8 years ago
Scam Confession

8 years ago
Scam Confession

Have you been scammed by a Sugar Daddy or Sugar Baby?

Share your tale of Sugar Daddy horror and help current and aspiring sugars from falling into a sour trap from Sugar Daddy/Sugar Baby fakes!

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  1. Anonymous says:

    Smtih48 SCAMMED ME out of over 4000 dollars. He told me he was going to put some money in my account and asked me to drop some of it off at moneygram. Once this was done, he reversed the funds. Now I owe the bank 1700 dollars. I dont know what i am going to do, I was already a stuggling student. He stole every dime I’d saved for my car.

    • Amber says:

      I recently got scammed on Weds. but I was able to file a police report because it involved a fraudulant check. I encourage every to always write down any information you get from them in case this happens. Also, ALWAYS ask questions and never give out your personal financial info. I was naive as well when I got scammed so I know exactly how you all feel. Just please be careful.

  2. scam says:

    Yesterday I was contacted by user Fredstar A (Ohio). In his first message, he gave me his phone number. I always avoid these guys or at least casually mention that I would like to get to know them better here prior to exchanging numbers (and at that point they disappear hella quick), but his pictures (whether they were his or not, idk) were attractive so I said screw it. He was fine until discussing allowances. He was very demanding with knowing what bank I used even though I told him I would only accept a cash allowance due to obvious reasons. I asked if cash allowance was an issue, and he said YES, and claimed it would be easier to just transfer the money to me. I asked why couldn’t he just give me the cash allowance during our meetings? No response. Not sure if he blocked me or deactivated, but I can’t view him now.

    Definitely avoid this one!!!!

  3. Anonymous says:

    Apparently I fell for the online banking now my account is being closed for fraudulent activity luckily I went to get a new account for this matter but be aware richpapi14 he scammed me and now I’m paying for it and I’m already a struggling student .. learned my lesson ! PayPal only

  4. Honey says:

    has anyone come across SD user name Bigdaddy26088? Says his name is James and is a civil engineer. He pays me 400/ week but then asks me to western union extra money to someone out of the country I’ve done it once. Scam???

    • Cinnabon says:

      I have the same thing with a an sd. He sent many pictures. Spoke for a short period then ask about allowance upfront then ask me todo a favor and send his employees money either through western union or money gram. Idk if it a scam. It he delete his sa account and discontinue speaking.

  5. WOW says:

    So my time here has been up and down, but mostly down, which lots of bad incidents. Just going to throw out some of the ones that particularly stood out to me:

    Daddy4CollegeBaby – Florida area: He claims to be a daddy dom, but he was very aggressive in texting and treated me like a lesser person. When I mentioned that, yes I am submissive, but firstly I am an adult and that needs to be respected, he freaked out and posted my private gallery pictures elsewhere on the internet and provided lovely screenshots! As an experienced sub, I can definitely say stay clear of him (either you are into BDSM or vanilla, because this is some signs of abusive behavior).

    Chrisfalla – Alaska area: Potential scam alert. He was very insistent that I give him my bank account info to be put on his “payroll” and when I mentioned I needed to open an account first, he was very demanding with how soon I needed to do it. Instablocked.

    Scouter 12 – Louisiana area: Potential scam alert. She claimed to be a talent scout and said upon an interview and “informal portolio” that she would compile, she and the company she worked for could help me get into modeling. However, the questions she asked didn’t really seem like anything necessary for modeling (asked about my relationship status and sexual orientation). She requested five of my best pictures, which I sent. All were fully clothed. She then insisted that I send nudes. Sorry sweetheart, I’m noping out of this one.

    Pittsburgification – Pittsburgh, PA: He seemed legit and sweet upon texting and talking to him on the phone, but he instantly got creepy upon meeting. The conversation went from him asking general questions about me to very sexual questions. He then got way too handsy. Very demanding Scorpio. I am now investing in pepper spray.

    Craig – Ohio area: Again, he seemed fairly nice while first chatting on the site. He made a sexual remark partway through our conversation and I mentioned that I didn’t want this to start out on a sexual basis (especially because, wow I haven’t even met him yet and knew nothing about him). Anyway, he claims he would “love to get to know me better” and so we continue into texting. Fast forward to another sexual remark, and me pointing it out, and he goes ballistic. Apparently, wanting to be respected while getting to know someone means: you are full of drama, you are crazy, paranoid, rude, and insolent, and you deserve to have your looks insulted, despite being earlier told you are incredibly sexy. Again, another Scorpio… way too mental and intense for me.

    siegel in nyc – New York area: He is nice enough in talking, but he is using fake photos (both on site and on other internet platforms with his name). If you do get involved, ask for a photo upfront so you know what you’re getting into.

  6. Anonymous says:

    I’m new to SA. So if they are not willing to send you money through PayPal and instead ask for bank info to “directly put it in his payroll” it’s a scam?

  7. Wtf! says:

    Another Gem …
    Someone kind who will spend time with me. I don’t mind about the age gap as long as we’re both comfortable (so if you’re looking for sex don’t message me lol) I’d like to meet someone mature, respectful and sweet

  8. iwontdothat says:

    Anyone know a guy named Jovani ? Giovanni ? Thick accent and wants you to get a hotel room with your money ? Largo and Tampa area ?

  9. lily says:

    Be careful of XoXo10021 (Tarik) – Major Scam, spent 4 days together then left the country without a word… Definitely learned from this experience, but I want to warn others who might also get Scammed.

  10. EC says:

    Ladies in London / UK beware of profile ‘Call Me Al 1’- the guys is crazy, delusional living with his parrot. Asked me for account details, full name, D.O.B and passport number… these guys must think is girls are dumb. Have met too many fakes on this site – people need to be monitored better IMO, or men have to to do the background checks?

  11. Guy says:

    Hey, I am a newbie SD. Have met a potential SB expecting $$$ per meet and she definitely sounds like real SB. However, she is expecting me to provide my personal info to prove who I am, which is fair to ask for her own safety, which is fine with me. However, she is not comfortable to share her personal identifiable info as of now. Is that normal for an SB not to share her personal info, but expecting SD to share? In such case, what kind of info that an SD should get from SB to ensure SD’s safety and not getting scammed/tricked.

    • Anonymous says:

      I always err on the side of caution as a SD. Unlike most dating sites, we have the upper hand and can afford to be picky. If there is anything about a potential SB you don’t like, drop her. There are tens more just around the corner.

    • Rick says:

      Allowance just to meet is a HUGE RED flag. Once I meet someone, if we connect, then I’m fine with exchanging info, but certainly not before. There’s nothing she needs to know in order to meet you in a nice public restaurant where she is perfectly safe.

      And honestly, I don’t expect SBs to provide much ID, they have a lot more issues about personal safety. Just enough to know she’s over he legal age. :-)

  12. Richard says:

    Hey, I am a newbie SD. Have met a potential SB expecting XXXX per meet and she definitely sounds like real SB. However, she is expecting me to provide my personal info to prove who I am, which is fair to ask for her own safety, which is fine with me. However, she is not comfortable to share her personal identifiable info as of now. Is that normal for an SB not to share her personal info, but expecting SD to share? In such case, what kind of info that an SD should get from SB to ensure SD’s safety and not getting scammed/tricked.

  13. heiressgalore says:

    I really see the need for a new type of site that sets parameters and does discriminate. I am blown away at some of the stuff i amreading but also the results from sugardaddy sites lately. There is so much bad behaviour going on, on both gender’s sides. Maybe i need to create a site that is somewhere between these sites and sites like patti millionare match’s. Something middle of the road. Yes, if you doing any banking with a stranger give or take it is a scam. Yes, he recorded the sky and has uploaded it and made his rent fromthe bings. Yes, she will call your wife. Yes, he will lie and say you will get an allowance on friday. All of this is bad and you each are independently lowering the standard of something that has been such a good thing for a pretty good amount of time. Its like all of a sudden bottom feeders arrived and there is no station anymore for an sd or an sb. This shpuld be an elite exclusive arrangement between 2 people qualified to bring it. That does not mean simply looks and wallet. It means somuch more then that.

  14. jasmine says:

    hey so this one guy has agreed to give me $500 a month but says he wants an address and name so he can send me my check.i asked if he could just give it to me upfront but he says he doesn’t travel with his money. I find it so sketchy cause we haven’t even met yet and he wants to send me the money before his arrival.?

    • jasmine says:

      I mean a week.

    • postofficebox says:

      Get a po box or before you bother to get one tell him ok and start to give him a po box and see if he starts right then being like wuh uh oh uh i need your real address

      • Donoughts says:

        SCAM. Dollars to donuts the check is kited. You cash it and he gets in touch and says you need to give him half the amount back. You do that and then 3 BDs later your bank says the check is bad and takes the whole $500 back. Don’t do it. If he’s legit tell him to send a postal money order to the PO box.

  15. Anonomous says:

    Don’t waste your time with Jerry, aka guyinkc on SA! I have pics and a phone number for anyone who wants them.
    He used an unexpected “I’ll PayPal you a gift when I get home”, which no one has ever tried before, and though I thought that was at least weird and a risk, I went ahead, forcing him to promise he’d get it to me. Always listen to your instincts, aka your BRAIN!! Duh! I was blinded by my anxiety due to a financial crisis, and this is what happened. Never give strangers the benefit of the doubt! If something doesn’t sound right, it usually isn’t. Fortunately for every scammer, there’s probably hudreds of honest people. Hope this helps!

  16. Anonymous says:

    Beware of teddybear64 dumb ass bitch giving out my num and saying it’s hers I’m getting all these messages from people I don’t know and I didn’t sign up for this shit

  17. Stephanie says:

    please beware of this old ass man in norfolk Va he claims hes an attorney and he goes by the name Mike really old man always doing sketchy things he wound up taking my bank account information and i never saw him again !

    • Anonymous says:

      There’s a guy I’m taking to know asking for my online banking info. Talking about he needs it to connect his account to mine so he can automatically send me money every week.

      • Anonymous says:

        Is his name Steve Richards ?

      • jess says:

        omg he just messaged me and said he needs my log in info for my band so i can be on his “weekly 2k plan” he claims he can “change my life” lol did he say the same? everytime i try to ask a question he says he dosnt talk much and hell call me in 2 weeks haah

      • Amber says:

        I am pretty sure this is the same guy that scammed me last week. I was stupid and naive, I know but I filed a police report today because a check he put into my account was a fraud so now Im out almost $1k. Anyone still have the number he text you from? or even an email or ANYTHING?

  18. Anonymous says:

    Beware of this message. I received it from 2 different people on SA.

    A little about myself, i live in Maryland , but i work all around the country,i was raised in the Uk till 1999 when i decided to relocate to the U.S where i have my company’s head office now. my dad and mom died in a fatal accident .I am into supplies of engineering and construction equipments, i have shares in over three companies in the states.and outside
    the country, i travel a lot because of the nature of my Job. I filed a divorce in 2010 when i found out the level of her
    weed intake was unbearable. I have a child, i am a young man, looking for someone to have a funfilled life with,just be rest assured i’ll take care of you honey.. I’m presently in Paris for a tower construction project and I promise to spoil you.

  19. Anonymous says:

    I just signed up today and I already have POT
    I was so nervous that I blindly did everything he wanted which included a skype and show off my goods was i wrong to do this of is this normally
    pleas some one tell me cause since then i haven’t stopped calling myself stupid

    • Freddie says:

      I unfortunately agree (I’m sure the lack of response here is that everybody else does too, or SA is doing as usual in not moderating in a timely manner).

      Note that he could have been recording your Skype session too (anything can be screen-captured).

  20. Anonymous says:

    Sugar baby profile name [Alexi S25] otherwise known as Nikki. She will be happy, and pushy frankly, to take your money and then never see you again. I guess you live and learn.

  21. Anonymous says:

    Girls beware of a con artist named Patrick Sanders on seeking arrangements. Convicted felon, check fraud, and does meth. Smooth talker. Just beware. Hes in Orange County (Aliso Viejo, ca) total scum.

  22. NoName says:

    How would we know if a SD is not scam? Would we have to meet first and receive cash?

    • Anonymous says:

      The same way that a SD knows a SB is not a scam. Give out nothing until you have met in person and decided on an arrangement. And no promises or obligations from either SD or SB for the first meeting.

    • Rick says:

      A legitimate SD will want to meet you. He won’t ask for online banking info, he won’t ask you to send nude pictures or do naughty Skype shows. He might ask to Skype, in the same way he might want to phone you.

      Intimacy and allowance should happen at the same time, that prevents scams. And cash is ALWAYS the best.

  23. About : archangel4ever says:

    About archangel4ever in Lapeer Michigan
    “Sexy, mature , educated, fit , intelligent, endowed and most importantly rich I have it all in this world looking for my goodgirl, contact me sick of paying for these sites bs. let my membership lapse because i wasnt getting anything from this anyway, if you want to really become a sugar baby contact me
    What I’m Looking For
    Looking for that sweet suga baby, must be respectful I am in charge , always, if not I’ll replace,”

    He supposedly makes 400k annually, but doesn’t have a handle on spelling, proper grammar, or punctuation, but he’s INTELLIGENT. I noted that occupation was left blank too; wonder if he even has a job, lol
    Age: 39 …Well, there you go. smh

  24. Anonymous says:

    A sugar daddy asked for my name, account info so that he could quote on quote log in and link our accounts and deposit money whenever he needed too and when i simply implied that i’m not comfortable sharing my online account info he immediately seemed upset.. As if i offended him by not comlying but we just met why would i be dumb enough just give up info that quick.

    • Anonymous says:

      Had the same request today. He says his name is Kevin, a miner. It’s BS, you can simply provide your account number or name+name of bank to send money. I’m no dummy. I’ve been at this a long time lol

      • Rawr says:

        Omg!!!! I swear that is the same guy that tried that same line on me. I’m not going!!! I told him there’s no way. He said he was going to set me up on his payroll for $400/week but needed my online bank information. I definitely told him there’s no way that’s going to happen.

      • Anonymous says:

        Was the guy’s name Paul? I was talking to one, today and he said he would tell his accountant to put me on the payroll and I just needed to give my bank info. I told him I would like to meet in RL first and he can set up funds outside of that. He told me he would send me a money order. I didnt respond to that comment. Just said I would feel better meeting first.

      • Anonymous says:

        OMGGGGG A guy named Kevin said “Ill recieve a weekly allowance of $400/per week, at first it was good with me however everyday would be a diffrent number from him and when i looked up the area code each time it would be from diffrent states, and that’s what made me wonder something is up. I asked if he could send the funds through papypal and he replied his account officer wont let him use it. Another RED FLAG, so then he start asking for my account information such as Account name, Bank name, Online username, and password. And it almost seemed like he was demanding these things.

  25. Anonymous says:

    I had a SD ask me to set up a bank account at a very specific bank and send a picture of my id. He told me to set up online access. Does that sound right?

  26. Gerald99 says:

    I was scammed by missp30, real name, Priscilla Ham, aka Priscilla Kent. Basically the old “wire me some cash up front” scam, feel like a fool but she is a crook based in Cornwall England

  27. Sb says:

    Any info on sugardaddy290

    • Freddie says:

      There are too many SDs at SA to wonder if each is legit… and fill this thread with something other than known scammers or scam techniques/avoidance.

      But, given many SB’s are asking the same question in this thread (of different SDs), it does beg (once again) for SA to implement a feedback/rating system. I realize somebody (probably a stooge from SA) will counter that it’s infeasible/nonsensical, while it remains both feasible and sensible.

      • Anonymous says:

        Any feedback/rating system will do more harm than good. Enjoy getting negative feedback and having your rating tank from all the rude escort-like SBs who immediately make demands and then get pissy when you explain that you want to meet in person first before giving anything. Yes, I have had such cases.

  28. anonymous says:

    66. He was nice in the beginning but quickly became demanding. He begged me to Skype him over 50 times and after refusing he threatened to post me on a gossip website. He threatened to post my first and last name with the hope of ruining my online reputation. I just received this threat a new minutes ago so time will tell if he follows through. But ladies, avoid this sociopath!

  29. anonymous says:

    beware of MRG83166. He was nice in the beginning but quickly became demanding. He begged me to Skype him over 50 times and after refusing he threatened to post me on a gossip website called TheDirty.com. He threatened to post my first and last name with the hope of ruining my online reputation. I just received this threat a new minutes ago so time will tell if he follows through. But ladies, avoid this sociopath!

  30. ZZZ says:

    I told a POT SD: “For $2,000 per month, I’d do anything.” He asked me to paint his house. Is this a scam?

  31. Mil says:

    have a POT named sweetwalter…says he’s from Arizona and is 50. He seems like a nice guy. We have been talking for a week through email and today text. he asked me about the kind of arrangement I’m seeking and I told him straight out. He then said he wanted to give me 3x as much as I was asking(was looking for an extra 1000 a month, he says he will give me 3000 instead). I’m excited but then he asks me for access to my bank account to send money whenever he wants. A little red flag popped into my head immediately so I asked if we could do paypal or quickpay instead so he can send money at his convenience and I can keep m personal bank account info private. he then proceeded to say that if there was another way to send it he would but he cant and our relationship should be about trust. Yes I would love a sugar daddy to help me with these bills but mama didnt raise no fool…this sounds to good to be true. What do you think?

    • Freddie says:

      Scam. Never give any personal information, SSN, bank-account number. Don’t accept a check: it’ll bounce. Cash at first.

      • Freddie says:

        … and that includes a cashiers check, as those are often fraudulent (even though your bank will credit you immediately if it’s a cashiers check, when it’s deemed a fraud two weeks later, they will back the money out).

    • koray says:

      he asked me the same thing … do u think its a scam

    • Hdbsh says:

      Don’t do it that’s a set and he’ll ask you to give some money to someone or an organization, nope or even if he says he wants to monitor the money it’s a set up never give someone your bank account they can do illegal things

    • R R says:

      Any man of quality would completely understand your reticence. Any man who gets defensive or abusive if you’re simply looking after your own welfare cares nothing about your welfare.

  32. YBbag says:

    they asked for my routing/account # and my user name/password and me, being the stupid girl I am, gave it to him but had second thoughts IMMIDIATLEY so I right away changed the user name/password and emailed my bank saying I am only using the mobile banking on my phone browser and mobile app. I just wanted to see Def Leppard up close and have some extra money for college.

  33. Bee says:

    Ladies look out for JP91301
    he is desperate gets mad when you tell him you need your allowance upfront he is pathetic ! Seriously do not waste your time with this POS

  34. Nati123 says:

    Well I’m new to the whole SB scene, and I’m talking to a SD and I gave him my credit card number to put money in to my account because he said he’ll pay for it. Even though we haven’t met. And he did he payed my total balance on my card but after he put the money in a day later he asked me to do him a favor and pay off one of his engineers thru western union. With the same money he put in my credit card so right now I’m super confused to to what he’s trying to do, like the money is in my account but when I asked him why doesn’t he do it he told me he’s busy doesn’t have the time. Can anyone help me I don’t know if I should do it or not ???

    • reply to Nati123 says:

      Sounds like a scam…and now he has your info.

    • sd with open eyes says:

      You should do it, because going to jail for money laundering is fun!

      Actually, you should report this guy to the police immediately.

      • Freddie says:

        I think the scammers in this case have found a new ripe victim in SD’s/SB’s that are unlikely to report it to the police (or wives), as they don’t want to explain what they were doing online when the money was stolen. As an SD who’s been ripped-off, I know I’m powerless to do anything (and I know her real name, where she lives, even her real facebook page!)

        Since we’re seeing the old “Nigerian Prince” scam played against SB’s a lot lately, SA should post a warning at login.

    • Jaybird923 says:

      It’s a scam don’t buy anything or use that money at all!!

      You the bounced check scheme. You give someone a bad check they deposit it they then ask you to buy something or wire some of the money to them. You do that and when the bank processes the check/payment and find out its fake or insufficient funds in his account they reverse the deposit and you owe the bank for the money you used.

      Come on girls wake up and use some common sense!!! No one is going to give you something for nothing.Wealthy people didn’t get that way by being stupid. Why would a guy you’ve never met give you a shit load of cash? Would you do it? If it sounds to good to be true than 99%of the time it is

    • Freddie says:

      Do not. This is the oldest scam: whatever was used to pay-off your balance will bounce, and you’ll have both the debt and have paid unrecoverable money through Western Union.

    • Kitty91 says:

      Don’t do it

    • Tasha says:

      This guy tried to do this EXACT same thing to me last night! Once he said he was so busy and he needed a sugar baby that would would relieve his stress and help him with his job I knew something was off. He then said he needed me to pay his engineering partners by doing cash outs and I told him straight up that I want nothing to do with illegal work and maybe he needed to find another sugar baby. He tries to bribe me with money of course but no amount of money could make me risk my freedom lol

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes, this is a scam. Your card is funded using a stolen account and then you authorize the release of available funds. You should expect to firstly, have your account forced closed. Secondly, you will owe the funds he put in, plus the amount you paid out. In other words, you’ll owe double.

  35. FLAG *Casual_fun* says:

    I used to think that California was only 3 hours behind Michigan.
    I’ve discovered in the fantasy world of SA, one can now hop aboard a plane, hit a worm hole, and travel back in time, now making them 36, instead of 44.

    The only discretion this person is concerned with is their own.

    • Freddie says:

      Imagine flying her to Hawai’i only to find out her pics were -40 lbs ago 😉 … that’s when I was naive (er). Every time I buy a plane ticket, I just ask for a snapshot of their DL… as some don’t even recall their middle name correctly (and don’t understand that the TSA will not go for their SA profile), and they always say. before giving it to me “I lied about my age on my profile…”, usually to get them back-under 30. Like I really care about a couple of years (but, yes, 36 vs. 44 is extreme… you might want to drop her name here, as SA would do nothing about it). Expect lies in the profile. “Average” is the new “overweight” (and that’s not a lie… that’s our demography.)

      • FLAG *Casual_fun* says:

        To Freddie,

        Actually it was a SD profile and that was the name, I think.

        I do sympathize with your experience, if I understood it correctly.

        While I don’t normally Skype, I’d be more inclined to do so with a distally located potential SD. It’d certainly eliminate the possibility of that form of bait and switch.

  36. Anonymous says:

    Ferrarilover78 has asked me for my bank account information to “prove his self to me” but when I told him that I would like to discuss arrangements after we’ve meet and gotten to know each other he insisted that I give him my account information so I can be added to pay roll. I played along like I was really going to give it to him and his account is no longer ha I’m not dumb nor desperate good luck on your next sucker Charles

  37. Anonymous says:

    Any info on bigdaddyforone. Hes been texting mee, asked me for my bank info to “deposit money” and deleted his sa account because hes a “one woman man”

    • Brit says:

      what was his name? I probably had the same POT. we emailed each other, then texted. finally asked about the kind of arrangement I was looking for and we came to an agreement. I personally tought that we would probably discuss money more when we first met but he suddenly asked me for my bank account info so he could put money in whenever….I suggested paypal or quickpay as an alternative and haven’t heard from him in two days….Scam

  38. Anonymous says:

    mandabby13 is from Denver and she will try and tell you she is living in a hotel but asks you to wait at a bar while she is getting ready so you are drunk.. once she shows up (hoping you are drunk) she asks you to meet in her in at her car and then tries to take off with your money.. she tells you she needs the money upfront since some other man from the site tried to scam her..

    • Anonymous says:

      I have to second this one, avoid Mandy/Abby, she was six hours late for an all-day date so we went to dinner. I gave her some sugar, and drove her to dinner. We each had a beer & a shot while waiting for food. Without eating, she complained of a tummyache and wanted to leave. Luckily, I’d eaten earlier, so the two drinks I had weren’t too much to deal with (I’m a big fella).

      But when she drove off and ditched me (supposed to be an overnight date, I called another gal and we had a good enough time to come to an arrangement) after getting back to her car 20 minutes later, she was drunk, small gal empty stomach. I should have written down her license # and called the cops, oh well I learned my lesson I guess. There is nothing on the level about mandabby13 from Denver, wish I’d checked here before our date last week, total scammer.

  39. Scammed says:

    Do NOT talk to zamtime on SA. His account is deactivated right now and I know why but he might reactivate in the future. He told me a 3000 per meet allowance and that he’s from Australia and can’t text but that we should use Skype. He asked for nude photos and videos and said that he would send $1000 through PayPal in a few hours. I know it seems naive and I can only blame myself but I have met guys who are very generous and he seemed very sincere. So I gave him what he wanted and he claimed he would send the money by 7pm my time, which came and went. I sent him dozens of messages and never received a response. His SA account is gone. I feel so used. Has anyone else experienced this?

    • Eva_angel says:

      NEVER send nude pics of yourself for money. You’re nor a prostiture right? Stop spoiling the reputation of other girls here because YOU are desperate!

      • SMH says:

        Eva_angel, she’s asking for help, you don’t have to call her names.

      • Tasha says:

        You DON’T have to be rude to her!

      • Anonymous says:

        It’s not her fault. She’s in a financial bind and these guys know it. They’re predators who rely on the fact that desperate women will be a little more trusting, in the hopes that they’ll receive the money they need. I’ve been scammed a few times myself. I told one man I needed $1000 for an attorney and that I didn’t expect him to pay it all, but it would help if he could give me a portion of it. He said, No I’ll be able to give it all to you. After our “date,” he hands me $100. I am livid. I ask him, where is the other $900 you promised me. He tells me, after you complete the other 9 dates you’ll have it all.

  40. Anonymous says:

    Watch out for SummerLane from Denver.. she will tell you a sob story about her dying mom and how she needs money to get her transmission fixed the next day to get her to the hospital. Seems sketchy! Never decided to meet her in person but when I canceled after hearing this sob story she blew up about wasting her time..

    • Freddie says:

      The right response would have been “no problem, I’ll take her to the hospital… what time should I pick her up”. Nobody gets their transmission fixed in one day… how stupid do they think we are?

    • Freddie says:

      The right response was “No problem! What time can I pick her up and take her to the hospital?” Transmissions aren’t fixed in a day… how gullible do they think we are! A better scammer would send you some tasty pics to distract you from her nonsense.

  41. Naive or not says:

    I am new..I have been on SA for 3 weeks I wish I had found this sooner anyway, I met a Pot SD for a date I thought we would meet and discuss the arrangement, he was evasive but charming we met in a beautiful restaurant in a very expensive hotel after a we had our meal and a few drinks.. I told him it was time for me to go home he said he would walk me out but he had to get something in his room first I was a bit surprised that he had a room there since he lives in the same city. Anyway we get to the room had a few drink and one thing led to another… it wasn’t bad I don’t feel bad about it he gave me money for my transport when I said I had to go. Now my problem is he wants it to continue this way! He is being evasive about allowance and basically just wants to take me out and have sex I have been avoiding him.. Now should I just tel him why? I am not all about the money but I have bills to pay…that was my incentive to join

    • Rick says:

      It’s an arrangement, he’s not keeping up his end. Tell him politely that you can’t continue the arrangement until there is an agreement on an allowance. He knows what SA is and it sounds like he’s just playing you. Best of luck

  42. sd with open eyes says:

    There is a new scam going around: Girls from China will create profiles saying that they are in your area (even though their resent location is China). Parts of their profile will be in Chinese. If you contact them they will say after a couple of messages that their English isn’t good and ask if you have a “perdate” account because “it has a translator”. perdate is a scam site.

  43. Anonymous says:

    I have run across the same scam 30+ times now. On the site they talk normal. Once they have your phone number they start texting and offer you to sett your own allowence limit. Then ask for bank account number and routing number. Then claim they need your passwoed and username to do a direct deposit. They are not willing to send money in any other form. It is alwaya a different screen name a different state but always seems to be the same MO and the samw story juat tweeked a bit different. If they were not so normal on the site they wouldnt get my number. Good thing i am no sucker i report them and send text message screen shots of evidence of there scam. Block number and move on with my day.

  44. NewNotNaive says:

    Stay away from “Ferrari CEO” on SA. Obviously full of shit. He claims to be 32, from Miami, and worth 100 Million+. He sent me this message a couple hours ago:
    “Hey how’s it going? You are gorgeous….
    So my budget is $20,000 per month – Would that work?
    If so, I hope you’re ready to hop on a plane to come and see me…. :)
    Bonus points if you like days at the spa, restaurant hopping, and shopping for shoes and purses..
    If that sounds good, shoot me a text (along with pics so I know it’s you) at xxx-xxx-xxxx
    P.S. Don’t message me on here because it’s a major pet peeve and I won’t respond anyway lol..”

    Obviously not a real SD. His account is only 1 day old which probably means he was kicked off before and made a new account. Anyone have experience with this guy? If so I’m going to report him.

    • NSA says:

      Also stay away from Maecenas60(guy wo threatened me) , has created a new profile English chap (completely different profile) . Maecenas is offline while the other is online, but they come and hide their profiles at exactly the same time . They are fake and that guy is doing this since 2015, changing profiles. He only want sex without arrangements!!!!!I call him an SD scammer/faker, don’t know the name for such guys, they promise dinner in a hotel and if you’re stupid enough to go to the room, ….STAY AWAY!!!

    • Anonymous says:

      Yes I have experience with “ferrariCEO” except now his name is “Gentleman CEO”. He asked me to get on a plane to Detroit Michigan and to pay the expenses for the plane flight and hotel but that he would reimburse me when I meet him in person. When I said I cannot, he said “ok” and sent a picture with 5,000 dollars. Scary. And why Detroit of all places when his profile says Florida?

      • Kaswela says:

        Yes I no gentleman CEO and yes he was a big FAKE!! He said the same things too me and also he wanted me to bring him a gift of some boxes on the first date so he knows I’m real. I immediately knew it was a fake and blocked him ASAP

  45. NSA says:

    What about SD that continu sending mails and only want sex during a first dat, no arrangement, nothing. In his mails he says he doesn’t want to give up. One evening he wanted to come immediately to my house for a cup of coffee. One mail later it was for sex. This man want only sex dates . I onder what would have happended if I had given him my address SCAM???According to the founder tis is not SD/SB and such persons don’t belong here. I’ve reported it, but knowing that they won’t do nothing about it, I also gave it to a journalist that I know quite well, removing personal details, so no ones privacy is broken. I also contacted a lawyer who says SD/SB is full with scammers and people like that. The site is also not as big as they say. I didn’t pay for such man.

    • Freddie says:

      Do not give him your address under any circumstances. Him asking for your address means he is absolutely a scam, and you need to block him.

      As far as “This man want only sex dates”, that’s typical. This is SA. Once an arrangement has been made, it’s most often the SB who no longer wants to be seen in public with me (only in private).

      If you’re looking for a non-sexual relationship, you should state that in your profile.

      • NSA says:

        I didn’t but he starts saying that he will use his contacts with forensic department (i sort of police in the Netherlands)

        I said I would made all his 700 mails public and that scared him off and that I would ask a lawyer to contact forensics because they don’t have the authority to do such things.

      • NSA says:

        I’m off the site, my friends are still on and see that he now has hidden his profile and is only online for some hours , before that the whole day ,a hidden profile can not be found by SB’s….

      • NSA says:

        To all SB’s , don’t be afraid of scammers, NEVER give personal details (address, your real name ,no bank account, only cash, try to use a public area where you make your mail address and mail at first only from public areas. The guy who sent me 700 mails and threatened me is hidden know because I wasn’t afraid of him. Be careful for meacenas60 of Rotterdam (Netherlands). Why is he suddenly hidden??? Because when I make the mails that he sent to me privately (which I legally can as he threatened me) his identity will come out and he is certainly afraid for that. He’s probably already making another false account, you can be sure of that, but please don’t let them scare you. Off course I’m in the 40’s and single and live in another country than he is.

  46. ScammedAF says:

    I think his user name is sportsdoc33 — anyways his name is Jason. Totally scammed me. I just wanted to be able to afford my textbooks. He said he’d give me an allowance, but every time I tried to get it something happened that made it impossible to receive the money. He did a fake paypal thing (even created fake emails), fake bank deposit (more fake emails), fake western union (again, more fake emails), and last night I sent him off with my Walmart Money Card to put money on it, again no money as I’ve checked my account. He gets really defensive when I ask him about the money. At this point I have to drop out of school cause I was relying on him for the passed two weeks to buy my textbooks. Awesome. Please be safe.

  47. OverTheseLiars says:

    Just a warning for sugarbabies, if you’re contacted by WorkoutJ in Maryland, he is a liar who offers $800 a week for a Skype arrangement. He asked me to send him pictures and videos and claimed he would send me money over paypal when he got home from work. Thankfully, I figured he was lying so I only sent him two pictures partially clothed. He then kept texting asking for videos and if we could Skype that night. I said we could after he paid me half upfront and then half after. Didn’t reply back after that. He is just trying to collect as many pictures and videos as he can for free. Beware of this liar.

  48. anona says:

    Seeking arrangement
    Jason B ET
    Claims to be 32 years old, from Baltimore MA

    “Hello there! My name is Jason and I just joined SA recently. I have been a sugar daddy in the past however, so this isn’t entirely new to me. I’m looking for an ONLINE only arrangement through Skype. This would consist of conversation and shows for the most part. My allowance is very generous and if you’re interested, I normally pay between $200-350 per show depending on what’s happening :) Send me your Skype username and we can talk details on there and hopefully get started soon! :)”

    I pushed for more info and he replied

    “A show usually means that you would strip and masturbate. Thoughts?”

    Ladies, stay away from this one

  49. DelRey24 says:

    What do you make of SD that messages you and later if you write back to them, their account is suddenly gone? I had several SD that tried to scam me, but when I look in all of my messages, they aren’t there anymore

  50. Anonymous says:

    To be honest, I’m starting to be a bit scared of this site. The first guy to message me is named Danny White, but I don’t remember his username. He lives in San Francisco, California and claims that he comes to my city every other week (which is in Virginia). The first few messages sounded ok, but he had bad grammar. When we exchanged phone numbers, that’s when he started to ask for nude photos of me and my bank account numbers (which I never did). We never met in person before that and that’s when I blocked his number.

    • Jizzle says:

      Yeah I got a message from the guy and had
      The same experience. And I live in southern Cali also at the same time another guy messaged me saying the same things in the same bad grammar and wanted me to open an account and his name was John White lmao like cmonnnnn

    • Anonymous says:

      OMG!! I’m dealing with Danny White right now. Same thing as you’ve discussed. I caught on real quick!
      Thanks Ladies!!

      • anonymous says:

        The same Danny White messaged me asking for my bank name, routing and account number. He refused to pay via Venmo, PayPal, etc. He told me “Just give me your user name and password so I can transfer you money. Once I give you money then you will know I’m not scamming you.” What a Quack.

      • Blank says:

        Omfg!!! This Danny white guy is all over I guess!

        I’m new to this stuff, so stupidly I believe him… But then he asked me to send the money to his “engineer” through money gram and I right away called and closed that bank account, changed my name passwords everything!

        He said he told his payroll officer I was his new assistant!

        I just figured the dude was dumb, said he only knew that way to do it because that’s how he pays child support!

        Ugh I wish I saw this sooner! I wish I stuck with my gut instinct!

        I knew it was too good to be true!

      • Blank says:

        Unfortunately I fell for this Danny white scam. I called my bank tonight and closed my account. Changed everything.

        I thought it was too good to be true, but after messaging for weeks I was hopeful.

      • Anonymous says:

        Oh my God I just dealt with this guy a little while back! He claimed to be in charge of the construction going on in my town which made him believable! After he asked for my banking information and refused to pay via PayPal, I cut him off!

  51. Sweet21 says:

    Hi im a young 21 sb and its weird this pot sd checked my profile twice and asked for my provate photos which is just another face photo. I granted access and he hadnt texted me in a week or 2 so he just texted me out of the blue saying check his instagram for pics of him. His one provate pic was of a beautiful lady and a blurry guy to the side. He claims to hang with the rich and famous yet i cannot find him. His instagram has no posts only a profile picture of a latin lady. Username : DalePaz 40 from tuscan ,arizona.
    Anyone with any experience with him?

  52. Anonymous says:

    Has anyone had any kind of experience with a ‘Torben’? He’s a 50year old caucasian man from Castlehill NSW, Aus. He messaged me today telling me a little about himself and said he does not want sex but just wants to massage me and will pay me $200 every massage?

  53. Glen says:



    Is only 17, underage! I figured it out before it was too late. She admitted her age and is still on the site.. beware!

    • Freddie says:

      This is one instance where reporting her to SA will get her quickly booted off.

    • Anonymous says:

      Age: 19
      Member since: 2013

      Saw this in a profile today. Makes you think…

    • Myob says:

      17 is age of consent if you wanna get technicial

    • Anonymous says:

      Age of consent applies when both parties meet locally AND money is not involved. When an out of state website is the intermediary AND money is involved things change.

      Consult a lawyer about how age of consent plays out when using SA.

    • Anonymous says:

      This site does not allow members under 18, right? You do see SBs who have in their profile their age as 18-20, and yet calculating from their date of joining, they would have been under 18 back then. Apparently SA allows changing your birthdate for some reason. So either those SBs were lying about their age when they first joined (as under 18), or are lying now and older than they claim.

  54. Cory says:

    His name is AltruisticMan and he is disgusting! He doesn’t actually have money.

    So first, I want to start by saying I asked him if he was white (I know, I sound like a dick) and he goes “Im turkish”. I could tell by how he was texting that english wasn’t his first language .
    He gets to my apartment and I say I don’t want to have sex. I start to talk to him to try to see if he’s worth my time and I immediately have a bad feeling. I’m alone in my apartment and I wanted him to get out. I regretted even signing up for the website. I should just babysit for rich families on upper east side, is what I was telling myself.

    He takes his gross thing out and I try to end the date. Then says if I hook up with him he will wire the money. I just wanted him out of my apartment. He’s out of shape, hairy, and I can see why he’s on the website. A voice in my head is like why the hell are you not calling the cops. I should have. I hooked up with him so he would leave, so yes technically I voluntarily did but I feel terrible. He didn’t even wire the money. I had only had sexy time with 4 guys in my life prior to this creep tree and they were all my age and normal boyfriends.

    So to sum it up, the guys name is AltruisticMan, he;s Turkish, in Manhattan, says he’s like 32-34, says he has a Bentley and a driver, only sleeps with models. He says he has a house in the hamptons. I really doubt any of the things he says are true (he doesn’t even have an iPhone soooo ahem) but just letting any girls know do not meet up with him if he says any of that. I feel like I should give out my insta if people want to message me if they have been receiving messages from the same guy so I can warn them but I want to protect my idenitity. UGH

    • Freddie says:

      Your first meet was in your apartment???!!!!

      … you might want to consider moving.

      There have been very few SBs who’ve allowed me to pick them up outside their apartment, never into their apartment, and that was after assuring the chemistry was good at prior meetings in public. I’ve even had some long-term SB relationships where I barely new what city they lived in.

      You never know where these relationships are going to go. It’s best you keep your home address private permanently, and initial meetings in public.

      • Freddie says:

        I feel my comments were insensitive: you were, by my definition, raped. Your feeling of regret for signing up to SA is well founded, and you should get off.

        I also didn’t say anything about believing someone who says they are going to wire the money. That’s well covered in this page.

        There is a certain level of savvy required by both SBs and SDs. I know I didn’t have it when I started, and was scammed because of it. Whenever I meet an SB who’s new to the site, I always point to this page as a great way to learn the problems that exist. “First meet alone in my apartment” has never been discussed, possibly because it’s such an obvious mistake (again, sorry to be insensitive), but shows a degree of naïvety that just shouldn’t be on SA in the first place.

        I’d also like to re-iterate the need for a ratings system on SA (as discussed before). Just naming the worst of the worst on this page is insufficient and probably ineffective. If SA wants to help minimize scams, they should institute a ratings system.

      • Jaybird923 says:

        She wasn’t raped or forced to do anything by her own admission

        ” He takes his gross thing out and I try to end the date. Then says if I hook up with him he will wire the money.”

        I really wish people would stop misusing that word just because you regret sleeping with someone doesn’t make it rape.

      • Anonymous says:

        This is questionable territory because she claims that she had sex to primarily ensure her physical safety. The money part she pretty much believed wasn’t happening.

      • Anonymous says:

        Rating system will not work. Either they come up with a complex algorithm, or allow eBay/Amazon like rating/review. How many men would be interested in an SB rated positive or negative by 100, 50 or even 25 men?

      • Jaybird923 says:

        @Anonymous 10:04am

        She never once mention she’s in any physical danger. Her only complaint is that the guy is gross. She was expecting money after sleeping with him.

        Her words:
        ” …so yes technically I voluntarily did but I feel terrible. He didn’t even wire the money.”

        If he would’ve followed through on giving her the cash we probably would not be reading about this man here.

        She made many bad decisions and she needs to own them. Making excuses for people just allows them to continue to make bad decisions because it’s not them it’s everyone around them fault.

        She was lied to and she was used but she was not harmed. Hopefully she has deleted her account and gotten out of the bowl because this isn’t the right place for someone who didn’t see anything wrong with inviting a total stranger she’s never met into her home for a first meet…

      • Freddie says:

        @Jaybird923: note that I said “you were, by my definition, raped”. Feel free to have your own definition. As far as a legal definition, she obviously (and unfortunately) wouldn’t get anywhere in court. Given the story she told, she asked him to leave, and he wouldn’t, so she felt pressured to have sex. She didn’t change her mind during or afterwards, she had sex unwillingly from the start. By my definition, that’s rape. I do concur with all your follow-up comments.

        @anonymous saying “rating system will not work”: true, this isn’t eBay, and the ratings system would be very different (see below in this thread of how it might be setup), and an SB with 1000 positive ratings, as you suggest, makes no sense. But, five or fewer positive ratings (even a single positive rating) from bonafide SDs would be a good hint that this wasn’t a scam, and scammers would be quickly identified (and probably close their accounts), and you’d be rightfully weary of any newbie who was unrated. Look at all the posts in this thread of “is … a legit SD”: a total waste of time and inappropriate for this topic, but there needs to be a place to share this information…. to see what other SBs/SDs have said of their encounter with the SD/SB. It would not rid SA of scams, but make a significant dent in the problem.

    • Anonymous says:

      I agree with Freddy. It’s a form of rape if she did it because she was scared for her safety.

  55. cutiepie says:

    FeelGoodLA from Los Angeles is a scam

  56. PT says:

    Guapie from Michigan is a story teller.

  57. Anonymous says:

    Jaymie21 from London, big scam artist, asks for £100 before a meet due to “previously others wasting her time” and then disappears once you pay her. Learnt the hard way, but never again! I have used Paypal using my credit card, so I have already alerted my bank about this transaction to get my money back.

  58. cominsgetscammed says:

    Chris Comins is a total pig. Orlando area.

  59. Vivi says:

    Hello girls do you have any info about DR RK from London ? He said his name is Roy looks like he is in the site from around 1 year ? Thank you in advance

  60. Eva says:

    Girls has anyone been scammed by a David London?

  61. Anonymous says:

    Met a SD that’s a contractor. He paid off my credit card but then said that I will
    Have to western union $400 to his engineer. Scam?

    • ohPlease says:

      Scam. If he wrote a check top As y it off get ready for the payoff to reverse when the check bounces or is reported stolen. If you send money to the 3rd party while your card looks like funds available fromthe payoff then you can be
      charged with 2 crimes. This process can take weeks. If it was 6 months ago then probably not a scam but he will probably disappear after.

  62. Anon says:

    Beware of “KissableLips” from New York. She asks for the email and sends her bikini pics. After a couple of email exchanges you’ll receive an email which looks like its coming from SA signed by CEO asking for verification. They aren’t even intelligent to know that SA send email only to the registered email ID. I happened to use a different email ID and I get this email asking for verification. DO NOT click on it. It will install malware. The email comes from “seekingmanagementceo@gmail.com”.

  63. Anon says:

    Nikkih montclair NJ is a scam artist. Take money and then disappears. Be careful.

  64. VJJ says:

    19 • Female • Montclair, New Jersey, United States
    Is a scam artist. She wants money even to meet up for coffee. She asked me $300 for spending 30 minutes for coffee. After a few weeks came back and asked for $150 saying she wanted it urgently for a trip and will Netflix and chill after she is back. Came back and said she wanted $1500 for her summer classes. When I mentioned about the Netflix and chill offer for giving her the money , said she has an operation and cant have sex till Septmeber but wanted the tution money to pay for August. Total scam artist. There are a bunch of those from Montclair state university in NJ. Beware. This scam artist’s name is Nicole Hanna..

  65. anon says:

    possible scammer is RichmanRusell (probably has number in it but can’t find his profile anymore), 48, seattle area but is in the military and overseas. He copy and pasted the same message to me and my roommate. After a couple of days of me talking talking to him, he told me his account officer needs all my bank info including username, password and security questions with answers. I’m new to this but it doesn’t seem safe

  66. Anonomnomnom says:

    62, Carbondale, Colorado, United States

    just wasting your time with text and will not pay. at least for me.

  67. Datofella says:

    The ‘good looking women’ are 95% scammers. Lots of profiles are run by one person and they forget sometimes what roll they are in. I had one named Kristen something PM me and say “Hi Im Carl”– 5 secs later “Oh sorry i made a mistake-Im Kristen Ahahaaha. I just got of the phone with an ‘NYU College Girl” She didnt know where the President of NYU’s office was or what his name was-She sounded 30 and was supposed to be 19- Ahahaha-I also had a ‘girl’ who was going to do a Skype show for me at a cost. She was very clearly Trans – a voice like a man imitating a woman and Bad Doctor Lips the size of my fist.
    Im having fun exposing them. When they know I know- they delete their ID

    I guess they are finding some suckers but they ain getting me

  68. Lourie Fuentes says:

    Steer clear from Rivera001 – Total Scam, wanted me to send my account info so that his officer can wire me funds, when I said no he started to harrass me.

  69. Anonymous says:

    A SB in East Baltimore claims to like sushi and uses photos of a stunningly attractive person. That SB uses multiple accounts as the old ones get banned. You will never get to meet that SB.

  70. Anonymous says:

    James from Portland Oregon. British guy. Married. All salt. Will promise you the world, deliver nothing. Married men really do make the worse SD’s because they have to hide everything from their wives. Doesn’t leave a lot of room for generosity…. Stay away ladies. Stay far, far away.

  71. Bee says:

    Please look out for TAKEACHANCENOW he is an older overweight Indian man from north ridge , he was very nice at first offered to pay for my uber which was a total of 160$ than we met at a Starbucks and agreed on 3k monthly. Than we went for a hotel when I told him I need my monthly allowance upfront before anything. He gave me 200$ like I was desperate I said no! And he said I’ll give u the rest next time or I will wire it. Ladies I let him get undressed and left the room got my own uber and went home!!!!!! Always get your full amount upfront don’t be dumb.

  72. Wah says:

    I really don’t mind sending someone some tease pics. I’m confident in my body and self, it’s that the younger “sugar” or should I say, SPLENDA- daddies, want you to send them EVERYTHING. If we were meeting, and I agreed to be intimate if things went well, why must I send a photo of me naked from every angle? They’re pic collectors and looking for texting bodies and anyone in NYC who would love to save themselves the time I wasted, gladly comment so I can expose their usernames.

  73. Wah says:

    So here’s what I’ve learned so far about this website.. (Me- 20 y/o, college student, NYC, tan skin, hazel eyes, thin)

    -The younger “sugar daddies” are so disgustingly rude I really have actually been messed up for days now giving some 27 year old my number. The stuff he was texting me felt like it was high school all over again. They ask for tons of naked pictures, to face time, they actually expect you to “sext” with them- it’s a
    joke. Ladies, your real deal is with guys 40+.

    -A bunch of dudes who are “self employed” join here when in reality they can’t provide any information on what school they went to, major, or job- just they “g0t m0ney”… Right, luckily I grew up in east NY so I’m very used to their tactics.

    -90% of them want sex. Really when it comes down to it, they’re just looking to have sex with you. Make decisions with your own discretion
    with that, we’re all consensual adults.

    That’s about it. Still yet to meet someone I don’t get a rotten feeling about.

    • Anonymous says:

      Uhhhhh can I vent about how all these guys are assholes really fast?! Same.

    • Anonymous says:

      “90% of them want sex. Really when it comes down to it, they’re just looking to have sex with you.”

      The only part of that that should be even remotely surprising to you is that it’s only 90%.

    • Anonymous says:

      Be glad that they are interested in you even for sex. When sweettalking sex dolls are as good or better than what women provide then the only men that would pay attention to would be those looking for kids and human nannies.

    • Anonymous says:

      Similar argument can be made about men that they are as good as their sperm.

      However sperm banks have existed forever but women want men for their money and other resources.

    • anonkit says:

      can i please know this 27 year old’s account name?? i feel like i had an encounter!

  74. Ineeners says:

    I don’t understand why SD would want to scam a SB… Obviously we do not have the money to give away, what makes them think so? I haven’t been scammed. Everyone person I’ve been with off this site has been a serious, mature and honest person. The only issue I’ve come across is my recent active date. I get random messages throughout the week so I check them not that I’m interested so I always get questioned by my SD. He said he wanted to see how committed I am to him.

    • Anonymous says:

      Ya why would they try to scam for money when I’m broke and want money from him. He would have to be stupid

  75. New to this says:

    Does anyone have any info on papabear90? Trying to make an arrangement and he said he won’t send money to PayPal only bank account which seems fine but then he asked me to open a new account for our arrangement

    • boricuamorena says:

      NO. Take CASH.

      • New to this says:

        He lives in a different state than me

      • obvious says:

        That is a common scam!!! The money he places in your account in not his, just information and accounts he/she was able to grasp. NEVER open an account for anyone, it will only lead to you being in trouble for fraud

    • NC_HUSTLER says:

      DON’T make arrangements with people from different states, especially the ones asking for your account information. God, why are so many people so naive? Use common sense.

    • Anonymous says:

      Don’t send him anything. He is asking for my account login for my bank. I had to report him.

    • Anonymous says:

      Be aware of Papabear he wanted my bank acct info and told me I would be getting my allowance on mon and wed of 7k on each day then he was going to deposit more into my acct and i was to take the rest and to wire it to the orpanage he was going to confirm it with his AO AND GIVE me all the info but he wante the login and password to my computer and i said no he got pissed i told me i lacked trust and told him he didnt need it i knew how paypal worked and if he couldnt do this way then forgetit and havent heard from him since

  76. Janet says:

    So I’m new to the whole “sugar bowl” & I started talking to this guy. The first couple days we were talking he said he wanted to buy me a car but he wanted me to put a deposit on it (to show im really committed). The problem is something in me says it’s a scam. When we first were talking he said he would start my allowance if i sent sexy pictures but I have yet to get it. He says I’ll get it after i put a small deposit on the car. He has sent me several pictures we just never spoke on the phone. What should i do?

  77. Me says:

    A guy name Americ is fake sugar daddy. He mentioned offered $5-$8k a month for allowance but after once he will not be contactable.

  78. boricuamorena says:

    ((NYC CHECK)) I’m new and really paranoid..

    Andy (36)
    Sammy (50)
    Alex (40) (yellow lambo in his pictures)

    And- ****ALERT*** @attystud is a PEDOPHILE who admitted into messages having sex with a 15 year old, then said they would gladly with a 13/14 year old old and wish they did!!!!!!!

  79. SeriousSD says:

    Talking to a girl from another state. She used to live in my current state, but moved recently (can confirm that her current area code is from my area). She is planning on traveling here next month, and asked me to get her a hotel room for 1 night as her flight arrives at midnight. Is there anything I should know or be wary of? I don’t see too many problems with this, and booking a room far in advance shouldn’t be too costly

    • Freddie says:

      All she’s asking for is the room (she’s doing the airfare)? That money is, of course, at risk: she could just need a place to stay before visiting friends and has no intention of seeing you (and the cancellation policy is probably 24 hours). You would guess she’s also setting-up a first meet, where you’d see if the chemistry works? Just make sure any other money promised is P4P (cash), and not in advance or even at the first meet, and all you risk loosing is whatever you put-up for the hotel room. It is common for scammers to just get you for a low-ball amount like this, thinking you’d not waste your time going after them. But, if she doesn’t show: make sure to report her here.

    • boricuamorena says:

      Hide your wallet while sleeping if you’ll be staying with her. keep your credit cards you tag along with you limited. Remove any SS card or medical card from your wallet. Somebody stayed with a SB at a hotel and woke up robbed.

  80. slimcaramel says:

    ok there are two guys that just tried to get me today within 30 mins of the other.

    • Tonya says:

      I just had this similar experience yesterday. Have been talking to a guy for a day or two. He then told me that he will start giving me allowances and will deposit every Monday. Monday came and he asked access to my account claiming that there was a problem when he was trying to deposit my first allowance. My gut told me right away that this is some sort of scam. I truly believe that there is a lot of individuals on this site trying their monkey business thinking that we are just going to fall for their scheme.

      • ohPlease says:

        You should give him a wrong lovin and password then say hold on and hit mute and say that the back just called and is tracing his attempt from a new ip as security and now that they have the profile and requested you change it that everything is good and give him ANOTHER password and when it doesnt work tell him the bank had issue come back on profile system made for his ip. Etc

  81. Annoyed says:

    The user by the name of helpandassist is a scammer DO NOT SPEAK TO HIM OR GIVE HIM YOUR NUMBER.

  82. Anonymous says:

    What about a user by the name of sugarlover120? Age 60, location unknown. Claims to build high towers.

    • Jay says:

      Im talking to him currently his names danny. We have been talking for about a week now we are supposed to meet in 2 weeks. He linked my account to his wells fargo acc & it sent two small trial deposits for verification. Hes been trying to send me $300 so we will see what happens. He seems genuine so far. We have pretty good conversation so far hes sent me pictures. He doesnt seem creepy. Just mature

    • He messaged me also saying the same thing . He’s Actially messaging me now . Feels like a scam . He doesn’t answer my questions & keeps trying to get me to send him my bank account info . Feels like a scam

  83. Lull says:

    Girls, I have just notice one thing that a lot Fake SDs has in common. Especially to those SDs who seem to be real. He could be in the diamond club, he could be back ground check. You two might have already met up for the first date.

    He has his “Last Active” date and “Member Since” date hidden. Think about that, there is no reason for anybody to hide it if they are serious (no matter a SD or a SB). When I first came to the site as a SB, I hided these two things because I didn’t want A SD to know that I was new. Therefore there is also no reason for a guy to hide it if he is not lying.

    • sbforsplenda says:

      As a SB who has had a premium membership before, I respectfully disagree.

      With my premium membership, I could hide both of those things if I wanted to. Sometimes I hid them because I didn’t want potential SDs to know how long I had been on the site. Furthermore, I felt a little embarrassed to admit sometimes that I checked the site multiple times per day, and didn’t want potential SDs to see that I checked it frequently.

      So, those details could very well simply be hidden out of mild embarrassment. I definitely have never considered them to be a deal breaker. YMMV.

      • Ineeners says:

        I definitely agree with “sbforsplenda” comment. I was seeing a someone off the site and I would still get messages on my account which I’d view and apparently the current SB was checking my profile to see if I were active and searching for anyone. I had to explain it to him multiple times but he seemed hesitant which made me walk away.

  84. Great post!Great confession! jeje

  85. Lana says:

    Does anyone know about jens11? I’m a first time sugar baby and need some guidance.

    • Tina says:

      Hey Lana!!! I am a SB and new to the sugar-bowl too. I have never heard the guy you talked before. But here is my story, wish it could help you a little.
      I had met 3 guys from this site by now and nothing worked.
      The First guy I met couldn’t even afford $2000 dollars a month and we both live in NYC. But he was probably the “best” in these 3 guys. At least, he wasn’t lying or doing creepy things.
      He gave me 200 dollars in total of two meetings, nothing happened between us, except 2 dinners in town.

      The 2nd guy I met was an Ivy League graduate. We first agreed to meet at a fancy restaurant at manhattan. But he changed the place 10 minutes before I arrived saying he couldn’t find a sit. He tried to sleep with me that night and of course I refused, but we agreed on meeting again. But he canceled the date a minute before I went out the door. Oh~ He texted me a couple days ago (about 1 month after his disappearance) asking how I am doing this summer. Of course, I cursed him and told him he was a liar and a loser, then blocked him.
      I only got $50 from him.

      The 3rd one could be the worst (or may be the 2nd one). He messaged me first and told me he lives in Orlando and had a 2 years SBSD relationship with a girl who attended NYU, but she moved back to Korea a couple months ago. He told me he would fly me to Orlando twice a month and pay me $1500 every time we meet. Yes, we met and had sex the first day. I got 1500 dollars. I actually asked him to book me the flight for the second time before we slept. 2 weeks ago, we met again in a nice hotel of Orlando. And I got another 1500 bucks. But guess what!? He disappeared after that too!!!! Wow!!!! I guess if I had not asked him to book the flight when I was still at Orlando during our first meeting, he would be gone by that time. Also, I know his real number, his job, his real number. But I can’t do nothing about it except wish him to die. Because we live 1000 miles apart.
      I got 3000 dollars from him.

      Now I am trying to take a break from this.
      A couple things I have learned from those 3 fvcked up guys are.
      1: Don’t do Pay per play or per meet!!!!! Never!!!! That only means he wants sex.

      2: First meet should just be a dinner or a lunch no longer than 1.5 hours.(If you are dealing with a local SD) No matter what he says or what he does, DO NOT Go Anywhere Else With Him.

      3:The men on this site are a lot smarter than us (I am sorry but this is the truth). At least they have 20 years more life experiences than you do.

      4: Have your arrangement discussed on the first date or even before that.
      Do Not trust him if he says I want to get to know you more or I have to test you. He could be a player.

      5: When you are dealing with long distance. It would be the best to have him fly to you for the first date.

      6: Do not think you will meet someone special on this site. I thought I might have a different experience than the other SBs and meet a cute guy with a lot money, I Was Wrong!

      7: Trust your gut feeling. For the first guy I met, I never felt nervous about meeting him and I didn’t know why. I just knew he wouldn’t be harmful. But for the last two guys. I didn’t feel right to see them, but I thought I was just too nervous to meet them up.

      • Rick says:

        I’m a bit confused, you got $1500 each meeting, why are you upset? Sounds like a pretty good deal to me.

        I do agree with #2, that the first meeting should be dinner or lunch but why put a time limit. Sometimes a good meal takes a while.

      • Freddie says:


        I have to take exception to a couple of points:

        1) I demand pay for play at first, until trust is built. That keeps me from being scammed (as I have been too many times). The “only wants sex” part is mostly true, but, I wouldn’t say “only”… maybe 50/50… there’s got to be a connection on both sides (which is why I don’t take exception to #2). This isn’t a dating site. Admittedly, I started at a location (SLC) that is nearly 100% SB scammers (having since moved, I’ve found the number of scammers dropped to zero, and P4P doesn’t need to last even an hour).
        3) You’re the first person on this site I’ve heard think the SDs are generally smarter than SBs. I think the fact you’re missing is: we’re not thinking with our heads (the shoulder-based ones). Then again, if you run into a psychopath, they will easily manipulate you, so good reason to always keep-up your guard, no matter how nice they seem to be.
        5) If I fly to you, I take all the risk (money and time), you take none. There needs to be a balance of risk… at least those risks that can’t be mitigated. Now, you should have some precautions when you fly: have the SD rent you a car and/or reserver a room in your name for at least the first night (which gives you a chance to reschedule your flight if needed). I once flew-in an SB who wanted a late arrival: I picked her up at the airport at night, and drove to my place way off the beaten path late at night; that should have terrified most (but, we had a great time). Given you can’t assume a legit SD like me, have that car so you can drive yourself and make your getaway if needed. Also look into tracking apps on your phone so you can share your location with a confidant back home.
        6) I reiterate: this isn’t a dating site. If I was good looking, I wouldn’t be paying for it (but, I more than compensate, in many ways, for being fugly).

      • ohPlease says:

        Rick sugarbabies do not have prostitue envy.

      • immortal walker says:

        I think Freddie is correct. Until trust is built, there is no allowance per the entire month, but just pay for play, period. This is simple, either the POT SB will accept that, or she won’t, but let her be mindful that her willing replacement is standing next to her in this site.
        I have been scammed about three or four times by POT SBs already in the past. The first time is shame on them, but the second time is shame on me.

    • Tina says:

      To others the third guy might seem to be good according to what I wrote. I can’t simply explain what happened between us just by writing. However, I really still think he was the worst among all 3 of them, even worse than the guy who canceled the meeting very last minute.

  86. BabyG says:

    Does anyone from the DMV area know about experiencedSDJim he’s a white male, networth is 10milll and he makes 300,000 a year. He’s seems really excited to meet me and is offering 1,000 per meet and wants to meet weekly for dinner and shopping. I feel he maybe fake but has anyone had an encounter. I did a reverse search and it comes up as a Verizon mobile number but that’s about it.

  87. Me says:

    A guy with profile name Americ is fake SD. Claim he willing to offer $5k-$8k per month but after first time just finding excuse said you offended him and he don’t wish to continue and not to give any single cent.

  88. Kady says:

    to talk to me. I really don’t remember much of him because we never met. He asked for my account & when I didn’t give it him he stopped talking to me.

  89. Tyki says:

    Beware the daddies that say shit like this
    “But baby I got my funds controlled by my account officer and she does just bank dealings”

    I’ve had one drop this and then say later that “his officer was out of town” so he wanted ME to buy HIM something! As if!

    Girls it’s a waste of time, if they say that run for it. They aren’t worth you

    • lala says:

      i think i met a guy and he was talking about having his account manager send me funds 😩 did you find out after or before you sent him your information ?

    • Tiara says:

      Omg the same thing happened to me my new sd said he had an account officer and asked for my bank info. But I kept telling him no and then he just stopped responding to me.

      • Anonymous says:

        I Do not recall his user name but this his name Jimmie Young . We emailed back and forth it was sweet talk on his part and we exchanged number for about 2 weeks then he told me he was coming to my state, and that changed when I wouldnt give up the idea of him depositing a big hunk of money in my acct and taking his share out and taking it to another bank for him he wanted on line access to my bank acct and a address I i did not give him the on line info but he has my acct info, my bank is on alert and he has a address I have a official watching. I pray that jerk gets what he deserves.

  90. san says:

    Do not approach below users in seekingarrangement:
    QueenBeeChels (boasts about going to gym and pinot grigio)
    Catie Chanel (swedish, no face in the profile)

  91. san says:

    Do not fall for any girl without a UK number.
    Do not pay any girl in advance

  92. Lola says:

    seekingarrangement name: Seeking FLR
    Name: Jeffrey

    After well over 50 emails I found out what he was all about. Him pretending to be sub wanting a Dom as per his ad, but that is untrue. He finally proposed a job as a escort for his agency! He’s quite nice at first so emailed outside the site; but he is a passive aggressive dangerous psycho once you refuse his proposition! Steer clear of this one!

  93. Scammed SB says:


    The user Jay H. B. at seekingarragment website is a scam!!!
    He seems to be a very serious man, promisses you a monthly help that he will pay every two weeks.
    On the first date he asks you to book the hotel yourself, because he is a public person (diplomat), so he cant get his name involved in any scandal if anything goes wrong, because he doesnt know you, ‘how could he trust you’, thats what he says. All the story he tells makes perfect sense at the time, but sounds so stupid after you realiz what just happened. He says he will reimburse you on the correct date.
    Guess what? he disappears after that first date and you are left with a bill of a couple of hundreds.
    GET AWAYYYY !! Jay H. B. is a scam
    (English is my second language. Excuse my mistakes. )

  94. Becca says:

    anyone know anything about a young guy, his current name is “damn, daniel”? real name anthony?

    • Kady says:

      Do Not talk to him! He tried to talk to me. I really don’t remember much of him because we never met. He asked for my account & when I didn’t give it him he stopped talking to me.

  95. Gia says:

    Also anyone in the DC/MD/VA area stay away from Arm Puller. He’s just crazy and insane.

  96. Gia says:

    Does anyone know anything about John R85?

  97. Sophia says:

    I’m new here and I had a request to send photos to a distinguished gentleman who couldn’t reveal his identity. Lots of emails transpired and I sent photos . Is this normal protocol ? Send pics first ? How far do you go with nudity etc?

    • Freddie says:

      If he’s asking for nudes, he’s a scam. I do think it’s reasonable to ask for a recent full-body pic (if you don’t already have a recent one in your profile), but clothed. No need to include your face.

      “Average” can mean overweight, since the average person in the US is overweight… so the profile data can be misleading, and I do find SBs who do carry a few extra pounds don’t include full-body pics, or one that is 30lbs outdated.

      Always take the pics you send or put in your profile to images.google.com (may need to use “Chrome” if the camera upload icon doesn’t appear), and do a binary photo search to assure the photo can’t be reverse-searched on the web to reveal your identity.

    • dontwasteyourtime says:

      You are being chadded google Chad

  98. Randi says:

    DC/MD/VA Sugar Babies: Stay away from Mike_Ant. He lives in Reston VA.
    He will say whatever you want to hear regarding a monthly allowance, then promise $700 for the first meet, only to stiff you.
    I admittedly made every rookie SB mistake with this guy, and he definitely took advantage.
    The punchline is: he actually reached out to me for another meet – after stiffing me the first time!

    • Randi says:

      …. and he struck again!!
      He created a new profile/profile name (he’s now calling himself DaveB2B in Fairfax, VA), used phony pics, so I replied.
      His first message was almost identical to the first one he sent as “Mike_Ant”, but it wasn’t until he asked me to meet him at the EXACT same place in the same shopping center that I put it together.
      I put it together by asking him questions and giving him the rope to hang himself. I obviously declined his offer to meet, and he still had the nerve to ask for pics, claiming he would send me money via PayPal “afterwards”.

  99. Rachel C. says:

    Has anyone met some guy on SA called SuperAlbert? If you did, is he real or am I just wasting my time?

    • Tyla says:

      Rachel C. Yes I have met someone named superAlbert and I am wanting to know the same thing.

      • Rachel C. says:

        Thanks for responding to me. Has he promised you a weekly allowance immediately of like $400 and gave you his number? That’s what he did to me and I’m texting him and he seems like a decent guy. He hasn’t brought up any arrangements so far.

      • Rachel C. says:

        Tyla…SuperAlbert is a scammer. Don’t bother talking to him. This makes the second time I’ve caught a scammer trying to get info.

      • dontwasteyourtime says:

        Just google or pay the 3.95 to check out these phone numbers. Lots lately have come up as being serviced by TextFree (an app) then from those numbers being googled police stings. If you dont do anything illegal you sure dont need entrapment.

  100. Anomomomom says:

    Yeah being assaulted is never fun. So carry a knife or something. There us this app called companion. It helps. Also always have someone you trust waiting for your call.

    Some of these men are crazy.

  101. Aaron says:

    Daisy says:
    May 11, 2016 at 12:19 pm

    I think his account is disabled or deleted but be on the look out for C12H22011Daddy the dude will send you the most disgusting message you’ve ever read. And he opens by stating he has herpes (HSV-2 specifically) and tries to tell you that it’s just part of the risk of being a SB and what not. And then states these outrageous requirements he has of his sugar babies. He is married and his wife knows. He also has children.

    Here are the messages he sent me:

    The real SD on this site are older and married, whether we tell you or not.
    I am seeking an OKC area sugarbaby.
    I am positive for HSV-2. The risk of you contracting HSV-2 is the same as the risk of becoming pregnant using an oral contraceptive. Yes, there is risk in being a SB.
    I am the real sugardaddy deal. I am married with child. My spouse is aware of, but does not appreciate my hobby. You will be the “another” woman (mistress). I am a dominant, successful man who has earned the spoils of war. You are my shiny new toy and I am your ATM.
    Do not attempt coy seduction skills that work on hourly employees and bar boys, as you will be next’ed. In my world you will be cared for and are required to be direct. I expect poise, grace, charm, and situational awareness. You can easily cost me much more than your value by not understanding your environment. My interests are my businesses. My taste in entertainment is diverse and eclectic. I enjoy casinos, theater, and concerts. I have very limited time. This requires a dynamic SD/SB relationship. As I mentioned in the profile, I am not your spouse or boyfriend. I will see you when I am available. I will meet you in OKC or surrounding areas. We will have primarily overnight engagements and some afternoon engagements. When I travel, if appropriate, you will be invited. You will be given extended advance notice to make any arrangements. Just got back from a week trip to Seattle (you could have been invited for this one). When attending conferences, I desire a travel companion.
    I require intelligence and the ability to speak intelligently or at least listen with interest to other intellectual elites.
    Many women use this site for prostitution for which I am sure there is a market. However, my view is the SD/SB relationship is more than the base aspects of a sexual relationship.
    I see the SD/SB relationship as having benevolence (both the positive and negative connotation) in that the SD desires to accelerate the SB’s intellectual/economic/educational development while the SB allows the SD to partake in her youth, dreams, and beauty. At least that’s my opinion.
    Additionally, as in any relationship, quid pro quo is the requirement. I assume you understood this when you signed up for this site. To remove sex from the SD/SB relationship removes a key element of the relationship and is a deal killer for any SD. A dominate male wars in nature or business for the femininity of the female. If you don’t understand then either you are naive or just gaming for self-esteem. If you are struggling with your self-esteem, you are perhaps trying to be masculine and competing with males instead of recognizing your value as feminine and complementing males. From your profile, it appears that you understand this truth.
    Either my directness has intrigued you, pissed you off, or perhaps both.
    Let me know if you wish to put your plans into action and we can arrange a voice call to assess comfort.
    I hope that I will hear back from you. If not, I wish you the best. Should you reply, please specify your expectations and provide contact information for a phone interview to assess mutual comfort with escalating.
    Finally, please send high quality face and full body photos to:
    Please include standing swimwear or bra/panty photo to allow assessment of your abdomen and physique.
    Respectfully submitted for your consideration,
    A Real SD

    • Anomomomom says:

      I’ve gotten stuff like that before. It’s creepy. One guy wanted to know my measurements and bathing habits. It’s weird.

    • Anon says:

      While I too wouldn’t want to be in the same room with him, let me be a contrarian: if you want to f* your way to the top, this is exactly the type of SD you’re looking for. He’s arrogant, self-centered, narcissistic, demanding, and has no problem getting rid of people he has no more need for, psychopathic (but not criminally, just lacks the ability to feel guilt): obviously a CEO. Read his text with Donald Trump’s voice, and it’ll make perfect sense.

      His wife might hate his hobby, but (I assume) she enjoys a fancy house, cars, jewelry, maids, …. She may not be happy, but she is wealthy. Isn’t that what you want? He sets an exacting prescription that tells you how to get it from him or his ilk.

      He does get straight to the point of what he wants (and he’s not crass in asking for nudes like the slimy SDs). Study that and follow his prescription and you might last awhile in his (or other CEO’s) company. Make sure to set high demands initially (and be as direct in your demands), because there’s a good chance he’ll quickly tire of you.

      So, maybe “next” him for herpes, but, otherwise, study that text if wealth is your goal.

      (Listing the atomic composition for a sugar molecule in his name suggests he might not be stupid… and may have a sense of humor.)

      • Anonymous says:

        It is interesting to see the wide variance of perception to my introduction.

        My experience is that it is also rather diagnostic the “voice” a SB hears when she reads her first message from a real SD.

        Your specific perception is accurate, minus the psychosis. One caveat, I would add is there is a difference between a CEO (hired hand) and an owner. Owners will things into existence and assume the financial risk in doing so. CEOs cash a payroll check.

        Perhaps this will clarify a SB candidate’s perception, when she encounters the open, honest, and direct message from a real SD :-)


      • Freddie says:

        Note that I didn’t say “psychosis”, I said “psychopathic” (and not criminally). It’s basically an inability to feel guilt, which is necessary to get where you got. It’s very common (a prerequisite actually) among CEO’s and owners.

  102. jessika perry says:

    Anybody heard of clarke out of show low Arizona or is he scamming wanting my account info to link to his for transfers

    • Rachel C. says:

      Do not talk to Clarke Clive at all. He is nothing but a scammer!!!! Do not give him any info at all. I’m serious!!!

      • hello says:

        i gave him my information but for some reason I felt like something was off I been talking to him for awhile but I was told his last name is ginther until I looked at the email address name and other things. So I googled Clarke clive and his badoo account came up. I’m getting everything changed.

    • SB says:

      Did he have a daughter?

      • Me says:

        Omg. There’s a guy named micheal blaine. Said he would give me 500/week. N he would come biweekly, n he would send me checks. The first check was 1950 and he said it was a mistake. He said to deposit 500 to my account number send the rest to his client. So I told I wasn’t going to do it because I thought it was werid and made me uncomfortable. He said to rip the check and send him a picture. So I did. I thought it was super sketchy and of course didn’t even think about keeping that money. Now he said bye and offended because I didn’t want to dorder what he asked for. Total scam.

        He claimed to have a daughter and to be an engineer

  103. pleasebeware says:

    Mantrust1 is a scam and a sting operation. Not safe at all for a meeting in private. ONLY MEET IN PUBLIC, IN THE OPEN, WITH MANY PEOPLE AROUND.

  104. scamALERT says:

    Avoid jeffycool278 bizarre and linked to escort, lying about gender, various acusations from being a sting officer to a full blown escort

  105. West Coast says:

    Watch out for a guy named Willbert Scott. Claims he works construction and is in the UK. He will send you emails saying how he only wants a real trustworthy woman to love and he will send you spending money for the week but only after he trusts you etc but his grammar is off and the whole dance gets exhausting. I searched his image on google and BAM! Scammer!!! He went by Scott something. Another one is Brett Harrison goes by pamperbybaby on SD. He will be very brief in texts and right away wants to send $5,000/month. Wants to do it on Interlink with him as the guarantor so his wife doesn’t find out. Eager to send even tho he has never even spoken to you! Also wants to by his first SB a new car and house. I keep wondering how hes gonna do that without his wife finding out. Anyway…stay away from that. Anyone else know these guys?

  106. hithere says:

    has anyone had success with a promise for direct deposit or are those ALWAYS a scam?

    • Anonymous says:

      scam if you have never met the person.

      • Evangeline1000 says:

        I have had success with wiring out money to me without even meeting.
        We have been talking for a month now, we live in different countries. And planned to meet in a couple of months. He has wired allowance three times already.

  107. nadia bonnet says:

    I am trying to see if, I should go meet this SD. I am from Houston, and he want me to drive to Austin. He sent me a long email explain his wants and allowance, looking at these “scam confession” have me think that this bullshit! After the email(below), we start text, he rarely text “saying he is busying”. He said that he owns multiple company but he never sent a website for any. I also think he is bullshit because he said he live in Hidden Hills,California where mostly celebrities stay.He also using a google number to text me. He wants to meet at a hotel, and have sex to seal the deal.

    “Below is the information explaining/answering the questions related to me and what I am looking for in an arrangement. PLEASE DO NOT REPLY IF YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO COME TO AUSTIN/DALLAS/SAN ANTONIO FOR OUR FIRST MEETUP The specific details of our arrangement will be discussed during the first meeting. We will NOT have a 2nd meeting if I feel we do not have the “chemistry” for an arrangement (mental, physical, emotional, sexual, spiritual). However once you read this fully, then perhaps you will understand why I’m willing to be so generous.
    1. At the beginning of the arrangement (usually within 2 weeks, but sometimes sooner, depending on when the paperwork is finalized), I will deposit $5,000 into your bank account (or preferably we setup a Paypal account). That is money that you can save and not have to spend. I will deposit this every week for as long as we are together. If you are with me a year, you will have saved up to $260,000. If you continue to stay with me, I’ll pay the taxes on that money. Only you will have access to that money. Once I give it to you, it is yours. YOU ARE WELCOME TO USE/SPEND THIS MONEY IF YOU LIKE, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST IT. Look at this as an “insurance” policy that you will hopefully never have to use (if you don’t use it, then it means that we are still together). The main reason I put this “carrot” out there is to hopefully solicit a reply from a “quality” female. Any woman who has some self respect about herself isn’t going to “give up providing for herself” in order to be with a man, unless she has some “assurances” that no matter what happens, she will be taken well care of.
    2. I will pay for all your expenses by providing you with an American Express Black Card in your name (and building your credit rating). RENT, Clothes, cars, jewelry, trips, cell phone, going out, gifts, pampering yourself(hair, nails, gym memberships, massages, etc), all the stuff that goes into being a woman, I’ll pay for. It takes approx. 30 days for you to receive this card in the mail.”

    • Anonymous says:

      Complete scam. Don’t go and block his booty now!

      • Freddie says:

        Your response probably needs explanation:

        1) “Discuss the details at our first meet… where we’ll see if there is sexual chemistry”. That’s code for “the first time is a freebee for me, and you’re paying your way here too”. There won’t be a second meet.

        2) He’ll be depositing the money two weeks after the first meet, and you’ll get a credit card a month later… i.e. you’ll never see any money. CASH UP FRONT UNTIL TRUST IS BUILT. If he wants to give you a check (etc…), you need to make sure it clears and the money is in the bank before you see him, which makes the risk all his (that you’ll even show once you have the cash), so again: CASH UNTIL TRUST IS BUILT. Pay for play to start. I know SA hates that, but with all the scams, it’s the only way.

        3) “SPEND THIS MONEY IF YOU LIKE, BUT I WOULD RECOMMEND AGAINST IT”… because it isn’t ever going to happen. Being a millionaire in four years is “too good to be true”, so don’t be deceived. His tax math is wrong too: if he pays the taxes, that constitutes another gift, which then need to have taxes paid, recursively: he’d end up spending 400G, and would be better-off just giving you 350G and letting you pay the taxes (so he obviously doesn’t have the business sense an owner of multiple companies would have),

  108. Daisy says:

    I think his account is disabled or deleted but be on the look out for C12H22011Daddy the dude will send you the most disgusting message you’ve ever read. And he opens by stating he has herpes (HSV-2 specifically) and tries to tell you that it’s just part of the risk of being a SB and what not. And then states these outrageous requirements he has of his sugar babies. He is married and his wife knows. He also has children.
    Here are the messages he sent me:
    The real SD on this site are older and married, whether we tell you or not.

    I am seeking an OKC area sugarbaby.

    I am positive for HSV-2. The risk of you contracting HSV-2 is the same as the risk of becoming pregnant using an oral contraceptive. Yes, there is risk in being a SB.

    I am the real sugardaddy deal. I am married with child. My spouse is aware of, but does not appreciate my hobby. You will be the “another” woman (mistress). I am a dominant, successful man who has earned the spoils of war. You are my shiny new toy and I am your ATM.

    Do not attempt coy seduction skills that work on hourly employees and bar boys, as you will be next’ed. In my world you will be cared for and are required to be direct. I expect poise, grace, charm, and situational awareness. You can easily cost me much more than your value by not understanding your environment. My interests are my businesses. My taste in entertainment is diverse and eclectic. I enjoy casinos, theater, and concerts. I have very limited time. This requires a dynamic SD/SB relationship. As I mentioned in the profile, I am not your spouse or boyfriend. I will see you when I am available. I will meet you in OKC or surrounding areas. We will have primarily overnight engagements and some afternoon engagements. When I travel, if appropriate, you will be invited. You will be given extended advance notice to make any arrangements. Just got back from a week trip to Seattle (you could have been invited for this one). When attending conferences, I desire a travel companion.

    I require intelligence and the ability to speak intelligently or at least listen with interest to other intellectual elites.

    Many women use this site for prostitution for which I am sure there is a market. However, my view is the SD/SB relationship is more than the base aspects of a sexual relationship.

    I see the SD/SB relationship as having benevolence (both the positive and negative connotation) in that the SD desires to accelerate the SB’s intellectual/economic/educational development while the SB allows the SD to partake in her youth, dreams, and beauty. At least that’s my opinion.
    Additionally, as in any relationship, quid pro quo is the requirement. I assume you understood this when you signed up for this site. To remove sex from the SD/SB relationship removes a key element of the relationship and is a deal killer for any SD. A dominate male wars in nature or business for the femininity of the female. If you don’t understand then either you are naive or just gaming for self-esteem. If you are struggling with your self-esteem, you are perhaps trying to be masculine and competing with males instead of recognizing your value as feminine and complementing males. From your profile, it appears that you understand this truth.

    Either my directness has intrigued you, pissed you off, or perhaps both.

    Let me know if you wish to put your plans into action and we can arrange a voice call to assess comfort.

    I hope that I will hear back from you. If not, I wish you the best. Should you reply, please specify your expectations and provide contact information for a phone interview to assess mutual comfort with escalating.

    Finally, please send high quality face and full body photos to:

    Please include standing swimwear or bra/panty photo to allow assessment of your abdomen and physique.

    Respectfully submitted for your consideration,

    A Real SD

    No you are not a real SD. You are an arrogant pig who needs to calm down.

  109. Anonymous says:

    So I met someone on SA. They told me that they’d send me my money on the 5th then there was a family issue and they’ll send it too me 5 days after that. Are they scamming me or are they genuine? I’m really anxious because i really need this money.

    Any help would be appreciated.


    • Freddie says:

      … but, that is a red flag. The reason doesn’t make a lot of sense: did the family cut-off his money?

      Cash, up front. If he wants to do a check (or other), make sure the check clears first and you have cash in hand or safely in the bank.

      You have to decide how badly you need the money vs. the risks/possibilities of being taken advantage of, or worse… and how to mitigate those risks (i.e. think ahead of what can go wrong, and things you can do to either keep those from happening, or be sure you can quickly exit if they do). Also, make sure you know enough real information about him, that you can get revenge should he take advantage of you.

    • Anonymous says:

      You are being scammed.

  110. JL says:

    Indplsgent4fun keeps asking me for my bank account info and also asked me to pick up 4 computers for him. Beware!!

  111. mas says:

    let’s not forget about the scammer sugar babies all over this website who are like “send me money so I can 1) pay my cell bill and txt you 2) get a wax job 3) get a babysitter 4) pay for the accident I had driving to meet you 5) on and on and on” I have ran into so many of them that I put in my profile “* I will not send you any money for any reason before our first date, so don’t ask.” It drives away the time wasters. And it’s sad that enough men are stupid enough to send the $$’s.

    • Freddie says:

      … Don’t forget the blackmailers too.

      I’m seeing this as location-dependent: Utah was 80% SB scams, 1% legit, while I haven’t been hit by a single scammer in Hawaii. I guess that goes with Utah being the fraud capital of the U.S..

      Conversely for SD scammers, reading here, when location is mentioned, it’s usually Houston. I don’t mean to say it’s all Houston, just disproportionately so.

  112. GirlFromLa says:

    Post about Maximus65, his name is Stephen Cobos, ladies please beware.

    • GirlFromLa says:

      I’m still being harassed, he’s deleted his profile here temporarily but it will come back! He is also on other dating sites as Maximus65

      • Islandgirl35 says:

        Would you mind telling me more?
        I’m suppose to meet with him tomorrow but will probably cancel.
        He seems nice and we’ve had two dates and he didn’t even try anything.

  113. GirlFromLa says:

    Post about user: Maximus65

    He took advantage of me in every single form and has made me scared for my well being. He needs to be stopped because if you are nice, attractive and trusting he will say and do anything to control you to only treat you like trash. I’m lucky and got out of the situation before it further escalated and I hope my post prevent atleast ONE future victim of his.

    • Anonymous says:

      I am about to meet someone of the same name. What line of work is he in? Just want to verify it is not the same person. Los Angeles Area.

    • Anonymous says:

      Stephen Cobos is a manipulative liar. He will promise you thousands and not give you a cent.

    • Anonymous says:

      I am meeting him, can you be specific in how he made you scared for my well being? I feel weird, maybe I should cancel.

      • Islandgirl35 says:

        When are you suppose to meet him?
        I’m suppose to meet him tomorrow and am now kind of hesitant.
        He seems really nice.

  114. Anonymous says:

    Anyone met up with DrGoldman on SA?

  115. Darren do little says:

    Elke Bollington from Currumbin Queensland will black mail you for money.

  116. Anonymous says:

    Frank Is My Name: Montreal. He makes promises about allowance and seems kind, but really he is a cloud of cologne, weirdness and lies and his bills are counterfeit.

  117. syrupp says:


    Remember that face on that profile because the changes it a lot. He has no money and will ask you to drive to the woodlands to be and promise to compensate, his compensation will come in the form of a fake payroll check, do not fall for any of his tricks in fact if you do decide to meet you should take videos of him making and printing fake checks so he can be turned into the authorities.

  118. mantrust1 says:

    Mantrust1 is really from largo fl

  119. Annoymous says:

    Really nervous had a sugar daddy over first time, he said to transfer 5k showed me on his laptop, I checked bank account wasn’t there but he said should appear I double checked my details and that it was debited from his account it was. So we had fun and then he’s gone and I’m nervous the money won’t ever show in my account. Can you cancel direct payments?

  120. Anonymous says:

    Keep away from a black guy in his 40’s named silk. He has bad anger problems and turns attitudes fast.

  121. AnySB says:

    Mid-40s & bald. Married out of MO. Business traveler

  122. AnySB says:

    he goes by Dean. Also rich harper

  123. AnySB says:

    dean000096 is user handle

  124. AnySB says:

    Sugar babies….watch out for “Dean”, user profile Dean000096 on SA. Aka “Rich Harper” according to email address info. Mid 40s, Caucasian, married out of the MO area and travels on business. Wants you to come straight to his hotel room on a first meeting and also accept a Visa gift card as a “spoiling” gift, instead of cash. Claims he doesn’t carry an ATM card. Huge time-waster, like 2-3 days of rescheduling dates and then at the very last minute, the date plan is incredibly sketchy. Beware

  125. AnySB says:

    Testing this out. Last week’s commentary never showed

  126. Karina says:

    Here is douche bag of the day scam artist who will essentially end up catching some incurable std HOPEFULLY. He scams you by saying he will WIRE you 8k a month, asks you to do a three way with his African American partner and claim he is straight this is his fun. And tries to force anal and have sex with you multiple times and on a side note he is from Russia and goes by Alex or “Alia”. Thanks for using a poor innocent girl who doesn’t have either parents way to trick young girls.

  127. FooledDaddy says:

    Just checking whether anonymous posting works before wasting time writing a long warning …

  128. E says:

    I met a fake sugar daddy on seeking arrangement based in Sydney Australia. He claims to be 28 and he is of Asian background. His user name on SA is arrangementoz and he goes by the name Alex. He lured me to a hotel with the promise of an ongoing arrangement (cash in exchange for sex and companionship) and told me he would transfer the funds to my account when I arrived and send me the transfer receipt when I got to the hotel. Four hours later after engaging in explicit sexual acts I looked again at the receipt and started to panic because I knew something wasn’t right. I called the bank and they confirmed it was a fake. He stopped replying to messages. I’m now also afraid he may have taken photos or videos of me during our meeting without my consent. He asked me before hand and I specifically said no but he picked up his phone several times during our encounter. Beware ladies

    • Anonymous says:

      Wow I think I met up with this guy today for coffee! He was watching his back the whole time we were chatting. He then saw a girl walk into the cafe and said he had to leave immediately. So he did. Then the girl came up to me and warned me that he is full of crap and promised her friend a lot of money that never came! He was claiming to be a sound engineer/work in the music industry. He offered ridiculous $1500 for 4 hours or $2500 overnight. Knew it had to be too good to be true. Told me it would be transferred beforehand and that he would show me the receipt. Glad the girl walked in when she did and that I have read this. Although he seemed like a fairly shady character to begin with just because a lot of his stories didn’t really add up and he seemed too young to be able to throw that sort of money around. Sound familiar haha? Maybe it was even your friend in the cafe?

  129. She says:

    The scammer profile name is Gmann66. He says his name is Greg. Greg Thomas. He said he is married and has kids. But anyways, he promised 6k monthly and will be paying 3k every other friday and through his company since he doesnt want his wife to know and also if he should get a divorce, the money wont be trace back to this. I stupidly agreed. I met him on a thursday and he brought some seeking employment application to fill out and also how the money will be transfered to my account
    .i was supposed to be paid the next day. So we stayed in a suite and he promised to see me the next day so we can go to the bank. Next day comes and he refused to answer my calls and n text..what a motherfucker. I wish nothing but bad for him. He is in Houston/sugarland. Don’t fall for that lies. He only wants have sex for free. Beware ladies.

    • She says:

      The second time we met he made me pay for the suit which was 30bucks. He said he was going to reinburse me since he doesnt carry cash. I believed this because i was desperate. I learned the hard way. I’m short 30 dollars. I hate that fat idiot. Yuck. Bald looking idiot. Ugh. His name is Greg Thomas.

      • besmartgirl says:

        300 or 30? That doesn’t sound classy enough if $30. That should be first bright red flag. I am now writing a book. I don’t even care if i get hit with a libel lawsuit from some of the names i am going to drop. The sheer arrogance of some of these people at someone else’s expense!!!! It is not anyone’s job to step upand protect cheaters or scammers. There IS exceptions to all rules but there is also repeat offenders who take you and your silence for granted. Your silence too, was a planned gift, you planned to give them…… Ya know, just like the one they planned to give you but didn’t.

    • Anonymous says:

      Write a rape claim, he clearly has violated your supposed contract or agreement.

    • besmartgirl says:

      As per some of my other comments!!!, which you probably didn’t see before is that married men suck SUCK suck SUCK as sugardaddies. There was some rebuttals to my statement but i truly believe tbey were posted by a married man and not a sugarbabe.

      • Howmuchsugar4adime says:

        I am sorry that you had a bad experience,but consider the possibility that the same SD might have been just as disappointing if he had been single. Not all married guys are inconsiderate or jerks. It does tend to complicate things though. Good luck in future endeavors.

  130. Anonymous says:

    create another profile

  131. Anonymous says:

    Talked with one SB guy on SA, then he asked for email. We chatted, and I agreed to fly down to meet him. Two days before we met, he blocked me. We continued to chat via email. He said closes his account since we are chatting. When it came time to meet, he was “sick”. Good thing I did not fly him to me. SA says his account is no longer active. How do I tell the difference between being blocked versus his account is no longer active?

  132. Anonymous says:

    Talked with one guy

  133. orlandomap says:


    This is a fake. Any correspondence is stupid and he says he wants a smoker to smoke cigarettes and asks what brand etc almost like a fetish.

  134. George of the Jungle says:

    Extortion. She wants to immediately take the conversation to a cam-to-cam skype session. Her skype name is “Rica Mille”. No audio, and her texted english is poor, even for a millennial; I’m guessing she’s in Eastern Europe or Russia (and not Alabama, as she claims). She asks a lot of Q’s you wouldn’t expect… so I knew early on this was a scam… and lied. She does a wonderful strip-tease, that I recorded (too bad I can’t attach here… as a pic of her face is probably all that will survive to identify, since her accounts will go away). She then asks to “see yours for her to continue… a short flash later, she says she’s going to splash it all over social media. I had her blocked at SA and Skype before she could name a ransom.

  135. Sugarbabby says:

    New married sd say only send money by interlink loan company that’s way his wife won’t find out about . Apply loan w my name he is guarantor write his info ….
    I never met him only texts . Is this scam ??

    • besmartgirl says:

      Call his fucking wife if it is a scam or a joke. I really wish the married SD’s would GO yo adult friend finder. They make awful sugardaddies. Only divorced or not ready to marry make good SD. The squirrely married scaredyboo f’ers have got to get out this game. Rin them off and burn them withno mercy if you do give one a chance and he is stupid enough to waste your time.

      • Anonymous says:

        There are a lot of SBs that disagree with your opinion about married SDs :)

      • Anonymous says:

        I think there is room for married SDs on SA :)

      • Anonymous says:

        These comments sound like they are posted by a man/men. Truth is, married men may start out an ok sugardaddy but give them time, they become awful. Their mouths move to much with nonsenses or pity cravings. They want respect and freedom so bad like a single man has. When they realize sd took themin the opposite direction the caged animal comes out.

      • Anon says:

        I can tell there’s one or two of you with a bit of angst against married men. No problem: there’s a check-box to weed them out of your searches. Maybe a cathartic release here helps, but I wouldn’t file all “married men” under “scam” (the purpose of this post).

        As always, there’s two sides to the story: I’ve had an SB run (supposedly) over her guilt that I was married (then again, it may have just have been a scam diversion to take the money and run).

        And, there has been a time when I’ve used that same excuse to soften the blow: I wanted to break-up with the SB, but, not wanting to go into detail about what I didn’t like about her, I used my guilt over my being married as an excuse to end it.

        We’ve obviously taken up lying and cheating as part of our character, so there’s definitely a reason to doubt.

      • besmartgirl says:

        Coughing …and tapping my megaphone….
        REPEAT: MARRIED MAN-vaGINA suck as sugardaddies.

        Not even the reasons that you think but because right off the bat you are stepping outside of an alreasy established commitment because you are weak. Too weak to honor it, too weak to leave it, worried about getting caught etc. I can’t be with a weak man (single or married). Clip is, if the wife knows and doesn’t care then the man has already allowed his own value to be lowered. So then you are just asking for more abuse.

      • besmartgirl says:

        Ps: no guilt OR guilting here. Probably another reason married doesn’t work with me.

        If you let someone down- it just is, what it is. Even if that person is yourself. I have a paradox acceptance when someone attempts to guilt me because i not only don’t feel guilty but will actually start to justify my naughty behavior. Even then, i would rather be a hippocrite then weak.

    • Anonymous says:

      If you’re applying for a loan using your name, then you are the one who is legally responsible to pay it back. Do not participate.

    • Anonymous says:

      If you’re taking out a loan in your name, then it will be your responsibility to pay it back. Don’t participate in this obvious scam.

    • Heidi P says:

      OMG I had this guy too. Did he go by Brett out of NY? Same story! Im on here now trying to figure out if he is a scam. My gut told me so as soon as I was asked to pay $85 for his $5,000 “loan payment” through Interlink. Said thats the ONLY way he can do it so his wife cant trace it. He never wanted to call me and his texts were brief. Weird that he didnt mind sending me 5k without even talking to me. I told him this whole thing sounded sketchy. He tried to convince me to do it and its real..havent heard back lol

  136. levymkr9 says:

    Should have listened to the gut feeling. Her name on here is KatieC and her profile says Los Angeles, CA. 22, attractive. Says she is married and has had a SD before in NY. We texted back and forth for a couple of weeks and she jumped right into wanting to meet which I thought was strange as we did not spoken to each other at that point. I asked her for her information to schedule a flight and pay for it but she did not want to provide as her husband was well known in Hollywood. So she gave me some flights and the cost and we agreed she would fly in this Friday. I went ahead and sent $1k to her through paypal. You know the rest. Have not heard back from her. $1k was no big deal but but stay away from her.

    • bemyguest says:

      I am shocked that the nice guys are out there but women like this ruin it for the rest of us. Try not to get jaded. It works both ways because I am frustrated to find a missing puzzle piece. I need the perfect fit for an arrangement to work. The clowns exhaust me and make me want to give up, but I refuse. I know my sd is out there.

    • NancyR says:

      I won’t stand you up 👀

  137. appleBee says:

    This person is false representing. The phone number he calls from is linked to various complaints online regarding credit card calls and phishing scams.

    • floridianheiress says:

      I was just looking up that handle and Tampa to see if anyone else had posted how creepy this guy is!

    • dontTrust says:

      Mantrust1 is a tampa profile for a 47 year old man. He says he is a surgeon(brain and neuro etc) and he cant remember his own stories about which hospital etc. He says his name his Jovani. He says he is italian and he does have an accent but not sure it is italian. He drives a white truck. He says he is going through a divorce but still in same house as ex? Probably not true about the divorce. Why do these men think women will put up with these lies and games?

  138. racegirl says:

    It is going to take an “in your face to prove i am for real” kind of man to win me over and calm me down enough to play “cleopatra and cesear”. I am my own queen and recognize expecting nothing less in a man regardless if he is my lover or long term holder of my heart.

  139. racegirl says:

    Also, another one calls me from private number and will only give out his email which does deliver to his phone. I asked and i.e. said his friend had huge issue with a girl who had his number. So now i will not ask i am just paying monthly for an app to decode numbers and at first meeting wrote down his tag number. Second meeting the restaurant had a wait so i was going to another had couldnt call since didnt have his number and saw he was arriving but he didnt know i knew his car so he acted like no i not close yet but will just go other restaurant etc. He didnt get that i know what he drives. I said oh i thought i was passing you on road he said no no but just pulled around back of building. This one sets off more alarms about being a cheater then a predator. Thing is, dont treat me based on someone elses mishaps like your “friend’s crazy ho”. You have to be resourceful to plays these games with men.

  140. racegirl says:

    What about a guy who says he owns racetracks? Sends these old outdated photos. Offers huge allowance but always wants to meet on weekend but will have accountant take care of money on monday. So i suggest take care with accountant first and let risk be yours and not mine. Oh no, he can’t do that. Then i suggest meet on weekday so accountant at work. Oh no, he can’t do that. Then gives spill about savings account or a prepay and i have all those but off the topic. The real kicker is he sill not meet in public first and wants you to come to a travelodge because he says thats where most his contractors stay and he is meeting with them. Well that is creepy so i go back ti meeting in public etc but then he sayshe flew i to private airport and had to take a cab. I said whats that matter? Take it out of allowance? Or if you really fueled a plane who cares about a cab fare. Then he gets defensive. I finally said witch is more far fetched that you are begging me to help me and be my sugardaddy or murder and rape me or take advantage of me? Think! Someone really willing would either take risk first and be ought a little money ir say screw it and help someone else. He says his name is kevin but i doubt that is true. Also, when i played along at first to the creepiness he was saying something about coming in a side access door at travelodge off i4??? Oh so no witness in lobby sees you? Be smart people.

    • Jade says:

      He is a scam. Is very Charming and knows how to get you interested. Gets defensive once I asked questions once I saw this, he then tried to blackmail me since I am on the “site” and prefer to be discreet.

  141. Anonymous says:

    Yikes. Reading these stories really put things in perspective. I recently got scammed. A man used multiple phone numbers to talk to me, thus pretending to be various potential SD candidates. I finally met up with “one” of his identities, and he got upset because I wouldn’t go back to a hotel room to please him. It ended with me getting chased by him as I walked to my car — and getting threats from numbers he had posed as. Luckily, I did some detective work (he left some slip-ups behind) and found out his identity. Let’s just say, the police are aware of this character and his manic episode.

  142. elaine says:

    Before jumping into the sugar bowl and get scammed prepare yourself and do some research:

    1. Google “catfishing on line dating” and ” scam sugarbaby” and read the stories.
    2. Check Tumblr and Instagram pages and see how “rinsers” operate and advice each other.
    3. Check rooshvforum.com to see how fake daddies operate to get free sex.
    4. Never let your greed take over.

    Use your brain and follow your gutfeeling.


    A bit of self critisism helps a lot too:

    How realistic is it for a shrewd businessman SD to want to pay you 10k per month to be his SB?
    How likely is that stunning 20yo beauty to be your SB for $1000 and 8 meets pm when you could be her grandpa?

    Know in what league you are playing!

    • Freddy says:

      Excellent. One article says SDs should do “pay to play” to avoid scams, another says SBs should avoid “pay to play” to avoid scams.

      • elaine says:

        It all boils down to the intention of the P4P.
        I was very much against it years ago when I first entered the sugarbowl, but times are changing really fast.

        So now I think breaking down a monthly agreed allowance in 2 parts in the beginning is just a reality that protects both SD and SB to be scammed.
        After confidence is built it can become a monthly payment.

        It is just a way of protecting yourself and dealing with the reality of SA going mainstream, the influx of scammers and rinses and the rise of theTumblr/IG sugar crowd.

        But P4P as in :”Hey, I pay you $200 for 2 hours of sex in a motelroom” is a kind o P4P that doesn’t belong on SA but on BP.
        I haven’t changed my mind about that.

      • Freddie says:

        You at least have to start with P4P, until trust is built. It’s not BP, as you are trying to build some sort of relationship, but need to start with minimal risk. Even a weekly allowance is too much risk for this SD at the start (why hand-over $1000 for the first week, and get blocked after the first “meeting”).

        Interesting that many of the articles say “don’t take the conversation to email”. I don’t see a problem with that, as long as the email address is used for nothing else (i.e. not the same as being used on FaceBook).

        Maybe just anecdotal, but my experience is scammers are willing to meet face-to-face, but not Skype… I’d think it would be easier to deceive using Skype.

      • elaine says:


        Well you say you are intended to give $4000 per month allowance ($1000 per week) right?

        And then worrying for being cancelled after one date and having handed over the allowance for that week !?
        So what is the damage?
        You expected 2 meets that week, 3 maybe, for your $1000?

        Pffew, now THAT’s a loss indeed!
        Maybe you should reconsider being a SD in that case.
        If you cannot afford such loss, I highly doubt you can afford a $ 4000 month allowance to begin with.

        I am NOT saying it is ok to be scammed for a week allowance btw, but c’mon……

      • SugarD says:

        @Elaine I think he means $1000/month and get scammed for the whole amount -right Freddy ? Besides, no one wants to get scammed no matter how much we’re talking about .

        If he is talking $4000/month then a fool and his money soon part. For $4K my SB would have to work full time – coming over on booty call prn ,clean my house ,fetch my laundry ,iron my shirts, mange the help –you get my point. Most upper crust households run on that amount . SBs seem to have expectations way beyond any rational number. I even think $1000/ month is ridiculous . It is an entire college tuition for one of my kids .

      • Freddie says:

        I think we’re getting off-topic with questions like 1) how gullible I am and 2) the set value of a particular SD/SB relationship, but 1) very, and 2) Elaine was close with three “meets” over an eight day period (as much as I’d be in-town).

        But, it does point-out the logic to settle the often debated issue of whether SBs or SDs are scammed more. The Grateful Dead will tell you “the women are smarter”, and I’m on board with that conclusion, plus, any old SD getting the adrenaline rush that occurs when he opens an email to find some young SB saying he’s handsome is surely not thinking with his head (the one with the brains). I can’t imagine the attraction of money to an SB ever being as potent a drug. The SDs are getting scammed more (but not worse, as we’re talking money).

        But, back on-topic to P4P: even if it’s to assure that should one or the other get cold feet after the first or second “meet”, there’s no awkward refund due. So, I’ll stick to my guns with: P4P until confidence is built.

      • Anonymous says:


    • Anonymous says:

      There’s a broad and complex spectrum on which relationships sit, including financially dependent to financially independant in many married situations. SD/SB is just another variation. When I see, hear or feel the focus turn to money, Pay4Play,and negotiating allowances, the element of caring and genuineness towards the other person turns into a business transaction and following on from that, scams and people feeling they have in some been ripped off or worse.

      P4P in my opinion is prostitution. An upfront negotiated allowance is prostitution on retainer. and with both the risk of being scammed goes up. just as is the case with conventional prostitution. And i don’t think that that is what SD/SB relations are about… at least for me.

    • Anonymous says:

      How do you go about finding or researching these men on Tumblr or IG ? Needing a username or do a lot use the same name as on here ?

    • Anonomnomnom says:

      omg rooshv. UGH!

  143. Barry says:

    I was scammed by a person from Colombia with the tag agzlag reported it not once but 3 times and the administration has never taken any action. i urge people to be careful on SA in particular they DO NOT DELIVER WHAT THEY PROMISE IN THEIR TERMS AND ARE FULL OF SHIT WHEN IT COMES TO DEALING WITH PAYING MEMBERS.

  144. Drew5555 says:

    I have quite a few women who reach out to me, tell me how handsome I am, set the meet then nothing. I started asking them to do the following:
    “You seem legit, but would you mind emailing me a photo of you doing a “thumbs up” selfie to my ? A lot of profiles seem to have photos that could be taken from someone’s FB and NOBODY posts a “thumbs up”. Thanks, and I hope that you understand :)”
    Sadly, the 5 people who were very excited to meet me that I sent this to have not responded at all, making me think that they are all not legit. Thoughts?? Is there a better way to vet them?

    • Freddy says:

      There is no perfect way to vet. The millennial generation is flaky by design… so a lack of response really has no meaning. You’re lucky they just “don’t show” or drop communications… For me, the communications stop after we’ve made an arrangement and they have the money in-hand. I just got scammed again, and this one seemed so honest and sincere, I still don’t believe I was scammed (and I really thought I could spot an SA scammer). Maybe this generation is filled with psychopaths?

      I’ve seen this written elsewhere below: no monthly allowance, rather, money at each “meeting”.

      What’s really strange is the most honest SBs I’ve met at SA were escorts (or one-shot SB’s?). Pay as you play is the only way to go. Unfortunately, they get shut down by SA (while SA won’t shut down the scammers).

      I find one approach with most scammers, who tend to say “they’re new to this and have no experience”, is to tell them to “watch out for scams” and point them to this page. That won’t stop a psychopathic SB.

    • Freddy says:

      There is no perfect way to vet. The millennial generation is flaky by design… so a lack of response really has no meaning. You’re lucky they just “don’t show” or drop communications… For me, the communications stop after we’ve made an arrangement and they have the money in-hand. I just got scammed again, and this one seemed so honest and sincere, I still don’t believe I was scammed (and I really thought I could spot an SA scammer). Maybe this generation is filled with psychopaths?

      I’ve seen this written elsewhere below: no monthly allowance, rather, money at each “meeting”.

      What’s really strange is the most honest SBs I’ve met at SA were escorts (or one-shot SB’s?). Pay as you play is the only way to go. Unfortunately, they get shut down by SA (while SA won’t shut down the scammers).

      I find one approach with most scammers, who tend to say “they’re new to this and have no experience”, is to tell them to “watch out for scams” and point them to this page. That won’t stop a psychopathic SB.

      Note that the art of the scammer dropping communications is defined below by HanaiHI: they will get back to you in a few weeks, apologize for their absence, and tell you that they’ve been trying to make rent, and are $300 short, and fill-in some other horrendous reason why they need money ASAP.

      Also, I text those I’m meeting the morning that we meet to verify the place and time. They’re pretty good about “I forgot all about it” (etc…) at that point, so I’ve never been stood-up at a meeting. For those who “forgot all about it”, I give them maybe one more chance, otherwise, I figure they weren’t interested enough to keep a date.

  145. Anonymous says:

    Scam potential here is high. I’m new and it’s been my fault getting in these situations. I’m smarter today. ONE-meet great gal, monthly up front and together, another date. Gone. TWO-meet great gal, in pool, she has to go to the hotel room to get something, robs my cash. Gone. THREE-meet great gal, in room, p4p exchanged, pepper spray / mace, robbed my cash and threatened rape. FOUR and FIVE- emails from “Malaysia” , establish chemistry, USA gal, she’s there on business, all of a sudden tragedy strikes and needs money for a permit to ship exotic wood or antiques for shipment are held up at customs and wants me to loan her $$$. My rules have changed 100% and SA doesn’t do much to clean it up. Actually met a good woman, but what I’ve been thru is as much SA’s fault as mine. Live and learn!

    • Anonymous says:

      Live and learn is right. Too much lower class scum here.

    • Freddy says:

      Why is it “your fault”? It’s not… it’s totally SA’s for boosting their revenue by making us deal with all the scammers by not allowing any sort of rating system that would weed them out. This can be a great experience, as there are a lot of legit SDs and SBs out there… I just wish we all weren’t forced to deal with (and pay for) the scams in order to find who is and isn’t legitimate.

      There is always some risk: you can’t create a viable meeting scenario without some risk on both sides. SA could minimize their customers risk in using their web site, but have opted for the additional revenue the scammers bring them, to the harm of their legitimate customers.

      Somebody’s going to get hurt badly someday because of this, and the blame will be squarely on SA’s shoulders.

      • Anonymous says:

        People have already been hurt badly on here. Women have been beaten, raped and dumped at night in the middle of nowhere or even worse the middle of a crime ridden area. Wake up it’s already happening

    • Sabiá says:

      Geez, that’s crazy. Scam potential on here definitely is flippin high. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. I didn’t allow a third one to take place. Make your rules and stick to em! If the other person can’t respect that then they’re not what you’re looking for cause this scamming crap is some B.S.

      Actually had an SD try to make me feel like I was missing out on something great claiming to have all this money that was ‘coming’. This fool really wanted me to waste my time with him to receive an allowance ‘later’. “You’re looking a gifted horse in the mouth”, he said…

      and my response??
      “…anyone could see there isn’t much to this gifted horse and would’ve sent its ass to the glue factory a long time ago…”

  146. Kay says:

    So called SD wrote me a check at the end of the night. The check BOUNCED. Lost money from my account. The FIRST experience I had from SA. HIGHLY disappointed in the site. They should really verify these men better. His username is Je_voyage STAY AWAY LADIES!!

    • Freddy says:

      It’s the fact that there’s no feedback on SBs or SDs that allows all the scamming on SA. I’ve talked to SA about this, but it’s fallen on deaf ears. There are easily 100 SBs in my area that make their entire income scamming SDs, with SA’s blessing.

      There should be a rating system allowing scoring ranging from “dangerous” (abuse or extortion), to “scammer” (promises to give but just takes and runs), to “wants something for nothing” (not actually stealing/reneging, but looking for a free ride), to “fails to show-up for meetings” (flakey), to “gives a little, but not enough” (legitimate, but marginally), to “does what they say” (fulfills their part of the agreement).

      The scale/feedback would apply to both SDs and SBs.

      The problem is, if implemented, eliminating the over abundance of scamming SBs would reduce SA’s SB:SD ratio… which is the keystone of their marketing. So, don’t expect the abuse to change any time soon.

      • noname says:

        freddy not sure how your being scammed you mentioned ones that fail to show up ive had some dop that its no big deal just stroke them off your list and move on they are not scammers just time wasters people get cold feet at the last moment as for the others some will ask for money before meeting you saying they have something urgent to pay for just don’t send money to anyone you havn’t met good luck in your search it can be dificult to find the right one but keep looking they are out there good luck

      • noname says:

        do not dop

      • anon says:

        Freddy, I can guarantee there are more male than female scammers on here. Even though I’m not new, guys still pull shit like being nice on the first date, the second hits and he wants to go to bed, but oh there’s some kind of problem with the allowance. Maybe it’s a supposed bank account problem, and I’m so mean, judgemental, or a “fake sb” because I won’t trust that he’ll come back after with my allowance, and I’m making it feel like a transaction.

      • Freddy says:

        Anon: How would you know there are more scamming SD’s than SB’s? If SA doesn’t allow ratings, you’d never know. I see your point though: while SA needs to maintain a high SB:SD ratio to attract SD’s, they also need to have lots of SD’s paying $70/month. So, even more reason they promote they scamming and won’t allow the scammers to be exposed.

        Noname: so your point is there is no reason for a rating system, as you’re perfectly willing to waste your time weeding-out scammers yourself on two of the five points I mentioned?

      • Marie says:

        Oh my gosh. Never ever accept a cheque from someone you hardly know!!

      • noname says:

        freddy i didn’t say a rating system is unnecessary i said i didn’t understand how you were being scammed now you have made your self clear im ok with a rating system but how would that work would the person being scammed report it if so istn’t open for abuse too assuming it was honestly done you can still be scammed someone would have to be scammed before it shows up as a negative rating that people would avoid what i think you really want is to kick the bad people off the site which you have all ready said the reason they will not

      • Freddy says:

        Noname: you’re absolutely correct that a rating system has the potential for being abused. If implemented correctly, abuse could be minimized (i.e. proof of scam, and reverse-rating of the reporter).

    • KnownAim says:

      Bouncy cheque is a very very very old scam. Here not even a shop would take a cheque 😀

    • je_voyage says:

      To Kay’s response, she was on her phone 100% of the time even when I asked her to get off. Not to be mean, but I did say a few times she needed to pay attention to the date we had or go home. So as much as Kay would like to say, I scammed her. I didn’t.

  147. Anonymous says:

    Well I won’t put their numbers up but I will say….Stay away from Countryloving he’s another waste of time just trying to get you onto dirty subjects so he can have a wank, I don’t mind a bit of kink, I’ll banter with it but he’s a total waste of time. I then discovered he lied about a couple of things( I know of) as he had messaged another girl I knew on the site. Also Nicecitytype,,,,scouting for pictures and 3rd although their likely the same person Andy1960 (I think) claims he’s 34 has one private pic. thought he was sweet but just another photo jacker,,,,planned to meet me twice, flaked out because I’m too hot! “ok then” so I’ll not be sending anymore pics or giving out my WhatsApp. It’ll be KIK or we talk on the site and they’ll be no full lengths until the 2nd or 3rd date if I even go that far after the experience I’ve had in my 1st month. Still very new to this already thinking about getting out before I’ve gotten in now especially after reading all this. These guys are all UK by the way. I’m lovely too just pisses me off why do us sweet ones get screwed over? Probably we’re not meant to be there. I’m gonna go find a pay by click ad job online lol

  148. Kali says:

    Hey everyone. I’m a sugar baby on seeking arrangement . I just got home from seeing a daddy, we spent all evening after making am arrangment. I spent all my money getting there and back, paying for my ride and babysitter. The guy gave me a check. I got home and realised I could verfiy it over the phone. No money closed bank account. He also closed his SA account and blocked me from the phone. I can’t believe it I spent my rent money and everything. I feel like such a fool. I feel sick I don’t know what to do. Can I do anything? I have a photo of his drivers licence and the bad check. Any ideas?

    • DamnVixen says:

      Turn it over to the local State Attorney’s Office as a bad check. It’s doubtful that he’s going to tell them that the check was for “sex” …

      • elaine says:


        I have copied your mail to the most actual blog where everybody is hanging out now if you don’t mind?
        It is important but here nobody reads your post.

      • DamnVixen says:

        If you have the bad check, his phone number, and a photo of his driver’s license, contact this site and give them the information so that they can prevent him from opening another account (or shut down a new account if he has created one). Since the guys have to pay to message the women, they have his name and info.

      • Freddy says:


        Where is this “better blog site” to post scammer activity?

      • elaine says:

        I wouldn’t know of “better” sites
        But there is some sites where you can post scammers. Google them.

        I recommend to post it here, and copy it also to the latest blog where the regulars hang out.

        Try also the “Let’s talk sugar” blog”?

  149. Aeneus says:

    Yes, I’ve been scammed. By Seeking Arrangement.

    This website is a scam. If you’re going to populate the site with fake profiles, at least don’t waste people’s time driving to dates only to have the fake profile flake out at the last second.

    I’ve now had FIVE profiles in a row act interested, txt me, arrange a meetup, then cancel super last minute. The exact same pattern. 3/5 even sounded the same, referring to me as “love”. This is incredibly disrespectful to your customers. Just don’t arrange a meeting in the first place, please. We’re already paying significant cash just to be here, can you not waste our time and effort as well? One of the fakes put so very little effort into her excuse, she sent me a fake picture from the first page of google image search as her excuse. So transparent, it’s ridiculous.

    I will make sure to communicate to everyone that this site is a scam and the operators are employing the same deceptive tactics as match.com and other sites filled with fake profiles. I will also file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau. If this was an honest marketplace that would be one thing, but maintain fake profiles in order to provide an illusion is downright dishonest if not illegal.

    • Anonymous says:

      Thanks for the warning.

    • Anonymous says:

      Good luck, but it was probably just five regular girls you got in a row. There are so many girls who come here for fantasy play now. They carry it up until a meet and then they move on to the next fantasy that makes them feel like a princess who men would pay money to be with.

    • HanaiHI says:

      SA is full of scammers, and although they’ll get rid of the credit-card scams, they won’t get rid of the ones who take the money and run, like “V.S. Lovely” in Utah.

      The general sequence of events is outlined in my profile as a tongue-in-cheek “what I’m looking for” that I hope any legitimate SBs (should there be one) would share with other SDs:

      Looking for the standard SB at SA:

      1) An SB that will say all sorts of nice things about me, like lie about how handsome I am and how you feel an attraction and feign compatibility.
      2) Fail to show for planned meetings, and later provide a lame excuse as to why (“amnesia” being my favorite). This adds the “hard to get” component. Keep me guessing.
      3) Don’t respond for a few days, then send an apology saying “sorry, but I’ve been busy trying to put together rent this month… And need some cash immediately/desperately”. Embellish with a few tragic events, my favorite being “my dad just committed suicide”.
      4) Agree to whatever I request for an arrangement, take the money, then block all forms of communication.

      I know I’m not Don Juan, but, In the end, I feel like Quasimodo. These SBs must find me so fugly, they think I deserve the abuse.

      I figure I don’t need to pay $70/month to take this sort of abuse… so I’m gone.

      • HanaiHI says:

        Oops… got the name wrong on the one who scammed me for the worst: it was “VS. lovely”.

      • anon says:

        I’m real, attractive, educated and friendly… and most of the guys don’t show up for dates. They usually block immediately after.

        You are not alone. I wish there was a place to find the real guys, and I don’t mean the ones who talk a good game on their profiles, seem like gentlemen on the phone, then they offer me around $500 per meet for sex when we have dinner. Like all they want is an escort. I love sex, all kinds of sex even kinky freaky sex, as long as it’s protected. I hope to find a new sugar daddy to have lots of sex with… but if ALL he wants is sex, then he should go to an escort site and not pretend he wants to befriend and mentor younger women.

  150. Tom says:

    Xo Arielle New York girl in law school not real it’s a scam

  151. Tom says:

    Xo Arielle not real be safe

  152. Marie says:

    I was contacted by “Executive CEO” on SA goes by the name “Josh”. I don’t know what his deal is exactly but everything about him screams SCAM. First I got a generic message that sounds like something he copy and pastes to everyone. Red flag #1. In it he claims that his budget is $20,000 per month and he is worth 100 million dollars. He can’t send you an unblurred photo because he is “high profile”. Claims he is from Miami but has an Atlanta number. I was messaging him on Viber for a short period of time. Wanted me to fly out to Detroit!!! Sketchy as hell. I would also have to pay for my own flight to him. Red flag #2. If you are actually worth that much you would have no problem paying for the flight. Period! So I asked him to send payment first and he refused. I called him out on it and told him he was fake. Then he proceeded to tell me to go f*ck myself. Real winner!! Stay away from this guy. Very shady and who knows what kind of trouble I could of gotten myself into had I believed him. Always think … safety first.

    • Anonymous says:

      Josh lol

    • FatimaBagot on seeking arrangement says:

      Hi, I received a message from this guy today and told me to download an app. When I refused he blocked me from SA. Lol weird. Had a feeling he was fake. Any guy that throws big numbers like that wants to attract desperate people that’s why I didn’t proceed.

      • Marie says:

        I’m glad you didn’t go along with it! Some girls might not realize it’s a scam though. I’ve known legit rich men who never threw around big numbers like that and they didn’t have to use an app to connect with me lol You should report his profile on the site.

      • Frank95 says:

        What app was it? Something to track you?

    • anon says:

      Any guy wanting you to pay for your own transportation and he says he will take care of you, is a salty scam daddy.

      • Fatima says:

        He messaged me again with the same message but he made a new profil. He now goes by “CEO Chicago” I told him about this review and denied it was him. I don’t know what he’s trying to do and I don’t want to know. I called him out on it

    • Bee says:

      This same guy scammed me, beware. I’m not even sure what his motive is.

    • Randi says:

      He contacted me too… All the same weirdness.
      Sure… I’ll fly out to Detroit to meet a stranger. Seems legit.
      Do you drive a windowless van with “free candy” spray painted on the side,

    • Anonymous says:

      Haha… He messaged me a few days ago too. He left me a prepaid number on his message. He used the same tactic by offering 20k/month or 5k/trip but wanted me to book my own flight and hotel to Detroit to meet him. And yes, his name is Josh. Lol

  153. Anonymous says:

    Beware of “the reader” aka Don Miller from Orlando FL, He’s only looking to get laid and do the bare minimum. He’s a liar who pretends to have money but when it comes to your money he doesn’t have it. He is all talk no action.He pretends to have money and constantly name drops people. He’s taken probably all of the Orlando area out for dinner. He’s also a flake who will ONLY waste your time. Beware ladies!

  154. Anonymous says:

    Ha! I have found pretty good success just saying I’ll show up, admitting I’m a Splenda daddy, and spelling out my budget. The girls thinking they don’t have to look like an Eastern European supermodel, and still get 2-3k a week learn eventually….most guys aren’t rich. Those of us making six figures aren’t that exciting, but we will pay your tuition and appreciate you. It’s the rich guys that’ll f you on
    Ver like you are scum. To me you are a human being, just like me.

  155. anonymous says:

    Vancouver, B.C. — ladies stay AWAY from a guy (25 years old) named Sung. At first he will tempt you with his money and things will seem relatively normal for an arrangement but after you go out with him he will PLAY GAMES and try to get out of paying you. He sent so many fake e-transfer that would send and cancel. He admitted to a few lies that I have saved in my e-mail. At the end of the day I had to jump through hoops in order to get our initial agreement as I was upset he was wasting my time. After that he will lie and say he will pay you money (just because he wants too and his choice completely — no more arrangement in place)…but it’s not what it seems.

    He started stalking my profile and used a fake pictures in order to talk to me. He will play with your life. He also harassed my phone and called me using numerous different phone numbers.

    If you’re attracted to drama and constant stress, then by all means go out with him.

  156. Allie says:

    riverfish in Mansfield Texas is a liar, user and scammer

  157. mama g says:

    Ehaan121 Is a scam! My friend and I received the same messages from him word for word. And 2 other SB confirms it. RUN AWAY FROM HIM!

  158. Anonymous says:

    Why would anyone confess to Scam?

    Shouldn’t the title be “Scam Reporting”?

  159. Beachmami says:

    Jay Chitnis from Atlanta is a scammer! (305) 632-0272. After being with him for a couple days he didn’t give ANY of the financial assistance he had promised. He kept making up excuses even days later. Waste of time. He’s on SA, WYP, and some other sugar daddy sites.

  160. anonymous says:

    super-daddy in Bellevue Wa is a liar and will make promises and dates then do a no show and make up excuses then if you ask for a gift to show intentions he will email you and scream and go off on you for daring to ask him for anything and that you are crazy for not trusting him … then he will “pretend” to delete his profile because he tells you that you are the one playing games and then post profile back up … he targets girls 30-40 and gets his kicks from getting you to show up someplace and no showing

  161. anonymous says:

    Holger in Seattle WA is a woman, not a man

  162. Honey Bunny :) says:

    User redr0kker in the Charleston, SC area is a scammer. He doesn’t intend to give you any financial assistance and is just looking to get laid. Phone number is 8438479726. Don’t trust him.

  163. Anonymous says:

    Kara Turney…scammer

  164. Wayne says:

    Bella dreamm is an excellent sugarbaby that is if you like curvy girls she lives in San Antonio her number is 2105740213 keeper met a few times best bjs ever

  165. ScaredyCat says:

    How do I know I won’t be scammed by a new sugar daddy? I’m new to this and I don’t know if I should give out my account information or not

    • Anonymous says:

      Apparently there’s an app for that hun you should look into it don’t ever give out your details honey

    • Rick says:

      A few simple rules will keep you from being scammed.
      1) first meeting, no allowance, no intimacy. Meet in a public place. A real SD will take you to a nice restaurant.
      2) Expect the SD to pay for everything, hotels, food, traveling expenses.
      3) No intimacy without an allowance in hand, not promised for tomorrow or sent to your account someday. Cash works just fine. Anything else is mostly an excuse. And for us SDs, not allowance until intimacy.

  166. Steven says:

    I met up with Chancee from SA. I felt so bad for her. She lives in a one room motel. She is a stripper-hooker with a 2-year-old baby. OMG! I gave her money but did nothing with her because I felt so bad. Poor girl just trying to make it and drowning.

  167. sbbb says:

    Jay Raol from Tampa, Fl. He’s on SA and SD4M and I think MillionaireMatch. His username usually says “invisiblefl” or invisibleman” He raped me and scammed me. Then threatened me if I ever tried to do anything about it. His number is 813-466-2743. BEWARE OF THIS MAN

  168. Anonymous says:

    Beware of AJames1987 from Tampa Florida. She claims she needs help with money for a move. She will talk you into sending her money and then disappear. Her phone number is 813-260-0367

  169. Lana-mc supposedly a model and based in Dubai on seeking arrangements.AVOID.I stupidly agreed to pay half the costs of travel from Dubai to uk and half hotel costs.after doing so that was the last I heard from her!she is obviously a scammer!

  170. Anonymous1024 says:

    James1337 is a total fraud. He is not a real estate millionaire from California. He’s from MN and his real name is Steve. He will not give you a cent and may even try to make you pay for things!!
    Janes/Steve changes his location often and I would imagine he will chance profile names. Watch out for 952-999-3306

  171. Anonymous says:


  172. Anonymous says:

    Jonathen from London Ontario, Scammer

  173. Annoyed says:

    Stay away from CHRIS WILLIS on Kik at chris.willis69. Scammed me right out of my money while complaining that he did actually send me the money when I know for a fact that he did not. Just stay away from this horrible man. Wasted my time and energy for over two hours.

  174. Anonymous says:

    Stay away from sugar girl Kinberly858 from Ely/Cambrdgeshire. she messaged me for a few days and then one day asked me if I could help her with some money she needed to fix her electric fuse box. She said she was panicking with no power in the house and needed help. I was hesitant to give her the money as I hardly knew her or even spoke to her besides a few messages on the SA.com website. I finally thought I should be a good samaritan and help someone in real need. She gave me her bank details and asked me If I could transfer 150 pounds to help her fix her electricity. I hesitantly did so and she thanked me profusely for that. All this time I kept telling her I am doing it only because I thought she is a nice and genuine person. I basically ignored my own gut instinct and still went head being stupid.

    She then said she would like to meet me in London and thank me in person for helping her out and asked me for some money to buy her train ticket from Cambridge. I once again paid her a little money for the ticket and immediately after that she disappeared.

    There are quite a few scammers and fake profiles on this site. So my lesson learnt is never pay any money or entertain people who you have never met or know about.

  175. tntom says:

    hailey6 out of Memphis is a scammer. Beware!
    Hailey 901-443-7959

  176. Vera says:

    I haven’t been scammed yet but I think I just found two scammers. There are two pages for a “sugar couple” and both page has the same picture of a man but only one has the pictures of the woman. On one profile, the man’s name is Steve, he’s 42 and from Sausalito, California. On the other profile, his name is Paul and he’s also 42 but from Tampa. Apparently in Tampa, he’s an inch shorter too. Be on the look out, seems fishy.

    • anon says:

      OMG I wasted time on him. I can’t remember his number, but it is registered to a company where he claims to be CEO. He is not, and is a fraud looking for attention on the phone, and he will try to get naughty talk.

  177. Sandra says:

    I can say for sure most visitors will agree that this is a great post

  178. anonymosity says:

    Even though I am not the most sought after flavour of sugar – most of the messages I sent haven’t even been read and mostly nobody seems that stirred by me – I don’t fancy getting my meagre resources and my energy depleted by guys who are just trying to mess women around. I had thought that wealthy guys would be more intelligent than me, but maybe it only takes a hardness and lack of imagination and ability to put people down ……they all claim to have degrees, maybe you can get a degree without being able to spell. And what does it mean if a SD has been blocked by a member? I like to make my own mind up about people, as some people’s idea of weird can be my idea of interesting, but the downside is trusting someone and being let down, and if somebody else has had a bad experience with a guy, I suppose it should be heeded?

  179. Sweetredhead*269443* says:

    Olderman What I would suggest is that you talk to pot Sb a little longer and screen them a little better. You seem to be finding the wrong woman, I am sorry to say. Don’t feel alone, I have not had much luck and finding Any Sd who are who they say they are. Or who know what this site is about. They want to “date” me.

  180. Ittechgirl21 says:

    OLDERMAN: I am sorry it really sucks that people do that. You just have to be a bit more careful and make sure to get refundable tickets. your approach is reasonable and for the right lady it will make her feel safe with no pressure. I have faith you will find someone who will be real. I wish we all could as well.

  181. Ittechgirl21 says:

    Wow these people sound like real A&^ holes. I don’t understand what kick they get out of bothering people, using fake photos etc. I just don’t understand why anyone has that much time on their hands. I have never met anyone In person from this site. never met anyone that panned out to be real, there was this One Supposed lawyer Kept calling me asking me to meet him and then cancel at the last minute. The second time he did it I told him to loose my number,

  182. Olderman says:

    MtDon Thanks for the tip, Im not very active on here, Most discussion seems to be coming from sbs. The few that i did contact, had some some excuse, I think most just got cold feet, all pretty young. The tickets are non transferable and non refundable, so they can only be used by the person I purchased them for. There appears to be no protection, once you buy the ticket the money is gone.

  183. MtDon says:

    Olderman: If you don’t get any replies to your question here, try asking this question in the comments to the most recent blog topic, even though it is off topic. The regulars use the blog comments as a sort of chat room, since the site doesn’t currently have one. (They say they will be adding a chat room soon.)

    I don’t have any personal experience with sending tickets. But the obvious comment is that if they could have cashed the tickets, but didn’t, then the SBs probably just got cold feet at the last minute.

    Did you contact any of them after they didn’t show up? What did they say?

  184. Olderman says:

    Because most potential sb live in another state, I always offer a amount of cash, plus expenses and airfare for an extended stay, Does this sound like a reasonable approach? And yes, I have been scammed, I have purchased round trip airline tickets and nobody showed up, Most of the tickets are still setting out there unused, I just don’t understand that. HELP!

    • HanaiHI says:

      The ticket is definitely at risk. Two approaches:

      1) Use frequent flier miles. Some airlines will give them back to you, for a fee, if unused.
      2) Don’t use a major carrier. The SB may run with the ticket, but they will have to pay a change fee, and if it’s a small carrier (i.e. Alaska or Hawaiian), they are limited on where they can go.

      Of course: no allowance until (at least) they get off the plane. That’s going to limit who will agree, but, if you sense a risk (and you always should), you’ve got to hold the line… and, of course, explain why.

      Here’s the catch: in-between the date the ticket is purchased (plus the 24 hour cancellation/grace period) and the travel date, the scamming SB (who had already agreed to “allowance upon arrival”) will run into “severe financial problems” requiring assistance: “you gotta help me now, or I can’t make it”. Now, you’re stuck with a dilemma. You pay in advance once, how many more times does this repeat before departure date?

      Here’s one curve-ball to throw in this situation: “the change fee is only $200, why don’t you come now and escape the problem, and get the full allowance” 😉

    • Anonymous says:

      It’s better for you to visit them for the first few times. I wouldn’t skip to another town let alone city to meet a guy, especially one you don’t know very well… it’s just not safe. Whats happening is that you seem lovely and genuine and the offer sounds great so they think Yeah! But, then reality hits ( he could be nuts, he could hurt me) as you can see from some of the girls stories it’s not safe for a lady especially some of these really young girls. Maybe take a slightly different approach. Best of luck

  185. LOL_A says:

    Thank you so much, you are an angel. I feel better now.


  186. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    Sorry to hear that LOL_A Don’t get discouraged. There are some really great Sd’s on here. Just take your time and do alot of screening.

  187. LOL_A says:

    Just got back from a trip where I was supposed to meet him. We agreed on a cash gift. The guy never showed up to the meeting. No explanations, nothing…
    We had weeks of emails, phone calls, etc… The guy is only here to have fun.

  188. Where Can I Find A Kelleys Tire Credit Card says:

    cheap and wholesale tires

  189. brooklynnmarie says:

    OC: after thinking long and hard about it, i’m starting to see red flags going up as well. i think i’m going to put him behind me and move on. and speaking of moving on, i’m scheduled for a date tomorrow night with a prospective sd. (:

    ANA: that is an extremely smart idea. i haven’t actually thought about that at all. i’m not planning on giving my account info to anyone. i’m gonna try to stick to the cash route just in case.

    so any suggestions for the first date?

  190. OCSugarBaby says:

    Blondiful: I am not sure about the SB’s role in being a fantasy girl. I am as real as it gets. lol
    Trips and long weekends are a fun part of sugar dating. True SD’s are out there you just have to weed thru the indecent proposals. :)

  191. Blondiful says:

    I’m new to all this.. but I understand the basics- SD provides financial assistance and the SB provides fufilment of the SD’s fantasies! I just don’t understand why the majority of the SD’s on this site seem to think it’s a per visit type arrangement.. am I wrong or does that resemble what a prostitute or escort does?? Not to mention they want overnighters of loooong freaky stays for practically NOTHING! I’m pretty appauled with this so far.. are there any SD’s out there that really understand what this is all about?!

    • Marolincat says:

      Thank you! Yes I prefer allowance through a separate bank account or paypal. I understand in the beginning some SDs prefer to pay cash the first month during each visit to make sure the sb is committed, a trial period so to speak. In that case give it to her at the beginning of the date, not at the end! It would feel completely transactional :(

    • Rick says:

      I think we would all prefer a monthly allowance, but in the beginning there are some issues. SD pays 1st of the month and gets ghosted by the SB. The other option is paying the allowance at the end of the month. What guarantees the SD won’t disappear after 3 “free” dates and stiff the girl?

      So, now I do weekly allowances until a level is trust is established, and then move to allowances once ever 2 weeks.

  192. NYCSB says:

    this is for any SB in NYC:

    There is a guy by the name of Anthony. A commodities stock broker, he will offer you insane amounts of money to be his “GF” its all a scam! while he is willing to pay you the money promised his idea of a “GF” is basically you sleeping with his trading buddies. About 7 of them at the same time. No he you will not know about this until you get to his apartment. Just looking out for you girls. I almost got raped… thank god I am trained in martial arts and all of his friends were hopped up on coke

  193. OCSugarBaby says:

    ANA: I am proud of you for sticking to your guns. You deserve to be treated better. :)

  194. ANA says:

    Brooke… open a new account and set it up just for this purpose alone… specify that NO ONE except you can withdraw the funds… then give him this routing number and info… you dont want him having your “real” account…

    update on my situation…. he finally texted back telling me how he had a deal that went bust blah blah blah and for now he cant afford the agreement we had but in the future he will… my response is “let me know when you can”

  195. OCSugarBaby says:

    Brook: A live in situation is not quite the normal SD/SB relationship. I seem to think that this person is looking for a girlfriend? Are you prepared to put yourself in a situation like that? This is so far off of the normal sugar dating scenario. I have red flags going up all over the place on this one.
    Any way you phrase it, a live in is NOT an SB. I dont want you to feel that because you are new to this, that sugar dating is what he is proposing. Keep talking to us, we can help. :)

  196. brooklynnmarie says:

    well, thankfully he is coming out to see me on the 1st. we have great chemistry on the phone and talking but it’s a whole different ballpark in person.

    thank you oc.

  197. OCSugarBaby says:

    Brook: If you have never even met this person do not give out any banking information. He needs to come to your city for dinner or lunch so you can meet face to face. Why is he offering you money before you even determine if there is a connection or chemistry?

  198. brooklynnmarie says:

    edit: meant couple days now. not down. don’t know how i mixed that up.

  199. brooklynnmarie says:

    so i’m pretty new to all of this and have been talking to this guy out in tx (i’m in az) for a couple days down. he wants a live-in girl out in his new house. he offered to direct deposit some money into my account if i give him my rooting number and account information, or something to that effect. i’m not too sure how i should approach it though. any suggestions? i could really use ’em gals.

  200. OCSugarBaby says:

    ANA: Good Girl. I am sure you have not heard the last from him. He will most likely try to convince you that he will make good on his original promise. I would have him show the effort first. You have! Time wasters are just that. You need to move at the same pace. Don’t feel bad about this. You learned an important lesson. Real SD’s do not make you uncomfortable about the financial arrangements. EVER!

  201. ANA says:

    thanks oc… well i have been thinking about it and i think that maybe he took me for a ride… as such at this point i feel betrayed and dont know if i want to see him any longer.

    i just texted me telling him this “SD i dont think i will be seeing you on wed because it seems like we have a bit of an issue. we had agreed on a weekly allowance and i have done good on my part of the deal where as you have not… well not fully at least. if you cannot provide me with the support we agreed upon then its unfair for me to continue seeing you. i dont mean to sound like a B___ but it bothers me when every time i see you you put in my bag an amount much lower than what i was promised.”

    thanks for your help!

  202. OCSugarBaby says:

    ANA: You can email txt or call. However remove any reference or feeling of uncertainty! YOU need to fake being comfortable talking about this. Confidence is the key to making it work. You deserve the allowance and you are moving forward but he is NOT. Until you are both moving forward together you will stop seeing him. State this and make it short and sweet. Keep a smile on your face; you don’t want to be mean or short sided. He will either understand or make an effort or he will try to string you along. Don’t leave room for the latter. Once he agrees to the allowance, you can discuss the details as to how he will deposit the allowance. Paypal, direct bank wiring etc. Do not debate the topic. You have already agreed upon this now it needs to be executed. :)

  203. ANA says:

    Any advice on how to bring it up? I was thinking of texting him but every one i compose comes out harsh…. here is an example “i feel very uncomfortable bringing this up but i dont want this to become an issue. we had an allowance agreed upon and i have been holding up my part of the deal. while i appreciate the help you have provided thus far it is not what we agreed upon. i would like to continue seeing you but i need you to make good on your part.”

    is this good?

  204. OCSugarBaby says:

    ANA:Sound like he does not understand what a true SD is? Pay for play @10% is not an SD. You can communicate with him that you would like to have the full allowance previously discussed set up and deposited into an acount. Please think carefully about seeing him again until you can come to an understanding.

  205. ANA says:

    I am currently seeing a SD who promised me a very lavish allowance… problem is every time I see him he gives me about 10% of the promised allowance. The arrangement is for us to spend 3 nights a week together so I figured that on the third night he would make good on the full allowance. Well that was last night… and he gave me the usual 10%… how do I bring it up to him? i like the guy but when in an arrangement i think we should both make good on our side of the deal no?

    please help!

  206. tracy says:

    alot of skeevy guys read this blog to see who is hard up and then email them to get something and just play into what you need too so be aware of what you say on here is being read by people that don’t have anyones real interests in mind. I have been contacted by people that want to pay me $200 to have sex in a car, I am sorry but thats what a pro is for, dont bother me if thats what you want. and no I will not drive 5 hours to have sex with your fat smelly ass. these guys on this site need to get a grip. there are no real sugar daddies on this site they are all liars.

  207. Can't Tell you says:

    I made the mistake of paying for the plane ticket myself. I thought I trusted the guy. We had talked everyday for 2 weeks and he was married and said that he couldn’t put the ticket on his card due to his wife finding out. So the day I was to leave I called him and he was all excited about meeting me. When I got to New York-where he supposedly lived I waited at the airport and called him and he never answered. My trip was suppose to be for 3 days so I had a choice to either reschedule the ticket which would have cost alot of money or stay in a hotel. Either way I would be out alot of money. I ended up staying in a hotel for a couple nights. that whole trip ended up costing me close to a $1000. Guys are just as much scammers and females are.

  208. SuggiBabe says:

    I am new to this and just curious if most SD’s expect you to have sex…?

    • bill says:

      Are you serious?
      Men like vagina. You have vagina. He can get conversation from anyone.
      He has no interest in you unless he thinks you will look good naked.
      Meet him first to make sure you like the idea of his breath on you, his penis in your mouth, vag, and anus.
      And grow a spine. You like sex, decide if you would like it with him.

      • Rick says:

        A little harsh, Bill. But he is right, 99% of SD want sex as part of the arrangement. Heck, maybe it’s higher than 99%.

  209. LOL_A says:


    The thing I always do is to call the airline to confirm my flight. God knows I have made some mistakes with potential sg, but flights, hotels, etc… are things I take darn seriously for my security. I always make sure to give all the possible infos I have to my best friend before meeting a potential sg.


  210. paul says:

    I was recently scammed by a guy on this site. ( i am a guy aswell) He says he is seeking ladies to though, so beware.
    We talked for like 2 weeks then I was suppose to fly to go see him and he said all the arrangements were made and I was given a fake email with flight information and drove to the airport to meet him, and the flight didn’t exist and i ended up being out close to a hundred bucks.

    i’m having bad luck with this site, good to know im not alone though

  211. Kelly says:

    beware of jessestone228888, he is on sugardaddyforme.com with two different profiles but the same guy and different ages. When I called him on it he suspended one of his ads. I have not heard from him since. He was the first man I had contact with that I felt was my type and he turns out to be a fake.

  212. cameron sharpe says:

    Strange to hear this stories you have gone through….

  213. Summer 98206 says:

    Maple Leaf, sorry – I think yours was in the same city and didn’t involve travel? If so, my bad!

    To avoid this situation happening again, just make sure the gentleman puts business before pleasure, and you’ll be ok in the future.;)

  214. Summer 98206 says:

    Rachel, Jazz, Maple Leaf,…sadly, I hear stories like yours all too often on some of the websites out there that expose fake sugar daddies and scam artists (Google it and report these assholes before they strike again!)

    All of these situtations can be avoided by simply refusing to travel for first meetings. That way, you don’t get screwed over on travel expenses or have to spend a weekend with some guy you have no chemistry with.

    Put it in your profile so your expectations are clear: SORRY, I CAN’T TRAVEL FOR FIRST DATES. Do this for your safety. Once you meet Mr. Right, there’ll be plenty of trips and travel together later on, so don’t accept the first plane ticket that gets waved at you. After all…

    If something sounds too good to be true, it usually is – right?

    A real SD has the money to come visit you for a first date – and he should. By making that financial and time investment in traveling to meet you, he is showing that he is genuine and serious. And that *your safety* is a concern for him as well.

    You will also be much safer in your home city than stranded on the road. Just count your blessings that you came home safely from those situations; a few dollars poorer, pehaps, a lot wiser, yes…but thank God, in one piece and not physically injured. Seriously, some guys out there are just crazy. So please be careful and DON’T travel to meet someone until you know them better. It’s just not worth the risk.

    • HanaiHI says:

      There should be an equal ante-in. You may prefer all arrangements to be one-sided, but that’s not realistic. For the SD to travel to the SB and risk a no-show, he’s lost all he put in, she’s lost nothing.

      The SB should be willing to travel (on his nickel), and assure she also either gets the money for a ticket change on arrival (should she want to turn-around and leave), or has a guaranteed hotel confirmation in her name for the length of her stay. That way, both SD and SB have some skin in the game, as well as an opt-out.

      • Anonymous says:

        The SD is supposed to be finacially sound. You are the ones who can afford the risk you just need to be careful and listen to your gut where as it’s a possible life or death situation with a female. Two completely different worlds.

  215. lisa says:

    men always are fast to scream “prostitution” but if there weren’t men looking for sex, prostitutes would go broke. lol These men use the term just to get out of spoiling and obviously don’t understand what a sd is.

    • anon says:

      Yes! Lots of guys here promise spoiling, then pull the “you spoil me, and I will take care of you later,” line. They while about all the dumb whores on SA, trying to use their poor, middle aged selves for money, and they can remember the days when there were real sugar babes willing to wait to be spoiled, instead of gold diggers who think their pussies entitle them to anything.

  216. Rachel says:

    Yea this ass took me out then wanted me to go back to some seedy hotel and fuck him !! I do not do that lol then he took my purse and said he would call the cops on me for prostitution if i didnt fuck him .. guys are ass holes needless to say i slapped the shit outta him took my purse back and drove home .. but there not all like that just the one I have been on dates with great guys whom I LOVE lol

  217. sunshineberry says:

    This one is rich: One man messaged me and, for some reason, included the signature from his e-mails (it contained his work address, title, etc.) in the SA message. Of course, out of curiosity I plugged in the information into google and do you know what popped up? SCAM reports! His company is a farce, a scam! I wrote him back with the following message “Google cache is a bitch, my friend.” and included the link to the highly unfavorable search results…lol.

  218. Chelsea says:

    I believe that the SD should send the first allowence first that way i would know that he’s legit. Im very scared that i will scammed. So i wont do anything till i know its all legit.


    Wow! I am starting to feel somewhat discouraged. However, the comments on this blog and the “Who should make the first move” have been extremely helpful. I am usually pretty keen and good at reading people. Thanks for making me aware! ;0)

  220. Jazz says:

    I was leaving from Ohio and driving to New York city to meet my first SD I had checked 3 times with him about the funding for driving. He explained he would send me the first half before I left and give me the second half when it was time to leave. I got the first half and left the next day. I met him at the hotel and we chatted and he seemed to have interest in me. He left a few hours later and never called back or came around again. I had to scrimp the money left together and attempt driving home. The hotel wouldn’t get ahold of him for me either. It was horrible and luckily I pulled in my driveway the next day. I only had 6 dollars left and wouldn’t have got much farther. I also left my phone charger in the room and called the hotel. He took it with him when he left the room at checkout!

  221. SBMapleLeafs says:

    Hello everyone,

    Just wanted to tell my sad story. I have met a guy few days after I upload my profile on this website. Everything went well, except the arrangement part off course. I was new, shy and too embarassed to bring up any money questions, and I needed financial assistance badly though. He on the other hand had SB before, but she decided to end their 1 year relationships because she find a real boyfriend. SD was very pissed off with it ,I guess, from his words he invested so much money into her, and she left him for regular guy.

    But we really liked eahc other and got intimate at some point. I have got nothing off course. Not even a shopping trip, only huge huge big dissapointment. Another problem is what this SD refused to admit what he dumped me, he made it sound like he is still ineteresting in me and everything, just never have a time to see me. So I waisted 2 months while waiting for him. I feel so used now.:(

  222. LOL_A says:

    To all sugarbabies
    I was just wondering… Don’t you think that lots of men use seekinga. with no intention at all to be a “sugar daddy”?
    I have had much dates with potential sg, and when it comes to financial assistance it is NO. Then why suscribing to a web site where the type of relationship is so upfront, targeted? Especially with the sister sites “seekingm.”, for meaningful relationships and “seekingf.” ,for sexual relationships.

  223. LOL_A says:

    Hello Carmen,

    Great idea. I will try it.

    Thank you

  224. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Hi Carmen.
    Great advice about this trial period.
    I’ll remember it.

  225. Carmen*262922* says:

    I think what a lot of inexperienced Sd’s don’t get is that they are essentially “hiring” an SB. Sort of like “Rent-A-Girlfriend.” lol….all the pleasures of having a beautiful, adoring, sexually accommodating girlfriend without all the usual commitments and headaches of traditional dating.

    They are paying us to be available and attentive to them. They are paying us to be discreet. They are paying us to go home when they need their space. And most of all, they are paying us because they care about us as people and want to see us live a less stressful life.

    To my mind, that’s why certain men chose to have an ongoing relationship with an SB as opposed to just calling an escort service. It’s more like having a real romantic relationship where two people really care for one another and there is real desire and chemistry.

    But it’s always a bit awkward in the beginning when you’re both unsure and trying to establish trust. In my experience, what has worked out well is starting out with a “2 week trial period” with each other.

    That way, the SD doesn’t have to pony up a full month’s allowance before he really knows the girl, and the 2 week trial gives both parties time to take it slow, get to know each other, and decide if they want to continue with a monthly arrangement. Reduces risk on both sides.

    Every arrangement I’ve had started with a 2 week trial, and it works out great for both of us. The guys feel much more comfortable with a smaller financial investment while they get to know you, IMHE.

    • Anonymous says:

      As a newb SA, I think at first it’s like being a kid in a candy store. Why follow through or seek another date when you get sex the first date with s woman a 1/4 your age and oh btw, 4 more responded to you. But if you are a man, and really want an SB, after that initial period…the man is the one suggesting the non-sexual dates, as he just wants a cool SB to add enrich his life not prostitutes. After all they are easier and cheaper on BP. It’s too bad it takes 5 or 6 SB to reach this point. But you girls aren’t innocent either! My two cents. The worse though, are the single moms, not the college girls, it rips out my heart to see so many single moms on the site…but, ya I still f’d them, so I guess I’m not that torn apart.

  226. Uberlicious says:

    kacee – i guess it is normal. just pick and choose which ones strike u as interesting enough to give ur time and effort to. :)

  227. Kacee says:

    so it is normal to get 25 messages in a day from all different SDs wanting to get to know you/meet you?? its kind of stressful to be honest

  228. Uberlicious says:

    well, just yesterday, i received a message from this Norcal SD saying he is genuine and even gave me his e mail address. Even said he’d send me pics if i were interested. He’s 35 and in San Fran Cali area. Well, he then said (right off the bat in the first e-mail) that he would fly me to cali and put me up in a hotel for about a night or two. i responded with an excerpt from another blog asking to b e mailed the departure and return ticket so i could verify it and have the reservation, not the booking, in my name as i could verify that also and not b stuck or have something blow up in my face. well, he never replied, but did read my reply. i then sent him another e mail with and address of an e mail i had just made to have him send me pictures there. no show. so i new it was too good to b true. and i even told him he sounded a bit too good. heh, guess i was right, here it is this time of nite and still no reply. beware of anyone who sounds too good to be true, they prolly are. always be cautious and CYA. 😀

  229. London says:

    Have I been scammed? Yes.. big time. Just ask and I will tell….

    I have also was asked for sex in payment with a $100- check..WTF? He said “It’s hard out there”. What does that mean? Don’t lie about being a baller if you have nothing to offer. I told him he needed to call an escort service when he gets more money. Lame,

    Then I met a very nice guy who treats me amazing and realizes how important my time is. We have great conversation and we really get along. :)

  230. Kacee says:

    So…I am brand new to this site (I set up my profile last night), and I already have 20 some messages in my inbox from SDs wanting to meet me. I am happy about it but also a bit shocked/skeptical….is this common for others (i.e. instantly being swamped with interested SDs). If so, how should I go about picking and choosing the best matches for myself? Sorry if these questions seem vague/broad in their nature I’m just quite overwhelmed and want to start of on the right foot so to speak! Thanks!

  231. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    ok are we here or on the other blog i’m confused???/

  232. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    I know i go to LA every year to see friends , but here in Quebec it’s all in french

  233. lisa says:

    I remember when I went to Toronto many years ago everything was in English and French. In the Us almost everything is in Engish and Spanish.

  234. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    lisa ~ someone asked me if i could translate from french to english , and how much i would charge,,,, yeah i’ll do it for sure, it’s easy work, i’m fluent in both so…. and i won’t charge as much since i’m not a certified translator, but transcriptionist

  235. lisa says:

    The current question is who should be the first one to honor the agreement? sd or sb

  236. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    what??? i just posted the first comment on the next blog!!! 😉

  237. lisa says:

    Are you looking to be a translator?

  238. NitemareSD says:

    One of my posts got lost but I was basically saying I had encouraging feelings about helping an SB with her home mtg situation.

    What is the current question?

  239. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    i just googled it 25 cents a word not too bad!!!

  240. lisa says:

    translators I’m not sure and I guess it depends on the type of translating and stuff. There is alot of that in my area because of the large population of spanish speaking people. I haven’t met any translators personally though.

  241. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    hey theres a new topic!

  242. lisa says:

    I will do that when i talk to him. I keep asking him what he is looking for and he just says that he has been married for many years and it just looking for something for just him for a change.
    I am already having an affair, unfortunately he’s not a sd, been seeing him for 4 years so I don’t need another affair for just the sake of an affair, I need some spoiling ,lol

  243. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    he anyone knows how much translators make?

  244. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~ we need your imput here

  245. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SB/SD are like affairs , with more gifts lol
    you should bring the shopping and allowance up see what he has to say

  246. lisa says:

    I googled the town and there are no real shopping malls or anything just boring antiques, no upscale stores.

  247. lisa says:

    I also wonder if he isn’t looking for an affair rather than a sb/sd relationship as he spoke of meeting in this town and geting a nice hotel and going to dinner and gambling and all. He was looking to meet someone. No mention of shopping or an allowance so it sounds more like an affair to me. The traveling wouldn’t be spoiling either because it’s not a town that I have any desire to visit and I guess if I went there I’d have to take the greyhouond bus which does not fit into the sb thing

  248. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Lisa your SD is on the way don’t be discouraged
    if he doesn’t want to drive to see you just wait for the next one!
    hey the SDs on here all say i’m too far, too tall, too old, and not as cute as the younger ones!!! so mine will be here soon, we have to wait and see what happens right

  249. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    See to me an SD is a friend with benefits!!! i can be his confidant, his friend, his partner and lover, he can treat me nice and help me financially and mentor ship ( if that is even a word) to experience new things together and just have fun, nsa

  250. lisa says:

    I lost sd potential one I think because I gave him my opion on those who drive drunk. He had an accident and was dui and was in the hospitial. I told him I was glad that no innocent person was hurt. He has since disappeared. This is the guy that stood me up back in August so I didn’t expect much but I keep my options open.

    sd 2 is nice and we chatted on the phone last night. But he lives along way from me and expected me to drive 150 miles to a tourist town to meet him.This town is very small and except for the small touristy area, no airport or anything. Most people in my city drive there. I don’t have a car so driving in not an option. He said that would be a problem.

  251. lisa says:

    You’re thinking from the man’s standpoint Nitemare. I already have a great lover so sex is not what I am looking for primarily. This is a mutual beneficial site, the money factor is what motivates most women on here. If we just wanted a nice sweet guy with nsa attached and no money, there are plenty of other sites for that.
    Most men on here are not looking for a platonic relationship and most women are not looking for a “the best things in life are free” relationship lol

  252. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Lisa~ i got nothing, 3 guys mail me to talk, i send my mail and they don’t mail??? one did but never sent his photos, the other 2 say they will soon…
    yeah , i won’t hold my breath!

  253. lisa says:

    Any news on the sd front Beach_Girl? Nothing from either of my potentials. I talked to the second one but distance is the issue.

  254. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    NitemareSD~ woo i’d like both sex and money! it’s just been too long! I need an SD!

  255. NitemareSD says:

    I’d much rather agree to have sex with someone and later find no deposit in my account than put my money in someone’s account and not have sex with them. 😮

  256. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Hi Lisa~
    Hi NitemareSD

  257. lisa says:

    Sweatredhead where are you, get outa that pool and get into the room now

  258. lisa says:

    Hi Beach_Girl
    NitemareSd enters the room, the sbs follow, lol

  259. lisa says:

    Good evenine NitemareSD, ok lets scare up some more, we had a party here last night , lol

  260. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    hello Sugars!!!

  261. NitemareSD says:

    It kinda seems to me that the idiot already got what was deserved. 😮

    Meanwhile others continue to wait for SDs to prove it.

    The world is complex and the universe is not always providing though many believe it will.

  262. lisa says:

    NitemareSD channeling NitemareSD where are you
    OC where are you

    I’m calling a curfew, everyone needs to come home and get into blog

  263. lisa says:

    Hi raine yes you know so many one here think giving intimacy and emotional companionship is the same as giving money. It’s not and we sbs are at greater risk for being scammed. I man gives a woman a few hundred dollars, she bails, he is out a few hundred of the 10 mil he claims to have, a woman gives of her body, the guy bails, she is used and cannot get rid of that uneasy feeling. It’s kind of like asking a man if he would rather have some grab his wallet or rape him. I would think that most guys would rather part with a few dollars than be phsycially violated. I would think that if these sds are really as busy as they claim to be that theywouldn’t have time to meet that many sbs and risk losing alot of money.

  264. raine says:

    Hi, all.

    Lisa, I’ve stated so many versions of “the SD’s gotta prove it” I may risk spraining my thumbs doing it again. I’m new, so what do I know?

    My condolences, Gagirl; I wouldn’t wish that experience — or the others given thus far — on my IMAGINARY worst enemy! I need all the schooling I can get.

  265. lisa says:

    That’s why I think a sd should always make the first move in spoiling with either shopping or allowance as he has less to lose than the sd. Giving of oneself in risk of being used is much more serious than a rich man spending a few dollars and getting scammed.
    Most bloggers on here will disagree but I will not take the risk, you gotta prove it first.

  266. Gagirl says:

    haha well thank u….the idiot will get what he deserves I’m sure

  267. lisa says:

    Gagirl sorry to hear about your experience.
    I may never find a sd but I will never get involved intimately or have more than one meeting with a potential without first making sure he is legit, that is he will have to prove himself by producing a nice gift or a cash allowance. sorry I know alot of those on the blog disagree with me but a rich (sds are supposed to have plenty of money) sd only risks losing a little money which he can make up for in no time whereas when a sb gives herself to a potential in hopes that he is real and will keep up his part of the arrangement, and then he starts making excuses (I personally would dump him at the time of his first excuse) for not coming up with the goods whether it be gifts or money, the sb like any other time a woman is used and lied to, will be left with a really bad feeling that is harder to get rid of than the sd getting over losing a little money. Men actually have less to lose when they make the first step (in moderation) than a woman does as she gives of her emotions, body, etc whereas the man might lose a few hundred.

  268. lisa says:

    Gagirl sorry to hear about what happened to you. I posted a detailed note about how I feel about guys like that but the m od er a tors won’t post it.

  269. Gagirl says:

    I got scammed by a sd. He wasn’t married, and we spoke on the phone several times b4 meeting. He seemed cool and told me before we met about his previous sbs and how he leased cars for them and took them places. Ok whatever but then he tells me I’m funny and we agree on a monthly allowance…3k. We go to dinner the first meeting and he tells me to meet him at carrabas? He supposedly is a millionaire, so I found this od. Then he tells me he got a hotel room right next to carrabas so he wouldn’t have to drive drunk….bc everyone gets wasted at carrabas right? Well we had fun I guess and he hadagreed to give me some money to pay a bill that night. The next morning he says in next time and I’ll get u a gift too since next sat is valentines day. I text him and ask what my gift is and he texts me n says valentines day is a no go 3 days after he begged me to send lingerie pics and I did… And of course he loved the pics but not the gift part. I’m getting annoyed but decide to see him the following wknd expecting him to make up for ditching me and I wanted my present duh I’m a girl and like gifts. I’m expecting to meet at his place bc he’s single… Nope he says carrabas again and same hotel. I’m like WTF n he tells me he’s been robbed before by a sb. By now he knows me well enough to know I would never but I go bc he already got room couldn’t change it. Anyway no gift and then tells m he left his check card in the ATM last week and would put the money in my account…he didn’t…douche bag I actually thought we had a connection when he wasn’t scheming…now that I think about it, I never saw his car bc the hotel was walking distance..Well planned ass

  270. lisa says:

    Anyone out there??

  271. TOExec says:

    Thank you Nico, just let me know if you want to, I will!

  272. lisa says:

    Just read through some of the posts. Happy Birthday Jasmine. Let’s see where was I when I turned 23? Nov 1988, ok lets see, oh yes I was married and living with my husband. It was the day after the presidential election and I was happy with the results. My husband bought me a big cake but left me alone to go hang out with his friends as always. I can’t remember my presents though. I remember my 25th really well, I was eating a huge hoagie sandwhich and got really bad heartburn, couldn’t get off the floor (I was sitting on the floor watching tv) and I thought “o m g, i’m dying on my 25th birthday, lol)

  273. lisa says:

    Hi everyone, home from work, nails chipped and all.

    Tropicalbelle, that’s a nice story but that would never happen to me. I could never lose my daughter even for that dream though.

    Now i’m off the next couple days again with no sd to meet. Nothing from either sds potentials as of yet today. Gloomy but pleasant weather here today

  274. SweetEuropean*264271 says:

    Ooooh I didn’t realise it was NC who played matchmaker! How did that happen OC?!

  275. OCSugarBaby says:

    Raine-The topic is “Scam Confessions”. It felt good to let this one out and let it go forever. I am so glad my common sense prevailed and never let this person into my life. Caution is good, just remember that not all people are out to scam. It took that one good knock on my forehead to smarten up fast. LOL
    I have found someone who I can trust and know that we both are going to respect and jump for joy that we found one another! Thank you (cupid) NC Gent!!!!!

  276. raine says:

    Have fun, Jasmine! [Crobar?! Man, I envy you. :)]

  277. raine says:

    ^OC, I don’t believe you touched a nerve as much as stared it down. I understand as with all other things in life, there will be the usual ups and downs. On the same token, one can do everything right and still screw up. Got it.

    However, I take this VERY SERIOUSLY, and unlike the rest of you, I cannot afford missteps, much less outright failure.

  278. Jasmine says:

    Hey everyone,I’m going shopping for my bday event at crobar’s this saturday.talk to everyone later! Hugs&kisses! :)

  279. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    OC ~ It didn’t paint you in a bad light at all. Many of us don’t know what to expect, specially first time out. Fortunately there are good SD’s out there that make us feel like the bad experiences were worth the wait.

    Certainly makes us appreciate them more when we know what the other side of the coin is like 😉

  280. Jasmine says:

    Thank u everyone hugs&kisses everyone!!!

  281. OCSugarBaby says:

    Yes! I am glad that I had a bad experience too. It made me understand what a true SD/SB relationship can and should be like.
    I know that my story is one that could have painted me in a bad light, but if you know me it was told to show my trusting soul.
    Don’t be embarrassed to fumble, there are no true instructions except trust your gut and never move forward until you feel 100 percent comfortable. ~OC

  282. raine says:

    23…um, yeah, not my best year. Not trying to be a downer, just sayin’. 😐

  283. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Ha ha….ahhh….to be able to remember back that far. I would have to refer to the black and white photos *LOL*

  284. SuthrnExec says:

    Happy Birthday Jasmine!! That’s cool… I guess – I don’t even remember my 23rd birthday… :-(

  285. SuthrnExec says:

    Uh oh, now NC Gent is going to start thinking that I owe him! :-)

  286. raine says:

    OC, I just knew you wouldn’t disappoint! [Echoing Nico: WOW.] Thanks for the extra armor. 😉

  287. raine says:

    Happy birthday, Jasmine! *throws bucketful of sugared confetti, balloons* I hope you do get out of the house today, even if it’s only to the store to buy your own cake. :)

  288. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Hello Jasmine,
    In cyberspace anything is possible, so I will turn up at your doorstep, bringing you a bottle lof chilled birthday champagne and a box of chocolate, Godiva I learned that here.
    Also I will give you as a present a CD by my favourite flamenco cantaor (singer) whose name is Chocolate.
    Many happy returns of the day !
    Birthday hugs and kisses,

  289. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Awwwww ~ Happy Birthday Jasmine!! It is far too lovely of a day to be stuck indoors…specially considering it’s your birthday!!! Happy Birthday to you!!

    SE ~ good afternoon :)

    OC ~ WOW!!! What a story. But you’ve got the Knight in Shining Armour now 😀

  290. SweetEuropean*264271 says:

    Happy birthday Jasmine!!! *mwah*

  291. OCSugarBaby says:

    Perfect time for that OC (pre-Suthrn) SD story, or at least the best one.

    Ok, so my first pot SD was from another site and I met him prior to coming to SA. We met and had dinner three times (all in about a months time), NOTHING more! I was very green to sugar dating and wanted to take it slow. I also had some very large red flags come up with this person. I could not Google his company, he txt’d and called all hours of the night. He was a very nice but a bit lewd. He would boast that he wanted to pay a very healthy allowance (5k) plus a car and apartment, spa and shopping too. Flag, flag, flag! Then he wanted to show me a grand gesture of his financial generosity. He asked me what my secret wish was, meaning gift or car or whatever. (Kind of had to be privy to the whole conversation) But after about the 10th time he drilled me on this because I just told him I did not have one. I reluctantly told him about secretly saving to have my breasts done (not larger but perkier). My bad, never ever tell your secrets. First mistake, second one was allowing him to convince me that he will make it happen. I told him that I could continue saving and that he need not take care of it. To end the story he had me go as far as setting up the consult and told me he had called the surgeon to pay and book the date. My not believing that he really would, and never asked him further about it. Well you guessed it, never happened. He stated that he wanted to have a TEST drive first. Meaning, well you get it. He also started to send dirty txt msgs and it freaked me out. I never asked him to do any thing financial. I am such an idiot. I should have spotted his intentions sooner. I ran to Google and found the SA site. I typed in sugar daddy questions…
    I found the group on the blog and asked my question of how to trust my gut on this pot SD and NC Gent told me to run not walk away from the situation. I will never forget that wonderful day. I felt like I found a perfect place to learn and trust. Wow, I feel stupid even looking back at it all. ~OC

  292. Jasmine says:

    Hello everybody!! Today is my 23rd birthday!!! And for some reason I’m stuck in the house somehow….:)

  293. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    lol good luck hun~ xoxoxo

  294. Gail says:

    thank you…I feel better now:)
    Lisa…and when she is fixed…I will be up before you and make you coffee again:) Nico…I’ll also pour you a cup….I now need a shot of bacardi. For real…see you all later…after I take care of my SB laptop drama for the day………………

  295. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    I just yahooed u the link I hope your laptop gets better…

  296. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    *hugs* time for a new sugar friend to get you a new laptop

  297. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Feeling your pain and can only offer a *HUG*

  298. Gail says:

    Thank you Nico:) I was up with HP from 1:00pm-2:00am with HP…and then by accident spilled water on my keyboard while I was on the phone with them…that caused all my keys to freeze…I dried everything the best I could..and now since 7:00 this morning I have been trying to fix everything. The keys are now better…but its going to take alot of time..My cursor is out of control….Help…I still have to install the bug/virus thing….

  299. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Gail ~ I messaged the site and Kitty 😉

  300. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    OMG Gail!!! *HUGS* back up back up back up (what’s left anyway)!! I lost a hard drive once and had a couple days left on my warranty too but, not after losing everything :(

  301. Gail says:

    I am the saddest SB in the world today…I celebrated my labtops
    birthday. She got very ill last nite…She had to have mouth to mouth from the HP technicians. They had to do CPR to recessitate her…and moved around alot of stuff. She lost everything…oh all the memories. I am lost now…not organized…no yahoo..I have to revive her…and its taking so much time…I am tired…..I can’t even get to Sugarworld…help me Kitty!!!
    I can’t find my way there!!!! She is only 1 year old…good news still have three days left on warranty!!!

  302. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Hi to all chocaholics in sugarland,
    Got moderated because of some nice scam stories.
    Don’t know why.
    The first one was about a person that stood me up. Anyway I always have a plan B so I went into a Bierstube and made new friends for snowboarding and such. Later in the evening a girl in a Dirndle outfit taught me some jodeling. Another addition to my musical tastes.
    Nice story actually in a bit longer form. Don’t understand what is so offensive about it.
    The other story is about a man hater, really fiercely hating them all in her profile. SDs are generally accused of not brushing their teeth, clipping their nails and washing the crown jewels. It this person a scam or not ?! Lunatic ! Don’t understand what is so offensive about this story.
    Anyway, I have a great sense of humour and laugh loudly about the fact that I am not able to share such amazing incidents.
    The blog really swings and I enjoyed catching up.
    Have a great sunshiny day !

  303. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    *HUGS* TO you’re a gentleman 😉

  304. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    Sorry folks… a client walked in.
    Toexec: you are ready on the suite
    Beach_g: it’s a forum

  305. TOExec says:

    Will send you email when I get there.

  306. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Ok now that i have not done any work this morning,,,,, i need to finish typing this law document!!! i hate the law!
    TOExec~ let me know if you want to meet
    Kitty~ i’ll try and see how the other site works??? not sure how it does!
    talk to you all later sugars!

  307. TOExec says:

    yes, waiting for the mail, thank you!

  308. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    TOExec yes you wait til you get confirmed mail
    then you try and make it work lol i don’t know how the other site works!

  309. TOExec says:

    I did register, and waiting for the email from the administrators.

  310. TOExec says:

    what do i do with that link

  311. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Kitty i don’t know how it works!!!

  312. TOExec says:

    got it, will check it out

  313. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Woohoo…party in sugar world.

  314. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    NicO: I like the personal shopping more too.. I hate picking stuff out of racks upon racks…

  315. TOExec says:

    Nico, next time I’m in florida I will take you shopping…

  316. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    TOExec~ u got mail, but i forgot the link gonna send u another one lol

  317. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    can’t announce links here, it might break the blog 😛

  318. TOExec says:

    This is not good…. who cares, i am having some fun at least… am I right?

  319. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Alas TO ~ I am a pathetic shopper…LOL. I can pick out a look but when I get to the store I feel like a moron. I’ve actually saved my money and gone into a store (BCBG personal fav) and I will tell the girl this is my budget and I want/need your personalized attention. She’ll start pulling stuff off the racks and putting together ‘looks’ for me.

    If I got to the store on my own I MIGHT end up with a tank top, maybe a new pair of jeans (have moved on from 501’s though) and well, shoes always fit right and look good 😉

    Kitty ~ You’re my #1 FAN XOXO

  320. TOExec says:

    kitty, what is the link? I am new to this and as you can see I haven’t done any work this morning

  321. TOExec says:

    even if they didn’t need it they always said that someday will come that I will have a use for it… It’s truly amazing…

  322. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    Or better yet, BeachGirl, when u talk to TOExec, can u send him the sugarworld link pls? :)

  323. TOExec says:

    Nico, I do not think that was possible… all the ladies that I know shops and for anything…

  324. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    ToExec: whats ur email?

    NICO: you’re hot no matter what u wear… but honestly, I love a pair of jeans and white Tshirt look

  325. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    ~*Kitty*~I’m in????

  326. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    TOExec~ you know us MTL people know how to party!!! Your right, get someone else to take note! :)
    mail me we’ll do something
    i put my mail up there somewhere,

  327. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    BG: you’re in :)

  328. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    I think I was born without that gene *sigh*

    I am doing some side work for an attorney friend here in FL. He is a great shopper (and straight). He loves loves loves to shop and knows how to dress a lady. I indicated the first couple of checks (for work) that he gives me I want in the form of a shopping trip and he has to pick stuff out for me.

    If I didn’t have friends that loved me then I would still be dressing in 501 Levis and regular t-shirts from random vacation spots.

  329. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    I love this song
    Day N Nite by Kid Cudi…

    Beach Girl: It’s the need for perfection

  330. TOExec says:

    Or make sure someone take notes for me

  331. TOExec says:

    BG – Ok! I guess that will do, all I know is that I will be partying every evening, Can not go to Montreal and do nothing, right? who cares about the next day, I will stay way back and sleep!!!

  332. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Kitty~ i think we , Girls, have the shopping gene!

  333. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Nico~ lol i got it!!! took my a few minutes , i think i’m too blond this morning that or i need way more coffee
    TOExec~ that’s cool they have the John Lennon thing there!!! til june or something

  334. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    BG ~ e-mail personality. That is just the way you communicate. It’s a person’s personality translated into written form.

  335. TOExec says:

    yes at the Fairmont Queen Elizabeth I think

  336. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    CSB: oo I was hoping a miraculous 11pm or something like that….
    *sigh* a girl can only dream. I was born in Hong Kong and stores/malls close at midnight there!

  337. TOExec says:

    Oh, I forgot, i lost to him on poker…. that’s why

  338. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    TOExec~ i know long days , are you gonna be downtown?

  339. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    TO: I was brought up by a shopaholic

  340. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    9 pm on Saturdays Kitty.

  341. TOExec says:

    Beach_Girl, what’s even worse, my partner’s son doesn’t fly and why did I bother to go along with him for the drive, I do not know!

  342. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    lol CSB why would i leave you hanging???

  343. TOExec says:

    kitty, you’re a shopper…

  344. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Hey Beach_girl: Don’t leave me hanging if you meet with TOExec goes well on Sunday. :(

  345. TOExec says:

    I think, I try to avoid them but next week is not an option…. I just hate it…

  346. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    Yorkdale and Yorkville is definitely my fav. I haven’t checked out Vaughn Mills how late is it open???

  347. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Kitty: I love Vaughn Mills. I love the long hours. It works for someone like me that always decide last minute on Saturday night that I need a new outfit lol. Fav next to Yorkdale mall.

  348. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    TOExec~ lol doesn’t that always happen on business trips??? lol

  349. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    send me a note and I’ll give u the link

  350. ~*Kitty*~ says:


  351. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    ok the only thing i get is sugar world waterslides, lyrics and so forth

  352. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    CSB: have u checked out the kid-of-new mall by Wonderland? Vaughne Mills or something?

  353. TOExec says:

    Beach_Girl, sure, I know what I am about to do there is boring and long…

  354. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    i should check it out! thanks Kitty~

  355. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Guys that was my attempt at an April Fools joke. LOL one can only hope. Until then, I agree with Kitty. Gotta love Sugar World.

  356. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    TOExec~hey we should meet up….

  357. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    Beachgirl: yes it is :)

  358. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    i remember reading about it~ lol sorry i need more coffee!
    and names i just cant remember , faces i’m good with!

  359. SuthrnExec says:

    You guys have a great day – I need to turn full attention to matters on my desk – not that I particularly want to, but for some reason, clients are getting antsy! Later!

  360. TOExec says:

    Beach_Girl, I will be in your city this Sunday for a week long conference, sigh!

  361. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    CSB what is sugar harmony?
    ~*Kitty*~ sugar world??? is that a site?

  362. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    Beach_Girl: I think we’ve had this discussion before lol.. CSB is a Torontonian too :) we can have a Canuck Maple Syrup Sugar party :)

  363. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    O CSB: No worries!! your sunshine will definitely come.. it was gloomy here this morning and now it’s sunny and gorgeous. and the wind is blowing East, so wait 2 hrs and it’s be gorgeous!

  364. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    ~*Kitty*~ you are so close to me!!!! im in montreal!

  365. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Hmmm…. interesting… have you checked it out CSB?

  366. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    CSB: I disagree with you. I think Sugar World is much better 😉

  367. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Nico~ how do you get an e-mail personality???? i try and be myself
    i did get mail, they asked for my email so they would send their pics
    but i got nothing..

  368. ChocolateSnowBunny says:


    Gloomy day here, hope that brightens a few days.

  369. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    Beach_girl: Kitty’s in London, Ontario. I might have to go to Toronto this afternoon to head office.

  370. ChocolateSnowBunny says:

    Hello sugars.

    I had discovered a site that verifies all potential SD’s income and the background of all potential SBs. They immediately ban all women that ask for cash upfront. They cancel all accounts of men asking for sex or nude photos right away. There is a forum to share all good and bad experiences so that others could avoid the same misfortune. This is where all the REAL SBs and SDs are. It’s called Sugar Harmony. See you all there.

  371. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Ha ha BG and Villa ~ didn’t expect the Blizzard. Actually was a bit surprised by it. Flight getting in to Denver was 2 hours late and it started snowing that night. By the time I woke in the morning the city was covered in almost 2 feet of snow and the city all but shut down. *sigh* I actually have pictures of my plane (when I left Denver) of snow on it. The flight leaving Denver was delayed an hour because of snow too. Was fortunate to get out when I did though.

    I am happy with my humid, windy and slightly overcast weather today 😉

    Raine ~ you’ll have to open up a little….I don’t imagine an SD is going to push you to believe in him anymore than you’re going to push for him to believe in you. A certain amount of trust (to get you through the e-mail stages) should be a given. You have a great style of writing and a great e-mail personality (which can only reflect who you are in person). You may have to kiss a few frogs (not literally) but, if nothing else, it’s a lesson in patience 😉

  372. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Ktty ~ where you at?
    SE~ i wouldn’t mind a check lol… didn’t i agree with you at some point!!! lol

  373. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    Hello Raine, Villa, BG and LOL

    Good luck on ur date tomorrow NC and on Saturday, Nico
    It’s windy here, so maybe sugar keeps blowing pass me

  374. SuthrnExec says:

    NC, would you send a check to all those who are agreeing with me? Thanks!

  375. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Raine~ you really have to explain slang to me some times!!! the last night GADZOOKS lol , i am french and here we don’t have all the same slang! lol
    how are ya this morning?
    Hey VC
    Nico NC good luck on your dates!

  376. Kirstie x says:

    Jees, things on this update really quickly!!x Been busy with work and just refreshed to find hundereds more posts lol x

    Have to say that I find it a bit odd girls asking for money upfront… If a guy did that for me I would end up just feeling like an escort!x I prefer the idea of little gifts :-)x

    Suppose it may be different if you get close to someone, but still…

  377. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    morning to all ~~ true this is NOT a blizzard, so i won’t complain…

    nico and nc – good luck on your dates!!!! exciting! :)

  378. raine says:

    Hi, kitty, Beach_Girl and Villa.

    You all know how guarded I am — I wish these SDs luck in earning my trust and convincing me to hang up the armor.

  379. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Nice ~ blizzard !!!! lol why did u go to denver in a blizzard?

  380. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    LOL @ Kitty ~ well, the winds been blowing a lot down here as of late and still no sugar *sigh* I like kisses though too 😉

    My pot and I are meeting on Saturday eve and Sunday ~ very much looking forward to meeting my Renaissance man in person 😀

    BG ~ it’s actually pretty humid and slightly overcast this morning but, I must say, it is FAR from the BLIZZARD I was in last week in Denver.

  381. NC Gent says:

    hmmmmm I have a sugar date tomorrow evening… now where did I put that checkbook :) xoxoox

  382. raine says:

    Good luck, TO!

    LOL_A: first, hi and welcome. Now uh…where’s the amazement come in? You’re in the right place in giving your experience, but naming names is discouraged (prepare to get ‘pulled over’). I’ll let the more tenured sugars continue from here.

  383. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Hi Nico~ how is the wonderful weather over there? i wish i was visiting you :)

  384. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    Nico: I think NC sends checks in the form of air blown kisses.

  385. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Morning Villa, BG and LOL :)

  386. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Ha ha Kitty ~ you actually received the checks?? Mine MUST be lost in the mail. Maybe cuz I have a new address *sigh* Lovely Floridian postal service!

  387. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    We do have to be careful, people are not always what they seem to be!
    I’m very trusting , but this site has showed me that you can’t always trust people at their word

  388. NC Gent says:

    Check is in the mail, Kitty. Just ask Nico for a credit reference!

  389. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SE~ you are right Chemistry is so important!

  390. SuthrnExec says:

    We look forward to hearing of your successes TO!

    Morning LOL and Villa! LOL, yes, there are all kinds. So sorry about your experience. It is really important to get to know the individual and establishing trust before moving too far along. I think we all inherently want to trust people, but we have to be careful too.

  391. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    *hugs* NC :)

    TOExec – good luck to you… there are “normal” decent persons of both sexes on this site, many of whom you have already encountered on this blog!

  392. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    Nico: you are right, I did state that… though there are days when I watch “MTV Cribs”, I wish I had that 10K a month. *sighs*
    NC: errr…. nice to see that there was an upfront fee paid to Nico for 15K. I recall seeing your name in my accounts recievable ledger for 10K for quite some time now.

  393. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Morning Sugars!!!

  394. LOL_A says:


    Yes I have had two bad experiences with sg. The last one dragged me along for 2 months, promising me to help me. I went to see him, we have been intimate, then went back home, asked him about what he promised me and he broke up with me.
    I am really amazed because I am very clear about my expectations in my profile.
    I am just wondering why there isn’t a topic where both sg and sg share their bad experiences and actually name names. I think this web site could use a little dusting?
    Now I also have to say that I have also had a great sg. There are some great men out there, but also crooks so to speak

  395. NC Gent says:

    Hi there Villa — hugs!

  396. TOExec says:

    Fantastic! Thank you all! Well I guess I will do some searching right now and will post my experience. See you guys soon!

  397. SuthrnExec says:

    TO — ahh grasshopper, sit down while I explain….

    You really need to not connect the $$ with the worth of the individual – SBs have different needs, some are working full-time or part-time, some self-employed or have their own businesses, some are students, some are none of the above. The amount they list in their profile is arrived at by them by whatever reasoning they choose. Admittedly, some are a little unreasonable, as are some SDs in their expectations. STAY away (far away!) from the “you get what you pay for” idea. That leads to a dangerous concept that you don’t want to be associated with.

    The most important thing is to find someone with which you have great chemistry. Without the chemistry, this will not work for any length of time.

  398. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    Good morning….. it’s lightly snowing here… maybe I’m imagining things and it’s an april’s fools joke on us!!!!! :)

  399. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    TO: are u from Toronto?

  400. NC Gent says:

    Not a stupid question at all.. some base their figure on what they need, some based upon what they want, some are flexible on the amount because it may depend upon how often you want to see each other. It all comes down to what is comfortable and fair. I think OC-SB said it best…. the SB doesn’t want to be treated like an escort, and the SD doesn’t want to be treated like an ATM!

  401. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Well, amount negotiable (in my profile) means that I am open to discussion. I am not going to exclude myself from the possibilities of ‘more’ should my SD choose to be that generous and/or some SD’s prefer to show their attention/affection in different ways.

    Kitty has once indicated that she doesn’t want ‘more’ out of fear of becoming too dependent (sorry Kitty if I mis-stated).

    All in all, you have to go where you’re comfortable and, all the more reason to discuss this issue early on so both parties are on the same/similar pages in terms of their expectations.

  402. TOExec says:

    Again, I just want to thank you all for the help… I’m sure eventually I will get this…

  403. TOExec says:

    Last question and maybe a stupid one. Where do they come up with these numbers? I mean I am trying to wrap my head around it and someone that I think is great but asks for too little an others just ridiculous for what they want. I am well aware of the “you get what you pay for” so are the one’s asking for too little underestimating themselves? What about the open-amount negotiable? Can someone help me clear this thing? I am sorry but I just want to know if there is a way to understanding this thing.

  404. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Ha ha NC ~ I keep hearing, “The check is in the mail.” *winks*

    TOExec ~ I think your communication style is something you shouldn’t change. Personally, I prefer to upfront with the ‘arrangement’ side of things and get that out of the way (so to speak) so that I can enjoy getting to know the person.

  405. raine says:

    Yes, Suthrn, what you said.

    TO, we shall figure this thing out together. 😉

  406. SuthrnExec says:

    NC_Gent = The Great Negotiator!

  407. SuthrnExec says:

    TOExec, there are as many different nuances to the arrangement as there are people. I think SBs appreciate getting to the point as long as it is done in a genteel way.

  408. NC Gent says:

    I somehow feel like a great negotiator because I only paid Nico a $15k upfront fee :)

  409. TOExec says:

    Thank you SuthrnExec… I will make sure I pass everything in this blog first until I get a grip of this thing….

  410. TOExec says:

    Thank you all for the welcome, I did address the financial arrangement first hand and made sure the SB is in my city, no need to worry about going to a different city for nothing. I also offer to meet and discuss the arrange first and willing to pay for that meeting. I also did say that I am looking more of a business partnership than a relationship to start. Is that to blunt? Please let me know and thank you!

  411. raine says:

    Mornin’, sugar fans. Welcome, TOExec.

  412. SuthrnExec says:

    TO, to tag along with Nico’s post – the SBs who post here regularly are genuine SBs I assure you. They, along with us SDs can help you along – feel free to ask anything – we’ve pretty much seen/heard/experienced it all!

  413. TropicalBelle says:

    Hi SD and SB’s, most of you just waking to a brand new sugar day :))

    I’ve been lurking for a couple of months and feel I’ve almost become friends with some of the long time bloggers, without their knowledge. I’m an older SB…and no Henri we don’t talk about our ailments :) We do discuss the wonders of the little blue pill for the ailment some of our older lovers have though :)))
    I have a sweet older SD who has given me wonderful annual vacations for about 15 years but I’m now looking for someone to mentor me through this recession and have fun on a slightly more regular basis, without drama…a real ‘arrangement for mutual benefit’.

    Now to the topic:
    I actually have mostly had scammers and picture collectors contact me from the SD sites in the few months since I joined. Was not expecting a flood of emails as I am older and not living in north America (although I have lived in both Canada and the US and other countries). When I received my first scam attempt I thought of writing the blog but didn’t…. now it’s on topic I shall share.

    This guy emailed me in Feb with glowing praises. He had a paid profile with a photo and he was very interesting sounding and quite good looking. Supposedly 44 but pic looked older (most men I meet seem to put their age down on profiles). Profile said from Vermont (I love that state). He said he would delete his profile if I replied as I was for him. I thought that a little extreme but he seemed so nice I did reply. He then said in next email he was actually from the UK but now lived in West Africa where he “owns a charity business”. Next email he started asking would I come and join him there, where he now was “managing a charity business”. I’d asked about it and he said it helped orphans and the elderly. I was already suspicious and thought I’d soon get a request to send money for the orphans – HEY I’M A S/Babe! That 3rd email he gave me a phone number and said to call him; said his 10 year old daughter who lived with him (a son lived with ex in the UK) wanted desperately to talk to me but would be asleep due to time difference. (I didn’t like that) When I’d asked for more photos he’d sent pics of his supposed children (looked like portraits from school yearbooks).
    He had ignored offers to chat on messenger or skype so I asked for another photo of him, holding a white sheet of paper with date and my name on it. I explained that I just wanted to get a better feel for him while I considered his offer to come to (have you guessed it yet) Nigeria. His reply to photo request was that he was terribly insulted by me wanting proof of who he was. That was the last I heard.

    What a joke…if he was real he wouldn’t expect a SB to agree to come join his business in Africa without seeing more than one photo and talking online :))

    Now I’ve just had a guy email me on another SD site asking for my full name and address to fedex me a gift and flowers! I sweetly gave him the benefit of the doubt and replied that I’d prefer to chat a little first because I love to receive flowers and gifts but am not comfortable giving out my address in a first email and would prefer to chat a little first…no reply.

    Other than that I get guys who send me an email then never read my reply. And of course those who send emails asking for naked or sexy pics…some do send me their own sexy pics :))) That’s not terribly enticing at that stage guys!
    Anyway I’m attracted by height, smiling eyes, some obvious intelligence and respectful but playful charm.

    Well enough of the scammers.
    I lurk because I love to occasionally pop in a see who’s blogging what and love some of your entries and advice. But I get sad for one blogger…
    Lisa, Lisa, Lisa: I would love to see you escape your dreary life situation. Here’s a suggestion: write out the most dreamy SD situation you can imagine….hey let me do it for you:
    He would be about 45, handsome, initially he would offer to fly from wherever and come to your suburb and meet at a restaurant of your choice on the day/time of your choice. After a meal and conversation and laughter he would take you shopping at that fav mall you mention and buy that bag for you (real not fake) to prove himself. He would then offer an arrangement where he would take you out again twice a month at day/time you are off work until such time as you trust him, staying at a hotel when you’re comfortable and paying your taxis home, always with a hefty cash gift. Then when you’re comfortable he would offer you a lovely apartment (on the right side of the road), paid 6 months at a time in advance….nah let him buy it, cash, title in your name. Then he will offer you an allowance of $5-10,000/mth and to pay all your expenses as well as to take you on trips to London, Paris and the city starting with Ch that gets moderated :) In return you just have to drop your crappy job and train in something you’d love to do, tell your mother and daughter that your life is happy and you have a wonderful benefactor who adores you but has no desire to meet your family….they should live with it or not, their choice. It’s your life!
    We only have this one precious life so we have to dream of the stars to allow some sugary stardust will fall around us. You need to stop focussing on why pot SDs are not going to work out because they don’t fit into your present working/living situation. Instead focus on dreaming of how wonderful your life will be when the right SD comes along to help you build a whole new wonderful lifestyle.
    And BTW my longtime vacation SD is in IT and does not have a computer at his home. Doesn’t have a cell either so I can only contact him by work email or weekends on his landline…timing it right for his part of the world. But he travels the world and is full of sugar and great fun in another area too :)

    Well that’s my post…wishing all you wonderful blogging SDs and SBs the very sugary best…I shall retreat back to my “occasional lurker” mode :))))


  414. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    <~~~Lovin’ Nitemare this morning *hugs*

  415. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Morning NC ~ $50k??? Damn, I knew I shoulda asked for more *winks*

  416. SuthrnExec says:

    TOexec, in case you haven’t figured it out yet, Nitemare is our resident satirist.

  417. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    Good Morning TOExec. I assure you there are real SB’s out there and I feel your pain. Unfortunately it has become a process trying to discover who is (and is not) for real. We (the real SB’s) are here! Promise!

  418. SuthrnExec says:

    Nitemare, she only wants $50k from you?? I am getting ripped!! She wants me to send $100k!

  419. NC Gent says:

    Hi ToExec — welcome to the blog. That is not normal to ask for money right away. Most will want to see a picture and learn more about you. Some may ask for a small amount for a first meeting, but many won’t. And yes, there are a lot of real SBs on here. I have met some really nice people. Good luck in your search!

    Good morning Nico!

  420. SuthrnExec says:

    TO, welcome — that should not be “normal” but it happens often as the site has had in influx of new members in the last 45 days due to lots of publicity and there are some gold diggers lurking out there as well as some who just don’t quite get the concept. However, that should not be the response from a real SB. Having said that, there is a lot of frustration on the part of SBs due to many SDs not addressing the financial side of things until after a LOT of communication has taken place – or in some cases, the subject is never addressed by the SD and the SB has to bring up the subject. So just be aware of the frustrations from the SB side and that will help you address the issues as they arise.

  421. NitemareSD says:

    Well I’m totally on to that Lisa person who wants me to send $50,000 to Nigeria.

    Yes, TO, SBs need moeny right away. You should have signed up sooner. Shame on you for making them wait.

  422. TOExec says:

    Thank you!!! I guess I should stay away from those.

  423. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    TOExec: No, I don’t think that’s right. It’s normal as it’s a common scam, but it isn’t RIGHT that she is asking

    Suthrn:my plan is to not eat lunch.. we’ll see how well that goes

    Nico: morning Babe!!! It was so delicious… I didn’t eat breakfast so it was my breakfast

  424. TOExec says:

    Good morning to all, I am new to this site and wondering if the SB are for real? I tried emailing once and she mentioned about needing funds right away, is that normal?

  425. SuthrnExec says:

    Morning Nico – That’s why I don’t bring a lunch – I would eat it about 8 o’clock and THEN go out and eat lunch at noon. It wreaks havoc on my girlish figure… :-)

  426. ~Nico~213385~ says:

    LOL @ Kitty **I’ve done that before too ~ specially when it’s realllllllly good!!**

    Good Morning NC, SE and Kitty :)

  427. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    I brought a lunch to work today…. and I just ate it.. it’s 9:30am.

  428. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    That’s where I think dual personality comes into play. Psychologically speaking, these “scammers” can be in entrenched in their lie that they start to believe in it as themselves. But I doubt these little scammers for a couple hundred here and there are that involved in their work.

  429. ~*Kitty*~ says:

    One day…

  430. SuthrnExec says:

    I agree Kitty, but don’t you think that scam artists eventually show their true colors if you engage them long enough in conversation? I mean, if someone repeatedly posted on the blog who was a scammer, I think it would become apparent after a short time.

  431. NC Gent says:

    COme on down to visit me Kitty * wink *

    Hi Southern!

  432. ~*kitty*~ says:

    Suthrn: That’s the only thing I really like about this blog, you can have a much clearer image of the person by their posts vs just their profile. But then again, scam artists would lie on here as they would in PMs! Only even ore extravagant lies!

  433. SuthrnExec says:

    Going to get my coffee right now… STRONG with a touch of cream and sugar… :-)

  434. SuthrnExec says:

    Kitty, Kitty! I don’t think it is just limited to SDs – the scam artists know no boundaries – there are some crafty SDs as well as SBs. We need to squash them all…

  435. ~*kitty*~ says:

    Morning Suthrn got your coffee to start the day yet?

  436. ~*kitty*~ says:

    *waves* morning NC
    Can I buy you a plane ticket to come visit me?

  437. SuthrnExec says:

    Morning NC, Kirstie, Kittie, Nitemare and Lisa – NC, I’ve seen that one a lot. I used to get the same email about every three weeks from the same person.

  438. ~*kitty*~ says:

    The biggest scam are SDs who take up so much of your emotion/time/energy/effort and end up not being genuine SDs. We give them out time and emotion, and they play us for fools.

  439. NC Gent says:

    Good morning all — here for the morning a while, and then I head back out on the road. The main scam I get is the sob story… had my purse stolen, going to have my heat cut off, etc so please send me money right now, even though I just met you a few hours ago…. The other thing that has happened twice is that you purchase a plane ticket, and they decide to no-show or cancel… I don’t really think that is a scam, just annoying… and they don’t gain anything from it.

  440. Kirstie x says:

    Well not really lol, its like nearly 2pm here!x
    Had my first email from a SD today, hes coming to my area in a couple of weeks and wants to meet x
    I’ve not got a clue how to tell if hes gen though lol x

  441. ~*kitty*~ says:

    There’s a rain cloud hanging over our city today. How depressing.

  442. NitemareSD says:

    What a lousy day. No ants in the kitchen this morning and I’m stuck with the same old mothers with daughters routine.

  443. lisa says:

    Good morning everyone
    Gail it looks like I beat you this morning. Already having my coffee, getting ready to leave for work soon.
    Haven’t heard much about that worm thing doing anything yet.

  444. ZenSugar says:

    “Have I ever been scammed?”

    No, more like slightly annoyed. I know the sb’s that live in major cities can relate. I get a lot of men who visit one or two times a year and start emailing all the girls for dates. They love to pretend or offer to “spoil” for the weekend.
    Oy Vey!


  445. SweetEuropean*264271 says:

    Uberlicious, I managed to get my mum on the site!! It took alot of persuasion but she finally got a profile up. She’s so pretty and really interesting I thought she should make the most of it!! LOL

  446. HenriLouis*294522 says:

    Good morning to the chocaholic world,
    All the Sugar Babies were out in the sun having a nice chitchat on the blog.
    It must be spring or could it be because of April fool today ?
    Wonderful stories and comments on the subject “scam”.
    Hi Nightmare, I keep on laughing about the price of shares on virgins.
    Also the idea on the SD Safe Home Association is in itself worth considering. We have enough talent here on the subject and could really give a helping hand with advice. I’ll be prepared to do so over here.
    Gail loves stories that turn out well. Here is one. In any situation I am flexible, so when I was stood up I set in motion plan B.
    Entered to a Bierstube, and had a hilarious night singing and making new friends. One to come over for snowboarding and others for controlling crop damage by wild boar. Later in the evening a girl in Dirndle outfit taught me joddling. Now I am even more musical.
    Of course I sent the person who did not show up an enthusiastic e-card saying Thank You. Your absence created a great evening.
    And how about this one as an April Fool practical joke. The most hilarious scam (anyway in my opinion) is this pot SB that hates men fiercely. Profile says literally that I should “brush my teeth, clip my nails and wash my bullocks”. I suppose they will be scrutinized first before discussing the amount of sugar and so on.
    I really hope that you laugh now as heartily as I do.
    Life is like a comic strip to me.

  447. Jasmine says:

    Okey I think everybody went to sleep? Well good night everyone and sleep tight! :) hugs&kisses.

  448. Jasmine says:

    Aaa…..lisa is channeling me from the spirit world…how’s everybody 2nite?

  449. Uberlicious says:

    Nightmare, u r sick. LOL! it’s nothing like that. I just thought that she’d get some enjoyment out of getting some attention in her situation, if antything she could get a longterm one..maybe forget about my step-dad all together.

    Hey, nightmare, or anyone else out there, know of any good divorce attorneys that have passed the bar in Louisiana? it’d b pretty simple procedure, she wants him to pay, and he’s German! basically simple. :) ( for my mother, that is)

  450. raine says:

    Nitemare, I’ll leave that one alone *lol*. I’m off to bed myself; Uberlicious, stick around and get acquainted with the blog if you’re still up. Again, results may vary…nite, sugar fans, until the morrow…

  451. raine says:

    ^That’s right, SuzieQ. Nite, ladies; sugary dreams and all that good stuff.

  452. NitemareSD says:

    Wow a mother daughter thing. I haven’t seen that one offered yet. Please send more details.

  453. raine says:

    BG: ha! It’s not a disease, but one of many old-school slang words (like egad*, zounds and the like. *this one was initially deemed a curse word).

    Whether you yourself and/or moms decide to pursue this, Uberlicious, bear in mind that it is WORK (same as in civilian dating, online or otherwise). The more tenured SBs and SD can/will fill you in on occasion, whereas I’ll give you the same advice as I do the other fellow brand spankin’ newbies: sift through the blog archives as needed.

  454. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Ciao bella! I’m off to bed as well….in the pool at 6 a.m. tomorrow for swim workout. Gadzooks…haven’t heard that in ages!

    An expression of surprise mixed with a wee bit of shock…is that about right raine?

  455. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Ok sugars i’m off to bed , it’s late and i need my beauty rest since i’m too old, too tall, and too far lol
    hope you have a good night and i need to know what GADZOOKS mean?
    send me a mail
    talk to you all soon

  456. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Uberlicious ~ she should , you both could have fun and travel

  457. Uberlicious says:

    hi raine, yes this situation is quite unbelieveable. I’m actually trying to get my mother to get on this site, she’s been seperated for like 6 months and think she can get, if anything, some fun outta being here. :)

  458. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    raine what the f*** is GADZOOKS
    lol it sounds like a disease lol

  459. raine says:

    One word, BG: GADZOOKS.

    Again, can’t call it. Dang. 😐

  460. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    lol ahhh that is funny

  461. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Maybe it was “poor” Maybe I’m only supposed to say “rich” lol!

  462. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    lol it went thru lol

  463. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    raine ~ i put “pool party” and got moderated!

  464. raine says:

    Suzie, I wouldn’t even try to figure that out. There’s a quota to be met, apparently…

    Hi, Uberlicious; I presume your situation brought you into the sugar fold? Passing through?

  465. raine says:

    *lol, NitemareSD. You may have a point, but I did say “at least.” Again, I’ve started here and shall work my way up/out, as it were.

  466. Uberlicious says:

    add….my dad (step) messed up my mom’s car so she’s SOL too! He flattened all 4 tires and it won’t even start. I’m trying to get help to first get things here on the home front done. He also left her with all these unfinished renovations, and no one to help, guess he thought i wouldn’t quit my life and move back home to help eh? HA!

    I have no job as of yet, i live kinda out away from town. The only thing close is a storage place, coffee shop and 2 gas stations. Oh, and a nail place, but i’m not working in that, sorry. 😛

  467. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Sugars you got mail too!!! lol
    i’m not a member of a few other sites yay

  468. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Hmmm, wonder what I said? I’m in mo d eration purgatory

  469. raine says:

    BG, more mail.

  470. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    NitemareSD – lmao!!!

  471. NitemareSD says:

    Raine if what you are trying to get wet is your big toe, there is a chance you are on the wrong web site.

    But you never know.

  472. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    No way lol! I found there were loads of Canadians on that site too. Lots in my own backyard as well Maybe that one will work out better for you. You’ve got more mail.

  473. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SuzieQ~ you know what i’m searching there and their are lots of guys from MTL !!! and i know 3 of them!!!!

  474. NitemareSD says:

    The person I am helping at the moment is subprime and no way has credit/income to refi.

    Mtg mod or short sale or foreclosure look like the only options…with an Obama mod sounding vastly superior to all other possibilities (if only I knew what really might be the offer based on the financial data.) There is a lag of a few weeks between applying and getting response which is a tense time, esp with payments past due and all.

    I know lots of people will be offering services to help people through these processes, but $2,500 or more on the come with no certain result is hard to put up for these people and risks further downside if the fee is wasted.

    I will send sugarbabytoday an email.

  475. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    YAY i got mail!!! lol

  476. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    BG – you’ve got mail :)

  477. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SuzieQ~ i think married is better… my opinion, god i’m curious to know who he is!!! is he tall? short? where does he live? lol

  478. raine says:

    Nite, Sugarbabytoday, and good luck with the self-imposed ban, lol. :)

    Gail, funny you mentioned diversifying because I strongly considered that; maybe the stress won’t be as palpable! I was just trying to get my big toe wet here, not overly concerned with producing quick results (yah, I know: very unlikely). Again, it’s officially become a JOB at this point. Between that and the “don’t let this happen to you” segments, I just shut down…

  479. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    My pot is married too. Funny, not long ago I would have had a whole different outlook on that (as in…no way!) After giving it some real thought, I’ve decided that’s ok with me. Perhaps even preferable. But everyone has to make their own decision.

  480. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    BG I joined a paid site for one month. It was only 20 bucks so I figured what the heck. I always hear you get more quality people on the sites that are paid. This one doesn’t lock you in and keep charging, you only pay for one month at a time so I thought I’d give it a try. You still have to wade through a lot of profiles, but if they’re paying I figure they’re more serious, and if they know I’m paying I figure they may think the same of me. I still talked with some fakes and losers, but had many more responses, initial contacts, and in the end, a better result. Worth a try.

  481. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SuzieQ~ ok one guy is interested here but he’s married !!! sorry i forgot he was from MTL

  482. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Sugarbabytoday & Gail
    Good night Sugars!

  483. Gail says:

    It was nice talking to everyone tonite. I have to get ready for work tommorrow…I plan to be up before Lisa…she will want hot coffee when she wakes up:)

    Sweet SD/SB dreams to everyone!!!

  484. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Gail~what other sites??? i have tried but they all ask for you to pay, and i’m not gonna pay!

  485. Sugarbabytoday says:

    oh well good night to all!!!! I must go to sleep since I burnt up my cleaning time on here… oh well I have tomorrow I guess… I will just have to ban myself from the blog so I will be back on in a few days lol

  486. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Right you are Gail….I found my pot sd on another site actually. Haven’t had much luck on this one…yet. I’m sure if I stayed at it long enough I would. I think it’s equal parts persistence, luck and being in the right place at the right time.

  487. Sugarbabytoday says:

    yes the newest refi of 105% is only for the fannie

  488. Sugarbabytoday says:

    Nightmare email me I will get details on the newest refi they released I am working on getting the details as I type and will let you know… I have several mortgage brokers and loan officers I still have contact with that give me the skinny on it all

  489. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SuzieQ~ i have mailed them all the ones from here so…. don’t worry they aren’t interested llol

  490. Gail says:

    Raine-Yes…poof them away…they are a waste of time!!! and donot let the losers get you down. Have you diversified yet? LOL….You can’t put all your eggs in one basket. There is more than one website out there :)

  491. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    guys here are not interested i’m too close!! lol

  492. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SuzieQ~ well you are meeting in a week or so right? so hopefully it will all be gone by then lol
    i know you guys had a lot of snow this year, hey i might go to the Olympics next year…. i hope i can !

  493. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Hands off Beach Girl! LOL!!

  494. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Snow? Uh oh! We’ve had a real wintery winter here on the coast and frankly I’ve had enough snow! Hopefully a chinook will blow through and it’ll be Spring while we’re there.

  495. VillaCypris *276489* says:

    hey all…
    nitemare and sugarbabytoday… funny you should mention load mods… i’m helping a client set up a business to do just that…. lots of interesting developments!

  496. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SuzieQ~ is he from Montreal????

  497. Sugarbabytoday says:

    haha well every i am seriously off for the night as it is 11:30 and I have to be at work at 8 ugh… talk to you all again soon raine good luck don’t get burnt out I know how it is I am in the same boat just laugh at those that are superficial I am not a thin model and I have learned to just laugh when I am brushed off because I know and have been told I am a great catch

  498. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Gail, BG, I will pass along any tall men I run into! I’m 5’6″ and I prefer men 5’9″ to 5’11″…makes a nice snuggy fit for a hug :) Or for dancing :) I LOVE dancing :)

  499. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Gail~ i could do that or the guy from the Lakers!!! wooo
    SuzieQ~ i love Calgary, it’s beautiful, and snowy ??? i think they had snow yesterday oh no~

  500. NitemareSD says:

    That’s the refi for people with prime Fannie/Ginnie mtgs, right?

    Then there’s the mod program for people with other mtgs where the govt agrees to subsidize some of the loss to the lender if the lender reduces int rates, princ, increases term…

  501. raine says:

    Gail, thank you. I just feel terrible I’m in this mind state, because I’m greener than grass! I had all these game plans and whatnot (even considered contacting ALL my favorites in one fell swoop). I’m all, “what outfit(s)/makeup should I wear for the profile pics? How do I subliminally steer this one towards me, knowing dang well he wanted somebody slim as indicated in his profile? Will those who respond write me back like they have some sense? I WISH

    Hence, burnout.

  502. Gail says:

    You need a basketball player SD…lol…
    I love tall men….I am 5’1″…and my past fellas were 6’2″….How about Michal Jordan?

  503. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Multitasking update:
    Newsletter sent
    Left msg with bookkeeper
    Working on choreography notes now…

    I may actually get everything checked off my to do list for today….wow!!!

  504. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    BG – Calgary is the destination

  505. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SuzieQ~ wow that is awesome, i’m so happy for you
    yeah i’m meeting one SB this weekend she has a SD meeting here, so we gonna have lunch

  506. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Gail~ i like tall men, i guess i am too picky! i got moderated!!!! lol

  507. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    BG – not that close sorry! Still a province or two away. And we’re meeting at a halfway point anyway so I won’t be close to you at all, at least not this time. If it goes well I may be in your neck of the woods at some point though and would love to meet up.

  508. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    he;s not on here anymore he found someone i think , though he doesn’t talk about it!
    we talk about everything else though
    where you meeting?

  509. Gail says:

    Beachgirl-I actually stopped looking for specific requirements in a SD…and every opportunity I got to meet with a potential..I took a chance, as long as he was respectful and kind. I am in for fun, and just trying to enjoy my life. I have found that once you get to know the individual after talking to him for awhile, a friendship can develop. I have more SD friends that wine, dine,pamper, and take me places I could never afford. It doesnot require that you sleep with them….I know :)…lol…but it would be nice one day….

  510. Sugarbabytoday says:

    Nightmare what questions do you have about the mtg mod/refi the gvt was suppose to release details on a new refi program monday for current home owners which would allow refi up to 105% of market value no matter their credit score. I used to work in the title insurance industry thus the reason I am on here now I got laid off :(

  511. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    I have no idea, I think I am beginning to get addicted again LMAO. I am off for real now. LMAO NIGHT for the last time….really lol

  512. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Hey BG, which guy is that? If you’re too far away maybe I should be talking to him lol! After all, my pot is still just a pot for now.

  513. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SuzieQ~ where???? maybe it’s close to me, we could meet up!
    sweetredhead~ did you get the AVG anti virus??? it’s free online

    How come you girls get all the Canadian guys????

  514. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    SweetRed, what are you doing still up? LOL!

  515. NitemareSD says:

    Alls I’m sayin’ for now is I’m helping an SB go through a mtg mod process – though I don’t know what the he ll I’m doing – does any one know how this stuff actually works? By the time it gets figured out there will be some new program/rule? I don’t know.

    Will the lender actually participate?

    There must be lots of SB members who could benefit from a mtg mod. Maybe that should be a special SD service we offer. We can start the SD Safe Home Assoc.

  516. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SuzieQ~ i wish my guy from BC would like to be my SD he’s so awesome!
    oh maybe it’s the same guy!

  517. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Nope, not BC…a bit farther away, actually closer to you. But heck, he’s flying me out and I haven’t had the chance to travel in quite a few years so I’m looking forward to it.

  518. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    I got a message from a Canadian guy today too.

  519. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SuzieQ~ cool from BC! that is awesome news for you

  520. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    BG – nope, haven’t heard from any of the guys you found me :( Thanks anyway, that was a fun night! This one is Canadian.

  521. Sugarbabytoday says:

    I am only about 3 hours away RED I am there lol I am in the cocoa beach area

  522. Sugarbabytoday says:

    night every one… seems like a good time to bail I hope every one has a good hump day

  523. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    I am in the Tampa bay area let me know when your in the area and we will plan something :)

  524. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SuzieQ~ so you didn’t say is it the guy from vegas????

  525. Sugarbabytoday says:

    good night red I will be following very soon

  526. lisa says:

    Lets fill sweetredheads pool with jello, lol

    I gotta go now too. gotta work tomorrow, get up at 6 am. Off again on thurs and fri though

    Good night

  527. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    Nite SweetRed!

    • racegirl says:

      What about a guy who says he owns racetracks? Sends these old outdated photos. Offers huge allowance but always wants to meet on weekend but will have accountant take care of money on monday. So i suggest take care with accountant first and let risk be yours and not mine. Oh no, he can’t do that. Then i suggest meet on weekday so accountant at work. Oh no, he can’t do that. Then gives spill about savings account or a prepay and i have all those but off the topic. The real kicker is he sill not meet in public first and wants you to come to a travelodge because he says thats where most his contractors stay and he is meeting with them. Well that is creepy so i go back ti meeting in public etc but then he sayshe flew i to private airport and had to take a cab. I said whats that matter? Take it out of allowance? Or if you really fueled a plane who cares about a cab fare. Then he gets defensive. I finally said witch is more far fetched that you are begging me to help me and be my sugardaddy or murder and rape me or take advantage of me? Think! Someone really willing would either take risk first and be ought a little money ir say screw it and help someone else. He says his name is kevin but i doubt that is true. Also, when i played along at first to the creepiness he was saying something about coming in a side access door at travelodge off i4??? Oh so no witness in lobby sees you? Be smart people.

  528. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead~ AVG is free online get it tonight!

  529. raine says:

    Ladies, we’ll snag our true SDs soon enough, but I myself need to do some time on the bench. Now I’m starting to look at these men funny. *HE’D BETTER BE LEGIT; I’M NOT WASTING ONE NANOSECOND ON FOOLISHNESS!! I WISH HE WOULD…*

    Vegas? Uh, yeah…I’ll pass. 😐

  530. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    Ok REALLY going to be now lmao. Good night everyone.

  531. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead~ i’m so in! where and when ? is the question now!

  532. Sugarbabytoday says:

    sounds like a plan… where do you live red?

  533. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Gail~ it’s hard , i live in canada, montreal and no one want to come here or me to go there, the guys here don’t want me coz i’m too close to home???? so… what am i supposed to do? also they are all short! i’m 6’1″ in heels i can’t have a short guy i don’t like that!

  534. SuzieQ*297329* says:

    I love my antique Mac….no virus worries ever!

  535. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    Oh ok, come on over. We will just get the Sd’s to pay for the damage lmao

  536. lisa says:

    well , keeping off politics, I didn’t vote for him and expect nothing out of him.
    Ants in your house, I remember when I was a child and we didn’t have a fridge for awhile and we had a block of velveeta cheese and we had an ant problem. I can still still that cheese covered with ants, lol that was like 1980

  537. Sugarbabytoday says:

    Lisa, when kids are involved you have to do what you have to do nothing wrong with going back to the parents house. Your children are and should always be first priority, no one can fault you for that and if they do they don’t have children

  538. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    ut oh I don’t have any virus protection :( guess I better pray!!

  539. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead~ shoot is that a no party ???? i need sun and fun!!! 😉

  540. Sugarbabytoday says:

    sounds like it could be a great (messy haha J/K) time there red haha

  541. Gail says:

    Raine and Sugarbabytoday….Both of you will meet somebody. It usually doesn’t happen overnite. I was on over a month and gave up….and then got determined to listen and learn. I just started a marketing project of e-mailing 5 SD a day for 3 days in a row each week. Each time my messages to them got better…lol…and finally someone sent me a message back. He said I lived too far away…hee, hee….don’t give up…I didn’t. And the best advice is have fun…don’t take things personal if they reject you…just move on….: )

  542. lisa says:

    I lived with my parents for financial reasons after my marriage ended ( I was about to have my daughter a month later) and lived with them many years. Financially secure, had alot of money in the bank but I couldn’t date or have anyone over. I didn’t have sex for over 10 years. I met a guy and began an affair and got kicked out if I didn’t give him up. I chose to move out.

  543. Sugarbabytoday says:

    lets not go there about Obama Nightmare, I am so on edge about that man right now.

  544. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    LMAO I want to keep my house nice. Can you imagine a pool party with a bunch of Sb’s and Sd’s talk about raising the roof lmao

  545. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    Have fun Sugarbabytoday and good night

  546. Sugarbabytoday says:

    Lisa just make sure to update your virus protection tonight you shouldn’t have any problems

  547. NitemareSD says:

    I’m a little concerned about the ants I’ve seen in the kitchen lately this early in the season.

    But it might help that SB get an Obama mortgage modification.

  548. Sugarbabytoday says:

    Oh well ladies and gents I must get going only wanted to stop in and make sure everyone was doing well. I have to get to cleaning and all my twin is moving back to Florida this weekend and I want to make sure my place is spotless when she arrives.. I am so excited

  549. lisa says:

    con fi cker is set to cause some kind of catastrophe on april 1 to computers that it has embeded in since november. It’s all over the news including Y a h o o news. I have all the updates and virus protection but am worried that it will mess up my new computer.

  550. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    sweetredhead ~ i want in!!! where? when? lol

  551. Sugarbabytoday says:

    Hi Gail. Thank god I don’t live at home while it would be nice financially would still suck something terrible, couldn’t bring a guy home. Why don’t you come over to my place? But make sure you don’t make a whole lot of noise you may wake up my folks. (no thank you) i rather drive nothing or a $500 car before I would live with them again

  552. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    SuzieQ~ is he in Vegas??? is it the guy i told you about?
    raine~ i get you, i told you i’m done!
    just gonna blog from now on, even gonna met a SB this sunday lol.,… she’s coming to town to meet an SD lol

  553. lisa says:

    Nitemare if I moved back with my parents I wouldn’t be going anywhere, my daughter would be spying on me, etc. I could never give up my freedom again even to buy a car. lol

  554. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    worm threat? Boy am i out of it.

  555. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    Pool Party at my house :) Clothing optional hehe

  556. lisa says:

    anyone worried about that worm threat tomorrow?

  557. raine says:

    I can’t bear to think about editing my profile anymore…yep, definite burnout.

  558. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    We all have our preferences, don’t ever take it personal. It’s their loss.

  559. NitemareSD says:

    Well (her) driving had something to do with my divorce. But its not that simple. Whatever that means?

    So if you girls move back in with your parents, how you slippin’ out at night in that fancy ride you bought to meet up with that boy?

  560. Gail says:

    Sweetred…its gonna get hot…and I am sure you will get thrown in willingly:)

    Suzie-I love traveling. I am tired of Vegas…I have gone 3 times already this year..my next trip will be Hawaii…I am planting my seeds with my SD friends for now. Have a great time!!!

    Hello Sugarbabytoday, Raine, and Beachgirl!!!

  561. Sugarbabytoday says:

    seems like every one in here is having great luck except Raine and I, whats up with that?

  562. Beach_Girl*306486 says:

    raine~ i totally get you , i give up! i’m so done with the “your too tall, too old, too far” bs that i’m getting! one of them asked me to marry him ,,, i talked to him twice???? what is he thinking?
    but again too tall. too old, too far!

  563. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    Wasn’t I going to bed? Now I know I am getting old, short term memory loss has set in.

  564. raine says:

    Night, sweetredhead.

    BG: I feel so ashamed right now: I’m already burned out yet haven’t made one contact! Overthinking does that, I guess. Glad to hear some good sugary luck has befallen some of you, though.

  565. sweetredhead *269443* says:

    NitemareSD you crack me up. Shoot from the hip, I like that lol.

  566. lisa says: