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So you want to be a traveling Sugar Baby?

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The “Sugar Baby” title comes with loads of fun perks. From monthly allowances to designer clothes, fancy dinners and a life of luxury. Lucky Sugar Babies meet Daddies who want to soar, sail and drive them to amazing places as well. So you want to be a traveling Sugar Baby – here’s how.

Be Prepared

Get your passport, if you don’t already have one. You never know when the right Sugar Daddy is going to come along and ask you to go on a 2-week vacation to Milan. Sure, if you don’t have the right luggage to bring on your trip, your Sugar Daddy could hook you up with the latest bags from the Michael Kors collection, but when it comes to your passport, he won’t be able to do much.

The last thing you want to do is miss out on the trip of a lifetime because you were ill prepared. Head to the nearest post office and get your passport now so you are able to travel wherever, whenever.

travel with a sugar daddy

Be Available

Make time. Sugar Daddies work hard so they can play harder. Many Sugar Daddies aren’t going to want to go on vacation for 3 days, especially if it’s an international escapade. Understand he may want to whisk you away for 1 or 2 weeks.

No, this does not mean you should quit your job to experience a dreamy free destination, it simply means you should save your paid time off, or be prepared to ask your coworker to cover your shift with short notice.

Be Exciting

A great attitude will get you everywhere. Don’t be diva. When a Sugar Daddy treats you to a lavish vacation, it can be easy to let it go to your head – don’t be that girl. Be kind, be understandable, and be grateful. Yes, he was going to go on this trip with or without you, but that does not mean you should act entitled. A little “thank you” goes a long way.

on the beach with daddy

Remember, this is his vacation and you are his guest.  Be prepared to do what he wants to do, since he is footing the bill. However, some men will want you to pick the activities. Be prepared with ideas from Trip Advisor or Yelp so you two can make the most out of your time together.

Be Safe

Your safety is of utmost importance. Previously, we’ve composed blogs about carefully traveling with a Sugar Daddy. Don’t travel with a Sugar Daddy on a first meet, and make sure close friends have a copy of your trip itinerary prior to your departure. Always bring your personal cash or credit card just in case you need to part ways on your own terms.

Travel away, and enjoy the benefits of being a pampered, adventurous Sugar Baby!

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865 Responses to “So you want to be a traveling Sugar Baby?”

  1. Anonymous says:

    where is my sugar baby. I already have my passport

    • Anonymous says:

      Passport in your right hand. SB in your left hand. Lotion in a 3 oz bottle. You’re all set to go anywhere in the world.

  2. Anonymous says:

    Wooooooooow I love travel, Im new here, need a sugar daddy

  3. BrelinnSB says:

    i absolutely love traveling sounds really interesting to not just travel alone..

  4. La Mia Belle says:

    I would love to travel see the world, new things

  5. Annvert says:

    Sure ill be a traveling baby as well.

  6. OH MY GOSH yes!

    I want to be a travelling sugar baby :)

  7. Imsal says:

    I like one women with me through my journey : Jan 22, 2015

  8. Ash says:

    I love this blog! I just hope a Sugar Daddy will be interested in me.

  9. Josh says:

    @Bri

    I am glad to make you laugh. 😉

  10. Bri says:

    @Josh haha you make me laugh. I have used SA for a few years and have always been flown worldwide by my lovely SDs. Just because you are not prepared to do this doesnt mean there arent tonsss of lovely guys who are. My name on SA is Bri, and I have a blog called guttersandgalleries- you can search this and it comes up, which shows my sugar journey (including trips to italy for shopping, morocco and have just come back from a lovely country spa retreat. photos are there to prove). I would not listen to the advice not to believe what I am saying is true… why would I lie? I live in London and there are so many girls with this type of travel arrangement and me and my SD are already planning our next trip. I have never ever asked for any of this, but created a profile that was well written and about my personality and likes and therefore have attracted some great guys. Feel free to check our my blog and any girls who would like to contact me feel free.

  11. Bri says:

    @Josh haha you make me laugh. I have used SA for a few years and have always been flown worldwide by my lovely SDs. Just because you are not prepared to do this doesnt mean there arent tonsss of lovely guys who are. My name on SA is Bri, and I have a blog on tumblr called “guttersandgalleries”- you can search this and my blog comes up, which shows my sugar journey (including trips to italy for shopping, morocco and have just come back from a lovely country spa retreat. photos are there to prove). I would not listen to the advice not to believe what I am saying is true… why would I lie? I live in London and there are so many girls with this type of travel arrangement and me and my SD are already planning our next trip. I have never ever asked for any of this, but created a profile that was well written and about my personality and likes and therefore have attracted some great guys. Feel free to check our my blog and any girls who would like to contact me feel free.

  12. 42SWM says:

    Not necessarily. A company needs to a registered agent which is public information, but otherwise a business is not required to publish the names of the owners. Of course, as a practical matter, it is hard to a have a functioning business without naming some of the owners/managers. Websites and e-mail addresses are going to convey information.

  13. Josh says:

    @HotPieceOfSass,

    Company names and their owners’ mames are public information.

  14. HotPieceOfSass says:

    …there are so many ways to get funds for deposit outside of paypal tho.

  15. HotPieceOfSass says:

    If you have a business Paypal he won’t get your real/full name.

  16. Underseahag says:

    Can I nominate sugary spicey as my mentor, influence, and personal heroine? Also who wants to take me barefoot sailing in the BVIs before hurricane season sets in?!
    I’m a captain and a divemaster so I can pilot and teach diving… Plus my tits are great and look amazing in turquoise water….

  17. Of course I want to be a Traveling Sugar Baby. I want to see the world and have new experiences. Life is too short. Seize the day!

  18. Of course I want to be a traveling Sugar Baby. I want to see the world and have new experiences! Life is too short. Seize the day!

  19. Josh says:

    @Petite

    “@MissMariposa
    You can buy the tickets yourself (make sure they’re refundable in case plans change) and then get reimbursed.”

    Have you received money this way already?

  20. Re: PayPal

    It has been validated my members here that your full name appears once the transaction is processed.

  21. SexyRockstar says:

    New blog is up…and missmari, best way to travel without giving name is buy the tickets OR set up a paypal account :) have him dump money into your paypal!

  22. Ha! Well, babe, it was simple. I followed your words of wisdom as noted here:

    “It is pretty simple.

    1. First go to a Middle Eastern store and buy a lamp.
    2. Rub it.
    3. A genie will appear.
    4. Tell him [youd like to request a virgin blog].
    5. The exact phrase to use is, “Virgin blog!”

    Yep, worked like magic. Thank you, Guru,mylove,LordoftheSeventhDaySugarAdventurists!
    You rock my world, babe 😉

  23. Josh says:

    You got your wish granted babe with the Guru’s proclamation of “Virgin blog!” on it already. 😉

  24. MissMariposa…I hope you dont mind my sharing because I mean this as pleasantly as possible!

    I cant help but read your name as MissMaripusa, which makes me think MissMerryPussy, which makes me think MissHappyPussy, which makes me think, “What a lovely name :).”

    So, cheers to you, my friend! From one happy pussy to another :).

  25. More of an excited request, sweets :).

  26. Josh says:

    The flip side of buying a ticket yourself is that a fully refundable ticket is twice as expensive and the refund feature is pretty much gone if you have traveled one way already.

    The good thing about having your own ticket is that should things go horribly wrong you will not be in a mega jam.

  27. RSD says:

    Yeah, if you’re traveling you either have to give the SD your real name for plane tickets, or you have to buy the tickets yourself and hope the SD reimburses you.

  28. Josh says:

    @y

    Was that a demand babe?

  29. MissMariposa says:

    @Josh so flippin what, I don’t pay for any social networking sites. IJS its annoying when you’re actively in the process of seeking people out and you’re profile doesn’t reflect the updates immediately. You know it is too lol.

    @Petite thanks! good advice.

  30. Petite says:

    @MissMariposa
    You can buy the tickets yourself (make sure they’re refundable in case plans change) and then get reimbursed.

  31. Josh says:

    @MissMariposa

    “I just say this picture approval stuff is annoying AF. I appreciate this site, I really do but dude. People are checking me out now, not in 48 hours. #MissedOpportunities”

    How much did you pay for the membership sweetheart? 😉

  32. MissMariposa says:

    Ooh ooh I have a real live question… I have read that some SB don’t give their real names. If that’s the case then how do you go on a trip? If the SD buys the tix then you have to give him your info right?

  33. MissMariposa says:

    an I just say this picture approval stuff is annoying AF. I appreciate this site, I really do but dude. People are checking me out now, not in 48 hours. #MissedOpportunities

  34. mscheezious says:

    Halloween?

    Im going as fondu.

    yougottabedippingme

    saucy

    By the way…

    I met a guy. He like me long time. I like him back. Maybe, just maybe I’ll break my recycled virginity.

    yum

  35. MissMariposa says:

    Alright I have changed my profile because I could already see that the hits were not equaling interest… I think my new one is better. Now about these damned pictures….. Ugh. lol

  36. Josh says:

    @MissMarisposa

    Sweetheart, if you didn’t ask questions how would you learn then?

    Always remember, there are no dumb questions.

  37. MissMariposa says:

    Dammit @Josh lol…. I’m not asking you anymore questions. @SugarBabyGurru TYVM love.

  38. Josh says:

    *Double Diamond Stud Member

  39. Josh says:

    @MissMarisposa

    An SD can become a single diamond member or double diamond member.

    The way it works is that he gets one or both of his nuts pierced and then gets diamond stud(s) screwed in.

    If he gets both nuts pierced and studed, then his fully qualified designation is: Double Stud Diamond Member or simply Double Diamond Member.

    If he gets one of his nuts studded then he is called Right Nut Diamond Stud Member or Left Nut Diamond Stud Member…or simply Single Diamond Member.

    The benefit of becoming a diamond member has more to do with the stud factor than the diamond(s), really.

  40. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Mariposa – they’re paying significantly more for their membership and have to jump through more hoops to get the status, so in theory they’re more serioua POT candidates.

  41. Paul Allen says:

    1) Trust your intincts !!
    2) exchange several pics and emails
    3) talk on the phone.
    4) Finalize the business before the trip so both parties can move on “to having fun!!”
    5) First time trip, do it domestic and less than 2 nights
    6) Enjoy yourself !

  42. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Rockstar, you forgot the advice to duckface, the duckface is critical!

  43. MissMariposa says:

    I have only seen single @Josh but tell me about both

  44. SugarBabyGurru says:

    Mariposa – on the main landing page toward the bottom you’ll see “browse sugar babies” you can then scroll through dozens of profiles.

  45. Josh says:

    @MissMariposa

    Single diamond member or double diamond member?

  46. Little Kitty says:

    You can browse other girls profiles by clicking over to the “old version” of SA :-)

  47. MissMariposa says:

    @SexyRocksta yes I do want my profile better but I think it’s gonna take a lot more tweaking. I did get a PTO already and I’ve only been on the site 2 days so I guess it aint all bad lol.

  48. MissMariposa says:

    @Josh I want to look at other SB profiles, can I do that? How do you search? And WTF does diamond member mean? I landed a PTO already so I guess my profile wasn’t as bad as I thought. It will evolve as I do. Work in progress. (Plus now I’m embarrassed to show anyone lol)

  49. Josh says:

    Why? Kiddie = when I was a young, but sexually active man. 😉

  50. Little Kitty says:

    Well the weather is better than last year… Not saying much though. I hope you don’t have to work Monday :)

    @Josh – Sounds highly unsatisfying 😛

  51. SexyRockstar says:

    Who has two thumbs and seeing Alice Cooper on Sunday?!?!?! THIS GIRL

    @Kitten
    Are you having nice weather like we are? If it honestly keeps it up like this, I can even go as naked Batman. My costume is super cute. I really can’t wait. It’s a romper with a cape, and it zips from all the way to the top to the bottom. It doesn’t cover all my ass, so it’s cheeky 😀

    Thigh High fishnets and sexy heels! AHHHHH, it’s more of a fashion thing then anything. But of course, I have the calm-down version when it comes to trick or treating with the kids :)

  52. Josh says:

    In my kiddie days, Halloween was the best time to hook up with new/random women. 😉

  53. Little Kitty says:

    @Sexy – Lol, slutty Batman eh? Sounds like fun! I was regular Wonder Woman last year (which is slutty enough) Going out on Halloween is a win/lose situation… Cold outside/too hot inside.

  54. Josh says:

    LOL @SexyRockstar

  55. SexyRockstar says:

    Really? I am looking for a Sugar Daddy to take me to Alice Cooper!

  56. joy says:

    i I am looking for a sugar daddy takes me into the holiday

  57. SexyRockstar says:

    Speaking of shitty weather, I hope to god it stays nice out for Halloween. I am slutty BatMan. I want to dress slutty without freezing my sheeeettttt

  58. Josh says:

    @MissMariposa

    The one in the shittiest-weather city is pretty hot though. 😉

  59. SexyRockstar says:

    @MissMar

    You want a ‘Rockstar’ Profile? Welcome, you came to the right place. A bikini picture can only do so much. Make you your hair looks good and you have make up on. Smile in another picture…and no pictures of you and your friends together.

  60. Josh says:

    Figuring out what women want and articulate them + matching it with the men who give a shit + keeping women’s evolving fucking wants in sync with men’s on-going giving shit = multi-gazillion dollar business opportunity.

  61. Josh says:

    @DallasSB

    “you have to find the message that speaks to what you really want.”

    If you can cone up with a step by step “how to” for the above then you would by a very rich proxy. 😉

  62. Josh says:

    I searched MissMariposa and that’s what I found. You will have to post profile id for further help. Thanks

  63. MissMariposa says:

    @Josh ummmm nope not me sorry

  64. Josh says:

    @MissMarposa

    Are you 27, 5-9, live in a city with the shittiest weather in the world?

  65. Josh says:

    @DallasSB

    Go back and put yourself in the shoes of the girl who goes thru the same though process and has no problem with $150 p4p. 😉

  66. Josh says:

    @MissMariposa

    Read my post at October 23, 2014 at 9:34 am and few after that. It’s sarcastic response. Don’t take it literally. 😉

  67. DorkyGuy says:

    The 22 Jump Street end credits were awesome. Just sayin’

  68. MissMariposa says:

    Yaaaaay @DallasSB you give good advice honey. I’m chatting with him now, and he’s actually pretty cool. I see your point there. Definitely don’t want to appear *thirsty* lol. I have like 10 windows open reading up on all the SB info which I think is also helping me navigate the terrain. So far, so good. :-)

  69. DallasSB says:

    Hey Mariposa – I’m not an expert on your particular situation, but keeping an open mind really helped me in the sugar bowl. A married guy who wants a GF might still be really into taking care of his GF, he just maybe doesn’t want to feel like he’s “paying for it.” Try asking how he envisions a GF arrangement being “mutually beneficial” for you, considering he already has a wife.

    My first time here my profile was too sexy because I took the opposite approach you did, you have to find the message that speaks to what you really want.

  70. DallasSB says:

    What is the appropriate answer to that Josh? It depends on a hundred factors. Am I naturally attracted to him? Was he nice and respectful in the way he said it? Does he actually care to get to know me, or just my pink parts? Is there anything about him that I can connect to, one person to another? I like sex, a lot, a lot, a lot, but if I had sex with someone who just used my body and didn’t care if I enjoyed it I would feel really dirty and sad.

  71. MissMariposa says:

    @josh I’m looking for your list your highness lol…. whew its a lot to get thru.

  72. MissMariposa says:

    Welllllll, I thought they did at first @DallasSB but now I’m not so sure. I just added a pic of me in a two piece for good measure lol. But that too is in SA limboland pending approval… so yeah. As far as the pics I have now IDK. Today was my first day with my profile up and out of the approx. 20 ppl that checked me out I got 4 bites… Is that good odds you think? And just t ooclarify for anyone who want to help me build a rockstar SB profile, I don’t think it sucks because it’s written badly I just don’t think it’s right for this site an what I’m trying to do here. For example, one of the bites I got was from a guyt who straight up told me her wanted a GF LOL (and he’s already married, but claims to be doing the “roomate” thing #YEAHRIGHT). With all due respect, I ain’t here to be nobody’s GF. I’m here to find a SD, and if that develops into more well hey so be it.

  73. DallasSB says:

    No, that makes sense. I did misunderstand you then. There are lots of guys like him on SA (or at least there used to be) who are much older and DO think that Rob’s approach and income is what being an SD is all about.

    I guess it’s working for him, and he’s giving those girls what he said he would so more power to them.

  74. Josh says:

    @DallasSB

    Are you saying that if someone offered you $1500 for p4p you will not feel like a call girl anymore?

  75. DallasSB says:

    MARIPOSA – do you feel like your photos were well thought out and show you at your most attractive? If the answer is no, they probably aren’t great. I felt that way about mine so I retook them, and now I’m in SA limboland again waiting to be approved. I’ll share when they’re live.

    Josh – I’m a proxy of Fat’B’strds man boobs.

  76. Josh says:

    Did you read my list of things to become an SB up above yet?

  77. Josh says:

    Sweetheart, @Rob is 24 years old. Read it again…24 years old. He’s fucking honest about his 1200/month take home income. It is insane to think of a man being a “sugar daddy” at this age with the numbers he is throwing around.

    I don’t expect you to be excited about someone like him. I am just curious.

    That’s all. Explanation over. If you still don’t “understand” then… 😉

  78. MissMariposa says:

    It sucks.. I already know. I’m waaay new to this, do I just give you my SN or what?? And how do I know if my pictures suck? Ugh… this is harder than I thought LOL.

  79. DallasSB says:

    Hey Josh –

    Maybe you misunderstood, or maybe I was unclear? I said I was confused. I didn’t take a swing. I said I couldn’t tell if you supported him or not. And, then I shared that I personally would find it insulting to be offered $150 like I was a call girl, which I didn’t intend for you to feel was directed at you at all!

    My earlier question was also just that, posts were disappearing before our eyes with no rhyme or reason. I corrected myself when I was wrong. :)

  80. Josh says:

    @MissMariposa

    Please post your blog tag or id and some of us will critique.

    May the Force be with you. 😉

  81. Josh says:

    OK let’s ask Lainey’s opinion. She is pretty smart.

    Is DallasSB a real blogger or yet another proxy? 😉

  82. Josh says:

    @DallasSB

    Please let me be very clear. I don’t give a shit what you think of my point of view as you are clearly one of those who don’t give a shit what my point of view is.

    I have learned that those who come here swinging at me have made up their mind that they are going to create drama at my expense by opposing me as you already did earlier.

    So as I suggested earlier join some of the blog posters who object to my posts regardless of what I write.

    OK sweetheart. 😉

  83. MissMariposa says:

    Been reading through all these blogs and the never ending commentary that follows….. aaaaaaaaand now I hate my profile. I’m totally just realizing that it doesn’t speak to why I’m here or what my expectations are, and my bio portion is really more of a dating site kind of bio. Ugh…. I’m totally new to this and really need some pointers to attract a good SD.

  84. DallasSB says:

    Hi Josh –

    No, it sounds like you support his approach to sugar, but then you also seem to not like people who think “mutually beneficial” is a transaction. So, to be honest, I’m confused about how much you seem to support his approach to sugar dating.

    Also, there seems to be a really negative attitude from what SDs on the blog consider “entitlement” but I am fortunate/hard working and make a little more than Rob and would find it insulting if he read my profile then still thought he should proposition me like I’m a call girl. Does that make me entitled? I guess I think I’m worth more than a guy like that. Not that there aren’t other girls who might really like him, I know sugar attracts all kinds.

  85. Lainey says:

    @Josh I previously stated my SD is 26. Previous one was 23.

    But my potty-mouth comment was that Rob isn’t a SD hes a (magic) tr**k

  86. Josh says:

    @DallasSB

    Do you think I worry too much about your liking or disliking of @Rob or his sexual preference?

    I just want to know what brought a young person like him to sugar, if suger is his sole “dating” activity, if he differentiates sugar from prostitution, why’s?

  87. DallasSB says:

    Josh – I don’t know, bragging about having unprotected anal sex with women who will have congugal relations for $150 doesn’t sound like a long-term planner on an impressive life trajectory. I think you maybe missed the sarcasm behind my use of the word “gentleman”. :)

  88. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    Post the non-potty-mouth version then to see if it gets posted. LOL!

  89. Lainey says:

    Dude I guess they are on top of moderation today. Lol. My comment was stopped before it even posted. #PottyMouth

  90. Josh says:

    Agree with him or not, @Rob is a different class of sugar daddies. I am fascinated. I too hope that he posts more and is not harassed by the usual suspects.

  91. Josh says:

    @Rob claims that “Too many sugar daddies are overpaying for sex, they are going to end up broke and homeless.”

    The young sugar daddy does not realize that it is not the SBs who are going to cause sugar daddies to be “broke and homeless”, it would be their wives if they found out about their sugar activities.

  92. Josh says:

    @Rob is not “married, three kids, old as dirt.”

  93. Josh says:

    *He has at least 24 more years to up his arrangement offers. By the time he is 48, he will have more money to offer to his SBs than a 48 year-old guy who has lost a lot of time and money with wives and girlfriends. 😉

  94. Josh says:

    @DallasSB

    Sweetheart, he is just 24. Unlike many 48 years-old who wasted 24 years with girlfriends and wives, this guy has a head start. He has at least 24 more years to up his arrangement offers. 😉

  95. DallasSB says:

    “Rob” sounds like the perfect gentleman. I do hope he returns the blog to delight us with his bargain shopping tips.

  96. Rebecca says:

    Question. Still need to book flights for Spain. I have a feeling a 12k first class plane ticket will not be on the agenda. The allowance is 3k for 6 days. Is it hell being in coach on an overseas flight? Not direct. The flights seem to be a mix of first, business, and coach..

  97. Josh says:

    But come to think of it, his annual income in Mexican pesos is three times higher than @Rob’s so he can pay at least $450-$600 p4p.

  98. Josh says:

    An SD has “NotShallow” as his tag and 500,000 as his annual income. Looking at his main photo I cannot tell if that income is in US dollars or Mexican pesos.

  99. Josh says:

    Hahahahahaha!!!

  100. DorkyGuy says:

    @Josh,

    Every morning… make 100 useless posts to the blog.

  101. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy,

    Every morning…look in the mirror and repeat 1001 times, “I am ……” I don’t need to write “the word.” You know that already.

    When communicating with girls, use language, such as, “They look like delicious cupcakes made by a master baker, whose secret recipe includes a pinch of fairy dust, a tablespoon of happiness, and they are topped with rainbows and hope.”

  102. DorkyGuy says:

    @WCSD~ I am trying! M&G’s keep dissolving. Got stood up today, despite having a text confirmation one hour prior.

    Despite having 6 in the last email run interested in meeting, not one has manifest into a successful meeting.

    Maybe it’s just bad luck, or maybe I should shower or just arrive after she’s already there.

  103. DorkyGuy says:

    @Kirsten~ Thanks! That answered my question.

    @DallasSB~ You are probably right, an Instagram filter.

  104. FatB'StardSA says:

    @DallasSB

    I am aware of what stretching means. I am hung like a can of coke and would gladly exchange a bit of girth for some extra length.

  105. FatB'StardSA says:

    @RSD

    “Rob is younger and is probably much more attractive and fun to be around than you are.” does not imply that “Rob is a young stud”.

  106. Josh says:

    @FatB’StardSA

    “@RSD

    Rob is younger and is probably much more attractive and fun to be around than you are.”

    We would not know if he is any better or worse looking than RSD. But either he is a real trooper who has skipped the whole “love” thing, or shy or uninformed.

    If he is unskilled in approaching women his age, all he needs to do is to invest a few hundred dollars for pick up artist training and he will not have to pay much, if at all. But if he has some kind of disadvantage or he as skipped the regular “relationships” then hey the man’s got to do what the man’s got to do.

  107. DallasSB says:

    Softi stretching refers to taking something and making it larger while thinning the diameter, you’re talking about engorging.

  108. DallasSB says:

    Looks like your post got deleted too Josh. So I take Iit back. :p

  109. Josh says:

    @DallasSB,

    You just got your wish granted. Four of my posts got moderated. @DorkyGuy has been granted respite by the lady with the sexy smile who carries a big stick. 😉

  110. WCSD says:

    Wow do you people all have a lot of time on the weekend to spend on a computer writing and reading blogs! I can understand reading the blog/commenting to distract you from a meeting, work, etc. but the books of rubbish spewed onto the blog this weekend is insane. I guess it does make my life a little easier when these successful SDs and SBs spend their free time buried in a computer rather than meeting their SB/SD or new pots or really anything else in life that is so much more useful.

    Many of you definitely make me scratch my head… Anyway end of rant. Hopefully the others who weren’t participating had a weekend that was fun!

  111. FatB'StardSA says:

    @DallasSB

    I will reserve the stretching tool for a specific part of my body.

  112. FatB'StardSA says:

    @RSD

    Rob is younger and is probably much more attractive and fun to be around than you are.

  113. RSD says:

    @Rob, $200/month sugar fund is just sad :/
    I guess I’m dumb by blog standards, but I don’t believe in bargaining down an SB’s price. I just want her to be happy and feel well taken care of. I also want to know that she is financially secure and that I gave her more than she ever really expected (in any combination of amount, duration, etc). Providing for an SB is an intrinsic part of the relationship for me; I want someone I take care of. Whatever the psychological reasoning, I basically want to treat a girl like my little princess and have her show her appreciation through affection and sex. It is an expensive fantasy (or reality) to live out, and $200 would not cut it for me.

  114. DallasSB says:

    For that you use the stetching tool Softi 😉

  115. DallasSB says:

    Kristen, why are all the posts getting deleted but not Josh’s that said the exact same thing?

  116. FatB'StardSA says:

    @DorkeyGuy

    Believe me the SD’s have noticed it!

    @DallasSB

    Do Instagram filters remove 10 years and 30 lbs of weight?

  117. Josh says:

    @FatB’StardSA

    “@Josh

    “I gouged my knuckle with a power tool this weekend and am a proud recipient of three stitches.”

    You cannot use a power tool and your phone to post on the blog at the same time. Even if you are using the speech to text feature you still need to concentrate.”

    Hahahaha!!! Good one. :)

    But the key phrase is “still need to concentrate.” 😉

  118. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Josh

    “I gouged my knuckle with a power tool this weekend and am a proud recipient of three stitches.”

    You cannot use a power tool and your phone to post on the blog at the same time. Even if you are using the speech to text feature you still need to concentrate.

  119. DallasSB says:

    It’s probably an Instagram filter Dorky.

  120. DorkyGuy says:

    Looking through profiles of women who are 30+, I have noticed a trend… I don’t know whether anyone else has noticed it.

    In many of the photos, even if the lighting is good, the face is just a tiny bit blurry. It’s almost as if photoshop has been used to remove wrinkles. Many of the profiles like this don’t appear to have technically sophisticated users behind the camera. Is SA doing any preprocessing of images?

    • Kirsten says:

      @DorkyGuy – there are a lot of “airbrush” apps that people use today – I bet these women are doing that! SA definitely doesn’t alter images. :) Hope this helps!

  121. DorkyGuy says:

    Keep working on that Josh, you’ll get it perfected someday :) Your tweaks to the text along the way have been amusing.

    You could try using blockquote tags. Also, emphasis tags are useful for placing the author’s name next to the quotation on the same line.

  122. Josh says:

    Do you mean the one will seductive lips?

  123. DorkyGuy says:

    I think the Imperial March could be called the “Cynical March”. It is from the Dark Side, where all human relationships are defined in terms of power, money, and manipulation. Love doesn’t exist on the Dark Side. Nor does selflessness, or compassion, or any of the other positive emotions that may drive human behavior.

    The Wedding March however evokes a much more nuanced and hopeful view of human relationships. It recognizes that while power and money may be *a* factor in human relationships, that does not mean that they define the relationship.

    So which of these defines Josh’s treatise? Is it: “dummmm dummm dummm, dum da dummmm, dum da dummmmm”. Or is his treatise “dum dum da dummm, dum dum da dummm”?

    It will leave it for people more cynical than me to decide.

  124. RSD says:

    @Josh, I think prostitution is when the ONLY consideration is money, not when money is A consideration.

    A real professional prostitute will provide sexual services to ANYONE who pays; he can be fat, ugly, old, stinky, whatever. Just like a professional gynecologist will perform a pelvic examination on anyone regardless of age, physical appearance, health status, and hygiene, a prostitute is a professional who provides sex to any customer who pays the fees.

    A sugar baby who would sleep with anyone without regards to who they are is a prostitute. But the vast majority are not: they may want someone in a certain age range; they are typically looking for some element, however minimal, of attraction; and they would say no to many monetary offers.

  125. SexyRockstar says:

    @Kristen

    I’ve had an SD from Canada, LOL, does that count?

    Canada, Chicago…we both talk funny and both seem to be really good at hockey.

  126. Kirsten says:

    Hey lovely ladies from Canada,

    We are looking for some Canadian women for a radio interview. You can be completely anonymous for this. Please email me if you are interested: kirsten(at)seekingarrangement(dot)com.

    Thanks!

  127. SexyRockstar says:

    The black bra one? No. That one is old. It’s a different one.

  128. Josh says:

    Are you asking about the main photo? If yes, then I did and already commented on it.

  129. Josh says:

    I don’t have your id anymore.

  130. SexyRockstar says:

    Plus, you’d cry. It’s okay. Joshy, did you see the new semi-sexy picture of me?

  131. Josh says:

    I am not skinfully artistic. So no tattoo for me. :(

  132. SexyRockstar says:

    That’s it? 3? PPpssshhh baby. You and I are never getting tattoos together. You’d die. HAHA

  133. Josh says:

    Awww. I wish it gets better very very soon.

    I gouged my knuckle with a power tool this weekend and am a proud recipient of three stitches. 😉

  134. SexyRockstar says:

    @Josh

    I had a busy weekend. Busy Monday too. I went to the tat shop today to get a botched tattoo fixed. It’s wonderful now, but getting stabbed on scar tissue really really hurts.

    Beauty = Pain

  135. DorkyGuy says:

    dummm dummm dummm… dum da dummm… dum da dummmm…..
    dummm dummm dummm… dum da dummm… dum da dummmm…..

    Sorry, the Imperial March just popped into my head. It is distinctly different than the Wedding March, which goes like this:

    dum dum da dummmm…
    dum dum da dummmm…

    I have submitted the above observations to the United Nations for ratification. I expect to be named a guru shortly after, probably in March.

  136. Josh says:

    @All

    Check out the “Guru” advice by Rob, Matt and Julian at the bottom of the comments section in the “How to be a Sugar Daddy” blog. 😉

  137. Josh says:

    Admins: If this too risque a topic then please go ahead and remove this post. I have saved my own copy for future generations. 😉

    Re: Prostitution

    From time to time people come here and try to define prostitution for us. It seems that if something does not meet their own, narrowly defined criteria, then sugar turns into prostitution. Please allow Josh Guru to give his expert opinion, which is under consideration by the United Nations for global adaptation…

    1. When a woman engages in certain sexual activities to gain monetary or non-monetary favors, she is engaging in prostitution.

    2. When a woman engages in certain sexual activities without any regard to monetary or non-monetary gains, she is not engaging in prostitution.

    3. When a man solicits woman’s sexual favors by dangling tempting monetary or non-monetary favors in front of her, he is engaging in prostitution.

    4. When a man solicits woman’s sexual favors without dangling monetary or non-monetary favors in front of her, he is not engaging in prostitution.

    5. When a man solicits woman’s sexual favors by dangling tempting but imaginary monetary or non-monetary favors in front of her, which he has no intention and/or ability to provide, he is NOT engaging in prostitution. He is just scamming her. There are no laws against scamming women to take them to bed. From bars to pick up artist courses, it is a multi-billion dollar “industry.”

    Many marriages are textbook examples of prostitution, where women exchange sexual favors by securing a benefactor man, earning monthly stipends, and slowly attempting to control his time and money. Now this could be called legally and socially endorsed prostitution or scam depending on the nuances of the “relationship.”

    The landscape is changing, especially in the western countries, where women, in some cases, are making more money than men. In such situations these hard-working women don’t need to resort to legally and socially endorsed prostitution, also known as marriage.

    The trend is good from an individual’s perspective. But such self-dependency of women is resulting in the decline of population in those countries, as they don’t find much benefit in bearing and raising children as legally and socially endorsed “kept women.”

    Why I wrote the above?

    To help bloggers refrain from constantly coming up with cockamamie definitions of prostitution for us.

  138. Josh says:

    @SexyRockstar

    “I’ve missed a lot over the weekend.”

    It’s the other way around sweetheart. We missed a lot of you. 😉

  139. SexyRockstar says:

    I’ve missed a lot over the weekend. Wow. We all should be happy! Halloween is right around the corner!

  140. mscheezious says:

    I’m looking for a sugar daddy who can handle me at all extremes. Someone who is loaded and ready to go when I’m hot, ooey, gooey and ready to be dipped, or when I’m cold, sliced and ready to be laid.

    yougotta critique my profile, give me some pointers, help me unleash my mscheezious side ;). (<—-flirty)

  141. flyR says:

    I appreciate a woman who is not so obsessed with her nails and hair that she can function in a variety of situations.

  142. Josh says:

    @SD s

    How many of you are impressed with (or even care to read) women who claim that they are comfortable with extreme situations.

    For example, when they claim that they are as comfortable in short, tank top and flip flops as they are in an evening dress or that they are as comfortable hitch-hiking around the country as they are in first class travel?

  143. Josh says:

    “What I’m Looking For: “If your married, three kids, old as dirt. DO NOT EVEN CONTACT ME. I’m looking for fun, not baggage””

    Total lack of gratitude for the platform provided by Brandon Wade to enrich her life?

  144. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey Josh brought it up as valid advice and yet and still you found some way to make it about YOU! Not to say that I’m at all surprised.

    But luckily the topic has changed. Just hope it stays that way.

    @Balcone you can send it to ms lainey baby at g mail dot com

  145. SugarBabyGuru says:

    YouGottaBeFullofCheese – you must be native Asian going all exotic with you chopsticks and the like. Woooweee, my cheesey crackers are melting!

  146. By the way, FlyR…

    Sorry SugarBaby and I woke you. Hope we weren’t too loud.

  147. Id much rather be full of someone else. Just my humble opinion, though.

  148. flyR says:
    October 26, 2014 at 11:04 pm
    ““””””” they may not be as full of themselves as they appear on the blog.””””””

    Wow somebody cleaned the drizzle off the shaving mirror”

    FlyR…

    What Guru means is that instead of being full of themselves, they are full of someone else.

  149. No need to point fingers over duct tape, ‘Baby. You can stuff this crust anytime. My stuffed crust brings all the cheese to the yard and they’re like, “When the universe gives you cheese, make crackers and spread peanut butter on them.” And then I’m all pissed ’cause Sugarbaby’s lips are too sweet to appreciate the creamy filling.

    So now Im sitting here eating a Maria Callendar’s microwave dinner with chopsticks ’cause I’m too sexy for my fork.

  150. flyR says:

    “””””” they may not be as full of themselves as they appear on the blog.””””””

    Wow somebody cleaned the drizzle off the shaving mirror

  151. SugarBabyGuru says:

    If I’d have known you’re so generous to your Baby, I wouldn’t have made such a big deal over who does what to whom with the duck tape.

    My butter crust brings all the boys to the yard and they’re like, “Can I get some crazy bread?”

    And then I have to be all pissed, ’cause that ain’t how the song goes.

  152. It’s actually called a uniform…since I wear it everyday. Fifty percent off this garlic butter crust? :( Hope you’re still up for it…

  153. SugarBabyGuru says:

    YouGottaRideTheWave – I hope we don’t have a deal breaker here. I prefer to “take it” in my sexual relations, unless of course you’re willing to wear a Domino’s Pizza Delivery costume, in which case I’ll deliver to you all night long.

  154. Sugababe-I’m bringing sweetness back. Looking for fun, not baggage. Nothing a little duct tape can’t handle, though. You strap up, I’ll straddle up.

  155. DorkyGuy says:

    SBGuru, I sent her a note asking her what my baggage is

    Another observation… I am pretty certain at least 3 different profiles I have seen lately think that “Native American” means “I was born in America”.

  156. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Dorky, that’s hot. You should contact her immediately … after you change your username to “Grandpa Dorky” that is :)

    Let’s see, as a Guru I feel inclined to offer this dear baby some assistance on her profile:

    I am looking for someone fun, easy to be with, and unattached with whom I can share genuine chemistry and amazing times. When I travel I bring carry on luggage only, and I like to approach life, and share my time, with the same approach. 😉

    Why do people think it’s a good idea to be insulting in their profile?

    YouGottaBeLappinMe – I hate the way those dental dams get caught in my dentures anyway, I’ll predispose you to a little peanut and tickle.

  157. It’s our predisposition, sugababe. No dental dam.

  158. DorkyGuy says:

    lol, had to share this one…

    Her tagline: “I’m bringing sweetness back…”
    What I’m Looking For: “If your married, three kids, old as dirt. DO NOT EVEN CONTACT ME. I’m looking for fun, not baggage”

  159. SugarBabyGuru says:

    YouGottaBePayingMe – I don’t know, if you pay me beforehand I’m a prostitute, and if you give it to me I’m a rinser. Seems there’s just no winning. Let’s bump peanut butter crackers instead.

  160. I’m glad I was able to help, Sugar. Gotta give back…or pay it forward…depending on which side of the equation…

  161. “Josh says:
    October 26, 2014 at 9:11 pm
    If the bloggers take a few seconds in their day, every day, and thank dating genius Brandon Wade for greatly enriching their sex lives and/or bank accounts–depending on which side of the equation they happen to be–then they may not be as full of themselves as they appear on the blog.”

    You need a moment, babe?

  162. SugarBabyGuru says:

    YouGottaBeSlappingMe – I thank you for those Ritz Cracker Coupons. It’s really brought down the costs of my grocery shopping while increasing the overall appeal of my cracker nips.

  163. Josh says:

    If the bloggers take a few seconds in their day, every day, and thank dating genius Brandon Wade for greatly enriching their sex lives and/or bank accounts–depending on which side of the equation they happen to be–then they may not be as full of themselves as they appear on the blog.

  164. Two thrusts, and an ass slap!

    I buy my peanut butter cracker pasties in bulk at Costco. And then…I make it rain.

  165. Josh says:

    Gratitude is one the most important qualities a living being can have.

    This blog is maintained by SA as an extension of their marketing efforts. Please keep it positive and help those members who need help.

    Have a great lay!

  166. SugarBabyGuru says:

    YouGottaBeThrustingMe – you just called me Guru, therby appointing me with the title, heretofor it shall stick. Plus, my peanut butter pasties collect the highest allowance so I’m definitely the Guruiest.

  167. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Lainey – I didn’t bring it up. Josh warned Balcone not to share personal geography and warned her to have her geography removed. She asked why, I gave her the only two instances I am aware of in the entire blog history (remember I have been here significantly longer than you, and actually know some of these people IRL) where a blogger has been put in an uncomfortable place by blog geography oversharing. I answered Balcone’s question as politely as possible, after having extended MANY efforts last night to move forward with Josh in peace.

    As a side note, I’m sure with your education you can come up with something more articulate than STFU.

    Josh, please explain how I “harassed” you today? Seems it was you who violated the truce you offered.

  168. “Jacob says:
    when I beat up the class bully in 8th grade. I was elected class president in the following election.”

    [crickets…drowned out by laughter]

    Si se puede!

    “I am awaiting your edification on these points as I plan to make a fortune suing blog posters, at which point I will also be able to offer 10x the national average in child support.”

    FatBstard? I wanna blow you thrice.

    @ Jacob
    You have mail.

    @Jacob
    Not really.

    “Josh says:
    October 26, 2014 at 12:45 pm
    @Balcone

    “@Josh How do I contact the admins?”

    It is pretty simple.

    1. First go to a Middle Eastern store and buy a lamp.”

    But of course.

    “Jacob says:
    None of that aroused objection from the peanut gallery, yet my imitation of her approach insinuating her exploiting the young from the supply side, in terms nowhere nearly as graphic, some how frighten the peanut gallery? Sounds to me like the peanut gallery has a “pussy pass” double standard problem. LOL.”

    The peanut gallery has a pussy pass? And I thought that peanut butter cracker pasties were innovative…

    @Gurus

    Guru is a designation…an assignment…usually by rite of another guru or mass reverence. I gather, though, that you guys are throwing banter.

    “Petite says:
    October 26, 2014 at 2:24 pm
    @DorkyGuy
    Thanks :P.
    Never got around to sending Josh a pic of me boobies. ”

    Ha…nice save ;).

    Just so y’all know…I am ABSOLUTELY…..POSITIVELY the sanest person humping here. Yep, the gurus told me so.

    Kinda makes me wanna celebrate by high-fiving and pelvic thrusting strangers in the grocery aisle.

  169. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Dorky – I always knew Joyce was an odd sort, but that was gross, full stop.

  170. DorkyGuy says:

    I will admit, I am no James Joyce.

    “…if a gave you a bigger stronger fuck than usual, fat dirty farts came spluttering out of your backside. You had an arse full of farts that night, darling, and I fucked them out of you, big fat fellows, long windy ones, quick little merry cracks and a lot of tiny little naughty farties ending in a long gush from your hole. It is wonderful to fuck a farting woman when every fuck drives one out of her. I think I would know Nora’s fart anywhere. I think I could pick hers out in a roomful of farting women. It is a rather girlish noise not like the wet windy fart which I imagine fat wives have. It is sudden and dry and dirty like what a bold girl would let off in fun in a school dormitory at night. I hope Nora will let off no end of her farts in my face so that I may know their smell also.” ~ James Joyce

    At first, it may appear that he is just some guy full of hot air (lol). I don’t mean to toot his horn, but he is one of the most influential poets of the last century.

    I wonder if it was the Poet or the Irish in him that brought out this side. At any rate, he can sure turn a phrase!

  171. RSD says:

    @Josh, “Then we come to SA and harassed by the same kind of women we signed up to get away from.”

    My SB who lasted 4 years became so much drama in the last year that I’d go home to my wife for peace. People are people. And judging from all the personal and endless blog drama, I can only imagine what dating specific people on the blog would be like…

  172. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh"--the Ultimate Expert in SB Profiles says:

    “having sort of seen your boobs, maybe describing them will perk his interest. They look like delicious cupcakes made by a master baker, whose secret recipe includes a pinch of fairy dust, a tablespoon of happiness, and they are topped with rainbows and hope.”

    This is written by a proxy for female consumption. Men don’t write or care for shit like this, unless they are gamers, and are trying to mimic female speech pattern.

  173. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh"--the Ultimate Expert in SB Profiles says:

    I never proactively suggested that DorkyGuy was stupid, but when he asked me on October 22, 2014 at 2:03 pm, “Do you think I am stupid?” I said yes, because he is.

    I never asked @Petite to send me her photos, especially of her boobs. If she sends any kinds of photos, fine. If she does not, fine as well.

  174. flyR says:

    @ Balcome – to share emails ask the blog goddess to share your email with X

    bloggoddess please share my email with Lainey

    It may take a week but the blogmoderator will send your address to the indicated person and from there it is up to them to reply to you.

    I do not think there is a link from the site to the blog other than your email which is in the possession of SA and others. I’m not sure what SA shares but i would be surprised if they are not sharing information for profit.

  175. DorkyGuy says:

    LOL! I suggest that girls send Josh boob shots, and his reply is to call me stupid and a fool. So there you have it!

    @Petite… having sort of seen your boobs, maybe describing them will perk his interest. They look like delicious cupcakes made by a master baker, whose secret recipe includes a pinch of fairy dust, a tablespoon of happiness, and they are topped with rainbows and hope.

  176. Balcone says:

    @Lainey @Josh @RSD et al, not trying to get involved in any drama, but thanks for all the responses. Any advice on how the opposite sex thinks definitely helps. And silly me, I was worried about putting out identifying information because a SD on the site could be a total creep and harass me. Isn’t this blog part of the site? No one can see my profile or profile ID unless they have one of their own, right?

    I’ve redone my profile, but now I’m not sure if it’s too much. @Lainey is there an email I can send you what I’m thinking of putting up? I don’t even know how to exchange emails on this, let alone contact the admins. Everyone seems to be so secretive.

  177. flyR says:

    @sugarbabyguru will do

  178. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh"--the Ultimate Expert in SB Profiles says:

    @DorkyGuy: “Do you think I am stupid?”

    @Josh Guru aka “King @Josh”–the Ultimate Expert in SB Profiles: Yes you are…but must you make a fool out your proxy existence again and again?

  179. Petite says:

    @DorkyGuy
    Thanks :P.
    Never got around to sending Josh a pic of me boobies. :(

  180. DorkyGuy says:

    Sorry gals… I know some of you like Josh, but all he ever wants to talk about is me… Maybe if you send him more boob picks? I think he gave out his email address somewhere.

  181. Jacob says:

    Okay, let me get this straight: she falsely accused me of sexually exploiting immature women, and one of her proxies had previously talked about want to see me sexually tortured in extremely graphic terms. None of that aroused objection from the peanut gallery, yet my imitation of her approach insinuating her exploiting the young from the supply side, in terms nowhere nearly as graphic, some how frighten the peanut gallery? Sounds to me like the peanut gallery has a “pussy pass” double standard problem. LOL.

  182. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh"--the Ultimate Expert in SB Profiles says:

    @DorkyGuy: “Do you think I am stupid?”

    @Josh Guru aka “King @Josh”–the Ultimate Expert in SB Profiles: Yes you are…but must you make a fool out your proxy existence again and again?

  183. Lainey says:

    OMG STFU ALREADY! I would be completely supportive if any of this was NEW but @SugarSpicey you’re comment about @Josh to @Balcone was not warranted. You just did it to “plunger” everything back up again.

    Kristen had already entered the blog once and politely told you to stop talking about it.

    So again I say politely, STFU ALREADY!

  184. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy will soon show up to flex his “proxy” muscles. Yawn! How predictable. :(

  185. DorkyGuy says:

    Josh, this is the third time I am giving out this information. I know you have read it previously.

    Kirsten is not involved in the blog drama. She is not the right contact person. She just does marketing and content creation for the blog.

    Dragging her into this only makes her job harder while accomplishing nothing.

    The correct contact point is to email [a]support@seekingarrangement.com[a]

  186. Lainey says:

    @RSD she can remain cutesy in appearance but her profile was boring and repetitive, with very elementary sentence structure.

    Her pics alone will attract your type but her words need to attract the masses.

  187. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy will soon show up to flex his muscles. Yawn! How predictable. :(

  188. Josh says:

    @Kirsten,

    Most of SA’s membership consists of older men who sign up to get away from women portrayed by the literary character @SugarySpicey.

    Then we come to SA and harassed by the same kind of women we signed up to get away from.

    Where does that leave us?

  189. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Fly’r – would you mind dropping the Josh/Pirate connection conversation? It seems to enrage him at a time when I was really trying to get him to call off his dogs.

  190. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Jacob – it didn’t sound like you personally wanted to assault her CHILD, but that you were interested in seeing personsal harm brought to her CHILD. In spite how you perhaps intended it, you came across as grossly out of alignment with any reasobable response and frighteningly aggressive. That said by someone who has no ax to grind. So maybe instead of defending yourself, take that as constructive criticism grow, and improve.

  191. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Josh – it’s funny that you would think the warning was only for me after you threatened to put me in the emergency room and repeatedly violate SA TOS with your proxy account (which you openly admitted to) along with other violations.

    Guess Dorky was right, in spite of my very clear and obvious attempt to make peace with you last night, you are incapable of making peace with me. My explanation to B was about as generous toward you, but truthful as to why she should shield her information, as anyone could possibly ask me to be.

    The change of username was not surepticious just more appropriate for my long standing contributions to the board and varied experiences in the bowl.

  192. Josh says:

    @flyR

    I am not sure which “Google” are you searching but the exact phrase only returns 3 results/hits.

    Also, why exactly would you search my name with “pirate”?

  193. Josh says:

    @Kirsten,

    I noted the following yesterday:

    “Josh says:
    October 25, 2014 at 1:50 pm
    “How are you today darling, are you going to behave or are you having one of those kinky days where you’re hoping to be punished?”

    Yawn!

    Pretty soon you’re going to harass me on a regular manner and claim that I am the one dying for your attention? :(”

    After your warning to @SugarySpicey, she showed up as SugarBabyGuru basically to counter my use of “Josh Guru” with the tacit support of none other than flyR and DorkyGuy.

    She has been harassing me every since. I hope to get some respite.

  194. flyR says:

    obviously do not type 124 hits

  195. flyR says:

    Getting the moderator to erase your posts

    Futile – google has seen them, sold them to the government and indexed them for the world to see

    if this sounds strange google

    “seeking arrangement blog” josh pirate (124 hits)

    to see posts from the past.

  196. DorkyGuy says:

    For the record, Petite is gorgeous 😉

  197. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Jacob – you wrote a long rantinh post about wanting to see KMS’ s minor son sexually assaultes by an SD, and that you would endeavor to see that happen – or that’s how it came across to the rest of the blog. Personally, you were never anything but kind and supportive to me. My negative blog experiences did not come from you.

  198. Petite says:

    @Josh
    Lol! Okay, I will get my photo to you

  199. Jacob says:

    @Sugary

    What “threaten . . . to assault” are you referring to?

  200. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Balcone – Josh speaks from experience having overshared another blogger (my) personal information and having then watched Jacob threaten to out KMS and assault her son by taking advantage of personal information she has shared. Except for those two eggregious lapses in judgement, in the years I’ve been on the blog (10x longer than Josh or Jacob) I have never seen anyone else threatened by giving their approximate geography. You’re fine to have shared that information once, just try never to give any information that an obsessed blogger might string together in order to locate, identify, or “out” you. Having been through it, it is very unpleasant.

  201. Josh says:

    @Petite

    “@Josh
    Can I be gorgeous, please please please??”

    You may already be gorgeous but since Josh Guru has not seen your photos, he can’t say the word. 😉

    So either post your profile id or send photos through email. The choice is yours.

  202. flyR says:

    Petite you can’t not be

  203. Josh says:

    @Balcone

    “@Josh How do I contact the admins?”

    It is pretty simple.

    1. First go to a Middle Eastern store and buy a lamp.
    2. Rub it.
    3. A genie will appear.
    4. Tell him to contact the blog admins and remove the post with your location in it.
    5. The exact phrase to use is, “Blog admin, please remove my post with location in it.”

    “Why is it so bad that I mention my home base?”

    Mentioning your home base is not problematic in itself at this time, but it could be if you ended up blogging heavily.

  204. RSD says:

    @Balcone
    cutesy isn’t bad, i like cutesy girls, but maybe most SDs like sexy

    but definitely change the “average” to “athletic”. average means fat

  205. Petite says:

    @Josh
    Can I be gorgeous, please please please??

  206. Lainey says:

    You’re Welc @Balcone

  207. Balcone says:

    @Lainey thanks so much for the detailed responses! I sincerely appreciate it. Maybe that is my problem with my profile, it’s too cutesy and not sexy enough. I’ll revise it now. And I’ll change my body type right now haha. @Josh How do I contact the admins? Why is it so bad that I mention my home base?

  208. Lainey says:

    @Josh

    You can call me gorgeous. I’ll be countering TSs advances with some Tig’oles shortly. 😉

  209. Josh says:

    @Lainey,

    By the way, when I see Miss X, Miss Y and Miss Z contests, I sometimes wonder how some of the contestants made it to the final round. Some of the SA SB’s are more beautiful than the pageant contestants.

  210. Josh says:

    @Lainey,

    Don’t push it. You know that when I see your photos, I will call you gorgeous as well. Have some sensitivity to those whom I have not called gorgeous. OK. 😉

  211. Lainey says:

    @Josh didn’t say she wasn’t. Just realized you’ve said that to nearly EVERY profile you’ve viewed. Lol

  212. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    “@Josh I’m starting to think “gorgeous” is just your go-to word Lol”

    C’mon now. If anyone thinks that @Balcone is not gorgeous then I will have to re-calibrate my gorgeous meter. 😉

  213. Lainey says:

    @Balcone. You may want to revise the “want someone to share it with”.. i meant to refer to the travel not the bed. Lmao. Oh well.

    These are all just suggestions.

  214. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Rebecca – Don’t underestimate a 65+ year old man in the bedroom, it could turn out to be the best srx of your life, he’s had a lot of years to figure out the subtleties of pleasuring a woman. And, with the magic of Viagra he may not be as good as he once was, but he’ll probably be as good once as he ever was. Regarding the allowance, honesty is the best policy. Early on, before sex, after establishing flirty sexual chemistry, but not immediately, just ask: “Can we get the awkward allowance part out of the way? How do you want to deal with that?”

    Regarding Indonesia, I’d flown there to be with a man I met on SA who I’d really fallen in love with. I was going there to see him because he wanted me to move there, or commute to see him every other month while he’s on a two year assignment there. We had an amazing first night, but also got into a pretty nasty fight about the future, then went to sleep. We woke up the next morning to a call that his brother had died. Over the next 24 hours he became an absolute monster – drugs, screaming, raging and parties where he tried to get me to have a threesome with some random prostitute – gross! I tried to be understanding while protecting myself but he directed the full force of his grief on me. He left the next morning so we both packed up and I rode with him to the airport. I had committed to go teach at an orphanage for a week starting the next day, in the jungle in the middle of nowhere, and my BF had committed that he’d make arrangements for where we’d stay while I was teaching since he knows the area and the language. He never did, and then when he was in his grief stricken rage I couldn’t ask him to help me figure it out.

    After I dropped him at the airport I didn’t know where to go so I went and spent the night at his friend’s house (but his friend is a disgusting cooze hound and the place was nasty so I didn’t feel safe there).

    The next day I had a driver hired to take me to the orphanage, but when we got into the jungle in the middle of nowhere the driver pulled over and started yelling at me for more money, and I just lost it. I started balling in the hysterical snot cry sort of way and threw open the car door and I jumped out of the car, grabbed my bag and just started walking down the road, sobbing. The driver felt bad so he convinced me (though he didn’t speak English and I didn’t speak Indonesian) to get back in the car and he dropped me at the nearest hotel which was this over the top gorgeous middle of nowhere villas resort. I didn’t know where to go or what to do so I got a room which turned out to be this amazingly beautiful villa with a private pool for about $300 per night (outrageous prices for Indonesia) and sat by the pool and cried all day until WCSD and Richard from this blog told me to stop wallowing in self pity and figure my shit out (I needed that).

    It was also my birthday. And, the guy I’d flown to see, The Pirate is what I call him, never called to check on me once during the whole week, and went back home and spent the whole week f*cking this nasty skank. (It all ended up playing out in a nasty battle for all the bloggies to read.) The next day I got it sorted out and the trip turned out to be a critical growth week that changed my life, but it was also brutal! The customs agent at LAX looked at my passport photo and asked “What happened to you?”

  215. Lainey says:

    @Josh I’m starting to think “gorgeous” is just your go-to word Lol

  216. Lainey says:

    Sometimes the best days are the ones you don’t plan. I pride myself in being spontaneous and outgoing. Ill try almost anything once! 😉 [inserting wink takes it from literal to flirtatious]

    “I have previously traveled around Europe alone. I am comfortable sleeping in a tent in the middle of the woods without a soul around, or (in a plush king-sized bed at a 5 star hotel, but would love someone to share it with.) I do like to hog covers though. (Hope you don’t mind.)”

    (When I’m not exploring, my time is spent working towards my future goal of running a non-profit. My desire to help others fuels my ambition.)

    Don’t read too much into the innuendos I’ve inserted. It’s a marketing strategy. You are very “cutesie” but most these men need to imagine you in their beds, so you’re simply giving them a slight visual with you words that says I’m capable of being sexy, and sassy. not a prude but not a whore.

  217. Josh says:

    @Balcone

    Never reveal too much information about yourself on this blog. Your post with your id would be deleted by the admins soon, but the one with location will not. You might want to ask admin to delete the post with location reference.

    You are a beautiful, down to earth girl, just the way I like it. If you were in my neck of the woods, I would have definitely contacted you, but alas. :(

  218. Balcone says:

    @Josh thank you for the very nice compliment! And for taking the time to look at my profile. It’s only because I’m traveling for the next couple weeks, and I like to keep active on here. Every time I log on it does seem to bring me to the the attention of guys on the website, and I’m not sure I can turn the location off. Should I put something in my profile for now, or not log on anymore? I honestly am living in the Boston area. I updated my profile, but it will take 24 hours I think to actually show up. I can let you know when it’s approved. As a girl, I like guys with longer profiles, I forget that with guys, they probably prefer shorter ones. Thank you again for helping me.

  219. Lainey says:

    @Balcone

    in case my last “edit” post was confusing

    “There’s no bigger turn on than a man who is secure in himself and in life.

    I’m just looking to enjoy myself with a well-rounded, down-to-earth gentleman who has been bitten by the adventure bug. Live in the moment with me!”

  220. Jj says:

    @Balcone “ditto!! @Josh and @SugarAdvise… you def are not “average” by any means!!! Just say’n….. back to the rafters!!!

  221. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    “Where you claim to live and where you log in from is a red alert.”

    Why?
    People do travel.

    A lot of SDs are often logging in from other countries as their homecountry, so why should it be a red flag if a SB does?

  222. flyR says:

    @Rebecca – Find a picture of a Navy Seal taken out in the field with full gear and stick it in your wallet where it will be “accidentally seen. Oh that’s my brother the Seal, he’s very protective of me .

  223. Lainey says:

    @Balcone love the pics you are super cute!

    But your profile is so redundant. Stick to the one liners and combine them all into one paragraph. Remove the elaboration. Not EVERYTHING needs an explanation. If I were a man I would see your need to elaborate as a sign that you may be over-analytical

    Move the want to travel as opposed to material things to the “what you are looking for” section.
    [] = omit
    () = substitute

    [I don’t really have a specific idea of what I would like. I’m just tired of meeting men who don’t know what they want out of life, don’t have the means to support themselves or not do things they want to do.]

    I want to meet a man who is secure, in himself and in his life. (There’s no bigger turn on than a man who is secure in himself and in life.)

    [I don’t really have the time for a full out relationship,] [I would just like to have some fun dating, and not worry about the future.] (I’m just looking to enjoy myself with a well-rounded, down-to-earth gentleman who has been bitten by the adventure bug. Live in the moment with me!)

    AVOID NEGATIVES

  224. Rebecca says:

    Thank you SugarbabyGuru!! I have been focusing on everything else that currency changing did not occur to me >_<. The man I am meeting is almost 70. I am not having high expectations on sex. He is very sweet and romantic, but sexually, who knows how that will turn out. Yes, I would still take the trip without allowance. Do you have a suggestion on when to ask for it in hand? I don't want to deal with it being wired or Paypaled. I have traveled in the USA to meet someone and he gave it on the 2nd day. He was going to give it in small increments, but knew I wasn't bailing.

    What happened in Indonesia?

  225. SugarAdvice says:

    @Balcone, change body type from “average” to “athletic” and your lot in sugar life will improve

  226. Josh says:

    “If your named after a Car, Purse, Country or even a Fruit. I’m probably not interested.”

    Hmmm,

    If your name is Mercedes, Porche or Pinto, no need to contact him.

    If your name is Greece, Holland or Turkey, no need to contact him.

    If your name is Channel, Gucci or Charles Jourdan, no need to contact him.

    If your name is Cherry, Apple or Coconut, no need to contact him.

  227. Josh says:

    @Balcone

    First of all, you are absolutely gorgeous. So that is not the reason for not getting a decent SD already. You have a very beautiful and genuine smile too.

    Where you claim to live and where you log in from is a red alert.

    Reduce the size of your “About Me” section. I started reading it but then got bored after the first couple of sentences and stopped reading.

    Remove all the references of what you don’t want, and stick to what you want. Once you do that I will help edit the profile further.

  228. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Jacob – I started to respond to point out where you misread, that I said KMS is NOT an expert, and that I was sensitive to your concerns until your last rant where you were viscious about her and threatening to a CHILD. Then I got bored and booked a room at the Holiday Inn Express and ordered a basket of riblets ftom Applebee’s.

    Let it go, Let it go, ladaddeedadeeda.

    Rebecca –

    Re: travel safety:

    1. Make sure the ticket terms say not-cancellable, not-refundable (most coach tickets are) then he can’t do any funny business without it costing him a $200+ change fee (and leaving you with the ability to change it back for the same amount).
    2. Make sure he books you a hotel room, in your name, then call the hotel yourself to confirm and have them put a note in the reservation not to make any changes to the reservation without calling you directly to confirm. Again – makes it harder for him to pull something funny. (Also, have a back up hotel identified and printed out in case of emergencies, I wish to God I’d had that in Indonesia as it would have saved me hundreds of dollars and a full blown emotional melt down on the side of the road.)
    3. Do NOT have him pick you up at the airport. Take a taxi to your hotel at your expense, check in, make friend with the front desk clerk so someone in Spain knows you at least a little, then put your passport in the hotel safe.
    4. Make sure you have Euros before you leave. Keep some in the hotel safe and with you at all times.
    5. “sink the ship” run through all the worst case scenarios and how you’d resolve them. Tell him you’ve given a friend all of his contact information in case he decides to sell you into sex slavery (say it as a joke of course). But, in reality, he lives in Spain, if he wanted a sex slave he could buy one from Eastern Europe or Northern Africa for 1/3 the cost and far less potential media hassle. Odds are he’s not planninh to kidnap you, though he could turn out to be a jerk or a lousey lay, that’s the risk you take. I personally would totally tolerate bad sex with a jerk for an all expenses paid trip to Spain. But, I’m a total travel whore. 😉
    5. Assume you’ll never see the allowance he promised. It’s a real uncertainty. Would you still take the trip without allowance?
    6. Google him six ways from Sunday and leave your findings with a trusted friend.

    Turns out I’ll be in Malaga on the 19th of November. We’ll be Spain buddies for a day.

  229. Elaine says:

    @ Jacob

    “Before I even discovered the blog myself”

    Yesssssss!!! Those were the days!!
    Does something like “undiscover” exist? :-)

    @Rebecca

    Since my SDs are all long distance and I am travelling abroad all the time, you can email me if you need more info: elainesablog at gmail.

    Or you can use it (if needed) as a security backup in Europe.

  230. Josh says:

    Requirement from an SD, NOT ME:

    “If your named after a Car, Purse, Country or even a Fruit. I’m probably not interested.”

    Hahahahaha!!!

  231. Josh says:

    @Lainey, oh no.

    That’s my disposable id. So it’s ok.

    To counter TS’s potentially futile attempt, you may cheer me up with yours? 😉

  232. Lainey says:

    @Balcone post your profile id Babe

  233. Lainey says:

    @Josh the TS is totally going to send nudey pictures your way now. Lol

  234. Balcone says:

    I would take any SB advice too!

  235. Balcone says:

    Any SDs have any advice for my profile? I’m new to this, and I either keep attracting creeps, or really old men. I like older men, but no one over 50. Is my about me too serious?

  236. Jacob says:

    @josh
    You have mail

  237. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    Interesting thought.

    Let’s see if all of us can stop the urge to engage with @Jacob, and see how soon the two ids are banned once again. 😉

  238. RSD says:

    @Lainey, “For two people that have had their ban lifted you sure don’t seem grateful and have obviously learned NOTHING in the few days you were absent.”

    Amen

  239. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Jacob

    You were boring readers with the imaginary “baby farm” idea (although I have to admit it was a good entrance on the blog). You boring readers with your imaginary legal court cases. Show some creativity and post something interesting. Try to post under a different persona though.

  240. Lainey says:

    For two people that have had their ban lifted you sure don’t seem grateful and have obviously learned NOTHING in the few days you were absent. #RoundOfApplause

  241. Josh says:

    @Jacob,

    Haven’t you seen Holiday Inn Express commercials? Anyone who stays at HIE can dispense any kind of advice he/she wants. Maybe SugarySpicey did stay at the same HIE as FB did. Who knows, right?

    I am thinking about taking my dates to HIE now just to gain that edge in the smartness department. 😉

  242. Rebecca says:

    KMS, yes, we have been talking for awhile by text and phone calls. Soon will be video. The tickets have not been booked yet, so it might not even happen. Supposed to book them this week. I do feel safe now, but am still acquiring phone numbers and plans if something goes wrong.

  243. Josh says:

    @Jacob

    “Some of my past SB’s reading the blog are from the days before I even discovered the blog myself. So the issue is not farming but real life relationships and real reputations under defamation attacks.”

    As far as we know, you have an ex-wife, who you claim as your first “participant” in your scheme (whatever “official” name you have for it yet.) You had a failed attempt in recruiting the second participant.

    Let me get this right. You are going crazy because your “past SB’s” reading “defamation” against you and maybe laughing at what is being written about you and your scheme (whatever “official” name you have for it yet.)?

    Lest you start blaming that I am trying to “defame” you, have you realized that the more you write, the funnier you get? 😉

  244. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @KMS
    “@ysplssir…that sounds lovely (: Congrats on finding a nice SD!”

    Thanks! Playful kiss on your cheek before I skip away. Such a great day!!

  245. FatB'StardSA says:

    @SugaryBabyGuru

    I wrote my post before reading yours. The fact that I am wasting time writing about some assholes imaginary law suit on a blog tells me I need to find more hobbies.

    @Kms2014

    I would not worry about going to court yet. Jacob is still waiting to for the new model year BMW’s to come out so he can get a discount on a previous years model. Until then he won’t be able to drive to court to file the case against you.

  246. Josh says:

    @Rebecca

    “Let’s talk about the fact I am supposed to fly to Spain to meet someone for the first time in a couple weeks and might die.”

    Hahahaha! I like your dry sense of humor. It’s not that you would die per se, but “may” become sex slave of some idiot(s) out there.

  247. Kms2014 says:

    I meant, imaginary kangaroo court…

  248. FatB'StardSA says:

    @SugaryBabyGuru

    “It is KMS’ s 1st amendement right to express opinions on a blog.”

    Everyone knows that there are MANY limits to free speech.

  249. Kms2014 says:

    He is trying to take me to kangaroo court, FB.

  250. FatB'StardSA says:

    @ Jocob

    I am not a lawyer but stayed in a holiday in once. How the fuck do you claim defamation of character when you post under a fake identity? You are going to claim damages because imaginary SB’s are not going to take up your imaginary persona’s proposal?

    I am awaiting your edification on these points as I plan to make a fortune suing blog posters, at which point I will also be able to offer 10x the national average in child support.

  251. Rebecca says:

    Can we go back to talking about sugar daddies and babies? These walls of text about how each of you are better than each other and more “mature” really bore me.

    Let’s talk about the fact I am supposed to fly to Spain to meet someone for the first time in a couple weeks and might die.

  252. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Jacob –

    Having testified in federal court on behalf of a business in an internet/forum defamation suit, after nearly five years of heavy involvement in the case, I will tell you, with authority the communications deceny act (which is what governs online forums) is not in your favor.

    Why?

    1. It is KMS’ s 1st amendement right to express opinions on a blog. She never established herself as an expert on you or your “paternity to save the world” scheme, she is just opining. Getting an injunction against opinion is near impossible. Even getting to a court date (as this would be a federal matter handled in the notoriously overburdened Nevada federal court) will take a minimum of two years.

    2. You would need to show actual damages. You just posted that your SA prospects benefitted from the blog and that you were not damaged in anyway from POTENTIAL love interests. Additionally, all comments KMS made were directed at an alias and had no direct damage to you. Do you have evidence of a woman who was prepared to enter a sugar relationship with you, then declined in writing, specifically stating the opinions expressed by KMS?

    3. Your request to subpeona blog records would most likely not be granted. It unduly violates the privacy rights of others, for which you have no necessary cause or claim. In which case, you would have to sue SA yo get those records. SA has no interest in showing that its members have their privacy violated, they would fight you long before you ever got to KMS out of their own economic self interest. Additionally, to even threaten to sue SA is a violation of the SA terms of service.

    I revommend you put on your big boy pants, change your username and profile name and start fresh. Leave your comnents about your life saving semen to your prospective SBs (as it is patently offensive to every woman who reads it for myriad reasond and shows that you are completely ignorant of modern fertility science).

    And finally, do not misquote Sandberg. I’ve dog-eared Lean In cover to cover, in no way would she endorse the kind of vile language you used toward KMS or making babies with a man who threatens a law suit because his feelings got hurt.

  253. Josh says:

    @Jacob

    Here is your acknowledgement that you are indeed farming here:

    “Some candidates even figured out who I was and initiated contacts with me with explicit reference to my blog proposal.”

    I can provide more references if I went back in blog history. But I hope that you will spare me the trouble of doing so.

  254. Josh says:

    @Jacob,

    Even though you continue to assert that you are not trying to “farm” anything here, this is the bottom-line, as I see it.

    1. This is a sugar blog, not a farming ground for your scheme (whatever “official” name you have for it).

    2. You claim that “defamation” hurts your farming.

    3. The reality is that your “fangs” are hurting your farming more than any member’s defamation efforts against you.

    4. Neither the owners of this blog nor the members who come here for entertainment, information or venting have any interest in ensuring that you use this blog for your farming.

    5. Can you please spare us from your demand that you should be allowed to farm here, without being ridiculed?

  255. Josh says:

    @Jacob,

    You CANNOT control when the “relationship” sabotage will kick in. It could be well before she is fully independent from you. Your personality currently does not appear to be conducive to the scheme (whatever “official” name you have for it) you have been promoting here.

    Again, this is a sugar blog, and NOT a farming ground for your scheme (whatever “official” name you have for it). If you peddle softly then you may farm away. But if you continue to show your “fangs” you may not have the kind of success rate you may have wished for.

  256. Josh says:

    @Jacob,

    You CANNOT control when the “relationship” sabotage will kick in. It could be well before she is full independent from you. Your personality is currently does not appear to be conducive to the scheme (whatever “official” name you have for it) you have been promoting here.

    This is a sugar blog, and NOT a farming ground for your scheme (whatever “official” name you have for it). If you peddle softly then you may farm away. But if you continue to show your “fangs” you may not have the kind of success rate you may have wished for.

  257. Elaine says:

    @Jacob

    Please, PLEASE, STOP!!!
    (My ribs start hurting from laughing)

    God if you were not so sad, you would be verry funny in your role of caricature of a succesful businessman.

    I am sure SexyRockstar could use this material for a great comedie!

    “I draft Cease and Desist notices and have my lawyers flesh them out and sign off on them more often than I care for.”
    Haha, why am I not surprised?

    You could better move to LIVE in court when you constantly sue people for such stupid reasons!

    Have you sued all your ex school companions already for being bullied?
    Because with your attitude I am sure they did…..

  258. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    I showed up with several diplomas today for graduating from the sandbox, hoping that I could finally hand them out. Alas, it was not to be today. At least the show is still entertaining, but I’ve always enjoyed the ridiculous.

    On a positive note, my POT is coming to visit next weekend so we can meet for the first time! He’s already wired me $ to have a spa date, and wants to take me clothes shopping to celebrate my new job – I’m so moved. Besides all that he is such a great man with a heart of gold. I can’t wait to spend some solid quality time with him.

  259. Jacob says:

    FlyR,

    Notice, I was away from the blog for a week, yet the attacks on me continued. I even voluntarily refrained from responding to posts from proxies attacking me because I was under the impression that both KMS and I were under ban, so I voluntarily observed the ban even as the filter mechanism doesn’t affect me. That’s the type of honest and conscientious person that I am. Yet what did I get in return? She thought the coast was clear to attack me out in the open hinder own username because I did not respond to earlier vicious lies from proxies.

  260. Josh says:

    @Jacob,

    I am not sure if you put yourself in mother-of-your-child’s shoes when you write stuff like this:

    “That’s why I have been trying to get her to atop defaming me on the blog instead of actually obtsining the court subpoena orders all along the various service providers, the cost of which would then have to be presented to her in a Demand letter, which she probably woukd have no means to repay; at which point I would have to seek court order to to garnish her future wages just to pay back my discovery cost never mind the damage for defamation itself. All she needs to do to stop the train wreck is leaving me alone.”

    This is how it reads from the vantage point of a young girl who opts to become the mother of your child:

    “That’s why I have been trying to get her to stop bad-mouthing me (which any woman will do at her sabotage stage). If I went legal, the cost would then have to be presented to her in a Demand letter, which she probably would have no means to repay (as I would stop my payments to her); at which point I would have to seek court order to to garnish her future wages just to pay back my discovery cost never mind the damage for defamation itself. All she needs to do to stop the train wreck, give my child to me and get the hell out of my life.”

  261. flyR says:

    @Jacob- “I draft Cease and Desist notices …. more often than I care for”

    PLEASE take all this to another place. It is neither our issue or our interest — take as in cease and desist ……. as a demonstration that you are not a lawyer or wannabe lawyer but a considerate human.

  262. Jj says:

    I VOTE for a “Cease and Desist” on the ‘bullshyiet’ for crying out loud!!!!! Give it a long…. forever….. break!!!!!!! You are chilling the blog and kill’n the tempo mood…. shyiet!!!!!!!!!!

  263. Josh says:

    @Jacob,

    Please talk to a lawyer and educate yourself in what a “Cease and Desist notice” means. Like Elaine said earlier, if a judge sees your version of “Cease and Desist notice”, he would have a belly laugh.

    Also, as Elaine said, “C’mon man”!!! 😉

  264. RSD says:

    @Jacob, chill man. It’s a free country and people are free to think and express the opinion that you (or me or anyone) or their ideas are dumb.

  265. Josh says:

    @Jacob,

    It seems that all bloggers, male and female, are asking you to stop…

    Imagine you have a woman interested in your scheme (whatever “official” name you want to call it), and your defamation/court-going tendencies are made plain to her. How many of those young ladies would still want to go through your scheme, and to deal with a “vengeful”, court-going man?

    Every single one of the bloggers have repeatedly called Kms2014 a lovely young lady. And as far as I am concerned she has silly/naughty sense of humor. Many of us have welcomed her back. How many of us have welcomed you back? I am NOT saying that SA should ban you permanently, as I don’t believe on the banning business…but please!!!

    If you don’t get Kms2014’s sense of humor, then I’d suggest that you sign up with a few comedians/humorists to teach you how to respond to different types of senses of humor. THAT would be much cheaper and funner experience than dealing with hackers, lawyers and judges.

    If I were to take a poll, I am sure that 100% of those who respond will side with Kms2014. She is an honorable young woman trying to make the best of her life like the rest of us. Show us the magnanimous side of you, as you claim to be, give her a break AND as importantly give us a break, please!!!

  266. Jj says:

    Oh SunShineie Jocababy…. give it a rest…. “Oh Good Grief…..” *Charlie B…* just say’n….

  267. RSD says:

    @Jacob, just chill man. Stop responding to “attacks”, perceived or real and the “attacks” will end. I think you just enjoy the drama.

  268. Elaine says:

    @Jacob

    A “man” who is threatening a unknown woman on blog by saying he will go to her sons school to out her and “warns” for legal action, when she is only teasing him a little with the weird “family” plans he is boringly repeating every second post (10 x average) and in the same time saying infamous things about her, her son and her SDs, is a person who needs serious help.

    Every post you make only emphasises this.
    You don’t need KMS to make you look like a silly man to potential SBs.
    They only have to read the endless, boring, and sometimes very nasty rants you are posting here for months now.
    c’mon man, nobody takes you for serious anymore!

    Poor little succesful multimillionaire takes an unknown female blogger to court for joking a little on his crazy plans….

    Trying to immagine the faces of the judges, my God that will be priceless!

  269. RSD says:

    @SexyRockStar, “My thing, I did fall in love with an SD…but I didn’t say SHIT until he said it to me.”

    Yeah, love is such a tricky subject. In all honesty, I am a romantic at heart, and have fallen in love with SBs twice before. The first time, I was a sugar/cheating virgin; I met the girl in real life, things just happened, and it was mutual and very intense both emotionally and physically. She wanted me to get a divorce and run off with her on a rather quick schedule (within 3-4 months), and that was impractical (there were a number of objective issues as well, least of which that she was from another country and could not really practice her profession in the U.S.).

    The second time, the SB told me on the third sugar date, “I love you so much,” and I definitely did not share her emotions at the time. She was emotionally and physically clingy, which I managed to tolerate with a bit of trepidation, but after two years I did fall for her. It was a disaster; the in-love part lasted a few months during which the relationship imploded (she got depressed, sex dropped to almost none, there was constant fighting/drama, etc). I put her through her last year of school from that point, mostly out of deep caring, but our experiment with love had failed.

    There were a couple of other times when an SB expressed love, but it was either not perceived by me as real, or not reciprocated, or both.

    But now I find myself again at the doorsteps of love with my new SB. The L word has not been spoken, but it’s there just below the surface of so many conversations. I may have been a little cold at the beginning on subjects such as her being allowed to see other guys, the time frame for the relationship, etc. But now we both talk about a pretty long-term (multi-year / hinting at indefinite) relationship, about longer-term security, about real emotional caring, and about loyalty. The cuddling and caresses are about the most affectionate I’ve ever experienced. And every time I see her, I leave liking her even more. She gives no indication (verbally or through expressions or body language) that I am emotionally or physically smothering her in any way (yes, I do broach the subject with her that I do sometimes fear being too much, but every indication I get is that she prefers a more emotionally caring relationship with me). I do wonder if she wants me to be even more emotionally forthcoming.

  270. Elaine says:

    @RSD

    Because blog posters are a reflection of actual SA population maybe?

  271. RSD says:

    I doubt anyone gets any business (webcam, escort, etc) from the blog. Not sure why so many random people post things like that here.

  272. Elaine says:

    @Lainey

    I know, have always been one of the SBs here trying to help other SBs with their profiles.
    “Old” bloggers can confirm that.

    But as you know damn well, there is a big difference between SBs genuinly seeking advice, and those posting their id with other purposes….

    I have given up on both btw….

  273. Lainey says:

    @Elaine

    SBs post because they are new and the SDs are nice enough to critique their profiles to weed out the unnecessary BS.

    Not to say I haven’t seen connections happen but one had nothing to do with the other.

  274. Elaine says:

    Hmmmm …. is trying to find an “SD” on blog the new trend for some “SB’s”?
    Never saw so many profilenumbers, boob pics and plain “backpage” like adds before here.
    Is this the visualization of the actual state of Sugarworld and SA strategy?
    How sad…

    @Jacob/Sunshine

    Hey! You should be grateful to KMS! See it as a positive weed out tactic!
    You are looking for intelligent female genetic material to mix with you superior genes, no?
    Well, then you can already skip all “future SBs” that approach you referring to your blog posts! :-)

    PS. Free advice from Elaine: If you don’t want your “future SB’s” to link your blog personality to your profile, maybe you should not use the same profilename? :-)

  275. Estefania says:

    Regalo sexo a cambio de 2000 euros y un viaje a California acompañada!!

  276. MizUndaStood says:

    Now that I can’t sleep and am fully caught up on the drama, I see I haven’t missed much. LOL
    My intention to meet a POT while traveling this week was haulted! I have an old bf/ new millionaire flying to meet me here tomorrow. I’m not easy to move on from I guess… Going to entertain this until I get home and have another POT date…

  277. flyR says:

    @Joshie ‘I have never seen sugar mommies on this blog and I believe that there is a very small number of them here.”

    Others recognize that the SD SB tag is generally an indication of interest in participating in events with more than two participants .

  278. flyR says:

    @Sugar Baby Guru – Visualize that you are on a road trip. Perhaps with the gang on the Electric Cool Aid Acid Test or Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

    The vehicle has one bad tire which has a constant, annoying thumping sound. No matter what you do the annoying sound is still there . YOu can curse it, ignore it or have another toke and find a warm friend .

  279. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Josh – I am trepidatious in saying yes and moving ahead. Last time I did so you came back with some pretty awful (and rather personal) venom and clawed me with the olive branch you’d pretended to extend. But, in reality, except for “Novelgate” (which actually damaged me in real life) you’re just words on an internet page written by a stranger, and it’s ridiculous to keep baiting each other. And, maybe if we called a truce, you’d stop hating me and I could rescucitate my novel, which I’d like.

  280. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Dorky – As a newly dubbed Guru it behooves me to practice my Zen and try one last time. 😉

    And, I’ll admit that Josh’s screaming entrance onto the blog, saying that women should behave like Chinese women, not expecting to be loved or treated kindly just happy that a man will feed them (an aggressive paraphrase because I don’t have the correct phone to go back and find the actual post and I’m trying to characterise my perception) set me off.

    First: because I’d just been in Asia and had talked with a variety of native women only to realize their expectations and experiences were remarkably similar to the American experience. So, his statement was just a bunch of Reditt BS.
    Second: because, as you’ll remember, The Pirate thought it was fine (and I should be okay with) him banging third world Asian prostitutes while he was on assignment (and attemptedly in my presence because his brother had died so I should be understanding) because according to him “trafficking is just made up Oprah bullshit” and “they don’t expect to be treated better, they’re just happy not to be sleeping on a mat in a rice patty.”

    So, I too may have been unfair, leading to a nuclear proliforation which in no way excuses “Novelgate”. But, it does highlight to me that until “Novelgate” I wasn’t exactly an angel.

  281. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey,

    Are you interested in moving ahead on a positive note or just (predictably) jumping on my with you and your proxy DorkyGuy?

  282. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Josh –

    See, this is where YOUR perception has clouded reality. Many people, multiple times, have commented on how funny I am but you can’t read it because you’re so caught up in being angry with me and you have this idea of who I am being in conflict with who YOU have decided I SHOULD be.

    But, it turns out, you don’t actually THINK I have a potty mouth (which again, I don’t take offense to, just use to Iillustrate that you have created a super villain of me in your head, and then incorrectly ascribe behaviors to that chariacature, just as you accuse me of doing to you.)

    Josh says:October 25, 2014 at 8:59 pm @SexyRockstar has a silly sense of humor, which DOES NOT come across as potty-mouth.The specific reference is more like cum-talk, which I have rarely objected to when it came from you. Go back to the previous blog posts and you will find where you were potty-mouthing against me …”

    I deleted the post about Dorky because you and I both know even YOU don’t really think I have proxies. Why? To what gain? I say everything I want to directly and you can go back years and find him here, or him and I fighting.

    So, I think it comes down to my jokes referencing you masturbating with various fatty oils, and the like, to which you take offense (though are my jokes any worse than the CRUEL things you’ve said about my appearance, despite all testimony to the contrary “chimp tits” – even creating proxies, which you’ve admitted to, for the sole purpose of mocking me).

    For the record, I do NOT think Josh masturbates with Cheetoh grease.
    1. Because I love Cheetohs and any fan of the Cheetah knows Cheetohs leave wicked crumbs which would abraid delicate penile skin.
    2. While greasy, the Cheetoh does not produce enough viscosity for effective masturbatory efforts.
    I’m sure Josh uses only the finest Johnson & Johnson.

    See, that was a joke, a silly, sarcastic joke to which you take more offense than is reasonable given the nature of the blog.

    How many times has Softi called me a bitch? – Hundreds. How many times have I even cared that he did so – zero, because we’re bantering. That’s how bantering works.

    If you can dish it by calling me a prostitute, a lesbian, a man hater, a hag, and “chimp tits” you’d better be prepared to take it. The difference is, I assume it’s all a joke, well except for THE incident.

  283. DorkyGuy says:

    Spicey, what you are attempting is a hopeless endeavor. He will continue to troll you for as long as he is a troll… which will be until he grows up.

    Trying to reason with him will only incite him. He is not reasonable.

    You could say “the sun is hot” and provide peer reviewed articles to support your statement, and he would disagree just because you said it… and call you a sun hater for saying it.

    SA seems fine with a troll and fraud controlling the blog, so that’s that.

    If you want to hang out and take the abuse, remember… SA doesn’t care about your contributions to the blog over the years. At least not enough to step in and stop the abuse.

  284. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey

    @SexyRockstar has a silly sense of humor, which DOES NOT come across as potty-mouth.

    The specific reference is more like cum-talk, which I have rarely objected to when it came from you.

    Go back to the previous blog posts and you will find where you were potty-mouthing against me while tag-teaming with your proxy DorkyGuy.

  285. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Josh, Softi is an excellent example of perception. He often makes references to SBs being dumb and women being portapotty equivalents. There is no font for humor, and he never later clarifies that he was joking. Why can his humor be accepted as sarcastic button-pushing and just assumed that he doesn’t hate all women but mine can’t?

    You’ve heard me in real life, you know I have both a dry and a silly sense of humor, I’m sarcastic and acerbic with a smile. Maybe you’re not giving me as much latitude as you give others when it comes to sarcastic ribaldry?

    Same goes with calling me potty mouth. Rockstar just talked about having someone come in her eye. Why doesn’t she get labled potty mouth (not that I care about that term, I find it funny actually because I DO have a rather nautical vocabulary)? But, do you see how unfair you are toward me?

  286. Josh says:

    @Petite

    “@Josh
    There are many SDs who are looking for SBs who want to play with their wives/gfs as well. If she’s bi, I’d leave it.”

    If she is complaining about not getting any bites, then the best thing is to go for the bigger market segment, that is, heterosexual white men. She can always put Women back in, once she has secured some sugar, and has gained confidence in this lifestyle.

    People get too hung up on what they want to do without realizing–and catering to–the broader market need to keep the lights on, so to speak.

  287. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey

    I will quote you posts that can be perceived as man-hating when I find time/interest in going back to the older blog items, or maybe FB can help, or maybe FB can help, or maybe FB can help.

  288. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Dorky – when in doubt about her identity, call her Princess/Baby/Honey and tell her how pretty she is.

  289. Petite says:

    @Josh
    There are many SDs who are looking for SBs who want to play with their wives/gfs as well. If she’s bi, I’d leave it.

  290. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Josh – the “persona” you keep referring to is me, you just hear it in a tone that sets you off. So, I ask a third time. Here, on this blog, what makes you think I hate men? Examples, explanations, anything more than just a gut reaction?

    Perhaps your perception could use an adjustment.

  291. flyR says:

    an unattached man

  292. Josh says:

    @Distany,

    Unless you are getting some interest from women and you want to definitely be with women as your sugar mommies, you might want to remove women from the “Interested in” field.

    I have never seen sugar mommies on this blog and I believe that there is a very small number of them here.

  293. flyR says:

    @Distany

    Josh offered some excellent suggestions .

    A couple more

    I prefer unattached an man (says all you need to say)

    close with an action line

  294. DorkyGuy says:

    LOL, like FB, mention my name 3 times, and I will come?

    @Everyone~ How is it that nobody picked up on the “TS” prefix in Rachael’s email address? It popped out to me like… well like a penis.

    @Josh~ I guess the obsessing over DorkyGuy continues, as I’ve been mentioned a few times today. It’s alright Josh, I understand. 😛 This blog is all you’ve got, so you can have it.

    @Friends~ It’s time for me to throw my hat back in. I have been very busy talking to SBs so as to find one or two to spend the winter taking in all sorts of comedy, theater, ballet, and other fun stuff. I have multiple M&G’s set for this week, so wish me luck :)

    I haven’t even started the dates yet, and I don’t have proper time for this place. Just keeping track of POTs and conversations requires a spreadsheet. I can see why the active SDs don’t post very often.

    Hopefully a very exhausted and happy DorkyGuy will pop in from time to time.

    @SugarBabyGuru~ I heartily approve the name change! I think SD Guru would probably get a kick out of it too.

  295. Josh says:

    SugarySpicey,

    “Great Josh, so then, what makes you think I hate men? Why do you keep saying that about me?”

    Sweetheart, you may not be a “man-hater” in your charming, real-life person but the SugarySpicey persona is.

    Keep in mind, perception is reality.

  296. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Great Josh, so then, what makes you think I hate men? Why do you keep saying that about me?

  297. SugarySpicey says:

    RSD – regarding my “deflect” advice. A wise SB would never pull that out in the middle of a date leaving herself to appear flakey. But, a woman who feels pressure to go further than she is comfortable can use that type of approach as a date is winding down (after 1-2 hours, on the first date only) in order to show that she is interested and excited, but not immediately available for sex.

    As far as the comment about witholding sex as a strategy, I find the idea foolish.

    Why deprive yourself of a perfectly good orgasm, unless:
    1. You’re dating a selfish SD who has no interest in your sexual gratification (in which case, why are you dating that creep?)
    2. You are dating a man you gets sexual gratification off being deprived of sex (there aren’t a lot of these men, but it’s a kink that exists and it leads to amazing sex. Google orgasm denial and you’ll find entire forums dedicated to the concept).
    3. You are dating a man with whom having sex at that moment could harm your physical or emotional well being (I.e. he’s cheating on you with a 3rd world prostitute or is an abusive lover whom you are trying to unwind from).

  298. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey

    Sweetheart, thanks for posting with your more recognized id. I have NOTHING against you. Let’s keep the blog on a positive note.

    I wish that you can bring your real-life charming person to the blog and, drawing from your personal experience, help SBs who are trying to deal with 90% of the SDs.

  299. Josh says:

    Distany,

    1. Change your budget to Practical. You don’t want to put Minimal even if you know that you would settle for Minimal with the right guy.

    2. Remove the second and the fourth photos from you profile.

    3. Try the following texts in your profile, send messages to a tons of SDs that meet your criteria, and report back in 1-2 weeks if you have better quality responses, and more importantly, if you have secured an arrangement of you liking.

    About Me

    I like to try new cuisines, go to art museums and to go for scenic drives. I like seeing the other person happy so I will do things that I have never tried or am not good at to see them smile…either from laughing at how bad I am doing at it or from having a great time. My schedule gives me great flexibility in how long I can be gone for. I can be a friend, lover (if chemistry is right), or what ever else you need.

    What I’m looking for

    More than anything, I like to meet a respectful man. I like older men as they have proven to me that they have more experience and finesse to appreciate and respect a woman like me. I prefer to have an unattached male but I am flexible on it.

  300. SugarySpicey says:

    Josh, I’m not a proxy or pretending to be anyone. I changed my avatar, first, to make it clear that the person making the posts is the same as before, with a new and improved username. I think you are the only person who didn’t notice that as I’ve received half a dozen emails today applauding the new direction and I already made that clear this morning.

    YOU picked at me this morning, and then again when you called me a man hater, which is clearly engaging me.

    So, I ask, as we CLEARLY have had a miscommunication from the very first moment you stepped onto the blog, why do you continue to post that I’m a manhater?

    That couldn’t be further from the truth, and perhaps if we could get past that misunderstanding you could see me as a human and make a little progress.

    I’ll note: I found the email from March where you apologized for sharing my personal information on the blog. I am trying to put that anger behind me, especially in light of your recent posts to Jacob where you now think it is wrong to “out” someone in this type of forum.

  301. Josh says:

    @SugarBabyGuru

    Sweetheart, get over yourself. I don’t want to “engage” you at all.

    The reason is that until proven otherwise, I take you as yet another proxy created by SugarySpicey. And I suspect that you and your posse will jump on me fairly soon.

    Why did you retire DorkyGuy?

  302. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Josh, I see that you want to engage me on the topic of being a man hater. Okay, ask away, I’ll answer, and the blog can decide if I come across as a bitter man hater.

    If you feel my answers are inconsistent with past views, probe on the inconsistency, and we can discuss the issue further. Like adults, who treat each other with respect.

    You asked me to be charming and warm, how about you put down your dukes and talk to me like a person instead of taking pot shots?

  303. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Rockstar – while sharing your videos on this site is a great way to drive 100-300 video views (nice but not game changing) you’d be permanently linking your career to sugar. Do you want to do that?

    Additionally, learn from my experience – there are bloggers on this board who will, and have, taken blog participation and used it intentionally to attempt to damage and expose other bloggers.

    I’d recommend sharing the videos, by email, to people who ask privately.

  304. Lainey says:

    @SexyRockstar DO IT! I, d def go watch them. Post it like this
    []no spaces-insert link here[]

    Learned that from the Dorkster!

  305. SexyRockstar says:

    @Lainey
    Just think “WWSRD”- what would sexy rockstar do?

    Does anyone know am I allowed to self-promote here? I mean, maybe because there was Miss Web Cam eating your CUM on here. Psshh, thinking of posting my youtube link on here….HAHA. I am about to do a video on “What girls look like while doing makeup”
    I also have:

    -How to use a public bathroom
    -Girls on Football Sunday
    -How to pick up a girl at a bar
    -Why I hate people
    -and these ones where I drink a shit ton of red bull with a different person in the video and we lip synch the first song that comes on pandora.

    Now of course these arint the actual titles of the videos..I don’t wanna be banned for self promotion. HAHAHA

  306. Lainey says:

    @SexyRockstar takes a sexy biatch to know a sexy biatch. Now all I need is a bit of your humor and I’m golden. If you could bottle that up, how much would you charge me? Lol

  307. Lainey says:

    Thanks @FlyR xo

  308. flyR says:

    @Lainey – good luck

  309. SexyRockstar says:

    You’re sexy and fun, so you will

  310. Lainey says:

    @SexyRockstar @RSD Thanks guys. He’s so ideal *for me. Like it’s crazy. Hopefully I can turn him on to the world of sugar.

  311. Lainey says:

    @SexyRockstar @RSD Thanks guys. He’s so ideal of me. Like it’s crazy. Hopefully I can turn him on to the world of sugar.

  312. Lainey says:

    @RSD well yes when you put it that way 100% AGREED! Lol. No one needs that extra BS

  313. RSD says:

    @Lainey, my point is that I’d rather be treated well by someone who is not madly in love with me than be with someone who is madly in love with me but ruins my life with clinginess and drama.

    Also, hope it works out!!

  314. Lainey says:

    @Joshy thanks. Understood. 😉

  315. SexyRockstar says:

    @Lainey

    GET IT GUUURRRLLLL. I am so happy for you!!!

    @Josh
    I am sorry. It’s like bumping into your ex and you look super sexy. You want to know what they think. HAHa.

  316. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    “Wordy” is NOT a problem when it is tastefully done.

    I won’t be requesting your private photos. So my apologies in that area.

  317. Lainey says:

    Soo was supposed to have a meet off the site last night but he’s a married 1st timer so I was more than prepared for it to get pushed back to another day.

    It all worked out though because I totally meet this HOT 40+ gentleman a few weeks ago. We hung out last week and again last night. So after an amazing night I came out and said “You should be my daddy!” Bold, I know! But when I want something I go for it!

    Told him to sleep on it. Kissed him goodbye and left. He then texted saying if he didn’t have to be up early with his kids he’d beg me to come back. So we made plans to see each other tomorrow. Anticipating his decision. Wish me luck! Lol

  318. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @FlyR – we are definitely on the same page. You sound like a gentleman.

  319. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    I dig that.

  320. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @Bentley
    “Love the writeup…Been trying misstravel but no luck… I’m that SD that experienced a SB who turned our travel overseas a disaster.. So this hits directly those SB who let their travel get to there head… I do travel significantly and always looking for the right SB travel companion.”

    Wow…there are a lot of entitled women leaving bad impressions by the sounds of it. You need a palate cleanser…send me a ticket…
    😉

  321. Lainey says:

    Thanks @Joshy for checking it out for me. I didn’t know if it was too wordy or not. What about my pics?

    If any other SDs have the time to critique my profile it’d be greatly appreciated (keyword: quadruple)

    Also all my pics are private so to preserve your anonymity, I won’t be doing my usual “private pic screening” and will be giving ALL ACCESS to anyone that requests it. (So you’ll simply fall into the requests I get daily)

    Thanks In Advance

  322. Josh says:

    @SexyRockstar

    Well, you chose not to listen to the Guru :( but hey you’re are an independent gorgeous woman. Do as you wish…

  323. Lainey says:

    @RSD I’m a perfect example of “love” not being an action. I do all those things and have loved no one but myself. Lol. Although I’m sure the men receiving have taken it as love

  324. flyR says:

    Sexy Rockstar – odds are 50% that he will rethink his position and contact you

  325. flyR says:

    @ys__pls… “Agreed…and I don’t send sexy pics before a first meeting as too many have proved disingenuous and had no intention of entering an arrangement. I like to think I’m a classy woman and I expect to be treated as such. Once we meet and there’s chemistry though….it’s a hell of a lot of fun. Worth the wait I’d say.”

    That’s a great approach

    I guess it depends on the word “sexy”

    My take is that you need profile pictures that allow the potential to visualize what you look like. That’s doesn’t mean more titillating than you would wear to the office or cocktails of the beach. Private might be a little bit more but nothing you would not want to see published.

    I would assume that anything posted here will be available to a prospective husband, employer, jilted lover, federal government etc. It’s also very possible that anything you put on the internet will stick with you for the rest of your life.

  326. SexyRockstar says:

    Thats good.
    @Josh
    I broke—I messaged him. Apparently I broke his heart. Now I feel bad. He won’t do a sugar relationship, damn. I wish he wasn’t marriage minded tho, him and I have a fantastic connection. Oh well. If we did get married, we’d still run into the same issue: we are both on AM. But that website is a joke. NO SDs. I kind of just sit there and make fun of all the broke dudes on there.

  327. RSD says:

    On the topic of love, my last SB and I always disagreed. She saw love as a word, I saw it as an act. If someone says “I love you” but treats you like crap and uses “love” to control you, their love is worth crap. If they don’t say the words but treat you like you’re special to them, make an effort to see you and make things work, keep the promises they make and forgive the shortcomings of their partner, that is love. Maybe this is not Hollywood love, but it is RSD love.

  328. SexyRockstar says:

    @Jacob

    thats why I am a 1K p4p kinda gal. You get sex and comedy night all at once!

  329. DallasSB says:

    Hey Babies and Daddies, just jumping back into the bowl, but it seems like the same old games here on the blog.

  330. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @FlyR
    The operative word in productive rather than attractive. The little head is only interested in escaping to the promised land at the earliest moment. If there is no downside why not. The key is groundrules and managing expectations. If you have sent pictures your gynecologist would recognize there a pretty good chance he will expect sex within 30 minutes of meeting

    Agreed…and I don’t send sexy pics before a first meeting as too many have proved disingenuous and had no intention of entering an arrangement. I like to think I’m a classy woman and I expect to be treated as such. Once we meet and there’s chemistry though….it’s a hell of a lot of fun. Worth the wait I’d say.

  331. SexyRockstar says:

    @Bentley

    Do you have your SB travel overseas for a first meet?

  332. Bentley says:

    Love the writeup…Been trying misstravel but no luck… I’m that SD that experienced a SB who turned our travel overseas a disaster.. So this hits directly those SB who let their travel get to there head… I do travel significantly and always looking for the right SB travel companion.

  333. SexyRockstar says:

    @Jacob

    I am beautiful. LOL, I just got a message 5 minuets ago

    “My god, you are so beautiful. Your face is so innocent. Maybe I fuck your face? I would love to cum all over and in your eyes”

    I have a feeling getting cum IN my eye might not be a great idea. IDK, sounds like it would sting.

  334. SexyRockstar says:

    WELCOME BACK KMS!!

    xoxoxoxoxoxoxo ((hugs))

  335. Josh says:

    @Jacob

    “@Josh
    1. I did not wish to have email exchange with KMS because nothing good can come out of such interaction for me, whereas it might become highly rewarding for her ;-)”

    Do you realize how conceited this sounds to a reader? She IS a lovely lady. You two got off on a wrong start.

    “2. After months of correcting her lies and misconceptions, and her insistence on repeating the same lies. It became clear those lies were deliberate defamation attempts. So I gave her the Cease and Desist notice, which should have made it amply clear that legal action is among the cards.”

    Wong “Cease and Desist” notice my friend. You could have just skipped the son references and gone to legal notice. In the scheme of things THAT might have been much more “honorable” thing to do.

    “3. I take public defamation attack seriously because I have very strong reason to believe that some of my past and present SB’S are reading the blog. Some candidates even figured out who I was and initiated contacts with me with explicit reference to my blog proposal.”

    Do you realize that you are using the SA blog for a purpose NOT intended by SA? SA blog is not a farming ground for your scheme. Therefore, you might want to peddle softly.

    And please come up with an “official” name of your scheme so that we can refer to it according to your liking instead of offending you when we make up names for it.

  336. SexyRockstar says:

    @Jacob

    1K p4p, and you are more then welcome to be an asshole to me on the blog.

    xoxo <3

  337. Josh says:

    1. Let’s get this love (bull)shit out of the way of true happiness.

    2. DEMAND that men respect women and women respect men.

    3. Be happy.

    4. The idiotic question “does he love you?” in Hollywood movies must be replaced by “does he respect you?”

    5. 😉

  338. SexyRockstar says:

    I kind of want to say

    “you two should go out for drinks, have sex, and say it while you’re making sweet love to him…then blame it on the alcohol. It worked for a rapper”

  339. Josh says:

    You got all bases covered in the post.

    Both love and shit are four letter words. 😉

  340. SexyRockstar says:

    @Josh

    are you married? there is a girl from AM who posted on a blog that no one responded to about love and stuff like that. She is in love with the man that she cheats on her husband with…and he is married as well. How do you think she should go about telling him? She kind of wants to know if he actually does care about her or whatever.

    My thing, I did fall in love with an SD…but I didn’t say SHIT until he said it to me.

  341. Josh says:

    @Kirsten,

    For whatever it is worth, I believe that there are a group of real and proxy man-hating bloggers whose goal in life is to dictate the narrative on this blog.

    Please note SugarBabyGuru’s posts. I have a feeling that she is soon going to go potty-mouth, will try to pick fights with me and will pollute the blog atmosphere, the same way the other potty-mouth blogger did a few days ago.

    Predictably flyR is her posse and I am waiting for DorkyGuy and couple other bloggers to show up any time, start swinging, and jump on me. :(

    Thanks

  342. flyR says:

    @ys_pls_sir2, “Why do some POTs think it’s attractive to pressure woman about sex on a first date?”

    The operative word in productive rather than attractive. The little head is only interested in escaping to the promised land at the earliest moment. If there is no downside why not. The key is groundrules and managing expectations. If you have sent pictures your gynecologist would recognize there a pretty good chance he will expect sex within 30 minutes of meeting

  343. Josh says:

    You have a point. Select one of the three gorgeous face shots. 😉

  344. SexyRockstar says:

    They need to see how beautiful I am tho…

  345. Josh says:

    @RSD, I had written a few points but was not sure if I should post them or not.

    @Jacob,

    As one of the bloggers who is against permanent bans, please allow me to say:

    1. Yes, Kms2014 posts were “annoying” to you because you did not appreciate her sense of humor. She has a very silly/naughty sense of humor.

    2. You have been around long enough to know that she was able to crawl under my skin too in a totally different context.

    3. The blog atmosphere was hurting so I chose to communicate with her through email to see where she was coming from.

    4. We were able understand/appreciate each other’s senses of humor and I consider her a friend and I believe that she does too.

    5. You could have contacted her directly, off blog, and would have found her to be a lovely young woman.

    6. That would have also meant that the blog environment stayed positive.

    7. I suggested exactly the same to you many times until you made is very clear that such suggestion was not appreciated.

    8. As far as I recall, her posts (against you) were within the context of what you posted, voluntarily.

    9. You decided to start discussing stuff about her personal life, especially about her son. That is TOTALLY AGAINST THE BLOG RULES, and you saw that no one, I mean not a single one of the bloggers supported you in that.

    10. However, based on the above posts, you believed that those were “warning shots” before going legal?

    11. That is totally nutcase. Why would anyone take things so seriously on this blog to have personal enmity with anyone, and start talking about the court of law?

    12. I do remember you making similar but very brief legal threat against me. I backed off from that line of argument, and I thank God that I was not served a summons because you went too far with me.

    13. Please understand that this blog is a service provided by SA for information and entertainment of their members.

    14. Please also understand that posting on this blog is a PRIVILEGE and not a right.

    15. SA has been very lenient in enforcing their blog rules.

    16. Let’s not push their patience, please.

  346. Josh says:

    @SexyRockstar

    The main photo is great. If I were you I would keep the main photo, the RS photo and the avatar photo. Remove the rest. They are just showing your beautiful face. But nothing special.

    The other three mentioned above rock big time.

  347. RSD says:

    @Jacob, please stop discussing this nauseating topic of whatever issues you have with KMS and vice versa. Unless other bloggers really want to hear more on the subject…

  348. RSD says:

    @flyr, “Some of it depends on what’s happened prior to the first meeting. Quality of conversations, depth, sharing of personal information etc.”

    I guess I don’t invest much effort prior to the first meet. If the SB looks attractive to me and I like her profile and see potential (this applies to about 2% of all profiles I view), then I suggest a meeting.

  349. RSD says:

    @KMS, ” Men wanting to meet for dinner at their hotel…that usually means they want dessert upstairs, in their hotel room :-/”

    Not always. I like hotel restaurants because they tend to attract an out of town clientele and is less risky for getting caught, so I often suggest hotel restaurants for first dates with no intention of bedroom activities. But then again, I am not “usual”.

  350. Josh says:

    @Rachael

    “I am 6ft, curvy, 42Dd, 6inch.”

    Wrong site to post but whatever…

    What is “6inch”? The possibilities are:

    1. You heels.
    2. Length of your labia majora.
    3. Depth of your vagina.
    4. Length of your penis.

    I am sure that some of the SDs here will take you up on the cum eating service. 😉

  351. SexyRockstar says:

    @Josh…I have a lovely topless picture on SA. But, you can’t see shit. Not in Radio Shack tho. Let me know what you think.

    e2c08488

  352. Josh says:

    @SexyRockstar

    NO! That would be the most honorable thing to do. 😉

  353. SexyRockstar says:

    OMGGGG

    So, I was on Match.com ((I wanted a real life boyfriend at one point in my life)) and met this WONDERFUL man. We went on dates for a few months, slept together, but he wanted to get married. He’s divorced with three kids…and my two kids…ugh, too many kids. Plus, he has all girls…so do I. I would need like 12 SD’s in order to give them the life that they deserve :) So needless to say, I told him best of luck. And I adore him, but he isn’t what I am looking for. Marriage…HAHA. Yeah no. I blame that on the Sugar world 😉

    Anyways…I just found him on A.M. bawhahahaha. Should I message him?

  354. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @Josh
    “Somewhere the logic is mixed up in women’s. They think that if they withhold sex somehow a bad man will turn into good and WORSE a good man will respect them more if they played sex witholding games.

    All of them received the memo that witholding sex is only applicable to virgin women. But all of them ignored it. ;)”

    I agree. I don’t think that withholding will make them better or more respectful, and I don’t judge anyone for simply wanting to have sex on a first date. My issue lies in pressing the issue once I’ve stated the parameters. It does help weed out the SDs that I have no interest in pursuing.

    In reality, I have bended my rule on occasion once we established that we had chemistry and I felt respected by him.

  355. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @RSD:

    “I’ve talked about this before and many people on the blog don’t like what I say on the topic, but for me the first date is to establish if physical attraction and personal chemistry exist, and that an arrangement can work. Then I sleep on it and give the SB a chance to think it over also — no pressure and no expectations. It’s not just to see if the SB looks like her pics and then take her to a room for sex. It’s to see if I like her as a person enough to make it work for a meaningful period of time. But then again I’m not looking for a quick fling but longer-term arrangements.”

    Exactly.

  356. flyR says:

    My impression is that there’s a lot more young women here who are pretty casual about the “relationship” and almost see SA as a credit line extender. I usually see a significant increase in unsolicited inquiries near the end of the month when rent is due.

  357. flyR says:

    Some of it depends on what’s happened prior to the first meeting. Quality of conversations, depth, sharing of personal information etc. My two best experiences here have been opposites

    4th or 5th meeting with one – she had met (truly) roughly 25 for coffee previously

    other

    halfway through first meet with other (we had agreed that there was no promise of sex (or sugar) )

    Part of the difference was that the first was older, a mother and also hoping to find a co-parenting partner (although not discussed at the time)

    The first made it quietly apparent that she was both passionate and sensual early in the process which offered some assurance that this was not a tease and run .

  358. Josh says:

    “How are you today darling, are you going to behave or are you having one of those kinky days where you’re hoping to be punished?”

    Yawn!

    Pretty soon you’re going to harass me on a regular manner and claim that I am the one dying for your attention? :(

  359. Josh says:

    @RSD

    “I’ve found that the ones with potential are the ones that just feel natural from the beginning, sex progresses quickly, and SB & SD are both happy. If I am debating whether or not to sleep with an SB, there is something wrong with her or the relationship that will make it not work beyond a few weeks max.”

    Somewhere the logic is mixed up in women’s. They think that if they withhold sex somehow a bad man will turn into good and WORSE a good man will respect them more if they played sex witholding games.

    All of them received the memo that witholding sex is only applicable to virgin women. But all of them ignored it. 😉

  360. RSD says:

    @SugarBabyGuru, Sounds like your system works for you, but I’m not sure it would work on me. “Unfortunately, my friend Julie just texted,” to me means it won’t work because the SB doesn’t have her life in order enough to set aside 1-2 uninterrupted hours for me.

  361. RSD says:

    @Rebecca, you should have referred the guy to backpage

  362. RSD says:

    @ys_pls_sir2, “Why do some POTs think it’s attractive to pressure woman about sex on a first date?”

    I’ve talked about this before and many people on the blog don’t like what I say on the topic, but for me the first date is to establish if physical attraction and personal chemistry exist, and that an arrangement can work. Then I sleep on it and give the SB a chance to think it over also — no pressure and no expectations. It’s not just to see if the SB looks like her pics and then take her to a room for sex. It’s to see if I like her as a person enough to make it work for a meaningful period of time. But then again I’m not looking for a quick fling but longer-term arrangements.

  363. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @Rebecca
    “I experienced this earlier this week!!! He messaged me one morning and we immediately made plans for dinner the same night which I never do, but he was only in town then. He said to meet him at his hotel. I said, “Uhhh I am not meeting you at a hotel. Pick a place for dinner.” He said he “might” make a reservation for dinner at the hotel’s restaurant inside. Then he sent me photos of his suite saying we should have dinner in there so I won’t be “stressed”. What? I am not married. I will be fine having dinner in public. The whole thing was creepy. I told him I am not meeting him there and can’t stay overnight anyways, so he said we should reschedule then, acting like the reason I wasn’t going into the suite was because I was “stressed”. ???
    What a waste of time.”

    High-fiving you.

  364. flyR says:

    @sugarbabyguru – welcome back

  365. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @Rachel that’s about the saddest post I’ve ever read. I genuinely hope that you someday find a little self respect.

  366. Petite says:

    I’m scared, daddy :(
    This lady said she wants to eat my cum….

  367. flyR says:

    @rebecca –

    Gold star for the week (given your goals)

    you did not reward bad behavior (in light of your profile and statements) or put yourself in a bad place. Yes there are a number of SB who will virtually assure if not promise sex at the first meeting. It’s both competition, but also helping you to select the right SD candidates.

  368. flyR says:

    @Rachel – You are on the wrong site . Good bye have a nice forever….

  369. Rachael says:

    Hey sexy.

    I am in quite a rough spot, and need your help! I am very honest, I am a hard worker with a 9 to 5 job…. but it seems good things hardly ever pay off.

    I am offering webcam shows to anyone who will donate money to my paypal account. (tslivinglegend@gmail.com)
    I really have no limits. I am very very openminded and can be dirty.

    I am also willing to send you things for a donation. Used panties, used panty hose, bras, anything. Or, take video of eating cum youve sent to me.

    Just add money to my paypal account. Once I see the funds we can schedule a time for anything you wish.

    The more hardcore the more funds I request. The bare minimum is for nude pics.

    If you are just a super nice guy and want to help a girl out, thats great too!!

    I am 6ft, curvy, 42Dd, 6inch.

  370. Rebecca says:

    “Rant alert….

    Why do some POTs think it’s attractive to pressure woman about sex on a first date? I lay it out clearly, with no ambiguity. If your strategy is to get in my pants quickly, you’re going about it all wrong. Making me feel like my worth resides between my legs without any consideration for the brain I have in my pretty head is a lousy strategy and no, your wallet is not incentive enough to circumvent the ‘getting to know me’ clause.

    Yes, I get that ‘arrangements’ are about filling sexual needs. But respect the first date rule. The measure of a man is not his dick or his wallet. It’s his respect for women. Write it down if you can’t remember it.

    Rant over.”

    I experienced this earlier this week!!! He messaged me one morning and we immediately made plans for dinner the same night which I never do, but he was only in town then. He said to meet him at his hotel. I said, “Uhhh I am not meeting you at a hotel. Pick a place for dinner.” He said he “might” make a reservation for dinner at the hotel’s restaurant inside. Then he sent me photos of his suite saying we should have dinner in there so I won’t be “stressed”. What? I am not married. I will be fine having dinner in public. The whole thing was creepy. I told him I am not meeting him there and can’t stay overnight anyways, so he said we should reschedule then, acting like the reason I wasn’t going into the suite was because I was “stressed”. ???
    What a waste of time.

  371. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Hello Yes Please, these men are confused, having been badly trained by inexperienced women. Don’t focus on what the little head wants, the little head is what gives you the power. Encourage the little head to do the thinking, establish ground rules for the arrangement you want, and set meetings with a hard stop so that sex is not possible. Teach him how to respect you, playfully, while increasing his desire.

    Hand on the thigh, softly Iin his ear, “I am so excited to begin our arrangement, it turns me on to know how eager you are for us to enjoy each other.(Now back away and look soft and contrite). Unfortunately, my friend Julie just texted that she is in the parking lot and I promised to drive her car to the airport then take it to the garage tomorrow. Would you like to meet for coffee on Wednesday on my lunch hour?”

  372. SugarBabyGuru says:

    True Fly’r thank you for clarifying, my list was exclusive categories not Iinclusive. All of my SDs were friends. A man who only wanted sex wouldn’t be compatible with the type of arrangement I enjoy.

    Of course, eagerly sharing exceptional sex with a man makes him very friendly, as does denying sex in the most erotic of ways (for a man who enjoys that).

  373. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Joshy baby, it’s rather obvious, having attached an Avatar to my every post; no introduction is needed.

    Our dear DorkyDaddy has no problem with me referring to myself as Guru as I am qualified to do so having received thousands in cash, a college education’s worth of designer handbags, heels, lingerie, shoes, and clothes and having sugar travelled all over the globe, in addition to my highly successful blog (which is now closed) and my ability to drive even the most curmudgeonly of bloggers to obsessesion with my every semi colon. An ability to drive a man to obsession is an excellent skill for an SB to posess, maybe I’ll share my tips. 😉

    How are you today darling, are you going to behave or are you having one of those kinky days where you’re hoping to be punished?

    Beautiful sunny morning for me, off to lunch and a glass of bubbly, followed by some well earned beauty pampering at the conclusion of a brutal three months traveling for work.

    Just stepped out of a bubble bath, Prrrrrrrrr.

  374. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    Rant alert….

    Why do some POTs think it’s attractive to pressure woman about sex on a first date? I lay it out clearly, with no ambiguity. If your strategy is to get in my pants quickly, you’re going about it all wrong. Making me feel like my worth resides between my legs without any consideration for the brain I have in my pretty head is a lousy strategy and no, your wallet is not incentive enough to circumvent the ‘getting to know me’ clause.

    Yes, I get that ‘arrangements’ are about filling sexual needs. But respect the first date rule. The measure of a man is not his dick or his wallet. It’s his respect for women. Write it down if you can’t remember it.

    Rant over.

  375. FlyR says:

    SB guru. -“2% of sd open to friendship “.

    I think your inference was friendship w/o sex and in which case e 2% might be true . If you look for friend w/sex the number is probably 15%

  376. Josh says:

    @SugarBabyGuru,

    Welcome to the blog. Care to introduce yourself or reveal your previous blog id? 😉

    And where is the “do you think I am stupid? Yes”…DorkyGuy who tends to have problem when the word Guru is used?

  377. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @SugarBabyGuru

    You have to be the female equivalent of the man you’re trying to land (sexual desireability & charm for women are equivalent to success for men). Then, wait. Stay active, update your profile and photos every 30 days to take advantage of the extra promotion “new” babies get, send charming messages with impeccable grammar, reply to messages promptly, and treat SA like a part time job.”

    Respect. Very good advice…

  378. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @Domygrl
    “@ysplssir, yes, there are good SD’s around, just more difficult to find, or weed through to get to them, however, sometimes….”

    Yes, I’m not in a panic to find a SD. I like to think that my profile will attract the right type, though admittedly it could use some tweaking.

  379. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Ladies-

    A sugar baby should understand (intuitively) what her sugar daddy wants. 90% of daddys are here because they want charming, beautiful women and sex (maybe even kinky sex); 8% of daddys are here to be denied sex by a dominant, confident, playful sexy woman; that leaves 2% of the available daddys are open to friendship. So you might find a non-sexual arrangement but you’re aiming for a very small target.

    There are so many SD options on this site why choose a daddy you have no instant sexual chemistry with when you can find someone who does provide spark? Will your eventual SD have rock hard abs, a George Clooney grin, and the suave mannerisms of Carey Grant, No. But, settling for an SD that will take months to build an intimate interest in is a waste of his time and yours. Slow relationship building is what match.com is for. If you don’t get a tingle move on, there’s another Baby for him and another Daddy for you.

    Now, just because 90% of the men on this site want sex, and 50% of those men (at least) you’re not attracted to doesn’t mean you need to be willing to have sex with someone who grosses you out, do something sexually that grosses you out, or for an amount/arrangement that grosses you out in order to be a successful SB. Finding the right SD, with compatible sexual interests is all about supply and demand.

    When thinking about your approach to SA ask yourself, “Am I the kind of woman who can have any man in the room I want, regardless of how many other beautiful women are in the room?” The more confident your answer, the broader your range of options on SA (and your answer should really on more than beauty, hot girls are a dime a dozen).

    Not being the “IT” girl STILL doesn’t mean you need to compromise for someone you’re not interested in sexually, it just means your target SD audience is smaller.

    Now, ask yourself what “too old”, “too ugly”, “too rude”, or “not successful enough” means, to you, in terms of what you’re looking for. Then, adjust your expectations based on your desireability. If you’re a chubby, average girl who is cute but not hot, who doesn’t know which fork to use at a Michelin Star restaurant (or don’t know what that means) you’re probably aiming for an SD who is chubby, average, not a troll, and upper middle class (not a millionaire) so write your profile to him.

    You have to be the female equivalent of the man you’re trying to land (sexual desireability & charm for women are equivalent to success for men). Then, wait. Stay active, update your profile and photos every 30 days to take advantage of the extra promotion “new” babies get, send charming messages with impeccable grammar, reply to messages promptly, and treat SA like a part time job.

    You have to know what you’re looking for then find the SD you want rather than trusting that he’ll find you. And, you have to understand your market appeal so you can “advertise” to the right “customer”. Mercedes Benz doesn’t advertise on Duck Dynasty and Kia doesn’t put ads in the Metropolitan Opera Playbill.

    And, NEVER, talk about your kids in your profile, in a public blog, or in messaging with an SD you haven’t met. The world is full of creepers, perverts, threatening trolls, and men who will exploit your “mother status” in various ways. If you’re looking for father material keep that to yourself and let a man prove he’s worthy of knowing your kids before your kids enter the equation.

  380. Domygrl says:

    I like the sugar lips avatar.

  381. Domygrl says:

    On, my apologies, Mensa. You were speaking Hebrew and I just assumed you were searching for a Jewish/Yehudi man.

    There are sugar match making sites out there….for a fee. Am not sure if they make the ladies pay a fee as well as the men, or how they work exactly, as I have never used them, but they are out there. Have seen a couple in searches before.

    can definitely see that point of view and understand, RSD.

  382. RSD says:

    @MensaGirl, I think a regular dating site is better for what you’re looking for, since you’re not looking for financial support.

    @Domygrl, I probably fit the profile of the SD looking for longer-term and not to just sleep with as many hot young girls as he can (or can afford). So I totally understand situations where an SD puts off intercourse for a short while to see if the relationship has potential. That having been said, I’ve found that the ones with potential are the ones that just feel natural from the beginning, sex progresses quickly, and SB & SD are both happy. If I am debating whether or not to sleep with an SB, there is something wrong with her or the relationship that will make it not work beyond a few weeks max.

  383. MensaGirl says:

    @Domygrl
    A shadchan is a matchmaker. I’m not looking for a Jewish man in particular.
    I was just saying I could use a matchmaker right now. :)

  384. Domygrl says:

    “MensaGirl says:
    October 25, 2014 at 4:12 am
    OK, after a couple of weeks on SA, I think I’m on the wrong site (for me).
    Is anyone aware of a SERIOUS website catering to women in my position: past 40, Euro, NOT looking for NSA but for LTR and a GOOD DADDY… for my kid?
    Is there a dating website for marriage-minded men?
    (Actually, what I need is a shadchan, but I’m not Jewish…) :’(”

    Well, there are Jewish men on this site, here and there…although, have not seen that many or they do not advertise it, at first. There is J-date and other sites that cater to this. Also, there are men, on SA, who are looking for long-term, but is pretty rare, lately it seems.

    I can believe, Bri. Sometimes these relationships take a more natural or traditional progression towards intimacy(and, the men want it to. Some do not want to feel like they are ‘paying’ for you, and want it to feel like something real). Have had a couple SD’s be okay with waiting awhile(one, even months) before sex, while a couple were strictly platonic, but short lived. It depends, and have one where we were out of town for a week, but no sex. Think he might have been extremely shy, though, so he probably wanted me to make the first move. There are all kinds of scenarios that have seen or heard about, just like in regular relationships.

  385. NC Gent says:

    Newbie – it means the profile has been suspended and it will likely be deleted soon… could be for a number of reasons..fraud, spammer, self delete, etc.

  386. Domygrl says:

    @ysplssir, yes, there are good SD’s around, just more difficult to find, or weed through to get to them, however, sometimes….

  387. Newbie says:

    Hey could someone please tell me what it means when i can’t contact someone on SA and it says “this person is not active and cannot receive messages?”

  388. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    Your profile is perfect. I have no suggestions unless you have specific question. 😉

  389. MensaGirl says:

    OK, after a couple of weeks on SA, I think I’m on the wrong site (for me).
    Is anyone aware of a SERIOUS website catering to women in my position: past 40, Euro, NOT looking for NSA but for LTR and a GOOD DADDY… for my kid?
    Is there a dating website for marriage-minded men?
    (Actually, what I need is a shadchan, but I’m not Jewish…) :'(

  390. jasmin says:

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  391. Lainey says:

    Keyword: quadruple

  392. Josh says:

    @Lainey, I am sorry sweetheart. I don’t have your profile tag or id to visit your profile.

  393. Josh says:

    That is jaded alright.

  394. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @RSD
    “@ys_pls_sir2, “You are a gem RSD…this gives me hope.”

    Aw that is such a sweet comment. I don’t think of myself as a gem, but that is so nice of you to say.”

    At the risk of sounding jaded…it’s nice to hear a SD actually BE a real SD. She is a lucky girl.

  395. Josh says:

    I don’t have your id.

  396. SugarBabyGuru says:

    Hey y’all-

    I’m going to chime in on the Italy baby to challenge the idea that any girl would feel worse about herself or her relationship because some girl says she went to Italy and didn’t have sex with the man who the man who took her there. I reject the idea that any SB worth her sugar would find that desirable or aspire to that type of arrangement.

    Italy is hellaromantic, it’s like Spanish fly. If you’re saying a guy took you to Italy and you didn’t get the tingles to get frisky I’m going to go with another version: you’re afraid of admitting that your just as big a tramp as the next girl and you tackled him and beat him to the ground, you’re completely frigid, or he was such a tripple bagger that to even accept a trip to Italy with him is taking advantage.

  397. Lainey says:

    @Josh take a look at mine please and thank you

  398. Josh says:

    Can anyone point me to the Cosmo article that advised women that if they put “I like to try new things” men will interpret it as being adventurous in bed?

  399. RSD says:

    @ys_pls_sir2, “You are a gem RSD…this gives me hope.”

    Aw that is such a sweet comment. I don’t think of myself as a gem, but that is so nice of you to say.

  400. Lainey says:

    @Distany or peanut butter cracker pasties. Please contact @YGBKM for an exclusive pair

  401. Josh says:

    Take a boob shot. Create an account on Gravatar dot com. Upload the boob shot. The skimpier the bra the better.

  402. Distany says:

    @Josh I know I am not an SD but i am ticklish and hate it most of the time.

    Side note how do you get a pic on here instead of the blue thing?

  403. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @RSD
    “Speaking of gems, I really think I have found one now. We’ve now made it to the one month mark. The whole thing just feels so natural; there is great mutual honesty; her eyes gleam with genuine affection; and the sex is amazing–well, at least for me. We are planning to go from meeting twice a week to three times a week next month (normally I’d worry about that being too much of one person, but not with her). She will need about 1.5-2.5 years of support through school, maybe longer, and I am happy for her to quit her job, concentrate entirely on her school, and let me take care of her so doesn’t have to worry about money at all while she pursues her dreams. The thought of being the uber-generous and reliable lover to a sweet, deserving, and hot girl is such a turn on for me.”

    You are a gem RSD…this gives me hope.

  404. Josh says:

    @SDs (minus two)

    Survey question…

    How many girls you have dated on SA are genuinely ticklish in bed in your opinion?

  405. Josh says:

    @RSD

    As long as the good, the bad and the ugly are real, we are all good.

  406. RSD says:

    @Lainey, thanks. I’m sure you’ll all be kept posted. I know I always come and whine about the bad apples, might as well brag on the gems as well.

  407. RSD says:

    Thank you, Josh. My blog stories are all true. I have a tendency to provide too much mundane detail, I know; I do it on the blog and IRL also. For being an SD I suck at keeping my own secrets.

  408. Lainey says:

    YAY @RSD Great to hear!

  409. Josh says:

    @RSD, congratulations. Real and believable accounts of arrangements are always appreciated.

  410. RSD says:

    I should qualify that by saying that her current job entails 10-12 hour days and precluded going back to school, so quitting it would be required regardless at some point if she is to pursue her dreams

  411. RSD says:

    Speaking of gems, I really think I have found one now. We’ve now made it to the one month mark. The whole thing just feels so natural; there is great mutual honesty; her eyes gleam with genuine affection; and the sex is amazing–well, at least for me. We are planning to go from meeting twice a week to three times a week next month (normally I’d worry about that being too much of one person, but not with her). She will need about 1.5-2.5 years of support through school, maybe longer, and I am happy for her to quit her job, concentrate entirely on her school, and let me take care of her so doesn’t have to worry about money at all while she pursues her dreams. The thought of being the uber-generous and reliable lover to a sweet, deserving, and hot girl is such a turn on for me.

    Yes, I do worry about things changing (they always eventually will), and I have brought those realities up with her, but everything is just so perfect now.

  412. Little Kitty says:

    @Kbaby – You shouldn’t do anything you aren’t “into” but it seems that you not aware what this site entails… Besides “older” men seem to be more reliable, at least based on my experience.

    Honestly, I also find it tough to believe a man would bring a woman to another country and not want to be intimate with her… It would be a bit suspicious if a man didn’t want to sleep with an attractive woman.

  413. flyR says:

    “Don’t want to be under an older heavier man” – Demonstrate Cowgirl magic after some instruction . Change you profile to lightly indicate that’s a requirement

  414. RSD says:

    @Bri, I guess I should add that some noob SDs may also go this route you describe. When I was new to SA I had a more romanticized view of sugar in which I would find a girl I adored and lusted for, take generous care of her, and she would just adore me in return and an amazing mutually beneficial affair would ensue. Somehow or another after many disasters I got more jaded, so what ended up happening was that I’d just meet an SB, make a proposal if I liked her, have sex, and then if the girl genuinely adored me, I’d keep taking care of her. Many girls here have a prostitute-like mentality in which the man is an ATM machine, but many see the SD as a friend and genuinely enjoy the relationship. Those are the gems everyone is seeking.

  415. RSD says:

    @Bri, I like your story, but I think most people on the blog will have a hard time believing that a guy would take you to Italy, take you shopping, and not have sex. It sounds like the typical “Matrix” story Josh has discussed, where women tend to talk up to other girls what they receive and talk down what they provide in a relationship in order to (a) make themselves feel more special; and (b) make the other girls feel lower relationship satisfaction.

    However, I would say that it is possible for what you describe to happen if he didn’t know you before you went on the trip, met you there, decided he didn’t want to sleep with you for whatever reason, but politely made the best of the trip. The fact that he wants a second trip is then hard for me to believe, and I would suspect that it won’t happen.

  416. RSD says:

    @Kbaby, “meeting someone that isn’t old and trying to lay on top of me is hard.”

    This is quite a loaded sentence. A few comments:

    First, finding an SD can is hard for many if not most SBs.

    Second, I don’t know what you mean by old, but pretty much a 10+ year age difference is expected, and 20-30+ year age difference is typical. My age difference with SBs from SA has ranged from 10 to 21 years (I’m 40). I don’t know how old you are, but if you consider 40 old, you’re probably on the wrong site.

    Third, expecting to meet a guy for a strictly asexual adult relationship is not likely to work in most situations (boyfriend, husband, sugar daddy, whatever). Most men enter relationships expecting sex at some point. If it’s regular dating, then if sex doesn’t pan out, the man can move on and sleep with someone else. If he pays for the relationship, then he typically expects things to move along quickly in terms of his expectations from the relationship, otherwise he will feel used. And if he doesn’t feel that he is paying for the relationship but genuinely enjoys taking care of his sugar baby, he will want an SB who will genuinely want to take care of his needs also.

    That all having been said, I have had short term (few weeks’ duration) sugar relationships without having sex with the SBs if they were particularly fun or charming. Now I pretty much have a simple rule: platonic meet and greet; sex anticipated on second date and expected on the third. It’s been a while since I’ve made it to the end of the third date without sex, but I imagine I’d declare the relationship lacking chemistry and move on if that were to happen.

    Also, please realize how easy it is for an SD to find another SB. This is not middle school where a hot girl holds all the cards. I broke up with an SB of 7 months and 5 days later I met an SB who lasted almost four years. It only took 5 days because there was a weekend in between and I wasn’t free to meet anyone those two days. The latter hadn’t even left town yet at the end of our affair when I saw a super hot SB profile and started seeing her. I don’t treat the girls like they’re disposable at all; I genuinely care about them, but reality is reality.

  417. Josh says:

    @Bri

    “Just arrived home after a lovely long weekend of shopping in Italy with my SD :) …Despite what many girls are saying on here- we do not have a sexual relationship thus far.”

    – SBs love such talk here.
    – SDs (minus two) don’t believe it unless you give profile id and we check out the hotness factor.

  418. Josh says:

    @Kbaby

    Have you tried laying on top of him if you don’t like him laying on top of you?

    Also, there are many other positions that don’t involve him laying on top of you.

  419. Josh says:

    @newbie-scorpio

    You indicated that you don’t have problems getting attention in real life, and that you have never done sugar.

    Unless you’re trying to narrow down to only those who understand your sense of humor, keep it 1) matter of fact and 2) flirty.

    Also…

    – AA members (male and female) have reported challenges in securing sugar on SA.
    – Non-heterosexual members have reported challenges in securing sugar on SA.

    Your mileage may vary.

    Good luck!

  420. Bri says:

    Just arrived home after a lovely long weekend of shopping in Italy with my SD :) We are planning a trip to the stated in a few weeks and I cat wait! I love travelling! Despite what many girls are saying on here- we do not have a sexual relationship thus far. I had a longterm sd/sb relationship before which was of a sexual nature but we still travelled as well and went to some lovely restaurants etc. I find that if you are a genuine honest girl who is not pushy- good experiences will come to you. I never asked for the trip to Italy or the wonderful gifts- it just sort of happened that way. If you are a money grabbing cold person then don’t expect nice people to gravitate towards you. I really really genuinely love older men and have all my life so I don’t see this as an issue. I would never ever see anyone under 35. I love the late thirties to late 50s age range- a huge turn on for me and I feel stimulated mentally too. I think it also helps seeing someone single- in the past it just never happens with married men for me. Ever. They have to be sneaky, can never go out and see this as a fantasy and love browsing- The single guys have been there and done that with a marriage and want to enjoy life and are always happy to meet asap. Just wanted to say that this site really does work :) xx Bri

  421. Petite says:

    @Kbaby
    The majority of the men on this website are older and looking for a sexual partner. Even if that’s not what you’re looking for, you’re going to have to accept that as a truth.

  422. Kbaby says:

    I wonder if its my profile or idk because meeting someone that isn’t old and trying to lay on top of me is hard =(

  423. SexyRockstar says:

    @Josh

    I have brown hair in that picture…I need to stop in at Radio Shack and replace it with my blonde hair. HAHAHA. I thought about having a picture with my back at the camera..in boy shorts…but you will see my butt tattoo…and, everyone I know, knows I have that tattoo…That tattoo is a fan favorite.

  424. SexyRockstar says:

    Newbie—not too bad, but If I was a sugar mama…the whole “renew our belief in love” will make me run away.

    From what I can tell…you are cute! But a sugar mama wants a pretty boy, so show off your abs. I can’t see your private pictures, but make sure you’re not showing your…fun stuff. Let that stay a mystery. Also, I think there are a lot more Sugar Daddys for a Sugar Baby Male…so, hopefully you will catch a female. Also, there are typos, so double check that.

    “I am the must read novel not on the best seller list! But why, you ask. It’s too good to share. Discreetly mysterious and open at the same time. A Beautiful contradiction. Intelligent recent college graduate. Big dreams, Even bigger heart which is open for the right person. Sense of humor. My smile is my best asset, wellllll maybe lol. Masculine by nature. Young and fit. Nice mocha brown skin, full lips, and deep brown eyes that light up in the summer sun. Natural born creative guy who in my spare time likes to save the world and everyone in it.”

    You sound like a sugar daddy here, actually. Talk about what FUN you can do for your SM. Sense of humor…replace that with “will make you laugh and feel alive again” Smile is my best assets…be sexy with it and say “My best asset is between my smile and my..well, you can guess what that other maybe be”

    Not bad tho. Any other Babies want to check him out?

  425. Josh says:

    @SexyRockstar

    For resesrch purposes, please let me know if changing to that photo does anything at all as far as response.

  426. SexyRockstar says:

    Sounds amazing.

    @josh
    I had tried to arrange my photos, and now Radio Shack is my main profile picture. Your wish has been granted.

  427. Little Kitty says:

    Sounds hairy lol

  428. NC Gent says:

    I am in favor of a group hug, especially if we make it “bear” naked :)

  429. Little Kitty says:

    Can’t we all just be friends!? :-)

  430. SexyRockstar says:

    Still better then the Sox 😛

  431. NC Gent says:

    but hey — the Bears won a Super Bowl about 30 years ago, so it isn’t all bad. Being a Cubs fan takes even more patience — 1908 World Champions!

  432. Little Kitty says:

    Lols aww – Hey I give any Bears fan props for staying a Bears fan. That takes true dedication right there!

  433. NC Gent says:

    lol thought you might like that :)

  434. SexyRockstar says:

    ^^^^asshole

  435. NC Gent says:

    Kitty – if you want, you can email me at packersrulebearsdrool at hotmail

    better act now before they delete :)

  436. flyR says:

    @ adventure seeker – I thought about what you wrote a little more overnight. I think I missed the most important issue, the way you are structuring the “deal” you are incurring the obligation to have a bundle of sex, essentially for compensation, with someone you have never met. I think that falls outside the large sugar tent and is probably not a good idea for you. Yes sometimes we decide on calls and emails that we simply need to arrive , get naked and have fun.

    Were I your brother I would advise you to never meet someone for the first time having committed to have sex with them . Even where an SB has met me at my place for the first meeting I have had an agreement that neither is committed. It’s hard for me to see how you say no when he has paid for the room.

  437. Lainey says:

    Lol @SexyRockstar my hair is to my booty. I meant the dating app.

  438. Little Kitty says:

    NC, anything I cook or bake is awesome :-) Or so I’ve been told…

  439. NC Gent says:

    Kitty — if you make killer awesome oatmeal raisin cookies – we might be able to come to a deal :)

  440. Little Kitty says:

    @Sexy – I’m frugal, I pre-game always (and/or get someone to buy my drinks for me) Often I just sneak mini whiskeys in with me hehe, I like to live dangerously.

  441. Little Kitty says:

    I just Googled it – Says it’s the Tinder for rich people…

  442. SexyRockstar says:

    @Lainey…

    Hair extensions? I clearly don’t need them, but my one girlfriend bought them and loved them
    Orrr the dating app? No to that.

    @Kitty
    Chicago can be cheap, real cheap. I live 20-25 minuets northbound of the city. And some of the comedy clubs I worked at, the drinks are super expensive, but I know bars and such that look like big city, but hole-in-the-wall prices. I would NEVER pay more then 4 dollars for an OLD STYLE. HAhaha

  443. Little Kitty says:

    Haha aww – Chicago is definitely fun for a weekend but so expensive! I am going to Minneapolis for a girls night in November. Not much cheaper but the people are soo much nicer! :-)

    @NC – That would be awesome to see! I would lose my voice from yelling… Hopefully not heckling I don’t see myself as a heckler. Did I mention that I bake one badass made-from-scratch cheesecake… Lols

  444. SexyRockstar says:

    OOhh, I am traveling soon now since I got an email.

    I will be in New York…COMEDY AUDITION WOOOOOTTTTTT. In 2 weeks. I am bringing my kids tho..no sugar time. Mama gonna be famous…well..maybe not…but stilllllll

  445. NC Gent says:

    Silva fights Diaz in LV the end of January — that would be so awesome to see!
    Thanks for the warning Kitty — I will keep a safe emotional distance :)

  446. SexyRockstar says:

    Yes love, I am in Chicago. You can typically see me stumbling in the streets around Wrigleyville holding an Old Style. Every now and then I will venture into the Loop and start taking shots with a bunch of stuck up business men. Then I fall asleep on the Blue Line and go back to my home in a snobby suburb. YUPPP.

  447. Little Kitty says:

    Sexy, are you in Chicago? The last baseball game I attended was a Red Sox game, it was a lot of fun ! Until signing up on this site I never noticed how older men look at me… I was like a hot pocket in room full of starving hyenas haha

    It’s okay NC, happens to everyone 😉 Just kitten!

    Ever since I left Vegas I wanted to go back – I would love to make it to MGM for a UFC fight! I don’t think I’ll ever forget Anderson Silva busting his leg… *shudders*

  448. NC Gent says:

    I am falling for you Kitty (jk) – I love UFC and hate baseball!

  449. SexyRockstar says:

    No no no…thats when you say..

    “Ohhh SexyRockstar, the Brewers are nothing compared to your all-mighty Cubs! Lets do a girls night, pick up some men and wear cute little Cubs outfits!”

  450. Little Kitty says:

    I don’t really get into baseball. I like football and UFC (boxing as well though it’s a bit dated)…

  451. SexyRockstar says:

    @little kitty

    are you a brewers fan?

  452. Little Kitty says:

    Last time I went to a home game we won and I went out after… Wound up wearing balloon penises and poking strangers with them.

  453. SexyRockstar says:

    Bear down…Chicago Bears

  454. Lainey says:

    LOL @LittleKitty. . Philly has been #1 on the WORST fans list OFTEN Lmao

  455. NC Gent says:

    Yes – it is about impossible to live in WI and not be at least somewhat of a Packers fan.

    Lainey — a friend of mine played for Tampa also, but that was many years ago!

  456. Little Kitty says:

    Sadly I don’t follow any other team… I am a Packer fan because it would be blasphemous if I wasn’t :-) But that’s okay the best fans are Packer fans!

  457. Lainey says:

    My ex plays for Tampa.. *GAG*

    I guess I’m the only Eagles fan in here. Lol

  458. SexyRockstar says:

    You wanna know what IS fun to do…cheering for the Broncos when you’re in Indiana. OOhhhh the looks.

    #PeytonIsBetterOff

  459. NC Gent says:

    yeah Urlacher definitely called out Cutler. The Bears defense is pretty weak, so I don’t put it all on Cutler. I thought they overpaid when they got him from Denver though.

  460. SexyRockstar says:

    —-I HATE CUTLER. Seriously, if you google Brian Urlacher, he basically slams him. We have a good line, but, ((as much as I love my sexy rexy)) He is turning into him! When he is good, he is GREAT…but he is more bad then that. And when he’s bad, he’s so so ssssoooo bad.

    SO LETS DANCE, THE LAST DANCE TOOONNNNNIIIIIGGHGGGGGHHHHTTTT . sorry. i. had. to.

  461. NC Gent says:

    Yeah — I thought about flying over for that game. I think I am going to go see them play in Tampa right before Xmas though. I like Tampa more than N.O.

  462. Little Kitty says:

    Lol, I was just going to mention how the Bears were recently dominated 😀 Rematch the 9th, home game too!

    Speaking of traveling – I would love to be in New Orleans for Sundays game!

  463. NC Gent says:

    @Kitty — I was in Rio a few weeks ago, even though it was early Spring, the sun was very intense. Very pretty how the mountains roll into the ocean there.

    We can still be friends Rockstar, but just not when the Packers play the Bears – we put a beat down on the Bears a few weeks ago :)

  464. Little Kitty says:

    Hehe yea I am from Wisconsin :-) (yes I do love the Packers)

    I wish I could go to somewhere tropical. I don’t think I’d ever want to go home though! I’ve always wanted to go to Rio during Carnival…

    Thanks NC Gent, I work out 😉

  465. SexyRockstar says:

    @NC

    I thought we were friends….I’m not sure how I feel about you being a “huge” packers fan.

    BEAR DOWN!

  466. NC Gent says:

    Mensa – I meant to say “it won’t be impossible to find someone, especially since you aren’t looking for an allowance.” I shouldn’t have combined sentences…. one of my many instances for typing to fast and not editing :)

    Kitty – beer, cheese and football — Wisconsin by any chance? I am a huge Packers fan :) btw, cute booty!

  467. SexyRockstar says:

    @Kitty

    You said Cheese…you’re a cheese head. It’s okay, they are actually doing great this year, doing wonders for my fantasy football team.

    I just wish Cutler took some notes :(

  468. MensaGirl says:

    Little Kitty, I wish you a SD that takes you to the Tropics! :)

  469. Little Kitty says:

    Haha – Midwest actually. Last winter was the coldest in 40 years, I don’t think I can handle another one of those!

  470. MensaGirl says:

    Little Kitty, you must be living in New England, LOL! :)
    I know the feeling! I used to count the days to Xmas and February Break and my vacations to Southern Mexico, aka my “Great Escape” from the blizzards and the shoveling!

  471. MensaGirl says:

    Got rid of the “dislikes”! 😉

  472. MensaGirl says:

    Voilà, edit accomplished! :)
    Was that the right picture, NC Gent?

  473. Little Kitty says:

    For about 4 months I was traveling around the U.S. for “first meets”… I always Skyped first with the person though. I don’t think I could ever travel outside of the US to meet someone for the first time, regardless of how much communication there’s been. Seems incredibly dangerous (even for me and I am a risk taker) Now I am seeing what local SDs are all about… Which is actually working out better for me anyways.

    I wouldn’t want a potential SD to meet me… Lol, all there’s to do around here is beer, cheese and football 😉

    I live in a state with only two seasons though: Winter and road construction – I’m beginning to miss traveling :-(

  474. RSD says:

    Yeah in general dislikes shouldn’t be listed. That should be fleshed out in the messaging with a pot. A positive list of likes is ok.

  475. MensaGirl says:

    So, NC Gent, you think that if I were asking for an allowance, things would be easier? That is so weird. But, well, I mean, if someone insists on THROWING money at me, I guess, I won’t flush it down the toilet either! :)
    I can’t do anything about my venerable old age, but I’ll take heed of your advice concerning the picture in any case.
    Petite, I’ll try and skip most of the negatives. ;p
    Thank you both for taking the time to assist me. <3

  476. Anna says:

    I’d be happy to be a traveling SB:) I’ve always wanted to visit Hawaii!!! I’d first definitely do a few United States trips with a SD before going anywhere that would require a passport….even Canada. Just being a safe lady looking out for myself!:) A

  477. Petite says:

    @mensa
    The top portion of your about me is great– tells all about you and who you are.
    Rereading it, it’s more the likes/dislikes where I get a little ehh… I don’t know how to describe it. Besides, dislikes are negatives and they don’t help attract anyone :).
    But again, take more weight to those who are SDs with experience.

  478. NC Gent says:

    Mensa – given your age, location and English language requirement, I think it will be difficult but not impossible to find an SD, especially because you aren’t looking for an allowance. The second picture from the left on the bottom row is the most flattering picture IMHO. Make that your primary picture and guys are more likely to read you profile, and you might get more guys to read it. I don’t have a lot of experience in Europe, other than the last time I looked, it was very easy to find someone there, which makes me think SDs have even more options there than in the US.

  479. MensaGirl says:

    Intimidating? Yikes! I had no clue! :/
    I am aware that my age IS an issue; no Spring chicken here… Maybe this was not such a good idea…
    I’ll have to rethink that “about me” section then, and I have no clue on how to go about it; I’m kind of awkward when it comes to marketing myself.
    Thanks, Petite, for the advice. :)

  480. Petite says:

    You might want to think about rewriting your about me section to frame it more around why these attributes make you attractive to the SD you want/ what you can provide your SD that is different than anyone else

  481. Petite says:

    I’m not an SD, so you’ll get a better response from them. I found your profile a bit intimidating/overwhelming if that makes sense. It also might be a bit more difficult due to your location (and specifically requesting english speakers) and age (though the older SBs can speak more on this- there ARE SDs looking for you, just not as many)

  482. MensaGirl says:

    Could someone with experience have a look at my profile and kindly let me know if I should edit it?
    I am having a hard time connecting with SDs, but then again my location is far from ideal.
    Thank guys! :)

  483. NC Gent says:

    My last comment was meant for AdventureSeaker – probably obvious though.

  484. RSD says:

    AdventureSeaker, what you’re asking for seems too risky for any SD. He would have to pay $1300 for your hotel stay with no guarantees that you’d even meet up with him, never mind be up for bedroom activities. Plus, it would be just a one-time thing, which means SDs looking for a longer-term arrangement would not be interested; you’re left with those looking for a quick hook-up, and most of those are not going to invest anything hoping for return on investment.

  485. NC Gent says:

    I don’t think any real SD would go for that. Try putting an ad on CL or backpage — that seems more appropriate for what you are seeking.

  486. Josh says:

    I can dig FB as the moderator.

  487. Josh says:

    @vidaloca,

    Scroll up and read few of my comments–related to new profiles–starting on “October 23, 2014 at 9:34 am”

    The comments are written under ‘Josh Guru aka “King @Josh”‘
    😉

  488. DMS says:

    @Rebecca

    Public photos all I need to see. I don’t really care about private photos. The ones who shared private photos, IMO nothing new from the public ones…

  489. vidaloca says:

    i would like to know where to look to get started and to do a proper profile?

  490. Petite says:

    @Adventure
    Seaker isn’t a word…
    But terrible snide comments aside, I don’t believe this is a reasonable request to make. As flyr pointed out, this isn’t someone you’ve already met. That’s an incredible leap of faith for him to make. It seems as though you’re not looking for a long time thing as you aren’t in the area and were looking for a fun guy to meet up with while you were there. So, if you are determined to not pay for the trip yourself, I would find an SD close to you to help fund the trip/hotel before you go. If you still want to find a guy there to meet up with, I would let the guys in that area know that you will be in town for a couple days (perhaps they could help with travel costs) but you’ll also be with friends so time will be limited. I think you’ll find that it will be much easier to be reimbursed than it will be for you to get things booked ahead of time.

    Don’t know if any of that made sense, just got back from a friend’s birthday party and I’m a bit tipsy. Hope it did though.

  491. flyR says:

    I went back and re-read once or twice for your expectation and the gamble that it might be a zero. You are probably better off with a one night commitment for part of the room cost and an option for more time .

    There’s much more to sugar and the two of you will have to find your way. Were this presented to me I would say no thanks ………. It has trouble written all over it and can can get certainty for less.

  492. flyR says:

    The fly in the ointment is, I think, that you are looking for him to pay for the room before you meet. That’s a big leap of faith. The total amount is not that unreasonable but the timing is difficult and it also assumes he will be able to see you on your schedule.

    Will your friends wonder where you are disappearing to ?

    Probably not possible but ideally you would meet prior.

    I do not know where you are but $400-$800 per night for a multiple night commitment may be a little much. But that’s in the eye of the beholder. Make him an offer he can not refuse.

  493. AdventureSeaker says:

    So I am going to another fun city for fun with a few friends. I decided to get my own place but want to meet up with a great guy. My goal is to Skype/call before my trip as it is in February. I also would like for him to pay for my 5 nights in this city but be able to see me once or twice while I am down there in order to also leave room to be able to spend time with my friends who have traveled with me. How is the best way to ask him to book me the room for those many nights as I am not asking for anything else to be paid for. Is this a reasonable request? I saw that it is about 800-1300 for 5 nights stay with tax, resort fee and other little fees.

    I would think most guys pay about 400-800 per night to see a sexy gal right? So this is no different. I think now is a good time to find him ahead of time but how do I make him feel comfortable even if we Skype or talk on the phone to assist with ahead of time booking. Obviously I want it in my name just in case I can’t get into my own hotel room and this way he has privacy and discretion at all times. Please advise :)

  494. flyR says:

    How about an add on for premium members which would allow you to enjoy the blog by simply making posters disappear with a poof option. Only $10 more per month. You would still see some of the residue in other reactive posts but the blog would be much more enjoyable

  495. RSD says:

    @Renee, that’s all great, but the blog is no place to find an SD. Make a profile and good luck!!

  496. RSD says:

    @Petite the reason I’d say I’d have few secrets is because the more shocking my secret the more I enjoy divulging it to all sorts of people. Many people find my bluntness about topics everyone keeps secret odd at first but everyone tends to like it at the end; I just affirm in a funny cute way what we all kinda know to be true, that humans–myself first and foremost–are odd and curious entities.

  497. Renee Bishir says:

    I am Beautiful intelligent and humble, I have a bachlor in Psychology,and am looking for that relationship of being your intimate friend and have that ultimate relationship

  498. FatB'StardSA says:

    Interesting news about the bans. I think I might be able to help…

    @Kirsten

    We all know that everyone reads the blog to see what I will post next. To be blunt, I make the blog worth while. We can join forces. Make me a blog moderator and I will get the scum off of the blog and bring it back to it’s former glory!

    The choice is yours…are you man enough to take it?

  499. Bataviahottie35 says:

    I would love to travel, I ti s something I enjoy so much. I hope to meet a great guy to share fun times with

  500. Josh says:

    When the annoying people start bothering me, I will create another long-ass name specifically for the annoying people. 😉 Until then…all is good.

    @Lainey, you are correct. Structure is GOOD!

    Too many women run around with a “system” they loving call “hot mess.”

  501. Lainey says:

    @Josh Lmao. What? I have a system. Structure is GOOD! Lol

  502. Josh says:

    Since annoying people are not around…back to “Josh”.

  503. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @Lainey,

    Thanks for the detailed response on private photos.

  504. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    One of the prime reasons for the existence of sugar space is that men want to escape nags; of one kind or the other. Any negatives on SBs’ profiles cause me to hit the back button.

  505. Lainey says:

    @Josh if I’ve read his profile and it seems that we are super compatible (aka he’s married and handsome.. lmao) then I share my pics and if I don’t hear from him within 24hrs I “unshare” them. OR depending on how interested I am, send a follow up message.

    If he has private pics as well, I request his. If he insists I show first, I do so and then reply “your turn”.

    If he has private but is LESS compatible and requests to view I tell them “show me yours and I’ll show you mine ;)”

    And if they have NO pics on the site I let them know that I am “uncomfortable sharing with someone without conversing a bit” then if they choose to get to know me I unlock them and send them my email so they can send me a pic

    If I’m not feeling them AT ALL, I simply ignore the message.

    I get 5-15 requests a day to view my photos. I’m not wasting my time convincing someone I’m NOT interested in to “talk first”

  506. Petite says:

    @RSD
    That’s the only reason it annoys me. If I was more vague about my physique, I would understand.
    I get some REALLY interesting responses. But most of them are really awesome. It’s the best way to get to know someone. Especially when they say they hardly have any secrets ;).

    @WCSD
    Thanks :)
    I’m a generally positive person who understands marketing, so even when I have to get across an idea that might potentially be construed as negative; I make sure to spin it with words. Yay words!
    Learned from the best of the best: my mentor has the most amazing personality of anyone I’ve ever met. She’s one of those people who, when they ask how you’re doing, you can tell they actually really care. She’s also a cancer survivor, a widower, and when I was in college her house burned down and the only thing she had to say about it was “I get to buy all new clothes!”

  507. WCSD says:

    Awesome idea Petite. You’d be surprised at the number of ‘negative’ profiles that exist…it is quite common.

  508. RSD says:

    @Petite, I agree if you have a full face and full body public picture, there is no need for an SD to ask to see private photos without messaging first. I am only talking about situations where there is no face and/or body photo.

    Asking for a naughty secret probably gets some interesting responses. I wonder if I have any naughty secrets. I hardly have secrets at all.

  509. Petite says:

    @RSD
    In addition, the reason I do this for my private pictures is because I have four very adequate public pictures available (two full face, one face and body, and one full body).
    It’s not as though there’s any reason to not know you’re interested after seeing those four.

  510. Petite says:

    @WCSD
    I don’t make it a blatant negative- It’s playful.
    It’s to the effect of “if you want to see my private photos, tell me a naughty secret about yourself. To be fair, mine is…”
    If I don’t get a naughty secret (or an explanation why there isn’t a naughty secret) and they ask for pics, I delete the message.
    Plus it’s a good ice breaker.

  511. RSD says:

    @Rebecca, no private photos is fine, maybe even better if you have one good profile pic; just say in your profile that you’d be happy to email more pics.

    But in all honesty, I have often asked for private pics before messaging and I am definitely not a photo collector. I do so because I have real interest in the particular SB based on her profile and any public photos she may have, but her public photos are not adequate for me to know what she and/or her body habitus look like, and if the private pics are to my liking I would message her. Some SBs take my request for private photos with no message negatively, but in all honesty, I don’t have time to message 50 people with inadequate photos for me to judge whether I’m at all interested. And I don’t want to start a whole useless bunch of emails if I won’t even want them if I knew what they looked like. Sounds harsh but it is what it is.

    And I completely agree with WCSD, anything negative in a profile sounds like a bitter, jaded SB with an axe to grind.

  512. WCSD says:

    As for private photos, it doesn’t matter to me. The public ones have to attract me to contact someone. If they don’t I won’t (whether they have private pics or not). If I’d like to see more then I ask and if the way for a pot to show me is letting me see her ‘private pics’ or sending/texting me a pic I don’t really care which it happens to be.

  513. WCSD says:

    @Petite – I wouldn’t put in your profile that you ignore messages that only ask for pics. My reasons are:

    1) If the guy is a pic collector, he won’t care what you’ve written and will just ask anyway. So putting the statement in their has no desired affect.
    2) It is putting a negative in your profile. Negatives of any kind are bad. It makes the SB (or SD for that matter) come across as being a negative Nancy, and really we want someone upbeat and positive. So messages like ‘If you are an asshole don’t bother contacting me’ or ‘If you just want a booty call don’t bother’, etc. is just showing a negative attitude which only makes the legitimate people who you want to contact you get turned off. The assholes/booty call people aren’t reading what you are saying anyway.

    The solution is just to ignore those messages. Delete and block and move on. Don’t let the negative message poison your profile to the actual people you are trying to attract.

  514. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @Lainey

    So if a guy asked you for private photos before saying “Hi”, would you buzz him off?

  515. Lainey says:

    @Josh just about ALL my Pics are private. The only public pic I have up is headless

  516. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @Rebecca

    There maybe some men who are interested in “private” photos but I personally like to see some decent photos whether they are public or private.

    Hmmmm, is there a Cosmo article on private photos telling women to put the same kinda photos in private section to create mystery?

  517. Petite says:

    I just put on a note on my profile saying I will ignore any messages like that, and if a guy ignores that it means
    1) he didn’t read my profile
    or
    2) he didn’t care

    And in either case, I really don’t want to be involved with someone who thinks that little of me.

  518. Rebecca says:

    Do any of you SBs not have any private photos on the site and only show them by text or email? I personally hate and ignore guys who message me first only asking to see my private photos. I am thinking about removing it. However, I wonder if men will be less inclined to message me due to no private photos..

  519. JoJo says:

    @SexyRockstar woot woot for the Chicago girls!!! ^__^

  520. RSD says:

    @flyr, “Were all those disasters from the same SB??”

    No, I’ve had travel disaster from three different SBs. I’ve only traveled with 4 SBs total and had two (a duo) travel to me. Traveling to me was a disaster for me also; I got stuck entertaining these two boring idiots who couldn’t set their cell phones aside for a minute for an entire weekend, so I was never tempted to try that again.

  521. RSD says:

    @Domygrl , “That is good to hear that a woman can be too fit ”

    Definitely true. I don’t want a girl more muscular or toned than me. In fact I prefer a girl who feels soft when i rub her arms as opposed to firm from toned muscle. But as for fit vs fat, I’d take fit anytime.

    @SexyRockstar , “I am short… I’m just at 5’4.” I like short girls, 5’2″-5’5″ is ideal in my eyes. Some guys I know like 5’8″+, but everyone has their own preferences.

  522. RSD says:

    @Bans
    I think bans should be temporary, e.g. 1 day, 3 day, 7 day for first, second, third “offense”. I do think people get too personally at each others’ throats over nothing on here, and it does detract from the blog as a space to share stories, give advice, and vent. I hope to see the banned back soon; they do unban people (I had a blog SB once who got banned and eventually unbanned).

  523. Lainey says:

    Well so much for all the positivity that was going on today.

  524. NC Gent says:

    It is an IP ban WCSD

  525. WCSD says:

    When someone gets banned, what are they banning? Their IP? The email used to leave a comment? It would only be affective with an IP ban, but I honestly don’t know. Otherwise why wouldn’t you just create a new persona (KMS version 2.0) and come back again?

  526. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    Agree with @Elaine. Everyone unanimously asked him to leave the children out, but he thought that it was his ace retaliation card against our lovely Kms2014.

    That said, I am NOT in favor of banning anyone, even him and definitely not Kms2014, unless the blogger continuously keeps running into blog terms of service (TOS). Then SA does not really have any choice.

  527. Elaine says:

    KMS is banned because she stood up when an ugly (inside AND outside!) little blog dwarf, threathend to go to her kids school to “out” his mother as being a drug whore because having a profile on SA.

    Not to even mention his sick insinuations of introducing her son in a sexual way into her Sugar relationships.

    Sad little man was banned for that, but is so obsessed that he is now constantly bugging SA to ban her too.

    Which is what they did now.

    Very bad judgement, as SA shows in more cases btw….

  528. DorkyGuy says:

    @YGBKM~ Posting the note here won’t help… it will just get moderated.

    It doesn’t get to the right person anyway. Customer Support doesn’t read this blog. Kirsten does, but she is not in support. She’s a marketing person.

    The right mechanism to register your feedback is by emailing [a]support@seekingarrangement.com[a].

    It won’t change the resolution. I have talked to support, and the decision is final. They state that KMS wasn’t innocent.

    I believe the bigger issue is that SA simply doesn’t have the resources to moderate the blog and thoroughly research each complaint. From a resource/business standpoint, the right call is to just ban all participants in drama (even if it isn’t “fair” to all concerned). If I were running their business, I would make the same business decision.

    Either that, or I would shut down comments entirely. That would suck for everyone, but if drama keeps up at the levels that it has, don’t think it hasn’t crossed their minds.

    @SA~ Totally understand if you moderate this post, but it might be useful to you guys to leave it up.

  529. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @SexyRockstar

    Looks good to me. Photos are good. The Radio Shack should be the main photo?

    “Sexy-Fun-Passionate-MUST be discreet” should go the other section?

    Note spelling…

  530. “SexyRockstar says:
    October 23, 2014 at 12:37 pm
    @Josh

    You’re more then welcome to see Chicago, take me to a Bears game, whatever.

    I was just being silly. But bring my ‘ole girl YouGottaBe with ya.”

    Let’s go to Chicago, babe!

  531. SexyRockstar says:

    @Josh

    You’re more then welcome to see Chicago, take me to a Bears game, whatever.

    I was just being silly. But bring my ‘ole girl YouGottaBe with ya.

  532. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @SexyRockstar

    I don’t, or even attempt to, meet up with blog SBs.

    I was just hinting to your “invitation” a couple of times to come to your hometown. That’s all.

    It’s all good. 😉

  533. SexyRockstar says:

    @Lainey
    you’re welcome. xoxo

    Okay, I must of missed SOMETHING, KMS got banned? Why? I am so confused

  534. Lainey says:

    @SexyRockstar LMAO.. I will now have that song stuck in my head ALL DAY! #ThanksInAdvance

  535. Lainey says:

    @JoJo think of what kind of man you like. Now tone it down a bit as to not make him so unrealistic and unattainable. NOW make your profile speak to HIM! Lol

    About Me = what attributes you have that appeal to HIM

    What You’re Looking For = Speak to HIM like he’s already it. If you choice to speak of your ideal man, be brief and not nitpicky as to not limit yourself too much. Express your boundaries, hinting at them not in detail. Be flirty. Maybe even include an innuendo (it eliminates the “prude” factor.) Subtle jokes and sexuality make you seem more approachable (NOTHING OVERT THOUGH)

    If you feel like you’re attracting too many after edit you can filter through them via email with your line of questioning.

    Hope this helps. Xo

  536. SexyRockstar says:

    whoa…KMS got banned?

  537. @Seeking Arrangement Customer Service

    I’m not sure what’s been posted regarding recent incidents as apparently the posts have been deleted.

    I am but one of the howevermany nonpaying members of this site, however, I would like to say that your recent censorship and conflict resolution practices are highly disappointing. There have been, and will likely always be times when discussions get heated. That such exchanges are regarded in the same manner as threats against one’s safety and well-being demonstrates poorly weighted discretion. Further, in considering your rationale, there are several among active bloggers to whom the same action would apply. Your current practice fails to facilitate a pleasant blog environment, and is more so a disservice in restricting bloggers whose contributions are acknowledged and appreciated by other users here.

    Your action of removing a blogger at the unwarranted, pestering request of a banned and bitter blogger neither addresses the bigger issue nor dismisses your own initial inaction in failing to moderate venomous posts directed toward children, and subsequently permitting said blogger to brazenly post and make threats under a different username.

    Kms has been a welcoming advocate for new members here, and offers helpful advice. Her disagreements (sans threats to her son) with other members have been mostly respectful, and definitely no worst than what’s been demonstrated by other bloggers on most every thread as far back as can be read.

    If what applies to one applies to all, then in all fairness, your action ought be applied across the board. Threats against ones person and children is a despicable league of its own. Kms’ access to the blog should be reinstated.

  538. SexyRockstar says:

    @Josh

    …eh, I honestly do not think you can handle this. My body is too…what do they say these days….bootylicious for ya babe 😉

    but thank you, you’re lovely. updated profile much better tho yeah?

  539. Very lovely, Lainey…thanks for sharing :).

  540. SexyRockstar says:

    @Lainey
    I am short. Buying pants are always fun. I’m just at 5’4. LOL, but i think my problem is, is that My former SD treated me so well…I really really miss him :( wwwaaahhhh.

    I went on a second date today, but from coffee date boy, I like him way more. Going on a third date with this one again over the weekend, and Ill see how great he is in the sack. It kinda depends on who is the better lay #MamaJustNeedsSomeGoodD

  541. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @SexyRockstar is fucking gorgeous AND she’s already invited me over. Her female intuition is working at 110%. THAT makes her even hotter. Xoxo 😉

  542. Lainey says:

    @SexyRockstar Lol its always crazy for me to think I’m half a foot taller than someone.

    Yea def put them up. From the way you describe them, sounds HOT!

    You’re super fucking cute and personality is amazing so I’m not at all surprised at the amount of meet request you’re receiving!

  543. SexyRockstar says:

    @Distany

    Make sure you’re messages are not coming off as desperate, that you have a ton of baggage (kids, drugs, really shitty finical problems), not saying you are doing this, but JUST incase you are..don’t. Seem fun, exciting, and that when they are with you, their problems are gone.

    For example, this is what NOT to do
    SD: you are so beautiful, what are you doing on here?
    YOU: I am a single mother and it’s hard to make ends meet. My kids are wonderful, ext ext.

    Now, a GOOD way to respond:
    SD; you are so beautiful, what are you doing on here?
    YOU: I enjoy a man who can (fill in the blank…say mentorship, mature, fun, great conversations, sex, blah blah blah)

  544. SexyRockstar says:

    @ Josh–only one new picture. You see my nose pericing
    e2c08488

    @Lainey
    I am 5’4 with a full C cup. I have the body where when I wear a skirt or a dress, my butt is too round and makes it too short. I am not fat, therefore you’re not a whale my dear. I love you tons xoxoxox. I put 5’5 because I wear a shit ton of heels, so I appear to be closer to 5’5-5’7 with them on. Sometimes 5’8…. and I will add some tattoo pictures for you too babe.

  545. JoJo says:

    @Lainey that’s great advice! it makes so much since not just for this site, but any online profiles period. I’m just not sure of the exact type I would prefer yet.

  546. Petite says:

    @NC Gent
    Really? Oh wow- It’s different for SBs then. AND WOW. Yeah, that’s messed up.

  547. Sunom says:

    There’s a great difference between travelling and being a tourist.

    If what you’re about to do is sit all day in your room or by the pool, you’re a tourist. If you want to explore (outside and in), you might consider yourself a traveler.

  548. NC Gent says:

    @Petite — no, even without a premium membership, an SD has the option of hiding their profile, which makes it all the more sketchy.

  549. Lainey says:

    @Ladies asking for profile help:

    Best advice I’ve read on these blogs is to gear your profile toward the type of SD you wish to attract. I’m personally fond of the “attached” variety (although my current is not). So, I’ve focused my profile to state things that he may be missing, voids that I’m able to fill. I make a GRAND “side-piece” LMAO

  550. Lainey says:

    Just updated it. Tig’oles and a smile. Sorry took so long was dropping off some Starbucks and “muffin” to SD

  551. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    When the time comes to write the profile…

    8. You make as many sentences you can write that contain “I”; and “princess”, “lady” and “spoil.”
    9. You make as many sentences you can write that contain “SD”/”you”; and “honest”, “communication”, “spoil” and “gentleman.”
    10. You put all of the sentences from #8 in the “About Me” section.
    11. You put all of the sentences from #9 in the “What I’m looking for” section.
    12. You select the budget as “High.”

    Tada!!! You are an SB with an ATTITUDE…

    13. Few weeks pass, then you change your budget to “Substantial.”
    14. Few weeks pass, then you change your budget to “Negotiable.”
    15. Few more weeks pass and you come back here for the whine and cheese event.

    SB Profile Expert…aka Josh Guru aka “King @Josh”

  552. Domygrl says:

    @Josh, is good to know some men like a little smoosh, when they squeeze us 😉

  553. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    *
    4a. If none of your friends own a minivan, you go to a pre-owned car dealership and pretend to be shopping for a minivan.
    4b. You sit in the driver’s seat and take a few selfies ensuring that none of the car dealership’s business assets are visible in the background.

  554. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    *2a. If the unflushed toilet bowl cannot be visible, then you throw/hang a few dirty (almost filthy) clothes somewhere in the bathroom to be visible in the selfies.

  555. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @Renee Roberts

    “Where do I start to become a sugar baby?”

    It typically starts with affirmations and a few selfies.

    1. You go the bathroom, look in the mirror and repeat 1001 time, “I am a sugar baby.”
    2. Then you take a selfie or two ensuring that unflushed toilet bowl is clearly visible.
    3. Then you go outside, sit in a minivan driver seat, and take a couple of selfies.
    4. If you don’t own a minivan, then you sit in the driver seat of a friend’s car to take selfies.
    5. Then you go to a friend’s house and take a few selfies with one-three friends who look like you.
    6. You create a profile on SA with the group photo as the main profile photo.
    7. The bathroom and the minivan photos go in the private section only to be revealed to special potential SDs.

    You are a full-fledge SB by this time.

    SB Profile Expert…aka Josh Guru aka “King @Josh”

  556. Lainey says:

    Lol. Ok @YGBKM @Josh

  557. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    I vote for big titties with dog in the middle.

  558. Where do I start to become a sugar baby?

  559. “Amalia says:
    October 23, 2014 at 8:52 am
    Anyone with common sense knows to take all this steps and even more to please your sugar daddy, haven’t learned anything from reading this but what i already knew”

    If nothing more, you learned that you’re doing all the right things. Someone, somewhere might learn a little something here.

  560. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @Domygrl

    “That is good to hear that a woman can be too fit ;)”

    It is a whole heck of a lot better than being barefoot and pregnant, if you ask me. 😉

    Is the shit storm brewing somewhere? 😉

  561. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @Distany,

    Finally got it.

    You have many problems with your profile. First off, your main photo is not good. Seems to be some odd angle that is not doing you any justice. The middle public photo is fantastic, but unfortunately it is out of focus. The full length photo is pretty good. You may want to use it as the main photo. But if you can get someone to retake the pose you have in the middle photo, your response rate would go through the roof.

    Other than that, your profile is a horrible reading. Dig deep, find some passion and fill the two sections.

    The “About Me” and “What I am Looking For” sections must be renamed to something along the lines of:

    What’s in it for you:

    This section explores the boundaries of what you are willing to offer in the arrangement.

    What’s in it for me:

    This section explores the boundaries of what you are expecting to get out of an arrangement.

    Now about the budget. Don’t put Negotiable. In sugar arrangements, women are horrible in negotiations. They expect men to shoot themselves on foot in the name of negotiations.

    The cost of living in your town is not that high. Actually, it is considerably less than the major population centers. It is up to you what you want, but unless you can articulate various NON-SEXUAL reasons for a man to pay you through the nose, I would suggest minimal to practical for your local market.

  562. Petite says:

    @NC Gent
    I would assume the reason your profile went from hidden to not is because profiles without premium membership don’t have the option to make their profile hidden. Just like your messaging priviledges were revoked. That said, it’s still sketchy.

  563. :) sugarplum…I like sugarplum

    Every time I see your avatar, I associate it with the context under which it was posted. If I provide the peanut butter cracker pasties, will you reinstate your tig ol bitties? I have access to tons of peanut butter cracker pasties…inside connection…don’t ask…no one speaks of the inside connection…it’s too risky.

  564. Distany says:

    @Domygrl I agree that is nice to know.

  565. Amalia says:

    Anyone with common sense knows to take all this steps and even more to please your sugar daddy, haven’t learned anything from reading this but what i already knew

  566. Domygrl says:

    “NC Gent says:
    October 23, 2014 at 8:10 am
    Distany — your “about me” and “what I am seeking” sections are too vague, short and somewhat cliche. You are incredibly fit, but I would say too fit for my taste. I like my women a little more feminine, and so do most of my friends. I would suggest deleting the picture in the gloves and the picture where you lower your workout pants to show you obliques. Best wishes!”

    That is good to hear that a woman can be too fit 😉

  567. Lainey says:

    Sup @Joshypoo? lol

  568. Distany says:

    sorry I forget that they have to be politically correct and say Caucasian not white.

  569. Lainey says:

    @YGBKM Yes, Sugarplum!

  570. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    Lainey dear!

  571. NC Gent says:

    oops I reviewed Destiny in GB because I didn’t find a destiny. I now see a “Distany” who is Caucasian in the coastal NC area. Please ignore my last post.

  572. NC Gent says:

    Distany — your “about me” and “what I am seeking” sections are too vague, short and somewhat cliche. You are incredibly fit, but I would say too fit for my taste. I like my women a little more feminine, and so do most of my friends. I would suggest deleting the picture in the gloves and the picture where you lower your workout pants to show you obliques. Best wishes!

  573. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    Can’t find Distany white in NC.

    You will have to share your profile url in the “Website” box when you post your next message or provide your profile id.

  574. Distany says:

    @JoJO I am having the same problem of meeting SD.

    @Josh or FlyR can you guys make some change suggestions on my profile. UserID: Distany white in NC

  575. NC Gent says:

    Yes — I was more concerned about it going from hidden to visible without my permission. There is no reason that this needs to happen, other than allowing some fake SBs to see my profile and message me. It is also insulting that they think I am stupid enough to believe that two smoking hot SBs from very far away are going to message me. I am sure these SBs, if they were real, would have no trouble finding someone closer, and they would not have to be initiating contact with an SD, especially an SD without pubic profile photos.

  576. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @Jojo

    Don’t give the exact name of your major. That makes you one Google search away from getting the name of the school you are studying at. Generalize the name of the major.

    This is how I would reword your statement:

    “A gentleman who is straightforward, respectful, and honest. I would like to have an arrangement with someone who I can have lively times with and someone who values my time as much as I value theirs. I would like to meet someone who stimulates my mind and makes me critically think, rather than generic relations.”

    Into:

    I would like to have an arrangement with someone who I can have fun and lively times with, who values my time as much as I value his, and who is straightforward, generous and respectful. I would like to meet someone who stimulates my mind and makes me think critically. I prefer to have such relationship instead of a “generic” romantic relationship between an man and a woman.

    SB Profile Expert…aka Josh Guru aka “King @Josh”

  577. flyR says:

    Yes –

    Not sure if it is not an SA bot that provides a lot of traffic the moment your membership expires. But it is concerning that a hidden profile goes public.

    They may also trip something that makes your profile go to the top of the search results (they are sorted by last update as default)

  578. NC Gent says:

    @SDs – yesterday my premium account expired. Upon expiration, the site now changes your profile from hidden to visible when you premium account expired. Interestingly, within one hour of my premium account expiring, I got messages from two smoking hot SBs that were over 500 miles away. Anyone other SDs experience this? Seems very sketchy to me. (Of course, I immediately upgraded to read what the hotties wanted from me — not!!)

  579. Distany says:

    I love reading blogs to see all the things that are talked about that have nothing to do with the actual writing.

    I wish I could get a SD that would want to take me on trips or even find one that wants to meet me. I am guessing that I need to change something on my profile.

    I would so just want a movie SD to take me and I am usually a cheap movie date lol.

  580. JoJo says:

    @Josh. Okay. I made changes to it now.

  581. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @JoJo

    *4. Know that with the same assets you have a WHITE girl would get a lot more inquiries. Get over it.

  582. JoJo says:

    Most of you are more experienced than I am so anything you have to say helps :). Even if it was in the wrong context.

  583. JoJo says:

    @flyR No I didn’t ignore you. But I know my profile has pictures and I know I didn’t have my allowance expected as “moderate”. I will heed your suggestions though.

  584. Lainey says:

    @SexyRockstar if you’re curvy than I’m a whale

  585. flyR says:

    JoJo obviously ignore what I wrote as it is the wrong profile…..

  586. flyR says:

    @RSD – Were all those disasters from the same SB??

  587. JoJo says:

    Thanks Josh! I’ll take your constructive criticism and revamp my profile.

  588. flyR says:

    filtering pot SBs

    In the days of the old English cars TR-3, Austin Healy etc you pretty much learned her sporting scale in the first half hour with the wind blowing , the rain only lightly filtered by the top and windows and all that before trying to get the car to run thanks to Lucas, prince of darkness.

    Unless I plan to be naked with the SB 80% of the time there’s the issue of being able to have a fun conversation for an hour or two or much more.

    This was recently brought home to me when I spent 48 hours with SB. The 2.5 hour drive out was an interesting series of conversations about fun things adventures, plans etc.

    We hiked , drank wine, played etc . No tv some music for entertainment.

    A huge value add vs someone who needs the TV, to go shopping , whines or talks gossip.

  589. JoJo says:

    @flyR I guess someone else used those same numbers.

  590. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @Jojo

    1. First of all, you are gorgeous. So don’t need to wonder in this department.

    2. Your main photo is kind of dramatic, but decent. You may keep it. You need to change all of the other photos. What’s the female fascination with photos containing multiple shots. Do you ever see men doing that. Maybe there are, maybe there are, but I haven’t seen any yet.

    3. Cut down both text sections by 50%.

    4. Know that with the same assets you have a while girl would get a lot more inquiries. Get over it.

    5. You need to differentiate yourself from the rest by being precise in your profile text. When you have cut the profile text by 50% each, I will edit it for you.

    SB Profile Expert…aka Josh Guru aka “King @Josh”

  591. flyR says:

    block copied the profile number and that’s what appeared .

  592. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @Domygrl

    “will have to remember that one!”

    For what?

  593. JoJo says:

    JohnnBee

  594. flyR says:

    @JoJo

    You list your allowance as practical, let’s say $1,500 per month and average sugar relationship of 6 months Total $9,000.

    The profile is pretty sparse for selling a $50 bookshelf on craigs list. You are probably not being fair to yourself.

    Start from the end – what do you want out of the relationship . What adds value for you. Do you differentiate between someone with a 6th grade education, $100,000 per year income (low level drug dealer) , divides his women into two groups super twerker and baby mama or a professional of some type (white or blue collar) , college grad, interests . Dealer probably has more interesting stories .

    What are you going to do for the SD that’s special. How is his life going to improve.

    Average description and no picture is going to be a hard sell if there’s competition in the neighborhood. Perhaps a picture with your face turned enough not to be recognizable.

    This is meant to be brief and focused not harsh. Most all of us started with a profile that has evolved.

  595. Domygrl says:

    Not having sex because my hair is still damp…will have to remember that one!

  596. Petite says:

    @RSD
    Ouch. I’m sorry =/, that really sucks. I can see why you’d be wary of traveling with anyone you met from here.

  597. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    What do you see in your About me section for XYZ?

    Username: XYZ

  598. RSD says:

    @Petite, Question: “Holy crap, where do you find these girls??”

    Answer: On Seeking Arrangement

  599. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    This id is NOT correct then. What is the tag or name used in the profile so that I can search with it?

  600. JoJo says:

    19. Black. Student. “Other” hair color

  601. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    Ok. Give some details about you. Age, ethnicity or something from the profile to correctly identify you. Don’t post city/state/country.

  602. JoJo says:

    No thats not my profile. It sounds like the total opposite of my profile.

  603. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    OK if I got your correct profile, you have been on the site for more than 2.5 years.

    You have a ghost profile without any photos or any interesting bio, and you live near one of the most boring cities in the world.

    Do you want to get serious or did you show up here for whine and cheese?

  604. JoJo says:

    @Josh yes, I’m supposed to put it in my headline, correct?

  605. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    Are you sure that it is a correct id?

  606. Petite says:

    @RSD
    Holy crap, where do you find these girls??

    @DorkyGuy
    I’m game :).

  607. JoJo says:

    @Josh okay it’s 941104

  608. flyR says:

    Trips

    I little interrogation helps Nothing worse than taking someone sailing only to find that they don’t want to get their hair wet, wear boat shoes or leave the tanning lotion at home. Same for rafting .

    Perhaps we should harness the collective wisdom of the gaggle and prepare two lists of standard questions to assess partner compatibility.

  609. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @JoJo

    Post your profile tag so that I can suggest what you need to do to attract decent SDs.

    –SB profile expert…

    aka Josh Guru aka “King @Josh”

  610. JoJo says:

    Does anyone have tips for a new SB who’s having trouble meeting SD’s in her area? I know the exist but they seem inactive or looking for more of an escort type . I don’t want to give up but I’m at a total standstill

  611. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @DorkyGuy

    “Do you think I am stupid?”

    Yes you are…

    but must you make dumb suggestions in addition to asking dumb questions?

  612. DorkyGuy says:

    @Josh~ There is no need to ask her to post it again. Just go into search, and check the “Viewed” checkbox to look at profiles you have Viewed. Should be able to find her in there. I always Favorite blog members for easy reference.

    @Kirsten/Petite~ I would like to do an email exchange with Petite if she’s game.

  613. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    And I don’t know how “curvy” you are. You were fully clothed with grainy photos before.

  614. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @Sexy

    I checked in the previous blog. They have removed the id. They may ignore tag. Try that. Or stick with id because you are sure that SA will remove it from the blog.

  615. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @Sexy I don’t have your id anymore. Please repost.

  616. sexyrockstar says:

    @Josh

    What do you consider fat? You saw my body picture…I’m curvy as hell but not fat…oohhh plus, I added one new picture on my profile, tell me what you think. I’m going to also post a picture tomorrow that shows off my tattoos :)

  617. RSD says:

    @Domygrl, you’re right, just cuddling and having dinner is not a good indication of adventuresomeness.

  618. Domygrl says:

    Hmm, you might want to test an SB, first. See if she will go hiking, biking or something outside with you on a date, first, before you take her out of town? To test her fun factor?

  619. RSD says:

    @Domygrl, yeah, I’m scared of travel with an SB now unless I know it won’t go poorly.

  620. Domygrl says:

    Wow, that is list of prissy ladies, RSD….

  621. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @DorkyGuy

    “Do you think I am stupid?”

    Yes you are…but must you ask dumb questions to expose yourself?

  622. RSD says:

    Examples of party-pooping SBs:
    -SB on hot air balloon ride gets a microscopic and invisible speck of dust in her eye, which she refuses to rinse out because it will mess up her mascara, and demands that the rest of the day’s activities be cancelled while her eye heals.
    -SB is taken to a restaurant with decks perched over a beautiful lake but refuses to sit outdoors because she’s too much of a princess to eat outside.
    -SB goes to beach trip but refuses to get wet, to sit in the sun, to ride a jet ski.
    -SB is on a trip and doesn’t want to go to dinner because her bf hasn’t texted her in a few hours and she’s upset.
    -SB is on a trip but wants to sleep the whole day instead of do anything.
    -SB is on a trip but refuses to have last morning check-out sex because her hair is still damp.

    Sadly all these have happened to me.

  623. WCSD says:

    @RSD – Exactly!

  624. SugarySpicey says:

    Dorky –

    Some people are too daft to answer questions, so I’ll let the Guru’s post do it:

    SD Guru says:
    February 23, 2014 at 6:35 pm
    Re: The offending post
    Spicey brought this issue to my attention this morning. I reviewed the offending post and found that it contained: (1) Her first name and the state where she’s located from an old blog post, which she had previously disclosed freely on the blog, (2) her pseudonym used to write her book …

    Then of course he blames the victim for “showing too much”, which I have repeatedly mentioned regretting, but I didn’t realize anyone would care to stalk me and cross such a huge line of human decency. Oops, my bad.

    Bored and over it.

    The rest of Josh’ threatening posts from that month to post my Avatar and additional personally identifying information were deleted, but if I dig long enough I’ll find the screen captures sent to Guru.

  625. RSD says:

    @liz, I don’t think you’re interpreting the statment, “Be prepared to do what he wants to do, since he is footing the bill,” correctly. It’s not saying, “He’s paying for the trip so put out,” which is probably implied in any sugar travel anyways, but “Don’t ruin his trip by being a party-pooping whiny-baby.” If the SB can’t participate in the trip’s planned highlights because it will smear her mascara, chip her nails, mess up her hair, etc, then she’s a party-pooping whiny-baby. Trust me, I’ve met plenty such people.

  626. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @Lainey

    “Lol @Joshy you were doing sooooo well..”

    ??????

  627. WCSD says:

    @liz – I agree and disagree with your statement. The SD is paying for the trip, so yes, you should be doing what he wants. If the trip is to go to the beach, and you want to spend the whole vacation hiking in the mountains, does that make any sense? You are to follow his agenda for the trip, OR choose not to go on the trip. Does this mean you can’t make suggestions for the itinerary, etc? Of course not, and I couldn’t imagine not involving my SB in those discussions, but in the end I’m the decision maker as I’m the financier. Where I agree with you is that you are NOT forced to do anything you don’t want to do. There isn’t a “I took you to see Wicked in NYC so now get on your knees and do ABC”. You have choice in everything. You can choose not to travel with me. You can choose not to go to Wicked with me…and I can choose not to bring you along the next time I make a trip.

    Travel with a SB is all about trust. I can’t imagine a trip with a SB where the itinerary is an issue, mainly because that is discussed before the trip takes place.

  628. Lainey says:

    Lol @Joshy you were doing sooooo well..

  629. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @liz

    I see. How about you foot the bill and do what you want?

  630. flyR says:

    @liz – Agree with your comments. one of the joys of travel or doing things is sharing new experiences.

  631. flyR says:

    @cupcakefun

    “Lowest” is relative. Its all about what YOU are willing to accept for what YOU are offering. It’s a very personal choice only YOU can determine that.””

    If you are dealing with someone whose singular interest is in the quantity and variety of sex and the cost you need to ask yourself where he sees you on the scale. It reeks of someone who is looking at SA as a cost cutting move from true professionals. That in turn brings in a whole new cluster of health concerns as there is such a high rate of drug use among pros (some driven to the business to cover the cost of drugs, availability of drugs for sex or simply the culture.

    As others have mentioned , until Dorky makes available the iPhone App MYSAVAL, you’ll have to make some guesses.

    However

    FIRST order of business is to think about what’s important to you.

    ADJUST profile to attract and motivate the SD group you want to reach

    TEST – test the market , do noon and early evening coffee M&Gs until you have a better feel,

    For most women who are comfortable “dating” over 40 I think there is an opportunity to improve the quality of the people you are with and receive sugar.

  632. liz says:

    ” do what he wants because he is footing the bill”? Im sure being so passive to that point is boring. So we are taking our time off to be “whisked away” to essentially be a tool to be utilized and can’t do or suggest anything we may want to do because everything is up to the SD to decide.

    Yes be appreciative but also have fun and it isnt fun if someone is deciding your every move because he feels he is entitled because hes “footing the bill”. Is he entitled to sex because he pays for dinner and thats what he wants?

    This article is a bit baise

  633. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @liz

    Care to elaborate?

  634. liz says:

    ew michael kors…..this site is so full of shit lol

  635. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @cupcakehun,

    Do you want to share your profile tag for us to know what assets, physical or non-physical you are working with?

  636. Lainey says:

    *exciting?

  637. Lainey says:

    How’s everyone’s day going? Anything exiting?

  638. RSD says:

    @cupcakehun, some people prefer relationships with little to no personal connection, while others are looking for more of a friends-with-benefits arrangement. I’ve been in both types. If the SB is hot but there is no connection, it can work short-term, but if I like her personally it is likely to last much longer. Also, this is not a boy-girl thing; some SBs prefer a sex-only type of fling, while others prefer something longer term and more personally and emotionally involved.

    As for how much, that depends on what the SB and SD are comfortable with.

  639. DorkyGuy says:

    @cupcakehun~ I want to offer you advice, but really, you need to hear from the girls. Their perspective will be much more helpful than anything any of us guys might have to say.

  640. Lainey says:

    @CupcakeHun If you don’t think his interest is genuine and it makes you uncomfortable than find someone who is on the same page as you.

    “Lowest” is relative. Its all about what YOU are willing to accept for what YOU are offering. It’s a very personal choice only YOU can determine that.

  641. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    Guru aka “King @Josh” says:
    October 22, 2014 at 2:14 pm
    @DorkyGuy

    “Do you think I am stupid?”

    Yes, but must you ask dumb questions?

  642. DorkyGuy says:

    Hey guys, I just heard from Kirsten. I think when we communicate with her about blog drama, we may be talking to the wrong person.

    It appears that Kirsten is in charge of PR, which doesn’t have anything to do with blog drama stuff. Mostly (it appears to me) it is content creation for the blog topics.

    As I understand it, inquiries related to all of this blog drama crap should go to the [a]support@seekingarrangement.com[a] address.

  643. DorkyGuy says:

    Hey guys, I just heard from Kirsten. I think when we communicate with her about blog drama, we may be talking to the wrong person.

    It appears that Kirsten is in charge of PR, which doesn’t have anything to do with blog drama stuff. Mostly (it appears to me) it is content creation for the blog topics.

    As I understand it, inquiries related to all of this blog drama crap should go to the support@seekingarrangement.com address.

  644. DorkyGuy says:

    A lot of my posts just went into moderation…

    @Kirsten, no worries. I understand you have a difficult job to do.

  645. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @Jacob,

    Everyone did unanimously ask you to refrain from bringing Kms2014′ child in the mix. Kms2014 is lovely lady.

    That said can we all just get along?

  646. Lainey says:

    I’m throwing @Jacob some ‘tang for his comment.. *catch*.. Lol

  647. cupcakehun says:

    I know this is completely off subject.I’m new to SD and was wondering is it okay for a pot. SD to talk about sex only clearly not taking any interest in my personality… Also I wanted to know, what’s the (general) lowest allowance per meeting or per month?

  648. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @DorkyGuy

    At what age did you realize that toilet paper was for sissies?

  649. DorkyGuy says:

    Ok, since you invited the next question:

    Josh, this isn’t a tough question. You have to know the answer.

    * She says she never posted her pen name, novel name, or real name to this blog.
    * She says that you did post those pieces of information to this blog.
    * You say “no-information-outside of-what-was-volunteerly-posted-by-the-said-blogger”.

    It is impossible for all 3 of those to be true. Which one specifically is incorrect?

    If one of her statements is incorrect, then please identify which one. If your statement is incorrect, then identify that. But not all three can be true.

    This is important, because if you did that to her, then you’re capable of doing the same thing to anyone else here.

  650. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @DorkyGuy

    “Do you think I am stupid?”

    Yes.

    Next question for Josh Guru aka “King @Josh”

  651. DorkyGuy says:

    Toilet paper is for sissies. I use sandpaper.

  652. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @DorkyGuy

    Which hand do you use toilet paper with?

  653. DorkyGuy says:

    @Josh~ 94.

    As if I would tell you my age to make it easier to narrow down my real identity? Do you think I am stupid?

  654. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @DorkyGuy

    How old are you?

  655. flyR says:

    RE TRust

    Foreploy n The practice of creating false expectations in advance of and as a vehicle to gain carnal knowledge of a female.

  656. DorkyGuy says:

    Josh, this isn’t a tough question. You have to know the answer.

    * She says she never posted her pen name, novel name, or real name to this blog.
    * She says that you did post those pieces of information to this blog.
    * You say “no-information-outside of-what-was-volunteerly-posted-by-the-said-blogger”.

    It is impossible for all 3 of those to be true. Which one specifically is incorrect?

    If one of her statements is incorrect, then please identify which one. If your statement is incorrect, then identify that. But not all three can be true.

    This is important, because if you did that to her, then you’re capable of doing the same thing to anyone else here.

  657. flyR says:

    “How can I trust my sugar daddy?”

    * Have his performance precede yours (have your sugar arrangement completed and perhaps half month allowance in your purse)

    * Don’t reward bad behavior

    * Put yourself in his shoes – You’re walking down Rodeo Drive, passing a shoe shop and you notice that they are putting out some high end shoes at impossibly low prices. You duck in and find the clerk marking the prices on the shoes has English as a third language and she’s obviously made a serious mistake on the shoes you always wanted.

    You say ?

    I’ll take a pair in red and one in black and add one in pink at $79.95
    or
    Miss, these shoes are much to valuable to sell for $79.95 price should be $799.95. I like them but I can not afford $799.95.

    Sugar works the same way. You have to decide what is a fair amount for what your SD will receive. It’s different for every relationship unless you simply value your body at X and put it in the showroom window.

    Trust your SD based on trust earned and your intuitive gifts.

    Ronald Regan ” Trust but Verify “

  658. Lainey says:

    Lol @Joshy. She went out of town to see an athlete and her SD popped up in our town and called her and she was in his state. He asked what she was doing there she said “seeing a friend I leave tomorrow”. He told her to stay he’d be back in two days. He paid for her room til he got back and then she stayed with him when he returned. The next day he booked her flight and dropped her off at airport. she passed inspection point but once she got to gate to board they told her they were canceled. Lol. How FUCKED UP IS THAT?! I think he knew she was visiting another man but hahaha damn bro at least be a gentleman about it. She then used the credit from her original ticket from the first guy and flew home.

  659. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @Lainey,

    “My GF did that once and he canceled her flight home.”

    May I have some dirt please! 😉

  660. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    Also thank you for the correct account of how you ended up at that bathroom. Me and lovely @Miz were wondering if it was possibility #2.

  661. NC Gent says:

    Thanks Kirsten — nice avatar! Need an SD?? joking of course!

  662. Lainey says:

    @SexyRockstar Yea I’ve NEVER let a SD get my tickets. My GF did that once and he canceled her flight home. ALWAYS purchase your own tickets! Unless of course you’ve been in a sugarship long enough to trust that a “spat” won’t get you left stranded

  663. Josh Guru aka "King @Josh" says:

    @SexyRockstar

    ‘when in rome, take a selfie’

    Oh thanks for pointing me to the correct verion of the idiom. I had always thought “when in ROOM, take a selfie” 😉

  664. SexyRockstar says:

    @Josh

    For my Radio Shack bathroom..I was shopping there, and I had to use the bathroom. My shirt was slightly unbuttoned anyway, so I’m all ‘when in rome, take a selfie’

    So, that is the story of that picture.

  665. SexyRockstar says:

    The dumbest thing I ever heard is an SB traveling across the country/to another country on a first meet. I have done out-of-state arrangements, but, on the first meet, he HAS to come to me. I would NEVER EVER travel with someone unless I’ve been in an arrangement for at least 3 months. NO WAY. It’s all about safety.

    My advice:
    1.) If flying, purchase tickets on your own, snap a picture of them, almost as a proof of purchase to your SD, have him pay you back. This way, the SB can always cancel the tickets, get her money back if he doesn’t pay, and as an SD, you know that money is exactly for the tickets, not her lying about ‘not just running away once she gets the money’

    2.) If you can’t afford to do this, THEN DON’T TRAVEL. EASY. If you do not have the funds in order to leave the trip on your own time, then don’t go. Anything can happen. This is why I always build a trusting relationship FIRST.

    3.) If an SD lives in a different state, go see him, not the end of the world, but if he flakes on you, find something else to do in the area.

    4.) SDs..please at least give her enough sugar allowance that covers cost of gas, PLUS whatever you two agree on. Otherwise, you come out to her.

    5.) Thank you for your time :)

  666. Halcyon Deys says:

    Hi, this is Halcyon from Perth, Australia. So I’m on both SA and MT. I’ve met some absolutely incredible people on both sites, and travelled with a select few. The diversity of the SDs I’ve met both astonishes me, and keeps me intrigued: barrister, professional windsurfer, architect, pyrotechnics designer, navy officer, ex-pilot (now an aviation consultant), textiles exporter, resort owner. There is something to learn from all my SDs, even the ones who don’t work out. I love learning.

    In 2011 I came to the site as a very travel-savvy entrepreneur who didn’t have time for a traditional relationship. I know how to fly business class on a budget, wrangle several frequent flyer accounts and am just as comfortable in a tent as I am in an executive suite. I just came back from riding a horse through the Himalayas. My handle on LinkedIn is “adaptable”. But I am not rich – I’m just seem to have a talent for life-hacking.

    In daily SB life, I’m not a ‘spoiled princess’, nor a ‘weekly indiscretion’ and definitely not ‘pay for play’ … so I don’t take these labels into my SA/SD/SB travel either. I know I am a lucky cat to be gifted travel and I make sure I express my appreciation clearly and genuinely to all my SDs. That’s not a euphemism – to me it’s about honest clear communication. A sycophant though, I am certainly not.

    Every SD is different, the interplay and boundaries are always unique to each pairing. I think that’s what I love about this scene, that nothing is off-the-rack, everything is bespoke. Trust takes time and I have realised recently that I’m an SB who’s in it for the long haul. I don’t care for short-term gain, any other boobalicious biatch with headless body-shots can access that.

    But to me … money, travel (hey, sometimes even good sex!) … it’s all a bonus. SA/MT just adds some deliciously non-mainstream sweetness to the already awesome ride that is my life : )

    Hope that doesn’t come across as too pretentious. My SA/MT experience may not match their web-marketing’s key messages, but right now, I feel like I’m living the dream.

    Halycon xx

  667. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey you’re claiming you “already apologized” then you know what you did. Soooo Yea pointless.

    But back to the Josh thing. So you’re saying your comment was 2 yrs ago and he brought it up recently?

  668. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey @Joshy OK this is getting STUPID! You’re dwelling on something that happened “TWO YEARS AGO”.. Asking that he apologize and promise it not happen again. Ummm has it happened again since the first time “TWO YEARS AGO”? NO! So stop being a frickin plunger and bringing up old shit.

    Faaaawwwck at least when I bicker its about the very relevant post above mine. Not some phantom 2 yr old post that no one recalls

    @Joshy I fully believe she attacked you because she did the same to me. Some people are threatened by strong personalities. And whether you posted her info or not, that all goes back to me saying “for every action there is a reaction and we must accept that we can not control how others react.”

    I’d just apologize to shut her up. No matter how insincere. Something along the lines of “I’m sorry you feel that way”

  669. Lainey says:

    @AizaPerida explain in what aspect you are looking to “trust” him

  670. Josh Guru aka King @Josh says:

    @Aiza Perida

    “How can I trust my sugar daddy?”

    Through daily affirmations first thing in the morning. Pull his photo on you phone and repeat 1001 time “I trust you thee, my lord SD” while looking at him right in the eyes.

    Next question for Josh Guru. 😉

  671. Aiza Perida says:

    How can I trust my sugar daddy?

  672. Aiza Perida says:

    Hello

  673. Josh Guru aka King @Josh says:

    @FatB’StardSA

    “@PriceySpicey

    If you did not post information about your book on the blog then where did Josh get it from?

    😉

  674. SugarySpicey says:

    Softi, when I received a review in a national publication I posted a comment about a specifically harsh thing that was said in the review, foolishly, those words were such a unique thread of insult that Josh just had to Google them to find me. It is VERY weird, that SINGLE post was nearly TWO YEARS ago.

  675. SugarySpicey says:

    Josh – did that girl you listened to, who was charming, witty, and delightful who explained what that book meant to me, and why, deserve to have YOU link that book to SA for others who don’t understand SA to judge? Did she deserve to have her career ruined and her name besmirched over a kink because you don’t like a few of my BLOG comments?

    Why do you continue to insist that what you did was fine, and why do you refuse to see the gravity of your actions in my life?

    I was very proud of that accomplishment. Have you ever finished a novel? Have you ever written something that created real buzz and kudos among writers? Have you ever had a complete stranger take that away from you and then laugh at your frustration and refuse to apologize or backdown? To this day that book is buried because you have never once apologized and guarenteed it will never hapen again.

  676. FatB'StardSA says:

    @PriceySpicey

    If you did not post information about your book on the blog then where did Josh get it from? The fact that he went through the entire back history of blog posts to find out about you is weird but it is clear that he is obsessed with this blog.

  677. SugarySpicey says:

    Softi – if Josh thinks a couple bucks a month gives him permission to post my personally identifying information what does that same amount give me?

  678. FatB'StardSA says:

    @PriceySpicey

    You need to write a guide on how to play the victim.

    “Report will be sent to the fraud department, as soon as my “PAID” membership is approved.”

    Looks like Josh will have to get the diamond membership package. Money talks and bullshit walks!

  679. SugarySpicey says:

    Calm, but confounfed as to why you won’t just admit what you did, and admit it was in bad taste.

    We all know what you did. We ALL saw it and saw it get deleted. So why refuse to back down? That’s the troubling part. If you think posting someone’s private information is okay. If you think harassing someone with the intent of sending to the emergency room is okay (through your hands or your harassment) you are a menace. And either way, you’re in flagrant violation.

    That person in my past is no longer an issue. I’m not suffering from long-term PTSD. In February you sounded like him. That hasn’t been discussed or at issue for months. It’s a non-issue now, I was just answering Dork’s question.

  680. DorkyGuy says:

    My work day is turning busy. It’s the good kind of busy (new clients!)

    I’ll check back in with you guys and gals later. Until then, try not to kill each other, literally or figuratively 😛

    Josh, I know you’ll find it annoying, but I’ll keep coming back to that same question. Mostly because I haven’t seen the correspondence, and I don’t know the answer. The answer is important to me personally because I need to know how much you can be trusted, if we are going to be sharing this same space.

  681. Josh says:

    I am going to cut down the number of responses. I cannot keep up with people sitting at home while being paranoid.

    As FB says, “Have a nice lay.”

  682. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    I prefer that you don’t copy-paste our private email exchange verbatim. If you wish to paraphrase then, please go ahead.

  683. Josh says:

    I have no information about SugarySpicey. I have no intention to harm anyone in real life. She is merely paranoid because her life choice have led to her paranoia which is not my fault.

  684. SugarySpicey says:

    Elaine, you didn’t see it because it was deleted immediately. You did see that he refuses to recognize that it was wrong, and more concerningly, has escalated his threats into putting me into the emergency room. Considering he has my personal information, his threats MUST be taken seriously by SA.

  685. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    Yes you did.

    But to complete, I will also post my repetitive answers to you: “Then stop feeding this fire”

  686. DorkyGuy says:

    Josh, this isn’t a tough question. You have to know the answer.

    * She says she never posted her Nom-De-Plum or novel name to this blog.
    * She says that you did post those pieces of information to this blog.
    * You say “no-information-outside of-what-was-volunteerly-posted-by-the-said-blogger”.

    It is impossible for all 3 of those to be true. Which one specifically is incorrect?

    If one of her statements is incorrect, then please identify which one. If your statement is incorrect, then identify that. But not all three can be true.

  687. SugarySpicey says:

    Josh –

    What part of I NEVER posted my nom de plume and the name of my novel on this blog don’t you understand?

    What part of YOU DID write my Nom De Plume and the name of my novel on this board, on purpose, with intent to humiliate, harass, and threaten me and then REPEATEDLY threatened to post more personally identifying information on this blog (that you found about me off blog not on) even AFTER your original post was removed and you were warned to stop don’t you understand?

    Are you really this incapable of logic?

    Let’s make it real simple:

    Spicey = posted some oblique references to herself
    Josh = posted Spicey’s Nom De Plume and novel name
    Posting Nom De Plume and novel name = Bad

    Either you’re a complete moron, or you undersrand the grave difference (if you don’t at least Guru did) but refuse to apologize.

    Why is that so hard for you? You DID something terribly shitty. Just as shitty as threatening to put me in the emergency room yesterday for which you refuse to apologize.

    Since you cannot see why it is bad to post my Nom De Plume, which immediately linked to my real name you are a threat to the blog community, even with an apology you are in violation of the TOS in multiple ways. You should be banned. Report will be sent to the fraud department, as soon as my “PAID” membership is approved.

    P.S. – I didn’t realize a few bucks gave you the impression it was okay to out someone’s personal information and violate written User Submission requirements.

  688. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy

    I stand my ground unless proven otherwise. I am not going to admit some kind of paranoia induced guilt.

    Anyone who wants to start with clean slate is more than welcome to do so, for the good of the blog.

  689. Josh says:

    Thanks @Elaine.

    And please tell anyone who is interested at all, how many times I have expressed in private emails that I have NOTHING against the real person behind the SugarySpicey persona, and my wish for her to calm down for the good of the blog?

    I have expressed similar thoughts in private with other bloggers, including SD Guru.

  690. DorkyGuy says:

    She says she never posted her Nom-De-Plum or novel name to this blog. She says that you did post those pieces of information to this blog. You say “no-information-outside of-what-was-volunteerly-posted-by-the-said-blogger”.

    It is impossible for all 3 of those to be true. Which one specifically is incorrect?

  691. Josh says:

    What part of no-information-outside of-what-was-volunteerly-posted-by-the-said-blogger do you not understand?

    Jesus Christ!

  692. Lainey says:

    Aye @Elaine. New avatar just for you.

    THIS is what it looks like when you have my name in your mouth this early in the morning.

    Enjoy!

  693. Elaine says:

    As far as Josh, I remember how SS thought he was The Pirate, and maybe that was understandable, given her situation then.

    I was not blogging at that time, or maybe have just missed the post in which he “revealed” her personal data, so cannot say anything about that.

    I have only seen things worsen from then, with SS getting more paranoid, and Josh feeding that fire.

    As having been the victim of a stalker myself, I understood her fear, but at the other hand, I also have to say that Josh could have very easily trace all my personal data from our emails exchange, and he NEVER did, nor abused my trust in him. I admit he can react weird at times, but I don’t think he is a bad person.

    Nor have I ever had the feeling he could be “dangerous” in any way.
    I don’t always agree with him, but that never escalated, we just agreed to disagree and moved to another subject.

    In fact, there have been other bloggers about whom I have had more doubts about their good intentions!

    For what it is worth….

  694. Josh says:

    *SugarySpicey is paranoid. I am not responsible for her life choices of getting involved with wacky people and then running from them afterwards.

  695. DorkyGuy says:

    Josh, I am attempting to be straight with you and avoid illogical rabbit trails. That is why I am trying to stay on point.

    “Are you intentionally dense or this is your act to get a role in TV?”

    I am not going to reply in kind by littering my response with insults. I am trying to maintain an orderly conversation that is on topic.

    Let me try to explain.

    Having a personal conflict on this blog is par for the course. FB and Spicey have been at each others’ throats for years. It happens. That kind of conflict on its own should certainly never lead to a ban. If what you have with other people here were only “interpersonal friction”, then that’s tough titties for everyone.

    However, in the progress of arguing and debating our points, there are certain lines that we don’t cross. One of those is that we don’t attempt to harm each other IRL, or post identifying information.

    Look at it this way. It is within my technical capability to farm the blog for the email addresses used to post to this blog. There is a real technique whereby this information may be obtained. Regardless of how your and my personal conflict might degrade, I would never use that technique on you to come out on the blog and say “Josh is John Smith from xxxx, here is how you can reach him”.

    Why not? Well, how the hell do I know that one of your kids might not find that someday? Maybe it would hurt them to find out about your sugar activities. That isn’t my decision to make. Or maybe you have a religious sibling or parent? What if they found this thread on Google thanks to me posting that information?

    Regardless of our online conflict, it is not justifiable for me to escalate it to *actually* harming your *actual* real life relationships.

    This is not to do with “I don’t like Josh”. It has to do with “posting someone else’s personal information to the blog violates their privacy”.

    Since you and I clearly have friction, how do I know you won’t do the same thing to me… go through my long blog history, find where I slipped up in sharing personal information, deduce my real identity, and then post it here with the result of increasing Google relevance? I have two daughters and a brother that are all religious and would be devastated if they knew I were here.

    Somebody who doesn’t respect those boundaries is dangerous to have around.

    Is that clear and logical enough for you?

  696. Lainey says:

    @Elaine AGAIN, I don’t care. Glad that since I’ve entered the blog you’ve only jumped on to make negative rants.

    Proud to know I’ve had such an impact on your mental space.

    P.S. My FIRST avatar was my picture. The FIRST time you verbally “attacked” me you were looking at it every time you read my response. How soon the bully has forgotten. Did NOT care then. Do NOT care now!

  697. Josh says:

    Neither are your point points 1 or 2. So where shall we start from?

  698. Josh says:

    *SD Guru saw through the whole game and refused to ban me.

  699. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy

    Are you intentionally dense or this is your act to get a role in TV?

    I did not start attacking her. I was minding my own business making then controversial statements. That’s called dare to be different. And I will continue to do so.

    SugarySpicey and friends attacked me first the same way many bloggers attacked Lainey and continue to so. They had hoped that they could boot me off. SD saw through the whole game and refused to ban me.

    None of the information posted was from outside sources. It was a short statement from the data provide by SugarySpicey on the blog itself. The information was promptly removed by SD Guru and I had no problem with that information being removed.

    SugarySpicey is paranoid. I am not responsible for her life choices of getting involved with wacky people and the running from the afterwards.

    She is out of sugar life, and not a member of SA. Why hang around here at the blog and try to influence who should be here or banned?

  700. DorkyGuy says:

    Josh, none of your hypothetical 3-7 points are in fact true.

    Let’s stay on point please.

  701. Elaine says:

    Thank you Jainey, for posting your picture as avatar!

    Puts everything you have said immediately in the right place.

    It starts getting funnier the more bs you post and contradict yourself.

    But as you proudly ” confessed”; you are a sociopath, so we will just laugh about your stories and move on in the real world :-).

  702. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy continues…

    3. I don’t care what is logical or illogical please ban Josh.

    4. Please ban membership paying Josh so that a non-member, not involved in sugar person may post with impunity. Pretty please.

    5. I have given 4 illogical reasons to ban Josh. Don’t you get it?

    6. I have given 5 reasons now. Please ban Josh.

    7. This is the 7th illogical reason to ban Josh. Why do you want me to continue with my illogical reasoning?

  703. DorkyGuy says:

    Two separate issues. Let’s keep them clear so as to avoid deflection.

    1) There is a possibility that you could be a real life stalker from her real life past, which now appears more likely to be true than less.

    2) Regardless of whether the above is true, you have admitted to posting personally identifying information to the blog to attempt to shred her anonymity. That must not be evaded. You are trying to evade it by confusing it with issue #1 above.

    If either of the above are true, you should be banned without another moments hesitation.

    #2 would be tolerable if you were contrite. However, you are not, so nobody else who values their anonymity on this board can think that you won’t do the same damn thing to them, given the opportunity.

  704. Josh says:

    Now my time to psychoanalyze sweetheart.

    I write Josh. You read Pirate. I think that’s been my “fault” all along.

    How sure are you now that Josh is not equal to Pirate?

  705. SDW says:

    Is there a forum for SDs to discuss the ins and outs of sugar-daddying anywhere? I know there’s a few for SBs, but I haven’t found any for the daddies.

  706. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey – my Dad was just an example, he would just laugh and want details. I have my reasons, and they’re good, and I’m not sharing them, and Josh just refuses to backdown on something he knows was wrong.

  707. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey

    “I’m not goody two shoes over the book, I don’t want my DAD to find the SA life!”

    What’s so bad about sugar that poppa dukes would trip? You’re a GROWN ASS WOMAN

  708. DorkyGuy says:

    Oh good grief. That was a heartless answer.

    Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should and it doesn’t make it right.

    I am now nauseated and going to bed. Josh, don’t be a dick. If you actually did what she claims, you owe her a fucking apology.

  709. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    “I really like ME! Lol”

    Then show some skin, will ya!

  710. Josh says:

    Sweetheart, if I read you correctly, your SA life is over by choice.

    Also, if I read you correctly, your SA life had not much to do with money, but it had to do with kink.

    So what’s wrong with your SA life?

    Unless what you have been telling us what your SA life has been was edited?

    Once again, those who don’t want exposure tread lightly. You cannot demand to be the queen of the blog and expect complete anonymity. Does not work that way.

  711. SugarySpicey says:

    I am sensitive, you just can’t hear it because you hear the chariacature you’ve built of me. I share very personal, vulnerable elements here, and in an SB Blog I used to write which was followed by many of the old timers which has now been deleted.

    I don’t know why this is so hard for you to hear so I will say it aain Josh listen to these words:

    I did ever, would never, have never posted my Nom de Plume or Novel name on this blog. You did that, then threatened that you were going to use the cover as your Avatar.

    That is the problem! That is the difference. It’s like Lainey saying she works in fashion and then me posting the name of her family business so when people Google that company the blog feed shows up on page one. THAT is what you did.

    I’m not goody two shoes over the book, I don’t want my DAD to find the SA life!

  712. Lainey says:

    @DorkyGuy @Joshy I really like ME! Lol

  713. Josh says:

    Fair enough.

    Write like the charming person I think you are and I will support you. Deal?

  714. SugarySpicey says:

    Regarding my “persona” vs. Myself, I AM harming and funny (and the most humble person I know) you just can’t hear it because you came on the blog kicking and screaming that women are illogical and calling me a liar and we started off at odds, coloring your perception.

    Having been backhanded in a parking lot in Istanbul only days before may have affected my mood toward what I view as “BAD SDs” as well.

    You’ve heard how charming and delightful I am, neutral bloggers in the past corroberated that my appearance (and career success) and yet you insisted on calling me a liar even though I can prove that what I say is a real portrayal, when what’s wrong is your perception. There’s no font for witty banter or tongue-in-cheek self flattery so you’ve built a chariacature of me and only read what I say through that lense, but it isn’t my lense, it’s what you’ve built to look at me through.

    Regarding mistaken identity, you did come onto the blog about a week after a particularly unpleasant exchange with the man those who know me understand why I call the Pirate. You wrote like him and you attacked my every word with the sheer hate he developed (in truth we both developed) as things ending, which is why I offered a phone call multiple times to clear up your misperception and mine.

    I’m delightful in person, I don’t understand why you refuse to take me up on that when it would solve your misperception (as you’d gain tone) and prove that you aren’t who I think you are: either him, or a troll.

  715. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey

    Don’t act all tough in here and then turn around and get all sensitive.

    I DID NOT. I repeat I DID NOT attack you first. I just made some controversial comments and everyone attacked me with you leading the pack.

    So don’t blame me. When you attack someone you don’t know how they will respond.

    Also, don’t say that you are allowed to post your own information in piecemeal but others are not allowed to post all of your supplied information in one place.

    It was YOUR data which came back to haunt you WITHOUT me knowing how and why you wanted to be so provocative on one hand and goody two shoes in other realms of your life.

  716. DorkyGuy says:

    @Lainey~ Go with something you really like.

    Some of us are really tired of conflict, and “irking the hell out of your detractors” is kind of a dick move to everyone who isn’t your detractor, and has to read the drama.

    So what’s something you really like? I mean besides “irking the hell out of your detractors” 😛

  717. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    There are basically two options:

    1. Something you really like

    2. Something you know will irk the hell out of your detractors.

  718. Lainey says:

    @Josh I too want to change my avatar. What type of photo should it be?

  719. SugarySpicey says:

    Josh I did respond to your emails, multiple times, explaining the difference between my vague references to comments and you actually posting my name, my nom de plume, my book name, and geography in one single post that would all get Google indexed together during a critical month when I was openly promting my book, on the radio and having just landed two really great reviews in local papers, which required making appearances as my real self. The fear is not someone ftom in here finding THAT, the fear is someone from out there finding THIS and you drew a map on my forehead in magic marker.

    The oblique references I made enabled you to seek and find, but what you did meant that if someone were Googling my nom de plume it would put SA in the first page search results. I have explained this to you no fewer than half a dozen times. I would NEVER have posted my Nom de Plume on this site. My PARENTS, my friends, hundreds of people know who is behind that name.

    Why do you refuse to understand the difference?

  720. Lainey says:

    @Josh Lol. I don’t give a shit. I’m just “Joshin” ya

  721. Josh says:

    DorkyGuy

    ““Are you really Brad Pitt?”

    That wasn’t intended to be a real question. I know you aren’t Brad Pitt, LOL”

    I never answered whether I claimed to be Brad Pitt or not. The avatar is a satire on people’s idiotic comments on my Angelina Jolie look-alike FWB, just like my previous avatar was a satire on incessant shoe-talk that used to occur on this blog few months ago.

  722. flyR says:

    Y’all have a good night . It’s evening out here in CA and way past your bedtime back there on the Left Coast. If yr not shaking sugar you ought to be sleeping.

  723. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    “LMAO @Josh. Not nice! I’m a fatso Lmao”

    Again, no disrespect was intended. Would you have rather I used “A few extra pounds” 😉

  724. DorkyGuy says:

    @FlyR~ That is interesting. Can a girl fill out the questionnaire based on observing the guy, or does the guy have to fill it out himself?

    What would be really useful would be some way a girl could test a guy just by observing him.

    @Josh~ lol, I didn’t acknowledge Spicy’s a bitch. I don’t think she is. I get along with her just fine. I acknowledged that FB calls her a bitch, lol!

    Re: The “DorkyGuy” nic that you thought was preposterous. I have no attachment whatsoever. No real thought put into choosing it. I just picked something that I thought vaguely described me. People either like me or they don’t… no skin lost. Every once in a while, I’ll look at it, and think “that name sucks”, but I don’t care enough to change it.

    “Are you really Brad Pitt?”

    That wasn’t intended to be a real question. I know you aren’t Brad Pitt, LOL

  725. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy

    “Are you really Brad Pitt?”

    Everything I do is public. I posted, loud and clear, the reason for choosing Brad Pitt’s photo. I chose it when people made fun of my Angelina Jolie look-alike FWB.

    See every action has a reaction, and I know how to react with a better punch than anyone else can. Call it arrogant, or call it matter of fact…it don’t matter (and I do know the grammar to some extent, but “don’t” is for an effect.)

  726. flyR says:

    several mentioned the work of Gavin deBecker regarding threat assessments for social situations .

    For more information google mosaic threat assessment

    If you are interested you’ll get access to some very sophisticated software developed by deBecker and associates to use on your own SD or domestic partner. It’s designed to evaluate typical threats and bad SD may not be one of them but it should give you some great ideas,

    His questionnaire/evaluation form used to be the standard used by many police departments to assess the probability of domestic violence. It had 20 questions and something like 12 affirmative answers was a strong probability of violence . OJ scored a perfect 20 but unfortunately Nicole was already burried by the time they ran OJ through the test.

  727. DorkyGuy says:

    FlyR~ Amen!

    On a much more positive note, since that M&G didn’t pan out, I am putting together an email blast to send out. It is a whole lot more fun looking through profiles knowing I plan to meet the person.

  728. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    “LMAO @Josh. Not nice! I’m a fatso Lmao”

    Hey if you let me do what I want to, then I will call you what you want me to call you. 😉

  729. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy

    “FB: “You can’t be Spicy. you’re not actually a bitch.””

    Interesting that you do acknowledge the persona as a “bitch”. 😉

    One of the problems with some the Western society is that people are under immense pressure to invent something. If they cannot invent something useful, they will create something idiotic.

    Personally, deep down, I don’t give a shit about the Josh “persona.” It is a means to an end. If someone can convince me logically that it needs to change, I will change it. I don’t give a shit. I will evolve the persona for the good of sugar; which I love. Mmmmmm…

  730. flyR says:

    The truly sad thing about all this BS is that it detracts from the more productive discussion of great sex which is a vastly more interesting subject.

  731. Lainey says:

    LMAO @Josh. Not nice! I’m a fatso Lmao

  732. Josh says:

    @SexyRockstar

    I got a fatso lined up now. Well, not really lined up, but she went through my rapid-fire emails to get decent pictures of her.

    It took forever to get her to send a boob shot. I told her that I did not need to see skin, but I could not go any further without seeing the shape.

    She finally fessed up. When she sent photos she was whining about her hair not in shape. Who the fuck looks at hair. Women worry too much about shit.

  733. DorkyGuy says:

    Oh yeah, and FB and Flyr would be at the bar swapping stories, lol!

  734. Lainey says:

    My SD just laughed AT me. Not quite sure how I feel about that.

  735. DorkyGuy says:

    @Josh~ I think all of us have personas on the blog that are different than real life. Are you really Brad Pitt?

    I don’t know… I think the blog format lends itself to venting, and to expressing things we never would in real life. It also lends itself to huge problems caused by misinterpreting tone.

    If everyone from the blog were to meet at a party, and none of us were allowed to say who we were on the blog (so we couldn’t carry in drama), I bet there would be some huge surprises. First, I bet there would be a lot less drama. Second, we would be stunned at how different people were than what we thought.

    I would bet $100 that we would find FB and Spicy making out just before the identity reveal. I know that would happen.

    Spicy: “You can’t be FB. You’re not actually a bastard.”
    FB: “You can’t be Spicy. you’re not actually a bitch.”
    *Shocked expressions, dim the house lights, audience applause*

  736. flyR says:

    @ FB – The truth was relevant to the discussion . . . . .

    The trashcans of history are full of the arrogant residue of corporations and men who refused to listen to their customers.

  737. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy,

    I have said many times on the blog in public, and to a few bloggers I communicate privately. I like the flesh and blood real person behind the SugarySpicey “persona.”

    However, I have serious reservations about this specific persona. As long as this persona attacks me I will respond in kind.

    The real woman behind the persona seems to be a lovely woman. I wish that this real woman posts as her real self and help the struggling SBs.

  738. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy

    Believe it or not, when I heard SS’s radio interview, I wished WHY o WHY this woman in the radio interview cannot post as she was sounding on the radio interview. Such a charming woman, in real life and such a wacky “persona” on the blog!!!

    But SS was/is hell-bent in maintaining her “persona” on the blog to create drama galore.

  739. DorkyGuy says:

    @Josh~ The story of the Pirate is not mine to tell. However, if you appeared to be the Pirate, and are not actually the Pirate, that would be tragic.

    If that is what is actually happening here, then a Skype session could clear a whole lot up.

  740. DorkyGuy says:

    Blast, missed my last chance at a movie, and my CRT now looks like a gumball machine since discussing home theaters.

    Time for a good book!

  741. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy

    “Is there *any possibility* that there is a case of mistaken identity, whereby SS thinks Josh is someone who has harassed her in real life, but isn’t actually the same person?”

    I think that this is one of the most interesting observations you made. As soon as SS and I had some issues, I asked SD Guru to exchange our emails. I sent emails to her and she would not respond to them. Later on she told me that she would not respond to my emails because she had though that I was “Pirate.”

    I did not know who the fuck Pirate was. As far as I was/am concerned, it is a figment of SS’s imagination. Who knows!!!

    SS has not tried to resolve anything amicably. Every cordial gesture from me has been responded to by demands. One example of which you can see above.

  742. DorkyGuy says:

    @Josh~ I don’t know the specifics of what you supposedly posted and when, or whether that information is available elsewhere on this site. I just wanted to explore the possibility of a mistaken identity. It seems that is not the case.

    Regarding proxies… I understand a new person to the blog not understanding why proxies are a touchy subject.

    Proxies are generally discouraged, unless they are *really* obvious proxies. The reason is that it’s important to know who really needs help and who doesn’t. Important issues are discussed here. We don’t want people withholding advice because they suspect the questioner might be a proxy just messing with their head.

    Every once in a while, someone might throw out a proxy like *DorkyGuy’s Dog*, or “Josh’s Lawyer” which is very obviously a proxy, and used to humorous effect. That’s all good fun, but everyone knows it’s a proxy.

    Anyway, there are real reasons they are discouraged, and not just “DG doesn’t like them”.

    I don’t know of any regular poster to this site that uses proxies, except in the way described above. Every regular poster is a legit, separate individual, most of whom I have corresponded with outside the blog.

  743. Lainey says:

    Lol @SugarSpicey point taken. I was just being petty. Lol. My comment wasnt serious. Clearly what you guys have going on is not as trivial as all my hostile encounters

  744. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy,

    I have not done anything to threaten anyone on this blog or any other blog in my life. Any information re-posted was available on this very blog, which SugarySpicey posted herself and wished that may have wished that she did not.

    As a new blogger to the site, I would not know what anyone was sensitive to. I am a very savvy blogger so I will see things others don’t. The bottom line is that if I don’t want anyone to know something, I don’t post it. If I posted it, then it is public knowledge.

    Case in point is TurnipWagonSD. Since I suspected fake proxies on the blog, so did others whom I communicate through email. It was supposed to evolve as a clueless SD who asked stupid questions. Everything I do is open. I am fully able to defend my positions. AND I don’t have to resort to physical harm to anyone let alone to a petite, single mom. Come on now!!!

  745. DorkyGuy says:

    Thinking outside the box…

    Is there *any possibility* that there is a case of mistaken identity, whereby SS thinks Josh is someone who has harassed her in real life, but isn’t actually the same person?

    Josh, is there any truth to the claim that you posted personally identifiable information about her, or information that would link her blog persona to the book she wrote, which ultimately damaged her in real life? Is that something you actually did, or not?

  746. DorkyGuy says:

    @FB: Have a nice day :)

  747. FatB'StardSA says:

    My work is done here…

  748. FatB'StardSA says:

    About retards:

    I am a retard myself which gives me the right to poke fun at fellow retards.

  749. DorkyGuy says:

    LOL~ Looks like FB has dropped by for a dramatic entrance. Hand grenades away!

  750. FatB'StardSA says:

    @SugarySpicey

    I don’t know in real life. As for your blog persona:

    You are an idiot, bitter, paranoid, and delusional. You are a woman who has harassed, bullied, intimidated, abused, and threatened many blog posters one time too many.

    IT STOPS NOW!

  751. Josh says:

    “My comments do not apply to “SD Guru” who really is a cool guy!”

    Where art thou SD Guru?

  752. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey

    “Josh – I will not engage with you.”

    Phew! What a relief already.

    “You will not threaten me, abuse me,”

    Never done it never will.

    “attempt to degrade my self esteem.”

    Now that depends totally on your attempt to degrade my self esteem.

    “You will apply the same standards to me that you apply to everyone (meaning you will not call ME potty mouth for saying the same things others say).”

    I think I can live with that.

    “You WILL pretend to be a gentleman,”

    I AM a gentleman. Ask any of my real life SBs.

    “I will ignore your existence.”

    If that means that you WILL NOT directly or indirectly refer to me then I would be the happiest man on the blog.

    “When our verbal swords cross you will not attack my appearance or my person, and you will not threaten to humiliate me if I don’t defer to your opinion. In return I will resist the urge to notice your existence.”

    I don’t give a shit if you defer to my opinion to me. You will not call me “basement dweller” or call me some kind of cheap SD to be avoided. If you do that then I will ignore you in kind.

    “I have collected a full brief containing months of screenshots of your ongoing threats and harassment against me, and others, and I will continue to build that document until this issue is resolved satisfactorily through SA defending the safety of its female members, or you censoring yourself.”

    I am so scared.

    “I am not an idiot, as you know. Nor am I bitter, paranoid, or delusional. I am a woman who has been harassed, bullied, intimidated, abused, and threatened by YOU one time too many. Perhaps today your violent language was simply caused by an errant coma (in which case I will accept the apology you forgot to give), but the evidence I have compiled of your unaccaptable behavior toward this community is troubling.”

    Whatever that means.

    “IT STOPS NOW!”

    Whatever that means.

  753. FatB'StardSA says:

    If you say my name three times while reading the SA blog I will appear to dispense justice (kind of like Candyman but I am a white guy with a full head of hair).

    First off I would hate to be considered as some kind of SD “master” on the blog. To me being a SD “master” is like winning a gold medal at the special olympics. You are still a retard*.

    Second, I vote that Josh stay on the blog. Someone has to insult PriceySpicey and I just do not have the time anymore.

    *Before anyone gets upset, I think retards are cooler than most SD’s.

    P.S.
    My comments do not apply to “SD Guru” who really is a cool guy!

  754. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey – now you see what blog drama looks like from the outside in; that’s what your spat with KMS looked like. 😉

    The drama is only ever interesting when you’re part of it. :)

  755. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy

    I guess you are overreaching already.

    Stick with YOU and ME, and allow me the courtesy to deal with the others individually, based on their responses, and don’t try to dictate what I should or should not do.

    I don’t think that FB or I have any issues, per se. If there were any issues, him and I will resolve amicably without your intervention.

    As far as Sugary and flyR, I am pretty much out of flyR’s way because he as been cordial, except for the last post. It’s up to SugarySpicey if she considers this moment as a time for truce or…

  756. Lainey says:

    OMG talk about DRAMATIC! #ICant

  757. SugarySpicey says:

    Josh – I will not engage with you. You will not threaten me, abuse me, or attempt to degrade my self esteem. You will apply the same standards to me that you apply to everyone (meaning you will not call ME potty mouth for saying the same things others say). You WILL pretend to be a gentleman, and I will ignore your existence.

    When our verbal swords cross you will not attack my appearance or my person, and you will not threaten to humiliate me if I don’t defer to your opinion. In return I will resist the urge to notice your existence.

    I have collected a full brief containing months of screenshots of your ongoing threats and harassment against me, and others, and I will continue to build that document until this issue is resolved satisfactorily through SA defending the safety of its female members, or you censoring yourself.

    I am not an idiot, as you know. Nor am I bitter, paranoid, or delusional. I am a woman who has been harassed, bullied, intimidated, abused, and threatened by YOU one time too many. Perhaps today your violent language was simply caused by an errant coma (in which case I will accept the apology you forgot to give), but the evidence I have compiled of your unaccaptable behavior toward this community is troubling.

    IT STOPS NOW!

  758. DorkyGuy says:

    Well all right then.

    However, if you throw insults at Spicy, FlyR, FB, or any of the other regulars that I have known for ages, our uneasy truce will have to end, because I can’t sit idly by. Ditto for calling people proxies, creating proxies, or elevating yourself as the guru of the site above other more experienced people. If you are here to have fun, learn, and be cordial, we’ll get along fine.

    If you want fun, peaceful banter here (which is also what I want), then it is imperative that you figure out some way to make peace with Spicey and Flyr. They are both permanent fixtures here and friends. There is no chance of either of them leaving, so if things are going to improve, you’ll have to figure out a way to improve those relationships.

    Fair enough?

  759. Josh says:

    C’mon @flyR,

    I should have refreshed the screen before posting my request to SS.

    Chill out, will ya! 😉

  760. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey,

    As I have told you before many times, you are a decent writer, and you can provide useful advice to new SBs. So I urge you to stay with the positive side and work together to expand the sugar space AND make Brandon Wade a very rich man. 😉

    DorkyGuy has been a good sport and I am willing to work with him. I urge you to join forces to save SBs from scamster SD and vice versa.

    What say?

  761. Lainey says:

    Mmmm Swingers. Back in his SUPER HOT days. Id STILL shag him though. NO SUGAR ADDED! Him and Jason Segel. Oooo AND Paul Rudd (but he’s short)

  762. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy

    “@Josh~ If you want to try the civil thing, I’ll give it a chance, for as long as it lasts.”

    My friend, I had nothing against you. But it was you who came swinging against me in your very first post after your hiatus and I replied in kind.

    So if you want to try the “civil thing”, then I am all for it. 😉

  763. DorkyGuy says:

    @Josh~ If you want to try the civil thing, I’ll give it a chance, for as long as it lasts.

    You wouldn’t believe the TV I own. It’s a 15 year old CRT. Why? Because I very rarely sit down to watch TV.

    You might be right. I might enjoy buying a home theater system. However, a big part of the draw for movies is getting out. (I work from home, remotely). When I am away from a computer, I can let my mind rest and not think about work, which makes movies much more enjoyable.

    There ya go… an insight into why DorkyGuy is always online, lol.

    @Lainey~ I know :/ Every once in a while a movie outside my taste surprises me. (Life Is Beautiful, for one). Usually I regret taking the chance though, lol

    I am totally into Romantic Comedies. 50 First Dates, for one. Love Vince Vaughn! Swingers baby.

  764. Lainey says:

    Has anyone been to iPic?

  765. Josh says:

    I love Vince Vaughn and Owen Wilson duo. They work so well together.

  766. Lainey says:

    Looks like an “HE owes me one” type of movie. Effin hate those movies. I do like romance comedies though. Anything Vince Vaughn and I’m AAALLLL OVER IT!

  767. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy

    “Noooooo… “Walk Among the Tombstones” is out of theaters :/ Hate it when I do that.”

    Invest in a good large screen TV and a decent sound system. Then you would love it when a movies is out of theaters. It’s Red Box or Netflix time then baby. 😉

  768. DorkyGuy says:

    Ok, I need an opinion from you girls.

    “The Best of Me”. Is it one of those romances that a guy comes out feeling like “That was a good movie” or is it one that he comes out feeling “she owes me one”.

  769. Josh says:

    *So learn to restrain yourself for your own health’s sake.