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4 Sugar Shopping Destinations
  • Posted Nov 11, 2014

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’Tis the season to shop ’til’ you drop, right? Wait … when is it not? While not all relationships focus on material goods, many do. November and December are the prime shopping months in the United States, but many shopping centers just don’t make the cut. There are more than 200 malls spanning the 50 states, but these four deserve your holiday attention.

King of Prussia Mall, King of Prussia, PA

King of Prussia, or “KOP” as the locals call it, is the largest shopping mall in the United States. Yeah, yeah, you thought The Mall of America was “the onet,” but that’s a common misconception. We’ll get to “MOA” later.

King of Prussia is anchored by luxury retailers like Nordstrom and Neiman Marcus, but the influx of attainable and luxury boutiques are what make the KOP experience. Shoppers can peruse retailers as fine as Hermes and as accessible as Forever 21. Need a midday break? KOP offers seventeen sit-down restaurants and more than fifty order-to-go selections. Don’t wait to visit this Philadelphia suburb—it’s worth the 30-minute drive from the city center!

Woodbury Common Premium Outlets, Central Valley, NY

Many may be thinking, “An outlet mall? Yeah, right!” but think twice before you deny yourself discounts at exclusive retailers like Chloe, Burberry, Reed Krakoff, and Gucci. If you’re not interested in designer fashions, this may not be worth the trip, but let’s be real—who isn’t interested in high-end clothing and accessories at deep discount? Woodbury is also an excellent locale to pick up holiday gifts from retailers like Longchamp, L’Occitane, and Toys Я Us.  Check out Woodbury next time you’re near New York City.

The Mall of America, Bloomington, MN

We’ve already established that, contrary to popular belief, The Mall of America is not the largest mall in America. However, it is still frickin’ huge and makes for an excellent shopping destination for families and groups touring the Midwest. The Mall of America may be the only facility anywhere to boast a theme park, aquarium, and flight simulation center in conjunction with traditional retailers like Coach, Nordstrom, and H&M. Should you find yourself near Minneapolis, don’t deny yourself the experience.

South Coast Plaza, Costa Mesa, CA

South Coast Plaza is the largest shopping center anywhere on the West Coast. Situated in central Orange County, this mall features many luxury retailers, but also boasts many off-site outlets like Nordstrom Rack and DSW. Enjoy the best of both shopping worlds, but be sure to make an excursion to nearby Laguna Beach for a romantic evening with your partner in shopping!

Where will you be shopping this Holiday season?

 


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989 Responses to “4 Sugar Shopping Destinations”

  1. estopa says:

    congratulations

  2. Mario Green says:

    Shopping!You really put her as a child? after all, you are not Santa Claus to meet all her fantasies. This isn’t transactional—there’s no tit-for-tat quid pro quo in Sugar relationships—but it shows a testimonial of fidelity over the previous year.

    • Rat says:

      just more delusional stuff written for 18 yr olds to keep them on the site to become hookers to keep SAs money flowing in. just ignore it

  3. hockeychick18 says:

    Wish I had a sugar daddy to take me to any of these places

  4. Mintox says:

    Yes melbourne is the place to go for shopping prior to xmas :O

  5. domincanluvbetta says:

    try vanitypinkboutique.com …best stuff designer shit for reasonable …sellout fast tho

  6. macickasub says:

    definitely the indoor/outdoor malls in Riga =) so beautiful and filled with history.

  7. Cubbi says:

    I just moved to IL and i have no clue about any malls, anybody here want to show me around 😉

  8. If i could actually find a REAL sd, then maybe I could go shopping, I found one before, there has to be another

  9. VegasVirgo says:

    Las Vegas, NV has some decent shopping too

  10. Mimi says:

    I wanna go to shopping!

  11. Josh says:

    @crystal

    Create a Matrix of support system the members of which go shopping with you and put up with your pickiness.

  12. Christina says:

    Good Morning everyone! I hope you all have a Happy Thanksgiving tomorrow.

    I am hoping to go shopping tomorrow but will see what happens lol.

  13. crystal says:

    Ive always loved shopping but nobody will go with me i take too much time trying stuff on im picky im sorry at 95 lbs and under 5 foot i have to be choosy about clothing or i look like a child playing dress up

  14. Chloe_101 says:

    Please reveiw my updated profile! : )
    Profile number: 1929149

  15. Chloe_101 says:

    When I stated that I “deserved” one. I was meaning i deserve to meet a man that will treat well overall. You never heard a female say “I deserve a good men”?

  16. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    Outstanding profile!

    One understands she has been thinking about -and invested time- to write it.
    I think that in itself must be a very promising tought for pot. SDs!

    Really, it is not that hard to stand out of the completely boring, uninspiring crowd, full of “outgoing” “princesses” who want, and “deserve”, to be “spoiled” and are looking for a “partner in crime” to have “fun” with.

    For Christ sake, BE ORIGINAL!!

  17. Josh says:

    @Chloe_101

    How did you determine that you “deserve one”?

  18. Chloe_101 says:

    Me too! I deserve one, a sd who is cool, fun and generous.lol

  19. Gary says:

    Wish i had a guy to spoil me :)

  20. Chloe says:

    Thanks! I liked the idea of listing my qualities instead of writing them in sentences. I keep the theme have being a “Scorpio”, but listed out the qualities that make me who I am; also connecting some to being a “Scorpio”. I added 3 more different pics. So we shall see… LoL

  21. SouthernSB says:

    New blog up.

  22. Josh says:

    Check this out. Don’t mimic her. Get ideas from her. Her profile is a nice balance of flirtiness, playfulness and sharing information about her specific self instead of writing generic personal ad sentences that don’t mean much.

    ——————

    About Me

    The top 10 reasons I have been rated as amazing:

    10. I am a firm believer in the benefits of lingerie instead of “comfortable” underwear.

    9. I tend to not nag or complain because chances are I am oblivious to and really don’t care about the “small stuff”. Besides, complaining is hard work and chances are you won’t change so why waste my time and try your patience.

    8. You will be excited to take me out in public and your friends will probably be jealous, because yes I always should look put together or at least just rolled out of bed hot, which ironically takes more time than nonbedded hot.

    7. You will never have to compete with me…unless we go bowling and in which case, it’s on.

    6. You will be surprised when I kiss you unexpectedly, a little too passionately and more than likely in unexpected places, in front of unexpected people.

    5. You will never see me roll my eyes at you, because I respect you. If I didn’t I wouldn’t be wasting my time with you.

    4. You will see me smile and laugh far more often than I frown and definitely more often than I cry.

    3. You will find yourself thinking seriously about my observations on life and current events, random events and as always celebrity gossip, because I am well informed and intelligent.

    2. You will never hold my purse at the shoe store. You will never even be at a shoe store, unless you’ve determined my shoes are inappropriate and have decided to buy me new ones.

    1. You will never hear the most dreaded words ever, “I’m not in the mood”.

    Those are some of the top reasons I’ve been rated as amazing, I have references and am more than willing to present a portfolio. So go ahead send me a message, I don’t bite…unless you want me to.

    What I’m looking for

    The arrangement is open for negotiation depending on our individual wants and needs. I am a consultant for a XXXX company that serves the XXXX sector. I travel frequently to 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, and various parts of 8.

    —————-

  23. Chloe_101 says:

    Okay, so I deleted the photos and read some of SassyB’s comments. However, I did not say anything about my page being boring. I am seeking some suggestions at “my” profile. For example, if I include too much or least in certain areas.

  24. Chloe says:

    Okay, so I deleted the photos and read some of Sassy B’s comments. However, I did not say anything about my page being boring. I am seeking some suggestions at “my” profile. For example, if I include too much or least in certain areas.

  25. Josh says:

    I think you used mysterious in your profile not exotic. Sorry.

  26. Josh says:

    This crappy auto correct changed bullshit to jumpsuit. What a fucking prude.

    Actually when I wrote fucking it changed it to ducking but I was watching. LOL!

  27. Josh says:

    @Chloe_101

    Just because you’re non-white does not make you “exotic.”

    Lose all photos except the one on bench with big bag and the one in red outfit, sitting with some picture in the background.

    Your profile is largely jumpsuit that’s found in 90% of female profiles.

    Scroll up and read advise given to SassySB with her profile.

    Good luck!

  28. Josh says:

    @SassySB

    “@Josh – Oh, are you suggesting you think he wants to buy the oldest service?”

    The “oldest service”, if you go by the Bible, is what a man provides to his woman. Free of charge mind you, and sometimes even loses his life. That is, to screw around with the big guy just because his woman egged him on to do so… “be a man” still works with many a men. 😉

  29. Chloe_101 says:

    Profile number: 1929149

  30. Chloe_101 says:

    Oh, thanks for the honest by the way! : )

  31. Chloe_101 says:

    I never really had any problems in the looks department, i have a nice figure, butt and no boobs; for now. LoL. In regards to how i dress and carry myself. I was taught from a young age to care about my appearance and all of that stuff. In regards to what i do i am finishing my last year of college online and working full time within my field. My profile is (Chloe_101)

  32. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – that was what I thought, but wanted to verify…

    Oh, and I agree that there needs to be a new blog topic, because this is almost too long to try to scroll through on my tablet, let alone my phone!

  33. SassySB says:

    @Elaine + everyone

    EW I am so not going. Thanks, guys.

  34. Josh says:

    @ONSD

    My post about SA approval was related to the girl who needed thousands of dollars and was literally begging through her profile.

  35. Elaine says:

    @Sassy

    “because he won’t text or message or talk before the meet (using the excuse that he isn’t here for a cyber fling).”

    Ok, now knowing this: DON’T GO!
    You are NOT losing an opportunity to lose a potential good SD.
    He is a scam artist, a Splenda, a creep or a predator.
    In worse case; all 4 of them.

    IF you should decide to go; As long as you don’t provide traceable information about yourself (not easy!), stay in the lounge and take a cab, you should be quite safe.
    And you will only loose your time …

    And no, he probably DOESN’T want to BUY the oldest service, he wants it for free!

  36. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Sassy – I think, if he isn’t TRYING to connect with you, there is no connection and he is certainly looking for either the oldest service, or he wants to take it without paying for it…

    IMHO – If the SD doesn’t want to communicate, it’s not even worth your time to ask the blog or continue down the rabbit hole! You should certainly call him out on his lack of communication and not feel bad if you offend him…because…he’s being a D-Bag!

    Okay, end of advice from a married and very private SD to a very naive pot SB…as @Josh has said, it seems you’ve made up your mind to meet, in spite of significant guidance AWAY from meeting…good luck…god speed…I hope you are around to tell us how bad it was, because at least then you’re not in a ditch somewhere or part of a slave program!

  37. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – was your comment about the profile being approved directed at the text I posted, or the guy from @Sassy?

  38. SassySB says:

    @Elaine So you think it’s pretty safe as long as I stay in the lobby

    @OnlineNewbieSD The problem is I have 0 connection with him right now, because he won’t text or message or talk before the meet (using the excuse that he isn’t here for a cyber fling).

    @Josh – Oh, are you suggesting you think he wants to buy the oldest service?

  39. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    *do

  40. Josh says:

    @ONSD

    You will soon see a “womanly” advise from a blogger. 😉

  41. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – who so you think should continue to advise @Sassy?

  42. Josh says:

    @SassySB

    “Or how I can make this situation more safe for me without risking offending a potentially great SD (his profile is very appealing, even without a photo).”

    As I suspected based on blog history @SassySB IS going to meet this dude. I hope that other bloggers (except one) stop ADVISING any further.

    Good luck @SassySB…

    I can’t say that I am looking forward to hearing your sob story, but you will post it anyway. :(

  43. Josh says:

    @SassySB

    “@Josh I’m just wondering what you mean by giving SA negative proof against him”

    When you report a member to SA they want proof of wrongdoing. If they communicate through SA, then the SA staff has instant access to the communication between you and them.

  44. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Sassy – Look at it this way…if you think you’re going to offend the guy by suggesting someplace AROUND THE CORNER to meet, instead of in the hotel lobby, you should reconsider the connection you might have with him.

    Notice, I said “suggesting someplace”…if you do a little legwork around the suggested hotel, you are showing SIGNIFICANT interest in the SD and I would think that would be rewarded! Also, if you add a story like I use “meeting here would allow a better ‘story’ for us if we bump into someone either of us know” it should not be offensive AT ALL…if he takes the suggestion and the backstory as offensive, there are too many pots out there to worry yourself about the D-Bag that just wants to use you and throw you away!!!!!

  45. Elaine says:

    @Sassy

    “As long as you ABSOLUTELY DON’T GO TO HIS ROOM!! Stay in that lounge!
    Something tells me that going to his room is what he is going to propose…

    And make sure to arrive and leave by cab!
    If he turnes out to be a creep, he cannot follow you when you walk to your car.”

    “DON’T GO TO HIS ROOM UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!”

    What you need to know more? :-)

  46. SassySB says:

    @Josh I’m just wondering what you mean by giving SA negative proof against him

    @OnlineSD That’s what I’m thinking, too, and I *hate* when they want to meet in a hotel lobby, but I don’t know how to decline a hotel meeting without offending them, especially because a friend in the bowl has actually met a read SD that way, so I can’t say that it’s certainly a scam. Any suggestions? Or how I can make this situation more safe for me without risking offending a potentially great SD (his profile is very appealing, even without a photo).

  47. Rebecca says:

    Oh.. lol. Then no, don’t meet him. And this is coming from someone who meets a lot of weirdos. ;P
    There are too many men on SA who are willing to act normal and send photos and a number.

  48. Elaine says:

    @ Rebecca

    @Sassy just told she HAS no email adress, number, career or photo!
    And he doesn’t even want to message via SA either.

  49. Elaine says:

    @ ONSD

    Sexy profile!
    Contains everything pot. SDs are looking for: drama and desperation. :-(
    Think the SDs will line up for her…NOT!
    All it will attract are predators.

    Gosh…This is not sad, this is plain stupid.
    Even if she is a rinser, it is not cleverly done.

  50. Josh says:

    Whoever approved this profile at SA needs to be trained a bit more.

  51. Rebecca says:

    Sassy, I have found identities without a photo. Google his email address, number, possible name and career. 90% of the time, I know their identity before the first date. It is sometimes a bad thing because I have to remember what they told me or I’ll blurt out their real name.. Oops. I personally do not meet guys who don’t share a photo even by email.

  52. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Sassy – I agree with Elaine…How are YOU supposed to know which guy he is in the lobby, if he hasn’t shared a pic?

    Sketchy at best…downright dangerous at worst!

  53. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    All the SBs – I had a new profile hit my search this morning…the desperation in the profile makes me lean toward a rinser, the fixer in me makes me want to help, but with the way it’s written, she doesn’t want to understand and do better in life, she wants someone to pay for her mistakes so she can make them again!

    “Im truly hoping and praying for some financial assistance from others. I am struggling, stressed over bills! I am not here in hopes of becoming rich but looking for someone with a big heart!I work hard, I try to do the right thing! And still end up in debt! Im slowly loosing hope! I am not sure where to turn! I just need help getting back up on my feet! I need at least $8,000 ! I have to buy a new car, i have my rent coming up, 2,000$ in debt from school! you get it. .Please please please I am asking u to show just a little compassion and help with any amount you feel comfortable with! I am also willing to work from home. I have internet service, printer/fax!/webcam,cell phone. Anything to earn some money! To me every little bit counts, This would be a weight lifted off my shoulders truly! ! In any event I do thank and bless you for reading all of this, and I wish you continued success in your life. My hope is that one day soon I will be able to pay it forward and repay your kindness!! Lets Work Something Out.”

    Just sad from the profile of a stated 24 year old!

  54. Elaine says:

    @ Sassy

    The problem is not the absence of a photo in his profile.
    Only one of my married (ex) SDs had a public profile picture. (Of which I told him it was not a very clever action)
    A lot of SDs don’t have pictures on their profile, or only private ones.
    Being it for private or business reasons.

    It is the unwillingness to share a picture by mail before meeting, that’s the red flag!

  55. Josh says:

    @Kirsten

    Can we have a new blog article please. This page has grown way too fat to load on cell phones.

  56. Josh says:

    @SassySB

    I had written a detailed response but my phone ate it. What specifically do you want me to elaborate?

  57. SassySB says:

    @Josh Can you please elaborate?

    @SouthernSB But if he’s married (he claims his single but ya…and I’m bare down there naturally) I would imagine it would make sense not to have a picture? Has anyone had a positive experience with someone with a photo? I have to admit that he doesn’t have one is off-putting, but then again I’m not here for his looks.

  58. Josh says:

    @PointedShoes

    I never said women don’t like dildos. 😉

  59. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – I thought Julia Roberts made the kiss the ultimate level of intimacy? hahaha

  60. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Sassy – As a married SD, I do not like to give out personal details either for privacy…however…A Hushed number is cheap so I can send and receive text AND phone calls…Creating a gmail account for email communication is easy and just as private when it is not linked to another account…and not using SA’s messages to continue the conversation between scheduling and meeting is just plain strange! I have one public picture, with a couple of private pics. I only open my private pics to someone after a couple of emails on this system, when she has a complete profile and a couple of pics of her own. I don’t think there is ANY family above that level of privacy…

    I’m with @Elaine and @Southern – questionable SD to begin with…meeting at a hotel lobby initially is another yellow flag to me. I would rather meet at the coffee shop around the corner…if someone I know bumps into me in the hotel lobby and I’m meeting a woman, there are questions…if someone I know bumps into me at a coffee shop meeting a woman, there is a simple business explanation and never a question!

    Be careful!!!!!

  61. Josh says:

    I’d be surprised is @SassySB listens to any of what is advised to her. If historical blog posts are any indication, whining about men’s douchebagness is far more exciting for women than playing it safe to start off with.

  62. Josh says:

    @ONSD

    “there should be the same guilt for sucking and kissing as there is for intercourse, in my opinion…”

    You’d be surprised how much women will let you do to them short of penis penetration into their vagina. 😉

  63. SouthernSB says:

    @Elaine
    Exactly!!! Anyone who won’t give a name or at least a picture has something to hide. I wouldn’t go on the date, but it is up to Sassy. You gave her good advice though, DON’T GO TO HIS ROOM UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES!!!

  64. PointedShoes says:

    If women don’t love intercourse, why are dildos a multi-million dollar business? I’m not talking vibrators, I mean dick inside me replicas. Most women love to fuck, if they have a partner who knows how to fuck. A hard cock feels good!

  65. Josh says:

    Anyone who does not want to communicate through SA chat at least initially is ensuring that they don’t give SA instant negative proof to ban them.

  66. Elaine says:

    @ Sassy

    I find it strange he doesn’t want to message , at least through the site.
    If he has a profile here, what difference would it make to message?
    Text, well ok, he might not want to give out his number (but could take a disposable number if he has such high need for privacy)
    I would say: Red flag! Chasing unexperienced newbies.

    Anyway, if you are curious and don’t have to do a lot of organizing or travelling and are curious, you could give it a try and meet in that hotellounge, .
    As long as you ABSOLUTELY DON’T GO TO HIS ROOM!! Stay in that lounge!
    Something tells me that going to his room is what he is going to propose…

    And make sure to arrive and leave by cab!
    If he turnes out to be a creep, he cannot follow you when you walk to your car.

  67. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @flyR – She was late 20’s, had a past pay2play arrangement…she had at least one orgasm while I was oral on her…but I’m not sure either is relevant to her switching the lights off after foreplay, because there should be the same guilt for sucking and kissing as there is for intercourse, in my opinion…

    As for everyone on the eye contact discussion…I agree, there is a difference between eye contact and creepy staring! I absolutely LOVE it when there is eye contact during kissing, foreplay and intercourse…but…if my lover is looking up at my with the “deer in the headlights” stare to try to maintain constant eye contact, I’m freaking out and never going back for more! I expect her to be so into the action sometimes her eyes will close or roll back, as will mine. But, I think the deliberate lack of eye contact indicates either a lack of desire for the partner.

  68. SassySB says:

    I have a POT date this weekend!

    I don’t know anything about him, though – no name, no photo, just his profile’s claim that he’s from a prominent American family, single, and a CEO. He doesn’t want to text at all or message through the site, just meet at a fancy hotel’s lounge in Manhattan. Are those all red flags or is it likely that those are just his preferences and he has an intense need for privacy, as part of a prominent family?

    Advice, please!

  69. ExperiencedSB says:

    @Chloe_101 But generally yes – as a black woman, you have to be a 10 to get what a white 7 will here.

  70. ExperiencedSB says:

    @Chloe_101 Give us your profile number, we can tell you if it’s something else.

    Do you have a college degree (or are getting one) from a prestigious university? Are you slim and toned? Are you eloquent and kind? Are you polite and refined? Do you dress well? Are your allowance expectations reasonable?

  71. SouthernSB says:

    When I was married my husband and I had sex all over the place. We had it in the woods, on the beach at sunset, in between playdates for my daughter, got really close to doing it on the hood of the car, I gave him oral while speeding down the Long Island Expessway, in every room of the house, and probably places that I have forgotten. Sex is suppose to be fun, so why not have it in as many places as possible?

  72. Josh says:

    Well AJ an I went for massage. After the massage while putting clothes on got the idea of a quickie. The rest is history. The staff did knock at the locked door as it was taking a tiny bit longer to put clothes on. 😉

  73. Changing room of a massage parlor?

    Sounds sketchy, babe.

  74. SexyRockstar says:

    @Rebbecca
    A former of mine pops up on my front page too. He was wonderful and generous, but, just kind of a dick. Just that “i am better then everyone attitude” I got annoyed real quick. Quiet confidence is sexy….being hot and knowing it…is sexy. But being all I MAKE A 4732947329743248327 DOLLARS A YEAR LOOK AT MY FANCY FUCKN CLOTHES LOOK AT ME IM A FUCKN ASSHOLE..is not sexy

  75. Josh says:

    I don’t like sex except in the privacy of a house or hotel. But it’s nice to occasionally do it anywhere we can. 😉

    I have done it in a swimming pool, car, backyard, changing room of a massage parlor, came very close to doing it in an airplane bathroom but lack of condom screwed up the plan.

  76. Josh says:

    @Chloe_101

    Few AA girls have reported good experience at SA but most complain about lack of good response.

    I guess it depends on where you’re located, how you look, what you have to offer, and other factors.
    If you ARE young and vibrant then your odds ate better. But if the best thing you have to offer is access to your vagina then you will find SA to be challenging.

  77. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    Thanks for emailing me the photo of the $76K receipt, which I could read…taxes and all…

    Can you bring your boobs back please? 😉

  78. Chloe_101 says:

    So i have tried using Seeking Arrangement once again, during the last few days… I have not receive any messages. I am a black young vibrant woman. Color does not matter to me. But does race matter on here? Honestly. Please advise.

  79. What’s the general stance on taking your SB on a vacation. Generally is it just an all expense paid trip? Or is some sort of allowance also expected?

  80. Lainey says:

    @FlyR it was mini golf. Lol. And where exactly did you get poison oak?

  81. flyR says:

    and Lainey I made the mistake of the rough at the golf course – poison oak is a bitch.

  82. flyR says:

    Lainey

    The public restroom at the golf course is a lot more responsible than the rough with its poison oak.

    Married sex – the airplane, office at the university, rental cars, elevator. construction sites. However I prefer the more relaxed places where I can devote my full attention to my partner.

  83. Sex should happen where ever the urge strikes.

    So long as it doesn’t land you in jail, or on the sex offender registry.

    I have sex with myself in dressing rooms all the time. I seduce myself while undressing, and I can’t resist. Quite erotic watching in the mirror.

  84. Lainey says:

    @Eloquence I’ve had sex just about everywhere. Including a public restroom at a mini golf place. Not one of my finest hours. Although I’m sure he’d beg to differ. Lmao

  85. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Sexy – I would not ask for intimacy, I like @Josh’s no-blog-SB policy. I was only talking coffee, drink or lunch/dinner.

    @Eloquence – I am one who looks for that adventure in Sugar. It is what I miss about dating and do not get in my marriage. I have had wonderful sex at my office, in the shower at the hotel, the jacuzzi tub in the room, as @Josh has said the car can be great, how about the middle of the woods along a trail…lots of great places for sex outside the bedroom, just a matter of finding the right partner to make it the most fun!

  86. Eloquence says:

    When you think of ravishing a woman and all of the fantasy’s to daydream about, the bed seems rather a bore. Does anyone who is married ever have mind blowing sex anywhere besides their bed? No offense to the married people nor for those who only like the bed. Just asking.

  87. I enjoy watching facial expressions, and some eye contact is nice. Not so sure about the deliberate gazing from start to finish.

    Closest things I can think of was a guy who would want to stare into my eyes as he serenaded me in his native language for the duration of the song. He didn’t even want me to blink. If I broke eye contact, he’d want to start over.

    Too much.

  88. Rebecca says:

    Southern, he is a SD. He’s always on the front page. >_>

  89. SouthernSB says:

    Good lord @Rebecca, where do you find these people?

  90. Josh says:

    @Chit chat

    “Rockstar, the SD I talked about had an accident many years ago. The woman went on top and broke his member. He was not into cowgirl after that lol.”

    Stop going out with weirdos!

  91. SouthernSB says:

    Ygbkm-yup, I get to look into their souls and see the real them. I LOVE IT!!!

  92. Rebecca says:

    Rockstar, the SD I talked about had an accident many years ago. The woman went on top and broke his member. He was not into cowgirl after that lol.

  93. @ nicegirl

    He’s a bit older than me, has a kid in college (possibly close to my age). Athletic, runs marathons, great shape. I don’t think he’s too old per se, but perhaps too carnivorous.

    @sexy

    Ha! CrazySexyCool. You rock my world. Lol. I get it.

    Just to clarify, though, my reservation is not a matter of perceived whoredom.

    If I accept the allowance, I could cut down on work, and focus on classes. It’s definitely something to consider, but weighted more on being a connection I enjoy.

  94. Pertaining to dates before an arrangement starts. I have no problem going on several( over 3) dates to see if we are connecting. Sure I will pay for the date. We should be having some physical contact and kissing. But if she asks me for money in any way before we “start” then she is a scam. I’ve had that happen. She said she is not a hooker, and I said I’m not an ATM. I would love to meet a SB who is just looking for mentorship and being taken out on nice dates. The gifts ( cash or otherwise) would come anyway. I think that type of arrangement would last longer and in the end, the SB would benefit far greater then the $ each time SB.

  95. Lainey says:

    @southernSB ME TOO! But I kind of like the control thing. This guy I used to adore (6’3, tan, full head of hair in shape and twice my age 49) that hated that i would chew gum and would make me spit it out in his hand. Hed tell me to get naked the second I’d step foot in his house, also would make me look at him while we were f*cking. I was the youngest girl he had been with I started f*cking him when I was 21. He still calls. I may start to entertain him now that things have gone south with current SD. Current had a mangina! Lmao

  96. SexyRockstar says:

    @Online
    I am in a happy arrangement now. While I do go up there a lot (I do stand up gigs for the comedians that do shows there) , I would never side sugar on him. He keeps me happy. When MidWest and I realized we can’t do it, the friendship offer is there. You’re here for work? Nothing wrong with having lunch with a friend. I am just not giving you a hand job/giving you my panties/dont you fucking dare call me sparky/and yes I will pay for my half :)

    Friends are friends, no matter what.

    ANYWAYS. @YGBKM
    Why not? Just do it? It could possibly be a learning experience. I am sure you’ve dated someone you weren’t too sure about. The GREATEST thing about sugar..is..you an keep your lives separate. He is taking care of your finical needs, and you can have someone you’re truly attracted to to fulfill your sexual needs. It’s hard to find someone who can do both. I’ve learned that the hard way. I kept comparing men to my last (well now, back to being current) SD is. I am VERY lucky he sasistfies me in all ways. He always did. I’ve done dipped outside of sugar, so I have no idea on how this will work for you, but if you can do it, go do it. You’re not a whore for doing so.

    For the ‘looking into the eyes while sex’
    Ladies, this is where we may have to take charge. I’ve slept with men I had 0 connection with, but did it anyway because they were cute (oohh to be super young again) Just, work him on top. Flip that hair, rough him up a bit, rock those hips…but don’t learn too forward. Stay up right…or even better…bring your arms behind you..and let your back follow. He will get a lovely view of your body. Then, reverse cowgirl on his ass. This way, very limited eye contact is made and he gets the best ride of his life. If he looking for passionate sex, just kiss his neck/ears and look at him every now and then.

  97. Nicegirl says:

    @ygbkm – do you mind if I ask his age?

  98. “SouthernSB says:
    November 24, 2014 at 4:11 pm
    I like looking men in the eyes, especially when they orgasm.”

    Syphon their soul?

  99. @nicegirl

    “I am not sure on-the-job training will work at his age either.”

    You might be right. More so, with his experience with relationships. Not sure if I’m up for the challenge of reconditioning.

    To give you an idea, immediately after we discussed the arrangement, he started w raunchy dirty talk. I’m like, hold your gdf horses, cowboy. Geesh.

    I do enjoy his company, but can tell that he has no real concept of foreplay.

  100. SouthernSB says:

    I like looking men in the eyes, especially when they orgasm.

  101. @Sugary

    Good points to consider, for sure.

    Well, we discussed 12 meets within the year. Actually, he says that he wants me to be his part-time girlfriend. I’m not exactly sure where the line falls between bf/gf and sugar relationship, if any place at all. At any rate, he asked what it’d take to be his girlfriend (which he qualifies by sexual intimacy), and I told him that he’d need to regard me as his girlfriend (which I qualify as x,y,z in addition to sexual intimacy). He seems mostly interested in sexual intimacy, possibly because he’d been deprived of it for so long. He’s said before that it’s only a matter or time before I’m his girlfriend, and that he was gonna fuck me one of these days. Ha. Possibly, possibly.

    A month’s allowance might be a better place to start, considering the uncertainties. We’ve been acquainted for sometime, but there’s been no real courting. He seems a bit removed from the process being that his experience in a relationship has been more a matter of monetary appeasement. I think what Id actually prefer is a little more time to foster a connection. Then, perhaps, I’ll consider a larger up front allowance.

    I suppose I could also accept the annual allowance, and return any unused balance. Would most rather not accept it until I feel comfortable.

  102. Nicegirl says:

    I don’t know FlyR but I would like to know his “Mangina” ;o), he seems to genuinely enjoy women and he seems to understand that the road to good sex is not a one way. Generally speaking you get what you give.

  103. Josh says:

    @StruggleIsReal

    “@Josh
    … am I following correctly that you assume that @Rebecca is actually @SugarySpicy both of whom you nicknamed “Chit Chat” ?”

    No. SugarySpicey is SugarySpicey and Rebecca is Chit chat.

    “And wait also that @flyR is apparently one of the blog SBs?”

    flyR is a vagina or at least a mangina. 😉

    “Hey , what about me? Don’t I get to be someone else?! hehe”

    This is the Internet. You can be whatever you wanna be.

  104. Nicegirl says:

    @ygbk,

    If the passion is not there when you are intimate it will not last for you If you are driven more by connection and passion than the financial return of the arrangement. I am not sure on-the-job training will work at his age either.

  105. “Josh says:
    November 24, 2014 at 2:59 pm
    @y

    It seems that you have figured out a way to get upfront money offered to you. ”

    For me, it’s more about how I share myself. Even in the context of an arrangement, I can’t do so casually. I am, afterall, sharing my body, mind and energy. I’ve no interest in being a dead fish lying there waiting to take it for the cash payout afterwards. Not yesterday, not ever.

    I have come to understand that for some men, their heart is where their wallet is. They express their desire and sentiment of a lady’s worth in dollars and gifts. Perhaps it’s their nature. He tells me that he cares for me a lot, but I don’t get the sense of undeniable connection of which Id be more likely to engage.

    While I understand that people communicate love and affection differently (love languages), there is an absolute felt appreciation factor that I can not dismiss. So for this particular potential, in that he can not energetically express his regard for me in a way that feels organic, he is putting his money where his mouth is.

  106. StruggleIsReal says:

    @Josh
    … am I following correctly that you assume that @Rebecca is actually @SugarySpicy both of whom you nicknamed “Chit Chat” ? LoL all this is enough to make one’s head spin. And wait also that @flyR is apparently one of the blog SBs?

    Hey , what about me? Don’t I get to be someone else?! hehe

  107. flyR says:

    @online newbie “it was like she turned the lights off for the actual intercourse…it’s a good thing I was enjoying the feel myself and she had nice bouncy boobs, so I got off, and the light switch didn’t turn back on afterwards, she just rolled away and started getting dressed…I gave her the agreed allowance, but didn’t try to schedule our next activity…”

    You do not mention how old she is or how experienced she is in the sugar bowl, Some bring a fair bundle of guilt to the sugar bed and others bring some anger. Your options are to try to work through it or make a change.

    Something which may help is to be sure that she has had an orgasm before intercourse begins. Preferably a substantial one or two. There is no formula or checklist.

  108. Nicegirl says:

    @Rebecca, I have had the same thing, minus the head tapping – lol. I agree it feel unnatural to stare the entire time into the his eyes. How can you focus on enjoying yourself and pleasing him if you are so focused on staring into his eyes????

  109. Josh says:

    @Chit chat

    “I should add that he literally stopped and tapped my face for closing my eyes for more than 10 seconds. He admitted he was insecure that the women were trying to disconnect from it.”

    Stop hooking up with weird men. 😉

  110. StruggleIsReal says:

    @Rebecca
    Omg… that’s totally annoying and off-putting. Definitley agree with @yougottabekiddingme …. Creepy!

    @flyR
    You’re gonna learn me yet! I now have my next Google bit to research. :)
    I agree with you.

    @yougottabekiddingme
    Have you talked to him about perhaps for the first month or two starting things out on a monthly basis? I also would be concerned about making such a long-term commitment when I would want the relationship to have a chance to grow organically, without the pressure of “gotta make this one last all year” right from the onset. Maybe you could ask him if after a month or maybe two you could then choose to go annual with it? I can understand that he might just really be into you and want to lock you in, but if he isn’t willing to understand that you actually want a true chemistry in your relationship, I’m afraid this one may be doomed from the start…

  111. Josh says:

    @y

    It seems that you have figured out a way to get upfront money offered to you. 😉

  112. “I should add that he literally stopped and tapped my face for closing my eyes for more than 10 seconds. He admitted he was insecure that the women were trying to disconnect from it.”

    Cree-py

  113. flyR says:

    @ Struggles – Thanks for the kind words . He was a great student who marched to a different drummer. I don’t think we have heard the last of him.

    It is very concerning that so much of businesses is either closely connected to the government (banking , wall street, tech companies, healthcare, utilities, green industries, housing) or in a monopoly or oligopoly that it seems we are doomed. About that time a couple of kids working in their MIT dorm room originate and execute something truly unique. The impacts of the government collusion with the most obnoxious of the banks will haunt us for years. In the 1990 S&L meltdown a plethora of household names went to jail (Boesky, Keating, etal) many dragged from the offices , cuffed and perp marched through the press to the waiting police car. This time they bought their way out of jail. See Isac Gradman’s Subprime Shakeout.

  114. I should add (so as not to skew the curve to newbies) that while this is my current reality as it pertains to an arrangement, this is far from typical (from my observation, and from others’ reports of their experiences).

  115. If I may ask for genuine thoughts…

    I’ve been discussing an arrangement with a potential for some time. The last time we met, he agreed to an annual allowance for monthly meets shared up front the next time we meet. He’s absolutely serious, but I’m having reservations. Mostly in that I don’t know how our relationship will progress. This would be my first arrangement. Like others have shared, I too am very much driven by nonsexual and non monetary factors such as emotional and intellectual connection, but absolutely love and crave sex in addition. This particular potential is kind of lacking in emotional connection, but I think it’s more to do with how he expresses his felt attraction and connection. Hence, the upfront allowance. I’ve not been intimate with anyone in some time, and I’m looking most forward to sharing intimacy and affection. He seems quite eager, though a bit removed from the passionate kind of intimacy that I enjoy. Work in progress, I suppose. Not quite sure, though, if on-the-job training will be feasible.

    What are your thoughts?

  116. Josh says:

    I removed negotiable few months ago. 😉

  117. Rebecca says:

    I should add that he literally stopped and tapped my face for closing my eyes for more than 10 seconds. He admitted he was insecure that the women were trying to disconnect from it.

  118. Rebecca says:

    I had a SD who obsessed with wanting me to keep my eyes open during sex. I don’t want to stare at you, dude! He took everything so personally. He was a doctor, so I shouldn’t have been surprised he was a control freak. In the end, I didn’t want to keep my eyes open the whole time because it’s creepy staring at someone!! Guys need to stop taking sex so personally. Everyone has different ways of interacting during the act, so don’t shame them.

  119. SouthernSB says:

    SexyRockstar says:”Sometimes, men really annoy me. I dislike when they put ‘negotiable’ even tho they can’t do more then 1k a month. Why can’t men be honest? I am sure there are girls that would love to meet only twice a month, and that will work out just fine from them. But, please, please, do not bother me if you can’t read what I put for expectations. I do not care how ‘cute’ you are…or ‘how much we get long’ if you can’t sugar..”

    ITA, I wish some of these “millionaires” would just man up and stop putting “negotiable” on their profiles. that way we will know to stay in whichever league we are in.

  120. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Nice – She was great before we got to intercourse, she was kissing while touching, while I was touching, she was oral, I was oral and she could buck her hips then…but when it got to insertion, she just switched off…when I asked, she just said, “nothing’s wrong, why?” that’s when I made the comment about coffee breath and her turning her head to the side. She, again, said nothing was wrong, so I drove to conclusion and finished…as soon as I pulled out and started to take care of the condom, she rolled and started getting dressed…didn’t even want to kiss good-bye, so I wasn’t going to push for a second time of that!

  121. Nicegirl says:

    @OnLineNewbie – what was her response when you asked her what was wrong?

  122. Nicegirl says:

    @OnLineNewbie – that sounds like the worst f**k in history! ugh. She is definitely part of the 60% Lainey was referring to earlier. How in the world can a woman have the big O if she isn’t even interested in the dick??? Was she into the actual foreplay beyond kissing? Oral, touching that type of thing?

  123. Nicegirl says:

    @SexyRockStar ““damnnn white girl with a booty, shit, you belong in a rap video. you and that long hair of yours”

    Fat bottom girl you make that rocking world go round!

  124. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Nice – thanks…it was a bit frustrating to me…I even asked her if I had coffee breath or something because she turned her head to the side and closed her eyes. It was the most bizarre thing I’ve experienced for a change in attitude!

  125. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Sexy…thanks for that. I’m about 3-3.5 hours from Millennium Park in Chicago (depending on traffic). I know I’m going to be headed down for a training sometime in January (if weather cooperates). Absolutely LOVE the area…not interested in making it a regular visit though. I’d rather have someone I can be a bit more spontaneous with.

  126. Nicegirl says:

    @OnlineNewbie… ” touching as we made our way to the bed…but…once we got in bed and moved toward the intercourse, she wasn’t even rocking her hips, or kissing, or touching…it was like she turned the lights off for the actual intercourse…”

    That is totally weird… and for the record, many women LOVE intercourse and would be all over you during sex just like she was during the “make-out session”. You are just not having good luck!

  127. SexyRockstar says:

    @online

    I often travel to New Buffalo for work a lot. 😉

  128. SexyRockstar says:

    For the newbie…get off this site dear. Men will want to have sex with you. Why don’t you try to go on Match.Com. There are millionaires on there. It just sounds like simple dating. Orrr, go to a place where a bunch of rich men hang out, and try that route. Good Luck.

    Sometimes, men really annoy me. I dislike when they put ‘negotiable’ even tho they can’t do more then 1k a month. Why can’t men be honest? I am sure there are girls that would love to meet only twice a month, and that will work out just fine from them. But, please, please, do not bother me if you can’t read what I put for expectations. I do not care how ‘cute’ you are…or ‘how much we get long’ if you can’t sugar

  129. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – hahaha…I know…although, that’s what it used to be before I felt too busy to try to meet women in “normal” life and turned to the internet!

  130. Josh says:

    @ONSD

    That’s what dreams are made for. 😉

  131. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Lainey – I completely agree…that’s why I’m in the Sugar Bowl! I shouldn’t have to worry about ANYTHING, except the pleasure of my partner, until we’re both too exhausted to care about anything 😉

  132. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @flyR & @Struggle – My thoughts are more along the lines of “Atlas Shrugged” right now, with the political climate, economic climate, capital greed, disregard for public good, lack of populace motivation, systemic and generational poverty, etc. But, let’s not get me into a negative mood, the snow melted with all the rain we got over the weekend and now the temp is supposed to drop and we’re getting another 4-6 inches before Thursday!

  133. Lainey says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD some people don’t know how to put their personal baggage aside and that’s unfortunate; ESPECIALLY when it comes to sex because that’s a time when you should be able to let go of everything and just enjoy the moment. Aaaah sex. My favorite pastime. Lmao

  134. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Southern – NO, MI and Utah are not anywhere close…it would be closer to go from Seattle to Southern California!

  135. Josh says:

    @WHD

    “I assume you don’t believe PMS is real and giving birth isn’t that painful, Josh.”

    I have no idea what you’re referring to. Elaborate. Thanks

  136. SouthernSB says:

    @Online-Is Utah even close to MI?

  137. StruggleIsReal says:

    @flyR
    I just relished that letter from Andrew Lahde! Man I would love to meet this dude! (No not for SD potential haha! But just to hear more of his thoughts on the matter.) That was right up my alley and I completely agree with him, although my relevant knowledge is admittedly much much less than his! Capitalism won’t last much longer. I am reading a book very relevant to this, by economic forecaster Jeremy Rifkin who also largely forecasted the unfolding of the recent / current economic situation. It is called “The Zero Marginal Cost Society: The Internet of Things, the Collaborative Commons, and the Eclipse of Capitalism”. It is incredibly interesting and seems rather on point with some of the sentiment Mr. Lahde so candidly expressed.
    I really enjoyed reading that and again, thank you for pointing me to it!

  138. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Lainey – regardless of the internal struggle, if you’re going to be in the Sugar Bowl, you need to be a LOVER, which requires attention to the details your partner desires and paying attention to those details!

    @Josh – I think I would disagree with you on the “Most women” part of your comment…I do, however, agree that intercourse is not a PRIORITY so much as the emotional connection, cuddle time and foreplay.

    @WHD – Not sure of @Josh’s beliefs, but, I believe in PMS (that’s a major reason I like the Sugar Bowl…shouldn’t have to deal with that in an arrangement) and know that my wife’s childbirth was NOT painful to her until after recovery, that’s what drugs and a C-Section will do for it (although there was considerable pain for ME in that procedure, watching my daughter be RIPPED from her womb)

  139. Lainey says:

    @WHD Giving birth isn’t that painful. I’ve experienced worse toothaches. Lol, but seriously.

  140. Lainey says:

    @Josh YUP! I’ve said “Shut up and fuck me!” On many an occasion. Lol

  141. Lainey says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD umm ya that is really weird. One of my guy friends went through that. Said the chick wouldn’t even look at him during sex. It’s clearly an internal struggle, doubt its personal.

  142. WHD says:

    I assume you don’t believe PMS is real and giving birth isn’t that painful, Josh.

  143. Josh says:

    @ONSD

    Most women are NOT interested in intercourse. They do it for a variety of reasons but are not into it.

    It’s like, “hey you wanted it so you make the magic happen.”

  144. Josh says:

    I’d thought that you wanted your man to shut up and do his deed? 😉

  145. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Lainey…it’s not about position, completely…I was with a pot and after coffee (our second coffee meeting) I offered to give her a ride to her car (on the other side of the lot)…when we were in my car we kissed across the car and it was wonderful…nibbling on the lips, fingers through the hair, lips to earlobes and neck, hands moving down shoulders and sides…so…we scheduled another time to get together, this time I would get us a hotel room. When she got to the room, we embraced and it was like the car all over again, hands all over each other, kissing, nibbling, touching, undressing…then, it was great for the continuation of kissing, nibbling, touching as we made our way to the bed…but…once we got in bed and moved toward the intercourse, she wasn’t even rocking her hips, or kissing, or touching…it was like she turned the lights off for the actual intercourse…it’s a good thing I was enjoying the feel myself and she had nice bouncy boobs, so I got off, and the light switch didn’t turn back on afterwards, she just rolled away and started getting dressed…I gave her the agreed allowance, but didn’t try to schedule our next activity…

    …it was really weird…

  146. SassySB says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD Thanks! I have changed it.

    @Lainey Multiracial (half white + others).

  147. Lainey says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD not going to lie, I’m a FAN of missionary. Pin my legs by ears and call my Sally. Lmao.

  148. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Lainey – BUT…it’s such a disappointment when that second time you get together and you’re confirming you want the intimacy and the arrangement to begin to have the actual sex fall far short of the foreplay! It’s happened a couple of times to me…an avid kisser, toucher and teaser all of a sudden becomes a lay there when the clothes are off…it’s SO frustrating and depressing to get all riled up and then just want to get off and leave to end the situation!

  149. Lainey says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD that first make out is the BEST! It’s like you know the attraction is there now you’re gauging how intense it is. LOOOVE IT!

  150. Lainey says:

    @Josh I’ve told my girlfriends something similar. Seems all my generation has to offer is sex. I tell them there are too many “fun” girls out there to think you’re irreplaceable. SBs love that f*cking adjective. “FUN!,

  151. Josh says:

    “If sex is the best thing you can offer to a man, and even that is lousy, then why blame him if he leaves after he is done?” ~ Josh Guru

  152. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Lainey that strategy would be exactly how I would want a second or third meeting to go with a pot SB…we’re somewhere private enough to have a little bit of make out time and see if we’re ready to rip each other’s clothes off, but public enough to make sure we don’t push it that far 😉

    Then, take the time between that and the next meeting to decide if that passion persists (are you thinking about the encounter the next morning, the next evening, etc) and make some time to confirm the passion is still there when the clothes are removed from the equation!

  153. Lainey says:

    @StruggleIsReal @flyR seriously! Lol I’m a saphiosexual! Just thinking about him now makes me hot. I remember my first orgasm was with a total nerd. No man before him was able to accomplish what he did, simply because my arousal was at an all time high!

  154. Lainey says:

    @SexyRockstar the date went well. Started out SUPER inappropriate but I’m no prude. He literally jumped my bones the second I sat on the couch. He’s HOOOOTTTT though. A little too skinny for my taste but still sooooo hooott and Young. For some reason I attract SDs 23-35 even though I love men over 40. Something about salt and pepper hair makes me kitty tingle. But I digress, after engaging in the make out I patted the couch to have him take a seat. We talked a little then he tried it again. This ALWAYS happens. Most times I don’t engage. My guy friends said I have a “baby making body” that brings out a man’s primitive nature to mate. So I jokingly say “did I just trap myself into a late night rendezvous” to which he backed off. He went to go to bathroom and I moved over to kitchen table so that we wouldn’t be next to each other. He came out the bathroom laughed and said it was probably a good idea that we sit there. Then we talked for hours sitting at the table about personal life, our opinions on relationships, work, family, blah blah. We had GREAT banter. Then we went back to the couch. This time I welcomed the makeout. We did for a bit and he stopped himself saying he should probably go to bed and that even though he wanted me (as I could tell by how hard he was) we shouldn’t start this way. He then walks me down to my car and kisses me goodnight and tells me to text him when I get home (we live literally around the corner from one another). We texted a bit then said gn

    Mentally I was like “worked like a charm”. I’m certain he initially planned on f*cking me and leaving it at that, but one on one environments are where I’m skilled. Gave him a little, drew it back, Made him get to know me which made him gain respect for me and no longer want to follow through with the smash and dash. Lol. Only reason I engaged in the final make out was to give him an opportunity to stop himself. It told me what I needed to know and now I’m totally game to further pursue the arrangement. Plus now we know we are totally hot for one another.

  155. flyR says:

    @Lainey
    “Was entertaining one SD that was not my type. Cute face but extremely overweight but once he started talking about business and politics my heart melted and leaked through to my vag*na ”

    A classic

  156. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @flyR – you have a very optimistic outlook on the message…but…I did, after much consideration, reply with something similar

    “When/If you get back to MI, I would be happy to see if we click, but I am not interested in a long distance arrangement at this time.”

    I actually read it as a complete rinser…and I’m not convinced it isn’t a bald guy in his 60’s in Russia, waiting for me to ask for wire instructions!

  157. flyR says:

    “”kinda new at all this. But honesty is the best policy right? :p so I guess what I am trying to say is I need a little help getting home and I’m open to long distance arrangement, then hopefully you havent lost interest and you’ll still want to meet when I get there!””

    Sounds like she is saying she would like help to move back but if that does not work she would like to meet when she gets there.

    Response might be something like you are sorry she is not here now because you would like to meet. Let’s stay in contact .. without an offer to help her move.

  158. Lainey says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD I hear these stories all the time and could never understand someone leading with their desperation. Smh. F*cking damsels

  159. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    Really couldn’t make this stuff up! Contacted a pot SB, about 90-120 minutes away by car in her profile…this is the first message back from my “I think I’m interested” email, paraphrased to remove her name:

    I am actually stuck in utah right now living with an ex and desperatly wanting to come home to mi. My friend told me about this site.. so I decided to make a profile so I am kinda new at all this. But honesty is the best policy right? :p so I guess what I am trying to say is I need a little help getting home and I’m open to long distance arrangement, then hopefully you havent lost interest and you’ll still want to meet when I get there!

    Seriously? But, there’s probably some dope SD on here that will jump at the chance, since she’s at least an 8 from the pictures.

  160. @Lainey
    I just about spit my tea out! hahaha Well said!
    “Was entertaining one SD that was not my type. Cute face but extremely overweight but once he started talking about business and politics my heart melted and leaked through to my vag*na. Lmao”

  161. @Annahrah
    You sound very similar to me and I think you shouldn’t be afraid to let potential SDs know pretty much what you just wrote here about your thoughts on the relationships and potential intimacy. As you can see here, I think you’ll find you’ll get a good response from plenty of good pot SDs, and the ones who respond negatively, you don’t want to attract anyways! I have had no trouble expressing similar ideas and finding quality men here. Don’t expect it to happen overnight and yes you will have to sift through all the possibilities but I am sure you can find something worthwhile. I think as long as you are genuine even when being cautious, you’re set :)

    @OnlineNewbieSD
    Oh okay, I thought there was some discrepancy between what they were expressing they wanted and then what it actually seemed they wanted once you further discussed. I’ll have to scroll back up and see if I can follow the story better.

  162. Lainey says:

    @Annarah mentorship is hard to find. I’m on the site for the same thing. Even with the dates and guidance or simply spending time observing their day they will ALWAYS want to f*ck you, especially if you’re attractive. I’m personally OK with putting out because I only select my definition of “hot” SDs. If you find a great mentor that you’re attracted to you’ll want to take it there. It’ll just happen and it’ll be so organic that you won’t even sweat the time frame because of the admiration. When I admire someone they become the hottest person to me, which leads to jumping bones.

    Was entertaining one SD that was not my type. Cute face but extremely overweight but once he started talking about business and politics my heart melted and leaked through to my vag*na. Lmao

  163. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh is right @Annarah…from the other stories posted, and conversations I’ve had with SBs at first meetings, there are many SDs who will expect things to move very quick to intercourse.

  164. Josh says:

    @Annarah

    You sound like a sweet woman many quality SDs would be interested in.

    Since you are not money motivated primarily, you should be able to land an SD that meets your criteria.

    But don’t keep your hopes too high as to how long an SD will stick around if you don’t put out.

  165. Lainey says:

    @SassySB what’s your ethnicity?

  166. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Struggle – I’m not sure about the unsure of what they want, because it is CLEAR they expect an SD to “Show them the money!”

    I think it is a balance of the comfort level of being with a guy they don’t know (and probably being approached with the “meet me at this hotel” SD profile too often) and the idea that as a duo they could exploit the fantasy life of a potential SD for more money.

    Thing is, I’m a bit like @Josh in that I would expect a playdate to cost a certain amount…if there’s two girls there, they each get half…in my past experiences with SBs where they were inclined toward sharing, she would surprise me with someone else and it didn’t cost me any extra allowance for the added fun.

  167. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Annarah – WOW! I wish you were local to me in west Michigan! Although, I think I would have the same non-blog-SB policy as @Josh, just to keep things “comfortable” on comments.

    If the allowance is not your driver, and spending time together with places/things you wouldn’t normally want to afford, you should be able to find SDs willing to let things ride for a bit (especially if you are comfortable with the kissing and such other than intercourse)…

    For me, by the third or fourth meeting, if there’s no drive for even a kiss, it’s time for BOTH of us to move on. If by the third or fourth meeting, we’ve had a chance to kiss and there’s a mutual feeling of desire to have things progress, that’s when the discussion of the allowance happens.

    I actually agree with you about the strong mental connection. I’ve found it VERY EASY to find a quick lay on SA, as long as I’m willing to throw a couple hundred bucks at her when I’m done…that’s not what I want, and I’m not satisfied with the “dead fish” discussed a while back on this post. I feel the mental connection heightens the sexual connection and helps BOTH partners feel more satisfied with the sex and the arrangement.

  168. @SexyRockstar @OnlineNewbieSD
    Haha When I read that bit about the tag-team SBs, I actually thought “ha, that one does kind of sound like it could be me (the one that you likened to possibly being @Sugary)”! It isn’t– I can say that for sure because I’m not in any sort of communication with anyone about anything like that– but yes I am kind of more along the lines of… I always want/need a man, but for the right woman I could be with her, if we could include a man sometimes because I do want heterosexual sex sometimes. But more often than not, I am fully into a man who I am seeing, and bringing another female into it would be something we would both decide and have to be into.
    When I read this account about the tag-team SBs @OnlineNewbieSD is dealing with, it did cross my mind that if I had a hot chick and we were all about each other, but wanted to have some fun with a man, that I could see advertising specifically for that. However I would be extremely up front about it. Certainly that would not be everyone’s cup of tea, and it isn’t mine at the moment, but I can definitely imagine finding myself in that kind of a situation, and plenty of men being into that. It’s just about knowing what you want and being straight up about it.
    It seems the ones that @OnlineNewbieSD is dealing with are a either a little unsure of what they even really want, or shady and overly opportunistic with their approach.

  169. Annarah says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD
    Very good points. When I say intimate I mean intercourse. Kissing and other explorations I wouldn’t object to if I felt a connection. But it all comes down to the connection. Seeking a smart, intelligent gentleman whom I can have dinner with and connect with. The allowance portion of all of this is just a bonus but not as important as a strong mental connection and finding someone that can help me grow as a person and provide life lessons I can put to action in my personal life. I feel like the lessons I could learn from potential SD is worth more than the finances.

  170. flyR says:

    There’s a wonderful letter floating around the internet written in 2008 by Andrew Lahde . Andrew was a recently minted MBA who understood both the real estate world and the banking/finance industry. His business plan was simply – to take advantage of the institutionalized stupidity and corruption in the real estate and banking world. The last page of his business plan predicted the collapse of the banking industry. In six or seven months he went from an unknown to the most successful hedge fund manager (his fund) in the world. Cashed out as the government came in and reversed the free market, leaving Wall Street with a farewell letter. The letter thanked the silver spoon fed mba for making him rich and announced that he was dropping out. Great story if you are interested google his name and farewell letter-although intended as a private letter it ended up in a number of major publications.

  171. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Annarah – I am confident you can be in the Sugar Bowl and find that SD willing to take some time to get to know you before sexual activities…however…I am also confident you will not get much more than some gas money and/or the cost of the activity from a SD until you’re willing to be intimate.
    That’s been my policy with potential SBs…I’m more than willing to be a gentleman, to a point…I think by the third or fourth time together, there should be an overwhelming urge to explore SOMETHING intimate (even if it is just a kiss)…I’m also a romantic, and believe that kiss will tell you if you’re ready for the intimate connection and if that connection will be something worth exploring!

    good luck! Keep in touch on here!

  172. @SassySB
    You have some really great advice from the board SDs here. There’s really no need for me to repeat what they have said because that is pretty much what I would end up advising you to do as well.
    I will say that your expectation is probably knocking out a lot of potential for you, especially considering that you want that much but don’t seem to have the ability to write an intriguing and engaging profile about yourself. For a man to even come close to investing that kind of money in the company of a woman, they are going to want a pretty damn remarkable woman, in more than just the looks variety. Smart, conversation, personality, intrigue… none of which you display in your profile (sorry, I am not being rude to you… I am sure you are lovely, but I am just giving it to you straight.).

    Take the wise advice of these SDs who were generous enough to give you some tips on how to write your profile, lower your expectation, and see if you fare any better then. Definitely show some passion for your life, the things you are interested in, what you enjoy….

  173. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    Sorry @Sexy…couldn’t scroll high enough to see the actual comment.

    small screens are not friendly to the blog comment!

  174. Annarah says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD
    I made sure to post very modest pictures so that, hopefully, I can attract more respectful gentlemen. Very good point as far as an aggreement being a relationship. I guess my concern is that I may not find someone that wants to explore each other on a mental level but would require sexual satisfaction before getting to know one another. Thank you guys for your input. I will continue to read and learn and decide if this is “right” for me.

  175. SexyRockstar says:

    @online

    Me? No, I don’t like women like that. StruggleIsReal tho said she was Bi-sexual.

  176. flyR says:

    Re “I am here for the money >>>>”

    When writing your ad try to detach yourself from your needs and look at the customer needs.

    You’ll seldom see a car add that reads – Please buy our cars at a premiunm price because, thanks to poor engineering they very expensive to build, our labor is costly thanks to our stupid management and out banks are charging outrageous interest rates because they expect us to fail. That just scares 99% of the buyers away OK the feds will buy your cars but nobody who pays from their own pocket.

    Ditto for sugar

  177. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Struggles – most of my experience is with the “worked hard” crowd in my business and personal life…however…there is almost always a bit of the “got lucky” involved in hard work.

    I feel the “got lucky” primary crowd are quick to wealth and quick back to mediocrity…over 80% of professional athletes and lottery winners will end up bankrupt within 10 years after winning or ending career. They don’t have the “smart” or “hard work” habits of someone who saved to get the wealth.

    Also, in my business life, I have met many born into the wealth they have…some view it as compensation for time away from parents’ hard work, but they learned the hard work, became smart, etc. Others end up without the smarts, work ethic and view things more along the “got lucky” crowd and lose everything quickly (or as quick as their “smart” and “hard working” parents’ estate plan would allow!)

  178. Oh and to clarify, I was commenting on the recent bit in the NY Post that @flyR posted about earlier.

    ———————–For the Backstory——————
    flyR says:
    November 23, 2014 at 7:54 pm
    Confidentiality Agreements and Hell Hath No Fury

    There was a blurb on the press about a SB to a mogul who signed a confidentiality agreement after receiving a promise of $100,000. Appears that daddy may have made a serious mistake in not paying and also being seen with a third woman. Sb is shopping book deal and looking to get out from conf agreement

    StruggleIsReal says:
    November 23, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    @Josh
    “I was going to say, the SD sounds like he isn’t all that smart… But then again he IS a mogul of some sort so certainly he can’t be all that dim! So apparently he just got lazy somewhere. Which is why I agree with.”

    @Struggle-You don’t have to be smart to be a mogul, you just have to work hard, go to the right college or be born into the money

  179. @SouthernSB
    True, very true…
    Interesting thing consider…
    I’d be interested to hear the thoughts- if anyone cares to share- from those of you who are very successful and/or wealthy by birth right, and therefore have spent and do spend lots of time around this set of individuals. Or perhaps socially you just find yourself surrounded with them and can offer insight.
    What are your thoughts on the breakdown of “smart v. born wealthy v. worked hard v. got lucky” individuals in this set?
    Where do you feel you fall (if you feel like sharing?)?

    Obviously there is no right or wrong answer here, just musings and a myriad of personal experiences that no one could probably ever truly quantify. It’s not to say that anyone who is where they are does or doesn’t deserve to be there– and honestly to even bother with that is useless. It is what it is. I am interested in the makeup of how it is, how it got there, etc.

  180. flyR says:

    A slight amendment to the what I will do with the allowance portion of the profile. Perhaps start with why you are here if there is anything you are looking for beyond sex for money.

    ie
    I finished my undergraduate degree in biology and am just starting working on my masters. In addition to some help with the burdens, I miss the company of an intelligent man rather than the boys in my classes. I enjoy fine restaurants but do not need to be constantly entertained. Love quickie getaways, especially with a fireplace and ocean view.

    OR

    I am a single mother of two wonderful children. I’m here for a number of reasons, yes part is economic – although I have a good job my real income has been declining over the past years. Equally important to me is that I am not meeting fun, interesting men who satisfy my intellectual and sensual needs. I am tried of wine from a screwtop bottle and dinners where I end up paying the bill. I am not looking for a husband or father for the children, I am looking for one wonderful, classy lover who enhances many dimensions of my life as I do his.

  181. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Annarah – An arrangement IS a relationship…instead of dedicating time and traditional expenses on a girlfriend, a SD is looking for a different return on his investment into the “relationship” whether it’s because he’s married (like me) or because he’s become jaded against the traditional relationship due to divorce or heartbreak…I think, if you keep an open mind to the fact an arrangement IS a relationship, just a different type, and deal with an SD who is willing to explore the relationship before DEMANDING sex, you should be alright on SA.

    However, if you really want a purely platonic relationship where you receive an allowance and/or gifts/whatever, you may find it difficult on SA.

  182. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Annarah – PLEASE – if you’re looking for things to be platonic…DO NOT put up pictures of you in a bikini, lingerie, etc. Those pics will ONLY attract the SDs interested in something sexual.

  183. Annarah says:

    @josh
    I dont have any relationships. I have actually only been in 3 relationships. I am in the process of learning about SA and SD/SB and trying to determine if its something I could do. I know a platonic relationship I could do but I honestly dont know about advancing on that. I am a “virgin” to being intimate outside of a relationship.

  184. Yogabunny says:

    Milan Italy!

  185. Elaine says:

    @Annarah

    Sure you will find that SD!

    Let me help, he has a big white beard and lives at the Northpole with his 6 reindeer SB’s. 😉

  186. flyR says:

    @annarsh – There are occasional reports of sugar without intimacy , my guess is that they are 1/1000 but without any serious research. Would not waste my time otherthan perhaps one ad that makes it very clear no sex is involved.

  187. Elaine says:

    @ SassySB

    Sorry, but if you have to ask in a blog how to make your profile not boring, how are you going to write attracting messages, and hold interesting conversations with a potential SD?
    And you state to be a writer??

    If you are indeed Ivy League educated (gosh, this place is full of them) you mustbe intelligent enough to understand that a well thought profile is the first step.
    I would advice you to read a lot of female profiles, and then rewrite yours.

    What do you have to offer an SD in return for the (nearly CEO) salary you expect in return for some weekly hours of your company?

  188. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Annarah – I am happy to be a gentleman with a potential SB while we decide if we are going to be intimate…meaning…I will treat us to coffee, drinks, meal, show, etc.

    However, I’m not going to agree to an allowance or do much more than the expenses of a “date” if there is not that intimate connection.

    I think most on SA are looking for an intimate connection…even some of the SBs on blog that talk about platonic arrangements have admitted those were met in real life, rather than on SA.

    Good luck in your search…you may find that diamond in the rough on SA, but I’m not sure you’ll be able to weed through the communications you’re going to get long enough to find that person!

  189. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh-guru has it right @SassySB. The better your description of what you are going to use the arrangement for will help someone decide if it’s a good fit for them.

    I saw one profile where she was hoping to start her own business, but couldn’t handle monthly expenses and the new business, she was looking for someone willing to help her with her monthly expenses so she could focus on her business venture.

    Another profile talked about being a recent graduate, being able to handle monthly expenses, but didn’t like to see all the interest on her college loans and a little bit of credit card debt. She was hoping to pay down those debts through an arrangement.

    You will attract a higher caliber SD when sugar is an additive to your lifestyle, not your lifestyle. Even explaining WHY you have a current income-expense gap can be important to sift through those looking to prey on the desperate!

  190. Kitty says:

    haha what about Dover, anywhere! I could rack up on hell of a bill there oh yes.

  191. Josh says:

    @Annarah

    Are all your relationships outside of this site platonic as well?

  192. Josh says:

    @SassySB

    Yes it boils down to money, but what you need to explain in #2 is your reason for being here. Paying down student loan, bridging your current income-expense gap, etc., may” be the reasons.

    Anything that alludes to making the most out of your young body and vagina may not fly too well with better quality SD.

  193. Annarah says:

    Newbie here.

    Is it possible to find a strictly platonic relationship on a site like this?

    Thanks!

  194. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Sassy – It’s all in HOW you tell the pot SD what you’re interested in…on SA I’ve seen everything from $XXX an hour to $XXXX per visit. I’ve seen “just gifts please, but I have expensive taste” and “red bottoms are my fave”. I’ve seen “I know my worth, can you afford me?” and “Yeah, your time is worth something, but so is mine”

    I haven’t looked at your profile, but the trick is identifying the type of SD you want and trying to speak to THAT SD. Don’t put per hour or per visit if you want an allowance type arrangement…don’t put gifts if you’re looking for an allowance…if you’re looking for someone who will go above and beyond, find a way to say that you like to receive an allowance to relieve the stress of your living expenses, but also appreciate a gentleman’s touch when you’re with someone – this, to me, implies you like flowers or a gift when you’re together, in addition to your agreed to allowance.

    Does that make sense?

  195. SassySB says:

    I get #1, but what do you mean by #2? The honest answer is money and nice things, I don’t think anyone finds that appealing to hear.

  196. Josh says:

    You need to write two things very well, especially if you claim to be an Ivy Leaguer:

    1. What’s in it for them to make an arrangement with you?

    2. What’s in it for you?

    Put some passion into your profile.

  197. SassySB says:

    @Josh What would make a profile not boring?

  198. Josh says:

    @SassySB

    Your face is blanked out. You are a non-White. You seem to have nice figure. Your profile is boring. You are expecting High allowance = Higher than $10,000 per month.

    Non-White SBs don’t fare too well on SA unless they are able to make their skin color a non-issue by their shear charm.

    What kind of feedback are you looking for?

  199. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – exactly! their interest was in each other, not the actual SD opportunity.

    It’s also interesting that 3 of the 5 joint profiles have one I would classify as a 7-9 and one I would classify as a 5-7…it could be that they are roommates and were independently looking into the lifestyle and one was getting responses, the other not so much, so the lesser of the two came up with the idea of giving “old, ugly guys” their fantasy of “threesome” so that BOTH of them could get some cash!

  200. flyR says:

    @Southern SB

    ” @FlyR-Instead of wasting your money on Josh why don’t you put your money to good use and split it up among us regular SB bloggers. Thank you. ;)”

    Because I intend to be spending Josh’s money, if he ever gets the courage to put his money where his mouth is. Besides SB’s including a few who have commented here have received a considerable amount of my funds (a great investment in pleasure with intelligent women and a little for them in the pursuit of their dreams)

  201. Josh says:

    “this woman was one she liked.”

    “I told you so” is timely and appropriate here. LOL!

    They could have just spent time together but are looking for idiots to bankroll their union as an spectator.

  202. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    How do you view a profile by the id? How do you find the id for your own profile?

    I went looking back to find it, but couldn’t quickly…

    Thanks

  203. SassySB says:

    @StruggleIsReal @Josh It’s e42c2fe7, thanks!

  204. Josh says:

    @flyR

    SouthernSB bri vs up a good point.

    Since I don’t have any interest in your money, please distribute among out lovely blog SBs including SugarySpicey. 😉

  205. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB

    flyR won’t do that as she apparently believes that women are well-served with her condescending BS on the blog.

  206. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @flyR & @Josh (now that’s something I didn’t think I would type…ever 😉 )

    I agree with both of you, actually, after conversations with a couple of the individual profiles noted from the paired profiles…

    All 5 of the individual profiles (covering 4 of the joint profiles) I spoke with expressed a concern for safety in the meetings (which is weird, because having two spry women in a room would be a huge risk for me)…

    After a couple of messages, three of them really showed they were more interested in being able to be discreet with the woman than being with the man (and one actually said she believed a man was just a living dildo)…the other sounded more like one of the bloggers (was it @Sexy?) where she needs a man, but enjoys time with a special woman, and this woman was one she liked.

    I tested the double price, half attention theory by proposing a weekly allowance to each individual, with a “bonus” for individual time together…none have been enthusiastic…figures

  207. SouthernSB says:

    @FlyR-Instead of wasting your money on Josh why don’t you put your money to good use and split it up among us regular SB bloggers. Thank you. 😉

  208. SouthernSB says:

    StruggleIsReal says:
    November 23, 2014 at 9:16 pm

    @Josh
    “I was going to say, the SD sounds like he isn’t all that smart… But then again he IS a mogul of some sort so certainly he can’t be all that dim! So apparently he just got lazy somewhere. Which is why I agree with.”

    @Struggle-You don’t have to be smart to be a mogul, you just have to work hard, go to the right college or be born into the money.

  209. @flyR
    Yikes! I just read the story! That man screwed up. I feel badly for the wife. The other two deserve each other.

  210. Josh says:

    @SexyRockstar

    “I am convinced men are all douchebags anyway.”

    Hmmmm. 😉

  211. SexyRockstar says:

    ooohhh, how did it go?

  212. Lainey says:

    So funny just got back from SD date and we were just talking about confidentiality agreements and prenups lol

  213. SexyRockstar says:

    When it comes to married SDs…it’s pretty simple. Why is he even doing it. I am convinced men are all douchebags anyway. I let them explain why. If it’s something i’m not comfortable with, I don’t do it.

    “I am married to my kids. If I divorce, I won’t get to see them everyday. I tuck them in at night and make breakfast in the morning.”

    Thats why my current SD and I are together.

  214. flyR says:

    Hey, SexyRockStar – I get your comment on the married having less drama but there are come datapoints that might cause you some concern. As I recall Donald Sterling’s wife went after this sugarbaby’s gifts on the claim that they were community property (despite sterling’s wife having received half of the $2bil from the sale of the Clippers.

    I don’t know what it is like to be a married SD ( did not mess around when I was married) but from SB’s I have known there is a prospect of guilt , wifey and changing plans.

    Let us know how the sea salt works – is it the guitar that gives you callouses . I know when I was surfing and diving a lot my feet got really soft . I guess it works on hands too.

  215. flyR says:

    Confidentiality agreement story was in the New York Post today

    Guy’s name was Rosenkranz sp? Wife was a socialite so it’s pretty messy….. scorned woman went on twitter.

  216. If *something* isn’t working

  217. Josh says:

    @flyR

    It’s really sad when one has to offer $10,000 to a random blogger to prove his gender.

    I got two small balls in my court. I am ass-u-ming you have two bigger ones. 😉

    There are interesting similarities in all such challenges made in the past by others. They all act magnanimous by offering to donate their winnings.

    If you want to prove your sex go prove it any which way you want. I have not accepted such challenges in the past and I am not about to start now.

  218. @Josh
    I was going to say, the SD sounds like he isn’t all that smart… But then again he IS a mogul of some sort so certainly he can’t be all that dim! So apparently he just got lazy somewhere. Which is why I agree with
    @Lainey…
    It’s a sad thing when people take such advantage of each other. Like she said, this is supposed to be a style of relationship where there is honesty and discretion and shit if so etching isn’t working for you, simply let the other person know and get out.
    Makes me mad that the SB would siphon all that money and more from him. But I guess that’s this wonderful world we live in, huh?

  219. flyR says:

    Struggles I will try to find the article. It was a footnote to something else.

  220. flyR says:

    Josh,

    Let’s see who’s the BS dispenser in the gang

    We each put up $10,000 and I will present myself to a panel of trusted SB’s who can verify my sex .

    You win you get my $10K

    I win I’ll donate your money to the Boy Scouts after deducting $1,000 for the SB’s for their services.

    Let me know when your cash will arrive .

    Apologies to the other participants

    Joshie ball’s in your court.

  221. Josh says:

    or ass-u-me-ing anything. LOL!

  222. Josh says:

    @Sexy

    We need to know more facts before speculating. 😉

  223. SexyRockstar says:

    See, to me, this SB is stupid. Ask for more money. Thats it. Keep everyone happy.

    God, when did sugar turn into being assholes to each other? It should be about respect and trust between two people. This is why i’ll stick with married SDs because when I am famous, I don’t want them trying to say “oh she is a gold digger” or some other stupid ass shit. HA.

  224. Josh says:

    @StruggleIsReal

    “Weird that he would take caution then drop the ball like that.”

    Happens all the time sweetheart. The chick got the $100,000 guarantee. It got to her head. She dragging on performing her side of the bargain. The man got furious. Tried to bail out. Now he is in even more trouble.

    The idiot should have paid the stinking $100,000 and gotten rid of her.

  225. Josh says:

    @StruggleIsReal

    flyR is a woman who posts as a man and marvels any con a woman pulls. :(

    Whoever this good-for-nothing SB is, she got a $100,000 “deal.” The SD did something stupid. Now the good-for-nothing SB is trying to cash in.

    And flyR is marveling the con artist’s savvy. :(

    flyR posted accolades to a con job by another SB on November 20, 2014 at 9:21 pm.

  226. SexyRockstar says:

    @Lainey

    I think within the next two appointments I’ll get that blonde. I am pretty blonde now. MUST BE BLONDER AAAHHHH. Someone told me it looks ‘natural’ and i’m like “um no, I have brown eyes. thanks for trying to be nice tho”

  227. @flyR
    Can you expound upon who the mogul is? Weird that he would take caution then drop the ball like that.

  228. flyR says:

    Confidentiality Agreements and Hell Hath No Fury

    There was a blurb on the press about a SB to a mogul who signed a confidentiality agreement after receiving a promise of $100,000. Appears that daddy may have made a serious mistake in not paying and also being seen with a third woman. Sb is shopping book deal and looking to get out from conf agreement.

  229. @Lainey
    Ha! I can’t say I get it all the time (eyebrows) but have a few times and always have thought it funny! In fact when the girl on the airplane was commenting , I actually thought she was trying to tell me I had something on my face! Haha
    Oh yeah and nice long pretty hands are a definite plus. Mine are nicely shaped naturally in general, but I’m the worst at upkeep and I am a tomboy so I am usually like…. Ummm hoping that the other bits keep them distracted from the scrapes and all! LoL

  230. Lainey says:

    @SexyRockstar ooooh I know what you’re talking about. I feel stupid now. And I think you should go Khaleesi blonde. Be our very own Daenerys Targaryen. Lol

  231. SexyRockstar says:

    @Lainey

    How much blonder do you think I should go? I am thinking maybe almost white. I want people to be like ‘damn that bitchs hair is super fake looking, I am jealous’.

    Chicago is cold…I want to look like summer time..all the time 😀

  232. SexyRockstar says:

    It’s something I bought from a Spa Party for ‘Beauty Control’. It’s dead sea salt that you rub on your hands to leave them super soft. My finger tips…I have so many calluses on them. So, imagine when you get a pedicure and they put your feet in that stuff and buff out your feet…I pretty much do the same thing to my hands. Otherwise, NO GUY would ever, ever want to hold my hand.

  233. Lainey says:

    @SexyRockstar what does the sea salt soak do? Also check you email beezy. You’re fucking hilarious!

  234. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey
    1.) Yes, because people don’t dye their hair. Lol

    2.) We have never discussed curricula for you to even ascertain that

    3.) Yes, please bring up something I ALREADY answered. I know the conversion but do not where “American sized” denim so being that conversion is pretty inaccurate and dependent upon the brand, I was not sure what to say I wore in US sizing.
    4.) Sociopaths are not crazy. Crazy is deranged which means not in line with reality. Sociopaths are very aware of the world around them we just intact with it differently than you might. You do not have a degree nor any knowledge besides mainstream media which only perpetuates the stereotype, so please keep all assessments to yourself.

    5.) The receipt is now my gravatar. Screenshot from my email today @ 11:03am

    You’re Welcome.

    This is the last time I will entertain you, as I have now done so in the politest form I could.

  235. SexyRockstar says:

    I have to let my daughter do my nails because with how often I play guitar…shit gets chipped aalllll the damn time. I also soak my hands every night in this sea salt thinggy so my finger tips arint all gross. ahhh…being a rockstar and trying to be beautiful…it’s hardddddd

  236. Lainey says:

    @StruggleIsReal that’s funny! I get complimented on my eyebrows all the time too.

    I get complimented on my nails A LOT. They are long, natural and almost always painted clear. I always think it’s weird when a man notices.

  237. Lainey says:

    @StruggleIsReal that’s funny! I get complimented on my eyebrows all the time too.

    I get complimented on my nails A LOT. They are long, natural and almost always painted clear. I airways think it’s weird when a man notices.

  238. SexyRockstar says:

    @Nicegirl

    I’ve been told the following:

    “damnnn white girl with a booty, shit, you belong in a rap video. you and that long hair of yours”
    -I say, thanks. I am a rapper. I can wrap the shit out of any thing

    “you have a beautiful smile…how often do you bleach your teeth”
    -I say: not as often as I bleach my asshole

    “damnn guurrll where da hellz did ya get cho weave at? i need one just like that”
    -I say: Walmart. (my hair is real but I love the look on their face)

    “you look like you enjoy anal”
    -I say: thanks, but I hate taking shits

  239. @SouthernSB
    Ah I see. It’s so expensive! I’m saving for a root canal. Fun! LoL

  240. SouthernSB says:

    @Struggle-Unfortunately I haven’t gotten the reconstruction yet, but hope springs eternal. Maybe one day I’ll be able to save up the money for that.

  241. @SouthernSB
    Were you happy with your reconstruction ? Good for you. I am happy that for women who donate heir bodies to their children, there is recourse !

  242. I tend to prefer smaller breasts myself. Not nonexistent, but on the smaller side. Honestly though for me it’s more quality than quantity.

    @SassySB I am an SB and have great success with my profile. I would be happy to critique yours if you would like.

    @NiceGirl
    Yep. I have been complimented in my ears several times and just recently on a flight- by another attractive female- on my eyebrows. LoL! Her boyfriend/ husband laughed and explained that she has a fascination with eyebrows. LoL

  243. Nicegirl says:

    Does anyone have any funny yet flattering complements you have gotten from a man or woman that you would want to share?

    I had two interesting ones this week…
    *Earlier in the week I got on an elevator and the man inside told me that I had beautiful toes. Foot fetish?
    *This morning I was told that I had the skin of a girl but the body of a woman.

    So, does the more unique the compliment meant that it is more sincere or simply a corny pickup line? ;o)

  244. Josh says:

    @SassySB

    Please post your id and some of us will critique.

  245. LadyScarlett says:

    @ nicegirl, that is true..my last Sd said part of the reason he picked me because he loves natural, loathes anything fake and preferred breasts on the smaller but perky side. Men like all types, shapes and sizes, so there is no perfect one size fits all. In fact, since I stopped working out, mine have grew, but I prefer them smaller, to be honest…just a personal preference, since I am used to them being smaller.

  246. SugarySpicey says:

    Thanks Scarlett, that gravatar I shared was a teeny tiny triangle bikini, which anyone who has ever been to a beach/pool/clothing store knows don’t come with support or padding. 😉

  247. SassySB says:

    Is there someone who’s interested in SB profile critique? Would be interested in hearing thoughts on mine…

  248. Nicegirl says:

    I have read plenty of profiles from men that find small natural breasts a huge turn on. Everyone is different… I suppose that is the beauty of selection, we are attracted to what we like, real, big, fake or small.

  249. flyR says:

    Fake boobs are pretty much disqualifying for me. Unless they are modestly enhanced you get unnatural boobs and insensitive nipples.

    Those Sd looking for eye candy to make them look ” successful ” are probably much more impressed by the enhanced versions. Were I emperor I would decree that women are not allowed to have breast enhancement before 24 without a valid medical reason. Ditto for the vaginal area plastic surgery which I understand is the rage of the 18 yo in Hollywood.

    Often the late maturing breasts are awesome and still have a natural resonant frequency about twice that of a normal walking pace well into the 30’s.

  250. SouthernSB says:

    Boobs? Heck I need the whole “Kate Plus 8” Mommy Makeover!! Everything between my south of my neck and north of my knees needs nipping, tucking, lifting and just plain sucking. But then, I lost over 100 lbs. So I pretty much think it’s a necessary more than just vanity.

  251. @SexyRockstar
    I wasn’t at all insinuating that breasts after kids are diminished. I have known women who like them just the same after kids, liked them more after kids and some who were missing their pre-kid boobs after kids. I don’t have kids but would think that I would appreciate mine that much more after they served a biological purpose!

  252. SexyRockstar says:

    My boobs got huge while pregnant and nursing. After all of that, they got smaller then what they originally were to begin with. Oh well, I love my kids and my boobs are wonderful just the way they are.

  253. Haha weird. Just typed this post and I’m listening to NPR and they actually said “boobs”. Multiple times. Lmao

  254. @Josh
    Thanks for the perspective. I feel like I pretty much agree with you. What?! Vic Sec was moderated?! So dirty! LoL

    @SexyRockstar
    I’m glad your SD enlightened you to the world of fake v. real. Again I don’t judge and say one must do what makes her feel confident, but like Josh said, unless they are just so super small or maybe perhaps if they became very damaged by child birth / nursing etc, I say stay natural. They just really so feel and look so much better and heck, they’re real!

    I do however feel like women who get them after kids , if they really started out with a nice rack, and ended up with much less… I feel like that is more “reconstructive” than it is “cosmetic”. If course it’s all one in the same but for instance if you get hit in the face with a baseball and your nose breaks, the process to fix it is possibly very much the same as that of someone who simply wants a smaller/ prettier nose… But to compare the two would be silly.

  255. SexyRockstar says:

    @Josh

    Calm down, my love. Breathe. We get it. Boobs=awesome if they jiggle. And my boobs bounce a ton. I am good.

    Anyways. Bears are losing. I need to drink.

  256. Josh says:

    @StruggleIsReal

    The universe of boobs is divided among three main types:

    1. Stationary: As long as the stationary boobs are well crafted either by nature, spanx, VS, or a surgeon, it does not matter if they are natural or expensive.

    2. Bouncing: Natural boobs bounce better. Larger the better.

    3. In bed: Natural boobs of any size over A are better in bed.

    Now, if a woman is flat chested and there is no way in hell she is getting natural boobs popping out anytime soon, then she should beg, borrow or steal and engage a surgeon.

  257. Josh says:

    WTF! v-i-c-t-r-i-a-s s-e-c-r-e-t is being blocked.

  258. Josh says:

    1. Stationary: As long as the stationary b**bs are well crafted either by nature, VS, or a surgeon, it does not matter if they are natural or expensive.

  259. Josh says:

    2. Bouncing: Natural boobs bounce better. Larger the better.

    3. In bed: Natural boobs of any size over A are better in bed.

    Now, if a woman is flat chested and there is no way in hell she is getting natural boobs popping out anytime soon, then she should beg, borrow or steal and engage a surgeon.

  260. Josh says:

    @StruggleIsReal

    The universe of boobs is divided among three main types:

  261. Josh says:

    Hmmm, my boob post is being moderated… :(

  262. SexyRockstar says:

    I was telling my SD I wanted fake boobs. He looked at me like I was crazy. He took me to a strip club, asked a stripper if I could touch her boobs because I was interested in getting mine done.

    …I WILL NEVER EVER GET FAKE BOOBS HOLY SHIT. I’ll stick to being naturally pretty. HAHAHA

  263. @Elaine
    Agreed! Yes. I have a friend who is just so darn small that it really isn’t very attractive… but then at the same time yes she is so thin that I don’t think the look of fake breasts would be attractive because she hasn’t enough fat to cushion around the fake parts.
    I have heard of that thing where you can be supplemented with your own fat, but doesn’t the fat just re-absorb into your own body after a few months?
    Honestly I was SHOCKED when I heard about how many of my young friends were getting so many surgical and injectable enhancements. I was like… woah, did I miss the memo here or something! LoL! Not to be judgemental at all, but it just makes me wonder… if they are already this much on board… how will they be in their 30s and 40s and beyond?!

  264. Elaine says:

    @StruggleIsReal

    I think most fake boobs look (and feel!) very silly.
    True, some are done in a very nice way and you would not immediately see it, but you would always feel.

    Although of course I can understand women with very small breasts to want to enhance them!
    Luckely now there is this new technique where they use your own fat to enhance or correct, this is a great, natural looking and feeling!

  265. Okay trying this one more time… trying to see why my Gravatar isn’t showing up… :(

  266. Alright what the heck?! Where is my super adorable pittie smile?! It better post this time! :(

  267. @Josh
    Ah, thanks for the clarification. Ha. I do like turnips but a whole wagon could be a bit much.

    Since we are all talking tits…

    How do you men feel about fake tits v. real?
    How do you ladies feel?

    I am pretty much “to each his/her own”, however my personal preference is natural. I am bisexual with a leaning towards men… (meaning I will always need a man in my, ahem, life…) however I like a few select women. I am picky. But for me, I would prefer a woman with natural breasts any day. Then again like I said, I am very picky so I don’t just hook up with “any” woman. Usually their natural breasts are pretty darn spot on. I myself am natural and have to say that most of my life, I felt like I was “small”. Boy has that turned out to be to my benefit now. I would have always said my main attractive features would be my face, legs, ass, or overall body frame, etc. But lately I have been heavily complimented on my breasts…. size, perkiness, etc. While I have certainly enjoyed and appreciated them, I have never thought them anything special. I am wondering if honestly these men just were happy to see healthy, perky breasts that weren’t surgically enhanced?
    Thoughts?

  268. flyR says:

    “And he should invest in a dictionary instead of a sugar baby”

    too funny

  269. Josh says:

    @LadyScarlett

    “Chimp tits? Really, Josh? I saw sugary’s avatar…her breasts look very firm and sexy…better than mine!”

    1. TurnipWagonSD is clueless. So what does he know.
    2. The right bra can change the boob equation any which way you want it to. 😉

  270. SouthernSB says:

    @SexyRockStar-Some people just can’t keep their lies straight. Oh well, at least he’s entertaining.

  271. LadyScarlett says:

    Chimp tits? Really, Josh? I saw sugary’s avatar…her breasts look very firm and sexy…better than mine!

  272. SouthernSB says:

    I think he not only needs a dictionary, he also needs a class in basic math and economics. IDK, maybe you should have told him that the local Community College is taking applications in Jan. LOL.

  273. Josh says:

    @StruggleIsReal

    “Ummm what is a “TurnipWagon” ? LOL”

    TurnipWagonSD is a proxy blog id I created. He is clueless SD, an illiterate in many (any?) language…an anti-thesis to Josh Guru.

    He used to call SugarySpicey, “chimp tits.” She protested so I retired him. But it seems that SubarySpicey misses him now and egging me to revive him. 😉

  274. SexyRockstar says:

    Oh..his house also went to 6 bedrooms to 5 bedrooms.

    He also told me he was 20 min away…then told me 30 with no traffic. This guy is…very. Interesting.

  275. SexyRockstar says:

    He’s 55. 500 dollars for 3 days? Yeah…i’ll pass. If we are doing the math right, 3 X 24 =72. Therefore, i’d be with him 72 hours. 500/72= 6.9

    Yeah, thats less then min. wage here in IL. I am glad I am smart. He will hook some young girl. I’d rather just get a job then be with him. He’s not good looking. I told him I wasn’t interested. And he should invest in a dictionary instead of a sugar baby :(

  276. SouthernSB says:

    @SexyRockStar-See illiterate in two languages. He’s probably really cute. Run away and don’t look back!! LOL!!

  277. LadyScarlett says:

    @sexy, it sounds like a young man is home and very bored this weekend–think it is a prank.

  278. Elaine says:

    @ Sexyrockstar

    Haha this is comedy material! LOL

  279. Rebecca says:

    Ommgggg Rockstar, what do you have written in your profile to attract that weirdo?! (sarcasm)
    I would report the guy. Although, nothing happens unless you personally contact Brandon to remove the account.

  280. @SexyRockstar
    I have no idea, but I know what I’d say back…. [nothing]! LoL

  281. SexyRockstar says:

    Okay..this was an interesting email:
    I CAN FIRE YOU UP SO MUCH GIVEING YOU SO MANY ORAL ORGASIMS YOULL MELT CALL ME ***8 3** **** IM A VERBOL ORAL PERSON LIVE 20 MINUTES FROM YOU IN 6 BEDROOM HOUSE ALL BY MY SELF IM FREE AND OWN MY OWN PLASTIC BUSINESS SEND ME YOUR NUMBER and some pics to my e mail

    I responded with:
    Please learn to spell, thank you

    He Responds with:
    I’m close to you in big 5 bedroom house i like weaken dats fri to sunday pay 500 cash for that and you receive nice perks like lots of oral orgasims mivc dinners ganging call me you love my sexy drrp voice call me *** *** **** or send me your number ti my e maik with some pics you’ll love my dexy deep voice pus ima decorated ver

    ((I sat there for like, an hour trying to think of what he was actually saying to me))
    I Respond with:
    I told you, please learn to spell. I have no idea what you said. I actually speak Spanish as well as English…but I have no idea what that says… And no, hickory hills is not close to me…that’s about a forty min drive

    He Responds with:
    smart ass there some thing wrong with my key board and i fired my personal assissiant i can’t type got 7 women who work for me do all the typing in a verbal oral wiz with the command of the english language its only 30 minutes down 55 to lagrange no traffic to hickory hill call me toull like me

    …WHAT THE FUCK DID HE JUST SAY TO ME

  282. Ummm what is a “TurnipWagon” ? LOL

  283. flyR says:

    Josh says:
    November 23, 2014 at 6:21 am

    @flyR

    Was SugarySpicey’s last post:

    1. wise?

    2. Sage?

    3. Priceless?

    4. All of the above?

    😉

    Didn’t read it beyond a couple of lines.

  284. flyR says:

    Southern SB “”Frankly, I wish””

    I wish there was a filter………

    @Josh “Seemed like women thing so I skipped right passed it.” Some people go through life ignoring information that conflicts with their emotional end ego needs.

  285. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB

    “After all who wants someone who is illiterate in two languages?”

    Hahahahaha!

  286. SouthernSB says:

    @JoshGuru-TurnipWagons are my projects, sugar is how I am going to ween myself off of them. After all who wants someone who is illiterate in two languages?

  287. SouthernSB says:

    Frankly, I wish Sugary and Lainey would stop responding to each other or at least take the entire thing to their e-mail accts. as it is really getting quite boring and tedious. BTW, no Josh, I especially don’t want TunipWagon back. He gives me a headache. The only way I like broken English is in cute illegal Central American immigrants.

  288. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    “@ Josh

    As you very well know I never share any info about meeting anyone here on blog!”

    You can’t have it both ways my dear…

    Either you have met him in person and can “guarantee” that he is a “he” or you have not met him is person and just making up your “guarantee” just to counter my assertion. 😉

  289. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey

    “And, off blog most of us laugh that you and Josh are clearly one and the same,”

    It’s funny you say that. ON and OFF BLOG most of us laugh that you are a nutcase who specializes in ending up with weird men again and again and again. It’s not necessarily a bad thing though. You’re like Tim Ferriss. You experiment with psycho men so that you may advise women from first-hand experience. “Noble” approach after all.

    “or you’re persona you’ve created on the blog is so feeble you use his persona to mimic.”

    Can’t say that Lainey has been doing that but IF she is then so be it.

    “1. She posted that she is a natural blonde, then posted a photo showing that to clearly be a lie.”

    Don’t know where this is coming from.

    “2. She claims to be Ivy League educated, yet lacks exposure to the most basic general education topics covered in Ivy curricula”

    What “general education topics” are “covered in Ivy curricula” dear?

    “3. She claims to work in fashion design yet can’t convert standard European sizes into U.S. even though their is an easily Google-able size chart that is used on a global scale.”

    I read about size conversion a couple of days ago. Seemed like women thing so I skipped right passed it.

    “4. She claims to be a my misanthropic sociopath (the key symptom of which being compulsive lying and a perception that one is uniquely victimized).”

    If “lying” and acting “uniquely victimized” are the symptoms of being misanthropic sociopath, then may I ask if you are one as well?

    “And, most ridiculous, she claims to have been taken on a $100,000 shopping spree.”

    Now, THAT was interesting shit Lainey talked about. But since she claimed to have dated a professional-level ball player…who knows.

    “Yes, Lainey, I will take you up on that offer to prove it with your Avatar,”

    I want to see that receipt as well. I am curious too.

    “with your fingers in a hand gesture (your choice) included in the photo,”

    What if Lainey gives you a hand gesture without a receipt. Does that count?

    “and a time stamp.”

    I would love to see how Lainey is going to do that.

    “Any more lies we need to chit-chat about “J-ainey”?

    You chit-chat with Rebecca not Lainey, S-lyR.

    “go back to posting either as Josh”

    How can she do that. If she did, then she would have to post without Josh’s cool avatar.

    “(a proven, and repeated proxy maker)”

    Jou wan TurnipWagonSD back mi dear? But e can’t stop taking bout tits.

  290. Elaine says:

    @ Josh

    As you very well know I never share any info about meeting anyone here on blog!

  291. Josh says:

    Have you met him in person?

  292. Elaine says:

    @ Josh

    Because I know him.

  293. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    How can you “guarantee” that flyR “absolutely is no she”? I am curious…

  294. Elaine says:

    @ONSD

    Rate flyR’s advice however you want, but I can guarantee he absolutely is no she! LOL

  295. Josh says:

    @ONSD

    As usual flyR gives you a female perspective because he’s a “she” posting as a “he”.

    The double profile is a scam. You don’t get two for the price of one. You get two for the price of two but they spend time with you simultaneously so you are essentially getting half the time with each.

    As a matter of fact, they will spend even less time with you because they will spend half of the time entertaining each other.

    So unless you have a fetish to be with two women and/or to see two women intimate together, getting two SBs together is a lousy deal.

  296. flyR says:

    @Newbie “” if I followed that logic, why would I want to investigate either of the individual profiles when I could get them both for the same “price”?””

    It all depends . I think for some SB’s especially younger it is more comfortable.

    Think of it as the equivalent of the mixed appetizer plate at Trader Vic’s, samples to help you pick the main course/

  297. Josh says:

    @flyR

    Was SugarySpicey’s last post:

    1. wise?

    2. Sage?

    3. Priceless?

    4. All of the above?

    😉

  298. Elaine says:

    Just saw the profile, she actually IS young!

    Chapeau! Smart and mature kind of girl!
    No pic, but being an SD, I would be very intrigued.

    Maybe I should contact her as sugarmommy, haha.

  299. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    Love that profile!
    I wish I would have had the language skills to haven written it!

    Based upon my own experience, if she also has a good picture, her mailbox will not explode, but will attract some great and serious SDs!

    A profile like this doesn’t attrackt weirdo’s.
    It weeds them out because it speaks an intelligence weirdo’s avoid like the plague.
    They know this is no bimbo to mess around with.

    May I ask her age?
    Don’t know, but to me it doesn’t seem like a profile of a very young girl?

  300. @OnlineNewb
    I concur!
    I wrote a thorough profile for myself and have been pleased with the response. It didn’t take long either. I will say I responded to one pot SD who had a very terse profile but something about it felt very genuine… And he did turn out to be very genuine and kind.

  301. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Struggle – I agree with an earlier sentiment (sorry can’t @ the statement, too far to scroll while writing the message) about longer profiles and shorter emails…

    It would be VERY nice to find a SB on here that would actually read a profile, since I spend the time to read the profile AND reference it in initial communications.

    It’s also a significant turn-on when a profile talks about a woman, instead of a women…she has her its, it’s, your, you’re, there, their, they’re, etc properly configured…

    Let’s show a LITTLE investment in the DESIRE for an arrangement, rather than minimum effort…because I’ll say I think minimum effort on a profile probably means minimum effort on an arrangement!

  302. @OnlineNewb @Josh
    Yeah, while I do appreciate the profile, as a woman it felt a bit “pointed”…. which is the paradox because certainly a profile on here *would* have a certain aim, however I think it could be a little less obvious. But I do like her confidence and ability to use her words.

  303. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    Is it a new trend to see “double” profiles on SA? I’ve had a handful in the last couple of days hit my search filter…two SBs on one profile, advertising themselves as a “double your pleasure” or similar…I find it funny when I see a personal profile, then the next one in the list has two people listed, then the next one in the list appears to be the second person from the above profile…all three profiles are listed as Moderate expectation, if I followed that logic, why would I want to investigate either of the individual profiles when I could get them both for the same “price”?

  304. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – any woman who can properly use the word plethora in her profile has my attention! It’s one of my favorite words…don’t know why…other than that, she was a bit wordy…

    agree with @Struggle that I’d need a picture as well…until SA does the silhouette idea discussed (such a GREAT idea), need to see if her pic matches MY definition of chosen classification.

  305. @SexyRockstar
    Hey you’re the one who made a pass on me! Haha
    But I feel ya although yes for me, I enjoy girls too. Yes I tend to be into men more often but…

  306. SexyRockstar says:

    @Struggle
    Only female I will go lesbian for is Britney Spears. Thanks it. I love men…thats all. HAHA.

    Ladies, please stop. I enjoy you all. And Miss Spicey, I adore you, but please, do not insult my friend. I am NOT taking sides because blog drama is all sorts of silly, but bulling her and what not…arint you doing something similar to her as what you claim she does to others. I don’t want that to come off mean or anything…just saying

  307. Haha nooo I am a SB! But I like girls too. And while I’m not one to toot my own horn, I have certainly been described as hot :)

    Chows are awesome. So loyal and protective.

  308. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey – I said you are mean, because you are (the most recent example at the time I said it was your rudeness toward nicegirl), I said you were crazy, because you are (you are a diagnosed sociopath), I Said You Have Baggage Because You Do (you have proclaimed to struggle with severe paranoia). And, off blog most of us laugh that you and Josh are clearly one and the same, or you’re persona you’ve created on the blog is so feeble you use his persona to mimic. Either way, truths we’ve learned about Lainey:

    1. She posted that she is a natural blonde, then posted a photo showing that to clearly be a lie.
    2. She claims to be Ivy League educated, yet lacks exposure to the most basic general education topics covered in Ivy curricula
    3. She claims to work in fashion design yet can’t convert standard European sizes into U.S. even though their is an easily Google-able size chart that is used on a global scale.
    4. She claims to be a my misanthropic sociopath (the key symptom of which being compulsive lying and a perception that one is uniquely victimized).
    And, most ridiculous, she claims to have been taken on a $100,000 shopping spree. Yes, Lainey, I will take you up on that offer to prove it with your Avatar, with your fingers in a hand gesture (your choice) included in the photo, and a time stamp. Any more lies we need to chit-chat about “J-ainey”? OR, can you stop being unnecessarily rude, and go back to posting either as Josh (a proven, and repeated proxy maker) or as crazy Lainey (without tearing women to shred just because you disagree with them).

  309. SexyRockstar says:

    …oh. HAHA.

    So sorry. Wait…are you a hot girl? Sugar Mama? I kissed a girl once, and I could dig it.

    I grew up with a Chow…miss him so much :( He passed when I was 19, got em when I was about 3.

  310. @SexyRockstar
    Deal!….
    except I am a girl, so not sure of your thoughts on that! Haha But I can definitely provide the pitbulls. No Chow at the moment but easy enough to procure :)

  311. SexyRockstar says:

    @struggle

    I will be your sugar baby ONLY if you can find a place that will let me have a Chow and a Pitbull….then buy me said Chow and PitBull. k thanks <3

  312. Josh says:

    Do you own a $3,000 purse?

  313. @Josh
    Ok I’d actually need to see a pic and to interact as my attraction is largely based upon legit chemistry but at least from a first read she sounds super hot and cool.

  314. @Josh

    Wow. Quite a profile indeed! I’d do her!

  315. @Josh
    I have always chuckled at your breaking down of the word “assume”. It’s gaining notoriety of a legendary type. Haha.
    Nopes, I don’t “need” to be here…. but then again I am… So what does that say?
    Oh wait, was that your gentlemanly encouragement that I share more about myself (as your BFF @flyR previously put forth)?

  316. Josh says:

    @StruggleIsReal

    And is it fair to ass-u-me that you’re here for kicks and grins, and not because you need to be here? 😉

  317. My dawgs are the shiz and are well-storied. Haha

  318. Josh says:

    She can use editing help I guess.

  319. SexyRockstar says:

    @Joshy

    Well, written, but….

    I feel like that would attract the fakes :)

  320. Josh says:

    @StruggleIsReal

    Hmmm, you won’t post your dogs’ photo for “privacy reason.”

    Really? 😉

  321. Josh says:

    Whether she is your thing or not, but she sure has an interesting profile. Happy reading…

    About Me

    Finally. A true woman that offers a surrealistic experience. I am exocitism, I am an illusion, I can be domineering and I can be submissive, but perhaps more importantly, I am the master of discretion. I understand the importance of roles, and upholding an image, and every business man with a trophy wife is expected in this life to be satisfied with the bare blonde minimum. But, what happens when the dark, taboo sexual urges that are so human refuse to fester and remove themselves? What happens when a man of power wants to step outside of his conventional life and live like a beastly freak? This is the part where I like to introduce myself, this is a role I first learned of 2 weeks after my 18th birthday and ever since then, I saw just how necessary it was. I’ve accepted the fact that my being is not built for relationships, children, or politeness. I am not a prostitute, I’m too intelligent and attentive for that. And, I’m also not your girlfriend, because you’re not the only man who needs me. I, am a secret. I’m your imaginary friend, I’m your stress reliever, maybe even your wife’s relief. You’ll never feel ashamed, because it doesn’t exist. I am quite the spiritualist, and no I’m not a spell-casting creep, I just have the world figured out. I’ve been to South America, Japan, Egypt, all over Europe, Canada, at this point just pick a place. So there is the well traveled qualification. As far as having real conversations, I am interested in a variety of things…I’ll go to the Metropolitan Opera with you, and I’ll go hunting with you in that same weekend. I’ll eat a burger and fries with you or we can stop by Norma’s, whatever you like. Politics, real estate, the environment, I’ve seen enough to comment on a plethora of topics. And as far as availability, I’ve called out of weekend shifts way too many times to link up with my current suitor, an honest con, but whatever I’m there when needed. Sometimes a CEO just needs to go the jungle. I aim to please. I succeed.

    What I’m looking for

    One thing that needs to be understood by these other baby-trapping sorority sluts, if the Sugar Daddy runs out of money…what’s the point? You don’t need to give me a net worth that I didn’t work for, you earned it, keep it, for I’m well on my way to securing my own Forbes fortune. Ha, don’t I have a cute little way with words? But in the meantime, I like nice things and I’ve learned how to get them, and so I crave them. You’re going to want to keep me well-groomed and dressed, and you’re going to want to make sure I’m able to get to you at all times, so I’m really not asking for much. Just a little allowance, a gift here and there.

  322. @Josh
    I’m a total sucker for a big dog smile :)
    My own dogs have even more amazing smiles than the one on my gravatar, but obviously I won’t post them for privacy reasons. But…. They really do melt me.

  323. Josh says:

    @StruggleIsReal

    “@Josh
    I don’t know. It’s damn cute, whatever it is :)”

    Pretty much Heath Ledger joker looks cute? 😉

  324. SexyRockstar says:

    Check your mail babe

  325. SexyRockstar says:

    It’s not a totally finished video, so I am putting it in my drop box for you, LOL.

  326. Lainey says:

    YAY! CAN’T WAIT @SexyRockstar! Mslaineybaby at g mail dot com

  327. @Lainey
    Understood. How’d your Sat. night?

  328. SexyRockstar says:

    @ Lainey

    I want to show you a video I recently made whats your email

  329. Lainey says:

    @StruggleIsReal is you don’t like drama, don’t get involved. If my “tude” is not directed towards you then let it pass you by or you’ll likely find yourself on the receiving end. Let’s keep things peaceful between us, as they were.

  330. Josh says:

    This chick is awesome.

    []https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ngn-KbqxgrQ&list=UUGovoKh9Btk1zDL5l8BeBDQ[]

  331. What the heck is a “vagina toting man”?! And how much does the local fair charge for admission ?!

  332. @Josh

    I don’t know. It’s damn cute, whatever it is :)

  333. Josh says:

    Is that a real dog face. Looks Photoshopped to me. 😉

  334. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    “She’ll ween off eventually as long as vagina toting men, such as yourself, stop jumping to her defense even when she is clearly wrong.”

    Is “vagina toting man” = mangina, or something different? 😉

  335. Well wonderful, it seems it stuck.

    @Lainey
    Sweetie drop the ‘tude. You’re just stressing yourself out. I’m not razzing you but just saying…. chill. It’s the interwebs. Wanna cure cancer? Let’s get together.

    @SouthernSB
    You sound like a pretty damn legit chick. I hope you’re having a nice Sat. eve :)

  336. Okay now testing this comment/gravatar from my phone …

  337. Josh says:

    Re: The “bigger person” bullshit!

    The “bigger man” bullshit has been advised to me in the past instead of being advised to the drama originators.

    The “logic” behind such suggestion is that a bullying, illogical woman is NOT going to stop.

    The sensible party is advised to be the “better person” or “better man.” This is done to protect the bullying, illogical participant because they don’t want to be on the wrong side of the bullying, illogical participant.

    This is eerily similar to the “logic” of advising a raped woman to refrain from pressing charges against her rapist because the rapist “may” come after the advising women next if they did not advise the raped woman to be a “better woman”.

    Constructive criticism: I have a Phd in analogy creation. If you are going to challenge my analogy then get your IQ tested first. Otherwise, I will chase you for a little while (or maybe a long while if I have time) on the blog…Hahahahaha!

  338. SexyRockstar says:

    @Midwest

    PLEASE, ugh i’d love you forever. Can you also bring me chocolate cake from Portillios please

  339. Lainey says:

    @SoutherSB now THAT was constructive criticism! Thank you. But I will say we had a debate that was on the level about feminism and orgasms, she made a snide remark during that which I just laughed off. Clearly that didn’t sit well so she went for the gusto yesterday in my absence. @SugarSpicey has a way of sparking a flame, dropping the mic and exciting stage left leaving fellow bloggers to either feed or extinguish her fires. She’s a crafty little b*tch. The key here is for people to stop getting involved.

  340. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey

    “Josh – instead of discussing the actual point, your assertion that women don’t like sex, you’re making nonsense either/or scenarios that dismiss female sexual satisfaction as a ridiculous entitlement complex rather than responding to issue.”

    The “actual point” is that women don’t give a shit about “intercourse.”

    I am not using “sex” anymore because you totally confused my assertion…by replacing sex=intercourse with “sensual play” and then kept going on and on.

    “The question stands: have you ever had a sexual relationship with a woman who”

    “genuinely enjoyed,”

    I guess they were enjoying…

    “craved,”

    Seemed to…can’t confirm…

    “wanted,”

    Yes…

    “needed,”

    Don’t know…

    “lusted for”

    Some of them seemed to…

    “frequently initiated”

    Some did…

    Any your point was?

  341. @flyR Gladly! Let me just post this sad short little comment to make sure that my uber adorable newly-acquired gravatar is showing up….

  342. Midwestsugardaddy says:

    @SexyRockstar, It is very cold there! I’ll bring some warm chicken soup tomorrow morning. Get some rest and stay hydrated.

  343. flyR says:

    @Struggles – You might tell us a little more about yourself (not suggesting any personal info)

  344. flyR says:

    @ Sexy Not sure who it was that suggested a fake male profile to test the waters from the other side of the bridge.

    My guess is that if you wrote a male profile something like

    I’m a cool guy, successful attorney looking for some hot action on the side of a marriage gone bad. I’m hoping to find someone this weekend to start a long term relationship. Regular allowance plus gifts and shopping (I love to see smiles) all the better if cuffs are a turnon.

    My guess is that you would get a lot of responses.
    you would probably get a lot of responses in many markets.

  345. SexyRockstar says:

    Dude it’s cold here. I think I got sick from traveling. Can someone bring me something

  346. StruggleIsReal says:

    @Lainey
    Gotcha girl, and I totally agree. Promise, you don’t need claws with me… unless you’re looking for some raging crazy 3some. Now that could be fun :)
    And thank you for the advice. I will go to gravatar and get an identity.

  347. SouthernSB says:

    @Lainey-Sometimes we just have to be the bigger person and just let things go. Even if the other person is wrong. Seriously be the bigger person and don’t let such small stuff get the better of you. All this stress is bad for your health and does nothing for your long term mental health (not saying there is anything wrong with your mental health), not only that drama isn’t good for your waistline or your complexion and stress causes premature wrinkling. Now, I know you say this doesn’t stress you out and you don’t have drama but believe me all this still affects you. Speaking as the eldest female member of this blog, I have to say that your style of posting is affecting everyone here (including you) and is isn’t in a good way.

  348. Lainey says:

    Go to gravatar dot com. You have to make an account and then upload picture.

  349. Lainey says:

    @StruggleIsReal we shall see. I’m OK with opinions. Debating is healthy as long as it doesn’t get personal. *puts claws away*

  350. StruggleIsReal says:

    Hey,
    How do I change my avatar? I don’t like the blue thingy.

  351. Lainey says:

    Women’s Logic Of The Day: “I don’t like drama, buuuutttt…”

  352. StruggleIsReal says:

    @NiceGirl
    Thank you for the kind reception!

    @Lainey
    Well… you’re a controversial one for sure. I mean nothing by that except for … just that :) I think we will get on just fine.

    I like hearing others’ thoughts and experiences even if they differ from mine.

  353. Lainey says:

    That’s the problem btw. It started with @Elaine and I and as time went on minions jumped in to either participate or defend, thus making it bigger than what it was. Now that I am not at petty odds with the other ladies (except @SugarSpicey because she can’t seem to stay on topic) people such as @Carmen @NiceGirl and @StruggleIsReal find it ok to jump in and scold or insult me not knowing the origin of the animosity to which I say “mind your f*cking business, no one needs a captain-save-a-ho! We are all capable adults!” If you “don’t like drama” stop inserting yourself. #YoureWelcome.

  354. Lainey says:

    @NiceGirl Lmao oh yes. Let me allow myself to be psychoanalyzed by a female with grade school vocabulary and logic. Where should I send the check for this riveting session?

  355. Lainey says:

    @StruggleIsReal oh yes because you jumping into it will make it so much better. #Logic

  356. SexyRockstar says:

    EVERYBODY DANCE NOW. mer, mer mer mer…mer, um ma mer mer mer EVERYBODY DANCE NOW

  357. Nicegirl says:

    @StruggleReal – I am very sorry and yes I agree. Welcome ;o)

  358. Nicegirl says:

    @Lainey, You target women that are inherently confident. The problem with that for you, is that we are not affected internally by your comments, annoyed yes, affected definitely not. You are just an over grown bully that has found the safety of “blog bulling” as your enjoyment to fill voids in your life. You should seek some sort of therapy for that. However, that would require admitting the problem is you not everyone around you.

    I have a date to get ready for so you can argue with no response… I will be sipping a martini soon and you will not be on my mind ;o)

  359. StruggleIsReal says:

    Hi friends. I have been lurking on these forums for a long time and have posted a few times but nothing of consequence.
    Lately I just cannot believe all the fighting! This is a forum where we should all be exchanging information and supporting each other… not degrading each other.

    Anyhow, I just wanted to make an intro and say hello as I hope to be more involved in posting in the future. And I also hope to not be ripped to shreds! LoL.

  360. Lainey says:

    @NiceGirl if they spoke loud and clear you’d realize now would be a good time to shut it and stop back tracking about your post because anyone could read it and know what you meant. The other women, though I may disagree with them OFTEN, I at least respect that they are intelligent and own their shit. You, my poor girl, are neither.

  361. Nicegirl says:

    hmmmm… you do tend to make assumptions and fly off the handle. Keep calling me stupid, I really don’t care. As I have said before, your posts do speak loud and clear “LAINEY”. I think putting others down makes your life seem better. The only problem is that it doesn’t really work that way. I was making a general statement about crazy… there are a few on here, you aren’t the only one I think is a bit unstable.

  362. Lainey says:

    No I @’ed you and spoke to you directly. You did to me what @SugarSpicey did to me, which was reference me without @’ing me. Do you even know the definition of passive-aggressive? Don’t be coy, when unintelligent people try to be coy it just comes off as stupid

  363. Nicegirl says:

    Why do you automatically assume I am referring to you Lainey? #Shrug

    btw..You just did to me what you accused sugarspice of doing to you… Ironic? Not so sure.

  364. Lainey says:

    @NiceGirl sometimes it’s just better to admit that your intelligence level does not allow you to comprehend logic thus making it “crazy” to you. #Shrug

  365. Nicegirl says:

    Sometimes it is just better to no try and rationalize with crazy. That will always be a no win conversation that is peppered with insulting, crude comments. Best advice is to just ignore the crazies.

  366. Lainey says:

    @SexyRockstar dude. What about when you do send a completely normal, cute picture and you get “come on, you can do better than that!” WTF?! Go to pornhub creep.

  367. Lainey says:

    @flyR I’m aware of what was written. If I can say the things I’ve said and it didn’t spark a dispute with @Elaine and @SouthernSB then it wasn’t that serious because they recognize that “If it doesn’t apply, let it fly!” @SugarSpicey felt the need to take on the issue for the whole female population. The debate was on the level UNTIL @SugarSpicey decided to reference my avatar because it is a foreign concept to her to STAY ON TOPIC. She has yet to “win” a debate on a factual basis. She blatantly LIES or turns it personal and pulls someone down to her level because she can only “win” on an emotional battlefield but what makes her dumb beyond belief, is that she keeps trying to use this tactic with someone devoid of emotion. Idgaf of her opinion of me or how I’m perceived. That’s why I’ll address it, point it out and laugh at her attempt then get back to the topic at hand as I did when she referenced my avatar. We will only continue to go in circles because I don’t care and when she is ignored or I’m not feeding into it she will try to spark shit in my absence. I’m pretty certain she was hoping she’d get a buzz going amongst the bloggers by making the claim that she did but instead it was ignored and bypassed. She’s like a whiny infant suckling my tit. She’ll ween off eventually as long as vagina toting men, such as yourself, stop jumping to her defense even when she is clearly wrong.

  368. SexyRockstar says:

    So, I was going through my text messages…cleaning them out. Why are men so..FUCKN RUDE over text messages. One of them was ‘Hey xxx, this is xxx, from SA” . Lets play a game..what do you think he responded with:

    -Oh Hello there, how is your day?
    -Hey beautiful.
    -Hey (says my name) nice to ‘meet you’ so dinner tonight?
    -Picture?

    Yeah, not a single hello. The above have been pretty normal responses. I told him to go to my profile, pick a favorite and I will send him that one. He responds with “Please” so then I sent him a picture of me eating a pizza flipping him off.

    Where the FUCK do people get their manners from. Shhhiiittttt, at least, he said please.

  369. Nicegirl says:

    @Rebecca, that is so odd… good choice to move on. Good luck ;o)

  370. flyR says:

    Lainey – Go back over a few days and look at your posts

  371. Rebecca says:

    Nicegirl, yes I asked, but he avoided the email. He sent a (forwarded) long email talking about himself instead. The story he told does add up and my Canadian friend did verify his name/business endeavors, but I am going to focus on my local SD instead.

  372. NIcegirl says:

    @flyR says:
    November 22, 2014 at 9:27 am

    Re Body type

    Perhaps SA should pick 8 well known women with body types across a broad spectrum , show only the silhouettes and ask you to pick the one closest. Using profiles of popular women would affix a positive to a broad range of body types from Twiggy to Monroe.

    It’s not just body types. There are women who overstate and understate their educational and other profile items. As someone noted earlier it’s often a good strategy to under promise. Yes I am sure it works both ways with SD profiles.”

    I LOVE that idea – men should have the same option (you can hide a lot under a suit). Just height and weight are not very good indicators because everyone carries weight differently based on frame and genetics.

    Funny story – I when shopping with my niece today and I was taking her jeans shopping. As we were in the car talking about the awesome things we had found she says “ya know, thigh gaps are soooo out” lol, I looked and her and said “What are you talking about?” she said “Now hips are what all the girls want.” Ugh… my response “thigh gap, hips, boobs, no boobs, butt, no butt. Lets just like the body the good lord gave us and move on!”

  373. NIcegirl says:

    @ Rebecca,

    Did you ask him why he was sending those pics to you? I would have been interested in his answer. I have gotten more straight up inappropriate messages but the interesting thing is that most of the time when I call them on it they profusely apologize and try to start over.

  374. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    flyR alternates his idiotic posts with accolades for SugarySpicey. For this sub everything she writes is wise, sage, priceless, etc.

    His post to you is in his strategic support for SugarySpicey and in no way from the point of view of disinterested third party.

    When I started posting and SugarySpicey went on attack, flyR started dissing me WITHOUT any provocation from me.

    SugarySpicey’s supporters are a very “interesting” bunch to say the least. 😉

  375. Lainey says:

    @FlyR In addition, I REACT with claws deployed. So, there must be an initial “action”. Even during our debate on feminism I try my best to be broad, stay on topic and not make any claims about anyone’s personal life and yet this happens to me regularly. Why? Because an illogical Woman can’t debate on her own merit without making it personal in an attempt to evoke emotion thus bringing her opponent to her playing field. Women, such as herself, ALWAYS need to correlate something back to emotion. I.e. I’m direct and rude so I MUST be “angry”. Not to mention her redundantly circular logic. I believe her campaign to be “repeat it til is true!”

  376. Plus if a Pot can’t take the time to write a complete profile, then how serious can they be.

  377. Personally I like long profiles and short emails. I write it once, and then I don’t have to explain it in each and every email I write. Too time consuming to write long emails when you don’t even know if your email will get read or replied to. I also like reading long profiles. I want to know as much as possible about the SB. Escorts tend to not write much. And they tend to not read your whole profile.

  378. Lainey says:

    @FlyR I wasn’t even on the blog yesterday. Hadn’t even had an “off-topic” spat with @SugarSpicey prior YET she still felt the need to make a nasty remark about me in my absence.

    So I say “MAYBE” its the fact that no one steps up to the seething bitch when she is CLEARLY wrong so it allows her to focus her wrath on the few that do, whether they are absent or not.

  379. MyVIPSugarDaddy says:

    Shopping at Tiffany’s on fifth avenue or 5th avenue NYC itself is the best treat for a sugar baby

  380. Lainey says:

    @Elaine because depending on the designer the conversion is fucked especially with these new “special sizes” that read one size and fit way bigger to make women feel smaller. Lol. So let’s just say I’m a size 8-12. Happy now?

  381. Jake says:

    the thing is nobody in here is flirty to go shopping

  382. flyR says:

    @ Rebecca

    You might try looking carefully at your profile to see if there is something or something left out that brings the weirdos out of the woodwork.

  383. flyR says:

    Re Body type

    Perhaps SA should pick 8 well known women with body types across a broad spectrum , show only the silhouettes and ask you to pick the one closest. Using profiles of popular women would affix a positive to a broad range of body types from Twiggy to Monroe.

    It’s not just body types. There are women who overstate and understate their educational and other profile items. As someone noted earlier it’s often a good strategy to under promise. Yes I am sure it works both ways with SD profiles.

  384. flyR says:

    @Lainey – Perhaps you are mentioned frequently because you post with near Joshian frequency and often with claws fully deployed….

  385. Rebecca says:

    And no, I don’t plan on continuing with the SD who sent women’s photos lol.

  386. Rebecca says:

    I don’t attract weirdos in real life, to be honest. It seems to just be more prominent online. All of SB friends deal with strange birds from SA, so I know it isn’t personal.

  387. SouthernSB says:

    @Rebecca-Wow!! What on earth is going on that you attract these weirdos? It like they see your profile and say, “Oh yeah, I see here coming.” Its like me and the undocumented immigrant community that I seem to attract IRL, I walk down the street or go to the store and they seem to come out of the woodwork all ready to try to seduce me with their broken English and ask me to marry them regardless of their status. You really need to cut it off with those dudes, just like I keep walking and silently say to myself “Don’t look at the immigrants, don’t look at the immigrants…” as I walk down the street.

  388. Elaine says:

    @Lainey

    “@SexyRockstar that’s funny. I’m tall and I’m a 28/30 (not sure what that is in US sizing)”

    Funny,….not knowing sizes if you are such a succesful fashion designer since ehhh…what was it you said,…age 5?
    Need me to send you an international size chart?
    Could be very helpful in your job! 😉

  389. Rebecca says:

    How awkward. I was emailing with a SD and he was forwarding photos of himself to me, except they were photos of random women. They were unattractive or looked like foreign web cam models from the early 2000’s… I guess these are women from SA.

  390. Elaine says:

    @ Jerry

    Make a (non empty) profile and offer an allowance maybe?

  391. Elaine says:

    @ Nicegirl

    “@OnlineNewbie – what is up with the blank profiles anyway??? If you are too lazy to write sow, anything then you shouldn’t be allowed a profile at all. I don’t respond at all to those. It is frustrating.”

    Allowing blank profiles was a new SA marketing “asset” some of their smart geniuses came up with when introducing the new website.
    Because they are not in sugar themselves, they don’t seem to understand how stupid a move it was to allow.

    Blank profiles are NOT SERIOUSLY LOOKING FOR SUGAR!
    No serious person would go fishing WITHOUT bait!
    NO ONE with an IQ higher as 50 is responding to empty profiles.
    So what is the use/purpose of empty profiles?? EXACTLY!

    THEY ARE ONLY NOSING AROUND!!!

    Don’t understand the lack of reaction from SA members.
    I have mentioned it already some times on blog, but nothing…
    Because it gives me the creeps, everytime my profile gets those “empty” visits.
    Yes, maybe I AM paranoid, but I am with a reason!
    So I use to block them and send a message to SA that this person has NO CONTENT in his profile and is only sneaking around.
    I don’t know if they do something with it, but maybe if we all do the same they get irritated and get the message.

    Does nobody, married or in a relationship or eager on privacy for whatever reason, understands how easy it is to be found here by using an empty profile with a proxy server?

    Personally I think it has to do with SA’s ruthless chase for members, to triomfantly announce they have 3,6 million members.
    Yeah right! What quality of members is this?
    Chasing AWAY genuine members they mean!

  392. jerry says:

    Married but hot. need a good looking woman that love to have fun at home.

  393. Nicegirl says:

    Sexy – I am 5’4 and weigh 135.

  394. Nicegirl says:

    @SexyRockstar – Yep that is me and I am definitely a size 8 ;o) I workout regularly but size doesn’t meant fat that is a fact some men don’t understand or they would prefer a woman very slim but with no body shape / muscle. I think the Marilyn Monroe figure is the sexiest image ever.

  395. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey I honestly don’t know how we continue to arrive at this same conversation in which you attempt character assassinate me. I’m sure many of the bloggers have witnessed that I could be minding my business, not even on the blog for the day and one of you “women” will NO DOUBT mention me in a negative manner without the chutzpah to actually say my name. Typical drama-loving, passive-aggressive female. Everyone else I’m sure is over and tired of the pettiness from all of us. So stop referring to me simply to keep drama going or spark new drama. For a women who covets her age you sure don’t enjoy acting it.

  396. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey you can say whatever you like about black people. That’s your choice, your life, your opinion. I don’t care how I’m “perceived” nor do I need you to take me “under your wing” and constructively criticize me. That’s what you don’t understand. Women are always trying to make someone their little project. NOTHING about your snide remarks is constructive or comes from a kind place so you can save it and put all that extra energy into fixing yourself because unbeknownst to you a psychologist my have some choice assessments about your “liberated” lifestyle.

  397. Lainey says:

    “a paranoid compulsive liar with multiple personalities/bipolarism and attachment disorders by your own admission”

    @SugarSpicey but is it really any wonder why I dislike women? Look at how you choose to debate; with blatant lies simply because it fits your current agenda of painting the picture that I’m “crazy” DESPITE the fact that the TRUTH is already posted on this very blog. These are NOT my “conditions” and don’t even represent the same characteristics of what I suffer but another great yet failed attempt by your to throw shit at the wall to see if it sticks. BRAVA!

  398. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey – imagine I replaced your claims about women with “black people”. Would it be considered anything but awful if I continuously claimed that “black people” were stupid, illogical, lazy, and entitled? NO, I would be considered prejudiced and mean – as are you by 95% of blog readers. Take it as constructive criticism and grow from it rather than defending it. Nobody but you believes tour mean and feeble defenses.

  399. SugarySpicey says:

    Having height and weight would clarify the “average/slim” classification. It is definitely better to underestimate and surprise than overestimate and disappoint. At 5’3″ and 115 (size2-4 with visible ab muscles) I had a POT SD say that I was “too fat”, months later a man accused me of being anorexic. Having height/weight listed would help turn subjective into objective.

  400. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey – you are mean; unnecessarily so, and a paranoid compulsive liar with multiple personalities/bipolarism and attachment disorders by your own admission which is some pretty great baggage. Call it not liking women, but hating 3.6 billion people is some pretty substantial baggage.

  401. Skyy80 says:

    Aventura Mall

  402. Lainey says:

    @SexyRockstar that’s funny. I’m tall and I’m a 28/30 (not sure what that is in US sizing) but my hips and ass are 49′ so jeans aren’t my best friend #TheStruggle

  403. Lainey says:

    Oh and @SugarSpicey in regards to your passive-aggressive attempt to claim I have baggage; I have NONE. I make well over 150K a yr so I don’t need a man for bills, my child would NEVER be considered baggage, she is my best friend and my exes were both great men. I NEVER complain about my life. That’s one thing all my friends will say about me and I bitch them out when they complain. I like very Que sera, sera. That’s the one pleasantry of not being an emotionally fickle basket case like most women.

    As far as calling me the “meanest” Just because I dislike and don’t get along with WOMEN doesn’t mean I have those kind of relationships with men. I was raised by my father and quite frankly whiny, entitled b*tches like you annoy me.

    And lastly you are more than welcome to call me crazy. If not being an emotional wreck, not caring enough to argue, not needing reassurance or affirmations, NEEDING my space and NEVER having to worry if I’ll fall in love and wreck your life is “crazy” so be it but every SD that I’ve encountered, after meeting me and knowing about my disposition would take textbook “crazy” over WOMAN “crazy” any day. At least one can be controlled or nearly cured.

  404. SexyRockstar says:

    I was a size 12 not that long ago…but, the baby belly had to go. It was bothering me, but best believe I was still getting sugar dates from that size. But, I am 5’4 so, short and gain 5 pounds, you look like you gained 10…lose 5 pounds…no one notices. HAHAHA.

  405. Lainey says:

    Lol @SexyRockstar that’s like I think there is no way you’re a size 10 but being a fellow member of the booty brigade I understand that pant size is not a reflection of waist size when you have hips and ass. I think submitting one’s measurements would be more suiting than the stupid body type options they have

  406. SexyRockstar says:

    @NiceGirl

    is that is your body in your avatar, there is no way you’re a size 8. You have a tight little body. How tall are you?

  407. Nicegirl says:

    @OnlineNewbie – what is up with the blank profiles anyway??? If you are too lazy to write sow, anything then you shouldn’t be allowed a profile at all. I don’t respond at all to those. It is frustrating.

  408. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Nicegirl – that’s a GREAT idea, lose the descriptors and force a picture standard! That would eliminate some “blank” profiles and force some reality into the equation!

  409. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @kiddingme – descriptors are definitely relative to region. I would consider @Sexy’s size 10 “average”, “athletic”, or “a few extra pounds” depending on how the individual presented, from her avatar, she’s for sure athletic in my mind, someone with a pronounced Muffinn top would be a few extra pounds. In the cases I’ve talked about though, muffin top is a significant under statement, more like a stack of muffin tops!

  410. NIcegirl says:

    @ Elaine,

    Thank you, I have too much T and A to be considered “athletic” and I am a perfect size 8 ;o) which by some standards would not be considered slim. I am curvy and very feminine – there really isn’t a category for that. I don’t even think the body type should be a box to check – Just post a CURRENT pic and you know what the persons body looks like. That seem impossible to do most of the time it seems. I totally agree with SexyRockstar “curvy and love it”!!!!

    I choose average because it will turn away someone who wants a size 2 and someone expecting “average” will be pleasantly surprised ;o)

  411. “Average” seems to be a subjective descriptor.

    Perhaps relative to one’s geographical or cultural averages.

    West Coast average might include slim people, while Midwest average might include folks of the more meaty variety?

    Somehow I feel like average=fat or bad is mostly a U.S. thing.

  412. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    *fat, not fast

  413. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Sexy – size 10 is in no way fast. If someone called you fat in that, they have other issues!

    I also agree that “curvy” should be a classification, but, then again on sites where that is an option…I see it for size 24 and bigger where it isn’t curves, it’s rolls!

  414. Moe El says:

    Where can a congradulate Seeking arrangement for their AVN nomination

  415. SexyRockstar says:

    I wish I can say

    Body Type: I have curve: 34C and Sir Mix A lot loves me.

    I am a size 10. Never been called fat in my life. My body isn’t average….my body is sexy. most girls who say they are “curvy and love it” are just..well, eh. I am all about that bass and no treble. But, thats why I have a full body picture :)

  416. Brittney says:

    Paris :]

  417. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Rebecca & @Elaine –

    Maybe every SB should follow that advice! That way the ratio of SB to SD on the site would drop and the quality of profile might get better?

  418. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @flyR – my only concern with someone asking if I’ll share something with her is that she might be a salt/condiment lover where I like to experience the dish as the chef designed 😉

    But, you’re right, her asking for a taste of mine because of the look or my description of flavor is a sign of a GREAT night ahead!

  419. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Nice – I agree that the definition of “average” or whatever classification you choose is relative and subjective. I’m honest enough to MYSELF to put “a few extra pounds” because I know where I ‘should’ be weight wise. I am athletic in my life, but not the college athlete I once was. I actually include average and a few extra pounds in my search. I MAY have given the profile another look if she listed as a few extra pounds, but in this case, not much more than that because she was a BIG girl and that’s just not MY thing. Honesty with yourself helps build confidence and confidence is sexy as hell!

  420. flyR says:

    I think the perfect age for an SB is somewhere between 19-50

    Ordering food – Super picky (ordering healthy is not picky) in ordering or tasting food is probably not going to be very adventurous. Asks ” If I got the xx would you share it with me …. a very good sign. Dinner resembles the movie Tom Jones – a good evening is ahead. Snappy with the waitress = bad moon rising. Asks if I mind if she has a bite of my x – very good sign she’ll ask for what she wants.

  421. Elaine says:

    @Rebecca

    Yes, but paying one month is more than worth the investment! 😉
    If you are smart, you make a profile that fits your own ideal SD.
    Like this you learn very well who is your competition.

    And if you don’t want to pay, seeing the profiles of who is reacting on yours is already very interesting..

  422. Rebecca says:

    Elaine, don’t I have to pay for a premium account to read those messages though?

  423. Elaine says:

    @Rebecca

    Make a false male profile, a big eye opener and a great marketing tool!

  424. Elaine says:

    @Nicegirl

    Sorry, but your avatar is of not only a SLIM, but even an ATHLETIC bodytype! :-)
    And knowing you are a “woman”, I think a lot of “girls” can only DREAM of such body.
    As counts for @Sugary too btw …

    I feel sorry for those men presuming all women > 35 are unattractive, saggy or fat, and excluding those hot ladies from their searches!

  425. Rebecca says:

    I would like to see more first messages SDs receive..

  426. Nicegirl says:

    @OnlineNewbie… “As I see the profile picture, it is also obvious she has a liberal definition of “average”, and I should reclassify as slim…”

    There was conversation a while ago about this – how to accurately classify your body type. I have met more out of shape “athletic” men since on this site. I suppose they hope you will like them so much via talking and messaging that you will over look it.

    I classified myself as average because I think I look good but I am not an athlete by any stretch of the imagination. However, I see others that are average and they are overweight. I am not slim or athletic, so average it is! I wonder how many opportunities I missed because of this? I know that I don’t want to be with someone that is a total narcissist so I suppose those that don’t want to peruse the “average” beauties of the world will just miss out! lol

  427. Elaine says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD

    Agree!

    As a mistress you are supposed to be fascinating and entertaining company, that is why you get an allowance for.
    If he wants to hear about problems with kids he can get that at home. 😉

    So a smart women would NEVER bother a (pot) SD with their problems.
    Leave your problems at home and be his carefree fantasy, if you want to be succesful as SB or mistress.

    So don’t I ever share personal issues with an SD?
    No, unless he explicitly asks for it and the relationship has reached a level where we both feel comfortable sharing more personal information.

  428. “Quiz: What’s the number one indicator of female arousal?”

    Do tell, Sugary!

  429. “Would you sell a car by noting in the ad that it once left you stranded by the side of the road die to unfixed problems with the alternator?”

    Once saw a car for sale with an ad that read “Did run.” I didn’t buy it.

  430. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Sexy – I kept the meeting because I had already ordered and it was my only chance to eat that day…I had meetings all morning and all afternoon into the evening…I needed some sustenance…and I really love the food at that place!

  431. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @ Sugary – thanks and I think if there were more used car dealers that were that honest people might begin to trust them…and that would be dangerous! hahaha

    It is especially disheartening when the profile was full of positive language and perspective, and then the first or second message is filled with drama and baggage…

  432. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    WOW…and on cue, I get this message from a profile out of the blue:

    “Its clear. You need me I need you. Lets meet :)”

    It’s obvious she has issues with Its vs It’s…It’s obvious she didn’t read MY profile because I’m not asking for a quick romp…As I see the profile picture, it is also obvious she has a liberal definition of “average”, and I should reclassify as slim…

    What a waste of a profile on this site…wish it weren’t more common!

  433. SugarySpicey says:

    Good point Online. It is terribly stupid for any SB to mention negatives before a first meeting, especially kid/ex drama, financial trouble, or relationships gone bad. I find it bizarre that a woman would think airing her dirty laundry to a stranger is a good idea, or a strong negotiating position. Would you sell a car by noting in the ad that it once left you stranded by the side of the road die to unfixed problems with the alternator? An old phrase Mormon missionaries are taught: Give them the milk before the meat (meaning get someone interested in your good points before you start sharing your downsides).

  434. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Elaine – As I get to know someone, I expect there to be some banter, some sharing…especially if there is a lustful connection there. baggage comes in when in an early communication I hear things like, “well if my asshole ex would take the kids I could meet you” or “I need money now because he left me with nothing” or baggage like that. In sugar, all that should be kept outside the arrangement (in my opinion)…talking about how great your kids are can be acceptable, as long as it doesn’t sound like this, “I was planning on taking the kids to the amusement park, but I can’t on my job, so if we meet, can I count on you for $XXX to help me out?” if you can’t afford the amusement park, how could you be planning on taking the kids? and why would I pay for your kids to enjoy an amusement park? that is what I get from the >35 crowd locally…

    the 22-35 crowd locally shares less like that initially…but cannot be trusted to actually show up for a first meet.

    the sub 21 crowd is just creepy locally…way too eager to just “hey, I saw your profile, wanna get together?” or “I’m a princess, can you be my king?”

  435. SexyRockstar says:

    @Online…she sounds like Kesha. HAHAHA.
    Why made you kept the date going if she was such a hot mess? Thats when I would of been like “OMG I just got called for a huge meeting, gotta run”

  436. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Nice, you are right…sorry for the confusion about the initial question, but it was a ways up there in the blog scroll 😉

    You are exactly right, #1 and I have gone out a couple of times since…we’re talking about arrangement details and I couldn’t be happier (so far)…and #2 confirmed my desire to FORCE the first meet to be JUST coffee, not even a drink right after work…

  437. “If I talk for myself, yes, I have an awfull lot of bagage, result of an…ehhhh.. interesting life.
    But I am also intelligent enough to NEVER bother my suitors with the negative parts of that bagage. I entertain them with the positive part!

    It has made me who I am and adds to the fascination factor.
    Too old for bs and drama, old enough to understand what it takes to be the perfect mistress for a succesful man, young enough to still look good.

    And sexy in a selfconfident way that only comes with age, like good wine.”

    Genuinely lovely. Thanks for sharing, Elaine.

  438. Nicegirl says:

    How we all act in general is a reflection of who we are. That includes when we are having a bad day and how we act then. The old saying about first impressions is around for a reason. Like it or not everyone makes assumptions based on what they see, it is human nature.

  439. Nicegirl says:

    @OnlineNewbieSD – This was actually FlyR’s question of the day ;o)

    I am going to say you asked Scenario 1 out again ;o) and wished to god you had never initiated contact with #2 in the first place. Sorry about #2… sounds like an absolutely terrible meeting!

    Honestly, I prefer meeting for a simple coffer for a first meeting because if you feel like it isn’t working for whatever reason you don’t have to sit through and uncomfortable meal wishing it would end already.

  440. Elaine says:

    “You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him”

    -Johann Wolfgang von Goethe-

    So yes, observing how someone treats drivers, doorboys, waiters etc. is very helpfull to understand with what kind of person you have to deal.

  441. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Nice – your question for the day…what does a meal show me about a pot SB?

    Here are a couple of scenarios I’ve experienced:
    1. We meet at a coffee shop near her workplace, during lunch but explicitly NOT for lunch since she only had 30-minutes available…We see each other just inside the door and approach the counter for a drink, when she’s finished ordering, she has cash out for her drink…when I say “I was planning on buying you this for sneaking away to meet me here” she said, “I’m not sure I like you yet, I’ll let you buy me a drink if we meet a second time” — what did I learn about her? she takes care of her bills, she is guarded but open to communicate, she wants things to be “on the level”. Did it make conversation easier, yes. Did it make me want to take her someplace more than a chain restaurant for a second meeting, hell yes.

    2. I meet someone at a local brewpub for lunch…they order a mixed drink to start, they order something from the dinner menu instead of a lunch item, before the food arrives, she’s ordered a second mixed drink…I ordered a beer, not because I wanted one, but I didn’t want her to drink alone (I still had meetings in the afternoon to deal with!)…she pushed me for shots, for a mixed drink, for another beer, as she ordered a beer (remember this is drink three)…when the bill comes, she must have taken a shot or two at the bar when she went to the restroom, because there were two shots on the check…there was almost $50 of liquor at a lunch meeting! Plus, a non-smoking profile had to excuse herself for a smoke outside the restaurant DURING THE MEAL!!! What did that tell me about her? drunk, materialistic, uncontrolled, not worth the 45-minutes I wasted, or the $120 lunch bill after tip.

  442. Nicegirl says:

    @Midwest – That is not the only barometer and it is not fool proof or only for meeting SD’s. Do you meet someone with terrible manners and not make assumptions based on what you see? Or meet someone that does something you find courageous or that shows integrity and have a positive impression? That is where this “light hearted” question of the day is coming from.

  443. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Sugary – In my initial communications with the “women” (>35) I hear more about kid drama, ex drama, financial destitution than with the “girls” (22-35) initially…my problem now is the girls may not talk baggage initially, they save that for the meeting, IF THEY SHOW! I’ve had more first meetings actually show in the woman category, and if she’s held off on the drama/baggage, the conversation has been nice…in the girl category, there hasn’t been as much drama/baggage in initial conversations but watch out during that first meeting!

    Did that explain it?

  444. Elaine says:

    @OnlineNewbie

    In my language there is a saying that goes something like this:
    “You cannot have both, a drunk wife and a full bottle” 😉

    And yes, very curious about the baggage too!

    If I talk for myself, yes, I have an awfull lot of bagage, result of an…ehhhh.. interesting life.
    But I am also intelligent enough to NEVER bother my suitors with the negative parts of that bagage. I entertain them with the positive part!

    It has made me who I am and adds to the fascination factor.
    Too old for bs and drama, old enough to understand what it takes to be the perfect mistress for a succesful man, young enough to still look good.

    And sexy in a selfconfident way that only comes with age, like good wine 😉

  445. Midwestsugardaddy says:

    I love how we try to generalize men from two minutes of ordering a meal at a restaurant. Did you get that right from Cosmo? lol.

    I must say that I find the banter on the blog amusing, but some of you sugar babies have a lot to learn if you are using meal ordering as a barometer of anything.

  446. Josh says:

    “meanest, most-baggage having participant”

    Ouch!

  447. SexyRockstar says:

    Hey Ya’ll! Miss you tons!

    Few things:

    -On the Clit topic: I like my clit, I do not want it pierced, but I DID have my uh…lip pierced 😉
    -I stopped reading/scrolling up, then got bored, read some. I missed a lot
    -I got another tattoo, it’s beautiful. Lainey, you would enjoy it so much! And YouGottaBeKidding, it has something to do with Old Style. This one…shit, I think, is my favorite one.
    -I am officially off the Sugar market. Got back with my former SD. We are going to make it work, god damn it. He moved back here, way closer to me, and is only a two hour drive. We are celebrating by going to a football game on Sunday.

    NOW FOR THE BEST SUGAR BABY THANG.

    I am 25. I’ve known better about being a sugar baby at this age vs any other age. I am more in control of my sexual needs, I understand my body a hell of a lot more, and I appreciate the sugar so much more. I’ve seen some beautiful older women who look better then the girls younger then me who hit the tanning bed all the time. Juusssss saying.

  448. SugarySpicey says:

    Online – I’m curious about the “baggage” claim. I know that I am far more even keel now than when I was 22. Look on the blog, the craziest, meanest, most-baggage having participant regularly posts about being mid-twenties.

    When you mention baggage, what do you mean?

  449. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Elaine – great delineation to clarify the age range…I would actually agree with your definition. Maybe that’s why I am constantly disappointed with my first meets, no-shows and the like…I’ve been looking for a girl when I really want a woman.

    Trouble is, I really don’t like the baggage I’ve experienced from the women on SA…the girls seem to bring less baggage through initial communications, they just fail the face-to-face intellectual test that continues the engagement until we get naked.

  450. Elaine says:

    @Josh
    “the best sugar babies are age 22-30.
    Ouch!”

    Why ouch?
    You will not believe it, but I completely agree with the statement.

    A SUGARBABY > 35 is ridiculous…
    Sugarbabies are girls.
    And some men fancy girls.

    > 35 you are not a girl anymore, you are a woman.
    With hopefully enough self confidence and life experience to become a mistress.
    Mistresses are women.
    And some men fancy women.

    As a platform for mistresses and their suitors doesn’t really excist, both “variaties” can be found on SA.

    So the BEST SB depends very much of what you are searching for.
    My type of suitors would never date girls, some SDs would never date women.

    Obviously, their “best” SB definition would be completely different.

    Different strokes for different folks.. 😉

  451. Nicegirl says:

    @ ygbkm…. LMAO – Thank you for that, very funny and oh so true!

  452. Nicegirl says:

    “question for the day – first meet for a meal what messages do you get from your pot from the way they order/eat”

    If he orders for me without asking first – Shows that he is a control freak that doesn’t want a woman that can think for herself.

    If he is rude or talks down to the wait staff, doesn’t make eye contact with them – He is arrogant, a terrible quality in anyone.

    If he is very finicky about his food – Doesn’t like getting his hands a bit messy or doesn’t like his food to touch – I think this is a sign of how me might be in bed. Mechanical, missionary only, doesn’t like to get dirty.

    Is he willing to try something he has never tried before when ordering – If yes, he will more than likely be adventurous. If no then he is pretty safe and probably won’t be my type.

    Does he like to ask the waiter / waitress what they like on the menu – I love it when people make others feel like their opinion matters. I think this as a subtle way to show you value the opinion of others.

  453. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    @Josh – I agree with the sentiment…

    @Midwest – there are WAY too many variables to distinguish the “best” SB…I’ve met more nutjobs inside your age range than young thirties, as a percentage of conversations etc. On one part I would agree, however, going younger than 22 is a trouble spot to be sure!

  454. Josh says:

    “the best sugar babies are age 22-30.”

    Ouch!

  455. Midwestsugardaddy says:

    Good afternoon sugar family! @SexyRockstar and I decided not to meet due to the distance. Plus, she has some really good prospects in her area. She is going to make some sugar daddy really happy! I really wish I lived in a bigger city.

    I am still in the sugar dating phase in my area. I met with a really good prospect this week. She is very attractive and lots of fun.

    I would say no to a virgin for a sugar relationship and even in real life at my age. I have no desire to teach someone the ins and outs of fun in the sack.

    Sugar babies, lets all try to be a little nicer on the blog. All of you have something to offer to someone. My opinion is that the best sugar babies are age 22-30. I would never say never, I might meet that 32 year old that really rocks my world.

  456. OnlineNewbieSD says:

    I want to chime in on a couple of the things going through the blog…sorry for going missing, but mom’s two broken ankles can distract an only local child!

    As far a what each person gets out of sugar – I have found the enduring sugar relationships were where I FELT I was pleasing her sexually and I was satisfied with the quantity and the quality of our playtime…I believe there should be more than insert penis here to call the sex pleasurable…someone said oral, touching, kissing, etc. – In fact, I believe there is no reason to continue exploring an arrangement if there isn’t some sort of reaction to a kiss. I had one pot where the conversation was going smooth, some discreet eyes and indications of desire…we moved through the neighborhood from restaurant toward a hotel, with the idea we could discuss the details better in private…we paused for a kiss along the route to the hotel and I swear to god I felt I was kissing my best friend, not a potential lover…thus ended the smooth conversation and extinguished the candle of passion.

    Now, for the “virgin” diving into sugar – don’t do it…unless you’re a woman who regularly plays with herself, has been orally active and just saving the vaginal penetration as the “virgin” label. If the SD is “into” you being a virgin, I agree with another poster that he’s probably a creep-o and may be dangerous for you! If, however, you know how to get yourself off, have no problem letting a guy finger and oral you, AND have no problem with orally pleasing a guy you could probably keep an SD happy long enough to feel comfortable for that first penetration…

  457. LadyScarlett says:

    @pointed…certain delusional men who are wannabe fake SDs are also conflicted on the matter of women only wanting them for their fake wealth(that only they possess in their minds, along with an inflated sense of their attractiveness to women oftentimes as well). It is an interesting phenomenon that makes me chuckle, when I see it in a profile, like when watching monkeys at the zoo, although, I rarely see profiles like that? Basically, they cannot get hot women, in real life or other dating sites, so they hear it is easy to play women off SA.

  458. Josh says:

    *Sigh* @PointedShoes

  459. PointedShoes says:

    So, what, so up with these guys who make $50,000 with an equivalent networth messaging me when my profile says that I’m successful? Why would anyone want a broke ass SD? I get that a smart SD isn’t going to accurately list his income to the dollars and cents, but if he’s wealthy pretending to be otherwise ain’t a smart move on a site like this. Unless he’s trying to find a girl who doesn’t care about his money. But that guy would be on the wrong fucking website!

    Also, why are guys who claim to hate gold diggers on this site? I ain’t saying she no gold digga, but she ain’t hanging with no broke ninja. Makes them sound like crazy wife beater material, SKIP!

  460. By the way, I like the idea of “question for the day” :).

  461. “question for the day – first meet for a meal what messages do you get from your pot from the way they order/eat”

    If he’s rude to the server, he’s likely a self-absorbed prick.

    If he doesn’t share his food, he’s likely a self-absorbed prick, and selfish lover.

    If he eats like a pig, he’s likely a self-absorbed pig and lousy piggish lover.

    If he doesn’t tip well (with no notable service issues), he’s likely a self-absorbed, selfish, lousy, stingy, piggish lover. Or perhaps he doesn’t know any better (evidenced with foreigners) in which case I will politely and tactfully share with him the proper etiquette.

    Ain’t no cure for greedy, selfish, stingy pigs though. Next!

  462. SouthernSB says:

    @FlyR-That’s why I always let my neice and my daughter watch Marilyn Monroe movies. I called them “educational” TV.

  463. flyR says:

    question for the day – first meet for a meal what messages do you get from your pot from the way they order/eat

  464. flyR says:

    Apparently some of us are immune to a little humor.

  465. Josh says:

    What kind of an SD calls blatant fraud as “sugar baby success story”?

  466. flyR says:

    SS sage advice for bubbles if we are dealing with a conventional definition of virginity . I assume it is NOT I am a virgin SB, as I have not received any sugar………………………..

  467. flyR says:

    sugar baby success story (yes it’s old )
    Matt was a single guy living at home with his father and working in the family business. He was going to inherit a fortune when his sickly father died, so he decided to find a wife with whom to share his fortune.

    One evening, at an investment meeting, he spotted the most beautiful woman he had ever seen. Her natural beauty took his breath away.

    “I may look like just an ordinary guy,” he said to her, “but in just a few years, my father will die and I will inherit $200 million.”

    Impressed, the woman asked for his business card.

    Three months later, she became his stepmother.

    Women are so much better at financial planning than men.

  468. Josh says:

    @bubblews

    Auntie SugarySpicey has spoken. You don’t need to hear from me no more. 😉

  469. SugarySpicey says:

    *sorry, for naive girls to meet nice guys.

  470. SugarySpicey says:

    Bubbles –

    Losing, giving, and/or shedding one’s virginity in the sugar bowl will not be satisfying to you, or the SD (unless he’s one of those creepy virgin collectors, in which case triple the sentiment that you won’t enjoy it.

    Why and or, unless…

    1. How many orgasms have you had with someone else in the room?
    2. How able are you to eroticise pain (even if your hymen is already broken, if you’re not experienced with being penetrated genitally or digitally, the first handful of times it feels WEIRD).
    3. How long do you expect an SD to wait?
    4. Are you comfortable having sex with a man who, may not be willing to perform oral sex on you because he thinks you’re dirty or not deserving of pleasure, with a man who may lie about his real name, with a man who may hump you and never call you again, with a man who may say he’s going to give you an allowance but end up scamming you, a man who views you as an object and may say unkind things about you’re body because he “bought and paid for it, a man who might be a nice guy but will generally think you’re a shifty lay … because you will be.

    Virgins are NOT good in bed (you’re too inexperienced to be), and SA is not a good place to meet naive guys unless you’re varsity status when it comes to sniffing out creeps and thickening your skin.

    You may find success in the sugarbowl, but your answers to questions 2 and 3 are a better guide for giving you strategy tips. Careful though, the likelihood of you getting scammed, misused, or hurt are 9:1.

  471. flyR says:

    @ Rebecca (Re competition) Consider it a lucky lesson. Girl #2 gets him, at least until he finds girl #3. There’s nothing wrong with saying you need to think about it, but putting it the way he did shows an insensitivity that probably carries through.

  472. Josh says:

    @flyR

    That was pretty nasty comment.

    She’s only as old as the number of decades in your age.

  473. Josh says:

    @Nicegirl,

    Why are you being so nasty?

  474. FlyR says:

    @bubblews – true Virgin and true SB are like honest politicians and Bigfoot Seldom found

    Were I to find a prospect I personally would have zero interest Why. I do not want the responsibility or the drama. I also think it’s something better given in a real relationship for the female’s benefit. That said I did have an acquaintance who decided tha I needed to help rid her of the curse as she was on the eve of her 25th birthday and not In a relationship The fish house punch might have been part of it.

  475. Lainey says:

    @NiceGirl you’re not being so niiiiiicccee. Lol

  476. bubblews says:

    I’m not sure if “nastiest blogger” is meant is a good, okay, or bad thing..

  477. Nicegirl says:

    Bubblews. You are chatting with two of the nastiest bloggers I have ever come in contact with. Proceed with caution…

  478. Nicegirl says:

    Thank you Lainey for proving my point with every post you make. Please continue ;o)

  479. bubblews says:

    But you already mentioned it, dont back up on it now! XD

  480. Josh says:

    Why don’t you ask Auntie SugarySpicey if you should. 😉

  481. bubblews says:

    @Lainey and Josh -too late. I wanna hear it!
    Tell me. Im curious now

  482. Josh says:

    LOL @Lainey

  483. Lainey says:

    Nooooooo @Bubblews you don’t want to hear it. Lol

  484. Josh says:

    Do you really want to hear it sweetheart? 😉

  485. bubblews says:

    @Lainey – It’s a possibility I could, when and if I find one I’m comfortable with and whom I trust enough, yes.
    And my previous arrangements didn’t really last that long cause they were being a liiiiitle bit too pushy towards sex because I wasn’t ready and they wanted it. -shrug-

    @Josh- can you elaborate on what you mean?

  486. Lainey says:

    @Bubblews what were you previous arrangements like? No sex so do you suck a mean one? Lol

  487. Lainey says:

    @Bubblews do you planning losing your virginity to an SD?

  488. Josh says:

    Virgins are royal waste of ejaculation.

  489. bubblews says:

    I only ask because I am one -covers half face-. And, I dunno, I just like to get othr people’s opinions on virgins in the sugaring world.

  490. LadyScarlett says:

    Speaking of virgins, where is Alexis? Alexis would be good for that question 😉

  491. bubblews says:

    Im not new to the sugar world, but i take entertainment from reading the comments.

    now, if you’re an SD, what do you think of SB’s who are literally virgins and want to pursue an arrangement? does that turn you away? how would you approach that?

  492. Lainey says:

    @FB Thanks. I AM a bitch but I’d rather be a bitch with logic than a bitch without. Lol

  493. Lainey says:

    @FB Thanks. I AM a bitch but I’f rather be a bitch with logic than a bitch without. Lol

  494. Lainey says:

    @NiceGirl I don’t continue to tell you I’m smart, I continue to tell you YOU’RE DUMB! There is a slight difference.

  495. Lainey says:

    @NiceGirl I’m the one who jumped on and said I enjoy sex regardless but once again your literacy is below par soooo no surprise there. Maybe I should include pictures with my posts, since you have elementary level reading comprehension. It’ll be like a fun picture book for you :)

  496. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Lainey

    “then why not choose one of them instead of a women that you have to climb mountains, cross rivers and jump out of planes to please just for her to show some enthusiasm and appreciation”

    Don’t forget you have to give such a SB an allowance as well. Why the fuck and SD wants to have such a SB is beyond me. You seem like a bitch but you also get where a lot of SD’s are coming from which puts you in the top 10% of SB’s.

  497. SouthernSB says:

    @Nicegirl-Ohhhh…

  498. Nicegirl says:

    SB.. I think lainey is the only one here struggling in that department.

  499. SouthernSB says:

    @LadyScarlett-Yeah that’s him. Sometimes I can’t keep up. I’m one who still thinks that Brad Pitt and Sean Connery are hot.

  500. Nicegirl says:

    Lainey, How sad that a complete stranger on a blog could instill such emotion from you. If you are really so smart you should have to keep telling me. Not only do I not care how smart you think you are, I don’t care. Truly intelligent people don’t have to keep saying it to make others believe it, that is what stupid people do.. Fyi

  501. LadyScarlett says:

    Yumm, you mean Channing Tatum, right? Oh, he is my type indeed except a little too much of a footballer physique. will remember him for next time I need extra motivation, haha!

  502. SouthernSB says:

    Oh for crying out loud…I have never in my life heard of so many women who are having so many problems having something as simple as an orgasm. I started having the best sex of my life at the age of 25, it just got better and better as I got older. By that time both me and my partners knew what we were doing. Heck, I can get off just by reading porn and not touching myself at all. I can also have an orgasm by a man just playing with my breasts, no need for any vaginal stimulation at all. Just about anyone can give me an orgasm, whether he’s a terrible lover or the most experienced lover on the planet. I am actually starting to feel sorry for everyone involved…SDs having girls that sit around faking orgasms and SBs who have to fantasize about Tatum Channing because their SDs are terrible lovers. Geez, I don’t even have to go through all that “ladies first” stuff and until I came here I had never even heard of it, and I have always had multiple orgasms. I don’t know what I’m missing here, but it must be something of a different time, different place.

  503. LadyScarlett says:

    Would never want to risk any sort of damage to that sacred area….why do men or women pierce those areas…just another fetish, I suppose.

  504. Lainey says:

    Omg the clit surgery part made me clinch. Anyone have theirs pierced or thought about it?

  505. LadyScarlett says:

    Some fun clit facts for everyone (:

    “It Grows

    The clitoris actually grows during a woman’s lifetime. No, it isn’t getting stretched out from too much sexy fun. The growth occurs as a result of hormonal changes in the body. When a girl’s puberty begins, the clitoris will start increasing in size. By the time puberty ends, the clitoris will be about 1.8 times larger. By the time a woman is 32 years old, the clitoris will be almost four times as big as it was at the onset of puberty. It doesn’t end there. After menopause, the clitoris will be about seven times larger than it was at birth. Don’t freak out: this is still a very small area, so the change in size won’t be very noticeable. And hey, it might help to explain why older women often report such hot sex.

    It’s Only There for the Sex

    A woman’s body includes a number of super-hot erogenous zones, but you might say many of those are sort of, well, incidental. Not the clit. It’s there for fun. Yup, that’s right. The clitoris is the only part of the body designed solely for pleasure. So, while other body parts used for sexual pleasure have at least one other purpose to them, your clit is just there to get you off.

    It’s Exquisitely Sensitive

    The clitoris contains at least 8,000 sensory nerve endings. To put that into perspective, the penis has about 4,000. That makes this tiny area the most sensitive part of a woman’s erogenous zone. And while the clitoris is quite small, its powerful sensations can spread across a woman’s pelvic area by affecting 15,000 other nerve endings.

    It’s Bigger Than You Think

    Did you know that Marie Bonaparte—great-grandniece to the Napoleon Bonaparte— had her clitoris surgically moved? Not removed (thank goodness), but moved. Closer to her vagina, that is. The reason was simple. Like many women, she couldn’t orgasm from vaginal sex. At the time there was—and still is—evidence that if the space between the clitoris and vaginal opening is less than an inch, a woman is more likely to be able to orgasm through penetrative sex alone.

    The sad part, for Bonaparte at least, is that the surgery didn’t work.

    Here’s what she didn’t know: Only one quarter of the clitoris is visible. The rest of it is inside the body, which means this organ can’t really be picked up and moved. The clitoris is made up of many different parts, including the clitoral head, the hood the clitoral shaft, the urethral sponge, erectile tissue, glands, vestibular bulbs and the crura (or the clitoral legs). Only the clitoral head and the hood are located outside the body.

    It’s a Lot Like a Penis

    Yeah, there’s the whole “men are from Mars, women are from Venus” camp, but in reality, men and women are a lot more alike than most of us realize. Or, at least we start out that way. In fact, all babies, upon conception, have the exact same genital tissue. At about 12 weeks, each baby’s genitalia begin to differentiate into a penis or labia. So, in a sense, the clitoris and penis are the same materials put together in a different way. The clitoris has a glans, a foreskin (also known as the hood), erectile tissue and a teeny-tiny shaft. It even swells when it’s aroused! Good thing it’s mostly hidden—it saves the ladies from having to measure and compare with their friends …

  506. Lainey says:

    Lol @SugarSpicey it was a yes or no question

  507. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey I take the same approach. If I don’t get the tingle during our first/second meet then it’s probably not going to work out. Lol

  508. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey –

    Anterior is the front, the antecedent (the clitoral hood)
    Posterior is the back (the G-Spot)

    Think of the vagina and surrounding areas as an inverted penis, since they really are the same recipe, formed differently in the womb.

    The clitoral hood is the foreskin, the clitoris is the glans penis (the head), the vagina is the shaft. The G-spot is that sensitive space just under the head of the penis that loves to be licked.

  509. Nicegirl says:

    Ok Lainey… Whatever you say genius. I hope you vagina doesn’t follow you”statistics”… Actually that would explain your anger issues

  510. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey – true, it means sexual desire and satisfaction increase with age.

  511. SugarySpicey says:

    My approach: choose an SD you genuinely want to fuck, and enjoy fucking. Occasionally even a good lover will deliver a subpar performance, so avoid starting with a poor base handicap.

  512. Lainey says:

    @Rebecca work on not being a conniving trollop and we’ll meet each other halfway on our issues :)

  513. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey are anterior and posterior two different locations? Its a yes or no question

    And it IS an age thing. I didn’t day all that extra stuff you added so again a woman pulling shit out of thin air but the fact that you are using age statistics and anatomy means what? THAT IS AN AGE THING!

  514. Lainey says:

    @NiceGirl Im angry and you’re stupid. Guess we both have our assumptions. #Shrug

  515. Rebecca says:

    Lainey, work on the anger issues and stop lashing out at people. You’re being childish.

  516. SugarySpicey says:

    Why the fuck does auto correct keep changing the word orgasm?! It will not accept that word. Maybe Softi programmed it?

  517. Rebecca says:

    Nicegirl, thank you. I wasn’t sure if I was being unreasonable or not. I felt like he was manipulating me. I don’t expect my SDs to be truly monogamous, but it is not something that is talked about. I never bring up possible SDs to them lol and if I am accused of that by a SD in a joking way, the SD gets visibly irritated, so clearly it irritates both sexes. My friends were shocked he admitted it also.

  518. Nicegirl says:

    Lainey, you talk a big game but I suspect you are struggling in life which is why you are so angry. poor girl… boo hoo for you.

    Understanding and agreeing are two different things.

  519. Lainey says:

    Chit chat chit chat. Sure it’ll be great material for your book. He’s one lucky guy for not giving you his identification. Smart cookie!

  520. SugarySpicey says:

    Physiologically speaking, you’re wrong Lainey. The vaginal organ and clip oral orgasm are both created by the same thing, stimulation of the clitoral nerve endings either directly, or indirectly through stimulation of the posterior clitoral interior nerve network (aka G-spot) the sensation may “feel” different for some women, but the physiology is the same.

    Additionally, you’re wrong about your age-related sexual assumptions. In their thirties women experience a hormone balancing that increases testosterone/estrogen balance, leading to increased sexual desire and enjoyment. You are delusional thinking women enjoy sex more at 25 than 35, or in thinking only women under 30 like to fuck. Women who like to fuck like to fuck. The “bells and whistles” only become relevant when the guy is a shifty lay.

    And yes, a smart SB always leaves her SD feeling like a sexual dynamo, but if he finishes in 2 minutes flat, or treats her vagina like a drawbridge to be battered, even the best actress isn’t believable.

    Though you’re inconsistent here, last week you would have said that having sex that one enjoys due to generosity makes a woman a prostitute. Choose one “persona” and stick with it.

  521. Nicegirl says:

    Rebecca, That is terrible! Honestly just mentioning that you are “competing” and he would decide the winner in 2 days is completely disrespectful. That is something he should have kept to himself. You dodged a bullet ;o) I sense that he was a selfish lover, lol

  522. Lainey says:

    @NiceGirl the fact that you totally didn’t understand my post shows that your intelligence level is too low to even be a part of this conversation.

  523. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey I don’t think that’s what @Josh or @FB are doing I think they are just saying; because there are women out there who genuinely like sex regardless or who don’t really care as long as their SD is doing what he should OUTSIDE The bedroom, then why not choose one of them instead of a women that you have to climb mountains, cross rivers and jump out of planes to please just for her to show some enthusiasm and appreciation

  524. Rebecca says:

    If any SBs are interested in the story, I had a SA date last night. He and I emailed for a couple weeks. The emails were dull and short. He’d email me every couple of days saying how excited he was to see me, but never talked about anything else. He was very sweet regardless. I figured we would have better conversations in person. We met for drinks (literally water) and all my jokes fell flat. He didn’t grasp sarcasm and he wasn’t very playful. He is British and made sure to mention more than once he is “Oxford educated”, so I’m not that surprised. Our conversation was 10% about ourselves/life, 50% complimenting me, 40% about the arrangement. He asked to talk more in his hotel room. He went more in depth about the arrangement and traveling together. It all sounded great. I asked if he could please verify his identity like he said he would. He said he couldn’t because he had another date tomorrow morning and would decide who “won” in 2 days. If he said no to me, I could retaliate by contacting his boss. Uhhh ok. I don’t need to know that. I was instantly turned off and figured he told me to try and make me act competitively. He could have just said he’d give me his information in next 2 days while he decides. After that awkward conversation, he sat on the bed and asked if I would kiss him for “2 minutes”!! I said, “Uhhh no, we aren’t in an arrangement and this is the first date anyways.” He had a dinner with clients, so I left. It was obvious we had no connection, so that was sad. It would have been a dream arrangement otherwise. Thankfully, he did not kill me. I am disappointed that I lost $40+ in taxi/train money and hours on a train for an awkward conversation over a drink of water. Typically the SDs will comp me, but he didn’t offer. I have a date with someone else on Monday. I have higher hopes with him.

  525. Nicegirl says:

    You are an IDIOT! How would you know how MY vagina works? I know it very well and so does the man I sleep with. SO, if I want to give my thoughts then I will. If you don’t like it because my reality doesn’t fit your science then you can fuck off!

  526. Lainey says:

    @NiceGirl that fact that you even asked that question leads me to believe you know nothing about your own vagina or simply have “Barbie parts.

    On another note; stop telling us what you “think”, especially when you’re putting your “thoughts” up against science. Thinking is clearly not your strong suit. #Shhhhh

  527. SugarySpicey says:

    Josh – instead of discussing the actual point, your assertion that women don’t like sex, you’re making nonsense either/or scenarios that dismiss female sexual satisfaction as a ridiculous entitlement complex rather than responding to issue.

    The question stands: have you ever had a sexual relationship with a woman who genuinely enjoyed, craved, wanted, needed, lusted for or frequently initiated sex?

  528. Nicegirl says:

    Can I ask if two people are thoroughly enjoying one another and pleasing each other then why does it matter if the orgasm is clitoral, vaginal or stimulated some other way? Really isn’t it simply about pleasing one another? I don’t get why we care about focusing on women that aren’t capable of having a vaginal orgasm (which I think they are if they are with the right partner). More men should have FlyR’s outlook on sex/relationships – If they did they might not feel so much sabotage in their lives.

  529. Josh says:

    @flyR

    Your posts over months and today’s confession lead me to believe that you must have done some horrible things to women and now you are trying to overcompensate due to guilt.

    You might want to hire a Jungian mental health care expert.

  530. Lainey says:

    @FlyR for a man spewing on about pleasure you would know a clitoral and vaginal orgasm are two VERY different things and two VERY different sensations, from two DIFFERENT places. Sooooo that statistic remains valid!

  531. Lainey says:

    @FlyR for a man spewing on about pleasure you would know a clitoral and vaginal orgasm or two VERY different things and two VERY different sensations, from two DIFFERENT places. Sooooo that statistic remains valid!

  532. flyR says:

    Perhaps it’s my upbringing in the pre libbie age – when men took responsibility for their partners, companions, lovers, etc. Ladies first was not a long forgotten concept, destroyed by men and women alike.

    A tidbit of history NOW was funded by the feds under Carter as a democratic party support group.

    BACK TO THE TOPIC AT HAND ARE SB’S ENTITLED TO GOOD SEX?

    Based on several decades of diligent research

    *Most men, including me are sensual jerks for their first 10 years of sex UNLESS they have a female great coach . They are like Ferrari drivers who don’t know how to shift out of first gear. If their female partners happen to have an orgasm along the way it is more by accident than deliberate action.

    The often quoted stat the 60% of females are incapable of vaginal O’s neglects an important assumption, that the female has not just experiences a 5 minute orally induced orgasm.

    I don’t expect to convert any and I am not sure I would want to convert them. But the universality of their declarations is not reflective of the potential available to the SD who selects SB’s based partially on their ability to be a partner rather than a temporary servant.

    Lots of folks

  533. Lainey says:

    To add to that point of “earning it”, if this is a SD/SB relationship, didn’t he “earn” a bit of enthusiasm when he cashed you out. Women seem to want it all. It is a form of entitlement.

  534. Josh says:

    @Lainey, I understood FB’s point the same way you did.

    @Elaine, where did the confusion crept in from dear?

  535. Lainey says:

    I know you guys hate when I bring up the age thing but this is DEFINITELY an age thing. Younger women can and will enjoy sex without all these added stipulations. Older women need more. And it’s not about settling so don’t turn it into that, as if we aren’t sexually aware. It’s just that we typically genuinely enjoy sex and are wild and crazy because we ARE wild and crazy not because he earned it!

  536. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    At least in the US, it is legally risky to deal with escorts. However those who are looking for escorts, are finding enough of right here at SA.

  537. Lainey says:

    @Elaine the point is he CAN get the real thing (not faking) without having a picky, sexually pretentious SB. Some women like sex for what sex is and don’t need the extra accoutrements and will genuinely enjoy sex with their SD for the simple fact that he is good to them OUTSIDE of the bedroom.

  538. Elaine says:

    @FB

    Why loosing all this time searching for this smart unicorn, if it could be so simple (and more satisfying) for both? 😉

    I cannot immagine you would not have much more sexual fun with an SB that genuinly enjoys sex with you.

    She can be a good actress, but why settle for fake when you can have the real thing?
    I mean, why would you want a SB and no go to escorts in that case?
    What would make the difference, would the sex be different?
    To me it seems less hussle for you, and probably even cheaper?

    Just trying to understand, no offend.

  539. Josh says:

    *lovely SugarySpicey

  540. Josh says:

    It took close to 48 hours for our lovel SugarySpicey to fess up that she was carrying on the wrong argument. Please allow me to use more specific language.

    I am sure that some women are “horny as hell” all their lives, some women have “regular” appetite for intercourse, but most women don’t give a shit about intercourse EXCEPT as a tool to get from point A to point B in life.

    Intercourse is woman’s discretionary “want” and men’s predominant “need.” THAT creates a multi-trillion dollar economy for women’s welfare on a global scale.

    If men just cared to have intercourse to get women pregnant few times in their lives, most women will live economically miserable lives.

  541. FatB'StardSA says:

    ” Unless you’re partial to having a woman lie there like a dead fish giving the occasional courtesy moan.”

    I have a better solution for the SD’s. If your SB is on the bed (or kitchen counter or bondage swing) like a dead fish then find another SB, there are many out there. Repeat this process until you find a SB smart enough to realize that she is getting an allowance to make the SD happy and should act accordingly.

  542. Sun Lighted says:

    Let the shopping sprees begin!!!

  543. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey

    Sweetheart, do you mind explaining EXACTLY HOW I am going in circles? 😉

  544. SugarySpicey says:

    *orgasm

  545. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey – I simplified the concept to focus on or gas because Josh is too simple to understand the idea of enjoying sensuality without orgasm, and to point out the differences in the male/female experience. Additionally, Sex was used generally to refer to sensual play, not intercourse.

  546. Lainey says:

    If I say vaginal orgasm in several post and then shorten it to “orgasm” then it is inferred that I am still speaking of the SAME thing. Does everything need to be done layman when posting on this blog for people not to misconstrue one’s words?

  547. Lainey says:

    @Elaine I very clearly stated in several of my posts that I was speaking about the vaginal orgasm. Why is it that it can be written in plain sight and a woman will STILL try to flip it just to have something to debate? I was AGREEING with you. Faaaawwwwwkkkk! #WomensLogic

  548. Elaine says:

    @ Sugary

    “Unless you’re partial to having a woman lie there like a dead fish giving the occasional courtesy moan.”

    Well said, and I really don’t understand men that would settle for such sorry sex!
    What is more arousing as a women jumping on you and nearly ripping your clothes of BECAUSE SHE WANTS YOU SO BAD!

  549. Elaine says:

    @ Lainey
    “on the orgasm took it to a position of blaming the man for something he actually has NO control over in 60%+”

    Ho, wait, you are saying that in 60% of the orgasms the man has NO control over it??
    First, the vaginal orgasm is quite a rare phenomenon only very few women experience (by no way 60%!) , but ok, let’s say here the man has no direct control over.

    But as a woman, you must know that our biggest trigger is being mentally aroused and that the (rare) vaginal orgasm is only one of the different ways for a woman to orgasm.

    So yes, the role of the man is VERY important and he has DIRECT influence on the female orgasm.

    It takes two to tango, always!

  550. Lainey says:

    @Josh love the pizza analogy. You’re absolutely right by the way.

  551. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey do all the men you are currently fucking get that enthusiasm or is that reserved just for him and they get the lackluster remnants?

  552. Lainey says:

    Ya @Elaine I’m aware of all that. It was just that @SugarSpiceys focus on the orgasm took it to a position of blaming the man for something he actually has NO control over in 60%+.. that’s why I stated instead the that the mention of foreplay or additive of passion would have been a more accurate argument.

  553. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey

    I guess your man owes me a “thank you” then 😉

    By the way, why are you with this man? I mean, what’s in it for you to be with this man and give him pleasures of your golden pussy?

    Is he a project or an SD or a pseudo SD?

  554. SugarySpicey says:

    Just last night I initiated sex, with an enthusiastic blowjob, climbed on top to ride in a position I knew would be effective, and as I was having a completely average hump I must have said, “God, I love your c*ck” to it’s equivalent at least three different times, and meant it. Why be generous with a woman AND give her good sex? EASY! The more she enjoys sex with you, the better the experience you’ll have. Unless you’re partial to having a woman lie there like a dead fish giving the occasional courtesy moan.

  555. SugarySpicey says:

    Josh – You, sir, are the one going in circles. Your reference to girl#2 is a nonsense strawman. Unless you think expecting sex (used generally, not limited tomissionary-style penetration) to be physically comfortable and mutually enjoyable to be equivalent to requiring all those ridiculous metaphors you used.

    If you do, in fact, believe that it is “entitled” for a woman to expect that her sexual partner doesn’t injure her (in an unpleasant way) and gives a modicum of attention to her enjoyment, then naturally the women who have sex with you would barely tolerate the invasion and would come across as disliking sex. But, what they really dislike is sex with you.

  556. Elaine says:

    Yes Josh, even the most delightful pizza starts it’s life as a bunch of raw ingredients! 😉

  557. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    “raw”

    Really? 😉

  558. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    I LOVE pizza, all sorts, and I don’t even mind what vegetables, cheese tomatoes or meat is on it, but you don’t mind if I don’t fancy it raw, but nice baked and warm from the oven instead?
    Does that sound entitled or too much?

    I am sure that even girl#1 wants her pizza looking and tasting and warm like a real tasty pizza, no?
    She would at least want to recognize the thing on her plate for being a pizza.
    Does she now sounds picky, like girl#2 ?

    There is a difference between eating pizza because you are just very hungry and want to fill your stomach, or because the thing just looks, smells and tastes too irresistable…

  559. Nicegirl says:

    I just realized I had the assumption sex was the under lying comparison. I may have truly been a question of pizza lovers?

  560. Nicegirl says:

    Comparing eating pizza (which has no feelings, emotion, needs or desires) with having sex with a person seems… Interesting

  561. Josh says:

    I wrote the above as an attempt to differentiate “cause” from “effect”. The concept of “cause and effect” is TOTALLY, I mean COMPLETELY, lost on some women, and they cannot comprehend what “going in circles” mean. 😉

  562. Josh says:

    Girl #1: I love pizza. Thin crust, hand tossed, deep dish, meat, chicken, veggies, red sauce, white sauce, pizza shop, Walmart…bring it on. Half of my food budget is dedicated to pizza.

    Girl #2: I love pizza. Thin crust, chicken, white sauce, must be from X pizza chain, and be paid by a man who serves it to me lovingly and actually must put it in my mouth, each bite of it. I will chew it as a favor to him. He must read NYT Best Seller “How to Enjoy Stale Pizza After Your Woman is Hungry No More.”

    Which of the two girls LOVES pizza? 😉

  563. FatB'StardSA says:

    @flyR

    “I am not asserting that it is the best sex of her life but rather that it very good sex. I’m paying for a number of reasons – I am not assuming the obligations of a normal relationship, I am older and the cost is actually lower than most conventional relationships.”

    Then

    2) You are as delusional when fucking as when you are posting.

    is your answer.

  564. Nicegirl says:

    Good sex doesn’t exclusively mean vaginal sex. Being creative, uninhibited, using hands, mouth and of course leading to actual intercourse. The best lovers I have had have given me multiple orgasms before even fucking me. That is the SD that you always want to satisfy. A lover like that will bring out your sensuality, make you feel sexy, desired and make you want to please your partner in every way. For me that is great sex…. Equally wanting to please each other.

  565. Elaine says:

    @ Lainey

    Women like “likeable” sex.
    Yes.
    Even if not ALWAYS followed by an orgasm.
    Yes.

    But don’t come and tell women like ANY kind, or BAD sex, regardless.
    It has not persè always have to end in an orgasm.
    But to enjoy it, it must at least be satisfying in some way!

    Let’s turn it around, how many men would be craving for sex if they never reached an orgasm doing it?

  566. Lainey says:

    I could understand if you talked about foreplay or doing things the way you like it from time to time, but making it all about the orgasm during sex is where you logic falls apart because you can’t argue opinion against numbers.

  567. Lainey says:

    Women lie, men lie, NUMBERS DON’T LIE! With that said over 60% of women do NOT have vaginal orgasms but a woman who genuinely “likes sex”, likes sex REGARDLESS. I’m walking proof of that so I can say that the BS @SugarSpicey is using to defend women against Joshs claim is just that, BS!

  568. Elaine says:

    @flyR

    “My guess is that 90% of the SB here would offer similar advice.”

    I do!

    But I think there is a difference between “normal” relationships and “sugar”.
    To start with a “normal” relationship, a woman will decline sex for 2 main reasons:
    1. He doesn’t arouse her, because he just is a bad/unskilled/undedicated sexpartner. So no “reward” for her in the form of an orgasm.
    2. There is other problems in the relationship. A woman simply doesn’t get physically aroused when her head is full of problems/thoughts.

    The first reason is quite easy to solve. When both, men and women make the effort of learning how to best satisfy their partner, sex quality AND quantity will raise significally.
    Unfortunally the second reality is much tougher, a man can be the best technical lover in the world, with a head full of problems, a woman simply doesn’t get in the mood.

    In a sugar relationship, let’s face it, we deal with different realities.
    1. He doesn’t arouse her, because he just is a bad/unskilled/undedicated sexpartner.
    Her reward is an allowance or gifts. Up to the SB to decide if that’s enough for her. If it is, then just be a good actress when with him and find someone else for the sexual satisfaction.
    2. Forget about this reason, in sugar both are supposed to leave their problems at home. (And the allowance will probably help solving most problems…;-) )

    So far, so good.
    So why should any SD be concerned about the sexual satisfaction of his SB as long as he provides an allowance?
    This is a question that comes up every now and then by some blog SDs.

    Well, very simple.
    Because it will make the big difference between GREAT or MEDIOCRE sex!
    Because a skilled and dedicated lover will get both: quality AND quantity.
    Because a good lover will not be so easily replaced.

    Up to you guys, when you decide to settle for less, and get the doggybag of someone elses copious dinner … 😉

  569. flyR says:

    FB ( who might be josh in drag)

    That’s a fair question

    Actually it was Dick Morris (then Clinton confidant) who responded to a reporters accusatory question – do you really pay women $300/hour to have sex . Morris – absolutely NOT I pay then $300 to leave after we are done.

    But as to the larger question. There are many options in sugar . I prefer women who are interesting, intelligent and working hard to achieve goals. I disdain those looking for funds to but shoes, overpriced accessories, etc. The whole , “you are what you buy” gang. I’m more concerned about the brain gap than the thigh gap but appreciate sensual and beauty. In short , I am not looking for a hooker disguised as an SB.

    I pick women (across a wide age range) whom I genuinely like and with whom I believe I will have a mutually satisfying sensual relationship. It’s just one of many strategies available to participants in the sugar bowl but it the one which works best for me.

    I am not asserting that it is the best sex of her life but rather that it very good sex. I’m paying for a number of reasons – I am not assuming the obligations of a normal relationship, I am older and the cost is actually lower than most conventional relationships.

    I am the beneficiary of those who see SB’s as spermdumpsters to be approached only if fully garbed in Ebola like protection and treated like an inferior race. For that I thank you .

  570. FatB'StardSA says:

    @flyR

    Why are you paying her if you are giving her the best sex of her life? Is it because

    1) You are Charlie Sheen and you pay for your SB to leave afterwards.
    2) You are as delusional when fucking as when you are posting.

  571. flyR says:

    @nicegirl “If a man lives his life” lots of wisdom

  572. flyR says:

    @ SS ““She Comes First from Amazon ””

    I think SS advice on the topic is priceless in the wisdom and approach. My guess is that 90% of the SB here would offer similar advice. However, I thought the author of “She Comes First” was a little arrogant in that his way was the only way.

    But SS is offering you the key to the promised land. The SB who walks through your front door knowing that she’s going to have another great O or two or three is a very different animal from the SB who feels she is being used as an unappreciated spermdumpster.

    You might read She Comes First as a primer but then let your mind go fee, watch some girl porn (the ladies might make some recommendations) and most important of all maintain situational awareness.

    I am a firm believer that the most important 10 minutes of the sugar relationship are those following the first button undone. A job well started is half finished.

    Will all SB’s respond to this treatment – no but most will

  573. FatB'StardSA says:

    @PriceySpicey

    “Quiz: What’s the number one indicator of female arousal?”

    When she starts online shopping for shoes?

  574. FatB'StardSA says:

    A ex-SB of mine openly talked about faking orgasms with a SD. The implication that the SD was me was really obvious. I have no idea why she did this. All her comments did was get on my nerves, not because of my ego was hurt, but because she assumed I should actually care. She was getting an allowance which should have been enough for her. She could have had the best of both worlds: a SD helping to support her and a fuck buddy who cared about her orgasm. A perfect example of a woman sabotaging a relationship.

  575. SugarySpicey says:

    Josh – I ask that question in earnestness, not as an insult. If you’ve never experienced a woman who’s hot for your c*ck, either you’re picking poorly, or you need a few seine lessons. Go to Amazon and pick up “She Comes First”, and seriously evaluate what these sex-witholding women offer you that keeps drawing you to them. The vast majority of women I know initiate sex as much, or more, than their partners.

  576. Lainey says:

    @NiceGirl yea I antagonized you by never even noticing your existence. Lmao. Sounds about right.

  577. SugarySpicey says:

    Quiz: What’s the number one indicator of female arousal?

  578. SugarySpicey says:

    Josh –

    Have you really never once, in your entire lufe, had a relationship with a woman who initiated sex more often than you did?

    You proved my point in debating all the ways women should go about getting better sex, which accepted the premise that women want sex, but just find that men who can perform well don’t always bring their A game, and many men aren’t even capable of an occasional quality lap around the O.

    But, if you’ve never once had a relationship with a woman who frequently initiated sex, then I could see why you would be disinclined to accept that women who get laid right, and often, by a man who knows what he’s doing crave/need/desire/lust/obsess over sex as much, if not more, than men – because a well-laid woman gets the orgasm AND the addictive oxytocin high.

  579. Nicegirl says:

    If a man lives his life believing that women hate sex or simply have no interest in sex then I would assume that man has never really satisfied a woman.

  580. Nicegirl says:

    @Lainey… Really??? You seem to think I care what your opinion is of ME? You are extremely antagonistic, arrogant and IGNORANT – I do not need to prove anything to you. Your ignorant blog posts speak loud and clear for themselves. Thank you very much!

    I won’t respond to another of your “intellectual rants”

  581. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey

    I am basically at lost as to how I “proved your premise”…

    – I said that women don’t give a shit about sex.

    – You said that women don’t give a shit about sex because X, Y and Z.

    So who is proving whose premise? *scratching head*

  582. SugarySpicey says:

    …and learn to paddle the canoe, you’d get significantly more quantity and quality.

  583. SugarySpicey says:

    Josh, in debating my points you proved my premise: it isn’t that women don’t want, crave, and need good sex. It’s just that all too often they only get mediocre to poor sex. If men would step up their game they’d get quantity and quality, which are not mutually exclusive.

    This thing you insist on calling sabotage is actually disappointment. Women who are happy, well laid, and well treated are devoted. They “sabotage” aka demanding to be treated better, when those three elements are missing, or when the guy who does those three things can’t get his shirt together.

    Maybe you just need to increase the class of women you’re associating with. Maybe you’re a “sabotage magnet.”

  584. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey

    “Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t make it illogical”

    I “understand” it alright. Please allow me to respond.

    “This idea that only men have strong secular urges is false thinking based on likelihood of satisfaction. If men only had a 40% chance of ejaculating every time they had sex, they would be in a very different position.”

    Fair enough. If women are having orgasm only 40% of the times, then get out of the hooking up with men business. Why hook up with men when 60% of the times you will end up with unsatisfactory sex? Now if you DO DECIDE to hook up with men for X, Y or Z reason, then hold your end of the bargain. Men want QUANTITY, not QUALITY. Yes it would be horrible just to get quantity all the time. So occasional quality works for most men along with quantity.

    “It’s some men’s poor sexual performance that leads to women declining sex – she is more likely to be left feeling frustrated and disappointed than satisfied.”

    Again, put a condition of satisfactory sex as precondition to hooking up.

    “Women who are fortunate enough to have skilled sexual partners are far less likely to decline;”

    That’s your guess. Women will sabotage anything including the best thing going.

    “whereas tolerating awkward, rough, painful groping from a man who is generally not kind, sweet, or charming is far from desirable.”

    Get out of the relationship stating exactly that. I have no problem with women who stay man-free. It is the insistence of hooking up with men and then screwing around that I have problem with.

    I may actually respect those women more who stick to their guns and not mess with a specie that is useless 60% of the times.

  585. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey

    “In a conversation with Marianne Schnall, founder of Feminist.com, Poehler recalled her past statements on the subject of celebrities rejectingthe “feminist” label publicly: “That’s like someone being like, ‘I don’t really believe in cars, but I drive one every day and I love that it gets me places and makes life so much easier and faster and I don’t know what I would do without it,”
    – Amy Poehler”

    Something as below is more like it, dear? 😉

    “I don’t really believe in men, but I get one hooked up if and when I can. I love the factt hat doing so gets me places and makes life so much easier and faster and I don’t know what I would do without men”
    – Josh Guru referring to feminists

  586. Lainey says:

    @NiceGirl you’re another person I have yet to see post something intelligent so I’d rather not debate with someone with a limited vocabulary and poor comprehension.

    I will, however, ask this; are you certain you want to stand behind your claim that I stated or declared “ALL” in reference to any of my opinions?

  587. Nicegirl says:

    @ Lainey

    I hardly think my post was starting controversy. It looks as if you are doing just fine on your own. It is a FACE that you wrote “ALL AMERICANS”. Now if I wrote something like “ALL (put any race other than American here)” neglected their kids and were prostitutes, well then that would make me just plain ignorant now wouldn’t it? That is also called generalizing a race.

  588. Carmen says:

    I think it depends, in regards to stay at home mothers. There are the moms who never really had any career aspirations, and only wanted to be stay at home mons. With that being said, they might still be interesting or fun company, if they have interests outside of their children. Interesting people can still be interesting, even without a career. Then, you have the stay at home mothers who ONLY talk about their children, and have nothing else, or choose nothing else outside of that. I have friends who had good careers, are fun company, but got married and now have small children, so chose to stay home with them. They are still independent and have hobbies/interests outside of their kids. One makes $100,000 a year selling her art, on the side. She does have a husband with good contacts for the art, but she had her own contacts before marriage, too. She is a stay at home mother, but also a creative artist who finds time to make money of her own.

  589. Elaine says:

    @Lainey

    “@Elaine that’d be great if that’s truly what the feminist attitude was”
    It is what MY feminist attitude is.

    “it was that at one point waaaayy back when women just wanted to be equal ….”
    Yes, well as you repeatedly stated; I am a waaaayy back granny.
    So maybe that is not too bad after all! :-)

    “That choosing to birth and devote themselves to their families is below them and frequently look down on women that have taken that path.”
    Hmmm, question to self: do I look down at “stay at home mums”…?
    I am not sure…difficult question…

    I know I have absolutely nothing with them in common, find them often not the most interesting conversation partners, and think they position themselves in a very vulnerable position, knowing that a big part of marriages will fail.
    Maybe in these cases alimony is even justified…I dunno…

    Their lives are so far apart from mine, I find it very hard to understand them, fully depending on a man to take care of them and their children, that is something for sure I never could.

  590. Carmen says:

    Oh, I will be so heart broken! Lol!

  591. Noir says:

    Woodfield and Michigan Ave is sufficient enough.

  592. Lainey says:

    @Carmen you have yet to say one intelligent non-catty comment since entering the blog. And all of them have been directed towards me. You are nothing but a fan in my eyes, the Philadelphia version of one to be specific. At least @SugarSpicey adds a bit of knowledge to her posts before going for a dig. Your the scum on the bottom of my female blogger totem pole. Now that you’re aware where you stand please excuse me if I ignore you posts from here on out.

  593. valentina says:

    i live in the kop area and I LOVE THE MALL…everythiing you can think of they usually have two of.

  594. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey The reason I’ve recently found no problem debating with @SouthernSB and @Elaine is because they don’t take on the approach that they have to defend EVERY woman. They recognize that though it may not apply to them or even others that it does apply to some and they respond with that approach. Do we really have to be politically correct and EVERY time we voice an opinion clarify “well not everyone”? If that is the case than I fear that you are either too dense or just enjoy creating drama where it does not exist

  595. Carmen says:

    @sugaryspicey, how many Ivy leaguers do you know that had young children while at University, and need to be on SA, and on blog only showing their tits because that is probably all they have to offer? The lie is pretty obvious but hilarious all the same, lol!

  596. Carmen says:

    ” These are the same women who will eventually give birth and have a ______ (insert any foreign race here) nanny performing the duties she should. Americans outsource everything, INCLUDING their parenting.”

    Where do you outsource your child, while you are out sugaring, Lainey? Lol! Your holier than thou attitude really is a bore at best- not to mention extremely hypocritical. who are YOU to lecture women on blog about their choices, feminism or their ‘promiscuity’ much less society as a whole, when you are on seeking arrangement, brag about having sexual arrangements and banging married men. Truth!

  597. SouthernSB says:

    @Lainey-I’m not averse to taking responsiblity for the actions of my generation. We really should have worked more on teaching your generation how to be able to stick up for yourselves and weather the hard times and less on making sure you had good self-esteem. BTW, did you know that there was no such thing as self-esteem when I was growing up and as far as I know, no one was committing suicide and mass shootings over being bullied in school: Of course, back then the police wouldn’t be called over something as normal as a schoolyard fight. We would fight, get up and in the end usually either become friends with the bully or at least get a grudging respect for standing up for ourselves.

  598. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey, you can post, so I know you can read, you just choose not to. My comment was that you’re generalizing an entire culture, all American women. You’re saying that 150+/- million women are all the same.

    Not where I live. All of the women in my social network are stay at home mom’s. So already your generalization breaks. Then comes the fact that you expose your own whopper of a lie by making it clear you have NOT been exposed to the general education curricula taught at Ivy League schools, or you would know that “feminism” is not ONE thing. It is many, many different things. Your characterization is like referring to sex as only man/woman/missionary and then making assertions about how sex (according to that narrow definition) is, or is not, enjoyable for 150 million women.

  599. Lainey says:

    Thank you @SouthernSB and I’ve always said and admitted that my generation is the pits lol

  600. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey your circular logic is annoying at best. I’ve already stated that IF feminism was similar to @Elaines view that that’d be great but it has surpassed that. Don’t take my words out of context. That is an example of how it has gone to another extreme. Also if your literacy were as sharp as you wish it were, you’d notice that my post to @NiceGirl was not about my generalization of progressive woman it was in response to her saying I was generalizing Americans. Ketchup, mustard.

  601. SugarySpicey says:

    In a conversation with Marianne Schnall, founder of Feminist.com, Poehler recalled her past statements on the subject of celebrities rejectingthe “feminist” label publicly: “That’s like someone being like, ‘I don’t really believe in cars, but I drive one every day and I love that it gets me places and makes life so much easier and faster and I don’t know what I would do without it,”
    – Amy Poehler

  602. SouthernSB says:

    Lainey says:
    November 19, 2014 at 9:29 am

    @Elaine that’d be great if that’s truly what the feminist attitude was. I believe it was that at one point waaaayy back when women just wanted to be equal and fight suppression but now it has far surpassed that and is an egotistical, self-serving way of thinking.

    It isn’t just this way with feminism it is this way with everything. People nowadays are more self-centered and selfish than anytime in history, and I am going to admit it, my generation is totally to blame for it. My generation is the one that brainwashed our children with the false notions that they were all special and that everybody deserved a crown, trophy, ribbon just for showing up. We tried to give you confidence and it made you cocky, we tried to give you self-esteem and you became conceited, we tried to give you everything we never had and you became spoiled and entitled. Now, I’m not saying this about every young person on the planet or even every young person in the country or on the blog or in the sugar bowl, but too many of our children grew up this was and now they don’t know what to do with themselves, and we as their parents don’t know what to do either. We groomed you for an easy ride through an utopia that doesn’t exist, but we never got you ready for the hard times that were due to come out and for that we really need to apologize to all of you and do something to make it all better.

  603. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey – You actually did generalize about an entire culture, “Progressive women have become exceedingly SELFISH and smug! With their body, time and support. They act as if they can’t be bothered. That choosing to birth and devote themselves to their families is below them and frequently look down on women that have taken that path. These are the same women who will eventually give birth and have a ______ (insert any foreign race here) nanny performing the duties she should. Americans outsource everything, INCLUDING their parenting.”

    But, your point is just wrong. The progressive women you disparage have pushed for friendlier family leave acts, breastfeeding feeding protection, health care services, and flex schedules so they can find more work/family balance. Additionally, these women (many of whom work by necessity not choice) have dramatically changed the professional landscape when it comes to family-friendly corporate policies.

    Additionally, anyone who has an “Ivy League” education knows that feminism isn’t one defined theory. There Are Actually Ten Distinct Schools Of Feminist theory, Which the Liberal Arts curricula at all if our nation’s top schools discuss in their general education courses. These academic fields explore topics as diverse as Marxism and separation of labor, environmentalism, violence against women, and 5th Wave Feminism which discusses the current return to homemaking as a craft that we’re seeing on the increase in America (Martha Stewart, Pinterest, Little Gym to name a few).

    Next time you run off at the mouth, at least make your comments on brand with your pretend blog persona.

    Additionally, didn’t you say you’re in sugar because you want to launch your own business? And, haven’t you repeatedly mentioned having a child? Pots and kettles, dear.

  604. Lainey says:

    @Nicegirl put your 2 cents back in your pocket. No one needs it. I’m not generalizing an entire race. How can I say one type of women looks down on the other if you’re claiming that I’m saying they are all the same? Nonsensical. You’re missing the point of the entire post. Stop trying to start controversy where it is not. My message and views are VERY clear and can be supported by statistics if you’d like them.

  605. Nicegirl says:

    @Lainey,

    That is a little harsh don’t you think? Generalizing how all American women are as human beings, friends, lovers and mothers? I think there definitely are people (of many different races) that are selfish and expect others to for them what they should be doing but I don’t define an entire race because of it. Just my 2 cents…

  606. Lainey says:

    @Elaine that’d be great if that’s truly what the feminist attitude was. I believe it was that at one point waaaayy back when women just wanted to be equal and fight suppression but now it has far surpassed that and is an egotistical, self-serving way of thinking.

    It’s funny, having this conversation with one of my guy friends last night (one who I regularly call a b*tch for his overly feminine views btw) and we agreed that Progressive women have become exceedingly SELFISH and smug! With their body, time and support. They act as if they can’t be bothered. That choosing to birth and devote themselves to their families is below them and frequently look down on women that have taken that path. These are the same women who will eventually give birth and have a ______ (insert any foreign race here) nanny performing the duties she should. Americans outsource everything, INCLUDING their parenting.

  607. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    Ever wondered why I don’t argue with your approach to sugar? 😉

    For whatever it is worth, if you can sell you definition of feminism to a significant number of women, the you and they have my support.

  608. Nicegirl says:

    @ Elaine

    “My definition of “Feminism” is:
    Using your intelligence to be able to take care of yourself.
    Being respected as a woman.
    Getting the same possibilities as men, and take them in your own, feminine, way.
    Not having to feel inferior to men, not feeling superior either.
    Accepting the differences, and use them the best you can.
    Not accepting suppression in any form.
    Being self confident about your femininity.”

    I think this is a perfect definition. You don’t have to be manly to be feminist.

  609. Elaine says:

    @ Josh

    Something else just comes up in my mind.

    When I stated to never want to depend financially on any man, or to never accept alimony, you very much agreed with me.
    But you DO realize this comes from a feminist way of looking at things, don’t you? :-)

    Do I consider myself a feminist?
    If I would really think about it?
    Yes,…But I never really think about it.
    I am who I am, I am me, and that is what counts!

    I am very sorry “feminism” often gets confused with “being unfeminine”.
    It is possible to be VERY feminine AND feminist at the same time!
    You don’t have to be rude, aggressive, or act manlike to be a feminist.
    Being a feminist you don’t have to decline from having a man or a family.

    My definition of “Feminism” is:
    Using your intelligence to be able to take care of yourself.
    Being respected as a woman.
    Getting the same possibilities as men, and take them in your own, feminine, way.
    Not having to feel inferior to men, not feeling superior either.
    Accepting the differences, and use them the best you can.
    Not accepting suppression in any form.
    Being self confident about your femininity.

  610. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    “The low birth-rate goes hand in hand with feminism, which has plagued the western civilization, and it has no sign of stopping anytime soon.”

    In my opinion it has not to do with “feminism” as such, but with education level.
    The lower the education level and social class, the younger at first birth, and the more children a woman gets.

    An intersting given is that in general the more “feminist” a country, the richer and more developed it is, with the lowest reproduction rate.
    The more suppressed and uneducated the women, the poorer the country and the biggest the reproduction.
    (Only exception to this are some backward Middle Eastern countries, only rich thanks to oil.)

    So the actual situation is that “underprivileged” is reproducing and “privileged” is not…

  611. flyR says:

    SS – I think it is unproductive to believe that the world can long survive with a stabilized population where the most productive societies are declining populations are headed for a decline the those who without the more productive elements would be headed for a Malthusian brick wall. As a small data point – in the US a tiny fraction of the population feeds the rest while in less developed societies are far greater percentage of the population is required to provide food.

  612. flyR says:

    @SS “This idea that only men have strong secular urges is false thinking based on likelihood of satisfaction. ………..”

    It may feel good but a great lecture on orbital mechanics delivered to your adoring German Sheppard is not likely to be fully appreciated.

  613. SugarySpicey says:

    *strong sexual urges

  614. SugarySpicey says:

    Just because you don’t understand something doesn’t make it illogical, don’t be condescending, it’s rude Josh.

    I’ll make it simpler for you:

    This idea that only men have strong secular urges is false thinking based on likelihood of satisfaction. If men only had a 40% chance of ejaculating every time they had sex, they would be in a very different position. It’s some men’s poor sexual performance that leads to women declining sex – she is more likely to be left feeling frustrated and disappointed than satisfied. Women who are fortunate enough to have skilled sexual partners are far less likely to decline; whereas tolerating awkward, rough, painful groping from a man who is generally not kind, sweet, or charming is far from desirable.

  615. Liz says:

    I highly recommend Somerset Mall in Troy, Michigan. I’ve been many times and am still in awe of there decoration, glass roof, and selection of stores! Again it spans from Saks and Neiman Marcus to Macy’s as far as department stores go, but also is exclusive with Louis Vuitton and inclusive with Forever 21. All around it’s a fun time!

  616. Lainey says:

    @resop2 the other sites I belong to have such forums. LOVE IT!

  617. 1337Coder says:

    @Nicegirl

    I know what you mean, those guys are probably fake SDs who can’t really afford SBs and just wanted to use the site to boost his date-ability score (Men here are automatically +3 on the date-ability for having money, so if he’s a 6/10 somewhere else, he’s a 9/10 by default here).

    That being said though, younger and better looking SDs generally get better deals. If you are even conflicted about the situation, that means you are thinking about his offer. If he was ugly and old, you would just move on and this entire conversation would be moot.

    Girls who generally want 2k-3k will settle for 1.5k or even 1k monthly if the SD is good looking and young, assuming that the SB can live with 1k monthly. A lot of time, a good looking SD would assume if you want 3k to sleep with some 60 year old guy, I can probably get by with 1.5k since I am only 27. That’s the mentality behind it.

    That and the fact that younger SDs are not really paying for “sex with hot girls”, they are actually paying for “hot girls who had sex with me to leave me alone”. The idea is that you can only realistically date ONE hot girl and it involves a lot of time investment and drama, BUT you can Sugar-Date 3 of them without any issue and there’s no implicit commitment.

  618. resop2 says:

    I am wondering if this site would be better if there was a forum section where people can battle it out on a variety of topics?

    There could be:

    “cosmo’s guide to interpreting messages”
    “slut shaming 101”
    “man bashing for dummies”
    “worst date stories”
    “worst pick up lines”
    etc.

  619. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey

    “I hate this new fucking phone it autocorrects everything!”

    Does it autocorrect:

    1. Female logic?
    2. Incoherent thoughts?
    3. Circular logic?

    😉

  620. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey lol Cheap bra? You must’ve forgot who you were speaking to so we are going to ignore that. Mind you I’m mid-20s. You’re over a decade my senior exposing more than I am. I’ve already explained my view to @SouthernSB. Certain things are acceptable at certain ages. You can’t have this view towards men and then twist it to justify your geriatric antics.

  621. SugarySpicey says:

    I hate this new fucking phone it autocorrects everything!

  622. SugarySpicey says:

    Why women aren’t choosing today’s men [http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2014/09/24/decline_of_marriage_pew_shows_there_aren_t_enough_marriageable_men.html]

  623. SugarySpicey says:

    It doesn’t hurt my feelings to be called a slut, it just points out your own ignorance and inconsistency (as you use your bobs and cheap bra for an avatar).

  624. SugarySpicey says:

    Josh – men aren’t pursuing sec without orgasm, they “need” to ejaculate. They don’t go around having sec with women without an assumption of orgasm. If men would step up their game in the orgasm delivery department they’d find their partners increasing in the sexual symmetry.

  625. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey

    “If a man gives a woman great sex, she’ll crave sex (the oxytocin that comes with a great orgasm is as addictive as heroin). If a woman isn’t having orgasms with her partner, then naturally she won’t experience that addiction. So, blame the source.”

    You proved my point dear. Men DON’T need great sex. Men need frequent sex. The “bar” for a man to fuck a woman is generally VERY low. Otherwise, most women, except the best-looking ones, will go hungry. 😉

  626. Lainey says:

    I’ve already stated its my opinion. @SugarSpicey If it hurts you so much to be called a slut either stop doing it or ignore the shaming talk. I will NEVER be an advocate. Sorry.

    As for men needing to “keep up”. I believe that when ones purpose is lost so is their way. You can’t honestly believe that the feminist attitude has had no impact on the decline of quality men.

  627. SugarySpicey says:

    *slut shaming

    And who the hell wants to be a cougar copulating with a younger man, gross. I like my men accomplished.

  628. SugarySpicey says:

    The birth rate us declining due to global carrying capacity. The world already has 7 billion people, and even with declining birthrate developed countries consume significantly more resources than the world can handle, leading to famine and natural disasters (due to global climate chaos) and infant mortality. Having more children than one’s replacement rate (I.e. no more than 2 daughters or 3 sons per couple) is unconscionable and unnecessary. Additionally, women now have longer child bearing years, and previous theories about increased genetic abnormalities with age are being disproved every day.

    Whereas, early-life child bearing is far more likely to lead to poverty, child mortality, maternal mortality, and low lifetime accomplishment among the mother and the children.

    As far as the women’s movement “leaving men behind” well, there’s an easy answer to that, Gentleman need to keep up, too many unemployed, uneducated, XBOX playing deadbeats are kicking around in the gene pool at a time when women’s accomplishments are skyrocketing. Modern Men just aren’t what they used to be.

    As far as the ongoing “slit shaming” on the blog, what business is it of yours if a woman has sex in a way you don’t approve of, unless the competition is affecting you, it has no impact on your life at all, so mind your own business.

    As far as thinking women don’t enjoy sex. That’s just based on one person’s very limited experience. If a man gives a woman great sex, she’ll crave sex (the oxytocin that comes with a great orgasm is as addictive as heroin). If a woman isn’t having orgasms with her partner, then naturally she won’t experience that addiction. So, blame the source.

  629. Lainey says:

    @Josh HONESTY is a good safe model, false monogamy where someone cheats due to the pressures of a relationship is not.

  630. Josh says:

    How many hours before one of the idiots raises his/her ugly head and complain about the frequency of Guru’s posts? 😉

  631. Josh says:

    @Lainey, wow my favorite avatar is back. Thanks. 😉

  632. Josh says:

    @Lainey,

    I personally don’t have problem with monogamy. It could be a good, safe model if enough women appreciated their monogamous men. But they don’t.

  633. Josh says:

    20-something men ogling over “cougars” (euphoria for older women) is a fantasy many women believe in.

    YES some 20-somethings may even ogle over geriatric great grandmas, but the percentage of such men is low. 😉

  634. Lainey says:

    @Josh TRUE! I don’t believe in monogamy. Its against nature. At least this is how I was brought up.

  635. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    “he needs to grow up” is women-serving fucked up concept. It stems from the idea of men settling down, having kids, and taking care of ONE whinny woman.

    If a man wants to timeshare with many whinny women, then so be it. 😉

  636. Lainey says:

    Lol @SouthernSB 20 somethings are trollops too but let’s be realistic there is an appropriate she for all things in life. Funny how a woman can look at a 50 something yr old man that is still running the streets with women and say “he needs to grow up” but want to be revered as “liberated” when they do the same thing. Umm NO. I refuse to praise or look up to a woman that is doing the same thing as my generation but is twice my age.

  637. Josh says:

    @Bella Sugar

    “Well, this certainly is an interesting forum. Reading a few of the replies has me quite entertained.”

    What are you finding interesting and entertaining sweetheart? 😉

  638. SouthernSB says:

    Maybe I’ll just add that to my bucket list.

  639. Josh says:

    @Eloquence

    “lol – Now, I get it. Thank you Josh for the visual.”

    Which “visual” are you talking about dear?

  640. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB

    “I use to be twenty and in my whole life I have never had a threesome, kissed a girl in a club,”

    I think that you have your work cut out then. 😉

  641. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    ‘@Josh

    “If that’s what women are doing where you are, then they can kiss their birth rate good bye…and be ready to say hello to the Muslim workforce to run the industry and take care of the geriatric Europeans.”

    This is indeed what women are doing, but not only in Europe, I think the same happens in the US and all other developed countries where women have acces to education.

    And I am not even 100% sure this is the main reason bringing the birthrate down.
    I think the reasons are far more complicated.’

    You are correct. The low birth-rate goes hand in hand with feminism, which has plagued the western civilization, and it has no sign of stopping anytime soon.

    With time passing, men in the western world have not much incentive to have children, only to be yanked away from them more than 50% of the times.

    In Eastern countries, if a woman decides to divorce, more often than not she has to leave the children behind because children de-facto belong to fathers. But not in the western world.

    Also, the birth-rate issue could be complex, but the prime drivers are still very few.

  642. Josh says:

    Women getting hornier in their 30s is an urban myth.

    I am sure that some women are “horny as hell” all their lives, some women have “regular” appetite for sex, but most women don’t give a shit about sex EXCEPT as a tool to get from point A to point B in life.

    Sex is woman’s discretionary “want” and men’s predominant “need.” THAT creates a multi-trillion dollar economy for women’s welfare in a global scale.

    If men just cared to have sex to get women pregnant few times in their lives, most women will live economically miserable lives.

  643. SouthernSB says:

    Perhaps it’s only me, but when I had a husband I never refused him (well I can’t say never because that would be a lie, but most of the time). I found time to be with my husband despite the fact that I had to do the regular stuff that we women are expected to do. I stuck by my hubby even though we were quite poor. In fact I still haven’t gotten the divorce even though it’s been 14 years since I’ve seen him and he has another wife and (at last count) two other children. Half the things I hear about women having all these sexual problems and keeping from their husbands, I don’t even understand. None of the women in my family seems to have any of these problems. I can understand how you could think that women are just, as you say “getting a thrill, trolloping all over town.” But seriously, if older women are acting like trollops, what exactly are 20 somethings doing?
    I use to be twenty and in my whole life I have never had a threesome, kissed a girl in a club, or sent dirty pics to anyone (yes you could do that back then). Now, I’m not judging as I have had my share of one night stands, but really am I much more different than anyone else? Is anyone my age? I don’t really think so. I think judging each other and calling each other names just poisons the well and makes us hate each other when we women should be sticking up for each other and making each other feel better. God knows there is enough out there to make us feel bad.

  644. Lainey says:

    @SouthernSB I really didn’t need a recap. Already have my mother, remember? Lol. So I geeeettt it but I still think it’s unacceptable.

    The “horny as hell” comment also brings me back to my point. It’s amusing how the consensus is that women get a sexual boost around mid 30s but yet this is the same age in which the refuse to please their husbands yet they have all the sexual drive in the world to run around and be a trollop? Sounds like BS. I think women just find thrill in doing what “men do”.

  645. SouthernSB says:

    I meant “be in the sugar bowl” not on the blog.

  646. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    “If that’s what women are doing where you are, then they can kiss their birth rate good bye…and be ready to say hello to the Muslim workforce to run the industry and take care of the geriatric Europeans.”

    This is indeed what women are doing, but not only in Europe, I think the same happens in the US and all other developed countries where women have acces to education.

    And I am not even 100% sure this is the main reason bringing the birthrate down.
    I think the reasons are far more complicated.

    Speaking for myself, I had my kids as an “older” mum, but would I have had more kids if I would have had them 10 years earlier?
    No absolutely not.

  647. SouthernSB says:

    @Lainey-Thanks for the compliment. You have to understand though, the reason so many women in their 40’s and 50’s act like they are teenagers is because they are starting the third part of their life. The kids are gone, the few that have taken care of themselves can still wear nice clothes, there is no way we feel like “old ladies,” and quite frankly we are horny as hell. So we all go about wearing clothes that are too young for us, run around trying to hook up with men not much older than our college aged children (not that I would do that, as I have no use for projects anymore) and being “that person” at the club or for that matter “on the blog” :) Sounds familiar doesn’t it?
    Once someone asked why would a woman “of a certain age” be on the blog. Well for me, there are two reasons. 1. I am doing it for the same reason I went into the Navy: Fun and profit and the ability to shop in as many ports as possible, and 2. I have a problem with having good healthy relationships with purely nice guys IRL, but in sugar I have no problem finding intelligent men who treat with respect, and something like that is worth being a GrannySB.

  648. Josh says:

    I wonder why they call them “harem” pants though.

  649. Lainey says:

    I believe there is a difference between a woman that is secure and able to take care of herself but still respects traditional gender roles and serves their purpose to procreate at a REASONABLE age, and today’s “I don’t need a man” mentality, lack of humility, and poor home training lounge runners (classier version of a club-hopper lol)

  650. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    “So it is Photoshop for women by a designer woman.”

    Well, more “Photoshop for women by a designer who thinks this is what women want to see”
    I think, apart from the hardcore fashionista’s, she is wrong.:-)
    Both men and women find this ugly.

    And yes, fashion is a women’s thing indeed, most straight men don’t give a damn if we dress accoording to latest fashion, they just like what they see, or they don’t! :-)

  651. Josh says:

    THAT is very honorable outlook @Elaine.

  652. Josh says:

    $2.99 is way too much for this piece of crap []http://tinyurl.com/psbcvrk[]

  653. Elaine says:

    @Josh
    “Getting married for a couple of years with the right guy would be an easier route, no? ;)”

    NO.
    I think every woman should be able to take care for herself, without having to rely on men.
    As for myself, I would prefer the humbliest sort of job if it would safe me from the humiliation of having to keep my hand up for such benificiary as alimony.

  654. Lainey says:

    @Josh AGREED

  655. Lainey says:

    @SouthernSB I’m referring to the way women act not feel. Glad you’re feeling young and vibrant though.

  656. SouthernSB says:

    Heck as far as I’m concerned 50 is the new 25. At least that’s the way I feel. Not the way I act, suffice it to say, but definitely the way I feel.

  657. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    If that’s what women are doing where you are, then they can kiss their birth rate good bye…and be ready to say hello to the Muslim workforce to run the industry and take care of the geriatric Europeans.

  658. SouthernSB says:

    I use to have a pair of harem pants, and I can tell you those are the ugliest pair of harem pants I have ever seen in my life. I wouldn’t be caught dead in those things.

  659. Lainey says:

    @Elaine you’re right! Lol. I’ve witnessed how my mom behaves and yea seems 40 is the new 30 (although she’s nearing 50) but that’s all depressing and discouraging to me and many young women. I would’ve liked to know that we as women adapted to accommodate, encourage and compliment the modern men; not enable them or learn to live without. Unfortunately the progression of women has had an adverse affect on the home.

  660. Eloquence says:

    lol – Now, I get it. Thank you Josh for the visual.

  661. Elaine says:

    @Lainey

    Well, I don’t see anything wrong in that, all around the world the age of giving first birth raises parallel to the education level of women.

    But better not start this discussion, not the right blog for that!

    Since also women die at ever higher age, so everything just moves up.
    40 is the new 30! :-)

  662. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    “Yes let’s make t shirts with “Granny powerrrrr” on it, now THAT would be funny! 😉
    And then we sell them via SA to everybody in granny age (30 plus) and with the earnings we will be able to retire from our maffia activities and spend our days sitting on the porch, knitting socks for our grandchildren! :-)”

    Getting married for a couple of years with the right guy would be an easier route, no? 😉

  663. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    Most of these women have ugly legs…thanks to Photoshop, perhaps? If they were Photoshopped, it was for women as most men would not even know who Ronny Kobo. So it is Photoshop for women by a designer woman.

    What does she have in her pants? []http://tinyurl.com/psbcvrk[]

  664. SouthernSB says:

    Oh good grief, I was just making a joke. I didn’t want to start a war all over again. BTW, I really am a granny, but as far as I am concerned I became one at a totally reasonable age. My grandbaby was born when I was 47.

  665. Elaine says:

    Oops, something went wrong transmitting…

  666. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    Well apart from the fact one could shoot a cannonball between her knees without ever hitting her, there is (photoshopped!) also quite a hole near her crotch!

    Anyway, I am really wondering how many men would prefer this above a Marilyn Monroe kind of physic?

    @ Southern

    Yes let’s make t shirts with “Granny powerrrrr” on it, now THAT would be funny! 😉
    And then we sell them via SA to everybody in granny age (30 plus) and with the earnings we will be able to retire from our maffia activities and spend our days sitting on the porch, knitting socks for our grandchildren! :-)

  667. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    Well apart from the fact one could shoot a cannonball between her knees without ever hitting her, there is (photoshopped!) also quite a hole near her crotch!

    @ Southern

    Yes let’s make t shirts with “Granny powerrrrr” on it, now THAT would be funny! 😉
    And then we sell them via SA to everybody in granny age (30 plus!) and with the earnings we will be able to retire from our maffia activities and spend our days sitting on the porch, knitting socks for our grandchildren! :-)

  668. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    The thigh gap many of us find sexy has to do with the gap between the thighs right at the crotch and NOT too far down close to knees.

    Those photos of models are pretty boring and cannot be used to display thigh gap.

  669. Bella Sugar says:

    Well, this certainly is an interesting forum. Reading a few of the replies has me quite entertained.

  670. SouthernSB says:

    @Elaine-Amen!!! That is some serious photoshop going on. I use to be that thin, but I haven’t been that way since I was about 19 and I was literally dying, from a rare congenital heart condition. It gave me a model’s weight (no matter what I ate), stunted my growth (I’m only 5’0″) and killed my stamina (although I was a hell of a cheerleader in H.S). Luckily, I was able to get it corrected when I was 25 or I wouldn’t have lived long enough to become part of the “grandma mafia” on the blog. BTW, I love that term and was thinking of getting a t-shirt made.

  671. Elaine says:

    @ Tightgap SDs

    Was just surfing the Torn by Ronny Kobo winterholiday collection.

    Pure thight gap porn for you guys!
    What do I say, tight GAP!?
    It is a tight ABYSS!
    Obviously photoshopped, but hey! Your equivalent of fake porn boobs! :-)

    But now serious, just a female curiosity:
    Is this what you mean if you talk about that “sexy” tightgap?

    I find it scary!! :-/
    And it makes me embrace my female curves even more. :-)
    Long live the hourglass size 10!

  672. SexyRockstar says:

    So…when things get awkward, I just start singing….
    I’m too sexy for my shirt…Too sexy for my shirts, So sexy it hurts…..And I’m too sexy for Milan!
    Too sexy for Milan! New York and Japan

    ((dances)) ugh ugh ugh REMIX!

    WHAT DOES THE FOX SAY?

  673. flyR says:

    Hello SensualRN

  674. latinbarbie says:

    I love the mall. Shopping is shopping no matter what. Malls are a great way to hit all the stores without having to drive all over the place =)

  675. Nicegirl says:

    SensualRn says:
    November 17, 2014 at 11:23 am
    Josh I wasn’t referencing you on being interesting and funny..

    Now that IS funny…. ;o)

  676. Josh says:

    I am not talking about ME being “interesting and funny” per se either. I was referring to the blog.

    Now if you were not referencing the blog as being “interesting and funny” then my mistake.

  677. SensualRn says:

    Josh I wasn’t referencing you on being interesting and funny..

  678. Josh says:

    *but gets really really passionate…

  679. Josh says:

    @HonryDippedCaramel and @SensualRn

    Thank you. We try to keep it interesting by keep tabs on boring ones, and by forcing the boring ones to write interesting stuff.

    For example, read gtt_envy’s post against me from yesterday. He’s typically boring by gets really really passionate when he writes against me.

    Hahahaha!

  680. SensualRn says:

    New to this but this is so interesting and funny. Hope everyone is having an awesome day.

  681. Josh says:

    @MissMariposa

    Good one. I have a feeling that one of the SBs in my area is using Jennifer Lawrence’s photo but I am not sure. 😉

  682. MissMariposa says:

    Oh yeah, and a big shout out to the guys that use celebrity photos as profile pics and still block out the eyes like I can’t recognize a Clooney or Pitt chin LOL. That is AWESOME!

  683. MissMariposa says:

    Hey all…. missed these chats lol. My SD life is soooo boring right now, this is my only form of entertainment. Can I just say, shout out to the guys who don’t date black girls and have no idea what you’re missing. I on the other hand have a very good idea what we are missing…. not much. Anyways, I am proud to love men of all colors, shapes, and *ahem* sizes. Sexy men are easy to come by, interesting men are not. I suspect it’s the same for women. And now that I have rambled and mused sufficiently for the day, I’m moving on. LOL 😉

  684. HoneyDippedCaramel says:

    Lol. Sometimes this blog is better than Facebook. I love it!

  685. FatB'StardSA says:

    @flyR

    “Pointy – On target”

    You were right! Your post does prove that an empty cart makes the most noise!

    I hope the blog SB’s don’t hold making fun of flyR against me :-(.

  686. LenaRussian says:

    Dubai Mall, Dubai and if you want super high quality knock-offs at seriously good prices, Al Karama district, Dubai.

  687. flyR says:

    Pointy – On target

  688. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Pointed Shoes

    “Basta – considering how much time you spend chatting up the blog SBs, you must find these ladies far more interesting than you let on.”

    Now that is funny!

  689. SexyRockstar says:

    Okay, lets get this all sorted out.

    Josh is a great SD, he has a ton of sarcasm in his posts. They are harmless.

    Pointed–welcome to the blog. Please share your fantastic…and not so fantastic experiences. But, from now on, try reading Josh’s post in a Steve Urkel voice. It will help you decide if its sarcasm or not.

    WHY CANT WE ALL GET ALONG?!?!?!

  690. Josh says:

    @PointedShoes

    There’s “natural selection” and then there are “natural boobs”. There’s no such thing as “natural ass-u-muption.” 😉

  691. Pointed Shoes says:

    Josh – it’s a natural ass-u-mption when you post 30% of the time about how women don’t understand the marriage commitment, someone who has never been married wouldn’t speak that way, and someone who is currently married wouldn’t have so much time to blog.

  692. Josh says:

    @Pointed Shoes

    “and your wife left you”

    Hmmm, where is that coming from?

  693. Josh says:

    @Pointed Shoes

    “To call someone stupid is not socially appropriate in any polite company.”

    It was a general comment NOT specifically directed to you. If you ass-u-med that it was specifically directed to you, then please correct that assumption. Thanks

  694. Pointed Shoes says:

    Basta – considering how much time you spend chatting up the blog SBs, you must find these ladies far more interesting than you let on.

    Josh – I’m sorry that you weren’t hugged as a child, and your wife left you, but that doesn’t give you carte blanche to be abusive and immature. To call someone stupid is not socially appropriate in any polite company.

  695. Josh says:

    “some men are really threatened by intelligence in a woman”

    “some men” are always doing one crazy thing or the other…

    I am sure “some men” are “threatened by intelligence in a woman”.

    Many SDs here (minus one) seem to be more “threatened” by the stupidity of a woman. 😉

  696. FatB'StardSA says:

    @PointedShoes

    ” I did notice that tendency, some men are really threatened by intelligence in a woman…”

    Thankfully it is very rare to meet such a specimen, to be fair to the blog SB’s
    i have to say flyR and gtt_envy are not the sharpest tools in the shed either and both claim to be men.

  697. PointedShoes says:

    Nice girl – LAX is my second home, we have a very love/hate relationship.

  698. PointedShoes says:

    Thanks for the warm welcome all (and GTT, I did notice that tendency, some men are really threatened by intelligence in a woman, I think that’s what’s behind the whole ISIS hatred of educating girls).

    At the conclusion of my first 24 hours:

    1 interesting POT I chatted with back and forth who randomly went radio silent.
    1 “professional athlete” he checks out on Google, but I don’t know his particular sport well enough to have an opinion.
    A handful of “media execs” (probably due to my geography)
    And, a sighting of a guy I used to bang IRL but broke up with. Fortunately, I don’t think he’ll recognize me from my profile photo since my face isn’t shown.
    Not bad when coupled with a day’s work and no direct outreach!

  699. O. Crafoord says:

    Only American destinations? Pssh.

  700. flyR says:

    @ sexy – i think all they needed was a damp cloth and they would be ready to go . The driver looked like he need double digit stitches

  701. KatPaw says:

    @Elaine thank you hun.
    @Josh ohhh I’m good ready to jumbo back into Sugar now that I’m settled.

  702. SexyRockstar says:

    I would never ever ruin a pair of shoes. I mean, I cry every time I see a rocker smash his guitar. I die inside

  703. flyR says:

    I was driving down Sunset Bl one night and suddenly realized the woman in the car next to me was attacking the driver with a shoe…… Lots of blood drawn and that stiletto heel lived up to its name.

  704. SexyRockstar says:

    I read on another blog…found it funny. SB hit her POT with her shoe. I guess he tried getting too fresh with her.

    A shoe? A fuckn shoe? All my shoes are designer. I fight with my hands. This way, I can get a manicure and my hands/nails will be pretty.

    Don’t take my advice, I got in trouble twice for bar fights, HAHAHA. But, just bring pepper spray .

  705. flyR says:

    I am an advocate of discussing things in the early communications but strap-on s in the first email are a little off the wall.

  706. Josh says:

    @KatPaw

    How are you dear?

  707. Elaine says:

    @flyR

    @Pointed shoes – You could always send mr strapon a message of unbridled enthusiam along with Mr Leave Your Panties at home’s phone number”
    Hahaha, funny :-)

    @ Katpaw

    Hi welcome back!! :-)
    How are you?

  708. KatPaw says:

    Hello all its been ages sugars! All moved to NC hopefully a little more luck with sugar in the Raleigh area!

  709. flyR says:

    @pointey shoes – The stories are great and hopefully more will follow.

  710. FatB'StardSA says:

    @gtt_envy

    “Josh is nasty to every single woman on this blog, especially new comers. Why does no one from SA realize he is pushing sugar babies away and block him from the board? He provides nothing to the blog except headaches and irritation. His tips are generic and cliche. Like right now, he is picking apart where someone’s quote came from. How beneficial to the sugar babies on here!”

    For the record, I was the one picking apart where someone’s quotes come from. Why do you give a shit if Josh is scaring away blog SB’s? Are you running out of local SB’s to meet and resorting to looking on the blog? The fact that Josh bothers you, flyR and Pricey Spicey is reason enough for him to post on the blog. I don’t have the time to annoy certain blog posters so I am happy that Josh picks up the slack.

    What do you have against masterbation?

  711. flyR says:

    @Pointed shoes – You could always send mr strapon a message of unbridled enthusiam along with Mr Leave Your Panties at home’s phone number

  712. Nicegirl says:

    @pointedshoes-

    “Oh Southern, he did, he did. I do declare I almost got the vapors … but instead decided to reply, the crew lounge at LAX is bo-ring today, might as well taunt the squarely weirdo”

    I just literally left LAX, on the plane now… small world ;o)

  713. SouthernSB says:

    Nope, same guy.

  714. Josh says:

    So this is different from the guy with ED?

  715. SouthernSB says:

    @Everyone-as I am not willing to relocate, he met someone else to be his assistant/concubine.

  716. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB

    What happen? :(

  717. Elaine says:

    @Southern

    So sorry to hear that!

  718. Josh says:

    @PointedShoes,

    You are correct. You are not my type. I will ignore you. Whine away. 😉

  719. Josh says:

    @gtt_envy

    That’s pretty entertaining post indeed.

    I like it when people post with PASSION.

    Hahahaha!

  720. PointedShoes says:

    I’m sorry Southern, that sucks!

    Fly – isn’t chatterbating what all blogs are about?

    Josh – since I didn’t attack you, mention you, or even acknowledge you perhaps your assumptions are out of line. Either way, I repeat: feel free to ignore me, we have nothing to talk about. You are not the kind of SD I like, and I’m confident that I am not your type either.

  721. SouthernSB says:

    @Pointed-well I did just lose my SD today, so I do need something a little stronger than Calgon to take me away.

  722. gtt_envy says:

    To the new SBs on the blog, pay Josh no mind. He is not a real SD. This is the same guy who has a “Chaturbate” account, fyi. What SD spends all day and night on a forum? Real SDs are too busy working or you know, actually having dates instead of posting 24/7. Josh hates when women share their stories (probably out of jealously that he receives no attention in real life), yet he shared his own story recently. Supposedly the girl just COULDN’T wait to rip his clothes off, so they had sex in her SUV. I guess he doesn’t have a car of his own or enough money to get a hotel room. Not surprised. You’d think by his fantasy stories he’d go more glamorous ;).

    Josh is like a whiny toddler who hates when he isn’t given attention, so he lashes out, desperately wanting to start fights with anyone who will listen to him stomp his feet. It’s very sad reading his posts constantly trying to argue with others. Imagine how annoying and unstable he is in real life!

    Josh is nasty to every single woman on this blog, especially new comers. Why does no one from SA realize he is pushing sugar babies away and block him from the board? He provides nothing to the blog except headaches and irritation. His tips are generic and cliche. Like right now, he is picking apart where someone’s quote came from. How beneficial to the sugar babies on here!

    Please, if you see any comments from him, ignore him. Do not feed the whiny child throwing tantrums. Josh is the pimple on the blog’s ass that will not go away. Constantly poking the puss-filled pimple will only anger it. Josh, you are not liked. Please go to the “Chaturbate” forum and annoy them.

  723. Josh says:

    @PointedShoes

    “Was I required to get your authorization before sharing?”

    It is not “required” per se, but it would have been helpful, TO YOU.

    As far as I am concerned, you are a proxy of an existing blogger…which happens a lot. That is, when some bloggers want to lash out against me they coin a different blog id and lash out.

    Hahahahaha!

  724. PointedShoes says:

    Oh Southern, coffee, tea, or me?

  725. Josh says:

    As per Suzanne Massie, The author of “Trust But Verify: Reagan, Russia and me”, “I met President Reagan on January 17, 1984, just before I was sent to Moscow by the White House on a back channel mission. After this successful mission, I met with him seventeen more times over the next four years of his second term and taught him the Russian Proverb, Doveryai no Proveryai (Trust but Verify), which he loved and used often.”

    FB had pointed out to flyR that it was indeed a Russian proverb, but that did not bother flyR a bit. 😉

    So it was NOT Reagan’s saying…he was asked to use this RUSSIAN proverb because according to Massie, an expert on Russia (and Soviet Union), Russians like to use proverbs in conversation.

    “Empty wagons make the most noise” is a well-known proverb…a variation of which is “empty vessels make the most noise.” If someone’s grandfather used it so be it.

  726. SouthernSB says:

    @PointedShoes-taunt away, then give us the details, we who have no life will be are in desperate need of the entertainment. “Hi, I’m Candi. Fly me!!”

  727. Elaine says:

    @PointedShoes

    Bore us ?!
    Haha, I think these stories are funny to read and share! :-)

  728. SouthernSB says:

    @PointedShoes-re: Josh-Ahahahahahaha!

  729. PointedShoes says:

    Josh – if I bore you, you are welcome to move along. No need to insult me straight out of the gate. Was I required to get your authorization before sharing? Reading back blog posts you’ve shared plenty of “shenanigans” and speculation, most of them quite boring. :p

  730. PointedShoes says:

    Oh Southern, he did, he did. I do declare I almost got the vapors … but instead decided to reply, the crew lounge at LAX is bo-ring today, might as well taunt the squirrely weirdo.

  731. Josh says:

    @PointedShoes

    I have a feeling that instead of blocking “weird” SDs you are going to bore us with their shenanigans? :(

  732. SouthernSB says:

    @PointedShoes-I am seriously clutching my pearls. He said that in the first message? WOW!!

  733. SouthernSB says:

    @Jessica, I live in a mid-sized city so the mall is the only place that is available for me to shop. If I want to shop at boutiques I would have to take a 150 mile road trip to the nearest major city.

  734. PointedShoes says:

    Someone just sent me an intro message that started out charming enough (compliments, understands allowance, etc.) then paragraph three goes into how he wants to spend hours with his head between my legs, then paragraph four is about how he’d want me to return the favor by “breaking him” with a strap on. Makes me worry about those “you break it, you buy it” policies. Seriously lads, this is content best saved for message three, even if my duck face is stone cold sexy.

  735. flyR says:

    @ sexy a good decision and a gift to future sb.

  736. flyR says:

    For FB

    “trust but verify” is most remembered from Reagan’s explanation of negotiations with the Soviets who had broken virtually every prior agreement.

    “empty wagons make the most noise ” came from my grandfather in Maine (down east) son of a lighthouse keeper. Where it came from I do not know. Like Swedish men, those folks are minimize their word count.

  737. Josh says:

    “If you think it’s gross, you are probably just as gross”

    Hahahaha!

  738. Jessica says:

    My comment as above.

  739. Jessica says:

    I think malls are a great way to shop. People shouldn’t snub them. If you are worried about crowds, don’t go. If you are worried about close quarters and are a germaphoebic, don’t go. If you think it’s gross, you are probably just as gross and your standards are way too high. You can be a classy girl and still attend a mall as well as outlet stores.

  740. FatB'StardSA says:

    One thing I have learned on the blog is that everything in life can be summed up with “empty wagons make the most noise” and “trust but verify”. Of course flyR cannot properly source the origin of either saying.

    I says a lot about a persons intellect when they cannot even come up with an interesting blog persona. Imagine how boring flyR must be IRL?

  741. PointedShoes says:

    Sexy – when the BF presented me with a big ring I didn’t want to wear for the next 60+ years things got awkward real fast so I asked for a transfer. I do miss Giordano’s though and Sunday brunch in Lincoln Park, and Garrett’s – OMG what I’d give for a good cheesey Carmel mix.

  742. SexyRockstar says:

    Why would you ever leave the gold coast?!?!?

  743. PointedShoes says:

    – error “read” about, in old blogs.

    Thanks for the entertainment.

  744. PointedShoes says:

    Hey Chicago ladies! I lived on the Gold Coast for a bit before moving West.

    Only been on SA for a day and I received the infamous message from the SD I have heard so much about – the guy who wants to enjoy Daddy/Daughter role play and dangles putting me in his will to inherit a Mexican resort. WTF, creeeeepy!

  745. SexyRockstar says:

    Not getting a date, LOL.

    I need the Bears to win. Mama nervoussssss

  746. Josh says:

    I am confused. What is he getting and what he is not getting? 😉

  747. SexyRockstar says:

    So, been messaging this guy back n forth for a few weeks ((I’ve been traveling a lot as you know)) so I haven’t been able to see him.

    So, we have a date planned. He DEMANDS that I wear a super short dress with heels and I remove my panties and hand them to him if I like him.

    Yeah, we’re meeting up at a breakfast spot for our first meet. I told him “I don’t typically wear panties because I hate panty lines, but now you won’t get to experience that”

  748. Josh says:

    Great perspective @Sexy. Thanks for sharing.

  749. SexyRockstar says:

    For some reason, SBs think they will find a man that will legit take care of them. Giver them a huge monthly allowance, plus a new car, ext ext. It’s up to you what to do with the money they give you.

    So, yes, through sugar, you CAN get a new car, but thats because you saved your money like a smart woman. Through sugar, you CAN get a nicer apartment, but thats because you paid off your debt with your sugar money and saved some. But, do NOT expect to be able to quit your job unless, you do that I did, SAVE SAVE SAVE your sugar money, start your own business and slowly leave your shitty l restaurant job when you’re able to make money off your new venture LONG ENOUGH to know it will stick.

  750. Josh says:

    Allegations against Bill Cosby…well-to-do men should be VERY cautious when dealing with women. Women like Barbara Bowman will stop at NOTHING.

  751. flyR says:

    @ Cubs – Seven years ago there was another young man filling cyberspace, speaking loudly, frequently, and at times arrogantly, that he alone had all the wisdom and all the answers and that those who disagreed were uneducated, dishonest or simply unenlightened. Today, much poorer, but wiser, we know the truth. There’s an old Down East saying which we might have considered back then, “empty wagons make the most noise”.

  752. Elaine says:

    @MamasBoy

    Hey, being a granny SB, I was bloody serious!! ;-p

    Since there is few male SBs blogging, it would add to blogs variety if you would share your experiences with us!
    Hope you will keep on blogging (and no, no hidden agenda in this 😉 )

  753. Nicegirl says:

    @Cubs…. You should wonder about the SD advice when it is coming from those that do nothing but troll this blog ALL DAY. Just a word of advice, truly successful men don’t have that kind of time…

  754. Cubs022 says:

    @josh please do :)

  755. Josh says:

    @Cubs022

    Read @flyR, @Rebecca and @NiceGirl’s posts.

    I will point out more if you stick around. 😉

  756. Cubs022 says:

    @josh can you give an example of “wishful thinking about how sugar reality should be”.

  757. Josh says:

    @OhSOSweet6

    Thanks for your support. Please ask questions as you run into situations that you need help with.

    AND keep in mind that some people here–mostly but not always SBs–would give you idiotic advice because:

    1. They like to see their sentences show up on the blog, and/or
    2. They have some wishful thinking about how sugar reality should be and/or
    3. They believe that’s what you want to hear.

  758. OhSOSweet6 says: