3 years ago
Wink Be Gone

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Last week, the new website was officially born, and with that came some changes. One change was the removal of the ominous wink — it is now simply an afterthought. It took precedent on SeekingArrangement for too long, so we made an executive decision to remove it once and for all. C’mon, the wink, it’s a tease. Teases are tempting, but only when they’re utilized correctly.

sugar daddy winksWinks from a Sugar Daddy

In real life, winks can get you what you want without speaking. You’re across the room, and if she’s interested and doesn’t think debris is pestering your eye, she’s likely to show interest in return. But, as we know, the online dating world does not work quite the same way.

As a Sugar Daddy, you should be confident enough to go all in — you have the power here. While a wink might get her to view your profile, a message will get her to like you. Online dating is all about making a lasting impression.

Wink Alternative: Get creative. Read her profile, and use something witty to get her going.

Winks from a Sugar Baby

If you’re winking, you aren’t putting in enough effort. If he’s a premium or diamond member, he’s receiving more messages than he can handle. You won’t stand out with a wink because well, he’s busy reading messages from women who actually put thought into it.

Wink Alternative: Be upfront and straightforward. Let him know you’re serious, and how an arrangement with you will be optimal.

Wink Be Gone

sugar baby winks

Yes, winks are history, as a result, member communication will be:

  • more transparent

  • more flirtatious

  • more successful

Where do we go from here?

Check your email, and check it often. It’ll no longer be filled to the rim with random winks from members, instead you’ll know who is viewing your profile, and who is taking initiative. The average member finds an arrangement in 5 days, so we can’t have users wasting your time.

Be upfront, be honest, and make lasting impression instead of a lazy one.

Will you miss the wink? Was it a useful way for you to show interest, or are you downright relieved it’s abolished?

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304 Responses to “Wink Be Gone”

  1. Kimmi says:

    Hmm I read some of the early parts of this conversation and it was pretty funny. I’m from NC and I do get a good amount of emails on the SA site (to give you an idea, I had a few daddies on my time here and i’ve activated and deactivated a few times but between May and now i’ve had 635 emails). I fortunately have an awesome really well paying job and do this for fun, so I can be really picky about who I want and what I want to be paid. You can check out my profile on here if you want, I don’t care. The thing that pisses me off is when guys message you, then email you for a few weeks, then waste your time and when its time to meet they get cold feet because they’re married and all the sudden they are afraid to cheat on their wives again or they have lied to you this entire time about how old they are and they realize you aren’t going to find them attractive all of the sudden.
    As for the wink, I liked it because I would send them if I was interested in someone but wasn’t sure if that person would be interested in me. If they messaged me back, great, but if not, then I moved on. Good luck to all of you lovely ladies and Gentlemen….Hope you all find exactly what you’re looking for 😉

  2. Jimm says:

    I agree, winks aren’t really good.

  3. Josh says:

    @JG

    “Last month I helped out a young woman get into a apt, and $$$ to fix her car. Why? she needed it; whatever happens later happens. Meanwhile my current SB is getting 1k-2k /mo from me while also working a $10-12/hr job. I know our financial situations are world’s apart.”

    That’s my preferred sugar model. I keep on helping one of now pretty much ex SB whenever she hits me up with something. We had great time in the past and I like her as a person.

    My approach to sugar is as if I am dealing with a “friend in need.” So I am supposedly her “friend indeed.” 😉

  4. JG says:

    “Should I tell SDs that show an interest in me that I am down to having exactly .35 cents in my bank acct. and I am down to eating tomato soup for lunch for the rest of the month despite the fact that I am intelligent, well-spoken and well-read.”

    Yes, why not, so long as they show an interest, they might be like me and be willing to do something extra to help someone out in need. Last month I helped out a young woman get into a apt, and $$$ to fix her car. Why? she needed it; whatever happens later happens. Meanwhile my current SB is getting 1k-2k /mo from me while also working a $10-12/hr job. I know our financial situations are world’s apart.

    The warning would be that anyone in a relationship, whether SB or otherwise, is there for their reasons, not yours. In other words, “I want your money but not to date you” is a recipe for conflict. Honesty about expectations is important so you aren’t jerking someone around or exploiting their White Knight behavior, or vice versa, getting taken advantage of.

  5. Eloquence says:

    @ Josh

    I didn’t know you had a rat as a pet. So, did you give your rat’s left ass cheek and keep the rest for yourself?

    Merely, I find it is hard to prevent awkwardness by your meal of conversation at times. Sometimes I chew on the fat as to not let it digest and other times I have no choice but to spit it out due to lack of flavor. :)

  6. Lue says:

    But .. I like to hear directly from someone. Make it personal

  7. Josh says:

    @Eloquence

    “What if she placed him on a back-up plan? What if…what if…what if???”

    In the next post please don’t forget to ask me if I gave rat’s left ass cheek? 😉

  8. Eloquence says:

    @ Josh

    Ok Mr. Devil’s advocate… What if she placed him on a back-up plan? What if…what if…what if???

    BTW Josh – you are not shabby either on your verbiage of words and how they come forth from your mouth.. :) (I would use that as a sexual Segway to great conversation) Yet…Alas, I will be a good girl.

    @ Genuine SD – instead of “what if’ing YOUR LIFE… I agree when Elaine said…

    @ GenuineSD

    Talk to her, …ASK WHY and what and let her answer.
    Don’t jump into conclusions.
    She sounds like she is worth it.
    And unless what some are thinking here, it is hard to find the right SB where you can have such connection with!

    Invest this 20 min.in a personal meeting before you decide to move on or not.

  9. “@ygtbkm

    “You’re heavily into word gymnastics. You remind me of another word gymnast blogger.

    By the way, jumping, pulling, pushing words neither constitutes wisdom nor knowledge.”

    Dearest Josh,

    I love it when you talk dirty to me. Though I prefer FlyR’s note that “most of the world’s wisdom comes from an earlier time while most of its knowledge is more recent. It’s the issue of confusing knowledge with wisdom that leaves you puzzled.”

    You, my only love, seem a little confused about both. Your logic is both flawed and baseless, and your comments like shapeless excrement…watery.

    Word gymnastics? I’m not even sure I can touch my toes. Hope that’s not a deal breaker :/.

    I’m not sure what you’re trying to do here, Josh, but whatever it is, you won’t win. And you won’t win because Im not here to compete. You’d be better off challenging yourself…one of yous is sure to win. I apologize that my approach to expressing myself isn’t as robotic as yours [does the robot, passes it back]. I happen to live life in technicolor, and my words are merely a candid conveyance of my thoughts. Perhaps you should try embracing your inner roygbiv.

    Anyway, sweets…I appreciate the pillow talk, but it’s late, and I have shit to do tomorrow. Kisses ’til then.

    Your future ex love (if only I could’ve touched my toes),

    yougottabekiddingme

  10. Josh says:

    @ygtbkm

    You’re heavily into word gymnastics. You remind me of another word gymnast blogger.

    By the way, jumping, pulling, pushing words neither constitutes wisdom nor knowledge. 😉

  11. Josh says:

    GenuineSD

    “Communication” is a famale need. They can “communicate” until they are blue in their faces without resolving anything.

    As FB indicated above, she is pretty much history. Maybe she wants a “real” relationship to fuck with his mind and use him as her personal slave. You may not be providing her that missing excitement.

    ‘Tis time to hit the next button and to put her on the back-up plan. 😉

  12. Josh says:
    July 13, 2014 at 10:03 pm
    @Josh

    “@ygtbkm

    I like to keep things simple. I have no idea what you wrote above. Sorry that you had to do all the cut n paste.”

    I don’t expect you to recognize your own direct, time stamped quote, Joshiesweets. Pretty typical of a hypocrite. No offense taken though…I know that the shit you throw is only a token of love, and I only feed it back to you because I heard that the way to a man’s heart is through his stomach. So whatdya say, love? Should we skip the wedding and honeymoon, and go straight for the divorce party? I do like a good party. Confetti and balloons? Champagne toast to boot?

    xoxo

  13. FatB'StardSD says:

    @GenuineSD

    She wants a break from you. What exactly do you expect to get from confronting her about anything? Find someone else, if she decides to come back you can decide if you want to take her back.

  14. NC Gent says:

    Hi GenuineSD — good to see you again, but I wish it was under better circumstances. I agree and honest and non-confrontational discussion should be forthcoming. You may be able to patch up any misunderstandings, but it is my experience that when things like this happen, it is the beginning of the end. I suspect you know that also, but perhaps don’t want to accept it. I am, of course, speaking from my own personal experiences — sometimes it takes quite a bit to let go, especially when one is emotionally invested. I hope everything works out for the best!

  15. SunShineSD says:

    @GenuineSD,
    Just re-read your post. It’s a delicate situation. In her mind, she probably thinks she was being technically honest with you: her “me time.” She probably doesn’t think she was either cheating on you or lying to you. She just doesn’t realize the inherent risk that she was taking (although going out with a group of her friends together mitigates the risk). Whatever you do, refrain from coming across as controlling; give her plenty personal space to discover herself, yet matter-of-factly give her a line that she should not cross. A skirmish line that attracts and breaks up probing attacks (giving her some “victories”; Cosmopolitan type rags brainwash young women into believing the value of those small “victories” so she can be “equal” to you. If she ever does cross the skirmish line, forgive her after give her a spanking or something. LOL). Meanwhile formulate a main line of defense in your own mind around your core interest and core value, that nobody shall ever cross regardless how hot and tempting and regardless how much history/connection there had been.

  16. DarkHorseSD says:

    LoL!

  17. SouthernSB says:

    Hi Everyone,
    Hope you are having a good morning. Sweetie, Kms2013 and SunshineSD you have mail.

  18. SunShineSD says:

    @GenuineSD
    Is that the same girl that you stayed with for a number of years? IIRC, she just finished her degree program, yes? Perhaps it’s just part of her growing up process, trying to see what else is out there. IIRC, you guys have quite a serious relationship with each other; sometimes girls get panic attacks after being in that kind of relationship for a while. You may want to sit her down and tell her where your line in the sand is, without “confronting” her per se; be understanding but let her know the line, perhaps setting the threshold a notch or two below your actual line, so she has something to rebel against and get away with it. She may think she’s just going on some harmless dates on her own to gain a sense of self outside your space, and actually believes it; Cosmopolitan type rags damage young female brains by the millions. All will be passe so long as she doesn’t get disease or get pregnant; if the latter does happen, well, she will just have made a road kill out of herself, her own problem.

    Unfortunately, investing in a person carries the inherent risk of the asset walking out the door, by her own deliberate free will or by mistake. Such is life.

  19. gentle(man)soul says:

    @ Genuine SD

    ” A friend stumbled across her at a local club, alone, apparently looking to be picked up… And now, tho we had plans she’s come up with a story a outing needing “me time” but had actually organized a group to go clubbing…”

    I agree she is moving on -bored ,stifled ,smothered , whatever .

    Since “there’s a whole lot of connection and history to this” I think she owes you a frank discussion about what is going on . Many unanswered ??s such as Monogamy ? Did you discuss this and commit to it ? Are you married living with wife ? The line is blurred in Sugar World between NSA and real feelings and commitment . Maybe she seeks a more IRL relationship if you are not physically /emotionally available as much as she desires . You need to get an answer and plan your post SB action if her answers are not satisfactory .

  20. Kms2013 says:

    “Also, commenting on someone’s without personalexperience dilutes one’s credibility. ”

    It was a joke, Josh 😉 Will take loss of credibility, then….FB is too much man for me, I would assume 😉

    GenuineSD…welcome back! Have missed your thoughtful and insightful posts. You are one of the few SD’s, on blog, who actually seems legitimate and knowledgable with real experience in actual
    arrangements.

    As for your situation…and you mention ‘pub’, so perhaps you are in UK? In US, I think it is different to go have a drink or two, at a bar alone, than in pub, in UK? Just because I noticed, when I lived in UK, that pubs were more of a family place and many people would go there alone a lot? Might be very wrong in that assumption, though…Either way she was not seen with another man…It seems like, maybe, she just wanted to be alone and have a drink? Am very much like this, sometimes…in that I have canceled a meeting/date or two, once in awhile, just because would rather be in solitude that particular evening. It had nothing to do with not feeling different about the man or anything about him. Or, maybe she did want to see some of her girlfriends and get noticed by a few males. Women need validation sometimes, just as men do, and is fun to be flirty out with your female friends but does not mean she followed through with anything, but she did lie to you….am not sure what to say, except, if it were my Sd, would appreciate him speaking with me about it, and his thoughts/feelings before he assumed the worst and moved on….

  21. @FlyR “…most of the world’s wisdom comes from an earlier time while most of its knowledge is more recent. It’s the issue of confusing knowledge with wisdom that leaves you puzzled.”

    I like that. Interesting concept.

  22. elaine says:

    @ GenuineSD 

    Talk to her, …ask why and what and let her answer.
    Don’t jump into conclusions.
    She souds like she is worth it.
    And unless what some are thinking here, it is hard to find the right SB where you can have such connection with!

    Invest this 20 min.in a personal meeting before you decide to move on or not.

  23. elaine says:

    KissesFromKloe says:

    July 13, 2014 at 2:08 am

    I live in Sydney, Australia and just received a wink from someone living in Hong Kong :s This is annoying.

    And why exactly is that annoying?
    For the wink part or the distance?

  24. Josh says:

    @ygtbkm

    I like to keep things simple. I have no idea what you wrote above. Sorry that you had to do all the cut n paste. 😉

  25. FatB'StardSD says:

    @flyR

    A wise person understands that a proverb should be understood by the target audience and a knowledgable person has the ability to rephrase a proverb to that end. You are an ass.

    Have a nice day!

  26. flyR says:

    @FB “Empty Wagons make the most noise”

    I realize it is pre Xbox and pre SA – but most of the world’s wisdom comes from an earlier time while most of its knowledge is more recent. It’s the issue of confusing knowledge with wisdom that leaves you puzzled .

  27. @Josh

    Oh wow. Really? Interject a completely unrelated comment with no context?

    Since you mention…

    The comment to which you’re referring is as pasted; side notes added.

    “[Name omitted] says:

    “I’m an annonymous hot nerd turning into a much older man who is going to need a spousal strategy to if I’m ever going to become Mr. Married.

    aliceS says:
    June 10, 2014 at 4:06 pm
    Well I’m an ugly guy from Ghana, pretending to be a nice female from France I think we are even

    yougottabekiddingme says:
    Ugly AND African?

    Alice says: @yougottabekiddingme I understand what you are trying to say. Buy no. I’m not racist. Nor I think African Americans are ugly. As we all know, Ghana have the highest numbers of catfish. That’s why I said it. So please. Don’t create drama, where there is none

    Josh says: @yougottabekiddingme

    Even though you have picked the wrongest gal to accuse for whatever you are trying to allude here, let’s see what kind of drama you are able to create. LOL!

    Keep in mind if you create enough drama around whatever you are up to then SA staff will write a subsequent blog article to address that topic.

    yougottabekiddingme says: @Alice

    I have enjoyed reading much of what you share on the forum. I wasn’t sure what you meant by that particular comment. It makes sense, though, with the frame of reference. Thanks for that :). [Translation: I replied to a comment without understanding the context].

    Your pictures, by the way, are very lovely and tastefully done. I’ve noticed the last couple.

    @urbandictionarydotcom

    Thank you for enlightening me before I got around to asking what the hell catfish had to do with anything. [Translation: I should have a better idea of what is being said before I open my mouth.]

    On that note…When did the Ghanaian catfish surpass the Nigerian catfish? [Translation: Demonstrates understanding and correct use of terminology as contextually relevant.]

    yougottabekiddingme says: @Josh

    Are you saying you’re looking for a partner in crime? Rhetorical question, of course ;-p. [Translation: I have read your posts, Im aware that you will challenge positions (objectively, a good part of the time), and I’m teasing by giving you your own line.]

    As for the blogs you mention…yougottabekiddingme. If only I had time to reply. [Translation: I have followed the blog, and have found many comments absurd.]

    All things sugary, [Translation: No harm intended]

    yougottabekiddingme

    Alice says: @yougottabekiddingme there’s anything worse than unappreciated sarcasm maybe with my almost English I mess up a bit and might confuse people. [My interpretation: The sarcasm went over your head, but Ill graciously acknowledge your attempt at reconciliation.]”

    That is the exchange to which Josh is referring.

    Alice, your English, by the way, is fairly well written, and I find your use of idioms endearing…ex: “That cracked me up.” I should tell you–and perhaps I should’ve elaborated before– that my question of your comment sort of stemmed from having read previous posts where others have accused members of SA of being racist. My personal thoughts on that topic–having an international perspective– is lengthy, and really not relevant. I will say that sometimes people make innocent comments that are in fact racist (or otherwise offensive) even though the person had no racist or offensive intention. In that, certain attitudes can be unintentionally and unconsciously projected, inadvertently validating previous claims. Take this example that Josh might remember from the Brown and Beautiful thread:

    “Josh says:
    May 18, 2014 at 3:55 pm
    @[name omitted]

    “We don’t typically look at a dog or cow and think it superior or inferior because its fur is blond, brown, black, etc.”

    [Josh replied] Is it just me to have an eerie feeling that Ms. DominantSB is not going to like this example.”

    He’s not calling [name omitted] racist, though he is stating that someone might take offense to [name omitted’s] comment.

    That is what I was questioning…not that you personally are racist. At any rate, this wasn’t the case with your comment. I simply didn’t understand the context, and I apologize…that’s my own fault. Has nothing to do with your English.

    @Josh

    I have zero problem acknowledging my own fuck ups. “Everyone is enlightened but me.” So do school me, because I’ll definitely study. That said, I still don’t see how what you quoted has any bearing on my position as relevant to the posts to which my comments apply. You are, however, welcome to pick out the parts of stirred stew that you find distasteful or contrasting. Ill either eat it, or feed it back to you. I have seen few here who will sit on both sides of the table.

  28. Poisonivy_XoXo says:

    Is it just me or has it changed from winks, to private photo requests? I think that there needs to be a message base before being able to request to view private photos. But my last, oh, 4 messages have been requests to view my private photos. I think it is just as impersonal as winks.

  29. Moe El says:

    Since the wink disappear, i’ve been getting at least one email a day that contain only the SA disclosure. Not a big fan of winks but just having email sent to you letting you know someone viewed your email is kind of depressing to me. You can look but not going to speak—seem kind of rude in a way. But there has been a few profiles that I have been on that I dont have any interest in and I get an email from that person and i’m conflicted on what to do.

    Is it a major delay with post on the blog or is it just me.

  30. sweetie says:

    Elaine, just emailed you!!!!

    Southern, I emailed you yesterday. Haven’t heard back. Please reply! I double checked the address you posted on SA, so all clear there. Check your spam, I guess. My account shows message as sent.

  31. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    “if vagina in question is use by FB, it can be run like throwing a pencil down a mineshaft”

    Hmmm, if a vagina is like a mineshaft, even elephant’s would be like a pencil.

    Also, commenting on someone’s without personalexperience dilutes one’s credibility. 😉

  32. “Moe El says:
    am i the only one that interested in yougottabekiddingme2014 story. She writes long passionate reply posts. Just wonder where her fuel come from. Is she the head of the National sugarbabies association or something?”

    @Moe

    My “fuel”…

    I’m passionate about ideas. I’m passionate about possibilities. I’m passionate about people, and I’m passionate about how I share myself.

    As for being the head of the National Sugar Babies Association…

    The head of the National Sugar Babies Association is likely a man ;-p.

    I came here to gather and share perspective.

  33. GenuineSD says:

    Greetings all! It’s been 6 orc7 months since I visited here… I’m in an arrangement that until recently, has been great. Better than great.
    I seek a little unbiased advice tho…
    We’ve had an amazingly open “transparent” relationship until last week…. A friend stumbled across her at a local club, alone, apparently looking to be picked up… And now, tho we had plans she’s come up with a story a outing needing “me time” but had actually organized a group to go clubbing…
    Ok. So first we’ve got a breach of our agreement
    Second we’ve got some obvious lies…
    I’m reasonably sure what this means.
    Or am I ?
    Is this a case of “next !!”
    Or should I confront her?
    Any thoughts, please.
    Btw there’s a whole lot of connection and history to this… As tho that counts for a lot right now ….
    ThAnks

  34. Hummingbird says:

    I prefer receiving ‘wink’ email notifications (of which I can respond either negatively or positively) in my personal email than ‘your profile has been viewed’ which are completely empty and meaningless since I have no way of knowing if the guy is actually interested or not and with that I have no reason to respond or even care to know about it. You talk about ‘wink’ blowing up your inbox, but ‘viewed’ is way worse. I’m contemplating removing myself from SA altogether just to keep my personal email inbox clean.

  35. @FlyR
    “If you follow this character is the first screen”

    I’m not sure what you mean.

  36. KissesFromKloe says:

    I live in Sydney, Australia and just received a wink from someone living in Hong Kong :s This is annoying.

  37. Eddie says:

    Powerful statement there. Awesome.

  38. Josh says:

    @SunShineSD

    “Sometimes I wish I could find joy in simple liaisons like you do instead of having to take things a little too seriously.”

    That’s the self-created curse you will have to live, I guess. 😉

  39. Kms2013 says:

    “@Kms2014

    John Fitzgerald Page (if what he claims is true) has more going for him than 90% of the men any SB on the site has dated IRL. I bet he gets you moist and you just don’t want to admit it.”

    My particular cartel only allows such moist conditions for at least a handsome douche 😉

    Pretty much everything he claims is all false–that guy is horrible! A good guy friend of mine was a sort of friend of his until he really got to know him…

  40. Kms2013 says:

    And just to clarify, and not referring to my vag jay jay…hypothetical average vagina is being referenced that is thought to be run by cartels.

  41. Kms2013 says:

    “@FB

    “Some women want access to vagina to be run like a cartel and they get upset when they see “unworthy” SD’s using their influence to have some fun.”

    Hahaha. That’s a good one.”

    It’s a woman’s vagina, not a communal water fountain, so I reckon she can run it like a haunted house and push away the cobwebs, if she so chooses, once in awhile…or, if vagina in question is use by FB, it can be run like throwing a pencil down a mineshaft 😉

  42. Kms2013 says:

    “Thanks for the talk Doctor .”

    You are welcome…I say men and women can always use more vitamin P.

  43. SunShineSD says:

    @Moe El
    LOL, used to see those posts in different context before lesbian marriage was legalized. Who knows, perhaps lesbian marriage have now been legal long enough to have resulted in divorces. LOL.

  44. SunShineSD says:

    @gentle(man)soul

    No need to be apologetic. Your approach to sugar and mine are about as diametrically different as they get in terms of the depth of relationship being sought. Either one however is better than some (hypothetical) drug whore trying to form a cartel pricing at 4-digit for a weekend getting up between 3am and 6am to bash every SD either wanting more relationship or less relationship than that drug-enhanced (and potentially lethal) weekend.

    The way I see it, some of us are willing to make a major commitment to the right girl; however, due to the size of commitment to each SB getting on that track, those SD’s can only help a small number of SB’s. That leaves many SB’s still looking for help. If you don’t step forward with your bids, the remaining SB’s would just have to settle for lower bids. As simple as that. So there is no need to feel apologetic about what you are doing. Sometimes I wish I could find joy in simple liaisons like you do instead of having to take things a little too seriously. LOL.

  45. KatPaw says:

    @JamieSB

    Sorry took so long to respond. I currently live in KY indecently I am in NY this weekend visiting family and friends… It’s NC I plan to move to hopefully the next couple weeks.

  46. KatPaw says:

    Wow….
    Flabbergasted.

  47. FatB'StardSD says:

    @Kms2014

    John Fitzgerald Page (if what he claims is true) has more going for him than 90% of the men any SB on the site has dated IRL. I bet he gets you moist and you just don’t want to admit it.

  48. FatB'StardSD says:

    @flyr

    “empty wagons make the most noise”

    How fucking old are you? The Model T Ford was around in the early 1900’s and you are talking about wagons!

    I think I have discovered flyr’s identity…

    [\img\]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=067ZRcsrdeM[\img\]

  49. Moe El says:

    am i the only one that interested in yougottabekiddingme2014 story. She writes long passionate reply posts. Just wonder where her fuel come from. Is she the head of the National sugarbabies association or something?

  50. Josh says:

    @FB

    “Some women want access to vagina to be run like a cartel and they get upset when they see “unworthy” SD’s using their influence to have some fun.”

    Hahaha. That’s a good one.

  51. flyR says:

    Winkies

    Still wondering why I got a wink overnight . Is my mail that slow.

  52. Josh says:

    @ygtbkm

    “Curious…would that be power of the pussy squared?

    No it won’t be. It would be relationship sabotage squared. But good luck anyway…;)

  53. MagicCitySB says:

    @Gentle(man)Soul- Thanks so much for the feedback, I had no idea which way to go with it! Writing with a glass of wine always sounds like a good idea, but is it ever really? I’m cutting those unnecessary parts out right now.

  54. gentle(man)soul says:

    @KMS

    “do any of these girls, 40 plus years your junior, still talk to you, visit you, or have dinner with you, once the money stops flowing in?”

    Yes they do .

    That begs the bigger question –Why are we all really here KMS ? I would say that you are here in this world of sugar for the right reasons . I would like to be pure about it but my life circumstances prevent me from being an SD in the traditional sense of things . Married ,not free to date out and about ,and finances ample but difficult to hide large outlays for “unapproved ” reasons such as philandering . I know there is as much disapproval for my activities in this (and all ) communities as there is accepting money for sex. Ergo ,since I enjoy being around beautiful young women ,I continue to have arrangements which involve only bedroom activities . I do miss the whole relationship which I have had several times, which involved dating, wining ,dining ,talking, mentoring ,etc . There was true intimacy and caring for each other beyond money and sex . I know I am refusing to grow up ,and am reliving my youth by doing now what I was never able to do at the appropriate time of life .But it brings me great pleasure, and I believe it does my SBs as well. Would they want to “date” me IRL ? Naaah ! 40 + years is a little too much ,but I know they enjoy our time together . Girls have needs too as you correctly pointed out LOL

    Thanks for the talk Doctor .

  55. Marissa says:

    I have no issue with this being gone, actually, I’m happy! I have to sift through messages everyday and if I see a wink I’ll move right along. People aren’t turned on to someone who just leaves winks because they’re too lazy or shy to address them. Now it’s time to see more effort. :-)

  56. K says:

    Its a good thing that the “Wink” button has been removed and just a part of history now. It makes SBs “needy” or “too obvious” although not all of us are and it makes SDs “creepy” and “asking do have it” It’ll give users more challenge to be creative and to stand out as for SBs :)

  57. Josh says:

    @ygtbkm

    “Im actually a really sweet and lovely girl, but some of the attitudes here are toxic.”

    We had another blogger “girl” who claimed about the same while being rude and abnoxious to no end.

    You are a bit more considerate in your approach though and I respect your right to openly express yourself.

  58. Josh says:

    @ygtbkm

    “Jamie, I apologize that by the time you caught up with the blog, my niceties had expired”

    Hmmm, your first post was accusing alice (one of the sweetest bloggers here) of racism. If that’s “nicety” then it has definitely expired because you have not accused anyone of racism again. 😉

  59. mare says:

    Loved the winks!! It is an easy way to start an email. Then take it from there and um yes in 5 dys Really!! No one find an arrangenment in 5 days!

  60. Elaine says:

    @ Sweety,

    Your adress doesn’t seem to work.
    Would you mind contacting me? .-)
    elainesablog at gmail

  61. SincerelySingle says:

    I signed up to this site this afternoon. Curiously, I had received two winks before reading this blog post just now. I’d be happy for the wink functionality to be removed. It’s been more of an annoyance than beneficial on other sites.

  62. flyR says:

    YGTBKM “I familiarize myself with the exits behind any unknown door. Indeed, I know my way out.”

    You and I are in more agreement than you probably realize.

    Rule 1 – For your sake and that of your fellow SB or SD (as the case may be) don’t reward bad behavior. It works for German Sheppard s, boyfriends, girlfriends, politicians and employee/employer and life in general. If you follow this character is the first screen

  63. flyR says:

    Or Texans ” all hat , no cattle

  64. flyR says:

    @ygobkm “o be honest, I really give few shits about meeting someone on this site, if the people on this site are as portrayed by the loudest voices here.”

    Downeasters are as thrifty with their words as with their cash ie

    Old New England = “empty wagons make the most noise”

  65. @kms Thanks for reaching out…glad to talk with you :).

  66. Anzhela says:

    Wow, so many comments! :)
    Didn’t know this website was so popular.
    On the subject:
    I personally don’t miss winks at all. I think the only people sending them were people who were shy to speak in the first place and there is nothing wrong with being shy, I just don’t really like shy people who can’t say what they like, want or need :)

  67. Kms2013 says:

    Hi southern, I emailed you earlier today….check your spam or trash. Email apparently knows how to categorize me better than anyone, hehe!

    “You mention the good fuck. You obviously don’t even remember what you write. Find a husband/wife or BF/GF if you want to feel empowered, KMS2013 is available. Gentle(man)soul has his fun and his SB gets her help. Mutually beneficial Arrangement. Some women want access to vagina to be run like a cartel and they get upset when they see “unworthy” SD’s using their influence to have some fun. These woman are mentally ill.”

    It feels like high school, back when the ugly guys in school found out you didn’t like them and they accuse you of being lesbian, or crazy/weird/mentally ill because, ‘how dare you not like them?’. Actually, if I was into women, would definitely like someone as witty as ygbkm, for the record, hehe…

    Fbeestard, have you ever thought about running for ‘The Worst Person in the World’ title, given to certain internet connoisseurs of insults extordnairre? You could copy and paste some of your finer material…unlimited visits to Denny’s all you can eat breakfast buffet for a year, might be considered in lieu of the usual award? You could go down in infamy, with previous kings of douche, such as John Fitzgerald Page, if you know of him(WPITW 2007, I believe 😉

  68. sweetie says:

    Kidding “More on the 1% who reside here. Just because you are in the 1% doesnt mean that basic principles of ethics shouldnt apply. And dont go spouting relativity. I dont care what the context of the interaction is. When it comes to situations of vulnerability, s/he who knows, yields. S/he who has, is benevolent, and s/he who needs is gracious. This goes for both parties. Men, dont be manipulative scumbags. Ladies, dont be manipulative skanks. Whether the need is of monetary or affectionate sorts, it shouldnt be exploited by the person with the upperhand merely because they have the fiscal or anatomical resources with which to do so.”

    Amen to that!

  69. @FatBstard

    ” @YGTOBKM
    “If a SB has had a good fuck then what is the problem. That what empowered SB’s are looking for when they hook up with young sexy guys IRL outside of arrangements is it not? Is the problem that you think older SD’s should not be allowed to give a SB a good fuck?””

    This was your quote:

    “How about starting a support group for the tormented psyches of some of these girls after they’ve been “narrowed down”, reduced to a good fuck, then dismissed. Because yeah, that’s where every girl sets her intention everyday when she wakes up in the morning.'”

    You mention the good fuck. You obviously don’t even remember what you write. Find a husband/wife or BF/GF if you want to feel empowered, KMS2013 is available. Gentle(man)soul has his fun and his SB gets her help. Mutually beneficial Arrangement. Some women want access to vagina to be run like a cartel and they get upset when they see “unworthy” SD’s using their influence to have some fun. These woman are mentally ill.”

    [sighs]

    FatBstard…
    While you did correctly copy and paste my quote…twice…you also managed to misread it…twice. Please re-read and try again. In fact, let me help you.

    THESE girls after THEY’ve been “narrowed down”, reduced to a good fuck, then dismissed. In this example, FB, it’s the girls being reduced to a good fuck…not the Big D(dollar, of course) sugar daddy.

    And just so you know, Big D Daddy, I am sufficiently empowered by my own ambition. As for Kms…well, Josh DID say that she’s smoking hot, and I AM younger, much to her liking. So hey…first time for everything ;). Curious…would that be power of the pussy squared? Now THAT’S empowering. Look at you, coming up with mathematical equations. Impressive. And no, FatBstard, you can’t watch ;-p.

    On a genuinely friendly note…

    I really don’t like to fight and argue…especially within a community. And I dunno, maybe people don’t regard this as a community. At any rate, it’s a place that we all visit for whatever reason, and I suppose it could be more civil than it is right now. Can we all just cyber kiss (no butt grabbing, please) and make up? I mean…not like all together… unless…well…you know what I mean.

  70. SouthernSB says:

    Hi all,
    I see I have a few requests for my e-mail. I just want to say thanks for the concern and my e-mail is dviv.dc @ gmail dot com. I would especially would like to talk to SSSD and KMS so that I can clear a few things up. As for my financial situation, I don’t think I could become a webcam girl LittleSB, unless there is a site that specializes in 48 year old African-American GILFs. 😉

  71. Kms2013 says:

    “Men want release with a smile Elaine. We don’t care what our bodies look like –except the viagra laden wand

    Maybe women need to be loved .”

    @gentlemansoul….

    Women want release as well….we like sex…we like to be attracted to whom we are having sex with. I think both men and women want ‘love’ at least at one point in their lives…Maybe, not all women love sex, but i do….That, is the line that separates what I do from an escort, in my opinion. If I am only having sex with someone for the money, am not attracted to them, and would not be interested in dating them in real life, then why am I an SB? Why not just become what that is, yes? Sex for money….I see it as I am getting help from a man, who ‘wants’ to make my life easier, and who is not promising me a future, as far as marriage, serious relationship, ect., but still enjoy being with him, both physically and personality-wise, and would date them in regular life, if the situation/timing were different. Most of my past SD’s…well, I am still friends with them, talk to them, occasionally still see them, or have dinner with them, even though we no longer are in an arrangement.

    It is your money and your life, and am not trying to be rude or judgmental, but am just curious…do any of these girls, 40 plus years your junior, still talk to you, visit you, or have dinner with you, once the money stops flowing in? If so, then I am wrong in what I assume….

  72. FatB'StardSD says:

    @YGTOBKM

    “@FatBstard “If a SB has had a good fuck then what is the problem. That what empowered SB’s are looking for when they hook up with young sexy guys IRL outside of arrangements is it not? Is the problem that you think older SD’s should not be allowed to give a SB a good fuck?””

    This was your quote:

    “How about starting a support group for the tormented psyches of some of these girls after they’ve been “narrowed down”, reduced to a good fuck, then dismissed. Because yeah, that’s where every girl sets her intention everyday when she wakes up in the morning.”

    You mention the good fuck. You obviously don’t even remember what you write. Find a husband/wife or BF/GF if you want to feel empowered, KMS2013 is available. Gentle(man)soul has his fun and his SB gets her help. Mutually beneficial Arrangement. Some women want access to vagina to be run like a cartel and they get upset when they see “unworthy” SD’s using their influence to have some fun. These woman are mentally ill.

  73. Kms2013 says:

    Yougottabekiddingme….if you are interested, would love to speak with you on email….

  74. Hateful? Ouch.

    One time in Sunday school, I asked why my friends (despite being good people) had to burn in hell because they believed in a different God (despite that this belief caused no harm to themselves or anyone else). I was told that there is only one God…from the beginnings to infinity…and that I should stop asking so many questions. I dont go to Sunday school anymore. May the blog gods (do you really exist?) spare me from the pits of fiery scrutiny for having an objective opinion and experience of applied practice.

    @Jamie “@ygtbk: wow why so much hate for SA?
    I agree on heaps unreal marketing scheme by SA but wow that’s still a lot of hate? Maybe don’t join the site and walk away? I’m sure hatred is not healthy?
    I myself find my SD from some other website! We never discuss allowance and such but he has been extremely generous. Genuine SDs does exist. Just be patient!!”

    Jamie, I apologize that by the time you caught up with the blog, my niceties had expired, and the thread to which my sentiment stems, no longer exists for you to reference, because it’s been deleted in it’s entirety, despite that the so-called blog gods couldve surely deleted posts they found offensive, but then again, maybe they found the entire thread offensive, which isnt saying much being that much of the blog is offensive, so perhaps they should just delete the whole damned blog ;).

    Further, I am not “impatient” about meeting anyone on this site. To be honest, I really give few shits about meeting someone on this site, if the people on this site are as portrayed by the loudest voices here. My interest is in meeting quality people. If I do meet someone, great, if I dont, I will be just fine. Though I would be interested in making/keeping contact with some here on the blog. Im also not concerned with putting on any face to appeal to someone on a superficial level. Im actually a really sweet and lovely girl, but some of the attitudes here are toxic. My thoughts on sugar–to quote someone from a previous thread–“…don’t play games with a girl who’s willing to walk away with nothing.” Im sure that you and some here are nice people in real life. It’s hard to distinguish, though, behind facades and motives of “the game”.

    @SunshineSD “Very good point about not harboring hatred. A lot of things in real life are less than ideal; even roses come with thorns.”

    Just stop, Sunshine. You really have some nerve, “Very good point about not harboring hatred.” Pfff. How about waving the hatred flag over your attack on Kms’ ovar[ies]? Wave the hatred flag over yourself while youre running amuck snapping at people like an infectious K-9. Try reading the blog etiquette that’s only been viewed by 4320 people.

    @FatBstard “If a SB has had a good fuck then what is the problem. That what empowered SB’s are looking for when they hook up with young sexy guys IRL outside of arrangements is it not? Is the problem that you think older SD’s should not be allowed to give a SB a good fuck?”

    Who said it was a good fuck for her? Even gentle(man) soul is “not fooled into thinking that a 22 yr old is sexually stimulated by [him]”…but “as long as she acts interested and excited, [he dont care none].”

    What makes me feel empowered, FatBstard, is a man who recognizes my potential and encourages me to actualize it. What makes me feel empowered, FatBstard, are women like Kms and some of the others here, who are doing just that. A lady does, afterall, have to have means after the “age of nubility” passes her by, and once generous benefactors turn away like inverted erections. Complete 180, apparently.

    @ FlyR “If you(SD or SB) find sugar to be abusive, demeaning, unsatisfactory, unrewarding, degrading, disgusting, uneconomic or in any way offensive there’s two exit doors – a) exit and remain outside the sugar world together with 99% of the population or b) identify what you dislike and move to the other end of the pool.”

    I familiarize myself with the exits behind any unknown door. Indeed, I know my way out.

    More on the 1% who reside here. Just because you are in the 1% doesnt mean that basic principles of ethics shouldnt apply. And dont go spouting relativity. I dont care what the context of the interaction is. When it comes to situations of vulnerability, s/he who knows, yields. S/he who has, is benevolent, and s/he who needs is gracious. This goes for both parties. Men, dont be manipulative scumbags. Ladies, dont be manipulative skanks. Whether the need is of monetary or affectionate sorts, it shouldnt be exploited by the person with the upperhand merely because they have the fiscal or anatomical resources with which to do so.

    I keep hearing this argument of how “that’s the way things are, the way theyve always been.” I happen to have a foot in two worlds…the way things are (in the sense of modern, socially inscribed institutions), and the way things should and could be. What saddens me is that it seems that many have no concept of the way things COULD be. Theyre blindly fed “the way it is”, and take it as the only meal theyll ever eat. Women are expected to keep their legs open, mouths and minds closed, and be forever at the mercy of a man’s givings. Fuck.That.Shit. Who needs a door to walk out of, when you can jump the fucking fence. yougottabekiddingme2014 at gmail dot com

  75. gentle(man)soul says:

    @Elaine

    How many 60y. old females could have sex with 20y. old males without worrying constantly about her body looking saggy? (Ok,the ones that are not called Christy Brinkley!) 😉
    And how many would really enjoy sex with said 20y. guy, knowing he is just not into her, but into her money?

    Men want release with a smile Elaine. We don’t care what our bodies look like –except the viagra laden wand

    Maybe women need to be loved .

    The bigger question is would a 20 yr old want to have sex with a 60 yr old woman even for money ?

  76. Kms2013 says:

    “And finally 2 hour erections : Overrated since it gets a little sore after 1 hour and most partners are not interested in marathon fucking . But ! One of my SBs at the moment is insatiable and orgasms many many times . She wears me out and I get a little tired but I can make her happy .”

    Okay, okay…fair enough 😉 TMI….hehe

  77. gentle(man)soul says:

    @ KMS
    ” why have an arrangement with my dad’s age, when I can get younger?”
    ” Paying for the company of younger women drives some into quite a delusional state, hehe”
    ” Are you referring to after you take a Viagra pill?”

    All fair comments/questions ladies .

    KMS indeed ,if your taste for and ability to acquire youngsters why not ? Good for you ! Each to his/her own .

    “Hiring ” a girlfriend is essentially Sugar life . But I never forget that without the allowance there would be no young girls -period.

    Viagra ?? Yes indeedy !! I could not and would not venture forth without it . I have no ego need to get a stunning long lasting erection without it . I wish I could but I go with what works .

    And finally 2 hour erections : Overrated since it gets a little sore after 1 hour and most partners are not interested in marathon fucking . But ! One of my SBs at the moment is insatiable and orgasms many many times . She wears me out and I get a little tired but I can make her happy .

  78. Elaine says:

    Wonder if it is a womans thing….
    No offense, no attack,just genuine wondering.

    How many 60y. old females could have sex with 20y. old males without worrying constantly about her body looking saggy? (Ok,the ones that are not called Christy Brinkley!) 😉
    And how many would really enjoy sex with said 20y. guy, knowing he is just not into her, but into her money?

    I think for most women that would be the biggest turn off possible.
    Wereas men don’t seem to care, or are just better in illuding themselves?

    Well maybe indeed they come from Mars and we from Venus…. :-)

  79. Poisonivy_XoXo says:

    AMEN! I haven’t read the 200+ comments this posting has, so if someone has already said this then kudos!

    I was always so annoyed when SD’s from all over would just wink. To me a wink could mean anywhere from “I’m shy, message me.” to “You’re hot. The End.” And I never knew how to take them!

    I am so happy they are done with! Now people will actually have to put some thought into a message. Amazing idea!

  80. Josh says:

    Has anyone here seen SA’s “who says money can’t buy you happiness” ad?

  81. Josh says:

    Has anyone here seen the “who says Michael ney can’t buy you happiness” ad?

  82. Elaine says:

    That being said, I find my SD physically very attractive, and I love having sex with him, but even then….pffffff…hours?!

    Really?

    And I don’t want to get back to the escort discussion, but …. 😉

  83. Elaine says:

    How many 20 yr old girls really want a 60y.old (grand) daddy going loose on them,… for several hours!!??
    Ahhh, the disadvantage of age sometimes….

    Just sayin” 😉

  84. CrushingSB says:

    “So ladies who have to find the romantic love of your life on SA are the exception rather than the rule . I am NOT attracted to many women over 30, I don’t care how fit they are . It is biology in selecting the most nubile,fertile,and energetic of the species. And many SDs feel the same way. Biology does it’s thing unfortunately and tissue ,hair quality ,and attitude all take a beating as one ages. I am not fooled into thinking that a 22 yr old is sexually stimulated by me like she would be by a 26 yr old stud ,but I don’t care as long as she acts interested and excited . And after a session with Daddy judging by the decibles generated multiple times ,they are surprisingly pleased and eager to return for a flogging and payday of course . How many 20 yr old guys can keep it up and going for several hours ? Ahhh ,the advantage of age sometimes .”

    Is that after the Viagra kicks in? 😉

  85. gentle(man)soul says:

    @Magic City SB

    Welcome to the sugar world ! You are attractive ,accomplished ans sound like a nifty person . As an SD I lost you after the 2nd paragraph. I like to see a fairly short and sweet profile. And leave the negatives out about who should NOT contact you .Most POT SBs are not escorts and most (well some ) SDs are not creepers . Save the details for later discussions with the interested Daddies .

    Here is what I look at in this order:
    1) location : are you doable for the SD’s schedule ?
    2) looks : a good picture of your face and one of your entire body -you are perfect on that
    3) demographics: age ,school,work,parenting details . Guys will rule in or out based on this category . i.e. if you are over 30 I will not look further,if you have kids ,same answer .
    4) personal descriptions of you and what you are looking for . Waaaay tmi for me . There are a lot of profiles to look at and if I can’t get a sense of who you are in a quick read I will move on . Include 2 paras for each category in your profile .
    5)attitude : you exhibit some negativity in stating what you don’t want .Concentrate on what you do want .Eliminate the para about perverts and picture collectors . BTW ,older guys are mostly looking for a hot young girl to hook up with . That does not make them pervs .It is insulting .

    Good luck. If an SB passes these categories then I will contact her .YMMV

    2)Demographics

  86. FatB'StardSD says:

    @gentle(man) soul

    “Getting SBs is easy as pie in a biggish market”.

    Finding an attractive SB is not hard. Finding an attractive SB who is nice and fun to be with is another story. A SD will probably have to go through a few arrangements to find a good SB. It’s a lot like dating and better in some ways because you get to have sex while looking for a good SB, and there should be no hard feelings when you leave your SB for someone you have a better connection with.

  87. Kms2013 says:

    “So ladies who have to find the romantic love of your life on SA are the exception rather than the rule . I am NOT attracted to many women over 30, I don’t care how fit they are . It is biology in selecting the most nubile,fertile,and energetic of the species. And many SDs feel the same way. Biology does it’s thing unfortunately and tissue ,hair quality ,and attitude all take a beating as one ages. I am not fooled into thinking that a 22 yr old is sexually stimulated by me like she would be by a 26 yr old stud ,but I don’t care as long as she acts interested and excited . And after a session with Daddy judging by the decibles generated multiple times ,they are surprisingly pleased and eager to return for a flogging and payday of course . How many 20 yr old guys can keep it up and going for several hours ? Ahhh ,the advantage of age sometimes .

    Just sayin “

    Paying for the company of younger women drives some into quite a delusional state, hehe

    To each their own, but 60 is way too old for me. Haven’t had any problems finding men close to my age, for arrangements, as we relate better, emotionally, sexually and just through common interests. And, their skin and neither regions isn’t wrinkly and saggy yet, like it is at 60 :-/ of course, when I am that old, might reconsider, but why have an arrangement with my dad’s age, when I can get younger?

  88. Kms2014 says:

    ” How many 20 yr old guys can keep it up and going for several hours ? Ahhh ,the advantage of age sometimes .”

    You are 60? Are you referring to after you take a Viagra pill?

    Hehe, okay everyone, am sorry…will try and behave from now on, but some seem to ask for it, hehehe!

  89. Kms2014 says:

    “So ladies who have to find the romantic love of your life on SA are the exception rather than the rule . I am NOT attracted to many women over 30, I don’t care how fit they are . It is biology in selecting the most nubile,fertile,and energetic of the species. And many SDs feel the same way. Biology does it’s thing unfortunately and tissue ,hair quality ,and attitude all take a beating as one ages. I am not fooled into thinking that a 22 yr old is sexually stimulated by me like she would be by a 26 yr old stud ,but I don’t care as long as she acts interested and excited . And after a session with Daddy judging by the decibles generated multiple times ,they are surprisingly pleased and eager to return for a flogging and payday of course . How many 20 yr old guys can keep it up and going for several hours ? Ahhh ,the advantage of age sometimes .

    Just sayin “

    Paying for the company of younger women drives some into quite a delusional state, hehe 😉

    To each their own, but 60 is way too old for me. Haven’t had any problems finding men close to my age, for arrangements, as we relate better, emotionally, sexually and just through common interests. And, their skin and neither regions isn’t wrinkly and saggy yet, like it is at 60 :-/ of course, when I am that old, might reconsider, but why have an arrangement with my dad’s age, when I can get younger?

  90. SunShineSD says:

    @Josh

    No. Just a statement of fact.

  91. gentle(man) soul says:

    Wow ! I check out the blog and we’ve got a cat(pussy )fight going on . Yowza !!

    Getting SBs is easy as pie in a biggish market .All I do is send out a nice intro letter ,have a few TMs ,Emails ,and convos , and voila–a new SB . In my experience most SBs in the “real world ” are looking for money to help with their stresses . They seem to run the gamut from pros to one off college girls with little sexual experience . All it takes to start an arrangement is to be nice ,accommodating ,and respectful . I happen to be lucky that I am youthful for 60 something ,good looking,athletic ,etc . Not bragging, just stating the facts . Some girls are not falling over themselves to have sex with a guy their Daddy/Granddaddy age but have sex they will .It is a sure thing.And usually without attitude.

    So ladies who have to find the romantic love of your life on SA are the exception rather than the rule . I am NOT attracted to many women over 30, I don’t care how fit they are . It is biology in selecting the most nubile,fertile,and energetic of the species. And many SDs feel the same way. Biology does it’s thing unfortunately and tissue ,hair quality ,and attitude all take a beating as one ages. I am not fooled into thinking that a 22 yr old is sexually stimulated by me like she would be by a 26 yr old stud ,but I don’t care as long as she acts interested and excited . And after a session with Daddy judging by the decibles generated multiple times ,they are surprisingly pleased and eager to return for a flogging and payday of course . How many 20 yr old guys can keep it up and going for several hours ? Ahhh ,the advantage of age sometimes .

    Just sayin “

  92. Erik says:

    While I like the cleaner design of the new website, I feel it has lost a lot of usability, and frankly has a lot of bugs that simply make it so frustrating to use that i have reverted to the old site.

    The good:

    I like how you consolidate messages.
    I like the more fluid layout
    I like that Winks are gone, hated them

    The bad:

    * WAY too much whitespace
    * I prefer seeing all the thumbnails when I view the main profile
    * There is a nasty bug when using saved searches, it always shows the “default” order (which is last logged in), and you have to force it to get newest users, even though it claims to be newest users.
    * Copying and pasting text doesn’t work right in the message editor. I tend to use a small amount of “boilerplate” (personal stats, etc..) which I customize with more personal information for the person i’m initiating a message to. When i copy this, it requires reformatting.
    * Apparently, someone recently decided that all Nicknames have to be unique, which seems to encourage people to make up crazy handles rather than using their real names (or simple aliases). You didn’t used to require them to be unique, and obviously since many users still have the same name this is not required by your data model. I used to really like how SA was more “friendly” because most people just used common names… this is becoming less so.
    * I used to like how it would pop up new tabs when you clicked on a user, so i could keep a list of people i was interested in and then go back and figure out which ones I wanted to contact… now I have to do this manually.
    * I hate the tiny thumbnails in email… I liked the larger pictures in the old site.
    * did I mention how much I hate the tiny pictures in email?
    * Oh, I hate the tiny pictures…..

  93. sweetie says:

    Southern, I want your email as well. Or, write me at: 1 dot lisa dot zee at gmail. Kisses!

  94. Elaine says:

    @ Darkhorse

    Was that text in a profile? Or mailed to you?

    Gosh…if I post a picture were my face is not completely visible they don’t approve it, saying “Member should be clearly seeon on photo” (really!? and all those stomaches without a face?? )and this commercial ad passes moderation?

  95. MagicCitySB says:

    @DarkHorseSD-

    I’ve got a question regarding one of your earlier posts. You said,
    “Winks are gone, but now if you dare look at a profile she gets an email and then sends a moronic message acknowledging you looked at her profile”.

    Although this is my second time on SA I’m definitely still a NEWBIE. I found my previous arrangement after a a few months, but I feel like this time, things are unfolding a lot slower than last. I’ve been getting the emails, but I haven’t sent messages because I just figured that if they hadn’t sent me a message already, they weren’t interested. Could that be the case or do the men of SA prefer to be contacted first? I’m not quite sure of the nuances of of SA courtship, lol.

    Also at the risk of having my tiny ego ripped apart here, could someone take a look at my profile (#2200046) and let me know if I should change anything? I tried to compare to some of the other SB, but they didn’t really give me much to go on.

    If anyone has anything to offer on either of these matters, I’m all eyes. Thanks guys, and sorry about the ramblin’!

  96. DarkHorseSD says:

    That’s great Angela. Can you write all the SB members in the area of my summer home to mention SA to their more attractive girlfriends over 28?

  97. Josh says:

    @SunShineSD

    “I roll over and play dead quite easily for the mother(s) of my children and candidates to be, but I will certainly not back down from your insults thrown at them.”

    Consistency check: So all the talk about leaving this world a better place is just part of positioning, as you only care about your seeds and means to those seeds?

  98. LittleSB says:

    @SouthernSB you could always try being a webcam model. It is a lot of work but extra income..

  99. Josh says:

    @SunShineSD

    “I roll over and play dead quite easily for the mother(s) of my children and candidates to be, but I will certainly not back down from your insults thrown at them.”

    Consistency check: So all the talk about leaving this world a better place is just part of positioning, as you only care about your seeds and wombs for those seeds? 😉

  100. AN CHI says:

    I’d prefer writing a msg than putting a wink. “Wink” becomes too mainstream if everyone uses it, don’t you think so? 😉

  101. FatB'StardSD says:

    @aliceS

    5 days is easy if you know the secret. I am in a good mood so I will give you this help for free.

    1. Create a new profile. Choose Sugar Momma as your account type.
    2. Search for an older male SB.
    3. Offer them an allowance for sexy time.

    I guarantee you will have an arrangement in 5 days!

  102. RSD says:

    aliceS, I’m just talking about my own experience as an SD in his late thirties in a large US metropolitan area offering a steady allowance (typically 4k/mo for meeting twice a week). I’m sure things are different for SBs, other locations, other age groups, and different allowance ranges.

  103. aliceS says:

    what sly means??

  104. DarkHorseSD says:

    Alice, you sly Skunk, I just blocked 4 profiles in a row that came up in a search all the same person.

  105. DarkHorseSD says:

    Hello?

  106. aliceS says:

    Well I dont know about you guys, but I am on Sa since last october and the only SD I was spoiled by is Dark Horse and the funniest thing that we never met together. The only SD that I met wanted to have sex right away, without no protection and actually I spend on those dates, not him. So, tell me again about those 5 days

  107. RSD says:

    I really don’t think finding an arrangement in five days is difficult at all. When I was a noob SD I met like 20-25 SBs before one worked out for more than a few weeks (many bad arrangements in there), but then I learned how to select better and since then I’ve met at most two or three SBs before one worked out well.

    Twice I made an active profile just because I wanted one particular SB and each of those times I got the SB I wanted. Funniest was having an SB off a profile I made that was viewed zero times. I messaged the SB I wanted before my profile was approved, sent her links to my pics on photobucket, and we met and started an arrangement. She never even looked at my profile and neither did anyone else.

  108. aliceS says:

    Such* my phone have crazy thoughts today lol

  109. aliceS says:

    Angela thank you for suck quick reaction. Can I ask you a question? How come some members have double sa accounts? Is it allowed?

  110. Angela says:

    @DarkHorse

    No, we do not allow such profiles on SeekingArrangement, so thanks for bringing it to our attention! It’s being handled.

  111. SunShineSD says:

    I roll over and play dead quite easily for the mother(s) of my children and candidates to be, but I will certainly not back down from your insults thrown at them.

  112. SunShineSD says:

    I already told you several times: the ball is in your court. Keep insulting me, and you will get it back in spades. You started the fight by picking on me and my ideas. I do not initiate fights, but I do respond to every false accusations and insiunations. Apparently your drug-addled brain can not grasp the idea. “Crazy”? do you really want to talk about craziness on the day after your getting up between 3am and 6am to insult another poster and talk about purple sky?

  113. Kms2014 says:

    Yes, you are completely insane. And yes, you are ruining blog as I have had several people email me as such. Can you please take it down a notch. Even 50% less posts from you, so that others can actually speak? I’m not addressing you, anymore, so that others can actually get a word in without your crazy rants, and am sure they are tired of hearing us argue. It was fun for awhile, but arguing with a crazy person is a waste of one’s time.

  114. SunShineSD says:

    Don’t worry. I take that answer as a “Yes!”

  115. Kms2014 says:

    I tried to tease you into posting less, but my god, has made you post more….lol! You are crazier than mad hatter….

  116. SunShineSD says:

    @KMS
    Your enthusiasm and jealousy is showing 😉 Don’t you wish you had a proper sperminator 16+ years ago, so you could have counted on substantial help from your son’s biological father through all these years and beyond? So you don’t have to work the net so hard? Have your ovary checked out by your OB-Gyn if you are really as young in your own clock as you claim to be, perhaps there might be a gentleman in your own area who might be inspired by my writings and might be willing to take you on.

  117. SunShineSD says:

    @Josh
    1. What 13-14yo boys focus on in a woman is quite different from what the beauty pageant judges would focus on. All I can say is that, she was exceedingly hot and tempting when I was 13-14 years of age, and quite intelligent regardless age.

    2. I grew up in two different countries. When I arrived in the US at 15 to attend on boarding school on full scholarship, I had less than $1000 to my name, and no parents in the country to take care of me. That’s when I became independent. It took me another decade to earn my first 6-figure year.

  118. Kms2014 says:

    You want to be sperminated? Okay, Alice, to each their own. Sunshine, you have a willing donor recipient…toute de suite to France with you 😉

  119. aliceS says:

    Kms I actually like him. 😉 it’s better than regular sperm donor

  120. Kms2014 says:

    Did you hear that SA blog! Yay, at least one evening free of crazy old sperminator 😉

  121. SunShineSD says:

    LOL. It’s only a dinner interview for this evening. I’m not counting on any action beyond indulging in my seafood dinner and good company across the table.

  122. Josh says:

    My apologies…I did not read your whole treatise, my bad. 😉

    Two take aways…

    1. I was correct I assuming that the “teacher” was beauty pageant material.

    2. New information gather ed is that you grew up in a third world country. Not that there is anything wrong with that. 😉

  123. aliceS says:

    Don’t be a bastard. Just try to live with it 😉

  124. Kms2014 says:

    “Luckily, the stock of sperms in the body is replaced every 75 days or so, unlike the eggs sitting on the shelf since the beginning of her life. Otherwise, my baby making plan would have a big problem there indeed.”

    I disagree, think your biggest baby making hurdle/problem is that you are on blog so much, and not out ‘doing’, unless you are using your theoretical turkey baster.

  125. DarkHorseSD says:

    Alice, you Skunk, its summer and I’m not using a blanket anymore.

  126. SunShineSD says:

    Luckily, the stock of sperms in the body is replaced every 75 days or so, unlike the eggs sitting on the shelf since the beginning of her life. Otherwise, my baby making plan would have a big problem there indeed.

  127. aliceS says:

    Btw why that new version of seeking arrangement site unlocked my profile? I had it hidden and now I can’t find that option back

  128. aliceS says:

    Dark Horse :) it’s all your penis fault. That giant moving anaconda under your blanket forced me to act like that

  129. Kms2014 says:

    I say ‘sir’ because you are my elder, and that is the proper way to address one’s elders.

  130. Kms2014 says:

    You are very humble too, sir.

  131. SunShineSD says:

    I was already taller than she was (granted, she was petite), and I’m blessed with mature looks when young and young looks now getting up in age. The photo in my passport from 3 passports ago still can easily identify as me today! Now you see why I’m stuck dating 20-something year olds for nearly three decades! Not complaining! LOL.

  132. SunShineSD says:

    @Josh,
    Good try. “Fresh out college” meant bachelor’s degree. Remember, that was nearly three decades ago. Master’s degree was not necessary for teaching Junior High yet, at least not in the country that I was in. No, there was no beauty pageantry in that part of the world yet at that time.

  133. Josh says:

    *Miss (whatever town)

  134. Josh says:

    Another “gem” from SunShineSD.

    13-14 dating a 22 year-old (grad student?)!!!

    You forgot to mentin that she was Miss ?

  135. SunShineSD says:

    Different people have different preferences. Some people just enjoy boxing phantom straw men. LOL. The same person may even have different preferences during different phases of his/her life. It may shock some people that at one time I dated my Junior High school teacher, when I was her student! That was the first 22yr old that I ever dated, when I was all of 13-14! No, we did not go all the way and have sex, but plenty necking and meaningful conversation etc.. She still has a special place in my heart though we have long since lost touch with each other. It was in a different country. I was a prodigy, a debate champion (in a different language) and an athlete, and she apparently was very proud to have me as one of her first students (she was fresh out of college) and what young teen over-achieving boy doesn’t want to win the heart of his grown-up yet young and hot teacher nearly a decade his senior? LOL. She had to pay most of the bills on dates though, but I wasn’t paid by her, LOL; the reward of her company was quite enough for all the accolades that I won for her class.

    I don’t remember any SD here objecting to or getting upset at young men dating older women. Heck, I wish all the SD’s younger than myself prefer older SB’s. LOL. Nor do examples of some younger men taking on older women negate simple observation made regarding interactions between older SD and younger SB nowadays. Heck, even for the same person, just because I dated a 22yo for over a year without ever having sex with her when I was 13-14 doesn’t mean I’d wait for a year with a 22yo now that I’m 40. Nor do I think the typical 22yo SB or GF nowadays would want to wait that long, or even a couple weeks. The pace is accelerating in the last few years alone.

  136. Kms2014 says:

    “SA (or any other SD/SB dynamic) is full of big egos. SB’s (of any age) who think their shit does not stink and SD’s who are used to treating everything as a commodity. It is the big leagues of narcissism but I think it is fun for what it is.”

    Hmm, yes, think that can be true. But also, is good to play devil’s advocate sometimes. Is funny to tell men on blog how some SB’s get men who are not that much older or even a little younger to counter all their stories of young women throwing themselves at them on first dates, hehe 😉 I don’t even think I am that good looking or young looking, but was just trying to prove a point yesterday, in that it really isn’t even necessary to be a perfect 10 or in your 20’s to have an arrangement, and many of mine have been with men of similar age or younger(and some male bloggers get mad about women who are attractive to younger men, for some reason, as it goes against their limited viewpoint and perspective…). It is nice to have different viewpoints and perspectives brought to light, as there are different realities for everyone. One thing is for sure….never be boring 😉

  137. SunShineSD says:

    It may take them a while to read all the posts and notice the requests.

  138. SouthernSB says:

    @SSSD-I don’t think they sent me your e-mail. Blog gods please send SunshineSD my e-mail please.

  139. DarkHorseSD says:

    It’s amazing how SA will approve ANYTHING on the SB side…

    “Hello there! I’m Polina, dating coach and image consultant based in New York City. My dating coaching program is designed to transform your dating life by helping you become more attractive to women so that you can catch and keep the woman of your dreams. Just as a personal trainer helps to accelerate your progress in attaining your fitness goals, I will teach and support you in your pursuit to achieving the results that you most desire in your dating life. You will first begin by taking a look at where you are and the kind of woman or women you’d like to be dating. Then I will help you identify the things that are limiting your progress and help you create a Dating Success Map that lays out how you will achieve your desired results. My team and I will then help you personally remove any mentally limiting factors and transform who you are so that you are prepared and ready to date and keep the woman of your dreams. We specialize in dating/relationship coaching, hypnotherapy, image consulting and personal shopping. Throughout the experience I am by your side as a good friend helping you at every stage of dating. Your dating success NOW will not be based on chance. Get ready to get the competitive edge on your dating life as you embark on a partnership where you step up and focus on what your life deserves. I will bring my expertise and powerfully assist you. Then you can sincerely experience the powerful love energy that emerges with a fulfilled dating life. I guarantee an experience that will allow you to expand, while simultaneously being more fun than you can imagine. I don’t fantasize that the Dating Coaching partnership will be easy, but it will be amazingly gratifying! Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments and I look forward to talking with you!

  140. SouthernSB says:

    @sweetie-I live in small town Georgia, USA.

  141. SunShineSD says:

    @BlogGods

    Please give SouthernSB my email address on record, so she can contact me if she wishes.

    To the would-be fakers and scammers: what I gave blog registration was a different email address from what I posted earlier, so don’t even try to pretend to be Southern.

  142. DarkHorseSD says:

    At least That Skunk Alice lets me exploit her

  143. SunShineSD says:

    The google exec got his probable 4-digit weekend money’s worth with his druggie SB all right. That’s where I don’t want to be when I get older.

  144. SouthernSB says:

    You know what? I can’t take this!! Please stop arguing about me. Look I’m on EDT So I just got to the blog this morning and had to see THIS? It’s gotten totally out of hand!! I wasn’t begging for money or trying to start some kind of war between Kms2014 and SSSD! I don’t live on this blog, it doesn’t run my life and as such I don’t know SSSD’s e-mail from earlier posts. You know what? Maybe I would take up SSSD’s offer for the money if I thought it was genuinely from the heart but now all it is looking like is a game of one upmanship, and I don’t want to be involved. I would never ask for something when I have nothing to give in return and I have nothing to offer SSSD or Kms2014, so you both can stop talking about me now. BTW, neither of you have exploited me, because I refuse to be exploited.

  145. SunShineSD says:

    @KMS
    Thanks for your concern. Don’t worry about it. Since you are not already the mother of one of my children, you are past the age where your liking or disliking of me would be of concern to me. Nevertheless, we can have peace on very simple terms: you stop making snide remarks on me and my endeavors, and I won’t find the need to respond to such remarks. I don’t initiate personal attacks, quite unlike someone you know in the mirror.

  146. SunShineSD says:

    @Southern,

    My apologies if some of my comments came across misconstrued: never did I imply that you were on drugs (KMS was a different story as she even invited me to enjoy recreational drugs, which btw I do not at all object on moral ground, but there is practicality issue as mentioned above).

    First email, no; existing SD, yes! absolutely! I’m even willing to help ex-SB out of difficult situations more than a year and half after stopping seeing each other in dating context.

    Very good point on my need to improve screening, and more supervision on how my help is utilized. Paternity to the baby is my ticket to having influence on how the resources are to be used, and even the right to know and ask at all for that matter. I like independent-minded girls; without the paternal rights via the baby, a lot of lies can be hidden under the cover of “none of your business,” which I normally respect and expect from the woman as a matter of course (I never asked how my ex-wife spent her allowance during my marriage). I tend to “trust and verify” in my business dealings; in personal relationships I tend to be too trusting . . . and without the paternal rights, I’d be missing the “verify” link.

  147. DarkHorseSD says:

    ATM: the past couple months I’ve worked really hard at getting my shit to stink less, but nothing helped. Im going back to my old habits.

  148. DarkHorseSD says:

    It seems to me overall the changes to the SA site are intended to improve the sd quality. Are any changes intended to improve SB quality? What changes have been made for SB side?

    Winks are gone, but now if you dare look at a profile she gets an email and then sends a moronic message acknowledging you looked at her profile.

  149. FatB'StardSD says:

    SA (or any other SD/SB dynamic) is full of big egos. SB’s (of any age) who think their shit does not stink and SD’s who are used to treating everything as a commodity. It is the big leagues of narcissism but I think it is fun for what it is.

  150. Kms2014 says:

    I like, Josh, a lot, actually. I like fbeestard, too, really. You, sunshine, not so much. I do feel sorry for you, in that I think you are completely mad.

    SouthernSB am sorry I drug you into anything on blog. Is silly to argue with sunshine as he is just insane, anyways.

  151. FlyR says:

    Wow,……… the blog’s got more conflict than the middle east over the past 24 hours.

    Some simple rules

    If you(SD or SB) find sugar to be abusive, demeaning, unsatisfactory, unrewarding, degrading, disgusting, uneconomic or in any way offensive there’s two exit doors – a) exit and remain outside the sugar world together with 99% of the population or b) identify what you dislike and move to the other end of the pool.

    If you dislike old SD’s edit you profile “no old dogs, under 35 only”

    If you think your princessness is undervalued become more precious

    If you think you are being treated like an escort then decide if it is you, the SDs you attract or simply the system

    How much do you pay for each breath of air? Not much, why? because to have value there must be scarcity. If you are a 22 year old who “tolerates” men over 30 only for the financial benefit you are not scarce in most areas and therefore you are not valuable.

    Understand the concept of conquest value vs ownership value. If you are the hottest thing in a thong on the beaches of Santa Barbara 90% of the men between 18-80 would like to have sex you, but the value of sex with you declines steeply unless you have magical talents (in that case apply to the Clippers owner). Across the sand from you, excluded from your circle of 10’s, there’s probably a half dozen girls whom you see as far beneath your level of desirability. They are not as perfectly toned, tanned or dressed. They talk rubbish about biochem, physics, history, philosophy. They appeal to the successful SD who is looking for both sex and to relive the college era (or live what they missed) Because of this they have enduring value.

  152. FatB'StardSD says:

    This is SA, not a charity website.

    I logged in recently. I am not looking but there is NO shortage of desirable SB’s in my area. A legit SD would not have a problem finding an arrangement in 2-3 weeks time where I am.

  153. SunShineSD says:

    @KMS
    You are just expert at lying and making up shit, as usual; let’s go down your post sentence by sentence:

    1. No, I’m not 12. Already told you I’m 40.
    2. Not as bad as you make yourself;
    3. I did not brag about myself at all in the last few days; often self-deprecating humor at my own expense.
    4. I have helped plenty people, and still helping plenty people, in contexts quite removed from any benefit to myself. Some of them are old people not “hot” at all. Also, I object to your implication that Southern is not attractive. We simply don’t know enough about her to make such judgements.
    5. All talk no action is probably closer to describing your life. I wonder what you were up to between 3am and 6am that would have led to the paranoid attack on FBSD.
    6. You can ruin the blog, and the appeal of your own demographic, quiet effectively all by yourself, without my help. Your paranoid made-up shit thrown at me and at FBSD and at Josh in the past is not making a strong case for female SB in your own age group. It only makes the reader ponder about the issues that I realized a few years ago regarding your demographic: what has she been up to in the years since she graduated college? What damage have those years done to her? and why should I be the one picking up the pieces for her?

    Like I hinted at before, if you insist on making up things to make my endeavor unappealing, I will respond by citing facts that make your demographic unappealing. The ball is in your court.

  154. SouthernSB says:

    Kms2014-Thank you for taking up for me, I really appreciate it. SunshineSD I’m beginning to think is full of it. I wasn’t asking for the advice because I have a SD, I was asking if I should tell the SDs about my financial situation in my first mail, is all. For God’s sake I didn’t mean to start a blog war. BTW, I have never in my whole life SunshineSD taken a drug that wasn’t prescribed to me by a doctor and I would never abuse anything as I am way smarter than that. I threw out my drug addled x-boy last year and lost my car and the 2500 that it cost me to buy it for my trouble. And I have been doing my best to get myself back together since then. Kms, I don’t care if Sunshine helps me out or not, I’ve had hard times before and I’ve gotten myself out of them before and I’m sure I’ll crawl out of this again. Sunshine seems to think that the only women who need “saving” are 20 year olds who are fertile and have terrible lifestyles. What he doesn’t seem to understand is that a girl who would take 5000 dollars and spend it on drugs for her friends is never going to get her life together no matter how much time or help you give her. SunshineSD is addicted to lost causes and as long as he wants to waste his money, time and affections on train wrecks we are going to have to listen to him complain about how none of the SBs out there measure up to his standards.

  155. DarkHorseSD says:

    Wow the SBs suck within 50 miles of my summer home.

  156. Elaine says:

    Sunshine : GO FORTH AND MULTIPLY!!

    …Guess I don’t have to explain that babies don’t come from endless talking about them, do I?

  157. Kms2014 says:

    ‘So there’. How old are you, actually? 12? You really have made yourself look like a horrible person the past couple of days. You are the type of person that brags about yourself incessantly, and talks the talk of helping others, but when push comes to shove, you only help those who will benefit yourself in the process(i.e. You would only help hot ‘young’ women). I know the type, see it all the time. I do not care if you are completely insane, you are not a very kind or nice person. And some crazy people are still nice people. All talk, no action, self-centered, and you are ruining the blog with all your crazy ramblings.

  158. SunShineSD says:

    Brad is 12 years older than Angelina. So there.

  159. SunShineSD says:

    @Elaine,

    You do not know Angelina or me. Angelina plays movie roles according to scripts. Given Demi’s performance in movies, would you have guessed her real life choice for a “boy” more than a decade to her junior?

    Angelina definitely won Brad away from Jennifer by her willingness to have babies, lots of babies. So we have that common interest down pat. LOL. However, given Brad is a decade older than me, I may not be old enough for her taste. LOL!

  160. Kms2014 says:

    Hehehe!

  161. Elaine says:

    @ Sunshine

    I can understand why you don’t fancy Angelina….
    She is far too strong, intelligent and independent for your taste!
    A woman of that caliber wouldn’t want you either and laugh straight into your face about your “Middle Class Family Sect”

    And hey! Why date Sunshine if you have Brad Pitt…. LMAO :-))))

  162. frank_on_sa says:

    >Given the publicity that is likely to arise from the google exec alleged murder, I suspect things are only going to get worse.

    On the contrary. Now we SDs get to add the lure of danger to the lures of sex itself plus breaking the taboos on age differences and paying for sex. Life can be very boring when you get old. The more spice, the better.

  163. SunShineSD says:

    If Angelina were available, on SA or on conventional dating site elsewhere, I would not date her. One-night stand perhaps if I’m not in any stable relationship with someone else, but not sustained dating relationship. There was a time, in my 20-25, I might have had a crush on Demi Moore, more than a decade to my senior, but I grew out of that phase around 30, just like Ashton did around similar age. Unlike Ashton, I did not make my first 6-figure year until I was 26, so my ability to treat Demi to much of anything, even if she said yes, would have been limited. LOL. Of course, Demi played her roles in Indecent Proposal and Striptease only according to the script . . . although given her choice of scripts (she was already a mega star before these movies), it is fun to ponder about if, somewhere in the recesses of her mind, she would have dipped her toes on SA anonymously as the super star asking for a new category of $100,000 – $1,000,000 for a weekend jetting around the world, if SA had been around 15-20 years ago. hmm, them the sweet fantasies.

  164. NC Gent says:

    Hi Elaine — to answer your earlier question, I found 3 out of about 160 profiles to be attractive. Not very good odds.

    Given the publicity that is likely to arise from the google exec alleged murder, I suspect things are only going to get worse. I am so glad I have found someone. It was a very painful process that I don’t think I am willing to endure again.

  165. SunShineSD says:

    “”The choice has to do with viability with baby making, and potential effectiveness of turning around her life before too much damage is already done by stress and drugs to her brain by her 30′s.”

    Jesus Christ.”

    The 3am PDT / 6am EDT personal attack on FBSD illustrates my point in spades. I wonder how many “tokes” or drops, or what kind of PTSD, would make someone come up with that kind of paranoid personal attack with reference to purple sky between 3am and 6am. Drugs and stress from life literally reconfigure the brain over time. If intervention is to be effective, it has to take place relatively early; my last SB was nearly 25 when I met her, and the 6-7 years since her dropping out of a prestigious college in Freshman year may have had done enough damage to prevent effective intervention before I even met her.

    Neither I nor FBSD, or even Josh, has ever said that SB’s should be half the age of SD’s. None of the SD’s ever said anything about what the age norm should be. I actually never dated someone literally half my age (though that may change in a few years as I get older). My last ex-SB was 24 going on 25 (1.5months before her 25th birth day) and I was 37 when we met. “Little more than half my age” was simply an self-indulgent expression, just like someone who openly claims herself to look like the sister of her son. For what it’s worth, most people peg my age to be around 30 when they see me for the first time nowadays.

  166. Elaine says:

    @ Frank

    For a good profile it is not of such importance what YOU think, but the ones you try to reach 😉

  167. DarkHorseSD says:

    “a bunch of non-premium SDs who are like DarkHorseSD and can’t afford the $70/mo membership”

    LoL. I gave my membership money to that skunk Alice and she never calls or writes.

  168. frank_on_sa says:

    @elaine, katpaw: thanks for the feedback. I still think a shirtless photo is important, because no point wasting my time if a woman really doesn’t like body hair, which I have. So I made that photo private. The torso photo was because I was concerned about privacy. Then I realized nobody cares what I do since I’m retired. As for the length, I think both men and women are making a big mistake with short profiles. But I did take out the business about the cat and the motel and a few other unnecessary details.

    As for short attention span, I’m not sure that’s an issue here in Reno. After some investigation, it appears there’s only about 10 premium SDs, a bunch of non-premium SDs who are like DarkHorseSD and can’t afford the $70/mo membership, and 50 or so active SBs. If the SBs lack the attention span to read through 10 longish profiles, I’m not sure what to say. Of these 50 or so SBs, some appear to be young girls just fooling around and enjoying all the attention they get. The older women give off the same repellant vibes as women on matchdotcom–I can already hear the nagging and complaining. (Funny how these older women don’t recognize they’re starved for sex and then get hostile when a guy tries to initiate sex with them…) The best prospects appear to be either single mothers who could really use some extra cash, or else strippers/escorts looking for a more secure and peaceful situation, one or a small number of reliable boyfriends rather than open to the public and all the risks that entails.

  169. ChicagoSB says:

    It is not easy to find in 5 days…. Probably a one night type thing. I did find one guy in my city but he got super strong feelings for me and got scared. I made him feel super young and full of life. Hmmm still he never really showed me he cared. I’m assuming that’s his way of running away from our arrangement once he got his.

  170. DarkHorseSD says:

    Coke drinkers are finding the machine stocked with Mr. Pibb all the time.

  171. DarkHorseSD says:

    Alice: haven’t you spent your 5 days on SA yet? You must have tons of money to help out.

    I’ve spent so many 5 days, I’m flat broke. I can’t even afford the new $70/mo membership. ŁÔł

  172. aliceS says:

    Hi Elaine how are you 😉 it’s been a while. I heard you want to open your blog. Is it done yet? If so I’d like join it 😉

  173. Elaine says:

    Ehhh FB, …KMS didn’t say: “Twin sister”!
    I have seen a picture of both, and yes, she could be his (older) sister!

    And about good looking young and rich SD fancying what is called “old SB” here, yes there are. More then you would want to immagine.

    Funny BTW you mention Angelina Jolie.
    Accoording to the general opinion on SA she is too “old”.
    Of course no SD would find her attractive anymore, having passed the magical 30….Don’t think she would be worth a high allowance… ;-P

    I am 45y (and no, not even 35 looking!) and get regularly contacted by good looking, young -even < 30y- SD's.
    This probably is not the mainstream, because it seems to be the exclusive SD right to fancy younger.
    But for some (like yourself) who judges SB value strictly on youth, hotness and location, it must be hard to accept, according to your former sarcastical reactions of disbelief!

    It doesn't fit in the projection of some "SD" here, but there is more then age as reference to attractiveness or being hot.
    It is like good aged wine, but of course a coke drinker would never know.
    There is a lot of coke drinkers in the USA…
    It is common, cheap and easy to get.

    I already know you are going to make sarcastical fun of this and tell it is all "fantasy" writing.

    Well if you have any doubt, tell me to who of the bloggers I need to send prove and I will.
    Of everything I have EVER stated here!!

  174. RSD says:

    I think I should add the word “allegedly” to my post

  175. Kms2014 says:

    And, just for the record, F’beestarddd…I never said I looked 16, that is just what you inferred from my statement. My son looks much older than his age and is almost 6’3″, so once again, you just assumed and then you make your vitriol snark, well, because I guess that is the only way you seem to be able to get attention. Plus, you have no idea what I look like, and based on most of your comments your taste leaves much to be desired, anyways. Sometimes, your snark is entertaining, other times, one wonders what sort of miserable life one has to have to always be so bastardly…):

    And to be honest, is fun to shock some of the men on here, who only view arrangements as an older man, with a woman half their age, or younger. I just like to let others know that it is not always the case, and some men/SD are not looking for that. You would think I said the world was flat and the sky is no longer blue, but a shade of neon purple! Hehehe!

  176. Kms2014 says:

    @fbeestard..You really are a delusional fat bastard, hahaha! Lol! Let us see your picture, shall we 😉

  177. aliceS says:

    Woohoo Dark Horse 😉
    Hey Jamie 😉
    I went to bed and I am back. And what I see. Lol 200 comments of fighting. Southern I am sorry to hear about your situation. Hopefully it will resolve soon. Keep us updated on how you doing. I’d love to help but I’m kinda where I was before, so I can’t do too much. :/

  178. sweetie says:

    Southern, where in the US are you?

  179. DarkHorseSD says:

    I’m dragging josh and Alice into this post.

  180. DarkHorseSD says:

    SA. Tomato to chicken noodle soup in 5 days or your money back.

  181. FatB'StardSD says:

    @YKTOKM

    Your handle is as clever as your posts.

    “How about starting a support group for the tormented psyches of some of these girls after they’ve been “narrowed down”, reduced to a good fuck, then dismissed. Because yeah, that’s where every girl sets her intention everyday when she wakes up in the morning.”

    If a SB has had a good fuck then what is the problem. That what empowered SB’s are looking for when they hook up with young sexy guys IRL outside of arrangements is it not? Is the problem that you think older SD’s should not be allowed to give a SB a good fuck?

    @Kms21014

    “And lately, am asked if I am a sister or cousin to my son, by both men and women all the time(he is 16, but really tall). So, shove that up your bong hole, while you are f’ing yourself, F’beestarddd, hehehe!’

    Angelina Jolie is 39 and does not look 18. Brad Pitt does not look like he is 29 either. These people make a living off being beautiful. You do not look 16 at 37. Not even close. Blog SB’s have made many posts about the old ugly SD’s who contact them. All the newspaper articles describe old ugly SD’s at SA events. Either you have the midas touch when it comes to SD’s or you are delusional. Reading about about how old you think you look I would guess the latter is true.

  182. SunShineSD says:

    @YGTBKM
    “Yeah, girls! Education sucks, but you can suck better!!!!! Why spend that money traveling abroad when you can have sugar daddy funded meth parties, and acid revelations every weekend?! Why speak French when you can speak cock?! That IS a language, you know.”

    I gave her the money because she told me she had to pay back rent to her landlord, whom I found out a year later was also one of her drug buddies. At the time when I gave her the money, I had no idea about her wild drug parties at her own home an hour and half drive away from my home. I learned about the parties only more than a year later, when she was already accidentally pregnant from someone else, and our attempt to continue dating each other not working out, and one of her drug buddies / ex-fuck buddies disclosed to me, probably in a deliberate attempt to get me kick her out of my life (but factual nonetheless). In the absence of any family ties and not living together, I really had no control over her life at the time of the parties despite all the money that I was giving her, especially since she lied to me about the need. She got herself pregnant by someone else the same month when I closed on the house that I bought for her to move into. She would have been home-run free if she did not get high and pregnant by someone else.

    As for education, education has to give students an advantage in terms of marketable skills, at a rate faster than on the job training or apprenticeship. Traveling abroad and learning language can be worthwhile, but probably not when wrapped in a tuition and student loan package. It is not how much education a person has received, but how much marketable skills the person has learned, that matters. The failure to distinguish the two is a major part why many young graduates have to resort to sugaring to cover their student loan repayment.

  183. SunShineSD says:

    That joke would be funny if not for the fact that the ex-SB got accidentally knocked up while she was high as a kite on a combination of drugs at her friend’s place.

  184. SunShineSD says:

    I do like women who look/are young. However, if that were my only goal, it would be much cheaper to achieve than trying to raise a large number of children and support a large number of women who will no longer look young and tempting after certain number of years . . . and would not scare away some young and temping women in the ongoing process! LOL.

  185. Kms2014 says:

    Hahahaha!, hilarious….someone give SunshineSD a toke 😉

  186. SunShineSD says:

    I used to be very tolerant of pot smoking, and drug use in general, so long as it is not done on my properties. Then I realized that tolerating pot smoking in the person that I’m dating would be a mistake: because I can not have THC in my blood due to business and client security reasons, her need for pot smoking and other drugs would mean her having to share that aspect of her life with someone else. The high from THC and other substance is a much much more direct hit to the brain than the typical euphoria from, say, career success milestones, travels and gifts that I could possibly put together for her. It’s like the lab rat that gives up food and water and insists on pushing the bar to get the electrode stimulation until it dies of hunger and thirst.

  187. Kms2014 says:

    “Of course everyone should have the freedom to live their lives as they please, so stop picking on me for trying to provide 20-something years old women with better opportunities in their lives.”

    The funny thing is that you just use all your baby farm rantings as an excuse…you just like f—ing 20 something’s. It is what it is….call a spade a spade.

  188. Kms2014 says:

    It really isn’t about age to me. If the man is older, but looks young and isn’t crazy, then why not?

  189. SunShineSD says:

    Of course everyone should have the freedom to live their lives as they please, so stop picking on me for trying to provide 20-something years old women with better opportunities in their lives.

  190. SunShineSD says:

    Yes, it’s about 20-something year old girls dating 40+ year old non-fat non-old guys in athletic shape, and 30-something year old guys dating gorgeous late-30’s women. Best of both worlds.

  191. Kms2014 says:

    And what is so wrong with smoking pot, occasionally SunshineSD…might do your mood a little good, actually, hahaha!

  192. Josh says:

    @SunShineSD

    You ass-u-me too much. I don’t give a shit what other people do. Everyone should have the freedom to live their lives as they please.

  193. Kms2014 says:

    Well, not all were younger…the last one was 13 years older, and I really liked him…but he was cute and looked younger 😉 I didn’t mean to sound like a bragging twat, but women on SA should know that it isn’t always about a hot 20 year old girl with an fat old ugly rich man….When I first started this lifestyle, that is the image I had in my head, anyways, hahaha!

  194. SunShineSD says:

    @Josh,
    I’m really not jealous at all. I’m sure that since you are over 50, you probably wish guys in the 40’s would all focus on women in their late 30’s and above too!

  195. Josh says:

    @SunShineSD

    I don’t think that every woman in her high 30s looks as gorgeous and you as Kms2014 does. So the 30-something SDs are getting best of both worlds–maturity and youth.

    Why be jealous of the men who got her at any allowance level? I am not. More power to her and those who appreciate her as she is (or as they perceive her to be.)

    Again don’t be jealous of her reality with younger men…;)

  196. SunShineSD says:

    KMS, you must have me confused with someone else. Where did you see I find it crazy for men younger than you to like you? I wish all men younger than me would fall for women older than you! Honest! It would not bruise my ego the least bit . . . logically I’d be eager to pay to make that happen if that were possible! Our interest on that topic is remarkably congruent 😉

    Unfortunately, not enough pot-smoking xbox-playing young men fall that genetic dead end.

  197. Kms2014 says:

    I just think it is funny that sunshine finds it crazy that a 30 something man is a wannabe for a woman in her 30’s, like me, but it is perfectly normal for him to like women half his age? What’s the big deal, really? A few years younger than my age? Really? Lol! It really isn’t a big deal, one would think, haha!

  198. SunShineSD says:

    Yup, Josh, we want KMS suck up all the 30-something SD’s and wannabes. Clean them up and keep them all, babe!

  199. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    You go girl. Knock’em SDs breathless 😉 at your own speed of course…

  200. Josh says:

    For the record, I do believe that Kms2014 is fucking gorgeous and ageless (and is interestingly modest about her beauty).

    Any amount of allowances she receives from SDs younger or older are worth it…

    AND she does not have to worry about renting her womb for retirement planning. 😉

  201. Josh says:

    @SunShineSD

    “@KMS
    You are doing the same thing that Josh was doing half a year earlier with jj. You are exploiting Southern.”

    I guess dragging Josh into their posts is a favorite pastime by certain bloggers.

  202. Kms2014 says:

    SunshineSD–shut up 😉

  203. SunShineSD says:

    @KMS
    Hysterical ranting really doesn’t work for me or on me. Like I said, I have no ego; I’m just resilient and persistent. As some other bloggers pointed out, $60k is not an expensive car nowadays. I was lamenting the lack of discount on a specific model, not boasting the price. I ended up getting a different model with some discount anyway, and quite happy with the new purchase. I don’t get where I am by being foolish. Since you bragged about how well-established you are and how much you are paid by your men, well, let’s help southern together (if she needs it): you contribute $200, and I will match $400. That should be able to solve her problem for the month.

  204. SunShineSD says:

    @Jamie

    Thanks. I will try my best updating. I also hope some readers will think along the line and try similar enterprise on their own then share the lessons learned.

    Very good point about not harboring hatred. A lot of things in real life are less than ideal; even roses come with thorns. Some people even consider employers as exploiting employees . . . yet if all the consciencious employers exit the market place, then only the unscrupulous ones would be left hiring the workers! A market place like SA is a good thing: it helps presenting bids coming forward. The seller can always refuse any existing bid and reserve the sale to higher bid. Without the market place and if the bids were more sparse, it would just mean the seller having to sell to even lower bids. As Josh observed, women use sex to get what they want since time immemorial; I would add: rightly so! Even other great apes do that! Reproduction is not cheap and why should women alone bear all the burden. A market place helps the woman fetch the highest price / most help she can get for her labor and maintenance. OTOH, realistic price expectations from both sides are important; otherwise the market locks up (stop clearing) and we get a depression, as if the market place didn’t exist.

  205. Kms2014 says:

    “@KMS
    No, you don’t bruise my ego. I have no ego. I’m just resilient and persistent. Like I said, if southern needs our help, I’m more than willing to help. Since you brought it up, you come with the $200, and I will match $400. Fairly simple concept. Just like, if you want me to stop replying to your accusations, stop making the accusations against me first. I don’t care about ego, but I do care about setting facts straight. You know, that living encyclopedia thing. LOL.”

    Really lame. And, just an excuse. If you are willing to help, then why do you need a SB, such as myself to do it first? Why don’t you just do it? I’m not on blog constantly talking about how rich I am and all my expensive cars and baby farm plans. Lame, lame, lame. Just proves that you are not what you claim to be…and a wussy man to want a woman, who asked you first, to turn it around on me. What difference does it make if I do anything? I asked you….are you a man that you want a woman to do it, first?

  206. SunShineSD says:

    I actually prefer all SD’s and wannabes in their 20’s and 30’s to go for SB’s over 40 years old. Heck, I wish all men in their 20’s and 30’s would spend all their time chasing women over 40 or 35. For obvious reason!

  207. SunShineSD says:

    @KMS
    No, you don’t bruise my ego. I have no ego. I’m just resilient and persistent. Like I said, if southern needs our help, I’m more than willing to help. Since you brought it up, you come with the $200, and I will match $400. Fairly simple concept. Just like, if you want me to stop replying to your accusations, stop making the accusations against me first. I don’t care about ego, but I do care about setting facts straight. You know, that living encyclopedia thing. LOL.

  208. Kms2014 says:

    @Jaime…they are not all 9 years younger, but almost all have been at least two years younger. If you like, you can email me at terrahleigh2014 at gmail and can give you more details. It really just has worked out that way….didn’t go out purposefully to get younger. It’s funny because the men get so mad on here, when you tell them. It turns the tables on them a bit, hehe 😉

  209. SunShineSD says:

    @KMS,

    It would be quite easy for you if you really want to be left alone: leave me alone. You don’t get to initiate the fight then tell others to shut up. I don’t mind helping southern if she needs it; since you brought it up, and you claim to be doing so well, hmm, well established, why don’t you contribute $200 like I suggested and I will match it twice over.

  210. Kms2014 says:

    Wow, you really have your ego bruised by me. Go away….I bet you aren’t even who you claim to be as you can’t even help a women with food. You really aren’t just crazy and delusional but mean as well. Seriously, leave me be. Thank you.

  211. JamieSB says:

    @AliceS: welcome back!
    Is it you in the pics? Wow !!! Smoking hot!!!
    @ygtbk: wow why so much hate for SA?
    I agree on heaps unreal marketing scheme by SA but wow that’s still a lot of hate? Maybe don’t join the site and walk away? I’m sure hatred is not healthy?
    I myself find my SD from some other website! We never discuss allowance and such but he has been extremely generous. Genuine SDs does exist. Just be patient!!
    @SSSD: I think by now all of us follow SA blog are aware of your baby making theory!
    Good luck with that :) hope it works. I might be the only one who are genuinely interested but keep us update on that?
    @ Kms: I find lots of your comments interesting and while I’m sure that you are a genuine person and not to offend you but I find it hard to believe that 70% of your SDs are younger than you. Just curious questions: how many SDs have you got? How long do your arrangements normally last? And how long have you been a SB?
    Kudos to you otherwise!
    @Katpaw: hello :))
    Are you in NY yet miss?
    Oh and where is Richard? Haha still have the crush for him! He sounds oh so sexy!!

  212. SunShineSD says:

    “My god, will you not let that go! I never said $3,600 a weekend was a norm as most SB’s, or SBs like me are not paid by weekend rates.”

    You claimed $3600 was not unusual for a weekend for pro’s.

    “It isn’t that rare, even according to you, as you said you gave that all the time ;)”

    Please provide the citation where I said I gave $3600/wknd all the time. I never said that. I gave more than that only on two occasions, neither were payment for the weekend per se but paying exigency that the ex-SB requested. I never paid any pro for any weekend, or any pro at all.

    “However, have been given that sum, only much larger, before I ever met someone. Have been given things that are valued at more than that, as a gift….and before any intimacy, so not all SDs are looking for pay for play, or pay for baby farm play.”

    Good for you. Perhaps you can help Southern out of your, hmm, earnings.

    “I’m going back to the please, SunshineSD…don’t address me anymore and I won’t address you. You really just get on my nerves, to be honest, and your posts are boring as h***.”

    No, you don’t get to make a bunch of shit, and shit on my plan and hope for quietness. If the management decide to delete this blog article too and shut down the blog altogether due to your lies and ankle-biting, so be it.

  213. Kms2014 says:

    Really? You don’t get involved off blog with anyone? And…you want a SB to give money, so that you don’t have to say you don’t want to? Wow…….

    And, I’m not trying to exploit anyone. You are the one always preaching about saving women from going hungry and poverty. Get over yourself. Stop addressing me, and if you actually are a kind human or this ‘saviour’ to womankind, why don’t you actually do something, instead of always posting your nonsensical drivel ramblings and take action. That is all. Now, please, really…leave me alone.

  214. SunShineSD says:

    @KMS
    You are doing the same thing that Josh was doing half a year earlier with jj. You are exploiting Southern.

    I avoid real life involvement with blog personalities for obvious reason: so we can have honest discussions instead of manipulations.

    If Southern is really in trouble and need our help, she already has my throw-away email address from earlier posts. How about let’s do this: since you claim to be well-established yourself, why don’t you send me or her $200, and I will match $400 after that $200 is received, then her food budget for the month is solved. This should be the last time any of us on the blog get involved with real life money transfers among blog personalities.

  215. “Will the ladies getting $5000 per month, please stand up?
    [crickets]”

    The most in a month was actually over $7000. You do realize, even at $5000/mo, heck, even $7000/mo, that’s still a lot less than KMS’ $3600/wknd “norm.”

    Sunshine, I said lad[ies]…not lad[y]. Your sample size isn’t large enough, my friend.

  216. Kms2014 says:

    My god, will you not let that go! I never said $3,600 a weekend was a norm as most SB’s, or SBs like me are not paid by weekend rates. It isn’t that rare, even according to you, as you said you gave that all the time ;)However, have been given that sum, only much larger, before I ever met someone. Have been given things that are valued at more than that, as a gift….and before any intimacy, so not all SDs are looking for pay for play, or pay for baby farm play.

    I’m going back to the please, SunshineSD…don’t address me anymore and I won’t address you. You really just get on my nerves, to be honest, and your posts are boring as h***.

  217. SunShineSD says:

    “he thinks all women are destined for drugs and poverty unless he swoops in and save the day”

    You are once again twisting. Which part of my earlier statement “Those who can manage their own lives already obviously do not need help” don’t you understand?

  218. SunShineSD says:

    Yes, you were projecting: you accused me of telling Southern to keep her situation off the blog. I never did that.

  219. Kms2014 says:

    “July 9, 2014 at 6:21 pm
    “BTW, my preference for women in their 20′s has nothing to do with ego. I never show off “arm candies.” The choice has to do with viability with baby making, and potential effectiveness of turning around her life before too much damage is already done by stress and drugs to her brain by her 30′s.”

    Jesus Christ.”

    @ygbkm….don’t even try to understand…he thinks all women are destined for drugs and poverty unless he swoops in and save the day. Of course, when someone we all kind of know on blog really does need help, he doesn’t really follow through. Always in theory…never in practice 😉

  220. SunShineSD says:

    “Will the ladies getting $5000 per month, please stand up?
    [crickets]”

    The most in a month was actually over $7000. You do realize, even at $5000/mo, heck, even $7000/mo, that’s still a lot less than KMS’ $3600/wknd “norm.”

  221. Kms2014 says:

    Projecting? Is asking you to help someone in need, as you always claim you want to do…I’m sorry, ‘save’ women…is that projecting? You need to go to Wikipedia again because that is straight out asking you to do what you always claim you want to do. Or, are women not worth helping or saving unless they are perfect candidates for your baby project, in theory? If you don’t want to help, then just say you don’t…don’t turn it around on me.

  222. SunShineSD says:

    @KMS dear, stop projecting. I did not at all tell Southern to keep her situation away from the blog. She asked if she should disclose the info to a potential SD that she was in contact with in her life, so my advice, like everyone else’ so far, was not a good idea. If I knew her in real life as acquaintance before the crisis, I’d certainly help. I continued to help my ex-SB on a humanitarian level for nearly a year and half now after we stopped sleeping with each other; I’m still taking care of her cats to this day. However, if she were to ask me if it’s a good idea to disclose some of her own difficult predicament to a brand new potential SD, I’d say no (but should have honest disclosure after meeting in person and building a relationship for a few weeks).

  223. “BTW, my preference for women in their 20′s has nothing to do with ego. I never show off “arm candies.” The choice has to do with viability with baby making, and potential effectiveness of turning around her life before too much damage is already done by stress and drugs to her brain by her 30′s.”

    Jesus Christ.

  224. Kms2014 says:

    Haha, ygbkm…oh wow, that was good. Please don’t leave blog…although, can understand why many women leave.

  225. @sunshine re

    ““Don’t you think there is another world out there that you do not dabble in? Where, the women don’t need to be saved by you, and are very established on their own, speaking more than three languages, oftentimes, who are not so egotistical to only do for some silly self esteem boost? These women already have a good regard for themselves and their self esteem.”

    Those are the kind of poisonous words that send young girls up the shits creek without a peddle: the time and resources spent on learning three languages that essentially translates to completely unmarketable skills (speaking as someone who speaks 4 languages due to life experience living abroad) is probably worse than blowing a weekend and a few thousand dollars on a drug party.”‘

    Yeah, girls! Education sucks, but you can suck better!!!!! Why spend that money traveling abroad when you can have sugar daddy funded meth parties, and acid revelations every weekend?! Why speak French when you can speak cock?! That IS a language, you know.

  226. @Sunshine

    “Rome wasn’t built in one day. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. $5000/month this. Bullshit that. Irrational thoughts in between.” <–paraphrased

    Will the ladies getting $5000 per month, please stand up?

    [crickets]

  227. SunShineSD says:

    BTW, my preference for women in their 20’s has nothing to do with ego. I never show off “arm candies.” The choice has to do with viability with baby making, and potential effectiveness of turning around her life before too much damage is already done by stress and drugs to her brain by her 30’s.

  228. Kms2014 says:

    Actually, I will address you one more time, SunshineSD…for all your talk of wanting to help save women and take care of them, then why don’t you help out SouthernSB some, as she really does need help this month. What was your response to her? Oh yes, keep that with her friends and family….why don’t you keep your crazy baby farm plan with your friends and family as well, or, put your money where your mouth is, so to speak, and help someone that we all sort of know on blog a little?

    And forgive me everyone, but I no longer have a filter on and just say what I think. As ygbkm put it so eloquently, this blog is filled with many horrible selfish people(and I think she meant men, to be honest). I do not put it as kindly, am afraid.

  229. SunShineSD says:

    @KMS
    My post at 5:53pm was in response to yougottabekiddingme post at 5:04pm. I don’t think there was “KMS” anywhere in my post. Any quotation in my post was quoting from her post.

  230. Kms2014 says:

    And SunshineSD, I have asked nicely but will ask again that you please just leave me out of your crazy arguments and weird philosophies on women, and babies. I am not interested in debating with you, or even being included in your rude responses, as it is obvious have bruised your ego or something, but really is getting old. Thanks again!

  231. Kms2014 says:

    And just for the record…I am 37, not 35, and average age of past SDs is usually 2-4 years younger, although, one was 9 years younger, hehe! And lately, am asked if I am a sister or cousin to my son, by both men and women all the time(he is 16, but really tall). So, shove that up your bong hole, while you are f’ing yourself, F’beestarddd, hehehe!

    Girls, if you want a younger man…go and get yourself a younger, more virile SD. It doesn’t have to be some fat, older, man going through a mid-life crisis. Some men actually prefer closer to their age…trust me on that. Sure, there are the types that want half their age for ego’s sake, or have that preference, but just skip them and move on. And, what is better than a woman, who looks young but has sex like a 37 year old!! Hehe!

  232. SunShineSD says:

    Rome is not built in one day. Influencing someone and turning their lives around for the better can only take place one step at a time. What makes any one think a lecture on thrifty living by anyone would quickly turn bad habits around, where $5000/mo incentive on top of lectures and living examples of good money management couldn’t? People have personal pride, and they don’t want to be lectured to. In fact, our educational system has infused young girls with so much personal pride that she would actively avoid wannabe lecturers but pursue losers that make her feel better. the most productive use she could find for $5000/mo, plus extra when requested, was buying drugs for her friends so she could feel like she was the boss at the party. LOL. This is what new-age girl-pride and girl-leadership education have produced on the street level: boys that want to be pimps, and girls that want to earn the most the quickest anyway possible so she can “generous”/magnanimous to her friends.

    “Don’t you think there is another world out there that you do not dabble in? Where, the women don’t need to be saved by you, and are very established on their own, speaking more than three languages, oftentimes, who are not so egotistical to only do for some silly self esteem boost? These women already have a good regard for themselves and their self esteem.”

    Those are the kind of poisonous words that send young girls up the shits creek without a peddle: the time and resources spent on learning three languages that essentially translates to completely unmarketable skills (speaking as someone who speaks 4 languages due to life experience living abroad) is probably worse than blowing a weekend and a few thousand dollars on a drug party. If she is “very established” on her own, why is she seeking and taking money from SD’s? older or younger? Unrealistic pride speech doesn’t help anyone, but only breed a rush mentality; see previous paragraph.

    I have learned over the years that things are easier said than done. Success is achieved one small step at a time. In order to turn someone’s life around and bring them back on track, the process is going to take a lot of time; every step of the way some drug dealer or pot-smoking xbox-playing loser is going to be more appealing than you are just like sitcoms filled with losers have much bigger audience than documentaries on famous entrepreneurs.

    There is no boot camp solution to this problem. If you want to make a difference, you just have to remain engaged and provide the right incentives and influence every step of the way . . . and hope for the best. Having a baby does make women behave more responsibly, and a co-incidental hospital stay would enforce against bad habits like heavy smoking even more directly . . . but so long as you are not the father of the baby, there is no way to prevent the pot-smoking xbox-playing baby daddy from reintroducing smoking and pot to her after the hospital stay. Such is life. Did I mention, statistically she will have two babies in her life anyway? Yes, like you said, babies that will grow up in the same world/society along with your own children.

    We can only help and enlighten one person at a time. Those who can manage their own lives already obviously do not need help.

  233. Kms2014 says:

    “I think that you and the men on the blog like you…should bend over, stick your own d*cks in your own a$$e$, and then let us all know–not only how much you paid yourself–but which of you enjoyed the sex more…the you doing the f*cking, or the you being f*cked. There’s a sexercise workout for ya.”

    Hehe, good one, but that would be dependent on fbeestard’s dick being long enough! Which, is doubtful. Hehe! 😉 I just ignore him and the men like him on blog as they have no idea, and are projecting with their venom and such, as I bruise their egos and shatter their little world, since I get younger SDs and it makes them mad, since I shatter their little minds and little dicks’s world! Hehe, and assure you my SD are pretty attractive as a few people on blog have seen what my last Sd looked like. ;-p

    Ygbkm…please, feel free to email me anytime. It is terrahleigh2014 at gmail dot com

  234. @FatBstard re

    “@Kms2014

    “Haha, and I was being generous…most of them are 2-4 years younger. So, would calculate that 70% have been younger”

    A rich 30 year old SD who pays a 35 year old SB to date and take her time with intimacy is extremely ugly and/or has the personality of a piece of furniture. You could argue that all SD’s fit this description but these young SD’s you go out with definitely do (assuming what you say is true in the first place).”

    I think that you and the men on the blog like you…should bend over, stick your own d*cks in your own a$$e$, and then let us all know–not only how much you paid yourself–but which of you enjoyed the sex more…the you doing the f*cking, or the you being f*cked. There’s a sexercise workout for ya.

  235. Regarding the vanishing sexercise post…

    “I wondered that as well. Suppose, the article might have been taboo or something?”

    Ah, censorship. Really, SA? You just winked away an entire thread? Are the candid opinions of your members no good for your product? No good for mainstreaming “mutually beneficial arrangements” to horny old flaccid men, 5-figure cavemen, 6-figure Scrooges, and unsuspecting “young college co-eds”?

    How about starting a support group for the tormented psyches of some of these girls after they’ve been “narrowed down”, reduced to a good fuck, then dismissed. Because yeah, that’s where every girl sets her intention everyday when she wakes up in the morning. How about running an article on thrifty living, or moderate, inexpensive extravagance so that your targeted co-ed can feel more empowered with providing some essentials for herself, and so that some of these cheap assed men can save money in other ways instead of trying to discount a girl’s worth through her vagina. How about running an article on how to be a decent human being for some of the Neanderthals running around this zoo?

    I’ll have you know that I chose “yougottabekiddingme” as my username because I was really shocked, flabbergasted by the rampant ignorance and oblivion evidenced in this blog. This place is like The Jerry Springer Show. Actually, I’m giving it too much credit…I think Id rather see fingernails and kegel balls flying. This place is the allegory of the cave, and you, SA, are the puppeteers perpetuating systematic oppression and dependency. The disclaimer that prostitution is unwelcome here is a crock full of twice-baked bullshit. Clearly your members want pay-for-sex arrangements, and clearly the market is there to support the demand. So yes, why not call it what it is. Take the finest of decal matter, sprinkle it with raw cane sugar, torch it into a brûlée, drizzle it with a raspberry cognac reduction, and top it with a mint. It’s still shit, and I’m still not fucking eat it, so stop trying to feed it to me. In fact, please pardon me while I vomit…this place has literally made me sick. Surely though, you have a way to turn vomit into wine.

    Then too, it’s probably all Grumpy Josh’s fault for throwing whorebombs.

    That said…

    I haven’t had a chance to respond to some of the newly posted comments on other threads. Honestly had to take a nap after being exhausted by some of the last I read. I’ll post when I get a chance, if I don’t get “winked” off the blog.

    @Kms Thank you for your kind words the other day. You seem to be an exception to the status qou, and I find that refreshing. I appreciate your thoughtful responses as well. Like this one…
    “Don’t you think there is another world out there that you do not dabble in? Where, the women don’t need to be saved by you, and are very established on their own, speaking more than three languages, oftentimes, who are not so egotistical to only do for some silly self esteem boost? These women already have a good regard for themselves and their self esteem.”

    I admire that.

    I really hope that each of you will consider–not just in sugar, but in life in general–that every person with whom you interact, will go on to interact with many people in many contexts. With each encounter–specifically intimate encounters (intimate in the sense of sharing oneself in any context)–is an equal opportunity to leave someone better or worse off. These are the same people who share the world you live in…the same world your children have to grow up in.

  236. FatB'StardSD says:

    @KatPaw

    “@gtt_envy
    I’m not sure I have the words to describe how disturbing I find this.. :-(”

    How tragic that a guy is enjoying sex. Obviously a horrible person. He should be paying these girls because…well just because they give him the time of day!

    @Kms2014

    “Haha, and I was being generous…most of them are 2-4 years younger. So, would calculate that 70% have been younger”

    A rich 30 year old SD who pays a 35 year old SB to date and take her time with intimacy is extremely ugly and/or has the personality of a piece of furniture. You could argue that all SD’s fit this description but these young SD’s you go out with definitely do (assuming what you say is true in the first place).

  237. SouthernSB says:

    Thanks for the advice everyone, of course you are all right. I will have to swallow my pride and make a trip to my local food bank. I hate it though because I got so behind due to the fact that I had to go to the hospital and just got so behind in my bills. One month of late fees back in February and all crap hits the fan. Things won’t be as bad next month but this month…oh brother .

  238. aliceS says:

    no :) no one kidnapped me yet. i was busy with my home renovations :) hows all doing

  239. Eloquence says:

    even for me… I am baffled…

  240. Eloquence says:

    lol – I am being giving money by my gay friend to take him to church than to go on a date…. lmao.. this totally takes the cake!

  241. D says:

    – 5 days to get to an arrangement is not accurate, who ever makes up that stuff is cherry picking some stat.

    – $3000 month, that is little better then $50,000 a year income. I’ve dug into income stats for some areas and there are VERY few who can afford to spend that much. Even fewer will be on this site… Based just on income. Take Hamilton County Indiana – there are only about 650 non-married males who have the income to spend $3000 a month freely. In total (includes the 650) about 1200 can afford $2000 monthly, about 3400 can spend $1000. Large number of those guys will have girl friends and won’t be here. Others will have a McManson or house or Ex to support preventing them from being able to spend freely. Finally a VERY small fraction will be on this site…

    – 1 to 8 ratio of women to men, another fudged stat, don’t know just how, seems way off…

  242. Kms2014 says:

    Alice, there you are…I wondered if an Arab had kidnapped you over there 😉

  243. aliceS says:

    Hi all :) I am back. but I must admit I didnt catch up with any comments :)

  244. Kms2014 says:

    I met a man, who lied about his age once…said he was 50, but he was really older…he finally admitted to being almost 62. I just couldn’t do it…I do not want some man who could ‘technically’ be my dad. Of course, some women love older men, and I get it…but I just can’t do that much older, or someone 20 years plus. My favourite age is a few years younger than me, and it works out well, since there are a ton of SD’s, in their 30’s who prefer women who look a lot younger than them, but act mature (:

  245. Kms2014 says:

    @yougottabe….I wondered that as well. Suppose, the article might have been taboo or something? Wouldn’t know as I rarely bother to read their bad articles…hehe 😉

  246. Kms2014 says:

    Haha, and I was being generous…most of them are 2-4 years younger. So, would calculate that 70% have been younger…so, more than norm than exception, in my case. Not trying to brag, but I look much younger than my age, so not really that unusual to be honest. And, the relationships are no different to the ones I have had with a couple who were older. Haven’t gone any older than 13 years my senior, and that is only because he looked really young 😉

  247. SunShineSD says:

    To each his/her own, of course.

  248. SunShineSD says:

    correction: Very unusual “sugardaddies” for very UNusual “sugarbabies,” to say the least.

  249. SunShineSD says:

    LOL. Those guys are not 19. They may be looking for breast milk as reward when they bring “good grades” home to “mommy.” Very unusual “sugardaddies” for very usual “sugarbabies,” to say the least.

  250. Anyone know what happened to the sexercise post? I don’t see it.

  251. Kms2014 says:

    Haha, I would say, 50% of my sugar daddies have been younger than me! and they are the ones staring intently into my eyes telling me there is no immediate rush! as they are not 19, lol!

  252. Eloquence says:

    Truly, I am attractive, tan, blonde with Green eyes and far from vanilla. However, I am one of the women whom one would never suspect that would be an ideal candidate due to nerdiness on-set of a meet. Which makes the experience quite entertaining to say the least and even more vivacious and raw upon the seductive encounter. One must never judge a book by her cover until you can undress her slowly on your own!

  253. Eloquence says:

    But I want to get Laid! lmfao — I have to say it just because of the obvious posts!

  254. SunShineSD says:

    @Southern
    Sorry to hear your predicament. Agree with the other posters that a problem like that is best kept among known friends and family, who may be willing to extend a helping hand. To a stranger, better than 50/50 chance would lead to avoidance; the ones attracted to it may be looking for an exceptionally good deal . . . which is fine for liquidation of physical assets like office equipment, even buildings and land, but may not be ideal for what’s involved here.

    There are lots of conventional help from community service outlets. Glad to see you are taking it optimistically; there are still 3 weeks left in the month.

  255. SunShineSD says:

    @jj
    What’s your answer to “But I want to!” from a smart and beautiful girl little more than half your age staring intently into your face after you tell her you are not expecting intimacy on first date. It’s almost like a challenge, the rebuffing of which may well get you “friend-zoned” forever. We are not exactly here to adopt daughters, are we?

    The current 20’s generation raised on iPods and internet are much more used to instant gratification than how we were raised. Of course, fierce competition probably has something to do with it too, and she just wants to make her case in the strongest possible way while she has your full attention at meeting in person. Perhaps she also knows that, unlike the 20-something guys notching their bed posts, we older gents are more sentimental: “hit it and take care of it” has replaced “hit it and quit it.”

  256. MissMendez says:

    Good idea removing the wink 😉
    Makes it all much more personal.

  257. MagicCitySB says:

    @SouthernSB

    You’re going to be just fine! Like anything else in life, if you put yourself out there more, you will get more responses. Once you’ve done that, you can weed out the bad apples and move on to figuring out which guy would be your ideal SD. This is my first time back in two years, as I jus ended an arrangement. It took me three months to find the right one, but patience definitely pays off! I have some friends that are new to the site and although they’re meeting people, they’ve definitely had to kiss a few frogs.

    Kms2014 has never spoken truer words, hard times do fall on us all and there’s nothing wrong with asking for help from your community, friends, or family if you need it. Best of luck in your search :)

  258. Kms2014 says:

    “Being “ole school” I just cannot hit it and git in my sugar search. I know I’m risking the wrath of some, one in particular, but for me it is the true sugar experience that matters.”

    I wait awhile, if I do get intimate with a SD…just like in a regular relationship. I’m not trying to ‘prove’ anything and most of the good ones wanted to go at my pace, or a natural pace, anyways. This might be rare, or maybe I am lucky, but do not view it as only about sex.

    Southern, is there a local food bank near you? Used to do volunteer work at one, many years ago, and all kinds of people would come in. Most, you wouldn’t really think…It isn’t something anyone wants to do, really, but hard times happen to us all at some point.

  259. SouthernSB says:

    Oh well, looks like I’ll just have to deal with it this month. One good thing about it though, at least I’ll lose weight. :)

  260. Jj says:

    Being “ole school” I just cannot hit it and git in my sugar search. I know I’m risking the wrath of some, one in particular, but for me it is the true sugar experience that matters.

  261. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB

    That may just fall on deafs ears. :(

    Aside from Brandon’s marketing-speak, such qualifications have better marketplaces outside of SA.

  262. SouthernSB says:

    Should I tell SDs that show an interest in me that I am down to having exactly .35 cents in my bank acct. and I am down to eating tomato soup for lunch for the rest of the month despite the fact that I am intelligent, well-spoken and well-read. :(

  263. Josh says:

    @Elaine says:

    “Well, it is not that difficult to get laid in exchange for money Eloquence… Millions of men all over the world are doing that, every single day!”

    Conversely,

    Well, it is not that difficult to use sex to get what they want Eloquence… Millions of women all over the world are doing that, every single day! …starting from higher grades to higher salaries to higher allowances to expensive trinkets…and even 50% of a man’s net worth in some cases. 😉

  264. SunShineSD says:

    Each person has an internal value system. Most men who are not pot-smoking xbox-playing losers unable to afford a tin pot to pee in probably has a 3-digit number for recreational sex. Some men have the means for an occasional lower-4-digit for a weekend. Others prefer a 5-digit, 6-digit, or even 7-digit number for what may come out of a sexual/reproductive liaison (let’s call it “goal seeking”). Speaking as a man who speaks 4 languages, I don’t think many men assign any value to conversing with with a woman who speaks 3 languages just for the conversation itself. Mind games designed to control, rinse and con the man probably have negative value, for most men.

  265. SunShineSD says:

    *judge; darn auto-correction

  266. Nick says:

    This is beyond true. I get about 80 emails a day from women. Its really hard to find interest in a girl sending a wink or asking me to “proof” to her something. Theres just no time for it.

  267. SunShineSD says:

    “What would the sugar daddies on blog have to say, if one of us ‘bragged’ about getting a large sum of money, per 4 first dates, without so much as a peck on the cheek, then ran off to never speak to the SD again, until we narrowed down to 2 😉 yes, exactly…..”

    Not at all comparable. I don’t think Gtt is getting it for free. What he is doing may not be my personal cup of tea, but if both he and his dates are happy about the exchange and speed of progress in their relationships, who are we to argue otherwise and judgement them?

  268. Spontaneous Little Islander says:

    Okay. I would really like to know what is it that you SB’s are doing to receive 200 emails in a week. I live in Central Florida and I have a college SB account. I have been on here for about a year or so on and off and I have had 1 email lol. What am I doing wrong here? I even get a little bold and take initiative and write emails to men that strike up my interest. And I am always read, but ignored. Honestly, what is the secret here?

  269. Eloquence says:

    LOL – I am working on a profile dear, I am working on it.

  270. Elaine says:

    Well, it is not that difficult to get laid in exchange for money Eloquence…
    Millions of men all over the world are doing that, every single day!

  271. Eloquence says:

    @ GTT

    Congrats! At least someone on here is getting laid! lol

  272. Kms2014 says:

    The picture of girl with black hair at heading of article looks like Kristen Ritter….and she is so pretty, in my opinion (:

  273. Kms2014 says:

    Perused*

  274. Kms2014 says:

    @katpaw, like I said before…reminds me of something else 😉 And, that is not sugar dating….I think he mentioned before how he pursued though escorts sites before, so…..

    What would the sugar daddies on blog have to say, if one of us ‘bragged’ about getting a large sum of money, per 4 first dates, without so much as a peck on the cheek, then ran off to never speak to the SD again, until we narrowed down to 2 😉 yes, exactly…..

  275. KatPaw says:

    @gtt_envy

    I’m not sure I have the words to describe how disturbing I find this.. :-(

  276. KatPaw says:

    @Frank

    There is too much rambling on in your profile.. Just a bit of unnecessary information… :)

  277. gtt_envy says:

    Another date last night fun fun fun!! So, out of the last 4 dates all being sexual…….I’ve narrowed it down to 2 weeeeeeee 😉

    Best of luck to all!!

  278. Elaine says:

    @ Frank

    I am not local, but I hope my comments will be helpfull anyway.

    First, I would skip all the foto’s of your naked torso.
    Most women just don’t find that attractive!
    And use a face picture as main profile photo.

    Since you describe how physically active you are, together with the description “athletic” it must be enough at this stage.
    Leave something to the fantasy.
    Eventually add a (dressed) foto on your bike or during another activity.

    Furthermore I think your profile is too long, the cat part for example I would skip, not because it is not interesting, but leave something to talk about for the first meeting. Most readers have a very short attention span.
    And most SB’s are not looking for a 24/7 relationship anyway!
    Don’t even know if I would mention the “motel” housing, it gives me an unwanted image…
    But maybe because I have seen too many bad road movies, haha

    And delete one of the 2 “WARNING” messages, it makes your text even look longer at first sight.

    As I think you are not really a “standard” daddy, it might take you some time to find your right match, but hey! with a little patience and active searching from your side I am sure you will find her!

    Succes!

  279. Elle says:

    I’m so happy the wink is gone! I normally would skip over or delete those wink messages anyway. And I love the new user interface. Props to the SA design/engineering team!
    xox
    http://thesugarbabydiary.wordpress.com

  280. Sugarlumps says:

    1:8 ratio? Well, that’s some kind of sugar-daddy then! Definitely not my game.

    For me (in Western Canada), it is kinda like grad school. 1 of 5 contacts reply. Of those maybe another 1 of 5 actually message something of interest. Of those I message with, perhaps half are real people who are interested in meeting. Of the persons I meet, well, I just choose one person, but usually it takes a couple of dates to figure out if that’s someone I’m really interested in long term or not.

    It can all start with a wink. I guess in the future I’ll just ‘favorite’ people instead.

  281. Drew says:

    Great to have it gone… Even a short message from a SB can be great!

  282. NoobSD says:

    Haven’t posted in a while. Many new names on the blog … Deactivated my account and now debating whether I should reactivate it …

  283. Moe El says:

    In real life winks are very appealing to me—probably why I dont pay attention to me. I ratio of 8 to 1 is very questionable.

  284. Midwest sugar daddy says:

    The 8 to 1 ratio seems high. In my area, I calculated a 4 to one ratio. My first arrangement took a month. My new one also took over a month. I was looking for an attractive 22- 30 year old with a great body for a solid allowance. This proved to be a challenge. It took at least 30 messages to potential sugar babies each time. The response rate was about 50%. I also needed to meet at least 5 girls face to face prior to getting one that met my standards.

  285. Sugarlumps says:

    I for one made use of the wink in a reasoned way. I would use it to indicate interest, and gauge responses to the wink as a level of interest for a potential SB. A profile view, a wink back, or even a short message was enough to know that someone had at least responded. Winks are useful if one is busy, at work, only on his/her phone.

    Also, it was an easy way for me to see who I had already contacted (or at least contacted by wink) when going through the list.

    Overall, I’d say the re-design is positive. I like the cleaner look and the interface will take take some time to get used to, but I think it’s going to be alright. I do wish that the designer had provided more ‘dashboard’ options. Often when I log in I’m presented with featured members from Estonia or Britain or North Carolina — which is sortof uninteresting to me. I’d like to have a way to set my dashboard to only be presented with people I might actually be interested in.

    And yeah… 5 days for a hookup seems about right… getting the right connection though takes a lot longer than that. Still lookin’ :)

  286. Elaine says:

    Haha, meant drop dead gorgeous of course!

  287. Elaine says:

    @ NC gent,

    Well, to be honest, I dont believe this is only in your area….

    And hey, “attractive” should be one of the main factors in this, not even talking drop death serious, but attractive is the least for being an SB, no?

    SA seems to find quantity more important as quality, and this is just a marketing strategy to attract new SD in my opinion.
    Which is fine, after all it IS a strategy …

    Just for the record, out of how many profiles in your area have you filtered those 3 serious pots?

  288. BrownSUgar says:

    @NC Gent

    200 emails in one week? Wow, what am I doing wrong? I live in NC and my inbox is empty. I have been on this site for a month now, and only received 20 messages. Two of them I had to initiate.

  289. Milena says:

    I liked the idea of winks. For me it was not necessarily act of laziness, but rather whenever I was not 100% positive if I am interested in particular person, I would just wink and wait if he takes it further. I guess, at the end it did come down to laziness, but also saved tons of time. Now everyone is just going to copy/paste prewritten messages:)

  290. Milena says:

    NC Gent,
    where do you live?!)))) I am moving there!))
    JK;)

  291. NC Gent says:

    *there are 3*

  292. NC Gent says:

    Elaine — you are right, at least in my area, especially if you use the “attractive” constraint. I have a non-premium account, and there is 3 profiles within a 100 mile radius of me that I would even consider. I have talked to all three of those women in the past. My SB said she had over 200 emails in her first week on the site. I think the 8 SB to 1 SD might hold in the larger metropolitan areas, but certainly not in my area.

  293. Elaine says:

    @ Average arrangement in 5 days?…..
    must have been the same fantasywriter who stated 8 SB for 1 SD…..

    THAT is what I would call ” wishfull thinking”!

    Ever made a search and checked how many abandoned profiles appear?
    Then take away the pro’s that shouldn’t even be here, the girls who just made a profile for fun and see what happens and never serious to meet, the scammers, rinsers, desperate, clueless and the unattractive…..

    8 SB for every 1 SD?? Really? 😉

  294. Eloquence says:

    ok – self pitty time over… duh donna duh! Charge…and im off! worse case scenario… I will go to the bathroom and excuse myself and not come back..lol.. no, I find that rude and inappropriate upon any encounter…

  295. Eloquence says:

    In retrospect… I simply thought SA was where if there wasn’t honesty anywhere else in a relationship basis, there would be one here or magor enticement of a wordsmith to light my engines and alas, Its all about presentation, games, enticement, allure and presentation again for headgames to play at the dinner table and footsie and lapsie at the same time.. Under the right accompaniment, it never goes wrong.

  296. SouthernSB says:

    If they find an arrangement in five days why have I been here for a month?

  297. Sataney Shibari says:

    @ NC Gent

    The right one acknowledges you as Superior in minutes. The fact it takes him a year to wire you a nice chunk of change is semantics. The fact he belongs to you forever is priceless.

    Leo men. You are the music.

  298. frank_on_sa says:

    I was wondering if some SBs could give some feedback on SD profile 2190048. Not counting out-of-area SBs (which I specifically said I wasn’t interested in), I’m not getting many emails.

    I suppose I could lie about my income, but then it doesn’t really make sense to be offering $3000/mo if I have an enormous income. For those of you from places like NYC and LA, please understand that $10/hour is good money in Reno. Personally, I think $3000/mo tax-free is a LOT. Visit globalrichlist.com to get an idea of where $36,000 puts a person in the global income hierarchy. If I have to go over $3000/mo, it makes sense to just set up some mistresses in Ukraine and Columbia and elsewhere.

    There is also the issue of my photos. I’ve heard rumors that a lot of older men lie about being athletic when they aren’t, so I put those shirtless photos up to make it clear I’m telling the truth. Then I read that women are turned off by shirtless photos, so I don’t know what to think.

  299. SouthernSB says:

    Do these members write every member who views them?

  300. NC Gent says:

    “The average member finds an arrangement in 5 days, so we can’t have users wasting your time.”

    Really? An arrangement or a one night stand?

  301. MagicCitySB says:

    I won’t miss the wink feature at all! If nothing else, it was a great to for people to be silent creepers rather than state their interest. I for one, look forward to the new and creative messages I’ll be receiving… But hopefully not for too long!

  302. Sataney Shibari says:

    I dedicated 3 minutes of my life to describe myself in the profile. If you can’t surrender 30 seconds to type something worthwhile, life will continue being hard for you.

  303. SunShineSD says:

    1st!

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