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Sugar Baby Christmas Gifts
  • Posted Dec 23, 2015

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Arrangements are like snowflakes: each unique and beautiful. This Christmas, give her a gift she’ll remember and cherish. Here are some great ideas for Sugar Baby Christmas gifts for all the Sugar Babies in your lives.

The Tech Savvy Baby

Go big or go home with this one, since most nice electronics will be pricey. Get her a new MacBook or desktop to show her you care, and remind her of your generosity daily. Other gifts for the semi-nerd are a blinged out speaker purse (yes, it’s a clutch that plays music) or a charging pad for all her devices.

The Adventurous Baby

There’s only one thing on her mind: wanderlust. She wants to get away, from school, or work or everyday life. Gift her a plane ticket and a weekend in a hotel so she has no excuse not to scratch her travel itch. Bonus points if you can go with her and take her shopping.

The Spiritual Baby

This woman likes yoga and relaxation, and will appreciate a spa day or retreat to rejuvenate around the holidays. After the stress most of us experience during these months, this is sure to reset her mood and leave her wanting to show gratitude for the man who helped her reach nirvana.

The Spoiled Baby

Obviously, a designer bag or pair of stilettos is on every Sugar Baby’s Christmas list. She’ll gush over a pair of Louboutins, or a new Chanel Boy. A sizeable gift card to Saks will also work if you’re not sure about her style. Always keep your receipts in case something doesn’t fit.

The Foodie Baby

Lucky for you, this type of Sugar Baby is the easiest to shop for. She’s all about seven courses and flavor pairings, so a Royal Caviar gift set is a great option if you want to mail her something. Take it up a notch with a trip to world renowned restaurants, like The French Laundry or  Per Se. Yes, I’m a Thomas Keller fan, and she probably is, too.

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1,579 Responses to “Sugar Baby Christmas Gifts”

  1. Sky america says:

    Insurance is very helpful. Insurance is way to improve life. Insurance can remove poverty.

  2. walkingdeadfan says:

    are you kidding me? The perfect Christmas present from my sugar daddy would be a bottle of fresh poppers for me to sniff while he gives me an edging 9 hour long blowjob.

  3. Redtube says:

    Because not all men are assholes and feel comfortable by making promising they are never going to keep only to get in a woman’s pants maybe?

  4. LitaKota8989 says:

    Sarah Rose I couldn’t agree with you more. You must always shower your Daddy with loving gestures, sweet notes, home cooked meals, sweet little ideas that just bring a smile to his face. All those things are amazing things to give a Daddy when you yourself don’t have much to give. Its a wonderful feeling to give a man all he needs even when he does have so much. Some of the best things in life aren’t bought

  5. Perfect date or Christmas gift, I agree, SeekingArrangement ’s should strive to be more like real SeekingArrangement ’s with monthly allowances not some cheap escorts paid by the hour.

  6. Sarah_Rose says:

    Spoil your SD and you will be spoiled in return.
    What do you get a man for Christmas that can buy anything he wants and needs?
    Well, my SD is married, however they don’t communicate often and she doesn’t take care of him. I pamper my SD with massages and anything else he may desire. For Christmas, he got a bottle of his fav wine and a couple cigars to enjoy at home later, and then for while we were together I made him a home cooked meal (at my home, and packed it up to serve in our regular hotel room) that included his fav dish and fav dessert all homemade and served to him with leftovers to take home. He was about in tears and said it was the best gift anyone could have gotten him. He made the comment, “I always give, but no one ever gives to me.”
    Needless to say, my SD loves me and I cherish him greatly. It’s not about YOU, it’s about HIM, and that’s where most of the SBs have it wrong. When you give, you receive.

    • With a Bow on Top says:

      Well said Sarah!

    • noname says:

      good attidude that was truly inspiring thank you for sharing that

    • Anonymous says:

      That may be true for you… But that is the biggest lie, like ever heard and total piece of B.S. I have ever heard. But, let’s keep the lie alive and well.
      I am shocked others here cheered and coral led you on for more. Men would consider that lame at best and knock every woman here f any sincerity and for that, they might spot you a $20 in advance for your kindred spirit.

      Lmao. The marrow man I knew wouldn’t take fidta from me home even though we were at his job already having sex, he would shower in his private shower adjacent to his office and then hand me the hand made jams that were given to his SB the hour before me and then kick me out as soon as his next SB on her Beamer was doing drive by’s and reving her engine Lou’s as hell, posed as an MF’er, while him and I peeked out the window and I was informed that I had to leave out the back, side door. Need-less to say, we fizzled out not long after that. Eapeciay when I wound up in a Dr’s office bc I wound up smelling like fish, out of the blue. I called him crying and he presumed I was loose. This bastard was with many every hour and I had one. That one was him. I learned my lesson. Re only time I will let my stomach churn from here on out is over my work out regimen, never over aan. I went duces (after I cried), never again. I learned after him, once you have seen one dick, you have seen them all. In Rome, do as Romans I learned or get eaten alive and conquered.

      • Sarah_Rose says:

        Wow.
        Sorry you had a rough one, but you shouldn’t assume what I say is a lie or BS. Sounds like you naturally have a negative attitude. Bet the SDs are in line for you. Good luck.

    • Anonymous says:

      Sarah Rose, it sounds like you’re a great SB. Keep up the good effort and positive attitude. New SBs could learn a lot from you!

    • Sarah_Rose says:

      Thanks Everyone. I absolutely love what I do and the lifestyle.

      • Eden Marie says:

        Hi Sarah, I’m new to the SB lifestyle, and I would like to know if you could possibly email me some pointers on how to begin and keep a SD, and keep him happy?

  7. Anonymous says:

    Didn’t receive any lucky gifts this year, but thats ok cause i plan on finding my SD sometime soon. Next year I”ll have a Wonderfull story to tell!!!

  8. happy bunny says:

    I’m almost definitely the foodie baby!! I would be satisfied with even a burnt home-cooked meal – so long as I can tell the thought and effort was put into it, and we can eat it together while laughing over how bad it is, I’d be over the moon! x

  9. His Doll Baby says:

    Hermes 35 Brown Ostrich bag, was the best gift for Christmas :)

  10. Anonymous says:

    If you are looking at spa days instead of substantial material gifts lol and lol@SB for even posting that on the list. Thats what you give your fat secretary

  11. ThatLadyA says:

    I agree spoil your SB gentlemen. I am a lovely lady who needs to be spoiled so I can continue my college education. I miss the attention of a nice, loving man! I am looking for someone who wants to spoil me as I do them in many ways. Happy New Years to u all.

  12. Mercedes says:

    I agree 100% On what she said . TAKE NOTES GUYS . SPOIL A WOMAN ❤️? SUGAR BABYYY .

    • Anonymous says:

      Another one on psychotropic drugs who comes and types in a state of delirium

      • Anonymous says:

        If you’re the same person who is an escort NOT a SB take note of why men treat you no different to a prostitute. You’re bitter and repulsive to read. A sugar baby is nurturing and kind. Get over yourself.

  13. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Elaine

    Yep. Looking for what we want and having a chance to cast the net really wide. The beauty of the internet age. I can enjoy a lovely conversation with an experienced lady in Europe like yourself and simultaneously try to charm a POT in Sydney to get ready for a trip there. Lovely system. 😉

  14. Anonymous says:

    I love, love, love Elaine’s approach and always have. She has the image of class and a woman whom always stays on her freshly manicured toes.

    I can openly admit that I used to stay at her approach and was not on keister in a shooting match. Metaphorically speaking, but it was one where I expected fireworks and received the butt end of a gun that knocked me aback from the backfire. She has never lost her poise and graceful stance since her beginning of when I came across her here and that, in itself, has a great deal of un-spoken value.

  15. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Anonymous

    Absolutely. I am talking about my experiences, very subjective topic. But as to both married, I would guess more frequent than generally thought, a wife at home, an affair with a married coworker.

    As to SB of same age, the very name sugar BABY suggest an age difference.

    As to pay later, I still meet my former GFs from college years. No bitterness at all, it is like the veterans of many wars who do not waste time and emotional energy on conflicts from previous century.

    • Anonymous says:

      There are all kinds of arrangements and ages on the site @Another Anon. It is not always that we have to go with the labels that the site has up. With enough allowance they can call me whatever they want! I think it is silly to call someone a sugar daddy too.

  16. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Elaine

    Actually even a married man has an option of a married age matched partner.

    But true, my view is colored by my situation, I am in my 50s, divorced, my youngest graduates college in May, deep into top percentile of income and assets. There is no shortage of age matched ladies that would like to know my phone number.

    The issue are the age different ones. I can meet college age girls at work (not good), as my children’s friends (bad) or my friend’s children (really bad). Thus I am on SA, but I have very little illusions about the motivation of a girl more than one generation my junior.

    • elaine says:

      @Another Anonymous

      That is the good thing of sugar, everybody gets the change to find what he/she is looking for. :-)

      Some want to feel wanted, others are ok with being tolerated.
      Some want only sex, some want a free lance relationship.
      Some want girls, some want women.
      Some want “pussy”, some want “brain”

      It would be so great when all facets of sugar could be discussed here, without name calling and insults…

    • Anonymous says:

      You like college aged but no everyone is seeking that, or only that. One SD of mine had an older SB his age and a younger one my age. He said he appreciated variety.

      Two married people having an affair. Those are tough I would guess. bc is rarely any time to see one another if both sneaking around on their partner , unless they are swingers!

      No woman is free so even without allowance you are paying for this woman in some way. or she might make YOU pay later if she feels slighted.

  17. elaine says:

    @Another Anonymous

    Yes sure, a lot of men have options to find women in their age bracket outside the sugarbowl without paying allowances.

    But most mistresses or “kept women” are with married men….
    And married men have only two options.

    1. TELLING LIES
    About loving her, not being married, leaving his wife, a “mutual” future, not having sex with his wife, his wife not understanding, etc etc etc.

    Those men live in stress and constant fear: for wife finding out, for mistress finding out, for jealousy, for blackmail, for sperm jacking, for “Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned”….

    2. GIVING AN ALLOWANCE
    And thus rewarding his mistress financially for her availability, for not having future expectations, for not risking his marriage, for absence of jealousy, for not claiming, for no drama and most of all; for avoiding problems when it has to come to an end.

    Those men can enjoy the relationship to the fullest, they keep their mistresses happy and out of financial stress in return for the clearly defined limits their marital status is applying to the relationship.

  18. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Elaine

    Good post about older mistresses. Yet on the other hand many men can easily find the same qualities in ladies outside of the sugar bowl among their age peers, they have easy professional and social access to. Hence the allowance might not be given and expected.

  19. Anonymous says:

    I don’t post here often nowadays, but just for the record, I was the one who first clarified the terminologies:

    https://www.seekingarrangement.com/blog/blog/2015/12/23/sugar-baby-christmas-gifts/#comment-464228

    “December 27, 2015 at 7:43 am
    Any man wasting time and resources on an infertile woman who is not the mother of his child(ren) is obviously not Alpha or Beta, but either a Sigma if he uses her as a tool to get fertile women, or an Omega if otherwise.

    These designations are reproductive strategies. Every strategy for genetic suicide is Omega, which can range from PUA to Playboys to MGTOW to White Knight wasting substantial resources on not-his-problems, and everything in between.”

    An earlier clarification of “alpha” and “beta” can be found here:

    https://www.seekingarrangement.com/blog/blog/2015/12/15/long-distance-sugar/#comment-462853

    –SSSD

  20. Fundude says:

    @Anonymous

    In response to “white women looking old in their 40s”

    That is usually due to:

    1) Excessive tanning by White women. Women tan far more than men and far more frequently
    2) Obesity epidemic among women is worse than among comparable men
    3) Smoking is still prevalent among women who are attempting to “keep slim” compared to men

  21. yougottabekiddingme says:

    What the hell happened in here?

    • noname says:

      i have a hard time understang your posts but i can this one it looks like a war zone its suppose to a sugar bowl but it doesn’t look to sweet

    • Anonymous says:

      The owners of this blog are hell-bent on destroying it by allowing @Dave and @FunDude to post nonsense all day long.

    • Anonymous says:

      I miss you bunches, @ YGTBKM

      Ok, so I have no where to run to at the moment. When I told a friend, my grandure idea of getting back into online dating this week, well, I was hit with aids and std statistics based on local and state level statistics. Mind you, that placed a damper on my ideas for the moment. However, I have to give myself credit, in the sense, that though that based on statistical data for a person who is not gung Ho (haha) on me dipping my feet back in the pool, I really am not one that has to worry on where I have been.

      Kinda like the woman who always screams “your kids on going to fall out of the that tree and kill themselves.” Where as, I reply, “then ignore them and they will be just fine and will not get hurt.”

      Which (typing out loud) gives me another point. I have a new found reason to lose my weight gain. Wanna know why? It doesn’t matter, for I shall tell you anyways!

      There is a big night out locally in a month and a half, a mascarade ball. I finally have given myself a reason to skip back into my fully beaded champagne gown with lace thigh high that lightly conforms to the silhouette of ones body and leaves so much still to the creative imagination. Reason enough for me to get motivated.

      Why leave you guys, you are like the dysfunctional family everyone dreams of. If you have nothing to ruffle a feather, then the old would not shake itself off for new-found growth.

  22. Anonymous says:

    Hey FunDude, the man that killed a woman in Florida was sentenced in life. He met her on POF. She didn’t get a chance to pick up her children. Did he think she was a wh0re because she was a single mom and was dating again?

    A woman gave birth to each of you. I pretend a Cyclops did, based on half of what comes out o some men’s mouths. However, as Elaine said already. Change your outlook on women and you will receive a different outcome. Ever watch the movie “Hitch”? Many men like women “for real” and not all men just want a “piece” only. Anyone can have sex. Sounds like you may need more sexy than others do and if you were served properly with a decent partner and someone who’s company you actually enjoy, you might stop your ridiculous quest to shame every woman on earth. I have had my fill. I am done coming to a blog to listen to the same shaming language. It’s time to go start living life and dating again. Signing off. Life is too good to be stuck in the mindset of “here” any longer.

    • Anonymous says:

      Good riddance with your bad English

    • Fundude says:

      Women need to meet in public places for their “first meeting” with a man. Caution is intelligent.

      You had a brother, father, uncle, etc. but your level of vitriol towards men is truly disgusting right? A father donated his DNA to all of you!

      I don’t take my information about gender relations from movies such as “Hitch”.

      Ergo, your should get knowledge from more sources than movies. Only a feminist could quote a fictional movie about gender relations.

  23. Fundude says:

    Check out all the strong independent women of Florida fighting to KEEP lifetime alimony:

    {{{{{http://floridapolitics.com/archives/193015-womens-group-calls-on-gov-scott-to-reject-tom-lees-proposed-alimony-bill}}}}

    Whats the matter ladies? I thought you were all so strong and independent?

    I guess feminists like “tradition” when it benefits them huh.

  24. there is an endless supply of over 40 divorcees , over 50 GMILFs, and random over 35 train wrecks with multiple kids from different men stationed at your local suburban watering hole , on plenty of fish , and okcupid willing to give it up for free if you promise them a relationship or if they think they will obtain their fifth wedding band with you . why pay for expired milk ?

    • elaine says:

      “willing to give it for free if you promise them a relationship or if they think they will obtain their fifth wedding band with you”

      Because not all men are assholes and feel comfortable by making promising they are never going to keep only to get in a woman’s pants maybe? :-)

      • Anonymous says:

        Why should men want relationships with older women?

        If they don’t have money, they offer nothing.

      • Elaine .. the greater moral question to ask is why would a woman feel it necessary to marry 4 times and/or have multiple illegitimate kids from different men than to question the motives of horny , yet stable and educated , men .

      • Anonymous says:

        Feminists never put the responsibility of bad action on women.

        A woman who is a whore with many bastard children, divorces, etc are abused according to feminists.

        Its only the hard working, successful men who are the bad person because they want sex if there is an allowance lol

      • Josh says:

        “motives of horny , yet stable and educated , men .”

        Which men are you talking about? You are an illiterate pastor.

        If you were indeed talking about yourself, then your personal story has changed AGAIN. Stick to biblical stories…there’s enough material on the Internet to plagiarize from.

      • elaine says:

        @UnrealDave

        I wouldn’t know, as it is too far from my own reality.
        As far as I understand from your post at least those women don’t seem to lie about what they are searching.

        I just answered on your sentence:
        “willing to give it up for free if you promise them a relationship or if they think they will obtain their fifth wedding band with you . why pay for expired milk ?”

        And I answered: “because SOME men choose not to be jerks and lie to get in her pants”

        Cheers :-)

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Elaine
        @SerialRapistDave brags about driving women to isolated areas, and forcing them to have sex with him or he will abandon them there … and THEN has the audacity to write on here that “they enjoyed it.”

        Having any discussion with him is like trying to reason with a serial killer. He’s completely detached from morality AND reality.

      • elaine says:

        I think it is more of a lack of IQ matter.

        My breastsize is larger. 😉

      • Frank95 says:

        That had better be in inches Elaine. It doesn’t work for us metric types. 😉

    • Anonymous says:

      Dave great post. Keep it up with these gems.

      These old whores are crazy,

      • elaine says:

        @Anonymous

        Did it really take you 11 MINUTES to come up with this insult?

        It is getting old you know, if you constantly want to show your ignorance by name calling, at least come up with something original!

        Cheers :-)

      • Frank95 says:

        I subscribe to the theory that these guys are “christians”, ostensibly doing the Lard’s Work by disrupting the site and making it an unwelcoming place for SBs and SDs.

        Of course, they are really just voyeurs, using the name of the Lard as a sort of sheep’s clothing to cover that voyeurism.

        Mind you, responding to them is a waste of time. But it’s your time to waste. :)

    • Anonymous says:

      DAVE … just go to those watering holes for that endless supply of women who you think deserve your abuse … you can then drive them to isolated areas and demand they have sex with you or you will dump them there (as you write that you like to do). Or is it harder to find “victims” when they see your face first?

  25. Anonymous says:

    No one gives shit about Josh’s omega opinions.

    Vixen is boring as shit as well.

    • Josh says:

      Name all of the no ones. 😉

    • Josh says:

      Hmmm…before @DamnVixen you would have called me beta…now you got educated by her and using omega. LOL!!!

      • DamnVixen says:

        HAHAHA! I noticed that too. The change-over from “beta” to “omega” after I explained the difference to these “Falphas” (my new favorite label, thanks to Estephanya – “Fake Alphas”).

      • Estephanya says:

        I only speaketh my observations. Plus I’ve met and turned down enough Falfas to be able to read their actions like the pop-up story book from the dollar store that they are. 😉 You’re welcome Vixen.

    • elaine says:

      @Anonymous

      Glad your postings are so substantial and interesting! :-)

  26. Dr Feelgood says:

    @Damn Vixen likes sex. That is how it should be.

    My experience in the Bowl has been the opposite. Very few of many SB relationships have really centered around sex . Most girls are here for support and experiences. That is not to say that my SBs have not provided the requisite sexual services that I need . But there is a difference between truly loving sex and providing it as a necessary codicil in the Sugar contract . YMMV as they say ,but few girls are turned on sexually by a man her Father or Grandfather’s age .

    I see many females in my medical practice ,and treat HSDD ALL the time(hypo active sexual desire disorder) It is alarming how prevalent it is -even in young women .

    So SDs ,don’t expect to find many Damn Vixens out there who are into sexual pleasuring . The SBs will do what they have to do to get the gold, but don’t expect to get their soul

    • elaine says:

      “but few girls are turned on sexually by a man her Father or Grandfather’s age”

      Denggggg!!!

      And that is exactly one of the reasons a LOT of men here are looking for older mistresses.
      They in general have less sexual hang ups, more self confidence, more experience and are more interested in sex (experiments) and are genuinely enjoying it.
      To quote @Southern: “they have turned from babymachines into playstations”

      Those men feel more comfortable being around with a woman not clearly “their niece” , feel uncomfortable having sex with girls that could be their (grand)daughter BFF, they feel less ashamed when Willy appears to have taken a day off and they feel better about their own older bodies.

      And this was only about the PHYSICAL part of the arrangements…. 😉

      • SDaddy says:

        Maybe I have Mommy/daughter issues but I would rather have a naive 20 yr old bed mate than an experienced age appropriate one. 2 of my previous SBs were near 50 and stunning ladies ,but I needed that young girl instead . That is “my thing” I guess.

        A Pro I saw in my Mongering days yrs ago was in her 40s,a former Porn actress, and in great shape. She introduced me to back door play and it was shitty. Why ever waste a perfectly good vagina?

      • Anonymous says:

        Most men aren’t interested in women their own age.

        That is why they are on a website that advertises itself for sugar babies.

        The term itself is very clear

      • elaine says:

        @SDaddy

        Everybody has his preferences, to each his own. :-)
        Nothing wrong by wanting diversity, nice to hear you had two 50yo SBs too.

        Posted this in a reaction to @Dr.Feelgood’s post and because older women here are usually ridiculed and called “old hags”, “fantasywriters”, “old vags”, “not worth a penny of allowance”, “post wall” etc.

        They come and complain about SBs not being interested in sex with them (which is quite normal in case of big age gaps) but then give offense to women that DO openly admit to enjoy sex with their SDs, such as @Vixen.

        Sour grapes for them being “TOLERATED” instead of “WANTED”? 😉

      • elaine says:

        Wrong @Anonymous!

        There is a group of people here that are searching for something else, but since there is no appropriate website for that purpose, they use SA.

        You would be astonished to know how many men are explicitly NOT looking for a young “baby” but for an older mistress.

      • noname says:

        elaine do you really beleive that have you not heard of age gap relationships younger women not all of course do like older men just like some men like older women it just something some people prefer ive seen some older ladies on differenent sites but stay away from them because they are looking for some one to get married to or something like marriage im not married and have no desire to get married so i stay away from these ladies this comment is not a attack to you i know your a mistress and thats one area i feel a older lady can compete and be better than a younger lady so lets lighten up and post something positive

      • Anonymous says:

        I would be interested in women my age if they all didn’t look 10-15 years older. It leaves me with no choice but to go 10-12 years down

      • Anonymous says:

        That’s especially true for white women. No offense I know there are exceptions but you see a white couple in their late 40’s- 50’s and it looks like the man is out with his mother.

        You kind of have to marry them 15-20 years younger than you so by the time she’s 40 and you’re 60 you’ll match.

      • Anonymous says:

        Not always. I find that certain older men in their 40′ s, 50′ s and well beyond have a delusional view on what they really look like. even if they are fat they think they are in shape. Bald?? Nope, they are still young and hot. They look in the mirror and see themselves as not having aged much when they have. I see the delusion of what they think they look like even on profiles of Seeking Arrangement, when looks should not matter as much.The really brazen ones will list their age as 40 or 50 when they are clearly in their late 60′ s or early 70’s.

        The man who thinks the average 40 year old woman looks the same age as an average 60 year old man is a prime example of this self delusion :(

    • DamnVixen says:

      @DrFeelgood
      Many of the men who comment on this blog have no intention of being a Sugar Daddy and are just leaving comments to abuse members of this site. So nothing that they write can be taken seriously as an actual “opinion” about sugar dating OR sex. They just insult everyone.

    • FatB'StardSA says:

      @DrFeelGood

      “The SBs will do what they have to do to get the gold, but don’t expect to get their soul”

      I was not looking to have children with any of my SB’s nor was I interested in a real relationship with any of them so why would I have cared if I could not get my SB’s soul?

  27. Dr Feelgood says:

    ” No sex. Looking for companionship only ” So here’s a profile comment in my area by a 20 yr old “collage” girl whose pic shows a sexy,attractive young girl leaning back against the wall with her short skirt hiked up ,legs apart ,and bikini undies showing her camel toe. Her bra-less boobs show a little nipple.

    So for our amateur psychologists out there,what is the dynamic going on here ?

    • elaine says:

      1. Still in the denial stage.
      2. Too much time spend on IG / SA fantasy blogs
      3. A teaser / rinser
      4. Covering up her real activities for eventual F&F stumbling upon her profile.
      5. A clueless airhead

  28. FatB'StardSA says:

    @DamnVixen

    The only “man” who appreciates your posts is @Josh, the biggest asshole the blog has ever experienced.

    Have a nice day :-).

    By the way…do you assume every man who does not kiss your ass is gay?

    • Josh says:

      Truth be told, I’d rather have @SugarySpicey back than seeing @Pastor Dave et.al., go on with their shtick.

      • elaine says:

        Maybe the blog wasn’t all that bad in those days…..
        Sometimes we even talked about the sugar life style then! :-)

        There is a lot of bloggers I miss..

      • Josh says:

        I agree @elaine. Maybe you want to ask her to come back if she’s interested AT ALL?

      • elaine says:

        Never spoke to her since “you know when”.
        And was not particularly talking about her either.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Josh

        You were the asshole who wanted to expose @PriceySpicey’s real identity on the blog and now you ask that @Elaine invite @PriceySpicey back to the blog.

        @DamnVixen

        This is the character of the only male blogger who likes your writing…

      • Josh says:

        You have no idea who gave me the “@PriceySpicey’s real identity”, which was “exposed” by herself in the older pages of the blog. So it was not exposing anything, per se…just regurgitating older blog posts.

        As far as I am concerned, you are “exposing” something about me from the older blog pages.

        Comparatively-speaking @SugarySpicey was 100 times more entertaining. I would rather read her posts than the non-stop insultathon run by @Pastor Dave and @FunDude

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Josh

        I remember you took great delight in posting about how you could find @PriceySpicey’s real identity and then complained when your own email address was posted on the blog.

        You still cannot admit you were being an asshole.

      • Josh says:

        Your “recollections” are incorrect. For your information, me myself and I posted my email on the blog for people to contact me. I guess that your research is still faulty. Keep working at it and you will be able to reconstruct real @FB’s persona. 😉

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Josh

        My recollections are fine. You posted an email which someone used to link to another site.

        The Guru remove the problem posts (some at your request).

        You still cannot admit you were an asshole.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Josh

        If @PriceySpicey were to post about this experience again I am sure she would remember things my way…

      • Josh says:

        I am sure she can. Women remember things forever. I don’t. Sorry.

    • I bet she considers, literally, a “big assh0le” to be a challenge .

    • Josh says:

      @Paster Dave does not like to spell whore, asshole, etc., properly…Maybe G-d could be fooled that way? 😉

    • DamnVixen says:

      WRONG – FatB’StardSA
      There are the 5 or so “Falphas” that hate me. But you’ll notice, when another man comes here to read, like DrFeelgood or that Mark guy … and others … they always side with me and like my posts. (And send me private emails.)

      But then all of you assholes jump all over them and call them “Betas” …

      I assume men are gay … when they prefer the company and posts of other men, and everything they write about is how much they hate women and how women are the source of all the problems in the world, AND when they add to that, their own tales of having few women as lovers. Yanno … I just do the math, and it all adds up to repressed homosexuality.

      Just come out of the closet already and you’ll be much happier!!! Gay men love to suck cock for free. Then you don’t have to complain any more about women who charge you for it.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Id disagree that this is an accurate representation of gay men :(

      • Anonymous says:

        DampChicken and her homophobia again, great

      • Fundude says:

        There are only a few guys who post here generally.

        Ergo, the analysis that the majority of regular male posters aren’t supportive of you has to be negated by some faulty logic.

        The only one that was a clear omega was “Magic” Mark. Come on, look at the dude lol

  29. WTF says:

    can some one please daddy these two girls and give them their lollypop, so that they can shut up and we can move on with this blog .

  30. Josh says:

    @Estephanya

    “I want to know why they call Josh a guru. HAHAHAHA.”

    Because he is. 😉

    • Estephanya says:

      I can see. :) I’m curious to know why they try to make it sound as though that’s a bad thing… I wholeheartedly believe these “men” (again, using the term ever so loosely) spew words without actually knowing the definitions to them.

    • Josh says:

      They are challenged in their inability to:

      1. Comprehend what’s written.
      2. Come to logical conclusion based on the information available/provided to them.
      3. Acquiring knowledge and understanding through thought, experience, and the senses.

      Their prime game or modus operandi is: put downs, put downs and more put downs. It’s their version of fun they draw from the blog.

  31. Josh says:

    @Anonymous

    “Josh was, is, and always will be the GURU of this blog. Some things are ever present”

    That is partially correct. We used to have @SD Guru, who decided to stop posting in the spring of 2014. I miss my guru. :(

  32. Anonymous says:

    It is sad that “gay” is being used on this blog as an insult. Which century are these people living in?

    • Anonymous says:

      I agree, and I said this before. Close-mindeds like DampChicken seem to have made it routine on the blog now

    • DamnVixen says:

      @Anonymous
      Let me make this very clear … I don’t consider “GAY” as an insult. I like gay people.

      “Closet Gay” and “Repressed Homosexual” … are the terms that I use. Because I truly believe that a lot of the crap that we are seeing is men who are VERY insecure in their sexuality. They are threatened by women. They are DEFINITELY threatened by homosexuals. AND generally, based on a lot of studies that I have read … men who are most aggressively anti-homosexual, do have the strongest sexual response to homosexual pornography … hence … “Closet Gay.”

      They just need to come out of the closet and embrace life and be happy. They spend too much time here being pissed at the world and hating women, homosexuals, and “beta/omega” males.

  33. DamnVixen says:

    :-) A “man” who thinks that the blog is BORING, except for the posts of Dave and Fatbastard??? And they WONDER why we suspect that they are gay. If you have no interest in reading/interacting with women … why don’t you go to an “all-boy” forum???

    Anonymous says:
    December 28, 2015 at 7:59 pm
    This place is boring as SHIT when I leave, except for the posts by Dave and Fatbastard.

    Vixen is on her bullshit “psychology” rant about how we are “insecure” of strong older women lol.

    Honey, no one is “insecure” around you. You just don’t like how we speak to you and are pissed off.

    Then we have the “guru” who has come out as some weak omega that kisses Vixen’s ass because she was nice to him once.

    This place needs to get better ASAP!!!!

    • Estephanya says:

      I want to know why they call Josh a guru. HAHAHAHA.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Estephanya
        Because apparently, Josh had referred to himself as being a “guru” of the SA blog or something. So they repeat it (like it’s an insult) and he owns it.

        As you can see, in the “Falfa” world, any man who likes women and is nice to women is a “weak omega” and kissing ass. “REAL MEN” don’t like women. And apparently they don’t like sex. And haven’t had many sex partners. And women who like sex are “whores.”

        It’s a really depressing world that they live in. It’s no wonder they are so angry.

      • Estephanya says:

        Do they not understand that Alpha and Omega go hand in hand? Alpha is the beginning, whereas Omega is the end. If anything… Wouldn’t the END be more powerful than the BEGINNING? Or at very least an equal, within rights, considering both of their meanings.

      • Anonymous says:

        Josh was, is, and always will be the GURU of this blog. Some things are ever present

      • Anonymous says:

        That is really creepy.

      • Anonymous says:

        {{Josh was, is, and always will be the GURU of this blog. Some things are ever present}}

        Josh wrote that.

    • FatB'StardSA says:

      @DamnVixen

      Your ego is getting bigger and bigger. That blog poster finds you boring, not women in general.

      Have a nice day :-).

  34. Estephanya says:

    This is why we can’t have nice things! People resort to having conversations with themselves via “Anonymous” posts. Despite what you may believe or what your equally imbecilic friends tell you: you aren’t cool. Haha. I see the same 3 or 4 individuals being extremely negative. I’m wondering if you “gentlemen” (I use that term rather loosely) were bullied or abused and rejected and now feel powerful writing such asinine words behind the safety of your computer screens (maybe even your phones). Because, and I would bet my weight in gold 10x over, that you all would never have the gall to say anything in real life. Falfas [Fake Alphas] hold no real power in their lives – so they take their frustration out on others because they can not take control of their own leashes. You all seem to claim “Alpha” – yet you haven’t the slightest idea as to what that even means. You aren’t being the most dominant, powerful or assertive by picking fights with those you speak of as “inferior”. That actually makes you look weak. But that’s just the opinion of someone I’m sure those that I just easily offended will resort to name calling and throwing their feces at like the monkeys you seem to be. Although, that’s actually very offensive towards primates. They’re MUCH more intelligent. 😛

  35. WTF says:

    wow wow vixen does needs a life

    • Anonymous says:

      Vixen needs to stop giving enemas or fucking old men in the ass with dildos as well for money.

      • Anonymous says:

        I know. It’s sad to see her on here like this

      • Anonymous says:

        why are these old women such whores?

      • Anonymous says:

        All western women are whores. It’s not their fault. They’re a construct of the machine

      • Anonymous says:

        If all Western women are wh0res, then that’s because they have to be to get laid anymore because they are all sharing the straight men since so many are fags. Now, put that in your pipe and smoke it.

      • Anonymous says:

        Oh, lest we forget the other portion of the men are now changing genders so they to can have their new puss and their anal cavity probed by a man, once they reconstruct their identity. So, you have no leg to stand on anymore with your hate on women. It is played out. The proof is showing. Your recorder is crying a new tune to wolf.

      • Anonymous says:

        Yep too many fags and men of quality won’t give them the time of day. It’s a rough world for the Western woman right now

    • Estephanya says:

      Why are you having a conversation with yourself? On a topic that has nothing to do with what you’re inferring, no less. Pull yourself together, person of whom has no gender because they are merely “anonymous” and “WTF”.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Estephanya
        Isn’t it interesting that so many “Falfas” come to a Sugar Dating site, just so that they can call women who like sex “whores”???

      • Estephanya says:

        I think it’s interesting that they feel SO emasculated in their lives that they need to come to a forum to “talk sh*t” to the same people they probably get rejected by on a regular basis 😀 As I’ve stated before… Entertaining. LOL. They’re so transparent it’s borderline plaintive. If you feel inadequate, you become inadequate. And that behavior is ineptitude at it’s finest.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Estephanya
        Exactly. You see it. I see it. And THEY don’t realize that everyone else can see it.

        Men who are happy and secure and in great relationships and having sex don’t go on to internet chat boards and call women whores, and complain about feminists destroying the world.

        That’s the behavior of sad, fat, jealous little boys, sitting in momma’s basement, thinking of every girl in high school who rejected them.

        Keep this in mind whenever you see them rendering “advice” to the girls on this site about sugar-dating issues.

      • Estephanya says:

        “advice”
        I can’t help but to believe it’s more along the lines of obstruction 😀

  36. you know the world has gone to hell in a hand basket when a bunch of wh0res make an attempt at interpreting criminal justice and forensic science .

  37. Anonymous says:

    This place is boring as SHIT when I leave, except for the posts by Dave and Fatbastard.

    Vixen is on her bullshit “psychology” rant about how we are “insecure” of strong older women lol.

    Honey, no one is “insecure” around you. You just don’t like how we speak to you and are pissed off.

    Then we have the “guru” who has come out as some weak omega that kisses Vixen’s ass because she was nice to him once.

    This place needs to get better ASAP!!!!

    • Josh says:

      Posting as Anonymous now, @Pastor Dave?

    • DamnVixen says:

      @Anonymous
      I’m not the least big pissed off, because I have sex and adventure on a regular basis. I have a great arrangement.

      I’m just here to laugh at all the sexually repressed “Falfas” and how they hang out on a sugar dating site just to call “western women” “whores.” I know those words only come out of men who can’t get laid and are bitterly angry about it.

      • Anonymous says:

        She’s delusional but what can one expect from someone taking so many mood altering medications…

      • Anonymous says:

        None of this makes sense. You come here to insult the men that insult you? How is that any more mature than a teenager?

  38. Josh says:

    @Pastor Dave,

    “they usually see my horse and immediately consent .. I could make that unicorn jealous baby !”

    Your personal stories keep changing…you might want to stick with Biblical stories instead.

  39. Ambrosia says:

    Ok Troopers, gather ’round the campfire. Vixen has given everyone encouragement to show us that, we cannot find an activity that produces a new perspective and mental edge by tryin something just once or for one day. It takes trial and error and she has gained a great deal of experience.

    What have learned today? That most people know more about their cars than actually how their own body works. I am not saying I am going to try skydiving tomorrow, but I certainly can see she is one whom advice from, would be a benefit and she thinks outside of the box and in the box when called for.

  40. I decided to read this article … ” arrangements are like snowflakes” .. oh brother , it about made me gag harder than a damnvapid 5 horsepower prostate destroyer .

    • Ambrosia says:

      But I bet she makes her students eyes light up. Do your students only see the light when the car door opens?

      Just asking…

    • Anonymous says:

      All this snowflake, “special”, and Disney crap is really getting old fast

      • Anonymous says:

        From one anonymous to another, then give us something to make our toes curl and our body purr.

      • Anonymous says:

        This is a blog. idaf if anyone’s toes curl or body purrs. Also don’t get what this blog has to do with irl which is what I was talking about

  41. Josh says:

    @FatB’StardSA

    “@Josh

    Did you read that @Josh? If you thought her writing is interesting then why not take a chance and see how exciting it is to have @DamnVixen shove a dildo in your ass?”

    I have repeatedly said that I have no interest in pursuing @DamnVixen sexually as she is too far away.

    I have repeatedly said that she writes GOOD…and I am sticking to my assessment.

  42. Ambrosia says:

    I must say, I chuckled heartily over the “I-21” remark.

  43. Anonymous says:

    Maybe the DreadfulRave and the DrearyWaxen can get a room?
    This forum has never been more boring… Bring back the FunDud?

  44. @damnvapid at this point my concern is that you don’t get arrested according to the Affordable Health Care Act . you get paid $10k per month to give what amounts to a non-physician assisted colonoscopy. you’re not giving your clients the chance to meet their deductible or obtain a negotiated rate.

    • DamnVixen says:

      Well … first, you should learn to read, Dave. I never claimed my SD pays me $10k a month.

      And apparently you don’t know what a colonoscopy is.

      Or that the Affordable Health Care Act doesn’t contain any “criminal” penalties.

      **tsk, tsk**
      Aren’t very bright, are you?

      • is that unicorn in your pic sporting the latest prostate massager ?

      • DamnVixen says:

        Why Dave? Wanna borrow it?

        I promise I won’t tell anyone. 😉

      • that’s animal cruelty … my dear … however no thank you . if I wanted strange fluted objects shoved up my poop chute I’m pretty sure I can find cheaper ways to do it than soliciting your services or equipment. .

      • DamnVixen says:

        Well … @Dave who admits to conning a minor into having sex (on this blog) and into “conning” women on this site into having sex (by taking them to remote areas and threatening to leave them there) … draws the line at bestiality.

        Is that because the little horsey is able to fight back?
        @AdmittedSerialRapistDave

      • they usually see my horse and immediately consent .. I could make that unicorn jealous baby !

      • DamnVixen says:

        Awww … if they immediately CONSENT @serialrapistDave, then why have you had so FEW sexual partners???

      • it’s like a nuclear weapon my lovely Bung hole expert . I only deploy it when necessary

    • DamnVixen says:

      @serialrapistDave
      And WHY do you use the description of “conning” them … and threatening to abandon them in a remote location … in order to get them to have sex with you?

      Only a serial rapist is going to think that is something to BRAG about on the blogs here, and not realize that what they are bragging about is illegal.

      Keep it up … and you’ll end up in prison … and I promise, when you get there, your “colon” won’t remain a virgin for long.

      • DamnVixen says:

        Hell … when I find your profile (I haven’t started looking yet, but I’m willing to bet you linked to it somewhere). I’d be happy to turn it over to the local authorities, so they can review your emails with these girls to determine whether you have actually forced sex from these girls under threat of leaving them in a remote area.

        If I get bored tomorrow (or if any kind reader wants to point me to the pages with those posts) … maybe I’ll make that my little project.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @DamnVixen

        Why do you need to find @Dave’s profile? You should use your analytical abilities to create a profile so accurate that the authorities can find @Dave without any problem.

      • go for it … not enough hairy azzez on your schedule for tomorrow ?

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FatB’StardSA
        Dave is a despicable piece of human waste, if you can’t tell, by his BRAGGING about RAPING women (including a 17 year old minor) on this site. AND … if you scroll down … claiming the 17 year old enjoyed it.

        Do you condone that? @FatB’StardSA? Do you think raping 17 year old girls is sexy too?

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @DamnVixen

        I don’t condone rape at all. It is a serious crime. That said:

        I don’t think having sex with a 17 year old is rape if she consented. I don’t think that telling a woman to get out of my car (or house) if she is not going to have sex with me is rape. I don’t think a woman changing her mind the next day about having sex with someone is rape. I don’t think not paying an allowance to a platonic SB is rape.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FatB’StardSA
        Then you don’t know the statutory definition of rape.
        In most states, it takes simple coercion and fear of harm … which leaving a woman abandoned in a remote location – meets that definition.

        Having sex with a 17 year old – is statutory rape, in jurisdictions where the age of consent is 18. Since Dave has gone to such lengths to try to “qualify” what he did, with excuses of saying that she SAID she was 18 and he didn’t “know” until “after” … demonstrates that he is living in a jurisdiction where 18 is the age of consent.

        Since Dave is over the age of 25 … there is no “Romeo and Juliet” law that absolves him of being prosecuted for having sex with a 17 year old.

        He COULD raise, as a DEFENSE, that he didn’t know her age. That is a mere “defense” to a statutory crime and for a jury to decide.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @DamnVixen

        Allow me to retort…

        “Having sex with a 17 year old – is statutory rape, in jurisdictions where the age of consent is 18. Since Dave has gone to such lengths to try to “qualify” what he did, with excuses of saying that she SAID she was 18 and he didn’t “know” until “after” … demonstrates that he is living in a jurisdiction where 18 is the age of consent.”

        SA requires SB’s to be a minimum of 18 years of age. Dave could not have looked for a 17 year old on SA even if he wanted to. @Dave brought up the fact that his SB lied about her age to use the SA site. Your argument that @Dave’s comments prove he is in a state where the age of consent is 18 makes no sense.

        “Then you don’t know the statutory definition of rape.
        In most states, it takes simple coercion and fear of harm … which leaving a woman abandoned in a remote location – meets that definition.”

        As far as I know @Dave claimed he told them they would have to leave his car if they were not interested in sex. Your claims of @Dave leaving SB’s in an “abandoned/remote/dangerous” place is an embellishment and typical of the hysteria the feminist SB’s create on the blog.

        Have a nice day :-).

      • Kore says:

        @FB It’s not cool to dump a 17 year old somewhere where she feels she feels that she has to ‘risk’ walking home or have sex with the guy who just gave her the ultimatum. I’m 25 and I still fell uncomfortable walking places in the dark in some large cities. It’s something Dave has said he’d done, not something people are making up..

        Yes, she lied about her age, but it’s not called “jailbait” for no reason.

  45. @ damnVapid … allow me to show you my appreciation and respect for your career choice . being on the ass end (one that most likely was not cleaned by way of enema) of a possibly dangerous anal projectile without
    hazard pay, OSHA protection , and at least a stint on Discovery Channel’s Dirty Jobs, is a task only a strong independent woman can handle . you are correct , I’m not half the man you are …

    • DamnVixen says:

      @Dave
      Agreed.
      You should grow a pair.
      Maybe you would hate the world less and be a happier person.
      Sex is actually a fun thing. You’re really missing out.

      • So In your eyes I’m a Virgin until my lower intestinal tract is breached ?

      • DamnVixen says:

        By your own description, your sexual experience is so limited as to make you a near virgin.

      • DamnVixen says:

        Most men graduate high school having had sex with more women than you have.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        Count me in as one of the near virgins!

        In my defense I never saw the need to cheat on my GF’s as I found them more attractive than most women I could be with and I never had the desire to look for a dominatrix who would be willing to shove a dildo up my ass.

        Maybe I am a just a repressed homosexual though…

      • @fat bastard .. I fear for a future where I will have to ask a potential wife if she’s ever worn a strap-on or has penetrated another man’s anus with mechanical or electrical devices .

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Dave & Fat
        These responses have been truly enlightening. “Alpha” males living lives of sexual repression and fear. It’s no wonder you’re so angry.

        It has to just KILL you that there are other men and women out there having incredible sexual adventures and encounters. It explains why you hang out on this blog and attack people.

        Little kids peering in the window of a candy store at treats they will never have. That they COULD have … if they just stopped acting like complete ASSHOLES to everyone.

        Maybe one day, you both will figure it out. I promise, you’ll be a lot happier, and the world won’t be such a SCARY place.

      • @damnvapid .. im not scared of the world but definitely scared of what is under your fingernails. please never open up a restaurant or manufacturer consumer food products .

      • Anonymous says:

        lol Dave agree. This old lady must be loaded with STIs

  46. Josh says:

    @Pastor Dave is back to evangelize the rest of us. :(

    • Josh you’re right … I’ve had so few sexual experiences with women that the Vatican accepted my application for Cardinal .

      • DamnVixen says:

        #notsurprised

      • DamnVixen says:

        You should have plenty of access to innocent altar boys while you are there too, Dave. Then you wouldn’t have to come here to brag about taking sexual advantage of 17 year old girls. (Dave actually wrote this.)

        Cheers.

      • Kore says:

        😀 😀 😀 That was funny. 😀

      • then I would be stealing business from you damnvapid!!

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Dave
        But … DAVE … I don’t fuck little innocent altar boys, remember?
        I play naked Bingo and “Doctor” with my old AARP, Sugar Daddy.

        Minors are YOUR forte, aren’t they Dave? That’s what you wrote, anyway. Right?

      • I had a 17 year old FEMALE on SA claim she was 18. didn’t know until after i conned her. she was probably lying like most women on here like you, and was loaded up on narcotics .

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Dave
        Better go turn yourself in then, Dave.
        That’s statutory rape. She couldn’t have legally consented.
        And then … by your stories about how you “conned” them was taking them to a remote area and saying you would leave them there … that’s also rape.

        By your own stories you’ve posted here, Dave. You’re a serial rapist.

      • I hate to brag my dear but after we were done she said she enjoyed it and began fingering herself in the passenger seat … pretty sure it was all consent …

      • DamnVixen says:

        The serial rapist has decided that his 17 year old MINOR victim ENJOYED it. Because her HANDS went to her VAGINA afterwards.

        Couldn’t be that you HURT her? @serialrapistDave

        For all you know … the girl was saving something for a rape kit later. I’d be looking over your shoulder, if I were you, Dave.

      • want to hear something crazy my dear anal prober? she messaged me again after !!

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @DamnVixen

        What is the age of consent in Dave’s state?

      • Kore says:

        @FB What DAve wants.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FB
        Dave’s pretty much confirmed, he doesn’t care if there is consent.
        AND the fact that she has emphasized that she was 17 and claims she LIED about being 18 and he “didn’t know” she was 17 until “after” … confirms that he is living in a state where the age of consent is 18.

        Otherwise … he wouldn’t have made an issue about it.

        I was a litigator for many years. It’s very easy to notice these things when you are accustomed to it.

      • Kore says:

        @Vixen My first boyfriend had sex with a girl who was 16 who also lied about her age being 18 (with her height, etc, she could have passed for 18) and I’ve heard a couple of other stories where under aged girls have lied about age..

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Kore
        There’s something called “Romeo and Juliet” laws, where if the guy is within a few years of age of the girl, the statutory rape provisions don’t apply.

        So any time you see men claiming they were arrested or prosecuted, but they were 18 or 19 and the girl was 16 or 17, it’s bullshit. And BEFORE the Romeo and Juliet laws, police/state attorneys didn’t prosecute if the guy and girl were close in age.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Kore
        I believe Dave has relayed that his age is in his early 40’s …. by his own stories, he has “conned” girls he thought were trying to con him. One, he says was 17 but claims he thought she was 18. He says he takes them to remote areas and then tells them they must have sex with him or he will abandon them there.

        Now … let’s think about this. How shrewd is the 17 or 18 year old girl in “conning” the 40 year old man? Who really had the leg up on who? Who had the power? How exactly did “Dave” think he was being conned, when the girl got into a car with him?

        So there’s no need to discuss you boyfriend or any other guys who possibly had girls lie to them about your age.

        By Dave’s own stories … he is a predator.

      • Kore says:

        Dave’s story is messed up because of his feelings, but I don’t think he’s malicious exactly. I know of a very sexy guy (7/10, xxl dick and amazing personality; I never slept with) who ended up sexing a girl who lied aboutbeing 16 when he was around 30. She was in the news as a missing person for the short time she decided to run away from home. 😀

        Dave’s messed up but I think he’s sweet when it actually comes to being around women. His frustrations probably lay a great deal in not being able to empower himself in their presence. He reminds me a great deal of a very handsome Mexican friend I had, 8/10.
        He swore about his ex (at then) wife a lot and even more about the girls he slept with.. He was very, VERY nice around them and then quit relations when they pissed him off. He was over sensitive and took their BS way too seriously for his own good.

      • Kore says:

        This guy found out she wa

      • Kore says:

        s missing after the ONS!*

        The Mexican friend swore at not about*

    • DamnVixen says:

      @Josh
      Yup. Dave missed his calling as a “Fire and Brimstone” preacher who thinks sex is sin and homosexuals are evil (because they give him a warm feeling in his pants).

    • FatB'StardSA says:

      “For Christmas, I bought my SD a prostate massager with the promise of some kinky experiments with it in the future.”

      My name is @Josh and i approve of this message!

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FatB’StardSA
        – If he’s interested in increasing his sexual pleasure to levels you’ll apparently never know … yes.

        Such prudes, these “Alpha” males.
        No idea of all that sex has to offer.
        Very sad for you.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Josh

        Did you read that @Josh? If you thought her writing is interesting then why not take a chance and see how exciting it is to have @DamnVixen shove a dildo in your ass?

    • Estephanya says:

      This is absolutely entertaining. There are very closed (perhaps even small) minded individuals in these forums. Just because you have never tried something (short of illegal), doesn’t mean you have to knock it. Try something new and broaden your horizons. People only fear the things they don’t understand. Once you build a knowledge base and gain some experience, you no longer have to fear :)

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Estephanya
        There are a group of men who just can’t seem to leave this blog, who admit that they don’t participate in “Sugar Dating” and who just create a completely hostile environment here.

        So yes. They are sexually repressed. Closed-minded. Angry. Hate women. Hate men who love women. (The one, Dave, has BRAGGED on these pages to what amount to at least 2-3 acts of “rape” – one against a 17 year old girl. If you missed, he later “bragged” that she enjoyed it after.) Sick individuals. Not even entertaining.

      • Estephanya says:

        If they do not engage in “sugar dating”… Why are they on a SUGAR DATING based website?? LOL. And that’s very disturbing. I read some of his weak attempts at verbal sparring. Not the very intellectually sound individual he seems to perceive himself to be. Side note: your posts make me laugh 😛

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Estephanya
        EXACTLY!!!
        I visited this blog when I first came to this site, to look for tips from women and men about how to do things. In maybe a day or two, I left because of the constant attacks and hate (but luckily made friends with about a half-dozen women who maintained contact through email).
        NOW, I cam back after some success, to share advice – (and to look at what was being written, based on what the women were telling me) … and the same stuff is going on.

        If you read through the posts … some of them feel the need to “out” sugar dating as immoral/prostitution (DAVE) … or force their political agenda on people (FunDude) … or just generally SHIT on everyone (FatBastard, IHF).

        It’s jealousy and anger.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Estephanya
        You can email me at damn.vixen@y… … and I can give you tips and feedback. This forum is useless for any kind of productive discussion, and the “blog” articles on this site, are for the most part, completely unrealistic.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Estephanya
        You can get rid of that legal disclaimer on your profile.
        It’s useless.
        This site is a public forum, there’s nothing that you can do, legally, if anyone uses the pictures or information. There is no legal protection whatsoever. AND … you’d have to pay a fortune to hire an attorney and sue, if there was.

      • Estephanya says:

        Thanks @DamnVixen

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        “…or just generally SHIT on everyone (FatBastard,…).”

        This is true.

        I would appreciate if you people would spell my name properly though.

  47. FatB'StardSA says:

    @DamnVixen

    Allow me to retort…

    “Some are threatened by young women who feel overly “entitled””

    Replace “threatened” with “amused”, and your sentence makes more sense.

    ” Others are EXTREMELY threatened by strong, intelligent, older women …”

    I would only ascribe one of the adjectives you have listed to yourself. As this is the Christmas season I will not be specific about which adjective that would be.

    “What you don’t see, is any sign that they are able to have functional relationships with women as their “peers” or “equals””

    I have never had a “match” with a tennis legend or negotiated a contract with Donald Trump. How could I possibly be your equal? Don’t assume that you will find the same caliber of men on the SA blog as you will have following you on AFF.

    “Actually … it makes one wonder if there is some repressed homosexuality.”

    A real man (like your current SD) is secure enough in his sexuality to beg a woman to shove a dildo up his ass and call him a cheap whore. I will just have to suffer with my repressed homosexuality.

    Have a nice day :-).

    • DamnVixen says:

      @FatB’StardSA
      You aren’t my equal.
      That’s why you constantly attack me.
      If you saw me as inferior to you, you wouldn’t take the effort to try to take me down as you do.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @DamnVixen

        I thought

        “I have never had a “match” with a tennis legend or negotiated a contract with Donald Trump. How could I possibly be your equal? Don’t assume that you will find the same caliber of men on the SA blog as you will have following you on AFF.”

        made it clear I could not be your equal.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FatB’StardSA
        I’m glad we are at least in agreement on that point.

        And for the record, I never claimed I negotiated a contract. I was part of a group that denied him the ability to subdivide Maralago and later to turn it into a ridiculous community eyesore – multiple times.

        And I have many photos where I played tennis with Wilander, including the one posted on my profile.

        And the caliber of men I’ve met on AFF (not dated) have included a number of multi-millionaires and politicians. Powerful men are also men with strong libidos.

        In the early years of home internet (late 90’s early 2000’s), when only people who had money or worked in technology had computers and internet at home, it was the EASIEST way to meet VERY successful men from around the world. You demonstrate your lack of knowledge on the issue when you denigrate that site.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @DamnVixen

        We are in agreement. Don’t be so modest though. I am sure your match with Mats was a close one and Donald met his match as well.

        “In the early years of home internet (late 90’s early 2000’s), when only people who had money or worked in technology had computers and internet at home, it was the EASIEST way to meet VERY successful men from around the world.”

        I thought it interesting that you never dated these multi millionaires from AFF, but then you mentioned to me that the men on AFF only want/wanted cheap whores. I don’t understand why these very successful men would be on a site where the only people they would find would be whores with money or whores who worked in technology (who I would assume would not be poor as well). Does not seem like a good strategy at all.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FatB’StardSA
        Once again demonstrating your ignorance.

        In the early days, it was a good site and a great place to meet people. Until Penthouse bought it and destroyed it. It was then bought back by it’s founder, Andrew Conrue who made some changes … but just like THIS site, once it became accessible to any idiot with a mobile phone, the quality of membership went waaayyyy down.

        The “match” with Mats, was mixed doubles, obviously. I guess you’ve demonstrated that you also know nothing about tennis.

  48. Another Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous

    Maybe you should define cheap.

    As to truthfulness, even single guys on this site would prefer to keep their sugar life separate from the rest of their life. So at minimum by omission nearly everybody here keeps secrets or hides something.

  49. Anonymous says:

    why are man cheap on this site and why are they are liers

    • Kore says:

      They probably had to deal with cheap women. Or they’re assholes, but I think they know that that won’t work unless they’ve really got a tonne of money.

    • Anonymous says:

      “some” men are playing games on here just like some women are. It’s going both ways. There are people on both sides who want something for nothing

    • DamnVixen says:

      @Anonymous
      REALITY … most of the men on this site are “voyeurs” and they don’t have any money. In time, you learn to recognize the real from the fake. That takes experience … OR … maybe talking to “mature” and experienced women who can tell the difference for you.

      Some … MAYBE can scrape together a couple hundred dollars on occasion for a single (or maybe twice a month) sexual encounter. That is all that they can afford.

      Of COURSE they like to pretend that they have money and lie … because they might trick you into having sex with them on a promise of getting money in the future, or at very least, they get the entertainment value of you sexting them and sending naked pictures for free.

    • Promise says:

      Because some of them want sex for as little as possible.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Promise
        #Truth

      • Frank95 says:

        And a similar proportion of women want as much money for as little in return as possible.

        Anyone who doesn’t realise that there are lots of people like that in the world (not just here, think bosses who want people to work for next to nothing, and workers who want money, then goof off).

        Anyone who doesn’t realise that should not risk it here. Lol!

        The trick is to be able to recognise the scams and freeloaders right through life, not just here.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Frank95
        I completely agree with this statement.
        I wish that a site like this had existed when I was in my 20’s or early 30’s, because I have found it to be a great learning experience and exercise in how to posture and negotiate, how to collect money that is owed to you, how to spot scams and protect yourself. (Granted, I have had more than my fair share of “fails” …) but the lessons learned here can be applied to work and in life.

  50. Anonymous says:

    Regarding the topic in the blog article- did any of you get an X-mas present from your SB or SD?

    • DamnVixen says:

      We did discuss this. My opinion is that a SD shouldn’t have to buy his SB a present. His $$$ is gift enough, and she can buy her own gift. Most SDs are too busy, and if they previously had wives (or have one currently) … shopping for women is probably a mystery and a source of anxiety.

      For Christmas, I bought my SD a prostate massager with the promise of some kinky experiments with it in the future.

      • I just lost my lunch and half my esophagus reading about kinky experiments with a prostate massager ..

      • Kore says:

        @Dave Relax, kiddo. There’s nothing gay about enjoying yourself. The only thing that’s gay is being attracted to someone of the same gender exclusively.

      • Anonymous says:

        That is true but gifts are always nice surprises! I have never expected Xmas gifts but do appreciate it and love to find people in my life something special just to see the look on their face. I enjoy giving little thoughtful things and the most treasured gifts past SD’s gave were thoughtful gifts that were not all that expensive or something he went to too much trouble to find.

      • DamnVixen says:

        Because @Dave fears sexuality.

      • Anonymous says:

        And yet again

        sighs

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Kore
        There’s nothing wrong with being gay (or bi), for that matter, either.

        What IS bad, is just hating the entire world because you are unhappy with yourself.

  51. what amazes me and truly is perplexing is how humankind survived and even progressed technologically for centuries without “strong independent women”. we should have gone by way of the dinosaur or in a wax museum by now according to the feminists .

    • DamnVixen says:

      Just come out of the closet already, Dave.

      • Anonymous says:

        Annnnnnnd gay card yet again lol

      • don’t you have a bingo game to attend to with your SD ?

      • Anonymous says:

        I-21

        I-21

        Last call for I-21

      • DamnVixen says:

        Because @Dave is afraid of women and afraid of sex and is just here in order to “expose” the world of sugar as “evil.”

      • Anonymous says:

        There you go again Vixen

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Anonymous
        Read Dave’s posts. He’s stated explicitly that is his purpose for being here. He hates this site and he is disgusted by Sugar Arrangements.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Dave
        mmmm … sexy bingo with hot 50 year old men. Sounds awesome! Count me in!!!

        You don’t realize, Dave, the vast majority of men on this site who have actual money for a Sugar Arrangement qualify for AARP and are over 50, right?

        This isn’t an insult.

        And my SD has won and placed in a number of body-building competitions after turning 50. There are a LOT of incredibly fit and attractive men over 50. And they are the ones who have MONEY to spoil a girl properly with.

        And they love sex.

        :-) lucky me

  52. Anonymous says:

    Why do most of the women on this blog feel the need to constantly rant, bicker, and put men down? Why is that even necessary? If you’re secure in yourself just be nice. Learn to get along with men. You complain about the misogeny, but all I see is a pack of misandrists randomly attacking men here. Be grateful you even have men here. Make them feel appreciated, welcomed, cared for. Why do anything else? Anything else is self-destructive.

    ALL rhetorical questions

    • Kore says:

      It’d be pretty sexist if we didn’t take their opinions as seriously as womens.’ 😀 😀 😀 😉

      Of course we respect them enough to grace them with some attention. You’re naiive, anon.

    • DamnVixen says:

      Maybe you should read through this page and look at the attacks the “Alphas” have launched on the women on this page, including invasion into their privacy of revealing their profiles and identities on other sites? Fat, old, whoreish, “not fuckable” are terms they frequently use against us … and note that most of us do not make any assessments of their physical traits. WE criticize the HATE they spew against women and other groups in society and ponder the reasons why they do it.

      • Kore says:

        Some (one) of the women here threatened to do the same. It’s hardly a matter of sex – it’s just the BS that’s so easy to churn out and funnily respected by quite more than I’d thought.

      • Anonymous says:

        Thank you for trying to be fair Kore. I honestly did expect it from you

    • DamnVixen says:

      @Anonymous
      I truly love men. I love sex. There are a TON of things I’d much rather discuss, but any attempt I make on this blog is met with being told I am old, ugly, “sexually loose”, and a LIAR and whatever other choice names of the day, by a select group (maybe 5 or 6 men) commenting on this blog who just literally CRAP all over everyone.

      AND if you read their posts … @FunDude, @Dave, etc. They admit that they ARE NOT involved in the “sugar” lifestyle and they are here to criticize it and the people who participate in it.

      So anything you see me writing – is directed at these self-described “Alphas” (who also hate men, btw). NOT at men as a whole.

      Any men who are kind to women, they attack and denigrate as pathetic old “betas and omegas” who kiss women’s asses and can’t get laid.

      So NO … we are NOT grateful for their presence here, or their attempts to “hijack” the site, to spew their hate and their completely xenophobic politics.

    • Anonymous says:

      Why do most of the women on this blog feel the need to constantly rant, bicker, and put men down? Why is that even necessary? If you’re secure in yourself just be nice. Learn to get along with men. You complain about the misogeny, but all I see is a pack of misandrists randomly attacking men here. Be grateful you even have men here. Make them feel appreciated, welcomed, cared for. Why do anything else? Anything else is self-destructive.

      He is sayin, and I think we all know who this is, is to be a good little whore and never speak up for yourself, even after men have put you down first.

  53. DamnVixen says:

    @Kore
    There’s such virulent misogyny from the self-described “Alphas” on this page … keep an eye out for what the causes might be.

    (If you look carefully, you can see the patterns in what they write.)

    – Some are threatened by young women who feel overly “entitled” … evidencing they probably had trouble dating when younger, or cannot afford a sugar baby (as is their fantasy, and why they’d hang out here so much whining about it), or they maybe got screwed over by a girlfriend or in a divorce.

    – Others are EXTREMELY threatened by strong, intelligent, older women … evidencing probable childhood abuse or emasculation by domineering mother or female caretakers.

    Some evidence both.

    What you don’t see, is any sign that they are able to have functional relationships with women as their “peers” or “equals” … because they are so hostile towards “feminism” – which in their eyes, is the greatest evil in the world.

    Any man who is KIND to women and gets along with them … is a weak “beta” or “omega” and kissing their asses …

    Actually … it makes one wonder if there is some repressed homosexuality.

    • DamnVixen says:

      Repressed homosexuality would explain a lot of it: why they gravitate towards other “Alpha” males who are aggressive towards women and denigrate any “beta” or “omega” males who get along with women.

      Thus … they have their little “boys’ club” that that only a select few “real men” can belong to. No “girls” allowed.

      • Kore says:

        I don’t think that’s it. There’s a certain street smart that’s required in getting what you want – no matter what it is. It doesn’t have to be through bad intention or ill will, but that’s what happens when people don’t learn this (and not everyone has been lucky enough to have people in their lives to advise them on this). IMHO, @Fundude, @Dave are a bit immature. As for @IHF, I suspect he’s had some painful past – maybe he lost a ex to someone coloured. Or perhaps he’s just run into someone less than ideal of that colour.

        Either way, as you mentioned before, yes, all these open displays of intolerance are, in fact, signs of some fear or the other. Wouldn’t chalk it down to homosexuality, but there’s some lack of control they wish they’d had in their lives. *shrug*

      • Anonymous says:

        Kore’s got it. “some lack of control they wish they’d had in their lives”

        Yes! To live on some damn planet where women act normal would probably be it. Maybe it’s just the whole Mars VS. Venus thing idk

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Kore
        You will note that they describe an Alpha male as having sexual prowess, and YET … they self-describe very low numbers of sexual partners and denigrate women who are “sexual” as “sexually loose.” (Quite odd and prudish, considering the nature of this site.)

        “Quality vs Quantity” and so forth.

        When most of us know, that in real life, Alpha men (at least before they fall in love) … will seduce as many women as they are capable of.

        There’s an interesting series of studies that have been done about male homophobia. Men who are the MOST hostile to homosexuals, when shown male pornography, have a much stronger sexual response (erections) to male homosexual pornography – than straight men who are not hostile towards homosexuals.

        Basically … in psychology … any ethnic or gender group that a person is the MOST hostile towards, is the group that they are the most threatened by.

      • Kore says:

        I’ve heard of this study – I still wouldn’t bring it down to to homophobia being repressed homosexuality. Stress can be arousing – add a sexual aspect and I wouldn’t be surprised that something extreme or even taboo could cause a hard on.

        Unfortunately, there’s so much social pressure with men being not gay that they often don’t even have the opportunity to explore and confirm their sexuality for themselves if they should have doubts. How can they even know if they are gay/bi/straight without having had gay/bi sex? They suffer under this longer than they must, I think.. If it bothers them.

        What’s sad to me is that there seems to be so much fear about this that it’s again demasculating in my eyes.

    • Anonymous says:

      They hate women very much but who cares about deconstructing the when, why, how and where? You will not change any of them or make them go away, unless everyone ignores them and they go somewhere else to feed their troll.

      This page used to have helpful people giving constructive help. Now it is filled with men who are angry and obviously repressed or they would not try taking a virtual dump on women online. It is obvious they are miserable, blame women for everything and very much enjoy doing so or they would not repeat themselves so much, eh? This is one of the few places where anyone will listen to them or give them attention of any kind. they might go away if everyone ignored their comments and carried on with more interesting topics.

      • DamnVixen says:

        I agree with this.

        I think we are seeing likely repressed homosexuality. (See my post at the top of the page for how I came to that assessment based on the hate and fear of women and the “boys’ club” of REAL men (who hate women) and the denigration of “beta and omega men” who like women and “kiss their asses.”

      • Anonymous says:

        And here comes the gay card. Next it will be the penis size card or maybe the he’s not getting any card

      • DamnVixen says:

        Well … what other explanation is there, for why a group of men HATE women SO MUCH that they attribute EVERY EVIL IN SOCIETY AND IN HISTORY to them?

        Do you read some of their crazy posts?

      • Anonymous says:

        By what you write, it sounds like you hate men too so maybe think about the reasons you’re typing what you do and flip it in reverse

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Anonymous
        What I’m writing is aimed at about FOUR men who come onto this blog and attack women and other men who are nice to women. I’m just turning the tables on them. You’re coming in late to the party.

    • Anonymous says:

      Correct, and SA seems to be intentionally allowing the destruction of this blog so that they may promote other blogging options they have come up with.

      • Anonymous says:

        You could be onto something @ the second Anonymous.

      • Anonymous says:

        idk – all I see are ranting women. Who wouldn’t become a misogynist if all women do are rant and complain all the time?

      • DamnVixen says:

        Another repressed homosexual? I don’t see any women on this page ranting and complaining in the last couple of days. All I’ve seen is a bunch of self-described “Alpha males” complaining about the world falling apart, Muslims taking over, because of “feminists” and women.

      • Anonymous says:

        Yep gay card again lol. Good to know you use gay as an insult too. Very open-minded of you. Fantastic job

        If you don’t see ranting then you’re blind as a bat. That’s all you’ve been doing is ranting and hating on men. Viscously picking and attacking out men.

        I hope you’re proud

      • DamnVixen says:

        Read the posts of @FunDude, @Dave, @IHF, @FatB’StardSA
        Pretty much every one is a diatribe of hate against women and anyone other than white “Alpha” males.

      • Anonymous says:

        I’ve read the posts and seen your responses. I’ve seen your invitations for argument/insult too. I would wonder why you do this. Let’s say everything they’re saying is “wrong”. Well you’re not doing any better either with the level of insults and attacks you’re dishing out.

        Maybe becoming what you despise isn’t such a great idea idk

  54. FatB'StardSA says:

    Before people get carried away with talk of Omega males being wimps take a look a the most bad ass Omega male ever…

    [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxAN0B6lIeU]

    The fucker even has a black SB!

  55. elaine says:

    “I guess y’all don’t realize that you demonstrate the weaknesses of your theories/arguments when you have to resort to name-calling and building little straw-men you can knock down, rather than engaging in a substantive discussion?”

    No @Vixen, they don’t realize.
    That requires a certain level of intelligence and sophistication you see….

    Simple souls start name calling when their intellectual capacities fall short, as it is the only defense they are capable of.

    • Anonymous says:

      That’s why you see illiterate people using curse words to “emphasize”.

      • Estephanya says:

        Is it considered illiteracy if they have the ability to read and write though? Lol. Merely inquiring out of curiosity. If they are simply cursing to “emphasize” – but they write properly and read to an adequate level for their own education…

      • elaine says:

        Exactly!

      • Anonymous says:

        Sometimes it’s just a shortcut Elaine. Some of us really dgaf

    • Estephanya says:

      Simple. That’s the cordial way to put it. 😛

      • elaine says:

        Yes, as I don’t lower myself to their level. :-)

      • Estephanya says:

        You, madame, are a lady of class and high value 😀

      • Kore says:

        Careful, Elaine.. It’s only a matter of time before some North American comes around and starts telling you how arrogant you sound. 😉 Haha.

      • Kore says:

        Or Brit. But the UK is the US of Europe, so it almost doesn’t count. 😛

      • elaine says:

        Oh no @Kore, first they will tell me that I am jealous, a feminazi, a post wall cunt, a fat and ugly hag and an old whore. :-)

        And please, don’t compare the UK with the US.

      • Kore says:

        Yeah.. Well, I am not sure what IHF in particular exactly has against you since I’m guessing you’re white. Thought that’d give you a pass by his standards.

        I’ve seen my fair share of aggro Brits, but it’s true – they’re by far not that homogenous in attitude.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Kore

        “Or Brit. But the UK is the US of Europe, so it almost doesn’t count.”

        The UK is the asshole of Europe.

      • elaine says:

        @Kore

        Since IHateFemales2030 is quite a simple and predictable soul, I know EXACTLY what he has against me. :-)
        It is so obvious it’s laughable!

        To understand the level of women he is normally interacting with -and attracted to- check his comment on @Courtneyxxx in the “Perfecting your sugar profile” topic.

        Need to say more? 😉

        PS. Yes, I am white.

      • Kore says:

        @Elaine like that one Anon said, she doesn’t look 22 – if, she certainly isn’t aging well (I think one too many tanning salons?). Also, she looks a bit like Micky Mouse for some reason hahahaha. Forgive me.. It’s the winter holidays. ^^

        Anyway.. We shouldn’t forget to have some pity on these men. Anyone who’s got ‘deep’ issues is frustrated. Man or woman – no matter what the problem is.

      • Kore says:

        And, to me, she’s got a masculine face with an average out of shapeish body.. Not what I’d think is pretty, and I think quite a few girls in the UK are over make uped like that. Huh. Didn’t think that’d be attractive, but most women are pretty to most men, so..

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Kore
        I believe Elaine is referring to the over-all “cheap escort” look of the clothing and the eyebrows that look like they are drawn on with a Sharpie. (Apparently, this is IHF’s taste.)

        I personally think that girl could be beautiful, if she were dressed properly and carried herself like a lady.

      • Kore says:

        IMHO, she’d be average at best even with less make up and feminine clothing. I see tonnes of girls around me who look better than her in their sweatshirts and with next to no make up on. Guess her look is “in” in the UK… I will never stop being amazed at what men are attracted by, haha. Even when someone is clearly not their type.. No reason to stop them. ^^

    • name calling is quite acceptable and appropriate in corporate American culture even in the upper echelons of management levels and at the officer level. for example when management blows $1.1 mil on a piece of machinery that costs too much and only lives a 1/3 of the expected life we call that a “a stupid fvcking decision” and if we were nice and called a “a poor decision ” it wouldn’t have the same effect on the person who made the stupid fvcking decision . the profanity laced description is quite appropriate .

      • Estephanya says:

        Profanity does play an important position. However, many individuals unfortunately do not have a firm understanding of the “time and place” concept. It’s a dying theory.

      • elaine says:

        @Dave

        “we call that a “a stupid fvcking decision”.

        Sure, that is how you call it among your colleagues, the workers and the other salesreps.

        But now how would you call it in the unlikely case your opinion would were ever asked by the management? :-)

      • Anonymous says:

        If you use it sparingly then it “may” have some effect. Try doing it every hour of every work day…then let me know what kind of jobs you would be allow to hold.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Estephanya, you my dear have an ah-mazing ass.

    • DamnVixen says:

      @Elaine
      That’s how you know you are winning a debate.
      They try to “prove” that your argument is wrong, by saying that you are a “feminist,” or “fat old lady,” or “a liberal,” etc.

      It’s like trying to have a debate with a monkey, while it throws its own poop at you, and thinks it is winning.

      • Anonymous says:

        I think they do not read much of what is actually written. IMO the usual suspects merely enjoy being online bullies and calling women fat, ugly and old feminists because they hate women so much and have been rejected so often in the past. It has nothing to do with having a nice debate or even winning one.

      • elaine says:

        @Anonymous

        I think we all know, but at times it is so irresistable entertaining to get them on their own words, their stupidities and inconsistence and rub it in and make them look even sillier. :-)

      • Anonymous says:

        Even though you want it to be, it’s not about rejection. It’s just about being fed up with womens’ bullshit. Even if there were rejection who would even care if they were rejected by something they don’t even want? But alas lol most women don’t reject men who have money so men grin and bear all the insanity and chaos for a trips to vaginaville

      • Anonymous says:

        Say again? It is not about rejection is it? Even with the ones you don’t want, anyway? That sounds like the guy I rejected in secondary school bc he ‘didn’t really want me anyway’. Thou doth protest too much, Lol.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @SecondAnonymous (wish you Anonymouses would just make up a name so we know which one is who)

        EXACTLY … you pegged it. It’s the SA equivalent of the fable of “The Fox and the Grapes.”

        It’s actually sad. I’ve had men write to me on this site and politely declined their offer saying that I already have a SD. They will then write back, saying that it’s ok with them, and I should meet with them too. Then I reply that my SD has an 18,000/11,000 A/C sq.ft. home and how much he pays me …

        LOL … guess what happens? “BLOCKED.”

        This site arouses so much jealousy and anger in men.

  56. @DamnVapid bragging about how many AARP prostates she’s tickled is analogous to Elton John bragging about how many gloryhole blowjobs he’s given .

    • DamnVixen says:

      @Dave
      Thanks for confirming my theory with some homophobia.

      Yeah … it’s the same. We’d both be enjoying sex and you’d be whining about how disgusting it is. Who’s happier?

      <—— :-)

  57. Promise says:

    @FunDude you make me sigh a lot. What am I gonna do with you? :(

  58. Josh says:

    New frontier for @FunDude?

    [http://www.feministcurrent.com]

    Can I interest you in debating their idiotic POV until they ban you. Let’s see how far your sperm-lottery ass gets there?

  59. Josh says:

    Since the FB that has been posting is fake, does that make him fake alpha?

    • Anonymous says:

      That is something you both have in common then.

    • FatB'StardSA says:

      What is better in your opinion, being a fake alpha or a fake guru?

      I don’t know why you are even posting replies to @FunDude, @Dave, or myself. Why don’t you use your Guru powers to ban us?

  60. Kore says:

    [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcX4oGLLHy0&pxtry=1]

    [http://lyricstranslate.com/en/b%C3%A2tard-bastard.html]

  61. noname says:

    i see everyone is discussing their christmas presents they received hope every one had a happy holiday

  62. Anonymous says:

    Another delusional entitled princess who just does not get it. Why would I pay you more than 10 grand a month just to be your “online pal”?

    ed0d8a331

  63. Anonymous says:

    For the life of me, I have no idea why anyone responds to @Fundud clearly he (even IHF) seem utterly retarded with a twisted sense of reasoning, twisted in the worst direction imaginable… I personally can’t go beyond a line of what he writes. In fact he spoils the blog for me as his gibberish means I can’t follow the coherent writings of others… #IgnoreFundud# anyone?

  64. FunDude says:

    I am neutral towards the Islamic takeover of Europe considering the current state of the West.

    Dunno which system is better, feminist Western culture or the Islamic culture.

    I will enjoy this development in the future though!

    • Kore says:

      You say so many things that shows you have no clue about how to deal with problems…

      • FunDude says:

        What problems?

        Its like the Islamic ying to the feminist yang.

        Its natural changes.

      • Kore says:

        I can sum up what you’ve said,

        “These modern women who are making it harder for men to score – they’ll get what’s coming when the culture changes.”

        You dislike women, so you use a culture many people have problems with to make them agree with you. That’s totally stupid. You can’t even keep your opinion without having to try to convince other people to believe in it as well. Weak!

        If I’m wrong – tell me why you keep regurgitating the same BS over and over?

      • FunDude says:

        I didn’t say anything about “scoring” with women.

        In fact, I spoke about them being sexually loose.

        Your logic is poor.

      • Kore says:

        This is the way you argue –

        Global warming wouldn’t exist if it weren’t for feminazis! One, when women didn’t have a choice and just got what men decided for them, there was less pollution. Now, they all want more, making men work more and they’re even starting to work themselves. Here’s a video, [youtubeBS.com]. So, I’m looking forward to global warming. Then women will realize it’s their fault and come running back to men. The rest will be forced into it. Blah blah…

        I mean, I could find a way to support your feminazi crap with any major and unrelated issue affecting everyone. It’s not that hard to see through what you’re doing.

      • Kore says:

        Scoring with women was the actual issue. You know very well that when women didn’t have as many rights, they were pretty much assigned to a man, had pressure to stay mnogamous, etc.
        Now, it’s painful to see how they have the ability to reject men openly and without much repercussion.

      • Kore says:

        You label any woman who disagrees as a feminazi and any man as beta. Every time a valid argument might come up. Then you back out of it with name calling – AFTER you’ve pretty much insulted them into a state of bias and BS.

      • FunDude says:

        Global warming is a fraud

      • Kore says:

        Holy crap!

      • Kore says:

        FD, you seriously have to speak with a wider group of people… Like environmental scientists.

      • FunDude says:

        Its a money grab scam that is being pushed by D student Al Gore

        {{{http://louderwithcrowder.com/nasa-report-antarctic-ice-sheet-is-actually-growing-by-billions-of-tons/#.VoFPJTZsZw8}}}

        Funny article confirmed by NASA.gov

      • FunDude says:

        Its a fraud. Antarctic ice is growing NOT shrinking. But at least Al Gore is getting rich!

        {{{{{http://louderwithcrowder.com/nasa-report-antarctic-ice-sheet-is-actually-growing-by-billions-of-tons/#.VoFPJTZsZw8}}}}}}}

      • FunDude says:

        Its a fraud. Antarctic ice is growing NOT shrinking. But at least Al Gore is getting rich!

      • Kore says:

        … FD, it’s “GLOBAL warming,” not “US American warming.”

        I haven’t clicked on your link. I have spoken with scientists on the issue. There are reasons why it isn’t a fraud. If people want to bur their heads in sand, of course they will come up with reasons for why the problem doesn’t exist.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Kore

        I thought it was called climate change and not global warming now a days.

      • Kore says:

        @Fat I can imagine why that might be.

  65. FunDude says:

    @IHF

    All of the older White feminist women on here disagree with your assessment on the Islamic immigration issue. I find that interesting.

    Why do you think that mostly loose sexually, feminist women would support huge demographic transitions in Europe that would negate the future of feminism?

    @FatBastard

    Your analysis of the White feminist perspective makes logical sense.

    You would think that Islam and feminism wouldn’t get along well. Yet here are many older feminists supporting Muslim immigration.

    The only answer that can be a logical conclusion is their hatred of White males whereby they think they can “control” the Muslims to allow feminism.

    Its insane since the Muslims won’t tolerate the feminist stuff.

    Very enjoyable times coming up!

    • IHF2030 says:

      Democracy is a vile feminine ideology, but fascism on steroids is coming to Europe. White women and girls have been the disproportionate victims of the genocidal, anti-White diversity agenda, but most women are infantile and their worldview rests on hope triumphing over reality.
      {http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2014/08/muslim-gangs-prey-on-white-english-girls/}

      • FunDude says:

        Yet they have the majority of votes in the Western world.

        The feminists keep arguing they found some minor “contradiction” in a 20 min video I posted.

        The contradictions include the fact that non Syrian Muslim refugees were include plus a 2 second clip that appeared to implicate the Muslims when they weren’t involved.

        Ergo, they feel they have made some kind of argument.

        The fact that Europe is changing demographically VERY rapidly in an unprecedented manner towards Islam is factual.

        {{{{http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6793/germany-20-million-muslims}}}}

        Above is a Bavarian projection that there will be over 20 million Muslims in Germany by 2020 at current rates.

        I might be crazy but feminism doesn’t appear to be compatible with Islam.

        Very interesting times!

      • Kore says:

        😀 Man, the BS people come up with to push their ideas.

        @IHF Democracy, is anything but feminine. Women are competetive, tend to be more jealous than men and have issues cooperating with one another. We’re in a constant fight to establish hierarchy in every day life. Men, otoh, are the ones who had to cooperate for survival.

        You guys should stop pussying around. It’s weak. It’s hardly manly or alpha or whatever you keep saying to back your arguments up with unlikely and imagined scenarios. All based off some opinions as opposed to logical reasoning. IHF thinks the master race is white, FD has problems with women being modern. Who else with what else? These are your personal problems and most people don’t really give a fuck since they don’t feel the same way. Trying to make your problems seem more important by associating it with a much larger and relatively unrelated REAL issue is pathetic.

        If you have a problem – at least say it for what it is and you might have some interesting and constructive replies. That is, of course, if you actually want your problems solved. If you just want to rant around .. Well, good luck finding people who want to listen.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Kore
        You really nailed it.
        These “Alpha” arguments just demonstrate how THREATENED they are by EVERYTHING. They’re living in fear.

      • Anonymous says:

        If it’s so useless and meaningless to all of you ladies then why keep focusing on it lol

      • Kore says:

        @Vixen Yes, I don’t get why this part hasn’t been more obvious to them though – most of the other male bloggers have been more masculine about everything. Hehe.

        @Anon As if that’s going to stop them from finding a way to post?

    • FatB'StardSA says:

      @FunDude

      You need to remember that @DamnVixen is an attention whore with delusions of grandeur like all white feminists.

      This is why she trolls sites like AFF and SA. She can easily find men who are so desperate for female attention that they are willing to kiss her ass.

  66. elaine says:

    Now this is VERY funny indeed, @IHF was able to utter something that made sense, but not for long as scrolling a little further down I found this gem:

    IHF2030 says:
    December 27, 2015 at 6:03 pm
    “these cowardly, dumb, evil migrants…..”

    Ehhhh, can you again remind us where your parents migrated from originally?
    Wasn’t that the “glorious” country called Greece?
    “More than 200,000 Greeks have left the country since the financial crisis hit, call them Generation G: young, talented, Greek”
    [http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/19/young-talented-greek-generation-g-worlds-biggest-brain-drain]

    So aren’t you offspring of such “cowardly, dumb, evil migrants” yourself?
    Did they escape from terrorism and a war situation or were they what we now call ” opportunistic fortune seekers”?
    And didn’t a country like Canada welcomed your anchestors and offered them the possibility to create a better life for themselves and their family?
    So their offspring could climb an ivory tower, feel superior “White” and criticize all the less fortunate?

    And, before you start the name calling that is so typical for insecure and angry people: I am NOT a feminazi, I am NOT fat and ugly, I am NOT for uncontrolled immigration, I am NOT supporting Islamic hordes to flood to Europe, because I think it will cause a big class culturewise (not because muslims are evil, but because our cultures are too diverse)

    I am just a woman that tries to stay informed well and from diverse sources (and no, Facebook and YouTube don’t really count 😉 ) and tries to understand both sides of a story.

    • IHF2030 says:

      I truly do hope that you are in the blast radius the next time one of those cowardly, evil, muslim animals detonates a bomb. Our genepool needs to be rid of moronic, insipid, evil cunts like you. And you DESERVE to be on the receiving end of such joyous, wonderful diversity!

      • elaine says:

        Hahaha, thanks for showing your sad self again @IHateFemales2030.
        Did the truth hurt?

        “And, before you start the name calling that is so typical for insecure and angry people”
        You are so funny, because so predictable. :-)

      • IHF2030 says:

        I do NOT hate females. I don’t even hate evil, moronic cunts like you. I simply hold you in contempt, as you deserve!

      • Anonymous says:

        Elaine hit the nail on the coffin, and IHF2030 had no defense… Truth hurts, ouch! Lol. He had to resort to insults because he’s nothing but an ignoramus, booby, moronic, dingwat, dimwit, son of Greek immigrant… Haha

      • Jaybird923 says:

        That’a a totally unnecessary and fucked up thing to say IHF. And she’s right it makes you look small and unintelligent. You can xenophobic,islamophobic,racist,misogynistic,and whatever else you want but not everyone feels the same way you do. You should be ashamed of yourself for wishing something like that on someone. That was disgusting…

      • elaine says:

        Wahahaha

        “I do NOT hate females, I don’t even hate evil, moronic cunts like you. I simply hold you in contempt, as you deserve”

        See the contradiction in only ONE sentence?

        So sad… I must have hit a VERY sensible nerve! Such deep hatred to someone you don’t eve know…
        Are you projecting your deep hatred to all the women that have rejected you to me dear? Knowing that I wouldn’t touch you with a pole, even IF you were wealthy enough for me?

        Our son of immigrants is still not over his inferiority complex….
        Poor little thing….did they bully you very much at school because of your background?

        “You can get a yokel out from the Greek countryside, but not the Greek countryside out of the yokel”…

        I hope the actual wave fortune searching immigrants that are escaping the miserable, corrupt chaos called “Greece”, will integrate better and behave more respectful in their new homelands.

        Because you “sir”, are a disgrace.

    • IHF2030 says:

      How dare you compare my intelligent, law abiding, productive, human ancestors to these cowardly, ugly, retarded, destructive, inherently, genetically, innately, utterly evil subhuman vermin? I really do hope that you and your children are in the blast radius the next time one of these subhumans detonates a bomb. You deserve to be on the receiving end of such wonderful diversity and you have no right to pass on your worthless genes to any offspring!
      {https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMu_6EiQABQ}

  67. Jaybird923 says:

    @vixen it makes no difference what facts, statistics, news reports from neutral and reputable sources you post. In case you haven’t noticed yet Fundude comes up with an ignorant idea and searches the Internet for videos and “articles” from other ignoramus as proof that he’s right. You’re wasting your time.

    • FunDude says:

      What news sources or stats have even come close to contradicting anything I’ve written?

      The most “contradiction” was the fact that the video from youtube include non Syrian Muslim immigrants into the video with Syrian Muslim immigrants.

      The shift in demographics in unprecedented and dramatic in Europe.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        The real question is am I Lying? Would any information countering your agenda make a difference?

        I don’t watch any videos you post anymore haven’t done so in a long time. I know from experience that they aren’t worth watching.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FunDude
        You really need to pick up a history book.
        “The shift in demographics in unprecedented and dramatic in Europe.”
        Uhh … let’s start with:
        -The Roman conquest and resettlement of Gaul and Britannia
        -The Nordic conquest of Europe
        -The Mongolian invasion of Europe
        -The Moors’ invasion of Spain and Portugal
        -The Jewish diaspora into Europe
        -The Mass Exodus of Europeans to their colonies
        -The genocide of Jews and other ethnic groups in WWII

        The list goes on and on. European demographics have been in a state of CONSTANT RADICAL FLUX.

        How can anyone even HAVE a rational debate with you when you write such ignorant things?

    • DamnVixen says:

      @Jaybird923
      I realize that. FunDude demonstrates nearly every kind of “cognitive bias” in his “arguments” — which is amusing, because he thinks he is logical and scientific.

      If you pair that with his INTJ personality, then you have a double-whammy. A guy who cannot really “empathize” and “connect” with people, who tries to apply “logic” to human behavior and events … but is just constantly confounded with the outcomes in real life.

      It explains why he’s spends so much time here and is so obsessed with this idea of breaking down dating and attraction, mating value, and sugar relationships into statistical models.

      • Anonymous says:

        You spend more time here than he does so I wonder what that says about you

      • Kore says:

        I value her opinions. She actually has good arguments and I haven’t seen her flip out and resort to some of the more simple ways of handling disagreements. 😉

      • Kore says:

        I’d rather have useful comments more often than less useful ones every now and then.

  68. sweetlark says:

    i’ve been thinking about this topic…

    my home life really is too unstable and restrictive. (and scary; after christmas i haven’t been able to sleep at all until literally passing out – ugly bags under my eyes – it is approaching 3:30am here now, i woke up more than several hours ago.) and i don’t think i could ever do anything to bring about a positive resolution for us all here. it just works on a cycle that seems to be slowly but surely spinning further and further out of control. before i could ever think about accepting nice gifts from any SD, i realize that… i need to get out of here first. i don’t think it works the other way around. 😉

    the first key to escaping falling into the same patterns of being abused, is not removing yourself just from the situations that are easier to escape… but ALL of them together. (assuming that you have them happening simultaneously of course.) and knowing that you can’t save anyone but yourself no matter how close you think you are to someone. (family or not.) sometimes people just want to keep you close (under their thumb), and will do “anything” for you just up to when (if) you give in – then they have control, and they’re happy and satisfied… then they create further situations to abuse you, in order to beat you further into submission. then it repeats. i also know that with people like that, you can’t leave any trace of where you’ve gone, because they will find you… and so you have to find a location that they would never think of or ever find. (hopefully. maybe they can track you or something, who knows) i ALSO know that while many can be aware of the situation, they cannot help you either, as i’ve seen this happen both online and in person. and it’s fair… no one should have to do that for anybody.

    i used to think about running away when i was younger, but it was funny back then because i didn’t at all understand the real reason why

    i have a parakeet (that they named after me) and i hope i can take her with me :/ but i don’t know. worst case maybe i could just let her out of the cage, but i don’t know how she’d survive… lol,

    ah… i just got a gift for christmas. i’m not making this up lol. my mom just gave me the gift card that her ex-boyfriend (since christmas, though i think it was more “understood” than an outright break-up; don’t worry, he gave her a very nice gift) apparently got for me – it is a visa gift card with $25 on it lollll

    you can deposit more money into these too right? i do have some cash 😛

    well, anyway yeah – in case you didn’t guess i’m actually lying and rambling, i made it up. i wrote this story, from my imagination, for all of you guys, to say that in the end the best gift for christmas really is freedom! :) so i hope every single one of you enjoyed it. this is definitely what i’m living for so please give me the satisfaction of your applause. :*

    and furthermore i also have to say, that i really thank all of you, because without you i would have been stuck with so much writer’s block. and i truly don’t think i would ever have arrived at this conclusion by myself… so, yay for that! <3 after all, writing this has been life changing!!

    so moving forward i will be alright and will likely have more kooky stories to tell. :)

    ps: luckily because of this site, i found an app that gives you a different number and lets you call and text for free because it uses ads for revenue. i was looking for the catch though, which i think is that it requires wifi. it's called nextplus, so it should be good for discretion if anyone was looking for something like that (of course, i found it in a post on this blog somewhere lol)

    pps: in my story, those abusers? they have the saddest eyes and saddest laughter ever – though twisted as well – if you really listen and look. :( they are victims and they seem to know exactly who they are and how it happened. that's the worst thing about it.

    • sweetlark says:

      sorry this is so much lol! was hoping it would look like less

    • sweetlark says:

      disclaimer for the story: everyone needs narcissism to function, so being able to tell the extent of it is of course not possible unless you’re looking that person in the face :)

  69. elaine says:

    IHF2030 says:
    “Perpetrating cowardly atrocities against women, children, elderly, the unarmed and outnumbered does not make those dumb animals “alphas”.

    This is the first intelligent and true thing I have read in the whole muslim discussion of some ignorant US males who have no clue about the real situation in Europe as they never cross their city borders and get their info from US sources only.

    Wondering whom of you would is actually able to read foreign newspapers to get less onesided and more balanced opinions.

  70. DamnVixen says:

    ROFLMAO …

    I guess y’all don’t realize that you demonstrate the weaknesses of your theories/arguments when you have to resort to name-calling and building little straw-men you can knock down, rather than engaging in a substantive discussion?

    I’d love to see you in a courtroom or on the Congressional floor attempting to have a debate.

    DV states her argument.
    @FunDude – “But she’s sexually loose.”
    @IHF2030 – “She’s a liberal feminazi.”
    @Anonymous – “She’s old and fat and ugly.”
    @FatB’StardSA – “She hates white males and wants to be a Muslim.”

    Y’all are definitely NOT getting laid enough – or laid well.

    Too tightly wound and hostile.

    • FunDude says:

      Was that an incorrect descriptor?

      Are you not sexually loose?

      • elaine says:

        @Fundumb

        That has NOTHING to do with the discussion.

        Dragging this in says EVERYTHING about you, and NOTHING about @Vixen.

      • FunDude says:

        Its an important descriptor when discussing Islamic issues.

        They would not be approving of her lifestyle choices.

        Ergo, the contradictions that are apparent in this situation.

      • elaine says:

        @ Fundiot

        There are no contradictions other as in your troubled and narrow minded brain.
        Discussing topics doesn’t necessary mean agreeing on them.
        Nowhere did she say that she is approving muslim lifestyle.

        I understand she is threatening -because far out of your league- but stooping low like you and some other “Alpha’s” (HaHaHa!) do by personally attacking on issues that are in no relation at all to the discussed topics, is only making you look more stupid and Vixen intellectually far superior.

        Cheers :-)

    • Frank95 says:

      You do realise that you are being baited, don’t you Ms Vixen.

      I’ve tried arguing with people who get news from Fox. It’s not possible to have a rational argument. Were they rational, they wouldn’t watch Faux News.

      However, I made a very large profit selling a slab of Newscorp (the folks that own Focks) stocks this year.

      So, it’s a waste your time arguing with them, you can make money out of them, by reinforcing their prejudices.

      • IHF2030 says:

        And, right on cue here comes captain beta-male.

      • FunDude says:

        Who the fuck is this omega male?

        Its like cue left the omega male.

        Manginas think by kissing women’s asses they will get laid. Its like clockwork.

        You would think after all these years of rejection they would get the idea but they appear too stupid to learn.

      • Anonymous says:

        Yep that’s right. Reinforcing what you don’t like is the best way to deal with it, thanks

      • Frank95 says:

        Is there another way of dealing with it?

        When dealing with people who have rusted on beliefs, you can’t change them. You can only use them in some way, eg to make money.

        But if you have some method of being able to get the rusted on types to change their minds, there’s a couple of political parties out there who will pay you a fortune for the secret.

        If it could be done, someone woild have figured it out by now.

    • FatB'StardSA says:

      @DamnVixen

      You need to do a better job at quoting and profiling people. It will help you next time you have a debate on the Congress floor or with Donald Trump.

  71. DamnVixen says:

    @FunDude, IHF2030, FatB’StardSA

    Do you guys recognize that you “Alpha males” have been writing about being THREATENED by pretty much everyone? Loose women, feminists, beta males, Muslims … let’s toss in the Hispanic immigration … and then the Chinese.

    STOP putting words, philosophies, and politics in my mouth. I have NOT expressed an opinion on whether I am in favor of one thing or another. I am just concerned with “reality” … and you guys relying on fake videos and fake news makes you look ignorant/uninformed. The Muslims got the population advantage on us LONG ago. Human populations are in a constant state of change. That’s the way it is. Deal with it.

    As far as I can tell, none of you actually have children – and you’re going to be DEAD by the time that the US and European “culture” has been diluted by Muslim immigration (if that happens). The reason WHY many of these European countries (like France) have such large Muslim populations, is because of they had colonies in those countries. Now they are paying the price. The US interferes in the Middle East, and we pay the price.

    Japan – on the other hand – despite being a member of the UN, doesn’t have terrorism or a large amount Muslim immigration, because of constitutional restrictions (following WWII) that prohibit it from operating its military outside of Japanese territory. (In other words, Japan didn’t go into the Middle East like we did, so it isn’t a target like we are.) (And don’t go believing the BS memes/articles that say that Japan doesn’t have a “Muslim” problem because it doesn’t allow Islam, or allow Muslim immigration, etc. That isn’t true. It does.)

    If your so dang worried about losing your “power” and the demographic changes … GO GET MARRIED AND START MAKING BABIES!!!

  72. FunDude says:

    LOL this anonymous shit is crazy

  73. Ambrosia says:

    To jump on another topic of social excursion. There must be a consistency of people so called “living in their mothers basement of solitude” in society. Unless it is a business soliciting; Have you taken note of how many people live on social media that are lonely, feel secluded, surf a web and are without attention by their mates or family members and feel their Twitter, Facebook, snapchat accounts have more play than their knickers do? Case and point, many. Myself included at the moment (unfortunately) but this will change.

  74. Another Anonymous says:

    @FunDude

    Let us really quit this. Continental Europeans in general and Germans in particular are usually able to tolerate a lot of bs as a fact of life, but when they (well we) snap the average WASP cannot believe what is happening. Moderation, toleration and fair play are not continental Europe’s political concepts at all.

  75. Ambrosia says:

    No wonder married people and bored business men who listen to people duvrar (apply) more complaints than needed, beating a dead horse, run with haste to find another who can deepen an enjoyment where their lips explode a desirable taste in their mouth versus the same Charlie browned theme.

  76. Another Anonymous says:

    Let us quit this topic. Maybe Kore can comment on it, but if you listen well in Munich or Berlin, you can hear things that seem to come straight from Mein Kampf.

    • IHF2030 says:

      That is true, all over Europe. My relatives in Greece used to be politically moderate and now they are all staunch supporters of Golden Dawn.

      • FunDude says:

        Yet Angela Merkel supports “suing” all other European countries who dare to avoid taking in more Muslim immigrants

        Feminists gonna feminist.

        Greece can’t do shit because they are a welfare vassal state of Germany

    • Anonymous says:

      Europe’s gone. It’s been gone for close to a decade as far as I can tell backtracking

    • Frank95 says:

      Good heavens, you don’t even have to leave the US to hear that. Just turn to Fox News. Trump anyone?

      There’s ALWAYS some dopey goat saying that kinda stuff, the real issue is how many people are actually listening.

      And by the numbers, there’s more people in the US listening to Herr Trumpf than his equivalent Munich beer hall types. At least the Munchners have the excuse of being full of Hofbrau. Whereas Trumpf is full of….haha.

  77. Ambrosia says:

    Ok FunDude,

    Let me ask you this. I have no idea how many gays statistically are in each country. However, I do know two gay men cannot reproduce. The fertile men for the non gay women left from the left over straight people, still need someone (regardless of race) to reproduce with.

    • FunDude says:

      Women are the rate limiting step for reproduction.

      Ergo, feminism is the primary reason for the demographic decline of Europe.

      However, since most sexually loose feminists love Muslims, this shouldn’t be a problem at all!

      • Ambrosia says:

        “women are the rate limiting step for reproduction.”

        Rate limiting?

        What is your issue so? To harp on feminism the way you do, it’s as if you have a wager in the feminist icon market all your own.

      • FunDude says:

        Ambrosia your argument was nonsensical

      • Frank95 says:

        And there was me thinking it was easy access to contraception.

    • Anonymous says:

      This girl is really doing ambrosia

  78. Another Anonymous says:

    @ FunDude

    Too early for demographics, but every asylum holder in EU can legally invite immediate family, ie four to eight people (German official estimate of the family size). Many of them fertile females. So we should talk demographics in 20 years.

    Very few European leaders are talking about this, but Viktor Orban, Milos Zeman or newly elected Polish leadership seem to be acutely aware of the danger.

    • FunDude says:

      Yes I read there will be over 20 million Muslims in Germany by 2020 by current projections.

      That one million will become 6 million shortly.

  79. Anonymous says:

    Anyone else notice that DamnVixen’s profile is background checked, yet she openly admits to shaving 10 years from her age?

  80. Another Anonymous says:

    @ DamnVixen

    According to German official sources there is more than ONE MILLION asylum seekers so far this year, predominantly muslim, predominantly males in prime military age. That also fits very well with daily experiences in Europe, just walking through major cities. So what exactly is propaganda?

    • FunDude says:

      I notice she won’t give me the stats for the changing demographics in various European countries.

      That is the only stat that is relevant.

      Ergo, someone isn’t telling the truth!

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FunDude
        I just got bored and gave you the links and decided you need to do your own research off of the UN and European Union sites and not some Redneck Fundamentalist Christian bullshit sites.

        Nobody is arguing that there is a growing wave of immigration from Muslim countries into the US and Europe. But the “20 Million in Germany” crap you are quoting is ridiculous. There’s a civil war in Syria that is forcing people to seek asylum, and so some nutbag took a number of refugees and projected continuing immigration and population growth as if a blip was going to be a continuous trend.

        You like statistics. You should be able to recognize the data they are relying on is faulty.

  81. FunDude says:

    @IHF

    You have too much faith in the feminized Western world.

    Do you honestly not see all the White women who support the Islamic hordes flooding into Europe?

    Even the sexually loose women like DamnVixen seems to support them.

    Ergo, Islam for Europe, here we come!

    • Anonymous says:

      “sexually loose women like DamnVixen”

      ROTFLMAO!!!

      • FunDude says:

        or the sex starved omegas like Josh are part of the problem too.

        Manginas gonna mangina.

        My hats off to the Muslims, they are showing themselves to be the true alphas these days.

      • IHF2030 says:

        Perpetrating cowardly atrocities against women, children, elderly, the unarmed and outnumbered does not make those dumb animals “alphas”.

      • FunDude says:

        @IHF

        Yet feminists like DamnVixen support them.

        Despite DamnVixen being loose sexually, feminist, etc. she appears to have significant sympathy for the Muslims over yourself.

        This is true of many White female feminists, particularly the sexually loose ones, which are a high percentage of White women these days.

        How do you explain this phenomena? Surely, by your logic, they should hate the Muslims for those “atrocities”

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @FunDude

        White feminists have a pathalogical hatered of white males (and our white
        male society).

        These white feminists believe that the Muslim world can be used as a weapon against white men.
        These white feminists also believe they are much more clever than the Muslim men they want to use and so the white feminists believe they will be in charge after the white man has been destroyed.

        Things will not end well for the white feminists but they are too delusional to see it.

      • FunDude says:

        @Fatbastard

        Very logical argument.

        How come these white feminists always need men’s money though despite being “independent feminists”?

        I still can’t figure that puzzle out.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @FunDude

        The money does not really belong to the men. The white male dominated society prevents the white feminist woman from getting her rightful share of money and gives it to white males instead.

        These SB’s taking money from men is simply reversing past injustices.

    • IHF2030 says:

      The backlash has begun with politicians attacked and numerous “migrant” centers being firebombed. And the White women who support such filth and evil are mostly the fat. bitter, ugly old feminists.
      {https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BE5pwHaTZUA&index=80&list=LLZ02ax2llXW6z-gGDJItn6w}

      • FunDude says:

        DamnVixen supports them.

        Does she fall into those categories?

      • Anonymous says:

        She’s old and ugly just not fat. We can thank tennis for that one. Then again as far as we know her pics could be 10 years old too and she’s 300lbs now

      • Anonymous says:

        ROTFLMAO. Conjecture knows no bounds.

      • IHF2030 says:

        It’s mostly ugly, middle aged White women who hold such insane, evil, leftist political views. So, yes DV falls into those categories. In any event, payback is coming and it will be the biggest bitch this world has ever seen. Germans aren’t good at that “turn the other cheek” bullshit, nor are Greeks for that matter.
        {https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlt_fMrusdI}

    • DamnVixen says:

      @FunDude
      “Sexually loose”???
      My these all these SA “Alpha Males” are PRUDES.

      There’s a catastrophic humanitarian aid problem with the Syrian Refugees. EVERY country in the WORLD recognizes it, except FunDude.

      FunDude thinks it’s a feminist conspiracy to undermine the status quo for the prudish white Alpha Male domination of Europe and the US.

      If you’re so dang worried about the the population change, FunDude … why don’t you just marry some poor girl, join the “Quiverfull” Cult and start your own Duggar/”19 Kids and Counting” reality show so your progeny can outnumber the Muslims some day???

    • Anonymous says:

      DISGUSTING REFUGEE HATER

  82. DamnVixen says:

    @FunDude
    There is so much, completely fake, Anti-Mulsim propaganda on the internet, claiming to show riots in Europe or whatever … all debunked.

    Every time you SEE an article like that … fact-check it. Reverse-image-search the photos and look at where they come from. Most are years-and-years old, long before ISIL rose to power.

    {{{{{{http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/the-fake-refugee-images-that-are-being-used-to-distort-public-opinion-on-asylum-seekers-10503703.html}}}}}}}}}}

    • DamnVixen says:

      A-holes basically take any photo they can find, that shows dark-haired people overloading boats or trains or walking down a street, and post it on social media claiming they are Muslims coming into Europe. It’s a joke that people buy that crap.

      • FunDude says:

        How are the Muslim populations changing in Europe compared to the native population?

        That is the only fact that I need.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FunDude
        You should know this. Most European countries have zero native population growth. Some are negative, I remember a while back Italy was giving tax incentives to families to have more children.

        THIS IS LOGICAL … because the world population growth has just been growing exponentially, with Africa, Asia, and Muslim countries experiencing the most growth. MUCH of that, because of the WEST feeding the starving and bringing medical advances but NOT advocating birth control – in societies that have a culture of encouraging a large number of children because there WAS such a high infant/child mortality rate.

        Like the US … European economies have engaged deficit spending and therefore need an expanding population growth in order to keep their economies growing – thus they NEED immigration in order to survive.

        This is very, high-school level, “Human Geography” stuff. Not rocket science.

  83. DamnVixen says:

    @FunDude
    {{{{{{http://syrianrefugees.eu/}}}}}}}}}}

    {{{{{{http://www.cidi.org/syria/#.VoCUjRUrLIV}}}}}}}}}}

    • DamnVixen says:

      From CDI.org

      Start with the aid that is being given in the middle east:
      {{{{{{http://www.cidi.org/wp-content/uploads/12.11.15-USG-Syria-Complex-Emergency-Fact-Sheet-1.pdf}}}}}}}}}}

      4.4 million Syrian Refugees in Neighboring Countries
      2.3 million Syrian Refugees in Turkey
      1.1 million Syrian Refugees in Lebanon
      632,762 Syrian Refugees in Jordan
      244,527 Syrian Refugees in Iraq

  84. FunDude says:

    {{{{{{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoZwIDlIL5Q}}}}}}}}}}

    Good Islamic video for the future of Europe

    • Anonymous says:

      If they are war-trodden “refugees” then where are their women, youngsters and old folks?

      • DamnVixen says:

        The women, children, and old folks are in territories closer to the border of Syria because they are harder to move. The young single men without families are the ones that are transported long-distances. Watch something other than Fox News.

      • FunDude says:

        I dunno, aren’t all refugees men in their 20s and 30s?

        Thats what I remember from all refugee crises before right?

      • DamnVixen says:

        This country is doomed. Where are you guys getting your news from? Facebook?

        Look at sites like the UN or the US State Department for the actual statistics, the screening process, etc.

        Stop looking at inflammatory political “news” sources like Fox News or fake articles and hoax videos.

      • DamnVixen says:

        US State Department Site:

        Myth: All Syrian refugees are dangerous.

        Fact: 2,234 Syrian refugees have been admitted to the United States since October 1, 2010 (the beginning of fiscal year 2011), and only after the most extensive level of security screening of any category of traveler to the United States. None have been arrested or removed on terrorism charges.

        Refugees are not terrorists. Many refugees are victims of terrorists.

        Myth: 70% of the Syrian refugees coming to the United States are young, single, adult men.

        Fact: Single men unattached to families comprise less than 2% of all Syrian refugee admissions to date.

        Last fiscal year, 1,682 Syrian refugees were admitted. Roughly 77% of them were women and children. Only 23% were adult men.

        Myth: 250,000 Syrians are arriving in the United States imminently.

        Fact: This is false. Since the conflict in Syria began in Fiscal Year 2011, the United States has admitted just over 2,200 Syrian refugees. In Fiscal Year 2016, the Administration remains committed to its goal of resettling at least 10,000 Syrian refugees in the United States.

      • FunDude says:

        @Vixen

        What do stats in the US have to do with that video?

        IT IS FROM EUROPE!

      • DamnVixen says:

        Because Americans spread all kinds of BS lies about what is actually happening in the US with Syrian refugees too.

        Are you actually going to make me do the research for you too about Europe? Fine. Here goes …

      • IHF2030 says:

        Soon now, a backlash is coming and then these cowardly, dumb, evil migrants will be on the receiving end of some serious payback and retribution. And these insane, evil political scum who have pushed the genocidal, anti-White forced diversity, mass immigration agenda will be put before tribunals and then punished accordingly!
        {http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/6527/migrants-rape-germany}

      • FunDude says:

        @IHF

        I doubt it.

        The Whites are basically committing suicide.

        The Muslim IMAM is correct about fertility rates

      • IHF2030 says:

        FunDude….The desire for revenge is the most basic and primal of all emotions. So payback and retribution are an inevitability.
        {https://xaameriki.wordpress.com/murders-and-rapes-international-media-hides/}

    • DamnVixen says:

      BWHAHAHAHA!!! Did you actually watch that video all the way through, FunDude? Did you happen to notice how many of those clips featured flat-out completely black Africans?? Because there are MILLIONS of black African refugees coming out of Syria.

      Try looking at {{{{{{http://www.snopes.com/2015/11/17/disturbing-muslim-refugee-video/}}}}}}}}}}

      The video is a hoax.

      • FunDude says:

        So are many black African Muslims flooding into Europe as well or are these fake clips?

      • DamnVixen says:

        They took clips from totally unrelated events, and then meshed them together to try to make it look like they are related to Syrian refugees.

        It’s all BS. Snopes breaks down where some of the videos came from.

      • FunDude says:

        All Snopes said was a few of the clips were “unrelated” to Syrian refugees. It doesn’t negate that these are OTHER Muslim immigrant groups.

        The argument they are making is that the vast majority of immigrants AREN’T Syrian in the first place.

        Ergo, the video remains accurate even if its not “syrian” Muslims but other Muslims as well.

      • DamnVixen says:

        FunDude … the video is bullshit propaganda against Muslims. Some clips MIGHT be Muslims, but since there are SO MANY that have been CLEARLY IDENTIFIED as NOT MUSLIMS … it’s all just garbage.

        It’s like if I meshed a bunch of clips of black people, running around in the streets (some could be completely innocent, celebrating a football game), and labeled it as proof of Muslim blacks in the US riot all the time and are a danger to society.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FunDude
        Seriously … you can’t be this gullible?
        You’re supposed to be a doctor.
        Read the dang news and stop looking at fake propaganda videos.

      • FunDude says:

        @Vixen

        There was only ONE two second clip that wasn’t about Muslims shown. That is the only “gotcha”. The vast majority was pretty accurate.

        The rest just claimed they weren’t Syrian but “other immigrant clips”. That doesn’t negate the premise of the video overall.

      • Anonymous says:

        People oftentimes give too much credence to someone based on a title or profession. I have known, and known of, a fair share of incompetent doctors. It also does not mean he is an open minded or intelligent enough.

      • Josh says:

        But @FunDude stays at Holiday Inn Express all the times. That should count for something, no?

    • Kore says:

      Didn’t even watch more than a minute of that video… TBH, all I see is that any person who isn’t as dumb as a brick will be able to handle presonal situations and also not succumb let themselves be terrorized. 😉

      Pussying around, are you FD?

      • DamnVixen says:

        *SMH*
        FUNDUDE
        CONFIRMATION BIAS
        COGNITIVE DISSONANCE

        You see what you want to see. Not what is there.
        Many of those videos are flat out NOT from Europe. Many don’t involve Muslims.

      • FunDude says:

        That “snopes” expose doesn’t show anything besides one two second clip being inaccurate about a slovakian worker being beaten up by a leftist.

        The rest just says the black Muslims aren’t “Syrians”, yet the movie was about the Muslim immigration crisis as a WHOLE, not just Syria.

        Ergo, I don’t see much against its veracity

      • Josh says:

        Dumb as brick = dense as lead = alpha?

  85. FunDude says:

    Definition of Alpha male= FunDude, Flyboy, Dave and FatBastard

    Definition of Beta Male= not too many noted on this blog

    Definition of Omega Male= “Magic” Mark, probably Josh if we had more info, men who post on Vixen’s blog

    • Anonymous says:

      Alpha male = knows who he is and doesn’t take $hit from anyone

      • Anonymous says:

        You hit reply on my msg so I’ll assume these socks are talking to me. Last night went ok. Nothing out of the ordinary. Had you hit me after Wed night – different story

    • Promise says:

      You’ve had a rough night haven’t you?

    • DamnVixen says:

      Dave?
      Dave is just a sad and hostile little worm sitting behind a screen. I’ve seen no evidence that Dave even has a job. Didn’t he say, he only had a handful of sexual experiences? He was literally counting one night stands.

      I out-did his sexual exploits in less than six months this year. Probably in a single adventurous month. ROFLMAO.

      That’s not an Alpha.

      • DamnVixen says:

        Dave’s an Omega.

      • Anonymous says:

        In the animal kingdom Omegas get the most women. Alphas are too busy fighting and killing each other. Humans are animals

      • DamnVixen says:

        Nope …
        Omega (usually rendered ω) is an antonym used to refer to the lowest caste of the hierarchical society. Omega animals are subordinate to all others in the community, and are expected by others in the group to remain submissive to everyone. Omega animals may also be used as communal scapegoats or outlets for frustration, or given the lowest priority when distributing food.

      • Anonymous says:

        “Yep” proven in study after study but I don’t expect any cooperation from you. Your eduphobia makes you get entangled in an insane amount of details and it would be a useless waste of tiem to try to engage you in a meaningful discussion

      • Anonymous says:

        **time

      • Anonymous says:

        Don’t have time to wait for your probably snarky reply. I’m leaving now but I might check back later if I’m feeling any masochistic leans

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Anonymous
        “Eduphobia” would be the opposite of what you are describing.
        You definitely need to consult a dictionary before your next post.

      • FunDude says:

        @Vixen

        Are you saying we should downgrade the status of Dave?

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @DamnVixen

        The fact that you believe that your ability to have sex is impressive tells me exactly how clever/interesting you really are.

        Have a nice day :-).

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FunDude
        Typically, men who have the ABILITY to have sex with a lot of women, have sex with a lot of women. Right?

        And you always define Alphas as men who basically are desirable and pursued by women. If Dave was that confident, and had that kind of earning capacity, don’t you think he’d have more women throwing themselves at him?

        Hence – not an Alpha. An Omega.

        @FatB’StardSA
        Not “impressive” … a reasonably attractive woman can basically have sex with any attractive man, of her choosing, at any time.

        I’m just still laughing at FunDude calling Dave an Alpha.

      • FunDude says:

        @Vixen

        But Dave has stated that he banged many women off of the SA website without paying them any money.

        Doesn’t that give some credence to him being alpha? Much sex with little exchange of wealth?

    • DamnVixen says:

      The Real Dave says:
      December 25, 2015 at 4:28 pm
      I actually do not want to just get laid , I prefer a reasonably intelligent woman to share good times with , good conversation with …. I have had 2 serious girlfriends , 1 wife , about 5 one night stands and i won’t count the garbage I’ve met from this site . you advocate kissing their ass . I don’t . every man these days is running into the same problems as we are . you advocate just letting them get away with bad behavior . i don’t . we have a clear cut difference in our approach . I doubt you or any other man have had much more women than I. the average male has only 3 to 4 lifetime sexual partners .

      • Anonymous says:

        He’s not here. I think he got banned again (for now) but yes why don’t you go ahead and post his words so he stays fresh on everyone’s mind

        Thanks

      • DamnVixen says:

        2 girlfriends, 1 wife, and 5 one-night stands … for a man in his EARLY 40’s right? Who thinks the average male has only 3 to 4 lifetime partners.

        Is actually pretty funny. Because WOMEN have an average higher than that.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Anonymous
        I’m just making fun of @FunDude’s assessment of who constitutes an Alpha.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @DamnVixen

        Quality over quantity. We don’t know what Dave’s GF’s or wife looked like. Even if they are average in appearance I would still think that his sexual conquests top that of a woman who meets her “alpha male” sex partners on AFF.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FatB’StardSA
        Clearly you have read neither my profile or my blog, since my AFF profile is set for San Francisco and I live in FLORIDA … how many men do you think I meet on AFF? Besides the fact that my profile AND blog say that I never meet men on AFF – because of their attitude that it is a free whore site. I use that site to blog.

        You want to turn this into a personal fight against me and keep attacking me? What is it with you supposed “Alphas” thinking “bullying” strangers makes you a man.

        I haven’t directed anything negative at you and my assessment of Dave is an Omega is DIRECTLY in line with how FunDude HIMSELF describes Alphas and Betas/Omegas.

      • FunDude says:

        @FatBastard

        Very good point.

  86. Anonymous says:

    Disgusting pig!
    e231f6e1

    • DamnVixen says:

      What happened?

      • Anonymous says:

        His profile happened. He put so much substance into it, I can hardly grasp those deep words. Horizontally and vertically, maybe even side-ly, what prose…

      • Anonymous says:

        He didn’t give her a million dollars for face pics

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FirstAnonymous
        Looks like a completely typical SA profile to me.
        You don’t want to even read the profiles that I’ve seen

        One of them magically disappeared from my email list, so I assume the member got banned by the site.

      • Anonymous says:

        Nope, I just strolled through his profile. No wonder he’s a pro seeker and SA is a hooker site.

  87. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Elaine

    You can easily search The most interesting man commercial on YouTube, he seems to fit many points from your list. :-)

    • DamnVixen says:

      @Elaine
      Google “The Most Interesting Man In the World” commercials for Dos Equis beer. They’re hilarious.

      “He’s been known to cure narcolepsy, just by walking into a room.”
      “He once had an awkward moment, just to see how it feels.”
      “His beard alone has experienced more than a lesser man’s entire body.”

  88. DamnVixen says:

    @Jaybird923
    One more try.
    You are really misunderstanding what I have been trying to express.

    It wasn’t a tangent. That is the mindset from which my statements were made.
    I think we are in agreement … any young girl who covers herself in tattoos and piercings is at a disadvantage – in Sugar, in employment.

    The two times I made that connection, I was directly thinking of about 5-6 profiles in a row that I had seen. I wasn’t making any direct correlation of – if you are a poor black women, you have tattoos. I just meant exactly what I wrote each time … I have NO ADVICE for women like that on how to improve their chances here.

    That’s it.

    Sorry I pissed you off. I’m trying to own it.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I’m not pissed off. I have no reason to be. I have no advice for them either. And thank you for trying to own it. :-))

  89. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Ambrosia

    Oh, I have no doubt that many wealthy stay at home wives do have their secret private lives. I just do not think they collect a monthly allowance.

  90. Ambrosia says:

    That was not to Elaine, it was to Vixen

  91. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Elaine

    Very nice description of an alpha. You probably do not watch the US TV, but the commercial “Stay thirsty my friends” comes to mind.

    • Ambrosia says:

      Ya just never know, do you? Let’s see… Which NFL player has money and was caught in a brothel?

      Let’s see, how many pastors have been caught cheating? Let’s see, how many Presidents cheated?

      Oh gee, I IMAGINE it can happen to the man in a trailer as well as the President in the Oval Office, don’t you?

      • Ambrosia says:

        NBA. Throw some letters out there, many leave the schoolroom before they master basic manners, as you can see and still get their glass filled to the brim from being thirsty.

    • elaine says:

      No, never watch US television and what I get to see of it here is even a bigger insult of intelligence as the national tv in my own country. 😉

      “Alpha=young, hot broke unemployed Xbox players who get sex for free anytime they want from women.”

      I think the list I copied was a nice counterbalance for some of the BS on this blog in regards to the subject, and closer to the truth as well… 😉

  92. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Ambrosia

    A wealthy married woman who lives in a half million dollar home. Really? How many of those are getting a secondary income as SBs?

  93. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Belle

    The advice here can be problematic. Elaine seems to be very realistic and appears to have experience as a mistress. So I would suggest to follow her advice. Also DamnVixen obviously knows what she is talking about. On the other hand you have Sweetlark, who knows her worth at 3k, but never had an arrangement and seems blissfully unaware of the very small niche market she fits into.

    • sweetlark says:

      1. i’m not unaware, and i’m not unreasonable
      2. i felt kind of overwhelmed by the question (whether warranted or not – misunderstandings exist) and pressured to “pick a number” so to speak

    • sweetlark says:

      1. i’m not unaware, and i’m not unreasonable… i thought that was made clear by everything else I said.

      2. i felt kind of overwhelmed by the question (whether warranted or not – misunderstandings exist) and pressured to “pick a number” so to speak

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Sweetlark
        People need to be kinder. But I’ll agree with Josh, until you have actual MONEY in your hand, you can’t believe a THING that the men on this site say about what they are going to pay you – and probably shouldn’t give advice.

        I have literally been in the car, TWO HOURS down the road to go drive to meet with someone when he was promising a RIDICULOUS amount of money for four days, to have him cancel on me and not even reimburse me for gas money. AND then had him call, text, and PROMISE he’d make it up to me – and since we were “Facebook” friends and I could see everything he did and all his friends, I could “trust” him every time he said he was wiring money to my account. Six months later. Still not a penny from him.

        And similarly, had a Spenda Daddy I went out with on many dates, slept with twice, who just carried on like a big shot about how he was going to “take care of me.” Always future tense, because of whatever “glitch” was going on that he couldn’t take care of me that week. ALSO Facebook friends, had mutual friends and was taken out where his business associates and neighbors would see us. I spent $240 of my own money on sex-toys for one of our little “play times” because he asked me to and said he’d reimburse me … and his idea of “taking care of me” was … like three weeks later, showing up at my house and giving me $200. Not even enough to cover what I bought for him.

        I’ve also been paid cash in hand $600 for a dinner date. $5,000, $3,000, and $2,000 for “long weekend vacations.” I was totally stiffed once by my long-distance SD and literally given $50 for “lunch money” for my flight home.

        I’m pretty un-trusting, but like to give men the benefit of the doubt. I’m NOW at the point where I will kiss and tease the man (as a negotiating tactic) but there will be NOTHING else until I’m actually holding money in my hot little hand. And I have no problem telling men that above list of “sugar dating” experiences as my justification for that.

    • Josh says:

      @sweetlark

      I should have said it earlier but didn’t. My mistake.

      Please don’t give specific advice. You haven’t even had any arrangements yet, so you haven’t the foggiest yet.

      Read, observe and get some arrangements under your belt before feeling the urge to advise anyone.

      Thanks

  94. Anonymous says:

    Can someone please tell me ‘What’s the difference between an alpha dude and a beta one?’ Also are there beta, delta, … all the way to to omega dudes? Seriously wanting enlightenment… Thanks in advance

    • Anonymous says:

      Alpha=young, hot broke unemployed Xbox players who get sex for free anytime they want from women.

      Beta, delta, sigma, omega= older, employed, but not so attractive men with disposable income wh can’t even get sex from their wives much less an SB

      • Anonymous says:

        This is anon, the OP…

        Thanks second anon for reply. But, erm… what if ‘The young, hot broke unemployed Xbox player who gets sex for free anytime he want from women’ is also employed at the same time, what’s he called then in such a scenario, a deity?

      • Kore says:

        Inexperienced? 😛

    • DamnVixen says:

      The terms are taken from studies of social animals, like wolves, where the Alpha is the leader – Beta is the second in command – Omegas are the lowest level.

      So the Alpha male is your football quarterback, military general, CEO, etc. Masculine men/leaders that are usually pursued by women. Usually tall, confident, good-looking.

      Some people use “Beta male” to describe anyone who isn’t an Alpha male (that’s how @FunDude uses the term). It’s usually used derogatorily, by men who consider themselves “Alpha” and superior.

      You rarely to never hear women using those terms to describe men, unless they are submissives seeking a “dominant.”

      • Anonymous says:

        Thanks DamnVixen… I like your moniker, how did you come up with it?
        Also from your interaction with @Fundude, what category would you typecast the said guy based on his mumbling on here? I realise that, that is a potentially factious so would understand if you would rather not get personal…

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Anonymous
        To be honest, I stole the idea from another woman on another site who was DamnedVixen. I’m totally lazy in trying to come up with a clever name.

        I’ve given a bunch of amateur psychological assessments of @FunDude already on this page, lol. He tries so hard to be an Alpha, you can’t label him anything other than that. It doesn’t make him a better man. Most women would prefer to marry and raise children with men he calls “Betas.”

      • Kore says:

        Most women wouldn’t want the alpha for LT if he became that way with the intent of fulfilling an image. Then again, that’s also just not an actual alpha.

      • Josh says:

        @DamnVixen

        “Most women would prefer to marry and raise children with men he calls “Betas.””

        Correct…alphas are for flings as the are not to be held down. 😉

      • Josh says:

        Alphas are for validation or maybe for sperm…betas are for the long-term stability.

    • elaine says:

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      The Alpha Male, the real man, a man’s man, a warrior, a stand-up guy. It doesn’t matter what you call him, he’s a leader, the guy others look to for motivation, inspiration, and often with a hint of jealousy. He’s the man women want, without inention the center of attention.

      He’s the guy, the man.

      Here’s 25 characteristics that make a man the alpha. Leave your additions (or subtractions) in the comments section.

      1. The alpha male is persistent. There’s no quit in this man.

      2. The alpha male can defend himself and his family.

      3. The alpha male is in peak physical shape. He’s strong and athletic as well as aesthetically pleasing to the opposite sex.

      4. The alpha male is courageous.

      5. The alpha male can entertain. He has a sense of humor and can have a group of people hanging on his every word.

      6. The alpha male has stories to tell. He’s lived – and is living – a unique life. He’s made mistakes, but he’s able to find humor in them.

      7. The alpha male can laugh at himself. No one can make fun of him better than he can.

      8. The alpha male is humble. Some of this comes from his ability to laugh at himself. No matter what he accomplishes, his head will never balloon.

      9. The alpha male is learned, educated. A degree isn’t a prerequisite, but a thirst for knowledge is. He wants to learn, and he does. This helps him relate to people from every social and economic standing. He can converse intelligently with the business man and the preacher.

      10. The alpha male is a man’s man. He’s a hard guy not to like or want to have a beer with.

      11. The alpha male knows the value of every word, he doesn’t talk simply to hear the sound of his own voice. Whether he’s writing or speaking, he doesn’t speak to be heard, he speaks when he has something of value to say. He’s never the loudest one in the room.

      12. The alpha male has a purpose. He isn’t a wanderer, he’s going places; it’s so obvious that everyone around him can see it.

      13. The alpha male is a hard worker. He knows that nothing great is accomplished without hard work and a definite purpose.

      14. The alpha male is a warrior not a worrier. He’s not worried about tomorrow, he’s too busy working for today.

      15. The alpha male doesn’t pick a fight, but he ends it if he’s in one. He isn’t a bully. He isn’t an emotional wreck that looks for a fight at every corner.

      16. The alpha male has style.

      17. The alpha male knows who he is, his values govern his life.

      18. The alpha male knows how to treat a lady. He respects women, often because he’s had some great one’s in his life. He’s chivalrous.

      19. The alpha male isn’t a sucker.

      20. The alpha male is a man of value. “Try not to become a man of success, but rather try to become a man of value.” He makes the lives of others better by being a part of them.

      21. The alpha male helps others, he’s generous.

      22. The alpha male is a leader who leads by example. He doesn’t tell people how to live.

      23. Alpha males see opportunity where others see failure.

      24. The alpha male is stubborn. He’s also open-minded and willing to listen to other points of view. He knows he’s flawed and stubborn, so he gives way and learns from people who are better than him.

      25. The alpha male doesn’t try to be an alpha male. That’s where so many fail.
      He genuinely cares about people.
      He’s genuine in every facet of who he is. Each of the characteristics are possessed by him naturally, or will be as he grows as a man.

      • noname says:

        wow elaine thats a long list

      • elaine says:

        I think this is a VERY accurate description of an Alpha male!

        Funny thing is that it is the COMPLETE opposite of what some self proclaimed “Alpha’s” here on blog are exposing.

        Their wannabee behaviour is better known as “Bullying”

      • Anonymous says:

        So basically he’s an attractive, intelligent, loyal, strong, courageous, warm, empathetic, courteous, discerning leader with a good sense of humour. I like him, very much indeed. Based on the above, that’s definitely not @Fundude. Guy must be a delta or even a gamma guy, lol…

        – Anon, the OP.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @noname
        It’s a bullshit list made by a man who calls himself an Alpha, lol.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @elaine
        Do you know ANY man who has half of these traits?
        I know a lot of men. I like men. But this is a fairy-tale list.

        Prince Charming.
        Doesn’t exist.

      • DamnVixen says:

        The only man I know who I would have thought fulfilled most of the stuff on that list … was my grandfather. (When I was a kid, before I realized he was a human being, lol.)

      • Anonymous says:

        The writer of this list has stuff to sell.

      • Josh says:

        “Never believe a man who has stuff to sell.” 😉 The GURU

      • Josh says:

        @DamnVixen

        “The only man I know who I would have thought fulfilled most of the stuff on that list … was my grandfather. (When I was a kid, before I realized he was a human being, lol.)”

        Was he an ass?

      • elaine says:

        @Vixen

        I am too old to believe in fairytales or in Prince Charming and I think no human being can have ALL those “traits”.

        Some are very clichè, but overall it gave a nice description of something that in reality is hard to describe. But IF if you would want to describe in words what distinguises an Alpha, a lot of this made sense. Especially #7, #8, #11, #15 and #25

        Because you cannot BECOME an Alpha, you simply are or you are not.
        Real Alpha’s don’t have to convince people. Nor do they feel the need to belittle others.

        Anyway, it clearly defines the difference between Alpha’s or Bullies, and that is why I posted it in the first place.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Josh
        I idolized my grandfather – and owe him everything. He was not a “nurturing, loving” man though. He was stern and dictatorial. As I got older, and especially after he died, I found out a ton of things about him that just disappointed and forever tainted my opinion of him.

        Like, I always thought he “put family first” – because that was what I saw with my mom, brother and I. But I didn’t find out later that he abandoned his first wife and my uncles for my grandmother. The “lazy” first wife who didn’t even dress my uncles properly, actually had MS – and died of it. And when she died, her mother raised the boys and had to rent out rooms in her house to support them – because my grandmother wouldn’t take them in.

        That kind of stuff.

      • Josh says:

        @elaine

        “@Vixen

        I am too old to believe in fairytales or in Prince Charming and I think no human being can have ALL those “traits”.”

        No woman is too old to believe in fairytales or in Prince Charming. 😉

  95. Anonymous says:

    Waitresses, front desk receptionists, hairstylists, and Starbucks baristas. All profiles state just looking for “a little help” in my life. All asking for High allowance. I guess 10K or more is what’s considered “little” nowadays. Fucking inflation!

    • elaine says:

      Clueless girls, spending too much time reading fairytales of other clueless girls on IG.

    • Anonymous says:

      Well, it is a category in that section after all, called high. What do you think it’s there for, decoration?

      • DamnVixen says:

        I think “high” is just there as a joke, for men to manipulate clueless girls into performing naked for them on webcam or traveling at their own expense to meet them for a free sex audition.

        Use your brain. Substantial – $10,000/mo (or High, more than that) … boils down to $150k plus a year of his money. He’d have to be in the 40% tax bracket to even be able to have cash available to pay that kind of allowance. Meaning, he’d have to EARN $210,000 to be able to pay his Sugar Baby $150 (they aren’t tax-deductible).

        And then, you have to consider that he’d be spending additional money on travel and entertainment.

        Men with “wealth” are very careful with their money. They don’t just throw it away.

      • Anonymous says:

        Most women have no concept of ranges, amounts, or finances so the high is just there to sound high!

      • DamnVixen says:

        My point being … a man of that kind of wealth can easily get a gorgeous woman as his SB for $5,000/month … because she is going to stick around for the other perqs. And it’s really unreasonable that a single woman, or even a woman with kids, would need any more than an extra $5,000 a month to pay her bills OR for extras. Essentially a tax-free $60,000 a year to be a part-time baby to supplement your income, is just extraordinarily generous.

        The trick in securing the higher allowances, is to make yourself part of a business arrangement with him where you CAN be tax-deductible, and where you are indispensable to him … and more than just a vagina.

      • Anonymous says:

        Like I said most women who have high and substantial on their profile have no idea what it means. The only ones to take seriously are the women looking for husbands. Then I’ve noticed they’re going for an overall salary (SD’s not their own as a SB)

      • Kore says:

        It probably means that they have a stigma that makes them think that men will pay anything for pussy. Also, they probably don’t realize that IRL, they aren’t that much of interest to men who would spend that kind of money on women – not WAG material.

      • Anonymous says:

        All taking it too seriously. It’s just a click. I’ve asked over 100 girls about this. Most of them either didn’t realize what it meant or just chose it at random. At least that’s what they tell ME

  96. Belle says:

    Hello everyone! I wanted to know how much money I should take as a sugar baby. Everywhere I read “you should know your worth” but how do I find out what it is? Please be nice, I am new to this and really just want to know :)
    Have a nice evening y’all :)

    • Jaybird923 says:

      You are the person who knows yourself better than any one else if you don’t know your worth none of us can help you

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Belle
        The easiest starting point, is to look at what men are offering you. Communicate with as many as you can. Go on as many “first meet” dates as you can go on. Ask the men what kind of arrangements they have had in the past. (If they’re new to this, you might want to save them for later, since they probably have no clue what they want either.) PLUS, you have to take into account, how often and how long you are going to see him? Where the meetings will take place (hotel, his place, your place?) Whether you will drop everything when he calls, or whether he had to negotiate with you to make an appointment?

        Women who are going to command the most money, are going to be educated, beautiful, and have a flexible schedule (self-employed), AND have a lovely home where the guy can come over.

      • Ambrosia says:

        @ Belle

        Vixen is right. The wealthy woman who’s husband is at work and lives in a half a million dollar home will require more money than the single mom who lives in a small 2 bedroom shanti.

        Remember, the good looking girl already has many men in rotation. If you are just starting out, it will show, based on what you drive and where you live. You will not make as much money as the ladies who have been around this block already until you begin to look like the rest and move up.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Ambrosia
        Are there wealthy wives who are SBs and have SDs over to their husband’s homes? I can’t even IMAGINE that would occur. What man is going to PAY for the opportunity of being caught in another man’s house with his wife?

        I HAVE told a number of women I know of different ages about this site, and I was VERY surprised when a friend of mine who is quite overweight, and in her 50’s have a NUMBER of “afternoon-delight” type “Arrangements” (where they brought gift cards to Macy’s, etc.). She typically had a bit of trouble just dating and getting regular sex. But, it seems, if married men can leave the office and go to a nice middle-class neighborhood at lunch and get laid, they don’t mind if the woman is older and overweight.

        And one of the best profiles that I’ve seen on this site, was a statuesque blonde woman (single) in her mid-30’s with a beautiful home in San Francisco. I’ve contemplated, that if I REALLY wanted to make money (as an “amateur escort” – not a SB) … then I’d rent a condo on the beach and make that a part of my selling-point.

      • Anonymous says:

        Ambrosia is clueless and arrangementless but doesn’t mind dishing out arrangement “advice.” Why not?

    • Josh says:

      Since you are at the right spot to ask questions, are you here to get some kind of validation, or are you really serious about getting good information. It often get’s pretty brutal around here. Just saying…

      • Belle says:

        It’s just that I don’t want to ask for too much but also don’t want to seem cheap. Does that make sense? But maybe I’ll justask somewhere else. Thanks for your time :)

      • elaine says:

        Depends completely on what you have to offer.

        So, to get an realistic idea, check other SB profiles that are somewhat comparable to you, your location and your situation.

        And most of all, for any info you seek: stay far away from places where you read that “you should know your worth”!

      • sweetlark says:

        bet it’s hard to be stuck in a place that’s always brutal… does this blog make it hard for you guys to think straight if you’re in it for too long when it gets more busy? because i’m very used to that feeling. :<

    • sweetlark says:

      it’s always best to let the SD lead those discussions… let him bring it up first, focus on the conversation/date instead. try to just be yourself and maybe tone it down a little if you have to so you can both feel like he has a good grasp of your character. focus on letting things naturally develop, don’t hesitate to speak, and see what happens. if you get a good thing going it should become much easier to talk about money. if you have some specific set goals that you want to accomplish that would be made easier with more money (one of the main reasons why i think people come here), then that would be the time to lay those out…

      for me i’m hardly picky about the dollar amount, because i have a rough idea for a business that would really be very inexpensive to start – but i would like the “mentorship” aspect of the arrangement to kick in there to help me get onto the right track

      • sweetlark says:

        though as far as your question goes, i think the blog makes it pretty clear on what is unreasonable and what isn’t…

    • Josh says:

      Let me give you a good starting point…

      If you had a well-to-do boyfriend YOU LIKED TO BE WITH, how much money/resources you could use from him to make your life better?

      The answer would be different for every woman. It basically boils down to the difference between your income and expenses, independent of him. It could be $500, $1,000, $2,000, or $5,000 per month.

      Whatever you get from him in the above framework is SUGAR.

      That said…there are all kinds of framework out there…a most common one is:

      How can I make the most out of my pussy?

      You will need a pimp or madame to answer that question.

      • sweetlark says:

        for some people however, “to make your life better” becomes a complicated question. you could choose a dollar amount, yes – but there could be other extenuating circumstances not as easily alleviated with just money… of course, details like that could end up amounting to some as “stories”… but some people are truly living in an unenviable situation that would take time to 100% escape. hence why they would seek something easier to ask for instead, since the alternative would be a potentially drawn out, step-by-step process

      • sweetlark says:

        :) so yeah. that’s why someone would ask for less… and not want to pressure anybody lol… but because of their circumstances, it’s hard to really know what to ask for. maybe i was venting a little bit lol sorry. for me i guess coming off “cheap” is an issue but i really wouldn’t ask for a lot

      • sweetlark says:

        … will add that “unenviable situation” does not necessarily mean a profession, lol … imagine rapunzel.

        as far as money, i mean, i personally have normally started at around $3k? if that puts things into better perspective?

      • Anonymous says:

        @sweetlark

        How many arrangements have you really had so far through SA or otherwise?

      • sweetlark says:

        @anonymous none officially. i had one potential meeting where the allowance of $3k was agreed upon but i couldn’t make it. :/ another pending, when he’s in chicago (though who knows now, with me on this blog :P)

        also @ the question… i think i latched onto the wrong part of it… :(

      • sweetlark says:

        to make my life better: $3,000 a month lol

        the rest of what i said: me stressed and lacking focus likely because of my home life, lol :( sorry

      • Anonymous says:

        Why do you feel that you are qualified to give any sugar “advice” then?

      • sweetlark says:

        i’ve experienced the allowance talk before. didn’t go like this though, lol

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Josh
        The girls always seem to confuse, “make your life better” with “fulfill your unrealistic fantasies.”

        If they want to make the most out of their pussies … legal brothels in Nevada are probably the way to go. I’ve heard the “per hour” rate there is insane.

    • Anonymous says:

      It’s all about commodites. Are you young? Are you thin? Are you Caucasian? Are you blonde? Do you have good-sized breasts? Do you perform sexual acts most other women hesitate? Are you fun?

      Look at all your positives and go from there. I could come up with a price list but I don’t feel like it, too time-consuming. As a broad base let’s just say add $100 for each positive attrivibute and minus $100 for each negative (fat, old, not white…)

      Probably add $200-$300 though for the open-minded sexual acts though. Someone will probably pick apart my math and that’s ok. I’m just not into investing too much time into this

  97. Andrewfr says:

    nothing wrong with 100 roses and a bottle of champs

  98. Josh says:

    FatB’StardSA

    “@Josh

    Why not enlighten us on your own medical specialization?”

    I am an expert in naturale eius debent. Does that count as a “medical specialization”?

  99. FlyBoy says:

    Hello everyone, hi FunDude, Josh, Jaybird923 …

    Hope you are all doing well.

    Back on SA cruising for some new meat .. lol

    Cheers :)

    • FunDude says:

      Going to brunch.

      Have fun with the blog flyboy and keep up the hunting.

      Just don’t do anything to upset the SBs on here or Josh will come get you lol

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Hey Flyboy! I’m doing well. Hope you’ll be sticking around for a bit. I’ve missed you :-))

  100. FunDude says:

    Any opinions on the EBITA/Debt ratio for ATT? I am quite impressed by this old school dividend champion stock with extension into Mexico plus its addition of DISH TV.

    {{http://seekingalpha.com/article/3777206-at-and-t-a-review-of-the-companys-fcf-metrics-and-increasing-debt-balance?app=1&auth_param=762m9:1b7v9a2:45c735e23face236e4b1ccb2851a94e8&uprof=44#}}

    Any thoughts on this subject people?

    • noname says:

      fundude att has been viewed as a super safe stock it pays a nice dividend and raises it every year its been a proven winner id be careful with this one they get a lot of income from landlines which is a dying business they have grown they’re income by buying out smaller companies i don’t think they will have the same sucess in the future im sure what the debt levels are i havn’t looked at this one in a while

      • noname says:

        not sure

      • FunDude says:

        I thought they made most of their money on cell phones, wifi and yes Direct TV (not DISH TV), my mistake.

      • noname says:

        fundude they do make a lot from those sources but the bulk of the money comes from from landlines they are trying very hard to get more income from other areas that why direct tv was important it helped them a lot att is still considered a safe short term investment but if your looking for 15 years or more you should approch this carefully

      • Josh says:

        @FunDude

        “I thought they made most of their money on cell phones, wifi and yes Direct TV (not DISH TV), my mistake.”

        I hope his folks are not depending on him to make financial decisions with the family assets/investments.

    • attention seeking whore says:

      it’s Direct tv; you really should keep up!

      • noname says:

        attention seeking whore in the stock market its still listed as AT AND T under the stock symbol T im aware att bought Direct Tv and that purchase helped help the company increase it income fundude haked for a opinion on this stock im sure he doesn’t need mine or anyone elses advice on what to do with his money i just threw out some facts he should be aware of that not pubilished normally

      • noname says:

        asked not haked

  101. Josh says:

    @FunDude

    “Also, Im not attacking you Vixen, I am growing some slight fondness towards you actually lol”

    Of course you do. Since you are dense as lead and it takes some time for you to appreciate things/people.

    Also, no wonder you are into applying botox end of medicine. Cardiology, neurology, hematology, etc., is for real doctors.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I won’t out him by saying what type of doctor he is but you’re right it’s none of those. :-))

      • DamnVixen says:

        @JayBird
        From how cold he is about human beings, I’d have to peg him as either a surgeon or ER doctor. Maybe something like radiology or cancer research. I definitely do NOT see him as a pediatrician, OB/GYN, or any specialty that requires having a good bedside manner.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        He’s none of those either. You guys are way off. While he may be an asshole, I won’t reveal any real info about him that would help others identify him. He has a right to remain anonymous if that is his choice.

      • Anonymous says:

        Dermatologist or Internist with who knows in what speciality maybe.

        Not a chiropractor i hope. They are not real dachtas!

      • DamnVixen says:

        @JayBird923
        I have no clue where he is, location or age – and nobody here has been particularly respectful of my privacy.

        But – we know he isn’t a plastic surgeon, because he has said he is against plastic surgery. If he’s not a surgeon or radiologist, as I suggested … and he is in a competitive field, as he boasts … that leaves ENT, ophthalmology, dermatology.

        ooohhh … Anesthesiology. I’m sure there are a TON of people who think he’d be ESPECIALLY good at that.

        ROFLMOA … (I crack myself up.)

      • Josh says:

        I could see that as in…”I shut four people up today.” 😉

      • Jaybird923 says:

        She finally got it right lol @fun dude you want to tell her which one it is? It’s up to you I won’t

      • Catcher 22 says:

        @Jay. You are way too kind to be so protective of him.

        There is little doubt that Dr FunDude is a highly skilled proctologist. He knows of what he speaks.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Catcher LMAO Good one :-)

    • FunDude says:

      All of those were less competitive specialties outside of “cardiology”.

      So I guess the med school matriculants would disagree in that analysis.

    • sweetlark says:

      i love the phrase “dense as lead”

      i can imagine needing a pencil in elementary school and having two being waved at me at once from different directions. very nice pencils, but i think they want me to pick one of them… writing different dates with both would be lovely but maybe that’s weird/unacceptable/they want it to be just one choice. which is fine too but i’m not really clear lol

      • sweetlark says:

        i mean… there wouldn’t be a question of which one i’d pick… if they needed me to stop joshing around… but i would like both pencils quite a lot, and appreciate everything they have done and could do for me :) i hope that’s not a crime

      • sweetlark says:

        i don’t know how to keep up the pencil analogy with this… they w

      • sweetlark says:

        i don’t know how to keep up the pencil analogy with this… they would make me happy emotionally, and so i would be happy to meet them… for them. it’s not about gain, it’s about the way the pencils help you to get through something.

      • sweetlark says:

        would actually love to meet a bad picture critic too :)

    • FatB'StardSA says:

      @Josh

      Why not enlighten us on your own medical specialization?

      Have a ice day :-).

      • FunDude says:

        Josh doesn’t have a job.

        He does “investments” despite not having any top ranked MBA or other qualification.

      • FunDude says:

        In fact, I’ll have far higher qualifications in the future to do “investments” than Josh in his own “field”, if you can call it that.

      • Josh says:

        Of course collecting bottles/cans is not a job, per se. I could sell you a bridge though. 😉

    • Josh says:

      @sweetlark

      Sweetheart the “lead” in pencils is a misnomer. That “lead” is actually graphite. When metallurgists first encountered this substance, they thought it was some sort of black lead, rather than a form of carbon. Thus, they called it “plumbago”, which is derived from “plumbum”, which is Latin for “lead”. “Pb” in periodic table [http://www.ptable.com]

      I call @FunDude “dense as lead” because lead is a cheap material AND even though it is not as popular now due to lead poisoning issue, it’s been a common construction material that many people are still familiar with in real life.

      If I use osmium or iridium, which are twice as dense as lead, then he would take it as a compliment because of the “ium” factor 😉 AND most people would not get the reference as osmium or iridium are not commonly known elements.

      • sweetlark says:

        i understood this faster than i thought i would! you are a great teacher and i’m glad to have read it :)

    • Josh says:

      He’s most likely a dermatologist as dermatologists don’t really have to be on-call, which I don’t see @FunDude being interested in.

    • Anonymous says:

      Cardiology is not always for real doctors. Surgeons and those who operate I usually find more intelligent.

  102. Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous

    “@DamnVixen

    You seem to be another amateur psychologist on the blog. Why not use your power of observation to help fight terrorism instead of wasting it on blog posters?”

    Great idea…now what have you done to “figth terrorism” lately?

    • DamnVixen says:

      *sigh* A Trump supporter, eh?

      You have, like, a 50-times higher chance of being shot by a policeman in the US, than being killed by a Muslim terrorist.

      You understand what terrorism is, right? It’s when REALLY small groups, completely lacking power, engage in random violence killing innocent people in order to create a media spectacle and wide-spread panic – to give the impression that they have more power and they are a bigger threat than they really are.

  103. Anonymous says:

    @DamnVixen

    What’s up with the Islamic meme on your blog?

    • FunDude says:

      Bitches like Islam due to it being an “alpha” religion.

      Its the only major religion that doesn’t tolerate female bullshit lol

    • DamnVixen says:

      I am not “Christian” and am tired of Fundamentalist Christian xenophobia against all Muslims. It’s rampant in my community. And my brother and many of his friends have just lost their minds where they are hoarding guns and preparing for Armageddon. (Because Obama’s trying to take their guns too.)

      The meme posted was one that my brother and many others share, that claims to be quotes out of the Koran, that aren’t even real. I’m not a fan of Islam or any organized religion, for that matter. BUT at least tell the truth about it. The passages in the Koran are exactly like the passages in the Old Testament describing Moses’ commandments to conquer the Levant and commit genocide.

      And I’m not a Democrat or a Liberal.

      I did consider myself a Moderate Republican, until I saw the panel of Republican presidential candidates this year.

      • FunDude says:

        Cool, then you can convert to Islam since it is so good and the “Christians” are so bad.

        You’d do well under that religion.

      • Josh says:

        @DamnVixen,

        @FunDude showed yet one more time the power of his “logical” deduction.

        You tell him X and he will deduct Y right in front of your eyes. Note I did not use “he will deduce”. Why? Because no “reasoning” goes on between him reading certain text and coming to some pre-packaged conclusion.

        I feel so sorry for his imaginary patients. May heavens have mercy if they are real humans who depend on his “expertise”.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Josh
        Yeah, I see that you are correct that FunDude misreads things and jumps to the wrong conclusions based on whatever particular bug is up his ass.

  104. PetiteSB says:

    There are too many “salty” daddies or guys with no ideas what to do? :( Anyway it seems no one cares to actually read a profile but just favouriting/requesting pics = pressing buttons without actual communications. Am I the only one with this type of problems?

    • DamnVixen says:

      @PetiteSB
      The vast majority of men on this site are not actually looking for a Sugar Daddy “Arrangement.” They are voyeurs. Playing out fantasies. They heard about the site somewhere and came to check it out. Some are looking to be entertained with constant emailing, sexting, and dirty pictures. Some have an ax to grind because they want the fantasy of being able to be a Sugar Daddy, but don’t have the money.

      Among the ones prepared to spend money, THOSE are usually looking for amateur prostitutes. (Someone they can pay a minimal amount of money – $200 or so for a sexual encounter. But is a “student” or “struggling single mom” – so they don’t have to be as worried about disease or being “scammed.”)

      I ignore the married men (I’m in the US) because from what I have observed (as an old lady, of 45) is that married men do not have the time or freedom to have an “affair” … much less money available to spoil a Sugar Baby with. Maybe they might get one or two opportunities – especially when on vacation. But this isn’t the type of Arrangement most women are looking for. From the European women I’ve spoken to, married men are able to be Sugar Daddies – but affairs are more culturally accepted in many European countries.

      • FunDude says:

        Vixen,

        Most women don’t honestly deserve more than 200 p4p encounters. Lets be honest here

        Have you seen the women on SA mostly?

      • sweetlark says:

        @vixen additionally, taken men could be just as attractive as any other man, however there’s that danger of opening a can of worms! possibly the hesitation a lot of SBs show towards those arrangements is comparable to why people just favorite/request pics without messaging – fear of instability.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Sweetlark
        I agree with you. I definitely have an additional reason of “karma” for why I don’t mess with married men. I have a code. I know even men in happy relationships getting plenty of sex cheat. I’ve been on the receiving end of it. I’m not going to be responsible for hurting another woman.

        I will talk to married men, because there are men in open marriages and swinger lifestyles where the wives actually WANT someone to take him off their hands. But I really don’t take them that seriously. There’s just too much, in terms of real life practical problems, that prevent anything from coming to fruition.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FunDude
        I’ve looked at the profiles. I wouldn’t say that any woman “only deserves $200 P4P” … no woman DESERVES to be treated like a prostitute.

        But I would agree that the vast majority of the profiles I’ve seen should not have any expectation of being a “Sugar Baby” as this site contemplates. There aren’t that many men out there with that kind of money, and they aren’t bringing anything to the table for men to want to choose them.

        I really just don’t know how to comment on the large number of young black with nothing but a high school education, who are covered in tattoos (I have my two, but they are well-hidden), and dress like REALLY BAD strippers.

        I also wonder about the innocent college girls with the pictures of themselves in t-shirts and shorts in their dorm rooms. Unless a man has a major Pygmalion fetish, I don’t see them being offered anything more than P4P too.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Vixen Out of curiosity why do you feel a repeated need to single out the black SBs like they are the only ones who fall into the category of high school educations and tattoos.

        There are plenty of white SBs on the site and who have posted on the blog who are uneducated and have tattoos and piercings. Just like there are tons of Black SBs on the site and who have posted on the blog who are college educated.

        If you’re going to offer advice then offer advice for all because the negatives are not limited to one group. If you’re here to simply spread your prejudice bias towards one group than do it straight up and own it instead of trying to disguise it as something other than what it is.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Jaybird923
        Yeah, thinking of it I’m sure someone might construe what I wrote as that I’m a racist. That’s not the case.

        That was written because the profiles that REALLY made me pause, as in, “I have no advice,” were young, uneducated black women, covered in tattoos. One had pictures in a fishnet body suit. What advice can I give them of how to secure a high-paying sugar daddy? None.

        I was a bit harsh on that English girl, with the Sharpie-looking eyebrows. We all told her that her profile looked like an escort, which pissed her off. She at least wasn’t covered in tattoos. I could have done a make-over on her – and I did suggest Kate Middleton as a style example to follow, if she wanted to secure a wealthy SD.

        If they were college-educated black women, no tattoos … I could offer some opinions. I referred a gorgeous friend of mine to this site, in her mid-30’s who is black – very exotic looking, with very Asian eyes. I have no doubt she will do well.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I didn’t call you a racist. Very rarely is it really as simple as that. But please don’t insult my intelligence we both know you weren’t referring to only those sbs from the other day. I’m well aware of how some prejudices are just ingrained. even though we logically know that the stereotypes don’t encompass a whole group of people we still slip. I myself am guilty of the same thing. You see enough negativity or you hear enough and it’s hard not to start believing it’s true. By comments are not made to start some race war or to be the PC police, just be aware.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Jaybird923
        Jaybird923 says: December 27, 2015 at 9:48 am
        I didn’t call you a racist. Very rarely is it really as simple as that. But please don’t insult my intelligence we both know you weren’t referring to only those sbs from the other day. I’m well aware of how some prejudices are just ingrained. even though we logically know that the stereotypes don’t encompass a whole group of people we still slip. I myself am guilty of the same thing. You see enough negativity or you hear enough and it’s hard not to start believing it’s true. By comments are not made to start some race war or to be the PC police, just be aware.
        ———–

        I don’t think anyone can really argue that poor, uneducated, black women are pretty much at the LOWEST tier of the social strata in the US. So I was referring to a particular group that already has a significant disadvantage … that has compounded it with the tattoos, the way they dress, etc.

        There are profiles that are indisputably “ghetto” – for lack of a better word.

        If I am displaying ingrained “prejudice” that poor, uneducated, tattooed, “ghetto” black women are not likely to be pursued as sugar babies and receive more than P4P – then I will OWN that. That is what I think. I think a white, uneducated, tattooed, pierced “ghetto” female is more likely to get an offer than a black girl similarly decked out.

        BOTH groups of women are going to fare much worse than girls who are educated, middle-class, not tattooed, and dress “preppy” or lady-like.

        Alternatively, I think that poor, uneducated Asian women (who are pretty) actually have a bit of an an advantage over everyone – including the educated.

        I base those conclusions on what I read in men’s profiles on this site and what men have told me, the “most popular sugar baby” contests, in addition to the large number of women fitting those descriptions that ask for assistance with their profiles AND (on other sites) – the ones that bombard male profiles/photos with very pushy messages on the public forums.

        If I’m wrong … by all means correct me.

        And of course … individual personalities and individual men’s “tastes” … there might be some who do well. I won’t be like @FunDude or some of the other guys and say that any woman who claims she DOES have a lucrative arrangement is a liar. I just think that they are at a gross disadvantage and making their chances worse.

      • IHF2030 says:

        Even fit, slender, educated, non-ghetto, black females like that “CJ” in Texas have difficulty finding sugar daddies, on here. It is what it is.

      • Anonymous says:

        I love when people go on an unnecessary tangents. If the the debate was about who would fair the best on this site than that very long and useless post would make sense.

        No one is arguing the fact that it’s harder for women of color on SA. That wasn’t the original topic of discussion nor was it the point brought up by me. My point was you have twice now linked negative traits exclusively to black SBs when other ethnic/racial groups do the same exact thing.

        Being tattooed and pierced all over seems to be the current trend amongst young women of every color these days and will put almost all of them at a disadvantage here on SA and in real life no matter their skin color. Your comments would have been just as valid and true without singling out the black SBs as the only culprits. That was my only point. If you choose to make it into something bigger than it is than go ahead.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Sorry last anon post was me. I don’t want to log on to the device I’m using.

        @IHF You’re out of your f**king mind if CJ is the example of an educated black woman on SA for you.

      • IHF2030 says:

        Jaybird….CJ in Texas holds a graduate degree so yes she is far more educated than most of the black females on this site, seeking sugar. She is also slender and non-ghetto unlike most black females, on here.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Are you kidding me right now? It’s either that or we are remembering two different profiles. She has one of the worst profiles I’ve ever seen. Out of all the educated well spoken black woman who’ve posted on the blog, that’s who you pick as your poster child, your example of non ghetto? You’re out of your fucking mind for sure

    • FunDude says:

      Females don’t really read any profiles either outside of assets/income/looks.

      Don’t play that game lol

  105. FunDude says:

    Vixen, whats going on with all the weak old betas that follow you around like a puppy dog on your blog?

    Don’t they realize they look like chumps?

    I guess there is a large segment of low value betas out there that follow women around like puppy dogs due to being desperate.

    • DamnVixen says:

      @FunDude
      In your world view, most men are “Betas.”

      Consider this … if it weren’t for pathetic, puppy-dog “Betas” … there wouldn’t be any men in the world sticking around to raise children, and be loving and nurturing fathers and husbands.

      Here’s a question for you … you’ve obviously seen the photo I posted of my SD (not on his profile on this site, by the way) and maybe read what I’ve written.

      Is he an Alpha or a Beta? He is 6’5″ if that helps.

      • FunDude says:

        Most men are betas, that is correct.

        “Looks” has nothing to do with being “beta”.

        The behavior of those men on your blog is classic beta behavior. You know exactly what I am speaking about. Don’t play dumb Vixen.

        You’re too smart for that.

        I have not seen any photos. Only saw one blog posting (the new one?) where you bitched about being mistreated on this blog to your beta orbiter males.

      • FunDude says:

        Also, Im not attacking you Vixen, I am growing some slight fondness towards you actually lol

      • FunDude says:

        I saw the photos of the weak beta orbiters from AFF.

        They are clearly low value men who are pussy hungry because they can’t get laid.

        Ergo, the beta orbiter technique they employ. Its a low value beta method of mating, never works

      • Anonymous says:

        Any man wasting time and resources on an infertile woman who is not the mother of his child(ren) is obviously not Alpha or Beta, but either a Sigma if he uses her as a tool to get fertile women, or an Omega if otherwise.

        These designations are reproductive strategies. Every strategy for genetic suicide is Omega, which can range from PUA to Playboys to MGTOW to White Knight wasting substantial resources on not-his-problems, and everything in between.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FunDude
        “Looks” has nothing to do with being “beta?” Curious, because you usually jump immediately to betas being fat, ugly, short, or whatever in your descriptions.

        I wasn’t bitching about personal mistreatment, as much as the really disgusting atmosphere around here – mostly among the men … and my gratitude that in the blogs where I usually write, people are more civil.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Anonymous
        I looked it up really quick, and you’re right. @FunDude is using the wrong terms. Betas are second-in-command in ethology, and Omegas are the lowest social caste.

      • FunDude says:

        Let me rephrase that:

        I have seen men with “unattractive” physical features being more like to act “beta”, thinking it will “make up” for their physical issues. I have seen “ugly” men who act “alpha”. Those men usually do just fine with women.

        There are conventionally “attractive” men that can act “beta” as well, despite having some level of confidence from their looks.

        The orbiters in your blog are class “beta orbiters”. Look up that term and learn something.

        I liked your psychological analysis from before. The problem is that everyone has “confirmation bias” since they are only subjected to their own reality/interactions on this earth.

        It is difficult to differentiate that. I have no more of an “intense need” to prove anything compared to all the older/heavier women having an “intense need” to prove that younger/thinner doesn’t matter.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FunDude
        I don’t actually need your assessment, because I know. My SD is obviously an Alpha because he literally has a cult following. He can stand in a room and tell people to send him money, and they do. He’s 6’5″ and has an amazing athletic build for a man of any age.

        AND … he’s insecure, as most Alphas are. He’s also ENFP, my same personality type.

        (The only men who are actually “secure” with themselves ARE the ones you’d describe as “Betas.”)

      • FunDude says:

        @Anon

        Good point. Maybe omega orbiter would be more appropriate?

        The term is always “beta” orbiter when used by the MRA/TRP community.

      • FunDude says:

        @Damn

        But you are only in his harem, not his main woman.

        Ergo, he can remain alpha since he uses your as a side piece. (If he truly exists as you say)

        Note the difference between his behavior pattern and the omega orbiters in your blog.

        Alphas don’t kiss female ass that much or “orbit” them.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FunDude
        lol … “Harem”???
        There’s no harem. The relationship is still new, but he committed himself right away with $$$ and I’m definitely not in “side-bitch” status. In fact, since I came up with this particular “idea” that he can’t achieve without spending a ton of money on lawyers, he’s kissing my ass right now.

        The funnier thing, is that to be in his “harem” – I’d have to not be seeing other guys. I had an invitation to Thailand this week/for New Years that I turned down.

  106. sweetlark says:

    a little random, but i love the golden girls… that dvd box set would be a great gift for an SB! ;D

    {https://youtube.com/GWbz_mlAShM}

  107. DamnVixen says:

    Gee … I’m a human being and have written about my “train wreck” relationships and admit to using Botox. (I also obsess a bit about trying to stay in shape and body-image issues … why don’t we pounce on that one?) BUT I’m living a “fantasy” sugar lifestyle.

    My blog is boring.

    Everyone other than @FunDude is a pathetic beta male.

    But … gee … my tits are ok for my age and I’m fuckable. (It’s nice to be reduced down to “fuckable” vs “nonfuckable.”)

    Interesting, how any “happy” stories in the blog are “fantasy” but any “sad” stories are “real.”

    Why is @FunDude in a dick-measuring contest with every other man on the planet? Even if followers of my blog are populated by beta males, so what? There are a lot of women too, but they are all old and fat, so they don’t matter either, right?

    These comments reveal the character of the men here. “Alpha males” – don’t have to bully and pick people apart to make themselves look good or feel superior. That’s something insecure people do.

    • FunDude says:

      I am very good at applying Botox.

      There is no “contest” with the men on your blog. I am speaking reality. You have a horde of old beta dudes that you have “friend zoned” in your space that kiss your ass thinking they will get laid. You can’t really take their opinions seriously considering their motivations.

      Still can’t believe when men don’t realize their friend zone status lol

      I didn’t knock you. Just think you exaggerate things somewhat. But overall, pretty good.

      Everyone exaggerates somewhat.

      • DamnVixen says:

        NONE of those men are “friend-zoned.” None of them live anywhere near me where they were even in contention for me to see them or date them. Many of those men are married with their wives participating in the site. Many are in relationships and blog themselves. Most of them who comment regularly have been following my blog for years and vice-versa … except that in the last year, I’ve stopped commenting on other people’s blogs there as much, for a reason I don’t need to go into here.

        There also happen to be a lot of women who blog too.

        And as for exaggeration … if you look at the comments, it should be obvious that many people know me in real life – especially the women. Many for more than a decade.

        But whatever … it’s all fake. I’m a liar. These aren’t even my pictures. I am an aspiring fiction novelist. This is all a literary exercise. I was just THRILLED that a member of this site, took the effort to review my profile here, stalk me across social media and dating sites, FIND my blog, and then publish the address, even though I have it set the location to the opposite side of the country for anonymity and it uses a different name and photos.

      • FunDude says:

        Vixen,

        Come on woman, you’re too smart for that.

        Beta orbiters are so desperate they will “orbit” women EVEN at long distances.

        The “married” ones wives are probably fat/unattractive. They are desperate woman, come on.

        Im speaking about the posters from your most recent blog post, they were all men.

      • sweetlark says:

        i love reading your posts vixen. :)

      • DamnVixen says:

        Thanks @sweetlark. You really ARE too sweet to be hanging out in this cesspool of cynicism.

    • So only the “under-educated black high school girls” are undeserving of a SD??? Do you really think every hot non black girl working at Hooters or serving cocktails has a freaking college degree? That’s laughable. And so is your comment and thought process..

      All the while you are certainly looking for a black sugar daddy with a 10 inch cock for you to suck and fuck. Get off your high horse. You aren’t even a full 6 in looks, Maybe a 5.72 on a GOOD day.

  108. Josh says:

    @FunDude

    “She has nice tits for a 45 year old female though. She is pretty well put together for her age, still looks fuckable.”

    Since you are dense as lead, it takes forever for you to observe what most of us know with a glimpse with most of the clothes on.

    • FunDude says:

      She is fuckable. I wouldn’t fuck her but she would be fuckable.

      I didn’t say I’d pay an allowance for her though.

      Keep up

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FunDude
        You have admitted that you wouldn’t pay an allowance to ANY woman – so that point is moot, isn’t it?
        ROFLMAO at the assessment that I’m “fuckable” – but the protest that you wouldn’t fuck me. Yet I’m fuckable.

        Uh … every woman with a vagina is fuckable.

        So what … I’m getting an endorsement, that @FunDude finds it permissible for other men to have sex with me?

        I produced a fucking GORGEOUS daughter by the way, who’s a nationally-ranked tennis player, beauty pageant winner, and headed to college on an academic scholarship. So maybe I qualify, in your little world, as being allowed to reproduce also?

        So nice to get the @FunDude endorsement of being entitled to share the same air on the planet as him. **smh**

      • Anonymous says:

        I wonder why the next 18-20 year old girl would want to fuck his older ass for no change. He is fat, from the appearance of the body is fugly, needs waxing to control his overgrown chest hair and has a shitty personality with an IQ of 0.1

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @DamnVixen

        “ROFLMAO at the assessment that I’m “fuckable” – but the protest that you wouldn’t fuck me. Yet I’m fuckable.”

        Let me translate @FunDude’s statement for you. @FunDude would fuck you if he had no better options available to him. Not all women are “fuckable” to every man by the way.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FatB’StardSA
        Thanks for the translation, but I understood what it meant.
        I’ve spent so much time around men and talked to them about these issues (plus my ex-porn guy friend and his whole study/philosophy of sexual conflict theory) … guys will have sex with women FAR below their attractiveness/weight preferences, if there are no strings/no consequences.

        They’ll even cheat AND pay for sex with an ugly woman when they are perfectly happy in their current relationship with a stunning woman.

        Remember Hugh Grant and Divine Brown, a cheap Sunset Strip hooker, while Hugh Grant was with Elizabeth Hurley?

      • Anonymous says:

        @FunDude is the epitome of beta male. At least from his posts. He remind me of that little chihuahua that yap yaps yaps and never shuts up. If something constructive was ever said in @FunDude’s posts I doubt they’d be mocked so often, but all he does is spout ignorance then calls it fact and adds on an Ergo every other sentence bc he thinks it adds intelligence LOL.

        Uneducated, unsuccessful often seem to think all men are the same and share in the same troglodyte pursuits they do. I don’t think much of either but an example of a man giving up much more than a substantial monthly allowance would be King Edward and Wallace Simpson. The guy threw away being king for an unattractive, old divorcee.

      • FunDude says:

        I have a gf, so I don’t plan on fucking other women lol

      • FunDude says:

        @Fat

        I wasn’t that negative about her.

        She looks good for 45, from the physique I could see late 30s.

        With a good attitude, she can do well.

      • sweetlark says:

        @anonymous
        “I don’t think much of either”

        oh my… then why are you here “yap yap” yapping…? 😉

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Anonymous
        FunDude is intelligent – but in a scary “Aspergers” way where he lacks empathy, and sees people as things to be quantified and analyzed using statistics.

        There’s a ton of “Confirmation Bias” in everything he writes. Basically, he only seeks information that fits his ingrained theories and ignores everything else.

        It’s not “ignorance” … it’s Cognitive Dissonance. Whatever is going on with him, he’s got this major EMOTIONAL need for his view of the world to be true, so that he paints anyone who disagrees or doesn’t fit his view of the world as “subhuman” and not worthy of his respect or acknowledgment. Any personal stories someone has that don’t agree with his world-view, must be lies or fantasies. Any males not fitting his “standards” are “Betas” and not entitled to procreate. Women are divided into categories of “fuckable” and “unfuckable.” And any society that gives women any degree of power or legal status is doomed to destruction. He disrespects pretty much everyone on this site, yet he spends SO MUCH TIME HERE trying to force his theories onto everyone and denigrate anyone who doesn’t agree with him.

        Most people have this “confirmation bias” / “cognitive dissonance” trait, but his is REALLY obsessed and invested in this subject.

        I haven’t read enough of his writing or personal stories to discern what the cause of all of that is. I’d guess there was an abusive childhood. Possibly an absent father, which would explain the obsessive need to define masculinity. He definitely didn’t have a father who was loving and nurturing, since he would call that kind of man a “Beta” worthy of his disgust.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Anonymous 6:40am

        King Edward VIII was forced into abdication because of his activist monarchist tendencies in policy matters and his Nazi sympathies were unacceptable to the British merchant establishment. The figure-head nature of the British monarchy was not as established as it has become after his abdication; the King could still dismiss parliament.

        Getting rid of him by making a scandal out of his liaison with Wallace Simpson was simply a political political maneuver. Historically there were other British monarchs marrying women who had been other people’s wives, such as the best known and most influential English monarch ever, Henry VIII. It was made amply clear to him that his outspoken Nazi sympathy and aspiration to actively influence British policies were not acceptable to the rest of the British establishment and merchant/banking barons.

      • Anonymous says:

        @DamnVixen

        You seem to be another amateur psychologist on the blog. Why not use your power of observation to help fight terrorism instead of wasting it on blog posters?

      • FunDude says:

        @Vixen

        I like the psychology lesson. I enjoyed it lol

      • Anonymous says:

        The example was not to go into a history lesson on the British Monarch or WWII but to give example of a man who could have had a much better looking and younger woman who INSTEAD CHOSE an ‘old’ and ‘used goods’ according to what many post on blog. He had a kink too, but will not go into that.

        I am aware of his Nazi background and sympathies, along with secret dealings between Hitler and Kind Edward, even after he was no longer king, and the promises he made Hitler if the third reich won the war. Still, the point was he chose this woman which ended up aiding in his abdication.

    • Josh says:

      Did I say any such things either?

    • FatB'StardSA says:

      @Josh

      You can also tell @Jaybird’s breasts look amazing from a picture of a bra.

      You must have x-ray vision.

    • Josh says:

      @FB

      In such matters, yes I do and
      I exclusively like natural boobs regardless of the size.

      Too many men don’t care about real vs. fake as long as the shape looks good.

      Therefore, I understand that they don’t care about the “physics” of boobs and how bra works…when a woman is on her feet vs. when she is on her back.

  109. FunDude says:

    IHF,

    I just tried to log onto Vixen’s blog but all that pops up in some naked pic of a 35/F

    Is that the right blog?

    • IHF2030 says:

      Yeah, that’s it, she fibs about her age on aff, too.

      • FunDude says:

        It wants money to subscribe as a member.

        Fuck that lol

      • IHF2030 says:

        You can create a free profile and have a look. You just have to pay if you actually want to look at profiles, and exchange emails.

      • Anonymous says:

        Why are you insisting on people signing up on AFF? It is another ticking time bomb site.

      • FunDude says:

        Just looks like her bitching about the SA blog to some old weak betas on AFF in her most recent blog posting.

        Nothing that interesting.

        She is also crying about being too “harsh” on her since she is used to her low level old manginas that follow her blog that normally kiss her ass.

      • IHF2030 says:

        I am not suggesting anyone pay to join, but to see her blog you have to be a member. I had a profile on that site for years and made hundreds of blog entries, but haven’t been a paying member for years, now.

      • FunDude says:

        @IHF

        Look at the low value old manginas posting on her blog.

        I don’t see high level dudes posting on there.

      • IHF2030 says:

        She did blog about her fifty something, recovering televangelist “sugar daddy”. Her posts about botox usage and her train wreck relationship with some cat called “doc” were kind of amusing. But there are 100 guys for every woman on aff so the place is full of hard up, ass kissing sucker beta males.

      • FunDude says:

        @IHF

        That is true it is filled with low value old betas.

        But her stories don’t add up.

        She definitely lives some kind of fantasy sugar lifestyle stories. I am more confident after reading her aff “blog”

        She has nice tits for a 45 year old female though. She is pretty well put together for her age, still looks fuckable.

      • Anonymous says:

        That blog is boring as hell. Too many old men wishing to get lucky?

        Now @FunDude considers her fuckable after going on and on about her age with the guru?

  110. Ambrosia says:

    Note to ignorant deviants. I will leave you with a suicide song. Edwin McCain. “I’ll Be.” And my Nectar is reserved from here on out for the gods and not for commercial consumption.

    One day, you will learn.

  111. Anonymous says:

    @FunDude @Vixen

    A more provocative explanation on why there is no archaeological evidence for the two Biblical kingdoms is that the two kingdoms were fictions created by Ezra reflecting Upper and Lower Egypt.

    Ezra was a leader among former exiles freed by Cyrus the Great of the Persian Empire. Cyrus had defeated the NeoBabylonian Empire (which had kidnapped the exiles a few generations earlier), and needed a buffer state in the east Mediterranean trade/invasion corridor to check against the Egyptian Empire to the southwest. Ezra was under Persian supervision to come up with the first 5 books borrowing heavily from the Persian Zoroastrianism for the creation story yet encoding the Egyptian aristocratic ancestry of the break-away tribe “chosen” by the original inventor of monotheism the Sun-Disk worshiping Akhenaten / Pharoah Amenhotep IV / Moses. The family of patriach Jacob was not farming sheep, but farming people as the long line of Pharoahs.

    • Anonymous says:

      Now THIS is Sunshiny. :)

    • FunDude says:

      Sounds like an interesting theory that I’ve read before.

      There are so many varying opinions on the subject.

    • DamnVixen says:

      @Anonymous/FunDude
      My theory is that Ezra is a fiction (pretty obvious because of the inconsistencies between Ezra, Nehemiah, and Esdras).

      Ezra is probably based on a “historical” figure who arrived in Jerusalem for a year as the “Eyes of the King” of Persia (per both writings).

      @Anonymous – (Ezra wasn’t ANY time around Cyrus. Read the Bible. It says he arrived during the reign of Artaxerxes 7th year, around 457 BCE). Cyrus was almost 100 years earlier.)

      If you read, Ezra was there to review what was happening in the city and report back to the King, he released the priestly caste from taxes and forced labor, and he “read the law” – (supposedly of Moses) but when he performed these readings, they were on the city wall and NOT at the Temple.

      If you examine Nehemiah and the discussion of the parties involved in the construction of the new wall around Jerusalem (probably taken from dedicatory inscriptions around the wall) – it is clear that Levites and the Priests had to participate. Nehemiah was there for a long period, Ezra was there for only a year. Therefore, it’s illogical that Ezra arrived before Nehemiah.

      Ezra and Nehemiah also discuss families who married foreign wives, families who weren’t able to prove their genealogies, and families who were organized into new positions in the Levitical and priestly orders. Certain families were made into villains … like the Tobiads. However, when you read the alternative version of Esdras, the Tobiads are not mentioned or excluded. (If you read the book of Tobias, it also implies an attempt to validate the Tobiad family through a fictional story set in Assyria). The Tobiads are mentioned by Josephus as tax collectors. They ruled the region of Ammon (near modern Amman) and the palace and tomb have been discovered. They obviously considered themselves Jews but in the disputes between brothers/families over priestly positions and especially the High Priesthood …. their money, housed in the treasury was promised/looted in exchange for assistance from the Greeks.

      There’s a ton of “rewriting of history” that likely took place during the early Maccabean era in order to justify the priest/king dynasty (similar to the Hanukkah story).

      They probably seized on a historical Persian overseer who arrived for a year named “Ezra” and decided to call him a priest, and constructed a genealogy for him in order to make him appear valid. If you actually examine Ezra’s genealogy, it’s based on others and has some “holes” in it where names were accidentally omitted.

  112. Ambrosia says:

    Thank you again Miss Lady. I have officially changed my name so that each Anonymous will no longer be linked to my minder. I bid you a good night love.

  113. Anononymous says:

    Just bring Dave back…bc reality sucks otherwise.

    • Josh says:

      @Pastor Dave can come anytime. I promise to whoop his evangelical ass when he does.

    • FunDude says:

      LOL I agree.

      Been away for 10 hours or so and this blog has gone to shit.

      Dave actually added some value to this place.

      Without dave, its basically boredom city.

      • Anonymous says:

        Fundude you know you don’t need to hang around boredom city, of course since you’re not a SD, do not want to be one and find sugar topics boring.

  114. Anonymous says:

    @sunshine

    Whoever you are, I’m afraid your olfactory receptors are off. FunDude is his own man, or a derivative personality of some other poster on the blog, not me; frankly, I have no idea why he is even here on a sugar blog, seeing that he is not involved in sugar and/or doesn’t seem to like any SB.

    As for me, I have been way too busy with family and friends these past few days of Christmas to post here. Cheers and hope Santa has been kind to all of you.

    –SSSD

  115. IHF2030 says:

    If any of you cats are interested, I am posting a link to damnvixen’s blog on aff, enjoy!

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  116. Anonymous says:

    I find it a bit funny when women complain about men on here, from the sexual point of view – – i.e. dick not big enough, selfish = not willing to please, and etc etc etc.
    Just to remind, men on SA (normally) are paying customers. If you are willing to put out for free, have your say and have your pick. The only thing a guy normally gets from SA, is fun. If you are willing to entertain for free, have your say. If you want to be compensated for your entertainment… maybe shut up?

    • sweetlark says:

      am I wrong? i thought that these relationships, especially, were supposed to be based on open and honest communication. that’s the only way they work… you go in and both lay out exactly what you want and what you expect from the arrangement. if you want someone to just shut up and take whatever they get, it should be easier to find that elsewhere. for little to no money, as well.

      • Anonymous says:

        But then to some it’s simply prostitution, payments and all those.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Sweetlark
        You are describing exactly how a sugar relationship should work.

        Ignore the above comment.

        Be very careful about listening to advice from the MEN on this page, since many are very hostile to sugar dating and see ALL of it as prostitution and openly admit that they aren’t actually SDs and they would never pay women an allowance or do anything beyond paying for dinner or a vacation for a girlfriend.

        The above comment evidences an attitude that sugar is prostitution.

      • noname says:

        sweetlark you are correct that is what SA model is based on and what long time SD do you both lay out your expectations and what your willing to give and what you want to recieve if you both in agreement antd you like each other you have a arrangement its pretty simple and i agree honesty is the best policy

      • noname says:

        and not antd

  117. Anononymous says:

    I have a question. What is you are not a “skinny Minnie” woman. Which translates to, you have an ass on you and thick thighs with very little waist. Do men these days really appreciate that? Or is that borderline BBW?

    This is where Josh and FunDude could possibly not be so fun, but, brutally honest.

    • MissLady says:

      It depends on the man and your personality. I’ve seen plenty of non skinny minnie’s on insta and tumblr who have successful arrangements….

      • Anononymous says:

        Thank you, Miss lady.

      • Anonymous says:

        And we all know how honest those girls are 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        I would say if you’re asking the question it means you have doubt yourself that you would even be successful. That basically answers your own question

      • sweetlark says:

        @Anonymous i get this… i think that girls can also insert doubt like this when the subject matter is commonplace in a very chaotic environment. they want to make sure not especially because of personal issues, but possibly because of the track records of the people asking. if people show you cyclical behavior, you’re going to look for an action that is a noticeable change from what you’re used to seeing repeat. so if you’re used to things happening in public, you probably really want to see what the difference (if any) would be in private. does that make sense?

      • Anonymous says:

        I’ll let you know when I stop spinning

      • sweetlark says:

        of course yeah, i guess that goes both waus also…

    • Josh says:

      Vague questions are not going to get you anywhere…you will get PC responses like @MissLady gave you earlier, but they are not going to help AT ALL.

      It depends on how far are you from the “skinny Minnie” physique AND more importantly what else you bring to the table.

      • Anononymous says:

        I know not what to ask, besides vague. It DOES take thick skin to not only survive but thrive in this space.

        Besides being someone who can mimick the person in front of me, for their gain, if that is what they require (for we all secretly require something different). Then, I could say, I am a great listener, when I am not focused on my own insecurities.

        I am desire to please who is in front of me and be an added emeritus to their private affairs, as well as public, I so desired. I will not offer up information to another in their prescence u less asked and all I do is listen.

        My suspicions are none and I await them to open up to me. Life is a crossword puzzle, the right word provides the right answer. You choose your word and the world is now calorie conscious, once I am in te presence of someone’s interest. Other than that, I call dribble that is disturbing at best, based on what I have seen from the responses of men.en and women alike receive responses that they too are trying to filter based on no other grasp than a picture. What I have to offer is not for sale. What I have to offer is a trial of the same that a person of value can give. Key word is “give” and it is a two way street.

      • MissLady says:

        She said “an ass, thick legs and little waist”, which is an indicator of how far away from skinny minnie she might be, and I told her it depends on her personality, which encompasses what she brings to the table. She also didn’t ask for ‘help’ but an understanding of if there are men out there that appreciate her attributes that are outside of the norm.

        So my ‘PC answer’ covered what she asked about.

      • Josh says:

        If you were the @Anonymous who asked the “skinny Minnie” question, then you can rest assure that you will struggle in this space unless you are able to–first and foremost–think and communicate clearly and succinctly.

      • Anononymous says:

        Thank you again @ Miss Lady

        As I suspected, honesty of another form from @ Josh, yet, no less welcomed.

        I am “thick” for a white chick. I have no little round ass. I am gawked at by many and I assume since I am not the Barbie, and considering my comprehension ability is not normal scale of “norm”, that I fair, at best.

        That is all I wanted to know.

  118. Anononymous says:

    Just saw “Daddy’s Home” today. Lol.

    I soooo thought of all the spewing on the blog, stereotypes, and irrationality that is part of everyday life. Loved it!

    See, I find Will Ferrell sexy because he makes me laugh.

  119. Anonymous says:

    This granny just viewed me…wants Moderate. WTF!!!

    • Anononymous says:

      Would it help to view her as a “seducer of innocents?”

      • Anononymous says:

        So yes, it rotates back and forth, and the damage is slight and easily repaired. Though, it takes time. You and Catcher and IHF, Elaine, Jay, all hold your ground with ease.

        Btw, Jesus is considered by many, what would be a modern day Metaphysician.

        I do not know the archives which you speak, except that scrolls being lost for hundreds of years and the skepticism that evolves around proving fact vs. science has been a debate for eons.

      • Anononymous says:

        Previous post is for @ vixen and in the wrong location.

  120. DamnVixen says:

    Another change of subject … wish there were more Sugar Babies on tonight to see if they’ve had the same experience.

    One REALLY surprising thing, with the “REAL” SD’s I’ve met (fooled around with). I’d have expected small penises and poor sexual performance, if the guy is basically paying for a woman’s company (in whatever capacity that is).

    Uh – NO. ENORMOUS cocks. Like, beyond porn-star big. And stamina that could kill a girl. I’ve been told that’s one of the reasons that they end up in the Sugar lifestyle … too much libido and too much dick for the average woman.

    • Josh says:

      That is largely true. Most men are here because they are not getting it at all or not enough. 😉

      • Anononymous says:

        Please stay…@DVixen

        We all know that there are too many choices than to waste time on an ugly, manipulative comment. Even if
        you choose to leave, there is no passion in their voice. Therefore, it holds no shape and shows pain.

        We all have our moments…

        Just toss your curls to the side with poise and grace and continue. Many here have before you and many too became lost.

        I myself would love to boil and gripe over past Dates and men that did not fit my ideal. I came to the blog and vented even on my own accord (whether coherent or not) is still up for debate. Why? Because I was trying desperately to express emotions, hope, and in the process, sort out if the smoke had damage my quarters to an unknown repairable state. At the same time, wanting desperately to speak to more than a wall, for I was impatient with an answer.

      • DamnVixen says:

        It’s just annoying and stupid.

        I’m accustomed to blogging on another site where the people are just overwhelmingly polite by comparison to this page. NONE of this trolling crap happens over there. BUT then, members have control over their own pages and can delete posts and ban people from their pages who act like a-holes.

      • Anonymous says:

        I find people on this blog very polite in comparison to most places online. That’s why I come here

      • Josh says:

        You don’t say? 😉

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I’ve only been with the one I chose and am currently with but I’m a very happy girl ☺

      • DamnVixen says:

        Well … I’m a bit (a lot) sluttier. 😉 But I stick to single men. I don’t like the bad karma of sleeping with other women’s husbands.

      • DamnVixen says:

        NOT that your SD is married … I don’t know.

        Just explaining why I don’t have reservations about sex with the guys. (Not hurting anyone.)

      • Anonymous says:

        Yep she’s whacko. I wasn’t completely sure at first but I am now

      • Josh says:

        Whatever that means @Anonymous :(

      • Anonymous says:

        You’ll see Josh

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Anonymous
        Apparently “whacko” enough that I have to insult people, rather than actually engage in a conversation, in order to entertain myself.

        Grow up.

      • DamnVixen says:

        NOT “whacko” enough.

        Gees … I need to step away from the computer. The BS hate crap just gets old.

      • Anonymous says:

        I noticed 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        Yep typical dramatic reaction from a cray-cray, knew it

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Vixen My reservations are based on two things. 1)I’m rarely sexually attracted to most men. Even when they have all the physical attributes I find attractive there has to be something more there for me to feel sexually attracted to them.

        The person in the package makes all the difference. Otherwise they are just like women to me, I recognize what makes them attractive but it’s like looking at a pretty painting. None of the switches required for sexual attraction gets flipped on.

        2) I’m just very particular about who I’m willing to sleep with and have no interest in racking up sexual partners just for the sake of having sex.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @Jaybird923
        I was a LOT pickier when I was younger. But as I’ve gotten older (and more sexually experienced) … I’ve found that I’m attracted to different things in men now.

        AND … sex isn’t as “sacred” as I once felt. I don’t feel any “end goal” of there having to be a relationship come out of it. Some things, I’ll just do for the adventure of it.

        As you hit your 40’s … and as you can see on here, you have men CONSTANTLY bombarding you with this message of, “You’re fuckable now, but you have an expiration date” … you can acquire a bit of a “use it or lose it” mentality.

    • Kore says:

      I fuck mens’ personalities more than their dicks. :) Divks alone aren’t that fun, but an exciting personality can make you…

    • Anonymous says:

      Yup I can identify with that. I do have to admit that when I hit 60 years I did start to slow down.
      Regular guys may laugh but it can be a “big” problem [pun intended]. Girls can get so carried away that they split themselves and are not so keen to try it again. Hence our never-ending search for satisfaction.

  121. DamnVixen says:

    Change of subject. Has anyone actually GOTTEN their profile approved on PerfectArrangement yet? I thought it would be interesting to just see how the site and match-making works. I think it’s been a month since I did the video, and all I get is a message that says my profile is still under review. (We can make cracks about whether I did or did not have the correct age down – but it’s irrelevant to the question that I’ve asked.)

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I think everything for that site is on hold until they can find enough men who are stupid enough to pay those prices to date the same women they can date on SA for much less.

      • FunDude says:

        It will fail lol

        Most of the SA spinoffs will fail.

        I suspect even SA is in bad shape since most men aren’t willing to pay for this.

      • DamnVixen says:

        The prices are ABSOLUTELY ridiculous.

        I have seen ONE profile that reflected what I would expect if there was a seriously wealthy man on this site. It purported to be put up by an employee who was screening women for him to review, so it basically discouraged women from sending “Hey Baby” messages and had a “don’t call us, we’ll call you” vibe to it.

    • elaine says:

      “to just see how the site and match-making works”

      The site doesn’t work Vix.

    • Anononymous says:

      I have never tried perfect arrangement. I presume I will have to be at Barbie doll perfectiono even make it through the prescreener in order to qualify. Which is why I have not bothered. It is not that I would not desire to, considering all of the ladies and men that I watched float through the TV from “Patri’s” ladies. Though Patti was “tough” in a sense and it was fun to watch for a while, it so seemed to still be a “placid” ground (with little movement or activity). Before I even saw the finale of each date. Each one seemed forced, by a sum that was forever y benefit of funds and not for an actual cause of sincerity. And as we all know, “sincerity” is the market that EHarmony targets.

      So, what is your target market? If your target market is success rate and proves by word of mouth in an irk forum of truth, then you no longer have to sell your product, for it now sells itself.

      • Anononymous says:

        IRL = In Real Life, not “irk”.

      • Anononymous says:

        One day when my children are noonger playing Lego games on te computer, you will actually receive a well written response from me. I will actually be astute and primed to perfection in speech, once I lol them off, so that I can focus on the value of the words I use.

        Until then, their laughter an excitement means more to me and my focus is not on my grammar. I very well know, the brain automatically picks up the words and improvises in response like a computer as long as the first letter and last are in cognitive conjunction. I know, because that is how I learned to speak and was once an extreme, dilutive, dialectic, dyslexic ability. It served me well by forcing me to be a novelist of ages of speech and how it changed over the years. Yet, I still mix them, along with accents and thoughts, to today’s date. Hope all can grasp, when I speak.

      • Anononymous says:

        This mini I phone. Here. Where is my iPhone 6? Aye, yi, yi.

        I meant kick them off the home PC. We only own 3 iPads, 3 android tablets, 2 lap tops, an iPhone, and an android phone. But, I am stubborn to what is “my in-shared electronic.” I hear a bicycle and the outdoors calling me. Human conditioning with sorted memory…

      • Anonymous says:

        Huh?

      • Anononymous says:

        Exactly my friend, exactly. Craziness. I have been told so many times that I will “struggle” in this realm, that I removed my profile for the sake of my unsolved training, that I quite. I had 3 dates iin 5 years. Not due to not being offered, just saw little to desire. Had I been one one was not particular, or possibly a priceless beautiful artifact, I would have acclaimed success. I am marginal at best.

        Good luck to you all.

      • Anononymous says:

        May you find the freshest face, the biggest dick and the greatest excitement of your life in this spa experience. May you up the ante each time with each encounter until you find your enthusiastic graceful one to call home. that is, as long as home, makes you moan with passion and enthusiasm. To do the opposite, is a lack of spark and fire. I was once here for a Bonfire. I have since given up on the realization of warming my body next to the fire.

        Popcorn and peanuts and added cellulite awaits with henne. I gave I my all and my all failed. Good night and good luck to all who calls to the lust that lights a fire that is rarely extinguished. I envy you.

    • noname says:

      i thought PA was dead its not listed any more as one od brandon wades websites i think it would be a good idea to verify income and assets but the way perfect arrangement is a stupid price to pay for that

  122. Jaybird923 says:

    I think the scales have tipped. There’s intelligent conversation on the blog again ☺

  123. FunDude says:

    Vixen know some shit about Biblical history.

    Im starting to like Vixen’s ability to hold a conversation.

    Good work Vixen

    • DamnVixen says:

      Part of Vixen’s appeal, as an “above-average” looking 45-year old that men are willing to pay for her company, is that she is knowledgeable and conversant on many subjects. Especially sex. And she can play kick-ass tennis.

      AND she is intuitive and empathic and can size up a man’s personality type by what he says and writes.

      • DamnVixen says:

        And figure out what he’s missing in bed. 😉

      • FunDude says:

        Look at “Amihai Mazar” counterpoints towards Biblical history when talking about David and Soloman.

        The lack of history for the “United monarchy” of ancient Israel comes from Israel Finkelstein and the “German school of archeology”.

        There is huge debate over this subject with significant archeological evidence for both David and Soloman.

      • DamnVixen says:

        No … I’ve actually looked independently at all of the archaeology that exists and there is nothing that has convinced me. Most anything that has been interpreted as “Beit David” is just wishful thinking.

        If you just READ the Bible independently of anything else, it illustrates all of the major cities in the territories were independent city-states.

        Plus … the Bible claims Jerusalem was originally called “Jebus” (founded by the Jebusites) before it was conquered by David (whose reign is placed around 1000 BC).

        But EVERY archaeological source calls the city phonetically – “Rušalim” (Execration texts of the Middle Kingdom of Egypt (19th century BC) or “Urušalim” (1330s BCE Amarna letters).

        The king of Jerusalem’s name in the Amarna letters was king of Jerusalem was named “Abdi-Heba” a name based on the Hurrian mother goddess named Hebat.

      • DamnVixen says:

        They ONLY reason ANY debate exists about the historicity of the Bible, is that Fundamentalist Christians will try to extrapolate to interpret any inscription to support their agenda to prove the Bible true, and ignore any evidence that doesn’t support that agenda.

        Somewhere in the middle of 2Kings and 2Chronicles you start to see Kings’ lists of the actual rulers of Samaria (Israel) and Jerusalem (Judah).

        This is a subject that I am completely obsessed with (matching archaeology to the Bible, Josephus, and Herodotus). The differences between the Seputuagint and Masoretic texts. The Documentary Hypothesis and trying to discern how the different scrolls were meshed together into the final scrolls. Unraveling the mystery of the Tobiads and the “Sanballat” dynasty of Samaria following the Babylonian exile.

      • FunDude says:

        How could you independently look at the archeological evidence?

        This information is discovered by archeologists who have varying opinions on their “finds” based upon carbon dating, artifacts, etc.

        This stuff is constantly changing.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FunDude
        Seriously? Because archaeological findings, like stela, palace inscriptions, clay tablets/papyrus are all over the internet, in books, and subject to translation by multiple sources.

        The Elephantine Papyri are a favorite source. They were in such good condition, there is very little to no debate about the translations (except some minor places where there is damage).

    • Anonymous says:

      She’s trying so hard to impress you FunDude so very very hard. I hope this leads somewhere rewarding

      • TVC15 says:

        I don’t think she has to try. :)

      • Anonymous says:

        Then I wonder why she’s trying so hard

      • DamnVixen says:

        Folks … I’m just bored on a Saturday and put my kid (18) on a plane to my dad’s. I could just as easily be on Facebook or my blog to entertain myself. I’m not trying to impress anyone. This is just shit I enjoy writing about.

      • Anonymous says:

        Where is your SD? Don’t you have any irl friends? I’m not trying to be insulting jw

      • DamnVixen says:

        It isn’t my SD’s job to entertain me. It is the day after Christmas – my friends have family and small children. Mine is grown. I’m a bit of an introvert and prefer to spend my afternoon, if not playing tennis, on the computer reading or researching or blogging (if I’m not working). No big friggin’ mystery.

        It’s this or clean house.

      • Anonymous says:

        Leave her alone, Anonymous troll who is probably FunDude.

      • DamnVixen says:

        It’s not a big deal. I actually had an invitation to fly to Thailand this week (today through New Years) from an Omani man who lives in Dubai. (Not that FunDude would believe me, because I’m too old and average-looking for any SD to spend that kind of money on me.)

        But I’m not that adventurous. And I appear to have a good thing going right now with this local SD that I don’t want to screw up.

      • Anonymous says:

        I wasn’t bothering her @Anonymous. It was a simple question for understanding and she answered it. And no I’m not FunDude

  124. DamnVixen says:

    @TVC15
    Don’t know if you caught what I said about the INTJ personality, but it’s the model nearly always used for fictional villains.

    Consider EVERY James Bond villain. Cold, calculating, lack of empathy, obverse logic to justify whatever their goals are. Yanno. A sociopath.

    • TVC15 says:

      I did see that, DV, and also posted a question below that I think you didn’t see:

      Actually DV, I find it really interesting, both that you correctly identified FD’s type and that he’s INTJ. The latter interests me because I’m INTP, which is pretty damn close, yet FD and I are obviously pretty different. Any insights?

      • DamnVixen says:

        @TVC15
        There’s a simple little game you play to determine a person’s MB Type (it’s not so hard):

        Moody or Annoying? (I or E)
        Superficial or Know-It-All? (S or N)
        Emo or Cold? (F or T)
        Stressed or Hippy? (J or P)

        SO the difference between you and FunDude … is that he is stressed and you are a hippy. He takes himself more seriously and think about publishing his theories. You’re more likely to get a beer or smoke a joint while bantering over these subjects.

      • TVC15 says:

        Makes sense. I like to debate, but I don’t white-knuckle it. So I don’t get angry, or feel the need to insult people unless they’ve started it first.

        The only thing I don’t get, is that FD is both moody AND annoying. So how did you know he was I and not E?

      • DamnVixen says:

        “Annoying” as in, perky like a puppy.

      • Anonymous says:

        Moody or Annoying? (I or E)

        I would have guessed the annoying or the E for FunDude.

      • DamnVixen says:

        I’m ENFP – which is the most introverted of the extroverted types. So I find pure extroverts annoying.

        I guess I should use the first two descriptors as “moody” or “perky” … or something like that.

        Sweetlark is most definitely “E” and most likely ESFP if I were to guess.

      • TVC15 says:

        Oh, ok. So, moody or perky. I bet you’re an I as well, because I also find perky people annoying. 😉

      • TVC15 says:

        Oops! Lost the bet, but I was close. :)

      • FunDude says:

        TVC seems very insecure with petty insulting behavior.

        Ergo, her being “happy” doesn’t appear realistic.

      • DamnVixen says:

        My Type: ENFP is … George Carlin, Mark Twain, Oscar Wilde, Salman Rushdie, Arianna Huffington, Kurt Vonnegut, Michio Kaku, Orson Welles, Salvador Dali, Ricky Gervais, Rachel Maddow, Katie Couric, Sandra Bullock, Jennifer Anniston, Sharon Stone, Anais Nin …

        Pretty common in revolutionaries and dictators too: Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, Muammar Gaddafi, Hugo Chavez.

        (I actually dated Fidel Castro’s nephew, btw. Another one of my crazy stories, lol.)

      • TVC15 says:

        Nope, I’m definitely a fundamentally happy person.

        I do agree I can be petty, but it’s not the first time I’ve admitted it. And insulting, yes, but only when it’s been sincerely asked for. :)

      • FunDude says:

        Im pretty happy myself and far more secure in myself.

        Ergo, I have no need to follow you around like a puppy dog making baby level comments due to anger over my valuations of SMV for women.

        If this didn’t upset you and you were happy/secure, there would be no need for petty insults.

      • Anonymous says:

        INTJ’ S are the most paranoid personality type, right? That would explain why @FunDude thinks that everyone who does not see his or agree with his agenda is a fatty, feminist unattractive old feminazi? Or, they are a weak beta.

      • Anonymous says:

        TVC isn’t an overall bad person she’s just really self-righteous and a little snobby. In her mind though it’s probably more about her following some kind of self-created ethical code. She reminds me of your typical therapist/counselor type personality. I like those types.

      • TVC15 says:

        “Im pretty happy myself and far more secure in myself. Ergo, I have no need to follow you around like a puppy dog making baby level comments”

        Could’ve fooled me.

      • Anonymous says:

        (If this didn’t upset you and you were happy/secure, there would be no need for petty insults.)

        Right there. That would be another example of his paranoia and to discredit anyone who disagrees with him.

      • TVC15 says:

        “TVC isn’t an overall bad person she’s just really self-righteous and a little snobby. In her mind though it’s probably more about her following some kind of self-created ethical code.”

        Can’t really deny that. 😉

      • TVC15 says:

        “That would be another example of his paranoia and to discredit anyone who disagrees with him.”

        Absolutely. For someone who complains about ad hominem arguments, he sure resorts to them in a knee-jerk fashion.

    • FunDude says:

      Yup im Hitler remember?

      • TVC15 says:

        No you’re not. Hitler wasn’t fat.

      • FunDude says:

        Thought you didn’t “insult” unless you were insulted?

        Are we back to childish insults that are clearly false? LOL

      • TVC15 says:

        “Thought you didn’t “insult” unless you were insulted?”

        I didn’t say it had to be within the last 24 hours.

        I also didn’t say it had to be ME who got insulted. I’m more than happy to step up to bullies who are picking on other people. I wish more people would do that, then bullies wouldn’t get away with as much as they do.

      • Anonymous says:

        FunDude’s not fat first of all and on top of that it’s everyone who is ganging up on him not the other way around

      • TVC15 says:

        Oh please. Did you just show up ten minutes ago?

      • Anonymous says:

        Nope been watching this ganging up on him go on for a while now

      • TVC15 says:

        Well, OK. If you’ve actually been paying attention, and you really think we’re “ganging up on him” rather than pushing back against his idiotic harassment, then I doubt arguing with you about it is going to help. :)

      • Anonymous says:

        True because I wouldn’t argue anyway. Seems crazy to me you would use the word harrassment but it’s really not too unexpected since you are a woman and I guess to you somehow it seems that way

  125. attention seeking whore says:

    can’t get no lov’n

  126. FunDude says:

    Vixen,

    No one is “intimidated” by truly intelligent females. They are refreshing. They problem are all the “intelligent” women that have no ability to actually think.

  127. sunshine says:

    i’m smell’n a SunShiney!!!!

  128. FunDude says:

    I love how many Sugar Babies on here exaggerate my comments to attempt strawman ad hom attacks.

    I have nothing against older/fatter/etc women on a personal level. This is a logical fallacy.

    My argument is based upon SMP/SMV dynamics.

    • TVC15 says:

      Then why do you constantly attack these women when they ask for advice or post about their sugar success, and call the successful ones liars even though you’ve conceded it’s possible for such women to have successful arrangements?

      • FunDude says:

        I don’t attack them.

        Just am HONEST about their negatives.

      • TVC15 says:

        It’s not attacking someone to call them fat, old and a liar when you actually don’t have a clue either way? You can only say you’re being “honest” if you know what you’re talking about.

  129. Anonymous says:

    I will look this up later but shall I assume that personality an INTJ personality likes to hijack most any conversation and change the topic into only what HE wants to talk about? And, if anyone does not agree then they are attacked on a personal level?

    I wonder what personality type Hitler was? I am going to guess something similar to @FunDude maybe?

    • FunDude says:

      LOL the Hitler canard

      Yes, I am a mass murderer that kills millions of people due to their race for no reason because I am the “aryan race”.

      Who knew right?

    • TVC15 says:

      FD is way too socially inept to ever be as popular as Hitler was. Remember, Hitler was elected.

      • FunDude says:

        LOL you’d be surprised

        I have improved my oratory skills significantly.

      • Anonymous says:

        I meant more along the lines of Hitler only wanted the world to see and appreciate what HE thought was relevant or of importance. Example: burning brooks and getting rid of art that HE did not like.

        Not really talking about the mass murder atrocities, but could imagine if @Fundude was given great power, would he have all the fatties and unattractive women disposed of based on a low SMP score?

      • Anonymous says:

        Books not brooks.

      • FunDude says:

        @Anon

        So you think I’d setup concentration camps for fat/older women?

        Interesting leap you made there lol

      • TVC15 says:

        “I have improved my oratory skills significantly.”

        Good Lord, really? I’m glad I wasn’t around when they were worse.

      • TVC15 says:

        “would he have all the fatties and unattractive women disposed of based on a low SMP score?”

        Of course not. He’d have them put in re-education camps where they’d have to read his writings and listen to his recorded lectures daily. Those who sufficiently proved their conversion would be let out to be mates for the beta males and/or housekeepers, cooks, tailors etc. for the alphas.

      • FunDude says:

        @TVC

        Actually thats a FUCKING GOOD IDEA!

      • Anonymous says:

        When I said disposed of I did not mean literally. More figuratively like the example that @TVC15 wrote.

        You forgot at the camp the fatties would be put on strict exercise and diet regimens as well. If they are to be servants for the alphas then they at least must be thin.

      • TVC15 says:

        Hah. See, just because someone disagrees with you doesn’t mean they didn’t understand what you said, and that you should therefore keep repeating it. 😉

      • TVC15 says:

        “You forgot at the camp the fatties would be put on strict exercise and diet regimens as well. If they are to be servants for the alphas then they at least must be thin.”

        Good point. As well, FD does seem to have some sympathy for the beta males, so I imagine he’d want them to have mates that fit his idea of what’s attractive as well. The camps would therefore all have to have gyms, and plastic surgery centres too.

      • FunDude says:

        I don’t believe in Plastic surgery but only diet centers.

      • TVC15 says:

        But what about women who are legitimately ugly? Will you put bags over their heads, or simply have them ground up into fertilizer?

      • FunDude says:

        @TVC

        What about men who are seriously “ugly” as well?

        WTF. They can pair up with other fit but “ugly” people.

      • TVC15 says:

        Well, it’s nice of you to be so tolerant.

    • attention seeking whore says:

      awwe come on… give us attention seeking whores some love too.. will ya

    • TVC15 says:

      Hitler was an attention seeking whore too! I’m sure that must prove SOMETHING.

  130. Accidental SD says:

    AS I do some light reading here on the blog from Christmas night to now, I wonder when it is that the authorities will start mining SA like they do on the streets to apprehend the men who simply want to pay for sex here on SA and the women who simply want to get paid for sex. Surely with Josh, Fundude, FB, Dave and the lot frequently using words and terms that some form of law enforcement must be monitoring, it can only be a matter of time before some profiles on here are far more damaging to the sugar world than just a misrepresentation of age, weight, and income. When reaching out to someone here becomes a liability beyond just rejection or a bad date, then the sugar world will collapse. Perhaps those who debate the morality of sugar are doing that for just those reasons….perhaps actual sugar relationships will become an accepted part of our society separate and distinct from prostitution in its current form. It feels like a ticking bomb to me. And when it goes off, the debate around what to do with it will take years to resolve and may preclude sites like this from being so accessible to so many….hmmm….that might be a resolution in itself although not to Brandon’s pleasure I am sure.

    • FunDude says:

      Id be more worried about Dr Phil’s shows concerning seeking arrangement.

    • TVC15 says:

      “I wonder when it is that the authorities will start mining SA like they do on the streets to apprehend the men who simply want to pay for sex here on SA and the women who simply want to get paid for sex.”

      I can help you out with that: the answer is “never”.

      You’re welcome.

    • DamnVixen says:

      @Accidental SD
      It’s not likely to happen.
      There are so many sites that are just flat-out “escort” sites. It would require too much labor to try to sift through a site this size to catch “amateurs” who are no real threat to society.

      • FunDude says:

        Plus the issue of “proving” prostitution would be extremely difficult as well.

        SA has been using the term “arrangement” that isn’t a direct exchange of money for sex.

  131. FunDude says:

    There have been many articles decrying the “unleashed male sexual imperative” due to inherent promiscuity/sexual variety that is almost inherent in the male psyche.

    Unfortunately, not as much discussion about the female’s sexual imperative (hypergamy) has been discussed and its very problematic implications on the future of the civilization that allows it to be practiced.

    Enter F Roger Delvin’s succinct analysis on this subject.

    A very rational argument can be made that monogamous relationships that are ESSENTIAL to the society basically served the interest of the productive beta male but NOT women as a whole.

    Women’s mating patterns appear to be hypergamous with harem formation around the top 20% or so of men.

    Ergo, the “beta” formation of civilization undergoes serious threat when the female sexual imperative is unleashed due to inherent instability in mating patterns.

    This was likely seen at the end of the Roman and Greek Empires and other remarkable points of history where a civilization was on a serious decline.

    • TVC15 says:

      Fine. What do you plan to do about it, other than starting every sixth sentence with “Ergo”?

      • TVC15 says:

        If we’re stuck with you, you could at least try to be a little less repetitive.

      • FunDude says:

        Nothing can be done to reverse this trend. Ergo, the inevitable takeover of more “patriarchal” systems that value monogamous “beta” mating patterns such as Islam.

        However, understanding the female sexual imperative is very fascinating.

        This concept has been lost on older male “conservatives” such as “Magic” Mark who can’t fathom this concept nor on most weak “feminist” men who are usually low SMV betas that attempt to use “feminism” to obtain female sexual responsiveness.

        Of course feminist males have a losing strategy on the SMP, hence “Magic” Mark won’t get anywhere with his “nice guy act”.

        This is important knowledge for investment strategies and portfolio management in the future as well!

      • TVC15 says:

        “Nothing can be done to reverse this trend.”

        If that’s the case, why don’t you work on being a better conversationalist by occasionally talking about something else?

      • FunDude says:

        @TVC

        Because I’m an INTJ personality type.

        I don’t do well with the gossiping bullshit.

      • TVC15 says:

        So you believe the only two possible topics of conversation are:

        (1) MRA talking points; and
        (2) gossip.

      • FunDude says:

        @TVC

        Then make an interesting topic.

        I haven’t been on this blog for MONTHS and the topics were complete SHIT

      • TVC15 says:

        Actually, I regularly post links and make comments on a variety of topics. Why don’t you do the same? Or don’t you find anything else interesting?

    • Promise says:

      FunDude, you should change your name to Ergo. 😛

      • FunDude says:

        I changed it to “Big Dick” fundude before

        I thought that would be a better descriptor since it gives an accurate portrayal of reality.

      • Josh says:

        Rumor has it that he calls his dick Ergo.

        Therefore, when you see Ergo in his posts replace it with “My dick”. That would be much entertaining read.

        It may be entertaining enough that we might want him to use Ergo more rather than less.

      • DamnVixen says:

        Sounds like a fun drinking game for a Saturday afternoon. Take a shot, every time @FunDude writes “Ergo.”

      • FunDude says:

        Damn, you’d be drunk REAL FAST lol

    • DamnVixen says:

      I’m pretty sure that there have been studies done in both Europe and the US that demonstrated that one out of four of the children born to married couples (otherwise believed to be monogamous) turned out to NOT be the child of the husband.

      AND though surveys indicate that women are rarely “unfaithful” … other studies show that they are MOST likely to cheat when they are ovulating. So … the one time wifey is unfaithful, it is while she is ovulating, and most likely with an alpha male.

      • FunDude says:

        That is correct.

        Its called “cuckholding”.

        There has been much written about this subject in the manosphere.

        My perspective is that this is COMMOM among women in their 30s who rode the CC during their peak years and marry a “beta” for financial stability.

        Ergo, men need to be more discerning to this reality.

      • DamnVixen says:

        But cuckholding has always occurred. Especially when women were NOT permitted to choose their own husbands, when divorce was difficult to get, and when a divorced woman and her children really had no hope for survival.

      • FunDude says:

        @Damn

        Correct but it was much rarer when the females were virgins with significant consequence for bad behavior.

        These days, cuckholding holds no consequence for married women.

    • DamnVixen says:

      I’m still having a very hard time following your logic. The Roman Empire, I understand, had a little problem of ingestion of a lot of lead. As well, when empires like the Romans, Greeks, Persians had economies based on conquest and expansion, they necessarily come to the point where they’ve gotten too big for their britches, and can’t control all of their territories and collapse.

      You can’t blame women and beta males for that.

      • FunDude says:

        Look at the changes in laws regarding women from the early to later Roman Empire.

        Roman collapse due to demographics/economics coincided with those law changes.

        Amazing isn’t it?

      • DamnVixen says:

        You’re really grasping at straws there.

        There are plenty examples of exactly the same kinda collapses of empires dominated by patriarchies who practiced polygamy.

      • TVC15 says:

        Correlation doesn’t equal causation, unless you’ve ingested a little too much lead.

      • FunDude says:

        Very few societies have been able to practice polygamy for any longer term situation.

        If too few men monopolize most of the women, the society becomes inherently unstable.

        The allocation of females by a society is of PARAMOUNT importance for the stability of that society.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @TVC15
        ROFLMAO … I didn’t like you much before, but I gotta give you credit for being witty.

      • TVC15 says:

        Thanks, DV. It’s my only good quality, so it’s always nice when someone notices. 😉

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FunDude
        I don’t agree. Polygyny (one man, several wives) seems to have been the norm in most societies. It’s logical in a patriarchal society where men control the resources … women are going to share the rich guy. I would. (There’s always prostitution, homosexuality, and bestiality for the beta males.) ;-O

        Polyandry (where a woman has several husbands) – occurs in societies where natural resources are scarce, there’s a need for population control, and the need to assure the survival of offspring. It’s not a “weaker society” … it’s just a different one adapted for harsh environments.

      • FunDude says:

        @Vixen

        Even in the bible, Israel broke into two states after the death of Soloman.

        This was due to him monopolizing the women and charging the “beta” males very high taxes to pay for his opulent lifestyle.

        That is the normal outcome of those situations.

      • DamnVixen says:

        Monogamy seems to be an adaptation for societies that attempt to be more “democratic.” “All men are created equal” … hence, all men should be entitled to reproduce, marry. Which can only be achieved if polygamy is illegal.

      • FunDude says:

        Vixen,

        There are literally NO EXAMPLES of societies that were powerful that practiced polygyny

      • FunDude says:

        @Vixen

        Incorrect.

        Monogamous relationships were the NORM throughout most powerful civilizations in history.

        Patriarchal monogamous cultuures are the only ones that have a history of powerful civilizations that stood the “test of time”

      • DamnVixen says:

        Oh dear, FunDude. **smh**

        Are we citing mythic Bible figures as historical examples?

        You do understand that Judaism remained polytheistic for centuries? Even after the return from Babylon? And that there’s a very small portion of the Bible that contains actual history, consistent with inscriptions and documents found in archaeology.

        As in … there was NEVER a united kingdom under “David” or “Solomon.” If you read the details in the Bible, it even tells you that all of the major cities in their supposed territories were ruled by independent kings.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @FunDude
        hmmm … maybe you should read more about Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Persia, China, India, Tibet, Islam.

        We’ve definitely found an area where you need a little additional study.

      • DamnVixen says:

        As in … all of those societies were powerful and polygamous … many for THOUSANDS of years.

      • FunDude says:

        I said polygyny not polygamous.

        There are successful polygamous empires in history, as long as betas got some female action as well.

      • FunDude says:

        @Vixen

        That is one theory written by a discredited scholar out of Israel named “Israel finkelstein”

        He has been debunked by various Israeli and other archeologists.

  132. FunDude says:

    @Vixen

    Women are HYPERGAMOUS not promiscuous.

    That is the female sexual imperative.

    Unfortunately, the amorphous feature of hypergamy is very malleable, leading to dysgenic breeding patterns that are highly dependent on status allocation that is subjectively determined by the society.

    The Western world’s status “hierarchy” has become highly dysgenic compared to Asian breeding patterns.

    Ergo, the future of the West is in significant jeopardy.

    • DamnVixen says:

      I’m having a very hard time following your agenda.

      The success of a society is based on static social hierarchies?

      WOW … it’s a wonder the US has been so economically successful for the last 200 years.

      • TVC15 says:

        I think the real reason FD is so invested in maintaining static social hierarchies is that he was lucky enough to be born near the top of his own. He wouldn’t do nearly as well in a society with truly equal opportunity, so he finds the idea threatening.

      • FunDude says:

        The female imperative has only been unleashed in the last 20 years or so under the guise of third wave feminism.

        Female sexuality was strictly controlled for the vast majority of US history, with early monogamous marriages in their late teens to early 20s to a likely virginal bride.

        Monogamous pairings were strongly enforced with fault divorce systems in place.

        Ergo, women wouldn’t waste their peak fertility years riding the CC.

        This has significantly changed over the last 20 years to a “tournament” sexual market place strategy employed in the wild to placate the female hypergamous sexual imperative unleashed.

        Ergo, the sexual “successful” men become REALLY successful while the vast majority of “betas” get less sex than ever.

        Stable relationships become rare, single moms increase significantly with consequent costs educationally and financially, beta male productivity collapses, etc.

        Ergo, civilization comes apart.

      • FunDude says:

        @TVC

        Incorrect, I actually benefit from the current tournament mating system in place in the modern Western world.

        Unfortunately, I see the long term negative implications of this system.

      • TVC15 says:

        “Incorrect, I actually benefit from the current tournament mating system in place in the modern Western world.”

        Jeez, FD, your reading comprehension is the worst. Part of what I said is exactly that. I agreed with you for once, and you didn’t even get it.

      • FunDude says:

        @TVC

        You said that I am “invested in the static hierarchy”, which is technically correct but I am arguing AGAINST IT despite my current benefits from this system due to LONG TERM implications.

      • TVC15 says:

        I was talking about the static social hierarchy that white male children of the affluent are automatically placed atop regardless of their individual merit. You’ve benefited strongly from that, and you dislike female autonomy and equal opportunity because you feel your unfairly earned place at the top of the hierarchy is threatened by it. Therefore (a synonym for ergo, by the way, in case you’re looking) you want to see women strictly controlled by men, and you’ve come up with a complex intellectual argument to justify that so you don’t have to admit your real motive, perhaps even to yourself.

      • DamnVixen says:

        @TVC15
        I agree with you. @FunDude does seem extremely threatened by intelligent women. And just women in general. And “beta males.”

      • TVC15 says:

        Yup… anybody lower in the hierarchy. I guess it’s lonely at the top.

  133. attention seeking whore says:

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