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How Do You Receive Your Sugar? (As requested by SA member “Tina”)

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Let’s be honest…

There are many different types of arrangements in the Sugar world. From college Sugar Baby with her mentor Sugar Daddy, Dom Sugar Daddy with his Sub Sugar Baby, Socialite Sugar Mommy with her Sugar Baby cub, to the entrepreneur Sugar Baby with her investor Sugar Daddy, just to name a few. Contrary to the general public’s belief that a Sugar relationship is merely a one dimensional transaction, we in the Sugar community know better. Whether you are a new Sugar Daddy/ Baby or a have been active within the community, here are a few ways that users said they received their sugar.


The obvious first is a monthly allowance in the form of cash or a check. This is ideal for a new Sugar Baby or a college Sugar Baby who may just be breaking into the Sugar game. There is also less commitment involved with this arrangement, unlike credit cards and leases which involve a series of fees and forms to pass responsibility from one signee to another, a monthly allowance can be ended with a mutual agreement and a few day’s notice.

Diamonds are a girl’s best friend…as well as clothes…new stilettos….the latest designer bag…and a new convertible too (light blue). Heck, women love gifts. Period. Next to a monthly allowance this the second easiest way of receiving sugar. And I think we can agree it’s just as sweet.

A more committed way of receiving sugar is through funding. This would include Sugar Daddy acts such as paying for a Sugar Baby’s rent, tuition, bills, or paying for  credit card. A word of the wise: we know that Sugar relationships can move faster than a typical relationship if two people really hit it off, when signing a new lease or committing to a new credit card try to have your Sugar Daddy use his name for the main account or lease and have you as a cosigner (in the case of a credit card as an additional name on the card) unless you would be able to handle the payments on your own if the sugar turn sour.

Our final way of receiving Sugar is best used for those experienced in the Sugar world and in business. Some Sugar Daddies receive great pleasure from seeing their Sugar Babies succeed or hold their own, with his help of course. Business minded Sugar Daddies like to give sugar in the form of an investment for a Sugar Babies business or project. Other more serious method I’ve personally seen is stocks or allowing a Sugar Baby to manage one of her Sugar Daddies businesses or investments.

Have you received Sugar through one of these methods? How do you receive YOUR Sugar? What is your favorite way of doing so?

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357 Responses to “How Do You Receive Your Sugar? (As requested by SA member “Tina”)”

  1. California SB says:

    Blog topic: When did you first decide to become a SD/SB and why (besides the obvious)? I’d like to see that one….

  2. Angela says:

    Dear Jeans and T-shirt guy next door,
    “Is there a way to suggest topics, I’d like to hear both SD and SB opinions on this.”

    Thank you. I’m glad you appreciate the advice. Our goal in these blogs is to inform, educate, and entertain. We are always looking through comments to find topics that our blog readers feel passionate about. Feel free to state them on the latest blog of the week. After that, our team picks up on it and if we choose to use your idea, we would indicate who suggested it to catch your attention. WE WILL BE REDESIGNING THE BLOG IN THE NEW YEAR! We are looking to add a section where Sugar Daddies and Sugar Babies alike can ask questions and suggest blog topics.

    Best Wishes,
    Angela :)

  3. Olivia says:

    Hi sugar bloggers,

    This is also my first time on this blog & I really needed that Informative advice from Angela, it’s been very helpful I must say. Still seeking in RSA, hope I find my 1st SD pretty soon 😉
    Xoxo

  4. Jeans and T-shirt guy next door says:

    First post i’ve ever made here

    Very well said Angela

    I’ve ask my only SB to do this, turned out pretty interesting, turn out she could not. She wanted money, yes this is an arrangement, but be realistic girls. I dismiss about 95% of the interested SB messages. Typically asking for $10,000 a month for webcams and pics, says they never want to meet in person. Makes you wonder sometimes what they are thinking, the Internet is full of porn like webcams for much lower prices, all the power to her is the can get that out of a guy, but I suspect most SD with money are smarter than that.

    Another issues I’ve experiences is going out to a nice restaurant for dinner and a few drink is and all the SB does the entire dinner is text during the entire time were out having dinner. Is this typical excepted behavior while out for dinner with a SD who’s giving a 3000 allowance plus 2000 gift per month? Anyone have any opinions on this?

    Is there a way to suggest topics, I’d like to hear both SD and SB opinions on this.

  5. Dove says:

    Angela,
    Thank you for the very sound advice. It makes a lot of sense to divide up the money in terms of what you need it for in a practical sense. I have had a hard time figuring out what I should reasonably ask for. I don’t really know if I should take a pot SD’s offer at face value or try to negotiate. I really appreciate the help!

  6. TexasSB says:

    @Angela…thanks so much for the great info. I’m not in the same situation as Dove, but it’s good to know the particular etiquette of SA. Learning tons since I’m looking for my first SD!

  7. Angela says:

    Hello Dove,
    The best way to approach these types of situations is to choose your preferred monthly allowance. Your profile allows you to do this. If an SD is trying to “haggle” on the price, the best way to approach this is by giving the SD an idea of what your needs are/ what you need the money for. For example, car payment, rent, bills, tuition, and extra cash. This allows the pot SD to better understand that your allowance is practical. If you have had an SD before, then yes, it is appropriate to bring that up.
    It is bad form to tell a pot that you have all these other offers and that he needs to match them. You never want to start out an arrangement that way. Honesty is the best way to go about it.
    I hope that answers your question. I’m sure other SBs on the blog will be more than happy to provide past experiences they have had.

  8. Dove says:

    Ladies and gentlemen,
    Hi, this is my first post on the blog :) I had a question about sugar etiquette. I’ve run into a bit of a problem. I’m currently on my search for a SD and I’ve run into a bit of an issue. I know that for the most part it is okay to “haggle” when it comes to deciding an appropriate monthly allowance. My issue is that I’ve got a few offers that are very similar; how often we would meet, how much I like the gentlemen and how attractive I find them. The deciding factor in these cases is, therefore, the money. But how can I bring this up without sounding like I’m starting a bidding war? I could just ASK for a higher amount, but if I do that for all of the pot SDs then I run the risk of all of them saying no thanks and losing interest. It just seems tacky to me to bring up another pot arrangement, especially in an attempt to get more money out of someone. Does anyone have any advice on how to approach this delicate issue?

  9. Jack says:

    Scarlett and ILWCG,

    Your thoughts about my software engineer friend are reasonable, but probably not correct in this case, for a couple of reasons.

    First, given how my recent divorce almost destroyed my business (not to mention my emotional well-being for a year), I reveal fairly early on in my chats with pot SB’s that it is EXTREMELY unlikely that I will ever marry again.

    Second, the software engineer is from the San Francisco Bay Area, and I am in Houston and due to how my divorce decree reads and for other reasons, I won’t be moving from Houston (at the earliest) until my girls are 18–ie, 11 years from now for my younger one. So I think marriage with me is a very unlikely outcome for anyone.

    I think the actual explanation is revealed by ILWCG’s post above–“sugar” comes in many forms! If you are seeing a guy (as has been described by several high-dollar SB’s on the more recent thread) who demands your appearance at a drop of a hat, insists you dress and act in a certain way, has weird sexual preferences and does not care about any of yours, and offers you very little that you view as positive other than money, then the SB needs what I call “combat pay” to hang out with him.

    On the other hand, if the SD is kind, considerate, respectful , healthy, young-thinking-and-acting and he feels like the SB’s non-financial needs should also be considered in the context of the relationship, then the money becomes not so important. Please also note that I actively select for smart, successful, self-confident women who do not NEED my money because they make enough of their own to be satisfied with (the software engineer makes 6 figures). After meeting the high-dollar guys I described in the previous paragraph, these SB’s might well decide that a guy like me–even with less money involved–is a far better companion for them.

    And, of course, that is PRECISELY my goal in setting the upper limit of $3000/month–I am trying to select for women who find the rest of me more important than my money.

    If the software engineer was the only one with whom I had the above experience, I might agree with you guys, but this has now happened again and again, and I cannot believe all of these women want to marry me (especially since all of them are out of state). Rather, I think they want to hang out with a nice normal guy and the fact that he can afford to do any and all activities they want to do–and is still interested in sugaring them within reason–is all a big bonus.

    Jack

    • NewSB says:

      That makes sense, since you’re looking for older women (already successful career women). For SDs who want college SBs, especially those who want college SBs from elite institutions with matching elite price tags, 3k isn’t that great. It would take 2 years to match just one year’s tuition (before even accounting for cost of living – rent, food, bus pass, etc.) and nothing is left over for the special extras that make the sugar world so sparkly and sweet (shopping, shoes, facial, and other indulgences). So I hope you see why some women have what you consider ridiculous requests? If they’re younger women, they’re probably interested in both you AND your money. Why can’t we have it all?

  10. flyr says:

    @scarlett sometimes sugar comes in the form of being treated like a princess, always ladies first……….

  11. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    Scarlett:
    ” I’d be willing to bet the reason she has been reluctant to accept sugar is because she views him as potential marriage material and doesn’t want him to look at her as just another sugarbabe”

    it is so SO true!
    I happily except cash and other form or support from a married guy, 20 years older, ! Happily.
    But

    I met a guy on SA in October, divorced (with 2 kids) , only 7 years older , handsome, altheletic , successful (and successful in my area means Succesful big time ! I was very happy he set up a first meeting with me ! I was very actually crazy ! excited to meet him (of course I googled !!! him and was so happy to meet him) . I was only afraid if he would not have a nice personality or a good sense of humor , but after first 10 min in bar I realized he is not arrogant and a nice caring person .
    He was very excited to meet me (of course he would never know I was 100 times more excited than him ! coz I did my home work and knew about him a lot.:)

    of course ! I was happy to have sex with him on the second date ! in his house , we have great connection , and i feel he gives the best oral i had so far (this is big, right?) and so on…
    If he would offer me $$$ I would be “offended” – I am not a regular SB or a prostitute ! I am a classy girl trying to build connection/ relationship with successful guy. the biggest irony is he has a profile at millionaire Match !:) I can see him in there :) and at that site $ for sex concept does not implied .

    The reason I do not care for his $$$ help coz ! Of course ! I hope (I wish) we might have more serious and may be longer relationship than sex for money .

    I knew since the first second I am not going to bring an allowances topic , no drama , or asking for any $$$ help . and we are having hot sex and admire each other (sorry may be I am spoiling the sugar bowl for other girls in my area , guys like this one is going to think – they do not need to do allowance etc. … in order to have hot sex and cum a few times in 1 hour. what can I do?)

    Guys if a girl from sugar site! did not ask for any form of financial support – I suspect there is only ONE reason – she is hoping to be your GF, fiancé , or marry you.

    (she might be just plain stupid or super horny , if you know she is not stupid – then she wants to move in with you :) coz you are available! and successful.

  12. RussianSB says:

    Actually it is very cheap – to play NSA for symbolic price of 4k :)

  13. RussianSB says:

    @ScarletteSB – exactly !
    Some women play more interesting game, than NSA for 4k.

  14. RussianSB says:

    @ScarletteSB – exactly !
    Some women play more interesting game, than NSA for 4k.

  15. ScarlettSB says:

    Several papers could be written about some of the rather fascinating sociological phenomena touched on in this thread. Although I’m not new to “quid pro quo” relationships, I am new to SA, and this has certainly been both an informative and interesting read.

    One thing I picked up on that I don’t think anyone considered, in regards to Jack’s software engineer SB with the kid: I’d be willing to bet the reason she has been reluctant to accept sugar is because she views him as potential marriage material and doesn’t want him to look at her as just another sugarbabe.

    Although…marriage is essentially sugar with a legally binding contract, but I digress :)

  16. JustATequilaSD says:

    @ContentSB
    I was in a local dive bar where a shot of the top-shelf tequila (for that bar the different Patron flavors) was $4. It’s was within a short walk from the 4-star hotel I was staying in while I was on a project. I don’t remember if it was because of happy hour or to drum up business, but you can understand why I don’t remember. What a wonderful project that was.

  17. ContentSB says:

    @Flyr — Oh I like that feisty side of yours! :)

    Breakfast at the B&B was painless….a couple celebrating their 27th wedding anniversary and a mom/daughter duo. The conversation was pretty vanilla…so I focused most of my attention on choking down food despite being more hungover than I want to admit. We went to a small local biker dive bar for a few drinks (it’s never just a few though, is it?) and the locals showed us a GREAT time! It was so much fun to kick back and not have a care in the world. @JaTSD…you’ll appreciate this…the bar’s top shelf tequila only cost $7 for a 2 oz pour. It was pretty cute because one of the guy’s there kept talking about how it was SEVEN DOLLARS, so obviously it’s some expensive tequila! I didn’t have the heart to tell him a shot of crappy tequila is easily $10 at any other bar :)

  18. JuicyFruit says:

    Of course Cash is just one form of sugar…. I love to sugar him with thousands of kisses, and I enjoy every “inch” just like someone mentioned above. The jokes, the laughters, the little cost nothing kind of gifts…. Everything with caring is sweet…sweeter than sugar !!!

  19. JuicyFruit says:

    Hello everyone! Very interesting to read blogs here. I have been on and off reading your posts to kill time and to figure out my last relationship with the man dated. I was madly in love with him…but oh well….it went south and I am working very hard on how to let go of him… Seems impossible so far lol.
    I have never call myself a sugar baby, but according to my understanding after reading posts here… He treated me like a sugar baby. Doesn’t matter if it’s a intended exchange sugar relationship or a mindset of a regular dating. Getting spoiled by the person you are attracted to is so wonderful. He used to give me cash so I can buy things I like at my own time since he and I are too busy to spend time at an actual Mall. if we travel he would give me more cash in advance for extra expenses. If I go home visiting my family out of state, he would give me extra cash to gift the family… Cash, cash, cash… Don’t we all love cash. People nowadays prefer to use credit card, but 500-1000 cash in hands to use without traces is always the best!!!!

  20. Curvy Cutie SB says:

    @Cali… I buy Canadian. Just like others buy American.

  21. flyr says:

    @content “.BUT, I always think it’s somewhat obvious I’m “The Other Woman” because of the age difference….so I’m not quite sure how to navigate breakfast with the other couples….”

    Just relax and be classy. Understand that to many wives you will be seen as a threat

    Unterstand that you are holding all the aces. Be a gracious winner. But if they mess with you have no mercy.

  22. California SB says:

    Tequila: “quid pro quo and p4p?”

    They are pretty much the same. The fucking idiot just didn’t like my allowance requirement and was just trying to find a wordy way of saying no to me….

  23. California SB says:

    Phoneguy: “Just say no to quid pro quo”

    Idiots like that don’t even deserve an answer…. I just have to click “block”. :)

    Curvy: “Who says I wear, or want cheap ones”

    Don’t support the industry period….

  24. JustATequilaSD says:

    Is there a difference between quid pro quo and p4p?

  25. Curvy Cutie SB says:

    @Guru… I could dig out my passport for something like that. 😉

    @Cali… Who says I wear, or want cheap ones. I enjoy my Canadian ones delicately gracing my small hands, and tiny ear lobes… Not to mention the delicate sparkle that comes from the 1 cm x 1 cm dancing diamond pendant I never remove. 😉

  26. Tina says:

    @Phoneguy: you off chanting with a picket sign? 😉

  27. Phoneguy says:

    Just say no
    to quid pro quo.

    😉

  28. California SB says:

    Just got an email back from a guy after I told him my allowance requirement: “I never get involved in a quid pro quo situation dear”. Wrong site idiot….

  29. Tina says:

    @ Guru: well dearest, there IS Mardi Gras coming up, so some of us would like a trip to New Orleans for a little naughty fun! 😉

  30. California SB says:

    Content: “if I wear one it might give our relationship some fake legitimacy”

    Exactly… Macy’s has some gorgeous gem stone rings for less than 100 bucks. I wear a beautiful topaz ring I got at QVC at work so guys don’t hit on me. I also wear it when I travel or go to public places with my married SDs, so I never get the “you must be his whore” look when I wear the ring. LOL

  31. Tina says:

    @Treasured: wow, what a tool!

    • SD Guru says:

      @ContentSB
      “it’s a restaurant…so we can get away with pushing the boundaries of conversation. Send them my way and I’ll be happy to report back in full detail”

      Anything else you’d like with your ben wa balls? Maybe I should have it delivered to the restaurant so you can show it to your boss? :mrgreen:
      Not sure if I can get it to you before your b&b getaway though…

      @Treasured
      “Do the search for the name Exquisite.”

      A keyword search for “exquisite” turned up 305 profiles. I had no idea there are so many exquisite SB’s on the site! :)

      “ALL BOYS – I absolutely love how you love to talk but never do any action”

      That reminded me of the “Name Your Destination” contest I started two years ago. I wonder if it’s time for another contest? Nah… so many of the blog SB’s are self sufficient, well cultured and well traveled, who’d care about such a contest now…

  32. Tina says:

    @Content: update in your inbox chica (well, as much as I can write with a cat settled on my arm) :)

  33. Tina says:

    @Content: Familiar with the movie “Any Which Way but Loose”? Yeeeeeah….. but honestly, things have settled out to right where they should be……I’m happy :)

  34. Treasured says:

    And the most annoying profile of the week goes to the member Nr. 843921

    “re-tarts” – NICE!

  35. ContentSB says:

    @Tina — Oooooooooo….with your recent mentions of bad karma I can’t wait to hear about these developments! Hoping all is well!!

  36. Jack says:

    I’m with Frank on the thin walls of B & B’s.

    I remember one B & B in Carmel, CA (beautiful area, by the way) where my friend and I heard everything going on next door–and we didn’t disappoint them in return.

    But I must say it would have been even more carefree were it not for the above-mentioned concern.

    Jack

  37. Tina says:

    @Content: I’ll definitely send you an update e-mail soon! There have been developments………..

  38. ContentSB says:

    @twice and @treasured — I think that screen shot may be necessary proof in a few weeks 😉 Come on…let a hopeless romantic have her moment here lol!

    @Cali — That’s a good idea…he never wears a ring, but if I wear one it might give our relationship some fake legitimacy and make others less uncomfortable.

    @Frank — Yeeeaahhh…already thought about those walls. Pillow biting will obviously be necessary haha.

    @Tina — Catch up sometime soon?? I need updates! :)

  39. Frank says:

    She had a policeman’s uniform on with a garter belt and fishnet hose and high heels. It was really hard to give a spanking one handed, but we had an arresting moment anyway!

    Content, that’s why I stopped using b and b’s even when I was traveling with my wife. Its just too an intimate situation with strangers. (and be careful, sometimes the walls are thin!)

  40. Tina says:

    @PhoneGuy: Hiya! *waves frantically*

  41. twiceshy says:

    “Treasured
    November 30th, 2012 at 10:39 am
    @Content – definitely not a “blogmance” or any “mance” As Twice said – a bit of a challenge ”

    *takes a screenshot*

  42. Phoneguy says:

    I think Jack takes the first position with inviting EVERY blog girl to have a holiday (but damn, the lack of time. You know, girls), with second, third and fourth place taken up by Teq, Twice and Phoneguy, with their love for “if I/you ever” (sounds like a fairy tale, doesn’t it? But instead the Prince Charming, we have Daddy Sugar, Pirate and a Fat James).
    I hope I’m the Pirate in that group. 😉

    I don’t think I tell all the blog girls I will visit or meet them. I was just joking with you. I don’t plan on being in northern Europe anytime soon and I’m sure I would fall under your spell. 😉
    I’ve probably told Tina I’ll visit and it’s just a matter of time before I make it down to Dallas for work and make the drive over.
    Hi Tina! 😉

  43. Treasured says:

    @Content – definitely not a “blogmance” or any “mance” 😛 As Twice said – a bit of a challenge 😀

  44. California SB says:

    Content: “so I’m not quite sure how to navigate breakfast with the other couples”

    I would wear a ring on the right hand ( not a diamond one please!!!). There are many beautiful gem stone rings out there. If someone looks at you and at your hand they will think you’re married or engaged and that will make people feel more at ease. I always do that when I go out with my married SDs. :)

  45. ContentSB says:

    I love a new blogmance! I can’t wait to see how this plays out…I hope every thing works well for the two of you!! :)

  46. Treasured says:

    Twice – where is the mentioned gut? You can’t get a girl all excited by a beer belly and then actually not have one. AND, looking good as well 😀 I was expecting…. Ummm… Well, not that. I think it might be worth a veeeerrryyyy long flight 😀

    hehehehehehe

  47. ContentSB says:

    @twice — Ehhhh….yes and no. Because I’ve had sugar relationships in the past I think I’m a bit removed from what the majority of people think about affairs. I’m at peace with our relationship, and it feels so natural that I often forget (or don’t care) what others might think/how it looks. However, I think being in a more intimate setting like a B&B, my self-awareness will be heightened. It seems like people would be more curious about our relationship there than somebody who sees us at dinner would be.

  48. twiceshy says:

    @Treasured , resent over SARR email messaging system.
    Might be too much detail, but it’s short notice so no time for the normal process.
    Roll the dice!!

    @ContentSB do you feel self conscious in that situation? One girl described it to me that she felt as though everyone in the room was looking at her. I can’t imagine how uncomfortable that must feel. How do you get over that, or do you ever?

  49. ContentSB says:

    @RussianSB — I travel with him on a weekly basis, so we do nice hotel stays frequently. I think this is his way of doing something thoughtful for me because it’s different than our normal routine. It’ll be a great time…we’ll just have to get our stories straight beforehand :)

  50. RussianSB says:

    @ContentSB, it is reason why I love 5 and 6 stars hotels – nobody surprised by age difference, rich and famouse meet a lot such couples. Once in InterContinental I was adressed as a ”dother” of my lover all 3 days of our stay. They decide that I am his dother. Who else? Compliment to me and my formal clothes. But he has histeric – he is very good-looking guy, very well dressed, but age difference :)

  51. twiceshy says:

    @treasured

    My gosh! my message is not in my outbox..it never sent! And it was so long ! I’ll have to send again. Wonder what happened :-\

  52. RussianSB says:

    How many times after nice mailing, on the phone I talk with someone not polite, or even drunk ? I am with both hands FOR phone talk !

  53. Treasured says:

    Which one? 😀 LOL

  54. ContentSB says:

    Eeeee!!! So excited! My bf surprised me with a bed and breakfast getaway tonight! I’ve never been to one, so I’m really looking forward to it!….BUT, I always think it’s somewhat obvious I’m “The Other Woman” because of the age difference….so I’m not quite sure how to navigate breakfast with the other couples…. :-/ I suppose it’s time to make up a story! :)

  55. twiceshy says:

    @Treasured I messaged you about an hour ago :) Check your email!

  56. RussianSB says:

    @VASD, phone call such a powerful screening tool (FOR BOTH GIRLS AND BOYS !!!),
    you can check if person is real (fakes not go all the way, they fake before phone call or real meeting), if person sound nice, formal, polite, frendly, interested in meeting you.
    Girls want to meet cool SD with gazilions month budget for SB shoping and they cannot spend 100$ for pre-paid cell for sugar dating , WTF ? Don’t buy it, she don’t want share e-mail, or phone with you – don’t buy it ! Next ! Diamond members recieve 30 letters a day,
    while I recieve as a standart member 30 letters per month, and I am attractive and desirable with ”mirror” pictures, that mean that I am real, and with profile written in fine English (kind blog fairy work on it ). Not so many proposals to pretend that I am secret agent. I am myself very interested to talk by the phone with potential SD, because I will hear BS in that case and ask spontaneous questions and see how person react. By mail – your pen pal have time to think and to choose more desirable answer , or paste ready one.Or be someone else, like in most Russian Marriage Agencies all letters from all ladies one clever educated girl (usually professional translater) write , because girls don’t know English language but also half of them have problems with Russian language also :) Few scandals was about, ane man marry , they live very happy, but after two years, when she learn English, he understand that she is completely different person, not that one with whom he have long correspondence and fall in love because of mailing :)
    But that story have happy end they still together and happy.

  57. Treasured says:

    @Twice – message me on my profile, and, let’s see you as well :)

  58. California SB says:

    Curvy: ps: 80% of the world’s diamonds come from illegal mines in Africa.(Source: National Geographic)

  59. twiceshy says:

    @Treasured.

    Found you.

    Challenge accepted.

    >:-)

  60. California SB says:

    Curvy: About diamonds: Yes, I am aware there are options other than African blood diamonds. All DeBeers diamonds apparently come from Israel, but what people don’t realize it’s that they do actually come from Africa and are ‘washed’ in Israel. Canadian diamonds, Indian Diamonds, Brazilian diamonds, Russian Diamonds etc etc…. might not be mined by 10 year olds in tribal villages, but they feed the industry. I am against the entire industry of diamonds, the obsession with stupid rings, the bigger the better; creating this vicious cycle of wanting more. People have no idea how the American diamond industry influence Africa’s blood diamond trade. Every living girl in this country dreams of getting a diamond ring… creating the need for more and more diamonds, which hellooo they don’t grow in trees. How to get cheap diamonds? No, Canadian diamonds are not cheap. Cheap diamonds come from Africa, mined by 10, 8, 6 year olds beaten everyday.

  61. VASD says:

    @Russian I met said disaster after over a week of emailing and nearly 100 messages exchanged. She didn’t want to give out her phone # without meeting face-to-face in a public place first. I was fine with that, but should have listened to my gut that not all synapses were firing–lots of issues never dealt with in email despite my asking direct questions. I guess, “Are you a nut job?” should have been one of them.

    Another statement from the lunch table I just remembered: “ARE YOU THE GUY THAT ASKED IF HE COULD COME INSDE ME?!?!” Saw the couple at the table next to us both jerk around over that one.

  62. Treasured says:

    Of course, providing you like my pictures and my profile

  63. Treasured says:

    @Boys. Ok, let’s see…. I am free next week and the weekend after (long weekend), then 2-6 of January. Will check other dates and I can travel and don’t need a USA visa. And am even prepared to travel 10 hours + ( I do hope you will make it transatlantic business). I am up for it, just to test a theory. You do have to at least have a look at my profile… Jack has seen it… All others… Do the search for the name Exquisite. I am not really keen on sharing my profile on here… Hopefully you will be able to recognize me. So, Twice, let’s see:)

  64. California SB says:

    Jack: “EVEN IF WE DON’T FEEL RICH–ARE FAR MORE FORTUNATE”

    Yes, we are. I did read online the other day about the officer and the homeless story. It did make me cry. :(

  65. RussianSB says:

    @Treasured – blah-blah-blah :) Don’t believe it for a minute !!!

  66. Jack says:

    Treasured said,

    “ALL BOYS – I absolutely love how you love to talk but never do any action This is exactly why I can who I am on the blog, as I think, I will become a Sugar Momma myself, before meeting any of the blog boys
    As Russian said – in absolute sexual safety.
    I think Jack takes the first position with inviting EVERY blog girl to have a holiday (but damn, the lack of time. You know, girls), with second, third and fourth place taken up by Teq, Twice and Phoneguy, with their love for “if I/you ever” (sounds like a fairy tale, doesn’t it? But instead the Prince Charming, we have Daddy Sugar, Pirate and a Fat James). ”

    Aw, common, Treasured-honey, busy or no-busy, my jacuzzi invite stands, if you can fit me in among your medical studies, or fit me in somewhere else! In fact, if you really want, we can even discuss anatomy, physiology or even cell-biology while I’m rodeo-doin’ ya! But I’m not sure it’s accurate to say I have invited EVERY blog girl–I can think of a couple of exceptions! LOL.

    Jack

    Jack

  67. twiceshy says:

    @Treasured “I think Jack takes the first position with inviting EVERY blog girl to have a holiday (but damn, the lack of time. You know, girls), with second, third and fourth place taken up by Teq, Twice and Phoneguy, with their love for “if I/you ever” (sounds like a fairy tale, doesn’t it? But instead the Prince Charming, we have Daddy Sugar, Pirate and a Fat James).”

    :-)

    All my offers are sincere. With one particular blog person (with whom I am still enamoured) I was quite serious, we just couldn’t come to a suitable compromise. With all the other offers I was always serious as well. Everyone I want to meet has to fly to me anyway, so it isn’t as though it would be something out of the ordinary. I mean what I say :) You include me in that list and you haven’t even called my bluff yet…so I will call yours!

    Message me, and I make travel arrangements today! >:-)

  68. Jack says:

    AND WE NOW INTERRUPT OUR REGULARLY-SCHEDULED (ARGUMENT) PROGRAM TO BRING YOU THIS HEARTWARMING XMAS STORY:
    ==========================================================

    You have to like what NYPD Officer Larry DePrimo did for a barefoot man in Manhattan one frigid night this month. In fact, more than 260,000 Facebook users have “liked” DePrimo’s actions, a number that’s growing every day.

    After a tourist from Arizona snapped a photo of DePrimo, of Holbrook, giving the man socks and boots to ward off the cold, the image became an instant hit on the NYPD’s Facebook page.

    As of late Wednesday, the photo had been shared 47,716 times, boosting subscribers to the department’s 5-month-old page by 7,000, to 95,000, officials said.

    “I had two pairs of wool winter socks and combat boots, and I was cold,” DePrimo, 25, said Wednesday, recalling the night of Nov. 14, when he encountered an unidentified, shoeless man on the sidewalk on Seventh Avenue near 44th Street.

    DePrimo offered to get him socks and shoes.

    “I never had a pair of shoes,” the man replied, according to DePrimo, who’s assigned to the Sixth Precinct and has been on the force nearly three years.

    The officer walked to a Skechers store on 42nd Street and shelled out $75 for insulated winter boots and thermal socks. He returned to the man, knelt down and put the footwear on him.

    “He smiled from ear to ear,” DePrimo said. “It was like you gave him a million dollars.”

    The officer asked the man if he wanted a cup of coffee, but he graciously declined and went on his way.

    “I didn’t think anything of it,” DePrimo said of his generosity.

    But during dinner that night, he got a text message from a friend. The photo had gone viral.

    “I was absolutely shocked,” he said.

    =================
    IN THIS HOLIDAY SEASON, WE SHOULD ALL REMEMBER THAT MOST OF US ON THIS BLOG–EVEN IF WE DON’T FEEL RICH–ARE FAR MORE FORTUNATE THAN SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE ON THIS EARTH (ESPECIALLY IN COUNTRIES OUTSIDE OF THE US), AND A RANDOM KINDNESS, AS DEMONSTRATED BY THE POLICE OFFICER IN THE ABOVE STORY, CAN BE REALLY MEANINGFUL TO SOMEONE IN GREATER NEED THAN WE ARE.

    Jack

  69. RussianSB says:

    Cultural part.
    We have the same verbal expressions, blog culture, Russian president and prime-minister have blogs, and love twitter. We have Disney kids channel (all Russian kids love the channel), Discovery, MTV, VH1, Fashion TV. American TVshows : (we have all of them) Desperate Housewives (I love it) , Dr.House (the most popular), Walking Deads, LOST, Californication, American Family, Tudors, Bordgia, War of Throns, Cooples (British), Midsummer Murder, etc. Supermarkets shelves : Nestle, Loreal, Revlon, MaxFactor, Procter&Gamble – so, same what you used to find in your closest shop, sometimes I think that even in the same order organised. And , of course all fashion and new fragrances . We are live similar styles. Sugar style is more natural for Russians because we have still more asian mentality than european. And you have bigger tax and medical insurance pressure. But, really, not big difference, BUT… TAMALES !

  70. frank says:

    I”m going to feel the glow this afternoon. A former sb emailed me informed me it was her birthday, and didn’t I want to give her a proper birthday spanking?

    Just can’t disappoint her!

  71. RussianSB says:

    I can discuss details of arrangement only with man who want have it with me, what sense to discuss it with man who don’t like me ?

  72. RussianSB says:

    @VASD, about your crazy date, when you talk by the phone with her, does it appear to you that she is noisy and stupid, or like many do theese days, you just offer to meet by e-mail ?

  73. RussianSB says:

    @Flyr… you make me think that I am in LA area ! But something wrong with my LA, snow reach knee-level and all flights cancelled today !

  74. RussianSB says:

    @VASD – unlike most SA SBs I am not looking for platonic sponsor. I can accept valuable gifts, diamonds and envelopes only from my lovers. So preparing nice X-mass basket for me (Stratocaster, Samsung, dosen of panties, tamales) you must yourself be prepared in all the right places :)

  75. RussianSB says:

    @VASD, even I with my poor English understand Tina, she mean by ”steril” – harmless, clean, bacteria-free :)
    @Tina, thank you for explaining me ”let out of bottle” nd ”cat” thing, it was VERY sweet of you, but I am so surprised – we have exactly the same expressions in Russia, that mean the world become smaller !

  76. flyr says:

    “I don’t know if my theory works, but if you can’t enjoy food, you rarely can enjoy everything else.”

    Great comment,I love food, especially healthy food.

    The follow-on from that is if they are fussy about food (what phase of the moon was the tuna caught under or I never eat green peas with red meat) the are probably fussy about everything else.

    On a somewhat related subject – being in the LA area during the week is a constant reminder of all of the people who know the price of everything and and value of nothing.

  77. Goldfish says:

    It looks like CaliSB and I have something in common at the moment 😉

    I’m feeling the glow, too!

  78. Treasured says:

    @ ALL BOYS – I absolutely love how you love to talk but never do any action 😛 This is exactly why I can who I am on the blog, as I think, I will become a Sugar Momma myself, before meeting any of the blog boys 😀
    As Russian said – in absolute sexual safety.
    I think Jack takes the first position with inviting EVERY blog girl to have a holiday (but damn, the lack of time. You know, girls), with second, third and fourth place taken up by Teq, Twice and Phoneguy, with their love for “if I/you ever” (sounds like a fairy tale, doesn’t it? But instead the Prince Charming, we have Daddy Sugar, Pirate and a Fat James).

    @ALL GIRLS – Yet I do think, that if someone was organising a meet, us girls, would definitely try to make it (well, the ones who are interested, of course).

    You see, guys, there is a difference between boys and girls on this blog… Boys are all about “blah blah blah” and indeed, talking “out of their various body parts”, yet girls – are quite and quite decisive, and indeed, do know what they are talking about :)

  79. California SB says:

    I fucked the shit out of my SD tonight….. im exhausted. In a goooood way :)

  80. Curvy Cutie SB says:

    *ans = and *sigh* typos

  81. Curvy Cutie SB says:

    LOL frank! That ans soccer are how mine got as thick as they did… Which is why I am toning them.

    Curves are more fun… Something sexy about hips to hold onto. Ya know!?

  82. ContentSB says:

    @Tequila — Absolutely. You’ll have to check your email for a message from sextoyaddict @ naughtySB.com

  83. frank says:

    Thighs, I’ve got those, from riding my bike.

    Curves are more fun!

  84. Curvy Cutie SB says:

    Tits… Ass… & Thighs… Tis where I carry the curves.

  85. frank says:

    umm T A T? Thematic Apperception Test?

  86. Curvy Cutie SB says:

    LOL! I don’t have one of those… I have the T, A & T covered. I am sure someone around here has the belly to match out the rest of what I have.

  87. frank says:

    LOL, just working on belly for now.

  88. Curvy Cutie SB says:

    @frank… Do let me know when your chest rivals mine. We can start a club ok.

  89. frank says:

    Just been sitting here catching up on the blog, eating potato chips and lamenting the fact I can’t go to the gym. My six pack is slowly turning to draft beer.
    I guess I’m becoming an acquired taste. sigh

  90. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Treasured
    ” Bad bad boy”
    Yeah, and I thought us fat ppl were supposed to be jolly. 😀

    @ContentSB
    can you send it to my biz email… BlogGirlsGoneWild.leaked.video.sex.tv.com

  91. Tina says:

    @PhoneGuy: hey! Not EVERYONE talks out of their @ss here! :(

  92. Phoneguy says:

    @Phoneguy, I had a feeling you’ll take not fitting into envelope comment to be about cash. It wasn’t, it was about other nice gestures that a gentleman SD would do
    Also, if you’re going to use percentages, please include your methodology and margin of error, thank you :)

    @Madridista,
    Ah, non-cash, ok.
    I included a 😉 at the end of my comment to show I was (mostly) kidding and just being a smart@ss.

    My methodology was looking at thousands of SB profiles, talking to a handful of SDs and then authoritatively talking out my @ss like everyone else here. 😉

    Come now, let’s be nice. Just because you disagree with someone’s opinion or assessment, it doesn’t mean they’re trolling. Their experience is just different
    I think Teq has already addressed this but I will add my own witticism. I totally agree with you…in that my experiences have lacked living under a bridge and harassing passers-by. 😉

    @Treasured.
    I will not take you up on your wonderful offer even though it would be one of the highlights of my life. I love romance and am sure I would totally fall for you. Not that I wouldn’t know you were faking, I just wouldn’t care. How about I will let you know if I’m ever in your neck of the woods? :-)

  93. Curvy Cutie SB says:

    @JATSD… I laugh over much of what I read. Mainly because I suppose I am old enough that I have learned better. I absolutely love that you came back with the sith lord comment though I wouldn’t have put you as a sith lord. Maybe Qui-Gon Jinn is closer to how I would picture you. No need for more to think like Yoda either… One of me is more then enough. 😉

    1. I was stood up when I was a size 6… Interestingly my “fat arsed” self has never been stood up. Cancelled on, and rescheduled but never stood up. It was almost as if… I became a person instead of an ideal or an object.

    2. I am not a 4/6. I am above a 4/6. In fact I am an acquired taste, and even when I am slimmer (which is the direction I am very quickly sliding) I will always be an acquired taste. I suppose I wasn’t offended because I am not aspiring to be a 4/6. It looks atrocious on me.

    That’s not to say I don’t have a reason for slimming down a bit more (I mean who really needs K cups – and we’re not discussing a coffee maker here), and I intend to fine tune a few things (plastics can be well done and in the future I am sure), but even then I am still not going to be a size 4. I’d look like a scarecrow again and I really like curves. Mine and others. *naughty grin*

    Though I do hope that those who don’t fit 1 persons ideals… Find the confidence to embrace them-self. Be it through the Sugar world as I did, or an alternate means.

    3. I already stated that my way is different from others in that I am still friends with former SD’s. I adore them with all my heart… I will be honest enough to admit there are some men, and women in the world I couldn’t be around even if I had enough sugar to clear my credit card debt, pay off my house, and have the best plastics in the world with about 5 years vacation time to back it up. The good news is I have yet to meet a man who falls into that category here on the blog.

    4. I don’t need to “peek inside” as I am all too familiar with what goes on in the heads of women who think a certain way. I have 3 sisters and one of them could be playing “clone wars”.

    5. I am not condoning insulting others. I was trying to make a point that this allows her to vent, blow off steam and express the true nature of how she feels about Sugar Relationships and those who engage in them. It is telling, and in truth I hope she eventually finds something that fulfills her. I simply don’t believe you arguing the other side will ever bring her around to that.

    On top of that… The odds that 1 SB has 3 SD’s when she has ideals of 5K+ a month & a BF. I believe the BF. There may even be 3 SD’s, but I find it hard to believe all 3 meet her expectations, and hopes which is enough to piss most women off.

    6. I am older… 32 is still young to most of the world, but in the SB world I am positively long in the tooth. *soft smile* Good thing I am an acquired taste, and taste positively divine. It always falls into place when it is intended to.

    @CaliSB… While I can understand your apprehension about “Conflict Diamonds”… Might I kindly suggest you re-think the provenience of the Diamonds you are looking at. It is entirely possible to have diamonds that do no harm.
    http://www.canadiandiamondcodeofconduct.ca/EN_canadian_diamond_brands.htm

    It’s a “Canadian thing”.

    *said while smiling and admiring the little bits of sparkle she’s wearing*

    I am not trying to be mean… But damn girl! I have a close friend who thought like you do now. I truly hope you fair better then she has.

    As for telling someone who is not YOUR size to enrol in a “gym” and “stop eating potato chips”… Sometimes darling. One can “get there” without forgetting the gym, and eating junk food. *sigh* So young to be unaware of that.

    *points to self* Mesomorph… Keep your gym. I’m limited to the pool now, and activities which build NO muscle *sigh*. I do love how some are unfamiliar with how this can exist and push their own ideals.

    @Treasured… + 1 on cutting carbs, and preferring men who enjoy food. It’s not just food they devour with intensity. *purr*

    As for pretty things that sparkle… I have a weakness. It is well known. Though I prefer it in moderation so I will take all the delicate pieces (anything with too much size looks like I am wearing my mothers jewellery and playing dress up).

    @twiceshy… A small keg can be fun. There’s something delightful about something to rub all the important parts during cowgirl. *sigh*

    And… My thoughts on “hot people” sex.

    I have had fabulous sexual escapades with those who would have pushed the limits of “chubby chasing”… And I have had mediocre sex with those who were so incredible looking that they almost hurt to look upon. If one hasn’t the ability to do more than “look pretty”… Then I likely don’t have the ability to remain interested. It is a simple reality.

  94. Tina says:

    @VASD: silly man, I wasn’t calling YOU sterile! I just know that you don’t have sterile blog posts……uggggh, you smart men are so difficult sometimes!

    Oh my, that’s a sad, sad clueless girl. Apparently with the holidays the ninnies (LOVE that word, as long as it isn’t applied to describing me of course) are out in force. I’m sorry that you’re suffering from an intellectual vacuum :(

    If you’re ever in the Austin area, let’s do lunch! :)

  95. VASD says:

    @Tina Sterile?? I’ve got 3 lovely daughters to proove I’ve got lead in my pencil

    @Russian Funny–Once upon a time I was a pro guitar player and own 14-15. i could probably pick you out a very nice Stratocaster. I personally am not a fan of them as a player–just my taste–but love a good player who can really rodeo one (RIP Stevie Ray Vaughan). I had a custom one once made out of padouk that was so heavy that I couldn’t play it for more than a few songs at a time. My current guitar of choice–Gretsch Nashville.

    My gripe of the day/week. Having a hard time finding a good SB locally. Interviewed several this week who were total ninnies. Met one for lunch today who–despite my explicitly asking her not to ahead of time–wanted to talk in the restaurant directly about the prospective allowance–AND DID SO VERY LOUDLY. “AND WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT TO DO TOGETHER BESIDES THE SEX?!?!” I kid you not. Thanks, but no thanks. NEXT!

  96. ContentSB says:

    @Tequila — Hahaha just saw your post about the YouTube video. If I ever made a video like that I can assure you it wouldn’t be published publicly (not even in the name of scientific research), but instead would be sent to you and Guru privately 😉

  97. Treasured says:

    Teq – Captain bit was just mean. Bad bad boy 😛

  98. JustATequilaSD says:

    **too no to**

  99. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Treasured
    The bluff and blah blah blah part wasn’t specifically for you, I thought you would see that. But if you are ever in the area, that was still your invitation to .

    As far as my fantasies, we all still live in the real world. I don’t have fantasies. I have agendas. I always get what I really want, but I do enjoy chatting with my blogmates for a good laugh and friendly camaraderie.(So it won’t hurt me to be Captain Save-A-Ho for an infamous blog troll. We all have our favorite charities.)

  100. Treasured says:

    Twiceshy – you have no idea 😉
    Northern Europe… And yes, 3rd out of 6. 6 if you count Latin :)

  101. Tina says:

    @twiceshy: damn! I’m missing out on a sure thing? Just my luck! Dang Karma! :(

  102. twiceshy says:

    @Treasured Ah, Europe. The space between :) What part of Europe? And your THIRD language? Wow. Eastern Europe? There seems to be a lot more to you than a pair of pretty lips…

    @Tina Well depending on how the rest of December goes who knows. Now it’s a sure thing, later…not so sure!

  103. Tina says:

    Awwww @twiceshy that just not fair! I’m busy until after Christmas! :(

  104. twiceshy says:

    @Tina limited time offer, December is busy after the 15th for me.
    That’s funny, it does sound that way doesn’t it! Look up blue waters inn, tobago. That was on my list for the year, but haven’t made it yet.

    *dangles carrots and other things infront her!*

    Lol!!

  105. Treasured says:

    @Emily – I think you would have done so much better in Europe. It is the centre of men with sexual fantasies. And being opened minded. Do you mind me asking, are you pre-op or post-op?

  106. Treasured says:

    “Unfortunately, outside of the blog, there are 50,000+ women between me and you. When you come to the deep south of the U.S., then call my bluff. Say I ran away from your legs, or couldn’t give you an orgasm. Until then, all this blog can be is blah blah blah. Sorry”

    Hmmmm…… I do not remember myself ever insisting on meeting up with you to call your bluff…. You don’t take my little teasing too seriously, I hope 😉
    So, looks like our Tequila is having little fantasies of his own 😛

    “The sb’s and traditional dates that have been fortunate enough to see my pics, and meet me in person have never had a problem with my size…in any department.”

    BUT I think AFTER THAT you are obliged to send your picture 😛

    @Twiceshy – Oh no, I am European.. I thought you can tell it from the way I use some expressions (English is my 3rd language)…
    By the way, It just has started snowing here and it is STUNNING.

    “Some Caribbean loving away from the cold would certainly do you good. ” – My oh my…. Girls, I think we have found the one 😉 Dirty pirate fantasies, Caribbean holidays….. Ummm…
    And certainly not the one to be easily scared off or give up, despite my all best intention to frighten off all the boys from the blog. I am impressed… A little 😉

  107. Transgendered Emily from Massachusetts says:

    As a transgendered woman I receive my sugar in a certain way since women of my persuasion very often find themselves discriminated against when it comes to employment. I would say transgendered women are about where biological females, so-called real women, were about seventy years ago. In other words we just don’t have a lot of opportunities available to us so many of us are more or less financially reliant on the men in our lives.
    I receive my sugar in the form of any kind of assistance a man is willing to give me which sometimes involves references when I’m applying for a job or an apartment, or financial assistance.
    Receiving sugar as the above article states varies from relationship to relationship and from Baby to Baby.

  108. Tina says:

    Whoops! I meant @twiceshy, not Tequila! :)

  109. Tina says:

    @Tequila: you sound like a bad Publisher’s Clearing House commercial…… 😛

    After the 15th does your cost increase? Are you a limited time offer?

  110. twiceshy says:

    @Tina well I was making time for one more person , so let me know. It could be you! ^_^ I’m free till the 15th !

  111. JustATequilaSD says:

    @RussianSB and @Treasured
    Unfortunately, outside of the blog, there are 50,000+ women between me and you. When you come to the deep south of the U.S., then call my bluff. Say I ran away from your legs, or couldn’t give you an orgasm. Until then, all this blog can be is blah blah blah. Sorry.

  112. Tina says:

    @RussianSB: I will have to disagree with you; in person, this is true. But on a blog, the anonymity of it can help the freak come out. I’m not NEAR as open (at first) in person as I am on here. I’m actually a little shy in person (again, at first). So perhaps Tequila is the sexual deviant he portrays himself to be, you never know.

    @Tequila: want to prove me right? 😉

  113. Tina says:

    *scratches head* hmmmmm somewhere I’ve never been…..not sure if I’d make it to Europe…….need a beach vacation…….

  114. RussianSB says:

    You are not virgin, Tequila but you are not sexual maniac, either :)
    Usually the most silent boy in the room is the most grate in sex…
    So, Tresure, all we need it is to find that silent boy …

  115. twiceshy says:

    @Tina you can get a direct flight to Europe through Tobago :-) Virgin Atlantic. I’d cover you to get to Tobago lol.

    @Treasured you’re in Europe? I always thought you were somewhere in the US. Some Caribbean loving away from the cold would certainly do you good. You can leave all notions of “shagging” in ye olde europe though, and prepare yourself for something new ;-P

    This entry suddenly reminded me of a Chris Rock interview in which he said he had lost track of the number of girls he had put through college in his time.
    I didn’t understand it then…I do now :)

  116. JustATequilaSD says:

    @RussianSb
    Don’t tell everyone.

  117. Tina says:

    Oooooh, RussianSB let the Tequila out of the bottle! :)

    (@RussianSB: I meant that as a play on letting the cat out of the bag, hope you’re familiar with that! If not, I can explain where it came from 😉 )

  118. JustATequilaSD says:

    @RussianSB
    Ok, you figured it out…I’m still a virgin.

  119. RussianSB says:

    Tequila is young and hot and fit and has Quazillions of dollars and bloody diamonds and he marry someone from Kennedy clan or Royal blood ! (sorry, Taquila)

  120. Tina says:

    @RussianSB: I wouldn’t say that everyone would be safe sexually if we were within arms reach………..

  121. RussianSB says:

    @Tequila – blah blah blah

  122. JustATequilaSD says:

    @CaliSB
    And if you’re challenging me to “fool you, friend you, f**k you, and fling you”, I will take it into consideration. I do love a challenge, but it would also mean that you got what you wanted after all. And I hate being manipulated more than being called fat. What to do? What to do?

  123. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Treasured
    It’s a movie. Chris Farley was a very overweight actor. It’s a “fat boy done good” story, til he died of cardiac arrest. So I definitely don’t want to follow in his footsteps. This is as far as I’ll defend my “fatness”. The sb’s and traditional dates that have been fortunate enough to see my pics, and meet me in person have never had a problem with my size…in any department.

  124. RussianSB says:

    @Tresured
    (I am in need of a shag! I am in need of a shag! I am in need of a shag!) hehehehehehehe

    And what ? And nothing… who said that sexually active people on SA ??
    You absolutely safe here, I told ya.

  125. Treasured says:

    Cali – have fun 😀 And enjoy your evening :) I am having my nails done tomorrow and I am going for the red too 😀

  126. California SB says:

    Lunch time right now where I am, sneaking out of work to do my nails to meet my SD later on tonight. He is not tall but at least he is fit…. phew…

  127. Tina says:

    Hmmmm, I think I might have to make sure my layover stops where Twiceshy is…….@twiceshy, where are you again? 😉

  128. Treasured says:

    Can I also please have a Twiceshy? pretty pretty please?! With a cherry on top??? THOSE boys have to be punished 😛

  129. Treasured says:

    YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! YEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!

  130. Tina says:

    @Treasured: I’ll pack Tequila in my suitcase and book a flight 😉

  131. Treasured says:

    Tequila, you have lost me with the Fat Ninja thing 😀

  132. Treasured says:

    @Tina – Yes, Miss 😉

    Only for you 😛

    Unfortunately, I am in Europe. But if you do come, please… DO come :)

  133. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Treasured
    Chris Farley made millions as a fat Beverly Hills Ninja. But I just don’t see him as my role model.

    @RussianSB
    And yes, I can do every sexual thing I claim. I’ve got a list of references several inches long on wide ruled paper. :)

  134. Tina says:

    @Treasured: so, where are you again? 😉 I haven’t had any encounters as a dom, but I’m willing to try! *purrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr*

  135. California SB says:

    Talking about opening a blog gym…. reminds of the Maine Zumba Madam…. I wonder if that’s how she started…. 😛

  136. Treasured says:

    Tequila – I understand why 😀 No girl can resist a man who makes her laugh 😀

    hehehe

  137. Tina says:

    @RussianSB: I actually just set up a little get-together with some girlfriends of mine to bake/decorate Christmas cookies. This year most of my gifts to friends will be baked goodies, mainly because that’s what they asked for! :) Some are simple like oatmeal raisin cookies, while others are more difficult not knowing what they want, so I have to be creative 😉 Oh darn! I think I might channel my inner child and have to make something decorated with items kids like (gumdrops, gummi bears, etc.)

  138. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Treasured
    Cali only wishes that is what I fantasize. I’ve had better than her. I’ve had worse than her. I’ve dated models, goth chicks, rich girls, trailer trash, foreign exchange students, and every girl in between. There is no girl on this planet that can resist a fat James Bond. :)

  139. Treasured says:

    @Twiceshy – since by that time I will be all bound and learning to behave 😉 I will whisper whatever you want 😀

    hehehehehe

  140. Tina says:

    @Twiceshy: why weeping? Didn’t you see Treasure’s post about preferring a man with a little extra since men who can enjoy food can usually find passion and enjoyment in other things? Don’t weep dear sir! :)

    (And if your compass gets stuck in the north position, I’m SURE a few of us could help it relax 😉 )

  141. California SB says:

    twiceshy: “moral compass at work, just not a conventional one. Fascinating.”

    I hope you’re not overweight too, or I opening a blog gym!

  142. Treasured says:

    @Tina – I sill can’t get over you being behind me, and now all the gemstone talk. YES! YES! YES!

  143. twiceshy says:

    @JustaTequilaSD “WTF? Now you have a conscience?????????”

    Yes…there seems to be some sort of moral compass at work, just not a conventional one. Fascinating.

    *Makes notes on clipboard*

    @Treasured how are your rectus abdominis? Will you whisper that in my ear? ” Oh I love your rectus abdominis Twiceshy…” I think the biology talk will get me erectus maximus..

    Ha ha haa!! :)

    I have graduated from the six pack to a very small keg. 😐
    *weeps quietly*

  144. RussianSB says:

    @Tina, I think a grate speaker Tequila is quite safe as a sexual maniac…
    You know some people just TALK too much, and some people just DO it.
    Put all the blog in Jack’s jacuzzi and it will be the most safe place in the world for me.

    But for your baked goodies I can give my soul and body to devil. Here you go, Dear !

  145. California SB says:

    Tequila: Do me a favor… enroll at the gym and be healthy. Stop eating all those potato chips. Seriously… Yes, I do have a conscience.

  146. Tina says:

    Sweet! I got Treasured to screech in ecstasy! Take THAT you manly SDs! 😉

  147. Treasured says:

    @Tina – YESSSS!!! Ok, boys, forget all I wrote before! Few diamonds a week will give Treasure all she seeks 😀

  148. Treasured says:

    @Twiceshy – THAT was HOT! I think you officially overdid Tequila’s little fantasy of rodeo fucking Cali 😀
    Can I also please be tied up, spanked for being a very bad girl and taught a lesson how to please my new master? 😀

    (I am in need of a shag! I am in need of a shag! I am in need of a shag!) hehehehehehehe

  149. Tina says:

    @twiceshy: that was cute! *pats him on the cheek*

    @Treasured: I’m right there with ya! I love gemstones of all types – precious and semi-precious! I do love me some diamonds, but I have a weakness for opals, turquoise and coral too! Ooooh, and tanzanite! And alexandrite! And emeralds! Sapphires! oooooohhhhhhh I need to go jewelry shopping soon….

  150. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Tina
    ” I’ve also met some beautiful women who are ugly on the inside which demeans their physical appearance.”
    Some ppl won’t get it til they turn 30 and spit out some kids. They can’t figure out why a guy wouldn’t get turned on by their immature rants, or why a fatty would try to help them when they are such a bitch. But what do I know?

  151. twiceshy says:

    @RussianSB you know instead of writing a plan you could just show me around! Ha ha ha!!!
    I have a compass, on my cell phone. The internal compass gets confused sometimes.

    I heard about another Hard Rock Hotel in Central America, and it got rave reviews. I have to visit one soon :) I think the DR is closest. The Jouet Perrier doesn’t seem bad. I thought it would be extremely expensive, but it’s affordable *wink* !

    @Treasured We could roleplay Duchess Treasured if you like, I’ll be the swarthy pirate seeking to plunder your booty…;-)

    oh, that was so corny.
    /facepalm
    ^_^

  152. Treasured says:

    I’LL HAVE THE DIAMONDS! AND RUBIES! AND PEARLS 😀

    I am a bad bad girl 😀

    PS: Tequila, nothing to do with the age 😛 But, as long as you are happy 😀

    By the way, I could never understood why six-pack is called six-pack… Because, there are only two muscles which make those cubes… Rectus abdominus x2 (left and right)… But, if we take into consideration all muscles of the abdominal wall, there are 4 on each side, so 8 altogether 😀

  153. JustATequilaSD says:

    @CaliSB
    Or am I the first “fatty” to completely turn down your advances. I can only imagine what’s going on in your mind. But I would like to know. I’m listening.

  154. JustATequilaSD says:

    @CaliSB
    You’d have to get married first. Did you not get that. You can’t leave me at an alter that I don’t show up to.

  155. Treasured says:

    Cali and Tequila – you are both adorable 😀

  156. Tina says:

    @Treasured: I agree with you. I do have to be physically attracted to a person, but that isn’t my only criteria. I’ve known and do know some very hot men that are a**holes. This makes them SO much less attractive to me! I’ve also met some beautiful women who are ugly on the inside which demeans their physical appearance.

    I would rather be with someone that is sincere, honest, and fun as opposed to just “hot”. Many “hot” men I’ve met are just plain boring. I’d rather be mentally stimulated by someone with a few extra pounds than bored to tears by someone with a six pack. Blah!

  157. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Treasured
    I’m fine. I traded in my 6 pack for a partyball many years ago. I’m 40 and loving life. :)

    @CaliSB
    “The smart ones who actually know where they come from and how many people are killed because of them.”
    WTF? Now you have a conscience?????????

    • Jersey Darling says:

      I just have to ask, how do you send a private message to someone on these forms? After reading these comments, I’ve been dying to message Tequila and don’t have a way.

  158. California SB says:

    Tequila: So, divorce court: You can keep the stuffed bear and the CEC tickets. Oh, I’ll never blog marry again… damn.

  159. JustATequilaSD says:

    @CaliSB
    Keep in mind. I turned down your p***y long before you turned down my fat. If you wanna go junior high school playground with this.

  160. California SB says:

    Tequila: “What kind of Disney princess doesn’t like diamonds? ”

    The smart ones who actually know where they come from and how many people are killed because of them.

  161. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Tina
    Have no fear. CaliSB isn’t wife material, nor is she my type.

  162. Treasured says:

    Tequila – are you overweight? From the ex chubby girl, the only thing what works is cutting out carbs (all of them), eat less calories then you take in and , of course, working out.

    But, if I have a choice between a skinny guy and an overweight guy, I would choose an overweight guy…

    I don’t know if my theory works, but if you can’t enjoy food, you rarely can enjoy everything else.

  163. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Leila and @CaliSb
    Married LOLOLOLOLROFLMAO Been there done that and got the t-shirt.(Which she’d love to get half of.) Marriage is a great institution, if you think you should be “institutionalized.”

    What kind of Disney princess doesn’t like diamonds? Are you allergic? Or you think telling ppl you only wear rhodium will make you be the belle of the ball?

  164. California SB says:

    Tequila: “Fat SD’s get stood up sometimes, and they hate being reminded of it.”:

    oooooooooooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

    Tequila is overweight!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now it makes sense why you never sent me your picture!!! Wow, thank god I left you at the altar!!!!

  165. JustATequilaSD says:

    @CurvySB
    that long post was for you

  166. JustATequilaSD says:

    “Why are you pushing so hard/trying so hard to bring CaliSB around to your way of thinking?”
    I could say it’s because I’m a contrarian. I could say because I’m a dick. I could say because there are parts of her that remind me of myself, back when I was a dick and didn’t know I was a dick. I don’t mind debate, discussion, or even argument if it has to go there (sith lords are like that,ya know,lol.) But saying inflammatory stuff just for the sake of itself, is either a cry for help or a request for conflict. Everyone has their opinion, but you must expect to get picked on when you display the tact of a high-school cheerleader.

    Cali’s Greatest Hits:

    “Why would anyone stand me up? I’m not fat or ugly.” (You didn’t know fat and ugly women aren’t the only ones getting stood up? Fat SD’s get stood up sometimes, and they hate being reminded of it. She almost hurt my feelings. Dangit.)

    I’m a 4/6. No man wants a woman covered in layers of fat.(Should all women over this size feel slighted, or just the women that already felt insecure?)

    6-figure SD’s are trailer park trash losers. (Will saying this get any more SD’s to pay a higher allowance? That only works in the strip club.)

    Jack do you really think sb’s want you for anything but your money? Thanks for playing. Buh-bye,now.(Why piss off a potential “client”, that’s just STUPID…oops,maybe I should have said it doesn’t make sense.)

    I can see a difference in opinion, but if you’re going to be an annoying little bitch about it just cuz Daddy didn’t buy you a pony, expect to be treated as such. On the other hand, I try the high road. Since I occasionally deal with people that act like her, I see her as an opportunity to peek at the underlying sub-structure, and perhaps find someone in there that I really like. And if she “fools me and friends me”, oh darn gosh golly. I’d be one of 2 people that I know of that didn’t want her for what they thought they could squeeze out of her. I try to treat most people this way when they let me.(BlogSD are boy scouts, didn’t you know? Or maybe we’re just “Johns” waiting to be sucked dry…you decide.)

    Juggling 4 relationships,hobbies,grooming, and still finding time to pop in and insult us. I should feel honor. What a humanitarian.

    You are wise, and from your own mouth, older. I’d like to think you’ve outgrown juvenile pettiness.(Someday I will, maybe.) Oh, if more sb’s could think like Yoda.

  167. California SB says:

    Leila: “caliSB and JASTSD should get married”

    Tequila I am against diamonds don’t forget it…. I am also against wedding dresses…and weddings. Wait… I can’t do this, sorry I am leaving you at the altar. 😛

  168. California SB says:

    I see another great paper being written for another PhD thesis: “Disney Princesses, the impact on sexuality and the royalty complex in women”….

  169. Tina says:

    @Leila: before JaTSD is taken off the market, I insist that Treasured, RussianSB and I all get a turn at corrupting him fully 😉

  170. Leila says:

    @everyone, I think caliSB and JASTSD should get married on this blog:) their relationship is like watching a sitcom lol! I am not complaining,entertaining indeed!

  171. RussianSB says:

    Treasured big opera fan !

  172. RussianSB says:

    @Twiceshy,or maybe you have compass ?

  173. RussianSB says:

    @Zoey
    My avatar is Masha from Masha & Medved ,
    my profile picture from Playboy :)
    @Twiceshy
    Hard Rock, I write you a plan for you not lost in there, 3000 rooms, it is huge !
    Romantic dinner with your favorite Jouet Perrie waiting for you (it is complement of hotel, you just need to choose a day)

  174. NLSD says:

    i throw it at her feet while she is undressing me

  175. Treasured says:

    I want to see her and Garanča. And compare 😀

  176. Madridista says:

    Oooh, I’ve been wanting to see her in Anna Bolena as well. It’s the only role I haven’t seen her in.

  177. Treasured says:

    Off topic. I am dying to see Netrebko in “Anna Bolena”.

  178. Treasured says:

    @Twiceshy. Have you got anything on offer? 😀 Dutchess Treasured – sounds good 😀 hehehehehehe

    And, my research is just a good general knowledge and the help of Mr.Google 😉

  179. California SB says:

    twiceshy: “aspire to the Nobility?”

    We all grew up playing Disney princess of course we consider ourselves royalty for life. :)

  180. California SB says:

    On the red long nails subject…. I think men love it because it’s kind of slutty in a classy way. 😛

  181. Madridista says:

    Ah, the courtesan vs escort debate. Treasured did an excellent job of describing the difference above. I’d like to think of myself as maîtresse-en-titre, the ultimate courtesan like Madame de Pompadour, Diane de Poitiers, or Gabrielle d’Estrées.

  182. twiceshy says:

    @Treasured …hmm. I see you have thoroughly researched this topic 😉

    You view yourself as a “cortigiane oneste” and aspire to the Nobility?

  183. Houston Azúcar says:

    Good blog topic! Its so hard finding sugar in Houston!! How much more “How to receive it”. Are there any Sb’s in the Dallas,Austin,San Antonio area with any advice on where to find some potential sugar?

  184. ContentSB says:

    @guru — it’s a restaurant…so we can get away with pushing the boundaries of conversation :) Send them my way and I’ll be happy to report back in full detail 😉

  185. Treasured says:

    Oh well, Twiceshy…

    “There were two types of courtesan. In one category was a type of courtesan known (in Italy) as the cortigiana onesta, or the honest courtesan, who was cast as an intellectual. In the other was the cortigiana di lume, a lower class of courtesan. Although the latter was still considered better than an average prostitute, the former was the sort most often romanticized and treated more-or-less equal to women of the nobility. It is with this type of courtesan that the art of “courtisanerie” is best associated.
    The cortigiane oneste were usually well-educated and worldly (sometimes even more so than the average upper-class woman), and often held simultaneous careers as performers or artists. They were typically chosen on the basis of their “breeding”—social and conversational skills, intelligence, common-sense, and companionship—as well as their physical attributes. It was usually their wit and personality that set them apart from regular women. They were prostitutes in the sense that sex was one of their obligations, but unlike the average prostitute, sex constituted only a facet of the courtesan’s array of services. For example, they were expected to be well-dressed and ready to engage in a variety of topics ranging from art to music to politics.”

  186. Curvy Cutie SB says:

    HEY! I love my nails long and red. My signature colour was Not Really Just a Waitress from OPI for years… And my nails were always about an inch. The problem is.. As much as I love Delilah by Zoya now. I have to keep it to the toes as I work on computers all day. *sigh* Darn IT day job!

    Unless of course a SD sends me to get them done, and tells me to book off for a week.. 😉

    Have you ever noticed that men seem to almost trip over themselves over pretty red fingernails? It is almost as cute as having a hand painted design on your toes and watching who responds.

  187. twiceshy says:

    And in my post above that should have started : ” I believe the SBs that I have met would go out with me if it weren’t for money. However if it weren’t for this site we never would have gotten that chance to meet. If it weren’t for money we never could have afforded to meet.”

  188. twiceshy says:

    Ok, I misunderstood the posts made in the last few blog entries then :-) I’ll accept that and move on heh heh

    I don’t see it as not my role when I ask how things are, what’s going on…and the person actually does tell me what’s going on. Or when we are together she may get thoughtful and we have a chat. Definitely don’t be calling me to offload at your office politics though…yeah…not that!

    I always thought escorts were courtesans, and SB was a step above Escorts…. ;-P

  189. Madridista says:

    Love you too, Cali and Treasured :)

    @Treasured, you’ve nailed it with a courtesan comparison.

    My SD love red nails too! Maybe some SDs who feel the same would like to comment on that?

  190. Zoey says:

    @RussianSB OMG, your profile pic is Masha from Masha & Medved 😀

  191. Treasured says:

    Yes, Madridista – rocks 😀

    Cali, I love you too 😀

    hehehe

    What is it with the red nails. I haven’t met a man yet who doesn’t love them. Guess normally no one would really do them – too much hassle. But hey, that is what we are for 😀

  192. California SB says:

    Getting my nails done at lunch time. My SD#1 loves bright red long nails. I hate it… but I do it for him. That white envelope at the end…it’s all worth it. :)

  193. California SB says:

    Madridista: “She may be bored out of her mind and starts conjugating Hungarian verbs in her head, but still fanes interest and attention. Do you want her to yawn in your face and tell you how she really feels?”

    I love you too Mad!!! You rock!! :)

  194. California SB says:

    Treasured: “As one of my SD says, I am an antidote to stress and he feels 100% happy when we are together. And that is why he keeps coming back again and again. I do not do drama. I do not get ill (even if I am, he will never know)”

    I love you girl! Me and all the SBs on this blog. :)

  195. Madridista says:

    @twiceshy, it’s not all act with most, but it’s an act about some things, especially in the beginning. For instances, when you’re in a conversation that a SB may find boring, but she attentively listens and makes witty comments at just the right moment and asks just the right questions — that’s her acting. She may be bored out of her mind and starts conjugating Hungarian verbs in her head, but still fanes interest and attention. Do you want her to yawn in your face and tell you how she really feels? When a SD asks me how my day was, we all know he doesn’t want to hear my diatribe on work politics and how I’m pissed that my team didn’t play well.

    No one implied that things aren’t genuine or it’s all an act, but some of it has to be to make it a sugar relationship versus traditional. It’s nice that you let your sugars to call/email when they’re feeling down, but it wouldn’t fly with any of my SDs. It’s supposed to be sugar and spice with them and for other issues/problems they assume I have enough friends and resources to get some emotional support. A lot of SDs mention not wanting drama, so acting about some things is how we remove our daily drama from our time with our SDs.

  196. Treasured says:

    @twiceshy – No one has ever said that there were no feeling involved. With some – yes, none. With others – more.
    But, none was “in love”. And it never should be. She will leave you one day for younger/richer, you will leave when you get bored.
    So, yes, I developed a genuine friendship with some of them. But I would never ever even allow myself to go into “in love” mode. That does not allow you to think rationally, makes you possessive and generally, is a major complication in sugar relationship.

    Sorry, but NONE of the SDs I have been with would not even contemplate listening to my problems. For those are girlfriends, wives, family. SD have a LOT of things to worry about. And a perfect SB should never be that.

    As to SB and escorts. Well, SB is a form of being an escort.
    But more ancient form of it.

    Remember courtesans of Venice. They kept VERY few customers (Sugardaddies, if you wish), were there to keep company, not just for sex. Were amongst the most educated, witty, smart and beautiful women there were. And, they were able to choose men they wanted to be with.
    This is what I would think of myself. A courtesan. Definitely not an escort. Sugarbaby?… I was told many times by the men I have been with, that I am not a “Sugarbaby”. I am a lover. I am a person, whom they can talk about anything, starting from marriage problems, till disclosing a very private business information, knowing, that that is where it stays.

    As one of my SD says, I am an antidote to stress and he feels 100% happy when we are together. And that is why he keeps coming back again and again. I do not do drama. I do not get ill (even if I am, he will never know), I am never late. In my company
    I am a woman, who can accompany you to the opera and actually tell the difference between “La Traviata” and “Turandot”, go with you skiing or just spend an evening doing nothing. And, if you want to go to “Chunky Cheese” or whatever is an equivalent and won’t bat an eyelid (because I am there for YOUR comfort, not the opposite).
    You get the picture.

    What you have described, for me it is just a relationship with a sugar on top.

    I am a level above. At least I like to tell myself that 😀 Because in the end, it really is whoring 😀

  197. California SB says:

    Men are the most adorable creatures… so easy to fool, a few kisses, a few laughs… done!

  198. California SB says:

    I would actually make the Six Fs. I do cook for some of my SDs so let’s not forget to “feed them” before fooling them.

  199. California SB says:

    That;s a great one twiceshy…”The Five Fs. “Find them, Friend them, Fool them, Fuck them, Forget them”. That’s my new motto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  200. Madridista says:

    @Phoneguy, I had a feeling you’ll take not fitting into envelope comment to be about cash. It wasn’t, it was about other nice gestures that a gentleman SD would do without you asking because he knows you’ll like it or it’ll make life easier for you. Those things don’t physically fit into an envelope even if they do involve financial transactions. Besides while current SD may be an outlier to what most SBs experience in terms of wealth, most SDs would have more class not to put cash in an envelope and hand it to you. As many mentioned, when their allowance comes in cash it’s inside a gift or slipped into a purse, not left so impersonally like you’d paid an escort. It’s very reminiscent of Sex and the City episode where a French guy leaves money for Carrie in an envelope and that’s how most women (sugar or not) may view cash in envelope situation. Don’t be lazy or inconsiderate put it in a gift or a card. Moreover, some SBs may be travel companions and they may receive sugar in form of a dream trip with all expenses paid — that won’t fit into an envelope as well. Also, if you’re going to use percentages, please include your methodology and margin of error, thank you :)

    Come now, let’s be nice. Just because you disagree with someone’s opinion or assessment, it doesn’t mean they’re trolling. Their experience is just different and for a lot of blog readers who may find themselves in similar situations can find all kinds of tips here from SBs and SDs who have known a wide range or arrangements and sugar.

  201. twiceshy says:

    I believe the SBs that I have met would not go out with me if it weren’t for money. Really not true. They all would have gone out with me. However it weren’t for this site we never would have gotten that chance to meet. If it weren’t for money we never could have afforded to meet.

    What some in this blog entry are describing sounds like high class Escorts or Call Girls with “Clients” . You put on a show with your Client, you are always acting and always glamorous. But in reality you do not care for or about the person, it is all a game, and it is all a show. That’s an Escort. And even some Escorts aren’t that cold with regulars (yeah I tried that too. Been a long 5 months). What I’ve seen described in a few blog entries is absolutely no genuine feeling and emotion being shared, all superficial. That is scary and the R word “relationship” doesn’t apply to that scenario in my view. That’s an ongoing transactional arrangement.

    However on the other hand they want genuine attention, they want genuine advice; they want genuine mentorship and gifts; genuine and thoughtful gestures. I think those are women to run from, not to have something long term with. They are likely to turn all Sharon Stone on you!

    As Shabba Ranks said, The Five Fs. “Find them, Friend them, Fool them, F* them, Forget them”

    It is completely not what I have found to be the case in my own limited experience so far. The people I have met are regular, real and genuine people, they aren’t actresses. Sometimes they get quiet and sometimes they even get sad and need to talk about things over email, the phone or whatever. It’s a give and take which doesn’t become overbearing. And then there are many happy moments, and thrills.

    I’m getting a completely skewed perspective from reading these entries that does not match my experience as someone brand new to this. :-)

    I’ll have to pick just one soon, though. I think that is best for me. Although I had someone that I made contact with and have been talking to over the past two months, who now seems “comfortable” to meet. Do I say sorry, too late, all applications are closed? lol. I’m getting some odd vibes there.

    But Miss South America…she’s so…her personality coupled with looks. She has that model look…chic and sophisticated. There are flaws, but forget the flaws. Those looks and personality together? and her smile. Is there even a “decision” to make?

    And hey, maybe I should try this whole “pretend” thing as well! Instead of geeky Mr. Regular perhaps I should be….

    Bond.

    James Bond.

    Ta dut ta daa
    ta daaa daaa
    badadummmm..ta daa daaaa!!

    Hard Rock, DR here I come! Shaken not Stirrrrrred
    ha ha ha !!

  202. California SB says:

    Tequila: “Yes, I want to know the real you. And I don’t need to sleep with you to do that.”

    I’m still waiting for the email….. you’re a few keyboards strokes away. Write, I’ll give you my cell and we can chat. No mystery. Up to ya.

  203. California SB says:

    Going to meet SD#1 tonight. I really don’t feel like meeting though. When it’s starting to feel like work… something is wrong. Urgh!

  204. Nawty Molly says:

    Morning!! It’s been a while since I’ve been here and I see lots of new people! Thats a good thing! 😀
    I hope all is well and everyone had a nice Thanksgiving! I ate too much, but, my pecan pie was a hit…lol! I think the pie was gone in about a minute.

    Time to catch up on the blog! 😀

  205. Curvy Cutie SB says:

    Good morning Sugar Bloggers!

    Some thoughts from an older SB…

    @JATSD… Why are you pushing so hard/trying so hard to bring CaliSB around to your way of thinking?

    Granted. There is a “joking” undertone in your posts to her, but there have been so many you’ve made that have read like an appeal to her changing her ways. What purpose would it suit?

    In reality… This blog is exactly what she intends it to be. A place to chat, play, and vent any venom she would otherwise be unable to vent. She has 3 sugar relationships and a BF presently (her outline of circumstances in another post). Attempting to juggle 4 men, enjoy your own hobbies, remain groomed and maintained in the style which one is accustomed, and still find time for yourself… Is rather time consuming.

    @Treasured… The ability to fall a little bit in love is the exact trait that makes a lovely SB. It also puts one at risk of genuinely falling in love. Be careful with that particular attribute. It can spiral and shock the socks right off of your pretty little feet.

    I feel like Yoda here… “When you look at the dark side, careful you must be.
    For the dark side looks back.” I am sharing because “Always pass on what you have learned.”.

    @Frank… Remarkably it appears to be a semi-legit email address.

    1. Google is your friend.
    2. There are a large number of paid “look up” services which service those searching for information on people in the continental US for a modest fee… I’ve used them previously and if you are genuinely concerned might recommend doing some research and making use of them yourself. They are a bust for Canadian’s for the most part but half of my business (for my day job) was US specific previously.

    To all:

    There has even been the implication that there is a bit of trolling going here. You know what they say on the internet don’t you? Don’t feed the trolls.

    Or as Yoda would say “Yes, a Jedi’s strength flows from the Force. But beware of the dark side. Anger, fear, aggression; the dark side of the Force are they. Easily they flow, quick to join you in a fight. If once you start down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will, as it did Obi-Wan’s apprentice.”

    *wanders away muttering about adorable green men*

  206. Treasured says:

    Tequila…. Mmmm…Looks like someone else is experienced in playing 😉

  207. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Treasured

    The Next Good Guy:
    I wouldn’t lie to you. I may tell you horrible shit that will break your heart anyway, but at least it wouldn’t be a lie. And once you spin your web of deception and I’m in love with you, look in the mirror and cast the love spell on yourself. We’ll both be happy til we let someone wake us up. That’s just the way love goes, and it doesn’t get easier just because you have money or a fine education.

  208. RussianSB says:

    I will change my Metric system for IOughtYouInches system !!!

  209. JustATequilaSD says:

    @CaliSB

    All comes down to the “if they really wanted to know who I am, they wouldn’t be paying me/ gifting/ traveling/pampering me”. They would just take to CEC and make me pay for my own long island tea….

    I’m debating whether or not I should waste the money on a lump of coal for you a month from now. CEC and Long Island tea is not what you really should expect at this point, but it’s better than slapping the shit out of you and saying shut the hell up. You’ve had enough of that in your life already. Yes, I want to know the real you. And I don’t need to sleep with you to do that. Unless you’ve been lying the entire time, I’ve started to put many of the pieces together, but you sure do make it hard for people to “want” to get to know you. And “I don’t need anyone” can be your answer all day long, but you still come here to tell the peasants they’re worshipping you all wrong. Do like Treasured said and make us all fall in love with you (without using your vagina.) Then maybe you can let go of some of that bitterness, anger, and insecurity.

    And by the way, if you want us to remember your birthday, you have to tell us before it arrives.

  210. RussianSB says:

    (GURU)So the obvious question is… how many inches did it take?? And what if you didn’t have enough, will they take an IOU?? LOL :)
    I was confused before what inches you talked about…

    Phoneguy, don’t test the theory… look at those lips, how you can say NO to her ??

    My ”old sharks” never will buy my lie, so I am not even try ! They are too cinical about everything, the worst thing that I startarting share their point of wiev about life.

    To the blog topic – how people recieve bribes nowadays ? Sure, nobody use cash with such good developed electonical banking :) :) :) I know they don’t use cash for that in Russia anymore, so when I see on the news bribe scandal with big envelope included I undertand that this is ”made up story”

  211. JustATequilaSD says:

    @CaliSB
    aka Lil Ms.SmarmyPants:

    “thanks for playing”
    You have a horrible attitude toward people. I will indulge your bad behavior by upgrading you from a hug, to a spanking…then you get a hug. Just because you wouldn’t hang out with Jack w/o cash that’s no reason to be a royal bitch about it. The person you claim to love is not a billionaire, but despite that fact, you still run back to him. Obviously there is something he gives you that you aren’t ready to let go. If you’re a pretty girl, you can find good dick anywhere without falling in love with it. There must be a hot guy somewhere that makes more money that would like you. Yet you still run back to him. You feel you have something good that is more than just about how much money he has. And if you’re going to see him for another 7 years, understand that he may or may not look super hot anymore. But you still plan to be there. So I see that you are capable of not being shallow, but in the case of Jack, or almost anything that you don’t see as your “immediate” benefit, you choose to be a troll. You have my attention. I hope you enjoy it. Easier to have asked for it though.

  212. Treasured says:

    Phoneguy – want to test the theory? 😀

  213. Phoneguy says:

    Don’t underestimate the power of a beautiful and smart (very smart) woman and a good actress.
    @Treasured, yes, yes, I get it. Your kung fu is strong. 😛

  214. JustATequilaSD says:

    @SDGuru and @ContentSB
    “try them out [the ben wa balls] and report back to the blog”
    If you send them to her can you ask her to post a detailed video documentary on youtube, in the name of science of course.

    @SDGuru
    “[Margaret Thatcher] She’s all yours!”
    Business is business. RTK !!!

    @Treasured and @CaliSB and @Everyone
    “YOU would not pay, if we were not beautiful and smart. WE would not date if you were not wealthy.”
    OK, so maybe MANY sd’s wouldn’t. And maybe MANY sb’s wouldn’t date older sd’s without cash. But what EVERYONE (sb and sd) is looking for is someone to hoot their hooter, buy their chairs, bring them soup, or whatever it is they feel they need. There are actually good-looking women out there where money is not their primary focus for their lives. The funny thing about love is that you can fall in love anyone. Stones feel nothing, if you can get one to fall in love with you, surely two people can get each other to fall in love. Maybe someone will actually make you believe that you are in love with him, as you are doing the same. Here’s hoping.

  215. Phoneguy says:

    @Phoneguy, I’ve never received cash in an envelope, even from SDs from SA. Does that mean I’m on the wrong site? Besides, what I expect from my SDs won’t fit into any envelope.
    @ Madridista, I like to speak in broad generalizations…which in this case apply to 90% of SBs. Like many have said, if you are successful, keep doing what you’re doing and ignore the advice on the blog. I have $10k in an envelope so, um, grats! 😉

  216. Treasured says:

    Oh, no. Actually I do 😀 MY lies are never found out! Be excellent in everything – that’s my motto 😀

  217. Treasured says:

    But… Yes… On the whole… I really have no right to grumble 😀

  218. Treasured says:

    @Tequila – Just so you know… THE particular one does not lie. Not to me. Unfortunately I can not tell more details 😀

    Or, the other one…

  219. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Treasured
    “I can make a stone believe I am in love. IF I WANT to.”
    Just remember, you’re telling the biggest and the best lies, so you can’t get mad when those same stones break your trust. “why can’t I just find an honest man that won’t lie?” You built a glass house, and date rocks, what did you think would happen?

  220. frank says:

    Treasured-I believe you could make me believe, and probable any man, because we want to believe we have something so special that even a much younger beautiful woman would want to spend time with us. While I am sure you are a great actress, you have a receptive audience! That’s why I said earlier about my self, there is no fool but an old fool.

    So in a way, I think its love (or maybe infatuation), that’s what is so special about the sugar relationship. It makes me feel young and viral again. Of course, I think deep down, just speaking for myself, I know that its not about how special I am, its how special my money is.

    On another note, been messaging back and forth with another pot sb. She says why don’t you email me at ashley_hooker14.
    So maybe her last name is hooker, or maybe she has been a hooker since she was 14. Can’t decide what that email address means. Of course i had to go back on my meds after PT so I am a little confused.

  221. Treasured says:

    And also… A man will NEVER ever find out that I was just a good actress. Even after we break up. I can not even get to imagine, how bitter one should become. I am not cruel, after all :)

    • SD Guru says:

      Wow, another hot day in the blog! Did somebody say gang bang… and ben wa balls?? :mrgreen:

      @ContentSB
      “I had an interesting chat with my manager at work about ben-wa balls. She claims they’re the best thing ever…”

      You talk to your boss about such things?? Just like all the other sex toys out there, the best way to find out whether it works for you is to try it. I’ll send you some ben wa balls and all you have to do is to try them out and report back to the blog with your experience. Deal?? 😉

      @RussianSB
      “Do you, personally, believe in life after sugar, GURU ? I do !”

      Of course there is life after sugar, and it’s up to you to decide when it starts!

      @VASD
      “And a couple were quite happy to just be paid by the inch…”

      So the obvious question is… how many inches did it take?? And what if you didn’t have enough, will they take an IOU?? 😛

      @Jack
      “And “fitting” personalities for an LTR is much harder than fitting the sexual parts, isn’t it?”

      I’d argue that the answer is not an obvious “yes” as you implied. Finding sexual chemistry could be just as elusive as fitting personalities for an LTR. Just because the sexual parts are made to “fit” doesn’t mean it’s going to be OMFG great sex. It takes a lot more than that!!

      @Treasured
      “YOU would not pay, if we were not beautiful and smart. WE would not date if you were not wealthy.”

      Once again blunt but true. And you were the one that also said gang bang?? 😎

      @Frank
      “She says why don’t you email me at ashley_hooker14… Can’t decide what that email address means”

      Her last name is Hooker and she has 14 personalities. Good luck! 😆

      @JATSD
      “Mrs.Thatcher would get bent over in that shower just like any other warm female body that wandered into my shower.”

      She’s all yours! 😯

  222. Treasured says:

    And… I don’t do it very often at all. “You have to be responsible for those whom you have tamed”.
    So I do not go on breaking hearts left and right.

  223. Treasured says:

    @flyr – Nothing frightening. A person feels like on top of the world, I have the ability end up things (again, if I wan to) without any complications and you had the time of your life.
    AND since I haven’t given up the thought of really falling in love, you can never know. Perhaps just THIS time I am not playing. Perhaps :)

  224. flyr says:

    “I can make a stone believe I am in love. IF I WANT to.”

    That’s a frightening thought .

  225. Treasured says:

    And, boys and girls – let’s keep piece in the playground.

    YOU would not pay, if we were not beautiful and smart. WE would not date if you were not wealthy.

    Anyone else, who suffers from delusion that it happens because of any other reasons is welcome to join ifoundloveinahaystack

    :D:D:D:D:D

  226. Treasured says:

    @ Phoneguy “It cracks me up when people deal with these amazingly smart, successful and driven people and assume they are smarter than them for no good reason. I doubt there are a ton of idiots on this site. They may want to believe the lies and they may self delude but I really doubt, deep down you are fooling them.”

    Don’t underestimate the power of a beautiful and smart (very smart) woman and a good actress. I am not talking about most excuse examples you get (like Frank on here).

    It does not happen in one day. Requires 24/7 work when I am with someone I want to feel that way. Every single of my word, gesture, look is thought over (although, with experience now I know what to do automatically in some cases).
    I can fool with a fake body language, fake tears (should be used very very very rarely)… And like a good actress, I can even get into character and actually feel a bit “in love”. But just that much “a bit”.

    I can make a stone believe I am in love. IF I WANT to.

  227. Madridista says:

    @Phoneguy, I’ve never received cash in an envelope, even from SDs from SA. Does that mean I’m on the wrong site? Besides, what I expect from my SDs won’t fit into any envelope.

    @Jack, I think you’re being a bit sensitive about some things Cali said. Even if the SBs you brought up refused sugar in the form of cash or gifts, they still got sugar in different form. Maybe they were looking for a professional, worldly, intelligent and interesting man to hang out or spend the weekend with? I used to know several women working on their graduate degrees who complained about not meeting and dating men, such as yourself. One said one hottie was chatting her up and when she mentioned being in grad school he said, “What’s that?” and when she explained her degree he said, “So you like read books and shit?” Maybe the Home Depot cashier guy that Calli used as an example is similar to that guy. I’m not trying to start a class war, but for some SBs status is sugar and for them a new experience to be with a professional man versus less educated or average Joe-ish. A man of your status and education won’t say a thing like the one in my friend’s example and women who haven’t experienced hanging out with a more professional and educated men would be attracted to your status regardless of sugar that comes in a form of dollars and gift ribbons. For them your status is sugar.

    Jack, also notice you like to bring up median income examples. It’s fine that you’ve established a budget or income limit; however, why compare any sugar gifts to US median income? Why that matter that some SBs receive more in a month than a median income of an average woman in States? Some sugars live in expensive cities in US and in Europe — cities that have over median or average prices from everything from cigarettes to houses. It’s one thing to establish limit for oneself, but it’s another to argue or justify it because it happens to be a median income of one area/place/country. Most of SBs don’t have median tastes or expenses, so not a fair comparison.
    Besides, not to sound like a Maybelline ad, but maybe some of us are worth spending more on? Some of us spend 6 days a week working out, achieving and maintaining perfect hair, nails, skin, etc, catering to our SD’s every whim and fantasy, laughing even when his jokes aren’t funny, have marathon sex until wee hours of the morning even when we’re tired, listen to his problems, know how to read his moods and to relieve his stress, and make sure we make his time with us is the perfect escape from his worries and daily grind??? Those of us who provide irreplaceable benefits are worthy of more and can find SDs with no trouble who can provide more because they recognize in us attributes that are not as easily replaced as mere looks and hot body. Just look at Madame de Pompadour — the perfect SB!

  228. flyr says:

    Following on Jack’s comments

    Most of the studies ignore pension benefits. The public sector worker retiring at 55 or 60 with a $60,000 per year CPI adjusted pension has the equivalent of a couple of million – assuming that the state , local or federal government does not collapse.

    The other side of the equation is your share of the public debt and unfunded obligations also amounts to a huuge sum per family.

  229. Curvy Cutie SB says:

    Oh I love being Canadian…

    Cash is trash… but it to date has gone with everything I wore (though with our multi-coloured money that is debatable).

    Cash has come in envelopes, without an envelope – just slipped into my purse, or under my phone…. In a cute card. In a gift bag (small with tissue paper), in the cloth wine bag, slipped into my bra or the waistband of my thong (dirty girl fantasy time), etc.

    Gifts… I have travelled, been given a number of items, etc.

    Shopping… I’ve bought many items simply by glancing in the direction of the item I want.

    PayPal is… Instant into my verified merchant account (cough… I shop sometimes). It is then typically 5-8 days to come down into my bank account. Just the joy of being Canadian.

    I have HypeWallet, TrustCash, etc. as well. I mentioned I shop right? *blushes and looks innocent* I swear it is not all for myself!

    Interact Money Transfer. Any Canadian with a bank account can send an email money transfer from any email address, to any email address… We click the link to bring it down, select our bank, enter our own account, answer the security question and VOILA! We have electronic money. Chase Quick Pay is like this (though both need an American bank account).

    Deposited directly into my bank account (we shared a bank).

    Western Union use to be lovely… When it was 1000$+ as the “need id” value. Now it is 300$+.

    I think the most ingenious way of receiving money from a distance was a fedex envelope, with a “birthday card” and over 3k in cash. *shakes head* I was a bit stunned but appreciated that…

    International Money Orders – always work for international relationships.

    Pre-paid Vanilla Mastercards – allow me to pay a handful of household bills so handy.

    Gift cards, and e-cards to my stores of choice, etc.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    I actually dropped the SA site into a conversation today. I was having a conversation with a women who said she tried the site, while being observed by a 30 something male who would do well to learn what it is to be a SD… And a more mature gentleman who clearly is inclined toward being a SD. *purr*

    Time… Place… It wasn’t happening but oh my… I could feel the SD vibe coming from him and it drove me wild.

    *sigh*

    I find the “in between” frustrating. I love my Sugar Relationships but am still sorting through the potentials right now.

  230. Jessie says:

    @PhoneGuy – Thanks. I like knowing all the the options that are available to us ;).

    One other method that no one has mentioned yet is a money order. I, of course, wouldn’t advocate this unless you’ve been with your SD for a while, as it requires that you give him your address.

  231. Phoneguy says:

    @Jessie,
    And there are no fees with Quickpay.
    No, just her email address or phone number.

  232. Jessie says:

    @PhoneGuy – It sounds like the only difference with Chase Quickpay and Paypal is that the money goes directly to your account. So, would the SB need to let the SD know her Bank/AC #?

  233. Jack says:

    SOBERING ARTICLE BELOW (MY COMMENTS IN ALL-CAPS):

    The idea that poor and middle-class Americans are suffering is nothing new: Anyone with access to the news (or, for that matter, to an ordinary suburban neighborhood) is likely to notice that it has gotten harder for average families to make ends meet. Beyond that, a veritable army of economists, politicians and pundits has spent the past few years pointing out the growing gap between the rich and everyone else.

    Now, a recent study by New York University economics professor Edward N. Wolff has put the decline of the American middle class in a whole new perspective: According to Wolff’s calculations, the median net worth of American households has now reached a 43-year low of $57,000 (in 2010 dollars).

    THE MEDIAN TOTAL HOUSEHOLD WEALTH (NET WORTH)–NOT ANNUAL INCOME–IN THE US IS $57,000. SO IF AN SB WERE TO GET A MONTHLY ALLOWANCE OF $3000 PLUS $2000 FOR GIFTS AND TRAVEL COSTS PER MONTH, THAT EXPENDITURE PER YEAR WOULD EXCCEED THE NET WORTH OF OVER HALF THE HOUSEHOLDS IN THE US.

    On the surface, the fact that American households are poorer and less stable than they were in 1969 is shocking. And the deeper one digs, the more it becomes clear that the situation is even worse than those headline numbers suggest.

    The median, after all, is the midpoint, which means that there are an equal number of households above and below that line. And we don’t have to go far below that line to find troubling data.

    According to Wolff, between 1983 and 2010, the percentage of households with less than $10,000 in assets (in constant 1995 dollars) rose from 29.7 percent to 37.1 percent.

    AND A $1000/MONTH ALLOWANCE–WITHOUT A SINGLE GIFT OR OTHER ITEM OF VALUE–WOULD AGGREGATE IN A YEAR TO AN AMOUNT GREATER THAN THE NET WORTH OF MORE THAN 1/3 OF THE HOUSEHOLDS IN THE US.

    SOBERING INDEED–EVEN WITHOUT COMPARING OUR ECONOMIC STATUS TO THE MEDIAN IN OTHER COUNTRIES.

    BUT WHAT I FIND DOWNRIGHT FASCINATING BASED ON 40+ YEARS OF TRAVEL TO NEARLY 20 COUNTRIES IS THAT DESPITE THEIR FAR LOWER ECONOMIC STATUS, MANY OF THE PEOPLE LIVING IN OTHER COUNTRIES SEEM TO BE FAR MORE SATISFIED WITH THEIR ECONOMIC STATUS THAN WE ARE WITH OURS.

    HOW IS IT THAT IN COSTA RICA, WHERE THE MEDIAN INCOME IS WELL UNDER $1000/MONTH, I SEE NO HOMELESS PEOPLE AND PEOPLE I SPOKE TO SEEM TO BE HAPPY WITH THEIR ECONOMIC STATION?

    HAVE THEY PERHAPS DISCOVERED THAT MATERIAL THINGS DO NOT BRING HAPPINESS?

    Jack

  234. Jessie says:

    @PhoneGuy – Why aren’t you taking your own advise? Seriously, does no one think that we’ve read/heard enough already…or are we at the point where we’re posting just because we like to see our name in “Print?”

  235. California SB says:

    Phoneguy: don’t,need your compliments: Oh, they yes do… trust me….

    Powerball 5-16-22-23-29. I didn’t win. boooooooooooooooooo

  236. Phoneguy says:

    With a nice bank account…. I can tell you anything you wanna hear….

    Confident, powerful, mature men don’t need your compliments little one.

  237. California SB says:

    All comes down to the “if they really wanted to know who I am, they wouldn’t be paying me/ gifting/ traveling/pampering me”. They would just take to CEC and make me pay for my own long island tea…. :)

  238. Phoneguy says:

    @CaliSB,
    Yep, you know more than everyone. All the millionaires, doctors, lawyers, leaders of the free world. You rule them all.

    Go get a hug from Teq little girl.

  239. California SB says:

    Phoneguy: “You don’t think he sounds confident, educated, worldly, sincere, compassionate?”

    With a nice bank account…. I can tell you anything you wanna hear….

  240. California SB says:

    Phoneguy: “I really doubt, deep down you are fooling them”

    When 52 year old men start believing 25 year olds like them for who they are and not their money…. they are fooling themselves. I always tell my SD I really like them for who they are. They believe it. Even I start believing it…. LOL LOL LOL

  241. Phoneguy says:

    I should win an oscar for best sugar BS talk. They believe every crap I say.

    “But I think they like to hear all that BS even though deep inside…. they know none of it’s true.” – I actually DO believe that they believe in all that.
    It cracks me up when people deal with these amazingly smart, successful and driven people and assume they are smarter than them for no good reason. I doubt there are a ton of idiots on this site. They may want to believe the lies and they may self delude but I really doubt, deep down you are fooling them.

    I’m interested in how this works. I could go do some research but much prefer to pick your brain 😉 . Is it kinda or close to Paypal?
    @Jessie, kinda. You create a Quickpay account and link your bank account to it. It it’s non-Chase they send 2 small deposits. You tell them what the amounts were so they know it is your account. Then you can send (or request) fund transfers from your bank to theirs. They get an email asking for confirmation that they want to accept the funds. If it’s Chase to Chase it happens instantly. If it’s non-Chase to Chase it takes a couple days.

    PS: Jack post a pic of you with an income of 35K and an occupation as cashier at home depot. Let’s see how many sugars will write back…
    @CaliSB, c’mon. Whatever you think of Jack, you don’t think he talks a good game? You don’t think he sounds confident, educated, worldly, sincere, compassionate? I don’t normally compliment other men but you are being ridiculous.

    @Jack, we gotta just stop feeding the troll.

    There are those on this blog who need 10,000USD a month allowances
    @twiceshy, there is no one who “needs” 10k a month. 😉
    Every now and then an SB will post something like that and it irks me. They want it. The most I’ll tolerate is you “require” (i.e. demand) it. No one “needs” 10k a month, not in New York, not in Moscow. 😛

    (let us not to talk about high end and super generous SD, just a “regular / most common” SD/SB )
    @ILWCG
    Right…the “regular” ones handing over 4k for a week. I’m sure this is right smack in the 50th percentile of allowances. 😉

    For a regular relationship I still like the simplicity of opening a separate account at a bank that you use. She gets a debit card that magically grows. It’s in the SD name
    @flyr, this sounds like a nice option. Maybe I should consider it.

    if a girl has a problem with an envelope full of cash, she is on the wrong website. 😉

  242. twiceshy says:

    If the SB is local, then one may tend to use cash.

    If the SB expects money in USD, however, in some jurisdictions this is controlled and one either has to pull accrued US funds from a Business Account, or queue with their bank over time to receive the funds. Or Wire Transfer funds,which still requires a waiting period. Seriously, some jurisdictions have strict limits of 500US over the counter, and one must make a request in advance for more funds. Which is all recorded, reasons noted etc.

    Persons who find themselves in those circumstances may find it a lot easier using Paypal which relies on easily refilled credit cards, and which is a fairly secure method of transfer.

    The site is international, and different jurisdictions have different challenges.

  243. flyr says:

    continued

    The debit card has the further benefit of being able to help in an emergency or opportunity, she sees a great airfare deal for the two of you or the perfect shirt for you.

  244. California SB says:

    Jack: “I doubt a lot of cashiers at HD have an MD, PhD and a JD degree”

    Yes, they are in love with your diplomas that are wallpapering your wall, not the income that these degrees are attached to.

  245. flyr says:

    Initial meeting

    From some time ago…………. I think it is good form to offer a SB who has driven a long distance a gift to cover the fuel ++ early in the meeting. In addition to being reasonable it hopefully takes away the potential feeling of being used if the meet does not turn out well.

    For a regular relationship I still like the simplicity of opening a separate account at a bank that you use. She gets a debit card that magically grows. It’s in the SD name- guess an SB might worry that you would take the funds back but she’s trusting you with her body and soul so this is a minor risk.

    I have an aversion to paypal for a couple reasons including a past prior experience . Transferring funds could not be easier . You open your site at the institution , click transfer funds, pick the accounts and amount and click it is done.

    I have always felt that the envelope filled with cash is a little tacky after the first consummation of the relationship. OK if the envelope ends up in the SB bag or pocket without her handling it. Cash on the dresser is never appropriate.

    I’m sure there are SBs who have no problem accepting a handful of bills and it may be a positive motivation, However, it’s not typical with those with whom I have been involved.

  246. Lola7 says:

    You guys are fun. I just come to this blog to read all your comments ha!

  247. Tina says:

    @Tequila: my special someone is pretty dang amazing, and we seem to have some pretty good communication. Because we have a little distance issue, we HAVE to communicate well. But he makes me happy, and the only little stumble we had we worked it out together. :)

  248. Tina says:

    @Treasured: Oooooh I LIKE it! Torturing Tequila sexually sounds like SO much fun!

    @Tequila: oh dearest, I’ll hand you your safe word on a folded piece of paper when it’s time. How’s your Dutch? 😉

    @Jack: ooooh, was that an invite to Houston? :) I HAVE been wanting to check out the performing arts seen there! *wink wink nudge nudge*

    In all seriousness, there are a good amount of SDs on the blog that I am quite enamored with, and it has nothing to do with their money. Many are giving, and have helped me out in non-financial ways with nothing expected (or available to give) in return. So yes, I WOULD give attention to SDs that I find interesting regardless of their income; many can provide things that I need outside of money. I think what is missing is the viewpoint that this topic actually points out – not all SBs are looking for sugar in the form of money. For me, I have a goal regarding a business I would like to eventually have of my own, but I need a few things to happen in the meantime. And I want to own it on my own, so investors are a no-no, but a mentor to help me navigate unknown waters would mean more to me than a monthly allowance.

    And, taking my own turn at beating that poor, long dead horse – every arrangement is different; different strokes for different folks………

    My last statement for this post? I personally think Jack is an amazing, giving person, and he hasn’t offered me one bit of sugar.

  249. I LoveWestCoastGirl says:

    Is there any SB on this blog (Brandon can do survey on the SA site later:) who would be offended! by cash in the envelope . Let us say 1-2 K for 1-2 days meeting or 2-4 K for a week “vacation”.

    ?

    If allowances was not discussed before but you had clicked and had fun.

    ?

    (let us not to talk about high end and super generous SD, just a “regular / most common” SD/SB )

  250. Jack says:

    CalifSB writes:

    By the way Jack… you did say it:

    “Lady #4 is the software engineer who met me at my Nevada ranch. She made it crystal clear to me in our various conversations that money was of no interest to her (in fact, the concept of it embarrassed her) and that she was instead highly interested in me, not my money”

    yeah, “highly interested in me, not my money”…. wonder if you were a cashier at home depot she would have said the same…

    MY ANSWER: Recall that this lady is the one who refused all my attempts to sugar her up, so YES, I believe that she would have liked me even if I were a cashier at Home Depot. Having said that, I doubt a lot of cashiers at HD have an MD, PhD and a JD degree, and I doubt they have traveled the world, speak four languages, etc (the lady herself is foreign-born). And although the answer is YES in this case, this lady was quite unusual in this regard, as I have stated before, so I wouldn’t generalize based on her.

    Let me also highlight some “opinions” that seem to be getting attributed to me even though I never said them and don’t believe them:

    1. I have never stated or even suggested that an SD’s wealth or available budget should be IRRELEVANT to an SB. On the contrary, I have pointed out that an SD’s wealth is a definite plus because it enables activities and adventures that are not within the means of lower-income SD’s.

    2. I have never suggested that SB’s should prefer SD’s whose budget is “under $1000” or even close. My own limit is $3000–but that is on top of all expenses and any gifts I choose to give (bought a Macbook with Retina display for a friend’s daughter today). As I have pointed out ad nauseum, $3000/month tax free exceeds $50,000/year taxable, which EXCEEDS the median income of all working women in the US. So my $3000 limit plus expenses plus gifts would hardly put any SB in the poorhouse.

    And let me wager a bet than less than 5% of the SB’s on this site get $36,000/year in allowance. Sure, some may get $5000 here and $5000 there, but probably not even 8 months out of a year, if that.

    3. On the other hand, I have also never stated that there is anything wrong with an SB demanding more than $3000/month. All I said was that doing so may select for jetsetter, playboy, unreliable types–and may get an SB nothing at all most of the time (since most guys on this site do not have the option of offering more than $3000/month). If asking for more than $3000 has worked for any SB reading this, keep doin’ what you been doin’!

    4. I have never suggested that there aren’t plenty of SB’s who would be interested in hanging out with me (or some other 56-year-old) ONLY if I gave them more than $3000/month. In fact, I am sure there are some SB’s on this very blog who would fall into that category. Nor do I believe that the software engineer is typical–ie, I doubt that more than a few percent of the women on SA would be interested in me even if no sugar were involved at all. On the contrary, I believe that all things being equal, the more money a guy offers, the more attention he will get on this site.

    And there’s NOTHING wrong with that, but it ain’t my cup of tea. I think I bring a lot more to the table than my money, and I want a woman to hang out with me more for me than for my money. I don’t think that is an outrageous wish. In some cases, they won’t hang out with me because they need more than $3000 to compensate for things they don’t like about me (my age, looks, whatever) and in other (rarer) cases, they will hang out with me even without sugar.

    There’s no magic, no right or wrong. It’s a wide spectrum and I have chosen the $3000 cutoff, as apparently have other SD’s who post here.

    Jack

  251. JustATequilaSD says:

    @CaliSB
    “I’ll let Tequila come too if he takes his pants off for me”
    I keep a pair of breakaway stripper pants just for such occasions. I was making porn before you were born, and shaking my moneymaker is something I can do even in my sleep. I ain’t skeered. “Cali can come too if I take my pants off for her.” But I digress, I gotta calm down. Blogmates expecting an “8-way” rodeo already. Screw it, I’m gonna be innocent and not let my penis type out my comments anymore.**Riiiiiiight**

    @Jack
    In light of your long responses, to which I thoroughly agree, allow me to remind you of the following:
    you can explain it to people, but you can’t understand it for them.

  252. JustATequilaSD says:

    @RussianSB
    “you see what you Mojo has done again.Margaret Tetcher, naked in a cold shower !!!”
    Mrs.Thatcher would get bent over in that shower just like any other warm female body that wandered into my shower. RELEASE THE KRAKEN!!!

    @Treasured
    “leisure weekend…tie him up”
    I think Tina was right. Not leisure. You’d be “working” it…overtime and overdrive. And I saw that “gf cruelty party” porno you’re talking about. Just remember my safe word is “Nine times is enough for now.”

  253. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Tina
    “some information might be best kept silent since it would hurt the other person”
    Communication is the key. I’m sure that if the uncomfortable discussion becomes problematic, that they will let you know. Continue to work through the rough spots and disappointments (as they will come), and I’m sure everything will work out great. Good luck.

    @Madrista
    re: Marriage
    Though not quite as commercialized as Christmas, many people miss the point. I remember when I told my wife that marriage is nothing more than a piece of paper…at this point her brain stopped listening to the rest of the sentence and it got added into the list of things leading to divorce. Marriage is nothing more than a piece of paper, if you don’t honor the spirit of it. The same can be said for those that are not allowed to marry on paper, let no one steal your happiness.

  254. twiceshy says:

    I usually give cash in a nondescript, brown Manila envelope. I put some confetti inside the envelope for effect. This is handed over when I meet at airport, and is meant to be a simple reimbursement for any costs to get there (taxis….a burrito…whatever) and should be enough to cover a hotel room in case things go south. So basically, to make the SB independent for whatever period of time we supposed to be together. A warning , though. This should be discussed in some form upfront. There are some people that will feel offended if handed a manila envelope with money even as a reimbursement, so you really need to know the person you’re with. Just taking some money out in conversation at home/hotel room may be better depending. I am just silly and like the expression when they see the confetti 😛 .

    If there is an allowance involved, then the rest is PayPal.

    If gifts, we discuss when we go shopping, for what etc and work that into where we go.

    If the only arrangement was traveling expenses and the trip, then that’s done, but I still tend to always enquire or listen out during conversations if there are any hints.

    One thing I am very wary of, is handing over cash or money in public. I hate doing it, and it may be paranoia but I just think everyone is watching.

    I think there are many different kinds of arrangements, and SBs are very happy at different levels. There are those on this blog who need 10,000USD a month allowances, and I am sure those that would be happy with 1500USD or less and a trip. Well…maybe not on this blog. But they are out there! :)

    I think I’ve been lucky, or perhaps whomever actually comes out to meet me is of a particular mindset. So far they’ve mostly been first timers, and at least the time we have spent together has been really smooth and drama free and they claim, a lot of fun. No one’s had to pull for the emergency money or request an early trip home yet *fingers crossed*.

    Hopefully I can settle with a long-term relationship soon so there will be no more “first meets” :-)

  255. ContentSB says:

    @Midwest — I’ve been meaning to thank you for your Chicago suggestions!! We had an awesome time at Howlin’ at the Moon…it ended up being a block away from the hotel so it was perfect! We met some fantastic men from Australia who knew how to have a fun time :) I hope grad school is going well for you; good luck with finals!

  256. ContentSB says:

    @Frank — I don’t think it’s a highly unusual request, although perhaps a bit tacky. I’ve had first meets with a few pots who hand me something at the end of dinner to prove their sincerity without ever having asked for it. It seems like something you’d be likely to do on your own, so by asking for it it diminishes her “test.”

  257. Midwest SB says:

    To the topic…cash is always great! Just be a gentleman and put it in a card or be discreet. I have accepted PayPal to cover travel expenses and have also opened a sugar bank account at a place that was available in my area as well as his. This was convenient for me, but since I opened it online, he was always approached by the manager warning him about depositing large sums in an online account. I know they were watching out for him, but it created more attention than he preferred. Lesson here is to probably open the account in person. He doesn’t have to be on the account to make a deposit to it. He only needs the account number.

    James M. – E-mail came back undeliverable :(

    Jack – I’m not going to defend either argument, but there are men who admit they meet a woman who wouldn’t normally be available to them because it’s sugar (she may or may not like him just for who he is) and there are women here who date men they wouldn’t normally consider (married, physical traits, distance) yet, may or may not “like” him because it’s sugar. Sometimes, it is a business arrangement of sorts. It’s why we agree to leave family/ drama/ life at the doorstep and rock your world and it’s why you agree to helping with education, goals, etc. The blessing is that there is no judgment…there is an arrangement for everyone and everyone has a reason for choosing sugar.

  258. ContentSB says:

    Sex toy question!!! I had an interesting chat with my manager at work about ben-wa balls. She claims they’re the best thing ever….For those of you who have used them, are they really that awesome? I’m thinking about buying some…but only if I hear a few more rave reviews 😉

  259. frank says:

    Here is sorta an on topic post. I guess every body is away at the party.

    Contacted a pot sb who lives not far from me and asked her to lunch.

    She is ok with this but wants some sugar with lunch: she asks me this?

    Are you okay with providing a gesture of good faith when I arrive? Nothing big of course, just something to show that you really are a SD and not a time waster. No offence, it’s just I have had quite a few bad instances.

    I haven’t had any ask this before, if they had to make a long drive to see me, then I pay for gas, even b4 any one had a chance to ask.

  260. California SB says:

    By the way Jack… you did say it:

    “Lady #4 is the software engineer who met me at my Nevada ranch. She made it crystal clear to me in our various conversations that money was of no interest to her (in fact, the concept of it embarrassed her) and that she was instead highly interested in me, not my money”

    yeah, “highly interested in me, not my money”…. wonder if you were a cashier at home depot she would have said the same…

  261. California SB says:

    Jack: I will be very well… thanks for playing.

    Treasured: Quick before Guru deletes it: californiadreaming1 at ymail

  262. Jack says:

    I’m good, CalifSB,

    No need to do experiments, especially not ones involving assertions I never made.

    The beauty here (both on this blog and in our country) is that we each have a right to self-determination, to pick our own path, and reach our own destiny, whatever it may be.

    At no time have I been under the impression that I would change your mind–nor anyone else’s. I share my experiences, good and bad, and draw my own conclusions. If someone gets something out of what I write (as I think some have)–cool.

    If not, that’s totally fine.

    Be well, CalifSB.

    Jack

  263. Treasured says:

    Cali – do you mind swapping emails or Skype? :)

  264. California SB says:

    Jack.. also don’t forget to put the allowance budget to “less than a 1000”. Then come back here with the results to this scientific experiment to prove to us and to yourself, that all sugar babies will love you for who you are and not your money.

  265. California SB says:

    PS: Jack post a pic of you with an income of 35K and an occupation as cashier at home depot. Let’s see how many sugars will write back…

  266. Jessie says:

    To be on topic (which surprisingly few seem to care about), I usually go with cash (in a blank envelop) tucked surreptitiously in her purse or Chase Quickpay. It definitely leaves a trail but only one of you has to have a Chase account and you can send it to anyone just by using their phone number or email address.

    @PhoneGuy – I’m interested in how this works. I could go do some research but much prefer to pick your brain ;). Is it kinda or close to Paypal?

  267. California SB says:

    Jack dear… keep writing. It’s good therapy. Keep telling yourself SB babies like you for who you are and not your money. It will definitely make you feel better.

  268. Jack says:

    CalifSB says,

    “For me, sugar heaven is to become my own sugar. My job doesn’t pay well enough to support my terrible shopping habits. So, for now I have to put up with guys who think I like them for who they are. I should win an oscar for best sugar BS talk. They believe every crap I say. But I think they like to hear all that BS even though deep inside…. they know none of it’s true.”

    There are plenty of guys who have figured out your “best sugar BS” (as you put it) and as a consequence, never pursued anything with you. Blog SD’s–may I have a show of hands?

    Hence, contrary to your conclusion that you have fooled ALL of these guys, the fact may well be that you have at most fooled the ones who decided to hang out with you–who may well have been fools already.

    In other words, it may well be that your selection criteria select for fools, which is actually quite in keeping with the points I tried to make in my posts over the last couple of days.

    Fascinating way of reaching this same conclusion, though.

    Jack

  269. Treasured says:

    OMG! I just saw the most beautiful African-American girl ever.
    Profile NR 1130546

    Just how stunning she is?!

  270. Treasured says:

    By the way… Am I the only one who is extremely curious about what other bloggers look like?

    All the sex jokes aside, we are practically family 😀 Since after what was told on the blog, either of us would want to be sugary involved with each other 😀

    (I certainly hope that my admirers will never find out this blog 😀 )

  271. RussianSB says:

    I am the worst actress ever – my thoughts written upon my face.

  272. RussianSB says:

    @Treasured… Jack, Tequila, Tina and Russian &Co – in one Jacuzzi. Oh, dear, you will be safe there, it is not gang , it is blah-blah-blah party !

  273. Treasured says:

    @For me, sugar heaven is to become my own sugar. My job doesn’t pay well enough to support my terrible shopping habits. So, for now I have to put up with guys who think I like them for who they are. I should win an oscar for best sugar BS talk. They believe every crap I say.

    You just said exactly what I have been thinking/doing.
    My best gay friend is joking, that I should receive an Oscar as a life-long achievement as a best actress.

    “But I think they like to hear all that BS even though deep inside…. they know none of it’s true.” – I actually DO believe that they believe in all that. I really do. Sex sells, but love sells much better.
    And, it is human nature, no matter what, always to try an believe in best.

    And, actually, even me, even after all the stuff I had to go through with this sugar dating, even I still believe, that one day (probably will end up with a broken heart) I will find love. And someone who genuinely cares.
    Just because I want to believe. It would have to be pretty special though… Or, a damn good liar 😉

  274. RussianSB says:

    Hungry SD is nasty SD !

  275. northernsd says:

    cash for small amounts or otherwise
    paypal work for me.

  276. RussianSB says:

    Jack, I remember ”The Adams family” – when Gomez Adams say : ”Only a fool will defend himself in the court. So, I am that fool !” LOL :)
    I also have some experience in bedfight with sharks, if make a dinner before, maybe they not bite you !

  277. California SB says:

    Treasured: “First forum gang bang!!!”

    Now we’re talking… 😛

  278. California SB says:

    Russian: @GURU(from previous blog) What is Sugar Baby Heaven

    For me, sugar heaven is to become my own sugar. My job doesn’t pay well enough to support my terrible shopping habits. So, for now I have to put up with guys who think I like them for who they are. I should win an oscar for best sugar BS talk. They believe every crap I say. But I think they like to hear all that BS even though deep inside…. they know none of it’s true.

  279. Treasured says:

    Jack, you simply can’t do that 😀 There is sexually starved woman here, who needs to concentrate on studies 😀

  280. Treasured says:

    First forum gang bang!!! YAY!

    I know I have a wild imagination, but I do need something do distract me from my biochemistry 😀

  281. Jack says:

    RussianSB,

    Actually, personality-wise, two of the five would have been great, but both too far for a longterm relationship given my busy schedule and 50% custody of my girls, but I might well again see the software engineer (interesting side-note: After my working on her a while, she finally decided to accept some sugar today–I bought her daughter a Macbook with Retina display).

    And I like your plan to let Tequila play with the girls while I have you all to myself. And having both scuba-dived with sharks (an amazing experience) and done battle with them in the courtroom, I think I’ll know what to do with you, RussianSB.

    On the other hand, Tina is only a short distance up the road from Houston, so who knows, maybe she’ll bring Tee-Tee (Treasured/Tequila) and the rest of the gang (hm . . gang, you say?) and we’ll all have fun in the jacuzzi.

    Jack

  282. RussianSB says:

    To cheat+be cheated+wake up in your own bed !

  283. RussianSB says:

    @Phoneguy, here is third option – the best solution – to become a ”hot Kelly”

  284. RussianSB says:

    @Jack :)
    ”Keep in mind that when sex is the primary objective, it is much easier to find a “fit” because those parts are already “made” to “fit.” ”
    Indeed , those parts are already made to fit ! Like puzzles :) :) :)

  285. Phoneguy says:

    But we have choise, girls ! To be wive(my English improove ,you see!) with cheating husband or to be mistress with someone cheating husband
    I pray these aren’t the only two options in this world. 😉

    To be on topic (which surprisingly few seem to care about), I usually go with cash (in a blank envelop) tucked surreptitiously in her purse or Chase Quickpay. It definitely leaves a trail but only one of you has to have a Chase account and you can send it to anyone just by using their phone number or email address.

  286. RussianSB says:

    You play with Tequila, girls, and I will be white shark in Jack jacuzziiiii. Bubles !

  287. Treasured says:

    @Tina – Nooo 😀 I have aplan. Since there will be 3 of us, we will tie him up and do all sorts of naughty things to each other to teach him a lesson 😀

    hehehehehehehe

  288. RussianSB says:

    Oh, Jack, I always have modest rider for first date .
    So your personality doesn’t fit in this relationship, or all those nice ladies (exept one) don’t fit ?? Anyway, I will not be ”hot Kelly” for you, but I can be your patient still ?

  289. Jack says:

    RussianSB,

    I promise thatn either my house nor my jacuzzi are cursed–I had the Ghostbusters program check out everything and they have declared my humble abode as devoid of all supernatural effects.

    the truth of the matter is that I love meeting and interacting with people–that’s why I chose to be an ER doc and not a pathologist–and what better way to meet women than hosting them as a guest of mine? Regardless of the outcome, I enjoyed these 5 weekends a lot (with one exception, but even that one wasn’t the end of the world) and so did they, and I consider these ladies to be my friends.

    What’s not to like about such an outcome?

    As I stated clearly in my profile, what I really want to end up with is a long-term monogamous relationship, BUT I also stated in my profile that until I find the right connection, I am happy to play the field, and that’s what I’ve been doing with my weekend meets and dates. Keep in mind that when sex is the primary objective, it is much easier to find a “fit” because those parts are already “made” to “fit.” If sex was my primary objective, then I would have already found my “fit” but while sex is very important to me (I love the rodeo, too! LOL) it isn’t enough.

    And “fitting” personalities for an LTR is much harder than fitting the sexual parts, isn’t it?

    But I’m not complaining in the least and consider my weekend meets so far to have been great fun all around. If everybody’s happy, it seems to me this approach is fine.

    And RussianSB, as to you and me–I’m just not sure that what I’d be willing to offer would match well to what you would expect. In some of your posts, I get the sense that a substantial amount of sugar would be needed to induce you to fly almost half-way around the world to see me, and in others, I get the sense you’d enjoy the adventure even if minimal sugar were involved (other than all expenses paid, of course). I’m not sure which of those two reads is the more accurate one.

    Jack

  290. California SB says:

    Treasured: “my dream of you being my Sugar Momma”

    You got it, I’ll send my gulf stream Jet to pick you up, bring Russian SB too. I’ll let Tequila come too if he takes his pants off for me. I did buy a PB ticket so if you hear about someone from Los Angeles area winning…. watch out! 😛

  291. RussianSB says:

    You need sex and I need Fender Stratocaster !

    Oooh Black Betty… pampambatam
    Oooh Black Betty….

  292. Tina says:

    @Treasured: I have this sneaking suspicion that leisure will be the LAST thing on the agenda if it’s up to Tequila 😉

  293. Treasured says:

    Ladies, since apparently I participate too, I suggest Tequila starts being responsible for his actions, and organises a leisure weekend for all of us 😀

    I am in, and damn, I need sex 😀

    hehehehe

  294. RussianSB says:

    @WASD… I forget, what I can bring to your table ?

  295. RussianSB says:

    @VASD, right you are ! Envelopes is more popular and international. I always was curious, boys, where you get all theese envelopes without any mark(print) on it ???

    Oh, VASD, I need that Fender Stratocaster… Samsung Galaxy Note, dosen of panties, Dead Horse and Tamales, PLEASE. All in one basket !

  296. Tina says:

    @VASD: and here I thought your post was going to be all on topic and sterile 😉

  297. RussianSB says:

    @Tequila… you see what you Mojo has done again.
    Margaret Tetcher, naked in a cold shower !!!

  298. VASD says:

    Most of my ladies have preferred a regular cash flow–usually given int the form of an envelope on the sideboard (a few blogs back, there was some distaste expressed for this by some SBs). I’ve had a couple who were tetchy about a monetary transaction, but, hey, I need a new laptop, could you pick me out a nice guitar, I REALLY like that new iphone.
    And a couple were quite happy to just be paid by the inch…

  299. RussianSB says:

    Married blogsters will agree with me, yeah baby :)

  300. RussianSB says:

    Honest/dishonest/moneyst/marriage/dead horse/blah-blah-blah/married dead horse etc.

    I write provocative posts – don’t eat that peope ! I ALWAYS not serious !
    When we are young, hot and not married let’s have fun. Marriage BS we will have plenty in future. Like Mc’Donalds teach us : ”Eat fast – die young!”

  301. Tina says:

    @Tequila: I think we’d all win in that case 😉

  302. RussianSB says:

    @Tequila, you will be surprised, but Margarita is a Russian name (Rita) ! I have a friend Margarita ! BINGO

  303. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Tina
    A 4-way? Ok, you win. I officially felt the temperature change in here. Or is anyone else getting warm?

  304. Tina says:

    Butter makes it bettah!

  305. Tina says:

    @Tequila: Well, I MIGHT be open to sharing you with RussianSB or Treasured, but only if I get a turn first and at the same time! 😉

  306. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Tina
    mmm…you covered in butter…wearing a lil lobster costume…wow, I didn’t even know I was this kinky

  307. Madridista says:

    “Fiesta then Siesta” LOL!

    @JATSD, you are so funny :)

  308. Tina says:

    sliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiip slip and slide! <—- commercial jingle that just popped in my head

  309. Tina says:

    @Tequila: sorry dear, but I don’t share well…….might have to butter me up first 😉

  310. RussianSB says:

    Congratulations, Frank ! Don’t reward bad behaivoir. I never reward bad behaivoir, no matter how many $$$$$ boy have – in time it is going to grow in a huge BS , so better stop in the begining. I love that pattern : I respect you, you respect me,or , at least , pretend my dear.
    And I always pick up SD-phone !

  311. Madridista says:

    @RussianSB, it has only been one week today! I’ll start my physical therapy this weekend if all continues the way it is now and there are no new swelling. On my other leg, I stretched out a different muscle and have a night splint that I have to wear, but it’s healing much faster and the pain is gone there. But with a hamstring, they told me it’ll take about 3-4 weeks for me to be at my normal self. The first week is the hardest since you’re only supposed to rest and be immobile.

    @Frank, good for you for moving on from that SB. The whole discussion of honesty/dishonesty/cheating wasn’t directly about sugar relationships, but how sugar relationships made us view men in general. With different experiences, in and out of sugar bowl, everyone has a different perspective of men. Someone also mentioned life after sugar, so that’s where marriage topic cropped up.

    I think in sugar I’ve had better experiences than in non-sugar dating. Both made me ambivalent about marriage though. I’m tempted to say that my SD was right and just say no to marriage period, but it’s easier for him to say that than for most people, especially if one wants a family and companionship for their twilight years. While I’m still in sugar bowl, it doesn’t seem important, but something to think about since I can’t be a SB forever.

  312. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Tina
    I don’t know this Margarita sb you speak of but of course you can bring a friend. A round of Tequila for the whole bar! (Only on ladies nite ofc.)

  313. Tina says:

    ……….and now the tune “Jingle Bells” and the need to watch the movie “Jingle all the Way” are obsessions for the moment……….

  314. Tina says:

    Hmmmmm, odd I’m having a sudden and strange craving for a margarita with some strong Tequila………..I wonder why…………

  315. JustATequilaSD says:

    @Tina
    don’t worry, those bells will get jingled the right way…your lil elf outfit there will get plenty of Santa sex play

  316. Tina says:

    @Tequila: just be careful where that hot sauce lands sir! I have some sensitive areas that are supposed to tingle, just NOT from condiments! :)

  317. JustATequilaSD says:

    @CaliSB

    “Chuck E Cheese tickets”
    Just enough to get you a big teddy bear. Then I’m cutting you off.

    @RussianSB and @CaliSB
    “want have fun all the time , 24 hours non-stop”
    Oh crap, that sounds like me :( and apparently that’s why I want to take Cali to ChuckECheese since I act like her father

    @Tina
    covered in Tamales lying on a table, just add hot sauce and Tequila and it’ll be time for “Fiesta then Siesta”

  318. Anon says:

    I’m a new SB, unknown to the sugar world. I’ve emailed loads of potential SDs, but that’s all it’s been… and the ‘first meet’ sounds really scary to me..! Any tips, or advice would be GREATLY appreciated.

  319. Tina says:

    Dishonesty is not exclusive to IRL or sugar or any non-romantic relationship for that matter. Unfortunately people try to lie to get what they want, or lie to cover up something they are ashamed of. Or lie just to see if they get caught. Who knows?

    I have actually had issues with being TOO honest; I think that relationships need a happy medium in divulging information that, if hidden, would damage it, or deciding that some information might be best kept silent since it would hurt the other person. I try not to do anything that would hurt someone if they find out. I’ve given information to someone special that resulted in an uncomfortable discussion, but we worked through it. I’m not saying that he’s happy about it, but it’s resolved. :)

  320. frank says:

    Oh my, I just had my first therapy appointment, back on the pills again.

    Are you re sb’s saying men are dishonest in the sugar relationship? I have had sb be dishonest too, its to be expected I guess when there is no long term repercussions. I have had sb’s disappear with their first months allowance never to be seen again, had another make up such blatant lies to get more money that it made me laugh rather than get mad, and of course had sb stand me up for no good reason.

    So maybe sugar is making me less umm, not less honest, but less honorable. If there are no checks on your behavior other than your ethics, then its hard not to sink to the lowest common denominator.

    If I were in a dating situation, I would have given my sb another chance, but since she was sugar, its so easy to let her go and move on to the next.

  321. Janine says:

    I think sugar dating has changed my perception of men for the better. In traditional dating I got played hard. I’m an emotional person and I like to give, but I’m also a exotic looking with big boobs, so for many guys I was just a conquest. Plus most of the men in my family were dogs, so I hated guys. I only thing I got out of traditional dating was a broken heart, hard feelings and a wall of fire surrounding a moat that protected my feelings.

    As soon a I realized the kind of guy who wanted me (older, wealthy, white men) I started to date them more, and BAM, now I love men again. Men in the sugar world want my companionship (and I want theirs), but what makes it good for me is that everything is discussed up front and with honesty. I haven’t been lied to and that means a lot to me.

    If he knows there’s a time he can’t be in contact he will tell me. I don’t have to sit around wondering why he hasn’t returned my calls or emails. He won’t play games and he’s honest about what (and who) he’s doing. This honesty means so much to me because I’ve never had it before. That and he’s willing to help me out when I need it!

    Things are looking up in terms of my relationships with men. I have sugar dating to thank. I don’t want to leave the sugar bowl and have only my emotions to gain or lose like in regular dating. My ideal situation is to move up the ladder at work AND, if it’s meant to be, marry someone in the sugar bowl and be like the Playboy couple. But that’s so far in the future I can’t believe I typed it. OMG, I thought about marriage…

  322. RussianSB says:

    And don’t say to me, Jack, that location will be problem in our case ! 12 hours flight only… but you can buy me big white boat tickets, of course :)

  323. RussianSB says:

    @GURU, after reading in your GURU blog my humble chances (0,0000031415%) to find a decent SD, I quit Sugar life and burn my profile, deside consentrate on my career !!! :)

  324. RussianSB says:

    @Jack, you know I love to play ”doctor” games with you, but I feel confused, I think that your house in Huston cursed – ladies coming and going home and no Sugar happy-ending ! Let’s try jacuzzi in Costa-Rica !

  325. RussianSB says:

    @Madridista, dear, for how long you are locked at home now ? Two weeks ?
    ”Not to use a sports analogy, but you’re neither in the game nor out, so do you warm up or sit in the stands?” LOL
    But we have choise, girls ! To be wive(my English improove ,you see!) with cheating husband or to be mistress with someone cheating husband :) :) :)

  326. Tina says:

    @Guru: you may not cause the mayhem, but you stir the pot with your magic stick! 😉 And FYI – naked does NOT go well when frying anything or cooking bacon. Just sayin’…….*pop pop pop* OUCH!

  327. Madridista says:

    Haha, same here, Cali! I was joking with my dad about it and he said whoever wins will have to move and change their name because all kinds of people will come out of the woodwork pestering you.

  328. Treasured says:

    @Cali – here goes my dream of you being my Sugar Momma 😀

    • SD Guru says:

      @Russian SB
      “We are perverts , and I also like 40 – 50 y.o. SDs. And I use them for sex. Sugar just an exuse for good girl to behave bad”

      Feel free to use me for sex. No excuse needed! 😛

      Between Russian SB and all the “no interest in sugar” SB’s Jack is going send to me, I think I can plan a “sugar retirement”! :mrgreen:

      @Tina
      “And if Guru was the cause of my mayhem yesterday, then apparently I need to get to baking and delivering goodies! Naked too!”

      Me causing mayhem? You must have me confused with someone else! Naked goes well with everything… naked sushi, naked tamale, naked cookies…

  329. California SB says:

    The real question here is…. what would you do if you win the half a billion powerball tonight? I know if I do, you won’t ever hear from me again…. Ha!

  330. Treasured says:

    @Jack – it hasn’t soured me on men. i stil LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE men!! 😀
    I just don’t trust them 😀

  331. Jack says:

    RussianSB,

    I hold my FREE “SB-pervert-curing” classes in my jacuzzi every Tuesday, and I promise either a complete cure or your money back.

    Treasured, I am so sorry the sugar world has soured you on men and maybe more. Focus on your medical studies (cell biology is fascinating, with stem cell cures truly the wave of the future) and you’ll make your own sugar soon enough!

    Jack

  332. Lady Vuitton says:

    HI All

    Off to New York for the day……

    Keep blogging

    x

  333. Madridista says:

    I wouldn’t say sugar relationships have corrupted my view of men and can’t say one shouldn’t trust all men (I don’t like generalizations). It’s very hard to say something like that just because of certain personal experiences. I trust the closest men in my life, but I’m not naive or trusting like that with everyone. Even my Russian girl friends, who moan and complain about Russian men, still marry Russian men (well, except one, but that’s because she moved to Holland)! Most haven’t divorced yet, are starting families and are quite happy — maybe they have some good karma points or just got lucky?

    Sugar did though make me ambivalent about marriage. My SD never married and adamant about never wanting to, which is fine by me. For myself, some days I say I never want to and other days I’m thinking that with a right man it could be a possibility. This could be just injuries and possible flu talking, but it’s really lonely being by yourself in sickness. I never noticed that when I went to work, sugar dates, and all kinds of events. So maybe that’s why some people get and stay married: companionship, even when you’re sick and look like hell. Some guys from the club academy came to see me yesterday before they had to head to go to pre-game warm ups (I couldn’t attend the match) and it was so amazing to have living, breathing company. Yet, even for them I had to do my hair and make-up. When you’re married eventually someone will see you at your worst and that terrifies me because I’d never want any man to see me how I look now: pallid, sickly complexion, limp dull hair, and dressed in house pants that make me look fat. I know it’s shallow, but I wouldn’t want to be around any male company like that and with marriage can’t escape that. Yet being by yourself all day long is torture. It’s tea time and I’m all by my lonesome. At least with a husband, there’d be somebody to drink tea with me. All I have is a tv now and it’s all last weekend’s election results in Catalonia and crap economy and football politics.

    On the other hand, I’ve been with few married SDs and I’d hate to be their wive. At least when someone leaves you, your status is clear. Being married in name only would suck. Not to use a sports analogy, but you’re neither in the game nor out, so do you warm up or sit in the stands? That to me would be worse that a man simply walking out on me. My Latvian politician was the worst of that example. His wive looked so much like me, she could have been my mother/aunt. Why be married if a man will look for a younger model even though his original is still wonderful. I saw him last year on a cover of a gossip mag holding his press sec hands across a table and she also closely resembles basic looks of the wife and me. Is that the fate of all wives to see a husband with a woman (sugar baby or not) who looks like a younger version of them?

    That’s mainly why I’m so ambivalent: companionship and building a family would be wonderful on one hand. On the other, being cheated on with a younger version of yourself, no matter how accomplished and beautiful you are. Part of me wants marriage and kids and part of me is screaming not to buy into this. I see same ambivalence with athletes I work with. Some are way better since they’ve married and happy with their new families and some still run around with anything that bats their eyelashes at them regardless of their relationship status. I’d hate to be the wife or girlfriend, even if I don’t know about it. Even an assistant manager got it into his head that I’m interested in him and he’s married and I’m not interested in being a mistress for the sake of just being one, so he needs to aim his little head at another target.

    To answer the question of what to do after sugar, as Treasured, I don’t plan on doing it long. I’m officially going to get my last degree in May (though I’m only writing a thesis and don’t have any classes) and am working on a novel. Once I can make living as an author then I’ll give up sugar. SM thing is not for me.
    Sorry for such a long post. This is what happens when I’m starved for human company :)

  334. Tina says:

    @RussianSB: I’ll hang ten on the white wave! YEEEEEHAW! :)

  335. RussianSB says:

    It was ”black” wave, Tina, now ”white” wave starts , you see, SA write new blog specially for you ! You are very important person.

  336. Tina says:

    @RussianSB: my dog was actually quite good – he wasn’t the one that broke the fence, played nicely, and came when I called him. And body tamales aren’t as sexy as they sound…..hot sauce gets sticky and can make parts tingle in a not-so-good way! :)

    And if Guru was the cause of my mayhem yesterday, then apparently I need to get to baking and delivering goodies! Naked too! 😉

    @Content: btw, you remember who the troll was, you sent me an e-mail where we both had the same idea……….

  337. Goldfish says:

    Sugar relationships haven’t really corrupted my view of men. I think most are dogs anyways. I haven’t treated men very well either…so I can’t really put the blame on anyone.

    But as others have said, I won’t give up a sugar relationship if a traditional one can’t bring the same cards or more to the table.
    Besides, I’m really having too much fun to slow down with any man. Maybe the right one will come along, but until then I’m going to keep playing.

  338. RussianSB says:

    @Tina… Karma – GURU must be responsible for Karma tricks and Dao-philosofy, because he is GURU ! Who we are without man ? When he come into our life ? Discipline our dogs and keeps us worm at night ? Tamales – running suckers ! Now you are body-tamales (like body-sushi) Tina :)

  339. RussianSB says:

    @Tresured – to trust a man = to decieve yourself. Doesn’t matter with sugar or not !
    For example marriage – what is our worse dreams about ? He will cheat ? He will cheat with your sister, or close friend ? He will leave you with new-born baby when you are 43 and have no job ? (every situation and some more my friends went trough).
    Now, run theese situation trough Sugar marriage and Non-Sugar marriage ?
    Sugar make no big difference, but still make the difference :)

  340. Tina says:

    @RussianSB: I’m here, I’m here! Yesterday Karma kicked me in the butt, so it was best that I enter my hobbit hole (bringing along someone special, of course) and stay there, warm snug and safe for a day. After a crappy week at work, ending it with burning popcorn (which I caught ten kinds of teasing hell for at work), dumping lotion on myself and the floor, flinging my dinner all over me (tamales with hot sauce!), having a neighbors dog break our fence and my dog deciding to go play with said “new dog” in the dark and at 45 degrees F, I think I’m done for the year regarding embarrassing/difficult moments. Luckily I was able to use my electric blanket without electrocuting any of the good parts.

    *Sigh* Enough of yesterday, now to get on with my first day off from work! :)

  341. California SB says:

    Treasured: “I lost the ability to trust men…

    And I lost the ability to use credit cards. LOL

  342. Treasured says:

    @Russian – Sugar dating isn’t bad. It isn’t good either. It is just not for everybody.
    I think, in a way, it corrupted me. To be honest, It is difficult for me even to consider to date someone who can’t give me the lifestyle I am used to.
    Yet at the same time I lost the ability to trust men.
    So, I made a decision to slow down considerably in my sugar dating. I keep a couple of old friends, but am not planning on meeting anyone new (unless he is AMAZING).
    I want to get out before it is too late :)

  343. RussianSB says:

    And ”old sharks” use perfumes I gave them for X-mass – to answer your next question. And to the point of blog topic – I am not superstitious, I accept sugar in all forms of existing.

  344. RussianSB says:

    I hope I will be ”hot Kelly” and Sugar Mamma for cute girl , because young boys I don’t like, only ”old sharks” can keep me satysfied. Young boys bodies smell like milk – tasty but not sexy :)

  345. RussianSB says:

    Nancy, again, we are perverts with you, to enjoy sugar lifestyle… need a therapy, Jack, help us, cure us !

  346. RussianSB says:

    ”For ME – after I get through my studies – NEVER EVER have the need to go back to the Sugar dating.”
    That MUST be on SA home page written in big letters !

    For boys and for girls ! BOTH

    ”Leave the hope, anyone, who dare ENTER here”

  347. Treasured says:

    @GURU(from previous blog)
    What is Sugar Baby Heaven – become sugar Mamma ?

    For ME – after I get through my studies – NEVER EVER have the need to go back to the Sugar dating.

  348. RussianSB says:

    @GURU(from previous blog)
    What is Sugar Baby Heaven – become sugar Mamma ?
    They know (Nancy and Russian) there is life after sugar and have made plans for it !
    Do you, personally, believe in life after sugar, GURU ? I do !

    Actually I am not see big difference between sugar dating and traditional dating. I doing absolutely the same ( my SDs was mostly separated with wifes, they introduce me to their friends, parents, kids ). I know how to be descreet and play secret agent, but almost nobody ask that from me. And, yes, it was Sugar Arrengement not GF/BF thing. But it looks to other people like traditional dating.

  349. NancySB/LA says:

    Lol…!
    Cash

  350. RussianSB says:

    Tinaaaa, it is for you !!! Come back !

  351. California SB says:

    Cold hard cash, sometimes gold bars, or chuckie cheese tickets.

  352. Angela says:

    All personalities and perspectives are welcome in the blog, while personal attacks and name calling are not. It’s inevitable that there will be disagreements but let’s handle it as mature adults with class to keep the dialog constructive and respectful. Please refer to the “Blog Etiquette” for more details. For the newbies, please take a look at the “Sugar Daddy Dating Tips” section on the right for a list of commonly discussed topics and the “SD and SB Blog List” section to see the perspective of other sugars. Now comment away and let’s enjoy the blog!!

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