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Signs of a Gold Digger

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Spotting one can be a bit tricky, so here are some basic signs to look out for to make sure you are nabbing a goal digger, not just another gold digger.

It may seem obvious, but if she is more parasite than princess when it comes to talking about the financial aspect of the arrangement, this is a sure sign of a gold digger.  Not to be confused with someone who casually mentions that part of the agreement, since it is in fact mutually beneficial.  Steer clear of ladies who can’t remember your name, but can remember to ask for their allowance monthly without fail.   

She always has a sob story for why she needs more money, or why she needs it sooner.  While there are instances where even the sweetest of Sugar Babies can find herself in a bit of a tough spot, a gold digger is a professional con artist, and these sob stories will pile in almost weekly.  Also, don’t be surprised if she has a new designer bag on her wrist next time you see her after helping her pay for sudden car repairs.  

A gold digger clearly lacks goals short of getting the next check to cash. Motivated Sugar Babies have a goal in mind when entering the Sugar Bowl, whether it’s finishing school, building her own business, or as simple as getting out of debt.  There is one goal a gold digger may have that you should be weary of, securing steady cash flow through marriage or a bouncy bundle of joy.  That’s at least 18 years of steady monthly “allowance”.

Do keep in mind, just because she comes to the table with needs in the arrangement does not make her a gold digger. It means that she has a clear understanding of the workings of a mutually beneficial relationship.  While it’s always best to keep a look out for these flags, you would be doing yourself a disservice to overlook some of the prime Sugar Babies on SeekingArrangement for fear of tasting a little salt.  

What are some measures you take to keep gold diggers at bay?

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2,101 Responses to “Signs of a Gold Digger”

  1. nunyabizz says:

    spell check is so stupid let me say this again . If you are calling a women a gold digger because of your statements what you are is a low life using mf so get someone in your own class and learn how you can upgrade without tearing people down because you lack skills and money men are suppose to fullfill are needs. thank you

  2. nunyabizz says:

    well a gold digger digger your refering to is someone out of class range that is someone who expects what they diserve in there relationship in a different bracket you have no glue of if you have a gold digger so called you are not at her level thank you.

  3. Anonymous says:

    Champaigne cheeks = gold digger.

  4. Belle says:

    Hey sweetiepies! I know, this isn’t exactly the right topic, but who and where else could I ask? I wanted to know how much money I should take as a sugar baby. Everywhere I read “you should know your worth” but how do I find out what it is? Please be kind, I am new to this and really just want to know :)
    Have a nice evening y’all :)

    • Josh says:

      Not too many people hang out on older blog topics. I you want to know then post your question on the newest blog topic whatever that may be.

    • noname says:

      belle welcome to the sugar bowl as josh has said the regulars hangout in the most recent post to answer your question you need to know what your goals are for asking for a allowance besides getting as much as possible and what your plan is for leaving the sugar bowl you won’t be doing this forever then figure out how much that will cost then think about what you have to offer a sugar daddythen you will know your worth

  5. RebeccaArtgirl says:

    I find the process of an allowance a sore subject with some SD’s. I had one marvellous man that didn’t quibble and was more than happy to make my University studies easier, he was gem. I’ve had offers of one night sex even though I state on my profile that it’s not for me, no matter how much they pay. I like to get to know a person before I meet as its a big step and detest how some members get annoyed because I’m not interested in them.

  6. Anonymous says:

    Wary, not weary. There are too many grammatical errors in these articles; they hurt the credibility of the site.

  7. SadioWitch says:

    feminists on seekingarrangement lol

  8. Sabiá says:

    I believe I can see the difference between Gold Digging and Goal Digging. Especially if the SD profile states his intentions are to HELP someone. That doesn’t indicate that an SD wants to put $$ in my bank account but more so help me reach goals that call for better finances, quicker. Lol I’m in college and working on my career placement at a company I’ve worked at for 4yrs now. I’m literally getting to know and fairly close to the exec manager of the company. My downtime it limited due to having to put in enough hours for necessities and making time for studying. The less time I have to put towards working, leaves time for companionship that I otherwise wouldn’t have. I would be able to spend more of my afternoon/evenings studying rather than working so I could have more free time for fun. You wouldn’t believe how many men (more so boys) bitch about their girl not having time for them…but they’re not helping out financially so all the while not offering assistance or solution, they have the audacity to complain.

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  10. no such thing says:

    lol … “goal digger.” Nah, that pathetic attempt at rationalization and justification just doesn’t work. Still a GOLD digger.

    • anon says:

      You do realize this isn’t a traditional dating site, right? Girls here are looking for more than nice dinners and nights out on the town.

    • Anonymous says:

      Goal digger: wanting her tuition paid or help with a business startup. Learn the difference, otherwise I feel you might be on the wrong site.

  11. need my sugar says:

    Anyone have the url for the old site? Is it still available?

  12. need my sugar says:

    Anyone have the burl for the old site? Is it still available?

  13. Worldwide Bella says:

    I agree with this article completely. A sugar baby is not a gold digger, even if you meet when she is in financial debt. I’ve never considered myself a gold digger. I am just a beautiful intelligent women trying to survive and get myself back in school. All throughout history, especially back during the time when women had no rights, women had to rely on their Beauty and their Wits to influence men to make life changing decisions for all.

  14. Ryen says:

    Ah such a great read.

  15. Anonymous says:

    ALLL THESE OLD MOTHER FUCKAS WANT IS SEX

    • KiD-in-Motion says:

      True, True

    • Paulseeking says:

      So? You want our money we want you for your body… or wait maybe we want someone with a head on her shoulders and her body. Whatever each of us guys wants is not something to distress about. If you have not been able to get a guy to stay around for more than the bedroom then perhaps you need to figure out why that is with yourself

    • Anonymous says:

      Hmmm…thought provoking indeed!!!

      What else should these old MOTHER FUCKAS should be wanting from you?

  16. Anonymous says:

    How do you search by profile number (or even see it?)

    • THEATLSD says:

      Click on you browsers address bar and towards the enc of the http address in an alpha/ numeric code. I.e. Eef6d223
      On your phone it’s easier to see if you turn your phone sideways.

  17. Blondie74 says:

    These comments are hilarious. I’d just like to know why it is so hard for me to find a decent man who understands that if he expects me to fill his needs he needs to fill mine too. And I am very far from a gold digger, I actually hate shopping. I do think some of these trashy gold diggers ruin it for us realistic babies.

    • Anonymous says:

      Agreed!

    • THEATLSD says:

      It would help Blondie, if your profile didn’t come across as desperate and piss off. Lighten up and don’t worry about others talk about you.

    • elaine says:

      @Blondie

      Men on SA are searching for distraction and escape from their daily stressful lives and nagging wives.

      Your profile leaves the impression of being another problem for them to take care of.
      Don’t talk about what you DON’T want, talk about what you DO want!
      And more important; talk about what you will bring extra to HIS life!

      If someone gives you an allowance, it is because of what you do for THEM, not because YOU want a better life for your daughter. She is your responsability, not his. You want to use the allowance for her wellbeing, fine.

      Remember, desperate is NOT sexy, and you want to be his sexy fantasy.

      I wouldn’t expect too much from sugar if I were you…..

    • Motion-In-HeART says:

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  18. Ilovesbs says:

    dave is like a dog that always bark to get attention, and never stop barking because he’s never tired of hearing himself. keep barking, dave = rapist.

  19. Jaybird923 says:

    @TVC15 You can only argue with an idiot for so long before you start to feel like one too. If you’re game I’m in. No more feeding the trolls. Plus I’ve already accomplished what I wanted to.

    • TVC15 says:

      Definitely, I’m game. And yes, you’ve done some of your finest work with these morons over the last few days. But unfortunately, even when you score a direct hit on an idiot, he’s too stupid to realize it.

    • Catcher 22 says:

      @Jay. That was my suggestion to you a few days back. Why waste your time and energy on a lost cause. It only encourages him to keep serving up his idiotic rants and nonsense.

  20. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Anonymous and Horndog

    She pleaded guilty. And yes it nicely shows the strange standard of justice system. Yes the laws might be absolutely gender neutral, but will be enforced with profound bias in favor of one gender.

  21. Dovetail says:

    Meh can’t log in to the blog.

  22. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Dave

    Married or not, she raped a 14 y/o child.

    • Anonymous says:

      Wasn’t she acquitted? The age of consent, at least for boys, should be lowered to 12 like some other countries, and no age requirement at all if the boy has already had sex before. The female teacher is rendering a valuable service to the 14yo boy, who was a willing participant. The government, jealous white-knights and ugly hags all need to butt out.

      The situation with male teachers doing under-age female students is a little different: the risk of pregnancy to the minor. Unlike the female teacher is taking the full biological burden of pregnancy if it happens, the male teacher would be imposing that on the minor girl and her parents.

      • Anonymous says:

        The situation with male teachers doing under-age female students is a little different: the risk of pregnancy to the minor.

        So it’s okay for you to rape 8 year old girls who can’t get pregnant? RETARD

      • Anonymous says:

        8 is before puberty. A 14yo is sexually active nowadays.

      • Anonymous says:

        Rape a guy ? Not likely.
        “Officer, my dick just accidentally got hard when this super hot girl wanted me to fuck her ” And yes, I know I am 50 lbs heavier than she is .

        Assault maybe or contributing to the delinquency of a minor if she grabbed his penis against his will. But if he got erect and stuck it in the pussy ,it’s on him.

  23. Another Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous

    That much for equality. Had it been a 14 y/o female student and a teacher with the body of a Greek god, he would be already doing time as a convicted rapist. QED.

  24. Another Anonymous says:

    @ FunDude

    It would also be nice to see a link where female teachers are getting same time behind bars as their male counterparts for intimacy with students.

    • Anonymous says:

      remember Debra Lafave ? Beautiful ! If my 14 yr old son got into that I would give him an award of some kind. She was so hot she did not get jail time .

      • Dave says:

        she was married at the time you dumbfuck…

      • Anonymous says:

        So? Are you more concerned about her being married than her fucking a 14 year old?

      • Dave says:

        Nothing honorable about fucking another mans wife no matter how hot she is . She’s a weird skank

      • Anonymous says:

        SO what?

      • Anonymous says:

        He’s a CHILD you thick headed ugly beast.

      • Horndog says:

        It was wrong of her to have sex with a 14 year old student. However, her case does show the double standard in our justice system. She was really attractive so she did not see any prison time and got probation. Had the situation been reversed, even if the guy looked like Leonardo DiCaprio, if he was 30 and had sex with a 14 year old female student, he would be in jail for many years.

  25. fundude says:

    Finally, some equality!

    {{http://www.people.com/article/morena-baccarin-pay-austin-chick-23000-spousal-child-support}}

    Ok, now back to work!

    • SDaddy says:

      Niiice! Finally some justice,although for three yrs of marriage that is a hefty “gotcha”

      • TVC15 says:

        Hey! You’re the one who told me to stop feeding the trolls!

      • SDaddy says:

        OOPs ! But @FD is aggressive but not toxic. The other is dangerous. And he brings up a very valid point about inequities in the divorce business.

      • TVC15 says:

        Of course he’s toxic! He’s Dave’s best buddy and is a hostile, woman-hating rape apologist. He’s also totally in favour of inequity, as long as it’s to the man’s benefit. As well, he keeps making lengthy, incoherent, repetitive, misogynistic posts that always say the exact same things. Please don’t encourage the guy!

        I promise to stop feeding the trolls. It would be really nice if other people who used to like it here would do the same.

      • Josh says:

        No. He does not get a real job. If he did, his spousal support would be shot.

      • fundude says:

        LOL I’m a “rape apologist” because I don’t believe feminist bullshit

        Got to hand it to the feminists, their shaming language is coming on hardcore.

      • Anonymous says:

        Says the guy who isn’t a SD but supports them scamming SBs and self admitted women haters?

        You need talk no more, you showed your true colors.

    • Anonymous says:

      Shoooot ! All that dude had to do was quit his job,screw the movie star for 3 yrs ,change a few diapers ,and he makes $276,000 /yr for the foreseeable future. Now he can get a real job and hire a bunch of SBs

      • Anonymous says:

        She is already 36. There are only a few years left in her acting career as a hot and temping female lead pulling in $1.5mil a year. Soon enough she will ask a judge to modify the spousal support, and that will be the end of his gravy train.

        She did make several mistakes in her life:

        1. Choosing acting as career; those jobs have very uneven incomes. Not even the late great Robin Williams could keep his income growing late in his career.

        2. Marrying a loser who doesn’t have any income of his own.

        3. Cheating on the loser husband. Get a divorce first, and she probably would have had the custody and not having to pay any child support or spousal support if she divorced first before cheating.

        This story doesn’t look like something that has a good ending. If the new guy has a brain, he should realize that she is unmarriageable before she gets the spousal support liability reduced. Otherwise, the new husband would be the one paying the previous husband as she will soon have less income.

  26. CFC says:

    Cheezits! F*nk’n Crackers
    This shyiet still going on? Give it a break, already, stop feeding the shyiet!

  27. TVC15 says:

    This blog is starting to remind me of the end of a zombie movie, after all the humans have been eaten.

  28. fundude says:

    @Dave

    That is the fraud of modern feminism. Women pretend they would like 50/50 relationships but really don’t.

    They want all the benefits and no obligations these days.

    Marriage can only be partially justified with its MAJOR risks if:

    1) 50/50 income and household “sharing”. The woman needs to bring in half of the bacon. If she has a kid, she stops working for only a few months for maternity leave but then returns promptly.

    2) Housewife that cooks/cleans/cares for a good number of children. These women must be NON PROMISCUOUS before marriage and YOUNGER to achieve this role.

    How many women are really like either of the above two options? Very rare.

    Often, they are mid 30s women who decide after riding the CC hard, they would like beta bucks to pay for them so they can go part time or stop working.

    • Dave says:

      I was married for 8 years to a “modern day female” attorney. The whole equal thing is a farce. I once believed in this garbage because we have been brainwashed in school…..except..one time an old FEMALE English teacher (she was 75 in 1989) of mine told me that no woman will find a man attractive, who treats her as an equal. I learned that the hard way many times after.

      • Anonymous says:

        A woman’s best asset and value (her physical beauty) only decreases as she ages. On the other hand, a man’s economic value frequently goes up as he gets older. That is why the older SD/younger SB works well. Both are at their prime and able to exploit each other’s best assets.

    • Dave says:

      ..then your CHILD gets shoved off to substandard daycare while she cohorts with the upper echelons of corporate America. WHo knows if she’s not fucking her boss ? or if she is drinking with people after work? WHo is taking care of the kid ? The kid will hate his parents for being selfish money hungry animals.

      • Anonymous says:

        Describing your mother’s antics dave? That’s how she started being a cum-dumpster to put food on the table for the child she tried to abort but unfortunately it was too late.

  29. sugar baby monkey says:

    i just want to say the korean girl is very ugly and stupid!
    second: jaybird why you feel so offended when someone tries to say the truth about your transgender body? perhaps your breast is not fake but your breast and body are similar to a transgender body, i say this because after i saw the body of caitlyn jenner, i automatically thought “wow that’s the body of jaybird!” i think your sugar daddy should have “weird” preferences!

    Peace

    • Dave says:

      she has Factor of 1/2 refund gap; mathematically speaking, she should get a refund of 1/2 of what she actually paid for those cockeyed nipples.

      • Ilovesbs says:

        @dave shut the fuck up about jaybird, and go suck dick behind closed doors. We don’t need to know that your mother has cockeyed nipples, tell that bitch to keep being a cum-dumpster for a dollar per john. You know, just like you yourself are a john.

  30. Dave says:

    I’d rather be nuked by North Korea than to rely on a woman to support me. Secondly, we know women cannot work for hours, weeks, years on end as a man does and support a husband. Imagine the nagging the guy has to endure when SHE gets home from a “hard days work.: If women wanted to actually bust their ass, they woudldn’t need to whore on SA.

    • ks says:

      It was probably a woman who changed your diapers, wiped your little backside and encouraged and trained you to use the potty. Children are a 24-hour job. Most men yearn to go to work rather than face that job every day… If there was a poll most women would likely agree with you…you need to be nuked by North Korea…

      • Dave says:

        quit responding like an emotional tampon. I SAID “WORK TO SUPPORT A MAN.” Any woman that raises children, feeds a husband, and cleans a home is WAY MORE HONORABLE than a so-called career woman.

      • Anonymous says:

        Actually she’d be a rare gem, to have such a stupid low-life for a husband that can’t support his family. Men like that should be sterilized.

      • Anonymous says:

        Dave, you misunderstood what “emotional tampon” means. Your whining here is essentially showing everyone that your emotions fit that of a female and you are looking for an emotional tampon to soak up your internal bleeding (bleeding heart or being hysterical, who knows).

        Speaking of the perils of being an adult male supported by a woman, isn’t that what you are showing living at your mom’s house, therefore having to live under her rules? You emasculated little eunuch.

      • Dave says:

        another PHD level Prostitute …

      • Anonymous says:

        Dave, your gender detector is not working. You need to get out of your mom’s house more often to meet more people of both genders.

      • ks says:

        I believe responding like an emotional tampon is a step up from behaving like a child. SA is an adult orientated site, yet the provocative insults you spew in order to ignite some sort of gender war are juvenile. They have some sort of bizarre entertainment value similar to watching a clown at work. You also said “rely on a woman to support me.” A woman has probably supported you through some stages of your life and also a man. You might think a nearly all-male environment is a fun thing, if so, go enlist in the navy, especially subs…but I doubt you would pass the psychological tests. Why you would seek to dishonor people who make a career choice in their lives is a mystery to me. Sad. Very sad.

    • Anonymous says:

      Men should work to support women and their lifestyles as they’re basically worthless as reproductive persons, to carry babies and keep the gene pool moving.

      • Anonymous says:

        Women are actually very valuable, and is the limiting factor, in terms of reproducing and keeping the human species alive.

        Men have relatively little value in reproduction. That’s why individual man have to perform and excel in other fields, in order to prove his genetic worth.

        That’s also why women face very high opportunity cost if they try to excel in professional fields before reproducing.

      • Anonymous says:

        I meant men are worthless in other biological areas of life, besides work, work and more work.

    • fundude says:

      LOL so true Dave

      Words of wisdom

      • Dave says:

        Imagine how entitled a woman would get financially supporting a man. Nagging, bossing him around, essentially emasculating him. Now you cannot go hunting without asking HER for ammo ? Can you go play soccer with your buddies instead of listening to her problems over a glass of Chardonnay? Who cleans the house ? What if changes her mind about what you should cook for dinner? they flake every minute about their fucking shoes much less dinner.

    • anonymous says:

      Some women “whore” on SA, while dave’s mother whores on the street corners.

  31. Josh says:

    @Jaybird923

    “I think you’re really stretching to make that feminist lingo Josh.”

    I have posted this link in the past but here it is again dear. 😉

    [https://exposingfeminism.wordpress.com/shaming-tactics/]

    • Anonymous says:

      What about the shaming tactics of misogynysts such as calling women on SA whores (Dave) or older women useless (FD)?

      • Dave says:

        shaming? Men are not attracted to old bags of wrinkly vagina. that’s not shaming. That’s biology !

      • Anonymous says:

        Well then it’s only fair that men who have small microscopic penises are ridiculed, it’s not a shaming tactic, it’s Biology.

      • Dave says:

        are you perving on me ? how do you know the size of my ding don ?

      • Anonymous says:

        I was talking about the ding dong being used as a shaming tactic is fair, and you demonstrated it. You have an IQ of 1 so I’ll be nice, to a retarded rapist RR.

    • Josh says:

      “Biologically”, in order to claim someone has small penis or gigantic vagina, you’d have to somehow see/experience it first. 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        Your point is invalid for two reasons:
        1. Biologically you’d have to see if someone has a old wrinkly v too.
        2. Living in mom’s basement is easily proven/seen.
        3. You’d have to be with someone 24/7 to know if they’re a whore or not.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      @Josh I’m so sorry. Why didn’t you just say it was on WordPress? No need to post a link. Everyone knows if it’s on the Internet it must be true. Especially on WordPress, you know not just any yahoo can post things there

  32. anonymous says:

    Lol. That explains it all, dave loves to suck dick on the low. Haha. :)

  33. Anonymous1 says:

    @dave come out of the closet already, dude.

  34. Anynymous says:

    Yep, dave could be gay and try to mask his stories.

  35. Ilovesbs says:

    @dave and your mother will always have herpes from sucking so many dicks for a dime, each. You see your mother in every woman, it seems.

  36. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Dave and Guru

    Purely an issue of finance. Imagine a married guy, who is a stay at home husband and his only cash is a meager allowance from his wife (employed or trust fund kid). What are his chances in sugar bowl?

    • Horndog says:

      He better stick to the Minimal girls and hope to God that his wife never find out or his “meager allowance” will be reduced to zero.

    • SDaddy says:

      2 things:

      1)get a job and take care of yourself ,and
      2)don’t screw around

      The courts are not slanted towards stay at home men in giving alimony ,plus you will lose the kids as well as have to pay child support.

      • Another anonymous says:

        @ SDaddy

        Really? I am quite sure the guy sacrificed his career to be a supportive spouse and had to spend his last ten years on the golf course and in the bars. He deserves 50% of the family assets and an alimony. Aside of that not giving him enough money and isolating him from the (SB)friends might constitute an emotional abuse. :-)

      • Josh says:

        And don’t forget he has gotten used to certain lifestyle, which MUST be ensured until he remarries even at the cost of the ex’s wellbeing.

      • SDaddy says:

        Deserving that and getting awarded that in the US court system are two different things . A SAHD (stay at home dad) deserves everything that a “house wife” gets but frequently gets only the shaft. You lawyers amongst us could perhaps comment on that .

      • Anonymous says:

        I am a lawyer but you basically answered your own question. Deserving and getting rewarded are two different things.

  37. @youngshe says:

    dave has another profile where he’s actually looking for male S.Bs? That explains why he hates women so much. It’s time to come out of the closet, dave.

  38. Dave says:

    one thing you SA skanks (that I scam) cannot prevent. You’ll never be able to un-suck my cock. Remember that and have a nice day :)

  39. TVC15 says:

    It would be nice if someone would start a blog where SB’s and SD’s could post their thoughts, ask advice, and compare notes.

    • Anonymous says:

      Is that not what we are doing here and now?

      • TVC15 says:

        Not as far as I can tell. It seems to have turned into an endless flame war with rapists and MRA’s.

    • SDaddy says:

      @TVC

      Agreed -just post real thoughts and comments and stop feeding the beast . As long as you rise to the bait and respond to the inane comments and insults he will keep it up . Don’t you know you are giving him the attention he craves . In his 5th grade Sex Ed class nobody pays him any attention -except security when they take him off to the principle’s office -again .

      Do the shun

      • TVC15 says:

        Yeah, you’re right. I’ll have to start ignoring Dave and FD just like I do Josh. It’s not even fun anymore, it’s boring; they just keep posting the same things over and over.

        How about the rest of you ladies? Are you with me? Without female attention, the two of them will dry up and blow away.

    • ks says:

      It’s quite entertaining in its own bizarre way. It would be nice to just uprate or down rate the comments in a Disqus kind of way…

      • TVC15 says:

        It was entertaining for awhile. But now all the rapists and MRAs seem to be able to do is repeat themselves over and over and post links nobody’s going to visit, so it’s gotten really boring.

  40. fundude says:

    Don’t take shit Dave. Keep the fire under their asses lol

    • Dave says:

      Is Elaine an old SB? she only responds to age slights on here…it must be tough to tell her SD that part of the sugar package includes paying for her arthritis cream .

      • Anonymous says:

        According to @elaine her SD is much younger than her and 10K times richer than her. So yeah, apparently there are very very rich young guys out there paying older women to be their SB.

      • Dave says:

        According to my wishes in life, I can out dribble Lionel Messi @ the World Cup .

      • fundude says:

        She is in her 40s Dave, yet gets muscular, tall, rich men in their 20s to pay her 15K/month plus vacations to be lucky enough to have her as a SB.

      • Dave says:

        I have a bridge for sale in Brooklyn, 50% Tuesday discount of $1,000,000.

      • Anonymous says:

        @dave. I am surprised that you chose a soccer player as a wishful thinking example. It is not a popular sport in the US. Are you from S. America or Europe? Most Americans will not know who Lionel Messi is but will know LeBron James or Tom Brady.

      • Dave says:

        Did you not read me past posts you silly skank? I played soccer @ the NCAA DIV I collegiate level.

      • Anonymous says:

        LOL actually I’m not a skank. I’m a guy who just logged on and have been reading some of the back and forth here. I have not read your previous posts. I was just surprised at someone mentioning the World Cup instead of the World Series.

      • ks says:

        @Anon He/she also mentioned “bugger” a day or two ago, more of a British thing than an American expression … you are on to something.

    • Ilovesbs says:

      dave himself is shit. He doesn’t just smell like it, but he literally is a piece of shit. Can’t get any lower than that… Oh yeah, his mother’s worse.

    • Anonymous says:

      Though I am against scamming anybody, I wish that one of those tumblr rinsers does that to you or your wife leaves your ugly ass dry on the court.
      Hey, it’s only fair since you support crook Dave.

  41. fundude says:

    Congrats to Cassie Jaye for making the “Red Pill” movie, showing feminists being the fascist liars they have become:

    {{http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/23/how-a-movie-about-the-mens-rights-movement-became-a-feminists-journey/?utm_source=The+Federalist+List&utm_campaign=6fcaeb6ccc-RSS_The_Federalist_Daily_Updates_w_Transom&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_cfcb868ceb-6fcaeb6ccc-83810945}}

  42. Ilovesbs says:

    @dave If your mother’s still alive, I bet she’d want to kill herself knowing what has become of you. Poor whore, she should’ve had an abortion instead of making a mistake like you. No wonder why you call every woman a cunt/whore/slut just like your mother is/was. Hope you find peace dave as you are so miserable, pitiful and deeply troubled.

    • Dave says:

      we got another shrink who moonlights as a prostitute. I’m so impressed by you career-minded women !

    • Ilovesbs says:

      @dave you can’t even defend your mother and yourself because you know your mother is or was a cunt/whore/slut/cum-dumpster. You can’t argue about the fact that you are miserable, insecure, ugly, troubled and pitiful individual. It’s understandable as to why you loathe your own existence.

      • Dave says:

        that was your awarding winning PHD research? when they introduced you at the Doctorate Awards Ceremony did they introduce you as the number 4 street hooker on SA as one of your long list of accomplishments?

      • Ilovesbs says:

        @dave thanks for telling us how your mother got a “certificate” in whoring. She fucked so many men whoring around that her vagina’s pretty much nonexistent. She reeks herpes. I wouldn’t touch your cunt mother even with a 10f ft pole. The sad thing is that your mother thinks that being a whore/cunt/cum-dumpster is an accomplishment.

      • Dave says:

        you said whore 3 times in one post. There’s a stampede coming from the NBA retirement home toward your direction ! run fast !

      • Ilovesbs says:

        @dave I said that word 3 times in one post, but that doesn’t excuse the fact that your mother has been whoring and that cunt is ancient. What’s worse, saying it or your mother being a whore all her life?

  43. Dave says:

    Let us calculate the refund gap on Jaybird. The necklace ornament she has hanging from it (probably a Blue Light Special Faux Gold plated penchant) appears to be about 5 inches long X 4 inches wide. It is hanging and easily fites between the fake bolt-ons she has. What do you guys think? Shouldn’t she demand a partial refund from her surgeon? or did she get that horrible tit job in Honduras ? I would say if she spent $4000 on the tit job with a 4 inch refund gap she should be getting at least $2000 of her money back. Then again, she is an SA whore and probably let the good ole doc take a dump on her for a the refund gap tit job.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      LMAOROTFBTCSTCNDBFOOTWIFOAGWLLBGWTHROOTSAIAKBAYB

    • Ilovesbs says:

      @dave It’s so easy to criticize people based on their appearance. Judging that Jaybird doesn’t have a problem getting and keeping men, and the guys she get are 10 times better looking than you, so keep on barking (like the dog that you are), if that makes you feel better about yourself. It still doesn’t change the fact that you’re ugly inside and out.

      • Dave says:

        you paint a picture of a vagina on hamburger bun and the men Jaybird gets will fuck it. That’s no big feat. It’s not like she won the nobel prize for being an easy lay.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Dave has never seen breast in real life. The idiot thinks women’s breast touch in the middle. lol

        @Dave Unless she’s wearing one of those cleavage enhancing bras that pushes them together to make them look bigger they don’t touch in the middle ignaramous.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Is that with you do with the buns at the burger shack where you work? Paint vaginas on them and fuck ’em. You’re disgusting LMAO

      • Dave says:

        your refund gap is so huge that you need a GPS tracker to locate them when you get dressed in the morning, or in your case in the afternoon when “John” is finished.

      • Ilovesbs says:

        @dave she’s wearing a bustier dress. Given that she’s had a bustier dress on then it’s unlikely her breast would touch in the middle. The cut of the front of the dress, and her breast size play a key role too. It would be a different story if she had a V neck dress on. This shows that you’ve only been with sbs in your imagination, which is quite small by the way.

      • Dave says:

        whenever I paint yours on the bun it always has yellow and white mold coming out of it. I didn’t know your special sauce was herpes.

      • Dave says:

        thanks for the technical analysis of the breast refund gap. I’m sure the National Science Foundation will want to publish your thesis. DO you think she was blowing the surgeon before or after the operation? The guy was probably texting his wife at the same time.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Yeah Dave, I have implants… yawn. Enough of you for now I have a meeting to get to, can’t sit around chatting with idiots all day. Until later.

      • Dave says:

        meeting? as in rubbing baby oil on wrinkly old man hairy balls ?

    • Anonymous says:

      It is very hard to do breast implants on really thin women. You have to put the implants under the muscle which is a technically more demanding surgery. Most thin women with implants will always show a gap. Few surgeons give refunds though. They will most likely offer to revise the surgery at a reduced cost.

      • Dave says:

        yes, thank you for explaining he definition of a refund gap. Then there’s nothing natural about that look. Two tits staring in opposite directions … fucking hilarious !

  44. Dave says:

    ever read some of these profiles. Women won’t date a guy who DOES live with his mom and takes care of her (as if that’s an insult) but these same vapid whores will take money and screw a guy who lives with his WIFE !!

    • Josh says:

      Like I said before @Dave does come up with some interesting angles when he is not talking about scamming women. 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        @Dave does have a point. It’s ok to date a married guy but a single guy living with his mom is considered a “loser” in our society. I see very few SB profiles that state she will not talk to married SD’s.

      • Anonymous says:

        A single guy living at his parents’ house is most likely someone who can not afford a place of his own, and is usually rejected in even normal dating if the guy is over 30, or even over 25, as a prima facie proof as a loser. However, a single guy who is the owner of a big house or building, and let’s his parents live with him due to his generosity and filial piety doesn’t have any difficulty dating on or off SA, especially if the house/building is big enough to ensure privacy (separate bathroom and kitchen from parents, and bedrooms not next to each other) and/or if he has other houses/locations for meeting up.

        Many SB’s actually do explicitly list refusal to talk to married SD’s.

      • Anonymous says:

        Because married SD’s are the majority here, and if that wasn’t enough of an argument, men who are either married or single, doesn’t matter which who claim to be independent, successful and basically wealthy, why would they live with their 80 yr old mother at her house when they are at an advanced age themselves and established already?

        How come SB’s are blamed for the extramarital affairs of the SD’s?

      • Dave says:

        Did you not read my post you dumpster ? it says “takes care of her”. Did you have at least a GED ?

      • Anonymous says:

        “Take care of her” doesn’t mean jack sh*t if the son is not the owner of the house. Many a selfish single mother let their son live in their houses, both to emasculate him now that the husband is either dead or gone, and to use him as a less expensive alternative to a handyman.

        Such an man emasculated by his mother would indeed become resentful of all women, just like Dave.

      • Anonymous says:

        Methnks Dave is exactly such a “perv uncle” at Thanksgiving family gatherings.

      • TVC15 says:

        “How come SB’s are blamed for the extramarital affairs of the SD’s?”

        Because:

        * Everything bad that men do is the fault of women.
        * Everything good that men do is to the credit of men.
        * Everything bad that women do is the fault of women.
        * Women never do anything good.

        Haven’t you been taking notes?!?

      • Anonymous says:

        Are you talking to anon 1 or anon 2? Living with someone and taking care of them are two different things, as is living in your mother’s basement. Idiot

      • Anonymous says:

        A 25+ adult son “taking care of mom” while living at her house is using a euphemism for not being able to afford a place of his own.

        A competent man should be able to send helpers over if the parents want to keep their own house, or let the parents move into a big house/building that the competent man owns himself if the parents are willing to sell their own house and move closer to the son, so they can spend more time together in the parents’ final years.

  45. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question to feminists and those who use feminist lingo and formulations…

    Why is it that it is always man who writes on the Internet from his mom’s basement?

    Can’t a man write from his dad’s basement?

    Can’t a woman write from her mom’s or dad’s basement?

    A word of GURU advice…when you use idiotic feminist formulations and lingo then don’t turn around and claim that you’re not a feminist.

    • Dave says:

      the think that’s an insult .. penis size comes next…

      • Anonymous says:

        Penis size an actual insult loser. Just tell us you have a 1 inch ‘dick’ and we’ll laugh! It’s more of a joke than an insult actually.

      • Dave says:

        I’m not interested in showing you my schlong, thank you for the offer though !

      • Josh says:

        Penis size, as in length, is a flawed reference. Due the anatomy of women, it’s the girth that matters more. Which, again, is relative to the tightness of the vagina, and hence men seeking younger pussy.

        Technically speaking, penis jokes are pretty much valid coming from a teenage girl than from a 30-somethings or 40-somethings or 50-somethings…who actually make such “jokes”. 😉

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I think you’re really stretching to make that feminist lingo Josh.

      • Dave says:

        I am betting Jaybird has requested that SA have one more expectation level lower than minimal.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I did! How did you know? It was so your used up whore of a mom could have a fighting chance. She’s getting to old to stand on street corners you know. No need to thank me.

      • Dave says:

        I always knew you were riding her coattails because you cannot figure out how to give away your Chlamydia trap for free !

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Don’t even make sense. You’re boring me now. Maybe you should stick to creating more fairy tales. It requires a certain level of intelligence to insult people and as we both know you’re severely deficient in that area.

      • Dave says:

        coming from an SA whore who had a horrible boob job…did you not see the refund gap between your bolt-ons ?? you need a refund from your surgeon. that’s called a refund gap…

      • Jaybird923 says:

        ROTFLMAO Oh my God You’re stupid. And the sad part is you’re really giving it your all and that’s the best you could come up with. It’s almost no more fun messing with you. it’s starting to feel like I’m picking on the mentally retarded. Where’s the sport in that.

      • Dave says:

        I would guess the only sport you got a medal for was “hide the salami from the married guy’s wife”

      • Anonymous says:

        More in the lines of: “hide the salami from the married manwhore’s wife”.

    • Anonymous says:

      Dads should have enough insight to realize that letting a son stay in the basement of the parents’ house is highly detrimental to his maturing process. Mothers tend to be more spoiling, and if the dad is absent, may just be selfish enough to keep a son around in the basement to help taking care of things around the house that she is not able to do.

      Also, young women are more likely to move out of parents’ house asap (to date, to get married, etc.), whereas young men are less willing to move out. The gender gap shows up in statistics since at least the 1940’s, when the statistics began.

      • Dave says:

        “women .. to date married ..etc””what’s the etc part? to be a whore on SA? what an honorable choice !

      • Anonymous says:

        The “etc.” part is for: running away from the mother. Teenager girls don’t like their mother hens. Women are social-ranking conscious; so long as she lives at the mother’s house, she is always hen-pecked by the mother. After living by herself for a while, either married or not, she will love her mom again in her late 20’s and 30’s.

  46. Dave says:

    I love the SA whore over 35 … they get mad when I reject them. Did you not realize your best years have come and gone ? A 1985 Chevrolet Cavalier is not a classic honey it is an old worthless car. You women are only a Ferrari between the ages of 18-30. Why don’t you get that simple concept ? after 35 and if you’re single, you’re a pump and dump.

  47. Dave says:

    @ KORE .. My company has a branch in Bangalore. We bring in the Indian women for 2 year assignments. One came to work in the supply chain division. Within 2 weeks she was fucking me. She wanted some white dick. After going out twice , I texted her a few times and all I got was radio silence. Come to find out the following weekend that she was in an arranged wedding (marriage) and the whole time she was fucking me was engaged (set up by horoscope with both families) the whole time she was fucking me. Glad to see you have copied the vapid whoring and Western female morals.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      ROTFLMAO I just did a google search Dave there aren’t any Burger Shacks in Bangalore. Even if there were, there are plenty of people to empty out the grease traps in India. They wouldn’t go to expense of sending you. You stupid ignoramus lol

      • Dave says:

        is that where you do your best soliciting ? at the corners of fast food joints ? so you’re trying to upgrade to SA with no luck ?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Yawn … if you want to insult me at least put some effort into it.

      • Dave says:

        that’s not a yawn, that’s you receiving a married man’s cock for a Burberry purse, or in your case a Wal Mart handbag.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        better but still no good. Designer goods hold no appeal for me and if I want a designer handbag I can buy it myself at a significant discount so I don’t need and SD for that. try again

      • Dave says:

        discounted?? how ? by doing anal with the geriatric crowd you hit up ?

    • Kore13 says:

      @Dave [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ5LpwO-An4]

  48. Dave says:

    look look what do we have here….SA whores wanting to be treated like queens and stating they are classy yet covering up their faces or eyes in shame? they speak with a forked tongue !

    • Anonymous says:

      The only fork in this conversation will be the one up you ass anally, pegging with you hands ties like a pig and an apple in your mouth, served as a fresh fat paypig. Yum

  49. elaine says:

    @Jay

    Well although I agreed with Josh and you didn’t, in fact we meant the same 😉

    “she’ll start overlooking shortcomings or compromising those standards to make him fit”.

    “Priority for most women is to be mated at all cost. Even if that means altering their personalities and beliefs to fit his ideal”

    That is my perception of being “horrible at screening men” :-)

  50. elaine says:

    @Jay

    Well although I agreed with Josh and you didn’t, in fact we meant the same 😉

    “she’ll start overlooking shortcomings or compromising those standards to make him fit”.

    “Priority for most women is to be mated at all cost. Even if that means altering their personalities and beliefs to fit his ideal”

    That is my perception of beeing “horrible at screening men” :-)

  51. Another Anonymous says:

    @ FunD

    Actually Kore’s arguments have good points. True money in itself is a source of very strong emotions. But is also allows you to either buy positive or avoid negative emotions.

  52. Some Random Baby says:

    Hello,

    What does men really mean when they write on their profiles that they aren’t looking for ” gold-diggers”?

    Are Sugarbabies gold diggers because they expect some financial support from their partners for various reasons?

    Or is it too much to expect a some handbag, or accessories to dress up when you are going out with him?

    • ks says:

      In my recent experience I would terms someone a gold-digger when she needs an advance on her next month allowance, then 2 days later needs funds to buy a new computer, then 2 days later needs funds to fix her car, then a week later wants an advance on the month after the month she already had advanced. There are better charitable cases to give charity to then SB…because someone has money does not mean they have to give it all to you…pure greed and a con artist…

    • Kore13 says:

      Sweetheart, the majority of people think that sugar is about allowance for intimacy. It is more the opportunity to share a moment of life together with someone who has different lifestyle from you (a more luxurious one, probably).

      If you want some accessoires to look good for being around him, I can very well understand that – my SD wasn’t happy when I had to show up to the business party with a rock-chique cross shoulder instead of a clutch (I didn’t own one). If you’re being reasonable (because he isn’t your ATM and he isn’t your father and he’s definitely not St. Nic), I don’t think there should be anything wrong with suggesting or even stating clearly what you want.

      The point is, both of you are making one another happy. If you’re doing that with a man, he will normally reciprocate.

    • elaine says:

      @Random baby

      If they state that explicitly in their profile, most of the cases they are cheapo’s who want it for free, he will start “shaming” you as soon as the allowance talk starts. (by you because he will never bring it up by himself)

      An experienced businessman who is used to negotiate and who understands how sugar works, would never state this in his profile.

      He just relies on his ability to sense one when he sees one. He is supposedly rich you know, so he’s used to people always wanting things from him, he has learned to weed them out.

      And he is also clever enough to know that writing such thing in his profile will not keep them golddiggers away in any case.

      Next him.

      • ks says:

        @Elaine Partly agree. Even in business we pick the occasional dud, its not all win-win as the hypesters would have you believe. Some you win, some you lose. As long as the winners exceed the losers then everything is fine… knowing when to cut your losses and move on is key…

  53. Kore13 says:

    @Josh “Absolutely not.”

    Well, that was just to make sure… But then, just why do laws exist in the first place? And why do they differ from place to place? The only answer I can think of is that it has to do with the way people FEEL. Think of any law – it’s been put there since the majority of a people in that place felt that it would be, ‘bad,’ if x or y were to happen. The same law might not exist in another place where people feel otherwise… Then there’re degrees of severity in punishment.

    This was what I meant when I said to @Fundude that logically, emotions trump money in importance. Even money itself is an outcome of feelings – someone felt the “IOU,” was better than risking a favour go altogether unpaid. He expected others to care and needed some physical evidence to back his case up.

    The law is actually protecting well-being, which doesn’t stop at physics but often requires it.

    “..and starts reinterpreting the fact that SHE allowed them inside her…that should not be allowed.”

    I have never argued nor will I ever argue that exploiting the law is alright. The thing is just that there a social / mental dynamic to rape that plays a huge role.

    • fundude says:

      Money is a result of “feeling”? No, a legally binding contract for payment is not an “emotion”, its a LEGAL CONTRACT.

      Your arguments are ridiculous that emotion trumps money in importance.

      • Kore13 says:

        @Fundude You’re going to have to give me something more than that.

        Tell me why legal contracts exist.

    • Josh says:

      @Kore

      Very interesting and unique observations as always. :)

      I will try to respond when I am on my computer.

  54. Josh says:

    “Men may be bad in screening women but women are horrible in screening men.” The GURU.

    • elaine says:

      Yes, you are absolutely right in that.

    • Kore13 says:

      Hmmm…………

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I’m going to disagree with you Josh and say that women are just as good at screening men. But where they differ is men are more likely to hold out for exactly what they were looking for and not compromise. While most women suffer from what I have termed the square peg syndrome.

      A man will date you for 8 years and not marry you and date the next women after you for 7 months and be married before the year is out. That’s because that while you were okay for now you came up short and didn’t meet his standards/ideal of who is wife should be.

      A woman on the other hand has a set of standards and depending on the available man or how much time she’s put into him she’ll start overlooking shortcomings or compromising those standards to make him fit (square peg round hole)

      Priority for most women is to be mated at all cost. Even if that means altering their personalities and beliefs to fit his ideal. Then you end up in a situation where she’s unhappy and feels she needs to find herself and The women the man is married to isn’t the one he married.

      I used marriage as an example but the same occurs in the sugar bowl. Some SBs you’ll P4P once or twice while you look for the one you want long term.

  55. elaine says:

    I think we should arrange a blind date for “Dave” and “SBM”.

    Match made in heaven, lots to talk about, lots of new words to exchange, lot’s of insults to invent, lot’s pimples to squeeze.

    Maybe they can even go blogging together in his mom’s basement!

    • sugar baby monkey says:

      wow the ugly frech is talking. really it’s funny and disgusting at the same time: “pimples to squeeze” what? is she writting that? disgusting. then i don’t know who is Dave but really, elaine, are you talking seriously? when you write “In his mom’s basement?” i mean you should see where you are! you’re in SA praying for some money in exchange of a blow job! and you calling him “loser”? who is the loser here? the dirty bitch trying to get some money in exchange of a blow job is the loser here, hence you’re the pathetic one here. all these stuff that you said made me think you must live in the basement of your mother, what i really think that would be normal on you, because your ugly face says everything about your pathetic and dirty life.

    • sugar baby monkey says:

      it’s not my fault if you have issues squeezing your pimples

      • elaine says:

        @ SBM

        Wahahahaha, please continue!!

        I love your ridiculous rants, they are so amusing. They enlighten my boring excistence in mom’s basement. :-)

        PS. My last pimples disappeared already 25 y ago. 😉

      • SB Monkey's Sister says:

        This isn’t the original SBM, I am her sister so I would know. She’s not batshit guys, just some random person impersonating her.

  56. sugar baby monkey says:

    Says a lot about her “sophisticated” character, specially!

  57. Dovetail says:

    @ Anon The only one who made any mention of my companion is sbm, no one including myself on this blog brought it up, so what the heck they are talking about is beyond me. There is no drama between me and mine.

  58. Dovetail says:

    Please someone save the blog. SBM is boring me to death.

  59. sugar baby monkey says:

    why this freak ugly maculine female, the cat lovers, now changed her name? Dovetail? “Oh i love the weird stuff” “i’m a cat lover” please grow up weirdo! OMG get a life! at first you were around reading to everyone like a harasser and now you’re hiding your real identity and writting stupid stuff here, day and night! i think your sugar daddy should be careful of you, you have scary issues!

    i agree with fundude there are too much ugliness on SA specially for pathetic weirdos like Dovetail!

    • Dovetail says:

      What the hell are you talking about?

      • Dovetail says:

        Must have hit a nerve. lol.

      • sugar baby monkey says:

        you’re always here obsessed for every comment? i’m afraid really! MisterY

      • Dovetail says:

        Simply tired of listening to you all bitch.

      • sugar baby monkey says:

        i think you spend a lot of time thinking what pathetic stuff you would write here! yes, yes, you have a pathetic answer for everything!

      • Anonymous1 says:

        @sugarbabymonkey If you’re not into someone, don’t try to insult them especially if they said nothing bad/wrong about you. Everyone has their taste/preference and most people have something beautiful about themselves. If she’s not addressing you, and she’s not being rude then ignore her comments. Whatever happens with her sugar daddy is between the both of them. As simple as “let it be”. We have enough b.s on this blog already, no more drama.
        @Dovetail classic answer, says a lot about your character.

  60. Ilovesbs says:

    @Dave Just because your mother’s a whore, a cunt and (an ugly) bitch doesn’t mean all women are. Please stop confusing your mother with every other woman.

    • fundude says:

      I think Dave is just angry that he has to deal with most Western women.

      In Dave’s defense, he is largely accurate about the state of Western women lol

      • Anonymous says:

        Dave is just going through the anger phase after discovering women are not men, not held to the same self-sacrificial/obligation template that men are held to, and no women will ever treat him like his mother treated him (self-sacrificial towards her children).

        He is now acting like a woman (able to change mind on an agreement after the counter party has fulfilled their part, instead of being obliged to perform in return). He is going to be unpleasantly surprised.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        give me one example of this self sacrificial obligation that men are held to.

      • Ilovesbs says:

        Dave is acting as if someone forces him to be with Western women. He could either scam only those sbs who are scammers, or he could stop scamming women in order for him to get a date, maybe he could get himself a man since he hates women so much (he might secretly like that idea). I’m sure he doesn’t even have guys friends. But sadly as long as he’s alive, there’s hope he will deal with his mommy issues. Dave is the definition of the word “bitch”. Dave= bitch

      • Dave says:

        LMAO at all the psycho babble analysis here. A bunch of wanna be Freuds. I have broken it down to the basic elemental feature of relationships. Women use men. I use women for my pleasure. If you are too beta and stupid to pay God knows how much through an allowance or marriage, then you are the sucker.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Dave Pardon me. I know you think I’m harassing you but I’m going to have to bring something else to your attention. There are just so many inconsistencies in your fairy tales and they change so very often.

        Dave says:
        November 24, 2015 at 7:06 pm
        I’m sure my ex-wife and the last girl who I lived with committed to me under duress you lying slag.

        Dave says:
        November 30, 2015 at 10:08 pm

        If you are too beta and stupid to pay God knows how much through an allowance or marriage, then you are the sucker.

        Care to explain? ROTFLMAO You lying loser

      • Anonymous says:

        “give me one example of this self sacrificial obligation that men are held to.”

        The very concept of “Chivalry”

        or “being a gentleman,” as in one who looks after and deferential to his date, not as a “John” demanding return for his money.

      • Dovetail says:

        In which case you’d be referring to a man that has actual value. Rare find.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        “The very concept of “Chivalry””

        I knew that’s what you were going to pick :-)) Those standards of behavior were set by men. Chivalry is a self imposed sacrifice that no longer exist. Didn’t hear feminism did away with it. Try an example that’s a little more current.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Jay

        I already gave a second example above, “being a gentleman”

        Feminists of course still expects Chivalry: “where did the good men go?”

        I have a different explanation why Chivalry disappeared: Chivalry was a moral template for men; however, in order for such moral behavior to be sustainable day in day out instead of just a momentary action (like saving someone from an attacker) there had to be real reward. In medieval times, the reward was in the form of the bride’s dowry. Peasant girls never enjoyed “Chivalry” from their fellow peasant suitors. The high-born girls came with endowment. In the late 19th century and early 20th century, “Chivalry” could be revived in the US because girls typically had better established parents who benefited from the rapid economic growth and could help the young couple. Nowadays, most girls are born of narcissistic baby-boomer parents who ate their own seed corn and that of their offprings. When the parents can’t even afford to put their daughters through college, there is little reward for “chivalry,” therefore it disappeared.

        “Girls rewarding bad boys” has something to do with it too, but that is not really the fault of all girls, but the more promiscuous girls who happen to over-represent themselves in the sexual market place due to the non-promiscuous girls not being as active in the sexual market place. It’s a vicious feedback cycle in a meta-stable system. “Chivalry” and “gentlemanly behavior” are not sustainable moral templates when there is no real reward in terms of what parents can bestow on the young couples. BTW, this is also why disruptive characters like “Dave” needs to be stamped out, lest the system collapses; widespread use of effective verification method needs to be promoted.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        1)Are you the same anonymous I’m chatting with below?

        2)I was being sarcastic about the feminism and chivalry thing. There are many reason that chivalry is dead.

        Part of it is what you mentioned and part of it is because chivalry was used as an enticement to keep women in line once they stopped toeing the line it was withdrawn out of resentment and spite.

        Another bigger reason is with the increase of divorce rates and single parent household, Less and less children are growing up without fathers in the house.

        Chivalry normally passed down and taught to young men by their fathers just like learning to tie your tie or shaving. And women learned how they should be treated by observing how their fathers treated their moms. With the demise of the traditional household a lot of things were lost such as chivalry.

      • Anonymous says:

        All valid points, Jay.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Sorry that should say with fathers in the house not without.

        @anon Thanks

      • Anonymous says:

        Why does he have to deal with them?
        Just go mgtow or stop approaching them altogether.

      • ks says:

        As others have already mentioned the origin of Chivalry was in medieval times, a moral code of the knights whose occupation was war (Crusades, etc). If Chivalry was to be updated for contemporary times it behoves women to also act in such a manner given the level of equal rights today. The alternate is that if chivalry is just for men then some of the other older medieval traditions also need bringing back to ensure equality…witch dunking comes to mind…

      • Jaybird923 says:

        ” The alternate is that if chivalry is just for men then some of the other older medieval traditions also need bringing back to ensure equality…witch dunking comes to mind…”

        Of course because killing innocent women for being witches is equal to a man having to stand up when a enters a room…

      • ks says:

        @Jaybird :-) Which raises the question how do you know they are innocent? Where did you get the frivolous notion that standing when a woman enters the room originates from the Code of Chivalry?
        [http://www.lordsandladies.org/knights-code-of-chivalry.htm]

        I suppose Hollywood and Google have a lot to answer for…

  61. fundude says:

    @Dovetail

    Your arguments about photoshop and unrealistic expectations are pretty accurate. I have shown multiple pictures of “celebrities” before and after photoshop pics that confirm this assessment.

    Plenty of male celebs will have an ridiculously “ripped” look on television/movies only to be mediocre in physique when they are seen on the beach.

    Women aren’t any better in terms of celebrities.

    The difference is that WOMEN appear to be more susceptible to the fantasy of television/movies than men. Most men can tell realistic circumstances from fake ones.

  62. Josh says:

    @Kore13

    “@Josh Are there laws in the U.S. that protect psychological well-being?”

    Absolutely not. If there were then there would be laws preventing women from mind raping men. For example, there would be a law that when the man says, “Please don’t talk to me for X period of time” and the woman continues to eat his ears out, she would go to jail. But there is no such law in the entire universe that gives the “no means no” right to men.

    “I agree with a lot of what you said, but I don’t believe in the risk of actual victims having to ‘suffer’ more because others are taking advantage.”

    I don’t support rape. Please allow me to give an extreme example. If a woman allows 20 men to fuck her and then tells the 21st men “no” it is a NO. If #18 who just fucked her came back for more and she said “no” it is a NO. There’s no doubt in my mind about that…However, if after allowing all those 20 men to fuck her she starts to “feel” remorse and starts reinterpreting the fact that SHE allowed them inside her…that should not be allowed.

    “@Josh Logically, feelings are more mportant than money – otherwise, things such as fraud, etc wouldn’t be seen as a crime.”

    I don’t see much logic in that dear. If someone tells me that he’s going to defraud me of X but does not follow through then no crime was committed.

    • Dovetail says:

      Falls over dead. Josh is actually right this time.

      • Dave says:

        Yeah in the US these whores are allowed to change their mind 20 years after giving it up to every dick out there and cry “Rape!”. I can’t even remember who I fucked last month but for some reason these women have vivid and accurate details of the “rape” that happened 20 years ago. Women have been scamming and mind raping us for thousands of years. Glad to return the favor.

      • Josh says:

        @Dave I recommend that you stop trying to “scam” women and watch 13 radio shows (along with any other material) by Patric O’Neal [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hAmCjqVkFg&list=PLE55F580AB012D5E3&index=1] to learn how to “deal with” Western women.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        There is no us Dave the only woman who’s done you harm is your whore of a mom. They remember the details of something traumatic that happen to them the same way you remember the face of all the men your mom brought home. And you can’t remember who had sex with last month because you didn’t have sex with anyone. Just because you give your right hand a name doesn’t make it a person. SMH

      • Dave says:

        @Josh I know how to deal with Western women. I dealt with 3 of them this month alone. I am already working on dealing with 2 next week. There is only one way to deal with entitled feminist cum dumpsters. I deal with their pussy, their mouth, and occasionally their bunghole.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Dave’s western woman…

        [http://www.fancypantsalley.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/9318.jpg]

      • Anonymous says:

        @Dave You’re telling us exactly what your mother did to your father. Your mother should’ve had an abortion.

    • Josh says:

      @Dovetail

      “Falls over dead. Josh is actually right this time.”

      Because you’re a logical man-lover, and I respect you for that. 😉

      • Dovetail says:

        Man lover…
        Meh.
        When I say I don’t deal in bullshit I mean I don’t deal in bullshit. Period.

        You guys just caught me on an irritable night.

  63. Sugar baby monkey says:

    Sugar baby mokey just wants to know why there are many many ugly male monkeys like Josh and Fundude? It’s the only thing that i want to know actually.

    Cheers,

    Sugar baby monkey

  64. AliceAbroad says:

    Good lord. I’m glad I didn’t read these blog comments pre-sugar search. I probably would have lost faith in chances of connecting with a normal human.

    • Dave says:

      Yeah I checked your profile. You are basically whoring yourself out for some plane tickets to California. Why don’t you take a fucking train? If I was near your shit place I can give you a ride to the nearest train station.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Where would she sit? On the handle bar of your bicycle?

      • TVC15 says:

        bwah ha!

      • Dave says:

        I drive a SUV and it has more than enough room in the back for a pump and dump whore like you Jaybird. I may even cum on your bolt on tits if you like. Which I’m sure you do.

      • Anonymous says:

        LOL! If we had a time machine to drop Dave into 1945 Germany (end of WWII, the whole country in ashes, thanks to allied bombing), instead of enjoying “local hospitality” (“Frauleinwunder”) at the price of a can of tuna, he’d find ways to get himself court-marshalled and shot for raping or attempting to rape the frauleins.

        Perhaps we should give Dave a one-way ticket to Greece, and see him arrested there. See this article on Washington Post:

        {https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/young-greek-women-selling-sex-for-the-price-of-a-sandwich-new-study-shows/2015/11/27/c469695e-94d9-11e5-b5e4-279b4501e8a6_story.html}

        Dave, women are fundamentally survivors. They figure out whatever ways to survive under the given circumstances. Many of us wouldn’t be here today if not for our female ancestors’ ability to contort themselves and compromise themselves under very stressful situations. There is no need to shame women for that “talent” of theirs.

        Men are evolved to fight and die for principles (so women and children are less likely to face unbearable circumstances). Women are not evolved to make that kind of sacrifice or principled stand.

      • TVC15 says:

        One thing I’ll say for you, Dave, you’re a pretty good one-handed typist.

      • Dave says:

        Stupid idiot. The Russian soldiers who invaded Germany at the end of WWII raped millions and millions of German women in retaliation for the occupation of Russia.

      • TVC15 says:

        “Women are not evolved to make that kind of sacrifice or principled stand.”

        I’m at least evolved enough not to boff fatuous twits like you.

      • Anonymous says:

        Dave, you are just like one of those Russian peasants, some of whom dragged around a flushing toilet as trophy after seeing it for the first time in their lives. Many Germans fought them, and some Russian soldiers were also shot by their own military police for committing atrocity against civilians.

        “Frauleinwunder” was a phenomenon in the American occupation zone; similar things happened in liberated Paris earlier, and London earlier still when Americans arrived. A drop of honey can attract more flies than a bucket of vinegar.

      • Anonymous says:

        @TVC15

        Women are evolved for individual survival.

        The word “evolved” did not connote “progressive”/”advanced” but “selected for by nature.”

      • TVC15 says:

        The word “fatuous” did not connote “unreal or illusory”, but “foolish or silly, especially in a smug, self-satisfied way”.

      • Anonymous says:

        @TVC,

        On the contrary, dear, I never introduced the concept “evolved enough” as if it were some kind of superiority vs. inferiority; you did. Each gender is evolved (selected in natural selection) for different functions; neither is superior. It’s silly for people like Dave to apply the “honor templates” for one gender to the other. It would be like rating a cockroach based on how many books it has “read” or judging a human based on how resilient he is to roach poison.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Come now Dave we both know you’re only allowed to drive your mom’s mini van or as you call it SUV to the store and back to pick up her cigarettes and pabst blue ribbon.

        She can’t lend it to you for an extended period of time not all of her clients can come to her sometimes she has to go to the Johns.

      • AliceAbroad says:

        Desiring one thing does not exactly equal that thing being the whole of your expectations. Thanks for the suggestion anyway! I always appreciate feedback on how I can better my life or myself as a person. :) Unfortunately the ride is too long by train. I do love trains though – I’m a rewards member with Amtrak.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        “Men are evolved to fight and die for principles (so women and children are less likely to face unbearable circumstances). Women are not evolved to make that kind of sacrifice or principled stand.”

        Fuck you dude. I’d rather deal with the idiots like Dave and fundude who just own thier stupidity an prejudices than the idiots masquerading as enlighten men

      • fundude says:

        @Anonymous

        LOL I like how you think women have evolved to be whores that just fuck men to get stuff and can never take a “principled” stand.

        Maybe you’re spending too much time on SA or with Western women in general?

      • Anonymous says:

        @Jaybird,

        Being evolved (selected) for self-sacrificial is a curse, not a blessing. e.g. the Russian penal battalions that were sent across enemy mine field, to use their bodies to discover quickly where the land mines were, so the follow-up assault troops could advanced through the zone thus cleared.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Fundude,

        You use a hammer for nails, and a screw driver for driving screws. There is no point yelling at a hammer for its not being able to drive a screw.

        If I need to hire someone to do a dirty or dangerous job for me, I hire a man. If need babies or sexual entertainment, I look for women.

        Of course, I too make mistakes sometimes. For example, both TVC and Jay showed how dangerous it is to have rational discussions with women (their neurons fire together instead of compartmentalized thinking like men do, resulting in bad feelings when undertaking serious discussions). That’s why if you ever want to make the mistake of having rational discussion with women, do it online with women you don’t know personally and have no chance of ever meeting in person.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I am more than capable of having rational and logical discussions. Just because I called you out for your bullshit comment doesn’t mean it was an emotional outburst.

        Unlike the other two idiots you’re a lot better at stringing words together to make them sound like a compliment when in actuality it’s the same sexist crap just wrapped in a prettier package.

        Your mistake was in assuming that we would be to stupid to realize the insult and that you would be exulted and praised for so eloquently coming to the defense of women everywhere.

        When in actuality you just called us unprincipled whores who’d do anything to survive while men are noble creatures with honor who won’t stoop to compromising their morals to survive.

        How many men do you think are sitting at home in Greece waiting for those whores to come home with whatever money they earned for the day while they sat on their asses instead of finding an alternative way to take care of their family?

      • Anonymous says:

        Jay,

        Trust me, no insult at all was intended. If I could choose, I’d rather be born as a pretty/beautiful woman, live happily for a couple decades, and then kill myself or die quickly in an accident around the age of 40, after popping out 2.2 kids in “my” 20’s and seeing them through teen years perhaps even giving a little help raising their kids, and before “my” ever increasing expectations eventually outgrow the reality of even the most competent partner could provide and therefore “me” becoming disappointed in “him.” What’s the saying, why all the good ones die young? It’s a much simpler and much more enjoyable life.

        That fantasy being impossible, I have to make the best of the cards already dealt to me, taking on “the men’s burden”:

        1. be understanding the supportive to women;
        2. be responsible for all the external resource requirement that comes with child rearing;
        3. be smart enough to set parameters of a relationship so that she doesn’t become “disappointed” despite her ever increasing expectations.

        Do all of that over and over again, day in and day out, while making sure she thinks the burdens are trivial to me, so she doesn’t exercise backup plans that she has lined up for her own survival and those of her children (hopefully mine).

        As for the lazy Greek men that you mentioned, they are just committing genetic suicide like men in many sex-tourism destinations of the world. It’s the lot of most “conquered people” in human history. Women kept on reproducing with the conquerors.

        Men are programmed to fight and die for “principles” not because they are more noble; “principles” were invented by men to maximize their own genetic survival, despite the physical destruction of some of them. The male mantis being eaten by the female mantis after delivering his sperm packet is not because he is “noble.” Heck, the very concept of nobility was invented by some families to ensure their reproductive advantages over mere peasants; it broke down only after the outbreak of genetic disease due to inbreeding in the late 19th century.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Dear god what manner of rabbit hole have I manged to land my self in. LMAO no one would believe me if I told them about the characters on this blog and the conversations I have with them.

        I’m going to ignore most of your post and just comment on the last bit and disagree that the biggest deciding factor in the breakdown of the nobility was genetic disease and say that it was purely economics.

        With the industrial revolution in the 19th century the nobility that did not evolve with the changing times were left behind as the economy switched from agriculture to factories and trade.

        With the shift there was a rise in the nouveau riche and drastic decline in the lifestyles of the nobility. They had to marry beneath them to get an influx of cash to save family estates and continue to live the lifestyles they were accustomed too.

        A lot of these new businessmen had the money and not the prestige. So they traded money for social standing and connections. I strongly believe that the inbreeding would have continued if not for the need for money to fill the family coffers.

        It was well known that the children of aristocrats that were produced with their mistresses (who were often of common stock) were more likely to be born healthy and out live the ones that were conceived with their wives but that did nothing to alter their mating habits.

      • Anonymous says:

        As we can plainly see, someone is more interested in deriving validation than staying on the substance of the discussion. At least Jay didn’t go off the road like how Bill Burr described the hazards of debating with women:

        {https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNSt3wJXZk0}

      • Anonymous says:

        @Dave,I’m sorry that your mother attempted to abort you ,but failed. At some point you have to get over it and move on. Are you stuck in some room living in a wheelchair – bitter about women ? Get counselling little fellow.

    • noname says:

      people arn’t that bad we have one fanasty writer on this blog so you can safely ignore comments from that post

    • Anonymous says:

      There simply aren’t any normals on this blog. Otherwise we would all have lives to attend to. Mind you I give you a ride any day – I just probably wouldn’t make it to the coast.

  65. Dovetail says:

    I’m done now.

  66. Dovetail says:

    Why doesn’t he like me?

    Because you aren’t the post production barbie he was promised that doesn’t exist.

    Why doesn’t she like me?

    Because you aren’t the image of the man she was sold on the cover of the romance novels she reads.

    I’m dissapointed I expected that person to be…
    “the fake story you had in your head”

    Tired of the WHINING.

  67. Dovetail says:

    Guess what. All those models you see plastered all over billboards and playboy adds and mag inserts and the million images taken in by your eye on a daily basis of these super women?

    That’s called digitial artistry and photo shop, make up art of 1/4 inch thick animal fat, (Primer, air brushed foundation, then bronzer makes up the base from which the rest of the face is applied). Air brushing also removes scars and other marks, and if applied by a professional also completely smooths out the skin by filling in and evening out texture. The average model spends around 2-3 hours sitting in a chair being completely still while being pulled on, poked, brushed, and otherwise manipulated by 2-4 people at one time, before testing for 5-10 minutes to adjust camera settings from color to hues tints and contrasts in the 5,000.00 minimum camera, after which is the lighting test, which changes her skin tone and blend etc, then shooting, then a minimum generally 2 days of post processing, which inclused graphic art, digital enhancement and photo shop. We sell you a fantasy. Its the very definition of what we do. Model – Meriam Webster – a copy, an image, representation of something (note that this definition is not a thing, but a REPRESENTATION of a thing), an example for imitation or emulation, an organism whose appearance a mimic imitates, a description or analogy used to help visualize something (as an atom) THAT CANNOT BE DIRECTLY OBSERVED.

    A copy of a part of the modeling division contract for Stormrider Media Productions:

    NOTICE: DSM trains models on a very limited basis. I will not train DIVA MODELS! PERIOD! If I throw you into a concept that you agreed to and you tell me no you are DONE! Please review the Webster’s Dictionary description of the word MODEL – model, example, pattern, exemplar, ideal meaning someone or something set before one for guidance or imitation. model applies to something taken or proposed as worthy of imitation . example applies to a person to be imitated or in some contexts on no account to be imitated but to be regarded as a warning . pattern suggests a clear and detailed archetype or prototype . exemplar suggests either a faultless example to be emulated or a perfect typification . ideal implies the best possible exemplification either in reality or in conception .

    Example – Modeling Clay – Which is shaped to fit an idea of the creator’s concept. YOUR JOB AS A MODEL IS NOT TO LOOK OR CREATE AS YOU WANT BUT AS THE CONCEPT DEMANDS!

    • Dovetail says:

      Welcome to the real world, this is the part where I smile sweetly and tell you how much I was paid, like every other model is, to become exactly what I wanted you to see me as, and appear to be exactly as I chose to appear, at my whim. On thing I can promise you, that in in the same day, I can literally change how I appear 10 times or more, and never appear the same twice, with nothing more than generally 45 minutes to an hour between.

      So, for all you SD’s out there who swallowed the bullshit line that my industry considers a mark of pride to be able to influence you to swallow as obtainable, and all you sugar babies out there who look at yourselves and think of every reason my industry has sold you as to why you are NOT and can not compete with us, now the hand tips, with the up the sleeve that media has hidden and played you with.

      • Dovetail says:

        The point is, I see over and over again, fakes and unrealistic expectations, and little boys and girls stamping their feet that they can’t have what tv told them they can. Tv told you you can have it if you buy their shit, to get you to buy their shit, you never could have it and you never will, we as an industry promise you what you want us to tell you to get what we want. Get over it. We lie, you swallow it and now you know, we tricked society into becoming the village idiot.

    • Dovetail says:

      Throws down the gauntlet:

      I bet any one of you that in a minimum of 6 hours, I can make any one of you here become an image of someone you are not, to an extent that if I tell you to look at yourself, then blindfold you and 6 hours later take it off, you will not recognize your own face.

      • Kore13 says:

        @Dovetail

        Where did all this come from?… And what’s all this about not recognizing oneself?

      • Dovetail says:

        It came from these blogs being full of both sides, male and female, having brain washed unrealistic expectations of the partner they will find. Every time I come into the blogs I see posts of “person appeared to be”. Welcome to the real world, where we as humans spend more money and time on creating appearance than we do in the real world.

      • Dave says:

        There is nothing more irritating than whores trying to be philosophical and introspective and shit. Just open your whore legs, let me cum in your axe wound, then get the fuck out of my car.

      • TVC15 says:

        Said Dave, fapping madly.

      • Anonymous says:

        Now I get it…the only women @Dave had been getting pre-SA were streetwalkers…in his car…that’s why he’s fascinated by car sex.

        Now he is on SA and still likes to do it in the car…but by not paying anymore.

  68. Anonymous says:

    Just blocked by a hefferlump for asking for a bikini or boob pic lol

  69. Anonymous says:

    What I’m looking for

    Too many fakes, so I would expect you to confirm who you are as you say you are. Many says they own mega yacht, private jets etc and jet cant confirm there identity and disappear before date.
    She states
    I have met billionaires from this site…

    • Anonymous says:

      WTF!

      • Anonymous says:

        SA is full of 50K/yr “billionaires”. This is probably who she is talking about.

      • Anonymous says:

        Darn! The $30k-“millionaires” are obsolete.

        A Billion is not 10 million, but 1000 million. There are only about 2000 real billionaires in the world of nearly 7,000,000,000 people, almost all of them have more women throwing themselves at them in real life than they can possibly handle, and almost all of them are near retirement age or over. I’d be very surprised if even a single billionaire under the age of 60 is even on SA.

        Who wants to write a profile and pretend to be the world’s first Trillionaire?

      • Dave says:

        This is why I have been quite successful in scamming these greedy whores. They will believe anything you put in your profile. I drop a wad of fake bills in their purse before I pump and dump them. They don’t even check that the money has a picture of Michael Jackson in them LOL!

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Give it up loser. The jig is up. Time to create your 3rd persona. this one is done for.

      • ks says:

        There are actually two scales for billion, short scale and long scale. Use of the long and short scale varies from country to country. Talking about 1 Billion USD in the US can be different than talking about 1 Billion USD in the UK, then you have the French and Germans with milliard… just google it…

  70. Josh says:

    @Kore13

    “@Fundude But there’s just no comparison for losing some disposable income and having the feeling that your body has been violated.”

    Being physically “violated” is repeatedly brought up by women as a can’t-touch-this “truth”, which cannot be questioned.

    However, EVERY false rape accusation boils down to woman “feels” violated elsewhere (most common of which is that the man did not fulfill her nonsexual wishes) but she attempts to convince the judge that she was “violated” in one of her holes.

    WHY? Because some women have no shame and they can go to whatever extent to make someone’s life miserable by bringing state’s force to bear.

    Note: The opposite is true in some cultures where men can accuse women of commiting fornication/adultery and to get them into serious trouble.

    However, we are talking about the West, where women have uber license to be nuisance just because they currently can.

    • fundude says:

      Correct, there appears to be this broadening of the true definition of rape leading to a RAPE ACCUSATION CRISIS.

      Women often cry rape after being a “pump and dump” for an alpha who doesn’t want to commit or some guy who didn’t “give them enough money or other goods” for sex.

      None of these constitute rape. This is why feminism will die off when a patriarchal system takes over.

    • Josh says:

      This is where I have problem with @Dave’s approach, whether his stories are true or not.

      What works beautifully is if you get into questionable territory with women you negotiate/bribe a way out instead of inciting her to take her virtual, expectational violation into one of her holes as a physical violation.

    • Anonymous says:

      Still cannot compare it to the East and how they treat women. The West is just the reaction and opposite to them.

      If FD says, Dave is just the opposite of rinser SB’s shouldn’t that be alright in the context of the west/east? Plus, the east is far far worse to women than the west is to men.

      If Dave feels he was rejected and made to feel inferior to women and by them all his young adult life, shouldn’t women hold him accountable for the middle ages, the 50’s, mysogyny and patriarchy, same as him by taking it out on innocent people who had nothing to do with that, but men will be men and women will be women?

    • Kore13 says:

      @Josh Are there laws in the U.S. that protect psychological well-being? I agree with a lot of what you said, but I don’t believe in the risk of actual victims having to ‘suffer’ more because others are taking advantage.

      @Josh Logically, feelings are more mportant than money – otherwise, things such as fraud, etc wouldn’t be seen as a crime.

  71. Anonymous says:

    Don’t you gate getting a crush, it being excited about a potential SB to then discover her profile pics are fake especially after sharing private photos. Do they think we won’t notice the profile pic is a 8/9 and the private pic is a 4/5. This just happened so Google images shows I was interested in a minor celebrity/model.

  72. Josh says:

    ‘Tis way past due time for a new blog page. 😉

  73. Josh says:

    @Dave

    The devil is in the details. 😉

  74. fundude says:

    Ok back to work

    Good video for you all:

    {{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWwrXj7ndHo}}

  75. TVC15 says:

    Scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll.

    Pause.

    Sigh…

    Scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll, scroll…

  76. Josh says:

    Printing fake money for fun and games may be fine. But if @Dave is actually “transacting” with it when the other person believes that it’s real money AND worse he’s telling others to do the same.

    His educational background keeps changing.

    His friend’s medical background keeps changing.

    The “methodology” to assess his “friend’s” income is shot.

    @Dave is figment of someone’s fairly fluid imagination. The writer behind the persona could be a man or a woman.

    • Kore13 says:

      Deranged in any case.

      I have to admit, it’s simply weird that the topic has changed focus from his ‘methods’ to arguing how much his doctor friend makes. Some MDs in the US could make the amount he claimed, but that doesn’t change the fact that Dave’s simply an asshole willing to lie to get his way. That makes him lose credit to me. Anything after his initial posts makes me wary of all his other claims.

      • Horndog says:

        I called Dave on the counterfeit money but his response was it was “allowed by the federal reserve”. He was not using it to play a Monopoly board game. He was actually passing it off as real money. That is the definition of counterfeiting and it is a federal crime. Remember Al Capone was not jailed for murder but for tax evasion. Dave may get away with borderline rape but now he is fucking around with money. Only the US government is allowed to print worthless currency.

    • elaine says:

      @Josh

      Whatever the case, it is someone with mental issues and a deep hate towards women.

      Very unlikely to be a woman…..this is just not the way a woman writes, even if “she” is pretending to be a man.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      “@Dave is figment of someone’s fairly fluid imagination. The writer behind the persona could be a man or a woman.”

      Bingo! been saying that from the beginning. But he’s not a woman. The mommy issues are very real. He’s most likely some post pubescent twit in his late teens to early 20’s.

      • Anonymous says:

        I think Dave is 20ish — he gave us a clue when he accused an SB here of being older than his mom. I am guessing he is rejected by women, and it is a revenge fantasy of his to trick-coerce women into having sex with him. He is very messed up.

        Dave — we hope you can get some access to therapy and-or medication.

  77. Jaybird923 says:

    Thanks to Tweeddle Dee and Tweeddle Dum this page takes forever to load. We are definitely in need of a new blog

  78. fundude says:

    @Dave

    The salary figures you gave for your doctor buddy doesn’t fully add up.

    Ever consider making a TUMBLR website for males who scam SBs? Might be helpful for men who want to be the opposite of SB rinsers.

    • Anonymous says:

      As I suspected, the male scamsters are just as financially ignorant as their female victims. Utter losers indeed.

      Ladies, if the guy is rushing you into sex, demand to see his driver’s license, and check the name and address against town/city online land records for ownership of the specific property at the address. The driver’side license also give you his real name and real address on record. Some large properties sitting on a lot of land may have frontage on more than one street may have multiple addresses and he may have given you the back door address even if you have seen his house, and some SD and SB give out their nicknames intially. The driver’s license name and address cut to the chase quickly.

      • Kore13 says:

        “Ladies, if the guy is rushing you into sex..”

        Or just NEXT him. If he’s rushing you into sex – he doesn’t have the self control for good behaviour.

      • Another anonymous says:

        @ Anonymous

        You did not mention the other part of the deal for the POT SB. She should be ready to show her ID and she should not rush into allowance. :-)

      • Horndog says:

        Nobody should be rushing into anything. It takes a while to develop a successful SB/SD arrangement/relationship. If both wanted sex and money right away, then they probably should meet through BackPage and not SA. One and done.

      • Anonymous says:

        What I put behind “if” was a polite paraphrasing of common women-speak for plausible denial. “He rushed me into it” is probably how every woman will eventually recall decades later for almost every man she has ever had. Women are demure, retroactively. My ex-wife is already “recalling” us doing it on the 4th date (and jokingly pushing for “or the 5th”) whereas the reality was the 2nd, and she initiated it (one of the reasons why I married her!). Yes, we get along very well, and exchange notes on post-divorce dating life when prepping after-Thanksgiving dinner together for the “ex-family.” You can fill the whole weekend with family dinners after marrying 4 times (each with children) and divorcing 3; that’s why they place Thanksgiving on a Thursday.

        Seeking sugar solution to imminent problems or preferring not having to endure endless dates before arrangement is not at all the same as BackPages. Exchanging sex for resources is the very foundation of almost every man-woman pair-bonding relationship, including marriage. What makes prostitution is a woman simultaneously juggling multiple males in the sex-resources exchange; because each man’s commitment to her is very little, she has to juggle multiple, and that in turn makes her sex worth less. It’s a marketing problem, hence the social stigma.

        Sugaring not having pimps/drivers/enforcers, the young and inexperienced participant does face certain risks, such as that Dave character. Thorough vetting of the potential SD (POT) is highly recommended. I’d recommend the beginners carding him and verifying his assets, both can be easily done nowadays. Towns and cities put land records online precisely so that businesses and credit institutions can verify easily when they have to decide whether to accept someone as a counter-party. Take advantage of it to protect yourself when starting out. After gaining more experience, you will be able to spot the scammers, and hopefully with the help of the more substantial SD’s early on, you won’t need to rush into any arrangement, like Dave’s victims.

      • TVC15 says:

        “What I put behind “if” was a polite paraphrasing of common women-speak for plausible denial. “He rushed me into it” is probably how every woman will eventually recall decades later for almost every man she has ever had. Women are demure, retroactively.”

        Lying sluts

      • Anonymous says:

        “Lying sluts”

        LOL, not at all. Most women are not sluts. OTOH, women often have an emotional need to believe or convince others that they are even more “perfect angel” than they actually are. Men tend to be more willing to accept that we are just men, not saints.

      • Kore13 says:

        @Anon No one wants to believe that they are the bad guy. Ask Dave. He thinks that what he’s doing is justified and therefore, he is the good guy.

      • Josh says:

        Knowing how women feel about “nice guys” men don’t have much incentive to try to act nicer than they actually are.

        “Women are demure, retroactively.”

        This is a key concept and repeats itself again and again in variety of circumstances including false rape accusations.

    • Dave says:

      In what regards ? The average patient is billed $3000 . Some are $1000 some are $300 depending on if the person needs surgery or not . He is frugal with his money . He pays off everything he buys including his house . He owns the note to his home no mortgage . He does vein surgery , vericose vein treatments and heart attack patients

      • Dave says:

        For a heart attack patient he bills $10000 not including the anesthesiologist and the hospital costs which are separate .

      • fundude says:

        What kind of surgeon is your friend?

      • ks says:

        My guess is probably an imaginary one…

      • Jaybird923 says:

        What type of surgeon….
        [https://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lr2yntaqPI1qfcdjio1_500.jpg]

      • Jaybird923 says:

        “He averages 5 emergency room patients per week at a cost of around $3000 per patient . That’s $15k per week gross. $15k X 52 weeks is about 800k”

        @Dave from an ER doctor to a vascular surgeon (vein doctor) all in the span of a couple hours ROTFLMAO

      • Anonymous says:

        got news for you douche bag -medical billing does not work that way. Doc gets a fee determined by the Insurance company ,which is not at all connected with his charges. And it amounts to hundreds,not thousands of $. The only way a cash only MD can make any $ is volume.(such as Plastics ) . Most of the billing charge is facility related,not providers.

      • Horndog says:

        A vascular surgeon does not make the bulk of his income from ER patients. Most of it is derived through elective surgery from patients he sees at his clinic. A small percentage of emergency trauma patients come through the Er. Estimating his income of 800K from ER admissions is totally inaccurate. If he derived his income from ER patients only, he would be making about 150K.

      • fundude says:

        Also, vascular surgeons don’t treat heart attack patients through the ER.

        Dave’s knowledge on this subject is problematic.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Sure that’s the only thing that’s problematic with Dave

    • Anonymous says:

      @FunDude

      Ever considered making a Tumblr page to teach how to commit Medicare/Medicaid fraud?

    • elaine says:

      There is already such thing dumbo.

      • elaine says:

        Uhmmm, this was the response to our resident @FunDumbo, who asked for a Tumblr page for scam SD’s

      • fundude says:

        Oh really?

        Fortunately, i don’t have to scam anyone.

        Just don’t like the hypocrisy of women who call out guys like Dave while accepting the other types SBs who are rinsers.

        Elaine, you claim to not support rinsers, so then you get a pass on this subject

      • Kore13 says:

        @Fundude But there’s just no comparison for losing some disposable income and having the feeling that your body has been violated.

      • elaine says:

        @FunDumbo

        Why don’t you tell us where exactly all those “rinsers” and have been posting on this blog?
        And where exactly were they “accepted” ?

        Gosh…Sorry to ask, but I must have missed all those posts….

        :-)

      • fundude says:

        @Kore

        I disagree that feelings are more important than money.

      • elaine says:

        @Fundumbo

        “I disagree that feelings are more important than money.”

        You need empathy for that to understand my dear “doctor”, and that is exactly what you’re lacking.

        That’s also what makes it very unlikeable you’re a real md. And in the unfortunate case you really happen to be, you will make a very miserable one.

        Because someone who talks about people the way you do and completely lacks empathy for his patients who could happen to be “whores”, “cunts”, “old” or “fat”, should never be allowed to be a doctor.

  79. elaine says:

    Wonder what patients and colleagues would think of a “doctor” calling women “whores”, “sluts”, “cunts” and hating “old”, “fat” and “unattractive” people….

    How dumb must one in such position be, to leave these kind of texts on the net, where it will remain public forever?

    • Anonymous says:

      He would be unemployed. Such ignorant, narrow minded rants about all kinds of people besides men like him are unseen.

    • Kore13 says:

      Dave is just out here for revenge. If everything he claims about his profession, money, age and being fit is true, he could easily score with women who don’t ask for an allowance. (Provided he’s not fugly.)

      Instead, he’s on SA..

    • fundude says:

      Wonder what an employer would think about a woman who prostitutes herself out on a sugar website?

  80. Dave's Friend says:

    Dave is HIV+

  81. yougottabekiddingme says:

    What Dave says:

    “In the old days pimps serve a
    purpose . They ensured their hoes were paid via force if a “John” refused to pay up for services rendered . SA hoes do not utilize pimps. If one were not to go to the bathroom after I cum in them, then I wait it out because they don’t demand their payment immediately.
    Sometimes I ask for a water or say I have to go
    to my car or even are you hungry ?. I find a
    way to leave. Secondly I’m physically stronger than the girls and 9 times out of 10 any guy who happens to be there , boyfriend of a roommate , etc . I lift weights a lot so very few Xbox playing lazy johnnys out there can out muscle me if the need arises.”

    What Dave means:

    [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqphKlMv92A]

  82. Dave says:

    @ fun dude . modern day female acting right (SA or not ) is like finding Noah’s Ark . You one its not going to happen . NAWALT … Is totally delusional . This jaybird and company would have us think there are innocent snowflakes on SA .

  83. fundude says:

    So far, Dave hasn’t done anything illegal from his recent posts.

    Dave= male rinser game

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Now I’m starting to think you’re jealous of Dave. He’s stealing all your thunder. You’re no longer the most outrageous poster so you’re riding his dick .. Sorry, I mean coattails so you’ll get some attention too.

      • Catcher 22 says:

        @Jay. You are wasting your valuable time feeding the trollest troll of the blog and encouraging him to continue with his nonsensical BS. I humbly suggest you put a mental block on his posts and ignore them altogether.

    • Dave says:

      Yup and they don’t like the taste of their own medicine !

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Who doesn’t like the taste of their own medicine you idiot? If you were suggesting rinsing the known rinsers on SA I’d say what goes around come around.

        But what you’re advocating in your little fantasies is mistreating women who have done nothing wrong or dishonest and who probably have no intention in doing anything dishonest. How is that giving them a taste of their own medicine you vacuous twit?

    • Kore13 says:

      @fundude He said himself that he picked up girls that were 17. The bragging about scamming is pretty much the same thing the tumblr girls are doing.. If there’s so much hate for them, what difference does it make that he’s the SD/doing the same thing?

      • fundude says:

        There doesn’t appear to be much hate for TUMBLR girls from SBs on here.

      • Kore13 says:

        Now you

      • elaine says:

        @Fundiot

        No because we only think those girls are laughable and not even worth our “hate”.

        “Hating” people is a very unhealthy mindset, especially when it is people (or worse) an entire group you don’t even know.

        Sorry, I know this makes you look stupid again. :-)

      • Kore13 says:

        *Now you’re being pretentious. Everytime a princess posts here, looking for someone generous, Jay or I tell her off. The rest of the SBs aren’t active enough on the blog.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        True story, FunDude. And this has been echoed by Elaine and me as well. I think it’s safe to retire that part of your argument. If your issue is with the IG and Twttr rinsers, why not bless them with your opinion over there? Is it possible to agree that the female bloggers here do not condone the rinser attitude? Four regular female bloggers have stated that they do not condone rinsing, and I find that consistent with and reflected in their posts. Miss Lady is another who speaks out against it when she’s around. It’s ok, FunDude, to give up this one point. You’ve plenty others to keep your ship asail, no? Really wanna demonstrate what an alpha stud you are? Know when to fold ’em. Blow you thrice.

  84. Josh says:

    @Dave’s stories and reasons for what “he” does what “he” does keep changing.

    As one other blogger suspected earlier, we cannot rule out the possibility that @Dave may just be an activist woman blogging as a man to “warn” other women.

  85. Horndog says:

    Dave are you not worried about carrying counterfeit money around when you try to scam these women? Not only are you flirting with a potential rape charge but counterfeiting as well. The Secret Service handles counterfeit crimes. I hope you know a good lawyer. You might need one someday.

    • Dave says:

      The federal reserve allows printing of money as long as it is not identically replicated in size , or script and clearly labeled as a fake or imitation

      • Anonymous says:

        IDIOT, printing out fake money will land you to prison. Those women will go around using those and when they ask where they got it, they will point at you. Loser

      • Anonymous says:

        You broke the counterfeit law when you passed them off as if they were legit money.

  86. Dave says:

    Wise words from my doctor friend who makes $800k per year . The going rate for a high end escort is $500 per hour, that’s the highest. Why pay the SA membership costs , take the time to fill out a profile , go on dates , not be guaranteed sex , and pay anything over practical? Mind you Doctor friend has been divorce raped by crazy modern day female . He works 80 hours per week on call at the emergency room . One girl got mad at him for cancelling a date at he last minute . He texted her back :” car accidents don’t happen Monday thru Friday only” women want this doctor and his money but not the price that he pays to earn the $800k . Again they speak with a forked tongue

    • Anonymous says:

      Should your doctor friend then get passed at the next girl because the last one got mad at him for that?

      Should he skipped out on paying the next legal prostitute because his last date got mad at him for his hospital on-obligations?

      Should your boss fire you because the previous employee stole from him?

      Part of adult life is picking and choosing the better quality people that we choose to deal with. If you have ever been an employer or a landlord you’do have learned that pinching pennies doesn’t pay in the long run: then you’d have to deal with unreliable people all the time.

      While we all look for best bang for the buck in all things we buy, sometimes paying up for quality is well worth it: in order to encourage repeat of good service.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Let’s pretend that you actually have a friend that’s a doctor. How is it that you know exactly how much money he makes annually? Not really something most people willingly disclose to friends and we know you’re not an accountant. Also if you don’t mind could you explain in what context did this conversation come up?

      • Dave says:

        In my state everyone has online access to home appraisals for taxation purposes and secondly he tells me what he bills per emergency room patients and how many he has per week. His home is valued at $650k for taxation purposes meaning the market value is at least 10 to 15 % more . Therefore he makes at least 800k . However surgeons pay malpractice insurance up to 25% of their wages so he probably makes about $600k in reality . In actuality a man is on the top 10% of wage earners if he earns over 100k , top 2 % of he makes over $150k .
        Now bugger off… You are stalking me and I should report you to SA for harassment .

      • Josh says:

        I would love to see SA’s response when you report her “harassment”. 😉

      • Jaybird923 says:

        That did not answer the questions. Home appraisal $650K = $800k in income. LOL Nice try though.

        Go ahead and tell SA I’m harassing you I would actually welcome that then I can show them what type of mentally unhinged individual is posting on their site.

      • Dave says:

        He averages 5 emergency room patients per week at a cost of around $3000 per patient . That’s $15k per week gross. $15k X 52 weeks is about 800k you dumb hooker . Can you only do math when you get paid by a John ? Or were you screwing Xbox Johnny during math class ?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        ROFLMAO Nice try Dave. That’s not what you said. Your story is constantly changing. Copy and paste from your original message where you listed your imaginary doctor friends per a patient charge and how many patients he see a week. You still haven’t explain in what context did the conversation about SA and escorts happen:-)

      • Kore13 says:

        “His home is valued at $650k for taxation purposes meaning the market value is at least 10 to 15 % more . Therefore he makes at least 800k .”

        😀 I’m surprised you can even use a calculator.

    • Not SO Gentle says:

      @Dave
      This whole Doctor friend story is falling apart and the Gig is up . You are probably a teen twerp spinning a fantasy tale . Get the f*ck out of here !

      What’s going to happen to you some day – IF- what you say you are doing is true -IS ,one of these not so hinged SBs will get your license plate, get her bad ass brother involved, track your sorry ass down ,and take care of business. Bu-Bye

    • Kore13 says:

      You guys are losing sight of what’s important.

  87. Dave says:

    …. Got a message from a 22 year old single mom today . she also claims she’s a “model” . She says she wants a successful guy to be with and she’s tired of “boys” .
    Her expectation is ” moderate” LOL. .. Actually LMAO .. Here’s the problem . Every young single mom has pro created with a fucking loser plain and simple or they wouldn’t be a single mom so early . Now her expectation is moderate . Herein lies he problem . You as an honest SD would have to not only contend with the kid being around and scheduling your dates around that, as if women were not flakey enough, then you have to deal with bad boy Billy the ex who may or may not be able to watch the kid because he violated his parole last month and has to go to court . Mind you this change in schedule always happens when you planned out your day bought a nice jacket , got a haircut , and went to the ATM in anticipation of your date with said fucked up single mom. Now I ask you josh or any of the other manginas on here . Which on of the SB posters on here has explained that these things will happen ? The only thing the SBs on here do is ridicule us and and yet at the same time they seek men like us for their purposes . They speak with a forked
    Tongue

    • Anonymous says:

      Unless she has her shit together as in having a job, and has a family member as a babysitter, single mom is a VERY bad demographic to arrange with. Their expenses are two high and their time availability for SDs is too low.

      • Dave says:

        Single moms are 10 times more delusional Than your average modern day female . She is hot , will be a fun one to con

      • fundude says:

        Avoidance of single moms is a good method.

        I appreciate that perspective.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Dave Logic: Women were mean to me and wouldn’t let me bone them. So now to get even with them for how they treated me, I’m going to mistreat other women who have done nothing to me instead of the actual women who rejected me. That’ll show them Dave ROTFLMAO

        Have you tried talking to your mom or a therapist about how deeply her promiscuity affected you?

      • Anonymous says:

        I see fundude remains supportive to our crook online persona dave.

    • Anonymous says:

      The honest SD doesn’t have to do anything with such a woman who has wasted her reproductive power on a loser. Except that which she and her devil spawn can claw out of your wallet via viting and taxation. So, Dave, why would you want add more women to her side?

      By your own collective punishment logic, shouldn’t she be taking out on you the man for what Billy the ex did? Doesn’t seem to be justified at all, regardless whether she is doing it or you are.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      No one seeks you Dave quit with the fairy tales. You aren’t a SD. You never went on any meets with women who flaked on you. You never had any arrangements with single moms or anyone else.

      Stop making up stories. In your earlier posts you said your only purpose in joining was to get back at women for not wanting you when you were younger and a nice guy. Now you’re buying new jackets, getting haircuts, and going to the ATM to meet single moms who are flakey SMH

    • FatB'StardSA says:

      @Dave

      “Every young single mom has pro created with a fucking loser”

      This is obviously not true.

      Many guys pursue careers with high social prestige (musicians for example) and poor earning potential.

      Many guys have high social standing (and wealth) due to illegal activities.

      Both groups get women VERY easily and have no incentive to stick around in case a baby is in the works and I don’t think either group would be considered “losers” (I doubt you would do better than them in their chosen “professions”).

      That said, I would stay away from a single mom SB as well.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Are you guys intentionally misreading what the idiot posts? He’s not advocating staying away from them he’s saying he intends to con them and that they deserve for being young single mothers.

        I’m not worried that he’ll actually do it since this is all another one of his elaborate stories but other idiots read it an actually think he’s for real like the one asking for advice the other day.

      • Dave says:

        A guy who doesn’t stick around to raise a child is a loser plain and simple . Single moms are to be avoided by the honest SD . I’ll con her and get what I need here in another week when I’m absolutely horny .

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Dave

        “A guy who doesn’t stick around to raise a child is a loser plain and simple”

        I assume you think the father is a loser because he has broken some sort of promise to the young single mom that he will stick around and help with the baby. If breaking a promise to a woman makes a man a loser then you are a loser for conning this single mom out of an allowance.

        Have a nice day :-).

      • Dave says:

        A single mom deserves a good con job . A kid who didn’t ask to be born does not deserve to be tossed aside . A huge difference . SA moms have loser mating regret and I am sure turned down many a nice guy . She deserves her fate . A huge distinction between bringing in a baby into this world and fucking over a screwed up modern day female over money

      • Anonymous says:

        Good catch, Fatty. The Dave scourge is even worse than than just breaking his promises. He is on record claiming to have unprotected sex with victims of his contact jobs. For all we know, some of his past victims could be pregnant! He was literally calling himself a loser: man who doesn’t stick around to help raising the baby.

      • Anonymous says:

        Con* jobs

      • Tor says:

        Some single mothers lost their husbands in Iraq, Afghanistan, September 11, Oklahoma City bombing or when some idiot shoots up a abortion clinic or a cinema or a school. Maybe they were killed in Paris just a couple of weeks ago.
        You are worse then awful, you enjoy being rude and insulting. Strangle any puppies lately?

    • Anonymous says:

      Me thinks Davie Wavy has some form of PTSD from getting his ass kicked by girls during his childhood.

  88. Dave says:

    @ josh

    I see you’ve succumbed to the female “logic” displayed on this forum . So be it. When you get the short end of the stick from these so called women one day , you’ll definitely understand why I do what I do. About your
    question . In the old days pimps serve a
    purpose . They ensured their hoes were paid via force if a “John” refused to pay up for services rendered . SA hoes do not utilize pimps. If one were not to go to the bathroom after I cum in them, then I wait it out because they don’t demand their payment immediately.
    Sometimes I ask for a water or say I have to go
    to my car or even are you hungry ?. I find a
    way to leave. Secondly I’m physically stronger than the girls and 9 times out of 10 any guy who happens to be there , boyfriend of a roommate , etc . I lift weights a lot so very few Xbox playing lazy johnnys out there can out muscle me if the need arises . Remember I also have the fake money I print out with resume paper as backup emergency funds . At night it’s hard to tell they are fakes but I’ve covered my bases by hanging the president or the text so I can’t be convicted of forgery . I’ve read the laws . Lastly please do not listen to these idiot females on here hey are trying to play mind games because they don’t like it that guys like me have the upper hand . I’ve never driven to remote locations or forced myself on them . Most of them have approached me on SA first and have obviously been attracted to me or else they wouldn’t have stepped into the car in the first place 50% of the time on the first date and the other 50% on the second date. I had one who demanded $900 !! She was hot but not that hot . So she had the audacity to demand $900 and she said she also wanted dinner . She got dinner and then I fucked her over . She deserved every bit of it .

    • Josh says:

      “Remember I also have the fake money I print out with resume paper as backup emergency funds . At night it’s hard to tell they are fakes but I’ve covered my bases by hanging the president or the text so I can’t be convicted of forgery . I’ve read the laws .”

      Interesting…you are telling “supposedly” rich people who claim to be willing to pay certain amount of money to SBs for arrangements…to print funny money?

      What demographics are you addressing?

      “I see you’ve succumbed to the female “logic” displayed on this forum . ”

      @Dave, my friend, I am the one who actually introduced the idea (on this particular blog) that there is something called ‘female “logic”‘. Not many people talked about ‘female “logic”‘ before I started talking about it as frequently as I did.

      You know WHY? Because some women used to post comments in seemingly neutral sentences to try to pass their ‘female “logic”‘ on to the blog as if it is kinda sorta like real logic. So I used to call them out on that.

      Most of the female blogger population don’t like me and they are more than welcome to continue to do so. I am not bothered by that.

      However, I am bothered by your comments because you are acting as the poster child of con-artists some of these bitches talk about.

      • Dave says:

        I fully admit I con them . You know as well as I do most deserve heir fate and have done the same to men like us . I’m not insulting you . I’ve been the nice guy for far to long myself , the nice guy who tried to make women happy . I’ve been here too .

      • Josh says:

        @Dave

        You have fully admitted many times that you con them. There’s no ambiguity there. What I prefer you don’t do is to talk about your con jobs. Women and men are conning each other from eons, and will continue to do so. However, conning women is NOT the raison d’être of SA. So I would appreciate that you’d take your con elsewhere…please.

        Why do I ask that? It is simple economics…if more men con women with impunity here…many women will bail and the price for the rest of us SD would go up…

      • Dave says:

        Not true josh. The going price for escorts is dependent on supply and demand . Escorts will always be your second option .

    • Anonymous says:

      I’ve read the laws.

      HHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA PAYPIG

  89. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Dave was inevitable. He is a reaction to the magina, rinser focus that SA has had since I started posting here.

  90. Jaybird923 says:

    There once was a young 35 year old Doctor with an over inflated ego who heard about a site called Seeking Arrangement and thought to himself “Those men are stupid I can get those women with out shelling out a dime in allowances” So he decided to join thinking the SBs will be jumping at the chance to drop their panties for free for such an “alpha stud” only to discover that is not the case.

    That they require more than an entree at the local Applebee’s. And that they could care less about how young and “alpha” he is they still want an allowance. Since he is really an insecure man child the only way his fragile ego can cope is to concoct a story about how he was here for fun. And how the site is full of fat, old, feminist that he didn’t want any ways.

    He’s also made it his mission in life to spend all his free time on a sugar website denigrating SBs/SDs, even though he supposedly has a hot 23 year old blonde girlfriend and is back in school to get a MBA and work at his medical practice. The End :-)

    • fundude says:

      lol you should’ve been a psychologist.

      Can’t believe you figured it out! Fuck, after all, I tried very hard to get laid off this site and remained active for many years trying but couldn’t! What a failure.

      Unfortunately, now I spend my time studying for my MBA and writing on this blog (actually true for tonight lol)

      • Anonymous says:

        No, you spend your time whining on this blog, to people who don’t wanna hear your feminism rants and actually come looking to discuss sugar topics.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        1)I mentioned no names I just told a little story for my fellow bloggers enjoyment though the main character is based on a real person. :-)

        2)My character would never spend many years on SA I’m guessing he only gave it a try for a month. Any more than that and he wouldn’t be able to pretend it was all for a lark.

        3)I see you didn’t mention the hot blonde just the MBA… if she’s still around things haven’t been the same since Mexico.

        4)I have offered you pro-bono therapy many times and you’ve yet to take me up on it. My offer still stands xoxo

      • Anonymous says:

        Why would you intentionally put whatever FunDude wrote about himself over the months and then write #1 above?

    • fundude says:

      lol she’s still around.

      I am happy with her. Why would I “subscribe” to this place when I got a gf? Don’t want to bang women on the side.

      I am still getting plenty of messages. I’m sure I could get a SB for minimal allowance if attempted.

      But I enjoyed your story, it was entertaining lol

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I never suggested you subscribe to this place. I’m not into the putang but if I had a hot blonde girlfriend at my disposal, I’d be balls deep in pussy every free moment I had in between studying and working instead of being on this blog and surfing the web for crazy articles and videos. But hey, that’s just me. :-))

      • Bill says:

        “She’s around”.. either the girlfriend is his Fleshlight or she’s tied up in his basement.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Jay

        If you were as good at profiling people from message posts as you would like us to believe you would be working for the FBI or the CIA instead of posting on the SA blog.

        Just wanted to point that out…

        Have a nice day :-).

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Bill

        You should create a SB account seeing as you are a mangina!

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @FatB’stard lol I am really good at it. I pegged you as a retard from the very beginning didn’t I? :-) Besides I wouldn’t do well in law enforcement too many rules and regulations. Have a nice night FB xoxo

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Jay

        “I pegged you as a retard from the very beginning didn’t I?”

        It takes one to know one…thank for the opportunity to use that one.

        Have a nice day :-).

      • Jaybird923 says:

        LMAO Touche… a bit juvenile but very effective :-))

  91. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Anonymous

    As to local hotties, agree.

    Actually any guy in early 30s who claims to be an SD millionaire is VERY suspicious. Why is he not using his extremely high desirability irl?

  92. Anonymous says:

    “A happy man is a happy relationship. A happy woman is a miserable man.” Patrice O’Neal

    35:37 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYCFjyDOKF0]

  93. Josh says:

    Re: Scamming women

    If you know for sure that certain woman is a con-artist OR get the vibes that she is trying to scam you…and then you turn around and scam her…c’est la vie.

    But there are a lot of women on the site who are in certain type of jam in their lives and are open to getting an arrangement going for a reasonable allowance. Scamming them would be detrimental to the value proposition of this site.

  94. Another anonymous says:

    @ Anonymous

    As to the “not starting pay especially starting pay in low cost of living area.”

    Actually due to the so called quality of life considerations, starting pay and cost of living are frequently NEGATIVELY correlated.

    • Anonymous says:

      New doctors in the god forsaken middle of nowhere is not going to be looking for SB’s online. He is either flocked by local hotties (nurses?) in the area or flying himself to Canada for legal prostitutes every few weeks. SB’s are rare in rural areas.

      Most high paying specialties have the highest paid positions in big cities on the coasts, for old experienced doctors in the specialties, not for newbies. According to BLS, entire segment of anaesthesiologists were paid only about $125k a year despite the average for all doctors of all experience in the specialty being $232k. It’s safe to assume that the newbies are paid less than the older and more experienced ones.

      • fundude says:

        BLS numbers are way off if you think anesthesiologists only made 123K a year lol

        When was this, the 1980s?

        MGMA data is the most accurate or Medscape data determining physician salaries.

      • Anonymous says:

        Read the link I provided ealrier. BLS data showed the average for all anarsthesiologists was around $232k, but those working in academic setting only made just over $60 an hour, translating to an annual salary of just over $123k. They have better hours and long vacations.

      • fundude says:

        Im not going to argue this anymore.

        I’ve never met any full time academic anesthesiologist that only made 123K. Your argument are way off.

      • Anonymous says:

        What’s way off was your $400k/yr number for physicians fresh out of residency. Even at $400k/yr pretax income, the person would have a hard time saving up $1M in 3 to 7 years before he turns 35.

        Not a single doctor or dentist that I know of followed your script of saving up $1M while renting. Every single one of them bought homes to in order to take advantage of tax savings, then bought more real estate as secondary income just in case they are incapacitated from their hands on jobs.

  95. Another anonymous says:

    @ Elaine

    As to your argument # 2 – given the description of your position in life, would you ever consider dating OUTSIDE sugar? And if not, can you give the reasons?

    • elaine says:

      @An. Anon.

      Yes sure, I would consider that if the right person came along.

      The problem is that I get bored quite easily, and I am not sure if I could/would be monogamous with one lover.
      I am used to a certain level and lifestyle not a lot of men can offer.
      Furthermore I am not in the right position actually to invest the time and dedication a “normal” relationship requires.

      So at this point in life being a mistress suits me best.

  96. elaine says:

    @Fundumb

    “if those allegations are actually TRUE and not some bullshit SB smear campaign against him”

    Just when I think his comments CAN’T get any dumber…..They DO!

    READING dear, just reading before you comment.
    It is all there, all written and posted by your hero.

  97. Josh says:

    @fundude

    “When a guy outsmarts a woman by obtaining sex without money= Guy is a scumbag who “emotionally” abused the woman and should’ve taken he high road.”

    The point is not that the man cannot/should not outsmart woman. The point is HOW he is suggesting men to outsmart women.

    ALL women cost money but the reality is that women are super suckers for emotional currency…THAT is the exclusive currency many men use to get what they want from women.

    The best way to “outsmart” women, if you insist on doing so, is to spend a balanced mix of monetary and emotional capital to get what you want without exposing yourself to dire legal consequences.

    • fundude says:

      Dave “leading on” the female into pretending he will give her a big allowance if she lets him “sample the goods”, then bailing on her after the deed is same morally as a female rinser who leads the guy on by thinking he will get sex but never comes through while taking his money.

      Where’s the difference?

    • Josh says:

      If he did that with finesse then that would not be a problem…some men do it all the time…but suggesting that he bolts when she is in bathroom.

      What’s up with that juvenile approcah?

      • fundude says:

        Women have “bolted” often after a dumbass SD gives her a month of allowance.

        “Bolting” from a bathroom isn’t a crime.

  98. fundude says:

    For all the women claiming that they don’t “accept rinsers” on this blog:

    I give you KS as an example. She is basically a parody for a feminist, attempting every strawman argument possible to show that a “rinser” really isn’t that bad but that “Dave is bad”.

    Feminism 101 folks.

    • Anonymous says:

      The word rinser itself is bad. Yes, the female rinsers are just as bad as the male ones, but the common thing for the both of them is that they use and abuse dumb people who fall for them. Dave on the other hand has made quite a few controversial posts including but not limited to child abuse and later blackmail.

      • fundude says:

        I haven’t read extensively into his posts but from what I’ve seen Dave just basically leads the female on by allowing her to think she will get a big allowance.

        He subsequently has sex with her to “test the goods” and then dumps her before he gives her an allowance.

        This is morally equivalent to a female rinser in my book.

      • elaine says:

        We all know about your lack of reading skills and commenting without knowing what you are talking about.

        Sorry if it makes you look dumb again. :-)

    • Josh says:

      @Dave’s posts have contained:

      – Allegedly getting involved with minors.
      – Alleged premeditated monetary fraud.
      – Alleged reckless endangerment.
      – Alleged blackmail.

      • fundude says:

        What did he do to blackmail?

        What did he do with minors?

        What did he do for monetary fraud?

      • Josh says:

        I think that you need to read ALL of his posts before jumping in to “support” him. 😉

      • fundude says:

        Im not “supporting him” besides not immediately jumping to condemn him as a “molestor” or “rapist”.

        Often, feminists will use these terms on dudes they don’t like that basically “outsmart” them in the game category.

        1) Unless Dave put in writing that he would give the female money, I can’t see where there is actionable monetary fraud

        2) Unless there is a “quid pro quo” of blackmail for sex, this doesn’t stand

        3) Minors depend on the state. 17 y/o is quite young but isn’t a minor in many states. I personally wouldn’t recommend any female under 21 unless its a rare exception.

      • Josh says:

        “What did he do to blackmail?”

        Please read all of his comments from this blog.

        “What did he do with minors?”

        Please read all of his post in the “Why fling with the ring” blog page.

        “What did he do for monetary fraud?”

        Please read all of his posts from this blog page.

      • fundude says:

        Josh,

        Sounds like too much work lol

        He shouldn’t do any of those things such as blackmail or sex with “minors” if those allegations are actually TRUE and not some bullshit SB smear campaign against him essentially be a male rinser.

      • elaine says:

        @Fundiot

        “What did he do to blackmail?
        What did he do with minors?
        What did he do for monetary fraud?”

        “I haven’t read extensively into his posts”
        “I saw no evidence of physical abuse in any of Dave’s discussions.”
        “Keep rationalizing why its not that “bad” to be a rinser but a dude like Dave is “bad”.”
        “Dave is just doing the same thing as the other SBs,”

        Sorry, I DO realize this makes you look dumb again……

      • Josh says:

        @FunDude,

        Either you put the work in to read @Dave’s posts or stop supporting him just because some alleged feminists are opposing him.

        He’s doing a disservice to men here. And as an SD who thoroughly benefits from this site, I cannot allow that.

      • Charlotte says:

        Sometimes I feel like hitting the “like” button.

        Either you put the work in to read @Dave’s posts or stop supporting him just because some alleged feminists are opposing him.

        “He’s doing a disservice to men here. And as an SD who thoroughly benefits from this site, I cannot allow that.”

        Not that I know nor have read from Dave, but this approach is very very nice.

    • ks says:

      I am not a woman so I am not a she. I used one straw man to show the weakness in your argument, and yes it did actually parody your notion that financial rape is as bad as physical and emotional rape. I disagree when the circumstances are losing a few hundred or thousands of dollars to a SB if you are worth millions, but could agree if the circumstances were you are losing millions when you are worth millions (losing your home to banks, etc can create a lot of emotional stress). That is not likely to be the case with a SB/SD relationship encounter.

      There would be less conflict if people just met their agreed commitments. Relationships are not easy, but necessary in business and social circumstances. Abusers eventually get their comeuppance.

      • fundude says:

        you sound like a weak beta mangina. So I can’t tell if you’re not a woman

      • Anonymous says:

        How does he sound like a beta for God’s sake. Telling the truth now days is considered ‘beta’ and overrated.

      • Gentle says:

        @ks There would be less conflict if people just met their agreed commitments.

        Amen . I expect my SB to come(cum) when she says she will and I expect to pay her what I agreed to. I treat my Sbs like a treasure and I am appreciative of then. If it stops being that way we move on. Never in a million years would I intentionally rip her off.

        Intentionally ripping off a girl who has agreed to take care of your ass is weak ,unmanly, and unacceptable for a Sugar site. I hope Dave is playing the devil’s advocate for entertainment value in riling up the blog ,but if he is serious then get the f*ck out of here .

      • ks says:

        @Fundude, it probably sounds that way because you are hard of hearing, its probably also not the only sense you seem to be lacking…

  99. Josh says:

    @fundude

    “the loss of thousands of dollars >>> “emotional” upset by a woman.”

    As you mentioned earlier $1,000 is quantifiable…'”emotional” upset” is highly subjective to say the least.

    “Maybe you could get a therapist if you are so easily hurt by “emotional” issues.”

    Drum roll please…on Medicaid’s expense? 😉

  100. Josh says:

    Ouch…where are feminists to protest this?

    [http://www.thelocal.de/20150626/refugee-school-calls-for-uniform-modesty]

  101. flyR says:

    As long as I made the mistake of stopping by I have a response to

    “” A SB does what she does because she needs the money to live the lifestyle she aspires too. Not getting her allowance after having kept her side of the arrangement but being emotionally damaged by being lied too, threatened and perhaps physically abused is IMO a different consequence than for the M-M male with cash to spend on his indulgences. “”

    The writer makes the presumption that all women here are pretty much just here for the money and that the sex is a “cost” to them and emotionally damaging. I think a lot of young women are looking at the evening alternatives as

    Date with frat rat, pizza, beer, watching football with his friends and tolerating farting contests. Give blowjob, have minuteman sex multiple times, say goodnight and drive home.

    Nice cocktails and dinner with good looking but arrogant ( stockbroker, attorney or other early 30’s) . He has passing interest in my brain and assumes that since he spent some money on me and drives a Porsche ( poorly) he will get laid. Makes it clear that if I want another date that’s the deal.

    Nice cocktails and dinner with ok looking guy over 40, he’s relaxed , we talk about the world , me, fun stuff. He’s comfortable in his world and is fine with donating to my college fund. We’re both comfortable just hanging out and fixing dinner at his place before jumping into the tub and then bed. He believes in and practices ladies first both vertically and horizontally.

    Young women have been dating older men ever since the days when they lived in caves and noticed that the surviving older guys were dragging home larger dragons for dinner.

    • ks says:

      You are probably right on some points, its not just about the sex… its a way out of the low life, limited prospects existence by networking with people who can “jumpstart” your career, yet not surprisingly they want to jump you…so which is better? the allowance? or a promise that never materializes? or you are prepared to become the office bike in order to get ahead? At least the allowance is tangible, the rest are long-shots…

      • Another anonymous says:

        @ KS

        Allowance is tangible but also very fleeting. Networking and general ability to rub the shoulders with people in different stages of life can be more useful. But the FlyB’s argument was (I think) a bit different, that a relationship with a 40+ y/o gentleman (in the old definition) has an intrinsic value beyond and above allowance or career help.

    • ks says:

      @Another anonymous says.
      Yes you are right. It was another point I skipped over. But whilst FlyB may value the 40’s quality over the 30’s, or frats, it does not hold true for all SB. Its a personal preference as to what constitutes quality time. In my view, I would generalize that the one thing they all have in common, whatever age band, is the temporary nature of the arrangement. The duration is perishable and has a finite life. Otherwise an experienced SB would not be here looking for more SD and established SD would not be here looking for other SB.

      • Anonymous says:

        It’s flyR actually.

      • Another anonymous says:

        @ KS

        True. The whole SD/SB phenomenon is fleeting be definition. Otherwise the word long-term mistress would come to mind.

        And thanks for noticing the misnomer. Apologies to FlyR.

  102. Another anonymous says:

    @ FunDude

    Your calculation about the possibility of saving significant money straight from the residency is entirely correct, but I just doubt that people who are this determined with the budget will spend thousand(s) dollars a month on a SB.

    • fundude says:

      Correct on that account.

      Guys who are big savers are usually frugal and realize that most SBs are valueless.

      Ergo, they are the toughest to get an allowance out of.

    • fundude says:

      Its still peanuts compared to billionaires or really rich finance people.

      Even if you save consistently for 30 working years as a physician at the above rate, its only 6 million dollars net (without consideration of appreciation on assets/stocks/etc).

      That level can’t saved after having children, family, etc.

      That why you need your MBA to become some big shot who runs the hospitals, insurance company, etc lol

      • Another anonymous says:

        @ FD

        True, but a calculations of life long savings without consideration of the compound interest is somewhat hollow.

        And as to question, why to come here, actually these savers make excellent SDs later in life, when they have 10+M to their name and a sad realization that they missed something 25 years ago.

    • Anonymous says:

      YES you need money to keep things rolling…

      but you don’t have to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars to get quality women here or elsewhere. I have mind-blowing sex along with good conversation/company with my SBs for a modest amount…AND with my FWB for “free”.

      • Anonymous says:

        If you’re about 30, yes. But if you’re 60 then I doubt those women you sleep with are quality.

      • Anonymous says:

        I am neither 30 nor 60 but all three women are hot in bed. I had to go thru tens of SBs to settle on the two for right now.

        My well wishes to you to get more quality women in your life at a reasonable price point.

  103. elaine says:

    All this talking about the feminazis on this blog makes me wonder…

    Is a feminazi a woman who hates men? Then I think there is none here.
    Is a feminazi a woman who doesn’t accept male BS? Yes then there are a few of “us” here.
    Is every strong and independent woman a feminazi? Well in that case I am one.

    • fundude says:

      Feminazis are:

      1) Women who attempt to get every benefit from a man while giving him nothing in return (or as little as possible)
      2) Women who claim to be “strong and independent” (example: Elaine) while trying to get an “allowance” from men. Why the fuck do they need money if they are so “strong and independent”?
      3) Women who think not “accepting male BS” means they don’t do shit for the male but expect his money
      4) Women who believe in female supremacy in academia, business, marriage laws, etc
      5) Women who often claim to “not be a feminist” but follow all the above methods and more.

      • elaine says:

        Thanks @Fundumb

        You have just confirmed I am not a feminazi, thanks.

        1) I go out of my way for my man/benefactor.

        2) I am strong and independent yes.
        I don’t want alimony from my ex, have my own business, and take financially care of my children alone.
        I get an allowance because I am a mistress of married men and don’t have the benefits their wives have. It is their way to “pay” me back for time taken away from my business, being discreet, reliable, available, not causing drama, not nagging, always be on my best, mindblowing sex and not having expectations on the emotional part.
        Aka, everything any allowance should be in theory.

        3) Not accepting male BS means being to wise, experienced and self confident to take judgemental bs from fake “Alpha’s” like yourself. And challenging them on it.

        4) I don’t believe in female supremacy, I don’t believe in male supremacy either. I believe both sexes have their own “fortes”. I think genders should be equal, one NEVER be superior to the other.

        5) See 4. I have no need to be a feminist. I get what I want in my own, feminine way.

        Sorry for making you look stupid again….

      • Anonymous says:

        Isn’t the first one simply human nature? We are selfish beings you know. Men do the same thing, if not more. They are trying to get the best for blowing as little money as possible also known as the best bang for your bucks. Aren’t you a hypocrite?

      • Anonymous says:

        2. Men claim to want women who work or have another source of primary income here. Then you come and claim independent women should not do sugar. Make up your mind already.
        do you want a dependent or independent woman in sugar?

      • elaine says:

        He doesn’t want ANY woman in sugar.
        He is not an SD, never been.

        He just seeks audience for his ignorant, narrow minded and prejudiced rants and has “found” this blog for that purpose.

      • fundude says:

        Yes it is part of “human nature” but men don’t have a political movement that pushes for it like feminism.

        Also, the second argument is illogical

      • Anonymous says:

        @Anon 1:29

        No one, men or women is entirely independent, simply because we live in a society based on division of labor and trade in order to maintain our relatively prosperous lives.

        Dependency vs. independence is a matter of degree. In the context of relationship between men and women, it is about to which degree unequal “exchanges” in terms of material wealth have to take place; i.e. how much subsidies the woman has to receive in return for her sexual value.

        The more the woman is actually independent the better; the less the woman perceives herself to be independent the better. There is usually a gap between reality and her perception, usually in the negative (she is actually less independent than she perceives herself to be). Most men appreciate a competent woman in her own right who thinks her happiness is dependent on her man; no man likes a woman who is actually dependent on her man but thinks she is not.

      • Anonymous says:

        Most men appreciate a competent woman in her own right who thinks her happiness is dependent on her man.

        Maybe in regular relationships, but in sugar ones where there is no emotional attachment I do not think that would be a suitable argument. Sugar arrangements can be called off in a second, so having your hapiness depend on the SD’s mood is a far fetch.
        Now as I stated before Fundude, I was talking anout financial independence. I am sure many have stated here that sugar should be an additional allowance to improve your life, not a primary income. I equalize that with being independent in your own right, and not depending on the SD for buying tomorrow’s bread.
        How is that bad?

      • Anonymous says:

        Happiness is more than just having the basic needs met.

        Sure, sugar relationship is not marriage, but it is not escorting either. When a sugar relationship goes south, there is usually plenty warning weeks if not months ahead. I never drop an SB at the drop of a hat. I prefer sugaring to be a dating relationship with financial help on top as frosting (among other forms of help and mentoring). The frosting is there so that she doesn’t become resentful due to taking up her limited time during her peak reproductive years. If she withholds the emotional aspect of dating, that would be a strong reason for ending the sugar relationship. I don’t sugar girls who have boyfriends; orbiters and backup plans in waiting would be fine as many women keep those, but not ongoing polyamory except for if her only other sexual relationship is with a lesbian girlfriend.

  104. fundude says:

    @All

    Until I see women condemning “rinsers”are vociferously as they condemn Dave, I will not condemn the actions of Dave.

    Women will AT BEST condemn “rinsers” (female equivalent of Dave) with a lukewarm condemnation. The females will never call her a “rapist” or other shaming language.

    Most women will condone rinsers.

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      Hmmm…I’m pretty sure that most every rinser who has breezed through the blog has been called out by female bloggers.

      I do not recall any female blogger condoning rinsing.

      • fundude says:

        OK, yet there are tumblr pages made specifically for this issue.

        How many men have TUMBLR pages dedicated to them to pull the methods that Dave employs?

        Its not symmetrical.

      • elaine says:

        @Fundumb

        Please stop your dumb statements, all resident SBs here make fun about the Tumblr, IG rinsers and condemn then, and you know that very well!

        My God, I can’t immagine how someone so ignorant and childish, wants to make us believe he is a doctor… which requires a level of empathy, intelligence and education you obviously lack…

        I even saw a post where you stated that being physically and mentally “rinsed” is less worse as loosing some small change (you pretend to be rich, remember? )

        Quite a doctor…..

      • fundude says:

        Why does women’s “emotional” issues constitute a bigger problem than losing thousands of dollars?

        Women an have “emotional” problems from many different things. It’s an intangible that can’t be quantified.

        Ergo, its not a good barometer of anything.

  105. fundude says:

    Denise Richards confirm the AF/BB behavior.

    This whore admits she liked having sex with the “fun guys” before having children. Now she wants a “nice guy” after she had kids who will be “loyal,stable,etc”.

    Alpha Fucks/ Beta Bucks boy!

    Be alpha fucks at the lowest cost possible! Screw marriage lol

    • Kiskiss says:

      Dear FunFagola oops Dude ?? Dude really …lol You call Denise Richards a whore?. She always says nice things about you?….what happened to you little boy..Did mommy slap you around too much ?? Is that why yo hate women??.Xoxo

  106. Josh says:

    @Dave

    You claim to bolt when the women are in the bathroom. What if one of them decides not go to the bathroom?

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      Going somewhere with this?

      • ks says:

        I believe its purely a hypothetical question…all women love the bathroom…they spend hours there…would you care to demystify the strange rituals they perform there that requires HOURS and not minutes?

  107. Josh says:

    @FunDude

    Please allow me to put @Dave’s shenanigans in relevant perspective for you.

    A “patient” comes to your office. Has no insurance…he’s told that he would have to pay $200 for the visit. He agrees to do so. You check him out and give him your diagnosis. He pretends to go to rest room and slips out without properly being checked out by the cashier. You are out $200.

    Then he posts on your website that he did that because some doctor caused his family to file bankruptcy and he is out exacting revenge. You decide to report him to the authorities but he sends you an email/text that if you tried to report him he is going to out the information that you are cheating on your spouse or potentially committing Medicare fraud.

    Is he a criminal/crook/”sick” in your eyes yet?

    • elaine says:

      There you go!

      Maybe you should add that he is stating to “Hate doctors” ….

    • ks says:

      You are right. But IMO Dave is a fantasist, he has not done any of what he claims. He is having fun provoking the feminazis. His comments actually serve as Public Service Announcements to SB and help them look after themselves. He might even be a character created by a feminazi to further her cause…

      • elaine says:

        Only a man can come up with such bs…..

        You really think any of the SBs would put any time and efforts in creating such a sick persona?
        WHY ON EARTH would we?!?!

        I think Dave is a dangerous mental case.
        Maybe telling the truth, maybe still only fantasizing, but with such deep hatred against women, a potential danger nevertheless.

      • Josh says:

        @ks

        Anything is possible on the blog but…

        …suggesting that @Dave may be a woman, who writes whatever she does to make men look bad..would be similar to saying that a man wrote fantasies about $15K platonic lunches to make women look bad.

        Any woman trying to live up to the $15K platonic lunches fantasy would be disappointed…anyone trying to enact @Dave’s “fantasies” would either go to jail or get into some kind of serious jam.

      • ks says:

        @ Elaine.
        No not true, a woman can come up with BS as well, this blog is littered with examples. The blog has done a fine job of encouraging equal gender BS.

        I also agree with you and do not believe a real SB would come up with such a scenario, a feminazi might; a feminazi cannot be a SB and vice versa… unless instead of being made from sugar and spice and all things nice they are composed mostly of hypocrisy in order to achieve the Damascene conversion needed to rapidly transform from a strong independent woman to dependent babe at will.

        Feminazis posses a deep hatred against men, they are also a potential danger nevertheless… In the blog world of equal access both men and women are capable of creating online personas to further their aims. Machiavellian? Yes…can we ever know for sure? No…

      • ks says:

        @Josh,
        Kind of…the man would write comments to promote the notion that $15K platonic lunches are unreasonable demands of ugly older women with no sense of self-worth in order to make women not identify with such a bad role-model… whilst simultaneously he would be promoting the notion that independent fair just and beautiful women are more than happy with $200 lunches as adequate compensation for on-demand companionship single meet encounters that result in mind-blowing sex. Of course its BS, as most propaganda is, but in terms of changing public sentiment its achievable. Of course you really need to be a hater and cheap to do so. Most blogs have all the ingredients needed…why should this one be any different?

    • fundude says:

      Yeah thats a scumbag move.

      But I don’t see this being any different in behavior than most platonic SBs or many other SBs that play games with intimacy to obtain cash but never put out.

      Dave is just doing the same thing as the other SBs, except the other way around.

      • Josh says:

        @FunDude,

        Are you telling me that women are smarter than men to scam men WITHOUT ever having any possibility of going to jail?

      • fundude says:

        @JOSH

        Plenty of women remediate fraud against SDs. They are called “rinsers”. They pretend they might get intimate while taking tons of cash from the SD in expectation of later sex which never materializes.

        The female who is dishonest by leading the guy on is equally as guilty as a Dave.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        There was a woman in my town who was ripping guys off on bakpg and crgslist. Bait-and-switch, “upsales”, and, in some cases, robbery by way of “her boyfriend came home and busted them before the act. Most didn’t report her for fear of outing themselves, but one guy decided it was worth it to bust her. She went to PRISON.

      • ks says:

        I see a big difference in the consequences. A SB does what she does because she needs the money to live the lifestyle she aspires too. Not getting her allowance after having kept her side of the arrangement but being emotionally damaged by being lied too, threatened and perhaps physically abused is IMO a different consequence than for the M-M male with cash to spend on his indulgences. If she does not keep her side of the bargain, or wants to constantly renegotiate he just drops her and has lost some money. Money cannot equate to the emotional damage. If you cannot afford to lose a few hundred or thousand with gold diggers you should not be in the SB/SD game. Along the way we help each other with our needs and common interests, there will be bad apples on both sides, ditch them ASAP, try to weed them out earlier. I failed recently, I probably need a new BS detector refresher course (which is what caught my eye with this article), or I could drink less wine…I’m taking the course…

      • fundude says:

        @KS

        I saw no evidence of physical abuse in any of Dave’s discussions.

        Furthermore, I find loss of significant sums of money WORSE than a little emotional distress lol

      • ks says:

        @FunDude,
        If losing a few hundred or thousands is a significant loss to your financial well-being, perhaps making you suffer an emotional moment… then you either need a better investment advisor, therapist or another prescription, alternatively the SB/SD arrangement might not be suitable for you… I will accept your opinion on Dave’s posts, you will have read more of his fantasies than me.

      • fundude says:

        I consider the loss of thousands of dollars >>> “emotional” upset by a woman.

        Sorry to break the news to you.

        Maybe you could get a therapist if you are so easily hurt by “emotional” issues.

      • ks says:

        @FunDude
        You will be pleased to hear I am not easily upset or emotional. I don’t like to see anyone upset or emotional, nor do I want to see them conned. Fair play to all participants. You make a deal verbally, adhere to your part of the bargain, get rid of the low life con artist whether male or female. Take the high road. I believe exploitation is bad and is not an indicator of a civilized society. I rationalize I am not exploiting anyone, nor them me, by reaching an arrangement where both adult parties can exert their free will and choice. Bilking someone who needs the cash in revenge for some rinser who outsmarted you in the past is poor form. Losing money to rinsers is tuition fees…learn and move on…

      • fundude says:

        KS is the typical mangina/feminist

        When a woman rinses a guy it is because she “outsmarted” him= its the GUYS FAULT

        When a guy outsmarts a woman by obtaining sex without money= Guy is a scumbag who “emotionally” abused the woman and should’ve taken he high road.

        Ergo, the woman is always right.

        Feminism 101 folks.

      • ks says:

        @FunDude
        Its a false dichotomy. You also equate a con-artist taking money as the same consequence as a con-artist who physically and emotionally abuses you. What if instead of a con-artist taking your money and not providing you sex, she turned out to be a he and was very willing to allow you sex and in addition you had to take one for the team or she/he would tell the world you really love batting for the other team? If this happened would you not feel more emotionally vulnerable and abused? Would you be rushing to tell the guys about your sexual exploits with another man and how much you enjoyed taking one for the team with as much enthusiasm as you would about telling them being rinsed for a few bucks? Maybe you are Bi and don’t care. I don’t know. You do.

      • fundude says:

        @KS

        Nice straw man argument.

        Keep rationalizing why its not that “bad” to be a rinser but a dude like Dave is “bad”.

        Feminism 101 people

      • ks says:

        I already did rationalize it, in a number of different ways. Its your turn to try and understand what was stated.

    • Another anonymous says:

      @ Josh

      That $ 200 argument is a bit of a stretch. Many MDs would consider it a pro bono work and forget about such a patient. Not many SBs have such an approach to their POTs. :-)

  108. Anonymous says:

    @Elaine,

    The whiny males are not men, but boys. Boys who are afraid of taking up “the men’s duty.”

    @Dave,

    Some RedPill knowledge on the realities of male-female relationship is quite useful in maintaining attraction; however your fraudulent pick-up game seems to be yet another way of putting the pussy on the pedestal. Since you should already know there is very little value to the pussy besides the reproductive value, why would you risk STD having unprotected sex with random low self-esteem women without putting them through STD tests first (they were not claiming to be virgins, were they)? and risk legal trouble defrauding them? for a dopamine and oxytocin fix?

    @ SB’s who want to avoid falling for scams like Dave’s

    1. Before getting into a car with a stranger, get a photo of the license plate and upload it to an online storage.

    2. Have some financial common sense. A person making $200k/yr as soon as getting out of college (extremely rare) would only take home $10k/mo after taxes, and even if consistently saving 30%, s/he would only have about $400k after 10 years at age 31; stock indices have returned very little in the last 15 years. That’s why it is nearly impossible for a man in his 20’s and early 30’s to be a millionaire today, just like it is nearly impossible for you to be a millionaire before your are past your reproductive prime (you will have plenty time to do that in the 50 years afterwards).

    3. Because of the relative lack of available real millionaires (about 1% of the population, much less than 0.2% among unmarried population and less than 0.1% among population under 35), such a person has nearly 100% chance of getting laid on 2nd date on SA (and no later than 4th in real life), he would not rush you into having sex with him on first date.

    4. Strictly speaking, being a millionaire is not necessary to be an SD. Someone making $100-200k/yr is sufficient; such a person usually has about $100k-200k net worth not counting their primary home, far short of being a millionaire unless his home and real estate holdings have appreciated significantly in the past half decade (no other asset class presented that kind of appreciation and leverage opportunity in the past decade; the writing may be different in 2030 after another stock market bubble like we had in the 1990’s). If a person in his 30’s admitting to these $200k / $200k parameters, he can be honest and can be a legit SD without having to prove his asset holdings, even if one who is far from being Christian Gray.

    5. The scammers tend to be young men with little to lose and pretending to be millionaires because they are just devoid of financial common sense as their female victims of comparable age.

    6. If a man in his 20’s and early 30’s claims to be a (multi-)millionaire, extra-ordinary claims demand extraordinary proof! To be convinced of it, you should demand to see evidence: It can be brokerage account balance if the guy is one of the extremely rare phenomenal traders. Then there is the issue of the authenticity of the printout. Being a doctor or lawyer alone can’t possibly make a person net worth even $300k by age 35 nowadays, most likely in the negative due to student loans.

    7. A far simpler minimum requirement test today for someone under the age of 50 (yes, 50!) claiming to be a millionaire is whether he is the owner of his primary residence. Most towns and cities have land title records online available for search on a smart phone! Thanks to the real estate crash from 2008-2012, anyone with $50k-100k cash and steady income over $100k in the US could have bought a house worth $250k-500k between 2009-2013 on a conventional mortgage, when the average home prices in hot areas were about half what they are today (The million$ condo and houses in NYC and SFBA today were about $500k back then in the trough). There was very little reason for a person with more than $500k (or even $200k) not to buy a house back then if he had not bought previously. Earning money and return on asset takes time, unlike lottery. A millionaire in liquid assets today probably had at least $200k 5 years ago; so I don’t believe those “liquid millionaire” renters. It could be believable in 2007, before the crash, but not today.

    A swaggering renter claiming to be a millionaire is someone either not able to rub $50-100k together a few years ago (i.e. he is not likely a real millionaire; earning money and earning return takes time, not a sudden event like lottery), or someone who was too chicken little to grab onto financial opportunities.

    A man having a clue should realize that recreational sex is almost all risk with very little reward potential (a dopamine/oxytocin fix, just like a drug fix, except legal, perhaps more healthy than alcohol and tobaco if safe sex), quite unlike financials where risk and reward are correlated. A man who doesn’t dare to take risks in pursuit of reward in his finances, but swaggers and takes great risks in his recreational sex life, is probably a scammer with little to lose, and will probably continue to be a loser in life because he is too cautious where there is much reward while too daring where there is no potential reward.

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      Ever consider going for a swim in the ocean with cinder blocks strapped to your ankles? You’ll surely be proud of yourself then if not now.

      • Anonymous says:

        Yes, having cinder blocks strapped to the ankle would be a disaster to naked swimmers. That’s the perspective I get from reading some of the Men’s Right Movement anti-women and anti-children writings.

        Then there are those of us who are not swimming naked in the ocean, but piloting great ships displacing tens of thousands of tons. Having a few cinder blocks on board wouldn’t even have a noticeable effect on the ship’s speed. In fact, having some extra weight placed close to the core of the ship close to the keel is good for the ship’s stability.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        I see.

        Might this be your mighty ship?

        [http://www.traveladventures.org/countries/falkland-islands/images/new-island14.jpg]

        Or maybe this…

        [http://mycoolpix.com/files/funzug/imgs/crazypics/ship_wrecks_undersea_04.jpg]

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Nine hundred twenty-two words. 922!!!

        Why? How even?

        How about not taking the circumferential route in your rickety ship.

        [http://wordcounter.net]

      • ks says:

        It may be 922 words, but I understand why…he and I may even have originated in the same type of environment…details and substantiation…it becomes ingrained…that’s the way good and bad habits are..there have been many PowerPoint bullet point successes, Enron, Arthur Andersen, et al…we might not be an easy read on blogs…but we have other uses…

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Ever consider exchanging emails? Co-writing a book? Cohabitating on his mighty ship? Basking in the Sunshine? Setting sea on an epic voyage with anchors on your penises?

      • Anonymous says:

        @YGBK

        While anything is possible life, ship wrecking is a very low probability event; otherwise, there wouldn’t be a shipping industry.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        ok

        Thank you, Anonymous.

      • ks says:

        Ever consider exchanging emails? No. We have this blog.
        Co-writing a book? No. It would mean sharing royalties.
        Cohabitating on his mighty ship? No. I don’t like boats. I hire when needed.
        Basking in the Sunshine? No. I try and stay out of the sun as most of my life has been in sunny climates.
        Setting sea on an epic voyage with anchors on your penises? No. I had never thought of that one. Its clearly the work of a sick perverted mind. When can I meet her?

    • ks says:

      On your items 1-7.
      1-First date should be a public place arrive and depart by own means.
      2-Kinda…I know a number of young men whose parents dote on them and provide them use of fancy cars and directorships in the family business to live a lifestyle way beyond their capabilities. Granted this is a small number and I generally agree with your observation.
      3-Being a multi-millionaire or not, is not going to get you laid. Money will get you laid but then she is a hooker and its the cash in her hand, not how much you have invested. If she is focused purely on extracting a lifestyle to which she would like to become accustomed then she is also still a hooker. Again its not about being a multi-millionaire (M-M), its about what you are prepared to spend on her. I know stingy M-M and free-spending non millionaires. An SB/SD arrangement is more like having a mistress, its not just about sexual favors its about relaxing in each others company. Which is why I see short term arrangements as necessary before entering into longer-term commitments. If a male is not prepared to put a ring on her finger then its not a long-term arrangement…or commitment.
      4-Agree with the conclusion, not the reasoning and 5-Agree.
      6-Proof of investments or brokerage statements is useless. You need to experience the monthly allowance first if you are hesitant about providing sexual favors and just being used. If you really like him and desire him, you may ignore the need for allowance completely and just have him, aka Johnny the Drummer types as mentioned elsewhere in other comments. But Johnny will eventually pay, he just has a lay away plan and does not know it yet…
      7-Agree with the conclusion and not the reasoning. If you really have money you own at least your own home and never rent. You have no need to leverage investments as you have enough in the market and the home is just a convenient discretionary spend and not needed as an investment. When you are still seeking to make money, then renting rather than buying makes sense (good luck with timing the market)… but if you are still seeking to leverage every last cent to make money, its unlikely you are the type who freely spends money on “indulgences” such as SB… hooker type transactions would be more your MO…

      • Anonymous says:

        I mentioned leverage because I was looking for the minimum requirement for someone in his 30’s to be a millionaire. We already established that counting on wage income alone can not achieve thha net worth goal in the limited available time. Out of all the things that can be leveraged, a conventional mortgage (20% down payment on a primary home) at the trough of the market between 2009-2013 was certainly the safest bet, and no nightly margin check either. If someone is so risk-averse that he would refuse to bet on that when he was renting during that crash, chances are that he won’t be a millionaire until his 60’s and beyond if ever; the median age for millionaire is around 60.

        Currently we also face the issue of artificially low interest rate enforced by central banking (since the late 90’s if not the early 70’s). I have bought multiple buildings with cash, but only in situations where the competing bids can not borrow against the buildings either, so the price was low and yield was high (25+%); no point entering a gun fight with a knife. I agree with you that primary home is for personal enjoyment first and foremost. However, for a hypothetical person in his 20’s, 30’s and even 40’s, being able to borrow half a mil at 4% or less then able to generate 25+% on the money thus freed up is highly advantageous (nearly $100k a year extra income via the arbitrage alone). Even someone very averse to home ownership should have bought in the 2009-2013 window allocating only $50k-100k of his at-minimum $200k-$500k liquid money at that time, if he is a millionaire today. People don’t transform from nothing to millionaires overnight.

        On SA, being a real millionaire may still not get you a 2nd date, but if there is a 2nd date, getting laid is almost 100%, at least in my experience, unless I choose to delay due to special circumstances. Therefore I find no need to hurry anyone into sex on first date.

        “Putting a ring on it” used to be the condition women extracted for reproductive partnership; at that time, they also faced tremendous social disincentive against divorce. Nowadays, divorcing a wealthy man is all rewards no cost under Marriage 2.0 contract. While it is possible that I might be convinced to propose if a woman is pregnant with my child if she is a real unicorn, I prefer not to promise future marriage when just dating, especially if the girl is already well rewarded for her time; under promise and over-deliver tend to be a safer strategy.

    • fundude says:

      I agree with a lot that was stated in this essay that you wrote. I have a few issues though about the physician “can’t be a millionaire by age 35” these days.

      IF the physician is making 400K/year after coming out of residency with NO student loans (thanks to parents), he can save 200K/year if he lives modestly.

      Ergo, 200K times 5 years= 1 million. This is without any appreciation on an SP500 index fund or similar instrument. He could’ve had significant appreciation over the last 3-5 years of investing in this fund with dividends included.

      He can DEFINITELY be a renter as well during that period of time.

      The rest of the essay was pretty spot on about the low growth environment of the stock market over the last 15 years.

      The vast majority of men won’t be able to achieve these goals.

      • Anonymous says:

        A typical physician does not make $400k/yr right after residency.

        Someone with parents who can plunk down $800k for education in medical specialty that can generate $400k/yr as current average for all practitioners in that specialty (such as cardiothoratic surgery, anasthesiology, even then not beginning salary) probably does not have the focus to endure the 1.5 decade or longer medical school and residency. Most students who enter those tracks flunk out before making the money, even without the distraction of college pussies for guys who have that kind of parents. There are just too many other opportunities along the way for a kid from wealthy family to follow that tough track. Making money in other ways is just so much easier.

        Someone making $400k a year would have little over $200k take-home pay after taxes. It would take tremendous discipline to save even $100k/yr; heck, even $70k/yr. This is another reason why kids from wealthy families would not pursue this track: it would take him 8-14 years to save up for his kid to do the same track even if assuming zero inflation.

        I know numerous doctors and dentists personally. Not a single one followed the track of renting and saving like you suggested. They all bought their homes shortly after starting earning real money in order to save on taxes; then bought more and more houses and buildings as safety backup for their wives and family in case something happens to their hands. The Doctors in high paying specialties make a living by their hands.

      • Another anonymous says:

        @ FD and Anonymous

        The other way of having no student loans after residency is to be an international medical graduate, med schools outside of the USA charge very small if any tuition and 30 % of residents are IMG, even such a high earning specialty as anesthesia had 16 % of them. If you add the fact, that medical schools outside of the USA are frequently 6 year programs with no college, it is possible to be a fully employed anesthesiology attending with no debt and cute accent well on the way to a million after 7 years of practice by the age of 35. Whether this is a statistical significant phenomenon is a different issue.

      • fundude says:

        Where did you get “800K” for education?

        College can be essentially free with scholarships. Some people even get partial academic scholarships to med school.

        Ergo, you can spend about 150K on educational costs for everything.

        There are physicians in the lucrative specialities that are coming out making 400k/year, especially if they go to underserved places.

        49K can be saved each year tax deferred using a SEP IRA plan, especially if there is matching.

        Ergo, only 150K/year has to be earned post tax.

        If one’s expenses include:

        1) 1000k/month rent
        2) Car payment, insurance, etc of 1K or less (can be written off as a tax expense through partnership)
        3) Food and misc expenses 500/month.

        Thats only about 2K/month in expense on that 400K year /salary.

        It can be done, trust me.

      • Anonymous says:

        Even with IMG, even using the shortest high-paying specialty, anasthesiology, the residency requirement is still 3+1 years, on top of 6 years of medical education overseas. That puts the person at 28yo. He would have 7 years to save up to $1mil before he turns 35, roughly 2 to 4 years more than someone getting his degrees in the US.

        The current average income of Anasthesiologist is $350k. It was as little as $230k as recently as 2012. The take-home pay for $350k is about $180k, that of $230k is $120 or so. Even saving as much as 30% of take-home pay, there is little chance the person can save up $1M in 3 to 7 years.

        IMG’s usually finds residency matching in the fly-over country after passing the board exam. Places with $1000/mo rent is once again in low income area, where the pay is at the low end of the spectrum for the specialty.

        FibDude, check your own budget. There is little chance you are spending only $2k/mo if you have a $200k/yr income ($10k/mo take home pay after tax, less take-home if you contribute $49k to SEP IRA). While men are somewhat better than women in controlling spending, the difference is saving 30% of take-home pay vs. 15% for very disciplined people in each gender, not 75%.

        The special situation we have had the past 15 years, with near-zero stock index return, and a massive housing market crash half a decade ago, combined to give SB’s a very useful weeding out tool:

        1. The alleged stock market millionaires are mostly liars;

        2. The render millionaires are mostly liars.

        3. The early 30’s alleged millionaires are mostly liars.

        The few who are not should be prepared to show the actual numbers of alleged liquid assets.

      • Anonymous says:

        *renter not “render.”

        Millionaire renters in 1999 and 2007 were much more believable, but not now.

      • fundude says:

        @Anonymous

        We can agree to disagree on that point. I am confident in my assessment.

        The rest of your comments I agree with.

        The salary figures weren’t 230K in 2012 for anesthesiologists either.

      • Anonymous says:

        The 2012 ~$230k number for anaesthesiologists came from the Bureau of Labor Statistics. See this link:

        {http://work.chron.com/much-anesthesiologist-make-per-hour-24280.html}

        It is one of the best paying medical specialty and one with the shortest residency requirement. It has high liability risk and potential criminality temptation due to handling opioids and other narcotic medicine all the time.

      • Anonymous says:

        Also, that’s for average pay in the specialty, not starting pay especially starting pay in low cost of living area.

      • fundude says:

        BLS salary numbers are too low unless its adding in part time people.

        MGMA and Medscape is more accurate

  109. Josh says:

    Even though @Dave makes some good observations about women in general and SBs on SA in particular, I find his modus operandi uncalled for.

    Brandon has provided us–men in middle age–the opportunity to engage with beautiful, young women in a drama-reduced fashion. Spend some money and have fun with these (mostly) fine, (mostly) non-pro beautiful young ladies.

    What @Dave has been writing about here is what some teenage boys would do and more alarmingly what some sexual predators or sex criminals would do.

    I am NOT a fan of censorship at all but the blog owners must give him a warning here, and privately, to discourage him from his juvenile and possibly illegal shenanigans.

    • fundude says:

      I see Dave manipulating women out of money. I don’t see any evidence that he is a “sex predator” or “rapist”.

      Please show me how the dude is a sex predator. From my understand, that is basically a person who stalks a woman when she clearly doesn’t want him around.

      • elaine says:

        @Fundiot

        Exactly, and because you don’t see the problem in a guy that starts his post with: “I hate women!” that’s exactly why you should seriously consider therapy.

        And oh yes, it is also perfectly normal to drive women to a remote place and force them to have sex with you, threathening to otherwise kick them out of the car and leave them there.

        Sure doctor, that is all normal behaviour in your eyes, right?

    • Josh says:

      To not be able to follow through on a contract is not a problem. Shit happens.

      However, premeditated maneuvers to defraud someone of her money, even based on verbal contract, is a crime.

      If he meets a woman in a hotel room and she does not do what he though they agreed on, and he bolts…then that’s one thing.

      But planning to bolt regardless of what she does or does not do for him is a premeditated crime.

      • fundude says:

        Plenty of women remediate fraud against SDs. They are called “rinsers”. They pretend they might get intimate while taking tons of cash from the SD in expectation of later sex which never materializes.

        The female who is dishonest by leading the guy on is equally as guilty as a Dave.

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      Dearest Guru, merciful Lord on High. I humble myself before thee in graciously asking that you extend your request to the Gods to include lifting the ban from the IP associated with this post:

      [https://www.seekingarrangement.com/blog/blog/2015/10/28/managing-multiple-sugar-babies/#comment-452344]

      Please tell them, Omnipotent Guru, that you recant your statement about me being a force to be reckoned with. Your humor was lost on the blog flashlight police. I recognize that you are the only force that matters in the minds and hearts of mere mortals.

      Having to post from my phone really sucks sometimes…and not in the way that you enjoy, Lord Guru. In forgiving me the transgressions, misdeeds and flaws of my womanly logic, I dedicate my humble and gracious service to you. I promise to be goodish. Uh huh.

    • Anonymous says:

      Say what?

  110. ks says:

    For some inexplicable reason you remind of the character Papa Lazarou from the League of Gentlemen…
    [http://www.lofg.com/character_profile.php?profile_id=1]

  111. elaine says:

    @Noname

    If you are interested in investing in Europe, I know something that might be of interest for you.

    If you want to know more you can contact me at:
    elainesablog at google mail

  112. ks says:

    I find it interesting that my innocuous comment by ks “Your comment is awaiting moderation.” Its date/time stamped November 28, 2015 at 12:09 pm and yet is still awaiting moderation. Its especially perplexing given the content of comments that others made subsequent to that date/time…weird…

  113. elaine says:

    I am wondering who are the biggest idiots here…..

    @Dave who writes on a sugarblog “I hate woman” and tells proudly about forcing even 17 yo into sex by threathening them.

    @Fundumb who get carried away with this and starts his endless and clueless tirades about “Fat feminists” and write nonsens like: “They think it is perfectly acceptable to be older/BBW” (Yes it is, and you will find out yourself in about 10 years)

    @ Bond who ask them for advice.

    The “Anonymous” who support and applaud them.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Trick question Elaine, it’s a tie…

    • noname says:

      good morning elaine are you in italy

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        State your intentions, noname!

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        By the name…I prefer your name pronounced “no-nahmi.”

        SB: What’s your name, Daddy?
        Noname: Nonahmi, Mami.

        Exotic!

      • noname says:

        YGTBKM i don’t speak italian im thinking of going there this summer to look at a business i would need a someone who can speak the langauge im not sure if i will do this yet its outside my comfort zone but i would like to expand my investments beyond north america and asia

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        No funny business, noname!!

        Hmmm…based on Elaine’s impressive fluency with English as her third language, and what I know of her business savvy, I think she’d make a fine international business woman. A rather lovely one, at that! And don’t worry…they use the metric system there…she’ll be good as gold ;p.

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      I vote FunDude…mostly because he’s smart enough to know better. Disappointed. :(

      Dave can’t help it…he has mommy issues.

      Bond can’t help it either…he has daddy issues…needs guidance.

      Anonymous is just a lost cause…has cyclical bouts of mental constipation and diarrhea.

      Group therapy, maybe? ARA…Ad hominem Relief Anonymous? Free shots of Pepto Bismol?

    • fundude says:

      Thats big penis to you Elaine.

      And thanks for the confidence.

  114. Anonymous says:

    What I’m looking for
    Dates, gifts, no sex, cars, designer, good laughs, generosity

    I wonder how many car’s she is looking for?

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      This is a no-brainer. Implement Dave’s 12-step program.

      1) Borrow your mom’s Mary Kay Pink Cadillac.

      2) Wrap it with a bow, and present it to SB.

      3) Exclaim, “Congratulations, I bought you a cars!!!”

      4) Tell her to hop in the passenger’s seat because you’d like to take her on a test drive.

      5) Drive her to a dead-end dark alley near a dilapidated crack house.

      6) Exclaim, “Gotcha, Bitch!”

      7) Tell her that she can either put out or get out of her brand used cars.

      8) Flick your tongue up and down in a rapid motion, and undulate your torso.

      9) Proceed with subsequent course of action.

      10) High-five yourself in the face with a brick.

      11) Go to your local courthouse, and change your name to Dave.

      12) Return your mom’s Mary Kay Pink Cadillac.

    • Anonymous says:

      Do I have to dig up Alexander McQueen or kidnap Stella McCartney?

  115. Tor says:

    I was seeing an Asian American in Florida and she always needed more money and I let it pass because the sex was great. As soon as She heard the word no she just disappeared, I was a little angry but not surprised. She was half my age so you have to expect that eventually. I think not only did her family know she was doing this but that her parents were making her do it, that’s how desperate some people are in the 21st century economy. I felt a little sorry for her really, her family was really taking advantage of her. Anyone who thinks their pseudo-girlfriend 25 or 30 years their junior will not dump them tomorrow for a med or law student is fooling themselves.

    • noname says:

      SB don’t last long in the sugar bowl get use to it and move on

    • Another Anonymous says:

      @ Tor

      There is a long way from a med student to an attending or from a law student to a partner, much longer than average sugar dating. So there is still a chance to keep the girlfriend. Just the exclusivity will be even more doubtful.

    • fundude says:

      Most law students don’t make jack shit these days.

      Unless you go to a T14, don’t go.

  116. Anonymous says:

    Wore two SBs out tonight. Both are sore. Going to FWB for the finely.

  117. Dave says:

    I remember a few years ago I overheard a conversation between my best friends’ sister and her co-worker. They were discussing the guys that they went out with , got free dinners from , and had absolutely no intention of dating and were not attracted to the guys at all. Now if that is the mentality of someone I know personally , how many women actually do that ? I would guess 50% have scammed men just to get free meals or a fun date paid for. That’s what drives me to do what I do.

  118. Dave says:

    @mr bond .. Also before you run game on the women make sure you gather personal information which is easy to get these days . These sluts are vindictive as all women are and you can be 3 chess moves ahead of them by having their personal information . You can launch a preemptive strike immediately after you run scam on them .

    • Bartolo says:

      If you have a lot more to lose than she does . . . good luck with THAT strategy.

      • Anonymous says:

        I thought I was having an “issue” with a POT that I turned down. She kept messaging me, alternating between begging for a date and lashing out at me for not following through. (She was too young and too fat; we’d only had one coffee date.)

        I knew she lives at home with her parents, so the best I could do was take a screenshot of her page here and, if needed, threaten to give it to her dad (a local politician).

        It never came to that.

      • Dave says:

        And also wear clothing that is easily grown on. Slip on running shoes , pants where you don’t need a belt , keep your wallet in your car as well. While the cunts are in the bathroom ( every female cleans up and pees after you cum in their axe wound) that’s when you hightail it out of there . Once in your car , you launch your ballistic attack by stating that “” insert name will know you’re a prostitute if you fuck up my game on SA” and that point they will capitulate especially of you involve their mother or Xbox weed smoking boyfriend

      • Dave says:

        *clothes that are easily thrown on *

  119. Masha says:

    Ugh, I fell into the trap. This guy has been scamming women and sending the same copy and paste messages for years. He was always oddly specific and really tried to paint the fairy tale picture just to get some nude photos.

    A snippet:
    After I ended that arrangement I met the young lady in LA and when we started that arrangement she was receiving an allowance of 15,000 a month. After I saw consistency with her I moved her out of the place where she was staying in LA and bought her a condominium in Malibu near the beach then later bought her a Mercedes Benz S500 because that had always been her dream car. That arrangement lasted for three and a half years and by the time I ended it she was at 30,000 a month. Now she received more out of the arrangement then the other because she was more open minded and I was happier with her.

    • Masha says:

      Some more of his message for laughs. The moment I saw it was him, I blocked:

      The person I choose I would see when I come to town, once consistency is established they can travel with me or I could have them flown to where ever I am. I get invited to everything such as The Oscars, The Golden Globe, The SAG Awards, The MTV Awards, The BET Awards, The Grammy’s, etc… so I may ask this person to accompany me to some of these events. Because you cannot wear off the rack in Hollywood I would have a custom-made dress by the designer of choice be it Versace, Dolce & Gabbana, Gucci, Prada or who ever. One for each events because you cannot wear the same dress twice. She would also be able to travel with me as she wishes I travel all over the world. Another benefit to the arrangement is I either advance a career that the person is trying to achieve or set them up in a business of their own so that should the arrangement end she can continue the lifestyle that I provided for her

      • Bartolo says:

        If someone believes that shit when they read it for the first time . . . they deserve everything they (don’t) get.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      You didn’t fall into a trap. You let greed overrule your common sense. If it sounds too good to be true…

      • noname says:

        jay you should tell masha about trinity maybe she will be jealous she was offered so little

      • Masha says:

        He sprung that giant copy and paste message after I replied with “hi”.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @noname LOL Trina was on her way to making 50K a month.

        @Masha You are an idiot. Just be happy that all you gave him was nudes. Any man that was genuinely willing to provide for a woman in that way wouldn’t advertise it in the first message to a stranger.

        It’s most likely something he would do for you over time once you’ve proven yourself worthy of his generosity. Take this as a learning experience and move on.

      • Bartolo says:

        “It’s most likely something he would do for you over time once you’ve proven yourself worthy of his generosity. Take this as a learning experience and move on.”

        No, it’s MOST LIKELY something that is NEVER going to happen. Jay, are you really telling Masha that its “likely” that some guy on here will buy her an S500, take her to the Oscars and give her $30k/month once she’s proven herself “worthy?” Did some alien creature invade your brain? :-)

      • Jaybird923 says:

        LOL No read my post carefully.

        “Any man who was genuinely going to provide for a woman in that way wouldn’t advertise it. It’s most likely something he would do for you over time once you’ve proven yourself worthy of his generosity.”

        You are a man of means, if you were willing/able to give a SB all those things would you tell them that in your first message?

        Would you start off doing things for her on that scale or would it take a long period of time to work up to it?

        Do I believe she’ll find her golden goose on here? No, I just wanted to demonstrate a point. Unless the man is a total idiot he would never tell you these things up front and that should be your clue that he’s a fake.

      • noname says:

        from what im reading on this blog a SD is a fool to offer more than a 1000 so when you see a message like this its likely written to lure a gullible person in just like like a hot lady that wouldn’t give you a second look promises you heaven if you give her a advance people need to be a little less hungry and a lot more careful to avoid being hurt

  120. fundude says:

    Fuck marriage:

    {{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeEVwKweus8}}

  121. Anonymous says:

    LOL! Tim Tebow’s Ms. USA girlfriend dumped him because he “refused to have sex with her for his religious reasons”.

    A mustache can only carry the lie so far. Come out of the fucking closet already!

    • Anonymous says:

      He is an SB’s dream come true! Money, wealth, and fame but no sex.
      They are going to put in their profiles now “Looking for my Tim Tebow” instead of “Looking for my Christian Grey”.

  122. AnonMan24SD says:

    Unlike a lot of men on this site, I like AA women as long as they’re pretty, educated and act/dress in a conservative manner. Unfortunately, where I live in NorCal, they’re not that many attractive non ghetto types to pick from. I always wander over to the Atlanta area and check out the plethora of attractive AA women listed there. Seems to be an abundance. I was browsing today and came upon this gem. Have at it boys!…e4c64b35 :)

    She is actually quite passable. She could definitely fool someone if he/she wasn’t honest.

  123. Anonymous says:

    The only thing better than a single platonic arrangement is a TRIPLE platonic arrangement! 3X the cost, 3X the drama, and 3X the headache. Then you get to masturbate alone at home 3X more than usual….LMAO

    e9d615621

    • Anonymous says:

      Maybe blowjobs and testicular play are not listed under their definition of sex?

      • Anonymous says:

        Yes, somebody asked a question here once about wanting a bj’s only arrangement.

      • Anonymous says:

        The only guys getting BJ’s from these 3 women are the alpha fraternity boyfriends banging them for free. They get all the sex, while the SD supplies all the shopping, expensive dinners, trips, and monthly allowance. It’s a win-win for all involved!
        (except for the loser omega chump SD)

  124. fundude says:

    @Anonymous

    There should be NO feminism in the sugar world if feminism meant an actually “independent” woman in a theoretical sense.

    However, in actuality, feminism is basically fine with taking men’s money and oscillating between being a “strong, independent woman” when it comes to obligations based on women’s role (means she won’t do shit for you) while often demanding traditional obligations to remain for men.

    This dichotomy is common when women cite “chivalry” for men. They often ask, “where has chivalry gone”?

    They don’t mean the parts where the women were virgins, deferred to their husbands, etc. That part shouldn’t apply according to feminists.

    But feminists basically want the OBLIGATIONS OF CHIVALRY to be unilaterally applied to MEN in terms of defending women, paying for them, etc.

    Ergo, its really about female supremacy. If you look at it that way, then feminism and sugar go hand in hand for many feminist.

    Sugar dating for feminists= man gives her money but gives him NOTHING in return because she is “fabulous” and “deserves it” and you know “patriarchy”

    • Anonymous says:

      Like I said, if you are a “feminist”, get a fucking job and pay your bills. The second you step into the sugar bowl, you have lost all rights to call yourself that. If you are a SB and still call yourself “independent” or “feminist”, then a “hypocrite” would be a more accurate nomenclature.

      • fundude says:

        Feminists are often hypocrites. Do you really think feminists are bounded by things such as justice or consistent logic?

        There ONLY logic is to GET AS MUCH FOR THEMSELVES and GIVE AS LITTLE AS POSSIBLE to men.

        Once you apply the above logic to feminism, then you can understand their perspective on any issue.

        Ergo, a “platonic SB” is consistent with the modern feminist.

      • fundude says:

        Their not there lol

      • Anonymous says:

        The word “platonic” has no more place in the sugar world as the word “feminist” does. For crying out loud the SD/SB arrangement is the simplest, most uncomplicated relationship in the world. No money, no sugar, no sex. No sex, no money, no sugar. The Daves and the rinsers are just mucking it up for the rest of us.

      • fundude says:

        Dave is basically the reverse of the feminist SBs (“platonic SBs”).

        He has basically taken the view to GET AS MUCH AS HE CAN with giving the female AS LITTLE AS HE CAN GET AWAY WITH.

        Ergo, feminists who have this applied to them get upset and cry “rape”. Feminists never like when a man acts the way feminists act.

        Of course on a theoretical level sugar should be the stuff you say.

        Other things sugar should be include:

        1) A “baby” has to be a true BABY not an old woman
        2) Most men don’t like BBWs

        Notice how women never want any of these standards applied though. They think it is perfectly acceptable to “rinse” men or be older/BBW, etc. while men should just throw money at them.

        Dave types are far fewer on SA than feminist SB types.

      • Anonymous says:

        I don’t have any problems with BBW’s calling themselves SB’s. If they are a fat 19 year old, hey more power to them. There are guys who are fat fuckers. But I take umbrage with 60 y.o. calling themselves “babies”. The term is SG: Sugar Grandma. Just like in the fairy tale Hansel and Gretel.

      • Anonymous says:

        Of course you’re still independent if you’re into sugar. You have to have other means of income and sugar should only be as an addition to your life, meaning you don’t depend on the sd. Sugar doesn’t take away your freedom.

    • Anonymous says:

      Means she won’t do shit for you

      So an arrangement is one sided only huh? It’s mutually beneficial for a reason. She gives you attention, intimacy and an nsa relationship to your old, bald ass.

    • Anonymous says:

      Lol clueless. Most platonic women are either virgins or don’t feel like escorting to get money. ERGO, they’re not feminists, just wanna be an eye candy.

      • Anonymous says:

        She can be an eye candy as long as all she gets is eye money.
        Fair is fair. Platonic sexually. Platonic financially.

        Shove that up your feminist ass.

      • Anonymous says:

        Lol idiot, Josh has addressed this already. Most of them are virgins.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      @fundude Let’s do a little experiment. Do a search and see if you can find 3 profiles that are for a feminist SB. And post what you find.

      • fundude says:

        SD profiles that are for feminists?

        Unless they are a sadist, they would run for the hills.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        What? I keep forgetting reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit. You keep going on about all these feminist SBs on SA. .. find me 3. If there are so many of them it shouldn’t be a difficult task.

      • fundude says:

        Most feminists don’t admit to being feminists. You should know that

      • Jaybird923 says:

        LMAO I rest my case. What a cop out. SMH You want to rant about feminism,fine just do it but don’t try to tie it to sugar just so you can have an excuse to do it.

      • elaine says:

        @Jay

        He doesn’t even has an excuse for being here at all….

        This blog is to exchange thoughts about the sugar lifestyle.
        What does he know about that?

        But ok, since nobody takes him for serious anyway, his whining here might help him saving on therapy costs.

        So let’s consider us supporting his silly rants as our contribution to society.

        Because someone with such deep hatred for any person “fat”, “old” or “feminist” could turn into a “Dave”, without therapy.

  125. Anonymous says:

    Here is another 60 year old profile. Still calling herself a “girl”.

    edd323ff

    She is almost Medicare age and her profile name is “justagrl”.

    She probably already had both hips and knees replaced.

    • Anonymous says:

      I don’t know about hip replacement but she doesn’t look bad for a 60 year old. That said the delusions of American women know no bounds.

    • BBWlover says:

      I’d do her for about a month. From her profile info sounds like she’d do me nice and nasty with all the filthiness that thought evokes.

    • SDaddy says:

      The thing is -she is prob appropriate as a FWB or a GF. A 70-80 yr old guy might have an OK time with her ,but an SB she is not .

  126. Dave says:

    “Upkeep Expenses

    Ask any female, even the most au natural, and they will express to you the ever growing cost of upkeeping their appearance. Sugar Babies are the cream of the crop, so it goes without saying that these demands exponentially increase since they like to look the best for their Daddy! Taking care of this for her guarantees your Sugar Baby will always be a vision of perfection, with an added smile on her face thanks to you.” —- from sustainable sugar blog. Now replace daddy with husband and the feminazis will call you a patriarchal mysogynist !!!!

    • Anonymous says:

      I would not mind if the SB is using the money she is getting from me to make herself look better. But I am not naive enough to realize she is doing it solely for my benefit. Most likely, she is doing it to look good for her girl friends and for her XBox playing broke BF at home. But as long as I get to fuck her pretty face, what do I care?

      • Dave says:

        I really don’t care either . I am pointing out how warped feminism and modern day thinking is . In fact it is more backward than the patriarchal system . So the blog teaches women how to sustain “sugar” yet when you point out 1950s videos that taught women How to please their husbands you are labeled a mysogynist or sexist . I merely stating that married women during the 1950s had more power because for one they men were legally and religiously bound to their wives and two the father of the bride was always on the picture to protect his daughter . Being a sugar baby exonerates men from any responsibility and I’m proof of that .

      • Anonymous says:

        There is no such thing as feminism in the sugar world. In fact it is the diametric opposite of feminism. It is the complete antithesis. I specifically NEXT the profiles where they state “I am an independent woman”. Sugaring is the penultimate dependence. A feminist sugar baby is a contradiction.

      • Anonymous says:

        If you don’t like a modern-day feminist then you’re a misogynist.

      • fundude says:

        There should be NO feminism in the sugar world if feminism meant an actually “independent” woman in a theoretical sense.

        However, in actuality, feminism is basically fine with taking men’s money and oscillating between being a “strong, independent woman” when it comes to obligations based on women’s role (means she won’t do shit for you) while often demanding traditional obligations to remain for men.

        This dichotomy is common when women cite “chivalry” for men. They often ask, “where has chivalry gone”?

        They don’t mean the parts where the women were virgins, deferred to their husbands, etc. That part shouldn’t apply according to feminists.

        But feminists basically want the OBLIGATIONS OF CHIVALRY to be unilaterally applied to MEN in terms of defending women, paying for them, etc.

        Ergo, its really about female supremacy. If you look at it that way, then feminism and sugar go hand in hand for many feminist.

        Sugar dating for feminists= man gives her money but gives him NOTHING in return because she is “fabulous” and “deserves it” and you know “patriarchy”

  127. Dave says:

    @Mr Bond
    Regarding free samples . When this first happened to me , within 3 weeks of joining SA, I was thoroughly shocked . I was not expecting to even get sex on the first date. The first spinner asked me to go back to her place for fun so I obliged . It was too mechanical bro , she had a hot body but was not into it . I quickly finished then left her apartment . She texts me 3 days later asking to have her bumper fixed on her truck for $600 . I declined because if she wasn’t into me the why did she do it. Did she not realize that I could tell ? This is how stupid and valid modern day women are . After that I realized I could promise them the world and that would get their coochies all wet and the second would be better . So that’s how my methods I use were born . These women, not knowing my intentions , sure make a more solid effort to please when they think they are getting the world . It’s their fault . 90% of women on here lack any class yet they will be theory ones to claim they have class . Some with skull tattoos and purple hair now even claim they are classy . Modern day women and their own behavior has done them in and it’s great seeing men waking up to it .

    • Anonymous says:

      Sure, Davie Wavy, I believe every word you say, cause I know you wouldn’t never scam us good folk on the blog.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Let me get the popcorn. Please Dave won’t you tell me another story…. LMAO

      • Dave says:

        You sure are obsessed with what I post . If it had no substance you wouldn’t be replying, yet you commment one every one of them .

      • Jaybird923 says:

        As long as insist on posting stupid shit I’ll making fun of them. If you just wqnted to share your nonsense on feminism like fundude I’d be fine with that

        I might disagree with some of it but there would be no animosity just like with fundude. But you insist on bullshit stories about scamming women or calling them degrading names because they disagree with you. The same way I would and do call out the women who do it I’ll call you out for it too.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Forgive the typos I’m on my phone

      • Dave says:

        Nobody cares about your typos or opinions. I feel just fine scamming women and it’s been fun. It’s fun being on the flip side of the coin for once

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Dave we all know it’s not true. You are a fraud. Your mistake was in creating to elaborate a persona. It doesn’t hold up under scrutiny. For God’s Sake just stop pretending or do a better job at it.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I didn’t give an opinion I made a statement. And the apology was for the literate participants on the blog not for you. Though I have to admit your grammar has gotten better so maybe some good has come from all the nonsense you write

      • Dave says:

        Yeah you’re right. I’m making this all up in my head for no reason. Ok

      • Jaybird923 says:

        It’s not for no reason. You’re doing it for the attention it’s garnered you. Your first persona as the stud with 3 SBs who wanted to add another but didn’t want to drop one because she’s done nothing wrong, didn’t work. So a couple of days later you reappear as Dave and it worked like a charm. The sad part is neither persona was necessary. There are all types here in our little community.

        Who ever the real Dave is probably would’ve been welcomed by most. For a lot of us this is the only place we have to interact and discuss things with others in this lifestyle or those who are curious about it. The whole spectrum is represented here. From the virgin to the grandma, the escort to the playboy…

        There is already a deep seeded mistrust between most SBs/SDs and a fear of being ripped off that is turning SA a into a pseudo escort service. The stories you’re telling does this community no good. All it will do is create another level of mistrust..another hurdle to forming good arrangements.

  128. fundude says:

    Any thoughts on the abundance of overweight, older, unattractive SBs on here? The concept of being a “baby” that is ATTRACTIVE is lost on many women lol

    Reasons I can think of include:

    1) Fat Acceptance movement and false notion that most men want women with “curves”.
    2) SATC influencing stupid women to believe Mr Big goes for post wall women
    3) Female friends telling them they are “special”
    4) Educated in some bullshit women’s studies degree making them “special” and demanding of a high value male.

    • Anonymous says:

      I like meaty women…but truth be told it is VERY difficult and tiring to make love to a fat woman. I like a slim woman who has decent amount of flesh/muscle/fat on her bones so that her body does no poke me when pushing.

      I am sure that someone is going to respond…’but “some men” like fat/curvy/BBW women.’

      Correct…more power to “some men”…who like all kinds of stuff including but not limited to scat.

    • Anonymous says:

      I don’t know what your problem is. When I do a search I only check “Slim” and I adjust the age range according to my preference (less than 30). So I never encounter these fat women you are always yapping about. I suggest you adjust your search parameters accordingly.

      • BBWlover says:

        That’s cause fundoo is actively seeking out these fat women.

      • Anonymous says:

        It does seem to be an unnatural and unhealthy preoccupation with fat women in general. Personally I could not fuck fat women. I would rather fuck a homely woman with an unbelievable body than one with a pretty face but fat. If she is a buttaface I would just do her doggy style. Any position you fuck a fat woman and you are reminded of how fat she is.

      • fundude says:

        I get messages from these women. I find it amusing that they think some guy would “pay” to go out with them.

        Some rare weird dude would like it but the vast majority won’t

    • Dave says:

      My messages this morning were from one fat woman , one 40 year old, some tatted up freak , and one hot one. SA should ban all fat women

    • Anonymous says:

      I search for slim, athletic and average. You find gems in average from time to time but most of the time average = fat.

      • Dave says:

        Yeah right on . Sometimes the occasional athletic is also fat .

      • Anonymous says:

        Unfortunately in America “average” for women now is 160 lbs.
        I am a male 6 feet tall and 170 lbs. I want a girl who is at least 40 lbs less than me.
        So only “slim” in my searches.

      • Lilly-Elizabeth says:

        In my personal vanilla life I’ve dated men and women of all sizes so looking on here I don’t care about size. However, “fat” people can be athletic and work out all the time, which is why I guess the reason many SD who do not look “athletic” list themselves as so. I list myself as average rather than slim because I have tits, hips and ass that is not associated with “slim” and I fit right in the expected healthy weight range for my height.

      • SDaddy says:

        @Lilly-Elizabeth

        Yes, you are correct in listing Average. True Avg is fine with me. T&A with even a small belly is OK ,but most “Avgs” are a few (or more)lbs extra.

  129. fundude says:

    Great article on feminism and Western women:

    {{http://illimitablemen.com/understanding-the-red-pill/red-pill-constitution/}}

    This is critical reading information to understand the reality of the feminist society we are living in.

    The only one better is the “misandry bubble” article, which I will offer later.

  130. Anonymous says:

    Do you fancy an affair with an inmate? Wanna get freaky with a girl wearing an orange jumpsuit? Do you think being celibate in prison makes one really really horny? Check out this profile. LOL!

    e34fc9b21

    • THEATLSD says:

      Winner!!! Holyshiot that’s the best one yet. How does one top a SB in the pokey. Just Damn. And a model to boot.

      • Anonymous says:

        The idea of conjugal visits really makes me so horny. One of my all time fantasies. You don’t know if you are going to get fucked or shanked!

    • Rookie says:

      I have to admit I’m a sucker for them bad girls….

      • Anonymous says:

        So they give inmates free unlimited internet access in prisons now? Shouldn’t they be making little rocks out of big rocks? What happened to the old chain gangs? I am really happy to see where my tax dollars goes. What else do they have? HBO? Netflix?

    • Anonymous says:

      Good news is that she would probably not have drivers license for a while. So she is more available. LOL!

      • Anonymous says:

        What the hell did she do to land a prison sentence for a DUI? Repeat offender? Did she hurt or kill somebody? I thought that you get probation and mandatory Alc Anon meetings plus suspension of license but not prison time.

      • Anonymous says:

        You are correct. It’s not straight up DUI/DWI. There is more to the story that landed her in the prison.

    • fundude says:

      Wow these “international models” appear old and unattractive these days.

    • THEATLSD says:

      I just found the perfect app to her family can use. Sesame Street Icarve ration app. I’m not shoiting you guys go search the App Store.

    • Bartolo says:

      Interesting enough you can easily figure out that the photo does indeed belong to someone who is incarcerated . . . but for far more than “DUI” as claimed in the profile.

  131. THEATLSD says:

    dink18

    Your thanksgiving weekend entertainment.

    • Rookie says:

      @Atl
      I can do you one better playa.
      e13377e

      • THEATLSD says:

        Rookie she has posted on the blog before looking for help. Of course we obliged her with sound advice.

        “Over worked under paid” :) Sounds like a type we all know.

      • Rookie says:

        I knew she looked kind of familiar, can’t keep track of all these ladies giving off negative vibes.

      • Anonymous says:

        I have no problems with either of those profiles you posted. They are honest about their race and even admitted difficulties of black SB’s finding an SD on their profile text. My problem is with those who misrepresent themselves like this one. Her name is Ty. I reported her several days ago.

        e09e6925

    • Anonymous says:

      Ouch!!! ee18c04

    • Anonymous says:

      @THEATLSD…the profile moniker you posted above looks like a ho to me. Next!!!

    • Jaybird923 says:

      @Atl dink18 has posted on the blog also. I recommended that she just delete her profile but obviously she didn’t take my advice since it’s still up.

      @Rookie yours is on Instagram too. She’s always bitching about the same thing

  132. fundude says:

    Future of Germany and Europe thanks to feminism:

    {{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TiKEAOcOU-Y}}

    Good job feminists!

  133. fundude says:

    Here’s another “athletic” future sugar baby that is always TRIGGERED:

    {{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0bUWOx_6nQ}}

  134. Anonymous says:

    Women consider that whinning is their inalienable right.

    • elaine says:

      Interesting, the only whining I have seen here the last 3 days have been from men.

      • Anonymous says:

        True, most drama queens have been men complaining here. FD-Feminism, Dave-women don’t like me…

      • Senor Bond says:

        On SA women whine way more than men. Even in said profiles women write : ” I will not text you back and forth forever ” .. Or “there has to be a meetup soon after the first message” or ” I am not going to wait around while you pick and choose which girl you want ” .. However when men complain in the regular dating world about women playing games then we become stalkers , creepers , and losers . Men don’t complain on their profiles women do , in the thousands ..

      • elaine says:

        You really think men don’t whine in their profiles @Bond?

        Wahaha, maybe it’s time to make a fake female profile then.

        C’mon, both males AND females whine on SA!
        Just read the comments in this blog…need to say more? 😉

      • Senor Bond says:

        I wasn’t talking about the blog, I was talking about the profiles . The quality of women has dropped significantly yet these same women consider themselves to be substantial or high. Single moms , fat women , etc. now admit there is a double standard with women . Women’s profiles on this site , and I can name about a dozen right now, that have complaints listed on their profiles . When men do that then we are creepers and stalkers and weirdos. Is that not a true statement ?

  135. Anonymous says:

    Why are so many of these bitches passing themselves off as a different race?
    Hispanic ????????

    eeb37c83

    • Anonymous says:

      She’s not only “Latin/Hispanic” but also “Athletic.”

    • fundude says:

      How the FUCK is that “athletic”?

    • Jaybird923 says:

      There are black Hispanics you know…

      • Summerkisses says:

        Thank you.

      • Anonymous says:

        Yeah right. I bet she cannot speak one whole sentence in Spanish. The only racist here is the person who created that profile full of mis-representation. She was not showing up on searches during her original profile so she decided to mix things up a little bit. Like it would make any difference. I would be expecting Sofia Veragara but Queen Latifah shows up instead!

      • Rookie says:

        I know several Cubans and Domincans who “look” black, so I wouldn’t automatically dismiss this person for passing themselves off as a different race.

      • Anonymous says:

        Yeah, Obama’s mother is white so that makes him white right? I remember one obscure newspaper article written 8 years ago saying that he was our first African-American president. I have not heard of him referred to as black anywhere else, just that one article. All other media reports him as white. (sarcasm). Please stop defending this profile’s obvious deception. Call a spade a spade. Don’t insult my intelligence.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        No one is insulting your intelligence. Just because she doesn’t fit your image of what a Hispanic should look like doesn’t means she’s not who she claims to be. There are plenty of latin people who don’t speak a word of spanish or they speak some jacked up spanglish. Not all latins look like JLO. You want proof of that turn on your TV and watch a baseball game. Or do a simple Google search.

      • Anonymous says:

        Jaybird you really are insulting my intelligence and that of every other reader here. I only see this kind of duplicity in AA SB’s. They claim to be Asians, Hispanics, Pacific Islanders, etc. They call themselves Columbiana, Nubian, Mesopotamian, any other term except for what they really are: BLACK. Now why is that? If you are black, call yourself black. Stop trying to manipulate the search demographics.

      • Anonymous says:

        And yet in any other facet of life like Affirmative Action, college admission, job application, even if they only have 1% black blood they will proudly check themselves off as black. Unfortunately, being black is a negative in the sugar world so they avoid their ancestry and race like the plague. SMH

      • Jaybird923 says:

        No just challenging your narrow mindedness. The fact that you insist on arguing about facts displays your level of intelligence and I must say I’m not impressed. Are there many girls masquerading as something else on this site? Yes, like the asian from the other day. Are there black Hispanics? Yes. One fact doesn’t negate another in this case.

        Besides why all the whining? It doesn’t matter she listed herself as you wouldn’t pick her anyways. If they won’t to misrepresent themselves that’s their problem. Let them be delusional. just skip the profiles and move on for God’s sake

    • Anonymous says:

      Because they know so many of us will omit their specific race when we do searches. It’s as simple as this.

    • Kore13 says:

      Is it because she’s not pretty? jreedley wanted to know what the most popular race was (I wonder why?) and didn’t get the same shit for it. She even showed more signs of being a scam…

      Just sayin.’

  136. noname says:

    has anyone used open minded how much do they charge fopr that service all i could find on it about the cost is that they provide a free trial

  137. Josh says:

    @Jaybird923

    “The last thing I want is to be sitting at a dinner table for hours trying to explain why 2+2=4 to some dimwitted child because I was horny and decided to sleep with his idiot father.”

    :)

    • Senor Bond says:

      She’s got a good head on her shoulders though she needs to understand why we are frustrated .
      If more women were like her we wouldn’t be complaining

    • Anonymous says:

      If more women were like her then you’d be waiting for a loooooong time.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Haha very true :-)) but once you’ve got me you’re set as long as you don’t start with the stupidity. I have no desire to play any of the games men and women insist on playing with each other. I know the rules I just refuse to play. I say what I mean and I mean what I say and you should too or I’m out.

  138. Josh says:

    Youth is a valuable commodity that many SDs don’t have anymore.

    Money is a valuable commodity that you do have, which neither Johnny nor your SB has.

    You don’t even have control over what your wife/gf does while you are busting your ass away from her trying to make money for you and for her. Your SB is away from you 160+ hours in the week. What she does in that time is not in your control.

    Why worry about Johnny the drummer? Worry about what you can control…that is your own happiness…which is a choice.

    • ks says:

      You nailed it. In addition, SD mid-life crisis can often mean multiple SB. No worries about Johnny or his SB equivalent, or as the old joke goes…
      A husband and wife were having dinner at a very fine restaurant when this absolutely stunning young woman comes over to their table, gives the husband a big open mouthed kiss, then says she’ll see him later and walks away.
      The wife glares at her husband and says, “Who was that?”
      “Oh,” replies the husband, “she’s my mistress.”
      “Well, that’s the last straw,” says the wife. “I’ve had enough. I want a divorce!”
      “I can understand that,” replies her husband, “but remember if we get a divorce, it will mean no more shopping trips to Paris , no more wintering in Barbados , no more summers in Tuscany no more Mercedes in the garage and no more yacht club. But the decision is yours.”
      Just then, a mutual friend enters the restaurant with a gorgeous girl on his arm. “Who’s that woman with George?” asks the wife.
      “That’s his mistress,” says her husband.
      “Ours is prettier,” she replies.

      • Bill says:

        “but remember if we get a divorce, it will mean no more shopping trips to Paris , no more wintering in Barbados , no more summers in Tuscany no more Mercedes in the garage and no more yacht club. But the decision is yours.”

        He seems to be forgetting she takes half in the divorce and will still get alimony and child support to support her lifestyle. :)

      • ks says:

        @Bill says,
        It might if the estate is large enough, but generally after any divorce the lifestyle changes are significant for both parties. Hence the lingering bitterness… probably better to just suck it up, stay together, share common interests and pursue your passions separately within the existing framework…yes there is still some bitterness but marriage is not all roses there are some lemons…

  139. Anonymous says:

    The women you meet on Seeking Arrangement are usually blowing Johnny the hot drummer on the side. A guy who bought her a few shots at the local watering hole, and then couldn’t be bothered to return her texts the next day because cartoons are on. He paid $4 for some shots, and gets sex whenever he wants it. She pursues him for sex. You on the other hand are stuck taking her to expensive restaurants, giving her an allowance, buying her things, etc., and the sex you get isn’t as frequent or passionate as what Johnny is getting. You’re paying significantly more, only to receive less. That’s because she actually desires Johnny. She does not desire you, but will capitulate sex for money.

    The same women you’ll meet on Seeking Arrangement are the ones who will sap up your money, enjoy a trip across the country, and then blow the bartender at the place where you took her about the night before. You’re sinking a big investment into a group of low quality, albeit hot, women who otherwise will give sex away for free.

    • Senor Bond says:

      This is why we sympathize with the Daves of the world . He figured out the art of manipulation thus, essentially, he becomes a bad boy . He even stated he gets freebies and never calls them again .

      • Jaybird923 says:

        LMAO Try it and report back on how well that works out. Dave is a fake. Don’t use him as your inspiration. Instead invest your time in properly vetting POTs and finding a nice girl who will treat you with affection and respect. Instead of just selecting the girl with the hottest pics

      • Senor Bond says:

        Taking advice from a female on SA is like asking Josef Stalin for advice on human rights .

      • Horndog says:

        I would not use Dave as a role model unless you want to flirt with the idea of becoming the “sugar baby” of your 350 lb cell mate in state prison someday. He will ask you if you want to be the “husband” or “wife”. You will say “husband” of course. Then he will say “Come here and suck your wife’s dick!”.

      • fundude says:

        The only difference between “dave” and “johnny the drummer” is that the women expected Dave to give them money for sex while Johnny was a freebie. Dave led them to believe they would get money but decided to dump them before paying. Johnny was just a “fun bad boy”, so he should get sex for free.

        Ergo, they were “raped” by Dave according to feminist logic.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Of course because why advice wasn’t in your best interest. Go ahead and try to recreate Dave’s fairy tales. Good luck

      • Jaybird923 says:

        my advice not why

      • ks says:

        Dave’s fantasies are provocative. But if I make an arrangement I keep my side of the verbal deal unless I can see she is having second thoughts and wants to renegotiate. If SB wants to change the terms, I have the choice to agree or walk away. If I walk away its not because I am insincere, its because she wants to renegotiate and some do it constantly… They do say that once you have sincerity faked you have it made, some SB are not as good as they think at faking it…which is why some arrangements turn out to be a once-off meet and greet. Men and women are both equipped with BS detectors, so let the probing begin…I could not see myself not fulfilling my side of a deal. Because some SB perhaps took financial advantage of me in the past is not a good enough reason for me to take advantage of another SB. Perhaps the blog character Dave is merely created to warn SB of the dangers of SB/SD arrangements, or just someone who gets his rocks off with such fantasies. I don’t know…

    • Anonymous says:

      I would not be so concerned about Johnny the Hot Drummer too much. He has his own problems. Say, if he looks at another chick, she will cut his balls off. You, on the other hand, can have Johnny’s girl, Jessie’s girl and even Harry’s girl. Yes, it will require a little bit of financial incentive on your part, but…make peace with it. You can have three pretty chicks to play with, all in the same week. And that chick of Johnny’s loves it when you cum in her mouth. You do that – all well knowing, she tells Harry he is the love of her life and the “only one she would ever”.
      I think it is fun, don’t you?

      • Senor Bond says:

        My best friend is high school was named John. Total loser , even robbed an army surplus store after high school . Didn’t own a car . Girls would line up and pick him up on their car . Fuck his brains out . I would say 3 hot chicks in all . Now at age 38 he married a land whale and he makes minimum wage . Loser women chose loser men. The bad boys don’t always win as neither do the hot girls . They choose their own fate in life

      • Josh says:

        Of course it would be ideal to bang hot chicks and make a successful career simultaneously. However, most of us have to choose with one or the other.

        Many a times due to certain life circumstances some of us don’t have that choice available. That is, hot chicks may not dig us when we are younger. In that case focus on studies, career, entrepreneurship, etc., to make money to come back for the second round with more resources. The key is to not “settle” and get stuck with a future whale.

        Life is not fair to most around the world but every new day brings fresh opportunities spanning over 24 hours.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      If there’s anything I detest more than a whinny female is a whinny ass man. This isn’t a new revelation. If they desired you they’d be fucking in real life and you wouldn’t have had to turn to SA. Some young women like older men but the majority prefer someone their own age. Either look for a SB that’s genuinely attracted to you or accept the situation and stop complaining about it. It is what it is.

      • Senor Bond says:

        So you have sexy with losers and convicts too? I’m just asking , seriously .

      • Jaybird923 says:

        No sir I don’t never have never will. I’m very selective about who I’ll let touch me and would rather remain celibate for extended periods of times.

        I’ll only sleep with someone who’s genes I wouldn’t mind passing to my offspring in case of an accident, someone who’s financially capable helping me provide for said offspring and someone who I genuinely like enough that I wouldn’t mind dealing with them for the next 18+ years.

        People take sex to lightly and forget that there are lasting consequences. The last thing I want is to be sitting at a dinner table for hours trying to explain why 2+2=4 to some dimwitted child because I was horny and decided to sleep with his idiot father.

      • Senor Bond says:

        So why are you on SA and find on someone to marry ? I respect you

      • Senor Bond says:

        I meant why aren’t you looking for marriage then ?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I have no real desire to marry. It was never something I wanted much to my parents chagrin. Everyone thought I would grow out of it but I didn’t. That’s why I decided SA might be the best place for me.

        I have no desire to be part of the casual sex scene that’s going on right now and no desire for a traditional relationship. If done right this is the best of both worlds for someone like me. I’m a monogamous commitment-phobe. :-)

      • Senor Bond says:

        About he whining part .. Women whine on SA more than men. It’s even written on the profiles “message me only if you’re serious ” I will not text back and forth forever .” And the ” I want to meet up asap” . Now on regular dating sites of men wrote stuff like that then we are creepers and stalkers. See the double standard ?

  140. fundude says:

    Feminist psychologist concludes that women go for the “nice guys” not the “bad boys”

    {{http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3336987/Actually-s-nice-guys-girl-thank-Women-lose-men-cheats-liars.html}}

    Now that men are waking up to the AF/BB (alpha fucks/beta bucks) reality of female mating, the feminist establish has now put out a “study” to get the “nice guys” who are jaded back onto the plantation.

    This “study” basically just shows pics to women to rate the male’s attractiveness. Women obviously go for the “bad boy” type on initial attraction.

    The psychologist then says well the attractive “bad boy” guy is a “cheat, liar, etc”, then asks if the female still likes him.

    Of course the female responds, “of course not”, I rather have a “nice guy”. Wow what a shock! She says exactly what the psychology WANTED HER TO SAY!

    Psychologist concludes that women are into “nice guys” and its based on “evolution”.

    These studies are getting more and more ridiculous lol

    Its clear there is a fear that men are waking up to the “nice guy” racket and aren’t willing to be beta bucks in the same way anymore.

    • Josh says:

      The applicability of this study is extremely narrow for several reasons.

    • Anonymous says:

      ha ha, so true!

      The whores are sitting on the shelf with no takers, so a way must be found to bring the suckers back … lol.

      This was FlyBoy!

      Cheers Doc :)

    • Senor Bond says:

      I would say that they know now that the consequences of their behavior have landed them in hot water . Now they want a way out . Stay true to your convictions . Never be a captain save a ho.

    • Kore13 says:

      @Fundude I remember reading about a study once – about how women are attracted to these two ‘types’ of men depending on their monthly cycle.

      Basically, that women want sex with ‘bad boys’ when they have the urge to reproduce, but that they are attracted to ‘nice guys’ when it comes to being taken care of. Not just this, but that the dis/similarity in DNA plays a role: attraction to genetic dissimilarity for procreation, similarity in upbringing (because hormones tell you to seek out ‘family’ that will help take care of children).

      • Kore13 says:

        And I have a feeling that you could be right. The article doesn’t mention anything about a woman’s sexual tendencies (if she is mono/pmoygamous) etc. Or, simply, whether she would stay with a nice guy since women often treat men like ‘nothing they do is good enough,’ whether they’re good or bad. 😛

        Also, the link they posted doesn’t go to the study itself.

      • Kore13 says:

        On second thought, it’s not such a bad thing, actually, in terms of who gets sex for longer. The bad boys for a shorter amount of time than the nice boys. 😉 The end is, specifically, that both get left. 😀

  141. Senor Bond says:

    @Dave, what percentage of SBs give you free samples ? Do you ask for them or it just happens ?

    • Anonymous says:

      Asking a rapist for advice, I see.

    • elaine says:

      He FORCES them Bond.

      He drives them to a remote area and tells them he will kick them out of the car and leave them there if they don’t have sex with him.

      And he states to “Hate women”, so unless you are suffering from the same mental issues, I wouldn’t ask him for advice.

  142. TVC15 says:

    Women paying men for platonic in Japan: {http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3336428/Would-pay-sleepover-cuddle-New-service-offers-send-handsome-men-single-women-platonic-overnight-stay-Japan.html}

    • Anonymous says:

      That was already posted below, keep up!

    • Anonymous says:

      Is it posted to somehow justify women wanting platonic in the US?

      • TVC15 says:

        No, just for infotainment. Women wanting platonic in the US (or anywhere else) doesn’t require justification.

      • TVC15 says:

        Grammar fail? The women don’t require justification, and the fact they want platonic doesn’t require justification.

    • fundude says:

      That is why 70% of japanese men are “herbivore” men who basically don’t pay or do anything for women lol

      • Josh says:

        There’s no need to worry too much about Johnny the drummer too much.

        You can’t control what she does in 160+ hours a week she is away from you.

        What you can “somewhat” ensure that she is STD clean as of now by getting her tested and that she does not appear to be into drugs, which would put her in the higher risk category.

        Johnny has time on his side. You can’t worry about something you have no control over. What you do want to make sure that Johnny does not pose any physical threat to you AND that he does not influence your schedule with her too much.

  143. ks says:

    Kore13 says: November 27, 2015 at 12:51 pm

    Its unfortunate you only the signs of mentally unstable (male) individual, you will find that mental instability affects both sexes and those who are undecided as their sexuality.

    Yes you have mentioned what “Fucking” to you means. However in a SB/SD Relationship its about mutual needs. Its not all about you. Your life philosophy is also about your views, if you want to share it that’s up to you. I’m unlikely to agree with all of what you have to say but recognize its how you want to live your life. Its important to you. Its not necessarily important to others.

    Your presumptuous assumptions about others may be your idea of a clever putdown but it shows an immaturity, an inexperience of life and a deep-rooted insecurity. Your intuition needs recalibrating. I do know what it feels like to be sexually desired. I was not born mature… When you are older, more experienced, wiser and hopefully richer you will begin to appreciate viewpoints other than your own, but for now you can remain mired in your own world-view. We all have one, but appreciating the viewpoints of others is a gift you don’t display on this blog. Or I have not seen it yet. I understand you don’t give a rat’s ass about the people who don’t find you attractive – and you have a chance with people with people of the same status who feel otherwise! That is your right. By the way, what exactly is that “status”? Frequent flyer status? socio-economic status? How do you define status? Any chance of a status update?

    I’m not fixed on anything having only one outcome, I am well experienced in life to know anything can go pear shaped at any time for no particular reason. So, once again that’s your logical fallacy in reasoning… a failing of which suggests that you are the one in need of reviewing the finer details of social (and emotional)intelligence, not I.

    • ks says:

      apologies for typos.

    • Anonymous says:

      OMFG…don’t apologize for the typos…apologize for the rest of the nonsense.

      • ks says:

        Thanks for sharing. I am also well accustomed to a singular source masquerading behind a myriad of nom de plumes to shape blog sentiment…such is life [shrug]

      • Anonymous says:

        Huh?

      • Anonymous says:

        Lmao

      • Jaybird923 says:

        He’s use to one person writing under several different monikers so they can pretend more people agree or hold the same views as them.

        For God’s sake people, that was written in perfect English. What was so hard to understand? :-))

    • Kore13 says:

      @ks Chill.

      I don’t look at it well when people come to SA and call everyone here, ‘whores,’ especially when it’s they themselves have made this ‘whoring’ possible. That’s simply where all this began.

      If you want my opinion, you’ll have to let ME speak for myself. If you know already know how I am, etc, why bother with a discussion?

      • ks says:

        I do let you speak for yourself. The same privilege also extends to others. I don’t know how you are. I have no need to know. You are free to express your opinions and I am free to express mine. The discussion is on gold diggers, or at least that was the original theme of the article.

        If people want to come to SA and generalize and call everyone Whores and Johns, then free speech means they are entitled to do that, especially on an unmoderated forum (I believe its unmoderated, I cannot recall any disclaimers or rules of use before using). You are equally entitled to tell them why they are wrong.

      • Kore13 says:

        @ks Ok… Let’s try again. Please do away with the verbosity and make some clearer, shorter statements.

        “Its unfortunate you only the signs of mentally unstable…”

        In a previous post, I’d directly lifted what you’d said about being with women and reversed it. I hope you spotted that?

        “I’m unlikely to agree with all of what you have to say..”

        That’s fine by me – it wouldn’t be very fun if everyone agreed with me all the time and it doesn’t provide much room for growth.

        “Your presumptuous assumptions about others…shows an immaturity, an inexperience of life and a deep-rooted insecurity.”

        You don’t find this a bit hyprocrytical?

        “By the way, what exactly is that “status”?”

        You’re right, I picked a ‘bad’ word in my haste. What I meant to say is that I am not attracted to men who have very different values from me, but that I don’t suffer for it. For every man with a certain set of qualities that I don’t like, there is another who does.

        I have left out everything else you’ve typed since it hasn’t or wouldn’t contribute to meaningful discussion.

      • ks says:

        Kore13 says: November 28, 2015 at 5:26 am

        @ks Ok… Let’s try again. Please do away with the verbosity and make some clearer, shorter statements. ANSWER=No. Its my style. IMO is not verbose. That’s your opinion. You are entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to my style.

        “Its unfortunate you only the signs of mentally unstable…”

        In a previous post, I’d directly lifted what you’d said about being with women and reversed it. I hope you spotted that? ANSWER=No, you did not. If you did you would be able to cut and paste and quote it, the same as you did with other aspects of your response. Although, I have been here a short time, I am already well acquainted with your abilities to misinterpret and take things out of context…and not just my prose. So if you have any substantiation of your claim- quote it directly. But you cannot do that…can you? because your claim relies on taking something out of context and interpreting in a way that was not implied or stated. Feel free to prove me wrong.

        “I’m unlikely to agree with all of what you have to say..”

        That’s fine by me – it wouldn’t be very fun if everyone agreed with me all the time and it doesn’t provide much room for growth.

        “Your presumptuous assumptions about others…shows an immaturity, an inexperience of life and a deep-rooted insecurity.”

        You don’t find this a bit hypocritical? ANSWER=No, not given your previous comments and assertions. If you open the door to ad hominem, allow me the right to reciprocate. Or what is good for the goose is also good for the gander…

        “By the way, what exactly is that “status”?”

        You’re right, I picked a ‘bad’ word in my haste. What I meant to say is that I am not attracted to men who have very different values from me, but that I don’t suffer for it. For every man with a certain set of qualities that I don’t like, there is another who does. ANSWER=Agreed.

        I have left out everything else you’ve typed since it hasn’t or wouldn’t contribute to meaningful discussion. ANSWER=Your opinion as to what qualifies as a meaningful discussion is purely your opinion. Others have opinions that differ from your own. My opinion is you are incapable of refuting the points so seek to imply they have no relevance. Its a blog, so I don’t care, allowing the points to stand and not be critiqued adds some validity to their value.

      • Anonymous says:

        Indeed you two need to get a room.

      • Kore13 says:

        Is there are hot/crazy scale for men?

  144. fightthebs says:

    This is the most degrading bs I have ever read.

  145. Anonymous says:

    My SB asked me to come inside her…with the condom of course. I ain’t doing any of that shit.

  146. Anonymous says:

    @ks and @Kore

    Can you two get a room please? I don’t know about others but I have no flipping clue what the fuck the two of you are yapping about.

  147. Anonymous says:

    You may import her from Afghanistan and pay Chipotle as allowance. efbb6c621

    What kind of pose is that…frog?

  148. Anonymous says:

    @Kore13

    “In my eyes (like with the German government), all I see is the change in lifestyle. If your lifestyle won’t be greatly impacted by having to pay for the ex, it isn’t that bad. Then again, if half your assets stops you from buying the home that will house your current family, it’s not good..”

    I think that you have it backwards…

    The alimony and child support is not decided on the basis of how the giver’s life would be impacted. It is decided based on how the recipient’s life would be impacted.

    • Anonymous says:

      *It is decided based on how the recipient’s life would be impacted if they did not receive the desired income/assets.

    • fundude says:

      Germany has different and more fairer laws towards the male in divorce situations.

      Sweden (despite being feminist) has far fairer child support/custody laws and no concept of alimony either.

      The US is literally the worst country for men in terms of marriage laws in the World

    • Kore13 says:

      @Anon from 11:39

      “The alimony and child support is not decided on the basis of how the giver’s life would be impacted. It is decided based on how the recipient’s life would be impacted.”

      *facepalm* Yeah, because, you know, when the aim is to minimise the degradation of a person’s lifestyle, we just flip a coin.

  149. Anonymous says:

    Any other SDs notice a massive decrease (like factor of 4) in SBs recently? Did SA purge?

  150. Anonymous says:

    Does any SB see the value of using SA for securing a sex buddy independent of/in addition to acquisition of assets ? Do any of you do that ?

    The argument against it is “any hot young girl can get laid anytime she wants ”

    I maintain that SA makes a perfect site for random sex because of:
    1) preservation of reputation.
    Sex with a mature man not in the girl’s work or school circuit is safe and accomplishes her goal without exposing her to ridicule as a slut,therefore damaging her value as low volume bride material. Properly selected she can learn invaluable skills in pleasuring men
    2)Asset acquisition:is of course the sine qua non of a sugar site but can be secondary to #1.

    Do you ladies ever do it ? Any SDs have success with free sugar pussy ? Normal dating does not count

    • fundude says:

      Price of “pussy” is dependent on two variables:

      1) Value of the male on the SMP based on physical characteristics. If the male is an attractive male who is in good shape, he will likely pay far less money than some significantly older, fatter, uglier dude.

      2) Value of the female on the marketplace. The lower the value on the marketplace, the less you should consider paying. This is based on age, weight, facial symmetry and partly personality

      2)

    • ks says:

      What do you mean by free sugar pussy? You get married…you pay. You have a mistress…you pay? You have a SB…you pay. You have FWB…you pay. I’m always skeptical of “free” teaser rates…you end up paying more in the end…

      • Horndog says:

        I agree. There is no such thing as free pussy unless you are a college frat banging some frat pledge. Wife, GF, mistress, SB, or escort–we all pay one way or another. It is one of God’s cruel jokes on men. He gave women something men desires very much that he is willing to destroy empires, including his own, to get it.

      • Anonymous says:

        God gave woman something valuable to ensure that 1) she is fed and 2) she procreates.

      • Passion_n_Excitement says:

        Amen

    • Bill says:

      “therefore damaging her value as low volume bride material”
      Did you just come from Red pill on Reddit?

    • Anonymous says:

      Free sugar pussy, bhahaha, learn the concept of ‘sugar’ in that context and not just as a food additive and flavour.

  151. Kore13 says:

    @fundude “You distorted my argument.”

    Or I misunderstood?

    Also, I doubt it’s that easy here to get half the assets. The only people I have spoken with about divorce have split their assets that they both paid equally for. Paying for (3) children wasn’t divided half and half but went solely to whichever parent decided to solely take financial responsibility from the start.

    I’m about to go through the divorce as well, actually, just sent the first bit of papers in. I am not going to make a claim on my ex’s assets. Wouldn’t even mean much – he’s decided be a student again.

    • fundude says:

      1) Assets are split half and half regardless of who brings in more money. Furthermore, if you bring in an inheritance or “pre marriage assets” that are “co-mingled” at any point, its FREE GAME to split 50/50. For instance, if a dude inherits millions of dollars, then uses a portion of it to buy the joint home (marriage home), all of his money is now up for grabs due to it being “co-mingled”. He can only avoid this by setting up a trust before the marriage and NEVER tapping into that money for spending for anything related to the marriage/bills/etc.

      2) Women get the primary custody in >80% of cases. Coupled with the fact that “child support” is determined by the primary breadwinner’s SALARY, you usually get inflated judgements for “child support” that are in far excess of the child’s needs.

      Ergo, the majority of the money goes to the mommy’s “fun times”. There is NO expense account related to how the money is SPENT.

      3) Alimony is often awarded, depending on the length of the marriage. Some states still have LIFETIME alimony for marriages that last 10 years. That is why that is often the magical number for the woman to divorce.

      I often see the woman openly admitting to infidelity at the 10 year mark due to the fact that the beta bucks husband is essentially screwed at that point.

      • ks says:

        Not so sure of the statement that its always half and half. Even in US surely it depends on what state you live in? As for elsewhere in the world its not the case at all. Pre-nuptial agreements change everything especially with or without accrual. IMO if I started with nothing and together we built everything together business, homes, kids, etc, then half and half sounds fair, If both parties had assets prior to going into marriage then a pre-nuptial with or without accrual protects both. When its asymmetrical with one older wealthy partner marrying a young virtually penniless partner then it makes sense to protect the assets from gold-diggers.

      • fundude says:

        @KS

        Prenups are frequently challenged but give some protection. You need two lawyers (one for yourself, one for the future wife). Sometimes prenups are considered “unfair” if you don’t give the wife enough in the prenup, which is dependent on the JUDGE’s opinion.

        I am speaking about US law, not other countries.

        Chinese law, Islamic law, and even most non Anglo European countries have far more pro male laws in terms of marriage.

      • Horndog says:

        Name me any other country in the world except the USA where a woman can marry a man of Monday, divorce him on Friday, and she gets half of everything he owns plus whatever it takes to support the “lifestyle she has been accustomed to”. Marriage is the easiest and fastest way for women to climb the socioeconomic ladder in this country.

      • Kore13 says:

        @Fundude It’s not always ‘pro male’ – it’s just fair.

        If you’re filthy rich as a man and you decided that you could live luxuriously with your wife and so decided to tell her to stop her education so that she could concentrate on children (since money didn’t ‘matter’), then I think it’s fair to at least make sure that she’s covered for a while. Suppose you have new partner that doesn’t want that..

        Things get messy, get complicated… If the man is well off – he can replace the amount of money he looses relatively quickly, it’s not that bad that it’s split 50/50..

        In my eyes (like with the German government), all I see is the change in lifestyle. If your lifestyle won’t be greatly impacted by having to pay for the ex, it isn’t that bad. Then again, if half your assets stops you from buying the home that will house your current family, it’s not good..

      • Kore13 says:

        Not saying that 50-50 is fair no matter what.* Just in some circumstances, not always!

      • Horndog says:

        My favorite sating goes: If it flies, floats, or fucks, it is very to rent it than to buy it. Do not own a plane, a boat, or pussy. Rent a yacht, subscribe to NetJets, and fuck every pussy you can get your dick on but DO NOT wear that piece of jewelry on the fourth finger of your left hand.

      • Horndog says:

        Goddamn hangover. I have so many typos on my posts. LOL.

        I am sure the smart ones can figure it out though.

      • Kore13 says:

        @Horndog Rental’s not always without overseen complications. 😉

        What’s important is to spot a good deal. Rental or bought.

      • fundude says:

        @Kore

        The law doesn’t differentiate if the female support him through thick and thin while he was up and coming.

        There is a HUGE difference between a female who sticks with a guy through his med school/residency days, takes care of the home, kids, etc while not getting much in return. She then divorces approximately 20 years later and takes half the assets. This is somewhat equitable.

        The vast majority of women will marry AFTER the guy has already made the money or is successful. If they “give up their job” its either a bullshit low paying job or something that they didn’t want to do because of the stress. They rather live off the dude’s money.

        The second scenario is very unfair to “split” assets with that type of female.

      • fundude says:

        @KS

        There is no country on the planet with as unjust marriage/divorce laws as the United States.

        Britain is possibly the only one I can think of.

        Even the Nordic countries are far fairer to ex husbands. They have no concepts of alimony. They are much more equitable to the male when distributing assets as well.

      • Passion_n_Excitement says:

        Moral of the story here guys is don’t get married in the US! haha. What fundude says is true unfortunately. I have seen too many buddies get taken to the cleaners.

  152. Lonely Anonymous says:

    capacity to have an intellectual convocation
    Bubbly bimbo with the capacity to have an intellectual convocation!

    Did she copy and paste? Go to collage. It is an actual word.

    • Horndog says:

      Convocation is a formal gathering of people, like a graduation ceremony.

      Maybe she is a party planner? Some of these profiles really crack me up.

      • Kore13 says:

        😀 Lucky mistake.

      • ks says:

        Not everyone’s home language is English. I would give the SB a break, that’s not to say that it would not make me smile viewing such a statement; it would. Did she also do the collage rather than college mistake as well as the convocation one?

  153. ks says:

    @yougottabekiddingme says: November 27, 2015 at 8:53 am

    Thanks. I always liked Happy Endings.

  154. Anonymous says:

    “Numbers are seriously dropping”
    The last new SB profile in Central Va (USA for our non US friends) was 1 week ago. That is a marked drop for this area full of colleges .

    • Anonymous says:

      Roboprofiles have been turned off. Remember there were SBs signing up with Molly 234, Sally 786, etc., type of monikers?

      • Lonely Anonymous says:

        I have always assumed that big increases were the effects of media promotion, a documentary, magazine or newspaper article. But honestly, I am now sceptical. Do girls copy only a few recommended profile suggestions? I now see so many similarities in descriptions, email responses etc.

  155. ks says:

    elaine says: November 27, 2015 at 5:38 am

    @Elaine
    I agree there are drawbacks to any rating system, especially on the retribution element, but it works both ways SD and SB can rate each other and they must pay for each rating they give, no free ratings. It would be similar to the Trip Adviser ratings, or even Ebay on its transaction rating system. I agree completely that for a startup site with a mixture of fake and real profiles a ratings system would make no sense, but as a revenue stream for an established site it could work. An SB might want to rate an SD salty because he offers a number far below her expectations and he has a right to reply on her review. An SD might want to rate an SB a gold digger because she did not meet her agreed commitments but she wants an advance on her allowance and she gets right of reply. Generally on TripAdviser I steer clear of hotels with an overwhelming average number of negative reviews and on Ebay of vendors with a lot of negative ratings. I see a ratings system as a potential time saver. It may not be 100% correct but as an indicator of real profiles, real transactions and keeping safe it has some use.

    • Lonely Anonymous says:

      What would stop me creating SB profiles or getting female friends to join and giving me a 5 star rating? It’s not fool proof.

      • ks says:

        Nothing stops you. There is no such thing as a foolproof system. If you want to create 100’s of fake profiles and spend hundred or thousands of dollars rating a specific profile upwards or downwards that’s your choice. Maybe the owner of that profile abandons and creates a new one. Do you want to start again rating the new profile once you have found it? As a revenue stream it could work if people love themselves or hate others enough. There will always be abusers. A ratings system goes some way to identifying them. Credit card transactions to fund the ratings give the authorities at least some leads to identification of those who go too far.

  156. joe says:

    Bad trying to find a decent sugar baby as a gay man. All seem to be bottom feeders and moochers and yet most play games when pressed to meet, yet they want money for everything in advance. Its a sad site.

    • Josh says:

      Sorry to hear that you’re having difficulty…same as hetro SDs are.

    • Kore13 says:

      @joe find someone on okc, pay them.

      • Kore13 says:

        That was put crudely, but you get the gist.

        The reason I suggested this is because you can at least find someone who has similar values as you, etc. Whereas on SA, it’s hard to know beforehand.

    • Anonymous says:

      Hmmm. If he finds someone on OKC why does he need to pay still?

      • Kore13 says:

        He’s looking for a SB. That’s why.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Find him for free, pay to keep him. Am thinking the approach would be more similar to that of a generous relationship/companionship than an arrangement as might be discussed having met on the site.

      • Kore13 says:

        @YGTBKM Yes, or it even that being the ‘bait,’ but it’s sad to look at it that way. :/

    • fundude says:

      Why do you need a “sugar baby” as a homosexual male?

      Just go to a bathhouse, they give up sex for free consistently. There is no need to pay unless you are really unattractive.

      • Kore13 says:

        @Fundude You’ve killed two birds with one stone. Don’t stoop to this lowness. :(

      • Horndog says:

        SA is not fertile grounds for hunting male homosexual partners. You would not go to the middle of the ocean to hunt for grizzly bears would you?

      • Kore13 says:

        @Horndog

        ………………………………

        If grizzly bears were found in the middle of the ocean comapred to other bodies of water, yes I would. -_-

      • Kore13 says:

        I haven’t been to exclusively gay dating sites, but okc is liberal enough.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        FunDude…two questions:

        1) Have you ever been to a bathhouse?

        2) Have you ever been a homosexual male?

  157. fundude says:

    Reasons why women in the US often remain with “abusive men” instead of “nice guys”:

    {{http://www.returnofkings.com/74207/3-reasons-women-stay-with-abusive-men}}

    • Anonymous says:

      Before I even read the article I knew the reason…drama.

      Why do women watch soap operas?…drama.

      No drama = boring = she’s outta there.

      • fundude says:

        Partly its “excitement”, partly because most Western men are weak manginas.

        Sine they mostly kiss female ass their whole lives, these “abusive men” are the only ones who don’t just take their shit.

        This is often attractive to a female subconsciously.

        Ergo, being a weak feminized male keeps the vagina dry.

      • Kore13 says:

        @Fundude Being kissed anywhere is a nice feeling, you know it’s true.. 😀

      • fundude says:

        They don’t get to kiss their ass literally only figuratively lol.

        I prefer other places kissed better.

      • Kore13 says:

        @fundude :)

    • Anonymous says:

      What men need to learn is to give her right amount of drama. Too little drama she’s bored…too much drama the man is in trouble with the authorities.

      • Kore13 says:

        If you want a totally perdictable doormat.. Everyone likes a challenge now and then. 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        I don’t know what you are referring to.

        I’d rather have boring woman with wet pussy than a crazy woman with any kind of pussy. But that’s just me.

      • Kore13 says:

        Only that ‘crazy women’ a

      • Kore13 says:

        are more often viewed in a negative light.

        Ok, being ‘crazy,’ (which differs from woman to woman in degree) isn’t the best, but neither is someone who isn’t challenging at all. At least, I don’t want a totally ‘simple’ LT partner… I’d rather, even, that my ONS is with someone memorable character than with someone who’s got ‘little’ personality.

      • Anonymous says:

        I like challenge in bed. Bring it on. Other than that…

  158. fundude says:

    Great video about “sugar babies”:

    {{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HgC9Z3uzPgY&feature=youtu.be}}

    At least these bitches are hot. If you watch the video, many of them get the boot when they don’t have sex with the dudes.

    They greatly exaggerate their prowess when you watch them in real interactions with men. One dude just left the woman despite her coming into another country to meet him.