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How Women Can Earn More Money

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It’s no secret that women earn less than men. In fact, the Center for American Progress was quoted admitting that “the gender wage gap has not budged in recent years”. So what’s a girl to do?

We can sit here and wait until legislation is passed that will magically diminish the “wage gap”, or reform the executive ladder. Or you can follow some of these tips that can add upwards of $10k to your annual salary.

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Get a Job That Doesn’t Rely on Looks

Being a Sugar Baby is one thing, but the chances of modeling your way into that house on top of the hill are slimmer than your size “0”s. Every woman, heck every person, was born with special skills. Use your ingenuity and resources to find employment. If you are already monetizing on your beauty, think of this: your looks have a shelf life. Look into other career passions that can fuel success—and your bank account!

Stop Believing (In the Constraints) In Gender Inequality

A woman is bossy, whereas a man is a leader. A woman is pushy, whereas a man is persuasive. However, the pitfall for many women in the workplace is accepting gender inequality as though it was the law of the land. Change can be made, but it has to start with your attitude. Self-pity is a surefire way to not only cause emotional grief, but also get sacked for behavior.

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Consider Cash-in-Hand Side Jobs

One of my girlfriends recently gained 40 pounds following a nasty break-up. We’ll call her Ally. Adding insult to injury was the fact that the guy cleaned her out during the relationship. You all know the type: Mr. Suave turned (cheating) financial leech. There she was: newly single and overweight with no money to join a gym after being left with a $1300 apartment lease. Jubilant wine nights celebrating our friend’s deliverance from purgatory quickly turned stale. Laughter and anecdotes of horrible sex moments were replaced by complaints and whines about how sad Ally was in her newly found single life.

A few weeks later, Ally found a posting on Facebook from an acquaintance looking for a dog walker. Desperate for extra cash, she offered her services. The following week, another friend of a friend needed one. Soon, my friend went from 5 dogs who she walked and watched regularly to a regular operation, using the extra space in her apartment for doggie boarding. Ally is still running her little doggy daycare while maintaining her freelance writing jobs, adding about $200 to her monthly income. Oh, and all that dog walking? Turned out to be great cardio, and she waddled her way to losing the extra weight.

The point is, you’re not above taking on side jobs. The reward could be far more than you expect.

Disclaimer: Please consider your federal tax requirements for additional income when considering freelance work.

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Learn to Multitask, the Right Way

Ever heard the phrase, “Work Smarter, Not Harder”? Ladies, we were born with this unique skill called multitasking. We were also born with a disease known as overthinking. I’ve known a painful number of women who bite off more than they can chew. The problem isn’t that they can’t handle the workload. It’s the sheer pressure of an endless to do list, and constant worrying about said list that debilitates their ability to succeed. Stop wearing “busy” like a badge of honor. Instead, break up your list into three parts: trivial, short term, and long term.

Trivial items will be things like reading your email, updating social media, or clearing the sink. While short term tasks could be writing a blog or report. Last, but certainly not least, are the long term tasks or projects. The best way to tackle these bad boys is to set up a plan that includes a timeline for tasks within the project itself. That way, you aren’t trying to ineffectively finish the whole project at once.

Don’t Worry About Office Politics      

The marketing intern went behind your back and complained to a manager about how they had to work an extra hour yesterday again–after they volunteered to stay! Reese from accounting used your mistake as a stepping stone to her promotion. An office place is riddled with politics (and people who may strike a self-righteous nerve here and there). Women worry more about these things than their male counterparts.

The next time you’re tempted to indulge these frustrations, compare yourself to the man next to you. What do you notice? Men are less likely to put up with pettiness, let alone add to it. If you want to be regarded on the same playing field, you should act accordingly.

Stop Buying Useless Sh*t

“I’m doing so well saving up for a hou—-SHOES!” I have a confession to make: I am addicted to shoes. Not just your run of the mill flats, pumps, or wedges, I’m talking minimum 5 inch ankle breakers. Carrie Bradshaw circa 1986 would be jealous.

Most women experience this, sometimes using it for therapeutic purposes, but nevertheless the cycle continues. One day you’re walking back from your favorite coffee shop when you see the perfect dress for having Sunday brunch in a rose garden. Who do you even know that owns a garden? You live in a one bedroom flat. The soft crinkling of tissue paper is a beautiful melody, regardless of the little voice protesting that you will never wear it.

On average, women buy clothing twice as often as men, who are less impulsive. We spend money on things that we think will make our lives easier or happier. Even our tampon commercials promote lifestyle instead of the actual product. Try eliminating unnecessary purchases and consider a monthly budget rather than a weekly stipend.

Being a woman has its perks, but you can create your own holiday bonus.

What other ways can women make more money? What did you think of these tips? Do you plan to use any of them?


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800 Responses to “How Women Can Earn More Money”

  1. aurelien says:

    Money is the result of a job well done. :-)
    Money is one of the best way to access our personal freedom.
    money gives freedom to buffer.
    money just know when the result of a job well done and especially the value add we bring to others. :-)

  2. An outstanding share! I’ve just forwarded this onto a coworker who had been conducting a little homework on this.

    And he actually ordered me breakfast because I stumbled upon it for him…

    lol. So allow me to reword this…. Thank YOU for the meal!!

    But yeah, thanx for spending the time to talk about this subject here on your web site.

  3. bouchaib says:

    Failed Arab Coup money معونة والاسم عربي ليس لدي الوقت اشرحه

  4. flyR says:

    Spicey continued HOWEVER a red blooded SD is going to be far more focused on his SB’s quivering response to strategically deployed kisses than conceptual theories of what should be.

  5. flyR says:

    Sugary Spicey – I surrender to your vastly greater knowledge in that specific area

  6. SugarySpicey says:

    Flyr darling, you know I love you, but Gerbils = Beastiality and repressed sexuality. It is not fare, true, or kind to say that homosexual men are Gerbil users – in my experience it tends to be closeted Hetero-identifying men who engage in the most perverse sexual behaviors.

  7. flyR says:

    @Alice – ” I started to doubt, it is perfect. I’m considering trying it, still don’t know when. Hope anyone else hear about it as well.”

    I the order of priorities I would put it somewhere between 1,000 and 1 million. The gay community may feel differently as they are shopping for a home for their favorite gerbil.

    My sense is that vaginal region playgrounds come in different shades of perfect in their natural state.

  8. sweetie says:

    Fatty – “The fact is that men plan/invent/manage everything because we are more capable than women in these things.”

    Hello, Bastardito! How are you? Do you really mean women are not as capable as men? Or you just couldn’t help poking at Sugary?
    I don’t agree with that. It’s the fact that women have been on the reserve bench far too long to be able to play along men. We’re catching up, though.

  9. Sugardoll says:

    aliceS says:
    Sugardoll I know, some men’s do have. But since they are men’s, they don’t need to be pretty out there :)

    **Do you really think someone is going to stop from doing anything just because is not as clear as the rest of the skin, do you forget when you walk to that path most of the times your eyes are close and you mouth is open…!!!! lol

  10. Josh says:

    New blog alert. 😉

  11. SouthernSB says:

    @aliceS It sounds a little dangerous. I know I would never do it. Just stick to Brazilians to get rid of any annoying hair in those areas, and don’t worry about the color. I’m pretty sure most SD aren’t really paying attention when the rubber hits the road.
    @Everyone, Ahhh my twenties when I wouldn’t date anyone shorter than 5’11” and taller than 7’2″. I could pick them out just by looking at them. Whoa, I love tall good looking men. My little 20 something yr. old brain had dreams of birthing future supermodels and NBA players, but then I met my 5’8″ hubby and I learned to love men who were still hot (is there a such thing as a non hot Latin?) even if they were vertically challenged. Actually, height shouldn’t really even matter to me since just about every man on the planet is taller than I am anyway. I only hit the measuring stick at 5’0″, and could make Prince feel tall.

  12. aliceS says:

    Sugardoll I know, some men’s do have. But since they are men’s, they don’t need to be pretty out there :)

  13. Kms2014 says:

    Yes, tall guys are great. My ex husband is 6’4″ and my son is already 6’2″. He is still shy around girls, but I told him that he already has the height advantage, and he will appreciate that later, hopefully (:

  14. Sugardoll says:

    @alice

    I wouldnt worry much, also men can have their part more dark due to friction, i dont think its a matter when having sex.

  15. Sugardoll says:

    Kms2014 says:
    @Richard..6’5″… That is a great height for tall women to wear high heels around (:

    woop woop!! lovely… once i dated someone he was 6.3 im 5.4 and it was greeeat… i keep to myself why taller guys are so nice… lmao!!

  16. Kms2014 says:

    @alice…I saw that on TV as well. Although, I heard it was more prevalent in the homosexual male community, but this was a couple years ago, so perhaps it is more popular now? If a man enjoys his face-time down there, then maybe it is worth it? I do not think most men care, though…unless the colour is really off? I have heard my male friends speak of roast beef references before…However, I did not ask them to go into more detail..

  17. Kms2014 says:

    @Richard..6’5″… That is a great height for tall women to wear high heels around (:

  18. Josh says:

    For some reason, I have never had any complain/worry/issue about the complexion of my sugar babies’ and girlfriends’ vagina or anus.

    I guess that disposable income has a way of being spent somehow. What else can I say? 😉

  19. aliceS says:

    Josh lol thank you :) but you never responded, if you pay the attention how your sugar baby is built out there? Do you have some yay and nay for example?

  20. Josh says:

    Since Zack is not here, please allow me to do the honors. Search for umLxbWYTdd8 in YouTube

  21. aliceS says:

    By the way, I’d like to ask a very weird question. I thought about it before, but what the hell. My question is to both sugar babies, and sugar daddies. About two month ago, while watching TV, I heard about super stars, porn stars and celebrities making their body more perfect. And one of the methods, was anus bleaching. They say, and I guess it’s true, that with age, and hormones and specially females after giving birth, those parts of bodies like anus and the skin around vagina is getting darker. The cost of it is not that high, it’s around $100 up to $150 in the esthetic salons. They using some acid for it. Results are different, due to our original skin tone. But the effects make look our private parts more esthetic, and prettiest. I’d like to know, if sugar daddies paying a big attention to the visual aspects of their sugar babies, while making love. And if any sugar baby already tried this method. Not that I’m having a black hole, but it makes me wonder, I’m a mother of two. And I thought my private parts are pretty fine, but after this controversial show, I started to doubt, it is perfect. I’m considering trying it, still don’t know when. Hope anyone else hear about it as well.

  22. Richard says:

    @Alice – The first impression is important, and I find few things sexier than a woman with a great pair of legs in very high stiletto heels….assuming they are designer ones, not stripper shoes! Those heels look perfect to me. My philosophy is the taller the better on a woman…but I’m 6’5″ (195 cm) so most women can wear even 170 mm heels without any issues with me. If he’s a real gentleman he won’t ask you to walk far, and he’ll give you his arm to support you.

    If you like to wear high heels all the time, and he doesn’t appreciate that, better to find out now.

  23. Sugardoll says:

    Ladies, curious are you filtering for the same in SD “relatonships”?

    Well, yes, i do, my SD’s need to have features that i like, or the whole package, face, body , height, and no fat, i dont like shubbys, unless they have a cute face. then i could consider. lol

  24. FatBastardSD says:

    The blog was just as bad before Josh started posting, so I hope he continues.

    @PriceySpicey

    It is no surprise to me that women are in jail due to the plans of their BF’s and husbands. The fact is that men plan/invent/manage everything because we are more capable than women in these things.

  25. aliceS says:

    Josh, I’d love to meet a nice looking guy in my ages, tall, smart, funny, and who will respect me and make me happy, but I grew up from those happy ending stories years ago. So no. My perfect men seems do not exist. So, now I’m more looking for a really intelligent older men, taller than me still. I found out intelligence is more sexy than sexy body. I discovered, that making love with those types of a men, makes me feel special. I can attract muscled and 30 years old men without problems, but to be attractive to someone with high intelligence is way harder. And make my reward sweeter. If that what you were asking about :)

  26. Josh says:

    Ladies, curious are you filtering for the same in SD “relatonships”?

  27. Sugardoll says:

    haha KMS those are things we have to deal not even if they are not SD once a date with a RED sport car asked me if i could wear a red dress to match with his car..lol.

  28. Kms2014 says:

    It does kind of suck, though, since in tall heels I look to be about 6’2″….Do most men like women taller than them, generally? Or, do they prefer a shorter woman?

  29. Kms2014 says:

    Yes, I understand this…When I was in my early 20’s, I wouldn’t date under 6’2″, but then I met a guy who had a really great personality and was cute….but, only 5’10”. It took me a little longer to warm up to him, but he was the greatest sex, and taught me a lot, since I was a bit clueless, in my mid twenties. But, I totally understand wanting someone taller…it is just something I prefer as well, although, my standards are not as strict as in my 20’s (:

  30. aliceS says:

    Kms2014 I’m a high heels maniac :) i love tall men’s. So i can wear mine. I wouldn’t date a guy who is lower then me in my high heels. I’m sorry to hear, that you aren’t so lucky with tall men’s in you state 😉 once, I met a guy, over an Internet, he was so handsome, so hot, his voice so deep. I almost fall in love with him. We spoked over Skype over a 7 month, and I never asked him, how tall he was. In those videos conversation he looked big enough. He was a soldier and I just assumed, since he had so muscled body he is tall. Damn, when he finally decided to visit me. He flew like 800 miles. And I saw him. I almost spit my drink. He was same height as I without heels. My love to him, just flew away. And I told him. Forget about all I promised, that we are going to do, when you came here. The sexual part I mean. Cause I just lost all interest in him. I fell bad doing this. But I just couldn’t.

  31. Kms2014 says:

    @Darkhorse, do you prefer your SB to dress a certain way?

    A SD might say ‘we may want to dress up’, if we were going somewhere really nice, but most times they will say, ‘wear whatever you would like’, when I asked for their opinion. Some men do not like telling a lady how to dress, even if asked…I asked one yesterday and that was his answer….I was hoping he would tell me something to give a hint to what he liked, however, I think some men feel it is being controlling, if they give too much direction in how a woman chooses to dress.

  32. Kms2014 says:

    Yes, Alice…I remember being in downtown London and most men were so tall and athletic/ slender…Of course, many were from other countries, too, but the average was definitely taller than my current American city, so you are lucky…in France and with tall men (:

    Wedges can look sexy or slutty…depends on it’s design and what you wear it with…I have a pair that are more on the conservative side(they are not very high, but still a little sexy), so can even wear them to work and they look nice.

  33. Brown Island Sugar says:

    I know this is completely off subject and I usually don’t post in blogs In fact I’ve been watching this one since around 2008. But anywho I digress…I have been a member of this site for 5 years and though it’s sad to admit I haven’t found not even one serious SD on this site. I have read every..and I do mean EVERY article ever published in this blog and have followed every tip, pointer, do and don’t to the letter. Clear pictures? CHECK Somehow capture your personality in a profile description CHECK? Change my email to my .edu email to upgrade my profile? CHECK Anything else you can think of? Double CHECK. SO….that just leads me to my actual reason for posting after so long. After falling into a cycle of discouragement and optimism I started collecting responses and sorting them. After the fact I did a little math and found that 1 of every 3 responses that I’ve gotten and 1 in every 6 profiles I’ve read state that they aren’t interested in what I’ll just call brown sugar. I know it’s just preference etc but I MUST ask. Is there a taboo or stigma on brown sugar in the sugar world? Is that just an American thing? (I’m Jamaican and Irish) I don’t get it. Maybe there’s something I’m missing. Any thoughts?

  34. aliceS says:

    DarkHorse I agree everyday outfit is far not appropriate. But that walking wish just knocked me down. I hate walk. I’m almost all day in my car. I don’t like it. But well. It’s better than hotel room visit. So.

  35. DarkHorseSD says:

    The models being discussed earlier – they are getting paid to perform and can’t show up insisting wearing whatever they choose for the day’s work.

  36. Josh says:

    Ouch!!! 😉

  37. Sugardoll says:

    Oh come on, girls im just 5’4 and nothing that i cant handle with a high platform wedges or half heels boot, more if i have to walk.

  38. aliceS says:

    Josh I’m not french. I don’t give a shit* about french dwarfs lol

  39. Josh says:

    As per Wikipedia,

    USA average male height 5′-10.5″

    France average male height 5′-9.5″

    Average female height is 5′-5″ in both countries.

  40. aliceS says:

    Kms2014 I’d like to but those. But I’m afraid they are too hm.. how to say it… slutty? Though I still like to have them

  41. aliceS says:

    Yeah, I heard in some countries people or men aren’t tall enough. Here average is between 6.1 to 6.3 so. My little 5.6 need high heels all the time

  42. Josh says:

    24 °C niiiice.

  43. aliceS says:

    Lol Sugardoll your features are way too much for my ego. I don’t feel like a female anymore :)

  44. Kms2014 says:

    Those shoes are sexy, Alice…I always want to wear heels that high but hate being so tall in them….I’m 5’9″ and a lot of the men are shorter in the area I live ): I miss some parts of Europe with all those super tall men….

  45. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    “**Are you bored today? lol”

    No I am just wondering if certain id’s that launch attacks against me belong to one person or they are indeed multiple people, who are uber coordinated in those attacks. 😉

  46. Kms2014 says:

    Wedge heel boots can look sexy…depends, though. They are better for walking, too.

  47. Kms2014 says:

    @sugardoll…I agree…jeans and a nice blouse can look very polished. Sometimes, even sexier than a dress, if the jeans fit just right (:

  48. aliceS says:

    I thought about little black, those shoes in my avatar, black cashmere sweater, and some delicate jewelry as additional things. Hm… am I being obsessive, maybe. But I’m so nervous about this meeting, it’s my second one. I will avoid hotels room for sure 😉 and DarkHorse they say it should be around 24’C in here that day 😉

  49. Sugardoll says:

    Hey there Sugardoll, or shall I say super sexy model :) I’m still offended by the way :)

    **Sorry alice, you cute too… 😉 just that some of us have much more features than others…lol… luv u

  50. Sugardoll says:

    jeans and boots…just depends…

    i usually use jeans, and a nice blouse, or a short dress with boots,

  51. DarkHorseSD says:

    Alice, you are going on a date to land an arrangement with someone who will give you lots of money to please him, so find out what pleases him and deliver. Also wait until you can find out what the weather should be.

  52. Sugardoll says:

    Josh says:
    Rhetorical question:

    If one person posts with multiple id’s using different proxy servers, will the SA blog catch that? 😉

    **Are you bored today? lol

  53. aliceS says:

    Kms2014 he kinda want to walk in some center aria of a town. And believe me, there is not the good place to walk in any high heels. But I don’t want to look not officially. I will try maybe to find a gold centre between everyday outfit and official one.
    Josh, Thank you 😉 I’m not that tall, I’m only 5.6 so, I need a high heels often. I hate flat shoes, never bought ones, except sneakers. But I can’t go on a date in my sneakers lol.

  54. Josh says:

    aliceS

    You are pretty tall dear. Use low heels. Or if you must wear high heels, or any kind of heels, then pack some flat walking footwear.

    Outfit: Any kind of outfit would look good on you. You are GORGEOUS sweetheart. 😉

    Best of luck/time/success with the date. Think Chemistry lite and Economics regular. :)

  55. Kms2014 says:

    Really high heels might not be the best, if walking a lot(will it be on cobblestone?)…I’ve met POT in fancy dress or jeans and boots…just depends…

  56. KatPaw says:

    Do men really think “I’m well endowed ” in their second message makes a lady want to jump on a reply to them..
    Helloooooooo sugarrrrrrrs!

  57. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question:

    If one person posts with multiple id’s using different proxy servers, will the SA blog catch that? 😉

  58. aliceS says:

    So, returning to the blog topics and SA :) I’d like to know, what outfit is appropriate for the first date? I’m going to have my first date next week. Not sure what to put on? Any ideas? He want to promenade, so I will walk a lot, I think. In my high heels, might be not too comfortable making miles.

  59. Kms2014 says:

    It is pretty funny, but some people actually want to get a good convo started on blog. Just hard to do with a troll always around…constantly, lol.

  60. aliceS says:

    Hey there Sugardoll, or shall I say super sexy model :) I’m still offended by the way :)

  61. Sugardoll says:

    😉 hehe…all this is so funny… hi, everyone

  62. aliceS says:

    I understand that. But if you just ignore the offensive part, and reply only to persons you do respect. And we all do the same, then blog will have a possibility to return to his cute* and useful functions :) make love not war, as they say

  63. Kms2014 says:

    Also, I did not just add Josh randomly into my remark. He made a disparaging comment, to one of my earlier posts. Perhaps, you did not pick up on it, but I did not start anything with him, first. He is the instigator in most circumstances.

  64. Kms2014 says:

    It would still be easier and nicer, since most agree…if this person would leave, or just stop monopolizing blog. Yes, I am being immature by posting some of these things, but am quite sick of his misogynistic posts. Would think most women would feel the same way.

  65. aliceS says:

    Kms2014 someone who is really intelligent will just ignore the non – intelligence. Isn’t? Shall we continue without offending and sarcastic phrases about others posters? I reacted to your comment, cause you seem liked as well say something about something, and then just added Josh in a middle of it, for no reason. What we have here now, is like bullying from every side. Why can’t we all just enjoy our conversation with people we go along. And don’t worry about the ones we don’t accept?

  66. Kms2014 says:

    Glad we have your permission. How about saving us the trouble of ignoring ‘said’ posts, and moving to another blog far…far away 😉

  67. Josh says:

    People people.

    As sage Rodney King said long ago: can’t we all just get along?

    Please post whatever you want to post. I am trying not to interfere with others’ threads.

    Ignore my threads if you don’t like them.

  68. Josh says:

    @Richard

    Awww you are so cute. Muah! 😉

    I am sorry I wrote that silly post in the last blog.

    Friends again? :)

  69. Josh says:

    “Josh, don’t be so quick to bite. Hold your horses a little and offer some kind of reasonable answer, or ignore her comments, or just say you don’t plan to answer them.”

    I think that’s reasonable advice. Thanks :)

  70. Kms2014 says:

    Sorry, SS…that was my posting of SS..glad I caught you, though (: Will try and email you.

  71. SugarySpicey says:

    I pop in from time to time as I’m still afraid of what nonsensical thing you’ll do next, saw “SS”, so scrolled up to follow the conversation and noticed the nonsense about wanting women to be speedbumps for able-bodied men.

  72. Kms2014 says:

    I know, Richard…I do know better ): Was working from home today, so had more free time than usual.

  73. Richard says:

    @KMS – Hi there. Yes, the blog has had very little information or interesting debate recently. I only skim it now. I’m hopeful that if everyone ignores the bad player, he will eventually go away. Every time you respond or argue you give him the attention he so desperately needs. In other words, “don’t feed the troll.” :)

  74. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question:

    Is there a coincidence that one blogger is quoted on the blog and the quoted blogger shows up and posts within 34 minutes and refers to the blogs, which were posted hours ago?

  75. Kms2014 says:

    @sweetie…he ‘tries’ to insult other’s intelligence…’tries’ being the operative word here…but honestly, what does it prove about him as a man(or woman) that he has to attack women, in this manner? On a blog…hidden behind a computer like the coward he is, perhaps?

  76. Kms2014 says:

    I know that sweetie and many others feel the same way about certain blog posters. I was only on the blog once last year, but was a much nicer crowd…some of them come around still, but most likely do not enjoy these silly ‘cum’ questions(would you be a speed bump for your man? Really? Haha) and probably do not want to deal with dumb rhetorical question posts either.

  77. sweetie says:

    Josh – “1. What type of IQ and what level of income level one needs to be at to interpret a man’s ability to do whatever the fuck he wants to do at any given time as a person blogging from his basement?”

    See, you’re doing it again. You could have just answered her question without trying to insult her intelligence. Josh, don’t be so quick to bite. Hold your horses a little and offer some kind of reasonable answer, or ignore her comments, or just say you don’t plan to answer them.

    Sugary, good to see you.

  78. SugarySpicey says:

    KMS – go ahead I have a gmail address at utahspicey

  79. SugarySpicey says:

    KMS – how exciting does it sound to have a life where you never leave your computer screen and your only human interactions take place with posters in a blog community who have repeatedly asked you to leave, and women who only show up when the rent is due?

    When I say it like that, I really am deeply sad for people like that. The mom in me now sees how truly broken they must be. It drips from their every post.

    “Pay attention to me! I’m lonely!”

  80. Kms2014 says:

    Hello SugarySpicey, I was actually wondering if I might send you a private email message? I am on an ipad, at the moment, and it doesn’t seem to have the option on here to send private blog members messages….

  81. Kms2014 says:

    I doubt anyone with a high(even average)IQ would think they were so ‘witty’ and clever to post so many nonsensical ‘rhetorical’ and no rhetorical questions, hehe.

  82. SugarySpicey says:

    Regarding women as speedbumps, it happens far too often that women sacrifice themselves physically, emotionally, and mentally for men who aren’t worth the dirt it would take to kick up as you drive away.

    Years ago I did a research project on drug crimes, domestic violence, and women in prison. In interviewing dozens of women in prison for drug crimes I did not meet a single woman who wasn’t there because she’d been some form of drug mule for her loser boyfriend, the drug selling was never her idea. Those boyfriends were also usually abusive.

    In interviewing men in prison, if his crimes were related to a woman, it was usually that he’d beaten his wife and children and been sentenced for it (and I only met one man who thought it was reasonable that he’d go to prison for doing so).

    Later when I worked directly with victims of domestic violence I can remember a handful of women who lost their children rather than lose their deadbeat husband/boyfriend.

    Far too often, and for no damn good reason, women are perfectly willing to lie down and act as speedbumps for the men in their lives.

    Rhetorical question: what kind of loser expects women to sacrifice their lives for their husbands or boyfriends?

  83. Kms2014 says:

    Also, Alice, he is the one who is continuously accusing SD and SB of lying on blog. So, my question to you is, ‘how does he know who is lying and who isn’t?’ That is more of his ‘thing’ to do. He/She is the one who usually makes insinuating comments and insults the SB. Many of the veteran posters are not on blog as much, since he started monopolizing blog conversations.

  84. Josh says:

    Rhetorical questions:

    1. What type of IQ and what level of income level one needs to be at to interpret a man’s ability to do whatever the fuck he wants to do at any given time as a person blogging from his basement?

    2. What type of life experience one needs to have to critically question such interpretation instead of referring to it as some kind of wisdom?

    Categories: income level, IQ, life experience.

  85. aliceS says:

    It’s funny how other people have no problems counting others time, money, etc. And even more ideas how they should spent it. Btw he doesn’t need to work, others work for him. Or maybe he have a generous sugar baby. Who knows?

  86. Kms2014 says:

    He certainly is not at a job, or working(unless, you call trolling profiles on SA and WYP, as well as all their blogs working, hehe) if so, he would not be able to post 24 hours a day 😉

  87. aliceS says:

    Same question to you dear

  88. Kms2014 says:

    @alice…how would you know where he is? Hehe

  89. aliceS says:

    Kms2014 I have proof he is not in the basement , so what now?

  90. Kms2014 says:

    When I said ‘steady’ commercial and print work…that did not equate to ‘thousands a day’, everyday, 9-5, M-F. I meant steady employment in average print and commercial work can be good money. But yes, if you want to average out a daily pay like that, by the annual salary of $100,000, then fair enough. However, that is not going to be their ‘actual’ daily pay, when on set.

  91. Kms2014 says:

    @SunshineSD…you do not ‘steadily’ make thousands a day, lol. You might work a week, a few days…a month…it is NOT like a regular 9-5 job, in the least! Hehe, it is funny you think that 😉 It all depends on project and how long it is. They have been filming the Hungar Games movies here, for example…they film for a few months, here, then other locations…a commercial(for online or tv, can vary for days to weeks). I worked with a line producer for a short while, when I came back from teaching overseas. I have had many jobs…all great learning experiences (:

    @Josh, well according to SS…you cannot learn too much in life being in one’s basement, but you can learn a bit, when you experience life, work overseas, and get involved in as many things as you can 😉 Life experience is priceless…you can never get that from basement on computer, hehehe.

  92. Josh says:

    “I don’t what I want” but “I do know what I want” type of “mind fuck”? 😉

    I don’t really know what I’m searching for on this site any longer. I have no problems finding men to date outside SA. I can get lovers or dinner dates on any website. I guess what I am hoping for is an upgrade on the types of men I date. I’m looking for someone evolved, successful, kind, attentive, thoughtful, spiritual and who I find physically attractive.

    Age is irrelevant and hopefully you feel the same, as long as you’re young at heart and take care of your body and soul. If you are not willing (or able) to put in the time and effort required to build a genuine relationship then you should be prepared to compensate for that in some other way. If you’re looking for an NSA arrangement that’s when an allowance comes in handy. It keeps both parties happy and satisfied and free to do our own thing when we’re not together.

    I put it out there that I was looking for a real relationship on here but I’m thinking it’s not going to happen on this site. I want the full package if I’m going to get into something real with someone. You will be the type that doesn’t just see me as a tattooed little play-toy. I’m a real person with a lot to give to the right person.

    Category: Mind fuck

  93. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question: SDs, in the larger scheme of things where you are primarily arranging with an SB for her wonderful company, does her ability to spell perfectly give any hints about her ability to give a blow job perfectly? 😉

    Category: Cum-talk

  94. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question: What kind of frame of reference one needs to interpret something that happens some of the times into something that happens all the times? 😉

  95. Josh says:

    Not so rhetorical questions:

    1. Is there an online training institute that teaches how to introduce a personal anecdote/story/event for each and every argument or counter argument one comes upon in his/her life?

    2. What is the minimum age limit to ensure that those personal anecdotes/stories/events are believable? 😉

  96. SunShineSD says:

    “Thousands per day” consistently would result in half a million a year or more. $100,000 a year means $300 per day; or $400 per work day, before tax. After taxes, it becomes 200-$250 per day every day consistently

  97. Pleasure Thief says:

    Regarding the welder, I would have stopped reading as soon as I read the word “conversate.”

    @DarkHorseSD – I like your blocking strategy. If do the same with the SDs whose profiles I don’t like, but for a different reason. I know that they will see that I viewed them, and I would like to just cut it off at the pass.

  98. flyR says:

    I seldom reply to winks but if the woman/profile is attractive I’ll reply to those with high allowances that I liked their profile, appreciate their interest but that my budget is not what they are seeking . About 70% of the time I get a note back saying that the allowance was just there as a filter.

    If you set a high allowance and do not take the time to write to folks (not a big fan of winks) then you may be filtered out . You can say you have read my profile and you find it interesting and consistent with what you are looking for , without telling me to ignore your allowance

  99. Elaine says:

    @ Sunshine

    This is not only told, this happens in real!
    And not only the Sultan of Brunei….

  100. Kms2014 says:

    I dunno SunshineSD…I live in a city where they have started to do a lot of movies and commercials…true, the average earnings are not that great, but some people get paid $100,000 plus, per year with the (average)steady commercial and print work. My friend is in that business and have met many several others through him. There are days where he will make many thousands, and other times…not so much. But, there are more outlets to meet a sugar daddy that way as well. It all just depends.

  101. SunShineSD says:

    Most models and actresses do not make much money, especially when measured in terms of total earnings over a career time. For the overwhelming majority of girls in them, those jobs are just like cheer leaders for NFL teams, a minimum-wage job that has marketing potential for something else: e.g. a marriage to high income earner and/or a long term child support and alimony from the same, or marketing billing for a later career in the (adult) entertainment industry itself.

    It’s interesting to note that, even the former James Bond, the well known actor Timothy Dalton, only pays $2000/mo for child support for his only child; in other words, even such a well known actor in the top 2-3 tiers don’t make much money in the long run. Mel Gibson does pay $20k/mo to the same woman for a more recent child, but Gibson is a super star with leading roles in several highly successful franchise serial films and a decent director/producer career.

    The few models / actresses that do pull down thousands per day on a consistent basis obviously have no need for SD per se, except for perhaps very short-term emergencies. In that case, the Sultan of Brunei is rumored to host bona fide actresses from around the world, for something like $100k-300k in gift jewries after a stay of a week to a month at his harem; the girl is expected to be available to him and his siblings/friends, but the men may be too busy to pay any attention at all to the visitor, so we are told.

  102. Zack says:

    Heh, fair enough 😀

    But you asked about Onyx’s secret. I think he automatically filters so many of the sbcorts that he hunts on a different skill (or emotional) level, imo.

    He does seem to have a concern for making ladies cry…
    //www.youtube.com/watch?v=EtYre1GABao

  103. Josh says:

    @Zack

    “How many “real men” would do that for the mother of his children?”

    That’s heavily dependent on sustain “mind fuck” throughout the marriage/courtship and the mind fuck episode right before the car started rolling. 😉

  104. Zack says:

    How many “real men” would do that for the mother of his children?

  105. Josh says:

    “Mom puts life on line to save children

    A Lawrence mother said she used herself as a speed bump to save her twin toddlers from a rolling car.”

    That’s LOVE!

    Rhetorical question: How many women would do something like this for their husbands/boyfriends?

  106. Josh says:

    “her idea of allowance was nice dates and a little help with tuition for her second pHD at $500/month, and wanted to spend 2+ nights a week together.”

    That’s kinda like waaaaaay less than $65/meet…

    WHAT!!!!! No thousands upon thousands of dollars on this SB?

    So what is the criteria to spend thousands upon thousands on one woman and spend almost nothing on another? 😉

  107. Josh says:

    “please ignore the allowance listed on my profile, it is only there as a filter, I’m really not worried about money”.

    So basically ignore what many women say in their profiles in SA kinda like many men do IRL? 😉

  108. onyx_percula says:

    Ref high allowances — A lot of the girls in my area will list their allowance higher than they are really after or realistically expect. The reason being when you list minimal or practical all to often they will be contacted by guys that want to give them little for a lot. They are the ones more or less trying to game the escort game.

    I was contacted by a hot 30’something Ukrainian (US citizen) that was not only DDG but a successful very smart career woman that listed her allowance as “High”. In her initial message to me “please ignore the allowance listed on my profile, it is only there as a filter, I’m really not worried about money”. And true to her words her idea of allowance was nice dates and a little help with tuition for her second pHD at $500/month, and wanted to spend 2+ nights a week together. Yes I still she her from time to time 😉 I’m like her FWB but real benefits 😉

  109. flyR says:

    @Elaine – expanding on your post, if you watch the Barrett Jackson auto auctions on TV you’ll see guys paying extraordinary prices for the cars they wished they could have owned when they were in college. Many were focused on their studies, perhaps introverted and often shunned by the most desirable coeds. Nerds used to be a bad word until too many of them ended up billionaires. They matured, were successful and now want to revisit what they missed.

    In days past they might have tucked the equivalent of an SB into the accounting department or a receptionist position that just happened to pay above market or a sales position where some extra sales could be directed their way. However the downside has become too risky for most.

    The SB is the lower , lower drama answer

  110. flyR says:

    @sugardoll “everything in life is an arrangement”

    perfect

  111. Zack says:

    Is she local?

  112. Jj says:

    “I’m a 24 year old visual merchandiser, server and student.” Hmmmmm!?

  113. Sugardoll says:

    Same concept as a hot model marrying a super rich(yet not so handsome) guy.

    **you can see that happen also with good looking girls (no models)thats why i say theres no difference being a SB, everything in life is an arrangement,,,,lol

  114. flyR says:

    My comment on the pyramid was more focused on what I think is important , that the SB to place increased focus on other dimensions of the relationship including the probability of longevity, psychological impact, pleasure, personal growth, experiences, mentoring if appropriate, caring involved.

    Perhaps an analogy- over the years most of us have had cars that were special. They were fun to drive, driven fast, but carefully, kept in garages, seldom given to valets and if necessary with enough cash to assure that they were not abused, washed and waxed, lovingly, maintained and improved. At 100,00 miles they were in near new condition. We have been loaned fine cars which were driven with appreciation and the intent to return in better condition that received. Finally we have driven rental cars (I used to rent 2-3 cars a week) . At Daytona more than a few were tested in the Atlantic, used for bump drafting in the dark of the night. On business trips they were the terror of the Boston cabbies and San Francisco hills and no parking space was too small or construction site too rough. They were returned dirty, trash filled and occasionally limping but Hertz was generally very happy.

  115. Zack says:

    Might not be a good idea, but I’m an SD.

    Yes, flyR, it’s getting amusing 😀
    //www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctj-RDbTBMU

  116. aliceS says:

    I propose to every sb on this blog, to put high in our profiles for a week or a even a day, and see what happens. People may email to us, just because of anger or curiously :) I wonder how huge ME I need to have, to believe in that :)

  117. Elaine says:

    Think “1001 Nights” fairytale!

    Beauty alone can get boring, is easy to replace and above all, will fade.
    Fascination will remain, bind and improve….

  118. Elaine says:

    stupid keyboard!

    Ok to continue: ….handsome and above all FASCINATING women can get it too :-)

  119. Elaine says:

    @ kms

    I think my earlier post is already the answer to your question.

    The majority of SB/SD will never fall in the 10.000 category, no matter how hot or young they are, it is just out of their possibilities.

    The supermodel/ armcandy attracting the Rolex lovers and can get it.

    And some real classy, intelligent,

  120. Elaine says:

    @ Flyr

    Unfortunally most men are blinded by the cheap, easy obtainable bling watch and don’t know how to value the exclusive, maybe classical, chic and subtle piece..

    With a subcategory fancying expensive gold and diamond Rolex bling of course….

    Any similarities with the different types of SB/SD of course are strictly coincidential! 😉

  121. flyR says:

    Sugar cubes –

    Think of the sugar world as a pyramid something like the world of watches

    You have an infinite supply of perfectly accurate $25 watches that will tell time, work while you dive and have enough buttons to make you look like a pilot.

    You have $25,000 watches that are simply a joy to own for any number of reasons – beautiful, sign of success to some, chick magnet or just to annoy others.

    Rather than a multiple of 1,000 the sugar multiple might be 50 across the 98th percentile.

    Unfortunately for too many women the $ become the major driver and quality takes a back seat.

  122. Kms2014 says:

    The women that are asking for $10,000 a month….I have not looked at many other women’s profiles, but I could see some women getting that…Are they models/ actresses and of that caliber? Some models and actresses can make thousands per day, so if they get paid that much from their job for a few hours of work, then I can see the justification in them requesting high amounts from a SD…. Although, I would say the likelihood of getting that from a SD elsewhere(other than SA) is probably more likely. Women like that probably have rich businessmen and investors in their social/ work circles, so wouldn’t even need SA to find a sugar daddy. Same concept as a hot model marrying a super rich(yet not so handsome) guy.

  123. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    Golden Pussy Syndrome or GPS is as orgasmic its flesh and blood counterpart. 😉

  124. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    “Blondie, actually there is a winner, less tha 24 hrs. on SA, first date, first SD – 5k ;)”

    I am now skeptical about the whole thing. :(

  125. Sugardoll says:

    Double = One on the top of other.

    If i see an SD getting double Condom. thats a turn off, id run… lol

  126. Josh says:

    Double = One on the top of other.

  127. onyx_percula says:

    Double condoms, almost never, now triples and quadruples are a goal! Oh not all at once of course 😉

  128. Sugardoll says:

    Has anyone used double condoms?

    **Actually it would be useful for the SB’s to carry 3 or more, theres a lot of SD’s here just p4p

  129. Sugardoll says:

    Blondie, actually there is a winner, less tha 24 hrs. on SA, first date, first SD – 5k 😉

  130. Eloquence says:

    @ Sweetie

    I am glad you have Sun!

    @ all….

    on the long/high zipper comment, many moons ago posted.

    Long zippers in men’s pants, slacks, trousers, britches, jeans (whatever you want to call them) is truly a dis-service to men everywhere.

    It is the equivalent of saying the unibrow is the new irresistible sex appeal….and that’s a negative ghost rider.

    Short zippers and/or low rise slacks provide an arousing display of the man’s “package” to be viewed with the same adoration as a man would view a woman, in the sense, his eyes miss the woman’s eyes and b-line straight to a woman’s crotch minus the camel toe…or with camel toe, who knows? But men would fare well to own a pair because I would miss your eyes as well and have no shame in doing so. :)

    @ Kms

    I agree whole heartedly….men are not the only ones with a high creative sex drive.

  131. blondie says:

    @aliceS Are these girls for real? Seriously? They think they are all that… to the tune of 10k a MONTH which over a year equates to $120,000 for sugar… really ??? I don’t think so ! Show me a SD who has spent that and I’ll show you that pigs actually do fly ! lol

  132. aliceS says:

    I saw similar profiles, and girls there ask high allowance. Plus a lot of gifts and trips. And shopping sprees, so. Maybe they have a golden pussy :)

  133. Kms2014 says:

    Oh, I am not mistaken…’Hun’. Who made you the blog topic picker? Lol

  134. DarkHorseSD says:

    The above is a new profile. Often when I see that I block it lest she later gets her finesse on and I don’t recognize it.

  135. DarkHorseSD says:

    29, Seeking High, former playboy model 😉 …

    PLEASE ABSTAIN FROM COMMUNICATION IF YOU CANNOT MEET MY ALLOWANCE REQUIREMENTS.
    please understand i am not currently in nyc, though it is my home base.

    …an example of providing ONLY reasons not to contact

  136. Josh says:

    You are mistaken dear. But I think many bloggers are waiting for the cum-talk. So let’s not bore them any more than I already have. LOLl!

  137. Josh says:

    In keeping with the favorite topics discussed here, let’s have some come talk…? 😉

    Has anyone used double condoms?

  138. Kms2014 says:

    I don’t know about your marriage, Josh…but my mother was pretty direct with my father…while still being feminine. They were happily married for 50 years until my mother passed away. That was the older generation, though….

    As far as the current American ‘marriage industry’….isn’t that up to 60% divorce rate now? Could it get much worse 😉

  139. Kms2014 says:

    @sweetie…very true! I agree with you…but, I also lived in London for awhile, so I tend to prefer the honest, straight forward approach, but delivered in an indirect manner. There is a certain finesse to it, isn’t there? Not a game, but similar to business, in that you want to be direct but not give your SD anything to run away from either(in case her message might be misconstrued in some way). Like SD guru said, ‘do not give them a reason NOT to contact you’. Couldn’t agree more…there is always time to negotiate exact terms later.

  140. Josh says:

    “Hahaha, mission accomplished.”

    Just imagine what will happen to the marriage industry if women articulated as clearly and as directly instead of “indirect, more feminine” manner? 😉

    That’s all folks….I am done with this thread. :)

  141. sweetie says:

    Hahaha, mission accomplished.

  142. Josh says:

    Ladies, she works with men at least 60 hours every week. So she is direct enough to give the male readers a brief yet honest mind fuck to save them from a lot of it later.

    And you saw above that ALL of the SD bolted for the doors. 😉

  143. sweetie says:

    Kms, I guess we all do what we know. Didn’t mean to tear her profile apart… just some things stick out.

    • SD Guru says:

      @Josh
      “How many SDs would contact this SB without reading any of it? How many SDs would skip her?”

      Whether a SD would bother to read her profile or not depends on her pics, location and demographic. And if he does read it, the #1 rule for a SB’s profile is… don’t give the pot SD any reason not to contact you.

  144. Kms2014 says:

    Not here yet, but hopefully by tomorrow! (((:

  145. Josh says:

    Thats true too. :)

  146. sweetie says:

    And hello to you all! Finally some sun! :)

  147. Kms2014 says:

    @sweetie…I tend to agree with your assessment, in that she would probably have been better off not writing those things in her profile…perhaps, in some cases, it is more effective to get what you want, in a more indirect, yet feminine matter. Or, have the ‘know how’ to pick an SD accordingly, without actually having to write every detail. It can still be upfront, but not so much of the, ‘I only am addressing what is in it for me’, type thing so much.

    I agree that this woman has been approached and probably met some of the fakes and time wasters, on SA. Thus, why she ‘updated’ her profile to such a novel like existence.

  148. Kms2014 says:

    It could be that her boyfriend and her are getting advanced degrees and are not making ‘ideal’ amounts. Or, it could be that her husband/ boyfriend has money as well, but the SB ‘enjoys’ the excitement…much like the men do. You know, many women love sex just as much, if not more than men. If you think any different, then one doesn’t really know a woman. Hehehe

  149. sweetie says:

    She’s not offering much, only expecting. And yes, that sounds like the highlight of a bitchy wife/partner/gf, whatever. Can you articulate being overly demanding? Sure I can, I just wrote you a long-ass novel. Can you articulate how generous you are? Sure I can, I can be affectionate, one word. OK, big difference between the two.

    Please, just because she is working class doesn’t mean she can’t use spell check. She definitely spelt all her expectations.
    No, Josh, it’s not. She’s would make for a bitchy wife. If you like that, fine. I’m not a guy and her profile makes me run for the hills. Has nothing to do with honesty, she’s just not aware of the other person with whom she wants an arrangement. It’s one sided to her advantage. Her majesty.

  150. Jj says:

    “Is your Baby a bitch!!!! Demanding, whining wag…..Daddies a drag, saggy ball and limp!!!! Tune them in to the Josh Blogg!!! for a quickie tune-up and they’ll be back in prime in not time.!!!!!
    *10 minute limited warranty guarantee, certain restrictions apply!!!

  151. Josh says:

    That statement was for those who wanted to out commercial break.

    Are you are talking about a subset of SBs who milk the rich SDs to feed the deadbeat xbox playing boyfriends because they “love” him, and they need twice the amount because it is for the two of them? 😉

  152. Kms2014 says:

    It is the useful part that is in question 😉

  153. Josh says:

    If you have something useful to say then just say it. 😉

  154. Kms2014 says:

    Hi sweetie (:

    Hmm, I dunno…I think probably many SB on SA have a boyfriend, fiancé or in some cases, already have a husband. I would say that most on SA are better at differentiating than the average woman, who might be less inclined to the, ‘what do you offer’ scenario.

  155. Jj says:

    “And we’ll be right back after this commercial break for more of the Josh Blogg!!!” Brought to you by ‘Sugar Daddies R Us’ and “Baby’s a Bitch!!!” Stay Turned!!!!!!!!!1

  156. Josh says:

    “Spelling atrocious,”

    I think that is not an appropriate criticism.

    To me that’s mighty fine piece of writing for a “welder” girl. I respect her as a hard working and articulate human being.

  157. Josh says:

    “Might as well say she’s looking for a husband and she’s wearing the pants.”

    So you agree that many women have that in mind when they are looking for husband?

    And you also find it OK for a woman to demand all that when she is looking for a husband?

    The reality is that most SBs are not sophisticated or trained enough to differentiate between a husband search and an SD search. 😉

  158. Josh says:

    She is not an exception. She is honest enough to articulate it. 😉

  159. sweetie says:

    C’mon, that profile was terrible. Wordy, wordy, wordy… can I say that 1000 times? Spelling atrocious, so full of me, me, me. Finally, at the end she mentions how affectionate she is to her SD in not even 2 lines. Please! Talk about selfish.
    She’s delusional. Might as well say she’s looking for a husband and she’s wearing the pants.

  160. Josh says:

    I guess I forgot Brandon Wade’s Super SD marketing has something to do with it too.

  161. Josh says:

    My two cents…that regal-ness has more to do with “mind fuck” than anything else.

    For most women their vagina+man = carte blanche for mind fuck. 😉

  162. Kms2014 says:

    Perhaps, she is still under some sort of apprenticeship.

  163. DarkHorseSD says:

    I’m challenged to reconcile how someone so regal ended up as a $13.50/hr welder.

  164. Zack says:

    Good welders have bits of art, talent and real skill… as far as “What she does,” sounds like a good start. But…for my type of relationship, just “not ready” in a way that would be an unpleasant struggle to move past. I doubt you could steer her to a good ltr, atm; you’ll need more advanced tools. 😛

    Sufficiently cryptic? Lol—you’re going to need practice if you want to approach eloquence…

    Lest I disappoint,,,
    //www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmgmXgoBZFo

  165. Josh says:

    Those are not numbers from New York or other large cities. She is based in a small midwestern city and I pulled average salary of $27,000 from indeed dot com and gave it a rough multiple of 1.75. Maybe I should’ve written $50,000+

  166. Zack says:

    @ Eloq…I’d like to talk trade. Let’s see what we can put on the table?

    Edwards got screwed. Maybe the pussy deserved it…wimp.

  167. Zack says:

    @ DH…maybe I’m too selfish with my time? I prefer a more casual lifestyle :)

    @ Josh Get her a job on oil platforms and she’ll break six figures and have to fight off guys with extra cash, intense short term ambition, and a desire to travel for a few days….

    And after a few years, she may want to make a life rather than a living…then she’ll be a great pot 😀

  168. KZ says:

    Why is it when a SB emails certain SD, The SD does not reply back…?

  169. DarkHorseSD says:

    When I worked 80hr weeks, I had time for GFs and weekends in the hamptons and elsewhere. Got married too and had time for the wife.

  170. DarkHorseSD says:

    30-50k for a welder working 60hrs/wk doesn’t sound like much.

  171. flyR says:

    Re Welder Lady

    On a quick read there’s a tinge of seeking multiple SD’s . Probably pure accident but I think it’s an issue of product differentiation that more should focus on if just one SD is the target.

  172. Kms2014 says:

    John Edwards…yeah, now there is an upstanding role model for all to aspire to..blehh…../-:

  173. frank says:

    And now a moment of silence for the grand Sugar Momma of them all: Bunny Mellon.

    She was in her 90’s when she met John Edwards and decided to give him millions of dollars. She said upon meeting him that she never could resist a good looking man.

    Rest in Peace

  174. Eloquence says:

    Honestly…if both believe the sexual aspect is lacking…”Then do not what you are obliged to do, but what you have an opportunity to do.”
    Everyone has needs but no one says “I trade you very much”. I’ll trade you what I’ve got if you’ll give me what you’ve got because its a transaction that most people don’t tell the truth about. Cultivate the technique of seeing all “problems” as “opportunities”. The grander our vision, the grander their willingness to access and display the part of them we [have] shown them. The healing process sexually, imho, is the process by which we give people permission to “let go” of every false thought they’ve ever had about themselves.

    Being in a sugar relationship is just as much an expression/being of serving/pleasing the SD as it is for the SB to be pleased/served.

  175. Kms2014 says:

    ‘MRef bang for the buck — Any real SD that is capable of playing the real game of kings, sugaring knows the first secret to wealth is not spending it, wasting it. We didn’t successful enough to play by over spending. We tend to be skilled and tough negotiators in business, and while its touchy and can be downright tacky its important to find a fair and reasonable price in sugar.”

    Hmm, this can be very true, but not just in sugaring. I’ve experienced that many times(not all the time, but often) that the higher the ‘net worth’ and salary an individual has will often result in them being a little more ‘frugal’. In my past, the SD I had, who were not as ‘über’ wealthy, were a little more generous. They seemed to be more concerned with my well-being than the more affluent gentlemen who I felt were always in ‘business mode’. Of course, I generalise and this does not apply to every situation, but as mentioned, have noticed this trend, when collecting for charity causes as well. However, there are also those high net worth individuals who use $1,000 as a $5 note. I think it depends on many factors, past and present, such as how their upbringing, how their parents raised them to handle money and if they were self-made or inherited their vast wealth.

    Remember what the pizza delivery man said…’often times, the bigger the house, the smaller the tip’. In some circumstances, an SB can do better with an allowance from someone a tad outside of the 1% 😉

  176. Josh says:

    No Zack. I am not going to rewrite it.

    I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. The above writeup is basically what I believe many women want from marriage, but usually don’t/can’t/won’t articulate it due to reasons of their own.

    This woman is in mid twenties (I had wrong age group mentioned earlier), works as a welder and makes around $30,000-$50,000 (she works 60 hours so there is overtime pay involved). I have ABSOLUTE respect for her as a fellow productive worker in the economy.

    It is just fascinating to me at least that how many intelligent women’s minds go from a no nonsence, productive human being to a total nonsense as soon as a man comes into play and their is a possibilty of the use of vagina in some capacity.

    Note: Before anyone writes a “woman-hater”, “misogynisty” type of post please note that I used “many” and not “all”. And I have statistics to prove it. 😉

  177. Sugardoll says:

    If your lover sucks and not in the good way, you will have to educate him and do it sooner rather than later.

    Agree, nothing more pleasurable than showing a man how to make you stumble!!

  178. onyx_percula says:

    Ref Profile — Pass big time! Zack nailed it, entitled, demanding yet wanting someone dominate.

    Ref sexual pleasure for both — Remember ladies men simply do NOT get subtle! If your lover sucks and not in the good way, you will have to educate him and do it sooner rather than later. Nothing like faking it for months to pipe up one day and tell him he is useless in bed, lol… crash!

    Same goes for men, be nice, but tell her what she is doing right and what she isn’t and give her directions/suggestions to fix what is lacking.

    Ref bang for the buck — Any real SD that is capable of playing the real game of kings, sugaring knows the first secret to wealth is not spending it, wasting it. We didn’t successful enough to play by over spending. We tend to be skilled and tough negotiators in business, and while its touchy and can be downright tacky its important to find a fair and reasonable price in sugar.

  179. Zack says:

    60 Hours a week that she places above an SD with all the perks? That shows both long and short term incompatibilities, imo. I’m sure she’d be right for someone, but not me. I’d get used and frustrated…and probably told I’m unreasonable, lol.

    I really don’t need to get sucked into another relationship where my main role is to solve problems she makes for herself. Not what I’m seeking.

    Hey, Josh…is this part of a rewrite exercise for her? Heh, if so…move on 😛

  180. gentle(man)soul says:

    Josh says:
    March 18, 2014 at 6:03 am

    The following comes from a pretty decent looking petite girl (7+/10)in her low 20s.

    TMI –Pass

    OTOH -In my experience, many of these over posters will settle on a reasonable arrangement after meeting . It seems that she was burned by a spate of deadbeats just trying to get in her drawers .

  181. DarkHorseSD says:

    The 2014 update was probably necessary because she didn’t meet anyone that met all the unwritten expectations so she had to put them down to avoid wasting her time further.

  182. Zack says:

    Josh…umm, really nice selection on the profile. Perfect? lol

    Definitely a pass, of course. The entitlement…expectations that her needs are met and anticipated…before yours are even a permissible request. Fine as goal or ideal, ill-fated as an expectation. Pass.

    No room for a relationship, no personality for connection.

    Sounds like a great person, though…just no one I would want to try to shoehorn into my life.

    It’s interesting why SDoll isn’t there yet…she may settle into a “good one.” What’s the difference?

  183. Sugardoll says:

    Lovely profile, she covered everything…!!

  184. Josh says:

    The following comes from a pretty decent looking petite girl (7+/10)in her low 20s.

    Not so rhetorical questions…

    How many SDs would contact this SB without reading any of it?

    How many SDs would skip her?

    Looking for someone to share a good time with, experience new things, new adventures! Because I work 60 plus hours a week and do not have a great amount of spare time, I am looking for a relationship which will be beneficial for both. If you are an older man looking for more of a companion to tag along I would love to share a friendship where we could conversate, laugh, joke, spend time together and I could learn a thing or two from you…

    I like it when a man will take the next step on his own, in the sense that he will go that extra mile to ensure I am comfortable and taken care of, instead of waiting on me to incinuate what I would like. In other words impress me.. When a man takes the lead or takes charge without being overbearing or pushy it is such a huge turn on for me. Also, i would like to say i really don’t do well with the ‘perfect man’ complex. A man who doesnt feel the need to talk himself up but rather leads with his actions and demeanor is much more attractive to me. Extremely confident (not cocky) yet humble. Worldly and experienced and still somewhat down to earth . … I am very open minded when it comes to appearances because I believe personality will outshine looks everytime. Only one stipulation! must be at least 5’9. lol 😉

    Updating my profile as of 2014
    Please do not contact me unless you are a SUGAR DADDY. Right now I work a full time job and quite honestly don’t have time for a relationship. So if I am going to squeeze in time for you it has to be worth MY time. My sugar daddy has to realize that I have a job which takes priority over everything and be considerate of that when planning meet ups. A sugar daddy will not wait for me to ask for what I want or need but will realize my needs. He will make sure I am always comfortable and enjoys spoiling that special woman. I would be completely care free while in his company and he can fix almost any problem. This is the kind of man I’m looking for. A leader , a protector, a strong man.

    In terms of arrangements, I would expect an allowance depending on how often we see each other etc. Please remember gentlemen, I can find any guy my own age or otherwise to wine n dine me, and pay for a nice room if I were to stay the night. I am looking for a sugar daddy who can take care of me so that I can get ahead.

    ALSO I am not living in the middle of the hood and looking for someone who can pay my light bill nor am I a bimbo who sits on her butt all day eating bon bons and painting her nails. In other words I’m not desparate for a couple thousand dollars. I have a job and I am looking for a man who can provide me with a luxurious lifestyle and enjoys watching his baby grow and create a stable future for herself.

    I would think a successful man could appreciate and understand what it takes for a young woman to work so hard. Do not be demanding or think that the instant you request something I should immediately accomodate you. I am a lady and expect to be treated as such. In addition to the allowance, gifts are welcome if you feel you know my taste or style. :) And of course travel expenses and all other tabs would have to be taken care of by you when we are spending time together.

    OK now that we have all that out of the way, all men standing please contact me and let the fun begin! I cannot wait to spend time with you! :) I am extremely affectionate with the man I care about and would like to establish a great (and real) connection with someone who feels the same way.

    Please refrain from sending winks. A note would be great if you’re really interested.

  185. Sugardoll says:

    One can also argue that most/many SDs who dont post here (literally) want most bang for their money.

    **Im pretty sure of that, i admit that even if i have my perspective, most of SD/SB see it different as i do. I understand the bang for their money, i like sex, but in my case is either good for both, or nothing … if i dont enjoy it cuz its just for your satisfaction take your money and go pay for sex instruction or buy a plastic doll, not this Sugardoll… lol

  186. Dazed-SD says:

    @SouthernSB,, I’ll take a 47 year old over 27 anyday !
    you go for it !!!

  187. Josh says:

    Sorry submit happy browser…

    One can also argue that most/many SDs who dont post here (literally) want most bang for their money.

  188. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll, you know that what you’re describing is an ideal and not the reality on the ground. I am sure that you will keep your SD very happy. However, the reality on the ground is that most SBs consider the sex part as necessary evil. 😉

    Similarly, I am sure that mostany

  189. Sugardoll says:

    2. Well the fact that she is giving me sex doesn’t mean financial gains have to go only one way. LOL

    I wonder how many SB’s are mature enough to take the opportunity to become a meaning partner outside the bedroom even as SD’s are more or less expected to be a partner in bed not merely on the receiving end of favors.

    **That was tricky, but they are exceptions, not all the SB’s close their eyes when having sex and think of sign of $, i like spoiling my SD in and outside the bed, if i dont feel good with you, i dont care how much $ you have. (everything is not based on finances, sometimes you get much more by valuing and treating a person as a person)

  190. Zack says:

    Suns, there is an inconsistency we’re supposed to ignore there. That’s one of the reasons we’re on SA :)

  191. SunShineSD says:

    “if it’s for the guys pleasure and he’s happy, then fine I suppose… ”

    “Well the fact that he is giving me an allowance does not means satisfaction has to go only on one side. lol”

    Both Blondie and Sugardoll have valid points. Interesting perspective though if the two statements are translated to the counterparts that the gents bring to the table:

    1. If it’s for the SB’s pleasure and she is happy, then I’m fine with myself being the only one bringing money to the table (i.e. she is the only one gaining financially);

    2. Well the fact that she is giving me sex doesn’t mean financial gains have to go only one way. LOL

    I wonder how many SB’s are mature enough to take the opportunity to become a meaning partner outside the bedroom even as SD’s are more or less expected to be a partner in bed not merely on the receiving end of favors.

  192. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    “**Well the fact that he is giving me an allowance does not means satisfaction has to go only on one side. lol”

    That’s is a good way of looking at it.

  193. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll,

    “I hear you always complaining about the lack of pleasure with your SB’s, and its kind of weird to me, should i believe you are the one lack of creativity…LOL muahh mi amor.. mis dos centavos..!”

    Well, I would not know what is bad sex if I did not know the good sex. 😉

    “**Indeed, in 5 min im just warming up… ;)”

    Well, then you are not among “most women”. 😉

  194. Kms2014 says:

    **Well the fact that he is giving me an allowance does not means satisfaction has to go only on one side. lol

    Exactly..had a SD like that once…bad experience!

  195. Sugardoll says:

    if it’s for the guys pleasure and he’s happy, then fine I suppose… but it’s certainly not going to make me orgasm.

    **Well the fact that he is giving me an allowance does not means satisfaction has to go only on one side. lol

  196. Josh says:

    Sugar granddad. Now that is an original.

  197. onyx_percula says:

    @ Sugardoll — “so how to get a SD supporting a SB with an allowance and also tuition, and more to work together when most of them are more focus on the carnal share than really on to lead you to a point where you can get financially stable by yourself?

    Do they really care enough to help you improve a future?”

    I did it once and am trying to do it again now despite some lack of cooperation 😉

    Here in AZ in state tuition is between about $2800 (community college) and $5600 (state schools ASU for example) per semester. Residency is established after one year. The community college rate for out of state is about double.

    My first SB was in her first semester of a STEM degree when she hit bottom and I picked her back up. She worked PT 20-30 hours a week, I covered pretty close to everything. Fast forward ~3 years and she graduates in the top 10% of her class and lands a killer job back in her home state.

    In “shocking” news regard said SB… is now a SM! She has taken a young lady as her SB and her husband to be is supportive of it all. (for all the guys… yes she is bi, no the husband doesn’t get any and yes its a non platonic arrangement) She can’t do a lot, but she is making a big impact in the girls life. We had a loooooong talk this weekend about it, and she plans to keep doing it as long as she can.

    So does that make me a sugar granddad?

  198. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    I take it that you are not going out with her?

    Can you email her profile number to me please? I wanna check out the gutsy dame. 😉

  199. Josh says:

    @sweetie,

    “You didn’t watch “Her”? The zipper size increases in the fashion of the future. And it looks terrible.”

    Does that mean the small zippers are cute? 😉

  200. DarkHorseSD says:

    Pictures are worth a thousand words but so often not one of those words mentions age.

  201. blondie says:

    @sweetie and @sugardoll yes 5 minutes of just non stop pounding doesn’t really do it for me.. . but it depends … if it’s for the guys pleasure and he’s happy, then fine I suppose… but it’s certainly not going to make me orgasm…. I think a lot of men need to be guided in the art of pleasuring a woman… good sex does not equate to just banging away like in some porn film lol…as for the laser hair removal- I had it done, it is agony and cost me several hundred, but my god it is effective…. keeps everything nice and neat and men love it ; ) not much need for waxing anymore. Yay! Instant sex goddess lol

  202. sweetie says:

    Wow, she actually showed up! What did you say to her?

  203. Jj says:

    Subtle DH, subtle!

  204. DarkHorseSD says:

    42 in her profile.

    62 across the table.

  205. sweetie says:

    Josh – “Rhetorical question: Why are the fly zipper lenghts being shortened in men’s slacks? Are women designing men’s slacks now and they think that short fly zippers are cute?”

    You didn’t watch “Her”? The zipper size increases in the fashion of the future. And it looks terrible.

  206. Sugardoll says:

    That’s like finding the unicorn. Onyx seems to be doing some of that, otherwise sex takes precedence, as you have stated yourself. I guess it depends on how committed to the arrangement they are and how much they like you/have time for extra mentoring, or whatever you want to call it. Do any of your SDs have the potential to do that for you?

    **I know it will take time, and no, but it will come, someone suggested me to get the premium membership and even when im not in the financial position to pay it i gave it a try and from last nite i woke up with 5 inbox. so it will be worth it..lol

    Unfortunately the carnel stuff with her is not that pleasurable so the help may have short life.

    I hear you always complaining about the lack of pleasure with your SB’s, and its kind of weird to me, should i believe you are the one lack of creativity…LOL muahh mi amor.. mis dos centavos..!

    Same goes for guys pounding. Just because you can do it for 5 min, doesn’t mean we’re happy with it.

    **Indeed, in 5 min im just warming up… 😉

  207. sweetie says:

    Josh – “If you ask a man 5 min may be too short a time.”

    For a pounding? Did you see the Sex and the City episode when Carrie gets rabbit fucked by that Jewish guy? And then he’s hurt when she cuts the cord because he made such sweet love to her… Hahaha!

  208. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question: Why are the fly zipper lenghts being shortened in men’s slacks? Are women designing men’s slacks now and they think that short fly zippers are cute?

  209. newsdmidwest says:

    An update. I am heading out with SB this week. I am definitely going to see how things go and communicate about the arrangement. I do like her, but want to ensure that we are moving in the right direction. Since we are both new, I think this is part of the issue right now. I will keep you guys updated. I am giving it a couple more weeks, to be fair to both of us. I do not want to jump ship yet, but I am getting ready, just in case.

    I am getting some more bites from other potential SB’s. I am talking with a couple that I do like. So, I am keeping the bullpen warm just in case my first choice doesn’t work out. The couple of potentials are both pretty nice. One is closer to 30, which is no big deal for me. She is pretty smart and definitely attractive. So far, she sounds fairly promising.

    The other potential is 24 and is a smart cookie. This looks like more of a P2P arrangement. This one could also be a good option.

    I definitely think that I am a good option. I just need to step up my game. I have learned to screen out the escorts and the crazies to ensure that my initial meetings are with good prospects for me.

  210. Josh says:

    Dang…talk about misunderstanding. If you ask a man 5 min may be too short a time. 😉

  211. Jj says:

    Sweetie: Like the way you think!

  212. sweetie says:

    I don’t think good, satisfying sex is easy to come by… If it were, we would not be always wanting/looking for better. And it takes two to tango.

    “Me thinks women are thinking, I’ll just talk a lot and that’ll “fuck your brains out” alright. ”

    Same goes for guys pounding. Just because you can do it for 5 min, doesn’t mean we’re happy with it.

  213. Josh says:

    “I fuck your brains out”

    Most women are pretty lame to OK in bed. ( I admit it could just be my own fault that either I am meeting the wrong women or they are not into me.)

    So SDs when you hear this phrase what are you visualizing is going to happen?

    Me thinks women are thinking, I’ll just talk a lot and that’ll “fuck your brains out” alright. 😉

  214. sweetie says:

    Exactly, the connection needs to be pretty out of the ordinary, carnal included.

  215. Josh says:

    “Do they really care enough to help you improve a future?”

    I am trying to help one SB turn her art hobby into business. Don’t have much to report yet but will see how it goes. Unfortunately the carnel stuff with her is not that pleasurable so the help may have short life.

  216. sweetie says:

    Sugardoll – “so how to get a SD supporting a SB with an allowance and also tuition, and more to work together when most of them are more focus on the carnal share than really on to lead you to a point where you can get financially stable by yourself?

    Do they really care enough to help you improve a future?”

    That’s like finding the unicorn. Onyx seems to be doing some of that, otherwise sex takes precedence, as you have stated yourself. I guess it depends on how committed to the arrangement they are and how much they like you/have time for extra mentoring, or whatever you want to call it. Do any of your SDs have the potential to do that for you?

    LucyLove quote ““I have to agree here. I am all for making money and doing what I can to support him and his endeavors. A happy SD will naturally be more inclined to do better and bigger things. With the right SB (one like me) he will be able to increase his cash flow. With my support my SD will do better in the long run because I understand what it takes. it takes a lot of support and the right mind set. It takes some pushing/encouraging. I want to have a sort of Business man/woman Bonnie and Clyde relationship. The “lets get money together while I fuck your brains out” type of relationship.”

    Sounds like a fairytale or marriage – the one in the House of Cards. If you can do this for somebody, why not do it for yourself from the beginning? Oh, you need the financial backing… Right, thought so.

  217. Josh says:

    And when I gave myself a Brazilian it turned out to be a bloody mess as well. Should’ve waited a few days, I guess. It wasn’t painful though.

  218. DarkHorseSD says:

    I once tried to give myself a Brazilian but she was well over 5000/mo

  219. SouthernSB says:

    Kms2014 I’m not in the biggest city in GA. So it’s not like there’s a lot to do around here, but we do have a small art scene and some small clubs and a few local restaurants downtown, but for the most part it’s the mall and chain restaurants. Like I always say, if you want to really do anything it’s always 2 hrs. away. LOL.
    Wow laser hair removal, I hope it doesn’t hurt to much. I don’t think I’d have the guts. Once I tried to give myself a Brazilian. It was a painful bloody mess, let me tell you, I never did that again.

  220. Sugardoll says:

    so how to get a SD supporting a SB with an allowance and also tuition, and more to work together when most of them are more focus on the carnal share than really on to lead you to a point where you can get financially stable by yourself?

    Do they really care enough to help you improve a future?

  221. Kms2014 says:

    I know, sweetie! Me too! Hi, Southern SB (: Nice to know there is another Ga. girl around. Do you like it here?

    I am off for my first laser hair removal appointment…hope it doesn’t hurt. See y’all later 😉

  222. Josh says:

    And lest we forget Monica was NOT a gold-digger. She was in it for the mentor-ship.

  223. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    “We need articles on how men can make more money to pay allowances and $500 date fees.”

    flyR already has a solution for that:

    “the SD whose mind was wandering every 30 seconds into fantasies of carnal pleasures is suddenly focused on business, running a war or leading a nation.” That is, by arranging with a right SB.

    The idea is fully supported by LucyLove through personal testimony:

    “I have to agree here. I am all for making money and doing what I can to support him and his endeavors. A happy SD will naturally be more inclined to do better and bigger things. With the right SB (one like me) he will be able to increase his cash flow. With my support my SD will do better in the long run because I understand what it takes. it takes a lot of support and the right mind set. It takes some pushing/encouraging. I want to have a sort of Business man/woman Bonnie and Clyde relationship. The “lets get money together while I fuck your brains out” type of relationship.”

    And through a relevant example provided by SouthernSB:

    “Monica seemed to do a lot for Bill’s productivity, after all he did balance the budget and managed to get the country into the black.”

    So there you have it. A great idea, with a personal testimony and a presidential example to make SDs more productive. 😉

  224. SouthernSB says:

    Hey Kms 2014 I’m in GA too!! I’m so ready for spring I can’t stand it. This winter has been too cold and too rainy and we’ve had way too much snow. If I wanted snow I would have stayed in NY or OK. I came South to escape the snow.

  225. sweetie says:

    FL. Yep, we’re sick of winter over here as well.

  226. Kms2014 says:

    I’m in GA. How about you? It has been a bad winter here this year…really rainy and cold.

  227. sweetie says:

    Where are you Kms?

  228. Kms2014 says:

    I used to teach aerobics classes and did a little personal training, on the side, while in college…I could not commit to it full-time, but worked with a girl and guy, who charged $100 plus an hour for personal training. Much of that was ‘in-home’ training. So, if they had three or four clients a day, then the money was not so bad, for a young twenty-something. Also, I knew someone who started training at retirement communities, as an independent trainer for more than $100 an hour as well. Not bad money, if you are unemployed and in-shape (:…and have the drive and motivation to get your credentials and liability insurance.

  229. Kms2014 says:

    Hi Sweetie, rainy here as well.

  230. Zack says:

    Is it a bad time to propose a referendum on on adopting the “Leaf” as the national currency? Or we could mandate a $500/hr minimum wage.

  231. DarkHorseSD says:

    ” $250 per hour per dog.”

    We need articles on how men can make more money to pay allowances and $500 date fees.

  232. sweetie says:

    Hello all! Rainy Monday here.

    Jersey – ‘Interesting that this particular post is about how women can make more money – I have some thoughts on that as I’ve recently been successful with it. ”

    When you have the time, I’d like to hear about it.

  233. Kms2014 says:

    I don’t know about paying for dog walking…but, maybe, just pay someone to take the 5 month old puppy I got last week, hehe. He is driving me batty.

  234. Josh says:

    If Brandon Wade were to develop a dog walking match-up site, say, WhatsYourDogWorth dot com then the prices would soon shoot up to $250 per hour per dog. 😉

  235. DarkHorseSD says:

    ” $25/ per hour PER DOG ”

    Must be very large dogs.

  236. flyR says:

    WALKING THE DOG

    I ran into a woman (literally) walking down the hill the beach in Santa Monica with three dogs. Turns out she is a college grad who has turned to dog walking after her finance industry job disappeared. $25/ per hour PER DOG or $75/ hour tax free for going to the beach. Her comment was that the other girls charged considerably more.

    Another makes $250/day as a nanny (degree from Smith) plus trips to London etc.

  237. Josh says:

    Seems like a lot more than 5 dogs for $200/month? Coverting that lady to SA would be a breeze. 😉

  238. DarkHorseSD says:

    ” I mean really, $200 a week for walking dogs?!”

    No, $200/month. Must be very small dogs.

  239. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    Absolutely. YOU are squarely to be blamed for that one. 😉

  240. Pleasure Thief says:

    I finally just read the actual blog article. Ok, not really. I skimmed it as I don’t want to fill my already cluttered mind with nonsense. I noticed that “start your own successful company” is not listed. Nor was, “learn to negotiate better pay,” “reach out to a mentor who is already successful in the field you are interested in,” “feed your 401k that is company matched” or “figure out a solid long-term investment plan.” I mean really, $200 a week for walking dogs?!! Really? I’d like to think that the women reading this can and deserve to start aiming a little higher.

    The one thing that I can wholeheartedly agree on is “stop buying useless sh*t,” but that’s not so much about earning more money, than it is about figuring out how to hold onto it.

  241. DarkHorseSD says:

    Josh wrote, “The string-along does “not want to rush into things” but when I told that my financial support “does not want to rush into things” until we went steady, she went off handle because it was a “slap on the face.” ”

    Oops, I’m thinking that one is my bad. 😉

  242. Jersey Darling says:

    @Josh, I’ve been just fine handsome 😉

    Many real life changes keeping me busy, all for the better. Interesting that this particular post is about how women can make more money – I have some thoughts on that as I’ve recently been successful with it. The blog looks like it’s been busy and I’ll see if I can catch up sometime this week to see what shenanigans you all are up to 😛

  243. flyR says:

    Alice – It’s always appropriate to ask questions. But ask in a friendly way.

  244. Josh says:

    Sorry for ass-u-ming that everyone knows

    WYP = WhatsYourPrice dot com

  245. aliceS says:

    Flyr I exchanged with this gentleman only 3 emails in January. Since I had no idea what reply at the moment, when he send me text Hello I’m going to be moving in your country in may. I’m looking for a local sugar baby. I told him. Sure. Let me know when you get here. And he thanked me. But 2 days ago, he send me a message, that he would like to know if I am still available and interested. I said sure. Don’t have other plans yet for may. See you then. But how stupid I am, I realized after replying, cause I don’t know anything about him. So, I wonder, how I can now ask him things I want to know, and if it’s appropriate at this point?

  246. Sugardoll says:

    Sometimes is good to ask, that way you can get an idea of how that person is, and also by a previous conversation you can get an idea if you really will have a “connection” if theres no spark during that conversation, its going to be hard to keep it going.

  247. Josh says:

    The above is pertinent to the SA girls. I ask a lot of questions off of the WYP girls. 😉 But I will be out of WYP after my credits end. It’s a royal waste of time.

  248. Josh says:

    There are not a whole lot of girls in my neck of the woods so for the local girls I try not to ask too many questions before the meeting.

  249. flyR says:

    @Alice (continued) For the SB I would also be looking for any signals that he’s a predator or even abusive.

  250. Sugardoll says:

    The funny part is when you are the only girl in a group of 10 men….lol, sadly they all got married, i keep myself single, so since the jealous wives came in, the girl of the group had to be kept apart lmao!!

  251. flyR says:

    @Alice “I have a question about, what has to be ask and/or answered before the first meeting?”

    My thought is that the purpose of the pre-meet discussion is to look for big picture positives and negatives. Avoid wasting time and perhaps the opportunity each of you has with other people.

    What’s been your prior experience with SA
    What was good what was bad
    Are our financial expectations at least in the ballpark
    I enjoy wine and stouter beverages, it’s fine if the SB does no so long as she tolerates.
    Smoking – I’ll tolerate someone who smokes but does not smoke with me but strong preference for non-smoker

    The sensors are fully deployed to detect latent anger. I’m also listening pretty carefully when she discusses why she is here.

  252. Sugardoll says:

    I like men better anyway, way less gossip and drama when you hang out with men.

    **Trueee…now we talking, i have lots of male friends, also my best friends were always males, they get kind of kinky sometimes, but nothing cant be handle…lol

  253. Josh says:

    Sting-along has now blocked me on WYP. It’s amazing how some of these ladies don’t want to “rush into things” but money has to keep flowing. 😉

  254. SouthernSB says:

    @ Josh
    Ahhhh, now I understand. She’s just being stubborn. I for one can’t stand stubborn people, as I am surrounded by Taurans. I have my mother, my daughter and my granddaugther all Taurans, all stubborn and all control freaks. Sometimes I just watch the three of them, when they are all trying to get their way…the ensuing chaos is hilarious!!

  255. Josh says:

    “I like men better anyway, way less gossip and drama when you hang out with men.”

    Seems like a reoccurring theme with some smart dames here. 😉

  256. SouthernSB says:

    My sisters are my best friends. I talk to them every couple of days on the phone because they are flung all over the country. I don’t really have any friends due to the fact that I’m an ex-army brat and moved all over the country and the world and that isn’t really conducive with making and keeping close friends and I am something of an introvert and a little bit of a geek so it’s not like I was in the cool crowd. Even when I was in my 20’s I only had a one close friend, and my sisters of course. I like men better anyway, way less gossip and drama when you hang out with men.

  257. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB

    I basically don’t take these things seriously. The reason is that I gave her various options to take care of the rent situation but her responses have been her way or highway. Also, there was NO mention of the eviction situation last night and she was pretty calm. Since last night was the M&G I dont know her at all.

    I did have a real rent situation with another young lady at the end of last month. She wanted to meet me back to back and I refused. I did give her money in advance for the next meet. I will let you know what happens to that money. 😉 She has been pretty reliable in the past though. That’s why I took a raincheck with her.

  258. SouthernSB says:

    @Josh
    Please help out the “money for nothing”. She’s got the marshal at the door ready to evict her. I’m not sure where you are or even if you live in the states, but everywhere I have lived rent is due on the first and is late on the fifth. The fact that she is saying that her rent is due in three days means that she didn’t have the rent on the first and is in a desperate situation. I’m just the type of person who doesn’t want to see a fellow human being put out on the streets so that is why I am even chiming in on this. I can’t believe she even has a phone at this point. YIKES!!

  259. Kindred Spirit says:

    Agreed (in general with many of the responses). In that, I too am an introvert that, to be perfectly frank, does not have the time or energy for many close friendships to constantly be on track with. I have some friends I consider close but only get to seeing maybe once a month or so, or every 6 months or so. We simply hang out and pick up our friendship where it left off! :) I have other friends that I have known for years but they live out of state. So facebook may be a way we “catch up”, and squeeze in the occasional meeting when trips coincide conveniently! Another aspect…is that some of my friends I may have been close to, but life changes occur which alter the continuance or fluidity of the friendship. The best example is when they started having kids. Since I am childless/childfree, whatever one wants to call it, our mutual interests start shifting…priorities and gathering ideas change. *shrug*

    As of right now, I have few, superclose friendships that I can keep up with. I’d simply ask a potential SD or romantic partner to not judge me because of that particular fact. Ya know? :)

    For me, more of my friends are male, or else couples (friends I knew before they got married). My girl friends are mostly out of state that I knew before we all moved away, and have families with kids of their own now.

    The only real time I would be a bit alarmed is if someone has ZERO friends, for a very long period of time.

  260. Josh says:

    On the other hand, hot off the press from 25 minutes ago, one of my SBs, who “eloped” 25 days ago with some xbox playing deadbeat because he had her heart just sent me a how are you and I just want to see you soon.

    I guess either her honeymoon with the deadbeat xbox player is over or the other SD did not pan out? 😉

  261. Josh says:

    I stand by my comment:

    “It seems that free money from random men has an amazing “allure” for many women.”

    And stand corrected by DarkHorseSD.

    Both string-along and money-for-nothing changed their tune from yesterday.

    The string-along does “not want to rush into things” but when I told that my financial support “does not want to rush into things” until we went steady, she went off handle because it was a “slap on the face.”

    The money-for-nothing wants did not insist on allowance for M&G last night. We had fun last night, but now she wants for double the previously agreed amount for our per meet allowance, because rent is due in 3 days.

  262. Eloquence says:

    Name one adult who is held accountable for the way their family raised them or their upbringing? Both parties could have a family in “tatters” due to choosing a differencing way of lifestyle than their families due to abuse, alcoholism, (insert negative influences here…) Which the person in question does not want to repeat in a “cycle in which” they never created from birth.

    Few friends for both? What if they constantly relocate for work? Lose touch due to focusing on business gains? What If they chose poorly once upon a time?
    Or they have a large social network, 3 close friends and every one of his close friends would bang his girlfriend behind his back and his acquaintances have more respect for him but are all superficial to “get ahead” in life? And his close friend would be the one/female who cherishes his heart when he let’s his guard down for her to win it? So many variables….

    How about the better question is….What kind of a friend will you allow him or her to be to you? Or Will each of us reciprocate the inner sanctum kind ness of the friend we want to be/have…

  263. Sugardoll says:

    Onyx

    Thats an example why some girls dont have too many girl friends… 😉

  264. onyx_percula says:

    @ Richard — I wish it was that easy. It’s more of finding out if the whole friend and for that matter family relationships are in tatters or strong or at least “normal”.

    Here is an example I ran into twice…

    One “best friend, we’re like sisters!”… only problem is their friend is just using them, there is no friendship there. Both girls turned out to be total mind fucks.

    Another that had tons of “friends” not close to them at all, turns out just about everything she told me was a lie.

    Another that had 3 close friends “back home” that she talked to several times a week, close with older sister, mother, brother and father. We were together for over 3 years.

    There are definitely going to be great girls with no close friends or family in tatters, but IME they are the outliers.

  265. Sugardoll says:

    Well I have been too much of a chicken to lay my hands on my girlfriend’s friends. 😉

    **It has happen to me couple of times, thats why i dont trust girls, i dont like being in a group of girls, and i dont have to many girl friends, so, i dont think having just 2 girl friends is a red flag, you never know the reasons.

  266. Josh says:

    Well I have been too much of a chicken to lay my hands on my girlfriend’s friends. 😉

  267. Sugardoll says:

    aliceS says:
    I have a question about, what has to be ask and/or answered before the first meeting?

    **Any previous experience as SD?
    **How did your previous arrangements worked for you?
    **Married, kids, location of the wife lol
    **Things he likes, to see what things you and him have in common, that makes you have an idea of what you can talk to him on the first date.
    **His profession, job
    **Any other active arrangement , just to know what place you going to get LOL

    Well, thats how i get all my info. 😉

  268. Sugardoll says:

    If a girl I am dating has too many girlfriends then first I will have to compete for time and second there would be too many girlfriend advice dished out to my girlfriend, which would typically be how to keep me in line.

    Mis dos centavos! lol

    **One of my experience with girls is never introduce them the person im dating until the relationship is set, or share the good things about him and never leave him alone or in company of any female. friend, close friend, or parent. Girls envy is always around, and some girls just dont care if he is their best friend bf.

  269. Sugardoll says:

    That said “only one or two” close friends is a bit of red flag. A “few” close friends seems perfectly fine to me, especially if I get the sense she keeps her circle small because she is discerning rather than desperate.

    Ok, there is a different of people you know, talk, hang out, than true friends, you cant judge a person by the quantity of friends they have, because then you will call me an antisocial which im not, Im very friendly, I do friends easily, and i can approach whomever in the street, now, when i go to a bar for drinks, you will see me alone, i dont talk to nobody and my attention is on my drink, now if you approach me i talk to you, but dont pretend i will be all nite listening to all your BS or that i have to ask for permission everytime i want to step away just because you personally decide to pay my drinks, (i didnt ask you, i was there by myself and with my money lol ) and im like that everywhere i go, I dont get too close to a person until i feel comfortable, and if i dont feel you are a trusteable person, dont pretend to be a close friend. which i dont have a lot either cuz of bad experiences trusting in them believing they were true friends.

  270. Josh says:

    AliceS

    My answer starts with the dreaded, it depends…

    It may depend on whether the first meeting is local, long distance or international. It may depend on men v. women. It may depend on the experience levels of the SB and/or SD.
    It may also depend on bad experiences of the SB and/or SD.

  271. Josh says:

    If a girl I am dating has too many girlfriends then first I will have to compete for time and second there would be too many girlfriend advice dished out to my girlfriend, which would typically be how to keep me in line. Just my two cents. 😉

  272. aliceS says:

    I have a question about, what has to be ask and/or answered before the first meeting?

  273. DarkHorseSD says:

    OP wrote, ” “So do you have a lot of good friends?””

    This is very true…I can confirm from lots of experience over the years.

    It’s also a general flaw of Internet socialization. If people had more friends to begin with, they would be less likely to use the Internet to meet people.

  274. Richard says:

    @Onyx – Agree to an extent. I happen to like, women that are more introverted, which can often accompany an artistic talent. As more of an introvert myself, it’s sometimes nice to find someone similar. I’m not at all interested in going to bars or clubs and drinking with a bunch of people, acquaintances or not.

    That said “only one or two” close friends is a bit of red flag. A “few” close friends seems perfectly fine to me, especially if I get the sense she keeps her circle small because she is discerning rather than desperate.

    An interesting topic, for sure! What about women that tend to have mostly male friends rather than female? ^ ^

  275. flyR says:

    No shark as Onyx is a great resource

    My friendly amendment would but the SB who does not relate well to her peers as she is more mature in her interests and often substantially more intelligent.

  276. Jj says:

    Do do do do do ….Onyx, looks like the sharks are circling!!!!

  277. Kindred Spirit says:

    Onyx, what is your definition of a “good friend” in the context you have just written (the degree of closeness, the frequency you spend time with them, the type and amount of communication, etc.) that a person should have more than a few of??

    I will await your answer before I post my views, biases, and judgements regarding that original post. Just seeking clarification first. Thanks! :)

  278. onyx_percula says:

    @ DarkHorseSD et al — Ref spotting trouble SBs before they become SBs…

    A screening question; “So do you have a lot of good friends?”

    Any answer is fine except one that says she has few and has a hard time making or keeping friends. I think the older the SB the less likely this is to be an indicator of trouble. But for a 18 to mid/late 20’s girl, it should be a huge red flag.

    The idea being that if she can’t make and maintain friendships at an age when girls tend to have large social circles there is a reason which is most likely summed up as she has shown them what is wrong with her and they don’t want anything to do with her.

    If I look back over the last year and half of SBs I have interacted with, every single one that only has one or two close firends, they were a problem to one degree or another.

  279. Sugardoll says:

    @FlyR
    You might create a somewhat standard reply to initial contacts that asks they to reconfirm that they have read and understood two or three key points of what’s important to you. Make it clear that the first meeting is a meet only (if that’s what you want) .

    **Yes, they know that so far, my profile isnt long, is short and clear and it says exactly what im looking for, and what theyr getting.

    **If its visual, then i understand they see my pictures and go straight to msg me…lol (then i dont blame them)

  280. Josh says:

    @Niks

    As I said above if you want SDs who post here–myself and others– to comment on your profile then you can either provide your profile number here or privately thru email.

    Again best of success in the sugar world and fell free to ask any questions you may have along the way.

    The next biggies would be how to decide if an SD is trustworthy and how to effectively negotiate allowance. 😉

  281. Niks says:

    @Josh

    Thank you!! This helped a lot :)

  282. aliceS says:

    Good evening everyone :)

  283. flyR says:

    @ sugardoll

    Men are visual

    We have created a universe of people who don’t read. If you deliver something in a plain white box with only a simple message “open other end” 49% of the population will open the wrong end.

    You might create a somewhat standard reply to initial contacts that asks they to reconfirm that they have read and understood two or three key points of what’s important to you. Make it clear that the first meeting is a meet only (if that’s what you want) .

  284. Josh says:

    @flyR

    “My suggestion to SA is that they stick to the sugar arena and avoid macro-economics and politics.”

    I would say that the reference has to do with creating a straw man/Aunt Sally and then knocking them down with SA as a value proposition. 😉

  285. Sugardoll says:

    Actually i dont think its a profile issue, i dont believe all SD’s read the profiles, cuz some of those who has contacted me if they read it before, im pretty sure they will know what im looking cuz its pretty clear.

    They actually dont approach me with sex msgs, they get naughty when we go to phone text, and heres one of my issues,

    1 POT, after a few days texting, he start asking me if i like certain sex positions, which i didnt have any problem to that point, i stop the conversation when he started asking me if i will allow him to do some things to me…wtf.. you dont even take me on the first date…so never text again.

    2 POT after several days of texting, finally set up our first date, he tells me ok, so i text you later to tell you the name and number of the motel, i replied .. WHAT?? he laugh, so i decide to pick he place by my own, hour set, date confirmed, but he never texted me again.

  286. flyR says:

    Rare bit of intel from SA in the never read lead-in to this topic. My guess it that it reflects some wisdom of a topic where they have the data; but stands as a graphic exhibit of that of which they know nothing(gender income equality) .

    “We can sit here and wait until legislation is passed that will magically diminish the “wage gap”, or reform the executive ladder. Or you can follow some of these tips that can add upwards of $10k to your annual salary.”

    The $10K number probably comes from some research. It’s far below the other hints that $40-60K sugar allowances were common. Naturally it has something do to with geography and a LOT to do with the SB.

    My guess is that someone following the sugar route for say 4 years would only have an active SD for 3 of those years and perhaps closer to 2, due to turnover and search time. This is assuming the SB did not keep a spare SD or two on the farm team.

    Wandering a bit afar from SA, the leadin text to this topic suggests that government can cure the income gap.

    I think the argument for it is “If you like your job you can keep it”.

    We’ve seen how well that worked.

    One of the great benefits of the internet world is that outside of the sugar arena, people are judged by the quality of their content as gender, race, religion, national origin and politics are invisible, unless they choose to make it an issue. I

    My suggestion to SA is that they stick to the sugar arena and avoid macro-economics and politics.

  287. DarkHorseSD says:

    Also for some one weirdo becomes their whole outlook while others just glide to the next interested man.

  288. DarkHorseSD says:

    I haven’t been around weirdos, but people learn and adapt, so I imagine they have their techniques.

  289. DarkHorseSD says:

    SBs’ messages I’ve seen personally have had few perversions. Also after meeting it hasn’t been that bad.

    Other SBs I’ve only known have told me there are many weirdos or that there aren’t that many weirdos.

    So I think some types somehow attract weirdos.

  290. Josh says:

    I am extremely curious why many SBs report that they are getting a lot of “weirdos” to contact them.

    The reason I am curious is that I have been monitoring an SB’s account for exactly 26 days now. Close to 50 inquiries have been received and only one came close to being “weird” (from California… 😉 ) He wanted a 10-minute nude show for $100. Even he backed off and apologized 2 messages later.

    Almost 20% are SA Winks so nothing weird there.

    The rest of them are simple 5-word inquires to long descriptive messages.

    So I am curious if:

    1. Those weirdos are concentrated in some geographical locations, and the SBs would fare better if they physically moved somewhere else.

    2. They are contacting certain SBs because they see something in their profiles to exploit.

    The reason I am curious about items in the profile is because the SB profile I am monitoring is extremely simple. That is, one sentence in her description and one sentence in “Arrangement I am Seeking.”

  291. Sugardoll says:

    “I don’t deal with escorts or anyone who “acts” like one. I am looking for a respectable and respectful woman to spend quality time with.”

    **I think i will have to relocate, cuz maybe due to we are in USA or theres a lot of SB’s and SD’s in here, seems most of SB’s are acting like Scorts, cuz i cant tell how many SD’s i had cut them lose by approaching me just for sex, i hate it..

  292. Josh says:

    Hello Jersey Darling.

    How have you been sweetheart? :)

  293. Josh says:

    “@Pleasure Thief says:

    @Onyx
    I noticed as I was scrolling that your name was a link. I’m finding your blog very entertaining! :)”

    I agree. And that b&w pic is so damn hot. 😉

  294. Josh says:

    @flyR

    “At the risk of triggering wrath from the 4 corners of sugarland my experience is that many potential SB’s want to distance themselves from their Industrial Debutante fellow females”

    I picked up this from a fellow SD, which I have started including in my communication that goes something to the effect:

    “I don’t deal with escorts or anyone who “acts” like one. I am looking for a respectable and respectful woman to spend quality time with.”

    So if it is an escort on the other side, she would either go the other way, or up her game. But if it is not an escort then she may be at ease.

    That said, I find it interesting when obvious non-escorts state, “I don’t want to be ripped off.”

    The logical follow-up question for them is:

    Sweetheart, if you have not done it as a profession, and you don’t intend to do it either, then what is your reference point to see if you are getting ripped off or not? 😉

  295. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    True. However, if I had gotten involved with her it would have been strictly P4P.

    But I totally agree with you. Even though I avoid both, me thinks that one may be better off with escort than a stripper, by a loooooong shot. 😉

  296. DarkHorseSD says:

    Josh, you never actually got involved with her? It’s just what she told you etc…

    We mourn what might have been because none of the bad stuff occurs in those “relationships.”

  297. Jersey Darling says:

    Haven’t been to the blog in a while but seeing the name Pleasure Thief posting makes me want to catch up.

  298. Jj says:

    Aah Pleasure, indeed. Just maybe a Pot to be!!?

  299. onyx_percula says:

    @ DarkHorseSD — Some but I never did see anything last very long unless he was just as fucked up as she was. It was pretty common to see the flavor of the week/month with them though.

  300. Josh says:

    @Niks

    The safest bet is to talk about his profile. If you want to talk about you then write the kinds of thing you like to do that involves a man ( not an ATM). Let him visualize doing those things with you.

    Refrain from talking about:

    1. How he should spoil you.

    2. Any negative about yourself, even as to how mew you are and how you have no clue what to write him.

    That should be a good start. If you want SDs to look at your profile then we can help you as well.

    Best of success in the sugar world!

  301. Sugardoll says:

    “Really? You were born in 19–? Unbelievable.” These days, he looks at my ID, looks at me, looks at my ID, and says, “Tell me, what’s your secret?”

    **uhhhgg…that situation is so annoying that why ive been forced to lie about my age IRL, still my SD’s tells me i look in my late 20’s, oh well..

    @Elaine
    I haven’t thought about the younger SD angle, but that’s a great idea! I would love to hear more!

    **I miss this, what it is about?

  302. Pleasure Thief says:

    @Onyx
    I noticed as I was scrolling that your name was a link. I’m finding your blog very entertaining! :)

  303. Pleasure Thief says:

    @Jj – It’s not the mixologist who tells the truth, but rather the bouncer outside. In my 20s, he would say, “Where did you buy this ID? Who gave it to you? Are you in high school? What’s your zodiac sign? I need to see another picture ID and a credit card.” In my 30s, his eyes would get very wide and say, “Really? You were born in 19–? Unbelievable.” These days, he looks at my ID, looks at me, looks at my ID, and says, “Tell me, what’s your secret?”

    @Elaine
    I haven’t thought about the younger SD angle, but that’s a great idea! I would love to hear more!

    Regarding age on the profile. I put a younger age so I can show up in the searches. I disclose that I am older fairly early on. It’s too hard for me to lie long terms because my timeline won’t make any sense and then I just feel foolish.

  304. Niks says:

    Hiiii :) Ok so I’m very new to this website, and I am so clueless about everything. I’m just so nervous. I don’t even know what to write in my first email to an SD. I’ve read all the Sugar Dating Tips blog entries, and I’m really determined to get involved in this lifestyle, but I really just don’t know where to begin. Please help!

  305. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    Maybe I missed-understood your question. I was not looking to get “serious” with her IRL and neither was she. The extent of her interest in me and my lack there of was limited to sugar.

  306. Josh says:

    All in all it was a great day in the sugar world. Both WYP’s string-along and the money-for-nothing turned up with good potential. I can give details of anyone shows interest otherwise, we will just move right along. 😉

  307. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    “Did category 2 women ever get serious with men they met as customers?”

    One did with me because she was sick of what the job entailed and was all over me to become her SD. She even used to call me daddy. 😉 She had another SD whom she had extracted a lot of money from without allegedly being intimate with him. And yes he offered her to buy a car for her if she moved in with him.

    However, she wanted me to be her SD at a much lower price point but I was not looking for SB at that time. What a stupid mistake I made. :(

  308. DarkHorseSD says:

    Did category 2 women ever get serious with men they met as customers?

  309. onyx_percula says:

    Ref Strippers — Having met a few hundred working security, and later in life meeting many going to the “comedy” club (I enjoy watching the guys that think that wad of $1’s going in get G-string is going to get them access to it too.). When I say meet, I don’t mean as a “customer” but as an insider, aka the treatment and openness is MUCH different.

    While everyone is their own person, most would fit into one of two groupings. 1) Fucked up! Abuse victims, drugs/drink, BF/Pimp problems, mental illness, physical illness. 2) Not fucked up! Smart, hard working, not doing anything stupid, polite and nice people that I would and did in one case take home to meet the family over Thanksgiving.

    The vast majority would fit in group #1 only a handful in #2 (:

    Reminds me of one of those, “you having to be kidding” moments… I dated a girl for a couple of years. So I’m working Monday night at the club and in she walks, her hair is different than she had kept. I was surprised to see her there to dance, but hey its her life. I walked over and gave her a big hug… WHAM knee in the balls! She is freaking out… “Who the fuck is this!” and I’m like “Dawn it’s me! WTF is wrong with you!”… “My name is NOT Dawn you fucking perv!”… Nope it wasn’t Dawn, it was Shawn… Dawn’s identical twin sister that was adopted by a different couple at birth than Dawn was. Neither knew about the other till that week.

    @ newsdmidwest — Yep just talk to her. Keep it sexy. Women get subtle and not so subtle hints unlike men. Let her know you are ready and she will let you know when she is too.

  310. flyR says:

    I did not mean to infer in the prior all strippers are hookers.

  311. flyR says:

    @newSD “She was not escorting but I was curious about other sd experiences with strippers” “not escorting” is like the clintonian definition of alone or sex.

    At the risk of triggering wrath from the 4 corners of sugarland my experience is that many potential SB’s want to distance themselves from their Industrial Debutante fellow females and may express more conservatism that is reality regarding first meeting POF. My recommendation is to neither press or step back, but rather hold in place and give her the space to make a decision based on her judgement of you rather than what she thinks she should be saying.

    I have a “rule” that’s shared when appropriate….. “”I understand that you may have had some bad experiences and I’ll gladly grant you some space; but I’m not willing to be punished for your prior bad judgement””.

  312. DarkHorseSD says:

    I’ve never met a stripper that could be redeemed. Basically this is just another form of getting money off guys, so if what little she does for you is enough for you, only then proceed.

  313. newsdmidwest says:

    @onyx_percula and others. Thanks for the advice.

    I am not looking for weekly initimacy. Probably once or twice a month. We both agreed that we were not looking for one night stands. She had a bad experience with a potential sd who offered her money to sleep with him on the first night. I am going to communicate with her face to face and see if she has any additional concerns. We get along pretty good and I want to keep things going in the right direction.

    On another note. I had a meeting before this one with a potential sb. She was a stripper. I had reservations as I believe that strippers are obviously only after the money. She was not escorting but I was curious about other sd experiences with strippers who were potential sugar babies. I believe that I made the right decimation to turn her away.

  314. Josh says:

    @Onyx – very thoughtful posts. 😉

    The one on psychopaths wad a good complement to DarkHorseSD’s post. Me thinks that the one on allowance is more SB-leaning than the reality on the ground.

    Unless one of the other SDs expands further, i may I may write to expand the response.

  315. Sugardoll says:

    hey kitty….. 😉

  316. KatPaw says:

    Meow sugarland..

  317. flyR says:

    KMS My guess is that there are even more surprises.

    @Onyx – very thoughtful post ( some hundred or so posts ago)

    Nice to see the discussion wandering back towards what makes sugar sweeter for both…..

  318. Kms2014 says:

    @flyr, looks like that plane flew off to ‘perhaps land’ somewhere else..so, I guess your theories were not so crazy, after all 😉

  319. Josh says:

    @flyR

    I have enjoyed reading past few of your messages. Common ground? 😉

  320. flyR says:

    “There’s no product on earth other than oxygen that’s had more enduring demand than the allure of a woman.”

    While the note that this may exclude gay men, my sense is that there are more women wanting to make love to a woman than men wanting to have sex with other men, the popular press notwithstanding. It’s a tribute to women’s good judgement.

    Someone in the industry with substantial credentials (design of women’s clothing) noted that a straight male designer like Richard Tyler uses the design to best display the woman’s charm while the gay designer is more likely to use the woman to best display his design. It’s a fundamental black and white approach to the issue.

  321. DarkHorseSD says:

    I have empirical data but refuse to share. Proprietary techniques.

    Good, don’t rush spending money on her lest you offend her with your forwardness.

  322. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD. I know right. LOL!

    I am heading to meet the string-along right now. Do you have any empirical data to share. She does “not want to rush into things.” 😉

  323. DarkHorseSD says:

    Josh, sounds like you are collecting empirical evidence on who not to get involved with.

  324. Sugardoll says:

    @Josh

    i was just saying from my point of view, remember we all different people and read and see things from different perspectives 😉

  325. Josh says:

    Hmmm,

    I did not say that if a straight man designs for women, that cause him to be gay.

    My statement was more of a matter of fact statement observing that a good number of openly gay men are very successful designers of female fashion products.

  326. Sugardoll says:

    Josh says:
    Aren’t many (a good number of?) designers for female fashion products gay? Wouldn’t it be difficult to just mechanically create such products without feeling it and help enhance it?

    **this question is kind of irrelevant, mi amor, its true most much of the female fashion designers are gay, but by the fact that a straight male designs female clothes does not necessarily means he is gay, if we base on what people say then, Architects, are gays, publicity and advertising creators, are crazy (that was my career, and yes you have to be crazy to come out with some ideas) lol, scientists are also crazy, philosophers are nerds, journalists are lazy, and the list keeps going…

  327. Kms2014 says:

    It was a joke 😉

  328. Josh says:

    Aren’t many (a good number of?) designers for female fashion products gay? Wouldn’t it be difficult to just mechanically create such products without feeling it and help enhance it?

  329. Sugardoll says:

    Kms2014 says:
    “There’s no product on earth other than oxygen that’s had more enduring demand than the allure of a woman”.

    Hmm, unless you are gay male…then, not so much…

    ***Indeed, but also gay guys appreciate it sometimes more than a regular male

  330. Kms2014 says:

    “There’s no product on earth other than oxygen that’s had more enduring demand than the allure of a woman”.

    Hmm, unless you are gay male…then, not so much…

  331. Josh says:

    I do have a couple I working on right now. One of them kept insisting on getting allowance for M&G, which I refused. She keeps pinging me once in a while and we “may” go out tonight because she sent me a “proposal” out of the blue that she would not mind going to a date with me as long as _____. She is bringing a friend along. Both of them are super hot. Let’s see IF she shows up to the date.

    My strategy to cut down on non-shows has been to text them around 9-10 AM on the morning of the date, and then again right before I leave home. If there is no response. I don’t go.

    The other one is the string-along from WhatsYourPrice. This is the one who keeps asking for money to enable her to meet me, and my pitch to her has been to meet me and then I will take care of her needs.

    Flyr wrote earlier and I agree that “There’s no product on earth other than oxygen that’s had more enduring demand than the allure of a woman.”

    It seems that free money from random men has an amazing “allure” for many women. LOL!

  332. Josh says:

    @UglyMofoSD

    Thanks for your kind words of support and valuable advise.

    I did meet a lot of SBs in the past several weeks, and gained a lot of real world arrangement experience.

    However, the FB situation is very conducive to “one bush in hand is better than…” so I have not been super-active chasing bushes lately.

  333. Kms2014 says:

    @JJ..that is true…but age appearance is so subjective. I have gotten quite a range from both male and female strangers(many ask because my son is so tall). So, I think it just depends. I do not think there is a need to lie about age, really…Like some SD have mentioned on blog–there is a market for women who are older, as so many lie about their age, on SA, so that equates to fewer 30’s and 40’s.

  334. Sugardoll says:

    i dont see why people need to lie about their age, well unless it will cause that person go crazy, and dont trust me, which is my case… Age is just a number, thats what it is just for me, so i dont go by a range of age, but definitely consider it when it goes up to 45 lol..

  335. Jj says:

    ps: It is the blatant lies that causes difficulties; not the fibs. Just say’n

  336. Jj says:

    Ladies, ladies: There is not a guy on this earth who does not expect a woman to be concerned of her age. Richard posed a great testament to the male persona and that subconsciously the age factor had been factored within the search criteria!!

    Do not ask your girlfriends to suggest your age appearance; they lie!! Go to a couple of your favorite bars and incorporate into a conversation with an age appropriate mixologist to get a take on what he thinks and the gents nearby as well. You girls know the drill in how to get a conversation steered to you liking.

  337. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    By the way, I was a late starter and my first real sexual encounter was with a woman in her her 30s or 40s. I really don’t recall how old she was as it was more of a one night stand. I was in early 20s. Keep in mind that in those days I used to think that 27 year-old was an “older” woman. I guess she left me because she thought of me as a “boy.” LOL!

    Over the years I have had romantic encounters with women in high teens to 40s. I have not been intimate with anyone in her 50s yet. Age DOES NOT matter from the point of view of real intimacy and fun time together.

    THAT said, me thinks that the search filters for 20-somethings has a lot to do with men’s nostalgia of their life in 20s–when they did date 20-somethings IRL–than anything else.

  338. UglyMofoSD says:

    @Josh

    Thank you for your service in ridding the blog of bad influences and trying to reach out to new SB’s. The side effect is that there are more posts by Zack and SunshineSD.

    Spend more time meeting SB’s and less time posting on the blog, you will be able to provide much better advise with more real world experience.

  339. Kms2014 says:

    @Elaine…I could not agree more with what you said!

    I prefer to hear: “Hey, you don’t look your age”, to someone obviously thinking : omg you look 10 years older as you said you were.

    I actually had a discussion about this on the blog last year. I had wondered about the age thing(due to the SD search parameters, as Richard stated). Not that I am ashamed of my age, but I think it is true that many will just not look at certain age ranges.

  340. Elaine says:

    @ Richard and Josh,

    So good to see that -if even for once- I made you guys agree upon a subject! 😉
    I reality I was only joking a little about the age subject :-)

    I would never lie ( too much 😉 ) about my age, would be too afraid it would be discovered! OMG, I would die of embarrasment when my lie would be found out!!

    And since my arrangements are all long term, sooner or later it WOULD come out…. brrrrrr

    I prefer to hear: “Hey, you don’t look your age”, to someone obviously thinking : omg you look 10 years older as you said you were.
    :-(

  341. Sugardoll says:

    To all those who use my name to fight against others:

    I came to this blog to look for advices, not to find my armor hero to defend me, I have always been polite and respectful, ive always respected everyone opinion cuz i understand everybody have a different perspective, but please for those who are lack of respect and self esteem, please based your anger on your own experiences without using me, all of you can clearly see on my post i have never insulted or been disrespectful with any of you, so i ask the same in return. if some of you have a personal issues or dont like somebody else, dont make me part of your situation, if you dont know how to attack someone without using others (Zack) yes, cuz i dont speak on nobodies back, please keep me away from that, i know how to speak, read and defend myself by my own.

  342. Kms2014 says:

    @Zack…if only. I have to wonder how unhealthy it is for a this person to be on a blog(s) all day and night…when do they work, exercise or have time for any relations with womenfolk…?? 😉

  343. Zack says:

    “@ Josh, didn’t you agree to limit the percent of your posts per blog? Nm, I must be wrong.”

    Yes you are wrong. 😉
    ——–
    Thanks for clarifying. I was pretty certain that was what you said. 😛

    //www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUnqbBgYZmI

  344. onyx_percula says:

    @ newsdmidwest — It sounds like you have only had half the conversation around allowance, the second is what you are facing.

    First the monthly allowance is all well and fine, BUT it does have some significant disadvantages in the beginning of a arrangement. If you give her a months allowance with the expectation of meeting say once a week and those meetings to be intimate, then she is going to feel pressure to perform. As another poster commented this often makes her feel a lot of pressure and like a escort. It’s going to make you worried to one degree or another if she is going to take the money and run.

    What happens if you give her a months allowance and you have sex. She absolutely HATES it. Now what? Or you HATE it, now what?

    What a lot of sugars are opting for lately is a P4P allowance, aka per meeting, at least until the relationship is well established. The down side is its a little like paying an escort, but this can be minimized by carefully taking this into consideration when actually giving it to her. But it pretty much kills the issues with a monthly allowance, either of you HATE the physical there is no obligation. No pressure for future performance or fear of hit and run. I have suggested to others and do so myself give double the normal on the first intimate encounter. She seeks security and reliability, this will give her some sense you are going to hit and run on her. If it doesn’t work out or you bail at least she will have an amount in hand that shouldn’t at least leave her feeling like a _cheap_ whore.

    Remember a couple of things as you go into the sugar bowl… 1) these are real relationships regardless of how limited or bounded. The same processes apply as per you and her. 2) Communicate! If you two can’t talk to each other in a open and honest manner, that is a major red flag! 3) You both are taking a risk, you losing assets and her self image. Sooner or later both of you have to take a deep breath and take the risk, give some trust and hope its rewarded and not misused.

  345. Sugardoll says:

    Zack says:
    @Alice… I at least was using you as an incendiary to prod Josh.

    **When you really want to give an advice to someone you give an advice, with a strong based reasonable true, if you come telling us Josh is using “Us” and you are also using “Us” to prod Josh, how can you blame someone of doing something when you doing the same thing..? with that you become the same kind of people of worst than Josh,

    If you have your personal problems with Josh, please dont make me part of your inner demons to feed your anger against him, people usually do that when they dont know what to do so they relay on others to harm the rest.

    Josh insulted you with the “wine” line…the homophone is “Whine.” His disdain shows in his next post, to SDoll, pejoratively linking her to a bitch.

    **Again, this is not your problem, you are doing things all wrong,if josh is using us you have to use your words against him, not against us, you say he was linking me to a bitch, i have never seen that post where he particularly did that, so please, dont use my name or my person, to find a reason to go against Josh if you dont have an original reason but jealously and you dont find how to deal with it, please dont use me (which i see you are the one putting things backwards to go against josh) you keep all the time telling me to be aware of him, but never give me a reason, even if i asked you, so that makes me believe you dont have one so please, dont come on my defense, As i told Sugary once, we all know how to take care bout ourselves!! If Josh is using me, as you say, just let me personally find out about my mistake, which again its not your problem

  346. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    I agree with Richard (surprise, surprise? 😉 ) about woman’s age is how she looks and feels.

    However, you need to keep certain technicality in mind. That is, in shorter term arrangements one can get away with a lot. However, if you are seeking a longer term arrangement then the age will come up somehow, which could be awkward.

    So you need to evaluate the pros and cons of the two approaches accordingly.

    And men never lie about their age. If you believe that…;)

  347. Richard says:

    @Elaine – I happen to believe that a women’s age is her prerogative (meaning she can choose any age she likes!). If your photos are recent and accurate, the actual age shouldn’t matter.

    Many men (and women) on SA will search using a certain age range, often without thinking too much about it. I think I use 39 as an upper bound, for example, but when I actually think about it, I’m not opposed to someone older than that. For that reason, putting your age above 39 will exclude you from many searches.

    If everyone was more thoughtful about their search parameters, it wouldn’t matter. But that applies to many things (eBay wouldn’t work very well if we were all logical, for example).

  348. Josh says:

    @Zack

    “@ Josh, didn’t you agree to limit the percent of your posts per blog? Nm, I must be wrong.”

    Yes you are wrong. 😉

  349. KatPaw says:

    Purrrrrrrrr
    Morning sugars! Hope all are having a wonderful Saturday!

  350. Elaine says:

    @ Richard

    Since it is near to my birthday I think my profile age needs a little downward adjustment, any advice? 😉

  351. Elaine says:

    @ Southern SB

    You will experience something amazing when you make a new profile…

    Most 50+/60+ and (even 70+) SD’s will find you far too old!
    But the 20+ and 30+ ones will find you madly attractive! :-)

    I am talking out of experience, I am in my forties myself and have no problems whatsover to find high quality SD’s.

    Just choose the right target and make your profile appealing to them.
    If your profile is right you will get few messages, but mostly the right and serious ones!

    Our big luck is that we are not the target of fakes and Johns, so much less crap to weed out!

    If you need help just let me know :-)

    Succes!

  352. aliceS says:

    So its turn for my little update. Since i need a visa to Australia my SD proposed a vacation together at Bali. So we can reassure, that we are the ones we are looking for. And if that spark of connection will still be there, after the meeting in real life.

  353. Zack says:

    @ Josh, didn’t you agree to limit the percent of your posts per blog? Nm, I must be wrong.

    //www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug75diEyiA0

  354. Pleasure Thief says:

    @newsdmidwest – I can only answer as a SB. No one wants to feel cornered or pressured. Don’t make her feel that because you gave her an allowance, she now owes you sex. It makes us feel hookerish, pressured, and uncomfortable. If that is how you are going to feel, then maybe it’s better to hold off on giving the allowance. I don’t know your SB’s situation, so I can’t say how she is going to feel. I am only talking about my own stance on the matter. I like to look at the long term rather than, “how much can I milk out of this guy before I scare him off.” Some blog SDs back in the day had recommended that if you each know you want an arrangement and have agreed to the terms, give 1/2 a month the first time, and then move to a full allowance once you have established trust. My SD and I went out for a very long time before we had an arrangement in place. We would just go on dates, get to know each other, and he would always present gifts with hidden cash inside. It helped to build trust, as I knew he was good for it yet didn’t feel pressure to go to bed with him.

    @SouthernSB – I am in a similar situation age-wise. SBs in our age range appeal to a very small niche on SA, but they are out there. Usually, they say, “There are so few women your age on here, so I’m really happy to have found you.” I agree with Flyr’s sentiments that if you are a well aged 40-something, men will still find you attractive, and often more attractive than an out of shape 20 year old.

  355. Josh says:

    @Zack:

    “Josh insulted you with the “wine” line…the homophone is “Whine.” His disdain shows in his next post, to SDoll, pejoratively linking her to a bitch.”

    WTF is wrong with you man? Why would I use anything pejorative against Sugardoll AT ALL. WHY, WHY, WHY? Give me one reason why?

    All of us know that you are reading comprehension challenged as well as writing challenged. So get your posted edited by someone who can make some sense out out them.

    I just fail to understand why are you constantly insulting these two very sweet ladies because you have a beef with me?

  356. Josh says:

    @SunShineSD

    Oh that’s what you were trying to say? Why didn’t you say so earlier? 😉

  357. Zack says:

    @Alice…calmer, please, and breathe. When I wrote that, I at least was using you as an incendiary to prod Josh. Please accept my apologies, but read some haulmarks of truth…there are others, but note the @ SS…for Sugary (let’s not get needlessly Messianic, dear?). Also, the rest of the paragraph…basically just saying the same thing three times. Please relax and realize I may not be the only one using you.

    Josh insulted you with the “wine” line…the homophone is “Whine.” His disdain shows in his next post, to SDoll, pejoratively linking her to a bitch. And you two ladies really have been the only thing fueling his little pocket rocket lately.

    So…(sorry, heartsick, and difficult to write, thinking of Eleq…hello Mr. blue sky) why? Josh will not honor anyone but himself, presently, when pressed. So he has his own words to honor and bind him, at least. I can argue frills about understanding and double down and such, but who cares? It was a language he felt and heard…

    So, I’m done with reading comprehension for now, sweetie. I have my own drama, and it levees me sensitive and sometimes broken.
    //www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXn2QVipK2o

    Josh…thank you for playing “What’s YOUR Price?”

    @ ugly mofo, but still the same inside…(muah—-ahah!)…sorry, that was just the “Version…” but thanks for catching it?

    btw, Alice, I almost had to bow out even earlier when you picked up on the cork bit, but then…tsk, such vinegar. Admirable, but counter-productive…and it shows.

    600 Quatloos for the Tellarite?

    Feeling alienated, Josh? Do you feel you may be percieved as insensitive sometimes? 😛 How about dis-ingenue-s? Baited? Why…really…you should be honest about what you’re proving to whim.

    //www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHnYe5Nj0F0

  358. SunShineSD says:

    @Josh – “What does all that mean?”

    Outside preteen school yards and forums occupied by jobless guys living in their moms’ basements, people don’t usually make threats with “will be responded to.” Grown men don’t care about verbal abuses. Grown men make threats by having Constable serving legal papers, cutting objects of distaste off the payroll, or giving the objectionables just enough ropes to hang themselves. Men of substance don’t threat to verbally abuse another person; they give a tirade when called for, and most of the time they don’t . . . because they understand another grown man doesn’t care much about verbal abuses either, much less the threat thereof.

    Catfishing at the end of every month before rents due has its market niche, especially for players on small budget trying to save some money compared to the cost of hiring pros off the backpage ads. I doubt that kind of interaction really makes your SB’s happy and want to spend time with you. Nor do I think that sort of dynamics attract new SB’s to the sugaring world.

  359. Josh says:

    @sweetie

    “It’s not that you retaliate, it’s how you do it, Josh.”

    EXACTLY my point, sweetie. When people know “how” I retaliate then why mess with me to start off with? Just ignore my posts. I exercise my First Amendment and others do the same. 😉

  360. sweetie says:

    Josh – “Suit yourself. And the reality is that some/many people do like me. Since you are partial, don’t pretend to be impartial. Think before taking potshots at me individually or in a group setting. And don’t complain when/if I retaliate.”

    There’s nothing impartial about me saying I’m not fond of you. Quite the opposite, no pretending here. It has nothing to do with how many people like you/dislike you, it’s irrelevant, but that does not take away the reality of those facts. It’s not that you retaliate, it’s how you do it, Josh. Let’s not forget your big entrance on the blog was talking shit about women and when we retaliated you weren’t particularly pleasant. With all that said, I think I have been civil towards you.

  361. aliceS says:

    Zack I think you need to think what are you trying to do here. You tried to insult me with this “a liceS”? Really?? You must be a real gentleman. How nice of you. I didn’t offend you or tried to mix you in any way. So I think it is far, then inappropriate for you to use such to feel better. And look I don’t know smarter?? Just because I have a different point of view then you, and I don’t use fluent English doesn’t mean I will let you insulting me. Who gives you that right? Why you wasn’t so brave to say it to me in private, as you often do with some not important things. I think you need to follow the crowd to feel good. What a shame. I didn’t expect that from you. No need to reply to this, I don’t have any desire read from you anymore. It’s pathetic what you did!! Only coward would do so.

  362. Josh says:

    @SunShineSD

    Don’t go all Zack on me man. What does all that mean?

  363. Josh says:

    @sweetie:

    “And here we go, the insults come out.”

    Those are your insults against me. 😉

    “Reality is, many people on the blog don’t like you. It has been said plenty times. I subscribe to that.”

    Suit yourself. And the reality is that some/many people do like me. Since you are partial, don’t pretend to be impartial. Think before taking potshots at me individually or in a group setting. And don’t complain when/if I retaliate.

    Adios!

  364. SunShineSD says:

    “Anyone who takes potshots before earning my respect will be responded to.”

    Someone must be bored in the middle of the month waiting for the easy prey to fall to the bottom of the pond near the end of the month, when rents are due.

    I do appreciate your effort jawboning down the market clearing price, so to speak. However, don’t you think making sugaring world too trashy might just drive away the higher quality potential SB’s with higher self-esteem?

  365. sweetie says:

    And here we go, the insults come out.
    You can’t expect to say whatever without people reacting to it. So, a little poke here and there should be understood and not to fret about. Reality is, many people on the blog don’t like you. It has been said plenty times. I subscribe to that. Not to mention all those muahs and whatever euphemisms, when you clearly were giving me/others the finger.
    As you say, First Amendment, right? I plead the same.

  366. Josh says:

    Small technical disclaimer though.

    “Some” of them are bitches. 😉

  367. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    “Women are like wine ;)”

    Absolutely!

  368. Sugardoll says:

    @ Sdoll, a liceS….who died and made you Blog?!!

    ***Nobody has died YET, but i have seen some BIG ONES falling, Be careful..!

    xoxo 😉

  369. Josh says:

    @sweetie

    As a matter of fact you have been wishing me to leave for a long time. I have been pretty nice to you because I don’t think that you mean ill. You seem to say these as part of “group dynamics”

    “Josh, why are you here?”

    “Josh, give it a rest, man! You have no idea what you’re talking about.”

    “You’re the most obnoxious character on this blog, so I can’t help myself anymore”

    “Ah! Beck is back! The scorn, the inconsistencies, the derision!” Please make him disappear!

    Yes, but this Beck is all over Jersey…”

  370. sweetie says:

    Josh – “And why is the party ALWAYS at my expense dear?;)”

    Because you like it that way, you’re the life of the party. This is Josh’s blog after all, isn’t it? Wink.

  371. UglyMofoSD says:

    flyr is another “real” SD who advocates lying on a SB profile. At least that is what I think he wrote. I think he is on drugs most of the time.

  372. aliceS says:

    But returning to normal topics
    Southern SB I think you should create a profile. No need to lie. Or invent some crazy numbers. Women are like wine 😉

  373. Josh says:

    @sweetie

    Check this out:

    “RSD says:
    February 16, 2014 at 3:18 pm
    I know everyone enjoys bashing Josh, but I think there is a place for his views here.”

    A lot has changed since February 16. I WILL NOT allow anyone to bash me or make fun of me EXCEPT those whom I respect.

    Anyone who takes potshots before earning my respect will be responded to. If one says, who gives a shit about Josh’s respect. Fair enough. Don’t give a shit. But don’t take the liberty to bash me or make fun of me. It’s that simple, sweetie. 😉

  374. Sugardoll says:

    Zack says:
    @ Sdoll, a liceS….who died and made you Blog?!!!

    **I dont know what you mean here, btw im still waiting for you to tell me how are we being used. i hope you have a valid reason to say that, if you do i want to know.

  375. UglyMofoSD says:

    @PriceySpicey

    Does anyone understand WTF your gravatar contest is about other than the blog SD’s you talk to?

    What did you talk to data modelling geeks about? I looked up data modelling on wikipedia and it does not seem interesting enough for the foundation of a story.

  376. aliceS says:

    Zack you are being used I think, I’m sorry.

  377. flyR says:

    @Southern SB

    I think any number that begins with a 4 is very acceptable.

    Thankfully many don’t realize that many women are just approaching their prime (in many dimensions) in the mid 40’s .

  378. UglyMofoSD says:

    @sweetie

    $600 does not sound like a lot to get rid of Josh but we both know that there is zero chance that any of the generous blog SD’s will pay even close to this amount. They are still too busy helping one of the SB’s who posted some time ago to get a job.

    Josh will be here for a while!

  379. Josh says:

    @sweetie says:

    “Josh, you’re such a party pooper.”

    And why is the party ALWAYS at my expense dear? 😉

  380. Richard says:

    I didn’t give anything to Sugary. I donated $25 to Planned Parenthood (an organization I believe in and that does good work). I donate to worthy charities every year, but sometimes I need to be reminded or be given an incentive (speaking of which: Sugary, whichever heels you believe would look best pointed at the ceiling…lol…and of course ON you, I get nothing from shoes by themselves!).

    I’ve given several orders of magnitude more than that to various SBs and pot SBs in the 6-7 months since I joined SA.

  381. Josh says:

    Contrary to the misleading statements made by Zack, below was the “deal” between Jj and me. I am still willing to honor my end of the bargain, if Jj does his.

    However, it seems that something is up to sabotage this unprecedented positive event on the blog, [instead of the cum-talk, which was prevalent until few weeks ago.]

    My sincere apologies to the SBs who have been told that “You’ve been used.” I don’t know how they were used? Regardless, I apologizes that my efforts to benefit the SBs were somehow understood as using SBs. I just cannot comprehend that assessment by Zack.

    ————————————————————————————————————–

    Josh says:
    March 13, 2014 at 12:17 pm
    @Jj

    This is what you need to do. Offer SBs that if they have a bill or a dire situation they need help with, up to certain amount, they can contact you through SD Guru to get immediate help. And that you will take care of that expense for them is a short period of time.

    If you do that then I will agree to start taking SD lessons from you. I don’t agree to follow everything you teach. But I will listen to you, nonetheless.

  382. Zack says:

    @ Sdoll, a liceS….who died and made you Blog?!!!

    LoL 😛
    //www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7zNY0I5JNI

  383. UglyMofoSD says:

    @SouthernSB

    Richard suggested lying about being 10 years younger. This is shitty advise, and says a lot about the person who gives it. Would you appreciate meeting a SD who lied about his age or lied about the allowance amount he could provide?

    Everyone thinks they look 10-15 years younger. That said, an in shape attractive 40 year old woman will be sexier than many 20 year old women.

  384. sweetie says:

    Josh, you’re such a party pooper.

  385. Sugardoll says:

    @Zack
    You’ve been used.

    **Again, when people say something they need to have a reason, if you say we are being used, now i want to know in what way are we being used? cuz my words dont follow noone desires, im a grown person, i decide what i do and what i say. so again, what way based or your reasonable thoughts are we being used?

  386. Josh says:

    @Zack

    “The point is, when the fund reaches $600 bucks the next day, Josh honors his side of his bargain with the blog at large and leaves never to return under any alias or capacity to the url.”

    Don’t go Zack on me now. Oh, wait, it’s Zack. 😉

    Show me where I offered that anywhere in the past posts? 😉

  387. Josh says:

    @sweetie

    “This is getting good. Only $600 to get rid of Josh!
    $600 once, $600 twice… Ladies and gentlemen, Josh sold into oblivion for $600!”

    Do you expect a respectable response to this sweetie?

  388. Sugardoll says:

    @Sweety
    This is getting good. Only $600 to get rid of Josh!
    $600 once, $600 twice… Ladies and gentlemen, Josh sold into oblivion for $600.

    **hahahaha… omg Sweety you just killed me with this, come on! who gives more 610 at one, 610 at two… this is getting good now im going to bid about josh

  389. aliceS says:

    Zack why you decide about it? Aren’t we are grownups with our own mind? Why you think you are right and we are used. Please, just tell us. I’m so curious

  390. Zack says:

    @ Southern…it’s your choice when to put a cork in it, but you are, perhaps of a perfect vintage for a discerning palette? You have peers on the blog, too, but we know that. 😀

    Still, dear, if you’re worried, you are sending messages to at least yourself. Plan accordingly, your age is an issue to you, sorry…but as mentioned…a smaller pool makes shooting fish in a barrel,,,,Dy-no-might!!! Not really…but know what you look for.

    SDoll, Alice…you’re new…this troll thing and outrage is not unique; learn to see it coming as Sugarship training. Attitude only goes so far, usually. You’ve been used.

    LoL

  391. sweetie says:

    Zack – “The point is, when the fund reaches $600 bucks the next day, Josh honors his side of his bargain with the blog at large and leaves never to return under any alias or capacity to the url.”

    This is getting good. Only $600 to get rid of Josh!
    $600 once, $600 twice… Ladies and gentlemen, Josh sold into oblivion for $600!

  392. SugarySpicey says:

    And the Lord said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.

    Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another’s speech.

    So the Lord scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.

    Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the Lord did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the Lord scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

  393. aliceS says:

    Zack?? Are you OK? Who gived you the right to decide who will be here and who not?

  394. sweetie says:

    We have a Tower of Babel on the blog right now. It’s quite amusing. :)

  395. Zack says:

    Ladies, Gentlemen, this can be recouped. (no car pun there.)

    Let’s define this unila…nm…Josh’s bargain, shall we?….maybe something along these lines…

    Guru, in an individual and independent capacity, sets up a “put up so he shuts up” fund for donations. SA is not involved. Josh and SS just ignore this. The real SD’s contribute some hope and change to a fund which we all know goes to SDoll…but she does nothing but get the check…

    The point is, when the fund reaches $600 bucks the next day, Josh honors his side of his bargain with the blog at large and leaves never to return under any alias or capacity to the url.

    Or Something like That…
    //www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxAaVqdz_Vk

    All hail…BSD Empire

  396. SugarySpicey says:

    Doll – critique accepted, my apologies. You didn’t pander or act bitter that you didn’t personally benefit, so I would hope it is clear to everyone that your behavior was just fun and games.

  397. aliceS says:

    Flyr my point is that there is full of nonsense in here lately, instead of a normal conversation. And I wonder why at all you feel offended.
    Josh I don’t expect anything, and stated it openly in my email to jj earlier today.
    Sugardoll is having a full right to make a donation site for what she needs, and she did it. No need to disrespect others and expect some respectable answers. I think it’s legit.

  398. Sugardoll says:

    SugarySpicey says:
    Doll – you were playing around and being funny and silly, that was not a dig at you.

    from “stupid/prostitute” to “right-wing prude” (mutually exclusive ideas, No?) to “ugly and bitter” (how quickly disproved) to “liar” then to “bragger”.

    **I might say you just have to be cautions, and if you are referring your words to an specific person, to be direct and clear about it. if someone is attacking you its fair enough you attack back at that specific person, theres more people here.

  399. SugarySpicey says:

    Alice – Jj, GTT, Richard, Beach, and Sweetie have all (within this post) commented on the increasingly rude treatment they have received from one singular source within, this blog post alone.

  400. Josh says:

    @aliceS:

    “Josh what? Money from who and to who??? Are you seriously? Hahaha”

    I am still hopeful that he will pay up dear. :(

  401. flyR says:

    @ alice “OMG girls and boys. Everyone is so generous (boys) but how come only Sugary have received any gifts and proofs. Isn’t that’s more fishy? Like common. I may be naive, but I’m not blond! I think I will change the blog , cause my eyes hurts from reading this bullshit”

    and your point is ?

  402. aliceS says:

    I think you think about it from our perspective, no one else is being attacked* as you claim except one person, coincidence? Maybe not

  403. SugarySpicey says:

    That said, peace out. Just enjoying my own little satisfaction as the attack against me shifts again, from “stupid/prostitute” to “right-wing prude” (mutually exclusive ideas, No?) to “ugly and bitter” (how quickly disproved) to “liar” then to “bragger”.

  404. aliceS says:

    Sugary it is so nice of him. AWW I think I will donate there as well. My eyes are full of tears right now. Faith in humanity restored!

  405. SugarySpicey says:

    Doll – you were playing around and being funny and silly, that was not a dig at you. I would have also considered Jjs committment fulfilled had he funded Sugardoll rent. Though I believe he has not donated to either cause?

    Alice seems to be implying that it is somehow fishy that someone would make a donation to a well known and respected cause rather than giving to anonymous women on this board.

    Your comment about On-Demand abortion is completely misinformed. See my post above about the broad benefits of Planned Parenthood’s mission. You are factually incorrect in your statement.

  406. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB

    I believe that you are a classy 47-year-young (or whatever age you look and feel) with a great sense of humor.

    As sweetie and others have suggested, put up a profile. I have written on this and past two blog pages how to improve profiles.

    SD Guru and others have written articles on various topics to improve your chances are well.

    We are all here to lend a helping hand.

    Best of success in the sugar world.

    And you go girl. :)

  407. Sugardoll says:

    @Sugary
    Pandering for money from strangers is tacky and déclassé.

    Spicey: I accepted your request, though I do not believe in PP’s abortion on demand type of birth contraception.

    **You was here on the blog, and you knew what was the circumstances, so i think your comment its out of place, cuz you also made your request, so what the fact that it was for PP makes it more important, and classy than other girls needs.? Just sayin..

  408. aliceS says:

    Eloquence night night. Hope you will be better tomorrow

  409. aliceS says:

    No, I don’t think so. I miss understood anything :) but continue

  410. SugarySpicey says:

    Alice – it’s a huge international charity he donated to that funds research and helps women and children all over the world (ESPECIALLY young women who need help paying for birth control or STD testing, his donation helps ALL SBs and anyone with a vagina).

    I didn’t get anything but an email confirmation of his donation. You’ve misunderstood the entire conversation.

  411. Eloquence says:

    You know something…I presently have a father who has been rushed to ICU and is dying, I’ve spent my whole day being puked on by my little ones with the stomach virus, I feel like poo and I’m tears…but I sent a YouTube clip that is a romantic love story,

    if you read/watch the English version on YouTube with a turquoise blue background. I have no SD and my world appears gloomy but.. yet I STILL BELIEVE IN IT POSITIVELY, whatever and however and where ever love/euphoria/acceptance/it is to you as a person just as I do for me.

    @ Southern

    The day each of us stops breathing is when we are too old regardless what magazines try to sell. Until that day, Flaunt what God gave you because the inside speaks just as loud as the outside.

    Excuse my rant…but its all in perception based on how you want to see your world. Sighhhhh. Thanks for listening, Good night.

  412. aliceS says:

    Josh what? Money from who and to who??? Are you seriously? Hahaha

  413. Josh says:

    No one is “Pandering for money from strangers” here.

    The money is (maybe?) given by Jj to KatPaw, Sugardoll and Alice as a deal between him and me.

    Show respect for struggling SBs instead to showing off oh-so-expensive gifts received from strangers.

  414. aliceS says:

    Who is pandering?
    Sugary with all of the respect but please. It’s childish. I’m glad you have a donation for that semen controlling bank or whatever, but please just speak clear so people outside the sate understand you as well. And I Think It Is Fishy SD instead of helping SB support parenthood thing. It’s so classy of him. Oh. Indeed

  415. SugarySpicey says:

    Alice – The blog SDs didn’t give me a gift; Richard made a donation to a worthy international charity.

    I did not ask for a single thing for myself. In return for Richard’s charitable gift I posted a Gravatar. I received nothing from his donation but the satisfaction of showing that I have no concern about proving that what I have shared about my sugar experiences are TRUE and knowing that a good cause will benefit.

    Pandering for money from strangers is tacky and déclassé.

  416. aliceS says:

    OMG girls and boys. Everyone is so generous (boys) but how come only Sugary have received any gifts and proofs. Isn’t that’s more fishy? Like common. I may be naive, but I’m not blond! I think I will change the blog , cause my eyes hurts from reading this bullshit

  417. Sugardoll says:

    SouthernSB says:
    I think there are at least some men on SA who appreciate women (as opposed to girls). I wouldn’t consider 47 too old, especially if you have taken care of yourself. You will have a much smaller pool of SD to choose from, of course. Also, I’d suggest you lie about your age, especially if you look younger than your age (perhaps be 39 on SA?).

    ***Thats true, i dont see any problem with you age, we are all here to get some sugar, welcome! any other advice you need we all be please to help you out.

  418. Sugardoll says:

    @beachG
    Sugardoll~ you ask for money on the blog because you will be evicted and you have 2 SDs? something is fishy… sorry, I don’t know the story but it sounds wrong

    ***LOL guess you miss to read the part where i say their just both on the first date, not arrangement set yet do to their schedules.

    **And NO, i didnt ask for money on the blog, i think you will have to try and catch up wit the post before assuming that im asking for money just because, hahaha kind of funny!!

  419. SouthernSB says:

    @Richard thanks for the advice. I’m encouraged. To the rest of the blog babies and daddies, I’m off to bed night night.

  420. SugarySpicey says:

    Jj – in a time when women and health care providers are being killed by right-wing nut jobs with homemade explosive devices, it’s important that you not spread misinformation about Planned Parenthood.

    Planned Parenthood is the U.S. affiliate of the International Planned Parenthood Federation. PPFA is a non-profit organization providing reproductive health and maternal and child health services. The Planned Parenthood Action Fund, Inc. (PPAF) is a related organization which lobbies for pro-choice legislation, comprehensive sex education, and access to affordable health care in the United States.

    Planned Parenthood is the largest U.S. provider of reproductive health services, including cancer screening, HIV screening and counseling, contraception, and abortion (in limited areas). Contraception accounts for 35% of PPFA’s total services and abortions account for 3%; PPFA conducts roughly 300,000 abortions each year, among 3 million people served. All women must see a health care provider FIRST and comply with state and local laws, which often prevent, distort, and circumvent the rulings of the Supreme Court on the issue. The services are definitely not “On Demand”.

    Additionally, Planned Parenthood has been the single most effective US institution in preventing and reducing unwanted pregnancy and abortion and provides PREVENTATIVE health care services and prescription contraception on a sliding fee scale. PPFA has been substantially more effective than fear campaigns and so-called “abstinence education” efforts.

    If you want to reduce abortions and/or unplanned pregnancies Planned Parenthood, or any of it’s international affiliates, is the most humane, and effective place for you to give your money.

    Richard, thanks for your donation! The Chanels, the Blahniks, or the Ferragamo’s? I assume you want a Gravatar of me IN the shoes?

  421. KatPaw says:

    @MissB sadly a dark cloud of negativity has taken over the blog

  422. MissB says:

    Does anyone else ever get stressed just reading through here? When I first started visiting the blog, I don’t remember it being like this :(

  423. Sugardoll says:

    @KatPaw @southernSB
    @sugardoll there had been a bunch of blah blah blah on the blog and when reading fast or really just trying to skip all the bs you don’t see everything.. But you just recently 1) talking about your 2 SDs and 2) the go fund me for your rent. I get this was a semi joke to you.. Not a all will get it.

    Yeah, sorry girls, i got lost, i spend all my day reading, here, there , over there,, i guess this too much reading is confusing..lol

  424. sweetie says:

    Southern, just put a profile up and see how it goes. Who’s to say how old is old enough?

  425. Richard says:

    @SouthernSB – I think there are at least some men on SA who appreciate women (as opposed to girls). I wouldn’t consider 47 too old, especially if you have taken care of yourself. You will have a much smaller pool of SD to choose from, of course. Also, I’d suggest you lie about your age, especially if you look younger than your age (perhaps be 39 on SA?).

  426. SouthernSB says:

    @ Sugardoll you got lost on the autobahn. I was asking if I was too old to be a SB. It was Beach girl who asked about your SDs.

  427. KatPaw says:

    @sugardoll there had been a bunch of blah blah blah on the blog and when reading fast or really just trying to skip all the bs you don’t see everything.. But you just recently 1) talking about your 2 SDs and 2) the go fund me for your rent. I get this was a semi joke to you.. Not a all will get it.

  428. Sugardoll says:

    @southernSB
    Sugardoll~ you ask for money on the blog because you will be evicted and you have 2 SDs? something is fishy… sorry, I don’t know the story but it sounds wrong

    **And NO, i didnt ask for money on the blog, i think you will have to try and catch up wit the post before assuming that im asking for money just because, hahaha kind of funny!!

  429. Sugardoll says:

    SouthernSB
    Sugardoll~ you ask for money on the blog because you will be evicted and you have 2 SDs? something is fishy… sorry, I don’t know the story but it sounds wrong.

    ***LOL guess you miss to read the part where i say their just both on the first date, not arrangement set yet do to their schedules.

  430. SouthernSB says:

    Yeah right. If I said I was 28, that would mean I would have to learn how to use an I-Phone. It doesn’t give me any leeway at all. My piece of crap ex was 36 and he had no idea who Donna Sommer was. If I put down that I was 28 I would have to have been a Beliber right?

  431. DarkHorseSD says:

    SouthernSB, just be sure to post your Internet age as “28” because all the “29’s” are in their 50’s.

    I go for people who’s real age is 47, and in a few years 47 will be the new early 40s for me.

    I wish there were a lot more high quality 40-somethings to choose from.

  432. Beach_Girl says:

    Sweetie~ I think he wants to stir the pot… some people like that…

  433. Beach_Girl says:

    Josh~ I disagree with you, I have always been polite to you and you were condescending to me on more than one occasion, for no reason!

    Sugardoll~ you ask for money on the blog because you will be evicted and you have 2 SDs? something is fishy… sorry, I don’t know the story but it sounds wrong

  434. Beach_Girl says:

    I agree with Richard, “Just because I don’t use the terms doesn’t mean I’m not thinking them. ;)”

    Hello Sugars~ Hope you all had a great day

    Ahhh,,,, lucky Spicey with new shoes 😀

    So who is giving shoes away? is it Jj? coz I’m in 😀

  435. KatPaw says:

    @MissB Ohhhhhhhh really hmmmm you will have to tell me more! You peeked this kitty’s curiosity!

  436. SouthernSB says:

    who is like a bottle of fine wine. Ugh, I was typing much too fast.

  437. SouthernSB says:

    Gentlemen: Your opinions are needed please. What age do you all think a woman should stop looking for a SD? Honesty please. I am 47 and I am thinking of stepping back in. Have I reached my past due date or should I go for it? I look at SA and see how young everyone is, but on some of the other sites they have men who are more in my age range and even 10 to 20 yrs. older than I am. What about it, are you all looking for the sorority girls (whom I admit are just too cute) or do you think I could find a man of a certain age who would appreciate a woman is like a bottle of fine wine.

  438. Josh says:

    I don’t know how old are u sweetie, but I have been on the internet before there were browsers. We called them bulletin boards back then.

    There are certain people, like Richard, who actually like to get whacked. It’s kinda discussions board version of BDSM, if you would. So don’t worry about him. He asks for attention and he gets it. 😉

    Contrary to him, just note how I have responded to many others including Jj whom I had heated debate with. Every blogger is different and will be responded to accordingly. 😉

  439. MissB says:

    Well kitty kitty, I’m back to looking for a SD!

  440. Josh says:

    You use condescension against me or call me names then I will make mucho fun of you. It is as simple. 😉

  441. Josh says:

    No dear. I don’t go around calling names just cuz…

    Basically I have no respect for those who choose to disrespect me. When they do then basically THEY have made a decision how they will be responded to.

    You use condescent

  442. newsdmidwest says:

    I am a new SD. I met a couple of different women who met my criteria and settled on my top choice. I am 43. She is 24. We are both new to the SD/SB world. We agreed on a moderate monthly allowance for her, along with some shopping trips.

    We have met a couple of times. There is definitely some sexual attraction, as we are both relatively attractive and in good shape. I am looking to move to the sexual phase of the arrangement, but want to do it in the right way.

    I am going to talk to her face to face during our dinner/drinks next week. Any suggestions on how to ensure that this interaction is successful? Thanks and I appreciate your assistance.

  443. sweetie says:

    Richard, I know what you mean. There’s a difference in thinking it and another in saying/ spelling it on the blog, though. If others can refrain, why not Josh?

    Josh, because he’s condescending to you doesn’t mean name calling should be used. That’s all. I’m sure you could respond to him differently if you really wanted.

  444. Richard says:

    @Sweetie – “I don’t see much asshole, douche, jerk, wanker, loser (fill in your favorite insult for male) when referring to men on this blog.” Just because I don’t use the terms doesn’t mean I’m not thinking them. 😉

  445. Josh says:

    Aww sweetie, sweetie.

    Richard has/had all the right to ignore my posts but he made sure that he wrote mucho condescending post specifically targeting me.

    Did you miss that? Do you want me to quote you what he wrote or do you expect me to be the “better man” to have ignored his condescention?

  446. Josh says:

    Sugardoll says:

    “**I think you have to read again what i said mi amor LOL… you put it all backwards,,”

    I guess that you have helped solve the riddle of the century.

    Man calls a bitch a bitch and says I don’t want to deal with you because you are a bitch.

    The bitch goes to her girlfriends and tells that her man call her bitch because he cannot handle her. [what’s there to handle?]

    Whose version the girlfriends use? Of coursen the bitch’s. 😉

  447. sweetie says:

    Not really, Josh and not as often. And one more thing, which is directed at you, specifically. Earlier in the post when you and Jj were going at each other and Richard intervened, you were the one who started the name calling: i.e. dumb, idiot etc., not the other way around. No offense intended.

  448. Eloquence says:

    Youtube: Vanessa Paradis et-M-dans “La Seine” (Clip official d’UN Monstre A Paris)

  449. blondie says:

    @Smart.but.Clueless.Aspiring.SB and @Alice S : I know your post was ages ago, but hushmail is great for setting up a new email address… it is encrypted… and free once you log in every three weeks. It helps to communicate with a SD this way until you have one or two meets and then go with your gut… gotta protect yourselves ladies!

  450. Josh says:

    @sweetie

    “I don’t see much asshole, douche, jerk, wanker, loser”

    Yes there is dear. 😉

  451. Sugardoll says:

    Josh says:
    Rhetorical question: Where is it written that a man must handle a bitch?

    **I think you have to read again what i said mi amor LOL… you put it all backwards,,

  452. sweetie says:

    I don’t see much asshole, douche, jerk, wanker, loser (fill in your favorite insult for male) when referring to men on this blog. Why the bitch/ escort/ whore/ prostitute endearment so often?

  453. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question: Where is it written that a man must handle a bitch?

  454. Sugardoll says:

    Why do some women think that bitch=strong

    We dont think bitch = strong, Joshy, thats how a man call a woman when they cant handle her. (so strong is the perception men give us)

  455. Josh says:

    Well she can pose the same fake smile with me along with fake orgasms. Perception is as good as reality for me. 😉

  456. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question: For men bitch=bitch. Why do some women think that bitch=strong woman?

  457. sweetie says:

    Hahaha, she’s only posing.

  458. Josh says:

    I want an SB with a smile as big and bright as the girl with $1,000 at the top of this page. 😉

  459. sweetie says:

    Alice – “Relationship are overrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

    Alice, you little cynical! Depends how many you’ve had and how bad they were. If they were good, they wouldn’t be overrated. Now having your space in a relationship, that’s a different story.

  460. Josh says:

    @Jj

    “Josh: I do not mind Zack and I think he is a good SD to his future Baby. I have no trouble comprehending his muse and feel he speaks from a true heart. A Baby will do well within his means and be better to have had her path intersect his.”

    Don’t go Zack on me, OK. I have no clue what that means.

  461. Josh says:

    @sweetie, we need to find you a nice real, silver, golden, diamond SD.

    There is no point in being in SA analyzing, commenting, screening away forever and not getting some sugar, yes?

    Do you need help with your profile, sweetie?

  462. aliceS says:

    MissBabyJ I can scream about all day! :)

  463. MissBabyJ says:

    @aliceS
    You can say that again! 😀

  464. aliceS says:

    Relationship are overrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  465. Sugardoll says:

    @sweety
    Or is it p4p they’re after?

    **Yes, thats what most of the Diamond SD’s do, by a text msg for my Diamond SD, telling me ” the site has change me by only having tons of sex and not realizing relationships are also nice”

  466. Sugardoll says:

    @Zack
    Doll, the donate site is spooky, particularly to “real” SD’s.

    **I thought that too, but this was also happening….I believe through the same source”

    SugarySpicey says:
    Doll, you could create a “GoFundMe” account, then benefactors could give anonymously, and you could receive anonymously. My offer stands if the donation is for DollRent.org 😉

    Sugary to JJ:
    If you will donate $25 to Planned Parenthood and email me a redacted confirmation screen shot of your donation.

    Jj says:
    Spicey: I will make a donation to PP and I understand your motivation. Fair enough!

  467. sweetie says:

    WCSD “@sweetie – I’m not saying that all verified or diamond daddies/babies are bad, I’m just saying that it is a very minimal piece of information that really has almost no affect, but SA loves it as a marketing tool. Yes, I’ve heard those horror stories of diamond daddies, but as we can see even on the blog, there are all types of SDs and SBs. The key is finding the type that fits with you.”

    I agree. The following are my observations on diamond daddies. Obviously they’re paying more than the premium members, not sure what perks come with it, though. They take pride in being diamond and assume that should be enough of a proof that they’re the real deal. But, most of them have been diamond members for a long time (as I see the same faces there), which makes me think they have not found any Sbs?!? There are plenty women who do not care about chemistry with their SD, so why are these men still looking? Or is it p4p they’re after? I doubt they are more successful at finding SBs than premium members simply based on more expensive membership…
    Any diamond members on the blog? If so, what’s the reasoning behind your membership, besides “I can afford it?”

  468. aliceS says:

    Where is everyone, as Sugardoll said before?

  469. KatPaw says:

    Hi alice sweetie ohh I’m going to email you! Look for it!

  470. Josh says:

    Jj: what’s up with the template? Please elaborate.

  471. Jj says:

    Josh: I do not mind Zack and I think he is a good SD to his future Baby. I have no trouble comprehending his muse and feel he speaks from a true heart. A Baby will do well within his means and be better to have had her path intersect his.

  472. Josh says:

    @Jj

    I know you are serious. Please don’t mind Zack. I don’t understand what he writes and what he just wrote.

  473. aliceS says:

    Good evening everyone

  474. Jj says:

    Josh!!: I am being serious in my request. As an offer of helping aspiring SB, you should draft an ideal profile template for them to evaluate and adjust to their own personality style. Other Daddies, Onxy, DH, and yes, MoFo too. Babbies, remember you will have to back up what you post in your communicae’, forward!!

  475. Josh says:

    There are many types of SDs, including:

    1. I got screwed by a woman IRL and I want to check out the sugar world to see if that’s is any better.

    2. I got screwed by many women. I am done with women IRL. Let’s have sugar relationships from here onwards.

    3. Let’s have sugar relationships as needed.

    4. Let’s have sugar relationships with gorgeous women only.

    5. Hot damn. So many gorgeous women here. Let’s try to bring one IRL.

    6. Let’s scam women in the sugar world.

    7. Etc., etc., etc.

  476. Zack says:

    Pass the popcorn…comments from the peanut gallery.

    I think JJ is real and the SB’s who are contacting him are taking a chance…be smart, but pony up. Get a mani/pedi out of it, or about $100 plus a real lottery, maybe…if Josh doesn’t ruin it. Good thing to have tried anyway….:D

    Doll, the donate site is spooky, particularly to “real” SD’s.

    I think Josh is spooked because his bluff got called and he’s scrambling to make something good seem unfair and messy…because it runs against his perspective and he realizes he destroys that here…

    DH, why is it difficult for him to stop, or just wait?

    //www.youtube.com/watch?v=sidL-DjHEHo#t=17

  477. Sugardoll says:

    Where did everybody went so fast? where is everybody….?

  478. KatPaw says:

    Hi Richard!!! Good to see you again lol meow

  479. Sugardoll says:

    @Richard
    by the way, and although there is no shortage of “real life” relationships available to me,

    **I think we are all here on the same path, even by the different situations.!!

  480. Richard says:

    @Sunshine – Excellent point. Many married men are constrained in the amount of “sugar” they can provide less by their wealth than by the possibility of discovery or complaint by their wives. If your SD prefers to pay for gifts and things you need with a credit card (especially a company credit card) and is reluctant to part with cash he’s likely in that category.

  481. SunShineSD says:

    There are only types of SD’s:

    1. Never married despite his age;

    2. Divorced or Separated;

    3. Still married; either cheating on the wife or being in the Sugar world with the wife’s blessing.

    The last subcategory is rare unless the wife is an active participant because unlike normal dating, sugaring as an SD involves taking substantial resources away from the community property that the wife is entitled to. Most wives are instinctively against such before a divorce settlement is in place safeguarding her share.

  482. SunShineSD says:

    @Richard,

    You are correct. There is a Category 3B: still married but in sugar world with the wife’s knowledge and consent. I over-specified Category 3 in my previous post.

  483. Richard says:

    @Sunshine – Many couples are legally and/or effectively separated while still married. I don’t consider it cheating if you and your partner have agreed not to be monogamous (hi Kat!).

    Most people are very vulnerable and not emotionally centered for at least a year or two after the end of a long committed relationship (marriage or otherwise). That’s where I am, by the way, and although there is no shortage of “real life” relationships available to me, I prefer the sugar world for now. It fills a void in my life without future expectations.

  484. Josh says:

    Either you do that or someelse will.

    Next?

  485. Sugardoll says:

    I know he is divorced. It happened recently, and I get the feeling he’s still sad about it and misses having someone “by his side”. I’m not sure if I should proceed talking to him, or talk to him about it. And yes, he tells me some of his feelings regarding that whole thing.

    **Focus on giving him some sugar, dont even ask him or talk to him about his divorce, be always positive, dont give him advice of how he should think or feel about it, limit your words on ” you will be fine, things will be different in the future, i understand, theres bad times and good times, etc etc” encourage him to do things outdoors, find interesting and funny things to talk about so you can make his time with you his stress free situation, talk about his likes and what he enjoy to do.

  486. Josh says:

    @MSugar

    Now I have something solid to go with. He is a fool. Do the honorable womanly duty to help him part ways from his money. 😉

  487. SunShineSD says:

    There are only three types of SD’s;

    1. Never married despite his age

    2. Divorced;

    3. Still married and cheating on his wife.

  488. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    Are you suggesting that SA needs another category? 😉

    Never cheats
    Social cheater
    Heavy cheater

  489. Sugardoll says:

    Oh yes i forgot the married ones, married too…also read 1-2 profiles where the wife is knowledge and also looking to share (threesome)

  490. MSugar says:

    Josh – I said anyone, so, I mean anyone. :)

    DH – I know he is divorced. It happened recently, and I get the feeling he’s still sad about it and misses having someone “by his side”. I’m not sure if I should proceed talking to him, or talk to him about it. And yes, he tells me some of his feelings regarding that whole thing.

  491. DarkHorseSD says:

    Stay away from the guy who is divorced from his first wife, separated from his second wife and cheating on his fiancé.

  492. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    Really?

    I’ve also heard that many of them were married.;)

  493. Sugardoll says:

    @MSugar

    I am not sure why Jj ass-u-med that I will jump in and dish out advice.

    First of all you need to clarify who this question is addressed to: SBs, SDs or both?
    ** I supposed she means in general SB/SD

    DarkHorseSD says:
    Msugar: ” I was wondering if anyone had any advice on divorced SD’s?”

    I’ve heard many of them are married.

    Some are divorce others are separated others still having ex wifes issues, and others might be all those but the profile still they post it as “single”

  494. Jj says:

    Good one Horse and very true I bet!! Indeed!!!

  495. DarkHorseSD says:

    Msugar: ” I was wondering if anyone had any advice on divorced SD’s?”

    I’ve heard many of them are married.

  496. Jj says:

    MSugar: Told you Joshy would come roaring to life!!!

  497. Josh says:

    @MSugar

    I am not sure why Jj ass-u-med that I will jump in and dish out advice.

    First of all you need to clarify who this question is addressed to: SBs, SDs or both?

  498. Sugardoll says:

    @Jj
    Heres my directly approach, lol
    cjulieh at gmail dot com

    **It would be nice privately talking to you, i got a warm and fuzzy feeling about you 😉

    @MSugar
    Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any advice on divorced SD’s? Or tips and experiences.

    ***It will be an interesting topic **

  499. Jj says:

    Kitten: Understood your intended communicae’ as my comprehension is quite ok

  500. Jj says:

    MSugar: I am sure yo will have loads of advise offered, but they will need more information as to your question. Please fire away, as Josh the resident Guru will always have something to provide!

  501. Jj says:

    Kitten love your mail handle

  502. MSugar says:

    Hey you guys, I hope all is well.

    Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had any advice on divorced SD’s? Or tips and experiences.

  503. KatPaw says:

    Wow need to read before I post! Lol
    “I am me and I’m not letting anyone change that. “

  504. KatPaw says:

    Oh duh can reach me katiemcdstoybox at gmail

  505. KatPaw says:

    Lol ahh Jj purrrrrrr lol and meow! I am me I’m not anyone changing that! You could very well help me with out being anything monetarily 😉
    Plus truthfully have things more important then a mani pedi lol please feel free to contact me. (Btw my spelling is horrible to!! It drove my mother who professionally proofread crazy!)

  506. Sugardoll says:

    @Mofo
    @Sugardoll
    I stand corrected. You are the first SB I have come in contact with who has mentioned that she likes to text a lot with her SD. Maybe gtt_envy is the to total asshole I thought he was.

    ** well the point is to have some sort of communication, i still dont set an arrangement with them, im just in the first dates with both but we have 1-2 months in daily contact (with both of them) why i prefer that way, there will come a point were we are going to intimate, and i hate the feeling of intimacy with a stranger. so i prefer to build a “friendship” i believe that i get more if i treat you and value you as a person and not as an ATM. Actually one of them offered me to help me out leaving the sex part up to me. (he asked me to intimate with him if i feel that i want not because of an arrangement) 😉

  507. UglyMofoSD says:

    @Jj

    Please stop posting. Your posts are not funny, informative, or antagonistic.

    @Sugardoll

    I stand corrected. You are the first SB I have come in contact with who has mentioned that she likes to text a lot with her SD. Maybe gtt_envy is the to total asshole I thought he was.

  508. Jj says:

    SugarD: Operators are standing by

  509. Jj says:

    II bit my “tongue in cheek”, why of course!!

  510. Sugardoll says:

    @SugarD: I did not expect a “real” name and enjoyed your selection choice, if it was you. Now you are saying that “Alice” is in “worst” than your’s. There is too much noise regarding this challenge/acceptance, only because I offered my Sugar experience. You did not approach me; you approached the blog;

    **I understand you, now hope you can see my point, How many days do you see a SD on the blog, making such an offer? I have to admit i was skeptical about it, thats why i didnt approach you directly, the fact that i said alice is in a worst situation is because she has kids (I dont), and i prefer in case you want to chose that you help her with her education. Which i would honestly cover if i had a job even if i dont know her in person. and being another SB.

  511. Josh says:

    @Jj says:

    “O Joshy, O Joshy: The wisest of the wiser, the Sugar aficionado that prevails all precedence of Sugar, past, present, and those of the future!; the sage of sages, soothsayer of soothsayers, Carnack of all Carnacks the magnificent!!!!”

    Aww, you’re so kind to me today, o generous one. 😉

  512. Jj says:

    Joshy, O Joshy!! The wisest one!!!

    Josh! Thank you and now we can have civility regarding this event!!

  513. Josh says:

    There is a lesson/s to be learned from the above exercise and I will talk about it/them when the generous one has helped the ladies.

  514. Josh says:

    Ladies,

    The opportunity was created in thin air by two SDs talking to each other.

    As the generous one noted and I agree with his observation: There is just too much noise.

    Grab the money from the generous one by providing relevant information to him, thank him sincerely and get it over with.

    Thanks

  515. Jj says:

    @SugarD: I did not expect a “real” name and enjoyed your selection choice, if it was you. Now you are saying that “Alice” is in “worst” than your’s. There is too much noise regarding this challenge/acceptance, only because I offered my Sugar experience. You did not approach me; you approached the blog; as with Alice as well! I do not go seeking those I assist; I just happen the find them, and I has worked very well, until the young couple event. Some seek notoriety, even when they are recipients of another’s goodwill; which makes it into a Circus instead of a deed. I am much more cautious than in times past, and rightfully so; don’t you think?

  516. Josh says:

    Alice and Sugardoll: Would you please stop this rooting for each other stuff. It is going to reduce the amount of help the two of you will get from the generous one.

    The generous one is going to help BOTH of your as in:

    “As in my business dealings!!! I just love to say!!!”Consider it done!!!!”

  517. Sugardoll says:

    @Richard
    And just in case,i got not help to improve my profile in there neither in here on SA and Some of the people who has read my profile can tell you i have such a great profile, i coud say one of the best SB’s profiles you have read, And my communication Skills are because i have more than 5 years of experience As Administrative Assistant for CEO’s

  518. Sugardoll says:

    @JJ
    The “carmen herrera” was a nice touch, but she was born in 1915 and I was not aware of “Dolls” artistic talents, indeed! And only a “measly” $5 seed money??? Joshy, O Joshy; wonder not why you are having such difficulties in Sugar play.

    Im here on the blog if you still wanted to confirm my info you could of text me, i created it and it was late nite and it was too much info to feel and wasnt aware how exactly that site works, the $5.00 dollars donation was made by “alice” which i appreciate due to the fact that as i speak with her, she is in a worst (relative) situation than mine, cuz she has kids, i dont. Anyways, I understand your concern, that i was born in 1915, but still im here and you couldve asked me any question by a private msg.

  519. Jj says:

    Joshy, O Joshy! Yo are so full of “rhetoric”!!! Cute!!

  520. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question: Who does not like Kate Upton’s Cat Daddy? 😉

  521. Jj says:

    O Joshy, O Joshy: The wisest of the wiser, the Sugar aficionado that prevails all precedence of Sugar, past, present, and those of the future!; the sage of sages, soothsayer of soothsayers, Carnack of all Carnacks the magnificent!!!!

    You asked that I choose a Blog SB of three suggested; now it is for me to assist all….to show my worthiness to the Carnack?

    I understand “Alice’s” fees and asked of her further………

    “SugarD” has suggested nothing of a sort, other than “Alice” stating “its is only $600” and more deserving than “her insulting amount”, as you referenced; sad that you think her need so shallow.

    Joshy, O Joshy: Sought “DollRent” and was surprised as to how much improved “her” communication skills!
    “After moving to USA, Leaving my family behind for a better future, decided to move here at friends expenses until i coul find a good job, applied for financial aid and went to school but still dont have a job, i cant pay my apartment, or even pay the loan for my scholarship i was asked to leave the apartment if i keep my payments behind.”

    The “carmen herrera” was a nice touch, but she was born in 1915 and I was not aware of “Dolls” artistic talents, indeed! And only a “measly” $5 seed money??? Joshy, O Joshy; wonder not why you are having such difficulties in Sugar play.

    Beach: you speak the truth and I enjoy your posts, and all girls have needs wants and desires.

    Kitten: You are a treasure, as well, and do not allow the “Joshy’s” to “shit in your nest”!!

    Exotic: You are lovely, with pure heart, to recognize a need of truth and worth.

    Spicey: I accepted your request, though I do not believe in PP’s abortion on demand type of birth contraception.

    Ladies! do assist me in sorting through Joshy, O Joshy’s bull in making a proper decision. I feel a trust within each of you and wish to seek your assistance. As all beautiful woman enjoy a mani/pedi; I will reward you for your efforts and let us put this event at ease.

  522. Josh says:

    “All – I wrote a little filter that redacts all posts containing the word “J*sh” and it makes the blog so much more enjoyable. And a hell of a lot faster to read! ;)”

    1. If an idiot redacts “J*sh”, then he is only going to redact 4-5 posts that contain “J*sh” so far, starting from his very idiotic post.

    2. If the idiot redacts “Josh” then he is going to miss out on pretty much everything in the blog including why Plant Parenthood was mentioned to start off with.

    3. The idiot will then have to write another little filter to redact all the posts except the one with “Josh” in it.

    As sage Forrest Gump said long time ago: Idi*t is what idi*t d*es.

  523. Sugardoll says:

    @Josh
    Richard says:
    @Sugary – Donation to Planned Parenthood made and receipt emailed to you. Shoes, of course. 😛

    ***I understand she needs her donation for her planned parenthood (shoes) cuz she needs to dress appropriate in order to get her cause well done, and I need to pay my rent (actually yes is for my rent, no shoes lol ) how come my cause has become so unimportant..?

  524. Sugardoll says:

    @Richard
    all posts containing the word “J*sh”

    **You missed the letter ” o ” did you mean Josh, right, its so hard to understand what name you mean to say LOL LOL i cant even noticed..!!

  525. Josh says:

    “***Where is mine? www dot gofundme dot com/dollrent”

    Now this is an “ethical” dilemma for the king of idiotic speech. 😉

  526. Sugardoll says:

    Josh says:
    And I can talk to you all day long as well, mi amor. 😉

    Yes, i think you have noticed i have a lot to say when i talk… lol…mi amor bello! (hypothetically cuz i have never see you)

  527. Josh says:

    And I can talk to you all day long as well, mi amor. 😉

  528. Sugardoll says:

    Richard says:
    @Sugary – Donation to Planned Parenthood made and receipt emailed to you. Shoes, of course. 😛

    ***Where is mine? www dot gofundme dot com/dollrent
    If I dont get my rent i will get kicked out of my apartment, and i will have no access to meet the father of my kids, and my kids wont have a place to leave, i cant be living in the streets :( this is sort of a planned parenthood too 😉

  529. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    Because you’re a smart cookie. :)

  530. Josh says:

    @Richard

    “All – I wrote a little filter that redacts all posts containing the word “J*sh” and it makes the blog so much more enjoyable. And a hell of a lot faster to read! ;)”

    Good for me too as I am hoping that you will spare me your condescending responses as well? 😉

  531. Eloquence says:

    @ Alice

    Thank you and you are not the only one who remains confused on the blog at times. I do too and being an emerald green hue shines next to a dull jaded rock anyday.

    @ Flyer

    Please elaborate to clarity for me to comprehend.

  532. Richard says:

    @Sugary – Donation to Planned Parenthood made and receipt emailed to you. Shoes, of course. 😛

    All – I wrote a little filter that redacts all posts containing the word “J*sh” and it makes the blog so much more enjoyable. And a hell of a lot faster to read! 😉

  533. Sugardoll says:

    @Josh
    Image how your SB’s feel when you text them constantly.”

    I find a couple of texts, here and there, with my SBs to be more than sufficient.

    WTF do you talk about all day every day with your SB, gtt_envy?

    Rhetorical question: What kind of non-sexual interesting topics a man and a woman can really talk about? 😉

    ***Hellooo, I have 2 SD’s and we text constantly, almost everyday if their not too busy, and believe me theres a lot to talk about, you think because this is based on arrangement people dont have things to talk?

  534. Josh says:

    Rhetorical question: What kind of non-sexual interesting topics a man and a woman can really talk about? 😉

  535. Josh says:

    @UglyMofoSD

    “@gtt_envy
    Image how your SB’s feel when you text them constantly.”

    I find a couple of texts, here and there, with my SBs to be more than sufficient.

    WTF do you talk about all day every day with your SB, gtt_envy?

  536. flyr says:

    @ Eloquence

    I think Cocaine was placed here on earth to help cleanse the gene pool of the idle rich.

  537. Josh says:

    @flyr

    Are you on autopilot to object to whatever I write?

    There is no need to be Jj’s apologist.You are misinterpreting what Jj agreed to yesterday. Read the relevant posts.

    Besides, he is used to giving hundreds of thousands of dollars to random people. We are just talking a few hundred here and there.

  538. Sugardoll says:

    KatPaw says:
    And if you notice I didn’t ask for any monetary assistance.. Even tho the goddess knows I could use it! Lol I don’t expect any $ from a compleat stranger. But if they wish to help me find that real classic daddy then I’ll happily take it! Lol

    **Josh challenged him to help some SB’s and JJ accepted it, still nothing happen, . lol… well , its worst not taking this change right!

  539. KatPaw says:

    Oh and hello flyr kisses!

  540. Sugardoll says:

    @Fly
    You come across a terrible accident and there’s someone laying naked in the street, bleeding, not breathing and burned.

    **Do you really think after all this you will get someone to breath? well, but yeah you can give it a try..!

  541. KatPaw says:

    And if you notice I didn’t ask for any monetary assistance.. Even tho the goddess knows I could use it! Lol I don’t expect any $ from a compleat stranger. But if they wish to help me find that real classic daddy then I’ll happily take it! Lol

  542. flyr says:

    @Josh “I am stuck on Jj’s promise to improve any SB’s “situation better than you found her.”

    He needs to pay for Sugardoll’s rent, Alice’s tuition and whatever expense KatPaw asks for.”

    I think that’s a misinterpretation, or at least it is for me. You come across a terrible accident and there’s someone laying naked in the street, bleeding, not breathing and burned. Wrapping them in a mink coat will just result in a classy cadaver. Getting them breathing does not fix everything but gets them over the first hurdle. You obviously want to avoid further damage.

    It’s the difference between improving and fixing.

  543. KatPaw says:

    @ beach girl hey hun hanging in there! Being thankful for what I have and staying positive!

    @alice hey sweetie! Hope you have a great sugar filled weekend! Purrrr

  544. Beach_Girl says:

    UMSD~ Always looking for shoes 😀 and you are always Sweet lol

    Kat~ how are you girl?

    SDs will fund their SB, I don’t think they would fund a SB just because, if so, We all need something!!! 😀

  545. Josh says:

    I am stuck on Jj’s promise to improve any SB’s “situation better than you found her.”

    He needs to pay for Sugardoll’s rent, Alice’s tuition and whatever expense KatPaw asks for.

  546. aliceS says:

    Hey there Kitty :) have a nice weekend

  547. Sugardoll says:

    @Mofo

    I like more FatBastard 😉

  548. KatPaw says:

    MEOW!! Well hello sugars wow!!! Talk about active blog!

    @Jj you want to help I’ll be happy to take any help you wish to offer even if it’s improving my profile to find that real daddy! Nice to see that classic SD still around. There are a few good ones on here yet but sadly not posting often now.

  549. UglyMofoSD says:

    @BeachGirl

    I thought it was time for a change. I want to be more nasty on the blog so the new name fits better.

    Are you still on the hunt for a new pair of shoes? :-).

  550. Josh says:

    @Jj

    Sugardoll is still waiting…

    The url is www dot gofundme dot com/dollrent

  551. Exotic_SB says:

    I clicked on the link. She raised $5 so far.

    Common SD’s help Sugardoll out will ya. You guys are on SA because you have money to spare for a SB but why not kindly donate it to a woman in distress :)

    Some have been bragging of all the gifts and money they gave given their SB’s. Put your money where your mouth is and donate donate donate! :)

  552. aliceS says:

    Josh I checked it and it works :) who is next to give up some sugar for pretty Sugardoll :)

  553. aliceS says:

    Morning everyone :) look like I didn’t missed too much :) since yesterday. Btw who knows is it hard to get an Australian visa. My perfect sd is over there :)

  554. Josh says:

    @Jj

    Sugardoll is still waiting…

    The url is www dot gofundme dot com/dollrent

  555. Beach_Girl says:

    hello sugars 😀

    WCSD~ nice to see you again, how have you been?

    FBSD now UMSD~ why the name change?

    Sweetie & Spicey~ hello sugar girls

    To everyone I missed or don’t know well yet, Hi! 😀

    Hope you all had an amazing day

  556. UglyMofoSD says:

    @gtt_envy

    “The Blog should be renamed to “Josh’s Blog”!”

    You find it annoying that Josh is posting all of the time and monopolizing the blog. Image how your SB’s feel when you text them constantly.

    I think I have milked that for all it is worth. Time to move on…

  557. Josh says:

    So at times you tend to write something like:

    horse my riding while it lose wouldn’t so boots cowboy my in up growing money my I kept. laughter of tinge a with now right crying I’m?

  558. Eloquence says:

    @ Josh

    I’m naturally inclined to speak backwards verse.

  559. Josh says:

    Hmm so your money grew in your cowboy boots? 😉

  560. Eloquence says:

    @ Horsey

    I’m crying right now with a tinge of laughter. I kept my money growing up in my cowboy boots so I wouldn’t lose it while riding my horse :)

  561. Josh says:

    @gtt_envy

    “The Blog should be renamed to “Josh’s Blog”!”

    Awww. 😉

  562. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD:

    “The woman turned around and started screaming hysterically at him that he’d tried to rob her and to get away from her.”

    Kinda reminds me of someone. 😉

  563. gtt_envy says:

    The Blog should be renamed to “Josh’s Blog”!

  564. DarkHorseSD says:

    My father told me the story of a somewhat poor looking woman who dropped her purse full of money on the ground without noticing. He picked it up and called out to her. The woman turned around and started screaming hysterically at him that he’d tried to rob her and to get away from her.

    So men and women are different after all, Elo. Not sure what to punctuate by.

  565. flyr says:

    Wow, who spiked the blog punchbowl with acid.

    The current 20 posts per hour reminds me of my industrial debutante friend for whom high frequency / low fidelity was the watchword of the day.

  566. DarkHorseSD says:

    “A man bought an apple one day for $0.01 and polished it all morning in order to sell it for $0.02. The next day he bought 2 apples for $0.02 polished both all morning and sold them in the afternoon for $0.04. On the third day his father died and left him $1000000.”

    Wow. Had the uncle lived only 30 days longer the guy could have given the inheritance away and been only a few more days from owning the planet.

  567. aliceS says:

    Goodnight all :) talk to you tomorrow :)

  568. SugarySpicey says:

    KMS – sorry Hun, not coming back until the pollution is cleared – just pointing out that some cowboys are all spur and no saddle, after I popped in to see that my “biggest fan” is still gushing in his obvious “admiration” of all things SS. Some people like to throw aspersions they can’t back up – it’s the anonymous internet coward’s MO.

    Softi – you might actually like the premise I’m playing with it’s a very masculine book the two main characters are men – exploring the geek/douchebag archetypes (can’t share more than that for obvious reasons). Interviewed a bunch of data modeling geeks during my research and a friend of mine who works at an enormous search algorithm shop is acting as a technical advisor. Haven’t really been writing much lately though, which I intend to remedy.

  569. aliceS says:

    Eloquence that was a great comment. :) really 😉 it will be my favorite for today

  570. Eloquence says:

    My Father used to tell me stories when I was a child of a wealthy man pretending to be a beggar in the streets of NYC, in order to see how many people who stop to give him a hand up from his “bad luck”/circumstance condition. To the man who did stop and offer the beggar a hand-up/some money for food, the millionaire/beggar stood up and gave the unsuspecting man a hand-out of an undisclosed amount of money simply for having pure compassion in his heart, if nothing more to give, to another soul in need.

    I also remember as a child being at an outdoor Farmers Market with my Father and he needed “first one thing and another” but looked at me sad eyed saying he didn’t have the $100.00 in his pocket to buy what he needed. And as sure as I know my name, I witnessed within 5 minutes of him saying he was in lack, that my eyes saw my first $100 bill slowly flipping over and over along the ground in our path as the wind carried it in front of us for me to point out to my Father and ask if it was even real….and indeed it was and I watched a grown man stumble and almost cry at the strength and simplicity of how it came.

    So to all SB & SD whom teeter on points of view, and who hope, as I do too…. To take advice or not to, remember this and let it sink into your heart:

    “If you THINK you CAN do a thing or you THINK you can’t do a thing, your right….. either way.” – Henry Ford.

    Henry Ford didn’t do it alone. It took the help of all whom crossed Henry Ford’s path including the failures of his creations or he never would of created the first success. He created a car.

  571. Josh says:

    @WCSD

    Hahahahaha

  572. WCSD says:

    @Kms2014 – Did you honestly think she left for good? When someone says something and does something different at least three times (by my count), I stop bothering to listen to the ‘promise’ any longer.

  573. WCSD says:

    @FB – I agree some have inherited their wealth. Unfortunately many that I know that this has happened to them have said it was a lot of work to be in that ‘family’ and had to work hard at that aspect. I would think that most SDs who use SA are people of means. They work, they have busy lives, etc. The ultra rich or people who can sit at home all day and live off of their inheritance probably don’t need to use a website to find sugar babies. They are throwing themselves at them every day.

  574. Kms2014 says:

    SugarySpicey…I’m glad you came back (:

  575. Josh says:

    @UglyMofoSD

    “I think it is a stretch to claim that every wealth person worked hard for their money.”

    What percentage of men inherited their wealth could be researched and what percentage of women inherited their wealth could also be researched as well. 😉

  576. UglyMofoSD says:

    @Jj

    You mentioned something about your SD exploits being mentioned on TV in 2008. Since you have already outed yourself why don’t you tell us more.

    @PriceySpicey

    One week to recharge your batteries. If you are back on the blog can you at least post some new stories (you mentioned a cyber thriller you are working on).

    @All SB’s

    Jj the generous is back and looking for an arrangement in exchange for $100 per month. Which blog SB will be driving a new Maxima? Josh may be annoying to many but at least he posts reasonable things on the blog.

  577. SugarySpicey says:

    Jj – realized I can’t wear the AP and photograph the labels at the same time, and the labels are what matters here.

    The reproductive rights of girls across the land await. 😉

  578. Exotic_SB says:

    @JJ and Alice. Perhaps you could exchange your personal information such as an email address?
    I do believe that JJ is a good man that will help a lady financially if the money is going towards a greater cause, and I truly believe it will. JJ, please be a man of your word and help Alice out.

  579. UglyMofoSD says:

    @WCSD

    I think it is a stretch to claim that every wealth person worked hard for their money.

    A success story from the great depression:

    A man bought an apple one day for $0.01 and polished it all morning in order to sell it for $0.02. The next day he bought 2 apples for $0.02 polished both all morning and sold them in the afternoon for $0.04. On the third day his father died and left him $1000000.

    The moral of the story is that he wasted two days polishing apples when he could have been polishing his knob.

  580. aliceS says:

    Exotic SB and Zack thank you a lot. I don’t know what to say more. :)

  581. Jj says:

    Exotic: Agree indeed and I said it was not a large sum of money. It was 89 month and do not know how many months or…… have not received any response of an “arrangement”

  582. Jj says:

    Spicey: I love your “color” within your commentary and willingly sift through to get the gist of your posts. Joshy, has good things to say, but his vinegar has a way of taking away from the message!! Personally, I think he is too “stuck” on himself and my view he is developing more pro type Babies than not. This is an arrangement relation that is worked out between two people and when done appropriately, it is beautiful!!! Daddy takes care of Baby; and Baby takes care of Daddy; and not just a fuck!!!!

  583. Exotic_SB says:

    @jj Alice said that her school fees were about 90 per month. If you were really as generous as you claim to be, 90 wouldn’t be such a problem, and you would support her with her education…regardless if you had validation or not. I think Alice deserves it because she seems to be focused on achieving her goals, from reading her comments atleast… since I don’t know her in RL.

  584. Jj says:

    Zack: I do feel that Alice is ligit and have no problems supporting her school fees with some validation. I did not arrive at my living standard by being ignorant of reality and this is the web after all. Ps: I just love playing with those “folks” from Ghana!!! It’s a hoot!!!

  585. Jj says:

    DH: Will have to post again, do not know where it went?

    Cars are @ 50% of sugar overall and have been based upon RL needs. One Baby had need for extensive dentistry and a auto upgrade was likely going forward, though she did not know that, nor did she have it as a priority.

  586. DarkHorseSD says:

    JJ, how big a part of what you do overall as an sd is the car? Perhaps in terms of the one relationship and also in relation to all sd spending over a long term?

  587. SugarySpicey says:

    Alice – good critique, I do tend to over articulate.

    My point: the GBD calls me a hooker, then he says I’m lying and that I’ve received sugar. If I haven’t received sugar, how am I a hooker?

    Oh well, the answer is too boring for anyone to care about, and will just lead to another bizarre accusation.

  588. Jj says:

    DH: Our relationship continued to developed over the first four months, with the arrangement maturing as well. She had mentioned that obtaining a car was her first objective, for improving her employment and plans for school. I became aware that she had been dutifully putting away money for a car and actively planning for ways to have it fit within her financial situation. I am impressed with her vigilance and we incorporated her plan.

  589. SugarySpicey says:

    Doll, you could create a “GoFundMe” account, then benefactors could give anonymously, and you could receive anonymously. My offer stands if the donation is for DollRent.org 😉

  590. aliceS says:

    Sugary Spicey maybe that’s why some of us have hard time reading it right. Cause, when yours and Josh s post are soooooo long, we miss the sarcastic part. Both of you react on each other like a red flag on bull. I think both of you have something that sb and sd may use as advise, but when those posts are so complicated and long, people read just the first 3 phrases. And miss understood sometimes the whole thing. Or is it just me?

  591. SugarySpicey says:

    Alice – Darling, it was sarcasm. I’ve never traded sex for money, never had sex with someone that I didn’t want to have sex with (though a few too many shots of tequila might’ve lowered my standards a time or two) though I might – it would just require a hell of a lot of money. 😉

  592. aliceS says:

    Sugary Spicey didn’t you called yourself a whore in the last post??

  593. Zack says:

    Jj…I’m getting caught up, so pardon any premature exaggeration, but I think Alice is real. New; not escort, not versed in the economic or the US escort culture….but smart, edgy and real. Probably pretty stuck, and possibly not as driven as some, though.

  594. Sugardoll says:

    aliceS says:
    So no rent for Sugardoll? O.o

    Im still waiting, nobody has contacted me, maybe it was just a scam or the only way he make use of his generosity is if i bring to him some kind of ” Planned Parenthood ” which he gladly agreed with Sugary – so you can ask me for donation for :Dollrent.org

  595. SugarySpicey says:

    Well Jj – because I am apparently a prostitute, I will provide an AP Gravatar, in all it’s naughty little glory, go pony up your donation I’m leaving the office right now. Are you more of a tit or ass man? 😉

    Funny, that I’ve been repeatedly accused of being a hooker, but apparently I can’t actually receive anything for being a hooker … so wouldn’t that just make me a short term girlfriend?

  596. DarkHorseSD says:

    JJ, you paid for the car in full, registered, titled and insured it in her name?

    What was it about her after 8? months that made you feel confident enough to do it?

  597. aliceS says:

    Jj so are you willing to help Sugardoll with her rent as you said before or not? We are getting confused. The amount isn’t insulting as mine. It is only $600. And you can send it directly to her landlord :) please respond, so we can move on with new topic :)

  598. DarkHorseSD says:

    ” Yes, I’ve heard those horror stories of diamond daddies”

    It sounds like the inverse of what I call chumming for chics.

  599. Jj says:

    Spicey: HBgs and wallets are nice, love fine jewelry, shoes are sexy etc…, but I am a gent: Agent P of course!!!

  600. aliceS says:

    I think from all of us, she need that help the most. And she is alive. So she, as a neutral user in conflict may confirm that in here :)

  601. SugarySpicey says:

    Jj – you are a gentleman. Since the GBD refuses to back up his character assassinations you can choose if you like: Handbags and wallets, my Tiffany haul, my Shoe hauls, Burberry, designer dresses, $1,000 worth of Sephora goodness, Pay Pal fun, pics from my trips, Agent Provocateur?

  602. aliceS says:

    So no rent for Sugardoll? O.o

  603. WCSD says:

    @sweetie – I’m not saying that all verified or diamond daddies/babies are bad, I’m just saying that it is a very minimal piece of information that really has almost no affect, but SA loves it as a marketing tool. Yes, I’ve heard those horror stories of diamond daddies, but as we can see even on the blog, there are all types of SDs and SBs. The key is finding the type that fits with you.

  604. sweetie says:

    Hello, peeps! How’s everyone doing?

    WCSD – “It also doesn’t prove that they are generous, or a good SD in any way (neither does diamond status…which only proves they have money, not that they spend it).”
    Yes, like that diamond guy who’s so generous and such a great SD that he thinks SBs should just have a flight layover in his city and meet him at the airport… Yeah, I’ll meet you for a quickie at baggage claim!

  605. SugarySpicey says:

    Alice I’ve been ignoring him for over a week and will continue to do so, though he continues to talk about me every 5th post – I had no idea I was so fascinating!

    Now that it’s been made clear that I have no concerns about my ability to verify the truth of my claims, back to enjoying my life and the sun!

    BTW it’s well documented that the reason women are catty in groups is because some women refuse to stand up for each other, and instead side with “Might” rather than “Right” out of fear of masculine retribution, which creates skewed competitions where they needn’t be.

  606. Jj says:

    Spicey: I will make a donation to PP and I understand your motivation. Fair enough!

  607. Josh says:

    @SugarySpicey:

    I prefer not to talk to you, and I am sure that SD Guru would prefer it that way because of your potty mouth.

    I never said that I was going to “job.” I said that I need to “make some money to satisfy my bucket-list.”

    Focus on reading comprehension as well as writing comprehension. It will serve you well, AND I will be ignoring most of your posts like the last time before you decided to leave, yeah sure. 😉

  608. aliceS says:

    WE SD they do so every year in here. Once a year. To attract more customers. For Christmas time. I’m sure it was nicely calculated, and that mini Morris payed a lot for their commercial in that way. Maybe half then store owner. I’m not sure.

  609. aliceS says:

    And here we go again :/ why can’t you just don’t talk with each other? At least not here?

  610. WCSD says:

    @aliceS – Yes completely free. The store was losing money by giving away the car. You don’t think the price of the ‘lottery’ wasn’t in the cost of their goods that you have to buy? Or are you suggesting that the store was just being so generous and giving something away without any expectation in return?

  611. Josh says:

    SugarySpicey

    “Jj – I see the troll is still bullying the boards and scaring away the women.”

    Of course, I have a reason to “scare away” the escorts and those who operate like escorts for sure. From here and as well as from WYP.

    Read their brand new article talking about First Date Fraudsters, the term coined by none other than moi. Muah! 😉

  612. SugarySpicey says:

    How adorable! The Grand Basement Dweller can accuse someone of lies as nauseam, but when asked to specify his character assassinations so that the accused can defend herself with unassailable truth, all of a sudden for the first time on a month he has a job.

    Yep, that’s what I figured.

    TTYL bloggies.

  613. aliceS says:

    It was a free lottery. You buy your things and they give you a paper to fill with your name, surname and phone number

  614. UglyMofoSD says:

    @Jj

    You bought a car for your SB as an investment? Would it not be better to lease her a car for a few years and invest the rest of the money for her in something that does not depreciate %50 in two years?

    Wait, I am having a conversation with an illusion, never mind…

  615. Josh says:

    Well ladies and gentlemen:

    As both generous SDs have noted, and one of them is standing by, some of us are passing the opportunity by, by discussing all this other stuff that doesn’t mean a whole lot, at least for right now.

    The bottom-line is that there is a generous man in the room who has so far come through with his end of the bargain.

    ALL WE NEED is one or more SBs to take him at his face value and GET SOME MONEY.

    If you guys wanna talk about STUFF then of course there is First Amendment available to all of us.

    On that note I am outta here. Need to make some money to satisfy my bucket-list. Unless the generous one extends his generosity to me as well. LOL!

  616. SugarySpicey says:

    Jj – I see the troll is still bullying the boards and scaring away the women.

    I’ll take you up on your offer.

    For every gift I’ve told the blog I’ve been given from an SD that Josh accuses is a fabrication I will change my Gravatar to show a photo of said item against a note carrying “Down with the troll!” and today’s date. If you will donate $25 to Planned Parenthood and email me a redacted confirmation screen shot of your donation.

    Then we’ll be helping women all over the country.

    Other than that, good to see I’m still so fascinating even when I haven’t logged in for a week that the great unemployed one must mention me every five posts 24-hours per day.

    Back to my much healthier un-blog existence.

  617. DarkHorseSD says:

    Alice, one reason a wealthy person who came from poverty would look down on where they came from is they see the others’ failures. Many of these successful people were highly vilified and mistreated by their peers because they were bold enough to try to leave.

  618. WCSD says:

    @alices – Why would a lottery have to be ‘fair’? Why would you even think that it is? Second, why are poor people wasting their money on a lottery that has very little chance of winning instead of spending it on smart things? Have you never heard the line that lotteries are a tax for the poor and stupid?

    It always bothers me when people damn the rich for being rich. Did they not work to get those resources? Do they not have the choice to spend as they choose? Also the poor in most civilized countries are infinitely richer than the poor in third world countries. You have clean water, a roof over your head, an infinitely better education system supporting you, etc. Why not give your money to them? Make them the happiest people in the world. Why is it only the so called ‘rich’ from your perspective who have that obligation?

    Charity is a personal thing. It is a huge reward to give, but it should never matter what others give. Worry about yourself and get that reward.

  619. aliceS says:

    Press on my name to see one of actual videos about it :)

  620. aliceS says:

    Well he didn’t. And most of the rich people I had pleasure* to met are like that. They treat people, who don’t have much like trash. It is sad. Specially, when you find out, most of them were raised in the similar world. I don’t understand why. But I hate people like this. It’s incomprehensible. There a video on YouTube, where people receive free money. Paying for groceries, 1000 tips for one lady, etc. People go wild there, from happiness, they cry and that’s beautiful. We lack generous people lately.

  621. SunshineSD says:

    @jj

    I’m sorry to hear her disappointing response to your generosity. I agree much education is needed to go along with generosity, to make up for what their real parents and schools have failed them.

  622. DarkHorseSD says:

    Josh:

    WYP has trademarks, one or more patents pending and I don’t know what else. I’d be very surprised if they didn’t sew up much of the methodology around the idea.

    Anyway, until there is a version that works, its just not all that brilliant in my view.

  623. Sugardoll says:

    JJ
    Lovely story, but life is not so lucky for most of us, and unless im directly talking to John Beresford Tipton, then he would be already contacting the SB’s private and making things happen. 😉

  624. Jj says:

    Alice He should have given the car to the people, it was just a game to him.

  625. aliceS says:

    Well, then I’d like to met this guy lol. I have a story for you as well. There was a local store lottery, many poor people came in and fill the piece of paper, hoping that they will win that pretty little mini Morris. Many have struggled to eat sometime. Guess, who won it. The rich guy, happen to be a friend of mine ex inlaws. He seem to be so disgusted, that selling that car will take his time. Etc. Like really? He gave over 300k every year. And he didn’t appreciated the gift he received, telling mini Morris is a bad car. And now he need to run with all of those papers and selling thing. He used his 18k euros for trip. Where is the justice for poor people?

  626. Jj says:

    O informed one!!*

  627. Jj says:

    Joshy O formed one!!! It all made the CNN live broadcast in Cali. The young couple where not to disclose anything, but the had a free trip to NY GMA and Cali CNN.

    End of the story??? They never married and she ran off with the money!! 90/10 rule!! You help 10 people, one is bound to disappoint you. Today I live by the 70/30 rule and I thnik it is headed for 60/40; entitlement attitude!!!

  628. DarkHorseSD says:

    Frank, where are you getting the money for the party?

  629. frank says:

    You misunderstand. After I get the money for the sex change operation, but before I spend that money, I would like to fashion a good bye party. Sorry I didn’t make that clear.

  630. Jj says:

    Joshy!!!

    Stranger Gives Iowa Couple $100,000
    Posted on February 13, 2008 by M. Frazier

    An Iowa couple landed in a real life dream. When they woke up, they were $100,000 richer.

    In a story that sounds like the plot of a TV movie–or something out of the old TV series, “The Millionaire”, an Iowa couple was handed a check for $100,000 by a complete stranger–under the condition they not reveal who he was.

    In the old “Millionaire” series, which aired on CBS from January 19, 1955 to June 8, 1960, a man–who was never seen on-camera–gave away extremely large checks to people every week. The one condition: that the source of the money could never be revealed.
    The Millionaire was John Beresford Tipton, a semi-retired industrialist and shown obscured by one of his high-backed leather chairs, viewers seeing only his right arm as he reached for a cashier’s check for one million dollars, each week, and handed it to his executive secretary, a mild-mannered, good-humoured, but no-nonsense man named Michael Anthony.
    It was Anthony’s job to travel and deliver that check to its intended recipient, staying only long enough to present the gift and then, customarily, leaving the recipient’s life forever.

    For a couple named Alissa and Barry, it was the beginning of a dream-come-true as they ate last Thursday at Dr. Salami’s Cafe in Pella, Iowa.
    “He basically just came into the restaurant and just came in and started talking to us,” Barry said in an exclusive interview on “Good Morning America” today. He was most interested in whether they had any children, Barry said.
    After they replied that Alissa did indeed have a 2-year-old child, the man slid a check across the table and asked the couple to fill out the check with any amount they wished. The two assumed he was joking and made the check out for $100,000.

    The benefactor signed the check and said, “I’m good for it,” Alissa said. The next day Alissa and Barry were unsure of what they were going to do with the check.

    “We’re either going to throw it away or try it. Let’s give it a whirl,” Barry said. “[We] really didn’t think it was going to happen. It’s too rare for something like that to happen.”

    Alyssa and Barry endorsed the check, decided to cash it and were stunned when the check actually cleared and they received a $100,000 in cash–a real-life dream gift of a lifetime.

    In another twist that could have come from a “1001 Arabian Nights” or “Grimm’s Fairy Tales”, there were four conditions to their keeping the money.

    1 They were not allowed to reveal their last names.

    2 They were not allowed to reveal the man who gave them the money.

    3 They had to use the cash to buy or build a house.

    But Alissa and Barry were able to reveal a little about their newly-discovered friend.
    [H}e is in his late 50s and said he was just passing through Pella on his way to Des Moines and had stopped to get gas. He also said he had done this before. One thing he liked to do, he told Alissa and Barry, was to wait outside a Wal-Mart and buy carts full of groceries for people. And he once bought someone a car, he claimed.

    Alissa, whose birthday is today, said she hasn’t decided whether she and her boyfriend will buy or build a house because they are still dealing with all that’s happened.

    “It’s been a pretty stressful week — too much time to think about details,” Alissa said.

    The stranger wound up his visit with Alissa and Barry by tipping the waitress $100.

    “I hope no one finds out who he is because that is the way he wanted it. He is just a nice guy,” the waitress said. “You never know who is sitting next to. You never when you when you can make a difference in someone else’s life.”

    This story has demonstrated three things to us.

    Sometimes, life imitates art.

    Sometimes, not all of the news of the world today is bad.

    Sometimes, strangers who offer blank checks are not crazy.

  631. Josh says:

    My apologies ladies if I put you on the spot. Jj offered to pay money to take care of some of SBs needs. It seems that only the two of you are active here. If you don’t feel comfortable talk about it on the blog then go private. If not, it is your choice.

    Thanks

  632. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    What are you current needs sweetheart? How much is your rent dear, that needs to be paid? The generous one is going to take care of that.

  633. aliceS says:

    Jj I don’t want to ask you for anything. I don’t think it’s fair. We will never met together. And I don’t like owe anything to anyone. So, just keep in touch with Sugardoll :) she may really need your help. Btw I’ll take a job as well.

  634. Sugardoll says:

    aliceS says:
    Jj it’s cheap school. Monthly payment is 89 dollars :)

    Who pays 89 dollars? for what?

  635. Josh says:

    @Jj

    “Alice: You are not speaking of a large sum of money. No biggie if you are in real need. If it will make you happy to know that there is a real live gentleman out there that does help sometimes.”

    Alice is a sweet but bashful. I am assuming that you are going to take care of her full course fee and NOT just measly $89, yes o generous one? 😉

  636. aliceS says:

    Nah, I’m not greedy. If my school enrollment is insulting, let’s Mrs Jj check on Sugardoll rent :) he is the only one who can make his choices.

  637. Jj says:

    Alice: You are not speaking of a large sum of money. No biggie if you are in real need. If it will make you happy to know that there is a real live gentleman out there that does help sometimes.

  638. Josh says:

    Again. DO NOT insult the generous one.

  639. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    “Jj it’s cheap school. Monthly payment is 89 dollars :)”

    Sorry sweetheart, you are insulting the generous one. Please give him something respectable to work with.

  640. Jj says:

    Joshy!!! Bear in mind there is a LOTS OF BS FLUFF included but the basic is true

    Feb. 4, 2008
    By DIANE SAWYER
    Anchor, “World News”

    It’s like an episode from the old TV show “The Millionaire,” in which a man who never appeared onscreen — except for his hands — gave out shockingly large checks to people on the condition that the source of the money never be revealed.

    It was a script come to life for a couple named Alissa and Barry as they ate last Thursday at Dr. Salami’s Cafe in Pella, Iowa.

    “He basically just came into the restaurant and just came in and started talking to us,” Barry said in an exclusive interview on “Good Morning America” today. He was most interested in whether they had any children, Barry said.

    After they replied that Alissa did indeed have a 2-year-old child, the man slid a check across the table and asked the couple to fill out the check with any amount they wished. The two assumed he was joking and made the check out for $100,000.

    The benefactor signed the check and said, “I’m good for it,” Alissa said. The next day Alissa and Barry were unsure of what they were going to do with the check.

    “We’re either going to throw it away or try it. Let’s give it a whirl,” Barry said. “[We] really didn’t think it was going to happen. It’s too rare for something like that to happen.”

    So they endorsed it and, to their stunned delight, the check actually cleared and they received the gift of a lifetime.

    There were conditions on their enjoying the money. They were not to reveal their last names or to identify the source of the money. They were to use the cash to buy or build a house. And if they have a child together, they must name the child after the benefactor.

    What little Alissa and Barry were willing to reveal about their newfound friend was that he is in his late 50s and said he was just passing through Pella on his way to Des Moines and had stopped to get gas. He also said he had done this before. One thing he liked to do, he told Alissa and Barry, was to wait outside a Wal-Mart and buy carts full of groceries for people. And he once bought someone a car, he claimed.

    The man told them that he regretted that he had never had grandchildren, which was why he asked them to name their next child after him, Alissa and Barry said.

    The couple said they will honor his request about the name. Alissa, whose birthday is today, said she hasn’t decided whether she and her boyfriend will buy or build a house because they are still dealing with all that’s happened.

    “It’s been a pretty stressful week — too much time to think about details,” Alissa said.

    But the man’s generosity didn’t end with Alissa and Barry. He tipped the waitress $100.

    “I hope no one finds out who he is because that is the way he wanted it. He is just a nice guy,” the waitress said. “You never know who is sitting next to. You never when you when you can make a difference in someone else’s life.”

  641. Josh says:

    @Jj

    “If that is you idea of credible information from an internet site/blog. I do hope you have a good accountant that you can trust!”

    My bucket list contains “chasing and playing with gorgeous women” so I don’t give a shit what my accountant tells me. LOL!

  642. aliceS says:

    Jj it’s cheap school. Monthly payment is 89 dollars :)

  643. Josh says:

    @SunshineSD

    Can you please hold off for a few hours. I want to stay focused on the generous one for right now. We are making history here.

    I will talk to you later. OK 😉

  644. SunshineSD says:

    @Josh

    Not sure why you dragged me into this. I never gifted anyone a brand new car. If I were to provide anyone with a new car, I’d probably lease in a business context, like I did previously for some bona fide employees (no sugar involved back then, I was too busy making money, and still had a marriage to maintain).

    In case you are wondering about the house I bought for my ex-SB to live in during her planned next degree program, no the house was not a gift. She’d live there rent – free and collect rent from tenants in other units to supplement her income. I was going to use the house as a way of teaching her how to run a business. The cap rate would be / is well into the double digits.

  645. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    “Josh, I ask only once. It’s in my nature. I won’t repeat it again. I’m not that desperate or ass licker. But he still have possibility to show how generous he is with Sugardoll rent :)”

    OK so he needs to double it up with Sugardoll then. 😉

  646. Jj says:

    “She has a profile here on SA. She has been posting on blog for a while.”

    If that is you idea of credible information from an internet site/blog. I do hope you have a good accountant that you can trust!

    Alice: How much money are we speaking about?

  647. Josh says:

    Ladies, ladies…

    Please don’t confuse Jj’s cash offer. He needs to put up now.

    He has already said “Consider it done.” All what is needed is bank account numbers or certain bills so that the GENEROUS ONE may take care of them because he wants to improve SBs situation better than what he found you in.

  648. aliceS says:

    Josh, I ask only once. It’s in my nature. I won’t repeat it again. I’m not that desperate or ass licker. But he still have possibility to show how generous he is with Sugardoll rent :)

  649. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    “But never mind :) I can afford it by myself, since I enrolled there :)”

    Don’t “never mind” him. he will then use that as an excuse that he offered and you never minded him. He has to pay. He is oh so generous.

  650. aliceS says:

    Jj that’s why I told you I can send you my school bill. With my real non Ghana name and address. But never mind :) I can afford it by myself, since I enrolled there :)

  651. Josh says:

    @Jj

    “Alice: I did not say that. I just need to be prudent in my actions to insure you are who you say and where you are. There is a “girl on here listed in Texas” that was in Alabama two years ago, that is from Ghana!! Or it is the same photos anyway!!”

    She has a profile here on SA. She has been posting on blog for a while. What else do you need, o you generous one?

  652. aliceS says:

    If that what you meant. Sex change. Cause I’m not sure lol. I’m assuming it after Sugardoll comments :)

  653. Sugardoll says:

    By the way now that we having all this talking about jj giving away money, what will i get paying one month rent, if i need to pay my rent the next month…so, IS THERE SOMEONE IN HERE WHO CAN HELP ME OUT TO FIND A JOB … LOL i think that will work better for me, does nobody in here needs an Assistant?

  654. aliceS says:

    Frank I will be your best friend then. You are talking to a future, hopefully soon future nail technician champion of Trinity!!! I’m taking classes from Champions to became one

  655. Sugardoll says:

    frank says:
    Alice, if I get the money for the operation, can I see you for a long goodbye to you know what?

    **You dont need a goodbye, after your sex operation, and the you know what, you can start seeing her to do your nails 😉 and for having a te afternoon with the girls lol lol

  656. Jj says:

    Alice: I did not say that. I just need to be prudent in my actions to insure you are who you say and where you are. There is a “girl on here listed in Texas” that was in Alabama two years ago, that is from Ghana!! Or it is the same photos anyway!!

  657. frank says:

    Alice, if I get the money for the operation, can I see you for a long goodbye to you know what?

  658. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    “what SD is being so generous?”

    Because yours truly challenged him to show his generosity he bragged about earlier in the day. :)

  659. Sugardoll says:

    Jj says:
    Doll: AND every SB should think about their daddy!!!

    I have read some blog post where it says do not text a SD good morning, or text him like crazy, i do treat my SD very good, and i give them affection, and i let them know they are special for me, i spoil my SD, cuz thats how i am, if at some point they dont like it i let them know their free to let me know.

  660. frank says:

    I need money for a sex change operation.

  661. Josh says:

    @Jj:

    “Alice: did Joshy put you up to this?”

    Don’t play all dumb all over again. It is on the blog Jj.

    “All things are possible; only some things are highly improbable!!
    Given the correct circumstances; providing a “hand-up, not a hand out” for a cause such as this is worthy, indeed! You are offshore, so prudence must be addressed.”

    Re-write in English please.

    Thanks

  662. aliceS says:

    Yeah. Guess I need to pay it by myself as usual :)

  663. Jj says:

    Doll: AND every SB should think about their daddy!!!

  664. Sugardoll says:

    aliceS says:
    Jj I need to pay my enroll fees :) if you are serious about it I’m more then happy to send you their information or my PayPal :)

    Is this for real? what SD is being so generous?

  665. Jj says:

    Alice: did Joshy put you up to this?

    All things are possible; only some things are highly improbable!!

    Given the correct circumstances; providing a “hand-up, not a hand out” for a cause such as this is worthy, indeed! You are offshore, so prudence must be addressed.

  666. Sugardoll says:

    Investment= teaching the ‘New Generation SB”: improvement for me; better SB until they meet their next Josh.

    Investment= As my Baby, I invest in her well being and hopefully her future. My current Baby now owns an asset with which has improved her current situation. I also intend to “invest” in her Education, but for now, she is saving moneys for ‘Dragons’, funds accumulations and whatever she may.

    Reward=My being her Daddy and she, my Baby. Yes, I have had to ‘teach’ and dim a few stars and she is better for the reality.

    **This is how every SD should think about SB’s, Some other post talk about SB\Scorts and that thing, but theres a lot of other SB’s in here which are not scort or prost, i understand everybody has their own issues and reason to be here,and sometimes is not fair to be treated like an Scort just because some SB’s work the site on that way.

  667. aliceS says:

    Jj I need to pay my enroll fees :) if you are serious about it I’m more then happy to send you their information or my PayPal :)

  668. Josh says:

    @Jj

    “Joshy: You are brighter that I gave you credit initially!! She was a scam a dang dang!!!”

    Hey, don’t go Zack on me again. I have no idea what that means.

  669. Jj says:

    MoFo: I did not take it that way. The offers I saw that came forth sounded sincere; however one does not know after that, you’re right. The offers I viewed were from frequent bloggers and I felt sure they would offer what the could.

  670. Jj says:

    Joshy: You are brighter that I gave you credit initially!! She was a scam a dang dang!!!

  671. UglyMofoSD says:

    @Jj

    I am sure there were many offers to exchange throw away emails in order to trawl the blog for potential SB’s. Maybe you were the exception and offered her you business contact.

  672. Jj says:

    As in my business dealings!!! I just love to say!!!”Consider it done!!!!”

  673. Josh says:

    @

    “O Joshy O Joshy: AND I am sure you EVEN considered to send her some………… money?”

    First, what I do should not have any bearing on you, o benevolent one.

    Second, she was NOT asking me money for some dire need. She wanted money if I asked her for some information from her. So it was not a dire need situation. What was relevant to this discussion was that she was willing to give me her Paypal information, which some SBs “may” be hesitant to share with you.

    So if an SB is willing to share her Paypal information or other information to send her some dough, then you should be able to send some cash to demonstrate your benevolence.

  674. Jj says:

    O Joshy!! Fair enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  675. Jj says:

    MoFo She now owns an asset. A lease is just paying rent!!

  676. Jj says:

    MOFO You are mistaken, kind sir. There in fact was four offers presented for assistance!!. Indeed!

  677. Jj says:

    O Joshy O Joshy: AND I am sure you EVEN considered to send her some………… money?

  678. UglyMofoSD says:

    @Josh

    I remember the silence from the generous blog SD’s when it came to offering a SB a job even though they were all well connected executives and were impressed with her academic background.

  679. Josh says:

    @Jj

    This is what you need to do. Offer SBs that if they have a bill or a dire situation they need help with, up to certain amount, they can contact you through SD Guru to get immediate help. And that you will take care of that expense for them is a short period of time.

    If you do that then I will agree to start taking SD lessons from you. I don’t agree to follow everything you teach. But I will listen to you, nonetheless.

  680. UglyMofoSD says:

    @Jj

    Why would you purchase a car? Why not lease it for her?

  681. Josh says:

    Now is the time for the SBs to ask Jj to do something for them to improve your financial situation. Ask him to send some money to you for some need you may have.

    I take no responsibility if he scams you because I don’t know who he is but at least one of the SBs here wanted me to send her some money. Maybe she can ask Jj for some cash.

  682. Jj says:

    Joshy, Joshy: I do not understand your logic?
    “@Jj

    Offer something of monetary value to one or more of these blog SBs. ;)”
    But Blog SB, what am I to do?

  683. Josh says:

    @Jj

    “11:18 O wise of the wiser of the Sugars of the East, West, North, and South!!
    I have never been one to balk at a situation that I became aware as a worthy event.”

    Hey don’t go Zack on me, OK? I have no clue what that even means.

    You need to offer something to the young ladies who are trying to make ends meet through sugar. They have a benevolent one among them and they must benefit somehow monetarily.

  684. Jj says:

    Zack: Not to worry, I am not of the “guppy” type!!

  685. Jj says:

    Joshy: 11:18 O wise of the wiser of the Sugars of the East, West, North, and South!!
    I have never been one to balk at a situation that I became aware as a worthy event.

  686. Josh says:

    @Jj

    Offer something of monetary value to one or more of these blog SBs. 😉

  687. UglyMofoSD says:

    @Jj

    I must have missed your post about it. What are your credentials as a SD?

  688. Jj says:

    Alice: Guys are visual and I am no exception. Just as the blog highlights, the photo is what grabs them and the profile leads them in. I will hand it to Josh, he has some good ideas for you girls, but his “tude” portrayed here, I hope does not carry over with you ladies into your profile and communicae’..

    The profiles of today’s Babies are horrendous for the most part. I have to sift through the verbiage and find some element with which to latch, or if it is somewhat comprehensible in some small way, I will take a chance on her and try. In my area, it is attractiveness to begin with for the most part. I can safely say there is not a “real” Baby to be had and requires some patience to help them along. From what I have heard, they have run into too many….J…..undesirables and are quite jaded.

    IF there is something salvageable after a very brief period, off arrangement, then we communicate and communicate some more. Working out the kinks (no pun) and easing into the arrangement and developing from there. I have been with my Baby for over 8 months and yes I purchased her car as that was one of her goals and we have worked it out. Building trust on both sides has been a very key issue, and I can understand from the flakes in SOFLO.

    Sugar is what you make it, as they say,but given the current generations of Ds and Bs, there are a lot of frogs and frogetts to sort through. I am not a Guru or a Guru thought,a,be…All I know is what I like in my Baby and our arrangement, and it works for us. Happy Sugaring!!

    ps: do not hold me accountable for typing or spelling; I am the world’s worst. I have even confused ‘spell-check’ to point that I received a notice: “We seem to be having trouble with your spelling search choices and would like to offer you a free online thesaurus for your convenience” Bet Josh will make something out of this!!!

  689. Zack says:

    Oh, Josh….after you write your answer, watch the video again with the captions on. Josh for some time to think, please. Too much spam (ahh, the irony of my regret…)

  690. Zack says:

    Josh, the frames of references are calibrated to impair your easy use. That’s ok…I’m still learning, and try to take the bad with the good, too. Gotta target better…:) Do you like John Carpenter?

    I am concerned that it is not entirely apparent to me whether your style of “Socratic Method” intentionally abrasive, and to what degree it’s automatic. I’m noticing other ways, !o! Jus’ tryin’ to get to know where u b comin’ from, or something like that.

    //www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gzDC-2ZO8I

  691. Josh says:

    @Zack

    You are a lucky MoFo. I don’t understand what you write. So write away, ma man. 😉

    Your videos I enjoy though.

  692. Zack says:

    Jj, Sir, please do not feed or taunt the happy fun ball. If happy fun ball starts to smoke, run away and take cover.

    Josh’s “reasoning” will grant and shit around your points, while his incessant insults will draw you into a flame war. For all our sake, relax…Florida has beautiful weather, and you are being baited.

    ! do not want to contract his SB’s, either.

    Mentor that!

    //www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWBUl7oT9sA

    aia…that was “shift”

  693. Josh says:

    Let me ask you something, o you benevolent Jj.

    Would you please help one of the active blog SBs with some random act of kindness? I am sure it will not cost you anything close to what a Maxima costs.

    But it will go a long way towards them believing that the crap you write is not fiction.

    Now, one of two things should happen, o you benevolent:

    1. You should put up.
    2. You should start talking sense. (I usually don’t tell people to shut up. ;))

  694. aliceS says:

    Jj I’m curious how you pick up your SB. What she has to have, and can’t to be able to enjoy happy circle? Thanks in advance

  695. Josh says:

    “Joshy”

    Drop the condescension otherwise I am pretty creative in coming up with things. 😉

  696. Josh says:

    @Jj

    Ah, you have gone full circle in your idiotic speech.

  697. Jj says:

    Joshy! Enough of this childishness. I know who I am and offered up my “credentials” for all who may be of a curious nature.

    Your horizon appear to be quite limited; likely to the dimentions of your grandmother basement, idk

  698. Josh says:

    @Jj:

    “Joshy, Joshy! You think with the “little” head, idk?!?”

    Resorting to cliches? Nothing intelligent to add? If I were thinking with my little head then I the offer from that woman would have been considered in some capacity.

    “But it appears your reward is nothing more than a mere ejaculation”

    Here you are insulting the whole SD population, nay the whole MANkind, who are not impotent like you, I guess.

    You “Reward=My being her Daddy and she, my Baby” is mighty idiotic based on what you wrote, no? 😉

    “I am sorry you have not had a good experience with a Real Sugar Baby, or one you have thought to have enlighten!”

    I am not looking for a “Real” anything. I am taking them as they come. I live in a physical world, not a fictional world of make belief.

    Comprende usted? 😉

  699. Jj says:

    Well Joshy! She is definitely no lemon though she does like to……….. be very nice towards me.

  700. Josh says:

    @Jj

    “Reward=My being her Daddy and she, my Baby.”

    Some people make bad investments. As long as no fraud was involved, so be it. So “investing” in something grand and getting a lemon kinda sucks, but it is OK.

    However, when someone is as dumb to take the above as a “reward”, I have a bridge to sell. It’s in Brooklyn though. 😉

  701. Jj says:

    Joshy, Joshy! You think with the “little” head, idk?!?. But it appears your reward is nothing more than a mere ejaculation, and I am sorry you have not had a good experience with a Real Sugar Baby, or one you have thought to have enlighten!

  702. Josh says:

    @Jj

    “A nice gentleman Daddy suggested I teach, as it is necessary, and teach it is. Best advice at the time.”

    You are as full of it as SunshineSD. You two should pair up indeed and blow your fictional dollars away. 😉

  703. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    “There are some intellectual property issues to overcome.”

    Like what?

  704. Josh says:

    @Jj

    I find it fascinating that a man as “benevolent” as you is lurking in the sugar world to tell mere mortals off.

    I guess that we should all take a bow and kiss the fictional ring? Yes. 😉

    “but for now, she is saving moneys for ‘Dragons’”

    With your fictional money she can buy a lot of ‘Dragons’ indeed. 😉

    “Reward=My being her Daddy and she, my Baby.”

    WOW! That’s pretty dumb, bare-minimum “reward” if you ask me. All of us get to have that “reward” as soon as we come into an arrangement.

    Do you think before/during you write, or your “benevolence” is supposed to take care of you lack of grey matter, huh? 😉

  705. Jj says:

    PS: Yes, during my initial frustration with this last endeavor of “New Generation Babies”, I did suggest a “Sugar Baby School” and still remain to think it is a good idea; however, with some of the latest ravings on the blog; possibly a “Sugar Daddy School” is in order as well.

    A nice gentleman Daddy suggested I teach, as it is necessary, and teach it is. Best advice at the time.

  706. DarkHorseSD says:

    ” If WYP continue to act stupid, they will just hand their clientele to the new service in a silver platter.”

    There are some intellectual property issues to overcome.

  707. Jj says:

    No thank you Joshy, as your ladies likely affirm you. I am sure that I would not seek the “Babies” you appear to attract.

    Investment= teaching the ‘New Generation SB”: improvement for me; better SB until they meet their next Josh.

    Investment= As my Baby, I invest in her well being and hopefully her future. My current Baby now owns an asset with which has improved her current situation. I also intend to “invest” in her Education, but for now, she is saving moneys for ‘Dragons’, funds accumulations and whatever she may.

    Reward=My being her Daddy and she, my Baby. Yes, I have had to ‘teach’ and dim a few stars and she is better for the reality.

    I could likely have a Baby or two, offer a “reference” as to our relations of arrangements past, but that would be rather tacky to say the least; except for maybe in Josh’s case; I don’t know. However; to those of you who just happen to watch events of any given day and possibly refer back to February, 2008 when I happen to have made the National news for my benevolence, not my choice mind you. I would say that I have reference aplenty.

  708. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    “Josh: I know all your points about WYP, but they don’t answer ‘how to make it work?’ It just absolutely cannot work the way we might imagine it would as is. So unless its implementation were changed in some way that works, it’s a disaster.”

    I am sure some entrepreneur will figure that out and offer a better alternative. 😉 If WYP continue to act stupid, they will just hand their clientele to the new service in a silver platter.

  709. Josh says:

    @Jj

    “I see you haven’t purchased many Maxima’s, let alone autos.”

    True. I have not purchased any autos for any SBs yet. So far none of them has done anything deserving for me to earn that kind of “reward.”

    One of them did offer to give me free blowjobs for the rest of my life if I gifted her my German car. For some reason I was not interested in that “investment.” Do you want her contact information? 😉

  710. DarkHorseSD says:

    See, I read the sentence about buying cars as separate from the sentence about investment. While they should be in separate paragraphs, I think the wording took care of that.

  711. DarkHorseSD says:

    Josh: I know all your points about WYP, but they don’t answer ‘how to make it work?’ It just absolutely cannot work the way we might imagine it would as is. So unless its implementation were changed in some way that works, it’s a disaster.

  712. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    “If someone has a longish term relationship they might buy a nice car.”

    Buying a car for an SB after a longish term relationship is a “reward” not “investment”. 😉

  713. Jj says:

    I see you haven’t purchased many Maxima’s, let alone autos.

  714. DarkHorseSD says:

    I didn’t consider JJ fictional. If someone has a longish term relationship they might buy a nice car. I was just ‘joshing,’ but not in the “Josh” sense.

  715. DarkHorseSD says:

    OP: that is a good description about psychopathy. The more we inform ourselves and the more time we spend in their presence, the better at seeing it. There are degrees, and other personality disorders, and people have some elements in different amounts. The elements are undesirable, so recognizing and evaluating can keep us from getting farther with them than we’d like.

    I haven’t been with a Multi-personality case. Yet.

  716. Josh says:

    @Jj

    “Any guy who offers $500 for a date is a fool; and his money just parted ways!”

    A “real” $25,000 Maxima is 50 times more expensive of an “investment” than the $500 you are criticizing.

    But comparatively speaking, fictional Maxima does not cost anything at all. So yes, I agree with you, $500 is a LOT of money to drop on a date. 😉

  717. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    “Haha! JJ blames the Maxima on the lady! :D”

    I guess that a fictional Maxima is as “real” as a fictional Lexus or a fictional Cadillac. 😉

  718. Josh says:

    SBs check this out. This is how the pimps on the blog, pretending to be SDs, come to their escorts’ assistance…

    @Jj

    Well DarkHorseSD, briefly pierced through your bullshit before I got around to it.

    You are basically attempting to pimp the escort-talk here. Let see…

    You try to lecture SDs with “I believe in do no harm and improve her situation better than you found her.”

    But insist that “I enjoy the blog for the entertainment value, BS included, and with the proper intelligence, one can sift through and find real advice and an understanding.”

    So as per your “logic”, you as an “obviously fictional” SD like to improve SBs’ situation better than you found them, but do not have common courtesy in helping budding SBs find useful information with ease. You want them to “sift through and find real advice and an understanding.”

    You believe that “the investment is worth the end results for both.” I am sure that such alturistic SDs exist, but I have not communicated with any SDs yet who are willing to “invest” a lot more than what they are getting in return. With a rampant take-the-money-and-find-another-sucker attitude of many SBs investing a big sum DOES NOT pan out.

    Then you try to induce guilt trip on SDs by suggesting that you have given “Benz, Cad, 300” in the past and as casually as “just yesterday, I closed on a Maxima, her choice.”

    If you think that you can write crap like that and induce guilt-trip on SDs, you are mistaken. Most SDs DID NOT make their money as a fluke. They worked hard for it and know how to spend it too.

    What such fiction does is taints new SBs’ minds with unrealistic expectations and they struggle forever to find an SD whom they have chemistry with and who is able to drop Lexus…even Maxima…just like that. And that is no way to improve their situation better than we find them at, that is, broke and needing our help.

    Someone advised a couple of blogs away, “Think you need to take that last one back to class and see if the teacher can offer some assistance; kinda sucks!!”

    Time to eat your own dog food? 😉

  719. Jj says:

    Any guy who offers $500 for a date is a fool; and his money just parted ways!

  720. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    “Josh, I really don’t think there is anything brilliant about WYP model and in contact with human nature it is disastrous. What have I not thought of?”

    My non-scientific research leads me to believe that a good number of women:

    1. Have an innate desire to get something for nothing from random men who approach them romantically. On POF and Match.com, they cannot get something for nothing until much later in the courtship. On WYP they can, and they like that.

    2. Temporarily deactivate their bad behavior when money is in the offing. I have no problem giving them something but since WYP egged on them women too much to get more credits from men, the model was broken. I’d rather give $50 each to 10 women, and $50 to WYP instead of $500 to one woman, or even $250 to two women.

    3. Are willing to date guys much older than them if free money is in the mix. For example, POF even limits trying to contact women who are X number of years younger than me.

  721. DarkHorseSD says:

    Haha! JJ blames the Maxima on the lady! 😀

  722. DarkHorseSD says:

    Josh wrote: “There seems to be a strong interest from the escorts and/or escort-type SBs to control the conversation on this blog.”
    True

    “the environment of the blog was such that “an obviously intelligent” man/SD could be ridiculed with impunity.”
    True

  723. Josh says:

    @Elaine

    Thanks for the civil back and forth sans name-calling. I really appreciate that.

    Note: Since I have a VERY thick skin, name-calling does not bother me, it bothers other bloggers when I turn up the heat from my end and the name-callers run scrambling for the cover. LOL!

    “My point is that you so easily decide things to be fiction, but how come you are so sure? How do you know?”

    Well, I assume that “an obviously intelligent man” would be able to detect some level of BS. However, more sophisticated lies cannot be detected though this rudimentary and the email communication.

    Therefore, coming back to newgirl’s hooking up with her SD in a single meeting is suspect, but I have no way of knowing if it is not true. I based it on the information provided by her. She could be lying too. Who knows. However, her lie does not affect the sugar debate much because she came and went too quickly without trying to influence the blog in a major way. If she sticks around then she would have been questioned because now she has to either prove that she was not lying, or continue to invent hard to detect lies.

    “Don’t you know sometimes non fiction is harder to believe as fiction?”

    Yeah, like I could not believe when I heard from one of my SD friends that his SB’s step dad had a female dog named WIFE. That shit was hilarious! 😉

    “I am not going to throw my “adventures” on this blog, but I am 100% sure you would immediately state I was fantasizing in case I would!”

    Fantasize away the sexual aspects. I don’t care. However, when you get into the real of economics I will question what reads like fantasy, as I will respond to the Jj’s post in a minute. 😉

    “And to be honest, I really think women like Sugary and me are completely at the other end of the spectrum, much further away from escorts as most profiles on SA.”

    Nothing wrong with that. However, she is paranoid kind and you seem not to be.

    “BTW. I really have nothing against escorts, (wish I had been so clever when I had the age :-)) only against escorts PRETENDING to be SB’s and thus ruining this site for the genuine ones.:-)”

    I agree with you here. 😉

  724. DarkHorseSD says:

    Josh, I really don’t think there is anything brilliant about WYP model and in contact with human nature it is disastrous. What have I not thought of?

  725. DarkHorseSD says:

    Flyr wrote: “If you want to maximize your return, make sure every picture and word (both profile and communications) exudes consistent quality.”
    Highlighting these good words.

    But who is better in bed, Leslie or Morton?

  726. Elaine says:

    @ Josh,

    Ehhh ..it was not BDSM or other sexual fantasies I was talking about…. :-)

    My point is that you so easily decide things to be fiction, but how come you are so sure? How do you know?
    Don’t you know sometimes non fiction is harder to believe as fiction?

    I am not going to throw my “adventures” on this blog, but I am 100% sure you would immediately state I was fantasizing in case I would!

    And to be honest, I really think women like Sugary and me are completely at the other end of the spectrum, much further away from escorts as most profiles on SA.

    BTW. I really have nothing against escorts, (wish I had been so clever when I had the age :-)) only against escorts PRETENDING to be SB’s and thus ruining this site for the genuine ones.:-)

  727. SouthernSB says:

    @ Josh
    The only way a girl that is 1.65 m. is going to be a “model” is if she is doing swimwear, and I’m not talking Victoria’s Secret or SI, or if she is commercial. Of course a girl could say she was a “model” if she is doing conventions, after all the conventions take all shapes and sizes. The word “model” is way overused these days. About 4 years ago my daughter and her girlfriend got a “modeling” job and all they had to do is show up at a club with some basketball player for the Houston Rockets. They may have called it “modeling”, but my daughter is only 5’3 and her girlfriend is only 4’11. Is that modeling? They say it is, but neither of them will ever be showing up on the catwalk for fashion week.

  728. Jj says:

    I enjoy the blog for the entertainment value, BS included, and with the proper intelligence, one can sift through and find real advice and an understanding.

    @Elaine, thank you for your post. You have capitalized on your niche in the marketplace and every market has a niche factor for anyone to develop. I know I did as a small business owner up against “the big guys”!

    Yes there are lots of SBs today with stars in their eyes, but as a guy from the “ole” school of a Sugar Baby, I believe in do no harm and improve her situation better than you found her. Yes I have had to do some serious ‘teaching’ with the current generations other than times past, but believe the investment is worth the end results for both. As far a “Lexus falling from the sky”; well they were not Lexus, but there was a Benz, Cad, 300, ….. and just yesterday, I closed on a Maxima, her choice.

    Best of luck, guys and gals and may you find your sugar.

  729. onyx_percula says:

    @ DarkHorseSD — A couple of thoughts…

    A true psychopath is nearly impossible to spot unless you are a trained professional, and even then I have been told by a couple that if you don’t specialize in it you can still miss it.

    When I questioned this seemingly “WTF!” idea from a psychologist friend of mine… like with anything people are different. Psychopaths tend to be smart on the higher end of the IQ scale. They learn from a very early age to fake emotions to “get along” with the world around them. He went on to point out that the hardest lies to discover are the ones that are only slightly off from the truth. Psychopaths become expert and those slight misdirections. They are very logical often scoring high when tested for this mental skill, so they weigh every lie again a clear logic which of course is one of the primary means one uses to discover a lie “does it make sense or not”. Additionally rather people recognise it or not, they are reading other people all the time, and deception is one of the things our evolutionary defenses look for. That good old “gut feeling” that something isn’t right. Psychopaths since they have little or no emotional input they do not give off the little physical signs of lying everyone else does making it that much harder to discover their deceptions.

    Something I have yet to look into, learn about that I have seen in a couple of sugar girls… Not a full blown multiple personality but something akin to it. An example would be talking to the girl in the morning about going on a weekend trip. She is all excited and “can’t wait to go!”. Then later that night you mention something about the upcoming trip that was planned in detail with her that morning, only to have her not remember anything or much of anything about it and have a different reaction to the idea, like going from positive excitement to “I hate that place, I really don’t want to go there!”.

    It’s not like some movie depiction like changing of name, voice, body movement, etc. It’s like the person you are talking to wasn’t there when you talked to them before. Their reactions are different, their comments/input is different than when you talked about it before.

  730. flyr says:

    the topic intro “We can sit here and wait until legislation is passed that will magically diminish the “wage gap”, or reform the executive ladder. ”

    I’ve spent too many decades studying, practicing and teaching as an entrepreneur not to have a gag reflex at this BS from SA of all people. I guess it goes with their sale of sugar as the only escape.

    If they want to legislate something try minimal educational standards and eliminating the attitude of entitlement and victimization. Yes the wall street banksters are making too much money and their numbers are likely to multiply because none were sent to jail this time around thanks to their purchase of politicians (but these are the same ones preaching victimization and legislation) .

    Sugar related in that you diminish your chances of success if you come to the game dressed in your victim suit. Go to the market and look at the salt for sale. There’s the store brand and there’s Leslie and Morton. Inside the same product but by projecting quality image, packaging and branding they get 50% more.

    If you want to maximize your return, make sure every picture and word (both profile and communications) exudes consistent quality. There’s no product on earth other than oxygen that’s had more enduring demand than the allure of a woman. Somehow the apple became $5,000 of bags and shoes, rather than the simplicity of basic appeals to the desire for quality.

  731. Liar.Liar.Pants.On.Fire says:

    @DarkHorse

    You are correct about their psychopathy. I put up with their lies some just because it’s meant to be drama-free and not happily-ever-after, but they do not last. I have confronted some and gotten more lies in return, and others I never confronted (they invariably give me other quite valid reasons to end things). And most SBs are not liars; I’d say 80% are quite honest, but I never understood the ones who lie thinking that I don’t see through their lies.

  732. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD:

    “Some great new avatars.”

    I though you would like it. Guess who suggested that avatar for me? 😉

    “Josh, you’ve made a great positive impact on the blogs of SA and WYP.”

    Thanks DarkHorseSD. I really enjoy your contribution here and on WYP and always learn from it; and I specifically appreciate your unwavering support for my posts when the going was really tough here. Thanks ma man!

    “I’m especially interested to see if WYP really takes some new direction.”

    I hope so too. WYP’s model is fucking brilliant but has been hijacked by First Date Fraudsters as this blog was hijacked by escorts and their likes.

  733. frank says:

    SA should create an discount website LOL

    I can’t find a SB, so maybe I should go in the discount bin too!

  734. Josh says:

    @Elaine says:

    “I can assure you that Sugary ‘s “fiction SA world” is far less fictional as you want to make believe in your comments…”

    I have no issues with someone’s sexual fantasies. I have issue with financial fantasies. There seems to be a strong interest from the escorts and/or escort-type SBs to control the conversation on this blog.

    “Since everybody is looking at things from their own point of view, you have a certain opinion about the Sugar world based upon your experiences.”

    Well, I am in communication with several very experienced SDs so I am NOT alone in that line of thinking about the sugar world. And of course, anyone can participate if they are willing to endure cross-questioning of their point of view instead of resorting to name-calling and paranoia.

    “your comments are often usefull for the SB’s moving in the same ambience.”

    Well that “ambiance” is significantly large and I am glad that the SBs in that ambiance are benefiting.

    “But what I don’t understand from an obviously intelligent man,”

    Thanks for graduating me to “an obviously intelligent man” from some kind of moron who many participants took pleasure in ridiculing because the environment of the blog was such that “an obviously intelligent” man/SD could be ridiculed with impunity. 😉

    “your refusal to accept there is different Sugar realities under the same SA moon.”

    Again, I have no problem with those who are willing to come and defend what they write. All I say is that if it is a fiction, declare it as such, and we all enjoy together as a work of fiction. However, if someone claims something to be reality then be ready for cross-questioning. That’s all. Is that too much to ask from “an obviously intelligent man”?

    “And even if you have never been to the moon yourself, it doesn’t mean it does not exist!”

    I do know that BDSM exists. I am not into it so if one wants to talk about it then be my guest. I DON’T control this blog except through my “First Amendment” contribution.

    I do know that Lexuses’ do drop from sky for a minority of SBs. However, a hint from a pre-POT SD about the possibility of getting a Lexus IF the pre-POT SB does something for him is still in the realm of fantasy. It does not become reality until the POT becomes the SD and the keys to the paid off Lexus falls in the hands of the now SB.

    Such nuances were absent from the posts of some SBs in the past. All I did was to challenge them to bring the nuances in. The way such things were discussed on this blog was as if a good number of SBs were getting expensive gifts from their SDs for no good reason. And that was misleading for new SBs as well as SDs.

  735. DarkHorseSD says:

    Referring to the psychopathy, etal. again…

    The bottom line is there is no cure or treatment for psychopathy. You cannot convince, improve, reform or punish a psychopath because they are incapable of the sorts of understandings others have.

    Thus the only hope is avoidance since confrontation is fruitless, leaving you even more upset after thinking your efforts would soothe you and straighten them out.

  736. DarkHorseSD says:

    Some great new avatars.

    Josh, you’ve made a great positive impact on the blogs of SA and WYP.

    I’m especially interested to see if WYP really takes some new direction.

  737. DarkHorseSD says:

    Liar, liar, I have written about becoming familiar with psychopathy and other personality disorders as defense against these all too common problems.

    A psychopath has a lie for every occasion. Confronting generally only results in your own frustration as they counter with more lies. You either live with it, aware of the lies and insulating yourself from their harm, or boot them out. Eventually you will boot them out.

  738. aliceS says:

    And Btw newbie how many sd you want to have? Just one or more? Cause, your profile is still out there. So I’m curious :)

  739. aliceS says:

    @ new girl then congrats :) don’t forget to update, on what your sd expectations were. And ,is it long or short arrangement.
    Liar, liar you are not the only one who is being lied to. The question is, why sd lie to us as well. They are not the first male we have honor to met. And later stories are so wicked, even my 10 years old son could smell a BS from it. :)

  740. Elaine says:

    @ Josh

    Why my sceptics about a model of 1.65m. ?
    Well, mainly because I happen to work in the fashion industry….

    And where you are sceptic about ” fantasy” or ” wishfull thinking” arrangements, I am about all those”models” !
    Funny though how selective you are in your sceptesism…..

    You also wanted to know how many arrangements I have had?

    I have had 3 long term arrangements so far, last one have seem to come to an end very recently and I am about to enter in a new one now, hopefully again long term.

    If you have ever read my older posts, you would know I am moving in a small niche of SA, and from my own experiences I can assure you that Sugary ‘s “fiction SA world” is far less fictional as you want to make believe in your comments….

    Since everybody is looking at things from their own point of view, you have a certain opinion about the Sugar world based upon your experiences.
    Which is fine and your comments are often usefull for the SB’s moving in the same ambience.

    But what I don’t understand from an obviously intelligent man, is your refusal to accept there is different Sugar realities under the same SA moon.

    And even if you have never been to the moon yourself, it doesn’t mean it does not exist!

  741. flyR says:

    @newgirl “I met a nice SD tonight for dinner who agreed to 5k. Thanks for the help!”

    Sounds wonderful and something you deserve. But understand you have only a promise or as much as he has given.

    I mention this for two reasons – Just as he will need to reaffirm his agreement on the agreed schedule, you’ll need to fulfill the dream on a continuing basis or risk induced sugar deficiency.

    Too many sugar relationships fizzle out at the end of month 2 ……. so take our congratulations and cautions and make sure the magic evolves to meet the opportunities.

  742. Josh says:

    @UglyMofoSD

    The problem seems to be over-indulgence of many SBs in chemistry and ignorance of economics.

    They are NOT here to find their happily ever-after love. But they seems to be qualifying men based on the same criteria. The argument used is that otherwise they would feel like escorts.

    The problem is that quite a few of them negotiate as escorts anyway even after qualifying the man for love-like chemistry. Essentially, they are just over-burdening the system with over-thinking as touch upon in the article above.

    They need to go light on chemistry for a typical SD/SB arrangement, which I have been told lasts for 3-4 months only.

  743. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB

    Sorry about the confusion. What I meant to say was that the younger women I have been meeting lately seem to have ongoing problems with their cars and cell phones, and that they are not really all that good in bed.

  744. UglyMofoSD says:

    I am having a real hard time finding a SB on the site. Not the best looking guy on SA I guess.

    SA should create an discount website where SB profiles go if they don’t get enough messages. You could then get 50% off on the allowance and a “No Reasonable Offer Refused” guarantee for the SB’s with negotiable allowances.

    I think I would have more success there.

  745. Josh says:

    @Zack, you have no idea how much I missed your incomprehensible sentences. 😉

  746. Zack says:

    Josh, if you’re lucky and keep on trying you are, someday you might find an opening on Backpage. As an escort.

  747. Josh says:

    Correction:

    How long will I do that? I don’t know. But it is available at this time and it is free until it becomes not available or not free. 😉 LOL!

  748. Josh says:

    There are two understandable SB reactions to newgirl’s post.

    1. I don’t believe you?
    2. How could you pull it off (so quickly)?

    Most of you have been bestowed by the One above with assets to use to move up in society. Women have done that from eons by “marrying up.”

    You are here to “date up” smart, successful MEN to move up in the “food chain”. You other option is to date deadbeat xbox playing “BOY”friends and stumble along.

    Brandon Wade has created this huge opportunity for the beautiful girls to “date up” and, at the same time, successful MEN to date the beautiful you.

    When I first started visiting this blog, I saw a huge waste of opportunity by man-hating fiction writers. These fiction writer are either escorts or at least think like escorts. They do not, cannot and/or will not think beyond sex for $$$$.

    So I am helping whoever asks to improve your “positioning” in this awesome “marketplace” to “date up”, which Brandon Wade has created for you. Read my posts from the Hire Me Daddy blog, and especially the post about “positioning”.

    How long will I do that for free? I don’t know. But it is free until it becomes not free. 😉 LOL!

  749. Josh says:

    @newgirl,

    Now tell us the warm and fuzzy. What exactly helped you from my advice here are in private from me?

  750. Sugardoll says:

    newgirl says:
    @Sugardoll I stumbled upon an alumni of my prep school and (passing) acquaintance on the site! We met years ago at an awards ceremony where he was giving a speech and I was accepting a prize for young researchers. We decided to get dinner and, after the awkward ‘funny to meet you here’ bit, really hit it off!

    **Awesome, now i understand how this could happen so fast, you knew each other previously, cuz i said, noo, with a new SD she just meet couldnt be..lol

    Well, again congrats, well done!

  751. newgirl says:

    @Sugardoll I stumbled upon an alumni of my prep school and (passing) acquaintance on the site! We met years ago at an awards ceremony where he was giving a speech and I was accepting a prize for young researchers. We decided to get dinner and, after the awkward ‘funny to meet you here’ bit, really hit it off!

  752. Sugardoll says:

    Llies are in the air… or the song says love? im getting confuse LOL LOL

  753. Sugardoll says:

    newgirl says:
    @Josh – I met a nice SD tonight for dinner who agreed to 5k. Thanks for the help!

    Congrats, i think you will have to share with the rest of the SB’s how did you get that arrangement on the first date so successful…

  754. Josh says:

    @newgirl:

    “@Josh – I met a nice SD tonight for dinner who agreed to 5k. Thanks for the help!”

    Whoa! Whoa! slow down girl…

    First of all SD Guru needs to verify that Josh NOT EQUAL newgirl.

    Second, you need to tell how exactly did you make that happen so rapidly. You may either post here or tell me in private.

    I knew you could do it but I never imagined you would be posting that message above in less than 24 hours.

  755. SouthernSB says:

    @ Josh,
    What does that even mean? I’m not understanding your post. Do you mean you have to pay for phones and cars and lousy sex? I don’t have a cell phone and a car, but I would never give lousy sex, I for the most part make sure I pick a guy I could see myself fucking. Otherwise it just wouldn’t be worth it.

  756. newgirl says:

    @Josh – I met a nice SD tonight for dinner who agreed to 5k. Thanks for the help!

  757. Sugardoll says:

    Josh says:
    @Liar.Liar.Pants.On.Fire

    Interesting rant… I am sure you felt better after writing it…and your point was?

    **His point was obvious joshy, his SB is lying to him all the time, I personally dont lie, and hate to have a SD lying to me, last time one SD was so interested asking me and telling me things about girls from my country, but i figure out that wasnt to know about me, but about others, so I asked him, How many Dominican Girs have you date or are you dating, he just looked at me and never answered me, so i guess at least 1 question was answered with his silence..!! lol