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How to Give Sustainable Sugar

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Sugar comes in all forms. But no matter how it presents itself, it’s always undeniably sweet.  While allowance may be the most traditional, and in many cases, sought after form of steady Sugar, times are changing in the ways it can add sweetness to a Sugar Baby’s life, without being sugar supplements.

The bags may be beautiful and the shoes are timeless, but take a look at some other rewarding forms of Sugar today.

Travel

Those who claim travel is the only thing you buy that makes you richer clearly never had a Sugar Daddy to foot the bill. The ability to travel to distant places that many others simply jot down on their bucket lists is uniquely rewarding.  Whether traveling allows you to gain culture or a glowing tan, exploration is always enriching.

Mentorships

Mentorships can be rewarding a lot further down the road for a Sugar Baby with her eyes on the prize. Young, ambitious Sugar Babies are looking for guidance that only someone as experienced and knowledgeable as yourself can provide. Life experiences and lessons can provide some wonderful insight early on to help them reach their full potential, and have you to thank!

Jobs or Internships

For a Sugar Baby with major career goals, there is nothing quite as valuable as hands on experience to learn from and to grow an impressive resume that will stand above the rest.  The job market is stiff and no matter what they say, who you know plays a factor.  Helping a Sugar Baby to be “in the know” is invaluable to these goal oriented ladies.  

Living Expenses

Taking on the living expenses of a Sugar Baby may be daunting to newbies, but it becomes mutually beneficial in many ways.  Your Sugar Baby won’t have to waste her time working numerous dead end jobs to pay for an overpriced one bedroom just to keep herself out of the dorms. In return, it frees up her time and availability to you, not to mention her gratitude which can be quite rewarding on it’s own.

Upkeep Expenses  

Ask any female, even the most au natural, and they will express to you the ever growing cost of upkeeping their appearance. Sugar Babies are the cream of the crop, so it goes without saying that these demands exponentially increase since they like to look the best for their Daddy! Taking care of this for her guarantees your Sugar Baby will always be a vision of perfection, with an added smile on her face thanks to you.

 

What is your favorite type of sugar to provide?

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1,695 Responses to “How to Give Sustainable Sugar”

  1. Agitato says:

    I don’t know where my head was before I discovered the SD/SB thing. It’s been like finding bags of gold everywhere you look. I’m amazed at how many gorgeous women are out there willing to do it. Nothing but good experiences. Had fun, made some great friends. Frankly, if you’re having trouble making this work, then maybe you should take up Bonsai or woodburning or learn to do floral arrangements.

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  3. LatinBloodUK says:

    Hi Girls,

    I never been a SB before. I do have a good career, but I am tired of fending for myself to all the stuff I want, And to be honest? I always liked older guys so it is a kinda win win situation for me.

    I don’t know how to approach the subject of what I want.

    Do you messages the men or wait for them to message you?

    Thanks.

  4. Bryan Cocca says:

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  5. Laura says:

    Further to earlier re:”Anonymous” troll’s missive
    I am not “working” here lol
    It was meant to be about treats and knights to the rescue :p
    Actually the most refreshing site without the usual bullshit from desperate dicks who simply cannot afford to marry and hope to meet that mythical non-lesbian feminist 😀 😀

  6. Laura says:

    Arrghgh!!! Offers of mentorship from men who earn less than I do are truly annoying. Properly generous income allowance and gifts of flats/houses/nice cars please 😉

  7. Daddy Test Driving says:

    Could anyone confirm me if SB can open their messages even without upgrading?

    I am test driving this before deciding to pay. I was burnt before on sites where I paid the service, but the girls could only open messages if they upgraded.

    Well, since I have received messages that I cannot open, I am wondering. If I upgrade and then message a SB, can she open it? Or only profiles both SD and SB upgraded can read?

  8. Starling says:

    I’ve had all kinds of offers on this site. Though it mostly comes down to sexual encounters there ARE sd’s out there who are interested in more. It usually doesn’t come right from the start though, but after a few months of getting to know one another and building trust, it’s always a good idea to start planning a little getaway for you and your favorite sb!

  9. Anonymous says:

    Sustainable sugar: I’ll say it, since no one else has the balls to [apparently]. What do men want on this website? Don’t for one fucking second say “companionship, travel buddy, friend, blah blah blah”. No. All signs lead to getting laid. & women? Not your run of the mill, I’m desperate for any thing type of woman… Real women. What do we want? Money. No gift certificates, no gift cards. Can’t led hard cash in our hand or in our bank account. So, the “sustainable sugar”, which I would consider icing on the cake. Designer items are nice. A new car if I’m constantly traveling to see you wouldn’t be unrealistic. Rent paid, utilities paid, bills paid…. That is what we want. Any woman who tells you differently.. She’s full of shit.

  10. ampersand says:

    Being new to the site, I have a few questions for both SDs & SBs.. If you would be so kind to answer 😉

    It just has to be said, my info in no way, shape, or form screams airhead bimbo wanting your money. I am very honest about who I am, what I. Looking for, etc..

    So why do I keep getting these guys wanting to hook up a few times a month but pay me per time? Uhh… I didn’t sign up for that. Or I have these ogre like bro skis that are out of their god damn minds if they think I would ever fuck them. I am carrying on conversations via the website & text that are much more up my alley, but hat gives?! I had a guy offer me $1000 to meet 4x a month for sex. $250/night? Check craigslist bro. Not trying to stroke my non existent ego, but I know I’m a very pretty woman. 5’6″, 130, 36 C enhancements that do not look or feel fake , 38 size hips, small waist, veneers, long blonde hair, blue green eyes, nice skin.. I was in the 2011 Hooters Calendar, won 2nd place in the elegirl model search, one of the images from my portfolio was chosen as photo of the day on onemodelplace.com… Again, not bragging but I know I’m a pretty woman, but I was also super awkward & had a very unfortunate stage of puberty that lasted 7 years. I’m still a very sweet kind hearted woman to the core. Why do these men try to price me at backpage ads? If you just want to get fucked, this is t the right place (In my own humble opinion anyway). I put a price on my time & I’ve had a few men say they couldn’t afford it…. My response to that. There.p’s always craigslist.

    • noname says:

      ampersand were you offered 250 per meet or 1000 per month im not clear on which it is and did he offer any other benefits other than the money like conections that would get you a better job for example 1000 is not very generous but for some ladies that can make all the difference in the world there is no right or wrong amount for a allowance its what ever makes two people happy this amount didn’t make you happy so the best course of action is to ignore these requests and move on

    • SD says:

      Some SDs can not “date” if they are married. It’s the nature of the beast . Therefore they want a beautiful sexy SB to make love with -pure and simple . The question I would ask is “are you attracted to this Pot ? ” If you like him and the $12000/year is chump change for you ,then keep looking .

      • SD says:

        Sorry, if you like him then enjoy a sexual relationship with him and pay your rent. If you don’t like him –or sex -then Next him .

    • Bruce Wayne says:

      If you are a 10 in looks and a 4 in personality, you are a 4 to me.

      Take it under advisement :)

    • Joohn says:

      Get over yourself…it’s just pussy

    • Anonymous says:

      My response to that as a SD would be that in the beginning you have to establish trust. Just like any other relationship. I have foolishly spent thousands of dollars on arrangements only to have the girl disappear and never do anything near her part of the agreement.

      I have also agreed to meet potential SB to see how we click. Maybe for a dinner or coffee or what have you, only to get a reply like. Well, if I don’t like you I still expect to be paid for my time while we have dinner. Um, no thank you.

      So, in the beginning I think a per visit exchange seems like the right thing to do. Potential SBs act like they have all these guys offering them the world, but the truth is, they don’t.

  11. SailingIsFun says:

    I fully agree on the topic that sugar can have several forms. Not all daddys can or want to deliver the same kind of sugar. If we were talking exclusively about an allowance, this could be totally misunderstood with an escort service.

    For many years I have invited my ladyfriends for modest night outs, treating them with some lingerie, or just go crazy shopping on sales (I am worst then most girls regarding shopping). I had some protégés going trough university that often would call me asking for guidance. Or if I could get they day after pill for their friends because they were shy.

    Or I would have them over to my place, simply because I had always beer and music for fun, or because they missed the older f-buddy and dislike same age friends.

    While allowances

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  13. Anonymous says:

    I had a SD that seemed perfect- we were even friends on FB. We talked for a while, lost touch, then he messaged me on FB saying he would still be interested in “helping me”. He brought up an amount & mentioned the last 2 SBs he would give a reload able gift card.

    Fast forward to our first meeting. Everything went spectacular. He gave me the gift card & then said he needed to take a photo of the back of it, he needed the number so he could load money on it. He said he hadn’t yet but would the next day, that he would do the amount we discussed in increments.

    I know money can be a touchy subject with some SDs.. Why I’m not exactly sure, considering what they are ultimately wanting, how I’m being rewarded is important as well. I’m not here to disclose all of my info without even receiving a photo first.

    Anyway, 2 days pass & he hasn’t put money on the card. I call the card company & the card hadn’t even been activated & they needed the receipt to do so- almost as if he just stole the card without purchasing it. I then noticed on the back of the card, it also mentioned the limit & that it wasn’t reload able.

    When we spoke, he acted super nonchalant & said he would take care of it that day. I asked if he would just do a money transfer to my bank & he started asking about sending a money gram. Whatever dude, at this point I was really irritated & had a gut feeling, but I continued to be sweet & polite, active as if it wasn’t that big of a deal.

    Blah ball blah, I realize he had blocked me on fb & stopped responding to texts or answering my phone calls. I was so irate.. He has a premium profile on here. What was his purpose of doing this? Why would he spend all of the time & effort on this to just be a scam artist?

    I reported him on here, but what do you do in this situation? SD wonder why SB want $ upfront.. Along with that I give my personal info, for a sense of security.. Well, this is why.

    • Dovetail says:

      This sounds like one of those African scams. I came to SA because like the SD’s here, I don’t have a life that is conductive to the traditional relationship, and though open to companionship, I can’t give the time and constant validation, let alone (disgusted voice) marriage and babies life that the traditional site is geared for. It seems, though, that this site is riddled with scams. I had a SD email me earlier today asking for my address and phone number so that he could send money and gifts, while we got to know each other. I couldn’t help but think this was either some sort of scam, OR he had fallen victim to the “I need you to send me something to show you’re serious” “sugar baby” scam. Either way, he was either too much the fool for me, or potentially bad news either way.

      • Anonymous says:

        It is a phishing scam. You might as well give your DOB, SSN, and your mother’s maiden name. Anyone can go to Walgreens and pick up one of those Green Dot MasterCards. Doesn’t mean it was actually activated. If he really wants to spoil you, he can give you a wad of cash when you first meet.

      • Vixiena says:

        That’s all you spend on a SB you rather do not suscribe at all. This isn’t about pros SB is something else check before going that route with that way of thinking

    • Laura says:

      Gosh, beware of anything other than a nice envelope, I was on another site and there was this creepy so called “gent” who kept on harassing me over a few months (personally I think it is up to the male to travel and prove themselves as your “rock” before any “fun”, so I have my ways and means to keep safe) and then one girl totally outed him for giving bouncy cheques post multiple “intimate encounters” … never give in to bullies who want to get into your pants 😉

  14. FLYR says:

    the topic is how to give sustainable sugar

    perhaps 0.5% of the 1,636 comments relate to the topic .

    How about just starting a new blog every Friday with the Date – No topic ,

    • Dovetail says:

      Thank you!

      And the same goes for SDs. Thinking that trying to hand a potential sb a stack of cash and then she’s going to go straight to the hotel falls under the same shit. I’ve handed the stack back and walked out of more than one “Daddy” pulling that shit with me.

  15. Anonymous says:

    How many of you believe that DiCaprio fucked Margot Robbie for real?

  16. Anonymous says:

    Code Blue. This blog is in the Intensive Care Unit and requires CPR. Vital signs are failing. Gonna flatline real soon.

  17. elaine says:

    “It’d be interesting to read how much of an allowance a googleable woman would get from SDs.
    I know that some women will pretent to me men and will try to boost the allowance…but we will call them out. Post links to a female’s photo and let SDs tell you how much she’s worth to them, and more iimportantly why.”

    Who would be your “dream” SB if you guys had to choose famous women?
    Who would be worth your allowance?

    I am not a SD, so no sexual aspects, but if I were one it would be:

    Angelina Jolie: very intruiging and fascinating.
    Cameron Diaz: I thing she is lot’s of fun to be around.
    Kate Winslet: I think she is very down to earth and genuine.

    • Anonymous says:

      It’s interesting that your 3 choices are all actresses above 40 y. o. My top 3 choices would be:
      Emma Stone
      Anna Kendrick
      Julianne Hough

      • elaine says:

        @Anonymous

        That is not so weird.
        I am above 40 myself. So I “grew up” with these women. :-)
        In fact, I had to Google the names you mentioned to visualize them. LOL
        And Kate Winslet turned 40 only 3 weeks ago, Angelina Jolie last june…

        If I would have to name a woman in her 20ies, it would be Margot Robbie.
        My God what a beauty and class!

      • IHF2030 says:

        Margot Robbie? Class?? Beauty???

      • Anonymous says:

        I had to look her up. Name did not sound familiar but then I realized she looked good naked on that movie Wolf Of Wall Street with Leo DiCaprio.

      • elaine says:

        @IHateFemales2030

        Yes Margot Robbie
        Yes, beauty
        Yes, class

        Wondering what is your idea of beayty and class if you think she has not?

    • Attica M says:

      Angela Davis: i would just want to listen to her and talk with her all day. She is full of wisdom.
      Rihanna: despite her saying some crazy shit recently, i admire her and talking real shit and partying would be fun with her for sure. her make up is always on point too. we would be best friends.
      Aisha Tyler: b/c we are both tall, nerdy and silly.

    • THEATLSD says:

      Zooey Deschanel.

    • noname says:

      paris hilton what ever she asks she will get just as long as she perform like she did in the video

      • Anonymous says:

        If that is your only reason for getting a sb, then at least pick Lisa Ann, she is sexier and performs better than that brainless bimbo.

    • Laura says:

      My view on this is as follows, a guy wants to get into your pant = he should provide housing and financial security before doing so. Full stop. He is clearly attracted and there is a very clear traditional contract for these things.

      • Willie willie says:

        Laura why would anyone with a brain pay upfront to get ripped off. Doing what you are asking is “Inflation” Rasing the price of Sugar.

  18. Anonymous says:

    Hey guys, I thought this site claims 8 to 1 SB to SD ratio. I am ready to make a moderate arrangement, but so far I’ve only met 2 SBs for drinks and I never heard back from them. The others, they exchange a few emails and then they disappear also. What am I doing wrong? Or maybe there are just too many SDs out there with more money to spend??

    • Anonymous says:

      It all depends on your location. The high ratio is probably accurate for cities like LA, NYC, Chicago, etc.

    • elaine says:

      I don’t know what you are doing wrong, your information is to scarce to understand well what might be the problem.
      Maybe your profile sucks, or your location, or whatever.
      But moderate is a very good allowance, not too many SDs are willing to spend.

      And in most area’s the 8 to 1 ratio is just a fried air SA marketing lure to attract paying SDs.

      • Anonymous says:

        I am in san francisco. The sbs here are very attractive. Which means many sds are competing

      • Anonymous says:

        Probably you are just not appealing to girls-too old-too fat-too ? whatever

      • Anonymous says:

        I thought this site is the equalizer in that the allowance will make sbs overlook the sds appearance? But it is clear the sbs have their pick of allowance and good looks when choosing an sd

    • Anonymous says:

      When you consider active SBs and SDs (logged in within a week), the ratio is about 1:1 in my area. The SBs are pretty flaky in my area and if the SB is attractive, she has a lot of options. My SB is sweet, reliable, sane and very hot – she said she received about 300 emails the first week she was on the site.

      • Anonymous says:

        300 emails??!! No wonder I’m lucky if I get 5 email responses per week. The sbs dont have time to respond or read so many emails from sds.

      • Anonymous says:

        I have just joined this week, I don’t no if I have just picked it up easy but have two potential serious SD one has already booked me a ticket to London skyped me his river Thames flat and also sent me s photo of his I.d I have never had an arrangement before and of course I’m serious about it but it’s difficult to judge the next steps he wants to go for a meal then back to his I assume .. What do you guys think? X

    • THEATLSD says:

      There is a whole cornucopia of salty and flakey SB on here. In fact I think there needs to be a IG/Tumblr page dedicated to this subject.

    • Anonymous says:

      There was another website that got hacked which claimed millions upon millions of female members. Well we all know how all that turned out to be. So take everything with a grain of salt.

    • SexyRockstar says:

      Maybe it’s your messages to them.
      If a guy is too sexual, I next him.
      Bringing up sex with in the first email or so is a turn off.

    • Reb. says:

      You can either take the advice of people on here who automatically assume it is because women are terrible people who are just ~flaky~ or you could grow as a person and simply accept that maybe it really is you, especially if it happens multiple times. Maybe it is the way you come across. Maybe your photos are inaccurate and you’re not their type.

      • Anonymous says:

        ironically, be advised that Reb. is likely to blame the SD.

        It could be you, it could be the SBs, but likely it is a mix of both.

      • Anonymous says:

        Its just that I had my hopes up thinking that giving an allowance increases my odds of finding someone. But I realize now, this site is no different from normal dating. What’s worse here is I’m competing with other sds for the “honor” of giving an sb an allowance.

      • Anonymous says:

        You are paying an allowance, but that does not mean that the sbs will automatically jump at your feet. Some may like you, some may not. The sbs still have the right to choose, obviously. Just search until you find the most suitable one, who also likes you in return.

    • flyR says:

      Anon – If you are offering a moderate allowance and not landing delicious SBs’ then you are doing something wrong.

      The sweet spot in the SB hunting is those young women who are taken for granted by their “dates” who may range from semi impotent metrosexual to losers whose vision of dating is ordering an extra large pizza and an extra six pack of beer to drink during the game or worse yet expecting the woman to buy the beer and pizza.

      The married guy who wants them to come to his hotel room for a few hours and then leave are attractive and a happy hunting ground for those SB’s who just want to maximize cash. Of course there are guys like Donald Sterling who provide 1 mil plus support to women who hate them.

      If you are struggling step back and change your approach.

      What do you have to offer beyond frictional sex

      What are your goals , priorities,

      What are reasonable expectations

      Reality Check – The competition ( I think most SB’s over focus on being super attractive and under focus on being a quality experience.. that matches the opportunities to be of value to the SD

      How do you package the product

      Imagine you are hungry and you google restaurants in a strange town

      Restaurant A – Please stop here, we are near bankruptcy, don’t be a f’ing idiot and go to some place that treats you like a customer. We’re easy to find, look for the battery recycling plant next door.

      Restaurant B – Come enjoy our diverse, quality dining experience. Only the freshest, high quality ingredients, prepared to your order by our talented chef. Enjoy our diverse selection of wines or Rick’s famous cocktails. If it’s not on the menu, just ask.

    • Anonymous says:

      You may need an intervention –

      If you are offering a moderate allowance in a well stocked pond and not getting past the first meeting

      a – Patience

      b – You are misrepresenting something that becomes apparent at the meeting
      attitude
      hygiene
      appearance
      scare factor
      arrogance
      dissimilar attitudes

      You might write to the two you met with and simply ask if they would share with you their thoughts – not in a confrontational way

      Alternative – Recruit an SB coach – find a reasonably attractive SB in the area who is intelligent and offer her $1,000 to go to dinner with you as though it were a serious first meet, are then debrief you on your appeal as an SD and what you can change . I would pick from the negotiable or practical range

      • lurker says:

        If you’re offering $1000, you should invite other SDs for dinner. Young women will NEVER help a man become more attractive, basic redpill wisdom. Even your mother and sisters can’t be trusted. Maybe, just maybe you can trust a loving grandmother who really wants great-grandchildren. Granted the other SDs are your competition and it is not entirely in their interest to help you, but men are often willing to overlook that, at least if they are confident you don’t pose a strong threat, since many men enjoy being experts in front of other men. Also, bad SDs give SDs in general a bad rep and drive off SBs, so it IS in their interest to help you with any really offensive things you might be doing.

        My advice to SBs is to treat arrangements the same way you would treat regular dating. If you don’t find the man sexually attractive, no deal, regardless of the money. For SDs, the advice then becomes, don’t chase women who are out of your league. For women who are in your league, the money simply moves you to the head of the line of men the woman finds sexually attractive.

      • Coach says:

        Hiring a SB Coach is a great idea, especially for a newbie.

    • Dan says:

      Its not all about $$$…

      • Laura says:

        Erm, soz, it is about SECURITY. Just my tapence. I can slim down a willing fat guy but I am not prepared to put up with an alpha who has nothing to show for all that alpha obnoxiousness. Also I am not into butt sex or bdsm, unless people bribed me with all of their declared 30mln fortune for one meet, and yes, I would have a friend awaiting my call/text and alerting the cops in case anything went wrong :p

      • Anonymous says:

        like any good hooker would

      • Anonymous says:

        You need to go to the latest blog and enlighten the regulars. Once a new post is up we don’t post on the older blogs.

        To make it easy for you, the current blog is “Managing Multiple Sugar Babies”

  19. Hey! Is anyone seeing the sidebar that lists recent posts?

    Has the feature been removed or maybe just how the interface appears on my screen?

  20. Kore says:

    Wondering if anyone has had experience with sexual activites that have been linked to psychological disorders.

    Take Kelly’s story, for example. The guy had a complex and he had minimal self control. He wanted his toes sucked, but that’s not that weird (compared to certain other sexual actives). If it weren’t for his actions, he’d be a pretty normal, sexually dominant guy with a toe fetish. If toe sucking had been linked with a psychosis, this would be something to take into consideration.

    Some sexual acts are a bit more on the extreme side (relative), so I am just wondering how the psychological connotations play a role for people.
    Would you arrange with someone who was more than what you have done before? Also, do you take the psychology behind these sexual acts into consideration?

    • Dovetail says:

      At one time or another in the history of the world I am sure that ALL sexual activities have been linked to some form of mental disorder.

      Personally, there is no amount of attraction to someone, for me, that will ever cause me to actually want to suck a toe.

      However, I have “broadened my horizons” so to speak a few times with the males I’ve dated, and been glad for it most of the time. Example: The biter that, I later found had a penchant for choking and hair pulling. I knew about the biting, knew about the hair pulling, both are, personally, instant turn on for me, and when I thought the “physical candy” was great, someone comes along and coats it with the sugar of a new experience that only heightens the sweet.

      Sexual experimentation? Yes. I was once an innocent girl that never would have known about some of my favorite things.

  21. flyR says:

    TOPIC IS DEAD TIME FOR NEW TOPIC

  22. Dazed-SD says:

    Sexy Rock,,I’m from Michigan,, whats up ?

  23. Anonymous says:

    Sometimes I get my kicks reading what the naive, new to the game, SB demand:

    This is a 23 year old, blonde, petite, new to this, BUT not new to trying to get the most money.

    “-If you are moderate and practical in your spoiling…DO NOT contact me
    -meet once every two weeks”

    She wants “high” allowance for once every two weeks, so twice a month. She is only missing “no sex” to win an award.

    • Anonymous says:

      Maybe she thinks she has what it takes to be this selective, and approve of such a high expectation from her part. Who knows..

      • Anonymous says:

        She is going to get a quick reality check when the only replies she gets will be the $100-$200 per meet quickies. She will come running home to Tumblr.

      • Anonymous says:

        There are a few sds who have substantial or high listed, a few yes but there are. I mean that’s what the expectation budget button serves for. So you can choose what you think is right, and see if people agree with that or not.

      • elaine says:

        Most SDs listing “high” are scams, trying to lure girls with it, Very often it is the same ones that are listing >100 Mill. net worth and > 1 mill. income but never paying for their membership, and very often not even active anymore.
        And never willing, or able, to pay such allowances.

        Don’t get me wrong, there are SDs here that are really worth >100 mill. but those are to smart for doing that….

        Only exception maybe: some dumb basketballplayer or rapper. Guys that have became rich too fast.

    • Anonymous says:

      there is nothing wrong with having high expectations. As soon as you are aware these are high expectations..

      • Anonymous says:

        it tends to hurt the reality of things. She might be quite attractive, even hot, but if there are no SD takers, then rude awakening. I think a SB asking for such grand allowances should bring to the relationship more than just looks. Personality, charisma, empathy, great communication skills, very good sexual skills, lady like behavior, etc., how else can an affluent SD consider her if she is only beautiful but quite dumb, dresses trashy, unable to hold an intelligent conversation, and she is only focused on getting her money?

      • Anonymous says:

        I agree, a sb like that should be able to bring everything to the table. Looks are subjective, but a great personality, brain, being caring and actually being an escape from the everyday life to the sd, all of those are the attributes she should generally have, for the high expectation. It’s not impossible as Elaine implies, because that expectation is there for a reason.

    • Dan says:

      Many of the news stories on TV or in Magazines paint the picture that $3k or more SD’s are the norm…

      They are the exception…

      I’ve dug into economic demographic data, where I live there MIGHT be 3-4 on the site that can handle $3K monthly…

  24. SexyRockstar says:

    Ooohh, does anyone here besides onsd and fundude live in Michigan?

    I have a Michigan question, ha

  25. SexyRockstar says:

    @yougottabe
    What’s up girl?
    Yeah @fundude owes me a case of Old Style.
    Drummer has taken me to a million Cubs games and they only have one stand that sells Old Style. It’s pretty damn sad.

    But, I need to calm down on the Old Style, I’m going to get fat. I seriously stay in the gym for an extra hour due to Baseball season.
    I’ll start looking like a sugar cookie vs a sugar baby.

  26. Jaybird923 says:

    This is so wrong but I couldn’t stop laughing. Why SBs demand money upfront…

    “As expected, this POT slipped something into the baby’s bag at the end of the night… Only for her to get home and see it was nothing more than chocolate coins! You read that right: CHOCOLATE. FUCKING. COINS. Then he goes on to say “Oh, I had $300 but didn’t know if I should give it to you.”

    • Anonymous says:

      This is why you check as soon as you get to the bathroom girl. LOL

      • Jaybird923 says:

        You should see his messages explaining what happened lol

      • Anonymous says:

        i’ve slipped it in their purse when they run to the bathroom, right on top, not underneath like i was rooting through the purse

      • Anonymous says:

        well, retype the message

      • Jaybird923 says:

        His message when she confronted him…

        “I was confused as to what was expected. And I hadn’t prepared properly. I only had $300 and didn’t know what to do when the time came. I am not the suave all knowing pro daddy you may take me for. Would that have insulted you?

        Tonight’s allowance is safe and waiting for you if you’ll tell me what’s expected. I really enjoyed our time together and hope to see you again.”

      • Anonymous says:

        ““I was confused as to what was expected. ” translation…i had no intention of giving you money as i am broke and need money to pay my electric bill

    • Anonymous says:

      c’mon that is funny lmao

    • THEATLSD says:

      Chocolate coins. Damn why didn’t I think of that.

    • MissLady says:

      I remember that one!! That was all sorts of messed up!! lol

    • clea says:

      And the men on this blog wonder why some SBs can be so demanding or eager to label the men on this site saltly. Stories like these, not necessarily the chocolate coins, but the cheap SDs, especially married ones like to manipulate and play with young SBs in this manner. Well, he’ll feel the burn when SBs refuse to engage him. His wife will then become a lot more appealing and he’ll appreciate her much more, instead of philandering with nubile women seeking extra funds.

    • noname says:

      good thing they didn’t melt then she would really have something to be mad about

  27. Anonymous says:

    @Eismalsott

    Make up your mind. Do you or do you not have tattoos?

    • She has tattoos. Uh huh…she does.

      And a pole that mounts from the ceiling to the floor.

      Coat rack, maybe.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Lol you’re not implying she dances for dollars are you? She might be a ballarina. ..

      • Anonymous says:

        It’s ballerina, go back to collage…

      • noname says:

        make sure she doesn’t get paid in chocolate coins lol

      • @Jay

        It’s just one of “the simple things in life.” Right along side food and shooting.

        yougottadoitlikethis…

        [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcHAXXozU64]

        (2:25)

        [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmHB7Y3O2Ow]

        (3:15)

        [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUTYVN-_FCA]

        uh huh

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Lol I didn’t even catch that I was on my tablet and the text prediction thing recommended it. Thanks for pointing that out.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @YGTBKM She’s really good. I let myself be dragged to a strip club a couple of years ago. I was expecting all the girls to come out and work the pole like that. I got something totally different never going back again.

      • Ha. Was it like this?

        [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eyvad7qoamw]

      • Jaybird923 says:

        HAHA No if it was like that at least I would’ve gotten a good laugh out of it. Instead I ended up stage side being traumatized for my birthday.

        All they did was twirl around the pole once get naked then lay on their backs with their legs spread.I never want to be that up close and personal with vagina ever again. One of the drawbacks of having male friends

  28. Anonymous says:

    Let’s wager on how long this one will last:

    “About Me

    I am your new favorite addiction. I am a verified findom and the sexy stoner you’ll ever meet. Money makes me smile and trust me. You want me to stay happy

    What I’m looking for

    Most online, discreet arrangement with the opportunity to graduate to cashpoint meets. Your sole purpose here is to send me more money than I can spend.”

  29. Anonymous says:

    Why do blacks say “mothafucka” so much?

  30. Eismalsott says:

    *pass by and laugh* How was I missing on the forum fun this whole time hahaha.

  31. Tal2321 says:

    Going to have to note that internships are not something a SD should ever provide to the an SB. One indiscretion and both could be out the door. I personally know of two C level executives that were escorted from their offices because of their SB’s indiscretions.

  32. Catcher 22 says:

    @Vito: ubi infernum sint vobis ?

  33. clea says:

    uh new blog please.

  34. Anonymous says:

    It’d be interesting to read how much of an allowance a googleable woman would get from SDs.

    I know that some women will pretent to me men and will try to boost the allowance…but we will call them out.

    Post links to a female’s photo and let SDs tell you how much she’s worth to them, and more iimportantly why.

    DON’T post links to people’s SA profiles. Stick to random people or celebrities on the net.

  35. elaine says:

    Ok, so you are married to Khloe Kardashian (a 10?) , then you go to a brothel to drink, fuck and drug yourself unconscious with 2 skinny, blond but very average (6?) nono’s and spend $75k on them?!?

    Please Sds explain, this is too much to understand for a female brain….

    • And then they take pictures of you in a near-death/actively dying state and sell them to the media…

      But correction, Elaine…

      The Ranch ascertains that he had only consumed herbal vitamins while he was there. Thus it was not a drug-induced coma, but a pussy coma.

      Actually a pretty sad story of a seemingly lost soul. Yet another example of how money doesnt by happiness.

      Ryd3r Ch3rry…was a mess.

    • Anonymous says:

      well, first…you have to be black to find skinny average looking women attractive enough to spend 75k on them, second, isnt he and his wife at least separated?

      • Anonymous says:

        meant to say, skinny average looking blondes*

      • AnonymousSSSD says:

        When I read $75k in the news, my jaw hit the floor. This is exactly the kind of fool whose effing up the pussy market for everyone else. He has now set a precedent wit dem der ho’s and now they’re going to expect 75k from every mofo that walks through their doors.

      • Anonymous says:

        The 75K is probably an inflated figure propagated by the brothel owner to set market prices. He probably spent $7,500 but hey, 75K sounds much better.

      • Anonymous says:

        surprised you didn’t say $750 or $75. But of course no one has ever spent $30,000+ a table at an elite wine bar in Manhattan either or $10,000 and up for a bottle of champagne. these things NEVER happen. Celebrities and NBA or ex NBA players are never loose with their money. never ever.

    • Anonymous says:

      The premise of the question is flawed to start off with. If Khloe K is 10 then…

    • FormerAnon says:

      khloe is about a 7 tops and that is on a good day she is heading to 6 or 5 territory fast

      the whores from the whorehouse are about 4s or 5s

      but then khloe opens her mouth and she is a -20 and then you find out she is a kartrashian and probably getting more butt injections and has been used as a cum dumpster by a wide array of idiots and she is a -100

      but then you remember it is lamar odom and he and those like him will put their dicks in about anything that moves

      plus looking the the photos of those whores I am about 99.999999% sure that if you have it they will take it and so you know lamar was not ODing on rose petal and ginseng enemas

      lamar odom is “down to party” with anything that has a vagina (or can pretend they do) and some coke

    • Anonymous says:

      One of the girls Lamar picked is a tranny

    • noname says:

      khloe kardashian is not a 10 i wouldn’t offer her minimal as for going to a brothel and spending $75k on 2 blondys i can’t understand that either elaine must be the drugs

    • Anonymous says:

      He is mentally ill and mentally ill people usually don’t make good decisions, especially when they are having an “episode.”

      It was my understanding that their divorce was nearly finalized.

      Kim and Khloe are less than a 5 IMHO – I don’t like that body type at all.

      • elaine says:

        Ok the Kardashians can be discussed on how high they range.
        I thought they would range high, but the gentlemen luckely think different. :-)

        At least I was right about the hookers 😉

      • Anonymous says:

        You don’t like big boobs and an ass. Then what do you like?

      • DontlikeSDterm says:

        If I saw a profile from any of the K’s on here (not knowing who they were), I wouldn’t give the profile a second thought.

        But independent of that, who was the big Hollywood guy who was caught with a crack whore a few years ago when he could have gone into any bar and picked up a 100? Doesn’t make sense to me … then again the attractive women where I live who date guys with a carpet cleaning machine for a job don’t make sense to me either.

      • SD says:

        @Kartrasians – 5-6s at best . I wouldn’t even include their type in a search.

        Anyone old enough to remember Hugh Grant and Elizabeth Hurley Drama ? Inexplicable since Hurley was a 10 . But who knows ? Maybe she was a bitch to him and did not take care of things .

        Odom ? Who can get that ? IF I had $75K to spend I would do so on one(hundred) entitled SBs who know their worth .

    • Anonymous says:

      When you release a sex tape and it goes viral you become 10 and all the females in your family become 10. That’s in the constitution.

      • Anonymous says:

        Khloe is not a 10. Maybe 5 or 6 at the most. Kim is a 3 or 4. Her ass is so big now it has its own zip code and area code. All the photos you see published are photoshopped. They showed pics of Kim in all her cellulite glory online somewhere. It does not matter if Khloe is a 10. Lamar is no longer hitting that.

    • Anonymous says:

      Marrying a Kardashian ( or even hanging out with them ) says you are a fugitive from the process of natural selection.

      My guess is that he sought refuge in a whorehouse because a) they will be nice to him b) they don’t whine c) they are not trying to be famous and d) he felt welcome .

      The primary differences between the Kardashians and hookers are integrity and humility.

    • flyR says:

      Completely logical allocation of assets. When you are surrounded by entirely useless, talent void Hollywood folks who are famous for being famous and THEY reject you it’s time for the hookers who are smarter, cheaper, have a higher level of social conciseness, do less drugs and care more …….

      Far scarier than ISIS are the tens of millions of Americans who think the Kardashians are interesting or likable.

  36. Anonymous says:

    Justa Splenda D is his name with the caption: Splenda PHd. Occupation: Boss Man. This is what he is looking for: Working on being a true Sugar Daddy. If you need a Gucci hand bag and 500 bucks to be seen with me. Then you will have to wait till i reach Super Sugar Status. The Best part about this site is being able to talk about . Sex and drugs and rock and roll on the first date. We can still be polite about it. Nobody wants a contagious disease, a bad check or a shopping spree at walmart. I think we all understand that. asking for $$$ makes you a business . lets not start out like that. All Real Spenda and Sugar Daddy’s would surprise you with generosity if you just stop demanding it up front. Also, Please be very picky on this site. Stop taking chances with losers and then taking it out on the good guys. Sugar D’s out rank Sugar Babys. 100 to 1. You have the control. Less Men and more quality times is all any of you are looking for.

  37. FormerAnon says:

    if one would like to see how not to choose a picture to display check out the profile of Sassyblonde88

    after viewing another profile for fun I decided to search the key word “chef” for profiles…..wow…

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      Deformed hot dogs and a few weeks pregnant lol…

      • elaine says:

        Weird picture indeed, looks like they have amputated her legs at her knees.
        Now, I know some men have their kinks but…..

        BTW, searching this, I saw this profile of a 70yo, and to be honest, I don’t know if there will be any takers, but it was a good profile and she looks more attractive as a lot of 40 yo!
        Since she works in the beauty industry, maybe with a lot of help, but anyway “Chapeau” for her!

  38. Sugar Baby says:

    I would ador a Sugar Mama whom which I can show compassionate, gentleman-like companionship; a Wonderwoman who I can show that this Clark Kent may really be Superman.

  39. cryptic anomaly says:

    Just wow headline “Bit ya better have ma money”

    What I’m looking for

    Im looking for a sugar daddy to spoil me, terms can be negotiated (no sex, wine and dine me)

  40. IHF2030 says:

    I expect Caucasian women do behave in certain ways and I want nothing to do with them if they deviate from those expectations.

  41. Attica M says:

    Anyone here a beer snob or likes to think of themselves a cicerone?
    Any good porters/stouts/triples/barelywines/meads been had recently?

  42. cryptic anomaly says:

    @Attica- Rap is poetry and about life? I just looked up some rap “poetry” check it out.. 2LiveCrew.

    I’ve been rhymin and designin, and always tryin
    Our beats are always strong, and never dyin
    The lyrics I recite, I say with power
    So step aside or get devoured
    I won’t say I’m sorry cause I don’t want glory
    Gonna stimulate this party, so don’t you worry
    Bustin all fresh rhymes, don’t need to diss
    Cause I’m known at parties as a catalyst
    Gonna make you all dance, keep ya body in motion
    Cause anything I do, I get an ovation
    The compliments I get never cease to end
    Cause I say what I want and I never bend
    To any silly shit that you got to say
    But to hear me rap, ya gotta pay
    Cause you heard it before and it ain’t no lie
    That 2 Live music will never die!

    That’s a fuck of a lot of words to say, not much at all.

    • Anonymous says:

      Well, did they lie..this 2 Live music will never die!

      And it’s hasn’t.

    • MissLady says:

      2LiveCrew….classic.

    • Attica M says:

      there are songs just for fun. one of my favs is by Geto Boys:
      Motherfuck a war, that’s how I feel
      Sendin’ a nigga to a dentist to get killed
      Cause two suckas can’t agree on something
      A thousand motherfuckers died for nothing
      You can’t pay me to join an army camp
      Or any other motherfuckin’ military branch
      of this United goddman States of this bitch America
      Be a soldier, what for?
      They puttin’ niggas on the front line
      But when it comes to gettin’ ahead, they put us way behind
      I ain’t gettin’ my leg shot off
      While Bush old ass on t.v. playin’ golf
      But when you come to my house with that draft shit
      I’ma shoot your funky ass bitch
      A nigga’ll die for a broil
      But I ain’t fightin’ behind no gaddamn oil
      Against motherfuckas I don’t know
      Yo Bush! I ain’t your damn hoe
      The enemy is right here g, them foreigners never did shit me
      All of those wasted lives
      And only one or two get recognized
      But what good is a medal when your dead? tell Uncle Sam I said
      I ain’t goin’ to war for a shit talkin’ president
      (Fuck fuck fuck a war)

      • SD says:

        catchy ! Sort of like a Taylor Swift ditty

      • Anonymous says:

        And folks wonder why people who listen to that all day end up terminally unemployable in the conventional world and unable to communicate with most of the rest.

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      Surrounded by the stars and the views hot.
      Ain’t nobody thinking ’bout what you got…

      • Attica M says:

        The second verse is dedicated to the men
        More concerned with his rims and his Timbs than his women
        Him and his men come in the club like hooligans
        Don’t care who they offend popping yang like you got yen
        Let’s not pretend, they wanna pack pistol by they waist men
        Cristal by the case men, still in they mother’s basement
        The pretty face, men claiming that they did a bid men
        Need to take care of their three and four kids men
        They facing a court case when the child’s support late
        Money taking, heart breaking now you wonder why women hate men
        The sneaky silent men the punk domestic violence men
        The quick to shoot the s***n stop acting like boys and be men
        How you gon’ win when you ain’t right within
        How you gon’ win when you ain’t right within
        How you gon’ win when you ain’t right within

      • The Prophet says:

        Attica, pull up The Low Sparks of High Heeled Boys by Traffic.
        It’s actually about the music industry.

        Next…The eagles New kid in Town.
        There actually two new kids.

        The Eagles Those Shoes.
        The pros and cons of these sites. 😉

      • Attica M says:

        you know i use to get down on some boston. i have no idea why. an ex left a greatest hits album and i was on that for several months.

  43. cryptic anomaly says:

    @Jaybird “Here’s the thing rap is no longer fringe music or black music. It’s mainstream. It’s infiltrated every aspect of our culture from movies to commercials to other genres of music. It’s cross cultural and economic lines. All these kids are growing up hearing the music hearing the slang. Whether they are white, asian, latin,whatever the music, the culture is as much theirs as the little black kids. It always anoys me when people try to tell you what you should like or shouldn’t. How you should talk or shouldn’t because of your race or skin color. You are who you are you.”

    You should hear some of the Australian rappers, rap in an Aussie accent is quite interesting.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I’m sure it is :-))

    • The Prophet says:

      Rap is urban culture, not race specific.
      I can handle some of the old stuff, but in general, it sucks.

    • Kore says:

      @cryptic I only know the Hilltop Hoods. Can you suggest another group?

      Rap in the Aussie accent is cute! :) :)

    • Anonymous says:

      if i want to listen to rap, i will listen to 50 cent or eminem

      • Anonymous says:

        in fact im a middle aged white dude and my ring tone is 50 cents in da club, mainly cause i like the looks i get when it goes off, but its been my ringtone for 3 or 4 yrs now

      • Attica M says:

        those were great years. early 2000s and late 90’s. R&b and rap shined the brightest.

        Even Though people like Flo Rida and Big Sean are guilty pleasures, many great artist go unnoticed.

        I honestly only listen to EDM for new stuff ( it helps me paint.) when i feel soulful and down with the revolution i put on some new rock&roll(jack white/ jimmy/black keys) The Gossip, Janelle Monae, Amy Winehouse, Billie Holiday.

  44. “Periods and migraines : Do not give her a return trip ticket until the day you are leaving . If she pulls any shit tell her to get out, get her own room,and buy her own return ticket.”

    Really, SD? I would never go anywhere with anyone under these terms. You’ll give me my return ticket the day we leave? Who would even feel comfortable with someone who said this?

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      I don’t imagine you would agree to an intimate vacation and then pull a legs firmly closed stunt. I suspect most don’t even think about it, tickets, accommodation etc…

    • Reb. says:

      I had a guy pull that line. He said that maybe he’ll get along and I’ll stay longer, but I could tell that he worried I would be 300 pounds when we met and that was the real reason. I did not accept his offer.

    • Anonymous says:

      Because periods and migraines are not supposed to happen to the SBs, can’t happen.

    • Anonymous says:

      I would advise that, if he wants a SB during her period that much, she should make him lick it clean then. It probably feels nice too, and less stomach cramps.

      • SD says:

        Periods are not a valid excuse for avoiding sex -and Nsaids work well for headaches after 30 minutes . Just factor in the prep work. Take a shower ,put a towel down ,pop an Advil and you’re good to go . I might skip oral -but maybe not .

        I told this story before but there are a lot of new posters . My SB a few years back told me that she was on her period and did not feel like sex that night . well, I drove 2 hours to see her ,take her to dinner ,and spend the night . She never mentioned it before I left ,because I would have rescheduled. So I told her that I was not in the mood for allowance that night -just wasn’t feeling it . It’s funny ,she suddenly felt like she might be able to get in the mood after all . And I’m not insensitive . I got her an Advil and waited until it kicked in aaaand -wait for it —rinsed out the towel after that . What a guy !

      • Anonymous says:

        Period are a valid excuse, not just culturally or religiously but also health wise. It’s really uncomfortable for women during that time, at least the first day. I am not even talking about the cramps which still last at least for two hours. During these times women are less prone to have sex, are more tired and their libido drops quickly. I get it that it’s hard for most men to understand periods, but that is just the way it is.

      • Anonymous says:

        Sometimes sexual pleasure helps relieve pain.

    • SD says:

      It was tongue in cheek @dildo . It would be good to know your Baby before taking her on a trip. Unfortunately ,biology can intrude on even ideal circumstances .

  45. Anonymous says:

    “I can attend an Opera, underground private club, or dive bar in the same evening.”

    WOW!!! It is as significant as inventing an iPhone, laying a cross-continent fiber optics cable and sending a mission to Mars in the same evening.

  46. Anonymous says:

    What’s the best way to avoid random monetary requests from women?

  47. cryptic anomaly says:

    @Attica “Common, Anthony Hamilton, Lauren Hill, A Tribe Called Quest, Nas (early Nas), Outkast, Atmosphere, Aesop Rock, MR Doom (goodness <3),Erica BaDu, Slum Village, Logic,Busta Rhymes, (new great hip hop) j.cole, kendrick lamar, Childish Gambino,Chiddy Bang, kid cudi. i could go on <3"

    If they are reasons for liking hip hop I'm afraid you have failed. And yes I do love music, play guitar even.

  48. cryptic anomaly says:

    @ Attica “you spelled Rapper wrong.”

    I would prefer to think he meant rapist as is rap is the rape of music.

    @Anon “If a woman calls herself “siren” what is the likelihood that she is a ho?”

    Better chance than average but she is a ho who thinks she is special because she is using a mythological term. Ask her if she lives around Cape Pelorum.

  49. FilmGirl76 says:

    Stay away from “sirens” they try to kill you by drowning you.
    You want a succubus, they try to kill you by fucking you to death.

  50. Anonymous says:

    If I worked at the Broadway or Hollywood, I wouldn’t mind getting my face painted. But I see some women who have their faces painted everyday. Fucking crazy indeed.

  51. Anonymous says:

    If a woman calls herself “siren” what is the likelihood that she is a ho?

  52. Anonymous says:

    @cryptic anomaly

    “Hip Hop and Rap are actually a great way of ruining music itself.”

    ROTFLMAO!!!

    Who came up with the focking idea that you are listening to a normal song and along comes a rapist to do his rap number…then the pop song resumes after the rapist finishes his bizness?

    • Anonymous says:

      white people, cause that’s who runs the music business….duh

    • Attica M says:

      you spelled Rapper wrong.

      • Anonymous says:

        The one who does rap is a rapist of music, no?

      • Attica M says:

        thats not how music works. rap is poetry. a story of a life lived.

      • flyr says:

        poetry, a story of a life lived………….

        I’m sorry I don’t really see any redeeming value in music which promotes dirtbaggery , drugs, thugs and treating women like disposable sperm dumpsters.

        I’m probably too close to the reality of it. Worked on projects in some of the hoods, dealt with a number of the corrupt politicians and also helped develop the headquarters of one of the major firms in the biz. If you think looking at 14 year old girls who went from decent kids with a future to living in the alley in a cardboard box, giving $10 blow jobs for crack healthy or the fact that the majority law abiding families of all races living in the hood are afraid to come out into the street other than during the brief window when the dirtbags sleep.

        The only redeeming social contribution is that they manage to kill each other with great frequency, but unfortunately kill a lot of innocents in the process. They talk about war bush and the draft which is funny as the draft ended more than a decade before Bush Sr was elected .

        I don’t think there would be a greater critic of Rap than Martin Luther King had he survived.

      • MissLady says:

        Sorry Flyr, but that dog don’t hunt. That’s any cultures reality, white, hispanic you name it. Drugs and hard living isn’t the sole problem for any culture. We won’t even get into the lyrics of some Rock music about how to degrade women or misogyny, so don’t just put it on Rap, which might just be more overt about. There are all sorts of things wrong with Rap music, but a lot of the hardships in those same ‘hoods’ would’ve never been as mainstream or known had it not been for that genre….

      • Jaybird923 says:

        LMAO rap = 14 year old crack whore.
        New Fox News talking point …. what would MLk do?

        I’m surprised you didn’t try to blame the Obama administration.

      • Anonymous says:

        i blame blacks in general, and mexicans

      • Anonymous says:

        Yes Josh, must suck to be white.

      • Anonymous says:

        actually it is quite awesome to be white, but you all knew that already

      • MissLady says:

        lol @ Anon, I personally know no such thing.

      • flyr says:

        If you are having trouble understanding the connection between Rap and violence just think of the number of dead rappers……… then try to come up with a list of country western, pop, jazz, etc musicians. Yes we lost a lot of hard core rockers to drugs but not to murder.

      • MissLady says:

        really?? Dead is dead.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        So should we blame rock music for the heroin and meth epidemic in the suburbs?

      • Anonymous says:

        no, meth is the redneck drug, blacks like crack

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Obviously you’re either very stupid or you thought you were funny. Since you totally missed the point of my post. Maybe read it again and think real hard (not hard because I wouldn’t want you to hurt yourself) and see if you can get the point.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        *edit not too hard

      • Kore says:

        @Attica Music is an art. Art gives everyone the chance to have their own opinions of it. I think some rap is garbage and there are some songs I will definitely not dance or listen to because they have repulsive ‘poetry.’ If someone thinks that rap in general is stupid, it’s their opinion.

        @Flyr Just what? 😀 Music influences, people, sure. But it’s also a question of demand and supply. You don’t think that there was an audience to whom the music appealed for it to become successful?
        I listen to some rap and hip hop, but I don’t live in a cardboard box, I would never kill a person.. I’m not white, but not black either. My ex who is a scientist also listens to French rap at times (he’s a white Frenchman)…

        It’s so strange that so many people seem to live in such small worlds.

      • [http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kerry-coddett/white-on-white-crime-an-u_b_6771878.html]

  53. Anonymous says:

    @Attica M

    “also most of these white girls doing this are just doing it b/c that’s what white girls do. take things from other cultures and ruins it (see: yoga, dreads,hip hop, cornrolls, etc)”

    How are white girls ruining yoga?

    • cryptic anomaly says:

      I am always amused that in multicultural societies people get upset when you start to have a cross over in interests.

      Do you hear white people complain that blacks play the guitar or play football, things invented by white people? Should an Asian person be banned from eating hamburgers?

      • Attica M says:

        multiculturalism is awesome and love and respect people coming together and sharing things.

        i was poking fun as white girls, just like there is some anon here that likes to make weird obama jokes for some reason, like i vote or something >.>

        i apologize if i offended anyone. I haven’t trolled in so long. look at how uptight people get. haha.

      • cryptic anomaly says:

        Not uptight I just get sick of the Politically Correct racism. If you can take it as good as you can dish it out we’re fine. I was just making an observation though, it’s bad for white people to like things from other cultures but perfectly ok for other cultures to like European things.

        I happen to agree to an extent though, a while back I saw a white girl on here from Melbourne, Australia and her profile was written in Rap/Ghetto slang (I don’t know what the actual term is) and it did look pathetic for two reasons 1. She is white. 2. Given her target audience, I don’t think we were enticed to “hang out in her crib”.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Here’s the thing rap is no longer fringe music or black music. It’s mainstream. It’s infiltrated every aspect of our culture from movies to commercials to other genres of music. It’s cross cultural and economic lines. All these kids are growing up hearing the music hearing the slang. Whether they are white, asian, latin,whatever the music, the culture is as much theirs as the little black kids. It always anoys me when people try to tell you what you should like or shouldn’t. How you should talk or shouldn’t because of your race or skin color. You are who you are you.

    • Anonymous says:

      Asian people shouldn’t eat hamburgers. Their mouths are too small.

    • Attica M says:

      hey it’s just my opinion lololololollollol

    • Kore says:

      @Attica No one can ruin it really and everyone is free to follow what they want, but I get what you mean with the wannabes.

      Back in India, there were white people who were really into yoga, exploring the culture and didn’t have to wear alibaba pants to show for it. Then there were those who were on their drugs, sex and hippie music trip who were “mehr schein als sein.” One day, they’d call themselves a hippie, the next they’re punk. They’re fickle people and it’s not to my taste, but live and let live. What do I care? They’re not causing any damage to anyone.

  54. DontlikeSDterm says:

    Interesting profiles lately. Everyone seems to like the “classy” word. Seriously, though if you have a sleeve (tattoo) and a cheek piercing, classy probably isn’t something I’d use in your profile.

    • Anonymous says:

      Don’t be a hater. THAT’S their class.

      • Anonymous says:

        whats withe the ring in the nose? i dont wish to be in public with a woman who looks like a bull

      • Anonymous says:

        Do they really think mutilating their bodies with sleeve tattoos and cattle nose rings make them look sexy and attractive? Why are they purposely making themselves look hideous?

      • Attica M says:

        also most of these white girls doing this are just doing it b/c that’s what white girls do. take things from other cultures and ruins it (see: yoga, dreads,hip hop, cornrolls, etc)

      • Anonymous says:

        I did not know Africans invented tattoos and nose rings.

      • IHF2030 says:

        How is it possible for White females to “ruin” hip-hop?

      • cryptic anomaly says:

        Hip Hop and Rap are actually a great way of ruining music itself.

      • Attica M says:

        did i say africans? pretty sure i said other cultures.

        anywho, hip hop is amazing. you only think its awful b.c you don’t understand it or could pick it out if you heard it. so your opinions are irrelevant.

      • IHF2030 says:

        Hip-hop is vulgar, coarse, infantile and evil.

      • Attica M says:

        Common, Anthony Hamilton, Lauren Hill, A Tribe Called Quest, Nas (early Nas), Outkast, Atmosphere, Aesop Rock, MR Doom (goodness <3),Erica BaDu, Slum Village, Logic,Busta Rhymes, (new great hip hop) j.cole, kendrick lamar, Childish Gambino,Chiddy Bang, kid cudi. i could go on <3

      • IHF2030 says:

        A young woman emailed me on here and in her profile she stated that she was a huge hip-hop fan. And, that was reason enough for me to next her White ass!

      • Attica M says:

        i bet i could change your mind 😉

        unless you’re one of those people that dont like any music.

      • Kore says:

        If you have a tattoo/piercing and are successful anyway, it’s a bit more impressive. You not only got where you are, but did it while bearing signs that people have stigma towards.

        Given, not all tats are nice (so many are stupid), but if it’s in good taste, then it can be attractive. Tattoos done to look ‘cool’ or just to show people that you fit into some stereotype is pretty lame. The reason they got the tattoo, where it is, what it looks like, etc, all makes a difference.

        I saw a very handsome man with a nose ring the other day. It didn’t make him look more or less attractive. A hot person looks hot no matter what they’re wearing. What’s important is how they present themselves in a situations. Seeing a nose ring at a bar is alright. Wearing it to work is kind of childish.

    • cryptic anomaly says:

      I agree, tattoos, piercings especially facial ones are gross. Same goes with trashy photos, or the profiles where every photos has the SB holding a drink in her hand. The duck face look is also really trashy and looks dumber and dumber the older the woman is, I saw an otherwise attractive 36 year old the other day making duck face in her selfie she looked stupid. Of course she wants to be treated like a Princess.

    • Anonymous says:

      kinda like the alpha….if you have to say it, you’re not conveying it.

    • Attica M says:

      i do plan to get a couple more tats but thats the great thing about my body! i can do what i want to it!

      • Anonymous says:

        Absolutely…since it is YOUR body…you can also get pregnant whenever you felt like it. Obama (the possibly Hillary) is standing by to give you instant welfare.

      • Attica M says:

        babies are gross and pregnancy is disgusting. and i love that free birth control!

      • Anonymous says:

        Anon, of course people can get pregnant whenever they want to. What does welfare have to do with it? I notice some passive agressive notes in your writing. And not Attica, babies are not gross, they’re actually cleaner than you and smell nice. Just a fact of life.

      • Attica M says:

        there is the mainstream and then there is the hip hop. if wont find it if you’re not looking for it.

        So you to say hip hop is dead or it’s awful, do you actually care enough to make those assumptions, or do you not like it b/c you just don’t like it?

        if i could i would ban all remake of rap songs as stupid piano and ukulele covers by white pre-teen on youtube. ugh.

      • Attica M says:

        nah babies are the real freeloaders and shit on themselves, they are useless.

      • elaine says:

        @Attica

        “nah babies are the real freeloaders and shit on themselves, they are useless.”

        Ahhh, so you were never a “useless” baby, shitting on yourself?

        Got it! You came out of an egg!

      • Anonymous says:

        No Attica, babies are cleaner than most people, including you, for a number of reasons, starting from the food you eat and the list goes on. In fact they smell better than adults with perfumes.

      • Attica M says:

        @elaine

        i was made from stars hun.

        again, there is no reason to have children. waste of time and money and just little trophies for lovers who don’t have anything else to do with themselves so i guess they will breed b/c they are running out of things to say to each other.

      • Kore says:

        @Attica Haha. I actually don’t want to have children either, but what you’re saying is… funny!

  55. cryptic anomaly says:

    “Open to any type of arrangement”

    SB’s write that a lot as well and it is annoying as it implies they don’t really know what they are looking for. The really annoying part though is when you start to chat with them and you find that as you suggest things they knock them back meaning that they aren’t actually open to “any type” of arrangement at all. I would guess it would be similar with the SD’s who write that and knock back platonic arrangements.

    • Anonymous says:

      What they really mean is open to any type of arrangement as long as there is nothing physical involved. They are open to any type of platonic arrangement all the way from Minimal to High.

    • Anonymous says:

      I think some SBs believe in Santa Claus and Platonic SDs and do not want to commit to an intimate relationship in case one of these is actually on the site.

      • THEATLSD says:

        I like that. I’m stealing the Santa Claus line.

      • Anonymous says:

        They believe in Santa Claus because they are Ho! Ho! Ho!

      • Anonymous says:

        It should not be surprising, seeing how this is the way SA markets the site. And actually some sds do like platonic arrangements, the very wealthy ones who can afford to do that, and try to win a sbs heart by being a gentleman and waiting, going against the current..

      • elaine says:

        @Anonymous

        “And actually some sds do like platonic arrangements, the very wealthy ones who can afford to do that, and try to win a sbs heart by being a gentleman”

        I think you should change your name in Cinderella and dream on….

      • Anonymous says:

        I’m a SD. I am just stating what some betas are doing, because let’s be honest, without them the sbs like this would not exist.

      • Anonymous says:

        By the way it’s to cinderella not in

      • elaine says:

        @Anonymous

        Thanks for the correction. I’ll grab any opportunity to upgrade my English skills. :-)

        But FYI, this is not what Beta’s are doing, this is what SA marketing is doing.

        And all those silly Instagram girls that don’t want to admit they DO have sex with their “old” and “gross” SDs.
        It is just like so much more glamorous to pretend u are like so irresistible that men give u money just like to show u around as arm candy and the right to look at u.
        😉

        They are the counterparts of the “SDs” that don’t want to admit they are Johns and pay “allowances” to “SBs” for 2 hour “arrangements” in a motelroom.

      • Kore says:

        @Elaine I completely agree. It really looks as if so many SBs don’t want to be seen with an older man, let alone admit they receive money from them for …

    • flyr says:

      I think a lot of SB’s throwing together a profile do not stop to think of the implications of “open to anything” . Especially true among the young which is to be expected.

      There are those who make the intent clear with stuff like “no doors closed” (translates to see my more extensive ad on Backpage/specialties)

    • Kore says:

      @cryptic I wrote that in the beginning as well, simply because I thought it showed I was flexible. Of course I’d want to have some sort of bond with my SD, but as with any other relationship, it’s quality and not quantity that means something to me. I’d rather meet a busy but nice SD a few times a year than one I don’t like as much a few times a month.

      Also, we ultimately search for people who think similarly to us (aka compatibility). Whatever a person writes on their profile, they are likely to be better off with someone who has something similar written in theirs.

      Otherwise, I have come across some people that money can buy EVERYTHING. A total turn off.

  56. elaine says:

    Coming weeks first meet with two American pot SDs in Europe

    Reading this blog I have got a certain impression (or prejudice maybe) of American SDs…
    Wondering if the difference is as big as I think?

    • MissLady says:

      Be sure to let us know the findings!

    • Anonymous says:

      You will fail as Americans would like to go for the home run in a jiffy, you will play your mind/class games with them, their dick will go limp and they will bolt.

      • elaine says:

        Wouldn’t put my money on that if i were you :-)

        Some men love games…

      • Anonymous says:

        “Some” men like all kinds of stuff…such as, tattoos, piercings, being shat on, being financial slaves…and the list goes on and on and on.

    • THEATLSD says:

      Depends what part of the U.S. they are from and what they do for a living. It’s a big country where dreams come true.

      As the alluring MissLady said plz report back.

    • Bob says:

      Been to London a number of times. I find the SB’s much more obliging and desirable than in Canada. They also understand what this is about – not some sort of candy store for entitled girls but a two way street.
      It will be interesting to see your take on the NA SD.

      • elaine says:

        @Bob

        Probably because we have long history of courtesans and mistresses. we know what we want and how to get it from men without being demanding, acting entitled, shouting or nagging.

        Feminism in it’s most feminine form 😉

    • flyr says:

      Elaine

      SB’s and SD’s come in all types.

      I would put more emphasis on what you glean from conversations and email exchanges. Would also be sensitive to what the do or did for a living. And yes to share your observations but with the caveat that it is a sample of 2.

      Most mature American men appreciate the worldly outlook of European women – they also get a lot more out of their school years .

    • Kore says:

      I’m interested in how it turns out, @Elaine. Keep us posted!

      TBH, I have avoided U.S. Americans since they seem to already have a well established attitude towards sugar. I try to bypass those who start off the relationship (arrangement) with some bias. It seems too demanding, too dramatic. This is the impression I have, but I’m open to contradiction (since this might be unfair of me).

  57. FunDude says:

    I notice that Kelly chick disappeared. She is the perfect example of the con women that are on this website making these phony SOB stories to get some beta to give her money for her “first meeting” because she had it so “rough” in the past.

    The female manipulation tactics are almost unlimited.

    I blame pussy beta males for this problem. If they didn’t listen to these types of women’s bullshit, this would never happen.

  58. Anonymous says:

    The GURU called out the fake story…The rest is history.

  59. Bob says:

    Elaine

    Your post made me wonder if you have a list of warning phrases for SD profiles? Something along the line of the “princess, I know my worth,.. etc.” list for SB profiles [but for SD’s]?

    It would be both fun and instructive. Thanks!

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Anytime I saw a profile that said “looking to have fun” or any variation of that I moved on. Code for not really looking for an arrangement just a low millage escort I can call occasionally when I want to get laid.

      “Not looking for anything serious but open to it if it happens.” Code for not looking for to give an allowance but hoping to string you along for as long as I can on the hopes that something more might come of this.

      • flyr says:

        Not sure if I really buy that but a good idea is to make it clear in a friendly way that an allowance is foundational.

        Looking to have fun may also be someone who really wants to do fun things in and out of bed.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Then wouldn’t you mention some of the fun things you’d like to do with your SB in your profile?

    • MissLady says:

      Or those that ‘looking to be liked for themselves’ more of I’m not doing an allowance I want match.com type relationship instead.

    • Attica M says:

      you didnt ask me so you can ignore this, but something that isn’t attractive is complaining in your profile.

      don’t put in your profile what you wouldn’t want to see in someone else’s. put what you want or rather, what you admire in a SB. what you can see yourself with.

      instead of “no fatties” try ” a woman who enjoys being fit and active.” you know?

      • Bob says:

        Thanks for the post. I only addressed it to Elaine as she had posted re a SD profile, but I’m happy to get any comments from the ladies out there.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      “I’m open to any type of arrangement” code for looking for P4P play but I’m going to mislead you into thinking I’m open to a traditional arrangement because you won’t meet me if I’m honest.

      • Attica M says:

        eh i think that could be discussed to clarify.

      • Anonymous says:

        “I’m open to any type of arrangement” = I am terrible at making decisions and can not decide, tell me what i want

      • Attica M says:

        ” i am open to any type of arrangement.”
        i will cater to your needs, whatever they may be.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Attica The question wan’t could it discussed to clarify it’s what are red flags in SD profiles. Everything can be discussed to verify.

        @Anonymous when I see that in a SB profile I take it to mean the same as you. They just don’t want to risk the possibility of eliminating a POT by being too specific. But an SD knows what he signed up here to find. Whether his intentions are good or nefarious he didn’t pay a membership fee for shits and giggles.

      • Attica M says:

        or you could just be that open if both want the same thing. communication and clarification is important. to me its the same as saying “mutually beneficial arrangement.”

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Damn it. Please forgive typos. “The question wasn’t could it be discussed to verify….

    • elaine says:

      @Bob

      Well, clichés are a “no”.
      But for me it is not really words or lines that turn me off, it is the attitude that shines through some words….

      For this reason, I hardly react to very short profiles, I want to know more about the person behind, before I invest any time in further contact.

      Furthermore lack of self confidence, narrowmindness, bragging or arrogance.
      My favourite quote is:

      “Power is like being a lady, if you have to tell people you are, you are not” -M.Thatcher-

      So every man who has to TELL in his profile how Alpha he is, how rich, how athletic, how intelligent, how classy etc, for me is suspected and I will immediately next them.
      All these characteristics will be recognized from a well written profile if you indeed possess them.. No need to mention. It makes you look silly.
      And worse, if you have to brag, it shows your insecurity, could there be a bigger turn off??

      And even though I know AND accept it is your party, don’t make that too obvious in your profile.

      And don’t contradict yourself.
      Stating to be an intelligent and educated CEO and then mention in your profile something like: “no fatties”, for me is a contradiction.

      Best profiles for me are humorous, intelligent written, non clichè and respectful.

      p.s. Oh yes, and even though I am not an English native speaker myself, I DO recognize bad grammar!
      Text speak? So childish! Next!

  60. elaine says:

    Talking (again) about Alpha’s, Beta’s ,Omega’s and the rest of the alphabet, this comes to mind, when seeing this profile of a man calling himself an Alpha.

    Would a real Alpha fill 1/4 of his “About me” section with talk about his net worth, even though this is already clearly stated in the net worth description?
    Or would this mean in realty he is a Beta in disguise, and cannot attract girls without having to focus on his wealth…….

    …..Interesting question 😉

    • Attica M says:

      I find it hilarious that men do that.

      I wonder what weird hyper masculine blogger thought that up. Even my past Doms weren’t so in need of constant ego stroking.

      Pretty sure it was Hopsin, in his Ill Mind 5, who said “a real ‘man’ don’t brag about being real as long as he knows it.”

    • FilmGirl76 says:

      1. People who have “that much money” hide it & don’t talk about net worth in public.
      2. People who have to gloat & crow about how alpha they are, and only posers, sure they might be uber Dom in a local S&M club, or online forum, but the ones who exude alpha do so quietly, & the ladies still com running. :)

      • Anonymous says:

        agreed, if you spout how alpha you are, most likely, you are not at all, It is kind of like being a king and running around telling everyone that they must listen because you are the king

      • flyR says:

        Wise thoughts

    • Anonymous says:

      do REAL alphas even have the time to waste complaining about those that aren’t?? Wouldn’t even make their radar to care

      • Attica M says:

        are we really entertaining the idea that men, human men are calling themselves and others alphas and betas?

        oh lordt.

    • Kore says:

      Hehe. Some gloating is alright if it’s meant as a joke, but hearing “I’m awesome,” (or anything that equates to that) multiple times a day is a sign of over compensation. Not sexy at all.

      Alpa? Not really, but not exactly beta either.

  61. Anonymous says:

    Re: China girl in fake @Kelly story?

    Fuck her.

  62. Anonymous says:

    A good number of vocal women want society to deal with women like retarded children. @Kelly is one such “shining” example.

  63. Anonymous says:

    @Kelly

    “The ladies know what goes into getting ready for a date, buying a new dress or/and shoes, makeup, hair, tanning, nails, waxing… it’s a lot of time and can be a lot of money too.”

    If you live in a jungle and come to civilization from time to time to go on dates…then yes.

    • Anonymous says:

      I wouldn’t mind giving the money for parking, gas, or babysitting. I think it is the gentlemanly thing to do. But to pay for your makeup, hair extensions, and stupid nail polish that us guys don’t give a shit about is not gonna happen. I personally prefer minimal makeup on a woman. All those things you have are already paid for and used on a daily basis not just for the first POT date.

      • flyr says:

        YES forget all the plastic stuff – get some rest, dress appropriately , hair clean fresh smelling. The mission of your outfit is to demonstrate that you can dress appropriately and to offer reliable hints as to what you might look like NAKED. The perfect outfit only matters to you and your gay partner. As an example 99.9% of men presented with pictures of women in swimsuits will pick the simpler one assuming the women are the same.

        answer all your texts, 10 minutes out think that you are walking into an arena …….. tune up the listening antenna, forget your disaster dates and your fantasy (but unrealized ) dates, get in the now and stay engaged.

        SA to 90% of the world does not mean SeekArrang but rather situational awareness……. Listen, look for opportunities to present yourself. It doesn’t matter how good you are , what matters is how good you are for your prospective partner ( works both ways)

    • Attica M says:

      haha , tanning. haha.

    • MissLady says:

      well damn, I’ve been doing date prep all wrong!! Here I should’ve been tanning to get my summer color up to par, my melanin has been looking kinda pasty lately…

  64. Anonymous says:

    The bloggers don’t like outing, but do SNARKY Douchebags?

    Couple weeks earlier declined SD:
    who Joined September 17, 2015
    SD You are so full of shit. SD You must be a dude
    as I lay here sleepy I’ll say good night to you
    Thank you for your time and your consideration.
    Good bye and best wishes
    SD: Go jack off
    Then, there is the Sugar Daddy who can’t help but to be rude and abusive in his messages because he thinks just because he has money he therefore has the right to go on some power trip.
    https://www.seekingarrangement.com/blog/blog/2012/02/21/fending-off-the-bad-apple-sugar-daddies/
    SD: Is your dick more than 3 inches
    GOODBYE NO NEED TO RESPOND
    SD: Just jack off
    thanks for reminding me that I made the right decision———–
    I WILL REPORT YOUR NEXT ANGRY HATE FILLED ABUSIVE MESSAGE.

  65. Anonymous says:

    @Kelly’s story is fake. I have read it before somewhere.

    • elaine says:

      Well in that case she has had her 15 min. of fame and a lot of clicks on her profile. 😉

    • Anonymous says:

      Am I the only one concerned about that China girl being locked up in his basement?

      • Kelly30LikesOlderMen says:

        I was concerned to and my experience isn’t made up.

      • Anonymous says:

        shocking that Kelly’s profile doesn’t exist any more.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Strongly suspect she’s just a escort/rinser who concocted that story to get the gullible men with more money than sense, to give her money upfront to prove they’re real after enduring such an ordeal at the hands of a “fake SD” She’ll be back with a new profile and persona soon enough.

  66. THEATLSD says:

    Anybody know what a “Swirler” is?

  67. Kelly30LikesOlderMen says:

    Just like the men who have had bad experiences, the ladies have too. I met a guy from this site once who demanded to meet in the city (in miles, not far but with the nightmare of traffic, takes 1 1/2 hours each way) But his profile read well and he was offering a substantial allowance. The ladies know what goes into getting ready for a date, buying a new dress or/and shoes, makeup, hair, tanning, nails, waxing… it’s a lot of time and can be a lot of money too. Then I drive all the way to the city and have to park in a garage for a $20 fee. Then I go to the date, he seems uncomfortable and trying too hard to impress me which makes me think that he’s insecure and nervous. He starts showing me bank records to prove he has over a million dollars. Whatever. I didn’t ask for that and now it’s making me uncomfortable. Dinner ends, I get back to my car to find the garage closed and it’s locked inside. He says he’ll give me a ride home but we have to walk back to his condo to get his keys first. So I reluctantly go to his place with this awkward man. We get inside and he bolt locks the door behind us. Then he starts asking me to sit down and relax. Again I reluctantly sit on the opposite side of the room from him. He starts telling me about his last SB. He liked that she was subsurvient to him. He admits she lived in his guest room for 7 years and when he came home from work she would have the house cleaned and dinner made and be naked in a bowing position on the floor. He would have her suck his toes from her position in the floor while he ate dinner. He showed me her room to prove it. Everything was there, clothes, suit case, books, family pictures… He says she got sick of him and moved back to China. I excused myself to use the bathroom. I came back to him naked on the sofa. He demanded that I take my dress of and get on the floor to suck his toes. I grabbed my purse and went for the door. He threw a lamp at me. I got away. That night he sent me 65 text messages threatening to rape and murder me. I had to change my phone number. You think the risk of losing a couple hundred dollars is dollars is bad? The risk the female puts herself in is greater, I promise and all in all, I was out $200+. Which might not be a lot to the SD’s out there but it was a lot to me.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Your situation had nothing to do with him and everything to do with your own lack of common sense. You repeatedly chose to put yourself at risk throughout the whole process. Even though you felt uncomfortable from the start of the date you kept putting yourself at risk probably couldn’t resist the lure of the substantial allowance.

      • Kelly30LikesOlderMen says:

        @Jaybird I did take some risks but I was giving him the bennifit of the doubt and to bash me because I could have been the victim of a really bad crime, is wrong. I bet you’re one of those girls that blame rape victims for wearing short skirts just so the guys think you’re “one of the guys”. In actuality you’re just desperate to be accepted. I think you are sad.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        How is your situation comparable to a rape victims? Besides showing you documents that said he had a million dollars, what did he say or do throughout your whole interaction with him that made you think he deserved the benefit of the doubt? Call me a bitch, cold blooded whatever, but I feel zero sympathy for you. Hopefully you’ve learned your safety and life is more important than the prospect of making a couple of dollars. If would’ve raped you he should prosecuted just like any other criminal. He responsible for his actions just like you are.

      • Anonymous says:

        wow Kelly is really lacking common sense, many of victimized women have given their attacker the ( benefit of the doubt), this is where following the red flags comes in, and just because jay has common sense does not mean she is a bitch, she is right, and really is doing you a service explaining your mistake to you, instead of saying, sucks to be you. but you lack even the basic common sense to see that, good luck with that

      • Anonymous says:

        furthermore, there would be less victims of every kind if people just had basic common sense, and followed instincts, but that is not going to happen either, people are always looking to deflect responsibility of their actions onto someone else. I should be able to do any dumb shit I want and not suffer consequences, yeah ok

      • Anonymous says:

        One last thing Kelly, this is not meant to bash you or call you stupid, this is meant to help you recognize red flags and follow your instincts in the future

      • FunDude says:

        @Jaybird

        Speaking some truth to the ladies. Hopefully, you don’t get kicked out of the “sisterhood” where all women are perfect little angels and men are all crap.

        Also, I didn’t hear anything criminal that was done. It sounds like he was weirdo but didn’t rape or do anything criminal.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Fundude Am I one of the guys now? Please say yes. I am so desperate to be accepted I went against the sister circle :-))

      • FunDude says:

        @jaybird

        Better not screw around with the sisterhood, they don’t PLAY!

      • Anonymous says:

        Fundude, the threats on her phone are criminal activity, according to the law.

      • Kore says:

        @FunDude Even if it weren’t against the law, it is still worth a report. If he commits a serious crime in the future, it will make a difference to have this show up in his history.

      • Kore says:

        Instead of sending him to jail, they could send him to a mental institution, maybe.. Instead of just letting him ‘free.’

      • Anonymous says:

        I am of the opinion that if he was going to harm her, he would have….this story was phony, kelly is gone, this is all just speculation

    • Anonymous says:

      ” He would have her suck his toes from her position in the floor ” how did she get in the floor? If you can not see the red flags of creepy while in public with someone, you have a far better chance to be locked in their basement, naked and chained, stop making decisions based solely on dollar amount, sounds like you have horrible instincts and lack common sense, maybe watch id channel once in a while

    • FunDude says:

      What do you expect for a dude that is willing to theoretically pay “10,000 dollars per month”?

      He is going to expect crazy stuff for that level of money.

      • Anonymous says:

        she obviously has ZERO common sense, and bases her expectation on her unrealistic views of humanity

      • Anonymous says:

        Not everyone who is able to pay substantial is a maniac such as the one she is describing. This is not crazy stuff level, it is criminal stuff level. She should have reported him to the police, along with his number and house info. That poor girl probably never made it to China, especially if you saw all those suitcases and stuff. She must be locked in his basement, crying for help.

      • Kelly30LikesOlderMen says:

        I don’t think he had any intention on paying anyone an allowance because he kept saying he had to run his own background check before he would consider helping anyone financially in the time being, he wanted the SB to get nasty.

      • Anonymous says:

        Kelly, your comment should have ended at, I didn’t think.

    • THEATLSD says:

      Yea bad move on your part. If you thought it was weird at the restaurant then there was only one safe move when you found your car locked in garage. Have him order a cab/uber and wait at the restaurant.
      Was there no sign posting hours of garage?

      This whole story is suspect.

      Also, you have a great body but you need to clean your bathroom sink 😉

    • Kore says:

      Yes, you didn’t follow your instincts and you had to deal with the consequences. Now you know better. Glad you weren’t hurt.

      Everyone faces this risk, but not everyone plays along with the accompanying BS. Know what you want and don’t compromise with what’s important.

      • Anonymous says:

        if you end up in this situation =, sounds like your instincts are suspect at best

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I hate when people make excuses for these type of situations. There was nothing wrong with her instincts. She states repeatedly that she felt uncomfortable. She has perfectly fine instinct she just chose to ignore them.

      • Anonymous says:

        so if she has good instincts and chooses to ignore them, how is that anu different than having bad instincts? it is not better, in fact, it would be better to just be dumb, with poor instincts than ignoring red flags and better judgment

      • Jaybird923 says:

        It’s different. I can feel some sympathy for the dim wit who doesn’t know any better. But I feel nothing but disdain for the individual who knows better but chooses to put them selves at risk anyways

      • Kore says:

        There are many reasons why a person could end up in this kind of situation. No one willingly puts themselves in (what is for them) a bad situation?

      • Anonymous says:

        yes, if she had down syndrome i suppose it would have been different

      • Jaybird923 says:

        People willing put themselves in situations they no they shouldn’t all the time. Usually they are gambling that the potential rewards will out way the risk. They’re almost always wrong

    • elaine says:

      “The ladies know what goes into getting ready for a date, buying a new dress or/and shoes, makeup, hair, tanning, nails, waxing…”

      A lot of money?
      This always make me chuckle! My God….

      It is your first date with him, so how will he even know your dress and shoes are new?
      And do you really think he gives a d*mn about that, or you being tanned, or your nails?
      I am not a man, but c’mon… you need make-up and hair?
      I do my make up and hair every morning!

      Of course you need to look great for an SD, but this you don’t do for him, this you do for yourself.

      I am very sorry for your bad experience, but you don’t really acted as the sharpest knife in the drawer.
      Your profile and pics are not really helping either…

      • Anonymous says:

        for the record, we don’t care

      • Kelly30LikesOlderMen says:

        You sound suspiciously like a hater… watch yourself

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Elaine don’t you know the rules by now? If you are a woman and don’t agree with the stupid shit women do and say you are a hater or jealous. Careful you don’t get kicked out of the sister circle

      • Anonymous says:

        for the record, I wasnt hating, my (we dont care) was meant for her statement about hair and nails, I just do not think it is all that important to most guys

      • elaine says:

        @Jay

        Yes, you are right…. should have known better….

    • Kore says:

      Kelly, you should have kept the messages he’d sent you and filed a report, just so the police have on record that he is possibly a threat.

      He seems very insecure and over-compensating, so it’s easier for me to suspect that he’d staged the evidence of the previous SB having lived with him.

      Also, him wanting to have his toes sucked is nothing to judge.

  68. FlyBoy says:

    You can’t fix beta even if you stick a magic wand up it’s ass!

    Go ahead and discuss, class.

    Cheers :)

  69. FunDude says:

    The only thing worse than a gold digging “flaky” woman who gets banged out by tons of Chads during their prime then tries to settle with beta bucks (average American/Western Woman) is:

    THE BETA WHITE KNIGHT PUSSY BEGGAR. That clown is slow low in SMV, even after he pays some slut to “hang out”, she still bolts on his dumbass after she gets his money. Chumps like this make the rinsers exist and makes it bad for all men.

    Don’t be a pussy White Knight pussy beggar like that clown “anonymous” or end up like him.

    End of class!

  70. Sugar baby monkey says:

    Whatever Riviera. Sugar baby monkey fell in love with a monkey named Jako but his sex is not clean

  71. Riviera Undercover says:

    I would like somebody to give me the finer things in life treat me like a lady for a reasonable cost…huh?

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Maybe she wants to pay someone to treat her like a lady?

    • Sugar baby monkey says:

      Obviously you’re not a lady, you’re a whore. You should use the correct word BUT are you a woman or a man? And where is Josh lol it’s very weird that he’s not here writing. It’s funny when a man describes a dirty woman like someone caring and friendly

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        Yes, I am a Whore. My Mum was so proud when I got my Whore badge at the hairy beavers club …

  72. Sugar baby monkey says:

    Whores

  73. Sugar baby monkey says:

    Hi idiots I just wanna say that I will leave this disgusting hole of wores and dirty dicks

  74. Anonymous says:

    Did skinny women discriminate against fat ones, or vice versa, while boarding the boats in Titanic?

  75. cryptic anomaly says:

    @Film Girl – The problem with professional photos is they make everyone look the same. I get bored seeing the usual selfies and/or pro modeling pics on here all the time. The girls who stand out to me are the ones with the ordinary and sometimes even not so great photos.

    I can afford a professional photo to be taken but 1/ As above I don’t think they make a great impression. 2/ I’m a bloke, blokes don’t pose for photos. 3/ I couldn’t think of anything more painful than doing that.

  76. EducatedCurvyLatina says:

    To travel Is my passion.. Any traveler Daddy?

  77. Anonymous says:

    Re: 24 unsuccessful sugar dates.

    Initial questions:

    1. Do you live in US or some other non-anal-retentive country?
    2. What is your pussy situation?
    3. What is your personal situation, as in can you travel for 1-2 weeks at a time?
    4. How old are you…as in what is your libido level?

    • Anonymous says:

      USA – not sure what you mean – maybe 1-2 times a year, but typically not that long – mid 30s.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        You’re MId 30’s? That makes your situation even worst. OK honestly what’s wrong with you? There has to be something if it’s not looks

      • MissLady says:

        so that means you’re probably targeting the 18 and up crowd. Going by the other frame of references that most of that demographic is using like countless are saying DO NOT give up front, treat yes. Put the monkey on their back to show and prove that they’re legit (you’ll probably get called all kinds of salt etc, just shake it off and keep going). They want the job of being your sugar baby.

        The majority of that crowd thinks they’re doing YOU the favor, just keep that in mind

      • Kore says:

        People are taking advantage of you. I also suggest you find someone who isn’t in desperation…

        Maybe if you’re willing to post the area in which you’re searching, some bloggers will help scan some profiles for you. I’ll take the time to suggest 3, if you want.

    • Anonymous says:

      1. Are you in some kind of regular relationship that you are trying to continue?
      2. Why?
      3. Again, what is your pussy situation. Are you getting any on a regular basis?
      4. If you are getting it on a regular basis, then why are you playing the sugar field?

      • Anonymous says:

        No – I am getting some, yes. Maybe it’s just my expectations. I thought it would get easier as I made more $. It’s gotten harder. Live in a small town for family reasons so I’d imagine distance plays a role in issues. It’s about 1-2 hour drive to area where there are more younger people and more to choose from.

      • Attica M says:

        you just shouldn’t do allowances then. just take them out for dinner or shopping trips after they show up on time for a month. we all need help, but i really think you should not be striking out so much.
        wish you luck <3

      • Anonymous says:

        Well…things are not as bad as initially thought.

        1. Conserve your cash to be able to continue to play the field.
        2. NEVER pay anything upfront.
        3. NEVER pay for emergencies. It’s better to end an arrangement then try to save them from themselves.
        4. Scree them better than what you were doing.
        5. Post questions while you are communicating with new ones. Let us guide you through the minefield.
        6. Have faith…it will get better with time.
        7. If your pussy situation gets drier…make trips to Germany often.

  78. Attica M says:

    anyone here an artist?
    does digital or traditional art?
    animators?
    character designer?

  79. Anonymous says:

    My 24 stories – not in chronological order. Only 4 of these resulted in any intimacy.

    #1 and #2 – total no shows. Never showed up for 1st date after saying ‘on my way’ or I sent a ride. $0

    #3 – no-showed on 2nd date (had front row tickets to a show we both liked and agreed to see) and never apologized. $0

    #4 – spent a few dates with her over several months. She was younger so sometimes, flaky or out of town a lot. After not hearing from her for a while, she called me and wanted to come back to town – bought her plane ticket. Made up some excuse and never heard from her again after that. Spent about $5,000. Enjoyed our time – thought this could be something and I offered such, but she just vanished.

    #5 – went out 3 times over 6-8 weeks Always was late. Had one awesome date. Helped out with $1,000 and then she vanished after that.

    #6 – 2 dates. Complained about legal issued; offered to help with attorney and that fight and set things up for that, but she could never verify the legal issue. Never took the help and then told me off saying I am supposed to buy her gifts and throw her cash. $0

    #7 – 2 dates. Great time except she got very mad and threatening with too much alcohol. I bailed on this one. $2,000

    #8 – Asked for ‘meeting fee’ at last minute. I declined – we met anyway. Slipped her $200 at end of date, which I thought went well, when she wanted $150. Asked to meet again. Never heard from her again in any form.

    #9 – several dates over several months. Very flaky and would periodically message me wanting ‘help’ despite ignoring other requests. $2,500

    #10 – Wanted per meeting fee which she upped at last minute. Never heard from her again. Got annoyed with me. $300

    #11 – One date; complained about a criminal situation and bond the whole time. I bailed. $0

    #12 – Talked before she moved to town. Was very upfront about the entire ‘deal’ and she agreed. Wanted money before the deal was 100% complete to show I was authentic. She got distant after that and tried to make bailing seem like my idea. Pleasant to talk too, though. $500

    #13 & #14 – 2 girls, 2 dates. They weren’t interested and declined my help or meeting again. Thumbs up, I’d say. $0

    #15 – Last minute after talking much, she started to flake out and demand proof I wasn’t a murderer. We met – it was a nice time but I was already pretty turned off by this. $0

    #16 – Got suckered into helping with a small bill before meeting. She vanished. We ended up meeting up and had a decent time but she wanted more help. I did a little more, stupidly. $350

    #17 – Several dates and talks. Thought having sex as part of our relationship was a joke. I ended that one but helped out with about $1,000

    #18-#24 – pretty much the same scenario. 1-2 dates each. Helped out a little bit in most cases and then everyone just disappeared. $3,000

    • Attica M says:

      well damn.

    • MissLady says:

      Yes, someone help him please….

    • Jaybird923 says:

      You My friend suffer from the white knight syndrome.

      #1 Why keep falling for these sob stories? That’s your first sign to bail.

      #2 Never give money to people you aren’t in a relationship with. Paying for dinner, drinks and a cab is perfectly acceptable. But under no circumstance should you pay bills, give money for meets, or for whatever emergency they’ve concocted to swindle you out of money.

      • Anonymous says:

        Idiocy is easy to see when you are on the outside – I never looked at this like being a white knight. This was more “hey, I am serious about the arrangement aspect” – it just was rarely reciprocated consistently, if ever.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        You shouldn’t have to provide money in advance to show you’re serious. That’s the equivalent of asking for sexual favors in advance so she can prove she’s serious. If she’s worried about being scammed (and I can’t believe I’m saying this) then offer P4P.

      • Anonymous says:

        Right, but what does that look like? I think I have learned that if she asks for $ upfront to ‘show seriousness’, then she’s just trying to rinse it seems. Or if the trust isn’t there, it’s not meant to be. You have a great time – both sides are allegedly interested – what next?

      • MissLady says:

        *gasp*

      • Anonymous says:

        Alright, nobody is going to tell me. LOL. Sounds silly. Just maybe this isn’t for me. I thought it was.

      • Anonymous says:

        Or maybe there is a good SD profile I can look at?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        If you meet and both sides are interested or seem interested then you meet again. Before the second meet work out the details of the arrangement.

        If she say she’s not ready for intimacy or wants to get to know you better that’s fine, but no funds should exchange hands. Make sure she understands you’re willing to give her the time she needs but you’re not going to pay for it.

        The ones who are only interested in rinsing you will disappear the one who genuinely want to get to know you will show up and not ask for anything.

      • FunDude says:

        @Jaybird

        He sounds like a weak nerd that probably looks like a total dweeb in real life. They see suck the whole time.

        They are so repulsed by his weakness/betatude that the bolt after getting the cash because they can’t see sleeping with him.

        Betas gonna beta.

        WHO THE FUCK GIVES SOME BITCH MONEY so fast? This beta clown is giving women all kinds of money before sleeping with them!

    • AnonymousSSSD says:

      Wow Wow Wow!

      Sorry, but you are a slow learner. I totally understand why some of they women on this site behave the way they do. This type of “sucker” behavior just enables these scammers. DON’T PAY A DIME UNTIL AN ARRANGEMENT IS AGREED UPON AND CONSUMMATED WITH INTIMACY!!!

      I have 2 sb’s. One for 2+ years and the other for 3 months. Never paid a DIME in advance short of lunch and drinks. Smarten up dude. You’re effing up the program for everyone else.

      • Anonymous says:

        In the times a deal has been agreed upon involving everything, it’s usually come down to me being asked “how can I trust you?” So, how do you cross that bridge understanding that the girls don’t want to get scammed either?

      • AnonymousSSSD says:

        First, get background verified on here. Do it once and once only. Trust me it helps. Secondly, I’ve never had a woman pull that how can I trust you bs. You tell them they can either trust you or you will move on. Never negotiate from weakness. There are plenty of other fish out there. Considering your dismal record though, you might want to just stick with providers. At least with them, you’re guaranteed to get something for your money.

      • AnonymousSSSD says:

        Always do a ppm arrangement at first so neither party is taken advantage. If they balk at that, then next them. You’ll find one eventually. Don’t be desperate and weak.

      • FunDude says:

        Fucking pussy betas like him make me sick to be male.

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      I have been scammed a few times, generally a few weeks in. I would never give an advance to someone I haven’t met and I won’t compensate for platonic companionship. If you like someone, have great sex and enjoy their company, when they do the I am in arrears with my rent, both cases true as I cleared rent arrears to legit letting agencies, they then became hard to reach. One did my Gran is dying, another orchestrated a fight…

    • Anonymous says:

      Do you want help, my friend, or just venting?

    • THEATLSD says:

      You must have inherited your money. I have a hard time believing a SD that worked for his money would give it up that easily. After number 3 you should have hunkered down and been in control. The sugar bowl ain’t for everyone.

    • Joey says:

      A fool and his money are soon parted.

      I NEVER give a girl cash beyond a taxi fare until we have had sex.

      If you follow that one simple rule you will have more intimacy for far less money.

      I’m serious about arrangements, but I always assume that the other party is not until she proves she is.

    • elaine says:

      @Anonymous

      I think you are far too impatient and eager.

      It all comes down to PATIENCE, SELECTION CRITERIA and READING the profiles, a good understander can learn very much from that….

      Start a conversation via messaging or video chat before jumping into meetings.
      The rinsers want quick results, they will not invest time in getting to know you a little better before.

      And, as some already said before, NEVER pay anything upfront!
      Why on earth would you need to prove to “be real”?
      You are there in front of her, talking to her, so that is enough proof you “are real”!

      Your eagerness probably shows through, but never forget; YOU pay, this is about YOU.
      So if anyone has to prove something it is HER!
      An SB who doesn’t understand that is not worth your time and efforts anyway.

      And in case you are only in the sugarbowl for quick sex, take an escort, cheaper and easier!

      • Anonymous says:

        I’ve certainly filtered out quite a few by chatting before hand. A lot of girls just disappear after some texts or a phone call – I definitely want to know who it is I am meeting to some degree. So, despite my many failures, I probably have dodged a ton more bullets and have SOME filtering skills…LOL.

        Agreed, I may need to re-evaluate my approach. In most cases (with some small exceptions), I ONLY helped the girl when I thought the deal was ‘done’ due to our discussions and now that we had a good time and some funds were provided, it was now time to take the next step, most likely for the current date or next meet-up. When it seemed it wasn’t going to happen, my generosity stopped. For the girls where I did see them more and provided more funds, overnights did happen, but long-term the girls were either too flaky or started making less time for us, so I ultimately called those off. I thought that if we were getting along and providing some help as per the arrangement, then the girl would be inclined to make the time vs. finding excuses to get out of it, even if we were doing overnights.

        I’m here to learn – I’m not going to make excuses for beta-type behavior (can’t argue it was), but that sort of ‘beta-ness’ doesn’t show up in my business dealings. So, I get it – not making excuses – just trying to learn and the comments have been very helpful – both the nuanced ones and the ‘calling out’ ones.

        I’m getting it for sure, I think. I’ll keep everyone informed if this isn’t pissing everyone off too much.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Most of us have no issue helping those who come here genuinely looking for help. What we get here the most though is people who are only looking for validation for their actions or for us to tell them they are perfect. When we give advice or the critique they claimed to want they get defensive and angry. As long as you are receptive to the help I for one one will try to help as much as I can.

    • FunDude says:

      Beta pussy begging White knights are gonna beta.

      Women see pussy begging White Knight= take money from beta bucks chump and then go fuck Chad.

    • gtt_envy says:

      How old are you?

      I have a few like only that my verification process forces me to spend $100-$200, but out of the women I’ve met 90%+ turned into something.

      My issue is I get bored after 3-10 dates….since I could only see a SB 1-3 times a month….none lasted very long (except 1).

      I’m not Fundude young anymore over 40 now, but that’s the only thing I can think of is you are much older and maybe don’t have much in common with the girls/women you are trying to hang with.

      As far as younger aged girls flaking I only had SB’s under 24 the weeding out process usually did a good job with the flakes.

      The most reliable was 20 lol best of luck man!!

    • SD says:

      well anon ,you need some serious thought adjustment. I have had multiple wonderful SBs over the years from 1 1/2 yrs to a few dates . The most I have ever paid in allowance is $250 /date plus date costs. You are waaaaay over the line. Obviously the girls are disrespecting you because you are an easy target and they are bolting because they can’t believe their good fortune and are afraid that you will wake up and suck the money back

  80. Riviera Undercover says:

    WTF, whoever invented the term BBW?…

  81. MissLady says:

    “Letstalksugar: Never agree to a pay per meet!”

    you guys are doing it all wrong

    • Anonymous says:

      We’re doing just pay-per-meet with the possibility of going weekly or monthly with good track record.

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      I tried to monthly in arrears, but nobody went for it…

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      I always believed that PPM and allowance divided pro rata were quite different. If we agree 8k per month with 4 meetings per month then pro rata is 2k. I know I am great with maths ;-). But PPM is an amount a girl is happy with on ad hoc basis, say I visit the Riviera every few months and meet up with someone local since we have an ongoing understanding but a weekly or monthly allowance isn’t applicable…

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        I knew one girl who was mixing it up with 5 SD’s and so it was ad hoc, a semi professional if you will but she was hot and friendly, pre screened the guys. She is now in Dubai the plaything of a wealthy Arab…

      • THEATLSD says:

        That’s Roladexing. It’s popular with the Tumblr/IG SB.

    • uboat509 says:

      I ALWAYS start with a pay per meet because I do not know IF we are going to be compatible or not. The pay per meet allows her and me to have some time together, and see if there is chemistry, and sexual compatibility. One of my pot SB did not want me to touch her neck, or use my fingers for G-spot stimulation, etc. Needless to day, I gave her the per meeting allowance, and said good bye, and thanked her for her time.

  82. Anonymous says:

    Anyone interested in a post about the 24 girls I have met with via this site over the past 18 months? Total of $16,000 spent on the girls in terms of allowance/cash gifts – this excludes the other costs I incurred (e.g., meals, activities, tickets, SA monthly fees, etc. – easily another $10,000). Most of the meet-ups were only 1x, not all involved cash gifts, not all involved sex (most didn’t). We will also forget the general flakiness and ‘upfront fee’ demanders where a meeting was never arranged.

    • Attica M says:

      i am interested.

      i read so much from SB, would love to hear an SDs side.

    • Anonymous says:

      1. You spent $26,000 to meet 26 women for mostly platonic meetings?

      2. As most of them were 1x, let’s give you benefit of the doubt that you spent an average of $800-$1,000/meet.

      3. You are either a woman interested in concocting a Tumblr-like post, or you are fail.

      4. SBs would be interested. Some SDs would feel sorry for you…others will be pissed that you brough Tumblr vibes here.

      5. Post your sugar “experience” and face the music?

      • Anonymous says:

        *Sorry. $26,000 ($16,000+$10,000) to meet 24 women.

      • Anonymous says:

        Yes, fail is my conclusion, too. I am not even that mad about it the whole thing. Just thought it would be interesting to share if anyone wanted to hear. Maybe it’s not. I am just doing a post-mortem on my failure in this world.

      • Anonymous says:

        Also, I guess sharing seeing all of the outrageous stuff on Tumblr made sense. Yeah, there are awful guys, too, but many of the girls are just as flaky and ‘rinsers’ as they are called. I just don’t see a lot of stuff online about the ‘other side’ – well meaning dudes running into ‘salt babies’ or whatever.

      • Anonymous says:

        Since you have acknowledged your failure, you may want to post your experience from that perspective for new SDs to learn from it, and for you to learn from the critique.

        Make sure that you introduce sufficient white space in your prose for easy comprehension of the same.

    • Anonymous says:

      You must look like Quasimodo or a slow learner or both. Good thing you have money. You are gonna need it. You obviously neither have looks nor brains.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      You’d think after the third or fourth girl, the realization that your method of vetting POTs was severely flawed would come to you.

      • Anonymous says:

        Would like to learn how to ‘vet’ and to make this work to find something enjoyable. Decent looking here (not Quasimodo) – maybe just not great with women I suppose – which is why I thought it would be easier here.

      • THEATLSD says:

        One would think.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I’ll help you if you’d like. Once you pick up on some key words and phrases you’ll get better at recognizing who to avoid and if you’re unsure it’s always good to have someone to bounce things off of.

      • Anonymous says:

        You have a nice frame of reference and you come with humility. Post away. Some of us will help you out…as SDs rarely ask for help.

  83. Anonymous says:

    By chance, I am wondering, do girls maybe go in have little or zero respect for POT SDs via this site? After all if you have a bunch of money, why can’t you get a girl on your own? I think some of the girls go in with the mindset that there is ‘something wrong with the guy’ and that never lets the chemistry get off the ground.

    • Anonymous says:

      There are many reasons men use this site.

      1. They are married and don’t want to work the scene.
      2. They have limited time so they’d rather spend time online to check women out then to waste time working the scene.
      3. They are looking for a girl with a huge age difference.
      4. They want to explore kinks.
      5. Etc., etc., etc.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        I had my heart ripped out and stamped on in a normal relationship, so don’t really want one. When my last girlfriend told me she loved me, how could I tell her it wasn’t reciprocated. I don’t want or like children, you tell that to the woman looking for the one with a clock ticking. I just want all the advantages/positives without the negative, oh and a little hotter or out of my league…

      • Anonymous says:

        Correct.
        1. Limited time. Can’t go to the bars, or night clubs, or any other venues to cold solicit girls for drinks and sex.
        3. Looking for a girl with a huge (20 years younger) age difference.
        5. Reduce the drama associated with a traditional relationship.
        6. Discretion, less expensive than an escort, possibility of creating an emotional supportive and nurturing connection.
        7. I am a 6 or 7 looking for an 8 or 9. In the “real-world”, I do not get the time of the day even in a luxury car. Most attractive women want to fu.ck only very attractive guys; many men are not that attractive.

      • Anonymous says:

        Technically I don’t agree with your #7, but that is your reality.

        Women fuck confident men. They will pass over pretty boys that lack confidence. Looks and money does help ease the process.

        Abundance of pussy creates confidence in man. The sooner you create abundance, the sooner you will start banging hot chicks.

        Therefore, you need to ensure that you are fully-fucked all the times and continue to inch up your requirements in the next woman.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I don’t agree with your #7 also I have a preference for the 6-7 guys. They tend to have the better personalities. Not all but a lot of 8 and ups depend to much on their looks and I find most of them dull as hell.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        I am a confident guy, I am also a realist. I had this discussion with my female chauffeur previously, she said that if I walked into a bar with her I would pull. Luckily I wasn’t offended by “Fuck off Granddad”. I was 43 at the time…

      • Anonymous says:

        I am trying to convert one of my platonic-wanna-be POT into a wingwoman. She may do it. Will see.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        Here in the UK bars and clubs are either frequented by the young and hip, or the old, this venue will probably have the nickname of Jurassic Park. For some reason early 3’s women go out in packs and spend the whole evening drinking white wine in restaurants where I live skipping the bar and club scene. So unless you can pick up a 20 something it’s quite hard even with a wingwoman. Actually a POT offered me this not that long ago, well she said she could pull retail/bar girls…

    • Bartolo says:

      No I have not found that attitude. I’ve found unrealistic entitlement, “princess syndrome,” etc. however.

    • Anonymous says:

      One such woman posts here. She used to post as Rebecca. Now she posts as Reb.

  84. Anonymous says:

    Re: Good photographs?

    You don’t need a professional photographer for good photographs.

    All you need is to:

    1. Go to a public place of decent surroundings, park, museum, city block, whatever in a nice bright day
    2. Identify the fattest woman in the crowd who is not currently eating a tub of Cold Stone ice cream.
    3. Give her your camera.
    4. Tell her how to take photos.
    5. Ask her to take a few shots.
    6. Change location.
    7. Repeat 1-6 until you have enough photos.
    8. Select a few and post.

    • SouthernSB says:

      The fattest woman part is true. My mother’s husband’s daughter loves nothing better than taking pictures.

    • Anonymous says:

      The fattest woman part is to ensure that she does not run away with your phone OR if she tries then she does not go too far before you catch up to her.

  85. Anonymous says:

    Re: Brilliant statements about nail FUCKING polish.

    @Anonymous: “If I see a woman with really pretty face and a hot sexy body, I wouldn’t even care if she had fingers much less nails. On the other hand, if you are fat and ugly, it wouldn’t matter to me if you just spent $5,000 dollars on your nails. You are still fugly to me.”

    • Anonymous says:

      Here’s a secret I am going to divulge to you women: When us guys get together, we don’t giggle at each other and say “Hey Mark, did you see the awesome nails on that chick we met at the bar last night?” We remember your face, your tits and your ass. We don’t remember if you had 2 fingers or 10.

      • DontlikeSDterm says:

        The only nails discussion I have ever heard from guys is negative … such as Did you see thoooose nails!

      • Anonymous says:

        Correct…tits, ass, legs if they were exposed, maybe face and/or camel toe if there was one in sight.

  86. Liiaaa says:

    I made my SB profile earlier this week and Im just wondering if anyone has any tips on finding a successful arrangement and sorting out fake SDs. I’ve also been struggling with perfecting my profile. Thank you in advance!

    • Anonymous says:

      Which one of the photo is recent, and which one is from 5 years ago?

    • Anonymous says:

      You already asked this question in the other blogs. Repeating them will not change one inalienable fact: there is one feature in your profile that puts you at a disadvantage and there is nothing you can do about it. Tweaking and perfecting your profile with the right keywords will not help.

    • FilmGirl76 says:

      What people are telling you is your photos don’t match, go out with a good friend and get new fresh photos.

      Make sure they are in good light and not dark or grainy.

      THEN, clean up your bio and add in some personality. YOUR personality.
      You want to be a person someone is very attracted to, no a black slate everyone is going to forget.

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      What are your interests? Your profile doesn’t sound very fun. And yes, new photo’s…

    • THEATLSD says:

      Your location is changing. LA was a great place but in last year the Tumblr/IG girls are ruining the scene out there and a lot of the legit SD are cautious if not jaded.

  87. Anonymous says:

    What are the best tumblrs and tumblr tags to follow to see what people are talking about here? Also, are there any good tumblrs or sites that focus on good and bad from SD perspective?

  88. FilmGirl76 says:

    All these fancy lads claiming 500k or more in annual income & none of them can afford a decent photographer. Nor can they afford bridge toll either.

    It is embarrassing.

    • DontlikeSDterm says:

      There was a profile on Match from someone who was really marketing dating photos. Could be a good business idea here :)

      But the fact is that many of the lads with 500K in income probably prefer someone without purple hair. But maybe there is someone who likes the underground art scene. And there is the fact that single well-educated women in SF outnumber single well-educated straight men … so I’d think this site might have less of a crowd.

      And … I understate my income and net worth significantly.

      • FilmGirl76 says:

        I don’t specialize in dating site photos, These guys could go out and get the local 50.00 studio to do a good enough job. I think think it ways something about how they present themselves.

        Last thing I want to be chatting about on a date is my job, much like the man I’d be sharing a fun evening with.

      • DontlikeSDterm says:

        Keep in mind that almost any lad making 500K is working 60-80 hours per week (I’m working today trying to wrap up some projects). Taking time to find a quality studio and deal with everything takes a few hours. And … I’m not going to use the photographers that our marketing department brings in for professional purposes.

    • Anonymous says:

      If you were 23, a bit slimmer, a bit taller, and a bit better looking then world would be your oyster…but since you are not…roll with the punches and adjust your expectations accordingly.

      • FilmGirl76 says:

        I’m not complaining about the number of men asking me out. I’m not even complaining about the quality of men asking me out & making me great offers, I’m trying to understand the whole “I own several houses, time shares on airplanes, 2 boats” (& still have selfies in the bathrooms)

      • Anonymous says:

        Next them or whine about them in Tumblr?

      • DontlikeSDterm says:

        Well that’s a good indication of a liar … I suppose I could own several houses and two boats … and there is a guns or butter aspect to this considering payments on a late model Cessna 182. But if someone is telling you they have a timeshare in a jet … good chance they are not being truthful. Among other things, the fractional jet business is rapidly declining for a variety of reasons.

        But alas, I drive a 10 year old car that I bought new and keep driving … so I must be a fake.

    • Attica M says:

      i actually don’t mind the bathroom selfies as i don’t have someone following me around ready to take pictures of me.

      what i dont like is the shorthand texting and random use of CAPS. are you actually 12 years old?

  89. Anonymous says:

    Profile words that make me click “next”:
    Platonic
    Spoiled
    Princess
    50 shades
    I know my worth

    • UKMaleSB says:

      I think you should give a little credit to the ones who can spell properly.

    • IHF2030 says:

      Actually, a “50 Shades” reference would certainly pique my interest, I must say.

      • Anonymous says:

        Unfortunately, the “looking for my Richard Gere” has been replaced by “looking for my Christian Grey”. Same delusional fantasy, different generation and era. But the underlying concept is the same: a young handsome billionaire oozing with a Captain Save A Ho complex.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        Every fifty shades of grey profile that I have contacted has never actually wanted the BDSM element. So I guess I should cease with the so you are into BDSM joke, as I am never going to read or watch it. having just seen the media hype…

      • THEATLSD says:

        Got one SB here who is looking for her Christian Grey but wants a platonic arrangement. If that ain’t an oxymoron…

      • MissLady says:

        LOL, I think most only remember that he was a ‘billionaire’ not that he wanted to string them up, whip em and sex em

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Don’t forget the secretly bugging your phone, telling who you can and can’t talk to, what to eat, how to dress,etc. Because he was rich they over look all the stalker/creepy shit that went on in that book

      • MissLady says:

        oh see, I didn’t even read the books! I did have a date and the guy wanted to watch it….not impressed….

      • Jaybird923 says:

        It’s garbage. The only people who enjoyed that book are teenage school girls and Middle aged women. The only good thing in the book as far as I’m concern is the music list.

      • Anonymous says:

        The first movie grossed more than half billion dollars with a production cost of 40 million dollars…that is better than 1400% ROI already.

        If the second one is executed properly…it may cost 80 million and may gross $1 billion. It could be a bomb if executed incorrectly…but since the chick is hot…they may pull it off with steamy scenes.

      • MissLady says:

        Yes the soundtrack was great, loved Annie Lennox and The Weeknd!

        That’s why beauty is in the eye of the beholder, I did not think the chick was that hot.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I didn’t hear the soundtrack from the movie. Except for the song by weekend. She has a really great play list that’s mostly classical pieces, with some rock and pop thrown in.

        The woman matches the description of the character in the book she’s not supposed to be hot. She’s supposed to be your stereotypical bookworm who gets transformed when the Oh so handsome guy sees beyond that.

      • Kore says:

        The Weeknd is great. His songs are pretty sexy..

        I own the book, but can’t get past the first few chapters.. Heard it was a fan version of Twilight, from which I also read the first few chapters and didn’t continue.. The quality of text went from bad to poor..

        It’s attractive to many girls to have a dominant man who is impressive without having to try. The dumber ones tolerate controlling and possessive behaviour…

    • Attica M says:

      as an actual kinky person, i fucking hate these “50 shades of(his name here)”

      probably dont even know the difference between sensory deprivation and sounding. pfff.

  90. Riviera Undercover says:

    Me me me:
    Have you had sugar babies in the past then? I’m quite open… Looking for a sugar daddy that I see maybe a few times a month / week for nice dinners, drinks, weekends away & shopping trips depending on his schedule. A monthly or weekly allowance to keep me at my best for you.

    For a start, I would make sure I kept things drama free for my SD, ensuring I always looked good, nice hair, make up, nails whenever we met and were together. Good conversation and lots of laughs on all of our meetings

    Hmmmm…

    • UKMaleSB says:

      I like it. Nicely rehearsed. Taking on board some of the recommended tips from SA. She’s premeditated lots of laughs too. Sounds promising to me.

    • DontlikeSDterm says:

      Is there any guy who thinks nails are important ….

      • Anonymous says:

        Women do that for other women. Men don’t give a shit about nails.

      • IHF2030 says:

        Yes, I prefer that a woman uses clear nail polish or none at all.

      • MissLady says:

        You would be surprised….to some it’s an indication of femininity.

      • DontlikeSDterm says:

        Do I appreciate nail polish from time to time? Yes
        Do I appreciate fake nails from a salon ever? No

      • Anonymous says:

        If I see a woman with really pretty face and a hot sexy body, I wouldn’t even care if she had fingers much less nails. On the other hand, if you are fat and ugly, it wouldn’t matter to me if you just spent $5,000 dollars on your nails. You are still fugly to me.

  91. UKMaleSB says:

    Signed up to SA back in 2013 but then entered into a relationship so come off. First day back on this site and it is entertaining to say the least. Some of the comments are hilarious. Pretty shocking how much bitching goes on though. Completely different world to what I am use to.

    I am amazed at the efforts some people go to to find a SD. I signed up out of curiosity and I guess the same thing brought me back. People seem to be holding out to make a small fortune on here.

    You’d think people would be using their ‘arrangement’ a little more wisely too. Handbags and shoes?!

    As one of the ladies previously mentioned about the type of girls/ ‘women’ on here, seem to be the Tumblr type. SA seems a paradise for the whores of Instagram. However, a paradise for the mature SD, I’m sure.

  92. Missxteen says:

    I would love mentorship because I am business minded; living and upkeep expense and of course travel :)

    • Anonymous says:

      It would be hard for you to get an arrangement let alone mentor-ship. There are just too many black escorts on the site that random black SBs don’t do well here. Sorry…but it is what it is.

      That said…most women take men’s “mentor-ship” for granted as they take their money for granted.

      Most women believe that men are interested in them because of their vagina…and the hard, cold reality is they are correct.

    • Attica M says:

      omg youre so pretty! <3
      i wish you luck on here!

  93. sweeetpaula says:

    Definitely adore the mentorships the most as an added bonus! Alas, I am a traditional sugar seeker, which helps with upkeep and living expenses :)

    • Anonymous says:

      You don’t look 20.

    • rembodler says:

      Paula: your “exclusive from the start” is a no-go. I know a gent who is in St. Pete very often and who can without a blink offer you your desired allowance and a a couple shopping trips as a perk…
      But your SD – who will meet you a few times a month – has no reason to trust your “Oh, I am soooo exclusive…” If you are as amazing as you claim to be and can be indeed be exclusive – I think he will go way and above practical…
      Just saying…;-)

      • DontlikeSDterm says:

        Please … don’t build expectations. There are three guys in Tampa/St. Pete who can do that … two of them are married and the other is gay :)

        On the other hand, a realistic attractive women looking for help at a reasonable level so she can focus on school and a meaningful relationship, even if temporary, has a lot of options.

      • sweeetpaula says:

        But I am…. I highlight that because of the fact that men in the past on SA have said to me that “$1200 should be fine since you’re probably seeing numerous men anyway”
        But you’re telling me to not say that I’m only seeking one arrangement??
        I do not understand what is appealing and what is not anymore lol regardless, doesn’t change my desire to have an exclusive arrangement.

      • Anonymous says:

        Many women would rather let go of a reasonable allowance than to chase what Tumblr girls have been claiming to get…in their dreams at least.

    • Anonymous says:

      Most women take men’s “mentoriship” for granted as they take his money for granted.

      Most women believe that men are interested in them because of their vagina…and the hard, cold reality is they are correct.

  94. Cryptic anomaly says:

    @Elaine – yes I do like the SB to like me/ for there to be chemistry. Some SD’s might just want bedroom time and that’s fair enough if brothels etc are illegal where they live. I have that option so for me sugar is more about the girlfriend experience, having the best of both worlds so although I do want sex it’s not the only factor. I agree with you, to me it’s odd to be with someone I like and not touch them in some innocent/socially acceptable manner. I also feel given that the woman wants my money then a hug/kiss on the cheek in greeting and departure is a nice way to start the initial meeting. As Riviera said if females at work are comfortable being touchy feelie in the workplace than a SB should know that being warm and affectionate will go a longest for her unless the SD has stated he doesn’t want that for discretion reasons.

    • Cryptic anomaly says:

      The irony with the SB who walked off was that I really liked her and was going to break my golden rule about sugar on first meets and give her some cash because she made happy. She took off so coldly and somewhat quickly that even if I still wanted to I wouldn’t have the chance!

  95. rembodler says:

    @RU
    It seems you are wasting too much time on obvious rinsers. Your goal should be to quickly eliminate the rinser, block her if necessary and move on to the next POT. If she seems adamant about getting money for nothing, move on. Some girls just get the wrong information from blogs, tumblrs and, alas, SA itself.
    You can revisit her if you think that she is just being naive and took too close to heart tales from @Reb and such…

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      She didn’t have a princess or me, me, me profile:

      I am seeking an open minded gentleman for a mutually beneficial arrangement, I’m hoping to find Someone who’s company I can enjoy, no falseness , just fun , laughter & decent company.

      Open minded and decent? Anal and condom only? I am just kidding…

  96. Riviera Undercover says:

    “Well I’m open to what you have suggested but obviously intimacy would take time , so I hope you’d be prepared to get to know me on a good level first , but a per per meet arrangement would be good for me as I have a few goals I’d like to tick off so I would prefer a financial gift rather than designer goods so to speak , what was you thinking ? X” I would say 8/10 replies are like this…

    • Kore says:

      I wonder if they would turn down a 2k/meet offer over a handbag worth 5K? Think it’s too much work for them to log into ebay and resell? 😛

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      Another:
      “I want a mutually beneficial arrangement- companionship in exchange for maintenance.. What about yourself”
      “Potentially but not in the first instance, we would have to establish an arrangement.. How does that sound x”

    • Anonymous says:

      Returning to the store and getting cash or even a store credit would take care of her real fashion needs for the next year.

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      Lets see what happens:

      Well obviously the financial assistance would take time too whilst we get to know each other …

    • Anonymous says:

      Correct. Practice financially platonic relationship with her.

    • DontlikeSDterm says:

      Sometimes I don’t get this …

      In regular dating with someone 40 or over (assuming chemistry), I usually sleep with them on the 3rd or 4th date.

      In regular dating with someone 30-39 (assuming chemistry), I usually sleep with them on the 2nd or 3rd date.

      In regular dating with someone in their 20’s (assuming chemistry), I usually sleep with them on the 1st or 2nd date.

      So … in dating off this site, I actually expect less (since I don’t expect intimacy on the 1st date) …

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      The reply :

      I agree , but I mean obviously I am on a website like this for a reason , As are you , so I would not be willing to be continuously meeting you without something in return for my time and effort to come and keep you company I will be honest with you , and also I am not a call girl lol this is not what this website is for so I am not fond of the idea that you would expect intimacy straight away x

      My previous reply was “Well obviously the financial assistance would take time too whilst we get to know each other” . I don’t where she is reading intimacy straight away from…

      • Anonymous says:

        @RU
        My guess, she kinda stopped paying attention as soon as she realized she is not getting money for nothing. Whatever her reply was, is irrelevant. She aims to keep hitting till she hits a soft spot. She does not have much else to do anyway…

      • AnonymousSSSD says:

        Riviera…how long have you been on SA? Have you had an arrangement on here yet?

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        I have had two arrangements that both lasted over two years, I have also had a few short ones usually taking advantage of PPM for a period of time, like a local student who was relocating after her degree but joined SA with four months of her degree to go. I have had success on SA in 2006, and to a degree in 2012. Since reactivating in 2013, I have been off and on without success. But the game or field has changed…

      • Anonymous says:

        A less strident reply that conveyed the same message might have gone further.

        Remember that a lot of young women are a little uncomfortable with the site and the straight up monetization of sex.

        A response like – I like your idea of us taking some time to decide if a relationship is right for the two of us and I look forward to meeting you.

        is a softer way of conveying the same message.

        I think a lot of women just feel the need ( and properly so) to stake out some decision space… .. They may have no intention of deferring sex but they need the option.

        From what you related she may not have expected anything (other than perhaps some gas money and parking )

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        I think I joined SA in 2005 or 2006. After joining in 2006, I had arrangement that lasted from the beginning of 2006 until mid 2008. I had a normal relationship from late 2008 until 2012, and again during 2013 for 6 months. SA should be easier…

  97. Anonymous says:

    This woman I am communicating with has three photo. Main photos is in her early 20s…the second one is in her 30s, and the third is in her 40s. She claims to be 30.

  98. Anonymous says:

    @Attica

    “there is no shame in getting older. some people arent so lucky.”

    Now…this is prophetic. :)

    • SD says:

      Lying about age ? You have to if you want to access a certain age . i.e. I search ages 18 to 29. I realize I might miss an awesome 33 yr old ,but that’s the way it is . I lie because an SB might factor out all men over 50 ,so I put 49 to avoid that even though I am over 50 .

      Do I feel bad about it ? Not for a second . After all ,I am looking for a bed mate ,not a life partner .

      • Anonymous says:

        sa has no search limitation, so your argument is moot

      • @SD

        Ive also come across younger men who inflate their age so as to make the filter cut in the other direction. I dont suppose I see a big issue with it so long as there’s not a huge discrepancy, and attractive qualities are there.

  99. Pepper says:

    After reading all the comments regarding Vanessa in Arkansas got me thinking about age. I know most men seek out the average age 18-23 and white female. Im been lucky being AA being message by gentlemen of all races. How important is it if someone fudge on their age for someone who doesn’t look my age of 40 I’m always mistaken for early 30’s even 29 at one time. I”m fit Petite and HWP at 120 pounds. I would really like to post my real age 40 to see what response I would attract.

    • Anonymous says:

      Don’t you worry…when we see 29, we ass-u-me 35+ even 40+ anyway. Good luck… :)

      • Pepper says:

        Too fuuny. I feel like a cloud hanging over me. I was out on meet once with and he knew the bartender as they were talking he actually told his age being 50 and that didn’t bother me actually what I prefer anyway. But his profile said 46. Lol

      • Anonymous says:

        Sugar lesson no. #301. Don’t date a man who discusses his age with a bartender AFTER claiming that he knows them…

        OR better yet…

        Don’t make up stories just to try to make a point on a sugar blog.

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      Your friends may tell you that you look younger. When I read profiles that state I look younger and then compare with their photo’s, the first thoughts are usually what planet are you on? Are you delusional? Don’t be so foolish and vain!…

      • Anonymous says:

        In a culture in which guessing someone’s age at a lower number compared to their actual age is considered a polite thing to do…what else do you expect people to do?

        In a culture in which asking women’s age is a taboo…what else do you expect people to do?

      • MissLady says:

        That’s why it always works best if you let them tell you.

        As ONSD always says, under promise, over deliver.

    • Attica M says:

      i think it’s stupid to lie about your age if you are a SD or and SB. Age is nothing but a number to me and i honestly can hardly stand people a few years younger than myself.

      but thats just me. with age comes wisdom and proof that with how random and horrible the world can be with simple things that can kill you, you made it. somehow you made it. you dodge the random bullet, you survived the storm, you made the flight home. for another year, you live.

      • Attica M says:

        there is no shame in getting older. some people arent so lucky.

      • Anonymous says:

        “i honestly can hardly stand people a few years younger than myself.”

        Interesting approach to life indeed. 😉

      • Attica M says:

        thats why i am and not surprised of wants of someone younger if you are closer to 50. But i am not a man nor do i feel how they might feel when being around 18 year olds.

        i have a 21 year old roommate…i just can’t imagine wanting to pay to be around her. of course its mostly a power dynamic of a sexual nature but still.

      • Anonymous says:

        “i have a 21 year old roommate…i just can’t imagine wanting to pay to be around her.”

        ROTFLMAO…regardless of age most men don’t want to be with most women…UNLESS the pussy has the possibility of engagement at some point in near future.

      • Attica M says:

        I was under the impression SDs weren’t looking to get married(again).

        But i am young and dont know what it’s like to have dick so good i want to only have that dick.

      • Anonymous says:

        “engagement” as in getting used…NOT “engagement” as in ring.

        Female mind is a terrible thing…

      • Anonymous says:

        @Attica, truth be told, you are hot…and I would have liked to bang you if you were nearby…

        bang = engagement of the pussy. 😉

      • Attica M says:

        oh how lucky am i…

      • Anonymous says:

        Yes, you should feel lucky. :)

    • Pepper says:

      My point is was I really do want to let my real age show.

    • MissLady says:

      I’ve never been able to bring myself to fudge any numbers, but many (male and female) have come on here and said that they’ve done so (successfully/unsuccessfully), they even fudge on the pics.

      Why not stick with the truth?

    • Kore says:

      @Pepper Lying about these things comes across as insecure to me.

  100. Anonymous says:

    @Kore

    “I have to admit, I know which men I would sleep with or not in the first few seconds, based solely on looks and body language. The only time I will change my mind is if an attractive man has an unattractive personality. It doesn’t work the other way around though (irrevocable friend zoning).”

    Writing in code phrases again? Elaborate in 3+ paragraphs.

    • Kore says:

      ?? If you follow the conversation under which I’ve posted that, I don’t think much elaboration is required… But what should I elaborate on?

      • Kore says:

        She can do what she wants, but I imagined it’d be easier to meet anyone at a bar as opposed to at home, tending to parents and offspring.

    • Anonymous says:

      “The only time I will change my mind is if an attractive man has an unattractive personality.”

      Elaborate on this this as to how long it takes to go to “no sex for you”?

      and also this…

      “It doesn’t work the other way around though (irrevocable friend zoning).”

      As to what the heck it means anyway?

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        Surely it’s the same as a 10/10 being rude to retail or waiting staff, slowly the evilness come through …

      • Anonymous says:

        Most 10/10’s are not rude to waiting staff…they ARE retail or waitstaff somewhere.

      • Kore says:

        ” Elaborate on this this as to how long it takes to go to “no sex for you”? ”

        It depends on fast I can gather information – largely influenced by the setting. Then it’s just an elimination process. These are the general determiners:

        1) Do I find him physically attractive?
        2) Does he have a nice personality?
        3) Is he single?

        With the exception of sight, the order in which I receive other information can be anything. I am likely to find out how he smells around the same time I find out what his personality is like (during a personal conversation, for example).

        Some things will take me more or less time to figure out depending on the situation. At a bar, it will take less time than at a party (where I have other social obligations) to figure out if he’s single.

        “It doesn’t work the other way around though (irrevocable friend zoning).”

        If I don’t find him attractive, there is nothing he can do to change my mind. He might be gorgeous to other women, he might be a sweetheart, doesn’t matter.. I will politely and respectfully decline any advances. We could continue to have conversation or possibly develop a friendship if he doesn’t show blatant sexual interest in me, but if I don’t feel like having sex with him, there’s nothing he can do to change my mind. I won’t start finding him attractive at a later point in time.

        So when it comes just to finding a partner for sex, I can stop finding a handsome man attractive based on his other qualities, but I won’t start finding a non-handsome (to me) man attractive based on his other qualities.

      • Anonymous says:

        Thanks for your elaboration. I wanted to see if looks trumped personality or the other way around. 😉

      • Kore says:

        Sure.

        The indicators discussed on the blog recently are age and weight…

        Would it be superficial if a man didn’t want to date a 55 year old fat lady they met at a bar? Looks trump personality to start with, which I think is true for most.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        Not in the UK, there is a wannabe wag culture. They maybe lap dancers, but that boom is over. They probably hang out over at Tumblr..

      • Kore says:

        @Rivi I didn’t realize there was an acronym for it. Is it a major city thing? Paris is like this and I am sure Berlin as well if Hamburg is anything to go by..

        It’s obvious that some girls in these upper class clubs are looking for something..

      • Anonymous says:

        Instead of hanging out at bar, the 55 year-old fat lady should be tending to her aging parents or young grandkids, no?

      • Kore says:

        Also, I’m not evil.. I try to avoid people who are. 😛

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        WAGs (or Wags) is an acronym used to refer to wives and girlfriends of high-profile sportspersons. The term may also be used in the singular form, “WAG”, to refer to a specific female partner / life partner. Source – stolen from Wiki

        Thus a Wannabe Wag is a girl that wants to attract a sports star, millionaire, actor, or other famous celebrity as a partner. They usually become Z list celebrities themselves such as Abbey Clancy…

      • Kore says:

        I might add: Similar to what Jay mentioned earlier about SD pictures on SA. Personality is more impressive than the looks, so it’d be better to get to know that first (before seeing the person). It changes a lot, but this doesn’t happen that often in the real world.

      • Kore says:

        @Rivi I looked it up, but it can’t be everywhere in the country? How would you find a football player living the middle of nowhere?

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        Most just travel to the exclusive night clubs in London, or the nearest city like Manchester. Most of the girls I am following on IG are in exclusive London clubs a few times a month…

      • Well elaborated, Kore. I agree.

  101. Anonymous says:

    @IHF2030

    “Women seeking monetary gain should at least be constrained to show up on time for a meeting.”

    There is no logic involved in what women do when it comes to dealing with men in romantish situations. You just need to adopt to the pussy drama if you want any.

    • IHF2030 says:

      I have a 100% zero tolerance policy for dealing with women’s bullshit and nonsense. Sadly, there are far too many guys who are ass kissing suckers with no self-respect and they embolden women to behave badly.

      • Kore says:

        I have to agree with @IHF completely. Adapting to ‘pussy drama’ will just make them think that they can continue acting the way they do. Thing is, if you stop, they can still continue ‘being themselves’ with other men who are more tolerant/desperate.

  102. Anonymous says:

    Re: How to manage meetings…

    There are occasional unicorns out there but most women like to be treated like retarded children.

    1. Find out before-hand how far she lives (or where she will be right before the meeting) from the venue of the meeting.

    2. Assess how long it takes you to get to the venue.

    3. Tell her that you will text her right before leaving your place.

    4. Tell her that if you don’t hear from her right away, you will delay your departure.

    5. If she confirms the meeting when you text her, head toward the venue.

    6. Text her again x minutes before the meeting based on her response to #1.

    7. If she confirms that she has left for the venue…you go to the venue.

    8. If she tells you that she’s late…delay your arrival…9 times out of ten she would be late.

    9. If she does not respond, then go elsewhere instead of the venue…a place you can make productive use of your time…library, museum, grocery store, hardware store, cell phone store…whatever…EXCEPT the venue…

    10. If hanging out at the venue is pleasurable to you–whether she joins you or not–then there is no harm in hanging out there.

    11. 5-10 minutes before the meeting time text her to find out how far she is…more likely she is late before she’s lost…give her directions or landmarks to look for.

    12. Ask her to let you know when she’s outside. Enjoy whatever you are doing.

    13. If she makes it…then show up after her or receive her if you were already there.

    • Anonymous says:

      Most women will make it on time for business-/work-related meetings but time for social meets–especially meeting a man for romantish reasons–is a fluid phenomenon.

    • elaine says:

      Yep, this is exactly what you have to go through when you prefer to date retarded children… 😉

      • rembodler says:

        Elaine’s point here is that you are so much better off dating their grandmothers in dementia…

      • Anonymous says:

        Why of course the women in the 40s and 50s stop to act like retarded children. 😉

      • elaine says:

        @Rem
        Where did I mention he has to date grandmothers, grandpa?

        Get your specs and read what I wrote!

        If he complains that his dates act like retarded children, he should stop dating them.
        Or stop complaining about it.

        Is that too much logic to handle?

      • flyR says:

        I think socially retarded is the operable term ….

        Knowing her favorite tv program can be a pretty good predictor of her reliability.

    • Anonymous says:

      YES you do eliminate a lot of them through initial communication but it is very difficult to totally avoid them.

    • Sugar Kell says:

      Josh, why are you writing under anonymous now? Are you trying to come off like you aren’t on the boards and actually have a life now?

  103. Kore says:

    Public pictures showing face: A scammer told me that no real SD would show his face on SA. OTOH, one high income SD I asked directly told me that it didn’t bother him.

    The idea of revealing identity online ‘to just anyone’ has become alien to me over the years. I can’t relate as well with the more open SDs and was wondering what others’ views on this might be.

    I know I sometimes ask naiive questions, but I’m still relatively new and want a better feel for this. TY

    • Anonymous says:

      I used to show my face on SA… but then I removed my public and private photos…I bought a disposable credit card and started using it to pay for SA.

      The reasons are multifaceted.

      1. SA is going to get hit by an AM-like debacle, and everyone’s information would go on the public domain. So having a fake email, no photos and disposable credit card significantly reduces exposure.

      2. Tumblr girls cannot post, for eternity, screen shots of my profile with photos or communication with them along with the profile photo.

    • elaine says:

      None of my SDs showed their face on SA, and I think that makes a lot of sense!
      Too risky.
      Heck, I don’t even show MY own face for the same reason…
      Let go a well known, or easy traceable SD.

      The only ones who did show their pictures where unmarried, mostly young, or just not that very wealthy SDs.

      • Kore says:

        @Elaine I agree, but besides having less to lose, I feel like it says something about personality that I haven’t yet been able to ‘pinpoint.’ Are they just more open? Or do they feel brave enough to accept the consequences of Tumblr defamation? Maybe they’re so successful by their own right that it simply doesn’t concern them? Ican’t figure out if publicly open face pictures are shady or not..

      • elaine says:

        @Kore

        Anyone who has to lose something, being it a marriage or a reputation, will not want to be linked to, and show his/her face on, a site like SA..

    • IHF2030 says:

      I had a face picture posted when I first joined this site but never again.

      • Kore says:

        @IHF What happened?

      • IHF2030 says:

        A dumb bitch posted my picture and profile details on tumblr and branded me a “salt daddy” because I would not pay her 800$ for a first meeting. So, I removed my pictures.

      • Kore says:

        @IHF I wonder if SA could’ve battled this by creating their own salt platform. Maybe less would turn to tumblr and it would decrease public shaming to some degree.. People would think twice before posting if their SA profiles were linked?
        This way, SBs and SDs could know who to avoid instead of having their pictures posted elsewhere on the internet. :/

  104. Anonymous says:

    Comment on travel with SBs: I have traveled with my SB and had a great time. However, I would only travel after I knew them for several months. Spending a couple of hours at dinner and the hotel is waaaaay different from being with them 24/7. My latest SB and I just went away for our first weekend and we have been seeing each other for three years! Both of us had an amazing time.

  105. Cryptic says:

    He big deal about PDA? I’m affectionate and like to be so even with girlfriends so unless the SB is offering a hooker service where we never leave the room together then I’m going to want to hug, hold hands etc when we are out and about. The Pot SB I passed on said she’s not into PDA with anyone, fair enough but not my idea of a nice time where you don’t even hold hands.

    I agree with what Uboat said about feeling weird when he’s SB did want PDA. So I’m good enough to give you money and even fuck in private but not good enough for affection where people can see us.

    Each to their own but I would feel like I woulf be wasting my time and money without PDA.

    • kore says:

      Yes, kind of crap to be treated that way!

      The last SD I was with at a business party and he’d told me that he was asked many times where we’d met by his acquaintances. We didn’t show any particular PDA, but the age difference makes people wonder.

      I think these SBs worried about what people think of them have lost the game before it’s started. Unless the SD&SB look related (which might pass in certain situations), it’s clear that there is another reason for them being together.. It’d work more in the SB’s favor to look like a girlfriend and not an escort through PDA?

    • IHF2030 says:

      1.Don’t be ugly/unattractive.
      2.Don’t be any combination of asshole/bitch/cunt.
      3.Don’t do/say stupid shit that will piss me off.
      4.Do fuck like a porn star behind closed doors.

      As long as a sugarbaby provides me with the above I will happily forego hands holding and other nonsense.

    • elaine says:

      @ Cryptic

      Well, as long as SD is not married or for other reasons can’t expose any affection in public, I think it is a good test to know how much she really is into you, or she is only there for the money.
      I mean, how sexy is it to be with a woman that feels obviously ashamed, or even too disgusted, to show affection for you in public?

      I don’t understand how it is possible to NOT show affection for a person you enjoy sharing your time and body with? Isn’t this the big difference between escorts and SBs?
      But I personally would never be with someone I don’t find attractive, so I will not judge, but never understand women who do.

      I know some men here really don’t care about the SB being attracted to them, and honestly, I thought you were one of them.
      Nice to hear this other side of you :-)

      • Kore says:

        @Elaine I don’t care if it’s a SD or a regular boyfriend, PDA takes time with me. It would be unnatural for me to force myself to act differently from how I normally would.

      • elaine says:

        @ Kore

        Ok, but that all has to do with how you would describe PDA.
        You don’t have to jump his bones off in public!

        Body language shows your affection for him.
        The way you look at him, touching occasionally his hand, bending over to listen to him, maybe sharing a bite of your plate, etc

        It is not about “forcing” or acting “unnatural” because everybody has his own way of showing affection.

        What I meant is, there is a big difference between a girl who is just a little shy to show affection in public, or a girl that feels ashamed or is even disgusting the man she is out with.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        I have female colleagues and female subordinates who are touchy feely in the work place. If a 10/10 female graduate can sidle up to me thigh to thigh to look at something or just share the sugar pot in the kitchen, put their arm around me, or even had a few place their hands on my thighs then surely a potential SB or a SB new into the arrangement can show similar affection…

      • Anonymous says:

        @Riviera…so correct…those averse to PDA in sugar arrangements have NO respect for the SD and the SD’d better dump them pronto.

      • Kore says:

        @Elaine Yes, it’s easier for me to read it this way and I agree.

        @Rivi I like when the SD tells me if he likes PDA or not. One of the reasons I don’t show it from the start is because it hadn’t been discussed and I don’t know how he would react / what he finds acceptable in public or not.

        The feel with my first SD was very similar to that of a normal date – it was nice when he’d take my hand, share food with me, etc. With the second SD, we were at a party where his colleagues, friends and family were present. I wouldn’t have dared to take his hand in that situation.

        I just mirror their behaviour. Everything else is too risky. Besides, it gets clearer once you’re physically around them, and it’s not like I am closed to criticism. If they care, they’ll tell me what I can do better for future meets.

    • Attica M says:

      everyone asks to be discreet, so when PDA comes up, that’s interesting.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        I am single with nothing hide. Being seen in public with an attractive girl isn’t an issue, unless she has no class. Having my photo posted on Tumblr because I don’t find a 10K platonic arrangement reasonable? What do yo think?…

  106. Hello heels says:

    Hello everyone . I just had a date offer to uber me . He asked that I come up to his room so he could get ready . He was still dressed casual . He then said it was weird if I went in his room so I should go back down to the lobby . Where we had just left . Anyway he goes Inside and then texts me I’m older than my pics and don’t look like my pics and he’s not interested . I asked him to at least uber me home and he refused saying he already paid my way to meet him . Thankfully u we guy was still around but it cost me 65 to get home . He later said I could swing by some club to get the cab money ( an hour later he offered ) my pics I had just had taken . He treated me like
    Complete garbage . I’m just in shock .

    • Anonymous says:

      some men suck, what can i say ymmv

    • The Prophet says:

      So, he had something nefarious planned but developed a conscious.
      After sipping a few drinks, he would have no problems with the aforementioned problem, to slip something into your drink,
      The offer to come to his room should have been a red flag.

      • Hello heels says:

        He was not dressed for dinner , wearing casual bum clothes. I wouldn’t say he was all the special looking .

      • kore says:

        @Hello Do you think you look obviously younger in your pictures?

        His behaviour was ungentlemanly if you’d agreed to intimacy on the first night. I could understand that you pay your own way home if it was just for a first meet.

      • kore says:

        By behaviour, I mean just that he initially didn’t want to pay your ride home. If it were you in his position, you’d feel, probably, that you had the same right not to be forced to pay for something you didn’t ‘order.’

    • Cryptic says:

      Insubordination he just really didn’t like you and wasn’t willing to pretend by going through with the date like a lot of guys would?

      • Hello heels says:

        I was fine with it but , just uber me back home and not do me dirty . I’m cute enough to get modeling jobs with no problem . Never been dogged like this .

      • kore says:

        I’m sure you’re cute, but it has nothing to do with this. In the future, just take more measures into avoiding repeating this:

        By having a video chat. By having an escape route in case things go wrong. By making sure you look at less expensive rides back home before leaving. Etc…

        I don’t understand your complaint… Do you expect us all to say he was an asshole just because no one was careful enough to plan your ride back home?

      • Anonymous says:

        I completely agree with Kore. I have had numerous dates where the photos were photoshopped and/or years old. But yes, this is why I prefer a quick first meeting over drinks, rather than a full out dinner or night out. I plan my escape route, you should plan yours.

      • elaine says:

        A short video chat before seriously lowers this risk on both sides.

        it doesn’t eliminate the possible lack of chemistry or attraction in real, but at least it checkes the reality of the looks dept.

    • Anonymous says:

      There are creeps on both sides. Yesterday I got stood up by a POT. She got close to our coffee date . . . and then silence. A few texts from me . . . unanswered. I sat at the coffee shop for 30 mins wondering. Finally, after letting her have it in texts, she replies, “My best friend called me and just broke up with her bf and it was more important that I talk to her.” I’m glad I didn’t get any further with her.

      • AnonymousSSSD says:

        That was a bs excuse.

      • Anonymous says:

        Re: How to manage meetings…

        There are occasional unicorns out there but most women like to be treated like retarded children.

        1. Find out before-hand how far she lives (or where she will be right before the meeting) from the venue of the meeting.

        2. Assess how long it takes you to get to the venue.

        3. Tell her that you will text her right before leaving your place.

        4. Tell her that if you don’t hear from her right away, you will delay your departure.

        5. If she confirms the meeting when you text her, head toward the venue.

        6. Text her again x minutes before the meeting based on her response to #1.

        7. If she confirms that she has left for the venue…you go to the venue.

        8. If she tells you that she’s late…delay your arrival…9 times out of ten she would be late.

        9. If she does not respond, then go elsewhere instead of the venue…a place you can make productive use of your time…library, museum, grocery store, hardware store, cell phone store…whatever…EXCEPT the venue…

        10. If hanging out at the venue is pleasurable to you–whether she joins you or not–then there is no harm in hanging out there.

        11. 5-10 minutes before the meeting time text her to find out how far she is…more likely she is late before she’s lost…give her directions or landmarks to look for.

        12. Ask her to let you know when she’s outside. Enjoy whatever you are doing.

        13. If she makes it…then show up after her or receive her if you were already there.

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        My Gran/Mother has just been rushed to hospital is my favourite…

      • IHF2030 says:

        Women seeking monetary gain should at least be constrained to show up on time for a meeting.

      • Anonymous says:

        Sister/cousin/friend having a baby is another oft-repeated one for me. Better than her being rushed to the deliver room though. LOL!!!

    • AnonymousSSSD says:

      @heels…as a sd I’ve had this happen before. The sb has shown up and not looked like her pics or they’re dressed inappropriately or more often then not, was quite a bit larger than her pics eluded to. Some of you ladies are very adept at taking selfies that hide your busy flaws. You might want to review your pics to make sure they accurately show the real you. Flaws and all.

      Sorry to hear he treated you so poorly though. That is unacceptable and take it as a lesson learned that you need to do a better job vetting your pot sd’s. Good luck!

    • ScroogeMcF*ck says:

      We have all been stood up or lost money, and lied to. I was in an arrangement for four months, I had booked a five star hotel and had the Cristal on ice. She answered a text saying her Mum was in hospital. So I called her Mum, and she was fine and the girl was in the living room. She said she meant her other Mother i.e. step mom. I said I called her and she said you were here. She asked how did I get the number’s? You constantly use my phone I stated. Then she said it was over as I was spying on her, that gave me a little chuckle as it ended the moment she lied to me 😉

      • SexyRockstar says:

        Uhhh, that’s creepy as hell.
        Not her lying to you….
        … you being a freakn creeper.

      • ScroogeMcF*ck says:

        Glad I got your approval after easily losing $1k and just using my own phone. But McF*ck you :-)

      • SexyRockstar says:

        How did you lose a grand?

        Calling someone that you don’t know, is creepy. If some random person called me, asking about my life, I’d feel violated.

        Yeah, she lied to you, probably texting another POT,or found you annoying and went on Facebook. She was trying to spare your feelings.

        Glad to see some entitlement can come from SDs as well

      • SexyRockstar says:

        So go McCheck yourself before you McWreck yourself
        ✌✌✌

    • SexyRockstar says:

      Um… really?
      Hahaha GIRL
      This is flat out saftey 101.
      Uber you? Guess what, he knows where you live now. Even if it’s not your exact address, he knows about where you live.

      Why on earth didn’t YOU make sure you were able to get to and from the date? If you can’t afford the uber, let him know, and ask if he could come out closer to you. Most men will.

      And no, he has zero reason to get you home. Rich or not, for an expensive car ride for a girl he has zero interest in….hmmm… stop reading Tumblr.

      If a SD wants you, he may gift you on the first date…. never ask for things….be confused on why

  107. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Anonymous

    OK, so you were a pen pal with no financial support. What exactly is wrong with that?

  108. Another Anonymous says:

    When I said vast majority, I was actually thinking about you as the only exception.

  109. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Hollywood

    Ad a very strong distaste at working for free

    Actually Kore is probably right, the guys are well aware, that to go to their closet you would very literally have to get through their bedroom. But let us say it is not the case, still why such a distaste to show what you do so well. Had you been a pianist, would you refuse to play to your potSD unless he pays your usual concert fee? SDs are asked for mentorship, advice and other help and obviously do not think about their usual going rate. I personally would welcome if a potSB wants to talk about my area of expertise and would not consider it working for free.

  110. Another Anonymous says:

    @ Jay and Rem

    Respect is one of the words with many meanings. But at least for this page Rem is right. A guy whose disposable income allows him to pay an allowance of $ 300 a month will be ridiculed by vast majority of SBs, even if he is the nicest guy on the planet and treats everybody with utmost respect.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      I have never condoned ridiculing someone for what they can offer. I’m usually one of the first to speak out against it on the blog. $300 a month might mean nothing to one person and mean the world to another. If it’s not for you then just move on same thing goes for the SDs whining about the moderate and up girls. They have a right to ask for whatever they want if it’s not worth it to you then just move on.

    • Anonymous says:

      While the same goes for old, unattarctive sbs here. Where are you getting at?

  111. Anonymous says:

    I loved my SD and I literally mean that. I would have done him in a public parking lot, my drive way, his car in my driveway, at my door, on the couch, on the kitchen counter, good Lord, you name it. Nothing was off limits. Why? because he was good to me when he was mine. He had a lot of women, this I know. But, when he was mine… I gave him everything he wanted (knowing I was sharing him then).

    There is a difference from knowing you a SB and then realizing he has graduated to escorts and you are now a side piece of the wife, the escort and then the stripper from his last business trip. You can always see the signs. The difference is when you realize it really is all a game and either you separate yourself or you become just life him. That to me, is where many women find the realm of the “missing branches from the family tree” and branch out for themselves. Realizing, they placed their faith on someone that couldn’t hold their weight once they got on the branch and tried to untie the kite wrapped amongst the branches and leaves….Doesn’t it seem that when it all unravels and it isn’t done with truth, that’s when it all dies……..

    I chose the walk away option and roll my eyes version than giving a shit this time. I am 4 years into it, going on 5. Mother
    fucker if your listening… I finally realize I was played at year 2.

  112. PrettyLittleBeggars says:

    lots of young girls saying how busy and important their time and lives are looking for suckers to just shower them with money for nothing.. god bless their REAL dads for finally cutting them off.

    • flyR says:

      It amuses me how many My time is valuable SB’s spend so much time with their nose in their texting and searching , have watched 15 hours of garbage TV this week and confuse wearing the T shirt with making a difference

      • Anonymous says:

        @ Flyer

        I am normally for you. But after being a pen pal for 2 years to a man who bedded many women while I was his “pen pal” with no financial support and was played a-fool in the process of thinking “one again, people have a “heart” in this life. You can take your “tried and true” contributions and as Josh used to say, in a round about manner and “shove it where the sun doesn’t shine.” You no longer speak for all of us.

      • Anonymous says:

        It amuses me that you are still spouting this demure position. Give it up. We all know you are the pen pal and behind closed doors or avenue of escape or the freak at the party. Give it a rest.

      • flyR says:

        I think you are confusing my disdain for “my time is valuable” statements and attitudes with my concern that way too many SB’s fail to appreciate and market what is special about them beyond just having sex.

        I’m sorry if you ( whomever anon is ) have trouble with the difference.

      • No, no…not shove it where the sun doesnt shine!

        It’s…

        [Take a nice firm dildo, and fuck yourself silly.]

        -classic yet controversial advice from the poster formally known as Josh

        Mightve been a purple dildo. Cant remember.

      • elaine says:

        It was purple @YGTTANFPD

    • Anonymous says:

      Last 2 comments were at Flyer.

      I would rather know a man wants ex and has no inhibitions and be raw and honest with me, cordial, candid, frank in his demeanor and in lack of all other verbiage: “True and honest” in his dealings with me.

      Than a saber tooth, slick, 2 forked tongue devil on anagrams, much less any other English derivative of something I have to decipher, other than the truth.

  113. Anonymous says:

    The unfortunate “sad fact” is. If you guys TRULY “WANTED” a girlfriend experience, per say, you would not be feeling that the female left you with a transactional moment of affliction. Lets be for real here.

    Jay and Sugar Kell said it very clearly *in my take on the circumstance*

    My kitty cat really purrs. Do you want to know why? He sends me flowers to my job without me asking and unexpected. Why? Because as a SB I TRUST him and he “delivers.” without me having to voice my affection for him (even though I do on a constant basis, he just knows what will make me purr as a female smitten by his affections to me in the interim of us seeing each other regularly.

    He knows I want him for more than his tax returns. He realizes that I WANT his SEX, his intoxication of perspiring before his hands even cusp my beasts or thigh in his hands. He knows that no matter the situation that he turns me on by being an intricate part of my life whether I see him weekly or once a month. And when he calls me “his”, I do not question, I do not raise a fuss. I say: “Yes, I am Daddy.” and nuzzle my face into his neck to smell his natural pheromones.

    Why? Because I know I have not given myself to anyone else and wont. that is until the day he asks me to or until the day that he tells me he is voyer and that he wants to watch. But, if he is the one providing the trips and excitement. I will share with him my excitement and find a common ground on what suits us both. I certainly will not disrespect him and trail off in the wild blue yonder unless he tells me not to contact him again and that he does not want me. After that moment, the whole playing field is fair game and lets hope he took Viagra and a sedative as a whole once he realizes what he could have had. Heart, mind, body and soul. Then again, doesn’t a voyeur just “get off” on all of the above? I don’t even know, so that shows “greensim.” And I am no longer embarrassed for it as I once was. # finallynomoreshame.

  114. SexyRockstar says:

    @hollywoodstyle
    A comic from Chicago?
    Hmmm, Laugh Factory wasn’t booking you so you moved to LA?.

    I did a few showcases in LA, and laughed at every ‘comic’ I saw at an open mic…. because they would bomb at every place in Chicago.

    LA daddies could be good for you as mentors, assuming you’re actually talented.

    • THEATLSD says:

      And out of left field comes our favorite blonde.
      I was thinking about you when Hollywood said she does stand up.

      • SexyRockstar says:

        I seriously work non stop, comedy is keeping me busy. Lotttssss of travel

        And drummer and I are still together.

        I’m no longer blonde…. But Lita Ford will always be my gravatar

    • Anonymous says:

      Hollywood thinks that she’s funny. She does not make money with comedy.

  115. rembodler says:

    I hate to break the news to the SBs..but the SDs are “paying customers”. SBs are not.
    SB can vote with either being here or not. SD can vote with his money. And –
    “Money makes the world go around (c)”.

    Sorry, I did not come up with that on my own accord…

    • Anonymous says:

      And guess how many ‘stores’ won’t let you shop when you start to make the rounds of the blacklist for being salt, small cock, entitled, cheap or any assortment of sins. But since you have the money, brothels are still available to you

    • Jaybird923 says:

      That’s officially the second dumbest thing I’ve seen you post. What the fuck does being a paying customer have to do with showing some one you’re involved enough respect not to discuss them in that fashion on a public forum? If you’re referring to something else than disregard

    • MissLady says:

      LOL @Rem, only you could come up with something like that

      No words….

      • Anonymous says:

        @ Remmy

        This response to it is “NOT OK.” to out a Sugar Daddy.

        However and with all due respect, lets all please keep in mind that whether you choose to admit this or not. Along with, whether SB’s choose to admit this or not…If you do not treat the other party with the un-spoken “golden rule” or the “we work for a union and are protected” effect. That in all reality @ Dear Remmy,

        no one will come running to your aid nor hers if you had and showed no respect for the sexual companion while you were engaged in courtship. Whether you call that “panties hitting the floor Monday” or waiting until “Sunday.”

        The way you treated her and set the time (even if she couldn’t because she was un=informed, naïve, or a newbie,”) Doesn’t matter in my eyes.

        I am not one of the women out here trying to “snow, get-over or ruin SD’s”…So, my perspective will always remain the same. If you saw that she was unfamiliar with the territory and was “faking the funk” or “faking it till she made it” and you were the semi-elder or elder in the situation..sometimes a little unspoken guidance goes a long way.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        He is called Rem or Rembodler. Remmy is reserved for one person
        :-))

    • rembodler says:

      No, I totally understand.
      The only respectful thing a SD can do is to pay 10k for a platonic arrangement and be happy he got that. If he he complains – he is…ehhh. what was that…ok, I quote “salt, small cock, entitled, cheap or any assortment of sins”.
      What goes around, comes around.

      • rembodler says:

        And if my memory serves me well…and I have an excellent memory.
        I clearly remember an SB “outing” an SD a few blogs ago. All SBs comments were to do with how to “out” him better, more efficiently. NOT a SINGLE SB said “That is not OK”.
        Puhaleeze….

      • Jaybird923 says:

        My your full of cliches tonight. What will you say next “The grass is always greener on the other side”

        You’re the only one bringing up money. We’re talking about respect. Whether it’s a traditional relationship or sugar money doesn’t negate respect and common decency

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Remmy What blog was this?

      • rembodler says:

        Jay…please…respect not connected to $$$? We are talking “women” right?
        If a man (in his 40s) is not making money, he gets no respect. Maybe lip service, but no real respect. If you are “broke”, you are nothing. Please, do not make me laugh so hard… This is SA and this is USA. SA is about money. If you want a broke, but honest and decent man you are in a very wrong place.
        All we respect, is someone’s ability to make money.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Remmy That’s really sad if you believe that the amount of respect you deserve directly correlates to how much money you have. But everyone is entitled to believe what they want. I can see no point in debating it. All I’ll say is that your truth isn’t everyone else’s truth…

      • Anonymous says:

        Allow me to enlighten you all. I am not “sitting pretty.” Regardless if the man I was seeing was worth a million or 5 million or worth 100K. The point I was trying to make was; I loved him, and I threw everything else out the window for four years after realizing I was the utter fool for being in love. Say what you want. I lived it. I lived it as a fool who was in love with a rich man who made the news and progressed in life while I was his fool. So when women today speak of “speaking up for themselves” or they are “worth it.” They deserve every penny, c-note, or 100k that they can receive. Why? Because if they do not value themselves and stand up for themselves with confidence, no one else will.

        So you can continue to down grade and de-grade all the women of this blog and every other SA or Brandon “held” site that exsists to your own avail. He provides the means of communication and you provide the substance or you provide the lack there of. The only difference is, he does not take 50% of the proceedes from the women like the bunny Ranch or the Love Ranch does as a “pimp” and in reality, if you were smart enough, you would be able to write the sugar contributions off in your taxes. If your not, I don’t feel sorry for you. But, the fact that you guys sit here and be-little women down to $50.00 in gas money as your contribution should have you drug out on the lawn in public humiliation of your lack of candor and consideration and aptitude of cognizance. If you cannot educate, proliferate in rapid consumption the SB’s to SD’s, then you are of no value than a mere just graduated, pre-cum educated man-boy with no history under his belt. yet, he is a mad-dog with his penis and serves no long term value or investment opportunity until: HE CAN “PROVE HIS WORTH.”

      • The Prophet says:

        @ anonymous
        But you’re doing the same thing towards the other gender.

        I had an absolutely horrible experience with ‘The One’, but I don’t hate all women for it.

    • Anonymous says:

      So stupid from your part. If you did not agree with it you would not have posted it, even if you didn’t make that up on your own. It comes off as entitlement and you make it seem as only sds are contributing in this mutually beneficial arrangement, apparently all sbs do is take their money and not give anything in return.

  116. Chris says:

    Conversations with young SD/ Not interested- goes by NICK & married_looking04 32, Castleton Indiana. He may be able to trick others, because he’s in my area I found him again. Should you be reported for having more than 1 “identity?”

    • Anonymous says:

      outing people is not appreciated here….go away

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Translation …outing SDs is not appreciated here. There was a guy outting an SB here last week and no one said anything.

      • Anonymous says:

        I didnt see that, i was saying, outing period is no good, unless I am wrong, in which case. lets out away

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I agree we shouldn’t be doing it because it’s not fair. The other person doesn’t know and can’t defend themselves.

      • Sugar Kell says:

        @Jay: Any mention of a SD and you’re shooed from the comments and told to go to Tumblr. Constant ragging on sugar babies and linking profiles? Totally fine!
        These comments are turning into Tumblr, but just with a bunch of grown men bashing women. Guys, you’re not different than the Tumblr girls, so get off your high horse.

      • Anonymous says:

        Sugarkell your argument makes no sense, as a sd why would I care if you out other sd’s? less competition out there for me, but like jay said, it isnt fair on either side

      • Anonymous says:

        A Catch 22. (As long as this post is not deleted since my band-nation of SA bloggism)

        If you out SB’s and no one says anything.. then you know why SB’s hit the news and “cash in” on their short lived moments of stardom. I disagree with it as a whole. Does a SB honestly think that by screwing up they mouth off: “that feeds her”, again, that is ONLY IF her being fed is meet. Would it not actually fair to say, in comparison, to outing the one that is “making her” in the process of his own growth. (???)

        Again, take many considerable factors into calculation here. Do you think that he will allow you to pass by as a nuance and a thorn in his side if he has enough money and power to squash you like a bug? Seriously, think for a second.

        Does he really care about you and your well being? Does he do just enough for you to “get by” and “make ends meet” while he lives in a XXX million dollar home and you barely survive? Does he do just enough? or does he treat you as the age old “Courtesan?” If he does not meet your “courtesan” expectations, then have a sit down and find out why.

        Have a “come to Jesus meeting” with yourself and realize that you can either $100 dollar it to the bank, at a time, with hand jobs until you can afford to look like the women he “hunts” for in the bars. You know, the ones that will step on his neck in their stilettos and downgrade him and talk to him like a minuscule person in society (b/c you know that is what gets him off).

        You work yourself accordingly in order to reach that pivotal point (within yourself) where other clients are assisting you along the way. Or, you just stay where you are in life and hope “HE” remembers you and cares enough about you to throw you a bone every once in a while, you know, when he feels “sorry for you.”

        Or, you can become that woman on your own accord and declare that you are worth everything that you seek and just like the men here on the blog, salutation “next” when a man does not adhere to your standards. Then, market yourself as a brand that will gain recognition alone by how you treat your clientele and call them with your eyes once in their presence because your sexual confidence and body are on point after focusing on you (after all these years) and no longer on your surroundings.

        Once you gain “self-evaluation” that turns into “self-seduction” and peers linger too long in your presence and the SA media here on the blog no longer has any relevance on your life when you step out into the sunlight of FREEDOM…Then, you are for sure a golden child that again lays golden eggs mid-day because you realized you were sexier than the Nevada Love Ranch bunnies and were just so clueless because you were so darn innocent, you didn’t know any better. Then my dears, you are free to roam the prairie and city plains and even the most egotistical men will succumb to you or dismiss you instantly. Why? They either realize you “know yourself” or you are “true to yourself” and not willing to bend for their bullshiyt.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Suger Kell I agree with you. I can’t imagine logging onto a blog and discussing anyone that I was intimately involved with, with the level of disrespect displayed below even if I am anonymous.

        What happens between two people should stay between those two people. Not one “SD” called him out on it. If a SB logged on and talked about how bad in bed her SD is or how small his penis was they all would jump on her for it.

        They talk about wanting a SB who cares and shows affection but if you’re lurking on the blog reading those comments why would you believe that any SD you get involved with would see you as anything other than a sex object to discuss in the most degrading terms. And if that’s how you believe you’ll be treated why would you be open to caring about someone who doesn’t care about you nor respect you.

      • Anonymous says:

        SugarKell said it best this is turning into the male version of tumblr…full of delusional SD’s

        SB profiles have been drug through the mud, portions quoted and even the entire profile, but the MINUTE something is said about an SD, be it salt, him being a John or like the post above, then the PC SD crowd wants to come forth all the while saying nothing about the SB’s because “I didn’t see it” or the SB’s don’t ‘respect’ the SD’s around here

      • MissLady says:

        @Jay, and then want to look baffled by the level of SB’s that are treating them like a transaction…

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Lady Treating them like transactions is probably the only way for them to make it through some of these “arrangements” intact. I truly believe that some of these men are only here to see how many degrading or humiliating acts they can get a SB to do because they are in need and can’t say no.

        It’s not all the guys. There are some good men on here but when none Of the good men speak up you all get lumped together and only one perspective is heard.

      • MissLady says:

        But Jay, I thought generalizations were allowed, we don’t make distinctions…..

      • Anonymous says:

        ever since the invention of currency, those with it have been spending it to see what they can get people to do, it is called entertainment

      • Anonymous says:

        And those with a pussy have been doing the same to men, it’ called entertainment.

      • Chris says:

        Asked for assistance. There was no calculating or “outing” even considered while posting the question. reported. done and done.
        No outing, but name calling “Whores” brow beating, bashing and the like are condoned. hostile—-PrettyLittleBeggars says:
        October 17, 2015 at 6:32 glad someone is fucking on here—–maybe, this room is lousy with attitude

  117. IHF2030 says:

    Curious, what is the big deal with pda?

    • rembodler says:

      An uncorrected PDA may lead to congestive heart failure with increasing age (Wikipedia).

    • Anonymous says:

      The issue with PDA is the SB’s don’t want people to know they are f**king the old guy they are at dinner with. They would rather people think it is a father/uncle/professor/etc.

      • IHF2030 says:

        I still don’t understand why pda are a big deal for sugardaddies.

      • Anonymous says:

        @IHF what’s the benefit of having a hot chick on your arm if no one believes that she’s there cause she wants you? PDA would at least make the SD not feel like a walking ATM and he can play like he got her cause of his ‘charm’ alone….

      • Anonymous says:

        I don’t care for pda. However if she actively resists then she’s gone. Can’t allow such disrespect. Sorry.

      • noname says:

        i went for a meet and greet with a lady she wanted to be discreet which is fine with me but then she wanted me to pretend to be her professorif we met anyone she knew i never asked her out again if a lady can’t show public display of affection or wants me to be someone im not its next time

      • Anonymous says:

        I make it aware to the sb upfront that i require head in the car on the way to dinner

      • IHF2030 says:

        Some of you cats crack me up, I must say.

      • PrettyLittleBeggars says:

        if she doesn’t want any PDA then make here wear a buttplug when you go out.. PDA is a way for a guy to feel like the woman is ‘his’ in a good way. IF she doesn’t want the good way, then have it the bad way since knowing you are wearing that in your rump the whole night is another way for a guy to feel like the woman is ‘his’ but more privately like she wishes..

      • IHF2030 says:

        Sheesh, next, some of you cats will be complaining because sugarbabies don’t want to kiss, either.

    • noname says:

      ihf2030 its not a big deal some will some won’t if your getting what you want out of a arrangement then its not important unless thats what you want then it is important

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Just one comment on the PDA Thing. Everyone has different upbringings and come from different cultures and backgrounds. I don’t do PDA not because I’m ashamed of the person I’m with or because I don’t genuinely like them. It makes me uncomfortable. Culturally public physical contact is limited to a handshake for men or a kiss on the check in greeting for women.

      Now that being said as much as I hate walking around holding hands I do it. It’s my compromise. While culturally it’s not the norm for me, for him it is. It’s a small sacrifice on my part to make him happy. You just have to pick your battles. Is something that simple worth losing or hurting someone you care about?

      • PrettyLittleBeggars says:

        you are probably wearing mittens in the summer with those cold ice hands.. jeez

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Haha no Sir PDA is different for everyone I don’t feel comfortable kissing,holding hands,etc. But I am affectionate and have no issues with touching. If I’m into you I can’t keep my hands off you. Whether it’s running my fingers through your hair or brushing imaginary lint off your clothes.

      • PrettyLittleBeggars says:

        Are your really that aware of everyone’s attention towards your public affection? What about if he picked you up in a convertible Maserati.. would you give him a hummer while other drivers can see?? Is that under the no-PDA clause?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Where did I say it had anything to do with other people? I clearly say it has to do with my upbringing and the fact that it makes me uncomfortable.

        And no I’m not blowing any one in a convertible Maserati,nor in a benz, not in a toyota corolla, or a ford focus, not in a Lamborghini, or a fiat, a pinto, a Bentley, Rolls Royce, a Grimlin, an El Camino….

      • Anonymous says:

        and not for green eggs and ham

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Anonymous You got the reference lol I didn’t think his comment warranted the extra effort to actually make it rhyme. I considered it though :-))

      • Anonymous says:

        I enjoyed it, and i have a child, so thats what it reminded me of

  118. Anonymous says:

    @HollywoodStyle

    I doubt that you come here for advice. You just wanted to post “look at me…ain’t I awesome” type of posts and you managed to write them in the guise of seeking advice.

    • HollywoodStyle says:

      I’m sorry you feel that way. But I don’t need to come here and open myself up to the very insult you’re attempting just to make people think I’m awesome. I have a profile and photos that men can use to decide that for themselves. This is an actual issue that I attempted to dress up humorously, but I am actually asking for advice on. If you have none to offer, I don’t quite see the point of dismissing the question and me–as a “self-centered idiot” altogether, but, it’s not my first day on the Internet, I know how people like to troll.

      • flyR says:

        Hollywood Style

        There’s a story, probably not true but illustrative nonetheless.

        Hollywood agent Herbie and household name producer are walking through the Polo Lounge as Herbie is trying to hard sell his his client’s services claiming there is a competing offer from another studio. The producer stops him mid-sentence with , “Herbie, I know you are lying” To which Herbie replies without missing a beat “Perhaps , but hear me out”

      • flyR says:

        I’ m a little older that your probable target SD and a lot less Hollywoodish but I still think you are hurting yourself without a more mainstream photo.

        My guess is that you are a lot classier and a lot sexier than your lead photo.

    • HollywoodStyle says:

      @flyR I understand and I responded to your comment saying that I would work on my photos. I don’t know what you mean by “mainstream,” my photos are simply slice of life, mostly selfies that I take before heading out. And I change my main photo very often. I changed it today.

      That said, my target SD is older than you may think.

  119. Anonymous says:

    I get a kick out of financially struggling women who come here and try to teach men “class”.

    • AnonymousSSSD says:

      Class has absolutely nothing to do with finances. It has everything to do with how you conduct yourself and treat others.

    • Anonymous says:

      Two different realms. These women try to teach the kind of “class” which involves spending ton of money on them.

  120. AmIReal says:

    After a good date, was asked “how do I know you are real?” Meaning, I am supposed to sling cash to “prove” myself. Of course, it was “too soon” for overnights. There’s got to be a better way for everyone to know the score. I want all of my monthly fee money back from SA. I see the “no money until the panties hit the ground” in the blog but I mean, who “goes first” without stirring up bad blood? How do you put it into practice?

    • Anonymous says:

      SBs,

      If you only “trust” a man after getting the money then you are acting like a whore. A non-whore would do a better job with screening so when she is ready to hop in the bed with a man, she already trusts him with the flash of cash.

      The man CANNOT do anything about the fact that you are acting like a whore. If he “proves” that he is serious by giving you the money upfront, you are no better or worse than a whore. All you have done through the sugar process is to qualify him a bit more than the other client-generating sources.

      There’s NOTHING wrong with being a money-for-pussy “whore”…most women in the world are whores…but the patriarchy has given them different names to keep them engaged in the put-out, child-bearing and child-rearing arenas.

      • Anonymous says:

        blah, blah, blah…..The money-for-pussy “whore” is called a wife and the men are still supposed to be bowed down to. Just like, if I let the man manipulate my mind and become a “yes , sir, whatever you say sir.. to the man…He loses respect for me and everything that makes me unique to him to begin with and become like the next “whore.” wow… such same boring old cliché’s and common sense non-sense you all write on a daily basis. Bring the sexy girl back before the day’s of Josh. What was her name? oh yeah… Bring Sugary Spicy back. Does anyone know how to do that? Or did her pimp go limp? And he couldn’t revive her back to life because her Pirate went down in a ship wreck. Too bad to hear. You might actually gain readers again. Until then, we all sail the seven seas and it certainly isn’t here anymore. See ya.

      • Anonymous says:

        Well…that was a stupid post.
        As far as the first poster’s question, I would say that you discuss an allowance upfront and when you decide to start an arrangement from that point, and probably go somewhere to spend some alone time, that would be a good time to give the allowance to the sb. That is how I usually do in the first month, and then on the other months, if I may not be able to see here, I might just pop it into her bank or something.

    • Anonymous says:

      *WITHOUT the flash of cash.

    • AnonymousSSSD says:

      I would have answered…”you’ll just have to trust me. If that doesn’t work for you, then I wish you well and will leave you to continue your search.”

      If she likes you & is serious about making it work then she’ll accept it. If she’s insistent on cash then she’s not the one you want. Never give money to show you’re serious and never ever Chase women. It just enables their bad behavior.

    • THEATLSD says:

      When that question comes up just give a big smile and a little chuckle and say “you’re a funny girl” and change subjects.

  121. Anonymous says:

    Why are people being so generous with the advice to self-centered idiots?

  122. HollywoodStyle says:

    I have a bit of a weird question that requires advice. After my last very short-lived SD ended things with me over his offense at a joke I told (I’m a budding comedian, but they can’t all be winners), I’ve gotten into this weird string of contacts where I set up a date with a POT, we get to talking, I mention my career as a personal stylist, and, all of a sudden, they switch up to “well, how about instead of dinner/drinks/coffee, you come over and critique my closet?” No joke, this has happened to me about five or six times.

    So, I try not to mince words but leave the door open for possibly helping them out in the future. “You’re always welcome to hire me!” Or something of that nature. But steer back to the, you know, actual date and not just me working for free in exchange for, I guess, company. Because, make no mistake, they never actually offer to pay my working rate. They want the date to be “going through their closet” with the occasional offer of wine. And when I do turn down that idea because, no, I will not work for free, they disappear or, in the case of one, pretend to hold to the plans and then stand me up. What the hell should I do?

    • Riviera Undercover says:

      Tell them you’re a hooker…

    • Anonymous says:

      You’re an idiot.

    • Kore13 says:

      Don’t make the, ‘hire me,’ joke. Just say you’ve heard that one before.

      • HollywoodStyle says:

        @Jaybird, so much snark! I didn’t say I would continue doing it, I’m explaining why I haven’t done it, yet. I’m hesitant to change my behavior to appease people who aren’t satisfied with how I am, but that seems to be the name of the game, here. I’m simply looking at how to address this situation, not necessarily prevent it. Turn a negative into a positive, really. But, thanks for all your help. I’ve taken it into consideration.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        I’m not telling you to not talk about your work. Talk about until you’re blue in the face After you get to the first meet. It has nothing to do with appeasing others. it’s about doing what’s going to get you the results you want.

      • MissLady says:

        But also keep in mind that talking about it during the ENTIRE date because you just love it so will make the date seem all about you and that’s not the impression you want to give….

    • Jaybird923 says:

      There’s a very simple solution. When I tell you what it is you’ll wonder why you didn’t think of it. Here it is. Ready? Don’t tell them you’re a personal stylist. Hope this helps. No need to thank me…

      • Riviera Undercover says:

        That’s what I said :-)

      • Kore13 says:

        I thought about that first as well, but i thought it’d be nicer to tell someone your profession than not.
        ‘I’m employed but don’t want to talk about it,’ comes across as fishy from the SB, i think.. Or does this matter to the SD?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        No need to tell them you don’t want to talk about it. Just keep it general. Just like a smart POT SD will tell you he works in the banking industry but he won’t tell you he’s the VP Of JP Morgan until after some trust and rapport has been established.

      • Kore13 says:

        Yes, works with some tact..

      • HollywoodStyle says:

        Not talking about my job for some reason feels weird to me. I could keep it vague and say I’m “in fashion,” but, this is LA, everyone wants to know everything about what you do, including POTs and it’d be super odd for me (at least, my personality type) to just keep it vague. I’m proud of my career and passionate about what I do, so leaving it out feels borderline disingenuous and at the very least, boring, you know?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        Well good for you. that’s the right attitude. If something is not working continue doing it anyways

      • Anonymous says:

        @Hollywood… the indult of sleeping with you??? Imagine you found the guy of your dreams.. and you asked himfor sex.. and he told you that it was an insult that you even asked because of tge way you look/ your profressipn…

    • Bartolo says:

      First, this must be a feature of men in LA. Here on the east coast, I cannot imagine even 1 in 10 (straight) men seeking personal stylist services (outside of small pockets of Manhattan).

      There are many many more women than men, and I suspect that in your case a freebie closet make-over is “worth” more than a date with a POT SB. Keep searching until you find a man for whom that is not the case. OR, try to somehow bridge the gap and do a ‘I’ll review your closet if, first, you .’

      • Kore13 says:

        @Bartolo I didn’t think they were being serious? An invite to the closet sounds like a covert invitation to the bed. A line to close the distance in intimacy, a pick up line..

      • Anonymous says:

        There you go…@Kore with the smart hat on this morning.

      • HollywoodStyle says:

        @Kore, @Bartolo, for the most part, they’re definitely not being serious. I’m sure someone was at some point. But, no, it definitely feels like they’re either trying to get me into bed under the guise of free work, or just don’t really understand the insult of asking a consultant to consult as a date idea. BUT, it always comes AFTER we’ve already made plans to meet otherwise, for a normal date, so it seems like if their goal is just to sleep with me, they could’ve been more forthright with that to begin with.

      • HollywoodStyle says:

        And this absolutely is an LA thing. I’ve just moved from Chicago, and used the site briefly before that about three years ago in Houston. Same career the entire time, this has only just started happening.

      • Kore says:

        @Hollywood Why is it insulting? I think these cheesy lines are kind of cute. ^^

    • flyR says:

      How about a little bit of advice ………

      On the other side of the equation I have helped several SB’s with a variety of issues using the skills and time that I get paid to deliver to clients. If you are not willing to help your sugar partner with a couple of hours (once relationship established) then it is more of a professional relationship. It has also included some flight instruction, driving, and during the financial crash helping two deal with banks and bankruptcy. It’s been reciprocated by most their contributing beyond the awesome sexual adventures. i.e. personal museum guide etc.

      • HollywoodStyle says:

        I’m more than willing to help the people I spend time with with their style–it’s my passion and my “thing,” I offer advice all the time. The issue comes, though, when they want to switch out actually getting to know me with actual work. If a woman decided to forego dinner and instead have a business meeting, that would put you off a bit, wouldn’t it?

    • flyR says:

      Could it be that your profile pictures are attracting the wrong crowd.

      Well written, when you mention a modest allowance you might offer an alternative – or something a little more generous to have an incredible girlfriend and personal stylist.

      (( the win win of for some potential SD’s is that they might just be able to treat you as a legitimate business expense if they are a professional or in the entertainment biz))

      It also sounds like your pots are from the entertainment or related industries 95% parasites

      Re profile Well written – I would add more more photo a little more mainstream and with out clutter in the background…. When I see a profile with a lot of clutter in the background I worry that it reflects a lifestyle..

      • flyR says:

        RE entertainment industry – there’s a reason that the LA Country Club excludes entertainment industry folks . Even Ronald Reagan had to get a real job ( President) before they would admit him

      • HollywoodStyle says:

        Thanks for the advice! Like I said, I’m totally open to being a personal stylist to someone I’m already involved with, so maybe I’ll mention that. I just have this very, very strong distaste for working for free, but, don’t we all!

        Pictures are also something I know I have to work on. I try to just put up whichever ones got the most likes on Instagram (that fool-proof judgement machine) but I think I’ll make a little more effort to clean my room…My cluttered room is a byproduct of it also serving as a sweatshop. Maybe I’ll try to get my sewing machine in the background.

        Anyway, thanks! And yeah, I don’t actually get much attention from entertainment types once I turn down the inevitable porn offers, but they are definitely bigger time wasters than most. This city…

    • THEATLSD says:

      @Hollywood
      Sounds like this guys were not real SD. I have never told any of my SB who I work for and what my actual job is. I give a general description and leave it at that. None of the have ever pressed me for it. I like your answer that you are in the fashion business.
      Keep it general until you get to know the person. BTW I lost a SB over a bad joke also. Damn shallow people.

      • HollywoodStyle says:

        It’s looking like that may have to be the way to go. But my style and career are such a huge part of me, I have no clue what to replace that conversation with. I mean, I LOVE talking about it, I just don’t like when it’s expected that I become a workhorse rather than a lover. I’ll revise my profile to keep it simple. And yeah, I mentioned the joke thing to see if it’s ever happened to anyone else! Does anyone have a sense of humor about themselves, anymore!?

    • Anonymous says:

      do not steer the conversation to “I’m a personal stylist”. Just say, you work for corporations in helping executives with their wardrobe and such. If they hint that perhaps you can take a look at their closet, you should reply “you can’t afford my services” while you laugh at the matter, and then say, “thank you honey, but I only work with companies”, and change the subject. It will work better.

    • Anonymous says:

      I find it interesting how people try to teach how to lie here.

      • HollywoodStyle says:

        It’s an interesting phenomenon, isn’t it? Don’t 90% of profiles cite “honesty” right after “intimacy” and before “chemistry?”

      • Anonymous says:

        i dont think lieing needs to be taught, it is a universal human trait

    • Anonymous says: