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SCHEME ALERT: GagaMatch.com
  • Posted Mar 31, 2015

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The Internet offers a unique platform for billions of people to connect globally. The majority of the time we can trust the people we interact with, and even pay for services that connect us with them. Unfortunately, as in every other realm of life – we can’t trust everyone.

Recently, SeekingArrangement has been made aware of a phishing scam occurring on the site. The scam is primarily targeted in China and neighboring countries. Robot-esque accounts are registering profiles as Sugar Baby females on SeekingArrangement.com, initiating conversations with members, and then requesting to move the conversation to GaGaMatch.com.

Once the two parties have reconnected on GaGaMatch.com, the female user will ask the generous user to gift her with some variation of a “real” gift. The generous user will then be notified of completed gift delivery in two  to three days. The romantic pen pal will then message a thank you note for the gift. Sounds pretty cool, right? Theoretically yes, if the gift in question were to be sent to an actual person.

Unfortunately, GaGaMatch.com has employed an abundance of typing pro’s to catfish generous men. The photo’s on GaGaMatch are typically stolen from private archives of modeling agencies. Moreover, the standard language of these “beauties” is a variation of Chinese that only the site can decipher – reason being that  generous members must pay to have the message translated. If the message is translated through Google, or any other language service, it is not recognized.

SeekingArrangement does not endorse or encourage members to use GaGaMatch in ANY way. The support team at SeekingArrangement is taking additional precautions to find these bots and ban them from messaging our members.

Don’t let this hiccup deter you from pursuing Sugar relationships facilitated through SeekingArrangement. As with any site, use precaution when communicating, or sending money through the interweb.

Please contact support with any questions or concerns.


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2,323 Responses to “SCHEME ALERT: GagaMatch.com”

  1. Dave says:

    I found SA to be a good site, like every internet site you have to comb thru bs, but you do find good profiles, my only problem is the scam artists aka sugar babies that are on the site and after reporting them the administration didn’t do anything.

    So how not to get scammed:

    Some girl might bring a friend and if you are not careful and don’t check their ID’s, they might scam you for money stating that they are under aged! always check ID!!!

    Some girls ask for the money upfront to get beautiful for a meeting and you will never see them.
    Some girls are just to have a expensive dinner with you and you will never see them again.

  2. SouthernSB says:

    If I had known about Sugar when I was 20 and had the self-esteem and confidence to believe what men were telling me about myself. I would have been a first class trophy wife, by now.

  3. SouthernSB says:

    gentleman soul says:
    @Muah

    I think it’s odd that you talk poorly of younger men… Sort of arrogant or no…?
    Well ,I was young once, and had no clue how to pleasure a woman ,and had no money to spoil her (monetarily that is ) . I get my info from SBs who complain about the age appropriate guys they see. Yes ,it is a selection bias . Every young lady isn’t out for the big bucks and life of ease–or a sexual virtuoso. Probably most are OK with the Dream of a guy their age,house,picket fence ,and a dog.
    …………………………………………………………………..
    @Gentleman Soul
    I didn’t want the whole picket fence, house, and dog, when I was 5!! When the girls were making two story split levels with their Legos, I was making three story mansions with 6 bedrooms and 4 baths that took me three days to make. All I really wanted when I was a kid was an apt. on the 35 floor, a grand piano, a husband in a tux and two daughters that went to tennis camp. Suffice it to say, I really didn’t fit in among my working class black neighborhood and my “marry the military” family.

  4. ErikTheRed says:

    SB who has a $2500/mo rent bill due and counts on her SD entirely for making the payment would be well advised to either move or seek employment, including even escorting. There is nothing wrong with $2500/mo sugar, nor anything wrong with $2500/mo rent, each by itself. However:

    1. Rent should not exceed 1/3 to 1/2 of income;

    2. Sugar doesn’t last forever. Unlike using the sugar money for a worthwhile degree or starting a business or at least making good investment, rent payment is gone and never seen again from the tenant’s perspective. Why maintain such a high burn rate? Move or find a job that pays at least double if not triple the rent amount; otherwise your spot is better turned over to someone who can afford it, for all involved.

  5. FunDude says:

    Went out with a hot 23 y/o old today. Did a shooting then hibachi restaurant.

    Got a date with my 31 y/o RN tomorrow night.

    Shit is cray cray these days

  6. Josh says:

    Wishful thinking is a great hobby. Doesn’t cost anything.

  7. gentleman soul says:

    RE: allowance
    So here’s how I see it .There seems to be concern over just #1 ,so guys are looking at things differently. I’m sure others have different opinions and can add to this list . The figure I put are based on my mid level market.

    1)Basic support from A to Z $5000/month
    2)Cover larger fixed expense(tuition) $2000/month
    3)smaller but significant costs $1000/month
    3)provide fun money for treats and gifts $500/month
    4)Luxury support A to Z $10000/month

    I am in level 3 right now

    Most of you seem to want support . We are talking SO ,IRL GF somebody we see everyday and is taking care of most all of our needs all the time .

  8. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Denise – if @gentleman has 1k a month he can use to Sugar, he could just get her a place…then he wouldn’t have to go to the high end hotels to play, just show up at the rental and be “home” with his lover…although paying for the place doesn’t leave any room for lifestyle for her or gifts for her or much entertainment outside of the rental…but at least she’s got a roof over her head…

  9. gentleman soul says:

    DirtyLittleSecret says:

    Awesome Avatar ! Better than FunDudes IMHO !

    @ Denise
    So gentleman soul you’re married and have $1000 a month to sugar with without being “noticed?” How do you pay for upscale hotels plus give a sugar baby a decent allowance with $1k? Also she spends the night?

    Well ,I can’t do much Sugaring due to being “under the eye” So I have to stay under the radar. In fact I might have to give it up because of that fact. So the answer to the question is “I can’t”

    The lovey dovey kissing and hugging all night? I’m curious about how the men here can feel so physically comfortable with someone they don’t know well?

    Because that is what we do . It’s easy to go from zero to 60 in seconds . There is a difference between love and just passion . I like to have both . If it is just passion then I like to leave after the bell rings . If it is both I like to stay all night

    Actually scratch that last question. People appear to do it all the time so I guess it my be normal to them.

    Yep !We’re talking about Sugar relationships ,not IRL Love. Although sometimes they do intersect.

  10. Denise says:

    So gentleman soul you’re married and have $1000 a month to sugar with without being “noticed?” How do you pay for upscale hotels plus give a sugar baby a decent allowance with $1k? Also she spends the night?

    The lovey dovey kissing and hugging all night? I’m curious about how the men here can feel so physically comfortable with someone they don’t know well?

    Actually scratch that last question. People appear to do it all the time so I guess it my be normal to them.

  11. FunDude says:

    @DLS

    Most of the country outside of big cities have plenty of rentals for under 1K per month.

    Most of Michigan (even in Detroit) has rentals for under 1K/month. Most of Illinois outside of Chicago, most of NY outside of NYC, etc.

  12. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @DLS – I apologize…my guard has been up because of the insanity of a couple of other posters ragging on the allowance amount…

    To help you understand, I’m in Midwest between Chicago and Detroit…that’s where you can get an apartment with utilities for less than 1k a month…

    I have enjoyed some of your posts in the past…I did not mean to get aggressive or belligerent about the allowance, it’s just a sore subject because of two other posters attacks…again, I apologize…that’s what happens when you try to post between meetings and SB time and everything else…

  13. Promise says:

    @gentleman You make me blush.

  14. DirtyLittleSecret says:

    @ONSD
    Once again, I never brought up an allowance or even used the word “allowance.”
    I just asked where the hell this place is where you can live for under 1k. To me, that is insanity.
    I never suggested ever what is too much or too little for an allowance. In fact, I’ve never discussed what I think an allowance should be, because it’s irrelevant to every person on this blog.
    It seems people like to take what others say out of context and try to make some kind of interesting subject of it while making the original commenter look bad.

  15. gentleman soul says:

    @Blog Topic

    Is usually on point for 20 posts until flight of thought takes over and the Blog is dragged where the bloggers want it to go . The topic could be gelato flavors in NYC and we will still be talking about sex shortly thereafter .

  16. flyR says:

    If SA wanted to be helpful they would share the analysis which I believe they have done on picture preferences where they flash 16? pictures from profiles on a screen with no other information, what do people pick? What are the characteristics smile , breasts hips clothing background etc

  17. flyR says:

    YO MODERATOR THERE’S 2,500 COMMENTS OF WHICH 2,499 HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THE TOPIC DOES THAT TELL YOU SOMETHING

    How about New Topic

    Something REALLY creative like

    NewBlog 150409

  18. Promise says:

    @Muah Michelle Phan?

  19. Muah says:

    Nyet Gentleman, that’s a digital painting my own creation. I appreciate beautiful women :) The pic is of a girl who makes youtube videos, etc.

  20. gentleman soul says:

    @Dueling Avatars

    Good pics all ! I like the competition to show “The Goods ” Muah ,is that a pinting of you ? Pretty hot if so .

  21. Muah says:

    @Darkhorse
    So you’re a lady? Lol… Thanks for sharing :)

  22. DarkHorseSD says:

    What’s Your Price is for men who are idiots to be ripped off by the site and the women.

    Enjoy the experience.

  23. DarkHorseSD says:

    Gentleman…

    So her expected allowance would be roughly $4800/month/DECADE

    We ought to start talking about Expected Allowance –

    The monthly rate of allowance adjusted for how often any allowance might be received. It includes women that don’t need a man in the discussion.

  24. Josh says:

    Dunno. I just like his posts. 😉

  25. DarkHorseSD says:

    “The girls that have bad luck and more bad luck and even moorrrreee bad luck with men IRL, seriously need to do some self reflection – When you make a mistake you are supposed to learn from that mistake. If a gal is 30 and bitching about how she ‘don’t want no man who plays games’, she really should stop dating that type of man. Duh lol.”

  26. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – who needs a tongue lashing now?

  27. Josh says:

    Where is FatB’StardSA Proxy?

  28. Josh says:

    Where are all the good men?

    [http://i.imgbox.com/PLoppM18.jpg]

  29. BethSB says:

    @Fundude i think you’re being pimped out. lol

  30. BethSB says:

    Muah says:
    April 9, 2015 at 9:30 am
    @Beth
    Yep :) I haven’t found much on it and I am curious if any of the gals on here have used it/know how to use it lol
    …………………………………………………………………..
    I’m about to check it out now. @Muah

    ……………………………………………………………………
    FunDude says:
    April 9, 2015 at 9:34 am
    @Beth

    Your gravatar is pretty nice as well.
    ………………………………………………………………
    @Fundude i know but yours. *Fanning self*

    ………………………………………………………………
    Promise says:
    April 9, 2015 at 9:41 am
    @Beth I think @GP already called dibs on @FunDude.
    ………………………………………………………………
    @Promise well someone has to because i’m not lol And it’s supposed to be a mutual arrangement otherwise it’s stalking. ahahhahahaha

  31. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Lainey – I understand your aversion to the toy and desire for the dick…all student’s experience with toys has been external stim, but hitting that inner spot was a new and nice experience for her, so I’m hoping the remote capabilities will help her remember me over the weekend!

  32. Promise says:

    @Beth I think @GP already called dibs on @FunDude.

  33. Muah says:

    @Gentleman
    I get that :)
    I’m a tough love kind of person. If you don’t like how your life is you need to look at what you are doing wrong and how you can improve… Same with dating. I’ll admit it is a pet peeve when women sit and complain about how they are treated, etc, etc – Yet they continue to date the same TYPE of guy. How about: grow some self esteem and learn to see the red flags you idiot.

    @Fundude
    It really is that simple!

  34. FunDude says:

    @Beth

    Your gravatar is pretty nice as well.

    @Muah

    I agree with your perception about a female who is 31 saying she “doesn’t want a guy who plays games”. Stop looking for those types of guys and there won’t be a problem. It is really that simple.

    @Promise

    The “rules” are basically:

    1) Don’t call or text the guy first
    2) Wait for a long time to text him back to show you’re “busy”
    3) Get off the phone within 10 mins due to being “busy”

    Just annoying nonsense like that. No woman should follow that gibberish. I was never impressed by a female who did that.

  35. Muah says:

    @Beth
    Yep :) I haven’t found much on it and I am curious if any of the gals on here have used it/know how to use it lol

  36. gentleman soul says:

    @Muah

    I think it’s odd that you talk poorly of younger men… Sort of arrogant or no…?

    Well ,I was young once, and had no clue how to pleasure a woman ,and had no money to spoil her (monetarily that is ) . I get my info from SBs who complain about the age appropriate guys they see. Yes ,it is a selection bias . Every young lady isn’t out for the big bucks and life of ease–or a sexual virtuoso. Probably most are OK with the Dream of a guy their age,house,picket fence ,and a dog

  37. BethSB says:

    @Beth
    Do you have What’s Your Price where you are from?
    ………………………………………………………….

    @Muah are you talking about that website?

  38. Muah says:

    Promise
    If you have standards and respect for yourself/guys you date – You will not have any trouble finding a guy IRL who can please you. Sugar dating is like a purgatory of dating – it has it’s upsides and it’s downsides. You have to find the medium :)

    Gentleman
    Oh yes because men our own age automatically have no idea what they are doing and have no interest in pleasing a woman… I know from personal experience that is complete nonsense. I also want to say – just because a man isn’t rolling in the dough doesn’t mean he doesn’t know how to spoil a girl. I think it’s odd that you talk poorly of younger men… Sort of arrogant or no…?

    The girls that have bad luck and more bad luck and even moorrrreee bad luck with men IRL, seriously need to do some self reflection – When you make a mistake you are supposed to learn from that mistake. If a gal is 30 and bitching about how she ‘don’t want no man who plays games’, she really should stop dating that type of man. Duh lol.

    @Beth
    Do you have What’s Your Price where you are from?

  39. BethSB says:

    Geez!!! @FunDude ,That Gravatar though.

  40. gentleman soul says:

    GPS

    So I have been talking to a 20 yr old student who lives in a rural area and quoted an allowance requirement of $4800/month . She’s cute but no Blogette. She would not even consider negotiating one dollar . She claims to have had a daddy give her that. It must be her Father type Daddy . What’s up with that ?

    Single: Fun Dude has got it made . I agree with Josh that dating IRL while you can attract the young ladies followed by Sugar dating is the way to go .

    Married Sugar:

    OK ,my SO has control of $30K /month. I only can afford $1K without it being noticed . If I were single I could do some serious sugaring and still have enough left for the IRA,Boat,and Jet . Single is good but too little too late . Divorce is not a good retirement option .

  41. Promise says:

    Just had the creepiest looking SD view my profile. His grammar is the worst I’ve ever seen on here, and I’m pretty sure he made his own words.

  42. gentleman soul says:

    @Promise
    The more I read on here the more my innocence flakes away.

    Promise ,you sound like my kind of girl . Innocence is wonderful to share with a new SB . Enjoy it while you can . The problem for young Babies is that a great SD experience kind of ruins IRL dating . Face it -if you have a super sexual experienced older man who spoils the socks off his girl,it makes the 20 yr old 3 pump wonder who goes dutch at Golden Corral look lame . Once you have a good experience it is hard to go back !

  43. Muah says:

    @Ladies
    Anyone know what What’s Your Price is all about??? I just signed up and I am already getting offers but I don’t know what to do lol…

  44. Muah says:

    @Promise
    Yea I walk that fine line lol. I did a lot of reading on sugar before even joining and I try to find a balance.

  45. Josh says:

    Many women have brain made out of chicken shit.

  46. Promise says:

    @Muah You just reminded me of something that annoys me about Tumblr SB’s. A lot of them are always talking about how they see their SD’s as ATM’s. Meanwhile I’m sitting here like “Give him to me if you don’t really care about him!”

  47. Muah says:

    @Denise
    I understand what you are saying – about spending too much time and getting too attached, etc. I want to genuinely care for my sugar daddy of course! I am a terrible liar so I wouldn’t be able to fake being into a guy just for da monies lol. However, I have zero interest in a traditional relationship with someone from this site – sure stranger things have happened… I’m not interested in a traditional relationship with anyone at this time but that’s besides the point. I don’t do FWB or booty calls either. I had one one night stand and it was horribly unsatisfying so I never did it again…

  48. Denise says:

    @Flake issues.

    Honestly it seems much more fun on the outside looking in than doing it yourself. I’ve been speaking to a Pot daily and for some reason I’m still on the fence about it. He wants to spend alot of time traveling with me and enjoy so many things I enjoy. The strange part for me is that it’s “NSA” but mirrors a regular relationship which just feels odd. I’m not into casual sex but I’d probably feel a tad less uncomfortable if I could hang out for an hour and then run off. I know it sounds odd but the more you spend time with someone the more emotional entanglements are bound to happen. Point is I’ve never “hooked up”. Sure I dated but there was a specific relationship goal in mind. Dead end engagements just feel off to me which is why I could never stomach casual sex ie FWB or booty calls.

    I think the “Poof” SDs are getting is because sexpectations feel awkward. Maybe it’s the obligation that feels strange.

  49. Promise says:

    @Josh Thank you. :)

  50. Josh says:

    @Keke

    @Kenna has never dated losers either.

  51. Promise says:

    @KeKe 20
    @FunDude DAMN YOU WERE RIGHT ABOUT STEVE HARVEY! I’m watching it now and he had a guy not only wash his wife’s feet, but also dry them WITH HIS FACE.

  52. KeKe says:

    @Promise you never dated and you are stepping into the “Sugar Bowl”? I don’t know if that’s smart. How old are you again?

  53. Promise says:

    @KeKe I’m at the age where I should be using them, and I don’t even know what they are. Probably ’cause I’ve never dated.

  54. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @DLS – if I met a student who wanted me to fund her with a 2-bedroom HOUSE, I’m probably bolting from her…NO REASON to have a 2-bedroom house for a lover if I’m footing the bill (because if she’s got kids, I’d expect that she already has a job, alimony, child support, etc. to cover the living expenses…Sugar is supposed to be EXTRA, not main course)…and…all-in with utilities in my area for a house rental instead of an apartment would still be about $700-800 a month for a 1-bedroom with a modicum of privacy.

    See, allowance is REGIONAL…for a woman to get me beyond Practical, she better exceed what I’ve had in the past from a Practical-level lover…haven’t met one yet!

  55. KeKe says:

    @FunDude? @Anyone What is the “rules”?

  56. Promise says:

    @Josh You’re right. We really do need a new article. This one is almost the most commented on.

  57. Josh says:

    The problem with men is that they are taking on way too much liability upon themselves because of either the pussy or desire to have children or both.

    The way laws are written and interpreted, neither the pussy nor children are guaranteed in a marriage.

    The single men have best of both worlds. Their income typically increases and the libido decreases with age.

    So when young, date the best quality women you can get…as you get older and the income increases, complement your personal charm with Benjamin’s. 😉

  58. Josh says:

    @FunDude

    The good thing about SDs posting their experiences is that I get the confirmation that its not just me who is getting “lucky” with flakes. LOL!

  59. Promise says:

    @Dark You’re so mean! TT~TT

  60. FunDude says:

    I find women in their 30s who play games like the “Rules” to be insane to me.

    These ladies have much less time to find a good relationship due to their age. I don’t get how they think they can act like a female who is 18-22 who have significantly more time to find a man.

    No female should play games like the “rules” because its just stupid and doesn’t work. Men don’t respond to that bullshit.

    However, a female in her early 20s can play that game FAR MORE than a female in her 30s.

    I find these women delusional about their age.

  61. FunDude says:

    I find it pathetic that the quality of many of the women on here is LOWER than POF or a matchmaking site considering on neither of those places women expect to be paid to date/have sex, etc.

    You would expect if a female wants 1K/month (which a good amount of SBs on here think is “cheap”) they would be significant HIGHER in standards than other places.

    I also find a lot of quite flakey women on here.

    The 25 y/o flake was the strangest one yet. She literally asked for my number. She texted me right away. She basically texted me everyday and responded to my texts quickly. She was very enthused to meet for a date. We were to setup a date last Saturday.

    Then poof. She goes MIA.

    The 31 y/o female who is in school to become an RN who looks attractive but appears to have a lot of issues with men. Her profile is all about she doesn’t “play games” and is angry that men are looking at women who are 19 or 20.

    She gives me her number to text without being asked. We text for a little while. She then appears to flake out when I actually try to setup a date.

    Very weird women lol

  62. VitesseSD says:

    @DarkHorseSD
    “SA is not the place to slap together a profile when you’ve fucked up everything else in your life, blown every opportunity and lost every friend and every family member’s goodwill.”

    But where else will they find a white knight to settle with once they’re too used up to ride the carousel?

  63. DarkHorseSD says:

    “Promise says:
    April 8, 2015 at 7:51 pm
    Anyone know any colleges in New York or California for music or dancing?”

    Flash Dancers, Cheetahs, Scores, Private Eyes ..

    To name a few. LOL

    Lots of girls on “Student Visas” getting their real education there.

  64. Josh says:

    Amen to that.

  65. DarkHorseSD says:

    “FunDude says:
    April 8, 2015 at 7:30 pm
    @Dark

    I am getting higher quality women off of POF or matchmaking sites in terms of :

    1) Looks
    2) Good age range
    3) Personality

    That makes it very difficult to justify any type of “allowance” outside of normal gifts and vacations.”

    Your results reported in the two posts are why I railed for years against what SA was don to itself…

    Listen to whom It may concern..

    We are well off men with busy lives and extremely valuable time who don’t need to waste anything on women who jerk us around.

    We are not paying for amature time – if you are not serious, don’t know what you are doing or what you can do, aren’t prepared, etc. get out of the way and don’t think your going to make it on SA or in general in the sugar world.

    SA is not the place to slap together a profile when you’ve fucked up everything else in your life, blown every opportunity and lost every friend and every family member’s goodwill.

  66. FunDude says:

    True promise crazy times

  67. Promise says:

    @FunDude Even the lady that made Feminism said that modern day Feminism ain’t right.

  68. Promise says:

    @Josh That’s where the work is.
    @ss1959 I’m to dumb for Julliard.

  69. Josh says:

    [http://www.ihatemen.org] has 300,000 members.

    [www.ihatewomen.org] does not exist.

    Who is the hater?

  70. Lainey says:

    @Struggle What? A dick and toy? How in the entire fuck?

  71. ss1959 says:

    @Promise: “Anyone know any colleges in New York or California for music or dancing?”

    Ummm, Julliard?

  72. Josh says:

    @Promise,

    Why on earth would you want to go to New York of California to learn music or dancing? The rent will kill ya.

  73. FunDude says:

    Good video by a female against feminism:

    {{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vNErQFmOwq0}}

  74. FunDude says:

    @Josh

    Hillary isn’t too pleased with China.

    Im sure they are very concerned lol

    The whole non Western world is up in arms against feminism.

  75. Josh says:

    Go China Go. Protect your geographical boundaries from the batshit philosophy called Feminism.

  76. Promise says:

    Anyone know any colleges in New York or California for music or dancing?

  77. FunDude says:

    @Georgia

    Nope but planning on doing the “Iron Man” during my next vacation lol

    Training for it.

  78. FunDude says:

    Dont fuck with China lol

    {{http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/chinese-womens-rights-activists-jailed-without-charge/story-fnq2o7dd-1227296226736}}

  79. FunDude says:

    @Dark

    I am getting higher quality women off of POF or matchmaking sites in terms of :

    1) Looks
    2) Good age range
    3) Personality

    That makes it very difficult to justify any type of “allowance” outside of normal gifts and vacations.

  80. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @FunDude
    So do you get the “Drops of Love” package? LOL
    Hmmm. Not a bad deal for 5 nights: [JACUZZI ROOM Cost Per Adult: $820 Total: $1640] Adults only. Now I just have to find the guy. LOL

  81. Josh says:

    Aziz Ansari’s new stand up performance in Madison Square Garden talks about flakiness in dating.

  82. FunDude says:

    @Dark

    Its worse off of SA then POF or matchmaking sites.

    I am actually getting higher quality looking women off of POF or on matchmaking sites half of the time.

    The one I am dating tomorrow is 23 y/o blond from POF with a bachelor’s. She is very cute.

    The 31 y/o RN is also from POF.

    I have a 23 y/o and a 27 y/o from a matchmaking site.

    The 31 y/o old that flaked on me was from SA. I had a 25 y/o who was texting me very aggressively for about 5 days suddenly flake as well. Don’t get it.

  83. Promise says:

    @Dark y u tell me this so late? XD

  84. DarkHorseSD says:

    “Promise says:
    April 8, 2015 at 6:41 pm
    The more I read on here the more my innocence flakes away.”

    SA is NOT for innocence.

  85. GeorgiaPeach says:

    Dr. Fun
    Thank you for clearing that little tidbit up for me.
    Hmmm. However, I’d still like to see you in those “short shorts” though. LOL And I definitely get the feeling you are a “fun dude’ in many more ways than one.

  86. DarkHorseSD says:

    “Yet when you actually try to give her a change, she goes flakey”

    Very commonplace. A lot of people’s issues are self generated.

  87. DarkHorseSD says:

    “That is why I go with so many options because you never know when a woman is going to flake.”

    Totally ..

  88. FunDude says:

    @Promise

    Yes, that is how I got the name “Fun Dude” lol

    I was very “fun” at temptation resort in Cancun. You should check that place out lol

  89. Promise says:

    @FunDude “I either wear boxers or nothing.” You really are a FunDude!

  90. FunDude says:

    @Georgia

    It was a joke.

    I either wear boxers or nothing. Speedos aren’t an option lol

  91. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @FunDude
    I have no doubt you are straight, however, let me refresh your memory here…

    “FunDude says: April 8, 2015 at 5:10 pm @promise Just be happy I’m wearing shorts. Could’ve been s speedo”

    Well? LOL

  92. FunDude says:

    @Georgia

    I don’t wear speedos, Im straight lol

  93. Promise says:

    The more I read on here the more my innocence flakes away.

  94. GeorgiaPeach says:

    Dear @Dr Fun
    I understand.
    Now how about showing us that body in a pair of those speedos, please?

  95. FunDude says:

    @Georgia

    Only if I am sticking my penis in a vagina, then I am interested.

    Not interested in hearing about a random vibrator lol

  96. StruggleIsReal says:

    @GA Peach
    That’s very heartbreaking to hear about your dad crying and feeling sad. So sorry about that, and I am sure that your food is comforting for him, especially since it reminds him of his love.
    Sure, just let me know if/when you’re able to get onto a webcam or such. xo

  97. FunDude says:

    This same 31 y/o basically has a profile bitching about how men are only looking for women in their 20s, she doesn’t want to “play games”, etc.

    Yet when you actually try to give her a change, she goes flakey.

    Then you wonder why I have my reservations for these women in their 30s. Granted, she was attractive and thin but definitely not hotter than my younger dates.

  98. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @FunDude “Ok ladies, we don’t need to know about your clitorial stimulation.”

    So Dr. Dude, you don’t like “clitoral stimulation”? Perhaps you would prefer we discussed the opposite for you? LOL

  99. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @Struggle
    Hi there!
    No I didn’t see your previous post. Sorry.
    Yes, I’m back in GA now. Returned late Mon. evening. Dad is ok, but he’s showing his 86 yrs more each time I visit. It’s so difficult for him now. He misses my Mom so much and he cries a lot. That’s one of the hardest for me, when he cries – daughters shouldn’t see their father’s cry, especially in this type of situation because I start to cry too. It helps that the weather is warm now and he can get outside and do the yard work he loves. I try to go up about every 6 wks, but the weather was so crazy this winter, I was delayed. I cook a lot for my Dad while I’m there and freeze meals, etc for him, so he doesn’t have to cook much. He is trying and for the most part he isn’t “giving up” but he has mentioned a few times that he doesn’t think he’ll be around long. That hurts to hear.

    He has refused to learn how to work a computer, so no internet at home and the town is rather small, so hours are limited at the library for internet use. LOL. I try to slip over there as often as I can.

    I’m trying to find a cheap webcam for my desktop since I work mainly from it. My laptop is a small travel size thing and it’s having some issues right now. As soon as I get a webcam connected, I’ll let you know, then I would love to Skype or such with you. That would be fun… and interesting! Thanks! 😉

  100. FunDude says:

    @Promise

    So far, so good. Got a few more this week to do.

    One of the 31 y/o females seems to have dropped out. I texted her about a time and she appears to have stopped texting me.

    Some flakey women.

    That is why I go with so many options because you never know when a woman is going to flake.

  101. Promise says:

    @FunDude That reminds me. Didn’t you meet a POT today?

  102. FunDude says:

    Ok ladies, we don’t need to know about your clitorial stimulation.

    Thanks.

    Sincerely,

    FunDude

  103. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @Josh
    Thanks for the memories. BTW, I was 3 when that song was sung there. LOL How old were you? Or were you perhaps one of those “twinkles” of things yet to come?

  104. StruggleIsReal says:

    @GA Peach
    Are you done in VA? Dad is okay? I hope so.
    I don’t know if you saw my post before, but I wanted to see if you would Skype with me.

  105. StruggleIsReal says:

    @Lainey
    Well, he is for sure the main reason, but it makes sense in other important aspects for me too.
    re: WeVibe… from what I understand, the one I have was meant for use *with* a partner… like put it in, then put a dick in. I could not fit it all. LoL So just used it as a clitoral vibrator. But I cannot speak for the new one that you have.

  106. KennaKenna says:

    @Lainey I’m kinda similar to that, 95% of my toys are only clitoral stimulation- strange, because a tiny butt plug drives me insane (in a good way).

    I have the plus too, the app is what led me to buy it.

  107. Josh says:

    Short Shorts [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MOfFB5QF4iQ]

  108. Promise says:

    @GP knows what she likes.

  109. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @FunDude
    Honey, I’ll defend shorts, briefs, boxers, speedos… anytime. Especially when they are displayed on someone with your body. Yum. 😉

  110. Fundude says:

    Thanks for defending my shorts Georgia. Appreciate it

  111. Promise says:

    @Josh orz
    @FunDude I’m far from upset. d’.’b

  112. Lainey says:

    @Struggles @Kenna @ONSD I have the We-Vibe4Plus with the app on his phone and HATE! The idea of potting something inside of myself that’s not a dick makes me cringe. For this same reason I do not own toys unless strictly clitoral and HATE being fingered. Its the mysophobe in me.

  113. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @Josh “They are boxers aka underwear.”
    Hey Honey, it almost sounds like you might be a bit jealous over the good Dr’s bod. Perhaps you should model your “undies” for us also.

    @Fundude “@promise Just be happy I’m wearing shorts. Could’ve been s speedo”
    Dr Fun… if you decide to show us your “speedo” I’m sure most other females won’t mind.

  114. Josh says:

    @Fundude

    “@josh

    Make a new blog about crazy sb. That would be interesting”

    ?

  115. Fundude says:

    @josh

    Make a new blog about crazy sb. That would be interesting

  116. Lainey says:

    @Struggles I hope you have other reasons besides him for moving.

  117. Josh says:

    @Promise

    You are the youngest and the virginest blogger here.

  118. Fundude says:

    Promise

    Sounds like you’re upset I got a pic with shorts. Am I in that bad shape? Lol.

    Got to lean out a little

  119. Fundude says:

    @josh

    I’m doing my justin bieber impression. Hanging out in boxers.

    They are technically shorts though

  120. Fundude says:

    Damn iPhone lol

  121. Josh says:

    They are boxers aka underwear.

  122. Fundude says:

    @Pi

    Good joke a out upton not being hot lol

  123. Fundude says:

    @promise

    Just be happy I’m wearing shorts. Could’ve been s speedo

  124. Fundude says:

    @promise
    Dunno where I got them lol.
    Its just shorts

  125. Promise says:

    I just thought of something; Am I the youngest person on here?

  126. DirtyLittleSecret says:

    @Dark, no thanks. I think I’ll stay on my island. It’s actually more of a peninsula but around here it’s called XYZ Island. 😉

  127. flyR says:

    @ struggle – my email is inop ,

  128. Josh says:

    @Admins

    ‘Tis the time for a new article.

  129. Promise says:

    Dang this post has a lot of comments.

  130. DarkHorseSD says:

    DSL move to a cheaper trailer park and open your profe.

  131. KeKe says:

    @FunDude.. Can I put in a request?

  132. Promise says:

    *I haven’t seen shorts like those in years.

  133. DirtyLittleSecret says:

    @ PI, Nothing in the horizon. Though I’m not actively looking. I opened a profile here and disabled it in less than two weeks.

    I kept talking to four POTs and they have since fizzled. Either they’re busy or the ones that can give me what I want in don’t feel chemistry with.

  134. Promise says:

    @gentleman You’re so sweet~

  135. DirtyLittleSecret says:

    Where is everyone from that 1k pays the rent plus other utilities? Holy crap!

    Here where I am 1k would get you the shittiest trailer in the park. And you need to pay for your utilities on top of that.

    In the average part of town a two bedroom, two bathroom home rents for around 2,500. Not a big or new one either. One built in the 60’s that’s maybe 1200 sq ft.

  136. Promise says:

    @FunDude I haven’t shorts like those in years. Where’d you get them, and do they have an online store?

  137. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @FunDude
    Damn, I gotta find a new doctor around here. If nothing else just to look at him from time to time. LOL I can’t even imagine thinking of my current one in “shorts.” LOL

  138. KeKe says:

    @PI…Are you married?

  139. PI Wolf says:

    @Denise,

    Let me share why I like overnights. First, I can relax and enjoy a slow dinner (in or out, is fine) and I like have sex just before getting a good night’s sleep. After 8 hours (or more) of rest, I like to not have to rush off someplace in the morning, and have another round of sex. Followed by breakfast, then off to face the world. To me, an SD/SB relationship is that of having an affair – except no promises of marriage – and financial benefits (of several kind) to the SB.

  140. Josh says:

    Is that link to Kate Upton’s cat daddy?

  141. DirtyLittleSecret says:

    @Sexy, I’m on drugs?

    You must be, darling, because you couldn’t coherently read what I wrote.

    I just simply said they didn’t seem like they were into the traditional SD/SB relationship. Not once did I even bring up the word “allowance” in my comment.

    Calm your tits.

  142. gentleman soul says:

    FunDude says:
    April 8, 2015 at 2:22 pm
    Chick who deserves a substantial allowance:

    She’s OK -maybe a 7.5. Nothing like our girls on the blog who deserve uber substantial !!

  143. FunDude says:

    Chick who deserves a substantial allowance:

    {{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCUnWIs88CQ}}

  144. FunDude says:

    @Promise

    Definitely more discrete than most of the female’s pics on here lol

  145. FunDude says:

    @Promise

    Shorts. Why do you ask?

  146. Jj says:

    “Nibian”…… buahhahahaaaa!!! I have her!!!!!

  147. Muah says:

    @Darkhorse
    Maybe you should text her…

  148. Promise says:

    @FunDude Are those shorts or undies?

  149. DarkHorseSD says:

    Ok..where is Nibian?

  150. KennaKenna says:

    @ONSD lol true. We only used it a little so far and was fun. He wants to try it out the next time we travel together, me sitting beside him in airport or plane and him teasing me.

  151. Jj says:

    Mention about the gym and make it more like Facebook and realism… just say’n

  152. FunDude says:

    Seems like the same old, same old stuff. Nothing particularly interesting today.

  153. FunDude says:

    What is up today room?

  154. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Kenna – but if you used his card, it was simply an implied purchase he made for you 😉

    Did you have any trouble using it with your man?

  155. KennaKenna says:

    @ONSD I’m the one that ordered it :-)

  156. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Struggle – when it’s reciprocal, that’s when it’s the BEST!

  157. StruggleIsReal says:

    @ONSD
    Aw!! It’s the best, feeling so lucky! I am sure she feels so lucky too… It’s kind of a reciprocal thing usually :)

  158. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Struggle & @Kenna –

    I tried giving a link to the adam and eve website, my comment is in moderation…

    We used it already together…it was right after lunch with @Sexy and drummer…I said, “can you imagine if I had given you this BEFORE lunch? How much fun would lunch have been if I had you using this?”

    Damn I feel so lucky right now!!!!!

  159. StruggleIsReal says:

    @Kenna
    Oh yeah, that’s right! Thanks!
    I have the earlier version that doesn’t have the Bluetooth remote capability… It’s totally great. Yeah I bet it’s so fun to use with the remote!

  160. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Kenna – you got one from your man?! YEAH…you’ll HAVE to let me know how the remote access works!

    I’m seeing student tomorrow and giving it to her so we can try it…I told her we might have to go get a cup of coffee so I can see how she acts in public with it 😉

  161. KennaKenna says:

    @Struggle We-Vibe.

  162. KennaKenna says:

    @Struggle you should get it- great toy!

    @ONSD We haven’t used it apart as yet, perhaps when he is in Vegas for work next week.

  163. NubianSB says:

    KeKe says:
    April 8, 2015 at 10:38 am

    I love early morning sex. I love overnights for that exact reason. AND like cuddling Before bed and in the morning. I prefer it. Feels less transactional
    ————————————————————–
    You said it! Nothing like it. Nothing like it at all…hmmm…:-)

  164. gentleman soul says:

    KeKe ,if you are into someone it is the best thing ever . It is just hard to sustain that level of intensity in a LTR. Perhaps that is why some of us stray-to try to recapture that magic and passion. If I were single I think I would just Sugar date forever .

  165. KeKe says:

    I love early morning sex. I love overnights for that exact reason. AND like cuddling Before bed and in the morning. I prefer it. Feels less transactional

  166. gentleman soul says:

    @ Denise
    I’m curios why is it so important to spend night to morning?

    I love snuggling with a beloved Baby-ALL night,kissing a little here and there,a stroke down her little butt, squeeze her breast ,listen to the cute little night noises –IF you are into each other !! Nothing better .

    OTOH ,I have FB type SBs who I can’t wait to move on after rocking and rolling . An escort who only saw me would be perfect for that . I just can’t deal with being the 6th guy in for that day .

  167. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @DarkHorse – yeah, I guess I am…but I was thinking of HER (hahaha)

  168. StruggleIsReal says:

    @ONSD
    Dang it I haven’t! Oh cool, glad to hear it’s a satisfactory purchase! I think it sounds really fun. I need to have another look at it. What was it called again?

  169. Josh says:

    @Denise-theEscort is mighty experienced in how escorts roll. Well, duh!

  170. DarkHorseSD says:

    OnLineNewBie:

    Breakfast!!!!! Gross; you are sooooo NEEEDY!

  171. StruggleIsReal says:

    @ONSD
    Yes and yes! And thank you dear, I feel so lucky and thankful for such a great guy!
    I’m really excited both about moving and meeting up with you guys! Fun times ahead for sure!

  172. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Struggle – did gb ever get you that toy?

    I bought it…it’s WONDERFUL as a couples thing…I introduced it to student just after lunch with @Sexy and drummer…she said she’s never felt anything like it…especially when we continued using it with me 😉

    I’m thinking about giving it to her so we can try the remote control capabilities over the weekend…

  173. DarkHorseSD says:

    “4:30 is perfect!”

    YES!

  174. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Struggle…gb is moving you to him?!!! WOW…congrats!!!

    Now we’re going to HAVE to get a group together for drinks 😉

  175. StruggleIsReal says:

    *isn’t !!
    Haha

  176. StruggleIsReal says:

    @ONSD
    Yep! Downtown Chicago! :) GB is fucking around! LoL

  177. ErikTheRed says:

    Actually, testosterone level is higher for both men and women in the morning after sleeping. T level is critical to the desire for sex, both male and female.

  178. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Struggle – you said moving, right…are you getting closer to us in the midwest?

  179. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Denise – I don’t think it’s a “new thing” to want an overnight with your lover…even as a married SD I’ve always liked being able to spend an extended time with a lover…and you’re exactly right, most escorts have an overnight rate.

    For some of us SDs, there is a desire for more than just “tab A in slot B” intercourse…we want to take our time, enjoy everything that each of us has to offer…we want to feel like we’re more than just fuck-buddies there to get our rocks off…the flirtation during dinner before heading to the overnight accommodations, the extended foreplay and sex, the “afterglow” to cuddle and continue foreplay until we’re both ready for round two…the ‘morning sex’ that is probably missing for a more traditional relationship…the hop in the shower for one more go-round prior to check-out and maybe even breakfast before you part ways…

    Can an escort get on SA and find a consistent source of income from a SD? YES, and I don’t fault her for trying…it’s just not what I want from a SB…and I’m not willing to compromise on that!

    Have I in the past on SA, yeah, when I first joined I had a couple of short-term situations where after our second intimate meeting I KNEW she was looking to get naked, get me off and get on to whatever else she had happening that day…none of them lasted past that second intimate encounter.

  180. ErikTheRed says:

    Nesting and nest-providing instincts are intrinsic to male and female psyche, especially for trust-building.

    Also, testosterone level is higher for men in the morning than late at night. Both partners are obviously more refreshed in the morning and less likely to be “tired” and reluctant.

  181. NubianSB says:

    DarkHorseSD says:
    April 8, 2015 at 10:12 am

    Ok, Nubian. Bookmarks. Could you make 4:30 or keep it 5pm?
    ———————————————————————-
    4:30 is perfect!

  182. NubianSB says:

    Denise says:
    April 8, 2015 at 10:00 am

    I’m curios why is it so important to spend night to morning? Honestly I don’t think that makes her an escort since escorts obviously have overnight rates. Are you really looking to tell ghost stories all night with a flash light under your chin?

    I find the overnight desire interesting since two SDs from this site mentioned overnight desires within a few days of each other just this past week. Is that a new thing?
    ——————————————————————
    I think it depends on the parties involved. From my POV, I see an SD/SB relationship as similar to a regular relationship with the difference being that both parties understand what’s in it for them e.g no strings, money exchanging hands etc. Everything else is the same so an overnight shouldn’t be an exception. It should be understood. However, if there’s no connection/chemistry then it becomes just sex which for me is a no go. Again, this is how i see it. It may be different from others’ POV.

  183. StruggleIsReal says:

    I can understand a SD wanting overnight, for sure. There is a definite level of intimacy involved with that and hello, morning sex! Well, middle of the night sex, and all in between, for that matter. Cuddling and waking to someone you care about are also not to be underestimated.
    Some wanting that seems normal to me. So does some not wanting it, and SBs offering or not offering it, too.

  184. DarkHorseSD says:

    Ok, Nubian. Bookmarks. Could you make 4:30 or keep it 5pm?

  185. Denise says:

    I’m curios why is it so important to spend night to morning? Honestly I don’t think that makes her an escort since escorts obviously have overnight rates. Are you really looking to tell ghost stories all night with a flash light under your chin?

    I find the overnight desire interesting since two SDs from this site mentioned overnight desires within a few days of each other just this past week. Is that a new thing?

  186. DarkHorseSD says:

    @Folks, it may be, she may be, a lot of things. I don’t care too much. I’m not married to her after all 😉

  187. Melissa/Josh'sProxy says:

    @ONSD
    Lol! Tumblr can be a really bad place to read up on this lifestyle. These so called SBs on there give bad advice. Maybe two out of every ten blogs had really good advice. Others were just showing off or giving unrealistic advice. One size doesn’t fit all when it comes to sugar

  188. NubianSB says:

    Melissa/Josh’sProxy says:
    April 8, 2015 at 8:31 am

    I wonder how these tumblr SBs can take pictures during dinner and such…doesn’t the SD notice or care? I never have my phone out, it just seems rude.
    ———————————————————————–
    Same goes for the SDs who post pics of themselves with SBs on their profile? Beats me!

  189. NubianSB says:

    DarkHorseSD says:
    April 8, 2015 at 8:41 am

    Here is very common real world situation ..

    My typical (perhaps average) SB is about 35. I’m seeing one a few years younger, 29, by Midwest standards Hot, by NYC standards attractive. Slim, petite. Good mind, good drive, worth being around (which is why I could dip down in age.)

    Arrangement discussed is evenings out, ie. Dinner, and overnight..

    So the typical part.. Each date she has come up with a reason to avoid the overnight part. Even showing she’d skip the longer fancier dinner, though shorter meal and hitting a couple of stores seems ok for her 😮

    So it comes down to 2-3 hours of a lesser date or just a hookup in her apartment for an hour. Now the whole backpage rate discussion starts to apply because she’s manipulated many of the dates down to that degree. For the other dates it’s less, but still partially applicable.

    Bottom line is when she asked for that scenario, I made a new offer in a lower range for less of a commitment from her. She accepted and we got started.
    ———————————————————————
    Is it possible she’s an escort? It may not just be that she’s not that into you but negotiating an escort arrangement without you the wiser?

  190. ErikTheRed says:

    Spot-on! @DarkHorse. The sweet spot is between overnight and move-in. Neither is lording over the other, yet the arrangement simulates the sharing of a commonwealth that is emotionally rewarding to both male and female psyche, without the legal and economic downside of actually running a mini commune (laziness, dependency, self-destructiveness and tyranny).

  191. NubianSB says:

    DarkHorseSD says:
    April 8, 2015 at 8:29 am

    Hi Nubian. I’m still waffling on location. West side 50s down to Times Square.
    ——————————————————————-
    You know I’m not very familiar with NYC lol. How about Bookmarks lounge? Or Top of the Strand?

  192. KeKe says:

    @Gentleman.. I was thinking the same… she’s not into you. Which I have to say, I can’t comprehend @Dark

  193. DarkHorseSD says:

    “That means she is just not into you.”

    Very likely. I give her my ‘you’re not into me, but this is what getting into you is worth’ rate. 😛

    Yeah, overnight is one possible big difference to escort style. Live in can be sweet, except when its sour. Trips. Long days together…

  194. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @gentleman – so what if they’re not into him…if he’s comfortable with the allowance and the activity, she’s comfortable with the allowance and the activity let them eat cake 😉

    It sounds like @DarkHorse isn’t settling for her, he’s letting her fill-in while he continues to look for someone comfortable with the overnights because he likes the activity…more power to him!

  195. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @DarkHorse – GREAT perspective! You have the needs you want to fill (number of overnights/dates) and you’re willing to accept one or more SBs to meet that need…I’m sure some will call you names for having more than one SB, but as long as each agreement is acceptable to the SB, there’s no need to discuss your added activities with them…just like if they don’t ask for more meetings, more allowance, etc., you’re not going to ask about the rest of HER life (until it impacts the agreement the two of you have).

    Thanks for these posts…it’s bringing some previous discussion into a different light that I’m hoping underscores the concept of an arrangement!

  196. Josh says:

    ROI = Return on Investment

  197. gentleman soul says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    “So it comes down to 2-3 hours of a lesser date or just a hookup in her apartment” That means she is just not into you. She wants her allowance as painlessly as possible and get you out the door . Many are like that . My top 3 LT SBs never balked at OverNights-2 were at their home. It was kinda domesticated . I would help with small chores ,etc . A little slice of real life. The ones who won’t do ONs I expect an escort experience -except she is not banging 10 guys /day .

  198. DarkHorseSD says:

    KeKe says:
    April 8, 2015 at 8:53 am
    @Dark.. do you think she has another SD?
    xxxxx
    With my methods, in this scenario, I don’t need to think about it. 😉

  199. DarkHorseSD says:

    OnlineNewbieSD says:
    April 8, 2015 at 8:50 am
    @DarkHorse – GREAT scenario…when she made you feel like you were seeing an escort, you offered her an escort rate…she accepted and both are happy. Maybe things will change and she’ll want a greater commitment…maybe you’ll continue your search for what you really want (the longer dates and overnights) and discontinue your agreement with her when you find it. At least you’re both understanding where you stand for what is happening!
    xxxxxxx
    That’s just about correct. I let the arrangement float with the girl’s decisions. I already have a once a week overnight. Would like 2, maybe three per week, so the other is a fill in for now. Let’s see who shows up. 😉

  200. DarkHorseSD says:

    Let me mention that the sb I refered to earlier had an arrangement to spend 5 days a month with an SD when he was in NYC for 2800. He stopped seeing her, ie. he chose to try other ladies for the allowance he could offer, because he could.

  201. DarkHorseSD says:

    I also want to say numbers out out yesterday, like $250 per time or 1,000-1,300 for once a week in mid level cost of living areas are very commonplace.

    One mentioned (I can’t take time to find it 1000 posts ago) twice a week overnights in the 3-4,000/mo range, and that can be had even in NYC. 5,000 is a layup for that here.

  202. KeKe says:

    @Dark.. do you think she has another SD?

  203. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Melissa – yeah…I actually think that’s where my SB’s question about trust came from…reading all the blogs and such…”it seems like you don’t trust me with money”…it’s only been A WEEK…undercut that sabotage with a discussion…we’re still on a VERY GOOD track!

  204. KeKe says:

    @Online.. thanks!

  205. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @DarkHorse – GREAT scenario…when she made you feel like you were seeing an escort, you offered her an escort rate…she accepted and both are happy. Maybe things will change and she’ll want a greater commitment…maybe you’ll continue your search for what you really want (the longer dates and overnights) and discontinue your agreement with her when you find it. At least you’re both understanding where you stand for what is happening!

  206. Melissa/Josh'sProxy says:

    @ONSD
    That’s what I was thinking. Most of these men want to be discreet and have your full attention. It’s just weird too see all these pictures.

  207. DarkHorseSD says:

    Here is very common real world situation ..

    My typical (perhaps average) SB is about 35. I’m seeing one a few years younger, 29, by Midwest standards Hot, by NYC standards attractive. Slim, petite. Good mind, good drive, worth being around (which is why I could dip down in age.)

    Arrangement discussed is evenings out, ie. Dinner, and overnight..

    So the typical part.. Each date she has come up with a reason to avoid the overnight part. Even showing she’d skip the longer fancier dinner, though shorter meal and hitting a couple of stores seems ok for her 😮

    So it comes down to 2-3 hours of a lesser date or just a hookup in her apartment for an hour. Now the whole backpage rate discussion starts to apply because she’s manipulated many of the dates down to that degree. For the other dates it’s less, but still partially applicable.

    Bottom line is when she asked for that scenario, I made a new offer in a lower range for less of a commitment from her. She accepted and we got started.

  208. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Melissa – I completely agree…if a SB starts to pull her phone out regularly, it’s a sign she’s not that into things with me.

    I also make it pretty clear that pictures are a “no-go” unless it’s with MY camera/phone…as a married SD, there’s nothing getting public unless I choose to make it public by sharing with her later!

  209. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @KeKe – ROI is Return On Investment…meaning she’s getting an education in a field that should provide a good return in earning potential.

  210. Melissa/Josh'sProxy says:

    I wonder how these tumblr SBs can take pictures during dinner and such…doesn’t the SD notice or care? I never have my phone out, it just seems rude.

  211. KeKe says:

    @Josh..what is ROI?

  212. DarkHorseSD says:

    Hi Nubian. I’m still waffling on location. West side 50s down to Times Square.

  213. Josh says:

    I don’t think that the profile posted by @Lettuce is fake. I see such profiles all the times. At least this one is a decent-looking gal and with potentially high ROI education going for her

  214. Promise says:

    Have a break between classes so here I am.

  215. KeKe says:

    Morning Nubian! Hope you have a great afternoon 😉

    Good Morning everyone!

  216. NubianSB says:

    Good Morning everyone!

  217. StruggleIsReal says:

    “…absolutely NO sex policy”…
    Wow, as a culture we have shamed the actual procreation of our own species so far into a corner, there are multiple “policies” against it.
    If that is a legit profile, she needs to get the fuck off this site. Go find a friend to no t have sex with, you don’t need this site. So many delusional and messed up people, I swear.

  218. Promise says:

    @LUBC I feel inclined to believe that you made that up because of how ridiculous it is.

  219. LettuceBeCereal says:

    Take a look at this profile: e48fb7dd
    Expectation: Substantial
    “I’m not looking for anything serious at all and I have an absolutely NO sex policy! I’m also interested in someone willing to pay me an allowance in return for great company and a good laugh!”

    I thought April fools was over?

  220. Promise says:

    Insomnia is finally letting me sleep. :,D

  221. FunDude says:

    Got to hit the bed soon. Working in the AM.

    Got to make my chump change salary lol

    I need to get a Kenna full time job salary which is like 3 million/year

  222. StruggleIsReal says:

    @FunDude
    From what I understand, it is a local Chicago beer. Sexy is the unofficial/should-be-official mascot for it!

    @Sexy
    Yeah! I’m so excited!

  223. FunDude says:

    Which one is old style again?

  224. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Sexy – make sure drummer knows Wrigley is in disarray because of the remodel…it might not be as great as it should be for a first visit!!!

  225. sexyrockstar says:

    I love this. All friends meeting up! Old style is a must. You’re all going to hate it but it’s my issshhhh.

  226. StruggleIsReal says:

    @FlyR
    “Rather than Perfect Arrangement I think a friendly or even professional guide and coach would be priceless for young women thinking of being involved in SA.
    Would be a perfect job for a stay at home mom – she could manage the accounts of a few SDs and SB s searching , introducing and filtering….. turning the prospects over with recommendations. My guess is that someone like struggle could sift through prospects about 20 times the speed of someone just starting.”

    I wouldn’t mind such an occupation at all, a few hours a day. I’m flattered you think I have decent judgement, Sir.

    @Promise
    Ugh with the “uncle”! I don’t like you being exposed to all that… Wish he would get the boot!!

    @Erik
    “@Denise,
    McDonald’s is the largest restaurant corporation in the world. It makes far more money every year than even the most expensive Italian restaurant in NYC. If it is money for food that you want, the McDonald’s model is the way to go, just like escorts.
    Even the patrons to the most expensive Italian restaurant still wants food. Of course they appreciate the ambience, presentation, color, smell and the sizzle. . . And pay for all of that to keep the fancy Italian restaurant in busienss. None of them would show up if the restaurant sells only presentation and smell while refusing to sell the food! If you want to fault the restaurant patrons for wanting food at all, then I guess you will have to work the job where you ask “do you want fries with that?” instead of asking “how would you like your steak done?” and get tipped generously for good service.”

    Wow, what a good metaphor.

    @PI Wolf
    Good, so glad we are all able to learn. Less fighting and harassing would be nice but… le sigh.

    @Sexy
    Ain’t no one hotter than you. Stop it.

  227. FunDude says:

    Situation meets the Gazillionaire:

    {{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5XIbhQYHqw}}

  228. StruggleIsReal says:

    @ONSD
    I’m so down! I move this weekend!!! Eeeeek I’m so excited! Okay so give me like a week or so to get settled in and back on my feet after fucking GB until my special places needs a minor break. hehe
    But yes. I say we all oughtta have a nice out?! In the process of looking at sofas now, but as soon as we have one, any one of you are allowed to crash (with SD/SB)! Then we can get brunch and bloody mary’s / mimosas the next morning. Or even Old Style’s, as per Sexy’s preference! Hair of the dog!

  229. FunDude says:

    Where sexy?

  230. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @FunDude – if you can meet @Sexy and drummer…do it…they are GREAT!

  231. DarkHorseSD says:

    Having an MBA from Chicago IS having connections.

  232. sexyrockstar says:

    @fun
    Meet us for drinks on Sunday!

  233. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Sexy – hahahahahaha…he was excited for Spring Break with you as well…good luck…have fun…oh, and he was down for a get together @Struggle — let’s make it happen!!!!!

  234. FunDude says:

    @Promise

    Worked out for over an hour tonight. Was posting from my iPhone on this blog between sets lol

  235. sexyrockstar says:

    @Josh
    @online

    Thanks loves.
    Drummer is fantastic and I thank god every day for him. I’m seeing him tomorrow. Gonna suck that ddddddd.

  236. FunDude says:

    Got to keep the speech low brow for all the “homies” in here.

    Don’t want to sound too intellectual lol

  237. FunDude says:

    This is going to start interfering with my work lol. Like a kid in a candy shop. Going to be worse after starting MBA lol

  238. FunDude says:

    Got too many dates setup this week after work. This place is starting to interfere with my other shit.

    Have to finish my taxes and got like 5 dates setup almost everyday this week.

    1) Hot 19 y/o off of SA for hibachi Wednesday
    2) Hot 23 y/o off of POF for drinks on Thursday
    3) Cute 31 y/o RN met off of POF for Friday
    4) Another 23 y/o law student off Matchmaker site this weekend

    Also speaking to another 31 y/o off of SA. She looks quite cute. I am down for 31 y/o women that keep themselves in shape, are nice to get along with, cute, etc.

    Got to see who clicks. This is why its so hard to pay an “allowance” to women who aren’t at this level.

    The vast majority of these women (including SA women) are down for vacations, hanging out, etc without an official “allowance” but just gifts, etc.

  239. Promise says:

    I wonder how long FunDude works out for to get arms like that?

  240. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – yes…@Sexy deserves all she gets and more…she was a RIOT at lunch, made my new SB feel completely comfortable and relaxed about Sugar and meeting another couple from the Bowl…I think she’d be AWESOME if we could get a Sugar Party together in Chicago or SW Michigan…Just a BLAST!!!!!

  241. Josh says:

    @sexyrockstar

    “I’m so much more than just a pretty face and a great lay. I know of girls who are way hotter then I am that can’t keep a sugar daddy, nor see the type of allowances I get.”

    I think that you are a riot of a company and deserve every last penny you get as part of the allowance, and much more if the SD can afford it.

  242. Josh says:

    Threesome with two bushes is better than a singing bird in a cage.

  243. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Promise – family is fine…just a higher priority than blogging when I’m at home…just like business is a higher priority when I’m in the office.

    @Sexy – drummer’s great…you’re a VERY lucky girl 😉

  244. Promise says:

    @ONSD Is your family OK?

  245. Fundude says:

    @online

    Good post while I’m working out at the gym to read lol

    Denise and batshit are analogous to the fat nerdy dude that claims he’s banging tens nonstop.

    They can’t be taken seriously. We all know the don’t get much.

  246. DarkHorseSD says:

    gentleman soul says:
    April 7, 2015 at 1:48 pm
    @KeKe

    Actually it’s a bird in the hand is worth more than “2” in the bush.Lol
    OOOR -A bush in the hand is worth more than a bird
    ——
    The question here is ‘what’s a bird that will put her bush in your hands worth?’

  247. Josh says:

    @ONSD

    @Denise-theEscort and @LadyScarlett-batshit are not generating any real money at SA. Their “game” is pissing contest.

  248. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Denise & @Scarlett –

    Listen…family life kept me away from blog to respond in a timely fashion…let me summarize…I’m OFFENDED that the two of you pick portions of posts to try to accuse SDs on here of splenda lifestyles when all you EVER do is pump unrealistic expectations into SBs by talking about men who will pay THOUSANDS of dollars for a first meet, or will continue to pay for a non-mutual relationship that is long-distance but still pays you thousands…

    I have paid allowances without sex…but it doesn’t START that way for me…even @Josh has said he’s paid an allowance to a SB who was a riot…but there MUST be something mutual, or it’s not a “mutually beneficial” relationship.

    I didn’t say I STOP at $250 a week, I said I START at $250 a week…when someone proves they are in this for the relationship I want, I have no problem raising the gift-giving, the allowance, whatever…but I’m NOT going to flush money down the toilet…that’s not how you accumulate assets, that’s how you continue to be a part of the wasted and exploited middle class.

    My starting point has NOTHING to do with how many jobs she has when we meet for coffee at Panera or Starbucks or a local coffee joint for a first meet…BUT…it has EVERYTHING to do with her work ethic, her perceived appreciation of my added support to her life, her initiative to keep her life together and gives me an idea where she might want her life to go in the future…as I’ve said before, I’m NOT going to be giving hand-outs…I’m giving hand-ups to empowered women…I have ZERO interest in ANY woman who’s bitchy, entitled, princess attitude has kept her at home with god-knows-how-may kids from how many baby-daddies when she was giving herself away to the wasted-gamer-losers…in fact, if she has three jobs and is going to school, it would probably get me to the higher allowance/gift/whatever even quicker, because I see the drive and motivation…

    For EITHER of you to call me and some of the other SDs on blog anything but generous is preposterous…even @FunDude has said when he finds a woman who matches his desires, he is generous…to call any one of us out for anything but the same picky standards you espouse the SBs have when they look for the 10k dream is hypocritical.

    BOTH of you can just sit your asses down and shut the fuck up, because your perspective is going off the deep end…when was the last time either of you were looking on SA for a SD anyways? I know @Josh, me and @FunDude have been searching actively…bitching about quality…recently rejoicing in an upswing in quality…

    If you’re going to call the current standard for a non-metro STARTING point at $250 per visit or per week or per year splenda or insignificant you’re perspective is distorted.

    Finally, I’ve used the perspective for that of a STUDENT…if I were meeting someone IRL, or if I were looking for a non-student SB, my standards would be different…if I wanted an “equal” or someone near my age, there would be a SIGNIFICANT difference in what I was offering as a starting point…but I’m NOT going to bring that up on blog, since we originally started talking about the student perspective.

    Okay…I think I’ve said my piece…so far…when I submit, I’ll probably get just as pissed at the more recent posts that accumulated while I was typing this between caring for my family…

  249. Fundude says:

    @vit

    There are job opening for medical consulting at places like McKinsey Bain etc. They basically want a top MBA in addition the an MD with board certification and preferably some clinical experience practicing.

    An MBA is essential for these positions to get in. It is also very important if one wants to become a higher up at a top hospital system.

    There are other lateral moves the MBA can do from a top program.

    I’m writing off half the expense for business, so it basically costs me half since I’d lose 50 percent of that income to tax anyway

  250. Josh says:

    @VitesseSD

    “As for getting fired, depends on the place I suppose. With some places graduates start with a guarantee that they’ll be fired or moved into such a shitty job that they’ll quit if they don’t perform. Sure they’re not told this, but its the truth.”

    I don’t know what that means.

    An employer is not required to guide your career. The employer is filling spots to get certain work done. It is the “job” of the employee to figure out how to use his current gig to leapfrog to the next gig of his liking. If he does not do that, then it is not the employer’s fault.

  251. sexyrockstar says:

    @beth
    I currently have 11 tattoos and I just took out my nose stud.

    I had both nipples peirced and my lip…(if you catch my drift)
    I would never get them done again. My nose…. maybe. Not sure

  252. VitesseSD says:

    @Josh

    “HOWEVER, it is ALWAYS about “foot in the door”. Once your foot is in the door, you have to work really hard to get fired, like going against your boss, not getting along with peers, messing with HR policies, etc.”

    I’ll agree with the foot in the door bit, but some undergrad degrees will do it too. As for getting fired, depends on the place I suppose. With some places graduates start with a guarantee that they’ll be fired or moved into such a shitty job that they’ll quit if they don’t perform. Sure they’re not told this, but its the truth.

    @KennaKenna

    You’re more or less proving my point for me. The MBA degree in particular holds little weight, its evidence of getting into and through a good school but thats it. There are usually other more specialized degrees that are preferred.

    @FunDude
    Your valuable degree is your MD, always will be. The MBA would get you a management job at a hospital, but only because you already have the MD.

  253. KennaKenna says:

    @Beth

    Yes I have a small bump now, it’s growing everyday. I workout 4 times a week and do yoga the other 3 days- I really want to be fit while pregnant. I also eat all organic now and use organic everything from my hairspray to my toothpaste.

  254. KennaKenna says:

    @Vitesse

    I set my own hours, I was required to work 25-28 hours per week. It turned out, once the work was done- the hours didn’t matter. I have a really good memory(when numbers are involved) and would sometimes memorize an entire 10Q so I could quickly input the data into the model and finish in half the time another seasoned analyst/associate would.

    The guys used to actually call me the excel queen because I could always find the error in a excel document that contained 35+ worksheets. My man is still amazed at what I can do in excel and often comes to me to show him how to do a complex pivot table/v-lookup.

  255. VitesseSD says:

    @FunDude

    I totally understand where you’re coming from. However I cant tell you more, I might as well write my full name here in big bold letters if I did.

  256. KennaKenna says:

    @Vitesse

    LOL. I did do a basic financial modeling course in my MBA but that’s all I used(had to do more courses on my own). Also, MBA courses can sometimes be a lot of regurgitation if you did a business-related undergrad but a good MBA gets you through the door.

    Most of my knowledge and the way I attack quant problems is because of stuff I learned in my PhD program. The MBA was a walk in the park compared to the PhD (still working on dissertation).

  257. Josh says:

    @VitesseSD

    You are correct about the MBA curriculum. It is largely bullshit. One can spend few weeks or months reading and internalizing all that stuff.

    HOWEVER, it is ALWAYS about “foot in the door”. Once your foot is in the door, you have to work really hard to get fired, like going against your boss, not getting along with peers, messing with HR policies, etc.

    The fact of life is that certain jobs are off limit if you don’t have high school diploma, college degree, advanced degree, MBA/MD/JD/Phd/Etc. Yet other jobs are off limit unless you have certain degrees from specific schools. It is what it is.

  258. FunDude says:

    @Vit

    Talk is cheap. I can tell Kenna is telling the truth considering her educational background and other facts.

    We can’t confirm anything for you besides your bravado.

    Not trying to call you out but I can’t confirm anything you say

  259. VitesseSD says:

    @FunDude

    “300K is pretty fucking good for a 7am to 2pm job that works 4 days a week lol”

    I’ll just say I’d never accept a job that paid that for those hours.

  260. KennaKenna says:

    @Promise

    A professor- I wanted to stay in Academia and that’s still where I want to end up. I will be teach this summer at a top tier uni out here, but undergrads lol and then hopefully a more permanent position for next fall.

    My man is currently a guest lecturer at the same uni, and will start teaching grad students once per week from this fall.

  261. BethSB says:

    KennaKenna says:
    April 7, 2015 at 5:16 pm
    @FunDude

    To be fair, sometimes I did go back in around 6-7pm to get work done and it was 300k+, I missed 400 by 17k.

    @Beth

    Just the belly and ears. I actually stopped wearing the belly ring for years and recently started back last summer. I put the ring back in on Saturday to see if it would feel weird now that my belly is bigger but no, feels just the same.
    …………………………………………………
    Lmao @ Belly is bigger. Yea okay, i don’t see that belly you speak of.
    I had my belly pierced a few times years ago but i took it out a very long time ago.
    Now it’s just my ears and my tongue.
    I’m addicted to piercing and tattoos, although i just have 3 tats. Contemplating whether i should get my totem tatted on and my nipps pierced.

  262. VitesseSD says:

    @KennaKenna

    Makes sense I suppose

    So, out of curiosity, when was the last time you were asked to do or had to do anything related to your MBA?

  263. KennaKenna says:

    @FunDude

    To be fair, sometimes I did go back in around 6-7pm to get work done and it was 300k+, I missed 400 by 17k.

    @Beth

    Just the belly and ears. I actually stopped wearing the belly ring for years and recently started back last summer. I put the ring back in on Saturday to see if it would feel weird now that my belly is bigger but no, feels just the same.

  264. Promise says:

    @Kenna When you were in school what did you want to be?

  265. FunDude says:

    300K is pretty fucking good for a 7am to 2pm job that works 4 days a week lol

  266. BethSB says:

    Other than @Kenna who else has piercing? And @Kenna is that your only one? (Belly ring)

  267. KennaKenna says:

    @Vitesse

    I know 300k is not stunning but I only worked 4 days per week (7am-2pm). I’ve always said I don’t do sugar for the money but because I like successful, dominant men who enjoys taking care of their woman.

  268. VitesseSD says:

    @FunDude
    Cant talk about it.
    @KennaKenna
    An entry level doctor is still an entry level doctor, sure after an internship in a high paying specialty he could make half a million a year, but its still entry level.

    In the financial sectors 300k is well, not stunning.

    It does lead me to a question though, why go the sugar route if you’re making that kind of money part time?

  269. KennaKenna says:

    @Fundude

    LOLOL!

  270. FunDude says:

    @Kenna

    No you didn’t. Everyone knows MBAs from Chicago are unemployed.

    Don’t make up shit around here!

  271. KennaKenna says:

    @Vitesse

    At that firm, it’s not entry level but okay(Funds normally do not work like how I-banking does). I took home 300k+ last year and that was part-time, which is more than the average salary for 90% of people.

  272. BethSB says:

    sexyrockstar says:
    April 7, 2015 at 4:37 pm
    @beth
    Being curvy has it’s perks but it’s annoying to find clothes. I just stick to dresses. Lol.

    Living in Chicago, I still wear dresses even in the snow.
    ……………………………………………………………………
    I was sharing my routine with the girls earlier.
    I love clothing and it is a hassle when you have to resort to one type of clothes. it sucks! lol

  273. FunDude says:

    @Vit

    What kind of consulting do you do?

    Maybe in your type of consulting there is no value in an MBA.

    I know for an MD that wants to work at a Bain, McKinsey, etc, they should have an MBA from a top school.

  274. VitesseSD says:

    @KennaKenna

    Thats entry level. Its not mail room, but its entry level.

  275. KennaKenna says:

    As I said I understand your point, my man introduced me to one of the top partners at the fund so I had an in.

  276. VitesseSD says:

    @FunDude

    Sorry its hard to get more into what I do without doing the equivalent of posting my full name on here.

  277. KennaKenna says:

    @Vitesse

    I was a Quantitative Associate but only worked PT because I was still in school.

  278. BethSB says:

    @BethSB

    You look like you could disembowl a guy with those nails.

    I never understood that look tbh.
    ……………………………………………………………………..

    lmao maybe i can. hahahaha but my nails aren’t pointed, they’re rounded off and FYI they’re my real nails.

  279. sexyrockstar says:

    @beth
    Being curvy has it’s perks but it’s annoying to find clothes. I just stick to dresses. Lol.

    Living in Chicago, I still wear dresses even in the snow.

  280. VitesseSD says:

    @BethSB

    You look like you could disembowl a guy with those nails.

    I never understood that look tbh.

  281. BethSB says:

    VitesseSD says:
    April 7, 2015 at 4:26 pm
    @BethSB

    Jesus those are some scary claws.
    ……………………………………………………….

    What’s scary about them?

  282. BethSB says:

    sexyrockstar says:
    April 7, 2015 at 4:22 pm
    I’m boobs and ass.
    Full c cup. They don’t sag. I have no idea how on the account I had two kids.

    And my butt. It’s. Huge. I can’t help it.

    This baby got back.
    ……………………………………………………………………
    Biggest problem is finding bottoms that really fit. I have to buy a bigger bottom and most of the times the waist doesn’t fit because it’s too big.
    It hugs the butt but not the waist. so i have to take my pants to a tailor or seamstress and get it altered at the waist. such an inconvenience.

  283. VitesseSD says:

    @KennaKenna

    What was your title?

  284. KennaKenna says:

    But I get what you’re saying @Vitesse.

  285. VitesseSD says:

    @BethSB

    Jesus those are some scary claws.

  286. KennaKenna says:

    @Vitesse

    I didn’t get an entry-level position either.

  287. BethSB says:

    FunDude says:
    April 7, 2015 at 4:05 pm
    @Beth

    I can appreciate nice butts and tits lol Keep up the good work
    ………………………………………………………………..

    Not all of us but we’re many. lol and it’s Guyana.

  288. VitesseSD says:

    @KennaKenna

    “At the fund I worked at, 3 partners interviewed me- not HR, all they did was handle my paperwork!”

    1. As a top school graduate you met the HR gates for entry level work. Next come interviews.
    2. You’re female. Companies are constantly being told they dont have enough female management, of course they were going to give you a shot.
    3. You made it or failed on your own once you were there.

    If you hadn’t been female, or messed up in some way you would have gotten the boot.

    ]http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikaandersen/2013/07/27/why-spending-150k-on-an-mba-is-probably-a-dumb-idea/[
    “I know way too many MBAs who can’t manage or lead their way out of a paper bag – and still think they’re the bomb because…well, because they have an MBA.”

    That more or less sums it up.

  289. sexyrockstar says:

    I’m boobs and ass.
    Full c cup. They don’t sag. I have no idea how on the account I had two kids.

    And my butt. It’s. Huge. I can’t help it.

    This baby got back.

  290. FunDude says:

    @Beth

    Which country are you from in South America? Do all women have asses and tits in that country? LOL

  291. BethSB says:

    With this gravatar you’ll notice what i’m talking about @Fundude and @SexyRS
    It’s the butt which holds all the lbs

  292. Promise says:

    @Sexy Same. 140 was my original goal, but after seeing Beth..whoa.

  293. KennaKenna says:

    @Vitesse

    At the fund I worked at, 3 partners interviewed me- not HR, all they did was handle my paperwork!

  294. BethSB says:

    sexyrockstar says:
    April 7, 2015 at 4:02 pm
    @beth
    You’re thin. 120 is my goal weight.

    You have a great body. Wweeerrrrkkkk itttt.

    @fundude
    Would you put me in bbw category?
    ……………………………………………………………………

    @SexyRS thanks baby girl. i do try to keep it tight at all times. Muah!

    ………………………………………………………………….

    FunDude says:
    April 7, 2015 at 4:05 pm
    @Beth

    I can appreciate nice butts and tits lol Keep up the good work
    ………………………………………………………………

    I’m not going to even lie to you but it’s mostly genetic. All my sisters and my mother posses these hips and thighs but not all of em posses the toned stomach. lol thats my gift to me.

  295. VitesseSD says:

    @FunDude

    “What field of work are you in?”

    Consulting.

  296. FunDude says:

    Sexy isn’t a BBW

  297. FunDude says:

    Differences between men and women:

    {{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTOFXLl7eh4}}

  298. FunDude says:

    Maybe MBAs can’t get jobs in high paying jobs anymore. I am not totally sure.

    Some people talk like Vit but then I read the avg Wall Street Salary with Bonus is like 360K.

    I can’t believe MBAs from top schools aren’t at least “average” on Wall Street

  299. VitesseSD says:

    @KennaKenna
    “Universities may not impress you but it sure does impress employers ;-)”

    @FunDude
    “Unless you are hiring for hedge funds/ Private Equity/ Investment Banks/ Consulting/ Management Positions in Hospitals/ Drug Companies/ etc, who really cares if you are “impressed” or not.
    Your opinion would be irrelevant compared to those people doing that hiring.”

    @Kenna
    No it impresses HR weenies, gets your foot in the door for a short trial, and nobody gives a damn what you were taught in the program. HR does not determine who stays.

    @FunDude
    You’re right my opinion would be irrelevant.

  300. FunDude says:

    @Beth

    I can appreciate nice butts and tits lol Keep up the good work

  301. FunDude says:

    @Vit

    What field of work are you in?

  302. Josh says:

    Where is FatB’StardSA Proxy?

  303. sexyrockstar says:

    @beth
    You’re thin. 120 is my goal weight.

    You have a great body. Wweeerrrrkkkk itttt.

    @fundude
    Would you put me in bbw category?

  304. FunDude says:

    @Vit

    The hospital VPs make over 500K/year near me and the CEO makes 4 million/year for the hospital.

    Better than many MDs

  305. Muah says:

    @Kenna
    I know what you were saying :)!! I went to a local college because that’s what I could afford. I was bored to tears. It took everything in me to complete my degree. I can’t push myself to do something – no matter how good the money would be – if I am not truly passionate about it. How can I fork out a ton of money on something I’ll probably hate in 10 years… Anyways, I want to make a living off my artistic abilities. However, I am a class act multi-tasker with a bad case of procrastination… I start 5 things, get bored, and maybe go back a month later to pick up where I left off.

  306. BethSB says:

    FunDude says:
    April 7, 2015 at 3:51 pm
    @Beth

    Look big from the pics from with I see.

    And men are VISUAL
    ……………………………………………………………..
    hahahahahahahaha Angle, it’s the angle and the bra @Fundude

  307. VitesseSD says:

    @FunDude

    Depends on what you want to do really.

    For an MD, yeah you could become a hospital administrator, but that’d be a pay cut.

    CEO of a medical company? Got connections? If not you’re better off starting your own.

    The world is drowning in MBAs, even from good schools.

  308. FunDude says:

    @VitSD

    Unless you are hiring for hedge funds/ Private Equity/ Investment Banks/ Consulting/ Management Positions in Hospitals/ Drug Companies/ etc, who really cares if you are “impressed” or not.

    Your opinion would be irrelevant compared to those people doing that hiring.

  309. FunDude says:

    @Beth

    Look big from the pics from with I see.

    And men are VISUAL

  310. KennaKenna says:

    @Vitesse

    Universities may not impress you but it sure does impress employers ;-).

  311. LadyScarlett says:

    @funnyduddy, you should talk to struggles, her boyfriend currently goes to University of Chicago, and is in MBA program. One of my good friends went there as well…

  312. Promise says:

    @FunDude I’m all the way in Massachusetts.

  313. BethSB says:

    FunDude says:
    April 7, 2015 at 3:46 pm
    Beth has a big ass and big tits, ergo her weight is appropriate for her height.

    It looks good on her.
    ……………………………………………………………………….

    @FunDude thanks much babe. But again on the boobs, they’re small and perky not big. lol they only look that way.

  314. VitesseSD says:

    @Kenna

    I’m honestly not too impressed with universities. Getting into good schools is a good indicator, but for most subjects its a waste of time.

  315. BethSB says:

    I had to replace the decimals. the site just took all that info out. @Vit

  316. FunDude says:

    @Kenna

    Maybe I shouldn’t do an MBA. Im getting nervous if its worth it.

    VItSD has taught me that an MBA is useless and there is no value for employment.

  317. KeKe says:

    I’m hips, ass, and a little belly. ..damn I got lucky.. I’m on my way to thank him. Later peeps!

  318. KennaKenna says:

    @Muah

    I know but I’m just saying education may be a plus to some well-educated men.

  319. FunDude says:

    Beth has a big ass and big tits, ergo her weight is appropriate for her height.

    It looks good on her.

  320. BethSB says:

    BMI Categories:
    Underweight = < 18'5
    Normal weight = 18.5– 24'9
    Overweight = 25– 29'9
    Obesity = BMI of 30 or greater

  321. BethSB says:

    @Vit I hear you hun. well it’s a good thing you’re not offering then.

  322. FunDude says:

    @Promise

    Do you want to trade profiles? Are you close to Michigan? LOL

  323. BethSB says:

    @Vit my BMI of 21.6 states that i am within normal range.

    Since your BMI is categorize in this order.
    BMI Categories
    Underweight = 30 or greater

  324. Promise says:

    *Denise (why do I keep hitting “m”?)

  325. VitesseSD says:

    @Beth

    “hahaha well i’m surely NOT obese. nor am i on the heavy side for my height.
    And being fit is far different from being skinny my Dear.”

    Every guy knows that. Still allowance wise that isnt that far off from what I’d offer.

  326. Promise says:

    @Demise “As I said to you before and I’ll say it again since you’re hard of hearing.”
    But we’re typing…’-‘

  327. KennaKenna says:

    @Vitesse

    Actually all the major financials/investment backs came to UChicago long before I graduated to recruit. It all depends on where you do your MBA. You usually do not have a problem with a MBA from a top tier school, the same with a law degree from Ivy League/Stanford/Top Tier.

  328. Muah says:

    @KennaKenna
    Well you are a regular girlfriend/fiance – it’s a completely different scenario for you. He shouldn’t even have to remind people that you have a good education…

  329. FunDude says:

    @Kenna

    VitSD tells me an MBA from University of Chicago means shit. You will be unemployed.

    Ergo, you have no potential to make money. VitSD taught me this knowledge. Might have to drop out of the executive MBA program.

    @Denise

    Anyone can claim anything. The problem with you making BOLD and unsubstantiated claims is when other SBs read your bullshit and try to replicate it.

    They find out quickly that you are full of it when they don’t do well. This leads to a lot of bitter SBs because they took advise from someone who is lying.

    Bold claims require verification. Without that, no one should really listen to you.

  330. KeKe says:

    @Promise. Stop crushing on Fun dude’s gravator..yes, I know. It can hypnotize. Lol

    @PI..The man is definitely making me poor! I feel like voting Republican!

  331. Muah says:

    FunDude
    Duh – Hence why I said I got what you were alluding too lol

    @Vitesse
    I’m all tits and ass… Maybe…

  332. BethSB says:

    @Vit hahaha well i’m surely NOT obese. nor am i on the heavy side for my height.
    And being fit is far different from being skinny my Dear.

  333. KennaKenna says:

    Fundude is right to a certain extent, my man does not forgot to tell his friends and their wives about my education lol and the potential I have to make lots of money. It’s almost like saying I did not just go pick up a young woman half my age to spoil, she is actually very intelligent, way smarter than any of your wives.

    I once asked him if I just had an Associates from community college, if things would be the same. He told me the question was stupid since I wouldn’t be the same person at all- my intelligence, comprehension and my analytical skills are a part of who I am- a part that made him fall in love with me.

  334. VitesseSD says:

    @BethSb

    “Well that’s me in my Gravatar. i’m all hips and ass.
    But i understand that people who hear my height and my weight think i’m a bit on the heavy side for my height. but i cant help it, these hips do’t lie.”

    The problem is every obese/overweight woman thinks its all tits and ass.

  335. Denise says:

    @Dud

    @Batshit

    Notice how you don’t mention your “degree” or where you got it from.

    Also waiting on your height and weight?

    What makes you so valuable to be worth 1000/meet when there are literally hundreds of SBs in your OWN AREA that are in their 20s, far hotter than you, etc that are willing to meet for far less?

    Thats illogical.

    Ergo, it isn’t happening. You are just speaking nonsense for the gullible.

    ____________________________________________________________________________

    As I said to you before and I’ll say it again since you’re hard of hearing. I’m not here seeking validation from Blog SDs. So nope I will not post pictures, stats or the like. I’m not here to prove myself to some mangina whining about boy problems in every post. Now please do get back to your Men Going The Wrong Way rants. At least you’re consistent with that nonsense.

    That prove yourself or you’re not real shit doesn’t work on me you clown.
    _____________________________________________________________________________

    @ PI wolf

    Thank you:)

    I believe if members stated that their disposable income has taken a hit SBs wouldn’t be as offended by their offers. The ” hey take this or you’re delusional” is what’s really giving SBs a sour taste.

    I realized I spent far too much time on this blog:)

  336. FunDude says:

    @Vit

    I guess Kenna can’t get a job then lol. She’s FUCKED

    @Muah

    You should understand the analogy. Its pretty obvious lol

    @Promise

    Aww thanks

  337. Josh says:

    @Denise-theEscort

    “SBs that get these low offers aren’t think wow how generous of him to want to take up 6 hours of my day and throw me $200. Hell a woman that does phone sex brings in more.”

    I bet you know how to make money in phone sex too.

  338. LadyScarlett says:

    Actually, funnyduddy, I choose not to put my profile(never have), or anymore identifying information up than I aleady have, in past, due to my desire for discretion(and certain crazy people on blog)…I have shared this information with certain people from the blog, however. If you would like, I can email you privately, ‘my stats’ and what college(s) I attended…since you seem to be so interested…I still think i will charge you $250 for the information, though. hehe

  339. BethSB says:

    VitesseSD says:
    April 7, 2015 at 3:21 pm
    @BethSB hrm, yes it does seem broken in your case

    2500 or so

    the problem is its hard to tell if a woman your height / weight is fit or not based on numbers
    …………………………………………………………………
    Well that’s me in my Gravatar. i’m all hips and ass.
    But i understand that people who hear my height and my weight think i’m a bit on the heavy side for my height. but i cant help it, these hips do’t lie.

  340. Muah says:

    Also Fundude
    Yes I get what you are alluding to lol

  341. VitesseSD says:

    @FunDude

    “Think of this as a job market situation:

    You have two candidates

    Candidate one: MBA from University of Chicago, good attitude and a go getter. He asks for 150K/year starting for a job.

    Candidate Two: undergrad degree from local community college in diversity studies, extremely overweight and has a hostile attitude. He DEMANDS 250K/year starting because he “knows his worth”.”

    Trick question, he’s in America. With an MBA he’ll be lucky to get a job at McDonalds without connections.

    Neither get the job.

  342. Muah says:

    FunDude
    What difference does it make if she’s a sugar baby? Most sugar relationships do not turn into real relationships. What do you want to employ your sugar baby??? I thought sugar relationships were based on chemistry, wants/needs – who cares if a sugar baby has a degree and from what school if she makes you happy.

    Also just because someone has a degree from a reputable college doesn’t mean they’re not some piece of shit person. Often times the best people come from humble beginnings and don’t always have access to top colleges.

    Who goes in for an interview with a hostile attitude. Lol silly…

  343. Promise says:

    @FunDude Honestly, you’d probably get me for that price.

  344. Jj says:

    OnLine for what it’s worth, I undeerstand what it is you are stating in your process of supporting your pot SB. just say’n !!!!!!!! or !!! ….. i forget?

  345. KennaKenna says:

    Let’s remember my man is twice my age and I’ve always treated him like my man- and not my SD. I do not ask for anything or make him feel like an ATM not even in the beginning stages.

    I genuinely wanted him, longed for him and only him. I was available whenever he wanted and gladly so. Most SBs are counting down the time before they can leave their SD, I was always counting down the time until I could see him.

    I did not even entertain other men who admired me, some were tests from him(yes, he tested me- I found out after lol), just because I was sooo hooked on him.

    I’ve always told my SDs I was looking for love, and even though sex needs to be involved because I absolutely crave sex, I wouldn’t be ready to be intimate until we had that emotional connection. I also said I didn’t need cash but enjoyed being the girlfriend of a powerful, successful man.

  346. gentleman soul says:

    @Allowances
    Are set by Gifters(the men or SDs) based on two factors :

    1)ability to pay(excess income after necessary costs are covered) ,and
    2)perceived value of the payee

    Contrary to popular opinion amongst the angry,underappreciated Sugars (not all mind you) guys do not try to cheat an SB out of her just due . We try to make our budget fit our tastes .It’s simple . There are exceptions to every rule of course. My budget limits me at this time of life to $250/week due to multiple factors including economy downturn ,etc so I try to find a Sugar who will fit in that category. I don’t wake up wondering how I can chisel my SB down to $150. In fact I work hard at managing my affairs in such a way as to increase it over time . I have paid much more ,as well as less ,and I have not found the dollar amount to equate to quality of experience .The sweet spot for me is $250. My favorite long term SBs have been fine with that number,and are all college grads and working in jobs they love .

    Quality of SB experience will make a man open his wallet faster than anything . If you are sweet ,loving ,kind,appreciative,attractive,fun ,sexual, and happy a Daddy will trip over himself to pay more than he can afford .

  347. FunDude says:

    @Denise

    Kenna is in her mid 20s. What are you talking about

    @Batshit

    Yeah thought so. I called your dumbass out and can clearly proven you are full of shit.

    Notice how you’re afraid to answer any of these questions about yourself because we all know the reality.

  348. VitesseSD says:

    @BethSB hrm, yes it does seem broken in your case

    2500 or so

    the problem is its hard to tell if a woman your height / weight is fit or not based on numbers

  349. FunDude says:

    Think of this as a job market situation:

    You have two candidates

    Candidate one: MBA from University of Chicago, good attitude and a go getter. He asks for 150K/year starting for a job.

    Candidate Two: undergrad degree from local community college in diversity studies, extremely overweight and has a hostile attitude. He DEMANDS 250K/year starting because he “knows his worth”.

    Which one will get the job (assuming no connections)?

  350. LadyScarlett says:

    @fundude, I am sorry, but just cannot take you seriously..you are so entertaining sometimes, though, hehe.

    Just FYI, those that have something to offer or are something this or that…If you are, then you do not have to tell anyone about it. If you have to constantly tell someone, then you are not. A very attractive trait I find in others, is humility…

  351. sokate says:

    @Vitesse

    It seems like most of the guys here – understandably – place high value on looks when it comes to choosing an SB. Not that attractiveness is defined solely in terms of weight and height, but as you put it yourself (if I remember correctly) a couple of blog posts ago, a 5’10 120 lbs woman would usually qualify as quite hot. Why then, I wonder, doesn’t your formula put more emphasis on weight and height?

    Take me as an example. I weigh 115 lbs and am 5’9.5 tall, which, using your formula, would grant me a maximum reasonable allowance of 2540 (ish) USD. If I gained, say, 30 lbs, I would – going by what seems to me to be the predominant view on the blog, that bigger is not better – be less hot. However, my theoretical weight gain would only reduce my allowance by sixty-something dollars. Now, I don’t know that I would be unattractive at 145 lbs, but still… Is 30 lbs only worth 65 dollars? Judging from the way some of the guys talk about obesity, curves and BBWs on this blog, I’d assumed a significant weight difference would manifest itself in a noticably lower allowance.

  352. Denise says:

    Thank you Dud:

    Noticed what he posted :

    Why would I pay 1000/meet when I can easily get women in their early 20s for far less price?

    Thank you Dud you’ve proved an amazing point. So you just undervalued youth. So glad Kenna Kenna’s future husband doesn’t see things that way.

  353. PI Wolf says:

    @DLS,

    Hi, too. Anything brewing on the horizon? I agree – it is a dry spell for me too, currently. More to do with financials, than lack of choice. Need to help some people overseas. I really like the Asian genes, especially Chinese mixed with anything – results are usually very good. 😀 😀
    Are you looking for an SD? It is really a lot of work and time consuming, with no guarantee of finding your expectations.

    @Keke,

    No, you are not too old for me. I did not even know I checked your profile 😀 Unless you are 50 or over. I enjoy the intimate charms of women in their 30s and 40s. Even 50s would do, as long as they look attractive, and are fun. Attitude is very important.
    Your stated 90k income is gross, right? Net is about 62%, depending on how big your state income tax is. The Man is making us poor!

    @Struggle,

    You are not the only one learning. I have also picked up nuggets of wisdom from all the blather in this blog. I try to keep my mind open all the time, as you never what someone or an event can teach me a lesson. I know that there is more that I don’t know compared to what I do know.

    @Promise,

    Not good. Your uncle’s roommates robbed him. Is your uncle living with you? That is dangerous for you!

    @sexy,

    You are really looking forward to cooking and dining in, with Drummer. That is really great, for you both. Enjoy each other, and being able to afford the fun times!

    @flyR,

    Excellent post. Bringing the true economic situation today! A lot of people are out of work, and those that remain and have full time jobs are also affected by the invisible inflation, on food and necessities. What a joke! The Fed’s no inflation – only if you don’t eat, sleep, or work! Hey Feds, there is no inflation when a person is dead, ha ha ha!

    @Denise,

    Everything is going bad. It is going to get worse, I mean the economy. That is why a lot of men who used to have high paying jobs ($100k+) are out of work. Shale oil workers are losing jobs. Financial sectors (mortgages, etc.) are down a lot. Wait till QE4 is really announced. It is hidden by making the Japanese buy our papers.

    @Vitess,

    I agree. An SD/SB arrangement is a RELATIONSHIP. It is not an escort or prostitution thing. It is AN AFFAIR. The amount of money that changes hands are because of the relationship. The SD is the Generous Boyfriend and Benefactor or Patron.

    @ONSD,

    Bravo! You stated it really clear. The arrangement works longer and better if both parties are not being “Nickle and Dimed” or “Hustled”. And location matters, as cost of living is different based on your area. There are Douchebags all over the place and Douche Baggettes!

    @FunDude,

    You are hilarious!!! When they use the nuclear option on me – I have a small penis. What happens when I respond – Yes, I have a small penis. It is going well, since it is obvious you have a big vagina. I will sloshing in there. I need someone who can make me feel something. 😀 😀

  354. FunDude says:

    @Muah

    The graduate degree gives credibility in more elite circles for a long term relationship.

    Do you think its a coincidence that Kenna has a University of Chicago MBA and is going to Columbia University for a PHD?

    You ladies with feminist studies degrees who have aged out a decade ago can’t expect to have anywhere near the same luck as her.

  355. FunDude says:

    @Batshit

    Notice how you don’t mention your “degree” or where you got it from.

    Also waiting on your height and weight?

    What makes you so valuable to be worth 1000/meet when there are literally hundreds of SBs in your OWN AREA that are in their 20s, far hotter than you, etc that are willing to meet for far less?

    Thats illogical.

    Ergo, it isn’t happening. You are just speaking nonsense for the gullible.

  356. ErikTheRed says:

    @Denise

    I actually pay significantly higher the $1000/$250 number. In case you did not notice, I was talking about requiring direct deposit number to the SB’s tuition account if the monthly requirement is over $3k. Do John’s pay direct deposit to tuition accounts for their escorts?

    I tend to treat my giving as need-based and taking into account how much good my resources can do for the recipient. $3k/mo tuition subsidy for a high achieving student unable to find tuition money otherwise would be fine with me, but $250 each time for an escort would be $249 too much compared to a flashlight and too much risk of disease.

  357. BethSB says:

    VitesseSD says:
    April 7, 2015 at 2:53 pm
    Hey guys

    Amax = 2500-0.75(W-125-H)3

    Amax = Max reasonable allowance
    W = weight in lbs
    h = height in inches over 5’4

    This formula seems to work where weight + h > 100 lbs
    Thoughts?
    …………………………………………………………
    @Keke i wanna know mine too.

    @VitesseSD what’s my Amex? 126pds, 5’4″, 25.
    Please and thank you.

  358. VitesseSD says:

    @Josh

    5’10 140 1950
    5’10 130 2500
    5’10 120 3500
    5’10 110 12700

    5’5 140 450
    5’5 130 2473
    5’5 120 2590
    5’5 110 4228
    5’5 100 9914

    5′ Essentially the same as 5’5

  359. Denise says:

    @Mauh

    Denise
    I agree! What kind of guy would give a gal less of an allowance because she has to work MORE to support herself. Especially if the guy likes this girl… That’s cheap and mean lol
    ____________________________________________________________________________

    Well I wondered the same and you have to think some of this is revenge. Some of these men had the crush on the hot college girl or the hot high school cheerleader. She wouldn’t give them the time of day. Now that they have a bit in the bank they’re getting revenge. Notice you hear about men that will play the game and spend $000000000 or will offer the SB the amount and then give her 10% of what they promised?

    Revenge. Look at how much anger Josh and Dud post. You would think that with all they have they’d be seriously pleased with life right? For some reason it’s still not enough.

  360. Muah says:

    @Sexy
    Exactly – A great personality is very important!!

    That’s why I said I would be suspicious of a “quality/attractive” SB accepting a low allowance – I consider a low allowance $1000 or less a month (especially if the visits are frequent/weekly/more) EVEN if that $1000 would really help, I totally get that $1000 would help A LOT of people…

    FunDude
    What difference does a level of education make?? Having a degree doesn’t make a person interesting, etc – sometimes a degree doesn’t even mean a person is intelligent. I work with a girl who has 2 bachelor degrees and an associates – who just started working on her masters – who spells “have” (like I have to check that out) as “half”. She’s still super sweet and fun, I never know what she’s saying on Facebook, but her having degrees sure don’t mean shit :) I have to say that’s a silly pre-req to have…

    Lol, would you poo yourself if Denise was a 22 year old supermodel?

  361. LadyScarlett says:

    Degree* for the spelling/autocorrect nazis, hehe.

  362. LadyScarlett says:

    I have a grad degee in Proxycology…You get an ‘A++’ HEHEHE

  363. FunDude says:

    Kenna has a real graduate degree that is VALUABLE.

    I can PROMISE your graduate degree isn’t in the hard sciences or an MBA from any reputable institution.

    Its likely some kind of feminist studies or psychology stuff

  364. FunDude says:

    @BatShit

    Grad Degree in what? Women’s studies?

  365. FunDude says:

    Why would I pay 1000/meet for some late 30s feminist hag when I can easily get women in their early 20s for far less price?

    That is the true question. I don’t think most other SDs are that stupid either.

  366. LadyScarlett says:

    That information will cost you $250 😉

  367. LadyScarlett says:

    Also, I have a grad degree…where are you getting your information, fundude?..you certainly make many assumptions, and are obsessed with talking about what you think I look like or have/do not have degrees in…hehe

  368. FunDude says:

    @Batshit

    Post your profile then. I can determine the veracity of your claims.

    What is your level of education?

    If you are under 40, you are still late 30s. That is considered OLD in the sugar game.

    What is your height and weight?

  369. FunDude says:

    @Denise

    You have the desires of a 22 y/o supermodel. We all know you have Substantial level expectations.

    We just have never seen your profile, know your age or seen a picture of you.

    Ergo, we can’t tell if you are delusional or not.

    We can assume you are delusional unless you are literally a 22 y/o old supermodel.

  370. BethSB says:

    FunDude says:
    April 7, 2015 at 2:39 pm
    @Promise

    Im doing well, why do you ask?

    @ Sugar Daddies

    Ever notice its the most undesirable women (both physically and feminist wise) that claim to be getting 1000/meet.

    I have hot 23 y/o women and under going out with me for FREE on meets outside of dinner or drinks.

    I refuse to pay for a first meet outside of dinner or drinks.

    If I was to pay for a meet or allowance, intimacy is required.
    ……………………………………………………………………..

    I agree with you on this one @FunDude. I see no need to pay for first meets outside of dinner or drinks.
    When after that meet you both will know if there is chemistry and if you should go ahead with a further arrangement.

  371. LadyScarlett says:

    lol, fumbledud, I am under the age of 40(which, you know that, lol) and I am tall and slender..this is just getting ridiculous…

    Anyways, Denise…never argue with idiots, remember? They will always beat you with experience 😉 hehe

  372. KeKe says:

    @Vitesse what’s my Amax? 164pd, 5’6″ 35?

  373. sexyrockstar says:

    I wouldn’t call myself bbw by any means. I’m short and curvy. But I get sugar daddies at ease.

    Never had a monthly allowance less then 2k a month, yet nothing greater then 5k a month.

    I think I bring a lot to the table as a sugar baby, otherwise I highly doubt drummer and I would last as long. He’s young too!

    I’m so much more than just a pretty face and a great lay. I know of girls who are way hotter then I am that can’t keep a sugar daddy, nor see the type of allowances I get.

  374. Promise says:

    @FunDude Kenna sounds adorable! I love her hair.

  375. Denise says:

    Wait what is this? VitesseJohn and EriktheJohn ? Look I get that you men have to keep the status quo here of getting ladies to tow the low offer line because that’s what you want. Just because I have a clue about why your types offer doesn’t mean I’m an escort.

    Look I get it. If SBs know their worth you’ll have to raise your levels to something decent and what you would have to brag about on those forums. Men will scream “mangina” is you spend generously which is why you never see any man bragging about doing the best for a SB. It’s usually the SB saying wow he’s so generous!

    I’ve been called a feminist BBW, old hag and now I’m an escort too just because I’m posting some truth?

    For grown OLDER men you all sound like a bunch of children. I mean really? SBs that get these low offers aren’t think wow how generous of him to want to take up 6 hours of my day and throw me $200. Hell a woman that does phone sex brings in more.

  376. FunDude says:

    @Muah

    Lets use Kenna vs Batshit as examples of first rate vs third rate

    1) Age: Kenna= early to mid 20s, batshit= over 40
    2) Weight: Kenna= thin Batshit= BBW
    3) Education: Kenna= University of Chicago MBA and working on PHD Batshit= GED
    4) Attitude: Kenna= easy to get along with and feminine Batshit= Angry and Demanding

    Any other questions?

  377. Josh says:

    @VitesseSD

    Plug different numbers in the formula and show what you get?

  378. FunDude says:

    LOL Vit

    What is the value of batshit under that formula?

    Batshit what is your height and weight?

  379. Josh says:

    @Gentle

    I don’t call @KennaKenna princess for nothing. 😉

  380. FunDude says:

    @Muah

    She describes herself as an older BBW female.

    Her attitude is very feminist and belligerent.

    Ergo, she is very low on the market physically with very big demands.

  381. VitesseSD says:

    Hey guys

    Amax = 2500-0.75(W-125-H)3

    Amax = Max reasonable allowance
    W = weight in lbs
    h = height in inches over 5’4

    This formula seems to work where weight + h > 100 lbs
    Thoughts?

  382. Jj says:

    As to the retaliations towards the gifting of the lovely working mutiple employments… me “tinks” if would behoove the “ladies” to reread and “comprehend” what was being addressed… especially the final statements of said employment… just say’n !!!

  383. KeKe says:

    Lmao.. it’s freaking madness up in here…maybe we should go back to non sugar topics. No name calls in those discussions
    @Promise…hun. he was most definitely being sarcastic. Lol

  384. FunDude says:

    My comment about the “worth” of BBWs and older women was a parody of the mentality of feminist SBs like Denise and Batshit

  385. Muah says:

    FunDude
    How do you know she’s 3rd rate? Have you met her in person? Jw…

  386. Promise says:

    I meant Denise!

  387. ErikTheRed says:

    @kenna

    LoL. Probably because you have one of the ultimate sugar success story. IMHO, sugaring for women is a transitory phase towards 1 of 4 outcomes:

    1. What you have: finding a successful man who will sponsor you for the really long term measured in decades, helping both your genetic future and career future;

    2. Help paying for degree programs or finding profitable career paths;

    3. Turning to escorting, as when there is no genetic future or professional future prospects in sight, escorting maximize the economic return from what one is born with in the finite amount of time during which it has value;

    4. Nothing, and the girl is unable to capitalize on her endowment. Either the property is too low in quality or the landlord asks for too much rent, and the property remains vacant. Occupancy is a perishable good.

  388. Promise says:

    @Demise Can’t we all just be each others proxies?

  389. gentleman soul says:

    @ KennaKenna
    @gentleman

    Why do you keep using me as an example? Hahaha

    That’s a rhetorical question -right ? Because you appear to be sexy,gorgeous,have a gentle demeanor about you ,and have achieved the ultimate in Sugar goals. You have found wealth , and perhaps more important , you have found love . Good for you !! You are not strident,contentious ,appear to be humble ,and must make your Daddy a very happy man . That’s why . And you are a good role model for aspiring SBs

  390. FunDude says:

    @Kenna

    Only if you sufficient quality to achieve >1K/month.

    Most SBs on this site are definitely not worth 1K/month let alone more.

  391. FunDude says:

    @Muah

    Depends on what you consider “higher” than escort prices?

    Also, I value myself pretty highly, so I don’t see myself being a chump and overpaying.

    Especially for third rate women like batshit

  392. KennaKenna says:

    I want to add to this discussion- sugar is supposed to upgrade your lifestyle.

    $1000 monthly may upgrade some SBs lifestyle but for others it is laughable.

  393. Josh says:

    @Denise-theEscort,

    “Also I used to write on this blog a few years back. You’re the newbie here to me…”

    What are you confessing now?

  394. Promise says:

    @FunDude You’re saying stuff that contradicts what you’ve said in the past. Since we’re typing IDK if you’re being sarcastic or not. I think there might’ve been something wrong with the Mexican you ate earlier.

  395. Muah says:

    Do you see how angry I am in my gravatar. It’s because you constantly repeat yourself. We also know you are not into big girls…

  396. Josh says:

    @Denise

    How often do you find yourself telling men “hey, can’t you handle a strong woman?” 😉

  397. Muah says:

    FunDude
    You really do not need to incessantly remind everyone that you require intimacy in order to provide an allowance. Seriously. Everyone knows.

  398. FunDude says:

    I would need money to fuck someone like batshit.

  399. Denise says:

    @BottomBoy

    Also I used to write on this blog a few years back. You’re the newbie here to me you proxy muncher you! hahah

  400. Muah says:

    @Gentleman
    Yes I know you weren’t addressing me lol… Obviously a girl has to be higher quality to obtain higher amounts (while still being treated like a person not a hooker). If by most people’s standards you are considered a pretty girl, nice body, good personality and NOT a hot mess you can do well if you screen through the nasty nast guys lol.

    So if I had a penis and extra money – and decided to try out the whole sugar daddy thang… If I found what I would consider to be a very pretty/physically attractive girl on here… who had a seemingly pleasant personality – I would be suspicious if she only wanted a considerably small or typically deemed “escort” allowance. Wouldn’t it be a red flag if a gal undervalues herself? I mean I would be suspicious of a younger, attractive man wanted to gift me a very large allowance. Of course everyone’s opinion of attractive is different too… Anywho.

    Kenna
    You clearly have an admirer 😀

    Denise
    I agree! What kind of guy would give a gal less of an allowance because she has to work MORE to support herself. Especially if the guy likes this girl… That’s cheap and mean lol

  401. Denise says:

    @JoshTheBottomBoy

    “The only thing I can conclude is that Denise is an escort looking to fleece _genuine SDs. Good luck to any guy who wants a relationship with her.”
    ____________________________________________________________________________

    If you’re referring to what I know anyone can do their research about sugar and get all the information out there on the topic. So no sorry I have never escorted nor have I desired to.

    You act like typing in backpage and clicking on “escorts” is some major task. Now if I could learn how to properly quote on this blog that would be a new learning experience.

  402. FunDude says:

    @Promise

    Im doing well, why do you ask?

    @ Sugar Daddies

    Ever notice its the most undesirable women (both physically and feminist wise) that claim to be getting 1000/meet.

    I have hot 23 y/o women and under going out with me for FREE on meets outside of dinner or drinks.

    I refuse to pay for a first meet outside of dinner or drinks.

    If I was to pay for a meet or allowance, intimacy is required.

  403. KennaKenna says:

    @gentleman

    Why do you keep using me as an example? Hahaha

  404. Denise says:

    I’m willing to start out covering one of the above scenarios…but…I’m not starting out by full support (especially if she’s working 1,2 or 3 jobs already).

    Ok what I don’t understand is why are you equating what you spend with how hard she’s working? If anything showing her some financial relief would probably bring her to tears of joy and gratitude.
    ____________________________________________________________________________

    @LadyScarlette
    @Denise, the blog just keeps going downhill, lately…from $500 to $250, at this rate, by next week, some will be telling girls on blog dinner at Chili’s and $25 for gas money is a very lucky SB, hehehe. Girls who are new to blog, do not listen to this crazy nonsense..
    _________________________________________________________________________

    You are correct actually that’s already happening. Also when did Panera bread become an upscale dining experience? Did I miss something?

    I read a few blogs copying a conversation where an SD thought an amazon gift card for $25 would really get a SB all sexted up reading for the deed. I was like wow that is just umm no.

    Ok this part I don’t understand. Now I get that where you live $1000 covers all of these items rent, utilities etc. It must be nice. With that said why do you care about how hard she’s working to support herself? If she’s working multiple jobs you’ll offer less? What is the logic in that?

  405. LadyScarlett says:

    @gentlemansoul, $500 per visit is not substantial…lol

  406. Josh says:

    @batshit

    I am not an ageist. 😉

  407. LadyScarlett says:

    funny, I do not need to name call and act like a 3rd grader to get my point across.. Says a lot about character(lack thereof) and why you are such a bitter man, Josh. I do not care to, or need to lower myself to your sad existence….

    Also, funny considering you said you wanted to ‘do me’..must have an old hag fetish, hehe.

  408. Promise says:

    @FunDude are you OK?

  409. Josh says:

    @VitesseSD

    “The only thing I can conclude is that Denise is an escort looking to fleece genuine SDs. Good luck to any guy who wants a relationship with her.”

    Right on brother… 😉

    There has been repeated efforts from escorts and rinsers to try to control this blog. Every fresh idiot like @Denise galvanizes old hags like @batshit.

  410. gentleman soul says:

    @Scarlette

    “there are plenty of escorts on SA who make these offers to the SD’s, and set a certain ‘price’ on site, and fair enough, there is a market for these two groups, and do hope that they stick to one another, and do not go barking up the wrong tree.”
    Well yeah ! A dog in the tree is worth 2 in the bush, but a dog barking up the wrong tree is bush-whacked

    “I have had SD’s who are long distance, to which I do not even see them for the month, but they still gift me because they are, well, my SD, and that is what they enjoy doing” Scarlett ,you are so full of it ! You make this crap up .You are baiting well intentioned Daddies . No guy enjoys sending money to girls who are not providing some service in the scheme of things . We call that alimony where I come from .

    ” $250 is fair ‘going rate’ week for sex? I have gotten that or more just for dinner or lunch meet, and more sent for a pre meet gift, although, the men who do that anymore are less and less” Not !

    ” did you really just admit you take your sugar dates to Golden Corral” All right -you caught me ! O’Charleys,or was it Hooters ? I meant .

    Nah ,in all fairness each SB is entitled to her limits and standards . If you require $1000/meet and can get it -good for you ! And I mean that . But don’t give the new SBs the idea that they are going to get it. Maybe they will get lucky ,but more likely they will sit on the sidelines until they leave the game or lower their expectations .

    Here’s the thing in my experience of many years . I have written to hundreds of Pots ,met with dozens ,and made an arrangement with a few . All the girls who had unrealistic expectations -as judged by their stated Lifestyle expectation being moderate and up, or placed their per visit meeting charge at $300 plus ,are still actively on the site or deleted their profile . I think many girls hear stories like yours and think “Oh -I can just fill in this little box thingee with “substantial” and ask $500/visit , and I can cover my tuition in a month” They quickly learn that it aint happening -unless they are a Kenna.

  411. ErikTheRed says:

    We already know batsh*t’s preferred victim is a long distance gullible fool who pays rent on the pussy while leaving it vacant for use by others.

    For what it’s worth, a monthly net positive cash flow of $1000/mo has a forward discounted current asset value of nearly half a million dollars at current interest rates.

  412. VitesseSD says:

    @ErikTheRed

    The only thing I can conclude is that Denise is an escort looking to fleece genuine SDs. Good luck to any guy who wants a relationship with her.

  413. LadyScarlett says:

    There have been several uses of the word, ‘whore’, in reference to the SB’s as well…even one earlier today.

    There are John SD’s who have posted on this blog, in past, as well as that sexuserguides forum I posted. I wish the admins would come in, and take note of the state their site has become with other users looking to take advantage of women(and men).

    @denise, what is even scarier is that some of the johnSD’s come to SA because they do not pass escort background checks, and yes, some of them brag and encourage other men to come on SA and get discounted prices from their local escorts, who they then coerce into having unprotected sex with…an escort would never allow that, and the men look for naive girls to take advantage of.

    The bottom line is, do I like them and enjoy their company? Are they offering what I feel I am worth, and if so, are we both adding value to each other’s lives(besides only monetarily). Is what he offers worth what you are potentially giving up, in meeting someone with whom you might have had a long term regular relationship with? It is not just about money, but about time, as that is something you can never get back.

    I have said this before, screen screen screen…for both the men and women. There are still a fair amount of legitimate and kind women and men, on site…and also, it never hurts to look for someone in regular life as well.

  414. Jj says:

    Oops… KeKe beat me to it… need to learn to refresh.. Doh!!!!! Homer S.

  415. KeKe says:

    @Vitesse… no problem. Just giving you more accurate info

  416. Jj says:

    Actually it “A bird in hand is worth two in the bush!!! But I surmise where Gent was “coming” from; for indeed, a bird in hand is, definitely worth more in the bush!!! just say’n!!!

  417. VitesseSD says:

    @Denise

    Seeking a sugar relationshionship is no more dangerous than any other sort of dating. I’d also expect that the risk of STDs is significantly reduced compared to escorting. One SD is less risky than 30 johns.

    You’re also kidding yourself if you believe that an escort can properly screen some guy that looks her up in a newspaper or phone book.

    As for using protection a SB can certainly demand it.

  418. KeKe says:

    @Gentleman..lol.. that works too!

  419. ErikTheRed says:

    Which of course begs the question, Denise, why do you not pursue escorting instead of sugaring? As per your analysis, escorting is not only safer but also pays more. LOL.

  420. Josh says:

    @Admins

    Please note @Denise’s and @LadyScarlett’s repeated use of “John” to refer to blog SDs.

    Use of such language may put your paying clients, that is, SDs in potentially legal situations. Please ask these ladies to use common sense and refrain from using such careless and legally loaded term.

    Thank you!!!

  421. Denise says:

    @gentlemen soul
    _________________________
    Well the comparison of Escorts to Sugarbabies happens when most of the Sugar Daddies are Johns. Notice the site says “no escorts” but it surely doesn’t say “No Johns”.

    Also saying multiple orgasms for $250 at 2hrs is really like saying no orgasms at $125 per hour ( 175 below escort rates).

    Actually sugaring I think is much more dangerous than escorting in a way because escorts communicate dangerous clients. On a site like this you’re meeting people that you don’t even know, have no history with nor can tell how they treat women where money is involved.

    Also men pushing unprotected sex?

    Escorts have tools where they can clearly see a member’s reviews before meeting. If he’s a known rapist well most wouldn’t get past their verification process.

    Here? That same guy has free reign. He’s on a dating site so it’s not like you’re going to know he’s hunting for a victim.

  422. BethSB says:

    Muah says:
    April 7, 2015 at 1:53 pm
    Beth
    Hehe BHM is Big Handsome Men… Like BBW
    POT is a ‘potential’ sugar baby or sugar daddy (I think???)
    ……………………………………………………………………….
    ah makes sense now. I see you guys use a lot of jargon and i’m sometimes reading the comments like “now WTH does that mean?”

  423. VitesseSD says:

    @KeKe “my son is 7,my daughter is 4”

    You said before the drugs so I just did some mental math.

  424. LadyScarlett says:

    Onlinesd, did not mean to upset you, and I was not saying you are like those men on the usasexforums, but am sorry, I think $250 per meet is a very low offer..and agree with muah, that I even think $1,000 per meet is too low for most men on site anymore, due to the way they behave. There is a guy on SA, who actually calls himself Hobby(insert city here)…I have had SD’s who are long distance, to which I do not even see them for the month, but they still gift me because they are, well, my SD, and that is what they enjoy doing. I do not see anyone, unless they enjoy the dynamic of taking care of their lady…I can sniff out a John SD very easily anymore, and do not even give them a thought.

    And, I agree, there are plenty of escorts on SA who make these offers to the SD’s, and set a certain ‘price’ on site, and fair enough, there is a market for these two groups, and do hope that they stick to one another, and do not go barking up the wrong tree..but for the women who want more, as well as the men, then why put that down that segment and say that is ‘fantasy’. With my job and assets, I could afford $300 a week to gift someone, so why would I take less than that from a man who is supposed to be improving my lifestyle? but to say that $250 is fair ‘going rate’ week for sex? I have gotten that or more just for dinner or lunch meet, and more sent for a pre meet gift, although, the men who do that anymore are less and less…This blog market is just not something I am having past experience with, it is not my market, and it just seems so low…and, I do not want new girls to think that is the going rate, because it is not. A SB does not have a ‘going rate’.

    gentlmansoul, did you really just admit you take your sugar dates to Golden Corral…oh my…lol

    “Hourly wages involve working all hour ,every hour until your shift is done . There is a little difference making $250 for a pleasant 2 hours having multiple orgasms after dinner at the Golden Corral and slaving in the kitchen for 8 solid hours ,and not one orgasm .’

    So, all ladies, stop going to college and holding yourself to higher standards, when you could can be taken to golden corral and then have your body used for $250..yeah, well, I will take digging ditches over an offer like that, any day…sorry, but am just being honest..

    This blog has become quite sad…

  425. DarkHorseSD says:

    ”I remember the blog in the past where $500 a meet was the norm for the P4P types. Now it’s $250 a meet? When did that start happening?”””

    .. When the blog started letting people who weren’t full of shit post too.

  426. ErikTheRed says:

    @Denise,

    McDonald’s is the largest restaurant corporation in the world. It makes far more money every year than even the most expensive Italian restaurant in NYC. If it is money for food that you want, the McDonald’s model is the way to go, just like escorts.

    Even the patrons to the most expensive Italian restaurant still wants food. Of course they appreciate the ambience, presentation, color, smell and the sizzle. . . And pay for all of that to keep the fancy Italian restaurant in busienss. None of them would show up if the restaurant sells only presentation and smell while refusing to sell the food! If you want to fault the restaurant patrons for wanting food at all, then I guess you will have to work the job where you ask “do you want fries with that?” instead of asking “how would you like your steak done?” and get tipped generously for good service.

  427. VitesseSD says:

    @FunDude

    Its all about not calling Dr. Armstrong, I dont think psychiatry does much else.

  428. Muah says:

    Beth
    Hehe BHM is Big Handsome Men… Like BBW
    POT is a ‘potential’ sugar baby or sugar daddy (I think???)

  429. VitesseSD says:

    @Denise

    “Well escorts laugh at SBs because they already know their getting their clients for more work and less money. So of course they think SBs should “charge” the way they do. A hobbyists knows if he wants to date an escort he’s going to have to pay her rate for “outings” similar to what he pays for intimacy. Point is if the SD feels spending time is as valuable as the sex part then he would spend the same amount of money. If he think wait I can’t get laid? Then his primary focus is sex. All of the rest is he just wants additional attention without footing the bill.

    This is why there are non sexual SB types because if SDs truly find value all aspects of sugar not just the sex part then they aren’t paying for sex. If he’s honestly stating I will only spend when your panties hit the floor then he is in a big way paying just for sex.“

    I’m not in highschool anymore. If I’m not having sex with a woman its not a relationship, its a friendship. No man anywhere has difficulty finding women for friendship. Most men find women who want to be friends and nothing more to be the bane of their existence. See: Friendzone, Just Friends, I see you as a brother, etc.

    Expecting a relationship to be a relationship and not a friendship is a normal reasonable expectation.

    Most SDs will have no problem with a SB not being in the mood (some of the time at least), I guarantee you this is not the case with a john and an escort. All men want sex, the question is do they only want sex.

  430. gentleman soul says:

    @KeKe

    Actually it’s a bird in the hand is worth more than “2” in the bush.Lol
    OOOR -A bush in the hand is worth more than a bird

  431. BethSB says:

    what’s BHM and POT?

  432. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Muah – that’s the beauty of Sugar…no matter where you are, you can hold out for whatever you choose…

    My issue with @Lady is that she continually denigrates SDs who aren’t willing to fork over a six month after-tax amount to a woman who hasn’t proven anything or done anything.

    In my area, $1,000 = 1-bedroom apartment, utilities, phone and generic groceries…$1,000 = 85% of average of public/private college experience (more than 100% of public, about 70% of private) tuition, books and fees…

    If I’m looking for a college SB, I’m willing to start out covering one of the above scenarios…but…I’m not starting out by full support (especially if she’s working 1,2 or 3 jobs already). If, however, we hit it off and she and I agree we want to be more available to each other, I’m more than happy to increase to take over for a job, or two, or three so that we can be together more.

    I’ll further clarify my $250 as a weekly arrangement starting point…if I get to see her MORE THAN ONCE A WEEK, she’s going to get more than that to start…but if I only get a couple of hours…and little communication between those weekly meets (and that communication is simply to find our next time together) how am I NOT being treated like a John? How am I NOT going to feel like her goal is to spend as little time with me as possible to get a higher hourly rate from me?

    PROVE to me you’re willing to make me feel wanted, that you’re not looking for an hourly arrangement and you’ll be taken care of…prove to me that you’re looking at things as a job and an hourly commitment, I’ll keep looking for the “relationship” I desire from a LOVER…because I’m not looking for a SB, I’m looking for a mistress…for a lover…

  433. Muah says:

    @Keke
    I’ve never heard that saying lol. I’m always learning something new here… Like “proxy” and “BHM”.

  434. DarkHorseSD says:

    I start off per meet. I haven’t found an sb who wants a monthly allowance at the end of each month to improve her self esteem over per meet, so I haven’t had the monthly experience.

  435. BethSB says:

    @Keke yes that’s it. lol

  436. Muah says:

    FunDude
    What tips?
    The BBW stuff? Lol I didn’t even read your posts sorry!

  437. BethSB says:

    I can agree with @Muah on the smoking part. i made out with a friend of mine a long time ago, he’s a smoker and it was frigging horrible. the taste, the smell. YUCK!! first and last.
    Since then, no smokers for me.

  438. KeKe says:

    @Gentleman: . Sometimes a bird in the hand is worth more in your bush –or something like that LOL
    ……………………………………………………………………..
    LOL A Bird in the hand is worth more than a bird in the bush.

    Actually it’s a bird in the hand is worth more than “2” in the bush.

    Lol

  439. Muah says:

    Erik
    Hello I don’t have a boyfriend… Duh – Hence the sugar dating.

    Also why do you keep referring to students. We are NOT all students lol. We are not all desperate for financial assistance. Dude some of us have already put ourselves through school…

    Do you truly think that all young women are complete idiots, riddled with low self-esteem, incapable of finding quality men our own age? Wealth is a bonus not a requirement. However, motivation to be a better person is a requirement (for me at least)… I am not so shallow to think that having money is a defining characteristic a person must possess in order to be datable.

  440. VitesseSD says:

    @KeKe

    ]https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/reclaiming-childhood/201306/dsm-5-disaster-children[

    “11 per cent of American school-age children have been diagnosed with attention-deficit/hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and that DSM-5 would likely lead to even more ADHD diagnoses. Considering the majority of those diagnosed are on prescription drugs, this is a worrying development. So worrying, in fact, that Dr Allen Frances, Professor Emeritus at Duke University and former Chair of the task force that developed DSM-IV, writes: ‘If people make the mistake of following DSM-5, pretty soon all of us may be labelled mad.’”

    “DSM-5 is also, frankly, a disaster for children assigned behavioural disorders. It sets the threshold for such disorders far too low, as it does for many other, poorly defined conditions such as generalised anxiety disorder, with which it’s now even easier to be diagnosed and thus, by extension, medicated.”

    “Children exhibiting prolonged temper tantrums can now be diagnosed with disruptive mood dysregulation disorder. That’s along with ADHD, oppositional defiant disorder, and bipolar disorder, which are already in the manual and share a great deal of overlap. And the elimination of the bereavement exclusion clause will mean that depression can now be diagnosed among the recently bereaved after just two weeks.”

    I guess two weeks is the right amount of time for a child to mourn a dead parent? Anything more is too long.

    Stay away from those quacks. Seriously.

    I think this quote sums it up:

    “When the penultimate chair of the DSM task force can write a book about the new one called Saving Normal: An Insider’s Revolt against Out-of-Control Psychiatric Diagnosis, as he just has, you know there’s more than a grain of truth to concern that psychiatry has spent the past three decades, in particular, turning significantly large numbers of human conditions into treatable disorders.”

    In other words the guy who wrote the book used to diagnose your kid is saying, thats going too far.

  441. FunDude says:

    @Muah

    I learned those tips from Jezebel.com and other feminist sources.

    I am positive they work!

  442. BethSB says:

    @Gentleman: . Sometimes a bird in the hand is worth more in your bush –or something like that LOL
    ……………………………………………………………………..
    LOL A Bird in the hand is worth more than a bird in the bush.

  443. FunDude says:

    @Vit

    I agree that most of these “diagnoses” about mental “disorders” are pure nonsense. I remember working in psychiatry and taking “behavioral” classes.

    They would give you an set of “symptoms” for ADHD/ autism spectrum disorder/ Asperger’s/ etc. It was basically nonsense.

    When working on a psychiatry rotation in a NYC hospital, we would just drug them up with potent psych meds and “chat” with these patients.

    They would become morbidly obese and just drugged up. It was basically a chemical lobotomy where they were calm but totally non functional.

    @ Gentleman Soul

    There is a market that is dictated by supply and demand?

    Damn, thought men just wanted to be “generous” to any old BBW, older woman, used goods woman, etc. by giving her > 1K/month to hang out?

  444. Muah says:

    @ONSD
    Perhaps that’s why I do well… Especially given where I live. I know you were addressing Lady – given that my wants are met, it am still surprised that girls (especially if they are pretty/good personality) accept waay less than myself. Just saying… If they are genuinely content who am I to say it’s wrong. Regardless I will retain my personal preferences since they’ve been working out :)

    Keke
    You’re just a good mom being too hard on yourself!

    Erik
    I won’t date anyone who does pot, smokes cigs, does other drugs or drinks excessively. SD or IRL. I tried weed a handful of times when I was maybe 20 and it made me sleepy and hungry. Total waste of time (for me at least) I made out with a girl who smoked (cigs) and it was disgusting. Bleh.

    Gentleman
    I’m quite okay with my situation lol, otherwise I wouldn’t continue doing what I do. I agree relationship is important and I want to say thank you Sherlock Holmes for discovering that lovely tidbit of knowledge :) Just because a girl accepts a low amount because it’s deemed “non escorty” and the SD “cares” for her… Doesn’t mean an SB receiving a higher amount isn’t cared for either OR that she doesn’t genuinely like her SD.

  445. ErikTheRed says:

    @Muah,

    How much did you charge your boyfriend while thinking $1000/hr was too low?

    The difference between the two number is essentially your way of saying how much lower you assess your “client” vs. your boyfriend.

    When looking for jobs, people trade off between maximizing pay vs. maximizing some other factors and ancillary benefits all the time. Intimacy being what it is, a relationship chosen to maximize pay usually do not bode well. IMHO, it’s a little like student financial aid: it is a necessary condition to enable the student continue her studies, but a FA package so big that the student would accept for sheer maximum financial gains do not usually produce desirable results in the long run.

  446. BethSB says:

    FunDude says:
    April 7, 2015 at 12:39 pm
    Ladies DONT listen to FLYR or Gentleman’s nonsense about SA.

    The average allowance for older BBW SBs is at least 10K/month.

    I will give you ladies the lowdown on how this place works:

    Rich dudes are desperate as shit.

    Its not like they ever date supermodels or women 20 years younger than them.

    They are total creepers who are desperate to give their money out.

    Flawless method to maximize SD money:

    1) Go to the Hamptons, Upper East Side of Manhattan, Financial District of Chicago or Palm Beach
    2) Let the man know how you got “all that bass” and all men BETTER RESPECT BBW women or older women!
    3) Let the man know he is a piece of shit that is lucky to have you
    4) Demand him to pay at least 10K/month to “hang out” with you because you are fabulous and watch “Sex and the City”.
    5) Let that desperate piece of shit know his place that he will be lucky to hold hands during a stroll in central park.
    6) Let that fucker know that you also expect gifts, purses, first class tickets to Cancun, etc. He is DAMN LUCKY to have you.

    If a SD thinks he’s “special”, just drop the nuclear option:

    1) Let him know he can’t handle a “real woman” because he has a “small penis”.
    2) Tell him about all the HOT actors/celebrities/etc with big muscles, six pack abs, and HUGE bank accounts that you could be spending your time with. He better know he’s nothing special AT ALL!

    Even if you eat bon bons all day, do no exercises, rode the cock carousel hard many years so that you look all worn out, etc, you are FABULOUS BECAUSE YOU ARE WOMAN!

    HEAR ME ROAR MOTHERFUCKERS!
    ………………………………………………………………………..

    OH WOW!! @FunDude where did that come form? o.O what an outburst hahahaha

  447. KeKe says:

    @Vitesse my son is 7,my daughter is 4

  448. Denise says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    > “I’ll even go so far as to say that at least 1 of those 3 would propose a meeting at a hotel (or a restaurant connected to a hotel)…”

    Or the rear parking lot of a restaurant connected to a hotel ..
    _____________________________________________________________
    Of course those are Pros. They’re trying to get you done and out of the way so they can move onto the next guy.

    Btw how do you do quotes on this blog?

  449. KeKe says:

    Oops willingness to talk about non sugar topics

  450. VitesseSD says:

    @KeKe

    Can you really diagnose poor working memory in a child who is 5? Even the material taught to first year psych students says you cant diagnose children.

  451. KeKe says:

    @Vitesse @Muah I do appreciate the advice and willingness to less to me talk about nonsugar topics on the blog. I especially appreciate the advice about school Vitesse *kiss*

  452. gentleman soul says:

    @FUnDude
    Ladies DONT listen to FLYR or Gentleman’s nonsense about SA.
    The average allowance for older BBW SBs is at least 10K/month.
    You go brother ! Set these Babies straight ! Cheap ass SDs !

    @Denise,Scarlett ,Muah etal

    Let the whole escort thing go -it isn’t comparable to Sugaring . Like Eric says ,it is a relationship that just happens to involve fucking . Don’t expect money from your Daddy if you don’t want the comparison to escorts .You ladies protesteth too much ! Perhaps there is a little guilt involved in accepting cash from your man . It’s the timing that’s important . If you get the cash on the bedside table after having sex–you might be an escort . If Daddy hides the money in a secret pocket in your Chanel Purse –it’s probably OK , and if you see a magic balance pop up in your IRA then you are definitely not an escort .

    Hourly wages involve working all hour ,every hour until your shift is done . There is a little difference making $250 for a pleasant 2 hours having multiple orgasms after dinner at the Golden Corral and slaving in the kitchen for 8 solid hours ,and not one orgasm .

    The Sugar Bowl is a market place. And prices are set by the participants. You can choose to play or not . I’m pissed that real estate prices crashed and I have to accept a lower price for my apartment complex . I am selling in spite of that since the market sets the price . I can sit on it for several more years hoping that the price will rise . But I will incur carrying costs as the property ages . Ladies ,be aware of your carrying costs . Sometimes a bird in the hand is worth more in your bush –or something like that LOL

  453. VitesseSD says:

    @ErikTheRed
    “I only knew she smoked pot, which is quite common among the 20-something age group nowadays. While I do not smoke pot myself, I used to have a tolerant attitude towards people who do. Looking back, the extra money I provided apparently enabled her to experiment with more powerful drugs. Perhaps it’s a little like handing the key to a Ferrari to a 16 year old who just got his license!”

    I once heard a joke about how when a rich person has a coke problem its not a problem its a habit, its only a problem for the poor. From everything I’ve seen lack of money is the only thing that keeps the average hard drug user from overdosing at the first chance they get. We sure do see a lot of celebrities dying/wrecking their lives.

    The whole “its college, experiment” mentality is dangerous, and as you pointed out giving a drug user money to take things from 0-60 is a terrible idea.

  454. KeKe says:

    @Vitesse. Between talking to you, Muah, my Lover and a childhood friend who admits he has ADHD and is not medicated for it ( and does extremely well)..Every you all say is received and processed and I feel confident he will be ok in the long term.

  455. DarkHorseSD says:

    “I’ll even go so far as to say that at least 1 of those 3 would propose a meeting at a hotel (or a restaurant connected to a hotel)…”

    Or the rear parking lot of a restaurant connected to a hotel ..

  456. Denise says:

    @VitesseSD

    “I think the problem is there’s too many escorts out there saying a SD/SB should be identical to escorting. Now when you actually bring up conventional SD/SB relationships people end up calling that a generous boyfriend. Which in a way should go without saying. There are however some things different from a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, mainly that its usually understood that things will not lead to kids and marriage etc.”

    Well escorts laugh at SBs because they already know their getting their clients for more work and less money. So of course they think SBs should “charge” the way they do. A hobbyists knows if he wants to date an escort he’s going to have to pay her rate for “outings” similar to what he pays for intimacy. Point is if the SD feels spending time is as valuable as the sex part then he would spend the same amount of money. If he think wait I can’t get laid? Then his primary focus is sex. All of the rest is he just wants additional attention without footing the bill.

    This is why there are non sexual SB types because if SDs truly find value all aspects of sugar not just the sex part then they aren’t paying for sex. If he’s honestly stating I will only spend when your panties hit the floor then he is in a big way paying just for sex.

    I spoke with a Pot SD last night and he sent me over a gift to show me he was serious. Honestly I wasn’t expecting this nor did I think that what I desired was what he was looking for. Strangely we hit it off but he does understand my reluctance and slight fence sitting. lol.

    We actually got into a similar discussion about sugar and why SBs now are more direct with “how many hours, how many times per week”. Some are more than aware of where the majority of the members hail from.

  457. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Lady – I’m sorry, but I’m calling BullSHIT…I can say with ABSOLUTE CERTAINTY that a $250 per meet (where meet is at a hotel and doesn’t last any longer than absolutely necessary) is the SA “going rate” for a play date. How can I? I’ve experienced it, been solicited for it…OVER AND OVER…

    And, AGAIN, this is a REGIONAL number…why did I pull out backpage? because those same whores that solicited ME for $250 for a meet at a hotel for $250 were listed on backpage for $100 a pop (note “pop” NOT hourly)…

    Also, I LOVE your selective quote…I said backpage going rate was $100 for full service…PREMIUM FOR NON-PRO…in my equation…if I were looking for a quick fuck, I’d go to backpage…I want MORE…but…I’m NOT giving away a couple of grand for a first intimate experience when I’ve had women disappear after that first “average” encounter.

    Don’t bitch about the quality of cash flowing to the SBs on this site AND bitch about the SDs who bitch about the quality of pussy available to them on the site. You can’t really have it both ways!

    It’s a free market economy on SA…those women who prove they are a “real” SB (for whatever the SD determines as the definition of SB) will do VERY WELL for their area. Those women who have a bitter-bitch attitude, a princess complex, an attitude of entitlement – not doing well…in the same way…those SDs who nickle-and-dime a SB aren’t going to be able to keep her. Those SDs who take care of the SBs needs, show them they care and take an interest in HER will find the perfect partner in the arrangement.

    I’m not an angry guy on here…but I’ll NOT be called a bad SD because of my view on Sugar by someone with inflated expectations pulling things out of her ass…
    I’ve been on the other blogs you reference…and…I’ve voiced my disdain for the douchebags who take advantage of innocent women or newbies to the Sugar Bowl…it makes MY job harder when I try to connect with a new lover!

  458. KeKe says:

    @vitesse….He had those issues before we started medicating him. Not after.

  459. Muah says:

    Denise
    Yea sounds like being an escort is tough work…

    Oh and if you are not excessively wealthy I apologize! And yes I do understand that it takes a lot of work to make the money etc, etc. Nonetheless, offering a girl (you like and believe is a quality girl) the bare minimum is still cheap.

  460. KeKe says:

    Psychologist refused to deal with my husband

  461. DarkHorseSD says:

    Promise says:
    April 7, 2015 at 8:52 am
    Done with school for the day. My hunt continues. I’m starting to think there aren’t any real SD’s in Massachusetts.
    xxxx
    That’s because there are no real SBs in MA. :(

  462. VitesseSD says:

    @KeKe

    Drugging anyone will lead to a poor working memory. ADHD meds cause OCD behavior. Laughing at inappropriate times is normal for a child. Social studies is nothing more than bullshit. Finally they don’t teach real science to children in grade 1. Science in grade 1 is shit like this: ]http://www.walthampublicschools.org/Curriculum_Guide_1.pdf[
    This has nothing to do with physics, chemistry, materials science, petroleum geology/engineering, etc.

    How well a child sat still while a teacher read a book about how dinosaurs died has nothing to do with actual science. Yes thats on that curriculum. Your child seems to be doing fine with math, thats all I’d worry about.

    The only thing in there that I would worry about in the least is a speech therapist.

    I suppose part of my opinion on this is based on my own life. They did more or less all of that to me too, speech therapist included (I couldn’t roll my Rs). My parents refused to drug me though.

    Here’s the thing. High IQ and ADHD present identically. Bored? 6? Of course you cant pay attention. Daydreaming/laughing at unusual times? Probably thinking about something else. The poor memory and OCD would probably vanish shortly after you take him off the drugs. He’s a child, children don’t pay attention and remember everything, thats normal.

  463. ErikTheRed says:

    @Muah,

    I only knew she smoked pot, which is quite common among the 20-something age group nowadays. While I do not smoke pot myself, I used to have a tolerant attitude towards people who do. Looking back, the extra money I provided apparently enabled her to experiment with more powerful drugs. Perhaps it’s a little like handing the key to a Ferrari to a 16 year old who just got his license!

  464. KeKe says:

    @Muah.. I’m trying! According to everyone just having this invested is half the battle but sometimes I feel like I’m failing him. My husband is anti everything. And he got kicked out of speech because he wasn’t taking him. I had to beg them to let him back in AND take off work to bring him. I’m not even going to go into when our psychologist to deal with my husband.

  465. Muah says:

    Erik
    Just because a sugar baby wants as much as an sugar daddy can reasonably provide her with, doesn’t mean she is a basket case or has problems. How silly… That’s like accepting a job for $15 and hour when you could have negotiated $19 an hour. Being paid 19 vs 15 doesn’t mean said person dislikes the job or my coworkers – simply want the top of what can be earned is desired. Being well compensated makes a person happier and allows them to feel appreciated.

    I used to think $1000 per meet (plus all expenses) was low… Silly me. I never realized how cheap the excessively wealthy are.

    Denise
    Eww hobbyist activities…

  466. Denise says:

    @ErikTheRed-

    @Denise,

    “You need to stay in character. Your character was not supposed to be reading the blog a few years ago. LOL.”

    LMAO. Trying to keep those offers low hmm? Sneaky sneaky. Last time I checked the cost of living goes up not down.

  467. DarkHorseSD says:

    “@ DirtyLittleSecret
    “Anybody else going through a dry spell lately? I removed my profile from here and the POT kind of fizzled” .”

    If you mean someone broke contact after you removed your profile, it’s likely he thought you were a scammer.

  468. Denise says:

    @Mauh

    @Denise
    “I’ve gotten low ball offers too. Well what I consider low ball… I promptly respond to those messages with something snarky :) What’s said is – There are apparently girls on here accepting those “rates” otherwise, SDs wouldn’t be throwing those offers out there.”

    These SDs are throwing out these rates in a more cooperative essence. Many talk to each other on forums and know that to make a change in Sugar they need to band together to make these women accept less. It’s similar to how hobbyists boards tend to control somewhat was escorts can and can’t do. Enough complaints about escorts that will not do X or Y and escorts fearing a loss in business may comply.

    It’s similar to yelp reviews. Too many bad reviews or complaints deter new business. Even if a hobbyists wasn’t as nice in his meeting with an escort she may have to leave a decent review fearing a negative review could deter new clients.

  469. Denise says:

    “Girls who are new to blog, do not listen to this crazy nonsense..” Au Contraire ladies ,you should listen to the reality. Fantasy is perpetrated here all the time . This little segment of reality is what it is for most SBs -and it isn’t so bad . It just isn’t the brass ring that Kenna has .Stick with it and maybe you will find it as well . Kenna must have something special about her to run in the crowd that she has with other partners as well . She has “it” . I’m sure if we met her it would be obvious from the start what that is -looks+personality + IT=success

    I’m not new to the blog. I used to post a few years back. I just don’t use the email anymore associated with my old id.

    A few of the members here I remember were flyr, Souther SB, Stormcat, DorkyGuy, etc.

    I don’t know where they all went but I joined to see what’s new in sugar. Sugar has found me through other channels but I thought hmm maybe…

    I spoke with several SDS back then that I honestly was too scared to meet because of their “hobbyist” activities. Yes they hobby aka Johns that see escorts. They come on SA trying to find young naive women that they can have unprotected hourless sex with. They may promise a high allowance but will throw her $100 after said “deed”, laugh and post about their “successes on some hobby forum”.

    There are always gems here like with Kenna Kenna’s posts but those types are far and few between.

    Now don’t get me wrong I find SA to be a lucky charm of sorts. The strangest thing is that every time I sign up some sugary goodness finds far away from this site.

  470. Muah says:

    Keke
    You’ll figure it out! And he’s just a little guy :) It takes time to find a solution and I am positive you will find a solution soon!

    Erik
    Did you not know she was into drugs??

  471. VitesseSD says:

    @ErikTheRed
    “Far better reference points are: at $10/hr for entry level jobs typical 18-25 Year olds, already 30% higher than the federal minimum wage in the $7.xx, 35 hrs per week full time under Obamacare rule and 4 weeks net $1400/mo pre-tax and $1100-1200 after tax.”

    Truth.

    I think the problem is there’s too many escorts out there saying a SD/SB should be identical to escorting. Now when you actually bring up conventional SD/SB relationships people end up calling that a generous boyfriend. Which in a way should go without saying. There are however some things different from a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship, mainly that its usually understood that things will not lead to kids and marriage etc.

  472. KeKe says:

    @Vitesse @Muah..he is not finishing his work.. he can not process multiple steps so he does poorly in science and social studies.. he is laughing at inappropriate times…he is developmentally delayed. He does have ADHD, poor working memory, OCD tendencies and requires a speech therapist, psychologist and reading specialist. His shit is real. I can not afford anything else. I’m treading water at 90K income

  473. ErikTheRed says:

    @Denise,

    You need to stay in character. Your character was not supposed to be reading the blog a few years ago. LOL.

  474. ErikTheRed says:

    Far better reference points are: at $10/hr for entry level jobs typical 18-25 Year olds, already 30% higher than the federal minimum wage in the $7.xx, 35 hrs per week full time under Obamacare rule and 4 weeks net $1400/mo pre-tax and $1100-1200 after tax.

    Another reference point is server jobs, where hourly rate from the establishment is minimal, tipping is about $150-200 during an 7 – 8 hour shift.

    By these standards, a few hours doing what one enjoys for $250 and $1000/mo are reasonable numbers from opportunity cost perspective.

    I used to pay my ex-SB’s $3-5k/mo. The perverse problem I discovered was that they would then use the money to show off to their friends, taking the latter to vacations or treating the latter to parties/drugs. Of course the “friends” would lash back at her/them and belittle her/their relationship with me. The whole dynamic is rather similar to the wives showing off to the relatives and the relatives can’t wait the divorce to take place so they no longer have to compete against the vain wives. LOL

    Nowadays, for me to pay $2k+/mo, it would have to be direct deposit to tuition payment or something like that.

    I also came to realize that, unless there is a legit specific need like tuition, if someone needs more than $3k/mo subsidy, she is probably not a good candidate for you:

    a. She is a major basket case with bad habits; unless you end up marrying her, what is she going to do when you are tired of her?

    b. If it takes a large number to keep her interested (and not due to necessities beyond her control, like a tuition payment), she is probably not into you. So why bother humiliating yourself and putting stress on her to be with you.

  475. FunDude says:

    Ladies DONT listen to FLYR or Gentleman’s nonsense about SA.

    The average allowance for older BBW SBs is at least 10K/month.

    I will give you ladies the lowdown on how this place works:

    Rich dudes are desperate as shit.

    Its not like they ever date supermodels or women 20 years younger than them.

    They are total creepers who are desperate to give their money out.

    Flawless method to maximize SD money:

    1) Go to the Hamptons, Upper East Side of Manhattan, Financial District of Chicago or Palm Beach
    2) Let the man know how you got “all that bass” and all men BETTER RESPECT BBW women or older women!
    3) Let the man know he is a piece of shit that is lucky to have you
    4) Demand him to pay at least 10K/month to “hang out” with you because you are fabulous and watch “Sex and the City”.
    5) Let that desperate piece of shit know his place that he will be lucky to hold hands during a stroll in central park.
    6) Let that fucker know that you also expect gifts, purses, first class tickets to Cancun, etc. He is DAMN LUCKY to have you.

    If a SD thinks he’s “special”, just drop the nuclear option:

    1) Let him know he can’t handle a “real woman” because he has a “small penis”.
    2) Tell him about all the HOT actors/celebrities/etc with big muscles, six pack abs, and HUGE bank accounts that you could be spending your time with. He better know he’s nothing special AT ALL!

    Even if you eat bon bons all day, do no exercises, rode the cock carousel hard many years so that you look all worn out, etc, you are FABULOUS BECAUSE YOU ARE WOMAN!

    HEAR ME ROAR MOTHERFUCKERS!

  476. Muah says:

    what’s sad is ***

  477. VitesseSD says:

    @KeKe

    “He went from C/D student to A/B. But I think he had a growth spurt so it stopped working. He was running around the class and knocking things on the floor. They sent him home. It’s a private school so they have no tolerance.”

    “He genuinely hates the school and has asked to transfer since Kindergarten. He’s ending 1st grade.”

    Grades do not matter at all in that age range. Period. Ignore grades until grade 9, universities sure will. Grade 1-8 is daycare with a bit of math and reading thrown in. Running around and dropping things is normal behavior for a child that age.

    Since you can afford private school for him, could I recommend some sort of an arts school? Acting, dance, and so on. They’re far more likely to be tolerant of children being children, also since there’s more physical stuff going on your kid wont have all that excess physical energy. Not to mention it should be more fun. You can transfer your son to a normal private school with no difficulty when he hits grade 9. A tutor for math and sciences in a couple of years would get him ahead of kids his own age academically too.

    “you sound like my Lover. Lol”

    He sounds like a smart man, you should listen to him.

  478. Muah says:

    @Vitesse
    I have 2 bitches :) Dual doggies. Sometimes I make them do a dual doggy wheel barrel…

    @Denise
    I’ve gotten low ball offers too. Well what I consider low ball… I promptly respond to those messages with something snarky :) What’s said is – There are apparently girls on here accepting those “rates” otherwise, SDs wouldn’t be throwing those offers out there.

    @KeKe
    Lol I allegedly had/have ADHD or something – My parents never medicated me. I was always the kid in the corner of the room or with my desk next to the teachers because I talked too much (never stopped me though). APPARENTLY I was finishing work much faster than the other students then I would proceed “pester” the other kids because I was bored.

  479. LadyScarlett says:

    @Denise, yes, well blame Brandon, he got too greedy, and mass marketed, so now all the cheap Johns have come to SA, along with the bad press that scared many of the legitimate ones away, like the Google exec debacle…There are more private and discreet matchmaking arrangement sites out there, and they are growing…many started out in the Tech area, out west..

  480. VitesseSD says:

    @Denise
    “A women could be an escort at $300 an hour and make close to $1k after 3.5 hours even if she only meets with the same client all month long.”

    Being a SB and being an escort are not the same thing, the amounts really shouldn’t be compared. A SD that treats a woman as an escort regardless of what he pays should be kicked to the curb unless the woman is comfortable being an escort.

    Escorts are not taken to dinner, they don’t get gifts, there is no relationship. They are also expected to be up for anything any time, and if they’re not they’ll never see that client again.

    A SD/SB relationship is a relationship.

  481. KeKe says:

    @Vitesse you sound like my Lover. Lol

  482. Denise says:

    I just went to backpage and the escorts I’m seeing are in the 250-350 range. 250 a week or even 250 for hourless meet again typical john style sex deal.

    In the past I remember thinking $500 a meet was bad and that was just a few years ago. Now? Things appear to have even gone down further. No wonder I’m getting $100-$350 per meet offers from men on this site.

  483. KeKe says:

    @Vitesse..if only it was that easy. Initially the meds were working. He went from C/D student to A/B. But I think he had a growth spurt so it stopped working. He was running around the class and knocking things on the floor. They sent him home. It’s a private school so they have no tolerance. My psychiatrist did say she believes it’s the school more than him. They are not willing to make any Accomdations for him. I’m going to transfer him after the school year. He genuinely hates the school and has asked to transfer since Kindergarten. He’s ending 1st grade.

  484. Denise says:

    @gentleman- average backpage is $100 full serve…there’s a premium for non-pro…but starting at 1k (250 weekly) is a decent starting point…

    Wait am I reading this correctly? How is $250 weekly starting point better than $100 an hour? Full serve? Ahh Full Service Escort? I have never seen backpage escorts in that range.

    I’m pretty sure that’s correct if it’s someone in a bad area but $250 weekly is pointless to compare.

    A women could be an escort at $300 an hour and make close to $1k after 3.5 hours even if she only meets with the same client all month long.

    This is why sugar babies are now being regarded as cheap prostitutes because Johns keep coming on these sites to find sex deals aka $250 per week.

    $250 is what minimum wage? Maybe this all depends on where you live but that sounds incredibly low.

  485. LadyScarlett says:

    hehe 😉

    Nubian, it is the defining factor that determines a SB’s rate, for blog SD’s apparently…Well, backpage is a site for escorts and pay per the hour..

    I posted this awhile back, but on the usaesexguides forums, under ‘sugar babies/arrangements amateurs or not’, the new girls might want to take a read and see how some men operate on SA, where they try to bang and trick girls on SA, and they sometimes post pics of the girls as well. It also gives some tips on what red flags to watch out for, as they share tips on how to scam girls, or convince them to take as little of an allowance as possible…

  486. VitesseSD says:

    About the whole 1k thing:

    Outside of certain cities, 1k a month will cover rent. Having an actual relationship with a man who’ll cover an expense like that (and anything else that comes up) can solve a really bad situation for someone. Personally I believe demanding X amount where X is 5k or whatever for as few meetings a month is a bit jaded, it’s very much the other side of men who are looking for cheaper escorts.

    Note this bit is my opinion, and you know the saying about opinions.

    To go and try to figure out how much things work out to per hour really does turn things into prostitution. IMO if a woman is figuring out how much she’s being paid per hour to eat or sleep next to a guy thats absurd. If a woman cant stand being near a guy long enough for a meal she shouldn’t be around him. In the same way if a guy only wants sex pays and leaves he’s a john, and if a woman does not wish to be a prostitute, she should move on.

    I really cant understand justifying large or small allowances based on how much time is spent together.

    Note: I’m not saying anything about how money is given, whether its per meet at first, weekly or monthly etc. I can totally understand the desire for caution behind not giving a months allowance in one shot to someone you just met and risking seeing them vanish into the night.

    @KeKe
    If I ever have kids there is no way I’m ever going to let anyone treat them for ADHD, I honestly don’t believe it exists. The DSM is constantly having things added and removed, definitions changed, etc. Psychology is at its core bullshit. While psychiatry is occasionally valid it’s only in cases like schizophrenia and people who are convinced they’re a dog. A functional human should never receive treatment.

    @ Muah

    Wow your dog changed color! Hair dye?

  487. KeKe says:

    @Lady… I’m not thinking about their ass..fr fr

  488. KeKe says:

    @Lady.. Gurl….

  489. NubianSB says:

    What is backpage?

  490. KeKe says:

    @Promise.. I’m scared for you hun..Be careful

  491. LadyScarlett says:

    KeKe, i do not think you are anyone’s proxy, by the way (: You seem too normal..(notice the two dots I put, in your honor 😉

  492. LadyScarlett says:

    Hehe, I cannot get irritated today because some of this being said is so funny(but sad)…it is like the twilight zone of SA…

  493. Promise says:

    @KeKe My “uncles” roomates friends robbed him. I never liked that guys friends coming by. Now I know why.

  494. gentleman soul says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD
    @gentleman- 250 weekly is a decent starting point… Yep ! Perhaps in NYC/SanFran,Boston more. But a lovely 23 yr old in DC I saw for $250 for 8 mos .

    @sexyrockstar
    I know a few escorts that do really well. Amen to them. You might be surprised . A friend who escorted full time made $180,000 tax free. She had her own web page and travelled all the time . It isn’t an easy life . She got $3000 for a weekend in Vegas .

    @Scarlett
    ” after taking into account exclusivity and such, then a SB should be gifted much more than the ‘going’ hourly rate”

    It is what it is Love . Escorts have costs don’t forget-pimps,website fees,travel ,hotels. They make up for it in volume . SBs just have to show up and be themselves. They should already have clothes,makeup ,etc. Daddy should pay for everything else –even Pot Daddy ,such as travel,gas ,meals, room ,entertainment

    “Girls who are new to blog, do not listen to this crazy nonsense..” Au Contraire ladies ,you should listen to the reality. Fantasy is perpetrated here all the time . This little segment of reality is what it is for most SBs -and it isn’t so bad . It just isn’t the brass ring that Kenna has .Stick with it and maybe you will find it as well . Kenna must have something special about her to run in the crowd that she has with other partners as well . She has “it” . I’m sure if we met her it would be obvious from the start what that is -looks+personality + IT=success

  495. KeKe says:

    $1000..would pay off some credit card debt.

  496. flyR says:

    Rather than Perfect Arrangement I think a friendly or even professional guide and coach would be priceless for young women thinking of being involved in SA.

    Would be a perfect job for a stay at home mom – she could manage the accounts of a few SDs and SB s searching , introducing and filtering….. turning the prospects over with recommendations. My guess is that someone like struggle could sift through prospects about 20 times the speed of someone just starting .

  497. KeKe says:

    @Promise..what are you scared of?

  498. flyR says:

    @Denise “””I remember the blog in the past where $500 a meet was the norm for the P4P types. Now it’s $250 a meet? When did that start happening?”””

    Noting on the blog including this post should be considered a reflection of reality……..

    Is there a “softening of the market” Probably but oil has gone from $105/bbl to less than $50. Supply and demand . Despite what CNN would like you to believe the economy is really not doing well. We are still 2 million full time jobs short of where we were in 07 and we needed probably 10 million jobs just to stay even. Wages are not keeping up. Yes lots of folks have done very well but lots of others have suffered. SA has done a magnificent job of promoting arrangements as a legitimate job for the average coed. Many of the part time jobs that used to be available to college students are filled by very low cost labor. When I was in high school and college I worked in drug stores, gas stations, aircraft parts production and a cattle ranch. Most of those jobs are gone.

  499. Muah says:

    @Sexy
    Very true. I read about an escort in NYC who receives 10K for just a meet. And I totally get what you are saying :) * Sigh * I do miss Chicago.

    @Kenna
    $1000 is nothing in Chi either. Where I live though $1000 would cover my rent and water bill + a weeks worth of gas.

    @FlyR
    You’re right – there are plenty of nice, sweet, silly young women ripe for the picking. And by silly I mean – whose fault is it really that they associate with “losers”? Or are incapable of finding people who genuinely care about them…

    @LadyScarlett
    The SDs on here can pay their SBs whatever they chose and believe that is the standard. Fact remains some of us can actually obtain a pleasant allowance. Hell, I signed my girlfriend up on here and found her a quality Sugar Daddy in a week. Oh and yes, the allowance wasn’t some tacky per hour rate either lol. For the SDs to be sooo salty that some of us seem to have higher standards is super silly – to each their own!

  500. sexyrockstar says:

    @muah
    I was just listing things someone can do with a grand.
    I don’t tell POTs I have kids. Drummer knows tho. But we’ve been together for a million years.

    A grand a month isn’t shit, but it could do a lot for someone.

    …. just not me.

    I’m excited because in 7 days from now, drummer and I are seeing a cubs game. I’m showing him Chicago, MY style. And in 24 hours, I’ll be with him. He’s cooking dinner tomorrow night. We’re going to have a romantic night in.

  501. Promise says:

    I’m scared.

  502. LadyScarlett says:

    OnlineNewbieSD says:
    April 7, 2015 at 10:56 am
    @gentleman- average backpage is $100 full serve…there’s a premium for non-pro…but starting at 1k (250 weekly) is a decent starting point…’

    Really, comparing SB’s to backpage? OnlineSD…

    This is not what sugaring is..comparing services…If you are exclusive to your SD, then you are not seeing many men a day, and generally enjoy your time with your SD, unlike most on backpage, who are seeing several or more men a day.

    With that being said, if you want to compare, after taking into account exclusivity and such, then a SB should be gifted much more than the ‘going’ hourly rate…It is not $250 per meet, by the way, but per hour, on backpage….Even at $200 per hour, if you are seeing your SB for more than a few hours, then you are not even paying her a comparable hourly rate to backpage. And onlineSD, I am not even going to go into the full girls service for $100 an hour :-/ yowsers…

    @Denise, the blog just keeps going downhill, lately…from $500 to $250, at this rate, by next week, some will be telling girls on blog dinner at Chili’s and $25 for gas money is a very lucky SB, hehehe. Girls who are new to blog, do not listen to this crazy nonsense..

  503. flyR says:

    “””However, if a grand would ‘change their life’ they would be better off as escorts.””””

    Totally disagree. There are a lot of modest allowances that comes with respect, nurturing, mentoring, opening doors, new experiences and contacts, and protecting.

    Three of the choices

    Socialize with 22 year old losers , referee farting contests, bring beer and head

    Escort with the dangers and used

    Be a modest allowance SB with someone who cares (I realize that the word care
    is offensive to some here as if it is the social equivalent of Ebola)

  504. sexyrockstar says:

    I know a few escorts that do really well. Amen to them.

  505. Muah says:

    @sexyrockstar
    Lol – If you’re single, no kids and working wouldn’t you be more desirable in an SDs eyes? Maybe not… IDK I’m an SB after all. I could never see myself buying a pair of louboutins – Would I accept a pair as a gift? Fuck yea! I’m not frugal but I don’t buy things I won’t get use out of. Instead of shoes I buy furniture or stuff that fuels my seemingly expensive hobbies (and cc debt).

  506. KennaKenna says:

    @gentleman

    I agree. Cost of living in NYC is sky high so 1k may stretch very far in a small town but that won’t do much in the Big Apple.

  507. Denise says:

    I remember the blog in the past where $500 a meet was the norm for the P4P types. Now it’s $250 a meet? When did that start happening?

  508. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @gentleman- average backpage is $100 full serve…there’s a premium for non-pro…but starting at 1k (250 weekly) is a decent starting point…

  509. sexyrockstar says:

    I meant to put ‘or’ in that list

  510. KennaKenna says:

    @sexy most Louboutins are 1k+ lol. Only the plain pigalles, espadrilles and flats can be bought within that budget.

  511. gentleman soul says:

    @ KennaKenna
    @gentleman where do you live because NYC is very different

    An hour from DC . I will give you that kenna . Small town USA is a far cry from the Big Apple . We should be comparing apples to apples . Standard of living comparison from my area to NYC would probably be Half. So my $12500 represents $25K in NY I would guess .

    @ONSD ”
    The amount I’m willing to commit is based on the monthly amount…” Yeah ,me too Bro but what is your avg weekly number ? Lets call the average SB ,not the Elle McPherson of the Sugar world .

  512. Muah says:

    @Gentleman
    Lol wells I don’t really see it as a problem… Also, I am not here for help lol :)

    FunDude
    Who the fuck are you rambling on to about 30 year old BBWs getting excessive allowances? And is there a point? Lol…

    @Vit
    I just read that I was referred to as a proxy. How dare you!

  513. Denise says:

    lol @ all that bass. I didn’t even know what you were talking about and now I remember hearing that song and seeing that video a few months ago.

  514. sexyrockstar says:

    Idk. If I was single, no kids, had a job (all sugar babies should still work) a grand….hmm

    That’s a new pair of luibitons every month, a fancy ass car payment, new clothes, give that to my dad to help pay mortgage.

    Yeah doesn’t sound bad. But, I’m a bad bitch, and I turn away from that. Lol

  515. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @gentleman – AMEN!
    Local college is less than 12k per year…apartment downtown another 700, so, more than 3k a month should be EXCEPTIONAL not standard!

  516. KennaKenna says:

    @Muah all my relationships weren’t just SB/SD, yes the first one was married but I was the serious girlfriend of the other two and I’m marrying my man now. I’ve had pretty normal relationships just with men with means.

  517. gentleman soul says:

    Muah says:
    April 7, 2015 at 10:35 am
    @Sexy
    I agree! However, if a grand would ‘change their life’ they would be better off as escorts.

    @Muah
    @Sexy
    I agree! However, if a grand would ‘change their life’ they would be better off as escorts. AWW ! That’s not fair ! . An escort is relatively indiscriminate as to who they will see and usually see a high volume . An SB has the choice to see just one guy who develops a special relationship with her . A little different than a Ho wouldn’t you say ?

    @MUAH

    “Apparently, I am excessively spoiled and I never realized. ” You said it ,I didn’t LOL ! And therein lies the problem .

  518. FunDude says:

    Correction: I have explained how a late 30s BBW can easily obtain an allowance of 10K/month.

  519. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Gentleman – The amount I’m willing to commit is based on the monthly amount…if we’ve agreed to a monthly amount and a weekly meeting, i’m willing to give that amount after our first intimate encounter. I’m also comfortable with that amount because if she flakes after the first time, I’ve only given up a week’s amount…if we’ve agreed on an amount for a month and twice a week meetings, I’ll usually make sure we have BOTH meets scheduled before giving her anything, or will break it up per meet the first week or two, moving to weekly to see if she bolts, moving to monthly after I’m more comfortable…

  520. FunDude says:

    @Gentlmena

    I have explained above how easy it is for a big beautiful woman in her late 30s can easily obtain a 10K/month allowance.

    1K/month aint shit.

  521. gentleman soul says:

    @Scarlett

    @Muah, for some of the blog ‘sd’s’, yes, but in real life…or, at least in my experience and those I have known that do arrangements, most certainly NOT.

    “in your experience” maybe so LS ,but I tell you that most SBs are going to sit at home wishing that rare bird shows up ,while their competition are paying for their prom dresses and gas money . OK -maybe tuition too . Tuition BTW at my local large university of 30,000 is $12,300+. So my Sugar baby can pay her entire tuition by seeing me once/week for a few hours at a time . Are you ladies too flush to accept that level of help ?

  522. Muah says:

    @Sexy
    I agree! However, if a grand would ‘change their life’ they would be better off as escorts.

    Apparently, I am excessively spoiled and I never realized. I will say I do prefer pay per meets. Initially I didn’t think I would but it keeps things less stressful for sure…

    @Gentleman
    I don’t think Kenna is a poster child lol – Seriously, we are all expected to want the same things?? I would never want to only have ONLY SD/SB relationships. Now don’t get me wrong – I am not hating on her in any way and I am happy for her! True love is true love no matter how you find it :)

  523. NubianSB says:

    gentleman soul says:
    April 7, 2015 at 10:13 am

    @Gentleman
    Wait less than 1K a month is normal???
    For sure ! I mentioned earlier that I paid my LT SB $3K/month ,but it worked up to that level from $250 /visit. We visited a lot . This blog is unique IMHO because SBs feed on each other’s collective dreams . Nothing wrong with dreaming but the reality is the”masses” of SD and SBs are out there doing deals $ at a time . If you find an SD you really like who will pay you $250 to have a nice evening together,develop some closeness ,and make some fine love together ,are you going to blow that guy off because he won’t stroke a check for $5K ? I would posit that you will be sitting at home a lot listening to the Unicorn stories
    ———————————————————————–
    I see your point! I was under the impression you meant the <1K/month is the starting and ending allowance in a typical SD/SD relationship.
    I do agree to a point about finding an SD who will pay you for a nice evening together. It's like getting your foot in the door…if there's connection and everything else clicks what's to say it won't develop into an arrangement.

  524. KennaKenna says:

    @gentleman where do you live because NYC is very different

  525. KeKe says:

    Feel like crying. I changed my son’s medication because the school said it wasn’t working. Doing a trail today and he’s sleepy and moody. Not happy and hyper. I don’t want a zombie! Fuck that school we are changing. Only reason he goes to that pretentious school is because of his dad.

  526. FunDude says:

    Rich dudes are desperate as shit.

    Its not like they ever date supermodels or women 20 years younger than them.

    They are total creepers who are desperate to give their money out.

    To all the feminist BBWs on this blog, this is my assertion to get a SD:

    1) Go to the Hamptons or Upper East Side of Manhattan. or the Financial District in Chicago
    2) Let the man know how you got “all that bass” and all men BETTER RESPECT BBW women or older women!
    3) Let the man know he is a piece of shit that is lucky to have you
    4) Demand him pay to 10K/month to “hang out” with you because you are fabulous and watch “Sex and the City”

    If all else fails, let him know he can’t handle a “real woman” because he has a “small penis”.

  527. gentleman soul says:

    @Josh and @FunDude

    “Honestly” ,what is your per date number (Oh God -I mean PTP) for a reasonably hot Pot who goes the distance with you for that first night of an arrangement ? I know you guys do PTP instead of paying a monthly salary up front-at least for awhile.

  528. KennaKenna says:

    @ss

    It was a rhetorical question. I already have my dominant successful man, no small penis though lol.

  529. FunDude says:

    Its very simple to get a SD.

    You can be morbidly obese, a feminist, etc. Doesn’t matter.

    Just chat up some rich dudes in the Hamptons and NYC. They will just throw money at any random women because those dudes are desperate as hell.

    Rich men love to give random BBW women their money.

  530. LadyScarlett says:

    Muah says:
    April 7, 2015 at 9:41 am
    @Gentleman
    Wait less than 1K a month is normal???’

    @Muah, for some of the blog ‘sd’s’, yes, but in real life…or, at least in my experience and those I have known that do arrangements, most certainly NOT.

  531. gentleman soul says:

    @sexyrockstar
    …. anything under a grand is not worth it for me. But there are a lot of girls that a grand can change their life.

    There you go -Sexy said it all. We each have our price point that makes any activity worth it . I seek someone who is not spoiled or entitled and appreciates what I can do for her .. There are plenty of highly educated,attractive young ladies to whom $1-2K/month is worth it .

    There are Super lucky Girls out there -Kenna being the poster child on the blog -who grabbed the brass ring . IRL there are loads of my friends who married more in one minute than they could ever earn in a lifetime. If there is ever a next time for me I will be researching and landing one of those unicorns myself .

  532. FunDude says:

    @Josh

    Yes the 38 y/o BBWs on here all get billionaire SDs that pay them 10K/week to walk in central park in NYC.

    Men are made to give their money to women. I mean what else would they want to do with that money? Its not like they want it or anything.

  533. ss1959 says:

    @KennaKenna said: “We all have our turn-ons, I just like a dominant successful man. Maybe I am really shallow though? Lol”

    If you really are shallow then you better find a dominant successful man with a short little penis. 😉

  534. Josh says:

    “This blog is unique IMHO because SBs feed on each other’s collective dreams .”

    😉

  535. FunDude says:

    Reasons men shouldn’t get married:

    {{http://thoughtcatalog.com/janet-bloomfield/2015/04/5-reasons-no-man-should-marry-and-1-reason-he-might/}}

  536. gentleman soul says:

    @Gentleman
    Wait less than 1K a month is normal???
    For sure ! I mentioned earlier that I paid my LT SB $3K/month ,but it worked up to that level from $250 /visit. We visited a lot . This blog is unique IMHO because SBs feed on each other’s collective dreams . Nothing wrong with dreaming but the reality is the”masses” of SD and SBs are out there doing deals $ at a time . If you find an SD you really like who will pay you $250 to have a nice evening together,develop some closeness ,and make some fine love together ,are you going to blow that guy off because he won’t stroke a check for $5K ? I would posit that you will be sitting at home a lot listening to the Unicorn stories .

  537. sexyrockstar says:

    …. anything under a grand is not worth it for me. But there are a lot of girls that a grand can change their life.

    I’ve met some lovely men that can only do 1k. Is that a salt daddy? Not exactly. But, just wouldn’t be enough to make me stay.

  538. FunDude says:

    Had some kind of Mexican food that drug reps brought in.

  539. Promise says:

    @FunDude What are you having?

  540. Melissa/Josh'sProxy says:

    @Vit
    Excuse me…why was Melissa in that group of proxies? I’m clearly (look at my name) Josh’s proxy. Get it right

  541. FunDude says:

    Lunch Break.

    What is UP today?

  542. NubianSB says:

    *Please explain @Gentleman*

  543. NubianSB says:

    Muah says:
    April 7, 2015 at 9:41 am

    @Gentleman
    Wait less than 1K a month is normal???
    ———————————————————————
    Haha…I was thinking the same thing. Please explain @Muah.

  544. NubianSB says:

    DarkHorseSD says:
    April 7, 2015 at 8:34 am

    Hi Nubian,

    I haven’t read since yesterday afternoon, but I think I’m looking good for something Wednesday late afternoon, around 5?

    Not sure what venue to pick.
    ——————————————————————–
    Wednesday 5ish works for me. As for venue, depends on what you’d like to eat/drink. I just want red wine lol

  545. KennaKenna says:

    @ONSD haha, I agree. I think men who want “platonic” are usually full of shit.

  546. Muah says:

    @Gentleman
    Wait less than 1K a month is normal???

  547. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @HoToTrot – I still think that guy will want sex…either that, or he’s recruiting for this cool new job opportunity where you get shipped off to an exotic location and a lot of other people get to have sex with you…

  548. HoToTrot says:

    Some men have sexual issues or they might be gay. I don’t think its out of the realm of possibility. Some just want arm candy, nothing more.

  549. HoToTrot says:

    “I am looking for a woman 18-45 who has a love for life, traveling, different cultures and new experiences. Ultimately, I am looking for a platonic relationship- I’d prefer your company more than anything else.” Verbatim

  550. sexyrockstar says:

    @online
    Lol. You two have fun today. Buisness meeting. Awww. Look at both your incomes slowly grow! All thanks to the help of sexy rockstar.

  551. Josh says:

    What type of language they use in their profiles? Do they say that they are looking for “platonic” relationships or are you inferring?

  552. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Sexy – thanks for dragging drummer to lunch the other day…I’ll tell him you said “hi” today 😉

  553. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @HoToTrot – There has been discussion about SB profiles putting “no sex” just to weed out the guys looking for “just sex” and I’ll hazard a guess that at least 2 of the 3 SD profiles you saw that say “platonic” are doing that to broaden their prospective SB pool until the first meet…I’ll even go so far as to say that at least 1 of those 3 would propose a meeting at a hotel (or a restaurant connected to a hotel)…

  554. HoToTrot says:

    One was 48, the other two in their mid 50s

  555. Josh says:

    What are those SD’s ages?

  556. HoToTrot says:

    For those who say men don’t want platonic relationships- that’s mostly true. However, I was browsing SA today for about an 30 minutes and came across 3 looking for that type of relationship. I don’t want that, but it’s possible for those who do.

  557. sexyrockstar says:

    @dls
    If you think an SD will be comfortable shelling out a monthly allowance right away, you’re on drugs my love.

    I see ZERO problem with starting out a per date thing for a month. Then work up to a monthly allowance.

    This is all about building trust with someone. I hate discussing allowance before meeting

  558. sexyrockstar says:

    @promise
    Look in near by big cities. There are SDs every where

  559. sexyrockstar says:

    ….I just flat out told my dad I’m a gold digger. We had breakfast today, and he tell me how our waiter is attractive and I should give him a shot (my dad is a regular at this place) I told him “no. He’s a server. ” my dad asked what does that have to do with anything. I said “dad, I don’t date men that makes less then six figures” ….he asked how much money drummer (of course he knows his real name) makes.

    I said
    “At least six figures. This is why I’m exclusive to him. ”

    ….my dad laughed. I think he thinks I’m kidding. …..

  560. Promise says:

    Done with school for the day. My hunt continues. I’m starting to think there aren’t any real SD’s in Massachusetts.

  561. DarkHorseSD says:

    DOM/sub – I get a kick out of sending last night’s sb into the kitchen to make me tea.

    Hey – we could spcome up with abbreviations : SB, sb, Sb, sB to signify different types in the dynamic.

    And bS could be for batShit.

  562. DarkHorseSD says:

    DirtyLittleSecret says:
    April 6, 2015 at 3:18 pm
    I was thinking about possibly reactivating my profile but weeding through the P2P and the fakes is so exhausting. Goodness gracious.

    xxxxxxxx

    Are you a paying member? It certainly is tedious, and how many times have I said so!

  563. BethSB says:

    NubianSB says:
    Oh Beth don’t encourage me lol. I work from home so that’s verryyyy tempting lol
    ……………………………………………………………………
    hahaha well there you go. You work form home. HAVE FUN with that wine but don’t over do.

  564. DarkHorseSD says:

    Hi Nubian,

    I haven’t read since yesterday afternoon, but I think I’m looking good for something Wednesday late afternoon, around 5?

    Not sure what venue to pick.

  565. NubianSB says:

    Oh Beth don’t encourage me lol. I work from home so that’s verryyyy tempting lol

  566. BethSB says:

    NubianSB says:
    April 7, 2015 at 8:23 am
    So I’m sitting here working (well, pretending to work since I’m actually reading SA blog lol) and for some weird reason I’m craving a glass of red wine. I have an open bottle but should I or should I not? It’s 11am here…
    ……………………………………………………………………….

    That was me last night. Red wine and steak. was lovely.
    drinking on the job might not be such a good idea. but if you think you need a glass, then you make that call

  567. NubianSB says:

    So I’m sitting here working (well, pretending to work since I’m actually reading SA blog lol) and for some weird reason I’m craving a glass of red wine. I have an open bottle but should I or should I not? It’s 11am here…

  568. KeKe says:

    @Gentleman…that was online who had that experience. Lol. I have a huge Akita who doesn’t fit in my bed. Thank god. Lol

  569. gentleman soul says:

    @Blogettes Avatars
    Beautiful girls all !

    @Struggle
    “Guys just want girls to be happy (…and a happy girl loves sex, let’s be honest.), first and foremost.” Well said Struggles !! Attitude is everything. When SBs put sarcastic in their profile I “Next” them .

    @ DirtyLittleSecret
    “Anybody else going through a dry spell lately? I removed my profile from here and the POT kind of fizzled” .
    You are a hottie for sure DLS. I am finding it hard to find the right girl myself .

    @ HoToTrot
    My current is a great guy, but we clash I just wonder if we have what it takes to last…and if maybe I should keep my options open.

    You won’t make it -you are already shopping for the next one .

    @KeKe
    You WILL want to do something though…there’s nothing that’ll wake your man up more than a cold wet nose on his taint!
    Ahh -great memories ! My ATF Asian SB had 2 little terriers who slept in bed with us. It was so odd having my balls licked clean after—well ,enough said . I realized one crisp bite would change my life forever .

    @Muah
    Less then 1K? Also disgusting lol. That is the norm Sweetheart. you ladies here are hungering for unicorns . Can’t fault you for trying .

    @Denise
    1. Married Cheater
    2. Mid 50s ( I haven’t been in a relationship with anyone over 33)
    3. Under 1k allowance but wants intimacy
    Well again ,that would be the majority of SDs on SA Unmarried ,30 yr olds who pay 45k /month are 0.1% of the population you are searching in .

    @DLS re: Asians
    @Gentleman, where would that be?
    DELMARVA area. Asians command a 50% premium. I love them ! Size 0 Busty,beautiful glistening Black hair ,and subs

  570. KeKe says:

    @Kenna.. Burpee! I can’t even do 10. Lol

  571. BethSB says:

    KeKe says:
    April 7, 2015 at 6:34 am
    I’m pretty sure I will have to work up to no rest. Lol. Get out of bed you lazy slug! Lol
    ……………………………………………………………….

    @Keke YES MA’AM!!
    like i said it’s whatever you’re comfortable with.

    So let me indeed get out the bed and get my stuff done.
    Have a great day babe. TTyl

  572. KennaKenna says:

    @Keke that exercise is called a “burpee”.

  573. KeKe says:

    I’m pretty sure I will have to work up to no rest. Lol. Get out of bed you lazy slug! Lol

  574. KeKe says:

    Cool! I do regular stretches. I just haven’t done any specific ones for the abdomen.

  575. BethSB says:

    Haven’t done mine yet. instead i’m in bed chatting with you guys. lol o.O
    PS: i have no rest days and my reps are more than what i sent to you, most days.
    But i recommend you rest twice a week. if you wanna rest once thats fine too, if none thats also fine. You have to know what your limits are. <3

  576. BethSB says:

    @Keke You’re welcome and yes you’re supposed to stretch your abd after every workout. Take it to Google and chose which ones are best for you. :)

  577. KeKe says:

    And thank you Beth!!!

  578. BethSB says:

    @Keke perfect, me too. i plank for a min. sometimes over.
    It all depends on how i’m feeling that day.

  579. BethSB says:

    @Keke and to whom else interested.

    Normal stretch before workout.
    *20 reps- Bicycle crunches (Per side) Total 40 reps

    *20 reps- Russian twist (Per side) Total 40 reps

    *30 sec plank. it might not sound like a long time but when you’re new to the plank trust me, 30 sec is hard to keep up with. lol
    If you feel you can plank longer, go right ahead.

    *Ab stretch.

    Bottom workout

    20 lunges

    30 squats. As you get accustomed just up it by 5

    Good luck my Beauties :)

  580. KeKe says:

    I actually really like bicycle crunches and planks. OMG..I just can’t do one where you pull you feet in and then kick you feet out and then junp up into the air. I’m drawing a blank on the name. They kill me. I rather plank for a minute

  581. ErikTheRed says:

    @batsh*t

    Too late for solo YouTube video. We can somewhat clarify by having GAPeach, Darkhorse, “Keke” and batsh*t all meeting in the same place. Why is batsh*t refusing to meet GAPeach? But wants to meet “keke”? If “Keke” were a distinct person, there is no need to find the word batsh*t offensive: it’s not even addressed to her.

  582. BethSB says:

    @Keke I do it every morning. it gives me more energy through out the day.
    Oh and i use loads of water. I calculated my BMI and the weight i have right now to know how much water i’m supposed to be having per day and i have a water app on my phone which reminds me to drink the amount of water i need to.
    so if i drink an 8oz glass when my reminder goes off, i just put that info in and the app then shows how much more i need to drink before the day is out.
    But my aim isn’t to lose weight, it’s to remain healthy. cause i’m a fatty when it comes to eating. lol I LOVE FOOD! so to say if my diet has something to do with the way i look, i’d say heck no. lol I just keep at my routine and sometimes push harder.
    Yesterday i upped my bicycle crunches to 100 reps and my Russian twists to 60 reps. (per side that is) so in total it would be 120 Russian twists. it was fun.

  583. KeKe says:

    @Beth. I want to try it also. Do you do it every morning or night? Or will you include that information also? You didn’t send yet, right?

  584. KeKe says:

    Wow! Guess I need to make a YouTube video to show that I am real..or how about this. @Erik..I find the words batshit extremely offensive. If you don’t want to talk to me please refrain from speaking to me @Vitesse.. if you truly believe I’m a proxy please follow.. Unlike Lady? I feel no need to engage in conversation with you two from this point going forward…that is all..carry on…

  585. BethSB says:

    @Keke that should be amazing. i’m sure he’ll enjoy it.
    And yes that me. lol i send my routine to the blog for @DLS to try.

  586. KeKe says:

    @Beth.. So far so good! My son a doctor’s appointment during the middle of the day so we just went to the park yesterday. I’m going to take them to the children’s museum this afternoon.

    @Beth are you the one who does the squats and planks for work out?

  587. ErikTheRed says:

    Too late, batsh*t 😉 hehe 😉

  588. KeKe says:

    ….I’m down to be ErikTheRed’s proxy too!…..

  589. ErikTheRed says:

    Hehe 😉

  590. BethSB says:

    Good morning everyone. Hope you all have a lovely day today.
    And @Josh and @FunDude TRY TO PLAY NICE TODAY, ok?

    @Keke how’s the vacay babe?

  591. ErikTheRed says:

    . . . seems the poster* uses . . .

  592. KeKe says:

    Good Morning Everyone!!! (All my proxies wave). Hehe

  593. ErikTheRed says:

    @Vitesse,

    Outstanding detective work. I did find one instance of “keke” using “…”: April 1st, 11:14am, at the end of a post after using “..” in the middle of a post. That seems to be a repeating / almost consistent pattern with batsh*t posts. Seems to me that the post uses “..” when under greater anxiety (posting under proxies and/or in the middle of a sentence or post) and “…” when more relaxed (posting under her own self-acknowledged username and/or reaching the end of a sentence or paragraph).

  594. KeKe says:

    @Vitesse……………….I rather be your proxy or DarkHorse’s. Can we switch that theory around a little?……

  595. Josh says:

    @batshit

    If you think that you will dictate the schedule of repeating the proxy nonsense on the blog then you are wrong.

  596. LadyScarlett says:

    Well, to be honest, I was teasing about ‘proxy investigations’, hehe…and, if people want it dropped, then why keep bringing it up? It was mentioned quite a bit today, but not by me, really 😉

  597. VitesseSD says:

    @LadyScarlett

    Honestly I just wish all this proxy nonsense was over with. Its not much fun to be told you’re not actually real.

  598. VitesseSD says:

    @flyR

    Nah, you’re missing the point, the only way you’ll ever beat women in an argument is if you learn to argue like they do.

    Rules include:

    Change the subject this can include the following, ignore the main topic and nitpick trivial details, and bringing up historic wrongs (nothing is too far in the past).

    Discuss your feelings, your feelings are your own, nobody can tell you that you don’t feel how you say you do. You can never be wrong when you bring up feelings, but you sure can make a guy feel guilty.

    Rephrase and redirect statements into phrases like “No you” then use his own argument against him.

    Ignore Ignore Ignore. If you don’t acknowledge it, it never got said/done.

    If you start to lose yell, when that fails cry, if that doesn’t work storm off.

  599. LadyScarlett says:

    Ah, would not say I would be unhappy…

  600. flyR says:

    Vit you are missing the essence

    everything is 1 point

  601. VitesseSD says:

    @LadyScarlett

    You might not be too happy with the results, I’m not seeing Josh making the same mistake as that group of proxies. Either he’s deliberately making errors on his proxies that he’s not making himself (oddly consistent across the proxies), or he’s not actually behind the majority of them. The same goes for you.

    The irony is you’re the ones who’ve been frequently accused of making proxies, it just doesnt fit with either of you.

  602. VitesseSD says:

    @flyR

    Inbreeding within a tribe would have been damaging, natural selection would have intervened.

    Also if she picked a mate who took over your duties you’d either be already dead, or soon to be dead.

  603. LadyScarlett says:

    @Vitesse, I need to hire you for my proxy theory investigations, hehe :-p

  604. flyR says:

    @ Vit “”@flyR
    “Enemy runs off with daughter -1 point”
    I’m trying to figure out why this is a point loss. Less people to feed, daughter now has a man of her own.””

    She was supposed to remain in the tribe and pick a mate who would take over my duties so I could hang out on SA blog teasing josh……………

  605. VitesseSD says:

    @All

    Before you all start thinking I’m some sort of paranoid nut, allow me to introduce you to our good friend the ellipsis!

    The ellipsis looks like this …

    No I’m not leaving you hanging.

    The ellipsis is written as three periods. ]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellipsis[

    This is rather common knowledge for the majority of the population, however some people on this blog *coughKeKecough* keep making the mistake of typing “..”

    This isn’t just sometimes, its all of the time. This is kind of like if someone spelled sugardaddy sugardady all the time, which in the long haul doesn’t hurt anyone really so who cares. Except multiple people are doing the exact same thing. Its also not a very common error.

    Some people might not care how many periods they use in an ellipsis and use variable numbers of periods. However to do it the same way each and every time? Odd.

    A little bit like two people having the same fingerprints.

    LadyScarlett’s varies in how she types the ellipsis, ergo she’s not one of the proxies. There are however proxies. Look for similarities in the text, they’re quite clear.

  606. LadyScarlett says:

    I do not think lainey is any of those…and, I email with Rebecca, and she is not a proxy..she is nice girl.

    I dunno, have been here awhile, so dont see any of that…Keke a proxy?

  607. VitesseSD says:

    @flyR
    “Enemy runs off with daughter -1 point”
    I’m trying to figure out why this is a point loss. Less people to feed, daughter now has a man of her own.

  608. VitesseSD says:

    @LadyScarlett

    Actually I’m pretty confident that you are not part of that grouping of proxies, however I’m quite confident about most of the rest

  609. flyR says:

    At the risk of giving rise to high 5’s from Josh let me share one of the issues with femininity in general – the one point concept.

    Back in the caves life was pretty simple – pretty much binary outcomes
    Man makes fire 1 point
    Man unable fire -1 point

    Man kills enemy 1 point
    Enemy runs off with daughter -1 point

    Man brings home dinner 1 Point ( size unimportant as it would spoil in 24 hours)
    No dinner -1 Point

    fast forward 4,000 years
    Man disarms carjacker with Krav move saves mother and daughter +1 point
    Man forgets mother in law birthday -1 point

    Man invents cure for cancer, family net worth $500 million, Nobel Prize 1 point
    Man leaves toilet seat up and lights out -1 point

    Man kills off intruding tribe – man dies 1 point

  610. LadyScarlett says:

    Vitesse, seriously, lol! I am pretty content on my own saying what I think…are you another proxy of Josh’s 😉

    @struggles, I am not very happy with that grouping either, hehe…

    This blog is nutso!

  611. VitesseSD says:

    @StruggleIsReal

    I’m not 100% sure on all of them, but KeKe is unquestionably a ‘proxy’ or running a number of ‘proxies’, its hard to tell which one is supposed to be the real one.

  612. VitesseSD says:

    My bad, 504bidden too.

  613. StruggleIsReal says:

    @Vitesse
    @Lainey is NOT going to be happy to be coupled in that grouping! LOL!

  614. VitesseSD says:

    Ok, lets put this proxy stuff to rest.
    LadyScarlett, KeKe, flyR, T., ToddyVibeHigh, Lainey, Muah, Melissa, Denise, and Rebecca appear to be the same person.

    @LadyScarlett did I miss any that you still currently use?

  615. ErikTheRed says:

    The problem with the writings of some alleged Dom characters (most likely fictional characters floated by the same person who chats with them) is the surrealism in their stories. It’s the same as douchbags bragging on some other websites about conning SB’S into having sex with them on false pretense or SB’s bragging about getting tens of thousands without putting out. Those stories are little more than attempts at gas-lighting. On top of that, if a tiny minority of innocent SB’s and SD’s fall for those manipulations, it is more indicative the victims’ mental illness / incapacity being taken advantage of than anything else.

  616. LadyScarlett says:

    Actually, if struggles can verify gapeach through skype(that is good idea)..or, guess I could as well, then will meet her out…but, am skeptical.

    Is quite odd that dom women are so hated on blog..what is it to anyone else? They are not wanting to ‘sub’ any man into submission, who does not want to be. They want men who ‘choose’ to be a sub, and doubt they solicit profiles that do not at least hint at being sub. And, quite the contrary..a real female dom is actually quite rare, from what I have been told. Assumptions from men who do not understand or judge is typical, though, like ignorance in general…

  617. ErikTheRed says:

    Obesity in most cases is the result of addiction to sugar and other types of carbohydrates. Fundamentally it is no different from addiction to smoking, alcohol abuse or drug abuse. Type 2 diabetes and pre-diabetes lead to organ failures as well as Alzheimer’s. Sugar is actually a poison that kills far more people in America today than tobacco, alcohol, cocaine and opioids combined.

  618. ErikTheRed says:

    Preference for obese vs. slim is a little like skin tone (not racial complexion), change over time based on statistical correlation with health / status of the candidate:

    When the society in general was starving, being obese was a sign of wealth: i.e. “fat cat”

    When the society in general is over abundant with junk calories, being able to stay skinny is indicative of not only being able to afford more expensive and healthier food but also having self-discipline;

    When the society was mostly outdoor farmers using had tools, having untanned light skin tone was indicative of high status free from manual labor;

    When most jobs in the society have moved to indoor desk jockeying, having tanned skin stone means being able to afford vacations on the beach and golf courses.

  619. ErikTheRed says:

    @GAPeach

    You have to forgive batsh*t’s refusal to meet you. She is too busy chatting up with every random Dom SB showing up here with surreal stories.

    For what it’s worth, I have been contacted by SB’s who indicate propensity to Dom in their profile. I always replied “I’m not interested in paying to be dominated,” and every single time I got in reply something along the line “what do you mean?” Seems to me that market is already saturated with supply in search of demand. LOL. Frankly, if any man of means wants to be dominated financially and physically by a woman, he can just spend more time with the wife or get remarried without a pre-nup. LOL.

  620. StruggleIsReal says:

    @PI Wolf
    Ah, apologies for having not given credit where credit is due! Good advice, indeed. Over-deliver is the name of the game. I have learned a lot from this blog. From @Josh’s advice about women actively refraining from relationship sabotage, to @Kenna advising us ladies to not be needy SBs, to you expounding upon the benefits of over-delivering… so much great info!

    Always looking for nuggets of wisdom, and appreciate any you (and others) have to offer, always.

  621. KeKe says:

    @PI..I meant, Am I too old for you. Lol. I saw you checked out my abysmal profile. Lol. I was just joking with you.

    I seriously need to log off. Lol

  622. StruggleIsReal says:

    @Josh
    I am inferring that “Susan” is the name of @GeorgiaPeach .
    I’m not concerned about distance or anything. But to put an end or at least a stalemate to the proxy talk for GA Peach, I think that would be nice. No need for a nice woman to be bombarded with such nonsense. Anyways, she seems like a lovely lady and I would love to chat with her regardless of proxy this or that. I have always gotten on best with the elders, and would be honored if she’d have a chat with me. That is all. I don’t see any harm in that at all.

  623. Josh says:

    @Josh’s friend Susan will talk to @Struggles as @GeorgiaPeach and @Struggles would be satisfied that @GeorgiaPeach is an independent person living 1200 miles apart from @Josh.

  624. DirtyLittleSecret says:

    @fundude, I know you weren’t referring to me when you said “third rate.”

    Hey @PIW!

  625. BethSB says:

    What are the guys up to tonight @Josh & @FunDude?

  626. DirtyLittleSecret says:

    This proxy thing is getting out of control.

    I don’t even know who thinks who’s whom anymore.

  627. PI Wolf says:

    @Promise,

    Yes, I believe it is by Wonder Girls. One of them is nice looking too.

  628. Promise says:

    @PI by Wonder Girls?

  629. StruggleIsReal says:

    @GA Peach
    Lovely, it’s so silly easy to prove you’re real. Email me, we will Skype, and it will all be done with.
    struggleisreal02 at gmail dot com .
    I can even do it right now. Please don’t judge though, just finished with a jog outside.

  630. PI Wolf says:

    @Keke,

    You asked – Too old for me?
    Who are you referring to (as being too old for me)?

    @FlyBoy posted – Suppose you met a “significantly attractive” woman on SA. She agreed to meet you twice a week and go on trips with you. Sort of a Sugar Baby/Girlfriend type deal. What do you think is a reasonable monthly allowance for this situation?

    My personal opinion: It depends on what the twice a week meetings are. If they are overnighters (sex included) where we go out, say 6:00PM until 9AM (or noon, if Sat/Sun), then$3,000 – $4,000 allowance would be more than reasonable. If they are only 2-4 hour trysts (dinner, drinks, sex, etc.) then I would say $2,000 – $2,500 is a good number.

    @Struggle,

    Glad to read that you are not the Expensive Type of SB, and you are happy with how you GB is treating you and helping you with expenses! I was the one who stated I prefer to Under Promise and Over Deliver rather than the opposite. 😀

    You got it right. Be a Happy Person. This is very attractive to all people around you, and increases the Fun Factor. Your type of relationship is the best one.

    Kpop = Korean Pop Music. The best example is “Nobody But You”, which you can search in YouTube. I like it.

  631. Promise says:

    I haven’t had ice cream in a really long time, and got an ice cream sandwich with a friend earlier today. Has cream always been that sweet? I’m so sleepy now. ~^~

  632. KeKe says:

    Night Georgia. Getting off online as well

  633. GeorgiaPeach says:

    Well, I have a 6:30 am early rise and need to leave my house at about 7:30 in the morning, after a very long drive south from VA to GA home today, so I’m going to say good night to all, even you Dr. FunDude. Sleep well. Tomorrow is another day.

  634. KeKe says:

    @Georgia. I did that! I just need my abdomen to get flat. My Lover said stop losing weight and just do sit ups. But I figured that wouldn’t work. :-( I can’t lose anymore breast. Lol

  635. GeorgiaPeach says:

    * I always lose more on “top”

  636. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @KeKe
    Great! I’m excited too!
    And no, spot reduction does not work. I always loose more on “top” at first before I lose where it’s needed more (lower). LOL

  637. KeKe says:

    Okay Georgia. I’m so excited!

  638. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @KeKe
    I will be delighted to meet you when you visit our southern city in May.
    Let me know and we’ll set up something. I had told Lady Scarlett I would meet her this Wed, but she’s apparently flipped out and so sure I’m “Josh” that she won’t even respond. I thought if I met her in person, she could see for herself, but she’s apparently determined to believe her own lies here. Her choice, but I would love to meet you for lunch when you are here.

  639. KeKe says:

    Does spot reduction work.

  640. KeKe says:

    Lol @Josh! Now my stomach is hurting from the abd work ou and laughing at you and FunDude

  641. KeKe says:

    @Georgia..ah dang I was really hoping we could all meet up in May when I’m in ATL.. dream..DEAD

  642. KeKe says:

    OMG.. This abd work out is killing me. My core sucks!

  643. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @Promise
    I didn’t realize Latin had made a YouTube.
    I’ll think about it, but it’s funny to me that folks are so willing to take the word of a supposed “batshit” crazy female with such a history here and won’t believe me when I post my info, profile id… I mean who would make my life up people? I don’t know anyone who would want the life I’ve led in recent years. I mean, Josh is just a nice guy who was kind to me when I first got here, more so than some I might add and now… well when you call me a liar, it’s like calling him one too and it’s not appreciated. I know the reality here for me. I’m an old woman in a young ladies game. But I have been having such an amusing time and it’s brought a chuckle to my day at times. So…

  644. Josh says:

    @Promise

    Don’t you worry. I will get my friend Susan to post a video as @GeorgiaPeach the same way I got my friend Maria to post video as @latin. 😉

  645. Josh says:

    @KeKe

    “@FunDude every time you feel the urge just post dots (….) so we can look at your gravator in silence. Lol”

    Brilliant observation indeed. 😉

  646. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @KeKe says: “@FunDude every time you feel the urge just post dots (….) so we can look at your gravator in silence. Lol”

    TOO funny. I love it! And I agree with you.

  647. Promise says:

    @GP you could post a YouTube video like @latin did.

  648. KeKe says:

    @FunDude every time you feel the urge just post dots (….) so we can look at your gravator in silence. Lol

  649. KennaKenna says:

    And they say I’m shallow because I only have gone out with successful men with means. Guess what? Success, ambition and power turns me on just like a hard six pack and big biceps turn other women on.

    Notice I said success and not money But money does come with success. We all have our turn-ons, I just like a dominant successful man. Maybe I am really shallow though? Lol

  650. Josh says:

    Bingo. Both @Josh and @GeorgiaPeach post at the same time from the same computer, yet again. 😉

  651. GeorgiaPeach says:

    Yikes!
    Duke & Wisconsin TIED at the moment. 54-54. Whoa

  652. Josh says:

    Sabrina Rubin Erdely, the cunt who literally concocted the now-discredited Rolling Stone report did not apologize to the men whose lives she ruined.

    “Reporting on rape has unique challenges, but the journalist still has the responsibility to get it right. I hope that my mistakes in reporting this story do not silence the voices of victims that need to be heard.”

  653. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @FunDude
    “@Georgia For a second, I thought you actually were in Virginia and were a real person. But batshit set me straight. I know you are posting from the EXACT SAME computer as Josh.”

    Since when have you ever listened to batshit? LOL. I don’t know how I can prove to you that I am indeed a separate, FEMALE person from Josh, but if you can think of a way, please let me know. I’ll be happy to oblige you any way I can to stop this nonsense. That goes for anyone else here.

  654. FunDude says:

    @Keke

    Ok I’ll be nice lol

  655. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @FlyR
    Thanks Honey.
    I tend to agree with you, but you should see the male face light up when the subject of “dominance” is brought up. He seems to really want that control.

  656. KennaKenna says:

    @Hot but if you’re really looking- it’s almost Memorial Day and the hamptons is full with men with means- old money, new money, tech money, hedge fund money lol so try to be there and mingle.

    Last summer I met so many prospects and men even approached me, I was happily taken though… That made me realize that if I ever was looking again, especially in NYC, it wouldn’t be on SA.

  657. FunDude says:

    @Georgia

    For a second, I thought you actually were in Virginia and were a real person.

    But batshit set me straight. I know you are posting from the EXACT SAME computer as Josh.

  658. KeKe says:

    @FunDude..that’s just unnecessary! Do we have to argue every day. Can’t we just move on from yesterday?

  659. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @FunDude
    She sure is Honey Pie.
    And she’s back in GA now, so get a grip, ya hear now?

  660. KeKe says:

    @FlyR..I think you stated that much better but it was what I was thinking. It’s like role play. Your not going to do every night but it’s fun on occasion.

  661. FunDude says:

    @Kenna

    Its too late for hot.

    She’s too old and BBW. Sorry to break the news.

  662. FunDude says:

    Josh must be reading the MRA sub reddit

  663. FunDude says:

    Josh,

    Batshit was getting concerned. Just making you’re ok brah.

    Fortunately, your proxy who posts from your exact computer GeorgiaPeach is still on this blog.

  664. KennaKenna says:

    @Hot ooh I know that type, my man is a mix of that plus modern tech guy. Give it some time though, don’t mess up “somewhat sure” by chasing “unsure/unknown”- I almost made that mistake.

  665. flyR says:

    @GP – “@flyR
    So what if the SB just wants a little dominance, like having her wrists and ankles tied or she’s blindfolded. Is that the SD being “dominate” or just kinky?”

    I do not classify that as even real kink…….. it may be dominant for the SD but if you take a step back it may be more dominant why women normally feel “pressure” to reciprocate pretty much every step of the way while many of us are content ( for a period of time ) to simply lay on our backs giving thanks to god . Cuffs and a blindfold leave the woman to do nothing but focus on what she is experiencing and anticipating, until someone looses the key . Falls into games rather than dom or sub in my book.

    Just one opinion

  666. Josh says:

    @FunDude

    “Im getting worried about Josh.
    Where is he at? Does he have a stomach flu or something?”

    Take it easy. I was busy with business stuff.

    Also, I am reading some serious shit like Rolling Stone’s retraction of the idiotic rape report, Reddit’s CEO’s idiotic new push about salary equity, etc.

  667. FunDude says:

    LadyScarlett aka Batshit is getting concerned about Josh’s wellbeing and hopes to speak with him again soon.

  668. FunDude says:

    Im getting worried about Josh.

    Where is he at? Does he have a stomach flu or something?

  669. KeKe says:

    @FunDude.. you are too much. Lol

  670. KeKe says:

    @Kenna this is just a hot ass mess! I’m so disappointed. I only have one piece out of 7 that fits and it’s clear it won’t fit by my birthday for my Vegas trip.

  671. FunDude says:

    @KeKe

    I usually grow on the more self assured and attractive women.

  672. KeKe says:

    @FunDude..you grow on me each day. Lol

    @Georgia..I’d say kinky unless that’s the only way they have sex and/or can get off

  673. HoToTrot says:

    @Kenna
    I’ve attended the Metropolitan Opera and gone to Lincoln Center events with him and a few of his friends. We met in October at an event. He saw me in the lobby and handed me his card. I thought, “I’m not calling a man. Rude” But, I eventually did. He said, “I was wondering when you’d call.” And he had his assistant schedule our first date at Carnegie Hall. He shows me Old World New York. That’s what I love most.

  674. GeorgiaPeach says:

    @flyR
    So what if the SB just wants a little dominance, like having her wrists and ankles tied or she’s blindfolded. Is that the SD being “dominate” or just kinky?

  675. FunDude says:

    @Keke

    Come on. Listen to half of the stories. Its obvious lol

    Josh has been pretty silent. Josh is usually posting 24/7 on here.

    WTF Josh, you sick brah?

  676. KennaKenna says:

    @Keke omg I hate when that happens, or too short!

  677. flyR says:

    @ Scarlett “‘Currently it is a wishful thinking but with proper organized effort, mind rape could be classified as a crime and men would get respite from such daily mental abuse from women.’”

    Our military officers are now required to inspect the workplaces and bunking areas of their troops to confiscate offensive material such as the Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition which has been deemed by the administration to create a hostile workplace environment.

    Perhaps men should organize to prohibit the television channels from being tuned to the mind rapists

  678. KeKe says:

    @FunDude..ever the gentleman! Lol

  679. KeKe says:

    Ugh!! Everything I ordered is either too little or too big! I’m so annoyed.

  680. flyR says:

    First class travel – Very successful friend traveled a lot with women. He always paid their was as that was the way a Texan lived. He always traveled coach, at the end of each year he (and the woman if he was still dating her) would total the difference in airfares and he would donate the difference to charity . Often $100K per year. An SB who wants first class to an initial meet is trolling for the stupid, the very needy or the very evil. She might accidentally hook a whale, but the odds are against it.

    Domm’s on SA – I don’t have a large sample but in the process of helping a 30+ intelligent , attractive SB on the other side of the country she wanted try putting a hint of dom in an update of her profile. Within days she had 3 very serious prospects from the DC area (she was nearby) and found one substantially above her expectations. I have no idea (or interest in ) the depth of the market but it is certainly here. I think the moral of the story is product differentiation. Don’t try to appeal to everybody;the one size fits all profile may get a lot of looks and responses but the authentic focused profile is more likely to be successful.

  681. FunDude says:

    Most of the SBs on here are obviously third rate.

    You can tell by their story telling.

  682. KeKe says:

    @Hot..nah my Lover comes from humble beginning and worked his to the top over 26yrs. :-). But he’s quickly becoming my love.

    @Josh.. my sincerest apologies. I mean that.

  683. HoToTrot says:

    @KeKe
    My first true love (nonSD) was a German guy I met here in NYC. Was a scientist at Sloan Kettering. Your guy better not be my guy, LoL. Now he came from one of those families with REAL money. They had a pharmaceutical company in Northern Germany. I had no idea about sugar back then. I was so dumb.

  684. KennaKenna says:

    @Hot

    Do you hang out with his friends/crowd? Is he okay with you having another SD?

  685. Josh says:

    KeKe

    “BWAAAHAAA..That was some funny shit right there.

    Come @Josh..admitt it. You laughed”

    My apologies @Keke, mind rape is as serious an issue for me as orifice rape.

  686. GeorgiaPeach says:

    Hello Folks.
    I’m back.
    All the way from the mountains of SW Virginia with a smile on my face and a tear in my eye. My Dad is having a really difficult time since my Mom passed last June. He was crying when I left this morning. It was SO hard to leave him. They were married over 63 yrs.

  687. HoToTrot says:

    My current is a great guy, but we clash in so many ways. Politically mostly. He’s older and stuck in his ways and he’s distant. He’s not a young guy with money, he’s been insulated by wealth for a long time. He hangs out with the socialite/blue blood crowd. I’m a middle class Black chick from Middle America. I’m not intimidated by him, but I respect him. We have fun. I just wonder if we have what it takes to last…and if maybe I should keep my options open.

  688. KeKe says:

    Have you written a letter to your local congressman/woman? Taken this very serious issue to Capitol Hill yet? It starts with one person to go out and get this done…Sitting idly behind your computer is not saving any males from mind rape, at this moment…

    BWAAAHAAA..That was some funny shit right there.

    Come @Josh..admitt it. You laughed

  689. Josh says:

    Respectful exchange with a Domme who contacted me…

    SB: Hello there.

    SD: Request to view your private photos.

    SB: I’ve just given you access to my private photos, go to my profile to view them.

    SD: Hi

    SB: Hello. How are you today?

    SD: I am good. What do you have in mind?

    SB: Depends on what you’re looking for. I can be somewhat flexible.

    SD: Flexible from what?

    SB: I’m a Domme, if you’ve not already gathered this.

    SD: I am not a sub…now what? 😉

    SB: Good luck to you then.

    SD: Same to you dear. 😉

  690. LadyScarlett says:

    ‘Currently it is a wishful thinking but with proper organized effort, mind rape could be classified as a crime and men would get respite from such daily mental abuse from women.’

    Have you written a letter to your local congressman/woman? Taken this very serious issue to Capitol Hill yet? It starts with one person to go out and get this done…Sitting idly behind your computer is not saving any males from mind rape, at this moment…

  691. KeKe says:

    Lol.. thanks for clarification… why not change it to Hot2Trot

  692. KennaKenna says:

    @Hot

    Ooh okay. But you want another one?

  693. HoToTrot says:

    My youngest aunt had a beautiful red car we all called Hot To Trot. It was spicey and sexy like her. Hence the name. Not Ho To Trot. Just for clarification…

  694. KeKe says:

    @Trot…awe that sucked for him. Hope this works out for you. I like the idea of long term arrangements.

  695. KeKe says:

    @Josh..see above response. Lol

  696. HoToTrot says:

    @Kenna
    My man= SD

    @KeKe
    He said his last SB moved away.

  697. Josh says:

    @KeKe

    “@Josh.. how is that mind rape?”

    Regular men are not the audience for dommes or domme-wanna-bes. Their style of participation is sort of mind rape…not as painful as the mind rape by the female in the relationship, but painful nonetheless.

  698. KeKe says:

    What I think happens is that those women come on here talking about their “activities” and are then ridiculed because the men they are dealing with represent such a small segment of SA. But they should still be allowed to blog about it. Sd’s don’t have to feel compelled to respond to it because they disagree with it.

  699. Josh says:

    @LadyScarlett

    “Mind rape can be hot, though…”

    For other wackos vagina rape is “hot”. However, at this time orifice rape is a crime and mind rape is not.

    Currently it is a wishful thinking but with proper organized effort, mind rape could be classified as a crime and men would get respite from such daily mental abuse from women.

  700. LadyScarlett says:

    Most SD’s, in general, do not come to the blog..it is very small percentage and usually same men posting here daily…

    Mind rape can be hot, though….

  701. KeKe says:

    @Josh.. how is that mind rape?

  702. KeKe says:

    @Trot..will/did you ask why things ended with his last SB?

    And I think it’s awesome you spent veterans day with a vet!

  703. Josh says:

    Speaking of sub men, if those men come here and express desire to hook up with dom SBs then more power to them.

    What I have seen in the past 1+ years is that dom women show up with their nonsensical blog posting approach and argue with regular SDs while claiming that “some men” who are so gosh darn powerful in their everyday live that they want to get off with dom SBs.

    Again, more power to sub SDs to hook up with dom SBs. However, stop the mind rape of the rest of us. Jesus Christ!!!

  704. KennaKenna says:

    @Hot*

  705. LadyScarlett says:

    ‘Josh says:
    April 6, 2015 at 6:23 pm
    @batshit has a Phd in talking about “some men” who do/want X.

    Of course, “some men” do all kinds of things including hiring women to shit on them. But almost ALL men don’t want to have anything to do with that shit.’

    Rude. clueless. that is all 😉

  706. KennaKenna says:

    @Ho when you say you have a man, do you mean a SD or bf?

  707. Josh says:

    @HoToTrot

    “The very first SA “date” I ever had was with a man who wanted someone to spend Veterans Day with him. He was a war veteran. No sex was involved. We spent all day in walking Central Park; ate at Tavern on the Green. I got $150.”

    Ripped a veteran off on Veterans Day? Bravo!!!

    Whatever happened to giving free blowjobs on veterans on Veterans Day? tsk, tsk…

  708. Josh says:

    @batshit has a Phd in talking about “some men” who do/want X.

    Of course, “some men” do all kinds of things including hiring women to shit on them. But almost ALL men don’t want to have anything to do with that shit.

  709. HoToTrot says:

    Thanks @KeKe. The very first SA “date” I ever had was with a man who wanted someone to spend Veterans Day with him. He was a war veteran. No sex was involved. We spent all day in walking Central Park; ate at Tavern on the Green. I got $150. Strange but true. I enjoyed myself. This guy I’m meeting tomorrow seems like a traditional SD. He said his last lasted 3 years! I won’t get my hopes up. I have a man already anyways. But, I am curious.

  710. KeKe says:

    Good Luck on your date @Trot!

  711. HoToTrot says:

    Oh and @Nubian, I got your email. Thanks. We’ve gotta hookup. Sounds like you and Dark had a REALLY good time Saturday.

  712. HoToTrot says:

    Date with POT tomorrow. Excited! He seems really cool. We both agreed we didn’t want a long drawn out email romance. I hate that. Email a few times and meet immediately is what I like. I’m not much of an internet gal, but we’ll see.

  713. LadyScarlett says:

    😉 hehe

  714. KeKe says:

    lol….Lady wants to spank someone!

  715. LadyScarlett says:

    Yes, I love to hear the doms perspective on blog, and the sub women, too because I have always been sooo vanilla my whole life, pretty much, so interesting to hear about it..

    My past, well, current sometimes SD from last year…he made a comment that he wanted me to watch him with another woman because he sees how big my eyes get, when he says certain things(he is very hedonistic, and says naughty things sometimes)…I wondered if it was a humiliation thing for him to do to me, but, maybe, just a kink..but, don’t think I could do that…Being a little dominant, if the man liked that, well could see myself doing that, more…

  716. KeKe says:

    @Lady. I agree. These men are not weak in their day to day life. Some men like the release of giving up control of their pleasure since they are in control of so much in possibility their work life. There are different strokes for different folks. Why ridicule it because it’s not your thing.

  717. LadyScarlett says:

    I mean, they are still in control, so that does not make them weak…it is their choice, in that they want to be dominated, as a sort of release…from what I have heard and read about it, anyways…

  718. LadyScarlett says:

    I have have said this before, but oftentimes the male in a very high position, in their career, are the ones who are subs in private…I have heard this from two women I know, who are doms…I cannot speak from my own experience, but it makes sense…It is a sort of release, but they are in control because they want and allow themselves to be dominated…

  719. KeKe says:

    I’m not a sub but I can stroke a man’s ego with the best of them. Most men do not want to be dominated not even in role play. But I can usually get away with it by making it all about his pleasure.

  720. LadyScarlett says:

    I disagree…the ladies who have come onto blog, such as uncommonSB and other doms, have been very respectful to others. It is the ones who do not understand or judge that are bitchy and rude. I find it interesting that those who are not interested in the female dom/male sub dynamic are so judgmental just because they prefer sub women. Why be so rude just because you do not fancy that dynamic…It is not all that rare, either…I have never done the dom/sub thing, but it is interesting to me..and have thought about it for awhile…there are quite a few men who have approached me, on SA, seeking that dynamic, or are interested in it, as well as profiles I have seen. It is sad that so many judge, when they are not even educated on the matter and think that all sub men are weak, ect. I would say it is weak to judge and put down something you do not even understand.

  721. FlyBoy says:

    ^^^^^^^

    I fully agree with @Josh. Financial Domination is so rare that talking about it is likely to be interpreted as a fantasy story.

    Cheers :)

  722. Promise says:

    @Josh That was weirdly inspiring.

  723. Josh says:

    Re: Dom SBs and Sub SBs.

    Has anyone noticed…the submissive SBs are cleaning house by making umpteen amounts of money, and getting respect, from their loving and appreciative SDs.

    The dom (or dom-wanna-be) SBs come to the blog and shit all over the map with wacky whining, bitching and complaining. :(

  724. Josh says:

    @Denise

    “A sugar sub is a man that wants to worship YOU. I flirt, tease and they aren’t allowed to get off unless I tell them to. If they do something naughty like play without my permission they pay a penalty:) I so enjoy tease and denial games:) Total turn on!”

    Dream on. The number of SDs here who want to pay to be humiliated with your style of dom is the same as those who want women to shit on them. Never say never…and dream on.

  725. FunDude says:

    I suggest all bodybuilders and better looking guys go for BBWs.

    Leave the hot ones to me.

    Denise can have the Big Handsome Men.

    All problems are FIXED

  726. Denise says:

    BHM= Big Handsome Man. Those groups are small on fet. There other groups for BHM that are called “For people that aren’t shallow”. Yes apparently if you’re not into big guys you’re shallow yet those are the same guys loving every thin model picture they can find.

    I had a guy send me a message (nice thin muscular guy) he was in 30 different BBW groups yet all of his picture likes were of thin women. So he contacts me thinking “maybe we could hook-up”. Nope sorry first I don’t do “hookups of any kind” and second I’m not a BBW. He tried that ooh I love ALL WOMEN. Haa desperation isn’t sexy. Blocked!

  727. flyR says:

    ONSD “@ALL – how do you answer the question “Do you trust me?”

    Putting on my Bill Clinton hat, it all depends on the meaning of trust……. Do I trust that you can shoot the apple off my head with the Ruger 1911 knowing that you are a great shot? Do I trust that you will not run off with a) some unearned allowance, b) my credit cards, c) my car d) breach whatever mutual promises we have made or some serious misrepresentation.

    The question is almost a loaded as , do these pants make me look fat?

    The best answer might be a Rogerian answer, something that might elicit her sharing some kind of misrepresentation.

  728. KeKe says:

    No not really. I have a profile wwith no pictures. Lol. I was nervous that my Lover would find me on here. I meet him IRL and jokingly mentioned I was looking a SD when he flirted with me. . Which grabbed his attention. It’s been going strong since then. But from the beginning he has been very adamant that he doesn’t pay for sex. That he’s helping a friend. It has been gradually evolving into something deeper. I think he would freak if he knew I was on here. I started freaking that he might Google SD/SB and find me. I’m crazy. Lol. I waa about to take it down completely until he told me his company is sending him back to Germany at the end of the year. :-(

  729. BethSB says:

    DirtyLittleSecret says:
    April 6, 2015 at 3:18 pm
    @KeKe, are you still active on here?

    I was thinking about possibly reactivating my profile but weeding through the P2P and the fakes is so exhausting. Goodness gracious.
    …………………………………………

    I know exactly which you mean, I’ve gotten weary but I’m still keeping at it. Persistency my Darling. :) you’ll be fine

  730. StruggleIsReal says:

    @Keke
    “@Struggle.. peeing and pooping. You got me beat. Lmao”

    I have never felt more attractive. LOL

  731. BethSB says:

    @Lady ahahahaha oh yes he sure does.

  732. DirtyLittleSecret says:

    @KeKe, are you still active on here?

    I was thinking about possibly reactivating my profile but weeding through the P2P and the fakes is so exhausting. Goodness gracious.

  733. KeKe says:

    @DLS..I had a 5, almost 6 month drought. I feel your pain.

    @Struggle.. peeing and pooping. You got me beat. Lmao..

  734. LadyScarlett says:

    @beth, think Donald Trump agrees with that as well, hehe…

  735. KeKe says:

    @Denise..* raises hand* Pick ME ME ME MEME ME!! I want a sugar sub! Lbs

  736. BethSB says:

    LadyScarlett says:
    April 6, 2015 at 2:56 pm
    @Denise, what is BHM? And, I heard Rosie Odonnell quote something similar to what you just wrote, in reference to when her and her model girlfriend were in Mexico many years ago…she said they were out, and the men hit on her, and not her thin model girlfriend at the time, and she could not understand, so the guy said ‘bone is for the dog, meat is for the man’, or something like that…

    Just fyi, find Rosie obnoxious and gross, though…

    ……………………………………………

    Thought I was the only one who thought this.

  737. DirtyLittleSecret says:

    I haven’t been intimate since January and I love sex. I just don’t want to give it away if it’s not a regular bf/gf relationship or a sugar relationship. At this point I’m not really looking for a bf so a sugar relationship seems most appropriate for my situation.

  738. DirtyLittleSecret says:

    Anybody else going through a dry spell lately? I removed my profile from here and the POT kind of fizzled. I think mainly because I can feel they’re not the real deal and not willing to do the traditional SD/SB relationship. They were all very nice nonetheless and would give me a few hundred just to go to dinner and try to court me…

    I don’t have many girlfriends and I don’t want to go by myself to the high end places to sugar. Does anybody have any other advice where I could meet POTs without looking like a hooker or making it obvious I’m looking for POTs IRL?

  739. LadyScarlett says:

    @Denise, what is BHM? And, I heard Rosie Odonnell quote something similar to what you just wrote, in reference to when her and her model girlfriend were in Mexico many years ago…she said they were out, and the men hit on her, and not her thin model girlfriend at the time, and she could not understand, so the guy said ‘bone is for the dog, meat is for the man’, or something like that…

    Just fyi, find Rosie obnoxious and gross, though…

  740. Denise says:

    @Nubian

    I still remember my mom saying “OMG don’t spread my ass cheeks so far apart!”

    I prayed for Jesus to smite me, obviously that didn’t happen haha
    ————————————————————————

    Lol!! Brain Bleach Stat. That’s horrible haa!

  741. Denise says:

    *your

    I really hate this font. The letters are all spaced out.

    @Keke

    @Denise.. what is a sugar sub?

    A sugar sub is a man that wants to worship YOU. I flirt, tease and they aren’t allowed to get off unless I tell them to. If they do something naughty like play without my permission they pay a penalty:) I so enjoy tease and denial games:) Total turn on!

    I’ve been contacted by a few handsome cuckholds on here that want to provide quite the lavish lifestyle. Problem? You have to be promiscuous because their kink is about being sexually humiliated and demeaned. I’m not even sexually active right now and even if I was I couldn’t stomach sleeping around. I usually tell them to go over to fetlife but they’re just not attracted to the majority of women there (BBW range and up to SSBBW).

    Thinner women are there but when you look around and see 300+ BBW groups and 3 thin groups, you realize you are the new minority in the states.

    I will say when I first signed up to Fet some of the BBW ladies would be the first to attack you. After awhile I think that vibe has changed to a more cooperative “eye of the beholder/ beauty comes in different shapes, sizes, colors,etc”.

    As with all things there’s always some douchebag that would throw a bone out there and sits back to see what stupid low self esteem woman wants to grab and run with it. Usually it’s a comment like” Real Women Have Curves” some thin shamming shit or worse Marilyn Monroe was a BBW. No bitch again she was a size 4 tops at the height of her career, go look up vanity size changes around that time. I want to scream Don’t fall for it! He just wants to sleep you with the lights off!

    Then you see that same woman post a thread about how she slept with some guy in a pitch black room for a month and he finally says “Ohh I’m not attracted to your body type”. You’ve been had.

    I’m just sitting there thinking if the guy only wants to see you between midnight and 4:32am chances are he doesn’t want anyone to see you with him.

    What types like FunDud doesn’t realize is that there are men that really do love big women. I’ve had guys tell me on that site “you’re too thin for me to date” and they are thin themselves. Others men that are attracted to BBWs happen to be body builders. Yes I know if you go to a body builder forum you’ll see comments that state just the opposite but I’ve seen men on there that proudly marrying up BBW women. Again. Everyone has their type.

    Ohh I just remembered a rude BHM commented on one of my pictures and said ” Bones are for Dogs”.

    My response: I’m surprised you can type with that shit clumped up under your paws you clumsy ass canine! Haha!

    Fetlife can be a really fun place:) lol

  742. FunDude says:

    Most of those pussy White Knights acted like tough guys because he was a small dude.

    Get a bigger guy doing that and most of these pussies wouldn’t do shit.

  743. StruggleIsReal says:

    @Keke
    OMG. Hahahaha Some of the best things in life are the stories that moms have to tell about how their kids humiliated the crap out of them.
    You think your son was bad for knocking clothes off a rack?
    My little brother went into the middle of one of those circular clothing racks, at a JCPenny I believe, and spun around PEEING on all of them!
    My other brother POOPED in a Sports Authority! Oh my god, anytime my dad tells that story, my whole entire family is in stitches over it for hours!

    I’m such a little asshole… when I was little, I apparently saw a rather large woman, and very loudly announced, “Look mom! That lady is fatter than auntie!” Yes, my aunt was right there with us. Kids, I tell you.

    @Muah
    OMG HAHAHAHAHA I just spit my water out!!! About the spreading of the ass cheeks comment… hahahahaha!!!!

    @ONSD
    Yay! GB can be there, or not, just depends on when and if others have significant others in tow as well. Def wanna Sexy there and Drummer too if it works out! And would love to meet your chica! This is turning into quite a fun get together if I don’t say so myself!

    “there’s nothing that’ll wake your man up more than a cold wet nose on his taint”
    OMG. Hahaha You guys are killing it with the laughs today!

  744. FunDude says:

    Always interesting to read this shit after work. Then people wonder why Islam is growing so rapidly.

  745. FunDude says:

    Another interesting social experiment:

    {{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNrWuZV3jjw}}

    The misandry is unbelievable in this society. Got to stop reading the MRA website.

  746. KennaKenna says:

    @ONSD thanks for that piece of advice- will start crate training ASAP.

  747. KeKe says:

    @Nubian. It’s windy. We finally got them up!

  748. FunDude says:

    Reality of Domestic Violence:

    Notice the difference in response between men and women being abused. Interesting who the REAL VICTIMS are of domestic violence in this society.

    {{https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtVHnZX8E50}}

  749. NubianSB says:

    @BethSB -Yeah hella sexy I am! lol. Thanks :-)

    KeKe says:
    April 6, 2015 at 12:42 pm

    At the park…why is it so hard to get a kite up!
    ————————————————————————
    @Keke Is it windy? You need at least 5-20 mph winds and make sure your back is to the wind.

  750. FlyBoy says:

    For the record I have no problems with “proxies”. I just wish there was some contrast. Alas, all we get is X copies of the same :(

    Cheers :)

  751. BethSB says:

    Should see**

  752. BethSB says:

    Lmao @NubianSB if you’re apart of anything for me you must be hella sexy. Which I am positive you are.

    ………………….…………………………….…
    @Muah yes they are amazing dogs for sure. You would see them with my 2yr old. its the cutest.

  753. NubianSB says:

    Can we be done with this proxy thingy already! Ughhhh!!!
    I am a proxy for @Josh, @Dark, @Fly, @Georgia, @Keke, @Kenna, @Latin, @Sexy, @FunDude, @Lady, @Beth, @Lainey…Infact I’m a proxy for every blogger!!! There i said it!
    Dang it! Come on people!!!!!!!!!

    Oh Hey everyone :-)

  754. NubianSB says:

    @DarkHorseSD, Tuesday or Wednesday late afternoon?

  755. NubianSB says:

    Muah says:
    April 6, 2015 at 12:11 pm
    LOL – I was like 10 and my parents were just getting home from a party and thought I was sleeping (my door was mostly closed) Some how I woke up/wasn’t sleeping – I still remember my mom saying “OMG don’t spread my ass cheeks so far apart!”

    I prayed for Jesus to smite me, obviously that didn’t happen haha
    ————————————————————————
    hahahahahahah….Gosh! hahahahahah…that is hilarious!

  756. Muah says:

    @Lady
    I agree it is odd. And I agree that he practically lives on the SA blog lol – every blog ever created. It is what it is :)

  757. Muah says:

    @Fundude
    Lol yea that is true – Silly people. Fat shaming is wrong and unnecessary… Preference shaming is just idiotic. Pretty much shaming anyone for anything they do that has absolutely zero effect on your life (or any other person’s life) is stupid.

    @Beth
    I love dobys! They’re such good looking dogs with great personality. My parents had a Doberman when I was born – He was 120 lbs and loved me to pieces. I love all dogs but tiny dogs are convenient for apartments :)

  758. LadyScarlett says:

    @Muah, the proxy thing is silly, I will admit, but the thing is…I have not gone around accusing anyone else of it but Josh. And, the funny thing is, when I first started posting here, it was Josh who always accused me of being a proxy of a woman he was always arguing with(so, assumed he was projecting)…I did not even know what a proxy was at that time..

    The reason I think he has fake personas here, besides others pointing it out before, and the fact Josh being on the blog most days 24/7, is due to an app I have, which shows someone’s location, and it was very funny that Josh’s and GaPeach’s email location showed up in the exact same city, when they have emailed me…just very odd. And, it was not a server issue from their email.

  759. BethSB says:

    @fundude your face isn’t in the picture and that’s what I’d like to see please.

  760. FlyBoy says:

    @Denise:

    To be rejected by a woman is par for the course as far guys are concerned. It is what it is.

    On the other hand to be rejected by “fatties” ………… Yeah, nothing short of the abomination of desolation.

    Cheers lol :)

  761. BethSB says:

    @Muah I know. Lol that is one cute fur baby you got there. Unlike the 3 I have, Doberman mixed with rottweiler and Tibetan terrier, I cant put them in my purse at all.

  762. FunDude says:

    Cool story denise lol

  763. FunDude says:

    @Muah

    I agree that hypocrites are on both sides.

    The only difference is there is NO organized movement of fat men calling out fit women about their “preferences” and “fat shaming”.

    @Beth

    <<< Fundude is pictured in his gravatar!

  764. Denise says:

    @FunDud

    @Denise

    “You have high expectations considering you probably bring nothing to the table in terms of looks or personality.”

    Incorrect again. You remind me of a closet case always talking negatively about gay men but just can’t stop talking about them. I think you’re not fooling the blog on your hate for the “fatties”. I bet you sit on BBW sites begging for bjs and only call them fat when they reject you. Typical closet case chubby chaser.

    Sorry I don’t qualify for you size desires. I’m too thin for you!

  765. Muah says:

    @Beth
    Yes I wear that dress well :)

    I don’t think anyone is a proxy. The oldies on here use that to piss each other off lol.

    @Denise
    Herpes? Fucking disgusting. Less then 1K? Also disgusting lol.

  766. BethSB says:

    @Muah well you are one cute fur baby.
    But wait a min, who are you answering for @josh or @Fundude? Lol someone might have a proxy indeed. Hhmmm

  767. Denise says:

    Oh I almost forgot…

    One really sweet guy contacted me on here. Problem?
    1. Married Cheater
    2. Mid 50s ( I haven’t been in a relationship with anyone over 33)
    3. Under 1k allowance but wants intimacy
    4. He has herpes.

    I sat there thinking wow umm where is the good news? Remember I said he’s really sweet or at the very least came across like a really warm hearted guy but I was gobsmacked that he contacted me in the first place.

    I thought ok he’s not lying about his STD so that’s a plus and then of course I have friends that obviously have it. Acne doesn’t show up on the face in the areas I’ve seen it appear on them but still I’m not seeking to introduce myself to herpes on purpose. His honesty was what endeared me to him but the married+ super low allowance+ age+ herpes made me think “nope stop with the heart string tug you aren’t truly a nice guy”. I even wondered did he contract herpes after cheating on his wife and did he give it to her? Once my mind started doing the “what ifs” I just couldn’t stay logged in any further.

    I mean really? I honestly was waiting for the guy to say ooh that 1k allowance is per day and I’ve already ordered my full body latex, zentai suit complete with matching gimp mask.lol Sadly that message never appeared.

    I’m obviously not mad at the guy. I’m more so upset with how my ovaries got the better of me.

  768. Muah says:

    @Beth
    My gravatar represents how I look precisely :)

  769. Muah says:

    they’re*

  770. BethSB says:

    And @Josh

  771. Muah says:

    @Fundude
    The whole fat acceptance movement or whatever annoys me as well. Just because you are big doesn’t mean EVERYONE has to find you attractive. Some of those people also think that skinny shaming is not wrong or bad either… Shaming anyone over their body type is wrong period.

    And if you read my statement I already said that men can be attracted to whatever their are attracted too… Lol, thanks for reiterating what I already noted :)

    Also, there are plenty men with shitty personalities (among other things) that demand women find them attractive and be soo grateful said man is “attracted” to them. Hypocrites are found in both genders my dear. Only complete morons who are superficial and shallow – truly believe that the most important thing is how a person looks.

  772. FlyBoy says:

    Testing!

  773. BethSB says:

    I’d like to know what @FunDude looks like.

  774. FunDude says:

    @Muah

    Big girls can be attracted to anything they want to be attracted to.

    Men can be attracted to ANYTHING they want to. If men don’t like FAT women, then thats fine as well.

    The hypocrisy of the whole issue is that fat women are demanding men ACCEPT them while being fat.

    @Denise

    You have high expectations considering you probably bring nothing to the table in terms of looks or personality.

    @Promise

    Yeah its common these days for hypocritical fat ladies to desire for a six pack man. Just like fat men desire for a HOT female.

    The difference is that FAT men aren’t DEMANDING hot women accept them and better be “attracted” to them.

  775. KeKe says:

    At the park…why is it so hard to get a kite up!

  776. KeKe says:

    You WILL want to do something though…there’s nothing that’ll wake your man up more than a cold wet nose on his taint!

    LMAO.. Gross!

  777. KeKe says:

    @Muah.. The are respectful. Thank Goodness. They just get so overly excited. They lose their minds for a minute. Lol. Like my son broke his TV screen flipping around pretending to be teenagers mutant turtle… Sorry kid I’m not buying another TV. Share with your sister. Oh that’s way better than any spanking! She just wants to watch princess movies. Oh he hates that. Lol

    I really don’t spank much. I don’t want them to be scared not to tell me something out of fear that they will get in trouble.

  778. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Kenna – after crate training your puppy will be much easier to handle…when you’ve got baby at home, you might even find puppy “hiding” in the crate to get a break from the chase the baby will be putting on puppy…until baby finds out how to climb into crate WITH puppy and close the door so they’re both inside! That’s happened for me a couple of times…it’s all quiet and I look and the dog is looking through the wire crate with eyes like “get this damn kid out of here…I wanted to be ALONE!”

    Also…our dog now knows “go to work” where she will run back to the crate for a treat when we know we’re going to be gone for a while or we know someone is coming over that is uncomfortable with the dog…but…she also knows “time out” when she’s bad and goes back to the crate without a treat, covered up and light’s off because she was bad!

    You WILL want to do something though…there’s nothing that’ll wake your man up more than a cold wet nose on his taint!

  779. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    Yeah, I wouldn’t take a SB to the house…WAY too personal a space…also…I don’t know, but I consider the house sacred, you know?

    @Struggle – Let’s get it scheduled! Maybe drummer can join us with @Sexy and student can join me…would you be with your SD?

  780. Muah says:

    LOL – I was like 10 and my parents were just getting home from a party and thought I was sleeping (my door was mostly closed) Some how I woke up/wasn’t sleeping – I still remember my mom saying “OMG don’t spread my ass cheeks so far apart!”

    I prayed for Jesus to smite me, obviously that didn’t happen haha

    @Keke
    I think kids can learn respect without being spanked – but I don’t think there’s anything wrong with spanking your kids. If you don’t do it often it can be pretty effective. So many people don’t teach their kids respect at though nowadays :( I was a hyper kid. I would disappear in stores, hide in racks, point out smelly homeless people… When I was four I went the the “f” word phase. Once I got lost in a thrift store, thought I found my mom (I was like 5), ran up to her grabbed onto her leg – It wasn’t my mom and I started screaming bloody murder. I was a peach lol.

  781. KeKe says:

    @Struggle..it’s all funny after the fact. During it all I want to pull my hair out. I swear they are the reasons my edges(hair) are thin. I just found out that they don’t spank in Germany. We and my Lover were talking about it ( I spank). He’s all, “please don’t spank the princess and prince”.”They just need more love” Me: “okay, I will stop” But in my head,”I’m gonna beat there ass if they show out”. Lol
    My kids are terrors. My best friend has 6 kids. So well behaved. When we come over I hear an audible *sigh*. I remember my son being 3 and making snow angels on the floor of Walmart. That shit was embarrassing. Or the time he knocked all the clothes off a shelf. .And I pretend another kid did when I told the clerk. I thought it couldn’t get any worse. ….And then I had my daughter O_O

  782. StruggleIsReal says:

    @Kenna
    I totally forgot about the pup! When did you guys get her? It must be quite recent? Omg I bet she’s so cute!

  783. KennaKenna says:

    @Muah

    I think I heard my parents once before, thank god I never saw them lol.

  784. KennaKenna says: