet a lady, though circumstances may make the converse more practical, in which case he will cover any travel expenses.

      • Anonymous says:

        There are not many “gentleman” left. Feminists killed most of them. The left behinds are “bad boys”.

      • n0name says:

        They killed selves off by expecting women to both work full time and then still be somehow “interested” after all that palaver

      • n0name says:

        basically if you want wild sex, you inherit or make money otherwise, marry and employ domestics for the chores plus fund tennis lessons or suchlike hobbies

      • Anonymous says:

        n0name is TVC talking to herself

      • n0name says:

        you probs, but you only hear “another beer”

      • n0name says:

        The problem with this blog is TVC would have a definition of a “gent” and a wannabe effer usually posts something else … e.g. cryptic and who not

      • SugarD says:

        TVC 15 says:

        Generally a gentleman will travel to meet a lady, though circumstances may make the converse more practical, in which case he will cover any travel expenses.

        +1
        I like Starbucks in my area because I always have a reason to be there ,and can explain away talking to an age inappropriate girl because of what I do for a living . That venue should be safe feeling for a young woman since they are very public.

      • Anonymous says:

        Give me a fucken break LOL rapist plot if you want to meet at starbucks hahaha!! You’re green as shit. If I wanted to rape a girl I would gain her trust first by………….. taking her to a restaurant and paying for a shitload of food and giving her a whole pile of expensive trinkets……… special k her at the table…… take her to a hotel……. rape her….. and take back the trinkets

        Sorry ladies just saying actually haven’t raped a woman but come on ……starbucks rape plan??? LMAO What type of idiot does shit that way??? Hahaha thanks for the laugh

    • Stephen L. says:

      Despite what some women will tell you, sex is always required. There might be rare cases such as a 70+ SD who has become impotent because of age but those cases are extremely rare.

      So yes, sex is definitely required. Don’t convince yourself otherwise. You will end up frustrated and hurt.

      • elaine says:

        @Stephen

        “Despite what some women will tell you”

        *Correction:
        1. Despite what SA marketing will tell you.
        2. Despite what some Tumblr/IG girls will tell you.

        Thanks.

      • n0name says:

        @stephen , normal price for sex is also half of very much everything, provided it is a bona fide good fortune and not debts galore. Arrangement is best treated as second marriage and a guy should budget for all his needs like that and not whine that they wnat to be liked for “what they are” …. “what they are” actually very much includes provider potential

      • Stephen L. says:

        @Elaine

        Correction:
        Despite what some women will tell you, sex is always required.

        The world is a lot bigger than just SA, Tumblr, or IG.

        Thank you

        @n0name Sorry I don’t know why you’re speaking to me about any of this. It doesn’t correlate to anything I said. All the best to you though.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        nothing she n0name says correlates to anything being said there’re just random incoherent post. I believe TVC said she enjoyed them maybe if we ask nicely she’ll translate them for the rest of us.

      • elaine says:

        @Stephen

        I was not talking about the world, I was talking about the SUGAR world.
        If you didn’t notice yet, it is mainly the Tumblr and IG girls and SA marketing who are spreading the “platonic” fairytale.

        Check on “Let’s talk sugar” if you have a moment, or check the translation I’ve posted in the previous blog -an article in the news paper- and see how SA presents the sugarlifestyle here.

        All platonic, fancy dinners, vacations in exotic resorts, 5*hotels, and medium allowance on top of medium $3000.
        And IF, yes “IF”!, you also consider to be intimate with Daddy, he will even be much more generous!

        So who’s to blame?

    • With a Bow on Top says:

      What are sugar daddies looking for? …
      I think that you should maybe reconsider being in the Sugarbowl if you can’t simply ask someone who is interested in you “What are you looking for?” None of the bloggers are going to be able to give you the answer to that question. We don’t know what sugar daddies are looking for its not for us to know its for you to go out and find out. We don’t hold the answer to 1,000,000 different people’s needs.

    • Anonymous says:

      any guy who says he’s not looking for sex during convos is lying to you and a waste of time. those are the types that want to seduce you and just get sex for free

    • noname says:

      lola put yourself in a SD shoes would you want to pay thousands of dollars a month if you wern’t getting sex why is it that SB think rich men are lonely and desperate so they are willing to pay someone just to talk to

      • Anonymous says:

        I think women think like women and this is the problem. They think they would have to be desperate to pay someone for companionship so the men doing it have to be desperate too. Newsflash: most of us aren’t desperate, just trying to save some damn time and/or stress

      • elaine says:

        I think men think like men and this is the problem.
        They think we would have to be desperate to want to be paid for companionship so since they have money they can be rude and ill mannered.

        Newsflash: some of us aren’t desperate, just trying to make our lives a bit more comfortable and experience new things without financial stress.

      • Anonymous says:

        See if I had to do something like this not to have stress financially that would be desperation to me. Just another difference in thought waves I guess

      • elaine says:

        @Anonymous

        What exactly do you not understand in:

        “experience new things without financial stress”.

        If for example I experience to fly in a private jet without having the financial stress of having to buy and maintain the damned thing, does that mean I am desperate??

        No, it doesn’t!
        It just means I am experiencing something I would never be able to afford myself WITHOUT having the financial stress of it!

      • Anonymous says:

        That would just seem weak to me. Really no offense is meant here. It would make me feel weak and dependent and to me that’s desperate

      • Anonymous says:

        Anon she would rather sell her body to gain access to a private jet. Somehow that is less “stressful” to her lol.

      • n0name says:

        @ noname, darling namesake, your suggestion does not make sense; if we consider sex something unwanted generally or at best a sort of necessary evil to get taken care of (be it good marriage or arrangement) ….. erm …. right, like I shall throw money at Osborne prick for the privilege of being required to pay tax? I think not

      • n0name says:

        Assuming your agreement that taxes are a sort of necessary evil one does not normally like and also has a right to try to avoid (evasion is a different matter of course)

      • n0name says:

        Incidentally, chatlines are at least a quid a minute, chatting with accountants and lawyers is infinitely more expensive and perhaps less pleasurable …. unless they excelled at drama class at Harrow and also great at pouring tea

      • n0name says:

        Right, so we do want a share of that saving too, naturally. I now refuse to let people text me unless they are buying me lunch that day. My time is precious too, you know.

      • n0name says:

        @elaine and anon, I generally consider travel a chore I would rather not do than any kind of a perk …. … unless they offered private car to private jet …. but then you might wake up in who knows where …. so again not ideal proposition … I like to be taken care of and 110% safe …. mind, one could agree to a private jet to Dubai and then pretend to be from Syria these days … might suit linguistic scholars or just wear the hideous garb and pretend to be mute

      • keiti says:

        +1 @Elaine

    • Anonymous says:

      Hi Lola,

      Sex may develop naturally in the course of the arrangement but certainly isn’t required if you don’t feel like having sex at first. This should be more than just a physical arrangement, otherwise it would cross the thin line between it and prostitution. Good luck!

  137. Bruce Wayne says:

    The Tumblr crowd must be passing around a new strategy…. I have had this happen three times in the last week…. email and text then discuss meeting to gauge chemistry. The SB then suggests you join WYP so that she can get compensated for meeting you. I don’t think this is from SA though.

    Second immature strategy — share pictures in your first email and the SB pretends that she can’t see your pictures. She really can, but she is not interested and wants to play a game first.

    lovely just lovely

    • Anonymous says:

      There are a lot of fantasy players here. It’s just that simple. Fantasy players play fantasy games. It’s like that almost everyone you go on the internet. Why would this be any exception

  138. Sugar D says:

    fear-

    A contributor yesterday said it. She “wants” to be a Sugar Baby but chickens out when it comes to trigger time .

    rude-

    they get a better offer and flake rather than doing the right thing and notifying the other person(s). many guys do this as well and will totally disappear on a SB when they get tired of them .

    • Elaine says:

      Yes that more or less sums it up …. It annoyes the hell out of me though! ?

      • Elaine says:

        And what is even more irritating is them contacting you again after some time, pretending nothing happened!

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        @Elaine — I agree Elaine. That has happened to me on more than one occasion. Let’s just pretend they weren’t incredibly rude.

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        I don’t know if it was @Elaine who posted it or whether it was @Jaybird but someone mentioned that when people realize that sex or actually having to commit to someone financially becomes a reality and it’s not all cute conversion anymore that’s when people flake. That’s why I think many people play a lot of games on SA. If you aren’t able to commit yourself 100 percent to the role you have to play this isn’t for you

      • Anonymous says:

        That’s why I just block any bitch who disappears. By the time they come back I never remember who the hell they were anyway so it’s easier to just run a block before it all rehappens

      • elaine says:

        Yes, was me.
        Called them “Toedippers”, never serious intentions, just playing the lottery.

        And also self validation plays a role:
        “Look girlfriends! I’ve put “High” on my profile and I get messages, so that means I am so cute men want to pay me “High” allowances!”

        Silly teenage games….

    • n0name says:

      Incidentally this is why i always offer they meet me locally to me. The main reason being perhaps the less known scam of a pot SD requiring a pot SB to travel, then once she spent the money on travel she does not really have, they suggest alternative location more conducive to rape and default on pay scenario …. some shit “work” excuse as usual …. but but but but … if you want to quote “work” as a valid excuse you have to provide us with clear benefits from that “work” actually

  139. Anonymous says:

    @cryptic, WABOT, ANON , very good topic here I think we should talk little more about this. we are all adults here and should have the sense of communicating with eachother so why is ANY one ever stood up , I DONT GET IT.
    for example SBS will talk and text for 4-5 days till the day of the meeting and then will suddenly stop communicating or block you instead of saying I am not interested any more.

    • rembodler says:

      That is a trend, especially with young women. They do not view u as a human, u r just a bunch of electronic text messages. Once they lose interest at whatever stage for whatever reason, they just stop talking to you and also block you, just in case.
      No reason to get upset, part of the game. No reason to ponder as to why she did it. Just shake your head and text the next one on your list or wait a few days and a new bunch will sign up.

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        I clearly post why I block members on my page. Too many members expecting to see photos but don’t care to say a single word to you. Whether they are real people who knows? Most don’t even have the common courtesy if they do get access to your photos to even say they aren’t interested. The more annoying bit is when someone is outside of your current location, requests access, then tells you I’m not interested in anything LD, then what was the point in request ion photos from someone who you had no intentions of meeting or having an arrangement with? I’ve never understood that game that male members play.

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        That move specifically is SD related move.

      • Anonymous says:

        There are a lot of pic collectors here on both sides just like any other website

      • elaine says:

        Why block them?
        Just ignore and move on.

        Blocking shows that in one way or another you care.
        It’ so childish.
        I only block members that are really annoying or rude, or plane stone crazy.
        3 in total in 3 years.

      • elaine says:

        *plain

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        The reason being is you get this repeat requests for access to view. 1 to 2 to 3 times over. With still no message. That part gets annoying.

      • noname says:

        elaine i only block those that are threathing me thats only 1 since ive been on here i agree just ignore them and move on

      • noname says:

        bow i can see why you get repeat requests for pictures your beautiful thats going to draw all kinds to you the good and the bad in your case it might be best to block

      • Anonymous says:

        You’re doing right in blocking them. Some of us don’t want to deal with the garbage. Blocking shows you dgaf. I had a girl send 8 pic requests in a row. Fuck that shit

  140. Lizzy says:

    Now I want one for lesbian/multisexual femme SBs (like myself)

  141. Anonymous says:

    SBs’ favorite pastime.

    Agree to a date. Cancel. Re-schedule. Cancel. Block u on SA.
    Cannot think of anything more immature. But they seem to absolutely enjoy it…
    And then women complain men treat them as disposable tools…

    • With a Bow on Top says:

      I get blocked for being black. I get blocked for not agreeing to someones “idea” of an “arrangement”. I get blocked for not sending nudes. I get blocked for a lot of shit. I could say the same thing about some of the SDs. But what do I know.

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        Pettiness works on both sides of the coin. Who is worse who cares. Just know your worth and what your able to offer to someone special/amazing and move on. No point in wasting your time in someone who is going to waste your time. Don’t stress over them. They are missing out. Not you.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        How do you know you’re being blocked because of your race? Do they tell you before they do it?

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        @Jaybird yes. They do say that. I’ve gotten responses from some members like “I don’t date black women” after they’ve requested to view my photos/and it clearly states on my profile that I’m “African American/Black”. Do I not look black in my photo? Lols

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Seriously? Maybe you should take down your private pics and only email them once you’ve spent a bit of time messaging. You can weed out some of the undesirables that way.

      • NYCBrownBaby says:

        the classic ” I don’t date black women ” statement. I stop putting up with this nonsense 6 months ago . They request to see your private pics n then disappear lol constant games these “grown men” play. If you don’t date black women don’t come to my profile and message me simple. Simple . Too much time wasters . Obviously there is a type of men here who wants to date the barbie type , a large amount of them do . I never met my SD on here and don’t think i will find any from this site. Funny enough i met my SD on WYP and it lasted a year . Both of us have had conversations about the whole black girl thing , they grow up being taught to get rich , buy houses and date blondes . It’s just what they know. I always tell black SBs Freestyle!!!!. Get your ass in corporate events , go to where they hang out , join their gym. It’s better they see you in their natural habitat so they feel comfortable lol

      • WABOT says:

        I have no clue why SA won’t let me sign in on my phone but anywho… I do agree with some of what you say @NYC but not quite all of it. I won’t generalize and say that they grew up this way and because of that they act this way. I will say though that I believe that sometimes white men are curious about something they’ve never had that part I do believe is true. When they realize we aren’t any different than any other woman that’s when things will change. I also do believe that black women can be the best mistress/sugarbaby if you think about it. If none of your colleagues believe you’d ever be with a black woman come on …

      • Jaybird923 says:

        “I also do believe that black women can be the best mistress/sugarbaby if you think about it. If none of your colleagues believe you’d ever be with a black woman come on …”

        @Bow that’s what you came up with? We’re good mistresses because no one you know would believe you’d date a black woman? If that’s the only thing you bring to the table then please speak for yourself and not all black women.

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        Maybe I should have rephrased and generalized. Is that really wrong?
        Sometimes part of being in an arrangement is playing whatever role you are required to. So if its being someones “Dirty Little Secret”, which most of us have done… you have to play that role. Thats part of what being a SB/Mistress is. All I’m saying is that sometimes we have a slight advantage when it comes to situations where it could be a “close call” For many men when they have Mistresses/SBs outside of their race when its not their norm there is an advantage. I don’t mean this in a negative light at all. I’m not advocating I’m just saying sometimes in these situations it works.

    • Cryptic anomaly says:

      I got to the point where if they canceled once it was pretty much over. I used to be more forging but I found it was pointless they would just keep wasting my time.

      Same goes for SBs who take days to respond. It all shows a lack of commitment on their part.

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        @Cryptic the same goes for SDs. But I think SDs are more guilty of trying to upgrade an SB due to attraction for someone maybe more attractive or “cheaper” just as SBs are guilty of trying to upgrade a possible legitimate SD based on $$$.
        I’ve had POTS pass me up and tell me they’ve found someone more to their liking and then it BOMB in their face because they deal with all the bullshit that everyone is familiar with ..the no shows, the lies, the stories, the excuses, etc…

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        The lack of commitment is shared in both parties. Not just the SBs. I’ve been stood up too. You aren’t the only one.

      • Cryptic anomaly says:

        Hey Bow, I’m just speaking from my own experiences. I have heard from SBs and what and SDs tell them etc

        It’s bad on both sides.

        No matter how I look at it unless you want P4P the only way this works is to do it slow, get to know each other over a few meets no sex or money.

        Like any other type of relationship it takes investment. Although it’s tempting to have a “what else is on” approach and keep channel surfing the risk is you will miss the one person you really could have connected with.

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        Its sad for what should be a fairly simple process gets screwed up by the masses.

      • Cryptic anomaly says:

        Yep as I have mentioned in the past Sugar should be a niche thing as soon as you mass market anything you get people who don’t get it and just do things in the exact opposite way they should be done.

        It should be simple in the sense that there isn’t any need to play games here, I’m offering money, you’re offering your company, if we get along we might be able to arrange something.

        Simple but the losers who lie and play games make it difficult.

      • With a Bow on Top says:

        @ Cryptic well said. Well Said.

    • Anonymous says:

      Your problem Anonymous. Once a girl cancels on me I ditch and block. I would advise you to do the same

  142. Anonymous says:

    Mr. Man, you are nothing more than. 20 min. Memorized speech from a political party. News flash, we have already elected the paper weight of the month and we are content. Well done senator, we have sponsored others in hopes they will be more than the Boy Scouts o America and the dress code that excludes women in your party even though you are hypnotized bc we finally got the lights on by making the brownie and the Girl Scouts. You have 99 problems and the this bitxh ain’t one. So, take your glory hole and go do you.

  143. Anonymous says:

    no one here does drugs and you kow it. I have sat and listened to you as if I am an old lady ina nursing home about all your money goes to your friends and their drug habits when I don’t drugs. I am creative and you know it. So you use my creativity for your books and dog me out on anything you use for your booksd and tell everyone I do drugs when I do not. Test me, you sick bitch. I am sick and tired of being bullied by someone who professed to care about me and suck and fuck me dry. I do not have one gene within me that gives a fuck about you anymore you loser that is a millionaire that gives thousands to hookers while he travels and then texts me late at nigh, in order to sex text him, so he can jack off. grow a godamn plant and rub against it and pray to god it feels like my sweet, tight, ass pussy, you sick fucker. go jump, no one will miss you. Fuck with me again and I will call you by your God given name. You better leave me alone.

  144. Anonymous says:

    Let me guess @ Rem, you are my ex who sits and tries to drill in his company motto “under promise, over deliver”. As if… More like…”we under deliver and over promise everyone with a southern smile and political narsassistic grin that will take everything you’ve got” nigga, please.

  145. Anonymous says:

    @ eek

    Grow a god damn cock for once instead of your current passive approach and let me know when you would like to throw a few balls.

    You annoy me in your passive ability to kiss ass on this blog. You basically are admitting you suck balls with your mouth wide open and then hold your ass cheeks wide for the undecided in order for them to fuck you, wide ass open. Let’s all get real for once, instead of you trying to gain a political, comfortable lead.

  146. Anonymous says:

    This is not a mid life crisis. This is finally me realizing that I jeopardized my mental health, my life, for someone that gave change to me as a quarter in a video game, the kind of money that most of us re-evaluate and say, this food for my table.
    , this shoes, if I amooking for a SD, who is an advisor/benefactor in my life, he actually invests than more than what the maid or gardener receives. Even though he stands in your face and says “the business is going south”, “the market is bad”, “my wife wants new breasts” and another island trip”, she will notice the money is missing”.

    Do you men actually realize the go damn damage that you inflict on innocent souls that just want to love you and be loved and make an impact on your lives and feel like one in yours besides if your cock reaches a 2 inch diameter or 10. You men, (majority) rape women in the space raw and lost about it on “private” blogs. You should all be drug out in the streets by shame from the government and shot.

    • Anonymous says:

      I sickened by the over whelming friends that I a
      Was introduced to and the men smiled and winked at me as if “ah yeah, this daddy is about to get his freak on bc you just became community propertittle lady and you know it.” Fuxk all of you if you know the situation and you are worth money and you do not provide bc you state we are a debatable “collage” project. Fuck you, you sick, twisted bastards.

  147. Anonymous says:

    My only regret was investing in a man that was overweight. I fell in love with him for the way he way he was, as he was. Knowing his wife neglected him or faked it, at best.

    I watched how I delved into his spirit and poured so much of me into him, that he began to finally be the cocky person he felt but never exposed unless under fake false pretenses to hookers or anyone who would moan loudly. I gave and have until he sucked me dry. His advances In my life were always a miniscule factor of the price he paid for his wife. It was miniscule and not even close to mediocrity of what he gave her. So while I spent years, rejuvenating him, reviving his flesh, his spirit, his well being and watched his business grow…I watched my crush project on me his wife’s degrading antics and constant ridicule that I never once pronounced upon until the time came where all I had left was Mack and manipulation. She has a maid, vacations once a month, while he I sex texting me at night daily. 2,000 texts a month and I am paid nothing as a free fool where back page girls receive more than I did. I built him up and he sucked the utter breathe from my bones and have nothing back to me. No, you are a beautiful woman. No, I adore you and you work so hard, allow me to send a maid to help. No, nothing ever. He became such a vaccine in my life that I ix nayed the SD lifestyle altogether bc he shit on me 24/7 and knew it and then would throw what he had done for me, up in my face 24/7 and anytime I ever asked for help. This is all I see and worse on this blog.

    It would be one thing if the men here were actually investing. He invested with a price I paid and ten some where he never divered and I gave and I gave, assuming, he would do what was right and treat me a mistress and not a who’re. He left me throwing shit in my face as I wished I had of been a hoe that made him beg on his Knees for my adoration and attentions, instead of me giving them so freely. He sucked and fucked me so dry, that I have never regained my ground. Can you men not wake up and have a god damn emotional real feeling for once and give more than you take, you bastards.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I wish you peace. May you find someone truly worthy of your love. Find a way to be happy and whole xoxo

      • Anonymous says:

        Can you women not wake up and have a god damn emotional real feeling for once and give more than you take, you bitches. I relate so much to this just only in reverse.

      • Anonymous says:

        But you know people only take from us what we let them take so we have no one to blame but ourselves.

      • Anonymous says:

        Look, it is my ex pretending to be a female that has sauntered on this blog , like a woman based off of our intimate communication for years and tried to play it off as he is a female because he wrote a book about us based off of my seductive, raunchy text and is now trying to reinvent himself as a female.

        No shit your boobs are fake and so is your personality bc you pull from an intimate source that no here know about. You sicko. I hope your fake pic boobs shrivel up and the whole SD world realizes how fake you are. Ms. Sugar Spicey and your crack pipe joke(in the good old days) when you showed up at my door and joked about it because you needed more funds and info. to fuel the fire.

      • Anonymous says:

        Do you like BBQs?

  148. Allene P says:

    This article was helpful. It’s nice to read something from a different perspective, and understanding other factors may contribute to setting any arrangements up.

  149. rembolder says:

    I have no problem with SA putting out a blog that is probably of interest to less then 1% of its membership. What I have a problem with, is not having another one for its mainstream membership.
    Please do not call me a bigot. I am very much for having X-smalls and X-large. Even X-medium, if you must.
    But please, hang a few S, M and L along. All I ask.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Boo hoo you want a blog for the mainstream members just go down the list and pick one. You guys are so ridiculous. since when have the blog articles been so important to the conversation that takes place beneth them?

    • Anonymous says:

      I think you’ve come a long way remolder by just posting on here. I know how difficult this is for you. It shouldn’t be though lol. We never stay on topic and you can’t catch the gay. Nobody’s going to think you’re gay. We all know you’re straight. It’s going to be OK brah…….. OK.

      I’m an alcoholic. Did I whine when they put up a blog about alcohol and ask for a blog for those of who didn’t drink? No I dealt with it just like you have to deal with this.

      I don’t know what’s happened to you. You used to be one of the better blog characters but lately and not just about this you’ve been acting like a jackass.

      • rembolder says:

        @ Anon and @ Jay
        @Anon – I think you are a blog character that always posts about how straight guys are worried to come to gay blog since they worry they will “catch” a gay gene…;-).
        None of that. I am pretty confident in my “straightness” and knowing that being gay is not contagious is part of my job description…;-)).
        However, and Jay…Jay – you should give me a bit more credit – yes, there are plenty of other blogs, but as BOTH of you just said – we hang out on the latest one. Are you sending me to some last year’s blog to post, so that no one ever reads it?
        Thanks. You are great buddies.

      • Anonymous says:

        Your conclusion is about as obvious as a biker at a preschool remolder. And nobody’s sending you anywhere. We’re all just here and that’s just how it should be. To not be here would be a form of homophobia and ignorance in its purest form.

      • rembolder says:

        That is PRECISELY what I have a problem with. Not voting for Hillary sends all women straight to Hell. Herding. I do not like herding, sorry, buddy. Never did, never will. Even if herding leads me straight into Heaven.
        “…To not be here would be a form of homophobia and ignorance in its purest form.”

      • Anonymous says:

        You never had an issue with herding before, so you’re point is invalid. Everytime we get a new blog everyone herds over here like sheep, including you.
        Surely you see your own hypocrisy.

      • rembolder says:

        I don’t. I just hope you see yours.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Remmy I would like to give you more credit but can’t. You’re not a BBW, brown sugar baby, long distance SD,etc. But you commented on all those blogs with no issue. Anyone who reads the blogs knows we just move to the latest one and our commentary has nothing to do with the subject so no one will think you’re here because your anonymous blog character is gay.

      • Anonymous says:

        You’re scrounging because you know you’re busted rem haha that’s just how it is sometimes

    • Anonymous says:

      You come across like those people who ask for White History Month.

      • Anonymous says:

        You come across as someone who thinks we should no longer celebrate or say Merry Chistmas, because we can offend some or otherbody.

  150. Anonymous says:

    lol. others do, so perhaps that is why you were asked.

    Anywho, I spoke on the blog the day the video dropped and did not see it until today. I said: “It will be in the next mornings service in Church and that everyone was working on their swag.” I could see the fro, and I could see the water. I

    And with no further adue, (to some who will say…What does this song even mean?) and to others, we will go… “well, heck, I could hear it, I just didn’t know when it would drop or what it would look like, B**ch,(in a good way here), is mak’in her money.

    You tube: Formation (dirty) by Beyonce

  151. yougottabekiddingme says:

    Are Kitty and Keiti two different posters?

    • ATLSD says:

      I think so. Just similar questions.

    • keiti says:

      Me is me. I do not have split personality :)

    • Kitty says:

      Yes, different posters.

    • Eloquence says:

      @ YBTBKM

      So, I gave you my info and you still haven’t emailed. It surprises me none. What is new with this blog? I appreciate the fact that you inquired with such diligence, as if you really cared. Pfff. BUt the reality is, another poster, poster properly prior. There are only a select few who are permitted to voice info here and the rest have no voice.

      I am never ever claiming my voice has a voice. Unfortunately, mine is drowned out by the “cool kids” because I am always dissed, each time I post. SO, I stopped. I would love to delve 9into questions and shit, have mine answered. Especially, when I was in the “bowl” of candidates on your site.

      Yes, it does take a thick skin to not only participate but to also thrive in this environment. However, what is sad, is that there is no informative assistance given to newbies in this space, nor for the educated who are still learning and participating.
      It is like everyone has their panties in a wad around here and unless we slit some skinwith the next, bump fists, or are homies of info, outside of this blog…No one here ever appears to take the time to get to know your corwd and/or bloggers on a personal basis. Ok, so one person did but it was a lame comparison of reality and felt fake as hell. Am I bitter? No ma’m. I have a high self esteem, even when I talk to myself. Mock and joke if you will, but I have to live with “me, myself and I” on a daily basis and I can attest I love me, some “me”.

      Its just, where do you really reach when all the ones who come here for either personal intro, self evaluation, promoting, who the hell cares? Ya’ll diss and dismiss as if they are not on your level. That aspect gets old.

      I have never met any of you, but once upon a time in a child like (unfortunate unicornish pretend manner), you actually seemed real in comparison to the onset of – lety me turn my nose up at you. RHerefore, my nose is now sky high in the air and I am dismissing the blog. Besides, I get depressed with each read and think, oh gee, my fat as that is not 105 pounds wont makew the cut, ever since sexy rockstar left. So what is the point of contributing anymore. Don’t worry, I hear the nasty responses already “don’t let the door hit you where the good lord split you”, already in my ears from within of the fowl folks here. I am not worried. I will create my own following like a man creating the word wide web in his garage. Laugh now and I will dust you off my shoulder lick lint soon enough. Call me names. I could care less. This space is certainly not what it once was. Bring on another fake personality of heavenly two people that log in here and keep this space rolling while faking out your victims. All hail your algorithms. Holler. You might want to holler really loud bc I am deaf.

      • Eloquence says:

        ferment for a while and lets see if we get a foul ass stench or a fine wine. We shall see.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I think she only say the best where you asked for her email address and not the one where you gave yours. She responded to you. Go ahead and send her an email. She didn’t forget you

        “yougottabekiddingme says:

        @Eloquence
        Busy Sunday…Sorry for the delay in responding. My email address is yougottabekiddingme2014 at g ma il”

      • Jaybird923 says:

        * I think she only SAW the POST…

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Thanks, Jay.

        Hey Eloquence…

        Email sent. Just so you know…behind the shit, and behind the giggles, I do pay attention, and I do try to recognize that behind every persona is a person. No false pretense…the gesture was sincere.

  152. Anonymous says:

    I am 21 years old and new to online sugar dating, I am unsure how to approach the subject of what I want from a sugar daddy as I fear I may come across rude. I know what I want and I know what I am willing to give in return so any advice from experienced daddies or babies would be greatly appreciated.

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      Hey there…

      Are you male or female?

    • Josh says:

      Gender ambiguity? Assume female.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        It’s anonymous lol but it’s a woman for sure.

      • Anonymous says:

        male

      • Anonymous says:

        I am 21 years old (MALE) and new to online sugar dating, I am unsure how to approach the subject of what I want from a sugar daddy as I fear I may come across rude. I know what I want and I know what I am willing to give in return so any advice from experienced daddies or babies would be greatly appreciated.

      • Cryptic Anomaly says:

        @josh curious as to why you would assume female? I’m cautious and to assume male until certain.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Anonymous Sorry Sir

        @Cryptic I assumed female because of this

        ” I am unsure how to approach the subject of what I want from a sugar daddy as I fear I may come across rude. I know what I want and I know what I am willing to give in return…”

        Men usually are concern with the best way to guarantee they get what they want. Most women are usually more concerned about what people will think of them for asking for what they want… raises, promotions, kinks, etc.

      • Cryptic anomaly says:

        @jay it did sound feminine but I also factored in the gay themed blog so I kind of knew he was male for some reason.

    • flyR says:

      Dude,

      This is not match dot com……… it is about arrangements…… and in most arrangements the people get naked, rub parts together, annoy the neighbors etc. In the absence of a SB profile which says NO SEX the odds are that it is assumed to be part of the package Never hurts to verify . Of course some form of financial assistance is also included…..

      For most what’s not included is being treated poorly, cheated, abused (although it does happen)

      Ya need to do some research and decide what you want to find here and then pursue it. Unfortunately the profiles do not carry signs like major retailers so you have an idea what’s inside, pricing policy and how they handle customer complaints.

  153. Cryptic Anomaly@@ says:

    @kitty – I get you’re shy and that in itself is quite sweet and appealing. When I say I like the SB to impress me I don’t mean she has to be the aggressor or some kind of out there chatty personality.

    Simply be responsive to the SD, when you meet a quick hug on greeting, eye contact when he talks to you, smile at him, you being shy would draw me right in actually, but I would still want to know we are actually communicating with each other and that doesn’t mean you have to be chatty.

    A while ago I met a cute 19 y.o really shy and awkward but so endearing, and she really had me – to a point. But her lack of responsive made her come across as cold and when we said goodbye there was no hug she just walked off, it was stone cold, she even admitted to being stone cold at times.

    She did like me though as she wanted to see me again but I wasn’t feeling it so I passed.

    The point I’m trying to make is being shy can be really charming just don’t be so shy that you come across as cold and aloof, don’t make the man feel like you are doing something you would rather not do and I’m not talking sex either.

    • Cryptic Anomaly says:

      Just wanted to add that the above is what I like obviously. You just need to listen to the SD of he says he wants discretion in public than don’t hug hi