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Sugar Style Q&A
  • Posted Aug 21, 2014

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As the resident style expert at SeekingArrangement, I receive many inquiries about style, grace, and maintaining face.  With so many Sugar Babies all over the world, there is no way to give an exact style guide for acceptable aesthetics from Miami to Moscow.  This blog tackles some of the style questions I have been asked over the past few months.

How should my nails be styled for a date?

Excellent question.  It’s been mentioned that one should have manicured nails at (almost) all times, but seldom do articles discuss the correct look.  My advice?  K.I.S.S. which stands for “Keep It Sexy, Simple.”

For gentleman, a basic manicure is your best bet with pushed back cuticles and trimmed nails.  I know that nails are much more complicated for women and trends are constantly changing.  Remain classic; avoid glitter and nail art, select a versatile and classic palettes.  Although everyone has been raving Christian Louboutin’s new polish line, I’ve always been partial to Chanel’s “Le Vernis” line, which encompasses versatile, refined colors.  Ladies, please keep your polish intact, little islands of polish on bare nails is not a good look!

How many trends can I combine?

Tricky!  Everyone defines trends differently, especially since there has been a new push in retail for “modern classics.”  Typically I’d say it is fine to combine two silhouette trends, but when combining with patterns or prints, it’s best to limit your ensemble to one trend.  Mixing too many trends confuses the eye.  It’s like trying to focus on one color in a tie-dye T.  To better define fashion movements, men should check out GQ’s Trend Report, while women can look at Elle’s guide.

Can seasonal pieces carry over?

My immediate answer would be no, but that pertains to literal “seasonal pieces.”  Sweaters, denim, cotton T’s, and other basics are intended to surpass seasonal expectations.  However, one must note color.  Greys, blacks, creams, and reds can typically transition through fall, winter, spring, and summer. More vibrant colors like orange are best limited to warmer weather.

When considering shoes and accessories, one must take texture to the forefront.  Suedes should be limited to fall and winter, while woven leather and linen is perfect for spring and summer.

I’m not sure what to wear on a first date.  We’re meeting at a restaurant I’ve never been to before…any advice?

For this situation, Yelp is your friend.  If the restaurant or venue is a surprise, then you should play it safe.  Both men and women should stick to neutral colors.  As a man, a date-safe look has always been a pressed dress shirt, paired with chinos and a sport coat.  These looks can be more difficult for women, but one can never go wrong with the iconic DVF wrap dress and simple accessories.

If you’d like to see your question answered please shoot me an email with the subject “SB Style Guide.”

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739 Responses to “Sugar Style Q&A”

  1. Jj says:

    “Oh good grief…!!!” C.B. ….. SunshineyJacoby of your …..whatever….. enough of your bullshyiet reactionary tactics and get the f*ck over yourself already!!!! One is to surmise that if your blog approach is what becomes evident in your “candidates interviews”; it is of no wonder you do not have any “clients” as yet…. nuff said!!!

  2. Jacob says:

    @Fantasy

    Yes, the boudoir talk is more fun. I agree with you that things like Greek ought to be something that the SB is willing to try. However, in my experience, ironically, the percentage of SB willing to do bareback far out-number willing to do Greek. I have never asked for 3some either Mff or MMf in the context of sugaring.

  3. Kms2014 says:

    Sure 😉

  4. Jacob says:

    “The guy clearly has mental issues”

    Another incident of libel. You are just digging a deeper hole for yourself.

    “…everyone teases him on blog but for some reason likes to bring my son into his comments regarding me, when he cannot think of anything else to say and cannot handle the joke.”

    You are the one who can not handle the joke about how you are going to be paid for rendering service that the potential payer doesn’t want. I handled your joke about forcible rape quite well.

    “I did use “loon” in reference to him…quite unfair to the bird population. I agree with 42 that animals, plants, ect. should be left out.”

    Left out of what? Who died and made you the blog police? Cyber bully.

    “As far as evidences…I do have proof(emails) that he was banned from blog. So, let’s just let that little lie about the software glitch go….”

    I have email from the management telling me there was no ban against my old user ID and asking me to test if it works (it didn’t, due to the glitch). Earlier, I did receive a notice of suspension after you Cyber Bullied me and made up a bunch of lies to the management, but I immediately contacted the management in response to the notice and sent them a mountain evidence substantiating my claims in every post of mine and pointing out the lies and bullying against me. My old account was quickly re-instated. Then the SunShineOfYourLove dude came along. That’s when both his account and my old account became inoperative. That’s why I had to start using a new account, and that’s why the management is fine with my new account. How dumb do you have to be to think that there is a ban against a user, and that same user would be allowed to blatantly post under a different name? Sheesh!

  5. Jacob says:

    Let’s be clear: “Potential reference to a specific kid” does not mean me wanting to reference the kid, but someone else might potentially misconstrue what I write and feel/pretend butt-hurt. Let’s not forget, none of us would know the existence specific kid if not for the manipulative person bringing him to the blog knowledge. Since when are questions like “how are you planning on paying for kids’ college on this kind of career?” ever a threat to the kids?? Perhaps the parents’ choice of career is a threat to the kids’ well being in that case.

    Since someone is incredibly over-reactive (or pretending to be), in the future a humorous way of saying “you might not get paid if you insist on doing things that the payer doesn’t want” will be “Your pet cat/dog/goat might go hungry because you might not be able to afford the wet or dry pet food strictly for four-legged animals.” Does that pass the muster of (feigned) hyper-sensitivity? Somehow it does not have the succinctness of the common expression “Your kids might go hungry.” Oh well, such is life and the stuff we have to put up with the language sensitivity police. Just like in cultures where female genital mutilation is practiced, the older women are the real enforcers on the young girl victims, the male “WhiteKnight Brigade” is the real reason why 2nd and 3rd wave feminist childishness getting out of hand in our own western culture.

  6. Josh says:

    Clarification: I had not read 42’s post before writing mine. I agree, using dog/cat/goat when you’re actually referring to one’s child is even worse.

    I was agreeing to use goat in a non-specific fashion.

  7. Kms2014 says:

    The guy clearly has mental issues…everyone teases him on blog but for some reason likes to bring my son into his comments regarding me, when he cannot think of anything else to say and cannot handle the joke.

    I did use “loon” in reference to him…quite unfair to the bird population. I agree with 42 that animals, plants, ect. should be left out.

    As far as evidences…I do have proof(emails) that he was banned from blog. So, let’s just let that little lie about the software glitch go….

  8. Fantasy says:

    @Jacob
    Wow, what happened to you? Can we get back to the Greek, please? Which by the way I define as a desire that does not change a SB’s life and should be met. That’s why I listed fantasies and desires. Something with potential to change her life? Bareback, company of more than you when she’s only agreed to you initially, etc. I’m sorry more don’t view it this way.

  9. Josh says:

    ‘1. Any potential reference to that particular kid will be changed to “cat/dog/goat”; e.g. “Or the cat/dog/goat might go hungry”’

    I think “goat” would be cool and fairly distant to get anyone charged up. Until of course we have a bunch of people signed up who are emotionally attached to goat/sheep. LOL!

    I must say, sometimes you do come up with intesting shit Sir Jacob the Great, I must say. 😉

  10. 42SWM says:

    No nuanced clarifications or games. Don’t mention anyone else’s kids. PERIOD. Using different words to mean the specific child of a specific individual is not the maturity one would expect to see from a person as successful as you claim to be or as concerned with the welfare of others are you claim.

    In the past, you were upset with people addressing your HYPOTHETICAL future kids with certain characterizations. You were upset even though the statements were purely normative, not operational. Now you are making threats (nuanced or not) involving operational statements pertaining to a real person. Your proposed game of blurring the identity of that person by using a different word like “goat” (a literally dehumanizing word)is disappointing.

    Are you truly incapable of banter that does not involve threatening people through their kids?

    Keep the kids out of it. And by “kids” I include any clever substitute words including but not limited to cat, dog, goat, all other animals, all plants, all words denoting physical objects, et al.

    Some types of banter are off limits for a gentleman.

    Surely a disciplined person as yourself making plans to save others can muster up the discipline to avoid addressing this one topic?

  11. Jacob says:

    Thank you for your inputs, Josh and 42. Some clarification is in order: “Or the kids might go hungry” is not targeting any specific kids but a reminder of parental responsibility. Perhaps it takes fellow parents like myself and KMS to appreciate the humor/subtlety; I often use the expression “I have to feed my kids too” as a more diplomatic alternative to one of the two following:

    1. “Pay me now, or I’m sending your account to collection”;
    2. “No, we are not going on that vacation, because I have to work.”

    Obviously, my kids are not going hungry if one account go bad or one vacation takes place. Frankly, kids in the US don’t have to go hungry, period; with 40+ million people on food stamps and school meal program on top of that, the worst can happen to kids in low-income household is not going hungry but being fed too much processed food and become obese! LOL. So “Or the kids might go hungry” is clearly a jovial exaggeration, not verbal threat to anyone.

    When Josh first mentioned the kids reference, I thought it was a joke and he was just posturing as the “alpha mediator”; I figured there was enough room on the stage, and played along. Then we saw KMS launching into her opportunistic crying-wolf. It’s interesting to note how quickly the “WhiteKnight brigade” rode to the rescue of the wolf-crying child, even in what should have been a relatively “alpha” company, even after the women had just joked about raping a man with a turkey baster against his will moments previously. Goes to show why the 2nd/3rd wave feminist childishness has such a fertile ground in our current western culture.

    In order to avoid future waste of bandwidth on the blog comments, I will resolve to do the following two in the future:

    1. Any potential reference to that particular kid will be changed to “cat/dog/goat”; e.g. “Or the cat/dog/goat might go hungry”

    2. I will treat future shit-tests from that particular poster as jokes that they are, instead of taking her charges seriously and automatically kicking into legal defense and counter-suing mode by gathering evidences, which are solid but can be a little boring. LOL.

    Now let’s carry on with the usual adult bantering.

  12. Analog Kid says:

    gtt_envy says:

    August 31, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    “Youth isn’t the only asset, but in sugar it’s often the most important one, at least for me. My LTR is awesome, we get along awesome, have great sex, toys, travel, she volunteers in 3rd world countries great heart and great person. My interest in sugar is YOUTH and those first time smiles and surprises. I’m not looking to spoil someone my LTR’s age late 30′s, so for me 20-22 is perfect.

    Jacob, I used to think I wanted a LTR, but I’m come to conclude I don’t. I just want 3-4 romps in the hay and that’s it. I get bored quickly it’s just the experience for me. Once those firsts are over I’m just not that interested.

    I’m sure that’s because I have that great LTR that meets all of my needs except that desire for youth and variety.”

    Man I could not agree more with this ………. you and I are in this for the exact same reasons. Variety is the key with me and like you ……once I look into their eyes and it registers that I’ve seen this movie enough times already …… I move on. Wonder how many SD’s swim in this pool?

  13. SWM42 says:

    Kids should be off limits. Be a gentleman and knock it off. You seem unable to stop bringing up a certain poster’s child. Using a child to deliver a blow to the child’s mother is neither sophisticated nor chivalrous. Certainly a smart man such as yourself can exercise better self control than that?

  14. Josh says:

    *with our banter…

  15. Josh says:

    Jacob, we adults can go back and forth with bour anter. No problen with that.

    You frequently bring children into the mix. That’s where it gets sticky. You may have a perfect reason for that but my read of blog etiquettes is different.

    Let’s see what Kirsten has to say.

  16. Jacob says:

    I stick to debating what is right what is wrong, and trying to De – escalate through distangling misunderstandings. Your throwing around content free personal attacks like “crazy” “loon” is not helping.

  17. Jacob says:

    You started this fight by accusing me of threatening women and children. Before that it was back and forth harmless banter.

  18. Jacob says:

    Your repeated lie about my old user ID being banned is yet another slander and libel.

    Can’t handle teasing? Joking about going home withoit getting paid due to not delivering what the payer want and consequently unable to feed the family, that’s teasing. . . Accusing someone of threatening women and children, that is not teasing.

  19. Kms2014 says:

    He just won’t quit, Josh 😉 nice try, though…he is crazy as a loon….guess he is asking to get banned again.

  20. Josh says:

    OK. I give up.

    Kristen, what’s your take dear?

    • Kirsten says:

      @Josh I think certain topics should be not spoken of at all etiquette wise. Children, abuse, rape – anything not PC should be kept off the blog. Also, I think we can banter with each other to an extent, but we should be respectful…that’s just my two cents! What do I know, right?

  21. Jacob says:

    Cyber bullying, threat, slander and libel describe your own behavior extremely precisely:

    Cyber bullying: your repeated mischaracterizations of my plan and trying to embarrass not only me but also other women sympathetic to my plan.

    Threat: attempt to get me banned. Frankly your your frantic reaction to any mention of DSS is indicative you know that your own behavior is threatening the well being of your own child. Turns out despite all your effort at slandering and labeling others, you are the ones threatening your child’s well being.

    Slander and libel: both your lies about my plans to have genuine relationships, and your groundless lies about threatening your child.

  22. Josh says:

    I totally hear you my man.

    If this were the psychopath (you known who I am referring to) then I would back you up 110%.

    However, Kms2014 is cool. She’s playful but cool. Let it go my man. I beg you. I don’t want you to be moderated, if you cared to post on this blog at all.

    If you don’t care one way or the other, then do what you must. You are a free man. I will miss you though.

  23. Kms2014 says:

    Cyber bullying, threats, slander, libel….the list goes on. You are a pathetic little man who hides behind his computer and cannot handle any teasing. Get over yourself, your ego…and all your identities! Lol

  24. Josh says:

    @Jacob

    Please go back on blog histroy. Kms2014 did not read anything before I did.

    For the very last time, before the headmistress gets involved, be an alpha man and back off, even if tactically, please.

  25. Jacob says:

    @Josh
    I’d be perfectly willing to apologize for my errors However, false charges of rape and “threatening women and children” are common crying wolf designed to sidetrack dialogue and emasculated men. AS men, it is our nature to stand up and defend women and children, but it is important to refrain from being manipulated by those false claims that trivialize real victimhood.

  26. Jacob says:

    Nobody threatened your son. I said if you keep insist on rendering service that the payer is not interested (in our banter), you would risk being sexually frustrated yourself and financially unrewarded (therefore no money to take home to buy food for the family, as an expression). How did you read threatening your son into this? I don’t pay your son. I hope none of your SD’s pay your son either.

  27. Josh says:

    @Jacob

    The last word. Kms2014 is a good girl. Please!

  28. Josh says:

    @Sir Jacob the Great

    The issue is NOT threat to a minor. We went thru that earlier. The issue is blog etiquettes.

    If the headmistress shows up you will be all alone. 😉

  29. Kms2014 says:

    Keep on, Jacob….this is almost comical in that he cannot even think of any rebuffs to me except threatening my son. What a loser, lol!

  30. Jacob says:

    Threats of what? More misuse of terms you simply don’t understand. If you think your disclosing your own behavior to the DSS would result in them taking custody from you due to threat to the child’s well being, then you should probably stop doing whatever you are doing as a responsible parent. In other words, you know your own behavior constitute threat your own child’ well being, in that case. It’s a simple legality test on your own behavior. Nobody is threatening you of anything.

  31. Kms2014 says:

    Guess he wants to go through a few name changes again 😉

  32. iJosh says:

    *nobody gets hurt…

  33. iJosh says:

    @Sir Jacob the Great

    Please don’t, I repeat DON’T, don’t go off the deep end.

    Back off, apologize to Kms2014, be an alpha man, and nobody geys hurt.

    We don’t need head mistress (the principal NOT the other woman) involved.

    Please.

  34. Jacob says:

    I was not kicking a dead horse per se. “Leaving the kids hungry” was simply an expression for the worker not going to be paid due to the work being unproductive and not meeting employer specification. Not sure how someone read threat to any specific child into this expression. It’s not like any poster would bring her child to a meeting between adults.

  35. Kms2014 says:

    @lol, at putting down the turkey baster, ehehe!

  36. Kms2014 says:

    Kirsten, you might want to take a look at Mr. Sunshine giving me the advice to go to my local DSS office and tell them ‘what I do’. More threats…..

  37. Jacob says:

    BTW, if you insist on talking about threat to your child, how about you talk to your local DSS office and explain to them how you provide for your child, and let them decide if your behavior meet the legal definition of threatening the welling being of your child?

  38. JakeShine,

    Please don’t kick the horse. It’s dead, friend. It’s dead.

    Please…follow sir Josh’s advice. I don’t often suggest this, but the man speaks rightly this time.

    And please, JakeShine…

    Put down the turkey baster, and no one gets hurt.

  39. Kms2014 says:

    Kirsten, I mean (:

  40. Kms2014 says:

    Wonder if a proper quality man without insecurity or ego issues would feel the need to always have to get the last say, threaten AND slander a woman and child, or argue with such a ‘clueless’ and ignorant woman on blog? Hmmm…I’ll ask Kristen 😉

  41. Jacob says:

    Your hearsay does not even qualify as evidence. I doubt very much your “domme friends” are good judges on the nature of corporate appointments, seeing that you don’t even understand what “threat” means in the legal sense and still insist on misusing the term and engaging in libel after repeated corrections on multiple issues. If you are a representative specimen, you seem to be living among a circle of misconceptions and willful ignorance.

  42. Kms2014 says:

    Do you know how many high level men in important positions are ‘not proper men’, by your definition, from what I hear from my domme friends? That is your opinion, but find that assessment to be rude and judgmental…even for the ‘Lord’ almighty himself…but hey, in my opinion, a man that threatens the well being of children is not a proper man 100 times over some high level exec who happens to have a sexual ‘kink’ in order to let go and have someone else take control…but hey, that is just me 😉

  43. Josh says:

    @Sir Jacob the Great

    I totally agree with you when the children spoken of are no one’s specific children.

    Please keep specific children of specific bloggers out. That’s all I am sayin’ 😉

  44. Jacob says:

    @kms
    Because proper men are not supposed to be slaves. Sometimes a quality man can compromise himself too much when he really loves and cares about a woman, but it is, or has to be, a transient phenomenon before he stops being a man (at least to that woman).

  45. Jacob says:

    Josh, I have found it highly effective to re butt the typical 2nd and 3rd wave feminist nonsense with a simple question along the lines of “so what’s going to happen to your kids or future kids?” See, those nonsensical feminism usually base on pretending women to be men. Reminding them of their own higher calling usually wakes them up quickly.

  46. Kms2014 says:

    @Josh…sunshineofnosubmission makes a horrible slave… 😉

  47. Josh says:

    Now now brother Jacob. EVERYONE’S kids MUST be out of discussion, including yours.

    Thank you for your kind cooperation for the of sense of fun on the blog.

  48. Jacob says:

    Stop the pussy dehumidifier talk; if you keep up that nonsense act contrary to your own nature, you are going to be very unsatisfied and your kid is going to be hungry.

  49. Kms2014 says:

    It might hurt you, but that is the point! See, this whole time you were the one with turkey baster fantasies for your own sunshineofyoursubmissionorafice…no more back talk, slave!

  50. Kms2014 says:

    Hush sunshineofyoursubmission slave! No more lies!…now, where were we…oh yes…take your dominant hand, and that God-sized turkey baster of yours…yes,yes, like that…now, bend over ever so slightly, yes…with turkey baster in hand…

  51. Jacob says:

    Email nesunshinesd at gmail with your profile number.

    Stop hamstering, KMS, now you are just trying to cover up the wet spot in your pants. Should have worn a skirt today before coming to meet me instead of the pants. Kirsten ‘ s presence weeks ago during similar exchange should have proved to you the veracity about everything I said. My old user ID is not under any ban, but the blog sever software is confused after that SunshineOfYourLove chose an ID that has 8 identical starting characters as my old ID.

    In any case, he who has the gold makes the rules . . . And by the look of your wetness, you really like the rules that I’m making 😉

  52. “Jacob says:
    September 2, 2014 at 3:42 pm
    @yougotta

    There is really no other way to prove your woamnhood/fitness for motherhood.”

    Well, since there is no other way…

  53. Kms2014 says:

    “Jacob says:
    September 2, 2014 at 3:32 pm
    The pleasure is all mine, dear, now sign here on the consent form, before I tie you to the bed posts.”

    No…you have your sub fantasy all wrong..it is the domme that ties you to the post, and whips you, humiliates you into admitting all your naughties…and makes you admit your true reasons for all the name changes/identity crisis and blog banning, lol!

  54. Jacob says:

    @yougotta

    There is really no other way to prove your woamnhood/fitness for motherhood. Not saying I’d donate my sperms and $1 mil to raise the child for every woman who seeks proof, any such a she would have to find a partner and live with whatever he is willing or able to provide.

  55. “Brother Jacob bringth turkey baster containing millions of tiny little candidates to carry his mega-alpha gene forward. ”

    :(

  56. Bahahahaha!

    That was a good one, though, JakeShine. Lol.

    Donnnnnt doooo it, Kmsssssss!!!

  57. Josh says:

    Brother Jacob bringth turkey baster containing millions of tiny little candidates to carry his mega-alpha gene forward. 😉

  58. Kms2014 says:

    Wait, by God….this cannot be so…God is not a sub or domme…he only makes children without the sex part. This must be some sort of joke!

  59. Jacob says:

    The pleasure is all mine, dear, now sign here on the consent form, before I tie you to the bed posts.

  60. Kms2014 says:

    I love it when you talk dirty to me, sunshineofyoursubfantasies…Ahaha!

  61. Jacob says:

    So, as you listened to this male pussy and her* fantasy, did you feel yourself getting wet and want to rip her blouse off, or did you listen to her with bemused disgust like watching a mouse unable to tear itself away from the cheese trap you have set and is about to be caught?
    *third person female pronoun, as in the Freudian slip that you showed earlier.

  62. “jJosh says:
    September 2, 2014 at 12:45 pm
    “I’ve plenty fertile years ahead of me.”

    Anyone can claim that. Prove it.”

    I’m not at all interested in proving anything to anyone here, as my esteem, validity nor fertility are not contingent upon the approval of anyone within this space. K, sexy?

    How do you suggest I “prove it” anyway? By getting knocked up by JakeShine? And that’s no offense to you, JakeShine…I’m sure your sperm are quite handsome.

  63. Kms2014 says:

    I forgot, oh all knowing…you know all about the sub/domme lifestyle…my bad 😉 DomSB didn’t even state that, anyways. However, think there are probably more older ladies into being a true domme, than 21 year olds. My assumption is just that as far as age.

    One of my subs…the one I met that looked so wholesome…He described pretty detailed stuff, such as cuckolding, humiliation…and some more seasoned sub fantasies not intended for a novice. He had an arrangement that was getting boring to him, as he could probably tell she wasn’t really into it. Have two friends that dabble in this, so while I haven’t experienced it, firsthand, have heard enough stories from them, and received enough messages to know it isn’t as rare as you think.

  64. Jacob says:

    @KMS
    DomSB seems to think that putting in the age 38 alone is enough to attract that particular interest.

    Methinks until you consummate with one, you really never know whether his interest is really in being dominated or himself dominating a seemingly feisty women in leather; I.e. switching. It is a high risk subcategory even for the seasoned pros.

  65. Kms2014 says:

    In his* early 40’s

  66. Kms2014 says:

    To add detail to that…met a guy, when I was on SA last year…pretty good looking guy, in her early 40’s…we went out to dinner and drinks, spoke about what we were looking for. It was pretty similar to what I was, but in a way felt like he was looking for something more real, like a real relationship, kind of. Don’t know how the subject was brought up, but is mentioned a past POT who had wanted me to go to a crazy ‘eyes wide shut’ type swinger party for the elites…some crazy stuff. Anyway, this guy laughed and kind of made fun of it. He seemed to be against any ‘kinks’ that I saw from our date. He bought tickets for me to go to a music festival with him, but I had to cancel last minute…and another time, due to some family stuff. He didn’t forgive me for that(understandably). Anyways, flash forward to earlier this year…had new pictures, so guess he didn’t recognize me. He emailed me and I told him I had met him last year. Well, his search had certainly changed! He was looking for some pretty intense stuff, as far as looking for a domme. He was a total sub and told me he had grown bored of his current arrangement because she wasn’t performing her part well. I asked him why he didn’t tell me last year, and I got the impression he was looking for a real girlfriend type arrangement. He said he was looking for both, but really wanted to find a good domme but that it was VERY hard to find this. So, looks and even meeting someone, who looks like your everyday business/frat guy can be very deceiving as to what they are into, in the bedroom.

  67. Jacob says:

    @Fantasy
    I agree with you, if the subject is the SD’s role – play wishes. I was talking about some hard limits, such as “Greek” sex, which most men wish but most women usually do not accede to except for special occasions, many never.

  68. DomSB says:

    @Jacob

    Me thinks Jacob has no clue about the number of submissive males here…

    True, most of them are not open about it in their profile, but they do actively search for female Dommes!

    You would be amazed…

    I think the 38yo would stand a good chance, if she would focus more on her Dominance in the profile.
    And no, not only older subs will react, there is some (even very) young ones on this site too.

  69. Kms2014 says:

    How many* I have been contacted by…meaning quite a few! And like a domme friend told me…many of these sub men are on the ‘down low’ about it, so do not post it in their profile or advertise it.

  70. Fantasy says:

    @Jacob
    I think you’re making arrangements with the wrong women then. Every SB should want to partake in fulfilling fantasies or desires their SD has, as long as it doesn’t alter their life. You’ve already provided for them and met their requirements, they’re already having sex with you, so why not?

  71. Kms2014 says:

    “Jacob says:
    September 2, 2014 at 1:28 pm
    Methinks the supply of dominant women is smaller, the demand even smaller. Just like the supply of male SB’s are much smaller than female SB’s, but the demand is even smaller; similar to age, ethnicity, etc, etc..
    The only things I can think of where there is likely rare supply coupled with common demand in this market are some sexual skills and methods that most men want while the majority of women refuse on the majority of occasions.”

    Hahaha! What would you know, if you are not in that lifestyle, and not even a SB? I couldn’t even tell how how many subs I’ve been contacted by, in the past… and my profile(s) mentioned, in no way, shape or form, that I am a domme, since I am not. I have had the men tell me how hard it is to find a good domme that is really ‘into’ it. Do you really think you know, from a SB perspective, oh all knowing, or do you just like to be contrary to whatever I post? 😉

  72. Josh says:

    @Alexis

    You can’t blame her for anything though. She was born at a very young age. 😉

  73. jJosh says:

    Thus brother Jacob enterth the sacred valley of cum talk, with humility and bare feet of course. 😉

  74. Jacob says:

    Methinks the supply of dominant women is smaller, the demand even smaller. Just like the supply of male SB’s are much smaller than female SB’s, but the demand is even smaller; similar to age, ethnicity, etc, etc..
    The only things I can think of where there is likely rare supply coupled with common demand in this market are some sexual skills and methods that most men want while the majority of women refuse on the majority of occasions.

  75. jJosh says:

    “I’ve plenty fertile years ahead of me.”

    Anyone can claim that. Prove it. 😉

  76. “Why don’t you entertain Jacob’s plan? Or did you already go through menopause? Or gracious! Were you not born with a uterus??

    Olay chit! I’m probably adopted!!”

    Ha. Funny. I’ve plenty fertile years ahead of me. As for Jacobs plan, I’m not interested. Though Ive shared before that there are parts of his plan that I can appreciate.

  77. Kms2014 says:

    Ygbkm…You have mail 😉

  78. “Jacob says:
    September 2, 2014 at 10:56 am
    @yougottabeshittingme

    Not sure why you dragged me into this. I have not noticed any indication that Alexis is interested in having a baby. Besides, we have no idea where she is located, how she looks, etc., etc. Her writings are refreshing for the blog from a female perspective.”

    You see, JakeShine….you answered your own question. I was merely pointing out that you two might be compatible as I figured you’d find her perspective a breath of fertile air. And while she didn’t explicitly state that she wants a baby, she does want it raw. I say give her the bang and the buck, and get the wheels rolling on your plan.

  79. Alexis says:

    “Alexis exists only as the alter ego of the undisclosed person who created her. Her comments are, not only absurd, but completely invalid as representative of whatever demographic she claims as she is a fictional character created only to counter positions and appeal to misogynistic views.”

    You poor baby. Is someone different from you really that hard to accept that you have to enter into various stages of smokescreening and denial? That’s very sad to me, but there isn’t anything I can do about it. Even if there was, I probably wouldn’t change it as your outlandishness can be hilarious to observe at times.

    As for other mentions:
    We’ve already cleared up that I’m not looking for a virgin.
    I would never accept a $1,000/month allowance.
    I would never “rent out” my uterus because: A.) I don’t want any children. B.) I would never ruin my body like that.

    Why don’t you entertain Jacob’s plan? Or did you already go through menopause? Or gracious! Were you not born with a uterus??

    Olay chit! I’m probably adopted!!

  80. Kms2014 says:

    Submissive men would probably love that she is 6’7″ in heels, but am not sure. Would have to ask SBs on blog who are more into that scene.

  81. Kms2014 says:

    “Jacob says:
    September 2, 2014 at 11:09 am
    @Josh
    She is looking for an older boyfriend who can provide her with security, perhaps in the live – in format. “SD” mostly in terms of the age difference she is open to, not in terms of a multi thousand allowance while maintaining her own household and independent life. She is smart in using SA to look for such an older gentleman, so both their SMV can decline together in lock steps instead wasting time on conventional dating sites with her three kids in tow.”

    Haha, I am not sure what this woman looks like, or the details of what she offers, but if she is as ‘domme’ as hinted in her profile, then she would be VERY much in demand and get a pretty decent allowance. She is not limited to 50 or 60 something’s, considering she is attractive, and has something different to offer. From what I have heard, and offers for myself, a domme or dominant woman is quite rare, on SA, or anywhere and can demand a lot in allowance. The guys on blog are not into that, so wouldn’t expect them to understand this.

  82. Josh says:

    @Jacob

    “near-retired”

    Is that a typo, my “uterus envy” man?

    First time around I read it as “near retarded” so just wanted to confirm. 😉

  83. Josh says:

    “Can I climb in your lap at any point”

    I don’t know about “any point” dear. Just when I have my 500 ft-lb capacity pelvis and hip bone support gadget on. OK dear?

    I still love you. 😉

  84. Josh says:

    “Can I climb in your lap at any point”

    I don’t know about “any point” dear. Just when I have as 500 lb capacity belvis and hip bone support gadget on.

    I still love you. 😉

  85. 42SWM says:

    Some of the men who are “sympathetic” to feminism are actually sleeper agents. One of my law school friends took all the gender-law classes, served as an editor of a gender-based law review, and said all sorts of things that he didn’t mean in public. All to score with the girls (he was not into politics at all, just the politics of scoring) Fascinating guy. In a way you have to admire his dedication. I distinctly recall being called a “barbarian” by a female law student while in this guy’s presence. Wouldn’t surprise me if he was on SA in 2014.

  86. Jacob says:

    My guess is that her realistic chance is with someone in his late 50 ‘ s and 60’s, near-retired, settled and don’t want the drama of a younger girl and don’t want to pay too much in terms of cash outlay but can provide for her as fringe benefits of maintaining his own good living standards.

  87. Jacob says:

    @Josh
    She is looking for an older boyfriend who can provide her with security, perhaps in the live – in format. “SD” mostly in terms of the age difference she is open to, not in terms of a multi thousand allowance while maintaining her own household and independent life. She is smart in using SA to look for such an older gentleman, so both their SMV can decline together in lock steps instead wasting time on conventional dating sites with her three kids in tow.

  88. 42SWM says:

    “1”. Just because nothing is impossible, and there are all sorts of weird people out there.

  89. Josh says:

    “There are far more men sympathetic to feminism”

    Total disclosure…I was one such idiot for most of my adult, post-college life. :(

  90. Josh says:

    “Can you explore at a flea market, in the middle of the woods, in a river, or where ever wt me?”

    The girl has fleas and they must be explored and gotten rid of in the woods and in the river.

    The girl is environment friendly and saves “it” every time she writes what seems to be “with.”

    Although she did not mention it, she may be looking for a basketball player or a man with stilts?

  91. Jacob says:

    @yougottabeshittingme

    Not sure why you dragged me into this. I have not noticed any indication that Alexis is interested in having a baby. Besides, we have no idea where she is located, how she looks, etc., etc. Her writings are refreshing for the blog from a female perspective (I thought it was a male poster at the beginning too due to the ambivalent name), but in real life such perspective from a woman is not unique, although rare. There are far more men sympathetic to feminism than women recognizing the unvarnished truth about gender dynamics, probably also due to the biological imperatives.

  92. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question: How many women in the world don’t believe that they are “the girl next door,and the sexy seductress in your bed”?

  93. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question: On the scale of 0-10 (0 being zilch and 10 being totally) what’s the likelihood of this 37 year-old, “mixed” ethnicity, divorced, mother of three to get an SD on SA?

    Important note: She did not declare that her children are her world. 😉

    About Me

    I am a very tall,athletic, mother of 3. Im very outgoing,independent,dominant by nature,fun/funny, friendly,smart,witty….yada yada. Lol. I love to dance,music,movies,live bands,art. I rescue great danes. I currently have 3 . I have a passion for life, horses, my family,and beaches! I love the water,swimming, boating, anything out doors. I am the girl next door,and the sexy seductress in your bed. I am country and city,fit into any situation. 6’7 in heels,I can def turn heads…are you secure enough to love it? I AM NOT A PAY TO PLAY TYPE,I WANT ONE MAN,I DO NOT SLEEP AROUND AND WILL NOT START ! I have an open schedule, as I own my own business. I love to travel. Lets have fun, enjoy each others company,and make memories! If you are not willing to meet within 2 to 3 weeks, are not HWP ,are covered in hair or are over 70, Please do not contact me. Must be prepared to show a picture of yourself. I respect your privacy, but there must be chemistry, and attraction! I am real, and am looking. I am ready today if need be. Dont hesitate to contact me, I am very honest, blunt, and straight forward…. I am also very accustomed to submissive type relationship, but if you are not that’s perfectly fine,it does not have to be involved in our relationship. I am able to relocate for the right daddy/relationship! I am very loving,compassionate,articulate,intelligent,attentive,affectionate. I absolutely love kissing,touching,caressing,snuggling! Don’t let the height scare you!

    What I’m looking for

    Are you comfortable wt PDA? Do you love kissing and affection and can give as well enjoy being spoiled wt my affection? Are you about a POA instead of something meaningful,complete,fulfilling,exciting,living on the edge, laughing…wt no strings attached? Do you like tan long legs? Do you like to snuggle, and the little things matter more than the big ones? Are you stubborn and like to be contained in that moment wt a kiss? Do you like massages, and the feel of nails lightly caressing your skin all over, seducing every nerve in your body, light kisses and nibbles on your skin following my nails? Can I climb in your lap at any point and sit in front of you and just kiss you passionately for no reason but to feel your lips on mine,and be close? Would you mind a woman that can hold her own in any situation,and perhaps throw a wet slimy mud ball at you and start an all out war? Can you explore at a flea market, in the middle of the woods, in a river, or where ever wt me? IF and only IF you can answer yes to these questions, then you are perfect for me!! I cant list or ask the many things I love to do, but you can ask if you are brave enough!!

  94. Josh says:

    @yougottabenotdecidingwhatishouldbeinterestedinandwhatishouldntbe

    True? 😉

    That said, even though we don’t see eye to eye on many things, I believe that you have evolved into an interesting contributor. :)

  95. Josh says:

    @yougottabenotdecidingwhatishouldbeinterestedinandwhatishouldntbe

    True? 😉

  96. By the way…

    I, as well as others, I’m sure, would love to hear more perspective of under represented demographics. If you are truly interested in the bisexual experience as “a window into sugar that [you are] intellectually curious to hear about”, then try reaching out to the five or so people who have recently posted. Unless, of course, your curiosity is nothing more than empty, egotistical, opportunistic rambling.

    Kirsten…

    Anyone care to write a blog topic on the subject? One that isn’t a roygbiv blanket of “there’s something in sugar for everyone, and you can do it, too?”

  97. “@yougottabegettimgoverjosh=alexis–imeanpronto needs to stop harrasing a bisxual in her exploration of sugar as she sees fit.

    It’s a window into sugar that I am intellectually curious to hear about and can use absence of constant harassment and intentional misinterpretation of what’s stated.”

    Josh, my nemesis love…

    Let’s not leap over bridges, please. I would very much appreciate if you wouldn’t accuse me of homophobia or discrimation/harassment of anyone based on their orientation.

    Alexis exists only as the alter ego of the undisclosed person who created her. Her comments are, not only absurd, but completely invalid as representative of whatever demographic she claims as she is a fictional character created only to counter positions and appeal to misogynistic views.

    According to Alexis, she is not interested in relationships with women as her terrible experiences with them have turned her to primarily seek 40 year old virgin men (or the closest thing to it) with whom she’ll gladly have unprotected sex so long as she’s given a $1000 monthly allowance. She actually might be just one line of cocaine, one shot of heroin, one meth lab, or one spiked Shirley Temple away from qualifying for JacobOfYourSunshinyUterus’ rent-a-womb plan. He might just be her type. He is 40, afterall, and he revirginizes/regenerates with every new uterus he inoculates. He’s like the Dr. Who of uterine insemination. As an added bonus, he will actually increase her $1000 monthly allowance request to 750 times the national average. Fucking score. She should totally tap that. You wouldn’t mind sharing her with JakeShine, would you? Dr. Daddy, can you save her?

    But of course, dear, it’s whatever makes you happy :).

    “Thank you for your cooperation.”

    You’re most welcome, my love.

  98. Jj says:

    “Oh good grief…!!” yk

  99. Josh says:

    @Alexis

    “Oh mom, I just don’t know why you’re so focused on a “side” desire of mine and wish to make it my focus, when it clearly is not.”

    I don’t know how rampant it is in other circles, but on this blog it’s a common practice to take what you write and spin it forever regardless of how may explanation you provide of where you’re coming from.

    @yougottabegettimgoverjosh=alexis–imeanpronto needs to stop harrasing a bisxual in her exploration of sugar as she sees fit.

    It’s a window into sugar that I am intellectually curious to hear about and can use absence of constant harassment and intentional misinterpretation of what’s stated.

    Thank you for your cooperation. 😉

  100. Josh says:

    I know. Thanks for your kind realization and acknowledgement. 😉

  101. Alexis says:

    Oh mom, I just don’t know why you’re so focused on a “side” desire of mine and wish to make it my focus, when it clearly is not.

    Oh but wait! What am I saying??? It’s probably those rewired synapsis. Awww poor mom. They got you too. :(

  102. Are you still driving around the outer belt, Alexis?

    You do realize that it’s just one big loop around the city, and that it will never get you to the sugar ball, don’t you? I do hope you are going to the sugar ball. I hear there will be lots of 40 year old virgin men, just like what you’re looking for. You can only go up, at this point. So go for it, and you’ll win, I’m sure :).

  103. Alexis says:

    “Probably a virgin seeking SB who drives along the city outer belt for days wondering why she hasn’t made it out of town yet.”

    Mom! I knew you couldn’t go more than 48 hours without thinking about me, awwwww.

  104. Alexis says:

    “Wow just wow. The misogyny in this blog is so rampant.”

    You obviously haven’t been here (or are blind to or purposefully ignoring) the misandry that’s usually present on the blog.

    I’m glad someone finally changed the channel.

    “A feminist wants equality for both sexes while still understanding that there are inherent, natural differences between the two and respecting those.”

    You obviously haven’t met many feminists. You may even believe you’re one. You’ve a lot to learn. Feminists NEVER recognize a difference between man and woman and their ultimate goal is in the destruction of men, masculinity, and anything even remotely male… unless it’s them of course. They can be masculine. That’s different.

    Most feminists are obese or look like men or both. It’s really rather frightening. I also don’t believe (although I could be wrong) that your average woman, even though she has been subjected to quite a bit of feminist propoganda, understands the mentality and agenda of an active feminist. Both of these things are truly terrifying.

  105. Josh says:

    @sexyrockstar

    “Blog sbs have to be pretty…..they are sbs. Aren’t all of us sugar babies beautiful?”

    Of course, as all blog SDs are millionaires many times over.

    “You also come off as a douche…a lovely and smart douche”

    I so live for them back handed compliments

    “so I guess a part of me would be intrigued to see what you think of me.”

    As long as those parts’ names starts with a and b, I am game. LOL!

  106. sexyrockstar says:

    Josh, just being silly. Blog sbs have to be pretty…..they are sbs. Aren’t all of us sugar babies beautiful?

    You also come off as a douche…a lovely and smart douche so I guess a part of me would be intrigued to see what you think of me.

  107. Josh says:

    @Sam Spayed

    You do have some balls to come up with a shitty name like this.

  108. Josh says:

    @yougottabegrowingsomeharyballssoon

    “What if his balls don’t itch, babe?”

    Who the heck told you that balls need to itch before you scratch them?

    Read the red book of feminism page 203,456…middle of the page. sSection heading is, “Cause and Effect.” 😉

  109. Josh says:

    By the way it will be any minute before one of the most boring bloggers raises his ugly head and admonishs Josh. And I kinda sorta quote, “why is it that you can dish it out but can’t take it?”

    My answer to that is… “why the fuck should I take any guff from a boring whiner if I don’t have to?” 😉

  110. What if his balls don’t itch, babe?

  111. Josh says:

    @Sam Spayed

    “As an example, before this post, Josh posted 217 out of 619 posts on this thread, which is over 35% of the posts. Making him quite dominant.”

    Rhetorical question: how boring anyone’s life needs to be before he counts Josh’s posts?

    Rhetorical answer: Fairly boring. :(

    Important Note: 9 out of ten dentists have confirmed that it’s always a male who counts Josh’s posts. The 10th dentist refused to take the survey and allegedly said, and I quote, “fuck this survey. I’d rather scratch my balls while they are firm. I don’t want to scratch them when they are spayed.”

  112. Josh says:

    @sexyrockstar

    “You said the sbs that blog are ugly. How can I prove to you that I’m not ugly? Lol.”

    1. Does it matter what I think of your ugliness or lack there of specifically?

    2. If it doesn’t then why bother?

    3. If it does then we shall find a way. 😉

    By the way, a couple of blog SBs who sent me their pix are gorgeous.

  113. Josh says:

    @Sam Spayed

    Based on experience from those who make your kind of posts, I have a strong feeling that you don’t like me. So I am not going to even try to be cordial with you since you’d rather see me gone like flyR has wished from the first day I started posting.

    “There seems to be an even lower signal to noise ratio on the blog compared to when I used to post years ago.”

    Yeah good ole days are gone grampa. Just scratch your sagging balls and get on with it. Either post interesting stuff to increase the signal side of the ratio or go back to scratching them balls.

    “Meaningful discussion is difficult in this kind of forum:”

    I know what’s “meaningful” to your kind. Read flyR’s dumb and dumber posts. They’re mighty meaningful.

    “blogs often baseline to those contributors who have a lot of spare time to post.”

    If you have to work a lot to make ends meet how’s that the frequent contributors’ problem? Go back to whatever you do and be a productive member of the society. When you have free time come back and post a lot, if that excites you. Until then stop whining, and do what does not cost anything, can be done almost anywhere, and feels pretty good most of the times.

    “They end up dominating the tone by virtue of the prolific posting and quick turnaround, which are advantages in a linear blog without branching topics like this one.”

    Either you have time to post, intelligence to post interesting stuff, and the balls (these are different from the ones you scratch, ok) to withstand viscious attacks like flyR and his buddies use to make to kick me out, OR you can scratch the other balls as suggested earlier.

    “But it makes it difficult for occasional posters such as myself to pick up information, make contributions to a thread, or have questions answered.”

    Awww, why bother? Just scratch your balls some more, OK?

  114. Jacob says:

    Remember Stephen King’s “Children of the Corn”? Demon-possessed children running the town.

  115. Josh says:

    @Jacob

    “made childish caricatures of themselves”

    Really? Regardless of anyone’s like or dislike of feminism, any movement would kill (pun intended) to make “childish caricatures of themselves” with the kind of success feminism has had. 😉

  116. sexyrockstar says:

    Josh..

    You said the sbs that blog are ugly. How can I prove to you that I’m not ugly? Lol.

    I’m slowly catching up on these comments, lol.

  117. Jacob says:

    PITA or PETA? LOL
    Plain Old Feminists of the First Wave Feminism circa a century ago were okay. They were working on giving women equal civil rights, etc.. It’s the more recent 2nd and 3rd wave feminists who have gone off the deep end and made childish caricatures of themselves.

  118. Sam Spayed says:

    As an example, before this post, Josh posted 217 out of 619 posts on this thread, which is over 35% of the posts. Making him quite dominant. A while ago Slashdot evolved a user moderation system over several years that helped mitigate this sort of effect but it is likely hopeless to contemplate this site using a system of that sophistication.

  119. Sam Spayed says:

    There seems to be an even lower signal to noise ratio on the blog compared to when I used to post years ago.

    Meaningful discussion is difficult in this kind of forum: blogs often baseline to those contributors who have a lot of spare time to post. They end up dominating the tone by virtue of the prolific posting and quick turnaround, which are advantages in a linear blog without branching topics like this one. But it makes it difficult for occasional posters such as myself to pick up information, make contributions to a thread, or have questions answered.

  120. Sam Spayed says:

    I’ve had a few Lamborghinis. But I switched to Porsche and Ferrari and never looked back. On the wait list for a McLaren. I have never had one. I almost bought an F1 from Texas in 2000 but did not. Had the dubious distinction of killing the highest fraction if its owners of any production car.

  121. sexyrockstar says:

    I disappear for some time and wow. Anyways, yougottabekidding….

    Remember how you talked about driving an sd car and having a fantastic time….well over the weekend, that was me. But, I just bought my own fancy car. To who ever makes blogs…id like to write one. About the last three months of leaving the sugar world. And what I did to get there.

    Anyways, I was driving in my formers lambo….to the car dealership where I bought my Cadillac :) I did this while wearing sweat pants :)

  122. Josh says:

    @Carmen

    Nice sugarcoating. what other distructive phenomena you have romantic understandings of? 😉

  123. Josh says:

    A PETA activist feminist is worse than a plain old feminist. 😉

  124. Carmen says:

    *misogynist

  125. Carmen says:

    And what’s worse than a feminist? Tie between a misandrist and a mysoginist. Spread the love :) lol

  126. Carmen says:

    Wow just wow. The misogyny in this blog is so rampant. I also am not sure how you define a feminist but a feminist is not someone who is out to try and get everything from men or who only care about women. A feminist wants equality for both sexes while still understanding that there are inherent, natural differences between the two and respecting those. And feminists are all about sexual freedom and I would imagine most of us in the sugar lifestyle enjoy this part of feminism. Of course there are women who want to get as much from men as possible but this is not feminism. This is just greedy human nature which is found in both sexes. Men also try to get as much from women (mainly referring to sex) for the least amount of effort. Human nature.

  127. Worse than a feminist?

    Well, I can think of a lot of things, but at the top of the list at the moment is…lemme think…

    Probably a virgin seeking SB who drives along the city outer belt for days wondering why she hasn’t made it out of town yet.

    But then again, not sure how you define a feminist. Seems that anyone who isn’t peeling potatoes in the kitchen while worshipping the cock of her breeder without whom she’d have no potatoes to peel, is a feminist.

  128. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question: What’s worse than a feminist?

  129. This can’t be real.

    [pinches self, refreshes page]

    Yep…

  130. Alexis says:

    @Josh
    “There’s neither a “need” for such existence nor is it desirable. It’s an unfortunate consequence of a feminism.”
    I know… like so much else that just plain sucks.

    “I am not confident at all that feminism can be eradicated or even curtailed. Have you ever tried to “discuss” cause and effect with a feminist?”
    I’m fully confident that feminism will eventually be ditched by society. You can only fight nature for just so long. Besides, I’m starting to see more of a shift in the opposite direction. It may take some time or something very drastic, but it’s inevitable.
    Nevermind cause and effect, you can’t discuss ANYTHING with a feminist. The synapses in their brains are all routed to their asses. As a rule, I stay away from feminazis as it always results in a completely fruitless interaction.

  131. Alexis says:

    @Elaine
    “Of course, I don’t check Facebook or other easy to manipulate social media like Linkedin!”

    Uh yeah, I know or at least I hoped lol. What you do still doesn’t tell you who a person is. I think the difference here is that we both have a different definition of the word “who”. See all that checking STILL wouldn’t tell me WHO he is. That tells me nothing of his character or his private behavior/conduct. To understand this one needs to get to know a person.

    “And don’t forget that normally weeks or months of communicating have passed before arriving at this point!”
    Months? Seriously? lol all I can say is wow.

    “As I always do this, I always first check identity, and what they eventually have to loose and are risking, in case there would be any problems.
    So, no female games or chess, but personal safety measures.”
    What you just described, I define as chess. Also, going to other countries I would define as unsafe.

    It’s all good though. We can just agree to disagree. :)

  132. Josh says:

    Alexis says:
    September 1, 2014 at 2:17 pm
    “For if the feminists are repressed and beaten…your lifestyle as you know it would end as well. No more SA…no more SA blog for you either”

    “There wouldn’t really be a need for a place like this if feminism was ended.”

    There’s neither a “need” for such existence nor is it desirable. It’s an unfortunate consequence of a feminism.

    I am not confident at all that feminism can be eradicated or even curtailed. Have you ever tried to “discuss” cause and effect with a feminist? 😉

  133. Elaine says:

    @ Alexis

    Now you really sound a bit naive….

    “Verifying is a false sense of security. IMHO nothing is more dangerous than a false sense of security. You don’t “know” someone because you verify them. They could be using someone else’s identity or they may not even have a record yet; meanwhile, there are 14 people buried in their basement. You just never know, so all you can do is watch the actions.”

    Of course, I don’t check Facebook or other easy to manipulate social media like Linkedin!
    I use Google image search, Tineye, Bloomberg and Forbes etc…
    As because my “target” SD is a businessman, businessowner, investor or CEO, he is always present on internet with pictures, interviews and video’s.

    If not, for me it is a red flag and I don’t continue the acquintenance.
    If yes, we speak on Skype for a doublecheck, and if we both still want to meet we exchange the data needed to buy me tickets, and I want a copy of confermations made, booked by him, with his creditcard and on my name.

    And don’t forget that normally weeks or months of communicating have passed before arriving at this point!

    “As for traveling “abroad”, I would never do this. I have zero interest in ending up as part of the slave trade. I thought you meant interstate travel only.”

    As I always do this, I always first check identity, and what they eventually have to loose and are risking, in case there would be any problems.
    So, no female games or chess, but personal safety measures.

    Got it now?

  134. Josh says:

    I did not pay too much attention to the nuances of the sentence.

    @Kms2014, did she know him long enough for him to convince her to be a gynecologist?

    Did she not love children outside of him feeding her such love?

    I have many more questions… 😉

  135. Alexis says:

    “For if the feminists are repressed and beaten…your lifestyle as you know it would end as well. No more SA…no more SA blog for you either”

    There wouldn’t really be a need for a place like this if feminism was ended.

  136. Kms2014 says:

    Gold-digging men should be called something else, though…does have a silly ring to it….

  137. Kms2014 says:

    I’m glad my posts are funny to someone 😉 they are pretty boring most times, hehe.

  138. Alexis says:

    “No Josh, the gold digging man that married the gynecologist ‘fed’ into her love of children(thus, why she became a gynocologist in first place)…”

    That sentence is hilarious in so many ways.

  139. Josh says:

    And come to think of it, if I turned into a Muslim and took up 4 baby churning wives/SBs I would be fine with that as well. LOL!

    Just “kidding” of course… 😉

    Not that I hope that anything like that happens, but the way the common law is hijacked by women and liberals, they may not have much choice.

  140. Jacob says:

    That’s why we all need to pitch in and find our horizontal dance partners for celebrating Agnostic Reproductivism. It’s literally a numbers game. If we want our children to enjoy an open society, we need to give them the numbers to defend such a society.

  141. Josh says:

    The reason I am here at SA is because the traditional relationships don’t work BECAUSE of the women-serving laws and women-induced sabotage. So don’t blame me for the women’s muck up.

    Also, by the time feminists poyentially get disciplined by Islamic police (God forbid) I will be dust to dust. 😉

  142. Alexis says:

    @Elaine
    Verifying is a false sense of security. IMHO nothing is more dangerous than a false sense of security. You don’t “know” someone because you verify them. They could be using someone else’s identity or they may not even have a record yet; meanwhile, there are 14 people buried in their basement. You just never know, so all you can do is watch the actions.

    As for traveling “abroad”, I would never do this. I have zero interest in ending up as part of the slave trade. I thought you meant interstate travel only.

    The only way you get to “know” someone is by taking the time to do so. Even then you really never know anybody until you live with them for a group of years and that usually isn’t an option in sugaring… thankfully, as I hate people invading my living space.

  143. Kms2014 says:

    For if the feminists are repressed and beaten…your lifestyle as you know it would end as well. No more SA…no more SA blog for you either 😉

  144. Kms2014 says:

    That is not funny….

  145. Josh says:

    “It is entirely possible that Western Europe might become an Islam-dominated continent within the next few generations”

    It would be “interesting” to “see” feminists protesting from under the mini-tent burqas, and Islamic sharia police hitting the legs, butts and back with thin cane to disperse them. LOL!

  146. Jacob says:

    “6. End of western civilization as more patriarchal civilizations “may” overtake it through child birth and keeping their women and children under check.”

    Interesting point. I do suspect some of that is taking place. In both Europe and North America, the traditionalist families are far out-reproducing the post-modernists. It is entirely possible that Western Europe might become an Islam-dominated continent within the next few generations, just like how Christianity took over Mediterranean in the late Roman period of high taxation high welfare and collapse of reproductivity. I think it’s time for Agnostic Reproductivism to forestall the coming of a new Dark Age! Man up! The new bucket challenge! LOL.

  147. Jacob says:

    LOL, that was a sugar-mommy-and-her-project relationship, all right. The gynecologist may have had abandonment anxieties and now she found a man who would never abandon her because she is where his bread comes from (never mind getting buttered); he might be good looking and remind her of some high school hot shot that spent all his time preening and looking cool instead of studying. Oh well, so long as it makes her happy. I do wonder how long those relationships last, and what happens when they end. In the low-income strata of the society, it is becoming gradually common place for a woman to be supporting a slightly younger man; it fits the employment picture in the lower income scale: the young unskilled male population has very high unemployment rate, much higher than the corresponding female demographic, which also happens to be better educated than their young male counter-parts. My guess is that such partnership is likely to face significant hardship and hardship for their children (certain aspects of child caring simply requires mother because it’s impossible for the father to do). If the welfare queen precedence is anything to go by, at some point the woman will be tired of the free-loader, yet unable to find significantly better replacement for a worthy partner; male children born into such a partnership would have very high truancy and crime rate due to lack of proper male role model or supervision.

  148. “How many wives simultaneously complain to their husbands that their husbands work too much, while spending every dime that they can?”

    Both are dumb.

    I’ve never had a checkbook to balance. I know how much money I have, and how much money I need for whatever expenses. I’ve only ever had one credit card. It had a $300 limit. Paid it off, and closed the account before another annual membership fee was assessed. I try to live within my means. A lot of people seem to buy into being credit card rich. Some earn more money just to buy more things, and find themselves no better off than they were before, in terms of savings. Anyway…that’s the American dream to some, I guess.

  149. Josh says:

    So for him she was the “meal ticket” and for her he was the project. She compensated her lack of physical desirability with shelling out cash, and looked the other way.

    I covered that in #1 and #2.

    Next question for “Dear Josh” please? 😉

  150. Kms2014 says:

    Gynecologist*

  151. Kms2014 says:

    No Josh, the gold digging man that married the gynecologist ‘fed’ into her love of children(thus, why she became a gynocologist in first place), by getting her pregnant. She wasn’t the prettiest lady in the world, but very intelligent…and this guy was an uneducated doofus, really. He would go out on vacations and cheat on her, repeatedly, and told my ex she was his ‘meal ticket’, so to speak. I don’t care what gender someone is, I cannot stand people who take advantage of others like that.

  152. Josh says:

    “He kept getting her pregnant to ‘seal the deal’, so to speak….He pretty much said as much….what do you call goldigging men?”

    Hmmm innocent by stander “gynecologist”, of all people, just kept “getting pregnant”? 😉

    “Kidding” aside I may call such men and more importantly phenomenon many things depending upon the use of the scenario in a particular analysis.

    1. Gold digging man.

    2. A project for the highly educated and financially well off woman.

    3. Beginning of things to be as women start making more money–and unless the laws are changed drastically–men don’t have much incentive to work. Certain demographics of people are already living under state-women nexus where men just crash in houses provided to women by the state for years after years after years.

    4. A good number of such men will cause women to revolt against current women-serving laws because the pendulum will then be way against their perceived welfare.

    5. Huge marketplace for robots as women can’t do shit when it comes to certain work needs to be done to keep human support system going.

    6. End of western civilization as more patriarchal civilizations “may” overtake it through child birth and keeping their women and children under check.

    7. Etc., etc., etc.

  153. Kms2014 says:

    “Men and women are dumb in different ways. On this issue, I think men are on average less dumb than women. How many wives simultaneously complain to their husbands that their husbands work too much, while spending every dime that they can?”

    Hmm, I disagree. Perhaps, this isn’t the norm, but my mother told me that when her and my father first married, my dad made a decent salary but would always run out of money before his next paycheck, every-time. She said he even started borrowing money from his relative….she was a few years younger than him, and did not have an engineering degree or any college degree for that matter. However, she told him to let her balance the checkbook from then on. He never had to borrow money or ran out if money again. My father is engineering math smart and book smart, but horrible with accounting. My mother wasn’t the best at a calculus but possessed great common sense and could balance a
    checkbook like no other 😉 That is why one person, whether wife or husband is usually put in charge of that, since sometimes one is the spendthrift and the other the saver. Don’t think this is gender specific as my ex fiancée couldn’t stand not to spend the last dime in his pocket, hehe.

  154. Elaine says:

    @ Alexis

    “If a certain Google exec would have done some homework he would probably still be alive….”
    I’m not too familiar with the story, but my guess is he did something he probably should not have done in the situation like be alone in a room (hehe) with someone he didn’t know or drink/drug during his encounter.”

    He was murdered by his SB, that has done something similar before…..

    “Imagine what could happening, alone in a room with someone you don’t know!”
    I’m not going to BE alone in a room with someone I don’t know. Seriously, you do that? Please be more careful”

    Well I am NEVER going to be alone in a room with someone I don’t know because I verify my pots, but it was you saying something that sounded like it would be normal to do so: (BTW it also sounded escort’ish, and escorts would verify!)
    “I really don’t feel it’s necessary for either party to “verify” the other. To me it seems simplistic. The SD either provides money or he does not. The SB either supplies “entertainment” or she does not – end of story”

    “And especially in case of LD arrangements.
    I am not going to jump on no plane without knowing exactly who I am going to meet, and what he has to loose by eventual misbehaving!”
    In other words knowing his weaknesses? Yikes! I’m just not up for this type of chess play. It’s why I got away from women, so I certainly don’t want to play it with men lol. !

    No dear, this is not female games or chessplay, this is common sense!
    If you are travelling abroad to meet a person you have never met before, knowing he has reputation or relationship to lose is a only a safety measure.

    “I see absolutely no problem with jumping on a plane as long as said plane fare (round-trip) and hotel were fully covered. Actually that sounds really interesting and fun to me”

    It IS interesting and fun, but if you don’t verify the person, it can also be very dangerous. Even if planetickets and hotel are covered. (which of course they are!)

  155. 42SWM says:

    Absolutely agree that money isn’t everything. Money isn’t even a majority of the important things. Money is ultimately only a tool. However, we all have to live within the aggregate trade-offs of our decisions and money is a the currency for many of those trade-offs (money, time and love). As I get older, my impression is that young people are increasingly unable or unwilling to recognize the inherent trade-offs of money. They don’t want to be slaves to their jobs, but they don’t want to be denied (or even delayed in receiving) the things that they want. So people push their finances to the limit, and when something goes wrong, the deck of cards comes crashing down.

    Men and women are dumb in different ways. On this issue, I think men are on average less dumb than women. How many wives simultaneously complain to their husbands that their husbands work too much, while spending every dime that they can?

    So yes, money isn’t everything. Unfortunately, many people who say that end up forcing money to become more important than it otherwise would be.

  156. Jacob says:

    The lawn mower and the mechanic obviously have some qualities that their respective wives admire; or the girls wouldn’t be staying with them. The man making half what his IT girl wife makes would be well advised to stop feeling butt hurt. LOL.

  157. Elaine says:

    @ Josh

    “Has anyone received a photo retouching offer on their blog email id”

    Is this serious or did I miss something??

  158. Kms2014 says:

    These are just my observations, of course! I don’t know s–t about marriage, or how to handle it because mine didn’t work out and am not interested in it anymore, at this time. Just my ‘theories’, hehe.

  159. Kms2014 says:

    @Josh I used to know a ‘landscaper’ through my ex fiancée. He mainly just mowed lawns and goofed off, but he married a gynocologist, due to her career and money earning potential. He kept getting her pregnant to ‘seal the deal’, so to speak….He pretty much said as much….what do you call goldigging men?

    @42, that is true…have heard of couples that sit down and discuss who should quit work, if one parent decides to stay home after they have children, and what makes more sense. If one spouse makes more than the other and bills have to be paid, then it is what it is….probably not a good idea to talk about it too often, though. My friend was an IT girl and very good at her job…she made twice as much as her husband and it really bothered him. So, you have some men that will be make goldiggers and then other men who feel a bot emasculated if their wife earns more? Different people….

  160. Jacob says:

    I wonder if any husband gets upset when the wife tells him she is prettier and more attractive than he is. LOL. Salaries and pay are just what the society/market decides what is more in demand.

    @Josh
    Poverty actually does keep many marriages together through lack of other options: can’t afford to divorce and maintain two households. Sometimes the couple recover from the rough patch; sometimes they don’t and stay together miserably for decades or until the kids leave the house.

  161. Kms2014 says:

    Dietitians make pretty decent in US, I think…do not know any personally. Money isn’t everything 😉 Having enough is fine, if someone is happy and content. A dietician and teacher would live a comfortable middle class existence. Never wealthy, but maybe happy….like the nurse and her mechanic husband down the street who doesn’t earn much. I wonder if she ever makes him feel ‘small’ because he earns less than her, hehe 😉

  162. Kms2014 says:

    @Josh, you said she was a dietician…look at the accreditation a of dietitians…it isn’t some weekend cram course or cheap degree to obtain. Like I said, I did not read your article.

    It just irks me a bit when men, or women, act like their career is more important, due to the higher salary it earns. Even if it is, if you make the other person feel that way, it will breed resentment. Both partners should be supportive and work together…not what is ‘mine’ and ‘hers’.

  163. Josh says:

    Dietitian meets teacher. Falls in love. Struggles all her life, through thick and thin, together with her love.

    Total respect for such honorable woman. 😉

  164. Jacob says:

    I look down on the girl when I’m in missionary position; look up at the girl when she is riding me cowgirl style . . . what was your question again? LOL.

    I wouldn’t mind my partner to be a teacher, dietician or wall street analyst. Have not dated any female hedge fund trader or manager yet although there is a 28yo go-getter in my waiting list on a different site. Whatever income “she” makes is irrelevant to me, as I should be able to bring enough for both. What she should bring are other qualities that I do not have.

  165. Kms2014 says:

    @jacob…you make a point, but found it interesting and a pleasant surprise that teachers make much more, in certain countries overseas, and have a potential to increase their salaries more substantially(both public and private), in the long run. School funds for teacher salaries, teachers doing the job of two teachers now, classroom sizes(increased), book, essentials….those things are not ‘cut’ there like they are, in US, generally. The US should get it priorities straight, in public education.

    Healthcare in many countries overseas, or any job related to healthcare is much less–true.

  166. Josh says:

    @Kms2014,

    You seem to have a PhD in coming up with extreme scenarios that generally don’t exist. Put that degree to good use, OK. LOL!

    The PR article I referred to is a marketing pitch to sell a $149 divorce settlement software. I could be wrong, but that software is being pitched to middle class couples.

    So I assumed that though hypothetical, the article hit on salient issues in divorce settlements for a sizable audience.

  167. 42SWM says:

    KMS, I had precisely that kind of discussion with my ex-wife when we were still married. Plenty of respect for her on my end, but when I tried to explain the difference between importance in a general sense vs. financial importance to us as a family, she did NOT like it. My career was no more important than hers, but in terms of what allowed us to live as we did, her career was irrelevant.

  168. Kms2014 says:

    I wonder if men look down on women, who work really hard at their careers, but will never get ‘rich’ at them monetarily. Teachers and dietitians may never make six figures, but does that mean their careers are less important than some greedy dodgy hedge fund manager? I have been in both career settings are more often than not, people with good character are not in finance. Would marry a kind hearted male teacher over a sleazy managing director at investment firm…but, am generalizing and talking character here…not inviting a discussion on salaries and long term investing 😉

  169. Jacob says:

    They are in the “fly-over” country, where money are worth about twice as much as on the two coasts. i.e. their nominal income are about half what the same jobs would make in California or the NY-DC-Boston corridor. OTOH, their expenses are lot lower too.

  170. Kms2014 says:

    Is being a dietician not respectable, though? I used to want to be a nutritionist/dietician many many years ago before I started college, but hated chemistry. Dietitians have to go to university for four years and oftentimes have a master’s degree, or need to have one….I don’t think she was slagging off, if she had that degree and qualification…if they work at a hospital, was under the assumption that they earned more than $30,000 a year? Maybe, that is starting salary? I haven’t read the article you are referencing, though. Was interested because you mentioned dietician.

  171. Josh says:

    @Alexis,

    The nuances of “interesting” female behavior are swept under the politically correct carpet in the public discourse in the western world because women are mighty powerful interest group with the voting power to decide the next election. :)

  172. Jacob says:

    5x income differential between two people both already settled in their careers (as opposed to say one still being a student) is significant gradient between the two. That being said, I don’t see anything wrong with women trying to marry or otherwise secure someone who makes much more than herself, so that her children can be well provided for. She is just being a responsible mother with good maternal instincts.

    The same instincts OTOH would also drive her to get as much out of the man as possible when the marriage/relationship ends. That is not her fault either, just her biological drive. It is the society’s responsibility, and more importantly the man’s responsibility, to set up the framework under which her subjective maximization for herself would indeed lead to long term benefit to her children, herself and the man (i.e. “the family” that will still exist beyond the nominal end in legal terms), instead of the proverbial burning fine furniture and the library as firewood.

    In a union that involve a lot of assets, she will also have a lot of friends, relatives and lawyers pressuring her to take as much as possible so those “advisers” would get a slice of the spoils. Not many (if any) women can really stand up to those adverse influence/pressurre. That’s why it is important to set the framework early so that she would not be handling a loaded gun aimed at your head via marriage; and women with loser friends mooching off her for advisers should be rejected early.

  173. Josh says:

    @Kms2014,

    I agree with you in principle.

    That said, we don’t know what “assets” she was working with, but increasing one’s household income five folds, after screwing around for thirty years in one’s life, is not a trivial feat. 😉

    I bet that this hypothetical dentist had to go pretty much non-stop making grades from school to school to school to end up with $150,000 income. Not the greatest income for a competent dentist but relatively-speaking, he’s among the top actively working earners in the world.

  174. Alexis says:

    “Has anyone received a photo retouching offer on their blog email id?”

    No…
    In fact SA has generated zero spam into my email.

  175. Alexis says:

    “I don’t agree on this verification thing.”
    Ok lol

    “If a certain Google exec would have done some homework he would probably still be alive….”
    I’m not too familiar with the story, but my guess is he did something he probably should not have done in the situation like be alone in a room (hehe) with someone he didn’t know or drink/drug during his encounter.

    “Imagine what could happening, alone in a room with someone you don’t know!”
    I’m not going to BE alone in a room with someone I don’t know. Seriously, you do that? Please be more careful.

    “And especially in case of LD arrangements.
    I am not going to jump on no plane without knowing exactly who I am going to meet, and what he has to loose by eventual misbehaving!”
    In other words knowing his weaknesses? Yikes! I’m just not up for this type of chess play. It’s why I got away from women, so I certainly don’t want to play it with men lol. I see absolutely no problem with jumping on a plane as long as said plane fare (round-trip) and hotel were fully covered. Actually that sounds really interesting and fun to me!

  176. Kms2014 says:

    I wouldn’t say landing a dentist is golddigging…depends on how what type of procedures they do at their practice and where it is located(how many patients). Have a couple of dentists in my family(one old and one young)and would NOT categorize them as all that wealthy… 😉

  177. Josh says:

    @All,

    Has anyone received a photo retouching offer on their blog email id?

  178. Josh says:

    @Jacob,

    Yes I do know that it is a marketing piece, but I am sure that regardless of level financial assets involved, out of court settlements use concepts of “fairness”, “quality of life”, “marital assets”, “welfare” of parties, etc.

  179. Jacob says:

    * I was talking about the Forbes article that Josh mentioned, not the blog article.

  180. Jacob says:

    @Josh
    The article is a marketing piece written by the head of a software company that is trying to selling the $149 software to clueless semi-housewives. If the hapless dentist is believing this formula, he is unwittingly underwriting a huge disability insurance on himself: a disability insurance that guarantees his $150k a year income for 20-30yrs covering all accidents and illness would have very large monthly premium if available at all. Without such an insurance, he is one accident/illness/addiction/break-down away from being tossed into jail.

    Child support and college expense are fair (the latter being something that the or colleges will demand from him anyway). It’s ridiculous to push for the two divorced parties with such disparate incomes to have comparable discretionary income after divorce; most married couple would wish for such guarantee on discretionary income while staying married! The husband should also push for “maintaining previous level of living standards” in terms of sex, cooking, laundry and house cleaning from the wife who obviously works a lot less. LOL. Most courts only grant alimony for a duration comparable to half the length of marriage. The 45yo and 38yo have not been married for 54 years to warrant a 27-year alimony.

    More importantly, the husband needs to increase his income and return on his investments. In order to maintain post-marriage bliss (or at least peace), he needs to have ever increasing income and be able to give his ex-wife more than what the divorce decree mandates (all the more reason why he should not give away the shop in the divorce decree). Generating only 3% return on his $700k investment is absurdly low; he needs to do better, stop pussy-footing around.

    BTW, the “pre-package divorce” that I mentioned earlier was not a divorce after marriage per se, but going from dating directly to a “divorce”-like arrangement, shunting out the marriage part altogether. The above-mentioned dentist has little asset and little return on investment; the couple are dickering over the dentist’s hand-to-mouth (pun intended) subsistence earnings. For people with significant assets and high return on investment, a standard divorce would be a major headache and transferring assets from the one who can manage it for high return into hands that like not able to, much to the detriment of the “family” overall.

  181. Elaine says:

    @ Alexis

    I don’t agree on this verification thing.

    If a certain Google exec would have done some homework he would probably still be alive….

    Same for SBs, just check internet for the horrorstories of incountering pervs.

    Imagine what could happening, alone in a room with someone you don’t know!
    Even an escort would check your identity, and they have much more practical experience with identifying pot. dangers as most, especially young, SBs …

    And especially in case of LD arrangements.
    I am not going to jump on no plane without knowing exactly who I am going to meet, and what he has to loose by eventual misbehaving!

  182. Alexis says:

    Alimony should be eradicated. It’s an antiquated ideology that is no longer relevant in today’s world.

    Phone discretion? … I always just get prepaid cells to deal with sugaring. It’s a lot easier and more simplistic than juggling lagging apps.

    I really don’t feel it’s necessary for either party to “verify” the other. To me it seems simplistic. The SD either provides money or he does not. The SB either supplies “entertainment” or she does not – end of story.

    BTW, can someone PLEASE fix the search feature on the new version? It’s a piece of crap, thanks.

  183. Elaine says:

    @ Josh

    Make sense those posts!

    Think I should have married and divorced an US citizen ….. 😉

    Joking apart, what kind of woman (or man!) has so low selfesteem to be willing to be financially dependent of an ex partner?!

    In most cases alimony for an ex partner is not out of this world anymore….

  184. Josh says:

    And when did paying for college become parents responsibility?

    If I had kids they would either be working their asses off to get scholarships or borrow it or work through college. 😉

  185. Josh says:

    That’s what I wanna know, Mr. Cool-Looking President. When did cell phone or any phone for that matter became a necessity? I’d say $1 in a phone card and a phone booth “may” be a necessity.

  186. Josh,

    If Obama has a plan for free cell phones, so should you. You are, in fact, one of the founding fathers and presidents of sugar. It’s the diplomatic thing to do, dear.

  187. Josh says:

    @yougottabeleavingmycellphonealonealright!

    This is just a sliver of what goes on here on SA.

    Of course the flip side is the stories of “creepy” SD s expecting SBs to potentially do for them when they are in an arrangement. 😉

    But those suggestions are NEVER premised with, “hey, I want you to do XYZ for me for free.” In reality, the creepier the sexual fantasy, the more the man is willing to offer because the supply and demand for SBs willing to undertake “creepy” stuff is not in the man’s favor.

  188. Josh says:

    @Jacob

    “Under current laws and family court precedences, pre-packaged divorce with child support is the correct LTR model for maintaining proper power balance in the “family,” if you can afford it.”

    I don’t have much problem with the child support. My beef is with the alimony. The flip side is that divorce cases after divorce cases where women’s incomes and assets are in millions, the divorced husband does not get nearly as much money as the wife of an equally rich man does.

    While the laws and the court decisions remain what they are men need to get out of the business of making rich ex-wives even if the reason for divorce were infidelity.

    It is established, within the current laws, that a wife does not have to put out if she did not want to, as the husband does not “own” her. Therefore, the wife does not “own” her husband either.

    If she does not like what he’s doing, fair enough. Leave with the appropriate child support AND possibly any income she lost for the years she was tending to her children.

    The current laws not only give women almost half of the assets but also a good portion of man’s future income. WTF!

  189. Hahahahaha!

    Please, Josh, give me your cell phone!

    Oh the hurt of laughter!!!

  190. Josh says:

    The following is a real initial exchange aka small talk conveyed to my by an active SD on SA. 😉

    SD: Do you want my cell phone dear? [Asking if she would like his cell phone number to coordinate the initial meeting. ]

    SB: I would like a cell phone.

    SD: WTF! [Is she expecting me to give her my cell phone before we have even exchanged our phone numbers?]

  191. Josh says:

    *Currently if I visit a profile multiple times because I wanted to check out something I did not earlier, the system is going to spit out a notification to her each and every time. How about limiting such notifications to once a day or a reasonable interval, like every 4-6 hours?

  192. Josh says:

    New interface is generally good. Many thanks to the virtual outsourced programming team in India or a former soviet country. 😉

    The not so cool features are the requirement that I must visit a profile to block it. Some profiles show up again and again in my search but i am not interested for whatever reason.

    So by the time I block the profile a message has bee issued to the SB that I visited her profile.

    Also, what’s up with sending notification to the SB that this SD has visited her profile 4 times in 4 minutes?

    Currently if I visit a profile multiple times because I wanted to check out something I did not earlier. How about limiting such notifications to once a day?

  193. Jacob says:

    Under current laws and family court precedences, pre-packaged divorce with child support is the correct LTR model for maintaining proper power balance in the “family,” if you can afford it.

  194. Jacob says:

    LOL. Successful LTR requires the woman to look up to the man, and requires the man to exceed the woman’s expectations constantly(“what have you done for me lately?”). The latter is impossible if she is already entitled to half of whatever he earns as incentive to quit on him. It’s also a lot easier for her to show off to her friends when the contest is not on how much each wife is emasculating her husband, but how much more her ex-husband is doing for her compared to other ex-husbands for their ex-wives. Also, having husband seen by a neighbor in the mall with some 22yo girl is humiliating to the wife (not that I ever did that sort of thing to my ex-wife while married as I stayed faithful during the entire marriage); ex-husband bringing a 22yo to pick up the kid and seen by a neighbor is actually validation for the ex-wife: see, I really had/have a great guy who is still in my life even after divorcing and pulling a much younger chick!

  195. Josh says:

    LTR with a woman primarily means one thing. Give her the firsthand “validation” of why she resents you to the extent she does.

    Some women are motivationless enough to carry on with the men they resent, and we call it successful relationship.

    The rest are motivated enough to sabotage the current relationship to find another man to gather reasons to resent him. 😉

  196. Jacob says:

    @gtt
    Good for you. The romps probably make your existing LTR happier too, by periodically giving you the validation that you need and vicariously the validation that she needs, so that she can continue to feel that she is shacking a high value man. I learned that exclusive LTR becomes extremely emasculating to the man and ironically making the woman in the relationship unhappy too after she makes pate with his balls. I’m limiting my future LTR’s to two parts:

    1. a few years of sexual exclusivity with me in order to make and raise a baby or two;
    2. continued long term relationship with my assets and support, but not me sexually or exclusively. I will continue to make sure that she and the baby are well taken care of, better than she would have gotten if she had dated or married someone else in those same few years. But both parties are free and independent to pursue sexual validation from somewhere else.

  197. Re Hushed…

    Yep, lag time for sure. Not very good for chat texting as by the time your text registers, it’s sometimes out of sequence and sometimes out of context, so corrections and clarifications are sometimes necessary. Kind of feels like having dial up Internet service. Nothing worse than commenting on one thing and having it apply to a comment made after you you’d already replied, and then having to recant. Ha…sorry, daddy. I, too, bought the biggest package, ya know…for all the big balling golden tipped daddies I plan to reel in.

    [crickets]

    [clears throat]

    K. Back to my weekend. Hope it’s been a pleasant one for everyone. Cheers cheers :).

  198. “For me playfulness is more important than young age, per se. But it seems that playfulness is kinda sorta related with age, with notable exceptions of course.

    So give me a playful woman of any age. I am game.”

    I like that. Much agree in the sense that youth is a state of mind. I wouldn’t mind at all dating an older guy with a youthful spirit.

  199. Josh says:

    Thanks gtt_envy,

    I will check them out. As far as “veryfying” SBs, I have no use for such SBs in my life. So I will not miss anything.

    My phone locks as soon as screen goes blank or if I push a certain button. It is pain in the ass entering the pin every single time I want to use the phone. But I am cool with that.

    One SB wanted to use my phone, I refused. End of story. She did not make too much of it. Neither did I. 😉

    As far as work phone, I WILL NOT use work phone ever regardless of what kind of “behavior” I am into.

  200. Josh says:

    @Carmen

    I hear you. Different strokes for different folks I guess.

    For me playfulness is more important than young age, per se. But it seems that playfulness is kinda sorta related with age, with notable exceptions of course.

    So give me a playful woman of any age. I am game.

    I can give you example/s from the blog but then some wise fuck will ask me to go make an arrangement with her. LOL!

  201. gtt_envy says:

    I like burner better than hushed anyway and often. I set a precedence that I don’t like engaging in this behavior on a phone paid for by “work”, so KIK usually works fine.

  202. gtt_envy says:

    Are you using it just for messaging or calls too? I recommend KIK 😉 you can send pics, videos, etc.

    I use a app like Hushed to make calls, so my true number isn’t on display.

    The issue is for a savvy SB who is into verifying everything (I haven’t met one yet just on this blog lol) they can check and see if the number is a VOIP number or not.

  203. Josh says:

    @Kirsten

    SA has been promoting Hushed. I bought the service because of you guys marketing it. I was not awarenof it outside of SA marketing it.

    Would you please follow up with the Hushed folks and find a fix for the delay.

    I had suggested it to my brother who stopped using it after his minutes ran out. He did not care for the delay in delivery.

    I bought a big ass package, and I am stuck with it. :(

  204. Josh says:

    Question for those using Hushed, has it been reliable for you?

    I seems that sometimes it lags tens of minutes; sending as well as receiving.

    Any more reliable alternatives?

  205. Carmen says:

    @Elaine

    Clearly youth is not the only asset female sugar babies have because if that were the case I would be sugarless since I am officially out of my 20’s. Of course there will always be those men that only value a woman based on her youth and beauty but who wants to mess around with a shallow person like that? Certainly not me! I like a quality man who values a woman based on more than just her appearance, just like I don’t value a man only based on the size of his wallet.

  206. gtt_envy says:

    @Elaine, youth isn’t the only asset, but in sugar it’s often the most important one, at least for me. My LTR is awesome, we get along awesome, have great sex, toys, travel, she volunteers in 3rd world countries great heart and great person. My interest in sugar is YOUTH and those first time smiles and surprises. I’m not looking to spoil someone my LTR’s age late 30’s, so for me 20-22 is perfect.

    Jacob, I used to think I wanted a LTR, but I’m come to conclude I don’t. I just want 3-4 romps in the hay and that’s it. I get bored quickly it’s just the experience for me. Once those firsts are over I’m just not that interested.

    I’m sure that’s because I have that great LTR that meets all of my needs except that desire for youth and variety.

  207. Jacob says:

    BTW, “men, who obviously do want to sleep with a woman, but nothing more, who then lead her to believe, by actually saying or indirectly leading her to believe so, that he wants a long term relationship(which he has no intention)” is not nearly as generally applicable to all men. Most men nowadays quite explicitly exclude long term relationship before having sex. Most men on SA probably fit in that category in the context of SA. I only consider LTR as a future possibility for the right kind of women depending on her behavior after sex, never explicitly promising LTR before sex. That is in stark contrast to almost all women on SA and in normal walks of life having no qualms about receiving favors whenever offered. One is minority behavior pattern for men, the other is almost universal behavior pattern for women.

  208. Jacob says:

    Okay, here’s a hint: there is nothing innocent or fun about leading members of opposite sex on for whatever sociopathic gains. Inventing rationalizations such as men might enjoy doing something nice while not expecting anything (sex) in return (i.e. men might enjoy being taken advantage of) makes about as much sense as theorizing that women might enjoy being conned or raped. Exceptions do exist, but in general they are more fantasies of the perpetrators than that of the victims.

    I only cited what you wrote verbatim. Inability to see the prevalent psychological condition necessarily reflected by the concrete widespread behavior pattern that you correctly observed is not exactly my problem.

    Everyone have a nice long weekend indeed.

  209. Kms2014 says:

    My point was that men, who obviously do want to sleep with a woman, but nothing more, who then lead her to believe, by actually saying or indirectly leading her to believe so, that he wants a long term relationship(which he has no intention). Both sexes play games, or manipulate…or, it can be innocent and flirt for fun and nothing more. Men might enjoy doing something nice, while not expecting anything(sex), in return even, in some cases.

    I really haven’t read any of your theories that I agree with or respect. All of them seem shallow and far fetching. That is my right. As JJ has said before…please leave me out of your theories. Many thanks.

    Everyone have a nice Holiday weekend.

  210. Jacob says:

    The difference is that men can not pretend to like a woman enough to have an erection if he is genuinely turned off by the woman. There literally is no intercourse if the man does not like the woman, at least to some degree.

    Scamming and lacking loyalty are two quite different places in the spectrum of sociopathy. Scamming is a conscious pre-medidated effort (often a crime). Lacking loyalty is not a conscious effort apriori to the event, but lacking the agency for reciprocation after favors are given.

  211. Jacob says:

    @Josh,
    LOL, depends on what the woman does when her project (into whom she pours her youth and beauty) eventually dumps her. It’s part of human condition for thousands of years, as in the story of Medea and her project Jason.

  212. Kms2014 says:

    I look at things in a positive, half hearted way, in regards to relationships…SA or regular dating. Why read into things so much, unless it is the true ‘meat’ in life, in which most of these discussions on blog are not…at least, I they are not for people, or that is a bit sad. Don’t take oneself so seriously, hehe.

  213. Kms2014 says:

    What does women flirting in order to have an advantage, or get ahead occasionally have to do with loyalty? Men do a similar thing when they ‘pretend’ to like a woman, or tell her things he ‘thinks’ she wants to hear in order to get into her knickers, or something out of her? This is just the way it is, in life. Has nothing to do with loyalties. Your theories are nothing like mine 😉

  214. Josh says:

    *Josh not Joshu.

  215. Joshu says:

    “reciprocate”

    If women had developed “concepts”, would the concept of reciprocation even exist? 😉

  216. Jacob says:

    BTW, in the paragraph above, KMS also accurately observed the flip side of the exalted biological status of young women exercising their biological imperative: once the age of fertility is passed, the biological woman is entirely disposable just like men, except for the person’s capabilities outside the reproductive sphere.

  217. Jacob says:

    Loyalty at its most fundamental level is an internal urge to reciprocate past favors without expecting current/future repayment and without external social pressure such as threat of being ostracized. Men are bred and conditioned to fit that set of morality because men are fundamentally disposable from biological point of view. Women used to be forced to live under social pressure to follow the code of loyalty/fidelity (the risk of having to wear the scarlet letter and being shamed, being cut off from spousal support, etc.) but it is not her biological programming, which is to win as much freebies as possible from anyone and everyone. Narcissism is the female biological imperative just like it is for the children’s biological imperative while young, for a very good genetic reason: to ensure the next generation’s survival; self-sacrificing loyalty does not fit that imperative.

    ==============================================
    Kms2014 says:
    August 30, 2014 at 9:15 am

    ” I think the vast majority of potential SBs are perfectly willing to accept all sorts of gifts and allowance even if they have no intention of taking things to the next level with the SD.”

    @42…I think that is most women, in general..hehe, had friends from University…and other places in life that flirt, lead me on, whether it is to get into a venue free, or gain access to something…or receive gifts. Women use that little flirtatious trick until one day it no longer works…and that is sad day, hehe 😉
    ===============================================

  218. Kms2014 says:

    “As both KMS and I observed previously, the only people the typical woman is loyal to are herself and her children (and to a lesser degree other blood relatives)”

    What the uterus? I never observed, said or agreed with that…lol! I do not think that.

  219. Josh says:

    Sorry Jacob. My mistake. The one-liner requirements were from one SB and the $3-5k were from the other.

    I woukd never arrange with her because she does not meet my looks criteria. Has not lost her baby weight. 😉

    The second one does not have a child, is gorgeous but lives 1000 miles away. She is 25.

  220. Josh says:

    “As both KMS and I observed”

    Rodney King is happy now!

  221. Jacob says:

    @Josh
    Regarding the memo, just re-read your earlier post and noticed that she is already a single-mother. The fact that she still looking for almost all elements of sustenance after becoming a single-mother is indicative of very very bad decision making process. I’m afraid she is not getting my memo at any price point. I’m not interested in paying for someone other dude’s mistake, or making that dude’s life (with her??) easier.

  222. Josh says:

    “the only people the typical woman is loyal to are herself and her children (and to a lesser degree other blood relatives)”

    Jacob is drinking the stuff again. 😉

  223. Jacob says:

    @Elaine

    Youth is not the only asset a woman has. However, from the description in that cited profile, the only asset that particular woman has is her youth and beauty, as she seems to be asking for everything else. If that’s the only asset she has, and if some SD finds her current youth and beauty is worth $3-5k to him, it is mathematical certainty that her youth and beauty will decline over time in the future.

    BTW, Elaine, you do bring up a good point about what other assets the woman can bring in the long run. I thought long and hard about that issue before coming up with my Plan. As both KMS and I observed previously, the only people the typical woman is loyal to are herself and her children (and to a lesser degree other blood relatives). So in order for me to lay out the capital to put the woman in a trusted position where her long term maintenance will be sustainable (self-financing / self-liquidating) thanks to my capital, she will have to build her case for common cause with me genetically; I would be expecting her loyalty towards me only as a derivative result from her natural instinct to be loyal to her child. Otherwise, any association is essentially cash-and-carry only (even if monthly), and not many women are really worth my time in that way beyond a few weeks to months (a year or so at the most) because I’m not particularly fond of cash-and-carry.

  224. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    “why is it so hard for young SBs to find SDs? Let alone SDs willing to give them 3-5 k per month?”

    There can be all kinds of reasons from either side but few of the primary reasons from the SB’s side is that when dealing with men, women go into the obligatory Cosmo mode.

    That’s they start playing dating-like games as in how much time to wait before responding to SDs, whose sugar must flow first, trying to front-load man’s sugar, etc. 😉

    Another thing that SBs have no clue about is how to set their allowance expectations relative to what they are offering the SD in terms of looks, style, time, energy, and plain old return on investment.

    Also, as per their profiles, an amazing number of them are super duper “busy” doing God knows what–I guess primarily being online at SA and similar site OR preferably clocking hours at the $8 (minus tax) per hour jobs? 😉

  225. Josh says:

    @Jacob, that would be her wish, not yours. Also this particular coed is already 25, but hasn’t received your memo yet. 😉

  226. Elaine says:

    “$3-5k/mo forever? I’m fine with that if she stays 18-25 forever”

    And again we are back to the shortvisioned idea that youth is the only asset a woman brings into a sugar relationship….

    If tbat would be the case, then why is it so hard for young SBs to find SDs? Let alone SDs willing to give them 3-5 k per month?

  227. Jacob says:

    $3-5k/mo forever? I’m fine with that if she stays 18-25 forever. LOL. Either that or she needs to convince me to give her a baby before I lose interest in her diminishing-return proposition.

  228. Josh says:

    This 25 year-old has honesty fetish.

    “I am known to be to honest.(if I don’t like something you will know it) kind of honesty.”

    Do I really want to know what she does not like? My guess is that the axe is going to fall pretty ofen on none other than the SD.

    The SD cannot protest in the future as it was made plain in the profile. 😉

  229. Josh says:

    If the above coed does find a man willing to pay her $3-5k per month to meet 3 times, she would absolutely like to have it long terms…say forever? 😉

  230. Josh says:

    This is what a single mother wants, “Car, housing,school. Everything.”

    Why not? She has needs and gosh darn it she demands that her needs be met. 😉

    Now this one is a beautiful coad and wants, “I’m looking to meet 3 times a month (3-5k per month in allowance/support). I ask that you be honest, OVER 40 years old, reliable, have experience, and don’t play games. I would prefer finding someone long term to have a relationship with. I have zero tolerance for drama or stress.”

  231. Josh says:

    The other sides to consider is that he should count his blessings in that he did not marry her. Then he might have to pay child support as well as alimony. 😉

  232. Josh says:

    But of course, the self-serving legal mechanism will not allow the man to name the state as the party in the very case, or bring an independent case against the state.

  233. Josh says:

    That’s exactly what’s fucked up with the legal system. The state determines that if the child is not raised on this man’s dime then the state has to foot the bill. The state is a party to this decision. The guy should’ve sued the state.

  234. Josh says:

    SunShineOfYourUterusEnvy agreeing with Kms2014, that’s a good sign. 😉

  235. Jacob says:

    I actually don’t remember ever reading on the blog any young 20-something white female talking about her own sugaring success. Some perspective from such a young lady would actually be helpful.

  236. Jacob says:

    The guy might be expressing his willingness to explore the possibility of committing to sponsoring a child, not necessarily pledging commitment yet. Well established guys nowadays are actually quite vulnerable to being sperm-jacked. I sometimes express my willingness to consider counter party in co-parenting arrangement when dating women over the age of 26 or so. It is not an outright offer to her, yet anyway. I just don’t want her to get desperate and sperm-jack me and produce a child before she has made the proper preparations for incubating a baby, such as quitting smoking etc.. It’s a little like younger girls in normal dating and agreeing to sex being on the table; meaning she is not a prude, but does not mean she is necessarily putting out that very night. In sugaring context, of course, she is free to take as much time as she feels comfortable before entering into an arrangement that makes the man comfortable too 😉

  237. Jacob says:

    LOL. Have to agree with KMS that it’s not just the SB’s, but women in general, in terms of willingness to accept whatever favor is offered without ever feeling guilty about not reciprocating. It’s not really a reason to belittle women general or any specific person if you happen to run into one behaving like that. It is their biological programming; just like men are evolved to have a gluttony for sex, women are evolved to have a gluttony for freebies. Both are mechanisms for ensuring the propagation of their own genes (or more precisely, genes that fail to make the carrier behave in such ways were wiped out from the gene pool in earlier generations).

  238. Josh says:

    @Carmen,

    I am glad that it worked out for you and him. More successful sugar stories are good for this space.

  239. Carmen says:

    @Josh
    I actually did not expect anything from him at first and was willing to wait until we got to know each other better. He gave without my asking and without asking for anything in return several times. I think waiting a bit before the sugar flows on both sides is a good idea so you find a suitable match but if he wanted to show he was serious about me by gift giving I am not opposed to it. I think the fact the I had other suitors that I told him about (full disclosure) may have had something to do with his generosity so ensure I chose him but that’s just guess.

  240. Kms2014 says:

    ” I think the vast majority of potential SBs are perfectly willing to accept all sorts of gifts and allowance even if they have no intention of taking things to the next level with the SD.”

    @42…I think that is most women, in general..hehe, had friends from University…and other places in life that flirt, lead me on, whether it is to get into a venue free, or gain access to something…or receive gifts. Women use that little flirtatious trick until one day it no longer works…and that is sad day, hehe 😉

    But, with all due respect….do not think 10-15% is the true average of success of using my method. What I described is how I have approached my arrangements…and they
    worked out for us. Old arrangements have come back to me because they sometimes end up with someone else that makes them feel like an ATM, or awkward(like being with escort), and they say I never made them feel that way. To each their own, but eventually someone has to trust the other person, first.

  241. Josh says:

    An SB’s time, making $8 (minus tax) per hour, turns into hundreds of dollars per hour even when no sex is involved. Simply magical, out of this world. 😉

  242. 42SWM says:

    There is a difference between having a feel of everything flowing naturally and everything flowing naturally. Given that many SD/SB pairing would never happen in a truly natural way but for sugar, what you are really getting at is a certain “feel”. While I wish things worked differently, the approach KMS discusses only succeeds with maybe 10%-15% of the potential SB’s out there. As a gentleman, I have on two occasions slowed things down with a potential SB because I wasn’t convinced that they were the kind of ladies I wanted to spend time with and pay and allowance to. I think the vast majority of potential SBs are perfectly willing to accept all sorts of gifts and allowance even if they have no intention of taking things to the next level with the SD.

    So how can a SD avoid being taken advantage of while still be relatively chivalrous and not settling for a transactional-type arrangement?

    (1) Be willing to spend a lot of time weeding out SB’s, including a lot of first meets that never lead to a second meet. This is highly inefficient. I was very lucky early, and didn’t appreciate it at the time.

    (2) Define in a detailed way what you are looking for, and specifically discuss a transition process from a first meet to a steady-state end goal arrangement. This can be efficient, but wow does it feels even more transactional. Essentially this is a due diligence period with incrementally escalating sugar on both ends. Yes, this sounds more like a business transaction than even prostitution. Using a transaction process to achieve a non-transactional outcome isn’t particularly satisfying.

    (3) Have third party sources (like an SA blog) help SDs and SBs alike in trying to create these kind of higher-level relationships. I wish SA had a blog describing different types of sugar relationships so that my profile could say I am looking for type “X”. I understand why they don’t, as a couple of categories would be too close to violations of prostitution laws.

    (4) “Sell out” and settle for less than what you are truly seeking.

    Of the (4) options, (1) is the least bad in my view given that (3) isn’t going to happen. I do however wish my luck of the draw would get back to what it was.

    My experience is that quite a few otherwise pretty nice SBs kind of lose their minds when a naturally generous and chivalrous SD crosses their path. Even though they are generally appreciative and happy to find such a diamond in the rough, they seem unable to see how easily it is to kill off the golden goods. The escalation of their wants has no relationship to the alleged mutuality of the arrangement. When reminded of the nature of mutuality, many quickly get back to sanity, but I would rather deal with a SB who doesn’t need such reminders.

    Sugar relationships are great examples of game theory (i.e. prisoner’s dilemma) and the inherent nature of such things is in fact a race to the bottom. It requires both people to be dedicated to pursuing the positive outcome.

  243. Kms2014 says:

    That is very true, Josh…how can anyone discuss such intimate terms without meeting, or at least seeing each other on Skype, first to know if they even like each other? When a man ever did similar thing to me, then would screen the same way.

    I especially don’t understand how someone can want me to have their baby without meeting me, first, lol! I think someone played a prank on me with those messages, hehe.

  244. Josh says:

    @Carmen

    It’s classical indeed. The man has to go out on the limb to hope to get a reciprocating SB.

    Been there done that many times over. The more non-risking approach would be that neither him nor you expect anything from each other while you are building trust. But that is NEVER an option SBs want to explore. 😉

  245. Elaine says:

    @ Thanks Carmen, you got it girl! 😉

  246. Josh says:

    @Kms2014,

    Agreed. That’s why I NEVER want to talk money or other terms of the agreement on text or phone because until I meet her I have no idea exactly how much I want her in my life in any capacity whatsoever.

    So those who start talking like this automatically screen themselves out. 😉

    And @Elaine, I don’t agree with you about “what it is”.

  247. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    “And hey! “the next old fool” ???
    Did you just reveal something involuntarily?”

    Absolutely, there is no mystery there. I am ALWAYS the old fool in front of the SB I am talking to. LOL!

  248. Carmen says:

    I agree with Elaine. Treating it like a business sucks the fun out of it. Then it’s all about the money and not so much the relationship and chemistry between the two of you. My SD gave several small gifts before I let my sugar flow and the fact that he did this really helped me to trust that he is a great guy that I wanted to pursue a relationship with. Now the sugar flows freely both ways and we are both very content :)

  249. Kms2014 says:

    Why does everyone have to talk and treat it like such business…just let everything flow and happen naturally, while being very upfront about what each other wants. Really? Before people even meet, or know if they have chemistry, then they are going to talk about ‘how much’ and how long before ‘sugar flows’. Yuk.

  250. Elaine says:

    “It’s a cardinal rule of man-women relationship, any money paid in advance is gone forever.”

    I don’t agree on this with you.
    It is the same vicious “lack of trust” circle we have been talking about before…
    As long as neither SB, nor SD, makes a first step to show their trust, a lot of potential good matches will be lost on beforehand.

    Of course I am talking about Sugar now, not about p4p which is a form of prostitution*.
    Here it is absolutely normal the “SB” wants to get her “allowance” before her panties hit the floor!
    (*No offense, I have nothing against prostitution, only to people who don’t want to call it what it is!) 😉

    And hey! “the next old fool” ???
    Did you just reveal something involuntarily? 😉

  251. Josh says:

    *man-woman

  252. Josh says:

    Not before the 1st meeting per se, but upfront allowance before her sugar flows…

    It’s a cardinal rule of man-women relationship, any money paid in advance is gone forever.

    This SB WILL demand “gifts” to meet on the agreed upon dates for the rest of the month while looking for the next old fool.

  253. Elaine says:

    I meant, like before 1st. meet?

  254. Elaine says:

    Upfront, like before meeting?

  255. Josh says:

    After two sets of messages 6 days apart and a phone call, I got rid of a rinser.

    She wanted a decent level of monthly allowance upfront. I said regardless of what the allowance amount it will be paid in installments. She did not want to go with that and tried the “I am not a prostitute” line on me, like I gave a shit…

    Hasta la vista babe. 😉

  256. Josh says:

    @Ethan,

    Are you into men, women or both? 😉

  257. “Elaine says:

    No no! No Ice water buckets, that is another challenge!

    Ruining my ugly/nasty/sarcastic blog image is one thing, don’t want to ruin my hair too, sorry! LOL”

    “Josh says:

    @Elaine

    The hair involved in yougottabedrenchingyourself’s challenge is not the same hair you and Laura Bush are worried about. LOL!”

    I, too, would much rather ruin my ugly/nasty/sarcastic blog image than ruin the hair on my head :).

    Though I find the iced bush or iced merkin challenge ridiculously funny evolution that stemmed from Josh asking me if I had a problem with his problem with Laura Bush to which someone answered, “I have a problem with your bush.” LOL

  258. @quirky beauty

    “So guys, if you’re hoping for a sexy outfit, say so. If you want discreet, perhaps even business attire, say so. If you want her to match your level of formality, mention that you’re wearing shorts and a polo shirt, or that you’re in an Armani suit.”

    bb <—–that's two thumbs up :).

    Welcome :).

  259. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    The hair involved in yougottabedrenchingyourself’s challenge is not the same hair you and Laura Bush are worried about. LOL!

  260. Josh says:

    @Quirky Beauty

    Welcome to the blog and those are very fair expectations.

  261. Quirky Beauty says:

    Potential SDs should let SBs know if they prefer a type of attire different from what’s appropriate, attractive, and nice quality. Yes, like FlyR mentioned, SBs should also consider what attracted the SDs in the first place, but some men are unclear about what they expect. Okay, so I’ve been out on dates, where men tell me they’re disappointed that I’m not showing more skin. And I tell them that if they use the word “discreet” in their profile, emails, phone calls, and so on, and we’re meeting at a nice restaurant, yeah, I’ll wear something that shows off my figure, but not something so low cut that people around are staring as they wish for a wardrobe malfunction. So guys, if you’re hoping for a sexy outfit, say so. If you want discreet, perhaps even business attire, say so. If you want her to match your level of formality, mention that you’re wearing shorts and a polo shirt, or that you’re in an Armani suit.

  262. Elaine says:

    No no! No Ice water buckets, that is another challenge! 😉

    Ruining my ugly/nasty/sarcastic blog image is one thing, don’t want to ruin my hair too, sorry! LOL

  263. Josh says:

    I had to read Joseph’s message a couple of times before realizing that this is an entirely different Joseph.

    Just imagine SunShineOfYourUterusEnvy talking like this. LOL!

  264. “My good intention is to only react if I think I have something sensible to say, or when info or advice is asked, only where I think I have something sensible to add.
    I am sick of the personal attacks, and I think the “insiders” talk chases away new bloggers.

    But hey! It is a good intention, not a promise!”

    That’s good intention…I like it :). Challenge accepted! But no bucket of iced water, I hope.

  265. @Joseph

    I too think that the sophisticated but casual look is a good bet. Always better to step it up a notch than down when you’re not sure.

    Thanks for sharing your experience. I second Elaine that it’d be nice to read more from individuals outside of the mainstreamed image.

  266. “It would really be better if one could use what little time remained in more positive ways such as the giving and receiving of experientally-based advice and knowledge.”

    Experientally-based advice and knowledge…

    Might this be a hybrid of experience and experimental advice and knowledge? Cutting edge for sure. Can you share some examples?

  267. Josh says:

    @Elaine and @Alexis

    I am glad that you are Alexis are getting along. 😉

    I always appreciate messages from both of you. I consider them to be useful in looking at sugar from your respective vantage points.

  268. Elaine says:

    @Alexis

    You got it!
    Let’s se if we find more “followers” 😉

  269. Alexis says:

    “I am sick of the personal attacks, and I think the “insiders” talk chases away new bloggers.”

    Thank you for your words. No one wishes to be constantly attacked for sharing their beliefs and viewpoints. It’s a waste of time to try to deal with that when this lifestyle already takes *so* much time as it is.

    It would really be better if one could use what little time remained in more positive ways such as the giving and receiving of experientally-based advice and knowledge.

  270. Elaine says:

    @ Joseph

    As far as female SB advice is worth anything; I would go for the “sophisticated but casual” look.
    Always safe!

    Succes at your date, and it would be nice to hear how it went.

    We hear so many stories about the classical, US based, 20y white female SB meets white male 50y SD.

    It would be so nice if also male SBs, homosexual SDs, sugarmommies and coloured and not US based bloggers would participate more! :-)

    Lets try to make this blog a friendly and informative place again!

    My good intention is to only react if I think I have something sensible to say, or when info or advice is asked, only where I think I have something sensible to add.
    I am sick of the personal attacks, and I think the “insiders” talk chases away new bloggers.

    But hey! It is a good intention, not a promise! 😉

  271. Joseph says:

    I’ve never been on an SB/SD date before. where I’m sort of worried lol! I’ve had a few talks with potential SD’s and I think I’d wear something not to dressy as I’m a man but sophisticated but casual? Winter/Autumn Black biker jacket, low cutish jumper, black jeans and a pair of Chelsea boots with my Louis Vuitton bag or Summer Spring/ Skinny Jeans, white Converse, white tee with a classic blazer – so if I was you girly’s, guys or both go with something sophisticated!

  272. Josh says:

    Good for you. 😉

  273. “Smooth operating profile will do you no good. It costs money to communicate with SBs.”

    No worries, baby…I’m loaded.

    “Elaine maybe referring to the ability to look at your female SB competition in general to assess what you are competing against.”

    I’m pretty self aware and self investing, and while I can appreciate other females profiles for their own presentation or for purposes of my own reflection, I’m not really interested in competing. I attract everything I need and some of what I want by my very nature and drive. In creating a profile that appeals to the person I wish to attract, I present myself as I am, as I aspire to be, and as I’m able to share myself. Sure, it’s helpful and wise to be aware, but Im really not much concerned with competing.

    But! Perhaps that’s yet another reason why I’ll never find a benefactor. Huh, babe?

    It seems (from blog SDs and messaging SDs reports) that a good number of the profiles out there are sketch anyway. So why would I waste my energy competing against people who don’t really exist in the genuine sense. I’ve definitely no interest in competing with chicks like the one that got kicked off of Bethenny, or with wannabe plastic housewives, or with “let me lick this cream pie off your been-everywhere finger while I suppress my gag reflex”.

    To give an analogy…

    Over the course of time, Ive participated in a number of “competitive” activities. Whether it was a cotillion, sports, dance, In-The-Know, board games, ultimate challenges (no merkins) or bible study even (I always won. Amen), I was always a top contender, but my aim was merely to be the best that I could be, to maximize my capability at the given task, and to enjoy improving myself along the way. I even host my very own solo mini sexercise marathons, and I out-do myself every time. Yes, it helps to know what others are bringing to the table, but that only goes so far if you’re not well equipped to begin with.

    I realize that sugar is kind of a different ball game, but if I considered competition some of the profiles I’ve come across through the “view similar profile” option, Id forfeit the game, go home, eat a peanut-butter and jelly sandwich, have a mini marathon, score, win and take a nap.

    [sighs]

    Sugar daddy, oh sugar daddy. Where art thy sugar daddy?

  274. Josh says:

    Smooth operating profile will do you no good. It costs money to communicate with SBs. 😉

    Elaine maybe referring to the ability to look at your female SB competition in general to assess what you are competing against.

  275. @Elaine

    Surely welcome and warranted :).

    Thanks for the profile view pointers. Maybe I can use some of Joshysweets’ pointers, and create a profile of a smooth operating SD.

  276. “Josh says:
    August 28, 2014 at 4:43 am
    “loathes her most”?

    Negative.”

    Awwwww…lol. Love you back, grumpykisses ;-p

  277. Elaine says:

    @ yGBKM

    Thanks for being so nice :-)

    You can see female profiles by going to your own profile preview and paste the profilenumber you want to see in the URL, in place of yours!

    Or make a fake male profile for some marketresearch, that is really interesting and eye opening! 😉

  278. Elaine says:

    Hi Tomi

    If you want, drop me a line at : elainesablog at google mail, and we can see if I can be of any help?

  279. Josh says:

    “loathes her most”?

    Negative.

  280. Josh says:

    “Though I do find the muffler reference a bit disturbing.”

    Is this time for awww yet?

  281. Elaine is a lovely, finely seasoned woman, indeed. Definitely one to take notes from.

    Rest well :).

  282. Tomi says:

    *** …if Elaine can offer additional advice.

  283. Tomi says:

    @ yougottabekiddingme:

    I have a pretty thick skin. I knew exactly where Josh was coming from and I heeded his advice….SOME!! His reference to the ALL CAPS was spot on, and I meant no disrespect to a POT SD. Corrections made. Now, just waiting to see if Elaine offer additional advice. :-) Good night all.

  284. Where are the numbers?!?! I can’t see the gosh flame-it flipping numbers!! They were there before, I swear!!!

    Numbers, oh numbers…

    Why hath thou forsaken me?!

    Whyyyyyyyyyyyy?!?!?!?

    [and just as predicted by her only love who knows and loathes her most…she indeed went crazy over the numbers]

    Contrastly…it’s nice to know I wasn’t just seeing things. Teehee ;-p

    Would be nice, though, to be able to reference numbers like you kewl kidz. Whatevz.

  285. “Josh says:
    August 27, 2014 at 6:18 pm
    @Tomi. Sorry I can’t help you. yougottabemakingupstuffup can’t either, and stay away from dumb and dumber flyR. He will throw you off cliff without you or him knowing any better.

    Seek guidance from Elaine. She may be able to guide you better. ”

    Another thing, if you have to use “lady” let alone “LADY” THREE TIMES in your profile, and then have the courage to uppercase GENTLEMAN then the most significant thought in the SDs mind is, this woman is either not going to put out or is going to charge “a lot for this…”

    A rare occasion in which I agree with Grumps. Except that I appreciate a good bit of what flyR posts.

    And Grumps…kisses to you for being courteous in your advice. Though I do find the muffler reference a bit disturbing.

  286. Tomi says:

    Point well taken and sound advice. Neither of which is what I intended to convey. Corrections, deletions coming right up. Thank you again. :-)

  287. Josh says:

    Another thing, if you have to use “lady” let alone “LADY” THREE TIMES in your profile, and then have the courage to uppercase GENTLEMAN then the most significant thought in the SDs mind is, this woman is either not going to put out or is going to charge “a lot for this muffler” a la George Forman’s Minekie Muffler series of commercials. LOL!

  288. Tomi says:

    @ Josh, thank you for your candor and advice :-)

  289. Josh says:

    @Tomi, certain profiles I can help and others I defer to Elaine.

    A broadstroke “advice”…remove most of the verbiage, which is all over the map, and I have no clue what you are trying to get at.

    Just put top three things in each sections.

  290. Tomi says:

    @ Josh, you’re a guy and you read my profile, posts #436 & #438? Why can you “not help”? 😉

  291. Josh says:

    @Tomi

    “my posts, #436 & 438”

    yougottabegettingallbentoutofshape will be going crazy because she cannot see numbers on your posts 436 and 438 or even this post 442 (the number for this post.)

  292. Tomi says:

    @ Elaine: Will you please read my posts, #436 & 438? Any advice?

  293. Josh says:

    @Tomi. Sorry I can’t help you. yougottabemakingupstuffup can’t either, and stay away from dumb and dumber flyR. He will throw you off cliff without you or him knowing any better.

    Seek guidance from Elaine. She may be able to guide you better. 😉

  294. Tomi says:

    @ yougottabekiddingme, Thanks for your response. where would I find my “profile number”? Ok, here is my Profile and what I’m seeking:

    About Me

    I retired in Jan. & moved north, from Texas. Not sure what my next career will be, but I do have a few ideas I’m tossing around. For now, this allows me the opportunity to be free to come and go without restraint. I was taught to be a LADY, to say please & thank you, be respectful, kind, gracious and thankful for everything in my life. Fine dining and a fun time out is a luxury for me, but it allows me to dress to the 9’s. I’m equally comfortable in jeans, t-shirt, & BBQing. I prefer healthy eating, but do indulge in dark chocolate on occasion. I enjoy the relaxation spas, massages, manicures and pedicures offer me. Pedicures for me are comical. I’m an animal and Nature lover. I love the outdoors, trail riding on horseback, & deep sea fishing, on calm waters, of course. I enjoy the Arts, music, theater, galleries and museums, preferably on the arm of a Gentleman. I had an impromptu idea last Fall, & put it into motion, getting my 1st Passport & went Sydney, Australia. Having a healthy sense of adventure & enjoying new experiences, I’d love to travel more, with a companion to share the sights & sounds with. I’m not a thrill seeker, & bungee jumping is off my bucket list, but zip-lining would be exhilarating. I’ve been told I’ve a great sense of humor, sometimes quirky, slapstick, and a little colorful. It depends on the company & situation. I enjoy keeping people in stitches, so to speak. I also have a playful side. “I will slap the wandering and roaming hand on the first date!” (Author unknown – I borrowed this, but it’s in keeping with who I am) Focusing on mutual chemistry, compatibility and interests. I’m a down-to-earth Woman, not high maintenance by any means. I’m self-confident, honest, loyal, dependable and discrete. I’m NOT into S&M or anything kinky. I AM first and foremost a LADY, and I expect to be treated as such, as you’ll be treated as the Gentleman that you are.

    What I’m looking for

    I’m looking for a long term, mutually satisfying, and moderate arrangement with a mature and distinguished GENTLEMAN, over the age of 50. A Gentleman in every sense of the word, and I value chivalry. No, it’s not dead, just hard to come by. You’re unattached, honest, dependable, kind, loyal, and discrete. You’re looking for a LADY with whom you can enjoy what life has to offer, mutual companionship, tastes, and desires and willingness to mentor me in my next chapter in life. We both want and desire to be spoiled by each other. Does my “Personal Description” sound like someone you want by your side, as a companion or partner, long term? Of course it does, so what are you waiting for? Drop me a line. This can be fun if you want it bad enough!!

  295. I haven’t figured out how to search SBs profiles. Does anyone know if ladies are able to search other ladies by profile?

    Anyway…you could post your profile number, the guys of the blog can view it. Or, you can copy and paste your content here.

    As for messaging…if someone piques your interest, go for it!

  296. Tomi says:

    @ Josh
    @ yougottabekiddingme
    @ flyR

    Thank you for your advice. I was leaning toward what you mentioned, but just wanted to make sure.
    Now, I’ve been on this site for about a week. I created my original profile, and only got “viewed” by 33 POT SD, but no messages. I did write it rather quickly, and thinking the wording wasn’t quite what I really wanted to convey, I rewrote it today. I know, don’t over think it. Would any of you be willing to look at my profile and see if I need some pointers, maybe reword something? I wrote my profile as a reflection of who I am, what I want and what I have to offer. Is it ok for ME to initiate a message or favorite a POT SD?

  297. “Ever seen the SA 18th. birthday ad??
    It is focussing on those teens, teaching them they can finally find an SD the day they turn 18!”

    Wow.

    Better believe that some are signing up even sooner.

    Yikes

  298. Josh says:

    Re: Getting laughed at…

    “Most men fear getting laughed at or humiliated by a romantic prospect while most women fear rape and death.”
    ― Gavin de Becker, The Gift of Fear: Survival Signals That Protect Us from Violence

  299. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    Spin is a useful technique if you call pull it off successfully.

    You might want to read the last paragraph of your own post for a more:

    C O M P R E H E N S I V E R E A D I N G

  300. NC Gent says:

    650S FTW – when I traveled to Denmark and Sweden about 4 years ago, it was like shooting fish in a barrel finding dates with super hot Scandinavian women. There just aren’t very many SDs in that area of the world. Somehow, I am guessing that our approaches to women might differ significantly though.

  301. Elaine says:

    C O M P R E H E N S I V E R E A D I N G Josh!

    “It DOES NOT take millions upon millions of dollars of disposable income to play a sugar daddy.”

    Where did I say it does take millions upon millions to play sugardaddy?
    (It surely does help, but that is another story! 😉 )

    I said I don’t know any SD in the highest income and networth group to have time or interest to post a lot on blog.
    These are 2 different things, that have NOTHING to do with each other.

    “Having known a few people in the above mentioned group I can guarantee you that not too many of those hang out at SA let alone at the SA blog.”

    So?
    That is exactly what I was saying!!
    And you are right, there is not too many, but there are enough! :-)

  302. Josh says:

    Damn it! I should have used a different allegory. “Butt ugly” may be seriously and irreparably affected by the bunghole bleaching phenomenon. LOL!

  303. Josh says:

    All blog SBs are butt ugly (except those who have proven otherwise).

    Why else would they be wasting their time on this silly blog instead of enjoying the high dollar arrangements with their high net worth SD?

    Let’s see how far this argument goes… 😉

  304. Josh says:

    Elaine

    “important businessman or CEO in the highest income and networth group”

    Can’t speak for other blog SDs but as a frequent blog poster, please allow me to say the obvious. 😉

    As it DOES NOT take utmost beauty and youth to become a successful sugar baby, it DOES NOT take millions upon millions of dollars of disposable income to play a sugar daddy.

    Having known a few people in the above mentioned group I can guarantee you that not too many of those hang out at SA let alone at the SA blog.

    So the oft-repeated reference to the high net worth men is as relevant to SDs at SA as the mention of bunghole bleaching of gay men. 😉

  305. @flyR says:

    “I used the term “feministic” in the Scandinavian way….
    Not really realising the “negative” image it has in the US.

    So thanks for having added this (very true!) explanation.”

    There’s so much we could have learned from a society based on their strong sense of individual responsibility and courtesy .

    There’s a legal concept in Sweden which literally translates to “all man’s land” under which you can enter private property and camp for a 2-3 days as long as you are something like 300 meters from any home and you disturb nothing (leave it as you found it).

    Sailing in the Stockholm Archipelligo there were some “anchorages” where boats were nestled quite closely to each other – bow tied to stone anchors on the steep granite face and held by stern anchors. In the US you would be bombarded with the sound of boom boxes, generators, buzzing outboards and such throughout the day an night. There all you heard was children laughing and playing and murmured conversations. Using the car horn announced that you were German and on vacation.

  306. Elaine says:

    @ Flyr

    I used the term “feministic” in the Scandinavian way….
    Not really realising the “negative” image it has in the US.

    So thanks for having added this (very true!) explanation.
    And yes, haha, you might be very right about the Russian scammers!

    Intelligent, Intelligenter, Intelligentst! 😉

    Another thing I would like to clarify is:
    I have never stated the blog SDs are not real, or not working.
    Just said it would be very unlikely for an important businessman or CEO in the highest income and networth group, to be interested -or having a lot of free time- to be posting continuesly on blog.
    At least, I never met one.

  307. Kms2014 says:

    I thought 650 was joking, or just not real…Perhaps, was mistaken…lol!

  308. @flyR says:

    @elaine – friendly amendment to above –

    Having dated a Swedish woman for many years and spent a considerable amount of time there, feminist as the term is used in the US does not really seem to fit as it is saddled with a lot of doctrinaire rigidity. It is a country (or group of countries ) with far more equality,harmony and sexual freedom.

    Somehow I get the feel that 650S’s Norwegian delights are more likely Russian scammers working out of an apartment in Brooklyn

  309. Elaine says:

    650S FTW says:

    “my little wascally wabbit Norwegian supermodel superstupidnobrain douchenozzle last night”

    “BTW I would do Naomi Watts in an instant and still even someone as ancient as Susan Lucci”

    “BTW does anyone else have this problem. I am going to Oslo and Stockholm to meet some of my little fantasies…like 100/100 babes………. anyway, the 3 lassies I really want to see ask for pics, so I send them, they respond and say you are nice looking… I email back and zero response….. whereas the 85/100 babes are all over me ready to have my sperm in their….. well whatevers.”

    I am sooooooo surprised all those Scandinavian supermodels are not responding to the ,undoubtable! nice and respectful mails of this gentleman!
    Aren’t you, other blogladies?
    Wouldn’t you feel honoured to receive mail from this classy Hampton resident, not even talking about receiving his sperm!

    Scandinavian ladies are brought up in a very feministic environment, where men and women are very much equal and treated in the same respectful way.
    Don’t really think they will appreciate the braggy, simplistic and sexistic, very American way of thinking of Mr. 65os.

  310. Elaine says:

    “I have seen how teenage girls dress and it seems that parents are teaching their girls to be sexual objects”

    Ever seen the SA 18th. birthday ad??
    It is focussing on those teens, teaching them they can finally find an SD the day they turn 18!

    And don’t forget that a lot of SDs here love the way some parents have tought their girls to be sexual objects. 😉

    Talking about “Kiddy porn” ….

  311. Kms2014 says:

    Never have any lesbian thoughts, in the least…but those scenes with Naomi getting down with the other hot lady…wow, it was hot! She played her part very well…

  312. Kms2014 says:

    Hey, never said straight men bleached their hiney hole more than, or at all…compared to gay man. Just said men often do this, and some women as well, hehe. This is an urban legend on blog now 😉

    @650S, she is a pretty good actress, too, and like her hubby. Do hope you have watched, ‘Mulholland Drive’.

  313. @650

    You should totally put your sperm in their whatevers.

    @Spoonful

    Yep, douchenozzle is a thing. Women love it, actually, as it is a term of endearment and also the highest respect a man can express to a woman.

  314. LOL @650S FTW – I’ve never heard a man refer to a woman as a “douchenozzle”, but I love the term and use it pretty frequently! And hey, an 85% is still a B and above average. 😉

  315. 650S FTW says:

    “”””””” Josh says:
    August 25, 2014 at 7:13 pm
    @Kms2014

    Hmmm, by the way where did you read that the straight men are getting their bungholes bleached more than women and/or possibly gay men?””””””””

    No str8 man where I am from gets anything done downunder if you know what I mean mate… bleached khyber pass… “I don’t think so Tim”

  316. 650S FTW says:

    BTW does anyone else have this problem. I am going to Oslo and Stockholm to meet some of my little fantasies…like 100/100 babes………. anyway, the 3 lassies I really want to see ask for pics, so I send them, they respond and say you are nice looking… I email back and zero response….. whereas the 85/100 babes are all over me ready to have my sperm in their….. well whatevers.

    Okay doesnt matter cause I am sitting here with my 10 dogs on a nice Hamptons night drinking Rose Champagne with my Nancy Boy poofy neighbours.. they say hi to any really young queenie weenies out here

  317. 650S FTW says:

    I played Sir Elton John’s classic, “Don’t Shoot Me – I’m Only the Piano Player” for my little wascally wabbit Norwegian supermodel superstupidnobrain douchenozzle last night

    She, “Who is Elton Jonn”.

    I effing kid you not… nuttin ventured nuttin gained.

    BTW I would do Naomi Watts in an instant and still even someone as ancient as Susan Lucci

  318. You should go. Just because.

  319. Think Velcro, Clorox Bleach, and merkins…

  320. Sam Spayed says:

    Off topic but about the LA party on the 18th. Is there a place to discuss this party? What is the vibe — desperate singles scoping and hitting each other up, beautiful people out to have fun dancing, or a more relaxed lounge-conversational atmosphere? Is the music as loud as a typical club where it is difficult to have a conversation? Is it mostly for people still seeking or also for people who have found an arrangement and want to have some fun in the VIP section? Sorry for so many questions but I am curious before committing.

  321. Josh says:

    Do you need spanking?

  322. nicegirl says:

    Don’t you have work to do? or is it homework?

  323. Josh says:

    @flyR

    “Regretting that I let this subject out of the box .”

    I totally agree with you as ‘this subject’ = FlyR.

  324. Josh says:

    And since it’s already purchased the bunghole bleech would be almost free.

  325. Josh says:

    @yougottabekiddingme

    “Clorox is all I have around. Too much?”

    No it’s not too much. You don’t wanna use bleech from a dollar store. After all it is your own precious hole.

    Clorox is a good brand and it’s not too much money either. 😉

  326. Josh says:

    @yougottabekiddingme

    “Hymen reconstruction surgery is a matter of life or death for some women in some cultural contexts.”

    It must be. Why else would some of these women wanna have hymen reconstruction surgery done before they are put in the coffin. Does it even heal after they are dead?

    Weird, huh?

  327. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Kms2014

    Elaine has my email address. You are now free to show me whatever proof you have.

  328. Josh says:

    Now this post from flyR crosses social, political, racial, economic, age and international boundaries in dumb, dumber as well as dumbest statements.

    I am dumb”founded”… 😉

  329. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Kms2014

    I am not going to hunt for your email address on the blog. You can post it again.

  330. flyR says:

    I blame parents for tolerating what the media puts out there …. teaching young girls to be sexual objects and teaching young men , especially black men ) to be thugs and abusers of women. The folks who make the billions live in their protected mansions and have armed guards outside their offices. Tipper Gore was outraged at the rap lyrics but went silent when Al was nominated VP as they were major donors. But before she took a dive one of the top rap groups recorded and released a song celebrating sodomizing her young teen daughters by name.

    It was really sad when I was in Turkey to see the kids in little villages watching MTV and it’s kiddy porn . It’s one of the few valid reasons these folks have to hate our culture.

  331. nicegirl says:

    @FlyR… I got your point and I know it was not in regard to religion. I can’t believe parents support such behavior, but then again I have seen how teenage girls dress and it seems that parents are teaching their girls to be sexual objects which then teaches the boys to objectify girls.

  332. flyR says:

    Regretting that I let this subject out of the box .

  333. “@Kms2014

    “as white as December snow.”

    That would be really cool… ”

    Almost have me sold. Clorox is all I have around. Too much?

  334. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    “as white as December snow.”

    That would be really cool… 😉

  335. Hymen reconstruction surgery is a matter of life or death for some women in some cultural contexts.

  336. flyR says:

    @nicegirl – I first heard about the surgery on the radio along with comments that it was being marketed to high school girls in LA. Asked a female friend who googled it and immediately gasped – enormous competition among beverly hills surgeons with large internet sites filled with before and after photos.

    One of the nice things about sex is that all women are a little different and change with their level of interest. Why mess with mother nature except in the most severe cases. Apparently there is a pornstar look that that’s popular. Surgeons also offer “hymen reconstruction” All more than I needed to know. Thankfully I do not have a teen daughter to worry about. Probably the same crowd that waits for the new issue of People magazine.

  337. Kms2014 says:

    I better not say too much about hypothetical bum hole bleaching…FB might accuse me of being racist again, if I so choose to have my special little hole as white as December snow.

  338. Kms2014 says:

    My SD gave me full body laser removal, so I might be open bleaching it, if he asked….but, am not going to seek that out to do or ask a man to do that for me, lol! It probably doesn’t hurt as bad as the laser….am used to pain as having your hair, in the nether regions of that whole area, literally burnt by a fiery laser, down to the root, does not feel very good.

  339. Josh says:

    And very platonically you may check out his bunghole for possible bleaching.

    And depending on what type of homosexual he turns out to be, he may ask you to bleach your bunghole for aesthetic purposes? 😉

  340. Kms2014 says:

    @nicegirl, A more derogatory term is their, ‘fag hag’.

  341. Kms2014 says:

    @nicegirl, yes, according to some of my past perverted male friends. I have not inspected labia for myself, so cannot be sure….(;

    Oh yes, @Josh…knew an older girl while overseas who told me a story about how she wanted to stay in country, after her Visa was up, many years ago. She didn’t have a job anymore, but wanted to relocate there. She was good friends with a gay man. This was in the 90’s, so his parents did not know about his homosexuality, and he did not want them to. He offered to marry her, so she could stay and she accepted. She got to stay in country and is still living there, and his parents were happy that he ‘married’…and never asked questions because they probably secretly knew, anyways, but could tell their friends he was married. His parents lived pretty far away from the city they were in. They are still married….they haven’t seen each other in years, though. It was their arrangement, I guess. Odd, though, but guess it worked for them….

  342. nicegirl says:

    … what is being someones beard?

  343. Kms2014 says:

    A gay SD means a good shopping buddy/SD and platonic relationship….he would pay me to be his beard, perhaps? Why not? Even though I am against people not being true to themselves, they might have a reason….Celebrities in Hollywood and other famous people beard sometimes…if a man wants to rent my old eggs and middle aged womb who knows what is next? 😉

  344. nicegirl says:

    *can’t

  345. nicegirl says:

    Kms… you just can win this one… :( I mean all women are idiots but are they Lesbian idiots?

  346. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    “I never said/specified straight or gay men…men are men, yes?”

    Absolutely! You should try to get a homosexual SD next. Men are men, yes? 😉

  347. nicegirl says:

    @Kms… so I suppose the answer to my question is Yes.

  348. nicegirl says:

    Wow… I can say outside of porn and my own I have not seen a woman’s hoo ha in person. I suppose men’s parts aren’t all attractive so women’s wouldn’t be either. I have never seen an unattractive penis though… but a little “manscaping” will go along way!

  349. Kms2014 says:

    @nicegirl…apparently women’s labia all have their own individual ‘look’ if you will(some are referred to as huge flaps, while others are more petite in nature)..and the size if the labia is not always indicative of the size of woman’s vag jay jay. Have had too many talkative male friends….

  350. Kms2014 says:

    I never said/specified straight or gay men…men are men, yes?

  351. nicegirl says:

    It is nice to hear that men are doing some beauty regimen downstairs (even it they are gay) Women get brazilians for their men and let me tell you… that is no picnic! I suppose that is when a woman sees her Labia for the first time and decides it isn’t pretty enough?? Has a man here really seen a woman’s vagina and thought yuck? I am curious.

  352. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    Hmmm, by the way where did you read that the straight men are getting their bungholes bleached more than women and/or possibly gay men?

  353. nicegirl says:

    I agree… whatever happened to being attracted to the one you are with… the way they are?

  354. flyR says:

    @nicegirl- It’s bizarre what the medical world is doing for the fringe.

  355. nicegirl says:

    @flyR… that is gross… I suppose if I was staring at an A**hole on a regular basis I would want it to look “pretty” for me ;o)

  356. Josh says:

    I had thought that the proper word was bunghole as in Beavis’ “TP for my bunghole”? 😉

  357. flyR says:

    “@nicegirl…How about the men and women(but, mainly men) who bleach their bum holes”

    That’s because gerbils are afraid of the dark.

  358. Jacob says:

    When the balls are big and strong enough, a little squeeze attempt by a normal woman is quite pleasurable for both: she feels like she is getting something for her effort, while you feel it like harmless massage. LOL. None of us can take any money with us when we die, so why not spend some on people who are closest to us and make us happy.

    Just stay away from women whose closest friends are all guys; they are like women with little children born to loser biological fathers: they already have projects that are antagonistic to you! No need to test your balls in her grasping hands, which are enlarged by her existing projects.

  359. nicegirl says:

    What??? I have heard of that but thought that was a porn thing. Ordinary people really do that? ouch….

  360. Kms2014 says:

    @nicegirl…How about the men and women(but, mainly men) who bleach their bum holes 😉

  361. nicegirl says:

    @FlyR… what the hell is a porn star labia? What is this world coming to???? ugh…

  362. Josh says:

    @Jacob

    “Grow bigger balls and pick women with smaller hands.”

    Growing bigger balls has a medical name for it and not interested in tiny women. 😉

  363. Josh says:

    For whatever it is worth the blog regulars should have the option of off-blog communication open to keep the unnecessary blog tussle to a minimum.

  364. Jacob says:

    “I may be crazy. But I am not stupid. I would keep anything of mine away from her that could give her a iota of idea that she could grab my balls and squeeze them.”

    Grow bigger balls and pick women with smaller hands.

  365. Jacob says:

    Serial monogamy will be no hinderance to maintaining the loyalty and devotion the mother of existing children at all, so long as the mother and children are more than adequately provided for. In fact, in the “ex” capacity, the mother would derive pride out of your ability to pick up new much younger 20-something year olds and want to stay on your good side as a result instead of sabotaging. That’s how weird women really are. Little wonder the really young women are attracted to thugs and drug dealers.

  366. Josh says:

    @yougottabeX

    “Babe? Is that you?”

    Are you now alluding that 650 = Josh?

  367. Josh says:

    @Jacob

    “Or, shall I say, give her a project to work on, your project, if you can afford it.”

    I may be crazy. But I am not stupid. I would keep anything of mine away from her that could give her a iota of idea that she could grab my balls and squeeze them. 😉

  368. Jacob says:

    We are talking about the reptilian part of the brain here, not the frontal-lobe analytical part, that drives instinctive behavior. It’s primordial and uninfluenced by education, at the fundamental level.

  369. flyR says:

    Is the thigh gap why there is a land office business in labiaplasty. Apparently it is a big deal in LA with teenagers wanting to get a porn star labia. Utterly tragic.

  370. Josh says:

    “So give her some bones to chew on and keep her content/happy.”

    Hmmm, didn’t know how you really looked at your women. 😉

  371. Jacob says:

    Or, shall I say, give her a project to work on, your project, if you can afford it.

  372. Jacob says:

    “Hahahaha! I think you forgot the script from the SunShineOfYourUterusEnvy movie. Whatever happened to the seriel monogamy?”

    No change to the plan at all. The common vested interest refers to the child(ren) in common. I have learned over the years that while men can be dedicated to their women, women are not capable of being devoted to their men (even if being technically loyal); but they are very devoted to their children. It’s just like parents are devoted to children and would be willing to lay down their lives for the latter, but it would be bizarre for the children to reciprocate and lay down their lives for the parents. Love is unidirectional, biologically programmed to be like that. So give her some bones to chew on and keep her content/happy.

  373. Josh says:

    @yougotabeX

    There were no “buyers” per se so there were no lemon laws involved.

  374. nicegirl says:

    @ygbkm… a thigh gap was not a requirement to be sexy back then… ;o) and it still isn’t among the adult men of the world. The entire topic makes me shake my head and laugh.

  375. Jacob says:

    LOL. The cash value of a stream of girls would be zero to me, as I was relatively newly married, only a few years at that time, and we were building a couple businesses together using my pre-marital assets without any pre-nup protection. I was quite smitten with her.

  376. “650S FTW (AKFKA) says:
    August 25, 2014 at 4:39 pm
    Josh,

    You and I would get along well together…. party animals to the core… well before my ticker gave up that is…………..

    I like your attitude though

    Life is about today and that is all

    Me – meeting a 22 yr old Oslo Norwegian model tonight… oh the shame !”

    Babe? Is that you?

  377. Josh says:

    “My plan is to stuff the boardrooms with my SB’s, those who have vested interested in common with me.”

    Hahahaha! I think you forgot the script from the SunShineOfYourUterusEnvy movie. Whatever happened to the seriel monogamy?

  378. “Jacob says:
    August 25, 2014 at 4:51 pm
    BTW, I believe my after-tax income surpassed my dad’s when I was about 30, when he was around 60, not counting the cash value of his stream of girls. But I was relatively newly married back then.”

    Please share…

    What was the cash value of his stream of girls? And how long was this stream? Did these girls have thigh gap? If so, was this considered in calculating their cash value? Was he ever able to cash in on this stream of thigh gapped? girls? If so, who bought them? Did inflation or depreciation affect their resale value? Was the buyer protected under lemon laws? Any warranties? Written or expressed?

  379. Kms2014 says:

    If you are not Scottish, then…..the Irish say ‘fecking’ not fooking. What a mystery.

  380. Kms2014 says:

    @650, sorry for accusing you of being fooking Scottish 😉

    Hey, Naomi Watts is 45…she is older than me…and she is quite attractive (: would she be a middle aged MILF, then, and not a GILF?

    Scandanian women are very hot. I like their movies and novels, too…very dark and mysterious. Good suspense writers. Must be all the darkness.

  381. Jacob says:

    BTW, I believe my after-tax income surpassed my dad’s when I was about 30, when he was around 60, not counting the cash value of his stream of girls. But I was relatively newly married back then.

  382. flyR says:

    @FB “What should I do?”

    One of the funniest ……be careful you may be known at
    funny bastard

    Re comment that “Real SD” would find SB’s in real life.

    Much of the fun in the office has been sacrificed to political correctness and harrassment lawsuits.

  383. Jacob says:

    My dad used to spend his time in boardroom meetings as a C-level officer in a large multinational corporation. He would not have used SA because the various supplying and contracting companies constantly sent girls to him, numbering into the thousands. The tax rate on his income was too high, but at least he did not have to pay his girls with after-tax income. I would think people who waste their time in boardrooms and yet have to pay for their own female companion are mere lackeys if not glorified wage slaves.

    My plan is to stuff the boardrooms with my SB’s, those who have vested interested in common with me.

  384. nicegirl says:

    @650S – I was referring to others, not you. Post away in your retirement. You have earned it I am sure ;o)

  385. nicegirl says:

    “And NO I am NOT fooking Scottish”… really, you sound a bit fooking Scottish ;o)

    A pretty face suits the dish-cloot!! and Denise Richards is in her early 40’s and would rival most 20 somethings I am guessing.

  386. 650S FTW (AKFKA) says:

    nicegirl _ I am retired… I do not know any really wealthy people who work… we have other idiots for that

  387. 650S FTW (AKFKA) says:

    Josh,

    You and I would get along well together…. party animals to the core… well before my ticker gave up that is…………..

    I like your attitude though

    Life is about today and that is all

    Me – meeting a 22 yr old Oslo Norwegian model tonight… oh the shame !

  388. 650S FTW (AKFKA) says:

    And NO I am NOT fooking Scottish

  389. 650S FTW (AKFKA) says:

    Kms2014 says:
    August 25, 2014 at 10:33 am
    Hmm, 650… Are you Scottish? Just curious…would you add, Madeline Stowe to your list of 50+?

    Don’t take me too seriously…. indeed not at all !

    Yes I really LIKE Ms Stowe and Jane Fonda and Racquel Welch.. but let us forget my GILF fetishes for now…. Denise Richards, Naomi Watts, Myanna Buring (yum yum)… ad infinitum…. I like pretty ladies with blue eyes… that is my utter sickness… but Rik was a complete and utter bastard.

    I am bored because I just watched another Chris Harris /drive drifting video… ho hum

    I really like Scandi ladies and go do they like me

  390. nicegirl says:

    “You are probably right. None of the SD’s who write on the blog are real. I have never managed to have an arrangement either.”

    It is not the posting on the blog – it is the extreme frequency of some posts. Who has the time?
    Go back to work and make some money for your sweet SB. ;o)

  391. Kms2014 says:

    @fatbastard…I do not think I am ‘awesome’. Hate that overused word, by the way. I am nothing special, really…but you continually stalk my posts for ‘proof’, yet, when I offer to send you some, privately, you refuse? If you ever want to email me privately, for the “proof” you always seek, then the offer stands.

    @Jacob, my opinions might not ‘mesh’ well with everyone’s, but I think what you did was in poor taste, whether you meant it or not. I don’t see the reason why any SB or SD should be forced or coerced into publishing her profile number, on a public blog forum, where he/she has(or, is more likely, due to anonymity)posted a lot of personal information(which, I have not done on my SA profile). I offered FB a private email exchange, which I have done with several here. If he finds me so uninteresting, then not sure why he keeps following my posts and commenting on them 😉 oh, I forgot, he wants to see proof….but, then I tell him(not the first time)I will email him some proof, and wants to know why I want to email him? then, vicious cycle begins again, hahaha! It is so silly and infantile, but amusing.

  392. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Elaine

    “I have never met an SD being interested in -or having the time to write on- this blog.
    They use to spend their time in boardrooms, leading big companies and being responsable for tbe income and well being of thousands of families.”

    You are probably right. None of the SD’s who write on the blog are real. I have never managed to have an arrangement either.

    I am back to (my imaginary) work. Have a nice day :-).

  393. Josh says:

    There are other realities in play as well. The “real” SD does not need to join SA either. He is harassed by SB wanna be’s all day long. 😉

  394. Elaine says:

    @ Damned right Nicegirl!

    I have never met an SD being interested in -or having the time to write on- this blog.
    They use to spend their time in boardrooms, leading big companies and being responsable for tbe income and well being of thousands of families. :-)

    And yes, posting personal info here is a bad idea, and that knows our FatBlogCoward too.
    That is why he is challenging us SB to do so.

    But dont worry, the emailadress I have published is not my business or personal one! 😉
    And an eventual picture will not be traceable on the net.
    I keep myself low profile! 😉

  395. SouthernSB says:

    There’s nothing wrong with dating 70 yr. olds. I’m 50 and if I date a 70 yr. old then I’m the “baby.”

  396. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Kms2014, Elaine

    You are completely correct. I am scared to email either of you because I will be devastated by your awsomeness.

    I have actually met some blog personalities IRL. I only the normal/interesting ones though.

  397. nicegirl says:

    “Hence, what we write here does have community impact. SA blog and SA real life interactions are two overlapping communities.”

    There are a heck of a lot more views than posts. However there are a select few SD’s that have more time on their hands to post than you would think a professional would… hmmm makes me wonder about them!

  398. nicegirl says:

    Elaine and Kms… posting personal info here is a terrible idea. The volatile nature of some of the bloggers (male and female) alone makes me want to keep some anonymity. This is not the “friendliest” of groups and I could see even private correspondence via email becoming public if you piss the wrong person off.

  399. Jacob says:

    Hey, wait a second there, KMS, in all due respect, I did not “threaten” to out you. Before the gentleman honored you with an offer of opportunity to perpetuate your genes at his own cost and made you all tingly and proud of yourself, you totally mis-characterised my offer of genuine relationship to a different demographic group and tried to embarrass real life women in this community (both SA blog and SA) who might be interested in my offer; I just wanted to show you how you would feel if I merely put a few paragraphs of your own words together, without twisting or mis-characterizing, and put that into your community.

    Believe it or not, apparently enough people read blogs that blog conversation is relevant to the potential SB’s and SD’s that we meet in real life. Hence, what we write here does have community impact. SA blog and SA real life interactions are two overlapping communities.

  400. Josh says:

    If an “SB” wants to meet today, she’s probably an escort.

    If a “SB” wants to meet today because she is “horny” then she is definitely an escort.

    If an “SB” wants to get paid to have coffee, lunch or dinner with you then she is new, delusional, rinser or a combination thereof.

  401. Elaine says:

    @fatty

    If you have any balls, and are not only a sad bully or troll, bashing on KMS and me.

    My email is elaine sa blog at google mail.

  402. Kms2014 says:

    I meant, Jacob, has threatened to out me to my son’s school…as well as, there are many SBs on this blog who choose to keep some anonymity…however, will email with you privately.

  403. Elaine says:

    @FatB’StardSA

    You are right, I could not afford a Lamborghini, but even if I could, I would not choose for that one.
    It is shouting “Look at me, see how flashy I am!”
    Low self esteem.

    I would never feel comfortable in such car. I am not a flashy type.
    Prefer the less flashy, low profile, but as only experts know, more expensive classic car.

    And yes Fatty, women who take very good care of themselves, sport, healthy food, no alcohol, sigarettes, drugs, avoiding the sun. Some discrete plastical retouching when nesseccary, can be in a very good shape, as the nurtured classic cars.
    With shiny hair, good teeth skin and body and a little bit of genetic luck.

    Pity you don’t publish your email adress, would love to send you my profile number and seeing you having to swallow your words!

  404. Kms2014 says:

    Well, why so scared to give me your email? Why would I post my profile number on here…already, Jacob threatened to ‘out’ me to my son’s son. Plus, I pick and choose where and when I put myself out there. Am a mother, so not into advertising myself on a public blog with all of my private information up, which is harder to find, on SA.

    So, please, am inviting you to correspond with me, if you so wish, privately (:

  405. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Kms2014

    Who cares who you email with. You have your profile pictures on the site, so your pictures are already public.

    I still don’t know what you are going to prove to me through email.

  406. Kms2014 says:

    Besides, how would SBs ‘see’ what they need to do, by looking at my pictures, which is all you are interested in. You cannot really ‘teach’ anyone what to do, anyway, now can you? You either have something special to offer or you don’t, yes? Can you teach someone more than the obvious things…

  407. Kms2014 says:

    Come on, FB, post your email or have Kirsten email it to me….or, my email is listed on blog somewhere…..let us have a sweet talk privately, lol!

  408. Kms2014 says:

    I email privately with certain SBs already. I do not post my profile publicly for obvious reasons. Please, do give me your email and I will gladly indulge you 😉

  409. Jacob says:

    You do realize, it’s not selling your baby, right? but giving custody to the biological father. The courts routinely award custody of a child to one parent, and the other parent has to pay; whereas in the case, he is proposing he gets the custody and pays you, instead of you paying him for child support. LOL. IMHO, for many women in the low income strata, having a well off guy be the father of her child and let the father raise the child is not a bad deal for her own genetic future. However, she might try to negotiate for a better deal by trying to raise the child and demand child support from the father. That’s why I want to date the woman first, and make sure she is good enough to be the mother of my child, before getting her pregnant, instead of explicitly recruit surrogate mothers. For example, I do not want any mother who smokes or use drugs during pregnancy.

  410. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Kms2014

    What proof are you going to send? Why not post your profile number for all to see. Let all of the SB’s who have a hard time finding a SD see what they need to do!

  411. Kms2014 says:

    See, FB, I offered to email you my emails and screenshots, which have my profile picture on them. And, you don’t want to send me your email….have Kirsten email me your email, and I will happily email you or correspond any ‘proof’ you desire. Am sick with another cold, so working from home most this week. Have time to indulge your fantasy 😉 Ahaha!

  412. FatB'StardSA says:

    Before I forget. I would bet I have met more blog personalities in person than either you or Elaine.

    Have a nice day :-).

  413. Kms2014 says:

    @Jacob…I could never sell my baby. I am joking with the guy to see what his plan is, but my moral compass would never allow me to sell my own child, and not even be in his/her life, potentially….no matter how much money is offered….

  414. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Kms2014

    My email address is meaningless. If I gave my profile number it would only show that I am a FatB’Stard who is looking for an arrangement. If either you or Elaine provided your profile number you would only show how ridiculous your claims are.

  415. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Elaine

    Classic cars are restored. Old worn parts are replaced at great cost. It is a shame that people are not cars and cannot be maintained the same way.

    I won’t bother with your babbling about your “alpha” SD but I will add one thing. I doubt you will ever have the money to lease fluo yellow Lamborghini yourself.

  416. Kms2014 says:

    Yes, but he wrote if he approved of my parenting philosophies, then I could be in baby’s life, with a fixed income amount per month, in support?….

    Josh, did you find my profile somehow and messing with me 😉

  417. Jacob says:

    The payment would be compensation for your part time labor during the 9 months, not the baby itself.

  418. Jacob says:

    There is nothing illegal about giving up one’s child for adoption, much less giving custody to the biological father! In fact, the biological father would have the legal right to demand custody if you are incompetent. You would not be selling anything; you’d just be giving custody to the biological father, or declare no contest if he seeks custody via court after the baby is born. Filing some legal papers will just be a formality. Just make sure you get paid if your only interest in this is the money and having someone raising the baby for you, not your own participation in raising the baby.

  419. Kms2014 says:

    True, Elaine…maybe, FB will let me borrow his clothes, though, if I choose to sell my baby? Will need lots of big belly shirts.

  420. Elaine says:

    @kms

    FB is never going to give his profilenumber or email.
    People like him don’t want to be confronted with prove of things they don’t understand in their narrow minded and small world.

  421. Kms2014 says:

    He said I could stay in the baby’s life if he approved of how my philosophy on raising children is….I should ask if he is planning on writing up a contract..not a prenup, but a babynup? Is it legal to sell a baby to someone like that?

  422. Jacob says:

    I don’t think anyone can turn a profit on selling babies if his acquisition cost is $25k. There are babies overseas for adoption for $5-10k. When paying $25k and above, the guy obviously wants his own baby. Overseas surrogacy cost is only $10-15k to get one’s own baby, and many childless couples do that. Men in their 40’s think of babies because they are still young enough to raise babies, yet having married a wife of too close in age to themselves is proving difficult to have babies. The promotion of age-proximity in marriage is a very effective birth control: by the time the man is old enough and well established enough to support a large family, the wife’s fertility is already waning. The social engineers did not realize that the replacement population then has to come from the ghetto and over the border.

  423. Elaine says:

    Alexis, you are hilarious!

    “It’s like vehicles really though, IMO. Who would pay $100K for a 1992 Corolla? When one is putting that kind of money out they usually want something that looks good and has high performance, not something that’s falling apart on the road.”

    You know the prices for shiny, sleeky, very well kept and exclusive classic cars, don’t you? Jaguar, Mercedes…..
    Need to say more? 😉

    All a matter of taste….others prefer the flashy fluo yellow Lamborghini.
    Each to his own, no?

    “Still, I see a place for older women here as there are men on this site in their 70s.”

    Haha, dating a 70y old, serious?!
    Fortunally I don’t need to date men 25y my senior!

    @FB
    “No serious 50 year old SD would be able to handle the insults he would get from his friends when they found out he had a SB who is 40+”

    Well some men are in a position nobody would even consider insulting them. Those are the so called Alpha’s
    They don’t need arm candy to boost their selfesteem, they are so powerful they can just choose the mistress of THEIR choice, without giving a damn about what their sad beta and omega followers would say about it.

    That, my dear FB, of course is a reality you don’t know.
    For people with low selfesteem it is extremely important what their “friends” are thinking about them.
    Those are the (leased) fluo yellow Lamborghini drivers…. :-)

  424. Kms2014 says:

    Well, Jacob…I will say this…at least you want to have the women around raising your children. This guy emailed me that he would be fine with me leaving the picture, or, if I did want to raise the child, then he would have to know my plans and theories on raising children, first. It just sounds like he wants a surrogate, at the lowest price he can find…..

  425. Kms2014 says:

    I know, Josh, I suppose it is possible…putting the obvious offensive moral issues aside, isn’t ‘selling’ a baby against the law?

  426. Jacob says:

    @KMS
    That was not me, but I am glad to hear people are inspired by my idea and experimenting on their own. I do not approach women on the site with the offer (that’s why I air it on the blog instead, so they can be aware of it), because I do not want people date me for the explicit purpose of “baby-trapping” me. I prefer a relationship to develop “naturally” from a more casual one. Just like in a normal romantic relationship, her own behavior will earn more and longer term commitment from me, up to and including life-time support that is superior to the vast majority of marriages.

  427. FatB'StardSA says:

    I need some advise from the blog SB’s about something very important. I think the blog SB’s are used to dealing with such situations IRL (based on some of posts I read), and I could really use some advise.

    I have been in communication with Svetlana over the past 2 weeks. She is a 20 year old Russian supermodel who contacted me by email out of the blue. This young woman is completely in love with me. She is always writing me messages telling me she wants to feel my large manhood inside her. I have been trying to figure out how to bring her for a visit as I need to pay for her VISA and plane ticket.

    Just recently I have been blessed with some good fortune which may make Svetlana’s trip possible. I have been contacted by a man who is requesting my assistance in transferring one million Euro from his dead business partner’s estate. All I need is to provide my bank account information!

    My question is should I pay for a first class ticket for Svetlana and really impress her or get her a business class ticket which will let her know I am good with managing my money? The first class ticket is a lot of money but I am going to get a sizable amount of money helping my friend transfer the one million euro. What should I do?

  428. Josh says:

    “selling babies”

    Dang!

  429. Kms2014 says:

    Give me your email, FB, and I will send it to you! Already sent it to Josh and Elaine, ahahaha! Elaine made a good point, though…this guy might be in the market of selling babies….

  430. FatB'StardSA says:

    An early 40’s guy sends an email to a late 30’s woman wanting to rent her womb. This is an example of contemporary fantasy fiction.

  431. Kms2014 says:

    The guy is only offering $25,000… Think that is really really low balling me….so what if my eggs are old, and he is trying to get discount… 😉 hehehe!

  432. Kms2014 says:

    The guy who wants to rent my womb is in his early 40’s, though….isn’t that Sunshine’s age? Ahaha!

  433. Kms2014 says:

    I don’t think it is sunshine, Elaine, since he didn’t speak of baby Utopias….plus, I am out of his target age range, but is still hilarious and ironic that I get this email, Ahaha!

  434. Elaine says:

    Well I guess it IS Sunshine!! LMAO

  435. Josh says:

    “No serious 50 year old SD would be able to handle the insults he would get from his friends when they found out he had a SB who is 40+. A 50 year old SD dating a 40+ year old gold digger would bring MUCH less shame to said SD, and dating a 30+ year old gold digger would be expected. A 30+ year old SD who has a 40+ year old SB would not worry about being insulted by his friends because he would not have any friends.”

    Hahaha!

  436. Kms2014 says:

    @alexis, perhaps, you are speaking about SB’s over 45, but one of my SD’s is 35 and another one that I am seeing again is 49. Have had one who was 42 and one that was 28….one, I had, was 60, but he looked young and lied about his age, or I probably wouldn’t have met him. The 60 year old was strictly platonic, though. I would never date a 70 year old…well, not until I am 55 and over.

  437. Kms2014 says:

    Speaking of ‘old’ and even better…’old wombs’…where is sunshineforyouruterusofJacobprophecy? I don’t really use the site much anymore, since am seeing a couple of people, but keep it open for for certain reasons and one is amusement….someone actually emailed me the other day and wants to rent my old womb so they can have another child? Who’d a thunk it? SunshineSD has followers on site. What is the going rate?…I looked online and it said, ‘be a surrogate for $25,000-40,000 a year…this is so funny! I am currently messing with him to see the ‘details’ of his plan. I should introduce him and sunshine…they could be friends.

  438. Josh says:

    @FatB’StardSA

    I was taking it easy with meeting new SBs for the past few months. I will be more active in the next few weeks. 😉

  439. Alexis says:

    “It isn’t ‘paying’ for the woman, as no woman is free,…”

    This is true; however, I was speaking of cash only. You do raise a valid point though of an older SD wanting someone who doesn’t attract as much attention.

    It’s like vehicles really though, IMO. Who would pay $100K for a 1992 Corolla? When one is putting that kind of money out they usually want something that looks good and has high performance, not something that’s falling apart on the road.

    Still, I see a place for older women here as there are men on this site in their 70s.

  440. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Josh

    “For example, I am communicating with an absolutely gorgeous 40-something with pretty heavy and professional layers of make-up on. I am sure that she is doing well in the sugar world. But there are not that many 40-somethings who look that great.”

    You need to post less as meet more SB’s. There is no way you are successful on the site if you are wasting time this way.

  441. FatB'StardSA says:

    “No serious older man wants to have to explain why he is out with someone else’s youngest daughter. I imagine you are in high demand because there are very few attractive 40+ women on this site.”

    No serious 50 year old SD would be able to handle the insults he would get from his friends when they found out he had a SB who is 40+. A 50 year old SD dating a 40+ year old gold digger would bring MUCH less shame to said SD, and dating a 30+ year old gold digger would be expected. A 30+ year old SD who has a 40+ year old SB would not worry about being insulted by his friends because he would not have any friends.

  442. Kms2014 says:

    I don’t really tout myself as an older woman on site…it is what it is. If someone thinks I am old and mature, then whatever. will take as a compliment, I guess 😉 Some are here for much younger asses and there are plenty who don’t mind over 30 as well, since they are clicking on your pictures, regardless. Who cares, really? To each their own.

  443. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    Both you and Elaine are exception to the rule in different ways. So I hope that the two of you put a lot of disclaimers when you say that older women can do well here.

    For example, I am communicating with an absolutely gorgeous 40-something with pretty heavy and professional layers of make-up on. I am sure that she is doing well in the sugar world. But there are not that many 40-somethings who look that great.

  444. Elaine says:

    First mail from an SD in his early 50ies:

    “No serious older man wants to have to explain why he is out with someone else’s youngest daughter. I imagine you are in high demand because there are very few attractive 40+ women on this site.”

    There is hope for us, “mature”, ladies! 😉

  445. Josh says:

    Keep in mind that everything she told me is years after the “fact” so there must be interpretation and reinterpretation involved.

    She claimed that she did not like him romantically because he was short. Now, was being short an issue before the “fact” or after the “fact”.

    The “fact” was…drum roll please…

    “fact”:

    He told her that he wanted to meet her (48+ yaear-old at the time) because he was tired of dating 20-somethings and wanted to date “mature” women close to his age.

    But after meeting her he decided to go back to 20-somethings. 😉

    Some may suggest that he may not have been too much into her specifically. But then he could have gone to other “mature” women.

    So FB is correct. Men here are for young asses. They “may” go for older asses occasionally due to whatever, but they will not seek out older asses because they might be better for them.

  446. Kms2014 says:

    @Josh, you need to meet more women than just one 52 year old(and past 40 something) to come to this mature woman analysis, don’t you think? Hehe, what do you consider a ‘mature’ or older woman, by the way? Just older than you, or older than 30?

  447. Kms2014 says:

    True. let it be known…am in no way shape or form against any man(or, woman) who can get ‘free’ relationships…whatever that means to each person, whether it is free emotionally or free financially(or both). More power to them….although, this pure and unadulterated type of relationship must be rare, yes?

  448. Josh says:

    But that’s what the breakup sex is all about. 😉

  449. Josh says:

    But, what if one day she rolls over and says, ‘I think I love you’. There goes your free FB ;)”

    LOL! That’d be brutal…

  450. Josh says:

    @650S

    I don’t think that she expected any arrangement payments either. She’s looking for her knight in the shinning armour.

    I don’t know even if she would have asked me for any arrangement money before she put out. However, I am 100% sure that she wanted something or the other from me sooner or later.

    Meeting her was primarily for experimental purposes, and some other things she said will throw a big bucket of ice cold water on those who suggest that meeting “mature” women has some intrinsic benefits compared to meeting the 20-something coeds.

  451. Kms2014 says:

    Depends…if SD is older a married man, but wants an SB that will not be half his age, so it will not draw attention to them, when they go out, then he could want someone that is closer to his age. If he is attractive enough, and rich, smart, ect…then, he could just have an affair for ‘free’….however, with a mistress or an SB, then the woman already knows the boundries(hopefully), and when their relationship is over, then he does not have to worry about any ‘bunny boiling’ syndrome. It isn’t ‘paying’ for the woman, as no woman is free, even in an affair that isn’t allowance based…it is paying for her time, in that she could be spending it with a non-married man, and is paying for her discretion…and is paying for her to leave. This can also work for single men, if they do not want any long-term expectations and do not want to deal with a woman who might develop feelings or want more.

    Of course, nothing is free….unless, you just have a F***buddy, who comes over, then leaves…and never wants trips, date nights…ect., ect…that might be ‘free’. But, what if one day she rolls over and says, ‘I think I love you’. There goes your free FB 😉

  452. Alexis says:

    Never pay for what you can get for free.

  453. Kms2014 says:

    I meant, when I worked at gym, many years ago, I saw quite a few women 40+ and higher, who were very into health and fitness, and keeping up with their looks. It is definitely more maintenance as you get older….is why you need more money allotted for this as you age, unfortunately, hehe. It can be a lot of upkeep, but eating well, staying positive and exercising can keep you looking attractive.

  454. Kms2014 says:

    Mary Louise Parker looks pretty hot for 50…and have always had a thing for, Helen Mirren(she still looks so attractive at 69, I think?). Of course, I realise these are extreme and celebrity examples, but still, when if worked at gym, the women who were beautiful to begin with, ate healthy and took care of their bodies still looked quite nice.

    @650, not all American lassies are trolls, hehe. There is one extreme or the other, it seems. Either very overweight, or the healthy, but extreme workout, too skinny gals. There is not as much middle ground as UK. The women, in UK, looked more ‘meaty’ than American skinny, but there was much less morbidly obese there. Men told me there that they did not like the American celebrity type Hollywood skinny there.

    By the way, never saw as many overweight people as I did in rural Virginia, over the summer….must be something in the water(or, big gulp soda cups).

  455. Kms2014 says:

    Hmm, 650… Are you Scottish? Just curious…would you add, Madeline Stowe to your list of 50+?

  456. 650S FTW says:

    Josh – over 45, and you were GOING to pay her. Christie Brinkley yes, 99.9% of other women, especially American trolls have a better chance of winning lotto than geeting any loot from me

  457. 650S FTW says:

    I was a tee-totaller for a long time…… my friends would order me Shirly Temples as a joke… I would up the ante by asking for a little umbrella and a slice of fruit for my cocktail.

    I like women who take care to look feminine.. would anyone seriously meet a man who may pay them upwards of 10k$ a month look shabby and with dirty nails…….. then again if I am on a SA meeting I am NOT looking at the young lassie’s nails folks

  458. Josh says:

    SayWhat?

  459. Oh no…

    Not VirginSeekerOrdersAshirleytemple…

  460. Josh says:

    @yougottajustforgetaboutthighgapthen

  461. Alexis says:

    It’s hard to tell if she has a good thigh-gap because of the way she’s walking and because it’s so very brief.

  462. Josh says:

    It may be the last resort criteria, bit I don’t think that’s the main criteria. LOL!

  463. Anyway…

    I’m a bit disturbed by this whole thigh-gap phenomenon. I mean…I have thigh gap, and always have, but never knew that it was a thing that teenagers and women were starving themselves and having surgery to achieve. And some of the photoshopped images? ygbkm. Is a healthy body proportionate to height and genetic disposition not sexy? “Operation Thigh Gap”?

    Wow.

  464. Hey!!! The numbers next to posts are back!

    Can anyone else see them?? Or is my phone playing tricks on me?

  465. Whatdya mean? The light shined right through it.

  466. Josh says:

    Yep 2.01 that’s what I was referring to as well. But it does not clearly show the thigh gap per se.

    You can just “guess” that she has a body good enough to be recruited for the video so she might have a nice thigh gap.

  467. “Josh says:
    August 25, 2014 at 5:23 am
    yougottabeshowingmethethighgap

    Which frame are you referring to in the video?”

    Ha.

    02:01

  468. Josh says:

    “I feel sorry that you finally dated an 45+ and it turned out so bad…. :-(”

    Don’t be sorry. It was all for a good “cause”. 😉

    “I can guarantee you, there are dateable intelligent and sexy 45+ on this site! Don’t give up!”

    By the same token, I can guarantee you, there are dateable intelligent and sexy 18+ on this site! and I am not giving up on anyone.

    The difference between a man and a woman is that as the man ages his dating horizen keeps expanding AS LONG AS he keeps his health and finances in order. LOL!

  469. nicegirl says:

    @Elaine,

    “Have to agree to @RSD though, recent pics are even more important at our age.
    Being it a bad surprise, or a nice one! 😉
    Although I really don’t understand why people would use old pics…..the truth comes out anyway!
    What are those people thinking…?”

    SD’s do the same thing – showing older pics and then you show up and they look nothing like what you thought. I have wondered why on earth would you want to do that because, like you said, the truth will come out eventually if you meet. I think that they are in a bit of denial about how they actually look and think that their personality will take them beyond the pic… This might be true in a traditional dating scenario of meeting someone and finding them more attractive after getting to know them. Unfortunately, your first impression is the only one your are going to have here. I too feel badly that Josh’s first venture (outside of the hot 43yo) was a bad one. I know not all women over 40 are needy like that. That is quite a swing to go from 22 to 52…

  470. Josh says:

    No Elaine. I am tall, dark and handsome enough for her to meet me again. Which i doubt from my end. She related story of another SD she met through SA who did not meet her romantic criteria even though he has continually been very nice to her as a “friend”.

  471. Elaine says:

    @ Poor Josh….

    What went wrong? Aren’t you tall, dark and handsome?
    Or not a knight in shinning armour? 😉

    I feel sorry that you finally dated an 45+ and it turned out so bad…. :-(

    I can guarantee you, there are dateable intelligent and sexy 45+ on this site!
    Don’t give up!

    Have to agree to @RSD though, recent pics are even more important at our age.
    Being it a bad surprise, or a nice one! 😉
    Although I really don’t understand why people would use old pics…..the truth comes out anyway!
    What are those people thinking…?

    @ Fatb.

    So maybe for my SD it was a nice surprise? LOL

  472. nicegirl says:

    As she walked up the stairs in her white tight pants her thighs were touching… which is normal btw.

  473. nicegirl says:

    That woman did not have what is traditionally called a “thigh gap” she had a great body …which was my point earlier. The “gap” does not define a nice figure, your body type either has it or is doesn’t. A woman that doesn’t naturally have a Bowed thigh will have to be emaciated to have a gap between her thighs. This is just a poor standard of what is attractive as a general rule

  474. Josh says:

    yougottabeshowingmethethighgap

    Which frame are you referring to in the video?

  475. Josh says:

    Even though the video showed only one frame of her thigh area, from back mind you, she probably has a nice thigh gap.

    Just Google “thigh gap” and watch pictures of all kinds of thigh gaps.

    Mannequins are generally built with unnatural thigh gaps to excentuate the phenomenon.

  476. Yep…that’s thigh gap.

  477. RSD says:

    Recent picture is more critical when dating a 50 year old than a 20 year old.

    And she does not bring maturity in many if not most people.

  478. Josh says:

    It wasn’t the picture that put me off.

    What put me off was that here I was sitting with an allegedly 52 year-old and having a conversation as if I were with a really old-looking 22 year-old.

    She was still looking for the tall, dark and handsome knight in the shinning armour to take care of her.

  479. So, much to some’s dismay…

    I do not send digital images of myself. My profile pic, which is visible enough to give you an idea of my physique and facial structure, is all I share. Might be why–among the many other reasons my Joshylove has mentioned–I will never find a benefactor.

    But I don’t mind much :).

    The two gentlemen I recently met sufficed for my profile pic. Another, however, said no pic = deal breaker. No breakup sex, obviously.

    I suppose I could’ve sent a 4-year dated picture to bait him. Not my style, though.

  480. FatB'StardSA says:

    @SouthernSB

    “@FatB’StardSA-You misunderstand the three kids weren’t his, the three kids were hers and he married her anyway. I think it’s pretty good karma for a guy who “hit me and split me” and totally ruined my reputation.”

    No misunderstanding. Any man that would do this would be a disaster, but at least he bought into a ready made family. A total disaster would be if he was stupid enough to support her and her three kids while she dated other people!

  481. FatB'StardSA says:

    @Elaine

    “Oh oh…., who is going to tell my SD he is a total disaster!?”

    He is most probably mentally unstable and would not realize the the horror of his situation even if I pointed it out to him.

  482. Elaine says:

    @ Josh

    The date of every picture is traceable.
    ( EXIF )

    In case it is removed (I doubt if a lot of people would know how to do that) it should raise a red flag!

    Another way (Dumb!) is trying to get info about the pics via Tineye or Google image search.

  483. Elaine says:

    @ Josh

    You could have avoided this by asking recent pic, with paper with your name on it in her hands. Or Skype.

    @D Dub

    Shouldn’t your name be D Dumb if you have even considered to send money to a (probably fake) picture after having been insulted by this (maybe Nigeria based) “fun” beauty?

    A real SB invests her time in getting to know her pot. SD, and yes, that means loosing time on fakes and flakes sometimes !
    And yes, that is very irritating, but that is OUR investment in sugar, only rinsers expect to get money in this stage!

  484. Josh says:

    My oldest date has been 43 year-old hot mama. I would not trade her for no 33 year old or even 23 year-old.

    For the sake of experience, I went on date with the 52 year-old whom I chatted yesterday.

    Not even close to how she looked in the picture. Found out that the picture was 4 years ago.

    Well, she has nothing together. As clueless as a 22 year-old and literally told me that she was still looking for her “knight in the shinning armour” to “take care of her as every other woman wants.”

    FB is dang right. There’s no benefit in dating older women on SA. I am back to my 22 year-olds.

  485. Josh says:

    “Ten dumb things SD’s do with their resources

    # 1 Advance payments
    # 2 Play rescue daddy to a professional victim
    # 3 Believe she will become more reliable
    #4 Reward bad behavior”
    #5 Really dumb something or the other
    #6 Really really dumb dumb something or the other
    #7 Really really really dumb dumb dumb something or the other
    #8 Really really really really dumb dumb dumb dumb something or the other
    #9 Really really really really really dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb something or the other
    #10 Really really really really really really dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb dumb something or the other

  486. flyR says:

    @DDubs ” I need to send her $200. She said it was because it would prove that I’m “real” and if I’m a true SD, $200 shouldn’t be a big deal.”

    You owe her an immense debt of gratitude. She’s saved you

    the mental cost of further discussion
    driving to meet
    the cost of two cups of coffee , her gas money, babysitter for non existent children, sleepless nights wondering why you got connected with such a sleezbag. The only time I might make an early present was if it was totally unexpected.

    This is the female version of the SD, I need a free sample to know if I want to start a relationship…..

    Ten dumb things SD’s do with their resources

    # 1 Advance payments
    # 2 Play rescue daddy to a professional victim
    # 3 Believe she will become more reliable
    #4 Reward bad behavior

    Unless you are back in the swamps there are plenty of awesome, honest, sexy women on SA. The send me cash pretender may well be a hooker who finds this a good part time gig (charging to talk).

    Somewhat to my surprise I’m seeing a lot more quality 25-45 yo ( I do not have a pic so I am not on the random featured profiles, have not changed the profile for some time and I am not searching. I think it is more about the economy and perhaps Brandon’s marketing towards the college set has a lot of graduates thinking about what they missed.

  487. Josh says:

    Japanese consider merkin nasty. So any movie containing merkins has to go through marbling to hide merkins.

  488. Miscellaneous/open forum created! :) Also, if there are any technical issues that come up with posting/permissions let me know…again, a learning curve with any platform, but especially with technology and me. haha

  489. Josh says:

    I am 101% sure that FlyR considers that merkin is hot.

  490. Josh says:

    I know only a woman or you-know-who would consider a merkin “hot”.

  491. Josh says:

    No you don’t. Just take a picture with whatever you got naturally, ir we wait. 😉

  492. RSD says:

    To log into paypal you use an email but if you want to transfer the money from paypal to your bank account or to another paypal account, then the account will have to bear your name and when someone sends money to the account, they can see the recipient’s name.

  493. Maybe I could wear a merkin.

  494. Josh says:

    But I need to see your drenched bush’s pictures or video to take your challenge. 😉

  495. Josh says:

    I have no interest in D Dub’s bush’s pictures or video. He sends it to you.

  496. In fact, nominate her for the ice water bush challenge. If she’s serious about being an SB, and she cares about ALS, she’ll do it.

    Is she says anything…and I mean ANYTHING about not wanting to get her bush wet…

    DUMP HER ASS IMMEDIATELY, and then demand that she drink your pedicure water.

  497. Josh says:

    @yougottabepayingattention

    RSD maybe fascinated by mannequin-looking coeds but he’s no dummy. 😉

  498. Or is it?

    I somehow remember using only a username.

  499. My PayPal account is not registered in my name.

  500. “Josh says:
    August 24, 2014 at 7:32 pm
    An even more interesting scenario would be to donate $200 to ALS.

    Then put two buckets of iced water on your bush and challenge yougottabedrenchingyourbushpronto to do the same. ”

    Challenge accepted!

    D Dub!! If you dump two buckets of ice water on your bush, send Josh photographic or video evidence, and donate $200 to ALS, I will follow suit, and Josh will match your donation. I will then nominate JacobOfYourBush to take the challenge!

    You in?!

  501. Josh says:

    @D Dubs

    Curious…are you really green?

    Why would you ever, ever, EVER (I guess those are enough evers for this post) want a woman’s opinion in dealing with another woman?

  502. D Dubs says:

    Good idea on the test payment. There are many beautiful girls on the site. I’d prefer one without quite the same sense of entitlement. That’s the main thing to me, more than the amount. And then there is the thought of how many men is she getting a similar payment from? Being played is no fun either.

  503. D Dubs says:

    She claimed flaked on too often. Of course I didn’t agree, which prompted some I insults so I don’t think it will be anything I would persue. I’m curious if the ladies have any opinions on this.

  504. RSD says:

    If the girl is hot enough, $200 to paypal may be ok. I’d see it as a gamble and when you paypal money you find out their legal name. But I’d first send a $1 test payment to find out the name, do some cyber research on the person, then send $199 more if they appear to be for real. But this would only be if I am that into the girl which would be unlikely.

  505. RSD says:

    What’s a wrap dress?!
    I guess I’m too straight to know different dress styles have names.

  506. Josh says:

    An even more interesting scenario would be to donate $200 to ALS.

    Then put two buckets of iced water on your bush and challenge yougottabedrenchingyourbushpronto to do the same. 😉

  507. nicegirl says:

    @DDubs… smells fishy to me. Don’t do it… You know all of her beautiful pics may not actually be her. Have you ever heard of the movie / show called Catfish?

  508. Or don’t do it, dump two buckets of ice water over your head, and donate the money to ALS.

    Request for $200 after half hour of texting? She’s either been flaked on quite a bit, or she’s up to shady business. Either way…what’s two weeks to wait in the big scheme of things?

  509. Josh says:

    @D Dubs

    Or you do it only to whine about it after a few days? 😉

  510. D Dubs,

    Don’t do it, friend.

  511. “ss1959 says:
    August 24, 2014 at 6:06 pm
    @Spoon

    How about a “General” or “Open” forum for the sort of stream of consciousness stuff that makes up most of the conversation here and doesn’t really fit one of the categories.”

    I like that.

  512. D Dubs says:

    Okay, something that just happened irritated me so I had to come in here and get some opinions.
    Within 30 minutes of texting a potential SB, she tells me too many men on the site have wasted her time and if I want to continue getting to know her, I need to send her $200. She said it was because it would prove that I’m “real” and if I’m a true SD, $200 shouldn’t be a big deal.

    I say if she finds five suckers from this site to do this each week, that’s a $52,000 a year job tax free. She is pretty beautiful in her pictures and seems pretty smart and fun, so I can see many guys pulled in.

    Not me, though. I would provide something similar for a first date, but unfortunately I won’t be to her town in business for about two weeks.

    Thoughts on this?

  513. ss1959 says:

    @Spoon

    How about a “General” or “Open” forum for the sort of stream of consciousness stuff that makes up most of the conversation here and doesn’t really fit one of the categories.

  514. Glad you’re enjoying your time with your family :).

  515. Jacob says:

    No worries. I have been having fun with the kids and the ex-wife in the alpine woods for our end-of-summer vacation together. The hotel wifi signal is good, but little time for online chats. Almost exactly 70 years ago, the Allied powers gathered in this exact hotel to hammer out the global financial system that would rebuild the world out of the ashes of WWII; a system whose legacy exists to this day and influences all our daily lives. The grand hotel/resort is a neat place to teach the kids how the world really works.

  516. Josh says:

    Sweetheart, it’s all talk unless pix are involved. No? 😉

  517. sexyrockstar says:

    Okay…I’m only attracted to skinny girls..

    I’m 5″4, size ten. I have a huge round ass, and perky size C cups. Guess what…I gap. Why? I have perfect round thighs, but they don’t jiggle. I’m sexy and I know it. You don’t need to be a size zero to have one.

    Amen to taco bell and old style beer giving me my beautiful body.

  518. Josh says:

    You guys are gonna wake up JacobOfYourReputationAndDisasterProjects…”

    Nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!

  519. Josh says:

    “yougottabedrenchingyourbushincoldwateralready”

    I still haven’t gotten your bush pic. Why you holdin’ out, babe?”

    When your bush is grown and photographed then let me know. You can’t challenge me unless you have drenched yours. 😉

  520. You guys are gonna wake up JacobOfYourReputationAndDisasterProjects…

  521. Elaine says:

    Oh oh…., who is going to tell my SD he is a total disaster!?

    …..A shoesalesman??

    It will make him laugh his pants off!

  522. I’m just saying, I’d write the check, and pass in the water.

  523. “Josh says:
    August 24, 2014 at 1:09 pm
    Holding breath for 60 seconds does not have the same video dramatics as the ice bucket. Again get over it.

    Long live the ice bucket!!! ”

    “@yougottabedrenchingyourbushincoldwateralready”

    I still haven’t gotten your bush pic. Why you holdin’ out, babe?

  524. Josh says:

    Wrong move. God made him do that as a punishment of sorts. He should’ve stayed this woman’s project while she remained the state’s SB.

  525. Josh says:

    I had thought that it was the 50s when reputation meant something. Maybe I read the wrong Cosmo article. 😉

  526. SouthernSB says:

    @FatB’StardSA-You misunderstand the three kids weren’t his, the three kids were hers and he married her anyway. I think it’s pretty good karma for a guy who “hit me and split me” and totally ruined my reputation. And not only that this was way back in 1979 when reputations meant something. LOL!!

  527. nicegirl says:

    Welcome back FB… Josh has missed you 😉

  528. FatB'StardSA says:

    “He was a total disaster. I heard that he married a woman that was 10 yrs. older than he was and already had three kids.”

    At least he married her so he is only a disaster. He would be a total disaster if he would get a SB who is 10 years older than him with children.

  529. nicegirl says:

    @Southern… That is terrible, so sorry that your first time was with a total douche.

  530. nicegirl says:

    I don’t think it is necessary to have a professional manicure or even polish you nails. I do think you should have your names nicely cared for, shaped and kept clean. This should be basic hygiene not necessarily “pampering”

  531. SouthernSB says:

    Terrible he denied everything and I became an outcast at school. I didn’t even get my groove back until I hit my 20’s. He was a total disaster. I heard that he married a woman that was 10 yrs. older than he was and already had three kids.

  532. nicegirl says:

    *you… Beat me to it – lol

  533. Josh says:

    That’s irrelevant for the most part.

    More importantly, how was he as a project?

  534. nicegirl says:

    @Southern, @Elizabeth
    I beat me to it, a wrap dress is classic for all ages and body types. You can find very sexy styles and more conservative styles. They are classy and comfortable and versatile in terms of where they can be worn, day to evening or an afternoon of shopping… Or even getting your nails done ( or not) 😉

  535. SouthernSB says:

    @Josh
    He was very cute and very popular and I was a late bloomer.

  536. Josh says:

    @KMS you don’t have mail from me.

  537. Josh says:

    SouthernSB

    “If someone would have told me that I would have stayed a virgin longer.”

    Methinks virginity is a price many women are willing to pay to sign a man up as her project. So if you learnt something…anything… from that project then it was justied.

    However, if he blew you off right afterwards to get in line of another project-seeker, then… 😉

  538. SouthernSB says:

    Josh says:
    August 24, 2014 at 1:04 pm

    @Elizabeth
    Josh says:
    Smart woman! 😉

    That said, by all means, do it when/if you feel like it and NOT for any male idiot.

    If someone would have told me that I would have stayed a virgin longer. 😉

  539. SouthernSB says:

    @Elizabeth
    That’s the thing about the wrap dress,it looks good on everyone. It doesn’t matter if you weigh 90 lbs. or 300 lbs., 18 or 80 you are going to look good in a wrap dress. It’s as much as a classic as the Marilyn halter dress or the always right LBD. A good wrap dress with the right length and the right cut can make even a girl with “the less than perfect dimensions” feel like a million bucks at a daytime or early evening event, it’s a double whammy if she has a LBWD, heck that’s good for everything!!
    BTW @ KMS-You have mail, and thank you from the bottom of my over sensitive heart.

  540. Josh says:

    Now this is someone I would like to meet up to have some fun… 😉

    About Me
    I’m very sweet and fun! I would love to meet someone to have fun with. :)

    What I’m looking for
    I’m looking for someone to have fun with! I would like a mutually beneficial relationship that is fun, not complicated. :)

  541. Josh says:

    Holding breath for 60 seconds does not have the same video dramatics as the ice bucket. Again get over it.

    Long live the ice bucket!!! 😉

  542. Josh says:

    @Elizabeth

    Smart woman! 😉

    That said, by all means, do it when/if you feel like it and NOT for any male idiot.

  543. Josh says:

    @yougottabedrenchingyourbushincoldwateralready

    Ice bucket is a $50 million (and counting) success. Those who have taken the challenge are not stupid people. Get over it, get some ice and do it alreay. 😉

  544. flyR says:

    spoon thanks

  545. In fact, I challenge each of you to hold your breath for, let’s say 60 seconds*, and imagine it being your last breath. Then tell me if you think you’d find more reward in your donation than having dumped a bucket of ice water over your head.

    *Do not attempt this if you have a history of respiratory distress, cardiac distress or abnormal balance. Be sure that you are in a seated position with no sharp objects or hazards around you :).

  546. Elizabeth says:

    hmm my impression of wrap dresses is that they are quite dated and something a lot of middle aged women look good in, but not a spry 20 something that can pull off anything else in the same category. Also about the nails… I feel embarrassed to say I never get them done :) I never think to buy nailpolish when I’m out either. No one has ever noticed really. I suppose it depends on who you are with, or maybe even yourself.

  547. “flyR says:
    August 24, 2014 at 11:39 am
    ” bucket of ice water or check” why not both ……”

    I equate a bucket of ice water over one’s head to a pie in one’s face…silliness, really. It in know way shapes my (or anyone else’s?) sentiment or support of ALS, and I’m not at all impressed by participants’ (famous or otherwise) willingness to participate.

    So why not both?

    Why not–instead of dumping ice water over your head to post on your twitter, Facebook or Instagram page–spending a day ambulating by wheelchair or walker, or eating a puréed diet with all of your meals processed in a blender, or telling your limbs to move only to have them not respond. Or for just one of your daily bowel or bladder movements, try going on yourself instead of in the toilet. Or try holding your breath for 90 seconds to get an idea of how many people with ALS experience their last living moments before they die of respiratory failure.

    Then I might be impressed. But a silly bucket of water over someone’s head? Who cares?

  548. Spoonfuldeazucar says:

    flyR – If you scroll down to the bottom of the page in the site map there is a “Terms & Conditions” link that talks about privacy and sharing in the “Use of Your Personal Data” section.

  549. Josh says:

    “@spoon is the information on the blog and user info shared by the host”

    Dumb

    Since the message was too short flyR didn’t get an opportunity to right the dumber part.

    The answer is “duh!”

  550. Josh says:

    @RSD

    “I don’t require a thigh gap”

    C’mon man. You brought it up and now you’re backtracking?

    By the way, I don’t “require” it either, but it’s cute when it’s there. Won’t you agree? 😉

  551. Thomas S. says:

    @ Josh

    Touche, and you’re welcome! I do appreciate your feedback

  552. RSD says:

    I don’t require a thigh gap; as pointed out already, I didn’t know what that was until I heard about it on the blogs. However, skinny is my type. I can’t help it and I don’t think media dictates my type at all, since my type is not stereotypical at all.

  553. flyR says:

    @spoon is the information on the blog and user info shared by the host

  554. flyR says:

    ” bucket of ice water or check” why not both ……

    We opted out of this as they seemed to be getting a lot of money. Had been a prior supporter of two women’s round the world flight in support.

    I like donors choose in that you get to pick specific micro projects to support and in some cases there are matching funds (Gates foundation offered one million of matching funds for individual donations this weekend so donations went twice as far)

    I should have mentioned that new SB came with tattoos …….

  555. Josh says:

    Its nice to see someone taking the initiative.

  556. Thanks! If you have any ideas/comments/suggestions feel free to let me know and contribute whatever you want! I just tried to come up with some categories I knew had been discussed in the comments before, but I’m sure there are many, many more.

  557. Spoonful,

    Way to take the initiative!

  558. Well…possibly…depending on the amount of surrounding tissue.

    Someone should conduct a study.

  559. Josh says:

    I sometimes wonder if the thigh gap affects kegel.

  560. Josh says:

    @RSD

    The real thigh gap is the gap right at the vagina lips. Some women are confused in thinking that bowed thighs represent the thigh gap. It’s neither here nor there as it’s NOT the real thigh gap.

  561. Kms2014 says:

    I agree…promoting anyone to look a certain way is more of a ‘media’ trick, than anything else based in reality. Some men will follow the newest body type trend or ‘it’ girl trend or what is spoon fed to them by mass media, and say that is their taste. Remember the ‘heroin chic’ back in the day with Kate Moss? Much like the gentleman you mentioned before, who did not think Kim Kardashon, or whatever her name is, went around sans any make up and is fresh faced, hehe. Just laugh at these silly men and their easily influenced by pop culture media to prefer a certain type based on vacuous drivel or what their male friends might think. After a certain age, many men decide for themselves and have other tastes as to what they fancy…and that includes a brain with a hot body.

    .

  562. nicegirl says:

    @Kms… Thank you for the info. I was really hoping that was in jest but you never know around here. I have a very good friend that has battled with an eating disorder her entire life and I am a little sensitive to anything that promotes it.

  563. PS – Leave me feedback…the design is pretty basic right now, since I literally just created it. That will be fixed as soon as I know a little more! :) Please use your head and be civil within the forum.

  564. Ask and it shall be delivered. – Forum created!

    If you click on my name it should lead to it. I don’t know if I can share the link in a reply on here.

  565. Kms2014 says:

    Pay them any attention*

  566. Kms2014 says:

    Nicegirl…don’t pay them any mention, lol. It is a joke from some past posts. RSD didn’t even know what a thigh gap was, until I mentioned it on blog awhile back. RSD doesn’t mind his SB’s to have eating disorders, in order for them to stay thin to his liking 😉 This conversation is as silly as the one way back….everyone has their own taste. Some men like a little meat, curvy or more muscle… nice feet, whatever….while others like stick thin or huge breasts. It is the most boring conversation topic, though.

  567. nicegirl says:

    Are SD’s really choosing an based on a gap between a woman’s thighs or is this some kind of joke? A woman with a “thigh gap”or not shouldn’t dictate if she has a nice body or not or if she is fat or thin. That term sounds like we are teenagers chatting in a locker room and everyone must look one way to be acceptably beautiful. I wonder how many of the “SD’s” that require a woman to have a gap between her thighs can see their own feet when standing straight…. My guess is few.

    A woman should be healthy, fit and feel confident about herself. Not worry about some stupid gap that a fashion magazine says you need to have – Crazy!

  568. Josh says:

    Unless the chubbier girl has smaller butt don’t listen to your friend.

  569. RSD says:

    I am only attracted to super skinny girls. But a friend of mine told me on Friday that chubbier girls are tighter and more fun in bed. I doubt I’ll ever find out.

  570. Josh says:

    @RSD

    My current one has nice gap. I am going to refrain from chubby women in the future. There’s no gap there.

  571. “@yougottaditchgappedanalysismydear”

    K, love

  572. “RSD says:
    August 24, 2014 at 6:21 am
    The only gap analysis I do is to check for a thigh gap”

    Ha. I like that.

  573. RSD says:

    The only gap analysis I do is to check for a thigh gap

  574. Josh says:

    Gapped analysis is oftentimes used as a joke by feigning misunderstanding. However, oftentimes people involuntarily engaged in it. 😉

  575. Josh says:

    @yougottaditchgappedanakysismydear

    FlyR says:
    August 19, 2014 at 5:30 pm
    The curse of part II is upon us.

    Isn’t sugar just like prostitution ?

    No

    Why not

    It’s not paying for sex

    Well you are paying for something

    That’s true but it not sex. I can find sex without sugar and with attractive females

    So what are you paying for

    IBT. Insurance

    .? What’s that

    Sugar relationship means never having to hear the fearsome relationship words

    I’ve been thinking

    Josh says:
    August 19, 2014 at 5:53 pm
    Regardless of how fancy words they use when referring to women some people’s mind remains in the sewer. 😉

  576. Josh says:

    Gapped analysis?

  577. ““If you have prostitute as an option in your life then you are not looking for an SB, you’re looking for a different kind of prostitute.”

    It appeared here–and please excuse me if I misinterpreted–that you might also?

  578. Josh says:

    The His Intelligeneness also thinks that sugar = prostitution. 😉

  579. “Josh says:
    August 24, 2014 at 5:01 am
    @yougottabebushingme

    If you believe that he has an SB, then I have a bridge to sell in Brooklyn. Interested? ”

    FlyR seems like an intelligent gentleman with a benevolent approach to sugar. It doesn’t at all surprise me that he has reeled in such a lovely catch. In fact, dear, I think that you (and others) could probably benefit by appreciating and perhaps considering more of what he shares. You are a bit cynical, my love, and I think that extreme cynicism can ultimately limit your possibilities for experiencing happiness. I say this, of course, with all my love…and slowly growing bush.

  580. nicegirl says:

    @FlyR… Dumb and dumber = peek instead of pique… IMHO. Sometimes intelligence intimidates those that are less fortunate in that department. 😉

  581. “flyR says:

    @joshie – Not understanding why you are so anti George Bush and family. My guess is that it relates to your guilt over the current chief golfer in command.”

    I don’t think that Josh said anything that was anti-George Bush, though indeed anti-Laura was clearly expressed. I was initially confused as to why he was up in arms about the ice bucket thing. While I do feel that his sentiments toward women in general–not just Laura–can be rash, and possibly held in some deeper rooted convictions, I think that he mostly felt that Laura’s bait and switch prank was disrespectful to George’s presidency and his desire to maintain a certain degree of dignity and integrity which you express the current president lacks by playing golf in the midst of critical national and global events. In short, I think that, in Josh’s opinion, Laura’s stunt earned her the golden “rinser” label. As if he doesn’t already seem innately? conditionally? disgruntled toward women, “rinsers” are some of the worst kind, in his book.

    Just my observation, but I could be completely wrong.

    In the general sense, politics removed…I dont blame her (or anyone else for that matter) for not wanting to dump ice water over their head, and opting simply to write the check.

  582. Josh says:

    “Perhaps ditch the t shirt for a blouse for a little more refined.”

    I don’t know of any man who dates females and writes/speaks like this.

  583. Josh says:

    @gtt_envy

    Imaginary SBs can be anything one wants them to be, impromptu. 😉

  584. Josh says:

    @yougottabebushingme

    If you believe that he has an SB, then I have a bridge to sell in Brooklyn. Interested? 😉

  585. Josh says:

    @flyR
    “Not understanding…”

    It’s OK FlyR. breath in breath out. That’s “the authentic you”, exactly the way God made you. If you understood anything, you wouldn’t be writing dumb and dumber posts. 😉

    The “Bush family” who has served the nation at the federal level are Bush senior and Bush junior. The females in the junior’s household are dumb and dumber just like you and CANNOT be credited with anything you listed.

    I feel sorry for your imaginary SB. 😉

  586. “I’ve been blessed with a much too young SB of the freshly scrubbed, emotional maturity, brains, goals, wholesome energy, genuine niceness, sensually gifted category …….. A wonderful reminder of what can be. It’s out there but takes a lot of patience.”

    So very lovely. Glad you’ve found that, flyR :).

  587. gtt_envy says:

    I must be easy to please :) I don’t care about a “highly polished package” and prefer girls who are edgy lots of tattoos and piercings or natural and beautiful without the makeup, nails, hair, etc.

    For me it’s fit in one of the above be funny, easy to talk to, and a bonafide sex freak and we will get along great.

    I have found girls/women that are “too polished” suck in bed almost entitled, not all just some. In the end the sex has to be off the charts to keep me interested and that is hard to find. The pretty package is must easier!!

  588. “audrey says:
    August 24, 2014 at 1:30 am
    It should be mandatory to always be polished and clean.”

    Nails or bush?

  589. flyR says:

    @ Tomi – Most important is to be the authentic you . Of course jeans and t shirt are perfect for afternoon meet at the Getty Villa or most beach cities. Might be a little informal for the more staid downtown meetings but not the edgy locations.

  590. flyR says:

    @ Tomi – Jeans , sandals and T shirt – summer beach, tech casual or similar fine. Perhaps ditch the t shirt for a blouse for a little more refined.

  591. flyR says:

    @ Audrey I’ll trade polished nails for a polished brain and clean nails any day but it is really a matter of what each wants to be/get . No right or wrong other than unkempt which is always tacky .

    If the “package” is sophisticated , Hollywood, take to the board meeting then yes manicure .

  592. audrey says:

    It should be mandatory to always be polished and clean.

  593. sexyrockstar says:

    No one should grow a Bush. Just saying lol. Yougottabe, just do it on your non existent Bush :)’lol

  594. flyR says:

    @RSD – agree 100% with your description of the intelligent, real goals, fresh scrubbed over the painted etc.

    @joshie – Not understanding why you are so anti George Bush and family. My guess is that it relates to your guilt over the current chief golfer in command.

    If had the smallest understanding of the many things the Bush family have done vs O you would be humbled. Most far off the radar. While O took a whole morning (and a couple of million taxpayer $ ) to say a couple words about the beheaded American before rushing back for more golf, Bush decided it was inappropriate for him to play golf while our troops were deployed. His ranch has hosted many closed to the press events for wounded soldiers and their families.

    Few knew of Bush’s frequent off the radar trips to Walter Reid to offer encouragement and thanks to our badly wounded troops.

    While Obama still calls the Fort Hood terrorism workplace violence Bush has helped the families and the wounded. Obama’s management of the Afghanistan war lead to the recent death of the most senior officer to have been lost since the Vietnam war.

    Obama acknowledged the loss of Whitney Houston (drugs suicide) Robin Williams (drugs suicide) mr Brown (drugs , attack on police officer) he could not take time from his busy schedule or even send an emissary to the general’s services at Arlington.

    Returning to the topic at hand I’ve been blessed with a much too young SB of the freshly scrubbed, emotional maturity, brains, goals, wholesome energy, genuine niceness, sensually gifted category …….. A wonderful reminder of what can be. It’s out there but takes a lot of patience.

  595. We’re gonna start a revofuckinglution!

  596. K. Growing out my bush as I type!

    Now…send me your bush pic with my name, yougottabekiddingme, written on a piece of paper next to it. You can email it to yougottabekiddingme2014

    And natural wild bush is fine…no comb over, please. Though a Mohawk might be acceptable.

  597. Josh says:

    THE quickest way to get it going viral is to cal Howard Stern and let him start it.

  598. Josh says:

    The tag line could be, “If Laura can do it so can I.”

  599. Josh says:

    Don’t be a prude. Do it. Do it. DO IT. 😉

  600. Josh says:

    Do you think I would be asking you to do it if it did not have a viral potential? 😉

  601. It would go viral in no timr

  602. This could totally be a thing, by the way.

  603. I am tempted to grow a bush.

    You should donate $100 anyway. BUT! If you send me a picture of your bush, Ill grow a bush and dump ice water on it, if you’ll then donate $100 to ALS.

    Deal?

  604. Josh says:

    OK you dump ice water on your bush. Send me a video and I will donate $100 to ALS. 😉

  605. Josh says:

    The copywriters could have made fun about him being “presidential” to get over it, “you are not a president anymore” or something like that.

    Or could have made up something funny about Bush and Clinton. But no, they had to talk about the silly hair of a good for nothing woman. :(

  606. Ok, recanting here…

    I came across this Time article:

    ““To you all that challenged me, I do not think it’s presidential for me to be splashed with ice water,” he said. “I’m simply going to write you a check,” he added, moments before Laura Bush emptied a bucket of water over his head. The former First Lady added she would send a check to ALS groups as she didn’t want to ruin her hair.”

    And then, I watched the video.

    You are right, sweets. Not cool at all. Most specifically in that she and PR likely knew his reasoning for refusing the challenge.

    Still doesn’t mean that you shouldn’t dump ice water on your bush.

  607. Josh says:

    @yougottabekiddingme

    “What I mean is that you are judging her for not dumping a silly bucket of ice water over her head, when the point is that money was donated anyway.

    Let the woman be.”

    She could have donated her $100 and let George dump a bucket if he wanted to. But he was not dumping the bucket on himself because he was writing a check instead.

    The main point is that Bushes’ PR people found it OK to let the wife dump a bucket of cold water on an unwilling husband and use her “trivial” hair style as the excuse for doing so.

    There is a term used in business called “gap” analysis. It refers to study gaps in a business process. I find it amusing that so many women, even “intelligent” ones, are expert in “gapped” analysis. That is to introduce intentional gaps in their “analysis” of a situation. 😉

  608. “Josh says:
    August 23, 2014 at 9:33 pm
    @Tomi

    “Sweetheart, don’t over think it… Put your best foot forward, chill, and have fun.”

    :)

  609. Josh says:

    @Tomi

    Sweetheart, don’t over think it. Sugar is not much different from regular dating. Put your best foot forward, chill, and have fun.

    Self confidence is the sexiest thing. Just don’t go over the top. We have a very not so flattering word for it. 😉

  610. “Josh says:
    August 23, 2014 at 9:21 pm
    @yougottabekiddingme

    “The ice bucket is trivial.”

    There is no “viral” without the ice bucket AND there’s no challenge without the ice bucket.

    So if you think that the PR/marketing genius ice bucket is trivial, then I would like to agree to disagree and move on.”

    What I mean is that you are judging her for not dumping a silly bucket of ice water over her head, when the point is that money was donated anyway.

    Let the woman be.

  611. Josh says:

    @sexyrockstar

    “I have a problem with your bush…..”

    Whose bush do you have problem with dear?

  612. Josh says:

    @yougottabekiddingme

    “The ice bucket is trivial.”

    There is no “viral” without the ice bucket AND there’s no challenge without the ice bucket.

    So if you think that the PR/marketing genius ice bucket is trivial, then I would like to agree to disagree and move on. 😉

  613. “sexyrockstar says:
    August 23, 2014 at 9:07 pm
    I have a problem with your bush…..”

    Baha! Even if it accepts the ice bucket challenge? Or could it just write a check. Can a bush write a check? If a bush used itself to make a monetary contribution, would it be considered prostitution. What is the fine line between bush, trimmed bush, and shaved bush? Is a trimmed bush still a bush?

  614. Tomi says:

    I read a comment that on the first meet between a SB and a POT, if it’s during the day, to wear no makeup? I’m not one to wear a lot of make up to begin with, so would just a basic look with makeup be ok, along with a nice pair of jeans and t-shirt? Open toe sandals? Just wondering, as I’m new to this.

  615. I don’t have a problem at all. I do, however, disagree with your problem with Laura Bush, dear. The principle is that money is being raised for ALS. The ice bucket is trivial.

  616. sexyrockstar says:

    I have a problem with your bush…..

  617. Josh says:

    Or do you have problem with my problem with Laura Bush?

  618. Josh says:

    Hmmm, do you have problem with my fine line?

  619. “If you have prostitute as an option in your life then you are not looking for an SB, you’re looking for a different kind of prostitute.”

    You ok, lovey? Laura Bush seems to have you on edge…

  620. Josh says:

    That said I should thank you for helping me define my “fine line”.

  621. Josh says:

    @Thomas S.

    “I could just pay (less) for sex on the street’ was a point I was trying to make”

    Here is my “thin line”:

    If you have prostitute as an option in your life then you are not looking for an SB, you’re looking for a different kind of prostitute.

    So try not to enunciate such thin lines, but of course you are a free man. Say/Do what you must. 😉

  622. Josh says:

    Mia culpa. Shhhhhhh!!!

  623. “Josh says:
    August 23, 2014 at 8:25 pm
    @yogottabehumpingme

    As you may have noticed, i am no SunShineSD. I am not looking for perfect genes to replicate my genes with.

    There are “enough” supply of SBs in my neck of the woods. ”

    Shhhhhh!!!

    [whispers]

    not so loud, babe. Are you TRYING to resurrect JacobOfYourSunShineOnACloudyDay’s babyfarm tirade?

  624. Josh says:

    @yougottabekiddingme

    “Maybe she rewarded him in private later.”

    Maybe it’s time for me to say to you to go have some of your thought orgasms.

    Laura is NOTHING. The woman should be washing her husbands feet every single day and drinking it to thank him for eight years in the White House.

  625. “Thanks for the correction. Hit the Submit Comment button too soon. Didn’t get around to posting the correction because I got busy with responding to yougottabedrenchingyourself’s message.”

    I suppose you can call it drenching myself.

    [shrugs]

  626. Thomas S. says:

    Josh – It is my “thin” line, maybe I’m naive. I have a quirk for wedding dresses and naughty brides if it makes you feel any better, so maybe I’m twisted up a little different than most SDs. I want more than just sex, this about me and how I feel, and I want to maximize the arrangement. ‘I could just pay (less) for sex on the street’ was a point I was trying to make, so I want more out of the arrangement. We’re all different people.

  627. Josh says:

    GWB may be an allegorical motherfucker but not a literal one. 😉

  628. I disagree with you on this one, sweets. You can donate without accepting the ice bucket. It seems that what upsets you is that Barbara threw George under the ice bus to save her wig. It could be that he didn’t mind taking one for the team for the sport of the cause, an that he wrote a check for both of them anyway. Maybe she rewarded him in private later.

  629. Josh says:

    @yogottabehumpingme

    As you may have noticed, i am no SunShineSD. I am not looking for perfect genes to replicate my genes with.

    There are “enough” supply of SBs in my neck of the woods. 😉

  630. Josh says:

    @ss1959

    Thanks for the correction. Hit the Submit Comment button too soon. Didn’t get around to posting the correction because I got busy with responding to yougottabedrenchingyourself’s message.

    Thanks again. 😉

  631. SBs who pique his interest are mostly those who fall from the heavens, and into his lap. It’s the only time he’ll excuse the fact that they’re not local.

  632. Josh says:

    I don’t care what it has become. We have a serious illness and we have $50 million collected already. May God bless all those who are getting drenched and then challenging others to take the bucket or get drenched.

    And may God bless those who are writing the checks.

    If Bush was writing one $100 check, he could have very well written two $100 checks to cover both husband and wife.

    But why o why Bushes’ PR people found it OK to say to the American people that George was going to take the bucket but this idiot’s hair were too important to take the same cold water on it.

  633. ss1959 says:

    @Josh: I’m pretty sure you meant anyone who piques your interest.

  634. @Josh

    Some just opt to donate without getting drenched with Ive water. I, too, would just write the check. Besides, the whole ice bucket challenge has become just as much a media spectacle that seems more about collecting YouTube views than as is ALS.

  635. Josh says:

    Anyone who peeks my interest. 😉

  636. sexyrockstar says:

    Josh…I must ask. What kind of sbs do you go after?

  637. Josh says:

    Talking about style, Laura Bush can go fuck herself for drenching her husband in cold water because she didn’t “want to ruin my hair style.”

    First of all, her “hair style” sucked, and why o why is it so acceptable in the American media for the wives to throw their husbands to wolves?

    The Bushes need to fire their PR agency. We are talking about a serious illness and this idiot is talking about her idiotic “hair style”????

  638. sexyrockstar says:

    With me…I’m a guitar player. Fake nails are a no go. I play every single day. Hours on end. My nails are pretty long as is. But I get my nails done every two weeks. I also have a shit ton of heels, so a pedicure is a must. I like having nice feet.

    Because I do pride on being a musician, that’s what guys are attracted to anyway about me, I would feel silly going to a date and not look like someone who has tattoos and such. Depending on where the date is at too…I’m not about to walk in some fancy restaurant with big hair and wear a dress with slits in it that would show off my cleavage. I do wear dresses at a nice restaurant…but I’ll show off my legs in something form fitting.

    My former sd liked to tell me what to wear, so it was pretty easy on my selection.

  639. Josh says:

    Just sent a message to a 52 year-old sugar “baby.” Let’s see how it goes. 😉

  640. RSD says:

    I suppose I’d give her a prepaid credit card and add $2500/month to it and she can deal from there

  641. RSD says:

    Wow is all I can say

    I’m totally done with leases, cars, credit cards

  642. Josh says:

    I am concerned that this SB is kinda bashful. 😉

    What I’m looking for

    I’m looking for a SD arrangement that would include up to 4 visits/dates a month. More/less dates is also an option. I want 2500/month for living expenses. I would also like a car and a credit card.

  643. nicegirl says:

    Also, I was not talking about “attraction” because attraction is more complex what either of us wrote in this blog. True attraction can’t be put into words many time.

  644. nicegirl says:

    @RSD – I agree with you, an empty shell is not impressive. I am talking about he entire package though. I believe the reference was a girl getting her nails done for a gay SD… I think the mani/pedi may not specifically be noticed but I do think the entire package is appreciated if done right – this includes intelligence and personality. You may not care about looks but many do.

  645. RSD says:

    nicegirl, attraction is more complex than that. Take the following two hypothetical SBs:

    SB 1: Moderately attractive but well-spoken, can write in proper English, has a goal in life which is attainable (not just empty childish dreams). She shows up with no nail polish, no makeup, in a t-shirt and jeans, hair is still wet from the shower.

    SB 2. Impeccable hair, nails, and makeup, designer shoes, purse, and clothing, and even a point hotter than SB 1, but with no ambition, no brain, and unable to talk about anything other than drugs/alcohol, music, and sex.

    SB1 wins every time in my book

  646. nicegirl says:

    I am not sure it is about “noticing the mani / pedi” You notice the whole package – is she well put together? This includes: good skin, hair, nails, body, clothes, personality, overall demeanor. This is what a good SB is looking to project not “Gosh I hope he noticed I had my nails painted today” That is what my gay friends are for ;o)

  647. RSD says:

    If only gay men would dole out big bucks to admire a woman’s mani/pedi. Why does the universe have to be so unfair to SBs?

  648. Josh says:

    @RSD

    Interesting observation. Maybe women should seek arrangements from gay men so that they may appreciate their manicure, pedicure, outfits and accessories and NOT pressure them for sex?

  649. RSD says:

    Straight man: “I do remember what she looked like when I peeled that dress off of her though…”

    Gay man: “I remember what color her nails were last, and the purple dress she wore last week.”

  650. Josh says:

    “I do remember what she looked like when I peeled that dress off of her though…”

    There you go. 😉

  651. ss1959 says:

    I notice my SB’s mani and pedi, but only because it’s very important to her and she’s always showing them to me. I like that she’s always so well put-together, but I can never remember what color her nails were last, or “the purple dress I wore last week.”

    I do remember what she looked like when I peeled that dress off of her though…

  652. Kms2014 says:

    RSD, I wouldn’t say women complain about a man’s feet or hands, as it is not something everyone is into, but if they look crusty, dirty or unkempt, then I probably would not date him again….one of the first things I notice on a man, are his hands and nails…if they look like they have not been clipped in awhile, then it is a turn-off. I used to give my ex fiancée feet and hand pedicures/foot massages often…well, because he had very nice feet for a man….on the other hand, little feet, little….

  653. RSD says:

    I have a dinner planned for Tuesday night. I guess I got 72 hours to clip my fingernails, but I seriously doubt my toenails will be a focus of anyone’s attention. But then again, I have no athlete’s foot or toenail fungus, lol. Surprised I’ve never seen anyone complain about an SD’s bad feet so far, since old men can have such horrendous looking feet and toenails.

  654. Kms2014 says:

    No nicegirl….it is not just you 😉 It is not common, but certain men have a foot fetish….and get very upset, if your hands and feet are not kept manicured.

  655. nicegirl says:

    I see that FlyR noticed his SB’s pedi… looks like this blog topic, if not educating, is at the very least pointing out efforts made by SB’s. I think nice feet are sexy… Is that just me? Not sure.

  656. nicegirl says:

    “Also, SBs who dress like that tend to scream “paid company”; I’m not sure that’s what I’m going for if seen with an SB in public.”

    I was thinking the same thing…. This seems more appropriate for a private meeting with some sexy role play.

  657. nicegirl says:

    When reading all of the varied comments under each blog topic, it seems clear that having a separate discussion forum is needed. This will keep the actual blog topics on point and give others that want to discuss and or comment an outlet to do so. I don’t really see how money would be involved in setting up or monitoring such a forum though. I may save on energies spent from the SA team as they would need to offer less rotation on topics.

  658. RSD says:

    @gentle(man)soul, “I want my 20 something year old to wear age appropriate clothing , preferably a tight top showing her breast size and shape -with or without cleavage -and braless, a very short skirt showing miles of leg and a hint of underwear(or nothing) when crossing her legs ”

    Yes this is very sexy for afternoon coffee or when she comes over for a meet in a private place, but does not work for an upscale dinner. Also, SBs who dress like that tend to scream “paid company”; I’m not sure that’s what I’m going for if seen with an SB in public.

  659. gtt_envy says:

    Should be a typical forum platform vbb would be fine.

    You could many different subforums. Search functions etc etc like every other forum out there.

  660. Josh says:

    You’d think. However, if you haven’t noticed, SA is very lenient in their moderation. If an “interested” person sets up the discussion forum, he/she WILL NOT be as lenient.

    I’d rather deal with a financially modivated person than an ideologically motived one.

  661. ss1959 says:

    @Josh: Why financial motivation? All a discussion group needs is a group of interested people to keep the discussions flowing.

  662. Josh says:

    It’s definitely “trivially easy” to set up something like that but not that easy to keep it going unless there’s some financial motivation behind it.

  663. ss1959 says:

    Some folks here seem to be confusing a blog with a discussion forum. In a traditional blog — which this purports to be — the comment section is usually fairly directly related to the blog topic. But we tend to use the comments here as a discussion forum for everything related to sugar. I see the need a desire, but it doesn’t seem fair to keep criticizing the SA blog for being, well, a blog.

    It is trivially easy to set up a discussion board on Google or Yahoo, and then discussions could carry on without regard to when SA publishes a new blog topic.

  664. Josh says:

    One of the benefits of the blog to FlyR is that SA allows him to post his dumb as well as dumber comments.

  665. flyR says:

    I guess there is some benefit to the blog…….. SB wonderful Friday afternoon visit. I finally noticed the pedicure as she was leaving.

    I would be happy if the blog simply turned the page every 10 days or even every week……… Too frequently and we leave some folks behind. Perhaps it becomes the role of the first poster to add a topic.

  666. Josh says:

    @Thomas S.

    “If it is just physical and financial, then it’s prostitution, not sugar.”

    Is that your “thin line” now? :)

  667. Elaine says:

    @ Thomas

    Thank you for your post!

    Good to hear the different sound of an SD who is appreciating the added values some SBs are offering.
    And are willing to pay an adequate allowance for this, not based upon
    location, age or body alone!

  668. Alexis says:

    I’m can’t believe I finished this article. Usually I wander away after the third of fourth sentence of any of these types of articles. Thank you for keeping it simplistic and brief, Ethan.

    The only item that hit me a bit crooked was the darker colors transitioning through the warmer months. I was taught that is a no-no.

    As for the nails portion, I liked the KISS ideology since I never do my nails. I hate polishing my nails. It makes me feel like they’re suffocating and causes me to feel like I want to pull them off lol. Well, they literally are suffocating when you put polish over them. Nails require light, air, and water. Polish blocks all three of these. No thanks I would prefer to keep my body parts healthy.

    Would I do my nails for a SD? Uh er um … yeah :( lol if it really pleased him.

  669. Thomas S. says:

    These blogs should be used to help educate our young SBs on marketing AND on how to service their account. The SDs know what they want and what they will pay for. Sugar dating is also about fulfilling emotional needs. If it is just physical and financial, then it’s prostitution, not sugar. The better a woman looks, acts, and emotionally feels, the more we are going to pay on an allowance, gifts, trips, etc. Allowances are based on sexual fulfillment, attractiveness, class, reliability, passion, effort, and integrity. If you want to effectively market yourself as a sugar baby, the only thing an SD can verify on your profile is attractiveness, and maybe class (or lack there of) Sexual fulfillment is assumed (we may have some quirks) passion and effort is a bonus, but both reliability and integrity will only be found out after we start paying an SB her allowance. Real SDs are willing to pay more for a personalized, custom service, with an attractive SB. Things go south with your SD when he meets the price and you don’t come through on the terms.

  670. Jelissa Edwards says:

    I’m very simple and I hardly ever get my nails done. A simple manicure always does the trick.

  671. Josh says:

    Dear Mr. Wade

    “Hiring” a bunch of blog writers is money wasted. Redeploy them in monitoring whacky profiles.

    You provide a robust repository of content and let the crazy bloggers generate the content. LOL!

    Yours Truly

  672. gentle(man)soul says:

    First steps in picking what to wear:

    I am here for a young sex partner -not a life partner . Following up on Josh’s list ,I look at overall shape ,hair ,face ,Breasts ,legs ,style(clothing), decorations(jewelry,tats,piercings) , then overall package.

    I want my 20 something year old to wear age appropriate clothing , preferably a tight top showing her breast size and shape -with or without cleavage -and braless, a very short skirt showing miles of leg and a hint of underwear(or nothing) when crossing her legs (ala Sharon Stone),sandals showing her feet ,a tight belt showing her tiny waist ,and well done nails -not necessarily professionally done, simple and clean.

  673. Josh says:

    @NC Gent

    “It shouldn’t be hard to understand that it is difficult to keep coming up with fresh material.”

    Well, maybe it is time to recycle older blogs articles. SD Guru wrote a series of great articles and also blog comments. The older blog articles genuinely talked about sugar-specific issues and pertinent suggestions.

    There’s a tendency in the recent articles to stick “sugar” in front of generic material. The worse case was when “sugar” was inserted in frot of Gary Chapman’ five love languages without giving poor Dr. Chapman any credit at all. 😉

  674. NC Gent says:

    I agree Josh — they could just make a “general discussion” blog and do a new “general discussion” blog every time it reached, let’s say, about 200-300 postings or so. The blog topic discussions could stay on point then. It would also decrease how often they would need to come up with a new topic. They wouldn’t have to do a major format change then either.

  675. Josh says:

    @NC Gent

    Good observations.

    Me thinks, the blog needs to have a different format. That is to seggregate the threads so that it provides a better repository of focused information for new SBs and SDs.

    As far as blog topics, I have already suggested to scan the discussion space and pick out the topics to write about. Kirsten has acknowledged.

  676. nicegirl says:

    @NC Gent

    “SA has been hosting the blog for 6 years strong now. It shouldn’t be hard to understand that it is difficult to keep coming up with fresh material. The blog also isn’t the focus of their efforts.” Agreed 😉

  677. nicegirl says:

    lol – ok then….

  678. NC Gent says:

    Good to see you back, Sweetie :)

    I think there should new blog rule. If you complain about the blog topic and-or the writing style (including grammar), you are required to recommend the next blog topic and write the introduction.

    SA has been hosting the blog for 6 years strong now. It shouldn’t be hard to understand that it is difficult to keep coming up with fresh material. The blog also isn’t the focus of their efforts.

    • Kirsten says:

      @NCGent – you are completely right. As marketing people, we go through a bevy of tasks on a daily basis. Blog writing or moderation is only one aspect of what a SA employee does. We welcome any ideas for blog topics. Thank you for understanding that sometimes topic choice can be tough, and we do write for other blogs (not only SA).

  679. Josh says:

    This is what many men (I would not say all men or even most men) would initially focus on.

    Eyes, lips, healthy-looking skin, boobs, butt, legs; the order of preference will vary from men to men.

    Since this blog post is talking about thing to wear or do to body I will just leave it it that.

    How a woman uses whatever she has is an entirely different series of books. 😉

  680. nicegirl says:

    The average SB 20 something woman should not be the target market. IMHO – *For Spanx…

  681. nicegirl says:

    SD looking for an SB – do you want her to need spanx to “hold it all in”? or do you want her sexy dress fall to the floor and you finally get to see what you knew you were missing all evening up until till now?

    I know the size of market for beauty in general which includes shape wear. The average SB 20 something woman should not be the target market. IMHO

  682. Josh says:

    A woman selling $350,000,000 worth of shapeware products can’t be wrong. And the man who supported her has his female-related reasons.

    “Sara eventually found a hosiery factory in North Carolina that would make her product. When she asked the mill owner why he was taking a chance on her, he respnded “I have two daughters.”

  683. flyR says:

    continuing from the above

    is your potential sd

    Married college sweatheart and now looking for a walk on the wild side with the bad girl he never dated

    Never dated in college and now looking for what he missed

    Looking for a friend / lover

    Ego challenged and looking for arm candy

    Senior citizen playing Clippers Owner

  684. flyR says:

    I still think we’re missing the point here. Be authentic and consistent.

    You are “marketing” something –

    I’m the marketing head of Monolithic Sugar Company largest sugar producer in the universe.

    I have

    an elite brand that sells in very upscale markets – the packaging exudes quality and exclusivity.

    the Whole Foods brand that emphasizes pure and socially responsible brown cardboard packaging

    the Vons package – a clear plastic bag

    My spreckles brand in the distinctive white box

    My value pack for Costco

    My Walmart package

    It’s essentially the same product packaged for the market to maximize my profits. Unless you understand what you are doing for the customer you don’t know what the packaging should be.

    If this is confusing shop for salt at a large market

    The packaging needs to match the marketing strategy and the venue

  685. I’ve never worn artificial nails, and what from what I’ve heard, it can take months and months for your natural nail to recondition after all of the drilling. I go for a natural nail, never much longer than my fingertips, with a buffed shine. Holds up for 2-3 weeks. My nails grow really fast, so I usually trim them in between visits. Can’t do long nails. Not only do they collect more dirt, but they also make mini-marathons a bit uncomfortable. No bueno.

  686. nicegirl says:

    Men do and don’t care about manicures and pedicures (some find it a turn on) However, if a woman isn’t taking good care of something as openly seen as her nails I wonder what other lady parts she is neglecting… Those parts ALL men care about looking nice and “taken care of”.

    I agree with Thomas, An SB taking care of her appearance is her responsibility and it is crazy to expect that to be taken care of for you.

  687. nicegirl says:

    What a disappointment when the hand goes up the skirt, the feel tight thick spandex…. That could be a major cock block moment for sure! But she looked damn tight at first glance.

  688. Josh says:

    Here is Sara Blakely, the first self-made (not from inheritance or financially raping her ex) billionaire:

    “‘Since I was a little girl I have always known I would help women,’ she wrote in her pledge letter.

    ‘In my wildest dreams I never thought I would have started with their butts. As it turns out, that was a great place to start!

    ‘At Spanx we say it’s our goal to make the world a better place, one butt at a time'”

    That gorgeous brainy billionaire knows what she is talking about. 😉

  689. Thomas S says:

    Manicured nails are something that makes a woman feel good about herself, so I’m for that, at best they are an enhancement for SD’s. Josh is right though, we won’t be looking at your nails unless they are dirty or hideous. The SB I’m seeing currently seeing scratched the hell out of my back, so it would be nice if they were at least filed down smooth, manicured would be better in that department, and makes a woman look more classy. If I was married that would be a big problem.

    I know that the SB’s want their SD’s to pay for everything but your allowance should cover some of the basic maint issues associated with being a woman. If you come to dinner looking like a ratchet, expecting a huge allowance, something’s seriously wrong with you. The idea of the SD / SB relationship is the SD’s want the best and are willing to pay for it. If we just wanted to romp we could hit up Backpage and save ourselves quite a bit of time and money.

    I think our SB’s need to take a class somewhere about value. If an SD is paying a generous allowance, but gets an SB that shops at Kohl’s, we don’t see the value. Add to that most SB’s are somewhat shady in regards to spending any more than the minimal amount of time to keep the sugar flowing, and we have a situation where this is no longer a two way street.

    Everything is negotiable, but our SB’s need to keep up their end of the deal and stop being so damn greedy. We can find a lot of women that will sleep with us a couple times a month for $5K, eventually we just get tired of dealing with your whining and bounce to the next prospect. Everyday there are new women coming online in need of sugar that are willing to put in a maximum effort just to get out of their financial jam.

    From an SD point of view, The SB role is still basically a job. How you make us feel is the measurement of employer satisfaction. As your “daddy” we expect you to show up to work on time, when scheduled, with proper attire for what ever we have planned, and with a positive attitude. I think what this site needs is a Job Description and Evaluation guide, so everyone’s on the same basic page. A real SD doesn’t “break up” with you, he terminates your employment due to poor job performance.

  690. “AND God forbid if one or more of your nails are broken, don’t expect them to understand the emotional nature of the loss. ”

    Have you no heart, dear?

  691. Josh says:

    “I won’t even look at your nails.”

    Bingo. As long as they don’t see a black line running along the tips of your nails, most men would not notice what you have on it. It’s yet another female thing to show other females AND there’s NOTHING wrong if women do it.

    Also, there’s NOTHING wrong in expecting them to sponsor your nail related indulgence. Just don’t expect men to care too much about you nails.

    AND God forbid if one or more of your nails are broken, don’t expect them to understand the emotional nature of the loss. 😉

  692. Jessie says:

    Hi is there a blog or section for SB to go to read about Warnings or Shady SD in a region or area?

  693. sweetie says:

    So many opinionated men on this blog… RSD, you take the cake, sir!

    Isn’t is nice to be able to worry about our nails? Hmmm, wondering what color I should make mine tomorrow… Hello, all!

  694. RSD says:

    RSD’s guide to SB attire:

    (1) If nice dinner, check restaurant dress code. Do not dress like Pretty Woman; I don’t want you to look like I picked you off the street corner in the red light district.

    (2) If afternoon coffee, wear a tight t-shirt and jeans, or anything that outlines your flat abs and curvy but petite breasts and thigh gap.

    (3) Definitely no perfume. No or minimal makeup. I won’t even look at your nails.

  695. flyR says:

    First steps in picking what to wear

    1 – How do you represent yourself in the profile
    2- What attracted him to your profile (you should have asked)
    3- What’s appropriate for the place and the message you want to send

  696. “SouthernSB says:
    August 21, 2014 at 4:41 pm
    @ JOSH
    Have you ever done any Latin dancing? The merengue alone can cause you to have heart palpitations and drop 20 lbs. in the course of one night. Spoken from experience.”

    So true, Southern.

    Makes me think of people who die shoveling snow. It can be intense, if you’re not conditioned.

    Swing is so super fun. There is a bar in my city that has weekly swing dance night. People ages 18 and into their 70’s of all skill levels, all dancing and having a great time. Be prepared to share your sugarsweets with other dancers, though. It’s all in the spirit of swing. People generally change dancers every song or two.

  697. flyR says:

    Would not be as significant if he article was not about doing things right.

  698. Jayne of all Trades says:

    lol Grace, Ikr

  699. Jayne of all Trades says:

    lol, It’s Cool and if they don’t like it then they are most likely lame

  700. Jayne of all Trades says:

    Here’s how I see it. If you want me to be dressed to My Best in your interests, if you don’t like something then change it. I have it laid out to make things more simple. He tells me what to wear, how to wear it, how he likes my hair and nails ect. ect.

    It depends on Him & Him and the environment or Event. Face it, it takes time to know someone and when first dating it’s hard to say. A lot of men here are already into fashion so really I trust their judgments and I’m sure a lot of them have no problem telling you their choice or preferences.

    As a Woman, or Man 😉
    You make the out-fit, the out-fit doesn’t make you.
    Whatever you wear, how ever you dress, be confident.
    A Smile is the Most beautiful thing a Woman can Wear @}~~

  701. 42SWM says:

    @SouthernSB, @nicegirl:

    Thanks for the collective feedback. I think I will go with swing. Dancing is something I do surprising well (I have performed in numerous community theater musicals over the years). Always looking to leverage relative strengths. Ultimately I think nicegirl is right, it will depend on the SB.

  702. Ethan says:

    @Julie: If you have a topic you’d like to see discussed on the blog, please comment with suggestions! As I said, the blogs are typically lighthearted and fun. You’re correct, many blogs do address aesthetic and lifestyle, which is a portion of the sugar lifestyle.

    @Grace: Apologies for the error on palette, as you can imagine – it’s fairly easily to overlook such simple errors when writing such pieces. With that said, weaved and woven are both acceptable terms for describing this variation of leather, but I have gone ahead and adjusted the phrasing per your suggestion.

  703. SouthernSB says:

    @ JOSH
    Have you ever done any Latin dancing? The merengue alone can cause you to have heart palpitations and drop 20 lbs. in the course of one night. Spoken from experience. 😉

  704. nicegirl says:

    SB – CND is the maker of Shellac. Cut and paste the link I gave in my last post. It will take you to their site – They can tell you where there is a salon in your area from there.

  705. SouthernSB says:

    @Josh I know you’re going to want to kill me but what the heck is CND?

  706. Josh says:

    SouthernSB

    “Just make sure your heart is up for it.”

    Now don’t you be making no ageist comments.

  707. nicegirl says:

    @42SWM

    That is a tricky question and I see the answer being 50/50. It would depend on the girl not necessarily the age. Also, you as her dance partner would make this experience one that she would love if you are a good dancer.

  708. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB,

    Try CND at Target an d YouTubebe for how to put it on. 😉

  709. SouthernSB says:

    @42SWM
    Depends on the kind of dancing. If you stick to the classics, ie: waltz, foxtrot, tango, and quickstep, than no because a young SB would find it slow and boring. Now, if you went to Latin classes, ie: salsa, merange, rumba and pasa double’ then yeah, I say go for it!! A young SB will love it. Latin is fun and really sexy. Just make sure your heart is up for it.

  710. SouthernSB says:

    @NiceGirl
    What’s shellac polish? Could you recommend a brand, because I’ve never heard of it before.

  711. 42SWM says:

    Random question: Would most SB’s think an offer to go ballroom dancing is classy/sexy or old/lame? Does the age of the SB matter in answering this question?

  712. Julie says:

    And Ethan, coming from Germany I can tell you that manicures are not very common for women either. Some women get fake nails, but a regular manicure like the ones we get done here in the US is very uncommon. A mans hands are very important to me, but I think taking care of yourself, knowing which site a fork should be next to your plate, to drink in moderation and not to hook up with every sugar daddy you meet is common sense and part of general education. Unfortunately it is not reality for most girls (otherwise you guys wouldn’t spend time writing blogs about it) and/or promotes shallowness (being stylish and pretty is all that matters)

  713. Julie says:

    Ethan-
    I did not need any clarification, the blogs topics are very clear to me. I can read, think and put two and two together but thank you anyways :-)

  714. spoonfuldeazucar says:

    @NiceGirl – thanks for the tip! :) All this talk about mani/pedis makes me want to go to the salon now! Going to have to go this weekend!

    Ethan’s comment reminds me…wish more men would get pedicures. haha It’s totally okay with me if a man wants to partake in this “lady” activity. 😛

  715. Grace says:

    I wonder if I can get a job proofreading these blogs – I could charge by the correction, lol! But seriously, though – they ARE kind of hard to see as professional when there are glaring errors like “color pallets” (palettes) and “weaved leather” (WOVEN leather) going on…

  716. Ethan says:

    @Julie: The blogs are intended to be fun and informational. I have no doubt that the vast majority of Sugar Babies have manicured hands, but a gentle reminder to manicure prior to a date + the correct palette of polish, cannot hurt. Can it? There is also mention of Sugar Daddies manicuring their hands, which is not too common in the United States.

    I hope this provides a bit more clarification on the topic!

  717. Josh says:

    @Julie, 😉

  718. nicegirl says:

    “my nails are just now recovering from a gel mani I got several weeks ago since they used the automatic file drill (I don’t know the proper name! Haha) that left me with grooves in my nails. ”

    They should never use a nail drill on your nails for a manicure. The salon I go to only buffs my nails ( I have heard of some salons using the drill and you need to tell them NO to the drill and any filing on the top of your nail) If they only buff then you will have great nails with no damage.

  719. Spoonfuldeazucar says:

    Oops! Soon* :)

  720. Spoonfuldeazucar says:

    @Julie ~ You are not alone! Haha

    @NiceGirl ~ I hate acrylics! They make my nails and fingers hurt so bad. And my nails are just now recovering from a gel mani I got several weeks ago since they used the automatic file drill (I don’t know the proper name! Haha) that left me with grooves in my nails. I do, however, get pedis regularly (heaven!). Maybe I’ll be able to find a new nail salon soom that does it differently.

  721. nicegirl says:

    @ spoonfuldeazucar

    Standard polish chips so easily but I don’t want to wear acrylics. I started having manicures using Shellac polish and it stays with no chips for weeks. I have a mani every 2 weeks because I enjoy it but could go longer if I wanted to without chips. Pretty amazing and I always have nice nails.

  722. Julie says:

    I’ve been a member on this site for a couple of years now, on and off, I read these blogs and I seriously wonder what kind of girls are on this site… Advice on glasses and drinks? You need to inform them to have manicured hands? What to wear to a date at a restaurant or how not to “sugar?”
    Most topics are common sense and I seriously cringe reading these articles sometimes…

  723. spoonfuldeazucar says:

    “…little islands of polish on bare nails is not a good look!” – agreed. I have to admit though, I get tired of doing my nails over and over again, so now I mostly just keep them manicured without the polish. If my man wants my nails done (acrylic/gel/powder), then he is more than welcome to pay for them to be done. 😉

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