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Managing Multiple Sugar Babies
  • Posted Oct 28, 2015

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Slowly but surely, society is coming to the realization that monogamy isn’t the norm for everyone. We’re all about helping you manage your relationships, even if that means more than one. It’s not cheating if you’re honest, right?

The stereotype of men who date multiple women is that they’re players, or womanizers. While that does describe some men, it isn’t always true. A man can date multiple women and still treat them as a gentleman should, all without letting the intake effect the quality of his dating game. Here are some tips for managing multiple Sugar Babies.

Set your boundaries.

From the very beginning, she needs to know you are not going to be in a monogamous relationship. Provided you are safe and honest, this should not be a problem for most Sugar Babies. Especially when you have several women you’re talking to, setting boundaries for how much time you can spend with her and when is appropriate to make contact are essential.

Tell the truth.

Your first instinct when playing the field might be to lie, telling each girl she’s the only one for you. Dating multiple women doesn’t make you a douche, but lying to them absolutely does. Many Sugar Babies also want to date around, and hearing that you want the same can be a relief. Keeping the lines of communication open, and letting her know exactly what the relationship is and isn’t will save you from drama down the road.

Keep open communication.

Creating a functional open relationship means having uncomfortable conversations. Even if you are clear in the beginning that you aren’t exclusive, friendly reminders help avoid heartbreak and drama developing down the road. She could assume that you will change your mind eventually. Maybe that is the case, but if it’s not, you need to be clear and unashamed of your decisions to see other people.

Make room for mystery.

Having an open communication policy is always good, but making contact everyday can get confusing in a relationship that is not exclusive. Let her wonder where you are and what you’re doing, and don’t text or call everyday. If you don’t have time to talk everyday, make this clear from the start and hope she understands. If you do talk everyday, it’s acceptable provided she knows that will not make the relationship exclusive.

Get your mind straight.

Why do you want to date multiple women? Because you want to explore the bevy of potential partners? Or because you love the attention? Decide for yourself why you are doing this so you can clearly articulate it to her. That way, when she asks the tough questions like “Why am I not enough?” you can have the clear conscience to say something noble and comforting. May I suggest: “You are important to me, and I would like to keep spending time with you. The fact that I want to also see other people has no implications on my feelings for you.”

Be a gentleman.

You can be dating as many women as you want, and as long as you treat them well you won’t hear a single complaint. Having options doesn’t entitle you to be a jerk because you know you have a dozen replacements. Give her attention and favorable treatment at all times, that way she’ll like you too much to call things off, even if she wants exclusivity.

Keep things open and be sure to lay the foundation for an honest relationship from the start. After all, you want her to hate the game, not the player.

How do you manage multiple Sugar Babies?

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1,382 Responses to “Managing Multiple Sugar Babies”

  1. Candy says:

    Telling the truth is by far the best advice! If you get caught in a lie you will lose all her trust. withsomesugarontop.com

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  3. MightBeTrouble says:

    There are some non-monogamous sugar babies out there. I love sharing my naughty stories just as much as I love hearing yours.

    • THEATLSD says:

      Your rack might be trouble. Damn nice.
      The purple hair not so much.

      • Fairy queen Ivy says:

        Purple hair can be sexy, Anakin, this hoe just can’t do it right.
        no offense boobie girl, you got other things going for ya that I will never have believe me.

      • ATLSD says:

        Well Houdini Jr. You are correct I don’t mind highlights if they are subtle. Not total dye jobs as in yourself. I prefer not to be the topic of others conversations. To each their own.
        May the force be with you

      • MightBeTrouble says:

        Thanks for the feedback Fairy queen Ivy, but there’s no need to be rude about it.

    • BonJoviFan says:

      If someone can get “career dollars” in the sugar world…$5 to $10k a month, good for you! But there is simply a lot of demand for shorter term arrangements. Never been a problem really.
      And MightBeTrouble, would be incredible to meet you :)

      • MightBeTrouble says:

        BonJoviFan, I don’t believe I said anything against shorter arrangements. I’d love to hear from you if you’re around.

  4. PatrickKC says:

    Does anyone know of a good blog for Kansas City SBs?

  5. ambitiousbabe26 says:

    Im appalled to read the comments from some SDs.
    I naively believed that an arrangement should include a rich generous (older) Gentleman and a (younger) gorgeous lady (with the look above average). A Gentleman should approach the Lady with his offer if an arrangement: practical and financial. Arrangement is not platonic only of course!
    If he is expecting the arrangement to be exclusive , the allowance can’t be less then 7000GBP/month.
    If non exclusive-it can’t be less then 3500GBP/month (its not worth spending time otherwise)

    Im here for a week only but i feel that there are many guys how just want to have a free NSA f**k and it makes me very angry. Seems those guys just underestimate womens intellectual capacity.

    I know of arrangements that last for years and gentleman is very decent and generous.
    The lady was very accommodative and ready to please.
    Hope to meet more serious people like that here!

    • noname says:

      ambitiousbabe your profile sounds nice but i see some problems with it 7000 is more than 10000 US i don’t think they’re many SD willing to pay that and those who would be able to afford that they would want you to be available whenever they wanted to see you are you able to provide that there is no right or wrong amount for a a allowance its whatever makes you happy so if thats what it takes to make you happy stick to it just be prepared for a long wait good luck

    • Dr. Austin says:

      I amuses me that you are appalled that many arrangements are not what you desire in an arrangement. I have encounter several ladies that what big money and expect an arrangement on this site to fit their definition. I have numerous very fulling arrangements. I can not for the life of me understand why any man would want to spend $10,000 per month for a girl to hang out with on occasion. Many ladies are perfectly happy to have an NSA occasional friend to hang out with for $200-300 per date. MANY ladies, so don’t be angry simply understand arrangements are all different. I have 4-6 hours a month to spend with my arrangement girl friend, and we have a great time. She is happy, I’m happy it just works.
      Doc Austin

      • Horndog says:

        Anything less than 10K/mo is considered salty by definition of most SB’s. Did you not know that?

        You might as well change your name to Dr. NaCl

      • Anonymous says:

        Why do I get the feeling that your ‘arrangement’ is only about intimacy?

      • Dr. Austin says:

        Its absolutely about mind blowing intense vigorous intimacy from a submissive and receptive young lady, and I make that perfectly clear. That is what I’m into, and I can make an arrangement short term with dozens of ladies within 25 miles of my location that are perfectly happy to have a physically fit muscular handsome friend in his middle 40’s to hook up with on occasion. My current arrangement i’ve been seeing for a year and we have become good friends.

        Doc NaCl

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        @Anon — his arrangement is all about intimacy for the same reason SBs are all out the money.

      • Anonymous says:

        Why bother bashing someone’s expectation. If you can’t fit that it’s ok and it’s also great that you are able to find genuine Sbs and have a suitable arrangement that works for you. Don’t shoot down someone’s expectation. It’s the same as a Sb saying you should go platonic. Yeah, not good right?

      • Dr. Austin says:

        I wasn’t bashing her expectations………..more power to her if she gets what she is looking for. I have an numerous ladies contact me, and when I describe the arrangement I want they bash me and tell me to get off the site and go to backpage, lol. Which I find funny because I have been very successful finding my type of arrangements while they have not been finding theirs so the site is very well suited to me.

      • Proper says:

        What you’re seeking is a personal escort. Please don’t consider yourself to be a SD. By definition you are salt. You are not looking to be anything but sexual with a girl. You really should go to an escort agency but you are a cheap john. The girls who ask of 10k a month know their worth. They are know what a real sugar daddy is. Clearly you do not,

    • Bruce Wayne says:

      Ambitiousbabe26 – it appears that English isn’t your first language, so I suggest that you have someone edit your profile, or that you take some time to correct the typos and grammatical errors. Also, you appear to be a stunning woman in the ONE professional photo that is on your profile. I would suggest adding a few candid shots (with your friends cropped out). Many professional photos are photoshopped, so I take them with a grain of salt.

      As Dr. Austin suggests, there are plenty of very attractive women that will take significantly less support than you are seeking. It is going to take a long time to find someone willing to consistently provide the support you are seeking.

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes there are many of those who offer p4p, per weekly, biweekly, minimal even though you clearly have a different category and just the plain delusional ones. Gotta do some vetting through to find a suitable and genuine SD and have a great arrangement with him.

  6. Leyla1016 says:

    Hey check out my profile and message me if you like what you see 😉

  7. Steve says:

    This site is excellent for meeting and banging hot 19 year old girls without feeling any sort of attachment. Plus you can do as many as you can in a month and see the same one twice. AWESOME

  8. Hahaha…. Funny stuff, most of the SD’s get scared when you know to much about cars and music and not to mention Ufc. Telling the true is what the guy’s best interest are…

  9. The Riddler says:

    What is Popeye’s favorite remedy when his dick is sore and swollen?

  10. cindymay says:

    I don’t understand why SDs have blocksd me. It seems we are having a conversation and out of nowhere they block me. Why not just say, sorry I’m no longer interested?

  11. LUV2 says:

    I have come to my own conclusion that with the gentlemen that I have met lately. Just because he’s listed as Negotiable, Minimal or Practical doesn’t mean you are the only one. He rather spread out the monthly allowance for several woman than for just one. I recently had a meeting with one and of course I ask the typical question, So Have yo been in arrangement before. He said who’s to say I’m not in one now and seeing several girls. Then he stated if he choose me the most he pays anyone for meeting is $200. So that $200 per who knows how many girls he’s seeing per month. I will not sit back and wait my turn for $200 its not what an arrangement is suppose to be about. This was the 3rd meeting that resulted trying to meet a few times a month for very minimal after that I been on so I decided to paused my account for a while was so frustrating. Some men are trying to use this site as a alternative than see escorting. They would have better luck going in that direction.

    • noname says:

      luv2 the regular bloggers are on the most recent blog i think it sugar daddy grooming guide

    • Anonymous says:

      200, is that even for real, these ‘men’ are truly a laughing stock. LOL

      • Anonymous says:

        $200 ? Spoiled little brats. If you see your Daddy once/week that is $800 monthly.Easily $10,000 yearly with a few extra visits per month. How much is your rent ?

        Some SDs are looking for a different girl every time a la escort-like activity ,but many are looking for one special girl and can’t afford more . So I know every girl is looking for the Prince Charming to sweep her off her feet ,get her out of the ashes ,and buy her a mansion,yacht ,and a Ferrari, but covering your rent and/or special treats, dinners out ,etc is not so bad .

      • Anonymous says:

        BTW Anon -whoever. These girls are laughing all the way to the bank. Are you ? Maybe Anon is an SD who pays $5K/month. Get busy taking these Babies out and stop criticizing others.

    • Dr. Austin says:

      Of course this site is an alternative to escorting. A very good alternative with plenty of options. I wouldn’t say SOME men are using it for that, I’d say MOST men are using it for that. I am part of an information board where hundreds of men share their SA experiences and even link profiles with prices that are accepted, and further information. So, many girls don’t even realize that guys are contacting them with offers because their buddies posted that she was a good time.

      • Anon says:

        Ugh, you are such salt. Makes me sick to my stomach.

      • monday says:

        what website is this?

      • clea says:

        @Monday It’s this site: [http://www.gfeclub.com/forum/showthread.php?330345-Seeking-Arrangement-guys-lets-talk]

        You need to register in order to view the site.

        and also this site:

        [https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-21493.html]

        You do not need to register in order to view the thread above.

  12. THEATLSD says:

    New blog peeps.
    Your welcome

  13. Real SD says:

    Another example of the schizophrenic nature of SA. They seem to publicly advertise the “platonic” nature of the sugar arrangement. Yet when they publish blog topics such as this one, the picture they use is a naked older man in bed with 3 naked women hugging him. Sure, that arrangement looks like platonic to me. Those 3 fucked his brains out and he looks content. Discuss.

    • Anonymous says:

      They cannot advertise ‘sex’ that would mean exchanging money for sex and would be investigated. It’s illegal. So it works as a front.

    • Nemo says:

      They do not advertise platonic as such but equivalent of a good marriage actually lol As in the guy would expect to get physical but you would be totally taken care of. Now with the multiple SBs one might wonder if the guy could only come up with some sort of ice cream money v full care …. :/

  14. Kore says:

    I have a question that I’d like the SDs to answer honestly. Some have already mentioned something about this..

    Do you hate the self-entitlement thing in general, or is justified when it comes from a 10/10 bombshell?

    I just scrolled past some SB profiles who listed their ‘lifestyle expectation’ as high. Most of them are pretty and a few of them are really the type of girls who might be a playmate to the very rich SD.

    I’ve changed my budget from negotiable to minimal from one blogger’s advice saying that I don’t stand out. I’ve noticed these changes – I don’t get much more interest from new SDs than I’d previously had (with the exception of some previous ones who still write me).

    I’ve said countless times that I don’t like equating allowance to the value of a person. Nevertheless, I feel like for my looks (yeah, fuck, I have to put it this way), I could come across as the naiive target for a pump&dumper. Even when I used to be negotiable, one guy wouldn’t believe my pictures were mine.. :/

    To sum it up: Would a POT overlook me because he thinks I’m cheap/fishy from the allowance expectation?

    • Anonymous says:

      I think you have a better chance being overlooked if you list your expectation as substantial or high, not minimal, many sd’s filter out the substantial and high girls

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        I don’t search minimal for the reasons I listed below. I tend to agree with Anon above though — most SDs don’t search in the High or Substantial

      • Anonymous says:

        Well, each to their own Anon. If that SD isn’t looking, there are plenty of others. Everyone should go with what they can afford and feel like is right for that particular person.

    • Real SD says:

      Few women qualify for the HIGH Expectation. Do you realize that is 10K and above per month TAX FREE. Do you know how much an SD would have to make pre-tax to supply an SB 120K+ per year? We just think a lot of women are completely unrealistic. What really irks us is on top of the high expectation they expect the arrangement to be platonic.

      • Anonymous says:

        The minimal girls I have talked to all seem to be realistic and interested in having a mutual agreement, and are not self entitled

      • Anonymous says:

        Kore said it herself, the best playmates for the very rich and powerful.

      • Kore says:

        Yes, sure. The very rich and powerful can afford some sperm dumpsters. I don’t envy those SBs that. 😉

      • Beauty Expert says:

        Kore why are you bashing high SBs? If you don’t like it that’s ok but to insult them is awful. It seems to me that you’re jealous and envious because they’re prettier than you. You said it yourself. Women…

      • Anonymous says:

        Kore why are you bashing high SBs? If you don’t like it that’s ok but to insult them is awful. It seems to me that you’re jealous and envious because they’re prettier than you. You said it yourself. Women…

      • Kore says:

        @Beauty I have no reason to be – I don’t compare my looks with other girls.’ I just think that there are very few SBs who can pull off a minimum 8K€ a month for their looks.

        If they do, I’m guessing they aren’t going to be the only SB. Else they’d be wived up?

      • Sweetest Sugar baby says:

        They should get a job and not completely rely on a Sugar Daddy. My allowances all go to my savings.

    • Anonymous says:

      If you were influenced that easily by an anonymous person on the blog that you had to change your expectation, means that you’re naive. You should think your own and hold your own. That person for all we know could have been one of those who want everyone to have minimal listed. If you had negotiable at first and thought you didn’t need more than minimal, then that is alright. But to say you were influenced by a character on the blog is another thing. Good luck.

      • Kore says:

        At that point, I was pretty new. Of course, if I see some reasonable advice, I will test it out. I’m not a delusional pro who came onto SA with a superiority complex.

        Since when did negotiable mean less than minimal?

      • Real SD says:

        Negotiable does not mean less than Minimal. Negotiable is anything from free to infinity.

      • Kore says:

        @Real Did you read what the anon I’d directed my comment at wrote closely enough?

      • Real SD says:

        That is why IMO all the categories are useless. There should be no “lifestyle expectation”. Everything is negotiable.

      • Kore says:

        Agreed. It’s not like the allowance expectation has reduced the amount of negotiation between many, from the looks of it.

      • Anonymous says:

        I’ll excuse you, English is not your first language.
        I quote: ‘If you had negotiable at first and thought you didn’t need more than minimal, then that is alright.’ meaning you went from negotiable to minimal, not it’s the same. Got it?

      • Kore says:

        @Anon Thanks for excusing me – after all, elementary and middle schools in the U.S. must not have taught me English very well. The British school I’d attended afterwards must not count either. 😉

        I’ve grown up speaking English my whole life and I can only speak German besides that. Sorry to rain on your parade, but nice try, though.

        Yeah, my needs have nothing to do with this. If you’d understood that, then you’d understand also, why I switched budgets.

    • Anonymous says:

      Somebody said it before that the expectations are measured by looks/appearance. If you have too many shortcomings, it’s best not to try your luck with the high, on the contrary if you’re really good looking, adorable, sexy, smart and caring you might list high if you feel like you’d be able to pull it off with the meetings and requirements.

      • Kore says:

        “on the contrary if you’re really good looking, adorable, sexy, smart and caring”

        Sure, but I can’t tell with looks. I see a 10/10 guy (for me) at the most, 3 times a year. But I haven’t spoken with one since being single. How am I supposed to know when it comes to being out of or within league?

    • Gentle soul says:

      @Kore -I don’t specify at all . I look at all comers and many Highs are negotiable anyway. Actually as pretty as you are I would definitely hit you up if we were in the same area.

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        I agree with Real SD — I just wish they would get rid of all the categories.

      • Real SD says:

        The High expectation gives SB’s an unrealistic sense of entitlement. The Minimal expectations cheapens them and is insulting. The categories are worthless. An SD will determine your allowance once he meets you in person. What you write down on your profile is meaningless. Negotiable. Negotiable.

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        Just like in every day business, everything is negotiable.

      • Kore says:

        @Gentle As much as I get that curiosity about looks can stop you from eliminating some allowance brackets, I’m also pretty sure that quite a few men don’t want to feel bad about the types of girls they can’t afford…

        Or can any other SD tell me if negotiation with high expectation has worked out?

        Has it for you, Gentle?

      • Anonymous says:

        How do you know if Kore is pretty?

      • Anonymous says:

        seen her pics, kore is quite beautiful

      • Gentle Soul says:

        I’m confidant that @ Kore’s Avatar is truly her.

        Yes Doll ,I have had success with High and Moderate SBs at a much lower rate .My target budget is up to Practical ,but some smart and un-entitled SBs are willing to negotiate a lower rate while they are trying to find their Golden Goose to pluck

      • Kore says:

        @Gentle @Anon Thank you. :)

        @Gentle Glad to hear. Most posters have only mentioned that they think the high budget girls seem high maintenance. Didn’t hear of any actually having had a high budget SB.

    • Nemo says:

      Depends on what you really want. I would not put up with a “minimal” SD, just no way, a minimal SD would have to be single, start with minimal on platonic basis and marry if he is generally agreeable and has a house to share and has great prospects. I have my own idea of what I want and I do not mind refusing people who are not my type or cannot provide the level of care I want for putting up with an “alpha”. They all fancy they are “alphas”, even the obese poor ones lol

    • noname says:

      kore i can no longer look at your profile but when i could look at it it was fine many of the SD on this site will just ignore the ones asking for high they are not worth it the best ones are in the praticial and moderate your a nice looking lady but i think you will have a hard time because you have a lot of competion so keeping it at minimal is better if someone really likes you there is room to go up and it gives you a edge over the others

      • Anonymous says:

        While I agree what you have to say about the categories, high truly does have some pretty beautiful young girls. Well, you don’t have to pay to look huh.

      • Kore13 says:

        @noname I stopped posting through my account thinking I’d have some SBs lifting text off my profile. I guess it shouldn’t make a difference once the SD starts a chat..

        I’m going to upload better pictures in the future and see what happens with different budget amounts.

      • noname says:

        thats good kore everything here is trial and error if something is not working move on and try something else good luck

      • Kore13 says:

        @noname Thank you :)

      • Hey @noname how did it feel when spongebob caught’ya 😛

  15. Anonymous says:

    Look at this profile. Like sec job, whaaat?
    ed4b13421

    • Real SD says:

      Why the fuck do you look at or care about profiles from stinky butt fuck 3rd world countries like India?

      • Anonymous says:

        stinky butt fuck lmfao

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        So rude and pitiful…and ignorant.

        India is beautiful, and so are it’s people.

        You suck.

      • Anonymous says:

        The people are gross and stinky just like their food. 75% of the meals resemble diarrhea or what you find in a baby’s diaper.

      • Bozo says:

        Why pay SB in India? I thought men just rape. Gang rape is the national sport.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Bozo he doesn’t want sex, he wants sec. Maybe a second?

      • BentleyBoy2014 says:

        @Real SD
        pitiful…and ignorant. If you had a education you should know terms like 1st world and 3rd are old school. Your probably just a 16 yr old keyboard warrior.

      • IHF2030 says:

        India is indeed a vile shit hole. That’s why so many Indians leave to become immigrants in western countries.

      • Real SD says:

        “Your probably just a 16 yr old keyboard warrior.”

        Yeah but I’m a 16 yr old keyboard warrior who knows the difference between “your” and “you’re”.

      • Cryptic Anomaly says:

        @Bentley Boy – If you had AN Education you would have known to use AN instead of A. Not to mention you wouldn’t have contradicted yourself by calling someone Old School and then calling them a 16 year old.

        In the REAL WORLD, Third World and First World are still very real terms, no matter how much the Leftist idiots like to play with words and their meanings.

      • Real SD says:

        India is definitely a THIRD world country. Have you been there? Saw buses filled with like 300 people! On the roof, hanging over the sides, etc. A country with 1 billion stinky people. Just like North Korea they have nukes but can’t feed their masses.

      • BentleyBoy2014 says:

        @Real SD
        Your right, i was there when I was 15 and haven’t had desire to go back. Maybe visit Goa which is very western. I’m Canadian so technically unless your a native, everyone is from some immigrant background. You have all valid points.

        @Cryptic Anomaly
        I must be too naive. I rather enjoy making money, fuck bitches. Their plenty of people who have a very good education who cant get a job. Money runs the world.

      • Anonymous says:

        India is like China was 15 years ago, Japan was 40 years ago: the average income is relatively low, but growing at high single to low double digits. The tiny minority of super rich can really get rich fast thanks to low labor cost and very motivated labor who see their income also rising fast. If you are in your 20’s as a young man, you’d grow fabulously rich much more quickly working as an expat in those countries during their rapid growth phase than in developed countries where the economy grows at less than 3% but tax you at more than 30%.

      • Bozo says:

        @ Real SD says: India is definitely a THIRD world country.

        I second that! And don’t forget (gang) rape is an epidemic there. I had a colleague who brought his wife there on a business trip. The local men were salivating at the wife, coping a feel. Luckily she didn’t get raped but she never felt safe.

  16. Anonymous says:

    Minimal’s a joke. Why do they even put it there if there are less than 50 takers in my region.

    • Anonymous says:

      What’s your point?

      Are you SB or SD?

      Minimal works awesome in my geographical area.

      • Anonymous says:

        In my area there are only 42 SBs with the minimal expectation. Most just have the negotiable, practical or moderate categories.

      • Anonymous says:

        Minimals are very easy to work with…not necessarily from money point of view but also they are down to earth.

        Avoid Moderate-High. They are pretty much scammers, rinsers, princesses.

        You may be able to work something out with practical and negotiable.

      • Anonymous says:

        It’s so hard competing with these men who high expectations that’s why I created a fake sb account.
        I haven’t found a sb yet. Some don’t call back or answer after we message.
        Maybe I should change my expectation offer.

      • Real SD says:

        They should just remove all the different categories and make everything Negotiable. Life is nothing but a series of negotiations. The High category does nothing but attract platonic princesses. I have seen a lot of profiles with Minimal and Practical that are way more interesting.

      • Anonymous says:

        As an SB I have high listed but I would never offer platonic, to think that is just stupid.

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        I stick with negotiable and practical in my location. Most of the “minimals” I have seen are hookers quoting their hourly rate, women looking for bfs or husbands, or very unattractive women.

  17. THEATLSD says:

    I decided to unhide my profile, I hid it last April. The IRL POT SB are not developing as I had hoped, so I wanted to test the waters before paying again. First message I received was from an Escort, the second was from a Cam/Skype girl in the U.K., third was from a strange cookie, dressed in some kind of Indian/Hawaiian outfit, fourth was from a arm candy platonic tumblr type. Not off to a good start, but reinforces what we all have been talking about.

    • elaine says:

      Poor @ATLSD…

      Time to come to Europe 😉

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        Europe…the place where the SD’s are younger than the SB’s…sounds like a place to avoid if you ask me!

      • elaine says:

        Yes, but nobody asks you Fat. :-)

      • Anonymous says:

        Lol @Fat have you ever done a search for the SBs in Europe? If not please consider it. Much more ‘quality’ over here.

      • elaine says:

        First: it was just a personal joke to ATLSD

        Second: I don’t know if there is more quality as far as SBs concerned, but i immagine there is less entitlement, rinsers and “princesses” because sugar is not yet mainstream here as it is in the US.

        Third: Don’t know why it is such an issue for Fat when my Sds sometimes are younger. Sour grapes?

      • Kore says:

        @Fat Not every older woman here is your female counterpart. 😀

      • Kore says:

        @Elaine We’ve got the UK..

      • Anonymous says:

        Too bad we do not have good European ‘SDs’.

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        I travel to Europe quite a bit, and had an SB there. I found the women over there to be more mature for their age, less entitled, and more aware of world events (other than what the Kardashians were doing). The quality was significantly higher, but the market hasn’t been ruined by trash tv and social media yet.

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        p.s. I used to think FB was funny. Now I just think he is bitter.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Elaine

        I have never desired an older SB so I do not envy your SD’s…I do feel sorry for them though!

        Have a nice day :-)

      • elaine says:

        @Kore

        Sure, we have the Uk, but in general “Sugar” is not mainstream in Europe.
        I think the situation here is like how it was say 5 years ago in US.

        Quite a small group of people knowing about it and using it.

        And we DO have some very good European SD’s too!

      • elaine says:

        Don’t feel sorry for them @Fatty.
        They are very happy with me.

        Unlike you, with your young SBs. :-)

        Cheers

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Bruce Wayne

        I used to think you were an ass…I still think you are an ass.

        Have a nice day :-)

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Elaine

        No more young SB’s for me. Reading the blog convinced me that going MGTOW is the answer to all of my problems.

        Why do I have this attitude about older SB’s you ask…If I wanted to look at a wrinkly fat body I could just stare into a mirror.

      • elaine says:

        @fat

        You very well know I am not a wrinkly fat body.

      • Kore says:

        @Elaine Yes, very true.

        @Bruce We have our share of those as well. Perhaps just not as many.

        @Fat …?

        @Anon Yeah right.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Elaine,

        I don’t remember receiving any nude pictures of you so I cannot confirm or deny you claim.

      • elaine says:

        @Fat

        You don’t need NUDE pictures to know if someone is fat or wrinkly.

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Elaine

        SD’s want to see full body shots of a SB for a reason.

        Have a nice day :-)

      • elaine says:

        Check your mail Fat.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Fat Full body shots and nude body shots differ.
        Next time the company asks me for a full body shot, I’m just
        gonna send a nude one of me laying in my bed. :)

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Anonymous

        I am scared to ask what “company” you work for…next time someone asks me for a full body shot I will have to go out and buy a wide angle lens…

  18. Anonymous says:

    Why is this blog so damn addictive?

    • Anonymous says:

      Raw conversation about pussy and money?

      • Anonymous says:

        Hey guys.
        I am just starting as a SB and my question is regarding the nature of the arrangements.
        My SD is great but he’s become a little bit too dominant both intimate and normally, and when we talked about it said that it works this way and has always worked like that in the past.

        Are sugar arrangements about dom/sub play and I have nothing to worry about or is he using it just as an excuse?

      • Kore says:

        If you’re not roleplaying as a doormat, what difference would it make whethre it’s from the sugar bowl or not? This life isn’t from another universe.

      • Anonymous says:

        He’s your employer…do you have problem with that?

      • Anonymous says:

        If you act as “strong, independent” woman here then you’ll pretty much eat shit here.

        I know that as soon as this comment hit the blog some woman is going to comment that “some men” like dominant women…and we know that some men are into scat.

      • Anonymous says:

        No that’s not the way an arrangement should be unless you’d like and want it that way. If you’re not comfortable just say no. He sounds like a freak. And to the anon above, yes there are people who get off on these dom sub scat stuff but fortunately just a few.
        Look for a normal arrangement with a normal man.

      • Bruce Wayne says:

        No not all SDs are like that. I wouldn’t recommend doing anything you aren’t comfortable with.

      • Kore says:

        “I know that as soon as this comment hit the blog some woman is going to comment that “some men” like dominant women…and we know that some men are into scat.”

        What are you into? Insecurity?

        You can prey on the weak until the shit hits the fan and you end up in court.

      • elaine says:

        “Are sugar arrangements about dom/sub play”

        Gosh…what do you think yourself?

        Are all “normal” relationships about dom/sub play?

      • Anonymous says:

        @ Anon with dominant agressive sd
        Send him my way….

        Arrangements are what works for both people, they are not for someone to coerce you to do ANYTHING you don’t want to do.

        Personally, though, I tend to seek out the more aggressive, assertive dominant types, so feel free to send him my way…

      • Anonymous says:

        Um, gonna revise my statement there.

        Open to D/s under hard limits
        NO:
        Age play
        stretching of the parts
        cutting in any form
        Rimming of any kind
        No fecal or urine play
        Blood play
        Bukkake
        casting
        dackryphilia
        Fire play
        hooks
        Gorean
        enemas
        pet play
        parent play
        pony/piggy/other form of animal play
        queening
        spitting
        staples
        anything having to do with toilet
        trans
        water torture or bondage
        Any attempt of eternity or slave collaring, branding scarification, or cell popping – period – ever – at all. DON’T LET SOMEONE DO THIS. THIS IS A PERMANENT OWNERSHIP THING WHICH YOU CANNOT REMOVE OR REVOKE IN SOME CASES.

        So, if any of my hard limits are unacceptable, don’t send my way. lol. Not into crazy.

      • Dovetail says:

        Eventually I’ll remember to log in before posting.

        I suggest you do your homework before entering into any BDSM arrangements. You don’t want to end up consenting to something you don’t understand, fully. There are some so called “doms” who don’t act like a proper dom at all and will coerce or twist things to suit their agenda. Be very careful in this environment and always remember, no Dom worth his salt will ever go against the Creed, nor breach ssc (sAFE SANE CONSENTUAL). A dominant that crosses these lines is generally outcast/frowned upon/without respect.

        Remember, also, that should you find a fitting dominant, it is your duty to always remember with gravity that as a submissive, you are a direct reflection upon him at all times.

      • Dovetail says:

        Aside form kinky play, which isn’t typically taken very seriously as true D/s, you need to fully understand what you’re getting into. Fetlife won’t do that for you.

        The Dominants creed

        Above all, He cherishes His submissive, in the knowledge that the gift of her submission is the deepest, truest form of love. He is demanding and takes full advantage of the power given to Him, but He knows that the sharing of the pleasure that comes from that precious gift is what makes Him worthy to receive it.
        He is in control of Himself first and foremost, so that He may control His submissive. As a strong and demanding Dominant He can cause His sub to cry real tears. As a tender lover, He will kiss those tears away without stepping out of character. His strength is never wavering for her, yet He is vulnerable to her if He finds the occasion requires. In times of trouble, a Dominant will leave the roles behind, to be a supportive friend and partner, never forgetting that this is still a loving relationship between two caring individuals. He is quick to understand the differences between fantasy and reality. He would never ask a submissive to put Him before her career, or family, just to satisfy His own pleasure.
        To win His submissiveness mind, body and soul, He knows He must first earn her trust. He will show His submissive His humor, kindness, warmth, and power. He shows her that He is a Dominant she can learn from. She sees that His guidance and tutoring is knowledgeable and deserving of her respect. He knows she needs to feel His strength and His romantic love.
        He is romantic enough to be protective and chivalrous. When called upon, He will fight for His lady’s honor. When she needs it He will be unrelenting and obdurate. He proves to Her that He is someone she can lean on and depend on.
        He teaches His submissive Her lessons of trust and obedience constantly. He is a strong and unyielding teacher and taskmaster. He will accept no flaw, and nothing less than perfection from His student. He will ask much of her, and give her much in the process. Never does He use discipline or punishment without a good reason. When He does, it is always with knowledge and careful consideration. He understands the fragile nature of mind and body, and never violates the trust given to Him.
        He is a careful guide, with safety always His main concern. He knows how to orchestrate the use of pain to extend the bounds of pleasure. He is a mentor who can bring her to the edges of her envelope, and gently show her the inner courage to reach new heights and to grow. He is always open to communication and discussion, desiring to hear her wants, needs and fantasies. For through knowing these things He becomes worthy to compel her actions.
        He is patient, taking the time to learn her limits, and knowing that as her trust of Him grows, so will they stretch those limits, and grow together.
        He never has to demand ritual behavior by her. She responds to Him out of the want of pleasing Him. Compliance’s come from wanting to please, not the fear of punishment. He understands the fragile nature of mind and body, and never violates the trust given to Him. He is secure enough to laugh at Himself and the absurdities of life. Courageous enough to accept assistance and admit errors. Open minded enough to learn constantly new ways and ideas of improving. His tools are mind, spirit, soul, and body, with a little help from rope, crop, flogger, paddle and blindfold. He earns compliance of her mind, He demands control her body.
        He does not desire ritual behavior from her. He knows respect is earned, not demanded. He wishes her actions to be gifts of love and He desires that she responds to Him out of the need to please Him. Compliance comes from the wanting to please, not the fear of punishment.
        He compels, rather than controls.
        He is old-fashioned enough to be a chauvinist, yet modern enough to respect and admire His submissive, her strength, her courage, her depth of devotion. He is quick to point out the difference between them, He also knows there is no inferiority in those differences.
        He cherishes, protects, defends, and possesses her. Quick to point out the difference between them, he knows that there is no inferiority in her submission, she is a treasure and worthy of His devotion. Her desires and responses give purpose to His efforts. He is in awe of her.
        He understands that each partner gains from pleasuring the other, each in their unique way serves the other. He knows that love based on mutual respect is the only binding that truly holds…. for submission and trust can never be taken or demanded, it can only be given and earned.
        He strives always to be worthy of this, as He lives for her gift.

        submissives creed

        i am a submissive woman/man.
        i find pleasure, joy and fulfillment from being submissive to Another in a loving relationship.
        i am not weak or stupid.; i am a strong woman/man, with firm views and a clear concept of what i want out of my life.
        i do not serve out of shame or weakness, but out of pride and strength.
        i will look to my loving Master/Mistress for guidance and protection, for never will i be more complete than when He/She is with me.
        i know that He/She will protect my body, my mind and my soul with His/Her strength and wisdom.
        He/She is everything to me, as i am everything to Him/Her.
        His/Her touch awakens me and His/Her thoughts free me. Only in serving Him/Her do i find complete freedom and joy.
        His/Her punishments are harsh, but i accept them thankfully, knowing that He/She has my best interests always foremost in His/Her mind.
        If He/She desires my body for pleasure, i shall joyfully give it to Him/Her, and take great pleasure in myself knowing that i have brought Him/Her happiness.
        However, the pleasure of the flesh is but one facet of any relationship.
        The love, the trust and sharing, the words spoken and felt, those are all parts of this relationship.
        my body is His/Hers and if He/She says i am beautiful, then i am.
        No matter what i look like to others, i am beautiful in His/Her eyes, and because of that i hold my head high…..
        for who can tell me that my Master/Mistress is wrong in seeing the beauty in me?
        If He/She says that i am His princess or Her prince, then i am that….regal and gracefull.
        And if i see laughter at me in the eyes of O/others, i do not recognize it, for who are T/they to call my Master/Mistress wrong? If He/She says i am His/Her toy, His/her ****, His/Her tramp, then i am that….
        as wanton and dirty as He/She desires me to be, and if O/others do not see this, then it is T/they who are blind, not my Master/Mistress my mind is His/Hers to expand, to explore, to know as only He/She can.
        i have no secrets from Him/Her..
        .for secrets are a thing that would keep me from being more perfectly His/Hers Secrets would put a wall up between my Master/Mistress and myself..and i do not want walls.
        His/Her lessons are not always ones i would seek on my own, but they are lessons He/She has decided i need and so i learn them from Him/Her.
        my soul is His/Hers, as bare to His/Her touch as ever my skin could be when i kneel naked at His/Her feet.
        Never a moment goes by when i do not feel His/Her presence, be He/She miles away or standing before me.
        If i were ever to displease Him/Her, HisHer displeasures would be a blow to my soul, worse punishment than any lashes could be.
        The anguish of my soul that i feel when i disappoint Him/Her is harder to bear than the physical anguish i feel when His/Her belt caresses me with fire.
        i spend my days knowing that the energy and thought He/She puts into O/our relationship is as much for my benefit as for His/Hers, and look forward to each lovingly crafted scene that W/we do together.
        His/Her part is much harder than mine, and i know this and am grateful that He/She cares enough about me to spend His/Her time and energy so freely on me.
        i have the easier job: to feel, to experience, to let myself go and abandon everything to Him/Her.
        i am His/Her pleasure and responsibility, and He/She takes both seriously.
        i am proud to call myself that.
        my submission is a Gift that i do not give lightly, and can only be given to One who can appreciate that Gift and return it ten fold.
        Only to He/She who has that strength will i give myself fully, because i am strong and proud.
        i am a submissive woman/man.

        You be the judge of whether or not this is a kink or with intent for something deeper. A lot of damage can happen on both sides, and a “bad dominant” playing at a more serious role when unequipped to do so can do more harm than good. Kink is kink, if you’re comfortable whatever, if your dom KNOWS what they are doing (example suspension bondage, which if you are tied incorrectly you can dislocate a shoulder at best, or shatter or crush bone, only ONE example of how dangerous some of this world can be). But make sure that it’s kink and not something else.

      • Dovetail says:

        Speaking from the position of experience with successful D/s relationships, these can be very deeply rewarding dynamics, with closer bonds than other dynamics can offer, but they can also cause a lot of pain, you aren’t in a relationship in this where you are your own person anymore, and in a deep and long term true D/s relationship, this other person OWNS – OWNS as a MASTER and SLAVE, NOT EQUALS – you mind heart body soul and spirit. The line of side by side blurs fast, and putting your life, mind, heart, body, soul and spirit under another person’s control, in true submission, is NOT something to take lightly or enter quickly.

  19. Anonymous says:

    Maybe we should boycott SA and move onto Date a Millionaire. com

  20. Anonymous says:

    How to play dumbo SBs…those who plagiarize profiles?

    Pretend that their profiles are awesome and offer Minimum as that’s what they rightfully deserve?

  21. Riviera Undercover says:

    I have seen several profiles with the exact same text:
    financial support and great memories.

    The rest of the text is the same, a full paragraph. How strange?

    • Josh says:

      They attended the same SB seminar offered by the $15,000 per platonic meeting scammer.

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      183 in the USA, and 19 in the UK. There could be more, if you checked for other key phrases from the paragraph. A Tumblr or IG special? This blog? SA?

    • Josh says:

      Overall 251 around the world have the full version, as follows, or a variation thereof: 😉

      “I am seeking a gentleman. Someone honest, direct, and kind. I’d like to meet someone who is wise and generous and willing to share his insight. I want someone who’s company I can enjoy, who simply has the means and desire to support, spoil me, and guide me. I’m not looking to play games. Treat me respectfully and I will do the same for you!! We are both here for a reason. You want companionship and to help someone, I want financial support and great memories. This isn’t all about money for me, but please do not insult me by pretending it isn’t part of the arrangement.If you are looking for intimacy before an arrangement, you are on the wrong website. I do not get intimate with anyone until I am certain they will keep me comfortable both financially and physically.If you can exceed my expectations I will certainly exceed yours.”

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        That’s the one, any ideas where it came from? Are they all potential rinsers if they are not genuine about what they want?

      • Josh says:

        THIS is where it came from. 😉

        [http://torontobrownsugar.tumblr.com/post/123461076314/profile-improvement]

      • Josh says:

        Apparently the blogger advised to change the text of the longer version, but a lot of people just copied the longer version anyway.

      • Josh says:

        Here is another variation…especially note “I am a force to be reckoned with” present in 306 profiles:

        “I am looking for an older gentleman who isn’t opposed to introducing me to the finer things in life, as well as to invest in my future.
        I am a slender but curvaceous, ambitious,and soft-hearted lady with a tropical, exotic flair. Moonlight, delicious food and shiny things bring out the best in me. I know laughter is the best medicine, so if you have a great sense of humor, I’m certain we’ll get along just fine. Something many can attest to, is the radiance and glow that often follow me, my pictures do not do me justice. I’m sure you’ll tell me the same as we white-water raft, climb Mount Everest, or have a nice bite to eat on our first date.I am a force to be reckoned with, but emit only positivity–something I’d love to see in the world. I am ambitious and I need to be- I’ve got a world to change.I can’t wait to meet my next benefactor.
        I am seeking a gentleman. Someone honest, direct, and kind. I’d like to meet someone who is wise, generous and willing to share his insight. Someone who’s company I can enjoy, who simply has the means and desire to support me,dote on, and guide me.Treat me respectfully and I will do the same for you. I hope to hear from you soon.??

      • Josh says:

        101 of the “I am a force to be reckoned with” idiots are seeking $5,000, $10,000 and more per month to support their plagiarizing asses.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        I wonder if they really do want someone honest and direct when I point out they copy and pasted their profile lol …

      • Anonymous says:

        The first requirement a woman has of a man is for him to overlook her shortcomings and for both of them to accentuate his shortcomings.

      • Anonymous says:

        It’s as simple as ABC Anon, if a SB has shortcomings that are too much for you then just don’t start an arrangement with him/her.

      • Bob says:

        Thanks for the heads up [or down in this case].

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        This was one didn’t copy the paste correctly:
        If you are looking for intimacy then you are on the wrong website.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        And* Damn phone

    • Bartolo says:

      “Let me bring the light back into your life” appears in dozens and dozens of profiles too. Sometimes as the tag line, sometimes in the body of the profile.

      • elaine says:

        Well I think these are good indications about the type of pot SB.

        If she is too lazy, uncreative or dumb to write a decent profile herself, I guess it tells all about the efforts an SD can expect her to make for him?

      • Anonymous says:

        @Bartolo

        ‘“Let me bring the light back into your life” appears in dozens and dozens of profiles too.’

        They gift flashlights to SDs at their $15,000 platonic dates?

  22. Cryptic Anomaly says:

    Today’s Face Palm moment

    “What I’m looking for

    didnt feel like putting effort here. I was the one that ended the conversation so the ball was in her court, and i left it there.”

    Expectation : Substantial.

  23. Riviera Undercover says:

    This sounds good, an SB offering to pay you:
    I could make payments to you monthly by direct debit

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      The down side is you have to buy her a car:
      What I’m looking for

      Looking for a car arrangement to help me get to work and help me visit family and friends as I have not seen them over 6 months I have not driven a car for over a year and cannot afford to buy one myself :( I’m not asking for a range rover just a reliable car and help with the insurance

      The SA car loan corporation…

      • Anonymous says:

        buy her one for $300

      • IHF2030 says:

        A paltry 2k per month allowance can cover rent and a car payment for many young women. But, 2k per month is “chumps change” according to some, on here.

      • Anonymous says:

        I don’t understand a “car arrangement”. If we agree on an allowance, whether it’s 2K or 5K a month, would that not be enough to pay/insure for a car? Once I give you the money, what you do with it is up to you. Buy a Lexus or a Chevy, who cares?

      • noname says:

        its been my experince that when a SB asks for a car she want you to make the car loan payments plus the allowance you will see her once a month when needs money for the car so follow the others example and just give a allowance to take care of those expenses

      • Anonymous says:

        Not that expensive, she said reliable so might as well get a used second hand car, that costs about 5k.

    • Josh says:

      She buys the car in her name or a family member’s name. You make the car payments as long as she is playing ball, and you are playing with her balls.

      • Josh says:

        and not to forget she is playfully sucking and/or massaging your balls.

      • Anonymous says:

        I agree. Do not ever buy or lease in your name. Make sure it is in the SB’s name. So if she decides to bolt, she is stuck with the monthly payment and the ding is on her credit report.

      • Anonymous says:

        And what is he decides to bolt?

      • Anonymous says:

        1. Ain’t life a bitch?

        2. Buy your own car?

        3. Don’t ask him for one?

        4. Keep him so happy that he would be dying to buy another one for you?

        5. Nah, scratch #4. Thou art a princess?

      • Anonymous says:

        1.Ain’t life a bitch?
        2.Grow your own pussy?
        3.Don’t look for a SB?
        4.Keep her so happy that she would be dying to have sex with you?
        5.Nah, scratch #4. Thou art a prince?

      • Anonymous says:

        Thanks for confirming that pussy is the best asset most women pssess.

        Also, this is not your profile. Stop plagiarizing my post and come up with your own ideas and their expression.

      • Anonymous says:

        *possess

      • Anonymous says:

        I did not confirm anything, you did it for yourself. Now we all know what you really think. :)

        Also, this is not your profile Anon. Stop plagiarizing my post and come up with your own ideas and their expression.
        Signed, Anon

    • Anonymous says:

      Then you’d be a SB and she’d be a SM.

  24. A Nonny Moose says:

    Funny stuff…
    ***
    Her:
    Hello! I just read your profile and really liked it. I’m looking for… I really don’t need for you to pay my bills, etc because I can do that myself. I rather date for pay. So basically it would be every time you see me. Please keep in mind I’m not looking to have sex on the FIRST DATE…
    I’m currently in school for my CRNA license so that keeps me very busy. My reasoning for that is because I invest so much time going on a date with a guy but at the end of the day… I don’t come out with anything. Just so many different situations… You have no idea. But if we end up getting more serious we can set something else up.❤️
    So if that’s something you might be interested in…let me know when you would like to set up our first date with a offer amount. Everyone has an arrangement they are seeking on here…so this is the one I’m interested in committing to.
    ***
    Me:
    Sorry I’m not offering anything but a dinner or drinks on the first meet without knowing if there’s any chemistry to continue. Guys on this website don’t earn money for free either. Our time is equally if not more valuable.
    ***
    Her:
    If money is an issue for you… Then I’m pretty sure we won’t work out.

    We’re Sorry, But You Are Blocked By This Member…

    • Anonymous says:

      That is funny, and it looks like a standard mass message, trying to weed out the intelligent men

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I always see these type of messages as a good thing. At least when they are up front about it they save you the trouble of investing your time in energy into someone who’s a rinser

      • Anonymous says:

        Brandon created a website for these women who want to get paid for the first date: It’s called What’s Your Price. What are they doing on SA? Why would I pay you if it turns we have no compatibility or attraction to each other? I am paying for the dinner and drinks. That’s it.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Is that comment directed at me?

      • Anonymous says:

        Actually no Jaybird. I was responding to Noony Moose but I clicked the wrong reply button under your handle. What you said is correct though and I agree with you. WYP is created for those women who want to be compensated for the first date, whether there is a connection or not.

      • A Nonny Moose says:

        @Jaybird I like that glass-half-full perspective.

      • Kore says:

        @Moose I’ve noticed a few times how these girls block right after their ‘comeback.’ Why don’t the SDs beat them to it? If you block enough girls, maybe the rest will play nicer at some point?

      • Anonymous says:

        Great point @Kore

    • Bartolo says:

      I suspect I’m about to post a very similar thread. A SB initiated contact, and her profile asks for “a substantial amount just to meet.” I declined her request to view my photos and told her that I did not think we’re compatible. She asked for feedback, and so I typed up a polite, “I don’t compensate for first meet-and-greets” note.

      What’s the over/under that she’ll reply with snark and block me?? :-)

      • Jaybird923 says:

        There’s a very good chance that you’ll be asked whether you understand the nature of this site and maybe you’ll be told you shouldn’t be on this site if you have a problem with sharing your money with others. And then you’ll be blocked :-))

      • Anonymous says:

        cheap bastard, salt daddy faker

      • Anonymous says:

        Maybe she wanted that substantial amount for a sexy first meet, who knows? :)

      • Bob says:

        Jay is totally right. Why bother with a reply to a thief? Just block her.

    • noname says:

      nonny moose were you attracted to her before she asked for money on the M&G

      • A Nonny Moose says:

        I had basically her pic to go off of, which was comprised of a nice rack and a slim waist in a tight top w her face cropped off, because the rest of her profile had not much else of substance. Which was probably a good idea on her part lest she reveal too much of her true self. So yes at least that bit was attractive.

      • Anonymous says:

        You should have gone out with her if that babe was attractive.

  25. Anonymous says:

    The Guru knows this blog way too well. 😉

  26. Catcher 22 says:

    @Josh. I agree there are many crazy head cases on the blog, as on SA. Perhaps you should remove the huge target from your back by posting in a more civil and less personally insulting manner.

    • Anonymous says:

      This might land on Josh’s soft spot because you’re telling the truth.
      A group of anonymous people>an anonymous person/character. They can’t all be wrong.

      • Anonymous says:

        He has delusions of grandeur. He measures his self worth and importance by the amount of responses he gets, + or -, in these blogs. So keep feeding his ego.

  27. Josh says:

    @Bloggers

    Posting anonymously is my goodfaith gesture to keep sanity on the blog from certain idiotic blogggers’ shenanigans. For those who don’t believe me, I can start posting as Josh and you will see the male, female, female-posting-as-male crazies descend on the blog, en masse.

  28. SexyRockstar says:

    Am I the only blogger that has met other bloggers? I feel special.

  29. Anonymous says:

    I don’t get nose rings. I can do piercings everywhere else but WTF ? It’s like boogers hanging out. Anybody want to enlighten me about the attraction ?

  30. Jaybird923 says:

    What’s wrong with Miami? And New Orleans is a good suggestion!

    • Anonymous says:

      Miami is dirty, crime ridden, and depending on the time of year, ungodly humid, phoenix is another good spot, but if not nyc, id choose new orleans

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I disagree with everything you said about Miami except for the humidity part. I’ll be flying to Miami for a couple of days this Saturday. It’s a lovely city.

        But then again I’m very biased since I was born and raised there

      • Anonymous says:

        oh, then you are completely unbiased lol

      • Anonymous says:

        I was born and raised in philadelphia, i am aware it is essentially a shithole, a very american historically important shithole however

      • Anonymous says:

        You guys need to consider Bakersfield, CA.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Anon you should come and visit us in Africa, to know and see the true definition of a shithole.

      • Anonymous says:

        no thanks, appreciate the offer

      • Anonymous says:

        Pussy

      • Anonymous says:

        not visiting 3rd world shitholes doesnt make me a pussy, it makes me intelligent, with good judgment

      • Anonymous says:

        I live on the east coast, have lived on the west coast, theres about 25 states I have never been to and have no interest in ever visiting, why would i go to a shithole outside the us?

      • Anonymous says:

        Yes because everything outside the us is a shithole huh

      • SB TVC15 says:

        Yes. Every place outside the US is a shithole. Never leave. 😉

      • AnonymousB says:

        Bet you haven’t gotten around much. Nothing can compare to the atmosphere of Venice, the lights of Paris, a morning sun on Tuscany or horseback riding in Germany.

      • Anonymous says:

        every 3rd world country is a shithole, anywhere in africa, india, china, most of south america, and much of the middle east

      • Anonymous says:

        if you are going to criticize me, atleast have your facts, i said 3rd world countries, theres no third world countries in europe, for the most part, morons

      • Anonymous says:

        The middle east is doing alright for itself.
        Russia is awful though. Would never live there or Korea.

      • Anonymous says:

        Im not interested in the middle east at all, australia would be cool to go to, most of europe, some in south america, asia in general doesnt interest me, and you would have to pay me a fortune to travel to africa

      • Red says:

        Wrong!!! Miami is one of the best cities to live in. Even worth putting up with the humidity. No city talks diversity and sexiness more than Miami and that brings money. It’s like a fantasy world, especially for tourist and people who aren’t use to the life style. It there’s any place that speaks sugar more than NY would be Miami. Oh and I’m not from Miami…

      • Anonymous says:

        so my opinion of cities is wrong? that is certainly egotistical, like i give a fuck what city you like, I have been to Miami, I do not care for it whatsoever, I like hot weather, just not hot humid weather, I’ll take the Arizona desert any day, and I am a older white guy, do you honestly think I want a city of diverse ethnicity? lol hardly, I only speak english, Miami is out

      • SB TVC15 says:

        DEFINITELY never leave the US, pls thx

      • Anonymous says:

        Fake SBs were, are and always will be a part of SA experience. I do not enjoy fencing with rinsers, so I try to minimize it. If you think it is good fun, by all means, pleasure yourself.

      • Kore says:

        @Anon “every 3rd world country is a shithole, anywhere in africa, india, china, most of south america, and much of the middle east”

        In India, the average clubs are far classier than those here, plus perhaps some of the upscale spots. (They pay less for construction, etc.) I think it’s the same for other developing countries.

        If you have the money, you get more for it in these shitholes. 😉

    • Anonymous says:

      Maybe we should suggest it to SA’s staff and moderators if they’d like to pay our way, venue and other expenses for the resident bloggers who keep this blog (and SA for that matter) alive. They have enough so maybe they could do this little thing for us. ?

      • Anonymous says:

        Hell no!! Do they can invite press and take pictures…..pass

      • Anonymous says:

        *so

      • Anonymous says:

        If they pay our flight and return they sure as hell can call the press.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I’d pass. I wouldn’t be interested if SA was involved. Who wants all the media attention and nonsense that they insist on. That’s why I have no interest in going to any of the events they throw.

      • Not going to an SA sponsored anything.

      • Anonymous says:

        Last thing SA would do is sponsor an event filled by bloggers who constantly criticize them and tells it as it is. If the rest of the sugar bowl knew what we talked about here it would implode. They have to maintain the illusion at all costs. There is 8:1 ratio and women get 10K/mo for platonic dinners only.

    • Id go to New Orleans. Phoenix is nice.

    • MissLady says:

      Dang, now I want some beignets….

    • IHF2030 says:

      If Vegas is out then I would much prefer NYC over New Orleans and Miami.

  31. Jaybird923 says:

    I was looking into hotels in Vegas. The last time I was there I stayed at the Luxor. Does anyone have any recommendations? And yes this has to do with the proposed meet for blog participants.

  32. Cryptic Anomaly says:

    @Joyce – Another reason you might be failing on here is

    10. You turned it into hard work/a game for the SD. If he likes you and wants to chat with you then respond in a timely manner, answer questions with detail, ask him questions, propose a low key first meet etc. When I chat with a SB and she starts making it difficult to chat with her than I tend to bale quickly.

  33. Kore says:

    “Unlike other dating websites, it’s my commitment to operate our business ethically. This means caring about your privacy, encrypting identifiable data, and never employing fake profiles or software bots. When we say there are more women than men, we guarantee it.”

    😀 This is the quote from Brandon at MissTravel.

    Just looked it up from a SA member’s suggestion. Didn’t realize it was one of Brandon’s. Anyone know what it’s like there?

    • Anonymous says:

      If I was a woman it would take me several months of knowing a man first before agreeing to travel with him esp. out of the country. She is taking a big risk leaving the state or country with a total stranger she met online. Imagine pissing off your SD because you would not do what he says and you are stuck in butt fuck Egypt with no return ticket.

      • Cryptic Anomaly says:

        Agreed and even as a SD I would be worried about a woman who would be so keen to travel with a man she barely knows just so she can get a free ride. If she has so little to lose than that can be a threat for all concerned.

      • Kore says:

        😀 Yes, sure. I wouldn’t sign myself wanting to do that, and that’s not what I meant.

        Just the, “never employing fake profiles or software bots,” part. Should’ve made that clear.

      • Cryptic Anomaly says:

        @Kore-Yeah, I understand in the wake of Ashley Madison that he felt the need to say it but it sounds as dodgy as someone who says “Trust Me” lol

      • Anonymous says:

        That’s why you get the return ticket before you set your foot out there, and have some handy cash with you. That should be logical, right?

      • Someone mentioned here that he doesnt give a return ticket until the day of departure.

      • Anonymous says:

        You either book a fully refundable ticket or book the ticket within 24 hours of travel. Most likely than not the SB would be a no show.

        If she doesn’t confirm that she’s at the airport already in the terminal you cancel the ticket for a full refund.

        That said, I would never travel out specifically for an SB, nor I would fly anyone on.

        My neck of the wood is getting pretty good herd of delusional women to screen from.

      • Anonymous says:

        @yougottabekiddingme, I am sure they did. Anybody who goes by that deserves what is coming. Who, in their right mind, would even think, of traveling to a foreign country with a total stranger, without a return ticket? I can’t imagine whom.

      • Kore says:

        @cryptic Sure! But I still think that SA could be spared. It simply has quite a few members who are not cheating. The hackers that targeted AM and Co. seemed to have done it for ‘moral’ reasons.

    • Anonymous says:

      You can travel from anywhere to anywhere in Transylvania.

    • Anonymous says:

      I have used it before Kore. Many men flake there, you message, talk on the phone and then when they say they’re coming to see you (in your city) they flake, so they’re mostly rinsers. Some think that you don’t have to develop a connection to be intimate with them, the travel costs alone should send you doing that. Haha

    • Bob says:

      I used MT at the beginning before it lead me to SA.
      I think it is fairly dead right now, probably for the reasons other bloggers have pointed out.
      It is a great place for rinsers of both persuasions so you better trust your gut instincts and plan for disappointment or worse. I do not recommend it even though it worked for me.
      Everyone I met wanted a meet up beforehand, which was what I wanted so no problem. I started a 2 year relationship that was based on travel as she lived in London and I was in NA. Was great for trips to Europe.

      • Kore says:

        @Bob Yes, the only thing I could see possibly working out with MT is the meet beforehand and the SD travelling to a destination the SB is somewhat familiar with. At least in the beginning. But like one Anon mentioned, there’s just absolutely no way a reasonable person would travel with a stranger to ‘some’ place where anything could happen to you.

      • Bob says:

        @Kore totally agree. I have been very lucky with MT and SA inasmuch as I have met mostly honest and well meaning ladies. Only once have I been bitten so to speak, and that wasn’t too very bad.
        However my experience on MT, more so than SA, has also shown me how many lonely and/or desperate women there are “out there” who are vulnerable to the seemingly quick and easy fix of these sites. We often talk about the rinsers on these blogs, and their victims. Nonetheless I truly feel for the desperate of both sexes who just want to grab a bit of happiness out of life but who are preyed upon! Their desperation blinds them. [sorry off topic but it’s late and I ramble a bit when I’m tired! insomnia sucks!]

      • Kore says:

        @Bob That’s fine. :) And quite true. People end up getting in trouble when they don’t see how their desperation puts imagined boundaries onto their situation.

  34. noname says:

    does anyone have any info on pairmeup i can’t find out how much this will cost without signing up

    • Cryptic anomaly says:

      They say men only pay s small fee once they find you a match and pass you the contact details. They never mention the fee though and the SB gets $100 for every SD she meets. So I’m guessing the small fee would be at least $200 just so you can chat to the same women who piss you off on here but now they find them for you!!

      • noname says:

        lol thats good cryptic thanks for the feed back

      • Anonymous says:

        Why do they piss you off cryptic? Not able to find anyone yet? Just keep looking…

      • Kore says:

        @Anon Ever heard of standards?

      • Cryptic Anomaly says:

        @Anon – I’ve had 2 SB’s and one who preferred to be my GF, also as Kore stated I have high standards myself so many SB’s make it past messaging stage.

        Also atleast on here if you are smart you can work out if the SB is genuine or not via messaging, on PairMeUp I am not sure if they just give you some contact details after you pay the small fee and then you find out the SB is a Rinser/Flake or anything else. So it seems like a flawed concept to me.

      • Anonymous says:

        Pair Me Up guarantees that if your SB will not suck your dick the matchmaker will come to your hotel and do it instead. However, they do not guarantee that your matchmaker is a woman. So keep your fingers crossed.

      • Anonymous says:

        @cryptic I think they make every SB and SD verify beforehand so they have full control of their ‘clients’ and may take complains seriously.

      • Anonymous says:

        Holes is holes

  35. Anonymous says:

    @joyce

    “its been almost a year since i joined this site and i havent met a daddy yet..”
    why is it so hard for me”

    0. Your profile sucks?
    1. You’re black?
    2. You’re fat?
    3. You’re old?
    4. You’re obnoxious?
    5. All of the above?

    • cryptic anomaly says:

      6. You’re only offering Platonic
      7. You fail to engage the SD when one messages you.
      8. Your expectations are too high for your appearance/age/locality

    • Anonymous says:

      You just described basically what all the SDs in this site are, with a few exceptions.

      • Anonymous says:

        I understand that your female mind fails to comprehend that an SD is willing to compensate for any shortcomings with his money…the SB is not.

      • Anonymous says:

        Says so the guy who put 1. You’re black? as a shortcoming at the top of the list.

        So by your ‘logic’ if a man is all of those things at a pretty big extent, that means he has to offer thousands or millions because he’s the absolute worst and based on sugar math you think money is the great equalizer?

      • Anonymous says:

        Again…your female mind fails to comprehend cause and affect. My list was for SBs and YOU implicated that it applied to SDs as well.

        I never said that being black is a challenge on this site. I have NEVER seen a black SD complaining on the site that he’s having difficulty securing SBs because of his skin color…but not a week passes that we get black SBs come here and complain about their lack of success.

      • Anonymous says:

        Actually he didn’t put being black as the #1 reason for failure. He put “your profile sucks” as the first reason and being black the second. You need to read more carefully. And he is right BTW. A rich black SD will have no problems finding any pussy. Black SB’s OTOH will struggle and most will not find an SD.

      • Anonymous says:

        He put the your profile sucks as zero so didn’t count that as a first. Not sure why.

        He still didn’t answer the question which was: So by your ‘logic’ if a man is all of those things at a pretty big extent, that means he has to offer thousands or millions because he’s the absolute worst and based on sugar math you think money is the great equalizer?

      • Anonymous says:

        I have made my points loud and clear. Many men have lousy profiles, are old, fat, obnoxious, non-white, etc., but they compensate their lack of X with the use of money. Women can’t.

        That said…I will let your female mind go in circles.

      • Anonymous says:

        You still did not answer the question, trying to go round bout it. Are YOU saying that if a SD has all those shortcomings at an enormous extent, that he (or she for SM) should pay an extraordinary amount to make up for it, since money is the great EQUALIZER?

      • Anonymous says:

        Keep going in circles…

        It is YOUR assumption…not mine…that an SD even with ALL of the shortcomings listed will have to pay an “extraordinary amount”.

        The reality is that an inexperienced, 30-something, Brat Pitt looking SD may get scammed into paying high amounts…and a fat, old, obnoxious SD may use some money to do fairly well.

        That said, your female mind thinks that you can keep going in circles and reel me into your idiotic logic after so many iterations…because this is what many men do…they just get tired with the idiocy and give in…

      • Anonymous says:

        You were the one who assumed he has to make up for his shortcomings, since money is the great equalizer. Read a few posts up. Since SBs who have shortcomings of this nature cannot compensate it, then it’s fairly natural to assume that the SD or SM makes up for it with MONEY. Your theory, Got it?

      • Anonymous says:

        Keep talking to yourself while going in circles. You’re writing shit and accusing me of holding those alleged positions. I never said that the man “has to” pay anything. I said that he’s “willing to”.

        Also, I never said that money is “great equalizer”…whatever that means.

      • Anonymous says:

        compensate for any shortcomings with his money…

        And this doesn’t talk about money being an equalizer. Hmm, alright.

      • Anonymous says:

        Are you done talking to yourself?

      • AnonymousB says:

        Nope I’m interacting with you. ☻

    • Anonymous says:

      one day those who don’t date black women–yet. Will realize that we are some of the best women you will come across. I was a first for some men I’ve dated. Now they have a chocolate craving. ??

  36. Anonymous says:

    @Baby

    “And as long as my Dugar daddy is happy with knowing that part of the many reasons I am with him is because he is rich and accomplished, I am happy too.”

    So you are basically interested in him because “he is rich and accomplished”?

    • Baby says:

      Oh dear, this is such a pointless discussion. Yes, as I stated in the sentence you so kindly quoted, one of the MANY REASONS I am with him is because he is rich and accomplished. Is that a problem? And why didn’t you answer my question? Probably because you have nothing meaningful to say. This is a Sugar blog, why are you so salty? If you have a problem with the choices sugar babies make you can just leave the blog and stop judging. It is pointless and won’t make you feel better, or us worse.

    • Kore says:

      @Anon Imagine a SB who whines that two of the reasons you are with her is because she is fit and pretty… Same logic.

      • Anonymous says:

        I am an SD — I get it that “rich and accomplished” opens the door. With the ones worth keeping, there is more than that to maintaining the relationship.

      • Kore says:

        Yes, quite so.
        At least she’s not pretending that these reasons don’t make a difference. They do.
        To me, these are signs of someone who is determined. They’ve earned what they’ve gotten and that is sexy.
        It’s the cause behind the outcome that I find attractive.
        Perhaps she meant something similar?

      • Anonymous says:

        Just like people don’t find a couch potato attractive.

      • Baby says:

        Exactly! I know that my appearance was the first thing that sparked interest and I am okay with that. But my SD also knows that his success is attractive to me. I am done dating lazy boys who don’t know what they want in life and there is nothing wrong with that :)

      • Anonymous says:

        no, there is not Baby, pass that knowledge along to your friends

  37. Anonymous says:

    Sugar magic happens when you juggle multiple babies. Ask me how.

    • cryptic anomaly says:

      Is that like when a magician juggles kittens and a chainsaw all at once?

    • Anonymous says:

      Sugar magic happens when you’re able to neutralize female sabotage with a firm NO because you have more than one woman in rotation.

      • Anonymous says:

        This must be Josh and his theory on female sabotage. Keep it up Anon-Joshy.

      • Kore says:

        In other words, you don’t have what it takes to say, ‘no,’ by yourself.

      • Anonymous says:

        You always have the option to do so but then you risk losing pussy for a while.

      • Anonymous says:

        You must be Josh’s admirer who attributes every logical post to Josh?

      • Anonymous says:

        Read a few blogs back on his sabotage theory and how he claims merits to it. He’s also lurking now on the blog as an anon to keep a low profile like he said.

      • Anonymous says:

        1. So you agree with his sabotage theory?

        2. He left a clear impression on you in that anytime anyone talks about female sabotage you attribute that to him?

      • Anonymous says:

        1. So, how did you come to conclusion 1? Where did you get that idea? I merely noticed it but knew it was from Josh’s vocab.

        2. Because he was the first to talk about it on here and defend it, not just me, any full time blogger here will know and tell you the same. He was a disease we couldn’t rid of, and apparently he’s gone anonymous now. Might as well be you, who knows, we don’t have name tags here.

  38. Anonymous says:

    @Baby

    “The job I can currently find would probably provide me with 500 pounds a month… Do you think this would be enough in London?”

    But…let me guess…you “know your worth” and that of your pussy to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 5,000+ pounds a month?

    • Anonymous says:

      500 British pounds a month? That is like 770 US dollars. What kind of pathetic job do you have? Our WalMart greeters make more than that!

    • Baby says:

      I wonder how we got from the topic of finding a job to support oneself to what my worth is, whether I know it or not, and if it is equal to the worth of my pussy? But to answer your question. Yes, I do know my worth and it is not measured in pounds. I deserve a man who is smart, succesful and knows how to treat a woman right. And as long as my Dugar daddy is happy with knowing that part of the many reasons I am with him is because he is rich and accomplished, I am happy too.
      My question for you is, if you are going to judge the Sugar lifestyle, what are you doing on this blog?

    • Anonymous says:

      She never said anything about her worth, or at least I did not see that. she said that her needs are this and that, not mentioning her wants. So what is wrong with a little saving and budgeting?

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      The UK minimum wage in the UK for 18 to 20 year old’s is £5.30, to get £500.00 a month the individual would have to work roughly 20 hours a week, which is practical for a full time student as full time employment in the UK is usually between 37 to 40 hours. The London living wage is £9.40, but no one pays this as companies pay low wages that are then topped up by the government. Strangely these employers find ways of not paying any tax themselves. Welcome to prosperous Britain…

  39. LeatherAndLacey says:

    Where is the managing multiple SDs blog? Lol

    • Anonymous says:

      Think that was posted about a year ago….

    • noname says:

      good question

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Here you go how to juggle SDs …

      [https://www.seekingarrangement.com/blog/blog/2015/05/06/benefits-balancing-sugar-daddies/]

    • Baby says:

      Just give enough time and attention to the right Sugar Daddy and you won’t need more than one. That is the best type of Sugar!

    • IHF2030 says:

      Women who juggle multiple sugar daddies are prostitutes; did you not get the memo?

      • Anonymous says:

        I hate Females, men who juggle and cheat on multiple women in their lives (including their wife and mistresses) are male prostitutes. Did you not get the memo?

      • Anonymous says:

        Female logic is a…mazing.

        A man can prostitute himself to make money…but how can a man be a prostitute when he is paying?

      • Anonymous says:

        Because he’s sleeping with multiple women while that same woman may only sleep with two dudes, but apparently the one who pays, even if they have chlamydia from sleeping around and cheat on their wives with mistresses, sbs..etc are still not considered prostitutes because they’re paying. This is male ‘logic’.

    • yougottabekiddingme says:

      @LeatherAndLacey

      Are you a cam girl?

      If so, do you work with another cam girl?

      If so, are you Leather or Lacey?

      • Anonymous says:

        @YKBKM

        Think she is a pro.
        She doesn’t really need to find a blog about juggling more than one SD. 😉

        Just posted here with a sexy pic, to direct idiots to her profile to pay for an online arrangement.

        Don’t get it….who on earth is going to pay for sexy pics while the internet is full of them?!
        Are there really such Sds??

      • elaine says:

        Sorry, that “Anon” was me! :-)

      • Anonymous says:

        Yes there are because pics and videos are not personalized to the SDs desire and expectations. He might be a kinky fellow, or might want to include his name…the list goes on. Not some random pic on google.

      • elaine says:

        Shoot me…..
        I will never understand how male “logic” works…

        My female logic just tells me that EVERYTHING can be found on the net.
        All possible kinks there, and who would want to pay to see his name included !?

        But whatever, as long as it makes people happy……

      • Anonymous says:

        @Elaine, it is a different feel when you have control of the person doing it, you know him/her, and make them do anything you’d like in whatever order you’d like.

      • Anonymous says:

        Totally not true, guys could hire a cam girl far much cheaper. This is just false justification for the idea that there is a market for rinsers and scammers on SA.

      • Anonymous says:

        Cam girls outside of SA are much cheaper and will do pretty much anything.

        They come to SA to browbeat unsuspecting SD wanna be to scam a higher amout for the same services.

  40. Cassandra says:

    This pic sent me on a memory spiral. I went out with a POT a few years back when I was 18. That was obviously what was stated in my profile. We had a fun dinner one night and then the next day he sent me a text to tell me that even though he liked me very much, he could not lie down on a bed with a girl much younger than him and that made him uncomfortable. He was 36, so double my age. I wondered what he would have thought if I’d told him I dated an older guy much his age before I got into sugar.

    • Anonymous says:

      Ok, here is the truth.
      He did not like you, but thought of this as a polite way to say “no”.
      It is as good as a few other ways, not the worst by any means… My favorite always is”sorry, I still cannot get over my ex”. Works as a charm.

      • Anonymous says:

        You must be chubby. That is why he could not fuck you. He was being polite.

      • Anonymous says:

        Lol not at all. He said I reminded him of his teenage daughter. I guess that’s because I just turned 18 back then but I was dating older men at the same. I found a great SD a couple days after, and he was 32 so closer in age.

      • Anonymous says:

        Yeah Anon because every young girl must have something going against her. You’d better find something else to pick on.

      • Anonymous says:

        they do, youth, young women are stupid period

      • Baby says:

        Anon, take my word for it, we young women aren’t stupid at all :) as a 19 year old SB I can tell you that my SD loves every minute he spends with me and, despite me being so young, thinks I am fascinating, smart and quite mature.

      • Anonymous says:

        yeah, cause you let him nut on your face, of course he will lie to you lol

      • Baby says:

        Haha because you would do that, right? Pick a bimbo that has an IQ inversely proportional to her bust size, lie to her to keep her around and wonder why all the women you date are dumb. 😀

      • Anonymous says:

        You are correct, I used the “I went back to my ex” with one obnoxious woman who was texting me all the time, and after that one, she did not bother me anymore. I didn’t but it worked.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      He was 36 and had a teenage daughter?

      • MissLady says:

        Yeah, he could’ve started early, like when he was 20 or so…

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I guess he could’ve…

      • rembodler says:

        @Jay
        Whenever I feel like bashing women for lack of logic, I think of you. And that gives me a pose…:-))).
        A 36 year old man having an 18 year old daughter. yea… she just wanted to make a point and fucked up, seems like…;-).
        Still, an exception just proves the rule.
        I guess I will have to put a disclaimer in:
        “Women normally lack logic. But there are exceptions”

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Remmy lol I was thinking the same thing :-))

        And thank you coming from you being called logical is high praise indeed. xoxo

      • Anonymous says:

        @rem

        Use “Most” before “women” to be technically correct.

      • Anonymous says:

        No, his daughter wasn’t 18, she was 15, anyway, I do not feel like giving out more details because you never know he reads the blog.

    • Anonymous says:

      Despite some of the other comments he may very well felt uncomfortable with your age. You might have reminded him of a daughter or friend’s daughter,

      Yes there might have been other reasons .

      It is not just chron age…… there are 18 year olds who are intelligent, worldly and very comfortable in an SB role and who will get a lot out of a good relationship. There are also 25 year olds who would be damaged by sugar.

      For the younger SB’s one of the most critical questions is how much does the SD want me to have a successful relationship. Too many, especially younger almost think it is wrong if the SB has a great experience in that it means they “wasted” money they did not have to give.

      • Anonymous says:

        Thank you for your input. I thought about waiting for a year or two, maybe around 20 because whenever I would go out with my SD all the people around would make us uncomfortable. He might’ve just been uncomfortable and that is alright. I think he wanted someone closer in age. And about you last bit, that’s a damn shame because I have had a great relationship with my long time partner/SD and just because I would date him regularly and ‘for free’ doesn’t mean that he’s cutting my allowance up. It’s not money wasted, it’s not an equalizer, it’s just a bonus for me.

      • Anonymous says:

        He was either lying or F-ed up . Either way you don’t need him. You are a great age for the right person .

    • Anonymous says:

      It was a polite fuck off, live with it 😉

  41. Anonymous says:

    Found my unicorn: e63799321
    Get yours today for a 50% discount and bargain. ????????

    • Customer Support says:

      @Anonymous
      Please stop posting profile identifiers of our upstanding Sugar Daddy’s. They pay the bills. Please feel free to post as many Sugar Baby identifiers as you please.
      Sincerely,
      Double Standard

    • clea says:

      The fact that the profile was made Nov 1st 2015 makes me think it’s a joke profile intended to mock SBs.

      • Anonymous says:

        You think so? Why would anyone bother that much seriously?
        I mean some people do create profiles on the 1st of November but one can never know.

    • Anonymous says:

      Seeing as the guy whose photo it is lives in Monaco, how authentic do you think it is? The image is searchable on the web, so easily stolen. So nice try!

  42. Anonymous says:

    Anybody else suspects that SBRosey was a creation of SA to lure more SBs?

  43. Anonymous says:

    @Sugar Kell

    “The men got rich just so they could impress women, so let’s not get it confused.”

    Thanks for unconfusing me.

    • Anonymous says:

      It’s quite partially true though Anon, most men work hard so they can enjoy (and enjoy spending) their hard earned money on women, trophy wives, mistresses, SBs, harem..you name it!
      And then there are others who just like to work and are workaholics, the greedy ones etc.

  44. Anonymous says:

    Here you go people…for your entertainment…we have Lauuuuuurrrrraaaa…who has been posting on the earlier blog.

    @Laura

    “Erm, soz, it is about SECURITY. Just my tapence. I can slim down a willing fat guy but I am not prepared to put up with an alpha who has nothing to show for all that alpha obnoxiousness. Also I am not into butt sex or bdsm, unless people bribed me with all of their declared 30mln fortune for one meet, and yes, I would have a friend awaiting my call/text and alerting the cops in case anything went wrong :p “

    • Anonymous says:

      30 million for anal sex? That is one expensive asshole!

    • Anonymous says:

      Mouth farts are as cheap as asshole farts.

    • Anonymous says:

      Maybe I should get into anal lest the price goes too high?

      • Anonymous says:

        With a wife it comes for free. ?

      • Anonymous says:

        Many women (wives or otherwise) are not into anal.

      • Anonymous says:

        And rightfully not. It’s painful, gives absolutely no pleasure whatsoever because there are no nerves there and is mainly a taboo enticer. Not meant for doing it.

      • Anonymous says:

        I have only met one woman in decades who is proactively into anal…maybe I am not looking at the right places…but truth be told…I am not too much into the stinky myself.

      • Anonymous says:

        i prefer my women not be into anal, makes it more fun for me

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Sadistic prick

      • Customer Support says:

        @Jaybird923 aka Bolt on Tits please stop using vulgar words like “prick”. This is a family blog.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        You’ve got to be fucking kidding me! A family blog you say? Well with the frequency with which vulgar words like bitch, cunt, and ho are hurled at female bloggers, I just assumed there was no issue with saying words like prick. Thanks for setting me straight.

        By the way there’s a Fat Bastard that you should inform of this fact. He called me a derogatory word that I found very offensive. Just make sure you don’t use words with to many syllables. He might not understand. He’s quite the simpleton.

      • Customer Support says:

        Yes family blog, my children read this every night before going to bed. Their vocabulary has improved greatly.

        I will not use the word supercalifragilisticexpialidocious in any correspondence with Fat Bastard. Thank you for the tip.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        @customer support

        Do you have any tips for removing a flash drive from my vagina?

        Daddy wanted cybersex.

      • Anonymous says:

        Push the lever…it will flush away.

      • Anonymous says:

        And since it’s all digital it would not make any noise either.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Are you sure I shouldn’t use a plunger?

      • Anonymous says:

        I think that you have it ass backwards…plunger would shove the flash drive up your uterus. Unless that’s what you are trying to achieve…that is…to have give birth the flash drivelets.

      • Anonymous says:

        *to give birth to flash drivelets.

      • Customer Support says:

        @yougotstobef@@ingkiddingme.
        How do I know you have a vagina? It’s merely hearsay on the blog. Therefore I can not provide assistance until said vagina is proven to be real.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        Well, there’s only one way to know for sure.

        Close your eyes and open your mouth, please sir. I mean…since you’re feeling frisky.

      • The Prophet says:

        @YGBKM
        AGAIN? Let me take it out, my deer…..err dear.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        What can I say? You do know best, Prophet.

      • The Prophet says:

        What can I say. I do it best. 😉

      • Promise you’ll show me?

      • Catcher 22 says:

        @ygtbkm: Promise is still interning. Not yet a full fledged SB. It is unkind of you to rush her to thar stage before she is fully prepared to handle it.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        @Catcher
        Commagain?
        You don’t think my hundredaire status, angelic charm and woman’s logic would be enough to attract an intern should I decide to hop the sugar fence?

  45. Anonymous says:

    Sustainable sugar: I’ll say it, since no one else has the balls to [apparently]. What do men want on this website? Don’t for one fucking second say “companionship, travel buddy, friend, blah blah blah”. No. All signs lead to getting laid. & women? Not your run of the mill, I’m desperate for any thing type of woman… Real women. What do we want? Money. No gift certificates, no gift cards. Can’t led hard cash in our hand or in our bank account. So, the “sustainable sugar”, which I would consider icing on the cake. Designer items are nice. A new car if I’m constantly traveling to see you wouldn’t be unrealistic. Rent paid, utilities paid, bills paid…. That is what we want. Any woman who tells you differently.. She’s full of shit.

    • Anonymous says:

      IHF2030,

      Let’s get some cashews and Guinness out…

    • Anonymous says:

      Why not just get a job and support yourself?

    • Anonymous says:

      Because getting job and supporting oneself is not fun?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Hell no it’s a necessary evil if you want to eat and have somewhere to live without being dependent on some one else’s whims.

      • Baby says:

        Getting a job at 19, while full-time studying and not having student financing, because I was not born in England, is not fun. The job I can currently find would probably provide me with 500 pounds a month… Do you think this would be enough in London?

      • Anonymous says:

        Fuck London.

      • Baby says:

        I actually enjoy London a lot, thanks

      • Anonymous says:

        Then don’t whine about the cost of living in the fucking shithole of Europe.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I am looking for companionship, great sex, and to travel. If on top of that someone chooses to be generous enough to provide an allowance I’ll graciously accept and be grateful that he’s giving me an opportunity to save more for my future. I can pay my own rent and bills.

      • Anonymous says:

        As per @Anon you’re “full of shit.”

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Of course I am. Which part do take exception to? :-))

      • Anonymous says:

        True Anon, she’s a fictional character lurking on the blog who’s never tried sugaring.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Lol Who knew being appreciative of someone who’s generousity enhances your life would be so hard for people to accept. :-))

      • Anonymous says:

        Nothing wrong with appreciation, but saying that all people are just going to graciously accept the allowance just means that you cannot grasp the mutual beneficial aspect of the arrangement. You’re also needing to meet the expectation whether that be sex, platonic, travel partner, friend or whatever and deliver on your part so maybe they should graciously accept that too.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        When did I say all people are going to graciously do anything? I specifically said “I’ll Graciously accept”. I have no idea how my appreciation negates an arrangement being mutually beneficial. Your statement makes absolutely no sense.

        If an SD didn’t feel my presence in his life was beneficial to him I wouldn’t be there to graciously accept anything. Unlike some people on this blog I never feel a need to speak for other people. I don’t labor under the misconception that my opinions encompass the views of everyone else. I always make sure to clearly state that it is my opinion or it is what I would do in a particular situation.

        I have no concerns or insecurities about the value of what I bring to an SD’s life and don’t feel a need to keep stating it. I do what works for me, do what works for you, but do try to refrain from making gross generalizations about a whole group of people. Not every SB has the same needs or wants as you. (assuming you are the OP)

  46. Anonymous says:

    You are most likely able to find a non-escort, non-escortish, non-rinser woman in Minimal than in other allowance categories. However, beware of the escorts who use the SA guideline for “Minimal” as their per visit charge.

    • Anonymous says:

      Says so the guy who pushes the minimal agenda.

    • Anonymous says:

      There’s nothing wrong with Minimal. It’s better than wasting time with broke BFs or worse bankrolling projects.

      • Anonymous says:

        I am not saying there is, but stating IT’S BETTER than others for these, these, these reasons is somehow fishy. Saying I do it because that’s what I can afford is OK.

  47. Anonymous says:

    When to renew a membership?

    I typically buy monthly membership. This allows me to:

    – Be active for a few days…up to a month to line up some POTs.
    – Communicate briefly on SA.
    – Get their contact information off SA.
    – Communicate with them off SA.

    Then I let the membership expire for a few weeks until the new herd is accumulated, and has sent me messages. Then I sign up again and communicate with the new herd.

    It gives me control on the amount of time and money I spend on SA. Also, if I am in an arrangement, I can just let it slide for a longer period of time.

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      That is generally what I do, normally I have at least 5 potentials to see if we click and have a meet and greet. However, I just had one from my last sojourn and she appears to have been a flake as she did a no show at the restaurant. Everyone else has been seeking a handsome stud, platonic companionship – but not obvious in their profiles, disguised platonic rinsers, or scammers trying to get advances or sell cam time, pics or videos…

    • Cryptic anomaly says:

      Hmmm I once used a site where I was never messaged and then on the last day of my membership I was flooded with requests to chat. I was wise to what was happening so I didn’t bother renewing.

      Just mentioning that as it would be interesting to see if you get more messages when you are not a paying member as compared to when you are one.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        That used to happen to me on SA lol, then I made my profile hidden…

      • noname says:

        that is interesting cryptic i had a site that i received lots of messages from very beautiful ladies but once i payed those messages dryed up and the ones that sent messages didn’t respond i only paid for one month because i want to make sure a website delivers what they promise most don’t but ive also experienced what you went through all these sites will do what they can to keep the numbers up even if it means fake profiles

      • Anonymous says:

        It used to happen in the past but it seems that somehow my neck of the woods got some kind of real marketing or auto-profile-create boost.

        I don’t get a whole lot of messages in the last days of expiration anymore.

      • Anonymous says:

        Now I get a steady number of contacts from POTs whether I am active or not.

    • The Shadow says:

      If the 70 dollar monthly membership fee is such a great burden on your budget that you have to go inactive for awhile just to save a few measly bucks, you are definitely a misfit for this site. Then again, there are lots of other delusional el cheapo SD wannabees here to keep you company.

      • Anonymous says:

        its dark out shadow, time to hit yo corner now

      • Anonymous says:

        Interesting how broke ass women try to teach men how to spend their money.

      • Anonymous says:

        You haven’t met any very wealthy individuals? My grandfather was a millionaire and CEO (well General Manager, it was the 50/60’s) of a household name company, he owned race horses, foreign villas and mansions. But his shirts were worn, his shoes resoled, he never through out food, would eat leftovers, the list is endless. I know a guy whose bank bonus is in the millions, but he still steals ketchup sachets from restaurants 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        Threw out :-)

      • Debirol92 says:

        I think a lot of rich men don’t show their wealth. My father has a lot of money (millions) but i didnt know that for a long time, he always told me and my brother that we are poor when we were kids :D.
        And that is what a lot of the SB don’t understand. Most SD work hard for their money, money doesn’t just fly in. So for me i’m here to learn from these men. And i only need the allowance to keep up my look. I am a perfectionist :D. I am a registered nurse and i dont ”need” the money.
        PS: And my next project is to learn english!

      • Anonymous says:

        When I’m in an arrangement that keeps me content, I don’t find the need to renew.

  48. Anonymous says:

    This is what a woman is typically after…in a man:

    – Man’s resources to support her and her offspring
    – Standing among her girlfriends to have snagged a man everyone else wishes was hers.
    – A project to satisfy her maternal instincts.

  49. Anonymous says:

    @Anonymous

    “So you’ve been waiting for new girls to come to SA since you’ve gone through on all the old ones huh? Like I’ve said before, maybe the problem lies within you Riviera.”

    I think most men have received the memo…loud and clear…that is:

    If a woman is having problem finding a man…it’s men’s fault. Got it.
    If a man is having problem finding a woman…it is man’s fault. Got it.

    Female logic is the highest insurmountable challenge men face…then you have PUA…who learn how to maneuver around the female logic.

    • AnonymousB says:

      You have no clue what you’re talking about. Most SBs who came here for help were criticized. But if Riviera can’t seem to find a decent SB then it may surely concur to you that out of all those POTs he could have interacted with, that they all can’t be wrong. Majority wins the minority.

  50. Anonymous says:

    Happy late Halloween. ?????

  51. Anonymous says:

    @Dovetail

    Come to think of it, non-whore, polyamorous women are real lovers of men because they love them for who they are and not their resources that come with them.

  52. Anonymous says:

    @Cryptic

    “all comes down to how much the woman wants the upmarket dating aspect vs how much they just want the money.”

    This is a great distinction. As you describe, the former is a pleasure to be with and the latter would never be satisfied because she’d be reading Tumblr and Instagram fantasies.

  53. Riviera Undercover says:

    Well there are 13 reasonable new girls in my area, actually 11 as two have used fake photo’s but as they have used the photo’s of attractive girls you would assume they are too? Let’s see how many are abandoned in the next week. I probably renew as it does give me something to do. Then we will see how many are scammers, rinsers, flakes or platonic companions…

    • Anonymous says:

      Wait for 2-3 weeks for the new herd to settle down.

      • yougottabekiddingme says:

        The herd…

        …and you wonder why you can’t find a companion. Go and fuck a goat. Better yet…a herd of goats.

    • Anonymous says:

      So you’ve been waiting for new girls to come to SA since you’ve gone through on all the old ones huh? Like I’ve said before, maybe the problem lies within you Riviera.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        How have I gone through all the old ones? Please expand on your comment? Your advice is invaluable…

      • Anonymous says:

        You seem to be scouting new girls which have signed up. What happened to the current ones?

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        See my post above,also I live in city and region that is not well served by SA. Imagine the Boise of the UK…

    • closeforbusiness says:

      @ Riviera Undercover says:

      I probably renew as it does give me something to do. Then we will see how many are scammers, rinsers, flakes or platonic companions…

      DON’T DO IT, RU! You are looking at 90% scammers, rinsers, flakes or platonic companions. The other 10% are ugly as phuck. I have more than 2 months of membership left. I won’t renew. No way and no how.

      • Anonymous says:

        Then why are you still lurking on the SA blog? I get that vibe that you’d just like to get rid of all the competition.

      • closeforbusiness says:

        @ Anonymous says: Then why are you still lurking on the SA blog? I get that vibe that you’d just like to get rid of all the competition.

        I don’t even live in the UK. I don’t care if Rivera signs up or not. I have more than 2 months membership left, so might have well enjoy the fireworks.

      • Anonymous says:

        Aside from the occasional pussy you get on this site…the blog is the dope.

  54. Anonymous says:

    @Sugar Kell

    “Only crack heads accept a minimal allowance and you know that. Don’t try to act like a “10” will accept $50 a date.”

    Correct…a “10” sober ho will not go for $50 but a crack head “10” ho may go for even $5.

    But what does that have to do with non-ho’s, non-whores, non-prostitutes, non-escorts, non-rinsers, etc.?

    This site is for regular people coming together through some sort of sugar arrangement. A server (which is the most prevalent occupation here) making $1,000 extra through sugar is a lot more believable than her receiving $10,000.

    Typical income of servers is around $20,000/year BEFORE tax. If these women were indeed consistently making even $3,000 – $5,000/month then the ratio of men:women would be 1:80 or 1:800 and NOT 1:8.

    Currently it is 1:8 with all those fly-by-night women coming here, getting disappointed and leaving their abandoned profiles for the stats.

    Having written all that, I know fully well that logic is a foreign language for more women.

    • Anonymous says:

      *most women.

      • Cryptic anomaly says:

        To me it all comes down to how much the woman wants the upmarket dating aspect vs how much they just want the money.

        A SB who just wants money will hold out for the big allowance, they might also go down the scammer route and try and get paid just for meeting, getting to know you stage, just offering platonic etc

        A woman who wants the upmarket dating will see the money/gifts as a bonus as her real goal is to be with a man who will treat her well as opposed to just pumping her and leaving some money on the dresser. These women tend to want a connection.

        These women are usually the minimal to practical group, very unassuming and nice to be around as opposed to the high to substantials who are just very demanding and will want more no matter how much they get.

        I was willing to pay the last pot SB I met $4,000 a month and told her that, her counter request was $2000 she was 19 and very cute. This has happened to me a lot.

      • Anonymous says:

        A woman who wants the upmarket dating will see the money/gifts as a bonus as her real goal is to be with a man who will treat her well

        Yes because this is irl and a regular relationship looking towards marriage and is looking for a long term partner (not just up to a year).

    • Anonymous says:

      @Cryptic

      If you are playing in the $4000/month world you will have your pick of 99% of the Pots -regardless how you look .

  55. Anonymous says:

    Sugar severance?

    Isn’t it interesting that men are oft encouraged to give free money to women whereas I have never seen women being encouraged to give free pussy to men?

    • Anonymous says:

      That is because pussy isn’t bought with money (unless you like pros) so it cannot be used in equal terms. Unless you said love and care…

    • Anonymous says:

      I am going to count on my soon to be ex-sb giving up a month of free humps as I would be giving a severance allowance.

      Sugar is good until it is not .

      • Anonymous says:

        Thus NSA . I don’t want to have to worry about how to end things in the Sugar Bowl . If I want out -I’m out .

  56. Anonymous says:

    For those who are confused about what Minimal is, here are the allowance guidelines:

    Negotiable
    Openly negotiable to any amount
    Minimal
    Up to $1,000 monthly
    Practical
    Up to $3,000 monthly
    Moderate
    Up to $5,000 monthly
    Substantial
    Up to $10,000 monthly
    High
    More than $10,000 monthly

  57. Kristine says:

    These posts are fantastic. Great read! ?

  58. elaine says:

    Promising headline!

    “I will by your discraction. you will not get bord!”

    “I’m an educated woman looking for an equally intelligent man
    I’m certain my brains will catch your heart
    do u enjoy conversations on a top level?”

    Just a profile I saw when I logged in on my fake SD profile.
    Always good for a laugh! :-)

    • Krisssy Kiss says:

      Fake SD account?

      • elaine says:

        Yes, fake SD account.

      • Anonymous says:

        SA should make it possible for members to view profiles of either sex so we don’t have to create a fake gender profile to scope out the competition.

      • Anonymous says:

        Wrong…the more real fake profiles members make the less fake fake profiles will be needed to increase the total membership numbers.

      • elaine says:

        @Anon

        SA LOVES our fake profiles!
        It keeps their fake numbers up without them having to make them up themselves. :-)

      • Anonymous says:

        I guess you are both correct. We are literally doing their dirty work for them. That way, when they get busted like Ashley Madison, they have “plausible deniability”. No sir, we did not employ bots to create fake female profiles. The members themselves did that!

      • Anonymous says:

        Gee, maybe that’s why the members I have sent messages to have not responded to me. I was trying to hook up with dudes! So maybe SA is just like AM. One huge sausagefest….

      • Anonymous says:

        There are enough real members to work with.

      • Anonymous says:

        I can’t imagine the type of person to be bothered enough to create a fake account just to scope up competition.

    • Anonymous says:

      I have a fake SB account :-)

  59. Anonymous says:

    @Jay
    …I personally would just give her allowance for the month of November…

    Jay, great advice! So, would you advise an SB similarly?
    Darling, if your man has been good to you, give him a month of freebies before parting ways?

    • Jaybird923 says:

      If you have to let go of a good employee through no fault of his own a good company usually gives him severance pay. If an employee chooses to leave his job a good employee gives his employer enough time to hire his replacement… but the employer still pays the employee. Does that answer your question? :-))

      • Anonymous says:

        yes, they usually give it out for another month, or at least for a couple of months until that person is able to find and get a job.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        If you know of a company that does that please share so I can send in my resume. If not sarcasm only works if you’re intelligent enough to do it properly

      • Anonymous says:

        Yes, if you’re a technical waste, the government jobs (including the consulates) do that. That is the final package you get. But I am not sure you would qualify for this job.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I don’t need to qualify for the job I’m a double minority. Haven’t heard of affirmative action? Apparently they are just giving jobs away to unqualified people all you have to do is apply. Just post any leads and I’ll take it from there lol

    • Anonymous says:

      @Jay
      most companies do not offer severance packages…once they are done with you, they are done paying you.
      My advice to you, Anon: give her one week worth of allowance. You are not Apple, you are a small business. U have not signed any contracts, this is not a lease where you have to keep paying till your landlord found a suitable replacement. Sugar is supposed to be “fun” money, not a source of income. Believe me, if she had better options, she would replace you in a New York second. The reason she did not, she is lazy and thinks you are too. Since you found better options, pursue them and have fun!

      • Jaybird923 says:

        You’re intentionally disregarding key parts of my posts.

        First statement: “I personally would just give her allowance for the month of November since I’m not ending things because of anything she did BUT DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU AND YOUR SITUATION.

        Second Statement:”If you have to let go of a good employee through no fault of his own A GOOD COMPANY USUALLY GIVES HIM SEVERANCE PAY.”

        I never advised him to do it I said it’s what I would do. I didn’t say all companies offer a severance package. Nice try though :-))

      • Jaybird923 says:

        “Believe me, if she had better options, she would replace you in a New York second. The reason she did not, she is lazy and thinks you are too.”

        Or maybe she could just be happy and satisfied with the arrangement and not feel a need to look elsewhere.

        “Since you found better options, pursue them and have fun!”

        He said they were hot. He didn’t say anything about them being better. He has no idea if they are better or not. Haitians have a saying which roughly translates to “Don’t throw out your old pot for a new one” Our version of the grass is always greener lol

      • FatB'StardSA says:

        @Jaybird

        “I never advised him to do it I said it’s what I would do.”

        It is very easy to be generous with other peoples money bitch.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Ah my retarded friend is back how exactly am I being generous with some else’s money by stating what I would do with my own money?

  60. Anonymous says:

    What is up with people stretching their ears? Just read a couple of SB profiles with stretched earlobes. Does anyone find that attractive? They look really creepy to me.

  61. Anonymous says:

    How old is she? “Sweet arizona honey” allegedly 46.

    • Anonymous says:

      At least 65 years old. Heavy smoker. HS education. Unemployed. Could not put together a single grammatically correct sentence. Two children.

      OMG.

      • Anonymous says:

        This is what is becoming of SA, the last resort of scammers, the deluded, and the ugly. Sorry Sergio.

      • Anonymous says:

        How appropriate, an ugly old witch.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        She’s white, blonde hair, blue eyes, and she’s not platonic… she should do fine :-))

      • Anonymous says:

        Jay of course she could do fine, but bashing women’s appearance has become a sport here. So they have to pick on something.

      • Anonymous says:

        No one is “bashing” her on her looks per se. The post is about alleged age vs photo age. The same can be done about men who claim to be 45 but look 75.

        The real point is that when a man lies about his age he can at least attempt to compensate thru money.

        But when a woman lies about her age, how does she plan to compensate?

      • Anonymous says:

        I never made fun of her physical appearance (although she is truly ugly). I merely said she looked to be at least 65 and her profile claims 46. Have you seen photos of Christie Brinkley? That woman is 61 years old. But even Christie would not claim to be 46 and she is still quite lovely at 61.

      • Anonymous says:

        I made fun of her, but it was a Halloween and she probably does have a broom 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        Goes to show you being delusional is not the exclusive realm of the 18-25 year old rinsers and princesses. You can also find this attitude at the other end of the spectrum. Grandmothers who think SA is not about physical age and beauty. At least she uploaded pictures. Imagine showing up at first meet expecting a 46 year old to showw up and ahe appears instead? I would not even sit down. I would just shake my head and leave.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Anon yes you did, you said ugly old witch..

      • Anonymous says:

        I had one show up and refuse to leave, must have been 55. I paid her as much to go as I was paying a the expected 36 year old for fun!

  62. Anonymous says:

    @Sugar Kell

    “Does she take out of her dentures before or after the act?”

    It’s amazing how Minimal SBs are ostracized here by the “sisterhood” and how the $15,000/platonic date fantasy is cherished.

    • Sugar Kell says:

      Only crack heads accept a minimal allowance and you know that. Don’t try to act like a “10” will accept $50 a date.

      • Anonymous says:

        Sugar Kell is probably a strong independent woman who knows her worth. She would reluctantly accept 10k for sexting. So far she has no takers, but one day her Knight will come for her… Until then she will troll here.

      • London Playboy says:

        I once got a Playboy model to bareback and make a sex tape for £300.00 PPM and I had brought along £1200.00

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Was she one of the original Bunnies from the inaugural issue?

      • London Playboy says:

        No Playboy NSS Lingerie Special. :-)

      • Anonymous says:

        Once again a low amount is being ridiculed.

      • Anonymous says:

        Being in Playboy is easy, they give you 10k to just appear there. Not worth it, trust me, since I have done it a few years back. and most girls came from the countryside, so yeah, not much 10s there.

      • Anonymous says:

        My SB is not a 10 but I would say a 9. Her allowance is $750 a month and we have been together 15 months now.

      • Anonymous says:

        Anon, you know that that’s below minimal right, and there’s no option below that?

      • Anonymous says:

        Yeah and that SB is also earning 15k a month platonic. Who makes these fairy tale stories on both sides?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        And once again another woman who accepted minimum is bsing degraded on the blog. You guys keep complaining about SBs being against minimum but you guys make it hard for them to want to be associated with that allowance class. You guys don’t even respect the women who accept minimum. None of the comments about what they did sexually was neccessary. But the only guys who do that are the minimum guys. I’ve yet to see one guy who pays a higher allowance come on here and do that. Stop making accepting minimum something cheap and dirty and maybe more SBs will see nothing wrong with it. (Sorry for all spelling errors on my phone)

      • Anonymous says:

        You’re reverting to female logic @Jay. Please type a logical message on a computer.

      • The Prophet says:

        If we are going to post allowance qnounts, please include the frequency of visits and if there are other perks (going out, shopping, etc.).
        At 1,000, that’s a couple, or very few, visits per month.
        Why is that bad? Maybe she doesn’t need more.
        On the flip side, I find it funny how women want substantial/high allowance (not including extras) for a couple or few visits per month.
        To assume an SB, at minimal, is at the beck and call of the SD is as absurd as to assume that the substantial/high SB is not.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @ Anon very well I’ll wait. that post didn’t clearly articulate what I meant lol

      • Anonymous says:

        @Theprophet then maybe the SBs want to be at the beck and call of a SD just so they can get those dollars.

      • The Prophet says:

        Yes.
        I think the correct terminology is being ‘available 24/7’. However, the word available would, for the most part, be scratched out.
        They wouldn’t want it under those conditions.

  63. Another Anonymous says:

    @Sugar Kell

    Can you please define WEALTHY?

    • Anonymous says:

      a man who will take me shopping and spend 5k on me, get my weave on n not try n fuck my ghetto ass

    • flyR says:

      We’re making this much too technical. SB wants sugar…….. SD can have high income, no income but lots of liquid assets neither assets nor income but the ability to make good things happen for the SB. The important thing is that the SD can deliver what he promises and that she does likewise.

    • flyR says:

      Wealthy – someone who has 5x more than you do. or enough to make a change in your lifestyle .

      • Anonymous says:

        Wealthy means different things to different people. If a girl is high maintenance because she is used to that lifestyle, for example she makes at least 80k per year herself, then wealthy to her is not a person who makes 90k per year as well. So wealthy to some SBs differentiates based on their current lifestyles, if she’s living in a trailer, wealthy to her is probably even 800 per month.

    • Another Anonymous says:

      @ flyR

      Perfect, great definitions. But it seems to me, that some ladies here define wealthy quite differently. :-)

    • Anonymous says:

      Great definitions @flyR

  64. The Prophet says:

    “Psychopaths cross the line. Sociopaths may hole up in their houses and remove themselves from society, while a psychopath is busy in his basement rigging shackles to his furnace.”

    Psychopaths are dangerous. They’re violent and cruel, and oftentimes downright sinister. They show no remorse for their actions, usually because of a lesion on a part of their brain responsible for fear and judgment, known as the amygdala. Psychopaths commit crimes in cold blood. They crave control and impulsivity, possess a predatory instinct, and attack proactively rather than as a reaction to confrontation: A 2002 study found that 93.3 percent of the psychopathic homicides were instrumental in nature (meaning they were more or less planned), compared with 48.4 percent of the homicides by people who weren’t psychopaths.

    Sociopaths are a different breed. They, too, may suffer from their mental illness as a result of lesioned brain regions. Upbringing may also play a larger role in a child becoming a sociopath versus those that are diagnosed as psychopaths, or the slide into dementia on the other end of the spectrum. Sociopathic behavior is manifested as conniving and deceitful, despite an outward appearance of trustworthiness or sincerity. Sociopaths are often pathological liars. They are manipulative and lack the ability to judge the morality of a situation, but not because they lack a moral compass; rather, their existing moral compass is greatly (yet not always dangerously) skewed. Pemment, for one, says this could point to both a social and neurological component.

    “There are neurological correlates for how beliefs could promote specific kinds of attitudinal or behavioral moral outcomes,” he wrote. “These correlates provide a basis for studying how beliefs create our moral integrity by affecting our empathy circuit. However, a large component of sociopathy involves antisocial behavior, and I am unaware of any neurological study that ties beliefs to antisocial behavior.”

    This means that while psychopathy and sociopathy both likely involve impaired cognitive function, the two differ in which circuits are affected. Psychopaths are fearless; sociopaths aren’t. Psychopaths don’t have a sense of right and wrong; sociopaths do. But both are equally capable of ruining lives and destroying relationships — not that they care.

    • The Prophet says:

      That was from a research paper.
      Over the last 15 years, the research on this topic has been on a different level than the previous times. Including having the ‘science’ to separate the two.
      I worked in this field, for a short time, in my youth.

      • zito says:

        In my mind they both have the psychopathic calling cards, no remorse, lack of empathy and narcissistic tendencies, I have learned that you can be a psychopath without the violent criminal part, that to me is the difference in the two, maybe i am wrong, but the sociopath is the violent criminal, where you can be a psychopath without being a violent criminal, maybe i am thinking of it wrong

      • The Prophet says:

        Sociopath is more like a doomsday prepper.
        Psychopath like Ted Bundy.

      • zito says:

        so what do you call someone that has all the hallmarks of a psychopath except the violent killing?

      • The Prophet says:

        A psychopath will cross the line, even if it doesn’t include murder.

    • zito says:

      Have you watched…i am fishhead? a doc about corporate psychopaths, these are ceo’s coo’s and various corporate leaders, who have all the traits of a psychopath without the violent criminal aspect, maybe it is just an underdeveloped gene between the killing and non killing psychopath

      • The Prophet says:

        You can’t take one or two parts and equate multiple things.
        Just because one has some characteristics, doesn’t mean parity.

    • The Prophet says:

      @ Elaine
      [Quote] Both lack empathy, the ability to stand in someone else’s shoes and understand how they feel.[/quote]

      That’s one characteristic, albeit down the list, more of a psychopath. However, that alone is meaningless. I am somewhat alexithymic, that doesn’t make me a psychopath.

  65. Anonymous says:

    When I joined SA, the website’s definition was:

    An Arrangement is short for “Mutually Beneficial Relationship” between two people. Such a relationship is usually between an older and wealthy individual who gives a young person expensive gifts or financial assistance in return for intimacy.

    Obviously the Feds have pressured SA, since SA is promoting platonic arrangements and paypigs. I live in a country where prostitution is legal. Why hasn’t SA moved abroad outside of the Feds jurisdiction?

  66. flyR says:

    Sometimes I think that SA continues with some success despite their refusal to listen to their customers.

    While their strategy of spreading across the marketspace is very sound in a high barriers to rapid entry works pretty well . It took two or three years to de skank their models.

    Doing some quick searches I think most understand the $20,000 allowances are truly an aberration rather than any reasonable target for 98% of the SB.

    I think they really miss marketing the other elements of the relationships to both SD and SB. Their focus on allowances , shoes and big buck vacations is out of alignment with a very substantial segment of the market.

    • Anonymous says:

      I agree. I have been in three successful arrangements, with attractive, young, beautiful women, whom I saw twice per week, and I have given them only one thousand to two thousand per month as allowance. That has been, for me and them, reasonable. If more women here understood reasonable, more will find successful arrangements.

      • Sugar Kell says:

        SA is about bringing the “fantasy” to life. In normal circumstances, an older man would not be able to snag a younger woman simply by entering the bar and not mentioning his wealth. It is the same for a woman.. a woman wants the fantasy of a wealthy man who is the CEO of a large company and travels the world on his private jet. The Average Joe is not the woman’s fantasy, so why scold women for wanting it on a site dedicated to giving fantasies?

      • Sugar Kell says:

        SA is about WEALTHY men dating younger women. These blog SDs seem to forget that, so they get mad when women won’t accept their “minimal” allowance.

      • The Shadow says:

        So, Mr BigSpender, you actually take pride in, and brag about, being a cheap jerk. You have a lot of company on this blog.

      • Anonymous says:

        you dumb whores keep thinking a wealthy man will spend all his money on you, most wealthy men do not stay wealthy by wasting money on pussy, deal with it

      • The Shadow says:

        So sorry to question you. Your erudite remarks and choice of gutter language clearly show you are a wealthy and classy jerk.

      • Sugar Kell says:

        Anonymous, I think it’s obvious you are not a wealthy man yourself, so it would be wise for you to not act like you know what wealthy men spend their money on. The men got rich just so they could impress women, so let’s not get it confused.

      • Anonymous says:

        yeah, that is why, keep telling yourself that

      • The Shadow says:

        Your Jerk personality was no doubt inherited. Your cheapness and gutter language are probably a product of a junkyard upbringing environment and a third grade education. Nevertheless, I am sure your wealth, class, lack of character and personality will attract all the bottom rung SBs your minute member can handle.

      • Anonymous says:

        The Shadow = The Troll, and you stole that off an earlier post.
        So lame, we can all see through your stupid agenda!

      • The Phantom says:

        And unless you inherited your wealth most Billionaires have come from poor gutter backgrounds. PMSL!

      • Anonymous says:

        @Sugar Smell

        Where on SA does it say the site is for WEALTHY men?

        [https://www.seekingarrangement.com/what-is-an-arrangement]

      • Anonymous says:

        these women posting here have that escort mentality, and are easily exposed

      • Sugar Kell says:

        In the past, before the website overhaul, it used to specifically say wealthy. Either way, it now mentions “successful”. Having an income of 40k at age 50 is not considered “successful”.
        If you want to nitpick the site, it also says:
        Where Sugar Babies enjoy a life of LUXURY by being pampered with fine dinners, exotic trips and allowances. In turn, Sugar Daddies or Mommas find beautiful members to accompany them at all times. We want relationships to be balanced. We give our members a place for this to happen.”

      • Anonymous says:

        @Sugar Smell

        Provide a link to the page?

      • The Shadow says:

        You are, and always will be, a bottom fishing, cheap wannabee SD/Jerk. You cannot change the laws of genetics.

        The Shadow Knows.

      • Anonymous says:

        correction, the shadow hoes

      • ScroogeMcF*ck says:

        Hey, that’s my line. So unoriginal :-(

        Do you not have any original thought?

      • Anonymous says:

        What’s reasonable to you may not be reasonable to others and vice-versa.

  67. Anonymous says:

    How one ends the arrangement nicely? Is is better to do it quickly, like a bulb going out, or kinda fade away?

    • closeforbusiness says:

      Tell your SB you lost alot of money on the stock market and you have to cut her allowance by 50%. Betcha you’ll never hear from her again!

    • flyR says:

      Depends on the reason – where I have had a changed appetite, or something changed ( working in a different area) and she’s upheld her part of the bargain it becomes a test of what kind of a human are you.

      If you have had a great and probably underpriced SB who was having a tough time making ends meet but not constantly pestering you for more then either some notice of severance is appropriate.

      With a few special ones I have provided them with an assurance of “notice” if things changed. In both cases it has been fully reciprocated with more fun . It also helps move the relationship out of the transactional .

      But any assurance comes with a strong condition – that she continues to be as great a playmate.

      Really no different than having a valued employee – I think these work best when you make it an adventure partnership.

      On the other hand if the SB has danced on the edge of your patience and humor then quick and simple may be the best bet.

      • Anonymous says:

        Yes, it is a bit like this – a good employee who really have not done anything wrong, but I want to move on for a couple reasons. Both are new and a very hot ones, but my soon-to-be ex SB has not done anything wrong. So I feel guilty, but i want to move on.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        November starts tomorrow schedule a meet with her this coming week. And just tell her that she’s been great and you’ve had a lot of fun but you’re moving on. Wish her luck and give her a parting gift.

        I personally would just give her allowance for the month of November since I’m not ending things because of anything she did but do what works for you and your situation.

    • IndianaSB says:

      I tend to just tell them it doesn’t work for me. I don’t owe them an explanation so I’ll just tell them I’m moving on. What I see from the girls is they tend to just fade away. Texts slow down and then just die.

  68. Anonymous says:

    Question for SA…does anyone from your marketing team read what’s discussed here?

  69. Anonymous says:

    @Sugar Kell

    “The biggest marketing issue Brandon made was that commercial with an “Average Joe”. He implanted the thought in a broke man’s brain that he is entitled to a woman simply by offering to pay $300 a month for 15 dates a month.”

    Typical idiotic “analysis”. Where exactly Brandon/SA did that?

  70. Anonymous says:

    Short answer is a psychopath is born a sociopath is made.

    • zito says:

      that is actually debatable, but i would tend to agree that you can be born a psychopath in clinical terms and turned into a sociopath due to nurture

    • Anonymous says:

      You can find enough personality treats in successful people to categorize them as psychopath or sociopath…

      People don’t create products/processes/civilizations because they want to follow societal norms. They achieve things because they want to do things differently…THEIR WAY.

  71. Anonymous says:

    unrelated question to this blog…..what is the difference between a psychopath and a sociopath?

    • elaine says:

      Not THAT unrelated!

      Sociopath: Lainey
      Psychopath: Kenna

      😉

    • Anonymous says:

      @elaine,

      Any specific reason why would you plant the idea as Anonymous and then respond to it as @elaine?

      • zito says:

        actually genius, I posed the question as annon, I am curious because I am curious if people know the difference or what people think the popular difference is

      • Anonymous says:

        Genius, so it was YOUR ulterior motive to get people going instead of getting more educated information using Goold? Brilliant indeed!!!

      • zito says:

        I explained why above, I know the difference, but since i am not narcissistic, I was curious what OTHERS had as their opinion

      • zito says:

        and i have no idea what goold is

      • elaine says:

        @Anonymous

        Well dear, you must be mixed up with somebody else because @Elaine can be called a lot of things, but never a coward hiding behind “Anonymous”.

        I leave that honour to others here. 😉
        I just say whatever I feel like and have the guts to show my face with it too.

        And btw, everyone with a higher IQ as the height of my heels, would immediately recognize me on my English anyway.

      • elaine says:

        And the biggest difference between the 2 of them is the difference in absence of concience.

      • zito says:

        Elaine since you responded, I will give you my take. Let us assume that psychopaths and sociopaths are actually clinically the same with the exception that. A clinically diagnosed psychopath is not always violent, where as all sociopaths are violent, many corporate leaders are psychopaths, the walton family for example, sociopaths are the violent killers, that is where my distinction is. so if you have to be one, be a psychopath, not a sociopath lol

      • elaine says:

        @Zito

        I don’t agree, not all socio or psychopaths are violent.
        I think these are quite right descriptions, but what do I know, I am not a psychologist.

        “A psychopath doesn’t have a conscience. He may observe others and then act the way they do.
        A sociopath typically has a conscience, but it’s weak he might feel some guilt or remorse, but that won’t stop his behavior”

        “Both lack empathy, the ability to stand in someone else’s shoes and understand how they feel. But a psychopath has less regard for others. Someone with this personality type sees others as objects he can use for his own benefit.”

      • Anonymous says:

        Don’t worry @elaine…the genius is seeking your opinion instead of learning from psychologists by Googling more authentic information.

      • zito says:

        yeah, that’s what I am doing…lol. The genius knows that in the world of psychology there is no such disorder as psychopath or sociopath, these are mostly pop culture terms, neither is a disorder in the dsm5.

      • Anonymous says:

        Sorry zito I am a miserable troll. Forgive my rude behavior since I have nothing better to do than instigate arguments with you.

      • Anonymous says:

        Genius, as I said before, if DSM5 included them then every person who has achieved anything in a big way would be categorized as one or the other.

      • Anonymous says:

        Forgive me again @zito. I did not take my meds again so calling you names helps! 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        LOL

    • Anonymous says:

      Question: Why would an Anonymous blogger post so many words on a sugar blog instead of posting far fewer words on Google to get a more comprehensive answer? For example: Google…”difference between psychopath and sociopath”

      Answer: Ulterior motive.

      • zito says:

        I asked because theres a hot debate on it in my fb news feed and i was curious what some of the more intelligent sa bloggers thought

      • Anonymous says:

        Again…shows how “bright” you are…

      • zito says:

        yes, yes it does…thank you, I am aware I am intelligent as well

      • Anonymous says:

        Anonymous says:
        October 31, 2015 at 9:54 am
        Question: Why would an Anonymous blogger post so many words on a sugar blog instead of posting far fewer words on Google to get a more comprehensive answer? For example: Google…”difference between psychopath and sociopath”

        Answer: Ulterior motive.’
        My God what an asshole that person is who said that^^. People can ask whatever the hell question they want on here.

      • Anonymous says:

        Aww. Another Anonymous has her panties in the bunch.

      • Anonymous says:

        A bunch on the floor- they are not mine either! ba-dum-tsshh!!

      • Anonymous says:

        I enjoy seriously hurting my enemies, but I wince when I see a kitten mistreated and I want to kill those that have just mistreated the kitten. Am I a psychopath or sociopath?

        Virtual VPN switched on.

  72. Catcher 22 says:

    Fright Night!

    A story that is guaranteed to send chills up your spine: “The Cask of Amontillado”. By (NOT buy or bye) A.E. Poe. It can be found online at “xroads Cask” (A University of Virginia site).

    Happy Halloween.

  73. Anonymous says:

    The two types of women who expect to get 4-5k on the first date as their monthly are the naive and the scammer.
    If you are lucky, it will be the naive…

  74. Josh says:

    Single sentence advice to Brandon–and his marketing geniuses–from his mother:

    Focus on paying clients’ needs and stop egging women on by filling their minds with idiotic expectations.

    • Anonymous says:

      They have to maintain the illusion so new delusional women sign up every day. The turn over rate is pretty high because when these women realize men are not as stupid as they are portrayed out to be, they leave in hordes. How else do you continue an advertised 8:1 ratio?

    • Anonymous says:

      There’s nothing wrong with running cheesy, over-the-to ads. However when they have already signed in then they should be brought back to reality.

      God knows how many beautiful girls descend on Los Angeles every year…but then they have to go thru the ringer to make it big…if they have talent…or not.

    • Sugar Kell says:

      The biggest marketing issue Brandon made was that commercial with an “Average Joe”. He implanted the thought in a broke man’s brain that he is entitled to a woman simply by offering to pay $300 a month for 15 dates a month.

      In the end, Brandon created the site to make money, not to help women or men in the best way.

    • Anonymous says:

      There is nothing wrong with making money. However, either you build a better brand by satisfying the clientele or you lurk in mediocracy…

      I guess Brandon has long made up his mind and if you read his personal blog he is looking to do other things in his life beyond SA while using the SA cash cow as long as it lasts.

  75. elaine says:

    Every single moment Wade’s mum is not keeping a close eye on him, something new pops up;
    Now we have “Pair me up” !?

    How about reading blog and know more about your target, or start listening to your mum, instead of your marketing “geniuses”, Brandon?

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I posted the link to it a while back you must have missed it. It’s another stupid concept that’s going nowhere fast. He keeps creating these new sites and depending on the same customer base to fuel them. He needs to create sites that cater to other people besides the SA members. What’s the point of using those other sites if you’re interacting with the same people you already do on SA?

      • elaine says:

        @Jay

        Yes, I must have missed it then!
        I just saw it when it popped up when I logged in to SA.

        He should better pay attention to the unsatisfied clients leaving SA, and cater to their needs!

      • Anonymous says:

        Can you repost the link? I tried looking for it but got directed to a blackjack site LOL!

      • elaine says:

        Now this is too funny!

        They are advertising : “Other matchmaking services can cost upwards of $10,000 just to join.”
        Wonder if they are referring to this extraordinary success “Perfect arrangement”? ?

        [http://www.pairmeup.com]

      • MissLady says:

        and women get reimbursed for date fees up to $100, guess that would include any necessary tanning, dresses, hair and makeup bought for the date….

      • elaine says:

        Nails @miss Lady, you forgot the nails!!

      • Anonymous says:

        Why do women have to be reimbursed for nails, hair, make up, dresses and tanning for a date? Don’t you already own these things?

      • MissLady says:

        How could I forget that important part! Thanks Elaine lol

        Anon a few blogs back a lady posted about all the effort and money that goes into date prep and apparently you should only go on a date with newly purchased items with freshly applied upkeep.

      • Anonymous says:

        Thanks MissLady. Personally I prefer little or no make up on a girl. And I wouldn’t be interested in anyone with fake everything. I am sure her closet is already full of dresses and don’t need to buy a new one. I really don’t look at nails. Don’t care for that orange-glo look of a suntan either.

      • elaine says:

        Of course we do!
        So that is exactly why we are making fun of the girls who seriously think this is what’s needed to land a quality SD.

        It’s called irony 😉
        …Having to explain a joke…. Now that is soooo NOT funny… :-(

      • noname says:

        jay its called throwing mud against the wall if you throw enough mud some of it will stick to the wall basically they just throw business ideas out there hopeing something will work many companies use this method to generate more revenue but companies that use this don'[t do well i avoid investing in companies that use this method so i think brandon wade is loseing money on SA so he’s trying increasing it in other areas

    • noname says:

      elaine is that brandons latest scam havn’t heard of it but im sure i will

    • Anonymous says:

      Pairmeup

      What do I do if my date asks me explicitly for sex?
      We do not tolerate this type of behavior from our members as it is illegal to exchange money for sex. Let us know immediately so that we can take appropriate legal action against this member.

      • Anonymous says:

        fuck off

      • Anonymous says:

        Do you have a pussy I can fuck, or are you a knob?

        Please capitalize!

      • Kore says:

        Well, if you want to have sex with him, say, “yes.”
        If you don’t, say, “no.”

      • Anonymous says:

        @Kore, it’s not about that, it’s about whether it is legal or not, and it is not legal to exchange sex for money, so there you have it. Most SDs who put down platonic here maybe should not be so explicit about sex and it during the messaging phase as these SBs can report them and file a legal complaint.

  76. clea says:

    This is the call-out/exposure page: [http://igs.me/wellthats_life] of sbrosey

    • Jaybird923 says:

      @Clea Are you disappointed she’s not real? you were defending her and going on about how smart and successful she was.

      • clea says:

        @Jaybird923 I’m not disappointed, hurt or upset. I mean, there are way worse events I’ve experienced in actual life that trump someone concocting elaborate tales on IG. It’s not something new to Social Media it happens often; people make up stories online, things don’t add up, they get exposed. Wash, rinse, repeat. I’ll respond in more detail later, as I find it too much of a fuss to type on a cell.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        No need to :-)) some of those girls are acting like someone died they so wanted this to be real. Lol

      • Anonymous says:

        The real people to whom it happens to, don’t come on IG to talk about it.

      • elaine says:

        @Anonymous

        That makes a lot of sense!

      • Anonymous says:

        some people also think the sky is blue because we live in the eye of a blue eyed giant, doesnt mean it is true, truth is truth and is never altered, just because someone doesnt see the truth, that doesnt make truth less true. I love people who cant see truth or reality, they stick out like a sore thumb, and are easily eliminated from my life

      • Sugar Kell says:

        “The real people to whom it happens to, don’t come on IG to talk about it.”

        They do, but they never EVER mention the SD or have photos of him. Instagram is filled with sugar babies, but they are quiet about the SD to make it seem like they are funding themselves with their “modeling” career.

  77. Anonymous says:

    I think that I have found a Minimal unicorn who is very much into me and is highly appreciative of what I do for her.

  78. Jaybird923 says:

    @MissLady those weren’t even really her picture! She was catfishing someone else! The whole thing is bananas. It turns out the person she’s catfishing has a picture with a new baby. She was probably planning on pretending to be pregnant then posting that picture at the end of the 9 months. I wonder how many people subscribed to find out if she was pregnant?

    • Anonymous says:

      this is a perfect example why I do not twitter, or instagram, who gives a shit what some skank is doing 3000 miles away, my life doesn’t allow me time for that, thankfully

      • Jaybird923 says:

        But your life allows just enough time to log onto a blog and post about how you’re too busy to care about IG and twitter… got it

      • Anonymous says:

        sure, i have that time at 1:30 am on a saturday morning, it wasnt a bust on you, just an observation on those ig girls

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Well most of them are “professional SBs” they don’t have anything better to do. The posts and the comment sections are very entertaining.

      • Anonymous says:

        I am sure they are, but after reading about 5 of them, I think I would want to find them and punch them :)

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Lol don’t do that you might scare them off. Where would @MissLady @ATL and I get our entertainment from?

      • The Prophet says:

        @cutebird
        [quote] But your life allows just enough time to log onto a blog and post about how you’re too busy to care about IG and twitter… got it[/quote]

        It’s about priorities. 😉

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Prophet :-)

    • Scrooge McF*ck says:

      Well I called it out as a scam first, I love the smell of vindication in the morning 😉

    • MissLady says:

      Hmmm, was it catfish or the girl creating a separate sugar profile that got called out??

  79. Anonymous says:

    The genetic basis for instincts among current living human beings were probably formed not only before 500BC, but probably before 5,000BC. The last major genetically transformative event for humanity took place around 10,000BC, when agriculture began. That meant whatever life style and instincts that facilitated agriculture were hugely favored because those humans produced far more viable offsprings than their hunter-gatherer neighbors.

    We have a fair good idea what those instincts were, thanks to the Mayflower experiment by the Pilgrims as well as what happened in the Soviet Russia and in China in the 20 century: socialist group agriculture led quickly to starvation and death due to lack of motivation to work; only the families built around male-female pair bonding responsible for their own little plot of land and reaping most benefits from their own effort led to high agricultural yield and surviving offsprings. Between the years 10,000BC to 5,000BC was probably when the human instincts of men being caring/protective/supplicating towards his own woman and children emerged, as opposed to the group-love earlier.

    In order for modern office gender-neutral/identical work environment to have a genetic influence on human instincts, the “strong and independent” female office workers need to far out-breed the more traditional women over several generations and gradually the replace the latter in the gene pool. Do you see that happening now or ever? If anything, the modern female-friendly work environment is causing the more “strong and independent” leaning women to gradually eliminate themselves from the gene pool, by breeding less, breeding later or not breeding at all. Feminism literally eats its own offsprings.

    It should be quite obvious that the net result of large scale women participating in work force over a few generations will not be gender convergence, but the exact opposite, as the “men-lites” are given the opportunity to eliminate themselves from the gene pool. This may well be the real reason why feminism is facing a backlash in the younger generation: higher and higher percentage of future generations are deriving from the traditionalist gene pool with traditionalist instincts for gender roles.

    • Kore says:

      Oufff… -_-

      Yeah, because society takes the most pride in parasitic women, so they will remain the majority.

      • Anonymous says:

        On the contrary, women play the central role in the survival of the human species; if men did not contribute to women’s lives and the raising of children, men would be parasitic in the genetic sense.

        I’m not at all against women having a rewarding career life of her own; it will keep her occupied for the second half of her life. However, it is important to keep in mind the relatively low probability of success at climbing the corporate ladder for anyone (there is only 1 CEO for a company; most workers never climb to C-level), and the high opportunity cost young women have in their prime reproductive years (unlike men). On top of that, as Steve Jobs once said “everything invented by men will be obsolete at some point”; and Steve was talking about real inventions not corporate frauds like Theranos that just turned “the youngest self-made billionaire” into a girl that wasted 12 of her best years.

        Then there is the simple math: 90+% of the population makes less than $100k by himself or herself. In that situation, having two adult income earners in the household (instead of one) is the most effective way of keeping themselves and their children out of poverty. Winning and keeping a competent man typically more than doubles the resources at a woman’s disposal, as the woman on average is responsible for 80% of household spending.

        Many industries, such as cosmetics and fashion, exist precisely because women recognize the advantage of winning a competent man to join her team.

        How does all this relate to sugaring? I’m not suggesting every SB should be looking for a husband here, LOL. However, for the college age and immediate post-college, sugaring may well be the first adult male-female relationship where the man is significantly contributing material resources to the woman’s well being (as opposed to the free hooker service to boys that the college hookup scene really is). It is a good opportunity to practice the requisite skills for winning and keeping resourceful and competent men, before looking for and locking down future husbands in a few years. “Whoring it up” is not going to make an appealing partner to any man.

      • Anonymous says:

        Everything you’ve said is true if you reduce us to the biological level. Given the complexity of life, it wouldn’t be wise to do so.

      • Kore says:

        That was me.

    • Bartolo says:

      I’m fine with “large scale women participating in [the] work force,” but I prefer to date an average to athletic scale woman. There are a few large scale women on my team at work, and I wish them the best with their struggles with food.

  80. rembodler says:

    To my dear Retired and Sour Escort Adversary…:-)).
    …”Wow…our Remmy Retired Escort Finder friend is back, praising and pushing forth P4P.
    What is new…”

    As has been discussed here numerous times…No P4P is required as soon as you agree to get your monthly paycheck by the end of the month.
    Oh, what is wrong now, Hunney? You do not trust me, sweetie? why is that ? And I should trust you? why is that? Oh, gotcha. Your pimp likes to have money upfront or he beats the $hit out of you…
    What is new…

    • Promise says:

      That reminds me did anyone else here read Zola’s crazy story on Twitter? XD

    • Anonymous says:

      As has been discussed here numerous times…No P4P is required as soon as you agree to get your monthly paycheck by the end of the month.

      Suits you, doesn’t it? The door is always open at the final week of the month to leave, before allowance day comes. Get this in your stupid little head:
      Only rinsers and scammers and escort finders (like you) do P4P. Like I said before I will say it again, look a few blogs back and see how we treated this topic. Very well now, you are dismissed.

      • Anonymous says:

        The only women who push for the monthly upfront are scammers. It is obvious. Normal SBs who have something to offer and know the guy will be back, have no issues with weekly installments.
        Read a few blogs back, you would know.
        Now go back to selling naked pictures on the Internet, while you are waiting for your scam to work

      • Anonymous says:

        Are you shitting me? Look at what happened to Attica. Then also take a look at some earlier blogs. Everyone including josh et al thought that those p4p dudes who write to many sbs are rinsers. So where did we go wrong? What blog back, I am talking about the times when Kenna was here too, but I guess you don’t know that because you’ve just started. Everybody was telling the news sbs to ignore the p4players because they’re mainly pump and dumpers. So the only scammer here is you! It’s like you came alive on the blog after sending multiple p4p offers to women.

      • Anonymous says:

        Your soak the SD’s agenda is showing.

      • Kore says:

        What’s wrong with p4p? I think it’s the least risky and fairest way for both at the start.

        If you get a monthly upfront and discontinue after the first bedding, does it make it less of a pump and dump?

        It’d be like saying, “I feel less used since I got paid for 4 fucks out of it instead of just the 1.”

        It can happen that you meet and you’re just not what he’s looking for. Why then, would you not give him the freedom to walk away from you without having to pay more?
        Just looks like a way for the girl to keep her ego intact.

        The safest way out of this is to choose the SD wisely. This means not being blinded by the size of his wallet or his charms.

        We don’t really know what happened to Attica since she didn’t reveal much.

  81. MissLady says:

    LOL! Ohhhh Jayyyyyy. Madam 15k got exposed lol.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      No way! Hold on let me check it out. Oh my god! Some one caught the license plate too. I thought that was so stupid but didn’t say anything because I didn’t want to give anyone ideas about looking her up. LOL And Rosey using other people’s money shots I wonder if the one with the SD is one of the stolen ones?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I think them claiming the other girl made $600,000 sent the other girls over the edge $15,000 they could believe but $600,000 was a bit too much lol Some of the girls are asking for their $10 back LMAO

      • Anonymous says:

        Every one here at SA pretty much called this one from the start. We all knew it was fake and a scam to get 10 dollar subscribers. Only delusional SB’s believe that 15K/mo for one platonic dinner and 600K/3years for platonic arrangements. LOL

      • rembodler says:

        @Jay
        The only thing I find kind of surprising – is that someone with your intelligence though this to be true…

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Yes you guys called it with the $15,000/dinner but I don’t think anyone on this blog believed the $600k was real

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Remmy I never thought it was true! All I ever said was just because I wouldn’t do it doesn’t mean some else wouldn’t. And mostly I did that because I found the comments and theories amusing and every time I said there was a possibility you guys would get riled up again. LOL

      • MissLady says:

        yeah, if she had kept a low profile and didn’t push it with the 15k she might’ve been able to fake the funk for a while longer. They always do too much and trip themselves up.

      • Scrooge McF*ck says:

        I called it first. Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of tarts? Scrooge knows 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        Was her middle name Brandon?

    • MissLady says:

      lmao! yes when I saw the bff post the car shot with the license plate in it, I shook my head and said it’s about to be all over and just waited for the fall out. Young’uns…smh

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Are you on Sunny’s page that’s where everyone one is ranting lol Highend made her page private again so can’t see what’s going on there and Rosey hasn’t responded yet. Looks like I’m going to have some lively entertainment for a couple of days

      • MissLady says:

        There’s also the person she tagged in her original post that has some action. And that person in turn tagged someone else who first found the problems. Did you read the comments on Rosey’s money fan shot?? If anything goes on with highend, I’ll let you know, but there are a few that this has triggered off LOL. And yeah, I’m watching sunny, she busted Kenna as well (the one that ATL, Y and I have been talking about)

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Yeah I saw that but her page is private too. I think I’m going to have to cave annd actually make an account I’m missing all the good stuff. I saw when they started questioning Kenna but lost track of her page and couldn’t find it.

        And I saw some of the stuff on this blog like when she got caught posting under an alias and tried to pretend it was her coworker. But I don’t the details so I didn’t offer an opinion

  82. Jaybird923 says:

    I give up. I tried but everyone insist on posting people’s profiles on the blog. I won’t say anything anymore

  83. Anonymous says:

    This SD is apparently looking for a unicorn. Must have read the blog and lurk around here.
    e504f3bd

    • Anonymous says:

      LOOK AT THIS GUY. Georgelovesyou e7200cca He wins SD Maniac award of the year.
      Look at those words..you’re probably a whore, that is some classy ish.
      He will most definitely find a SB for himself. Especially since he’s been here for an exact year.

      • SB TVC15 says:

        Now, now. He is the SD, and therefore beyond criticism. SBs must struggle to prove their worth to him.

      • Anonymous says:

        He might be beyond criticism, but he is not much beyond jail time because of his creepy profile vibe. Ugh. Gotta shower after that.

  84. Anonymous says:

    Pero hablo español. I don’t speak inglish.

  85. Anonymous says:

    This SD is apparently looking for a unicorn. Must’ve read the blog and lurk and around here.
    Here he is: https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/e504f3bd/view?dashboard-background-checked

  86. Anonymous says:

    Oh I did. She wasn’t too keen on continuing the debate.

  87. Anonymous says:

    Ok, that worked. Anyway, met a girl, gave her some upfront money to ‘prove myself’ (mistake and learned much from the blog to avoid future problems). Anyway, stopped talking for a bit and she reached out again. Said I was down to hang out, get to know each other and more but no more $ until deal consummated and if she wasn’t interested in that as part of the deal, time to speak up. Had a few dates…a lot of fun…no $, no intimacy. We talked a bit more about the deal and agreed this would work. She asked for a tiny amount of $. I said yes, if she would repay me with a couple of beers or lunch after she got the job she was about to get. She was not happy with me putting expectations on it and I reminded her what we discussed and agreed to and said this can be really easy. We will see what happens, aggravating but at least saving my wallet and pride thanks to the advice here. What do you guys think of the situation?

    • Anonymous says:

      Oh and to add, after she asked for the $, when I reminded her about the intimacy aspect, she would dodge answering directly and would blame me for being like “all the other guys”

      • Anonymous says:

        that is when you remind her that she is being “like all the other girls”

      • IHF2030 says:

        Guys need to remember that there are many women for every available sugar daddy. So you need to have a zero tolerance policy for dealing with any bs or nonsense from these women. You should have said NEXT after she came at you with “being like all the other guys” nonsense.

      • Anonymous says:

        Once she starts comparing you to all the other guys is when you move on to the next one. Sorry to say but this one will never give up her pussy.

      • Anonymous says:

        At least she has the decency to not give it up. Yawn

      • Anonymous says:

        block her and move on

      • Kore says:

        Tell her that if she has a problem with intimacy, it’s over. Your allowance isn’t payment. It’s a present. If she looks at it like she’s getting paid, at the least, she should be clear in what she has to offer.
        If she has a problem with intimacy in general, let her deal with that in traditional relationships. Everyone who’s not clear about this in sugar doesn’t have what it takes to participate. Just because she has a vag shouldn’t disorientate you. Or her for that matter.

        Would you pay full price for maybe getting a car with a functioning engine? No?.. Follow the same principle here. Unless you want to invest in deeper emotions.. That’s a game changer.

    • Anonymous says:

      you are a sucker, or is it your a sucker?….either way, you were fine until she conned you into giving her more money upfront, you say you have taken the advice from here, but clearly, you have not, learn from this and move on

      • Anonymous says:

        No, gave upfront before getting and implementing the advice gotten here. So, thats done…and now that she has asked for a tiny amount more and I asked for a cheeseburger in return, I was not being generous.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Are you the Anon who got rinsed by all those girls or are you someone new?

      • Anonymous says:

        nope, never been rinsed

      • Anonymous says:

        No, gave upfront before getting and implementing the advice gotten here. So, thats done…and now that she has asked for a tiny amount more and I asked for a cheeseburger in return, I was not being generous blah blah

      • Anonymous says:

        Same

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Oh can’t keep track anymore since everyone insist on being anonymous. Anyways time to move on. There is no potential for an actual arrangement. She’s just stringing you along. And she’s trying to guilt into giving her money without up holding her part of the agreement by insinuating that “you are like all the other guys” Don’t fall for it

      • Anonymous says:

        listen to jay, she is right, all you pot sb, listen to the woman jay

      • Anonymous says:

        Oh not going to. I’m just saying. Putting the advice into practice and its great.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        How many is a few dates? After the first meet and greet it should be 2-3 dates max. Anymore than that is a waste of time if she’s not comfortable enough by then she never will be.

      • Anonymous says:

        i sent money wu to the first sb i ever had before we met,it was $100, so not a biggie, it worked out, but anything more than that is ridiculous, you have to be a sucker to send a stranger money of any significance, and if the pot sb cant understand that, she is just looking to scam you anyway, proving their worth is mainly a sb’s job, but, once she proves it, you need to keep your word

      • zito says:

        Jay, this is why I still say vetting is most important, if you can not tell they type of person you are usually dealing with through messages and texts, and phone calls, you do not know the right questions to ask, and you are thinking with your penis

      • Anonymous says:

        3 dates. So, I’m over it. It’s an amazing perspective change after getting some insight here. Its a really eye opening experience and really reprogrammed my brain for the better. Its actually a little comical, but glad its over with that one.

    • Anonymous says:

      Do not give money on the meet and greet. Just wait till you are alone, and obviously heading to a private place, that’s the right time to give the allowance. Because the people who take the money on the meet and greets most definitely will never have an arrangement working out.

    • closeforbusiness says:

      @ Anonymous says:

      Ok, that worked. Anyway, met a girl, gave her some upfront money to ‘prove myself’..

      Just curious, what was your total damage?

    • lurker says:

      She showed long ago she’s not really into you. As soon as I see that, I move on. Unless you’re you get off on making the woman do things she hates, I think you’re wasting your time. Even if forcing the woman to do things she dislikes is your idea of fun, that’s what hardened prostitutes are for.

  88. IHF2030 says:

    I never said anything about p4p! I advocated paying allowance in weekly installments, at first. So, there would be times I don’t see my sugar baby girl for a week or two at a time but she would still get paid via weekly installments.

  89. Anonymous says:

    Interesting. Posted a comment about a situation of an obvious rinse and SA not posting it. Maybe its my computer…lets see if this gets up.

  90. classy_beauty says:

    haha. anyways. I stand by what I was saying before about how many SB our SD should have. In all honesty its a personal opinion.

  91. rembodler says:

    Wow… our Anon Retired Escort friend is back, trashing P4P.
    What is new…

  92. classy_beauty says:

    It makes me classy enough to not argue with someone online.

    • Anonymous says:

      where is the argument? your grammar is that of a childs

      • classy_beauty says:

        only someone immature would spark an argument like you anonymous. so if you want to be real and up front step out of the closet you sitting in and put your shaky fingers to the keys. ahaha dont come for me when you are nothing but a blue label right now.please and thankyou. If you cant say anything productive to the topic then please log off, and no need to reply. I can already tell your an open book.

      • Anonymous says:

        you’re*

      • Anonymous says:

        classy, keep replying, you are making this really easy for me…lol

    • rembodler says:

      @Anon above.
      I suggest go easy on anyone’s grammar, especially if you yourself are on the cell phone. She can now say : “It should be – What is the argument? Your grammar is that of a child’s -you, moron!”And she will be right…

      • Anonymous says:

        there is a difference between grammar, spelling and punctuation, i am not so much a spelling or punctuation nazzi, but if you can not use the correct version of to,too,two,their,there,they’re…you are just unintelligent

      • SB TVC15 says:

        Um, it`s “Nazi”

      • Anonymous says:

        had it with one z, but was still underlined, guess because i didn’t capitalize it, like nazi should be capitalized lol

      • SB TVC15 says:

        If you’re gonna complain about others’ spelling and grammar, your own had better be perfect. 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        you are an idiot, complained about grammar, NOT spelling, everyone misspells now and again, i made that distinction, try and keep up

      • Anonymous says:

        but, i will keep that in mind for your posts from now on, and that is right….”your” posts, not “you’re” posts

      • SB TVC15 says:

        I may be an idiot, but that’s irrelevant to the fact that the difference between your and you’re is a question of spelling, not grammar.

        Wikipedia: “In linguistics, grammar is the set of structural rules governing the composition of clauses, phrases, and words in any given natural language. The term refers also to the study of such rules, and this field includes morphology, syntax, and phonology, often complemented by phonetics, semantics, and pragmatics.”

        Also, I’m an idiot who has better spelling and grammar than you. How’s that make you feel?

      • Anonymous says:

        makes my cock hard, your and you’re maybe be argued as spelling, but my original point was on there and their, which is not spelling, it is grammar

      • SB TVC15 says:

        Um, no, it’s spelling. See above.

  93. Anonymous says:

    @classy_beauty

    Which collage are you studying English at?

    Does writing trashy English makes you “classy”?

  94. Anonymous says:

    @SeekAndHide

    “No old ones? Except Elaine… hm…”

    Don’t call @elaine old. She is bipolar about her age…

  95. classy_beauty says:

    This site is for men and woman with many different options for who they would want and how they would spend there time. If you don’t like it then there’s many more to choose from. This shouldn’t be a long term hearted commitment. this isn’t Eharmony.com..

    • Anonymous says:

      their time*

    • Anonymous says:

      no such thing as “there time”

    • rembodler says:

      Wow… a wise child!
      Well, dear Classy. The problem normally is that women view NSA as “I want my money upfront since the bastard can bolt after I put out -it is NSA. Even if he pays me for the first date, I am not gonna get my monthly from him”.
      Once she gets her monthly allowance, she starts thinking: “I already spent all the money on a LV bag. And I still have to see the bastard THREE more times – no fuckin way – I am worth so much more!!! 3k he gave me for a month should have been for ONE date! Either he pays more or I am out”. And she is out.
      And so it goes…

      • IHF2030 says:

        And that is why shrewd cats pony up allowance in weekly installments at the beginning of any new arrangement.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        If I’m translating her post correctly, I believe she’s saying that this site isn’t meant for long term love matches and anyone looking for something of that nature should try a traditional dating website and stop complaining. I don’t believe she mentioned anything about allowances…

      • rembodler says:

        @Jay
        All I was saying that women always view NSA as “NSA=I can bolt at any time. NSA or no NSA – He owes me my monthly”.
        The reason it becomes a short term commitment is mostly because neither party trusts the other to keep their word.
        So her analogy with eHarmony is wrong. eHarmony IS NSA; SA, if taken responsibly, is very much the opposite, “strings attached”.
        It is a business deal, with both parties going thru with their side of the bargain…

      • Anonymous says:

        @rembodler. The classic epitome of stupidity. What a highly philosophical man, he will be REMembered.

      • Anonymous says:

        I think your agenda (and IHF’s who’s probably your proxy) is to make p4p seem like the norm, whereas if one looks a few blogs back there are many people like Josh, Kenna etc. who tell the new SBs to ignore those guys because they’re pump and dumpers and time wasters and probably scammers too.

      • Anonymous says:

        the sd has the money, he makes the rules, if you find a sucker, great, but the majority of us know we do not need to prove anything to a young woman in advance, deal with it

      • Anonymous says:

        @Anon

        Calling someone “stupid” because you feel like it does not make him stupid. Put forth some logic with your idiotic claim.

      • Anonymous says:

        You do not have to prove anything my dear, but once the panties hit the floor, the allowance comes flying too!

      • Anonymous says:

        The sd has the money, he makes the rules.

        Keep telling yourself that. If you find a sucker great, but don’t go around thinking that you’re the only one who is offering his side of the deal. It is MUTUALLY beneficial for a reason. SBs give their time and love (and yes, intimacy) with a most probably unattractive old guy who they have zero chemistry with in exchange for financial help. So this is a two way street. Just as a SD is picky, the SB is so too.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        “SBs give their time and love (and yes, intimacy) with a most probably unattractive old guy who they have zero chemistry with in exchange for financial help.”

        I’ve said it once and I’ll say it again you shouldn’t be sleeping with someone you have zero chemistry with.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Jay, so you think that a mutually beneficial arrangement is not really mutual, but apparently only upon the SDs part and SBs favor?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I’m sorry but I don’t understand the question try rephrasing it so it makes sense and I’ll gladly answer. I’m not sure what you think I think…

      • Anonymous says:

        reminds me of…i tawt i taw a putty tat jay…lol

      • Anonymous says:

        Jay, you must be pretty slow huh? Read the Anon at 4:32 and then tell me what you think. I am not sure what you think I think of what you’re thinking!

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Either that or I don’t understand stupidity. :-)) Yes the SD has the money he makes the rules you either accept or you move on to an SD who’s rules are more to your liking.

        Now that being said if you are a high caliber SB who is in great demand and sugar is not your sole means of support then you get to make the rules. An SD wants you he plays by your rules or you choose someone who will.

      • SB TVC15 says:

        If sugar isn’t your sole means of support, you can make your own rules regardless of your caliber. That may mean you end up without an SD, but you may well decide that’s preferable to breaking your rules.

      • Anonymous says:

        Jay, you’re clearly showing your true colors from the posts.
        This is a mutually beneficial arrangement Jay, where you’re also contributing, not just the SD. That is the true definition of mutual. But do not worry, we that have been in this game for a while (like Elaine) know better. I wish you luck with your first SD or pots. :)

      • Anonymous says:

        I hope sugar isn’t anyone’s only income.

      • SB TVC15 says:

        Yeah, me too. It’d make them sitting ducks for the type of mouthbreathing, chestbeating primates we hear from way too often on this blog.

      • Anonymous says:

        @Sb that is funny! The SA Blog is whole other world which transports you back to the year 500 BC. Men gather resources while the women bear their offspring. Sometimes they come to the realization (and civilization) that this is 2015 and it’s kinda cute.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Well It would make sense that my post shows my true colors. I haven’t deviated from my point of view since I’ve been on the blog. I don’t try to change or alter my thoughts to pacify others. Some times the guys disagree with my opinions and some times it’s the ladies but I always remain true to who I am.

        On another note I have no idea how you arrived at the conclusion that what I said means an arrangement isn’t mutually beneficial. If you like the SD and agree to his rules then you get your funds and he gets someone who meets his requirements. How is that not mutually beneficial? Yes SBs contribute to an arrangement but if what you’re offering to contribute is not what the SD is looking for he’s not going to pay for it.

        What you have to contribute gives you very little bargaining power unless it’s something that is in high demand. If no one wants to pay for it what difference does it make if you have it to contribute?

        And thank you for the well wishes but I do just fine. You’ll notice I never come on here complaining about a lack of suitors :-))

    • Anonymous says:

      @rem

      Right on the money.

      • Anonymous says:

        which is the best reason to do pay per meet, it is the fairest for both parties, the two parties need to get over the stigma of how it looks however, atleast for the first 4 or 5 meets

      • Anonymous says:

        It’s not about how it looks, it’s about being a JOHN, because most of the men would pay once per meet and then probably BOLT too so anyone who does it is just stupid.

      • Anonymous says:

        as opposed to paying the woman a month in advance, she would never bolt, i have never had a problem with pay per meet, and many have built trust and turned into monthly allowances, i would never do it any other way, i dont need to

      • Anonymous says:

        I hope you have luck and get all the quality you need. I can only imagine the kind of girls who do p4p (hint:escorts).

      • Anonymous says:

        i have had plenty, you must prove your worth to me, not the other way around period

      • Anonymous says:

        A self-entitled SD. Glad I found one.

  96. classy_beauty says:

    if your not fully committed to this man then it shouldn’t matter.He’s not going to change his lifestyle for you. Especially if hes married, if he cant change it for his wife then he definitely wont do it for you.

  97. AliceS says:

    Oooooh I see :)

  98. SeekAndHide says:

    Knock knock :) just stop by to see what’s new. And everything I’d new. No old ones? Except Elaine… hm…. not even Josh? Damn it was a while

  99. Anonymous says:

    Where is @georgiapeach at? I miss her posts trying to bone fundude.

  100. Riviera Undercover says:

    My membership has expired, and the last two contacts are the usual nutjobs. One stood me up for lunch, the other wasn’t interested after I declined to send an advance or to buy naughty photos…

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      Should I rejoin after three hot girls signed up in my area, or wait a week for them to abandon their accounts?

      • Anonymous says:

        wait a week….also see how many message you in the meantime….im up to 300+ messages since my membership expired

      • noname says:

        don’t renew take a break from the sugar i know its addictive but sometimes its best to walk away from it

      • Anonymous says:

        While he takes a break, he will get older, fatter, balder and the allowance expectation will slightly increase each year goes by. Great!

      • Anonymous says:

        he may get older.fatter, and balder, but we all know…money is the great equalizer

      • Anonymous says:

        That’s what I’m saying, he will have to make up for his shortcomings, namely each wrinkle and every single grey hair.

      • noname says:

        anon he’s not getting anything now so what is he loseing

      • Anonymous says:

        He has to post his profile so we can help him. We all know SBs don’t care about looks but about dat wallet.

    • noname says:

      riviera i don’t know you other than you can’t seem to find a decent SB there does seem to be a lot of fakes in the UK

      • Anonymous says:

        Maybe the problem lies with Riviera since we don’t know anything about him and/or his profile and what it attracts.

      • noname says:

        thats why i don’t respond to ladies from there anymore what kind of allowance are you offering i know its expensive to live there

      • Anonymous says:

        I am not sure what you mean but most metropolitan cities are expensive because of that kind of lifestyle so generally there will be a high demand of high expectations. But it could happen anywhere really.

      • noname says:

        agreed anon its expensive in any of the mayjor cities but ive found london england worse than the rest for cost again i don’t know riviera or where he is exactly so im just quessing the causes of his problems

      • Kore says:

        @noname The English speaking countries have the most people on SA, so they bring in the most scammers with them as well.

        I was wondering this about the UK too. Quite a few are fakes. Thought the U.S. was the same.. ?

    • Anonymous says:

      If only you’d just bought those naughty damn photos…

  101. Anonymous says:

    OK ,enough of the topic. No Sex arrangements

    I have been talking to an acquaintance who paid $175 to M&G a college hottie and is going into an arrangement with her for striptease only for $275/visit.

    Besides being stupid as shit ,how could someone do that? Maybe there ARE guys who pay astronomical amounts to hang out . Maybe he lost his penis in Iraq ? BTSOOM

    • Anonymous says:

      the vast majority of men who pay women to just hang with them or do mainly platonic things are creepy, awkward socially, and not men you would want to hang out with normally. It is actually quite simple to engage a woman in conversation, and as a man who has built a career on being compensated for advice, it still blows me away that not everyone has figured this out. I am no genius, so I figure if I can do it, it cant be that hard. You listen, pay attention, and you dont push your own agenda, helps to be witty and comical as well

    • Anonymous says:

      I do not understand the fascination with striptease and lap dances. You still come home totally horny with blue balls. So what do you do, do you jack off at home then? For $275 he can see an escort and get and BJ and sex.

      • Anonymous says:

        And catch chlamydia too while he’s at it.

      • AnonymousSSSD says:

        If I’m going to self satisfy, I’ll save my $275 and look at free internet porn instead. Been to a strip club once in my life years ago. It was a complete waste of money.

      • Anonymous says:

        Lap dances have never done anything for me . Some guys-maybe teenagers, ejaculate when some cute girl rubs against them ,but not me. I need the full monte.

      • Anonymous says:

        Even as a 20 something when i would go to a strip club after golfing, I understood it was a total waste of money, i felt like a genie in a bottle being rubbed down by the strippers, which they didnt like hearing btw

      • Anonymous says:

        You don’t think you can catch chlamydia from having sex with an SB? You are more likely to catch something from a promiscous girl you meet at a bar than an escort who practices safe sex.

      • Anonymous says:

        Escorts mostly don’t practice safe sex, and even if they do, you still can catch an STD from exchanging body fluids.

      • Anonymous says:

        I’ve had chlamydia twice from fellatio and covered FS with escorts years ago. Not too safe .

    • Kore says:

      Ot maybe he just has money to throw away on what he likes. Maybe her strip tease is going to more fun than a starfish that has issues because she’s actually not attracted.

      Are we going to criticize everybody for how they spend their money now?

  102. Kore says:

    @Dovetail I agree with you on quite a few of your points! But this will be a tough battle since the people it matters to (men) and the people who conform to it (women) make the majority.

    The very few who understand things like this are.. so few that speaking about such things out loud will just cause more hate than anything else.

    Men don’t give a fuck. All most of them pretty much want is exclusive pussy and tenderness. They have neough self control to show that they don’t care if you secretly masturbate to someone else (who might provide you with more affection they “can.”)

    What it boils down to: The amount(!) of money versus the amount of shits he can afford to give about a girl’s emotions….
    At least, I think it’s like this for non-surperficial girls?

    If men decided to destroy their personalities and accept certain responsiblities in order to save a relationship, they could. It’s not smart, but not impossible…

    • Dovetail says:

      My thoughts on the opposition from women to poly or multi dating is that if a MAN is allowed to be non-monogomous, she gets less of the cut of his total resources. OMG poly is horrible, that means that I have to share his resources with another woman, and shit if he doesn’t marry me then who will take care of me for the rest of my life, who will be my ATM, and omg I might not inherit his total assets when he dies”

      It’s a money issue. For a woman she wants to be his sole financial beneficiary, and another woman is a threat to that.

      • Dovetail says:

        I know it’s been said before on here, and argued with it because it’s not me, it’s not who I am, and so I didn’t see it. The more I see of the blog though, the more I realize that there is something to this whole thing, we see the world as we are, so it didn’t occur to me that the “financial value” thing was true.

      • Dovetail says:

        Officially feels naive.

      • The Prophet says:

        For me, I wouldn’t say it is a financial thing, per se.
        I am more generous with someone I have chemistry, a connection with, over someone I am just hooking up with.
        Lust is worth less to me than an actual connection.
        And yes, if there is that connection, exclusivity matters.

      • Kore says:

        Huh? Dove.. Yeah, what I meant with money vs. emotions (I’d had a few beers by then, else I would’ve been clearer) is that at some point, a girl could think, “if he doesn’t want to emotionally invest, at least he shows he cares by financially investing.”

        The amount of money (I’ve mentioned this before) is just of total insignificance. It won’t be anywhere close what he’d offer a wife or girlfriend anyway. He just gives what he can afford. Money wise and emotionally as well.

        Putting a price on any part of me would piss me off. The richest man in the world isn’t guarenteed my mind – if he’s a jerk, I’d still reject him.

        There’s only one of my personality. There are plenty of bodies like and unlike mine that people trade for money. Anyone’s body is simply going to be worth less than their personality.

        So if it comes down to the allowance. I am happy with thinking that it’s just a perk of the relationship. If the SD should show any sign of it equating to the value of any part of me.. I’d hand it to the hobo I find squatting on the sidewalk.

      • Kore says:

        That being said. I simply won’t enter any kind of relationship where I am not on equal terms. No discussion necessary.

        What a man does/does not want, blah blah.. Why negotiate after starting something? We’re either going to fit or not. It’s that simple. I don’t care much for whether I get less of his resources or whatever else entails being one of two+. Some girls will definitely be ok with that.

        I’m open to compromise for sure, but when it comes to core values, it’s a take it or leave it to me. I don’t care to discuss these things with people who think very differently from me who I could’ve potentially dated. It’s a turn off. The only exception is for conversational fun.

  103. MissLady says:

    $50?!?!? You feeding these hoes too good, they’ll get fat and lazy, tell him to have a coke and smile and call it day, that’s how SD’s get entitled….

  104. Anonymous says:

    How to make yourself feel good on a Friday:

    Hot Celebrities, Ugly Kids.

  105. Anonymous says:

    I will come to the blog persons meeting if women promise to out out.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Are you going to be paying an allowance? You know the blog rules…Panties on the floor = allowance in hand. lol

      • AnonymousSSSD says:

        I’m sorry, but this is a platonic only mixer. Sd’s will still need to have the allowance in hand though. Lol!

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I’m not paying for platonic. Only Betas do that. I’m offering Chocolate coins for an overnight and an Omaha Steak gift certificate for $50. Take it or leave it plenty of SDs out there…

      • MissLady says:

        $50?!?!? You feeding these hoes too good, they’ll get fat and lazy, tell him to have a coke and smile and call it day, that’s how SD’s get entitled….

      • Jaybird923 says:

        LMAO I’m not salty. If you can’t be a high roller like me you got to get out of the game Miss Lady. Besides I need to keep them well feed can’t have them passing out I plan to get my money’s worth

      • MissLady says:

        Who says I’m not a high roller, it’s just that I have a hot body so I don’t have to be a beta and throw my money around. That’s what’s wrong with these SD’s now, too well fed they’re going to pass out regardless

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Ahh. Very true I forgot about the hot body deduction. I’m amending my offer to one fun size snickers bar and a coupon for buy one get one free Whopper at Burger King.

    • Anonymous says:

      Strip clubs have great happy hours. 😉

  106. Kore says:

    Welcome back, @Zito!

    @SD
    “An SB juggling more than one Daddy is escorting..”
    “SD seeing a non-escort SB ,even several is not a John if he is not seeing escorts . Now if he is seeing an SB/escort then he is a John.”

    What?! 😀 Are you going to tell me next that the most masculine man is the one who has the most women exclusive to him?
    I’m sorry you measure a great deal of self-worth through this. It’s weak, superficial and primitive. And it truly objectifies women.
    This is really an example of beta masculinity – to be unwilling/unable(?) to provide more than money and sperm (because many, MANY men are willing to provide that, even to less than average looking girls). What is the next determiner for a healthy girl then?… Personality!

    If genetics plays a role in mental make up, then I’d opt for a man who is best adapted to the current social environment and who can continue to adapt to changes. Perhaps your thinking would’ve been perfect ages ago or in some places in the world today, but not in many places. I sure hope that you’re saying this because you’ve had a few bad experiences!

    @Jay Sure, it comes naturally to you and it keeps some doors open that are closed to me, but it works to my advantage. I will end up meeting someone who has similar ideals as well (harmony).

    Still, I don’t feel there is any reason to be ashamed of banging multiple men. (Men don’t face as much criticism for it as women.. Do we even have a word for ‘male slut?’) Especially since multiple men in the world are attractive and have great character. It bruises the male ego and makes them insultive. Some women will follow suit as it works in their favor. Honestly, I’m lucky enough to have enough great men around me who think otherwise for it to not make a difference.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Here’s the thing Kore my comment wasn’t a criticism of how you choose to live your life. You are an adult you can date as many men as you want. My comment was in response to this portion of your post:

      “Put yourself in a SB’s shoes. Wouldn’t you feel insulted that someone asks you to be exclusive to them because they pay you money?”

      Not everyone would feel insulted or even care if they were asked to be exclusive like in my case that would be the outcome whether it was requested or not. My stance has always been if “I am happy and satisfied I have no need for anyone else and if I want someone else then I have no need for you.”

      • Anonymous says:

        Furthermore, to answer Kore’s orinal question “Put yourself in a SB’s shoes. Wouldn’t you feel insulted that someone asks you to be exclusive to them because they pay you money?”

        John’s usually do not ask the prostitute to be exclusive to him because he is only giving her a trifling fraction of his resources; husbands usually do ask wives to be exclusive (actually “demand” but of course the ultimate control of sex access is her own right) because he is making significant resource commitment to her in a partnership.

        Sugar being a spectrum between escorting/whoring on one end and pair-bonding on the other, you tell me which end of the spectrum and which male expectation should make the woman feel more insulted.

      • Kore says:

        @SD Also, none of my exes have asked me for exclusivity since in a regular relationship, you typically avoid investing in people who can’t offer you what you want. (You wouldn’t go up to a prostitute who loves her job and who is otherwise completely to your liking and ask her to be your SB or your girlfriend.)

        You offer what you want and can, expecting it in return. If either one has proof that that is not the case, they end it and move on. That’s all it takes. A natural sugar relationship doesn’t have much reason to be very different than that if it’s truly not escorting.

      • Anonymous says:

        “@SD Also, none of my exes have asked me for exclusivity since in a regular relationship, you typically avoid investing in people who can’t offer you what you want. (You wouldn’t go up to a prostitute who loves her job and who is otherwise completely to your liking and ask her to be your SB or your girlfriend.)”

        Please don’t take it personally, as it is a mistake that many college girls make: re-read what you just wrote, and ask yourself, what did it say about how the ex’s were treating the relationship.

        Yes, most college hook-up’s are just cheaper alternatives than visiting an escort, for the men who can’t quite afford to be responsible adults yet.

      • Kore says:

        “ask yourself, what did it say about how the ex’s were treating the relationship.”

        They were all COMPLETELY very differnet from one another. The fact that they didn’t ask me for exclusivity had nothing to do with them. It had everything to do with my. My ideas of love were very conservative and traditional.

        I’ve only had three. The first was an asshole, sure. the second an angel and the third was closest I’ve see, to perfect.

      • Kore says:

        @Anon “Yes, most college hook-up’s are just cheaper alternatives than visiting an escort, for the men who can’t quite afford to be responsible adults yet.”

        No one cares. It’s not a sin to sleep with people you don’t get married to. Get over it.

    • Anonymous says:

      The issue is not shaming, but economics: desirability to men. Women control sexual access, men control resource commitment.

      Regardless how much bra-burning feminists would like to alter the reality, no man is going to make substantial resource commitment to a girl pulling a train at the bra burning party even if he enjoyed being part of the gang banging of her. Frankly, high quality man with options would be turned off by the gang bang scene and not even participate, regardless how hot the girl is.

      Projection is dangerous and counter-productive. Men and women are wired quite differently when it comes to sexual turn-on’s and turn-off’s. For a woman to assume men would find women with multiple partners attractive because most women find men with options attractive, that is about as silly as for a man to assume women find “rescuing” him would make him attractive because most men have an instinctive desire to “rescue” women.

    • SD says:

      @Kore

      You are adorable ! It is what it is.

    • Kore says:

      @Jay I didn’t feel criticized, and even if, I am ok with that. If I see a good reason to change my mind about something, I will. I was just baffled by SD’s hypocracy.

      You’re right, not everyone would feel insulted. I do, though, since the moment he asks me for exclusivity, before even physically being around me, nevertheless, I find it becomes transactional.
      He’s pretty much saying he doesn’t care what kind of person I am so long as he’s the only one who has access to my body. Because that’s all it takes for him to offer any girl his money.
      It’s cheap and I can do much better than that. Why would I choose someone who doesn’t care about all or more of me over someone who does?
      I won’t let any amount of money effectively reduce me to a private sex doll. If that’s what I wanted to be, I’d do what some girls do and just make a few babies with a rich guy and secure a life of luxury for the next 18 years. Dump his ass asap and move on to the next one who can overlook the kids.

      OTOH, if there is genuine chemistry, then I’d naturally lose interest in other men, but the fact that they feel the need to ask, before even knowing how I am with them is a total turn off. It’s insecure. I’d rather have a man who doesn’t have to ask, I give without him having to. If the relationship takes a course we don’t like, we walk away with respect towards one another, without any drama.

      • SD says:

        I require monogamy of my ladies @Kore. Naturally I would prefer that it is voluntary ,because in the end ,who can prove that one’s partner is not cheating anyway ? If I am committing significant resources -both emotional and financial I do not want to be taken for an ATM sap.

        “He’s pretty much saying he doesn’t care what kind of person I am so long as he’s the only one who has access to my body’ That is incorrect. I care about the kind of person I am with otherwise I wouldn’t be with her at all. That is why I seek an SB and not an escort-who does bang multiple guys for money .

      • Kore says:

        @SD Then, if it were between you and I, I’d prefer it like this:

        You don’t ask for intimacy, but you make it clear that once we are comfortable with one another and comfirmed attraction/chemistry, it should be discussed. I would understand, then, that it’s important to you and I would follow up with honestly reporting to you whether I am seeing someone else – I’d go to efforts, to prove it if things should go well. We’d either stop seeing one another in the worst case, or if you’re going to be with me and expect exclusivity, you’ll have to reciprocate since you hold it in high regard.

        Men have ego, but so do women. I wouldn’t be ok with being second or even the favorite ‘base bitch’ to anyone. Men can’t buy their way out of this with me.

      • Anonymous says:

        @SD how do you know she bang others for money, maybe she has a bf who she bangs for free? That won’t make her an escort.

      • Anonymous says:

        Actually it does make her an escort (to a lesser degree than a “common whore” of course): if she has a BF on the side, then the relationship she has with the SD is a matter of charging an admission fee. Sure, most sugar relationships start with the girl’s ego being stroked by being able to finagle an “admission fee” from the SD (let’s be honest, most girls are not able to, only the attractive ones can pull it off), but over time, if it fails to transcend to “mutual attraction” then it becomes a sex-for-hire situation. The presence of a bf on the side goes a long way towards disrupting a healthy relationship developing between the SB and the SD: the surplus of money actually makes the wife more attracted to the pool-boy/boy-toy; woman’s hypergamous urge is highly circumstance-dependent: wealth makes her less appreciative the one making it possible while making the “strange” especially attractive . . . difference in this case: the SB doesn’t have an ironclad divorce protection under Marriage 2.0 like wives do, so she would become the ultimate victim in her own sabotaging of the relationship from which she is deriving resources.

        @Kore, being exclusive to him might be a necessary but not sufficient condition, so he was clarifying that ahead of time in order to avoid wasting time. Although I don’t explicitly ask ahead of time or even at first date, I do tend to pick girls between relationships instead of an SB who has to sugar in order to support a loser bf.

        If a girl is not exclusive to me, then she is good for a few pumps before dumping if she is hot, just like the college hook-up scene. Her offer of exclusivity makes her worthy of keeping and high rewards.

      • Kore says:

        @Anon I agree, with having the bf. The escort will always remain someone who values money above all. I don’t like superficiality, but if they want to live life in a way that doesn’t bother me, then I won’t judge. Especially without knowing why.

        I’ve just pointed out how clarifying ahead of time is not the best approach to a girl who thinks this way. If a SD wants something with me, he will have to invest more than his money. If he wants something natural, he will have to not ask for exclusivity just as a boyfriend or husband would not. No partner has ever asked me, ‘Hey, will you stop fucking other men?’ And it will never happen.

        I know that men are actually looking for love. Simulated, it can be worth the money.. But it’s not just show for me. I give a damn about very few people, but when I do, it’s not worthlesS.

        The problem is…….. not just sex, but love becomes almost a ‘choice’ for so many women because there is a high demand for pussy. Ironic.

        You can lie to yourself via exclusivity, etc.. In the end, someone values you or not. You’re either sexual fulfillment to them or not. It’s no awesome to guage self-worth on that, since no one can have total control over their instincts.

        It’d be best to chose someone who values the parts of you more than your money/looks. Not very complicted?..

    • Anonymous says:

      Don’t change Kore! People have to understand that double standards in the sugarbowl are not accepted unless discussed beforehand with the person.

  107. IHF2030 says:

    I’ll happily put my short, fat, bald magnificent self on display in Vegas for all to see. I’m not proud.

    • MissLady says:

      LOL! You’re probably right, Vegas would probably suit this blog dynamic a lot better, but we might have to do something more middle of the road for the marrieds to be able to pull off (in the event they decide to join)

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Someplace like Chicago @Lady? Where they can say It’s a business trip and be believed. I definitely wouldn’t go there for fun.

      • noname says:

        misslady Vegas would be perfect everything about this sugar life is a gamble lol

    • MissLady says:

      When I first read about the idea, Vegas was my first choice lol and @Jay you must’ve been reading my mind, cause Chicago came in when I thought about a cover story LOL!

      • Jaybird923 says:

        lol I’ve been to Chicago many times over the past few years and every time I go I like it less than the time before. The whether sucks and I think it’s so dull. The only thing I’ve ever enjoyed is the Jazz festival they do Labor day weekend in the park.

      • Vegas would be a great location to outsource anal.

      • Re Chicago…

        I wanna rub my clit against the bean.

        Uh huh…

        …but only from like May through October. No pussysicle.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @YGTBKM LMAO Good point I didn’t think about the potential for outsourcing

      • Anonymous says:

        jay..the whether? c’mon man, you are better than that

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Anonymous LMAO AND? What’s wrong with that? That’s the way my collage professor told me to use the word.

        But seriously I didn’t even catch that. I really have to stop using that voice to text feature and the stupid text prediction thing on my phone. I just hate typing using touch screen devices.

      • @ Jay

        Outsourcing is essential.

        In one rare case, though, I was able to create the illusion of anal. This guy I was dating thought we were having anal, but really he was just sliding his penis between my glutes. Bah!

        “You like that cock in your ass, baby?”

        Took everything I had not to laugh out loud. Told him it was the best anal Id ever had. I just couldnt bring myself to ruin the fantasy for him.

      • Anonymous says:

        Baby Y, you must have some bodacious cheeks ! Most of us usually know where our penie is at all times

      • Am slim with soft curves, actually. I think it was his missionary anal debut. I imagine that it’d be something like sliding your penis between breasts?

        Have had more than once the “mistaken attempt at the wrong hole.” Not sure that it’s not another “just the tip” thing that guys try to pull, though. Hehe.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @YGTBKM LOL He was probably telling all his friends about how he was the best you ever had.

  108. Jaybird923 says:

    Reintroducing the topic of a get together for blog participants that IHF brought up… How many people would be interested in setting something like that up?