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L.A. Rouge Party Recap

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Los Angeles. The city of Angels and also the city of Sugar Daddies. First and foremost, thank you to everyone who attended the L.A. Rouge Masquerade. The party was our best one yet—if I do say so myself. It was so expertly executed that dozens of successful men, new to the lifestyle, came out to play and see where all the beautiful ladies were streaming to. And you know what that means ladies—fresh POTs!

Missed out on last month’s festivities? Don’t fret—we’ve got the lowdown on all the juicy bits. Read on and you’ll know what to expect at the next soiree.

In The Beginning

Guests arrived before 9 p.m. in hopes of scoping out the field and laying out their game plan for the evening. Lovely Sugar Babies—actresses, business professionals, models, and artists—flooded into Boulevard3 in shades of blush and crimson like a whirlwind of red petals. Dapper Daddies arrived in pairs, some accompanied by Sugar Babies, ready to join in the fun.

Brandon Wade joined the SA team (including your humble blog servants!) in personally greeting partygoers. Everyone was a star that evening as they strutted and posed on the red carpet for professional photographers. The fire-lit courtyard provided plenty of private cabanas for those looking for a more intimate environment to discuss potential arrangements.

Once Inside

As guests entered through The Library, sweet and sugary scents filled the air as luscious chocolate flowed from a four-tier fountain set amid a decadent buffet of fresh fruit and fluffy cakes. Ready for the most anticipated offering of the evening, guests entered the rose-colored ballroom. Seductive shadow dancers gyrated behind a seductive scrim to tasteful music, while beautiful women and successful men danced the night away and sipped on specialty cocktails.

Hired models served guests hors d’oeuvres from a hand-selected (and taste-tested!) menu. Man and woman does not live by sugar alone! Everyone needs actual nutrition to keep dancing until the sun comes up—or at least until the end of the party.

VIPs enjoyed the festivities from the surrounding balcony away from prying eyes but were free to join in on the action whenever they pleased.

At 11 p.m.

A cleverly crafted video montage provided the lead-up to Founder Brandon Wade’s speech. He thanked all the attendees and gave a shout-out to all the beautiful people who make SeekingArrangement.com such a success,and keep the Sugar Bowl sweet.


As the party came to a close, it was evident that almost everyone left with what he or she was looking for. Waving goodbye and bidding everyone farewell, we were all reminded of how thankful we are to be a part of this special and ever-growing community.

 What were your favorite moments at L.A. Rouge?

Where would you like the next party to be, and why?

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  2. Diannah says:

    Any party in Atlanta soon?

  3. Bunsie says:

    @.f I can’t believe those are the girls at the LA party. I assumed they would all look like the two hot ones in the first picture. Now, those girls are definitely what I consider to be the standard for an SB. How did the other girls even stand a chance next to them?

  4. matureexstudent says:

    how about arranging a similar event in the UK?

  5. Josh says:

    Hello folks. All the regulars post on the newest blog topics. Head over there and post your questions and comments.

  6. Nikki says:

    @yougottabekiddingme: What is wrong with my answering the questions?

  7. @SexyRock and Nikki from previous blog post

    “SexyRockstar says:
    October 15, 2014 at 3:17 pm
    @Nikki

    How old are you…do you have kids….do you do drugs? Location? How much are you asking?”

    Nikki says:

    “@SexyRockstar: I am 24, no kids, I’m DDF. I just moved back to Arizona two months ago and looking for 24 a month.”

    Can we talk about this?

    Are people actually honest about drug use? Further, how much merit does stating that one is DDF hold? I’m really just curious, and interested to know what people’s thoughts are. Is omission of “DDF” perceived an unexpressed admission of a meth addiction and frothy vagina? It has never once occurred to me to put DDF in my profile as a qualifier. Is benefit of the doubt given that those who are not DDF do not go out out of their way to say that they are? Is diseased druggie the default assignment unless proclaimed otherwise?

  8. Nikki says:

    @Tanner: I have a few different pictures some full body others of just face, but they are pretty, or at least I think so! I did put some things in my profile that I feel set me apart but not too much about me. Is it okay if I send you the link?

    @SexyRockstar: I am 24, no kids, I’m DDF. I just moved back to Arizona two months ago and looking for 24 a month.

  9. SexyRockstar says:

    @Nikki

    How old are you…do you have kids….do you do drugs? Location? How much are you asking?

  10. SexyRockstar says:

    Petite…I looovvveee the show “The Killing” I am just now on season three.

    and I finally started to watch How I met Your Mother. I have no idea why I never watched that show to begin with…it’s amazing.

  11. Tanner says:

    @Nikki is your profile complete with a pic and pretty good detail about yourself? A lot of times guys will most likely go for those individuals that have pics and set them self apart from others on the site. Although it’s hard to do that with so many SB’s, it’s quite possible. Don’t be too pushy just be polite, patient, and you’ll have your first SD experience in no time.

  12. Tanner says:

    Was this party only for ladies? I wish there were more guys that utilized this website in Atlanta. Brandon Wade, you are a complete genius for introducing this site. I love it.

  13. Nikki says:

    I have yet to have my first sugar daddy experience and I would love to learn more and see what I am doing wrong or not saying to where it hasn’t happened yet. It would be super helpful! That and to meet other SBs in my area that can help? I didn’t make it to the Rouge party because I didn’t want to go without a friend.

  14. DorkyGuy says:

    virgin blog topic is up

  15. DorkyGuy says:

    I step away for just a second, and girls top comparing notes on boobie bouncing/pinching/jiggling, and the catfight stops.

    Well, at least ys_pls_sir is in a nightie! *grabs the cushion, throws it at Lanie, points to KMS as if she did it, throws another cushion at Petite to make her boobs jiggle, and puts his arm around ys_pls_sir*

  16. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    I laughed because I have used the phrase “around the time you were born” with a couple of my SBs AND needless to say it did not go very well. 😉

  17. Kms2014 says:

    @Josh…well, it’s true 😉 it started in ’95…In all fairness, had not heard about it until a couple years ago 😉

  18. Petite says:

    @kms
    thanks for the suggestion, I’ll have to check it out :)

  19. Josh says:

    “@petite, it is an older show, and started around the time you were born”

    Hahahaha!

  20. Kms2014 says:

    @petite, it is an older show, and started around the time you were born, but a friend told me to check it out a couple years ago. It’s called ‘Father Ted’…and the episode with the mouse and old Nazi secret room was priceless. It was only on a few years because the main character died of a heart attack in real life. Is about a few Catholic priests being banished to a remote part of Ireland, due to one being an alcoholic and the other was embezzling money from the church. Is silly show but funny.

  21. Petite says:

    @Lainey, it’s entirely possible I’m wrong, but I’m sure at the very least the first season of Hannibal is on prime.

    I don’t have cable either, so I use hulu a lot 😛

  22. Petite says:

    Since it’s my job, I watch a lot of tv.
    Love the Netflix original series (though I can’t really say I’m fully satisfied by what they did with Arrested Development)
    But I’m mostly a comedy girl– love british shows (fresh meat, peep show, IT crowd, etc), NBC comedy (parks and rec, community, 30 rock etc), and the like.

    Oooh have you seen How To Get Away With Murder? I think you’d like it Lainey

  23. Lainey says:

    @Petite what the heck? I have Prime and didn’t know that. I’m going to have to check it out. Thanks

  24. Lainey says:

    @KMS Kevin Spacey is so calculating and devoid of emotion. Every person has its place and ever action has its time. I LOVE IT!

  25. Josh says:

    Yes sweetheart!

  26. Petite says:

    @Lainey
    I work for Universal Studios, so I’m a huge fan of both Hannibal and Bates Motel
    (If any of you guys have amazon prime– believe they’re both free on there)

  27. Kms2014 says:

    I would not watch the very last episode….had heard what happened and decided I couldn’t deal with the ending, so didn’t want to see it. My favourite seasons were the one with John Lithgow(if that is how you spell his name), and Julia Styles….after those seasons, yes, they got new writers, I think?…and the show was never as good.

    @LB, or anyone who watches house of cards. It was originally a British tv show, and is on Us netflix. I could never get into it either….have not watched the original British version.

  28. Lainey says:

    @YSP2 you might actually be safer next to @DorkyGuy IJS.. 😉

  29. Lainey says:

    @KMS I loved Dexter until he let his emotions cloud his judgement. Then I started getting frustrated with the show

  30. Lainey says:

    @LegalBarbie28 GIIRRLLL let me know when you start watching Damages. I tried to only watch one or two and walk away but I ended up binge watching it over 2 weeks. Lmao. LOVE Patty Hewes. Now THAT’S a cutthroat bitch

  31. Kms2014 says:

    I like some British shows and other tv shows that US netflix does not have. In some circumstances, the netflix in other countries can have newer episodes(like what I did with Dexter before US netflix had all the episodes). I just changed my DNS and was able to watch netflix in any other country that netflix is available. Comes in handy, if you like a certain show that US netflix doesn’t have, but Canada, UK, or Mexico might.

  32. LegalBarbie28 says:

    @Lainey

    Yes, crazy eyes looks so much better as her actual self LOL you’re right, I have no idea what they would do without her character
    though!

  33. LegalBarbie28 says:

    So lex= selects

  34. Lainey says:

    @LegalBarbie28 isn’t “Crazy Eyes” (Uzo Aduba) beautiful when dressed up at the awards? Love her character

  35. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    Changing into nightie and sliding big cushion between me and @DorkyGuy while patting floor beside me for @Lainey to sit.

  36. LegalBarbie28 says:

    Well I think to answer your question… Yes you can watch that Netflix shows only such as Orange is the new black. However, you can also watch other TV shows like once upon a time, Braxton family values, scandal, house of cards in addition to a bunch of other movies. however, Netflix so Lex the actual movies/TV shows that it chooses to debut on Netflix and they updated every so often and put new movies on there. So no not everything will be on Netflix, but there’s a wide range of TV shows, movies, documentaries, as standup comedy’s etc. it cost about eight bucks a month I believe

  37. Lainey says:

    Has anyone watched “True Detective”?

  38. Lainey says:

    I have Netflix but it’s on my smartTV. Hemlock Grove, Orange Is The New Black and Houses Of Cards are all Netflix series. Can you stream current seasons of NON-Netflix shows? If so please let me know!!!. Better than paying upwards of 40$

  39. LegalBarbie28 says:

    I love love love orange is the new black. I tried to watch house of cards but I couldn’t really get into the first episode so I never watch again. I’ll have to try it again next time and actually pay attention LOL

  40. Lainey says:

    Oh no I forgot “Hemlock Grove” out possesses just the right amount of dark mysterious thrill and realistic gore. I can’t do gore if it’s too fake. I’ll end up critiquing the entire show.

    My filler shows are “Orange Is The New Black” and “HouseOfCards”

  41. LegalBarbie28 says:

    @Josh
    Nope…. Only a “Juris” and that won’t do anything for someone who’s physically hurt LOL

  42. LegalBarbie28 says:

    Man, I don’t watch any of those. Lol. Why don’t you just stream Netflix then you won’t have to purchase them all individually? Netflix is only about eight bucks a month I love it!

  43. Lainey says:

    @LegalBarbie28 Ooooo nooo guess I won’t be buying it on Vudu. Btw I don’t watch TV so I don’t have cable. If someone tells me about a series and I think I may like it.I simply purchase it. That being said I’ve been told I need to watch “True Detective”.. The other few shows I keep up with are “Hannibal”, “Bates Motel” and “The Following” needless to say I’m clearly intrigued by serial killers and death.

  44. LegalBarbie28 says:

    And you’re not missing anything with this most recent season of scandal. I haven’t seen the last two episodes and the next episode actually comes on tomorrow. For someone who used to break her neck trying to watch it every Thursday, that should tell you that this season really does suck LOL

  45. Josh says:

    Do we have a doctor in the house?

  46. LegalBarbie28 says:

    Yes I agree with you… And damages is what I’ve been hearing about and I’ve never watched it so I think I’m going to watch that today on Netflix too!

  47. Lainey says:

    @LegalBarbie28 I haven’t watched the new season yet. I love the cases but HATE her interactions with Fitz and how she had essentially allowed her emotions to corrupt her business. I disappoints me that they ALWAYS take a strong female character and make LOVE or MEN her weakness. This is why I’m more of a Patty Hewes (Glenn Close) Damages fan.

  48. LegalBarbie28 says:

    @Lainey
    Lainey says:
    October 15, 2014 at 10:40 am
    Lol @LegalBarbie28 I totally just imagined Olivia Pope and that huge wine glass of hers. Oh and the popcorn. CAN’T forget the popcorn lol

    Seriously… My entire family and all my friends have nicknamed me Olivia which I think is hilarious. One I am a huge scandal fan! Although this season sucks and I can imagine it’s because Shonda Rimes has her new show how to get away with murder which is the shit may I add! Lol additionally since we both have the legal backgrounds, are completely cut throat, and wine seems to be a part of our daily food groups, I guess the nickname IS warranted 😉

  49. Lainey says:

    @DorkyGuy pass her the damn popcorn! I’m rooting for the nightie!

  50. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @DorkyGuy: “@ys_pls~ It looks like we have two shows… on one side, two girls are in a catfight. On the other side, girls are talking about pinching and squeezing boobs. This is a rare moment of perfect blog balance. It just needs nighties and pillows.”

    I’ll keep up with the one involving boobs…let me know about the cat fight. And if you stop hogging the popcorn, I’ll change into a nightie.

  51. LegalBarbie28 says:

    @DG
    “_pls~ It looks like we have two shows… on one side, two girls are in a catfight. On the other side, girls are talking about pinching and squeezing boobs. This is a rare moment of perfect blog balance. It just needs nighties and pillows.”

    OMG!!! I totally missed this comment. That is exactly what is going on the block right now! That is absolutely hilarious now that I read it out loud LMAO

  52. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    “I can be very nice and generally do not like conflict, or can be very naughty at times…”

    Although the question is not addressed to me, I vote for naughty with emergency breaks. 😉

  53. Lainey says:

    Lol @LegalBarbie28 I totally just imagined Olivia Pope and that huge wine glass of hers. Oh and the popcorn. CAN’T forget the popcorn lol

  54. Josh says:

    “From diapers to depends”

    Isn’t that special!!! 😉

  55. Kms2014 says:

    I am a complicated duel person, Lainey…I can be very nice and generally do not like conflict, or can be very naughty at times…Am thinking of dabbling in being a domme, so can respect very assertive women…Have a very direct personality as well. I don’t want to have an identity crisis on blog, though…which should I choose? Hehehe

  56. LegalBarbie28 says:

    Kms2014 says:
    October 15, 2014 at 10:34 am
    Deuce bigalow, male gigolo

    Now that was my brothers movie! He watched it like at least once a week for like two years straight. I’m like enough already! LOL

  57. LegalBarbie28 says:

    Lol @LegalBarbie28 @DorkyGuy Yea I people watch when I go to bars. It’s really fun actually

    @Lainey
    Yes it is actually! Funny thing is, I’m a wine diva so I typically go to wine bars especially because my career calls for it. Not too much craziness going on there. But every now and then when I hang out with some of the colleagues in our downtime I will go to regular bars and have a beer and it’s amazing how many people you see get trashed there and act a complete fool. I’m the one who stays at home and gets drunk while watching a movie like a weirdo. Haven’t really mastered the “i’m completely comfortable getting wasted in public all the time.” Lol

  58. Lainey says:

    @KMS fair enough but don’t pull my tail and then Gasp in disgust and jump back when I bite. Either you’re a messy instigator or a peacemaker. PICK ONE!

  59. Kms2014 says:

    Deuce bigalow, male gigolo

  60. Kms2014 says:

    @LB, yes, and besides hot chick…what was the other one…oh, deuce big allow, male gigolo? Oh, that one was sooo stupid, but hilarious!

  61. DorkyGuy says:

    @KMS~ I *adore* Rachel McAdams. She’s the epitome of the girl next door. Rob Schneider, not so much. Might be the lighting though.

    @Petite~ lol! Probably right!

  62. Lainey says:

    Lol @LegalBarbie28 @DorkyGuy Yea I people watch when I go to bars. It’s really fun actually

  63. DorkyGuy says:

    @ys_pls~ It looks like we have two shows… on one side, two girls are in a catfight. On the other side, girls are talking about pinching and squeezing boobs. This is a rare moment of perfect blog balance. It just needs nighties and pillows.

  64. LegalBarbie28 says:

    @kms Omg!!!! I love the hot chick… I got that one too. Rob Snyder is a nut so it probably is funnier now that you mention it!

  65. Petite says:

    @DorkyGuy
    You have a removable penis. Your sexuality is about as secure as anything in a tupperware container.

  66. Kms2014 says:

    Well, angry Lainey, I will address whom I please…Capisce 😉

  67. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @DorkyGuy: “Is there anyone not involved in this that I can share my popcorn with?”

    Pulling up a chair, handing you a drink. Pass the popcorn…what did I miss? Who’s winning??

  68. LegalBarbie28 says:

    @Kms
    Good idea… I’m going to give those lunges a try.

    @petite
    Yeah your breasts are probably very sensitive as are mine. I don’t even like little pinches and crap like that LOL I do like other things though LOL but those weird squeezes don’t do it!

  69. Kms2014 says:

    @DG, did you ever see the Rob Sniederman movie with Rachel Mcadams? Was it ‘The Hot Chick’? That one was funnier, I think, hehe. I love Rachel. Mcadams…she is hot babe.

  70. LegalBarbie28 says:

    Haha yea the one petite directed towards you…..” If you have sex, you will get chlamydia… And die!”

    Haha I got super excited, that used to be one of my favorite movies. Matter of fact, I think I’ll go pop that in tonight just for the hell of it!
    Thanks petite LOL

  71. DorkyGuy says:

    Is there anyone not involved in this that I can share my popcorn with?

  72. Petite says:

    @LegalBarbie
    Hahahaha!!
    I wear a sports bra almost all the time. I think my boobs are just way too sensitive. Even little squeezes are uncomfortable :(.

  73. Lainey says:

    @KMS my insults are NEVER general they are meant for exactly who I am speaking to. I am not allowed to insult after being insulted by the same person on SEVERAL occasions?

    You are bias in this situation as shown by you jumping to the defense of the original aggressor despite being given back story, supported by facts AND quotes.

    What you CLEARLY fail to realize that I DON’T CARE how you perceive things or what is “lost” to you. I don’t know you and probably NEVER will. You opinion of me is moot.

    So it’d behoove you to keep it to yourself if you wish not too have any further altercations with me.

  74. Kms2014 says:

    Jumping jacks are really great, if they don’t bother your breasts….anything that puts your arms over your head really gets the heart rate up. If anyone likes doing modified lunges for hard bums, then try overhead presses(10-15 lb weights are good),while you are in the lunge position and up. It is much harder.

  75. DorkyGuy says:

    lol, I missed a movie quote from Mean Girls? Maybe my sexual orientation is more secure than I though.

  76. LegalBarbie28 says:

    @Petite
    I know… I’m such a mean big sister LOL

    And the key to doing jumping jacks… Sports bra!!!! Even one that is a tad bit too small! Do usually that works better to hold em down lol

  77. LegalBarbie28 says:

    @Petite

    Omg!!!!!! Mean girls!!! I love it!!!! I told my younger brother that same statement when he was about 12 and he started crying LMAO

  78. Kms2014 says:

    Hmm, get along with most men, too…except for a little evil prophet, whom someone funnily mentioned reminded them of the evil villain in Moonraker, hehe!

  79. DorkyGuy says:

    @Petite~ I KNEW IT! That is why I keep little dorky in a Tupperware container in the fridge. Seals in the freshness.

  80. Lainey says:

    “SugarySpicey says:

    October 15, 2014 at 9:48 am

    Lainey it was more a generalization”

    It could be taken as such by the obtuse but Nooooooo it wasn’t LMAO. All I ask is for people on this blog to “own their shit”

  81. Petite says:

    @LegalBarbie
    Hahaha HOW DO YOU DO JUMPING JACKS?! They hurt my super tiny boobies. Maybe I’m doing them wrong…

    @DorkyGuy
    If you have sex, you WILL get chlamydia and you WILL die.

    @Lainey
    Virtual high-fives are the best!

  82. DorkyGuy says:

    @Lainey~ You don’t drink? You and I should totally go out some night to a bar, and just watch all the drunks. I suspect that everyone else drinks purely for my amusement.

  83. Kms2014 says:

    There is one thing for sure…have never been accused of passive aggression. Am very direct…there is a difference with dry humour and passive aggression. And, if I tease someone on here it is usually very direct as well. Perhaps, you meant someone else. I had no problem with you and thought you were cool, when you first joined blog, but then you started making rude comments about others’ ages…why go there, since there are many different demographics, on SA.

    Just chill….it is just a blog…and logic gets lost in your posts, when you get nasty. People tend to focus on the nasty parts more. I have no desire to slaughter your character, and get along with most all women…

  84. LegalBarbie28 says:

    @Lainey

    You don’t drink??? Darn it!!! I guess you’ll have to drive bc looks like I’ll be the drunkie! Lol

  85. Lainey says:

    @Petite *High Five* Xo

  86. Lainey says:

    OMG @DorkyGuy said “diddling”! I use that! I like you more and more each blog post. Lmao

  87. Lainey says:

    @LegalBarbie28 I’m TOTALLY giving you judgey-eyes. Lmao. Yes we definitely do. I don’t dink so I hope they serve nadacoladas lol

  88. DorkyGuy says:

    Only 4 sexual partners reeks of non-promiscuity.

    *ducks*

    Alright, here’s how I view it… (which you should probably disregard, because I have never once studied the CDC statistics).

    I am hyper vigilant about health (maybe irrationally paranoid). Passing a panel that *I* will pay for is a non-negotiable prerequisite for sex. Not a very sexy way to start things off, and doesn’t lend itself to spontaneity, but it is what it is.

    I wish her level of promiscuity didn’t matter, but it kind of does to me. It should matter to her how promiscuous I am too.

    That first test gives us a confidence that we are both clean. Great starting point. But if we are each out diddling lots of other people then it doesn’t take long for that first test to become meaningless.

    Visual inspection of junk doesn’t do much to alleviate my anxiety, as so many diseases can be asymptomatic *and* contagious. At least that’s what I remember from my stern Sex Ed teacher in 6th grade. Memory is hazy though, and maybe I’m wrong.

    No matter what, regular testing is part of any potential arrangement, but if I know she’s not inherently promiscuous, that helps alleviate my anxiety on health issues. It has nothing to do with my opinion of her as a person, or being judgmental. It’s all about whether I feel safe putting my junk in her junk.

    As for oral sex and the like, if she’s got a clean panel, everything’s on the table. If she enjoys it, I’ll enjoy giving it to her, with only a few notable exceptions.

  89. LegalBarbie28 says:

    Up oh! I left for a few minutes to do my daily jumping jacks and ya’ll done got Ms. Lainey fired up! (Yes I’m The girl that still does daily jumping jacks for cardio – don’t judge me!) lol

    Lainey we need a cocktail! 😉

  90. Petite says:

    @Lainey-
    It wouldn’t really bother me all too much if you thought I was– it’s so subjective. I’m extremely promiscuous to the uber religious.
    I was only bothered by the implication that I somehow approached birth control with a negative stigma.

    I’m very glad you understand where I’m coming from now. Yay communication!

  91. LegalBarbie28 says:

    “But since we’re on the topic of “promiscuity”… WHO CARES as long as everyone involved is taking the necessary precautions?”

    That’s right petite! We’re all members of a SD/SB arrangement site for crying out loud! Lol I don’t think anyone here is a saint! Just protect ourselves in and out of this sugar world and all is good :-)

  92. Lainey says:

    @Petite ok great. I’m game to admit that I read it as a whole and accept that I therefore may have misinterpreted your explanation. But just so you know I was not claiming you were promiscuous which is why I continued to state your claim that you were not.

  93. Lainey says:

    Deductive reasoning is a BASIC form of LOGIC. So Yea I wouldn’t expect either of you to understand.

  94. Petite says:

    Whoa now– my comment about how many sexual partners I’ve had was in regards to the worry about STDs NOT birth control.

    Personal opinion here: If you’re sexually active and have not discussed having children with your partner, I believe it’s irresponsible to not have some form of birth control. And YES that includes condoms. Do I think that having an extra barrier like the pill, shot, iud, spermicide, etc is better? Yes. Do I believe that makes you somehow a bad person? No.

    It’s the same reason I believe abstinence shouldn’t be taught in place of sex education. Just because you have the support to have sex, doesn’t mean you will. By the same token, just because you are protected from having unplanned pregnancies doesn’t mean you’ll have sex every night.

    But since we’re on the topic of “promiscuity”… WHO CARES as long as everyone involved is taking the necessary precautions?

  95. Lainey says:

    It AMAZES me that you women CONTINUE to address me and attempt to slaughter my character and EXPECT me not to respond. Or demand that when I do I do it RESPECTFULLY.

    I’m not angry. I’m GENUINELY AMUSED

  96. Lainey says:

    “You accuse others of attacking you, while I just see some teasing banter that we all take part of here, but nothing below the belt usually, until your nasty comes out”

    I believe @YGTBKM said it best “LOLs and winky faces following insults do not lighten the blow”

    You calling it “joking”, I call it passive-aggression. ESPECIALLY when I’ve dismissed it previously and the person continues. So if they want a “nasty response” why not give the fans what they want? (That’s rhetorical)

  97. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey it was more a generalization toward women and men, in general, who claim to be getting tested regularly. But when you ask even the smallest follow up question their claim falls apart. That’s all. Legal’s claim didn’t fall apart. She seems to take her sexual health very seriously. Good for her, I can’t fault her for that.

  98. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey I know who you said it to I’m wondering if you’re willing to about who you said it about. Lol

  99. Kms2014 says:

    @Lainey, I do not see much wit in your comments. Just mostly confrontational type ‘attitude’. Is it witty to call others granny mafia, old hag and to drink from your big tits? You accuse others of attacking you, while I just see some teasing banter that we all take part of here, but nothing below the belt usually, until your nasty comes out(which, it does often). Then, others might get nasty back…I would really like to know the type of Sd who would enjoy your ‘in your face’ direct and rude demeanor. Maybe, you are a domme in training, then that would make more sense, but really don’t think your attitude to most of
    women on blog here is making many like you.

    I agree with SS that your comment to petite eluded to slut shaming or her being promiscuous. For someone who constantly talks about women being ’emotional’ and ‘typical women’, you certainly don’t mind insulting other women and becoming rude and emotional with your ‘word vomit’ outbursts when someone dare disagree with you or confront you. I have no problem with either but your anger/drama is a little ‘out there’.

  100. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey

    “Elaine says:

    October 12, 2014 at 1:10 am

    @Lainey

    If I adressed to you, it is because you introduced yourself to this blog few days ago with a quite aggressive and braggy attitude.

    That I found irritating.
    So I confronted you with it.

    Basta.”

    Josh ask me questions a few posts back and I answered them. She thought I was using the blog to advertise myself jumped down my throat on THREE different occasions even after I explained I was simply answering a series of questions. No one said a word to or about her. UNPROVOKED! You say tomato I say bitter and jealous

    I’ve already explained this before on this posy but because YOU’RE AN OLDER WOMAN you share the same ill-logic she does so you band together.

    “From diapers to depends”

  101. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey that was toward legal, but now you’re in such a lather you’re finding a fight where there isn’t one.

  102. SugarySpicey says:

    Any person who does not know how to communicate with 51% of the population should probably look to themselves, as a human it’s pretty critical to be able to communicate VERY well with the population in general. To claim that 3.8 billion people are incapable of logic shows far more about you than the sisters you object to.

  103. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey said:

    “I doubt that as many women as claim excessive testing are really shelling out $600 for testing.”

    “Regarding testing, you are one of the rare informed few (most aren’t) and $600 referred to the claim of going to resting multiple times with the same partner.”

    and passive aggression rears its ugly little head again.

    Can any good pupil tell me who this statement is directed towards?

    Free OraQuick and PlanB for anyone who guesses correctly.

  104. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey, darling, you’re getting rather heated. Why would Elaine “come at you” unprovoked, out of the blue, for no reason whatsoever? Why would I then read your persona as somewhat judgmental, and then why would you immediately jump to associating with mob mentality? Because of miscommunication, which takes two, and seems to be escalating for you lately.

    If you did not intend to insult me when you made your “too old to SB” remarks – okay. If you did not intend to insult petite with your “reeks” remarks, okay. I misread you. But given the written word is all we have to go on, being frequently misread is something to evaluate.

  105. LegalBarbie28 says:

    Lainey says:
    October 15, 2014 at 9:30 am
    “She’s probably laying there waiting for the bullshit that most of the men call sex to be over lol”

    LMAO @LegalBarbie28 this SERIOUSLY needed to be said

    Girl yes… I’ve been there before myself! I’m laying there thinking… First Thought: This idiot isn’t even worth my good moves, it won’t even make a difference. Second thought: I wonder where I’m going to go for dinner tonight… LMAO

  106. Lainey says:

    “She’s probably laying there waiting for the bullshit that most of the men call sex to be over lol”

    LMAO @LegalBarbie28 this SERIOUSLY needed to be said

  107. LegalBarbie28 says:

    Haha “sisters in arms”. Girl you’re silly 😉

  108. Lainey says:

    “so you may want to look at that, or not.”

    Again I say: what is it with older women on this blog attempting to give younger women character advice.

    If you must know I communicate VERY clearly. Women simply don’t comprehend logically and misinterpret things that are VERY cut and dry.

    I get along fabulously with MEN. I was raised by my father. I will ALWAYS use FACT and LOGIC in a debate. If I do name call its only amusing to be petty and keep a woman ranting so I can use her own wits against her and dissect her “woman’s logic”

    But women still don’t see or understand the flaws in their argument even when presented with facts and logic.

    They then revert to character assassinations or other UNRELATED fallacies or call upon their “sisters-in-arms” LMAO

    Smh. Women.

  109. LegalBarbie28 says:

    Lol

  110. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey my other incidents were NOT a matter of miscommunication. @Elaine came for me just as she did yesterday by calling me a “terrona” unprovoked.

    There was nothing to be misunderstood after she ADMITTED that she was coming for me.

    ALSO the insults I dished out were not up for interpretation. They were what they were and I meant them.

    So when you speak about miscommunication stick to conquering a debate on your own merits. Bringing up sometime else’s scuffle with me only shows that you need more fire to fuel your claim.

    It saddens me that women can’t stand on their own wit, instead feel the need to mob together. It’s a sign of weakness. Thank you for exposing yourself

  111. LegalBarbie28 says:

    SugarySpicey says:
    October 15, 2014 at 9:08 am
    It takes two to miscommunicate and you seem to be having a lot of miscommunication lately, so you may want to look at that, or not.

    It’s still useful to have a conversation that allows us all to point out that society’s propensity to slut-bully is pretty daging.”

    I’m not for sure who this comment is intended for but I NEVER slut bullied anyone.

  112. SugarySpicey says:

    I never said I don’t use condoms. I like condoms because it makes men last longer. I do see more of the ubiquitous slut shaming there “spread your legs” which always accompanies conversations of women’s sexual health.

    Regarding testing, you are one of the rare informed few (most aren’t) and $600 referred to the claim of going to resting multiple times with the same partner.

    As for OC we’ll agree to disagree, as the stats are resoundingly supporting the success of the program for society at large. But politics being what they are 49% of people on this board won’t agree with that statement.

  113. LegalBarbie28 says:

    “Give a woman great sex and she’ll do ANYTHING for you.”

    Yep I agree. I hear a lot of comments about STDs talking about how bad there as bees are in bed. In reality, she’s probably really not that bad. They’re probably frustrated that she’s giving no type of response (noise or physical movements) because she’s bored out of their mind. Most men think they’re seriously doing something and the girl is no fun. In reality, don’t get mad at your SB because you don’t know how to hit that spot!!! she’s probably laying there waiting for the bullshit that most of the men call sex to be over lol

  114. SugarySpicey says:

    It takes two to miscommunicate and you seem to be having a lot of miscommunication lately, so you may want to look at that, or not.

    It’s still useful to have a conversation that allows us all to point out that society’s propensity to slut-bully is pretty daging.

  115. LegalBarbie28 says:

    @SS

    “People make all these claims about how careful they are which I find to be complete nonsense for a huge variety of reasons”

    Sweetie with all due respect, if you personally don’t take these precautions then that’s fine. I’m not here to judge. But if I say that “I” take these precautions than that is just what it is. I take these precautions! I don’t open my legs for every Tom, Dick, and Harry and when I do make the decision to do so… Trust and believe, he will strap it up, I will be on birth control, and I likely use a contraceptive film a.k.a. spermicide to add to that. Lol. That’s just me and although everybody may not take those precautions but if you’re not someone that I am consistently in a sexual relationship with and that I trust that we are monogamous with each other, there will be no BB. The fact that you may see this as complete nonsense infers that this is not a precaution that you yourself may take. Again, no judgments made but don’t think that others don’t take these precautions.

    “A routine annual gynecological exam does not test for STDs and giving blood without getting a call-back from the Red Cross doesn’t mean you’re in the clear. Most insurance companies don’t cover testing and the going rate for the 11 panel is $180. I doubt that as many women as claim excessive testing are really shelling out $600 for testing.”

    Your comment makes the assumption that individuals do not know the difference between their annual Pap exam versus STD testing. Some Pap exams do in fact test for STD testing if you requested while the typical ones do not so you are correct there. However, not all STD testing is 600+ dollars. With a little bit of effort and research,You should be able to find clinics within your City that hold specials regularly for STD tests for almost little to nothing. Especially for those who are of college age and are students at their local university. STD testing is typically free there and is offered on a regular basis. At least it always was on my campus for the four years that I was there, Purdue University.

    In addition to herpes, genital warts/HPV and HIV are all in curable. Again anytime you make the decision to have any form of unprotected sex you are at risk for these diseases and I’m sure this is not new information. Chlamydia gonorrhea and syphilis are all curable diseases by anabiotic. However, although you can at some point in time “smell” these infections, which I agree is pretty nasty LOL, with the silent symptoms that these diseases Carry, by the time you actually get to the point where you can smell them, so much damage has already been done. Chlamydia left untreated can actually cause infertility and the symptoms are not recognizable sometimes for over a year.

    I agree with most of your statistics, I too have heard that women under 25 are the most susceptible to STDs as well. But FYI, in most opinions including my own, Obamacare absolutely sucks. The audience in which it was created for can’t even afford the $200-$450 a month that it cost to even have the insurance that pays 20% while you pay 80%. So I don’t think it is the most important advancement in helping women remain STD free. In that case Women should just save that money and put it towards the $600 plus STD testing that you have in your area. It will be a lot cheaper.

  116. SugarySpicey says:

    RSD commented that he doesn’t even care if his SBs climax as he’s only their for his pleasure so if they can’t come from penetration too bad for them. He also gets turned on by SBs literally starving themselves to death so I have nothing further to say about that approach, he says it all himself.

  117. Lainey says:

    I DON’T CARE how you perceive the “MY THOUGHTS” portion. I was only clarifying that I was not calling @Petite promiscuous. Simply saying she knew how society would take her statement as well or she would not have felt the need to explain herself (unpressured, unquestioned, at HER OWN WILL)

    AMAZING that after that breakdown I just gave that I have to explain it AGAIN

  118. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey – Josh always complains that SBs don’t really want to have sex, but the reason they don’t is because he views SBs as diseased semi-prostitutes. Of course they don’t dive into bed with him immediately, he judges them, ignores their sexual pleasure, and then discards them like a used tube sock. Give a woman great sex and she’ll do ANYTHING for you.

  119. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey, the statements “aggressive forms of birth control” and “reeks of promiscuity” attach judgement – reeks, which means smells offensively, aggressive – which is generally considered bad, and promiscuity, which attached a negative judgement on another person’s sexual identity. The proper answer when someone asks of their number of sexual partners is “a lot” is not to then define actions which make that person feel self conscious and judged, but instead to remind the young, impressionable girl that her body belongs to her. Nobody but her can decide what is the correct amount of sex she should be having, and with how many partners, and how she and her health care provider determine she should protect herself from unintended consequences.

  120. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey Lol. Is it safe to assume that after the “oral clause” that you’re the one who reprimanded @Joshy? Lol

    Also, I agree with what you said but PLEASE let’s not get stated on OBAMACARE Lol

  121. Lainey says:

    What is with women’s inability to read things as they are written? Instead you look from some evocation of emotion and run with it.

    I will break it down even further since the hint that it was pure deductive reasoning was not evident to you.

    MY THOUGHTS: Aggressive contraception used by young childless women eludes to promiscuity.

    @Petite AFTER STATING HER FORM OF CONTRACEPTION, went on to defend her numbers (no one asked she offered)

    DEDUCTIVE REASONING TELLS US: that although SHE is NOT promiscuous she knows that society’s initial perception about her method (and other things following) would be that she is.

    So I CONCLUDE that our thoughts, no matter how we arrived at them, are the same.

    Let me know if layman is still incomprehensible and we can figure something out. Maybe if I typed in tears?

  122. SugarySpicey says:

    RE: STD testing.

    People make all these claims about how careful they are which I find to be complete nonsense for a huge variety of reasons:

    1. Often when someone has made a claim about how regularly they’re tested, when you scratch that claim with questions they quickly make it clear that they don’t even understand what proper testing involves. A routine annual gynecological exam does not test for STDs and giving blood without getting a call-back from the Red Cross doesn’t mean you’re in the clear. Most insurance companies don’t cover testing and the going rate for the 11 panel is $180. I doubt that as many women as claim excessive testing are really shelling out $600 for testing.

    That said, after school specials and MTV have created a hysteria on the topic which is leading people to claim to test more regularly than they do. So, let’s break it down.

    Controlling for third world prostitutes who have an infection rate of appx 17% (of ANY STD), infection rates in the U.S. are very low (for most diseases). You can visit the CDC website to find incidence rates in your area and you’ll find a few interesting facts:

    1. STDs are more common in women under 25 (their bodies haven’t built up immunity yet), women who have served time in prison (which probably says more about their pre-prison life), and women without access to healthcare (which statistically is more likely to be poor, rural, or minority women, when one reviews the CDC testing methodology). IF you are having sex with successful, educated, insured, white women (or affluent enough that they might as well be white when it comes to lifestyle choices and access to healthcare) over the age of 25 your likelihood of catching ANY STD by performing oral sex or going BB is 1 in 350,000. Of catching AIDS or HEP it can get closer to 1 in 750,000.

    2. Same goes for men. So, if you’re having sex with an over 25, educated, successful, insured, white chick (or equivalent) who only has sex with men in the same socioeconomic bracket you’re looking at a one in 700,000 chance of infection.

    Now, this is me reciting statistical probabilities, I’m not saying young, poor, or people of color have STDs because even their your incidence rates are very, very low as long as people are not having sex with professional sex workers (or those who have sex with professional sex workers), drug addicts (or people who bang addicts), the prison population, or the uninsured.

    Obamacare is the most important advancement in preventing the spread of STDs in younger populations because now all women have access to preventative exams which give them access to a DTD if something starts to go wrong “down there”. Instead of continuing to spread infection they can head to the doc, pick up a Z pack, and be disease free in a week. We’ve heard claims of “sleeper STD” which lurk for years, but that really speaks to HEP or HPV (which can’t be prevented with condoms). My gyno friend says he can smell STDs instantly and he’s never once been surprised. He also says each STD has a unique smell, how barftastic is that – definitely advocates for the old sniff test before engaging in the horizontal mambo.

    HERPES is the disease which cannot be cured, it is also caused by skin on skin contact, so condoms won’t protect you very well unless the condom is covering the sore. Not having sex with strangers and avoiding one night stands, then taking a minute to LOOK at each other’s junk (not inspect in an offensive way, but evaluate for smooth, unbroken skin) is the best method for avoiding herpes (and having sex only with people who’s junk you’ve seen multiple times) if you are a sexually active adult with multiple sex partners (even if not at one time).

    Making a blanket statement that you NEVER perform oral sex on SBs shows that the SD is ignorant of the facts, paranoid, or exploiting poor, uneducated, uninsured women who are too young to protect themselves properly and/or too exploited to expect to receive sexual pleasure from their partner; or it shows that someone is only having one night stands with desperate women (who statistically are far more likely to be infected) in which case back to the statement about taking advantage.

  123. SugarySpicey says:

    Let’s stop slut shaming! “Reeks of promiscuity” who are you to judge what promiscuity means for another woman, and to apply your own normative values that say promiscuity is bad?

    If a woman is sexually self-aware enough to physically enjoy what she’s doing, bright enough not to get taken advantage of, and educated enough to protect her physical health (while insured enough to deal with the potential consequences of failed efforts) then she should bang exactly as many people as she enjoys banging, as often as she enjoys banging them.

    Women shouldn’t need to keep some stupid dick tally in their head, imagining that their vagina is somehow tainted by using it. Once you’ve had two sexual partners, you’re already at risk of HPV – which cannot be prevented by condoms, cannot be tested for, and is present in 90% of the human population (and the whole reason for your annual DTD exam).

    I hate slut shaming! It has been used to subjugate and enslave women for centuries and is one of the worst and least talked about forms of bullying!

  124. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    Actually it’s LadyAva2

  125. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @FlyR, thanks for agreeing to look at it. Search for LadyAva and let me know if you find it.

  126. It seemed to me that petite was choosing what worked best for her for long-term contraceptive that didn’t interfere with hormone levels. I’m not sure how that equates to promiscuity, Lainey.

  127. “Josh says:
    October 14, 2014 at 8:35 pm
    @yougottamixwithnoncrazies

    How come you know all kinds of nutcases? What line of work are you in?”

    There are crazies everywhere! Look to your left, and then to your right. There is a 33% chance that there’s a crazy on either side of you. If you look to your left, and then to your right, and no one is there, then there is a 33% chance that you are the crazy. Yep, just did the numbers in my head…well, I didn’t, my friends did…but they’re usually pretty accurate. Not quite sure of the standard deviation, though. They didn’t tell me.

    I come across crazies all the time. I know this one girl, seemingly young, who is in dire pursuit of a 40 year old virgin. She claims to be a born again hetero since a series of unfortunate events and failed luck at lesbian love. Might’ve had something to do with that she thinks that oral sex is yucky, ewwy, caca, bad baby bad. Apparently, she’s not having much sex these days, but with a man who offers minimal gifting, shell bare back him through the basement ceiling. No pills, no IUD, and don’t you even god damnit fucking think about pulling out. She’ll clam down, and syphon your soul. “What sounds would a vagina demon make? slurp slurp slurp pffthbhbhbhb…” Yep, those’ll be the last sounds you hear before Lieutenant Dan falls flaccid.

    Hope that gives you and idea, sweets :).

    Crazies here, crazies there…omg there are crazies EVERYWHERE. Reads like a Dr. Seuss book. I really like that guy.

  128. LegalBarbie28 says:

    yougottabekiddingme says:
    October 15, 2014 at 6:34 am
    @Lainey

    “Lainey says:
    October 15, 2014 at 5:12 am
    @Petite Furthermore, such an aggressive form of BC at such a young age reeks of promiscuity.”

    “Wow. How so?”

    How old is she anyway? I think I remember her mentioning she’s like 20 or 22? Anywhoo, if I had known more about IUDs back when I was 20, I likely would’ve gotten one LOL. Especially at that point in my life, I was so terrified of getting pregnant, I would have loved birth-control that I didn’t need to remember to take every single day. Especially with how busy I was back then. I’m definitely not as terrified now, but if it wasn’t for all of their health issues that they have been causing lately, I would still likely get it. Still nowhere near ready for kids. Hell I caught an attitude this morning when my puppy took it upon himself to sit on my head at 5 AM so I could wake up and take him out to Pee! Lol

  129. @Lainey

    “Lainey says:
    October 15, 2014 at 5:12 am
    @Petite Furthermore, such an aggressive form of BC at such a young age reeks of promiscuity.”

    Wow. How so?

  130. LegalBarbie28 says:

    First=for

  131. LegalBarbie28 says:

    @Lainey

    Yeah the copper is definitely worse. I’ve never been an IUD fan period. It works first some but I’m like… Hell naw I’ll pass! LOL
    I would rather stick with the PIll for all that!

  132. Lainey says:

    @Petite Furthermore, such an aggressive form of BC at such a young age reeks of promiscuity.

    Im aware you said you are not. My point is, the fact that you felt the need to clarify after stating your form of contraception means that you share the same above thought.

  133. Lainey says:

    @LegalBarbie28 that was me aggreeing with you btw.. I just added a few additional facts to let @Petite know why that’s another method I’d rather do without.

  134. Lainey says:

    @LegalBarbie28 but the side effects for the other copper IUDs are actually worse (as far as a woman’s comfort is involved). Mirenas lawsuit has nothing to do with the progestin (one of the only things differentiating it from Paragard) is about the lack of disclosure.

    Statistics for women without children: 2-10% are at risk of pregnancy due to expulsion within the first year if they do not use an additional form of contraception. Of those pregnancies, 30-50% will be ectopic. The problem with this is most woman would not know if the IUD was out of place therefore believing they are 99% protected when they are actually protected at an all time low of 0%

    Yea. No thank you.

  135. flyR says:

    @Petite “I’m not promiscuous by any means. I’ve only had four sexual partners (maybe that is a lot, I dunno.) But I am someone who views STD-testing before intimacy as a prerequisite.”

    That’s great … If that’s sugar and IRL the greater danger may be emotional.

  136. LegalBarbie28 says:

    Well…. Not even that bc there are more IUDs out there than just Mirena. However, doctors prefer to insert IUDs in women that have already had at least one child. So not only do some IUDs have pending lawsuits, if like myself, you have not already bore children, an IUD would not likely be the most preferable form of birth control.

  137. Lainey says:

    @Petite you may want to do more research on IUDs and keep in mind there is a class action lawsuit against Mirena right now. #EasyPeasy

  138. SexyRockstar says:

    I’ve had out-of-state SDs contact me…but I will never talk to one out of the ‘tri-state’ area. This way, if there is a connection, id be willing to meet him after he comes to me first..or at least half way. I was with a lovely SD from Wisconsin during football season. I’ve never been to a Bears vs Packers game, so we went. It was about a four hour drive, and for the most part he came to me.

    Long story short—stick to your area :)

  139. LegalBarbie28 says:

    @Rebecca

    I second FlyR

  140. flyR says:

    @Rebecca – No – Invite him to visit you here…….. International flight for a first meet in a strange country might be compared to a tightrope walk between two highrise buildings. You want to test your survival skills closer to earth.

  141. @petite…
    I gotcha! I grew up in a small town as well so I completely understand. Except for where I come from, everybody wasn’t jumping to get married so they were probably a lot less that Mary their first boyfriends. LOL your sex life is just that…. YOUR sex life. As long as you make the decision to take that step when you feel as if you and the other person is ready and additionally, if you’re protecting yourself, I’d say the hell with numbers 😉

  142. DorkyGuy says:

    well if each of your partners have had sex with four partners… and each of them have had sex with four partners… and so on… you are only six degrees from banging Kevin Bacon.

  143. Petite says:

    @LegalBarbie
    I grew up in a very small town, so most of my high school friends married their first boyfriends/first sexual partners– haha. I also only lost my virginity 3 years ago, so maybe that’s why it feels like more than it is.

  144. That’s a good approach to take petite and your four partners are not a lot :-)

  145. Petite says:

    Re: Birth control and all that other stuff

    There are IUDs that are non-hormonal and last a decade. Never have to worry that 1) you’ve forgotten to take your pill or 2) that it’s somehow less effective because of the time you took it or even 3) that it’ll mess with your hormonal balance. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.

    I’m very happy that research and development is happening with male birth control like vasalgel, but since it won’t be readily available until 2017; I take comfort in the fact that my birth control is 99% effective. Adding on the condom rate of 85-98%, I think I’m gonna be babyproof for a while.

    I’m not promiscuous by any means. I’ve only had four sexual partners (maybe that is a lot, I dunno.) But I am someone who views STD-testing before intimacy as a prerequisite.

  146. SexyRockstar says:

    I’ve only gone BB with ONE SD. we were together for over a year. Him and I got tested…TOGETHER 3 times.

    With sex, after intercourse (with my others after him)…and ready for round two..three.four..hehehe, to get the condom taste off of him, we would shower together…or just suck it up and suck him down :)

    I dislike condoms whole giving oral. But, I always do bring a recent std note from the doctors proving I’m clean and I will not do anything sexual until he can provide the same. Call my crazy, but never ever had an STD

  147. Lainey says:

    @DorkyGuy OMG I was thinking the same thing (Taken). Hell I’m paranoid even flying within the U.S. People are crazy. Ive had one crazy SD and have been super cautious ever since.

  148. DorkyGuy says:

    @Rebecca- have you seen Taken? Maybe I am being paranoid, but think about it… why would he pay to fly you to Spain if there are a ton of very attractive women already there? Why would he risk that much money on someone he has never even met? Even if he is legit, if he spends that much to get you there, how much pressure might that put on you to do thinks you might otherwise not agree to? If you get in trouble, do you have money, knowledge, and ability to get yourself back home? if he takes your passport?

    For me, there seem to be red flags everywhere. Don’t let the hope of a big payoff cause you to let down your guard and put yourself in a bad or potentially dangerous situation.

  149. Josh says:

    @Rebecca,

    I like to believe that there are enough decent US-based SDs available. My “advice”…stay in the US. Spain is no German or Switzerland.

  150. Rebecca says:

    Has any SB been offered an international trip? I am in the states and a potential SD wants me to fly to Spain to see him for the first time. It will be a 15 hour flight! His identity checks out, but I do wonder if there is a non-USA background search website like Intelius. Any info?

  151. “trust an SB even if she gets tested. Unless she was kinda girl who somehow ended up creating a profile, got hooked up with me, then without any input from me deleted her profile from SA and other sites, and somehow we continued our arrangement and I trust that her lifestyle is safe.”

    Haha yea I feel ya! Which is why I said its not appealing to me at all! Lol
    But I keep that policy for all of my relationships. Trust me, the women that you’re screwing in real life outside of SA can easily be just as bad if not worse! so I don’t even limit my rules just to SDs I meet on SA. And order for me to take that route with you, we need to be in a monogamous sexual relationship which usually comes with some time as DG stated and not only do I need to trust you, you need to be tested. Takes a lot for me to just go that route with somebody regardless of who they are and what type of relationship we have.

  152. Josh says:

    *But there are way too many conditions in the above paragraphs for it to come true.

  153. Josh says:

    I WOULD NOT trust an SB even if she gets tested. Unless she was kinda girl who somehow ended up creating a profile, got hooked up with me, then without any input from me deleted her profile from SA and other sites, and somehow we continued our arrangement and I trust that her lifestyle is safe.

    But there are too many if’s in the above paragraphs.

  154. Hahaha Damn my bad DG!!!! Lol

  155. @DG
    “If you are two months into an arrangement, and you both get tested, do you relent?”

    I over looked the “you both get tested” portion of your statement. Lol And I’m not for sure how because yes, that would be the most important part for me. I would feel much better taking that route in a sugar relationship if we were both interested in something long-term and we both got tested. That would make me feel much more comfortable with my SD :-)

  156. DorkyGuy says:

    Well you began your reply with “Respectfully RSD”, lol! :)

  157. @Josh
    Ok…. I won’t repeat it again lol 😉

    @DG
    “LB- You responded to my post as if RSD wrote it, but that’s all good. You make great points and I appreciate your perspective.”

    Really? How so?

  158. DorkyGuy says:

    @LB- You responded to my post as if RSD wrote it, but that’s all good. You make great points and I appreciate your perspective.

  159. Josh says:

    Shhhh…Don’t repeat it. Or she will show up or activate her proxy minions.

  160. Analog Kid says:

    @RSD “A few weeks back, I met an SB from this site. We met at Starbucks, she was attractive enough and entertaining enough to warrant a second date. Second date, she came to my apartment, and over a 20 minute period things went from bad to worse. First, she smelled like cigarettes (profile said non-smoker), she was not cuddly at all, and then she lied about her name. So I asked her to leave. I never know that I’d want to have sex with someone ahead of time, not necessarily even after meeting them once. I’m picky. And I don’t want to sleep with dozens of girls. But if I do sleep with an SB it’s because I think it can work for a reasonable period of time.”

    The main difference between you and I is ……. I would have been able to ascertain any and all incompatible roadblocks during the 1st coffee date and either moved on or made the conscience decision to “plow ahead”. What this boils down to is the difference in what we seek from this site. I am married and thus my approach is what it is. I have no interest in befriending women from this site. I am here to satisfy my need to knock it out of the park with a variety of women. You are single and for you (like many single guys on this site) …. this is your outlet to meet women, engage in some GF/BF fantasy and in this make believe world, perhaps meet woman of your dreams. Not knocking it ……… just this is what I think this site is reduced to as far as SD’s go. One camp or the other. To me …..this site succeeds when SD’s and SB’s riding the same wave-length intersect. I feel sorry for the single guys though as it would appear to me they are consistency disappointed with the results.

  161. @Lainey

    “LegalBarbie28. I FEEL IT! SA needs a link for OraQuick and an option to buy in bulk.”

    Haha too funny!

  162. @Josh

    “The potty-mouthed psychopath and her posse have harassed me ad nauseam on this very topic. AND as a matter of fact, the reference to me not going down on women in general was chastised again on this very thread.”

    Who is it that you are referring to as the potty mouth psychopath? I know I’ve said NOTHING about you going down on an SB so I’m not for sure who it is that you are referring to LOL


  163. DorkyGuy says:
    October 14, 2014 at 8:59 pm
    @LB- as with any relationship, isn’t it feasible to establish some trust? If you are two months into an arrangement, and you both get tested, do you relent? What about if it is a BF? Why is one much different than the other?

    Sure SA is unique in that you have ground rules and such, but I hope over time you get to know him as a person and not just a SD and get some sense as to whether he is honest about his sexual behavior”

    Respectfully RSD, let’s not put words in my mouth. I never said that it wasn’t feasible to establish some trust. Yes I do think trust is important in an SD/SB relationship. However if trust is the only factor that you’re going to make your decisions based off of then IMO I don’t think you are fully taking advantage of all of the opportunities to protect yourself. I definitely understand where YOU are coming from bc as I’ve been keeping up with the posts, I don’t see you to be a typical SD and please take that as a compliment. But what you have to understand is that SDs and SBs do throw away/recycle partners consistently.

    This can become confusing for genuine SDs such as yourself because as I have read your earlier posts, you prefer long term arrangements with SBs who are attractive, educated, and shock there is trust and chemistry. Great! You make a spectacular SD I’m sure. However, what YOU are looking for appears to be more on the borderline of an actual relationship. So it comes as no surprise that you make certain decisions based off of “trust”. A lot of SBs however are NOT looking for what you are. Most are looking for someone who we are compatible with, but in whom they can separate their Sugar arrangements from that of a real relationships. Most of your SBs will not trust as easy. Especially since (and I’ll have to disagree with your comparison) on an intimacy level, sugar relationships are NOT like your real relationships. I’ve read posts from SDs on this blog that have stated that they are not even interested in an SB unless she is prepared for sex on the first meet. Others state that it is expected by the third day and that makes a little bit more sense to me. In my every day relationships, have I had sex fairly quickly? Of course. But that is not what is EXPECTED of me in my real relationships versus I know that is what is expected and the sugar world. So no the same type of trust is not warranted when it comes to an SD/SB sexual relationship. At least not for most women I would imagine but I can only speak for myself. So like I said, everybody does have their own preferences and I’m not going to knock that. But me personally, no I will not put the same trust and a sugar relationship as I would an actual relationship. Not to say that it wouldn’t happen at some point (eventually bear backing an SD). But with how frequently SB’s and SD’s get thrown out like trash, that will never be a decision that I will take based off of emotion.

  164. Josh says:

    @LegalBarbie28

    Re: Bareback and STD

    The potty-mouthed psychopath and her posse have harassed me ad nauseam on this very topic. AND as a matter of fact, the reference to me not going down on women in general was chastised again on this very thread.

    You don’t know in hours or days. It takes months of spending a lot of time together to know. You are still not sure. That said, I have NEVER done bb with an SB or with someone I hardly knew.

    Sorry…bare back is not going to happen with me anytime soon, and definitely not in the sugar arena, unless something unexpected happens and one of the SBs and I go exclusive, yeah right. 😉

  165. Lainey says:

    And to assist with @RSD’s “No Babies for SugarBabies” agenda. I’ll be passing out Plan B at the next event!

  166. Lainey says:

    Lol @LegalBarbie28. I FEEL IT! SA needs a link for OraQuick and an option to buy in bulk.

  167. DorkyGuy says:

    @LB- as with any relationship, isn’t it feasible to establish some trust? If you are two months into an arrangement, and you both get tested, do you relent? What about if it is a BF? Why is one much different than the other?

    Sure SA is unique in that you have ground rules and such, but I hope over time you get to know him as a person and not just a SD and get some sense as to whether he is honest about his sexual behavior

  168. Lainey says:
    October 14, 2014 at 8:48 pm
    @LegalBarbie28 I love you more each day. Lol

    Haha thanks boo! Love u too girly!
    Hell I love sex just as much as the next person (I’m a taurus so hell…. Maybe even more). But I’ll be damn if I let a SD bareback me! Too many come and go!

  169. @Josh

    “I have done bb for years with the women I trusted to be STD free.”

    Sweetheart, how do you TRUST someone to be STD free?serious question, no shade thrown lol but Do they tell you that they are
    STD free on the first date and because they are hot and you have a bit of chemistry, you believe her and proceed to bb on the second date? Or do you guys actually get tested and ensure that you both are STD free?

    And I guess that’s a question for all SDs. How do you determine that it’s okay to proceed to BB (bareback) with a SB if you do BB?

  170. Lainey says:

    @LegalBarbie28 I love you more each day. Lol

  171. Let me correct/add to my previous statement….
    Barebacking randoms is a recipe for STDs period! Lol

  172. And yea don’t put TOO much trust in the pull out method….. Pre-cum is a bitch!!! Lmao

  173. Yea…. No SD is barebacking me! Lol sorry, but too many SDs/SBs dispose of their SDs/SBs too often and it’s always on to the next one. Most SDs/SBs actually have other SDs/SBs secretly on the side when they are not with you. Especially the SBs. Very easy to hide that from an SD. Lol so yes, everybody has their own preferences. IMO, pregnancy wouldn’t even be my concern at that point. Barebacking in the sugar world nowadays is a recipe for an STD! Lol

  174. Josh says:

    @yougottamixwithnoncrazies

    How come you know all kinds of nutcases? What line of work are you in?

  175. Josh says:

    @ys_pls_sir2

    I am sure you don’t see the holes in your “argument”, or you would not have presented it.

    But Kms2014 is bored with the topic sweetheart, and we need to move on. 😉

  176. Josh says:

    @LegalBarbie28

    I have done bb for years with the women I trusted to be STD free. The key is to have control and pull out. However, as you said, there is ALWAYS a chance.

    You are correct. I provide condoms when I am with someone I don’t trust enough to use a condom. Even then I pull out.

    But that’s just me. Others have their preferences and I respect them.

  177. @RSD

    “even if she is a great mom, the fact that she’d get knocked up from an SD shows poor judgment”

    Sweetie…. I think I understand what you were going for….. But the fact is, Anytime you make the decision to fuck a female, there is ALWAYS a chance that she will get pregnant. Women don’t just get “knocked up” by themselves… I’m sure you have heard of the phrase “it takes two to tango. ” So I’m not really for sure how you can make the statement that SBs getting knocked up is “poor judgment “on her part. Maybe it is poor judgment in making the decision to actually keep the baby in the event that she does get knocked up. But you would be just as much to blame as her if she did get knocked up. In essence, You don’t want babies? It’s simple… Either get a vasectomy, or YOU provide the condoms. Chicks will poke holes in em nowadays just to trap you. Lol

  178. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @Josh, “women in older age range have more liabilities and expenses.”

    That is definitely true. For example, the 19 year old SB who was 82 min late needed $500 per month plus $800 per semester. She lived with her parents so her expenses were minimal.

    On the other hand, someone in her 30′s has rent/mortgage, car payment and insurance, health insurance, children and family expenses, endless bills, overdue credit cards, tuition, student loan payments, etc, etc. But in all fairness, some 20 year olds somehow have all these expenses and absurd amounts of bad debt.

    My comment: A woman in her 30’s has figured out and appreciates the difference between being taken care of and taking care of herself. One is not to be mistaken for the other with me.

  179. @Lainey

    No, really. I’m not sure exactly where her baseline crazy falls, but she has been on the verge of physical restraints in a padded room for several months now.

    I dunno. Maybe she just needs a detachable shower head and some peanut butter crackers.

  180. Lainey says:

    @YGBKM I definitely believe it. Lol

  181. I work with a girl who is on birth control on top of her pre-existing hormonal imbalances. The woman is absolutely crazy out of her mind.

  182. I had a boss once who said that her hairy legs were her form of birth control…it kept the boys at bay.

    I’m most certain, though, that she prefers lovers of the same gender. In which case, there’s no need for birth control at all.

  183. DorkyGuy says:

    Re: Male birth control~ I can’t wait for Vasalgel to hit the market. It is big news for men.

  184. Lainey says:

    @RSD for me and my family its a cultural thing. I’ve found that It’s so easy for men to say that when they have no idea how BC affects our bodies. But many don’t realize there is a science to getting pregnant. Rarely does it happen off schedule. Every woman should know her body well enough. Also, I’m not having sex all willy nilly. I’ll have ONE SD at a time with no “side-pieces” lol. My current one knows I joined the site and since I’m a one SD kind of girl I’m sure he’s hoping it takes me forever to find another because that means *throws up peace sign* lol

  185. RSD says:

    Speaking of nursing homes, have any SBs been asked to visit an SD in a nursing home? I have to plan for the future lol.

  186. RSD says:

    @Lainey, your experience with the SD who didn’t care if he got you pregnant (or perhaps wanted to do so) seems so common these days. It seems almost fashionable for men to offer to get a girl pregnant, and girls I know well report this from IRL men they barely met also. People are nuts.

    “I’ve never been on BC btw.” Not sure why. If I was a young, unmarried, sexually active woman, I’d be on BC. I was quite shocked when I got on SA and found virtually none of the girls to be on BC. Best was the SB who got depo shots; watching the injection left me no doubts that she wouldn’t get preggy.

  187. RSD says:

    @Lainey, “if a man is so worried about having other children than he needs to strap it up or become besties with his hand.”

    Or do what I did. Vasectomy. Three sperm-free post-vasectomy semen analyses. Condom. If I have a child now, I’d consider it divine intervention and deal with it.

  188. Lainey says:

    @RSD I definitely understand all that you are saying but it sounds kind of one-sided. I feel like if a man is so worried about having other children than he needs to strap it up or become besties with his hand. Left or right, whatever his preference. (Of course oral is always an option as well. Lol)

    I don’t see the benefit of having a child in a sugar relationship. As you pointed out, yes there is money but everything else is effed up. But i have been in situations where my SD has tried to have sex with me without a condom EVEN THOUGH I told him I was ovulating (I’ve never been on BC btw) and his response was “if i ever get you pregnant I’d take care of you!” WTF NO THANK YOU. Saw him once after that. Couldn’t do it. Felt like a love trap. Lmao

    So i guess my point is it’s not just SBs that sabotage.

  189. RSD says:

    @DorkyGuy, “If she gets knocked up by me, she can live comfortably off of the child support.”

    The thought sends shivers down my spine. First, I wouldn’t want another child. Second, most 20 year olds are not able to properly raise a child, never mind my child, regardless of how much money is tossed at them. Third, she could waste the child support on drugs and alcohol and purses and shoes and ignore the child, and there is hardly anything the SD can do. Fourth, raising a child in an intact-appearing family is hard enough; a child being raised in a ridiculous broken-from-the-start sugar family with a nursing-home-aged father and teenage mother is a recipe for something I’d rather not know about. Fifth, even if she is a great mom, the fact that she’d get knocked up from an SD shows poor judgment, and such an SB is liable to ending up raising the child with an endless stream of men I’d rather keep my child away from. Sixth and perhaps foremost, giving a woman a child is like handing her the keys to your shackles; she can torment you ad lib for at least 18 years, and even then you’re never totally rid of her no matter what she pulls.

    Of course, there are gem SBs with whom many of these issues do not apply, but as we all know, the gems are rare, and most gems are smart enough to avoid a child in this situation. They can enjoy the SD and then move on to a kind, loving, and successful husband; since they are “gems”, they would not sabotage their marriage and live happily ever after…

  190. DorkyGuy says:

    @Lainey~ I haven’t seen all the movies. The books were brilliant, and I found the movies just couldn’t measure up.

  191. Lainey says:

    @DorkyGuy I’m not really a J.K. Rowling fan. The movies are great but I doubt I could’ve read the book. I like classical literature.

  192. Lainey says:

    @Elaine you’re far too old to behave the way you do. You like a hungry pup fighting for its chance on the tit. Well here comes momma and her H’s. Drink up!

    “Terrona”? Really? And the slick comment about teen pregnancy. I’m really starting to think your just a bitter old hag that’s jealous that I have BOTH youth AND wealth. *Shrugs shoulders* Sorry, not sorry.

  193. DorkyGuy says:

    @Lainey- You might want to avoid J. K. Rowling. Everything she does results in a character assassination.

  194. Lainey says:

    @YSP2 no not offended at all. You didn’t address me or attempt to assassinate my character or lecture me so all good in my book. Your opinion is your opinion and that’s all good when it’s expressed the way you expressed it. Xo

  195. FlyR says:

    I can see new pink Ts.

    Bionic Playstation

  196. FlyR says:

    @ys_pls. Be happy to comment but I suspect it’s very good

  197. DorkyGuy says:

    Lol @ “PlayStation”. With a controller made by Hitachi

  198. SouthernSB says:

    @Dorky-But if you get with me, you don’t have to worry about knocking me up at all. I’m 50 so I’ve officially turned from a babymaker into a playstation.

  199. DorkyGuy says:

    I have something to offer women that a 20 year old guy doesn’t. If she gets knocked up by me, she can live comfortably off of the child support.

  200. RSD says:

    @Josh, “women in older age range have more liabilities and expenses.”

    That is definitely true. For example, the 19 year old SB who was 82 min late needed $500 per month plus $800 per semester. She lived with her parents so her expenses were minimal.

    On the other hand, someone in her 30’s has rent/mortgage, car payment and insurance, health insurance, children and family expenses, endless bills, overdue credit cards, tuition, student loan payments, etc, etc. But in all fairness, some 20 year olds somehow have all these expenses and absurd amounts of bad debt.

  201. “Josh says:
    October 14, 2014 at 2:59 pm
    Hahahahaha!”

    You’re so sexy when you laugh, babe.

    [purrs]

  202. Lmao…disturbing, but precise! Every morning when it comes out to stretch :(

  203. DorkyGuy says:

    @YGBKM~ What sounds would a vagina demon make? slurp slurp slurp pffthbhbhbhb…

    If you want to have some fun with the demon believing crowd, at a random point in the conversation just stare off into space… then when they ask what’s wrong, say something like “I just had this overwhelming impulse to pee in your food. I have no idea where that impulse came from, because that’s totally not me. I don’t feel in control.” Then stab their hand with your fork. The last part isn’t strictly necessary, but it is gratifying.

  204. Josh says:

    Sweetheart, I guess we will have to agree to disagree as Kms2014 is bored with this topic. We don’t want to bore her anymore do we? 😉

  205. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @Josh….if you can’t appreciate the difference, then ignorance is bliss.

  206. Josh says:

    Hahahahaha!

  207. ThiaraBright says:

    knock knock , anyone home ?:)

  208. So I just talked to that Pot who said that vaginas have contagious demons. He put me on the phone with his “associate” who is also a minister. We talked about implementation of the project they are working on, followed by an awkward pause, and then the weather, of course. I got off the phone before any attempt at exorcism took place.

    Have any of you gents thought how splendid it’d be to have your sugarsweets talk to your minister, priest, associate?

  209. katpaw dropped in some blogs back, I remember. Said she was transitioning in her new digs. I think there was a blog fight at the time, so she likely saved herself before she got sucked in lol.

    Reminds me of a clip someone posted of grandpa Simpson walking into the house and right back out. It was perfect.

  210. Kms2014 says:

    Whatever happened to katpaw, by the way? She moved to NC but haven’t seen her on in ages….

  211. Kms2014 says:

    Who cares…am tired of this discussion…is boring.

  212. Elaine says:

    @ Southern, I thought teenpregnancies was something that more frequently occured in whealthy and affluent families? 😉

  213. Josh says:

    Since I am very open to dating women in wide age ranges, I don’t see women in older age range providing anything better than women in lower age ranges.

    If anything, women in older age range have more liabilities and expenses.

    THAT is my reality and I am sticking to it.

  214. Elaine says:

    @yesplsir2

    Sure, you are always welcome to join the granny maffia :-)
    (Hmmm, funny this word just came from an Calabrian/Sicilian terrona….)

    Drop me a line at elainesablog at google mail if you like!

  215. Kms2014 says:

    Hehe, very true….;)

  216. SouthernSB says:

    @KMS-In certain projects and trailer parks in the south and southwest you could be a granny in your 30’s.

  217. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @Lainey…good…was afraid I offended. Fantastic Avatar btw

  218. Lainey says:

    @YSP2 Oh I didn’t know what you meant by 20+ but now I got you.

  219. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    HA! Avatar is back!!

  220. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @SexyRockStar: I was mistaken as older than my age up until I hit 25, then always guessed younger than my age. I’ll take it!!

  221. SexyRockstar says:

    Ha, now I have Culture Club song lyrics tatted on me…maybe they will finally believe me that I am 25. That or I am older and that I am lying about my age. Karma Karma Karma Chameleon..you come and go…you come and gooo OH OH #storyofmylife

  222. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    Hi @Lainey, not anything against 20+ girls at all – just a level of experience and maturity that only time/life can provide. Face it, there are qualities exclusive to 20+ girls that I don’t possess anymore either. One is no better/worse than the other, just different.

  223. SexyRockstar says:

    I’m 25…and I get told I look 20ish. I will take it. But, shit, I have pokemon tattoos…maybe thats why? I’ve had SD’s ask to look at my ID. Maybe they are confused because I love Old Style (wheres my Chicago people at, woot, CUBS WIN)

    Ha, I had a picture of me and Ronnie Woo Woo, but then SDs thought I was into guys like him so I took it down. But, I have the picture framed at home.

    But, I never order Old Style at dinner, just a lovely red wine.

  224. Lainey says:

    “I embrace the fact that I can offer something that 20+ girls can’t”

    @YPS2 what exactly does this mean?

  225. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    Stepping gingerly out of the sandbox for a moment (read: don’t want to be pulled into the cat fight drama), it’s refreshing to read the sb experiences of the 30+yr olds. I’ve never been insecure about my age, and no problems finding suitors (if using the term ‘suitors’ doesn’t make me sound old…what does??). I’ve been told I look young for my age anyway. I embrace the fact that I can offer something that 20+ girls can’t.

    @Elaine, I’d love to connect as a peer if you’re interested.

    For the SD’s on the site, anyone willing to critique a profile? Would love some feedback.

  226. “SexyRockstar says:
    October 14, 2014 at 8:39 am
    @yougottabe
    Odd thing is, he lives pretty darn close to me. I am scared to see him in public. HA. I might just start making strange animal noises when I see him. Just to creep him out, like he did to me.”

    Yeah, that’s pretty creepy, SexyRock. Do the girls seem aware that they are being recorded?

    If making animal noises doesnt work, try squinting one eye, and widening the other while laughing hysterically and punching yourself in the side of the head, then take out a pack of peanut butter crackers, crumble them in both hands, shove them in your mouth, and eat them like cookie monster with crumbs falling out.

    Yep, thatll take care of’m. Garantizado!

  227. RSD says:

    A few weeks back, I met an SB from this site. We met at Starbucks, she was attractive enough and entertaining enough to warrant a second date. Second date, she came to my apartment, and over a 20 minute period things went from bad to worse. First, she smelled like cigarettes (profile said non-smoker), she was not cuddly at all, and then she lied about her name. So I asked her to leave. I never know that I’d want to have sex with someone ahead of time, not necessarily even after meeting them once. I’m picky. And I don’t want to sleep with dozens of girls. But if I do sleep with an SB it’s because I think it can work for a reasonable period of time.

  228. Josh says:

    Respectful disagreements are always appreciated.

  229. DorkyGuy says:

    @SexyRockstar

    “I was totally down for getting one of your penetrating massages, and even open to making my porno film début… but then I saw what you are working with on camera. My friends would never let me live it down. For the last three days I haven’t been able to get off, because just the thought of porno starts me giggling at the memory”

  230. flyR says:

    @sexyrockstar – I guess one of the nice things about him is that he made his expectations clear…. You’ll be a movie star.

    One critical issue – if there is any chance the girls are under 18 you do not want that on your computer.

    I disagree with the prior writer in that I think it is VERY appropriate to out someone who exhibits this behavior. There might even be some who will thank you for the link to a great POT .

  231. Josh says:

    What happens if he has some weird fetish for that particular animal?

  232. SexyRockstar says:

    @yougottabe
    Odd thing is, he lives pretty darn close to me. I am scared to see him in public. HA. I might just start making strange animal noises when I see him. Just to creep him out, like he did to me.

  233. RSD says:

    @Analog Kid,”If I don’t want to have sex with a SB there isn’t even a 1st date”

    I don’t think there is any way for me to know ahead of time if I’d want to have sex with someone. They could be hot, but the moment I meet them I realize there is no chemistry. The pics should establish if there is enough attraction to make a first meet worthwhile, but there is no way to guarantee attraction.

  234. “SexyRockstar says:
    October 14, 2014 at 8:30 am
    Anyways, ladies, if you get an email from a guy who is in his 40′s, from a Chicago Suburb, who gives this special kind of massages, run. RUN away and never return.

    Yeah, he kept sending me videos of him banging random girls. I love porn just as much as the next person, but, I wonder if THEY know he is sending them out to every girl on SA in the Chicagoland area. uuuggghhh.”

    WOW! Total ugh!

  235. “Elaine says:
    October 14, 2014 at 7:52 am
    @ Kidding

    Peanut butter cracker WITHOUT jelly!?”

    Yeah…it’s a hard knock life, Elaine. I just pretended that peanut butter and jelly were on a break…a free day pass, maybe. Peanut butter got laid 6 times during that break. Not so sure about jelly.

  236. SexyRockstar says:

    Anyways, ladies, if you get an email from a guy who is in his 40’s, from a Chicago Suburb, who gives this special kind of massages, run. RUN away and never return.

    Yeah, he kept sending me videos of him banging random girls. I love porn just as much as the next person, but, I wonder if THEY know he is sending them out to every girl on SA in the Chicagoland area. uuuggghhh.

  237. Josh says:

    I believe that the best way to handle problem SA members is through SA support email and not by posting their profiles id here.

    Kirsten?

  238. SexyRockstar says:

    I’m sorry, I meant to put, where can I find his profile ID…you ladies asked, so I’ll post it.

    I would of done it right away, but I went to the city last night and got some ink done!!!! two new tattoos…ahh. I am so excited. They look beautiful.

  239. Josh says:

    “Have a nice lay” is a much better wish.

  240. SexyRockstar says:

    Hey, so I mentioned my story about the creeper and naked pictures. Where is his profile ID?

    He lives in a suburb of Chicago and he even has videos and on his private photos, naked pictures of his former SB.

  241. Elaine says:

    @ FB

    He should choose whatever he fancies, as at the end of the day it is him paying the bill, no? :-)
    Different strokes for different folks!

    Have a nice day you too!

  242. Elaine says:

    @ Kidding

    Peanut butter cracker WITHOUT jelly!?

  243. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Elaine

    There is a SD dilemma. The young desirable SB’s are (many times) upfront that they do not want a connection, while the undesirable older SB’s claim they do. What is a SD to do?

    Have a nice day :-).

  244. “GTT”bang-bang”Envy’s “ongoing connections”?
    Like he explained: “check, check, check, bang, bang, bang, next”?

    Yeah, sounded like very cheap… ehhhhh, I meant very “deep”, connections indeed! ”

    Reads more like vending machine snatch.

    Damned vending machine at work took my money, and kept my peanut butter crackers the other day. Rinser, for sure.

  245. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    GTT”bang-bang”Envy’s “ongoing connections”?
    Like he explained: “check, check, check, bang, bang, bang, next”?

    Yeah, sounded like very cheap… ehhhhh, I meant very “deep”, connections indeed! :-)

    This blog is filled with deep wisdom and great recommendations and information for newbies lately!

  246. Josh says:

    @Analog

    I have no problem with your approach at all.

    Just know…that unlike you gtt_envy likes to have ongoing “connection” with his SBs. I don’t have any problem with that either.

    The only thing I have had problem with him is that from time to time he will say something super idiotic against me, and I gladly and promptly return the favor. And his sub needs of a thorough thrashing is satisfied. You can see how “happy” he is in his post above. LOL!

  247. Josh says:

    @FatB’StardSA

    “Your GF who looks like Angelina Jolie…”

    I have no use for a “GF” drama in my life.

  248. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Josh

    “If I had such SO, I would be monotonous forever.”

    You are doing quite well being monotonous right now. Your GF who looks like Angelina Jolie is a good influence on you.

    Have a nice day :-).

    P.S.

    I still think gtt_envy is a prick.

  249. gtt_envy says:

    @Josh, whatever Mr.I_have_no_life_and_live_on_a_blog no doubt Sa has it’s own real live Catfish!!

  250. ““I am not sure why some of you think that you can just insult people and then blame them for insulting you.”

    @Josh truer words have not been spoken”

    Newly spoken, and highly contradictory words, in all honesty, Joshbabe.

  251. Lainey says:

    Wait maybe I should clarify. THIS is my philosophy not the longer rant Lmao

    “If I don’t want to have sex with a SB there isn’t even a 1st date….”

  252. Lainey says:

    “I am not sure why some of you think that you can just insult people and then blame them for insulting you.”

    @Josh truer words have not been spoken

  253. Lainey says:

    @Analog Kid that’s funny because that’s my same approach to my SDs. Out with him now. Hoping to get banged later.. “Once, Twice, Three times a BANGING” Lmao the Lainey Remix.. S/O Lionel Richie

  254. “Josh says:
    October 13, 2014 at 11:06 pm
    If you dont follow, you aren’t missing much. Follow what YOU want to follow girl. Isn’t that the oft-repeated sage advice given by SBs to other SBs?”

    [crickets]

    [follows the yellow brick road, oils tinman while cowardly lion watches on in the bushes]

    Wonder if the wizard has a kinky side…

  255. Analog Kid says:

    @Josh: At the risk of ending up categorized I will say I have little doubt gtt_envy is what he claims to be for the simple reason that I’m in the same boat and have similar interests on SA as he. Like him I have a great SO and like him I have zero interest in befriending any SB I meet on this site …. go out with socially or believe it or not …….even care what their name is. Don’t get me completely wrong ….. for the 2-3 hours we spend together every few weeks, the conversation will be engaging and in that moment I will certainly care and offer up intelligent opinions and advice ….. after all I do consider myself a gentleman. But make no mistake, this is all about the sex for me and I’ve been around the block enough times to know how to pull it off without coming off like the self-centered prick that most guys can’t seem to avoid. Bottom line ……….we like variety and this is the perfect stage to pull it off.

  256. Josh says:

    If you dont follow, you aren’t missing much. Follow what YOU want to follow girl. Isn’t that the oft-repeated sage advice given by SBs to other SBs? 😉

  257. Josh says:

    @Analog Kid

    “@RSD:” Second moral–if you don’t want to have sex with the SB by the second date, move on, the chemistry is just not there.”

    If I don’t want to have sex with a SB there isn’t even a 1st date…”

    That seems like the first law of banging to me:

    Eliminate unnecessary encounters to be available for the necessary ones.

    @RSD you got a great model going but Analog might just have got you beat on that one.

  258. “Josh says:
    October 13, 2014 at 10:56 pm
    @yougottamakestuffup

    Always!”

    I dont follow…whatdyou mean?

  259. Josh says:

    @yougottamakestuffup

    Always!

  260. Analog Kid says:

    @RSD:” Second moral–if you don’t want to have sex with the SB by the second date, move on, the chemistry is just not there.”

    If I don’t want to have sex with a SB there isn’t even a 1st date…..

  261. Now does not exist in the absence of then. Everyone gets somewhere somehow.

  262. Josh says:

    *how he presents living in NOW.

  263. Josh says:

    @yougottaliveinnow

    NOW is all we got. Does not mean that we risk the future in a wanton manner.

    I can speak for myself that I wasted my youth for the future, not in the brightest possible way but I “think” I am on track in relation to NOW.

    I recommend Eckhart Tolle’s videos related to have he presents living in NOW.

    What’s the freebie to watch his videos? His million dollar laugh. He won the funniest laugh award not too long ago.

  264. Josh says:

    *monogamous

  265. Josh says:

    @gtt_envy

    “@Josh, I claim to be 30′s lol technically I’m 39. Just as you claim to be a SD, but live on the blog posting every 30-45 every day, of every week, of every month.

    Go watch Catfish I’m sure you would fit in perfect!!”

    I am not sure why some of you think that you can just insult people and then blame them for insulting you.

    You are one of the original characters who tried to bump me off along with your Momma. You failed. I won. Get over it.

    Then again, are you so miserable with your life that you have to take jabs at people at random and hope for the posse to join you in the ridicule?

    For those who are learning the ropes of this blog. There are different types of characters: instigators, posse, and peacemakers. Then of course spinless bloggers who side with the biggest bully around.

    They work in concert to jump on certain bloggers again and again and again ad nauseam.

    gtt_envy is one such miserable characters who claims to have a great “significant other” but boastfully cheats on her regularly. If I had such SO, I would be monotonous forever.
    Get a life!

    Lets see which combination of posse and peacemakers are going to respond to this post.

  266. on cattiness…

    Hmmm…

    Im just gonna say that there are few situations in life where one isnt both pupil and teacher. Even those with experience can learn from those without, even if it’s merely in conceptualizing a differing perspective. Youth, in my opinion, is internally cultivated, outwardly projected, and consistently renewed with our reception to the unknown, objective appraisal of ourselves and others, and the courage to take what works for us, and let go of what doesnt while interjecting bouts of spontaneous adventure in between. There is something to take from all of our interactions and exposures.

    That said, I think it’s pertinent to growth to embrace the duality of these roles. It is said that next to every elementary school should be a retirement center. Why? Because there seems to be a huge disconnect in our society between where we are, where we’re going, and where we’ve been. Every pussy on the planet starts out young, and ends with seasoned stories of it’s whereabouts. Some of these stories may be similar stories that have evolved over time, or perhaps theyre the same story, but our own perceptions of those stories change as we digest new input and experiences. Every one has their own experiences, their own stories. In the big scheme of things, the plot is mostly the same, and there really isnt much variation in conclusions despite the cast.

    They say that youth is wasted on the young. I think it’s important to be mindful that, no matter one’s stage in life, there has always been a time when we were younger, less experienced, and will always be a time when they will be older and wiser. These things dont always run congruently or parallel.

    I think it’s in everyone’s best interest to be cognizant, not only of one’s station, but also of those on distal points of the spectrum. There is something for everyone to learn and share. Here and elsewhere.

    The ultimate expiration date is that in which one ceases to renew, regenerate and grow.

  267. Kms2014 says:

    Fair enough (:

  268. “Kms says:

    Yougottabe…are you drinking tonight, or just a bit randy? Hehe”

    Im sober as yesterday, but Im always randy :/. Im mostly being ridiculous, but perhaps a drink would be the antidote for shakes of the vaginal variety? Challenge accepted!

  269. Josh says:

    Love many of the movies mentioned above.

  270. Kms2014 says:

    “yougottabekiddingme says:
    October 13, 2014 at 9:15 pm
    In Indian, fathers braid their daughters hair during wedding ceremony. It’s a beautiful ritual.

    Toenail polishing…

    Ive found that some of the best nail techs Ive encountered in salons are men. One had a cock so seemingly lengthy, it wouldve fallen into my soak water had it not been contained in his pants. Tickle my toes and bend me over, please…after my toenails dry, of course.

    Hair braiding with a partner? The ultimate challenge (I like ultimate challenges) would be to see how well he can braid my hair while Im throating him and licking his sergeants, and tickling my fancy all at the same time. I wouldnt even mind if the braid was lopsided. Nope, I wouldnt. Id wear my new hairstyle to work the next day, and when my colleagues (those catty bitches) asked who did my hair, Id tell them, and then let them smell my fingers, if they so wished. Challenge accepted.

    Was that too much?”

    Yougottabe…are you drinking tonight, or just a bit randy? Hehe

  271. Petite says:

    She is. Love her to death :).

  272. Kms2014 says:

    Well, she sounds like one of those cool hippie moms….

  273. Petite says:

    Lol my mom is currently on the second month of a who-knows-how-long road trip around the country (and canada)– playing her music and camping. Soooo I don’t know if I would exactly call her and adult, but she is hilarious.

  274. Kms2014 says:

    I know, hehe 😉 but I consider my sense of humour pretty immature and childish, haha…never heard that one before!

  275. Petite says:

    @Kms
    I was just using the name others were using in jest– No offense (or implications) intended!
    You’re not even old enough to be my mother, so it wasn’t meant as any sort of insult.

  276. Kms2014 says:

    “Petite says:
    October 13, 2014 at 7:57 pm
    @DorkyGuy
    Now I need to know your favorite musical….

    @Granny Mafia
    I want to meet you guys for drinks so badly! You remind me so much of my mom. While she’s a great deal older than you, she has the same hilarious brand of humor. When she was 50, she started a band with some other ladies in their 40s and 50s and they called themselves “The Hot Flash.” *sigh* I’m gonna call her now.”

    ? I’m in my 30’s…since when is that a granny? Lol!

  277. Petite says:

    @Dorkyguy
    In my experience, you go more for the atmosphere and audience participation than you do for the movie itself. It’s a cult classic, but not one I would go out of my way to watch by myself.

  278. Petite says:

    @Dorky
    Go to the stage door and try it out on her!

    @Lainey
    I went to Rocky showings growing up- full dress and all :P.

  279. DorkyGuy says:

    @Lainey~ Watched it once, but didn’t really enjoy it… maybe I need to give it another chance? By the way, the DraftHouse has “quote-along” showings of Rocky Horror Picture Show, and they give you a prop bag as you go in, encouraging audience participation. Supposedly it’s a really fun time. It must be, as the prop bag has a condom 😛 [img]http://drafthouse.com/movies/the_rocky_horror_picture_show/[/img] I noticed it because they are doing something similar with Princess Bride this month.

  280. DorkyGuy says:

    “@DorkyGuy but in all fairness if you’re going to say Dirty Dancing then you have to say Flashdance, Saturday Night Fever (LOVE the BeeGees), Foot Loose and Fame”

    Of course! I’m gonna live forever. But first I want to put Baby in a corner 😛

  281. Lainey says:

    OMG how could we forget Rocky Horror Picture Show?!?! @Petite @DorkyGuy please tell me you’re a fan!

  282. “@YGBKM~ That is an amazing visual! Your skill will be measured in how messy your hair is the next day. If you have a perfect braid, that may not be the best sign, lol!”

    hehe…Im totally gonna win!

  283. Lainey says:

    @DorkyGuy but in all fairness if you’re going to say Dirty Dancing then you have to say Flashdance, Saturday Night Fever (LOVE the BeeGees), Foot Loose and Fame

  284. “Josh says:
    The arrangement should start with something like, “even though you are not that hot but I would like to offer….””

    Ridiculous, babe.

  285. DorkyGuy says:

    @Petite~ Well thank you very much… What are the odds that Baby needs a SD when she isn’t on stage? 😛 There have to be certain sugar perks to being a professional dancer, right?

    @YGBKM~ That is an amazing visual! Your skill will be measured in how messy your hair is the next day. If you have a perfect braid, that may not be the best sign, lol!

  286. gtt_envy says:

    @Josh, I claim to be 30’s lol technically I’m 39. Just as you claim to be a SD, but live on the blog posting every 30-45 every day, of every week, of every month.

    Go watch Catfish I’m sure you would fit in perfect!!

  287. sweetie says:

    Just a tad, Gottabe.

  288. In Indian, fathers braid their daughters hair during wedding ceremony. It’s a beautiful ritual.

    Toenail polishing…

    Ive found that some of the best nail techs Ive encountered in salons are men. One had a cock so seemingly lengthy, it wouldve fallen into my soak water had it not been contained in his pants. Tickle my toes and bend me over, please…after my toenails dry, of course.

    Hair braiding with a partner? The ultimate challenge (I like ultimate challenges) would be to see how well he can braid my hair while Im throating him and licking his sergeants, and tickling my fancy all at the same time. I wouldnt even mind if the braid was lopsided. Nope, I wouldnt. Id wear my new hairstyle to work the next day, and when my colleagues (those catty bitches) asked who did my hair, Id tell them, and then let them smell my fingers, if they so wished. Challenge accepted.

    Was that too much?

  289. Petite says:

    Lol!! xD Welcome to the world, DorkyGuy

  290. Petite says:

    Where do you live DorkyGuy?
    Even growing up in the middle of nowhere, there was a theater about 30 minutes away that did musicals.
    I would be happy to provide you with a list of musicals you should watch or listen to. :P.

    To be fair, I did go to college for it— so there’s that haha

  291. DorkyGuy says:

    @Petite~ I am so jealous. You’ve enjoyed a level of immersion that I haven’t had a chance to experience yet. I need to get more involved locally, I think.

  292. Lainey says:

    @DorkyGuy you’ve GOTTA be kidding me. “Cabaret” is a Liza classic. And the AMAZING Barbara Streisand in “Funny Girl”.. “Dont rain on my parade” has been in my head all day

  293. DorkyGuy says:

    @Petite~ Love the quote! Every once in a while, I’ll voice the opinion that “love is a decision”, and it is usually received poorly. After all, “the heart wants what the heart wants”, right?

  294. Lainey says:

    GREAT QUOTE @Petite

  295. sweetie says:

    Not an opening, but not the anathema either.

  296. Petite says:

    To be fair, Cellblock Tango is the perfect mix of brilliant storytelling, dancing, and music.
    Just know she has good taste 😉

  297. Petite says:

    Since we’re all talking about love and stuff. This is probably my favorite quote on the subject:

    “For children love is a feeling; for adults, it is a decision. Children wait to learn if their love is true by seeing how long it lasts; adults make their love true by never wavering from their commitment.”

  298. Lainey says:

    @Petite yes LOVE LOVE LOVE the movie. Watched it with my daughter and her fave is “Cellblock Tango”.. I wonder if I should worried LOL

  299. DorkyGuy says:

    Re: Braiding hair~ I have two daughters. I can braid the hell out of hair. But it’s not going to be an opening move with a girl that I want to be attracted to me, lol!

  300. Petite says:

    @Lainey
    Ah! Seems like you’re a true Kander and Ebb fan.. What a great duo. All fantastic– And the movie version of Chicago was great too! The whole concept of that show is brilliant though.

  301. RSD says:

    @Lainey, my SB who lasted four year told me on the third date, “I love you so much.” I was so scared and felt totally smothered, but it lasted another four years. Why let a little love get in the way if things are otherwise good?

  302. DorkyGuy says:

    @RSD~ “Don’t go based on what he says but based on what he does” That is epic advice, and should be tattooed on every girl’s arm as soon as she hits puberty, so that she can never forget it. That single peace of advice could solve so many problems.

    *SPOILER ALERT* (not really… I give away a plot, but if you haven’t seen it, you were never going to watch it anyway)

    @sweetie… yeah, girls being kidnapped and falling in love with their captors, and presenting that as a virtuous outcome… might not go over so well today! Bless their beautiful hide.

    There is a certain romance to it that is still endearing… The songs “When You’re In Love” and “Goin’ Courtin'” spring to mind. Even modern women want to be courted, right? And as much as most folks on this blog think Love is a myth, I think deep down we all want it to be real and to find it. My hat is off to the lucky few who succeed.

    @Lainey~ How on earth did you hit 4 that I haven’t seen? What are the odds?? Especially “Cabaret” and “Chicago”. I keep meaning to see them but never get around to it.

    By the way, I also love “State Fair”, but only for the opening song. That song gets stuck in my head, and I love it. “I’m as restless as a willow in a windstorm. I’m as jumpy as a puppet on a string”.

  303. Petite says:

    @DorkyGuy
    Haha don’t you worry your pretty little head about “gaydar”– After deciding I didn’t want to major in Engineering, I ended up in Musical Theater instead. I like a man who can talk about my favorite composers. I’m definitely more into the modern era of musicals (not the jukebox ones, I mean the original stories, original music). Falsettos is probably my all time favorite. I mean, come on, starting the entire show off with a song called “Four Jews in A Room Bitching”? It’s great. But Next to Normal (heartbreaking, and the music… ahhh) and Book of Mormon (just as campy as Cannibal the Musical, but so much more impactful) are recent favorites.
    As far as 7 brides 7 brothers goes, I just saw a theater company put that on last year; so it’s definitely still out there going strong. And let’s be real, Grease and My Fair Lady have their fair share of sexism as well. It’s just a tale of the time. Speaking of Grease– I definitely met Jim Jacobs when I saw Memphis on Broadway back in 2010. He has so many amazing stories about the people he based the characters on in Grease. (I don’t think that sentence made any sense at all, but whatever).
    Singing in the Rain is probably my favorite movie musical; if we count operas, then Pirates of Penzance comes in a close second– didn’t see the new Les Mis, but I was impressed by their approach. I’m nervous about JRB’s Last Five Years– what makes it so powerful onstage is the fact that this couple is only really together and hearing each other twice in the whole thing. I don’t think that’ll really translate on screen. But the music is solid, so who knows. Same goes for Into the Woods… I was bummed the trailer hardly had any of the score. We’ll see.

    Oh my goodness, I need more friends to talk about musicals with… Obviously.

  304. Lainey says:

    @RSD thanks. Ya those are his words but his actions say he’s falling for me. He’s not smothering me but just the conversation of emotions makes me uncomfortable. He even called me out on mimicking emotion..

    I will love ANYONE who gets the following movie reference.

    He said whenever he tells me he likes me I reply similar to “I love… LAMP”

  305. RSD says:

    @sweetie, “Really, emasculating? I’m sure she did not see it at such. Why did you?” Because that’s something I’d see her having her girlfriends do to her. I doubt if she were hooking up with an NFL player that she’d be asking him to braid her hair.

    Emasculation is a normal part of most relationships. At some point women expend a lot of energy trying to “emasculate” their man, which only makes them find him less attractive and sends him into the arms of another woman who is yet to emasculate him.

  306. sweetie says:

    Hahaha! I’ll make it a test from now on and see how many dudes get embarrassed or say it’s too gay.

  307. Lainey says:

    @DorkyGuy A Few of my faves are “Funny Girl”, “Cabaret”, “Bye Bye, Birdie”, “Chicago”

  308. RSD says:

    @Lainey, “I just want to let you know I care about you,” can mean anything. Perhaps he doesn’t care one bit about you but thinks you want to hear that. Or maybe he’s majorly in love and wants to gradually break that ice. Don’t go based on what he says but based on what he does. If he takes care of you and is not smothering you, be glad someone at least says he cares about you. And if he’s not taking care of you, then move on. And if he’s smothering you, just tell him; he will either back off or become more obnoxious and make you end things.

    In my experience, if I don’t care about an SB beyond what she could do for me in bed, it won’t last. It’s too easy to replace fuckbuddies, but hard to replace friends. Similarly, if I feel that the SB only cares for money and not me in any personal way, it will fizzle very quickly. So caring about an SB/SD is a good thing.

  309. Josh says:

    @Sweetie

    Don’t sweat it. THAT was emasculating alright. That would put a man in a definite gay (bi?) zone.

    Lovingly running your fingers through a woman’s hair is the limit.

  310. Lainey says:

    Lmao @Josh you’re killing me with this “real” man bit. Honestly if he’s a “real” man in the bedroom he can be a good ole Beauregard LaFontaine and I wouldn’t care

    *Definitely showing my immaturity here by making an American Dad reference*

  311. sweetie says:

    Dorky, I remember seeing “7 brothers” as a kid. Liked it a lot. Obviously did not think of gender roles back then.

  312. sweetie says:

    RSD ” I took up the emasculating challenge…”

    Really, emasculating? I’m sure she did not see it at such. Why did you?

  313. RSD says:

    On the topic of pimples, I’d say a couple small one are kinda cute on an SB, although they’re a constant reminder that the girl is too young for me.

    But another problem is that these pimples appear to be contagious. An SB I was with a few months back (I wrote about how I broke up with her because she canceled like 3 out of 4 Thursdays in a row) would get a few pimples and when I was with her I started breaking out all over my forehead. Tazorac helped, but dumping her was curative.

  314. DorkyGuy says:

    @Petite~ There are a few. “7 Brides for 7 Brothers” is just brilliant. It is so politically incorrect that I doubt it would get made today. Can you imagine the feminists? But it is a terrific story, and the songs and choreography are fabulous. Of course “Sound of Music” will reign forever as the king of musicals, with Julie Andrews as the queen. “Oklahoma!” is good, but even better is “Guys and Dolls”. “Grease” is always fun to watch. John Travolta doesn’t get enough respect as a dancer. He was very good. More modern, I quite enjoyed the new Les Miserables. There is no way I could pick one favorite… probably one for every mood!

    And, you can see why I don’t mention it 😀 I’m even setting off my own gaydar.

  315. RSD says:

    @Josh, lol, how did you know the guy’s face was covered in pimples.

    But really, she was good looking and charming, and could’ve done much better finding a bf than the guy she fell for. I at least hope she made him get his pimples treated.

    As for pimples, I once met an SB who was attractive but who just had so many pimples. She was 25 but looked like a pimple-faced 15 year old, and I just could not warm to her at all. We ended up meeting for dessert like four or five times, but I just could not bring myself to even want to kiss her. So I ended things. Moral of the story–if you have bad acne, have it treated. Second moral–if you don’t want to have sex with the SB by the second date, move on, the chemistry is just not there.

  316. Josh says:

    @RSD

    Braiding did you in.

    The “real” man pays for the top salon to get the braiding done. “Real” man does not braid a pimply face’s hair. Doing so drives her into the arms of another pimply face project who demands her to pay for the date.

  317. Petite says:

    @DorkyGuy
    Now I need to know your favorite musical….

    @Granny Mafia
    I want to meet you guys for drinks so badly! You remind me so much of my mom. While she’s a great deal older than you, she has the same hilarious brand of humor. When she was 50, she started a band with some other ladies in their 40s and 50s and they called themselves “The Hot Flash.” *sigh* I’m gonna call her now.

  318. RSD says:

    @Dorkey “nah, being the sensitive guy is just a good way to land in the friend zone. What woman wants to be taken by a guy who likes romantic comedies and enjoys painting her nails?”

    I agree. One time an SB, after a bout of amazing sex, randomly asked me to braid her hair; she wanted to see if I could do it. Never having braided before, I took up the emasculating challenge, did an impressive enough job impeccably braiding her hair that she decided to leave it braided for the rest of the day, only to break up with me an hour later because she was in love with some college sweetheart. I still wonder if the emasculation of turning me into her hair braider had anything to do with it; whether her college bf noticed her braids and got suspicious and she got scared and ended things; or something totally unrelated happened (i.e. she really was in love with someone else and couldn’t keep cheating any longer).

  319. Kms2014 says:

    Well, that is a sweet thing to do! I think many women love that…

  320. DorkyGuy says:

    I wouldn’t go so far as to say I have a foot fetish… but there is a time and place to give them attention.

    If she’s had a stressful day (especially if she’s been standing all day), dim the lights, soft music, sit her down with a hot foot bath, massage the shoulders and neck while they soak, and then do a nice foot massage. At the end, she’s either going to be asleep or ready action. Even if she falls asleep she’ll wake up very appreciative.

    Not a fetish, but an occasional treat, mostly for her.

  321. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    “He might have had a foot fetish, though, haha.”

    There you go.

  322. Kms2014 says:

    DG, there is someone for everyone. One friend’s husband would always paint her toenails for her..she loved it and thought it was sweet. He might have had a foot fetish, though, haha.

  323. DorkyGuy says:

    nah, being the sensitive guy is just a good way to land in the friend zone. What woman wants to be taken by a guy who likes romantic comedies and enjoys painting her nails? Fundamentally, most girls want the affection of the guy who is full of machismo and who is never wrong ;-). I try not to mention musical theater until after the third date.

  324. Josh says:

    What’s the point of putting honey out for bees?

    How many people feed milk to adult cows?

  325. Kms2014 says:

    @DG, did you ever pretend you were gay to get invited to the girl sleepover parties? I have seen that in movies before, hehe 😉

  326. Kms2014 says:

    You sound fun, actually….do you enjoy shopping, too? Nothing better than a heterosexual man who loves to shop!

  327. DorkyGuy says:

    So does that mean I can get in on the chick drama? Can I be a STEREOTYPICAL WOMAN? I know there will be a pillow fight later…

    Does this adams apple make me look fat?

  328. DorkyGuy says:

    @KMS~ I don’t really count though. I mean, I like ballet and show tunes. There’s a 50% chance I might be a chick, and just don’t know it.

  329. Lainey says:

    If it’s not worth it then it should not have been mentioned at all but like a STEREOTYPICAL WOMAN you could NOT resist LMAO

  330. Kms2014 says:

    @DG…you are the first man ever to admit being wrong to me…I mean, ever. Why doesn’t it feel better? Guess in theory just thought it would be more satisfying, hehe 😉

  331. DorkyGuy says:

    @KMS~ Looked it up… evidently I was wrong! If you leave honey out, bees will find it and feed.

    Someday I’ll be right in an argument with a girl. someday…. *shuffles away wistfully*

  332. SouthernSB says:

    Lainey says:
    October 13, 2014 at 6:32 pm

    I’m completely calm. Watching all three of you is like a social experiment. Same approach, same rebuttal, SAME opinions and character assassinations. Not one original thought.

    Lmao. Women.

    I was going to say something but then I realized it just isn’t worth it. I had a hard day at the gym and I’m pretty exhausted. I’m making it an early night and going to bed. You never realized just how many squats you do in a day until you blast your body doing squats in Bodypump and your hamstrings and gluts and screaming. Have fun and goodnight.

  333. FlyR says:

    I have a feeling that being taken prisoner by the granny mafia is as close to paradise as a non believer is ever going to get……

  334. Lainey says:

    @Sweetie then don’t address me. Address those that keep bringing me up reigniting the flame.

  335. Lainey says:

    I’m completely calm. Watching all three of you is like a social experiment. Same approach, same rebuttal, SAME opinions and character assassinations. Not one original thought.

    Lmao. Women.

  336. sweetie says:

    I’m not inserting myself into it, Lainey. The drama is obvious. I think we can do without it, that’s all. It’s been a few days now.

  337. DorkyGuy says:

    @KMS~ but bees are attracted to nectar, not honey. they use the nectar to make their own honey. If you put a jar of honey out, I don’t think they would notice.

  338. Lainey says:

    @Sweetie Let me guess if I address you you’re going to say “you don’t do drama” after inserting yourself into it?

    But I see that we agree on the slick smileys, LOLs and so on. So I’ll let it breathe.

  339. SouthernSB says:

    @KMS-Is it bees? I haven’t used it in so long I might have forgotten. My old mind isn’t as sharp as it use to be. I totally blame it on the kid.

  340. sweetie says:

    I meant “A smiley wink”…

  341. SouthernSB says:

    @Lainey-Seriously girl, I think a Valium and a glass of wine may be in order.

  342. Kms2014 says:

    Oh Lainey, you are not worthy of my shade throwin, yo 😉 I am resident blog bitch, but please feel free to take my place…you have me beat in that category for sure, Hehe!

    @Josh, my mother used to always say bees, not flies? Which is the proper one?

  343. sweetie says:

    Josh “Re: “you aren’t that hot”

    This phrase needs to be used more often but most men are chicken and don’t say that to women’s face. I certainly am one of them.

    The arrangement should start with something like, “even though you are not that hot but I would like to offer….”

    I don’t know, Josh. Do guys like to be told they’re not hot enough for us? Or is “I don’t feel the chemistry” better? Somebody on the blog mentioned the expectations by the SDs to get the hottest hottie when they know the hottie is out of their league. And sometimes money can’t fix the lack of attraction.

    @ Lainey – Looks like you’re digging your own hole. C’mon, we can all play nice here.

    Ladies, let’s take a break from the blog telenovela. It’s not a good one.

    Remember how I gave Josh a hard time about his LOLs as punctuation signs a while ago? I noticed how winky smileys are used as a “this will tone down my jab” effect. Not cool, I say. I smiley wink won’t make the words less harsh.

  344. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB

    “Like they say, you can attract more flies with honey that with vinegar.”

    “They” are really out of their minds. Who really is interested in catching flies? And if you are indeed interested in catching flies then I would recommend that sticky tape you can buy at Home Depot real cheap.

    Leave honey alone for human consumption. A lot of bees work really hard to lose it on damn flies, OK? 😉

  345. Lainey says:

    Let’s all sit back and watch the Mob mentality of the Granny Mafia unfold.

    *Grabs popcorn*

  346. SouthernSB says:

    @KMS-I’d love to, but be prepared for me to show up with my dentures in tow while I’m wearing my shorts shorts and a halter holding up my saggy boobs.

  347. Lainey says:

    @SoutgernSB
    Yup! I’m mean because I keep to myself yet defend myself when attacked and ganged up on. Sounds about right.

    I don’t say rude things and try to pass them off as jokes by following them up with “LOL”s and “hehe”s.. I say what I MEAN and I MEAN what I say.

    And trust me I’m not hard up for old bitties as friends.

  348. Kms2014 says:

    @southern…Lainey said Elaine and I are in the granny mafia…would you like to join us? We get a discount at the old country buffet every Wednesday, if you mention you are part of the GM(granny mafia) (:

  349. Lainey says:

    Oooo there goes another one of their kind coming to the rescue. *cues superhero music*

  350. SouthernSB says:

    I really wish everyone would just stop going on about middle age, it’s just a societal concept to divide younger people from people who are not that much older. Heck I’m 50 and not only am I’m an active SB but I don’t have a problem with men who are both older and younger than I am checking me out. I mean, really is this worth starting a blog war over? Lainey being confrontational is not going to make you a lot of friends either on this blog or in RL. I understand that you think you are direct in your approach to other people but sometimes it can come off as mean and bitter. Like they say, you can attract more flies with honey that with vinegar. Perhaps you should read what you are writing out loud before you post, then you can actually hear how what you are typing is coming across. Remember there is not sarcasm font on the internet.

  351. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey: I agree with Southern SB. That’s a serious abomination indeed!

  352. Josh says:

    Elaine says:

    “And yes, this “holy youth” is more an US idee fixe as it is in other parts of the world!
    Probably has to do with Hollywood… dunno..”

    Incorrect. In some patriarchal parts of the world a girl at 25 is pretty much done, finished as a mating prospect as first wife. Reason? Those people are serious about keeping their birth rate to way beyond 2.1.

    She will then have to settle for older men who are looking to get remarried, or to get a second wife (if that is allowed in that country.)

    Romance, get married, divorce, repeat…all throughout their pre-menopausal lives and even beyond is largely a western (Common Law) phenomenon where women are not considered a “property” of one man or the other.

  353. SouthernSB says:

    @Dorky-You are so going to hell for that one, LOL!!

  354. Kms2014 says:

    Hehe, I have seen that before, DG!

  355. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    “Shhht Josh, don’t say that, or someone will call you an “idiot” for it! ;-)”

    I have been called an idiot for lot less sexy reasons. 😉

  356. Josh says:

    Far from it sweetheart. You’re very very naughty and I am sure very very sexy in bed. 😉

  357. Kms2014 says:

    Hmm, what is good passive aggressive response to that….’whatever!’, hehehe! 😉

  358. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    “If Kms2014 is “middle aged” then I want to date middle aged women in my neck of the woods.
    Both Kms2014 and Elaine are gorgeous”

    Shhht Josh, don’t say that, or someone will call you an “idiot” for it! 😉

  359. Lainey says:

    We’re not arguing. You’re idiotically fighting someone else’s battle. While I’m sitting back amused dissecting your points with surgical precision. But call it what you will.

  360. Kms2014 says:

    @Josh, do you think I am passive aggressive? I am aggressively passive during sex, if that counts?

  361. Kms2014 says:

    I meant, if we keep arguing the boys will like it too much…they love a good cat fight…raawwhhhrrr! 😉

  362. Kms2014 says:

    Hehe, Lainey if we keep arguing, then the nosy will like it too much…they love cat fights…I never said I was witty! Haha, my humour is not that funny but LOVE dry humour and clever wit. You should try it sometime 😉

  363. Lainey says:

    @Josh I believe it. My mom is “middle aged” and shes a knock out

  364. Lainey says:

    @Josh has DRY Humour. What you and @Elaine possess is passive aggression. Your passive nature has not yet allowed you to be aggressive enough to admit it.

    But like I said I understand the granny mafia must stick together.

    P.S. again I must point out that I’m “confrontational” but you just very clearly stated that you confronted me because I had previous disagreements with your “buddies”.. How old are you again? Online cliques? Really? LMAO

  365. Josh says:

    If Kms2014 is “middle aged” then I want to date middle aged women in my neck of the woods. 😉

    Both Kms2014 and Elaine are gorgeous.

  366. Kms2014 says:

    My blog buddies…that sounded lame, my apologies, ehehe! ;-p

  367. Lainey says:

    My blood pressure is fine. I can speak with assertion and slay moot points with a smile on my face. Thanks for you concern.

  368. Kms2014 says:

    And, I was avoiding addressing you, but you have attacked Elaine and ygbkm now, who are my blog buddies, and have been very confrontational in doing so. You consider indirect or dry humour passive aggressive? ..well, then, do not ever move to UK, or you will be fighting with someone every five minutes, hehe! So what if Elaine teased you in an indirect way? Sometimes, that is called for and that sort of humour is funnier than directly attacking someone directly, which you seem to think deserves to be worn like some badge of honor? Congratulations on your direct and over the top, exaggerating confrontational blog ways, Lainey (:

  369. Kms2014 says:

    Lainey…if you keep getting so upset, then by the time you are my age, then you will have high blood pressure 😉

  370. Lainey says:

    @KMS PLENTY of people have disagreed with me on this blog and I’ve only mentioned insecurity TWICE.

    ONCE AGAIN you are taking my words out of context.

    You two were taking offense to being called middle aged. I feel if you can’t accept your reality you’re insecure. But feel free to skew my words again to better fit your moot point.

  371. Lainey says:

    You guys are addressing me passive aggressively. “@Lainey I don’t do cat fights. .. but..”

    But when I reply directly I’m confrontational?

    Look sweetheart I don’t “sugar”coat things, find a daddy if that’s what you seek.

  372. Kms2014 says:

    “Minnie Bright says:
    October 13, 2014 at 2:26 pm
    @kms2014

    Most of my views are around age 26 to 48. There are some random 50 and 60 but mostly 20s/30s/40s.”

    Yes, that has been my experience….what part of UK are you in, by the way? I used to live in Bucks (: Really miss it there….

  373. Kms2014 says:

    @Lainey..Not really, or I wouldn’t state my age…this is an anonymous blog, so no reason to even tell anyone, yes? It is to encourage others….and, trust me, have been insulted a lot on this blog, due to my age. It’s like some men hate that older SBs are successful? Lainey, why do you keep accusing everyone of being insecure that disagrees with you? Can’t we all just get along like on Sesame Street? There is much wisdom from that show….by they way, I always wondered if Burt and Ernie were gay?
    Why are you so confrontational, btw?

    @Josh, if a debate doesn’t include the child rape of my son, then reckon I consider it very civilized now? Isn’t that crazy, heheh! 😉

  374. Lainey says:

    @KMS I wouldn’t “be wise to” anything. The only time I have spoken negatively to grandmother dear is when she attacked me on two separate occasions, UNPROVOKED. So to that I say AT BOTH OF YOUR AGES you’d think you’d be more mature than to behave like catty highschool girls. But I guess the granny mafia must stick together and defend their clique.

    Now THAT was attacking. Maybe “you’d be wise” to learn the difference. 😉

  375. Minnie Bright says:

    @kms2014

    Most of my views are around age 26 to 48. There are some random 50 and 60 but mostly 20s/30s/40s.

  376. Lainey says:

    Lmao @GTT did NOT insult anyone. They were simply saying, in so many words, accept your reality.

  377. Lainey says:

    @KMS it was not rude snide or smart assed. It was a genuine question after I stated I was new to the site and didn’t realize until I got on the blog that there were so many older SBs. So I asked a question and asked it VERY politely as to what attracted you guys to the lifestyle and was sure to say that there was no shade that I genuinely curious. And I got great answers.

    The fact that you’re taking what was said out of context honestly just shows that any time age is mentioned that you take it with a negative connotation. AGAIN I will say that it is a sign of subconscious insecurity.

  378. Josh says:

    “we are all adults here and can debate in a civilized manner, yes?”

    Are you sure about that? Hahahaha!

  379. Kms2014 says:

    I meant an SB close to their age, or a man who is older or looking young. My past SDs are not on geritol even though they might gift me a bottle of it, ahahaha! ;-p

  380. Kms2014 says:

    Well, technically, I am Middle Ages, but ehhh…don’t really care, since most past SDs don’t seem to have a problem with it. US is very youth driven, but there are men, on SA, who have no problem with an SD close to their age, or even a bit younger, sometimes….it is not that rare because I am not that attractive. So, @Minnie…we are about the same age, but if you look at some of the SDs profiles, some have actually said they think women get better with age or hint at that, so I will message that type. Is funny because I rarely get views from SDs over 50 or 55…

    Gtt, with all due respect what you seek is NOT what my past SD’s seek. You are looking for something that will never be filled…and your insecurities are evident by insulting, Elaine’s age…Why can’t we all be happy that people seem to be able to find what they want? Live and let live.

    Actually, Lainey, I am not into cat fighting and try to be kind to most SBs on here, as we have enough rude men on this blog to not turn against one another, but if my memory serves me right, you are the one who made a smart assed comment about, ‘why would an over 30 be on SA?’. Well, there are several 30 something’s on here, so the reasons are the same as most 20 something’s, as Elaine said. Actually, Elaine is very helpful to new SBs and know that many of her arrangements/past arrangement amounts would make the hottest 20 something green with envy…she certainly has better luck than I do! She knows what she is doing and that is why many new SBs, both young and old, have asked for her help and she gladly gives it while expecting nothing else in return. Time is very valuable, as money can be made but time is precious, so think that is kind of her to do that, considering she has a business of her own and is busy. You would be wise to attack less, and listen more. You may be aggressive and
    direct with me all you like as I am quite direct myself (: There is no need to be confrontational, however, as we are all adults here and can debate in a civilized manner, yes?

  381. Josh says:

    @gtt_envy

    Didn’t you claim to be in your thirties some time ago? 😉

  382. Lainey says:

    If you’re “middle aged” you’re MIDDLE AGED. You would only see it as negative if you’re insecure about it. That’s like me being upset because someone called me young. These terms mean the same in and outside of the sugar world. Therefore, it’s not a diss, it’s FACT!

  383. Elaine says:

    @Envy

    I AM middle aged and don’t like to be called that way, but realistic enough to accept and understand that
    The example I gave was not me though, it was beautiful 35y KMS being called middle aged!
    And that I found quite out of place!

  384. gtt_envy says:

    @Lainey, agree with you 100000%

    @Elaine, well you are middle aged!!I am middle aged too sorta sucks doesn’t it 😉

  385. Elaine says:

    @ Minnie

    I know, that is the reason why I answered on your post.
    But hey! What the hell if 80% discounts you?
    That means 20% doesn’t!
    And that is more as you can date anyway 😉
    And competitions is far less in this group. :-)

    If you are patient and willing to invest time and effort, I know you can find a great SD in London.

    I did!
    And I am 45 and not even living in London! LOL

  386. Lainey says:

    @Elaine You act as if you have to put the next person down in order to uplift others in your position. Your smug, condescending superiority complex rears its ugly head frequently and I honestly don’t think many chose to notice or speak on it until I addressed it the other day.

    @Josh’s assessment of your post if completely accurate. And although I understand what you’re trying to do/say, one loses sight of the message when its cloaked in a guise of arrogance

  387. Lainey says:

    @Elaine PLEASE STFU! Stop playing the victim. You were called “grandmother” because you initiated an unprovoked attack on another SB.

  388. Elaine says:

    I have been giving already so many free advices on blog so far.
    Maybe you are right, I should make it a franchise! haha

  389. Minnie Bright says:

    @Elaine

    I am 38. An entire section of SDs discount me because I am over 25.

  390. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    “There is something for everyone. Therefore there was no need to cut one segment down to encourage the other”

    Are you really not aware of how MY segment is ALWAYS been cut down?
    Not long ago I was called “grandmother and SBs over 25 have been called “old” and hot 35 y were called “middle aged” here.
    Not to talk about SDs with older SBs being called “Idiots”

    Right, very encouraging for newbies over 30 who are thinking about entering the sugarbowl indeed!
    And yes, this “holy youth” is more an US idee fixe as it is in other parts of the world!
    Probably has to do with Hollywood… dunno..

    So that is why I keep on blogging and encouraging all those over 30 “old” ladies!
    BTW, mine IS not even such small niche as you seem to think, if I would base it on the reactions of pot’s I get….

    And no, I have no easy to copy “franchise” concept on how to succesfully sugar.

    But what I am constantly trying to do is to motivate other SBs to differentiate and find their own niche.

    MAKE YOURSELF STAND OUT OF THE CROWD!

  391. Minnie Bright says:

    Certainly if I wanted to do domination, I would be charging him more than the 100 quid he had on him. That’s for sure.

    It is barely worth putting a dress and heels on and going out for. I an having a The Tudors marathon on Netflix.

  392. Minnie Bright says:

    @FlyR

    Yes. Something was off about him from the outset. He kept going away and then returning like he was a little *too* frustrated…. If you know what I mean. He needed something a little too much and it made it sinister.

  393. Josh says:

    @Elaine,

    There is something for everyone. Therefore there was no need to cut one segment down to encourage the other.

    You may be the one of the only ones sought for your mind more than your body and/for fun presence.

    Again, if you are finding those SD, then it is not easily replicatable recipe. So such assertions must be further qualified in the same way a franchise seller would make it “easy to follow, be your own boss” in the marketing campaigns but will make the franchisee sign reams of disclaimer documents.

  394. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    “What would they have in common to talk about with a girl 25 years
    I find a lot common with FUN people of ANY AGE.”

    True Josh, but you and I are in different segments of sugar.

    The SDs I am with are very busy men, looking for a long term mistress who understands their lifestyle and can hold challenging conversations at their level.
    They are not after my body but more after my mind.
    That is their type of fun and has nothing to do with being “old souls”.

    You expect another type of fun, with other requirements, probably less age and experience related.
    And it is good those two worlds exist next to each other.

    “You will find that you will be considered “old” by the >60 SDs and “hot” by the < 30! LOL"

    Well frankly my dear … I don't give a damn about what FB thinks…
    And you are just messing (and we both now why 😉 ) because you know damn well I am telling a truth here. And even if you didn't believe what I am saying, all fairly attractive "older" SBs can confirm this.
    And the times I was "too old" for an SD, it was an over 60! LOL

    I also have a theory :-) :

    Old SDs want "youth" to make them feel young again and try to bring back their own youth. They feel they need to hurry because time is flying by, so they very much focus.
    Young SDs want "old" because of the self confidence and lack of drama an expectations. And not to forget the (sexual) experience. They feel like they have their whole life still ahead, and don't think in age yet. They just chase what they find attractive at that moment.

  395. Josh says:

    I don’t know about bitch but I do know that you are very naughty. 😉

  396. FlyR says:

    @minnie. My guess …….he wanted cheap at your place but when you balked thought he would just get a hooker or old toy, she was. Of available , he came back to you

  397. Kms2014 says:

    I am a bitch, though….;)

  398. Josh says:

    Hahahaha!

  399. Kms2014 says:

    “Rebecca says:
    October 13, 2014 at 11:25 am
    Do any of you SBs get these type of offers?

    He asked me to wear sheer stockings for 15 minutes on Skype. I had no interest in that, but wanted to test him. I said $300. He said, “100 is more realistic , were talking you never leave your house, you put some hosiery on and tease me for 15 minutes or less.”
    I said, “$350.”

    His response, “lol okay when you become realistic, let me know, at 100 thats 400 an hour. 300 – 350 is like 1200-1400 an hour. You aren’t that hot. See 350 id pay in person to be with you every date. This could be little stop gap for you until you find the guy for u in real life.”

    I had a good chuckle at the “you aren’t that hot” line. The whole thing sounds like a huge scam. I have gotten these type of proposals before, but for like $50 upfront and then $50 after. No, thanks!!”

    What an idiot….just laugh and tell him you have added asshole tax and now it is $500 per 15 minute, hehe! That guy could go to webcam girls without all the hassle….why do you think they want to scam women into this, on SA? They are just the scum that bottom feeders will not even feed off of. If you aren’t in the mood to mess with him, then block and delete. Whenever ‘men’ speak to me disrespectfully,(or neg you to try to get you to feel bad about yourself, like this fill was trying to do) or they ask for inappropriate pictures in a rude way, before I have even met them, then I send them a picture of my doggie’s rear end. That usually makes them go away 😉

  400. Minnie Bright says:

    What is hot for one guy isn’t necessarily the same for the next. I think there are commonalities between most men in the things they like but I don’t think you can grade how much a woman is “worth” based on one guys arbitrary notion of hotness.

    And I have been told I am hot.

  401. Lainey says:

    A little boy killed a butterfly and daddy says, “No butter for 2 weeks.” The little boy killed a honeybee and daddy says, “No honey for 2 weeks.” Mommy killed a cockroach, the little boy looked at his dad and asked, “Are you going to tell her or shall I?”

    Hehe 😉

  402. Josh says:

    Re: “you aren’t that hot”

    This phrase needs to be used more often but most men are chicken and don’t say that to women’s face. I certainly am one of them.

    The arrangement should start with something like, “even though you are not that hot but I would like to offer….” 😉

    Men’s lack of “communication” (which women pretend to love) in this area is sending a wrong message. Not so hot women are expecting hot women’s allowance and not getting anything as a result.

    Now if you tried something like this with Giselle B look alike to negotiate with her she will tell you to go fuck yourself.

  403. Lainey says:

    Oh WOW @Minnie! Yea, he needs to hit up a pro Domme and stop wasting ladies time on SA

  404. Lainey says:

    Lol @LegalBarbie28 RIGHT! My high school obsession was Julian McMahon. Dr. Christian Troy from Nip/Tuck and RDJ (Robert Downy Junior). That was around the time that I realized I liked my men with a little less emotion and a much higher sex drive. LMAO

  405. Minnie Bright says:

    I blocked my third SD today. He has done nothing but mess me around from the outset. In my town tonight, he wanted to meet me in my own home despite staying in a hotel locally for work. I refused. Then because I refused he said he couldn’t meet me. Around an hour ago he messages me saying he wants to meet. He said he just a wa*k over my profile pictures and he wants to be dominated. His attitude stunk, was really disrespectful, sounded downright dangerous and he turned nasty when I told him my concerns/issues with him.

    Not only that but given how overtly sexual he was trying to get on the first meet, he said he had £100 on him.

    Now not being funny, I work but I am not that kind of working girl.

    I told him his attitude stunk and no woman would go anywhere with him.

    The sense of entitlement was shocking!

  406. @Lainey
    I’m really starting to think that we are twins! Lol
    Except I’m a tad bit older lol I’ve always preferred older men. Richard Gere is hot business! Lol

  407. Rebecca says:

    Do any of you SBs get these type of offers?

    He asked me to wear sheer stockings for 15 minutes on Skype. I had no interest in that, but wanted to test him. I said $300. He said, “100 is more realistic , were talking you never leave your house, you put some hosiery on and tease me for 15 minutes or less.”
    I said, “$350.”

    His response, “lol okay when you become realistic, let me know, at 100 thats 400 an hour. 300 – 350 is like 1200-1400 an hour. You aren’t that hot. See 350 id pay in person to be with you every date. This could be little stop gap for you until you find the guy for u in real life.”

    I had a good chuckle at the “you aren’t that hot” line. The whole thing sounds like a huge scam. I have gotten these type of proposals before, but for like $50 upfront and then $50 after. No, thanks!!

  408. Hawila says:

    What does it mean when you’re favorited by an SD?

  409. Lainey says:

    @Rebecca that’s funny. Yea they do act as if the sugar rules don’t apply to them. But I have to be physically attracted to my SD because I always tell men “I love me enough for the both of us”. I don’t need affirmations just money and good sex. If I’m not wet and haven’t thought about fucking him at least 10 times during dinner and only hearing half of what he’s saying because he’s being drowned out by my mental moans than he is NOT the SD for me. Granted my attraction margin is rather large (35-60 yrs of age). I’m 25 but since I was a little girl there has been something about salt and pepper hair that drove me CRAZY. While my GFs had posters of JTT and the Keegan twins I had Richard Gere on my ceiling. . Oooo good ole Richie!

  410. Lainey says:

    He’s saying simple things like “I care for you” but his line of questioning and actions say “Im falling for you”..

    I don’t like ANY FORM of emotion thrown in my direction. For me its easier to play along and give affection than to receive it because to be receptive to it you have to genuinely want it and I don’t want/need it.

  411. Rebecca says:

    I have been talking with this young-ish attractive business man. He is 47. I asked him how he felt about allowance and he said he only met one person off the site in the past and never provided an allowance (He has been on the site for over a year…). *Sigh* I think these guys are better suited for seekingmillionaire. I should direct him to that site instead. That is why I don’t mess with attractive SDs. I like mine wrinkly, but they can be the most caring. I can look past the wrinkles and gut.

  412. FlyR says:

    Among the gaffs – British museums are largely filled with authentic stuff from Admiral Nelson’s bones and uniforms to the ingenuity which gave rise to GMT (not to be confused with achievement envy hatched UTC) to the wonderful Spitifires and Hawkers at Duxford .

  413. SexyRockstar says:

    TEST

  414. FlyR says:

    Care for you comes in many flavors from madly in love to care for a good friend.

    If I were advising a sister on sugar it would be to look for an SD who will have a genuine care for you and that you benefit and not be harmed by the sugar relationship.

    Since sugar is the glue which holds people who would not otherwise be in a relationship together it’s a pretty good bet that love is not going to be reciprocal and that the end will not be pretty.

  415. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    “You will find that you will be considered “old” by the >60 SDs and “hot” by the < 30! LOL"

    I am sure, and FB may have something to say about this. 😉

    "I am quite sure none of my SDs would ever fancy a <30 SB."

    Nothing wrong with that. I think it is the "problem" of those you are picking.

    "They are very succesfull businessmen that not want to be seen around with much younger girls because it would make them feel akward, and they search more for a relationship based upon a mental "click" then a perfect young body."

    I guess they are just too old souls (regardless of their own physical age) to look for mental "click".

    "What would they have in common to talk about with a girl 25 years their minor?"

    I consider this reverse discrimination which is very prevalent against the young folks. I bet you did not see it that way or you might not have said it. I find a lot common with FUN people of ANY AGE.

    "And of my own experience, London is full of great SDs, looking for SBs like you!
    There is not such fascination for young, blond and skinny prototype cheerleader arm candy as there seem to be in the US…"

    I guess London may be a barbedwireless concentration camp of old souls as you described above. Could that be the reason I don't like London for the most part, except for the museums full of stolen goods, of course. 😉

  416. Lainey says:

    @SBs how do you handle it when your SD starts talking about emotions? Nothing too serious just saying things like “I just want to let you know I care about you” type stuff.

  417. NC Gent says:

    Guys that ask for nude photos right away and-or get mad when you deny an unreasonable request, are almost always fakes.

  418. Rebecca says:

    SexyRockstar, Can you tell us the profile number so us SBs can ignore him if he messages?

  419. Rebecca says:

    SexyRockstar, that happened to me also. He was worth a lot of money (listed on his profile anyway), but I later believed he was a fake. He was just collecting nude photos of girls. Be glad he showed his true colors early on.

  420. FlyR says:

    @sexyrockstar- Perhaps some of the SB’s will offer clues that the relationship is not going to work.

  421. SexyRockstar says:

    @YouGottaBeMyNewBestFriend

    Right before I got off this site, I was seeing someone for just a few months. He got really mad at me when he called me out of the blue, asked to get together, and I told him I was with my brother and was busy. I’ve talked about my brother a million times to him ((we are really close, hang out twice a week)) and I told him I would be free in a few hours. He seriously disliked I had a personal life. He started crying and pulled the whole “everything i’ve done for you” BS. I explained that if its that much of an issue, I would be happy to pay him everything he’s ever given to me, then called me an ‘effn brat’ and how dare I not be there for him. Some “men” are really that sad and lonely.

    Sad thing, my brother overhead this fight, asked if I was fighting with my most recent ex, and the SD heard my brother say ‘oh god, are you fighting with so-n-so’ …my SD flipped out.

  422. Elaine says:

    @ The Kidding

    Well I feared this pot to be potentially clingy and possesive too and worse; he already tended to remind me of my ex husband!
    So, even if his help would have been very welcome at that time, I just didn’t want to feel any obligations to him before having figured him out “live”.

    And for me getting money feels like an obligation, so no, thanx but no in that case.
    The appreciation he showed in return by calling me an “arrogant Queen” made clear we were not going to be a match! LOL

    Wondering in what language were those lovesongs? :-)

  423. SexyRockstar says:

    This just recently happened to me.

    I was exchanging messages with this POT, exchanged phone numbers after 6 messages, and he asked for more full body shots. I sent him a cute picture of me in a tank top and boy shorts. He was responded with “you know what I’m talking about”. He claims that I must not be sexually experienced enough, or that I am not that much fun and I shouldn’t be calling myself a Rockstar if I cannot hang. All these other women have NO problem sending him naked pictures. I explained that if him and I clicked, I would have no problem to send him dirty pictures while he is working hard during the day, and he can take his own of me at night. He called me a diva and I should understand that if he is willing to sell out all this money for me, I should at least give him what he wants……I NEVER EVEN MET THIS GUY AND HE WANTS ME TO DO IT BEFORE WE EVEN MEET! What the fuck….

    So, why do POTs do this, and any SBs…what have you said. I blocked him from SA and he can’t text me anymore. PPbbffftttt. I just think that in my area, no one is okay with just having a simple sugar relationship. #HateChicago #BearsWinWhyCantI

  424. @Elaine

    “Instead of him being grateful for not being scammed, rinsed or finding himself in an akward situation, he called me : “A queen, feeling herself to good to want talk about money…..”

    WTF !!!???”

    I’ve only ever had a similar situation in a traditional dateship. The guy responded in a way that I respected and appreciated. He said that knows that I have an independent nature, but that I am a very lovely lady, and that I should allow myself to be appreciated and treated. This is someone Id gone on dates with though. He and I are nonsexual friends now, but he still sends me small tokens now and then.

    Most recently, though, a pot from SA who I haven’t met wanted to send me money. Says that even though he’s not able to meet until next month, he still wants to take care of me. I told him that was sweet of him to offer, and then I changed the subject.

    I had an unpleasant experience once with a guy who bought me a few things (at his insistence). He fell in love or infatuation or something, and became super clingy and jealous and annoying. When I told him that his imposition was too much, he demanded that I return the items he’d paid for, and he became kinda stalkerish. Told him I wasn’t going to return the items because they were things that I was intending to buy for myself, and he insisted on paying. Told him I would send him the money he paid, but he went back and forth between want it back, and wanting to gaze longingly into my eyes, singing love songs in a language I couldn’t understand. Ugh.

  425. Josh says:

    @Rachel

    Belly has its place in the scheme of things, during foreplay, but when the flopping boobs show is on the only things to do is to keep where the little head belongs and to squeeze the butts.

    But that’s just me. 😉

  426. Boobies-boobies-boobies-boobies floppin’ e’rywhere. Boobies-boobies-boobies-boobies floppin’ e’rywhere. Boobies-boobies-boobies-boobies floppin’ e’rywhere. Flop-floppin’ e’rywhere, flop-floppin’ e’rywhere!!!

    Teehee…

    I once contemplated getting breast implants. After very little thought, I ultimately decided…

    What good is a boob if you can’t use it as a napkin or to wipe your brow after gyrating to tasteful music…or to wipe the frost off your windows in the morning? That’s what boobs are for…as intended by mother nature. Because…well…it’s what’s on the inside that really counts.

    Speaking of the vagina…

    Yes, Sugary, the labia are mere accessories to their tunneling neighbor. Howww-ev-errr…they probably shouldn’t be floppy enough to use as a napkin, or to wipe your brow after gyrating to tasteful music…or to wipe the frost off your windows in the morning…or to polish your shoes. ‘Cause…well…that’d just be doing too much.

    That said, women should totally start using their boobs as napkins. But ONLY in the classiest of establishments. NEVER at the “two-can-dine” special at Applebee’s. ‘Cause mama di’nt raise no fool, and papa sure wouldn’t be proud!

  427. FlyR says:

    Messaging off SA – I don’t have pictures on SA so I have to go off to send. I have not found any resistance to that. I also like establishing an email connection so I do not need to signon to SA to get messages. It is easy to create and dispose of email addresses so I do not see a problem.

    I thought Elaine’s offer to Minnie was entirely appropriate and one of the functions of the blog is to facilitate people exchanging information off the blog. I don’t take seriously the benefit of SA protecting us from “rinsers” , if you are having repeated problems with them the key weakness is probably revealed in the shaving mirror. Have I done stupid things – yes … but the important thing is that I knew the odds were against me but decided to take the risk. I’ve taken similar risks with great rewards so it’s an informed choice rather than a fantasy.

    Elaine’s note to minnie had a lot of great information. Her market intel was spot on.

  428. Josh says:

    Sweetheart, whether I ask you here or thru email, I need a larger keyboard. 😉

  429. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    “I am sorry to say I don’t really understand what you just wrote. But there is no need to expand upon it. You will just need to provide unnecessary details for it to be more comprehensible.”

    What didn’t you understand?
    I was telling this true story as a counterweight to yours.

    In my case “stopping” someone from offering me money and being called “arrogant”.
    And in your SBs case “asking” someone for money and being called a “rinser”.

    Just wondering now what is the right thing to do then? :-)

    “I disagree with various aspects of your posts. There was no need to criticize everyone else to make a point that an “older” SB can be successful if she does things right.”

    Huh?
    Thought I was trying to encourage Minnie.
    Making clear there is space for “older” SBs too.
    Because she didn’t really seems to be sure about that when she mentioned her age.

    Again; nothing more as a counterweight, we know already the preferences of a large majority of SDs, this gets discussed all the time.
    It is good to know there is also other niches, and one of them is this of men that are not only looking for youth.

    And since Minnie is new and probably has not read all old blogs, I just repeated what was said earlier, by me and by other “older” and “US” SBs.

    If you need more explanation, let’s do that by mail to not bore other bloggers with it. :-)

  430. gtt_envy says:

    There are many girls and “duos” out there that have no intention of meeting, are always logged into SA, and are just looking to make a few hundred bucks!! It’s working ;)for them. I’ve been scammed before, more than once!! After being scammed by one “couple” I hounded them to find out “What the hell really?”

    They are two girls that come as a “team only” that never meet, but they send pics, cam, flirt, sext, until they get guys to send them money. One named “Erica” says they make $700-$800 week. They even have guy friends talk to the guys and send them pics that are saved on there phone…pretty crazy stuff!! Use photoshop to add “names” when the guys ask for pics holding something with their name on it, so the guys (their bf’s) can send the pics and scam the desperate SD’s from their hard earned cash.

    On a brighter note the girl who I gave a option to leave last weekend and she said “NO, and kissed me” then we had fun………..well tonight is date night and it includes TOYS yummy!! She has never had a high quality vibrator so a We-Vibe was purchased ;)I can’t wait!!

    After tonight, I do believe my sugar tank is full though!! I was thinking of all the girls I’ve hung out with this year and it’s bad when you really have to think to remember them all. I only still talk to 3 of them and even that is getting old. It’s starting to be all the same again like it was a few months back. Another pretty face, couple of romps, and then I get bored. It’s so bad I have a system it’s like going down a proverbial checklist: check, check, check, bang, bang, bang, next!

    It’s a marvel I haven’t been caught with so many “escapades”, but that’s the perk of business travel. When you travel every 10-14 days and are on the road 3-4 days a month it makes it easy.

    I think it would be different if I didn’t have a LTR. Because she meets all of my emotional needs, 99% of my sexual ones, sugar is just for the thrill and not much else.

    A little 4 week break and then assess is needed I think!! Best of luck sugaring and tonight it will be “ON”!!

  431. Rachel SB says:

    Good morning sugars!

    Things that annoy me… in line with Josh’s comment. When someone wants to go off SA too soon OR… and this is HUGE for me…. People who ask for your private pictures too soon, or without even speaking with you.

    Come on! Really?! You think I’m going to share with you my “private pictures” when you don’t have the courtesy to say “hi”? grrrrrrrrrrrrr
    Back to my lovely self.

    Oh and on the boob thing… I think guys like to watch them bounce. I’m on the small side compared to my SB friends on here (I’m only a DD). But, I have noticed when on top… they NEVER look at my face, they’re staring at my bouncing (.)(.) or petting my stomach while staring at that. Which leads me to this…

    Guys… why do you pet our stomachs while on top?

  432. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    I disagree with various aspects of your posts. There was no need to criticize everyone else to make a point that an “older” SB can be successful if she does things right.

    I am not on a big keyboard to write more though. So I will leave it at that. 😉

  433. Josh says:

    @Elaine,

    I am sorry to say I don’t really understand what you just wrote. But there is no need to expand upon it. You will just need to provide unnecessary details for it to be more comprehensible.

    The very first sign of concern for me is when a woman wants to go off SA messaging too quick. Honest men and women would spend at least some amount of time of SA messaging before feeling comfortable.

    Rinsers and scammers want to move off of the SA messaging to avoid ban from SA, if reported by the victims. That’s what happened with this particular rinser.

  434. Elaine says:

    @ Minnie

    If you play it right, your age can even be an advantage!

    I am older then you are and have never had any problems finding high quality long term SDs.
    And no, never from the geriatric department! 😉
    You will find that you will be considered “old” by the >60 SDs and “hot” by the < 30! LOL

    I am quite sure none of my SDs would ever fancy a <30 SB.
    They are very succesfull businessmen that not want to be seen around with much younger girls because it would make them feel akward, and they search more for a relationship based upon a mental "click" then a perfect young body.
    What would they have in common to talk about with a girl 25 years their minor?

    Another big advantage is that Johns and Splenda's are targetting young girls, so you will not get stuck by hundreds of completely useless mails to sort out.
    Better to concentrate on 10 serious ones!

    And of my own experience, London is full of great SDs, looking for SBs like you!
    There is not such fascination for young, blond and skinny prototype cheerleader arm candy as there seem to be in the US…

    You can always mail me if you need more info about Londons sugarworld.

    Lots of succes!

    "Granny" Elaine

  435. FlyR says:

    @Lainey “and found that boobs make the world go round lol. YAY for tig ole bitties!!”

    Such a wonderfully happy discussion………

  436. Elaine says:

    My weird story of the day, although it happend some months ago, but it fits in @Josh’ story about eventual rinsing..

    I was Skyping already for some time with this pot, but we found ourselves always in different countries, so we had not yet opportunity to meet in real.

    After weeks of talking of course you get a certain level of confidence and in one way or another he picked up I had a problem with my bank.
    I did NOT as such mention it!
    So then he started asking about the situation and how much I would need to resolve it etc..
    I sensed he was about to offer to help me out, and this made me feel akward because we never had met and I didn’t want to feel any obligations towards him, I was not yet sure if an arrangement with him would work out, so I changed subject by saying something like : “I don’t like to talk money, so lets talk about…..bla bla bla”

    Guess what?

    Instead of him being grateful for not being scammed, rinsed or finding himself in an akward situation, he called me : “A queen, feeling herself to good to want talk about money…..”

    WTF !!!???

    Obvious we never entered a relationship…. 😉

  437. Thanks, petite :).

    “Josh says:
    October 12, 2014 at 8:17 pm
    @yougottagyratelikehell

    I think that I am going to institute belly dancing classes as an added perk of my arrangements. If the SB is not excited about it then maybe it is not going to work out for me.”

    Dance is one of the most beautiful forms of expression and communication…even with oneself. I could really bust a move just about anywhere, to any type of music. I do realize, though, that it isn’t always appropriate, so at times I exercise restraint, and have a thoughtgasm instead. I took a belly dancing class once, but I couldn’t dance like Shakira by the third class, so I quit. You know…in applying the popular three-date rule. There was no parting gift, no lengthy explanation…as a matter of fact, I just poofed :D. Yep, I’m guilty. Clearly though, we weren’t a good match. I know a rinser when I see one. If I’m paying 12 whole U.S. dollars per lesson, I want full-throttle belly dancing, gyrating, undulating, twerk skills by the third lesson, or it’s a rinse. Think I’m dumb enough to pay the entire amount just to find out that she can’t even dance like Shakira?! No way!

  438. Josh says:

    @ys_pls_sir2

    “Perhaps she was very young and it’s a maturity thing.”

    No dear. SA age in High thirties, bachelor’s degree, claimed to have run two different business, currently in low paying service job with a large company. :(

  439. Minnie Bright says:

    I am not sure what a Full D is but I am a natural 32F.

    This does mean I am a bit out of proportion though.

  440. Lainey says:

    @Josh I LOVE MY FLOPPING BOOBS and honestly think I would not have gotten a few of the over paid/under qualified jobs I got while in college without them. I hate that people think big boobs = saggy boobs. I’m a 36H natural and breastfed my daughter til she was 3 1/2 and my boobs are still very full, hardly have a droop, beautiful areola to breast ratio and my nipples point straight forward just like the next flat chested female. I started getting boobs in second grade and went through a lot of self esteem issues until i became an adult and found that boobs make the world go round lol. YAY for tig ole bitties!!

  441. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    Grrr…how did my avatar disappear??

  442. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @FlyR, Agreed – I was just being glib. It’s unfathomable to me that someone would behave in such a way. Perhaps she was very young and it’s a maturity thing.

  443. FlyR says:

    @ys_pls they do make you look better but they make some SD s more cynical. It hurts the good SB’s more than helps as it destroys trust

  444. ys_pls_sir2 says:

    @Josh:

    “My not-that-crazy story of the day. The SB I was communicating with wanted me to pay for her hotel because she went out of state for some cockamamie reason and the salary was not coming thru till the 15th. I used SA policies as an excused and bailed out. I am not paying no random woman’s hotel charges.

    I just wonder how many women are really successful in rinsing SDs on this site for small and large amounts using guilt as a weapon. ”

    God bless those crazy bitches. They just make me look better.

  445. “I have reason to believe that you tend to date “normal” guys, and you stay away from wackos? ;)”

    Yea I guess they are pretty “normal”. Definitely don’t need anyone around that could possibly be my client one day aka whackos! Lol

  446. Josh says:

    @LegalBarbie28

    “Honestly Josh, your preference is the position that most men that I have known have taken.”

    I have reason to believe that you tend to date “normal” guys, and you stay away from wackos? 😉

  447. “detailed and anecdotal feedback on flopping boobs. ;)”

    Anytime 😉

  448. Josh says:

    @LegalBarbie28

    Thanks for the detailed and anecdotal feedback on flopping boobs. 😉

  449. “On a personal note, I love, love, love flopping boobs. ;)”

    Honestly Josh, your preference is the position that most men that I have known have taken. Now there is nothing wrong with smaller breasts. I was rocking a B cup up until I was about 19 years old. Now that I’m at a small D (yes natural) I’ve noticed in more of my intimate moments that men seem more fascinated by my breasts. After asking why there were about 3 reasons for this fascination.

    1) I’ve noticed that most of the men I’ve dated in the past just like a little bit bigger breasts than my old B cup overall.
    2.) specifically, most gave the same reason as you, they like to watch the bouncing/flopping while on top. And
    3) Bigger breasts come with a more natural sag. Not a huge “your titties are jacked up like my grandma and almost touching the floor sag” Lol. My ex used to tell me that he liked the tiny natural sag bc I looked like an actual woman vs a 10 yr old boy or the model who got a boob job with her breasts hard and perky as rocks just standing at attention! Lol I believe I saw a comment posted about an SBs breast having “no sag.” Just know that many like it, and many don’t!

  450. Josh says:

    @SDs

    For you, flopping boobs are:

    1. Turn on?
    2. Turn off?
    3. Inconsequential?

  451. Josh says:

    @Petite,

    Thanks for the offer, but each girl would be hooked up with a different instructor. 😉

  452. Josh says:

    @Lainey,

    Do you dislike it when your boobs are flopping all over the place when you are on top or in other boob flopping positions? 😉 If this is a TMI question, then please hit the ignore button.

    On a personal note, I love, love, love flopping boobs. 😉

  453. Petite says:

    @RSD
    I actually never thought about it like that, even though that makes a lot of sense… It always struck me as a low self-esteem thing to do; but that’s just my own personal stigma that I’ve attached to it. Awww, now I feel bad about all the judging….

    @yougottabekiddingme
    I always love reading your posts.

    @Josh
    My best friend is a belly dance instructor– what area are you from- I could hook you up with a deal :).

  454. Petite says:

    @DorkyGuy
    Greek Mythology was my favorite class in college. Had nothing whatsoever to do with my major/requirements, but they are SO much fun to read about.

    @Josh
    I’d also like to know the answer to that… Breast enlargement isn’t my thing. Can’t even watch porn with ’em– turns me off. I’d imagine it differs from guy to guy though. Just like with tall v short, thin v heavy, etc. But I would like to know the general consensus…

  455. Proxy 43 says:

    Momma, Momma. Proxy 63 called me a twat, Momma. :(

  456. SugarySpicey says:

    Fake boobs are ridiculous, they’re like lip rings, neck plates, and vomitoriums.

    Try explaining that to archeologists in 200 years: Women in the 22st century would undergo major surgery, suffer unsightly lollipop scars or Aureola damage, avid loss of sensation in order to inflate their breast with plastic bags of water that looked and felt fake. It makes me sad that some women are so self-loathing that they would mutilate their genitals in such an unnatural way.

    On a personal note, I love my small breasts, they’re perfect without a hint of sagging (can’t say that for a “full D”) or flopping all over the place when I’m on top, as I prefer to be.

  457. SugarySpicey says:

    I would never use “Twat” as an insult. Twat is euphemism for vagina and vagina is the source of all power, the core of life, and the most valuable commodity on the planet. I have far too much respect for the feminine to insult it in such a base way.

    I would call someone a c*nt. But, in using that word I am referring to labia majora, the flapping lips surrounding a vagina that serve no purpose except for their proximity to a vagina.

    I have no opinion on c*nts. I prefer big swinging dicks (metaphorically speaking). In reality I don’t care about size as I am also very petite.

  458. Josh says:

    @RSD

    Duh! 😉

  459. Josh says:

    @yougottagyratelikehell

    I think that I am going to institute belly dancing classes as an added perk of my arrangements. If the SB is not excited about it then maybe it is not going to work out for me.

  460. Update…

    It is absolutely possible to gyrate to tasteful music! Uh huh…I tried it! It started out as more of an undulation, actually…but worked its way up to full-on gyration of the sexiest variety without much effort. You can do it, too :D.

    Also…I’ll have y’alls know that it’s also possible to arouse oneself with oneself. Ultimate challenge is to arouse AND resist oneself all at once…hehe. I can’t resist myself…I don’t even try, actually. Yet somehow, I still win the challenge. Sweet victory :).

  461. RSD says:

    @Josh, they’re not getting boobs for us men; it’s like makeup, it’s for the girl herself and other women. Some girls would feel more attractive or confident with bigger boobs.

  462. Josh says:

    @RSD

    “they will need to wait till they’re done with me first.”

    Makes sense. If you don’t care for the “augmented” boobs then who are they getting them done for? The next SD?

  463. RSD says:

    For me, implants are a massive turn off. I prefer smaller breasts (most girls under 100 lbs have small breasts anyways, but not all). I’ve had SBs ask me for money for implants a couple of times, and my reply always has been that they will need to wait till they’re done with me first.

  464. DorkyGuy says:

    Wow, the ancient Greeks were a freaky bunch. I just read the story of how the Minotaur was conceived. That’s seriously messed up.

  465. FlyR says:

    I draw the sugar line at funds for drugs or boobs……………

    Seriously I think it is sad that there’s so much pressure. The female breast comes in many sizes all wonderful. Serious downside of enlargement is loss of sensitivity.

  466. Haha I guess my small Ds fall short of the breast demographics as well lol

  467. Josh says:

    That would be a different set of questions. 😉

    I asked about “Full D” because that size was specifically mentioned by two different women with different height, weight, age and ethnic mix choose to use “Full D” as some kind of achievement.

  468. Lainey says:

    @Josh My breast demographic feels very left out of that series of questions. Lmao

  469. Josh says:

    @SD

    I have had two pots bragging about the full D’s, one had them done recently, the other just got them done yesterday.

    Do you:

    1. Prefer small naturals over full D silicone ?
    2. Prefer full D over smaller naturals?
    3. Have no preference one way or the other?
    4. Prefer women don’t mess with their boobs?

  470. Josh says:

    Good point @flyR. I actually don’t want to share the actual reasons given. That’s TMI.

    I did have a good prospect last night. She approached me. Had great laughs. She loves my sense of humor. THAT’S a requirement. LOL!

    Divorced recently. 33 year-old. Reasonable expectations. That’s my potential AJ backup but NOT areplacement yet. 😉

  471. FlyR says:

    @Minnie Many men prefer someone who does not look out of place being with them in a social environment. There’s also generally the issue of less drama and of course awesome sex.

  472. FlyR says:

    Josh Sounds like she was out of state and her SD failed to close the deal or she spent the money on drugs.

    One way of thinking about the perpetually unlucky – who have excuses as to why they are late, did not show up (death in the family 10th one this year) , need an advance for $X and by the way they will not be able to see you tonight but next week for sure, is to ask yourself if you really want to trust your private parts to someone who is this unlucky.

  473. Josh says:
    October 12, 2014 at 3:38 pm
    @LegalBarbie28

    “But asking for a hotel fee (likely to see another SD) lol is a bit much.”

    That did not cross my mind, but who knows…

    Yea… Very possible. Who knows? Lol

  474. Josh says:

    @LegalBarbie28

    “But asking for a hotel fee (likely to see another SD) lol is a bit much.”

    That did not cross my mind, but who knows…

  475. “Aren’t you missing the joy of reading wacky female profiles? LOL”

    Haha yea I guess so. I Should get on that pronto! Lol

  476. “My not-that-crazy story of the day. The SB I was communicating with wanted me to pay for her hotel because she went out of state for some cockamamie reason and the salary was not coming thru till the 15th. I used SA policies as an excused and bailed out. I am not paying no random woman’s hotel charges.”

    Naw, that’s pretty crazy. Chicks are whack doing that crap! Yes, if I’m traveling to you I expect all of my expenses to be paid. But asking for a hotel fee (likely to see another SD) lol is a bit much. After a year and a half with a previous SD, I was in the position where I could call him and ask him for money when I truly needed it. However, I always told him I would pay him back or he could take it out of my allowance of needed. I ALWAYS tried to pay him back but he thought it was so cute, he would never take it since I never asked him for much anyways. He usually ended up giving me a little something extra that month simply bc he knew I wasn’t trying to take him on a ride. I wouldn’t dare have asked him for random money outside of my allowance when I hadn’t established a trusting arrangement with him yet.

  477. Josh says:

    @LegalBarbie28

    “No Josh I’ve never seen that. How crazy! Lol”

    Aren’t you missing the joy of reading wacky female profiles? LOL!

  478. Josh says:

    @Minnie Bright

    “I thought my age (38) may go against me but it hasn’t yet.”

    As long as you know the dynamics of the sugar space, no it does not unless you think it does. 😉

    Yes, most SDs are chasing youth. That’s a great sport. But quite a few of them, including me, are looking for fun times together. I don’t care of about age, per se, as long as the SB is fun. But I have no really done it with anyone over 43. So I would not know.

  479. No Josh I’ve never seen that. How crazy! Lol

  480. Josh says:

    My not-that-crazy story of the day. The SB I was communicating with wanted me to pay for her hotel because she went out of state for some cockamamie reason and the salary was not coming thru till the 15th. I used SA policies as an excused and bailed out. I am not paying no random woman’s hotel charges.

    I just wonder how many women are really successful in rinsing SDs on this site for small and large amounts using guilt as a weapon. :(

  481. Good for you NSD, trust me…. You can do much better 😉

  482. Josh says:

    @LegalBarbie28 and @Lainey

    I am surprised that you are not aware that many women on SA and other dating website specifically mention in their profiles, such as, “I JUST WANT A REAL GUY” (direct quote) and have tag lines such as “where have all the real men gone?” 😉

  483. NSD says:

    @Legalbarbie and RSD. Yes, I couldn’t believe what he was telling me either. He has been on SA for 2 years. So if he was with his girlfriend, who is married, for 4 years, then he has been cheating for at least half. Why even bother caring about being monogamous with the girlfriend? I wanted to tell him to give her the respect of dumping her and moving on, but the situation was too weird to continue talking. A lot of frustration, but I am done with him. Just wanted to share the crazy story.

  484. RSD says:

    @Minnie, “One guy I talked to wanted to know about my education, my job, my interests. Once he had established I had a life he seemed reassured I might make a good SB. Not sure where it will go but was an interesting experience.”

    It sounds like this SD really has thought through the issues and is asking smart questions. An SB without a life is not a good thing.

  485. RSD says:

    @NSD, sounds like it’s not going to work. For one thing, if it takes so long to meet, that’s a bad sign, and canceling a meet is another very bad sign. Second, sounds like he thinks his situation with a controlling girlfriend precludes a sugar arrangement; he shouldn’t be looking for an SB then. Third, the whole story of sharing a home with a married girlfriend and looking for an SB, while not a deal breaker in and of itself (people here have all sorts of unusual situations), when taken alongside problems 1 and 2 I mentioned, mean that he is using his romantic situation as an excuse not to make something work with you. Finally, I have a feeling he is lying about his situation, and it never works with liars except for a short and painful while. My advice: move on.

  486. “He confessed he has a girlfriend of 4 years at the moment and is unable to see me since she likes to keep tabs on him. The kicker is that the girlfriend is married to someone else, but he said he was unsure if the husband was aware of their affair.”

    @NSD

    Let me get this straight…. You have a POT SD that is canceling dates with you bc he is trying to keep his married girlfriend from finding out? So like…. He’s the one sneaking around when he’s fully aware that his ummmm “girlfriend” has someone else…. Namely a husband? Lol omg!!! That may just be the most hilarious post I’ve read today.

    Seriously, no more cancelling dates for this creep! Lol a SD who cancels dates is not a deal breaker for me bc SDs are busy as well and usually have work/family engagements that get in the way, but accordingly of you cancel more than once than you gotta stand in line (the back of it). Stop wasting your time! He’s putting a cheating married girlfriend before you. Let him take care of his business (bc he clearly is not) and if you’re still interested then give him a chance on your own time. If not, just move on. Sounds like drama already and as another SB said on an earlier post…..”Ain’t nobody got time for that” lol

  487. “One guy I talked to wanted to know about my education, my job, my interests. Once he had established I had a life he seemed reassured I might make a good SB. Not sure where it will go but was an interesting experience.”

    Good for you Minnie, sounds somewhat promising. Keep us posted!

  488. NSD says:

    I have a weird situation and would like someone’s insight. This potential SD and I have been talking for a couple months, but have never met. He helped me once with a car repair bill which was nice. We had a date planned for next week, but then he asked to push the date farther back into November. I became irritated wondering why he was messing up my plans. I canceled other SD dates to make sure I was free! He confessed he has a girlfriend of 4 years at the moment and is unable to see me since she likes to keep tabs on him. The kicker is that the girlfriend is married to someone else, but he said he was unsure if the husband was aware of their affair. I know the SD’s name and searched information in the past. The girlfriend and him own a large house together. Both are listed as owners. Don’t you think the husband would be aware that his wife owns a house with someone else? I am sure the SD is lying to me. I haven’t talked to him since.

  489. Lainey says:
    October 12, 2014 at 2:29 pm
    Lol. Do people actually say that in their profile @Josh?

    @Lainey, yea I was just thinking the same thing lol

  490. Lainey says:

    Lol. Do people actually say that in their profile @Josh?

  491. Minnie Bright says:

    @Petite I had a long talk with an SD today and another was trying a bit too hard to get me to “claim him”. What became clear to me is that a lot of the messages they get seem to fall by the wayside.

    One guy I talked to wanted to know about my education, my job, my interests. Once he had established I had a life he seemed reassured I might make a good SB. Not sure where it will go but was an interesting experience.

    I thought my age (38) may go against me but it hasn’t yet.

  492. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question:

    Women seem to be on an on-going quest for a “real” man.

    Are men on an on-going quest for a “real” woman?

  493. @Lainey

    And yes… Definitely intense! Especially when that client has already served 17 out of the 45 years! Ouch lol. This is why am thankful to be a part of the sugar world at the moment. I can’t handle anymore drama as of right now. Lol

  494. @Lainey

    “@LegalBarbie28 sheesh INTENSE! But glad to hear about the date. Even when the match doesn’t work they are always good learning experiences for what you want and don’t want.”

    Exactly! And thankfully he wasn’t a creep. I just can’t see anything between us actually lasting for any longer than a couple of dates so I would rather not get into it. Last week I had a POT actually contact me stating that he would actually be interested in dating me outside of the sugar world. Lol. I tried my best not to be rude but I was thinking to myself, I would never date you outside of this and I am not on this site looking for a relationship. Lol I’m flattered nonetheless but I’m thinking, please stick to the purposes of this site. Lol

  495. Lainey says:

    @RSD’s “mundane” comment reads just like my profile. LOVE IT! Just realized I’m on the right track. Lol

  496. Lainey says:

    @LegalBarbie28 sheesh INTENSE! But glad to hear about the date. Even when the match doesn’t work they are always good learning experiences for what you want and don’t want.

  497. Josh says:

    @RSD’s approach I like. It is based on ground realities and not wishful thinking. 😉

  498. @RSD

    “Yes, I’ve often been in situations where I go home to my wife for peace from an SB’s nagging and drama. It’s definitely not good when that happens.”

    Omg! Now that is truly sad. Shame on those SBs. Lol they may have been newbies. I remember being in an arrangement with an SD who drove me nuts because he was always talking about his marital problems. I’m thinking, I know that you may need somebody to talk to at times, but geez let it go! Isn’t the point of us meeting so that you can escape that life for a little bit. He was making me need a vacation! Lol

    “I don’t need super hot; I need someone I’m attracted to physically and mentally who allows me to escape my otherwise mundanely stressful life. I consider myself very lucky now, as my SB is both super hot and educated.”

    And THIS is probably why when you actually do enter into an SB arrangement, it is lasting and worthwhile. Good for you!

  499. Josh says:

    @RSD

    “Yes, I’ve often been in situations where I go home to my wife for peace from an SB’s nagging and drama.”

    If that happens too often then it would spell eminent death to the sugar space.

  500. RSD says:

    @Flyr, “I recall seeing somewhere a study that most men dating outside of marriage are more focused on being in a nag free environment than being with a perfect 10.”

    Yes, I’ve often been in situations where I go home to my wife for peace from an SB’s nagging and drama. It’s definitely not good when that happens. I don’t need super hot; I need someone I’m attracted to physically and mentally who allows me to escape my otherwise mundanely stressful life. I consider myself very lucky now, as my SB is both super hot and educated.

  501. RSD says:

    @Lainey, “Many of us women are actually educated, some with their own businesses even, that definitely doesn’t fit the ditzy gold digger image.”

    Absolutely true. I prefer educated SBs or those with serious educational prospects. And only a minority in my experience are gold diggers. Some SBs are truly the least greedy women I’ve met; they just want to feel taken care of and secure, not rinse a guy for as much as they can suck from him.

  502. @Lainey

    Thanks girly! I actually had a sugar date Thursday evening. Really sweet guy, but don’t there was much chemistry. Funny, I actually heard from my old SD from a few years back last week. So I agreed to meet him for dinner this upcoming week (I’ll keep you guys posted). I am definitely comfortable with him and appreciate him a lot because he mentally helped me get through law school LOL.

    I wish I could say that I been away for a few days because I was having so much fun in the sugar world.lol however, I’ve been working on a criminal appeal for a new client. Way too much pressure and work to get done trying to assist someone who was sentenced to 45 years in prison LOL

  503. Lainey says:

    @LegalBarbie28 You’ve been missed boo xo

  504. FlyR says:

    @Petite – Your weight or full pic either one tells the same story.

    As others have noted in remarkable agreement smiles count for everything. I recall seeing somewhere a study that most men dating outside of marriage are more focused on being in a nag free environment than being with a perfect 10.

  505. “and don’t anyone tell me that I am bickering with anyone”

    Josh…. You’re bickering!!! Haha just kidding. It was the last post I just saw so I had to say something 😉

    Anywhoo, I’ve been gone for like two days and it seems like a lot of different convos are taking place. Lol
    Who hoo #Lainey
    Lol

  506. Proxy 201 says:

    Where are you Momma? I am scared Momma. :(

  507. Jj says:

    Joshy …. O’Joshy!!!! smh…….

  508. Josh says:

    and don’t anyone tell me that I am bickering with anyone. There was no bickering before two twatty ids started posting.

  509. Josh says:

    @TwatDorkyGuy

    If you had thought that those were two different bloggers, then rotten, herpes and AIDS infested twat on you. 😉

    Josh Guru

  510. DorkyGuy says:

    @TwatJosh- Leaving you to the blog. Do everyone a favor and bring @GoodJosh out to play. Whichever way it goes, I am sure you will have fun. Your decision only determines whether other people will have fun, which I don’t anticipate you will care much about.

    Ok, I am out, and though I know you want my company, I won’t be baited back in.

    Cheers all!

  511. Josh says:

    @TwatDorkyGuy

    If you had thought that those were two different bloggers, then twat on you. 😉

    Josh Guru

  512. DorkyGuy says:

    @TwatJosh~ I am clear on the distinction. I am referring to posts with the avatar.

  513. Josh says:

    And I forgot to end the post with…

    Josh Guru

  514. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey, again, sparing the visitors a long rant, which Josh did you find “a complete twat”?

    Let me make it very simple for your 3 year-old brain to pick:

    1. The one with avatar
    2. The one without avatar

    If you are bad at math, because two numbers are involved, you can say:

    Former or latter.

    If you understand the “Martian language”, then:

    前者还是后者

    😉

  515. Lainey says:

    Enjoy your day @DorkyGuy

  516. DorkyGuy says:

    Going back to a thoroughly lovely day :) will check back in tonight.

  517. DorkyGuy says:

    Humor me @SugarySpicey. Which one is “a complete twat”?

    Is that a serious question? I figured you were smart enough to know when your behavior is bad. Even a 3 year old knows when he’s misbehaving. Are you not smarter than a 3 year old?

    Ok, I’ll humor you. @TwatJosh is the personality that calls Flyr “grandpa” and diminishes all of his advice, even though he’s actually way more active and knowledgeable as an SD than you are. It is the personality that treats women as being fundamentally inferior to men. It is the personality that preaches about women sabotaging themselves without an ounce of reflection that men do the same damn thing. Laine made a pretty good list of the ways you were a twat to her at the end of the last blog. You should look at that list and FFS apologize for your behavior. It is the personality that calls male bloggers who actually *like* women whatever you can in order to minimize them. It is the personality that calls half the blog members “proxies” of SugarSpicy, as if they have no contribution to the blog individually.

    There are other examples, but honestly listing them is boring, and you ought to be smart enough to figure out when you are being a twat to people. If you aren’t, then you need a psych consult more than you need my feedback.

    Go ahead and reply with your typical “Ok SugarySpicy” as you always do, and demonstrate you are two dumb to understand anything I said. Wait for it… here it comes…

    Alternate Ending A), you might come back and say you are just “BSing”, which would clearly demonstrate how tonedeaf you are to how you are presenting yourself.

    Alternate Ending B), you might just come out and admit you are a troll who gets his kicks insulting people for the dopamine hit you get from a response. That would be the most honest answer.

  518. Josh says:

    Interesting development…

    I am seeing a lot of new SBs sign up or getting reactivated in my neck of the woods that filter through my criteria

    Some 30-somethings are proactively reaching out to me.

    I have had better success in SA with women who reach out to me. They typically create less drama. Muah! 😉

  519. FlyR says:

    Pumpkin pie the absolute pinnacle of great desserts………

  520. FlyR says:

    @Regan – ” Bit worried that I’m not the typical SB, not necessarily a fan of handbags and fancy restaurants, I just want to meet some interesting people and do something fun”

    Sugar is a big tent . If you put the above in your profile it will help self select prospects. I assume some sugar is an essential ingredient so you need to make that clear……

  521. Josh says:

    “@GoodJosh~ i’ve decided you either have two distinct personalities or two different people managing your account (a reverse proxy?). One is a complete twat, and the other can be reasonable and helpful to a degree.”

    Humor me @SugarySpicey. Which one is “a complete twat”?

  522. Rachel SB says:

    @Petite – Thanks :) Yes, we will make lightly salted and spiced pumpkin seeds and pumpkin pie… after carving the pumpkins. She wants 3, one for me, one for her and one to “murder”… HER WORDS, NOT MINE. I’m slightly nervous because of the evil grin she had on her face while saying it. Note to self… hide the real knives and only use the god awful kids carving knives that don’t cut for sh**

  523. Petite says:

    @Rachel
    That’s absolutely ADORABLE. Sounds like an amazing day :). Are you guys going to carve pumpkins and make pumpkin pie?

  524. Rachel SB says:

    Sunday-Funday! What’s on everyone’s agenda today?
    For me… it’s a “perfect pumpkin” hunting day… and I mean we HAVE to find the PERFECT pumpkin.. nothing less than perfect for the godchild lol. She has planned for us 3 different pumpkin patches while I sip a pumpkin coffee and she a hot apple cider. Then an antique store (I LOVE her for that) and finally an early dinner. I’ll admit, I let the little bugger stay over last night. We watched movies, ate popcorn, did our nails, I let her do my makeup… kid did a decent job, I was impressed! Who knew you could have so much fun with a 12yo!!

  525. Regan says:

    @Petite That’s great! Thanks for your advice :)

  526. Regan says:

    @RSD I’m relieved to hear that, I guess when you sign up to a website you don’t really know what to expect and whether you’re going to fit in so it’s put me at ease to know that there’s quite a heterogeneous mix of people around

    @Lainey I’m in London. I’m definitely not saying that women who are into those things are uneducated or ditzy, I mean some can be but ultimately you can like shoes and be highly intelligent. I’m just not necessarily looking for someone who expects me to own bags that cost more than my degree, haha

  527. Petite says:

    @Lainey
    Fair enough- I just take things at face value.

    @RSD
    Thanks! I’ll add my weight and a full-length photo to my profile. Thanks for the advice :).

    @Minnie
    The benefit is, most of the messages men receive don’t stand out (just as most of the messages we get from men don’t stand out)

    @Josh
    Sorry if you feel I’ve been passive aggressive towards you. Sometimes you say things I don’t agree with, and I would have thought I addressed those points directly, but maybe not. I’m not perfect- never pretended to be :).

    @Regan
    Welcome! You don’t have to be “typical” to have success. I’m not, and I’ve had very lovely arrangements that were perfect for me. Just takes patience and effort :).

  528. Lainey says:

    YAY @Minnie! Glad to hear it

  529. Lainey says:

    @Regan definitely take heed to what @RSD is saying. It’s VERY true so many SBs and SDs are far outside of the “stereotype”. Many of us women are actually educated, some with their own businesses even, that definitely doesn’t fit the ditzy gold digger image. And SDs can be any age and any income level. My last SD that was 23 (Trust fund baby, 2 yrs younger than me). I was definitely reluctant at first because I’m physically attracted to 35+ gentleman but it was GREAT!

  530. Minnie Bright says:

    Well, it seems to be going a bit better this week.

    I got to experience first hand the volume of messages men get and that free members can’t even read them. I also got to check out the SBs I my area.

    I also have some better prospects.

    All in all not too bad.

  531. Lainey says:

    @Regan to be honest I’m fairly new as well and I’ve found that I have better luck in person than on this site but that would all depend on what city you are in. You sound like a very fun girl though 😉

  532. RSD says:

    @Regan, ” I’m not the typical SB, not necessarily a fan of handbags and fancy restaurants, I just want to meet some interesting people and do something fun.”

    I had one only SB who was a fan of expensive handbags and fancy restaurants. Most are like everyone else, enjoying a nice meal at times but happy with a burger also. I want someone who can be herself, not someone trying to fit some societal fantasy impression of what an SB is like. I’m not an old white-haired guy wearing a hand-tailored suit and monogrammed starched dress shirt to my sugar dates, though that is what people think of when they think of a “sugar daddy”.

  533. RSD says:

    @Midwestsugardaddy,
    Yeah it’s time to dump her. But I think a text explaining in simple terms why is not a bad idea. Something along the lines of, “In light of your multiple recent cancellations and the fact that you’re actively on the site again, it is clear that this is not going to work.” I prefer for the SB to know exactly why things are being terminated; it creates less resentment.

  534. RSD says:

    @Petite, “I don’t have full-length photo in my profile, but I am very petite (5’, 90 lbs)”

    My advice is to say exactly that in your profile. I love petite girls, so if a profile says the girl is under 100 pounds, my interest goes up 10 fold. If the profile has a pretty face and states the weight, I’d be fine with that without a full length photo. And no, a weight of 90 pounds will not be clear from face photos. Some women have small skinny faces and a huge pear-shaped body.

    “I also rock the no-makeup look”

    I do prefer no or minimal make-up. I do recognize that make-up is a personal thing for women; some feel naked without it, so I don’t try and change that, but all things being equal little to no makeup is my preference.

  535. RSD says:

    @DorkyGuy, “Assuming that the girl is in nice shape, there is nothing that grabs me like a warm, inviting smile.”

    I’m a total sucker for a nice smile. It totally adds 2 points on a 10 point scale.

  536. Josh says:

    @Regan

    “What’s your impression been of the site so far?”

    Do you really want to know? 😉

    “This is your last chance. After this, there is no turning back. You take the blue pill — the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill — you stay in Wonderland and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.”

  537. Elaine says:

    Don’t worry @Flyr.
    As you very well know, I am no angry woman :-)

  538. Regan says:

    Hey Lainey, Josh, and FlyR!

    I’m an SB, looking for some new experiences. Bisexual, some BDSM experience, Psychology student, love going out, sports, and dogs. Bit worried that I’m not the typical SB, not necessarily a fan of handbags and fancy restaurants, I just want to meet some interesting people and do something fun. What’s your impression been of the site so far?

  539. FlyR says:

    Girls – just when good order and discipline was starting to evolve on the guy side, the girls have slithered down off their pedestals and into the arena where all we see is mud and blood……..

  540. FlyR says:

    Regan – how about a brief intro

  541. Josh says:

    Welcome to the blog @Regan

    Regan is mostly a girl’s name, so I am going to assume that you are an SB? 😉

  542. Lainey says:

    *Waves hello* welcome @Regan

  543. Regan says:

    Hey guys, I’m new here so just thought I’d say hi and get involved in the conversation :)

  544. Lainey says:

    That’s amusing because I was under the impression that a lack of “class” was evident in the unprovoked attack of others but silly me. I must have missed the etiquette class where it was taught that defending yourself was classless.

    You can’t fault me simply because you were passive aggressive and I possess a sharper tongue and wit than you.

    Don’t fret Grandmother. I’ll be sure to share my good fortune and ship you some blinged out Depends 😉

  545. Elaine says:

    @ Lainey

    Sorry, yes you are right, I should have kept my comments to myself.

    You are very well capable to show off your aggressive attitude and lack of class by yourself. You don’t need me for doing that.
    So please go ahead and post a lot!

    I will not adress anything to you anymore.
    There is no need to… 😉

    Grannny Envious Elaine

  546. Lainey says:

    @Petite there you have it. She admits that she was confronting ME. I’d now like for you to tell me again who is being “sensitive and insecure” and who is perhaps “taking things the wrong way”.

    I read right through words, straight to the emotion that evokes them. Hardly am I ever wrong when it comes to spotting cattiness. No matter how well its dressed up in ribbons and tutus.

  547. Lainey says:

    *Gasp* Well I’m sorry if my fabulous life offends you, grandmother. Perhaps if you weren’t so focused on being a condescending, envious “mother hen” and passive-aggressively ATTEMPTING to put people in their place then you would have known that day when I first entered the blog @Josh asked me a series of questions which I proceeded to answer. Instead of inquiring as to WHY I was writing paragraphs about myself, you just must’ve thought I was bragging about myself and to that I say “Don’t THINK, honey! It clearly is not one of your strong suits.”

    P.S. I clarified THAT day that I was answering questions, yet you STILL seem to be fixated on it. So its not what my refutation says about my character but what your negative infatuation with me says about yours

  548. Elaine says:

    @Lainey

    If I adressed to you, it is because you introduced yourself to this blog few days ago with a quite aggressive and braggy attitude.

    That I found irritating.
    So I confronted you with it.

    Basta.

  549. Lainey says:

    Lol. I think you may be on to something @DorkyGuy.

  550. DorkyGuy says:

    @Lainey~ You make a good point! All three of you should start by wearing only a bra in your pic. Fair is fair, right? 😀

  551. Lainey says:

    @DorkyGuy I’m only wearing a bra in my pic. I can’t remove anymore clothing. Lol

  552. Josh says:

    @Lainey,

    Agreed. I guess it has to do with people’s own self esteem.

    I BS’ed with you as well (and periodically continue to do so) but you pretty much laughed it off. 😉

  553. DorkyGuy says:

    One check-in tonight before bed…

    @midwestSD~ I wouldn’t do a parting gift. It’s not as if she’s going to give you a parting date.

    @GoodJosh~ i’ve decided you either have two distinct personalities or two different people managing your account (a reverse proxy?). One is a complete twat, and the other can be reasonable and helpful to a degree. I hope we see a lot more of the second, and the first finds a more productive pursuit.

    @Siren~ I agree with Josh. Even if it’s abrasive and offensive, the guys who list it are helping you to avoid them. Do you really want to have conversations with them?

    By the way, not being attracted to an ethnicity isn’t necessarily an indication of prejudice. I would have no problem hiring a midget or welcoming one into my family, but that doesn’t mean that I fantasize about sex with dwarves (LOTR Cosplay aside). I understand that isn’t fair to midgets, but should I pretend to be sexually attracted to them just for the sake of political correctness? For me, personally, the same applies to asian women in general, latino women with strong hispanic accents, or white women with strong eastern or southern accents… they just don’t do anything for me. I don’t think those preferences are racist.

    I guess women don’t fantasize much about asian men either. How many times have you seen an asian man in porn? Evidently women don’t want to see them naked. I wonder if that preference translates to real life? Thoughts, gals?

    @Petite~ I differ with flyr on this question… if you don’t have a full-length photo, I notice the absence and become skeptical. That’s just me though. Plus, guys are notorious for not reading profiles. A fair number are not going to notice your height, if you are trusting them to pick that up from your profile.

    @Fighting Ladies~ I have no idea who’s right or wrong, but every time one of you gets a good lick in, a new avatar should be posted with an article of clothing removed!

    Goodnight all!

  554. Lainey says:

    @Josh but that’s just it I don’t BS around with anyone yet people still feel the need to throw shade in my direction. The sun shines too brightly over here apparently. They MUST be looking out for my best interest, don’t want me sunburned an all. Yea that MUST be it! (cues eye roll at the passive aggression)

  555. Josh says:

    In all fairness I BS’ed around with Petite earlier, but you did not.

  556. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    WOW! I would like to join your tutelage for clarity of thought and writing.

    Petite has demonstrated passive aggression towards me as well but I was not sure how to respond, if at all.

    But you nailed it girl. 😉

  557. Lainey says:

    If you dont want a debate don’t address me and tell me how I should “try” to interpret things that were said about ME. You can interpret them however you like they weren’t said to YOU.

    The problem with people on these blogs are they say something and then when confronted about it retreat with their hand up like “no harm, no foul”.. I say just keep your opinions about me to yourself and don’t address me blantantly or indirectly because I will ALWAYS reply DIRECTLY.

    You enjoy your night as well :)

  558. Petite says:

    @Lainey
    Yeaaaaaah, not really interested in arguing with someone I don’t know on an internet blog. Just trying to say that maybe you might want to look at things from a different perspective. If you don’t, that’s your prerogative. But I’ve found that not assuming the worst of people/situations has tremendously affected my quality of life/happiness. That’s all.

    Anywho– Hope everyone is having a fantastic night :) I’m gonna take a bubble bath. Whee!

  559. Lainey says:

    @Siren I definitely feel you. My bestie is having this issue. I introduced her to the Sugar world a month ago and she’s very offended by this. I am too. However, I am mixed Sicilian/Calabrian and Middle Eastern/AA but because I identify myself as AA I refuse to entertain any man who specifies that he doesn’t like a quarter of who I am.

  560. Lainey says:

    Wow @MidWestSugarDaddy sounds like she is on the hunt again. Too bad she didn’t have the decency to speak with you about it prior. Yea your finale talk with her should be seen as a courtesy that she did not award you, keep it brief.

  561. Lainey says:

    @Petite yes because someone mentioning ME makes ME the aggressor. . Yea ok. Sounds about right

  562. Josh says:

    @Siren

    Those who write no AA women are really saving you time. Those who don’t write and ignore you are wastng your time and effort.

    Like anything in life, make the best of what you got. You need to present yourself as loads of fun for those who are interested in an AA women like yourself, or are color agnostic.

    Best of success!

  563. Petite says:

    @Flyr
    Thanks– good to know

    @Midwestsugardaddy
    It looks like she’s looking for someone else as well.
    Seems like you’ve made up your mind and don’t really need advice

  564. Midwestsugardaddy says:

    I am looking for advice. It is time to end my sugar arrangement. A few missed dates popped up recently and her profile is up and running again in the past 2 weeks. My intuition was dead on with this one.

    I do not feel that I owe her anything other than a brief communication ending it. I am not even going to give a specific reason. Also, she is not getting anything as a parting gift.

    Word to the sugar babies, if you skip dates, act evasive, and activate your profile again, don’t be surprised if you get dumped abruptly. I am willing it listen to other opinions.

  565. Josh says:

    “Sorry Josh, haven’t had time to engage you today…”

    How was you able to resist SugarySpicey? 😉

  566. FlyR says:

    If petite is in your profile that should do it . Have not seen profile photo but probably yes

  567. Petite says:

    @FlyR-
    I don’t post that on my profile, but it should be clear from the face photos, yeah?

  568. FlyR says:

    @ Petite – 90 pounds says most everything that the sd needs to know.

  569. FlyR says:

    @Siren – If you went back through blog history you would find that your assertions are not uncommon. Yet you would also find a number of very successful SB of color, those who were here generally moved away as they had full lives of entrepreneurial activities plus sugar . It is harder for an AA SB , probably .

  570. Petite says:

    @Lainey
    I was here for both conversations between you and Elaine. Honestly? I don’t understand how she is rubbing you the wrong way. She seems to be coming from a place of open conversation—not passive aggression as you mention. Maybe you’re projecting a little too much sensitivity/insecurity on what she’s saying? It doesn’t seem like we’re reading the same thing… if anything, you seem to be the aggressor in these conversations. But meh, what do I know.

    @RSD, DorkyGuy, other SDs who want to weigh in…
    I don’t have full-length photo in my profile, but I am very petite (5’, 90 lbs)—Is this not evident in face photos at all? I usually send a full-body shot (clothed) after communicating for a bit—Am I cutting myself off to a lot of potential SDs by doing this?

    @SugarySpicey
    LOL- your meta comment was gold. And accurate.

    @SexyRockstar
    I also rock the no-makeup look. (though I have a no-duckface policy as well). I say do whatever accents you. I look very young and makeup only makes me look like I’m a little kid trying to look older. I look better without it so I don’t spend the time/money. If you’re like that too, I don’t see why it matters.

    @DorkyGuy
    INCONCEIVABLE!!! I need that event in my life right NOW. I am seriously considering venturing out of state….

    @Rebecca
    That is a bizarre story. And yeah, wow, interesting he told you that off the bat. But hey! He did all the work of screening for you! 😛

  571. Siren says:

    Completely off topic, but…

    I notice a lot of white SDs, especially the ones on this site in particular, are quick to say, “No African American women.” That’s fine, but where are the ones who are looking for one? I don’t find it fair that the stereotypes in popular media today are damaging my chances so much to the point where it makes it harder for me to dip into the sugarbowl.

    It also doesn’t help that I’m really attracted to white men as well. Any advice, or suggestions?

  572. Rebecca says:

    A guy who was interviewed for the CNN episode concerning SA messaged me. I didn’t watch it until he admitted he was on the episode. He was the one who bailed on a date with a girl from SA and it was later found out that he was charged with writing bad checks. It confuses me why he would ever tell anyone else on SA that he was on that episode since they showed him in a bad light. Moved on..

  573. DorkyGuy says:

    Duck-face is also a turn-off for me; I just don’t get it. My female employees assure me it’s the latest trend; perhaps I’m old-fashioned.

    @RSD~ I knowwww… Duck-face is… weird.

    Assuming that the girl is in nice shape, there is nothing that grabs me like a warm, inviting smile. A warm smile will pull me in faster than an explicit boob shot any day. A warm smile with cleavage from a girl who smells nice is playing totally unfair.

  574. RSD says:

    @SugarySpicey and Elaine, a blurred face or faceless shot is fine, as long as there is a face pic among the private photos or the SB emails one. In fact, a faceless or blurred-face photo is a good sign the girl is not a pro and understands discretion. But in terms of selection before a meet, I’d want to see a face photo and a full-body shot, preferably clothed, but bikini shots are fine.

    For me, lingerie shots are too overtly sexual. Yes, I know I will have sex with the SB, but I am looking for more than just a fuck-buddy. Duck-face is also a turn-off for me; I just don’t get it. My female employees assure me it’s the latest trend; perhaps I’m old-fashioned.

  575. DorkyGuy says:

    Sorry Josh, haven’t had time to engage you today… out actually having a life this weekend. I trust the blog will enjoy 100% of your undivided attention until my return, probably Monday. If there is a blog emergency, I think Kirsten is on call.

  576. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey,

    You had proudly reported that not posting on the blog was good for your health. What changed?

    1. You got tired of posting under other ids and were itching to revive the SugarySpicey id?

    2. You are at the sabotage stage of your monotonous monogamous relationship and you need to lash out against the MANkind, just because?

    3. You are at the sabotage stage of your monotonous monogamous relationship and you need to lash out against the MANkind, because your allegedly monogamous man is dipping it where you least expected?

    Keep in mind that these are just questions. Don’t be going around accusing me of accusing you of accusatory accusations. 😉

  577. Elaine says:

    @Josh

    Sugary just send me a picture that DEFENITELY proves she is in NY at this moment :-)

    For what it is worth….
    But why would you even care to know where she is?

    I know she is a very intriguing and beautiful lady, but hey!
    C’mon! She is out of your neck of the woods, and out of your league. 😉
    So be a good boy, leave her alone and let her make her interesting blog contributions!

    Aunt Elaine 😉

  578. SexyRockstar says:

    I went away from the Sugar world for a moment, tried dating…but ahhh, I miss being around a MAN.

    So, I updated pictures and such ((recently dyed my hair blonde)) but, posted normal pictures of myself. I am not even wearing make up. And I did a ‘duck face’ one. And my inbox is crazy. I actually think I am pretty….but I am a solid 7 without make-up on! Haha.

  579. Elaine says:

    I have never used a face pic here.

    Cannot afford to have my recognizable face pic linked to SA.
    And then have them travelling over the internet for the next 100 years or so!?
    As most SDs, I have to protect my privacy.

    Never had problems with it, as long as the picture is alluring and creating curiousity, it works well.
    And at the same time weeds out a lot of messages I would not want to receive anyway!

    Who needs to get hundreds of messages?
    Reading them, answering them, such a waste of time!

    I prefer 3 or 4 serious ones!

  580. SugarySpicey says:

    Just realized that was fake Josh not real Josh. Definitely glad I reported him now. Sorry for the photo I just sent you, “real” Josh, unless you ARE fake Josh, in which case this is all just too meta. “Fake” Josh is just desperate for my attention, which he is done getting, because he’s lame!

  581. Lainey says:

    Yea I don’t have face shot as main photo but as private and I’ve been called a “bot” quite often lately

  582. SugarySpicey says:

    I disagree with using a face photo. I wouldn’t put a face photo on SA, even private. I used a skewed photo of part of my face set to private (enough to show I’m pretty, not enough to be identifiable) and a bikini shot as the main photo. In a couple of weeks I had hundreds of messages. Your results may vary, but even Softi admitted that the red bikini photo was hot.

  583. RSD says:

    @DorkyGuy, “The lack of a full length picture will cause some men to think you are hiding something.”

    Yes, I’ve learned that face-only pic means the girl is fat, especially if she describes herself as “athletic”.

  584. SugarySpicey says:

    Thanks Elaine. You’ve got mail. :)

  585. RSD says:

    @NC Gent, “How do you SDs feel about lingerie shots in profiles? I usually pass those by because I think the SB is either a pro and-or not the class of person I am seeking. Just love it when the SB says how class she is, and then she has a pic in her panties with her legs spread lol”

    I agree, it is a HUGE turn off. I think SB profiles should have a face shot and a dressed full-body shot so I can tell if I will be attracted to the girl. Other than that, I am interested in knowing that I will like her as a person. I’m looking for a longer term friend and companion, not a one-night stand with a backpage skank.

  586. SugarySpicey says:

    I’ve just reported your exceptionally troubling behavior to SA Josh. Now it is up to them to stop your exceptionally creepy (and bizarre) efforts to locate me.

    Easy enough to prove where I am though – while proving how off your rocker Josh is. Elaine, I still have your email address and you’re savvy enough to view a hidden geotag in a photo. I’ll send you a pic when I go outside.

  587. Elaine says:

    @Josh says:

    “The first is Elaine, who’s been sharing her sugar philosophy, experiences and ideas for at least a few months now”

    A FEW MONTHS?! I was already here when you were still doing potty (or was it proxy?) training Joshy! 😉 LOL

    I know you will not agree on this with me, but you forget to give honors to Sugary, it was her blog and postings that helped me a lot when I was new here!

  588. SugarySpicey says:

    Nope Josh, NYC this morning, nears bouts the Rubin museum and it was 8:47. Not sure what creeper tactics you were using but I was in Chelsea, though the SA headquarters are in Vegas so when you viewed the page source info you were probably viewing that.

    Now I’m in midtown, but ladies – beware, apparently Josh thinks he has figured out some method he’s trying to use to geo locate you which I find scary (though fortunately inaccurate), and will report to SA immediately.

    Psycho!

  589. Elaine says:

    @ Lainey

    “@Elaine don’t condescend. The point of my dresses was to say that I too am like F4F I prefer dresses over anything else.”

    Ahhhh, didn’t get that, thought you were bragging….sorry, silly me!
    Hey, I like dresses too!:-)
    But since I am always travelling, I have only 10, so much easier to travel light!

    “Have only had 2 “regular” relationships in my life, all the rest were Sugar, IF YOU MUST KNOW.”
    No I don’t HAVE to know…was just wondering….

    “So unless you’ve been in the business OVER 20 years PLEASE save your elderly “expertise” and leave it to the people that have found WEALTH in the industry”

    I am having my own company in fashion business dear,….since 22 years. :-)

  590. Josh says:

    No dear you would be taller than the average height of women in either Sweden or the Netherlands, or any other country for that matter. 😉

  591. Kms2014 says:

    @Josh, I would be short, if I lived in the Netherlands or Sweden (:

  592. Kms2014 says:

    Hehe, well I do the same that others have mentioned…Am almost 5’9″ but often wear heels and am always over 6′, and where I live, men tend to be shorter? I never noticed as much until I lived in a place where tall men were everywhere…it was nice.

  593. Josh says:

    * “only”

  594. Josh says:

    Kms2014 is a shorty. She’s only 5′-9.1035″ 😉

  595. Lainey says:

    Lol @KMS sounds ideal. Are you tall also?

  596. Kms2014 says:

    @Minnie….yeah, I miss UK…men were much taller and appreciated a bum even more than States, hehe…

  597. Lainey says:

    Lol @Josh, Yea! Sounds about right 😉

  598. Josh says:

    OMG! That’s what the invented “you lucky dog” for, yes? 😉

  599. Lainey says:

    @Josh My puppy likes to take a nap in the valley of my hills Lmao

  600. Lainey says:

    @Sweetie That was after commenting politely to @Alexis twice but she was determined to rudely bash the girls pictured and their size. Point is don’t judge and you won’t be judged.

  601. Josh says:

    @Lainey,

    What’s up with that avatar? 😉

  602. Josh says:

    Sorry I had not seen your post above @sweetie.

  603. Lainey says:

    She referred to me twice:

    Blatantly:
    “It is your behaviour/attitude and how you are carrying yourself.
    It isn’nt either your amount of dresses or the price of your bag.
    But that is another discusssion (btw @Lainey, I would be far more interested to hear your amount of succesful sugar experiences?)”

    and indirectly:

    “I work in fashion since a very long time (yes ME, not my parents or family  ),”

    “I will not completely ruin some peoples day by revealing the cost price of 300 vs 3000 dollar bags…or where they get produced.

    Don’t lose your faith in fairy tales….”

    Not knowing that the 3000 bag comment came up when us ladies were discussing how easy it is to spend thousands of dollars if a SD takes you shopping and how many would rather buy you gifts than give an allowance. I was expressing how Id rather have that money to do productive things with. I can shop for myself.

  604. Josh says:

    @sweetie

    Lainey is right. Alexis started that line of controversy, and Lainey defended her gorgeousness as a tall, curvy girl, and those who are built like her.

    Have I seen your profile pictures yet Lainey? I thought I did, yes? 😉

  605. sweetie says:

    you, no you’re

  606. sweetie says:

    What I’m saying Lainey, about your post as a response to Alexis’, that it is just the same as Alexis post. She bashed the fat girls, you’re bashed the skinny ones.

  607. Lainey says:

    @Sweetie this is my SECOND run in with @Elaine. Don’t fault me for being direct. She took the passive aggressive condescending approach. I have no respect for that.

    And the twig comment was to @Alexis. Funny how I’m judged for that but she isn’t for pretty much saying anyone over a size 2 is fat.

    Yea ok, makes perfect sense.

  608. sweetie says:

    @Rachel – ” I plan to read a book NOT related to my degree and sip my tea.” Wish I were doing the same.

    @Laney – I don’t know about condescending, but you’re coming off pretty strongly yourself, Laney. The fashion expertise, the twig comments… Just saying.

  609. Lainey says:

    Lol @Josh. I always know you’re joking. You have a dry sarcastic sense of humor that I’ve seen many on this blog misinterpret but I never have. Xo

  610. Lainey says:

    Let me add this before she jumps on and feels the need to “educate” me on the brands I love so much. My mother owns a Fashion Merchandising brokerage, she IS the behind the scenes, so YES I KNOW where they come from and how much they ACTUALLY cost. That goes for shoes, clothing and accessories. My stepfather deals in import/export so I ALSO KNOW the cost of shipping for said items. Just in case another informative rant was on the way, it’s NOT needed @Elaine.

  611. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    I am glad you understand that I am just joking around with your purse.

    For whatever it is worth, I totally believe that you own a $3000 purse(s), it is (they are) beautiful, and if you remember I also wished that you may buy a $6000 one if you ever chose to do so.

    Women making money without depending on men is very sexy to me, and I have lot of respect for those women.

    A big shout out to Sara Blakely, Meg Whitman, Marissa Mayer, and all those women other women look up to in life. 😉

  612. Lainey says:

    @FlyR oh no I’m aware. All of my comments are directed to Elaine who felt the need to reference me

  613. flyR says:

    @ minnie

    Do realize that something like 70%-80% of the profiles will never have a successful relationship as an SB . Often they are written on impulse, dare or voyeuristic curiosity after a long night of tequila or the landlord’s knock on the door demanding rent and never refined.

  614. Josh says:

    I believe we have two classy ladies with great ideas to share.

    The first is Elaine, who’s been sharing her sugar philosophy, experiences and ideas for at least a few months now.

    The second is Rachel who has shared some good ideas as well. Both of them are gorgeous and can help SBs, as their time permits.

    I always read their posts and appreciate their respective approaches to men.

  615. flyR says:

    Lainey – I don’t think anyone is arguing against dressing the way you want. The jeans “suggestions” were more of saying here’s another option that may serve you well.

  616. Lainey says:

    And another thing Im not the one that continuously brings up the bag, it’s usually Josh joking around. Don’t judge me for my taste and how I choose to spend MY money and I won’t make assumptions about your life and judge you. Fair enough?

  617. Lainey says:

    @Elaine don’t condescend. The point of my dresses was to say that I too am like F4F I prefer dresses over anything else. I have only had 2 “regular” relationships in my life, all the rest were Sugar, IF YOU MUST KNOW. I’m new to the site NOT the lifestyle. Furthermore, I have been involved in fashion nearly my entire life. Though it is my family’s business I’ve been involved since my single digits. So unless you’ve been in the business OVER 20 years PLEASE save your elderly “expertise” and leave it to the people that have found WEALTH in the industry. Thanks in advance

  618. flyR says:

    There are those who know the price of everything and the value of nothing.

  619. Minnie Bright says:

    DorkyGuy actually told me to check out the competition Fit for fun. I did, too. Most are illiterate, it seems.

    Thanks kms for the input on shape.

    I don’t know about UK guys liking Kim K but they like girls to have boobs and a bum I think. They are not fond of fat girls per se. I don’t see curves and a healthy BMI as fat though, which I have. Plus regular training at the gym means I am fit.

  620. Rachel SB says:

    Good morning sugars!

    I see everyone is still bickering. It’s a rainy yucky day here in New England. I plan to read a book NOT related to my degree and sip my tea. I’ll be off and on in lurk-mode. If conversation shifts from bickering to spirited debate or something non-threatening/attacking I’ll jump back on.

  621. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey

    Are you sure that you made the post at 6:47 AM from NYC? The IP address attached to your post above is not tracing back to NYC. Are you sure that you were not somewhere between Denver and Las Vegas at around 6:47 AM Mountain Time? 😉

  622. Elaine says:

    @ Sugary

    No, not always. The good copies often come from the same factory as the real ones….

    Same with the so called “outlets”…
    Does anyone really believe fashion buyers are such idiots to order 100 times more as they project to sell?
    No,of course not! They produce all that extra stuff to provide all those “outlets” !

    And yes, as long as I can see a brand, I will be able to identify the 3000 dollar bag, but only because I know the prices of that brand, not because it is made better as the 300 dollar one…

    But hey, I am not judging anyone for fancying those bags, as long as it makes you happy, enjoy it! :-)

    Not saying I don’t fancy beautiful dresses, shoes and bags, just am not impressed by “brands” with over the top prices.

    I guess I am too long in this business already, I just know too much and it has lost the appeal it has to most women….

  623. FatB'StardSA says:

    “How does a $30,000/year millionaire differentiate a $3000 purse from a $300 purse?”

    This is easy. You just watch enough of the Kardashians on TV.

  624. SugarySpicey says:

    Rainy morning in NYC, can’t sleep for shit in new hotel rooms. Me thinks the beer a I had for breakfast wasn’t bad, so I’ll have one more for desert. It’s a Bloody Mary morning, so why am I drinking a damn sugar free vanilla latte?

    I love my job, but I’ve been on the road almost non-stop since July and I’m kind of over it!

  625. Josh says:

    *The shipping container cost maybe be the differenting factor though. 😉

  626. SugarySpicey says:

    A knock off bag can be immediately spotted by someone who has the real thing. If you’re wondering if someone’s bag is real or fake, it’s fake. Kind of like boobs.

  627. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    “I will not completely ruin some peoples day by revealing the cost price of 300 vs 3000 dollar bags…or where they get produced.”

    Both may be produced by the exact same Chinese workers at the exact same factory in China or Italy on the identical machines costing identical amounts in labor and material.

    The shipping container cost maybe the be differenting factor though. 😉

  628. Josh says:

    Good Morning real blogmates, Proxy Momma (aka $30,000/yr millionaire), newly minted numbered proxies, named proxies, posse and puppies. 😉

    That Turkish coffee was potent. Could not sleep for a long time. But I like to get up bright and early regardless.

  629. Proxy 67 says:

    Momma, Momma I need to go potty Momma

  630. Elaine says:

    So funny….

    I work in fashion since a very long time (yes ME, not my parents or family 😉 ), and I can tell when a bag is made well, or if they have used good quality leather.
    But if there is no brand indications on it, I will hardly be able to identificate a 300 from a 3000 Dollar bag.

    How come?
    Because there simply is no significant difference!

    Is there difference in quality between a 30 and 300 Dollar bag?
    Yes sure, and you can also identificate that quite easy.

    But between a 300 or 3000 dollar bag that difference is almost zero!

    Consumers are ONLY paying for the brand and image.
    And in the meanwhile your female “audience” will always wonder if you are carrying the real thing, or one of the million good copies, often made in the same factory.

    I will not completely ruin some peoples day by revealing the cost price of 300 vs 3000 dollar bags…or where they get produced.

    Don’t lose your faith in fairy tales…. 😉

  631. Josh says:

    *differentiate

  632. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question:

    How does a $30,000/yr millionaire didfferentiate a $3000 purse from a $300 purse?

    No so rhetorical answer:

    “I can tell the difference between a $300 bag and a $3,000 bag. It’s the smell of the leather and the quality of the details (zippers, inner lining, tiny studs on the bottom to protect the bag when set down, boning inside to keep the bag’s shape )

    😉

  633. DorkyGuy says:

    @Elaine- thank you for mentioning the language barrier… I will keep that in mind!

    @Josh- Just dreaming of you sweetheart, come spoon me! Big spoon or little spoon, your choice 😉

  634. Josh says:

    @Elaine. For whatever it is worth, you don’t need to provide any further explanation. I understood you the first time around. But I do understand where you come from.

  635. Elaine says:

    @ NC Gent
    “I dress casual so I love a woman who can rock jeans and a tee (or nice top). Why does that make me an “average” SD, Elaine?”

    I am not saying you are an average SD because you like to wear jeans!
    It doesn’t requird a tux.to BE classy…
    It is your behaviour/attitude and how you are carrying yourself.
    It isn’nt either your amount of dresses or the price of your bag.
    But that is another discusssion (btw @Lainey, I would be far more interested to hear your amount of succesful sugar experiences?)

    But back to NC Gent:
    What I was trying to say was that the advices were “average” (sorry, my vocabulary is limited, don’t know a better description)
    My advice to F4F was to do something more surprising, customized to the sort of SD she is looking for, because I had the impression she is not the “average” type of SB.

    You don’t stand out amidst hundreds of thousand more other hot girls if your pictures are all sort of alike to theirs, and if I check SB profiles they are all more or less the same (selfies)

    Ok if you want to attract SDs only selecting on pictures. And since that seems to be the majority, I called it “average”.
    But arrangements based upon looks alone, make you very easy replaceable.
    There will always be the temptation of even “hotter” girls.
    And competition is HUGE!

    I mean; you hope to find an SD who is going to give you an allowance worth a month’s salary?
    And you don’t treat this serious enough to take care of good pics and profile text?
    Would you apply for a job with an average, hasty written letter and a selfie in jeans in a messed up bedroom, with the legs of your boyfriend visible on the bed, knowing there is lots of others after that same job?
    And wouldn’t you actively search for jobs, instead of waiting for the jobs to search for you?
    Just saying…..;-)

    So a smart girl seeks to differtiate herself, THAT was my point.
    Explained it 4 times now, so will leave it at that now :-)
    I know I am in another niche of sugar, so maybe I just don’t make sense to most…shrug…

    Ps. For more recent bloggers, no english is not my native language and I don’t
    use it daily, so forgive me if I don’t express myself always as diplomatic as I would like to…

  636. Josh says:

    OK SugarySpicey. I can blame my intake of too much Turkish coffee. What’s keeping you up sweetheart? 😉

  637. DorkyGuy says:

    @FakeJosh

    The last time around I did not know what was going on and was caught by surprise.

    I have larned a lot about the dynamics of various characters, and I am having fun.

    I thought you were a better troll than that! A good troll learns what bait people fall for. The right bait to lure me is to cast about insults. The whole proxy thing doesn’t bother me a bit.

    Gotta pick your bait better. If you had actually larned anything about the dynamics of the characters, you would know that.

    If you are as good at being an SD as you are at being a troll, I pity your poor someday SB.

  638. Proxy 43 says:

    Momma when are you gonna teach me like like you teach the DorkyGuy SD id? I know you like him a lot because he never forgets his SD id. :(

  639. Proxy 43 says:

    “Spicey, point taken! Nothing to worry about then.”

    Momma teacheth and the proxilet learneth.

    Hahahahaha! It’s a classic!

  640. Proxy 43 says:

    Momma Momma…please don’t be upset…I forgot my SD id Momma. :(

  641. sweetie says:

    Josh, weekend has been ok so far. Working the rest of it and have a birthday to attend tomorrow. Should be fun.

    Time to call it a night, though. Sweet dreams, everyone!

  642. Josh says:

    @DorkyGuy

    “Spicey, your list of 5 criteria is a little dangerous… it’s a road map to your panties.”

    Momma proxy speaketh and the proxilet comfirmth.

    Hmmmm, I don’t think that Momma wears panties. It’s very difficult to drop proxies while panties are on. 😉

  643. Josh says:

    Went to belly dancing show earlier tonight. She was OK, but was trying her best, and that’s all I can ask for. Enjoyed the show with Turkish coffee and second-hand hookah smoke. LOL!

  644. Josh says:

    Last night I went to Pearl Jam concert. The band and the fans are totally nuts. Can talk more if anyone’s interested. 😉

  645. Petite says:

    @SS
    Ah! Jessica Rabbit. Lovely. Who Framed Roger Rabbit was such a good movie…

    @Sweetie
    Sorry :(.

  646. Josh says:

    @Sweetie

    Good to see you. I am not sure I am bickering. I am enjoying the show put on by proxies, et.al.

    Actually I don’t want anyone to intervene at this time at all. I am amused.

    The last time around I did not know what was going on and was caught by surprise.

    I have larned a lot about the dynamics of various characters, and I am having fun.

    How about you. How is the weekend so far?

  647. sweetie says:

    Man, I miss the old crowd.

  648. SugarySpicey says:

    Thanks for getting my humor petite. I’m not bad, I’m just drawn that way. 😉

  649. Petite says:

    Just got home from a lovely first date with flowers in hand. So pretty and they smell awesome :D.

    @SS
    You are HILARIOUS. I would definitely grab drinks with you if we’re ever in the same area :)

    @Sweetie
    LOL. It’s my daily dose of “reality” entertainment. Better than watching terrible tv shows.

  650. FitForFun says:

    Yay! ^_^

  651. DorkyGuy says:

    It takes a few minutes, working now!

  652. FitForFun says:

    Nope. Is there something special you have to do other than choosing an image?

  653. FitForFun says:

    Here’s hoping that the gravatar thing worked.

  654. SugarySpicey says:

    And, I can tell that Joshy needs lots of momma’s attention tonight and you know how I love to please! :)

    Friday nights are hard for the unwashed mouth breathers who don’t know how to talk to women, but I’m bringing him along one baby step at a time.

  655. SugarySpicey says:

    Hi Sweetie – not bickering, analyzing the nonsense in hopes that will compel it to self-actualize. But, I suppose introspection doesn’t come until puberty for some teenage boys so any day now!

  656. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey, dontcha know that if you don’t instantly spread wide after a trip to the big “A” you’re a sabatoging rinser? We lowely, underpaid wait staff/diseased prostitutes can only hope to one day get invited up to the big booth at somewhere as fancy as TGIF.

  657. sweetie says:

    I see everybody’s still bickering here. Howdy, y’all!

  658. Josh says:

    Proxy Momma, proxies, posse and puppies are mighty entertaining. Hahahahahaha!

  659. SugarySpicey says:

    @Lainey, I think you missed the part where I said “not exclusive or universal”. But, I only like structured bags so, correct, those statements wouldn’t apply to a slouchy boho bag.

    Funny that Josh picks on everything you say unless it’s contrary to my opinion, and then you’re his BFF. Clearly you must be his purse proxy. :)

  660. Josh says:

    @Lainey

    “I HAAAAATTTEE APPLEBEES”

    Don’t worry about Applebee’s…pretty much only Proxy Momma and proxlets mention Applebee’s here. 😉

  661. Josh says:

    @Josh says:

    “few women may be able to differentiate between a $300 and a $3000 purse but–aside from a few Roosh V disciples here–almost zero percent of men can.”

    @Proxy Momma says:

    “4. ‘Cause I can tell the difference between a $300 bag and a $3,000 bag. It’s the smell of the leather and the quality of the details (zippers, inner lining, tiny studs on the bottom to protect the bag when set down, boning inside to keep the bag’s shape ),”

    @Lainey says:
    “@SugarSpicey Id have to politely disagree with the bag criteria”

    @Josh says:

    “Hahahahaha!”

  662. Lainey says:

    @DorkyGuy if we are going the milkshake route, I prefer Friendlys

  663. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey Again not true. I’ve been raised in fashion my entire life. Your “features” only hold true to a few styles of a few brands. But I do not doubt that you can spot a quality bag.

  664. DorkyGuy says:

    Spicey, point taken! Nothing to worry about then.

  665. SugarySpicey says:

    Dorky, Josh is afraid of vaginas, he doesn’t perform oral sex. A man who can’t appreciate the finer arts of the stimulating the female flower is incapable of being REALLY good in bed. Just like a woman who doesn’t perform oral is never really going to blow your mind. It’s an indicator of sexual inhibition/shame/stunted maturation and the key to good sex is letting go of inhibitions.

  666. DorkyGuy says:

    Lainey, are you ok with Denny’s? They have hand-spun milkshakes to share. Plus, I know if I order a girl a “Grand Slam”, I am probably rounding home plate.

  667. SugarySpicey says:

    Lainey – it’s not criteria it’s fact, I CAN tell the difference, and those features (not criteria) are pretty basic, though not exclusive or universal, examples of quality construction. One of my most memorable SD experiences was with a manufacturing entrepreneur who made metal components for one of the big Italian houses. He walked me through the entire production process one night while trying to bore/impress me with his mastery of the universe.

  668. DorkyGuy says:

    Spicey, your list of 5 criteria is a little dangerous… it’s a road map to your panties.

    Right now, Josh clearly really into you, bordering on obsession. All he has to do is buy a vibrator, and he’ll be on track for 2.

  669. Lainey says:

    I HAAAAATTTEE APPLEBEES

  670. Lainey says:

    @SugarSpicey Id have to politely disagree with the bag criteria, but everything else was on point.

  671. SugarySpicey says:

    Softi what would you even do with a girl like that, after her eyes don’t widen in amazement at your 1987 Transam and letting her order anything she wants off the two for $20 menu at Applebee’s?

  672. Lainey says:

    @DorkyGuy You won’t hear any complaining out of me. Lol.

  673. SugarySpicey says:

    Softi – I think I’ve said about a dozen times that I’m not interested in allowance arrangements, nor do the TOS on the site imply that all SBs seek that and we know not all SDs offer that. Additionally, you missed the most critical piece “non-traditional” I have very unique terms and expectations of my own when it comes to “mutually beneficial”, and those are not always compatible with guys who are looking for lurv on Match.com, successful generous guys on traditional dating sites are easy to find. It ‘s keeping them at arm’s length that is complicated.

  674. FatB'StardSA says:

    @PriceySpicey

    “Being pretty, educated, fit, and super smart on SA is like shooting fish in a gold-lined barrel.”

    Can you post you friend’s profile she sounds wonderful!

    Have a nice day :-).

  675. FatB'StardSA says:

    @PriceySpicey

    I have a second chin. Does that count as a second feature?

    “Of those features, generous is the easiest to offer.”

    The fact that you are on SA looking for SD’s who give an allowance and not a dating site geared towards men who are “brilliant/accomplished, charismatic/interesting, good in bed…” tells me that finding a generous man is not easy for you IRL.

    Have a nice day :-).

  676. Josh says:

    Proxy, posse, puppy convention is going on. Richard will be revived soon.

  677. SugarySpicey says:

    Man, typo city tonight! I should tuck myself in … Maybe Richard will sext me again with dirty innuendo about what he’d like to do to me. Where for art though Richard?

  678. SugarySpicey says:

    Someone asked why women over 30 would use SA:

    1. It’s a great place to find successful, accomplished men with a high sex drive, interested in non-traditional dating relationships.

    3. Being pretty, educated, fit, and super smart on SA is like shooting fish in a gold-lined barrel. I never found the ratio’s of the SDs outnumbering the SBs and SBs having to “compete” to be true. Women on SA who are sexy, but don’t need financial support are like unicorns.

    3. ‘Cause it’s a freak show of human spectacle that is purely entertaining!

    4. ‘Cause I can tell the difference between a $300 bag and a $3,000 bag. It’s the smell of the leather and the quality of the details (zippers, inner lining, tiny studs on the bottom to protect the bag when set down, boning inside to keep the bag’s shape ),

  679. DorkyGuy says:

    @FB- the blog SBs are saying they want to organize a cruise. Think I should offer to let them all climb aboard my little dingy?

  680. SugarySpicey says:

    Dorkster – can you imagine the Petri dish of decay his space bar must be? All Dorito crumbs and sticky with crestfallen pubes shed from his hand post self amusement park spectacle?

  681. SugarySpicey says:

    Softi – I know you’re still upset I wouldn’t give you a cheap one, but since I don’t charge it’s not possible for me to discount. I told you, access to my vagina requires a man who’s at least two of the following: really into me, brilliant/accomplished, charismatic/interesting, good in bed, or generous. Of those features, generous is the easiest to offer – but shop worn Nike floor samples just doesn’t cut it for me, and what’s your second feature?

  682. DorkyGuy says:

    @FB- LOL!

    @Lainey- in heels, you’d be taller than me. So to keep things from being awkward, I would have to keep you off your feet pretty much of the time

  683. FatB'StardSA says:

    @DorkeyGuy

    “Yeah, but you are assuming dignity. Would a man with dignity spend six months on an obscure blog inflating his diminished ego by berating anyone who doesn’t acknowledge his deity”

    That was below the belt. I am pretty sure PriceySpicey is not a man.

    @SA blog posters

    It seems like the blog has reached the point where a choice must be made between PriceySpicey and Josh. We must choose the lesser of two evils.

  684. DorkyGuy says:

    I sooooo don’t want to ever see his keyboard

  685. SugarySpicey says:

    Grrr you’re

  686. SugarySpicey says:

    Well, dorkalyfagus he says he’s banging her. Unless he calls his keyboard “Angelina” it has to be his Xbox controller he is talking about banging. With that new Dominoes quick-delivery feature that’s the only way he can keep up with all the blog “socializing” his guidance counselor told him to pursue.

  687. SugarySpicey says:

    So is Dorky a proxy or a puppy? In this theory of yours. I’m trying to help you defend your ridiculous claim here, but your just not capable of that mind-blowing level of creativity are you?

  688. DorkyGuy says:

    And he’s back on the proxy thing because that’s ALL he has

  689. DorkyGuy says:

    “begged mommy for that XBox Live account you now call your Angelina SB.”

    LOL

  690. SugarySpicey says:

    Josh, still waiting on that explanation of how and why? Seeing as you think we only exist in relation to your posts, yet all posted long before you even begged mommy for that XBox Live account you now call your Angelina SB.

  691. Josh says:

    SugarySpicey

    “it just gets my writer’s brain whirring”

    Of course, the proxies are the characters.

    Then you summon the posse and the puppies for help. What’s new?

  692. DorkyGuy says:

    He could participate and gain admiration if that’s what he wanted. While he was behaving, I agreed with one post, and gave props to him for another.

    However, whenever he gets close to anyone (here or a woman), he is doomed to sabotage himself, because he doesn’t really, believe he’s worthy.

    And he rants about women sabotaging themselves… LOL. If my memory serves, my very first post to him was to point out that he sabotages himself. And I had only read one blog’s worth of his posts. It’s a little hilarious how obvious it is to everyone but him.

  693. Lainey says:

    @Josh I think I’m 5’10 1/2 but men always claim I’m taller. So you’ll see me say either lol

  694. Josh says:

    “If you treat other people disrespectfully, then you can count on me.”

    Who died and the momma had to lay a proxy posse? 😉

  695. Josh says:

    Sometimes it’s nice to see two friendly proxies BS away.

  696. SugarySpicey says:

    I think he’s just THAT lonely, but when many of us try to explain that his loneliness is completely self-created he refuses to listen and claims “women are all” as if gender presentation is a binary function with all who possess a vagina behaving in one certain way.

    Oh yeah, and apparently we all average 2.00 an hour? I think I missed that SA infographic, can you help me find it? I’m sure it’s fascinating to read about the thousands of women in the U.S. who have access to the Internet and 3rd world incomes.

  697. DorkyGuy says:

    Yeah, but you are assuming dignity. Would a man with dignity spend six months on an obscure blog inflating his diminished ego by berating anyone who doesn’t acknowledge his deity?

  698. SugarySpicey says:

    Montreal is the Paris of Canada, Toronto is the Chicago – great food, great architecture, great shopping, horrendous airport.

  699. DorkyGuy says:

    Oh, Toronto! That’s the Paris of Canada, isn’t it? (or is it Montréal?). Sounds fun!

  700. SugarySpicey says:

    Dorky, it just gets my writer’s brain whirring. I mean if we are proxies – how does it work, and what’s the motivation? Especially considering we’ve all been on the blog for years, and our only concerted opinion is disdain for the nonsense. If he really thinks we’re proxies he should explain the claim (but we know he doesn’t really think that). So, when clearly outclassed, a man with any dignity would STFU about it already and snivel back to his cellar.

  701. SugarySpicey says:

    Hey Dorkybooboo, Toronto is far more fashion fabulous than you’d guess, glad I didn’t pack the wool socks – it’s one of my new favorite cities.

    After a missed flight finally made it to New York – exhausted – any NYC sugars up for a Sunday night drink?

  702. DorkyGuy says:

    I am completely ignoring the whole proxy thing, because Josh doesn’t believe we are proxies, and I have no patience for a basement dweller’s idiocy.

  703. SugarySpicey says:

    So explain how this proxy theory you have works, please Josh.

    Considering you’ve cyber stalked me IRL and know with certainty that I’m a woman. Yet FlyR has been on the blog years longer than I. Are you saying that years ago I came onto the blog and created the male FlyR profile and started posting as a man, then years later created the Dorky persona, then years after that created an actual profile (which was read and reviewed, along with my photos) and critiqued on this here blog, and have been keeping up all three personas for that long, attending blog social functions and meeting other bloggies as Dorky and FlyR without anyone but your brilliant self catching on?

    Is that what you’re saying?

    Seems a simple enough thing to resolve through a Google throw away phone number call to either Dorky or FlyR?

    Are you game guys?

  704. Josh says:

    This one is a definite proxy. 😉

  705. DorkyGuy says:

    Did you notice today that if you behave, everybody leaves you alone? (more accurately, nobody cares about you, but that’s splitting hairs).

    It is only when you launch at somebody that others respond.

    So, let me answer that question for you. “Who is going to attack me next?” If you treat other people with respect, the probably nobody. If you treat other people disrespectfully, then you can count on me.

  706. Josh says:

    Hahahahaha!

    Didn’t have to wait that long did I?

  707. Josh says:

    The logical question is who is going to attack me next? Is it going to be a proxy, posse or a puppy? Only the shadow knows…

  708. DorkyGuy says:

    Yep, no good answers, because he doesn’t have any.

    All he has is to deflect. That’s all he’s got.

  709. Josh says:

    Whatever you say momma proxy. 😉

  710. SugarySpicey says:

    So first we have:

    Josh says:
    October 4, 2014 at 9:27 am
    Just had second SB cancel on me. Girst didn’t even have the courtesy to respond to my “one hour before the date confirmation” text.

    The second one just informed me that she could not meet for the lunch date because she had a “really late night”.

    Both of them approached me after two weeks of initial communication AND “preferred” to talk arrangement in person.”

    Then we get:

    Josh says:
    October 8, 2014 at 10:52 am
    As for as DorkyGuy’s idiotic “advice” to take whatever steps he wants me to take with his timeframe, why should I?

    If my sexual needs are handsomely met in my current situation, why should I take up a significantly more expensive and drama-ridden route of getting an SB because someone just picked up things from my posts to bash me with?

    Tell me a reason why?”

    Followed by:

    Josh says:
    October 8, 2014 at 11:49 am

    I have had several SBs on and off SA over the years.

    I have had several SBs thru SA.

    If currently I am banging a women with Angelina Jolie body. Same height, same boobs, plus 10 lbs in a non-drama, low-maintenance environment, then why on earth should I go around eagerly looking for an SB TODAY or even this week?

    So, which is it Josh? Are you

    A. Banging Angelina Jolie’s doppelgänger and getting all your sexual needs met without having to use SA, actively

    B. Getting stood up by sabatoging SBs

    C. Posting from your mom’s basement per usual, with a cold Dew clutched in your talons?

    Now there are a few logical fallacies for you.

  711. Josh says:

    Whatever you say SugarySpicey. 😉

  712. DorkyGuy says:

    AND…. There it is.

    Josh went nearly all day without insulting anyone… Fridays have a way of putting people in a good mood, so maybe we owe Friday for the brief respite.

    But now it’s Friday night, and he finds himself on an internet blog instead of out actually doing anything, and so he has to take it out on somebody.

    That’s what an active SD does on a Friday night, don’tcha know?

  713. Josh says:

    Now Petite is under emotional pressure. She must report it to her Matrix that “this girl has 500 dresses.” What will follow is that any girl with 499 dresses will be looked down upon as the one with nothing to wear. Just because Lainey claimed and Petite reported to her Matrix.

    Once a piece of “fact” reported to the Matrix it is as good as God sending his commandments on stone tablets.

    They are not all her personal dresses dear. They are dresses for sale at her family clothing outfit, which she technically owns through family connections. 😉

  714. Petite says:

    @Lainey
    Holy crap. 500 dresses? Where do you keep them all?!

  715. Eloquence says:

    @ Flyer & Elaine

    Hopefully this will do. (???)

    A classic from SB Dictionary… youtube: David Guetta “Lovers On The Sun ft. Sam Martin Vevo”

  716. Petite says:

    @NC Gent
    Thanks! 😛

  717. FitForFun says:

    @Josh

    Perhaps she falls somewhere in between? I’m exactly 5’5.5″ which is a seemingly confusing height, so I often simplify. Sometimes I round up; sometimes I round down. It all just depends on how the mood strikes me when asked. :)

  718. Josh says:

    @Lainey lost one inch in a couple of days? I had thought she was 5′-11″.

  719. DorkyGuy says:

    @F4F- something is wrong, submit a support ticket

  720. FitForFun says:

    WTF?! That’s infuriating!

  721. Lainey says:

    @F4F my updates are always done within 12-24hrs

  722. Lainey says:

    I definitely understand @F4F. I wear dresses nearly 365 days a year. I own over 500 and counting. On the rare occasion that i don’t its usually skinny jeans and cute top with blazer. I’m like 5’10 so I typically wear flats but they are high end and stylish. I have one public pic with No face but 9 private. Should I change that?

  723. FitForFun says:

    @DorkyGuy

    I’m guessing, then, that SD/SM profiles get priority, because the edits I’m talking about were made *days* ago.

  724. DorkyGuy says:

    Last update I did took nearly 20 hours. I suspect they have someone that reviews them once a day in the early morning.

  725. FitForFun says:

    Just out of curiosity, how long does it take a profile edit to update?

    I updated mine when last Josh and I spoke implementing some of his suggestions. To date, those updates are still pending which is rather frustrating given the time and consideration put into the edits.

  726. FitForFun says:

    @WCSD

    To clarify, I don’t dress up and wear heels all the time. In fact, because I work with kids, I almost never wear heels. I’m a casual frock kinda gal. Dresses just make me feel more feminine, so that’s my thing. 😉

  727. WCSD says:

    @NC Gent – I agree, I’m a jeans and t-shirt guy too (hence girl next door). I definitely don’t consider myself ‘average’ either. Really I look at it more along the lines that a SB who needs to be in a LBD and heels all the time is a pretty high maintenance person, and I’m not a high maintenance SD, so it just wouldn’t match. There are times for that type of attire/focus, but that definitely isn’t a daily thing for me. I love that I don’t need to where a suit every day, but love the opportunity to rock a tux with a hot lady…

  728. DorkyGuy says:

    @WCSD- good to see you! The “girl next door” gets me too.

    A classic from SB Dictionary…

    Classy = I have brand name stuff on. I will be classier when you buy me more brand name stuff.

    @Josh- Gotta give you props on that one. That was good!

  729. NC Gent says:

    Petite – I consider your avatar pic to be tasteful yet sexy :)

  730. NC Gent says:

    I dress casual so I love a woman who can rock jeans and a tee (or nice top). Why does that make me an “average” SD, Elaine?

  731. LegalBarbie says:

    A classic from SB Dictionary…

    Classy = I have brand name stuff on. I will be classier when you buy me more brand name stuff.

    Haha…. Now THAT’S hilarious!

  732. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    “@ Josh

    Class cannot be bought…”

    Brand names can be bought.

    Is it a sin or is it illegal to remove removable brand name tags from clothing?

  733. Elaine says:

    @ Josh

    Class cannot be bought….

  734. Petite says:

    @NC Gent
    Despite my photo on here being “risqué”, I don’t have any overtly sexually charged photos on my profile (not even private photos). It doesn’t attract the kind of person I want to be with. Even though I do love showing off in person…

  735. Josh says:

    A classic from SB Dictionary…

    Classy = I have brand name stuff on. I will be classier when you buy me more brand name stuff.

  736. Elaine says:

    @ Josh

    “Let go a pic with another guy!!
    It just never came up in my mind that an SB could be so stupid ….”
    Hahahahaha! You’d be surprised, very often. 😉

    No Josh, as I told already on blog before, when I made my profile, I first made an SD profile, to “understand” the competition.
    So, no, I am not surprised at all, only said it this way because didn’t want to sound too harsh :-)

    @WCSD says:

    @Elaine – I see it that Dorky and NC and Flyr were stating what would make her stand out for them. Really we can only give advice on what stands out for me.

    Exactly and that is why I told her to sit down and put herself in the shoes of her ideal SD to try to decide what would be the best approach!

    Furthermore, all SDs here talk about contacting pot SBs because of her pics.

    I think (even know!) the chances to find the right SD are much higher when a SB actively appoaches SDs with a profile that gives good indications for a potential interest in hers.

    I know from my fake SD profile that those SBs who are actively approaching, often don’t even read profiles and just send standard messages.

    So my personal experience with sending a nice, personal message with references to his profile and to where this matches with yours, is that chances on catching his interest this way are very high!

  737. flyR says:

    @F4F – Rethinking You probably have a closet full of casual and stylish dresses which are more you

  738. WCSD says:

    @SouthernSB – I’ve had the love bomb dropped on me before, and the adult thing to do is talk about it. ‘Hey I don’t feel the same. I deeply care about you, but I can’t say I love you’. From there the options will be to live with the one sided part of the relationship, or end it. I get why SBs don’t want to take the risk to end it (and in every instance that has happened to me, it ends), but the drama of a one-sided love is just HUGE, and completely against what most enter in the sugar life expect to see.

    Love happens. Sugar is a relationship, so you can’t fault the person who falls, BUT sticking around when it isn’t mutual is just drama filled, and frankly embarrassing to both parties.

  739. Elaine says:

    @Flyr

    “I think tasteful lingerie is appropriate if used in classy pictures”

    It can be classy yes; if done by a professional photographer, with the right light and the right setting, the right background and not to forget: the right lingerie!

    Bur since most SBs not even manage to produce a good profile picture, I think they should stay FAR away from lingeriepics!
    Especially the ones who mention in their profile to be “classy”….

    Which you should NEVER have to mention, because when you have to tell people you are, you are not! 😉

  740. WCSD says:

    @Elaine – I see it that Dorky and NC and Flyr were stating what would make her stand out for them. Really we can only give advice on what stands out for me. For me a great smile on an attractive face pulls me in to see the profile. Really that main pic is what draws a guy to take a look. Beyond that, for me it is the ‘girl next door’ look that gets me. I think I have more red flags of things not to do in a pics than what makes someone ‘stand out’.

    The red flags are: pouting/duck faces in all photos (really, I can’t get a smile??), all professional shots (just don’t believe that it is you), all pics in a group (which one are you?), the horrible clutter in the background (a little mess is ok, we aren’t all completely neat, but it shouldn’t gross me out), guys/ex’s/past SDs (obvious reasons), and the full on slutty look (I like girl next door, not hooker next door).

  741. Josh says:

    “Let go a pic with another guy!!
    It just never came up in my mind that an SB could be so stupid ….”

    Hahahahaha! You’d be surprised, very often. 😉

  742. DorkyGuy says:

    @Elaine~ ok, gotcha, makes sense! I am not familiar with your other posts. I thought you were disagreeing with NC Gent/FlyR in total, and it didn’t make sense. That’s what not having context will do, I guess!

    I still think that regardless of how “different” she wants to be, a full body picture, and something that shows off her smile should both be mandatory. The rest is largely taste.

  743. flyR says:

    “”How do you SDs feel about lingerie shots in profiles? I usually pass those by because I think the SB is either a pro and-or not the class of person I am seeking. Just love it when the SB says how class she is, and then she has a pic in her panties with her legs spread lol””

    I think tasteful lingerie is appropriate if used in classy pictures .

    One of the most effective SB pictures was a beach picture shot showing the side of the face , shoulder (skin quality) curve of the back , wonderful buns and legs. Very classy, appropriate for mom and dad, told a story of very attractive woman .

    I think the image of the super SB being 20 ish , blond, busty and perhaps a little vacuous as being what all men want is way off base. Perhaps even further off base with respect to the pool of those who are interested in a continuing relationship rather than a “conquest ” or arm candy .

  744. SouthernSB says:

    My SD told me he loved me. It wasn’t a regular “I love you.” It was the “I love you” I get just before the shoes start dropping, the drama starts, the rings come out and men start crying. I happen to be very fond of my SD and he really treats me well, but I don’t love him. Help!! I don’t know what to do.

  745. Elaine says:

    @Dorky guy

    No, I am afraid I made myself not clear.

    My point was that if she would want to attract Johns, she should do the nipple, cleverage, lingerie or spraid legs pictures.
    If she wants to attract the average SDs, she should do the jeans and t shirt, smiling face, full body, etc.etc. (But she already mentioned to never wear jeans, so why do this for a profile if it is so not you?)

    If she wants to attract another type of SD, she should do something different!
    There was nothing wrong with the given advice, but her question was how to stand out?
    Well you don’t stand out by doing the same things hundreds of thousands other SBs are already doing!

    I always hear about all those hot and young SBs, that still cannot find SDs here.
    If that indeed is a fact, then try to do something different and focus on other features maybe?

    So I gave her the advice to put herself in the shoes of her ideal SD and think about what would attract him.

    That was my point…

    Ps. And I have said several times on blog that you should NEVER use selfies with a messed up bath or bedroom at the back.
    Let go a pic with another guy!!
    It just never came up in my mind that an SB could be so stupid ….

  746. FitForFun says:

    @Elaine

    Thank you for the suggestion.

    @DorkyGuy

    I took her comment as a reply on the “jeans and a T-shirt” and similar suggestions and as a response to my own post in that regard. I think that, thus far, all of the offered opinions have merit; I simply have to apply them in such a way that does not short change me or an appropriate SD. 😀

  747. DorkyGuy says:

    @Elaine- wow… both NC Gent and FlyR gave what appeared to me to be spot on advice. It aligns very closely to what I look for.

    If the only thing of value that they said was the bathroom selfie, it is difficult for me to imagine what you feel would be an ideal profile picture. Would it be in lingerie with a cluttered background and a man in view?

  748. Elaine says:

    @ F4F

    Not to be rude, but from all advice you have got, I would only agree upon the bathroom selfies.

    I think you are a clever lady, and you are not an average SB as far as I read your comments.
    And since you don’t seem average, you should not do the pictures that attract average SDs IMHO….

    So sit down, and start thinking about what kind of SD you want to attract.
    Then put yourself in his shoes, and think about what you would want to see if you were him.
    And this is the foto you are going to (be) made and used as profile pic.
    Then 2 or 3 private pics.
    And then you start reading profiles and approach the SDs with an profile YOU find interesting!

    I have posted some weeks ago a quite long comment about how to do pictures and profiles, but don’t remember under what topic it was, sorry..

  749. Josh says:

    @NC Gent,

    Yep. They are either pros or out there somewhere that I don’t even want to bother to ask.

  750. NC Gent says:

    * how classy she is *

  751. NC Gent says:

    How do you SDs feel about lingerie shots in profiles? I usually pass those by because I think the SB is either a pro and-or not the class of person I am seeking. Just love it when the SB says how class she is, and then she has a pic in her panties with her legs spread lol

  752. gentleman soul says:

    FitForFun says:

    Any tips from the SDs on what is attractive in a picture?

    DO NOT have a guy in the picture whatever you do, even if it is your brother or father . Another girl in the photo doesn’t help either. Usually the other girl(s) are way hotter than the SB and I want to write the SB to get the other girl’s contact information .

    @flyR

    “Skillful, highly developed photo analysis capabilities of the SB
    brain will mentally remove your clothing”

    LOL good one ! Nipples, cleavage, smiles,lots of leg never hurt

  753. FitForFun says:

    Great tips; thank you, gentlemen. :) I almost never wear jeans; it never occurred to me that they would be a turn on!

  754. flyR says:

    PICTURES
    should of course have been of the SD brain

    Skillful, highly developed photo analysis capabilities of the SB
    brain will mentally remove your clothing If it is a quality
    picture you’ll probably get the benefit of the doubt.

    Your lead photo will of course be the most important.

    Umpires have ruled that ice cubes to the nipples (under the blouse of course) prior to photos constitutes unfair competition

  755. flyR says:

    @nc “”FitforFun — I like to see a closeup the face with a big smile, a full body picture in some nice clothing, a full body picture in jeans and a t-shirt, and maybe a bikini picture, if you can rock a bikini. Messy backgrounds are a turnoff. I am fine with selfies and-or mirror shots, but others don’t like them.”
    Great comment especially about backgrounds
    I’m fine with selfies, even in the mirror but with a couple rules
    * before posting blow up the picture on a good sized screen
    to check for
    the motel rate card
    junk in the background (one photo had a guy putting on pants
    in the background – another pillow shot had a guy in it
    when enlarged

    simplicity is the ultimate sophistication (borrowed
    from Northrop You are selling yourself not Alaska

    Every photo should show something unique about you.
    face, eyes, body, overall If not it

    Skillful, highly developed photo analysis capabilities of the SB
    brain will mentally remove your clothing If it is a quality
    picture you’ll probably get the benefit of the doubt. That said
    something that illustrates your sense of style and adaptability
    is good. Above all a smile
    should go

    * if doing a mirror selfie look at the mirror

  756. DorkyGuy says:

    @F4F~ That SB was LittleBird. Hopefully she will chime back in on your question :)

  757. NC Gent says:

    FitforFun — I like to see a closeup the face with a big smile, a full body picture in some nice clothing, a full body picture in jeans and a t-shirt, and maybe a bikini picture, if you can rock a bikini. Messy backgrounds are a turnoff. I am fine with selfies and-or mirror shots, but others don’t like them.

  758. Josh says:

    yougottabekiddingme

    “One year out?! This bush will be down to my knees by then!”

    We were talking about your bush, not your beard. 😉

  759. FitForFun says:

    I took someone’s advice to another SB (don’t remember exactly who) to check out the competition in my area. I have discovered two things:
    1) I am way hotter than most of my competition.
    2) However, no one will ever know this because I need a much better profile picture.

    Any tips from the SDs on what is attractive in a picture? And from the SBs, any tips on how you’ve made yourself stand out?

  760. FatB'StardSA says:

    @flyR

    “If I were emperor of SA I would institute the same rules for the parties.”

    Why don’t you host one of these parties? Follow the advise you give SA and get the blog SB’s to help organize the event. You can fund the parties and split the profit with the SB’s. Everyone makes money and the SB’s get a chance to learn some business skills from you (cheaper than sending them to USMC boot camp).

    Oh yeah, I forgot, you just talk shyte on the blog. Nevermind.

  761. Rachel SB says:

    haha… I was thinking I’d love to be catapulted – sounds like fun. Naturally a beautiful Hinckley would come get me and take me ashore to meet up with the other “Cast-offs” where we continue the party…. eventually those left on the ship will be missing out on the lovely party, but, they will have a glorious time with their near private cruise.

  762. DorkyGuy says:

    Casting them into the ocean may be a tad cruel

    Instead, banish them to a different ship, hosting a singles cruise sponsored by eHarmony

  763. Rachel SB says:

    I’m thinking a playful catapult off the ship… fun way to go out… with a SPLASH!

    What does the survivor get? Or should it be survivors – a SB and SD?

  764. “btw… I’m already planning the sugar cruise in my mind.”

    Perfect!

    Question: Do those who get voted off get a life boat to make it back to shore? Or maybe just a boogie board?

    I’m thinking a life boat and some Costco pound cakes would make for decent parting.

  765. Rachel SB says:

    @YGBKM

    I agree, maybe a non-official sugar cruise would be better… I like the smaller more private cruises. They standardly are more luxurious, and you can go places others cannot.

    Back in the day (oh gosh I’m dating myself again) us SB’s used to have get-togethers. I remember one was in NYC and another same year was in the Hamptons. Lots of fun.

    Theme for the sugar cruise? SURVIVOR. Must be voted on, and off the cruise! Makes for an interesting time?

    Okay someone needs to have a sugar reality show! No matter who you are, you’d watch. You hate the sugar world? Think it’s repulsive… bet you’d watch because you’re “disgusted” but secretly envious. You interested in the sugar world? Bet you’ll watch because you want to see if it’s for you. You bored? You’re definitely going to watch!

    Maybe I should add “innovative” to my profile.

    @Joe Logan – Yes there have been NYC events. I’ve been off the site for a few years due to positive sugar flow, but when I was active we had a few.

    Today is an R&R day for me… I’m off to get a body scrub and brunch. I’ll see y’all later!

    btw… I’m already planning the sugar cruise in my mind.

  766. *the ad Im referring to is the ad from the original L.A. Rouge event blog. I still have day mares about the cream pie finger, and the creepy red lipstick clip. Ugh

  767. “From what I saw a couple decades ago both SD and SB would be better off doing private , below the radar events outside of Brandon’s tent. For several years one of our clients would host a gathering every couple of weeks on Friday afternoon. Usually start at lunch and run to midnight either in a nice ocean view restaurant or charter boat cruise . But the grounrules were pretty simple. If you were female and reasonably intelligent and attractive all you had to do was show up.

    If I were emperor of SA I would institute the same rules for the parties.”

    FlyR…please will you be the emperor of the “Under the Radar” sugar meetups?!

    I’m not sure what service these events does for SA if the parties are supposed to be representative of the members of the site.

    What comes to mind when I watch the ads is cheap, sleazy men, and thirsty women.

    I think Id rather a speak-easy in a one-dollar house in Detroit. Or a cruise where everyone frames everyone, and the winner takes the ship!! Hehe

    Honestly, though…I think that something lower profile would be more appealing.

    There is a monthly meetup in my town for an alternative community where people meet, greet and socialize without pretense. Somehow, though, it seems that pretension is part of the game here.