9 years ago
Sugar Family Roll Call

9 years ago
Sugar Family Roll Call

The Sugar Daddy Blog:

“Give me your married, your single, your curious masses yearning for mutually beneficial relationships” -engraved on the statue of sugarty.

With the recent spike in traffic following the New York Times article about SeekingArrangement, many have noticed the site is moving  a little slower than usual. Luckily, SA has been hard at work on the redesign and redevelopment of the site! The new SA will be faster, have better functionality, and will stay true to the clean, simple, clear message of ‘Seeking Arrangement’.

For all those new to the site and the blog, do feel free to introduce yourselves!

“I’m new to the blog but not to SA. I think the blog is brilliant and even though I’ve been a member for some time it has enlightened me ALOT! Loads of useful info and loads of laughs! Everyone here has a great sense of humour! I love it!”*London Lady*

What to call a flaky SD?

“I was reading an article about Puff Daddy or P.diddy today and thought about a new word to describe the sugars that dissapear. We can call the pot’s that dissapear “POOF Daddy’s!” lol”OCSugarBaby

Are you noticing more Sugar Daddies? Sugar Babies?

Have you ever ran into a Poof Daddy? How do you handle a sugar flake?

What new features do you want to see most on SA? Better searches? Better mailbox? Instant messaging?


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795 Responses to “Sugar Family Roll Call”

  1. Daydream says:

    Hi everybody

    I’m Vanity/Daydream. I am new to the blog and the site. I just wanted to say hi and introduce myself. 😀

  2. CARTIER says:

    i like wild and discreet big spending sugar daddies!

    muah!

  3. Johnny likes fillipino dating says:

    You have a nice blog. I’ve added it to my faves.

  4. Bad Brad says:

    Hi all. I am new to the site and have been kind of overwhelmed. In an effort to begin I contacted several SBs and nearly all answered, go figure. I realize I made a mistake thinking response would be slow and now I have too many to handle. I hate to tell them what I have done but I cannot go silent after making the first move… help? (wow, what a nice problem). Bradley

  5. Kat says:

    Hi everyone!
    New as well to the site – but really pleased to see all the friendly (virtual) faces!
    I was wondering if anyone has had experience with lesbian sugar moms?
    Sugar moms are a minority already, but as a female sugar baby looking for a sugar mom, I feel like chances are extra slim.
    Would love some input! Thanks all, hope everyone is enjoying the gorgeous spring.
    K

  6. firefighter486014031 says:

    Im noticing a lot more people on this site which is great…. but still very few Sugar Moms !!! I guess its kinda a small population? Maybe i am wrong, is anyone else receiving some outstandind results??

  7. raymond says:

    I wish you all luck on your hunt for happiness I have not had one email since I have been on this site so I will pray that your doing better

  8. Karen says:

    So i am new to this site nut not the SD/SB relationship. I had a man he was 72 years old. It was fine until his ex SB was back int he picture with a bunch of alcoholic drama lol! I left it alone after that. I am looking for just one! It seems harder though because i am 36 years old and not an LA barbie lol. Being from NY I seem to have a very blunt way of putting things and cannot lie if there is no attraction. That is a must for me. It could be physical, mental whatever but it has to be there. I am experiencing an influx of fakers though. I am tired of getting the question “What are you looking for” lol my profile is VERY informative lol. Anyhoo hello to all and i am hoping to find my SD here soon!

  9. DC says:

    Hi sugars-

    Heard from my pot SD today and that made my day. Was afraid I lost him. These relationships are so delicate aren’t they.

    Anyway next week, if we meet, will be out first time together and I am so curious as to how it will go. I hope I don’t screw it up and hope he likes me. Do most of you talk details on the first date or do you keep it light? We have not discussed my needs or his at all yet and I’m wondering when to bring it up.

    I bought something sexy to wear in anticipation. Can’t wait.

    Hope all of you have a wonderful weekend!

  10. Sugarbabytoday says:

    wow I have been on this blog for a month or so now and I am always still finding great advice y’all are awesome I hope every one had a great friday and your Friday night gets better my SD wanted to meet up with me this weekend but the all the charity org events this weekend and my volunteer work and of course my downs uncle I just couldn’t do it… I hope you all have a great time out with your pot. sd and your steady sd’s as well. i will try to catch up with every one sometime this weekend though. take care you all be safe!

  11. NYC SB says:

    Hi all I am kind of new to the blog but not to the site 😀

    Are you noticing more sugar daddies? Sugar babies?

    I’m definitely noticing more SD’s…. and dare I say? Real ones!! I had a meeting with one yesterday and he was wonderful. Hope I hear back from him (he did ask if he could call me again and I said yes) …

    Have you ever ran into a Poof Daddy? How do you handle a sugar flake?

    The first guy I met on SA is a poof daddy… he claimed to be such a high roller and what not and moved a bit fast offering me an allowance on the first date (I declined as I wanted to get to know him better before getting into a 20k a month arrangement!) and then he disappeared… my friend ended up meeting him as well and he pulled the same thing… best way to deal is to move on to the next one!!!

    What new features do you want to see most on SA? Better searches? Better mailbox? Instant messaging?

    Instant messaging will be good

  12. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Wait where did I write that I jumped in the pool? Gail your scaring me are you physic? I did jump in the pool lol and I was without apparel. Before you ask my pool is all fenced and and very private. kids were at school.

    The first time I jumped in the pool I was fully clothed and did it to make the boys laugh. Then they decided it would be funny to throw mom in. I really need to stop ending up in the pool. I am going to get pneumonia!

  13. NC Gent says:

    oops thought I read beagle doh! Still sounds great – looking forward to seeing the pics.

  14. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Ah yes, the puppy. I am picking him up today from the airport as he is flying in this evening :) I will share pictures once I have them…he’s a 10 week old maltese and I named him Romeo cuz understandably he’s a lover :)

  15. NC Gent says:

    heya Nico — a beagle puppy! awww I so want one — might have to visit u so I can play with it without having to train it lol I am sooo jazzed u found a great SD — I knew you would :)

    Hiya Gail — hope you are doing well and thanks for your kind words. My sugar world is a bit of a mess right now… I had dinner with my first SB last week — we hadn’t seen each other for about 1.5 years…. talked about getting back together… in the meantime, Ms Green Energy is coming along really well – she is such a sweetie and we have real conversations now :) I am having lunch Thursday with Ms. Green — hopefully I will have things resolved with first SB by then…. so I’ve managed to weave this tangled web :)

  16. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Hi again,
    Something went wrong.
    I meant to continue with:
    How you can think that an SD might be snared into marriage in such a silly way is beyond me.
    But, I cannot blame you for trying.
    Then there was another question earlier on about an SD that was invited to come to Kiev (Ukraine) by a young lady.
    The advice is very simple. If you wish to have your throat slit, accept the invitation.
    The world out there is so dark and dangerous !
    You do not speak the language at all. Have a look at the website Ukraine Scammers. It is a kind of household industry there, scamming.
    You will find over 5000 profiles of scammers. Bet your SB is among them.
    I recognised five of them here on SA.
    Life is funny this way.
    HenriLouis

  17. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Hi AsianSB,
    I have the same problem.
    The site moves very slowly for one reason or another.
    I think it is no so much the posting that slows it down, but the thousands of members lurking and trying to enter the blog, just to read the comments.
    Members placing posts regularly are not more than thirty.
    So this cannot be the problem for slow traffic.
    By the way I looked again at the profile of the SB that I dubbed WEDDINGBELLS, you know the one that tried to rob TesteroneHenri of his happy life as single with that great body and freckles.
    It says: Profile unavailable.
    This made me laugh loudly.
    How

  18. AsianSB says:

    Thanks Gail for the welcome:). I am happy to know the sugar family is there for support.

    A puppy always calls for a Kodak moment, heh.

    I was wondering what does SW stand for? Is that another forum or website where, the sugar family communicates? And is there an easier way to post on this blog other than waiting for all the responses to load then wait for the respond box to show up?

  19. Gail says:

    Nico……
    A puppy!!!! Awww….now don’t laugh…but there is something about a puppy licking my face that makes me think of a Kodak moment. Okay Nico, we need a picture of that too on SW…(smile)

  20. Gail says:

    Good Morning Everyone New,Vibrant and Full of Sugar!!!

    It’s Friday morning…and it’s raining…but thats not gonna spoil my day.
    I plan to do everything inside : ) Too bad I am alone this weekend….lol

    Suthurn…insulin? I know you will overindulge and probably overdose on your OC Sugar…lol

    OC….dripping sweet weekend for you? lol….

    Sweetnothings and Asian SB…I wish the both of you well. Take your time with your experiences..Enjoy the good ones and learn from the bad ones: )
    Your sugar family is here to support you thru everything. We welcome you with open arms!!!

    NC…physical attraction…who wouldn’t be attracted to you : ) Physical attaction is nice…I like the beauty of a persons heart and mind…and for me thats good enough. Need an update on your SBabies…what’s been going on?

    Henri is healthy from head to toe!!!!Yaaaah!!!

    Nico!!! Congratulations again and again…I am happy you have a wonderful SD in your life. Have you worn your new dress yet…you need to post pictures on SW soon: )

    Sweetred…stop jumping in the pool : ) No wonder your boys threw you in….lol

    It’s time for coffee now…starting my day late….lurk mode again…

  21. DC says:

    Good morning everyone and welcome sweetnothings. I am new here myself. The only advice I would give you is to never do anything you are uncomfortable doing and never let anyone pressure you into having sex. I was young once too and had sex on the first date with many guys because I was afraid if I said no they wouldn’t like me. I know this is different and there is a lot more at stake here, but still, be true to yourself. I think most of the real sugar daddies here, even if their eventual goal is to get laid, will respect you more if you say no until the time is right.

    Good luck

  22. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Hello SE and congrats on the travel plans!! My man couldn’t join me this last weekend so he sent a ‘puppy’ in his place. He knew I had been shopping and the one I had been ‘eyeballing’ so, instead of being here he is sending my new puppy :) I will get to see him next weekend though so, all’s good.

    Enjoy your trip (that goes out to you BOTH)!!

    HI NC *HUGS*

  23. LOL_A says:

    SuthrnExec I wouldn’t post his profile N° unless what he has done wasn’t really serious. I had to get my parents involved to get me out of there. Long story.
    Anyway, have you heard of psychological abuse. It is against the law.
    I reported him, but nothing. Believe me it was a really traumatic experience. I do not want anyone to experience it.

  24. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Hello to my Sugarfamily,
    Hubbie Henri is back ! Who ? Me ? Hubbie material ?
    Well perhaps in fifty years time. I’ll explain.
    When on my business trip I stayed for an afternoon in a private clinic in Germany.
    In my opinion the medical care in Germany is the best in Europe.
    I had a complete health check-up including an MRI scan from tot to bottom.
    The specialst declared me in great health, nothing wrong or so, they could not find anything at all.
    Must be the good champagne Piper Heidsick I guess.
    I asked him: “where do we go from here ? ”
    The answer was: “report back in fifty years time.”
    So I am afraid that I must dissapoint the SB who wrote me about marriage. Besides I could never do so because of all the SBs on my favourite list. It would be very heartless, marriage.
    Although perhaps in five decades, I might sit behind the geraniums in the window sill, being house-trained, or as somebody else once mentioned
    house-broken.
    What an odd idea to be on the website Seeking Arrangement for a husband.
    I just mention my story, because so many SBs get irritated when an SD wishes to turn the arrangement into a serious relationship.
    So an SB and an SD might find themselves in the same position.
    On either side you will find members who are very affectionate and become really attached.
    As to the attraction one may have for person from a different age group, it is just a matter of meeting someone with a great click ! Then age or whatever is no issue, not even my freckless.
    Remember Juliet was only just 14 when she got intimate with Romeo.
    And the profet Mohammed took for his fourth wife a girl 9 years old.
    Age is something very much defined by cultural background, I guess.
    I must confess that I after I had been in Nirwana with the twins, I looked differently at girls in their twenties.
    This last remark may sound prurient. Yes, was happy to add a new SA word to my vocabulary. An SB had prurient in her profile. I looked it up in the COD: “prurient” given to lewd ideas.
    Smiling Henri

  25. SuthrnExec says:

    NC – great idea – insulin is in the bag!

    I feel same way about the attraction part. Probably a good thing most women aren’t as superficial as us guys, but there has to be attraction – and many times the physical attraction grows as we become more attracted to someone’s other qualities.

  26. NC Gent says:

    Hello all! Hope everyone has a great weekend — and take some insulin with u SE! lol

    Sweetnothings — from an SD perspective, I wouldn’t want an SB that wasn’t physically attracted to me — it would get old real quick and you can only fake it for so long before he recognizes it…. having said that, maybe you can find him more attractive on another level due to his personality? maybe this is what you are implying when you said you could still be intimate with him…. I had a great relationship with a very attractive SB for over 2 years… she found older men attractive — I guess she accepted that my mind compensated for my less than perfect body. Good luck hunting and I am truly sorry about your first SB experience.

  27. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Welcome to the blog sweetnothings :)

  28. SuthrnExec says:

    Hey Nico – headed west this afternoon – couldn’t come at a better time! I have become hypoglycemic due to our not being able to see each other for a while! I’m definitely a better person when I am around her, so the world will be happier when I am basking in the OC-sunlight!

  29. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Good morning everyone, last night was an interesting night to say the least. While staying up and listening to people make complete fools of themselves on one of my favourite radio programs, I ended up ending a potential SD in Boston. I should’ve known something was wrong when I looked at his profile and it seemed all too familiar. Lo and behold, it was my old SD and guess what? He wants to see me again…hmm? He said he wants to fly me back up North next week for shopping and dinner once again. So I guess I’ll see how that goes.

  30. SuthrnExec says:

    LOL, not excusing unacceptable behavior, but unless he tried to do something illegal, you probably shouldn’t post his profile number. If something illegal was attempted, maybe you should email SA’s support or feedback email address.

  31. sweetnothings says:

    Hi sweetredhead and SuthrnExec. Thank you for the responses.

    Sweetredhead, that is very good advice. I feel like I’m still getting my bearings and trying to figure out exactly what I want, which is why it has been so hard to figure out which men I want to let go of and which I want to meet. I’m on a regular online dating service, and that seems so much easier than this site! It’s funny, I thought it would be the opposite.

    SuthrnExec: I know that the right thing to do is tell her. Therapists are supposed to act simply as a mirror, so I’m only hiding from myself by not telling her. *sigh* Doing the right thing is so annoying sometimes. haha

  32. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Good morning Sweet Red and SE….hello LOL_A *HUGS* to my sugar fam.

    Life is great here in SW FL!!

  33. SuthrnExec says:

    Good morning everyone – welcome Sweetnothings (or “Sweetnuttin’s” as we say in the South) –

    SN, regarding your therapist, she is not going to value you more or less based on what you share with her – at least if she is professional and good in her field. Go ahead and share it with her. If you still don’t want to fully disclose it to her, you could say you’re experimenting with an online dating and see what she thinks – but she’s probably going to try to get you to see why you felt you needed to try that avenue. Just some food for thought.

  34. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Good Morning sugars.

    Sweetnothings, welcome to the blog.

    You need to be careful, some of these men are not true Sugar Daddies and are looking (excuse my bluntness) to get laid. Stay on neutral ground, do not meet in a hotel room or go back to your dorm until you are sure about the man.

    About attraction, there is more to attraction then physical attraction. If you enjoy his company and enjoy being with him, then look at what you want. You have to decide if this is what you want or not.

    The best advice I can give you is Know what YOU want. Never settle for anything you are not comfortable with. It takes time to find the right arrangement. Don’t be in a hurry. If you want physical attraction, then wait for it. If you are looking for a certain kind of arrangement, then don’t settle for anything less. You have to KNOW what you are looking for. That’s the first step in this type of relationship.

    Hope hope you understand what I am trying to say. I hope this helps.

  35. sweetnothings says:

    No, that is nice to hear. Because, to be honest, if I had to be attracted to the SD I was seeing well……I wouldn’t have responded to any of the messages I’ve gotten. I think in general I have high standards, but also it’s just a fact that most of the men on this site are significantly older than I would ever consider actually dating. I’m not talking about 30’s and 40’s, I”m talking my Dad’s age or older. I’ve ruled most of those men out, but there are some very promising ones in the 30 and 40 range that have everything except the physical appearance. I guess that’s life right? You can’t have it all. We have the looks but lack the money, they have the money and some lack the looks.

    Also, as a side question, is it weird that I don’t even want to tell my therapist that I’m on this site? I go to a women’s college, and I just know that I’m not going to like the response she gives me. Ugh, I’m going today and I have to decide. It’s never good to omit information from your therapist, I know, but I just hate feeling judged.

    AsianSB, I wish you the best of luck with your adventures on the site. Thanks for your thoughts.

  36. AsianSB says:

    sweetnothings: I am also very new to this site, I’ve been here maybe two days now. I have not had any contact with any SDs yet, but regarding your question, I don’t think I can personally be attracted to all the SDs I have seen, but from reading this blog, there are plenty of SBs that are physically attracted to their SDs.

    That being said, being a SB is different (not coming from experience but from what I expect) than being a girlfriend or something similar. We are in these relationships for mutual benefits. I hope I’m not talking through the hat here. Hope this helps, but I am a step behind you since I have not yet experienced this or any SD/SB relationship yet.

  37. sweetnothings says:

    Hello everyone, although I don’t think anyone’s up at the moment….

    I wanted to introduce myself: I’m a 20-year-old college student in NYC, and I joined this site around 2 weeks ago. I’ve gotten a fair number of responses…met with one guy…horrible experience. He lied to me about wanting an ongoing thing, convinced me to have us meet up by my school which I was uncomfortable with, and then pressured me into having sex on the first date AT MY DORM ROOM, and then tried to leave without giving me anything. As much as I already felt like a hooker at that point, I asked him for money because I knew I would never see him again. $100 begrudgingly. BLECH. Oh, that’s nice to get off of my chest. The thing is it wasn’t necessarily a scam because I know he has money, but he’s a dog and completely took advantage of me. I consider myself a pretty savvy girl, but as a younger person on this site, I just didn’t know how to play nor what the rules are for this type of arrangement. I only wish I had read the blog first…

    I met with a second guy last night, great experience! We went to an incredibly nice hotel in the city where the entire staff seemed to know who he was. We got along great and I like that he’s done this before and has an allowance system that is very generous. I have to ask though….I like everthing about him, but I’m not necessarily physically attracted to him. That doesn’t mean I would have a problem being intimate with him, but on a gut level I know I would never date him in the real world. Can I get any honest souls out there to tell me what they think about this? You guys can’t have been attracted to all of the SD’s you’ve seen, right?

  38. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Oooo Victoria, you play the Sims too, haha. I’m getting the third one this summer, but time to get back to the topic….

    I’m up listening to LoveLine and I figured I’d comment on the previous posts. First off congrats Kathryn on the great date! :) Hopefully he’s the SD for you, which it sounds like he may be. Natasha, you slept with him before he gave you anything?!?! I’m not meaning to come off sounding gold diggerish here, but I would never sleep with a potential SD before getting some type of “sugar”. I mean that kinda is a big part of the whole SD/SB concept, companionship and friendship in exchange for some financial assistance and spoiling. I think you should talk to him about the lack of spoiling that is going on before you have sex with him again. Just my little opinion.

  39. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Well, it’s gotten so quiet… :-(

    I think I’m going to go do some *studying*…or play Sims…I think I’ll choose the latter. 😀

    Night, sugar family!

  40. Kathryn says:

    Hey sugar blog!

    Just wanted to update everyone: I had an AMAZING sugar date tonight. He was handsome, charming, a total sweetheart…the whole package. He came to our date with some gift cards and some sugar as well, and we talked until the restaurant closed down!! We were both laughing and cracking jokes for hours–my ribs actually hurt from laughing so hard right now haha.

    After my odd encounter with the sketchy hotel dude, I was thrilled to find a genuinely AMAZING connection in this man. It can happen, ladies!!

    Your dream SD could be just around the corner! Keep up your spirits!

  41. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Sugarbabytoday, a few days or so ago, Lisa said she was leaving. I’m not sure if she meant for good, but I assume that’s why she hasn’t been back.

    Welcome, AsianSB! I personally, don’t think it matters who initiates contact.

  42. Sugarbabytoday says:

    Hey every one… just wanted stop by thanks ny just read your message… my sb and I for the most part have a great communication even though he is married but doesn’t ask any of those questions. We also just got together like a week ago and that was the first and only time he did tell me he would like to meet up again but with the Walk to Defeat ALS Friday and Saturday I have a down syndrome bowling party to deal with (last day of the league) I am busy and he is having minor procedure done next week and will be out of commission for at least a week we will have a slight break. Oh well I am going to keep looking for a SD in hopes to find better….

    Also has any one heard from Lisa yet? I am so worried about her! She used to be on here daily and I haven’t seen her in days. If any one has her e-mail please let me know my name above yAhoo. I hope she is alright worries me because there are so many crazy people out there you can’t be to careful.

  43. AsianSB says:

    Hey Sugars,

    I am new, finally able to log in :). Is there a norm to who initiates contact? Like, is it the SB who contacts the SDs, or vise versa , or does it really not matter? I have brand new to this, and have no idea what to do. Thanks in advance for any help or advice.

  44. Natasha says:

    Thanks everyone for your advice and comments!

  45. Jai says:

    Thanks for the advice Sweetascanbe :) I started searching again today.

    Cat: I’m sorry to read about your situation. It would suck to go all that way and be even slightly disappointed.

    Natasha: I hope everything works out for you and your SD since it seems you two have developed a comfortable friendship. Hopefully an opportunity to discuss the money situation will present itself without causing any issues as well.

  46. Natasha says:

    n e ways enuff about my situation…i was suppose to help him out with his website and i have spent my whole night bloggin

  47. Natasha says:

    lol….i think thats what it is dc…but since him and me both were 1st timers as sugardaters we did things wrong..the first time we did meet the only thing he told me was that he has accomplished everything he wanted in life. he says hes happy with all his materials, lifestyle, and millions and that the only thing missing in his life is a wife and his kids…he really wants to have children. so idk if the reason he met me was hoping to find that.

  48. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    I have a question for Stephan: Is this for real?: SD profile #291372 … If so, Please let me know! Thanks alot! :-)

    Natasha: SDs are men, and some men are extremely affectionate. I think it depends on the person, not whether or not he’s an SD. So, to ask if all SDs are affectionate (implying that you don’t expect them to be), would be almost like asking if all women are mechanics (as lots of people don’t expect women to know squat about mechanics). Just my opinion. If it bothers you that he’s so affectionate, then ultimately you may become uncomfortable with him and the whole thing might go down the drain. Ultimately, it’s completely up to you how you react to/deal with your situation.

  49. DC says:

    Well Natasha, I am glad you found someone you clicked with.
    I would imagine now that you’ve had sex it will be hard to start discussing $$$ which is probably why its best to get that out of the way before that develops…but what do I know LOL

  50. Natasha says:

    Im just worried about how he will react…I am scared that he might say something like he thought we really clicked. he left to go see his family for 2 weeks the guy texted me and told me he couldnt wait to come back to see me…and when he sees me he kept telling me he missed me. its just really weird. are sugardaddys that affectionate??

  51. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Then…try harder to keep your hands off of him? Lust is a powerful thing, but you’ve gotta think clearly. Try meeting in a public place (if it’s possible, I completly understand how some SDs need to be private, though), like a coffee shop. You’d be less inclined to attack each other when people are staring and there’s a chance you’ll get kicked out.

  52. Natasha says:

    we dont go out cuz i always go to his office to meet and leave my car there but apparently. we cant keep our hands off eachother and because of that we forget about the plans we made in the first place to go out to eat

  53. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Hiya, Nico!

    Okay, so if we *do* get IM, no video chat. lol…that’d be… *disturbing*…

  54. Natasha says:

    Well the problem is evrything started wrong. he wanted to meet we both are new at this sugardaddy thing. we met and we had this strong attarction we clicked in everyway possible no discussion on wat he wants or wat i want. by second date we saw eachother and jumped on eachother. he doesnt stop telling me he likes me. hes keeps telling me he wants to keep seeing me. he just discovered i am a good listener, help in anyway possible and after that he told me he wants to keep talking to me. he did state the last time we met that he wants to start taking me to dine and stuff. but i have refrained myself because he wants to do this almost all the days of the week. we do enjoy eachother dearly and the way he treats me is awsome. he respects me, he babies me. hes very affectionate caring, careful…all that good stuff.

  55. DC says:

    Hey Victoria! How’s it going?

    Natasha- I agree with Nico. I’m kinda new at this myself so maybe not the best to give advice..but in general us gals tend to expect men to read our minds and that usually doesn’t work because for the most part they are clueless. So I’m a big advocate of being as forthcoming and open and honest with them as possible and that goes for everyone in my life, not just here.

    Express your concerns in a non threatening way. Not good to let things fester. If he runs…then he wasn’t a good catch to begin with

    DC

  56. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    I’m pretty good CSB, putting off homework….

    Natasha, I’m confused as to what exactly is your main problem: that you haven’t gotten any *sugar* (money, gifts, etc?), or that he waited to tell you that he’s married, or simply that he is married?
    If it’s about the sugar, maybe just talk to him about it.
    If it’s about his being married, does that make you uncomfortable? You don’t think he’s lying. Plus, he’s planning on getting a divorce, does THAT (his impending divorce, thus making him more available to you) make you uncomfortable?
    If you’ve only been seeing each other for about a month, then I’d assume he was just waiting until the right time to tell you. Until he felt close enough to you to share that. But does his waiting make you uncomfortable?

  57. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    LOL_A: I agree about the instant messenger feature. I know I won’t use it. I had a profile on another website with that feature and it was useless. Mostly perverts that opened video chat to try to get off. You don’t even get the chance to accept, it just opens regardless. Very disgusting. For those sugars that want IM, they’d be happy if it’s added but it’s not my thing.

    Natasha: If you’re looking for a friend, you’ve found him. If you want a sugar daddy, he’s not the one. Did you guys discuss an arrangement in the beginning? Why has he not spoiled you yet? You need to have a serious talk with him about the financial aspect before moving forward. Don’t feel bad because you’ve developed a friendship. He surely isn’t feeling bad for not spoiling you.

  58. Nico says:

    Good evening Natasha. The response to your question is up to you. By that I mean you must sit down with him and discuss your expectations. Don’t assume just because you’ve had the initial chat that things will just magically fall into place. Us women ‘assume’ men should ‘know’ what we want when some are good at guessing, most require us to articulate our desires. Good luck.

  59. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    I believe I forgot to greet DC! Hiya! 😀

  60. Natasha says:

    girls ive been seeing my sugardaddy for 3 weeks or 4 now and i have not seen no $$$$ no nothing…I need your help girls to break it down. i feel bad because we have developed sort of a friendship. hes already started to tell me his personal things and hes very open with me about his life but i always found it was weird that he never showed me his house. he finally told me in our last meeting hes married and filing for a divorce in 30 days. he told me this without me asking anything. i think he isnt lieying because he stil had the choice of not telling me. what should i do….my situation is difficult

  61. LOL_A says:

    Hi,

    I agree with NightmareSD.

    A forum would be great. I don’t think IM is a good idea… Considering the amount of fake SD, that would be a better playground for them… It is my opinion…

    “Add generic types of arrangements to search on as well.” That is brilliant. The more information about the type of arrangement both SD and SB are looking for, the better. Less time wasted.

    Now I think what is really missing on SA is a better screening. I am sure there is a way if there is a will… From what I experienced and what I read on the SA blog, there is too much fakes and flakes and scams… on both sides.

    Oh and, drop the “open amount negotiable”. Lets face it, we all have a budget/assistance wanted in mind. Like we say in french; “Lets call a cat, a cat”

  62. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Hey Victoria. How are you this evening?

    Natasha: I’m all ears.

  63. Natasha says:

    cat i just read your story…wow…the first time i got intimate with my suggardaddy he wanted to have the unprotected sex and i told him no cuz of the risk of babies. well he didnt mind and told me dont worry i will suport both of you for the rest of your life. i didnt give in. he tested me to see how far i went. he told me the second time we met.

  64. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Hey, Natasha, CSB, sweetred, how are you ladies this evening?

  65. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Hiya, lovlies!

    How is everyone this evening?

    Cat, I’m sorry you had such a *strange* experience. I’m sure you’ll find better! I’ve had a number of guys ask me to have their baby when we first met…but that was usually under very different circumstances (I.E. they were very DRUNK). It’s something to laugh about later!

  66. Natasha says:

    I need serious help

  67. DC says:

    Thanks sweetred!

  68. Natasha says:

    is anyone experienced in setting arrangements???

  69. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Very nice profile DC, thank you for sharing :)

    Good evening sugars. Hope everyone is having a wonderful night.

  70. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Hello sugars…

    Cat: Awww…Glad that I could help to make your experience a little less scary. I’m so sorry to hear that things didn’t go well. I went to met my SD a few weeks ago but I planned the visit in a city that I had friends in case I needed to bail. Next time you find yourself in my city and uncomfortable, give me a shout and I’ll rescue you lol.

    SweetAsCanBe: Happy to hear your sugary tales. Good with your SD. :)

  71. Natasha says:

    hello ladies

  72. DC says:

    Sure Sweetred, that’s only fair, I’m 320283

    How does one put a picture in their blog posts or their handle?

  73. CuriousSB says:

    G’evening SDs & SBs –

    Wondering if you think geographic location/regionality (within U.S.) plays heavily into monthly allowance. It would be silly to assume there is some formula out there but I’m wondering what the general feeling is.. What’s too low, what’s ideal, if PURELY based on x/wk meetings.

  74. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    How how about letting us see your profile :) It’s only fair.

  75. DC says:

    Okay, I got it now. Thanks everyone. Nice to put a face behind some of the words. Y’all look great!

  76. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    I am only a standard member (right now anyway, have upgraded a few times) But that doesn’t matter.

  77. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    The person you are looking up may have a profile that is pending approval. keep trying :) Just take out the number only, in the address bar, then replace with new number.

  78. DC says:

    Hey Sweetred-

    I read that if you want to look up a profile by member # you just sub the number after the i.d. but when I do that it says profile not available. Is that because I’m only a lowly standard member?

    Cat- I feel for ya. I’ve been in that situation but never in a different city or for that long. How awful it must have been for you. Live and learn and trust your instincts I guess

  79. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Hey Cat, sorry for the odd experience. If a SD would have told me he wanted to have kids with me the first time we met I would’ve freaked out. I’m a pretty open person, but that’s just plain weird. Better luck next time though. :)

    Sparkling Diamond I agree with you on the meeting 3x a week comment. I don’t mind seeing my SD maybe once a week, but 3x a week for $2k a month, I don’t think so. The only males I want to see 3x a week and be intimate with is my boyfriend, and sometimes I don’t even want to see him that much lol.

    SweetAsCanBe, I’m so jealous. You’re going to Australia! Well have fun down there I heard it’s pretty nice this time of year. Oh and of course tell us all about it when you get back.

    I have some news myself, one of my old potential SDs that I had went on a very lovely date with texted me this morning and wants to meet up for dinner again. I’m thinking I’ll go since I had a fun time with him the last time. He’s been out of town for awhile so I guess I’ll see how things go this time around.

  80. Porcelain says:

    I relatively new t this site but i think a chatroom would be nice, some of the other sugar daddy sites have chatrooms and ive noticed ive met more people in there then on this site.

  81. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    You can ask Beach_girl for it too she has it :)

  82. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Firefighter….sorry I missed your post was reading back and just seen it. Yes I have both MSN and yahoo. Can’t give you that here. Stephen will spank me. My look up my profile number and send me a message or give me your profile Number. Can never have to many SB friends :)

  83. Cat says:

    Hey Sugar Family!
    I flew to Toronto to meet a pot not too long ago and I have to first of all say thanks to BG and CSB for keeping in touch while I was there, just in case something went wrong. I really appreciated that!
    Now for my story…
    I started talking to this older gentleman who seemed so very friendly, as opposed to many other pots who were not so nice or willing to move forward. We talked everyday, sometimes multiple times a day and we seemed to be on the same wavelength and have chemistry, so I agreed to fly there to meet him. I should have went with my gut instinct when he recommended I take a shuttle to the airport instead of a taxi, because it was cheaper (he was paying for it). Keep in mind he is a CEO.
    But, since it was complicated to get shuttle service, he agreed I should take a cab. Secondly, he had booked my flights and preselected my seats…he had begun saying I would be flying first class so I could sleep better on my overnight flight, then changed his mind and flew me economy and my seat? Right by the bathroom! But by then I was on the plane…So I toughed it out and when I got there he was waiting for me. He had told me that he had a huge house, so I could just stay there because he had plenty of space and lived alone, but although I felt comfortable on the phone talking to him, when I got there I didn’t feel quite as comfortable, especially after seeing that he had lied about a few things…little things, but lies none the less. He also kissed me right after we got into the door, even though I never hinted at wanting it, EVER! So I kept my distance the whole time…what followed was a series of attempts at being affectionate towards me, which I always refused, meeting some of his family members (odd…), eating at restaurants the entire time and me trying to be kind, but not more than I had to. He tried convincing me that it was the best thing for me to move there with him and go to school there, because everything would be paid for, even if I wanted to leave right after finishing my degree. He also mentioned he wouldn’t mind being a father again and everytime we passed by a maternity or kids clothing store he would make a remark. *chills* I wanted to be rescued, but kept telling myself it was just 48h…it seemed like forever. I’ve never been so happy to come back to my small apartment, to my shitty job, in a crappy part of town and taking the bus.

    I know that some women would love to be with a man who provided them with everything they needed and might like to have a baby with a CEO. I actually though that might be attractive too, but I realised I rather work for what I have and not feel like I owe someone something, or regret having been with a much much older man just to get myself through University, have a nice car and live in a nice neighborhood.

    I contacted the first ever pot I met, who didn’t spoil me, but always was there for me and had stayed in contact. We went to a comdy show, hung out, and it was nice…really nice. *butterflies*

  84. SweetAsCanBe says:

    Jai: if you aren’t looking forward to spending time with him….you can’t fake that! I have been there…my last “so called” Sd, bored me to tears. You should be having fun! You should have butterflies in your stomach…you should be enchanted…Isn’t that why we are all here!!??

    If it were me, I would shop around a bit, nothing wrong with seeing what the other appetizers are!

    ~Sweetie~

  85. Jai says:

    Ok, since I’m sitting here lol I figure I’ll ask for some advice. Has anyone experienced becoming annoyed with an sd/sb? I wont go into much detail, but I find myself becoming increasingly more disenchanted with my SD. He’s a great guy, but it’s almost like we’re married…bleh lol any advice?

  86. Jai says:

    Hi sugar family,

    I’ve been absent for a while, but I wanted to check in and see how everyone is doing. :) So, how are you guys?

  87. SweetAsCanBe says:

    sweetred: I feel the same way, I don’t need a Sd to support me either…believe me I have a wonderful career…but it does make paying tuition easier! Hows the job search going? Two of my BFFs were laid off last week…this economic crisis sure makes me want to downsize that is for sure!! Awww…putting the sugar search on hold…the next thing you will know, you’ll have so many, you won’t know what to do with them!

    Isn’t that the way it always happens? 😉

    ~Sweetie~

  88. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Thanks OC :) I AM worth it!!!!

  89. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Thats Great Sweetascanbe, Hope you have a wonderful time. Your a very lucky sugar. Does he have a brother? lol

    I am still job hunting. It’s a full time job lol. I want to get back to work and not worry about my bills.

    Putting the sugar search on hold for now. I have to focus my attention on my job search. I don’t want a Sd to support me, I do that myself.

  90. OCSugarBaby says:

    Good Morning Sugars!

    La-la-la-la-LO-LA: You are most welcome! Enjoy.

    Nitemare: You are being rude to a sugar and it is not attractive. I believe there is medication for Turrets Syndrome.

    Welcome Edele! We have a ton of room in our family for new sugars.

    Sweetie: Ride that wave baby!

    Gail! I miss you…

    Sweetred: Say it loud and say it proud, I am worth it!

    Nyland: TMI

  91. SweetAsCanBe says:

    Edele: Thanks…and how did you know where I was going??!! LOL I’m anxious about what I’m going to wear, it’s “winter” there…but not quite like our winters…oh goodness….

    Where is everyone today???

  92. Edele *319263* says:

    Wow, SweetAsCanBe! I hope I get a lucky as you…and have a blast at ur “exotic” location down under!

  93. SweetAsCanBe says:

    Sparkling Diamond: Ohhhh la la, love the name! You are so right, we should put that on t-shirts…I can see it now, we could make them all pink, and have the words NEVER COMPROMISE YOUR INTEGRITY OR PERSONAL VALUE…then we could spot a fellow sugar anywhere!! how exciting would that be??

    News…….this just in from the Bat Cave………(insert Mission Impossible Music)……………………………………………………………………………………..

    SD just paid my mortgages…and we are flying to an “exotic” location in a week and a half. Not going to say, where….but I will be eating a bloomin onion, petting a kangaroo, while catching a boomerang…and saying things like, “goo-day mate.” LOL Very excited….overwhelmed…I’m feeling very, very fortunate. This has been a long road…I’m so ready to take it all in and breath!

    Good morning Sweetred….Good Girl, you are worth it…and then some! You are a spit fire…tell them like it is! Good Stuff!!

    Cherrio Mates…

    ~Sweetie~

  94. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Good morning sugars! Beautiful day here in Florida.

    Well I changed my profile from open amount negotiable to $3000-$5,000 I didn’t want to set a price level but after all the Sd;s (who call themselves that) Contact me and waste my time saying they want a regular relationship. I have decided to change this amount. I hate doing that, but this is really getting on my last nerve.

    Do these men know what this site is about? Go to a dating site for petes sake.

    Ok through ranting :) on with the sugar love :)

  95. Sparkling Diamond says:

    What? $2k/month and 3 dates a week is hardly spoiling. .. Red flag! That is no sugar daddy. This guy is looking for a call-girl service. Everyone is different and has different ideas about what ‘alot’ of money is or what ‘fair’ is .. That figure just sounds like taking advantage! I can imagine boredom and resentment would quickly stem from that ‘arrangement.’ $2k/month for one date a week is a bit more like it.

    Thankfully my SD is a super spoiler and provides me with minimum $5k/month, I see him maybe 3x .. Super successful men truly don’t have time for tons of dates.

    Never compromise your integrity or personal value.

  96. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Guess no one wants to hear my latests news. Gotta get to work now, so I’ll have to leave you hanging….ta ta!

  97. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Good morning! Anybody up and about?

  98. Gail says:

    Good Morning Sugars : )

    Nitemare…lol…u make me chuckle in the morning….

    Was there a allnighter on the blog last nite? seems like it…

    Ok…time for coffee…I am in lurk mode…

  99. NitemareSD says:

    Where can I get far more than just a pop from a 20 yr old engineering student for $150?

  100. Nyland says:

    GND, you need to go to sleep!!!! :)

    Sweet, Im just saying…she was an animal!!! It takes all kinds

  101. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Hello everyone, up still…writing. argh! need to get some sleep for my afternoon exam tomorrow.

  102. SweetAsCanBe says:

    Nyland: It was just well written…I practically got a visual 😉

    hee hee

    ~Sweetie~

  103. Nyland says:

    Im awake….still

    and maybe at this day and age the term “choir boy” is not appropriate, but at one time it was LOL.

  104. SweetAsCanBe says:

    Lola….Haven’t seen you on here…welcome
    What are you having writer’s block with…maybe I can help!

    OC is fabulous, and yes, an angel, I don’t know that Nitemare was off the mark though…the situation wasn’t portrayed in the most favorable light. 😉

    Janet: I think you should approach that subject like you would in any relationship, be upfront, direct on honest…just to lay all the cards out. :)

    Nyland: choir boy…I about spit out my coffee!

    Well, SugarLand….I’m drinking coffee….writing papers is anyone awake besides me?? 😉

    ~Sweetie~

  105. Nyland says:

    Im sorry Janet…that must be difficult for you.

    I would certainty be open and upfront right away with a pot SD about your HSV.
    It is relatively common and you may find some others who have it and do not care. I think there are meds to make passing it less likely but, even meds and condoms are not fool proof.

    U need to be patient and honest and I think eventually you will find somebody for you.

  106. Lola says:

    Just had a thought, has anyone tried to arrange a sugar family “reuinion”?
    I am curious and would like to meet many of you.

  107. Lola says:

    Hello all,

    I have finally made it through the blog on the NYT article and this one. Evidently I am a little late in arriving to the scene.

    First and foremost, thank you OC for the warm welcome to the sugar family! You seem like the gaurdian angel of all sugar babbies.

    I would also like to say thank you for all the kind comments.

    On another note, Nitemare, I am that 20yr old engineering college student and I am a far cry from being just a “pop” thank you very much. :p

    Janet, I would be up front and honest. It is a harsh reality, but it is part of being a good person. I wish you all the best.

    I might disappear for awhile as I was only on here due to writers block and decided to let my brain rest for a few minutes.
    I wish all new sugars the best of luck, a toast to the veterans, and a good night to all!

    Lola

  108. Janet says:

    Hello fellow sugar babies. I’ve been lurking for a bit and have a serious question for you. And please feel free to answer me anonymously. I have been chatting with a sugar daddy recently. I am HSV positive (herpes) and we all know how common this is. I am always careful and always use condoms. I am wondering how to broach the subject with a potential sugar daddy. In the real world I usually bring it up before we have sex obviously but I’m wondering if this is something I should bring up right away as to not waste their time. I imagine most would reject me based on this unless they have it themselves. I am wondering if anyone has had to deal with this. I find it very depressing at times

    Thank you in advance for your responses

    Janet

  109. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Agreed, DC…2K a month would be pretty awesome for me.

  110. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Where’d everyone go?

  111. DC says:

    Good for you Victoria! Nothing like self confidence. It is so sexy. I usually can get it together right before a date and go out feeling confident.

    Nyland- reading the posts that speak of financial matters, I get the impression some liken this whole process to a job offer. i.e. in 2001 I was offered a job and the salary range was 56-81K so I asked for 70 even though I knew it was way more than I should have asked for based on the job description. I got it! Then I felt like I should have asked for more. It’s called greed. I’m not saying any of these SBs are not worth it, I’m sure they are, but I’d be thrilled to get 2 K a month to see someone 2-3 times a week. I also don’t plan to get involved with someone I am not into where it does feel like a job. So I’d be hanging out with someone cool and the rest is icing on the cake.

  112. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Have fun this weekend, Nyland!

    Random thought:
    Someone mentioned that it’d be a good idea for SDs and SBs from the blog to try meeting each other? Lol…I just thought I’d second that motion! 😉

  113. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Welcome, DC! And good luck! As far as nervous and insecure, well, I haven’t met an SD yet…BUT I’m almost always nervous, and almost never insecure…I don’t see that changing. lol

  114. Nyland says:

    Hello all you clever and interesting SB blogging this evening…
    Takes so long to get caught up with all the sugar blogging. Spent all day supervising the grounds crew and planting a few fruit trees myself :)

    As far as weather 2000 a month for 3 meetings a week is fair. I guess you can see it from both sides. 2k is quite a bit of cash and is probably closer to 2.5 k when taxes are considered, but if you consider it merely a job ( a distasteful one) well then no money would be enough. If there is strong connection and mutual trust enjoyment then 2k would most likely be more than enough. One SB I had 2 years ago had a good job and after 3 months didnt want money anymore cause we hit it off so well. But I think if a pot SD just emails and talks about money, transactions, and banal details as such…dump him you can find better! A lot can be learned by chatting for a few hours before meeting.

    I think we all need a dose of patience and knowing specifically what we want and who we want then it will fall into place. There are sweet gentleman out there and you just need to find them. Tell them you want a relationship built on trust, fun, mutual spoiling and a good degree of egalitarianism.

    My SB and I are looking forward to friday night. She is going to need de-stressing after a week of studying and tests! Off to the casino and a nice dinner and a little spa treatment for her while I try to break the bank. Then back to the hotel where a little night cap, cuddling, movie watching, and enjoying each other.

    As far as a SD being a “perv” well that (usually) is in the eye of the beholder. All the more to find somebody who is sexually compatible. My last SB was a beautiful sweet intelligent girl…until I got her alone. She then made me look like a choir boy (and believe me im not!!) She was aggressive, verbal, and also very wonderful lover but I almost felt like she was taking advantage of me…of course I let her. :) The lesson is that it is not just SD who may be a little over the edge in sexual content….SBs can be too!!!!!

    Wishing you all the best in your travels and searches.

    Nyland

  115. DC says:

    Hi SBs-

    I could see myself becoming addicted to this blog. Put up my profile last week and got about 10 e-mails and it’s quieted down quite a bit the last few days. Well I am twice the average SB age so that’s probably why. So I am new to all of this. If I meet my first SD next week it will be a first. I am nervous. I am in pretty good shape for a woman my age but I wonder if they expect perfection. I have cellulite and all the things a typical middle aged woman has even though I work out a lot. I’m attractive, but not a head turner, but I bring a lot to the table. Were most of you really nervous and feeling insecure at first? I guess all I can do is be myself, if they like me they like me right?

    I have been e-mailing a pot SD for about 5 days now and he has been respectful and nice and e-mailed me every day. he is traveling this week and originally he said he wanted to meet when he got back to town. But he hasn’t asked me since then my availability. I hope we do get to meet because he is cute, smart and has many interests.

    I must go on at least 5 blind dates a month and sometimes get so nervous. This will be 10 times as bad. But reading this blog has been so helpful. Thanks everyone!

  116. CARTIER says:

    ive had a poof daddy, im over it but it pisses me off to kno he’s still on the site and lurking to hurt other girlies….. i just want a sweet weirdo….. is that too much…..

    muah

  117. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Aw… :-( *hugs* to raine!

  118. Sugarbabytoday says:

    Hey every one!

  119. raine says:

    Oh well…I now have to devote a bare minimum of six hours weekly to churn out emails (and get an actual avatar this weekend while I’m at it. *Grrr* for the latter.) 😐

  120. raine says:

    Hi. *ahem* Waaaah! Another one taken!!

    [I emailed a local about an hour ago; he replied 10 minutes ago to politely inform me he’d already found a SB. I thanked him for the heads up, but still, waah…]

  121. OCSugarBaby says:

    Sweetie! You crack me up. I love pixie sticks. I love the sweet sour thing. Firefighter needs to be amused? :)

  122. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Hello, sugars!
    I loved reading about all of the good luck floating throughout the blog! 😀 Congrats, darlings!

    Tyaddir, I don’t think you really did anything wrong. But, perhaps, patience might be a good idea? Like us, SDs have busy lives and may just be unable to reply. I sometimes don’t reply to texts when I’m busy, and then I just forget. It’s not that the person is unimportant (especially because I sometimes don’t even check the text, therefore I have no clue who it actually is). So, maybe wait more than two days before contacting him? I’m not saying he’s not a flake (because that seems so common, doesn’t it?), just that there could be other explanations for his disappearance. I mean, I met a man from the sister site and we speak maybe once or twice a week. He’s a lawyer with very little time on his hands, and I’m a very busy student, so it works. Still, I agree with CSB, keep looking and don’t put all your eggs in one basket. There’s my two cents!

    <3 Sugar lovlies!

  123. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Tyaddir: Like GND said you did nothing wrong. He could be very busy or not interested or any number of other reasons. There’s a saying that applies well to sugar dating; “Don’t put all your eggs in one basket.” Keep looking and if he’s the SD for you, he’ll find his way back.

  124. firefighter486014031 says:

    Or any sugar momma’s or fellow sugar babies. Its Wednesday night and raining here in NY. Someone feel free to amuse me !!! :)

  125. firefighter486014031 says:

    Redhead if your still there id love to chat, Do you use yahoo or msn at all??

  126. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Tyaddir you did nothing wrong, he just may not be the guy for you. I’d move on and look for others in the meantime. He may show up later, but if he doesn’t at least you can know you didn’t waste your time sitting around waiting for someone who disappeared after one dinner.

    Sweetie, yes I know I’ll find a real gentleman. I’m not really too saddened by it now since I just found out my boyfriend will be coming back to NC to visit me over the summer. :) So yes I’ll keep my head up most definitely.

  127. SweetAsCanBe says:

    gurlnextdoor: Don’t worry, you will find a real gentleman and not a manwhore:) You keep your chin up, they are out there…I believe….I believe…..I believe……(throwing pixie dust up in the air) I believe!!

    Try it, you might be surprised it works…now if you don’t have pixie dust, I recommend taking the sugar out of a pixie stick…this is far more fun..or glitter…but if you have a sweet tooth, I recommend the pixie sticks!!

    Oh so Sweet

    ~Sweetie~

  128. tyaddir says:

    im new to the site and picked up two SD one turned out to be a perv full of games and the other i realy liked, we went out to dinner and we talked, i was sooo nervouse the drink i had still didnt loosen me up, but at the end he dropped me off and we kissed and he said that he would like to see me again, two days later left a text then waited another two days and left a voicemail, but still no response? so tell me ladies what did i do wrong? and how can i avoid it from happening again if i can find another?

  129. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Haha I was just told by a “SD” that I might not be cut out for an arrangement because I won’t hop into bed with him on the first night. Sorry boys, not an escort.

  130. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Sweetred: I see your boys are making a habit of this lol. I still envy your warm weather and wish I had a pool to jump into right now.

    GND: Glad he at least explained and didn’t just leaving you hanging on the weekend. Good luck either way with your pot SDs.

  131. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Haha sweetred, well you know boys will be boys.

    Thanks CSB, yeah it does suck but it did sound pretty genuine since the message he left me was straight to the point and seemed rushed. Considering he was the one who brought up the details of what our arrangement would entail, I’m hoping he’ll come around once everything gets better. In the meantime I have a date with potential #2. Wish me luck!

  132. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Nice day here in Florida. Just got thrown in the pool by my son ughhh. I am a sweet frozen Popsicle now! What happen to the sweet little boy who would never think of throwing his mom in the pool?

  133. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Aww GND…that sucks…I know it can be true sometimes but this whole family emergency excuse has been affecting a few SBs lately. Anyways, good luck with your Pot #2.

    Hello Sugars. Gloomy and rainy day here in the city but sundress weather this weekend. Loving it. :)

  134. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Hmm, well he cancelled our date Saturday, says he had a family emergency but will talk to me later. Oh well, on to potential #2 in the meantime. Who just oddly enough, texted me.

  135. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Ok the oddest thing happened, one of my potential SDs deleted his account. Not sure what to make of this, guess I’ll talk to him later about it.

  136. AsianSB says:

    I am trying to log in for the first time out of the States. I am currently in Hong Kong, would this be a reason why I keep getting the, “website is currently under maintenance” problem when I try to log in?

  137. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Stephan posted? (looking around) I see nothing.

  138. Gail says:

    Afternoon OC…sorry for the delay in reponse…the website was taking a break : ) too many SD&SB trying to access at the same time to post.

    I am doing great…just trying to get all my paperwork and finances in order today. It’s time to pay everyone…I am having to dig for change…lol…funny thing…I am finding it here and there…so its not so bad today. Yaaah… I can afford ice cream this afternoon!!!

    Stephan…just love it when you are on the blog…it’s a nice touch when you come out with us and chat : )

  139. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    No not having trouble logging in.

    And I am not addicted either. The first step to having a problem is admitting you have a problem. I am not admitting anything, so I don’t have a problem, I love my logic!

  140. AsianSB says:

    Is anyone having trouble logging into their account? It keeps saying, server maintenance during this period. It has been 2 days now.

  141. SuthrnExec says:

    I am not addicted! I can quit anytime I want to! I’m not addicted! I haven’t been blogging for at least 5 hours now!!

  142. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    It’s sunny here too in NC, just a little windy at the moment.

    Sweetie sounds like your week is going to be pretty awesome. Yes, I’m not one to talk about money on a date either. I rather it be done over the phone or in an IM. For me dates are supposed to be all about fun, getting to know one another, and enjoying each other’s company.

  143. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    firefighter, you can message me on site and I will give you my messenger id :)

  144. OCSugarbaby says:

    Hi Gail: How are you today? Yes, it is sunny as usual in CA! Gotta love it :)

  145. Gail says:

    Afternoon Everyone : )

    Welcome Rich, Firefighter, and Sweetascanbe : )

    Its a beautiful day in Calif…the weekend was wonderful……

    The 1000th comment…wasn’t that the time where blogging was 24 hours on SA?..there was a day, mid, and nite shift. LOL….hmmm it was cold and wintery too…with the warm weather just so much to do now…we always come back : )

    I believe we were SA addicts…lol…I guess that means we still are SA addicts….

  146. firefighter486014031 says:

    oh…. any fellow babies down for some chatting on messanger for a while… bored here for a bit?

  147. OCSugarbaby says:

    Sweetie: The 1k mark is a past blog that went over 1000 comments. :)
    Pink golf shoes? How cute is that! Enjoy the fun. You deserve every moment of it!

  148. SweetAsCanBe says:

    Alright…there must be something in the air??
    What do you think it is…..just received two more emails looks like my social calender just went from blah, blah, blah…to holy crap!!
    Sometimes it feels like feast or famine?
    *Going to dinner tomorrow night…to be followed by shopping, VS…I’ll try not to hyper-ventilate!

    *Monday, hitting the driving range with the #1…I have pink golf shoes, but a year of dust on my golf bag…there is something to be said for really having fun…so many times I’ve met people that say, “I’m really fun, love to travel, want a companion”…etc etc…meanwhile, hiding in the back of restaurants. This is getting really interesting…

    OC: what is the 1k mark….??
    gurlnextdoor: Funny thing is, we never even discussed particulars of anything, I told him in an email…there are three things a real gentleman doesn’t discuss on a date..#1 money, he only refers to it, #2 blatant sex talk, simply dances around it…and #3 well….a girl can’t give away all her secrets!!! hahahahahaha

    😉 ~Sweetie~

  149. OCSugarbaby says:

    Amazing things are happening on SA very soon, I can’t wait! The new features will be welcomed by all…

  150. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    With a $500 gift card, Knowing me I would buy things for my kids. lol

  151. firefighter486014031 says:

    Why can’t we just get a chatroom…. hahah life would be so much easier !!

  152. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Haha OCSugar yes I remember that, in fact I think you were the one with the thousandth comment.

  153. OCSugarbaby says:

    We have hit the 1k comment mark before! Keep blog’n and see if we can top that. :)

  154. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    SweetasCanbe that is awesome! I’m so happy for you! Flowers with a $500 gift card…sounds like your arrangement with him is off to a great start.

  155. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    firefighter …When I win the lotto you can be my sugar baby ok lol

  156. SweetAsCanBe says:

    Thank you, OC,

    I will for sure keep you all posted…finally, I have something wonderful to report back!! HEE HEE

    This is so much better than the coffee dates, I was starting to fear that I was going to walk around on a coffee high indefinitely! Finally, no drama…just fun!

    Rich: You will get there…and oh is it so sugary sweet!
    sweetredhead: Yes, my blog is slow on this end also…must be overlouded from all this SUGAR SWEETNESS!! 😉

    ~Sweetie~

    ~Sweetie~

  157. firefighter486014031 says:

    I think the loading with the blog page is due to the fact that there is almost 700 postings on here to load. We need a new page !!! Any sugar Momma’s hanging out here today???

  158. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Wow Sweetie! Thanks for sharing your wonderful news…I feel like I’ve just been sprinkled with sugar dust!

  159. Rich says:

    the refresh is slow, even with my pages, they load slower than before…

  160. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Rich, to search for a profile number. pick any profile you will see a number at the end in the address bar. take out that number and place the number you are searching for in there. Hope that makes sence.

  161. OCSugarbaby says:

    Sweetie! Wow that is fantastic. I am so happy for YOU! WhooHooo!!!! :)

  162. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Is anyone else having trouble with the loading of the blog page. It is taking forever!. Or is it just a problem with my internet connection. Frustrating!!

  163. SweetAsCanBe says:

    ~ So, I just posted on here….what 20 minutes ago…one of the SDs that I met with yesterday…just had flowers delivered!! The card had a visa card for $500 in it with a note that says, “I can’t wait until we meet again.”

    **WoW…he is a clever man, I was id for a glass of wine yesterday, and he asked to see my picture, and ofcourse showed me his…he must have a photographic memory!** (unlike the other SD, this one and I have communicated for sometime, and there are no red flags for him.) He is quite the high-profile gentleman here in Colorado.**

    WOW!! I’m in shock…I’m excited…I’m feeling amazing…He has just gone straight to the top!

    Even the flowers are classy….AWWWW….warm and fuzzy…or should I say warm and sugary!!

    😉 ~sweetie~

  164. OCSugarbaby says:

    Gurl: Good luck with EXAM’s. The end is near! Sleep is for babies! lol :)

  165. Rich says:

    Is there a way to search through profile numbers, if so how? thank you…

  166. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Sweetascanbe loved the story of your success. Yes, I agree sometimes it takes time. My first real potential SD was a nice man, gave me some money for a shopping trip, but it didn’t really materialize into anything. Luckily though, we’re still friends and keep in touch which is nice. Who says SBs and SDs can’t be friends? 😉 But after a few fakes and one persistent/annoying SD in particular, I’m hoping my search will have finally come to an end.

    And Rich I agree with sweetred. You gotta be careful because there are as many fake SBs out there as there are fake SDs. Take your time and don’t try to rush things. Oh and good luck in your search.

  167. Rich says:

    Thank you, I think I am the frog though, all these ladies are Princesses!!! I will be privileged to connect with anyone of them!

  168. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    That’s great Rich. I hope it works out for you :) Just don’t be discouraged if it doesn’t. You have to kiss alot of frogs to find a prince, or in your case princess :)

  169. Rich says:

    Sweetredhead~Thank you! I am actually meeting a lady in my city next Tuesday. I hope that it works out! This will be my very first through this site. Excited!

  170. OCSugarbaby says:

    Sweetie: Your secret is safe with me. 😉 Plus, I love your comments, so keep on posting! Great news is all around us today! :)

  171. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    That’s great to hear sweetascanbe. It takes time and A LOT of patients. There are some really great men and true Sd’s on this site, we just have to find each other :)

    Rich, some of the woman will contact you and give you private email or messenger, this is not a red flag I do it myself. But be careful. ask her what she is looking for in this type or relationship. Ask questions.

    Redflags would be “I am in trouble need money to get out of the country” Sending money to anyone before you meet them. I think you get the picture.

  172. OCSugarbaby says:

    Welcome Rich! Yes, you will find regular blog posters here on most days, plus a few moderators. :)
    Kiev is a lovely place! Use your judgement and reply stating your interest or lack of. A short personal note is always nice when letting down an SD or SB. Then you can block if you feel it is necessary. :)

  173. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Rich, you just have to weed through them. We all have to deal with scammers and fakes. It takes time to find the right person for you.

  174. SweetAsCanBe says:

    Good Morning Sugar Land!!

    I think an im situation would be outstanding! One stop shopping!

    **I have changed my name, because there is a really odd SD that drives me crazy! I have been on here before, but it has been awhile!

    I was told by a SD that I have been seeing for quite sometime that I should be on some more conventional site, because ultimately I won’t have him over to my house. He even warned me that he might disappear. He is pretty self assured, and I’m not too sure why, he is a horrible kisser. There are some things that money cannot buy, and that is class. My home is my sanctuary, and I own it….and in this market, if this SD ends up being a random stop by…it’s not like I can up and move!!

    On a happier note, I had three dates yesterday with pot SD s and I have to tell you, they were all so wonderful, one wanted to take me shopping, and unfortunately, I had to run to work but said, “I would be more than happy to take a raincheck.” He smiled and said, “wow…you are different…you have raised the bar for me!” So, needless to say, I was on a sugar high when I went to work. :) There is something to be said about not wanting to jump in bed with someone, or their wallet. Great two sided conversation, with depth and class….this was well worth the wait!!!

    It took three months, millions of emails, I not only found one wonderful man, I found three!!! My sugar cup runith over!!!!!!!

    ~Sweetie~

  175. Rich says:

    Ok, here’s the deal, She want s me to send her some photos, i didn’t except for the ones all of you can see in the site, She also wants to know if I am willing to meet her in Kiev? I’ve never been further than London. Should I block the user? By the way she sent me her email so that I can contact her directly… red flags!

  176. Rich says:

    Are you guys regulars in this forum?

  177. SuthrnExec says:

    Yes Rich, scammers are here too – just use common sense.

  178. Rich says:

    Not new to SA, just did not do anything with it till now. Business going through a tough time and looking for an outlet. SD

  179. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Yeah BG still excited :)

    Yeah where is everyone this morning???

  180. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    I don’t know….

  181. Rich says:

    Sweetredhead, what is IDK?

  182. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Good we haven’t scared you off :) Are you a SD? Tell us a little about yourself and what you want out of this site.

    Are you new to SA? ask anything you like we have some really helpful and nice Sb’s and Sd’s here on the blog.

  183. Rich says:

    i have a strange email today from Ukraine… should I be concerned? Anybody knows any scams from there? I just find it very strange…

  184. Rich says:

    Sweetred… thank you
    Beach_Girl Thank you

    I am still here

  185. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Morning Beach_girl! get that homework done young lady! lol

    GND good luck on your exams, I know you will do very well!

    I think we scared Rich off :(

  186. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Still have not found my perfect SD. Maybe I am looking for to much IDK. But I am not willing to settle.

  187. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    sweetred I mean, haha I guess this lack of sleep is starting to catch up with me…. argh! Tomorrow is an exam day :(

  188. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Good morning Sugars!!
    just saying hi, have to do homework!
    Sweetredhead~ glad things are going well
    GND~ 3 days and counting , are you excited?
    Rich ~ that is a good name
    SE~ how are ya!

  189. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Hiya gurlnextdoor How are you :). Wake up people! buying a round of coffee for everyone.

  190. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Good morning sweetre, Suthrn, and Rich…. and anyone else up lurking out there :)

    Sweetred glad your date went well yesterday.

  191. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Richy rich? lol I like!

  192. SuthrnExec says:

    Greetings Rich and welcome – wow – assuming you’re a SD – what a great name!!

  193. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Good morning Rich :) How is your day going? Welcome to the blog!

  194. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    He is a very nice man. I think PMS is effecting my judgment lol. I know TMI!!
    Had a second date with him yesterday :)

  195. Rich says:

    Good morning to all!

  196. SuthrnExec says:

    Good morning Sweetred – hope your date goes as well as your first!

  197. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Good Morning sugars. Hope everyone is having a wonderful day. Had another sugar date with the Sd I meet the other day. Think it is going ok but the jury is still out on that. I will keep you updated.

  198. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Hey there, firefighter! How’s it goin?

  199. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    hey firefighter, still here. :)

  200. firefighter486014031 says:

    hey ya’ll any sugar mommas or fellow sugar babies still awake??

  201. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Hmm Kathryn, well the main potential I’m talking to now (and the one I’m really hoping things will work out with) has no experience being a SD. We had our first initial talk about an allowance and all that over IM. Personally, I see it as a good thing. He has no experience and neither do I, so we can find our way in the sugar world together sort to speak. (Haha told you I’m a romantic 😉 ) Also, he’s more willing to negotiate it seems with me on things rather than just say, ok we do things this or that way. So, I personally like it. :)

  202. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    I think even the newest SDs would benefit from reading this here blog…and nope, it’s no turn off to me. Just means we can learn together what we BOTH want/need out of the sugar lifestyle.

  203. Kathryn says:

    Oh, and gurlnextdoor….I totally understand your comment. I talked to one guy who couldn’t get his former SB out of the conversation, even when I gently tried to redirect his attention to some wonderful and unique things we had in common. It almost seemed as though he wanted to get the point across that his former SB was the EPITOME of SB’s…and I had better mimic her OR ELSE. Haha!! Creepster.

  204. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Hi girls!

    Kathryn, I’ll have to agree with the others. That just seems FAR too shady for my tastes.

  205. Kathryn says:

    Katherine (wow, I WISH my name were spelled like yours!!): I have a few other pot SD’s in the running, so to speak…and they’re all gentlemen thus far. This one just seemed like he might mellow out for the right lady…and I am a sucker for a fixer-upper!! Haha!!

    One thing I am wondering, though…many of the gentlemen in my area have little/no experience with a sugar relationship. I don’t hold this against them (since I don’t have all that much experience with it either!!) but do any of you sugar ladies find that to be a turn-off, so to speak? I can see the benefits to having a SD that knows what a sugar arrangement is all about, though!!

  206. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Your welcome Kathryn. Yeah I think it’s nice when a SD talks fondly about his previous SB or SBs, but sometimes they can do this too much to the point where it’s annoying. One potential I had talked to awhile did this, but then he said the girl turned out to be a golddigger. So he was like “in the end I thought it’s all about the money, so why not be a SD?” Which made me feel like he thought I was just some money loving gold digger. Plus I think I got 2 words into an hour long phone call. The rest was full of him saying how much money he had and how he didn’t flash his money although he could have this and that. In the end it was a turnoff, so I took him off my radar as potential SDs. :)

  207. Katherine says:

    haha I am indeed still here :) Hi Vic!

    Kathryn: glad to hear of the decision. Hopefully a really good/true SD’ll come along soon enough <3

  208. Kathryn says:

    Gurlnextdoor, thank you for your advice! I will not be going tomorrow, then…and I’m really looking forward to NOT spending that gas money!! :)

    I think the main reason I wanted to meet with him is because he spoke very fondly and almost lovingly of his former SB, and he talked at length about his positive experiences with her and how he really wanted to recreate that sort of chemistry again. Hearing that just made my soul smile, but the subsequent bossiness and sketch factor were huge red flags.

    Thanks again for helping a sugar sister out!! *kisses*

  209. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Hey Vic, I’m here and so is Katherine….I think.

  210. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Hello, all! All is well I hope?

    Have fun in Germany, Henri! But…if you marry, does that mean I don’t get anymore of your beautiful poetry in my inbox to cheer me up? That’d be sad indeed! But, as you well know, parting is such sweet sorrow. 😉

    Anyone up to burn the midnight oil?

  211. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Yeah Katherine I agree with you. I don’t like “bossy” either. I’m more of a laid back person who does well with other laid back people. I mean you can be a “take charge” type of guy without being bossy. And maybe you should remind him that you’re not one of his employees, doing so in a nice manner of course.

  212. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    By the way Natasha, did he tell you he was single at first? Because that will all determine how you should feel about the whole situation. I mean if he didn’t say he was single necessarily but it was implied, I’d be a little upset. But if he blatantly lied, then that’s a whole other story. Just like in any other type of relationship with a person, honesty is key. You can be discreet and honest.

  213. Katherine says:

    Kathryn–nice name ;). I’m sure the others will give you more to work with: but I think you already know whether or not you should meet this one. Go with the gut.. from the sounds of it, it’s leaning towards no.
    Plus, I don’t like it when someone is “bossy.” What kind of a relationship is that? :(

  214. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Don’t go Kathryn. This guy sounds a bit sketch, I must say. He cancelled the room in a hotel he had confirmed and given you the info about to move it to another hotel you have no real information about? Hmm, yeah I’m not getting the best vibe here.

  215. Kathryn says:

    Hey y’all! I’m new to the blog, but I have a quick question for all of the SB’s out there:

    I have a pot SD that wants to meet me tomorrow for a dinner date in a city 4.5 hours away. I agreed to drive there (I don’t have work that day), and he agreed to get me a hotel room so that I didn’t have to drive back home immediately after our date. He sent me the room number and the hotel’s phone number to confirm.

    However, today he just sent me another e-mail saying that he has changed my reservation to another hotel. He didn’t give me any room number or hotel information so that I could verify that the room was in my name, etc….just a hotel name (Hilton) and an area. And he insinuated that he would cancel the room reservations if I didn’t call him by a certain time tomorrow.

    We’ve only talked twice on the phone, and he was somewhat bossy then. But I chalked it up to not understanding how to speak to a young lady, as he is used to commanding attention as the head boss at his firm. But this demand seems a bit…strange. And I’ve made it clear that I work/attend class until a certain time every day, and so I will not be able to call him by the time he specified.

    Should I even meet this guy? I don’t know what to think about this. Sugar ladies, please lend me your wisdom on this matter!!

  216. Natasha says:

    weve been seeing eachother for a month but today he told me hes married. today i understood y i dont go to his house. hes shown me all his offices all his accounts everything in the worl he has except his house. today out of nowhere after a night of pleasant loving he tells me hes married but getting a divorce in 30 days

  217. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Haha Henri, sounds like an interesting email. Have fun in Germany!

  218. Sassypantsyo says:

    P.S. Also, please consider a FORUM, that would kickass too! You could make the certain sugar baby threads private for us ladies, so those naughty sugar daddies can’t peek at our girl talk 😉

  219. Sassypantsyo says:

    I think instant messaging would be amazing for the site! I like to chat but get kind of lazy when it comes to actually opening up a chat program like AIM and using it. Congrats on the NYTimes article!

  220. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Oh Natasha tell us more.

  221. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Good morning everyone in Sugarland,
    I am off now for another trip to Germany, only a short one fortunately.
    As an anidote to all the negative experiences I read, here is one to cheer you up.
    Woke up early and could not help having a peek at the SA site.
    Found a nice invitation in my mailbox from a beauty SB in the States.
    Her friend met a guy on SA and they are now happily married.
    She wishes to follow the example and finds my profile interesting.
    I almost fell from my chair with surprise.
    Anyway it will keep me in good cheers standing in the traffic jams today.
    I wish you all many proposals.
    See you later,
    HubbyHenri

  222. Natasha says:

    ladies today i have sugardaddy drama idk what i should do? i met with him today and i found out hes married

  223. raine says:

    G’nite, sugarbabytoday.

  224. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    night SBtoday

  225. raine says:

    Good to know! Again, just got the ball rolling (finally!). Starting with the locals and will work my way up.

  226. Sugarbabytoday says:

    oh well I am outta here I have got to get some sleep just got done rearranging some furniture and I am so not happy with it so I know tomorrow after work I will be rearranging again ugh

  227. Sugarbabytoday says:

    Hey not bad heard back from my sd since our first meeting this weekend. How was your day

  228. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Hello everyone, who’s up tonight?

  229. raine says:

    ^oh dear: that second ‘sent’ should be ‘send’. 😐

  230. raine says:

    I sent out five emails today (six if you count a second I’d sent the same new SD by mistake. Oops. :|). I’ll try to sent the same number at a minimum daily.

  231. raine says:

    Hi, Sugarbabytoday. How’d your day go?

  232. Sugarbabytoday says:

    Hey every one.. two days of posting in a row I am on a role…. lol

  233. Hgirl says:

    Heya sugars- long time no post (sorry!).

    Glad to hear (see?) that things are chugging along well in sugar world. I still haven’t found someone but that’s mostly because I am too busy at this point to respond to potentials (thesis, schoolwork, job blah blah blah) and my computer is acting up so I have limited internet time.

    Come graduation I hope to kick my search into higher gear. I will admit that I am creeped out the the CL killer turned out to be a med student- I’m applying to BU for goodness sakes! Just a reminder to be careful- even if someone “is who they say they are” it STILL doesn’t mean that you can let your guard down because who they say they are can still be no so nice.

    I’m glad we’re all here to watch out for one another :)

  234. saywhat says:

    SuzieQ- nope not the same guy. So maybe this is not that uncommon. Gonna try and find out what’s up.

  235. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Haha yeah raine, I mean if I wanted to see a guy that much a week I’d get a boyfriend, lol. Good luck in resuming your search. :)

  236. raine says:

    Something else I gotta think about. Hmm…which reminds me, I have to resume my search.

  237. raine says:

    Yeah, gnd: too much visit, too little allowance. Gosh…we gotta work, be with family and stuff! *eyeroll*

    Again, the lesser of about 500 evils.

  238. raine says:

    Hi all. Are you kidding me (hee-the name says it all), you’re doing the right thing, being the bigger person.

    [I wonder what crazies I’ll pull out of my hat.]

  239. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Yeah unfortunately Are you kidding me? that is true. But to me if you want to see me at least 3 times a week then I want more than two or three grand a month. I’d want at least $5k or more. Sounds like he’s looking for a girlfriend not a SB to me.

  240. Are you kidding me? says:

    SuzieQ – thanks hun! I’m not going to post his info just to be respectful, not that he deserves it! It does feel like some of the men just see a sugar baby as a cheaper option to seeing escorts frequently.

  241. Are you kidding me? says:

    sweetredhead – It’s not about the money, it’s about the disrespect. He asked me nothing personal about myself, and offered nothing about himself on his profile. This was purely transactional on his side.
    2000 a month is a great offer, but not when it’s just for sex and not when I would have to meet him so often. I also am looking for more than just the financial aspect, and I have to balance a very busy life.

  242. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    saywhat – mine was Canadian (ON) if that helps.

    kidding – LOL! Costco of the escort world! Sorry, your humour is fabulous in the face of such an insult. I think you should send the link…but that’s just my bratty side 😉

  243. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    I would be happy to find an Sd who would offer 2,000 a month 3,000 would be my ideal. ANd a little spoiling thrown in of course. Guess It’s because to me it’s not all about the money and what he can give me financially. But to each his own.

  244. Are you kidding me? says:

    Just needed to vent….

    A man just sent me a message with quite a lot of math in it, I am assuming because he thinks his flashy numbers will distract me.

    Essentially this man tells me I should be happy to get 2000 a month because ‘that’s what a lot of people working 40 hours a week make.’ I should feel lucky that he’s willing to ‘pay’ this, and in return he ‘only’ expects that we will be exclusive. He then tells me he wants to meet at least three times a week.

    So, a lot of people make $12.50 an hour? Because that’s 2000 a month. I make more than that at my part time job.
    Also, three times a week means I would be getting around $165 for each meeting. That’s your average craigslist ‘escort’ not a sugar baby.

    Why do some men seem to think that a sugar baby is just a bulk-buy escort??? Is this the costco of the escort world to these men?

    Don’t even get me started on the fact that I say I only want to meet 2-4 times a MONTH in my profile.

    I am so tempted to send him a message directing him to an escorts site instead. Although he probably wouldn’t be willing to pay as much because of course she isn’t going to be exclusively his.

  245. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    A friend of mine is a married Sb she is married and due to the economy and her children they remain married and live in the same house. But they continue to be friends and he does know what she is doing. I guess each situation and each reason is different. But you don’t know unless you bother to ask :)

  246. saywhat says:

    SuzieQ- just curious, what state was he in? wonder if it’s the same one or if this is fairly common. So it never went anywhere?

    I keep running across this at other sites. What the heck is going on?

  247. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    I think I know the one Saywhat. I talked with him a couple of times by email and that was definitely the impression I got.

    You could always try to suss things out without getting too specific. Maybe ask him something like could he tell you more specifically what type of relationship he has in mind, and that you noticed he is seeking either/or and you wonder if he is looking to have more than one sb at a time.

    Either that or just ask him straight up. I don’t think it should turn him off, especially if you approach it with a slight bit of humour and a curious attitude, “just to clarify…” that sort of thing.

    Good luck!

  248. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Saywhat I read a profile like that too! He’s probably bi and wants the best of both worlds. That’s just my guess.

  249. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Welcome to the blog Edele. :) Yeah we have a great sugar family here. Feel free to leave more comments in the future.

  250. saywhat says:

    Okay SDs and SBs- I have a question for you. This one threw me for a loop.

    A pot SD e-mailed me and I looked at his profile and it says married and seeking sugar baby (male) AND sugar baby (female). Now what the heck does that mean? Is he bi-sexual or just seeking to mentor and help out a guy or will I not know until I ask him. Has anyone come across this yet?

    A little scared to ask him as if it is innocent it might turn him off that I want to know.

  251. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    I’ve read a few profiles from married sd’s stating a preference for a married or attached sb. I suppose it might help to ensure a higher level of discretion for him, since in case things go bad, theoretically she has as much to lose as he does. Or at least that seems to be the reasoning when I read between the lines.

    Personally, had I known sugar dating was an option I may never have gotten married in the first place! I’ve been divorced for years though, so why aren’t the sugar daddies beating a path to my door? :)

    Welcome to the blog Edele!

  252. kitty says:

    OC: ? why wouldn’t you?

    NCGent: I am sorry I have lost my train of thought, I cannot give you a rebuttal 😛

    Firefighter: glad to hear from a different perspective

  253. Edele says:

    Hi everyone,

    I’m pretty new here at SA, joined a few weeks ago. I’ve fallen in love with the blog and all the commenters. You guys seem like such a nice family. :)

    I’m a student looking for a SD on here. I’m also plus-sized…so we’ll see how that goes. I’ve had a few emails, nothing has developed yet though. Just wanted to introduce myself and say hello!

  254. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Yes firefighter I agree. Like I said before, I think there are many factors involved in why people choose to look for some extra sugar in their lives. So different strokes for different folks, sort to say. Personally though, I like a SD who is either single, divorced, or separated. I don’t mind being discreet, but the possibility of a crazed woman coming after me somewhat scares me.

  255. firefighter486014031 says:

    Im a sugar baby… looking for SM. I have to say that the marital status would matter on a case to case basis. People are different and have different reasons for different situations

  256. NC Gent says:

    Kitty — I don’t think it is necessarily more acceptable for the SD to be married, but if I am paying, it is my preference for a single SB.

    Regarding a male SB — you would have to ask one — but when I was in college, I wouldn’t have cared if my SM was single or married, probably would have preferred married so she was less likely to have gotten involved in my life.

  257. firefighter486014031 says:

    Hi sugar Family…. hope all is well today!!! Lets get Seekingarrangement to start us a chatroom !!! This posting to a blog is too slow and time consuming.

    ** basically they will never allow use to a chatroom area because they can’t moneterily monitor the use or people using the chat. Therefore they make less money

  258. kitty says:

    NC: however, why is it more acceptable for SBs to have a married SD? If the tables are completely turned, and a male SB wants a SM (sugar Momma) would it seem less intrusive if she was married?

  259. NC Gent says:

    I have to agree with SG2, as usual. To me, there are plenty of single SBs out there so why would you want to go through the hassle of hiding it from her spouse also. If her spouse knows about it, it just seems odd to me — kind of like hubby is pimping out his wife — just my opinion, and I know that may not be a popular opinion. If she is married, is also seems to me like I am paying to have an affair vs paying for an SB. Just my opinions, I am sure others may differ for various reasons.

  260. kitty says:

    Hello Sugars…
    that was about an hour’s worth of reading there.
    I am glad there are many good sugar news around the community.

  261. luckeecharm says:

    I agree too Victoria as I mean duh I’m sure it’s no difference in reasonings as to why the married SD would like to venture out which it seems to be alot of. It’s just the tables maybe reversed in that instead of having an affair with a low life she prefers a SD. Which as in the SD he prefers to have an affair with a SB if you gon do it why not look forward and not backwards! LOL

  262. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Well, dears, I’m off to gather information in preparation for meeting with my social science workgroup. Take care loves!

  263. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Hey Atalanta, glad all is well with you and your SD aka lover, haha.

    I agree with Vic and BG. There can be various reasons as to why a married SB would want a SD. I think society’s thinking just makes it less acceptable to a lot of SDs because in the traditional sense a man is supposed to take care of his wife financially and emotionally. Hence the traditional vows of matrimony “I promise to honor and cherish you” (or something along those lines). But just because these things are supposed to be present doesn’t mean they always are, as Vic said.

  264. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Victoria~ i totally agree with ya!

  265. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Also, I’m so glad to hear about everyone’s luck these days! It’s so nice to know that friends are prospering. Gives one a warm feeling. ^_^

    SG2, I would assume, as BG said, a married SB wants what we all do, the excitement, money, gifts, and such that she’s unable to get at home. Maybe her marriage has lost its spark, or perhaps her family has found hard times and she needs assistance. Perhaps, she just wants something new. Marriage doesn’t necessarily mean she’s financially stable, loved, taken care of, or happy.

  266. Atalanta says:

    Have fun, SouthernGent2!!!
    I’m sure you’re going to have a wonderful time!

    Interestingly enough, my SD is coming back from Germany to come spend time with me tomorrow and Thursday!

    I think you two are coordinating schedules! haha

  267. Atalanta says:

    I know a lot of you are saying that an SD should never have an SB pay to see him, but I think this is more of an initial thing that NitemareSD is talking about.

    Let’s face it, SBs flake just like SDs, and none of us want to waste our money and efforts on someone who won’t materialize.

    I think that some SDs aren’t looking to for a dependent SB, and they want someone more mature and more stable in their life than a college student, or someone who does not have the means to buy a plane ticket, etc.

    That said, if I do drop money on a plane ticket, I fully expect to be reimbursed upon arrival and that also means seeing the SD.

    Right now, there’s just no way I would buy a plane ticket and hope for the best. If I was more settled and stable, it could definitely be a possibility. And if things don’t work out with the SD, you can always just enjoy the mini-vacation you’ve got :-)

  268. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SG2~ good for you !!! have fun!
    i guess a married SB want excitement, and money, gifts, things she can’t get at home, like SDs i guess!

  269. SouthernGent2 says:

    I guess I will stir things up a bit. Why would a married girl even need a SD? Sorry, but I just could never see myself with a married sb. With that said, I am leaving town now to meet my new single gorgeous coed sb for a day of fun tomorrow.

  270. Victoria ♠302242 ♠ says:

    Allo, darlings! How is my beloved sugar family?

    Being away from the blog for a few days is not, it seems, my best idea. :-(

    On to the blog:
    Are you noticing more sugar daddies? Sugar babies?
    I actually haven’t been searching…it’s the last few weeks of school and I’ve been quite busy with studying. Plus, I’m considering changing my location because I’m going on vacation for the summer. Should I change the location in my profile to where I’ll be this summer? Any opinions would be greatly appreciated!

    Have you ever ran into a Poof Daddy? How do you handle a sugar flake?
    I’ve run into many… I mean, my inbox would be completely dead if it weren’t for Henri (who always makes me smile). I pretty much just move on. The ones that don’t reply are either too busy, not interested, or just missing out. No use fretting over any of that. I did find that not all are flakes just because they take some time to reply. As I said, they may just be too busy to reply right then and there.

    What new features do you want to see most on SA? Better searches? Better mailbox? Instant messaging?
    I must say, I’d love to have an SA calendar! I may be the only woman I know that loves pictures of herself! Instant messaging would be great, as well as advanced search options for SBs for free… 😉

  271. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Nyland & GND ~ i agree as well an SD sounldn’t make an SB pay to go see him!
    GND a few more days Girl!

  272. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Back again from the beach.
    Had an appointment with a business friend on the beach.
    There is a nice cafe’ on it with good cappucino and he can excercise his young dog there.
    I had parked my car along the boulevard and waited for him to arrive.
    You see, I have recently decided to save the world so bought a Hybrid car. He wanted to see it.
    While I was waiting, I saw this nice voluptious lady walking with two small Jack Russel terriers and the doggiess were straining to get to the beach.
    I remarked: yes, it is always a treat for any dog to be taken to the beach. She stopped and chatted me up. It so turned out that she lives close to my house. She explained she is an entrepreneur, single etc. etc. in short the whole profile.
    Then my friend came along, so I said goodbye to her. Half jokingly I said: one day I might ring your bell and we’ll have some coffee and talk some more. Her face lit up. Please do, was the reaction, we hugged.
    Later we saw her on the beach, great wave and big smile to me.
    See ? It is true. Take a dog and catch a doglover.
    And every doglover turns into a smooth operator, it seems.
    Life is like a comic strip to me.
    HenriLouis

  273. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Morning everyone, ah good to hear of all these wonderful successful dates that have been happening. :) Sweetred, I think lunch and a stroll on the beach afterward is perfect. Your right though, sometimes you have to make suggestions to get what you want, and more than likely your SD will appreciate it in the long run.

    Hmm, about married SBs. I see no problem with it as long as the SB is honest about it like NC Gent said.

    Oh and Nyland I agree with you. A SD should never make a SB pay to come see him. I also like when a SD takes the time out of his day to see how I’m doing. Even if it’s just a simple email or text to let me know he was thinking of me, I think it’s really sweet. Hmm, I guess I’m a romantic lol.

  274. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Yes I agree Honesty is VERY important. If you are a married Sb in order to pull it off your Husband MUST know and accept it. And your SD needs to know also.

    I don’t think any Sd’s has a wife that knows. I think a married Sd is more a tune to being discreet

  275. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    I am a little annoyed. He wants to meet at the same place and go back to his house again. Suggested a late lunch and a walk on the beach, waiting for his answer. Time for this Sb to take control lmao. We all know you SD are used to controlling situations. But come on this is a two way relationship. Give me a little sugar SD man lol

    Ok my little venting for the day :)

  276. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead~ Glad your date went well, i’m really happy for you, have fun at the beach

    I think an SB that’s married is fine, don’t see the problem…As long as it’s honest!

  277. Be mine says:

    CC ~ I’m sooooo glad to hear that I was wrong about your potenital SD!! Yippie!!! I hope this is a sign that a new relationship is in the making!!

  278. SuthrnExec says:

    Morning NC – interesting how all the conflicts and issues can be resolved if there is chemistry, open communication and honesty. Hmmmm… :-)

  279. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    I am off to shower. It’s a beautiful day. Maybe lunch at the beach with my SD :) and a walk on the beach, I will have to suggest it :)

  280. NC Gent says:

    I would like to comment on the married SB thing…. I don’t think it is a problem if the married SB as long as the married SB is open about it and doesn’t hide it — how would you feel if you found out your supposedly single SD was really married? I have invested a lot of time, on more than one occasion, only to find out that the single SB was really married…. I make it very clear I am looking for an SB that can travel with me, and when it comes to that, a married SB can’t pull that off unless hubby knows about it, which has never been the case. It just comes down to honesty and not a double standard, in my opinion.

  281. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Stephen, my new SD was brought here by the NYT article. So thank you SA :)

  282. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Last night I reviled more of myself to this Sd then I had planned to. (who by the way hates to be called that lol) He was so easy to talk to. Must be the lawyer in him.

    I think this is going to be a great friendship.

  283. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    *HUGS* and good morning Gail!!

    SweetRed ~ I”ll be the first to admit that I’ll typically jump over the discussions had the night before….you had a sugar date? YEAH! Scheduling a second? I could not think of somebody more deserving of a good man :)

    And thank you for your sweet words. That’s what he says too….I guess that’s what a good relationship is ~ where you both feel lucky to have found the other. It’s a difficult search but when you find him/her, it’s sooooo worth it! 😀

  284. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    SuthrnExec well said as always :) And Good morning to you.

  285. SuthrnExec says:

    Morning Nico, Sweetred, Nyland, Louis. Nyland, fine points you make there.

    Sweetred, I agree – seems like a bit of a double standard to me as well. I don’t think it should matter why someone is on here, married or not – if they find someone with whom they have chemistry and can have a good relationship, great! The world could use a few more happy, satisfied people!

  286. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Good morning Gail.

    Thank you, He was very much a gentleman and we plan to meet again today. We talked for 3 hours straight. I didn’t get home till 2am!! But we didn’t meet until 10:30. He got into town late.

  287. Gail says:

    Good Morning Sugars,

    Henri…nice to see you back…you were missed : ) and so kind of you to help out our SB…I love your heart and whats in it. I am sure that her doggie is enjoying the fruits of your kindness. And that’s what the world needs now. Random acts of kindness to all SBs and SDS…

    How about a designated SD/SB day for our world : ) I am smiling so much about our holiday…What day(s) or week(s) should it be?

    Okay Nyland…I already know everyday is a holiday for your SB…and it should be…but also for you too. I feel how your heart radiates when you speak of her on the blog….WOW…. kinda like the Suthurn and OC chemistry(smile)

    Its a beautiful day today. No need for coffee…I am already on a natural high!!!

    Sweetred…I am happy for you that you had a great date!!! Sbarbabytoy…hang in there…and start diversifying…there are more SD out there : )

  288. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Good morning Nico :) I am so glad for you Nico. You are an amazing woman and deserve and amazing SD he is the lucky one.

  289. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Good morning Sugar Family ~ I agree with Nyland. I must admit, I have an amazing SD and am very very very happy 😀

  290. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    SuthrnExec I think there are more married sugar babies on here than are actually revealed. I think it’s a situation that is very misunderstood. And to not be judged or have questions asked they keep it private.

    What is actually the difference between a married SD and A married SB? Double standard? It’s ok for a SD to be married but not a SB?

    Ok jumping back off my soap box.

  291. sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Good morning sugars.

    HenriLouis my friend you make me laugh :) How are you?

    Just waking up from a late night sugar date.

  292. SuthrnExec says:

    DD, there are a number of married SBs on here – have no idea what the percentage would be, but you certainly are not alone. I would think that there are potSDs that are not scared away by a married SB.

  293. Nyland says:

    Sorry SBtoday that he didn’t give as much as a SD should. Please ladies (and male SBs here) don’t settle for less than what is deserved in these situations. Meaning full paying of way, making sure you get away safely spending money and full paying of tolls, gas, meals etc. My SB lives 1.5 hours away and the minimum I give her just to come have lunch is 250 plus lunch. We try to schedule 10 days in advance. We all understand that people need to cancel but I usually send her a cancellation gift of $100 in amazon money if it happens cause I know she depends on me and I don’t want to stand her up. Just don’t settle for something less than full sugar load :) Of course this is different for most people but I think he could have done better.

    Does your SD ask you “how am I doing” “am I taking care of you well enough” “Is there anything you need” “is there anyway I can talk to you better, treat you better, make you more comfortable” If not then look maybe for somebody that will care for you in the way you deserve.

    Just my thoughts

    Nyland

    Oh Henri welcome back…you are a unique character…a little odd…but you march to the beat of a different drummer…so good for you…love to meet you someday :)

  294. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Hi DD,
    Surely there will be other married ladies in the SB category.
    At least I saw one mentioning it in her profile.
    But if you are married to a good man, he provides for you for sure.
    Why need an SD ?
    The mutual beneficial arrangement is a NO HASSLE situation, I think.
    A pot SD might not be drawn to a married lady, it will bring unease.
    Most wish to unload about their unsatisfactory marriage or beastly kids that they cannot keep in check. Or many other factors like that hubby with the Irish curse. What about the horned hubby emptying his six-shooter on poor SD ? Many of them just vanish on you, must be health reasons.
    Take a dog instead and life becomes meaningful.
    Then there is at least one who is elated when you get home.
    Taking an SD does not alter your married life.
    I would personally recommend a Black Lab. On the other hand an Obama dog might be much more in sync with the times.
    A dog is also a great SB or SD catcher, especially walking a puppy in the park or the beach will lead to many contacts.
    The great Saint Bernard of Clairvaux is known among dog people for his wonderful statement: Love me, love my Dog.
    Yes this is a happy thing to talk about, a Black Lab.
    HenriLouis

  295. Divine Diva says:

    I have been on this site a while now,but no happy things to talk about yet.
    I had met this one person in person,but he turned out to be a big time player.
    many of them just vanish on you.
    are there any married sugar babies on here or am I the only one?

  296. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Hi Gnd,
    As you know, since long you have also been on my favourite list.
    And for the right reasons. I notice a poster of Jimmy Hendrix in the background. We share the same taste in music among others.
    Great to read that your presence brings a smile to your SD.
    Chemistry means “reach out and touch”.
    There are some great exercises to bring you closer to an SD. I know that you don’t mind me demonstrating it for the others.
    You get in contact with a nice pot SD and he will come to you for a meet and greet. You can do this in advance to build up confidence.
    Stand up close your eyes and say my name HENRI.
    Just as in the lyrics by Snoopdog: Say my effing Name.
    Say: Henri. Say it slow and fast and inviting and irritated and beguiling and whisper it etc. Keep eyes closed and listen to your own voice.
    Does it sound sweet ? Now open your eyes and think, do you like me ?
    Is Henri welcome in your emotional world ?
    If the answer is positive, do the next excercise.
    Stand up, close your eys and say: Henri and Gnd.
    Says it loud, say it soft, say it sweet, say it irritated, say it angry, say it jokingly, say it laughing out loud, say it in a whisper, sigh it.
    Say it in any other way you can think of.
    Keep your eyes closed all the time and listen to your own voice.
    At last open your eyes and if you wish to shout loudly YES !!!!!!
    YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    You have prepared yourself mentally for him.
    YES is the most positive word in the language.
    YES celebrates life ! It celebrates you !
    Remember the exercise and try it some day.
    It intensifies feelings of togetherness.
    Don’t we all want that TOGETHER ?!
    My great sense of humour will now break the spell I cast on you.
    Better not do the excercises when the name of the Pot SD is something like Dick. Didn’t I mention once how influential a name is ?
    Shrink Henri

  297. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Aww Henri that was so nice of you. Yes I agree with you (not on the calendar thing lol) but on the fact that the “feel good factor” has alot of appeal for SDs and SBs alike. I like knowing that my presence brought a smile to the face of my SD or that I could help him to relax after a hard day and/or week of work. It’s more than the money, it’s also about that “feel good” feeling.

  298. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Good morning Sugarland,
    Hope everyone will have such a great day as I always have.
    Pleasant to read that in Europe there are so few SDs. I imagine it means that I have the continent almost to myself (humming happily now).
    It is nice to be an idiot …………………… sometimes.
    Like yesterday !
    This is really what I wished to tell you about. In the spirit of the Sugar community feeling, I put many SBs that I know here on my favourite list.
    Now one of them fell on hard times. Job loss, eviction etc.
    When I came back from my business travels I was wading through all those unread e-mails. I always take books along to read and relax instead of constantly being glued to my laptop.
    Found a serious plea for help.
    An SD should be generous, is quite the idea.
    To honour all my SB friends here from my favourite list, I decided to extend her a helping sugar hand, asked for a bank account and wired her $$$$$ enough to keep her best friend in dogfood for an entire life and many happy reincarnations and also herself.
    As it says on my Black Lab calander: Dog people are fiercely Loyal.
    It is nice to be an idiot, feels good that I did so, this sugar gesture.
    Mind you I am not in an arrangement and will never walk her dog or her.
    Come to think of it the “feel good factor” is the essence of SA and it shows up in many of the posts I just read here, safety for the SB and so on.
    Stephan is asking for new ideas and suggestions, so here is one.
    Why don’t we have an SB and/or an SD calander ?????
    It is for the good Sugar world cause.
    By the way, the British really love to take off their clothes to be on a calander, if it is for a good cause.
    That pink Bentley Cabrio tastefully covered by lots uncovered SBs.
    My nicest one would on Fly fishing, very stimulating SBs just in waders !
    You see, I always have a great day !
    Stimulated Henri

  299. Sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Back from my sugar date. He was great and really nice. We had a great time. we are meeting again tomorrow :) Very glad I did go. Off to bed for me I am so tired but happy :)

  300. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    k added you :)

  301. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    lol ok I will

  302. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    GND add me girl!

  303. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    yeah BG I do

  304. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    yeah BG it does… oh and hey firefighter (fire fighters are sexy, rawr lol)

  305. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    GND dont you have msn????

  306. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    GND~ yeah i think so too… it sucks that she paid her way!

  307. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    SBtoday, I don’t like him. I don’t think a SB should have to pay to go see a SD, to me that’s a big part of showing his willingness to provide financially if things do work out. But if a SB does pay, I definitely think she (or he) should be reimbursed by the SD immediately.

  308. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    if you do at hotmail
    i’m lyane1

  309. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    do you have msn?

  310. firefighter486014031 says:

    hahaha nice I hail out of buffalo NY… most people say thats far enough North to be half canadian. I feel bad about your montreal canadians however… if they keep this up… they will be demoted to the buffalo sabres !!! MY GOD they need to get a chat room for us people !!

  311. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Firefighter~ nope…. i live in MONTREAL lol,… but i love the beach, and use to live in LA

  312. firefighter486014031 says:

    Beach girl … seeing your name just makes me jealous… do u live somewhere thats abnormaly warm all year round?? hahah

  313. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    I don’t know about SMs but i’m sure you will find what your looking for we all will, i hope!

  314. firefighter486014031 says:

    Well im totally new to this site… and just figuring out that a sugar mommy is what i need in my life. Its all new to me so reading through these blogs the past 2 days have really helped. I have gotten tons of great info… and its nice to see there are people like myself out there too !!

  315. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    firefighter486014031~ true lots of Sugar out there, we just need to find the REAL ones!

  316. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Sugarbabytoday~nite Girl!

  317. firefighter486014031 says:

    Sugarbabytoday…. just remember… there are a ton more RICH fishes in the sea…. don’t stop for anything less than perfect !!

  318. Sugarbabytoday says:

    I sure will I will do it tomorrow when I know he is away from the wife… thanks for your suggestions. Hopefully the pc will be working tomorrow so I can try and find you on. Talk to you later have a great night

  319. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Sugarbabytoday~ good night, yeah mail him and feel him out and see, if your comfortable then….
    let me know how it goes
    nite

  320. Sugarbabytoday says:

    He hasn’t e-mailed me… things that make you go hmmmmmm lol oh well I guess I should go to bed it is midnight and I have to be up in 6 hours… ahhh

  321. Sugarbabytoday says:

    Yeah I haven’t text messaged him today thinking I should tomorrow just to feel him out
    I guess I should check my e-mail as well maybe he wrote me on there

  322. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Sugarbabytoday~ i agree it’s a little funny that he would have you go all the way there and…. it’s funny and fishy to me

  323. Sugarbabytoday says:

    He paid for the hotel room and the lunch but no gas tolls or anything else. He acted like he was going to bring back some money when i saw him that afternoon but he was never “able” to safely make it out of the house again so about 6pm I gave up and headed home after I took a nap lol. i thought about texting him that I got home safe but I decided not to just to feel him out.. The next day we texted a few times. We had a great chemistry he said so as well so it was all just a little to weird

  324. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Sugarbabytoday~ hum i’m not sure i like the encounter!
    did he pay for your way there? or the hotel room? or was that all out of your pocket? did you send him a mail saying you were home! i would have,,,
    Did you feel chemistry? you can ask him the same

  325. Sugarbabytoday says:

    nor has he discussed the next time we would see one another.. :(

  326. Sugarbabytoday says:

    hey beach girl, well first I got up at 5am and left the house about 6 since he is 2 hours away. We had already discussed what time I was going to be in his neck of the woods since he is married we had to try and keep everything down low. He woke up late I was already in town ended up he was an hour late meeting me. We saw each other for about 3 hours then he said he had to do somethings and watch his child while she went to get his wife went to get her nails done and that we would meet back up got me a hotel room and $30 for lunch and then about 4 hours later said that this was not how he had planned our day since he wanted to spend most of the day just getting to know each other mean to say i didn’t see him at all after he left that morning. He said he would make it up to me and would come to me next but yet never made sure I made it home safe or anything

  327. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Sugarbabytoday~ good for you, why was it disappointing?

  328. raine says:

    Gee…I have no idea.

    I do know that I must go to sleep now. I’d like to think he’s lurking and may drop back in tomorrow. G’nite, folks — sweet, sugary dreams and all that good stuff. Zzz…

  329. Sugarbabytoday says:

    I hope Lisa is alright… I finally had my first meet with an SD, kind of disappointed on how everything went but at least the whole nervous first is over with

  330. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    raine~ he has to come back, is he on the forum?

  331. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    OPOV~ we miss you!!!! Come Back Irish man! :)

  332. raine says:

    I wish OPOV would come back too. Not the same without his words of wisdom and the occasional rant. 😐

  333. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    raine~ you are so right, we need to weed out the fakes to get the real gems!
    hopefully we will all find the right SD

  334. raine says:

    Hi, sugarbabytoday! How are ya?

    It’s okay, Debbie; what BG said. That, and you got off easy — what you experienced was a mere misunderstanding compared to everything else I’ve read…

  335. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Sugarbabytoday~ no i haven’t heard a thing from Lisa, kinda worried about her,,, anybody knows?
    Gail~ did you hear from Lisa??? we want to know

  336. Sugarbabytoday says:

    Has any one heard or seen of Lisa lately?

  337. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Debbie~ we all come across fakes!

    OPOV~ my Irish New Yorker! Where are you???? mail me on SA if your not coming back :(

  338. Debbie says:

    Yes, I have met men from AFF and CL without knowing that much about their backgrounds and they really had no reason to be discreet. Here, because of their high profile or because they are married it’s understandable. My only problem, i.e. like with the jerk from the other day was that he wasn’t a 33 year old who owned two companies and was worth 10 Mil but he was just some punk 18 year old kid who posted a fake profile. I should have known when he texted me instead of called and his texts sounded like what a 15 year old would say….i.e. how r u? Jeez, I feel like such an idiot now

  339. Sugarbabytoday says:

    Hey raine

  340. raine says:

    Hi. Glad everything went smoothly, CC; a few of us were on pins and needles.

    I wish the rest of you luck as well.

  341. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    GND~ BFFs we are! lol :)

  342. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Oh well that’s good to know. One more killer off the streets, ok now I’m having flashbacks back to America’s Most Wanted, lol.

    Yeah I wouldn’t feel that nervous either Debbie, to me it’d be like meeting any other random stranger. I mean because before people become friends or lovers, we’re all strangers in the beginning aren’t we?

  343. Debbie says:

    well they caught the CL killer. He was preying on women who advertised massage services. He was a pre med student. you just never know.

    I wouldn’t feel that nervous meeting someone I knew nothing about in a public place but he would have to disclose much more about himself, ince he trusts me, before I’d be alone with him in a car or hotel room, etc.

  344. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Yes BG you are. *gives you a big hug*

  345. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    girlie, GND~ yeah it’s great to have a circle… Hey we all need help at one time or another
    GND~ i wish i lived close to you , but i’m still your friend :)

  346. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Well Sweetred this is my lil bit of advice. I’d say if you feel good about it go for it. Usually a woman’s instinct is pretty dead on when it comes to guys. Secondly, let someone know where you are and around what time you’ll be back. Oh and enjoy yourself. :)

    BG, SB friends are great. I wish I had one that lived nearby. :(

  347. girlie says:

    Aww, SRH….then who can blame you, girl. haha :) I’ve never gone wrong with a lawyer.

    BG….you are too sweet :)

  348. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Hey Sugars!!
    CC~ i’m from MTL, if you need a SB friend when ever your on a date , we are all here to help! Glad it went well

    Sweetredhead~ aww so sorry he cancelled!

    None of my friends know about me doing this , so as many SB friends as i can have it’s good! But i know i have 4 friends on this site, not that talk about it!

  349. Sweetredhead*269443* says:

    I have been chatting with him for days now. He does happen to be a lawyer lol

  350. girlie says:

    Sweetredhead, be careful girl. I know everyone is quite varied on giving/ getting personal info.

    Aubrey said:

    have met lawyers, politicians, and family men.. all who were okay with revealing their names, websites, contact details, etc.. An intelligent man of today’s world will know, appreciate, and respect how dangerous the world can be.. and that women should never be too careful.

    I’m in agreeance on all counts….lawyers are my fav 😉 none have ever refused when it came time to meet. I realize his comfort level must be taken into account, but so should yours. You mention you don’t know why you are doing it. Would more time chatting help either of you feel more secure?

  351. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Haha sweetred, hopefully your “risk” will pay off….aww thanks girlie. :) Lots of people I meet and talk to seem to think the same thing for some reason, lol.

  352. girlie says:

    Nyland….my GF’s are starting to wonder. I think I’ll be honest with the closest ones :)

    Debbie…..I have a couple of men I see casually who sort of know. Our relationships are non-traditional (for dating or SA) but it works for us and so they accept it.

    CC….good to hear you were safe and had a good first impression.

    Gurl…..you come across as very level headed and interesting. You certainly seem much older than you are.

  353. Sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Good evening sugars. My Pot had to cancel tonight, But we may meet tomorrow depending on his schedule.

    I am breaking all my rules on this one. I have no idea why I am doing it. Just something about him makes me very interested.

    I have no picture, no full name. He says he HAS to keep his identity well hidden because of business and personal commitments. He agrees to meet me publicly for my safety, but he can’t do anything more than that. He has given me a description of himself and apologizing for not being able to give me any other information.

    Hiding behind gulnextdoor waiting to be yelled at……..

  354. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    CC glad the date was a success and dinner tomorrow…wow you must have really impressed him in those 30 minutes lol. Have fun again tomorrow!

  355. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Ahh southerngent2 that is a good question. If he were to find out, which I doubt he ever would considering we live quite some distance from each other (he’s an out of state student at my university), then I’d tell him the truth. I think if I explained to him the fact that this was how my life was before we started dating and why I did this, he’d probably be a bit more understanding. I’m sure he’d want me to give up the sweet, sugar life, but I don’t think he’d leave me if that’s what your asking.

  356. Debbie says:

    Hey CC- cool, glad it went well and hope it continues to go well. Yes, Gurl, I doubt anyone’s boyfriend would want to know that. B.est to keep it on the down low I did just meet a man I liked on a blind date this past Friday. he seemed so enamored of me which I think must be due to the fact that he doesn’t get out often LOL. I actually liked him and hope he e-mails me again. I think if I told him that I have a profile here he’d be shocked. He’s pretty straight.

  357. SouthernGent2 says:

    Gurlnextdoor – what would happen if your bf found out?

  358. CC says:

    Well well we met in a hotel lobby, very crowded, dont worry im not silly i wouldn’t of met him in a hotel room. he was impeccably dressed, apologized for being a few minutes late and is a very good looking man. im assuming he deleted his profile he wants to see how things go with me before looking for another one? we emailed a few times and then spoke on msn as well. I wore a almost knee length babydoll dress, flats and a cropped jacket. i felt slightly underdressed in the most expensive hotel in mtl since I didnt have time to go home and change. conversation was lovely, unfortuately he had to go to toronto for the evening for business, he invited me to come, but i couldnt and wouldnt with someone ive met for 30 minutes. im going for dinner with him tomorow and im quite excited.

  359. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Debbie I have a boyfriend, but I wouldn’t dream of telling him what’s going on. He wouldn’t like the idea of having some other guy give me money, so I’m not gonna tell him. Plus it’s not like we’re getting engaged or married anytime soon, so I don’t see the need to tell him.

  360. Sweetredhead*269443* says:

    NitemareSD Says: Hotel lounges in NYC are fabulous places for attractive SBs from Europe to meet quality NYCSDs

    Now why did I not know this when I was young and lived in New york!!

  361. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Perhaps you should take her to GILT for some champagne… ermmmmm, I mean diluted apple juice. 😉

  362. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    :)

    haha Nitemare.

    Good luck with this one!

  363. NitemareSD says:

    I’ve got a big evening coming up and I don’t want you people throwing me off my game. SD 9 3/4 is on her way.

  364. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    There is no fun in this, raine. It’s all a vast conspiracy between NitemareSD and myself, to lure you to the lobby of the Palace Hotel in NYC, and then whisk you away to his country estate, where you will help me clean up the yard and plant flowers in preparation for the SB tents he will be pitching out back once the weather warms up. You will also have to come to home depot with us to retrieve the fountain, which shall percolate apple juice and cranberry juice, diluted, of course, to save him money.

    Ahhhhhhhhh…. I just could not resist.

  365. Debbie says:

    I have told a few of my close friends who I thought would understand. They were concerned for me but didn’t give me too hard a time. I even jokingly told my mom because my mom is incredibly cool. she started to give me a hard time and then I told her I was kidding :0

    I have told a good male friend of mine and he had no problem with it. My friends who are straight would never understand. Now question is do I tell the guys I am sort of dating now (not sleeping with) but trying to get to know. I believe in total honesty. Do any of you SBs have boyfriends on the side? do they know?

  366. raine says:

    Scoff? Nah, not my style. Fully aware this scourge covers the globe…

    Where’s the fun come in for this again? Oh, wait, this is technically a JOB.

    *ahem* time to resume lurking now.

  367. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Hi Aubrey – I agree whole-heartedly – after writing two extensive research papers on sex trafficking for graduate school, it is most definitely not something to take lightly.

  368. Aubrey says:

    All I am saying is .. have fun, but be cautious .. don’t abandon your common sense. Don’t resume with situations that feel shady.

    And yes, the sex trade/slavery thing is a sad and true reality that occurs worldwide. No need to scoff at this.

  369. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    GND: Pretty good. Enjoying the change of weather. It will be beach time soon. Woohoo. Good luck on your SD date.

  370. raine says:

    Oh, excuse me, almost forgot*…welcome to the blog, ladies.

    *thank you, Aubrey, for squeezing in the sex slavery angle! No sb can be tense enough…

  371. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Hey CSB, yes it has been awhile. I was away for a bit, but now I’m back. :) I’m doing good, how are you?

  372. raine says:

    I mentioned this only in passing to a couple of friends and the co-parent (man, he can’t be more honkin’ clueless!!).

  373. Missy says:

    Hey, I am new here, just trying to get a feel for how this all works. Sounds like it could lead to some wondersul expereinces :)

  374. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    *Waves to the sugar family*

    GND: Been awhile since we’ve been on the blog together. How are you doing hun?

    Welcome Vicky & Aubrey.

    Girlie: I haven’t told any friends but my aunt knows (we’re very close, she’s just 8 years my senior).

  375. Nyland says:

    I couldn’t pay an escort enough to watch me play golf…

  376. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Haha Vicky, I think you have the same misconception alot of my friends have. I was trying to explain the whole concept to one of my close friends the other day and he said “so it’s basically borderline prostitution?” *shakes her head* I think it’s what the media portrays SBs and SDs as being. The SDs being dirty old men who take advantage of helpless and inexperienced women and the SBs as being gold digging whores or helpless young women who feel they have no other way to make ends meet. Neither is correct in my opinion, although you will find some people who fit those descriptions.

  377. SuthrnExec says:

    Nitemare, your Subtlety is amazing…

  378. Nyland says:

    Welcome Vicky.

    Smart…check. Attractive…check. And only dirty after working the gardens of my 10 acre country estate. :)

  379. NitemareSD says:

    Hotel lounges are wonderful places to meet. They are lovely settings comfortably furnished conveniently for conversation without loud music. Hotel patrons and employees are all over the place.

    Hotel lounges in NYC are fabulous places for attractive SBs from Europe to meet quality NYCSDs

  380. Vicky says:

    Oh and thanks for the warm welcome gurlnextdoor :)

  381. Vicky says:

    To be honest I had the picture of dirty old moneybags abusing of young girls who have to sell their body to pay their rent in mind when thinking of a SD/SB relationship. I really thought this was some kind of escort service when i first landed here.
    Turned out I was wrong…smart and attractive people talking openly about what they expect from each other, there´s definitely nothing wrong with that!!

    @sweeteuropean: Maybe we should do some advertising? 😉

  382. Nyland says:

    Aubrey has taken the scare tactics to another level all together. I guarantee you that where I live I can count the number of abductions of young females on one hand within a 100 mile radius in the last year and most of those are by parents. People haven’t been sold into slavery here in the midwest in ohhh maybe 150 years or so. Although one of my former SB wanted to tie me up and make me watch her with her GF…:)

    It is a proven statistical fact that the USA, save for various pockets, is safer across the board for almost every type of crime as it has been in decades. Its one thing to be cautious, aware, and judicious with whom you meet and where. But another thing all together to be a paranoid willy nilly. Im not sure I would want to live in a place where we all have to do background checks on each other before we go out for coffee…

    Just be careful is all we are all saying.

  383. SweetEuropean says:

    Hi Vicky! I understand what you mean about the lack of European men on SA, i’m from France too!

  384. raine says:

    Yay, more paranoia! [dang, forgot my utensils — I guess it’s in hot wing form, right?]

    Ok, um, have I implied haste and/or desperation as of late? Wasn’t my intention…

  385. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Hey OCSugar! I agree with feeling comfortable with someone before you meet them. How quickly or slowly that takes is up to the individual themselves though.

  386. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Welcome to the blog and SA Vicky :)

    How did the comments change your perception of the whole SD/SB thing? Curious minds would like to know…

  387. Vicky says:

    Hello everyone.

    I´m new on this site and I find it amazing so far. I´ve been reading lots of comments on this blog over the last days and I have to say that they changed my perception of that whole SD/SB thing..

    I just wish there were more european gentlemen on SA(I´m from France), and an IM feature would definitely be a plus!!

    Vicky

  388. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Yes Aubrey I agree, and welcome to the blog (I don’t think I’ve seen you before) :)

    I’d never take down my profile before meeting a SD and I don’t know of a SD who would do that either. Emailing, phone conversations, and IMs are nice but nothing replaces the chemistry that can (or can’t be) found when you actually meet.

  389. Aubrey says:

    Ladies, please remember to be careful .. I would never meet up with a man who seemed reluctant to share his personal information. I have met lawyers, politicians, and family men.. all who were okay with revealing their names, websites, contact details, etc.. An intelligent man of today’s world will know, appreciate, and respect how dangerous the world can be.. and that women should never be too careful.

    First meetings- Always tell a friend or leave a note in your room/apartment about where you are going and who you are with. Meet in a well-lit, public place. Never abandon your street smarts or common sense. Do not drink too much on your first meeting. Use your gut instincts. If something does not feel right it probably isn’t. Not telling you to be paranoid, but when a man you are meeting is a complete stranger, do not let your guard down. Get to know him.. use your intuition.. He should want to put you at ease! Unfortunately, there are a few weirdos out there that really ruin it for everyone. And, unfortunately, there are entire black markets for women who have been abducted into sex slavery. So be cautious!

    Have fun, yes. But be safe, yes. A teenage girl going to a hotel to meet some mysterious older man who has taken down his profile just does not sound right.

  390. Nyland says:

    Tell your girlfriend girlie…more for us SD :)

  391. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    My roommate knows I’m on SA girlie. Actually she signed up a few weeks ago, but I think she has the wrong view of the whole SD/SB concept. Oh well, I can tell her about most of my sugar tales, and she keeps tabs on me when I go out on dates, making sure I’m ok and all that.

  392. girlie says:

    My GF just said she read about SA in the newspaper…..assuming she means NYT. She asked if I’ve heard of it :) time to ‘fess up or keep it my little secret?

    I’m curious if everyones friends know. I have a few but only after really being pressed, and one has since joined. Plus, a very close male friend of mine uses the site.

  393. MtDon says:

    NightmareSD:

    RE:

    “… Also the searches are on a single range. If I search 3-5K i probably want 1-3K and uner 1K too just for the heck of it. Give me a way to search for my budget and below, or a self defined range.”

    You can use CTRL/click or Shift/click to select more than one option on the lists in advanced search.

  394. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Haha OCSugar, yes you are a sugar rebel.

  395. SuthrnExec says:

    Yes OC – but YOU were driving! 😉

  396. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Aww raine cheer up, not every SD is a flake or creep. There are good ones out there, and hopefully my SD I’m meeting this Saturday will be one of them. :)

  397. OCSugarBaby says:

    I must be a very BAD SB! I met him in a hotel lobby, within 15 minutes of the first meeting I got into a car with him and I wore jeans not a dress. Did I mention I did not know his last name? ~OC

  398. Debbie says:

    Well my pot SD is married so I can certainly understand why he’d be reluctant to give out that info. So I wrote him and asked him what we need to do to establish a bond of trust between us. I would meet him even if he didn’t provide me with his full name. I think in person it makes more sense for me to bring up my concerns and for him to address them right then and there.

    I am not so much worried about bodily harm, as, like I said, I have been internet dating for a long time. I have done some pretty stupid things in the past and been lucky that I never had any bad outcomes. I do usually e-mail a guy first for a little bit to get a sense of them. With this guy yesterday there were quite a few red flags, I don’t know why I ignored them. I guess I got caught up in the excitement. Now I am slowing down and trying to be more cautious and discerning.

    Raine- sarcasm is my middle name usually so I kinda figured you were being facetious….to a certain extent LOL

  399. raine says:

    Bring me up to speed on the whole process, as it were.

    [I’d explain my sporadic skittishness, but I can’t do that here.]

  400. SouthernGent2 says:

    CC – I hope you listen to some of the advice above. You are working with very little information on your potential sd. DO NOT meet him at a hotel first date. The fact he wants to meet there is not a good indicator for you. Keep things on neutral ground where you can be comfortable. A nice restaurant that attracts a good crowd is the best place to meet first time. As for what to wear, pick out a nice dress of course. Better to slightly overdress for the occasion.

  401. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    raine – don’t allow “cautionary tales” to “bring you down”….. they should “bring you up”, for now you have some tools with which you can improve your experiences and hopefully find someone who is “real”, honest and a gentleman.

  402. raine says:

    In short, one must still expect the unexpected, even after taking extensive notes and doing everything right…am I correct?

  403. Debbie says:

    I’m gonna buy one today Raine LOL. Seriously, I just started at this site but have been internet dating off and on between relationships now for at least 7 years. Hopefully I have fine tuned my instincts and learned a few things

  404. raine says:

    GND, I’d be happier for you if all these cautionary tales hadn’t brought me down (I’d JUST recovered from the Scam Confession posts)! *LE SIGH* well, the tools are here, so I’ll consult them as needed.

  405. NitemareSD says:

    This being SA, give me a way to search for NOT in my area.

    Between X and Y miles FROM my zipcode for example.

  406. NitemareSD says:

    raine Says:

    About the getting acquainted part: what could/should be discussed before that first meeting ensues?

    With regard to to GND comment, discovering before meeting if there is a deal to be made. Find out if the dollars are in the right place on each side. Find out the availability/time commitment potential.

    Don’t ask for or offer to give a BJ.

    ———

    I’d like to see something better than the dollar ranges we have now because they are too broad. Maybe user defined ranges? Also the searches are on a single range. If I search 3-5K i probably want 1-3K and uner 1K too just for the heck of it. Give me a way to search for my budget and below, or a self defined range.

  407. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Raine: Well I personally like to discuss what each person expects out of the arrangement, because if that doesn’t mesh then there’s no point in even really meeting to me.

  408. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    I’ve got to agree that the deleted profile does sound a bit suspicious. For my date this week, we’ve agreed to meet at a local cafe in my city. My roommate knows where I’ll be and if anything goes wrong I know I can text her. Plus the cafe is on a really busy street and it’s not too crowded, but has enough people in it to where I could leave if I needed to.

    Now as to what to wear. I’d wear a cute dress, something flirty but not too sexy and revealing. Then maybe some low heels with it.

  409. raine says:

    About the getting acquainted part: what could/should be discussed before that first meeting ensues?

  410. Nyland says:

    Raine thats pretty funny, there are ways to tell if somebody is lying that are fairly accurate without all the polygraph machinery.

    I havn’t made a habit of providing large personal information profile to pot SB. I don’t even do that for most things. It has worked for me. I think taking it slow, earning each others trust and providing a safe environment has allowed me to gather some SB without them knowing specifically my place and position. They see where I work, know that I can support them and have seen how I treat them and talk with them for weeks and many hours before we are alone.

    Not everybody is on google…but I have 4 or 5 pages and it would make me nervous to give that out even before meeting somebody for the first time. People in the past were not able to check each other out so completely before the advent of things like google, intellus and the internet at large. They went on instincts, trust, and taking it slow. Besides just because he tells you who he is and where he works doesn’t mean that he wont take advantage of you.

  411. raine says:

    ^dang facetiousness flaring up again. Seriously, though, just be careful; using one’s intuition is a step in the right direction, Debbie.

    [A “preview comment” button wouldn’t hurt.]

  412. NC Gent says:

    Hello all! I provide a lot of personal information before I meet — like full name, the website of the company I own, etc. However, I usually communicate with someone for about 1 to 2 months before I meet them in person…. and even then when I meet, it is still a very public place. Despite this, I have had a no-show due to nervousness of the SB, so I understand.

  413. SuthrnExec says:

    Debbie, what if you throw the question out to the potSD and see what he comes back with – something like, “I know you want to be discrete and I respect that desire, but can you share some info with me about you that will make me more comfortable, letting me know you are “real”? That wouldn’t offend me and it would probably open up communication about what would make you comfortable, etc. Bottom line, some will be more forthcoming than others, for whatever reason. All the more reason to always meet in a public place and don’t feel pressured to do anything or go anywhere you don’t feel totally comfortable doing.

  414. Debbie says:

    I understand Nitemare. From a SD point of view that makes sense. I guess I will need to go on my instincts and intuition then which is usually pretty good. but I’ve been thrown for a loop a few times.

  415. NitemareSD says:

    Many SDs won’t provide any personal info. I almost always do not. I also don’t ask for SBs either. Look, many want to able to walk away clean without fear.

    That means you have to meet people that fit your situation. Many SBs would not meet me because of my rules. Many will.

  416. Debbie says:

    Morning everyone. You guys crack me up. Glad I found this blog.

    I agree, the deleted profile sounds suspicious. Although, the weirdo I communicated with yesterday didn’t take down his profile. I thought for sure he would.

    I am so excited. I heard back from a prospective SD this morning. I thought I had lost him to a younger model. He sounds kinda sweet and does want to meet when he gets back to town next week

    I am concerned though. I do want to properly “vet” him but don’t they get offended when you ask for their real name and picture especially if they are married or attached. How do you approach that subject with SDs who are new to the site? I am afraid I will lose him but I guess if they won’t supply that there’s reason to be suspicious. Or do you wait for the first meeting and ask to see I.D. LOL

  417. Nyland says:

    Yea we don’t mean to be all big and scary, its the paternal instincts coming out!

    I had a SB once who took her GF along on the first date…didn’t bother me really, kind of fun. Although they seemed to have a separate body language code where they would look at each other and giggle, or maybe they were just making fun of me…

    But anyways thats another not unusual idea. Although the friend wouldn’t even have to be seen as Nico suggested.

  418. Be mine says:

    Ahhhh the deleted profile!!! Been there done that… I’m betting he is a fraud and will not be showing up with all these wonderful gifts… Hmmm, he’s not from Vegas is he?

    I think having a chatroom & IM feature would be fabulous!!

  419. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Good morning Sugar Family!!

    While I can certainly respect all the discussion with regard to ‘caution’, I must also say, let’s not scare the hell out’a CC but instead arm her with some of the information beneficial to her safety.

    I.e. ~ meeting in a crowded place. Maybe having a friend along to hang at the bar (unbeknown to him), not sharing a car/cab etc (as NM shared), requesting his full name and addy, which can be verified before meeting etc.

    There’s been much discussion about Craigslist lately and anybody who watches the news and is up to date with the current events, and is a true gentleman, will/should understand a SB’s need to be safe.

    *HUGS* CC ~ we are you sugar family and if there’s somebody on the board that lives in your area, I would highly suggest messaging them if you need a ‘back up plan’.

  420. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Thank you, Nitemare.

    Although, the thinly veiled irony in your “compliment” has not escaped me.

  421. NitemareSD says:

    Villa – you look so beautiful today – as every day – and you are worth millions more every time I read your wisdom.

  422. NitemareSD says:

    I just saw a story on another google app on TV. I think they called it Latitude.

    A woman whos purse was stolen (with phone in it) got her sister to track the location and apparently it was recovered.

    Why not have a friend know how to track your location when going on those early SD dates?

  423. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Ooooo! Look, so many gentlemen here this morning ! 😉

    Greetings all…..

    CC – I agree with Nitemare, SE, and Nyland – especially given the recent news – at the very least you should have his real name and verified his identity somehow.

    And Nyland has a good point regarding the declarations that you are ‘worth millions’… poetry aside, that can also be a way to disarm and then manipulate someone, make her feel safe and priceless… then BOOM.

    Just be careful!!! We all want you to have a fun and safe date. :)

  424. firefighter486014031 says:

    I have tried other ‘dating’ sites and have found that the Instant Messanger they offer works nice. Getting to chat with them via the site helps protect and make life a little easier for when you realize a person isn’t who they said they are!! I know that never happens lol

    Have a great day sugar mommys :)

    Bobby

  425. NitemareSD says:

    Right NYland thems da flags – plus we’ve got an inexperienced 18yr old girl here.

  426. Nyland says:

    CC I would trust NM instincts.

    Perhaps caution is the word. How much do you know about this fellow? If he is really interested he wouldn’t mind getting to know you a little better via the other avenues frequently used by SB/SDs

    I guess the red flags are deleting his profile before you two meet and the over the top comments like you are worth millions…maybe you are and maybe he is poetic. But it is a little odd.

    NY

  427. SuthrnExec says:

    Nitemare, you’re right to wave the caution flag – the SDs behavior is suspicious. It could be harmless, however, he may stand CC up or be a total flake if he shows.

  428. NitemareSD says:

    Nyland Says:

    Why did he delete his profile?

    ——–

    I’m thinking he headed back to craig’s place. 😉

    ———

    Any one out there knows OPOV, please hook me up if he’s really gone. Fellow NYer SD! We need to stick together.

  429. NitemareSD says:

    STOP STOP STOP

    Every alarm bell in the universe is ringing here CC!!

    Do not meet this guy anywhere that isn’t crowded and piblic. Do not be alone with him in any way.

    For goodness sake do not get into a car with him.

    If you must go through with the meeting at all – and I question that – use maximum caution.

  430. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Hi Sugars
    CC~ i’d go with what girlie said, i haven’t been on a date in a long time! i’m dreading my first date with an SD.
    Nyland~ i’m sure you can find a few more SBs around to satisfy you fantasies!!!

  431. Nyland says:

    Good for you GND!!!! There go my multiple SB fantasies…drat!!! :) Tell us details please!

    Hi CC im sure you are pretty excited huh…just make sure you are careful and that you have a true chemistry and connection. Why did he delete his profile?

  432. SuthrnExec says:

    CC, congrats! I hope it goes well. I will leave the suggestions of what to wear to the more savvy SBs here – I’m sure they can help you with some great suggestions.

  433. girlie says:

    Good morn, CC. I am certainly not a younger sugar *frowning* but I tend to stick to dresses because they are comfy, cute and flirty. Nothing too short, or revealing or he’ll try to haul you back to that hotel you met in :) kidding aside, I try to dress both for the SD and the place we are dining and hopefully you know that before hand. It’s awful to show up at a restaurant too casual, but I believe being overdressed is always ok. A wrap dress is always pretty and works well for every age. Every girl should have a few!!

    Have fun on your date tonight. Be safe and enjoy!

  434. CC says:

    hi sugars!
    I have a sugar date tonight, my first actually. We are meeting at a hotel lobby then going for dinner, my sd seems quite sweet. I’m not quite sure if we would connect because all he talks about what gifts he got me and how he wants to spoil me and how I am worth millions.etc.
    Being an 18 year old and going on a sd date, he deleted his profile and I cant remember how old he is, I’m not sure what to wear. any suggestions? I don’t want to look like Im going to a job interview or a party. As for the younger sugars what do you usually wear?

  435. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Night everyone, I’m off to bed too since everyone is leaving me it seems.

  436. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead~ night girl!
    GND~ i’m sure you’ll get more excited as the week progresses!

    night i’m off to bed as well too tired!

  437. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Haha I think I’m just feeling lazy BG, because my sugar rush has dissipated

  438. sweetredhead says:

    Have a good night everyone. I am off to bed. Nightmare you know we love you. I was only playing :)

  439. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Nite nite all sugars
    I’m really tired, congrats GND i’m sure it will all work out for you !

  440. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    GND we can always cut and paste lol it’s easy and lazy the way i like lol

  441. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Haha BG good idea

  442. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    GND cut and paste lol

  443. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    maybe ….

  444. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Haha sweetred I like the new name, although I think I’m going to stick to sweetred (getting a bit too sleepy and lazy to keep typing alot lol)

  445. sweetredhead says:

    I really don’t think he is that easily scared. He might have gone to bed.

  446. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead AKA Fire Girl Sassy Red head~ i really think you scared of NitemareSD

  447. sweetredhead says:

    I am good to take shopping, you ask me how you look I am going to tell you. Like it or not lmao

  448. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead AKA Fire Girl Sassy Red head it’s way too long to type in lol

  449. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead AKA Fire Girl… honesty is a good thing

  450. sweetredhead says:

    How about sassyredhead lmao

  451. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    GND~ Saturday woooooo
    good for you

  452. sweetredhead says:

    Not so wise sometimes. I just speak what’s comes to mind lol Not always a good thing.

  453. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Fire Girl that’s what you should call yourself…

  454. sweetredhead says:

    It takes a real man to handle a redhead hehe. Not many are up for that task lmao

  455. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead~ you are the wise one !!! we are intimidated lmao

  456. sweetredhead says:

    Damn I didn’t think I was that intimidating sheeeh

  457. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead~ i need a good puck come on!!!! i’m stuck, im just too curious not GND is in the same boat as me!

  458. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead~ yeah i’m stuck lmao

  459. sweetredhead says:

    poor girl keeps repeating herself

  460. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    BG the date is this Saturday sometime in the afternoon. We’re going to talk about the time and exact place tomorrow since he had to go to sleep. :(

    Haha sweetred I think you scared NMSD off….aww come back Nitemare.

  461. sweetredhead says:

    someone kick beach_girl she is stuck!

  462. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Haha, well BG I’m just as curious as you now. Nitemare tell us what you agree with BG on…please come back to the blog. :)

  463. sweetredhead says:

    aww come on nightmaresd I am only messing with you. I joke :)

  464. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    GND~ when is the date?
    NMSD what do you agree with!!!!

  465. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead~ i think NMSD didn’t like that!

  466. sweetredhead says:

    oh sure NOW he has nothing to say

  467. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Sweetredhead LOL that is funny

  468. sweetredhead says:

    would ya pick an SB already and stop playing around sheeh. Nightmear is right heheh Oh I am a nightmear sb right now hehe

  469. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    GND i think he likes that i need to know !!!! i’m very curious

  470. sweetredhead says:

    nightmear you are a sugar daddy hoe lmao

  471. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Haha, Nitemare I think BG is getting really impatient wondering what you agreed with her on.

  472. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~ i don’t get it!

  473. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~ what is it that you agree with????

  474. NitemareSD says:

    I agree with BG

    If I am right about that SBs worldwide could fly in and run a gauntlet of fine SDs. :)

  475. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Hey everyone, back in.

    Welcome to the blog Debbie. :)

    Ok, so my potential SD and I have planned to meet this Saturday at a local cafe in town. We even talked about an allowance and how many times we’d meet, etc. I’m getting a really good vibe from him, so I’m looking forward to our date. I’ll be sure to update everyone afterward.

  476. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    hummm so 3 SDs in NY

  477. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~you agree with what?

  478. NitemareSD says:

    I agree with BG.

    Also I kind of like that OPOV guy.

    SB9.5 lasted 2 hours and we’ve mapped out a four date strategy to figure out what we are going to do.

    OPOV, NYland and I are in NYC I think. Not a bad little group.

    I am tired. I have 21hrs to pull myself together for the next SB encounter.

  479. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    ok well OPOV!!! just mail me on SA!

  480. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Debbie~ lots of guys are flakes but some are real keep up you’ll find your SD , we all will!

  481. Debbie says:

    I would have googled this guy but all I had was a first name, he wouldn’t tell me any more or send me his off site e-mail addy or picture. Fortunately I had his cell phone number to google. I highly recommend this SBs. I have found some weird stuff on people before. They don’t realize that by posting their cell number on the internet that it comes up in searches. Well he was an idiot for sure even before I found that out.

    Thanks for the feedback Girlie and good night

  482. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    OPOV~ my Irish NewYorker Where are you……..

  483. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    i agree with Girlie!

  484. girlie says:

    Off to bed for me in a sec.

    I can only speak for myself when I say that I Google someone before meeting them. Most everyone appears on Google these days :) Not sure if it is just luck but I have never found anything different than a SD had told me to begin with. I ask questions and I am willing to wait until a SD feels comfy and trusting to answer the questions I have, and need answered, before i meet him.
    I’ve never have never had a SD refuse to send me a pic….I like one early on, more for familiarity than anything.

  485. Debbie says:

    Thanks Girlie!

    I’ve enjoyed reading your comments and everyone elses.

    I was wondering if it’s common for SDs to not want to send you a picture before you meet? Would that be a red flag for most people? Also, how do we know they are actually who they say they are? what kind of “vetting” do most SBs do? or do you just meet and hope for the best?

    sorry to take this sort of off topic but I really appreciate any advice.

  486. girlie says:

    Welcome, Debbie!

    I’m not sure about that exact occurance, but as with all types of “dating” there are some strange people. Generally, there are lots of nice people on this site, so I’d just chalk that up to your first undesireable encounter.

  487. Debbie says:

    hi all-

    I am new to this site and so far find it very interesting.

    I am a 51 y.o. SB. I have been on the site less than a week and am surprised that I have gotten as many e-mails as I have at my age. nice to know that there are SDs out there that appreciate a woman who is experienced and still in decent shape.

    I would also love to see a chat feature on here.

    I had a rather weird experience with one of the SDs that contacted me. He did not have a picture and claimed to be 34 and own 2 businesses. he claimed he didn’t like younger SBs because of the drama and liked older women. then the conversation turned to what he wanted which was lots of sex and no drama. I should have walked away at that point but wanted to see where it went. I told him to call me. Instead of calling,. he texts me and it goes like this “how r u” “what are u doing, want to come over to my hot tub…blah blah blah. I stopped texting him at this point and googled his cell phone number. it took me to a site where he posted an ad for what appeared to be a sex site offering his services 24/7. I should have known that he was a fake because he would not e-mail me off the site or send a picture and just wanted to text.Was a wake up call. Wondering how common this is here.

  488. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    lol
    GND it’s gonna be fine

  489. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Thanks BG, this is so awkward and yet I know it’s necessary.

  490. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Woohoo I think I may have a new SD!!! We’re discussing our arrangement in detail and I think he really wants me to be his SB. *does her happy dance* :)

  491. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    GND good luck
    girlie Hi
    raine have fun IMing

  492. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Yep raine I did, and now me and a potential SD are discussing the arrangement details. Yay, I may have found a decent guy for once. :) *crosses her fingers*

  493. raine says:

    Speaking of IM I just started a couple hours ago…wow, all those emoticons! *lol*

    Good to know you had a good time, gnd.

  494. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Yeah girlie it is. It’s so annoying. But so far I’m really liking this SD, we seem to have quite a bit in common like a love for English football, action flicks about old comic books, and a love for Florida beaches. Unfortunately he’ll be busy when I first move back home for the summer with work. :( So I’m not sure when we’ll get to set up a meeting, but I’m sure it will be sometime soon.

  495. girlie says:

    Hi BG!! I think the sexy pics question is the most aggravating thing. It’s an instant killer, isn’t it?

  496. girlie says:

    Ah, cotton candy. Wonderful stuff, GND.

  497. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Anybody here?????

  498. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    I love to IM my potential SDs :) I just did that today with one for an hour and come to find out he loves European soccer as much as I do. Go figure! He definitely gets major points for that alone in my book. That and having to yet ask me if I have any “sexy pics” or when he can get some. Ugh, those things are such a turnoff.

  499. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Raine yes it drizzled here some on and off, but I was too busy happy eating cotton candy and drinking soda to notice. :) Plus there was this really cool band performing, so I found some new music I like. A good day overall.

  500. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    OPOV~ come back!!!! lol mail me on SA i’ll give you my email

  501. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    OPOV~ my irish friend don’t leave!!!! :(

  502. aj says:

    I have a serious email and sms addiction wrt sugar. I try to stay away from IM…just another thing to get addicted to :) But it’s so fun!

    I must say it is interesting to hear some SD’s views and opinions. (In a good way!)

    Just got home from a staff meeting…glad that is over…vacation tomorrow :)

  503. sweetredhead says:

    And they talk about us SB’s being needy? lol

  504. sweetredhead says:

    I also have the im, emailing and phone addiction with my sd’s lol It can be a full time job lmao

  505. SuthrnExec says:

    Nyland, I think it’s probably not unusual to give 4 hours a day to it – I certainly cannot, but if you two can and enjoy it, who the hell cares? Go for it!

  506. girlie says:

    I’m guilty of IM’ing, emailing and texting with SD’s. I love a little flirting through the day :) I think it’s the only way!

    If you’re happy, NYland, 4 hours is nuthin’!

  507. Nyland says:

    Nitemare your logic is impenetrable as usual… I agree and I HAVE been taken before. I’ve learned to go stepwise and require things as a good back and forth relationship should. I may give a little more than I planned but I’ve gotten some serious sugar too :)

    So how many SBs are you auditioning anyways? We want to know what the

    Does everybody chat with their SB/SD as much as we do.

    I swear I have an addiction to IM. 4 hours again today…:)

  508. girlie says:

    I like the numbering system. I name the men in my life, names I’m too nervous to post here, but it entertains me.

    Am anxious to hear what advice you gave SB11 that made her change her profile.

  509. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Sweet: My mistake. I thought you were seriously asking the question. Always good to lighten the mood though :)

  510. sweetredhead says:

    I know what she meant, I was making a reference to speeding as a joke to lightening the moment.

  511. sweetredhead says:

    I agree there are sharks on both sides. You have to watch out for yourself. Actions speak very loudly but you have to look for those actions.

  512. sweetredhead says:

    LMao you have them names and numbered? you crack me up!

  513. girlie says:

    OPOV….don’t go! I’ve finally clued in you’re male. I kid, I kid. Do stay!

    Craigslist does have some seriously vulgar and graphic posts. I don’t know how that can be censored or moderated but its scary to think what kinds of crazy is lurking there.

  514. NitemareSD says:

    Meanwhile SB11 updated her profile appropriately and that changes the story so I have to figure out how to write it up now.

    SB9.5 is looming.

    And SBmon-whenever is on the horizon.

  515. NitemareSD says:

    I am not so interested in the nyland situation in the specific as in the type. The educational value to the readers is in the general mostly.

    There were ways this could go – 1. String along without intimacy until SD finally catches on, probably before SD goes bust. 2. Out of control SB which could worsen to the point it overwhelms a weak SD, or causes a strong SD to cut the line, or gets better through mentoring.

    Being concerned is not judging. Calling for a careful examination of the situation (with a clear mind) is prudent.

    The fishing whole is repleat with sharks and they have to be avoided and identified – often in that order. 😮

  516. SuthrnExec says:

    I have returned – the NYT article re: craigslist is not about the murders, although it does reference them. It is in the Fashion & Style section – “Recklessly Seeking Sex on Craigslist” and it focuses on the Casual Encounters section of craigslist. Definitely an article about the seedy side of CL.

  517. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    OPOV: we all deal with mod hell from time to time. Don’t leave, you’re a valuable addition to the sugar family.

  518. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Sweetredhead: Lol…Raine was referring to having her comments moderated by the powers that be. That’s what she meant when she made the statement about being “pulled over.” Not that she was speeding. How was your workout? Rollerblading was a blast.

    Nyland: I think you’re a great SD to your sugar babe. She likely came on SA to find someone that will feed her love for designers bags among other reasons. Just because she has expensive tastes, doesn’t mean that she doesn’t have her head on straight. Cutting up some credit cards shows that you’ve indeed been teaching her a thing or two.

  519. sweetredhead says:

    nyland she is just young, We all get into the credit card maxing and we learn from it. SHe has your guidance to help her. She will be fine. She took that first step and cut them all up.

  520. sweetredhead says:

    You are a true pessimist nightmeare. Although I do agree with your wisdom on many things. I think you judge before you actually know something. It always helps to see the whole picture before you can make an assessment.

    Waiting to get my head bit off (holding breath)

  521. NitemareSD says:

    NYland situation seems to be under control. I am not worried for now, the stress tests have been passed by NYlandSB. :)

    The key here is the positive response to the mentoring which was mentioned by others and is the right way to steer the situation.

    Also her reactions make me think she really will come along intimately, or honestly try, and not just string along the benefits while she can.

    This latter is the why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free question. An SD has to be careful about putting out and not getting the (cookies/sugar/nookie/trip through the golden triangle)

    —–

    The problem with using an I’m seems to be they don’t all connect to each other. Thus the argentinians can’t talk to the belgians. An SA IM would ensure everyone here has the technology and be secure as to knowing who you are dealing with.

    All very nice until your wife’s attorney subpeonas the IM logs.

  522. Nyland says:

    OK OK…my chops are officially busted!!! :)

    GND…Im liking you even more with your $5 dollar shirts!!! See young girls like some fancy stuff! Thanks for marginally defending me :)

    I want a condo in the city for 500 large and she wants a $400 hand bag so who is worse?

    This is a process…OK! She has paid off 2 credit cards since she met me and now only has 5 left. I thought she told me 12…I dont know.

    Im trying to impart my financial wisdom and that excessive stuff can clutter your life. She is a smart young lady and I just thought I would give her incentive to cut up some of her cards. I don’t think I am contributing to a purse addiction…well maybe a little. You should have seen her…never have I seen somebody act so quickly to fix a financial problem than her with the carrot of a blah blah blah handbag…5 minutes later after the “deal”…zing here is an attachment in my box. I thought “oh isnt she sweet, a picture of her modeling the latest VS outfits Ive sprung for” But alas it was zoomed in cut up pieces of PLASTIC!!!!….”what the f#@#!!!”

    But I told her about the 2k bag and she said “thats a little excessive dont you think?” Thanks sweetie, thanks for saving me $1600. :p

    So I think we are going in the correct direction. She’s a good girl…be nice to her! :)

    All right Im done.

    We need some forums!!!

  523. sweetredhead says:

    Pulled over? were you speeding? lol. I am confused?

  524. raine says:

    NOT COOL. I indicate I can give some suggestions offline but get pulled over in the process!!! :(

    Back to lurking…any further typing may cost me a decent SD 😐

  525. sweetredhead says:

    If you had t he cooking of a friend of mine, nothing would satisfy you ever again. He used to cater and people would go crazy about his food. His home made BBQ sauce is the best you ever tasted. People always telling him to bottle it. His dream is to open a resturant and call it “the hole in the wall” because the best food comes these little out of the way places.

  526. aj says:

    Just read through the rest of todays posts. Nyland – your posts are cracking me up! And yes, 12 CC is a ton!!!

  527. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Yes, I know there are workarounds, but while we’re writing a wish list that’s my little wish. Details are what make life easier. ie you could just IM via MSN, but it’s so much easier to do it from the site. You could open two windows, but for me it’s so much easier to have both right there on the same page. Another site (*ahem* no names) has this feature and I love it.

  528. aj says:

    Good evening sugars!

    Wrt sugar flakes – yep I had one recently. The only reason I was annoyed was because we texted/talked for a total of 6 weeks, inc. one meeting which he paid for dinner but not for my travel :( I think I spent more money than he did when it was all said and done! In the end I learned a good lesson, and have since had one amazing pot soooo I’m quite happy :)

  529. sweetredhead says:

    just open 2 windows.

  530. raine says:

    SuzieQ [hi.], you mean one has to push ‘back’ on the browser in case they want to reread the profile as they type*? Huh. [*well, that’s what I have to do on my bb, anyway.]

  531. raine says:

    [Drat…ok, two weeks, almost three? Yeah.]

    Not raining there, huh, gnd?

  532. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    SweetRed, I’m with you. Becoming debt-free excites me to no end! A little travel perhaps, and time to relax once in a while, be able to spend more time with family and friends, these are my priorities.

    Oh, and I had another suggestion that I don’t think I’ve seen anyone else mention yet. I’d like a feature that allows us to see the person’s profile as we’re writing an email. On the same page would be ideal, or at least open in a new window. When I’m contacting someone for the first time I like to put some thought into my email and show that I’ve read their profile, so it would be helpful to have the profile right there so I can refer to it while typing.

  533. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Hello everyone just stopping in from the lil party going on outside…ok maybe big party. They have bands playing down there now, but I’m waiting for this guy to come on stage at 6 and for my roommate to get back. So I’m here for now. :)

    Nyland, I somewhat see what your SB is talking about. As I always told my bf, the only overly expensive things I don’t really need, but still wish to acquire is a multicoloured monogram Louis Vuitton purse and a Burberry coat. Once I have those two items, I will be forever content and need no more designer bags or clothing again. My tastes are on the cheaper side anyway, seeing as I love Aeropostale where I can find a nice, fitting tshirt for $5. :)

  534. girlie says:

    Raine, I have a scowl too :) keep strangers at bay usually, doesn’t it?
    Ok, well….I’m in Chicago this week for 3 days, Wed-Friday. We’re booked for events and shows but I need a great restaurant rec. I know Rick Bayless has one there (maybe two), is it any good? I’d really looking for non-chains and can do high end or total hole in the wall, just must have amazing food.

    Thoughts? Anything else I must see?

  535. sweetredhead says:

    I guess because I am older an expensive purse is not what excites me. Paying off all my bills and having money left to buy my kids something they want. Taking a mini vacation. Being able to go to the grocery store and buy what I want and not worry about a budget, Now that excites me.

  536. raine says:

    *waving hand wildly in girlie’s direction* that would be me. Is there something I can answer for you, girlie?

    Good advice, of course, which is why I go about my life wearing a semi-permanent scowl. 😐

  537. raine says:

    Villa: It’s all clear to me now how/when/why you mention the horror stories. I meant I was hungry as in needing food (neglected to eat breakfast).

    As for the desperation, in my case it’s limited to staying employed (and alive of course; I’m my daughter’s sole caretaker): everything else is a hobby or passing interest* (*this sugar journey, to put it mildly? Is a JOB.)

  538. girlie says:

    That is very good advice, indeed.

    Is anyone on the boards from Chicago?

  539. Nyland says:

    Thanks Nitemare for your concern :) I can afford it, were having fun, and she just sent me pictures of the cut up credit card. :)

  540. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Back in the mid-1990s, I spent some time at the FBI Academy, in the behavioural sciences unit, with the persons who track serial killers. People who indulge in such behaviour, usually socio- or psycho-pathic, prey on persons whom are “hungry” or “desperate” or “vulnerable”. So keep that in mind…. desperation feeds fear and can drive recklessness and risky behaviour…. have a strong sense of self, respect your body and your mind and your boundaries, and always, always be careful of those who are out to manipulate and take advantage of you.

    My advice for the day.

  541. raine says:

    Yes, Nyland, what girlie said: although nice, I sense a markdown for said handbag in the not-too-distant future.

  542. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    How do I do what, raine?

    Always be “paranoid”…. better alive and hungry than dead and…. full of maggots :)

  543. raine says:

    Oooh, Villa, how do you do it? I’m too hungry to become paranoid right now, but you understand…[I suppose I’ll peruse that one as well.]

  544. girlie says:

    Suthrn, I think I read of a serial killer also finding victims that way. Craigslist is getting good and bad PR all around.

    NyLand, I must put my two cents in. 12 CC’s is bad and I love that you insist she pay one this month. That’s a great gift!

    But MbyMJ bags are well worth every cent. They last forever. Investing in good accessories is never bad :) Be thankful she chose his lower end line and not his regular line. THAT will give you a heart attack. But before you go off buying…..don’t pick it up unless it’s on sale. Luxury and mid range luxury goods are tanking and you can pick it up for less (and then maybe buy it in two colors….haha)

    And I can FEEL your eye roll, NM.

  545. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Perhaps NylandSD could impart some of his wisdom… that if she pays off her credit card debt and is free and clear of financial obligations which only weigh one down, she will be much happier and better off than if she has a Marc Jacobs satchel.

  546. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Nitemare – NylandSB is young, only 23… hopefully she will learn what is important in life, sooner than later. It certainly is not the latest “it” bag or pair of shoes.

    Back in 2000-2003, I acquired three Hermes kelly bags… a black box calf, a brown crocodile, and a “mini” 20cm black box calf. I felt on top of the world… not one, but three! Which I paid for myself, I would like to add.

    I sold them off in early 2005, in order to finance my year of study abroad in Monaco.

    The memories and experiences I had there, in school and out, are priceless, and I would never trade those for materially possessing three fine purses, ever.

  547. raine says:

    SE: say whaaaa? Oh, man, this I must see.

  548. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    SE – is it the one about the woman who was murdered by a man who responded to her ad on craigslist for massage? If not, check that one out….

  549. SuthrnExec says:

    BTW, there happens to be an article in today’s NYT regarding finding sex on Craigs List – interesting timing…

  550. NitemareSD says:

    Soberly I am quite concerned about the materialism, financial attitude, self image and intimacy issues of NYlandSB.

    This girl is headed for disaster, fending it off for years by riding those she can find to enable her gluttony along the way. Don’t be dragged down by it.

    Its time to examine carefully the boundaries of this relationship.

  551. raine says:

    Okay, I just caught the dozen cc’s part; disturbing. That’s a “can’t buy as much as a pack of gum until the cards are paid off, and not a nanosecond before” situation!

  552. raine says:

    That bag doesn’t look so bad: I half expected 20lbs’ worth of hardware! Regardless of the color she selects, it’ll go with everything.

    How about the ones with dogs, OPOV? I’m not too keen about those either, to be honest…it would be funny, though, if I stumbled onto a SD’s profile whose pic shows him with a cat or two…

  553. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Nyland~ wow if she has 12 credit cards then there is a problem!!! and if she can pay them off with the monthly support!!! wow!
    Its crazy to buy stuff when you can afford them, if they are a gift i guess, but if i had an allowance, no SD so i don’t, i would want to pay off my stuff, buy new clothes but i wouldn’t buy a 350$ purse… just me, but my priorities are a little different i guess!

  554. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Hi everyone,
    Hilarious comments again and had a great laugh reading.
    Stephan, my compliments what a great idea to use the sonnet from the plaque at the foot of Lady Liberty as an opening for this new thread.
    May I add the last line in this variation:
    “I lift my lamp beside the Sugar door”.
    Yes, definitely more SBs have passed through the Sugar door of late and entered the realm of SA. Also most of them are young and fabulous, students or aspiring actresses as mentioned on the opening page of SA.
    This website seems to have been created especially for them.
    Ever run into a flake ? Yes it must have been those aspiring actresses.
    My preference is for those who get angry and start to use swear words.
    Highly entertaining. It is great material for my novel Guilty Pleasures, which is all inspired by the blog. The story is coming on nicely, by the way.
    I might revize the opening page now that I have read about strip chess.
    Surprising combination of intellect and lust.
    Speaking of compliments here on SA.
    The best I got was “European men are so much more virile “.
    Hummmmm, spot on lady ! Let me show you my CCW.
    Life is like a comic strip to me.
    To be honest: accepting a compliment graciously has got everything to do with that “relationship with yourself”.
    Am I comfortable in the relationship with myself ? Yes I am.
    Now please SBs look in the mirror and put that question to yourself.
    Your relationship with an SD would take great strides if you did.
    Feeling and growth in a relationship make for a better sugar world.
    As to any new technical features for the website, lots of experts have had their say.
    I am still a jolly digimoron and I really do not wish to become so dexterous. The more I know about it the more time I will spend behind the screen, I fear. I’d rather spend time outdoors.
    So please surprise me with all those new fangled possibilities.
    Hope your Sunday was as colourful as mine,
    HenriLouis

  555. Nyland says:

    hmmm this is vaguely sounding like a conversation I have with my daughter

  556. Nyland says:

    I told her I would buy the bag if she paid off one of her 12 credit cards with this months support…

  557. Nyland says:

    HAHA…Suthrn thats freakin hilarious…I will never get the LV or Gucci thing anyways. Why does a 23 yo need 15 purses anyways that cost more than my first car? Cause their freeeeee!!!!

  558. raine says:

    Oh, right. [I didn’t know I can still email, though.] I just changed it so much it’s hardly recognizable now, and I still have to come up with two more pics! Grrr…

    Yes, Nyland, you’re lucky. [Personally, if a designer doesn’t have a plus-size line on tap, I won’t even bother with their accessories.]

  559. SuthrnExec says:

    Make that a search option – “Find all profiles with pictures taken with animals”

  560. OPOV says:

    Little rant time…(if you’ll allow me)

    there is no need to post a picture holding your cat! We get it. We don’t need any cute visual references.

    I swear, I place these people on ignore if and when they message me.

  561. SuthrnExec says:

    Must be the bastard half brother of Louis Vuitton… Jacobs is not nearly as expensive as Vuitton, so be glad.

  562. NitemareSD says:

    How much for the wallet and water bottle accessories sold separately?

  563. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    It’s a designer!
    that’s why it’s so expensive

  564. OPOV says:

    Hi raine…

    you know you can still search, bookmark and email someone even while your profile is waiting approval

  565. Nyland says:

    Who is this Marc Jacobs and how does he get off charging $350 for a purse that holds a wallet and a small water bottle!

  566. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Nyland If i knew, go to Marc Jacobs online you can maybe find it there!

  567. raine says:

    Hi. At work right now; if it weren’t for that, I’d be pacing the floor wondering when my profile will be approved! I’m SO behind on my search right now…ugh.

  568. SuthrnExec says:

    Nyland, it’s a satchel – buy her two or three.

  569. Nyland says:

    ha ha, yes. I would always say “well I could cook that!!!”

    And I like to drive…But I feel your pain LOL :)

    My SB just told me she wants a Marc By Marc Jacobs classic Q baby Groovee Satchel

    What the hell is that????

  570. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Nyland~ It’s hard i guess to find good help! me, the maid, the lawn person and the cook is slacking, well since it’s me i’m slacking lol
    SuthrnExec ~ i was a driver for this guy not long ago and wow it was the most boring job ever!!! he got mad at me because i was going the speed limit?? ah well,,,
    wishing you guys all the luck ….

  571. SuthrnExec says:

    I here you Nyland – a good chef is hard to find – in these parts, a good driver that will stick with the job is hard to find as well…

  572. SuthrnExec says:

    I’m doing well – you guys enjoy your workout – I’m going to give blood in a bit at a local blood-drive. Worked out first thing this morning. Adios!

  573. Nyland says:

    I fired my yard service, fired the chef thrice, and the maids are on borrowed time. :) Why cant they just learn that I expect excellence or at least no dead grass or banal dinners one after another.

  574. sweetredhead says:

    I am off too, Have to work out myself and if the pool ever warms up today take a swim.

    Have a wonderful day everyone

  575. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Villa: Yeah, rollerblading is definitely fun and a really good workout.

    Have a good day sugars. Off to exercise now.

  576. sweetredhead says:

    Hi SuthrnExec, thank you. I am looking :)

    How is your day going so far? well except for your lawn service not showing up

  577. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Have a great afternoon, everyone. I’m off to the gym …. x

  578. SuthrnExec says:

    Greetings everyone! Sweet – sorry to hear about your job – or lack thereof. Good luck in your search!

    Nitemare – send you lawn mower service over here – mine hasn’t shown up yet and the yard needs mowing!

  579. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    CSB! I LOVE rollerblading. I went last week, M-W-F, 25 miles each day. It is GREAT exercise! Have fun! It’s raining here today or I would go again.

  580. sweetredhead says:

    Me too. My Pot works out everyday, swims is very athletic, I need to get in shape to keep up with him lol

  581. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Interesting conversation going on in here.

    Sweetredhead: I’m being lazy this afternoon too but I must go rollerblading while the sun is shining today. Must whip my butt back into shape for the summer :)

  582. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Diluted apple and cranberry juice… perfect. Why didn’t I think of that.

  583. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~ you are on a role Dude!

  584. sweetredhead says:

    Typical man lmao.

    Hi GAil!! you can clean my house too if you want. I am being lazy today

  585. NitemareSD says:

    Forget champagne, we will use apple juice and dilute it some.

    I have a lawn mower guy service. Flowers and plantings need work.

    As far as the date, I can’t remember any more. It went poof when the next chick sent an sms

  586. Gail says:

    Lol….I am finally here…laundry took precedence over the computer this morning…and later the rest of house to clean up…yuck….maybe I’ll just sit and relax for awhile…I am in lurk mode for now….

  587. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    sweetred – yuck! especially if there is champagne flowing from the fountain, it would be a similar colour. definitely would be difficult to DRINK from umm… that part of the sculpture. and most definitely no PINK champagne. ahahah

  588. sweetredhead says:

    Should we leave the room and let you two be alone? lol

  589. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Thanks, Nitemare, I appreciate the compliment :)

    I do actually love to rake leaves, cut the grass, etc. Good exercise. We’ll have your lawn ready for the SB tents in no time.

  590. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~ how was the date?

  591. NitemareSD says:

    Everybody pays one way or another.

    Villa, we need to get things in shape for the season. How soon can you be here?

    Btw did I mention you look beautiful today (and every day) 😮

  592. sweetredhead says:

    Or buy one of those one where the water comes out of the private area and we won’t want to drink it lmao

  593. sweetredhead says:

    careful he may make you pay for it too lmao

  594. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Cool. All the fountains will be on sale, too, for spring! :)

  595. sweetredhead says:

    Would you not love to find out who his Pot was and ask her what she though about HIM? LMAO

  596. NitemareSD says:

    Villa, show some leg and flag down a pickup and well hitch up to Home Depot and buy a fountain.

  597. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    If he supplies the Armand de Brignac, in lieu of water, we will all be so dehydrated no toilet will be necessary!

  598. sweetredhead says:

    we will be lucky if he supply’s a toilet lmao

  599. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Nitemare – will you be supplying Armand de Brignac in the back yard as well? Perhaps a constant revolving flow in a fountain, so we can take a few sips as thirst warrants?

  600. girlie says:

    I’ve never seen it like that and it makes total sense. I feel silly that it’s never occured to me…lol.

    NM….you know we are dying to hear the story, right? Stop tempting us with little lines and get writing :)

  601. NitemareSD says:

    Did I mention I can be found at live ? 😉

  602. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    I agree, OC. The analogy of a compliment to a “gift” is a good one… as if someone offered you a beautiful rose, bottle of parfum, etc, would you turn it down and say, no, i’m not worth that… a compliment is the same, a gift. Accept it and be happy that someone appreciates a facet of you, even if you do not ‘see it’ yourself!

  603. sweetredhead says:

    LMAO@NitemareSD Our new SD pimp daddy..

  604. NitemareSD says:

    You can say fuck here? Can you say bitch? I may need that one for the story later.

    For you victims of the depression, the weather is getting warmer in this region and I am pitching tents in the back yard.

    There is no charge for camping out and if you need pocket money you can spend a night in the master bedroom.

  605. OCSugarBaby says:

    Villa! I loved that. Undermining our self confidence is bad. Enough things happen around us that doing it to ourselves is not good.

    That would be like saying to your SD, that you are not worthy of spoiling or gifts. That would be a huge SHAME! I happen to love compliments and give a BIG smile back and graciously say “Thank-You that is so kind of you to notice (or say). It took years to train myself to do that, but once you keep it up it becomes second nature. You will begin to feel sincere and more confidant with each occurrence! :)

  606. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    OCSugarBaby~ read the book easyway to stop smoking actually worked!!!!!
    and it’s not hard right now at all

  607. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead~ All the tall SDs out there I’m HERE!!! lol

  608. sweetredhead says:

    Very good advice :)

  609. OCSugarBaby says:

    BeachGirl: I am SO proud of you for not smoking! One day at a time, you can DO it. :)

    SweetRed: That sucks :( Keep looking, you will find an even better job! :)

  610. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Hey all – I found this, regarding compliments…. some good suggestions! :)

    Think of the good we might do ourselves by easily accepting every compliment that’s offered us, even if we’re not entirely sure the person complimenting us is totally earnest. Instead of undermining our self-confidence, we would feed it. Instead of denigrating our achievements, we would promote them. And instead of tearing down relationships, we would strengthen them. A compliment is, after all, a kind of gift, and turning down a gift insults the person giving it, suggesting that you don’t value them as highly as they value (soon to be “valued”) you.

  611. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead~ yeah i know what the fuck???

  612. sweetredhead says:

    That’s right, no one wants an insecure man :) That’s a big turn off for me.

  613. girlie says:

    BG…..too tall? I love when a man can be secure and accept that in the highest of heels I may be taller. Their loss, you’re a beauty.

  614. sweetredhead says:

    Hi Beach_girl!! sorry to hear that. You will find your Sd don’t give up hope :)

  615. sweetredhead says:

    That’s great OC. Love my new place. But unfortunately I got laid off. It’s bad here in Florida. They haired to many people and I am not one of the kiss asses so…..Oh well off to the job market once again.

    Thank you Nyland :) It’s ok I am much better at taking a compliment that I once was :)

  616. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Hi Sugars!!!
    GND ~ have fun at the party
    NYland~ true that women don’t like to be told too much, that they are beautiful, but once in a while it’s nice….
    Sent out a few mails yesterday, got 2 rejection e-mails, at least they were nice enough to reply..Again i’m too far, too tall, :(
    but hey i’m a non smoker now so YAY for me

  617. OCSugarBaby says:

    SweetRed: I am fabulous! Nice to see you blog’ing again. How is work going? All settled in to you new place? I am still unpacking boxes, but love my new digs. :)

  618. girlie says:

    NYland, that is really common in women. We get a compliment and downplay it as fast as possible with something we don’t like. Its harder to just say “thank you” and leave it at that. A beautiful GF of mine admits to doing it for every little thing. When complimented on a dress, she says “this years dress in last years body”.

    A very important man in my life has said, in no uncertain terms, that if I keep doing it myself, he’ll haul me to a mirror and discuss my finer points over and over, until he decides I’ve gotten it. Needless to say, I’m trying :)

    Best of luck, sweetredhead. So exciting!

  619. Nyland says:

    Thanks sweetredhead. I love red hair very much as well, Im sure you are very beautiful…oops sorry :)

    Does anybody know where Lisa went to?

  620. NitemareSD says:

    This Story is Pending Developments – Please Check Back in 24 Hours.

  621. sweetredhead says:

    Good morning OC! Great to see you :) How have you been?

  622. OCSugarBaby says:

    Good Morning SweetRed! You’re back! Now if we could only get Gail back today we will have a SB reunion.

    Nitemare: I am waiting for your post of 11pm SB story. :)

  623. sweetredhead says:

    I am meeting a pot on Monday night. We have been talking for awhile now. Wish me luck. He sounds great :)

  624. sweetredhead says:

    What happen your date last night NitemareSD ?

  625. sweetredhead says:

    Anytime nyland just message me on sa and I will give you my email :)

  626. sweetredhead says:

    I have been told how beautiful I was all my life. Especially because of my hair. People stop me on the street to compliment me on my hair. Even after all these years it still embarrasses me

  627. sweetredhead says:

    LOL she sounds just like me, she does not know how to take a compliment and it makes her uncomfortable.

  628. NitemareSD says:

    you might be needing another girl 😉

  629. Nyland says:

    Not sure how I would play strip poker, maybe one article of clothing per piece lost or base it on a per points method :) Or a big show when I win.

    Thanks redhead for the offer of personal schooling…I might take u up on that one :)

    Not telling a girl she is beautiful is a different one although maybe in my context it makes sense…I say shes beautiful she says she needs to lose weight I say shes pretty she says she has a fat butt (shes a size 4 for crying out loud) I say she has a lovely face and she says her nose is too big! I cant win…and it goes round and round!!! So maybe ill just shut up about that for a while.

  630. sweetredhead says:

    ok this got all messed up. is this posting?

  631. girlie says:

    Oops, didn’t know I couldn’t post a direct link.

    en.gravatar with no www before it.

  632. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Well everyone gotta go get ready for a summer themed party my dorm is throwing. I’ll blog later.

  633. NitemareSD says:

    When you lose a hand I will break into a giant grin. Sounds mutually beneficial to me.

  634. girlie says:

    Strip Poker sounds so much cooler. Unfortunately, in my case, my emotions are shown all over my fave. When I get good cards I break into a giant grin, followed by a giggling. Lost cause.

  635. sweetredhead*269443@ says:

    Awww thank you. Used to hate my hair color wanted anything else but redhead when I was younger. But I love it now. Wisdom comes with age :)

    LMAO@ChocolateSnowBunny you go girl :)

  636. girlie says:

    Gurl…..strip chess, strip GoFish, strip Scrabble. It all goes over well.

  637. sweetredhead*269443@ says:

    I would be more into strip poker lol.

  638. girlie says:

    Sweetredhead: I’d kill for your hair color. I did dark red for years and love the glam feel. Everytime I see your avatar I’m so envious!

  639. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    OPOV: Let me guess, you lean on the sub side. 😉

    Nyland: I prefer the SD to make the decisions in the beginning provided he knows what I enjoy. It shows his level of interest and creative side which is very important in the early stages. After that, two heads are better than one.

    NitemareSD: The SBs are still accepting sponsors for the NYC trip. :)

  640. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Haha girlie, strip chess??? sounds like fun if it were with the right person 😉

  641. girlie says:

    One more thing: if she is open to it, I find lots of interaction outside of your in person time helps, if your personal circumstance allows for it. Phone, email, text.

  642. sweetredhead*269443@ says:

    I think someone mentioned how to look up a profile by number. You can. Look at anyone’s profile. In the address bar there is a number on the end. Take that out and replace with the profile number you want to look up.

  643. girlie says:

    NM, I can’t wait to hear what she did.

    NYland, much the same as GND, the lack of pressure actually does the opposite for me, it makes me want. It’s lovely that you are so into making her comfortable and it sounds like you are doing everything you can. Happy SB means very happy Daddy. Ask her if she minds you taking the lead. Some girls really don’t, prefering to say exaclty what they want.
    I find it prefereable when a SD does, I love when I don’t have to think about anything other than enjoying being together.

    Strip chess!!

  644. sweetredhead*269443@ says:

    NitemareSD message me on sa I will give you my email and I can fill you in, if you would like.

  645. sweetredhead*269443@ says:

    NitemareSD It hasn’t died out just postponed. We are also planning a Florida trip. Stay tuned :)

  646. sweetredhead*269443@ says:

    Good morning everyone.

    Nyland an answer to your question “how to make a shy girl more comfortable” I am very shy at first. The easiest way to make me comfortable is make me laugh. Don’t keep telling me I am beautiful, makes me uncomfortable. make conversation a 2 sided interaction, something she can respond to. She will forget about her shyness. Take her to places like the beach, park something in a comfortable setting where she can be herself. Not be dressed up and worry am I using the right fork (I think you know what I mean)

    Not knowing her I can’t tell you how to make her personally comfortable. I would like to help. If you would like to talk off blog let me know.

  647. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    RaeAn that’s a good idea. I’ve talked to other SBs who would like to date a couple. It’s not usually my cup of tea although I’ve had an offer from a couple before. But good luck on finding one.

    Awww Nyland thanks, as I said before your SB is really lucky. :) Now how to make her feel more comfortable. Well I’m pretty shy when it comes to being alone with a guy, although most people probably couldn’t tell that from first meeting me. So for me, feeling like I’m not being pressured to do anything goes a long way in making me feel more comfortable. I say to keep doing what your doing and she’ll keep feeling more and more comfortable with you. Like the old saying goes, if it’s not broke why fix it? 😉

  648. NitemareSD says:

    Interesting, Sat @ 11 is revising her profile. I mentioned to her she needed to 😉 Let’s see what happens…

  649. NitemareSD says:

    sweetredhead *269443* Says:

    Maybe we all should just find someone here on the blog.

    There was talk about the girls coming to NYC but that died out. :(

  650. RaeAn says:

    Not to interrupt the flow of the fantastic conversation going on, but along the lines of the “what improvements would you like?” vein, I’d love if there were a way to search out couples. I’ve only seen one among my normal search parameters, but I haven’t had a chance to go through them *all*. I’ve got a slight preference for Sugar Mommies over Sugar Daddies, but there are only 6 (!!! sad, huh?) within the three closest states (and two of them aren’t within a reasonable driving distance, so only 4, really). There are over a thousand men who show up in my searches, though, and sprinkled among them, I sometimes find a couple–I’d love to find more, if they exist, but there’s no way within the search parameters to seek them out. I’ve loved dating couples in the past, but there’s no way to find them other than luck of the draw and stumbling on them in the search!

  651. Nyland says:

    Not forgotten…perhaps a little low on her priority list like after feeding the cat and taking out the garbage :) Shall I say NOT a keeper.

  652. NitemareSD says:

    Girls, please, if I had standards there would be no good stories…

    Like the girl who txt today at lunch time she would call me in half an hour, then over the next 5 hrs txt 3 times she hadn’t forgotten about me.

    She hasn’t called yet. Should I feel forgotten anyway?

  653. Nyland says:

    Gurl…u sound like a sweetheart, too bad my heart and etrade account can only handle one SB…maybe if my Ford stock takes off…hmmmmmm 😉

    Sorry to all those SB who get prop for nookie on the first date…schoolboys all. Personally Id be a tad bit embarassed to do that and not sure id want to be with such an “accomidating” girl anyways…I have worked hard in life and there is a thrill in the hunt!

    So I have an overnight date next week. Dinner, shopping, maybe golf, shooting range ( my SB has a CCW!!!) Movie… She is interested in The Melting Pot or a very nice Japanese place set in an old mansion. I/she likes Chess too so maybe well get all lathered up with a hot game back at the hotel 😉

    Questions for all the SB here: Do u like the SD to take the strong lead and just tell u what the date entails (considering he knows what u like)
    Or do u like him to ask what do u want to do.

    And what’s the best way to get a shy girl to be more comfortable alone with her SD? Its getting better and she emails she had a wonderful time…I also am at my gentleman best, just wonder if there are tips to help her feel more comfortable in an intimate setting?

    Thanks for such a fun blog!!!!

    Nyland

  654. Beach_Girl* says:

    sweetredhead~ i wanted to know about the right questions

  655. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    I agree Sweetred, I actually prefer long distance relationships since it helps to keep things more NSA. By the way, to all the SDs here still looking for a SB, I’m still available. :)

  656. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    That’.s my 2 cents for the night. Good night all. sweet sugar dreams.

  657. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    I met my Sd on the blog so did a few others. And BTW long distance relationship can work :)

  658. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    nitemare you are a sync lol. Maybe your looking for pot Sd’s with the wrong head. LMAO Sorry. Just seems like I see all these girls here on the blog who seem smart and intelligent and they can’t find a SD. And you Sd’s are going on dates and coming back here telling us they are flakes. Same with the SB’s Maybe we all should just find someone here on the blog. It worked for me and It has worked for others. really think about it :)

  659. NitemareSD says:

    Well she came back from the bathroom but I wish she didn’t. Tonight was a doozy. I will write it up later.

    Well I broke even tonight. 50% attendance. Par for the course, blah blah blah. 😉

  660. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    lol that’s cool, i’m sure it will all work out for you
    you deserve it!

  661. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Hmm yes so it seems. But only time itself can truly tell if the tale I see is really just a mere illusion. Haha, sorry felt like being poetic for a bit.

  662. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    GND it does good for you girl!

  663. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Well good luck in your search BG. May you find the sugar you desire, lol.

    Ooo the potential SD I’m talking to just gave me his number. Ah, this seems promising. :)

  664. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    GND~ i just started again! today actually soo…..

  665. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Thanks BG, I hope you find the right SD for you too soon. :)

    Who else is up?

  666. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    GND~ i hope it’s the right SD for you *fingers crossed*

  667. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead~ you are right about that one! yes i got your mail and replied to you

  668. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Thanks girlie, yeah I know the right SD is out there for me somewhere. It’d just be nice if he would hurry up, lol. No but I just got this email from this very nice man. We’ve been emailing each other back and forth all night and he seems to understand what I’m looking for and the hurdles of finding the right fit, sort to say. So maybe he’s it. :) Keeping my fingers crossed

  669. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    LMAO so many like that. Alot of man are just high school boys in adults bodies. Then you have the older men who want to relive those days lmao

  670. girlie says:

    Oh and gurlnextdoor, you are beautiful! Keep at it.

  671. girlie says:

    So very true. In the planning stages of a meeting one recently asked “Is there any chance I will get laid on this meeting?” I said “nope, not a chance and with that, I am not the girl for you”. I’ve been aked before but this one was so…..so….high school boy who just discovered his dick.

  672. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    I emailed you beach_girl did you get it?

  673. Beach_Girl* says:

    sweetredhead~ thank you yes you got mail too!

  674. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    I always ask…What kind of relationship are you looking for. The number one answer I get.
    I want to get what my wife doesn’t give me at home.

  675. Beach_Girl* says:

    sweetredhead~ seriously i might need your help if you don’t mind me asking you all the right questions to ask!!!! i had an SD for 15 years and i didn’t negotiate anything if you want to mail me that would be awesome so we can stay on topic here on the blog!

  676. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    Beach_Girl you have mail

  677. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Yeah I know, and what kills me is that in his email he said “I know you said that if your in it just for the sex to move on.” But then he had the audacity to ask me that and get mad when I said no. *sigh* It’s sad, but hey I’m talking to two more potentials so I found two guys to replace the one asshole. :) Karma is good.

  678. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    You would be surprised at how many many actually think that on here.

  679. Beach_Girl* says:

    lol GND ass hole i swear, why would they think that we’d want to jump into bed right away without knowing them…. hello not an ESCORT

  680. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Yeah BG it did suck. But I was in my dorm so it didn’t matter. I think he disappeared after he emailed me asking if we could get intimate after lunch if things went well and I said no to him. I was calling him this morning to confirm our date and he didn’t answer my phone calls. So as I said before, his loss. :)

  681. stephan says:

    Gail,

    Beautiful song, and there’s nothing wrong with a little sentiment here and there.

  682. Beach_Girl* says:

    gurlnextdoor~ sucks that the guy didn’t show up, i had that happen to me as well…. but at least i wasn’t far from home

  683. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Night OCSugar and hey to everyone that is up.

  684. OCSugarBaby says:

    Nite Everyone! I am pooped, gonna get some beauty rest. Sweet sugar dreams. :)

    SuzieQ: I have a good feeling that he will come thru :)

  685. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Haha, I read over everything and hmm I have some comments of my own. :)

    I am in college and I don’t have a problem going to visit a SD in another city. I am also courteous enough to not waste his money, by not showing up. If I get there and we don’t click then I make the most of it. I mean who knows maybe I can leave with a new friend, even if it’s not a sugar daddy. Guess I’m just an optimist.

    Secondly, I agree there are as many flakey SBs out there as SDs. I just got stood up today by my potential SD. We were supposed to meet for lunch but he never showed up. :( Oh well, it’s his loss. In the meantime I’m talking to two potential SDs at the moment and seeing how things will work out with those two.

  686. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    OC, CSB, thanks for the encouragement. Nitemare seems to be of a different opinion but I’m far too gullible for such a dry sense of humour as he has! *waves to Nitemare*

    I haven’t been putting a lot of effort into my search since I started talking with this one about a month ago. But that’s just me…I’m busy and I don’t need too much more to juggle. (Oops, almost typed jiggle LOL!) I’m definitely not out of the game though, and my profile is still up. If it doesn’t work out, or he doesn’t come through, I will definitely jump back in.

  687. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    I Submissive man? A gentleman yes, But someone who wants me to control him? ughhhh. I would be so turned off by that. AND I AM A REDHEAD!! LMAO

  688. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Girlie: Definitely not all BDSM is bad :) but in the first email, I don’t think so.

    SuzieQ: Good luck with your pot SD. Hopefully you guys can reschedule for sometime in the near future.

  689. OCSugarBaby says:

    Suzie: I am sure he will make contact to reschedule. Things do come up.
    Have you continued to search or are you just concentrating on this one SD?

  690. OPOV says:

    CSB, no root canal? Then you don’t know what you are missing. You ain’t lived until you’ve had all these needles digging in your gum

    As to your sd BDSM, I think you will find him asking about whether or not you are a domme or have a domme personality. In most BDSM scenes, it is usually the male who is the sub and the female the domme. And in these situations, it kinda makes sense because a good number of sd’s are a-types, high strung and always in control. The BDSM lifestyle allows him to surrender, something he can’t do in his day life.

  691. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Yeah, no sugar for me yet OC :( He had a family emergency and had to postpone our meeting. He is supposed to contact me early next week to talk about rescheduling.

  692. OCSugarBaby says:

    SuzieQ: Looks like it. :) Did I read that your sugar date was postponed?

  693. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Looks like Nitemare’s date came back :)

  694. Beach_Girl* says:

    CSB~ you might have been right about that thing!!!!

  695. NitemareSD says:

    11 is pretty, ladylike and young. Seems responsible, and soft spoken.

    Now if she returns from the ladies room I won’t have wasted $ ordering her a second drink.

  696. girlie says:

    CSB….not all BSDM is bad :) depends what he was looking for…..

  697. Beach_Girl* says:

    CSB~ that is hummmmm

  698. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    OPOV: LOL, no I don’t enjoy root canals. Luckily, I haven’t had any done (knock on wood). Speaking of pain, a pot SD emailed asking if I was into BDSM. Ummmm…….

  699. Beach_Girl* says:

    SD are somewhere around we just have to look a lot harder!
    NitemareSD~ did your date cancel? didn’t you said you were meeting at 11?

  700. OCSugarBaby says:

    What would I like to see as enhancements to SA?
    SA stands apart from other Sugar sites. I think that SA does a wonderful job of that already and I hope it continues.
    – It is helpful to have a very clear idea of what your expectations are for this experience. The features that would help better execute your search would be:
    A Tip section on getting started. With a forum dedicated to new members for asking and getting advice.
    – Membership pricing: Making it affordable for SB’s to become a member is important.
    – Search capabilities’: Not making it too detailed but adding features that are easy to maneuver thru and the ability to save your searches would be fabulous. The downside of having too many search criteria’s would be a smaller pool to draw from. Keeping it flexible will keep your mind open to many opportunities that you may search yourself out of. Saying you want to find someone in your state closes the door to someone wonderful that may be just outside of your initial guidelines’ or search area.
    -The ability to search on a profile number. But if you are blocked by the member you will not be able to locate it. If your profile is hidden, it will not also come up when searched on the number.
    – Make the Block feature more prominent.
    – Instant messaging: But have the option to turn off the feature if you personally do not want to use it.
    SA does a wonderful job of attracting a diverse group of men and women; it takes effort to weed out the good from the bad. Any tools to help the community do this will be GREAT. :)

  701. NitemareSD says:

    Yeah family emergency. Right

    Raine story should help people understand it is competitive out there. If someone doesn’t respond in a prompt, professional manner, they are gone.

  702. raine says:

    I kinda figured they were in here somewhere. 😀

    The aforementioned SD certainly lit a fire under my butt! Now I have to pretend I’m looking for work — striking while the iron’s hot, shoving my ‘resume’ in the SDs’ hands before the competition reaches them! Crank out at least an hour’s worth of sugar work daily! [okay, I’m a tad antsy now, what with all these exclamation points…]

  703. Gail says:

    Memories
    Like the corners of my mind
    Misty watercolor memories
    Of the way we were
    Scattered pictures
    Of the smiles we left behind
    Smiles we gave to one another
    For the way we were

    Can it be that it was all so simple then
    Or has time rewritten every line
    If we had the chance to do it all again
    Tell me – would we? could we?

    Memories
    May be beautiful and yet
    Whats too painful to remember
    We simply choose to forget

    So it is the laughter
    We will remember
    Whenever we remember
    The way we were

    So it is the laughter
    We will remember
    Whenever we remember
    The way we were

    Now Stephan…you’ve got me feeling sentimental…..

  704. Beach_Girl* says:

    Hi Sugars!!! I haven’t been here in a bit, hope all is good
    as for the subject? poof dadies?
    yes tones of them!!!

  705. girlie says:

    Yes, funny how those rejection letters are a good thing. At least there is no guess work.

    CSB….absolutely agree. I know exactly who you mean!

    Raine, here is hoping the next true gentleman is the one!

  706. OPOV says:

    “ChocolateSnowBunny Says:
    April 18th, 2009 at 10:47 pm

    Raine: I always love to get those rejection emails.”

    Don’t tell me you’re the type of person who loves getting a root canal too, are you? 😀

  707. Katherine says:

    CSB and raine: I agree. Even though the rejection letter is usually supposed to make you frown (well, sort of, I’m sure you know what I mean)… I always tend to smile and sometimes even respond with the fact that I really appreciate the letter back.
    hehe. There are certainly gentlemen on this site!!

  708. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Girlie: I don’t believe that we share a mutual friend but an acquaintance from this blog, yes. I will have her give you my email address so that we can chat off blog. Always good to have SBs friends to share advice with and laugh some of the bad experiences off.

    Raine: I always love to get those rejection emails. Still brings a smile to my face knowing that there are men with manners left. Crossing my fingers for you.

  709. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Nice to catch up with everyone tonight. I’m just heading out for a walk…training injuries have the better of me and I’ve been ordered to rest. Since I don’t know the meaning of the word, I’ve substituted “walk.” Shhh…don’t tell my therapist!

  710. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Girlie – unfortunately he had to cancel due to a family emergency. Oh well, these things happen. He said we will reschedule once everything is back to normal. I sent a quick email a couple of days ago to check on things but haven’t heard yet.

  711. raine says:

    Well, CSB, it’s on hold for now, since I edited my profile earlier. As I mentioned a while back, I got my first email from a true gentleman who promptly responded to my email; he informed me he’d found someone but appreciated my having read his profile. I didn’t feel the least bit rejected, but said email has since prompted me to chuck my entire favorites list and act ever more quickly next go round!

  712. raine says:

    SuzieQ: ha! I’m SO writing that down. Just in case: “none for me, thanks.” *snicker*

  713. girlie says:

    CSB, I love it! We don’t share a mutual friend, do we? First name starts with A? A GF joined the site here last summer and then told two Toronto friends who also joined……

  714. NitemareSD says:

    Use of Wassup in a message of any length subtracts 5 percentage points from a man’s evolution, and 8 from a woman’s.

    I’m now down to 95 max.

  715. girlie says:

    Perhaps, but I can barely get it. I don’t even respond, I can’t bring myself to.
    Too bad, I just received a lovely and thoughtful note from a gentleman in CA, but he is much too young for me. Why must the young ones send such great emails and then the right aged ones give a “Wassup”?

    Suzieq, What ended up happening with your travel plans?

  716. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Lol SuzieQ, that is so hilarious. I may start using that response to some of the one-liner messages.

    Girlie: Yes, in your province. It’s Kitty, you and I in close proximity to each other.

    Raine: How’s the sugar search going so far?

  717. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Hi Girlie, Raine. Maybe the correct answer to messages like that is “checked it out, stepping back.”

  718. raine says:

    I’d like to know the answer to your first question too, girlie. Wow: some people are still refusing to write whole messages, huh? That makes me even more grateful for the one I’d received!

  719. girlie says:

    How does one determine the percentage of evolution of a man?

    And why does anyone bother sending messages that are along the lines of “Wassup, check out my profile and get back”. ?

  720. raine says:

    Hi, MtDon and SuzieQ.

    My favorites list got kinda long at some point, so I trimmed it down to those I was really interested in. Well, apparently I’d waited too long because one of the first three I contacted has since found someone else! [*again, he was a gentleman about it]

    as a result, to ensure decent odds, I’ll have to delete MY ENTIRE FAVES LIST and start anew (ie, email each SD right then and there). Dang.

  721. girlie says:

    Hi SuzieQ!

    MtDon, I love the idea of a forum. It would allow users to click on topics of interest and perhaps eliminate backlog and slow loading pages.

    Villa, thanks for asking about my GF. In her case she found 3 drievers lisences, 3 different names, all him in the pic. Awesome. We laugh about it now, but it was horrendous at the time.
    I am lucky, I have never really had a bad experience here, or anywhere…..certainly things I wish could have been different, but I ave remained friends with nearly everyone I have connected with here (well, expect for the guy who cut and pasted my head on a Disney Princesses body in a pic….yep, I am serious).

    ChocolateSnowBunny, are we in the same province? I love seeing Canadian ladies here! My date went well the other night. I had a lovely time and am looking forward to seeing him again. I’m not sure of what will transpire based on what our needs are but we have something very wonderful in common that is rare to find and so I certainly wish to explore further.

  722. NitemareSD says:

    Forums yeah! My first thread will be titled “Examinations of the Incidence of Accidentally Sleeping with Somone”

    A lady in NY wants her man to…

    “Be at least 85% evolved, not arrogant nor egotistical.”

  723. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Good evening everyone…nice to be able to have a few minutes to get caught up here. Early Saturday evening on the west coast and another quiet weekend for me. I do have a hot date with my weedeater tomorrow though LOL!

    MtDon – all excellent suggestions. I love the articles idea. On my first visit here I read the info on what this is, how it works, etc and found that helpful. More detailed articles would only be more so, and might help a lot of newcomers (both sbs and sd’s) to get a better handle on what this site is all about (ie not escorts or prostitutes!)

    Personally IM is my top rated wish. It would be nice to be able to see in their profile if they are online, and if so the option to contact via IM. I think it might encourage contact sooner, rather than hitting the “add to favourites” button. I know I sometimes do this when I first log on and see some new faces, I will have a quick look and if someone interests me I’ll often hit the faves button as I’m on my way to somewhere else (usually this blog). I have every good intention of going back later to send an email but sometimes it doesn’t happen for a while. It might eliminate a lot of frustration over the comments about “why do so many people add me to their faves but never contact me?”

  724. MtDon says:

    Some more:

    Be able to search by city or zip code/distance for other SD’s (if you are a SD) or SB’s (if you are a SB), etc. So you can see what your local “competition” is.

    Automatic logoff if you haven’t had any activity for a certain length of time (say a couple of hours). It seems like you can stay logged on indefinitely (not sure if this is true).

  725. stephan says:

    MtDon:

    Nice suggestions. I was talking with a SDmember the other day and I realized that a lot of folks don’t know that the SA blog is open to members and non-members alike. With the new site will be forums where you can start your Own discussions, and so forth.

    There should definitely be a way to read some of the articles that have been written from members, journalists (the more legitimate ones), and more.

    Here’s a post about Standard VS Premium membership (which will be added to the FAQ soon): http://www.seekingarrangement.com/blog/?p=21

    Welcome to the blog, don’t be a stranger.

    GAIL: Yes I remember the olden days – remember cre8tor and Ms. V? ‘memories, light the corners of my mind, misty water colored memories, the way we were…” am I being too sentimental?

  726. MtDon says:

    “What new features do you want to see most on SA? Better searches? Better mailbox? Instant messaging?”

    One thing that hasn’t been mentioned yet is that I’d like to have the navigation bar that has ” Home Account Profile Photos Mailbox Search Favorites FAQ Blog Logout ” on every page.

    A Forum, so members can start discussions.

    More articles about what SD/SB relationships are about. Possibly put together some of the better comments from the blog. And have them accessible to both members and non-members.

    A better explanation of the difference between a standard member and a premium member. A table with all the features of the site listed with check marks indicating which are available for standard members and which only for premium members. And if there are differences between SD, SB, SM, gay or straight members that should be included too. (I don’t know if they are or not.)

    When a member changes their profile, keep the old one up until the new one is approved, possibly give the member a choice of keeping the current profile up or hiding it until the new one is approved.

    It would be great to be able to search based on distance from a zip code.

    When using advanced search, allow searching more than one city at a time. (But not as good as zip code and distance would be.)

    Be able to save several different searches.

  727. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Hmmmm. That’s rather shitty, if it’s the case. My friend is here… later!! x

  728. NitemareSD says:

    Oh and a trash folder for those accidentally deleted emails.

    I play my games off the blog 😉 I am not NitemareSD when you meet me in person.

    NYC right now. My guess is she’s working several SDs and someone else came up.

    That was my 9 o’clock. My 11 is still on…diversify!

  729. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    NitemareSD you seem like a very straight forward type man. A good quality. Refreshing to see other than the game playing men seem to love so much. Yes ok I admit woman too.

  730. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    What time zone are you in Nitemare? It’s rather late to be cancelling for a Saturday evening….

  731. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Girlie: How was your date with your pot SD? I love to keep up with my sugars, especially those close to me in the Great White North lol :)

  732. NitemareSD says:

    I just had someone text me they can’t meet tonight can we do tomorrow

    I said no problem, give me a shout.

    No problem, but the ball is in her court now.

  733. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    I agree, always play it smart. Always have a back up plan. I personally have a friend call me during a date. If’s its going well Its a small interruption. If this guy is a flake I have an excuse that I need to get home to my kids.

    I am Not Rude don’t get me wrong. I Only use that if the guy is really out there. I had a dinner date with a SD in my area. He looked nothing like his picture. I sat through the whole dinner and we had a pleasant conversation. There just was no chemistry. I thanked him for dinner, he asked to see me again. I said I thought he was a very nice man but I didn’t think we had a connection. We parted on good terms.

  734. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    I’ve been lucky as well, sweetred. And girlie, sorry about your friend… hope she recovered from her awful experience.

  735. raine says:

    ^being facetious.

    *ahem* so, even though I call if I need to postpone or reschedule under any/all other circumstances(somebody can’t watch my daughter, say, or even just plain nerves) in this case I would be out of the running?!

  736. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    OPOV – I’ve thought the same… that once a person is out of university or graduate school, where one generally knows his fellow students and their backgrounds quite well, it is rather daunting to meet people knowing that a small minority will have created lives which are completely false, on every level.

  737. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Thanks, nitemare… I’ll take that as a compliment, even though I don’t believe I have a “budget” requirement :) I do enjoy your posts, most certainly.

    I couldn’t “line up several meetings”…. if I go to meet someone, as I said, it’s because I trust him and really want to meet him, and only him.

  738. NitemareSD says:

    I am a half glass person with free refills.

  739. NitemareSD says:

    Villa I always knew you were my kinda lady – just a little outa my budget. 😉

    For SDs this is the normal experience. Just reality. Don’t downplay it.

    Let me spell it out for those that didn’t pick it up. You gonna travel, line up several mtgs.

    There are other ways to play it. Have that old school friend you really want to see in NYC. Line up one or three SDs to meet while there and crash at her pad.

    You don’t have to make the riskiest move. Diversify and you’ll come away ok in the long run.

  740. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    I am a half full glass person. I think I have been very lucky with the men I have met. I have talked to a few that are the flakes, but they are easily spotted, at least for me. you can learn alot about a person when you talk to them over the internet. You just have to know what questions to ask.

  741. girlie says:

    Villa, absolutely, yes. I had all the info I needed without ever even having to ask but I have a GF who was mislead on a grant scale and so, while I have been lucky, crazy happens to good people :)
    I`ve never had a bad experience but it happens.

  742. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    If I can’t verify who they are or they refuse to give me a full correct name. Of course after we have spoken a bit and plan to met. Then I will not met that person. Safety always. I know some of the SD are high profile, but I sure don’t want anyone knowing I am in this either. I protect their identity as much as I protect my own.

  743. OPOV says:

    Hi Villa and raine…

    my dinner date experience I have to imagine is the exception among exceptions to the norm. But if things don’t quite go the way I expect, I always try to make the best of it. I had a great dinner that night sitting at the bar enjoying one of my favorite NY chef’s meals.

    I am not the first to have had these paid tickets/no show experiences even outside of this site. It happens from time to time and you have to expect it.

    But what some of us sd’s experience I am willing to venture is only a fraction of the flakiness that occurs on the other side of the fence. I can imagine that there are far more flakes from the sd pool than the sb. Men tend to have a shorter attention span then women so I think that our flakiness would be a given. You would hope that people would be the adult and do the right thing, but this is not like, shall we say, school were you will see the other person walking the halls on Monday. This is cyberspace where people pretend to be anything they want and for the most part there are no repercussions.

    I don’t want you all to think that with my 2 or 3 experiences I was making this into some tit-for-tat flake session just to make you feel bad or me feel good. This is the just the nature of cyber-dating and you have to expect most of what is presented to be false. In fact, I am generally surprised if reality meets my expectations. (I am that half-empty glass kind of person).

  744. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    I’ve had good luck with the few meetings I have had… but those have all been after at least one month of communicating via phone and email, and I knew his personal and professional details – not because I demanded them as proof of identity, but rather because he discovered I am a person of honesty, integrity and respect and he chose to share those with me.

    And that created a lot of positive energy on both sides, because we trusted each other. I paid for the $700 ticket to NYC, which he reimbursed upon my arrival. Never once did I doubt that would be the case.

    Perhaps I have just been fortunate not to have been “burned” thus far.

  745. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Girlie – wouldn’t one want to verify who she is meeting and gauge his honesty before the purchase of an e-ticket? If people are flying off to meet someone, unsure of who he really is, then I now understand why people are nervous and sometimes flake out.

  746. girlie says:

    That’s a good point, ChocolateSnowBunny. I could easily fund a ticket but I would likely be very worried about what could happen. The other thing is, an e-ticket shows the full name of the purchaser so you can verify who you are meeting and if they have been honest thus far.

  747. raine says:

    Thanks again for the heads up, gentlemen. I shall go the extra mile in not giving your fellow SDs a hard time. 😐

  748. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Good point…. that’s true.

    And underlying the whole debate on who has more to “lose”, SDs or SBs, in terms of money, time, virtue, what-have-you, is the absence of TRUST.

    For an SB to, as CSB said, take a chunk of her income, on the promise of being reimbursed later, or an SD to book a ticket for someone, in hopes she shows up… it seems most people are going into this with the mindset that the other party is going to screw him or her over. And that is sad.

    I suppose one has to be cautious, always. On the other hand, if you reach the point at which one or the other is willing to travel for a meeting, one would hope the two people have come to know each other and reached a level of comfort which would facilitate a positive encounter, without fear of being used or taken advantage of on some level.

  749. NitemareSD says:

    If I wanted to go somewhere, I would not consider it traveling to meet the SB. The SB meet would be an extra.

    The locals don’t show up just as often.

    Well if you don’t have the capital, you can cut your teeth on other SDs. I’ll be here later too I hope.

  750. girlie says:

    I can’t imagine having a plane ticket booked and then flaking. Any SB I’ve known would just go and make the best of it. I kind of feel it’s similar to flaking on an interview……even if you don’t want to job, you go for the experience. Poor example, but you know……….

    I wonder if a lot of women are just frightened of what might be expected of them at the other end? I’m not making excuses, I’m a stickler for good manners but if you aren’t experienced in life, or sugar dating in general, I would imagine that last minute nerves cause some flakes.

  751. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    Not only in cyberspace. I am not sure what has happened. People are rude to each other. People do not stop to help each other anymore. Its sad.

  752. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    OPOV: I love the way that you choose to deal with possible flakes by traveling to the SB. This is my preferred way of meeting a pot SD for the first time.

    NitemareSD: As to your comment that a woman that doesn’t have the money to buy a plane ticket probably isn’t worth it, I beg to differ. As a university student, I would not be willing to take a chunk out of my income in hopes of being reimbursed by a pot SD. There are just too much flakes for SBs to take such a risk IMHO.

  753. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Exactly, sweetred. Common courtesy and common decency…. which unfortunately seem to be lacking in ‘cyberspace’.

  754. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    I think a gentleman would travel to meet the SB. Make her comfortable on her own ground, at least the first meeting.

    A no show is just rude. If you change your mind let that person know so you do not waste their time. That is just common decency.

  755. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Hey sugar family. How is everyone doing?

    Are you noticing more sugar daddies? Sugar babies?

    There have been more SDs pop up in my area but about 50 percent are non-paying members since the NYT article. Regardless, I guess the article did yield significant numbers in membership.

    Have you ever ran into a Poof Daddy? How do you handle a sugar flake?

    I have ran into quite a few of these. I normally just move on. Not worth my time to stress over them.

    What new features do you want to see most on SA? Better searches? Better mailbox? Instant messaging?

    I agree with all of the suggestions thus far from the sugar. I took a hiatus from the blog after all the “policing” lately. A chat feature would be great and more free search features for SBs. Stephan, thanks for clarifying because the blog has indeed become quite a bore/uninviting with all that “on topic” mumbo jumbo.

  756. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Nitemare and OPOV –

    I must say that I am appalled to hear your comments regarding persons who fail to show up for “dates”, either in or out of town. I’m sorry, as such thoughtless, rude actions reflect poorly on the female population as a whole. That would seem to be the epitome of a “flake”, as well as evidencing a complete lack of respect for the other person’s time, energy, and interest.

    Hopefully, those are the exceptions.

  757. OPOV says:

    Nitemare, I have had the same results too in providing airfare for no shows. Which is why I prefer to travel to meet someone. Anything to get away for a day or two and recharge the batteries.

  758. NitemareSD says:

    Also if I ever did meet someone out of my way, I’d line up several in the same location expecting about 50% to show.

    Something for SBs to consider themselves.

  759. NitemareSD says:

    Saved searches so i don’t have to recreate them over and over…accessible via url bookmark.

    I have never traveled to meet an SB. They have always come to me, usually with the condition that their plane fare is reimbursed upon arrival.

    The short time I experimented with buying tickets in advance yielded poor results – no shows and poor quality shows.

    If a woman doesn’t have the wherewithal and money in her pocket to buy a plane ticket, she probably isn’t worth it. Regardless, she can stick to SDs in her town and I’ll wait until she pulls it together.

  760. raine says:

    Hi again.

    “I’m sorry but I got you confused with someone else.” [seriously?] I’m sorry you received what I consider the poorest excuse yet, OPOV. You’ve expanded (broadened?) my insight on the SD’s side of things, though. I’ll keep this in mind as my search continues (or rather, when it resumes, since I just edited my profile).

  761. OPOV says:

    That’s better. Been stuck in the corner since this morning.

    To continue what I had posted this morning, I have recently had a rather amusing sugar flake experience: I was communicating with someone offsite and after a bit made arrangements to meet and greet. Well the night comes and I go to the restaurant, and sit and wait and wait. No calls. Got stood up. Tried to find out what happened and got this response: “I’m sorry but I got you confused with someone else”. Maybe she came and got a look and changed her mind (must have been that hideous look of mine) or just flaked out altogether.

    I have also traveled to meet with someone (to LA, I am in NYC) to get stood up as well. At least the weather was nice.

    Someone(s) mentioned that we all take a chance, which is right. But when it comes to sb vs sd, it has been argued that for the sd, he is only wasting money which he has in abundance and he can always get more money, which is somewhat true. But most of the guys here are self-made and haven’t accomplished what we have by pissing away our money and, more importantly, our time. These are resources we may have in abundance of one, but never both at the same time, and it become really annoying when we waste either.

    That being said, these “flakes” have been the exception to the norm. Most ladies I have communicated with have been sincere and lovely people and some of the people I have met since joining I have generally enjoyed meeting, even if they were not right for me and I for her. But not everyone you meet is right for you and that’s fine, because that’s life and we shouldn’t have to settle for anyone.

  762. stephan says:

    Hey all,

    Feel free to blog about what you want!

    All is welcome as long as it’s not overtly malicious against anyone – let’s clear the air :)

    I liked the NYT’s piece and think it was the most balanced article out to date.

    What new features do I want on SA?

    – I want to know if I’ve messaged and/or viewed someone.

    – A chat room would be nice

    Have I dealt with a sugar flake?

    – Yes, I have dealt with MANY sugar Daddy and Baby flakes, but not in a dating sense. I do understand, tho, why they would flake — for the same reason anyone flakes.

    Have I noticed more SD’s? SB’s?

    Yes and no. For some reason things always feel about the same in the close-nit sort of way…

  763. NitemareSD says:

    Add a second blog where the rule is stay off topic

  764. gurlnextdoor*274735* says:

    Welcome to the blog F.A. and Cyrano :)

    When did this “rule” of one must stay on topic come into effect? Perhaps this was when I was away…

  765. Katherine says:

    Are you noticing more sugar daddies? Sugar babies?
    Well, I’m not sure how to see if there’s an increase in sugar babies, but others seem to be noticing a bit of an increase since both the Tyra Banks show and the NYT article.
    And have there been more sugar daddies? In my neck of the woods, certainly. No doubt about it! But I’m also noticing that with some of these new SD’s.. some of them don’t seem to understand the nature of the SD/SB relationship. I appreciate the honesty when they say they’re new to it and are flexible, but then there are other profiles that say that matches the description of an escort.. or a girlfriend. I’m glad the bloggers have been able to help me determine who’s genuine :) Thanks!!

    Have you ever ran into a Poof Daddy? How do you handle a sugar flake?
    Ah, of course. It saddens me a bit at first, if there seemed to be a connection (ie Satine, I hear ya completely!!), but I figure it just means one less to sort through in the end, and one closer towards finding my dream SD hehe

    What new features do you want to see most on SA? Better searches? Better mailbox? Instant messaging?
    I LOVE reading everyone’s input on this!!!
    I agree with the idea of revamping the mailboxes. Making them more compact, being able to see what you’ve responded to, having folders to be able to sort through them, etc…
    Also, since the new rule has been implemented about posting *on* topic, I’ve missed the vibrant conversations some of us have had before. While they’re still fun, I agree with sweetred that something feels like it’s missing. An instant messaging feature/chat would be WONDERFUL :)

    Also, welcome to the blog FA and Cyrano 😀 , I second what Elizabeth said!! Hopefully you’ll come to love the blog as much as we do :)

  766. Elizabeth says:

    FA…you’ll find everyone very supportive here…I’ve not been here long but have found those I’ve talked to on here to be a wonderful group of people…

  767. NitemareSD says:

    Hey good idea search by name.

    Also maybe search text – serves 2 purposes: if you lose track of someone, and SBs and SDs can embed keywords into their profiles to get selected by a text search filter.

    Yeah, lotsa babes around. Gold digging season is in early this year. :)

    Really, I think this is a transitional time of year where many are trying to make summer plans, etc.

  768. Satine says:

    “Poof Daddies” – It can be quite annoying actually. When you take time out of your life and schedule to correspond, send pics, start imagining this person entering your life, maybe even develop an online friendship .. and then poof! Gone. Super annoying. And in a few cases, a bit hurtful.

    Do men just get sidetracked with all of “hot chicks” on here? One thing I have noticed is that many of the “poof daddies” end up being members of these sites indefinitely.. You see their profiles still a year or two later… After all, how can they make progress with one special SB if they continue to get distracted by the next one that emails? I prefer men that just pick one, focus, and go.

    To all the sugars out there, it takes less than two minutes, to send an email- “It was lovely corresponding, but I have found someone else that I want to give things a try with” .. or “Thank you for your emails, good luck in the future, unfortunately I will be moving in a different direction” .. or even “Thanks, but you are not my type, don’t want to waste your time.” Something is better than rudely dropping off the radar. Why do we find it acceptable to forget our manners just because we are online?

    I recently developed quite a nice online friendship with a man in a far away land. We sent hours worth of emails back and forth for weeks, sharing our days, talking about our lives.. I appreciated his world wisdom and could not wait for each next email. Then one day.. nothing.. weeks, nothing. No goodbye, nothing. Did he die? Did he lose interest? What gives? Annoying.

  769. Cyrano LosAngeles says:

    Great to visit the Blog for the first time — learned about it in the NYT article, I think.

    I’d consider myself a very experienced SD, and have found this site terrific for the past 18 months.

    One suggestion: When we report a possible faker/scammer by e-mail to Support, pls. reply — you used to do this, but my recent reports you did not.

    Also — I’m a bit perplexed by the questions at the end of each of your main blog sections — they seem so off-topic related to the headlines?

    Keep up the good work, SA! Cyrano

  770. F.A. says:

    I am new here — lurking for a couple of days, and this is my first post. I’m very happy to find a supportive community here, so – hello folks! (I want to be a SD, and I’m trying, but have only exchanged a few e-mails with prospective SBs so far…)

    I was brought back here by the NY Times article. I had registered about 6 months earlier, but didn’t find anybody interesting in my searches, so I stopped trying and had actually forgotten that I had ever tried it when I came back after the Times piece. When I did, I saw a lot of great-looking SBs – I was really amazed. About 20% of those joined since the Times article, so I think it brought new quality SBs in.

    1. I would like a “help” feature on this web site.
    2. I would like the capability to bring up the profile of a specific member, by name and/or by number. Or is this already there?
    3. I would also like to have more comprehensive search capability, and text chat.

  771. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    Stephan can you please clarify this rule, if it actually one.

  772. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    I don’t see why you can’t post on your progress on your sugar dating. Or ask any questions you like. I am not sure who made this “rule” not posting off topic but it sucks. Let’s get back to the way it was on this blog, fun and inviting.

    Ok that’s my 2 cents for what it is worth

  773. raine says:

    He absolutely was, Nico: I was so excited/surprised to have gotten the response so quickly I wasn’t remotely dejected. In fact, after reading, I went “awww.”[I don’t mean to bring up old stuff, but I really wanted to report my progress.]

    I wish I had more to contribute to this topic, but I’m afraid I don’t. I’ll resume lurking/taking notes now…

  774. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    At least he took the time to respond to you Raine. We’ve blogged on this topic before. Most don’t respond….he was ‘hopefully’ a gentleman about it.

  775. raine says:

    Hi all. I’m unable to answer the questions right now*, but Nitemare’s recommendations sound about right.

    *however, based on all the recent media coverage, I can say I see more and more “tin cups” posing as competition (as for more SDs, I can’t call it because I haven’t searched much as of late).

    Oh yeah, and I received my first rejection email last week. 😐

  776. OPOV says:

    Good Morning

    changes to the board?

    a chat feature would be great so we don’t keep running into that moderation hell that comes up every now and then

    change feature in “who viewed me” profile from first viewed date to last viewed date – it provides a more accurate detail of a pot’s interest in you if they haven’t bookmarked you (and even if they have it would be nice to know if I had been bookmarked and forgotten or bookmarked and shown interest)

    add one or two more categories to the marital status section, i.e. not married but in long time relationship

  777. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    I am not saying I do not have an SD :) I was commenting on some of the flake emails I get. I have talked to some very nice men on here and have many SD friends. Ok so I am picky and know what I am looking for. I have found it in several Sd’s, so It is out there. My age has not been a problem at all for me, or that I have noticed. I look younger than I am so that helps. I can have a conversation with an SD on his level and still have the Wild side he is looking for in a younger woman.

  778. Nyland says:

    Yes Sweetredhead, It is a impulse to think with the other part of the anatomy when it comes to the younger SB set. lol :p But I guess in the end I get the older (slightly) ones but still love to browse the younger :) My oldest was 26 and well I just about fell in love with her cause of the connection that we had…she broke it off cause she couldn’t stand the emotional strain anymore … she felt the same about me :(

    I want chemistry and friendship. I tell the pot that above all I want you to feel some connection and desire to be with ME and not just about the $$$ otherwise its cheaper and less stressful to just be with an escort.

  779. NitemareSD says:

    SweetRed – I know it must be frustrating, since you surely must be that happy medium – that SA is not completely devoted to SBs like you and the SDs they want. 😛

    This is a great place for its diversity. There is most everything here – believe me I have looked. 😉

  780. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    WOW NitemareSD, you really thought about this. Are you looking for a job on SA lol. Joking aside that sounds like some very good ideas

  781. NitemareSD says:

    A forum might work better than a blog. A forum could have “blog” topics from the admin plus other areas to chat and trade advice.

    Put marital status and occupation on the little preview of the profiles. If necessary to implement, drop name and eye/hair color – the later is in the picture sort of and who cares anyway 😮

    Add profile mod date and make profile creation date the original date.

    Add search based on occupation.

    Add generic types of arrangements to search on as well.

    Add mailbox organization – folders, display more emails/page, navagate to page #, sort options, etc. Show if message has been replied to already. Automatic folder for each SB/SD option to keep conversations organized.

    Stop limiting number of emails per day for paid SD/SM or increase significantly.

    Don’t change the interface!!! Keep it familiar with some more functionality.

  782. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    Good Morning Nico. I agree with you.

    I used to come on the blog all the time. But me staying on topic, usually doesn’t happen so I don’t come here much anymore. Not as fun. A chat room would be a great add.

    I have talked to a lot of Sd’s and they seen nice and a gentleman, but then they flake out on me. I had a SD offer me $10,000 a month for specific sexual acts. Told him he needed to get a prostitute would cost him less lmao.

    Sometimes I wonder do some Sd’s know what this site is about? Some use it as a dating site, some as a get laid quick thing. Some Sb’s allow this so it goes. To me it’s not all about what you can offer me. It what I can offer you and a chemistry and friendship.

    Ok I will get off my soapbox now :)

  783. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Goooood morning Sugar Family!!!

    Are you noticing more sugar daddies? Sugar babies?
    I’ve hidden my profile so would not be able to comment on this subject. Prior to hiding it though I hadn’t noticed too much of an influx.

    Have you ever run into a Poof Daddy? How do you handle a sugar flake?
    Poof Daddy ~ thanx OC :) Yes, Poof Daddy exists and then disappears for no particular reason. Mostly in my case it’s been because it’s taken too long to meet initially and, unless there’s ongoing communication with this individual, out of site becomes out of mind.

    What new features do you want to see most on SA? Better searches? Better mailbox? Instant messaging?
    Better searches would be nice ~ being able to narrow it down to a particular ‘area’ or within a radius of your zip code is great.

    Mailbox is perfect for me.

    Instant Messaging is good because as GND mentioned, it would help with that initial contact to determine if, on the surface, you’re a good match.

    I do like the idea of an interactive chat though. Since the chat about staying on topic the blog has become slow and lost its allure to some…and interactive chat would allow the best of both worlds and a more real time response. :)

  784. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    Good Morning everyone. Nice to see the SD starting to come out