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Hire Me Daddy
  • Posted Mar 5, 2014

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The Oscars were met by some memorable quotes (namely, “Anya Keezy”), but none struck a chord with the ambitious like Matthew McConaughey. He proclaimed that his hero was himself… in ten years.

For many young women in the professional world, starting a career is more of a crawl than a launch. Regardless of education, millennials are notoriously underemployed. How are women supposed to be their own heroes without a job?

The truth is, it’s all about who you know. Befriending the CEO will get you farther than interviewing ever will.  In ten years, a Sugar Baby in the White House would not be a surprise. One has already come close.

Mutually beneficial relationships are connecting aspiring and career driven women with mentors. Forming this bond is proven to accelerate their route to success, which is a struggle for many post grads. More than an education is needed to make it to the top. It’s about communication and interpersonal skills, and there is no better place to perfect them than over dinner.

In honor of International Women’s Day, a global celebration of female empowerment, we asked Sugar Babies about the identities they’ve established with the help of Sugar Daddies. The results are astonishing: over 15,000 female users reported that their Sugar Daddy directly improved their careers through networking, interviews, and job placement.

We ranked the leading countries where women are staffed by their Sugar Daddies, and the most popular occupations by region. For Sugar Babies in these locales, a Sugar Daddy isn’t just a fiscal relationship; it’s an investment in their future.

Top Countries Staffed by Sugar Daddies

5. Colombia: Secretaries and Project Engineers

This Latin American gem has a booming economy, and Sugar Babies here are smart enough to take advantage of new opportunities. Colombia continues to generate significant revenue each year through exports and construction efforts, and ambitious women are on the frontline. These beautiful ladies most commonly reported managing construction projects securing roles as engineers, and working in the offices of CEOs as top tier secretaries.

4. Australia: Marketing Directors and Financial Analysts

Being a day ahead of the west is not the only advantage for Australian ladies. With an expanding stock market and a thriving tourism industry, these women are graduating from uni and moving right into high paying positions. Many Australian Sugar Daddies are financial consultants and marketing advisors, so naturally their counterparts are landing similar careers.

3. United Kingdom: Chief Executives and Business Advisors

The UK is ruled by start-ups, and Sugar Babies are able to get the financial backing they need to jumpstart their own small businesses. These range from fashion boutiques, to fresh produce companies, all owned and operated by driven Sugar Babies. With the third highest gross domestic product in Europe, this hub is teeming with professionals.

2. Canada: Finance Managers and Accountants

Renowned for manufacturing and exports, as well as a prosperous service industry, these neighbors to the north are steady economic competition to the US. The men here love having beautiful and intelligent women on their arms, as well as in their offices. Sugar Daddies know they can trust their ladies with finance and account management, which is why these women are making moves as fiscal authorities.

1. United States: Lawyers and Sales Managers

Since the US has the highest population of Sugar Babies, as well as a high unemployment rate, resourcefulness is key. These women are rubbing shoulders with the one percent at cocktail parties, thanks to their Sugar Daddy sponsors. Cash is king in our capitalist country, and savvy Sugar Babies are commonly placed as sales managers. With endless legal matters, these ladies are being hired as legal assistants, and quickly advancing to lawyer status. Creating a professional identity in this nation is a struggle, but Sugar Babies acquire the professional edge.

With help from the right Sugar Daddy, an otherwise unruly career path may just transform into a direct route. By finding a committed sponsor, these ladies are on their way to being the better half of a power couple.

Has sugar helped sweeten your career?


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1,163 Responses to “Hire Me Daddy”

  1. Jackie says:

    Hi im jackie can u help to find a supports here

  2. Mella says:

    I wonder why is it so hard to find the right is SD?

  3. Jesse says:

    I have been a member for 2 years now and have absolutely no luck in finding a sugar daddy. I live in Houston, TX so I should have many options, In the 2 years I have gotten 2 messages and nothing came of them. I have messaged a good amount of men but none ever get back to me. I feel like I must be doing something wrong. Would someone be willing to take a look at my profile and tell me what you think, maybe give me some ways to be more appealing?

    My Username is: J_sugar94

  4. Ocean says:

    Im having the worst trouble finding s sugar daddy :(

  5. Anthony Speight says:

    Paper Chase..

  6. Gabs_ says:

    Any helpful tips on getting a SD? I am a new member and I find this site quite interesting. Please check my profile and see if that’s okay, correct my errors if you want. I love meeting new people but this is harder than what it really seems to be. SOS!

  7. OregonExpert says:

    As an experienced SD I thought I would put in my two cents here.
    I was a member of this site for quite a while and had disappointing results. No disrespect to SA, I think they do their job. But most of the young women in my area anyways have no idea what a SB is.
    Example; I took one to lunch just to meet and greet and after 45 minutes she had to run off to another appointment but before leaving she was insistent that she be paid 300 I politely declined and walked away. This “entitlement” attitude amongst the 20-something crowd these days makes me fear for the future of our nation!
    Anyhow…. I have had a few real and wonderful SBs in my day and am thankful for them. Being a lover of young women and having been married to a beauty 20 years my junior who is a very highly paid and regarded escort it worked out that I would become the co-owner of a very upscale GFE Escort Agency and I will tell you that I have so much more respect for my girls then most of the SBs I’ve met. Here in Oregon anyhow. The silly girls think they’re above the “Professionals” in some status contest and It gives me great pleasure the few times I’ve had the opportunity to explain the difference to them. To explain how their clients do hold them very high upon a pedestal. To list off who amongst our ladies is driving a Beamer and who chose the Audi or the Lexus. I can explain about the honesty and trust our girls give and receive.
    Well, I’ll stop ranting but I encourage any Sugar Babies reading this to take a moment of self-reflection, think of how many lies you’ve told, how many times you have tried to get something for nothing and how you might be able to improve yourself especially before condemning others and appreciate your SD! There is so much wisdom and life experience they bring, you would be a fool not to soak up as much as you can. OH, and now that I now know there’s an actual term for it; “Ghosting” WTF? Grow up and if you don’t want to see someone again or talk to them say so. Just disappearing and avoiding calls is nothing more than RUDE. Sometimes a guy may have actual warm caring feelings for you and is worried sick when you disappear. There are my two cents on the SB/SD relationship at this time, place and with these generations.

    • Mia says:

      Hi there, I really like your honesty. I am in my early 20’s, and I can tell you that you do get those girls who just ‘don’t care’. I would love to find a sweet caring man, who can be a sugar daddy, and learn a lot from him. But totally get what you saying!

    • Latin SB says:

      Hi people.I have been here for 1 years more or less, get a lot messages, meet some SD, I still don’t have a really bad experiences, I never ask to them to send me money for nothing or ask for money in the first metting, actually I rejected some of them, because for me is not just about money, If is a disgusting guy or too old I can’t do it. I want an advice, I meet an SD, rich guy and he hired me on his company because I told to him I have been lost my job, and I have been working for 2 weeks now, he really don’t need he just gave the job and is going to pay me more than his olders , and he offered me $1,000 a month, I still don’t see any money and we still don’t have sex, not complete. I m needing money righ way and he still don’t give anything. Is he trying to scam me or maybe I’m too inpatient? I would like to start to presure him after we have sex first because I think I will have best results or should I wait? My English is not perfect. I need an advice please.

    • whatawebsite says:

      TLDR

      “I’m a pimp and I can show you how to make that paper, hmu”

    • Opportunist says:

      Oregon con here.

      If your ladies are so good, why do you continue to lurk about.

      He just wants part of the action.

  8. b_cross says:

    Just like 2 meet a sugar daddy n have a nice x!

  9. sugar baby 2016 says:

    I have had sugar daddies offer to meet me already. I’m new to this like most, but I don’t have anything nice to wear to meet these SD. Is it to soon to ask a SD to send a allowance just to get prepared for the date? And if it is not how do I approach this without making myself look like a gold digger trying to get up front allowance.

  10. Anonymous says:

    I have had sugar daddies offer to meet me already. I’m new to this like most, but I don’t have anything nice to wear to meet these SD. Is it to soon to ask a SD to send a allowance just to get prepared for the date? And if it is not how do I approach this without making myself look like a gold digger trying to get up front allowance.

    • Rick says:

      You really can’t do that without looking like a gold digger.

      SDs know you aren’t rich, so just dress in something casual and cute. If you’re meeting in a 5-star restaurant, then tell him you don’t have anything to wear there. He can either pick a different spot or offer to buy you a dress.

  11. Anonymous says:

    I just signed up and I got a LOT of profile views but no sugar daddy yet, I really need some tips and pointers that I should do

  12. Bsn_Caliboy says:

    M4M. Discrete “Sugar Baby” (I guess? lol) So I’m in Vallejo, CA. No doubt ya’ll more, pocket endowed guys can make that work lol. So if you want a smart (genius in fact), sexy, young guy with a more than reasonable lifestyle, feel free to hit me up. I’ll unlock my private pics.. I’m a Dude, 5’11, 140lbs, Caucasian, Slim, Brown hair (blond highlights)/Brown Eyes. Let’s do this man.

  13. Kayra says:

    I’m a adventures lady. Been out of the dating game. Just looking for a connection of peace happines. I really need speaciel someone who looks after me geniunly

  14. Anonymous says:

    So what happens when you do not live in the US? Any daddies looking forward to travel?

  15. Anonymouse975 says:

    “Creating a professional identity in the United States is a struggle, but Sugar Babies acquire the professional edge. With help from the right Sugar Daddy, an otherwise unruly career path may just transform into a direct route.”

    Yes, that’s a perfect plan. SBs: by hanging out (and making out) with your SD, you will acquire a “professional edge” that will quickly and magically lead to a high income job, so you don’t really need a monthly or per-visit allowance. If he’s generous, he may give you a nice gift such as perfume, flowers, or box of candy for each visit. (Just trying to do a good deed for my fellow SDs by writing this.)

    I also noticed the statement that the United States has a “high unemployment rate” compared to other countries being talked about here. factual information – how does it work?

  16. Anonymous says:

    Still haven’t found mines yet .. any tips ?

  17. msblackkitty says:

    went on a couple of dates, still get call backs but it seems as if they are scared. i don’t question them. i let it be. i still haven’t found a sugar daddy

  18. boss lady22 says:

    I feel like I personally wrote this article so well worded!! I’m grateful to know I’m not alone in this world;)

  19. Jorge says:

    Great article, thanks for sharing this information

  20. Anonymous says:

    Lovely law student in Boston (; Check me out

  21. Sweetie Pie Natalie says:

    Is there an experienced sugar baby who would be willing to give me some pointers?

  22. Cee Cee Michelle says:

    Hello everyone! I am new to this “Sugar Daddy” site. Also, first time doing something like this. I am a big girl with a great personality. 24 year old woman, who is s Full-time College student going for my BA in, Science in Psychology. I hope to meet great new people here. Don’t be shy or hesitant. Stop by to say hi!

    • Anonymous says:

      I feel you girl! Same here, but good luck. Hopefully we both meet a SD who will be good to us.

      • UniversityMichigan says:

        I’ve had the best experience with my last SD. I think the most important thing to keep in mind is the emotional disconnect. My last SD was a very busy guy, and I knew I couldn’t bother him with my mundane worries of life. Even though we agreed to be open and honest, I felt as if I always had to keep him in mind, no matter what.

    • justin4370 says:

      Hi Baby i am interested to know and meet you.

  23. Candy says:

    I love dating the extremely intelligent and successful SDs. I love being able to pick their brains and ask for advice. I’ll take advantage of that MBA they earned any day!!

    withsomesugarontop.com

  24. Sugar Baby says:

    Hey people

  25. The Real Dave says:

    hahaha..nevermind if the woman is utterly incompetent at her job, especially in many scientific or technical fields

  26. Anonymous says:

    Why not?

  27. pine says:

    Sugar daddy is all around? where are they

  28. Anonymous says:

    Sugar daddy is all around? where are they

  29. LitaKota8989 says:

    Looking for Daddy… oh where oh where are you! ^_^ hehe

    • ATLSD says:

      You need better pictures. Add a full body shot. All your pics are basically the same close up and smile just different hair styles. This leaves the SD with more questions then answers.
      Good luck

      • Tattoo'd Princess says:

        Thank you for that. I just realized that I think all my pictures are similar to that. I didn’t think it would be important. We start talking, then texting and pictures can be sent faster. But, makes sense. Thanks!

      • msblackkitty says:

        could you critique me?

  30. YoungLadyNYC says:

    I haven’t found my sugar daddy yet. What am I doing wrong?

  31. Sweet young easy to get along with you will rock my world

  32. Pretti Rehd says:

    I haven’t found my sugar daddy yet ? and Im ready to go out and explore meet New people ? but Im unlucky i see ?

  33. CaribbeanQueen2121 says:

    I haven’t found my sugar daddy yet ? i reside in Newjersey and Im ready to go out and explore meet New people ? but Im unlucky i see ?

  34. Niicolette 21 says:

    im a country girl I live in texas, Houston at that! I thought it would be easier finding an S/D since we are soooo populated….I was wrong

  35. Lilith Truelove says:

    I havent been lucky. I have not found my sugardaddy, I noticed that here there are many men who do chatter but nothing of concrete!^_^ I live in Italy but are prepared to travel and move to a good agreement!

    • Gentle says:

      @Lileth

      You are a beautiful lady and if I lived near enough you would be at the top of my list . Maybe Italy is not a good area for Sugar relationships .
      There are too many available women in other local areas to import someone from another country .

  36. Anonymous says:

    I have not been lucky. I have not found my sugardaddy, I noticed that here there are many men who do chatter but nothing of concrete! I live in Italy but are prepared to travel and move to a good agreement!

  37. Kim says:

    I live in Asia, I am looking for a daddy who is looking wonderful experience with me. If he is travelling in Asian countries that would be great so it would be easy for arrangement.

  38. Anonymous says:

    Wonder how one can combine this with the potential for a sexual harassment complain, should things go sour…

  39. Popylover says:

    Iam interested in meeting a submissive foot fetish sugar daddy, but don’t know where to find him !!! Any ideas?

  40. SailingIsFun says:

    I hired a model from a casting, to become my PA. I was basically spoiling her as a SB, she was very modest but it was fun. My GF new about it and how I loved to spoil both my GF and my PA. It was great that I could afford it then and appears shall be able to do some good again.

  41. Anonymous says:

    “These women are rubbing shoulders with the one percent at cocktail parties, thanks to their Sugar Daddy sponsors.”

    It’s more likely:

    These women are rubbing clits with the one percent after the cocktail parties…

  42. Eismalsott says:

    Much rather getting helped reaching the career I want rather than getting pushed around to do any of the jobs mentioned above. He, he.

  43. kiaqtpie says:

    hire me :)youll be very happy

  44. Miranda says:

    please hire me daddy , i will be your slave

  45. NewYorkStar says:

    new to SA an trying get the hang of it looking for serious sugar daddies & arrangements seem kinda hard but I guess I get the hang of this site??

  46. John says:

    I have tried hiring sugar babies and the most are delusional, immature airheads. And that’s being generous. lol

  47. MagieLove says:

    Hello… I just joined SA and still learning the website and the arrangement. I am desperate to find a sugar daddy who can be my hero and will show me the world.

    I would really appreciate any tips and advice.

    Thanks you. xoxo

    • Jaybird923 says:

      Don’t be desperate … that always leads to bad decisions

    • Jim says:

      Well be sure you have some really good photos posted. Write a profile that has some real content in it, not just one liners. Be sure everything is spelled correctly and that you use good grammar. Compose an initial message to send out to prospective SDs that goes into more detail about you, and what you are looking for, and don’t just repeat what is in your profile. Do a careful search and send that message to the ones that meet your criteria. I always tell SBs to ignore anyone under 40, as it is unlikely they have the means to afford an arrangement long term. And definitely avoid going out of state or long distance – these are often scammers.

  48. Anonymous says:

    Hello… I just joined SA and still learning the website and the arrangement. I am desperate to find a sugar daddy who can be my hero and will show me the world.

    I would really appreciate any tips and advice.

    Thanks you. xoxo

  49. Niyaful says:

    It seems that there’s are very small amount of SD’s in my area. And I don’t really feel comfortable with flying out. Are there and SB’s who fly out to meet people while being a student?

  50. YourSmartGuy says:

    Sou brasileiro e adoraria trabalhar fora, mas não está fácil achar emprego nem aqui, imagine lá for. Se algum Sugar Daddy estiver disposto a me dar uma oportunidade, seria muito “doce”. <3

    Well, it should be soooo fun! Work with your Sugar Daddy <3

  51. Anonymous says:

    Looking for a great time

  52. TSgirl4u says:

    Now if there are any true business men on here who want to hire a Beautiful Trans women. I am here for the service.. I am tall, Exotic, Stunning and you better believe when in public everyone will stare. If you can handle a full amount of attention then i am your girl.. No who wants to take me out first??

  53. Vaxoram says:

    I sooo want to do this. My current sugar relationship is ending because my SB is moving to another state. Maybe I can help an SB this way. Mentoring is fun sugar.

  54. aliceS says:

    My gps said if I want to drive from new jersey to New York with current traffic, it will take me around 5h

  55. Sugardoll says:

    Josh says:
    @Sugardoll

    I am NOT looking for a relationship, mi amor. 😉

    **didnt say you are,thats what comes up when i try to read the new post.

    @Alice im not 5hrs from NYC actually most of the POT im actually contacting are from there Im Just like 25-30 min from NYC 😉 and they usually prefer to come meet me here in new Jersey

  56. SouthernSB says:

    Wild!!! When I tried to read the new blog post it said, “Sorry we can’t find that but we can find you a new arrangement. Join SA right now!!” I wonder what happened?

  57. Josh says:

    I am sure both of you will have nice SDs soon. 😉

  58. MissBabyJ says:

    @Josh
    I can’t read the new blog post either – I’m so glad it’s not just me! 😀

  59. aliceS says:

    We’re looking for love in all the wrong places :)

  60. aliceS says:

    My autocorrect went crazy lately. Facepalm :)

  61. aliceS says:

    Of course Josh. We don’t doubt it, but since we were asked for opinion, we just used our rights. You seem to be fragile lately for all kind of comments :) and Sugardoll is about 5h from New York City. And I’m not going to say of kind of pictures was retailed to me via private message, but Sugardoll is going to find soon a great Sugar Daddy for her :)

  62. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    I am NOT looking for a relationship, mi amor. 😉

    @Elaine

    How many arrangements have you done sweetheart?

    “New girl is a model,: high 1.65 ?”

    Aren’t you supposed to rally behind you new SB sister?

    By the way, I am not going to post what was related to me in a private conversation. I know that newgirl is going to make good money in the sugarworld.

    Most likely she will leave it because she will run into one too many “creeps” before she gets to the real SD, or she will find a good job and kick the sugarworld to the curb.

    Next profile to improve please? :)

  63. Sugardoll says:

    @Josh
    Nop, seems it was deleted or something.!!
    We Couldn’t Find That.
    But we will find you a relationship!

  64. Josh says:

    “its like a man when he start showing off about fking multiple girls,when he hardly get 1. LOL”

    Alice, there, you see you don’t need to worry about my experiences after all. Most of them are fiction. 😉

  65. Josh says:

    Take 2…

    Is anyone able to read the new blog article, How Women Can Earn More Money?

  66. Josh says:

    Is anyone able to see

  67. Sugardoll says:

    @Onyx
    @ Sugardoll — “@alice
    I bet other SB’s are as freak as Sugary 😉 they just dont post it on the blog, they prefer to leave it in the room with their SD’s ;)”

    My ex bf has a foot fetish, and i loved it..I also had another relationship we used to watch a porn movie and start doing the same positions they were doing, and it was all just for fun…with that its enough for you to know the things i go into, i just dont need to post all my freaking experiences on the blog. All i can say is that as long as we both enjoying what we doing, i dont have limits when having sex, and nothing sugary said surprise me…when you are a real freak you never make public the things you do, cuz it falls in fiction, its like a man when he start showing off about fking multiple girls,when he hardly get 1. LOL

  68. Elaine says:

    Yesterday seen a modelscout show on tv, a beautiful girl was told that her 1.75 m was too short to be a model.

    New girl is a model,: high 1.65 ?

  69. Josh says:

    “Yes there are girls out there that truly want older men.”

    Daddy fetish? 😉

    • Sugar Baby says:

      I personally like older men. They’re usually more mature, have idea of what they want, and don’t normally play games. I surely can’t wait to find me my very first sugar daddy. ?

  70. onyx_percula says:

    @ Sugardoll — “@alice
    I bet other SB’s are as freak as Sugary 😉 they just dont post it on the blog, they prefer to leave it in the room with their SD’s ;)”

    That’s been my experience. It’s almost like sugar is a subculture from fetlife or alt lol.

    One of my girls simply wants to be dominated, tied up and fucked. Been approached by full blown slaves. Seems like there are no women I meet in sugar that aren’t submissive and kinky to one degree or another.

    I was contacted by a girl Sunday night that finds the idea of her man ordering her food at dinner, picking out her clothes and telling her what to do in bed is “SO HOT!!!”.

    I don’t really put anything in my profile that suggests that I’m a dominant man and seek submissive women, yet they seem to find me 😉

    —-

    So the girl that contacted me Sunday… Is looking for a relationship but wouldn’t mind having a little sugar on top from time to time. A nice self supporting divorced single mother. Her ex is older than I am, lol. They were married for 5 years. Yes there are girls out there that truly want older men. 😀

  71. Josh says:

    @Exotic_SB

    Are you asking me to look at that profile again? 😉

    Don’t read too much into that profile. That profile was referenced for her picture ONLY.

  72. Josh says:

    Who/What is 5h away from NYC, Alice?

  73. Exotic_SB says:

    Josh 19Nine214Three was a very good example indeed. She has a hot body, wonder what her face looks like. Anyhow, Josh, would you say that she has the ideal profile? Short yet sweet or do SD’s prefer the profiles with a little more text?

  74. frank says:

    You are welcome 😉 if you need anything else, just ask

    Oh I do Alice, oh I do!!

  75. aliceS says:

    Frank
    You are welcome 😉 if you need anything else, just ask :)

  76. frank says:

    Alice

    Thanks for the drama!

    New Girl- your profile picture showed some great legs. The rest of the photo was not so hot.

  77. aliceS says:

    Josh and Sugardoll isn’t that far from New York :) 5h I guess, or something like that. Maybe she should look for her perfect SD, over there?

  78. Josh says:

    More on models…

    Are you getting paid enough–to be reported in your tax return–by someone other than a family member to peddle their products or services?

    If the answer is yes, then you may put yourself down as a “model.” Otherwise, you may call yourself an “aspiring model” or something similar.

    Paying a photographer to take glamor or portfolios shots does not make you a “model.”

    Now if fiction writer is to comment on the above, he/she may say, “who are you, o misogynist, to tell a woman what she can or cannot call herself on a given day?” 😉

    • TSgirl4u says:

      well coming from a man who uses brad pits pic as his own must be someone special ED!!! So why dont you stop posting things on here if you cant even show your true self!! What are you hiding JOSH??

  79. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    “Sugardoll for example is hot candy. She knows what to do when it comes to some intimate confrontation, but she just don’t brag about it on the public sites.”

    I actually believe what Sugardoll writes because her writing falls within the realm of reality.

  80. Josh says:

    I am glad that this blog is now discussing what’s really happening in the sugar world intead of incessant wishful thinking orgies of $10,000 wire transfers, Lexuses, Louboutins, etc., falling from the sky.

    Not that there is anything wrong with that. 😉

  81. FatBastardSD says:

    Time is money. The $5K-$10K allowance range may be possible if you are willing to be a live in GF/ full time mistress to some rich guy and you are very attractive.

    @SB Reality check:

    Lot’s of Model Mayhem/Facebook/twitter SB’s out there who think that posting pictures on the internet and having Facebook followers makes them a model. They are wrong.

    Being attractive/cute and fit is the MINIMUM requirement for a SB.

    Being educated, well read, socially aware, and having a great personality is a plus but people who get paid to give talks, educate or entertain others are few and far between and you are probably not one of them.

  82. aliceS says:

    Ha ha Thank you Sweetie, I’m trying to improve my pro-russian English with Sugardoll. She was so nice, she agreed to speak on Skype. And Josh, I’m not trying to pass you off. You know exactly, what i think about her extreme posts. But you can’t say, that all is wrong. Even if it’s fiction or not. Attitude is attitude. And Sugardoll for example is hot candy. She knows what to do when it comes to some intimate confrontation, but she just don’t brag about it on the public sites. We all are different, we are all special in our ways, i just don’t like when people say. I’m the best. You all are just some old whores. This is when you notice the difference between maturity and teenagers brain :) we see things differently

  83. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll:

    “@alice
    I bet other SB’s are as freak as Sugary 😉 they just dont post it on the blog, they prefer to leave it in the room with their SD’s ;)”

    I wish it were true, mi amor! Most SBs are bland in believe in “here we are now entertain us.”

  84. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    Are you bringing her name repeatedly to piss me off? 😉

    I guess I will have to ignore her mention as much as I ignored her when she was posting. :)

  85. Josh says:

    aliceS:

    “You can’t denied Sugary sexual attitude is the best for high allowance.”

    Please allow me to edit the sentence for you:

    You can’t deny that Sugary’s fictional sexual attitude is the best for high wishful thinking allowance.

  86. Sugardoll says:

    *Understimate**

  87. Sugardoll says:

    Josh says:
    March 11, 2014 at 7:57 pm
    SBs would you please repeat after me…

    THE OLDER THE SD THE MORE MONEY AND LESS LIABILITY HE POTENTIALLY HAS

    **Once I was dating a man who was 65 yo, and after that i learn never sub estimate a man by his age.** he could give more, and better than one of my age, and i was 30. 😉 he made sure to get from me every money he was giving me lol.

    • Sugar Baby says:

      Do u have n e suggestions on helping me starting out with this new lifestyle, and finding me my sexy SD? I’m a sexy Italian who’s eager to please. ?

  88. Sugardoll says:

    aliceS says:
    March 11, 2014 at 7:00 pm
    You can’t denied Sugary sexual attitude is the best for high allowance. Even if you are not agreed with some of her advices, that part I will strongly defend. That girl got what is needed in all kind of sex fantasy.

    @alice
    I bet other SB’s are as freak as Sugary 😉 they just dont post it on the blog, they prefer to leave it in the room with their SD’s 😉

  89. Sugardoll says:

    newgirl says:
    @aliceS No experience, but the idea is that youth coupled with education might be worth something?

    **No offends, but theres SB’s here that are also professional 😉 so that might be worth something too.
    I also recommend you to include on you reading, The Kamasutra, and the 500 ways of kissing (you might need to know about it, and practice a lot lol)

    blondie says:
    March 11, 2014 at 6:45 pm
    I honestly think if a SB were making 10k a month then she have to be pretty close to an actual supermodel in looks and be absolutely unbelievable at giving head/amazing in bed etc, plus she would need an amazing personality too… pretty hard to get supermodel looks plus a super personality in the one package… it’s the same with really good looking men, they are often very boring, no fun and have no sense of humour. Shame ! Give me an average looking man who is fun and likes a laugh anyday.

    **Thumbs up to that**But sometimes you dont even need to have such a great body, some SD’s says their looking for fit, good looking girls, but i bet they dont want an empty head barbie, if you dont have a good personality and attitude, any SB will go too far.

  90. newgirl says:

    @Josh Thanks!

  91. Josh says:

    Hello sweetie. I am Bruce Willis’ fan since the Moonlighting days. :)

  92. sweetie says:

    Alice, I like what you had to say above. Good head on your shoulders. And your English is beyond cute. It’s like reading RussianSB’s posts. She doesn’t beat around the bush. It’s nice to see you’re letting it all out.

  93. Josh says:

    SBs would you please repeat after me…

    THE OLDER THE SD THE MORE MONEY AND LESS LIABILITY HE POTENTIALLY HAS
    THE OLDER THE SD THE MORE MONEY AND LESS LIABILITY HE POTENTIALLY HAS
    THE OLDER THE SD THE MORE MONEY AND LESS LIABILITY HE POTENTIALLY HAS

    Also, please realize that a younger SD may have it in the back of his mind that he is giving you money as well as sexual pleasure. The older SD knows that he is giving you money and not a whole lot of sexual pleasure.

    That’s where your deadbeat xbox playing dutch-dating stud comes into play, OK? 😉

  94. Josh says:

    @Moni

    I need specifics. Either you post you profile id here or email it to me. Search for 12390 on this page for my email. OK sweetheart? :)

  95. Josh says:

    @newgirl

    As far as your pictures, use the pictures with straight hair. They look much better on you. Also, use pictures where you are smiling big. You have an awesome smile. And use pictures with lots of lighting.

    Also, read my post from March 7, 2014 at 12:04 pm that talks about pictures.

    Best of luck. We can pick it back up tomorrow if you want.

  96. Josh says:

    Rhetorical Questions:

    1. Keeping in mind that the average arrangement lasts for 3-4 months, are many SBs trying to evaluate “chemistry” for a happily ever-after type of relationship?

    2. Should SBs be satisfied with “chemistry lite” for approximately 12-20 sexual plus not so sexual encounters?

  97. aliceS says:

    And those are basic needs, of course :)

  98. Moni says:

    @New girl

    From my experience being a model, great shape, college student gets you no where. 90% of the men on this site are very cheap. You’re actually lucky your in NY however at least they’re cuter there and probably with a bigger budget.

    @JOSH

    I’m a model college student and in FL. The only guys willing to give my asked budget of “pratical” arrangement are either old as hell or super far and the traveling thing scares me with all the sex trafficking stuff going on. I would need them to visit me for at least the first month before I consider. I’m just to scared.

    My profile just basically says exactly what I am. A college student that need help with tuition, labs, and books. I’m fun ex-cheerleader, talkative and outgoing. Blah Blah Blah. I feel like charging to even go on a date because most of them act so cheap until they meet me and then when they do they want to be all over me and jump my bones. It’s redic. I just want a cute. NORMAL, 30-45 year old who is okay to travel on weekends, so we can visit a theme park, make out, go shopping, make out, give me my allowance make out and where ever that leads too. I’m being highly blunt but i can’t find that sooo.. lol idk

  99. aliceS says:

    No need to scream lol. She didn’t marked substantial, it was high. I’m updated about nyc prices. And I’m still saying, in my opinion high is not possible with actual pictures. It’s like you want to sell some old truck in price of a new luxury car. And I’m not saying it’s wrong that she asks for this. I’m saying nah, won’t gonna happen, if she won’t change her first impression picture. And though my monthly needs ranges between 3k up to 5k euros per month, asking sd for such from my part would be crazy. Knowing I’m not going to be Sugary in bed. 5k EU it’s around 7k in dollars

  100. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    You know that Substantial = $5,000 to $10,000, yes? It is NOT $10,000 minimum.

    newgirl wanted $5,000 minimum AND she is positioned very well to get it. Do you know how much is the average rent of an apartment in Manhattan? $3800/month. 😉 Google “2014 average rent NYC”.

    The limitation newgirl is putting on herself though is that she wants “one special” happily ever-after arrangement. :)

  101. aliceS says:

    Physical aspects*

  102. aliceS says:

    In my opinion chemistry starts, when he open his mouth. If the thing he say, make sense and he can be charming, intelligent and funny. I think his physical are not that important. But if you met, super hot guy.and the only thing you hear is bullshit, in one second he became ugly. So, no chemistry for that guy. :)

  103. Josh says:

    @blondie

    How many arrangements have you made so far dear?

  104. aliceS says:

    You can’t denied Sugary sexual attitude is the best for high allowance. Even if you are not agreed with some of her advices, that part I will strongly defend. That girl got what is needed in all kind of sex fantasy.

  105. Josh says:

    Rhetorical Question: What is “chemistry” from SBs’ point of view?

    • Sugar Baby says:

      Josh, I believe people have chemistry when two people can laugh at silly jokes, agree on things they believe in and enjoy simple things in life. I believe other things can contribute to one another’s chemistry, that was the quickest thing I thawt of.

  106. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    “have sexual attitude like Sugary”

    Must you post erection deflating stuff? 😉

  107. aliceS says:

    I’m replacing Fatbastard today I guess :)

  108. aliceS says:

    Blondie I totally agree on that, someone who want to earn 10k need to look like Beyoncé, have sexual attitude like Sugary and brain like Riva Martinez

  109. blondie says:

    I honestly think if a SB were making 10k a month then she have to be pretty close to an actual supermodel in looks and be absolutely unbelievable at giving head/amazing in bed etc, plus she would need an amazing personality too… pretty hard to get supermodel looks plus a super personality in the one package… it’s the same with really good looking men, they are often very boring, no fun and have no sense of humour. Shame ! Give me an average looking man who is fun and likes a laugh anyday.

  110. aliceS says:

    Rihanna can easily get substantial. Though I don’t remember what she had there. And her new picture are good as well

  111. aliceS says:

    And I’m counting in euros.

  112. aliceS says:

    Josh I know. But be realistic. 10k just because someone is in school, read Iliad and have a Pussy? Uhm.. don’t think so. But you may try to convince me with more argument. Average rent in my city is 1400 for average apartment. Add to it utilities, gas, groceries, school, car etc and you have over 3000. Not to count outfit and the rest pleasurable visits in spa saloon or similar.

  113. Josh says:

    As you have noticed that newgirl is from New York and the other girl is in San Francisco.

  114. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    Sweetheart, as I wrote in my “positioning” post, everyone of you has to work with certain hard assets and liabilities. Being in New York, San Francisco, Los Angeles, London, Paris etc., is a combination of asset and liability. You get more from the SD but it will not go in your pocket. It is for the landlord and the utility companies and the other services, which you pay for.

    So an SB living in the Midwest of the United States may be making $3000/month compared to the one in New York making $5000/month. But at the end of the month the SB in the Midwest may end up saving more.

  115. aliceS says:

    Josh that girl from demo profile for newbie, perfectly match the high allowance, and even she put the substantial. Newbie, remember, that there is a lot of 20y.o girls, and I can even assume, that most of them are familiar with Homer, Odyssey etc. Why you assume other are uneducated desperate loose girls? It’s good to have high self esteem, but sometimes what too much, is overwhelming :) and I’m not trying to offend you in any way, just to help you to see it, from third part point of view.

  116. Josh says:

    If you cannot see the above profile then go to viewing your own profile and replace your profile number with this one.

  117. Josh says:

    Lifestyle expectation: Change to Substantial skip Moderate. 😉

  118. Josh says:

    @newgirl

    “I understand current political and economic issues, am well-read (including all of the classics – Voltaire, the Iliad, the Odyssey, Fielding, etc.),”

    Work this into your profile. :)

  119. Josh says:

    @newgirl

    Check this profile for 19Nine214Three for a photo idea without showing the face.

    Men need to see boob and butt. 😉

    I will give you more as/when needed.

  120. newgirl says:

    @aliceS No experience, but the idea is that youth coupled with education might be worth something? I understand current political and economic issues, am well-read (including all of the classics – Voltaire, the Iliad, the Odyssey, Fielding, etc.), and am not a serial SB or a ‘loose’ woman, so I’m hoping to appeal to elitism.

  121. Josh says:

    @newgirl

    Based on the information available on the profile, this is the best I can do. If you provide more information I will work that in. But with this profile and the pictures I will tell you to use, you will be on your way. :)
    Artistic Beauty with Scientific Brains

    I’m a currently an undergraduate student at an Ivy League university. I love modeling and acting a lot and wish to pursue them along with my education in biological sciences. I love reading, writing, baking, cooking, traveling, staying fit and making people–close to me–happy. If you want additional information, then please send me a message.

    Arrangement I am Seeking
    Lifestyle expectation Moderate or Substantial [Remove High]

    I am here to offset my college expenses. I’m looking for that one special mutually beneficial arrangement and will be everything you want me to be and fulfill “almost” 😉 all your wishes. Just tell me. I am eager please. I hope to hear from you soon!

    Please note that I am NOT an escort, I require a long-term arrangement, AND I am NOT looking for PFP.

  122. aliceS says:

    Newbie a good picture :) the one you put are kinda not too good. You ask for high allowance, I mean, really? What experience you have. What you wanna offer your daddy for that HIGH allowance. Just curious.

  123. DarkHorseSD says:

    “Mentor that! 😉 ”

    Yeah, man, I know. My mentoring is overexercised off the Internet right now.

  124. aliceS says:

    DarkHorse I might, if he help me to get there. He is funny. Older. In a good shape. And I guess he likes me :)

  125. newgirl says:

    @aliceS @Josh What makes a good profile picture – without showing my face?

  126. DarkHorseSD says:

    ” pretty rare though right? ”

    Yes, it is pretty rare for a profile to actually contain someone of model material.

  127. Josh says:

    “@josh sorry but I don’t feel like looking for a specific post at a specific date and time.”

    Mentor that! 😉

  128. Josh says:

    @newgirl.

    Sweetheart, I need to see your other pictures. As Alice observed already, this is NOT a good main picture.

    Search for 12390 on this blog page and get my email address. I will not communicate with you through the email unless you have something personal to discuss. Most everything I will post here so that other SBs may benefit.

    OK, dear?

  129. Exotic_SB says:

    @darkhorseSD I see… pretty rare though right? It’s so difficult for me to believe that some SB’s actually get the high 10k allowance they ask for on their profile. Must be luck. It’s hard enough finding a REAL sd on here, let alone one that is willing to pay 10k.

    @josh sorry but I don’t feel like looking for a specific post at a specific date and time.

  130. DarkHorseSD says:

    Alice, darling, what are you going to do with some guy in Australia? Are you planning a trip there for vacation?

  131. aliceS says:

    Not to be rude girl, but with that picture you will barely get practical. You are a model! Not a victim. Or is just me?

  132. aliceS says:

    Hi guys. I think 26 emails back and forth between me and that hot guy from Australia within 24h, is a good sign? :)

  133. newgirl says:

    @Josh
    Thanks, I’m 2001729

  134. DarkHorseSD says:

    Exoticsb, in NYC a true model around 20 can get 5K/mo or more. Lets see what we’ve got to work with.

  135. Josh says:

    @Exotic_SB

    Contrary to popular belief held by some idiots and wishful thinking fiction writers, I don’t post blog entries here because I have nothing better to do. 😉

    Please read my post on March 11, 2014 at 10:47 am. 😉

  136. Exotic_SB says:

    isn’t it a rarity to get 5k a month?… If I were to ask that exact question @josh would’ve helped me out of that dream immediately
    Josh, I’m waiting for you to help her :p LOL

  137. Josh says:

    SD2013 is o so 2013.

  138. Josh says:

    @newgirl

    Please post your profile # or email me. I will tell you what to do make your profile stand out for muchos dineros. 😉

  139. Sugardoll says:

    newgirl says:
    @Josh – Can you help me find a SD, too? I’m new (^the name), 20, a model, a college student, in the NYC area, and am looking for at least 5k in actual allowance a month. Help?

    ** Josh which Catalog you are going to send her SD2013 or SD2014, ?? lol

  140. Josh says:

    Alice, I liked the video as well. My other comment was before watching the video. :)

  141. newgirl says:

    @Josh – Can you help me find a SD, too? I’m new (^the name), 20, a model, a college student, in the NYC area, and am looking for at least 5k in actual allowance a month. Help?

  142. aliceS says:

    DarkHorse Thank you 😉 Glad you like it. I know how to be funny sometimes, and I’m not afraid to use it. Though it seems to me, that most of the SA gentleman’s don’t have same sense of humor :)

  143. DarkHorseSD says:

    Alice: your video is very funny.

  144. DarkHorseSD says:

    Sweets: give him the boot. He is only here for a GF, and I’m assuming you are not here to be a GF.

  145. flyR says:

    “”We’ve been on 4 dates and he will not bring up the money aspect only the physical. We have a lot of chemistry and he has tried to sleep with me. I’m trying to be patient and have a problem asking. I’m at the point where I need to know or cut my losses. advice? How should I bring this up because e clearly has no intention of doing so…”””

    “” Thank you for the nice evening, Through your silence it sounds like you are not prepared to commit to an allowance which is the reason both of us are here.. Why don’t you give it some thought and if you are prepared to make a commitment, send me a note and we can talk further. “”

    He may be lonely , a tire kicker or hoping for a freebie demo ride. Without being confrontational let him understand that without an assured allowance there’s nothing here. If he is bashful or feels that thee allowance will jeopardize the pedestal, you might shake him out of it .

    the best is that he comes back with an allowance and performs
    the worst is that he comes back with an allowance and does not perform after the first meet.

  146. aliceS says:

    Hi KatPaw have a great week as well

  147. Sugardoll says:

    Im considering changing my pictures, i will get new ones.

  148. aliceS says:

    Sugardoll
    I’m with you on it. I’m getting tired of not serious people. All great guys are from Australia, and to enter Australia I need a visa :(

  149. KatPaw says:

    @Sugardoll have to shift through many many rocks before you find gold.

  150. Sugardoll says:

    Uggh… i think i will stop screening for a while, tired of talking with so many Sd’s and still not an arrangement, sucks

  151. Josh says:

    Gary Chapman and Jennifer Thomas:

    The five basic languages of apology are: expressing regret, accepting responsibility, making restitution, genuinely repenting, and requesting forgiveness. If you receive an apology that omits your apology language, chances are you won’t fully accept it or even recognize it as an apology.

  152. Josh says:

    I like. 😉

  153. aliceS says:

    Josh it’s a model :)

  154. Josh says:

    Take two: 😉

    The more you can tell us about the above, the more we may be able to help you position yourself better to get the kind of SDs you may be seeking.

  155. Josh says:

    @Moni

    Mentoring lesson: The kind of SDs finding you or the kind of SDs you are finding is the result of what can be broadly described as “positioning”

    Your age, location, pictures, and the data and text in your profile heavily affect your position in the sugarworld.

    The more you can tell us about the above the more, we may be able to help yourself position better to get the kind of SDs you may be seeking.

  156. Sweets says:

    We’ve been on 4 dates and he will not bring up the money aspect only the physical. We have a lot of chemistry and he has tried to sleep with me. I’m trying to be patient and have a problem asking. I’m at the point where I need to know or cut my losses. advice? How should I bring this up because e clearly has no intention of doing so….

  157. Moni says:

    Hello all, I’m back and yet still without an SD. I’m actually starting to lose hope.

    No one looks like their pictures or they’re crazy. Is it really this hard to find a normal descent looking SD?

  158. Josh says:

    Nice avatar Alice. Who’s that?

  159. Josh says:

    This is from 4 YEARS AGO
    Travel Guidelines for SB’s

    It’s been pointed out on the blog that it’s better for newbie SB’s to have the first meeting with a pot SD on her home turf because too many things can go wrong when you travel to meet someone for the first time. There are many blog stories about first meetings gone bad where a SB traveled to meet a pot SD and the meeting was planned to last several days. To spend that much time with someone you’re meeting for the first time is usually not a good idea not only because too many things can go wrong, it can also cause expectations and pressure to build and make the situation uncomfortable. What if the person is not as advertised in the profile or the chemistry isn’t there? It’s not uncommon to think everything will go according to plan but only to find out that’s not the case when you get there.

    Having said that, if a SB decides to travel to meet a pot SD for the first time, there are some guidelines she can follow to make the process less risky. It doesn’t guarantee a good meeting, but at least she is well prepared if things go wrong. Also, if someone chooses not to follow the guidelines then she should be fully aware of the risks she is taking.

    Make sure round trip airfare is paid for by the SD. Or, ask him to send you the funds (ie by Paypal) for you to book your own ticket.
    Verify that a hotel room is reserved in your name and paid for by the SD. Or, ask him to send you the funds (ie by Paypal) for you to make your own reservation. Do not plan to stay at his place.
    Ask him to cover the cost of transportation from home to the airport (or parking at the airport), and airport to the hotel.
    Have spending money and credit card with you just in case you need to change your return flight or hotel, and for meals and incidentals in case you end up on your own.
    Let someone you trust know your itinerary and periodically check in with her so that she knows where you are and that you’re ok. Check the blog to see if sugars will be in the area you’re visiting. It’s always good to have a local contact for safety and advice.
    Make sure expectations of the meeting are clearly communicated, understood, and agreed to by both parties before the trip.
    Trust your gut instinct and don’t do anything you’re not comfortable with. Always remind yourself a true SD will respect your safety and your integrity.
    Allow plenty of time for air travel. Flights are frequently delayed due to weather, congestion, maintenance, and other reasons. If you have to be home by certain time, book an earlier flight back to allow room for delays.

    – SD Guru
    – Midwest SB

  160. KatPaw says:

    Meow! Hello sugars! Hope everyone is having a good week.

  161. aliceS says:

    @Zack Yeah, Sugary’s if I’m not wrong.

  162. Sugardoll says:

    Zack says:
    …there’s some good advice around here somewhere about who buys tickets in whose name and having a clear exit…

    Thanks Zacky, going to take a look and read in advance .. xoxo

  163. Zack says:

    …there’s some good advice around here somewhere about who buys tickets in whose name and having a clear exit…

  164. Sugardoll says:

    POT SD in AU
    Wow, u have a fine body … Great curves, am a boob man
    How so we become more acquainted?

    **Tittis power *** hopefully flying this boobs to Au.. LOL

  165. Sugardoll says:

    Josh says:
    March 11, 2014 at 5:40 am
    What are the pros and cons of porn v. sugar?

    Porn
    You on TV/Videos
    You are not discrete everybody knows you over the world
    STD’s
    Does not empower you as a woman/men
    Fuck with a bunch

    SB’s
    Discrete
    Not all are Whores (professional Escort,prostitutes)
    We spoil our SD’s
    STD’s
    Does not empower as woman/men
    Fuck a bunch
    Diners/drinks (are counted like allowances)
    SD’s count every penny spent.
    And we still treated like whores.

    I know theres more, but thats what i got for now…

  166. aliceS says:

    For how much Josh hehe. We learn fast :)

  167. Josh says:

    I’d rather press some boobs though. 😉

  168. Sugardoll says:

    @alice
    Frank press my name for more drama :)

    LOL LOL LOL

  169. Josh says:

    What are the pros and cons of porn v. sugar?

  170. aliceS says:

    Frank press my name for more drama :)

  171. Exotic_SB says:

    @sugardoll

    “Just watching Dr Drew, their talking about a girl which is 18 and its doing 60000 a year with porn to pay her tuition. and some SD’s think we whores cuz they spend a couple of dollars.. Indeed .lol”

    60k? excuse me?! Hell if only I could make that much being a SB lol
    Anyhow, some SD’s are married and have multiple SB’s. It’s pretty clear to me who the whores are. 😀

  172. onyx_percula says:

    @ Exotic_SB — In my case I fly her to me about once a month for a few days, typically Tuesday thru Sunday.

    @ Sugardoll — Thanks dear.

    @ SouthernSB — What can I say, I just love women.

  173. newgirl says:

    I need a NYC SD to pay my rent and living costs, too…like 5k a month lol. How do I find one for that kind of budget that isn’t splenda? Help!

  174. Sugardoll says:

    oh 😡 was suppose to be a kiss… :-*

  175. Sugardoll says:

    Frank says:
    Did I stumble onto the wrong blog, A blog where SD’s and SB’s are getting along?
    ***No u didnt,

    Where is the drama, the fireworks.
    **Do you miss it? we can make some drama for you, LOL

    Oh well, guess I’ll have to wait a couple of hours for those to start again.

    **Come and smell the flowers ! 😡

  176. Sugardoll says:

    Just watching Dr Drew, their talking about a girl which is 18 and its doing 60000 a year with porn to pay her tuition. and some SD’s think we whores cuz they spend a couple of dollars.. Indeed .lol

  177. Frank says:

    Did I stumble onto the wrong blog, A blog where SD’s and SB’s are getting along?

    Where is the drama, the fireworks.

    Oh well, guess I’ll have to wait a couple of hours for those to start again.

  178. Josh says:

    Jenna is da bomb. 😉

  179. Sugardoll says:

    aliceS says:
    Who is she? That Jenna?

    Shes a girl josh is obsessed with.. lol

  180. aliceS says:

    Who is she? That Jenna?

  181. Josh says:

    “I used to think girls were crazy but now I know they are bat-shit insane.” Jenna Marbles

  182. Sugardoll says:

    @alice
    Josh says:
    “Josh good we don’t have to pay you ;)”

    Not yet at least. 😉 LOL!

    **Actually pay him for what, he just used my profile as a canvas, im the one who should get pay…so sad, u are not SD’s lmao!

  183. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    “Josh good we don’t have to pay you ;)”

    Not yet at least. 😉 LOL!

  184. Josh says:

    @thatgirlispoisin

    “Kudos to @Josh for taking the time out tonight and and chatting with me via his now public email. He gave some very sound advice. You are a gentleman and a scholar.”

    You are most welcome dear. I am glad that I was able to help you with your specific arrangement related questions. Feel free to ask additional arrangement related advice in the future. If you want me to look at your profile let me know as well.

    Best of success in the sugarworld. :)

  185. aliceS says:

    Josh good we don’t have to pay you 😉

  186. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll:

    “If i cut it in half it will come back to my same old profile, LOL…”

    Do you want me to shorten it for you?

  187. Josh says:

    By the way, my profile is VERY short, and I think I am going to make it even shorter. 😉

  188. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    “Sugardoll I told you :) he is the master of saying our thoughts better :)”

    Yes mam. That’s why I get furious when people waste SBs time and their money-making opportunities by writing fiction here instead of helping SBs out in real way.

  189. Sugardoll says:

    Josh says:
    March 10, 2014 at 4:29 pm
    @Sugardoll

    Please keep in mind that your existing profile and my edits are too long for an effective profile. You might want to cut it down to almost half. :)

    If i cut it in half it will come back to my same old profile, LOL…

  190. Josh says:

    U da babe!!!

    I did not want to impose my ideas on your profile. I just edited it with American-style diction.

    Again, it is TOO LONG. Use your own judgement to reduce the amount of text.

    For example, do you want to talk that much about mentor-ship? Also, do you want to make any references to dang escorts at all? It’s YOUR profile, and you are the only one who can make those decisions.

  191. aliceS says:

    Sugardoll I told you :) he is the master of saying our thoughts better :)

  192. Sugardoll says:

    @josh
    Actually you didnt change it, you fixed it with better words, thanks, i can work it out

  193. Sugardoll says:

    I loveeeee it..!!! <3 thanks mi amor… u da best (my dominican getto english style)

  194. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    Please keep in mind that your existing profile and my edits are too long for an effective profile. You might want to cut it down to almost half. :)

  195. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll.

    This is my take on your profile. Use what you want. Discard the rest. Best of success regardless of your adaptation of any of my edits:

    I am down to earth, well-educated, outgoing and happy woman. I am an optimist. I love the good that life has to offer. I have classy taste, but I am NOT a shopaholic. I like to buy quality products that I may enjoy over a longer period of time.

    I have never been married. I have no kids. I have goals in life and I like to be productive on a daily basis. I work hard, I don’t go through life just thinking that I am cute and sexy, so things should fall in my lap. I also believe that success has no age limit.

    What I am looking for

    The reason I am on this site is that I moved to the US less than 2 years ago, and it is hard to start from ZERO. I am looking for a companion, friend, boyfriend, and/or sugar daddy. I am open to any kind of relationship or arrangement.

    That said, I am neither a pro, nor I am an escort or anything related to that lifestyle. So if you are looking for sex for $$$, I am not the right woman for you. Also, if you are looking for one night stand against dinner and a movie, then I am not the right woman for you either.

    However, if you are willing to help me towards my life goals then you are more than welcome into my life. I prefer someone who can show me how to fish compared to someone who serves fish on a dinner plate to me. I believe in give and take. So if you “spoil” me with necessities and good things in life along with mentoring me toward my life goals, I will return the favor by spoiling you back.

    I want a relationship/arrangement that is stress-free, exciting and mutually beneficial. I want to find a sincere, mature gentleman that would be a great mentor for my career endeavors.

    Other than sex for $$$ and booty calls, I am open to suggestions, such as, serious friends with benefits (both ways), a long-term SB/SD arrangement, etc. I want a man who is interested in getting to know me, and I am interested in knowing him. So we must have strong chemistry before we go any further in our courtship.

    That ideal man is funny, carries interesting conversations, well-educated and most importantly respectful towards me. And I will reciprocate.

    Like any other woman, communication is very important to me. Not the “we have to talk” type of communication LOL! but to be able to text and call each other once in a while.

  196. aliceS says:

    Sugardoll I think Josh s experience is beyond my needs lol

  197. Sugardoll says:

    @josh
    I think she wants to get hire for some weird things, cuz she wants to learn more positions now that she is stuck on the missionary position lol

  198. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    “I don’t know. As my profile says I’m open minded :) invent something :)”

    LOL!

  199. aliceS says:

    Hehe just like you did :) one sd asked me, for having sex with him, with dildo. Though, dildo wasn’t meant for me. It’s weird, cause he was very nice. Not gross, he knew it wasn’t something usual, but I kinda liked him. :) we never spoked again. I wonder what happened to him, and did he find his perfect SB

  200. SouthernSB says:

    How do you make the smiley faces? 😉

  201. SouthernSB says:

    OK, maybe not weird, but it was quite gross.

  202. aliceS says:

    I don’t know. As my profile says I’m open minded :) invent something :)

  203. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    “So who wants to hire me?”

    Hire you for what dear?

  204. aliceS says:

    So who wants to hire me?

  205. Sugardoll says:

    Josh says:
    @Sugardoll

    “**Thats not weird at all** lol”

    If it was NOT weird she would have given details, yes SouthernSB? 😉

    **I didnt say was weird for her, i mean wasnt going to be weird for me lol

  206. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    “**Thats not weird at all** lol”

    If it was NOT weird she would have given details, yes SouthernSB? 😉

  207. Sugardoll says:

    Josh says:
    @SouthernSB

    That’s pretty weird s*** if you ask me. 😉

    **Thats not weird at all** lol

  208. Josh says:

    Aww…;)

  209. SouthernSB says:

    : ) Kisses Josh*

  210. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB

    That’s pretty weird s*** if you ask me. 😉

  211. SouthernSB says:

    I had a summer fling with a subby once. I won’t even mention what he was into. It was quite “interesting.” But in the interest of the blog I won’t call anything “weird.”

  212. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    I did enjoy Zack’s comeback though. :)

  213. Sugardoll says:

    Josh says:
    March 10, 2014 at 2:05 pm
    @Zack

    Would it be “weird” when people actually start understanding what you write? 😉

    hahaha im still laughing like crazy with this, thank god am all alone in here cuz im literaly with my tears out laughing…. i didnt understand what he wrote before either…lol LOL

    @ALICE
    No, I was away from my laptop on a phone call with family, i call you back in a sec.

    @Josh
    I gave out my serum here on the blog, and i wasnt joking about it…. 😉

  214. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    “**Ive never done yoga, and believe me I do a lot of things LOL ;)”

    Doesn’t surprise me at all. You also look half your age, mi amor. 😉

  215. Zack says:

    It would be simply incomprehensible, J:P

  216. Josh says:

    @Zack

    Would it be “weird” when people actually start understanding what you write? 😉

  217. aliceS says:

    @Sugardoll are you mad at me? I tried to call you back and texting you, but no answer :(( if I said something inappropriate I’m sorry

  218. Sugardoll says:

    @Josh
    Ladies and Gentlemen
    Before attempting Kamasutra please ensure that you have some training in yoga. 😉
    **Ive never done yoga, and believe me I do a lot of things LOL 😉

    Exotic_SB says:
    March 10, 2014 at 1:00 pm
    Speaking of positions. The weirdest thing I’ve done with my SD is spanking with a leather spanking tool thing while role playing, it was hilarious and kind of awkward LOL
    ***I still dont find my Freak SD ..

    sweetie says:
    March 10, 2014 at 1:06 pm
    Alice, Sugardoll, and Frank – I like Bruce Willis, that’s him in the picture.

    **I bet theres a lot of better pictures of him than that one, i can even tell thats him, looks like an old creepy guy to me!! lol

    Josh says:
    March 10, 2014 at 1:11 pm
    I am pretty much into “regular” stuff.

    **Noway, i dont like regular stuff are boring, i remember watching a porn movie with a BF and try all the same positions.!!

  219. Zack says:

    Is it a bad sign when your filter for “weird” is not a matter of preferences but instead rests on consideration of what is physically possible?

  220. Josh says:

    On the other hand, most everything I wanted to do was “weird” as far as my ex was concerned. So half of our sex life was “weird” 😉

  221. aliceS says:

    Lol, lucky you. I don’t have nothing to share yet :) the most shocking was visit in that hotel room, but no sex was given :)

  222. Exotic_SB says:

    @josh yes, that seems pretty out of the ordinary but not extreme though. One guy wanted me to do something to him that id rather not mention, I’m scarred for life LOL. Needless to say I never contacted him again. Oh and btw, I didn’t do what he wanted me to.

  223. Josh says:

    I am pretty much into “regular” stuff.

    I guess the “weirdest” thing I have done is when my yoga expert GF arched backwards on all fours exposing herself and we did it. 😉

  224. sweetie says:

    Alice, Sugardoll, and Frank – I like Bruce Willis, that’s him in the picture.

  225. Exotic_SB says:

    Speaking of positions. The weirdest thing I’ve done with my SD is spanking with a leather spanking tool thing while role playing, it was hilarious and kind of awkward LOL
    He’s a gift SD though. I’d like to have an allowance instead but I guess this is ok too.

    How about you guys?
    SD’s what is the strangest thing you’ve done with your SB?

  226. Josh says:

    Ladies and Gentlemen

    Before attempting Kamasutra please ensure that you have some training in yoga. 😉

  227. Sugardoll says:

    @Alice
    Not that I’m stuck with missionary position, but well. ..

    haha dam alice, i will send you some copy of the Kamasutra sex positions book lol lol

  228. aliceS says:

    Southern SB, I agree as well with some part presented by Sugary. But I’m not agreed with some extreme sex views or some panic attacks about Josh. Other than that, I think females here can demand some things from SD. But as you said, the more we want the higher SD’S expectations are. That’s why I’m not the best candidate for really rich ones. Not that I’m stuck with missionary position, but well. ..

  229. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    Wow! I never suspected Josh was THAT rich!!! :D”

    So the more bullshit you put out the richer you are considered to be? 😉

  230. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB

    “@Josh
    …even Sugary was doing things that was beyond my realm of comprehension.”

    I have NO interest in the fiction that literary character SugarySpicey wrote/writes/will wright. 😉

  231. DarkHorseSD says:

    “the richer the man the more bullshit you have to put up with”

    While that is probably modestly correlated, I suspect the stronger correlation is the richer the OFFER, the more you have to put up with.

    I dread the day I am no longer rich enough to offer what it takes to put up with me.

  232. Jj says:

    @Beach Come on down the Gulf Beaches in SW Florida are fantastic and Miami is only Gator Alley away!! 😉

  233. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB

    “The good thing is that we never got the conversation farther than talking to each other by way of the site.”

    Hmmm, so that was merely chit chat from some “creep” you did not want to have anything to do with, and NOT an offer from a real life POT SD?

  234. DarkHorseSD says:

    “the richer the man the more bullshit you have to put up with”

    Wow! I never suspected Josh was THAT rich!!! 😀

  235. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    Anyone I am just communicating with is merely a prospect or a lead, if you will, in the business lingo. There is no POT SB here. She is just one of the millions on SA.

    POT SB is someone I am on my way to meet and greet, I am meeting and greeting, or someone I have already met and agreed on an allowance, and we have not gone to our first date under arrangement yet.

    After the deed is done she is my SB.

  236. SouthernSB says:

    @alice
    The good thing is that we never got the conversation farther than talking to each other by way of the site. That way he couldn’t gum up my real e-mail with crap or stalk me over the phone. I ended up telling him off and blocking him. Seriously, if I learned anything from the few months I’ve been here I’ve learned that the richer the man the more bullshit you have to put up with. I have to give credit again to SugarSpicey for that bit of advice.

  237. DarkHorseSD says:

    I wish we could redefine some of the language we use about what is going on.

    For example: POT … it’s current usage is for someone who sent a wink. Or maybe the person you sent a wink to!

    No, you have a person who sent you a wink, or maybe a personally written email, or maybe two or three.

    When do you have a POT ? Maybe when you’ve set a date? Traded phone numbers? Maybe when you have met for the first time and something solid has been proposed???

  238. aliceS says:

    Dammit, I meant @SoutherSB

  239. SouthernSB says:

    @Josh
    Look I’m not beyond a man getting what he wants and even Sugary was doing things that was beyond my realm of comprehension. I don’t think you were here to read her blog. There is a woman for every man (even me at my advanced age). I know that girls have their eyes on the stars, but like the Stones say, “You can’t always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you might just get what you need,” and that right there is why I’m jumping back into the bowl.

  240. aliceS says:

    @Beach_girl that’s awful, he asked you for such. And I’m not sure if it’s more awful or scary. Maybe both

  241. aliceS says:

    Sweetie you are a girl?? I thought you were a men lol. How old are you :)

  242. DarkHorseSD says:

    “I had a POT offer me ” …

    It amazes me how many “examples” of the sd/SB world begin with these words.

  243. SouthernSB says:

    @Onyx-the last time I heard a story that complicated I was watching a talk show about beauty queens, high class escorts, trips to Bahrain and Princes who named their yachts “Titty One” and “Titty Two.” Are you sure you are not some Gulf state ultra-rich Prince? Because it seems you have quite the harem going on in your life.

  244. Josh says:

    @SouthernSB

    The reason these high dollar arrangements offered is because the SD is looking for something, which is NOT readily available and he has to up the ante to get it. Supply and demand rules…

    Regular one-on-one heterosexual arrangements has a reasonable limit, which this particular 7K-earning SB could not go beyond even after juggling multiple SDs.

    That is very telling about the reality on the ground regardless of the wishful thinking fiction, which has been written on this blog for months if not years.

  245. Beach_Girl says:

    FBSD~ I know right… I’m not a happy girl… I need a SD in a warm sunny place 😀

  246. SouthernSB says:

    “*She said she read a blog when a SB was claiming she was getting 10k.
    Ive been also looking for info and i wonder where those SD’s are, theres a video on youtube of a girl saying her SD wanted to buy her a Lexus..i havent even find a SD who gives me 3k … so where are those SD’s they talk about lol”
    @Sugardoll
    I had a POT offer me a whatever kind of luxury car I wanted, a house to stay in while I was in his neck of the woods, shopping sprees, and 30,000 after my time with him was over. The only thing he wanted was for me to bring my adult daughter or my sister along. He said that he had had that kind of sugar setup before. That was a deal breaker for me. I’m no prude and I will try just about anything once, but I’m not pulling my sisters or my adult daughter into a sugar relationship with me. Ugh.

  247. frank says:

    Why u got a man as an avatar pic?

    Yes Sweetie, I have often wondered that myself

  248. Sugardoll says:

    sweetie says:
    Sugardoll, I am a lady into men.

    **Opss..!! My bad, I always though you was a man, i dont know maybe cuz of your avatar or i just got that in my head lol i was also going to ask you if that was you. lol

    Why u got a man as an avatar pic?

  249. Exotic_SB says:

    I need to find me a local @onyx SD. Will be difficult because there are none in my area :(
    Not sure what a long distance relationship is like because my current SD is local. How do those work btw?

  250. Sugardoll says:

    @Josh says:
    @Sugardoll,
    PS: Now you check your spam folder. 😉

    I always check all my mails spam folders, cuz sometimes i set some emails to be sent there that i dont want to get on the inbox. 😉

  251. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll,

    I had one email in the spam folder. I replied to it. Please check and respond.

    Thanks

    PS: Now you check your spam folder. 😉

  252. sweetie says:

    :) I know, but something close to it is possible.

  253. Sugardoll says:

    @sweetie

    Yes, thanks , i know…!! but i think anyways its kind of hard to find a SD with exactly all the things i want.

  254. sweetie says:

    Sugardoll – @Sweetie “Sugardoll, you can’t force it. Have patience.

    HUH?!! force who? didnt get you!!”

    I meant you can’t force an arrangement to be what you want it to be if the other person sees things differently. You really want an arrangement, as you have stated, and the one you have you’re uncertain of because the SD has you confused. Since distance is an issue as far as blog SDs are concerned, be patient and keep looking. You’ll find the SD you want.

  255. Sugardoll says:

    @alice, thats good my profile could help you, thats why i posted cuz i know its good so it can help some new girls.

    @Onyx
    That what you doing its awesome, i really wish i could find a SD willing to do that, but I know it will take me time, i dont have any problem with moving or relocating by next year when i finish my actual degree, but i would like to find someone locally to have a SD/BF/FB situation, i was talking to my first SD trying to drive him into something like that but i think he is not interested, even when he tells me he wants me a lot, i dont think he is willing to do anything like that, im little bit jealous too but as long as my SD treats me fine, and give me my time, i dont think i will have any problems.

  256. aliceS says:

    Sorry about mistakes, my phone goes crazy sometimes

  257. onyx_percula says:

    @ Sugardoll —

    My SB in FL I have been talking to since last summer. We made an arrangement recently that is a long distance one for the time being. This fall after she has met the commitments she has already made, she will be moving from FL into my home. The intended duration is 3-5 years (until she graduates college), hopefully that will work, but that is a long time for a young girl…

    The SB I just made an arrangement with will be moving in at the end of the month and will live with me till my FL SB is ready to move in at which time she will move out on her own.

    Do they all know about each other? All but one, and she doesn’t want to know, its a very NSA arrangement. Basically she just wants me for allowance and sex, come to her, dominate her, tie her up and well you know 😉

    Are there jealousy issues? Yes and no.

    My 1/2 SB/GF/FWB/FB or what ever the hell she is termed as is a mean spiteful nasty jealous manipulative bitch! She is kinda old fashion and instinctual in her response to men, she protects what is her’s rather it really is her’s or needs protecting or not, haha. The hard part is she wants to know what or maybe better put who I’m doing, but goes a little nuts with the information.

    My SB in FL is saying fine with open relationship and I know she means it on some levels, on others though I think it bothers her too. Not too concerned, we will work it out, we haven’t found anything we can’t come to terms with yet… What will be interesting is the 1/2 SB and this SB have voiced an interest in each other, platonic and not so platonic… We will all get together next month, not sure what to expect, catfight, threeway or “no boys allowed, get lost”, lol.

    The new SB is fine with it. She is in it for the benefit I am providing her, and as long as I treat her nicely there is little I could do to offend her.

    The last SB, we see each other whenever the urge hits us. She made it a part of the arrangement the first night we were together… “I don’t care if you’re with someone else, BUT! I never want to hear about it. If you start talking to me about other girls you fuck its over!”. She is unique to say the least! We barely communicate expect to setup meetings, she really only wants to go to my hotel, get roughed up a little, get tied up and used all night, get a slap on the ass and kiss goodbye till next time. This is exactly how she wants things, but yet doesn’t want to know about others…

  258. aliceS says:

    @Sugardoll
    Girl, you did a great job. Josh maybe helpful with grammar. And then just hit the enter to add it. I’d move the phrase about escorts at the end, and modify starting from 0 to fro enamel I’m ready for a new start with someone who is…. blah blah blah stress free, open minded and would like to have some mutual arrangement.

  259. FatBastardSD says:

    @Beach_Girl

    Enjoying the snow? Only 4 more months till summer for you :-).

    @Sweetie

    “SDs on the blog, I don’t know them other than from the blog and that’s enough for me.”

    Ouch! Can’t say i blame you though :-).

  260. Sugardoll says:

    Just added some things to my profile, now i think its exactly what i want.

    Very down to earth, outgoing, happy and always positive, well educated and family oriented, I love the good life, I have expensive likes, but I also have my priorities, so im not a shopaholic.

    Ive never been married, no kids, moved to this country less than 2 yrs and its hard to start from 0. I have goals in life and I like being productive, I work hard, I don’t go through life just thinking im cute and sexy. I believe success got no age. So if you are also willing to help me get to that path you are more than welcome, I prefer someone who show me how to fish, than someone who puts the fish on my hands.

    Life is a two way road, so spoiling the person next to me and making him feel special is something I love doing.

    What im looking

    Im looking for a companion, friend, boyfriend, open to any kind, im not a pros, or an escort, or anything related. So if you are looking for one night stand, or just a Bang, im not the right for you.

    A relationship that was stress-free, exciting and mutually beneficial. I wanted to find a sincere, mature gentleman that would be a great mentor for my future career endeavors and to be spoiled along the way. And who can be honest about what he is looking for and then about how he feels.

    Im open to any situation, no booty calls…but serious fwb or long term sd/sb with someone whos interested in getting to know each other and wants to spend time with me and do fun things together. thus someone able to keep an interesting conversation, funny, well educated, respectful would be the perfect match for me.

    Communication is very important to me, and i completely understand we all busy people in here, but be able at least to text and / or call once in a while.

  261. Josh says:

    “I used to think girls were crazy but now I know they are bat-shit insane.” Jenna Marbles

    1. Who agrees with Jenna Marbles, and why?

    2. Who doesn’t agree with Jenna Marbles, and why?

    😉

  262. Josh says:

    @Beach_Girl:

    Would you like to have a nice head massage dear? 😉

  263. Sugardoll says:

    Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    “Sugars and bitters” :) fixed is one letter was the concerned…lol

    Or maybe “Sugars and Bitters”

    Or to further qualify it:

    Sussy Sugars and Bitchy Bitters?

    Or to go all out with

    Successful Sassy Sugars and Broke Bitchy Bitters?

    Here too good morning everyone!! lol

  264. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    “Sugars and biters”

    Or maybe “Sugars and Bitters”

    Or to further qualify it:

    Sussy Sugars and Bitchy Bitters?

    Or to go all out with

    Successful Sassy Sugars and Broke Bitchy Bitters?

  265. Exotic_SB says:

    @sugardoll you’ve made me curious. what did you write on your profile? :)

  266. Sugardoll says:

    @sweetie says:

    Sugardoll, you can’t force it. Have patience.

    HUH?!! force who? didnt get you!!

    Good morning to All…Sugars and biters..!! haha

  267. aliceS says:

    Gtt_envy regardless to my 10k comment, well first of all. It was a sarcasm. I meant, that the girl with multiple SD’S, didn’t made a good deal. Since she is making only 7k/per month. I wonder,why no one noticed it. And I’m against multiple SD. I think most of us, forgot, it’s not a job, or is it?

  268. Beach_Girl says:

    Sweetie~ I’ve been ok, it’s still too cold. I think I need a warm place to go soon 😀

    Josh~ you seem like you are looking for a fight? Maybe you need a blog break or something… An blog intervention… Step away from the computer! lol
    What does it matter to you How many arrangements someone had? Does it make a different for the advice? I think common sense is a must and some seem to lack it!

    Hope everyone is doing good.
    Have a good night sugars 😀

  269. sweetie says:

    Josh, lots of hypotheticals there and I doubt it is related to the “advice” you didn’t give me.

    Sugardoll, you can’t force it. Have patience.

  270. Sugardoll says:

    @josh
    13 hrs ago, so dont tell me u didnt get it.. lol

  271. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    “I wonder why he answer to everybody, and not me….josh”

    I did evaluate you profile earlier and it looked grand. Did you send me an email, mi amor?

  272. Sugardoll says:

    I wonder why he answer to everybody, and not me….josh

  273. thatgirlispoisin says:

    Kudos to @Josh for taking the time out tonight and and chatting with me via his now public email. He gave some very sound advice. You are a gentleman and a scholar.

  274. Sugardoll says:

    Got you, ive been thinking to find my SD here on the blog, but their limited, and most of them are way to far from me. :(

  275. Josh says:

    @sweetie

    I DID NOT ask you to take my advice. I won’t dare give you any sugaring advice. You have been heavily influenced with mega bad advice, in my opinion.

    I simply directed you to Sugardoll, who last I checked is an SB.

    “Could it be” that you received such a bad advice that, that even if it felt good, you have not been able to find an arrangement because the advice was impractical to start off with?

    The above is NOT an advice. Take it as an opinion to “maybe” get you thinking.

  276. sweetie says:

    Sugardoll, I am a lady into men. So, no, SBs on the blog don’t interest me sexually. SDs on the blog, I don’t know them other than from the blog and that’s enough for me. I wouldn’t want my dirty laundry out and about, anyway. The ones I actually met were not what I wanted, it turned out.

  277. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    “btw i dont know where u are, cuz u say we far but i dont even know where u at, or seen you, thats not fair.. lol”

    I am approximately 1200 miles away from you, mi amor. ;(

  278. sweetie says:

    Now who’s being condescending? It’s ok, you’re the guru, especially when it comes to what’s best for SBs. We’ll just take your word for it. God forbid SBs know what they want, right? As long as you have the dough, they’ll just hop on your lap.

  279. Sugardoll says:

    sweetie says:
    March 9, 2014 at 9:24 pm
    Josh, Sugary had real arrangement advice, you just didn’t like it. So did Kms and many other bloggers. I’ve had meetings, but decided to keep looking since they weren’t what I wanted.

    I know some SD can be picky,, im very selective myself too, but what u mean, that any of the SB’s on the blog arent what u want?

  280. Josh says:

    @sweetie, with the mega bad adviser on self-imposed leave, maybe Sugardoll can help you get an arrangement of your liking going. She is pretty smart and sassy. 😉

  281. Sugardoll says:

    Josh says:
    Bingo, I’ll take that as “spoiling”, mi amor! 😉

    I know how to treat my SD, mi amor 😉 btw i dont know where u are, cuz u say we far but i dont even know where u at, or seen you, thats not fair.. lol

  282. sweetie says:

    Josh, Sugary had real arrangement advice, you just didn’t like it. So did Kms and many other bloggers. I’ve had meetings, but decided to keep looking since they weren’t what I wanted.

  283. Josh says:

    Great sweetie, opine away.

    I am sure that some people find your opinions valuable. 😉

  284. sweetie says:

    None, I’m too picky. That does not mean I don’t do my research. You’re looking for a quick bang, I’m looking for something else. And I’ve been on SA for a year and on a different one for 2 months prior.

  285. Josh says:

    Really people, we should be confident enough to say, I have NOT done any real sugar arrangements but gosh darn it, this is what I think, regardless.

    That way the readers would know what is coming from real life in-the-trenches advice and what is just someone’s opinion,

    Not that there is anything wrong with opinions…newspapers have them so can we, yes? 😉

  286. Josh says:

    Bingo, I’ll take that as “spoiling”, mi amor! 😉

  287. Sugardoll says:

    @Josh
    Easy question.
    How many SB rub your hair while driving? or ur back after sex? or give you a nice massage? or kiss your body while laying down? or rub your hands when its cold?

  288. Josh says:

    @sweetie

    Again, how many REAL sugar arrangements you have done through SA or other sources to give an advice?

    I am just curious. That’s all…;)

  289. sweetie says:

    Josh, you know the answer to that rhetorical question. She’s spoiling him with affection, or whatever you’d like to call it.

  290. sweetie says:

    Sugardoll, you’re already having second thoughts about him and the potential arrangement. Think it over well. If you’re willing to overlook what bugs you, then ok, if not, then time to look else where. But, make sure you bring it up to him. Who knows, maybe that’s how he is, not much into communicating in between. Perhaps you could reach middle ground once you talk about it.

  291. Josh says:

    After reading a bunch of SB profiles, I have this…

    Rhetorical Question: I understand that a SD can “spoil” an SB. How does an SB “spoil” an SD?

  292. Josh says:

    @sweetie says:

    “And don’t disparage me by calling me dear.”

    But I can call you “sweetie”, yes? 😉

  293. sweetie says:

    Why so curious, Josh? You think you should be the only one allowed to have opinions about SA and sugaring? You’ve been pretty much dismissing everything else that’s been said by other bloggers, especially from the ladies… I guess you’re a self-declared authority and nobody else can pitch in.

    And don’t disparage me by calling me dear.

  294. Josh says:

    @Exotic_SB says:

    “True. But some SD’s are wealthy enough to be able to just drop 10k on a SB if they feel generous that month or if business was good.”

    My dear, ANYTHING is possible as a one-off occurrence. Ever heard of Pet Rock?

    The real question is what is repeatable from one SB to the other, and from one geographical region to the other.

    That’s what we should be talking about. Everything else is wishful thinking and does not help new SBs who are trying to make a go of it, and should be identified as such.

  295. Sugardoll says:

    sweetie says:
    Sugardoll, does it bother you that he is dating somebody else? Would you want exclusivity, ideally?

    it bothers me little bit, but he does not want exclusivity, even if i dont have any problem being exclusive with any SD as long as he is giving me a consider allowance.But this one, bothers me cuz he confuses me a lot, and i never know when im going to see him again, and it bothers me to think that he is doing better with other SB’s (I know its crazy but well )

  296. Exotic_SB says:

    @Sugardoll
    “i havent even find a SD who gives me 3k … so where are those SD’s they talk about lol” “her SD wanted to buy her a Lexus”
    I know right… Honestly I think it’s just pure luck. I do believe that some SB’s get over 3k from one SD but I cannot imagine what they have to do for that amount of money. Maybe their SD’s have weird bdsm fantasies, you never know LOL. Sidenote, I’ll take a free Lexus any day! Millionaire SD where are you?!?!?!?!

    @onyx “Remember most SDs are smart or at least smart enough to not over spend if they don’t have to”

    True. But some SD’s are wealthy enough to be able to just drop 10k on a SB if they feel generous that month or if business was good.

  297. Josh says:

    @sweetie:

    How long have you been on SA, and how many sugar arrangements have you done through SA or other sources so far dear?

  298. sweetie says:

    Sugardoll, does it bother you that he is dating somebody else? Would you want exclusivity, ideally?

  299. Sugardoll says:

    onyx_percula says:
    she moves in at the end of the month. She will stay till my SB in FL moves in the fall

    Didnt get this, she moved to where until your other SB in FL moves to where?

    1-So that SB is aware of your SB in FL?
    2-Have any of them feel jealous of the other?

    I have my first SD, which i dont see since our 3rd date, where we intimate, after that we still text but no plans, he always tell me i miss you, i want you, i like being with you. But he barely text me if i dont text him, so i told him, i just wanted to be friends,(i wont do an arrangement with someone i barely speak or see) we supposed to get together this weekend, im thinking to set things clear if he really wants to keep seeing me, but it bothers me that i dont know if he is being honest about what he wants with me, i asked him if he is actually dating someone, and he said yes. or u think its better for me just to let him go (even if i like him thoug)

  300. onyx_percula says:

    Ref 5 figure allowances —

    Adapting a saying “With great expenditure comes great expectations!”.

    So for argument sake lets say $2k/month with meeting once a week is a typical arrangement. You go to dinner, events, sometimes go shopping or on a weekend trip. You sleep together every time you meet, sometimes its overnight sometime not.

    So what are you expected to provide for $10k/month or $20k/month?

    Remember most SDs are smart or at least smart enough to not over spend if they don’t have to, #1 rule of wealth, don’t spend it!

    —-

    Ref multiples of SD/SB —

    Personally speaking I have more than one active arrangement now and that has been the norm for me since my first sugar arrangement ended. I just completed an arrangement with someone to be a live-in SB, she moves in at the end of the month. She will stay till my SB in FL moves in the fall. I have 2 1/2 other SBs… the 1/2 you ask… I had an arrangement that ended, and have been dating her again without sugar for several weeks now, and will likely end up flowing a little sugar to her as well.

    I’m fine with any of my ladies having a BF or SD, as long as… I’m not treated as something less than they are. That she is safe with him. And keeps her commitments. I sure as hell can’t expect something of them I can’t provide them 😉

  301. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    “i havent even find a SD who gives me 3k … so where are those SD’s they talk about lol”

    In the fictional world of wishful thinking I guess. 😉

  302. Sugardoll says:

    @gtt_envy
    AliceS when you find a SD willing to give you 10k/mo I’ll quit txting!! Not going to happen umless you are off the charts unbelievable on multiple levels and if you well Kudos!!

    Juggling SDs is feasible, just know that SDs like me will run for the hills if I find that out.

    **She said she read a blog when a SB was claiming she was getting 10k.
    Ive been also looking for info and i wonder where those SD’s are, theres a video on youtube of a girl saying her SD wanted to buy her a Lexus..i havent even find a SD who gives me 3k … so where are those SD’s they talk about lol

  303. gtt_envy says:

    AliceS when you find a SD willing to give you 10k/mo I’ll quit txting!! Not going to happen umless you are off the charts unbelievable on multiple levels and if you well Kudos!!

    Juggling SDs is feasible, just know that SDs like me will run for the hills if I find that out.

  304. Josh says:

    @Exotic_SB

    Somehow I missed this post this morning.

    “@josh YOU JUST GOT BUSTED”

    Where? how? what did I do now? 😉

    “Sounds like Chaturbate where girls webcam with you and give a performance.”

    I did not know about Chaturbate until today. I visited another site before but thanks to this blog, I got introduced to Chaturbate. You do know that the Internet was developed for porn, yes? All the other stuff is just bonus. LOL!

    “You act like you know it all but in the meantime you are not any better.”

    I wonder what that means. Sound like one of those sentences that meet the grammar rules, but don’t mean anything. 😉

    “Please never give anyone advice again”

    I encourage you to skip my “advice”. I prefer to help gorgeous SBs like JolieSugar who are going to make a lot of money in the sugarville.

    “and stop being a mean old bitter man.”

    You know what, when I was 23 I dated a 27 year-old girl. I used to think that I am dating an older woman. So it is all relative. 😉

  305. Josh says:

    Rhetorical Question: Is living with a woman 24/7 healthy for a man? 😉

  306. flyR says:

    RE

    ” Sadly, I still live at home. I am 22 yo and up to my neck in college debts. This makes sugaring extremely difficult for me, not to mention that I have a child and am now a single mother because my asshole fiancee decided to break off the engagement.
    1. SB with a kid
    2. SB that lives at home
    do you see my problem here.””””

    Be upfront in your profile.
    You are probably not going to travel, stay out very late or spend the night
    You are probably not going to want presents which you need to explain

    The good news is that you are probably intelligent , have some interests would appreciate some time away from home .

    I do not know about others but after traveling extensively on business for decades travel just to be moving does not hold much appeal, ditto for going out nightclubbing until 4AM.

    The key is finding an SD where your and his wants and needs match.

  307. Josh says:

    @Exotic_SB

    “I was reading on someones blog and she claims to be making over 7k a month due to several different SD’s.”

    Did you read it here or some other website?

  308. Sugardoll says:

    Exotic_SB says:
    March 9, 2014 at 4:06 pm
    SB’s and SD’s, what are your thoughts on having multiple SD’s or SB’s?
    I was reading on someones blog and she claims to be making over 7k a month due to several different SD’s.

    That cant be hard if u get 3-4 pot SD’s

  309. aliceS says:

    Sugardoll with your both superpowers, I think you can double your allowance then 😉

  310. aliceS says:

    Exotic I was reading some sd profiles, that claim to be able to pay 10k for one :)

  311. Exotic_SB says:

    SB’s and SD’s, what are your thoughts on having multiple SD’s or SB’s?
    I was reading on someones blog and she claims to be making over 7k a month due to several different SD’s.

  312. Sugardoll says:

    @alice
    So instead of pussy power this will be titties power….

  313. aliceS says:

    Awesome Sugardoll! !!! You go girl. Send me a post card with kangaroo 😉

  314. Sugardoll says:

    @josh
    ***Awesome ** so i hope he text me back, so i can start packing to go to Australia. lol

    SD’
    Ultimatley, i would seek a local woman, but it appears women close to me are all prostitutes.
    Open to travel and accomidation…very Partial to big busted women.

  315. Josh says:

    Talking about titties, who does not like Robin Thicke’s song Blurred Lines (Unrated Version)?

  316. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    That means: “Prefers big titties.” 😉

  317. Sugardoll says:

    Can someone tell me what this means

    “very Partial to big busted women.”

  318. Sugardoll says:

    @alice, i used to have girl friends, before and they were very close, but i learned not to trust girls, ive always dated attractive and financial stable guys till i move here where i seem to be surrounded by losers, and girl when i find out, my friends, best friends, also a cousin they all end up hooking up with some of my bf’s, so i dont trust my man with any of my friends, or any girl around me. hell no!

  319. aliceS says:

    Sugardoll that’s why I have just two real female friends. One in my country, one in france. And guess what? When my friend came here to visit me, I wanted them to get to know each other and hopefully like. After an hour they almost did a fistfight. I was scared to say any, cause in both case I will end up as enemy

  320. sweetie says:

    Hello, Beach_Girl! Doing well, how about you? Warming up out there?

  321. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    Muah for that profound statement, mi amor. :)

  322. Sugardoll says:

    sweetie says:

    Josh@Sugardoll – ““everytime you get a group of girls together, its not good..”

    Damn right. And I will leave at that.”

    I wouldn’t say so. Depends on the ladies. And Josh, you can’t opine on that since you are not a lady.

    **Believe me i know what im saying, im a woman, in a group of girls there will always be one, selfish or jealous or it will try to bitch the rest, or will never be agree with the group… which is the reason why i dont like hanging out with girls IRL, Men can be assholes, but i prefer an asshole male friend, than a selfish bitch pretending to be my friend.

  323. Josh says:

    @JolieSugar

    “@Josh
    Received 15 emails in less than 24 hours. All thanks to your advice x”

    Great start gorgeous with brains! 😉

    I say “brains” because you are smart enough to cut through all of the idiotic advice dished out here by wishful thinking SBs and surgically improved your profile.

    NOW…if you have any questions while negotiating with the potential (POT) SDs, then you may come back and ask for specific advice as well.

    Please appreciate that most SDs here want you to succeed as SB based on our in-the-trenches experience AND we don’t want you to be misled by wishful thinking fiction writers who like to opine nonsense at the expense of YOUR time just because they can.

    Note there are a couple of wacky SDs here as well who will try to mislead you baseless ramblings. I will identify if they try to do so.

    Again, you are a gorgeous and brainy young woman and there NO REASON WHATSOEVER not to succeed in the sugar world.

    Read up on SB safety, be safe and get the sugar you rightfully deserve.

  324. Josh says:

    @Beach_Girl:

    “Josh~ why such a ninny? Dude, you wrote your email, get over it! if you didn’t want it out there, you should of thought about posting it here!!!!”

    Would you like to have you back rubbed sweetheart? 😉

  325. Josh says:

    @sweetie

    “And Josh, you can’t opine on that since you are not a lady.”

    Awww, aren’t you so cute sweetie. Muah! 😉

  326. Beach_Girl says:

    Sweetie~ how are you sweet girl?

  327. Beach_Girl says:

    Hello Sugars 😀

    Josh~ why such a ninny? Dude, you wrote your email, get over it! if you didn’t want it out there, you should of thought about posting it here!!!!

    FBSD~ hey friend 😀

    Onyx~ExoticSB and the exotic here now, are not the same person. I know the old Exotic too 😀

  328. sweetie says:

    Alice – “They shouldn’t be disappointed, I’m not a whore.”

    And if you were, how is that anybody’s business? And who decides that? How much sex you have and with whom only concerns you and the other person involved.

    Josh@Sugardoll – ““everytime you get a group of girls together, its not good..”

    Damn right. And I will leave at that.”

    I wouldn’t say so. Depends on the ladies. And Josh, you can’t opine on that since you are not a lady.

  329. Sugardoll says:

    JolieSugar says:

    Received 15 emails in less than 24 hours. All thanks to your advice x

    well done girl,pass me your number i want to see your prof.

  330. aliceS says:

    Rihanna :) aww, we are happy for you. Hope you will find what you are looking for.

  331. JolieSugar says:

    @Josh

    Received 15 emails in less than 24 hours. All thanks to your advice x

  332. aliceS says:

    Thank you Fatbastard and Josh :) I feel spoiled :) but seriously, why would I wanted to sleep with some regular guy, instead of successful and educated men? That’s why I’m not attracted to guys in my aga range :)

  333. Sugardoll says:

    @Exotic

    Thats what communication is for, talk to him and tell him exactly what you need.

  334. Exotic_SB says:

    Who is the old Exotic SB that you all speak of?

  335. Exotic_SB says:

    @josh :( why so harsh… lol

    My current SD and I have met up 4 times so far. He is great but he is more of a gift SD. Last time we met he bought me a new Gold/White Iphone, Michael Kors watch and took me out to dinner, the bill ended up being $400.
    How do I pitch the idea of a cash allowance? Should I even go there? I could use the cash to save for rent and to pay off my loans but I don’t want to sound too needy.

  336. Sugardoll says:

    BTW it appears the current “Exotic_SB” is not the old “Exotic_SB” from blog topics past as her current details do not line up with the woman I know.

    **Too much of a coincidence?? isnt it

  337. onyx_percula says:

    BTW it appears the current “Exotic_SB” is not the old “Exotic_SB” from blog topics past as her current details do not line up with the woman I know.

  338. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    “Indeed *** i go with that same theory too….thumbs up girl”

    The two of you are beauties with brain indeed. 😉

  339. FatBastardSD says:

    @Sugardoll

    “/***What is this about ” SugarSpicey Syndrom??!!! hhaahah not good, not good”

    Credit where credit is due. That was quite funny.

  340. Josh says:

    @Exotic_SB

    “@josh why would I want to live within the immediate area of my parents?

    Get me a place overlooking the city that I live in and you will make me a very happy woman.

    So, what’s your price limit again? LOL”

    How about a six figure number? 000000. 😉

    Next!!! LOL!

  341. Sugardoll says:

    FatBastardSD says:
    March 9, 2014 at 12:46 pm
    “It’s better, to go out with potential educated man on a date, and even have sex with, then having sex with unknown guy from disco, after getting drunk. But it’s just my opinion.”

    FatBastardSD approves of this message. Bonus points to aliceS.

    Indeed *** i go with that same theory too….thumbs up girl

  342. FatBastardSD says:

    “It’s better, to go out with potential educated man on a date, and even have sex with, then having sex with unknown guy from disco, after getting drunk. But it’s just my opinion.”

    FatBastardSD approves of this message. Bonus points to aliceS.

  343. Exotic_SB says:

    @josh why would I want to live within the immediate area of my parents?

    Get me a place overlooking the city that I live in and you will make me a very happy woman.

    So, what’s your price limit again? LOL

  344. Sugardoll says:

    Exotic_SB says:
    March 9, 2014 at 12:27 pm
    @Josh id rather not. Long story short, it was all just a big mess…
    oh and btw, I’m on gorgeous level 10 😉 hmm.. I’ll give you a location depending on your price limit. I have to be smart about it LOL

    *****HAHAHAHAH GIRL I GIVE YOU A 100!! well done and said. loved it..

  345. Josh says:

    @Exotic_SB

    “I’ll give you a location depending on your price limit. I have to be smart about it LOL”

    Sweetheart, my thought process was:

    1. She wants to move out of her parents home WITHIN her own immediate area.
    2. Figure out how far that is from where I am.
    3. Check the gorgeousness level.
    4. Make a mutually beneficial arrangement limited to the rent.
    5. That’s the end of the arrangement.

    Now if you are willing to tell me the location based on what I am offering, then it is a totally different type of arrangement, which I will skip, for right now at least until you reveal more about you through the course of blog postings. 😉

  346. Zack says:

    Exotic…maybe, but travel would be an issue unless the long distance thing clicked well enough for some sort of relocate. Yeah, it takes a bit more than a first meet arrangement 😛

    SDoll and Alice have my email…I think most others are busy :)

  347. Exotic_SB says:

    @Josh id rather not. Long story short, it was all just a big mess…
    oh and btw, I’m on gorgeous level 10 😉 hmm.. I’ll give you a location depending on your price limit. I have to be smart about it LOL

  348. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    *I love the way he introduces himself LOL….mi amor i need to pay my rent too, are you willing to do something, we can join chaturbate together LOL
    i think alice will be agree too LOL LOL LOL”

    Even though both of you pass the gorgeousness test with flying colors, both of you are too far away to qualify for the SD rent subsidy.

    Exotic SB may also be disqualified depending on where she lives and wants to rent the place at.

    This offer is only available to the SBs who can make rent subsidy as a mutually beneficial arrangement for me in some capacity. 😉

  349. Sugardoll says:

    @Josh says:

    @Exotic_SB:

    “I need to find me a SD that will pay my rent so that I can get my own place. Any takers? LOL”

    It depends on your gorgeousness level and where you want to rent your own place at. 😉

    **I love the way he introduces himself LOL….mi amor i need to pay my rent too, are you willing to do something, we can join chaturbate together LOL
    i think alice will be agree too LOL LOL LOL

  350. Josh says:

    @Exotic_SB says:

    “my asshole fiancee decided to break off the engagement.”

    I am super curious about dynamics of such things. More details please if you want to share? If it is “none of your business” kinda thing, then my apologies, and please skip. 😉

  351. Josh says:

    @Exotic_SB:

    “I need to find me a SD that will pay my rent so that I can get my own place. Any takers? LOL”

    It depends on your gorgeousness level and where you want to rent your own place at. 😉

  352. aliceS says:

    Exclusive*

  353. Sugardoll says:

    Sadly, I still live at home. I am 22 yo and up to my neck in college debts. This makes sugaring extremely difficult for me, not to mention that I have a child and am now a single mother because my asshole fiancee decided to break off the engagement.

    1. SB with a kid
    2. SB that lives at home

    do you see my problem here.

    **Well when i was 22 i was very good at lying to mommy, heres some ideas, you going to have to improve some having dinner with friends, going to the movies, or find a good friend who can watch your baby at least for 2 hrs while you go get him something. cuz to find a good SD will take you some dates and meeting different, so you will have to improvise something.

    By the way, if you have a baby , and a fiancee, did you tell your mom everytime u had sex, i guess not, so you just tell her about the new men you are meeting, and dont sleep over until you dont get the long term arrangment you are looking for , what do you think that you going to get a bf here, but well just make things PINK COLOR for mom…lol

  354. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll says:

    “/***What is this about ” SugarSpicey Syndrom??!!! hhaahah not good, not good”

    Not really. My real concern is that because of that email format with @, I will start getting junk mail on that email address. That’s the extent of my concern even though I believe that gtt_envy intent was malicious to some end, which I don’t currently understand. 😉

  355. aliceS says:

    Exotic maybe we have different characters. I don’t think it’s a bad thing to do. I’m not telling about any sex details. Unless it’s something funny. But I did told them, where I am. Who is here. What pictures I use. When I go out and with whom. For me it’s logic and legit. And I wouldn’t consider myself any whore at lol. Not to offend anyone. But no. That’s miss representing SA. If SA was for whores. Shouldn’t it be named Seeking Executive Escort?? If that’s the case, I am definitely on the wrong site

  356. Exotic_SB says:

    I need to find me a SD that will pay my rent so that I can get my own place. Any takers? LOL

  357. Sugardoll says:

    @Josh
    I believe so. He typed in my email address in that post accusing me that the email address is registered at a porn site, which it isn’t AT ALL. I was not even aware of that porn site before he brought it to my attention. What he has posted is malicious toward only God know what end.

    /***What is this about ” SugarSpicey Syndrom??!!! hhaahah not good, not good

  358. Josh says:

    @Exotic_SB says:

    “They would think that I was some kind of cheap whore…which I am not btw. I am an expensive one LMAO”

    That’s hilarious right there. LOL!

  359. Exotic_SB says:

    Sadly, I still live at home. I am 22 yo and up to my neck in college debts. This makes sugaring extremely difficult for me, not to mention that I have a child and am now a single mother because my asshole fiancee decided to break off the engagement.

    1. SB with a kid
    2. SB that lives at home

    do you see my problem here.

  360. Sugardoll says:

    @exotic
    Well I prefer to keep my sex life private. In my family it is kind of taboo so I wouldn’t even think of telling any family members that I am sleeping with men I met off of the internet. They would think that I was some kind of cheap whore…which I am not btw. I am an expensive one LMAO
    I guess you have an advantage in that department.

    **What i mean is like REALLY i dont need to tell my mom, family or friends, who do i have sex with, i just talk to them normal about the men im dating. thats fair an enough. they dont need to know more than that, do you think my mom keeps a track of how many times i have sex ( thank god she doesnt cuz he will go nuts lol )

  361. Josh says:

    @SD Guru:

    “@Josh
    “can you please moderate gtt_envy’s post at March 9, 2014 at 7:35 am”

    Does it violate the “blog etiquette“?”

    I believe so. He typed in my email address in that post accusing me that the email address is registered at a porn site, which it isn’t AT ALL. I was not even aware of that porn site before he brought it to my attention. What he has posted is malicious toward only God know what end.

  362. Exotic_SB says:

    @alice

    Well I prefer to keep my sex life private. In my family it is kind of taboo so I wouldn’t even think of telling any family members that I am sleeping with men I met off of the internet. They would think that I was some kind of cheap whore…which I am not btw. I am an expensive one LMAO
    I guess you have an advantage in that department.

  363. Sugardoll says:

    Exotic_SB says:
    March 9, 2014 at 11:48 am
    @sugardoll well then what do you do when your SD requires you to stay overnight? do you tell your brother and parents that too? LOL

    **I suppose you are not virgin, have you tell them when do u intimate with your previous partners? lolol silly

    **By the way i live by my own, they know when i go out, i send my brother a picture, name and phone number, he dont need to know if i will sleep over, lol

  364. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    “everytime you get a group of girls together, its not good..”

    Damn right. And I will leave at that. 😉

  365. aliceS says:

    Exotic I am an adult, and what I do and when it’s my decision. I will be the one, who will faces the consequences. I’m telling my parents where I go and with whom. And when I’m planning to contact them back. They shouldn’t be disappointed, I’m not a whore. So I don’t see any reason, why it would be shocking thing to announce. It’s better, to go out with potential educated man on a date, and even have sex with, then having sex with unknown guy from disco, after getting drunk. But it’s just my opinion .

  366. Exotic_SB says:

    @sugardoll well then what do you do when your SD requires you to stay overnight? do you tell your brother and parents that too? LOL

  367. Exotic_SB says:

    @sugar yes I suppose. But if we had seperate blogs eg. SD’s advice and experiences and SB’s advice and experiences then it would be easier to find the information that we could be looking for. eg. New SB’s would be more interested in the experiences of other girls before stepping into this world.

    I feel like many subjects aren’t as effectively discussed because of the lack of a forum or threads for different topics.

  368. Sugardoll says:

    Hahaha… well i talk to my brother, and to a male friend from my school, and i kind of told my mom, but half of the story, i mean theres nothing wrong on telling your mom you are into a dating site and you expect to meet someone nice ( thats the true and thats what i told my mom lol ) so in that way you can tell her, theres no need to give her details. works for me 😉

  369. Exotic_SB says:

    Not sure if I am willing to tell my friends about me sugaring. You use your parents? I wish I could use mine but they would be highly disappointed to say the least if they knew I was a SB. I am just looking for ONE SB friend, not several. And preferably a SB in my area I could confide in.

  370. Sugardoll says:

    @exotic
    Does anyone else feel like they need to improve this blog by allowing alterations to comments and by making two separate blogs for SD’s and SB’s

    Why do you need a separate blog, isnt better to have both sides advises than just girls, dont you know SD’s can tell you the better advises than the some SB’s based on their experiences..SD’s will tell you from the men side. Wish i think is much better cuz we deal w men/SD’s

  371. aliceS says:

    Sugardoll you are totally right about that part.

  372. Sugardoll says:

    If you need someone to talk to , some of us do communicate by email.. send me your number and i will send you my mail. But we do not send pics or give info of the SD’s we dating. Unless is someone you need to be aware of.

  373. aliceS says:

    Exotic that’s not bad idea. I’m using my parents for that. Not for stories, but all details about sd that I can possibly have. And time range, between contacting them back.

  374. Sugardoll says:

    @Exotic
    I better recommend you to find a closest friend to do that, i cant imagine myself getting together with other SB’s or sending pics of POT SD’s we are in a sugar world, and remember there can be some SB’s with the same SD…lol…and those are things better to keep discrete. Idk thats my opinion, everytime you get a group of girls together, its not good..

  375. Exotic_SB says:

    Can anyone pitch this idea to the admin of this blog?

    • SD Guru says:

      Kids, please play nicely with each other before the adults have to step in! :mrgreen:

      @Exotic_SB
      “Can anyone pitch this idea to the admin of this blog?

      Over time numerous ideas to improve the blog have been mentioned, such as a board with subject based format and a chat room (which was implemented at one point). All I can say is it’s up to SA to decide what to do with the blog and we work with what we have right now.

      @gtt_envy
      “Moderators ever check FB and Josh’s IP or block by MAC address? I wonder often if they are the same.”

      Yes it’s been checked. No they’re not the same.

      @Josh
      “can you please moderate gtt_envy’s post at March 9, 2014 at 7:35 am”

      Does it violate the “blog etiquette“?

  376. Exotic_SB says:

    Does anyone else feel like they need to improve this blog by allowing alterations to comments and by making two separate blogs for SD’s and SB’s. I also think that it would be cool if SB’s from certain areas could meet. Every SB needs another SB friend. For safety reasons and for friendship reasons. It would be handy if I could use my SB fried as a safety net, I would tell her who I’m meeting with, send pics of the pot SD etc. to ensure that I don’t get kidnapped or anything. Also I could share some SD stories. None of my friends know what I do and I need to vent sometimes you know…

  377. Josh says:

    @gtt_envy:

    I registered with a different email address and now I can see, as FatBastardSD mentioned earlier, the josh registered there is a 31 year-old living in North Carolina. I am much older than him and I have never lived in or used NC as my state of residence.

    Again, today is the first time I have registered on this website. As I said earlier, thanks for bringing it to my attention. It seems to have a lot more and friendlier performers than the other site.

  378. thatgirlispoisin says:

    Would anyone be interested and doing an a group chat offsite.. somewhere a little more discreet and private. Not in the way your thinking SD’s 😉 Just so we can all talk a little more freely and I have to be airing all of our business. If so any one have any recommended sites we could use?

  379. Sugardoll says:

    @Josh says:
    Well I do like Chaturbate. It is much cheaper than the site I used before. I actually don’t even need to register because the free shows are pretty entertaining already.

    So thanks for bringing it to my attention. 😉

    **I also got curious, i will go see what this chaturbate is about lol..

  380. Josh says:

    Well I do like Chaturbate. It is much cheaper than the site I used before. I actually don’t even need to register because the free shows are pretty entertaining already.

    So thanks for bringing it to my attention. 😉

  381. Sugardoll says:

    Josh says:
    Who else loves Jenna Marbles?never heard of her but shes cute.

    There is one girl that i like and admire her beauty (im attracted to men, but i know when a girl is hot)

    Christy mack <3

  382. Josh says:

    Who else loves Jenna Marbles?

  383. Josh says:

    @gtt_envy:

    “@josh,
    I’m not going to debate with you this is 2014 just be honest “You registered on the site!” How else did your exact email show up as a confirmed registered member? Luck?”

    Again, I am NOT familiar with this website. I did enter my email and requested to reset “my” password. It did not turn up. So my email address is NOT registered with this website. Why are you insisting that I am registered there.

    By the way, how does one check for registered members on this website?

    “Your computer guy to update you antivirus protection? Explain that one too in detail as to what your “computer guy” does.”

    I am not sure why this is so important. I have a computer guy who maintains my computers. However, the way you are asking this question repeatedly, what you are insinuating?

    PS: As long as you maintain respectable tone in your messages, I will reciprocate. 😉

  384. gtt_envy says:

    @Fatty, you get the its 2014 msg too txting is the preferred method of communication for the younger generation. We rarely talk on the phone just txt and mobile skype. Txting 10-30 a day is not excessive in the slightest.

    You could argue sugar relationships are unhealthy especially if you are in a LTR like I am
    …..I’ll agree with that 100%.

  385. gtt_envy says:

    @josh,
    I’m not going to debate with you this is 2014 just be honest “You registered on the site!” How else did your exact email show up as a confirmed registered member? Luck?

    Your computer guy to update you antivirus protection? Explain that one too in detail as to what your “computer guy” does.

  386. Josh says:

    @aliceS says:

    “You got it. As soon as I get my free money from someone, I will share some of it with you, mi amor. ;)”

    Absolutely, of course. We I will pass on some of it with you as well because you such as gorgeous young woman. Muah! :)

  387. Josh says:

    @gtt_envy

    “Classic case of can dish it out, but can’t take it! I get it ;)”

    I think that you are logic-challenged as well, yes?

    Assume that I am a boxer and I am able to punch you silly in the face without taking any of your juvenile attempts to punch me anywhere, why on the bloody hell I will allow you to to punch me? why, why, why?

    Does allowing you to give me a punch or two makes me a better human, o you logically challenged? 😉

    Now. If you want to address me do so with basic human dignity. I will reciprocate. Otherwise, you have been warned. 😉

    “enjoy chaturbate and best of luck in the sugar bowl!”

    I did not even know about chaturbate until you brought it to my attention, and I am having a grand luck in sugar bowl, are you? 😉

  388. aliceS says:

    Josh says:
    March 8, 2014 at 5:46 pm
    You got it. As soon as I get my free money from someone, I will share some of it with you, mi amor. 😉

  389. FatBastardSD says:

    @gtt_envy

    I am sure the moderators appreciate you computer support skills. All part of being a successful SD I guess.

    “simpleton, weak minded, selfish, and cheap name calling and degrading others is probably all you know. Fat kid in school? Not many girlfriends? Feel like life passed you by since you are older now? Hate the thought that others treat their SB’s right?”

    All of the above are true. I have accepted it and it is liberating. Why don’t you accept that you have a problem with seeking intimacy in a non healthy way (by texting constantly with your SB). I am here to help. I am not insulting you, this is an intervention.

    I will be watching for your next post…

    P.S.

    A public service announcement. I too jerk off while watching porn and Skyping with naked women. I guess that makes me a bad SD.

  390. aliceS says:

    @Sugardoll I’m glad I’m not the only one lmao

  391. Josh says:

    @aliceS says:

    “I’d like you to share with me as well, with those incomes without sex, you will collect. I feel rejected, :)”

    Can you please explain what you are asking me do dear? I am kinda confused here.

  392. gtt_envy says:

    @Josh,

    Classic case of can dish it out, but can’t take it! I get it 😉 enjoy chaturbate and best of luck in the sugar bowl!

  393. Sugardoll says:

    aliceS says:
    DarkHorse for me it sounds exactly what it is. Masturbation while chatting 😉

    **Thats exactly how i see it. 😉

  394. Josh says:

    @gtt_envy:

    Again, I don’t give rat’s ass what you want to discuss or not discuss.

    I have asked you to drop condescension from your posts against me, and post like normal people. Otherwise I will turn up the volume on my language capabilities, and you will soon run to the blog daddy crying foul.

    Capisce? 😉

    PS: I wonder why some of these blog idiots don’t get it when someone is asking them nicely to give and receive respect.

  395. aliceS says:

    DarkHorse for me it sounds exactly what it is. Masturbation while chatting 😉

  396. DarkHorseSD says:

    Chaturbate sounds like a French word for men who wear their hats into restaurants in cities.

  397. aliceS says:

    Josh novel or not, it’s still funny. Btw If you don’t mind, I’d like you to share with me as well, with those incomes without sex, you will collect. I feel rejected, :)

  398. gtt_envy says:

    Moderators ever check FB and Josh’s IP or block by MAC address? I wonder often if they are the same.

    Seems the minute I post here is Fatty attempting to be funny…..then Josh 5 minutes later replies, both have that same negative, women hating, treat em like trash attitude!

    Seems odd 😉 Fatty you couldn’t take the high road could you? Figures, simpleton, weak minded, selfish, and cheap name calling and degrading others is probably all you know. Fat kid in school? Not many girlfriends? Feel like life passed you by since you are older now? Hate the thought that others treat their SB’s right? Remember happiness comes from within!!

    Let’s changed topics and why don’t you convince me again why SD’s should only focus on themselves, give a rat’s ass about the SB they are involved with on any level except “busting a nut”, and why $200/meet is a good allowance like you have attempted to do in the past?

  399. Sugardoll says:

    @josh

    “Wow sex camera live, and I’m the last to know lol”

    There you go. Another novel way to get free money off of men’s pockets.

    ***Uhmmm interesting, at least guys wont have the chance to say im a whore like some SD’s treats us here.

  400. Josh says:

    @aliceS

    “Wow sex camera live, and I’m the last to know lol”

    There you go. Another novel way to get free money off of men’s pockets. 😉

  401. Josh says:

    @FatBastardSD

    “What I find funny is a guy who pays an allowance to text “young coeds” making fun of a guy who masterbates chatting with women. At least the second guy is not paying for it.”

    Negative to masturbation though, FatBastardSD. I savor my shots for beautiful women in real life.

    I was banned by Amy Fisher, “the Long Island Lolita”, a few months back because I asked if her viewers really jack off while watching her. Banned for life. 😉

  402. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    “I enjoy the most after chasing and playing with beautiful women is to piss off bitches. 😉

    **This part is definitely true… lol”

    Yep, bring me the bitchy-er women, and I will give you the pissy-er woman in return. ROTFLMAO!!!

  403. flyr says:

    Yummy = yes

  404. aliceS says:

    Wow sex camera live, and I’m the last to know lol

  405. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll:

    You may be right, mi amor. 😉

  406. Sugardoll says:

    I enjoy the most after chasing and playing with beautiful women is to piss off bitches. 😉

    **This part is definitely true… lol

  407. Josh says:

    @gtt_envy

    “I just found it funny”

    Do I give rat’s ass what you find funny. I find my preceding sentence funny though. 😉

    “the person who posts the most on this blog uses “chaturbate”, WYP,”

    Like I said, I don’t know what that site is and how my email made it there. I will check and let you know what’s up.

    “all while going on multiple dates with his funnel of SB’s…”

    That’s true. I went to date Friday night. Spent morning with the FB. Had to cancel Saturday Noon date because of some issues related to making money. Rescheduled to dinner. The POT SB flaked out due to rain. Spend more time with the FB Saturday night and Sunday morning. I am fully drained right now. Any further questions? 😉

    “I’m amazed you have time to do anything else in life!!”

    First, I don’t give a rat’s ass about your amazement. Now that’s funny right there. LOL!

    That said, what’s more important in life than chasing and playing with beautiful women? Don’t you have it in your bucket list to “chase and play with beautiful women”? If you don’t then kick the bucket already, will you? Now I find that sentence funny as hell. ROTFLMAO.

    That’s why I hate it when bitches accuse me of hating women. I hat bitches, that’s for sure. And what I enjoy the most after chasing and playing with beautiful women is to piss off bitches. 😉

  408. FatBastardSD says:

    I should amend my last post. I am not sure gtt_envy is a guy. I have never heard a SD describe a SB as YUMMY.

    Can we get a blog ruling on this one?

  409. Sugardoll says:

    2. SD Guru, cna you please moderate gtt_envy’s post at March 9, 2014 at 7:35 am

    I dont know why u asked SD Guru to moderate,
    @Josh
    Email them to me Josh 12390 at live do com. No space between Josh and 12390
    @Gtt
    josh12390@ live . com

    For someone who knows about emails, its the same thing…. 😀

  410. FatBastardSD says:

    @gtt_envy

    The josh12390 registered on chaterbate is 31 years old which makes him a younger (and by your thinking much HAWTER) than you.

    There is another josh12390 on OkCupid who is even younger and HAWTER.

    What I find funny is a guy who pays an allowance to text “young coeds” making fun of a guy who masterbates chatting with women. At least the second guy is not paying for it.

  411. Josh says:

    @gtt_envy:

    1. Would you mind not typing my email id the way you just did?

    2. SD Guru, cna you please moderate gtt_envy’s post at March 9, 2014 at 7:35 am

    3. gtt_envy: Would you please mind reducing your condescension level a few notches down. 😉

  412. Josh says:

    Interesting. I have never registered on ANY porn website using this email id. I will have to check. I am curious how it mafe to this website I am not even familiar with.

    I am registered on one website and it is thru a TOTALLY different email id. The id I type here is a new id for exclusively SA blog purposes. So it will live and die with my activities here. 😉

  413. gtt_envy says:

    @Josh,

    Your computer guy………lol. I want to hear about this computer guy what does he do for you?

  414. gtt_envy says:

    @Josh,

    Your email josh12390@ live . com, is a registered profile on “chaturbate” that was my point. I just found it funny that the person who posts the most on this blog uses “chaturbate”, WYP, all while going on multiple dates with his funnel of SB’s……I’m amazed you have time to do anything else in life!!

  415. Josh says:

    I am sure they do and I am glad you reminded me of that. I will ask my computer guy to update the virus software.

  416. Sugardoll says:

    @Josh
    You just have to be careful, most of the porn websites have trojans (virus) and can harm your computer … 😉

  417. Josh says:

    By the way, what did you mean by “Throw your email in google”

    Do you mean that if I signed up there then my email would become Google-able?

  418. Exotic_SB says:

    @josh YOU JUST GOT BUSTED

    “3. When I am on computer, I am doing multiple things, blog posting, SA prospecting, WTP prospecting, wasting time on the Web and occasionally porn when my favorite performer(s) are online.”

    Porn when your fav. performers are online? Sounds like Chaturbate where girls webcam with you and give a performance. You act like you know it all but in the meantime you are not any better. Please never give anyone advice again and stop being a mean old bitter man.

  419. gtt_envy says:

    All I can tell you is type in josh12390@live.com in Google and your profile comes up on “Chaturbate” so you must have used it at some time. I just thought it was funny that’s all!!

    The blogs most frequent poster is also a WYP member and Chaturbate user too…….comical to me 😉

    Between the multitude of SB’s, WYP offers, and web browsing I don’t see how you have time to do anything else in your life!

  420. Josh says:

    @gtt_envy

    I don’t recall. I will check later today. I am not a porn connoisseur but I have realized that many of these websites use different domain names to lead to the same site.

  421. DarkHorseSD says:

    SouthernSB asked, “@Darkhorse-What on earth is in the box in your avatar that has that girl so excited?”

    An onion in a box a ring might come in. She is “crying.”

  422. gtt_envy says:

    So, Josh you peruse a website called “Chaturbate” lol. Throw your email in google 😉

  423. Josh says:

    I got your mail. I replied. Check your email and respond.

  424. Kms2014 says:

    Give me a real address….

  425. Kms2014 says:

    I sent to josh12390 at live but I think it cane back…is that not a real address?

  426. Josh says:

    This is what Heatherbby has to say:

    I’m your fucking whore. Please give me more. Until I’m sore 😉

  427. Josh says:

    Operators are standing by watching porn.

  428. Kms2014 says:

    Okay, I will send….look at my numbers from last year :-p

  429. Josh says:

    @Kms2014:

    “@Josh…I laughed all the way to the bank. Actually, I would gladly send you my paypal documents..please, send me an address, hahah”

    Email them to me Josh 12390 at live do com. No space between Josh and 12390

    I am virtually looking forward to your fictional email which is never going to arrive. 😉

  430. Kms2014 says:

    @Josh…I laughed all the way to the bank. Actually, I would gladly send you my paypal documents..please, send me an address, hahah

  431. Kms2014 says:

    Haha…funny

  432. Josh says:

    @Kms2014:

    “I was just being curious, since you asked for my financial records,”

    I never asked for your financial records. Why would I be asking for your fictional financial records? Please identify the post where I did.

  433. Kms2014 says:

    WYP is not strictly a SB/SD site. However, it does offer that option….Also, I do not use that site anymore, as some men were either looking for a real girlfriend(I felt bad as I am not looking for a real relationship, at the moment, but some of the guys were very nice)…and the other men on there…looking for a cheap escort. That site wasn’t for me….it seemed like it was one extreme or the other…

  434. Kms2014 says:

    I dunno, Josh…I’m really not a blog person too much, besides this one and a couple others…don’t have much time. It is your business, of course, I was just being curious, since you asked for my financial records, thought I would ask for your financial offerings 😉 I live in a city ranked with one of the highest SD populations, so perhaps I am lucky.

  435. Josh says:

    @Kms2014:

    “If you feel that way, then why on you on WYP?”

    I have written the reason for me being on WYP above on this blog. And I agree with DarkHorseSD. If I lived in one of the larger cities, I probably would not bother with WYP.

    “How much do you offer for a first date, btw? I’m curious as to what you offer these women…”

    As little as possible. You may read the details of my WYP strategy on its blog and how it is well-received by the male members of that site. Keep in mind that WYP is NOT an SB/SD site. 😉

  436. Kms2014 says:

    Then why are you on WYP***

  437. Kms2014 says:

    If you feel that way, then why on you on WYP? How much do you offer for a first date, btw? I’m curious as to what you offer these women…

  438. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll:

    “I asked cuz im still thinking how some SB’s get it so easily, and its till going around my head lol”

    It is a LOT easier to get money upfront in fiction than in reality, that’s why. :)

  439. Kms2014 says:

    Hey Josh…seriously, I don’t know you and it is your business as to why you are here…see, the thing is, sometimes you do give okay advice, and I do appreciate you helping me with that ‘gift daddy’ situation I have going on to which I posted about here, the other day…you are right, my POT does not like money allowances, which I am not used to…but, I was ready to rethink things with him yesterday, after my long blog post above, and he ended up doing one the the big ‘gifts’ he had promised the other week, that I though he had forgotten about(so, I assumed he didn’t mean it, until yesterday). This gift is quite is pretty good…so, I probably will open my horizons and enter an arrangement with him. And yes, I will be having sex with this one, as he isn’t the platonic arrangement type.

    However, you do give negative advice sometimes and seem like you hate how the SDSB money allowance distribution, can be, at times….or, think an arrangement only can be a certain way…Also, you said I am trying to get something for nothing? Which, is not true… Sugar daddies that I mentioned before, who sent something before meeting, and for feeling bad about not meeting me after all(and helping with loans) well, that surprised me, really, to be honest. I did not go out seeking to ‘scam’ or get something for nothing. I have been doing this awhile, so have seen many things…And sometimes(which is the last two days as that is all the time I have been on here, since Fall), you deliberately repost what I say, to make it look bad, or like I am a scammer, which, isn’t cool.

  440. Josh says:

    @Kms2014:

    “Correction…why are you on all seekingarrangement/ WYP blog posts…I mean, according to you, if you are a successful SB/SD, then you wouldn’t be on here all the time…hmmmmm ;)”

    I am here for various reasons.

    1. It is classified.
    2. I am not as sexually active as I would like to be because of my age so once I am drained good, it takes a little bit to get going again.
    3. When I am on computer, I am doing multiple things, blog posting, SA prospecting, WTP prospecting, wasting time on the Web and occasionally porn when my favorite performer(s) are online.
    4. I don’t have to “work” as much to make good amount of money to thrown on women.
    5. Etc., etc., etc.
    6. There! 😉

  441. SouthernSB says:

    @Darkhorse-What on earth is in the box in your avatar that has that girl so excited? I can’t tell what it is, it just looks like something fluffy and pink to me. I need new contacts, so I can’t see details.

  442. SouthernSB says:

    “Most SDs are here because they want to get into the SBs pants. They are not here to hire those SBs for any kind of “productivity” gain.” I don’t know about that, Monica seemed to do a lot for Bill’s productivity, after all he did balance the budget and managed to get the country into the black.

    On BJ’s am I just the oldest woman on the entire planet or something? I thought everyone learned how to give oral the way I did, at a sleepover from the sluttiest girl in school demonstrating with a banana, at least that’s how we did it back in the late 70’s and early 80’s. No, the movies aren’t just making jokes, that’s really what we did. You ladies have no idea, the SDs can tell you, it’s amazing we lived through the 80’s, those of us who can actually remember them, right daddies?

  443. DarkHorseSD says:

    Ok, I think we have to straighten out the message here…

    Lots and lots of us guys are giving out monies and goodies prior to sex, and sometimes meeting, some of the time, and some of the time after getting sexually involved.

    It’s what the organic nature of developing an arrangement is about.

  444. Kms2014 says:

    I hope Brandon Wade is paying you…..

  445. Kms2014 says:

    Correction…why are you on all seekingarrangement/ WYP blog posts…I mean, according to you, if you are a successful SB/SD, then you wouldn’t be on here all the time…hmmmmm 😉

  446. Kms2014 says:

    Lol, why is my advice fiction? Because you do not like what I have to say? Shall I send you bank records? Hehe… And Josh…if you are such the ‘guru, oh wise one’…why are you here all weekend? I have a son and his friend is over all weekend, so I am stuck at home this weekend. However, what is your excuse…you are constantly on the blog…writing really long posts–constantly– all the time.

  447. Sugardoll says:

    @josh
    Mi amor, i have never been interested in getting money Up front, i admit it wouldnt be a bad idea, but i dont go looking for it, I asked cuz im still thinking how some SB’s get it so easily, and its till going around my head lol

    Besides, i treat my SDs very good, cuz im very affectionate, im not fake, if i like you, i will treat you the same way i treat my man IRL.

  448. Sugardoll says:

    @Darkhorse
    Could we work out a compromise where the sd gets to grab ass right before giving 1/2 month allowance? Haha!

    Let see if my english is correct, Grab my ass like hold my ass with his hands? or grab my ass like take my ass and do things?

    Cuz if is hold my ass with his hands over my clothes, i see no problem with giving him a clue of whats underneath… 😉

  449. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    1-How do I approach my SD to give me an up front ?

    Most SDs will not go for that. You can always try but if it does not work, then don’t sweat it as long as you have a reason to trust the guy.

    2-How does that make you (SD’s) think about the Sb’s when they do that?

    Whether they do it or not is not as important as how they do it. For some SDs, such as Gentle it is a deal-breaker, for me it may not be a deal breaker because I am not looking for intercourse all the time. Sometimes I am into flirting, other time adult fun without intercourse and, of course, sometimes I want intercourse. So I “may” pay if I am enjoying my time with you.

    3-How do i get my SD into getting me everything i want (in case i want to go shopping, traveling etc)

    You assess your SDs total potential and generosity through his profile, the car he drives, his mannerism, his clothes. And especially the way he treats service folks when he is with you, such as, what kind of tip he leaves for the service folks.

    If your assessment leads you to believe that he is going to be generous with you, you agree on an allowance, which consists on either all cash or cash + shopping + gifts.

    If it is all cash, then don’t try to sneak shopping and gifts. He may take you shopping or give you gifts, but don’t sweat it.

    Once the arrangement is in place, then you focus on making him feel like a million bucks when he is with you when he is with you or is away from you. That is, through flirtation, stroking his ego at all times and occasionally through the little head. Try not to blackmail his little head too often. He may “kick you to the curb” as per FatBastardSD.

    SBs focus too much on:

    1) how to get money up front and
    2) how to get things for nothing.

    There is nothing wrong with wishing for it. Just don’t get all disappointed if it does not happen.

    This is MUTUALLY beneficial arrangement. If he thinks he is getting more than what he thinks he is paying for, then he will be more generous with you.

    If he thinks that he is getting less than what he is paying you then he will stick with the formal arrangements, and may stop meeting you altogether.

  450. Sugardoll says:

    Frank says:
    2-How does that make you (SD’s) think about the Sb’s when they do that?

    When they do that? You mean give a kiss, a hug, maybe a warm caress.
    It makes the SD feel more like a man rather than an ATM

    **I never treat my SD’s like ATM’s

    @Frank
    Ha! No, I take that back, I saw her profile on WYP site. I thought it was an appropriate place for her to get more victims, umm I mean mentors.

    **One more reason , still have my doubts bout getting money upfront without expecting for sugar.

    @josh
    You can get ALL the answers from flyR from the fictional world of wishful thinking.
    ***Nahhhh…Im sure @Kms will be pleased to help me and give me a better answer lol.

    @Darkhose
    NYC is a rare place.( huh??!!)

  451. DarkHorseSD says:

    Could we work out a compromise where the sd gets to grab ass right before giving 1/2 month allowance? Haha!

  452. DarkHorseSD says:

    Frank: “Ha! No, I take that back, I saw her profile on WYP site. I thought it was an appropriate place for her to get more victims, umm I mean mentors.”

    Ha! See I was right earlier. Josh, I haven’t thought much about what it is like to deal with your locale. NYC is a rare place.

  453. Josh says:

    “To get the man so worked up that the little head is doing all the thinking.”

    Those who know know how to get the little head doing all the thinking, they neither come here to seek advice nor to dish out advice.

    They make all the money they can through the little head and run private consulting sessions by charging mega bucks. 😉

  454. Josh says:

    “To get the man so worked up that the little head is doing all the thinking.”

    Those who know know how to get the little head doing all the thinking, they neither comes her to seek advice or dish out advice.

    They make all the money they can through the little head and run private consulting sessions by charging mega bucks. 😉

  455. Josh says:

    There you go Sugardoll.

    You can get ALL the answers from flyR from the fictional world of wishful thinking.

    There is no need for a lick of reality, really. Trust him/her and you will be ALL SET, ALWAYS. 😉

  456. Frank says:

    2-How does that make you (SD’s) think about the Sb’s when they do that?

    When they do that? You mean give a kiss, a hug, maybe a warm caress.
    It makes the SD feel more like a man rather than an ATM

    3-How do i get my SD into getting me everything i want (in case i want to go shopping, traveling etc)

    I don’t know the answer to that. I will paraphrase what Spicey said: To get the man so worked up that the little head is doing all the thinking.

  457. flyR says:

    @sugardoll “1-How do I approach my SD to give me an up front ?
    Cuz I have kiss them on the M&G, so that means i could decently get some kind of reward, right.

    2-How does that make you (SD’s) think about the Sb’s when they do that?

    3-How do i get my SD into getting me everything i want (in case i want to go shopping, traveling etc)”

    Breathing deeply due to the heavy atmosphere of entitlement IT’S EASY be worthy of it in whatever value system rocks his wallet.

  458. Frank says:

    Well, that is fine and dandy, Frank. Did you see her again, and if you did, did she live up to her end of the bargain?

    Ha! No, I take that back, I saw her profile on WYP site. I thought it was an appropriate place for her to get more victims, umm I mean mentors.

  459. Sugardoll says:

    Question:

    1-How do I approach my SD to give me an up front ?
    Cuz I have kiss them on the M&G, so that means i could decently get some kind of reward, right.

    2-How does that make you (SD’s) think about the Sb’s when they do that?

    3-How do i get my SD into getting me everything i want (in case i want to go shopping, traveling etc)

  460. Josh says:

    @Frank

    “So I gave her the money. She got into her car and drove off at a high rate of speed.

    So there, you doubters, some SB’s do indeed get money with no sex involved.”

    Well, that is fine and dandy, Frank. Did you see her again, and if you did, did she live up to her end of the bargain?

  461. Frank says:

    There have been reports of SB’s receiving money without providing sex. And some SD’s have doubted that.

    I wish to correct their mistaken SD beliefs. Last year I had a M and G with a young lady, and we had a nice dinner and a long good bye kiss. We came to an agreeable arrangement, she asked for half her allowance upfront. I had been reading this blog, and felt sympathetic to her plight, what comes first the money or the panties off. So I gave her the money. She got into her car and drove off at a high rate of speed.

    So there, you doubters, some SB’s do indeed get money with no sex involved.

  462. Josh says:

    @Kms2014 says:

    “@SB….at the end of the day, you can listen to Josh’s negativity,”

    Or maybe at the end of the day they can listen to Josh and other SDs who DO makes arrangements in real life and ignore the fictional stories you and a few other bloggers post here to God knows which end.

    “and give up on what ‘YOU’ want…”

    No one has to give up what they want. They just need real life examples, and NOT fictional accounts after fictional accounts.

    “or, you can go into this world with a positive outlook(while being cautious and safe, of course) and make your OWN conclusions.”

    I am ALL for going into this world with a positive outlook and making own conclusions based on realities on the ground, NOT based on fiction posted by you and others.

    “He apparently wants to change things on WYP, too”

    Absolutely. More than 90% of the women on WYP were serial first date fraudsters when the uproar happened on that site. I don’t know how many serial first date fraudsters still exist there.

    “and has been bragging that he has gotten men off of there and to lower people’s bidding prices.”

    I have no interest in getting men out of there. I just told men what to do to screen the fraudsters. Is there something wrong with fighting fraud?

    A good number of men would not have any problem paying $200 or even $500 to a genuine lady who is looking for a non-deadbeat man on WYP. That was the original premise of the website.

    So if the man has 50/50 chance of having subsequent dates with the same lady WITHOUT paying additional amounts for the meetings, then $200 or even $500 are worth having a foot in the door inside a genuine lady’s world.

    That said, why would anyone want to pay a big chunck of his hard earned money to serial first date fraudsters?

    “He apparently, hates the thought of men getting screwed, as he is projecting,”

    I have no interest in saving men from getting screwed. I am not a Good Samaritan. I just don’t like to be scammed by fraudsters.

    “since he, himself has been repeatedly taken advantage of by SB. He is bitter.”

    Well, one’s bitter is another’s wiser. 😉

    “Is it our fault that he was not clever in his weeding out process. No.”

    Well, what else have I been doing here or on WYP then? I am discussing weeding out process and getting feedback from other men.

    “People come here for productive advice”

    Totally agreed. And please allow me to add, fiction is NOT productive advice.

    “I notice that many of the regulars have stopped posting here as much lately…hmmm, I wonder why”

    Maybe they don’t like the absence of cum-talk? 😉 ROTFLMAO

  463. Josh says:

    You got it. As soon as I get my free money from someone, I will share some of it with you, mi amor. 😉

  464. Sugardoll says:

    @Josh
    Mi amor, lets try it.. send me something, to see how it works, lmao!!!!

  465. Josh says:

    Jinx again. I too would like to find someone who sends me money without sex 😉

  466. Sugardoll says:

    I just would like to find someone who sends me money without sex :)

  467. flyR says:

    Re Long Distance Sugar

    @Kms2014 …..” then he could not meet as planned, as he met someone closer to him, “…….

    That’s often a problem with long distance relationships. Location is everything unless he has ongoing reasons to visit your city. Alternative is that he is married and does not want to engage in sugar locally.

  468. Sugardoll says:

    @josh
    Same thing happen to me when i reached tskate profile…maybe their updating it

  469. Josh says:

    @DarkHorseSD:

    Where I am from, there are not many women on SA. I am not into long distance arrangements yet.

    WYP has plenty of women who would never be on SA. They are not as pretty as the ones on SA but some of them are really cute at least in pictures.

    So I don’t mind spending $5-$10 worth of credits to unlock communication with any of them since I know that I will screen them good.

    And all you SDs. Listen to DarkHorseSD and don’t go to WYP. 😉

  470. Josh says:

    Hmmm. What happened to LucyLove’s profile? 1982973

  471. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    “@ Josh…Also, it was De Beers that started the advertising campaign, ‘A Diamond is Forever’, in the 1940′s…not Cartier.”

    I stand corrected. I realized too late after hitting the Submit Comment button. :)

  472. Josh says:

    Josh says:
    March 8, 2014 at 3:35 pm
    @FatBastardSD says:

    “@Kms2014

    Your SD’s are younger than you by 8 years and you are in your mid 30′s. You get SD’s who send you money without meeting you. and they don’t even ask anything of you. You seem to get lot of information from other blog SB’s (not on SA). It is quite probable that everything you are writing is fiction.”

    I agree. 😉

  473. LucyLove says:

    Thanks for the advice everyone. I am going to let you all know how this works out for me.

    Bye, for now.

  474. Sugardoll says:

    @lucylove

    I dont go a day without at least 1 msg. 😉

  475. Josh says:

    @LucyLove says:

    “@Josh
    How do you suggest I word this in my profile then since you said that it won’t work…”

    FatBastardSD has already given you second detail piece of advice. I don’t have much to add. You may read what I advised Jolie Sugar earlier.

    What I am trying to understand is WHY you are hell-bent in finding a mentor more than money on SA, when there are more dedicated resources available for such purpose. 😉

  476. FatBastardSD says:

    @LucyLove

    Remember that a lot of SD’s are married so they may not be so keen on introducing you to people they know. Let us know how well it works.

  477. LucyLove says:

    @sugardoll thats perfect! I do believe that we are interested in similar except it’s just worded differently! I am going to use that as an example and tweak it a little if ya don’t mind. How is it working out for you? Do you get many emails?

    @FatBastard that is a very smart approach! It’s not about what you know but WHO you know, great arrangement. This would be ideal for me if I could actually travel, unfortunately I am a student as well so I can only travel during the holidays.

  478. aliceS says:

    Hi Fattbastard, great advice. I think many of us may use it as demo*

  479. Sugardoll says:

    @lucylove
    This is my description of what im looking for, i think it might fit you. ** just fix what is better for your convenience, but i assure some things can help you.

    A relationship that was stress-free, exciting and mutually beneficial. I wanted to find a sincere, mature gentleman that would be a great mentor for my future career endeavors and to be spoiled along the way. And who can be honest about what he is looking for and then about how he feels.

    Im open to any situation, no booty calls…but serious fwb or long term sd/sb with someone whos interested in getting to know each other. Communication is very important to me, and i completely understand we all busy people in here, but be able at least to text and / or call once in a while.

    Looking for someone able to keep an interesting conversation, funny, well educated, respectful..

  480. aliceS says:

    Btw where is ours Rihanna? I’d like to know how she is doing 😉

  481. FatBastardSD says:

    @LucyLove

    I don’t this you will be successful but here is my advise.

    Just state that you are looking for an arrangement with a successful SD who works in X (whatever field you are interested in). Remove any talk of mentoring in your profile. Remove any talk of intimacy in your profile.

    Tell any POT SD’s that contact you that you are interested in escorting them to social/business functions and you only require travel costs. When/if your SD starts taking you to real social/business functions (and not just the hotel room at a conference he is attending) and introduces you to his social circle then you can jump his bones and continue as long as both of you are happy.

  482. aliceS says:

    Sugardoll I’m with you :)

  483. Sugardoll says:

    I want to find a nice SD… :(

  484. aliceS says:

    Just go and find him. Diamond member name Gary. There’s only one Gary. Find him. Read him email him. He will ask you for your whatsup number. Etc

  485. LucyLove says:

    @alice I am aware of that which is why I updated to :

    “I’m looking for something long term, a gentleman who will perhaps enjoy helping a young lady achieve her goals in life. I am primarily looking for a mentor and do not expect any sugar unless an intimate relationship happens. I am open to intimacy as long as there is great chemistry and connection. ”

    I think this paragraph is perfect! Hopefully it will attract the right SD for me. Got a profile # for me? :)

  486. aliceS says:

    Not want*

  487. aliceS says:

    Lucy love. We are both from Europe. We have similar views. But even I am not that naive, to think that SD for long therm would want any sex. Specially with 21 year old girl. Educated and probably beautiful. So. 2+2 is 4. You can find sd that will wait some time, to get to know. Will be very interested in your education, but still sex is a must for him. Read please, long as well. But very realistic profile. Gary. Diamond member. Location Europe. English fluent. Goodluck.

  488. LucyLove says:

    @FatBastard @kms what do you recommend I do then? In exchange for my vagina get some mentoring? -____-

    I am getting mixed answers here. According to @kms @darkhorse it is indeed possible to get some mentoring from SA SD’s while many others suggest that SA isn’t the right place for that… What is a lady to do…

    @flyR
    “SA does not want you to have multiple profiles associated with the same email address. But that does not mean you can not test market a profile looking for a mentor. To avoid those looking for a cheaper SB you might note that you are primarily looking for a mentor and that you have no expectation of any sugar unless an intimate relationship happens. It might be a refreshing marketing concept.”

    Indeed, not the usual arrangement but I believe that it can be done!

  489. Kms2014 says:

    My POT now is 13 years older, so I am no ageist 😉 hehe

  490. Kms2014 says:

    Fatty tat tat..talkin’ back, again 😉

  491. Kms2014 says:

    No, I’ve had quite a few SD…and have had sex with several. Those were other examples. I’ve been doing this for some time…don’t be such a hater, FB 😉 hehe

  492. FatBastardSD says:

    @LucyLove

    The problem is that there are already other avenues for a man to offer mentoring to younger people. I can offer to give free lectures or post internship opportunities at local schools for example. Why would a SD choose SA (which still has a bad connotation with many people) to find someone to mentor?

  493. FatBastardSD says:

    @@Kms2014

    i forgot. Mr. Wade openly states that it is normal for SA relationships between men and women to involve sex so I am not sure where this idea that SA promotes platonic arrangements has come from.

  494. FatBastardSD says:

    @Kms2014

    Your SD’s are younger than you by 8 years and you are in your mid 30’s. You get SD’s who send you money without meeting you. and they don’t even ask anything of you. You seem to get lot of information from other blog SB’s (not on SA). It is quite probable that everything you are writing is fiction.

  495. Kms2014 says:

    Guess he isn’t into exchanging pleasantries or small talk either 😉

  496. Kms2014 says:

    Hmm, he certainly gets to the point, doesn’t he? 😉

  497. aliceS says:

    Kms2014 I received today an email from new SD. Saying this.

    Hi. I’d like to meet you. I will be in Paris 23rd,24th and 25th March. My only and last offer is €1000 per day. The nights you are staying with me, and of course I want to be intimate. You add shopping at first two days. Hope to hear soon from you.

  498. Kms2014 says:

    Yes, out of town SD are great (:

  499. LucyLove says:

    @kms great piece about the out of town SD’s. Just like Alice, I am going to make most of my arrangements with out of town SD’s since I am in Europe.

    @onyx that is great advice. I will change my profile right away.

  500. Kms2014 says:

    Hi Alice…I found a good article for you, regarding out of town SD. I cannot post link but you post it here.

    “The most important thing you need to know about allowance
    The first rule of allowance is that you, my dear, should not be the one to bring it up. You are a lady, and ladies do not need to initiate conversations about money. If he is a gentleman, particularly a gentleman who’s been in the sugar bowl for a while, he will know that it is his responsibility to tell you what he is willing to offer you in exchange for the pleasure of your company. Every good SD I have ever had brought up allowance during our very first conversation. He told me what he wanted to offer me, and what he wanted in exchange. I then responded to his offer. This is how most successful sugar arrangements begin.

    Out-of-town sugar daddies who have any class at all will sort out all arrangement details with you before booking your first flight to see him. Local sugar daddies may wait until after the first date to talk terms, since your first meeting is more casual. If he hasn’t brought up allowance by date #2, he is either a phony who has no intention of giving you an allowance, or a moron who has no idea how sugar works.

    If he asks you to “name your price” instead of beginning the conversation with an offer, coyly deflect the question by changing the subject and grinning mischievously (which will show him he made an error) or respond by stating honestly that it is inappropriate for you to begin that discussion and that he should tell you what he is willing to pay. You will eventually get a number out of him.

    Some sugar daddies claim they prefer not to give a number first for fear of insulting the girl if said number is too low. This is stupid. If he’s afraid his number is too low, that’s because it is, and he needs to up the ante. Allowances do vary, but on the whole, there are certain minimums all solid arrangements meet.

    Knowing your worth
    The amount of allowance you receive typically depends on the type of arrangement you have and the frequency of dates. Out-of-town sugar daddies typically offer more than local ones, and exclusive arrangements yield the highest allowances of all. When you and your POT decide on an allowance, that number will usually be a monthly one. Sometimes, though, out-of-town SDs offer allowances on a per-date basis, since you may see him once this month, three times next month, and not at all the month after. Whatever the agreement, be prepared to receive your allowance a little at a time each date for the first month or two. Once he gets more comfortable with you and the two of you establish a connection, he may start giving you your entire monthly allowance at once.”

  501. Kms2014 says:

    Hi Alice…(:

  502. Kms2014 says:

    @ Josh…Also, it was De Beers that started the advertising campaign, ‘A Diamond is Forever’, in the 1940’s…not Cartier.

  503. aliceS says:

    Today my sarcastic part is on the loose lol, so I need to say this.
    If I want to have an allowance up front, before my panties hit the floor. But my SD pay me for dinner as well, from what I read. Those $ 200 I need to ask before we even eat? Using same system. :)

  504. Kms2014 says:

    @SB….at the end of the day, you can listen to Josh’s negativity, and give up on what ‘YOU’ want…or, you can go into this world with a positive outlook(while being cautious and safe, of course) and make your OWN conclusions. He apparently wants to change things on WYP, too, and has been bragging that he has gotten men off of there and to lower people’s bidding prices. He apparently, hates the thought of men getting screwed, as he is projecting, since he, himself has been repeatedly taken advantage of by SB. He is bitter. Is it our fault that he was not clever in his weeding out process. No. So, make up your own mind as to what you seek, and go for it. If you have to adjust or mend things a little, on the way, then so be it. However, isn’t that how it is in other relationships as well. There are so many different possible scenarios on the SBSD spectrum, that no one ‘arrangement’ is the only way, as according to some on here. People come here for productive advice and not a ‘no way, that can NEVER happen attitude’. I notice that many of the regulars have stopped posting here as much lately…hmmm, I wonder why 😉

  505. Sugardoll says:

    @onyx
    Nice points made @Lucy

  506. onyx_percula says:

    @ LucyLove — ” I initially want to enter the relationship without the sex but if the chemistry is good then I will consider putting out. I just want to make sure that there is a connection first. In real life I wouldn’t put out if I didn’t actually LIKE the man so I’m not going to make an exception for a SD-SB relationship.”

    Welcome to the ranks of SBs!

    While I know there are SBs out there that will fuck damn near anyone with the required allowance… But many have EXACTLY the same ideas you do!

    So instead of saying in your profile that you do not want a sexual arrangement, which is clearly not the case, instead say what you are saying… that you require a connection and some chemistry to make an arrangement, just like so many other SBs. Doing that you will have just jumped back into the end of the pool where you have a decent chance of finding a suitable SD for you.

  507. Kms2014 says:

    I meant the SD ended* up meeting another SB, closer to his city…sorry, autocorrect. I did not proofread…

  508. Kms2014 says:

    @sugardoll…I do not really go out seeking..just have been doing this for a few years, so have had more experiences that some new on here. Josh is a bit negative, as he says he wants to discredit everyone who apparently has had a positive experience? It is his opinion…and in his mind, I guess men. That want to mentor are delusional? Yet, yesterday, he was going on and on about how SB should utilize more than just an allowance, by way of gaining knowledge from their SD? He just likes to contradict too much, for me to give him much credence…Remember that old saying…’the less they want to give, the more they want’.

    Anyway, I had a couple men send me money for clothes and shoes for our first meet. One asked if he could do anything in preparation for our first date..then, asked about what I was going to wear, then he offered. We never ended up meeting. The other SD I asked if he would send something, so that I would be dressed appropriately for the really nice place we were going to.

    The SD who sent me money for my grad degree was someone I had been emailing a talking with for a little while. He needed IP meeting someone closer to his city, so he probably felt a little bad, and sent some help with school loans. And yes, it is possible to have a platonic arrangement. It is harder to find that, yes, and isn’t the norm, but is possible.

  509. LucyLove says:

    @kms
    “I would think most proper sugar daddies would prefer a sugar baby who has business goals and would enjoy mentoring them, or aiding them in setting up a business…I have read that on blog before. Not this one but another awhile back that her sugar daddy was also her mentor and helped her set up an insurance business.”

    Thank you. Just because they are a certain way, does not mean that all SD’s are that way. I am sure that it IS possible to find a SD that is willing to JUST mentor me. That’s all I want, mentoring. Who knows it may take me weeks or months to find that perfect SD who is willing to give advice here and there but I still believe that it is possible.

    @FatBastard
    “If you want to try to use SA then you could make it clear that you are not interested in a sexual relationship and that you consider mentoring as all the compensation you are looking for. I would be curious if this would work.”

    Me too, I am curious as well but I do think that it is possible, just very difficult. There is a lid for every pot. In my profile I stated the no sex part and some of you have said that it won’t work…

    @Josh
    How do you suggest I word this in my profile then since you said that it won’t work…

  510. Sugardoll says:

    @Kms
    Now can you please educate the struggling SBs how to find those people for whom “$1,000 is like a $20 note.”

    **Im not saying this is no true, you right when you say everyone has different experiences, but it would be nice if you say how do you get that, most of the situations you have exposed in here, give you such a help without expecting sex, when normally also IRL men are always looking for sex. what men in the SD/SB world would just give me money cuz im cute…(And im cute, sexy and affectionate, also with good degrees)

  511. Josh says:

    @Kms2014:

    I have to go really… but I will quickly answer this…

    “Josh, if you are on blog, just to disagree with everyone”

    I challenge people to justify what they write. That’s all. Justify what you write and I will move on to someone/something else.

    “Brandon Wade has a delusional marketing scheme”

    Brandon Wade has a brilliant marketing scheme to create delusion among women just like Cartier has a brilliant marketing scheme of “diamonds are forever” to extract billions of dollars out of fools-on-their-knees’ pockets.

    “why do you use this site?”

    Because Brandon Wade brings a lot of delusional women around, which I don’t have access to otherwise.

    “Also, have many sugar babies have you had? You never answered question….;)”

    And I never will. Next question please? 😉

    I will be back later this afternoon if this POT cancels on me, which I am thinking she most likely will. 😉

  512. Sugardoll says:

    Right now we are just mentally connected…a day will come when we will be physically connected, because YOU wanted to, mi amor. 😉

    **so Stop running away from me, huny bunny… xoxo

  513. Kms2014 says:

    I don’t think it is BS radar…I think it is because you are not really a SD….but, in fact, hate the idea of SDSB relationships, and enjoy making disparaging remarks towards anyone who has a good attitude and is successful at it…Just my opinion 😉

  514. Josh says:

    @Kms2014:

    “Why do you disagree so much?”

    I have a bad habit of detecting BS from miles away. I am sorry but I can’t help it. It is a birth defect.

    “How many SB have you had, btw?”

    I am not telling. That will reduce my prospect of sleeping with some of the beauties on this blog. 😉

  515. Kms2014 says:

    How many SB, I meant, obviously…I’m really curious…(;

  516. Kms2014 says:

    Josh, if you are on blog, just to disagree with everyone and say Brandon Wade has a delusional marketing scheme…then, why do you use this site? Also, have many sugar babies have you had? You never answered question….;)

  517. Josh says:

    @Kms2014:

    “I would think most proper sugar daddies would prefer a sugar baby who has business goals and would enjoy mentoring them, or aiding them in setting up a business…I have read that on blog before. Not this one but another awhile back that her sugar daddy was also her mentor and helped her set up an insurance business.”

    Keep dreaming, and don’t feel lonely. In no time, other bad advice givers will ditto this post of yours. 😉

    On that note, I am outta here trying to facilitate some of them $20 notes my way.

  518. Kms2014 says:

    I would love to help anyone I could find a proper SD 😉

    Just keep an open mind…Have you seen the movie, ‘Eyes Wide Shut’?

  519. Kms2014 says:

    Josh, if I have personal experience then why not share? Everyone has a specific case, lives in a different area…but really? Why do you disagree so much? How many SB have you had, btw?

  520. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    “Josh, you have to understand…for some people, $1,000 is like a $20 note….”

    Understood. Loud and clear sweethear! 😉

    Now can you please educate the struggling SBs how to find those people for whom “$1,000 is like a $20 note.”

    If you have cracked the formula to attract those people, why not make a bundle teaching others how to? :)

  521. Kms2014 says:

    I would think most proper sugar daddies would prefer a sugar baby who has business goals and would enjoy mentoring them, or aiding them in setting up a business…I have read that on blog before. Not this one but another awhile back that her sugar daddy was also her mentor and helped her set up an insurance business.

  522. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    “Everyone has a right to their opinion.”

    Absolutely, long live the First Amendment.

    Once the “opinion” has been dished out as serious advice those who are exercising their right to their opinion should substantiate the fiction they write.

    There is a reason why bookstores have separate sections for “fiction” and “how to”. Those who want to read fiction can go to the “fiction” section and those who want “how to” go to that section.

    Many SBs post here to get serious guidance to make a go of their presence in the sugar space. I respect their time. So do the serious SDs who post here.

    Some here actively write fiction in the guise of advice and many of the serious SDs here and I think that it is a dishonest and misleading activity.

    May I suggest that these fiction writers opine all day long if they put “Fiction” at the top of their posts. 😉

  523. Kms2014 says:

    Josh, you have to understand…for some people, $1,000 is like a $20 note….

  524. Kms2014 says:

    I just might do that 😉 Not my intention to scam…He offered…why do you want to know amount? I’ve actually had something like that happen quite a few times…not as much money, though. One SD sent me $1,000 to buy a new dress and shoes for our meeting, then never got back to me…So, I will assume that wasn’t much money for him. Maybe, just a fluke..but, why would I say, no?

  525. Josh says:

    @Kms2014:

    “I had a guy send me quite a sum of money, after we corresponded awhile,”

    Can you please tell us what that sum of money was?

    Also, aren’t you a queen of getting money for nothing from men. 😉 It seems that all these generous SDs somehow have been flocking to you to give money for nothing.

    Would you please write a book for the other SBs to follow? I am sure that you can make a bundle out of that book. :)

  526. Kms2014 says:

    Everyone has a right to their opinion. FlyR is just in another league than some here. It is not delusional to want a mentor, with no sex involved. Quite doable and realistic. Some men occasionally want to help without even meeting someone…I had a guy send me quite a sum of money, after we corresponded awhile, then he could not meet as planned, as he met someone closer to him, but wanted to help me with paying off grad degree, anyways. No expectations, as he knew we probably would never meet.

  527. Josh says:

    @LucyLove

    “I agree with Josh. You could try interning for free and hope to make connections that way. Sleeping with your mentor (allowance free) can be a part of the deal (this should cause some SB’s head to explode), but you may be able to get away with doing every shitty job they ask of you.

    A lot more realistic than expecting a SD to pay you for the privilege of teaching you.”

    Take what FatBastardSD and I wrote above as serious cost-free “mentoring” from two successful SDs who live in the real world, instead of the all the bad advice dished out by those who live in some kind of la la land and trying to mislead you and waste your time.

  528. Josh says:

    Sugardoll says:

    “@Josh
    What is this are we mentally connected somehow, we just post kind of the same thing at the same time lol??”

    Right now we are just mentally connected…a day will come when we will be physically connected, because YOU wanted to, mi amor. 😉

  529. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll:

    “But i will definitely not get into an arrangement where i just take his money just because.

    Because you are an intelligent person NOT living in the la la land, mi amor. 😉

  530. Sugardoll says:

    @Josh
    What is this are we mentally connected somehow, we just post kind of the same thing at the same time lol??

  531. Sugardoll says:

    I wonder how can you find a SD who really wants to cooperate without sex, is that even possible lately on SA. cuz i have a SD who actually told me he wants to help me on everything he can, and sex its up to me, even if he really want.- But i will definitely not get into an arrangement where i just take his money just because.

  532. Josh says:

    Advance payment to SBs

    Based on my personal experience with SBs and the comments from some serious SDs here, I am kicking around this theory that some hormone that gets activated when a woman gets something for nothing from a random man.

    Here is not so scientific analysis of how the hormone affects a woman in the event of getting money for nothing from a random man:

    1. She “knows“ that a man does not give a random woman anything unless he gets access to her vagina.

    2. This man gave her something for nothing.

    3. This means that she has something in her that random men are willing to give her money for nothing.

    4. Now instead of going back to the man in #2, who will “definitely demand” access to her vagina, she will try my “charm” on another random man.

    5. If #4 is successful, then this SB is toast for a while.

    6. Until she is desperate and runs into a man who would not give her anything in advance.

    7. Due to #6 she comes back to reality until #2 happens, and it is deja vu all over again.

    Comments?

  533. FatBastardSD says:

    @LucyLove

    If you want to try to use SA then you could make it clear that you are not interested in a sexual relationship and that you consider mentoring as all the compensation you are looking for.

    I would be curious if this would work.

  534. Josh says:

    @flyR says:

    Do you really believe what you write or just having fun misleading SBs here?

    “SB’s should take lessons from those who market abstract things of value . Visualize yourself sitting on the shelf between bottles of vintage wines. The winemaker talks glowingly about each. The syrah grown on the south side of the mountain, the chardonnay from the fertile valley and the cab struggling on the rocky, chalk hills . He does not talk of the cost per ounce , his cost of oak barrels but rather on the mystique of hint of raspberries and perfume of spring flowers.”

    If an SB can do that then she does not need to be here. Elizabeth Arden, Dior, Chanel, Gucci, Versace, et. al., would be lining up to hire her for God know what kind of salary+bonuses. Most SBs are here because they want to make their ends meet, whatever that dollar amount may be. Some may need only $1,000/more the other may need a lot more. But this kind of la la land advice is not going to give them any step-by-step guidance to go from point A to point B.

    “In addition, at the risk of being redundant the wise SB presents the ultimate value proposition – she’s not an expense but rather a force that will improve the SD’s life to the point where he is better off financially as the direct result of her presence in his life.”

    This is EXACTLY what the SD thought when he purchased the diamond ring worth three times his monthly salary and went down on his knees and proposed to the woman he married. No? 😉

    “He is more productive, happier, and wealthier (in many ways) for having made the investment. It’s a vastly different approach from the $/ fuck proposition offered by too many.”

    For a person so enamored with semantics, don’t you think $/fuck is kinda crude?

    There is a logical reason why the $/meet arrangement exists. I don’t prefer it but the reason some SDs have to go to $/meet is that SBs are NOT reliable enough to make good on the allowance they receive in advance and are not willing to wait until the end of the month because they don’t trust the SDs. So the $/meet makes sure that no one owes anyone anything after every meeting.

  535. FatBastardSD says:

    @LucyLove

    I agree with Josh. You could try interning for free and hope to make connections that way. Sleeping with your mentor (allowance free) can be a part of the deal (this should cause some SB’s head to explode), but you may be able to get away with doing every shitty job they ask of you.

    A lot more realistic than expecting a SD to pay you for the privilege of teaching you.

  536. Josh says:

    @JolieSugar

    “@Josh Thank you, I’ll get it changed now. xx”

    Go get’em girl for your sugar! 😉

  537. Josh says:

    @LucyLove

    Sweetheart, your best bet is to forget SA and visit business meetings, especially look for an organization similar to SCORE in Amsterdam. If you work with SCORE-like organization then you may not have to even think about sleeping with anyone.

    However, if the organization is not set up similar to SCORE then you may hit up men who can help you business-wise and make it enticing for them to take you under their wings.

    Seriously, based on what you have written in your profile and here, you may be wasting your time at SA. 😉 And some people seem to get weird sort of enjoyment out misleading SBs here. :(

  538. Josh says:

    @flyR:

    Aren’t you so cute. gucci gucci. 😉

    “The problematic concept is “provide” vs share.”

    Hmmm, changing hats from dishing out bad advice to SBs to become semantic police? LOL!

  539. Josh says:

    @flyR

    “Mentoring is somewhat like having someone in the right seat who has traveled the road before and who has the vision to see in the dark. More importantly someone who asks questions that help you to direct your thinking.”

    LucyLove’s current profile is highly influenced by Brandon Wade’s slick marketing and wishful-thinking, bad advice dished out by certain bloggers here. It is not going anywhere without serious editing.

    And I doubt that your “advice” is going to help her either. Actually your “advice” is a continuation of the bad advice she has been all too eager to accept.

    Why? Because it serves her own fantasies about the sugar world based on Brandon Wade’s Super Sugar Daddy marketig campaign, and the article above. 😉

    Do you really believe what you write or just trying to mislead SBs because you have something against the sugar world?

  540. flyR says:

    I think FB’s tartness is really his Socratic contribution to those he addresses.

  541. flyR says:

    @Lucy – One of the keys to success in “business” from the sugarbowl to Apple is to differentiate your product. Writing a appeal focused on true mentoring could have unexpectedly good results.

    Mentoring is somewhat like having someone in the right seat who has traveled the road before and who has the vision to see in the dark. More importantly someone who asks questions that help you to direct your thinking.

    Long after the Vitton bags have gone to the thrift shop you will still have the velocity and knowledge gained.

  542. flyR says:

    @guru ” Now you’re saying you have nothing to do with Benghazi. Again, I find speculations and wild conspiracy theories at this stage irresponsible and in poor taste.”

    I’m not sure what’s got Guru so spun up over this, perhaps my implication that some folks went to extraordinary efforts to deliberately lie to the American public and then to cover up the lie with more lies and personal attacks. Poor taste, right here on the blog? I’m saddened by the multiple deliberate attempts to misrepresent what I posted. Perhaps there’s something bigger at work.

  543. JolieSugar says:

    @aliceS Aha! I get told I look like Rihanna all the time, but I’ve never been told I look better than her. Thank you!!

    @Josh Thank you, I’ll get it changed now. xx

  544. DarkHorseSD says:

    ” An eight paragraph response to my 3 line “tirade”. ”
    LOL pretty hard.

    Please have the courtesy to keep responses to one paragraph per tirade line.

  545. DarkHorseSD says:

    ATM: “You have to pay more than $200 per meet if you expect to annoy your SB like gtt_envy does.” LoL

    My only thought was what $ per meet he considers respectful to his daughters, although on deeper reflection, does he have a different re$pectful amount for each of them?

    Upon the eves of their 18th birthdays I shall sit down whatever daughters I may have and let each know what they better get per meet if they expect to continue to live under MY ROOF! Lol – but not punctuated thereby.

  546. gtt_envy says:

    @Darkhorse, while possible that there are perks that reach far beyond the paltry pickings of a $200/meet allowance, it’s doubtful. I could be wrong 😉

  547. gtt_envy says:

    Blog needs to get with the current times and be a forum with the ability to edit, block users, ban, monitor, private message etc

    Nice date planned tonight hope everyone else has the same 😉

  548. Kms2014 says:

    Fatty tat tat, don’t talk back(do you like nickname?)…while insulting others most times…your posts can be entertaining, also, and even funny…hehe.

  549. flyR says:

    @ Lucy – Some random thoughts. The first is that the vision of going from zero to running your own business , relying on a mentor, is usually not the best way to start. Neither is working in some monolithic corporation likely to serve as a short term launch pad. There are of course exceptions as in the case of the young people who just sold their firm to Facebook for $19 bil.

    Think of the mentor as a coach. The first question is are you coachable? Some people have great natural talents and others have great potential and are coachable and finally there are those with great potential who will die having potential unless they learn from experience.

    SA does not want you to have multiple profiles associated with the same email address. But that does not mean you can not test market a profile looking for a mentor. To avoid those looking for a cheaper SB you might note that you are primarily looking for a mentor and that you have no expectation of any sugar unless an intimate relationship happens. It might be a refreshing marketing concept.

  550. FatBastardSD says:

    @Kms2014

    gtt_envy really put me in my place. An eight paragraph response to my 3 line “tirade”. You would think a successful young generous SD would actually know the definition of the words he uses, but he was probably writing his post to me while simultaneously texting with his SB’s and got confused.

  551. FatBastardSD says:

    @DarkHorseSD

    You have to pay more than $200 per meet if you expect to annoy your SB like gtt_envy does.

    gtt_envy is probably trying to troll the SA blog for SB’s by claiming to be a generous SD.

  552. Kms2014 says:

    @SD guru….you do realize that terrorism has been sited in many news outlets as possible cause of crash, since yesterday, right? I do not think flyR was being rude…

  553. FatBastardSD says:

    @Sweetie

    Hello

    @gtt_envy

    Did you get the stalking accusation from the PriceySpicey playbook? I have no life and spend all of my time reading the SA blog which is why I respond to your posts right away. You have the luxury of reading the SA blog as well as the coed forums where you chat with your HAWT coeds.

    I am an out of shape unattractive old SD and I wish that I could text with the YUMMY SB’s (as you would say) as much as a young sexy guy like you does.

    I have no doubt that you text with your ex SB’s since it seems to be a fetish on your part.

    I will look up simpleton to make sure I know what it means. While I am at it I will check out the Urban Dictionary website so I can also text with coeds like the PLAYA that you are.

    Have a nice day!

  554. DarkHorseSD says:

    Gtt, why do you care if a Diamond gives $200? It’s not your arrangement. Have you considered what other value besides cash might be provided as well?

  555. Kms2014 says:

    I meant ‘little’ difference from his profits….Brandon Wade, come look at what Josh and DarkHorse are posting 😉

  556. Kms2014 says:

    @darkhorse and Josh….Brandon Wade will not like that post you just made about WYP, hahaha…I’m sure there has been little reaction from his profits, through any of Josh’s posts, though. Most men who use that site probably do not ‘blog’.

  557. DarkHorseSD says:

    Josh, ATM, etal. The blog has new faces and a new tone. Bring your posts more into fashion so the new season sells well.

  558. Kms2014 says:

    Looks like two people on plane were using stolen passports, flyR…..

  559. DarkHorseSD says:

    Josh: “Has yours truly caused the dynamics of first date bidding to change at WhatYourPrice?”

    I hope so, but…

    To quote myself, “In the end its easier to use SA’s all you can eat system. WYP is the end result of taking everything a man could possibly do wrong using SA and turning it into its own dating site.”

  560. Kms2014 says:

    @flyR don’t mind, Josh, he likes to be contrary sometimes and argumentative 😉 he thinks sugar babies should accept $500 per month allowance, I guess… /-: hehe

  561. DarkHorseSD says:

    Josh, “Mentor that! ”

    I don’t have to. The literary character known as SugarySpicey has gone into private practice via email and is producing such fine results.

  562. Kms2014 says:

    Hello sweetie (:

    Wow…you go, gtt_envy! I like you….hahaha, telling off, fatty tat tat, don’t talk back! He needs to be told off once in awhile 😉

    Hi FlyR, nothing wrong with a theory..at least you use your mind and do not accept everything the media feeds the sheeples(well, the US media is the worst). That’s why I try and watch BBC or France4 more….

  563. flyR says:

    “””Not many women know how to provide decent sex to start off with. And too many women are delusional in this department. “”””

    The problematic concept is “provide” vs share.

  564. LucyLove says:

    @darkhorse My ideas are not all over the place. Maybe I’m not explaining it correctly. I’m just looking for a mentor that will teach me the ropes. I initially want to enter the relationship without the sex but if the chemistry is good then I will consider putting out. I just want to make sure that there is a connection first. In real life I wouldn’t put out if I didn’t actually LIKE the man so I’m not going to make an exception for a SD-SB relationship. With his mentoring I am planning on starting my business this year, I would like him to guide me as well as I’m going on this journey.

    Am I being unrealistic? Are some SD’s willing to JUST mentor? BTW the fantasy thing is obviously just that… a fantasy and some of you are taking it way too seriously. Any advice is welcome though

  565. flyR says:

    @ SD Guru “So you’re saying your superb sleuthing skills solved Benghazi in the first hour, and therefore you’ve also solved the MH370 crash right after it happened? ?

    a) The Benghazi analysis is not mine but rather that which those on the ground conveyed to their counterparts at Dept of State moments after the attack began. There was no demonstration, but rather a sudden, well organized attack.. Those are the facts, inconvenient facts for some. State rewrote the CIA analysis and then went on a campaign to sell the lie.

    b) My comments on the recent loss were proceeded and followed by the words highly speculative.

    Benghazi has a sugar lesson – short term lies (something you think will be forgotten) almost always come back to haunt you if you are pursuing something valuable and long lasting. They are the termites of good relationships. Yes in some industries (entertainment, prostitution and politics) they are accepted in the culture .

    • SD Guru says:

      @FlyR

      When I challenged your speculation about MH370 you responded with Benghazi as if that validates your speculation. Now you’re saying you have nothing to do with Benghazi. Again, I find speculations and wild conspiracy theories at this stage irresponsible and in poor taste.

  566. sweetie says:

    Morning everyone!
    Hello, Fatty!

  567. gtt_envy says:

    @Fatty 😉 I usually never respond to anything you say pot shots are so ehhh :) or as Josh would say “Yawn”, but sometimes I feel the urge to actually feed the argumentative troll. It’s funny that the minute I post here comes “SD Fatty replying within 5 minutes” sort of ironic don’t you think? I must really make you feel insecure?

    I wonder if you exaggerate everything you say? I’m sorry that the thought of much YOUNGER SD’s (like me) who are actually in shape, want to spoil, connect, and spend time with younger women in and OUT of the bedroom threatens you.

    Your only retort is to name call or exaggerate things, but some people in this world have to attempt to drag others down to feel good about themselves. I understand that and will let you have your fun!

    You should go back a few blogs I’m not even close to holding the txting title lol. Was it NC_Gent that said he texted 9500 times in month? Then another SB replied saying her and Richard routinely texted 100x a day just talking. Being insecure Fatty you just have to blow things out of proportion, embellish, and make things up to sound witty. One month a ex sb and I did hit 3000 txt messages. As I said back then typically it’s 10-30/day unless we are having more of a conversation via txt then it can hit 100.

    The good think about the Sugar bowl is we both can find women that want to be with us. I’ll stick with the ones that wouldn’t dare sleep with someone over 50, who is out of shape, someone looking for nothing more than a hookup at a cheaper than escort price no less (like you) and continue to have long lasting, beneficial relationships with coeds with higher standards :) txting and all!!

    I’m sure 5 years from now when the SB’s you have interacted with many will question their actions “Wow, was I desperate back then! What was I thinking?” Since I still talk to 2 of my exes I seriously doubt they feel that way 😉 I’m sure you don’t care because you (like others) have SB’s in the disposable as long as I get what I want category. Expendable, disposable, and meaningless and as long as numero uno get’s off that is all that matters!

    Maybe next month I’ll respond to another one of your name calling Fatty cries wolf tirades until then enjoy being miserable, selfish, and insecure because there is little doubt that you definitely are!!

    Take the high road and don’t reply? Can you? I doubt it because you need this blog to help validate your empty simpleton life!!

  568. Josh says:

    Has yours truly caused the dynamics of first date bidding to change at WhatYourPrice?

    Maybe, maybe not… 😉

  569. Josh says:

    “Totally a fantasy of mine. sigh…”

    Mentor that! 😉

  570. Josh says:

    “I fuck your brains out”

    Not many women know how to provide decent sex to start off with. And too many women are delusional in this department.

    The frame of mind is, since they have vaginas they are automatically able to fuck someone’s “brain out.”

    It is like saying “since I have a vocal cord, I can sing like Adele” 😉

    But wait, if they are not able to fuck someone’s brain out then blame it on the man that either he was impotent or did not “bring the woman out” of them. LOL!

  571. FatBastardSD says:

    Correction “too stupid”.

  572. FatBastardSD says:

    @Josh

    Don’t be so hard on Flyr. He did not eat his bowl of fresh strawberries this morning.
    Did you know that people in Canada who work on farms and do heavy labour only eat fresh strawberries to get their energy? I guess the people who ran the mining camp I was at back in the day were to stupid to know this and wasted money on other food.

  573. Josh says:

    “Why? Because I have daughters”

    Interesting…so you have daughters working as SBs whom you wish get more than $200/meet?

  574. FatBastardSD says:

    @gtt_envy

    You know what irks me? When a SD thinks wasting every singe minute of his SB’s free time by texting is O.K. because he is not like all of the other SD’s.

    I am sure you encourage your daughter to text 500 times per day every day.

  575. Josh says:

    “I fuck your brains out”

    Not many women know how to provide decent sex to start off with. And too many women are delusional in this department. The frame of mind is, since they are automatically able to fuck someone’s brain out.

    It is like saying since “I have a vocal cord, I can sing like Adele” 😉

  576. gtt_envy says:

    @gentle(man)soul, I actually agree with most of what you said, but only if your allowance is good. I find it funny when a blog posters says her “Diamond Status” SD is providing $200/meet!!

    Really? That’s cheaper than a escort and it just irks me when older, wealthier, and more experienced men take advantage of naive, younger, inexeperienced women.

    Why? Because I have daughters 😉

  577. DarkHorseSD says:

    ” The “lets get money together while I fuck your brains out” ”

    I should have read your last two comments before posting. Your ideas are all over the place. I read cognitive dissonance writ large. Your first order of business is a clear headed plan with well considered strategy.

  578. DarkHorseSD says:

    LucyLove, how does it become important to have an American or Brit with good English skills when what you want is a mentor to help you start a business without a romantic relationship?

  579. LucyLove says:

    with the “lets get money together” mentality I mean, he does his own thing with his Business, and I do mine with my own Business. But lets support each other while we both make GOOD money.

    Totally a fantasy of mine. sigh…

  580. LucyLove says:

    @FlyR “I think with a few years more experience you might feel differently. For those whose income is a function of their productivity, a great SB can add a lot.”

    I have to agree here. I am all for making money and doing what I can to support him and his endeavors. A happy SD will naturally be more inclined to do better and bigger things. With the right SB (one like me) he will be able to increase his cash flow. With my support my SD will do better in the long run because I understand what it takes. it takes a lot of support and the right mind set. It takes some pushing/encouraging. I want to have a sort of Business man/woman Bonnie and Clyde relationship. The “lets get money together while I fuck your brains out” type of relationship.

    LOL that is seriously a fantasy of mine. I am not looking to be a Business partner, or secretary. But more of a supporting “gf” without the strings attached. Lets keep it strictly Business/sexual and in return for my support I want you to teach me the ropes. No drama.

  581. LucyLove says:

    Hi Alice, Good morning dear!

  582. LucyLove says:

    I am aware that it will be difficult and I am patient and determined. Let me explain what my ideal SD SB relationship would be. A man that can teach me about the Business field, teach me about life. I am willing to put out but ONLY if I genuinely like him. I don’t want to sleep with him if there is no chemistry. A man that will treat me with respect is important to me. In return I will support him and his career. I don’t necessarily want money of gifts and I will consider that a generous bonus. I am after information that will help me reach my goals, mentoring. I study International Business and Management and it is my dream to start my own business THIS year.

    Not sure if I am going to find someone that is willing to mentor me for free basically since my initial mentality is NOT to put out, but I hope there are some men out there that are happy to see a young lady succeed and are willing to contribute to her success. But what better way to learn than to ask the rich men themselves? I am trying to make my own money and not be a SB for the rest of my life. Some men can appreciate an ambitious lady, some don’t. Let me repeat, if there is great chemistry/connection I WILL put out only that’s not my initial thought/goal going into this SB world if you know what I mean.

  583. aliceS says:

    Good morning everyone :)

  584. Josh says:

    @flyR:

    “absolutely correct but the SD whose mind was wandering every 30 seconds into fantasies of carnal pleasures is suddenly focused on business, running a war or leading a nation.”

    I am trying to understand, do you really have any interesting in providing decent advice to the SBs who are genuinely trying to make a go in the sugar world, or just interested in disrespecting their time and attention with your convoluted “reasoning”?

  585. flyR says:

    “Even then such business associate would not be awarded $240,000/year ($400,000/year before tax) allowance for such productivity gain.”

    absolutely correct but the SD whose mind was wandering every 30 seconds into fantasies of carnal pleasures is suddenly focused on business, running a war or leading a nation.

    • SD Guru says:

      @FlyR
      “With enough clarity to have known from hour 1 that Benghazi was… a highly organized operation to kill the President’s personal representative”

      So you’re saying your superb sleuthing skills solved Benghazi in the first hour, and therefore you’ve also solved the MH370 crash right after it happened? I’m not making light of the crash and my condolences go out to the families. I just find it irresponsible and in poor taste that conspiracy theories are already flying rampant when the plane hasn’t even been found yet.

  586. Josh says:

    “For those whose income is a function of their productivity, a great SB can add a lot.”

    There is a difference between an SB and a business associate. If an SB can “add a lot” to “their productivity” then that SB is NOT acting as an SB but a business associate to specific kind of SB whose “productivity” is actually impact-able by the SB.

    Even then such business associate would not be awarded $240,000/year ($400,000/year before tax) allowance for such productivity gain.

    The devil is in the details. It is unfortunate that wild numbers are thrown around and wild advice is dished out here to eager, impressionable SBs without providing the details of what is being advised.

    Most SBs are here to complement their income, have some fun, and get spoiled a little.

    Most SDs are here because they want to get into the SBs pants. They are not here to hire those SBs for any kind of “productivity” gain.

  587. flyR says:

    @Josh ““I also want someone who sees the allowance as an investment rather than an expense.”

    Wishful thinking has many stages. This is one of them.”

    I think with a few years more experience you might feel differently. For those whose income is a function of their productivity, a great SB can add a lot.

  588. flyR says:

    @guru “Wow, I can’t wait to hear your grassy knoll theory!! What kind of wine are you drinking? I’ll have some as well!”

    With enough clarity to have known from hour 1 that Benghazi was not students demonstrating about some movie that nobody had seen as our leaders sought to mislead the public; but rather a highly organized operation to kill the President’s personal representative ………

  589. Josh says:

    @LucyLove.

    What you are trying to achieve is doable but very difficult.

    onyx_percula’s comments on March 7, 2014 at 6:55 pm are spot on.

  590. Josh says:

    “I also want someone who sees the allowance as an investment rather than an expense.”

    Wishful thinking has many stages. This is one of them.

    “I think an allowance of $20,000 (JK – insert minimum) per month is reasonable.”
    Wishful thinking has many stages. This is certainly one of them. 😉

  591. Josh says:

    “but they are putty in the hands of an accomplished SB.”

    Wishful thinking has many stages. This is one of them.

    “How many empires have been sacrificed for a taste of sweet nectar”

    Not many, compared to those where women were considered “property”. 😉

    • SD Guru says:

      @FlyR
      “Wild speculation but it is an airplane filled with Chinese flying from a country with a dominant Muslim population. The Uighrs are blamed for the recent terrorist attack on a Chinese railroad station.”

      Wow, I can’t wait to hear your grassy knoll theory!! What kind of wine are you drinking? I’ll have some as well!

      @GenuineSD
      “Would many here allow themselves to fall in love?”

      As a married family man in the corporate world, falling in love with a SB is a luxury I don’t have.

      “There’s been mention of arrangements that progressed from Sugar to IRL love and marriage…. Does anybody have actual experience with a successful transition?”

      I personally know of 2 SD’s who married their SB. It does happen, but I’d consider it as exception rather than the norm.

      @Onyx
      “It’s one hell of a commitment, a HUGE change in ones life. It’s just too much to handle for most…”

      Exactly. Despite how generous you think your offer is, the reality is that very few SB’s are able and willing to accept it. Just making sure you’re aware of that.

  592. Kms2014 says:

    Yes, that is what some others in news are suggesting as well…

  593. flyR says:

    No sadly they do not look good. My guess is that the Chinese and Americans know where the airplane is and potentially what happened.

    Wild speculation but it is an airplane filled with Chinese flying from a country with a dominant Muslim population. The Uighrs are blamed for the recent terrorist attack on a Chinese railroad station. Again this is all speculation. .

  594. Josh says:

    Now is the time for ALL SBs to update their profiles to add that their POT SD must be a wine connoisseur. 😉

  595. Kms2014 says:

    True…depends on the man. The type of men I like are like the ones you describe 😉 are you a pilot, by the way? Just reading about that Malaysian plane disappearing and still missing…things do not look good :(

  596. flyR says:

    “””as many sugardaddies are smart businessmen, and negotiate daily in business, and investments.”””

    but they are putty in the hands of an accomplished SB. How many empires have been sacrificed for a taste of sweet nectar

  597. Kms2014 says:

    Hehe, it’s understood, FlyR 😉 I totally agree with your wine analogy…I was just trying to make a simple example of typical negotiations, as many sugardaddies are smart businessmen, and negotiate daily in business, and investments. I am against the, $xxx to f*** me once a week as well.

  598. flyR says:

    @KMS I hope you understood that I was teasing you. …….

  599. flyR says:

    @KMS – It is hard to overstate the importance of good marketing..

    SB’s should take lessons from those who market abstract things of value . Visualize yourself sitting on the shelf between bottles of vintage wines. The winemaker talks glowingly about each. The syrah grown on the south side of the mountain, the chardonnay from the fertile valley and the cab struggling on the rocky, chalk hills . He does not talk of the cost per ounce , his cost of oak barrels but rather on the mystique of hint of raspberries and perfume of spring flowers.

    In addition, at the risk of being redundant the wise SB presents the ultimate value proposition – she’s not an expense but rather a force that will improve the SD’s life to the point where he is better off financially as the direct result of her presence in his life. He is more productive, happier, and wealthier (in many ways) for having made the investment. It’s a vastly different approach from the $/ fuck proposition offered by too many.

  600. Kms2014 says:

    I meant in a situation where they were in that ‘realm’ of being close. Hypothetically, of course, as a basic example to the new girls on negotiating.

  601. flyR says:

    @KMS “Sugardaddy has a maximum he will spend and a sugarbaby has a minimum that she will accept…and somewhere in between is a beak even point. Capisce….basic business 101 ”

    Actually if the SD max is less than the SB min there’s no flow of sugar until one or the other changes their position or they move back into the open market .

  602. Kms2014 says:

    Very true, flyR…this guy could be crazy or just really like her. Better rule is for him to come to your city, first…Then, maybe travel to him later on….

  603. aliceS says:

    Sugardoll haha what did you did to him. 😉

  604. flyR says:

    @Alice ” I feel like I’m using them enough, asking for travel expenses for the first time. Cause, how can I know, if in real I’d like him still. And id like be intimate. At the other side, I do understand. NO ONE will flight 10 thousands miles just to drink a coffee and play board games. Or NO ONE, who is willing to flight me to him, isn’t count on some sexual intercourse. So. Yeah. This is my primary problem”

    You’ll have to make the decision based on the information you have and some questions you ask him. Depending on your attitude you need to have a discussion about expectations – they might be boringly conservative or a walk to the far side of universe. You should set some limits . I trust you are not going to some remote Turkish island on a “first date”.

    I’ll end with suggesting you ask yourself why is he flying you that distance. Is there a special connection? How much do you know about him? Unless it is a city in which you have connections I would recommend against, especially if you do not have some experience here.

  605. Sugardoll says:

    @alice so this is the text msg my 2SD text me while diner with my 3rd SD.

    -Just so you now , i will give you anything its cuz i like to help, you dont need to do anything, so only have sex with me because you like sex,my future is uncertain and i like my freedom too just like you .. your are cute and sweet so whatever you decide we can still hang out, and i still want to help you reach your goals if i can , is that ok with you, pls say something i like you a lot, imhere for when you need anything or just want to talk or have sex.

    Sooo…..Its time for an arrangment!!

  606. Kms2014 says:

    @onyx-per ulna…totally agree with your post. I call those gifting gestures or a little allowance before intimacy, goodwill gestures, to show he is serious (:

  607. Kms2014 says:

    Break even point* autocorrect attack

  608. Kms2014 says:

    Sugardaddy has a maximum he will spend and a sugarbaby has a minimum that she will accept…and somewhere in between is a beak even point. Capisce….basic business 101 😉

  609. Kms2014 says:

    Oh course it isn’t the norm, Frank…was using as an extreme example because the young lady said she felt bad about asking for an allowance, in addition to his travel expenses in bringing her to him.

  610. Kms2014 says:

    Yes, sugardoll…you are reading that wrong…lol

  611. Kms2014 says:

    @lucylove…be sure to put in your profile that you have a special fondness for American and British accents…wink wink. There are quite a few American and British businessmen there. It is possible….Just do not expect it…

  612. Sugardoll says:

    @Kms
    You need to get a general amount in your head…like, the minimum you will accept, but always ask for more than your minimum requirement. Just like a sd has a maximum amount he will spend..

    **And then we make a SB discount??!! hahah omg i think im drunk…i better dnt keep reading.. !

  613. Frank says:

    Do you realize that a courtesan type high class escort might make $30,000 for a trip out of town?

    I wonder how many times a year that happens. Seems somewhat unrealistic to me.

  614. Kms2014 says:

    @aliceS…thank you..I might just do that (: Are you good at nail art, then? I’m such a slacker when it comes to my nails…surprised anyone wants to date me after seeing how little I put into them…hehe

    LucyLove…It might be realistic, if you really peak someone’s interest…it just depends. Some men might see a lot of value in visiting you, or having you come to them. And some, just enjoy doing that because they can (: I think a more realistic scenario is a European businessman, who travels a lot to the Netherlands…but, you like American and Brits…It is funny because I prefer European men and men that generally are not the ‘typical’ American. Just a personality thing, I guess….I tend to relate to men that travel more, in general, and that just happens to not be your typical American guy. Although, there are quite a few that do, just not as much as your average European is all.

  615. Sugardoll says:

    @alice
    Those are the type of email I’m talking about. Hi, blah blah blah. I like you blah blah blah.I reply blah blah blah like you too. Blah blah blah.

    Just came from my friday nite date….cant read the wine is going around my head…but this crack me up.. blah blah blah…and he said blah blah blah.. looks exactly like my date tonite.. hahah

  616. onyx_percula says:

    @ LucyLove — You are going to have a hard time finding a SD. You say you are looking for a nonsexual arrangement… I’m not saying they don’t exist, but I will say they are VERY rare. So you have taken your potential pool of real SDs and reduced it to single digit percentages.

    While I definitely appreciate a well written long profile most don’t and will not read it all. Short profiles work the best, about the size of one of your paragraphs is about right for each section.

    I understand why you have several of the little things in your profile like the subject code, but you are being VERY negative in your impression on a pot SD. SDs sugar because its simple, easy and low/no drama. While I get it, many won’t and will just write you off as difficult/trouble and/or drama. Smile in your pictures, smile in your words. No growling or scowling.

    Yes having something regular and LT with out of your area SDs is difficult. He either has to have another reason to be in your location regularly, like flying in for a monthly meeting or he has to have more than enough money that he doesn’t think twice a dropping $2k-$3 to drop you on his doorstep or him on your’s (shrink that pot SD pool some more).

    I know a girl from Rotterdam and she told me there is a local SD dating site there that she liked, she never told me its name…

  617. LucyLove says:

    I am also a full time student. I am willing to travel to him but it would be a hassle but still achievable. I’d have to travel over the weekends and holidays.

  618. onyx_percula says:

    First allowance and first sex —

    “The sugar flows when the panties hit the floor!”… This protects both the SD from the SB that promises intimacy but never does and protects the SB from giving away her assets for free.

    Don’t get so fucking literal folks! SDs if you can’t trust her enough to give her allowance when you are both on your way to your bedroom, hotel room or her bedroom, or when you get there you have major league trust issues! SB’s you can’t take back sex get the benjamins before the panties hit the floor.

    Here is a classic first allowance… back at the room a white unsealed envelope is sat on a table in the room, or on the bathroom counter with her first name on it. It has the right number of benjamins in it. It’s placed on the table/counter ASAP after getting to the room.

    SDs there is nothing wrong with giving a pot SB a small amount/gift on M&G dates. Maybe she lost wages to meet with you, maybe she needs a sitter, or had to travel by taxi, etc, etc. It’s okay to slip her a $50-$100. SBs say thank you when he gives you a little something thanking you for having a nice date, to cover your expenses/losses or just your efforts. It’s a good sign he might just have lots more of those little thank you notes when you seal the arrangement 😉

    Something I think most SBs either never consider or just plain old forget at one time or another… A real SD doesn’t need to pay a cute girl to get a dinner date, party companion, etc. We don’t need to pay someone an allowance to “be friends”. We have friends and most of us have no problem “dating out of our league” but we choose sugaring because of the clarity and simplicity of it all, not because its the only way we will ever see a pussy that’s 20-30 years younger than we are. 😉

  619. LucyLove says:

    @kms I see. SugarySpicey already warned me. I have emailed her a few times and she’s given me great advice regarding fake profiles. I am unsure of the kind of arrangement I should go for. You mentioned that there are men who come to Amsterdam for Business, which is a good thing, but I don’t think I can expect to see him every month.

    I have to add that I am looking for a long term arrangement so having an overseas SD would be quite difficult wouldn’t it?

  620. aliceS says:

    Kms2014 well now I need to see it :) Btw if you came to France, feel free to visit me. And i will ensure, that you leave with the best set of nails :)

  621. Kms2014 says:

    Oh okay, sorry AliceS…I just was assuming 😉 Still, don’t watch that movie, lol…will scare you…

  622. Kms2014 says:

    LucyLove, when you first join SA you are bombarded by emails(many initial emails are from fakes, who love new profiles as they are trying to figure out if you are new because they love to take advantage of the new ‘naive’ girls, who do not know what they are doing). Just be prepared to do a lot of screening (:

    I know several American men who have gone to Amsterdam for business…and I’m sure many Brits do as well. I think it could work for you….

  623. aliceS says:

    I even know why lmao. But I’m not french. I just moved here :)

  624. Kms2014 says:

    AliceS, do not EVER watch the French film, ‘Student Services’….or, if you do, it is a great tutorial on the worst case scenario, and what NOT to do…lol

  625. LucyLove says:

    SD’s please look at my account. 1982973, I still need to add pictures, for some reason I am stalling. I would like to enter the SB world but I am researching and reading as much as I can before I step into this world. Once I have done so I will complete my profile by adding pictures. I do have 4 messages already that I am unable to look at because I don’t have pictures up lol

    Is my profile too much? I realize that I did write quite a lot but I feel like it is all important in finding the ideal arrangement for me. Will I have success with finding a SD that is willing to come to Europe? I prefer men that know how to speak proper English and most Eu men don’t which is why I prefer British men or American men but I doubt they will fly all the way to Amsterdam to come see me.

    Maybe I’m a bit too demanding… sigh…

  626. Kms2014 says:

    Oh, bonjour! I used to live in London, but never did go to France…wish I had. Might go this summer. American men do love French women 😉

  627. aliceS says:

    France

  628. Kms2014 says:

    AliceS…what country are you in?

  629. aliceS says:

    Well I know what you mean. I think my gag would start even before I touch it, if I’d try to do it with a men, who I’m not attracted to. 😉 and I’m not sure I should say it. But I never ever tried semen in my life. If my sd is used to it, he may feel rejected. Or think that I’m a weirdo. Hmm..

  630. Kms2014 says:

    Yes, AliceS…you are just new to this whole thing and it feels weird putting a price on yourself. I remember feeling the same way, when I first started being a SB. But, at some point you have to know what price you will or will not accept– even, if he does make the first offer (: It gets easier as you gain experience. For experience, you might just start emailing the guys back who ask for a price(the ones you are not interested in) just for experience, so it does not feel as awkward, when it happens for real (:

  631. thatgirlispoisin says:

    @alice lololol gag reflexes are very important!!! I do this to empower myself not to demean myself. I’m just curious, what type of repor do you have with this potential. Is it playful, flirty and fun or is it more serious. Does he seem genuinely interested in you? Maybe think about having a telephone conversation or Skype with him.

  632. aliceS says:

    $30.000 or $20.000 lol as flyr said is great :) though I think my sexual experience, would be as insult for that price :) I need a men to discover more in that area. But,I still can’t came up with some price. I think SD should drop the number first. Like, hi I like you. And I can support you with that or that amount. If that’s OK. It’s ok. If not we’ll, it’s not. If you know, what I’m trying to say

  633. Kms2014 says:

    AliceS….that isn’t necessarily true. That lawyer I spoke about earlier…he flew me to DC for a week, on our second date and he didn’t try and have sex with me. So, maybe he was gay, but I think he was more than likely a little relationship, sexually inept…He was very respectful. He might have wanted me to make the move….all I am saying is that it ‘might’ not mean you have to have sex…However, yes, most sugardaddies would expect it. You shouldn’t feel bad about asking an allowance on top of them paying your travel expenses….if that is what you want, an allowance, right? Depends on what you want…Do you realize that a courtesan type high class escort might make $30,000 for a trip out of town? While a SB is no escort or true courtesan….we are something close to that, in my opinion. Some people may get upset with me for saying that, but just my opinion….

  634. aliceS says:

    Thatgirlispoisin I’d like to find someone, with whom I click as you say. Otherwise we may have gag reflect, while having sex lol

  635. Kms2014 says:

    My typing is horrible tonight. I meant, if he offers you a higher amount than what you were thinking, then is a win win for both.

    @thatgirlispoison…yes, totally agree (:

  636. aliceS says:

    Yes I like flyr respond a lot. Though how I put a price on me. I’m having a trouble with it. I feel like I’m using them enough, asking for travel expenses for the first time. Cause, how can I know, if in real I’d like him still. And id like be intimate. At the other side, I do understand. NO ONE will flight 10 thousands miles just to drink a coffee and play board games. Or NO ONE, who is willing to flight me to him, isn’t count on some sexual intercourse. So. Yeah. This is my primary problem

  637. Kms2014 says:

    You need to get a general amount in your head…like, the minimum you will accept, but always ask for more than your minimum requirement. Just like a sd has a maximum amount he will spend, but doubt he will offer you that amount. He will offer a lower amount, and you say, ‘that is a very generous offer, however, due to my bills/lifestyle/ previous arrangement past, I really could use, $xxx amount more, per month. This would really make my life easier. Of course, if he fees a number higher than what you were thinking, then it is a win win for both parties (:

  638. thatgirlispoisin says:

    @kms2014 I totally believe that. I couldn’t imagine being on this website in an act of desperation. You have to take your time, get to know someone, and not worry about any details until after you meet in person.

  639. Kms2014 says:

    Oh, so you are outside of US….hmm, that makes a difference. FlyR had good advice above. Since you are outside of USA, and they are wanting to fly to you?(I assume?)….Then, you could name an amount…

  640. aliceS says:

    Those are the type of email I’m talking about. Hi, blah blah blah. I like you blah blah blah.
    I reply blah blah blah like you too. Blah blah blah.

    Second email from him
    oh. I want to meet you. But what allowance you want?
    And then. Mine blah blah blah blah is blocked. I’m like. What the hell should I say now. I need to reply though. I’m outside the USA, so they want to probably know flight hotel plus allowance. Uuuuuhhhhgggmmm not really dear.

    When I say. I have no idea. And I prefer to discuss it in person. They never reply after that. So I’m very confused.

  641. thatgirlispoisin says:

    @darkhorse I think SDs have to look at this realistically too. If your semi attractive, have an OK personality, and aren’t particularly interesting….. you may have to lower your standards for a successful connection with someone. And the main thing is you have to get your foot in the door. It amazes me how many Sd’s pages are lousy. If you were okay looking but your profile made me laugh I’d be more likely to message you back. But it seems like so many SDs don’t go into detail about the arrangement they seek.

  642. flyr says:

    @ alice S ” So my question is. I do receive an emails from SD with questions, what are your needs. Or how much you need. What would you reply to that. And how?”

    I think the appropriate answer is something like – I’m here for a number or reasons. I want ONE special relationship with a man who is intelligent, really likes me, whom I am attracted to , wants to treat me well and to help financially and appreciates my gifts. Thus it’s about more than just an allowance, however the allowance is important to me as it lets me reach for my dreams. I also want someone who sees the allowance as an investment rather than an expense. I think an allowance of $20,000 (JK – insert minimum) per month is reasonable .

    One of the reasons for putting it this way is that if the SD does not meet all of the criteria you can expect a little more. The objective is to open the discussion but at a level that you would be willing to live with. Hopefully before you have this discussion you’ll know more about the potential and how much you want to be with him.

    One thing that spicey was right about is that it is to your benefit to negotiate in person, preferably after a leisurely dinner and some wine. Think of it as a very sophisticated marketing program for a perishable product.

    It’s a long answer to your question. If you have indicated a range you can either confirm the range or if you choose you can hint that he’s special and you would consider something a little less.

    I also think it’s important to have an understanding of what’s included in his expectations before any serious financial discussions occur – other than qualifying him as being a potential. This can be initiated by you stating , in a very nice way , conservative limits or that you are more adventuresome.

    You can also ask about his prior financial arrangements – of course he may fudge on the numbers , either up or down. It is a difficult dance.

    You are looking for both capability and motivation.

    Others have mentioned the relationship between allowance and income. The difficulty is in knowing the amount of income spent on debt service and car leases. For many families debt service and taxes on the home , vacation home and cars may be 60% of income while others it may be 10%. That’s a lot of sugar.

  643. Kms2014 says:

    @thatgirlispoison…it was interesting to me…After I had been seeing one of my Sugar daddies for awhile, he randomly mentioned that I was the only girl he spoke with that told him, it depends’, when asked what sort of arrangement and help amount I was seeking. He told me that every other girl he asked that question to, responded, ‘I want $xx amount per week’, before they even told him or asked his name. I guess that was his experience…if he was telling me the truth, which I think he was. He said it made hime feel like I wanted to know him a little first.

  644. Kms2014 says:

    Desperation is never attractive, is it…I would say that might result in a SB being taken advantage of more, if she were really desperate, too. People can smell desperation….

  645. thatgirlispoisin says:

    @kms2014 Spot on advice for Alice

  646. DarkHorseSD says:

    Referring to your post at 5:00pm blog time

  647. DarkHorseSD says:

    Poisin, I think that side of all this has been desperately lacking in the discussion and needs a lot of airing.

  648. thatgirlispoisin says:

    @alice Don’t worries you sound great. My advice would be…. If you feel that you found someone that you’re really clicking with and he’s already asking about your needs set up a first date.asap. See for yourself if he is all that you hoped would be. If you meet and have that chemistry then go from there. I think the main thing is setting up the first date asap so you’re not wasting your time.
    @kms2014 I think so many of the younger girls are doing this because there in a financial bind. Desperation. When people are desperate they do stupid things. When men get involved with desperate women they get taken advantage of.

  649. Kms2014 says:

    I wrote that poorly…I meant, are the emails asking you about your needs and amount of allowance expectation a ‘first time’ email from them, or are they asking after you have emailed each other a little first, and at least exchanged names and pleasantries, first?

    I prefer a man to make the first offer, in person, during a first or second meet, but that is just my style.

  650. Kms2014 says:

    Are you talking about first emails to you? I mean, if men just contact you the first time and ask that, or someone you have been emailing awhile, first, before he asks you to name a price? This is how a I reply to that sort of email, if we have been corresponding a little, first. as they are trying to figure out your ‘price’, which is fine, to each their own. If I am interested in his profile and what I know of him so far…I will most likely respond like this….’hello, xx, I appreciate your interest in wanting to know these details, but it depends. I am open to different arrangements and scenarios, depending on whether or not there is chemistry between us. So, I would have to meet you first, in order to know before I could say for sure.’

    If your profile doesn’t give an allowance range, and says, ‘Negotiable’, then he might just want to have an idea of your expect ion in allowance, so as not to waste each other’s time. In that case, you could give him your desired allowance amount, although, I prefer talking about these things, in-person, as he has already invested in you more, than just a quick email. The men that really want you, and are able to spend more, generally would wait and ask you that, in-person, from my experience. I do not like the men who send out impersonal emails on SA, asking prices, if we have never emailed before.

  651. Kms2014 says:

    @thatgirlispoison….I have read a couple sugardaddy blogs before, where the sugar baby is talking about how she dreads sex with her sugardaddy, and how much she hates it. But, just grins and bears it…I am like you, I have to want to have sex with who I am seeing, or I will not waste their time….

  652. aliceS says:

    Kms2014 of course I do. Though reading those nicely structured comments by DarkHorse and That girl I may sound like cave woman. Sorry for that in advance. So my question is. I do receive an emails from SD with questions, what are your needs. Or how much you need. What would you reply to that. And how?

  653. thatgirlispoisin says:

    @darkhorse I think as SDs you need to ask yourself, would this girl pay any attention to me IRL? If the answer is no, then I would move on. Women need an emotional connection in order to really connect sexually, in my experience. And if you want to get the most bang for your buck that I would be doing it with someone that actually wanted to be there.

  654. Kms2014 says:

    @aliceS…I am back, if you would like to ask that question still…details please (:

  655. DarkHorseSD says:

    I’ve found dating seasoned women is more satisfying. That doesn’t mean the age has increased much over a few years. American women have to be a little older than European. Basically in their 30s to early forties. So close to my age, not really…10-20yrs difference, yes…more gets tougher.

    The social class part would be very hard to equate via SA. IRL I might find introductions if I explored that. But there is a differential in social class beyond which it becomes hard to date, just like too young is hard.

    Interests, well if you don’t have interests in common it’s limited too.

  656. thatgirlispoisin says:

    @darkhorse
    It would be my pleasure to elaborate. I consider myself to be an attractive, articulate, witty,funny, intelligent, sex kitten… I know how to act in social circles, use manners, and speak to anyone from any walk of life. In return, I want my partner to have the same qualities. I am in my mid 30’s but I look like I’m in my mid 20’s. I can be arm candy but still hold an intelligent conversation. Age can be a non issue as long as the man doesn’t necessarily look, feel or act his age. And I’m not saying that all young SBs are a total airheads. Some people are just wiser for their age than others. For me personally, the only way an arrangement is going to work for me is if its with someone that I would date IRL.

  657. aliceS says:

    DarkHorse actually I do. I don’t know too much people in here. I don’t like men in my age or in that range. I prefer 20+ more, than I have. I like my peace at home. I want in and out guy. Who simply don’t have time to be around 24/7. But need as well some rest from job, wife, family who cares. Vacation from his stress. Just two of us. No drama. And if his incomes and knowledge will permit him to help me with some of mine expenses or carrier. Well. Eureka. It’s all about comfort for both. We still have our life’s. And we are kinda ours little dirty secret. What brings more fire in relationships.

  658. DarkHorseSD says:

    Poison writes, “It seems to me, if you want a successful exclusive arrangement I think the main thing is to date someone within your social class, age group, and interests.”

    If you have more to say on that it would be very interesting.

  659. aliceS says:

    DarkHorse shouldn’t it be that way. It would be much easier. For me at least :)

  660. DarkHorseSD says:

    If neither party is getting into the arrangement as a sex for money deal, the whole issue becomes moot. The relationship develops naturally without disappointment.

  661. aliceS says:

    @Sugardoll how’s your sweet SD? Damn, I like that guy 😉

  662. aliceS says:

    Can’t wait to hear from you. Have fun. :) it’s night in here. I’m still doing my nails, so I will be up late. :)

  663. Kms2014 says:

    Sure, about to take my son to tennis….I’ll be home tonight, though because he is having his best friend over that we haven’t seen in forever (: So, ask away and give me details….and I will answer, when I return home later. I remember starting out as SB and not knowing what to do…I had someone take advantage of me(not sexually, but was a fake SD….and he wasted a lot of my time). So, I wished I had known about a blog like this before.

  664. aliceS says:

    Kms2014 we are all here for some reason. But I think even on Internet there’s a time when we can’t go wild like that. I’m not on any side. But I’m on blog, to read other bloggers advice, tips, warnings, concerns etc. I’d like to create my own opinion about sugar and sugaring. We can’t, if all I read is Josh this, Josh that. Sugary this Sugary that. For example we missed new member this morning because of it. Miss Jolie sugar. Yesterday no one was able to help Sugardoll. Etc. And list goes on. Let’s have respect for others if we want to be respected. Everyone has different issues. And everyone can advise differently. Let’s let speak everyone. Peace. Lol

    Btw I just wonder if you can advise something, how to start or reply to that awful allowance thing. Since, you seem to have more experience then some of us. We would love to hear new opinion.

  665. Sugardoll says:

    @Gentleman ** As this is kind of the type of SD i would like to find, i will say what i have to offer.

    The Art of the Deal in sealing an arrangement with a “real” SB

    The devils in the details of course but for me as a bona fide SD ,if we were negotiating these things are what I like to see from you :

    1) Excitement to be my SB
    2) More excitement including flirting and sexual innuendo
    3) Willingness to spend “private time” together
    4)acceptance of the arrangement which will be payment of an agreed on allowance weekly / every 2 weeks (i dont like per visit, cuz he can take long)
    5)flexible schedule to accommodate my not so flexible one ** Im free all day
    6) an income source which covers most if not all of your living expenses
    ***Im open also to learn any type of business learning activity**

    That’s it to get started as Gentle’s Baby . Here’s how I look at it .

    1) When I meet a Pot I have already evaluated her and talked to her extensively over a 1 to 2 week time period by Email ,text ,and a phone call or two . Other pictures have been sent back and forth and I already know that that she is “my kind of girl ”
    ***lovely, if my SD dont text me or call me, its not into me**
    2) There is already some sexual tension building .
    **By both parts***

    3) We have discussed the importance of a sexual relationship if we hit it off and we both are on board with that .

    4)we agreed on a sum that is agreeable to both of us . The weekly payment is based on either weekly / biweekly if we see each other more than once/week .There are two reasons for that . a) cash flow works better for m y business flow . I am not a trust fund baby with an account full of Bonds . And b) I like my Baby to be invested in getting rewarded to see me . There are too many circumstances where things come up and if the money has already been paid it is too easy to flake. Believe me ,it has happened to all of us SDs

    5) My Baby needs to be available when I can see her period for obvious reasons. Menstrual inconveniences do not count as an excusable absence unless we can reschedule conveniently . I know there is a Yuk factor with some of you ,but there is not for me and as Sugary says ,it is all about me LOLOL .
    ****If there is something that i dont have a problem is to be available for my SD anytime, anyday .. he keeps my happy, i keep him happy ***
    ***Menstrual has never been an issue ** as im from the caribbean the blood in my veins is hot, so i always have to refresh the body LOLOL
    6) I am not a white knight and do not want a desperately poor drama filled Baby calling me for a bailout because her rent isn’t paid,her phone minutes are gone ,or (name any disaster ) . And do not bug me for a raise, a shopping trip,Jimmy Choos ,whatever .
    ***Never done that ***

  666. Kms2014 says:

    @thatgirlispoison…I agree. There are two sides, and common sense should be used…Men, don’t just think with the other head, when picking a SB 😉

  667. Kms2014 says:

    Oh okay, no worries, Alice. I really do not know anyone on here(obviously, it IS the internet, hehe). So, I will just stay out of it…I like the site for fun, as no one, except one of my friends, knows that I do this. It is my little secret to be SB…

  668. thatgirlispoisin says:

    @gentlemansoul ” well then, you’re my kind of girl”
    If it doesn’t work out with this POT maybe we can talk hehe 😉
    As far as payment go up front goes…. there are risks for both. SB’s are taking the chance of not getting beat up, raped, or possibly videotaped,fake sd’s,hobbyists, and various other types.. SD’s get to deal with gold diggers, girls that never intend on putting out,junkies, etc … it seems to me, that if you’re going to be good at sugaring both sides have to have common sense. SD’s Also should take into consideration that the girls are incurring costs as well. Babysitting, hair and nails, clothing, travel….Make sure that you have a true connection with that person before you give them money or follow them into a hotel room. Use your best judgement and look out for red flags. It seems to me, if you want a successful exclusive arrangement I think the main thing is to date someone within your social class, age group, and interests. Sd’s That date 30 years their senior can’t be surprised when the girls aren’t really into
    them. And I know a lot of young girls are really into older men. That’s not what I’m saying. It’s all about mutual respect.

  669. Josh says:

    As sage Forest Gump is reported to have said: Paranoid is what paranoid does. 😉

  670. aliceS says:

    Kms2014 not to be rude. I like Sugary as well, but all that bullshit about Josh makes me vomit with rainbow. No, Josh wasn’t stalking her. I thought he was at the beginning. I even told her he is rude motherfucker. Lmao. But that’s what happens, when we know only one side of the story. They just don’t like each other due to different points of view about allowance and how to get it. Though lately I noticed that Josh avoid any conflicts, but Sugary don’t like to be unnoticed. End of the story.

  671. Sugardoll says:

    aliceS says:
    March 7, 2014 at 2:09 pm
    Sugardoll I can describe mine all points in two words. Married men :)

    ** The one i said was yours, i just repost your post.***

    I will say what im looking for

  672. Kms2014 says:

    Thanks, Alice (: Maybe, he really is just new to all this…

  673. aliceS says:

    Kms2014 well we will cross our fingers for you. Hope it will goes the way you like it.

  674. Kms2014 says:

    Where is SugarySpicey today? Josh did you scare her off again or something? I like SS…

  675. Kms2014 says:

    @GenuineSD…so, surprise, his ears must have been burning…he just asked asked if he could wire money for that gift he wanted to get for me. So, maybe, he is serious…

  676. aliceS says:

    You too :)

  677. Kms2014 says:

    You too, gentlemansoul

  678. Kms2014 says:

    I’m old for a SB…hehe, never ask a lady her age, but I look younger, so I guess it works out okay for those who want a woman who reads the paper, doesn’t use fb or twitter…and hates reality TV 😉

  679. gentle(man)soul says:

    @KMS

    ’m sure I’m too old for you, anyways

    How old are you –ballpark ?

    Have a good weekend all !

  680. Kms2014 says:

    I meant that there are quite a few on that site who are single, too, and looking for a SB.

  681. Kms2014 says:

    Sure, sugardaddie.com….met a really great guy there. He was probably the nicest SD I have had so far. Nothing but a gentleman. We still talk but he is one of those international lawyers and is never in US much. Also, I know it sounds weird, but AshleyMadison is really good. Lots are married on there, but some are not. There is an option for SB, on that site. Just filter through and don’t respond to profiles that are clearly just looking for certain things…look for guys who have ‘shopping’, theater, fine dining..listed in their profile. Also, you have to explain more on there as to what you seek, but I met quite a few POT on that site who were single and looking for SD…I was surprised, as a friend told me about it….I didn’t believe her but was a good site for me. Maybe, it is my area but have read on other blogs that is good site as well.

  682. aliceS says:

    Sugardoll I can describe mine all points in two words. Married men :)

  683. Sugardoll says:

    . I’d like to meet a men on SA,
    A) I don’t want to have boyfriend
    B) I’d need someone who would be exited, spending some time with me. What would help me feel special .
    C) I’d like to feel some emotional connection with him, before my panties hit the floor.
    D) and I need some help with my basic expenses, though it’s up to him, with which he would be able to help me.
    E) And I don’t want him to call me each 5 minutes everyday, I don’t want to call him as stalker as well. Hope it helps you to see my points

    ***You are not the only one with the same desires, but its not easy even IRL to find someone who gives you all the things you want.** Just be patient.

  684. Kms2014 says:

    @gentlman soul, it is a matter of what you are used to…I’m used to getting an allowance in the beginning and you are used to sex being given at first. Hey, whatever works for each person. Like I said, is case specific, however, for every sugardady that has gotten screwed because he gave an allowance first, I’m sure there is a SB who was never contacted again, or given her allowance, after sex was had. It is one of those risks that one person must make at first, and I only want a man who is willing to trust me enough to do that. So, no, we would not workout. Plus, I’m sure I’m too old for you, anyways, lol.

  685. PIWolf69 says:

    Testing to see if I can post.
    Apologies to the Admin.

  686. Sugardoll says:

    @alice
    Dont let that take you down, same thing happen to me the first time, just keep reading the blog ( it has helped me a lot) and slowly you will find someone who fits what are u looking for.

    @Kms
    I have joined another site recently, but for some reason i find this one more trusteable. anyways would you share?

  687. aliceS says:

    Kms2014 it depends how you look at it. I’m not seeking for pay per visit. Week or month. Sex up front/money up front. Or other common options, that I’ve had pleasure to read here. I’d like to meet a men on SA, cause A) I don’t want to have boyfriend B) I’d need someone who would be exited, spending some time with me. What would help me feel special . C) I’d like to feel some emotional connection with him, before my panties hit the floor. D) and I need some help with my basic expenses, though it’s up to him, with which he would be able to help me. I am a mother of two. Self employed . My son is in private school. I want it still be that way, but sometimes it’s hard to keep it all the way I’d like. I avoid shopping for me. Cause I can’t do that, with mine actual incomes. I think it’s simple. And I don’t want him to call me each 5 minutes everyday, I don’t want to call him as stalker as well. Hope it helps you to see my points

  688. gentle(man)soul says:

    @KMS

    ” I would think it is tacky to not offer your sugarbaby something ”

    When we meet I am so overwhelmingly sincere and cute that my Pot can’t help herself I guess . In 10 years of Sugaring I have never been asked to pay up front ,and never will . What perhaps you are discounting is what I said about the “courtship” before the M&G . My Pot is already comfortable with me at that point . So ,sadly , you and I will never be an item . My loss .

    ” SA doesn’t recommend getting intimate with SD until some sort of goodwill has been given by him.”

    the last I heard SA hasn’t paid a dime to a SB , The SD himself does those things .

    @Sugardoll

    That’s what I am talking about girl friend ! Where is NJ anyway ?

    @ GURU

    Please exchange emails with Josh . Uh OH girls watch out !

  689. Kms2014 says:

    @alice…that comment that I use other SD sites was directed at you. SA seems to have lots of escorts and fake SB….so, that is what I meant when I said using other sites, too, can be beneficial in your search.

  690. Kms2014 says:

    GEnuineSD…I guess I just see it from my point of view, as I am upfront and know my intentions…I’ve heard from men about the fakes on that site, though…Guess I’ve been lucky before with past sugar daddies that they trusted me….

  691. Kms2014 says:

    I don’t just use the SA site…I have found better and more legit SD on other sites…don’t limit yourself to just one site. But, if it isn’t for you, then DONT get into this world. It isn’t for everyone and isn’t worth you feeling bad or guilty later on….

  692. GenuineSD says:

    I would second the other SDs observations that paying upfront has never worked for me.

    EVERYTIME allowance has been advanced days or weeks ahead of time I’ve gotten screwed.

    I have no problem producing allowance the night of the first intimacy, but the site is rampant with SBs who rip off SD’s with the pre-pay scam…

  693. aliceS says:

    Kms2014. I’m sorry I didn’t replied before. I just noticed your question. Yes. This is the first and the only person I met from SA. But I’m afraid his huge experience, isn’t for me. If you know what I mean.

  694. Kms2014 says:

    I have pretty good intuition, though… Call it woman’s intuition. Do you think, maybe, men see that beautiful face and hot body…and might ignore some red flags or warning signs of fake SB….just wondering. I am used to doing meetings, in business, so I have been coached in reading people and their motives…body language, ect….

  695. Kms2014 says:

    I guess we will agree to disagree…It worked out for mine…SA doesn’t recommend getting intimate with SD until some sort of goodwill has been given by him. Could be gifts or allowance. You just need a good filter in determining fake SB. I’ve never gotten serious with a fake sugar daddy, but sure have met a few…

  696. Josh says:

    @Kms2014

    Paying ahead of time almost NEVER works for SDs.

    So an SB either takes a chance or there is no deal. Nobody is forcing either one of them to get into an arrangement.

    I am “almost” always fine with me walking out or she walking out, but every time I pay upfront I get screwed. :)

  697. Sugardoll says:

    @gentle

    One with exactly all he specifications, I WANT ONE OF THOSE!! (between you and me, menstrual isnt an issue)..But again,thats all just about me!! lol i die..

  698. Kms2014 says:

    With that said, have never had a sugar daddy relationship where the man didn’t make the first step, in our arrangement…that is the ‘gentlemanly’ thing to do. Most just deposited my allowance in account for a few weeks, before sex was had. They never even questioned that..and insisted on getting details on bank right away. If a man is serious and trusts you, then there shouldn’t be a problem with giving some sort of allowance first. But hey, if that works for you, then that is your business…I just wouldn’t agree to those type of terms.

  699. Kms2014 says:

    @gentlman soul…are you aware of the amount of fake SD’s who ‘promise’ to pay ‘after’ a sexual encounter…sorry, that doesn’t fly well in escort world and shouldn’t fly in SB world, either. You sound like a man of your word, but many are not. You could approach as giving half of allowance at first, or in increments to see if she is serious, but sounds Ike you are a ‘pay per date’ person, anyways. I would think it is tacky to not offer your sugarbaby something, at first, to show you are serious. I mean, what if she has been taken advantage before, as you have. She is risking A LOT by sleeping with you before an allowance has been given. There is a happy medium.

  700. gentle(man)soul says:

    RE: Prepayment before the commencement of the deal .

    I personally think it is tacky to put money in an account or in my Pot’s hand before the deed is done . I hear both sides of the equation . Someone will have to take a chance on getting stiffed ,and it will not be me . Been there ,done that . That is a deal breaker for me if all goes well at the M&G and my Pot says “pay up ” We’re done at that point . I ALWAYS honor my agreements . I know you don’t know that though ,but that’s the way I have to do it . I discretely slip cash in her pocketbook when she is not looking . A charade I know but it doesn’t feel so transactional

    So for those of you SBs out there who are listening to advice along those lines , you will lose some good SDs because of it . I’ve never hand any SB require that .

  701. gentle(man)soul says:

    @The Art of the Deal in sealing an arrangement with a “real” SB

    The devils in the details of course but for me as a bona fide SD ,if we were negotiating these things are what I like to see from you :

    1) Excitement to be my SB
    2) More excitement including flirting and sexual innuendo
    3) Willingness to spend “private time” together soon–if not that night
    4)acceptance of the arrangement which will be payment of an agreed on allowance weekly if not per visit-not in advance .
    5)flexible schedule to accommodate my not so flexible one
    6) an income source which covers most if not all of your living expenses

    That’s it to get started as Gentle’s Baby . Here’s how I look at it .

    1) When I meet a Pot I have already evaluated her and talked to her extensively over a 1 to 2 week time period by Email ,text ,and a phone call or two . Other pictures have been sent back and forth and I already know that that she is “my kind of girl ”

    2) There is already some sexual tension building .

    3) We have discussed the importance of a sexual relationship if we hit it off and we both are on board with that .

    4)we agreed on a sum that is agreeable to both of us . The weekly payment is based on either a per visit basis or weekly if we see each other more than once/week .There are two reasons for that . a) cash flow works better for m y business flow . I am not a trust fund baby with an account full of Bonds . And b) I like my Baby to be invested in getting rewarded to see me . There are too many circumstances where things come up and if the money has already been paid it is too easy to flake. Believe me ,it has happened to all of us SDs

    5) My Baby needs to be available when I can see her period for obvious reasons. Menstrual inconveniences do not count as an excusable absence unless we can reschedule conveniently . I know there is a Yuk factor with some of you ,but there is not for me and as Sugary says ,it is all about me LOLOL .

    6) I am not a white knight and do not want a desperately poor drama filled Baby calling me for a bailout because her rent isn’t paid,her phone minutes are gone ,or (name any disaster ) . And do not bug me for a raise, a shopping trip,Jimmy Choos ,whatever . I will keep my end of the bargain and I will treat my baby to lots of things regularly anyway .

    I suspect I am not alone in wanting these things of my Baby .

  702. Kms2014 says:

    Hi Alice, it is your first meeting with a potential sugar daddy…lots of acronyms used here….

  703. aliceS says:

    Uhm. . Still don’t get it. Any examples? Please :)

  704. Sugardoll says:

    @alice
    Meet & Greet

  705. aliceS says:

    What is M&G?

  706. GenuineSD says:

    @gentleman
    Ummmm. Close, maybe for some
    I think everyone comes to sugar with a variation on the theme…
    For some it’s bedding a beautiful girl on the first date, for others there’s a hunger for a connection, for some it’s to be the knight swooping in to rescue…. And a bunch of other variations…
    Hitting the hotel on the first date isn’t a universally sought goal….

  707. Sugardoll says:

    @Kms – Dominican Repubic
    @Gentleman
    I come from a generation where we dated one person and that person either became your SO or you broke up

    **Mine too, *** thats the reason why i had to do a “research when i got here of what ” Dating ” was, way to different for me.

    ***Sex on the M&G or meeting in a hotel room or his house, not even IRL and SA is not going to change that. (Im not a virgin, but well as @Kms says: everybody is different)

  708. Kms2014 says:

    Yes, you make a very sensical and valid point…My blinders are on a little, as I like him. He did keep mentioning a woman from his past, many years ago, and how she was the only one that ever dumped him. So yes,a I agree that there is some of what you mentioned at play here, most likely. Thank you for advice again (:

  709. GenuineSD says:

    @kms…
    I don’t know… There always seems to be some special circumstance to his allowance production…. Some catch…
    In my experience, if I find an Pot-SB that I would like to be with, I try to get to an agreement on what she needs Allowance-wise and then either move forward or move on if we don’t agree…
    This guy sounds like he just enjoys the chase…. IMHO

  710. Kms2014 says:

    Hey, totally agree, as I said every situation is different…nothing wrong with sex on a first meet, as long as both people come to an agreement. However, thatgirlispoison and her POT haven’t even discussed the terms of an arrangement yet. That’s all I meant….

  711. Josh says:

    @Gentle

    “Josh ,you would call me a pussy back then –but I got over it.”

    I think I was in a similar boat you were in. I was vagina virgin until I was in early twenties. I jerked off a lot though. LOL!

    Most of my encouters with women IRL are similar to yours and they are probably the same as yours in the sugar space as well.

    I typically don’t have sex on the first date. I did try your approach on one SB recently and it worked but I pussied out and sent her home that afternoon.

    Then I banged her silly the next evening. She wanted to stay with me that night but I had something else to do later that night.

    Picked her up early in the morning again and made good use of the hotel rent in the morning. The next weekend I did stay with her overnight in the hotel and made great use of the rent again.

    So I do need to learn your 1st date banging routines, if you don’t mind sharing a throw-away eamil address. 😉

  712. gentle(man)soul says:

    @all SBs

    A lot is said about sex on the first date but I don’t get what the problem is ? Men(most) are here to bed gorgeous young women that we wouldn’t have access to IRL . We are not looking for a wife or some princess on a pedestal . We are not interested in courting too hard. Some is fun but I want to know at the end of the day that we will be doing the gator together . So give us what we want and need as long as we hold up our end of the bargain . Tit for Tat –so to speak .

  713. Kms2014 says:

    Thanks, Genuine…I’m still keeping him around to test the waters a little more, as he is my type and I like him…he mentioned doing something for me today, that would cost quite a bit. At first, he said to email him the details of a place near me, so I could start. However, when I did, he asked later, ‘ ‘how I wanted to handle it, and if we should just wait and purchase it with his credit card, when he is in town, on 15th?’ I don’t know…perhaps, he wants to make sure I’m not flakey, but like I said before…never had a SD like this before…he is quite clever in business, so….

  714. Kms2014 says:

    @gentleman soul…hey, I understand where you are coming from (: Everyone is different, I guess. You sound like a nice man. My father’s generation was like that…he couldn’t even fathom the idea of females as friends, while I’ve always had many close male friends, since high school. It is just something that becomes customary to each person’s background.

  715. GenuineSD says:

    @kms: Hi there ! I feel your pain trying to figure out what to do with your potSD.

    @Josh. Re:pictures…
    I prefer to see a clear head shot and a full torso picture too
    The dress isn’t so specific, though it does help judge the sort of person…
    The biggest issues are low res pictures, or poorly lit pictures, IMO

  716. Kms2014 says:

    This is just my opinion…but, you might want to wait on asking about the exclusive thing so soon….It ‘might’ scare him a little, if he isn’t sure. Even in sugar relationships, I try to let the man take the lead–unless, he states otherwise or asks me. Also, just because he invites you to dinner at upscale hotel(hopefully, he is taking you to dinner there, first) does not mean you must have sex with him that night…just wait and see what he says at dinner. Do not go to his hotel room for sex, unless an arrangement and allowance has been finalized, and he has given you allowance…unless, you just want to do that…Good luck (:

  717. gentle(man)soul says:

    thatgirlispoisin says:

    . I guess I would consider sex on the M&G. If we really connected and he was able to immediately back up his offer.

    Well then ,you are my kind of girl P

  718. gentle(man)soul says:

    @KMS

    ” Aren’t there individuals you dated whom you never had sex with, and some that you did?”

    No .

    At least not since I sorta grew up . I was very shy in my teen years and was embarrassed to “make the move ” Josh ,you would call me a pussy back then –but I got over it . I come from a generation where we dated one person and that person either became your SO or you broke up . Now my kids are your age and they have friends of both sexes and hang out as a group often . I always paired up one on one and missed the fun of having girl “friends”. So I always look at women as objects –to be treasured ,adored ,and cared for . None of the few women IRL in my life ever worked . I cared for their every need –and still do .

  719. thatgirlispoisin says:

    @kms2014 hello there! I hope your day is going well. So there’s been a development. He asked if I want to meet at an upscale hotel for our date on Saturday. I replied asking if that meant I should delete my SA account. I made it clear from the beginning that I was looking for an exclusive arrangement. But never talked more about it since our first few emails. Still waiting to hear back from him. Ugh, It’s torture!!

  720. Kms2014 says:

    Hi GEnuineSD and thatgirlispoison (:

  721. Josh says:

    SDs:

    What kind of pictures do you like to see in SBs’ profiles?

    I personally like to see:

    1. Evening gown
    2. Skirt and blouse
    3. Slacks and shirt
    4. Jeans and t-shirt
    5. Some kind of shorts and t-shirt
    6. Bikini. Two piece preferred.

    Most of the pictures should be full. One can be close-up. No bra or panties shots please. You may reduce your arrangement negotiation power with showing yourself in underwear. Maybe not. 😉 Use two piece bikini if you need to show skin.

    All of the above should by in full daylinght. If you must use night time pictures make sure that there is ample light.

    If most of your pictures are according to above, you may sneak some funky shots if you must.

  722. thatgirlispoisin says:

    @gentlemansoul I did mean ” Mr Right Now”lol. Capitalization means everything. I’m really excited to be entering the Sugar Bowl. I guess I would consider sex on the M&G. If we really connected and he was able to immediately back up his offer. At least half the allowance of front.

  723. GenuineSD says:

    @Beach
    How have you been? Was the winter weather as bad for you as many other places ?
    Did you ever renew that passport ? :)

  724. Josh says:

    @Jolie Sugar

    Yes really nice pix.

    Your descriptions is good Please remove the sentence related to “about me”. Confidence is sexy. You don’t want to show lack of confidence.

    Cut down your requirements from SDs. You want to focus on main things like their succuess, their generosity, respect for you at all times, ability and their willingness to support you, etc.

    Don’t go too deep. You repeat honesty many times. No one is going to pay you anything for your honesty. They will, and have to, pay you for companionship for sure.

    If you are not going to date married people then say so. But, if you dont care if they are married then the repetition of “honesty” in the requirements may scare them away.

    That’s all for now. I am sure that others will give you their feedback as well. 😉

  725. Kms2014 says:

    @sugardoll…what country are you from? Just curious…

  726. Kms2014 says:

    I had two sugardaddies with no sex included. Would be happy to offer any advice, however, neither were gay…or impotent…as I was able to feel that for myself. It wasn’t a game where I was ‘trying’ to hold off putting out or scam a SD to see how long I could put it off…it just turned out that way. I have had sex with my other sugardaddies that I had relationships with, so it wasn’t a matter of me trying to get out of that…Every situation is different. Aren’t there individuals you dated whom you never had sex with, and some that you did?

  727. aliceS says:

    @jolie sugar. You look better then Rihanna!!!!

  728. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    You write what, I am sure, many non-abusive SD do appreciate.

  729. Beach_Girl says:

    Hello Sugars 😀

    FBSD~ Hey back 😀 how have you been?

    GenuineSD~ I am sure I could fall for the right guy. I have met on SD that I could say I could of fallen for… but he’s too far and very close to my age. And I don’t think he was interested either :( lol… But yes, I think it’s possible

    Sorry I didn’t read up much on the blog, hope everyone is doing good
    Have a great Friday :)

  730. Sugardoll says:

    @Josh

    THAT is a profound statement in response to Alice’s post.

    **I say it cuz i know what is the feeling, and its not good, but we just have to go on, cuz we still have goals (at least me) and its hard to be treated poorly just because we are SB’s when they dont even know the reason why we here doing this.
    I have just 2yrs in USA, Im currently living by my own and i have to cover all myself expenses, but im trying to be productive, i have already gotten a degree and im at school getting another…I have big dreams, I had a good job and a good life back in my country, but there the education is very poor and you dont have the opportunity to grow as an independent business person unless your family is Rich. Its hard to be mistreated just because we are SB’s by the SD’s who think you are in here just looking to get pay for sex.

  731. Josh says:

    @Sugardoll

    THAT is a profound statement in response to Alice’s post.

  732. Sugardoll says:

    @josh
    “Explain me better how would be the real and how would be the figurative?”
    Awww, you’re so cute, mi amor. 😉

    **hahahahah muahh… i still dont have breakfast, my brain is still kind of slow…

    @aliceS says:
    DarkHorse yes. I know now, what that visit mean. :( how silly it was on my behalf, thinking he want to chat. For a moment I was taken for a whore I guess. Not nice feeling at all. Still feel that bitter taste, but life goes on. Thanks for asking

    **At some point we all going to go through this, some men/SD cant realized that no matter if we are SB’s we are still women, they forget that being SB doesnt mean we are not decent. (with that i dont say we cant have sex, we are humans) And at some point we are here looking for a support (allowance,or whatever) we have a strong reasons why. Some others SB’s are maybe looking to be spoil or just want to have some extra $ to spend on stupid things, but others really have hard times.

  733. aliceS says:

    DarkHorse yes. I know now, what that visit mean. :( how silly it was on my behalf, thinking he want to chat. For a moment I was taken for a whore I guess. Not nice feeling at all. Still feel that bitter taste, but life goes on. Thanks for asking